kinsellacast - August 11, 2024


KINSELLACAST 323： The Festival of Joy is here! With Adler, Lilley, Belanger, Kheiriddin and more! Plus Pink Spiders, Dave Hause, Nothington, Face to Face


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

162.68526

Word Count

10,381

Sentence Count

454

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It's the Kinsella Cast, starring Warren Kinsella.
00:00:13.960 Hey, it's Warren. Welcome to the Festival of Joy.
00:00:19.360 This is the culmination of the two-week-long celebration of the birth of Warren Chum.
00:00:25.100 I'm older. I'm not going to tell you how much older I am, because I don't want to get bored.
00:00:29.360 I have things to do. I was talking to my cousins about that.
00:00:33.940 They're all in the next room, being quiet, so I can do the introduction for you.
00:00:38.620 And we just had an awesome weekend.
00:00:43.080 Five of them were here.
00:00:45.800 And we talked about parents and grandparents and lives.
00:00:51.020 And it was just great.
00:00:52.420 And I'm so grateful that I've stayed in touch with them, and they've stayed in touch with me.
00:01:00.460 And so we make this kind of a regular thing.
00:01:04.300 Not necessarily birthday-related, but we get together, and it's great.
00:01:09.720 Jonathan was here, too.
00:01:12.820 Not quite sure how that happened.
00:01:16.740 I think he came in with the newspaper and never left, but he was here and added some laughs.
00:01:24.920 He definitely was the target of several of my cousins.
00:01:27.540 And he was here, too.
00:01:29.420 And we had a great dinner last night that she prepared at her rural home-based business.
00:01:38.240 And it was great.
00:01:40.540 Just amazing.
00:01:42.100 And so very grateful to that.
00:01:44.220 And then I got a gift from my editors, Adrian Batron, Jonathan Kingston, in the support of Brian Lilly and others, Chris Doucette, a piece I've been working on for months with the help of a lot of great people who cannot be named.
00:02:04.980 Basically, it's about these pro-Palestinian charities.
00:02:08.280 And it's great to be pro-Palestinian and to be a charity, but some of them are sending money to some pretty shady characters in the Middle East, some dangerous people.
00:02:18.640 So that story is on the front page in The Sun and will be across the country in post-media today.
00:02:26.140 And so Adrian and Jonathan and Brian and Chris helped me shepherd that through.
00:02:33.340 Laurie Goldstein as well.
00:02:35.120 And so I'm pretty proud of that.
00:02:36.320 It was great to write news again.
00:02:38.720 So that was another, I guess, a little birthday present to myself.
00:02:42.680 So I encourage you to read that and let me know what you think.
00:02:47.840 And yeah, so we're going to go to Bloomfield after I do this introduction and do the podcast earlier.
00:02:55.380 I don't have John Mraz on this week because I couldn't connect with him at the right time, but we will next week.
00:03:01.880 And I'm off to the States after that to work for Miss Harris.
00:03:07.360 And so that's going to be a lot of fun.
00:03:10.080 And anyway, yeah, summertime.
00:03:11.740 Although you can feel the little taste of the fall in the air, can't you?
00:03:15.720 Certainly this morning you can.
00:03:16.980 So I'm not going to do some big soliloquy, no monologue start, but I do have Brian on the show.
00:03:25.960 Got Charles Adler on the show, wishing me a happy birthday.
00:03:29.440 Got Tasha Carradine, Carl Belanger, Andrew Pinson, and some great music.
00:03:34.460 Pink Spiders with a tune, little razor blade.
00:03:38.280 It is catchier than a drawer full of fishhooks, as I like to say.
00:03:43.920 Loved ones, Dave Howes, just this amazing artist, punk rocker.
00:03:48.940 One of my good friends, Michaela Bentley, her son plays with Dave Howes on tour.
00:03:55.260 Nothington, who, in my opinion, do social distortion better than social distortion does.
00:04:03.360 And I like social distortion a lot.
00:04:05.160 And some other stuff for you, so hopefully you'll enjoy that.
00:04:09.800 So, yeah, so here we go.
00:04:12.200 Here comes the Pink Spiders.
00:04:13.740 Have a great day, great week.
00:04:16.520 Don't become a statistic.
00:04:18.680 And I'm off to celebrate some more the birth of the Warren child with my cousins.
00:04:35.160 Hey, hey, little razor blade.
00:04:43.360 Girl, you're so, so dangerous.
00:04:48.140 You say you want to try and get away.
00:04:51.640 And that's just so obvious.
00:04:54.200 I got the keys, so let's put it in the drive.
00:05:00.560 Hey, hey, little razor blade.
00:05:19.940 Girl, you're so, so serious.
00:05:22.660 You're only pretty when you walk away.
00:05:27.860 And you're actively oblivious.
00:05:32.620 I got the keys, so let's put it in the drive.
00:05:37.480 Don't call it a crush.
00:05:41.340 Don't call it a crush.
00:05:43.620 Baby, you know I love you too.
00:05:47.160 My hurts to be crushed like that.
00:05:51.260 To be crushed like that.
00:05:53.900 Give back my heart tonight.
00:06:13.140 I'm sick of never smiling because you're so untied.
00:06:17.860 Because we know it's not alright.
00:06:21.340 When neither one of us is pulling up a fight.
00:06:25.300 And you're like, that's your home.
00:06:29.580 You've been a night alone.
00:06:33.640 You stand on your shoulders out of dreading water.
00:06:37.580 Wave and dancing like a stone.
00:06:51.340 Hey, hey, little razor blade.
00:07:01.840 Girl, you're so, so obnoxious.
00:07:06.420 This lucky dream is now reality.
00:07:09.300 And it makes me so anxious.
00:07:14.580 Hey, hey, little razor blade.
00:07:17.780 Girl, you're so, so dangerous.
00:07:22.700 You say you want to try to get away.
00:07:26.220 And that's just so obvious.
00:07:30.540 I got the keys, so let's put it in the drive.
00:07:34.580 You say you want to try to get away.
00:07:38.540 You say you want to try to get away.
00:07:39.620 But don't call it a crush.
00:07:40.580 Don't call it a crush.
00:07:41.580 Don't call it a crush.
00:07:42.580 Don't call it a crush.
00:07:43.580 Baby, you know I love you too much.
00:07:45.660 To be crushed like that.
00:07:46.580 you too much to be crushed like that. Don't call it a crush. Baby, you know I love you too much to be
00:08:04.360 crushed like that. This is CFRA Live, Sunday Political Panel.
00:08:34.360 And welcome to it. Joining us this morning on the phone is Warren Contella. He is a strategist
00:08:40.080 and post-media columnist. You can read his latest in the Toronto Sun. Good morning, Warren. Thanks
00:08:43.880 for joining us. Morning, sir. Happy Sunday to Tasha Carradine, political columnist for the
00:08:47.900 National Post and author and writer for GZero Media. Thanks for joining us, Tasha. Hello. And
00:08:53.140 Carl Belanger also here. He is the president at Traction Strategies. Happy Sunday, Carl. Thanks
00:08:57.520 for joining us. Morning, folks. You know, a little bit more interesting in terms of summer political
00:09:02.320 news this week on this side of the border. So that's some good news, but obviously some rough
00:09:06.480 news on this side in terms of the emergency hearings that we have being seen called. Canada's public
00:09:11.240 safety minister says the federal government internally reviewing the immigration and security
00:09:15.060 screening of a father and son that the RCMP recently charged in connection to an alleged
00:09:19.640 foil Toronto terror plot. In terms of where we go from here, Warren, the Conservatives were calling
00:09:24.840 for this, but it does seem like a no-brainer in figuring out how these two were able to get
00:09:28.540 into the country. Yeah, I don't understand why we don't know when exactly they they came into the
00:09:35.280 country. Did that happen in the Trudeau era or before that? So we need to know that to figure out where
00:09:43.460 criticism should be applied, because there should be some criticism. The father is alleged, alleged
00:09:50.940 to have participated in an ISIS video where a man was hanging from a pole in the desert wearing an
00:09:58.540 orange pantsuit getting his limbs hacked off. And obviously, you know, it's an allegation, but
00:10:06.760 that, you know, whoever did that, that's not a desirable person for Canada. But, you know, across the
00:10:13.160 board, we've got problems. I've got a story in the post media and in the Sun papers this morning about
00:10:20.380 a number of pro-Palestinian charities receiving money here that's being transferred to
00:10:28.520 extremist and possibly terrorist organizations abroad. So, like, it just, it feels like this
00:10:35.380 government over the past decade has dropped the ball on these types of issues. And that's not good
00:10:41.680 because it makes us all less safe. And just your point on the ISIS kind of connection there, Global
00:10:47.060 News did report that last week. CTV hasn't verified it or CFRA hasn't verified it, but that is what's out
00:10:52.380 there right now. And it has kind of prompted this discussion. Dominic LeBlanc, obviously pretty tight-lipped
00:10:57.100 on this, saying the work is ongoing to figure out what exactly happened here. But, but Tasha, I think
00:11:01.460 Canadians probably deserve answers, no? Well, a hundred percent. And if, if, if this, this fellow
00:11:07.860 was not caught, then the question is how many other people got in? That's really, I think, what's in
00:11:13.500 people's minds, too. And the only reason he did not pretend is because he decided to instigate a terror
00:11:18.780 plot, kill people. So, you know, there could be other, a lot of other people. And I wrote about this as well,
00:11:25.620 because to me, it really is, it's a numbers game. I mean, the government is letting in upwards of a
00:11:30.300 million people every year to the country. We have percent of our population now as temporary
00:11:37.180 residents, non-permanent residents. And while it's great to have immigration to Canada, we need to have
00:11:42.760 managed immigration to Canada. This has been the success of our country. We have a point system that
00:11:47.320 is supposed to address labor needs. Instead, we see that people have a percent unemployment rate among
00:11:53.360 non-permanent residents in Canada. People are coming into this country with the hope of staying,
00:11:58.220 whether it's as a refugee, whether it's as a student, whether it's on a work visa. And we're
00:12:03.400 letting them in on the premise that they, you know, potentially build a life here. They choose to
00:12:07.560 stay. And the reality is very different. We have a housing crisis. So the government failed everywhere.
00:12:13.680 This is the worst. People could have died because of this, but there's a general failure across the
00:12:18.820 board because the government has just let in, quite frankly, too big country to handle in too
00:12:24.740 short a span of time. And Carl, you know, these, these hearings, hopefully, hopefully going to get
00:12:29.580 to the bottom of this in any way, shape or in some way, shape or form. But is this just on the
00:12:34.140 surface, does this look like a failure in some way, shape or form for, you know, Canada's security
00:12:38.140 apparatus? I suppose you could say so at the same time. What are we expecting? That there's some
00:12:45.720 kind of gigantic database where the agents will review every single video that may or may not
00:12:50.480 exist about an individual? Like it's a very difficult matter. So how do you handle it? I'm not sure. And
00:12:58.260 I'm looking forward to see what we will uncover about the hearings and the type of investigation that
00:13:02.780 they're doing on people coming in. But I suspect it's not very much. I suspect it's, you know,
00:13:09.080 they have a list of people. And if you're not on that list somehow, you'll get through. And that's
00:13:15.320 what my hypothesis right now. We'll see how it unfolds. But clearly, it's a problem. How we fix it,
00:13:22.440 though, I don't think is easy. Yeah, no doubt. And we'll see if the RCMP has anything more to add to
00:13:27.500 this whole conversation and story in the coming days as well. Another story making the rounds this week.
00:13:32.360 I thought it was interesting because, you know, I think Pierre Polyev often gets criticized for not
00:13:36.260 having substantive policy decisions, positions, I should say. But I don't think that's always
00:13:41.340 necessarily true on certain particular things. But he did drop one this week on tariffs and Chinese
00:13:47.340 tariffs in particular. And it does appear the liberals are paying attention. They're saying,
00:13:50.500 stay tuned on this. I guess, Tasha, is this kind of a winning strategy for Pierre Polyev in terms of
00:13:55.980 just sticking to the policies? It's the economy, stupid. Well, I think absolutely. I mean, look,
00:14:01.680 Polyev is doubling down on the labor vote, on the union vote. And this is part of that, too,
00:14:07.960 is saying that, you know, unionized jobs are going to be on the line, basically auto worker jobs.
00:14:12.740 And that's consistent with his previous message. But I think there's also a larger issue here
00:14:17.300 that we have to stay in lockstep with our partners in the sense of Kuzma, the U.S. and Mexico.
00:14:24.160 They're both putting in tariffs because they also see the threat to their workers. The U.S. is an
00:14:30.440 election year. Mexico is not. But the threat is the same. And so I think that it actually makes
00:14:36.000 perfect sense. And besides the fact that China is doing this deliberately to flood the market,
00:14:41.080 not to save the planet and give everyone cheap EVs, they have other designs, as we know. And their
00:14:46.820 interests are not aligned with Western interests. So there's a host of reasons to do this.
00:14:51.180 And I think that he's right on the money. And the government should be doing this,
00:14:55.560 because that is what our, like I said, our main economic partners are doing as well.
00:14:59.140 You know, Carl, I was looking at this and I was thinking, this is exactly what Stephen Harper
00:15:02.460 would do in many senses. And just hitting the policy economic part on the head here,
00:15:07.300 I guess, is this what, you know, Pierre needs to keep doing in order to be successful here?
00:15:12.920 Yeah, I mean, you're right. It's probably exactly what Harper would have done.
00:15:17.780 And the thing that gets me and the thing that I've always said when it comes to China is that
00:15:23.640 you can't act alone. You really need to do this in coordination with other allies,
00:15:29.360 because if you don't, then you're not really achieving your goal in terms of foreign policy.
00:15:37.240 So if you are to tackle China, you need to coordinate it. So if you follow suit with what
00:15:41.420 the United States are doing, I think it's a good thing. But you need to be very certain of where
00:15:46.240 your head is, because it's going to create a lot of tension for sure. And we've seen China in action
00:15:53.040 in the past few years, decades. They do not mind meddling. They do not mind interfering.
00:16:01.320 And they'll keep doing it, then they may increase their pay. So we got to be prepared for that.
00:16:05.500 Yeah, even at a perceived slight, in some cases as well. When we're talking about the idea of,
00:16:12.640 I guess, sticking on the economy, Warren, is this the bread and butter that Pierre Polio should be
00:16:16.960 sticking to? It appears the Liberals are at least watching.
00:16:20.000 I know it's been working for him. He actually, if you pay attention to what he does, he doesn't
00:16:25.180 spend a lot of time on the scandal stuff. He leaves that to the members of his so-called shadow
00:16:31.060 cabinet. And he's Mr. Pocketbook. And on this issue, he's right. And to Carl's point,
00:16:38.840 he's actually just following in the footsteps of our allies, the United States of America. In May,
00:16:45.740 President Biden said on this issue, these Chinese EVs that they intend to dump here, want to dump here,
00:16:54.980 the Americans that they're going to slap 100%, 100% tariff rate on EVs from China because it's an
00:17:03.980 unfair trade practice. And, you know, some might say he did that at the behest of the UAW or what
00:17:11.340 have you. It doesn't matter. It is the right decision. And right now, the tariff they've got is 25%.
00:17:19.200 They're going to move it to 100% if China goes ahead with this. And the Americans have no choice.
00:17:25.120 And, you know, as an auto manufacturer, we don't either. So, yeah, I think this is one of those happy
00:17:31.020 rare instances where the opposition and the government are making the right noises.
00:17:35.920 And on the seemingly same page, I guess I'll just follow up with you, Warren, on the next story,
00:17:40.080 because it is about Parapolio as well. And I'm not sure what to make of this. We are seeing this
00:17:43.900 online bot campaign. It's not really new when it comes to social media. But there's questions here about
00:17:48.820 whether this, you know, online campaign was backing Pierre Polyev, the NDP is calling for
00:17:53.080 a probe by the election commissioner here. What do you make of this whole situation? Is this much
00:17:57.520 ado about nothing? Or do you think there's something more there?
00:18:00.480 I don't know. I looked at it and I had that very same question. Like on the one hand, like all of us
00:18:07.180 are active online, okay? And, you know, for example, let me give you a shocking example. You can post
00:18:14.180 an obituary about a family member who's passed away these days, like you as a person. And bots will
00:18:22.420 actually take it and manipulate it and make use of it to attract people to advertising. Because they
00:18:30.600 know that people go online when they hear about somebody passing away, and they Google it. And
00:18:35.780 instead of finding the official obituary, they find something else. Like that's how a bot functions
00:18:41.320 is as well. Like there's a prodigious business taking place with that stuff. And all of us have
00:18:47.720 written and put things online as journalists or commentators. And, you know, we go online to see
00:18:54.740 how it's doing. And you find out it's in, you know, somebody in a boiler room in St. Petersburg has
00:19:01.500 taken part of it to get it out there. So I have some sympathy for the conservatives on this one.
00:19:07.060 Because these days, you can put stuff out there, and it can be grabbed by some guy or bad guy. And
00:19:14.440 you have no control over it. And that seems to be what the conservatives are saying here.
00:19:19.460 Yeah, I did get that kind of sense as well, where I it's just it's hard to differentiate between what's
00:19:24.440 what's normal, quote unquote, on social media, and if there's kind of a concerted campaign, but
00:19:29.000 obviously, anybody has the ability to kind of pick up and some of these themes. I guess, Carl,
00:19:33.400 what do you what have you read of this situation? Well, I mean, yeah, it could be anybody. It's
00:19:38.720 true. I don't think it's the conservative party's headquarters behind it. But it could be some kind
00:19:42.840 of conservative sympathizer somewhere doing it. But it could also be foreign agents doing it for
00:19:51.340 their own reasons. And we've seen them in action in the past. I mean, that's part of the old
00:19:55.880 political interference story that we've been talking. These troll farms in Russia, in China,
00:19:59.680 elsewhere, who are meddling and are, you know, popping up supporting a candidate for their
00:20:05.060 own political reason. Why are they doing this for Pierre Poirier? Well, that's a very good
00:20:09.500 question. And I think people should wonder why they're doing it in favor of Pierre Poirier.
00:20:15.560 Tasha, have you lost much sleep over the bots?
00:20:18.600 No, I haven't lost sleep over the bots. You know, I saw this and to Warren's point, my first
00:20:23.120 thought was, this is probably a conservative, this is someone making money off the situation.
00:20:29.400 Because the conservatives wouldn't do it this legally, I don't think, if they were hiring
00:20:32.940 a lot. It's not that they maybe haven't. And maybe all political parties do. I'm not going
00:20:38.480 to, you know, speculate further. But I just think this was not an example of something they
00:20:42.940 would have done. And when somebody dredged up then a similar situation with the liberals
00:20:47.600 and put online a bunch of tweets that were coming from places about, you know, I think
00:20:52.700 it was Justin Trudeau. And they were also, obviously, not from people in Canada doing
00:20:58.800 this. So I think that it is the problem with the internet and with this kind of stuff is
00:21:04.100 that monetization is very tempting. So people can find a way to monetize anything, they will.
00:21:10.700 And if these bots were doing that, I don't know how they particularly would make money off
00:21:14.540 it, then, well, maybe that's what they were doing. Or it could have been another party.
00:21:19.700 I think that, you know, the allegations, oh, maybe the NDP did this. I don't know if
00:21:22.760 the NDP would do this either. But the point is, it could have been someone who was trying
00:21:26.160 to hurt the conservatives, make them look stupid. I don't know. The point is, we don't
00:21:30.020 know. We have no idea. So until someone really knows, we're just guessing.
00:21:34.260 To the point, there could even just not be political motives at play. It could be just to
00:21:37.520 make money, which is, you know, concerning as well. When we see what's happening in Southampton
00:21:41.100 in the UK as well, with some of the online misinformation that's going there. I wanted
00:21:45.220 to turn our attention to the US a little bit here before I let you guys go. Well, first,
00:21:49.140 Trump kind of weighing in again on Mr. Trudeau this week on the Prime Minister as well. And
00:21:53.920 you know, it's the same old greatest hits, right? He brought up the Fidel Castro conspiracy
00:21:58.440 theory, took aim at Trudeau. But I was just kind of thinking in this way, shape, and form,
00:22:02.300 Carl, does this kind of help Trudeau at this point? This is the card that he's been playing
00:22:05.380 against Poliev, right? Is that it's similar to Trump. Does this help him?
00:22:09.060 I suppose it kind of supports the narrative. Yes. I think it was funny that Trump could
00:22:14.900 not come up with a conservative that could help Canada in this interview. I don't know
00:22:20.660 if there's one. But yes, I think it does help Trudeau. But but you know, not in a major
00:22:28.120 fashion. I don't think a lot of people are surprised to hear Trump say those things about
00:22:32.740 Justin Trudeau. So it's not going to convince many voters that are on the on the fence that
00:22:39.200 oh, this is the reason why I should support Trudeau. But it will reinforce his overall
00:22:43.260 narrative about Poliev and the conservatives. I'm sure Fox News contributor Kevin O'Leary
00:22:47.860 was heartbroken that Trump couldn't think of a conservative guy off the top of his head.
00:22:52.340 But Tasha, what do you think of this year? Does this kind of play into that that narrative
00:22:55.980 that we've kind of heard from from the Trudeau campaign in general? Well, I mean, I think Trudeau
00:23:01.940 hoped that it would because it would make it seem that you know, Trump is that you don't want to
00:23:07.300 have Trump Trump north, so to speak, because Trump said, well, it'd be great if a conservative got
00:23:10.960 elected in the country. But I think at the end of the day, many people now I mean, the wheels are
00:23:16.620 kind of coming off the bus of the Trump campaign in many ways. So whatever Trump is saying, I think
00:23:22.140 people are taking perhaps less seriously. I think before when Biden was still the candidate,
00:23:27.300 there was a there was a legitimate fear based on the polls. The Trump presidency was inevitable,
00:23:31.820 right? And that that was something that Trudeau could have played and said, you know, you need a
00:23:35.740 foil in Canada for something like that. Don't elect the conservatives. But now it looks like,
00:23:41.900 you know, the Democrats are doing very well. So I think that that changes the dynamic, too. And
00:23:47.120 I don't know how Trudeau will play this. I think he's got more problems domestically,
00:23:51.240 quite frankly, than what Trump thinks about him.
00:23:53.740 It's very true. It's a very good point. And Carl, just when we're looking at this from a
00:23:57.840 perspective of just domestic politics, when we see, you know, an outsider like Trump,
00:24:01.680 an American kind of getting involved in Canadian politics, you know, does that play to Trudeau's
00:24:05.440 favor in many senses? And and to the same point about how he's been using the the Trump campaign
00:24:11.040 as a nemesis, really?
00:24:13.040 You're coming back to me or you want to go to Warren?
00:24:15.040 Oh, Warren. Sorry, I think I said Carl there. Yeah, sorry, Warren.
00:24:17.260 It's okay. I haven't get mistaken for Carl Belagian. I'm happy.
00:24:23.020 You've been called much worse.
00:24:24.940 I'm just so tired of Donald Trump. And, you know, the polls show increasingly a lot of Americans feel
00:24:32.940 the same way. Excuse me, as of last night, she's ahead and she's substantially ahead. Wisconsin,
00:24:39.580 Pennsylvania, Michigan. That means she's going to be the president of the United States. So look,
00:24:44.400 I'm just so fed up with this guy. Like, seriously, you're the son of a guy who got arrested at Ku Klux
00:24:49.780 Klan rally. And you're talking about Justin Trudeau's parentage? Like, really? Why does anybody
00:24:56.540 listen to you anymore? And P.S., Justin Trudeau's not on the ballot. Probably a good third of Americans
00:25:03.260 couldn't find Canada on a map. Like, how is this a useful strategy to him? But, you know, as Tasha
00:25:11.080 says, it shows he's just kind of floundering about trying to figure out what to do about the fact
00:25:16.560 that he's losing. She's about to go into her convention. She's going to get a bump out of
00:25:21.220 that. She's turned out to be a hell of a good campaigner. They're getting massive rallies.
00:25:26.460 They got money. They got more money than God. Like, he's losing. So I'm hopeful that this is
00:25:33.120 one of the few last stupid things we're going to hear from Donald Trump. But, you know,
00:25:38.360 I'm not holding my breath. Well, yeah, I was actually, I was going to ask about the VP
00:25:41.500 picks in general, Warren. Just to stick with you for a sec, because it does play into what
00:25:45.020 we're kind of talking about here. Obviously, Tim Waltz, Waltz was the pick from Minnesota
00:25:49.240 this week. We see the first poll yesterday, the Siena New York Times. Yeah, as you mentioned,
00:25:53.940 kind of putting them four points ahead in many of the swing states. So it's a big change from
00:25:57.920 before. Was this the right pick, do you think, in terms of a VP?
00:26:01.600 Yeah, sure. But it doesn't matter. You know, like, honestly, all that matters, your VP
00:26:06.360 pick is if they're a bad pick, like Sarah Palin was or Dan Quayle was, and they can pull
00:26:12.060 down the ticket. But they don't really lift it up. You know, people like us talk about
00:26:16.600 it for a few days ahead of time and a few days afterwards. And then, you know, the focus
00:26:20.900 is the main person on the ballot. The same thing up here. You know, it's the people aren't
00:26:26.220 voting for the Liberal government because of Christian Freeland. You know, it's Justin Trudeau
00:26:31.980 versus Pierre Polyev. And that's the way they look at politics is the party brand
00:26:36.460 and the party leader. So I don't think it matters that much. He wasn't my pick. I
00:26:42.040 like Kelly or Shapiro. Shapiro is just like the Pennsylvania Obama and Kelly is the
00:26:47.760 astronaut. But, you know, he's fine. He's doing a good job. He came up with this weird
00:26:52.540 appellation for the Trump guys. So, you know, he's OK. She he needed she needed a white
00:26:58.940 guy for middle America. And she's got the most middle America white guy you could
00:27:04.000 possibly get. Hit all the boxes. There's a couple of Jews from, actually, in fact,
00:27:08.060 too. But Tasha, on the VP pick, your thoughts on that and also just the kind of
00:27:12.780 change in the race that we have seen over the last week or so.
00:27:16.080 Well, I think the reason she didn't pick Shapiro in particular was because, yes, she
00:27:20.620 is more an Obama on the ticket. She wants to be the Obama on the ticket. The
00:27:25.000 energy I feel from Kamala Harris is very similar to the hope and opportunity agenda that Barack
00:27:32.160 Obama and the energy that he had. Very positive, very, very positive focus. And I think that
00:27:37.820 she wants, I mean, legitimately, she is the star. She is the star of the ticket. Tim
00:27:41.480 Waltz is, and it's really funny because McFord just hosted him a couple of months ago in
00:27:46.380 Ontario. They took the ball around the picture of the two men and they look like they could
00:27:50.440 be brothers, right? Yeah, yeah. That kind of, it's folksy. I was just going to say that
00:27:55.720 word, folksy. Yeah. Yeah, he's a folksy guy. And so he brings that element to the ticket.
00:28:01.300 But, you know, to Warren's point, is he going to lift up the ticket? No. Is he going to drag
00:28:05.220 it down? No. And when you've got, on the other side, you've got J.D. Vance causing all
00:28:09.920 sorts of problems for the Trump ticket. It's, it's, now you can, now you will compare both,
00:28:16.120 right? You're going to compare the VPs and the present. So I think she needed a very safe
00:28:19.360 and very smart choice in picking Tim Waltz. And Carl, just last thoughts to you on the
00:28:24.420 VP pick and just the, the kind of change in the dimensions of the race that we've seen
00:28:27.920 over the course of the past seven days. I mean, yeah, Warren and Tasha are right. It
00:28:32.160 doesn't matter as much as people think unless the campaign is brought down by, by that VP
00:28:36.660 pick. But he's taking a lot of boxes, you know, being a former teacher, a veteran to being
00:28:44.800 in the National Guard, middle-aged white man, a very comforting presence beyond Kamala Harris,
00:28:50.480 who's, you know, totally different from what we've seen before on the presidential ticket.
00:28:56.100 But, but really the, the, to change the trend, the Democrats really need something spectacular
00:29:02.980 and dramatic. And, and that's why that move worked. And that's why Kamala Harris, you know,
00:29:08.580 is, is now on fire right now and raising that much money and, and getting a big bump in the
00:29:15.640 polls and it'll keep going. I'm not sure the Republicans have an answer yet. And, and this
00:29:21.060 is interesting to me because for all the talk about the fact that, well, it's just too late
00:29:26.040 for Trudeau to go, it's too late for Trudeau to leave and be replaced by someone. Well, you
00:29:30.900 know, we just saw it happen in the, in the dying months of the presidential campaign. It's
00:29:35.880 happened. So it could happen here. And for those who think, well, but the liberals don't
00:29:39.600 have a Kamala Harris. Well, I don't think the Democrats thought they had a Kamala Harris
00:29:43.460 until she stepped up. I don't think anybody expected her to be this good, but she is.
00:29:48.900 And, and it's helping the Democrats a lot.
00:29:51.400 You know, it's a very good point. And I've thought about, you know, you know, Joe Biden
00:29:54.260 has been characterized as, you know, the brave decision to step away. And, you know, what
00:29:57.580 does that mean for, for the prime minister here in a very similar situation? But we'll leave
00:30:01.520 it there. Great chat, guys. Warren Kinsella, Tasha Carradine, Carl Belanger, thanks so much
00:30:05.300 for your time this morning. I really appreciate it.
00:30:07.400 Thank you.
00:30:07.740 Thank you, guys.
00:30:08.840 Bye.
00:30:09.380 Warren Kinsella is a strategist and post-media columnist. You can read his latest in the Toronto
00:30:12.620 Sun this morning. Tasha Carradine is a writer for GZERO Media, an author, the political columnist
00:30:16.600 for the National Post, and Carl Belanger is the president at Traction Strategy.
00:30:20.360 All alone again. He woke up screaming air. He needs more oxygen to breathe. Help him up. Hold him down.
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00:32:13.380 hello canada hello winnipeg hello manitoba we are here with charles adler my friend my mentor
00:32:31.700 my guide in life charles hello hello ontario and happy birthday to the brother of another mother
00:32:40.040 warren kinsella thank you brother i just i hate getting old i don't want to get gold i i got so
00:32:47.080 much stuff to do don't you you're that kind of guy too i think you got a birthday coming up i i don't
00:32:52.660 take it seriously my my your birthday is today you're we're doing this on august 11th and mine
00:32:57.820 is exactly two weeks from now august 25th because well frankly that's how the son of the lord wanted
00:33:02.500 i guess what else but uh but i uh i would love to say that uh i don't ever feel older than i used to
00:33:13.600 be there are some days where it's clear to me where there are things that go on in popular culture
00:33:20.800 uh for instance um the business of breakdancing being a metal sport
00:33:27.900 yeah i had the same reaction i'm not like i'm not angry about it i'm not you know i'm not one of
00:33:34.680 those aging boomers i'm not i'm not doing one of those it's just it just i just can't take it
00:33:41.060 seriously yeah to me the olympics is like throwing a rock throwing a javelin running fast jumping that's
00:33:48.100 it right all this other stuff breakdancing it's like what badminton i mean i you can be like 600
00:33:54.380 pounds and smoke can play badminton maybe you can't i can offer one more complaint about the
00:33:59.080 olympics i think the pole vaulter who had the pole get in the way of the medal i think they should
00:34:06.760 have given him a medal because i've never seen anything like that that performance has got to be
00:34:12.040 reviewed for thousands of years and if a guy can pull that off he ought to be a medalist
00:34:19.080 the pole vaulter i watched was the norwegian one and i don't think she did well and nobody cares
00:34:25.240 she was the most beautiful woman who's ever lived but did you see the one i'm talking about did you
00:34:31.180 see that no i didn't see it no i just i i can't remember what country it was from because i don't
00:34:36.540 want to pretend that i'm a big fan of the olympics i watched the uh winter olympics because i guess i'm
00:34:40.520 traditional canada to me is still you know it's skating it's it's hockey it's curling it's bobsledding
00:34:45.260 it's all that anyway i i do i do watch some of the the highlights and i don't know what country
00:34:50.360 he was from he wasn't he was not a canadian but he was i'll just say you know a well-built guy
00:34:55.620 and uh the swan hit the bar and that's that got in the way of the medal all right here comes the
00:35:03.480 segue you ready we need to segue at this point because i've taken it right to the dumpsters
00:35:10.520 here comes the segue so charles adler we've talked about the olympics how about the olympics
00:35:17.000 in the united states who's winning the medal down there
00:35:19.380 that's a trick question isn't it
00:35:25.220 you're a media person you're a media person you know you're tricking me uh i i don't know i just
00:35:32.260 know that uh when it comes to the olympics uh it's easy to bet on the united states i'll use the
00:35:37.340 expression warren buffett uses all the time about investments never bet okay in the case of the
00:35:42.460 olympics never bet against the united states although in in track yesterday uh the american
00:35:50.000 did not take the canadian team seriously and the canadian track team oh that was that was glorious
00:35:55.060 that was glorious yeah no it's um you know we had some good money we hit we hit the metal hall i guess
00:36:02.960 i mean so are the americans so the brits so the french i think paris did a good job so um now so
00:36:09.300 here i'm going to go back to my segue butting my head against it so miss harris and mr walls you were
00:36:15.380 right i thought it would be kelly maybe shapiro i was hoping for shapiro you were right it was walls
00:36:21.780 you brought the world's attention to this middle western midwestern white guy um who's turned out to
00:36:29.940 be an asset to the ticket um as of last night apparently she is ahead in michigan pennsylvania
00:36:37.260 and wisconsin which means it's all over if it holds what do you think how is she doing well on
00:36:43.060 the walls thing i had a bit of an advantage he's the governor of the state next door and minnesota
00:36:47.220 happens to be in the top five for states that are so-called business friendly they've got more head
00:36:54.080 offices i guess per capita in minneapolis st paul than anywhere i'm kidding i did not know that
00:36:58.960 yeah the 3m is there and just a whole whole bunch of others they've got the best health care the mayo
00:37:04.520 clinic is in is in minnesota uh they've got the highest levels of the people for a secondary
00:37:10.580 education they're either number one or number two in the country for that the university of minnesota
00:37:15.000 is outstanding on on several levels and uh you know like i say they're the the happiest and their
00:37:21.280 economy is all right is good and all the rest of it the point is that when when your neighbors
00:37:25.920 you know your minnesota neighbors are next door and they've been happy and they're doing really
00:37:30.280 well and business is good and and health care is good and everything else it's really hard
00:37:36.680 i'm going to try to say this with a straight face it's really hard to take the republican talking
00:37:43.040 point seriously because they're trying to say that minnesota is like the soviet union it's dark
00:37:50.300 and dank and oppressive because of governor because of this tyrant you know tim putin walls
00:37:59.200 i know it's it's so fucked up but like you look at trump this week like so apparently now justin trudeau
00:38:08.220 is on the ballot down there because he's apparently the son of fidel castro like trump just can't help
00:38:14.480 himself he's talking to lily about this he can't talk about policy all he can do is attack people
00:38:20.280 personalities and it's like i just don't get it like what what is the matter with this how why is
00:38:27.200 he going after justin trudeau what's the strategy in that well because because he he he he says things
00:38:33.220 that the most extreme elements of his fan base like because fundamentally his problem is he needs
00:38:42.220 to be loved and so he's appealing to the people who who do love him but he he thinks the people who
00:38:49.860 love him represent 80 of the united states as opposed to about eight percent of the united states and his
00:38:56.380 own people just cannot get him uh to spell the word discipline discipline is not on the menu when it
00:39:03.620 comes to donald trump otherwise donald trump could do what you usually do criticize aspects of the
00:39:09.780 economy criticize the border criticize crime there's always stuff you can criticize about no matter what
00:39:16.560 country you're in but when you end up making yourself the target of criticism by saying things
00:39:21.420 like i got crowds my crowds are bigger than anybody else's crowd bigger than my crowds and then when he
00:39:27.380 said bigger than my martin luther king's crowds warren we used to have an expression in my business a long
00:39:35.180 time ago and this had to do mostly it was radio but it was radio and tv and the expression that we used to
00:39:42.340 use once in a while was when someone thinks meaning an entertainer a performer when someone thinks
00:39:48.080 they're bigger than the beatles it's time for them to go yep you know if you're if you're a christian
00:39:55.480 you ain't bigger than jesus and if you're an american leader no you ain't bigger than martin luther king
00:40:02.920 not gonna happen but he he's obsessed with polls i presume he can read them it's like donald you're losing
00:40:09.960 now in swing states she and she hasn't even had her convention yet her convention's coming up she's
00:40:16.460 gonna get a bump out of that too and p.s dude she's not making any mistakes well you know she listened
00:40:22.720 to adler yeah well you know he feels he's entitled to the biggest crowds that's not happening he feels
00:40:28.420 he's entitled to the oval office and he feels and this is the thing that's most absurd about uh his
00:40:34.660 entitlement thing he feels he's entitled to have joe biden at his opponent
00:40:40.960 and he's he's getting into these fantasies out loud you know uh when you know we talked about age
00:40:48.280 earlier but when an aging person is thinking out loud and fantasizing out loud he makes a fool of
00:40:54.420 himself so he's fantasizing now publicly about joe biden demanding coming back that the democrats take
00:41:02.320 him back it's whack it's just so whack um well you know she um i'm kind of partial to her i think
00:41:12.600 she's doing great i think she is going to be president of the united states um the walls pick is going well
00:41:18.900 uh up here kind of a rare event um justin trudeau and pierre polyevre actually had a lot of agreement
00:41:28.540 this week on chinese electric vehicles on uh immigration it was kind of it was nice to see
00:41:37.600 you know people saying more or less the same thing it's i think voters would appreciate that wouldn't
00:41:43.680 they well they would appreciate it for a while but let's face it once they get into the cut thrust
00:41:47.600 the campaign yeah yeah reasons to cut each other's uh throats a good piece by the way uh the government
00:41:53.440 needs to take seriously whoever is in charge of government needs to take seriously what you
00:41:58.640 talked about in post media and that's my setup to you uh to make a splash about this because because
00:42:03.780 it matters thanks man yeah i know it's a piece uh two pages um took a while a lot of work just about
00:42:10.240 um and i think it's important because you know the canada revenue agency has gone after the jewish
00:42:17.260 national fund which is a hundred year old charity that has done fine work not just for jews but for
00:42:22.780 non-jews as well for more than 100 years and um there are a number of charities i found who are
00:42:29.720 pro-palestinian and they're allowed to be that god bless them but it looks like they're you know
00:42:34.620 sending money on to organizations that the americans have said are terrorist or extremist and you know
00:42:42.720 that's that's not right that that shouldn't be happening so that needs to be looked at so
00:42:47.340 i got a story about that this week um but that you know in fairness to the trudeau guys this problem
00:42:53.500 has existed for for many years going back to the harper years and before that too we um you know
00:43:00.720 unlike the americans i find on the follow the money stuff that guys like you and me are so preoccupied
00:43:07.240 with the americans are way better on this stuff than than us canadians i'm not sure why but you
00:43:13.960 know in a more dangerous world i think we need to step it up but in in general over the years it
00:43:20.260 doesn't really matter which uh cause in which country we're talking about uh you know you're a
00:43:25.300 you're a proud irishman and i've got to tell you that when i lived in boston uh there were always
00:43:31.300 old-time journalists who used to talk to me about how the ira raised money and they raised tons of
00:43:37.960 it of course as you can imagine the boston area huge uh many irish expats living in boston and all
00:43:44.620 over new england and of course in new york and the significant way that they raised money was through
00:43:49.860 so-called irish charities they were charities but much of the money ended up in the hands of the ira
00:43:56.740 you've just given me an idea for a follow-up story i'm gonna that's actually i i'm gonna chase
00:44:02.460 that down because that is an excellent indicator of how we've had this problem for a while it's the
00:44:08.060 easiest way to find cover for for many many causes in many countries uh find a charity undermine the
00:44:13.500 charity and you know in gaza you know find a hospital find a school bury yourself inside the
00:44:19.220 hospital or school and then when your opponent uh bombs naturally you're going to have uh you're going
00:44:26.040 to have your your your shields your human shields dead and then try to get the world to focus on on
00:44:31.300 the dead and not on the on the bad guys well said well said my friend thank you so much thank you for
00:44:38.460 the birthday wishes we wish you um birthday wishes in advance we'll get obviously be talking to you in
00:44:44.780 the next couple weeks and we look forward to celebrating that with you charles thank you all the
00:44:50.780 best to you from our neighboring uh governor minnesota governor tim vance who wants to remind
00:44:56.100 you that there's an expression that he's been using for years that every american and canadian
00:45:00.640 have been using but nobody thought that this could be a meme and this is my favorite expression from
00:45:06.040 governor walls the government needs to mind its own damn business
00:45:10.100 here here brother thank you see you happy birthday
00:45:15.800 excellent that was good i like it when we talk about non-political stuff
00:45:22.060 yeah yeah yeah it's uh it's it's actually uh it's it's a good thing because it makes it makes us
00:45:28.860 human i don't want to get into a whole rant about uh the punditocracy and all the rest of it but
00:45:34.140 no no no in general it doesn't matter whether they're you know a local national internet whatever
00:45:40.000 the fuck they think they are they're a bunch of no names not only aren't they bigger than the
00:45:43.340 beetles they're no bigger than ants i think that's an expression that you use every now and then you
00:45:47.920 know that that's what they are and one of the reasons they are that is because they have such an
00:45:51.460 incredible like difficult time thinking of them thinking of themselves as human beings and just
00:45:56.520 having some human conversation mixed in with the mixed in with the uh mixed in with the political
00:46:02.060 but anyway on the on the walls thing uh you know it's it's an old uh political uh math thing
00:46:09.000 that if you pick the right partner uh the two of you it's no different than music the two of you are
00:46:15.020 bigger than the sum of of the parts so it with with with uh with the vance uh the bats the with
00:46:23.520 harrison walls harrison walls are much larger now than just harrison walls and i still can't believe
00:46:31.280 that uh the uh vance crowd you know and the trumps are going after walls's military it's so fucking
00:46:42.280 stupid when the top of your ticket is is a guy who you know obviously uh had created some kind of toe
00:46:48.320 problem or whatever his doctor uh bone spurs right when when the top of the ticket is corporal bone spurs
00:46:57.120 uh you know accusing a guy who's in the national guard for 23 years oh but he happened to run for
00:47:02.400 congress just before he was going to go to iraq i guess that makes him a deserter yeah yeah yeah way
00:47:10.000 to go corporal barnspur i'm going to get inside to my female cousins who are waiting for me thanks for
00:47:14.980 this brother have a great day man
00:47:16.420 can't you just see i've been losing my mind
00:47:32.560 i've run out of time
00:47:35.500 the past has got up and i guess there's no reason to try
00:47:39.500 can't stop explaining myself out of this maybe complain just a little bit less i've lost all direction and i'll end up like all the rest
00:47:53.500 well you don't need a reason to fall
00:47:58.780 sometimes there is no reason after all
00:48:04.860 at the end of the day
00:48:07.980 at the end of the day
00:48:14.300 now i can see that i've been cast aside
00:48:22.940 waiting for change and the turn of the time
00:48:25.900 with each day that passes i only fall from the behind
00:48:30.140 better not know when how things come to end
00:48:35.740 it's temporary for you to pretend
00:48:38.380 to become so fast when you know that you're on your way down
00:48:44.380 well you don't need a reason to fall
00:48:50.380 sometimes there is no reason after all
00:48:56.380 at the end of the day
00:49:02.380 at the end of the day
00:49:08.380 your hopes are all fading
00:49:12.380 you're feeling like
00:49:14.380 you're gonna drown
00:49:16.380 and clarity always
00:49:18.380 comes when you hit the ground
00:49:20.380 i need something
00:49:22.380 to change
00:49:26.380 i need something
00:49:28.380 to change
00:49:30.380 at the end of the day
00:49:36.380 your hopes are all fading
00:49:38.380 you're feeling like
00:49:40.380 you're gonna drown
00:49:42.380 at the end of the day
00:49:44.380 always comes
00:49:46.380 when you hit the ground
00:49:48.380 and we're back
00:49:52.380 and we're back
00:49:54.380 with my buddy
00:49:56.380 Brian the elite
00:49:58.380 i'm sitting in my jeep
00:50:00.380 in front of my place
00:50:02.380 in the county
00:50:04.380 because my house is full of my cousins
00:50:06.380 i've got these amazing female cousins
00:50:08.380 who come and hang out with me every summer
00:50:10.380 and we just had been having a blast
00:50:12.380 but it's a little noisy in there
00:50:14.380 so i'm in the jeep
00:50:16.380 and i think you're in a weird place too
00:50:18.380 all right well it's not a weird place
00:50:20.380 but i'm on the roof of my building
00:50:22.380 i'm on the 24th floor
00:50:24.380 looking west young man
00:50:26.380 looking west
00:50:28.380 so i've got my back to you
00:50:30.380 but yeah i've got
00:50:32.380 teenage nephews in the condo
00:50:34.380 and you know
00:50:36.380 teenage boys
00:50:38.380 hey you guys gotta be quiet for a bit
00:50:40.380 how well do you think that's gonna go
00:50:42.380 good luck with that
00:50:44.380 well no being on the roof of a 24 story building
00:50:46.380 that is kind of different
00:50:48.380 man
00:50:49.380 well this this is our uh our rooftop patio
00:50:52.380 it's awesome
00:50:53.380 nice describe it to people
00:50:54.380 to so they can picture where you are
00:50:57.380 uh so i'm uh i'm looking out
00:51:00.380 over the toronto skyline
00:51:02.380 uh i'm looking west as i said
00:51:04.380 i i can see the high rises out in
00:51:06.380 uh the east end of toronto
00:51:08.380 i'm pretty much to mississauga today
00:51:10.380 uh i can clearly see queens park
00:51:13.380 yes i live close to work
00:51:14.380 and uh it's um
00:51:16.380 it's um it's a beautiful
00:51:18.380 clear day actually
00:51:20.380 which very different than yesterday
00:51:22.380 uh so can you in this clear day
00:51:25.380 can you see america
00:51:26.380 and what's happening
00:51:28.380 see what i did there
00:51:29.380 a little segue
00:51:30.380 not bad
00:51:31.380 uh can you see all the way to
00:51:33.380 rochester and new york
00:51:35.380 and what's happening to the numbers
00:51:37.380 because it looks to me like
00:51:39.380 ms harris is doing okay
00:51:41.380 what do you think
00:51:43.380 well i sent you a poll the other day
00:51:45.380 that i found fascinating
00:51:47.380 uh an ipsos poll
00:51:49.380 that had harris ahead
00:51:51.380 but they they did say
00:51:53.380 look she's got a lot of excitement
00:51:55.380 around her right now
00:51:56.380 but beware of false negatives
00:51:58.380 uh that was cliff and ipsos
00:52:00.380 put that out there
00:52:01.380 and then you know
00:52:03.380 it explained that there are certain
00:52:05.380 fundamentals that are still
00:52:06.380 in trump's favor such as
00:52:08.380 the top issues are
00:52:09.380 the economy
00:52:11.380 inflation
00:52:12.380 immigration
00:52:13.380 crime
00:52:14.380 and on all of those
00:52:15.380 voters favor trump
00:52:16.380 on healthcare
00:52:17.380 and abortion
00:52:18.380 they favor harris
00:52:19.380 but there's a lot of excitement
00:52:20.380 around harris right now
00:52:21.380 and so you know
00:52:23.380 my view is
00:52:24.380 she's going to have a
00:52:26.380 good week or so
00:52:27.380 got the convention coming up
00:52:29.380 after labor day
00:52:31.380 we're going to see the real campaign start
00:52:33.380 but i mean
00:52:35.380 talk about a resuscitation
00:52:37.380 um
00:52:38.380 that's wild
00:52:39.380 you know
00:52:40.380 right now
00:52:41.380 270 to win.com
00:52:42.380 has her ahead
00:52:43.380 on their average of polls
00:52:44.380 and i don't know how each of them
00:52:45.380 does their average
00:52:46.380 but
00:52:47.380 their average of polls
00:52:48.380 they've got her ahead by 2.1 percent
00:52:50.380 nationally
00:52:51.380 uh
00:52:52.380 real clear politics
00:52:54.380 has her ahead by half a point
00:52:56.380 as does 538
00:52:57.380 uh
00:52:58.380 so
00:52:59.380 but
00:53:00.380 you know
00:53:01.380 you think back to
00:53:02.380 just after the debate
00:53:03.380 at one point
00:53:04.380 trump was ahead by
00:53:05.380 three points
00:53:06.380 uh
00:53:07.380 then it became two
00:53:08.380 he
00:53:09.380 held his
00:53:10.380 lead
00:53:11.380 in the national polls
00:53:12.380 on
00:53:13.380 until
00:53:14.380 maybe a week after
00:53:15.380 she took over
00:53:16.380 and things started
00:53:17.380 shift
00:53:18.380 and the interesting number
00:53:19.380 in the ipsos poll
00:53:20.380 that i sent you
00:53:21.380 was
00:53:22.380 voter enthusiasm
00:53:23.380 mm-hmm
00:53:24.380 so
00:53:25.380 in june ipsos
00:53:26.380 asked
00:53:27.380 voters
00:53:28.380 and they always ask are you
00:53:29.380 uh
00:53:30.380 a republican
00:53:31.380 are you a democrat
00:53:32.380 are you an independent
00:53:33.380 and they ask questions like
00:53:35.380 how
00:53:36.380 uh
00:53:37.380 you know
00:53:38.380 will you definitely be voting
00:53:39.380 in june
00:53:40.380 when
00:53:41.380 biden
00:53:42.380 got the
00:53:43.380 crap
00:53:44.380 beaten out of them
00:53:45.380 in that debate
00:53:46.380 and
00:53:47.380 you know
00:53:48.380 couldn't finish sentences
00:53:49.380 uh
00:53:50.380 anyway
00:53:51.380 only 60% of democrats
00:53:52.380 said they're definitely
00:53:53.380 going to vote
00:53:54.380 and
00:53:55.380 it was
00:53:56.380 about 68
00:53:57.380 69% of republicans
00:53:58.380 republicans have gone up to 73%
00:54:00.380 said they're definitely going to vote
00:54:02.380 and they're going to vote for trump
00:54:04.380 uh
00:54:05.380 but now
00:54:06.380 it's 71%
00:54:08.380 of democrats
00:54:09.380 say they're definitely going to vote
00:54:10.380 and they'll vote for harris
00:54:11.380 that's a big
00:54:13.380 change
00:54:14.380 in the enthusiasm cap
00:54:15.380 and when i talked to daryl bricker
00:54:17.380 the the global ceo of ipsos
00:54:19.380 that's what he said
00:54:20.380 he expected to happen
00:54:21.380 with this change to harris
00:54:23.380 uh
00:54:24.380 is
00:54:25.380 getting back to the point you
00:54:26.380 getting back to the point you made earlier though
00:54:28.380 because i think you're bang on
00:54:29.380 the issues matrix
00:54:32.380 call it that
00:54:33.380 favors trump
00:54:34.380 economy
00:54:35.380 immigration
00:54:36.380 it totally
00:54:37.380 favors trump
00:54:38.380 but there he goes again
00:54:39.380 this week
00:54:40.380 like he
00:54:41.380 he can't bring himself to talk about policy
00:54:43.380 he's always personalities
00:54:44.380 he's attacking people
00:54:45.380 personally
00:54:46.380 i mean he
00:54:47.380 i guess the latest he's decided
00:54:48.380 justin trudeau's on the ballot
00:54:50.380 saying that trudeau's
00:54:51.380 you know the son of
00:54:52.380 fidel castro
00:54:54.380 like how does that possibly help him
00:54:56.380 when americans want to hear about the economy
00:54:58.380 it's just so
00:54:59.380 fucking stupid
00:55:00.380 neither one of them's talking about
00:55:02.380 issues
00:55:03.380 i i think it was even the new yorker
00:55:05.380 pointed out
00:55:06.380 that harris's website
00:55:08.380 has like seven donation pages
00:55:10.380 and no policy
00:55:12.380 uh
00:55:13.380 and for speeches
00:55:14.380 they're out there talking about joy
00:55:16.380 they're talking about being positive
00:55:18.380 freedom
00:55:19.380 that they are not talking about policy
00:55:21.380 except for abortion
00:55:23.380 why
00:55:24.380 because they have the same polling
00:55:25.380 you know
00:55:26.380 so
00:55:27.380 trump has to talk about policy
00:55:29.380 he has to talk about the border
00:55:31.380 he has to talk about the economy
00:55:33.380 and as you and i have discussed before
00:55:35.380 doesn't matter if the imf
00:55:37.380 and i'll use this as an example
00:55:39.380 because i saw liberals here in canada
00:55:41.380 posting about
00:55:42.380 oh look the imf says our economy is great
00:55:45.380 canadians feel like their economy sucks
00:55:48.380 they're dealing with the impact of food prices
00:55:51.380 being 25 percent higher than they were three years ago
00:55:55.380 don't tell them that the imf says we're doing great
00:55:58.380 the same thing in the united states
00:56:01.380 yeah inflation is down
00:56:03.380 but food prices there are 25 to 30 percent higher than they were three years ago
00:56:08.380 people still notice that they're looking at the bag of pasta and say
00:56:13.380 wait a minute this used to cost a lot less
00:56:15.380 they're looking at meat
00:56:16.380 for goodness sakes
00:56:17.380 meat
00:56:18.380 and saying
00:56:19.380 oh my god i can't afford to to feed my family the way i want
00:56:22.380 you know they're they're they're they're they're having to feel like cousin eddie
00:56:26.380 in uh in national lampoons vacation
00:56:30.380 don't know why they call it hamburger helper tastes just fine on its own
00:56:34.380 so let's go but let's talk about the son of fidel castro here for a minute
00:56:39.380 you sent me a poll this morning showing because poll showing the gap is still 20 points
00:56:44.380 whatever the issue is it like trudeau's in trouble the immigration you know you got the alleged father and son thing
00:56:51.380 i've got a piece in the paper this morning about you know abuse of charities they're going after jewish charities but leaving alone possibly extremist pro-palestinian ones
00:57:01.380 um like he's just behind the eight ball on everything and again it may be because he's fidel castro's son i don't know but like it just now you're sounding like trump
00:57:12.380 now you're sounding like trump
00:57:14.380 could be anything that's possible in this world
00:57:16.380 uh i mean look uh we've all seen the photos and there's a striking similarity between a young trudeau and a young fidel castro
00:57:25.380 but i think the math is that his mother margaret did not meet fidel castro until three years after trudeau was born something like that immaculate conception yeah yeah so um
00:57:38.380 you know it's so stupid but like trump like trudeau's not on the ballot like what the fuck like dude stop attacking people start talking about policy that's how you can win this thing
00:57:50.380 but he just can't help himself it's just always going after people instead of the policy piece
00:57:55.380 well and trudeau is talking about policy and saying um i mean this week their dual message which i just find bizarre
00:58:04.380 was you know if the conservatives get in they're going to ban abortion and take away your child care
00:58:09.380 well okay uh that's kind of two opposites there but that's what they're going after
00:58:19.380 um you know polyev has said neither they're they're trying to push on affordability with things like
00:58:26.380 uh child care or seniors dental but i mean these are all programs that uh aren't working out the way that
00:58:35.160 that they were promised wind just blew down part of the the chair i'm on um hang on there sailor
00:58:41.140 don't disappear on us helps on the way so the dental program uh they they made canadians believe
00:58:49.200 that it was free dental care for seniors it's not free uh a lot of dentists are not signing up for it
00:58:55.480 because instead of uh working with the provinces who all have their own dental care programs instead
00:59:01.680 of working with the provinces to expand that they said to the provinces no we're going to do our own
00:59:08.760 and they invent this huge bureaucracy they invent a program uh setup that the reason the dentists aren't
00:59:16.460 signing up is it's overly cumbersome takes a lot of time uh that costs them money uh and then seniors
00:59:23.720 aren't getting the care they want and they're not getting it free like they were promised uh child
00:59:27.980 care it's the same thing uh and the program is demand is outstripping what they have delivered on
00:59:36.440 uh ontario is actually you know you're hearing some uh complaints about it but ontario is actually
00:59:41.720 doing better because i know the guy that negotiated with the feds he used to be my boss jamie wallace
00:59:46.700 when he was chief of staff for doug ford and he kept looking at what the other provinces were
00:59:50.580 negotiating and said there is going to be a problem and that's why ontario was i believe the last to
00:59:56.380 sign on wasn't because they were saying no to the the program they were demanding more from the feds
01:00:02.680 because they could see the issues coming and now we've got you know wait lists and places saying that
01:00:08.420 they can't cope um money not flowing from the feds properly you know so yeah you're going around
01:00:14.700 talking about your programs but your programs aren't what you promised and they aren't as good
01:00:19.220 as you promised so people people notice that just like they notice oh i can't afford a house like i used
01:00:25.260 to uh and trudeau's going around talking about housing he's the least responsible for housing by the
01:00:30.440 way the federal government has that least amount of responsibility but he talks about it more than
01:00:35.140 anybody and and so he wears it brian lily up on the roof just be safe be safe come down come on down
01:00:45.760 um thank you sir i really appreciate it have a great day uh i bet you're going to take hoey for a walk
01:00:52.300 on that beautiful day that beautiful view you've got all a great day and a great week
01:00:56.420 that's it
01:00:57.520 there we go
01:01:02.120 you think that i'm invincible it's gonna pull me down
01:01:08.840 pull me down
01:01:10.580 you think that i'm invincible it's gonna pull me down
01:01:15.580 somewhere i don't want to go
01:01:18.040 you think that i'm a miracle it's gonna pull me down
01:01:42.660 somewhere i don't want to go
01:01:44.660 it's okay
01:01:50.660 it's okay
01:01:51.660 i don't know what you want from me but it's probably already gone
01:02:03.620 i don't care what you think of me your opinion means nothing at all
01:02:10.280 i don't say i'm okay don't say i'm okay don't say i'm okay i'm not okay
01:02:17.280 Don't say I'm okay
01:02:19.520 Don't say I'm okay
01:02:21.240 Don't say I'm okay
01:02:22.720 I'm not okay
01:02:47.280 Don't say I'm not trying
01:02:54.880 Trying to do what's right
01:02:56.520 Now it's time to walk away
01:02:58.940 I don't know what you want from me
01:03:02.520 But it's probably already gone
01:03:05.540 I don't care what you think of me
01:03:09.320 Your opinion means nothing at all
01:03:12.320 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:14.940 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:16.620 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:18.080 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:21.680 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:23.360 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:24.880 I'm not okay
01:03:26.120 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:28.080 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:30.220 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:33.600 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:35.220 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:36.800 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:38.380 I'm not okay
01:03:39.280 Don't say I'm okay
01:03:46.620 Amen.