kinsellacast - KINSELLACAST 317： A bad week for Joe and Justin, with Adler, Lilley, Kheiriddin, Brady, Belanger - plus Wilderado, Graduating Life, Hot Water Music, Michael Cera Palin, Joey Cape & Tony Sly

00:00:00.000 it's the Kinsella cast starring Warren Kinsella

00:00:08.460 hey it's Warren welcome to the Kinsella cast I'm up in the woods up at the cabin with dogs

00:00:19.020 he's on the way with Sinead the cat and we spent a couple days up here writing and doing other

00:00:28.500 things taking it easy and it rained like hell last night and said like this place has got a metal

00:00:36.780 roof so it's like sleeping under a snare drum it was pretty loud but I can't complain not true

00:00:45.000 of Justin Trudeau and Joe Biden however they can complain about their lot and so I've got them on

00:00:50.340 the little graphic for this week's podcast both of them had big big losses this week

00:00:57.240 and with all kinds of ramifications for both men and so the week concluded with both men being

00:01:05.640 urged to depart by members of their own party for different reasons so we'll talk about that

00:01:11.880 with Brian Lilly and Charles Adler Charles is back very happy about that Tasha Carradine Carl Belanger

00:01:20.340 today Greg Brady and I talking before the by-election and I wanted to play that for you

00:01:26.880 you can see Warren gets things wrong Warren often gets things wrong so you know humiliate me come at

00:01:35.040 me and some great music um Will Dorado it's great great song called Bad Luck just love this tune

00:01:44.160 then a bit more punky with graduation life uh graduating life not graduation life a band that

00:01:52.840 was unknown to me and was stinky man hot water music who I've seen a million times it's got Canadian

00:01:58.400 content there's a proud boy from Whitby in the hot water music trusty chords from an EP that I've got

00:02:07.060 probably the first thing I bought about hot water music 20 years ago I think band with a great name

00:02:15.600 Michael Sarah Palin

00:02:17.360 and uh covering a song I'm not going to tell you the song I want you to figure out who um it's the cover

00:02:26.620 of but it it's really well done and um and then uh two guys uh Joey Cape is the front man

00:02:37.040 of this band called Lag Wagon I'm not wild about and Tony Sly was um the front man of another band

00:02:47.160 called no you uh no use for a name he's gone now I mean the two of them did this song and this can

00:02:53.380 show you we punk rockers were capable of getting in an acoustic guitar as well as the next guy

00:02:58.580 or gal and um so their song violins so good show I think I think you're gonna like um maybe it'll make

00:03:08.560 you happy but again Justin and Joe not happy and you know full disclosure you guys know I supported

00:03:15.420 Obama worked for Hillary different states worked at our headquarters worked the phones for Joe during

00:03:23.440 the pandemic so I'm kind of I've always been a Democrat definitely not involved in a Canadian

00:03:29.460 political parties anymore I don't think I I should be and be a newspaper columnist

00:03:34.920 um so I'm a Democrat and um you know I I like Joe Biden I have great affection for him

00:03:44.680 I wanted to get rid of Donald Trump the whole world did and Joe was the reason for that but also

00:03:50.900 because he is a good and decent man and he you know he reminded me a lot of Jean Chrétien

00:03:58.600 Chrétien older than his opponents mangled grammar and syntax underestimated all the time

00:04:08.500 well Chrétien did okay and Biden reminded me of that you know and you know both guys won when

00:04:16.160 everybody said they wouldn't so um like Joe Biden anyway Thursday night

00:04:22.520 like the rest of the world I was said I wasn't expecting Biden to do a home run

00:04:30.160 um you know it's hard to get a word in edgewise when you're surrounded by

00:04:35.640 what you're you've got beside you're debating in quotation marks this maniac on meth this monkey

00:04:43.680 with a machine gun um but it was terrible and I was depressed and no I was shocked then I was

00:04:52.520 depressed now I'm angry I'll tell you why in a minute like it was the worst fucking political

00:04:57.140 debate in the history of political debates Trump looked insane and was insane but Biden looked like

00:05:03.960 something was really wrong and you know so you know people are saying oh well you know Trump has

00:05:10.260 been in decline too but and my point is yeah but so what right everybody knows he's a maniac that's

00:05:17.420 why a lot of people vote for him because they're maniacs too they want somebody who's going to break

00:05:21.840 government and like he he was himself but Joe was not himself and you know I suspect like a lot of

00:05:32.680 people I started googling afterwards because I couldn't sleep what I saw this shadow of a man

00:05:41.940 shadow of his former self pale halting stiff not finishing sentences losing his train of thought

00:05:52.840 um just a couple times he even had his mouth hanging open I was yelling at the tv close your mouth close

00:06:00.900 your mouth look down use the pad of paper use the pen that they gave you and you know somebody said to

00:06:07.160 me it was it was like Parkinson's and it and it kind of looks like that but who knows anyway um

00:06:14.840 Trudeau I think was happy with it and I talk about that on CFRE and with Brian and Adler because

00:06:22.800 I really do think now a lot of people in Canada hoped and believed that Biden was going to win I don't

00:06:29.280 think Biden can win now it was that bad and that helps Trudeau because you don't a lot you don't a lot

00:06:36.620 of people don't want Pierre Polyev as prime minister if Donald Trump's in the White House

00:06:42.740 wasn't just a disaster for us citizens however like NATO it's gone if Trump comes back

00:06:52.440 um Ukraine it's gone Baltic states gone Taiwan gone European Union retreats into itself

00:07:02.340 and it's becoming crazy there I mean the Tories are going to lose in Britain this week but Macron is

00:07:08.560 going to lose I think a lot of space to the national front anyway so it worries lots of people

00:07:15.720 Trump coming back you know and this notion that Gavin Newsom or whoever can step in and take over

00:07:23.280 you can't like you know in the 25th amendment the presidency goes to Kamala Harris that's just the way

00:07:30.320 it works and she's even less popular than Joe at the moment so the only way they can pull this off

00:07:36.360 in the next five weeks or so is a contested convention and I don't know if they can do that

00:07:40.140 because they seem to be in denial and I'm mad at those people White House staff Democratic

00:07:45.480 establishment some of Biden's family they clearly lied to us about Joe Biden's fitness for another term

00:07:52.300 they lied like the FDR deception nothing compared to this but anyway on this Canada Day weekend

00:08:02.400 thank God I'm a Canadian thank God you're a Canadian and thank God we live here

00:08:10.100 happiness seems to happen less when you go where the seasons best winter snows and summer sets

00:08:30.420 sad love boy I don't be shy I had a roll in the lonely night of alcohol and cigarettes

00:08:40.420 but if it goes well you find another find a hotel you try another try you can sell they run in the corners of their own hair

00:08:58.420 there I'll be waiting to pass

00:09:04.420 father son and the Holy Ghost who's the one that we need the most as easy come easy go

00:09:22.420 Come, easy go

00:09:24.240 I'll get older and then I'll die

00:09:29.400 I should know when to say goodbye

00:09:31.760 And shake the hand, meet the eye

00:09:35.280 But if it goes well

00:09:39.320 You find a line and find a hotel

00:09:43.800 You try another, try and care

00:09:49.100 Sailing around in the corners of your own

00:09:54.360 Have you had a way in your mind?

00:10:19.100 But if it goes well

00:10:23.140 You find a line and find a hotel

00:10:27.440 You try another, try and care

00:10:32.840 Later on in the corners of your own

00:10:38.040 Have you had a way in your mind?

00:10:43.240 Anything goes well

00:10:48.500 I'm a way in your mind

00:10:54.340 Anything goes well

00:10:58.500 I'm a way in your mind

00:11:05.240 Anything goes well

00:11:09.240 Have you had a way in your mind?

00:11:15.500 I'm a way in your mind

00:11:16.500 I'm a way in your mind

00:11:17.500 I'm a way in your mind

00:11:18.500 I'm a way in your mind

00:11:20.500 Have you had a way in your mind?

00:11:25.500 And we're back

00:11:28.560 And I'm so happy

00:11:29.940 I'm overjoyed

00:11:31.580 I'm delighted

00:11:32.380 Fill in the blank

00:11:33.940 To be back with my great friend

00:11:36.100 My old friend

00:11:36.940 Charles Adler

00:11:38.460 And Charles

00:11:39.860 So just so happy you're here

00:11:42.980 But also wanted to suggest

00:11:45.180 Kind of a different approach

00:11:47.740 To our segment here

00:11:49.560 And like you are a professional

00:11:51.880 You're one of the best there is

00:11:53.520 At asking questions

00:11:54.540 I'm so-so at asking questions

00:11:57.040 So I thought

00:11:57.840 Just for this

00:11:59.660 And in the future

00:12:01.040 We just do two old friends

00:12:03.040 Having a conversation

00:12:04.040 What do you think?

00:12:05.520 Great name for a podcast

00:12:06.460 Two old friends

00:12:07.680 Having a conversation

00:12:09.260 And I too am ebullient

00:12:10.780 And enthusiastic

00:12:11.940 And ecstatic

00:12:12.700 About our

00:12:14.120 How often

00:12:15.840 Has this marriage

00:12:17.440 That's been dissolved

00:12:18.440 From time to time

00:12:18.940 How often have we reunited?

00:12:20.760 Is this the

00:12:21.320 Six or seven times?

00:12:23.400 Yeah

00:12:23.600 And we

00:12:25.300 I think

00:12:26.540 You know

00:12:26.840 I've been on your show

00:12:27.820 In Winnipeg

00:12:29.060 In Vancouver

00:12:29.840 And everywhere

00:12:31.840 It's got to be

00:12:33.780 Close to 25 years

00:12:35.240 That we've been talking

00:12:36.220 25 years

00:12:37.220 Maybe longer

00:12:37.720 We were also doing

00:12:38.440 The SiriusXM

00:12:39.440 Thing for a little while

00:12:41.480 That's right

00:12:41.980 That's right

00:12:42.580 I forgot about that

00:12:43.140 And also

00:12:43.640 Sun News Network

00:12:45.940 RIP

00:12:46.680 And so we've been

00:12:48.800 Doing it in lots

00:12:49.380 Of different places

00:12:50.160 So delighted

00:12:51.380 You're here

00:12:52.160 We've played

00:12:52.720 More gold diamonds

00:12:54.520 Than the blue jays

00:12:55.360 But we're gonna

00:12:56.100 I think

00:12:56.960 I think we ought to

00:12:57.680 I think we ought to

00:12:58.580 Jump right into

00:12:59.240 The biggest controversy

00:13:00.320 In the world right now

00:13:01.900 And that is

00:13:02.940 Whether or not

00:13:03.760 Joe Biden

00:13:04.600 Will do what

00:13:05.720 The New York Times

00:13:06.540 Editorial

00:13:08.160 And others are

00:13:09.040 Telling him to do

00:13:09.720 And I've got my hand up

00:13:11.500 Because I wrote my column

00:13:12.660 I guess

00:13:13.020 Everybody should read

00:13:15.020 Your column

00:13:15.460 Everybody should read

00:13:16.380 Charles' column

00:13:17.040 In the Winnipeg Free Press

00:13:18.240 And if you have to

00:13:19.060 Pay for it

00:13:19.580 Pay for it

00:13:20.060 It's worth it

00:13:20.640 Well the thing is

00:13:22.100 That the only reason

00:13:23.880 Joe Biden

00:13:24.540 Became the president

00:13:26.300 Was not because

00:13:27.300 Joe Biden was

00:13:28.020 Incredibly popular

00:13:28.960 And the greatest orator

00:13:30.680 Since Winston Churchill

00:13:31.720 And all that stuff

00:13:32.780 He was perceived

00:13:34.080 As the one who was

00:13:35.200 Best able

00:13:36.160 To get

00:13:37.580 Donald Trump

00:13:38.520 As far away

00:13:39.460 From the White House

00:13:40.120 As possible

00:13:40.780 And it's time

00:13:42.120 For Joe

00:13:42.740 To leave

00:13:44.220 For exactly

00:13:45.240 The same reason

00:13:46.080 I mean

00:13:46.380 Nobody

00:13:47.100 No pollster

00:13:48.220 No hustler

00:13:49.660 No whistler

00:13:50.260 No juggler

00:13:50.980 No carny

00:13:51.980 Thinks

00:13:52.500 That Joe Biden

00:13:53.800 Is better equipped

00:13:54.540 Than several

00:13:55.420 Other Democrats

00:13:56.460 To make sure

00:13:57.640 That Donald Trump

00:13:59.800 Goes to prison

00:14:01.100 As opposed to

00:14:02.040 The Oval Office

00:14:02.700 Yeah

00:14:03.340 No I'm with you man

00:14:04.380 Like on

00:14:04.900 I mean as you know

00:14:06.140 We've talked about it

00:14:07.280 Many times over the years

00:14:08.220 I worked for the guy

00:14:09.180 As a volunteer

00:14:09.900 And

00:14:11.280 Like on Thursday

00:14:12.740 I was shocked

00:14:13.660 Friday

00:14:14.840 I was sad

00:14:16.020 And here

00:14:17.760 On Saturday

00:14:18.680 When we're recording this

00:14:19.760 I'm angry

00:14:20.360 And I'm angry

00:14:21.220 Not at him

00:14:23.580 I'm angry

00:14:24.820 At his family

00:14:25.620 And his

00:14:26.640 Closest friends

00:14:27.580 And senior

00:14:28.480 Democratic Party

00:14:29.300 Staff

00:14:29.800 Who I believe

00:14:30.880 Now

00:14:31.360 Concealed this

00:14:32.920 From us

00:14:33.620 His decline

00:14:34.280 Because there has been

00:14:35.160 As you have written

00:14:36.160 So eloquently

00:14:36.900 In the free press

00:14:37.900 There has been

00:14:38.460 A decline

00:14:39.040 And they hid it

00:14:40.560 From us

00:14:41.080 And it's mean

00:14:42.460 To him

00:14:42.860 It's cruel

00:14:43.300 To him

00:14:43.720 And it's bad

00:14:44.500 For democracy

00:14:45.300 There are

00:14:47.300 There are

00:14:47.760 Three people

00:14:48.440 Who I believe

00:14:49.960 Could intervene

00:14:50.800 Outside of his wife

00:14:51.780 Because I do believe

00:14:52.900 If Jill Biden

00:14:53.560 Said

00:14:54.020 Honey it's over

00:14:55.100 I think it'd be over

00:14:55.900 But outside of that

00:14:57.240 Three people

00:14:58.720 Who aren't

00:14:59.060 Family

00:14:59.600 Who I think

00:15:01.200 Could make him

00:15:01.980 Make the decision

00:15:03.000 Immediately

00:15:03.940 One is Barack Obama

00:15:05.920 The other is

00:15:07.340 Michelle Obama

00:15:08.160 And the third

00:15:09.560 Is Hillary Clinton

00:15:10.440 I believe

00:15:11.380 If Hillary

00:15:11.860 Michelle

00:15:12.420 And Barack

00:15:13.140 Say Joe

00:15:14.220 Thanks for

00:15:15.880 Everything man

00:15:17.060 Thanks for everything

00:15:18.580 And thank you

00:15:19.760 In advance

00:15:20.360 For doing the right thing

00:15:21.780 And allowing

00:15:22.700 Someone else

00:15:23.680 To finish the job

00:15:24.800 Totally agree

00:15:26.020 Totally agree

00:15:26.920 Like Jill Biden

00:15:27.900 I don't think

00:15:28.480 Jill Biden

00:15:29.140 Is a

00:15:30.020 Physician

00:15:31.480 I don't think

00:15:31.860 She's a medical doctor

00:15:33.100 Per se

00:15:33.640 Yeah

00:15:34.720 But she's like

00:15:35.500 You know

00:15:36.420 She loves him

00:15:37.040 Well I love him

00:15:38.240 And it's just like

00:15:39.420 Honey it's time

00:15:40.160 To go home

00:15:40.660 You know

00:15:41.220 And it's

00:15:42.420 It's good

00:15:43.300 It's best for you

00:15:44.700 And it's good

00:15:45.520 For the country

00:15:46.120 Because we can't

00:15:46.740 Let this son of a bitch

00:15:47.780 Win

00:15:48.020 But like

00:15:48.760 So let's talk about

00:15:49.640 How you engineer this

00:15:50.560 You've lived in the states

00:15:51.540 I've lived in the states

00:15:52.340 I've had a lot

00:15:53.660 Of upset readers

00:15:54.620 And I know you have

00:15:55.840 Who said

00:15:56.620 You know

00:15:56.820 He just quits

00:15:58.560 You know

00:15:59.080 And we'll put in

00:15:59.920 Somebody else

00:16:00.440 Gavin Newsom

00:16:01.180 But the 25th amendment

00:16:02.800 To the U.S. Constitution

00:16:04.360 Doesn't allow for that

00:16:05.100 Immediately becomes

00:16:05.980 The vice president

00:16:08.060 Vice president

00:16:08.600 Becomes president

00:16:09.320 So the only way

00:16:11.040 To really

00:16:11.580 And you know

00:16:12.620 She's unfortunately

00:16:13.640 Kamala is less

00:16:15.220 Popular than him

00:16:16.160 The only way to do this

00:16:17.660 We've got about

00:16:18.180 Five weeks

00:16:18.980 To engineer

00:16:19.740 A contested convention

00:16:21.860 Apparently

00:16:22.520 What do you think

00:16:23.620 What do you think

00:16:23.640 About that

00:16:24.040 Like how would

00:16:24.560 That work

00:16:25.020 It'd be exciting

00:16:25.680 TV

00:16:26.120 In Chicago

00:16:27.240 Would it work

00:16:28.360 I think so

00:16:30.180 For one reason

00:16:31.640 Here it is

00:16:32.880 They're called

00:16:33.560 The Democratic Party

00:16:34.660 What could possibly

00:16:36.280 Be more democratic

00:16:37.200 Than allowing

00:16:37.880 Any

00:16:38.820 Democrat

00:16:39.880 To enter

00:16:41.180 The contest

00:16:42.060 And actually

00:16:42.860 The Democrats

00:16:43.420 Are really lucky

00:16:45.060 Right now

00:16:45.480 Unlike the Republicans

00:16:46.680 Who basically

00:16:47.960 Have been

00:16:48.520 You know

00:16:49.380 Goofball anonymous

00:16:50.420 For the last number

00:16:51.280 Of years

00:16:51.660 Scaring away anyone

00:16:53.000 With an IQ

00:16:54.040 The Democrats

00:16:55.060 Have a lot of

00:16:56.120 Solid people

00:16:56.780 They've got

00:16:57.960 You mentioned

00:16:58.540 Newsom in California

00:16:59.520 They've got

00:16:59.860 Whitmer in Michigan

00:17:00.640 They've got

00:17:01.600 Shapiro in Pennsylvania

00:17:02.860 They've got some others

00:17:04.380 But I mean

00:17:04.980 Just off the

00:17:05.780 Top of my head

00:17:06.840 If I just think

00:17:08.020 About Shapiro

00:17:08.660 Newsom and Whitmer

00:17:09.840 Any of them

00:17:11.140 Can take Donald Trump

00:17:12.700 To the cleaners

00:17:13.380 And I'll remind you

00:17:14.440 That Shapiro is

00:17:15.260 Is Pennsylvania

00:17:16.280 Whitmer Michigan

00:17:17.080 I mean

00:17:17.580 If Biden can actually

00:17:19.420 Do a

00:17:20.300 Not Biden

00:17:21.820 If the Democrats

00:17:22.440 Can do a

00:17:23.380 Pennsylvania

00:17:24.240 Michigan ticket

00:17:25.280 If they can actually

00:17:26.180 Get those

00:17:26.900 Two states

00:17:27.980 Win those

00:17:28.560 In the electoral college

00:17:29.820 They can win this thing

00:17:31.220 Oh absolutely

00:17:32.100 That is the ticket

00:17:33.400 Because the concern now

00:17:35.100 You know

00:17:35.580 Those of us

00:17:36.460 Who have great affection

00:17:38.020 For Joe Biden

00:17:38.740 We're concerned

00:17:39.380 About him

00:17:40.040 We're concerned

00:17:40.500 About the presidency

00:17:41.380 And that

00:17:41.900 Son of a bitch

00:17:43.060 Becoming president

00:17:44.040 Because you know

00:17:44.560 If any

00:17:44.860 Everybody's been saying

00:17:46.300 To me

00:17:46.460 Oh you know

00:17:47.160 I was with the old guys

00:17:48.200 For coffee this morning

00:17:49.180 And they're like

00:17:49.580 Warren your guy

00:17:50.560 Is in decline

00:17:51.660 I say yeah

00:17:52.260 But what about

00:17:52.980 Donald Trump

00:17:53.700 He's in decline too

00:17:55.280 Like he was even

00:17:56.780 He was crazier

00:17:58.180 Than a shithouse rat

00:17:59.520 On Thursday night

00:18:00.720 But

00:18:01.440 Like I mean

00:18:03.220 To do that

00:18:03.860 He was

00:18:05.100 You know

00:18:05.660 But to do this

00:18:06.540 Engineered convention

00:18:07.720 This contested convention

00:18:08.920 Which the Democrats

00:18:09.700 Haven't had

00:18:10.400 Since the years

00:18:11.400 Of the Democratic Party

00:18:12.560 Bosses

00:18:13.320 Joe has to go

00:18:15.180 Along with it

00:18:15.780 Like

00:18:16.660 Yeah

00:18:16.980 He does

00:18:18.280 I didn't

00:18:18.800 I didn't sense

00:18:19.820 On Friday

00:18:20.400 When he was

00:18:20.980 In North Carolina

00:18:21.940 Any willingness

00:18:23.320 To go along

00:18:24.120 With it

00:18:24.500 Well yeah

00:18:25.160 But he hasn't

00:18:26.040 He hasn't had

00:18:26.860 What I would call

00:18:27.720 The intervention

00:18:28.380 Or the come

00:18:29.660 To Jesus moment

00:18:30.480 I really have

00:18:31.760 A hard time

00:18:32.320 Believing

00:18:32.700 That if Barack Obama

00:18:34.420 Michelle Obama

00:18:35.300 Hillary Clinton

00:18:36.400 If you want to

00:18:36.880 Throw in another one

00:18:37.700 Throw in

00:18:38.560 Throw in that guy

00:18:39.980 What was his

00:18:40.600 What was his name again

00:18:41.300 He was the president

00:18:41.840 Oh yeah Bill Clinton

00:18:42.900 Hillary's husband

00:18:43.680 Okay

00:18:44.000 I mean

00:18:44.580 You can't tell me

00:18:46.060 That if those

00:18:46.700 Three or four people

00:18:47.580 Get Joe Biden

00:18:48.380 In a room

00:18:48.860 They can't close

00:18:50.620 The sale

00:18:51.880 He knows

00:18:53.100 That none of them

00:18:54.020 None of them

00:18:55.040 Would be doing it

00:18:55.900 Out of malice

00:18:56.920 All of them

00:18:57.940 Would be doing it

00:18:58.620 Out of patriotism

00:18:59.900 Number one

00:19:00.480 Number two

00:19:01.720 The survival of democracy

00:19:03.060 And number three

00:19:03.760 Frankly

00:19:04.120 The survival

00:19:05.180 Of the Democratic Party

00:19:06.380 Whether you lived

00:19:07.340 In the states or not

00:19:08.180 You know the top

00:19:08.900 Of the ticket

00:19:09.320 Is everything

00:19:09.860 Sometimes people

00:19:10.860 Just pull a lever

00:19:11.600 When they go

00:19:12.060 Into the voting place

00:19:12.880 And they vote

00:19:14.380 For the top

00:19:14.880 Of the ticket

00:19:15.320 And they just

00:19:15.900 Pull that lever

00:19:16.520 Down

00:19:16.880 And everybody

00:19:18.080 Every Democrat

00:19:19.200 Whether it's

00:19:19.800 You know if you're

00:19:21.000 Pulling the top

00:19:22.040 Of the ticket

00:19:22.360 You're pulling it

00:19:22.880 For Democrat

00:19:23.400 Every Democrat

00:19:24.720 Running in a state

00:19:26.340 Running for attorney general

00:19:27.960 Running for dog catcher

00:19:29.080 It doesn't matter

00:19:29.680 All of them

00:19:30.640 Get your vote

00:19:31.320 And vice versa

00:19:32.240 If people want

00:19:33.580 To get rid of Joe Biden

00:19:34.640 And vote for Republican

00:19:35.540 A whole lot of Democrats

00:19:37.000 End up

00:19:37.580 End up suffering

00:19:38.720 So I think

00:19:39.900 That they could

00:19:40.440 Make the sale

00:19:41.180 And I

00:19:41.640 Just imagine

00:19:42.900 This if you will

00:19:43.660 We know that

00:19:44.620 Politics is television

00:19:46.200 Television is politics

00:19:47.760 What would the ratings

00:19:49.100 Be for a Democratic

00:19:50.840 Convention

00:19:51.180 In Chicago

00:19:52.280 That is picking

00:19:53.380 The next president

00:19:54.260 Of the United States

00:19:55.140 Well it would just

00:19:56.060 Be out of the ballpark

00:19:57.120 Of me rolling

00:19:57.720 Through the parking lot

00:19:58.740 The problem is

00:19:59.920 I don't know

00:20:00.200 If you saw it

00:20:01.160 As I was heading

00:20:02.640 Back to the county

00:20:03.600 Dejected and depressed

00:20:05.700 Barack Obama tweet

00:20:08.800 Flashed up on my screen

00:20:10.300 And a few hours later

00:20:11.860 Bill Clinton won

00:20:12.640 And Obama said

00:20:13.760 You know I

00:20:14.260 I know what it's like

00:20:15.200 To lose a debate

00:20:15.980 So he acknowledged

00:20:17.040 He lost the debate

00:20:17.940 But you know

00:20:18.580 You can come back for it

00:20:19.480 And it's true

00:20:20.140 You know at that

00:20:20.940 First Romney

00:20:21.880 Obama debate

00:20:23.360 In 2012

00:20:25.240 Obama got his ass kicked

00:20:27.120 Because he came out

00:20:27.840 And recited statistics

00:20:29.080 And factoids

00:20:30.060 But

00:20:30.640 That's right

00:20:31.500 But the problem here

00:20:32.500 Is not that

00:20:33.340 Like it's

00:20:33.980 You know I

00:20:34.660 I had a respected

00:20:36.380 Documentary producer

00:20:37.820 Come see me last week

00:20:39.080 And I haven't told you

00:20:39.760 About this yet

00:20:40.380 And you know

00:20:41.740 He saw the Biden

00:20:42.640 Poster on my wall

00:20:44.300 And he said

00:20:45.580 You know

00:20:45.940 My doc

00:20:47.060 My wife is a doc

00:20:48.460 And she thinks

00:20:50.160 That he's got Parkinson's

00:20:51.560 And I'm like

00:20:52.400 Oh no no no

00:20:53.200 You know

00:20:53.520 This is before the debate

00:20:54.400 No no way

00:20:55.220 And then

00:20:56.220 You know

00:20:56.720 I started googling

00:20:58.080 Symptoms of Parkinson's

00:21:00.120 Which I don't know

00:21:00.740 A lot about

00:21:01.380 And I was like

00:21:02.500 Wow

00:21:03.440 That's what I saw

00:21:05.880 On Thursday night

00:21:06.720 Like whatever it is

00:21:07.740 It looks

00:21:09.020 He

00:21:09.500 He's just

00:21:10.260 I encourage everybody

00:21:11.540 To take a look

00:21:12.280 At the video

00:21:12.900 You know

00:21:13.920 From four years ago

00:21:15.240 Of Joe

00:21:15.920 And the

00:21:16.720 The video

00:21:17.560 Of Joe

00:21:18.500 On Thursday night

00:21:19.460 It's like a different person

00:21:21.240 Well he's got

00:21:23.060 He's got this

00:21:23.780 And you know

00:21:24.620 When they split the screen

00:21:25.600 The so-called debate

00:21:26.940 Trump and Biden

00:21:28.040 You know

00:21:28.520 You see

00:21:28.920 Trump reacting

00:21:30.080 To media questions

00:21:31.020 Trump

00:21:31.320 Rather

00:21:31.960 Biden reacting

00:21:32.620 To media questions

00:21:33.320 Biden reacting

00:21:34.100 To Trump

00:21:34.380 So when you have

00:21:35.440 That split screen

00:21:36.180 And you see

00:21:36.940 Trump

00:21:37.400 Whatever you may think

00:21:38.160 Of him

00:21:38.360 Looking rather

00:21:38.920 Vital and animated

00:21:40.560 And strong

00:21:41.180 And all of that

00:21:41.880 And then you see

00:21:42.960 Biden with this

00:21:44.040 This death stare

00:21:45.300 This

00:21:45.600 This frozen face

00:21:47.180 This face

00:21:48.340 That appears

00:21:49.060 To be

00:21:50.060 I hate to put it this way

00:21:51.240 And I'm not a doctor

00:21:52.180 But a face

00:21:53.220 That appears to be

00:21:54.540 Neurologically impaired

00:21:55.840 I don't know

00:21:56.920 That it's Parkinson's

00:21:58.040 I'm not smart enough

00:21:58.760 To figure that out

00:21:59.460 But I do know

00:22:00.600 That it's

00:22:01.380 About neurology

00:22:02.860 And when you've got

00:22:04.120 A neurological issue

00:22:05.420 You've got a

00:22:07.120 It's time to go

00:22:08.620 Issue

00:22:09.260 I don't care

00:22:10.300 Whether you're being

00:22:10.900 Hired for president

00:22:11.860 Or for a dog catcher

00:22:13.480 Or for a talk show host

00:22:14.800 Or whatever

00:22:15.360 His best days

00:22:16.660 Are behind him

00:22:17.460 And the party

00:22:18.580 And the country

00:22:19.360 Deserves

00:22:19.960 The best Joe Biden

00:22:21.620 Not the worst

00:22:22.740 Absolutely

00:22:23.460 And it wasn't

00:22:24.340 Just his face

00:22:24.960 It wasn't just

00:22:25.520 The image

00:22:25.960 And TV is pictures

00:22:27.060 As we both know

00:22:28.020 But it's also

00:22:29.020 What you're using

00:22:30.000 Like I encourage

00:22:30.700 Everybody

00:22:31.140 Listen to Charles Adler's

00:22:32.940 Voice right now

00:22:34.200 Right

00:22:34.420 He's got this

00:22:35.100 Rich

00:22:35.860 Deep tone

00:22:36.800 It's

00:22:37.560 You know

00:22:37.880 It's got inflection

00:22:38.800 In it

00:22:39.280 It's got

00:22:40.080 Authority

00:22:40.840 And that's

00:22:42.140 What Joe

00:22:42.460 Had four years

00:22:43.240 Ago

00:22:43.520 On Thursday

00:22:44.620 Night

00:22:45.040 Like I was

00:22:46.180 Listening to

00:22:46.800 His voice

00:22:47.440 And it was

00:22:48.320 I thought

00:22:48.940 Somebody had

00:22:49.400 Actually turned

00:22:50.040 Down his

00:22:50.520 Microphone

00:22:51.180 You know

00:22:51.880 Some Republican

00:22:52.780 In the back

00:22:53.440 Room

00:22:53.780 Turned down

00:22:54.540 Like it was

00:22:55.220 Horse

00:22:55.860 And raspy

00:22:57.740 And raspy

00:22:57.760 And faint

00:22:58.660 And it's

00:23:00.040 Just

00:23:00.260 You know

00:23:00.720 It's not

00:23:01.100 Like the voice

00:23:01.860 That Adler's

00:23:02.600 Got right now

00:23:03.440 All right

00:23:04.280 So we've

00:23:04.860 Talked about that

00:23:06.120 The other thing

00:23:06.920 It was a

00:23:07.380 Bad week

00:23:07.980 For another

00:23:08.420 Guy

00:23:08.740 I think

00:23:10.140 I think

00:23:10.200 I was shocked

00:23:12.400 Also

00:23:13.240 By the result

00:23:14.640 In St.

00:23:15.280 Paul's

00:23:15.840 In Toronto

00:23:16.500 This midtown

00:23:17.220 Riding

00:23:17.640 That's been

00:23:18.060 Liberal

00:23:18.340 It has been

00:23:19.260 Liberal

00:23:19.600 Forever

00:23:20.040 Everybody needs

00:23:20.880 To remember

00:23:21.660 That

00:23:22.020 It's not

00:23:22.440 Like Mount

00:23:22.900 Royal

00:23:23.220 In Montreal

00:23:24.220 But it's

00:23:25.620 Been a

00:23:26.180 Bellwether

00:23:27.040 Riding

00:23:27.720 It's been

00:23:28.000 Pretty safe

00:23:28.680 For a long

00:23:29.140 Time

00:23:29.460 Since

00:23:29.720 Barbara

00:23:30.040 I think

00:23:30.300 Barbara

00:23:30.600 McDougal

00:23:31.100 Was the

00:23:31.420 Last Tory

00:23:31.920 To win

00:23:32.280 It

00:23:32.580 Barbara

00:23:33.480 McDougal

00:23:33.900 Was a

00:23:35.520 Tory

00:23:35.780 Let's just

00:23:36.160 Be clear

00:23:36.520 She was

00:23:36.800 A progressive

00:23:37.720 Conservative

00:23:38.220 Yeah

00:23:38.540 She wasn't

00:23:39.000 One of

00:23:39.300 Today's

00:23:39.640 Tories

00:23:39.980 No

00:23:40.580 So it

00:23:41.240 You know

00:23:42.020 The Liberals

00:23:43.280 Lost

00:23:43.600 Leslie Church

00:23:44.280 Candidate

00:23:44.880 Lost

00:23:45.280 You can

00:23:46.040 You know

00:23:46.640 And it's all

00:23:47.160 Things in

00:23:47.600 Politics

00:23:47.940 There's all

00:23:48.300 Kinds of

00:23:48.540 Reason for

00:23:49.040 It

00:23:49.140 Leslie Church

00:23:49.820 Maybe she

00:23:50.380 Was a

00:23:50.640 Dud of a

00:23:51.060 candidate

00:23:51.460 The Jewish

00:23:52.460 Vote came

00:23:53.060 Together

00:23:53.420 Because they

00:23:53.960 Were angry

00:23:54.400 At Trudeau

00:23:55.160 But the

00:23:56.760 Turnout

00:23:57.300 Like it

00:23:58.860 Was close

00:23:59.540 To 50%

00:24:00.380 And you

00:24:01.640 Know by

00:24:01.940 Elections

00:24:02.360 You know

00:24:02.760 These days

00:24:03.280 Are like

00:24:04.080 Pretty crummy

00:24:04.820 Like half

00:24:05.680 That sometimes

00:24:06.560 What do you

00:24:07.420 Think happened

00:24:07.980 In St.

00:24:08.520 Paul's

00:24:08.940 Well I don't

00:24:09.680 Think this

00:24:10.020 Was a

00:24:10.280 By election

00:24:10.720 I think

00:24:11.100 This was

00:24:11.640 A referendum

00:24:12.940 And it was

00:24:13.400 A referendum

00:24:13.820 On the

00:24:14.160 Government

00:24:14.440 And there

00:24:15.960 Are a couple

00:24:16.300 Of issues

00:24:16.820 Which aren't

00:24:17.540 Going to

00:24:17.760 Play well

00:24:18.200 In Forest

00:24:18.720 Hill

00:24:19.000 All of

00:24:20.000 Forest

00:24:20.280 Hill

00:24:20.440 Is in

00:24:20.700 That

00:24:20.980 In that

00:24:21.920 Particular

00:24:22.600 Riding

00:24:22.940 I've

00:24:23.220 I've

00:24:23.620 Lived

00:24:23.740 There

00:24:23.920 I've

00:24:24.080 Worked

00:24:24.260 There

00:24:24.440 Because when

00:24:24.800 I worked

00:24:25.040 At the

00:24:25.280 Legendary

00:24:25.780 Station

00:24:26.400 At Young

00:24:26.740 In St.

00:24:27.100 Clair

00:24:27.300 That's

00:24:27.660 That's

00:24:27.940 Where it

00:24:28.240 Was

00:24:28.460 So I

00:24:29.300 Know every

00:24:29.980 Inch

00:24:30.280 Of that

00:24:30.840 Riding

00:24:31.220 Like the

00:24:31.700 Back of

00:24:32.420 My hand

00:24:32.780 And there

00:24:33.000 Are two

00:24:33.220 Issues

00:24:33.520 That aren't

00:24:33.840 Going to

00:24:34.020 Play well

00:24:34.420 There

00:24:34.660 It's

00:24:35.520 The

00:24:36.340 Liberal

00:24:37.240 Handling

00:24:37.740 Of

00:24:38.000 Not

00:24:38.500 Israel

00:24:39.080 Not

00:24:39.580 Gaza

00:24:40.120 Not

00:24:40.400 October

00:24:40.800 7th

00:24:41.680 But the

00:24:42.140 Liberal

00:24:42.480 Handling

00:24:43.120 Or

00:24:43.400 Mishandling

00:24:44.360 Or

00:24:45.080 Confused

00:24:45.760 Handling

00:24:46.280 Of

00:24:46.900 Anti

00:24:47.560 Semitism

00:24:48.880 Okay

00:24:49.280 So about

00:24:50.960 15-16%

00:24:52.040 Of the

00:24:52.280 Riding

00:24:52.540 Is

00:24:52.780 Jewish

00:24:53.140 And I

00:24:54.060 Think if

00:24:54.320 You parse

00:24:54.680 That even

00:24:55.060 Further

00:24:55.360 In terms

00:24:55.820 Of what

00:24:56.960 Percentage

00:24:57.520 Of people

00:24:57.920 Turn out

00:24:58.420 My

00:24:58.840 Educated

00:25:01.600 Hunch is

00:25:02.080 That a lot

00:25:02.740 More than

00:25:03.060 15%

00:25:03.740 Of the

00:25:04.000 Turnout

00:25:04.360 Happened to

00:25:04.920 Be

00:25:05.100 The

00:25:05.920 Jewish

00:25:06.200 Vote

00:25:06.460 So

00:25:06.660 Not

00:25:07.520 Being

00:25:08.260 Not

00:25:09.400 Having

00:25:09.740 What I

00:25:10.520 Would

00:25:10.640 Call

00:25:10.960 Great

00:25:11.780 Communications

00:25:12.400 On

00:25:12.700 Anti

00:25:13.020 Semitism

00:25:13.740 And

00:25:14.620 Add to

00:25:15.620 That

00:25:15.840 The

00:25:16.020 Capital

00:25:16.440 Gains

00:25:17.100 Tax

00:25:17.800 And I

00:25:20.980 Think

00:25:21.180 Those

00:25:21.460 Are

00:25:21.660 Two

00:25:22.020 Issues

00:25:22.340 I

00:25:22.500 Don't

00:25:23.080 Care

00:25:23.280 Who

00:25:23.440 You

00:25:23.600 Are

00:25:23.880 Whether

00:25:24.580 You're

00:25:24.920 That

00:25:25.800 Particular

00:25:26.140 Candidate

00:25:26.680 Or

00:25:26.820 The

00:25:26.960 Prime

00:25:27.160 Minister

00:25:27.440 Or

00:25:27.720 Anybody

00:25:28.040 Else

00:25:28.440 If

00:25:29.520 You're

00:25:29.760 Asking

00:25:30.240 Me

00:25:30.620 To

00:25:31.520 Be

00:25:31.740 Your

00:25:32.020 Advisor

00:25:32.480 On

00:25:33.360 Which

00:25:33.640 Issues

00:25:34.080 Not

00:25:34.520 To

00:25:34.720 Have

00:25:35.080 On

00:25:35.320 Your

00:25:35.500 Plate

00:25:35.840 Going

00:25:36.440 Into

00:25:36.680 By

00:25:37.040 Election

00:25:37.360 In

00:25:37.540 Toronto

00:25:37.740 St.

00:25:38.080 Paul's

00:25:38.400 It

00:25:38.720 Would

00:25:38.840 Be

00:25:39.060 Anti

00:25:39.960 Semitism

00:25:40.680 And

00:25:41.520 Capital

00:25:41.800 Gains

00:25:42.160 100%

00:25:43.540 I

00:25:43.740 Think

00:25:43.920 You're

00:25:44.080 Bang

00:25:44.420 On

00:25:44.740 Like

00:25:45.400 There

00:25:45.540 Were

00:25:45.680 Some

00:25:45.900 Real

00:25:46.120 Issues

00:25:46.580 In

00:25:46.820 Play

00:25:47.180 There

00:25:47.520 You

00:25:49.160 Know

00:25:49.300 And

00:25:50.800 Of

00:25:50.940 Course

00:25:51.100 All

00:25:51.260 The

00:25:51.360 Trudeau

00:25:51.700 Haters

00:25:52.080 Came

00:25:52.380 Out

00:25:52.700 And

00:25:53.000 You

00:25:53.560 Know

00:25:53.640 They

00:25:53.780 Were

00:25:53.900 Saying

00:25:54.120 To

00:25:54.220 Me

00:25:54.400 See

00:25:55.520 Warren

00:25:55.980 You

00:25:56.780 Know

00:25:56.980 Everybody

00:25:57.460 Hates

00:25:57.920 Him

00:25:58.120 And

00:25:58.600 I

00:25:58.720 Still

00:25:58.980 Have

00:25:59.120 The

00:25:59.280 Same

00:25:59.520 View

00:25:59.860 And

00:26:00.540 You

00:26:01.260 Know

00:26:05.080 That

00:26:05.280 I

00:26:05.560 Think

00:26:05.740 It's

00:26:05.940 Just

00:26:06.160 People

00:26:06.740 In

00:26:07.140 Politics

00:26:07.620 You

00:26:07.960 Get

00:26:08.120 A

00:26:08.300 You

00:26:08.580 Know

00:26:08.920 You're

00:26:09.100 Like

00:26:09.280 A

00:26:09.500 Jug

00:26:09.760 Of

00:26:09.880 Milk

00:26:10.100 You

00:26:10.280 Got

00:26:10.420 A

00:26:10.560 Shelf

00:26:10.840 Life

00:26:11.120 You

00:26:11.260 Got

00:26:11.380 A

00:26:11.480 Best

00:26:11.680 Before

00:26:12.060 Date

00:26:12.420 And

00:26:13.480 So

00:26:14.060 I

00:26:14.160 Think

00:26:14.280 He's

00:26:14.460 Reached

00:26:14.720 That

00:26:15.060 As

00:26:15.980 You

00:26:16.080 Say

00:26:16.280 It

00:26:16.420 Was

00:26:16.600 A

00:26:16.740 Referendum

00:26:17.100 On

00:26:17.240 The

00:26:17.360 Government

00:26:17.620 But

00:26:18.360 You

00:26:18.640 Know

00:26:18.760 But

00:26:18.940 The

00:26:19.080 Other

00:26:19.260 Thing

00:26:19.580 Is

00:26:19.940 I

00:26:21.200 Think

00:26:21.720 That

00:26:22.040 People

00:26:23.320 Are

00:26:23.560 Also

00:26:23.840 Being

00:26:24.100 Unfair

00:26:24.520 To

00:26:24.720 Trudeau

00:26:25.160 In

00:26:25.420 This

00:26:25.680 Way

00:26:25.980 He's

00:26:26.800 Not

00:26:26.980 Stupid

00:26:27.440 Like

00:26:28.200 You

00:26:28.300 Don't

00:26:28.460 Get

00:26:28.640 To

00:26:28.780 Be

00:26:28.920 Prime

00:26:29.280 Minister

00:26:29.640 By

00:26:29.940 Being

00:26:30.240 An

00:26:30.460 Idiot

00:26:31.100 Right

00:26:31.740 But

00:26:32.500 He

00:26:33.440 Can

00:26:33.660 Read

00:26:33.880 A

00:26:34.040 Poll

00:26:34.260 Like

00:26:34.520 The

00:26:34.660 Next

00:26:34.940 Guy

00:26:35.340 He

00:26:35.980 Knows

00:26:36.320 If

00:26:36.520 He's

00:26:36.680 Been

00:26:36.820 15

00:26:37.200 To

00:26:37.340 20

00:26:37.560 Points

00:26:37.920 Behind

00:26:38.280 For

00:26:38.480 More

00:26:38.680 Than

00:26:38.840 A

00:26:38.980 Year

00:26:39.200 That's

00:26:39.960 It's

00:26:40.180 Kind

00:26:40.360 Of

00:26:40.440 All

00:26:40.620 She

00:26:40.840 Wrote

00:26:41.260 What

00:26:41.900 Do

00:26:42.000 You

00:26:42.080 Think

00:26:42.300 Do

00:26:42.440 You

00:26:42.560 Think

00:26:42.780 He

00:26:43.060 I

00:26:43.400 Think

00:26:43.620 He

00:26:43.720 Got

00:26:43.880 A

00:26:44.020 Lift

00:26:44.240 From

00:26:44.440 The

00:26:44.600 Debate

00:26:44.920 On

00:26:45.060 Thursday

00:26:45.320 Night

00:26:45.580 I

00:26:45.920 Don't

00:26:46.060 Think

00:26:46.220 People

00:26:46.520 Want

00:26:56.980 To

00:26:57.120 Say

00:26:57.280 This

00:26:57.480 Warren

00:26:57.780 You

00:26:58.080 Included

00:26:58.560 Have

00:26:58.760 Been

00:26:58.880 Talking

00:26:59.160 About

00:26:59.440 Trudeau

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00:32:08.540 Hear

00:32:08.760 Your

00:32:08.940 Wisdom

00:32:09.360 And

00:32:10.040 What

00:32:10.280 Do

00:32:10.360 You

00:32:10.400 Say

00:32:10.540 I

00:32:11.080 Think

00:32:11.220 We

00:32:11.320 Should

00:32:11.420 Do

00:32:11.520 This

00:32:11.700 Next

00:32:11.920 Week

00:32:12.140 Well

00:32:13.200 I

00:32:13.560 Tell

00:32:13.760 You

00:32:13.860 I

00:32:13.980 Love

00:32:14.160 Canada

00:32:14.540 And

00:32:14.720 I

00:32:14.820 Love

00:32:14.940 The

00:32:15.080 Fact

00:32:15.320 That

00:32:15.440 We're

00:32:15.560 Reuniting

00:32:16.080 On

00:32:16.240 Canada

00:32:16.540 Weekend

00:32:17.060 Canada

00:32:17.700 Day

00:32:17.940 Weekend

00:32:18.320 You

00:32:18.420 Have

00:32:18.520 A

00:32:18.680 Great

00:32:18.960 Canada

00:32:19.260 Day

00:32:19.600 And

00:32:20.120 I'd

00:32:20.340 Love

00:32:20.500 To

00:32:20.640 Do

00:32:20.780 This

00:32:21.000 With

00:32:21.180 You

00:32:21.260 Next

00:32:21.540 Week

00:32:21.820 And

00:32:22.260 The

00:32:22.360 Week

00:32:22.520 After

00:32:22.860 And

00:32:23.040 The

00:32:23.120 Week

00:32:23.260 After

00:32:23.500 That

00:32:23.760 You

00:32:24.400 Got

00:32:24.640 It

00:32:24.800 Thank

00:32:25.800 You

00:32:25.920 My

00:32:26.060 Friend

00:32:26.320 I've

00:32:26.700 Been

00:32:26.840 Talking

00:32:27.200 So

00:32:27.640 Much

00:32:28.740 Shit

00:32:29.540 On

00:32:30.440 Myself

00:32:30.940 In

00:32:31.200 My

00:32:31.500 Own

00:32:32.560 Head

00:32:33.400 I

00:32:33.900 Know

00:32:34.240 It

00:32:34.460 Does

00:32:34.820 No

00:32:35.220 Good

00:32:35.820 But

00:32:36.560 I

00:32:36.980 Still

00:32:38.100 Do

00:32:38.820 And

00:32:41.980 If

00:32:42.260 I

00:32:42.500 Get

00:32:42.780 One

00:32:43.800 Chance

00:32:44.820 To

00:32:45.260 In

00:32:45.560 My

00:32:45.760 For

00:32:46.280 Real

00:32:46.560 I

00:32:46.980 Won't

00:32:47.640 Wince

00:32:48.580 Cause

00:32:48.980 Maybe

00:32:49.360 If

00:32:49.780 I

00:32:49.960 Died

00:32:50.400 Right

00:32:50.820 Now

00:32:51.360 I

00:32:51.640 Would

00:32:51.940 Be

00:32:52.400 A

00:32:52.880 Great

00:32:53.420 Man

00:32:54.080 I've

00:32:56.380 Been

00:32:56.520 Thinking

00:32:56.960 A

00:32:57.360 Lot

00:32:57.680 I've

00:33:00.260 Been

00:33:00.400 Thinking

00:33:00.760 A

00:33:01.140 Lot

00:33:01.540 I've

00:33:04.020 Been

00:33:04.160 Thinking

00:33:04.520 A

00:33:04.940 Lot

00:33:05.360 I've

00:33:07.800 Been

00:33:07.940 Thinking

00:33:08.340 A

00:33:08.720 Lot

00:33:09.240 I've

00:33:11.560 Been

00:33:11.720 Thinking

00:33:12.140 A

00:33:12.500 Lie

00:33:13.420 About

00:33:15.100 How

00:33:15.360 My

00:33:15.760 Friends

00:33:16.120 Are

00:33:16.300 Kind

00:33:17.320 And

00:33:19.120 It's

00:33:19.360 Not

00:33:19.700 That

00:33:20.160 I'm

00:33:21.200 Never

00:33:21.580 Around

00:33:22.280 Cause

00:33:22.860 I'm

00:33:23.060 Things

00:33:23.400 In

00:33:23.600 A

00:33:23.840 Wine

00:33:24.660 I'm

00:33:26.880 All

00:33:27.140 Out

00:33:27.400 Of

00:33:27.560 Time

00:33:28.360 Right

00:33:30.160 Now

00:33:30.500 I'm

00:33:30.700 All

00:33:30.940 Out

00:33:31.240 Time

00:33:32.220 You

00:33:34.380 Think

00:33:34.800 From

00:33:35.140 The

00:33:35.360 Past

00:33:35.840 That

00:33:36.140 I've

00:33:36.380 Learned

00:33:36.880 Your

00:33:37.240 Life

00:33:37.680 But

00:33:38.000 I'm

00:33:38.160 So

00:33:38.540 Damn

00:33:38.960 Wise

00:33:39.720 And

00:33:42.660 The

00:33:42.880 Way

00:33:43.300 That

00:33:43.680 I

00:33:43.880 Work

00:33:44.140 Is

00:33:44.320 Just

00:33:44.580 Like

00:33:44.840 Everyone

00:33:45.380 Else

00:33:45.840 But

00:33:46.200 I

00:33:46.400 Don't

00:33:46.640 Want

00:33:47.020 To

00:33:47.300 Think

00:33:47.400 That

00:33:47.760 So

00:33:48.100 I

00:33:48.300 Destroy

00:33:48.780 My

00:33:49.200 Health

00:33:49.560 I

00:33:50.060 Am

00:33:50.260 Invincible

00:33:51.000 I

00:33:51.860 Am

00:33:52.160 Invincible

00:33:52.960 I'm

00:33:56.920 Sad

00:33:57.460 I'm

00:33:58.920 Sad

00:34:01.240 Little

00:34:01.620 Man

00:34:02.120 I'm

00:34:04.420 Sad

00:34:05.040 Little

00:34:05.240 Man

00:34:05.880 I'm

00:34:08.160 Sad

00:34:08.700 Fucking

00:34:09.080 Man

00:34:10.160 I

00:34:11.680 Should

00:34:11.980 Just

00:34:12.200 Split

00:34:12.540 My

00:34:12.880 Man

00:34:13.940 So

00:34:16.420 I

00:34:16.740 Can

00:34:16.900 Die

00:34:17.280 Alone

00:34:17.660 With

00:34:17.880 Think

00:34:18.220 I

00:34:18.540 Love

00:34:18.980 I

00:34:19.520 Can

00:34:19.740 Turn

00:34:20.120 My

00:34:20.460 Am

00:34:21.240 That

00:34:23.020 Why

00:34:23.360 I

00:34:23.540 Play

00:34:23.860 This

00:34:24.320 On

00:34:25.100 In

00:34:26.860 Hope

00:34:27.100 Someone

00:34:27.600 Think

00:34:27.860 Alone

00:34:28.860 So

00:34:31.520 You

00:34:31.780 Can

00:34:31.960 Share

00:34:32.460 My

00:34:32.900 Pain

00:34:33.460 Less

00:34:33.760 Connect

00:34:34.360 Your

00:34:34.820 Grains

00:34:35.620 And

00:34:36.320 Picture

00:34:36.660 Broken

00:34:37.260 Hands

00:34:38.240 Left

00:34:39.120 Me

00:34:39.340 Broken

00:34:39.840 I'm

00:34:57.120 Just

00:34:57.360 A

00:34:57.620 Sad

00:34:57.960 Little

00:34:58.200 Man

00:34:58.800 I'm

00:35:00.880 Just

00:35:01.140 A

00:35:01.380 Sad

00:35:01.720 Little

00:35:01.980 Man

00:35:02.600 I'm

00:35:04.680 Just

00:35:04.920 A

00:35:05.180 Sad

00:35:05.520 Little

00:35:05.680 Man

00:35:06.440 We're

00:35:09.620 back

00:35:10.080 and

00:35:10.780 Brian

00:35:11.520 Lillie

00:35:12.800 I want

00:35:13.820 you to

00:35:14.020 be my

00:35:14.340 psychiatrist

00:35:14.860 because I'm

00:35:15.600 in a state

00:35:16.100 of depression

00:35:16.760 not over

00:35:18.640 the St.

00:35:19.420 Paul's

00:35:19.740 by-election

00:35:20.280 because I was

00:35:20.820 happy to see

00:35:21.380 Trudeau lose

00:35:22.040 but my

00:35:23.300 guy Joe

00:35:23.940 Biden

00:35:24.300 who as

00:35:24.860 you know

00:35:25.140 I've

00:35:25.420 worked for

00:35:26.120 and I have

00:35:26.380 great affection

00:35:26.940 for

00:35:27.300 it was a

00:35:28.800 disaster

00:35:29.280 on Thursday

00:35:29.720 night

00:35:30.000 and I

00:35:30.420 don't give

00:35:30.740 a damn

00:35:31.100 what

00:35:31.360 Democratic

00:35:32.200 spinners

00:35:32.720 are saying

00:35:33.220 it was a

00:35:33.660 total

00:35:33.900 disaster

00:35:34.500 so

00:35:35.440 what

00:35:36.260 how do

00:35:37.020 I feel

00:35:37.420 better

00:35:37.760 is there

00:35:38.140 any way

00:35:38.500 for me

00:35:38.800 to feel

00:35:39.100 better

00:35:39.440 as a

00:35:40.000 guy

00:35:40.420 who likes

00:35:40.780 the

00:35:40.960 Democrats

00:35:41.460 just pray

00:35:43.620 that they

00:35:44.000 do the

00:35:44.300 right thing

00:35:44.680 and that

00:35:44.960 Biden

00:35:45.240 steps

00:35:45.600 down

00:35:45.960 because

00:35:46.440 if

00:35:46.900 if

00:35:47.580 Biden

00:35:49.280 and Trump

00:35:49.980 are the

00:35:50.380 ticket

00:35:50.720 and that's

00:35:51.540 the binary

00:35:51.940 choice

00:35:52.340 that Americans

00:35:52.840 have to

00:35:53.220 make

00:35:53.460 come

00:35:53.920 November

00:35:55.000 barring

00:35:56.380 some

00:35:56.680 unforeseen

00:35:57.280 circumstance

00:35:57.780 that we

00:35:58.440 have no

00:35:58.980 clue about

00:35:59.440 right now

00:35:59.940 Trump

00:36:01.380 will win

00:36:01.780 in a

00:36:02.000 landslide

00:36:02.560 because

00:36:03.140 you know

00:36:04.240 I know

00:36:05.200 Democrats

00:36:05.760 keep saying

00:36:06.480 oh but

00:36:06.760 he lied

00:36:07.280 all night

00:36:07.720 okay well

00:36:09.040 look all

00:36:09.900 politicians

00:36:10.400 lie to

00:36:10.840 some degree

00:36:11.280 in events

00:36:11.940 like that

00:36:12.340 and they

00:36:12.560 stretch the

00:36:13.000 truth

00:36:13.240 but Trump

00:36:14.040 could have

00:36:14.560 lied with

00:36:15.020 everything

00:36:15.400 single thing

00:36:16.180 he said

00:36:16.660 and his

00:36:17.620 voters are

00:36:18.140 still going

00:36:18.480 to back

00:36:18.860 him

00:36:19.060 we know

00:36:20.600 that

00:36:20.880 but

00:36:21.580 will

00:36:22.760 Americans

00:36:23.280 the swing

00:36:23.840 voters

00:36:24.160 that decide

00:36:24.680 these

00:36:24.940 elections

00:36:25.380 what are

00:36:26.160 they going

00:36:26.380 to do

00:36:26.620 when they

00:36:26.920 look and

00:36:27.180 they say

00:36:27.360 well that

00:36:27.620 guy's

00:36:27.980 he's a

00:36:28.420 little

00:36:28.500 crazy

00:36:28.960 but this

00:36:30.580 guy's not

00:36:31.100 there anymore

00:36:31.900 yeah

00:36:32.760 I was worried

00:36:33.920 about Biden's

00:36:34.900 mental acuity

00:36:36.280 cognitive abilities

00:36:37.380 whatever euphemism

00:36:38.480 you want to

00:36:38.960 use

00:36:39.340 a while back

00:36:40.840 and that's I

00:36:41.340 think I told you

00:36:42.000 last summer

00:36:42.780 you've been

00:36:44.480 saying it for a

00:36:45.100 long time

00:36:45.520 like get

00:36:46.740 get him out

00:36:47.360 of there

00:36:47.680 he's not

00:36:48.660 looking great

00:36:49.360 uh

00:36:50.060 putting Gavin

00:36:50.760 Newsom

00:36:51.160 but

00:36:52.260 you know

00:36:53.300 you know

00:36:54.180 I've seen

00:36:54.560 people saying

00:36:55.080 oh we've

00:36:55.580 known how bad

00:36:56.320 he was

00:36:56.760 since 2020

00:36:57.800 and everyone's

00:36:58.880 known this

00:36:59.360 and the media

00:36:59.760 is hidden

00:37:00.060 I actually

00:37:00.820 think he has

00:37:01.360 deteriorated

00:37:02.040 greatly

00:37:02.540 in the last

00:37:03.280 six months

00:37:03.860 and

00:37:04.920 and so

00:37:05.860 just

00:37:06.180 put politics

00:37:07.560 aside for a

00:37:08.320 minute

00:37:08.480 is this

00:37:09.880 humane

00:37:10.840 a humane

00:37:11.700 and charitable

00:37:12.360 and compassionate

00:37:13.200 way to treat

00:37:13.840 this man

00:37:14.300 and my answer

00:37:15.620 is is no

00:37:16.580 and and so

00:37:18.280 why is he still

00:37:19.500 being run

00:37:20.060 as the candidate

00:37:21.000 um

00:37:22.020 you know

00:37:22.780 you put him

00:37:23.740 uh give him

00:37:24.720 a shot of

00:37:25.200 something the

00:37:25.700 next day

00:37:26.140 apparently

00:37:26.600 give him a

00:37:27.380 teleprompter

00:37:28.020 and put him

00:37:28.420 out for 15

00:37:29.140 minutes and

00:37:29.700 it sounds

00:37:29.980 great

00:37:30.340 but being

00:37:32.000 president is

00:37:32.760 not just

00:37:33.380 doing those

00:37:34.180 things

00:37:34.540 you've got

00:37:35.360 to have

00:37:35.620 the stamina

00:37:36.220 chloe and

00:37:38.160 joey could

00:37:39.200 do well with

00:37:39.860 a teleprompter

00:37:40.780 and make

00:37:41.760 like it was

00:37:43.100 just I

00:37:44.100 the the thing

00:37:44.980 that I've been

00:37:45.480 experiencing you

00:37:46.520 know I sit

00:37:46.820 on cfra this

00:37:47.680 morning it's like

00:37:48.320 I was shocked

00:37:49.100 thursday night

00:37:50.160 I was shocked

00:37:51.000 because you were

00:37:52.180 so right

00:37:52.960 uh and I

00:37:54.120 you weren't

00:37:54.480 being mean

00:37:55.000 you know there's

00:37:55.460 a lot of

00:37:55.880 republicans and

00:37:56.780 conservatives

00:37:57.240 following me

00:37:57.820 and they're

00:37:58.020 being mean

00:37:58.540 and I don't

00:37:58.880 think it's

00:37:59.240 nice I

00:38:00.020 wasn't brought

00:38:00.540 up to make

00:38:00.980 fun of people

00:38:01.580 who are

00:38:01.960 got you know

00:38:03.420 sickness

00:38:04.060 you're not

00:38:04.740 supposed to do

00:38:05.240 that

00:38:05.360 onset or not

00:38:06.720 not early

00:38:07.280 he's well

00:38:08.060 aged but I

00:38:09.340 think he's in

00:38:09.920 the early stages

00:38:10.520 of dementia

00:38:11.020 or alzheimer's

00:38:11.880 or you know

00:38:13.560 what I've been

00:38:13.960 told by a few

00:38:15.000 physicians not

00:38:15.900 just one

00:38:16.480 they think he's

00:38:17.400 got parkinson's

00:38:18.800 because all of

00:38:19.300 the symptoms of

00:38:19.980 parkinson's I

00:38:20.660 looked it up on

00:38:21.400 google I

00:38:21.940 think lots of

00:38:22.400 other people

00:38:22.780 did too it's

00:38:23.500 like wow I

00:38:25.040 think they're

00:38:25.400 right but like

00:38:27.140 you know I was

00:38:27.880 shocked then I

00:38:28.700 was depressed

00:38:29.340 and then and

00:38:30.520 now I'm just

00:38:30.960 mad because

00:38:31.680 getting back to

00:38:32.340 your point you

00:38:33.920 know if he's

00:38:35.540 declined over six

00:38:36.380 months as you

00:38:36.880 said dramatically

00:38:37.800 or it's been over

00:38:38.860 the past four

00:38:39.540 years you know

00:38:40.160 people should go

00:38:40.680 look at the clips

00:38:41.280 of him four years

00:38:42.000 ago it's shocking

00:38:42.800 difference oh

00:38:44.000 huge it's been

00:38:45.420 hidden from us

00:38:46.600 you know his

00:38:47.960 family uh his

00:38:50.400 his staff you

00:38:52.300 know senior

00:38:52.640 people the

00:38:53.080 democratic party

00:38:53.800 they hid this

00:38:55.320 like it's just

00:38:56.580 you know it's

00:38:57.920 like FDR you

00:38:59.720 know they used

00:39:00.240 to hide him

00:39:00.860 being in his

00:39:01.460 wheelchair but

00:39:02.140 he had his

00:39:02.500 cane and it

00:39:03.440 was different

00:39:03.900 era now you

00:39:05.920 know like we

00:39:06.460 were entitled to

00:39:07.280 know this

00:39:07.840 americans were

00:39:08.540 entitled to know

00:39:09.200 this well the

00:39:10.060 whole world

00:39:10.920 look it may

00:39:12.240 seem like an

00:39:12.820 antiquated phrase

00:39:13.640 but whoever is

00:39:15.640 the american

00:39:16.020 president is also

00:39:17.120 leader of the

00:39:17.840 free world

00:39:18.440 and and for

00:39:19.900 people to think

00:39:20.500 oh that's from

00:39:21.320 the uh the

00:39:22.920 the cold war era

00:39:23.940 it doesn't apply

00:39:24.580 anymore all right

00:39:25.480 china russia iran

00:39:27.140 north korea they're

00:39:28.000 all looking at this

00:39:28.640 and going all right

00:39:29.640 this is awesome all

00:39:31.320 the countries within

00:39:32.140 the orbits of

00:39:33.200 those those guys

00:39:34.360 think this is our

00:39:35.420 opportunity to do

00:39:36.620 what we want to

00:39:37.400 fuck around and

00:39:38.100 find out i don't

00:39:39.900 want them to be

00:39:41.000 able to fuck

00:39:41.460 around and find

00:39:42.120 out because the

00:39:42.700 president of the

00:39:43.560 united states is

00:39:45.320 incapacitated in

00:39:46.540 some way and this

00:39:47.880 does not make me a

00:39:48.780 trumper you've known

00:39:49.780 my view on trump

00:39:50.560 for a long time i

00:39:51.420 would have preferred

00:39:52.140 two different

00:39:52.740 candidates for both

00:39:53.700 parties you know

00:39:54.520 and switch trump

00:39:55.580 out for nikki

00:39:56.280 haley or somebody

00:39:57.220 uh but to

00:40:00.240 continue to run

00:40:01.260 him and deny it

00:40:02.220 it is remarkable

00:40:04.120 you've had senator

00:40:05.280 claire mccaskill

00:40:06.180 coming out saying

00:40:07.560 something's got to

00:40:08.580 give you've had

00:40:09.140 van jones

00:40:09.820 on cnn

00:40:11.420 joy reed on

00:40:12.540 msnbc these are

00:40:13.760 people that would

00:40:14.520 defend the

00:40:15.780 president if

00:40:16.940 they're the leader

00:40:18.080 of their party

00:40:18.700 taking a dump in

00:40:19.720 the middle of the

00:40:20.220 stage during a

00:40:20.960 debate and and

00:40:22.860 they can't defend

00:40:23.720 this so you know

00:40:26.160 that tells you that

00:40:27.080 it's it's not just

00:40:28.040 republicans it's not

00:40:29.120 just its critics

00:40:30.060 it's holy shit

00:40:31.500 but you know the

00:40:33.780 fact is he's still

00:40:34.660 president and that

00:40:35.620 scares the hell out

00:40:36.380 of me

00:40:36.620 exactly and the

00:40:38.380 thing is you know

00:40:38.900 getting back to

00:40:39.440 another important

00:40:40.340 point you made

00:40:41.080 like um you

00:40:43.340 know people

00:40:43.900 democratic spinners

00:40:45.120 were out there not

00:40:45.880 ben jones but some

00:40:46.840 others saying well

00:40:47.880 you know trump's

00:40:48.620 declined too you

00:40:49.660 know he he was

00:40:50.860 unhinged he was

00:40:51.820 crazy and stuff but

00:40:52.860 you know the point

00:40:53.440 i always make is

00:40:54.200 well he always is

00:40:56.320 you know people are

00:40:57.140 used to that voters

00:40:58.020 are used to that in

00:40:58.820 the united states

00:40:59.340 they're not used to

00:41:00.220 this with

00:41:00.720 exactly exactly it

00:41:02.640 was a shock

00:41:03.180 if i can say one

00:41:04.360 positive thing about

00:41:05.180 the debate on

00:41:05.740 thursday uh i think

00:41:07.540 that we should have

00:41:08.700 a section in every

00:41:10.100 presidential prime

00:41:10.960 ministerial debate

00:41:11.840 going forward where

00:41:13.540 people shit talk each

00:41:14.600 other about their

00:41:15.240 golf game or fishing

00:41:17.480 the one that got

00:41:18.300 away it's like oh

00:41:19.120 no you never caught

00:41:19.840 one that big i mean

00:41:20.520 they sounded at one

00:41:21.480 point like two bros

00:41:22.520 arguing in a bar i

00:41:24.480 think that should be a

00:41:25.300 segment in every

00:41:26.000 debate

00:41:26.300 carl belange and

00:41:28.100 cfra this where he

00:41:29.040 said remind him the

00:41:29.900 two guys on the

00:41:31.040 muppets you know the

00:41:32.240 two old guys yelling

00:41:33.200 at each other but

00:41:34.380 unfortunately in the

00:41:37.180 middle of the debate

00:41:37.780 i was posting clips of

00:41:38.860 waldorf and statler and

00:41:40.380 then of um jack

00:41:41.900 lemon and uh walter

00:41:43.840 matthew from grumpy

00:41:45.320 old men what

00:41:46.040 what just yelling at

00:41:49.060 each other

00:41:49.520 so um what about my

00:41:53.480 thesis uh which i've

00:41:55.380 advanced i'm not sure

00:41:56.260 where i advanced it

00:41:57.080 um i was thinking you

00:41:59.380 know i think i feel

00:42:01.320 someone's happy in

00:42:02.300 canada i can feel

00:42:03.220 happiness somewhere

00:42:04.300 and i was like it's

00:42:06.060 justin trudeau

00:42:06.860 he now has a real a

00:42:09.480 much more realistic

00:42:10.420 argument to make about

00:42:11.740 trump becoming president

00:42:13.040 and you can't have

00:42:14.120 pier poliev uh as

00:42:16.280 prime minister when

00:42:17.300 justin true when uh

00:42:18.760 donald trump is

00:42:19.440 president like i my

00:42:22.240 sense is there's some

00:42:23.300 people much more

00:42:24.840 susceptible to that

00:42:26.240 final argument that

00:42:28.120 justin trudeau's got

00:42:29.040 what do you think

00:42:29.700 well i mean they've

00:42:31.720 been trying to brand

00:42:32.560 him as donald trump

00:42:34.240 for doesn't work

00:42:35.720 six months hasn't

00:42:36.940 worked yet

00:42:37.620 doesn't work the

00:42:38.820 numbers haven't

00:42:39.640 changed i could see

00:42:41.520 movement of a few

00:42:42.900 points if trump is

00:42:44.660 elected and you know

00:42:45.860 the circus starts up

00:42:46.940 again um but oh so

00:42:51.020 far i mean the

00:42:51.920 liberals have finally

00:42:52.580 come out with an

00:42:53.100 attack ad against

00:42:53.980 pier poliev not much

00:42:55.140 of an ad because they

00:42:56.020 have no money to run

00:42:56.900 it so they're posting

00:42:58.000 it on social media

00:42:59.040 to their true and

00:42:59.900 on followers who

00:43:00.740 already hate pierre i'm

00:43:02.400 not sure that's going

00:43:03.420 to be effective um it's

00:43:05.700 it could be worth a few

00:43:07.880 points uh but not

00:43:09.480 enough to close the 19

00:43:11.140 to 20 point gap and uh

00:43:14.320 daryl bricker one of

00:43:15.920 the the deans of canadian

00:43:17.360 polling did uh a poll for

00:43:21.720 canada day for global

00:43:22.820 news came out this week

00:43:24.200 and 70 percent agree

00:43:27.140 with pier poliev's

00:43:28.460 central thesis that

00:43:30.040 canada is broken that

00:43:31.380 our institutions don't

00:43:32.560 work and that something

00:43:33.620 has to change and i was

00:43:36.040 chatting with daryl the

00:43:37.760 other day and he said

00:43:39.580 you know people keep

00:43:40.380 telling me don't

00:43:41.280 underestimate trudeau he

00:43:43.380 said i'm not and they

00:43:44.620 point to um the boxing

00:43:46.680 match with patrick

00:43:48.020 brasso and they say you

00:43:48.980 know people are

00:43:49.560 underestimated trudeau

00:43:50.800 then and look at what

00:43:52.580 happened and daryl's

00:43:53.960 response is he's not

00:43:55.980 boxing patrick brazzo

00:43:58.240 anymore he's fighting

00:43:59.920 against a desire for

00:44:01.560 change and that's like

00:44:02.640 boxing mike tyson yeah a

00:44:05.580 21 point lead so um you

00:44:08.920 know it's gonna be i agree

00:44:09.960 with you it's gonna possibly

00:44:11.760 narrow the gap possibly but

00:44:13.420 it's not enough so this

00:44:16.160 week we saw people who

00:44:17.760 don't surprise me no names

00:44:19.760 from the atlantic in the

00:44:22.040 liberal caucus percy down

00:44:24.220 john manley these are all

00:44:26.100 people who have griped

00:44:27.300 about trudeau in the past i

00:44:29.740 was surprised by catherine

00:44:30.820 mckenna you know she was

00:44:32.400 right there uh in the cult and

00:44:35.780 drinking the kool-aid for

00:44:37.020 many years she was a trudeau

00:44:38.300 cabinet minister

00:44:39.180 she's openly calling for him

00:44:41.980 to go it reminded me of the

00:44:44.540 what i went through with

00:44:45.720 kretzian what we went

00:44:46.800 through you know with the

00:44:48.440 sniping at you from the

00:44:50.440 sidelines within and without

00:44:51.760 caucus and it's it's a big

00:44:53.760 distraction it's hard to get

00:44:54.920 any kind of popularity when

00:44:56.160 your own party's against you

00:44:57.240 what do you think

00:44:57.860 well i think you're gonna hear

00:45:01.040 more calls over the next

00:45:02.580 while and you know i wasn't

00:45:04.520 surprised it was wayne

00:45:05.560 along from ubrunswick who did

00:45:06.940 that uh wayne is kind of an

00:45:10.700 old-style liberal what would

00:45:13.020 now be considered an old-style

00:45:14.260 liberal he's not part of the

00:45:15.780 the trudeau movement he

00:45:17.660 believes in the liberal

00:45:18.480 party he has a business

00:45:20.240 background he was doing

00:45:22.100 pretty well when they were

00:45:23.740 first elected in 2015 and

00:45:25.360 then he said too many things

00:45:26.420 that were kind of the

00:45:27.540 business community kind of

00:45:28.700 got sidelined um and so he's

00:45:32.320 not running again he doesn't

00:45:34.120 need this job uh there's a lot

00:45:36.200 of them that need this job

00:45:37.580 this is the best job they're

00:45:38.480 ever going to have that's not

00:45:39.540 the case for wayne long so he

00:45:40.760 writes the letter

00:45:41.460 uh there are a lot more mps who

00:45:46.400 would sign on to it if they

00:45:48.260 didn't feel that that they you

00:45:51.980 know i don't feel they can uh

00:45:54.040 afford it because what are they

00:45:56.760 going to do if they lose this

00:45:57.760 there's some folks that are going

00:45:59.080 to retire um but over the course

00:46:02.080 of the summer i think trudeau's

00:46:03.680 going to face more of this and

00:46:04.840 he's also going to have a lot of

00:46:05.960 mps saying

00:46:06.680 you know i'm moving on to other

00:46:09.420 opportunities or i've decided

00:46:11.860 that now is the right time to

00:46:13.440 spend more time with my family

00:46:14.940 and think about life

00:46:16.140 uh yeah and in some cases it will

00:46:18.800 be true like there's some of

00:46:20.320 these guys who had good careers

00:46:22.020 before they got into politics

00:46:23.480 and they're at or near retirement

00:46:27.140 age generally speaking and they'll

00:46:29.220 be looking at this and going you

00:46:31.220 know i will go spend more time with

00:46:32.520 my family but others uh i think

00:46:34.480 they're looking for an exit they're

00:46:36.420 looking for a different job

00:46:37.660 and because they're if you can

00:46:40.920 lose toronto st paul's where is

00:46:43.820 there a safe liberal seat well i

00:46:45.160 would argue arwa vanier the west

00:46:47.400 island of montreal although

00:46:49.080 apparently apparently um lasalle

00:46:52.600 mart in montreal which was paul

00:46:55.440 martin's riding the liberals are

00:46:58.020 worried about losing it to a

00:46:59.160 popular counselor who's running in

00:47:01.280 the by-election to replace david

00:47:02.720 lametti under the ndp banner

00:47:05.160 yeah losing lasalle lamard yeah

00:47:08.900 right yeah no carl belage on cfra

00:47:12.640 this morning you know who was an

00:47:13.960 advisor to to jack layton said the

00:47:17.200 same thing yeah he said uh they think

00:47:20.040 they can win it the ndp thinks they

00:47:21.700 can win that would be huge but the

00:47:23.760 ndp needs to get its act together

00:47:25.380 because uh you know they normally

00:47:28.320 underperform the national numbers in

00:47:30.280 toronto st paul's but they barely

00:47:32.080 made double digits um in that by

00:47:35.720 election and that's the that's the

00:47:37.640 only reason that church was as close

00:47:40.140 as she was i mean look i'm i was

00:47:41.700 surprised by the result i had been

00:47:43.020 saying that the conservatives

00:47:44.160 wouldn't win it but i think the ndp

00:47:47.080 got 10.9 percent but there's you know

00:47:50.000 we're all talking about how the

00:47:51.540 conservatives can start stealing seats

00:47:54.920 from the liberals uh eto anything with

00:47:57.620 the name etobicoke win it etobicoke

00:47:59.320 lakeshore center north they can win a

00:48:02.560 couple of the don mills writings they

00:48:04.100 can win few of the scarborough ones

00:48:05.680 york center willowdale they can win

00:48:08.320 all these but then there's writings

00:48:10.080 like parkdale high park

00:48:11.480 davenport um maybe even toronto center

00:48:15.220 where i'm sitting right now uh where

00:48:17.900 the ndp could come in and win they did

00:48:19.760 in 2011 but they got to get their act

00:48:22.180 together and i don't see the same kind

00:48:24.220 of discipline and organization that i saw

00:48:28.080 in 2011 from from jack layton and tom

00:48:32.960 mulcair was his organizational second

00:48:35.060 in command um tom mulcair had a big role

00:48:38.620 especially in quebec and winning that

00:48:40.120 if they get organized they can start

00:48:42.420 stealing these toronto seats from the

00:48:44.160 liberals but you know they've got to

00:48:47.100 get their act together and if that

00:48:48.800 happens that the liberals are are toast

00:48:51.780 for uh 10 years like they were

00:48:54.400 uh yeah back you know

00:48:56.380 yeah final one um you know uh goldie

00:49:03.740 so the tory mpp who was kicked out of

00:49:07.760 the pc caucus in queens park you know

00:49:11.300 i know her i like her and you know she's

00:49:15.540 a passionate person she um very involved

00:49:19.500 in you know the iranian issue pretty pro

00:49:22.220 israel i've had a lot of jewish canadians

00:49:24.280 getting in touch with me this week i'm

00:49:25.620 sure you have too saying they're mad at

00:49:27.800 doug ford for kicking her out and i've

00:49:29.960 said to them well here stay tuned i'm

00:49:32.160 going to google in 30 seconds um some of

00:49:35.620 the reasons why doug ford had no choice

00:49:37.800 which is her meeting with this notorious

00:49:39.740 british neo-nazi tommy robinson um because

00:49:43.240 he is one and um you know he's he's not a

00:49:46.640 good guy and the point i made is you know

00:49:48.960 they could have she could have just

00:49:50.480 googled his name and seen the same stuff

00:49:53.280 um but she met with him anyway what did

00:49:56.300 you think about that one maybe conclude

00:49:57.860 with like it's to me it's not so much

00:50:00.060 her it's the issue you know politicians

00:50:02.340 being smart about people they meet with

00:50:04.320 you've got to have a practice good

00:50:06.960 political hygiene i found it a bit rich

00:50:08.920 that merit styles was complaining about

00:50:10.920 who goldie gamari was meeting with

00:50:12.940 because uh i remember writing up about

00:50:15.180 merit styles standing under a flag of a

00:50:17.520 terrorist group from iran uh to denounce

00:50:20.720 donald trump it's utterly bizarre that

00:50:23.000 photo is still out there but you know

00:50:25.720 what surprised me about this is that

00:50:28.040 gamari has been at battling with rebel an

00:50:33.540 organization that i rarely even utter the

00:50:35.560 words in public uh since i left in 2017

00:50:38.680 she's been battling them since 2016

00:50:41.600 uh they published an article that is

00:50:45.260 recently as november she had been

00:50:46.720 threatening to sue them over claiming that

00:50:48.460 she was a social justice warrior and

00:50:50.840 trying to bring sharia law to canada and

00:50:52.580 things like that that's you know what

00:50:54.320 her argument is and you can google that

00:50:56.800 you'll find the the the twitter posts now

00:50:59.720 x post between her and and ezra levant

00:51:02.060 uh she's been fighting them and

00:51:04.460 robinson came to canada with rebel um

00:51:08.220 and you know she said well i didn't know

00:51:12.100 who he was as you say 30 second google

00:51:14.240 search you should be doing those um for

00:51:17.680 anyone you want to meet with i do it and

00:51:19.960 and i'm not an elected official but

00:51:21.440 somebody wants to meet me i'm like okay

00:51:23.060 well who are you and why exactly and you

00:51:26.320 just look them up and you you say yay or

00:51:29.920 nay but this was um this was not the

00:51:33.940 first incident and if it had been she'd

00:51:36.620 still be in caucus but um you know as you

00:51:41.220 say i know goldie uh still talk to her but

00:51:44.400 this was i think from the ford guys view

00:51:48.640 just part of a pattern and she knew that

00:51:51.300 it was making the center unhappy and she

00:51:55.860 was going forward with it anyway and it

00:51:57.960 look this is part of why i've i have never

00:52:00.780 run despite being asked several times you

00:52:03.640 you've got to be a team player and if you

00:52:07.340 can't be a team player you can't be part of

00:52:08.920 the team and that's what it comes down to

00:52:10.700 so you know she's going to stay on as an

00:52:13.080 mpp will she run again next time i don't

00:52:16.400 know could she get elected in carlton

00:52:18.080 she's pretty popular there uh that's a

00:52:20.720 riding that i used to live in while back

00:52:22.860 when i was in ottawa know it well um so

00:52:26.380 she could win again but if the pcs mount a

00:52:29.020 strong candidate against her that is a

00:52:31.560 solidly blue riding so it would be a

00:52:34.160 tussle the liberals are now chomping at the

00:52:37.060 bit that she does run as an independent

00:52:39.020 and uh in that way they can win the

00:52:41.980 riding which i'm really not too sure

00:52:44.180 about no me neither well i've had uh i

00:52:47.680 haven't anybody recently asked me to run

00:52:49.420 for them because i've got jurassic park in

00:52:51.600 my sketch in my closet right so it would

00:52:54.740 just it wouldn't work out well for

00:52:56.600 anybody well listen man thank you so

00:52:58.800 much for your wisdom today i think you're

00:53:01.060 up looking at the toronto skyline i am

00:53:03.780 it's beautiful morning and off to a jays

00:53:05.700 game you have a great time at the game

00:53:08.160 and have a great week thank you my

00:53:09.620 friend thank you

00:53:11.240 you can't write some cutting wood

00:53:22.080 i tell myself that every day you don't

00:53:25.720 need a lesson

00:53:27.040 do anything just end up back here and

00:53:30.400 you know the people say

00:53:31.760 it's repetitious and exhausting i'm a

00:53:35.460 little happy

00:53:36.360 and you think you'll keep me in check

00:53:39.980 through the day

00:53:41.020 hey yeah

00:53:42.200 hey yeah

00:53:43.400 don't think about your love

00:53:45.800 i'm ready steady shake it i'm gonna need a

00:53:50.360 second

00:53:50.660 but i hate the taste of medicine you just

00:53:54.920 need to let her go

00:53:56.160 these pills shaking in my head just make me feel

00:54:00.000 a fever

00:54:00.580 like i'm not able to just let her go

00:54:05.420 anyway

00:54:06.420 hey yeah

00:54:07.420 hey yeah

00:54:08.420 i hate this part but i love this cause

00:54:14.120 and the empty fire just means i need to

00:54:17.980 score

00:54:18.660 and the fire this morning

00:54:21.260 they fed my head

00:54:23.860 this day was so happy because i'm not dead

00:54:28.420 i just can't seem to get away

00:54:40.220 there's no such thing as you scare people with the

00:54:44.000 sad hands

00:54:45.220 you're always in the sense that thoughts into a

00:54:48.880 normal sense

00:54:50.120 i never take down anything you just have to

00:54:53.720 shaken

00:54:54.400 and it's constantly repeated

00:54:57.780 through the dust

00:54:59.060 hey yeah

00:55:00.220 hey yeah

00:55:01.320 through the dust

00:55:03.920 hey yeah

00:55:05.040 hey yeah

00:55:06.040 hey yeah

00:55:06.480 I hate this place

00:55:10.220 But I love these calls

00:55:12.820 And I'm defying

00:55:14.780 The time isn't scored

00:55:17.260 And the party is falling

00:55:19.600 And filled my head

00:55:22.460 It's jealous of

00:55:24.460 And we're tired of not dead

00:55:26.940 I hate this place

00:55:29.360 But I love these calls

00:55:32.260 And I'm defying

00:55:34.300 The time isn't scored

00:55:36.720 And the party is falling

00:55:39.080 And filled my head

00:55:41.920 It's jealous of

00:55:43.920 And we're tired of not dead

00:55:46.420 This is CFRA Live

00:55:59.460 Sunday Political Panel

00:56:04.300 And welcome to it

00:56:05.700 Lots to get to this morning

00:56:07.120 On our Political Panel

00:56:08.120 Joining us on the phone

00:56:09.000 Is Tasha Carradine

00:56:09.780 Political columnist

00:56:10.600 For the National Post

00:56:11.460 Author and writer

00:56:12.220 For GZERO Media

00:56:13.240 Tasha, thanks so much

00:56:14.480 For joining us

00:56:15.000 Happy Sunday

00:56:15.600 Happy Sunday

00:56:17.280 Warren Kinsella

00:56:18.160 Strategist and Postmedia columnist

00:56:19.600 You can read his latest

00:56:20.480 In the Toronto Sun

00:56:21.520 Warren, thanks for joining us

00:56:22.880 Morning guys

00:56:23.940 And Carl Belanger

00:56:24.900 Is the president

00:56:25.400 At Traction Strategies

00:56:26.580 Happy Canada Day

00:56:27.440 Early a bit, Carl

00:56:28.500 And same to you guys

00:56:30.040 On this holiday long weekend

00:56:32.860 I know the Prime Minister

00:56:33.740 Probably has a lot

00:56:34.520 On his mind

00:56:35.280 Let's just start

00:56:36.900 I guess

00:56:37.200 With the by-election victory

00:56:38.420 Because when we were

00:56:39.100 Chatting last week

00:56:39.740 I think

00:56:40.420 Tasha

00:56:41.140 I think even the

00:56:42.060 Conservatives

00:56:42.560 Probably would have

00:56:43.580 Taken a close result

00:56:44.920 As a win

00:56:45.700 In many senses

00:56:46.440 But this

00:56:47.000 Was very surprising

00:56:48.480 It was surprising

00:56:51.080 And it was a squeaker

00:56:53.000 And I actually

00:56:54.240 Spoke to the candidate

00:56:55.000 After he won

00:56:56.560 And the squeaker

00:56:59.040 Came because there

00:56:59.720 Was one poll

00:57:00.400 At the end

00:57:00.980 There were two polls

00:57:01.720 Where the Conservatives

00:57:02.480 Knew they would lead

00:57:04.140 And they were the ones

00:57:05.060 That were the last ones

00:57:05.820 Counted

00:57:06.400 So he said that

00:57:08.000 You know

00:57:08.260 We were keeping

00:57:08.760 Our hopes up

00:57:09.540 Even though it was

00:57:10.720 Obviously touch and go

00:57:11.940 But that this would be

00:57:13.320 Actually a victory

00:57:14.320 At the end of the day

00:57:15.040 And it was

00:57:15.620 By 590 votes

00:57:17.160 So it's

00:57:19.580 It was something

00:57:21.160 That nobody

00:57:22.280 In the punditry

00:57:23.460 Saw coming

00:57:24.100 Because everyone

00:57:24.820 I think

00:57:25.220 Just assumed

00:57:25.880 The Liberal seat

00:57:26.800 It's been a Liberal seat

00:57:27.540 Since 1993

00:57:28.200 That it would stay

00:57:29.600 That way

00:57:30.020 But be close

00:57:30.700 And even a close

00:57:31.600 Result

00:57:32.600 Would have been seen

00:57:33.660 As very damaging

00:57:34.720 To the Prime Minister

00:57:35.620 But this is

00:57:37.340 It's catastrophic

00:57:39.300 Quite frankly

00:57:40.200 And there are

00:57:41.660 Former by-elections

00:57:42.420 To go

00:57:42.900 In the next year

00:57:44.020 A couple of which

00:57:45.080 Also are

00:57:46.020 Really I think

00:57:47.120 A toss up

00:57:47.580 For the Liberals

00:57:48.160 So he's got

00:57:49.600 A lot of thinking

00:57:50.040 To do

00:57:50.420 Like you said

00:57:51.040 Warren I guess

00:57:52.720 I don't think

00:57:54.340 Entirely surprised

00:57:55.320 You said

00:57:55.700 You know

00:57:55.940 This would be

00:57:56.800 The alarm bells

00:57:57.520 You know

00:57:57.760 If they did

00:57:58.220 Lose this seat

00:57:58.860 Is it time

00:57:59.800 For the Liberals

00:58:00.520 To start panicking

00:58:01.360 About who their leader is

00:58:02.420 Well it's never

00:58:03.880 A good idea

00:58:04.360 To panic

00:58:04.980 But yeah

00:58:06.680 All of us

00:58:07.860 Were surprised

00:58:08.760 I predicted

00:58:10.240 On last week's show

00:58:11.200 That the Liberals

00:58:12.700 Would eke it out

00:58:14.100 Not because

00:58:14.860 It's a fortress

00:58:15.660 Necessarily

00:58:16.860 But you know

00:58:18.400 It's been a pretty

00:58:19.520 Safe spot

00:58:20.400 For them

00:58:21.120 As Tash has

00:58:22.020 Pointed out

00:58:22.500 For three decades

00:58:23.840 But you know

00:58:26.240 Polyev hadn't

00:58:27.160 Been campaigning

00:58:28.140 There I think

00:58:28.700 Since May

00:58:29.360 Jenny Byrne

00:58:30.960 Who runs

00:58:31.720 His campaign

00:58:32.620 Was

00:58:33.840 All of an

00:58:34.900 Angrily

00:58:35.840 Saying to reporters

00:58:37.000 Those of us

00:58:37.580 Who were calling

00:58:38.220 Saying we're not

00:58:39.300 Going to win

00:58:39.720 We're not going

00:58:40.500 To win

00:58:40.840 And then they

00:58:41.980 Won

00:58:42.280 And I think

00:58:43.700 People are

00:58:44.060 Surprised

00:58:44.340 It's a testament

00:58:45.180 To the hard work

00:58:45.940 Of the candidate

00:58:46.560 It was always

00:58:47.640 Going to be tough

00:58:48.340 But there were

00:58:49.760 Signs at the end

00:58:50.800 You know

00:58:51.100 Shipping down

00:58:51.800 Staff from Ottawa

00:58:52.760 Because they

00:58:53.240 Couldn't find

00:58:53.660 Enough people

00:58:54.220 To work on

00:58:54.800 Leslie Church's

00:58:55.600 Campaign

00:58:56.000 Who was the

00:58:57.000 Liberal candidate

00:58:57.740 Half of the

00:58:59.080 Liberal cabinet

00:58:59.900 Showing up

00:59:00.720 You know

00:59:01.620 The Prime

00:59:02.000 Minister

00:59:02.380 Saying and

00:59:03.480 Doing things

00:59:03.960 You could tell

00:59:05.580 At the end

00:59:06.120 That they were

00:59:06.720 Panicked

00:59:07.320 And

00:59:08.040 Themselves

00:59:09.320 But

00:59:10.100 You know

00:59:11.140 Has panic

00:59:12.000 Set in

00:59:12.520 Since then

00:59:13.140 It just

00:59:13.780 Reminds me

00:59:14.440 Of the

00:59:14.780 Biden thing

00:59:15.520 You get

00:59:15.940 These people

00:59:16.400 Just gotten

00:59:17.140 A kick

00:59:17.660 In the head

00:59:18.260 You know

00:59:19.140 And they're

00:59:19.520 Walking around

00:59:20.180 Saying oh

00:59:20.760 It's just

00:59:21.160 A flesh wound

00:59:21.900 You know

00:59:22.260 Like in a

00:59:22.640 Monty Python

00:59:23.280 Sketch

00:59:23.820 Like it

00:59:25.140 Was big

00:59:25.700 Like Tasha

00:59:26.520 Says

00:59:26.840 It was

00:59:27.400 Really big

00:59:28.240 And the

00:59:29.280 Government's

00:59:29.640 Not going

00:59:29.880 To fall

00:59:30.200 Because of

00:59:30.740 It

00:59:30.940 But it's

00:59:32.200 A clear

00:59:32.540 Indicator

00:59:33.100 That the

00:59:33.520 Liberal

00:59:33.720 Party

00:59:34.160 Is

00:59:35.280 Heading

00:59:35.740 To a

00:59:36.260 Disastrous

00:59:36.960 Loss

00:59:37.380 And they

00:59:37.760 Need to

00:59:38.000 Take it

00:59:38.260 Seriously

00:59:38.620 And I

00:59:39.100 Don't

00:59:39.220 Think they

00:59:39.560 Are

00:59:39.800 Carl

00:59:40.980 Were you

00:59:41.740 You were

00:59:42.500 All shocked

00:59:42.960 By the

00:59:43.300 Result

00:59:43.940 Here

00:59:44.160 As

00:59:44.600 Warren

00:59:44.920 Kind of

00:59:45.180 Alluded

00:59:45.540 To a

00:59:45.820 Little bit

00:59:46.040 Of a

00:59:46.240 Squeaker

00:59:46.520 Here

00:59:46.740 About

00:59:46.940 500

00:59:47.280 Votes

00:59:47.680 Not

00:59:48.860 Not as

00:59:49.100 Shocked

00:59:49.360 As

00:59:49.500 Liberal

00:59:49.780 MPs

00:59:50.280 Were

00:59:50.520 By the

00:59:52.700 Reaction

00:59:53.120 We've

00:59:53.400 Seen

00:59:53.560 This

00:59:53.820 Week

00:59:54.120 They

00:59:54.520 All

00:59:55.320 Know

00:59:55.660 Now

00:59:56.120 That

00:59:56.860 If they

00:59:57.140 Thought

00:59:57.340 They

00:59:57.500 Were

00:59:57.640 Safe

00:59:58.020 They

00:59:58.580 Realize

00:59:59.080 They're

00:59:59.320 Not

00:59:59.700 They

01:00:00.060 Realize

01:00:00.460 That

01:00:00.680 No

01:00:01.020 Safe

01:00:01.680 Seat

01:00:02.400 Exists

01:00:02.880 In

01:00:03.400 The

01:00:03.500 Liberal

01:00:03.740 Ream

01:00:04.180 And

01:01:04.620 That

01:01:04.820 That

01:01:04.840 Would

01:01:04.940 In

01:01:05.080 The

01:01:05.560 Fundraising

01:01:06.020 Everything

01:01:06.380 That

01:01:06.580 Would

01:01:06.680 Be

01:01:06.800 Involved

01:01:07.080 In

01:01:07.220 A

01:01:07.300 New

01:01:07.420 Leadership

01:01:07.780 Race

01:01:08.080 To

01:01:08.200 Get

01:01:08.340 That

01:01:08.520 Done

01:01:08.740 Do

01:01:09.260 You

01:01:09.360 Think

01:01:09.580 That's

01:01:09.920 Reasonable

01:01:10.480 Carl

01:01:10.860 To get

01:01:11.160 Done

01:01:11.340 Before

01:01:11.580 The

01:01:11.720 Next

01:01:11.880 Election

01:01:12.260 I

01:01:13.060 Guess

01:01:13.260 At least

01:01:13.600 The

01:01:13.740 Liberals

01:01:13.940 Are

01:01:14.080 Thinking

01:01:14.240 About it

01:01:14.500 Right

01:01:14.640 Now

01:01:14.820 But

01:01:14.960 Is it

01:01:15.200 Reasonable

01:01:15.680 well it's going to be difficult effectively because i mean there's a new the new trend in

01:01:23.180 in canada is to have long leadership race now it doesn't need to be long like it could it could

01:01:28.240 happen in two months it could happen three months trudeau could resign now and could have a new

01:01:31.840 leader by the fall uh is it going to happen i don't know i don't think so because i think trudeau

01:01:37.200 still wants to fight well yeah i think trudeau still believe that he's got it in him to defeat

01:01:43.280 pierre poiliev and he wants to have that fight and to be fair um right now if you look at the polling

01:01:49.740 a lot of voters say they'd like trudeau to go but when you poll different candidates to replace

01:01:56.260 trudeau nobody does better than him so why would you change leader in the laws in losing cause

01:02:01.940 for somebody that could lose even even worse than trudeau that could be the the best of a bad

01:02:07.480 situation in some senses but i guess warren from what we've seen with from all the the well current

01:02:13.100 liberal mp and one in caucus that's been speaking out but a couple of other past mps that have been

01:02:17.760 speaking out as well saying that that trudeau needs to go here do you think we're going to

01:02:21.160 continue to see that that pressure on the prime minister to to make a decision yes probably um

01:02:27.440 you know they're going to be looking at the polls to see if there's any change again but for you know

01:02:31.560 more than a year there hasn't been they've been behind by 15 or 20 points and what started to

01:02:37.600 happen this week it's not panic you know to use the word you used andrew but you know i've been

01:02:42.940 through this before i went through this with mr kretchen when i was working for him you know it's

01:02:47.540 like one member of caucus a member of the senate you know a couple former candidates a couple people

01:02:53.140 nobody's ever heard of these things it's like being nibbled to death by a thousand ducks it's slow

01:02:58.860 right they do a build and they do it that way to see how you're going to react or if it's going to work

01:03:03.920 because you don't they were working on putting together that matter on friday members of caucus

01:03:08.940 they did have many people who were willing to sign it and then they got cold feet at the end so that's

01:03:14.500 why you just saw one liberal mp do it but they you know i was being told i was getting messages from

01:03:20.340 from people saying watch at lunchtime on friday watch at lunchtime something big's coming and then it

01:03:27.340 was this one mp nobody had ever heard of and it was like oh well you know that's kind of fizzled but

01:03:33.340 again you know they have to take it seriously because this is how these things start they start

01:03:37.120 slow and tasha just from the the liberals perspective as i mentioned it might be a little

01:03:41.920 bit tough to get a leadership campaign up uh in going right now still does fairly well in polling

01:03:47.100 when it comes head-to-head to to peer polyam but you know just this seriously question i guess that

01:03:51.460 true to his viability as far as um the the candidate here to lead the party in the next election

01:03:55.680 yeah i think it's it's he's got he's got some serious choices to make here because it is the

01:04:02.700 death by a thousand cuts or death by a thousand ducks that's maybe more interesting that warren raised

01:04:07.440 there um that he's facing otherwise it's going to be very hard to manage a caucus that is actively

01:04:14.140 you know looking for the exit because you've got to get candidates for the next election and if you've

01:04:18.900 got people thinking they're going to lose well they may start thinking about not running again

01:04:23.300 um looking for other options in the private sector before they go down to defeat uh all sorts of

01:04:29.080 things so your party's going to become unmanageable that's a big risk um so trudeau has to to weigh all

01:04:35.940 that and yes other candidates aren't polling higher right now um but you know he he's facing almost

01:04:42.960 the same the same choice that macron faced in france and we're france is having elections today

01:04:49.380 because macron said okay my party got a shellacking in the european parliament elections we're going to

01:04:54.260 go for an election right now let's do it like let's gloves are off and people are shocked and he's

01:04:58.660 probably going to lose but the but you don't know and the point is that trudeau could do that trudeau

01:05:04.160 could pull the plug and call an election and say you know what you've all lost faith in me let's go

01:05:07.780 and see what happens and i think what's happening in the u.s is actually we're going to talk about that

01:05:13.920 too but i think it's actually going to help trudeau in a way because now the fear is

01:05:17.820 we're going to be facing donald trump in the u.s and that's changing the game for the entire world

01:05:22.920 including canada so um you know anything could happen but that is i think something he might even

01:05:28.240 consider is saying let's let's just do it rip the band-aid off it's a very interesting boy i do want

01:05:32.720 to come back to that kind of u.s point as well carl i wanted to ask you just in terms of if you're the

01:05:36.720 ndp here was looking at the results you know 11 of the vote here sorry yeah 11 of the vote here about

01:05:42.680 4 000 votes uh are you concerned if you're a member of the ndp watching the the shellacking

01:05:47.700 that uh the ndp also kind of received on the end of this as well because they have been propping up

01:05:52.660 the liberal government do you think any of these results that we're seeing in toronto st paul have

01:05:56.860 have any indication or um impact on on how the ndp is thinking uh i don't think so uh the ndp never

01:06:04.280 does well in by-election where they don't have a fighting chance and nobody thought the ndp could pull

01:06:09.400 this off now if they have invested um you know more resorters maybe they could have done something

01:06:15.600 there but they didn't think they they would have a chance to win so they did not uh what's interesting

01:06:21.600 is the by-election that's coming up in in la salle mar in montreal where they're running a popular

01:06:27.740 city councilor craig sauve and you are hearing noises about even the liberals saying we're going to lose

01:06:33.560 to these guys now if if jagmeet sings ndp wins that seat in quebec that is even bigger uh than

01:06:41.280 than the liberals losing toronto st paul uh because i mean la salle mar is paul martin's old seat

01:06:47.100 um they should not lose that but they are now talking openly so that national post about about

01:06:54.260 the fact that they could lose that seat to the ndp who finished third last time and so if that happens

01:07:00.280 um if you thought liberals were panicking this week just watch out yeah another interesting one

01:07:06.820 i'll be watching as well as the the halifax by-election as well because uh kind of kind of

01:07:10.800 goes back and forth between liberal and ndp a lot as well there has a a history there too just i wanted

01:07:16.000 to squeeze in a couple of more topics one of them on the opposition leader of course uh pierre

01:07:19.700 pauliev uh you know a lot of sunny ways for pierre pauliev right now when you're looking at the

01:07:23.960 the poll numbers but uh was reading a piece in the hill times this week talking about he has

01:07:27.980 the most potential here but there also is some concerns if if he were to fall into some some

01:07:33.060 pitfalls here uh tasha i think you kind of alluded to the to the u.s trump aspect here but what would

01:07:38.440 you tell pierre pauliev to avoid here over the next you know 12 months if you were advising him tasha

01:07:43.100 um i would say it's it's a state of course make sure you have no bimbo eruptions as they used to be

01:07:50.160 called uh or uh himbo eruptions of you know crazy stuff coming out of the party and um keep to

01:07:57.880 message discipline so you know i think that that's the economy it's crime those are the two big

01:08:03.740 issues that have resonated so far um i think that uh you know his his challenge will be exactly that

01:08:09.800 avoiding the deus ex machina and that could be from within the party or it could be things like

01:08:14.720 the donald trump they need a strategy to deal with that um and that's something i'm sure they

01:08:18.860 already contemplated but they they i think have to really stay on top of that one because that is one

01:08:23.600 of the only cards i think the liberals can actually play um and uh the liberals being desperate they

01:08:28.960 will probably play it hard in some way shape or form yeah yeah i think we've already seen them

01:08:33.120 kind of kind of play it hard thus far i guess uh warren kind of the same question but maybe phrased a

01:08:37.160 little bit differently i guess what's the biggest kind of risk or pitfall that pierre pauliev could

01:08:40.660 fall into with you know 20 points up in the polls well before i answer that question i just want to

01:08:46.060 applaud tasha for using latin on talk radio radio we're educating here i've been doing this stuff for a long

01:08:53.380 time but i don't think i've ever heard that before so i'm delighted to hear latin um i think it's what

01:08:58.920 she said earlier in english um like there's one canadian on thursday night you know i was you know

01:09:05.080 full disclosure i worked for biden as a volunteer in um the campaign that made him president and so

01:09:12.260 i'm biased but i was sitting there i couldn't sleep you know you're you get all jazzed up you get all

01:09:17.440 kind of messed up you know when you're waiting for election results hard to fall asleep and i was

01:09:23.320 like who's happy about this obviously the republicans i thought you know what justin trudeau's happy

01:09:28.600 tonight because now it is real and you know all next day and actually in all subsequent days i've

01:09:35.720 been hearing from canadians you know not americans who are really concerned now like this is real like

01:09:43.120 right now donald trump's gonna win he was winning going into the debate when those polls come out

01:09:48.320 showing the debate reaction like the big serious polls i think a lot of canadians are going to be

01:09:54.560 very very worried and the question they're going to ask themselves and trudeau's going to help them

01:09:59.100 along do you want pierre polyevre as prime minister when you have donald trump as president

01:10:06.080 and i'm already hearing from a lot of people saying no i don't want that i was happy to vote for

01:10:12.600 polyevre stay home if it was biden coming back i thought biden was going to come back

01:10:17.440 well now everything's changed i think trudeau's happy about that hey no question it definitely

01:10:23.800 helps uh well with their strategy that they've been maintaining so far i want to come back to

01:10:27.760 the u.s uh in a second but uh carl pierre polyev up in the polls huge as we mentioned you know

01:10:32.500 it almost seems like a coronation in some quarters but the idea what do you think is still out there at

01:10:38.220 risk for pierre polyevre when it comes to canadians heading to the polls and voting for him

01:10:41.560 when a ship is sinking you have to get out of the way and the danger is that probably everyone

01:10:46.500 that ship to think so bad that people try to help it think and and sometimes when you do that you

01:10:52.060 you're offering a boy to to the to the sinking ship and so so tasha's right like they have to stay

01:10:58.300 the course and keep saying what they're saying but temptation will be hard to say more things and

01:11:03.460 to push their own agenda and this is where you know we've seen it in the past the bozo eruption

01:11:09.220 happen where people are so confident they're so cocky that they they say things that gives a

01:11:15.380 lifeline to the sinking ship's captain and this is what could happen the danger is right there

01:11:20.400 so avoid to say those things be very disciplined stay focused on your message that has been working

01:11:27.220 uh because if you get out of that track uh you will maybe give a fighting chance to the liberals

01:11:34.640 and uh as i said we've seen that happen in the past sounds easy on paper it's uh it's a little

01:11:40.560 tougher in real life we'll see how it kind of scores out and i guess just well i've got you guys for a

01:11:44.380 few more minutes the the the um uh presidential debates out of the border we've alluded to it several

01:11:49.040 times just to kind of talk about that a little bit i warn you alluded to how kind of um uh your bias

01:11:53.940 towards joe biden which is kind of why i kind of wanted to ask you in a sense is this a you know

01:11:58.720 panic overblown right now or is there serious concerns here for the electorate and for the

01:12:03.580 democratic party about uh joe biden's uh ability to be president well i earlier said liberals shouldn't

01:12:10.220 panic um after saint paul's democrats should panic about this and so should nato and the european union

01:12:17.600 and ukraine and the baltic states and possibly israel those people should panic we should panic

01:12:23.400 because of what trump's been saying about trade and nato like it it is a disaster you know and i

01:12:30.280 love joe biden i have great affection for him i work for him i believe in him you know i've worked

01:12:35.900 for an old guy who mangled grammar and people you know uh underestimated all the time and that guy did

01:12:43.600 okay you can't come back from the 90 minutes of disaster we saw uh somebody who a lot of people

01:12:50.260 of affection for as well who's clearly ailing and so you know i kind of went from like it was like

01:12:57.060 kubler ross's you know five stages after death like i was depressed and then no i was shocked then i was

01:13:03.800 depressed now i'm angry because what i believe is biden's family his senior aides and senior democratic

01:13:12.400 people hid from the rest of us the full extent of this man's decline they participated in a fraud

01:13:19.260 and that fraud was was exposed on thursday night but they're not gonna be able to put that genie

01:13:24.440 back in the bottle like it's it's real and he it's cruel to him to put him up as the candidate again

01:13:30.840 but it looks like they're determined to do it there's five weeks left to have a contested convention

01:13:35.200 and i know it's a hail mary pass but that's the only way out i think at this point otherwise

01:13:39.920 you're gonna have trump as president just a quick follow is it kamala harris that's the natural you

01:13:44.720 know candidate here war what's your thoughts on that no her numbers are worse than his under the

01:13:49.120 25th amendment like if he if joe god help him drops dead or you know just quits under the 25th

01:13:56.040 amendment it she automatically becomes president but that's you know more of the same problem

01:14:00.640 um you know because i think a lot of american motors quite frankly are sexist

01:14:05.040 so uh because i work for hillary and i experienced that close hand so no i think you've got five

01:14:11.480 weeks here where biden says i'm gonna leave i'm gonna remain president until the swearing in and

01:14:17.380 we're gonna have an open contested convention like we used to and i'm gonna free up my delegates go

01:14:22.980 where they want and then newsome goes and shapiro and you know whitmer and whoever they all run and

01:14:29.200 it's an open convention will be the biggest televised event since the moon landing

01:14:32.480 and um it'll really help it'll really help these guys out but that's the only way out at this point

01:14:38.100 you could throw mayor pete into that mix as well i'm sure it would be fascinating to watch a final

01:14:43.020 kind of uh a showdown there uh carl just your your thoughts on just see i guess just your initial

01:14:48.680 reaction watching the debate i think everybody was kind of taking it back a little bit on thursday

01:14:51.900 night it was like watching the two old guys from the muppet show it was incredible like i keep

01:14:58.240 calling it cringe fest 2024 at the beginning it was bad enough when when when uh biden like said

01:15:04.420 proclaimed that he beat medicare somehow and and and trump you know jumped on that say yeah you beat

01:15:11.020 it to death and and and then at the end of the show they're arguing about their golf swing and their

01:15:15.540 handicap what was that it was embarrassing and you know you know the one who was laughing was

01:15:22.040 Vladimir Putin he must have been watching that was like laughing hard and slapping his his knees and

01:15:28.720 and and and just think like these guys are the leaders of the free world really and and this is

01:15:34.820 where it's so disheartening for people who are outside of this process looking at this because uh you

01:15:41.420 know the presidential debate back in the days used to be a very important moment where you saw guys with

01:15:49.560 different vision for sure but but guys that were credible and what the american voters saw in the

01:15:55.200 world saw is two guys that were not credible one because he's a pathological liar and a criminal to

01:16:03.220 boot and the other guy it was so much out of it i'm not sure if what was worse when he was talking or

01:16:09.480 when he was not yeah definitely i think you hit all the points there i tasha when it comes to i guess

01:16:17.000 yeah i guess your your initial reaction they say it's it's just something we we don't see in

01:16:20.800 politics so i think it was that more shot that much more shocking well i pitied biden and people

01:16:26.800 don't vote out of pity right you can't have someone who's pitiful running the free world to that point

01:16:31.820 um so i echo what my colleague said i think to add to that is the fact that um it's not just putin

01:16:38.760 who's rubbing his hands together i'm more worried about xi jinping if i were in taiwan right now i'd be

01:16:43.440 super nervous because um there's weakness in the white house and that you know that that weakness

01:16:51.140 is i i mean exploit it right while it's still there um so i think that this is setting setting

01:16:58.880 the dominoes up to fall in a really bad way unless the democrats change horses and unless they

01:17:03.400 succeed in winning the white house with someone who is a strong leader who can tackle the issues and

01:17:10.360 who can survive the next term i mean i think biden honestly in the last term basically killed him in

01:17:15.760 the sense of like physically it's draining look at obama looked even you know gray-haired and tired

01:17:19.880 when he left office and he was a young man um it is cruel to keep that man as the candidate is

01:17:26.040 absolutely cruel and it's it's it's putting everyone and democracy in peril quite frankly

01:17:31.600 as warren mentioned five weeks till uh uh that convention happening so we'll see if anything

01:17:36.520 happens between now and then but we'll leave it there for this morning uh carl belanger warren

01:17:40.240 kinsella tasha keratin thank you so much for your time i really appreciate it have a happy canada

01:17:44.260 day long weekend thanks guys bye as you heard president attraction strategies carl belanger

01:17:50.720 strategist post media columnist you can read his latest see the toronto set he is warren kinsella

01:17:54.700 and political columnist for the national post writer for g0 media and author tasha keratin

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01:18:21.140 Drank till I was thirsty again

01:18:23.860 We were searching

01:18:26.860 Through thrift store jungles

01:18:31.580 Found Geronimo's rifle

01:18:36.940 Marilyn's shampoo

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01:18:46.880 I promise you I'd never give up

01:18:51.580 If it makes you happy

01:18:54.280 It can't be that bad

01:18:59.780 If it makes you happy

01:19:03.760 Then why the hell are you so sad?

01:19:08.360 You get down

01:19:17.360 Real low down

01:19:21.660 You listen to cold rain

01:19:27.980 Derail your own train

01:19:30.180 Who hasn't been there before?

01:19:33.060 Go round

01:19:35.640 Round the hard way

01:19:40.720 Bring you comics in bed

01:19:45.720 Scrape the mold off the bread

01:19:48.060 Serve you bread's toast again

01:19:51.560 Oh okay

01:19:53.720 I still get stoned

01:19:56.120 I'm not the kind of girl you bring home

01:20:00.820 If it makes you happy

01:20:03.520 It can't be that bad

01:20:08.980 If it makes you happy

01:20:12.820 Then why the hell are you so sad?

01:20:17.900 If it makes you happy

01:20:19.900 If it makes you happy

01:20:20.900 If it makes you happy

01:20:21.900 It can't be that bad

01:20:24.900 If it makes you happy

01:20:26.900 If it makes you happy

01:20:28.900 If it makes you happy

01:20:30.900 Then why the hell are you so sad?

01:20:34.900 It's so sad

01:20:35.900 It's so sad

01:20:36.320 Been a long

01:20:44.900 One way from here

01:20:48.900 Put on a poncho plate for mosquitoes

01:20:56.900 Been everywhere in between

01:20:59.900 Okay, we get along

01:21:05.520 But what if everything was all wrong

01:21:10.260 If it makes you happy

01:21:12.740 It can't be that bad

01:21:18.000 If it makes you happy

01:21:22.240 Then why are you so sad

01:21:26.900 If it makes you happy

01:21:31.220 It can't be that bad

01:21:36.380 If it makes you happy

01:21:40.640 Then why the hell are you so sad

01:21:45.680 Why the hell are you so sad

01:21:56.900 Okay, it's voting day in Toronto St. Paul's

01:22:01.620 Carolyn Bennett has been the MP in that riding since 1997

01:22:05.520 She won nine elections

01:22:07.400 How long ago was 1997?

01:22:09.700 I know you're wondering over your cornflakes this morning

01:22:11.900 The five main leaders in that election

01:22:15.580 Jean Chrétien for the Liberals

01:22:17.580 Preston Manning for the Reform Party

01:22:20.020 That was a while ago

01:22:20.920 Gilles Duceppe for the Bloc

01:22:22.180 Alexa McDonough for the New Democrats

01:22:24.420 And Jean Chrétien raised the Progressive Conservatives

01:22:27.920 Back from two seats to 20 seats

01:22:30.320 Big bounce back from 1993

01:22:32.180 But what has changed is

01:22:34.580 This is now a very open riding

01:22:36.560 It is not going to be a Liberal blowout tonight

01:22:38.780 No matter what

01:22:39.520 Our next guest wrote an op-ed in the Toronto Sun

01:22:41.880 About said by-election

01:22:44.400 And the five reasons

01:22:47.120 Why it's time for Justin Trudeau to go

01:22:49.320 Perhaps regardless of tonight's result

01:22:51.360 He is Warren Kinsella

01:22:52.380 And he joins us now on Toronto Today

01:22:54.380 How about that 97 election, huh?

01:22:56.360 We all were a bit younger then

01:22:57.440 Yeah, I was a little active in that one

01:23:01.300 I confess

01:23:02.280 I bet, I bet

01:23:04.020 And for Carolyn Bennett

01:23:05.000 What a run

01:23:05.540 I mean, we've got to be honest

01:23:06.820 Nine straight elections

01:23:08.480 She, you know, kind of held that seat

01:23:11.020 Just to want to do it

01:23:12.340 And not, you know

01:23:13.940 I'm sure that she was tempted to do other things in life

01:23:16.200 Political or otherwise

01:23:17.200 But the whole same riding for 27 years

01:23:20.540 Most people have had enough after seven years, Warren

01:23:23.300 Yeah, but the

01:23:25.060 You know, that riding has always been what

01:23:27.740 People call a yellow dog riding

01:23:30.500 You could

01:23:31.140 The Liberals could run a yellow dog in it

01:23:33.200 And they would win

01:23:34.120 So it didn't really matter who your candidate was

01:23:36.800 Until today

01:23:38.100 Today's by-election

01:23:40.080 Is the first time

01:23:41.360 I've seen Liberals be nervous

01:23:43.360 About St. Paul's

01:23:44.760 Like if it's the end of the world, Greg

01:23:46.320 And God says, you know, to the Liberals

01:23:49.240 You're going to keep two seats

01:23:50.740 And they're going to wipe you out everywhere else

01:23:52.120 One is in Montreal, Mount Royal

01:23:53.940 And the other is St. Paul's

01:23:55.060 It is incredible that St. Paul's

01:23:57.600 Is actually in play today

01:23:59.220 Yeah, because even some ridings in the city

01:24:01.520 As you document

01:24:02.380 There's at times an NDP threat

01:24:04.800 And maybe the coin that it flips between

01:24:06.940 Is Liberal seat, NDP seat

01:24:08.900 Was never going to be a Conservative seat

01:24:10.720 But the NDP have really never been in play here

01:24:13.220 The Conservatives have never been in play

01:24:14.920 Their candidate is Don Stewart

01:24:16.800 The CPC

01:24:18.240 The Liberals is Leslie Church

01:24:20.460 And she's most recently been Chief of Staff

01:24:22.580 To Chrystia Freeland

01:24:23.960 Does this look like a coin flip to you?

01:24:26.740 Does this look like a very soft Liberal hold?

01:24:30.100 Yeah, I think the Liberals

01:24:31.460 At the end of the day

01:24:32.180 Are going to hold on to it

01:24:33.240 Because, you know, most people

01:24:34.220 At the end of the day

01:24:35.160 Don't vote for the candidate

01:24:37.040 You know, they don't

01:24:37.900 I've known Leslie Church for many years

01:24:39.880 I think her attachment to the riding is

01:24:42.700 You know, she would drive through it

01:24:44.320 On the way to Pearson

01:24:45.160 She's not from the riding

01:24:47.620 She doesn't know the riding

01:24:49.060 So, but it really doesn't matter

01:24:51.700 I think that, you know

01:24:53.240 People vote according to the party brand

01:24:55.200 And the brand, as I've indicated

01:24:57.220 Is pretty strong

01:24:58.400 The Liberal brand's pretty strong

01:24:59.840 In St. Paul's

01:25:00.680 But the Tory candidate is

01:25:02.480 You know, he's put on a good show

01:25:03.860 He's worked really hard

01:25:05.160 They've done some innovative campaigning things

01:25:07.400 And Greg, at the end of the day

01:25:08.560 I don't think the Tories

01:25:09.860 See it as a big loss

01:25:11.500 Is if they lose

01:25:12.480 Like, if they lose

01:25:13.960 Narrowly

01:25:15.100 That's a win for them

01:25:16.180 Because they've come close

01:25:17.160 To the Liberal stronghold

01:25:18.340 But also, they get to keep

01:25:19.880 A hold on their main asset

01:25:21.980 Their main asset

01:25:22.800 Is Justin Trudeau

01:25:24.000 Their whole campaign

01:25:25.140 At this point

01:25:25.780 Is just opposing Justin Trudeau

01:25:27.220 They don't want him to go

01:25:28.340 It's an interesting one

01:25:29.740 Warren

01:25:29.960 If you ran

01:25:30.660 Where you lived

01:25:31.660 As a, you know

01:25:32.860 Bright-eyed and bushy-tailed

01:25:34.300 Liberal MP

01:25:34.920 Or if I ran

01:25:35.740 Where I live

01:25:36.900 In Ajax

01:25:38.080 And someone said

01:25:38.740 Would you like

01:25:39.700 Christopher Freeland

01:25:40.940 To come door-knocking with you?

01:25:42.620 You know where I'm going with this

01:25:43.940 I don't necessarily

01:25:44.940 View it as a positive

01:25:47.340 At this particular point

01:25:48.600 Right now

01:25:49.100 But Church probably had no choice

01:25:50.520 Given the closeness of the two

01:25:51.740 Yeah

01:25:52.800 And Trudeau showing up as well

01:25:54.540 Yeah

01:25:54.780 They're all too close

01:25:55.640 To the blast radius

01:25:56.660 You know

01:25:57.100 And this is why

01:25:57.720 In the column I wrote

01:25:58.740 For the Sun

01:26:00.340 Is that Trudeau has to go

01:26:02.260 And he's smart enough

01:26:03.220 To know that he has to go

01:26:04.660 Because he's pulling

01:26:05.720 Everybody down

01:26:06.700 Everybody's being pulled down

01:26:08.460 With him

01:26:09.080 Including Leslie Church

01:26:10.640 Like we would not be

01:26:11.660 Having this conversation

01:26:12.860 Were it not for the fact

01:26:14.560 That Justin Trudeau

01:26:15.460 Still leads

01:26:16.320 The Liberal Party of Canada

01:26:17.840 After more than 10 years

01:26:19.400 But he just can't take a hint

01:26:21.220 You know

01:26:21.520 He can't leave

01:26:22.400 And so the Liberals

01:26:24.200 Are tanking everywhere

01:26:25.240 And he's hurting

01:26:25.820 Provincial Liberal Parties too

01:26:27.420 He sure is

01:26:28.280 Provincial Liberals

01:26:28.860 Are in considerable difficulty

01:26:31.540 Because people think

01:26:32.680 That Justin Trudeau

01:26:33.460 Somehow connected to them

01:26:34.680 So what's a timeline

01:26:35.980 Even if it's a soft

01:26:37.360 Liberal win

01:26:38.100 Do you see an announcement

01:26:39.340 Before

01:26:40.220 We all agree

01:26:41.360 There just isn't

01:26:42.140 Going to be an election

01:26:42.840 No matter how much

01:26:44.060 Our friend Alex Pearson

01:26:44.940 Wants one

01:26:45.400 There isn't going to be one

01:26:46.960 In the next 16 months

01:26:48.020 I've been telling her

01:26:48.680 That for years

01:26:49.200 It's not coming this year

01:26:50.120 It's not coming this year

01:26:50.980 But what's a timeline

01:26:53.040 For Justin Trudeau

01:26:54.560 To walk away

01:26:55.760 And how much

01:26:56.620 Does that set up

01:26:57.440 The next potential leader

01:26:58.640 A Mark Carney

01:26:59.340 A Sean Fraser

01:26:59.980 Whomever

01:27:00.480 For they're in the

01:27:01.820 Blast radius in October

01:27:03.040 No matter what

01:27:03.660 Anyway

01:27:03.980 Next year

01:27:04.460 Aren't they

01:27:04.800 Yeah they are

01:27:06.360 And I

01:27:06.820 You know

01:27:07.300 It's going to be

01:27:08.340 A change election

01:27:09.300 People are not

01:27:10.660 The governments

01:27:11.200 Defeat themselves

01:27:12.120 People are not

01:27:13.060 Voting for Pierre

01:27:13.980 Polyev

01:27:14.760 They're voting

01:27:15.660 Against Justin Trudeau

01:27:17.500 So

01:27:18.320 But even if he leaves

01:27:19.880 And I predicted

01:27:20.600 He would leave by now

01:27:21.880 But I still believe

01:27:22.960 That he's going to leave

01:27:23.820 Because you know

01:27:24.460 You don't get to be

01:27:25.180 Prime Minister

01:27:25.720 By being a dummy

01:27:26.760 He can read a poll

01:27:28.040 Like the next guy

01:27:29.500 And see that

01:27:30.380 The Liberal Party

01:27:31.020 Of Canada

01:27:31.620 Has been

01:27:32.560 As much as

01:27:33.440 21 points

01:27:34.580 Behind the Tories

01:27:35.500 For more than a year

01:27:36.580 Like that's

01:27:37.580 Just a death sentence

01:27:38.620 So he knows that

01:27:40.040 And he doesn't want

01:27:40.760 To wear that

01:27:41.420 And so I think

01:27:42.340 He is going to leave

01:27:43.060 It's just a question of when

01:27:44.140 The problem is

01:27:45.360 He needs to give

01:27:46.240 His successor

01:27:46.940 If he cares at all

01:27:48.080 About the Liberal Party

01:27:49.040 Of Canada

01:27:49.620 Which is an open question

01:27:51.100 He needs to give

01:27:52.200 His successor time

01:27:53.480 To get known

01:27:54.720 And rehabilitate the brand

01:27:56.300 He can't do

01:27:57.500 What Mulroney did

01:27:58.380 To Kim Campbell

01:27:59.260 Or what Pierre Trudeau

01:28:00.960 Did to John Turner

01:28:01.960 Right

01:28:02.480 You know

01:28:02.840 They were both

01:28:03.640 Prime Minister

01:28:04.140 For about 10 minutes

01:28:05.320 So in this case

01:28:06.840 You know

01:28:07.060 You need to give

01:28:07.700 Your successor time

01:28:08.720 To get accustomed

01:28:10.340 And get known

01:28:11.220 But you know

01:28:12.380 I just

01:28:12.620 So hang

01:28:12.940 Hanging in there

01:28:13.620 Until next March

01:28:14.320 Or April

01:28:14.740 It's like Lucy

01:28:15.480 Pulling the football

01:28:16.160 Out of the way

01:28:16.740 Of Charlie Brown

01:28:17.560 You've really set

01:28:19.200 Your successor up

01:28:20.880 For a pounding

01:28:22.180 In the fall of 25

01:28:24.000 Yeah

01:28:24.960 It's like sitting

01:28:25.700 On the deck

01:28:26.140 Of the Titanic

01:28:26.880 And saying

01:28:27.380 Oh I think

01:28:27.960 It's just a

01:28:28.640 You know

01:28:29.060 A small weather system

01:28:30.780 We're going to be okay

01:28:31.660 Everybody

01:28:32.100 You just can't do that

01:28:33.480 And you know

01:28:34.860 He's not giving

01:28:35.500 Any indication

01:28:36.380 He'll go

01:28:36.760 However

01:28:37.280 In fairness to him

01:28:38.140 He can't say

01:28:39.120 Hey I'm thinking

01:28:39.640 About leaving

01:28:40.280 Because at that point

01:28:41.440 His authority leaves

01:28:42.500 He's no longer

01:28:43.200 Prime Minister

01:28:43.780 So we'll all find out

01:28:45.260 At the last minute

01:28:46.100 You know

01:28:46.520 He'll tell his staff

01:28:47.760 That morning

01:28:48.700 And then he'll walk

01:28:49.400 Over to the press theater

01:28:50.280 And that'll be it

01:28:51.320 Well that's

01:28:51.680 Kathleen Wynne's move

01:28:53.340 In 2018

01:28:54.040 A week and a half

01:28:54.780 Before we vote

01:28:55.300 Hey everybody

01:28:55.820 We're not going to win

01:28:56.680 And the candidates

01:28:57.480 Are like

01:28:57.880 Thanks for that

01:28:58.880 We really appreciate

01:29:00.520 Really appreciate you

01:29:02.240 Pulling the drain

01:29:03.680 Out of the tub

01:29:04.280 Thanks very much

01:29:05.200 That was one of

01:29:06.700 One of the worst

01:29:07.620 Campaign moves

01:29:08.400 I've ever seen

01:29:09.180 Yeah

01:29:10.080 Warren I got a blast

01:29:11.340 And leave it there

01:29:12.100 I know we wanted

01:29:12.580 To get to some other stuff

01:29:13.320 But maybe later in the week

01:29:14.160 We can find time

01:29:15.340 I appreciate it

01:29:16.060 Thanks my friend

01:29:17.220 I am just

01:29:19.760 Another fool

01:29:22.240 And I have to

01:29:25.740 Keep telling

01:29:28.600 Myself that

01:29:31.560 I am just

01:29:33.380 A hypocrite

01:29:36.020 And I have to

01:29:39.460 Keep calling

01:29:42.420 You one

01:29:44.860 Cause I forgot

01:29:48.380 To bat my tongue

01:29:50.600 And my assumption

01:29:53.040 It is the mother

01:29:56.080 Of all mistakes

01:29:59.200 But I assume

01:30:02.360 The role

01:30:03.460 Opened my mouth

01:30:07.020 And clumsy words

01:30:11.440 Escape

01:30:12.780 So I

01:30:14.900 Wanna be there

01:30:19.080 When you could be here

01:30:22.520 You are slipping away

01:30:26.400 I awake

01:30:28.220 To your replacement

01:30:30.860 A bottle in my mouth

01:30:34.320 In an unfamiliar place

01:30:40.180 Cause you put me out

01:30:42.760 The butt of a sick joke

01:30:46.320 Into this ashtray life

01:30:49.880 As you come and go

01:30:53.260 Cause I forgot

01:30:56.900 To service you

01:30:59.260 And we broke down

01:31:02.000 And you can't live

01:31:04.540 With my mistakes

01:31:07.700 But I assumed

01:31:10.860 But I assumed false grace

01:31:12.120 Opened my arms

01:31:15.640 And grasped for something true

01:31:21.360 How are you?

01:31:24.140 How have you been?

01:31:28.140 Girl I miss you

01:31:31.140 When I see you again

01:31:35.100 Oh wire

01:31:37.300 Wanna be there

01:31:41.360 When you could be here

01:31:44.860 You are slipping away

01:31:48.860 You are going to be there

01:31:53.540 You are going to be there

01:31:53.680 Come and go

01:31:54.540 Please

01:31:54.980 misunderstand me

01:31:56.160 Come and press

01:31:56.840 Let me

01:31:57.880 I wanna

01:31:58.740 Be there

01:31:59.100 You are going to be there

01:32:00.600 You are going to be there

01:32:01.780 For what you mean

01:32:02.940 You are going to be there

01:32:04.700 So I

01:32:05.360 Love you

01:32:06.120 I love you

01:32:07.240 You am

01:32:08.240 It

01:32:08.700 You are going to be there

01:32:10.100 You are going touem

01:32:10.700 You are going to be there

01:32:12.240 Heaven

01:32:12.640 May

01:32:13.300 May

01:32:14.380 You are going to be

01:32:14.960 And hear

01:32:17.720 I bring out the worst in you, and you try to let me know.

01:32:33.920 You bring out the worst in me, anxiety, anxiety.

01:32:47.520 I'm trying hard to let you go, but you say I'm giving you the creeps, but I assume the role, open my claws, and grasp for your heart.

01:33:14.320 How are you? How have you been? Will I miss you? Won't I kill you again? Into you.

01:33:30.320 Like a moral stake, so vindictive. You're not slipping away.

01:33:42.320 Let me know.

01:33:47.320 You

kinsellacast - June 30, 2024

KINSELLACAST 317： A bad week for Joe and Justin, with Adler, Lilley, Kheiriddin, Brady, Belanger - plus Wilderado, Graduating Life, Hot Water Music, Michael Cera Palin, Joey Cape & Tony Sly

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