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00:00:00.000 It's the Kinsella cast starring Warren Kinsella.

00:00:13.740 Hey, it's Warren. Welcome to the Kinsella cast.

00:00:16.540 Great show for you this week. I've got Brian Lilly,

00:00:19.440 got Andrew Pinson and Carl Belanger, myself, Greg Brady,

00:00:24.600 Stephanie Smythe.

00:00:26.460 Stephanie and I did a panel, kind of a fireside chat for B'nai B'rith.

00:00:31.980 So I've got a section of that, which you may find interesting.

00:00:35.440 I've got hundreds of people doing it into that one.

00:00:38.160 And I had a great day this week.

00:00:41.160 I can't tell you everything about it, but it was really great.

00:00:45.900 So I went out, I was in Toronto, and I went by myself,

00:00:49.820 which I sometimes do, to see Jeff Rosenstock,

00:00:52.820 who I just love, a Jewish punk rocker. 0.98

00:00:56.160 Take that, pro-Hamas douchebags. 0.96

00:01:00.140 And with Gladie and Sydney Gish,

00:01:02.960 so I'm going to be playing stuff by all three of those artists.

00:01:07.140 Sydney is like 27 years old.

00:01:09.440 My shoes are older than her.

00:01:11.280 And she just plays by herself.

00:01:12.820 And she uses loops and effects and stuff, and it's kind of cool.

00:01:16.480 It's not music I love,

00:01:18.880 but kind of interesting what she does.

00:01:21.680 And Gladie I've played before on this show. 0.76

00:01:23.280 And Jeff Rosenstock, of course, is a genius and a madman.

00:01:25.820 He came out wearing a sleeveless tank top and hot pink shorts 0.97

00:01:30.760 and jumped around like a madman.

00:01:33.060 It was a lot of fun.

00:01:34.420 So good week.

00:01:37.580 But, you know, I wrote something.

00:01:40.120 It's weird.

00:01:40.580 Sometimes you write stuff and you think it's going to have impacts,

00:01:42.560 and sometimes you don't, and you get a huge response.

00:01:45.540 In this case, it was an astroturf.

00:01:47.740 It was an astroturf campaign by anti-Semites and Jew-haters

00:01:52.880 and pro-Hamas people to a column I'm about to relate to you.

00:01:58.820 And let me just tell you, boys and girls, 0.99

00:02:01.440 it's not going to fucking work. 0.98

00:02:03.180 Because when you come after me like that, 0.99

00:02:05.080 I'm just going to come back twice as hard at you over and over and over.

00:02:09.360 Because that's kind of how I am.

00:02:11.100 So get ready, because I'm going to be doing another column

00:02:14.240 about your little astroturf campaign for tomorrow's paper.

00:02:17.920 But this is what upset them.

00:02:19.300 Who is the Wizard of Oz?

00:02:20.660 Because, you know, everybody remembers the Wizard of Oz.

00:02:23.800 Like in the 1939 film starring Judy Garland,

00:02:30.240 you know, Dorothy wakes up in the land of Oz

00:02:33.160 and finds herself facing all kinds of terrifying

00:02:36.400 and potentially lethal threats.

00:02:39.720 And then she pulls back the curtain

00:02:42.200 and it reveals that the powerful and frightening Wizard

00:02:46.580 is just an ordinary man.

00:02:49.220 Observing the anti-Israel and sometimes pro-Hamas protests

00:02:52.460 that have paralyzed cities across Canada, the U.S. and Europe

00:02:55.660 since October 7th, that question isn't asked nearly enough.

00:02:59.000 Who is the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain?

00:03:01.640 Like who's the directing mind of all the thousands of protesters

00:03:04.580 that have targeted Western cities big and small?

00:03:08.000 Like who's the webmaster?

00:03:09.020 Who's pushing out all the talking points and messaging?

00:03:11.800 And it's happened before, although not as openly,

00:03:14.180 in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign where I worked for Hillary.

00:03:17.700 It was Russia. 0.70

00:03:18.720 In the 2019 and 2021 Canadian federal campaigns,

00:03:22.080 which I wrote about, it was China.

00:03:23.940 Now in 2024, which country stands to benefit the most

00:03:28.120 from destabilizing Israel and its allies?

00:03:30.400 And like take it from me, like I've run, helped to run lots of political campaigns

00:03:35.780 over the decades.

00:03:36.620 What's happening, what you're seeing on your TV and computer screens isn't organic.

00:03:41.620 Like these events aren't just happening independently.

00:03:44.840 A campaign this global, effective and well-funded,

00:03:47.980 it needs central coordination.

00:03:49.840 It needs a Jew-hating Wizard of Oz. 0.99

00:03:52.180 And so I've written about, actually I've broken some stories about anti-Israel groups

00:03:57.720 have been paying for people to protest.

00:03:59.980 I've shown that they're deploying carefully crafted and segmented messages

00:04:04.700 aimed at specific demographic categories, Gen Z and millennials in particular,

00:04:09.840 using online stuff.

00:04:11.220 I've reported that the social media platforms were used in a coordinated way

00:04:16.780 to deny the atrocities of October 7th,

00:04:19.380 with a barrage of propaganda that spiked online literally hours after Hamas swept into Israel.

00:04:26.400 I've written about how sophisticated grassroots campaigns are being used

00:04:31.700 to push countries like Canada and the U.S.

00:04:33.720 and in Canada, it was successful,

00:04:35.920 into abandoning trade and diplomatic ties with Israel.

00:04:38.700 All of that doesn't just happen spontaneously.

00:04:42.460 It needs a directing mind.

00:04:44.140 It needs somebody to manage the global anti-Semitic campaign.

00:04:47.700 And this week, NBC News released an investigative report

00:04:53.100 that was outstanding by veteran journalist Simone Weishelbaum.

00:04:58.160 I encourage you to read it all.

00:04:59.680 But basically, she talks about a Canadian connection,

00:05:02.480 the Samadon Group in Vancouver.

00:05:04.780 My colleague, Terry Clavin, has written about Samadon.

00:05:08.700 How they're linked to multiple groups that would like to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth.

00:05:13.820 And basically, their leadership is the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, apparently,

00:05:19.060 which has resulted in Samadon being banned in Germany,

00:05:22.800 enlisted as a terror group in Israel.

00:05:24.140 But in Canada, they're allowed to operate openly,

00:05:28.140 making use of their non-profit status.

00:05:30.080 Anyway, that's not to say that this group is coordinating a massive global campaign.

00:05:36.980 That is unlikely.

00:05:38.240 That's something probably beyond the limits of their budget and their abilities.

00:05:42.420 This goes beyond one group, right?

00:05:45.040 And like even Samadon's international coordinator has admitted it,

00:05:49.560 she's called it an alliance of forces internationally

00:05:52.720 to oppose what she called U.S. imperialism and Zionist colonialism.

00:05:58.600 And on that occasion, at least, they're telling the truth.

00:06:00.980 Most of the time, they lie.

00:06:02.840 Most of the groups actively now involved in destabilizing and delegitimizing Israel

00:06:07.620 and Israel's allies in the streets, online, union, NGO, and academic backgrounds, right?

00:06:15.440 They're out there, and they are coordinated.

00:06:19.020 What's unclear now is who's paying the shot,

00:06:21.980 like who's writing the checks for all the protesters and the signs

00:06:24.920 and the organizers and the websites.

00:06:27.320 And intelligence agencies are now at work on trying to answer the question.

00:06:30.700 In the meantime, me and some others plan to follow the money.

00:06:33.780 And most of us think the road will lead, ultimately,

00:06:37.100 to the real Jew-hating Wizard of Oz, which is Iran. 0.64

00:06:40.240 We'll be right back. 0.99

00:07:10.240 Driving me insane, why are you hardwired to my brain

00:07:14.180 While I just skip along and tell myself I'm fine

00:07:17.800 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:07:23.480 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:07:27.480 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:07:32.220 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:07:36.280 I thought of you again, and I don't wanna tell my friends

00:07:40.360 Don't wanna scare them off, and don't wanna be judged

00:07:43.980 But it's so fucking tiring, being tired all the time

00:07:49.040 With no indication that it's ever gonna stop 0.93

00:07:52.980 It won't let up

00:07:56.600 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:08:02.600 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:08:06.600 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:08:11.540 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:08:15.540 I don't wanna conceive that you'll never leave

00:08:19.900 Whether I like it or not

00:08:23.460 I wish you were strong

00:08:25.460 I wish you were strong

00:08:27.460 Yeah, yeah!

00:08:29.200 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:08:32.460 I liked you better when you weren't on my mind

00:08:35.140 I liked you better when you were on my mind

00:08:59.540 I liked you better when you were on my mind 0.99

00:09:03.580 Can you just get the fuck out of here 0.99

00:09:05.980 I'll ride me, get back to the day 0.98

00:09:07.760 You might get another host or something

00:09:10.400 And please be on your way

00:09:12.080 Thanks so much

00:09:13.400 You better when you were on my mind

00:09:16.280 Thank you so much

00:09:17.580 You better when you were on my mind

00:09:20.820 Oh, oh, oh

00:09:21.680 And we're back

00:09:29.080 And we're back with the

00:09:31.900 Reassuring and calm

00:09:34.300 Baritone of Brian Lilly

00:09:36.620 It reminds me of the reassuring

00:09:39.260 Baritone of another leader

00:09:41.140 Whose funeral took place yesterday

00:09:42.980 Brian Moroney

00:09:43.780 Brian, you watched the funeral

00:09:46.180 And was reporting on it

00:09:48.560 What was it like?

00:09:50.320 It looked like it was pretty moving

00:09:51.500 It was

00:09:53.620 You know, it

00:09:55.140 It was in Notre Dame Basilica

00:09:59.420 So a full Catholic mass

00:10:01.460 Full rite of burial

00:10:03.860 And as this Catholic tradition

00:10:05.960 You don't do eulogies

00:10:07.640 In fact, it's a very Protestant thing

00:10:09.580 Doing eulogies

00:10:10.280 But we've all adopted them over the last while

00:10:12.560 And so before the mass began

00:10:14.460 Archbishop Christian Lapine

00:10:17.340 Who did a fantastic job

00:10:19.080 Throughout

00:10:19.700 It was a very Montreal 0.79

00:10:21.140 Ceremony

00:10:23.100 Back and forth between English and French

00:10:25.340 Flawlessly by most people

00:10:27.400 Including Pierre-Paul Pelletot

00:10:29.000 The former

00:10:29.540 Head of Quebec Corps

00:10:31.280 Owner of the Sun

00:10:32.160 At one point

00:10:34.200 And of course

00:10:35.360 Leader of the Parti Quebecois

00:10:36.840 All of them

00:10:37.940 Everyone just

00:10:38.480 Except Wayne Gretzky

00:10:39.800 Just flawlessly moving back and forth

00:10:42.660 You know, the procession

00:10:45.360 That started at St. Patrick's Basilica

00:10:47.300 Kind of the home parish

00:10:48.780 For the Irish community in Montreal

00:10:50.900 And then

00:10:51.720 Came down to

00:10:53.560 Notre Dame Basilica

00:10:55.100 The site of so many big funerals

00:10:56.840 And as I said

00:10:58.260 Off the top of the

00:10:59.280 The column on it

00:11:01.400 Caroline Mayrooney made us cry 0.99

00:11:02.980 Wayne Gretzky made us laugh

00:11:04.320 And Jean Charest and Justin Trudeau

00:11:05.980 Told stories of Brian Mulrooney's greatness

00:11:08.740 James Baker

00:11:10.520 The former Secretary of State

00:11:12.300 Was supposed to be there

00:11:13.200 He ended up in hospital

00:11:14.680 Couldn't make it

00:11:15.440 One of his colleagues read out

00:11:16.760 His wonderful eulogy

00:11:18.560 Pierre-Paul Pelletot

00:11:20.280 Got up and spoke of Mulrooney

00:11:21.820 Being a second father

00:11:22.880 He was our chairman

00:11:24.040 Of the board for Quebec Corps

00:11:26.060 For so long

00:11:26.640 They worked together for decades

00:11:28.080 John Major

00:11:32.300 The former British Prime Minister

00:11:33.580 Was there

00:11:34.040 Sarah, the Duchess of York

00:11:35.720 Gretzky, Harper

00:11:37.400 Joe Clark

00:11:40.480 Can I tell you a story

00:11:42.960 Can I tell you a story

00:11:44.880 About Gretzky and Harper

00:11:46.120 Very quickly

00:11:46.840 Sure

00:11:47.800 So I have a source

00:11:49.220 Who I cannot name

00:11:50.400 But it is not

00:11:51.360 Jean Gretzky

00:11:52.120 Oh sure

00:11:53.100 And Gretzky is

00:11:54.520 No it wasn't

00:11:55.440 It actually wasn't

00:11:56.380 I'll tell you

00:11:56.900 Off the podcast

00:11:58.380 Who it was

00:11:59.140 And Gretzky was standing there

00:12:02.160 And Harper

00:12:03.480 Stephen Harper

00:12:04.580 And Laureen Teske

00:12:05.640 His wife

00:12:06.260 Were getting into their car

00:12:07.860 And they were like

00:12:08.360 Hey come with us

00:12:09.460 So they all jumped into

00:12:11.080 Gretzky jumped into their car

00:12:13.220 And then when they got to

00:12:14.960 To the Basilica

00:12:16.860 The door opened

00:12:18.800 And all the media

00:12:19.480 I was reliably informed

00:12:21.620 That a lot of media mouths 0.99

00:12:23.180 Fell open agape

00:12:24.540 Seeing these

00:12:25.540 Liberal and conservative

00:12:27.740 Prime Ministers

00:12:28.500 Climbing out of the car

00:12:29.740 And

00:12:30.840 But yeah

00:12:31.500 Like just for those 1.00

00:12:32.400 Who aren't

00:12:33.280 Irish Catholics

00:12:34.140 Like Brian and I

00:12:35.660 In our faith

00:12:37.420 We're not allowed

00:12:38.520 To do eulogies

00:12:39.720 It's a common misconception

00:12:41.220 But I think it's a testament

00:12:42.660 To

00:12:43.900 Brian Moroney

00:12:45.460 That there actually were

00:12:47.040 There was

00:12:47.440 These wonderful

00:12:48.400 Reminisces

00:12:49.060 About the guy

00:12:49.660 So what you do

00:12:50.900 Is you either do it

00:12:51.600 Before the Mass starts

00:12:52.700 Or after the Mass is over

00:12:53.960 But you can't do it

00:12:54.880 In the middle of the Mass

00:12:55.720 Yeah the priest

00:12:56.860 The priest will speak

00:12:58.080 About the person

00:12:58.800 Often that leads

00:13:00.180 To weird results

00:13:01.400 Because the priest

00:13:02.400 Sometimes didn't know

00:13:03.920 The person

00:13:04.600 Yeah

00:13:05.200 Who's the subject

00:13:06.420 Of the funeral Mass

00:13:07.360 But that's

00:13:08.200 That's how we

00:13:09.100 We Catholics

00:13:10.280 We Irish

00:13:11.000 Do it

00:13:11.480 There were two votes

00:13:13.280 In the House of Commons

00:13:14.740 In the past few days

00:13:16.860 One was

00:13:18.520 And I think both of them

00:13:19.800 Were failures

00:13:20.420 For different reasons

00:13:21.600 Trudeau

00:13:22.560 On this appalling

00:13:24.200 Palestine

00:13:25.100 Recognition

00:13:26.200 Vote

00:13:26.960 Recognizing a state

00:13:28.500 Run by a terrorist

00:13:29.500 Entity

00:13:30.100 And Polyev

00:13:31.420 On the carbon tax

00:13:32.980 Confidence

00:13:33.900 Vote

00:13:34.940 Which failed

00:13:36.140 For different reasons

00:13:37.140 I wanted to get your

00:13:37.740 Take on both of these

00:13:38.900 Because it feels like

00:13:40.520 You know

00:13:40.940 They're still lingering

00:13:42.160 There's still

00:13:42.880 Implications

00:13:44.020 Of both

00:13:44.500 Moats

00:13:44.920 That are being felt

00:13:45.840 Do you think

00:13:46.880 That

00:13:47.160 Do you agree

00:13:47.900 That

00:13:48.280 What both leaders

00:13:50.000 Hoped to achieve

00:13:50.780 Was not achieved

00:13:51.620 Well

00:13:53.940 First off

00:13:54.840 The vote on

00:13:56.460 Gaza

00:13:56.980 That was put forward

00:13:57.840 By the NDP

00:13:58.620 And what

00:13:59.920 Did they achieve

00:14:01.060 Because

00:14:01.480 They let the liberals

00:14:02.560 Completely rewrite

00:14:03.800 Their motion

00:14:04.500 And

00:14:05.360 Water it down

00:14:06.740 It was a

00:14:08.160 Really bizarre

00:14:09.100 Day

00:14:10.320 You know

00:14:11.160 I've said

00:14:13.620 In

00:14:13.840 My 20 years

00:14:15.200 Of covering the hill

00:14:15.900 Off and on

00:14:16.340 I don't remember

00:14:16.980 A day

00:14:17.300 So chaotic

00:14:18.380 The negotiations

00:14:19.280 Were on

00:14:19.800 They were off

00:14:20.300 They were on

00:14:20.720 They were off

00:14:21.180 Voting is supposed

00:14:22.080 To begin at 7.15

00:14:23.280 And at 7.13

00:14:24.520 Steve McKinnon

00:14:25.360 Liberal House leader

00:14:26.700 Stands up and says

00:14:27.700 Mr. Speaker

00:14:29.520 I have some amendments

00:14:30.980 And then reads

00:14:32.400 14 of them

00:14:33.460 Including getting rid

00:14:35.020 Of the call

00:14:35.740 For

00:14:36.080 Officially recognizing

00:14:38.140 The state of Palestine

00:14:39.000 It's unclear

00:14:42.420 Whether there's

00:14:43.740 An arms embargo

00:14:44.440 Against Israel 0.94

00:14:45.200 The motion

00:14:45.660 Says there is

00:14:46.420 The

00:14:47.680 Melanie Jolie

00:14:48.780 Made it sound

00:14:49.560 Like there was

00:14:50.340 She made comments

00:14:51.840 To the Toronto Star

00:14:52.760 Saying yeah

00:14:53.320 This is it

00:14:54.040 The department

00:14:55.300 Saying different things

00:14:56.560 But nobody's

00:14:57.460 Getting arms exports

00:14:58.340 For Israel 0.61

00:14:59.060 So

00:14:59.800 You know

00:15:00.540 As I pointed out

00:15:01.260 In the column

00:15:01.660 We are literally

00:15:02.940 Buying military

00:15:04.280 Exactly

00:15:05.220 Lethal military equipment

00:15:06.620 And sending it to Ukraine 1.00

00:15:08.320 But we are blocking

00:15:10.160 Our

00:15:11.400 Other allies

00:15:12.560 At war

00:15:13.180 From buying

00:15:14.600 You know

00:15:15.840 Non-lethal

00:15:16.660 Military equipment

00:15:17.440 So like

00:15:18.060 That could include

00:15:18.780 Boots

00:15:19.300 For their soldiers

00:15:20.200 That could include

00:15:21.100 Ration packs

00:15:22.420 There's mass confusion

00:15:24.200 Over what

00:15:25.460 Canada's position

00:15:26.700 Actually is

00:15:27.320 And what we're doing

00:15:28.180 The

00:15:29.600 Negotiations

00:15:30.780 Were not successful

00:15:33.120 For most of the day

00:15:34.760 And then when they

00:15:35.320 Found something

00:15:36.000 If you want to know

00:15:37.660 Who's writing

00:15:38.180 Canadian foreign policy

00:15:39.840 Now it's the National

00:15:40.640 Council of Canadian Muslims

00:15:42.360 Who's said to the liberals

00:15:43.640 Yes we can live with that

00:15:44.960 It's not what we want

00:15:46.000 But we can live with this motion

00:15:47.320 And that's when they

00:15:48.480 Walked it onto the floor

00:15:49.340 Of the House of Commons

00:15:50.100 So late in the day

00:15:51.640 That

00:15:52.760 McKinnon's reading it up

00:15:54.560 You know

00:15:55.160 Off his

00:15:55.620 Printer

00:15:56.460 Sheets

00:15:57.660 And there's no French 1.00

00:15:59.100 The bloc stood up

00:16:00.140 And said we can't vote for this

00:16:01.320 We don't even have it in French

00:16:04.020 And then they had to

00:16:05.520 Suspend the House

00:16:06.520 While they figured out

00:16:09.240 If the motion was even

00:16:10.160 Valid

00:16:11.180 So I

00:16:11.640 I don't know what it

00:16:12.620 Accomplished for

00:16:13.540 For anyone

00:16:14.580 Now what about the

00:16:17.260 Polyev one

00:16:17.940 Did he accomplish

00:16:18.820 What he wanted to do

00:16:20.040 Like my problem with it

00:16:21.740 Is it

00:16:22.120 There was this big

00:16:23.260 Wind up to it

00:16:24.200 We thought something big

00:16:25.200 Was going to happen

00:16:26.060 And because we already

00:16:27.400 Knew that the bloc

00:16:28.300 And the NDP

00:16:28.900 Supported the carbon tax

00:16:30.460 So like at the end

00:16:31.820 Of the vote

00:16:32.280 Okay so

00:16:33.220 The NDP and the bloc

00:16:34.760 Still support the carbon tax

00:16:36.220 Like what's the big deal

00:16:37.900 And Polyev didn't even

00:16:38.840 Show up for the final vote

00:16:39.900 To me it really

00:16:40.640 Was a lot of

00:16:41.540 Lunchbag letdown

00:16:42.960 I like that term

00:16:45.840 The only thing

00:16:48.240 It accomplished

00:16:48.780 Is it

00:16:49.420 It got people

00:16:50.740 Talking about

00:16:51.480 The carbon tax

00:16:52.280 In a non-confidence vote

00:16:53.560 It got everyone

00:16:54.900 On the record

00:16:55.560 And now we're

00:16:56.280 In a break week

00:16:56.900 We're headed to Easter

00:16:57.760 And on Easter Monday

00:16:59.060 The carbon tax

00:17:00.540 Goes up by 23%

00:17:01.980 And Polyev will have

00:17:03.760 Everyone talking about it

00:17:05.040 Over the Easter break

00:17:05.840 With their families

00:17:06.520 And knowing exactly

00:17:07.720 Who to blame

00:17:08.380 You know

00:17:10.240 I get emails

00:17:11.160 All the time

00:17:11.760 This government's awful

00:17:13.280 Why isn't there

00:17:14.000 A carbon

00:17:14.340 Why isn't there

00:17:15.460 A non-confidence vote

00:17:16.460 And sometimes

00:17:16.880 I'll write back

00:17:17.540 To people

00:17:17.940 And I'll say

00:17:18.480 Well here's why

00:17:20.880 You know

00:17:21.520 Only the conservatives

00:17:22.380 Want to defeat them

00:17:23.380 They need

00:17:24.040 All three opposition

00:17:26.120 Parties

00:17:26.620 To vote

00:17:27.320 Sometimes people

00:17:28.500 Write back

00:17:28.940 And say

00:17:29.180 Oh thanks

00:17:29.580 I didn't quite

00:17:30.100 Understand how it works

00:17:31.320 Other times

00:17:32.160 People will write back

00:17:33.120 And say

00:17:33.340 I don't care

00:17:33.900 You should call it anyway

00:17:34.740 Even though

00:17:35.700 He's going to lose

00:17:36.280 So it might have been

00:17:37.600 Appealing to those folks

00:17:38.720 A bit

00:17:39.000 Really

00:17:40.040 It was political theater

00:17:41.480 But let me tell you

00:17:43.360 I did a bunch of

00:17:44.160 Talk right through

00:17:44.760 This week on it

00:17:45.560 So it was political theater

00:17:47.080 That people were watching

00:17:48.180 And paying attention to

00:17:49.440 And talking about

00:17:51.060 So

00:17:51.940 You know

00:17:53.040 There was

00:17:53.960 There was no chance

00:17:55.320 Of that motion

00:17:55.980 Passing

00:17:56.940 That's why Trudeau

00:17:57.580 Didn't show up

00:17:58.160 To defend his government

00:17:59.660 From imminent defeat

00:18:00.760 And it's why

00:18:01.500 Pauliev was in Toronto

00:18:02.660 At a fundraiser

00:18:04.300 So let me ask you

00:18:05.600 About that

00:18:06.040 Just quick

00:18:07.300 Quick story

00:18:08.480 About the fundraiser

00:18:09.240 I texted somebody

00:18:10.500 I know

00:18:10.840 Who goes to

00:18:11.720 These sorts of things

00:18:12.500 And said

00:18:12.920 Are you going to

00:18:14.680 Pauliev's fundraiser

00:18:16.720 And the response was

00:18:18.360 Oh no

00:18:19.220 There's too many

00:18:20.260 Of them these days

00:18:21.100 The guy is hotter 0.98

00:18:22.220 Than a virgin 0.99

00:18:23.180 In a warhouse

00:18:23.880 Right now

00:18:24.320 The

00:18:27.200 The

00:18:28.320 The

00:18:28.920 The

00:18:28.980 The

00:18:29.820 Increase

00:18:30.460 In the carbon tax

00:18:31.600 Is taking place

00:18:32.380 On April 1st

00:18:33.680 Appropriately

00:18:34.420 What does that mean

00:18:38.240 And I

00:18:38.880 This is an unfair question

00:18:40.000 But

00:18:41.020 You're better at numbers

00:18:42.140 Than I am

00:18:42.720 What does that mean

00:18:43.880 In terms of

00:18:44.580 What we're paying

00:18:45.300 At the pumps

00:18:45.940 Like what's the change

00:18:47.200 That's going to take place

00:18:48.340 This

00:18:49.160 You know

00:18:49.520 20 plus percent

00:18:50.760 Increase

00:18:51.840 That's about to

00:18:52.780 Hit

00:18:53.200 What will that mean

00:18:54.880 For your average

00:18:56.260 Joe and Jane

00:18:57.020 Front porch

00:18:57.700 I don't have

00:19:00.480 That exact number

00:19:01.880 In front of me

00:19:02.540 Right now

00:19:02.940 But

00:19:03.180 Total

00:19:03.880 The carbon tax

00:19:04.800 Will go up

00:19:05.300 From

00:19:05.720 Sixty-five

00:19:08.400 Dollars

00:19:09.240 Per ton

00:19:09.900 To

00:19:11.140 Eighty dollars

00:19:12.960 A ton

00:19:13.300 And

00:19:14.680 And so

00:19:15.140 That's the

00:19:15.540 Twenty-three percent

00:19:16.300 Increase

00:19:16.740 I believe

00:19:17.760 It's going to be

00:19:18.880 It might be close

00:19:19.900 To

00:19:20.140 To ten cents

00:19:21.340 On a liter

00:19:21.800 But

00:19:22.220 Don't hold me

00:19:23.140 To that

00:19:23.400 That's what I had read

00:19:24.920 And I was just

00:19:26.100 Trying to figure out

00:19:27.060 You know

00:19:27.300 Because it's different

00:19:28.040 The price per liter

00:19:29.380 Is different

00:19:29.880 In different parts

00:19:30.440 Of the country

00:19:30.920 And there's all

00:19:32.020 Kinds of factors

00:19:32.840 But it sounds

00:19:33.960 To me like

00:19:34.620 People

00:19:35.100 Will actually

00:19:36.380 Notice it

00:19:37.720 I think they decided

00:19:39.120 To bring the thing

00:19:39.880 In on April 1st

00:19:40.800 Because you know

00:19:41.420 People are using

00:19:42.280 Are going to start

00:19:43.100 Using heating oil

00:19:44.240 And gas

00:19:45.800 And all that

00:19:46.260 Kind of stuff

00:19:46.860 Less than they

00:19:47.740 Were during the

00:19:48.700 Winter months

00:19:49.380 But I don't

00:19:50.580 Think they're

00:19:50.940 Going to get

00:19:51.300 Away with

00:19:51.880 The old

00:19:52.300 Switcheroo

00:19:53.020 At the

00:19:53.540 Pumps

00:19:54.400 When people

00:19:54.860 Go to fill

00:19:55.400 Up

00:19:55.720 So I guess

00:19:56.360 We'll watch

00:19:57.040 That

00:19:57.280 So

00:19:58.560 Interesting to

00:20:00.420 Note

00:20:00.760 Is that

00:20:02.300 Saskatchewan

00:20:04.860 So the

00:20:05.320 Consumer price

00:20:06.800 Index

00:20:07.260 Went up

00:20:08.280 By 2.8%

00:20:09.480 These are the

00:20:10.220 Numbers that

00:20:10.680 Satscan just

00:20:11.340 Put out over

00:20:11.860 The last week

00:20:12.480 It only went

00:20:14.300 Up by

00:20:14.620 1.7%

00:20:15.960 In Saskatchewan

00:20:16.980 And apparently

00:20:18.560 That is due

00:20:19.140 In part to

00:20:19.780 The government's

00:20:20.660 Decision

00:20:21.100 To stop

00:20:22.880 Charging the

00:20:23.820 Carbon tax

00:20:24.380 On home

00:20:25.420 Heating

00:20:25.720 Saskatchewan

00:20:27.160 Is 0.88

00:20:27.680 I think

00:20:29.220 85% of

00:20:30.180 The homes

00:20:31.000 In the province

00:20:31.600 Are heated

00:20:32.500 With natural

00:20:33.060 Gas from a

00:20:33.680 Crown corporation

00:20:34.420 So Scott

00:20:35.740 Moe said

00:20:36.300 Well you're not

00:20:36.780 Charging it for

00:20:37.660 Home heating

00:20:38.260 Oil in

00:20:38.920 Atlantic Canada

00:20:39.720 My people

00:20:40.660 Shouldn't have

00:20:41.120 To pay it

00:20:41.560 So he just

00:20:42.040 Stopped charging

00:20:42.620 It

00:20:42.840 If you want

00:20:44.240 To know

00:20:44.420 The impact

00:20:44.920 Of the

00:20:45.140 Carbon tax

00:20:45.820 Inflation

00:20:47.000 Is lower

00:20:48.760 In Saskatchewan

00:20:50.140 Than it is

00:20:50.680 Across the

00:20:51.240 Rest of the

00:20:51.780 Country

00:20:52.120 Because he

00:20:53.180 Stopped charging

00:20:53.780 The carbon

00:20:54.640 Tax on

00:20:55.080 Home heating

00:20:55.520 The government

00:20:56.360 Wants to tell

00:20:57.000 You it has

00:20:57.560 No impact

00:20:58.200 On inflation

00:20:59.800 Or the cost

00:21:01.160 Of living

00:21:01.600 And you

00:21:03.220 Know it's

00:21:04.260 Just you

00:21:05.080 Can't keep

00:21:05.660 Increasing the

00:21:06.360 Price of things

00:21:06.980 And saying

00:21:07.540 It has no

00:21:08.340 Impact on

00:21:08.820 Inflation

00:21:09.520 Yes it

00:21:09.880 Clearly does

00:21:10.540 Well the

00:21:11.400 Thing is

00:21:11.720 Dead as a

00:21:12.440 Doornail

00:21:12.960 As far as

00:21:13.700 I'm concerned

00:21:14.220 I don't

00:21:14.540 Understand why

00:21:15.160 They're

00:21:15.440 Picking this 0.99

00:21:16.260 Hill to die

00:21:16.860 On but 0.68

00:21:17.280 That's what

00:21:17.860 The liberals

00:21:18.200 Are doing

00:21:18.600 This week

00:21:19.800 President Biden

00:21:22.440 Did something

00:21:23.280 That a leader

00:21:23.940 Should do

00:21:24.560 I'm biased

00:21:25.640 On the guy

00:21:26.180 But he

00:21:27.080 Said you

00:21:27.500 Know what

00:21:27.960 UNRWA

00:21:29.520 Is not

00:21:30.300 Going to

00:21:30.560 Get a

00:21:31.100 Nickel out

00:21:31.760 Of the

00:21:31.980 United States

00:21:32.580 Of America 0.61

00:21:33.200 For at

00:21:34.000 Least a

00:21:34.480 Year

00:21:34.800 That's what

00:21:35.800 He did

00:21:36.260 In Canada

00:21:36.980 We went

00:21:37.500 Ahead

00:21:37.880 And continued

00:21:38.720 To fund

00:21:39.320 This

00:21:39.700 Organization

00:21:40.320 That has

00:21:41.360 Been

00:21:41.540 Credibly

00:21:42.040 Linked

00:21:42.380 To the

00:21:42.680 Atrocities

00:21:43.280 Of October

00:21:43.820 7th

00:21:44.820 To me

00:21:45.680 It was

00:21:46.200 Really a

00:21:46.700 Stark

00:21:47.060 Difference

00:21:47.600 Between

00:21:47.980 The styles

00:21:48.600 Of leadership

00:21:49.080 Of Biden

00:21:49.620 And Trudeau

00:21:50.140 What did

00:21:50.660 You think

00:21:51.120 Correct me

00:21:52.720 If I'm

00:21:53.040 Wrong

00:21:53.240 It wasn't

00:21:53.720 Just Biden

00:21:54.300 This got

00:21:55.240 Bipartisan

00:21:56.260 Support in

00:21:56.920 The House

00:21:57.200 And Senate

00:21:57.520 Wasn't it

00:21:57.940 A continuing

00:21:58.520 Resolution

00:21:59.240 Yes sir

00:22:00.260 So that's

00:22:01.720 Like voting

00:22:02.500 For the

00:22:04.160 Businesses

00:22:04.680 Supply in

00:22:05.200 Canada

00:22:05.480 You're voting

00:22:06.080 For the

00:22:07.320 Government

00:22:07.580 To spend

00:22:08.040 Certain sums

00:22:08.600 Of money

00:22:08.960 So it

00:22:09.700 Passed

00:22:10.020 The House

00:22:10.300 It passed

00:22:10.700 The Senate

00:22:11.080 And Biden

00:22:11.640 Proudly

00:22:12.160 Signed it

00:22:12.720 Kudos to

00:22:13.940 Everyone

00:22:14.320 That did

00:22:15.220 That

00:22:15.520 I think

00:22:16.240 It's

00:22:16.440 Great

00:22:16.800 Unfortunately

00:22:19.020 We

00:22:19.860 The vote

00:22:21.480 That we

00:22:21.760 Had on

00:22:22.120 Monday

00:22:22.460 Included

00:22:23.680 A section

00:22:24.740 About restoring

00:22:25.540 Funding to

00:22:26.180 UNRWA

00:22:26.820 And the

00:22:27.760 Majority of

00:22:28.480 MPs

00:22:29.040 In the

00:22:29.440 House of

00:22:29.740 Commons 0.69

00:22:30.020 Voted for

00:22:30.440 I could

00:22:30.840 Not believe

00:22:31.340 Some of

00:22:31.740 The

00:22:31.920 Liberal

00:22:32.340 MP

00:22:32.660 That voted

00:22:33.300 For that

00:22:33.740 Motion

00:22:34.060 On Monday

00:22:34.580 It's

00:22:35.220 Disgraceful

00:22:36.060 So some

00:22:36.580 Of whom

00:22:36.960 Yeah

00:22:37.300 This will

00:22:37.840 Shock

00:22:38.160 People to

00:22:39.000 Hear me

00:22:39.240 Say it

00:22:39.540 Some of

00:22:39.900 Whom I

00:22:40.280 Know and

00:22:40.700 Like

00:22:41.060 But I

00:22:43.400 Do

00:22:43.680 You know

00:22:44.160 You know

00:22:44.880 People on

00:22:45.340 Various

00:22:45.720 Levels

00:22:46.640 And some

00:22:47.280 Of them

00:22:47.500 I was

00:22:47.760 Just shocked

00:22:48.300 That they

00:22:48.620 Did it

00:22:49.000 But so

00:22:50.920 Kudos to

00:22:51.400 Anthony

00:22:51.720 Housefather

00:22:52.340 Kudos to

00:22:53.560 Marco

00:22:53.800 Mendocino

00:22:54.440 Kudos to

00:22:55.200 Ben Carr

00:22:55.620 For voting

00:22:56.060 Against it

00:22:56.620 And for

00:22:57.420 Biden

00:22:57.800 And everyone

00:22:58.800 Down at

00:22:59.620 U.S.

00:23:00.020 Congress

00:23:00.340 That said

00:23:00.920 No more

00:23:01.860 To UNRWA

00:23:02.320 Good on

00:23:03.240 You

00:23:03.480 Well done

00:23:04.140 What do

00:23:04.940 You think

00:23:05.160 Is going

00:23:05.420 To happen

00:23:05.720 To House

00:23:06.100 Father

00:23:06.380 I've gotten

00:23:06.780 A lot

00:23:07.140 Of notes

00:23:07.620 I know

00:23:07.960 You have

00:23:08.460 As well

00:23:08.920 From people

00:23:09.560 In the

00:23:09.780 Jewish

00:23:09.980 Community

00:23:10.340 And otherwise

00:23:10.960 Saying

00:23:12.080 You know

00:23:12.420 It looked

00:23:12.760 Like he

00:23:13.080 Was just

00:23:13.400 Torn apart

00:23:14.180 By what

00:23:15.380 Took place

00:23:15.860 In the

00:23:16.080 House of

00:23:16.400 Commons 0.69

00:23:16.660 This week

00:23:17.300 And so

00:23:18.480 Upset

00:23:19.120 You know

00:23:19.440 I think

00:23:19.820 He's really

00:23:20.740 Revealed

00:23:21.200 Himself

00:23:21.520 To be a

00:23:22.060 Pretty

00:23:22.220 Courageous

00:23:22.900 Guy

00:23:23.240 Mount Royal

00:23:25.240 Sheila

00:23:25.980 Feinstone's

00:23:26.660 Former writing

00:23:27.340 It's about

00:23:28.000 As liberal

00:23:28.440 As it gets

00:23:29.220 Sheila

00:23:30.380 Feinstone

00:23:30.980 Pierre

00:23:31.380 Trudeau

00:23:32.020 Irwin

00:23:32.420 Kotler

00:23:32.960 Exactly

00:23:33.860 So what if

00:23:34.500 He decides

00:23:35.340 To run

00:23:35.720 As an

00:23:36.040 Independent

00:23:36.520 Because it

00:23:37.060 Doesn't look

00:23:37.800 Like the

00:23:38.100 Liberal Party

00:23:38.660 Is his

00:23:39.060 Home anymore

00:23:39.880 Or would

00:23:41.520 The Conservatives

00:23:42.160 Take him

00:23:42.780 Like what do you

00:23:43.560 Think is going

00:23:44.000 To happen

00:23:44.340 To Anthony

00:23:44.920 I think

00:23:46.560 He's not a

00:23:49.760 Conservative

00:23:50.200 I had him

00:23:52.460 On the

00:23:52.700 Full

00:23:52.860 Comment

00:23:53.220 Podcast

00:23:53.640 A couple

00:23:54.120 Of weeks

00:23:54.460 Ago

00:23:54.760 But he

00:23:57.360 Split from

00:23:57.940 His party

00:23:58.400 In two

00:23:58.860 Different

00:23:59.100 Ways

00:23:59.300 When I

00:23:59.560 First met

00:24:00.080 Anthony

00:24:00.540 In

00:24:01.180 2000

00:24:02.540 Early

00:24:02.960 2001

00:24:03.760 I met

00:24:05.420 Him

00:24:05.540 Because he

00:24:05.900 Was involved

00:24:06.300 In English

00:24:07.020 Language

00:24:07.520 Rights

00:24:07.840 In

00:24:08.060 Quebec

00:24:08.680 He was

00:24:10.600 Not an

00:24:10.940 Activist

00:24:11.360 For the

00:24:12.860 Jewish

00:24:13.080 Community

00:24:13.420 They're

00:24:13.700 Obviously

00:24:14.120 A part

00:24:14.560 Of it

00:24:14.820 But his

00:24:15.840 Main

00:24:16.180 Thing was

00:24:16.840 English

00:24:17.200 Language

00:24:17.540 Rights

00:24:17.820 And the

00:24:18.100 Liberals

00:24:18.520 Have dropped

00:24:19.780 The ball

00:24:20.140 On that

00:24:20.600 They

00:24:20.860 You know

00:24:21.580 When I

00:24:22.160 Lived in

00:24:22.440 Montreal

00:24:22.780 I used

00:24:23.200 To love

00:24:23.540 Your boss

00:24:24.080 Standing up

00:24:24.900 To the

00:24:25.140 Separatists 0.94

00:24:25.600 Who would

00:24:26.020 Provincially

00:24:27.200 And federally

00:24:27.700 Who would

00:24:27.940 Always demand

00:24:28.440 That English 1.00

00:24:28.840 Be quashed

00:24:29.320 By the

00:24:29.620 Federal

00:24:29.820 Government

00:24:30.140 They would

00:24:31.360 Complain

00:24:31.780 About English

00:24:32.460 On the

00:24:32.880 Federal

00:24:33.140 Bridges

00:24:33.600 Going from

00:24:34.080 The

00:24:34.300 Montreal

00:24:34.740 To the

00:24:35.080 South

00:24:35.240 Shore

00:24:35.540 And

00:24:35.820 English

00:24:36.620 In

00:24:36.860 Federal

00:24:37.200 Workplaces

00:24:37.840 And your

00:24:38.180 Boss

00:24:38.420 Would say

00:24:38.780 Go

00:24:39.520 Pound

00:24:39.760 Sand

00:24:40.060 The

00:24:42.120 Conservatives

00:24:42.720 Can't

00:24:43.020 Get a

00:24:43.380 Vote

00:24:43.580 On the

00:24:44.220 Island

00:24:44.420 Of

00:24:44.580 Montreal

00:24:44.860 To

00:24:45.060 Save

00:24:45.220 Their

00:24:45.400 Lives

00:24:45.640 So

00:24:45.820 They

00:24:45.960 Long

00:24:46.240 Ago

00:24:46.500 Stop

00:24:47.020 Caring

00:24:47.380 About

00:24:47.620 The

00:24:47.760 Issue

00:24:48.000 Because

00:24:48.660 They're

00:24:49.540 Never

00:24:49.740 Going to

00:24:50.100 Get a

00:24:50.320 Vote

00:24:50.440 From

00:24:50.620 The

00:24:50.740 English

00:24:50.960 Community

00:24:51.460 If

00:24:52.340 House

00:24:52.540 Father

00:24:52.800 Goes

00:24:53.120 Over

00:24:53.360 To

00:24:53.480 The

00:24:53.580 Conservatives

00:24:54.180 I

00:24:54.700 Think

00:24:54.920 He's

00:24:55.120 Done

00:24:55.380 You know

00:24:57.580 They

00:24:57.820 The

00:24:58.440 Conservatives

00:24:59.020 Ran

00:24:59.540 A great

00:25:00.020 Candidate

00:25:00.880 In

00:25:01.220 That

00:25:01.600 Riding

00:25:01.940 Several

00:25:02.260 Years

00:25:02.520 Ago

00:25:02.700 Robert

00:25:03.020 Libman

00:25:03.420 Former

00:25:03.740 Mayor

00:25:04.080 St.

00:25:04.580 Luke

00:25:04.760 Former

00:25:05.320 Head of

00:25:06.020 B'nai

00:25:06.220 Birth

00:25:06.520 In

00:25:06.700 Quebec

00:25:07.060 Equality

00:25:08.360 Quebec

00:25:09.160 The

00:25:10.420 English

00:25:11.760 Fairness

00:25:12.260 The

00:25:13.200 Equality

00:25:13.600 Party

00:25:13.960 Yeah

00:25:14.200 And so

00:25:15.540 A guy

00:25:15.780 With

00:25:16.040 A lot

00:25:16.900 Of

00:25:17.000 Respect

00:25:17.460 In

00:25:17.700 The

00:25:17.840 Community

00:25:18.280 And

00:25:19.800 He

00:25:19.920 Went

00:25:20.080 Nowhere

00:25:20.420 Up

00:25:21.640 Against

00:25:21.900 Erwin

00:25:22.260 Kotler

00:25:22.680 Anthony

00:25:25.600 I think

00:25:26.120 Could win

00:25:26.860 As an

00:25:27.300 Independent

00:25:27.920 Liberal

00:25:28.360 If he

00:25:28.680 Called

00:25:28.880 Himself

00:25:29.140 That

00:25:29.500 Because

00:25:30.620 In

00:25:30.760 His

00:25:30.880 Hard

00:25:31.040 Of

00:25:31.160 Hearts

00:25:31.380 He's

00:25:31.680 Still

00:25:32.440 Very

00:25:32.720 Much

00:25:33.020 A

00:25:33.560 Liberal

00:25:33.840 But

00:25:36.700 On

00:25:37.560 Both

00:25:37.960 Israel

00:25:38.400 And

00:25:38.900 English

00:25:39.240 Language

00:25:39.580 Rights

00:25:39.880 He

00:25:40.040 Separated

00:25:40.500 From

00:25:40.740 His

00:25:40.880 Party

00:25:41.240 I

00:25:42.480 Think

00:25:42.680 If

00:25:42.860 He

00:25:43.060 Sat

00:25:43.700 As

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00:32:23.160 This is CFRA Live

00:32:28.560 Sunday Political Panel

00:32:30.320 And welcome to it. Happy Sunday. It is time for our Sunday Political Panel. Joining us on the phone this morning is Carl Belanger. He is the president of Traction Strategies. Carl, good morning. Thanks for joining us.

00:32:42.100 Good morning, Andrew.

00:32:44.100 Carl is here. He is a strategist and post-media columnist as well. Warren, good morning.

00:32:48.100 Morning, guys.

00:32:48.840 And Tasha Carradine will return next week. That is my mistake here on our panel. So I'll play our true blue conservative here. We were just listening to some clips from yesterday's touching tributes to the former Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney. Caroline Mulroney giving a very touching tribute to her father as well. A politician in her own right. Just wondering what you took away from yesterday's service, Carl, in watching some of those speeches.

00:33:14.240 Well, I mean, it was a grand ceremony and very touching at times. The highlight for me was when Brian Mulroney's granddaughter went to the microphone to sing the Prime Minister's favorite song.

00:33:30.720 And I think there was not a dry eye in the audience, certainly in those watching. What was interesting is the diverse horizon of people that pay tribute to him politically and from the economic horizon, from sports.

00:33:49.500 You know, with Wayne Gretzky, you know, with Wayne Gretzky that was there. You had Pierre-Carle Pelladeau, which was a business partner with Mulroney, but also a Parti Québécois leader who was there.

00:34:01.280 Jean Charest, of course, was there.

00:34:02.960 And I think what you saw in this play is a man that, while using a lot of political capital in office, left a lasting legacy that people today remember fondly, even though at the time they were not so fond of him when he left office.

00:34:23.140 Yeah, time has definitely helped repair some of those perceptions of Warren, as Carl mentioned, kind of a wide array here.

00:34:30.720 I was also going to add that while he was lying in state here, we did have a number of, you know, Canadians coming to pay their respects as well.

00:34:36.380 I guess does all of these tributes just kind of speak to Mr. Mulroney's wider legacy?

00:34:41.340 Yeah, for sure.

00:34:42.080 And, you know, it was grand and sweeping and well done, you know, much like every announcement the guy did when he was prime minister.

00:34:54.100 But I kind of prefer to remember guys like him when they were alive.

00:34:59.420 Like, it just, it feels, it's just so weird that he's gone, you know, and I said this to a couple of his sons.

00:35:06.360 Like, he was one of those politicians, whether you liked him or not, where you felt he was going to be around forever, you know, occasionally chiming in on, you know, events that are taking place, you know, not being too critical of any of his successors.

00:35:22.580 Like, he's been there since he left public office in 93, and it's just this constant in our consciousness.

00:35:32.880 So, to me, it's just so weird that he's gone.

00:35:37.760 We were certainly reminded yesterday about his achievements.

00:35:41.220 To me, when I was writing his obituary for Post Media, I said, you know, he took risks, right?

00:35:47.800 It's easy to be a politician if you don't take risks, you know, if you play it safe.

00:35:51.760 And this guy didn't play it safe, you know, from Meech Lake to Free Trade to South Africa.

00:35:59.060 You know, he always took a risk, and those are the great ones, the ones who aren't prepared to just, you know, sit on their hands and let time go by.

00:36:09.340 He wanted to do things, and, you know, I didn't agree with quite a few of the things that he wanted to do, but he tried.

00:36:15.760 And I think that's his greatest legacy, is he was a politician who had guts, and he was prepared to take risks.

00:36:23.820 Yeah, and something that Jean Charest touched on yesterday as well, calling him, you know, courageous with some of his political decisions.

00:36:29.420 But I think it's definitely a good way to put it weird.

00:36:31.620 It feels like he was part of the furniture for so many decades here in Canada, and now he's gone.

00:36:36.960 So it is a strange feeling.

00:36:38.220 The Prime Minister laid to rest yesterday, of course.

00:36:42.820 Moving on to a couple of other stories.

00:36:45.260 This week into the news, let me see here.

00:36:48.160 We'll start with this one here, because obviously it is one of the most contentious.

00:36:51.220 But the government's endorsement of an amended Palestinian statehood motion wins praise.

00:36:55.300 It draws outrage.

00:36:56.160 That is the headline this week.

00:36:57.280 We heard from Anthony Housefather this week.

00:36:59.000 He has been opposed to the Liberals' position on this, going so far as to say, you know, he may be courted by other parties.

00:37:05.920 Warren, I'll start with you on this one.

00:37:07.120 And has the government found the balance here, or is it risking kind of alienating its own caucus?

00:37:13.520 No, they have found no balance, and it's not working for them.

00:37:17.420 Like, you know, the shorthand calculus, which is despicable, but, you know, Jews in Canada are only about 300,000,

00:37:27.060 and the Muslim contingency, you know, vote contingent is about four times that big, okay?

00:37:34.880 And so you get people saying, oh, well, they're doing this because the non-Jewish vote is so much bigger.

00:37:42.040 But I don't think that's true, because they've got the Muslim community mad at them, too.

00:37:47.440 In fact, they've got leadership in the Muslim community saying, don't even come to our mosques during your election because we're so mad at you.

00:37:53.760 Like, the government, whatever they're doing, is not motivated by any kind of strategy or common sense, because they've got everybody mad at them.

00:38:03.820 And this, you know, statehood motion is an example of that.

00:38:07.580 Like, how do you recognize a state that's governed by a terrorist entity that you yourself listed as a terrorist entity?

00:38:15.180 Like, how do you do that?

00:38:17.420 And you can't, you know?

00:38:19.660 And so we see in the United States yesterday, the president signed an executive order saying that there would be no funding of UNRWA for at least a year

00:38:28.560 until they get to the bottom of what UNRWA was doing.

00:38:32.160 Meanwhile, in Canada, alone in the world, practically, we've announced that we're going to keep funding them.

00:38:38.220 Like, the government's just all over the map on this thing, and it's not working.

00:38:42.880 It's like alienating every constituency in the country, and it's, well, it's yet another thing that's pulling them down.

00:38:51.040 The UNRWA aspect, a very good point, just in terms of, you know, we resumed funding a couple of weeks ago,

00:38:56.800 but it's kind of on the heels of the prime minister facing some domestic political pressure from those protests here at home as well.

00:39:03.580 So it's definitely a good issue to raise.

00:39:05.100 I guess, Carl, as I talked about, you know, Anthony Housefire kind of, you know, echoing a lot of what Warren is saying in terms of the Liberals' stance on this,

00:39:13.720 I was kind of thinking, if you're not making any side happy, did you find the balance, or have the Liberals completely missed the mark on this?

00:39:21.940 Well, what's interesting to me is that the NEP, which put forward the original motion that was calling for the government to officially recognize the state of Palestine,

00:39:31.540 you know, played ball with the government to see how far they would go.

00:39:38.100 And the government brought this 11th hour amendment, didn't consult with caucus, they didn't talk to anyone,

00:39:44.540 they were trying to, you know, kind of save face and protect their, you know,

00:39:49.280 the wing of the caucus and the party and the voters who are more on the Palestinian side of the issue.

00:39:57.120 And in doing so, ended up with a divided caucus.

00:40:01.100 And Anthony Housefire is one of them, but there's others.

00:40:03.740 And in that sense, the fact that the NEP made that move was, I don't know if it was on purpose,

00:40:08.400 but very cunning, because the NEP is united on the issue, the conservatives are united on the issue,

00:40:14.380 the one party that's divided is the Liberal Party.

00:40:16.860 And you see those cracks happening, and you see the NEP is musing publicly about crossing the floor to another party on this issue.

00:40:26.020 So, it's a lot of damage internally, for sure.

00:40:29.960 And as Warren outlined, like, out there, the perception is that the Liberal government doesn't know what it wants to do,

00:40:36.080 and doesn't know its position, which is why you ended up with that last minute,

00:40:39.740 these last minute amendments, which, you know, on the other side,

00:40:43.400 made the NEP look reasonable, because they accepted the amendments of the government.

00:40:46.540 So, of course, they come out of this as a, you know, as a winner politically.

00:40:52.200 But at the end of the day, we shouldn't probably, we shouldn't play games with this issue.

00:40:56.740 And that's what we saw, I thought.

00:40:59.860 No way that politicians are playing games with issues.

00:41:03.320 I don't believe that.

00:41:04.080 But, well, it falls right into my next one, in terms of, obviously,

00:41:08.400 Pierre Pauly of bringing forward that non-confidence motion this week.

00:41:11.480 Even, you know, some of his most ardent supporters here on the text board are saying,

00:41:14.860 like, they understand that, you know, this was all a show,

00:41:17.940 and it just kind of wants to bring attention to the carbon tax and issues like that.

00:41:21.740 Warren, I'm just kind of wondering, in general,

00:41:23.300 do you think the carbon tax is an issue that Pierre can win on?

00:41:27.920 Well, he sure thinks so. 1.00

00:41:29.420 And I just, let me say, in my typically subtle way, what he did this week was stupid. 0.99

00:41:36.460 He, like, for a week, for actually for longer than a week, he'd been suggesting to people 0.99

00:41:41.700 that he was going to bring down the government, have this non-confidence motion,

00:41:45.200 and it was a big deal.

00:41:46.260 And all of us were looking at it going, well, wait a second.

00:41:49.800 Maybe he's got the NDP on side.

00:41:51.500 Maybe something big's going to happen.

00:41:53.380 Like, maybe the NDP's changed his position, or the bloc, or both.

00:41:57.460 Like, something big's going to happen.

00:41:59.320 Instead, we have this vote, and the result of it, the takeaway was,

00:42:05.220 well, the NDP and the bloc support carbon tax.

00:42:07.840 Well, duh.

00:42:08.620 They always have.

00:42:10.120 And number two, Polyev didn't even show up for his own final vote.

00:42:14.380 He wasn't even there.

00:42:15.260 He was at a fundraiser in Toronto. 1.00

00:42:17.220 It was stupid. 1.00

00:42:18.540 It was a total waste of political capital. 1.00

00:42:21.480 Like, all of us, in the media at least, thought something significant was going to happen,

00:42:25.680 and nothing did.

00:42:26.700 It was just reminding us about what we already knew.

00:42:29.680 I guess, Carl, to Warren's point, I guess, you know, with the media,

00:42:33.380 we were talking about it, we were thinking something was going to happen.

00:42:35.940 Is that at least a win for Pierre Polyev's camp on this issue this week?

00:42:40.220 Well, tactically, it was a loss, because, you know, you go into the House of Commons

00:42:45.980 with the plan to bring down the government, and you make noise about it,

00:42:50.920 and you have this motion, and you lose that motion, which, you know, kind of forced the NDP,

00:42:55.580 which was, I think, a foregone conclusion, but also the Bloc Québécois to stand up

00:43:03.780 and give confidence into the government.

00:43:06.040 So, ahead of the budget, I didn't think it was the best of move, but strategically,

00:43:12.340 I guess, you know, we did talk about the carbon tax for another week.

00:43:16.700 It was at the top of the political agenda for another week.

00:43:20.200 And so, if the Conservatives think this is a winner, and so far they believe it's a winner,

00:43:24.460 and so far the poll shows that it's a winner,

00:43:26.280 strategically, it kind of made sense to make more noise with this kind of issue.

00:43:31.100 But they've played that card now.

00:43:33.060 They cannot bring back another motion of confidence based on the carbon tax again and again and again, 0.99

00:43:38.260 because then they start to look silly.

00:43:39.660 And I think it might have been a little too early for them to play that card, 0.64

00:43:44.240 considering they had no dancing partner.

00:43:45.580 And we saw how it kind of ended, as we all suspected.

00:43:50.080 So, we'll see kind of how the carbon tax, I guess, politics plays out.

00:43:53.200 There is a rally being held in Ottawa today.

00:43:55.540 Pierre Paulyov hosting an acts of tax rally here,

00:43:57.760 kind of re-upping that issue in the political forefront the last few weeks.

00:44:02.100 I wanted to get to another one.

00:44:03.020 Carl, you mentioned the budget was coming up.

00:44:04.420 One of the things that will cross the Deputy Prime Minister's,

00:44:06.880 or the Minister, the Finance Minister's table,

00:44:09.860 will be a food program, a national food program,

00:44:11.960 which I thought was kind of interesting right now.

00:44:13.600 I don't know how much of an appetite there is right now.

00:44:16.260 Carl, I'll start with you in terms of big spending projects

00:44:18.980 from this government in the current economy.

00:44:21.900 Would this be a good policy or a bad policy?

00:44:24.660 I guess the flip side being, you know,

00:44:26.340 feeding schoolchildren is a hard thing to vote against.

00:44:30.180 Exactly.

00:44:30.880 I mean, feeding schoolchildren that are struggling

00:44:33.860 because their parents are struggling in the current economy,

00:44:37.200 you know, a lot of people will say,

00:44:38.420 yeah, that makes a lot of sense,

00:44:40.440 until the jurisdiction problems that we've seen

00:44:43.360 in the past and we will see again

00:44:44.820 where provinces will say,

00:44:45.960 well, that doesn't work.

00:44:46.780 Just give us the money and we'll decide what we do.

00:44:49.320 Quebec will lead the way.

00:44:50.320 Alberta will jump aboard and there will be others.

00:44:52.740 We've just seen that with the Pharmacare plan

00:44:55.420 and we've seen it before.

00:44:57.780 So what otherwise doing is trying to

00:45:02.460 meddle into the provincial jurisdiction

00:45:04.920 to solve a problem that is not being fixed

00:45:07.180 by the provinces, you know, a few exceptions.

00:45:10.160 BC and Manitoba and Nova Scotia

00:45:11.840 being the ones that have launched,

00:45:13.940 you know, money towards food launch program

00:45:16.460 in the past year.

00:45:19.120 But there's no question that for voters,

00:45:21.820 these battles of jurisdictions don't really matter.

00:45:24.880 So if the Liberal government are looking

00:45:26.520 for a new initiative that will affect directly people

00:45:28.880 and they can somehow find a way to deliver it,

00:45:32.220 voters might be interested in that.

00:45:34.840 And this is the latest one,

00:45:36.040 we're in the food program,

00:45:36.880 but as Carl mentioned, Pharmacare,

00:45:38.320 there's been daycare, housing, healthcare,

00:45:40.340 all things that the federal government

00:45:41.440 has put up money with the provinces to.

00:45:43.440 Do you think there is an appetite

00:45:44.460 for a big spending program from voters right now?

00:45:47.760 Do I think there's an appetite?

00:45:49.060 Ba-doom, ba-doom.

00:45:50.140 Sorry.

00:45:51.420 Accidental joke there.

00:45:53.580 You said the same thing to Carl.

00:45:55.020 It's like, oh my God, that's an opportunity.

00:45:57.140 Like, it's just, it's never-ending circus,

00:46:00.360 this one with these guys.

00:46:01.460 You know, now they're saying they want the grocers

00:46:03.840 to come up with a plan to stabilize prices

00:46:06.340 and they have a plan to stabilize prices

00:46:09.320 and then they talked about a grocery tax threat

00:46:11.720 and boy, that makes a lot of sense.

00:46:13.720 And, you know, they wanted meetings

00:46:15.120 with the heads of the grocery chains

00:46:17.100 and on and on and on,

00:46:19.020 even to the point of suggesting

00:46:20.300 there was a conspiracy coming up with the proof.

00:46:24.000 Like, and Champagne running around

00:46:26.040 saying mission accomplished.

00:46:27.580 Like, tell that to Joe and Jane Front Porch

00:46:30.160 when they go to Loblaws

00:46:32.000 and they have to get a, you know, mortgage,

00:46:35.260 do a mortgage payment

00:46:37.060 in order to buy some beef or something.

00:46:39.340 Like, nobody believes it.

00:46:41.220 And, like, this is one of the problems

00:46:42.740 the Trudeau guys have had in recent years

00:46:45.780 is overselling and under-delivering.

00:46:48.940 And they just raise expectations

00:46:51.900 that they're going to make some meaningful change

00:46:55.080 and then they don't do it.

00:46:56.100 And that's the case with the grocery file,

00:46:58.780 the food file, the inflation file,

00:47:00.780 is they keep saying that they're going to make

00:47:03.240 some meaningful change in people's lives

00:47:05.100 and they don't deliver.

00:47:06.960 And so, you know,

00:47:08.880 I think it's really getting to be too late.

00:47:12.720 I think it's really, pardon me for saying so,

00:47:15.060 baked in.

00:47:15.780 And in that sense, too,

00:47:19.780 it's not a foregone conclusion,

00:47:21.820 not necessarily going to happen.

00:47:23.080 They could defer this and kick it down the can.

00:47:24.560 We just know that it is at the minister's desk

00:47:26.300 at this point.

00:47:27.060 So we will see what happens.

00:47:28.680 But Warren and Carl,

00:47:29.560 thank you so much for taking some time on Sunday.

00:47:31.360 I really appreciate it.

00:47:32.680 Always a pleasure.

00:47:33.900 Carl Belanger is the president

00:47:35.040 at Traction Strategies.

00:47:36.020 Warren Kinsella, strategist and post-media columnist.

00:47:38.780 And our lovely third panelist,

00:47:41.720 Tasha Karaden, will join us coming up next week.

00:47:44.040 My math will be much better then.

00:47:46.820 As she's a political columnist for the National Post,

00:47:48.440 writer for G-Zero and TDA as well.

00:47:49.920 Normally, he joins us here.

00:47:50.720 I'm held up a bucket sitting in a hot tub

00:47:55.920 in South Wisconsin.

00:47:57.720 I feel a reason when I'm all alone

00:48:01.460 Switching between porn and Robocop

00:48:04.960 Turned up a cell phone, drank a bottle of one

00:48:10.060 and read a comic bus and passed out

00:48:13.400 Naked, trillin', stumbled to bed 0.99

00:48:16.860 In a fucked up sleepwalk 1.00

00:48:18.960 I got so tired of discussing my future 0.96

00:48:22.160 I started avoiding the people I love

00:48:25.600 Evenings of silence and mornings of nausea

00:48:29.680 Shaking, sweating, sweating again

00:48:35.240 I can't throw up

00:48:36.240 I got so tired of discussing my future

00:48:40.700 That I walked in my life like I'm the only one

00:48:46.160 Evenings of silence and mornings of nausea

00:48:51.160 Shaking, sweating, I can't throw up

00:48:51.620 I got so tired of discussing my future

00:48:52.620 I started avoiding the people I love

00:48:54.620 Evenings of silence and mornings of nausea

00:48:56.920 Shaking, sweating, I can't throw up

00:49:00.620 I got so tired of discussing my future

00:49:03.620 That I walked in my life like I'm the only one

00:49:07.080 Evenings of silence and mornings of nausea

00:49:10.080 Shaking, sweating, I can't throw up

00:49:12.080 Yes, let him, I can't throw up

00:49:14.480 Oh, no

00:49:15.540 Bleed up the empty bottles

00:49:35.100 Let them smoke out through chilly windows

00:49:39.060 I used a stationary bike

00:49:43.060 And I watched the end of the prices ride

00:49:46.740 Ordered an egg white sandwich

00:49:50.020 And I drove south through midday traffic

00:49:53.620 And I called up some folks I truly love

00:49:57.740 And hung up after they said hello

00:50:01.340 I got so tired of discussing my future

00:50:04.680 That I started avoiding the people I love

00:50:08.200 Evenings of silence and mornings of nausea

00:50:12.380 Shaking, sweating, I can't throw up

00:50:15.620 I got so tired of discussing my future

00:50:19.300 That I walked in my life like I'm the only one

00:50:22.820 Evenings of silence and mornings of nausea

00:50:26.980 All right, I want to get to this issue

00:50:29.940 in the House of Commons yesterday

00:50:31.140 We talked about the debate

00:50:32.260 We talked about a lot of criticism

00:50:35.280 And whether indeed this has split the Liberal Party up the middle

00:50:38.460 Whether or not this has jeopardized NDP seats in the future

00:50:42.380 It was a stunt from the beginning

00:50:44.360 And then the key part of the stunt

00:50:46.680 Let's recognize Palestine as a state

00:50:49.500 Was abandoned as quickly as the NDP realized

00:50:52.460 It wasn't going to get voted for

00:50:53.920 One of the more impassioned speakers of the evening

00:50:56.560 Was Conservative MP Melissa Lantzman

00:50:59.020 Here's some of what she said

00:51:00.120 In the face of some of the world's most vile anti-Semitism

00:51:03.460 And in the wake of the deadliest day for the Jews since the Holocaust

00:51:06.540 This government and this Prime Minister held captive

00:51:08.980 By its NDP overlords are giving in to terror

00:51:11.840 And this motion is only the latest example of that

00:51:15.600 Since October 7th

00:51:17.220 As Hamas launched an unprovoked 0.79

00:51:19.020 An unjustified attack on innocent civilians in Israel

00:51:22.240 Where hundreds of men and women, young and old

00:51:25.040 Were raped, murdered, tortured and taken hostage

00:51:28.220 More than a hundred of those hostages still being held captive

00:51:32.340 This motion is not only an abandonment

00:51:35.040 Of the ongoing fight to bring those hostages home

00:51:38.340 It is an abandonment of our ally in Israel

00:51:40.700 And more than that

00:51:42.040 It is a blind giveaway

00:51:43.760 To Hamas terrorists

00:51:45.540 And those who seek to undermine

00:51:47.460 Democracy, freedom

00:51:49.440 The rule of law

00:51:51.340 In the Middle East

00:51:52.400 And in the Western world

00:51:54.220 I'm going to tell you

00:51:55.180 I watched all nine minutes of the speech

00:51:56.860 And by the way

00:51:57.780 You don't have to agree with every politician all the time

00:52:00.000 I thought it was one of the great House of Commons speeches

00:52:02.960 That I've ever seen in my lifetime

00:52:04.400 And that's really saying something

00:52:06.180 Warren Kinsella is a commentator

00:52:07.960 And of course

00:52:08.820 With his own

00:52:10.020 Daisy Group Crisis Communications firm

00:52:12.160 He's the CEO

00:52:12.760 And he joins me now

00:52:13.680 Back on 640 Toronto

00:52:15.240 Nice to have you Warren

00:52:15.960 Thanks for having me

00:52:17.480 I called it a stunt out of the gate yesterday morning

00:52:20.340 And then the only part of the stunt that mattered

00:52:24.200 The NDP just gave up on early in the process

00:52:26.860 What damage does this do to their credibility?

00:52:29.940 It hurts them

00:52:30.920 But I think it hurts the Liberals too

00:52:32.760 Because at the end of the day

00:52:34.180 There was a lot of effort

00:52:35.560 There was a lot of momentum

00:52:36.780 Behind the proposition

00:52:38.020 That we should recognize a state

00:52:40.320 That's run by a listed terror group

00:52:42.340 And that, you know, we

00:52:43.800 And now I guess

00:52:44.980 They're saying

00:52:45.920 Well, let's demand a ceasefire

00:52:47.480 Well, it's like, guys, the ceasefire was broken by that terror group on October the 7th

00:52:52.620 And now it wants another ceasefire

00:52:54.640 Presumably to prepare for another attack

00:52:57.060 So it was, you know, I'd call it a three-ring circus yesterday

00:53:00.660 But I think that would be unfair to three-ring circuses

00:53:04.260 It really looked bad on the government

00:53:07.740 And on the NDP and the bloc

00:53:09.740 And, you know, the only party that really seemed

00:53:12.740 And I'm a former Liberal assistant

00:53:15.200 The only party that seemed to have any kind of moral coherence or clarity

00:53:19.140 Was the Conservatives

00:53:20.200 I mean, it's one thing we want to say

00:53:22.380 We'd criticize these politicians

00:53:25.120 If they didn't attempt to provide commentary

00:53:27.360 About what's happening on the global stage

00:53:29.380 But that wasn't

00:53:30.720 That just didn't seem like that was

00:53:32.080 That was that yesterday, Warren

00:53:33.620 This was political theater

00:53:34.960 I was going to say at its finest

00:53:36.220 But really at its worst

00:53:37.540 It's everything people hate about politics

00:53:39.140 And they saw it on full display yesterday

00:53:40.700 Yeah, and the problem is

00:53:42.700 I mean, it's a resolution

00:53:43.660 So for people who aren't familiar with parliamentary procedure

00:53:46.300 It is of no force and effect

00:53:48.700 Like, it doesn't change anything

00:53:51.320 Although earlier in the day

00:53:53.040 That's what Melanie Jolie

00:53:54.320 Our global affairs minister was saying

00:53:56.000 By the end of the day

00:53:56.780 She said it is going to have an effect

00:53:58.700 So I guess we'll have to wait and see

00:54:00.520 But, you know, politics is all about symbols

00:54:03.680 And the symbol that we projected to the world

00:54:06.920 We, a G7 nation

00:54:08.580 Is one of total lack of coherence

00:54:11.960 And confidence and clarity

00:54:14.240 We just, it looked like a joke

00:54:16.640 You know, and there's nobody who could watch

00:54:18.560 The hours that unfolded yesterday

00:54:21.060 And come away impressed by what took place

00:54:24.020 You know, apart from

00:54:25.160 You know, the supporters of the NDP

00:54:27.120 Who were in the gallery

00:54:28.300 And attacking friends of mine

00:54:29.800 Who support Israel as they left the building

00:54:31.760 Yeah, will you elaborate on that?

00:54:33.320 Because I had a couple people reach out to me

00:54:35.000 And said there was

00:54:35.760 There were things confrontational

00:54:37.220 Happening in the gallery

00:54:39.020 When people tried to depart

00:54:40.280 After the voting was over

00:54:41.300 What did you hear?

00:54:42.420 What did they say?

00:54:44.180 I had friends in the gallery

00:54:45.800 Who are supporters of Israel 0.91

00:54:47.360 And they were obeying the rules

00:54:48.820 And the rules when you're in the House of Commons

00:54:50.440 The only people who are allowed to speak 0.97

00:54:51.820 Are the parliamentarians

00:54:52.980 And properly so

00:54:53.980 And they have to follow the rules too

00:54:56.100 You're not allowed to sit there

00:54:57.600 In the visitor's gallery

00:54:58.600 And make a peep

00:54:59.520 If you are, if you do

00:55:01.260 You get kicked out

00:55:02.780 And in the years I was

00:55:04.220 Gretchen, a special assistant 0.80

00:55:05.360 I saw that happen a few times

00:55:07.080 When these friends left last night

00:55:10.420 After this terrible outcome

00:55:12.420 They got heckled

00:55:13.860 And attacked and shouted at

00:55:15.880 By the pro-Hamas side, effectively 0.73

00:55:19.020 And that's not supposed to be happening

00:55:20.980 So, like, just

00:55:22.040 Down on the floor of the House of Commons

00:55:24.580 Right up into the gallery

00:55:25.880 What we saw yesterday

00:55:27.520 Was pretty shameful

00:55:28.460 I think, look

00:55:30.460 We look at this

00:55:31.100 And you and I have been talking about this

00:55:32.740 Since October 7th

00:55:34.120 There's a lot of

00:55:36.540 There's a lot of explanation

00:55:38.780 And responsibility to go around

00:55:41.160 There's a lot of responsibility

00:55:42.360 That lands at Benjamin Netanyahu's desk

00:55:45.060 There's a lot of responsibility

00:55:46.220 That lands on the proportionality

00:55:48.380 Of Israel's response

00:55:49.280 Neither are without blame

00:55:50.720 But it feels like

00:55:52.160 There you see the NDP

00:55:53.420 Advocating for a two-state solution

00:55:55.340 Warren, you've seen what's happened

00:55:57.260 On the streets of Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal

00:55:59.100 If I go out and hold a sign up

00:56:01.420 And I hold one Israeli

00:56:02.620 One flag of Israel 0.92

00:56:03.600 One of Palestine 0.91

00:56:04.400 And I have a sign for a two-state solution

00:56:07.080 I'm not going to be very welcome

00:56:08.760 At those protests, am I? 1.00

00:56:10.420 No, you're going to get your ass kicked 1.00

00:56:11.840 And that's actually what's happened 1.00

00:56:13.140 Some people have showed up

00:56:14.920 With a sign saying

00:56:16.020 Condemn Hamas 0.92

00:56:17.180 That, you know, gets torn up

00:56:18.580 Like what we're seeing in the streets

00:56:20.680 I think is part of a well-crafted

00:56:22.700 Propaganda campaign

00:56:24.080 To intimidate people into silence

00:56:26.880 And to give the impression

00:56:28.580 Of momentum and strength

00:56:30.780 And, but the polling I've seen

00:56:33.860 And my firm does polling

00:56:35.300 And we write questionnaires

00:56:36.740 The vast majority of Canadians

00:56:38.920 Support the proposition

00:56:40.260 That you talked about a minute ago

00:56:41.840 Which is Israel has the right 1.00

00:56:43.740 To exist within safe and secure borders

00:56:46.040 And to defend itself

00:56:47.400 And Israel has a right

00:56:49.000 To eliminate this threat

00:56:50.640 To its existence

00:56:51.580 Which is Hamas 0.89

00:56:52.660 But, you know, if you look at it

00:56:54.140 In the streets

00:56:54.620 You get a very different impression indeed

00:56:56.400 Before you go

00:56:57.000 I want to give you something

00:56:57.680 Stephen Del Duca

00:56:58.440 The mayor of Vaughn

00:56:59.140 Said yesterday

00:56:59.840 I think he got this exactly right

00:57:01.840 I want to know what

00:57:02.560 How it lands for you

00:57:03.720 Here's what he said

00:57:04.480 In a news conference

00:57:05.160 Yesterday morning

00:57:05.800 Everyone

00:57:06.620 Every single person

00:57:08.380 Living here in our city

00:57:09.620 Deserves to be safe

00:57:11.680 And to feel safe

00:57:13.040 Especially when they are

00:57:14.880 In vulnerable parts

00:57:16.180 Vulnerable places

00:57:17.240 Of our community

00:57:18.160 The places where our kids

00:57:20.260 Go to learn

00:57:20.860 Where people go to access

00:57:23.480 Vital health care

00:57:24.420 Where our families

00:57:26.100 Go to drop off

00:57:26.940 Their kids at daycare

00:57:27.980 Or where our residents

00:57:29.700 Go to worship

00:57:30.420 There is no tolerance

00:57:32.980 For hate

00:57:33.540 In the city of Vaughn

00:57:34.740 Okay

00:57:35.340 That's the city of Vaughn

00:57:36.440 Stephen

00:57:36.700 I want to hear a lot

00:57:37.700 Or Warren

00:57:38.520 I want to hear

00:57:38.920 A lot more mayors

00:57:39.800 Give that kind of

00:57:41.080 Moral clarity

00:57:41.680 I wouldn't mind

00:57:42.220 Hearing the premier

00:57:42.940 Give that level

00:57:43.840 Of moral clarity

00:57:44.640 Where are these people

00:57:45.580 Where are the other mayors

00:57:46.700 And the premier

00:57:47.520 Saying exactly

00:57:48.680 What Stephen Del Duca

00:57:49.560 Just said

00:57:50.060 Depends where you live

00:57:51.700 In the province of Quebec

00:57:52.880 You know

00:57:53.380 They obtained

00:57:53.960 Through the superior

00:57:54.740 Accord and injunction

00:57:55.880 A couple weeks ago

00:57:57.420 To exactly do that

00:57:59.000 You know

00:57:59.480 Everybody's heard

00:58:00.300 About bubble zones

00:58:01.220 Around abortion clinics

00:58:02.440 To protect the women

00:58:03.420 Going in there

00:58:04.140 And exercise

00:58:04.780 A reproductive choice

00:58:06.180 Well you know

00:58:07.660 That's what has happened

00:58:09.420 In Quebec

00:58:09.820 And now Del Duca

00:58:10.980 Is wisely

00:58:11.840 Rightly

00:58:12.580 Demanding the same thing here

00:58:14.460 Because what he's saying

00:58:15.800 Is so true 1.00

00:58:16.500 You know

00:58:16.780 When you're in a place

00:58:17.640 Of worship

00:58:18.000 You're at your most vulnerable

00:58:19.520 You know

00:58:20.480 And going back

00:58:21.220 To the Quebec City

00:58:22.200 Mosque massacre

00:58:23.440 I was one of the people

00:58:24.960 Saying we need to have

00:58:26.140 Similar kind of law

00:58:27.080 In Canada

00:58:27.580 Years ago

00:58:28.500 When that took place

00:58:29.520 You know

00:58:30.180 It's all the more evident

00:58:31.100 We need it now

00:58:32.040 So it is the way

00:58:33.240 To protect people

00:58:34.440 We've now seen

00:58:35.300 Attacks

00:58:36.060 And you know

00:58:36.880 Targeting of synagogues 1.00

00:58:38.620 In Toronto

00:58:39.700 At least three times

00:58:40.820 In recent weeks

00:58:41.720 Police have done nothing

00:58:43.100 Well having an injunction

00:58:44.660 A bubble zone

00:58:45.320 Around those places

00:58:46.220 Would force the police

00:58:47.580 To do something

00:58:48.320 Got a blast Warren

00:58:49.500 Always enjoy our chats

00:58:50.400 Thanks for the time

00:58:50.980 Thanks my friend

00:58:52.240 Warren Kinsella

00:58:52.960 CEO of Daisy Group

00:58:53.940 Crisis Communications

00:58:54.940 Will you still love me 1.00

00:59:02.040 After I've fucked up 0.99

00:59:05.100 After I've shown 0.99

00:59:09.800 I don't deserve your trust

00:59:14.240 And I'm not the person

00:59:18.820 That you thought I was

00:59:22.760 Will you still love me 1.00

00:59:28.160 After I've fucked up 1.00

00:59:31.360 What will you feel 0.99

00:59:36.160 When you see my name pop up

00:59:40.000 I've grown and changed

00:59:44.860 But could it ever be enough

00:59:48.740 Cause growing and changing

00:59:53.800 Everything doesn't change

00:59:56.300 The stuff

00:59:57.440 Will you still love me 0.99

01:00:03.100 After I've fucked up 0.99

01:00:06.260 Everywhere 0.99

01:00:08.740 You want me

01:00:09.340 I just need to know

01:00:10.000 Yeah

01:00:10.180 You look

01:00:10.980 I just need to know

01:00:11.160 I don't gala

01:00:11.440 Anywhere

01:00:12.020 I could be

01:00:12.500 Can't you

01:00:14.160 Know

01:00:14.500 No

01:00:15.380 No

01:00:16.140 Nothing

01:00:16.980 No

01:00:18.180 No

01:00:20.020 No

01:00:22.060 It's

01:00:22.900 It's

01:00:23.680 Um

01:00:24.200 No

01:00:25.180 You

01:00:26.840 You

01:00:26.900 Find

01:00:28.180 2003

01:00:28.800 2003

01:00:29.080 2001

01:00:29.680 2001

01:00:31.020 2006

01:00:31.440 2005

01:00:31.940 2005

01:00:33.020 2007

01:00:33.120 2001

01:00:34.200 街

01:00:36.260 I would you transcend time in space 1.00

01:01:04.840 See the parts of my stupid face 1.00

01:01:06.980 You're not so sensitive to my head 1.00

01:01:09.580 Before I make a terrible mistake

01:01:11.440 And make you rethink everything

01:01:13.480 That you thought was good in me

01:01:15.720 Or better than the things I did

01:01:18.240 So why did I do many ways

01:01:20.140 And with the weight I've gathered from here on

01:01:22.460 I'd even compare to the damage that I've caused

01:01:25.400 No, it's a subject, not so what should you get

01:01:28.760 Would it be easier for both of us if I just disappeared

01:01:32.920 When you're still here

01:01:36.820 Once I'm giving up

01:01:40.000 Cause I'm still here

01:01:41.620 Turned it away and

01:01:45.440 Left the rest to us

01:01:48.820 Burned out my grave and

01:01:54.160 Grounded my bones to dust 0.83

01:01:57.500 Turned you by

01:02:01.100 And you fell out of love

01:02:05.780 Don't let them walk

01:02:08.120 Don't let them walk

01:02:09.160 Don't let them walk

01:02:10.240 Don't let them walk

01:02:11.300 Don't let them walk

01:02:12.340 Don't let them walk

01:02:13.360 Just walk down, walk down, walk down, walk down

01:02:16.000 If, as Aubrey was saying before the session started

01:02:19.020 If you give these people an inch

01:02:20.580 They're going to take a yard

01:02:21.500 You have to be tough

01:02:23.260 You have to apply the law

01:02:24.800 They've done that in Ottawa

01:02:26.180 And it's already yielded results

01:02:28.320 They arrested two young offenders

01:02:30.160 Who were involved in an actual terrorist plot 0.93

01:02:32.820 To kill multiple Jews 1.00

01:02:34.520 So in Ottawa it's working 0.99

01:02:36.060 Why isn't it working in places like Montreal and Toronto?

01:02:39.540 Montreal and Toronto have the two biggest problems

01:02:41.440 I note that in Ottawa

01:02:45.480 In Toronto and Montreal

01:02:47.540 We have two mayors

01:02:49.420 Who I think would characterize themselves

01:02:51.100 As progressive on the left

01:02:53.720 People who are progressives

01:02:56.780 I think too often regard police as the enemy

01:03:01.240 So what's happened in Montreal

01:03:03.100 And I've talked to people there

01:03:04.260 And I've certainly talked to a lot of people in Toronto

01:03:06.680 The mayors in those cities

01:03:09.240 You know, they can't be giving direction to the police

01:03:12.280 No politician should be telling the police or prosecutors what to do

01:03:16.080 That's how Justin Trudeau got in trouble

01:03:18.080 With Jody Wilson-Raybould and the SNC-Lavalin scandal

01:03:21.620 Politicians should not be telling police and prosecutors what to do

01:03:25.220 However, they can create policies that the police apply

01:03:29.880 They can be ensuring that the police have the budgets

01:03:33.440 To apply the criminal law

01:03:35.600 And most of all, they can be indicating to the police

01:03:38.900 Look, if you act against these thugs

01:03:41.460 If you have an imam 0.94

01:03:42.760 Who stands up in front of 20,000 people in Montreal

01:03:46.540 Before the holidays 0.99

01:03:48.320 And calls on God to exterminate the Jews 0.99

01:03:51.440 That is obviously a criminal offense 0.98

01:03:54.080 If you act against that imam 0.71

01:03:56.600 We will have your back

01:03:57.960 Go to it

01:03:58.900 But instead, in Montreal

01:04:00.920 That imam has been walking the streets 1.00

01:04:03.660 A free man for many weeks

01:04:05.720 You know, and in Toronto

01:04:07.360 The firebombing of the deli

01:04:10.380 The IDF deli

01:04:12.500 In North York

01:04:14.120 The bad guys are still walking the streets

01:04:16.520 We need the politicians

01:04:18.440 To say to the police

01:04:19.440 We've got your backs

01:04:20.380 If you've got to crack down

01:04:21.800 If you've got to get tougher

01:04:22.720 We will support you

01:04:24.640 I think you're muted

01:04:28.420 Sorry, Chief Demphew just did a fireside chat

01:04:33.680 This fireside chat a month ago

01:04:35.320 And was talking about the concerns

01:04:37.600 About the hate crimes

01:04:38.440 And how they have all kinds of tentacles everywhere

01:04:41.600 And they're connected to the RCMP

01:04:43.140 And all of the

01:04:43.980 For the investigations, right?

01:04:45.520 There's all kinds of investigations

01:04:47.100 Behind the scenes going on

01:04:48.300 They're watching the hate

01:04:49.200 They're watching the people behind it

01:04:50.980 So there's a lot more going on

01:04:52.800 Behind the scenes than we are seeing

01:04:54.700 They're watching closely

01:04:56.140 And they're acting

01:04:57.060 When they see it necessary to act

01:04:59.400 I watched the response on this chat

01:05:02.500 And it seemed everybody was content

01:05:04.560 With the answers from Chief Demphew

01:05:06.380 I'm not sure that

01:05:07.840 Maybe everybody was just being nice

01:05:09.580 But I mean, to that end

01:05:12.240 Warren here, you can speak

01:05:13.540 Your thoughts on how

01:05:15.340 Chief Demphew has reacted

01:05:17.540 We saw him coming out

01:05:18.420 Talking about the hate crimes

01:05:19.480 Up 56%

01:05:20.480 So far this year

01:05:21.780 Anti-Semitic hate

01:05:22.940 Do you think there's just

01:05:25.740 He's not feeling

01:05:26.980 Is he not acting enough

01:05:28.860 Strongly enough right now?

01:05:30.580 They did finally move on Avenue Road

01:05:32.280 Finally

01:05:32.960 The bridge

01:05:33.920 Yeah, I don't want to malign somebody

01:05:37.300 Who's previously been a guest to this group

01:05:39.660 And I'm not the kind of person

01:05:41.600 Who criticizes somebody

01:05:43.140 Behind their back

01:05:44.460 But he's not here

01:05:45.540 He's probably busy doing other things

01:05:47.540 But I think it's time

01:05:50.060 For a change in leadership

01:05:51.120 And that moment for me

01:05:53.280 Came before the holidays again

01:05:55.640 When they're not pro-Palestinian 0.55

01:05:58.640 They're anti-Israel 0.67

01:05:59.820 They're anti-Semitic 0.88

01:06:01.000 They are pro-Hamas 1.00

01:06:02.380 Flooded the Eaton Center

01:06:04.340 At the Christmas period

01:06:06.620 The threatening Santa

01:06:08.380 Threatening parents

01:06:09.620 Who were there with their kids

01:06:11.160 And one of these thugs

01:06:12.980 Wearing a mask

01:06:13.960 Which in itself is a criminal offense

01:06:15.760 If you wear a mask

01:06:16.840 Committing a criminal offense

01:06:17.920 It's a criminal offense

01:06:19.220 In itself

01:06:20.100 And said

01:06:21.400 Right in front of a group of police

01:06:23.360 I'm going to put you six feet under 0.99

01:06:25.380 He made a death threat 0.95

01:06:26.720 In front of the police

01:06:27.860 What happened

01:06:29.300 Chief Dem Q 0.72

01:06:30.160 Zero

01:06:31.720 Nothing

01:06:33.140 Now ultimately

01:06:34.680 I think because that story

01:06:36.220 Went international

01:06:37.320 It went around the world

01:06:38.580 Not just in Israel

01:06:39.500 People saw that

01:06:40.880 And I think the Toronto Police Service

01:06:42.440 Was embarrassed

01:06:43.140 But it is completely unacceptable

01:06:46.440 That that is happening

01:06:47.700 Or a horde of people

01:06:49.320 Are marching down university

01:06:51.200 Stopping in front of

01:06:53.000 Mount Sinai Hospital

01:06:54.000 Where children are receiving

01:06:55.160 Treatment for cancer

01:06:56.340 And are chanting

01:06:57.640 Intifada

01:06:58.500 And from the river to the sea

01:07:00.140 From the river to the sea

01:07:01.880 It's oblique

01:07:02.800 It's vague

01:07:03.500 But it is a call to genocide

01:07:05.180 It means wiping out

01:07:07.140 All of Israel 0.99

01:07:07.940 That is genocide

01:07:09.100 That's the dictionary

01:07:10.160 Definition of genocide

01:07:11.980 That is something too

01:07:13.640 The Chief Dem Q 0.95

01:07:14.660 Can be acting upon

01:07:15.760 He has not

01:07:16.840 So I think

01:07:18.580 Some police chiefs

01:07:19.840 Some police forces

01:07:20.600 In this country

01:07:21.420 Have done well

01:07:22.520 Comparatively

01:07:23.360 In Toronto

01:07:24.400 And Montreal

01:07:25.260 They have not

01:07:26.500 Well Warren

01:07:29.240 When we

01:07:30.020 I'm just observing

01:07:31.360 The time here

01:07:32.040 It's 7.40

01:07:32.780 And I feel like

01:07:33.920 I could talk to you forever

01:07:34.780 And I know

01:07:36.000 Probably everybody else

01:07:36.860 Is feeling the same way

01:07:37.600 But I want to ask you

01:07:39.120 Another question

01:07:39.580 And then we can start

01:07:40.220 To maybe weave in

01:07:40.980 Some questions

01:07:41.480 And I'll shorten my answers

01:07:42.460 I apologize

01:07:43.000 I don't think so

01:07:44.360 I think they're fabulous

01:07:45.160 But what I wanted to ask you

01:07:47.040 Was about

01:07:48.400 You were talking about

01:07:49.640 Hate

01:07:49.900 Hate online

01:07:50.840 You have been writing

01:07:52.560 Endlessly about this topic

01:07:54.440 You said yourself

01:07:55.220 For 30 years

01:07:56.240 And then just

01:07:57.080 Since October 8th

01:07:59.760 Hate

01:08:01.240 You've likely felt

01:08:03.760 Your share of it

01:08:04.580 Can you explain to us

01:08:06.200 The wrath that you have felt

01:08:07.520 For covering this

01:08:10.120 As diligently as you have

01:08:11.780 Yeah

01:08:13.400 I know I've gotten

01:08:14.040 My fair share of it

01:08:15.200 And

01:08:16.060 You know

01:08:18.840 Sometimes I act on it

01:08:20.040 And that's again

01:08:20.760 Something I encourage

01:08:21.580 All of you to do

01:08:22.460 A few years ago

01:08:23.860 Here

01:08:24.280 I'm in the beach

01:08:25.060 Right now

01:08:25.640 In East Toronto

01:08:26.900 And

01:08:28.220 Those of you

01:08:29.560 Outside of Toronto

01:08:30.240 May find it

01:08:30.800 Less hard to believe

01:08:31.580 But for years

01:08:33.040 In this neighborhood

01:08:34.160 There was a newspaper

01:08:35.540 Published called

01:08:36.340 Your Ward News

01:08:37.180 It was a pro-Nazi 0.61

01:08:39.180 Pro-Hitler newspaper

01:08:40.700 That regularly

01:08:42.280 Defamed Jews

01:08:43.440 And in one issue

01:08:44.840 They indicated

01:08:45.860 That they wanted

01:08:46.760 To see me 0.98

01:08:47.340 Bludgeoned to death 0.70

01:08:48.600 Quote unquote

01:08:49.320 And I said

01:08:50.920 To hell with this

01:08:51.720 I went to the police

01:08:52.780 They weren't prepared

01:08:53.680 To do anything

01:08:54.300 I said okay fine

01:08:55.320 I appeared before

01:08:56.440 A justice of the peace

01:08:57.560 Like Sabina Citrin 0.82

01:08:58.660 Did so many years ago

01:08:59.820 With Ernst Sundell

01:09:00.900 And initiated

01:09:02.340 A private prosecution

01:09:03.700 So basically

01:09:04.700 I embarrassed

01:09:05.600 The authorities

01:09:06.580 Into taking action

01:09:07.840 And prosecute

01:09:09.160 Those hate mongers

01:09:10.120 Unfortunately

01:09:11.000 We had

01:09:11.700 In my opinion

01:09:12.420 A crummy judge 0.70

01:09:13.580 And

01:09:14.520 We were not

01:09:15.360 Successful there

01:09:16.140 But we were

01:09:16.660 Ultimately successful

01:09:17.860 In getting the publisher

01:09:19.200 And the editor 0.99

01:09:19.800 Of that garbage 1.00

01:09:21.300 Thrown in jail 1.00

01:09:22.840 For a year

01:09:23.440 For promoting hatred

01:09:24.840 Against Jews 1.00

01:09:25.680 And against women 0.53

01:09:26.720 And that was actually

01:09:28.000 A first in Canadian history

01:09:29.240 There'd never been

01:09:29.940 Successful prosecution

01:09:31.340 For promoting hatred

01:09:32.380 Against women 1.00

01:09:33.040 So

01:09:33.840 You know

01:09:34.580 My advice is

01:09:35.420 Not to give up

01:09:36.340 When you get the threats

01:09:37.620 I know it is upsetting

01:09:38.780 I know

01:09:40.060 It can be very challenging

01:09:41.320 For a family

01:09:42.140 And

01:09:43.720 You know

01:09:44.700 My advice is

01:09:45.580 Do not

01:09:46.100 Take it

01:09:47.420 Lying down

01:09:48.420 You have to push back

01:09:50.140 And if you want to

01:09:51.280 Talk to somebody

01:09:51.880 Like me

01:09:52.400 I encourage you

01:09:53.120 To do so

01:09:53.720 And I'll give you

01:09:54.640 Advice about

01:09:55.300 Where to go

01:09:55.960 And who to reach out to

01:09:57.420 But you can't

01:09:58.460 Let it go

01:09:59.040 I think that's

01:09:59.840 A message that

01:10:00.700 B'nai B'rith 0.57

01:10:01.260 In particular

01:10:02.260 Has been communicating

01:10:03.920 To the Canadian Jewish community

01:10:05.280 For decades

01:10:06.100 Don't let it go

01:10:07.380 Report it

01:10:08.100 Let them know about it

01:10:09.300 Have them help

01:10:10.560 There's a lot of us here

01:10:11.900 Who want to help

01:10:12.760 And

01:10:13.520 It's critically important

01:10:15.260 That we do not let

01:10:16.360 These things happen

01:10:17.200 In silence

01:10:17.860 You know

01:10:19.880 We spent

01:10:20.420 You spent so much time

01:10:23.020 Working with

01:10:23.540 Former Prime Minister

01:10:24.660 Jean Chrétien

01:10:25.260 And

01:10:25.780 We know how

01:10:26.820 Justin Trudeau

01:10:27.520 Has handled this crisis

01:10:28.760 How do you imagine

01:10:31.000 That Jean Chrétien

01:10:31.980 Would have

01:10:32.780 Dealt with today's events

01:10:34.180 If he were Prime Minister

01:10:35.080 Today

01:10:35.480 Well I don't have to imagine

01:10:36.820 I've talked to him

01:10:37.540 And you know

01:10:38.660 I talk to him

01:10:39.180 On a regular basis

01:10:40.060 He was my boss

01:10:41.000 Now he's my friend

01:10:42.000 He would not have 1.00

01:10:43.100 Put up with this crap 1.00

01:10:44.140 He would not have 1.00

01:10:45.840 And

01:10:46.360 You know

01:10:47.720 He is a believer

01:10:49.360 In the law

01:10:50.020 As well

01:10:50.620 It is important

01:10:52.080 That we do not

01:10:53.680 Permit lawlessness

01:10:54.780 To grow

01:10:55.360 It is important

01:10:56.440 That we do not

01:10:57.300 Permit hate

01:10:58.300 To grow

01:10:59.100 And so

01:11:00.100 You know

01:11:00.640 The Trudeau

01:11:01.320 Liberals

01:11:02.100 And I always

01:11:02.700 Call them that

01:11:03.380 I don't think

01:11:03.900 They're liberals

01:11:04.420 I think they're

01:11:05.000 Trudeau liberals

01:11:05.700 I think they're

01:11:06.600 Much closer

01:11:07.180 To the NDP

01:11:07.920 With all that

01:11:08.660 That means

01:11:09.300 And I think

01:11:10.120 They've done

01:11:10.440 A terrible job

01:11:11.220 And you know

01:11:12.440 I think the polls

01:11:13.100 Show that most

01:11:14.180 Canadians feel that way

01:11:15.360 That's one thing

01:11:16.540 That I want to

01:11:17.300 Emphasize to everybody

01:11:18.380 As I know

01:11:19.520 How upsetting

01:11:20.440 And depressing

01:11:21.360 The past few

01:11:22.860 Weeks and months

01:11:23.640 Have been

01:11:24.120 You know

01:11:24.940 Jews were the 0.98

01:11:26.500 Victims of October 7th

01:11:28.180 And instead of

01:11:28.820 The world

01:11:29.360 You know

01:11:30.200 Embracing Israel 1.00

01:11:31.460 And Jews 0.98

01:11:32.320 And protecting them

01:11:33.940 The reverse happened

01:11:35.240 And it was an

01:11:36.300 Extraordinary

01:11:37.420 And terrible event

01:11:38.500 But you know

01:11:40.120 The polling

01:11:41.280 And one of my

01:11:42.160 Firm

01:11:42.520 The Daisy Group

01:11:43.280 We do polling

01:11:44.160 We write questionnaires

01:11:45.620 I can tell you

01:11:46.940 The vast majority

01:11:48.700 Of Canadians 0.57

01:11:49.740 And Americans 0.95

01:11:50.740 And people

01:11:52.020 In Europe

01:11:52.720 Are on the side

01:11:53.740 Of Israel 0.92

01:11:54.320 And are on the side

01:11:55.320 Of the Jewish community

01:11:56.200 Truly

01:11:57.000 So you may say

01:11:58.360 Well how are they

01:11:59.020 Having these rallies

01:11:59.820 In the streets

01:12:00.500 They're having these

01:12:01.640 Rallies in the streets

01:12:02.720 With so many people

01:12:03.640 Because as I said

01:12:04.540 Some of them

01:12:04.920 Are being paid

01:12:06.000 To be there

01:12:06.520 The organizers

01:12:07.440 Are definitely

01:12:08.120 Being paid

01:12:08.720 To be there

01:12:09.280 And they're trying

01:12:10.500 To give the impression

01:12:11.560 Of momentum

01:12:12.120 But most particularly

01:12:14.060 The reason why

01:12:15.000 They're having

01:12:15.400 These big rallies

01:12:16.180 Every single Sunday

01:12:17.820 Is to intimidate

01:12:19.440 People into silence

01:12:20.580 To scare people

01:12:22.340 To say

01:12:23.020 Oh I'm alone

01:12:23.600 You are not alone

01:12:25.240 The majority 0.87

01:12:26.320 Are with us

01:12:27.280 The majority 0.87

01:12:28.060 Are on the side

01:12:28.880 Of the Jewish community

01:12:29.660 The majority 0.87

01:12:30.200 Are on the side

01:12:30.860 Of Israel 0.92

01:12:31.620 To exist

01:12:32.620 Within safe

01:12:33.860 And secure borders

01:12:34.660 And to wipe out 0.69

01:12:35.940 The monsters 0.97

01:12:36.540 In Hamas

01:12:37.400 And to bring back

01:12:38.800 The hostages

01:12:39.520 The majority 0.87

01:12:40.220 Is there

01:12:41.140 So don't believe

01:12:42.780 For a moment

01:12:43.360 What you see

01:12:44.060 In the streets

01:12:44.580 Is representative

01:12:45.380 Of what Canadians 0.95

01:12:46.240 Feel

01:12:46.620 It is not

01:12:47.640 And you know

01:12:56.820 Also we can't

01:12:57.600 Help but think

01:12:58.020 About Prime Minister

01:12:58.660 Mulroney

01:12:59.060 This week

01:12:59.660 As well

01:13:00.520 As he lies

01:13:01.380 In repose

01:13:02.000 In Montreal

01:13:03.500 Or Ottawa

01:13:04.100 Ahead of his

01:13:04.620 State funeral

01:13:05.420 On Saturday

01:13:06.040 So would his

01:13:07.360 Approach

01:13:07.920 Have been the same 0.98

01:13:09.160 As Mr. Kretzian

01:13:11.280 Yeah for sure

01:13:12.340 And you know

01:13:12.900 An example

01:13:13.540 Of that

01:13:13.900 Is South Africa

01:13:14.680 South Africa

01:13:15.860 Was an apartheid 0.78

01:13:16.820 State

01:13:17.220 South Africa

01:13:18.100 Is an enemy

01:13:18.640 Of Israel 0.92

01:13:19.320 In my opinion

01:13:20.480 A lot of the

01:13:21.060 Civilized world

01:13:21.780 At the moment

01:13:22.420 And but when

01:13:23.960 Apartheid was being 0.59

01:13:24.900 A practice there

01:13:25.820 Which is

01:13:26.200 Institutionalized

01:13:27.220 Racism

01:13:27.900 You know

01:13:28.800 Ronald Reagan

01:13:29.480 Said let it go

01:13:30.720 Margaret Thatcher

01:13:31.740 Said let it go

01:13:32.520 They were the

01:13:33.140 Two biggest

01:13:33.760 International allies

01:13:34.720 Of Brian Maroney

01:13:35.400 And Brian

01:13:36.220 Maroney

01:13:36.960 To his

01:13:37.520 Enormous

01:13:38.340 And everlasting

01:13:39.580 Tribute

01:13:42.660 You know

01:13:42.920 To his credit

01:13:43.620 He said no

01:13:44.760 No

01:13:45.640 Canada will not

01:13:47.160 Stand for

01:13:48.140 Apartheid 0.88

01:13:49.440 And he led

01:13:50.240 The charge

01:13:50.660 Against sanctions

01:13:51.620 For sanctions

01:13:53.140 Against South Africa

01:13:54.600 And it changed

01:13:56.360 The future of

01:13:57.540 South Africa

01:13:58.040 And you know

01:13:58.720 Nelson Mandela

01:13:59.740 Came to Canada

01:14:00.620 To thank Maroney

01:14:01.920 And thank Canadians

01:14:02.800 For doing that

01:14:03.300 So there's an example

01:14:04.380 Of what we can

01:14:06.140 Even in a little

01:14:07.180 Country like Canada

01:14:08.220 That we can

01:14:08.920 And should be doing

01:14:09.680 But I think

01:14:10.560 At the moment

01:14:11.020 It's going to

01:14:11.480 Require a change

01:14:12.200 Of government

01:14:12.620 I think the Trudeau

01:14:13.660 Guys are just

01:14:14.240 Too far gone

01:14:14.960 You know

01:14:16.800 Back in 2007

01:14:17.760 Warren

01:14:18.100 You wrote

01:14:18.720 Jews shouldn't 1.00

01:14:19.700 Abandon the left

01:14:20.640 Here we are

01:14:21.540 2024

01:14:22.040 Right

01:14:22.680 What do you say

01:14:24.040 Now

01:14:24.280 For hope

01:14:24.840 You know

01:14:26.080 Well I don't

01:14:26.920 You know

01:14:28.240 As you mentioned

01:14:29.780 At the top

01:14:30.360 I've been writing

01:14:30.840 About this stuff

01:14:31.440 For a long time

01:14:32.120 The anti-Semitism

01:14:34.420 And I think

01:14:35.260 Many of you

01:14:35.780 Would agree

01:14:36.180 With me

01:14:36.540 Right now

01:14:37.060 For sure

01:14:37.560 It is

01:14:38.640 Predominantly

01:14:39.320 A problem

01:14:39.860 On the left

01:14:40.540 But you know

01:14:41.960 20 and 30

01:14:42.700 Years ago

01:14:43.320 It was

01:14:44.100 Predominantly

01:14:44.760 A problem

01:14:45.260 On the right

01:14:45.840 The thing

01:14:47.140 That I've

01:14:47.520 Learned about

01:14:47.980 Anti-Semitism

01:14:48.680 Over the years

01:14:49.600 Is it's a

01:14:50.440 Shape-shifter

01:14:51.180 It moves

01:14:52.100 Around

01:14:52.520 It doesn't

01:14:53.540 Belong to

01:14:54.140 An ideology

01:14:54.540 It is

01:14:56.340 An ideology

01:14:57.100 Unto itself

01:14:58.400 And so

01:14:59.780 Whatever it

01:15:00.760 Takes

01:15:01.140 You know

01:15:01.740 It used to

01:15:02.540 Be at the

01:15:03.040 Time of the

01:15:03.480 Holocaust 0.95

01:15:03.800 Of course

01:15:04.380 The Holocaust 0.90

01:15:05.200 Was devised

01:15:06.040 By Christian

01:15:06.640 Nations

01:15:07.120 And carried

01:15:08.000 Out by

01:15:08.380 Christian

01:15:08.740 Nations

01:15:09.220 Now

01:15:10.060 I think

01:15:10.980 Probably

01:15:11.440 The biggest

01:15:11.900 Supporters

01:15:12.480 Of Israel 0.92

01:15:13.420 Are Christians

01:15:14.440 And people

01:15:15.340 Like me

01:15:15.880 Who believe

01:15:16.740 In Israel 0.79

01:15:17.280 And love

01:15:17.760 Israel

01:15:18.200 And the

01:15:18.780 Jewish people

01:15:19.400 And their

01:15:19.780 Right to

01:15:20.120 Exist

01:15:20.620 In harmony

01:15:21.640 But it

01:15:22.980 Moves around

01:15:23.780 And this

01:15:24.380 Is the

01:15:25.200 Devilish

01:15:26.540 Quality

01:15:27.060 Of anti-Semitism

01:15:28.340 Is it

01:15:29.280 It moves

01:15:30.100 It changes

01:15:30.880 And it adapts

01:15:31.660 To circumstances

01:15:32.480 And you've

01:15:33.320 Seen that

01:15:33.840 Since October

01:15:34.440 7th

01:15:35.040 What was

01:15:35.620 The first

01:15:36.180 Thing they

01:15:36.700 Did

01:15:36.980 The first

01:15:38.280 Thing they

01:15:38.660 Did said

01:15:39.100 No babies

01:15:39.600 Were killed

01:15:40.060 I've seen

01:15:41.340 The footage

01:15:41.800 Babies were

01:15:42.360 Killed

01:15:42.600 They said

01:15:43.620 There were

01:15:43.900 No atrocities

01:15:44.880 There were

01:15:45.320 Certainly

01:15:45.680 Atrocities

01:15:46.400 They said

01:15:47.360 There was

01:15:47.840 No sexual

01:15:48.580 Violence

01:15:49.060 Against

01:15:49.420 Women 1.00

01:15:49.760 So

01:15:50.720 Whatever

01:15:51.820 It is

01:15:52.700 That

01:15:53.380 Israel

01:15:54.080 Wishes

01:15:54.480 To say

01:15:55.060 To say

01:15:55.600 Terrible

01:15:56.320 Things

01:15:56.700 Happened

01:15:57.160 To us

01:15:57.620 Like the

01:15:58.240 Holocaust 0.95

01:15:58.780 Deniers

01:15:59.380 Zundel

01:15:59.980 And Irving

01:16:01.040 And so

01:16:01.440 On

01:16:01.640 They deny

01:16:02.600 That

01:16:03.000 Because it's

01:16:03.960 Critically

01:16:04.480 Important

01:16:05.060 To them

01:16:05.780 That Israel 0.98

01:16:06.720 Not be

01:16:07.300 Seen

01:16:07.700 As a

01:16:08.220 Victim

01:16:08.980 And Israel 0.51

01:16:09.480 Has been

01:16:10.160 A victim

01:16:10.600 So it's

01:16:11.820 Important

01:16:12.260 Again that

01:16:12.920 All of us

01:16:13.320 Tell the

01:16:13.700 Truth

01:16:14.000 And push 0.99

01:16:14.680 Back against

01:16:15.380 This

01:16:15.740 International

01:16:16.600 Organized

01:16:17.700 Lie

01:16:18.120 That has

01:16:18.780 Been

01:16:19.080 Set loose

01:16:20.200 Since

01:16:20.420 October

01:16:20.720 The 7th

01:16:21.460 Well I'm

01:16:23.000 Wondering

01:16:23.240 What we

01:16:23.580 Should do

01:16:23.840 About

01:16:24.000 Questions

01:16:24.400 Now

01:16:24.720 If

01:16:25.760 We

01:16:26.160 If there

01:16:26.580 Are

01:16:26.760 Any

01:16:26.960 Out

01:16:27.140 There

01:16:27.260 I've

01:16:27.420 Been

01:16:27.520 Getting

01:16:27.700 Some

01:16:27.960 Comments

01:16:28.620 In the

01:16:29.480 Comments

01:16:29.760 Section

01:16:30.080 I'm

01:16:30.320 Not

01:16:30.500 Sure

01:16:30.740 How we

01:16:31.200 Usually

01:16:31.520 Handle

01:16:32.540 The

01:16:32.680 Questions

01:16:33.100 Maybe

01:16:33.360 Aubrey

01:16:33.680 You can

01:16:33.880 Give

01:16:34.020 Me a

01:16:34.260 Hand

01:16:34.500 Here

01:16:34.740 Or

01:16:34.900 Somebody

01:16:35.300 If

01:16:35.640 We

01:16:36.660 Have

01:16:36.900 Any

01:16:37.080 Coming

01:16:37.400 In

01:16:37.720 In

01:16:37.860 Any

01:16:38.060 Way

01:16:38.360 Shape

01:16:38.660 Or

01:16:38.820 Form

01:16:39.140 Because

01:16:39.540 If I

01:16:40.200 May

01:16:40.500 I'd

01:16:41.160 Like

01:16:41.340 To

01:16:41.560 Start

01:16:42.020 The

01:16:42.200 Questioning

01:16:42.840 I'm

01:16:44.240 Marty

01:16:44.500 York

01:16:44.860 I'm

01:16:45.040 The

01:16:45.200 Communications

01:16:45.840 Director

01:16:46.500 At

01:16:46.740 Hey

01:16:47.080 Marty

01:16:47.420 Hi

01:16:47.980 Guys

01:16:48.400 I

01:16:50.020 Am

01:16:50.420 I

01:16:51.460 Have

01:16:51.640 The

01:16:52.320 Conversation

01:16:53.240 Warren

01:16:53.680 And

01:16:53.960 Stephanie

01:16:54.360 Was

01:16:54.920 Riveting

01:16:55.440 The

01:16:55.720 Dialogue

01:16:56.300 Was

01:16:56.480 Great

01:16:56.780 The

01:16:57.000 Questions

01:16:57.500 Were

01:16:57.780 Terrific

01:16:58.340 Stephanie

01:16:58.820 And

01:16:59.580 The

01:16:59.740 Answers

01:17:00.140 Were

01:17:00.400 Outstanding

01:17:01.000 Warren

01:17:01.400 And

01:17:01.700 You

01:17:03.340 You

01:17:04.120 Both

01:17:04.340 Have

01:17:04.560 A

01:17:04.680 Great

01:17:04.900 Understanding

01:17:05.500 Of

01:17:05.740 What

01:17:05.940 Is 0.88

01:17:06.100 Going

01:17:06.380 On

01:17:06.720 And

01:17:06.880 Why

01:17:07.180 We're

01:17:07.400 So

01:17:07.640 Troubled

01:17:08.200 You

01:17:09.680 Know

01:17:09.800 Our

01:17:10.040 Community

01:17:10.480 Is 0.88

01:17:10.780 Extremely

01:17:11.300 Troubled

01:17:11.720 At

01:17:11.940 This

01:17:12.160 Time

01:17:12.460 Obviously

01:17:13.160 I

01:17:15.340 Have

01:17:15.620 A

01:17:15.760 Question

01:17:16.160 That

01:17:16.400 I

01:17:16.560 I'd

01:17:16.840 Like

01:17:17.000 To

01:17:17.240 Ask

01:17:17.820 Warren

01:17:18.180 About

01:17:18.460 Because

01:17:18.820 Unless

01:17:19.360 I

01:17:19.580 Missed

01:17:19.900 It

01:17:20.060 You

01:17:20.260 Didn't

01:17:20.480 Touch

01:17:20.760 On

01:17:21.000 This

01:17:21.280 Unruh

01:17:23.360 Is 0.88

01:17:24.340 A

01:17:24.720 Really

01:17:26.240 It's

01:17:28.620 A

01:17:28.760 It's

01:17:28.980 A

01:17:29.120 Delicate

01:17:29.520 Question

01:17:30.000 With

01:17:30.300 Us

01:17:30.480 We

01:17:30.700 Have

01:17:30.980 Been

01:17:31.180 Pushing

01:17:31.680 And

01:17:32.380 Advocating

01:17:33.100 For

01:17:33.600 Decades

01:17:34.340 At

01:17:34.520 B'nai

01:17:34.780 Breath

01:17:35.160 To

01:17:36.460 Stop

01:17:37.760 To

01:17:38.260 Try

01:17:38.820 To

01:17:39.060 Get

01:17:39.280 The

01:17:39.520 Government

01:17:39.860 To

01:17:40.240 Ensure

01:17:41.360 That

01:17:41.660 We

01:17:41.900 Stop

01:17:42.440 Paying

01:17:42.880 Our

01:17:43.060 Taxpayer

01:17:43.600 Money

01:17:43.960 Towards

01:17:44.560 Unruh

01:17:45.480 Because

01:17:46.080 Unruh

01:17:47.460 Indoctrinates

01:17:48.440 Children

01:17:48.880 In

01:17:49.160 Schools

01:17:49.640 And

01:17:50.140 Warren

01:17:50.520 I'll

01:17:51.760 Ask

01:17:51.980 You

01:17:52.100 To

01:17:52.260 Expand

01:17:52.680 On

01:17:52.860 It

01:17:53.000 But

01:17:53.260 I

01:17:54.000 Asked

01:17:54.420 Andrew

01:17:56.000 Scheer

01:17:56.360 When

01:17:56.540 He

01:17:56.660 Came

01:17:56.840 To

01:17:57.020 Visit

01:17:57.400 B'nai

01:17:58.060 Breath

01:17:58.420 A

01:17:59.060 Couple 0.60

01:17:59.300 Years

01:17:59.660 Ago

01:17:59.960 And

01:18:00.720 He

01:18:00.860 Said

01:18:01.080 The

01:18:01.220 First

01:18:01.500 Thing

01:18:01.680 He

01:18:01.840 Would

01:18:02.040 Do

01:18:02.320 Would

01:18:02.780 Stop

01:18:03.260 Our

01:18:04.220 Money

01:18:04.460 Going

01:18:04.780 To

01:18:05.120 Unruh

01:18:05.540 I

01:18:06.200 Wonder

01:18:06.420 What

01:18:06.620 Chrétien

01:18:07.240 Might

01:18:07.780 Say

01:18:08.000 That

01:18:08.160 It

01:18:08.260 Was

01:18:08.380 Like

01:18:08.600 Your

01:18:08.760 Question

01:18:09.180 Stephanie

01:18:09.720 And

01:18:11.480 I

01:18:11.660 Wonder

01:18:11.840 What

01:18:12.060 You

01:18:12.200 Think

01:18:12.500 About

01:18:12.900 Unruh

01:18:13.440 In

01:18:13.580 General

01:18:13.980 Well

01:18:14.700 They're

01:18:15.320 Involved

01:18:15.700 In

01:18:15.840 Murder

01:18:16.160 Like

01:18:17.360 It's

01:18:17.500 Been

01:18:17.640 Documented

01:18:18.780 Unruh

01:18:19.480 Itself

01:18:20.220 Its

01:18:20.540 Director

01:18:20.880 General

01:18:21.380 Admitted

01:18:22.020 Weeks

01:18:23.060 Ago

01:18:23.420 That

01:18:24.580 Member

01:18:26.040 Employees

01:18:26.860 Of

01:18:27.000 Unruh

01:18:27.400 Were

01:18:27.720 Involved

01:18:28.180 In

01:18:28.320 The

01:18:28.460 Atrocities

01:18:29.040 Of

01:18:29.220 October

01:18:29.520 7th

01:18:30.520 Now

01:18:31.040 What

01:18:31.260 The

01:18:31.420 Canadian

01:18:31.740 Government

01:18:32.180 Indicated

01:18:32.780 At

01:18:33.020 That

01:18:33.240 Point

01:18:33.600 When

01:18:33.900 It

01:18:34.060 Paused

01:18:34.800 Didn't

01:18:35.600 Stop

01:18:36.140 It

01:18:36.660 Only

01:18:36.840 Paused

01:18:37.500 Its

01:18:37.760 Funding

01:18:38.300 Of

01:18:38.760 Unruh

01:18:39.260 And

01:18:39.820 By

01:18:39.960 The

01:18:40.040 Way

01:18:40.140 It

01:18:40.240 Was

01:18:40.340 The

01:18:40.460 Harper

01:18:40.660 Government

01:18:41.020 That

01:18:41.220 Did

01:18:41.380 Stop

01:18:41.720 It

01:18:41.840 When

01:18:42.000 They

01:18:42.120 Were

01:18:42.260 In

01:18:42.420 Power

01:18:42.720 Yes

01:18:43.420 And

01:18:44.100 You

01:18:46.420 Know

01:18:46.640 They

01:18:47.560 Allowed

01:18:47.960 The

01:18:48.160 Funding

01:18:48.560 To

01:18:48.720 Go

01:18:48.900 Ahead

01:18:49.280 But

01:18:49.920 They

01:18:50.060 Said

01:18:50.240 They

01:18:50.360 Were

01:18:50.480 Going

01:18:50.600 To

01:18:50.680 Wait

01:18:50.840 For

01:18:51.000 The

01:18:51.120 Final

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01:26:45.920 Please don't visit me, Persephone phone

01:27:15.920 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

KINSELLACAST 304： Lilley, Belanger, Smyth and Brady - plus Jeff Rosenstock, Gladie and Sidney Gish

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