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- July 31, 2023
You Won't Believe Who She CHEATED With
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Length
51 minutes
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196.34041
Word Count
10,115
Sentence Count
1,169
Misogynist Sentences
120
Hate Speech Sentences
66
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Coming up next.
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So you've never cheated physically.
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Never cheated.
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Have you ever flirted with another guy?
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It depends what you mean by flirting.
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I'm quite flirtatious just because of some of the stuff that I do,
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but never with intent.
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You never wanted it to go anywhere?
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No.
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Did you have guy friends at all when you were in that relationship?
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Yeah, I still have a lot of guy friends.
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Okay.
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One of my best is over there.
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I've experienced someone being unfaithful to me,
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but we're not even together in the first place,
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so I don't think it counts as cheating.
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So how was he unfaithful if you weren't together?
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We were doing very official things.
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He's not establishing all the terms.
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The sex.
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You guys were having sex and then he...
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We didn't have a proper talk,
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but then I just energetically felt like
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he was with someone else.
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So then, I don't know.
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I don't know if it counts as cheating.
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What do you think?
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If you never really established something,
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but then you kind of...
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No, I don't think it counts.
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What about you?
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Have you cheated?
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Kind of.
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I think she's honest.
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I agree.
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That is a yes.
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I like...
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Who cheats more, men or women?
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So, obviously, the opening question has got to be,
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have you ever cheated?
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Starting here, go around, and then second row.
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I have never cheated.
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I have been cheated on once that I'm aware of.
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And how did you find out?
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Looking through his phone, actually.
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Okay.
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So, what apps did you go to?
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Literally just WhatsApp.
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And also, he had some dating apps as well,
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which were live and the conversations there.
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Was it your first time looking,
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or had you looked before?
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It was my first time looking.
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I already felt...
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It was the only time?
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Yeah, but I'd already felt there was something...
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I already felt there was something not quite right.
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That's why I looked.
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How long were you guys dating before you looked?
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Before I looked, probably about three years.
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You never looked in his phone once?
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No, because I trusted him until a point that I didn't,
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and then I was right.
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And what made you think he was cheating?
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Just, he changed the sort of mannerisms,
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the way we were together.
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Like, it was just different.
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Was he treating you better or worse?
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I was getting lots of presents,
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and he was very wealthy, so...
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So, win-win, maybe?
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I don't know.
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But it was weird.
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There was definitely things lacking,
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like emotionally and stuff.
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But, yeah, he was definitely different.
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And did you stay with him, or did you go?
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I stayed for a bit,
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because he was like,
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, da-da-da.
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And he was, like, all about, you know,
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making everything work and fixing it.
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And I was like, okay, I'll give you a chance.
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But I think, deep down, I was like,
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I can't, it doesn't, it's broken.
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The trust is broken.
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If he was making less money,
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would you have left quicker?
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Oh, my God.
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You're not getting terrible, man.
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That is terrible, man.
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I mean...
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I mean...
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I mean...
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You know you're the best, though.
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You know you're the best.
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You're all about honesty on this show.
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Probably, you know,
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because once it's broken, it's broken.
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I have a question, I have a question.
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If he was making more,
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would you have stayed longer?
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I mean...
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No, I think, no,
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there came a point where I was like,
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no, I'm done.
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You know what I mean?
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And, like, money...
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What was that point?
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No, no, because...
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Because I think when the trust is broken,
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the trust is broken.
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So, like, although I'm like,
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yeah, we can make it work.
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And he was really trying,
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like, really trying.
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I was just like,
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I can't get that.
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It's done.
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You know, once it...
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You're just like, I can't.
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And once that trust is broken,
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then I think it's really hard
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for a relationship to...
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Yeah, but I think because
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we spent so long together
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and we were good for so long
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and he was willing to own up to it
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and rectify it and blah, blah, blah.
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I was like, okay, let's try.
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But realistically,
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it's very rare that that works.
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So I have a question.
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If you were single the rest of your life,
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would you have wished
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you worked it out with him?
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Um, no,
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because he's not the one.
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The one?
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He's not the one.
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I don't believe in the one.
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I believe, I believe,
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I believe there is a one.
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And I think,
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I think when I was in love with him,
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I probably would have said that,
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but I'm not in love with him
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and that is way gone.
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That emotion,
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that emotional draw or tie.
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So I think, nah.
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So second question.
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So you've never cheated physically?
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Never cheated.
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Have you ever,
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have you ever flirted with another guy?
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It depends what you mean by flirting.
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I'm quite flirtatious.
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It's just because of some of the stuff
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that I do work that I do.
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But, um,
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but never with intent.
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So you never wanted it to go anywhere.
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Did you have guy friends at all
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when you were in that relationship?
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Yeah, I still have a lot of guy friends.
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Okay.
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One of my best is over there.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Um, what about,
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what about messages?
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Did you ever respond to messages
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from other guys?
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No, no messages.
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I shut it down.
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I'm very honest.
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Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up.
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Maybe light flirting some guy friends,
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but nothing physical.
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Nothing, no, yeah.
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I'm very fussy.
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I, I, I really,
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if I like someone,
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that's the only person
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I, I want to be with.
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And that's it.
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Okay.
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What about when women do cheat?
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Are they cheating to leave typically?
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Do you think?
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Oh,
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I think some women, uh, cheat.
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I think they kind of cheat
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for a one-upmanship
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rather than,
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so you did it,
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so I can do it.
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You know what I mean?
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Whereas, um,
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I think that there is an element
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that it's, you know,
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escapism and they,
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and they want out
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of what they're in,
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but I think it's that kind
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of one-upmanship.
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How do you know?
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How do you know?
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Well, just because I have,
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I have a lot of girlfriends,
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I have a lot of guy friends.
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I've never cheated,
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just being out of there.
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You've never cheated,
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but you know women
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who've cheated back.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Okay.
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And is that usually,
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does it work out for them?
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Very, very rare.
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Very rare.
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Very rare.
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Have you ever cheated?
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No.
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Okay.
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Have you ever been cheated on?
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No.
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Okay.
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Have you ever cheated?
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I've never cheated.
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Um, I've experienced
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someone being unfaithful to me,
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but we're not even together
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in the first place,
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so I don't think
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it counts as cheating.
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So you weren't,
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so how was he unfaithful
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if you weren't together?
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Um, I just,
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we were doing
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very official things.
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Nice.
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So it was just
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not establishing
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all the terms.
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The sex.
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You guys were having sex
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and then he...
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We was,
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we didn't have like
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a proper talk,
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but then I just
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energetically felt like
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he was with someone else.
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So then,
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I don't know.
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I don't know
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if it counts as cheating.
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What do you think?
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If,
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if you never really
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established something,
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but,
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but then you kind of have?
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No,
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I don't think it counts.
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I mean,
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do you guys,
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raise your hand.
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Does that count as cheating?
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I would say yeah.
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I think it says yeah.
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I'm on the,
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but on the edge.
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Oh,
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three.
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You think yes?
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Yeah.
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If you're,
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if you're not together,
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you think it counts as cheating?
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But what is together?
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Yeah.
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Boyfriend and girlfriend,
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like,
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like I'm saying.
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he was consistently asking me out
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to be official actually.
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I was kind of,
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you know,
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for me it's about action.
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So instead of saying,
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yes,
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I can be a girlfriend,
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I have to receive girlfriend treatments
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and,
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and see a consistency first.
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Okay.
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So,
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so he failed basically.
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Maybe,
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maybe he took it as a no
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and then was starting to move on.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Like if,
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like if you asked a guy
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to be your boyfriend
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or like if you,
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it's going somewhere
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and he says no,
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wouldn't you move on?
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I was taking my time to decide.
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Well,
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yeah,
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I mean,
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maybe he was doing the same thing.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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What about you?
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Have,
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have you cheated?
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Kind of.
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I think she's honest.
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I like that.
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I like that.
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Okay.
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How would you say kind of?
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Well,
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I was living with my boyfriend.
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I hope he's not watching.
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You don't realize.
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Someone's going to send to him.
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And it was like a work thing.
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It was proximity.
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It was just some kissing
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and a bit of a fumble
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in my lunch break.
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In your lunch break?
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Okay.
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I gotta,
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I gotta be honest.
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I gotta,
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I gotta,
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I gotta,
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wait,
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I gotta be honest.
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This is a yes.
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How is this a maybe?
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Kind of.
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It's a kind of,
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you know.
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I kind of cheated.
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It was like you're kissing.
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What if he only kissed another chick?
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Would that be cheating?
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Yes.
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I don't know.
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It didn't happen,
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so I don't know how I feel about it
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or felt about it.
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Okay.
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And did you tell him or no?
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No.
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Did he ever find out?
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He knows now.
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I mean,
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I'm assuming it didn't work out.
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No,
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but he's still one of my good friends.
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Okay.
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In your back pocket.
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Have you ever cheated?
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I have cheated.
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Yeah.
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I was bad.
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Tell me,
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I appreciate the honest,
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the men are much more likely to tell you,
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you know what I mean?
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I mean,
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I can't lie.
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I can't lie.
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Okay.
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So,
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so,
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um,
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how did you cheat?
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Ooh.
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Well,
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the first time she probably,
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she cheated on me.
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Then I just went nuts.
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Okay.
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So how did you find out she was cheating?
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Email.
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Email.
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I checked her email.
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She was emailing?
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I love fucking letters.
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Oh,
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I couldn't believe it.
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Not even Instagram.
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Email.
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Wow.
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Email.
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Who is she emailing?
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Very professional.
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I cannot.
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Who is she emailing?
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How did you get into her email?
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She's probably going to watch this,
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so I can't.
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How did you get into her email, though?
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Yeah.
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I knew her password.
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Ooh.
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That's okay.
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It's okay.
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It's all right.
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Be honest.
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Be honest.
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So,
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so you caught her emailing.
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Who was she emailing?
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Just some dude,
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like,
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on holiday.
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She,
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like,
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met him on holiday?
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Mm-hmm.
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And she was emailing.
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Yeah.
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And so how did you,
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who did you cheat with to get back?
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Ooh.
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Ooh.
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Not,
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not names,
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but,
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like,
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loads,
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loads.
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Oh,
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loads.
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Loads.
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Absolutely.
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Like,
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dating apps?
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Anyone personal,
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like,
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close to her?
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Ooh.
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No,
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no,
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no,
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no,
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no,
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no,
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no.
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But she knew them.
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Yeah,
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some of them.
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I'm not like that.
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Did she know?
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Yeah,
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Laura's seen a lot.
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Yeah.
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I've seen,
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I've seen a lot.
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Yeah,
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we used to work together.
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And what did you say when he was cheating?
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Did you support him?
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Were you like,
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she kind of deserves it,
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right?
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No,
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I like,
00:10:36.080
I like clean breaks.
00:10:37.340
I'm all about clean breaks.
00:10:38.600
That's true.
00:10:39.020
I should have clean breaked it.
00:10:39.880
Yeah,
00:10:40.240
but.
00:10:40.420
I didn't.
00:10:41.020
Fuck it.
00:10:41.580
Yeah,
00:10:41.860
he didn't.
00:10:42.340
He really didn't.
00:10:44.160
I did eventually.
00:10:45.320
Are you guys still?
00:10:46.180
Oh,
00:10:46.320
no,
00:10:46.440
we are friends.
00:10:47.240
Yeah,
00:10:47.440
we are friends.
00:10:48.140
And we're actually laughing about it over dinner the other week.
00:10:50.600
Yeah.
00:10:50.880
Yeah.
00:10:51.000
Okay.
00:10:51.300
Other months rather.
00:10:52.120
Yeah.
00:10:52.400
Would you ever get back with her or no?
00:10:54.660
Nah.
00:10:55.160
Nah.
00:10:56.280
Nah.
00:10:56.860
Too far gone.
00:10:57.860
Nah,
00:10:58.040
it's all good.
00:10:58.600
And how,
00:10:59.140
how did you hide it from her?
00:11:01.020
I didn't.
00:11:03.060
Brazen.
00:11:03.540
I actually didn't.
00:11:04.340
Like,
00:11:04.600
nah.
00:11:05.140
Oh,
00:11:05.440
you didn't hide it at all?
00:11:06.440
I just done it.
00:11:07.300
Like,
00:11:07.440
yeah.
00:11:07.560
I did what I did.
00:11:09.740
And did she leave when she,
00:11:11.220
I'm assuming.
00:11:11.320
No,
00:11:11.420
I left.
00:11:12.140
It was actually me.
00:11:13.260
I left.
00:11:13.800
Yeah,
00:11:13.920
yeah,
00:11:14.080
yeah.
00:11:14.320
Did she find out?
00:11:16.180
Mm,
00:11:16.600
mm,
00:11:16.780
mm.
00:11:17.100
Nah,
00:11:17.340
she thought I was this angel.
00:11:18.640
Like,
00:11:18.960
she's the best,
00:11:19.800
but she thought I was a proper angel.
00:11:21.720
Like,
00:11:21.800
yeah.
00:11:22.420
And when I was about to tell her over dinner,
00:11:24.400
like,
00:11:24.720
everything that happened,
00:11:25.780
like,
00:11:26.080
she was like,
00:11:26.700
Alps,
00:11:27.000
don't tell me,
00:11:27.500
don't tell me.
00:11:28.200
Like,
00:11:28.760
I look at you as a,
00:11:30.380
like,
00:11:30.620
as an angel.
00:11:31.340
So I was like,
00:11:31.900
all right,
00:11:32.160
find a way to tell you.
00:11:32.840
I'll tell everyone else and say anything.
00:11:35.040
So how many girls was it?
00:11:40.160
It was a lot.
00:11:40.920
Like 20,
00:11:41.640
20,
00:11:42.760
maybe.
00:11:43.140
Oh,
00:11:43.300
it's 20.
00:11:43.560
I thought you were going to say 50.
00:11:44.640
That's actually.
00:11:45.080
Oh,
00:11:45.200
no,
00:11:45.340
no,
00:11:45.460
no,
00:11:46.080
not 50.
00:11:46.900
Nah.
00:11:47.140
I don't tend then in it.
00:11:48.180
30.
00:11:48.920
Nah.
00:11:49.640
Nah.
00:11:50.440
Nah.
00:11:50.760
I was working in clubs at the time.
00:11:55.620
In your experience,
00:11:57.300
if a girl finds out about another,
00:11:59.060
if a girl finds out about other women,
00:12:01.820
does she stay or go typically?
00:12:03.400
It depends.
00:12:07.000
Stay.
00:12:07.620
Stay.
00:12:08.500
I don't know.
00:12:09.160
Maybe they stay for some reason.
00:12:10.740
Yeah.
00:12:10.940
Yeah.
00:12:11.400
They do.
00:12:11.880
I can vouch for that.
00:12:12.780
I can vouch for that.
00:12:14.460
Yeah.
00:12:14.720
Okay.
00:12:15.800
Okay.
00:12:17.000
Mr.
00:12:17.680
Tinder.
00:12:18.140
Can I,
00:12:18.420
can I ask you a question?
00:12:20.440
It depends on what else.
00:12:23.640
I want to know what you define cheating as first.
00:12:27.440
Like,
00:12:27.580
what is cheating to you?
00:12:29.220
We were.
00:12:29.780
Cause everyone sees cheating as a different thing.
00:12:32.060
So I want to know.
00:12:32.820
You're kind of ahead of me.
00:12:33.840
That was going to be my next question.
00:12:35.940
But let's for now make it physical,
00:12:37.840
physical cheating,
00:12:39.320
kissing,
00:12:40.100
any,
00:12:40.500
any kissing or further.
00:12:42.280
Yeah.
00:12:42.440
Is it,
00:12:42.920
what is it deceiving someone behind their back or is it doing it when they know about it?
00:12:47.620
Oh,
00:12:47.860
so she,
00:12:48.580
so she knew she was like,
00:12:49.640
I can't lock Mr.
00:12:50.600
Tinder down.
00:12:52.960
In that case,
00:12:53.820
no.
00:12:56.240
Okay.
00:12:56.660
So,
00:12:56.980
so you,
00:12:57.760
you've had like an open relationship type.
00:12:59.700
thing.
00:13:00.000
No,
00:13:00.200
not at all.
00:13:01.500
No,
00:13:02.040
I've had girlfriends and I've been single.
00:13:08.160
I need to understand.
00:13:10.220
Okay.
00:13:10.420
Okay.
00:13:10.780
So you've had a girlfriend.
00:13:12.380
I've had a few.
00:13:13.340
Yeah.
00:13:13.660
Okay.
00:13:14.460
And so to be honest with you,
00:13:17.000
like everyone sees cheating as a different thing.
00:13:19.120
So I'm trying to find out what cheating is to you.
00:13:21.640
Yeah.
00:13:21.860
So I need to say,
00:13:22.800
yeah.
00:13:22.980
So I'm something physical,
00:13:24.680
physical while you're with someone.
00:13:25.840
If they know about it,
00:13:26.880
then it's not cheating.
00:13:27.680
Yeah.
00:13:27.900
I would agree with you.
00:13:28.560
It's not cheating if they know about it.
00:13:30.360
But so my question is like,
00:13:32.300
so you did like a one-sided open relationship where it was like open on yours.
00:13:36.780
Yeah.
00:13:37.200
I could say that.
00:13:37.900
Yeah.
00:13:38.260
Yeah.
00:13:38.560
Yeah.
00:13:38.700
At first.
00:13:39.540
Yeah.
00:13:39.740
And I was a bit of a playboy to be fair.
00:13:41.800
Okay.
00:13:42.060
Yeah.
00:13:43.760
Yeah.
00:13:44.080
I was quite bad.
00:13:44.820
Used to party and stuff.
00:13:46.260
Drink a lot.
00:13:47.180
Used to.
00:13:48.180
Yeah.
00:13:48.740
I'm good now.
00:13:49.520
I'm really good now.
00:13:50.280
I'm a settled man and stuff like that.
00:13:52.280
Yeah.
00:13:53.360
But yeah,
00:13:53.860
I would say,
00:13:54.280
yeah.
00:13:54.660
Do you know what?
00:13:55.340
Most of my girlfriends cheated on me.
00:13:56.880
So I found that as a good excuse to cheat on them back.
00:13:59.800
Oh,
00:14:00.200
yeah.
00:14:01.000
I was quite good.
00:14:02.060
Like if I,
00:14:02.560
if I said I'm in a relationship with someone,
00:14:04.340
I'd be like,
00:14:04.960
right,
00:14:05.240
I'm in a relationship,
00:14:05.920
but then they'll cheat on me.
00:14:07.160
And I'm like,
00:14:07.660
right,
00:14:07.960
I'm going back to Stefan now.
00:14:09.460
And I told them about it as well.
00:14:12.760
But yeah.
00:14:13.800
Okay.
00:14:14.140
And it would be like girls to meet,
00:14:15.800
like my girlfriends were so sly about it as well,
00:14:17.840
but I'm quite clever.
00:14:19.200
So like,
00:14:19.560
what do you mean?
00:14:20.740
I'm intelligent.
00:14:21.960
Like when it comes to like dating,
00:14:23.460
I'm like super intelligent.
00:14:25.200
Hence where I got,
00:14:26.420
where I got right.
00:14:27.400
Okay.
00:14:27.860
I'm like,
00:14:28.260
I'm like,
00:14:28.640
I'm like the modern day hitch.
00:14:30.200
So I'm like a detective in love.
00:14:32.360
Do you know what I mean?
00:14:33.240
So yeah,
00:14:33.860
I found them like hard.
00:14:36.280
And they still deny it.
00:14:37.780
It's so funny.
00:14:38.540
How would you catch them cheating?
00:14:40.700
There's various things.
00:14:41.720
So like,
00:14:42.000
it's like,
00:14:42.940
so they would ask me questions.
00:14:44.240
The first,
00:14:44.560
the biggest one is I'll go out.
00:14:45.980
Obviously I'm a model.
00:14:47.380
So I'll go out.
00:14:48.860
I'm on TV as well.
00:14:50.260
So I'm going to take pictures of people in a club.
00:14:52.340
Why are you taking photos with them?
00:14:54.000
Right?
00:14:54.220
Well,
00:14:54.380
obviously if I go out,
00:14:55.600
someone's going to take a photo of me.
00:14:57.100
So I know if they're asking me that question,
00:14:58.920
I'm like,
00:14:59.300
I wait for them to go out.
00:15:00.700
And then I,
00:15:01.300
I'll go and tag photos and stuff and see them in photos.
00:15:03.860
I'm like,
00:15:04.360
why are you taking photos?
00:15:05.540
And why are you even asking me?
00:15:07.360
So that would be the first thing.
00:15:08.540
If someone asks you a direct question,
00:15:09.980
you have a direct answer,
00:15:11.000
but normally they don't.
00:15:12.920
So then I sort of like,
00:15:13.760
if you're asking me a question,
00:15:14.960
then what's the reason that you're answering?
00:15:16.680
Oh,
00:15:17.140
so you're saying they were projecting because they were,
00:15:19.140
they were cheating.
00:15:19.920
Like where have you been?
00:15:20.960
And you,
00:15:21.280
like you,
00:15:21.640
they clearly know where you've been.
00:15:22.900
So it's like,
00:15:23.540
when someone asks the whereabouts or what you,
00:15:25.880
why you're doing something,
00:15:26.820
it's normally because they're asking for themselves.
00:15:29.020
Oh yeah.
00:15:30.400
Can I have an example?
00:15:31.360
I'm sorry.
00:15:31.940
Can I have an example?
00:15:32.700
So,
00:15:33.020
so they would be cheating with the guys they took pictures with?
00:15:36.460
So for example,
00:15:37.240
they'd be like,
00:15:37.720
why are you,
00:15:39.740
why are you taking photos with someone?
00:15:42.420
That's normal.
00:15:43.700
So to me,
00:15:44.280
that's normal.
00:15:44.840
Right.
00:15:45.320
But then they would do it.
00:15:46.980
So I'm like,
00:15:47.380
if you find,
00:15:48.060
if that's a problem to you,
00:15:49.480
then they're doing something.
00:15:50.700
And you're doing it,
00:15:51.500
then you must be cheating on me.
00:15:53.060
And then I'd go in.
00:15:54.060
Do you know what I mean?
00:15:54.480
Like who are you texting?
00:15:56.840
Yeah.
00:15:57.640
Yeah.
00:15:58.200
Yeah.
00:15:58.420
Like who are you texting?
00:15:59.320
Like,
00:15:59.440
or like,
00:15:59.880
where's your phone?
00:16:00.660
Or do you know what I mean?
00:16:01.480
Like,
00:16:02.520
then you're doing,
00:16:03.300
you're hiding something.
00:16:04.200
So that's normally how I found out.
00:16:06.760
Yeah.
00:16:07.220
Cause I'm quite open in me.
00:16:08.420
I'm texting a girl,
00:16:09.580
mate.
00:16:09.740
I'll just say it.
00:16:10.460
Or if I'm taking a phone,
00:16:12.220
even if I've gone back off to an after party and there's five,
00:16:15.380
six girls in with my mates,
00:16:16.580
I'll say it.
00:16:17.260
And then they go out and the fact they've asked me and I've told them,
00:16:21.020
I'm like,
00:16:21.640
why are you doing it then?
00:16:22.820
So then you dig deep on her.
00:16:24.900
You know what I mean?
00:16:25.340
I ended up getting hurt,
00:16:26.360
but there you go.
00:16:27.160
That's me.
00:16:27.680
So how did you find out?
00:16:28.940
Did you message the guys that she was taking pictures with?
00:16:31.700
I've never,
00:16:32.000
I've never messaged.
00:16:33.260
Looked through her phone.
00:16:34.140
Like,
00:16:34.260
how'd you get friends?
00:16:34.900
You know what's funny?
00:16:35.780
Like,
00:16:36.040
because I've been in the limelight quite a while,
00:16:39.780
they start messaging me.
00:16:40.980
They start liking photos.
00:16:42.480
Like,
00:16:42.680
you see them connect.
00:16:44.020
Cause I do social media as well.
00:16:45.640
Like,
00:16:45.760
you just see the network happening.
00:16:47.680
So I,
00:16:48.300
and also if they've been out,
00:16:49.840
if an ex-girlfriend's been out on a night out or whatever,
00:16:52.800
like you can see who they've been with,
00:16:54.400
cause they start following them and stuff.
00:16:55.880
Do you know what I mean?
00:16:56.700
And like,
00:16:56.920
oh,
00:16:57.300
they're in Bournemouth.
00:16:58.600
Oh,
00:16:58.900
they're in,
00:16:59.280
they're in Mayfair.
00:17:00.140
And it all lines up.
00:17:01.140
And you're like,
00:17:01.520
oh,
00:17:01.700
okay.
00:17:01.920
And then you sort of watch it for one.
00:17:03.060
Like,
00:17:03.180
oh,
00:17:03.400
you're cheating on me.
00:17:04.860
So yeah,
00:17:05.120
that normally happens to me.
00:17:06.020
Have you ever been wrong?
00:17:06.920
Sorry.
00:17:07.480
Have you ever been wrong?
00:17:09.660
Assuming they have.
00:17:10.440
You know what?
00:17:10.740
Like I haven't,
00:17:11.740
I've always,
00:17:12.480
I've always known my whereabouts.
00:17:14.480
I've known they've been,
00:17:15.500
like if someone's been with someone,
00:17:16.740
they're not said they've been with them.
00:17:18.000
To me,
00:17:18.280
that's cheating,
00:17:19.020
whether it's physical or not.
00:17:20.540
Like if you ask someone a question,
00:17:21.900
it'd be like,
00:17:22.160
oh,
00:17:22.360
who was you with?
00:17:23.040
Was you with like,
00:17:24.080
so was you in four guys?
00:17:25.780
Did you go back to that house?
00:17:27.120
The fact they didn't say that to you,
00:17:28.400
cheating to me.
00:17:29.300
What's your definition of cheating?
00:17:31.580
Oh,
00:17:31.820
deceiving someone behind their back.
00:17:33.800
So does it have to be physical?
00:17:35.840
Not at all.
00:17:36.680
Not at all.
00:17:37.740
Just,
00:17:37.880
just,
00:17:38.160
just like,
00:17:38.860
yeah,
00:17:40.040
just like,
00:17:41.180
yeah.
00:17:41.500
By that logic,
00:17:42.580
if a girl lies about her body count,
00:17:44.360
is it cheating?
00:17:45.040
Cause she's deceiving you.
00:17:49.480
Yeah.
00:17:50.120
Yeah.
00:17:50.800
Pretty much.
00:17:51.780
I'm like,
00:17:52.120
well,
00:17:52.220
just be open.
00:17:52.940
Cause I go in at the beginning.
00:17:54.320
I'm like,
00:17:54.660
yeah,
00:17:54.800
I'll just go and they go 20.
00:17:56.820
And then you find out,
00:17:57.940
oh,
00:17:58.160
this you've,
00:17:58.820
you found out 20 when you,
00:18:00.200
in the space of a month.
00:18:01.420
So you're like,
00:18:02.680
where's that 20 come from then?
00:18:04.720
Is it 40?
00:18:06.000
And where's the other 20 on top?
00:18:07.780
So yeah.
00:18:08.580
I wouldn't even want to know that body count.
00:18:10.520
No,
00:18:10.820
I wouldn't know.
00:18:11.700
I like,
00:18:12.100
cause they ask you.
00:18:13.740
If they ask me,
00:18:14.660
I don't give it away.
00:18:15.240
And I'm honest about it.
00:18:16.000
It just makes me want to be dishonest.
00:18:17.700
But my thing with body count is,
00:18:19.520
how can you ever really know who's telling the truth?
00:18:22.220
Like you can't.
00:18:23.340
Yeah.
00:18:23.540
But if you say like 10 and you're 30 years old,
00:18:26.640
like you know something.
00:18:27.980
If I haven't started sleeping with people until I'm like 27,
00:18:30.780
28,
00:18:31.420
of course that number can be.
00:18:32.680
But what if you're with someone and you find that they've been with 12 people?
00:18:35.600
That's what I'm saying.
00:18:36.820
How do you,
00:18:37.520
you can't always find out.
00:18:39.000
You can tell just based on,
00:18:40.440
you can,
00:18:40.740
because the women,
00:18:41.360
the women that have slept with more people are more bitter because their life are,
00:18:44.500
I feel like that's quite a general thing to say.
00:18:46.800
But it depends.
00:18:47.680
I just agree on that.
00:18:48.640
I'm not saying it's 100%.
00:18:51.140
Yeah.
00:18:51.560
That's my point.
00:18:52.120
Women slip up.
00:18:52.720
It always comes out.
00:18:53.660
Yeah.
00:18:53.840
The thing is that two or four,
00:18:55.640
five,
00:18:56.000
10,
00:18:56.320
whatever.
00:18:56.700
But when you're like 50 off or a hundred,
00:18:58.860
then there's a problem.
00:18:59.500
But that's my point.
00:19:00.340
I don't think we can ever tell.
00:19:03.060
What?
00:19:03.260
50 or a hundred off?
00:19:04.220
No,
00:19:04.260
no,
00:19:04.300
no.
00:19:04.640
I'm saying everybody's body count.
00:19:06.460
So if I was to say right now that my body counts 10.
00:19:08.860
What is your body count?
00:19:09.720
There's no physical way.
00:19:10.480
What is your one?
00:19:11.200
There's no way.
00:19:12.480
You're going to say no way.
00:19:13.900
But you haven't answered my question.
00:19:15.460
You wouldn't be able to know if I'm lying or not.
00:19:18.020
If I've gone higher or if I've gone lower.
00:19:19.760
That's like,
00:19:20.600
there's no concrete.
00:19:21.060
I just think the truth comes out.
00:19:23.360
It comes out in the end.
00:19:24.760
It does.
00:19:25.620
I'm going to answer.
00:19:26.760
I'll give you an example.
00:19:28.040
Cause like I've had hundreds of women come on the show.
00:19:30.320
It's like one girl will say something on the podcast,
00:19:32.580
but eventually I hear about someone she slept with.
00:19:34.940
But again,
00:19:35.680
it's like people have reputations.
00:19:41.060
Like shit comes out about people.
00:19:43.340
I don't think it was that connected.
00:19:45.840
Oh yeah.
00:19:46.700
I don't think,
00:19:47.640
you know,
00:19:48.360
you know what?
00:19:49.000
You know what?
00:19:49.420
It's not the number.
00:19:50.000
Definitely you would be.
00:19:51.060
I'm surprised.
00:19:51.860
I'll get different show guests come on.
00:19:53.780
And then like,
00:19:54.240
like some guy will be like,
00:19:55.240
Oh,
00:19:55.340
I slept with that one.
00:19:56.120
That one.
00:19:56.460
That like,
00:19:56.820
it's like,
00:19:57.320
but he could be lying.
00:20:00.880
Exactly.
00:20:01.540
That's my point.
00:20:02.340
You can never ever.
00:20:03.440
Okay.
00:20:03.720
You're right.
00:20:04.100
He couldn't be lying.
00:20:05.180
You won't completely tell.
00:20:07.140
But then when it's like three guys have the same story,
00:20:09.260
you're like,
00:20:09.480
okay.
00:20:09.880
That's bias.
00:20:12.180
That's bias.
00:20:12.680
Oh my God.
00:20:13.440
Oh my God.
00:20:14.660
No,
00:20:15.120
no,
00:20:15.280
but you can tell guys cap too.
00:20:17.260
Guys cap about money.
00:20:19.360
That's the biggest thing.
00:20:20.160
Guys will be like,
00:20:20.700
Oh,
00:20:20.860
I have this company.
00:20:21.780
And we'll look it up.
00:20:22.260
It's dissolved.
00:20:24.460
It's interesting to say that because statistically,
00:20:29.340
men are,
00:20:30.300
men are,
00:20:31.780
men lie more about their body count than women.
00:20:35.200
Like they will not,
00:20:36.660
not just lie,
00:20:37.600
not just lie,
00:20:38.220
sorry,
00:20:38.540
this,
00:20:38.720
this,
00:20:38.960
not just lie,
00:20:40.080
but they,
00:20:40.580
they are the ones that notch it up.
00:20:42.920
So men,
00:20:43.700
yeah,
00:20:43.920
exaggerate.
00:20:44.540
Women.
00:20:45.200
Men exaggerate.
00:20:46.160
Yeah.
00:20:46.500
Men.
00:20:46.660
It's statistically.
00:20:47.480
I never exaggerate.
00:20:48.680
It's online.
00:20:49.000
You can look it up.
00:20:50.200
It's men.
00:20:50.820
Yeah.
00:20:50.880
Yeah.
00:20:51.120
Statistically men exaggerate.
00:20:52.280
No,
00:20:52.500
I don't think that.
00:20:52.900
So it's hard to know what body count you actually have.
00:20:56.200
Men will try and keep it.
00:20:57.140
No,
00:20:57.760
that's not true.
00:20:58.300
It's not my opinion.
00:20:59.060
That's not true.
00:21:00.960
That was written by a woman.
00:21:02.140
Let's just,
00:21:02.720
well,
00:21:03.380
there's,
00:21:03.620
there's two problems.
00:21:04.800
Okay.
00:21:05.040
One,
00:21:05.380
feminists have ruined like all data.
00:21:07.700
They infiltrated school.
00:21:08.880
Yeah.
00:21:09.040
They infiltrated schools in the 1970s and 80s,
00:21:12.040
but,
00:21:12.660
but I will say men do lie.
00:21:14.200
I would agree.
00:21:14.720
Men tend to lie up.
00:21:15.760
Women tend to lie down.
00:21:16.800
Because it makes sense in society.
00:21:18.440
But who,
00:21:18.800
who lies more men or women?
00:21:21.160
Oh,
00:21:21.560
no.
00:21:24.560
That's a tricky question.
00:21:27.380
It depends.
00:21:28.020
It depends on the circumstances.
00:21:29.440
Yeah.
00:21:29.960
Exactly.
00:21:30.520
We're both human.
00:21:31.440
We're both human.
00:21:32.340
I'm banning a word.
00:21:33.680
I'm banning a word.
00:21:34.360
There's no,
00:21:34.780
it depends.
00:21:35.980
There's no,
00:21:36.460
no,
00:21:36.600
no,
00:21:36.740
no,
00:21:36.860
there's no,
00:21:37.240
it depends.
00:21:37.940
You got to pick one side.
00:21:39.060
What about kinder?
00:21:39.940
What about kinder?
00:21:40.660
No,
00:21:40.960
no,
00:21:41.120
go on.
00:21:43.240
I think women lie more for sure.
00:21:46.360
Because they suffer more judgment.
00:21:48.500
Yeah.
00:21:49.360
I think women suffer more judgment from the guy.
00:21:52.020
And usually it's always the,
00:21:53.340
mostly the guys asking the girl,
00:21:55.500
her body counted the way around.
00:21:57.120
Yeah.
00:21:57.320
Because usually we presume that the guy is left with a lot of girls.
00:22:00.780
You're with the wrong guys.
00:22:01.500
Of course.
00:22:01.900
That's why I broke up with them.
00:22:05.780
But you need to understand something.
00:22:08.200
Men and women lie for different reasons.
00:22:09.860
So you cannot determine who's lying more.
00:22:11.660
Yeah.
00:22:12.120
So men lie about the money because guess what?
00:22:14.600
It works.
00:22:15.240
Yeah.
00:22:16.540
Yeah.
00:22:16.880
Yeah.
00:22:16.960
Yeah.
00:22:17.540
True.
00:22:18.280
There's no lies.
00:22:19.200
It's facts.
00:22:19.500
It's not nice,
00:22:20.880
but women like go with them because yeah.
00:22:22.880
We lie about the things that society finds important.
00:22:24.540
And women lie about their body count because it works.
00:22:27.380
Yeah.
00:22:28.000
Not to me.
00:22:28.800
It's so simple.
00:22:29.300
In all honesty,
00:22:30.460
I think women lie more because it's like,
00:22:32.160
we have the filters on Instagram.
00:22:33.920
We have the caked on makeup.
00:22:35.340
We have the BBLs.
00:22:36.680
But again,
00:22:37.260
men have the cards and they've got the clothes.
00:22:40.120
They've got the,
00:22:40.700
Men have the steroids.
00:22:41.960
Men have the...
00:22:42.660
I'll tell you,
00:22:43.500
I'll tell you.
00:22:44.040
I've just had so many people come on the show.
00:22:46.600
It's like so many girls come on.
00:22:48.160
They'll follow me on Instagram.
00:22:49.360
And I'm like,
00:22:49.700
who is that?
00:22:51.780
And they don't look like they're pictures.
00:22:53.480
Yeah,
00:22:53.760
that's true.
00:22:54.780
Men,
00:22:54.940
it's just not the same.
00:22:56.180
They don't do it as much.
00:22:57.040
They do lie about money.
00:22:58.340
I will say that.
00:22:59.520
Yeah.
00:22:59.800
Like,
00:23:00.180
but when it comes to looks,
00:23:02.820
come on,
00:23:03.180
women lie way more.
00:23:04.140
I mean,
00:23:04.480
I guess in a way,
00:23:05.980
yes,
00:23:06.420
it's just more socially acceptable with women.
00:23:08.780
However,
00:23:09.300
there are a lot of guys,
00:23:10.460
depending on the spectrum of guy that you're like talking to or dealing with,
00:23:14.740
they are very,
00:23:15.740
they are very physically orientated.
00:23:18.380
So they do go to the gym,
00:23:19.860
whatever it takes to get that buff body.
00:23:22.560
They do have like Botox.
00:23:24.720
No,
00:23:25.100
guys.
00:23:25.600
I'm saying guys do it too.
00:23:27.100
Botox for guys.
00:23:28.340
I don't think so.
00:23:29.260
Yes,
00:23:29.500
you'll be surprised.
00:23:31.200
What type of guys?
00:23:31.940
No way.
00:23:33.000
Going to the gym for a bum or muscles is good.
00:23:35.980
Like BBL.
00:23:37.020
But they do,
00:23:37.540
but they do added extras,
00:23:39.760
but it's so subtle and it's not spoken about because it's,
00:23:42.920
the focus is mainly on women because the beauty industry is funneled for women.
00:23:46.660
Do you genuinely think it's equally common?
00:23:48.880
It's not equally common,
00:23:49.860
but it is common.
00:23:51.020
Do you think it's close?
00:23:51.680
Like the amount of filters,
00:23:52.880
Botox,
00:23:53.540
it's close.
00:23:54.440
No,
00:23:54.520
I'll tell you something.
00:23:55.420
But for a man,
00:23:55.960
I think it's so much not.
00:23:58.100
Come on.
00:23:58.600
From personal experience,
00:24:00.240
a man,
00:24:00.720
all they want to do is have a hair transplant and they hit like 26 hair transplant.
00:24:05.000
That's enough for a man.
00:24:05.880
They don't feel comfortable talking about it,
00:24:07.840
but I do.
00:24:08.880
I love my hair now.
00:24:11.360
You have one step.
00:24:12.920
Have you ever cheated?
00:24:15.460
Before that,
00:24:16.540
I want to say something.
00:24:17.680
All self-reported data about cheating,
00:24:20.400
money or whatever we speak now are unreliable.
00:24:23.880
You two like social desirability bias.
00:24:26.980
That's it.
00:24:27.480
Yeah.
00:24:27.900
So we cannot really determine.
00:24:29.560
Yes,
00:24:29.880
I have cheated before and I have been cheated as well.
00:24:33.280
What's cheating to you then,
00:24:34.380
man?
00:24:34.640
What's cheating?
00:24:35.460
Well,
00:24:36.060
let's talk about the physical that we started now and then we will go farther.
00:24:40.780
So how did you cheat?
00:24:42.560
Like,
00:24:42.780
how did you meet women you wanted to cheat with?
00:24:44.360
Like I was young,
00:24:46.220
like 16,
00:24:46.960
17.
00:24:47.480
I was DJ.
00:24:48.940
I was in the club.
00:24:50.260
So every night and it was easy.
00:24:52.880
Okay.
00:24:53.300
So you would meet them in person.
00:24:54.780
Yes.
00:24:55.080
Did you ever cheat on dating apps?
00:24:56.540
I never had dating apps.
00:24:57.980
Okay.
00:24:58.240
Did she ever find out?
00:25:00.080
Yeah.
00:25:00.520
All the times.
00:25:03.220
She caught me many times as well.
00:25:05.740
Like red handed.
00:25:08.400
And what happened there,
00:25:09.760
man?
00:25:09.780
Did you get a kick from that?
00:25:10.740
Many times.
00:25:11.140
Did you get a kick from that?
00:25:11.640
So how did she catch you?
00:25:13.020
Like she would like entering the house or something.
00:25:16.840
Like you would have a girl over.
00:25:18.420
Yeah.
00:25:19.200
No,
00:25:19.520
no.
00:25:20.660
Or a couple.
00:25:21.680
Okay.
00:25:22.200
And she would come over and what happened?
00:25:24.200
She would kick them out?
00:25:25.680
No,
00:25:26.200
I kicked them out and I stayed with you after.
00:25:28.120
Did you ever have sex with one girl and then have sex with her right after?
00:25:45.340
And she knowingly did that.
00:25:46.600
Yes.
00:25:48.500
And your experience,
00:25:50.560
do women stay after they're cheated on?
00:25:55.260
Unfortunately,
00:25:55.840
some do,
00:25:56.320
but they shouldn't.
00:25:57.420
If they respect themselves,
00:25:58.660
they should just leave.
00:25:59.660
Yeah,
00:25:59.820
not should.
00:26:00.260
I'm asking what they do.
00:26:01.560
Yeah.
00:26:02.920
Yeah,
00:26:03.420
they stay.
00:26:04.180
Okay.
00:26:04.580
Some of them,
00:26:05.200
they do.
00:26:05.520
Okay.
00:26:05.960
Would you say more stay or more go?
00:26:07.520
That depends.
00:26:10.380
I say more stay.
00:26:11.340
No,
00:26:11.460
thank you.
00:26:12.620
Did you ask them to stay or did they say,
00:26:14.680
I want to stay?
00:26:15.940
Because there's a difference.
00:26:17.260
No,
00:26:17.620
no,
00:26:17.920
they want attention immediately after.
00:26:19.640
No one say,
00:26:20.180
oh,
00:26:20.260
I want to stay.
00:26:21.520
But you,
00:26:21.980
do you ever,
00:26:22.480
do you say,
00:26:22.880
I won't do it again?
00:26:23.680
I'm sorry.
00:26:24.180
I love you.
00:26:24.900
You're the one.
00:26:25.440
Blah,
00:26:25.460
blah,
00:26:25.660
blah,
00:26:25.740
blah,
00:26:25.840
blah,
00:26:25.980
blah.
00:26:26.020
Yeah.
00:26:26.240
I didn't say that.
00:26:27.400
Did you buy them a Porsche?
00:26:28.540
Yeah,
00:26:28.720
but I say I'm a Porsche.
00:26:30.300
Did you buy them a nice penthouse?
00:26:31.500
I like the Gini RS program.
00:26:34.320
Put a ring on it.
00:26:38.240
So I don't understand.
00:26:39.360
So just cause he said,
00:26:40.500
I'm sorry,
00:26:40.880
I won't do it again.
00:26:41.520
That's enough.
00:26:42.160
No,
00:26:42.320
no,
00:26:42.520
no,
00:26:43.500
just,
00:26:43.880
just curious as to,
00:26:45.100
are they so desperate to say that they don't need any reassurance?
00:26:49.140
They just like,
00:26:49.920
I don't care.
00:26:50.560
I'm going to stay.
00:26:51.300
Or,
00:26:51.760
or are you coercing them into staying perhaps saying like,
00:26:55.340
I will never coercing as in,
00:26:57.180
what is course rehearsing,
00:26:58.640
but coercing as in,
00:27:00.060
as in sort of saying,
00:27:01.260
Oh,
00:27:01.680
you've caught me.
00:27:02.220
I'll never do it again.
00:27:03.040
You're the one I want.
00:27:03.780
I don't know what I was thinking.
00:27:05.020
That's kind of lying to them.
00:27:07.320
To engage in them.
00:27:09.420
Maybe he means it in the moment.
00:27:10.440
Maybe he means it.
00:27:11.360
Probably.
00:27:11.860
That's what most guys.
00:27:12.900
My point is women don't really care when they get cheated on.
00:27:15.900
They don't.
00:27:16.260
And I say this because if you look at,
00:27:17.320
if you look at their,
00:27:19.380
look at,
00:27:19.780
and I'm telling you,
00:27:20.820
I've seen my friends.
00:27:22.780
They could say they care,
00:27:24.220
but when I look at actions,
00:27:25.220
they typically stay.
00:27:26.380
But why do they stay?
00:27:27.660
That's the question.
00:27:28.800
Have you stayed before?
00:27:29.720
Hell yeah.
00:27:30.400
Why do you stay too rich?
00:27:41.460
But the reasons behind it,
00:27:43.680
I mean,
00:27:43.800
there's an evolutionary reason behind it.
00:27:45.620
There's a reason why women stay.
00:27:47.060
We can try to say biology doesn't matter,
00:27:49.100
but it does.
00:27:49.880
And it's because in the old days,
00:27:51.400
if a guy could take care of other women
00:27:53.200
and was selected by other women,
00:27:54.620
that showed that he could take care of you too.
00:27:57.340
And so that's why cheating,
00:27:58.140
it's different for men and for women.
00:27:59.340
Women tend to stay.
00:28:00.500
What's cheating to you?
00:28:02.640
And in some cultures,
00:28:03.840
they have multiple wives,
00:28:05.320
which is technically.
00:28:06.500
Correct.
00:28:07.060
And I'm saying there's a reason for that.
00:28:08.680
And in some cultures,
00:28:09.780
there's men who,
00:28:10.620
there's women who also have multiple husbands.
00:28:13.160
What culture is that?
00:28:14.200
It's both.
00:28:14.900
What culture is that?
00:28:15.880
There's matriarchal cultures.
00:28:17.580
It's just that we don't learn about them.
00:28:18.980
It doesn't mean that they don't exist.
00:28:20.360
There's one in Asia.
00:28:22.060
There's one.
00:28:22.700
What's it called?
00:28:23.380
Sandbox Island.
00:28:24.240
I need to know about this.
00:28:25.260
I've literally put them on my phone.
00:28:26.380
I didn't know about this.
00:28:27.700
I didn't know about this.
00:28:27.760
I didn't know about this.
00:28:28.260
I didn't know about this.
00:28:29.340
But here's the thing.
00:28:31.600
They don't stand the test of time.
00:28:33.020
They don't become big civilizations.
00:28:35.140
But what's a big civilization?
00:28:37.100
8,000 years ago,
00:28:38.620
17 men,
00:28:40.740
or 17 women were reproduced for every one man.
00:28:43.160
Only 40% of men have reproduced historically.
00:28:47.320
How many?
00:28:47.880
70%?
00:28:48.840
No, 40% of men have reproduced historically.
00:28:51.140
Oh, wow.
00:28:51.760
Yeah, 80% of women have 40% of men.
00:28:53.640
It's always been two women to one man.
00:28:55.340
Oh, wow.
00:28:55.780
That's good to know.
00:28:56.700
For some people,
00:28:57.600
that's the thing.
00:28:58.700
I feel like in society,
00:29:00.160
just because one thing works for someone
00:29:01.740
doesn't mean it works for everyone.
00:29:03.380
I didn't say that.
00:29:04.040
And I think the different tribes
00:29:05.260
and the different, you know.
00:29:06.080
I have to have a conversation about in generalities.
00:29:09.040
Like, if we,
00:29:09.540
this is why I say it depends,
00:29:10.980
it's subjective.
00:29:11.540
Like,
00:29:11.880
we have to talk about the rule
00:29:13.360
before we can talk about the exceptions.
00:29:15.080
And the rule is women tend to stay more than one do.
00:29:17.040
But why do they stay?
00:29:18.160
They stay,
00:29:18.640
especially now in this society.
00:29:19.940
Have you stayed before?
00:29:21.220
Have you stayed before?
00:29:22.320
How many boyfriends have you had?
00:29:23.780
I've never been cheated on.
00:29:24.980
How many boyfriends have you had?
00:29:26.600
I'll say only one.
00:29:28.120
Oh,
00:29:28.580
you'd say only one.
00:29:29.560
Only one.
00:29:29.960
That means you've been seeing a lot of guys now.
00:29:31.760
But why are you single now?
00:29:32.700
I'd say four,
00:29:33.520
like,
00:29:34.280
four people,
00:29:35.020
but real relationship,
00:29:37.040
only one person.
00:29:37.460
Wait,
00:29:37.640
so,
00:29:38.000
I have a question.
00:29:39.040
So,
00:29:39.400
you've done,
00:29:40.180
you've done the situationship thing.
00:29:41.900
Yeah.
00:29:42.080
So,
00:29:42.800
what is a situationship?
00:29:43.940
You're a side chick.
00:29:45.440
No,
00:29:45.960
unless,
00:29:46.440
if he has a mane,
00:29:47.800
then,
00:29:47.900
yeah.
00:29:48.900
I'm saying,
00:29:49.540
I'm saying,
00:29:50.000
when you're in a situationship,
00:29:51.320
it's not.
00:29:51.560
I wouldn't say situationship,
00:29:53.180
but like,
00:29:53.560
you're getting,
00:29:54.000
I was getting to know these people,
00:29:55.320
but then it wasn't,
00:29:56.000
you know.
00:29:56.620
The whole point is,
00:29:57.480
like,
00:29:57.700
you didn't require exclusivity,
00:29:59.620
meaning,
00:30:00.380
he was proud,
00:30:00.900
the reason women stay is because
00:30:02.180
they can't replace the guy.
00:30:03.460
But again,
00:30:04.320
why is that?
00:30:05.140
Because of financial hardship
00:30:07.040
in society,
00:30:08.400
it's literally less beneficial
00:30:10.700
for a woman to leave
00:30:11.580
a relationship
00:30:12.080
than it is for a man.
00:30:13.680
But yeah,
00:30:14.120
it's less beneficial
00:30:15.800
for a woman
00:30:16.500
to leave a relationship,
00:30:18.480
but more women
00:30:19.580
leave relationships,
00:30:20.780
even like you say
00:30:21.720
all the time,
00:30:22.580
70% of divorces
00:30:23.920
are by women.
00:30:24.880
But again,
00:30:25.840
why is it such a high number
00:30:27.700
considering how much
00:30:28.940
they lose
00:30:29.680
in the relationship?
00:30:30.640
Does it not show
00:30:31.720
that there's
00:30:32.500
something missing there?
00:30:34.340
Like,
00:30:34.640
but I think it's because
00:30:36.160
we've told women wrong.
00:30:37.540
Like,
00:30:37.900
we're told that it's
00:30:38.680
about our happiness.
00:30:39.600
Life isn't about happiness.
00:30:40.860
It's about duty.
00:30:41.560
It's about community.
00:30:42.840
And so,
00:30:43.380
when women are unhappy,
00:30:44.760
they leave relationships,
00:30:45.700
even when there's
00:30:46.380
children involved.
00:30:47.740
But it should be
00:30:48.860
about happiness.
00:30:50.080
You should be happy
00:30:50.780
with the person
00:30:51.400
that you're with.
00:30:52.260
You should feel supported
00:30:53.560
by them emotionally,
00:30:55.120
physically.
00:30:55.680
I think that's unrealistic
00:30:57.300
in a 50-year marriage.
00:30:58.680
Like,
00:30:58.840
people used to be married
00:30:59.700
for 50 years.
00:31:00.920
Do you really think
00:31:01.940
that they were happy
00:31:02.820
for 50 years?
00:31:03.920
Did you know that
00:31:04.480
in the 1950s?
00:31:04.980
They've definitely
00:31:05.020
done a little thing
00:31:06.060
on the side.
00:31:06.880
I do believe that.
00:31:08.340
I think that in the,
00:31:09.720
sorry,
00:31:10.160
did you know that
00:31:10.620
in the 1950s,
00:31:11.760
you know,
00:31:12.160
the main era
00:31:14.080
of stay-at-home moms
00:31:15.040
and happy families
00:31:16.060
and all of that,
00:31:17.000
there was like
00:31:17.680
a known thing
00:31:19.060
of those women
00:31:20.320
being extremely unhappy
00:31:22.060
because of the fact
00:31:23.440
that they didn't
00:31:24.400
have an out.
00:31:25.520
Like,
00:31:25.820
they kind of felt stuck.
00:31:27.100
That's like,
00:31:27.320
that's kind of
00:31:27.740
the propaganda
00:31:28.380
that they put.
00:31:30.000
There's facts.
00:31:30.680
Most girls I meet
00:31:34.320
go,
00:31:35.020
I want you to have
00:31:35.600
enough money
00:31:35.960
to have to work.
00:31:35.980
I never say things
00:31:36.900
unless I research it,
00:31:38.180
you know?
00:31:38.420
But here's the problem
00:31:39.880
is most of those studies,
00:31:41.100
if you follow them back,
00:31:42.240
it's by these like
00:31:42.820
feminist gender studies
00:31:44.040
professors that have
00:31:44.780
these universities
00:31:45.520
I only ever do.
00:31:47.020
No, I know
00:31:47.120
that's the problem.
00:31:48.040
Feminists infiltrated
00:31:48.940
universities in the 1970s
00:31:50.720
and 80s
00:31:51.260
so much so
00:31:51.980
that they made it
00:31:52.460
more subjective
00:31:53.120
rather than objective
00:31:54.180
and so,
00:31:54.700
and so the difference
00:31:55.880
is now,
00:31:56.740
it's like we have women
00:31:57.480
running the universities
00:31:58.460
and they even talk
00:31:59.400
about how they
00:31:59.860
rewrite history.
00:32:01.240
But what about
00:32:02.080
the facts that you get?
00:32:03.120
If you can't trust
00:32:03.820
anything that we
00:32:04.780
find online,
00:32:05.720
where can we
00:32:06.280
actually find
00:32:07.360
data to back
00:32:08.660
the things that we say?
00:32:10.140
And I think
00:32:11.960
this is the difference
00:32:12.980
between like
00:32:13.600
the right and the left
00:32:14.420
a lot of times.
00:32:15.300
Like,
00:32:15.780
I think
00:32:16.420
you learn over time
00:32:18.320
like which sources
00:32:19.140
tend to be more credible,
00:32:20.540
but in my experience,
00:32:21.940
like I see
00:32:22.400
what's in front of my eyes.
00:32:23.940
Do you know,
00:32:24.280
like sometimes
00:32:24.860
they want to give you
00:32:25.700
a study and say
00:32:26.540
don't look at
00:32:27.520
what's in front of your eyes
00:32:28.460
and I just don't see
00:32:29.400
men being these
00:32:30.100
crazy abusers
00:32:31.180
that are just
00:32:31.620
making women miserable.
00:32:32.800
But that's your experience.
00:32:34.420
I've seen the difference.
00:32:36.120
If anything,
00:32:36.600
I see it the other way
00:32:37.500
around much more.
00:32:38.920
I disagree.
00:32:40.000
I've seen it
00:32:40.580
completely different
00:32:41.320
on my side
00:32:41.780
and that's my experience
00:32:42.860
and I feel like
00:32:43.520
just because
00:32:44.840
you haven't seen this
00:32:46.540
doesn't make it
00:32:47.800
not true.
00:32:48.700
Like,
00:32:48.880
it doesn't delete
00:32:49.560
other people's experiences.
00:32:51.240
There's hundreds
00:32:51.920
of millions
00:32:52.740
of women on this earth.
00:32:54.480
I guess if we're
00:32:55.640
going to go off
00:32:56.220
of abuse,
00:32:56.860
then I want to see
00:32:57.500
police reports.
00:32:58.700
And that's the issue
00:32:59.420
is the majority
00:33:00.200
of abuse claims
00:33:01.620
are not filed
00:33:02.360
in criminal court.
00:33:03.600
This is true.
00:33:05.920
But why?
00:33:07.460
I'm the first
00:33:08.320
I've experienced
00:33:08.980
on this shit.
00:33:09.860
I'll tell you
00:33:10.740
why it is.
00:33:11.420
It's because
00:33:11.720
in criminal court
00:33:13.180
it requires evidence
00:33:14.420
and in family court
00:33:16.020
it's on a balance
00:33:16.640
of probabilities
00:33:17.300
meaning if it's 51%
00:33:18.800
more likely
00:33:19.540
that he did it
00:33:20.360
then they will take
00:33:21.300
the woman's side.
00:33:22.100
So if a woman
00:33:22.420
cries on the stand
00:33:23.300
she only has to
00:33:24.080
wait,
00:33:24.680
she only has to
00:33:25.200
convince one judge
00:33:26.420
where in criminal court
00:33:27.640
it's a jury
00:33:28.840
of your peers
00:33:29.580
which is a lot
00:33:30.240
harder to sway
00:33:31.260
and that in my opinion
00:33:33.000
is why women
00:33:33.900
do not file
00:33:34.940
police reports.
00:33:36.320
But how do you
00:33:37.180
sorry,
00:33:37.740
I think they don't file it
00:33:38.900
because they're scared
00:33:39.560
in all honesty.
00:33:40.560
And how do you prove
00:33:41.980
women have use?
00:33:42.920
There's nothing to prove
00:33:43.340
though.
00:33:43.600
That's why they didn't
00:33:44.160
fight.
00:33:44.500
No, it's not.
00:33:45.340
Guys, I'm from Brazil
00:33:46.240
and he has one of
00:33:47.140
the highest rates
00:33:47.940
of violence against
00:33:48.840
women.
00:33:49.260
So it depends
00:33:49.680
on where you are.
00:33:50.360
I've done like
00:33:50.940
charity work
00:33:51.600
and working with
00:33:52.200
women.
00:33:52.880
So depending,
00:33:54.100
guys, look,
00:33:54.800
it depends
00:33:55.260
socioeconomically.
00:33:57.360
These things,
00:33:58.500
they are very different.
00:34:00.400
Maybe in Brazil
00:34:01.200
I'll tell you that.
00:34:02.180
Yeah, no,
00:34:02.820
that's why
00:34:03.300
what we're talking about
00:34:04.500
is it depends
00:34:05.080
on where you are.
00:34:05.380
Even on an international level,
00:34:06.840
the issue is that
00:34:07.520
they've switched
00:34:07.900
to the Duluth model.
00:34:08.880
Now, what is the Duluth model?
00:34:09.880
This was founded
00:34:10.380
by three feminists
00:34:11.460
and one of them
00:34:12.380
even admitted
00:34:13.220
that it was not correct.
00:34:15.560
Like that
00:34:15.900
the evidence
00:34:16.560
that she was seeing
00:34:17.300
working with women
00:34:17.940
that had been abused
00:34:18.760
did not line up
00:34:19.800
with the model
00:34:20.500
that they made.
00:34:21.080
And basically,
00:34:21.580
the model that they made
00:34:22.340
put men
00:34:23.140
because they have more power.
00:34:24.480
It's like a very
00:34:24.880
feminist worldview.
00:34:25.740
The men have more power.
00:34:27.100
They are automatically
00:34:27.980
the oppressor.
00:34:28.720
Why do they call the police
00:34:29.760
and they automatically
00:34:30.460
arrest the man,
00:34:31.060
even if the woman's
00:34:31.780
hitting the man,
00:34:32.260
it's because it's all
00:34:32.940
based off of the Duluth model.
00:34:34.660
And this, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:35.300
I've been arrested
00:34:35.780
three times.
00:34:37.000
Three times, man.
00:34:38.320
CID, man.
00:34:39.660
12 hours in the cell
00:34:40.660
for no reason.
00:34:41.240
I just noticed patterns
00:34:42.320
and you see the same patterns.
00:34:43.440
So you're like the number one.
00:34:44.440
You're the number one
00:34:45.500
swiped right man
00:34:46.240
on Tinder, right?
00:34:46.920
Exactly.
00:34:47.160
They always do it
00:34:48.540
to men.
00:34:48.940
They always do it
00:34:49.520
to men with money,
00:34:50.340
power, and status.
00:34:51.160
You can check the reports
00:34:52.080
if you want.
00:34:52.520
I didn't do anything wrong.
00:34:54.760
And that's the problem
00:34:57.880
with the abuse claims
00:34:59.420
is that the system
00:35:00.660
is so skewed one way
00:35:01.840
because it's all based
00:35:02.780
on a feminist model
00:35:03.760
that men have more power.
00:35:05.380
But they do have more power.
00:35:07.280
What do you mean?
00:35:07.960
If women only got rights
00:35:10.380
about a good 60, 70 years ago,
00:35:12.460
how would you say
00:35:13.060
that they don't have power?
00:35:14.380
Especially if...
00:35:15.060
But women have power.
00:35:15.880
I know women
00:35:16.880
that are stronger than me.
00:35:17.780
Of course.
00:35:18.160
I'm not saying that there isn't.
00:35:19.440
Yeah, there's definitely
00:35:20.060
a woman that could take men,
00:35:21.660
you know,
00:35:21.980
even football, sports, whatnot.
00:35:23.380
But it doesn't change
00:35:25.960
the fact that...
00:35:27.100
I've seen angry tricks.
00:35:28.600
Sussex, you can take me out.
00:35:29.700
How are women oppressed?
00:35:34.660
Work, motherhood.
00:35:37.160
There are grants
00:35:38.200
that women get paid.
00:35:39.540
Like, there are special jobs
00:35:40.880
that are for women.
00:35:42.180
Women get paid
00:35:42.880
more than men.
00:35:43.660
Of course,
00:35:44.400
but then how did jobs
00:35:46.060
become male-dominated?
00:35:47.900
How did jobs
00:35:48.820
become male-dominated?
00:35:49.940
They became male-dominated
00:35:51.760
because men refused
00:35:53.100
women to enter.
00:35:54.420
And then...
00:35:54.920
Why don't women
00:35:55.680
enter plumbing?
00:35:56.760
They do enter plumbing.
00:35:58.120
Because it's male-populated.
00:36:00.920
And if it's a man...
00:36:02.260
It's less than 3%.
00:36:03.480
It's like even the military.
00:36:05.020
I know you've made points
00:36:05.800
about the military.
00:36:06.940
Women weren't allowed
00:36:07.800
to serve in the U.S. military
00:36:09.200
like fully up until 2016.
00:36:12.140
So how can you say,
00:36:13.580
oh, why aren't women
00:36:14.480
in the military
00:36:15.080
when they literally
00:36:15.940
weren't given an opportunity
00:36:17.060
to...
00:36:18.800
I was in the military.
00:36:19.600
It's in the...
00:36:20.860
You started over to 2016.
00:36:22.360
No.
00:36:22.780
Yeah, literally.
00:36:23.420
On all areas.
00:36:25.420
On all areas.
00:36:27.080
I'm not saying
00:36:27.700
they were...
00:36:28.460
I was in the Royal Air Force,
00:36:30.760
yeah,
00:36:31.020
and I had women.
00:36:31.940
Excuse me, excuse me.
00:36:32.840
One second.
00:36:33.420
Women weren't passing the tests.
00:36:36.300
The reason why women
00:36:37.080
started entering more
00:36:38.600
in 2016
00:36:39.160
is because they lowered
00:36:40.000
test scores
00:36:40.740
to allow women in.
00:36:43.000
But again,
00:36:44.300
it doesn't change the fact
00:36:45.500
that women weren't allowed
00:36:46.700
in these areas.
00:36:47.700
It's not about being allowed.
00:36:48.960
If you don't pass a test,
00:36:50.440
why should they allow you...
00:36:51.200
But if the test
00:36:51.860
was predominantly made
00:36:53.140
for a specific group
00:36:54.740
because they were
00:36:55.500
the only group
00:36:56.240
that were allowed
00:36:56.980
to do something,
00:36:57.900
of course you would fail.
00:36:59.680
It doesn't...
00:37:00.180
No, the Matrix test
00:37:01.300
is made to get
00:37:02.260
the strongest soldiers.
00:37:04.060
There's been studies
00:37:05.800
of bias
00:37:06.400
on the Matrix system.
00:37:08.360
That's not for me.
00:37:09.620
Just because men
00:37:10.240
happen to be stronger
00:37:11.260
than women
00:37:11.780
doesn't mean
00:37:12.580
the tests were designed
00:37:13.560
to...
00:37:14.220
No, no, no.
00:37:14.640
I'm not saying
00:37:15.420
it's because
00:37:16.480
that was the main,
00:37:18.500
you know,
00:37:19.100
the main target.
00:37:21.140
Men were the...
00:37:21.700
Yeah, because they
00:37:22.340
were the only ones.
00:37:23.120
Why would you create
00:37:23.820
a system to...
00:37:24.580
Wait, so I have a question.
00:37:25.800
I have a question.
00:37:26.120
No, they had to protect
00:37:26.860
our country.
00:37:27.920
I have a question.
00:37:29.180
If they say you have
00:37:30.880
to do 50 push-ups
00:37:32.040
to enter
00:37:32.580
and you can't do
00:37:33.380
50 push-ups,
00:37:34.420
how are you oppressed?
00:37:36.020
It's not about that,
00:37:37.760
but that's not
00:37:39.180
as simple as it is.
00:37:40.340
So answer.
00:37:41.440
So then you're not oppressed,
00:37:42.320
you just can't pass the test.
00:37:43.240
No, but if all I've been
00:37:44.440
doing all my life
00:37:45.160
is being at home
00:37:46.100
because the only thing
00:37:47.320
that I can do
00:37:47.980
is be at home...
00:37:49.140
Name one housewife
00:37:50.720
in the media.
00:37:51.840
Name one.
00:37:52.120
One housewife
00:37:52.880
in the media.
00:37:53.660
I'm talking about them.
00:37:54.520
No, no, no.
00:37:54.540
This is society.
00:37:55.380
Society tells us
00:37:56.220
to be housewives.
00:37:56.920
Name one in the media.
00:37:57.840
Name one.
00:37:58.400
One.
00:37:58.900
How did it start?
00:38:00.840
Because society
00:38:01.760
wants us back
00:38:02.820
into the house.
00:38:04.460
I don't understand.
00:38:05.880
This is a big propaganda.
00:38:07.740
This is a big propaganda.
00:38:08.280
Who's in the media?
00:38:09.220
Propaganda.
00:38:09.700
And I could give you
00:38:11.520
many, many more.
00:38:12.600
I know a lot of housewives
00:38:13.820
and they're happy.
00:38:15.420
They're happy.
00:38:16.300
Kim Kardashian,
00:38:17.360
Cardi B.
00:38:17.880
You're in the media.
00:38:18.840
But also going back
00:38:19.700
to the war,
00:38:20.640
when it was the actual wars,
00:38:22.400
women were serving,
00:38:23.620
women were helping out.
00:38:24.780
When it comes to
00:38:25.520
the...
00:38:25.700
Even here in Britain.
00:38:28.220
What percent?
00:38:29.720
I don't know the percentage,
00:38:30.700
but they were helping out.
00:38:31.420
Because you know
00:38:31.860
it was in my war.
00:38:32.580
Can I say something?
00:38:33.080
Okay, okay.
00:38:33.480
Do you think women
00:38:34.700
were equally as helpful
00:38:36.180
as men in the military?
00:38:37.620
That's not what I'm saying.
00:38:38.140
No, no, no, no, no.
00:38:38.920
That's not what I'm saying, though.
00:38:40.120
I'm asking you.
00:38:41.360
No, I think...
00:38:41.940
Were they equally as helpful
00:38:43.040
as the men in the military?
00:38:44.520
I think, you know,
00:38:45.360
they helped made weapons.
00:38:48.080
They helped get...
00:38:48.720
They helped the preparation.
00:38:50.680
No, no, no.
00:38:50.880
They helped the preparation.
00:38:52.300
It's a team effort.
00:38:53.380
Who was more helpful?
00:38:53.860
I'm not going to...
00:38:54.480
It's a team effort.
00:38:55.460
Okay, okay.
00:38:56.100
If we need...
00:38:56.280
I think everyone has things
00:38:57.360
that they can do.
00:38:58.280
I'll answer.
00:38:59.260
I want to show you something.
00:39:01.060
Whenever I ask a question
00:39:02.820
that makes women look bad,
00:39:03.980
women don't answer.
00:39:05.180
Can I answer?
00:39:05.860
Can I answer?
00:39:08.360
That's when it gets...
00:39:09.700
It depends.
00:39:10.560
It's subjective.
00:39:11.060
No, it's because
00:39:11.940
everyone has a part to play.
00:39:14.500
So it was a puzzle.
00:39:16.020
It's even like
00:39:16.480
everyone in Britain.
00:39:17.500
All right, all right, all right.
00:39:18.100
All right.
00:39:18.360
So let me get this straight.
00:39:19.420
If someone breaks in right now,
00:39:21.280
you guys could equally
00:39:22.760
defend this place.
00:39:24.180
I mean, I would trust
00:39:27.140
one man for the job.
00:39:29.400
God, no, man.
00:39:30.600
That's why I see...
00:39:31.600
One man for the job.
00:39:32.580
I will answer on behalf
00:39:33.340
of here about the army.
00:39:34.760
No, you cannot be as men.
00:39:36.320
You cannot carry the same weight.
00:39:37.780
You cannot fight as hard.
00:39:38.980
That's what I'm saying.
00:39:39.660
I'm saying they contributed
00:39:40.620
so they helped.
00:39:41.340
They were part of the puzzle.
00:39:42.340
I'm not saying they're a strong man.
00:39:43.640
I'm not sure.
00:39:44.680
That's not what I'm saying.
00:39:45.660
But the whole point
00:39:47.060
is only one gender
00:39:48.400
had to put their life
00:39:49.420
on the line
00:39:50.000
in the front lines.
00:39:51.380
In the front line.
00:39:52.020
But then why?
00:39:52.920
Who created these wars?
00:39:55.000
Who created the needs
00:39:56.260
for these things?
00:39:56.820
It's necessary.
00:39:58.260
Sometimes.
00:39:58.940
So this is incorrect.
00:40:00.020
Women are more likely
00:40:01.020
to wage war than men.
00:40:02.480
They took the world leaders
00:40:04.480
out of the last 500 years.
00:40:06.220
And when women were in power,
00:40:08.340
they were more likely
00:40:09.340
to wage war than men,
00:40:10.520
which makes sense
00:40:11.380
because the women aren't fighting.
00:40:12.880
So it's a lot easier
00:40:13.740
to wage war.
00:40:13.800
I feel like there hasn't been
00:40:14.800
enough women
00:40:15.820
to make that type of
00:40:17.600
solid argument.
00:40:19.020
There hasn't been enough
00:40:19.580
women in power
00:40:20.700
to make it.
00:40:21.680
Of course.
00:40:22.340
I'm not saying there hasn't,
00:40:23.660
but enough for as many as men.
00:40:26.200
Can I say something else?
00:40:28.320
Percentages.
00:40:28.860
It's not about the number.
00:40:29.940
It's relative to the percentage.
00:40:32.100
So if you have five,
00:40:33.680
only ten women
00:40:34.480
that have ever ruled
00:40:35.300
and nine of them wage war
00:40:36.760
and you've had
00:40:37.540
five million men
00:40:38.500
that have ruled
00:40:38.920
and only one wage is war.
00:40:40.060
But that's not true.
00:40:41.040
There's loads of men
00:40:42.120
that have waged war.
00:40:43.080
That's my point.
00:40:44.120
Okay.
00:40:44.340
It's relative to the number
00:40:46.320
of men that have been left.
00:40:46.620
Yeah.
00:40:46.880
If there's a smaller percentage,
00:40:48.740
there's going to be a bigger...
00:40:50.140
Do you get what I mean?
00:40:50.780
If there's...
00:40:51.380
Yeah.
00:40:52.280
Yeah.
00:40:52.600
Do you see how it's like
00:40:54.240
feminists manipulate the stats
00:40:56.300
to fit their narrative?
00:40:57.940
Something else.
00:40:58.860
You said about male-dominated jobs.
00:41:00.900
Yeah.
00:41:01.040
Because before
00:41:02.600
you were staying home,
00:41:04.480
you were taking care of the kids
00:41:05.780
because you have
00:41:06.280
different qualities as a woman
00:41:07.540
and men who have
00:41:08.720
different qualities as men,
00:41:10.100
as biological men,
00:41:11.260
one second.
00:41:12.340
Yeah.
00:41:12.640
They were going to work
00:41:13.660
many hours to bring the food
00:41:15.140
and keep the house safe.
00:41:18.140
And another thing,
00:41:18.780
since 1972,
00:41:20.380
you have the same rights,
00:41:21.920
equality at job opportunities.
00:41:24.100
So you cannot say about...
00:41:25.560
Because you know what?
00:41:26.380
I know women in industries
00:41:27.740
that I worked before
00:41:28.660
that they get paid more than men
00:41:30.040
because they work harder
00:41:30.900
and they bring more money
00:41:32.280
on the table.
00:41:33.300
That's what matters.
00:41:34.320
But what about when
00:41:35.420
all the men went to war
00:41:36.980
and all the women
00:41:37.780
had to go and work
00:41:38.680
into factories
00:41:39.340
and keep Britain,
00:41:40.480
literally keep Britain alive?
00:41:42.320
Because there wasn't anyone...
00:41:43.580
The country would have fallen
00:41:44.660
economically.
00:41:45.260
Even 1% of women
00:41:46.340
were working during that time
00:41:47.680
that all the feminists
00:41:48.820
talk about.
00:41:49.300
What percent of women
00:41:50.140
do you think were working?
00:41:51.640
No, tell me.
00:41:52.680
They held the economy together, right?
00:41:55.040
What percent of women
00:41:55.760
were working?
00:41:56.420
So how many were?
00:41:57.280
It was like 20 to 30%
00:41:59.020
that were working.
00:42:00.080
So it wasn't even the majority
00:42:01.140
of women that like worked.
00:42:02.560
But it was still a significant...
00:42:04.080
Like it made a difference.
00:42:05.020
I did not say that women
00:42:07.020
had no use in the workforce,
00:42:08.700
but women are significantly
00:42:10.580
less useful than men
00:42:12.460
in the workforce,
00:42:13.300
even in present day.
00:42:15.020
45% of men today
00:42:16.940
have infrastructure jobs.
00:42:18.900
What percent of women
00:42:19.760
have infrastructure jobs?
00:42:21.460
7%.
00:42:22.060
We want to talk about
00:42:23.300
an unfair pay gap.
00:42:24.940
It's pretty unfair
00:42:25.820
that the pay is even close
00:42:27.580
when men do way more
00:42:29.420
hard jobs in society.
00:42:31.400
Women monetize...
00:42:32.520
I did a physical job.
00:42:33.160
I'm not talking about you guys.
00:42:35.880
I'm talking about the numbers.
00:42:38.660
So...
00:42:38.920
Yeah, also men,
00:42:40.180
they take more risky jobs
00:42:41.600
and they have more strength
00:42:42.920
and things like this.
00:42:43.680
So they...
00:42:44.440
The jobs that they operate
00:42:45.700
every day,
00:42:46.700
they suffer like more risk
00:42:48.480
than women.
00:42:49.140
If you take a look
00:42:49.960
at the drivers
00:42:50.800
and things like this
00:42:51.640
and I think we need
00:42:53.480
to find the balance
00:42:54.860
and many things
00:42:55.760
I think there is a feminism
00:42:57.140
that it gives a lot
00:42:58.400
of advantages to women.
00:42:59.520
So in the beginning
00:43:00.340
they came with this propaganda,
00:43:02.120
but now it's becoming
00:43:03.080
way too far.
00:43:04.740
I take a lot of actions
00:43:06.060
and I say a lot of things
00:43:06.700
to protect my brother
00:43:07.400
and I have a lot of male friends
00:43:10.460
and many things
00:43:11.700
there is a feminism
00:43:13.520
that they open their mouth
00:43:14.440
and they do something.
00:43:16.220
But it's very much...
00:43:17.540
For example,
00:43:17.980
I've been to places
00:43:18.700
where women were really
00:43:19.620
looking for needs
00:43:20.540
and things like this.
00:43:21.900
I didn't see any feminists
00:43:23.500
there holding their babies
00:43:25.220
or listening to them
00:43:25.880
when they were being raped
00:43:26.760
or things like this.
00:43:28.020
So it's easy to say,
00:43:29.200
oh, I'm a feminist
00:43:29.720
and, you know,
00:43:30.500
talking about rights
00:43:31.420
when you're like
00:43:32.080
in a very privileged area,
00:43:33.480
but I haven't seen them
00:43:34.960
really going to do
00:43:35.980
their dirty job
00:43:36.840
because I've been there
00:43:37.920
and they were not there.
00:43:40.020
So it's a lot...
00:43:41.260
Very hypocritical,
00:43:42.400
like what's going on
00:43:43.620
nowadays.
00:43:44.000
And they don't come
00:43:44.200
to the WNBA games too.
00:43:46.460
They want the equal pay
00:43:47.540
in sports
00:43:48.140
and I've been waiting
00:43:49.000
for them in the stands.
00:43:50.540
I've been playing
00:43:51.680
for 16 years.
00:43:52.780
They never come.
00:43:53.800
I've been waiting.
00:43:55.440
And also it's about profit
00:43:56.680
when it comes to sports
00:43:57.920
and things like this.
00:43:58.600
If you see like football,
00:44:00.480
most men watching
00:44:01.800
so they're going
00:44:02.480
to give more money, right?
00:44:03.980
And I'm a mother as well.
00:44:05.000
Like,
00:44:05.620
we get paid
00:44:06.640
much more than the guys.
00:44:08.500
And when it comes
00:44:09.200
to football,
00:44:10.080
it happens.
00:44:11.180
Exactly.
00:44:11.620
And where are you...
00:44:13.180
Hold on a minute.
00:44:14.220
I've been 15 years
00:44:15.440
getting paid...
00:44:16.180
Like,
00:44:16.420
girls get paid
00:44:17.120
well more than us.
00:44:17.920
Why aren't you
00:44:19.060
marching the streets?
00:44:20.180
Go march.
00:44:20.820
Where are the feminists
00:44:21.600
by your crimes?
00:44:21.900
I was by myself.
00:44:23.300
I was marching by myself.
00:44:24.080
But this is the thing,
00:44:24.880
like feminists just whine.
00:44:26.540
It's just whining
00:44:27.340
about the pay
00:44:28.140
when we have a lot
00:44:29.100
of privilege in society.
00:44:30.780
You know who owns the most
00:44:32.160
out of all the,
00:44:33.900
like,
00:44:34.440
different groups?
00:44:35.160
I think it's married men
00:44:36.520
that out-earned.
00:44:37.560
Single men,
00:44:38.660
single women,
00:44:39.480
and married men.
00:44:40.260
And women love rich men.
00:44:42.940
But what's that
00:44:43.780
to do with
00:44:44.540
the quote
00:44:45.200
that I've just made?
00:44:46.340
Do you know what?
00:44:47.100
Do you know what?
00:44:47.520
There was a stat
00:44:48.080
the other day
00:44:48.580
on Tinder.
00:44:49.320
So Tinder released
00:44:50.100
some stats again, right?
00:44:51.260
It's 66% of people
00:44:52.800
that are on Tinder
00:44:54.020
are in a relationship.
00:44:55.620
Wow.
00:44:55.880
Yeah.
00:44:56.860
How did they find that out?
00:44:58.080
Oh,
00:44:58.420
they got their way.
00:45:01.660
So,
00:45:02.420
all right.
00:45:03.740
Back to cheating.
00:45:04.740
Have you ever cheated?
00:45:05.860
Miss Model?
00:45:06.820
I haven't cheated,
00:45:08.100
but I've been cheated.
00:45:09.300
You've been cheating a lot.
00:45:10.040
You've been cheated on.
00:45:11.580
Yeah,
00:45:11.840
and my brother knew
00:45:12.860
and the girl
00:45:13.960
has the same name as me.
00:45:15.680
So,
00:45:15.820
she was called Barbara.
00:45:17.260
And my brother knew,
00:45:18.420
he was there
00:45:18.900
and he didn't tell me.
00:45:20.100
And there's one...
00:45:20.580
What?
00:45:20.980
Yeah,
00:45:21.340
that's one different thing.
00:45:22.380
I think he paid your brother
00:45:23.320
to say that.
00:45:24.400
That's terrible.
00:45:25.320
His brother was like,
00:45:26.260
he's a good guy.
00:45:27.160
It's all right.
00:45:28.080
That's terrible.
00:45:28.580
But also,
00:45:29.100
I think guys have more
00:45:30.300
like this brotherhood.
00:45:31.640
No,
00:45:31.880
no.
00:45:32.280
No way.
00:45:33.080
It's just brother.
00:45:33.920
That's his sister.
00:45:34.720
He should have told me,
00:45:36.420
yes.
00:45:36.700
If someone was cheating on my sister,
00:45:38.360
I'll go mental.
00:45:39.220
But men,
00:45:40.060
I think they watch more
00:45:42.140
their backs on each other.
00:45:43.660
I just need to reiterate the rules.
00:45:45.460
I know we get carried away
00:45:46.340
in conversation,
00:45:47.140
but please,
00:45:47.480
if someone is speaking,
00:45:48.580
can we all just let them speak?
00:45:50.000
Thank you.
00:45:51.120
Yeah,
00:45:51.380
so I think men has more
00:45:52.520
like this brotherhood
00:45:53.360
and it just not reflect
00:45:54.420
just on this,
00:45:55.600
but I think like girls
00:45:56.860
should watch more
00:45:57.480
their back on each other
00:45:58.660
and then girls,
00:46:00.060
they compete a lot
00:46:00.840
and things like this.
00:46:01.960
and I see men
00:46:02.880
like having
00:46:03.580
like a true brotherhood,
00:46:05.260
you know?
00:46:05.880
So I think
00:46:06.340
that's also part
00:46:07.960
of like feminism.
00:46:08.920
I'm a model.
00:46:09.740
I get criticized
00:46:10.660
by other girls
00:46:11.800
because I wear makeup,
00:46:12.840
because this,
00:46:13.400
because that,
00:46:14.540
you know?
00:46:14.840
And first of all,
00:46:15.600
feminism is about
00:46:16.200
like giving freedom.
00:46:17.120
If the girl wants to do,
00:46:18.100
okay,
00:46:19.140
you know?
00:46:19.400
So I think nowadays
00:46:20.060
they are fighting
00:46:21.800
against oppression
00:46:22.720
and they were oppressing.
00:46:24.220
Yeah,
00:46:24.520
I do agree with that.
00:46:25.240
You know,
00:46:25.480
it happens a lot.
00:46:26.680
Yeah.
00:46:27.040
So also we as women
00:46:28.520
have to stand up
00:46:29.620
and you know,
00:46:30.220
many feminists,
00:46:31.020
like they go to
00:46:31.800
a lot of extremes.
00:46:32.720
They're just being puppets
00:46:33.880
of a system.
00:46:35.380
Who is profiting
00:46:36.460
behind of that?
00:46:37.920
Who is leading that?
00:46:38.940
Who is feeding that?
00:46:39.880
Who started this?
00:46:41.700
You know?
00:46:42.320
So I,
00:46:43.660
I think this is going
00:46:45.160
like way too far.
00:46:46.320
I'd say it would get us
00:46:46.620
kicked off, you too.
00:46:49.300
So,
00:46:50.320
anyways,
00:46:51.500
so I haven't cheated,
00:46:54.260
but one thing is that
00:46:55.620
when I felt attracted
00:46:57.680
by someone else,
00:46:58.440
I realized that
00:46:58.860
there was something wrong
00:46:59.640
with my relationship
00:47:00.360
and then I took
00:47:02.940
as an alert
00:47:03.840
and then I,
00:47:05.120
How did you catch him cheating?
00:47:08.060
First,
00:47:08.720
like people talk,
00:47:09.540
it was a small town.
00:47:10.980
So someone said something to you?
00:47:12.460
Yeah,
00:47:12.840
it was a small town.
00:47:13.520
What did they say to you?
00:47:16.020
First people in the party,
00:47:17.980
they saw it
00:47:18.540
and they just said like,
00:47:19.580
okay,
00:47:19.860
he kissed this girl.
00:47:20.880
Where was you?
00:47:22.080
Huh?
00:47:22.480
Sorry to interrupt.
00:47:23.480
But if you saw,
00:47:24.880
if someone saw it
00:47:25.720
in a party
00:47:26.220
and you were,
00:47:26.780
it was like a prom in Brazil.
00:47:28.580
So they were invited
00:47:29.260
like for another male friends
00:47:30.720
of them
00:47:31.160
because my brother
00:47:31.920
was all in the same group
00:47:33.080
and I wasn't invited.
00:47:34.780
Yeah.
00:47:35.060
Oh,
00:47:35.180
he didn't invite you?
00:47:36.320
No,
00:47:36.540
because actually it's selected.
00:47:38.040
So you can't bring
00:47:39.420
like a plus one
00:47:40.240
or something like this.
00:47:41.080
I'll kick off.
00:47:41.720
So you found,
00:47:45.260
they told you
00:47:46.000
and then you confronted him.
00:47:47.280
Did you stay after?
00:47:48.940
No,
00:47:49.520
no.
00:47:49.820
He started to say like,
00:47:51.060
no,
00:47:51.360
that's not true.
00:47:52.280
And I was like,
00:47:52.900
and I'm very realistic.
00:47:53.800
If someone cheated on me,
00:47:54.920
I don't even feel angry
00:47:56.380
or anything
00:47:56.760
because it reflects
00:47:57.820
why you're going to suffer
00:47:58.760
or go crazy
00:47:59.600
or try revenge
00:48:00.320
for someone
00:48:00.740
who doesn't want you.
00:48:02.440
That's very,
00:48:03.260
you know what?
00:48:03.880
So I don't even waste my energy.
00:48:05.460
You know,
00:48:05.680
I'll be,
00:48:06.100
if someone cheated on me
00:48:07.000
and I find out,
00:48:08.600
of course you're going to be sad,
00:48:09.640
but I'm going to be the first one
00:48:10.540
to say like,
00:48:11.200
go leave.
00:48:11.860
You never slept with him again
00:48:13.020
after that?
00:48:13.920
With who?
00:48:14.600
The boyfriend.
00:48:15.820
Ah,
00:48:16.060
this one.
00:48:16.640
Yeah.
00:48:16.960
No,
00:48:17.240
no,
00:48:17.400
no.
00:48:17.600
And I was very young
00:48:18.480
at the time.
00:48:18.880
Did you ever speak to him again?
00:48:21.200
Yeah,
00:48:21.440
yeah.
00:48:21.780
Okay.
00:48:22.220
Still friends?
00:48:23.320
Not friends,
00:48:24.280
but we are from a small town.
00:48:26.120
We have friends in common,
00:48:27.380
you know,
00:48:27.620
just be polite.
00:48:28.300
Okay.
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And you've never cheated.
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No.
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You said you're a model,
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right?
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Yeah.
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Is cheating common
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amongst models?
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Because I'd imagine
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you're among probably
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like the most beautiful women,
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like top 10,
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20% of beauty,
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right?
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Like,
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right,
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right?
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So,
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how come,
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I'm just curious,
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how common is it
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for models to cheat?
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I think people in the industry
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and media in general.
00:48:51.440
No,
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just models.
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I just,
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what's the reputation
00:48:55.340
of models?
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I'm just curious.
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Stupid.
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Yeah,
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it can be,
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it can be bad.
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And also like,
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if you see on the media,
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if you see any girl
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scored or something,
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but they won't say
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like she's a scored
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or something else.
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They say,
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oh,
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a model.
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No,
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they say a model.
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No,
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they say a model.
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Anyone like this case
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like with Neymar now
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with the football.
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It was a model.
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No,
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she wasn't.
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No,
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but she wasn't.
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Is it common
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for models
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to get like offered
00:49:24.280
money for sex?
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Is that common?
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I think,
00:49:26.440
yeah,
00:49:26.700
it happens.
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It happens.
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It does happen.
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It does happen.
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I do modeling as well.
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And as well as other things.
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A lot of models
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get invited on
00:49:37.900
like image trips
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and like vacations
00:49:41.760
and stuff like that.
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And from firsthand experience,
00:49:44.940
you go and you do
00:49:46.700
some work out there,
00:49:47.620
but also there are people
00:49:49.020
that are probably
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sort of wealthy people.
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I don't know why they're there
00:49:53.840
because they're not part
00:49:54.740
of the modeling thing
00:49:55.600
or maybe they are
00:49:56.400
behind the scenes
00:49:57.140
and there's
00:49:58.560
not the worst,
00:50:00.920
but the weirdest experience
00:50:01.820
I ever had was
00:50:02.560
we had about five models,
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five escorts
00:50:06.460
and then five like actual,
00:50:08.540
I don't know what they were,
00:50:09.300
but they were definitely
00:50:09.960
down for whatever.
00:50:12.440
And so what would happen
00:50:13.880
is throughout the trip,
00:50:15.440
you would do the shoots
00:50:17.460
in the day or whatever
00:50:18.140
and then in the evening
00:50:19.140
you'd go for dinner,
00:50:19.820
you'd hang out,
00:50:20.380
whatever,
00:50:20.940
and the guys on their trip
00:50:22.640
would try with the models first.
00:50:24.580
If it didn't work,
00:50:25.600
they'd go to the next
00:50:26.560
if it didn't work.
00:50:28.160
That's normal tactics.
00:50:29.780
But that's,
00:50:30.800
and these trips
00:50:31.420
were specifically
00:50:32.300
like formulated like that.
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Were the guys,
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were they married or no?
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I think a couple of them were
00:50:37.320
and some of them not.
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So where are their wives?
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Not on the trip.
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They're on the trip.
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Because it's a work trip,
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right?
00:50:43.400
That's,
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it's like,
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yeah,
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so that's,
00:50:46.520
yeah,
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that's.
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And in your experience,
00:50:50.040
are the men
00:50:51.320
that proposition,
00:50:52.640
the escorts,
00:50:53.660
models,
00:50:54.160
whatever,
00:50:54.460
are they typically married
00:50:55.400
or are they typically single?
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I think mostly single.
00:51:00.300
I think single
00:51:01.080
because they go more out
00:51:02.860
like in these social things
00:51:04.360
and also it happens here
00:51:05.580
a lot in London.
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I just imagine
00:51:07.360
if I was a rich guy
00:51:08.280
and I wanted to cheat,
00:51:09.160
I feel like an escort would be
00:51:10.300
because they gotta sign them.
00:51:11.120
You don't have,
00:51:12.000
you don't have any like,
00:51:13.080
you don't have any.
00:51:13.540
It's a business transaction.
00:51:14.760
But you don't get no girls
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on Instagram.
00:51:16.780
You're like,
00:51:17.000
oh my God.
00:51:17.640
And you know what I saw
00:51:18.860
one guy saying?
00:51:20.120
That sometimes it's cheaper
00:51:21.040
to pay for a escort girl
00:51:23.320
and it's guaranteed
00:51:24.140
that you're gonna have that
00:51:25.120
in the end of the night.
00:51:26.480
That sometimes
00:51:26.840
taking a girl
00:51:27.840
and having to invest
00:51:28.680
and this,
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this and that.
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So they just go straight away.
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