kinsellacast - October 27, 2024


KINSELLACAST 333: Warren gets hardcore with Lilley, Kheiriddin, Mraz, Pierson, Belanger - plus Drug Church, Helmet, Western Addiction, Turnstile


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 12 minutes

Words per Minute

148.28381

Word Count

10,822

Sentence Count

141

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

75


Summary

Francesca Albanese is the United Nation's Special Rapporteur for Anti-Semitism in Palestine and she's coming to Canada in the next few days on a campus tour. She's an attractive Italian woman, a telegenic international lawyer, an academic, holds a PhD in law, and holds many academic awards of distinctions, but she's also a bigot. Her title is the UN's special rapporteur for anti-Semitism, but in reality she's not just an advocate for Palestine, she's an advocate against Jews in the Jewish state, and she devotes herself energetically to that unwritten part of her job description, "anti-Semitism."


Transcript

00:00:00.000 it's the Kinsella cast starring Warren Kinsella
00:00:09.060 hey it's Warren welcome to Kinsella cast I am up at the cabin where I've been editing and writing
00:00:24.340 and writing and editing and some of you know why and the rest of you are about to find out
00:00:29.160 and I've got a good show for you I do I do I've got Lily I've got Mraz Carradine Belanger Pearson
00:00:41.140 I think we're gonna have and I've got some great music I saw Drug Church when I was in Toronto this
00:00:47.660 week one of my favorite bands Pride of the Hudson Valley Pride of Albany New York and they're
00:00:53.300 hardcore so be prepared and I've got some similarly similar some some hardcore bands like them
00:01:02.760 and and I've got some thoughts for you my thoughts are about someone named Francesca Albanese
00:01:08.440 she is an attractive Italian woman telegenic international lawyer academic holds PhD in law
00:01:17.940 many academic awards of distinctions she's also a bigot her title is the United Nations Special
00:01:26.540 Rapporteur in Palestine but in reality she's not just an advocate for Palestine she's an advocate
00:01:32.140 against Jews in the Jewish state and she devotes herself energetically to that unwritten part of
00:01:39.720 her job description and and she's coming to Canada in the next few days she's having a campus tour
00:01:44.680 and one of the sponsors of her tour is Students for Justice in Palestine SJP there was a big lawsuit
00:01:53.240 filed against SJP in Virginia's district court back in May survivors of the October 7 Nova musical
00:02:00.300 festival massacre described the SJP as a mouthpiece for Hamas in North America dedicated to sanitizing
00:02:07.720 Hamas's atrocities and normalizing its terrorism so that's who she's hanging out with when she gets
00:02:14.660 here a group that oversaw multiple anti-semitic campus occupations across Canada for months
00:02:20.040 and which is called the October 7th slaughter a historic win for the Palestinian resistance so in
00:02:26.600 the coming days you're going to be hearing a lot of debate about the special rapporteur for anti-semitism
00:02:32.900 being welcomed at our places of higher learning and fair-minded people Jewish and non-Jewish are going to
00:02:38.740 attempt to stop her tour but they're likely going to fail because the parlor room bigots who run many of
00:02:45.380 our universities will invoke free speech as a defense so so let's look at that let's look at how she's
00:02:53.140 exercised her free speech and Hillel Neuer the brilliant leader of UN Watch who's Canadian by the
00:02:59.540 way has recently issued a big report on Albanese and her statements about Jews in the Jewish state
00:03:05.080 and here's just a sampling quote America is subjugated by the Jewish lobby end quote now there's just seven
00:03:11.220 words but it packs quite an impressive anti-semitic punch Jews depicted as a cunning foreign force check
00:03:18.760 Jews dismissed as a lobby group and not human beings check Jews exercising limitless invisible
00:03:25.280 powers maybe like Jewish laser beams as the Trump guys say over hapless North Americans check it's all
00:03:32.380 there here's another one the victims of October 7th were quote not killed because of their Judaism
00:03:38.420 but because of their reaction to Israel's oppression end quote she said that in a few months ago to
00:03:45.820 to Emmanuel Macron the president of France you know who helps pay her salary which is in the high six
00:03:53.740 figures lots of benefits she's also got her husband on the payroll but anyway that's a different story
00:03:58.280 that sounds like an indictable offense in Canada like section 318 of the code you're not allowed to
00:04:04.460 advocate or promote genocide if a Canadian said that they get prosecuted Albanese however is getting the
00:04:11.420 red carpet she's called Gaza quote the largest and most shameful concentration camp the 21st century
00:04:18.400 end quote and like so there she does two things one she commits Holocaust inversion where she accuses Jews
00:04:25.340 who are the little victims of Nazism of being Nazis and then she lied because the U.S. Population Research
00:04:32.820 Bureau has said the Palestinian population is among the highest in the world like it outstrips
00:04:38.880 Israel's by 35 percent every year like if that's a genocidal concentration camp it's not a very
00:04:46.020 effective one oh yeah she also participated in an official conference of Hamas like a listed terrorist
00:04:52.700 entity in Canada she did that November 2022 and here's what she said to them quote you have the right
00:04:58.940 to resist this occupation and occupation requires violence and generates violence end quote there's more
00:05:06.820 lots more but you get the drift Francesca Albanese is a bigot who openly justifies violence and acts of
00:05:14.260 terror that's offensive and that's an offense Canadian immigration law permits us to bar people who are
00:05:20.580 likely to come here to commit an offense like we've successfully done against neo-Nazis in the past
00:05:25.900 we should do likewise against Francesca Albanese she's coming here to legitimize hatred against Jews
00:05:33.120 and the Jewish state kick her out
00:05:36.480 first time in dress shoes
00:05:54.400 and you slip
00:05:56.400 new god puts his thumb in the petri dish
00:06:02.400 reddish
00:06:04.400 so you did a sloppy science now the simples can be trusted you slept this world back years
00:06:10.400 so you did a sloppy science now the simples can be trusted you slept this world back years
00:06:24.400 Now the samples can't be trusted
00:06:27.500 You suck this land back years
00:06:31.880 You've halted the march of progress
00:06:35.600 You did some sloppy sense
00:06:38.380 Now the samples can't be trusted
00:06:42.100 You suck this land back years
00:06:46.080 You've halted the march of progress
00:06:54.400 Closed to choose a career
00:06:59.400 When you're burning everything
00:07:04.400 Pay shit rates
00:07:08.400 Get shit labor
00:07:13.400 I should've started a chemical fire
00:07:18.400 So you did a sloppy science
00:07:22.400 Now the samples can't be trusted
00:07:26.400 You suck this land back years
00:07:30.400 You've halted the march of progress
00:07:33.400 You did a sloppy science
00:07:36.400 Now all the samples can't be trusted
00:07:40.400 You suck this land back years
00:07:44.400 You've halted the march of progress
00:07:48.400 Give your soil samples
00:07:52.400 That's a decade of collecting data
00:07:56.400 Fuck you
00:08:01.400 At 1250 an hour
00:08:04.400 I should've started a chemical fire
00:08:08.400 I should've burned this fucking place to the ground
00:08:14.400 To the ground
00:08:16.400 To the ground
00:08:18.400 To the ground
00:08:20.400 To the ground
00:08:26.400 First time in dress shoes
00:08:28.400 And you slip
00:08:30.400 And you slip
00:08:31.400 And you slip
00:08:34.400 You got put system in the petri dish
00:08:37.400 Stained lab coat
00:08:43.400 With weed gin
00:08:45.400 You got dragged off of the premises
00:08:55.400 And you get pure
00:08:56.400 To the ground
00:08:57.400 By salt
00:08:58.400 And you get moving
00:09:05.400 on, in the Vampire
00:09:07.400 Day
00:09:10.400 I can choose a career
00:09:16.400 When you're bad at everything
00:09:23.400 I can choose a career
00:09:30.400 When you're bad at everything
00:09:40.400 And we're back. And Brian, I wish to resign from this podcast, but I'm not going to give you the letter. I'm not going to sign it. I'm not going to tell you what I'm thinking, but I'm just going to resign. That works, doesn't it?
00:10:05.100 Sure. Yeah. The people behind this revolt that Justin Trudeau faced
00:10:12.800 Are revolting?
00:10:14.780 It appears they couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.
00:10:20.580 Although some of them are saying, now coming out, like Wayne Long saying
00:10:24.040 He flipped as the bird and others are starting to chirp. We'll see if the fact that Trudeau, you know, they apparently gave until Monday. And the next day he said, I'm staying. I'm not going anywhere.
00:10:37.420 So we'll see if it may embolden some of them.
00:10:41.340 Because, I mean, so far, the thing that I heard from MPs who have been frustrated but weren't joining the rebellion is that they're annoyed that there's no plan there.
00:10:57.960 They're annoyed that they've been promised things like an ad campaign to promote themselves and to attack Paliyev, and that's not there.
00:11:06.880 That they've been told there's going to be fresh faces or a new agenda or a new direction. That's not there.
00:11:13.880 So far, all they've come up with is this decision to reverse course on immigration, which probably doesn't do enough to repair their reputations, and puts them in the odd position of doing what they were calling everyone who proposed it racist before, and now they're proposing it.
00:11:39.480 Well, let's break those down into two digestible parts.
00:11:43.880 Right. As two guys, two really smart, good-looking guys, Brian Lillian, Warren Kinsella, were saying for the days leading up to this so-called revolt, it's Shakespearean.
00:11:54.580 If you take a swing at the king, you better make sure you kill him. And number two, if you fail, you're going to strengthen his position.
00:12:00.640 Have they not strengthened his position? Doesn't that make it harder for him to leave now?
00:12:06.940 Yeah, because they missed. They completely missed.
00:12:09.880 And now it will just be, oh, the guys that couldn't win are still upset and still chirping at Trudeau.
00:12:20.280 You know, is that a good narrative for them?
00:12:23.080 Probably not.
00:12:23.980 But that's all they're going to have left.
00:12:27.860 And so Trudeau is going to remain comfortable.
00:12:33.280 I don't know that he will do all the work that MPs say needs to be done to turn things around.
00:12:40.720 And I'm still of the belief that they can turn things around.
00:12:43.860 Latest advocacy poll still has the Conservatives up 22 points, but campaigns matter, voters are fickle, all of that.
00:12:52.560 And we're a year to go.
00:12:54.200 In fact, we are, it was two days ago, I think, is the date that we're supposed to go to an election.
00:13:00.300 Did they change it to the 25th or is it still the 19th?
00:13:03.560 I think they changed it to accommodate the pension stuff.
00:13:06.380 Yeah, well, I think we'll both have to confirm that.
00:13:09.720 But I do want to note that it was October 25th, 10 years ago, that our former colleague and friend, Mark Dunn, CP and the Ottawa Citizen and the Sun News Network passed away.
00:13:24.440 Great man.
00:13:25.800 I've still got his dictionary sitting on my bookshelf next to me right here.
00:13:30.140 And he would have laughed at the silliness going on right now.
00:13:34.120 So anything can happen over the next year.
00:13:40.260 But Trudeau hasn't shown that he's putting in the work to turn things around.
00:13:46.080 He's making some changes, like going on podcasts.
00:13:52.520 You'll notice that down south, Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are both employing this tactic.
00:14:01.040 Podcasts have big listenership, as you know.
00:14:04.120 And they've decided, okay, we're going to bypass the traditional media.
00:14:09.320 It's odd that Trudeau is doing that.
00:14:12.520 But that's part of his strategy now, too.
00:14:14.980 Well, Justin Trudeau, if you're listening to Brian and I, I will, if you come on this podcast and debate us, I will come and work for you for free and devise a strategy to destroy Parapallia.
00:14:27.220 There you go.
00:14:27.900 Public statement.
00:14:29.740 And a little bit silly.
00:14:31.180 Also silly, I thought, was the immigration announcement that these guys made.
00:14:37.620 I thought it was an effort to change the channel from his troubles the day before.
00:14:42.640 The changes go out to 2027, which, you know, he's not going to be in power.
00:14:47.980 Like, why, Miranda, I guess I want to go at this in a backwards way.
00:14:51.620 Why did anybody take this thing seriously?
00:14:53.940 Are you talking about the liberals taking the issue of bringing in people faster than we can absorb them?
00:15:01.660 Those of us in the media.
00:15:02.780 There's the Globe and Mail and the Toronto Star front page next day, you know, dutifully reporting on this immigration change that Trudeau and Miller announced.
00:15:14.180 None of which I think they mean.
00:15:15.640 And all of which is not going to be implemented.
00:15:18.600 Why did people take it seriously when it was just so obviously a very cynical play by this very cynical government?
00:15:26.560 Everything this government does is cynical.
00:15:28.860 I mean, look at the other big part of their strategy.
00:15:32.760 It's to say the real problem with foreign interference is Pierre Polyev and his security clearance, that he won't get them.
00:15:42.180 I counted it up.
00:15:43.060 The liberals raised, they used the word, the phrase security clearance or clearance in relation to Polyev 16 times on Wednesday.
00:15:52.480 Eight of those were by Trudeau.
00:15:54.420 Another eight were by questions or statements made by liberal MPs.
00:15:58.540 Oh, my God.
00:15:59.120 That was just during question period on Tuesday.
00:16:01.140 And we've seen all of the videos like Karina Gold saying, oh, looks like he can't pass one.
00:16:09.420 Looks like he's afraid of what they might find.
00:16:14.780 And they're basing it on comments that Michael Chong made that he said, no, I was just speculating.
00:16:22.400 And Polyev has said, no, it's not true.
00:16:24.500 They're trying to, this is their strategy now, is deflect and say the real problem with foreign interference is Pierre Polyev.
00:16:33.320 Well, a couple of problems with that.
00:16:35.940 One, Justin Trudeau has known about foreign interference issues since 2019 and done sweet fuck all about them.
00:16:43.840 And two, Polyev keeps saying, release all the names of any MP involved.
00:16:51.720 Trudeau's response since 2019 has been to do everything possible to keep this secret, including when he was on the stand, he said, oh, no, Polyev could read this report.
00:17:04.740 Because part of Polyev's argument is if I read the report, I'm handcuffed, I can't talk about it properly, and I can't act either if I find out there are problems.
00:17:14.360 And Trudeau says, oh, no, he can't act.
00:17:16.320 He can just lie to the public.
00:17:18.740 And he encouraged, you know, dealing with foreign interference by keeping it secret and lying.
00:17:25.520 So neither the immigration issue and how he's handled it nor the foreign interference one appear to be serious.
00:17:34.740 And on immigration, they at least admitted that they've made a mistake.
00:17:41.400 The unfortunate part is that they tried to blame everyone else.
00:17:46.020 They said that this was on provinces.
00:17:48.000 This was on colleges.
00:17:49.880 This was on the business community.
00:17:52.860 I think that's why a lot of people weren't taking it seriously.
00:17:56.720 Sure, you admit we brought in people too fast.
00:18:00.100 Trudeau admitted that last April.
00:18:01.540 I think it was April 1st or 2nd.
00:18:03.020 And he said, we are bringing in people faster than we can absorb them.
00:18:06.500 And then he waits until October 24th to make an announcement of what they're going to do about it.
00:18:13.100 Yeah, it's not serious.
00:18:14.480 And, you know, yet more evidence of their lack of seriousness.
00:18:17.220 And if they cared about national security, they wouldn't be sending out two of their most senior people to brief a Washington Post reporter.
00:18:23.220 Can I comment on that?
00:18:26.700 Of course.
00:18:27.780 He said during his testimony, he called the people who leaked to the globe and global news criminals for putting the information about Chinese foreign interference out there.
00:18:37.540 And yet he had his national security advisor and David Morrison, a man who has failed upwards, it seems.
00:18:48.420 He was the foreign national security advisor who missed everything and then was promoted to deputy minister of global affairs.
00:18:55.680 Those were the two that ended up briefing the Washington Post and they got info that was never released by the RCMP or the government to the public.
00:19:05.860 So are they now criminals?
00:19:07.640 Yeah, it's ridiculous.
00:19:10.600 Final thing, you know, Abacus has developed this excellent news management technique of dropping big polls on Sundays.
00:19:19.860 So we all talk about it going into the new week.
00:19:22.560 They've done it again with a new poll showing federal liberals still 22 points behind, which means they're only being kept alive by the province of Quebec.
00:19:32.300 They're running behind the NDP and the rest of the country.
00:19:34.940 All that's protecting them is endangered species laws at this point.
00:19:39.720 What do you think could change this at this point?
00:19:42.200 You and I were talking about Christy Clark earlier in the week.
00:19:44.720 I think she'd be a good pick for the liberals, you know, female, Western, experience with power, center, center right, liberal.
00:19:52.800 Can anything change the outcome at this point when it's 22 points?
00:19:58.400 I think it'd be a poison chalice for anyone taking over.
00:20:01.400 You know, as much as I say anything can happen, it would be a tough haul for anyone to go in and turn it around.
00:20:10.220 It's too big again.
00:20:11.020 But I see someone like Christy Clark or someone who is a centrist, you know, in the tradition of a Gretchen is much more of a threat than, say, going to Melanie Jolie or Christy Freeland or Mark Carney.
00:20:28.400 Although the new episode of the Full Comment podcast coming out tomorrow with John Iveson, and he does make an argument that Carney is much more centrist than Trudeau.
00:20:39.660 I'm not sure, but Carney did work well with Jim Flaherty and the late Jim Flaherty and Stephen Harper when they were in office.
00:20:46.140 So perhaps there's some merit to that.
00:20:48.320 But, you know, Trudeau did his interview with Village Media.
00:20:53.200 No, I'm not leaving.
00:20:54.440 So, you know, I think we're playing a parlor guessing game.
00:20:58.860 Yeah, we sure are.
00:20:59.860 And it's not how you run a country.
00:21:02.380 But, Brian Lilly, thank you so much, my friend, for your insight as always.
00:21:07.300 Hope you and yours have an amazing day, amazing weekend, an amazing week.
00:21:12.480 Thank you, sir.
00:21:13.440 Talk soon.
00:21:13.860 Talk soon.
00:21:13.880 Talk soon.
00:21:13.920 Talk soon.
00:21:18.320 Talk soon.
00:21:48.320 Talk soon.
00:22:18.320 Talk soon.
00:22:48.320 Talk soon.
00:23:18.300 In the meantime
00:23:48.300 In the meantime
00:24:06.740 In the meantime
00:24:14.420 In the meantime
00:24:14.980 This is CFRA Live
00:24:22.660 Sunday Political Panel
00:24:24.400 And welcome to it
00:24:28.140 This morning on our Sunday CFRA Live
00:24:30.020 Sunday Political Panel
00:24:30.860 Joining us on the phone
00:24:32.100 Tasha Karanen
00:24:32.860 Political columnist for the National Post
00:24:34.280 Writer for GZERO Media
00:24:35.360 And an author
00:24:36.060 Tasha, good morning
00:24:37.060 Good morning
00:24:38.320 Warren Kinsalija is a strategist
00:24:40.280 And Post Media columnist
00:24:41.380 You can read his latest in the Toronto Sun
00:24:43.080 Warren, good morning
00:24:43.800 Morning guys
00:24:45.060 And happy Sunday to President
00:24:46.520 At Traction Strategies
00:24:47.540 He is Carl Belanger
00:24:48.520 Happy Sunday, Carl
00:24:49.580 Good morning everyone
00:24:51.080 I'm still working on my coffee here
00:24:52.600 Just make note of this
00:24:53.680 But a few things I wanted to talk to you guys about
00:24:55.840 First of all
00:24:56.840 Just this immigration U-turn
00:24:58.000 Just a big policy move
00:24:59.260 From the Trudeau government this week
00:25:00.700 In terms of moving away
00:25:01.680 From their previous promises
00:25:03.100 This has been kind of a big staple
00:25:04.860 Of the Trudeau government
00:25:06.160 Since it first came into power here
00:25:07.740 So wondering just
00:25:09.060 A couple of things here
00:25:10.480 Warren, I'll start with you
00:25:11.580 I think there is a lot of politics at play
00:25:13.880 Everybody can kind of agree
00:25:14.900 In this kind of sphere right now
00:25:16.460 But just kind of wondering
00:25:17.440 Why now for the Trudeau government
00:25:18.980 To admit defeat on this issue
00:25:20.380 When you know
00:25:20.860 Everything else is going wrong
00:25:22.020 Do you see kind of an answer to that
00:25:23.640 In any way, shape or form?
00:25:24.640 Yeah, it's politics
00:25:27.100 You know, if Poliev had said
00:25:30.820 Even half of what Trudeau said this week
00:25:33.560 And it was all done to
00:25:35.300 I think change the channel
00:25:36.780 From the caucus revolts
00:25:38.260 Which we'll probably be talking about later
00:25:40.200 You know, it's not honest
00:25:44.380 It's not sincere
00:25:45.440 If Poliev had done it
00:25:46.800 Trudeau would have been calling him
00:25:47.900 A neo-Nazi
00:25:48.680 Like, this is a complete
00:25:52.100 Like, Trudeau should have whiplash
00:25:54.160 From doing the reversal
00:25:55.680 He's done here
00:25:56.380 That's number one
00:25:57.240 But number two
00:25:58.120 To your point
00:25:59.820 Like, it goes out to 2027
00:26:02.820 These guys are not going to be
00:26:04.340 In government in 2027
00:26:06.120 It is meaningless
00:26:07.380 But I give them credit
00:26:08.840 They rolled a shiny ball
00:26:10.700 Down the middle of the floor
00:26:11.980 And all of us chased it
00:26:13.820 And took it seriously
00:26:15.020 And I don't think we need
00:26:15.940 To take it seriously at all
00:26:17.560 Has public opinion
00:26:19.120 Across the Western world
00:26:20.660 Shifted on immigration?
00:26:22.060 For sure
00:26:22.640 That's why Donald Trump
00:26:23.760 Is competitive
00:26:24.500 In the closing days
00:26:26.080 Of the U.S. presidential
00:26:27.140 That's why you're seeing
00:26:28.060 Far-right governments
00:26:29.120 Elected in Europe
00:26:30.420 That's one of the reasons
00:26:31.840 Why Pierre Poliev
00:26:32.660 Is so popular
00:26:33.300 For sure
00:26:33.920 But, you know
00:26:35.300 Justin Trudeau being
00:26:36.900 The vehicle for fixing it?
00:26:39.100 I don't think so
00:26:39.820 And Tasha
00:26:40.820 As kind of Warren alluded to there
00:26:42.240 Pierre Poliev
00:26:42.860 Obviously all over this
00:26:44.280 In terms of the reversal on this
00:26:45.740 And kind of
00:26:46.140 It's one of his issues
00:26:46.920 That he's been hitting hard on
00:26:48.080 As well here
00:26:49.460 I guess from the perspective
00:26:51.740 Of I was just thinking
00:26:52.560 About the reverse course
00:26:53.820 You know
00:26:54.380 Doug Ford
00:26:55.140 In terms of the Premier here
00:26:56.100 It's something that
00:26:56.920 He has traditionally done
00:26:57.840 We've seen several times
00:26:58.860 That apology
00:26:59.500 And switching course
00:27:00.260 And something he's done
00:27:00.900 But to me
00:27:01.720 It feels like
00:27:02.140 We rarely kind of see this
00:27:03.560 From the Trudeau government
00:27:04.300 So what do you make
00:27:05.380 Of kind of the timing
00:27:06.160 On this specific U-term
00:27:07.220 And policy
00:27:08.040 If you have any thoughts
00:27:09.160 Well this U-term
00:27:10.920 Has been coming for a while
00:27:11.980 I mean this year
00:27:12.800 There's been changes
00:27:13.960 That Mark Miller announced earlier
00:27:15.680 To policies on foreign students
00:27:18.480 There's been a lot of talk about it
00:27:21.460 And I think the reason is twofold
00:27:23.220 I think it is politics
00:27:24.200 The timing of it
00:27:25.140 Everything else
00:27:25.640 I agree with Warren said
00:27:26.600 But it's also because
00:27:29.100 This is actually
00:27:30.380 I think
00:27:30.880 One of the biggest failures
00:27:32.540 And one of the worst legacies
00:27:34.240 This government
00:27:34.780 Is going to leave this country with
00:27:36.180 Which is
00:27:36.600 Now we don't like immigration
00:27:38.600 Canada's been a very
00:27:40.400 Pro-immigration country
00:27:41.380 For its history
00:27:42.540 And we were built on immigration
00:27:43.960 And for Trudeau
00:27:46.000 To mismanage it
00:27:47.460 The way they did
00:27:48.360 Is
00:27:49.340 It's abhorrent
00:27:50.460 Now people
00:27:51.440 You know
00:27:51.860 Most people now think
00:27:52.800 We have too many immigrants
00:27:53.640 Slow it down
00:27:54.540 And they're right
00:27:55.380 We have to
00:27:56.000 But the reasons for it
00:27:57.260 There's some xenophobia
00:27:58.540 There's the stuff
00:27:59.520 Warren was alluding to
00:28:00.400 It's really
00:28:01.120 We didn't need that in Canada
00:28:02.900 We didn't need to follow
00:28:03.800 The rest of the world
00:28:04.420 Example on this
00:28:05.340 But we're going there
00:28:06.880 And thanks a lot
00:28:08.100 It's because
00:28:08.820 They let in too many people
00:28:10.440 Too fast
00:28:11.040 And then we had a housing crunch
00:28:12.280 We have
00:28:13.880 You know
00:28:14.600 An economy
00:28:15.240 That's still
00:28:15.920 Sputtering along
00:28:17.000 But people don't have
00:28:17.900 Unemployment's up now too
00:28:19.540 Inflation was hot
00:28:20.740 Like
00:28:20.940 It was the perfect storm
00:28:22.100 And they screwed it up
00:28:24.000 And so now they're trying
00:28:25.080 To fix it overnight
00:28:25.800 But yeah
00:28:26.240 It's not going to get fixed
00:28:27.140 It's done
00:28:27.800 Because they realize
00:28:28.560 That's the issue
00:28:29.580 Driving almost everything else
00:28:31.160 That's driving their poll members
00:28:32.460 Into the ground
00:28:33.040 Very interesting point
00:28:34.920 In many senses
00:28:35.740 Right
00:28:36.000 With the issues
00:28:36.760 That Canadians are dealing
00:28:37.540 Right now
00:28:37.840 There is a lot of anger
00:28:38.660 Out there
00:28:38.980 But is there something
00:28:39.620 To be said about
00:28:40.280 You know
00:28:41.760 Canadians turning on this issue
00:28:43.780 Where they have
00:28:44.280 Traditionally been supportive of
00:28:45.760 Carl
00:28:46.540 I guess
00:28:46.980 Obviously politics
00:28:48.160 Involved here
00:28:48.680 Because we're talking
00:28:49.340 About politics
00:28:50.000 But were you surprised
00:28:51.240 To see such a sudden
00:28:52.160 U-turn on something
00:28:52.920 That has been a staple
00:28:53.840 Of the Trudeau government
00:28:54.680 I was not surprised
00:28:56.820 Because they've made
00:28:57.860 Some moves
00:28:58.560 On other categories
00:28:59.560 Of newcomers
00:29:01.400 We saw them
00:29:02.740 On the temporary
00:29:03.540 Foreign workers
00:29:04.360 Making announcements
00:29:05.120 We saw them
00:29:05.840 On international students
00:29:07.020 Reducing number of visas
00:29:08.600 So they've been
00:29:09.920 Trending in that direction
00:29:12.100 For quite some time
00:29:13.640 But to be fair
00:29:15.200 To the Trudeau government
00:29:16.200 You know
00:29:17.760 At the time
00:29:18.220 When they increased
00:29:18.960 Target
00:29:19.340 They were responding
00:29:20.980 To premiers
00:29:21.720 Who were begging them
00:29:23.080 To open up
00:29:24.200 Because of the labor shortages
00:29:25.600 That they were seeing
00:29:27.420 In their provinces
00:29:28.180 And you know
00:29:29.180 With the exception
00:29:29.700 Of Quebec
00:29:30.200 Who's always been offside
00:29:31.840 You know
00:29:33.040 As late as last spring
00:29:35.340 Premier Smith
00:29:35.980 From Alberta
00:29:36.480 Was running
00:29:36.980 The Trudeau government
00:29:37.860 To help them
00:29:39.020 To bring in newcomers
00:29:41.400 To fix their labor shortages
00:29:43.520 In key industries
00:29:44.340 So it seemed
00:29:45.800 That they've been
00:29:46.380 Kind of behind the times
00:29:48.420 You know
00:29:48.740 Trying to play catch up
00:29:49.960 For quite some time
00:29:51.020 On this
00:29:51.520 And so they went
00:29:52.580 With big targets
00:29:55.200 Big numbers
00:29:56.040 Bringing people
00:29:56.960 Too fast
00:29:58.480 Too fast
00:29:59.300 To respond
00:29:59.920 To the problem
00:30:00.960 And now
00:30:02.160 We are seeing
00:30:02.900 The end result
00:30:03.560 Where you know
00:30:05.600 Provinces are saying
00:30:06.600 We can't keep up
00:30:08.080 And you know
00:30:09.800 Housing can't keep up
00:30:11.080 The school system
00:30:12.480 Can't keep up
00:30:13.240 Health care
00:30:13.640 Can't keep up
00:30:14.800 And what's unfortunate
00:30:15.620 Of course
00:30:16.180 Is that
00:30:16.520 Immigration has become
00:30:18.660 A political football
00:30:19.780 And back in the 70s
00:30:21.820 And 80s
00:30:22.340 It was you know
00:30:23.160 Immigrants are coming here
00:30:24.800 To steal our jobs
00:30:25.720 And now it's
00:30:26.640 Immigrants are coming here
00:30:27.500 To take our housing
00:30:28.320 And they're coming here
00:30:29.140 To take our
00:30:29.660 Space in classrooms
00:30:31.740 And you know
00:30:32.440 Doctors
00:30:32.860 I mean
00:30:33.620 The rhetoric
00:30:34.960 Is very bad
00:30:36.460 And it's especially
00:30:38.240 True in Quebec
00:30:38.980 Where Premier Legault
00:30:39.860 Was saying
00:30:40.460 To the Bloc Quebecois
00:30:41.960 Bring down this government
00:30:43.540 Because of immigration
00:30:44.500 That needs to be
00:30:45.400 The ballot box question
00:30:46.380 Nothing good
00:30:47.900 Can come out of it
00:30:48.760 You mentioned too
00:30:50.040 Like some provinces
00:30:51.220 Very on side with this
00:30:52.040 You know New Brunswick
00:30:52.700 Is raising its hand
00:30:53.420 Right now
00:30:53.840 And wondering
00:30:54.480 About the potential
00:30:55.460 Impacts there
00:30:56.200 The Canadian Chamber
00:30:56.940 Of Commerce
00:30:57.420 Among those as well
00:30:58.380 I guess
00:30:58.960 Tasha
00:30:59.820 Could we see
00:31:00.320 A potential economic
00:31:01.380 Impact to this
00:31:02.120 That's maybe
00:31:02.620 Perhaps not
00:31:03.280 What we were expecting
00:31:03.920 I think we're expecting
00:31:04.880 It to ease pressures
00:31:05.780 A lot of economists
00:31:06.960 Are saying that
00:31:07.500 But there could be
00:31:08.000 Some unintended
00:31:08.460 Consequences
00:31:09.160 In terms of
00:31:09.660 The labour market
00:31:10.240 Well unintended
00:31:11.680 There will be
00:31:12.500 Consequences for universities
00:31:14.220 There will be
00:31:14.660 Consequences in certain
00:31:15.800 Sectors of the labour market
00:31:16.880 Yeah
00:31:17.240 But I think
00:31:18.320 Overall
00:31:19.240 You're seeing
00:31:19.960 Like I said
00:31:20.480 The unemployment rate
00:31:21.380 In Toronto
00:31:21.940 Is over 7%
00:31:23.020 There are more people
00:31:24.120 Than there are jobs
00:31:24.900 The idea was
00:31:26.360 And Trudeau's not
00:31:27.160 Completely wrong on this
00:31:28.360 Yes
00:31:28.580 I mean
00:31:28.980 Obviously there was a cry
00:31:30.180 Human cry for workers
00:31:31.360 After the pandemic
00:31:32.220 But that was driven
00:31:33.840 By the fact
00:31:34.340 That Canadians
00:31:34.860 No longer wanted
00:31:35.600 To take certain jobs
00:31:36.680 Not because
00:31:37.560 The jobs
00:31:38.820 There weren't enough
00:31:39.520 People to fill them
00:31:40.360 There weren't enough
00:31:40.780 Willing people
00:31:41.840 To go back to restaurants
00:31:43.380 To work in hospitality
00:31:44.500 To work in a bunch of jobs
00:31:46.280 That you know
00:31:47.100 Are not necessarily
00:31:47.660 The best paid
00:31:48.400 And then after the pandemic
00:31:49.700 When people were on
00:31:50.460 Serb for two years
00:31:51.300 They said
00:31:51.660 Ha!
00:31:52.240 No
00:31:52.540 So those sectors
00:31:53.680 Were scrambling
00:31:54.840 And the construction sector
00:31:57.220 Lots of students
00:31:59.280 You know
00:32:00.100 Were working part time
00:32:01.380 In construction
00:32:01.960 Instead of studying
00:32:02.680 You saw crews
00:32:03.740 Of people around Toronto
00:32:04.600 You go anywhere
00:32:05.180 You will see lots of crews
00:32:06.400 Of people from India
00:32:07.860 In particular
00:32:08.540 Who came in
00:32:09.600 Under student visas
00:32:10.400 Probably
00:32:10.860 And are working
00:32:11.660 In construction
00:32:12.580 Because we needed people
00:32:13.900 To build homes
00:32:14.600 Right?
00:32:15.040 That whole piece
00:32:15.680 So yeah
00:32:16.820 There were pressures
00:32:17.580 On the government
00:32:18.160 But they didn't take
00:32:19.180 The bird's eye view
00:32:20.120 They just
00:32:20.400 They responded
00:32:20.960 To the pressures
00:32:21.500 Here there and everywhere
00:32:22.320 As opposed to saying
00:32:23.160 Here's what's going to happen
00:32:24.040 If we do this
00:32:25.020 On a large scale
00:32:26.340 It's going to be a mess
00:32:27.780 And they didn't have
00:32:29.220 The foresight to do that
00:32:30.060 It was very electoralist
00:32:31.080 It was very client
00:32:31.700 You know
00:32:32.220 Client politics
00:32:33.040 There you go
00:32:33.700 We're going to
00:32:34.740 We're going to make
00:32:35.240 Some people happy
00:32:36.040 But now nobody's happy
00:32:37.540 Thanks a lot
00:32:38.400 And just the
00:32:39.680 Last one to you Warren
00:32:40.780 Just on this issue
00:32:41.480 Just the politics
00:32:42.360 That we're kind of
00:32:42.860 Talking about here
00:32:43.440 Unintended consequences
00:32:44.580 This does seem like
00:32:45.400 A short term political game
00:32:46.940 For the liberals
00:32:47.400 Could it be a long term pain
00:32:48.740 In terms of some of the
00:32:49.700 Economic impacts
00:32:50.580 We could see
00:32:51.140 Or do you think
00:32:52.000 That might be a little
00:32:52.600 Bit overblown as well
00:32:53.500 No I don't think
00:32:54.880 It's overblown
00:32:55.520 And you know
00:32:56.160 I consulted my panel
00:32:57.460 Of experts
00:32:58.100 Which is the guy
00:32:59.600 You know
00:33:00.160 Who runs the pizza place
00:33:02.020 That I go to
00:33:02.860 In Toronto
00:33:03.640 And he said to me
00:33:05.540 I can't get anybody
00:33:06.640 To work now
00:33:07.440 Because they've all
00:33:08.620 Had their hours cut back
00:33:10.020 So you know
00:33:11.220 Get prepared
00:33:11.860 For a $50 pizza
00:33:13.320 And then I've talked
00:33:15.040 To my clients
00:33:16.540 I've had the honor
00:33:17.720 Of representing
00:33:18.360 A big big trade union
00:33:19.960 For many years
00:33:21.380 And in good times
00:33:23.860 They've had difficulty
00:33:24.940 Getting workers
00:33:25.940 To build that housing
00:33:27.540 You know
00:33:28.320 To build those buildings
00:33:29.520 Now it's going to be
00:33:30.900 Even worse
00:33:31.560 And that's going to
00:33:32.420 Cost more too
00:33:33.440 Like everything
00:33:34.620 Flows downhill
00:33:35.580 This is the
00:33:36.140 You know
00:33:36.300 The idiocy of
00:33:37.120 Trump's position
00:33:37.900 On tariffs
00:33:38.680 He thinks that
00:33:39.520 China's going to pay it
00:33:40.460 It's like
00:33:40.780 No
00:33:41.320 China's not going to pay it
00:33:42.500 The consumer's going to pay it
00:33:43.840 Because the consumer
00:33:44.400 Always pays it
00:33:45.380 The same thing
00:33:46.360 Happens here
00:33:47.060 It's short term gain
00:33:48.500 For long term pain
00:33:49.500 Same thing with that
00:33:50.760 No income tax proposal
00:33:51.820 I wonder how that'll go
00:33:52.940 South of the border
00:33:53.720 But switching gears
00:33:56.180 A little bit this week
00:33:56.920 Obviously more talk
00:33:58.000 About you know
00:33:58.720 The caucus revolt
00:33:59.700 That kind of wasn't here
00:34:00.820 You know
00:34:01.380 There was a lot of talk
00:34:02.000 Ahead of this
00:34:02.380 National caucus meeting
00:34:03.180 On Wednesday
00:34:03.660 About you know
00:34:04.460 This is going to be
00:34:05.100 The time
00:34:05.500 There's going to be
00:34:06.000 A move here
00:34:06.600 You know
00:34:07.080 At the end of it
00:34:07.860 Everybody was kind of
00:34:08.660 Coming out
00:34:09.080 And talking a unified front
00:34:10.420 Even those that were
00:34:11.180 Kind of against
00:34:11.720 The prime minister
00:34:12.340 Saying that
00:34:12.880 You know
00:34:13.340 They were kind of
00:34:13.860 Over it at this point
00:34:14.920 I was kind of
00:34:15.780 Wondering from a
00:34:16.280 Political perspective
00:34:17.420 Here
00:34:17.880 And Carl
00:34:18.240 I'll start with you
00:34:18.680 Maybe
00:34:18.860 The idea of
00:34:20.360 Is this the idea
00:34:21.780 That there is
00:34:22.400 A unified front
00:34:23.220 Or is this the idea
00:34:24.140 That backbenchers
00:34:24.980 Are realizing
00:34:25.480 That they really
00:34:26.100 Have no power
00:34:26.820 Or mechanism
00:34:27.420 In this situation
00:34:28.380 Yeah
00:34:30.000 I think they come
00:34:30.680 To that realization
00:34:31.580 And their attempt
00:34:32.720 To push Trudeau
00:34:33.480 Out failed
00:34:34.080 And it failed
00:34:35.020 Because they were
00:34:35.520 Not organized
00:34:36.240 Behind an actual
00:34:39.100 Candidate
00:34:39.620 To replace him
00:34:40.380 And when you
00:34:41.700 Ask them
00:34:42.260 You know
00:34:42.780 Who
00:34:43.340 If not Trudeau
00:34:44.620 Who
00:34:44.940 There's no clear answer
00:34:46.400 And that's part
00:34:47.340 Of the problem
00:34:47.900 But at the end
00:34:49.260 Of the day
00:34:49.700 You know
00:34:50.160 They lacked
00:34:51.220 The panache
00:34:53.620 That they needed
00:34:54.180 To bring him down
00:34:55.180 And they lacked
00:34:56.080 The courage
00:34:56.620 To do so as well
00:34:58.460 I mean
00:34:58.780 You sign an anonymous
00:35:00.100 Letter
00:35:00.500 You know
00:35:01.900 You won't speak
00:35:02.720 Out publicly
00:35:03.360 You won't put
00:35:04.160 Your name out there
00:35:05.700 Except for a few
00:35:06.600 People that
00:35:07.220 Most Canadians
00:35:08.440 Have never heard about
00:35:09.440 So there was
00:35:11.620 A clear lack
00:35:12.280 Of
00:35:12.860 Kind of momentum
00:35:14.860 To bring him down
00:35:16.100 And you know
00:35:16.920 24 people
00:35:17.980 Out of the
00:35:19.960 Caucus
00:35:20.340 Over 150
00:35:21.420 That's like 15%
00:35:22.720 Well 15%
00:35:24.340 Of caucus
00:35:24.780 That's unhappy
00:35:25.400 My friend
00:35:25.940 Warren Kinsella
00:35:26.540 Would say
00:35:27.760 It was a good day
00:35:29.060 Under Jean Chrétien
00:35:29.880 Just another Tuesday
00:35:32.980 Or something
00:35:33.440 But
00:35:34.040 The ideal war
00:35:35.780 In that sense
00:35:36.800 I guess
00:35:37.120 You've also
00:35:38.680 A lot of experience
00:35:39.580 From the Liberal
00:35:40.080 Caucus too
00:35:40.580 So I'm wondering
00:35:41.020 How much weight
00:35:41.600 The remaining
00:35:42.240 Backbenchers really have
00:35:43.280 Of course
00:35:43.560 Cabinet has some
00:35:44.340 Power here
00:35:44.840 But do you think
00:35:45.680 This was a realization
00:35:46.600 In the room
00:35:47.560 That really
00:35:48.400 There's nothing
00:35:48.740 We could do
00:35:49.100 About this
00:35:49.580 Well let's put
00:35:50.620 Ourselves inside
00:35:51.520 The room
00:35:51.980 So there
00:35:52.620 They all were
00:35:53.880 And there was
00:35:54.820 Justin Trudeau
00:35:55.620 At the front
00:35:56.140 With his hanky
00:35:56.840 Because apparently
00:35:57.460 He was shedding
00:35:58.280 A few tears
00:35:59.200 And then they
00:36:00.320 Approach him
00:36:01.000 With their letter
00:36:01.720 And here you go
00:36:03.120 Justin
00:36:03.580 And you know
00:36:04.520 We kind of
00:36:05.120 Sort of maybe
00:36:05.740 Want you to go
00:36:06.600 And here's the letter
00:36:07.820 That none of us
00:36:08.880 Have signed
00:36:09.700 Like what
00:36:10.940 You know
00:36:11.620 All of us
00:36:12.200 Get lots of letters
00:36:13.320 From angry people
00:36:14.340 When they don't
00:36:14.960 Sign them
00:36:15.380 Or don't use
00:36:15.900 Their real name
00:36:16.920 What do we do
00:36:17.440 With them
00:36:17.720 We throw them out
00:36:18.480 So that's what
00:36:19.800 Trudeau did
00:36:20.420 And he was right
00:36:21.040 To do so
00:36:21.800 And you know
00:36:23.360 This strategy
00:36:24.320 That they had
00:36:25.160 That these total
00:36:26.040 Gutless wonders
00:36:27.320 Had
00:36:27.780 They have
00:36:28.760 Actually solidified
00:36:30.260 Trudeau's position
00:36:31.360 In the leadership
00:36:32.040 They have
00:36:32.960 Actually made
00:36:33.740 His position
00:36:34.520 Stronger
00:36:35.220 Alf Apps
00:36:35.900 And these other
00:36:36.540 Geniuses
00:36:37.420 Who came up
00:36:38.400 With this thing
00:36:39.120 They now
00:36:40.560 Ensured that
00:36:41.480 Trudeau is going
00:36:42.420 To stay longer
00:36:43.300 Because in fairness
00:36:44.660 To him
00:36:45.020 It is impossible
00:36:45.900 For him to leave
00:36:46.980 Now
00:36:47.360 Because if he
00:36:48.480 Leaves now
00:36:49.020 It means he's
00:36:49.920 Been told to
00:36:50.920 Walk the plank
00:36:51.720 In this
00:36:52.100 Mutiny by the
00:36:53.700 Clownies
00:36:54.280 So he's
00:36:56.340 Going to be
00:36:56.680 Around for
00:36:57.180 Longer
00:36:58.180 They should
00:36:58.860 Have left
00:36:59.660 Well enough
00:37:00.260 Alone
00:37:00.620 I think he
00:37:01.440 Was always
00:37:01.860 Going to come
00:37:02.340 To the right
00:37:02.840 Decision on
00:37:03.520 His own
00:37:03.940 But now
00:37:04.640 They've
00:37:04.880 Made it
00:37:05.160 Difficult
00:37:05.580 For him
00:37:05.940 To do
00:37:06.240 That
00:37:06.460 It was
00:37:06.800 Just
00:37:07.000 Unbelievably
00:37:07.820 Stupid
00:37:08.400 And Tasha
00:37:09.520 Just in
00:37:09.840 Watching this
00:37:10.220 This week
00:37:10.600 You know
00:37:11.180 I think
00:37:11.480 There was
00:37:11.740 Just referring
00:37:12.660 To what
00:37:13.200 Warren was
00:37:13.540 Saying about
00:37:13.860 The letter
00:37:14.220 There wasn't
00:37:14.920 We want you
00:37:15.660 To kind of
00:37:15.940 Step aside
00:37:16.300 By October
00:37:16.740 29th
00:37:17.260 There wasn't
00:37:17.560 Even
00:37:17.740 Or what
00:37:18.540 There wasn't
00:37:19.200 Even kind
00:37:19.520 Of a threat
00:37:19.860 Of what
00:37:20.120 Would happen
00:37:20.580 Next
00:37:20.900 So you know
00:37:21.620 Justin Trudeau
00:37:22.220 Is still
00:37:22.440 Pretty steadfast
00:37:23.200 About his
00:37:23.760 Want to stay
00:37:26.680 On or his
00:37:27.240 Intention to
00:37:27.880 Stay on
00:37:28.180 As leader
00:37:28.500 Of the party
00:37:29.080 Where do
00:37:30.200 You go
00:37:30.420 From here
00:37:30.860 It's like
00:37:32.020 That old
00:37:32.620 Timex commercial
00:37:33.580 I'm really
00:37:34.080 Dating myself
00:37:34.720 Takes a
00:37:35.180 Licking
00:37:35.460 Keeps on
00:37:36.000 Ticking
00:37:36.360 There he
00:37:36.960 Goes
00:37:37.320 He just
00:37:37.720 Keeps
00:37:38.040 Going
00:37:38.340 You just
00:37:38.880 Wrote their
00:37:39.260 Campaign slogan
00:37:40.040 For the next
00:37:40.440 Federal election
00:37:41.120 Exactly
00:37:42.200 There you go
00:37:43.700 I think
00:37:44.700 You know
00:37:45.540 I mean
00:37:45.860 Everyone was
00:37:46.380 Everyone was
00:37:46.860 Gearing up
00:37:47.280 To see it
00:37:47.560 Would happen
00:37:48.080 But I think
00:37:50.040 That everything
00:37:51.080 That my colleague
00:37:51.820 Said is right
00:37:52.660 It's not
00:37:53.180 He's not
00:37:54.760 He's not
00:37:55.340 Leaving now
00:37:55.960 And I think
00:37:57.100 He was waiting
00:37:57.580 For the US
00:37:58.080 Election
00:37:58.400 Warren mentioned
00:37:58.900 That last week
00:37:59.420 And I think
00:37:59.840 I think it's
00:38:00.380 Right
00:38:00.660 Things are
00:38:02.300 Going
00:38:02.780 Very
00:38:03.920 Well not
00:38:04.800 Very not well
00:38:05.620 Let's put it
00:38:06.040 That way
00:38:06.300 For the Democrats
00:38:06.800 Right now
00:38:07.300 So the prospect
00:38:08.860 Of Trump
00:38:09.360 In the White
00:38:09.800 House
00:38:10.100 Is one of
00:38:10.960 The few
00:38:11.200 Cards Trudeau
00:38:11.740 Has left
00:38:12.040 To play
00:38:12.440 He's just
00:38:12.680 A hang
00:38:13.060 In there
00:38:13.360 With his
00:38:13.640 Fingernails
00:38:14.180 I don't think
00:38:15.700 It'll change
00:38:16.160 The result
00:38:16.640 Up here
00:38:17.140 To be honest
00:38:17.820 But I think
00:38:18.280 In his mind
00:38:18.780 It may
00:38:19.180 And you know
00:38:21.040 It's
00:38:21.480 At this point
00:38:23.020 I think
00:38:24.040 He's pushing
00:38:25.040 It out
00:38:25.540 So late
00:38:26.200 That they
00:38:26.540 Can't
00:38:26.940 Even if
00:38:27.240 They were
00:38:27.420 To
00:38:27.540 Pirogue
00:38:27.940 I mean
00:38:28.180 Pirogue
00:38:28.760 Ideally
00:38:29.280 Pirogue
00:38:29.780 Leadership
00:38:30.200 Election
00:38:31.080 Right
00:38:31.480 But if
00:38:32.180 It's only
00:38:32.480 A couple
00:38:32.880 Of months
00:38:33.400 If you
00:38:33.900 Pirogue
00:38:34.340 Before you
00:38:35.220 Have to come
00:38:35.500 Back with
00:38:35.760 A throne
00:38:36.020 Speech
00:38:36.260 You can't
00:38:36.860 Do that
00:38:37.180 So he's
00:38:37.500 Pushing it
00:38:37.900 Out
00:38:38.080 Pushing it
00:38:38.560 Out
00:38:38.780 And I
00:38:39.120 Think he
00:38:39.740 Knew that
00:38:40.320 He wasn't
00:38:41.180 Going to
00:38:41.380 See
00:38:41.580 The group
00:38:43.640 Of people
00:38:43.920 Outside the
00:38:44.700 Caucus
00:38:45.240 As well
00:38:45.600 Young people
00:38:46.200 Young liberals
00:38:46.840 Were agitating
00:38:47.580 Who had a
00:38:49.080 Code red
00:38:49.560 Petition
00:38:50.140 Saying that
00:38:51.320 There should
00:38:51.600 Be a new
00:38:52.020 Mechanism
00:38:52.440 In the
00:38:52.620 Party
00:38:52.840 So they
00:38:53.180 Can dispose
00:38:53.720 Of their
00:38:54.060 Leader
00:38:54.340 Like the
00:38:54.720 Conservatives
00:38:55.180 Have
00:38:55.420 By the way
00:38:55.860 And that
00:38:56.600 The liberals
00:38:56.900 Could have
00:38:57.420 They could have
00:38:57.840 Put that in
00:38:58.300 They chose
00:38:58.900 Not to
00:38:59.400 Right
00:38:59.840 It was suggested
00:39:00.740 By Michael
00:39:01.180 Chong
00:39:05.220 Maybe they'll
00:39:06.260 Do it next
00:39:06.680 Time
00:39:07.000 But in
00:39:08.000 The meantime
00:39:08.520 He's staying
00:39:09.140 I was musing
00:39:10.260 About that
00:39:10.620 Yesterday
00:39:10.940 Is this
00:39:11.360 Something that's
00:39:11.820 Going to
00:39:12.000 Change the
00:39:12.420 Liberal Party's
00:39:13.060 Mind moving
00:39:13.640 Forward
00:39:14.020 But we'll
00:39:15.000 See what
00:39:15.380 Happens
00:39:15.780 It does
00:39:16.480 Feel like
00:39:16.820 Kind of
00:39:17.100 Less hope
00:39:17.840 And change
00:39:18.300 And more
00:39:18.600 Kind of
00:39:18.860 A hope
00:39:19.120 And a
00:39:19.320 Prayer
00:39:19.540 For Trudeau
00:39:20.300 Right now
00:39:20.700 But I
00:39:21.420 Mentioned New
00:39:21.840 Brunswick
00:39:22.080 Earlier in
00:39:22.520 Terms of
00:39:22.840 The other
00:39:23.520 Immigration
00:39:23.940 Story we
00:39:24.340 Were talking
00:39:24.660 About
00:39:24.820 But obviously
00:39:25.300 Some bigger
00:39:26.020 News there
00:39:26.500 This week
00:39:26.960 In terms
00:39:27.360 Of
00:39:27.580 Liberal
00:39:28.140 Leader
00:39:28.380 Susan
00:39:28.720 Holt
00:39:29.020 Becoming
00:39:29.340 Their first
00:39:29.880 Female
00:39:30.140 Leader
00:39:30.380 In that
00:39:30.800 Province
00:39:31.080 So
00:39:31.280 Congratulations
00:39:32.040 To her
00:39:32.780 But this
00:39:34.060 Idea of
00:39:34.800 Just Blaine
00:39:36.180 Higgs
00:39:36.400 Kind of
00:39:36.680 Going down
00:39:37.140 Here in
00:39:37.520 His
00:39:37.700 Government
00:39:38.000 I was
00:39:38.320 Wondering
00:39:38.560 If the
00:39:39.020 Federal
00:39:39.320 Conservatives
00:39:39.980 And maybe
00:39:40.560 Tash
00:39:40.820 I'll start
00:39:41.100 With you
00:39:41.320 From a
00:39:41.580 Conservative
00:39:41.920 Perspective
00:39:42.500 Is this
00:39:43.880 Something that
00:39:44.280 They should
00:39:44.560 Be looking
00:39:44.940 Over their
00:39:45.360 Shoulders
00:39:45.720 At in
00:39:46.060 Terms
00:39:46.340 Of how
00:39:46.920 This
00:39:47.140 Came
00:39:48.360 Together
00:39:48.640 How this
00:39:48.960 Liberal
00:39:49.220 Victory
00:39:49.520 Came
00:39:49.820 Together
00:39:50.060 I think
00:39:50.620 Blaine
00:39:50.880 Higgs
00:39:51.060 And obviously
00:39:51.880 Pierre
00:39:52.560 Polly
00:39:52.800 Are different
00:39:53.220 Political
00:39:53.660 Animals
00:39:54.040 Is this
00:39:55.060 Something to
00:39:55.620 Be said
00:39:55.860 About the
00:39:56.200 Conservative
00:39:56.560 Brand
00:39:57.000 Or is
00:39:57.400 This
00:39:57.540 More
00:39:57.740 Just to
00:39:58.080 Kind of
00:39:58.320 Show
00:39:58.520 That
00:39:58.760 Incumbent
00:39:59.440 Governments
00:39:59.860 Are really
00:40:00.240 Just not
00:40:00.720 Safe
00:40:01.000 Anywhere
00:40:01.500 Right now
00:40:02.580 I think
00:40:03.320 It was
00:40:03.520 More
00:40:03.860 A referendum
00:40:04.440 On Blaine
00:40:04.880 Higgs
00:40:05.240 Honestly
00:40:06.000 Blaine
00:40:07.060 Higgs
00:40:07.300 Is a
00:40:07.560 Very
00:40:07.800 You know
00:40:08.440 You love
00:40:08.880 Him
00:40:08.980 Or hate
00:40:09.260 Him
00:40:09.360 Character
00:40:09.700 Even
00:40:09.960 Within
00:40:10.120 His own
00:40:10.400 Caucus
00:40:10.800 There were
00:40:11.040 A lot
00:40:11.160 Of
00:40:11.240 People
00:40:11.400 Who
00:40:11.620 Didn't
00:40:11.960 Like
00:40:12.180 Him
00:40:12.380 Some
00:40:12.680 Who
00:40:12.820 Deserted
00:40:13.180 Caucus
00:40:13.700 He
00:40:14.540 Was
00:40:15.880 A
00:40:16.020 Politician
00:40:16.580 It's
00:40:17.280 A
00:40:17.340 Politician
00:40:17.780 Still
00:40:18.160 But
00:40:24.040 Interestingly
00:40:24.580 Voters
00:40:25.100 Did
00:40:25.380 Agree
00:40:25.720 Some
00:40:25.920 Of
00:40:26.020 Controversial
00:40:26.700 Stuff
00:40:26.960 Around
00:40:27.400 Trans
00:40:27.760 Rights
00:40:28.040 And
00:40:28.700 Kids
00:40:29.100 And
00:40:29.300 The
00:40:29.940 Right
00:40:30.120 To
00:40:30.300 Know
00:40:30.440 Of
00:40:30.600 Parents
00:40:31.000 You know
00:40:32.060 Daniel
00:40:32.340 Smith
00:40:32.780 Says
00:40:33.280 The
00:40:33.420 Same
00:40:33.600 Stuff
00:40:34.000 And
00:40:34.220 She's
00:40:34.740 She's
00:40:35.040 Got
00:40:35.180 No
00:40:35.340 Issues
00:40:35.740 Right
00:40:36.100 I
00:40:37.020 Don't
00:40:37.400 I
00:40:37.560 Don't
00:40:38.000 Necessarily
00:40:38.540 Think
00:40:38.820 This
00:40:38.980 Is
00:40:39.100 About
00:40:39.360 The
00:40:39.660 Incumbent
00:40:40.080 Government
00:40:40.440 I
00:40:41.080 Really
00:40:41.260 Think
00:40:41.460 It
00:40:41.520 Was
00:40:41.640 Focused
00:40:41.900 On
00:40:42.120 Him
00:40:42.380 And
00:40:43.140 A
00:40:43.320 Desire
00:40:43.640 For
00:40:43.900 Change
00:40:44.280 Yes
00:40:44.760 But
00:40:45.520 Only
00:40:46.340 Because
00:40:46.660 People
00:40:47.220 Really
00:40:47.560 Were
00:40:48.040 Insatisfied
00:40:48.580 With
00:40:48.940 The
00:40:49.080 Way
00:40:49.200 He
00:40:49.320 Led
00:40:49.480 The
00:40:49.600 Party
00:40:49.820 Maybe
00:40:50.660 Scott
00:40:50.960 Moe
00:40:51.160 Will
00:40:51.180 Be
00:40:51.280 Watching
00:40:51.500 A
00:40:51.620 Little
00:40:51.700 Bit
00:40:51.840 Closer
00:40:52.100 Than
00:40:52.400 Pierre
00:40:52.880 Pauly
00:40:53.240 I
00:40:53.340 Hear
00:40:53.500 Carl
00:40:53.820 Just
00:40:54.020 From
00:40:54.180 That
00:40:54.340 Perspective
00:40:54.840 Is
00:40:55.160 There
00:40:55.340 Any
00:40:55.780 Warning
00:40:56.080 Signs
00:40:56.460 That
00:40:56.580 You
00:40:56.700 See
00:40:56.840 From
00:40:57.000 That
00:40:57.180 Particular
00:40:57.640 Election
00:40:58.080 Or
00:40:58.280 Like
00:40:58.720 I
00:40:58.780 Was
00:40:58.900 Alluding
00:40:59.380 To
00:40:59.620 Is
00:40:59.820 This
00:40:59.920 More
00:41:00.100 Just
00:41:00.280 Kind
00:41:00.460 Of
00:41:00.520 A
00:41:00.660 Change
00:41:01.180 Election
00:41:01.540 It
00:41:01.740 Seems
00:41:01.900 Change
00:41:02.220 Across
00:41:02.500 This
00:41:02.720 Country
00:41:03.000 Right
00:41:03.280 Where
00:41:03.480 We're
00:41:03.920 Seeing
00:41:04.180 These
00:41:04.380 Provincial
00:41:04.740 Elections
00:41:05.240 Yeah
00:41:06.360 But
00:41:06.560 There
00:41:06.800 Are
00:41:07.200 Some
00:41:07.460 Issues
00:41:07.820 At
00:41:08.040 Play
00:41:08.360 And
00:41:08.640 I
00:41:08.820 Think
00:41:08.920 The
00:41:09.020 Conservatives
00:41:09.360 Should
00:41:09.540 Keep
00:41:09.980 An
00:41:10.120 Eye
00:41:10.340 On
00:41:10.540 That
00:41:10.740 Because
00:41:11.140 Blaine
00:41:11.780 Higgs
00:41:12.200 Was
00:41:12.440 Campaigning
00:41:13.000 On
00:41:13.320 Issues
00:41:13.980 That
00:41:14.300 May
00:41:15.200 Not
00:41:15.380 Be
00:41:15.560 Top
00:41:15.740 Of
00:41:15.880 Mind
00:41:16.100 For
00:41:16.300 Most
00:41:16.600 People
00:41:17.040 He's
00:41:18.440 Campaigning
00:41:18.900 About
00:41:19.340 Should
00:41:21.020 The
00:41:21.520 Bathrooms
00:41:22.760 Be
00:41:23.060 Gendered
00:41:23.580 Or
00:41:23.720 Not
00:41:24.000 Gendered
00:41:24.580 And
00:41:24.680 That
00:41:24.900 Sort
00:41:25.160 Of
00:41:25.280 Stuff
00:41:25.620 And
00:41:25.900 When
00:41:26.400 It
00:41:26.520 Comes
00:41:26.680 To
00:41:26.840 Social
00:41:27.140 Issues
00:41:27.500 It
00:41:27.680 Is
00:41:28.260 An
00:41:28.340 ELE
00:41:29.040 For
00:41:29.480 The
00:41:29.880 Conservatives
00:41:30.380 They
00:41:30.560 Need
00:41:30.680 To
00:41:30.780 Pay
00:41:30.900 Attention
00:41:31.180 To
00:41:31.360 That
00:41:31.520 But
00:41:31.980 The
00:41:32.860 Win
00:41:33.080 By
00:41:33.260 The
00:41:33.400 Liberal
00:41:33.600 In
00:41:33.760 New
00:41:33.860 Brunswick
00:41:34.200 Is
00:41:34.440 Not
00:41:34.680 The
00:41:34.840 Beacon
00:41:35.080 Of
00:41:35.240 Hope
00:41:35.460 That
00:41:35.680 Some
00:41:35.900 Trudeau
00:41:36.220 Liberals
00:41:36.600 Think
00:41:36.860 It
00:41:37.000 Is
00:41:37.260 It
00:41:38.080 Was
00:41:39.360 A
00:41:39.760 Change
00:41:40.180 Election
00:41:40.700 The
00:41:41.640 Liberals
00:41:42.220 Sent
00:41:42.540 The
00:41:42.740 Win
00:41:42.960 They
00:41:43.140 Went
00:41:43.320 In
00:41:43.420 The
00:41:43.520 Right
00:41:43.700 Direction
00:41:44.240 And
00:41:44.540 You
00:41:45.660 Have
00:41:45.840 A
00:41:46.160 New
00:41:46.400 Government
00:41:46.780 There
00:41:47.220 We'll
00:41:48.180 See
00:41:48.460 If
00:41:48.580 That
00:41:48.740 Wind
00:41:48.960 Of
00:41:49.100 Change
00:41:49.480 Will
00:41:50.740 Continue
00:41:56.840 Pushing
00:41:58.340 Ahead
00:42:00.500 In
00:42:00.640 The
00:42:00.760 Polls
00:42:01.180 But
00:42:01.300 There
00:42:01.440 Is
00:42:01.520 Still
00:42:01.760 Second
00:42:02.520 So
00:42:02.840 We'll
00:42:03.700 Have
00:42:03.860 To
00:42:03.980 See
00:42:04.240 But
00:42:04.880 There
00:42:05.560 Are
00:42:05.700 Some
00:42:05.880 Warning
00:42:06.120 Signs
00:42:06.560 And
00:42:06.720 It's
00:42:06.880 Not
00:42:07.040 About
00:42:07.340 The
00:42:07.580 Brand
00:42:07.940 It's
00:42:08.220 About
00:42:08.440 Issues
00:42:08.900 What
00:42:09.160 Are
00:42:09.280 You
00:42:09.400 Campaigning
00:42:09.860 On
00:42:10.200 And
00:42:10.880 Where
00:42:11.120 Poliave
00:42:11.480 Has
00:42:11.580 Been
00:42:11.700 Successful
00:42:12.340 Is
00:42:12.880 Pocket
00:42:13.180 Book
00:42:13.420 Issues
00:42:13.940 Bread
00:42:15.000 And
00:42:15.140 Butter
00:42:15.340 Issues
00:42:15.880 And
00:42:16.340 Where
00:42:16.540 The
00:42:16.700 Conservatives
00:42:17.080 Are
00:42:17.280 Perhaps
00:42:18.300 Seeing
00:42:18.900 Pitfalls
00:42:19.440 Is
00:42:19.640 When
00:42:19.880 They
00:42:20.520 Go
00:42:21.600 Into
00:42:21.860 Social
00:42:22.340 Issues
00:42:22.820 Like
00:42:23.100 We've
00:42:23.280 Seen
00:42:23.420 New Brunswick
00:42:24.020 And
00:42:24.900 I guess
00:42:25.300 Warren
00:42:25.480 Just
00:42:25.660 The
00:42:25.780 Federal
00:42:26.780 Liberals
00:42:27.120 And
00:42:27.240 Ontario
00:42:27.580 Liberals
00:42:27.940 Both
00:42:28.240 With
00:42:28.460 Some
00:42:28.640 Brand
00:42:29.240 Recognition
00:42:29.860 Issues
00:42:30.300 So
00:42:30.440 Maybe
00:42:30.600 They're
00:42:30.780 A
00:42:30.860 Little
00:42:30.940 Bit
00:42:31.080 Hopeful
00:42:31.400 That
00:42:31.560 They
00:42:31.680 Can
00:42:31.820 Return
00:42:32.100 To
00:42:32.280 Some
00:42:32.480 Kind
00:42:32.640 Of
00:42:32.720 Glory
00:42:32.960 Days
00:42:33.240 In
00:42:33.400 Looking
00:42:33.620 At
00:42:33.800 This
00:42:33.960 Right
00:42:34.160 Now
00:42:34.340 But
00:42:34.540 Is
00:42:35.240 It
00:42:35.360 More
00:42:35.560 Of
00:42:35.700 A
00:42:35.800 Representation
00:42:36.420 Do
00:42:36.580 You
00:42:36.640 Think
00:42:36.800 Of
00:42:36.960 Blaine
00:42:37.220 Higgs
00:42:37.520 As a
00:42:38.420 Politician
00:42:39.080 Rather
00:42:39.440 Than
00:42:39.920 A
00:42:41.140 Kind
00:42:41.340 Of
00:42:41.460 Conservative
00:42:41.980 More
00:42:42.700 Issue
00:42:43.120 I
00:42:43.920 Think
00:42:44.140 It's
00:42:44.460 What
00:42:44.840 You
00:42:45.040 Say
00:42:45.340 I
00:42:45.500 Think
00:42:45.640 It's
00:42:45.840 What
00:42:46.020 Tash
00:42:46.380 And
00:42:46.540 Carl
00:42:46.840 Have
00:42:47.020 Said
00:42:47.280 For
00:42:47.840 Me
00:42:48.040 It
00:42:48.140 Was
00:42:48.260 Two
00:42:48.420 Things
00:42:48.680 Firstly
00:42:49.060 He
00:42:49.640 Was
00:42:49.820 A
00:42:49.960 Bully
00:42:50.200 And
00:42:51.300 You
00:42:52.100 Know
00:42:52.220 The
00:42:52.320 Good
00:42:52.460 People
00:42:52.740 Of
00:42:52.900 New
00:42:53.020 Brunswick
00:42:53.480 Came
00:42:54.320 To
00:42:54.520 Feel
00:42:54.940 As
00:42:55.240 I
00:42:55.460 Did
00:42:55.740 That
00:42:56.700 He
00:42:57.020 Was
00:42:57.280 Bullying
00:42:57.760 Kids
00:42:58.280 Trans
00:42:59.340 Kids
00:42:59.760 And
00:43:00.240 LGBTQ
00:43:00.820 Kids
00:43:01.620 And
00:43:02.080 They
00:43:02.200 Didn't
00:43:02.380 Like
00:43:02.660 It
00:43:02.820 And
00:43:03.760 Whatever
00:43:04.300 Their
00:43:04.600 View
00:43:04.860 Is
00:43:05.180 On
00:43:05.700 Parental
00:43:06.160 Rights
00:43:06.500 They
00:43:06.980 Felt
00:43:07.220 That
00:43:07.380 He
00:43:07.520 Had
00:43:07.640 Become
00:43:07.920 A
00:43:08.100 Bully
00:43:08.340 So
00:43:08.840 He
00:43:09.000 Was
00:43:09.180 Punished
00:43:09.580 For
00:43:09.740 That
00:43:10.040 That
00:43:10.640 That's
00:43:10.720 Number
00:43:10.940 One
00:43:11.280 Number
00:43:11.580 Two
00:43:12.020 You
00:43:12.400 Know
00:43:12.500 For
00:43:12.660 My
00:43:12.840 Friends
00:43:13.300 Stephen
00:43:13.680 Marr
00:43:14.120 And
00:43:14.260 various
00:43:14.540 Pollsters
00:43:15.500 Who
00:43:16.300 Have
00:43:16.420 Been
00:43:16.540 Going
00:43:16.760 Around
00:43:17.080 Saying
00:43:17.400 The
00:43:17.720 Liberal
00:43:17.940 Party
00:43:18.300 Is
00:43:18.460 Gone
00:43:18.760 Now
00:43:19.060 It's
00:43:19.260 Going
00:43:19.400 To
00:43:19.500 Disappear
00:43:19.940 When
00:43:20.140 Trudeau
00:43:20.460 Is
00:43:20.560 Defeated
00:43:21.040 That's
00:43:21.800 Gone
00:43:22.040 The
00:43:22.340 Liberal
00:43:22.560 Brand
00:43:22.900 Is
00:43:23.060 Gone
00:43:23.280 Forever
00:43:23.660 And
00:43:23.860 It's
00:43:24.020 Going
00:43:24.120 To
00:43:24.180 Be
00:43:24.400 Two
00:43:24.920 Parties
00:43:25.480 Like
00:43:25.740 It
00:43:25.840 Is
00:43:26.000 In
00:43:26.100 The
00:43:26.160 United
00:43:26.280 States
00:43:26.680 And
00:43:27.340 I
00:43:27.460 Always
00:43:28.320 Thought
00:43:28.720 That's
00:43:29.040 A
00:43:29.300 Bunch
00:43:29.520 Chihui
00:43:29.960 And
00:43:30.680 This
00:43:30.880 Shows
00:43:31.220 Why
00:43:31.640 Like
00:43:31.960 The
00:43:32.120 Liberal
00:43:32.380 Party
00:43:32.780 Brand
00:43:33.240 Even
00:43:33.680 At
00:43:33.920 A
00:43:34.060 Time
00:43:34.380 When
00:43:34.700 It
00:43:35.280 Is
00:43:35.460 So
00:43:35.740 Unpopular
00:43:36.460 Federally
00:43:37.240 Is
00:43:38.000 Able
00:43:38.300 To
00:43:38.580 Put
00:43:38.780 Together
00:43:39.100 A
00:43:39.280 Majority
00:43:39.740 Government
00:43:40.160 Under
00:43:40.940 An
00:43:41.120 Impressive
00:43:41.600 New
00:43:41.940 Leader
00:43:42.260 So
00:43:43.100 I
00:43:43.420 Think
00:43:43.620 Their
00:43:43.840 Obituary
00:43:44.400 Has
00:43:44.660 Been
00:43:44.820 Written
00:43:45.100 One
00:43:45.420 Time
00:43:45.740 Too
00:43:45.960 Many
00:43:46.240 And
00:43:47.040 Is
00:43:47.620 That
00:43:47.780 Encouragement
00:43:48.400 For
00:43:48.680 Trudeau
00:43:49.040 No
00:43:49.320 New
00:43:49.960 Brunswick
00:43:50.440 Does
00:43:50.660 Not
00:43:50.840 A
00:43:50.960 National
00:43:51.320 Government
00:43:51.820 Bank
00:43:52.260 But
00:43:53.140 It's
00:43:53.880 A
00:43:53.980 Good
00:43:54.120 Sign
00:43:54.380 For
00:43:54.560 People
00:43:54.800 Who
00:43:59.520 Those
00:43:59.820 Of
00:43:59.960 Us
00:44:00.100 Who
00:44:00.220 Feel
00:44:00.360 The
00:44:00.520 Bullies
00:44:00.880 Have
00:44:01.060 No
00:44:01.220 Place
00:44:01.540 In
00:44:01.680 Public
00:44:01.960 Life
00:44:02.260 We'll
00:44:03.420 Leave
00:44:03.580 It
00:44:03.660 There
00:44:03.780 For
00:44:03.880 This
00:44:04.040 Week
00:44:04.260 I
00:44:04.440 Really
00:44:04.640 Appreciate
00:44:05.000 Your
00:44:05.200 Time
00:44:05.580 Warren
00:44:05.820 Kinsella
00:44:06.160 Tasha
00:44:06.460 Carrad and
00:44:06.860 Carl
00:44:07.120 Belanger
00:44:07.440 I
00:44:29.520 I
00:44:30.520 Saw a
00:44:40.940 Video
00:44:41.520 Of
00:44:42.580 Some
00:44:42.820 Working
00:44:43.180 Dogs
00:44:44.000 Each
00:44:45.140 So
00:44:45.640 Happy
00:44:46.080 Turn
00:44:46.540 Do
00:44:47.040 What
00:44:47.460 It
00:44:47.640 Does
00:44:48.300 Money
00:44:48.940 Floor
00:44:49.480 Tracing
00:44:49.900 Herds
00:44:50.460 Four
00:44:50.920 Wheeler
00:44:51.460 Rides
00:44:52.120 Riding
00:44:52.800 Sheep
00:44:53.240 Smile
00:44:53.740 White
00:44:54.280 Deep
00:44:54.720 Sleep
00:44:55.160 Full
00:44:55.660 Life
00:44:56.420 For
00:44:57.700 Mankind
00:44:58.320 He's
00:44:59.740 Got
00:44:59.960 No
00:45:00.160 Sense
00:45:00.720 Of
00:45:00.980 Harpies
00:45:02.120 But
00:45:05.620 Mankind
00:45:06.540 It's
00:45:07.720 All
00:45:08.080 Corset
00:45:09.260 Ties
00:45:09.840 And
00:45:10.100 Pakistan
00:45:10.540 Picture
00:45:17.220 Being
00:45:17.700 Built
00:45:18.400 For
00:45:19.240 One
00:45:19.700 Thing
00:45:20.300 And
00:45:21.680 When
00:45:21.920 Nothing
00:45:22.340 Is
00:45:22.600 Done
00:45:22.860 You
00:45:23.060 Feel
00:45:23.420 Free
00:45:24.060 Less
00:45:25.780 Confession
00:45:26.360 Demolition
00:45:27.300 Heavy
00:45:27.800 Tim
00:45:28.160 Afraid
00:45:28.960 Machine
00:45:29.640 Shop
00:45:30.180 Didn't
00:45:30.720 Shop
00:45:31.140 Perfect
00:45:31.760 Machine
00:45:33.140 But
00:45:34.620 Mankind
00:45:35.520 That
00:45:37.020 Bold
00:45:37.720 Is
00:45:37.980 On
00:45:38.660 Is
00:45:38.920 What
00:45:39.240 A
00:45:39.440 List
00:45:40.020 But
00:45:42.560 Mankind
00:45:43.540 He's
00:45:44.560 Busy
00:45:45.000 Drilling
00:45:45.600 Holes
00:45:46.340 In
00:45:46.640 And
00:45:50.540 In
00:45:50.860 Time
00:45:51.700 We
00:45:52.500 Can
00:45:52.740 Keep
00:45:52.960 Fire
00:45:53.360 That
00:45:53.700 There's
00:45:54.160 No
00:45:54.600 Plan
00:45:55.480 He's
00:46:00.360 Left
00:46:00.620 To
00:46:00.820 Guess
00:46:01.240 From
00:46:01.620 Earth
00:46:02.120 And
00:46:02.660 Every
00:46:03.320 Turn
00:46:04.120 Until
00:46:04.560 The
00:46:04.820 Shop
00:46:05.180 Stop
00:46:05.600 At
00:46:06.100 The
00:46:06.560 End
00:46:07.400 He's
00:46:08.320 Made
00:46:08.560 To
00:46:08.920 Crash
00:46:09.220 The
00:46:09.500 Walls
00:46:10.200 And
00:46:10.560 Dead
00:46:10.960 His
00:46:11.460 Skull
00:46:12.060 Learned
00:46:12.760 Nothing
00:46:13.140 To
00:46:13.900 Be
00:46:14.440 Dead
00:46:16.060 In
00:46:17.140 So
00:46:21.700 Terriers live to kill rats
00:46:35.460 Retrievers carry birds and reeds
00:46:40.340 But there's no reason for you to leave bed
00:46:43.980 No hardwired noise
00:46:47.260 Just a compass left spinning in your head
00:46:51.300 Let's talk about a bit of a story that I'm glad to see
00:47:03.080 and I say bring it on
00:47:04.320 Semiduim
00:47:05.520 and certainly you've started to hear more and more
00:47:08.320 about this name and this group
00:47:09.920 this is an anti-Israel advocacy group
00:47:13.080 that might be a polite way of putting it
00:47:15.660 but this is a group based in Vancouver
00:47:17.260 recently added to our terror list in this country
00:47:19.500 and they're threatening to sue Prime Minister Trudeau
00:47:22.300 and Conservative leader Polly Eve
00:47:24.120 for recklessly and maliciously accusing them of being a terrorist entity
00:47:28.540 and it of course also threatens to sue Dominic LeBlanc
00:47:31.880 the safety minister
00:47:32.980 demanding a retraction and an apology
00:47:35.740 which I do not think they're going to get
00:47:38.300 and I certainly hope they don't get
00:47:39.840 they say look the liberals can't legislate
00:47:43.420 away our right to free speech
00:47:45.120 if they contend we are terrorists
00:47:47.320 let them prove it in court
00:47:48.500 says Cates
00:47:51.120 one of the people involved in this organization
00:47:54.500 and
00:47:55.740 okay
00:47:57.200 so yeah
00:47:57.900 she says you can't lead just your way out of free speech
00:48:00.920 well free speech does have limits
00:48:02.740 and
00:48:03.920 you can't have consequences to free speech
00:48:06.580 you can't threaten
00:48:07.960 or cause harm
00:48:09.380 with your speech
00:48:10.580 right
00:48:11.140 and the woman who is of course
00:48:13.180 at the center of this
00:48:14.740 has been under investigation by the police
00:48:17.900 for quite some time
00:48:19.320 except for they didn't
00:48:21.060 bother to charge her
00:48:22.040 and a lot of people say
00:48:24.020 well why
00:48:24.560 why wouldn't you charge this person
00:48:26.860 when they have been out there
00:48:28.880 spouting off in the streets of Canada
00:48:30.540 you know along groups like
00:48:32.580 a death to Canada
00:48:34.080 her name is Charlotte Cates
00:48:35.780 and she is one of the founding members
00:48:37.440 she and her husband
00:48:38.620 so what happens here
00:48:40.020 well I say bring it on
00:48:41.100 and let's see some disclosure
00:48:42.620 because I think that will say
00:48:44.060 a lot
00:48:44.900 Warren Kinsella
00:48:46.100 is joining us now
00:48:47.480 I appreciate that my friend
00:48:48.980 of course you're president of Daisy Group
00:48:50.920 former political strategist
00:48:52.080 for Jean Cretchen
00:48:52.600 and of course the guy
00:48:53.500 who followed the dollars
00:48:54.560 very early on
00:48:55.860 and basically
00:48:57.080 helped bring
00:48:58.600 what should have happened
00:48:59.240 a long time
00:48:59.760 so I appreciate it
00:49:00.660 well I appreciate
00:49:01.960 and I just want to
00:49:03.140 point out
00:49:03.720 off the top
00:49:04.400 did you know that
00:49:05.480 Joe Strummer and Mick Jones
00:49:06.800 of the clash
00:49:07.680 were both of Jewish descent
00:49:08.980 I did not know that
00:49:10.340 oh I did not know that
00:49:11.400 that's a
00:49:11.780 that's interesting
00:49:12.460 well I was thinking like
00:49:13.220 god if I were able to see them
00:49:14.480 I would have been about eight
00:49:15.380 or nine
00:49:16.160 but would be fun
00:49:17.560 they would disapprove
00:49:19.140 of a group like Samadun
00:49:20.340 yeah
00:49:20.780 and I think
00:49:21.500 because the clash
00:49:23.220 and lots of good
00:49:24.560 and fair-minded people
00:49:25.860 oppose terror
00:49:26.640 and that is
00:49:28.000 what
00:49:28.560 Samadun
00:49:29.440 has defended
00:49:30.520 and they've advocated
00:49:32.060 for terror groups
00:49:33.060 they've been
00:49:33.860 characterized
00:49:34.680 they've been designated
00:49:35.760 as a terror group
00:49:36.720 in Israel
00:49:37.340 by the Dutch parliament
00:49:39.380 just a few days ago
00:49:40.400 and not just us
00:49:41.800 but the U.S. Treasury Department
00:49:43.300 has designated them
00:49:44.540 as a terrorist group
00:49:45.420 so if it walks like a duck
00:49:46.580 and talks like a duck
00:49:47.480 well you know the rest
00:49:48.400 yeah
00:49:48.780 this is a group
00:49:50.440 that has been
00:49:51.940 described by governments
00:49:53.440 around the world
00:49:54.160 as a front
00:49:55.560 for the popular front
00:49:56.800 for the liberation
00:49:57.580 of Palestine
00:49:58.140 which is a listed
00:49:59.280 terrorist entity
00:50:00.240 across western democracy
00:50:01.960 so there is no doubt
00:50:03.660 who they are
00:50:04.420 and I think
00:50:05.160 what they're trying to do
00:50:06.080 and this is
00:50:06.560 I pay tribute to you
00:50:07.700 and to this radio station
00:50:09.060 they're trying to chill
00:50:10.580 any discussion
00:50:11.520 of them
00:50:12.360 right
00:50:12.820 because it's affecting
00:50:13.660 hitting them
00:50:14.440 in the pocketbook
00:50:15.320 when you're designated
00:50:16.120 as a terrorist entity
00:50:17.200 you can't pop down
00:50:18.700 to your local bank
00:50:19.720 and open an account anymore
00:50:21.040 it becomes much more
00:50:22.420 difficult to travel
00:50:23.420 so it's having
00:50:24.560 an impact on them
00:50:25.460 and they're trying
00:50:26.040 to chill discussion
00:50:27.160 of them
00:50:28.220 and what they stand for
00:50:29.280 so hats off to you
00:50:30.620 at AM640
00:50:31.520 for talking
00:50:32.540 about them today
00:50:33.380 well you know
00:50:34.100 hey look
00:50:34.500 it's a cease and desist
00:50:35.520 it's a slap suit
00:50:36.520 and you're right
00:50:37.120 it is a way
00:50:37.940 of chilling people
00:50:38.940 but I'd be surprised
00:50:40.760 if they didn't come
00:50:41.560 after people like you
00:50:42.380 right
00:50:42.660 because they don't
00:50:43.860 want this kind
00:50:44.520 of attention
00:50:45.060 the concern I have
00:50:46.360 is if there'll be
00:50:47.220 follow through
00:50:47.920 right
00:50:48.240 it's one thing
00:50:48.760 to list them
00:50:49.360 as an organization
00:50:50.540 it's another thing
00:50:51.280 to deal with it
00:50:51.980 and actually stop it
00:50:53.140 that's right
00:50:54.160 and I'm a lawyer
00:50:54.840 I confess
00:50:55.640 and I wipe my
00:50:58.020 you know what
00:50:58.660 with libel notices
00:50:59.880 it's like
00:51:00.940 let's see
00:51:01.440 the color
00:51:01.880 of your statement
00:51:02.540 of claim
00:51:03.000 right
00:51:03.540 we all get
00:51:04.160 libel notices
00:51:04.860 all the time
00:51:05.620 but then there's
00:51:06.820 no follow through
00:51:07.560 and what they're
00:51:07.980 trying to do
00:51:08.580 is to shut people up
00:51:10.000 and that's one
00:51:10.940 of the reasons
00:51:11.380 why we have
00:51:11.880 slap suits
00:51:12.480 as you pointed out
00:51:13.320 to you know
00:51:15.080 prevent people
00:51:15.900 from trying to
00:51:16.680 chill discussions
00:51:17.520 of important topics
00:51:18.740 and this is
00:51:19.640 an important topic
00:51:20.600 this is an organization
00:51:22.520 that's led by
00:51:23.220 a man and a woman
00:51:24.040 a couple
00:51:24.860 in Vancouver
00:51:26.180 she's appeared
00:51:27.920 on the steps
00:51:28.620 right after
00:51:29.260 October 7th
00:51:30.120 after the slaughter
00:51:31.000 and the atrocities
00:51:31.960 of that day
00:51:32.520 she appeared
00:51:33.420 on the steps
00:51:33.980 of the Vancouver
00:51:35.200 Art Gallery
00:51:35.820 to praise Hamas
00:51:37.200 this is a man
00:51:38.620 her husband
00:51:39.540 who has openly
00:51:40.940 said he's part
00:51:41.800 of the leadership
00:51:42.440 of the PFLP
00:51:43.520 these are all
00:51:44.560 things on the
00:51:45.260 public record
00:51:45.920 they are all
00:51:46.640 the truth
00:51:47.240 people can go
00:51:48.520 and check it
00:51:48.980 themselves
00:51:49.400 and so you know
00:51:50.560 why are they
00:51:51.120 doing this
00:51:51.660 they're trying
00:51:52.400 to prevent
00:51:52.900 discussion
00:51:53.520 of you know
00:51:54.700 what they are
00:51:55.320 which is
00:51:55.980 a terrorist
00:51:56.640 group
00:51:57.000 in the view
00:51:57.520 of nations
00:51:58.640 around the world
00:51:59.300 because it's
00:52:00.320 hitting them
00:52:00.760 in the pocketbook
00:52:01.620 yeah
00:52:02.600 but the question
00:52:03.500 is you know
00:52:04.480 when will we
00:52:05.300 actually see
00:52:06.460 you know
00:52:07.040 on the criminal
00:52:07.520 side
00:52:07.840 the consequences
00:52:08.660 of actually
00:52:09.100 going after
00:52:09.660 them
00:52:09.880 because you
00:52:10.480 know
00:52:10.580 she has been
00:52:10.980 under investigation
00:52:11.860 for a long
00:52:13.760 time by the
00:52:14.260 Vancouver police
00:52:14.900 for months on
00:52:15.520 end
00:52:15.860 and they
00:52:16.580 know what
00:52:17.340 she's out
00:52:17.700 there doing
00:52:18.460 they see
00:52:19.300 the things
00:52:19.920 that she's
00:52:20.660 been involved
00:52:21.220 with
00:52:21.440 and yet
00:52:21.880 they can't
00:52:23.060 bring themselves
00:52:23.500 to bring
00:52:24.040 charges
00:52:24.920 and this
00:52:25.980 is where
00:52:26.300 politics
00:52:26.800 gets involved
00:52:27.660 the section
00:52:28.960 the Vancouver
00:52:29.640 police I know
00:52:30.320 for a fact
00:52:31.040 have referred
00:52:31.840 to the auditor
00:52:33.120 the attorney
00:52:33.960 general
00:52:34.360 in British
00:52:35.820 Columbia
00:52:36.260 who is a
00:52:37.460 new democrat
00:52:38.200 it's important
00:52:39.600 that they
00:52:40.920 think charges
00:52:41.680 should be laid
00:52:42.280 under section
00:52:42.860 319
00:52:43.480 under the
00:52:44.020 criminal code
00:52:44.680 which is the
00:52:45.600 hate promotion
00:52:46.160 section
00:52:46.740 willfully
00:52:47.420 promoting hatred
00:52:48.400 against an
00:52:49.280 identifiable
00:52:49.920 group
00:52:50.320 in this
00:52:50.660 case
00:52:50.900 choose
00:52:51.260 they've
00:52:51.600 said
00:52:51.760 that she
00:52:52.060 should be
00:52:52.480 charged
00:52:52.940 and installed
00:52:54.000 and of course
00:52:54.980 we've had
00:52:55.520 this BC
00:52:56.100 provincial election
00:52:57.180 and it's still
00:52:58.120 not settled
00:52:58.700 yet and they've
00:52:59.480 got vote
00:52:59.940 counting and
00:53:00.520 so on
00:53:00.860 going on
00:53:01.680 so whether
00:53:02.840 the conservatives
00:53:03.680 win or the
00:53:04.540 NDP win
00:53:05.440 you know
00:53:06.240 people in
00:53:06.720 British Columbia
00:53:07.240 and across
00:53:07.720 Canada need
00:53:08.360 to put their
00:53:08.780 feet to the
00:53:09.220 fire and say
00:53:09.900 we expect
00:53:10.940 you to
00:53:11.400 approve the
00:53:12.080 charges
00:53:12.480 against
00:53:12.980 Charlotte
00:53:13.360 Cates
00:53:13.780 because she
00:53:14.700 clearly
00:53:15.340 clearly
00:53:16.240 made a
00:53:18.140 number of
00:53:18.540 statements
00:53:19.040 that put
00:53:20.140 her
00:53:20.520 within
00:53:21.800 the definition
00:53:23.600 of section
00:53:24.280 319
00:53:24.920 of the
00:53:25.660 criminal
00:53:25.900 code
00:53:26.260 they need
00:53:27.060 to do
00:53:27.440 that
00:53:27.780 so far
00:53:28.780 as you
00:53:29.140 point out
00:53:29.600 it's taken
00:53:30.160 them months
00:53:30.680 and we
00:53:30.940 still don't
00:53:31.300 have a
00:53:31.560 decision
00:53:31.960 yeah
00:53:32.400 it's been
00:53:33.240 shameful
00:53:33.640 that you've
00:53:34.440 got Chief
00:53:34.880 Demke just
00:53:35.480 a couple
00:53:35.800 of weeks
00:53:36.180 ago saying
00:53:36.640 well we
00:53:37.040 need more
00:53:37.340 clarity
00:53:37.620 on some
00:53:37.880 of the
00:53:38.040 hate
00:53:38.220 laws
00:53:38.420 and like
00:53:38.660 well if
00:53:38.840 you have
00:53:39.080 to ask
00:53:39.380 that 52
00:53:39.860 weeks
00:53:40.180 later
00:53:40.400 then you're
00:53:40.860 not at
00:53:41.100 all serious
00:53:41.600 about doing
00:53:42.420 anything
00:53:42.820 about this
00:53:43.300 because the
00:53:43.780 laws have
00:53:44.100 been on the
00:53:44.440 books for a
00:53:44.860 long time
00:53:45.400 and the time
00:53:48.540 clarity would
00:53:49.240 have been
00:53:49.460 a long
00:53:50.000 time ago
00:53:50.580 I will
00:53:51.620 say I
00:53:52.120 did think
00:53:52.500 it was
00:53:52.680 interesting
00:53:53.100 like him
00:53:54.060 or hate
00:53:54.500 him that
00:53:54.780 Donald Trump
00:53:55.260 says in
00:53:55.680 his first
00:53:56.100 year of
00:53:56.440 presidency
00:53:56.800 he will
00:53:57.460 jail he
00:53:58.340 will make
00:53:58.720 it a
00:53:58.920 one year
00:53:59.380 jail term
00:54:00.260 for anyone
00:54:00.620 who burns
00:54:01.140 the American
00:54:01.660 flag
00:54:02.100 because that's
00:54:02.600 you know I
00:54:03.680 think with
00:54:04.140 with people
00:54:04.620 doing these
00:54:05.100 kinds of
00:54:05.400 things in
00:54:05.880 the streets
00:54:06.260 and we
00:54:06.500 certainly saw
00:54:07.060 in Vancouver
00:54:08.020 where the
00:54:08.500 burning of
00:54:08.840 the Canadian
00:54:09.200 flag and
00:54:09.800 people chanting
00:54:10.760 death to
00:54:11.380 Canada
00:54:11.680 you know
00:54:12.660 there's going
00:54:13.160 to be
00:54:13.360 there is
00:54:13.980 people want
00:54:15.040 action on
00:54:15.600 this stuff
00:54:15.900 they want
00:54:16.480 people to be
00:54:17.840 charged
00:54:18.240 and or
00:54:18.860 held to
00:54:19.740 account
00:54:20.100 and we
00:54:21.280 have enough
00:54:21.700 hate laws
00:54:22.300 on the
00:54:22.760 books to
00:54:23.840 choke a
00:54:24.440 horse
00:54:24.800 we've got
00:54:26.220 perhaps more
00:54:27.240 hate laws
00:54:28.140 at all
00:54:29.600 levels than
00:54:30.600 it just about
00:54:31.160 any other
00:54:31.580 country in
00:54:32.180 the world
00:54:32.660 why can't
00:54:33.820 the donkeys
00:54:34.320 put it into
00:54:34.880 effect right
00:54:35.420 like it's
00:54:35.800 just like
00:54:36.100 come on
00:54:36.540 because there's
00:54:38.440 a lack of
00:54:39.000 political will
00:54:39.700 and it's like
00:54:40.380 all this stuff's
00:54:41.000 going to go
00:54:41.340 away well
00:54:42.180 it's been
00:54:42.620 more than a
00:54:43.220 year since
00:54:44.320 October 7th
00:54:45.360 I've got a
00:54:45.780 report sitting
00:54:46.440 right in front
00:54:46.920 of me from
00:54:47.340 a group
00:54:47.640 called
00:54:47.900 Cyberwell
00:54:48.560 based in
00:54:49.500 Israel
00:54:49.900 and they
00:54:50.860 have said
00:54:51.280 if anything
00:54:52.380 anti-semitism
00:54:53.760 online in
00:54:54.560 particular
00:54:55.060 is dramatically
00:54:56.620 higher than
00:54:57.660 it ever was
00:54:58.300 before October
00:54:59.040 7th
00:54:59.600 the problem
00:55:00.380 is getting
00:55:00.840 worse and
00:55:01.480 it's groups
00:55:01.920 like Samadun
00:55:02.660 that are doing
00:55:03.240 it so we
00:55:04.180 need our
00:55:04.680 politicians
00:55:05.260 and our
00:55:05.740 police and
00:55:06.180 our prosecutors
00:55:06.900 to step up
00:55:08.240 and do their
00:55:08.980 job what we
00:55:09.780 pay them to
00:55:10.440 do that's
00:55:11.180 what they need
00:55:11.540 to do in
00:55:11.920 British Columbia
00:55:12.480 and that's
00:55:13.140 what they need
00:55:13.540 to do in
00:55:13.900 Toronto too
00:55:14.300 because Toronto
00:55:14.800 has got one
00:55:15.760 of the worst
00:55:16.160 anti-semitism
00:55:17.000 problems in
00:55:17.960 the world
00:55:18.620 yeah a nasty
00:55:20.620 nasty reputation
00:55:21.840 for that
00:55:22.780 and it does
00:55:23.520 not just
00:55:24.120 go away
00:55:25.560 so stay tuned
00:55:27.140 on that
00:55:27.360 I did want
00:55:27.960 to ask you
00:55:28.580 Warren though
00:55:28.860 before we
00:55:29.240 go
00:55:29.500 Monday
00:55:30.140 like Trudeau's
00:55:31.360 not going to
00:55:31.800 go
00:55:32.080 he's not
00:55:33.000 going to
00:55:33.180 go
00:55:33.420 but he's
00:55:33.940 still got
00:55:34.140 Monday and
00:55:34.540 Tuesday
00:55:34.780 right
00:55:35.080 where he's
00:55:35.420 up against
00:55:35.900 this deadline
00:55:36.620 by the
00:55:36.940 Bloc
00:55:37.160 Québécois
00:55:37.740 they want
00:55:38.660 him to
00:55:38.860 enshrine
00:55:39.300 milk
00:55:40.460 supply
00:55:41.740 management
00:55:42.180 into
00:55:42.680 trade
00:55:43.140 deals
00:55:43.420 and
00:55:43.640 this
00:55:43.820 old
00:55:44.220 age
00:55:44.560 addition
00:55:46.120 and
00:55:47.000 already
00:55:47.400 they're
00:55:47.700 saying
00:55:47.860 well we
00:55:48.060 can't
00:55:48.300 accept
00:55:48.520 that
00:55:48.740 so he's
00:55:49.260 got to
00:55:49.440 survive
00:55:49.660 that
00:55:50.120 and then
00:55:50.440 he's
00:55:50.560 got to
00:55:50.760 survive
00:55:51.020 this
00:55:51.320 letter
00:55:51.700 by his
00:55:52.080 own
00:55:52.280 liberal
00:55:53.140 MPs
00:55:54.380 to
00:55:54.900 respond
00:55:55.520 but he's
00:55:55.780 already
00:55:55.920 responded
00:55:56.400 to that
00:55:56.780 right
00:55:56.980 so what
00:55:57.220 do you
00:55:57.320 think
00:55:57.440 happens
00:55:57.680 Monday
00:55:57.900 or
00:55:58.040 Tuesday
00:55:58.300 well I
00:55:59.380 work for
00:55:59.720 a prime
00:56:00.020 minister
00:56:00.360 and you
00:56:00.920 know
00:56:01.080 in
00:56:01.320 politics
00:56:01.720 you got
00:56:02.100 threats
00:56:02.400 that are
00:56:02.620 real
00:56:02.840 and threats
00:56:03.340 that are
00:56:03.660 an illusion
00:56:04.100 I think
00:56:04.500 the one
00:56:04.840 from his
00:56:05.280 caucus
00:56:05.680 we've seen
00:56:06.320 it is
00:56:06.660 an illusion
00:56:07.140 it was
00:56:07.480 a great
00:56:07.720 big dud
00:56:08.240 they lacked
00:56:09.100 the guts
00:56:09.500 to even
00:56:09.820 put their
00:56:10.160 name to
00:56:10.580 their so-called
00:56:11.240 letter
00:56:11.600 asking him
00:56:12.680 pleading
00:56:13.080 with him
00:56:13.420 to go
00:56:13.720 Blanchet
00:56:14.360 the leader
00:56:15.100 of the
00:56:15.320 bloc
00:56:15.620 is a
00:56:15.940 different
00:56:16.300 kind of
00:56:18.420 customer
00:56:18.820 I think
00:56:19.620 he means
00:56:20.200 it
00:56:20.420 so that
00:56:20.800 means
00:56:21.040 Trudeau
00:56:21.440 has got
00:56:21.760 two
00:56:22.060 options
00:56:22.500 he can
00:56:23.620 either
00:56:23.920 parole
00:56:24.340 and shut
00:56:25.060 down
00:56:25.280 parliament
00:56:25.700 and avoid
00:56:26.500 a confidence
00:56:27.200 vote
00:56:27.620 or as
00:56:29.240 you know
00:56:29.700 some people
00:56:30.180 are speculating
00:56:30.880 he can
00:56:31.260 fold like
00:56:31.680 a cheap
00:56:32.000 suit
00:56:32.320 and give
00:56:33.020 Blanchet
00:56:33.460 whatever
00:56:33.700 he wants
00:56:34.200 that's
00:56:34.500 what he
00:56:34.720 did
00:56:34.920 for years
00:56:35.560 with
00:56:36.340 Jagmeet
00:56:36.800 Singh
00:56:37.040 so I
00:56:37.660 wouldn't
00:56:37.800 be surprised
00:56:38.300 to see
00:56:38.580 him do
00:56:38.820 it with
00:56:39.060 Blanchet
00:56:39.500 but nor
00:56:40.120 would I
00:56:40.400 be surprised
00:56:40.920 to see
00:56:41.400 him
00:56:41.800 parole
00:56:42.440 the house
00:56:42.940 sit down
00:56:43.500 wait to see
00:56:44.060 what happens
00:56:44.580 in the
00:56:44.860 US presidential
00:56:45.520 election
00:56:46.240 and decide
00:56:47.100 what he's
00:56:47.580 going to do
00:56:47.940 if he's
00:56:48.280 going to go
00:56:48.580 for a walk
00:56:49.080 in the snow
00:56:49.560 and I'm
00:56:50.340 one of the
00:56:50.620 people that
00:56:51.020 hopes that
00:56:51.360 he does
00:56:51.760 yeah
00:56:52.500 just walk
00:56:53.520 anywhere as
00:56:53.960 far as I
00:56:54.360 can tell
00:56:55.360 but stay
00:56:56.240 tuned on that
00:56:56.660 one too
00:56:57.000 all right
00:56:57.580 have a great
00:56:58.420 weekend
00:56:58.740 thanks Warren
00:57:03.020 with the
00:57:03.340 latest on
00:57:03.820 that
00:57:04.220 and
00:57:04.560 certainly
00:57:05.160 we'll
00:57:05.860 follow
00:57:06.160 that
00:57:06.440 one
00:57:33.020 anti-cult
00:57:33.840 eternal
00:57:35.280 radicola
00:57:36.420 surreal
00:57:37.600 as a
00:57:37.900 plastic
00:57:38.320 bold
00:57:38.680 where
00:57:38.860 as a
00:57:39.140 destiny
00:57:39.700 in the
00:57:40.380 fatherland
00:57:41.380 big
00:57:42.660 color
00:57:42.840 jasmine
00:57:43.960 go tell
00:57:45.300 the minister
00:57:45.820 model
00:57:46.260 like a
00:57:46.700 sinister
00:57:47.220 incomprehensible
00:57:49.220 love
00:57:50.000 teachers
00:57:50.660 get a
00:57:51.480 slow
00:57:51.920 this
00:57:52.880 is
00:57:53.200 super
00:57:53.460 in
00:57:53.720 all
00:57:53.960 work
00:57:54.340 all
00:57:54.960 got
00:57:55.240 stretched
00:57:55.720 we
00:57:56.160 think
00:57:56.460 but
00:57:56.800 you
00:57:57.300 can
00:57:57.740 burn
00:57:57.960 our
00:57:58.180 paintings
00:57:58.840 we'll
00:57:59.960 save a
00:58:00.280 thousand
00:58:00.620 more
00:58:01.200 each
00:58:02.620 one
00:58:03.100 monster
00:58:04.540 first
00:58:04.920 than
00:58:05.220 before
00:58:05.860 imperial
00:58:12.860 eagle
00:58:13.520 brought
00:58:14.860 the
00:58:15.060 hammer
00:58:15.320 and
00:58:15.540 sickle
00:58:16.120 social
00:58:17.140 look
00:58:17.360 real
00:58:17.760 as
00:58:17.960 all
00:58:18.280 ill
00:58:18.540 degenerate
00:58:19.320 like
00:58:19.860 cathedral
00:58:20.340 night
00:58:21.100 rhinos
00:58:22.440 of the
00:58:22.900 side
00:58:23.560 using
00:58:24.720 doubt
00:58:25.040 justice
00:58:25.560 month
00:58:25.900 life
00:58:26.180 is
00:58:26.340 progress
00:58:26.940 war
00:58:27.460 referee
00:58:28.100 it's
00:58:28.460 a
00:58:28.620 wall
00:58:28.980 violent
00:58:29.700 in
00:58:29.980 color
00:58:30.340 wrink
00:58:30.940 of
00:58:31.140 oil
00:58:31.540 the
00:58:32.460 birth
00:58:32.840 of
00:58:33.000 expressionism
00:58:34.000 we're
00:58:34.940 here
00:58:35.400 first
00:58:35.980 symbol
00:58:36.480 in
00:58:36.740 love
00:58:37.100 you can
00:58:37.500 burn
00:58:37.660 on
00:58:37.940 paintings
00:58:38.700 we'll
00:58:39.680 give a
00:58:40.000 thousand
00:58:40.340 more
00:58:40.920 each
00:58:42.380 one
00:58:42.880 more
00:58:43.820 than
00:58:44.940 before
00:58:45.880 for
00:58:47.280 i had to
00:58:49.220 ask
00:58:49.580 something
00:58:50.420 so
00:58:51.400 perverse
00:58:52.000 and
00:58:52.560 so
00:58:53.620 sweet
00:58:54.520 i know
00:58:58.760 how this
00:58:59.420 runs out
00:59:00.040 cause
00:59:00.920 there's no
00:59:01.540 romance
00:59:02.180 yet
00:59:02.780 great
00:59:03.420 you can
00:59:08.340 you can
00:59:08.360 burn
00:59:08.620 you can
00:59:10.420 burn
00:59:10.700 you can
00:59:12.380 burn
00:59:12.660 you can
00:59:13.260 burn
00:59:13.540 off
00:59:13.760 paintings
00:59:14.260 we'll
00:59:14.380 dream
00:59:14.660 a thousand
00:59:15.340 more
00:59:15.880 each one
00:59:16.000 for
00:59:16.880 you can
00:59:17.260 burn
00:59:17.540 off
00:59:17.760 paintings
00:59:18.420 roughly
00:59:19.500 wrecked
00:59:20.120 rain
00:59:20.720 open
00:59:22.340 in
00:59:22.840 black
00:59:23.180 for
00:59:23.680 all
00:59:24.340 the
00:59:24.600 world
00:59:24.940 to
00:59:25.220 see
00:59:27.000 come
00:59:27.660 see
00:59:28.220 and
00:59:36.300 we're
00:59:36.480 back
00:59:37.060 and
00:59:37.440 we're
00:59:37.580 back
00:59:37.820 with
00:59:37.980 John
00:59:38.180 Mraz
00:59:38.540 and
00:59:38.740 John
00:59:38.940 and
00:59:39.060 I
00:59:39.160 were
00:59:39.280 just
00:59:39.500 talking
00:59:39.940 offline
00:59:40.440 about
00:59:40.880 how
00:59:41.200 the
00:59:41.300 world
00:59:41.500 is
00:59:41.700 crazy
00:59:42.340 and
00:59:44.800 John
00:59:45.240 I
00:59:45.500 think
00:59:45.960 Israel
00:59:46.860 responding
00:59:47.660 in
00:59:48.320 the
00:59:48.480 way
00:59:48.920 that
00:59:49.720 it
00:59:49.900 did
00:59:50.260 to
00:59:50.760 Iran's
00:59:51.500 attack
00:59:52.040 almost
00:59:52.960 a
00:59:53.180 month
00:59:53.400 later
00:59:53.900 actually
00:59:54.920 wasn't
00:59:55.440 crazy
00:59:56.020 it
00:59:56.380 looked
00:59:56.580 quite
00:59:57.080 sophisticated
00:59:58.600 and
00:59:59.440 quite
00:59:59.860 focused
01:00:00.620 they
01:00:01.300 didn't
01:00:01.580 take
01:00:01.900 out
01:00:02.240 any
01:00:02.800 oil
01:00:03.160 reserves
01:00:03.600 they
01:00:04.000 didn't
01:00:04.280 take
01:00:04.580 out
01:00:04.940 any
01:00:05.580 nuclear
01:00:06.000 facilities
01:00:06.680 they
01:00:07.000 just
01:00:07.200 aimed
01:00:07.680 at
01:00:08.140 IRGC
01:00:09.500 and
01:00:10.160 military
01:00:10.820 buildup
01:00:11.880 and
01:00:12.680 I
01:00:12.780 think
01:00:13.320 I
01:00:13.540 mean
01:00:13.680 you
01:00:13.820 know
01:00:13.960 more
01:00:14.180 about
01:00:14.380 this
01:00:14.600 world
01:00:14.860 than
01:00:15.200 I
01:00:15.960 do
01:00:16.200 I
01:00:16.880 think
01:00:17.100 that's
01:00:17.380 the
01:00:17.520 way
01:00:17.640 to
01:00:17.780 go
01:00:17.960 isn't
01:00:18.240 it
01:00:18.400 yes
01:00:20.380 and
01:00:20.920 I
01:00:21.080 think
01:00:21.380 the
01:00:22.000 reasons
01:00:22.540 are
01:00:22.740 not
01:00:22.960 being
01:00:23.220 explained
01:00:23.800 well
01:00:24.100 enough
01:00:24.360 and
01:00:24.580 they're
01:00:24.780 in
01:00:24.960 they're
01:00:25.320 clear as
01:00:25.960 daylight
01:00:27.080 which
01:00:27.320 is
01:00:27.480 that
01:00:27.620 the
01:00:27.720 United
01:00:27.940 States
01:00:28.440 and
01:00:28.640 Western
01:00:29.060 Europe
01:00:29.360 and
01:00:29.660 let's
01:00:31.540 just
01:00:31.680 say
01:00:31.900 nation
01:00:32.340 states
01:00:32.740 that
01:00:32.960 promote
01:00:33.240 democracy
01:00:33.840 and
01:00:34.440 human
01:00:34.700 rights
01:00:35.160 believe
01:00:35.980 that
01:00:36.700 the
01:00:37.040 Iranian
01:00:37.360 people
01:00:38.000 should
01:00:38.500 not
01:00:38.780 suffer
01:00:39.220 for the
01:00:39.920 sins
01:00:40.200 of the
01:00:40.440 IRGC
01:00:41.160 and its
01:00:41.680 Shia
01:00:41.920 government
01:00:42.340 most
01:00:42.660 people
01:00:42.960 are
01:00:43.240 unaware
01:00:43.620 that
01:00:43.920 less
01:00:44.160 than
01:00:44.320 50%
01:00:44.920 of the
01:00:45.220 people
01:00:45.440 who live
01:00:45.760 in Iran
01:00:46.140 are
01:00:46.440 even
01:00:46.680 Muslim
01:00:47.180 Shias
01:00:47.820 but
01:00:49.220 certainly
01:00:49.980 the
01:00:50.620 cartel
01:00:51.100 or the
01:00:51.380 caste
01:00:51.700 that
01:00:51.940 control
01:00:52.500 that
01:00:52.740 country
01:00:53.120 so
01:00:53.660 when
01:00:53.800 the
01:00:53.940 US
01:00:54.200 applies
01:00:54.620 pressure
01:00:55.100 on
01:00:55.320 Israel
01:00:55.820 to
01:00:56.880 mitigate
01:00:57.280 moderate
01:00:57.940 or
01:00:58.440 be
01:00:59.240 very
01:00:59.520 specific
01:01:00.080 in its
01:01:00.480 response
01:01:01.060 to
01:01:01.500 Iranian
01:01:02.020 attacks
01:01:02.500 on
01:01:02.700 Israel
01:01:03.100 they're
01:01:03.400 doing
01:01:03.700 it
01:01:03.900 because
01:01:04.320 they're
01:01:05.060 aspirational
01:01:05.960 they hope
01:01:06.880 that another
01:01:08.260 revolution
01:01:08.960 a second
01:01:09.680 revolution
01:01:10.160 will come
01:01:10.560 to Iran
01:01:11.020 just as the
01:01:11.620 first revolution
01:01:12.440 removed the
01:01:13.500 Shah
01:01:13.760 for good
01:01:14.540 and bad
01:01:14.860 reasons
01:01:15.340 they're
01:01:15.700 hoping
01:01:16.040 that the
01:01:16.400 Iranian
01:01:16.620 people revolt
01:01:17.520 against the
01:01:18.880 government
01:01:19.220 that tyrannizes
01:01:20.400 themselves
01:01:20.760 and the
01:01:21.820 belief
01:01:22.260 is
01:01:22.900 and this
01:01:24.020 also
01:01:24.580 is
01:01:25.700 illumined
01:01:26.340 by
01:01:26.680 US
01:01:27.500 and European
01:01:28.260 aid
01:01:28.840 over the
01:01:29.200 last 10
01:01:29.720 years
01:01:29.980 to Iran
01:01:30.480 which many
01:01:30.920 people decry
01:01:31.660 humanitarian
01:01:32.240 aid
01:01:32.740 that's still
01:01:33.180 being sent
01:01:33.700 there
01:01:33.980 they believe
01:01:35.100 that the
01:01:35.540 Iranian
01:01:35.900 people
01:01:36.440 to have
01:01:36.820 any faith
01:01:37.460 in western
01:01:38.060 democracies
01:01:38.800 and in their
01:01:39.440 support for
01:01:40.180 any homegrown
01:01:41.080 rebellion
01:01:41.620 should not
01:01:42.620 suffer
01:01:43.000 because of
01:01:43.640 the sins
01:01:44.200 of their
01:01:44.980 government
01:01:45.420 so
01:01:46.220 the Israelis
01:01:47.140 were very
01:01:47.800 precise
01:01:48.340 in their
01:01:48.820 response
01:01:49.280 they went
01:01:49.600 after only
01:01:50.200 military
01:01:50.660 targets
01:01:51.300 it's very
01:01:52.240 tough to
01:01:52.740 tell what
01:01:53.440 they hit
01:01:53.920 because of
01:01:54.440 course the
01:01:54.840 Iranians are
01:01:55.280 very good
01:01:55.820 at censoring
01:01:57.460 information
01:01:58.800 coming out of
01:01:59.400 that country
01:01:59.880 so it's been
01:02:00.780 tough for me
01:02:01.400 to even know
01:02:02.300 what really
01:02:02.760 happened on
01:02:03.220 the ground
01:02:03.580 but the
01:02:05.080 amount of
01:02:05.800 aircraft they
01:02:06.560 used and
01:02:07.200 the capacity
01:02:07.960 refueling
01:02:08.700 capacity
01:02:09.260 anti-aircraft
01:02:10.120 capacity
01:02:10.600 suggests
01:02:11.200 highly
01:02:12.240 sophisticated
01:02:12.900 attack
01:02:13.620 is also
01:02:15.220 sending a
01:02:15.700 message to
01:02:16.160 the government
01:02:16.500 in Tehran
01:02:17.140 that they're
01:02:18.240 outclassed
01:02:20.380 in every
01:02:21.520 respect
01:02:22.260 were it
01:02:22.980 come to
01:02:23.440 a full
01:02:23.720 scale war
01:02:24.260 now one
01:02:25.600 of the
01:02:25.820 things that
01:02:26.320 I saw
01:02:26.720 and you
01:02:26.980 can tell
01:02:27.340 me if
01:02:27.620 this is
01:02:27.960 correct
01:02:28.280 or not
01:02:28.720 is that
01:02:29.620 there may
01:02:29.980 be a
01:02:30.400 downstream
01:02:30.960 benefit
01:02:31.680 to our
01:02:33.120 allies
01:02:33.600 in Ukraine
01:02:34.240 because if
01:02:35.900 Israel is
01:02:36.820 taking out
01:02:37.640 military
01:02:38.700 production
01:02:39.220 facilities
01:02:39.880 including
01:02:40.400 those places
01:02:41.180 that produce
01:02:41.900 Iranian
01:02:42.680 military
01:02:43.320 drones
01:02:43.980 that
01:02:44.740 benefits
01:02:45.460 Ukraine
01:02:46.480 because
01:02:47.040 those
01:02:47.340 drones
01:02:47.700 have been
01:02:48.000 used
01:02:48.280 by
01:02:48.480 Russia
01:02:48.880 against
01:02:49.600 the
01:02:49.780 Ukrainian
01:02:50.100 people
01:02:50.580 is that
01:02:50.920 true
01:02:51.220 it's
01:02:52.780 true
01:02:53.180 but it's
01:02:53.660 not as
01:02:54.080 essential
01:02:54.480 or as
01:02:54.820 important
01:02:55.220 as one
01:02:56.340 might hope
01:02:56.900 it was
01:02:57.400 of course
01:02:58.360 North Korea
01:02:58.980 have now
01:02:59.480 become involved
01:03:00.520 in the fight
01:03:01.060 they're now
01:03:01.680 providing weapons
01:03:02.920 to Russia
01:03:03.440 and personnel
01:03:04.520 there are North
01:03:05.200 Koreans
01:03:05.560 fighting in
01:03:06.480 Ukraine
01:03:06.920 now
01:03:07.240 or they
01:03:08.780 may just
01:03:09.280 be limited
01:03:09.740 and they're
01:03:10.020 fighting up
01:03:10.420 to the
01:03:10.720 Kurtz region
01:03:11.380 which is
01:03:11.840 where the
01:03:12.200 Ukrainians
01:03:12.680 have invaded
01:03:13.140 Russia
01:03:13.540 but certainly
01:03:14.240 they're in
01:03:14.740 play
01:03:15.040 and the
01:03:15.980 other thing
01:03:16.300 that is
01:03:16.620 underreported
01:03:17.500 is that
01:03:18.000 Russian
01:03:18.540 domestic
01:03:19.340 military
01:03:20.040 production
01:03:20.660 whether it's
01:03:21.340 shells
01:03:23.700 or helicopters
01:03:25.860 or vehicles
01:03:27.620 has increased
01:03:28.700 by 400%
01:03:29.800 over the last
01:03:30.560 two years
01:03:31.060 and so
01:03:31.440 they're ramping
01:03:32.200 up and
01:03:32.620 they're starting
01:03:33.080 to be able
01:03:33.620 to provide
01:03:34.140 their own
01:03:34.720 munitions
01:03:35.240 and their
01:03:35.700 own armaments
01:03:36.520 which makes
01:03:37.540 it much
01:03:37.900 less
01:03:38.240 dependent
01:03:38.660 on Iranian
01:03:40.180 or even
01:03:40.720 North Korean
01:03:41.340 submissions
01:03:42.120 that's good
01:03:43.960 news
01:03:44.240 well
01:03:44.520 there's other
01:03:45.540 good news
01:03:46.560 this morning
01:03:48.440 that
01:03:49.400 it's
01:03:50.460 Ipsos
01:03:50.940 and ABC
01:03:51.640 indicating
01:03:53.000 that Kamala
01:03:53.680 Harris's
01:03:54.420 national lead
01:03:55.540 has increased
01:03:57.460 by four points
01:03:58.620 in the past
01:03:59.180 few days
01:03:59.680 over Donald
01:04:00.340 Trump
01:04:00.720 and Ipsos
01:04:02.320 as we both
01:04:03.020 know
01:04:03.240 because we
01:04:03.660 both worked
01:04:04.240 with them
01:04:04.520 as a very
01:04:04.980 reputable
01:04:05.540 international
01:04:06.500 polling firm
01:04:07.460 and ABC
01:04:08.560 does a pretty
01:04:09.160 good job
01:04:09.620 too
01:04:10.020 so
01:04:11.580 you know
01:04:12.300 perhaps
01:04:12.760 the barbarians
01:04:13.740 will be kept
01:04:14.340 at bay
01:04:14.880 but
01:04:15.800 let's say
01:04:16.900 they don't
01:04:17.500 let's say
01:04:18.000 what really
01:04:18.540 matters
01:04:19.040 is what
01:04:19.680 really
01:04:19.960 matters
01:04:20.340 is
01:04:20.680 this is
01:04:21.440 a regional
01:04:22.000 race
01:04:22.460 with seven
01:04:23.040 fronts
01:04:23.600 and you know
01:04:24.980 Harris
01:04:25.460 like Clinton
01:04:26.580 wins the
01:04:27.540 popular vote
01:04:28.320 and loses
01:04:28.860 the electoral
01:04:29.440 college
01:04:30.040 does that
01:04:31.040 mean
01:04:31.380 number one
01:04:32.080 that NATO
01:04:33.100 is doomed
01:04:34.080 and does
01:04:35.020 that mean
01:04:35.420 number two
01:04:36.260 address these
01:04:37.040 separately
01:04:37.480 if you could
01:04:38.140 is Ukraine
01:04:39.980 doomed
01:04:40.440 as well
01:04:41.380 does Trump
01:04:42.380 mean it
01:04:42.820 and what
01:04:43.660 are the
01:04:44.080 consequences
01:04:44.680 for NATO
01:04:45.300 and then Ukraine
01:04:46.240 if he wins
01:04:47.180 well you know
01:04:50.080 I can't tell
01:04:51.320 like you
01:04:51.980 I can't see
01:04:52.900 through the fog
01:04:53.540 of war
01:04:54.040 not only
01:04:54.920 as to whether
01:04:55.860 Harris or
01:04:56.560 Trump wins
01:04:57.080 but also
01:04:57.520 as to what
01:04:58.140 Trump actually
01:04:58.920 means
01:04:59.540 when he says
01:05:00.400 something
01:05:00.840 it was only
01:05:02.320 a few years
01:05:02.920 ago
01:05:03.120 Trump's at
01:05:03.780 the table
01:05:04.300 chastising
01:05:05.180 Germany
01:05:06.000 for doing
01:05:06.900 an oil
01:05:07.360 deal
01:05:07.740 with Russia
01:05:08.580 for continuing
01:05:09.460 to rely
01:05:10.200 on Russian
01:05:11.540 oil
01:05:11.880 and Russian
01:05:12.660 natural gas
01:05:13.500 to supply
01:05:14.940 its own
01:05:15.320 domestic
01:05:15.680 needs
01:05:16.160 and he
01:05:16.800 had a
01:05:17.080 point
01:05:17.420 so
01:05:18.900 but let's
01:05:19.900 get into
01:05:20.220 the brass
01:05:20.600 taxes
01:05:20.880 so first
01:05:21.520 when it
01:05:21.780 comes to
01:05:22.200 NATO
01:05:22.540 is NATO
01:05:23.920 a functional
01:05:25.020 entity
01:05:25.380 right now
01:05:26.040 Trump
01:05:26.560 is right
01:05:27.280 and Trump's
01:05:28.300 observation
01:05:28.860 is correct
01:05:29.980 that Canada
01:05:31.220 included
01:05:31.860 and particularly
01:05:32.740 Canada
01:05:33.220 and European
01:05:34.340 countries
01:05:34.820 have been
01:05:35.120 egregious
01:05:35.840 in not
01:05:37.180 meeting
01:05:37.980 their NATO
01:05:38.620 commitments
01:05:39.100 which is
01:05:39.580 supposed to
01:05:40.180 be 2%
01:05:40.940 of your
01:05:41.280 GDP
01:05:41.700 right
01:05:43.040 you're
01:05:43.320 supposed
01:05:43.560 to contribute
01:05:44.100 that
01:05:44.600 as a
01:05:45.160 functioning
01:05:45.700 state
01:05:46.060 there's
01:05:46.620 only a few
01:05:47.240 countries
01:05:47.660 who meet
01:05:48.080 that
01:05:48.300 Britain
01:05:48.640 and France
01:05:49.380 have been
01:05:50.080 meeting
01:05:50.260 Germany
01:05:50.740 is ramping
01:05:51.540 up and
01:05:51.820 meeting
01:05:52.060 Canada
01:05:53.120 is nowhere
01:05:53.620 near its
01:05:54.380 obligations
01:05:54.940 and Trump
01:05:55.600 is rightly
01:05:56.440 is right
01:05:57.920 to protest
01:05:59.380 and say
01:05:59.980 why are we
01:06:01.040 carrying the
01:06:01.760 weight of the
01:06:02.300 world
01:06:02.540 literally
01:06:02.940 carrying the
01:06:03.600 weight of
01:06:03.860 the world
01:06:04.140 on our
01:06:04.540 shoulders
01:06:04.860 on your
01:06:05.380 behalf
01:06:05.760 when Russia
01:06:06.420 your perceived
01:06:07.620 threat is right
01:06:08.220 at your
01:06:08.460 doorstep
01:06:08.920 why
01:06:09.340 are you
01:06:09.800 relying
01:06:10.160 on us
01:06:10.560 so the
01:06:11.640 pressure
01:06:11.980 that he's
01:06:12.460 put to
01:06:12.900 bear
01:06:13.240 unelected
01:06:14.580 and as
01:06:15.180 an elected
01:06:15.580 president
01:06:16.080 as a
01:06:16.900 candidate
01:06:17.240 and as
01:06:17.580 elected
01:06:17.820 president
01:06:18.160 I suppose
01:06:18.620 on NATO
01:06:19.740 to start
01:06:20.500 on all the
01:06:21.480 other member
01:06:22.000 nation states
01:06:22.780 of NATO
01:06:23.120 to start
01:06:23.560 you know
01:06:23.980 bringing
01:06:24.820 their load
01:06:25.520 to the
01:06:25.860 table
01:06:26.200 is probably
01:06:27.360 correct
01:06:28.240 does NATO
01:06:28.940 collapse
01:06:29.340 I don't
01:06:29.660 know
01:06:29.820 I have
01:06:30.120 no such
01:06:30.600 magic ball
01:06:32.260 or crystal
01:06:34.040 ball
01:06:34.380 pardon me
01:06:34.940 to tell
01:06:36.480 you
01:06:36.740 what
01:06:37.100 Trump
01:06:37.460 will
01:06:37.640 actually
01:06:38.040 do
01:06:38.260 when it
01:06:38.500 comes
01:06:38.680 to
01:06:38.820 membership
01:06:39.160 in
01:06:39.420 NATO
01:06:39.640 or
01:06:39.860 membership
01:06:40.240 in
01:06:40.460 the
01:06:40.580 UN
01:06:40.800 which
01:06:41.120 he's
01:06:41.300 also
01:06:41.540 threatened
01:06:41.880 to
01:06:42.080 abandon
01:06:42.460 the
01:06:43.040 second
01:06:43.480 part
01:06:43.760 of the
01:06:43.920 question
01:06:44.200 is
01:06:44.440 let's
01:06:44.900 say
01:06:45.080 that
01:06:45.260 Trump
01:06:45.580 means
01:06:46.240 what
01:06:46.420 he
01:06:46.540 says
01:06:46.820 and says
01:06:47.140 we're
01:06:47.340 not
01:06:47.560 going to
01:06:47.800 send
01:06:48.020 any
01:06:48.340 weapons
01:06:48.780 or
01:06:48.940 any
01:06:49.140 personnel
01:06:49.540 or
01:06:49.760 any
01:06:49.940 trainers
01:06:50.340 to
01:06:50.580 Ukraine
01:06:50.920 anymore
01:06:51.320 and says
01:06:52.380 to
01:06:52.540 Zelensky
01:06:53.240 you've
01:06:53.560 got to
01:06:53.840 go to
01:06:54.040 the
01:06:54.180 table
01:06:54.400 with
01:06:54.620 Putin
01:06:54.900 and
01:06:55.660 you're
01:06:55.840 probably
01:06:56.020 going to
01:06:56.280 have to
01:06:56.660 accede
01:06:57.080 to the
01:06:57.360 fact
01:06:57.580 that
01:06:57.720 you've
01:06:57.920 lost
01:06:58.160 all the
01:06:58.540 land
01:06:58.760 you've
01:06:58.960 already
01:06:59.160 lost
01:06:59.520 and
01:06:59.700 you're
01:06:59.880 going to
01:07:00.060 permanently
01:07:00.380 lose
01:07:00.720 Crimea
01:07:01.160 and
01:07:01.620 those
01:07:01.880 eastern
01:07:02.400 oblasts
01:07:03.140 or
01:07:03.240 provinces
01:07:03.720 as we
01:07:04.180 would
01:07:04.320 call
01:07:04.540 them
01:07:04.720 here
01:07:04.980 and
01:07:05.540 you're
01:07:05.680 going to
01:07:05.840 have
01:07:06.020 to
01:07:06.140 make
01:07:07.780 a
01:07:07.920 commitment
01:07:08.240 that
01:07:08.660 you
01:07:08.880 are
01:07:09.000 never
01:07:09.320 going
01:07:09.520 to
01:07:09.660 join
01:07:09.940 the
01:07:10.140 EU
01:07:10.460 or
01:07:10.940 you're
01:07:11.580 never
01:07:11.820 going
01:07:12.020 to
01:07:12.140 join
01:07:12.380 NATO
01:07:12.660 and
01:07:12.820 you
01:07:12.940 certainly
01:07:13.260 won't
01:07:13.500 have
01:07:13.680 nuclear
01:07:14.060 weapons
01:07:14.520 let's
01:07:14.860 say
01:07:15.000 he
01:07:15.200 says
01:07:15.500 and
01:07:15.660 does
01:07:15.900 that
01:07:16.120 well
01:07:16.860 what's
01:07:17.280 stopping
01:07:17.840 western
01:07:18.740 European
01:07:19.120 nations
01:07:19.740 from
01:07:20.780 picking up
01:07:22.480 the slack
01:07:23.020 if the
01:07:23.980 US backs
01:07:24.480 up
01:07:24.640 certainly
01:07:24.880 Trump
01:07:25.200 can't
01:07:25.580 order
01:07:25.880 Ukraine
01:07:26.320 to
01:07:26.500 stop
01:07:26.760 fighting
01:07:27.120 but
01:07:27.640 here's
01:07:27.920 the
01:07:28.040 problem
01:07:28.420 as of
01:07:29.580 a
01:07:29.700 couple
01:07:29.880 months
01:07:30.220 ago
01:07:30.580 the
01:07:31.100 US
01:07:31.560 had
01:07:31.860 put
01:07:32.140 in
01:07:32.360 about
01:07:32.680 80
01:07:33.200 billion
01:07:33.720 euros
01:07:34.300 towards
01:07:35.360 Ukraine's
01:07:36.040 war
01:07:36.340 effort
01:07:36.720 all
01:07:37.580 of
01:07:38.080 the
01:07:38.480 EU
01:07:38.780 states
01:07:39.240 and
01:07:39.500 Canada
01:07:39.800 combined
01:07:40.240 had
01:07:40.420 only
01:07:40.640 put
01:07:40.900 in
01:07:41.060 40
01:07:41.440 billion
01:07:41.780 which
01:07:42.000 means
01:07:42.300 if
01:07:44.060 you
01:07:44.240 wipe
01:07:44.620 the
01:07:45.540 US
01:07:45.800 out
01:07:46.280 as
01:07:46.420 a
01:07:46.540 contributor
01:07:46.960 the
01:07:48.460 rest
01:07:48.820 of
01:07:49.020 NATO's
01:07:49.680 member
01:07:50.080 nation
01:07:50.420 states
01:07:51.000 including
01:07:51.700 Canada
01:07:52.140 would
01:07:52.340 have
01:07:52.620 to
01:07:52.820 triple
01:07:53.320 the
01:07:53.940 amount
01:07:54.280 they
01:07:54.720 were
01:07:55.020 committing
01:07:55.480 just
01:07:55.900 to
01:07:56.120 keep
01:07:56.400 up
01:07:56.640 the
01:07:57.120 pace
01:07:57.440 of
01:07:57.640 the
01:07:57.800 fighting
01:07:58.100 as
01:07:58.540 it
01:07:58.700 is
01:07:58.920 right
01:07:59.180 now
01:07:59.420 and
01:07:59.640 the
01:07:59.800 problem
01:08:00.260 also
01:08:00.780 of
01:08:01.020 course
01:08:01.200 is
01:08:01.460 that
01:08:01.980 most
01:08:02.340 of
01:08:02.460 the
01:08:02.560 best
01:08:02.820 military
01:08:03.360 technology
01:08:03.940 in the
01:08:04.220 world
01:08:04.480 is
01:08:04.760 built
01:08:05.000 where
01:08:05.280 in
01:08:05.980 the
01:08:06.080 United
01:08:06.260 States
01:08:06.700 Europe
01:08:07.960 is
01:08:08.160 nowhere
01:08:08.560 near
01:08:08.960 them
01:08:09.220 so
01:08:09.920 Ukraine
01:08:10.800 would
01:08:11.180 be
01:08:11.380 in
01:08:11.540 real
01:08:11.800 trouble
01:08:12.120 and
01:08:12.320 would
01:08:12.500 probably
01:08:13.040 be
01:08:13.340 forced
01:08:13.780 to
01:08:13.920 the
01:08:14.040 negotiating
01:08:14.520 table
01:08:14.940 and
01:08:15.660 that's
01:08:15.900 the
01:08:16.020 answer
01:08:16.280 yeah
01:08:16.660 all right
01:08:17.720 thank you
01:08:18.360 very briefly
01:08:19.500 final question
01:08:20.840 for you
01:08:21.520 is
01:08:24.260 there was
01:08:25.120 this
01:08:25.420 so-called
01:08:26.120 revolt
01:08:27.180 rebellion
01:08:27.860 against
01:08:28.360 Justin Trudeau
01:08:29.320 which in
01:08:29.840 my opinion
01:08:30.320 did nothing
01:08:31.360 but solidify
01:08:32.380 his position
01:08:33.460 and you
01:08:34.460 and I
01:08:34.800 exchanged
01:08:35.360 a couple
01:08:35.800 funny
01:08:36.220 text messages
01:08:37.000 this week
01:08:37.560 when we
01:08:37.900 found out
01:08:38.280 that one
01:08:38.620 of the
01:08:38.820 people
01:08:39.060 involved
01:08:39.500 in
01:08:39.660 the
01:08:39.780 rebellion
01:08:40.160 is
01:08:41.060 Al
01:08:41.340 Vaps
01:08:41.640 former
01:08:42.020 president
01:08:42.620 of the
01:08:43.060 Liberal
01:08:43.220 Party
01:08:43.540 of Canada
01:08:44.000 who we
01:08:44.380 both
01:08:44.680 know
01:08:45.000 and some
01:08:46.160 other
01:08:46.400 people
01:08:46.820 who we've
01:08:47.280 never
01:08:47.520 heard of
01:08:48.240 it seems
01:08:49.280 to me
01:08:49.740 that
01:08:50.040 A
01:08:50.320 they
01:08:50.540 failed
01:08:51.040 and B
01:08:51.540 Trudeau's
01:08:52.060 position
01:08:52.500 is stronger
01:08:53.260 internally
01:08:53.900 than it was
01:08:54.480 before
01:08:54.860 what's your
01:08:55.560 view
01:08:55.780 very quickly
01:08:56.380 very quickly
01:08:57.620 I mean I
01:08:57.920 was watching
01:08:58.280 the seed
01:08:58.720 the mothership
01:08:59.400 this morning
01:08:59.960 and I
01:09:00.280 guess that
01:09:00.700 there's a
01:09:01.100 number of
01:09:01.640 liberal
01:09:01.940 MPs
01:09:02.480 who've
01:09:02.740 said shit
01:09:03.240 or get
01:09:03.600 off the
01:09:03.940 pot to
01:09:04.340 Justin
01:09:04.560 Jr.
01:09:04.780 once again
01:09:08.620 smoke
01:09:08.900 in the
01:09:09.140 wind
01:09:09.420 with
01:09:10.620 respect
01:09:11.000 to
01:09:11.200 Alfavs
01:09:11.800 I mean
01:09:12.180 you gotta
01:09:12.560 give him
01:09:12.920 10 out
01:09:13.440 of 10
01:09:13.780 for
01:09:14.000 persistence
01:09:14.620 20 years
01:09:16.780 of failed
01:09:17.360 attempts
01:09:17.960 and coups
01:09:18.600 at leadership
01:09:19.120 and an
01:09:20.540 activity
01:09:21.000 in the
01:09:21.400 back rooms
01:09:21.940 of the
01:09:22.160 parties
01:09:22.440 but mine
01:09:23.000 is a
01:09:23.320 couple
01:09:23.500 million
01:09:23.820 points
01:09:24.220 for clear
01:09:24.620 thinking
01:09:25.000 by the
01:09:26.100 way
01:09:26.360 full
01:09:27.120 transparency
01:09:27.780 Warren
01:09:28.140 told me
01:09:28.560 not to
01:09:29.020 be
01:09:29.180 slanderous
01:09:29.720 or libelous
01:09:30.320 this morning
01:09:30.780 so I'm
01:09:31.200 doing my
01:09:31.600 best not
01:09:32.100 to tell
01:09:32.400 all the
01:09:32.880 jokes
01:09:33.160 that are
01:09:33.480 riling
01:09:33.780 through my
01:09:34.200 mind
01:09:34.480 right now
01:09:34.940 but I
01:09:35.720 did
01:09:36.060 you know
01:09:36.480 I did
01:09:37.120 put on
01:09:37.980 Barbra Streisand's
01:09:39.000 version of
01:09:39.500 memories
01:09:40.000 this morning
01:09:40.720 because I
01:09:41.080 was thinking
01:09:41.440 about Alfavs
01:09:42.420 and the
01:09:42.920 affidavits
01:09:43.580 we filed
01:09:44.040 against him
01:09:44.520 back in
01:09:44.920 the day
01:09:45.300 and how
01:09:48.080 frustrated we
01:09:48.980 were at the
01:09:49.360 state of the
01:09:49.720 liberal party
01:09:50.240 then and I
01:09:51.020 suppose that
01:09:51.640 informs a
01:09:52.200 certain hope
01:09:52.700 that I have
01:09:53.280 that counter
01:09:54.760 intuitively I
01:09:55.560 really think
01:09:56.460 that I'm
01:09:57.440 sort of
01:09:57.880 really hoping
01:09:58.760 that the
01:09:59.080 NDP and
01:09:59.820 the blog
01:10:00.160 get their
01:10:00.640 shit together
01:10:01.300 push us
01:10:02.240 into an
01:10:02.600 election
01:10:03.000 abandon
01:10:03.560 the liberal
01:10:03.960 party
01:10:04.380 Justin Trudeau
01:10:05.440 can then
01:10:05.840 take the
01:10:06.460 hit
01:10:06.740 because I
01:10:07.740 don't know
01:10:08.260 anybody of
01:10:09.080 quality who
01:10:09.660 would want
01:10:10.140 to take
01:10:10.660 over from
01:10:11.380 Trudeau
01:10:11.900 in the
01:10:12.720 current
01:10:13.040 state that
01:10:13.720 our party
01:10:14.580 our former
01:10:15.020 beloved party
01:10:15.800 is in
01:10:16.880 when it
01:10:17.620 comes to
01:10:18.180 organization
01:10:18.960 certainly
01:10:19.800 popularity
01:10:20.480 and candidates
01:10:22.260 that muster
01:10:23.540 any sort of
01:10:24.300 appeal or
01:10:24.940 that are even
01:10:25.400 known to
01:10:25.960 Canadians
01:10:26.340 so Alf
01:10:27.500 if you
01:10:28.280 help push
01:10:28.880 us over
01:10:29.320 that cliff
01:10:29.840 that will
01:10:30.160 be the
01:10:30.480 first useful
01:10:31.120 thing in
01:10:31.680 my opinion
01:10:32.620 hypothetically
01:10:33.760 that you
01:10:34.740 have done
01:10:35.180 in 20
01:10:35.680 years
01:10:36.000 all right
01:10:36.960 that was
01:10:37.320 in no
01:10:37.700 way
01:10:37.880 brief
01:10:38.360 but it
01:10:38.880 was an
01:10:39.200 answer
01:10:39.540 so thank
01:10:40.260 you for
01:10:40.580 that
01:10:40.820 John
01:10:41.160 Mraz
01:10:41.540 verbose
01:10:42.120 as always
01:10:42.840 interesting
01:10:43.940 and as
01:10:45.340 always
01:10:45.860 and not
01:10:46.500 libelous
01:10:47.080 thank you
01:10:47.620 for that
01:10:48.220 I appreciate
01:10:48.840 it
01:10:49.180 John
01:10:49.640 Mraz
01:10:49.880 thank you
01:10:50.260 have a
01:10:50.500 great day
01:10:50.840 and a
01:10:51.020 great week
01:10:51.480 thanks a lot
01:10:52.660 Ico
01:10:52.920 Ico
01:10:52.940 Ico
01:11:22.660 thanks a lot
01:11:23.620 thanks a lot
01:11:24.660 to make
01:11:25.560 myself
01:11:26.300 believe
01:11:26.840 can I keep
01:11:28.000 it all
01:11:28.360 together
01:11:28.860 waiting for
01:11:30.760 the will
01:11:31.240 down
01:11:32.040 can I keep
01:11:33.640 it all
01:11:34.000 together
01:11:34.620 waiting for
01:11:36.380 the will
01:11:37.460 the will
01:11:38.600 the will
01:11:38.780 the will
01:11:40.420 the will
01:11:50.260 think I'm
01:11:50.720 feeling
01:11:51.420 no mind
01:11:53.160 can say
01:11:53.860 yeah
01:11:54.920 my dream
01:11:56.060 won't
01:11:56.400 run
01:11:57.500 got to make
01:11:59.460 myself
01:12:00.620 believe
01:12:01.780 can I keep
01:12:13.160 it all
01:12:13.540 together
01:12:14.000 waiting for
01:12:15.920 the will
01:12:16.440 down
01:12:17.160 can I keep
01:12:18.820 it all
01:12:19.180 together
01:12:19.820 waiting for
01:12:21.560 the will
01:12:22.580 the will
01:12:23.800 the will
01:12:26.660 the will
01:12:29.440 the will
01:12:36.020 we
01:12:38.100 will
01:12:40.340 see
01:12:48.080 here
01:12:49.600 and
01:12:50.200 pause
01:12:50.400 watch
01:12:51.000 concern
01:12:52.440 really
01:12:52.700 doesn't
01:12:52.980 strike
01:12:54.300 it all
01:12:54.660 don't
01:12:54.900 that
01:12:55.680 can
01:12:56.300 want
01:12:56.920 .
01:12:58.000 You