00:04:45.200And then on the other side of the rotted gates, Montreal police sat in a cruiser watching the encampment.
00:04:50.080And another cruiser was parked on the other side of Sherbrooke Street.
00:04:53.260And further east, some paddy wagons had been parked around the corner, not as easily seen, but they were there.
00:04:59.280Earlier, two Jewish students had brought an application for an injunction in Quebec Superior Court to get the anti-Israel protesters removed.
00:05:07.460McGill stupidly took no position, and it was weird because they'd been objecting to the occupation of their land.
00:05:18.040Anyway, the judge in that case rejected the students' application, saying they'd fail to show irreparable harm.
00:05:23.100But, like, to accuse someone of genocide, you know, murder on a mass scale, based upon race or ethnicity or religion,
00:05:39.140there's no more irreparable harm than that, short of violence.
00:05:44.860And, like, at McGill and in campuses across North America, in May of 2024, genocide is what Israel and its allies are being accused of falsely over and over and over.
00:05:57.460I'm going to have more to say about this in the days ahead from Israel.
00:06:02.040And I suspect when I'm there, I'm going to have lots of Israelis saying to me,
00:06:07.040has the world abandoned us? Have they let us go?
00:06:10.460I'm going to talk about that some more later on in the podcast.
00:43:30.840One of the things that happens in politics when you work in politics is what happens afterwards, the politics.
00:43:42.180So memoirs and books get written, political scientists hold conferences, students analyze strategies and tactics and essays, historians endlessly debate important events.
00:43:53.180And the weird thing is that when you're working politics in a campaign or government or opposition, you don't actually get weighted down very often by the historical significance of it all.
00:44:02.660Like you're just doing the job and you're trying to avoid disaster.
00:44:06.660You don't sit around wondering if historians will scrutinize what you did on a particular day or at a certain moment.
00:44:12.500And what's happening right now in real life is like that.
00:44:14.740Jews have been killed and raped and kidnapped and attacked and terrorized.
00:44:19.880And a whole lot of people, the majority of people, it seems, are just shrugging.
00:44:27.920Convincing yourself that something doesn't have anything to do with you, something people do all the time, of course, like a fatal crash on a highway you use, a neighborhood kid drowning in a summer camp.
00:45:03.960But what if there's a Holocaust and a nation at the center of Europe is methodically killing millions of people because they happen to belong to a certain religion, you know, where I am right now?
00:45:14.160Or what if those same people, their children and grandchildren, are the ones now being killed and terrorized all over the world?
00:45:22.060That's when you're supposed to pay attention.
00:45:24.400Like, that's when you're supposed to get involved.
00:45:26.780That's when you're supposed to raise your voice and say, no, never again, no.
00:45:30.080But that's not really happening, is it?
00:45:33.700Now, when Jews talk about how scared they are, other people, their neighbors, their work colleagues, their friends, sometimes roll their eyes.
00:45:49.520But that's how many Jews are feeling since October 7th.
00:45:54.900For about five minutes, the world made sympathetic noises about the fact that 1,200 innocent people, men, women, children, babies, had been rounded up and slaughtered.
00:46:03.740For about two minutes, the world expressed dismay about sexual violence experienced by Jewish women and girls.
00:46:09.720For about a minute, they thought about the hundreds of Jews who had been kidnapped.
00:46:12.860And then quite a few people started denying it or dismissing it or getting up and changing the channel of the playoffs.
00:46:20.520Again, it's unrealistic to expect people to be preoccupied by every tragedy.
00:46:28.500But when innocent people are slaughtered on a mass scale, when scores of them are tortured and raped, when all that happens is happening because of their religion,
00:46:37.120that's when lingering in the sidelines, yawning, isn't so acceptable anymore.
00:46:44.100Which leads us to this moment in time, and to be frank, all of us.
00:46:48.580Like, what are we doing right now to express disapproval about mass murder and rape and now a worldwide orgy of Jew hatred?
00:46:56.080Like, the minority who support Hamas and want to see Israel wiped off the map, who are mostly young people, tragically,