00:12:50.100Warren Kinsella, former special advisor to Jean Chrétien, CEO of the Daisy Group, and probably, I would say, one of the number one speakers against anti-Semitism. And for that, we appreciate you. Thank you, Warren.
00:13:04.040I should mention, because I think it's important that you have penned a number of pieces of following the dollar of where is the money coming from to support these protests. Like, where is the chain? You already laid out a number of, you know, pieces of who's backing these well-organized protests. But this one is like you lay out the underground manual created by a group called Palestine Action. And it takes, kind of puts the truth to these, these fallacies out there that we're seeing.
00:13:33.240Yeah. So, Palestine Action was formed about four years ago. They're mainly active in Britain, but they're a network that is found around the world. And certainly, the behavior and the actions of Palestine Action we're seeing in Canada all the time. Canada's got one of the worst anti-Semitic crime problems in the world.
00:13:53.940So, Palestine Action, this manual was given to me by a source. And now, I've confirmed that it is real. They confirmed authorship to me. They wouldn't talk about it, they said, because it's part of a criminal prosecution of them in Britain.
00:14:09.620This thing talks, Alex, about forming cells, secretive cells, you know, in the way that Bader Meinhof did or Abu Nidal or the IRA, keeping it small to avoid infiltration, picking the targets, and prepare for action.
00:14:24.980And the action they talk about is everything from smashing windows and exterior equipment. I'm quoting them here. Blocking pipes, going into a company using concrete, like those protesters did in Toronto a few days ago on the railway tracks and the junction.
00:14:40.280Disrupt the target. Disrupt the target. They talk about break-ins. Here's a quote. Breaking into your target and damaging the contents is obviously a very effective tactic.
00:14:50.340They talk about carrying only cash when buying equipment, whether it's spray paint or sledgehammers, and never to leave a digital trail.
00:14:58.260Like, it is a manual about how to instill terror in their targets, which most of the time are Jews and people who support the state of Israel.
00:15:09.540Yeah, I mean, everything from we'll get you a lawyer, you got access. I mean, it's not the first time at the rodeo for them, right?
00:15:17.060You've been seeing, obviously, what's going on in the United States. But look, this has been going on now for seven months.
00:15:22.740We would not put up with this nonsense from anybody. We certainly didn't put it up with the convoys.
00:15:29.100And Warren, we didn't see any of the stuff that we're seeing for the last seven months with the convoys, as much as they were an aggravation.
00:15:35.640And yet there was so much more done to denounce it. I mean, it shouldn't be lost on anyone that the prime minister and all his ministers were on Twitter or social media last night denouncing what was going on in Ottawa.
00:15:47.100And my first takeaway is, well, that's great. But where have you been for seven months? Because it's happening.
00:15:51.640But when's it going to stop? Because these groups can be looked into. Who's looking into them?
00:15:56.640Well, and they, you know, you can go back even further than the convoy stuff to take a look at.
00:16:04.040We have taken action about this type of activity in the past.
00:16:07.400The same stuff that is happening now, firebombings of businesses and shooting up of schools and public buildings and threats, you know, attacking politicians and citizens.
00:16:18.540Like all of that stuff is happening. And the stuff about colonial institutions and colonists, that all happened with the FLQ, right, in Quebec and in the rest of Canada in the 70s.
00:16:30.760And ironically, ironically, it was Justin's father who said enough is enough and said, you know, just watch me.
00:16:39.220And he brought down the hammer and he threw these guys in jail and he used the laws that he had.
00:16:44.820Justin has laws that he can deploy, you know, support for a terrorist group, as happened on Parliament Hill, like right outside the windows of Justin's office on Saturday.
00:16:55.600They were there, not just, as you pointed out, pledging allegiance to Hamas.
00:17:01.200They were paying tribute to October 7th when 1,200 men, women, children and babies were slaughtered.
00:17:08.680Like they were saying, long live October 7th.
00:17:11.700So that is a criminal offense. Like that's something that we can do something about.
00:17:15.760They've been promoting hatred against an identifiable group here, obviously Jews.
00:17:20.080Like Justin's father knew what to do with far fewer laws back in the 70s.
00:17:24.580Why isn't this guy acting now? We've got the legislative framework to do it, but he's not doing anything other than issuing a couple of tweets.
00:17:33.000Yeah, I mean, look, my cynical side says, A, they have been putting a butt cheek on both sides of the fence because they don't want to ruin the votes.
00:17:40.640They don't want to they want to pay. This is about votes. Right.
00:17:42.500And we're seeing in the United States, there's a lot of pandering to domestic politics, which is, you know, might help them down the road.
00:17:48.400But it's certainly creating a lot of permanent dangers and damage to both countries, I think, on this.
00:17:54.580But what's he going to do? Call the Emergencies Act? He already did that.
00:17:57.260And we don't need the Emergencies Act for this because, Warren, we've got laws in the books.
00:18:00.720We just need people to actually be charged that you can't come into this country and or you can't be in this country and promote terror or you can't, you know, chant death to whatever.
00:18:12.000Right. And, you know, if that is his calculated, cynical, you know, political motive here, well, there's 400,000 Jews in Canada and there's four times as many Muslims.
00:18:24.260Well, I'm going to favor the latter over the former.
00:18:27.060Well, you know, number one, like the National Council of Canadian Muslims condemned the synagogue attack in Toronto over the weekend before Trudeau ever did.
00:18:37.200Actually, I don't think Trudeau has yet. But number two, it's not working.
00:18:40.620If that's his strategy, it's not working.
00:18:43.060But all of the leading Muslim groups have said to him, we don't want to see you during the election campaign.
00:18:48.320You're not allowed to come into our mosques. So if that is his cynical, craven strategy, even that ain't working because he's angered the Muslim side as well.
00:18:59.020So the focus should be the one thing we've seen, you know, out of the attack that took place by Iran on Israel.
00:19:06.120It was it was wonderful with the Saudi Arabia, the Jordanians, the UAE actually intervened militarily to protect Israel.
00:19:15.580Now, that tells us here that there's no downside in Justin Trudeau acting against this pro Hamas mob, including the people who are there in front of his office on Saturday.
00:19:27.040Like there would be a lot of support from that across the board from Jews and Muslims, but he's not doing it.
00:19:32.980And it's just it's cowardly. Yeah. And it's not the first time they have they have protested at his office many, many times.
00:19:39.780But again, having said all this, where do we go from here? Because this is not stopping.
00:19:46.560And, you know, I think it would be very easy to look into these particular organizations.
00:19:50.980We've seen France. We've seen Germany. They're turfing people out of the country.
00:19:54.540If you're a student, if you're not a permanent resident, you're done like we are.
00:19:57.960There are things we can do to send a message that you can't come into this country and bring your terror beliefs or your dangers with you.
00:20:06.060But I don't think anyone has the political, you know, the testicular fortitude to do that.
00:20:12.140Well, I think you're quite right, because there are things all of us can do.
00:20:14.760So as we just talked about, you know, the politicians at all levels, right.
00:20:19.140Trudeau with his jurisdiction over the criminal code, Ford with his jurisdiction over prosecutors and and Olivia Chow with her jurisdiction over the police.
00:20:27.200All of them can and should be doing things. But, you know, it's not just that.
00:20:31.640Those of us in the media need to be digging into this. As you pointed out, I've been spending months trying to figure out where the money is coming from and who's doing the organization.
00:20:40.180Because clearly this thing is organized. Just one week ago today, we saw capitalism, basically institutions shut down around the globe.
00:20:50.580From where there is O'Hare's airport in Chicago to streets in downtown Ottawa.
00:20:56.900Like it is an organized effort. And as citizens, like I encourage everybody, speak up.
00:21:02.420Don't be intimidated by these thugs. Oppose them.
00:21:05.480Because the majority, the vast majority of Canadians are on side.
00:21:09.600And they believe, as we do, that Israel has a right to defend itself and anti-Semitism is wrong.
00:21:14.320Yeah. But I would say this, you know, when I heard the premier say that, you know, there's no need to look into universities or anything to get funding.
00:21:22.440I was like, really? What a lost opportunity. He can't be serious. Right.
00:21:26.440No. And there's symbolic things, too, like the CAFIA and the legislature.
00:21:30.620You know, it's against the rules of the legislature.
00:21:32.800You know, the Speaker of the House of Commons in Ottawa is a lost cause.
00:21:36.900He's allowed it there. But the Speaker at Queen's Park did the right thing by saying, look, you know, if I do that, if I open the door to that, there's going to be a whole bunch of other stuff happening as well.
00:21:47.440We need to have decorum and decency in our legislature.
00:21:50.480So he said no. So that was that was a good decision.
00:21:53.260That was something good that happened last week.
00:21:55.620But there's many more things that the politicians can and should be doing.
00:21:58.600Yeah, that's a Pandora's box they should stay away from.
00:22:02.000And, you know, for that person that wants to show up with their white robes on and, you know, a pointy white hat, I don't think they'd be OK with that either.
00:22:08.700Warren, I appreciate it. We'll talk again.
00:26:14.580And we're back, and we're back with my buddy Brian Lilly.
00:26:32.120And Brian, this week I thought we could talk about kind of the zeitgeist of the country, the mood of the country, which seems in equal measure to be kind of sad and angry and pessimistic and so on.
00:26:48.120And you see that in all kinds of different indicators, housing and our politics and, you know, the wars that are happening abroad and all that kind of stuff.
00:26:58.800People, I mean, tell me if I'm wrong, but people seem to be in a pretty crummy mood these days in Canada.
00:27:04.700Well, you were posting a story earlier in the weekend about 23% of the Canadian population says they experience food insecurity.
00:27:15.080Um, I was interviewing Pierre Polyev at the Daily Bread Food Bank just over a week ago, and the executive director there is telling us, like, Daily Bread feeds one out of 10 Torontonians at some point throughout each and every month.
00:27:35.920Um, Ipsos poll, and this one is shocking to me, eight and 10 believe that owning a home in Canada is now only for the rich.
00:27:46.060And I saw that poll from our friend, Daryl Bricker, and I thought, oh, that's, that's just got to be young people.
00:28:18.280It's people, so you add all these things up and, you know, Justin Trudeau is saying the system's not working for people.
00:28:27.880That was one of his messages this week, and that's why he's got this giant wealth transfer budget, but they're not, they don't believe that he's got the answers anymore.
00:28:36.780And, and by the way, that the system used to work for people before you were in office.
00:28:45.700The, um, let's talk about Polyev and Trudeau, and maybe Polyev first.
00:28:51.280So you've spent time with him in the past few days.
00:28:53.880You know, some time ago, he started talking about the country being broken, and I disagree with him.
00:28:59.880Uh, I thought, no, the country's not broken, our politics are broken, but when you hear statistics like that, maybe he was right and I was wrong.
00:29:08.920Maybe people do feel that Canada doesn't work for them anymore, and, you know, they're despairing in the choices they've got.
00:29:16.240Do you think that, just, so I guess this is Polyev's view.
00:29:31.880Um, one of his ideas on the issue of, uh, housing is something that, that Trudeau was talking about this week, but they're coming at it from very different points of view.
00:29:43.560So, as we just mentioned the Ipsos poll, 80% don't think that they'll be able to afford a home.
00:29:49.280Well, Polyev says, we've got thousands of parcels of surplus land, thousands of surplus government buildings that the federal government owns that we don't need anymore.
00:30:03.660Polyev's plan would include selling them off to develop them into housing.
00:30:08.540Trudeau's plan, which he was very adamant about this week, is he will do 99-year leases for affordable home rentals, geared to rental, or geared to income rental housing with long-term leases so that land stays public.
00:30:25.040Well, if people are worried about not being able to own a home, and your solution is to build government-owned apartment blocks, well, guess what?
00:30:37.920Um, it, and look, everyone's trying to rush around on housing and act like they've got the magic bullet, and you see this in fights between provincial governments and municipal and the federal and the provincial.
00:30:55.240It took us a long time to get into this mess, and no one single issue is going to change it.
00:31:02.880I would say Polyev does have a pretty comprehensive plan.
00:31:06.760The liberals mocked it for a full year and claimed he didn't have one, and now they are meticulously going through it and stealing policy after policy, then putting their own twist on it, like with the public lands that I just mentioned.
00:31:20.800I think, I think, I think there could be, uh, a, a, a mix, absolutely, you know, have the government own some of them for affordable rentals, but don't make that the whole thing.
00:31:31.840I, I used to live, um, uh, the home I, one of the homes I owned in Ottawa backed onto a parcel of surplus land.
00:31:40.480Everyone thought it was part of the green belt.
00:31:43.660It was the Department of Lands, Mines, and something else.
00:31:48.040Like, those were the signs on the trees, a department that ceased existing in the 60s sometime, and, and they didn't need the land anymore.
00:31:56.700So it was sold off, and it was all kinds of mixed-use homes.
00:32:31.040Um, I think it's possible, you know my view, that it could be his last budget.
00:32:36.080Um, it really had a Hail Mary pass kind of feel to it, and all of the numbers, all of the polling subsequently has shown, it really hasn't moved the needle.
00:32:47.040I mean, there's been Frank Graves at Ecos, but nobody's taking that seriously.
00:32:51.360All of the others show that the deficit that Trudeau had, you know, 15 to 20 points, has remained.
00:32:58.040Um, you know, he, I think, wanted, wanted to improve circumstance for himself and his party, but that budget didn't do it, did it?
00:33:08.280No, it didn't, and for everyone pointing to that 11-point gap poll that Graves came out with, I want to read you one of his tweets.
00:33:32.220No, Frankie doesn't like that I, you know, resurrected his tweet and will continue to do so, but, you know, he claims, he acts as if this is the only time he's been hyper-partisan.
00:33:42.860It's not, and I don't think his polling numbers match up or make sense.
00:33:49.280Whether it's Abacus, Angus Reid, Ipsos, they all show the same Ipsos app by generation.
00:33:54.860They put out Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X, and Boomers, and with Gen Z, it's like 38% are voting, say they'll vote for Polyev and the Conservatives.
00:34:09.120The Liberals are in the third spot at 23%, just behind the NDP.
00:34:13.520With Gen Z, those are the guys they're really focused on, and with Millennials, it's not much better.
00:34:19.420The Conservatives are at 40%, the Liberals are at 28%, just ahead of the NDP.
00:34:25.560So it didn't work, and that's why you're seeing him try to link Polyev to a guy that Polyev's never met, and that most Canadians would have to Google and say, who's this guy?
00:34:39.240You know, people obsessed with politics know who Alex Jones is, but the average person in Canada doesn't.
00:34:45.960The average American conservative doesn't.
00:34:47.700Alex Jones is, he owns more real estate in the heads of people on the left than he does anywhere else, because there's this obsession with him.
00:34:58.620He is not relevant in the, even in American conservative circles, and you know that I know a lot of the big names down there.
00:35:12.940Like, it looks pathetic, you know, all of this stuff that they're trying.
00:35:17.500And it looks like they just continue to make mistakes, but they're not the only ones.
00:35:21.720You know, full disclosure, I've done some work for the Doug Ford government in the past, communication stuff.
00:35:28.100You've got friends and family who are, you know, part of that government or close to that government.
00:35:35.580And Doug Ford, I think he got hurt by this keffiyeh stuff.
00:35:42.260Like, I think you and I have the same view.
00:35:44.820We've got other issues to deal with other than the keffiyeh.
00:35:49.520But it has become a symbol of indifference to the plight of the Jewish people at the present time, in my view.
00:35:59.700But it's also a very strongly politicized symbol, which is why you've got white, liberal legislators in provincial and federal parliaments wearing it.
00:36:14.520Only when they talk about Israel or vote about UNRWA and they make the raised hand fist symbol, you know, they're doing it for very political reasons.
00:36:26.440And our legislatures have long had rules against that.
00:36:31.000Like, you know, the example I keep using is 100 years ago, someone showing up in their orange sash from the Orange Lodge could have caused violence inside and outside the legislature.
00:36:57.320But the NDP came out, Merritt Stiles, the Ontario NDP leader, says they're going to keep defying the legislature and run protests to overturn this.
00:37:08.260And they're saying, Doug Ford better overturn it.
00:37:10.000Well, Merritt Stiles has been around long enough to know that it's the Speaker and not the government that makes this decision.
00:37:48.840I know that Galen Naidoo Harris, who, you know, I definitely know from his mother's side that he's got Indian background via South Africa, because that's her background.
00:38:04.000The last name Harris in there, that's a pretty Scottish name.
00:38:07.460I guess he's been celebrating his culture by wearing a keffiyeh ever since this became an issue.
00:38:14.060But he's the only guy that didn't show up at a debate with the Muslim community during the week.
00:39:23.120Obviously, he's tapped into the mood of the country.
00:39:25.840You know, he wouldn't have the support he does if he hadn't.
00:39:28.340But it's just, it really feels like right now, you know, it's just as a general principle, general observation, that our political leadership are letting us down.
00:39:39.500You know, instead of lifting up the country, the country really feels let down.
00:41:56.220They're making decisions not based on facts and evidence.
00:41:59.940Like they always like to claim they're following agendas that lead you to this.
00:42:06.800There's nothing compassionate about letting somebody just do fentanyl and never offering them help until they die.
00:42:13.260So we have an obligation to lift up our fellow citizens, whether they're Jews or people who are addicted or people who are struggling to get by.
00:42:28.460It doesn't feel like our governments are doing that at present time.
00:42:31.480But hopefully, hopefully there will be some change in the future.
00:42:35.660So my friend, have a great day and a great week ahead.
00:42:39.180I'm going to be heading off to Israel at the end of the week, following in your footsteps and hoping to do some great journalism like you did when I'm over there.
00:46:23.560I kind of find it hard to believe we're still kind of getting some reaction on the federal budget because it has not gone well for the liberals.
00:46:29.280But this capital gains reaction has kind of come out a lot this week.
00:46:32.420So we're seeing doctors kind of pile up.
00:46:34.520I think from what we've seen so far – we just had a real estate agent on last hour.
00:46:38.540I think from what we've seen so far, you know, I think the intention may have been good here.
00:46:43.080We'll give it to the benefit of the doubt.
00:46:53.680Was this wise political wrangling here from the liberals to put this tax in place?
00:46:59.020Well, they didn't do it in a smart way.
00:47:01.300I think if you're going to do the tax the rich scenario, then the only way to do that is to tax an income bracket.
00:47:08.540Because once you go after subgroups of people, what happens is they organize and they make noise and they start agitating.
00:47:16.540Because they are the ones on the line.
00:47:18.300And it's just like the milk lobby and Maxine Bernier and the conservative leadership race, you know, about I don't know how many years ago now.
00:47:25.420When you upset one group, they will organize to oust you or destroy your ambitions or whatever because they've got so much at stake.
00:47:33.920So this is what's happened here is that groups that have been targeted by this particular change have an agenda and an interest in fighting, and they will.
00:48:31.320Listen, like, nobody likes taxes to go up, especially when it's our taxes.
00:48:35.720So, of course, people will fight back.
00:48:38.420And I think the liberals have misunderstood the impact on people because they were claiming that only 1% or less than 1% of Canadians will be affected by this.
00:48:50.220But the truth is that that's year to year.
00:48:53.140That's when, you know, people make those capital gains in one year over a quarter million dollars.
00:48:59.340And when you look at the reality, you have, like, over 4 million people who have properties, more than two properties.
00:49:06.140You have over 10% of Canadians who have a college.
00:49:08.820So, eventually, they will be affected by this measure.
00:49:12.820And it's like taxing the dream, right?
00:49:15.700The dream of that investment, the dream of that property that will now go to the government.
00:49:43.940And I was wondering, Warren, just kind of more to Carl's point, too.
00:49:46.460Was there perhaps a trap here being laid that the liberals were trying to lull the Conservatives into to, you know, defend the rich or whatever you have you?
00:49:54.520But it seems like the Liberals kind of didn't, or the Conservatives didn't take that bait.
00:50:01.480And I agree with much of what my colleagues say.
00:50:04.020But, you know, in preparation for this morning, I was reading a fine post-media newspaper.
00:50:09.440And that had a column in it talking about what both Carl and Tash have said, which is that this change, this tax change, from what my former boss, John Cretchen, did so many years ago, is unfair.
00:50:24.520And destructive, you know, to people who take risk in economies.
00:50:28.400And to doctors and tech people, who the Trudeau government, you know, usually says it wants to attract more of.
00:50:36.360And anyway, it was a very, very tough column against this change.
00:50:40.520And it was written by two guys named Dwight Duncan and John Manley.
00:51:03.580I mean, they're going to do it on June 25th.
00:51:05.700But in terms of selling it to people, they haven't.
00:51:08.040And just to follow on that, Warren, you know, if this was the messaging, we're trying to make this more fair, as I mentioned, do you think, did they go, was this the right way to do it?
00:51:16.900To Tash's point, you know, was it making a new income bracket, for example?
00:51:19.820Was this kind of the wrong way to kind of go about this messaging?
00:51:23.240I think, no, I think you could actually do it.
00:51:35.760And, you know, we've reached now the point, you know, every week the three of us come on with you, Andrew, and we, you know, declare that the patient is dead.
00:51:56.680They could come up with a cure for the common cold, and I think most people would doubt it or be opposed to it.
00:52:02.880It's just nobody believes anything that comes out of their mouths anymore, and the polls reflect that.
00:52:08.680Well, and just to follow up on that, because I've been saying something very similar about Trudeau's attacks about Pierre Pauly, that they're not necessarily wrong or bad attacks,
00:52:18.240but it feels like, you know, people are just upset with the messenger and kind of tuning this prime minister out at this point.
00:52:23.040So, you know, similarly, we did see Pauly visit some convoy-like protesters this week, and the prime minister immediately did kind of pivot, started jumping on this Alex Jones stuff and conspiracy theorists.
00:52:34.100And I was kind of wondering, you know, is that message not going to work just because people are sick of the messenger at this point?
00:54:33.140But it doesn't allow Trudeau to push back in the same way, because you can just turn around and look at him.
00:54:38.880And to the point we made earlier, he's not a popular messenger in any quarter, really.
00:54:44.580I did want to say one thing about the budget, because it is important just to bring that back.
00:54:48.940Polling was done about how people felt about that change.
00:54:51.280And 71%, according to a Spark poll that I had read, said that almost everyone's going to pay more because of that capital gains change.
00:54:59.260So clearly the messenger didn't get it out that it was for the 1%.
00:55:03.620And what you're seeing now with Polyev, too, I don't think it's going to permeate the same way it would have, say, even six months ago.
00:55:11.280Carl, just a couple of things on that.
00:55:13.160I guess in terms of Polyev's visit with these protesters this week, do you think that he did more harm than good in terms of his election prospects?
00:55:22.280Well, it should be the case, but it is not the case, because I think people don't care.
00:55:27.040It's been with these type of protesters before, and you want the leadership anyway.
00:55:32.800It was not a liability, even though it should be.
00:55:35.300And I think you're seeing that more and more in politics, and you certainly see that south of the border,
00:55:40.920where the moderate Republicans will still enable Donald Trump.
00:55:46.220And here, the moderate conservatives will still enable Pierre Polyev, no matter what he does.
01:00:55.600The Liberals do not have that counter narrative.
01:00:57.840And I don't know that they will be able to come up with one now at this stage.
01:01:00.840Yeah, and I don't know if it's too late to come up with one at this stage.
01:01:03.660But it's definitely fascinating to watch.
01:01:05.720Tasha, I guess it is a big challenge, obviously.
01:01:09.740And the premiers seem to be a barrier to this.
01:01:11.840Do you think this is the biggest challenge or political football that the Liberals kind of have right now?
01:01:17.660Well, it's ironic because this is really, I mean, the only, apart from legalizing marijuana, legacy project this government has.
01:01:25.980The idea was we're going to, you know, contribute to climate change, set Canada on a path to net zero, do our part, have this progressive incremental increase in the carbon tax over time.
01:01:40.060That's going to, you know, that's what we're doing.
01:01:54.440And that's what you're seeing, because if the tax isn't there, you know, people would, they blame something else.
01:02:00.580The Liberals, it's difficult for them to say, well, things are up because of other things, because those other things, like inflation, you know, interest rates, all those things, people will say, well, you didn't do anything about that either.
01:02:12.260Right. So there's nothing they can point to and say, well, you know, we it's it's it's it's something else that's not our fault.
01:02:20.180It ends up being in people's minds. It's still their fault.
01:02:23.480So they're they're stuck. I think they'll stay with it.
01:02:26.020I think they'll go, you know, the ship will sort of sink down into the under the iceberg there with the carbon tax on board.
01:02:34.220I mean, the next government would repeal it if it was a conservative government, which it probably will be.
01:02:37.960But what will they do instead in terms of the environment?
01:02:42.260Not clear. So, you know, it might come back someday in a different form.
01:02:48.420But for now, I think the Liberals don't really have a choice but to stay with it, because otherwise it is basically undoing everything they came there to do.
01:02:56.120I'm kind of summing up the fascination of politics and timing there in one succinct answer as well.
01:03:01.300But we'll leave it there for this weekend.
01:03:03.140Carl, Warren and Tasha, thanks so much for your time. I really appreciate it.