KINSELLACAST 323： The Festival of Joy is here! With Adler, Lilley, Belanger, Kheiriddin and more! Plus Pink Spiders, Dave Hause, Nothington, Face to Face
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Summary
A birthday celebration of the birth of The Warren Child, a trip to Bloomfield, New Jersey, a birthday present from my cousins, and a new piece I'm working on with a bunch of great people who cannot be named.
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It's the Kinsella Cast, starring Warren Kinsella.
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Hey, it's Warren. Welcome to the Festival of Joy.
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This is the culmination of the two-week-long celebration of the birth of Warren Chum.
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I'm older. I'm not going to tell you how much older I am, because I don't want to get bored.
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I have things to do. I was talking to my cousins about that.
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They're all in the next room, being quiet, so I can do the introduction for you.
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And we talked about parents and grandparents and lives.
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And I'm so grateful that I've stayed in touch with them, and they've stayed in touch with me.
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Not necessarily birthday-related, but we get together, and it's great.
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I think he came in with the newspaper and never left, but he was here and added some laughs.
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He definitely was the target of several of my cousins.
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And we had a great dinner last night that she prepared at her rural home-based business.
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And then I got a gift from my editors, Adrian Batron, Jonathan Kingston, in the support of Brian Lilly and others, Chris Doucette, a piece I've been working on for months with the help of a lot of great people who cannot be named.
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Basically, it's about these pro-Palestinian charities.
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And it's great to be pro-Palestinian and to be a charity, but some of them are sending money to some pretty shady characters in the Middle East, some dangerous people.
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So that story is on the front page in The Sun and will be across the country in post-media today.
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And so Adrian and Jonathan and Brian and Chris helped me shepherd that through.
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So that was another, I guess, a little birthday present to myself.
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So I encourage you to read that and let me know what you think.
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And yeah, so we're going to go to Bloomfield after I do this introduction and do the podcast earlier.
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I don't have John Mraz on this week because I couldn't connect with him at the right time, but we will next week.
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And I'm off to the States after that to work for Miss Harris.
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Although you can feel the little taste of the fall in the air, can't you?
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So I'm not going to do some big soliloquy, no monologue start, but I do have Brian on the show.
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Got Charles Adler on the show, wishing me a happy birthday.
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Got Tasha Carradine, Carl Belanger, Andrew Pinson, and some great music.
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It is catchier than a drawer full of fishhooks, as I like to say.
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Loved ones, Dave Howes, just this amazing artist, punk rocker.
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One of my good friends, Michaela Bentley, her son plays with Dave Howes on tour.
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Nothington, who, in my opinion, do social distortion better than social distortion does.
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And some other stuff for you, so hopefully you'll enjoy that.
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And I'm off to celebrate some more the birth of the Warren child with my cousins.
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I'm sick of never smiling because you're so untied.
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You stand on your shoulders out of dreading water.
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you too much to be crushed like that. Don't call it a crush. Baby, you know I love you too much to be
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crushed like that. This is CFRA Live, Sunday Political Panel.
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And welcome to it. Joining us this morning on the phone is Warren Contella. He is a strategist
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and post-media columnist. You can read his latest in the Toronto Sun. Good morning, Warren. Thanks
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for joining us. Morning, sir. Happy Sunday to Tasha Carradine, political columnist for the
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National Post and author and writer for GZero Media. Thanks for joining us, Tasha. Hello. And
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Carl Belanger also here. He is the president at Traction Strategies. Happy Sunday, Carl. Thanks
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for joining us. Morning, folks. You know, a little bit more interesting in terms of summer political
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news this week on this side of the border. So that's some good news, but obviously some rough
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news on this side in terms of the emergency hearings that we have being seen called. Canada's public
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safety minister says the federal government internally reviewing the immigration and security
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screening of a father and son that the RCMP recently charged in connection to an alleged
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foil Toronto terror plot. In terms of where we go from here, Warren, the Conservatives were calling
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for this, but it does seem like a no-brainer in figuring out how these two were able to get
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into the country. Yeah, I don't understand why we don't know when exactly they they came into the
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country. Did that happen in the Trudeau era or before that? So we need to know that to figure out where
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criticism should be applied, because there should be some criticism. The father is alleged, alleged
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to have participated in an ISIS video where a man was hanging from a pole in the desert wearing an
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orange pantsuit getting his limbs hacked off. And obviously, you know, it's an allegation, but
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that, you know, whoever did that, that's not a desirable person for Canada. But, you know, across the
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board, we've got problems. I've got a story in the post media and in the Sun papers this morning about
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a number of pro-Palestinian charities receiving money here that's being transferred to
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extremist and possibly terrorist organizations abroad. So, like, it just, it feels like this
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government over the past decade has dropped the ball on these types of issues. And that's not good
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because it makes us all less safe. And just your point on the ISIS kind of connection there, Global
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News did report that last week. CTV hasn't verified it or CFRA hasn't verified it, but that is what's out
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there right now. And it has kind of prompted this discussion. Dominic LeBlanc, obviously pretty tight-lipped
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on this, saying the work is ongoing to figure out what exactly happened here. But, but Tasha, I think
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Canadians probably deserve answers, no? Well, a hundred percent. And if, if, if this, this fellow
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was not caught, then the question is how many other people got in? That's really, I think, what's in
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people's minds, too. And the only reason he did not pretend is because he decided to instigate a terror
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plot, kill people. So, you know, there could be other, a lot of other people. And I wrote about this as well,
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because to me, it really is, it's a numbers game. I mean, the government is letting in upwards of a
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million people every year to the country. We have percent of our population now as temporary
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residents, non-permanent residents. And while it's great to have immigration to Canada, we need to have
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managed immigration to Canada. This has been the success of our country. We have a point system that
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is supposed to address labor needs. Instead, we see that people have a percent unemployment rate among
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non-permanent residents in Canada. People are coming into this country with the hope of staying,
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whether it's as a refugee, whether it's as a student, whether it's on a work visa. And we're
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letting them in on the premise that they, you know, potentially build a life here. They choose to
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stay. And the reality is very different. We have a housing crisis. So the government failed everywhere.
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This is the worst. People could have died because of this, but there's a general failure across the
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board because the government has just let in, quite frankly, too big country to handle in too
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short a span of time. And Carl, you know, these, these hearings, hopefully, hopefully going to get
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to the bottom of this in any way, shape or in some way, shape or form. But is this just on the
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surface, does this look like a failure in some way, shape or form for, you know, Canada's security
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apparatus? I suppose you could say so at the same time. What are we expecting? That there's some
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kind of gigantic database where the agents will review every single video that may or may not
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exist about an individual? Like it's a very difficult matter. So how do you handle it? I'm not sure. And
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I'm looking forward to see what we will uncover about the hearings and the type of investigation that
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they're doing on people coming in. But I suspect it's not very much. I suspect it's, you know,
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they have a list of people. And if you're not on that list somehow, you'll get through. And that's
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what my hypothesis right now. We'll see how it unfolds. But clearly, it's a problem. How we fix it,
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though, I don't think is easy. Yeah, no doubt. And we'll see if the RCMP has anything more to add to
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this whole conversation and story in the coming days as well. Another story making the rounds this week.
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I thought it was interesting because, you know, I think Pierre Polyev often gets criticized for not
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having substantive policy decisions, positions, I should say. But I don't think that's always
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necessarily true on certain particular things. But he did drop one this week on tariffs and Chinese
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tariffs in particular. And it does appear the liberals are paying attention. They're saying,
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stay tuned on this. I guess, Tasha, is this kind of a winning strategy for Pierre Polyev in terms of
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just sticking to the policies? It's the economy, stupid. Well, I think absolutely. I mean, look,
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Polyev is doubling down on the labor vote, on the union vote. And this is part of that, too,
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is saying that, you know, unionized jobs are going to be on the line, basically auto worker jobs.
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And that's consistent with his previous message. But I think there's also a larger issue here
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that we have to stay in lockstep with our partners in the sense of Kuzma, the U.S. and Mexico.
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They're both putting in tariffs because they also see the threat to their workers. The U.S. is an
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election year. Mexico is not. But the threat is the same. And so I think that it actually makes
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perfect sense. And besides the fact that China is doing this deliberately to flood the market,
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not to save the planet and give everyone cheap EVs, they have other designs, as we know. And their
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interests are not aligned with Western interests. So there's a host of reasons to do this.
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And I think that he's right on the money. And the government should be doing this,
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because that is what our, like I said, our main economic partners are doing as well.
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You know, Carl, I was looking at this and I was thinking, this is exactly what Stephen Harper
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would do in many senses. And just hitting the policy economic part on the head here,
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I guess, is this what, you know, Pierre needs to keep doing in order to be successful here?
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Yeah, I mean, you're right. It's probably exactly what Harper would have done.
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And the thing that gets me and the thing that I've always said when it comes to China is that
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you can't act alone. You really need to do this in coordination with other allies,
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because if you don't, then you're not really achieving your goal in terms of foreign policy.
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So if you are to tackle China, you need to coordinate it. So if you follow suit with what
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the United States are doing, I think it's a good thing. But you need to be very certain of where
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your head is, because it's going to create a lot of tension for sure. And we've seen China in action
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in the past few years, decades. They do not mind meddling. They do not mind interfering.
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And they'll keep doing it, then they may increase their pay. So we got to be prepared for that.
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Yeah, even at a perceived slight, in some cases as well. When we're talking about the idea of,
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I guess, sticking on the economy, Warren, is this the bread and butter that Pierre Polio should be
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sticking to? It appears the Liberals are at least watching.
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I know it's been working for him. He actually, if you pay attention to what he does, he doesn't
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spend a lot of time on the scandal stuff. He leaves that to the members of his so-called shadow
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cabinet. And he's Mr. Pocketbook. And on this issue, he's right. And to Carl's point,
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he's actually just following in the footsteps of our allies, the United States of America. In May,
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President Biden said on this issue, these Chinese EVs that they intend to dump here, want to dump here,
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the Americans that they're going to slap 100%, 100% tariff rate on EVs from China because it's an
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unfair trade practice. And, you know, some might say he did that at the behest of the UAW or what
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have you. It doesn't matter. It is the right decision. And right now, the tariff they've got is 25%.
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They're going to move it to 100% if China goes ahead with this. And the Americans have no choice.
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And, you know, as an auto manufacturer, we don't either. So, yeah, I think this is one of those happy
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rare instances where the opposition and the government are making the right noises.
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And on the seemingly same page, I guess I'll just follow up with you, Warren, on the next story,
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because it is about Parapolio as well. And I'm not sure what to make of this. We are seeing this
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online bot campaign. It's not really new when it comes to social media. But there's questions here about
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whether this, you know, online campaign was backing Pierre Polyev, the NDP is calling for
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a probe by the election commissioner here. What do you make of this whole situation? Is this much
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ado about nothing? Or do you think there's something more there?
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I don't know. I looked at it and I had that very same question. Like on the one hand, like all of us
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are active online, okay? And, you know, for example, let me give you a shocking example. You can post
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an obituary about a family member who's passed away these days, like you as a person. And bots will
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actually take it and manipulate it and make use of it to attract people to advertising. Because they
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know that people go online when they hear about somebody passing away, and they Google it. And
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instead of finding the official obituary, they find something else. Like that's how a bot functions
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is as well. Like there's a prodigious business taking place with that stuff. And all of us have
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written and put things online as journalists or commentators. And, you know, we go online to see
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how it's doing. And you find out it's in, you know, somebody in a boiler room in St. Petersburg has
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taken part of it to get it out there. So I have some sympathy for the conservatives on this one.
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Because these days, you can put stuff out there, and it can be grabbed by some guy or bad guy. And
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you have no control over it. And that seems to be what the conservatives are saying here.
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Yeah, I did get that kind of sense as well, where I it's just it's hard to differentiate between what's
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what's normal, quote unquote, on social media, and if there's kind of a concerted campaign, but
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obviously, anybody has the ability to kind of pick up and some of these themes. I guess, Carl,
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what do you what have you read of this situation? Well, I mean, yeah, it could be anybody. It's
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true. I don't think it's the conservative party's headquarters behind it. But it could be some kind
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of conservative sympathizer somewhere doing it. But it could also be foreign agents doing it for
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their own reasons. And we've seen them in action in the past. I mean, that's part of the old
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political interference story that we've been talking. These troll farms in Russia, in China,
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elsewhere, who are meddling and are, you know, popping up supporting a candidate for their
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own political reason. Why are they doing this for Pierre Poirier? Well, that's a very good
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question. And I think people should wonder why they're doing it in favor of Pierre Poirier.
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No, I haven't lost sleep over the bots. You know, I saw this and to Warren's point, my first
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thought was, this is probably a conservative, this is someone making money off the situation.
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Because the conservatives wouldn't do it this legally, I don't think, if they were hiring
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a lot. It's not that they maybe haven't. And maybe all political parties do. I'm not going
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to, you know, speculate further. But I just think this was not an example of something they
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would have done. And when somebody dredged up then a similar situation with the liberals
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and put online a bunch of tweets that were coming from places about, you know, I think
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it was Justin Trudeau. And they were also, obviously, not from people in Canada doing
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this. So I think that it is the problem with the internet and with this kind of stuff is
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that monetization is very tempting. So people can find a way to monetize anything, they will.
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And if these bots were doing that, I don't know how they particularly would make money off
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it, then, well, maybe that's what they were doing. Or it could have been another party.
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I think that, you know, the allegations, oh, maybe the NDP did this. I don't know if
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the NDP would do this either. But the point is, it could have been someone who was trying
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to hurt the conservatives, make them look stupid. I don't know. The point is, we don't
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know. We have no idea. So until someone really knows, we're just guessing.
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To the point, there could even just not be political motives at play. It could be just to
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make money, which is, you know, concerning as well. When we see what's happening in Southampton
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in the UK as well, with some of the online misinformation that's going there. I wanted
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to turn our attention to the US a little bit here before I let you guys go. Well, first,
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Trump kind of weighing in again on Mr. Trudeau this week on the Prime Minister as well. And
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you know, it's the same old greatest hits, right? He brought up the Fidel Castro conspiracy
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theory, took aim at Trudeau. But I was just kind of thinking in this way, shape, and form,
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Carl, does this kind of help Trudeau at this point? This is the card that he's been playing
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against Poliev, right? Is that it's similar to Trump. Does this help him?
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I suppose it kind of supports the narrative. Yes. I think it was funny that Trump could
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not come up with a conservative that could help Canada in this interview. I don't know
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if there's one. But yes, I think it does help Trudeau. But but you know, not in a major
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fashion. I don't think a lot of people are surprised to hear Trump say those things about
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Justin Trudeau. So it's not going to convince many voters that are on the on the fence that
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oh, this is the reason why I should support Trudeau. But it will reinforce his overall
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narrative about Poliev and the conservatives. I'm sure Fox News contributor Kevin O'Leary
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was heartbroken that Trump couldn't think of a conservative guy off the top of his head.
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But Tasha, what do you think of this year? Does this kind of play into that that narrative
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that we've kind of heard from from the Trudeau campaign in general? Well, I mean, I think Trudeau
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hoped that it would because it would make it seem that you know, Trump is that you don't want to
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have Trump Trump north, so to speak, because Trump said, well, it'd be great if a conservative got
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elected in the country. But I think at the end of the day, many people now I mean, the wheels are
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kind of coming off the bus of the Trump campaign in many ways. So whatever Trump is saying, I think
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people are taking perhaps less seriously. I think before when Biden was still the candidate,
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there was a there was a legitimate fear based on the polls. The Trump presidency was inevitable,
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right? And that that was something that Trudeau could have played and said, you know, you need a
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foil in Canada for something like that. Don't elect the conservatives. But now it looks like,
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you know, the Democrats are doing very well. So I think that that changes the dynamic, too. And
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I don't know how Trudeau will play this. I think he's got more problems domestically,
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quite frankly, than what Trump thinks about him.
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It's very true. It's a very good point. And Carl, just when we're looking at this from a
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perspective of just domestic politics, when we see, you know, an outsider like Trump,
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an American kind of getting involved in Canadian politics, you know, does that play to Trudeau's
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favor in many senses? And and to the same point about how he's been using the the Trump campaign
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You're coming back to me or you want to go to Warren?
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Oh, Warren. Sorry, I think I said Carl there. Yeah, sorry, Warren.
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It's okay. I haven't get mistaken for Carl Belagian. I'm happy.
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I'm just so tired of Donald Trump. And, you know, the polls show increasingly a lot of Americans feel
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the same way. Excuse me, as of last night, she's ahead and she's substantially ahead. Wisconsin,
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Pennsylvania, Michigan. That means she's going to be the president of the United States. So look,
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I'm just so fed up with this guy. Like, seriously, you're the son of a guy who got arrested at Ku Klux
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Klan rally. And you're talking about Justin Trudeau's parentage? Like, really? Why does anybody
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listen to you anymore? And P.S., Justin Trudeau's not on the ballot. Probably a good third of Americans
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couldn't find Canada on a map. Like, how is this a useful strategy to him? But, you know, as Tasha
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says, it shows he's just kind of floundering about trying to figure out what to do about the fact
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that he's losing. She's about to go into her convention. She's going to get a bump out of
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that. She's turned out to be a hell of a good campaigner. They're getting massive rallies.
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They got money. They got more money than God. Like, he's losing. So I'm hopeful that this is
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one of the few last stupid things we're going to hear from Donald Trump. But, you know,
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I'm not holding my breath. Well, yeah, I was actually, I was going to ask about the VP
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picks in general, Warren. Just to stick with you for a sec, because it does play into what
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we're kind of talking about here. Obviously, Tim Waltz, Waltz was the pick from Minnesota
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this week. We see the first poll yesterday, the Siena New York Times. Yeah, as you mentioned,
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kind of putting them four points ahead in many of the swing states. So it's a big change from
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before. Was this the right pick, do you think, in terms of a VP?
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Yeah, sure. But it doesn't matter. You know, like, honestly, all that matters, your VP
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pick is if they're a bad pick, like Sarah Palin was or Dan Quayle was, and they can pull
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down the ticket. But they don't really lift it up. You know, people like us talk about
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it for a few days ahead of time and a few days afterwards. And then, you know, the focus
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is the main person on the ballot. The same thing up here. You know, it's the people aren't
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voting for the Liberal government because of Christian Freeland. You know, it's Justin Trudeau
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versus Pierre Polyev. And that's the way they look at politics is the party brand
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and the party leader. So I don't think it matters that much. He wasn't my pick. I
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like Kelly or Shapiro. Shapiro is just like the Pennsylvania Obama and Kelly is the
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astronaut. But, you know, he's fine. He's doing a good job. He came up with this weird
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appellation for the Trump guys. So, you know, he's OK. She he needed she needed a white
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guy for middle America. And she's got the most middle America white guy you could
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possibly get. Hit all the boxes. There's a couple of Jews from, actually, in fact,
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too. But Tasha, on the VP pick, your thoughts on that and also just the kind of
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change in the race that we have seen over the last week or so.
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Well, I think the reason she didn't pick Shapiro in particular was because, yes, she
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is more an Obama on the ticket. She wants to be the Obama on the ticket. The
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energy I feel from Kamala Harris is very similar to the hope and opportunity agenda that Barack
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Obama and the energy that he had. Very positive, very, very positive focus. And I think that
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she wants, I mean, legitimately, she is the star. She is the star of the ticket. Tim
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Waltz is, and it's really funny because McFord just hosted him a couple of months ago in
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Ontario. They took the ball around the picture of the two men and they look like they could
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be brothers, right? Yeah, yeah. That kind of, it's folksy. I was just going to say that
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word, folksy. Yeah. Yeah, he's a folksy guy. And so he brings that element to the ticket.
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But, you know, to Warren's point, is he going to lift up the ticket? No. Is he going to drag
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it down? No. And when you've got, on the other side, you've got J.D. Vance causing all
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sorts of problems for the Trump ticket. It's, it's, now you can, now you will compare both,
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right? You're going to compare the VPs and the present. So I think she needed a very safe
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and very smart choice in picking Tim Waltz. And Carl, just last thoughts to you on the
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VP pick and just the, the kind of change in the dimensions of the race that we've seen
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over the course of the past seven days. I mean, yeah, Warren and Tasha are right. It
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doesn't matter as much as people think unless the campaign is brought down by, by that VP
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pick. But he's taking a lot of boxes, you know, being a former teacher, a veteran to being
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in the National Guard, middle-aged white man, a very comforting presence beyond Kamala Harris,
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who's, you know, totally different from what we've seen before on the presidential ticket.
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But, but really the, the, to change the trend, the Democrats really need something spectacular
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and dramatic. And, and that's why that move worked. And that's why Kamala Harris, you know,
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is, is now on fire right now and raising that much money and, and getting a big bump in the
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polls and it'll keep going. I'm not sure the Republicans have an answer yet. And, and this
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is interesting to me because for all the talk about the fact that, well, it's just too late
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for Trudeau to go, it's too late for Trudeau to leave and be replaced by someone. Well, you
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know, we just saw it happen in the, in the dying months of the presidential campaign. It's
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happened. So it could happen here. And for those who think, well, but the liberals don't
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have a Kamala Harris. Well, I don't think the Democrats thought they had a Kamala Harris
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until she stepped up. I don't think anybody expected her to be this good, but she is.
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You know, it's a very good point. And I've thought about, you know, you know, Joe Biden
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has been characterized as, you know, the brave decision to step away. And, you know, what
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does that mean for, for the prime minister here in a very similar situation? But we'll leave
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it there. Great chat, guys. Warren Kinsella, Tasha Carradine, Carl Belanger, thanks so much
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for your time this morning. I really appreciate it.
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Warren Kinsella is a strategist and post-media columnist. You can read his latest in the Toronto
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Sun this morning. Tasha Carradine is a writer for GZERO Media, an author, the political columnist
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for the National Post, and Carl Belanger is the president at Traction Strategy.
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I'll pull my plug and don't be frightened by the sound.
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hello canada hello winnipeg hello manitoba we are here with charles adler my friend my mentor
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my guide in life charles hello hello ontario and happy birthday to the brother of another mother
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warren kinsella thank you brother i just i hate getting old i don't want to get gold i i got so
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much stuff to do don't you you're that kind of guy too i think you got a birthday coming up i i don't
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take it seriously my my your birthday is today you're we're doing this on august 11th and mine
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is exactly two weeks from now august 25th because well frankly that's how the son of the lord wanted
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i guess what else but uh but i uh i would love to say that uh i don't ever feel older than i used to
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be there are some days where it's clear to me where there are things that go on in popular culture
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uh for instance um the business of breakdancing being a metal sport
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yeah i had the same reaction i'm not like i'm not angry about it i'm not you know i'm not one of
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those aging boomers i'm not i'm not doing one of those it's just it just i just can't take it
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seriously yeah to me the olympics is like throwing a rock throwing a javelin running fast jumping that's
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it right all this other stuff breakdancing it's like what badminton i mean i you can be like 600
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pounds and smoke can play badminton maybe you can't i can offer one more complaint about the
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olympics i think the pole vaulter who had the pole get in the way of the medal i think they should
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have given him a medal because i've never seen anything like that that performance has got to be
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reviewed for thousands of years and if a guy can pull that off he ought to be a medalist
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the pole vaulter i watched was the norwegian one and i don't think she did well and nobody cares
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she was the most beautiful woman who's ever lived but did you see the one i'm talking about did you
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see that no i didn't see it no i just i i can't remember what country it was from because i don't
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want to pretend that i'm a big fan of the olympics i watched the uh winter olympics because i guess i'm
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traditional canada to me is still you know it's skating it's it's hockey it's curling it's bobsledding
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it's all that anyway i i do i do watch some of the the highlights and i don't know what country
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he was from he wasn't he was not a canadian but he was i'll just say you know a well-built guy
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and uh the swan hit the bar and that's that got in the way of the medal all right here comes the
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segue you ready we need to segue at this point because i've taken it right to the dumpsters
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here comes the segue so charles adler we've talked about the olympics how about the olympics
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in the united states who's winning the medal down there
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you're a media person you're a media person you know you're tricking me uh i i don't know i just
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know that uh when it comes to the olympics uh it's easy to bet on the united states i'll use the
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expression warren buffett uses all the time about investments never bet okay in the case of the
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olympics never bet against the united states although in in track yesterday uh the american
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did not take the canadian team seriously and the canadian track team oh that was that was glorious
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that was glorious yeah no it's um you know we had some good money we hit we hit the metal hall i guess
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i mean so are the americans so the brits so the french i think paris did a good job so um now so
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here i'm going to go back to my segue butting my head against it so miss harris and mr walls you were
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right i thought it would be kelly maybe shapiro i was hoping for shapiro you were right it was walls
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you brought the world's attention to this middle western midwestern white guy um who's turned out to
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be an asset to the ticket um as of last night apparently she is ahead in michigan pennsylvania
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and wisconsin which means it's all over if it holds what do you think how is she doing well on
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the walls thing i had a bit of an advantage he's the governor of the state next door and minnesota
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happens to be in the top five for states that are so-called business friendly they've got more head
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offices i guess per capita in minneapolis st paul than anywhere i'm kidding i did not know that
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yeah the 3m is there and just a whole whole bunch of others they've got the best health care the mayo
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clinic is in is in minnesota uh they've got the highest levels of the people for a secondary
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education they're either number one or number two in the country for that the university of minnesota
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is outstanding on on several levels and uh you know like i say they're the the happiest and their
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economy is all right is good and all the rest of it the point is that when when your neighbors
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you know your minnesota neighbors are next door and they've been happy and they're doing really
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well and business is good and and health care is good and everything else it's really hard
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i'm going to try to say this with a straight face it's really hard to take the republican talking
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point seriously because they're trying to say that minnesota is like the soviet union it's dark
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and dank and oppressive because of governor because of this tyrant you know tim putin walls
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i know it's it's so fucked up but like you look at trump this week like so apparently now justin trudeau
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is on the ballot down there because he's apparently the son of fidel castro like trump just can't help
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himself he's talking to lily about this he can't talk about policy all he can do is attack people
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personalities and it's like i just don't get it like what what is the matter with this how why is
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he going after justin trudeau what's the strategy in that well because because he he he he says things
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that the most extreme elements of his fan base like because fundamentally his problem is he needs
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to be loved and so he's appealing to the people who who do love him but he he thinks the people who
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love him represent 80 of the united states as opposed to about eight percent of the united states and his
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own people just cannot get him uh to spell the word discipline discipline is not on the menu when it
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comes to donald trump otherwise donald trump could do what you usually do criticize aspects of the
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economy criticize the border criticize crime there's always stuff you can criticize about no matter what
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country you're in but when you end up making yourself the target of criticism by saying things
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like i got crowds my crowds are bigger than anybody else's crowd bigger than my crowds and then when he
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said bigger than my martin luther king's crowds warren we used to have an expression in my business a long
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time ago and this had to do mostly it was radio but it was radio and tv and the expression that we used to
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use once in a while was when someone thinks meaning an entertainer a performer when someone thinks
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they're bigger than the beatles it's time for them to go yep you know if you're if you're a christian
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you ain't bigger than jesus and if you're an american leader no you ain't bigger than martin luther king
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not gonna happen but he he's obsessed with polls i presume he can read them it's like donald you're losing
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now in swing states she and she hasn't even had her convention yet her convention's coming up she's
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gonna get a bump out of that too and p.s dude she's not making any mistakes well you know she listened
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to adler yeah well you know he feels he's entitled to the biggest crowds that's not happening he feels
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he's entitled to the oval office and he feels and this is the thing that's most absurd about uh his
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entitlement thing he feels he's entitled to have joe biden at his opponent
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and he's he's getting into these fantasies out loud you know uh when you know we talked about age
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earlier but when an aging person is thinking out loud and fantasizing out loud he makes a fool of
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himself so he's fantasizing now publicly about joe biden demanding coming back that the democrats take
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him back it's whack it's just so whack um well you know she um i'm kind of partial to her i think
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she's doing great i think she is going to be president of the united states um the walls pick is going well
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uh up here kind of a rare event um justin trudeau and pierre polyevre actually had a lot of agreement
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this week on chinese electric vehicles on uh immigration it was kind of it was nice to see
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you know people saying more or less the same thing it's i think voters would appreciate that wouldn't
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they well they would appreciate it for a while but let's face it once they get into the cut thrust
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the campaign yeah yeah reasons to cut each other's uh throats a good piece by the way uh the government
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needs to take seriously whoever is in charge of government needs to take seriously what you
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talked about in post media and that's my setup to you uh to make a splash about this because because
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it matters thanks man yeah i know it's a piece uh two pages um took a while a lot of work just about
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um and i think it's important because you know the canada revenue agency has gone after the jewish
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national fund which is a hundred year old charity that has done fine work not just for jews but for
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non-jews as well for more than 100 years and um there are a number of charities i found who are
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pro-palestinian and they're allowed to be that god bless them but it looks like they're you know
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sending money on to organizations that the americans have said are terrorist or extremist and you know
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that's that's not right that that shouldn't be happening so that needs to be looked at so
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i got a story about that this week um but that you know in fairness to the trudeau guys this problem
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has existed for for many years going back to the harper years and before that too we um you know
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unlike the americans i find on the follow the money stuff that guys like you and me are so preoccupied
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with the americans are way better on this stuff than than us canadians i'm not sure why but you
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know in a more dangerous world i think we need to step it up but in in general over the years it
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doesn't really matter which uh cause in which country we're talking about uh you know you're a
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you're a proud irishman and i've got to tell you that when i lived in boston uh there were always
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old-time journalists who used to talk to me about how the ira raised money and they raised tons of
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it of course as you can imagine the boston area huge uh many irish expats living in boston and all
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over new england and of course in new york and the significant way that they raised money was through
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so-called irish charities they were charities but much of the money ended up in the hands of the ira
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you've just given me an idea for a follow-up story i'm gonna that's actually i i'm gonna chase
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that down because that is an excellent indicator of how we've had this problem for a while it's the
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easiest way to find cover for for many many causes in many countries uh find a charity undermine the
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charity and you know in gaza you know find a hospital find a school bury yourself inside the
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hospital or school and then when your opponent uh bombs naturally you're going to have uh you're going
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to have your your your shields your human shields dead and then try to get the world to focus on on
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the dead and not on the on the bad guys well said well said my friend thank you so much thank you for
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the birthday wishes we wish you um birthday wishes in advance we'll get obviously be talking to you in
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the next couple weeks and we look forward to celebrating that with you charles thank you all the
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best to you from our neighboring uh governor minnesota governor tim vance who wants to remind
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you that there's an expression that he's been using for years that every american and canadian
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have been using but nobody thought that this could be a meme and this is my favorite expression from
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governor walls the government needs to mind its own damn business
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here here brother thank you see you happy birthday
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excellent that was good i like it when we talk about non-political stuff
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yeah yeah yeah it's uh it's it's actually uh it's it's a good thing because it makes it makes us
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human i don't want to get into a whole rant about uh the punditocracy and all the rest of it but
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no no no in general it doesn't matter whether they're you know a local national internet whatever
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the fuck they think they are they're a bunch of no names not only aren't they bigger than the
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beetles they're no bigger than ants i think that's an expression that you use every now and then you
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know that that's what they are and one of the reasons they are that is because they have such an
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incredible like difficult time thinking of them thinking of themselves as human beings and just
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having some human conversation mixed in with the mixed in with the uh mixed in with the political
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but anyway on the on the walls thing uh you know it's it's an old uh political uh math thing
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that if you pick the right partner uh the two of you it's no different than music the two of you are
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bigger than the sum of of the parts so it with with with uh with the vance uh the bats the with
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harrison walls harrison walls are much larger now than just harrison walls and i still can't believe
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that uh the uh vance crowd you know and the trumps are going after walls's military it's so fucking
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stupid when the top of your ticket is is a guy who you know obviously uh had created some kind of toe
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problem or whatever his doctor uh bone spurs right when when the top of the ticket is corporal bone spurs
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uh you know accusing a guy who's in the national guard for 23 years oh but he happened to run for
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congress just before he was going to go to iraq i guess that makes him a deserter yeah yeah yeah way
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to go corporal barnspur i'm going to get inside to my female cousins who are waiting for me thanks for
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the past has got up and i guess there's no reason to try
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can't stop explaining myself out of this maybe complain just a little bit less i've lost all direction and i'll end up like all the rest
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with each day that passes i only fall from the behind
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to become so fast when you know that you're on your way down
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well no being on the roof of a 24 story building
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getting back to the point you made earlier though
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being 25 percent higher than they were three years ago
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don't tell them that the imf says we're doing great
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but food prices there are 25 to 30 percent higher than they were three years ago
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people still notice that they're looking at the bag of pasta and say
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oh my god i can't afford to to feed my family the way i want
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you know they're they're they're they're they're having to feel like cousin eddie
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don't know why they call it hamburger helper tastes just fine on its own
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so let's go but let's talk about the son of fidel castro here for a minute
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you sent me a poll this morning showing because poll showing the gap is still 20 points
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whatever the issue is it like trudeau's in trouble the immigration you know you got the alleged father and son thing
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i've got a piece in the paper this morning about you know abuse of charities they're going after jewish charities but leaving alone possibly extremist pro-palestinian ones
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um like he's just behind the eight ball on everything and again it may be because he's fidel castro's son i don't know but like it just now you're sounding like trump
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could be anything that's possible in this world
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uh i mean look uh we've all seen the photos and there's a striking similarity between a young trudeau and a young fidel castro
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but i think the math is that his mother margaret did not meet fidel castro until three years after trudeau was born something like that immaculate conception yeah yeah so um
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you know it's so stupid but like trump like trudeau's not on the ballot like what the fuck like dude stop attacking people start talking about policy that's how you can win this thing
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but he just can't help himself it's just always going after people instead of the policy piece
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well and trudeau is talking about policy and saying um i mean this week their dual message which i just find bizarre
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was you know if the conservatives get in they're going to ban abortion and take away your child care
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well okay uh that's kind of two opposites there but that's what they're going after
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um you know polyev has said neither they're they're trying to push on affordability with things like
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uh child care or seniors dental but i mean these are all programs that uh aren't working out the way that
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that they were promised wind just blew down part of the the chair i'm on um hang on there sailor
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don't disappear on us helps on the way so the dental program uh they they made canadians believe
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that it was free dental care for seniors it's not free uh a lot of dentists are not signing up for it
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because instead of uh working with the provinces who all have their own dental care programs instead
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of working with the provinces to expand that they said to the provinces no we're going to do our own
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and they invent this huge bureaucracy they invent a program uh setup that the reason the dentists aren't
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signing up is it's overly cumbersome takes a lot of time uh that costs them money uh and then seniors
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aren't getting the care they want and they're not getting it free like they were promised uh child
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care it's the same thing uh and the program is demand is outstripping what they have delivered on
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uh ontario is actually you know you're hearing some uh complaints about it but ontario is actually
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doing better because i know the guy that negotiated with the feds he used to be my boss jamie wallace
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when he was chief of staff for doug ford and he kept looking at what the other provinces were
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negotiating and said there is going to be a problem and that's why ontario was i believe the last to
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sign on wasn't because they were saying no to the the program they were demanding more from the feds
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because they could see the issues coming and now we've got you know wait lists and places saying that
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they can't cope um money not flowing from the feds properly you know so yeah you're going around
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talking about your programs but your programs aren't what you promised and they aren't as good
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as you promised so people people notice that just like they notice oh i can't afford a house like i used
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to uh and trudeau's going around talking about housing he's the least responsible for housing by the
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way the federal government has that least amount of responsibility but he talks about it more than
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anybody and and so he wears it brian lily up on the roof just be safe be safe come down come on down
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um thank you sir i really appreciate it have a great day uh i bet you're going to take hoey for a walk
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on that beautiful day that beautiful view you've got all a great day and a great week
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you think that i'm invincible it's gonna pull me down
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you think that i'm invincible it's gonna pull me down
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you think that i'm a miracle it's gonna pull me down
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i don't know what you want from me but it's probably already gone
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i don't care what you think of me your opinion means nothing at all
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i don't say i'm okay don't say i'm okay don't say i'm okay i'm not okay