kinsellacast - KINSELLACAST 336： Mraz, Kheririddin, Lilley - sane people on the lunatics running the asylum, plus Iron Chic, Toys That Kill, Dillinger Four, Sebadoh

00:00:00.000 It's the Kinsella Cast, starring Warren Kinsella.

00:00:19.040 Hey, it's Warren, welcome to the Kinsella Cast, and it's a brief Kinsella Cast this week.

00:00:24.440 Tasha Carradine and I, John Rez and I, I'm not sure where Brian really is, but I think

00:00:29.920 him a break, shorter show, and I think I'm entitled to do that, because last week's was

00:00:35.860 a marathon of commentary, and so yeah, shorter this week.

00:00:42.980 I was up in Ottawa and gave a speech to the JNF, and in support of my friend Lisa McLeod,

00:00:51.320 and that was well received, I think, I think.

00:00:55.040 And what else happened?

00:00:58.900 Saw Mr. Kretzian, that was great, it was terrific to see him.

00:01:02.360 Saw my son, saw my buddy Alan, and then I'm back in Toronto this week, going to go to the

00:01:09.920 Giller Prize to support my friend, Ms. Rabinovich, and also speak about the forthcoming documentary,

00:01:19.300 which I'll be telling you guys about in due course.

00:01:22.680 And yeah, so busy, busy until Jingle Bells hits.

00:01:27.960 I've had a request, actually a few of you requested this, that I list, again, the bands and the

00:01:35.240 song titles.

00:01:36.060 I figured all of you were just getting it from Shazam or whatever, but I'll make it easy for

00:01:42.060 you.

00:01:42.260 You're going to hear Iron Sheik.

00:01:43.780 You can't stay safe.

00:01:44.860 They're from Long Island, five-piece there, they kind of, they have this real DIY, do-it-yourself

00:01:50.220 ethic, which is very admirable.

00:01:52.920 Toys That Kill doing a split single with I Am Decided, and I love Joyce Manor, as you

00:02:00.100 guys probably know, but Toys That Kill are from San Pedro, and they've got the better song

00:02:05.960 on the record.

00:02:06.740 Sorry, Joyce Manor.

00:02:07.940 Dillinger 4 I met years ago, or after that, with a jingle for the product, and funny, smart

00:02:20.060 guys.

00:02:20.580 Met them when they were opening for NoFX, and just a great band from Minneapolis.

00:02:27.100 Been around for, Christ, for 30 years.

00:02:31.000 Punk rock's grown old.

00:02:32.160 Um, so, the people are always right.

00:02:36.340 John Turner said that the decade before.

00:02:38.840 He said that on September 4th, 1984, and his Liberal Party, which I had worked for, had

00:02:46.400 just been crushed by Brian Mulroney's conservatives.

00:02:50.440 On that occasion, um, so long ago, it felt like Turner was, was right.

00:02:55.980 The people had spoken.

00:02:57.140 These days, I'm not so sure.

00:02:59.380 These days, it's pretty hard to believe that the people are always right.

00:03:03.040 In the United States of America, for instance, the people chose Donald Trump.

00:03:07.200 It was a free and fair election.

00:03:08.900 Democrats respected the outcome.

00:03:10.660 They didn't convene secret meetings of fake electors.

00:03:13.380 They didn't allege the election had been stolen.

00:03:15.800 They didn't instigate a riot on the Capitol.

00:03:19.980 But in the days since the election, America and the world, and many within Trump's own party,

00:03:25.000 have been shocked by his selections for cabinet.

00:03:27.680 There's Kennedy, Robert Kennedy Jr., who I knew at one point, who famously opposes vaccines,

00:03:34.340 says he's got a worm in his brain.

00:03:36.120 Those two things may be related, actually.

00:03:39.000 He wants, uh, Trump wants to put Kennedy in charge of healthcare for millions of Americans,

00:03:43.500 which has got lots of physicians and experts predicting a return of measles and polio and,

00:03:49.420 and other preventable diseases.

00:03:51.740 There's Tulsi Gabbard, who has been an enthusiastic supporter of Syria's genocidal regime,

00:03:58.360 and he is credibly accused of being a Russian asset.

00:04:02.720 Trump wants her to be in charge of the intelligence community in the United States.

00:04:06.840 There's Matt Gaetz, who's been investigated for sex with a minor.

00:04:10.700 He's a pedophile.

00:04:12.660 Illegal drug use, accepting improper gifts.

00:04:15.000 Trump wants him to be America's Attorney General.

00:04:18.220 There's Pete Hegseth, who's never had a military command role,

00:04:22.660 and said, has said he hasn't washed his hands in a decade because germs aren't real.

00:04:29.660 Okay, did you get that?

00:04:33.060 Then there's Elon Musk, of course, who everybody knows.

00:04:36.060 The billionaire who has been secretly meeting with Iranian officials,

00:04:39.400 which is the New York Times has reported,

00:04:41.800 has delighted the Ayatollahs in Iran, who called it positive and good news.

00:04:47.300 Trump brought Musk in for all kinds of meetings,

00:04:49.960 without ensuring first that the ex-owner has a security clearance.

00:04:55.920 And anyway, up here we've got a Prime Minister who's worn racist black,

00:04:58.900 racist blackface, who's never been cleared of groping a reporter,

00:05:03.180 who's found culpable in multiple corruption scandals,

00:05:06.680 and who A, claims to be anti-racist, B, feminist,

00:05:10.120 C, leading a responsible and ethical government.

00:05:12.880 You've got Montreal's mayor up here,

00:05:14.840 who's appeared indifferent to Jewish schools being shot up

00:05:17.360 and synagogues being firebombed.

00:05:19.340 And then you've got Charles' mayor, similarly responding to attacks on the Jewish community.

00:05:24.840 And she wants bubble zones around bike lanes,

00:05:27.380 but not around places of worship.

00:05:30.480 And then this week, there is the leader of the city of Mississauga.

00:05:36.040 Mississauga, where, by the way,

00:05:38.080 people celebrated Hamas' atrocities on October 7th,

00:05:41.840 and who then went on to elect as mayor, Carolyn Parrish.

00:05:45.920 Here's just a few of the things Parrish has said before she was elected.

00:05:49.860 You can find them all on social media.

00:05:52.320 She's called Israel a permanent occupying force.

00:05:56.120 She's accused Israelis of theft of Hamas-run Gaza.

00:06:01.660 She said Israel has stolen huge tracts of land and is destroying Palestine.

00:06:06.000 She says that conservatives have ruined Canadian credibility for the support of Israel.

00:06:13.060 She said charging Israel with war crimes is legal and a democratic process.

00:06:17.860 She said she supports BDS, boycott, divest, and sanction.

00:06:21.940 She says the Jewish state uses starvation as a technique of war.

00:06:30.200 And she's defended the tunnels that Hamas built,

00:06:33.020 said they're just for food, goods, medical supplies, water,

00:06:36.100 and not to hold prisoners hostage,

00:06:38.920 and not to plan a pogrom against Israel.

00:06:43.340 Anyway, and then this week, of course, famously,

00:06:46.740 she compared Nelson Mandela,

00:06:50.960 Nobel Prize recipient,

00:06:53.160 to Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar,

00:06:56.840 who devised October 7th,

00:06:58.920 which is the biggest mass murder Jew since the Holocaust.

00:07:03.080 There's a lot more, if you have a stomach for it,

00:07:06.200 but Trump and Trudeau and Parrish and Plante and Chow,

00:07:11.220 they're not the only mistakes that people have made.

00:07:15.020 Are the people always right?

00:07:16.680 No.

00:07:17.840 In fact, these days, the people are often wrong.

00:07:21.720 But they always, always end up getting the governments they deserve.

00:07:41.220 Thank you.

00:07:42.720 guitar solo

00:08:12.720 guitar solo

00:08:42.720 Be scared of what's too hard

00:08:46.980 Sing a prayer with a melody

00:08:49.960 Just breathing is hard enough

00:08:54.720 You can't stay safe

00:08:58.180 You can't stay here

00:09:01.720 You can't face the memory

00:09:04.720 Be careful with what you love

00:09:09.880 Everything you love

00:09:12.500 It's easy for seven times

00:09:17.500 You can't stay safe

00:09:20.880 You can't stay here

00:09:26.080 Yes, I can't stay

00:09:34.780 Yes, I can't stay here

00:09:38.080 And we're back

00:09:41.400 And we're back with John Merez and John

00:09:43.520 I don't know if you can hear

00:09:44.340 But there's like crows crowing

00:09:46.720 And I'm in my backyard here

00:09:49.220 In Prince Edward County

00:09:50.380 With my puppy, Tommy

00:09:52.080 Tommy, you haven't met him yet

00:09:53.980 He's this black lab

00:09:55.960 And he's going to be really big

00:09:57.740 And he's pretty smart

00:09:59.120 So I thought

00:09:59.640 Let's just make this podcast authentic

00:10:02.280 To start and be out in the backyard

00:10:04.780 And ask John Merez

00:10:07.880 This is like the worst segue ever

00:10:10.340 John, like

00:10:12.540 Has the United States of America lost its mind?

00:10:16.040 Like, you know, a Russian asset

00:10:19.860 In charge of national intelligence

00:10:21.860 A pedophile attorney general

00:10:25.840 A guy with a worm in his brain

00:10:27.940 In charge of health care

00:10:29.080 Like, have they lost their minds?

00:10:31.680 Or have we?

00:10:33.040 I like the guy who's now in charge of the military

00:10:35.540 Who hasn't washed his hands in 10 years

00:10:37.700 Because he doesn't believe germs exist

00:10:39.580 You know, if I had told you

00:10:42.500 This was going to happen 10 years ago

00:10:43.960 You would have lost my phone number forever

00:10:46.160 I would say this

00:10:47.960 This is like

00:10:48.720 I was trying to think of the appropriate expression

00:10:51.580 For the shura of dingbats

00:10:55.360 It's a murder of cockwombles

00:10:57.740 It's an unbelievable assembly

00:11:00.240 You think of Lincoln's team of rivals

00:11:02.600 These extraordinary five men

00:11:04.280 Who changed the nature of slavery

00:11:05.900 And brought the Civil War to an end

00:11:08.000 And then you look at these guys

00:11:09.420 And here's how we know

00:11:11.440 That the world is thrilled

00:11:13.180 China, Russia, and India

00:11:15.180 Have all said

00:11:16.460 We love these appointments

00:11:18.660 Which is to say

00:11:21.020 They see a weakness in America now

00:11:22.880 Now, I want to add one final thing

00:11:24.940 I have maintained to my son

00:11:26.600 And anybody who listened for decades

00:11:28.420 That politics is really about money

00:11:30.880 And kitchen cabinets

00:11:33.360 And you know there's some truth to that

00:11:35.340 The people who really make decisions

00:11:38.120 I like to believe

00:11:39.340 Are not the politicians themselves

00:11:41.120 They're advisors

00:11:41.900 They're experts

00:11:43.180 They're smart

00:11:43.800 Maybe

00:11:44.820 These people are just sock puppets

00:11:47.180 For

00:11:47.540 A new regime

00:11:49.500 An economic regime

00:11:50.480 And nothing will happen

00:11:51.440 I liked what you posted this week

00:11:53.000 You said

00:11:53.300 Maybe he's not a fascist

00:11:54.820 I'd like to hope so

00:11:56.700 But this looks bananas to me

00:11:59.400 It does

00:12:01.020 Because these people

00:12:02.380 Have real power

00:12:03.940 As I said on CFRA this morning

00:12:05.740 Like they arguably

00:12:07.440 These cabinet secretaries

00:12:09.380 Have more power

00:12:10.660 Than any Canadian prime minister

00:12:13.320 You know

00:12:13.960 In terms of trade

00:12:14.980 In terms of intelligence

00:12:16.500 In terms of healthcare

00:12:17.520 Like you know

00:12:18.340 If we have another pandemic

00:12:19.440 And we do at the moment

00:12:20.660 We have an outbreak

00:12:22.420 Of bird flu

00:12:23.320 Out in BC

00:12:24.160 A kid has got bird flu

00:12:26.760 And is in critical condition

00:12:28.220 And they don't know how he got it

00:12:29.980 Because he wasn't near

00:12:30.880 Any flocks of birds

00:12:32.240 So if we have another pandemic

00:12:34.180 You know

00:12:36.080 And you've got a guy like

00:12:37.620 Bobby Kennedy Jr.

00:12:39.940 In charge of the system

00:12:41.180 Like isn't that bad news

00:12:43.160 For Canada?

00:12:45.560 I don't know

00:12:46.400 Two thoughts on this

00:12:47.240 One is

00:12:47.920 You and I both worked

00:12:49.320 In governments

00:12:49.860 And seen bureaucrats

00:12:51.180 Manage to obstruct

00:12:52.960 Bad decisions

00:12:54.080 Just through intransigence

00:12:55.680 Not getting it done

00:12:57.160 Losing files

00:12:58.080 Etc

00:12:58.480 So maybe that's

00:12:59.820 Part of the solution

00:13:00.600 The other thing is

00:13:01.380 There's some entitlement here

00:13:03.080 When you talk about

00:13:03.820 Bird flu on the west coast

00:13:05.200 Of Canada

00:13:05.700 I lived in Africa

00:13:06.980 As you know

00:13:07.720 For quite a while

00:13:08.740 At points

00:13:09.220 They have dengue

00:13:10.680 Yellow fever

00:13:11.500 Malaria

00:13:12.140 And 60 other

00:13:14.360 Pandemics

00:13:15.720 Every day

00:13:17.480 And they get through life

00:13:18.960 So perhaps

00:13:20.040 And then you go to RFK

00:13:21.840 The guy who like

00:13:22.520 Buried a bear

00:13:23.360 In Central Park

00:13:24.140 I don't even know

00:13:24.620 What to do with that

00:13:25.340 But

00:13:25.560 And you know

00:13:27.460 Who's actually

00:13:29.220 Smoked more cigarettes

00:13:30.180 Than I have

00:13:30.860 Listen to his

00:13:31.680 Anyway

00:13:32.160 He was a dealer

00:13:34.260 At Harvard

00:13:34.880 He was the guy

00:13:35.660 You went to

00:13:36.160 To get heroin

00:13:36.820 Like

00:13:37.280 Well he was a junkie

00:13:38.300 For 12 years

00:13:38.960 You know

00:13:39.280 And I admire the fact

00:13:40.400 That he quit

00:13:41.440 But he's not

00:13:42.280 Necessarily qualified

00:13:43.560 He's going around

00:13:44.920 Saying he doesn't want

00:13:45.760 Vaccines of any sort

00:13:47.240 Whatsoever

00:13:47.860 You want to talk

00:13:49.780 About a genocide

00:13:50.480 Anyway

00:13:52.040 I have trouble

00:13:53.940 Believing that

00:13:54.800 Any of this

00:13:55.380 Will happen

00:13:55.820 Or it's true

00:13:56.380 Because if I did

00:13:58.100 I mean

00:13:59.660 I'd be moving

00:14:00.380 To Thunder Bay

00:14:01.040 And getting off

00:14:01.900 The grid

00:14:02.320 Because this is

00:14:03.200 Madness

00:14:04.240 Well you sound

00:14:05.300 Like you're trying

00:14:05.760 To convince yourself

00:14:06.400 Okay well then

00:14:07.020 How about a subject

00:14:07.840 That you know

00:14:09.000 A lot about

00:14:09.760 Which is

00:14:11.260 Intelligence

00:14:12.100 And national

00:14:12.960 Intelligence

00:14:13.540 And security

00:14:14.360 Concerns

00:14:15.140 Of nations

00:14:16.240 Tulsi Gabbard

00:14:17.700 The former

00:14:18.360 So she belongs

00:14:19.080 To a religious cult

00:14:20.240 Was a democrat

00:14:22.040 Became a republican

00:14:23.600 In the past few weeks

00:14:25.360 And she is

00:14:27.800 An enthusiastic

00:14:29.640 And open supporter

00:14:30.740 Of the genocidal regime

00:14:33.160 Of Bashar al-Assad

00:14:34.400 In Syria

00:14:35.240 Has received money

00:14:37.880 From the Syrian government

00:14:39.120 We know

00:14:40.260 It is believed

00:14:42.560 By many reasonable people

00:14:44.320 That she's a Russian asset

00:14:45.600 What does it mean

00:14:46.880 For the world

00:14:47.780 And the United States

00:14:49.440 If she

00:14:50.000 Is put in charge

00:14:51.280 Of the intelligence

00:14:52.280 Establishment

00:14:53.160 Is she related

00:14:54.700 To Melanie Jolie

00:14:55.680 That's what I keep

00:14:57.160 On wondering

00:14:57.560 I think Melanie Jolie

00:14:58.900 Is Albert Einstein

00:14:59.780 I don't know

00:15:00.360 Once again

00:15:01.060 I like to think

00:15:01.720 The United States

00:15:02.480 Is famous

00:15:03.140 In its democratic system

00:15:04.520 Or republican system

00:15:05.380 Very different than ours

00:15:06.180 For checks and balances

00:15:07.460 Those checks and balances

00:15:09.480 Are not just a simple

00:15:10.820 Like you know

00:15:11.480 Senate, congress

00:15:12.480 President

00:15:13.120 And the supreme court

00:15:14.440 There are lots of checks

00:15:15.460 And balances

00:15:15.900 All the way down

00:15:16.860 So I don't know

00:15:17.840 What it means

00:15:18.300 I do know

00:15:19.240 That she's being promoted

00:15:21.460 As all I've ever seen

00:15:23.920 Online on three different platforms

00:15:25.820 Is her in a bathing suit

00:15:27.160 And she's a very beautiful woman

00:15:28.540 And I know it's unfashionable

00:15:30.100 To be straight

00:15:30.680 But I would say that

00:15:31.560 You know

00:15:32.380 She's a beautiful woman

00:15:34.600 But I'm not sure

00:15:37.540 We know who these people

00:15:39.000 Really are

00:15:39.880 Because I'm not sure

00:15:41.360 I believe

00:15:41.800 Anything coming out

00:15:42.780 Of the left

00:15:43.180 Or the right

00:15:43.880 Maybe they're capable

00:15:44.800 A bunch of them

00:15:46.000 Got degrees

00:15:46.640 To pretty fine schools

00:15:48.220 And they've survived

00:15:50.020 Politics for long periods

00:15:51.460 Of time

00:15:51.960 And they seem to be

00:15:53.240 Playing the Trump game

00:15:54.100 Of bombastic

00:15:55.540 Outrageous rhetoric

00:15:56.820 But as I recall

00:15:58.720 Not that I liked

00:15:59.580 The first Trump administration

00:16:00.800 The way he handled COVID

00:16:01.860 The world did not end

00:16:03.440 Yeah

00:16:05.660 But you know

00:16:06.660 Several million people

00:16:07.800 Did die needlessly

00:16:08.980 There was that

00:16:09.940 But

00:16:10.960 And

00:16:11.560 You know

00:16:12.880 And bad things

00:16:13.760 Did happen

00:16:14.520 In the Trump years

00:16:15.720 You know

00:16:16.060 I guess the price of eggs

00:16:17.140 Was a bit cheaper

00:16:17.980 But

00:16:18.400 But you know

00:16:19.520 Again

00:16:20.020 The only thing

00:16:21.420 I learned in law school

00:16:22.420 When I got at the other end

00:16:23.560 Of it is

00:16:24.020 To ask myself

00:16:25.700 Always

00:16:26.280 What if I'm wrong

00:16:27.420 What if I'm wrong

00:16:28.820 Like

00:16:29.320 You know

00:16:30.040 Let's take a look

00:16:30.800 At Matt Gaetz

00:16:32.440 As attorney general

00:16:33.940 He said he wants

00:16:34.740 To get rid of the FBI

00:16:35.780 He wants to use

00:16:37.800 The

00:16:38.200 Justice Department

00:16:39.820 As a

00:16:41.220 Vehicle

00:16:42.640 To

00:16:43.620 Go after

00:16:44.980 Trump's enemies

00:16:45.840 And his enemies

00:16:47.420 Like

00:16:48.100 Does that not

00:16:49.440 Undermine confidence

00:16:50.680 In the rule of law

00:16:51.840 In the United States

00:16:52.560 Or

00:16:52.760 Should we

00:16:53.480 Give a shit about that

00:16:54.600 Well

00:16:55.260 By Occam's razor

00:16:56.140 I would think

00:16:56.580 The first thing he'd do

00:16:57.540 Is to

00:16:58.180 Cull

00:16:58.660 Or eliminate

00:16:59.340 The investigation

00:17:00.160 Into his

00:17:01.660 They used to call it

00:17:02.520 Statutory rape

00:17:03.240 But now it's called

00:17:03.880 Trafficking

00:17:04.540 Of a 17 year old

00:17:06.320 Yeah

00:17:07.160 Yeah

00:17:08.100 I saw this video

00:17:11.160 Just to

00:17:11.640 Go to a different

00:17:12.540 The other day

00:17:13.800 Online

00:17:14.220 Of Trump preparing

00:17:15.220 For a debate

00:17:15.880 In the back room

00:17:17.140 Warren

00:17:17.500 We've been in that

00:17:18.200 Back room

00:17:18.560 We've both

00:17:19.000 Been there

00:17:19.880 With big politicians

00:17:21.180 Before debates

00:17:21.980 Trump is

00:17:23.300 Sanguine

00:17:23.960 Listening to advice

00:17:25.220 Making sense

00:17:26.260 He walks on stage

00:17:27.560 And becomes

00:17:28.420 A gibbering idiot

00:17:29.640 Word salad

00:17:30.860 What did he call it

00:17:32.040 Like

00:17:32.220 The wedge

00:17:33.680 Yeah

00:17:34.540 No the weave

00:17:35.500 He called it the weave

00:17:36.780 The weave

00:17:37.860 Pardon me

00:17:38.260 I asked myself

00:17:39.800 Is this all an act

00:17:41.200 And I just hope so

00:17:43.480 I guess

00:17:43.920 I'm trying to be

00:17:44.600 Optimistic

00:17:45.140 But commenters

00:17:46.180 Commenters

00:17:47.000 The commentariat

00:17:47.860 Have been saying that

00:17:49.060 For 10 years

00:17:50.160 Oh he couldn't

00:17:50.820 Possibly be serious

00:17:52.300 But you look at

00:17:53.480 Something like

00:17:53.960 Project 25

00:17:54.900 And it strongly

00:17:56.140 Suggests

00:17:56.900 That he is

00:17:57.640 Or if he's not

00:17:58.700 The people

00:17:59.620 That he's empowered

00:18:00.480 Some of whom

00:18:01.200 We've just talked

00:18:01.940 About

00:18:02.340 Are serious

00:18:03.400 So let's

00:18:04.200 Let's move it

00:18:05.040 To Canada then

00:18:05.920 Which we both

00:18:06.980 Know a bit more

00:18:07.920 About

00:18:08.380 So

00:18:09.280 You know

00:18:10.320 20% tariffs

00:18:12.200 On

00:18:12.640 Canadian softwood

00:18:14.400 And auto parts

00:18:15.500 And agricultural

00:18:16.860 Products

00:18:17.740 And you know

00:18:19.520 Kicking people

00:18:20.500 Out of the United States

00:18:21.600 Who then

00:18:22.080 It's expected

00:18:23.140 Reasonably

00:18:23.780 Would flood

00:18:24.240 Across our borders

00:18:25.360 Like what is

00:18:26.580 All of this

00:18:27.400 Madness

00:18:28.140 Because that's

00:18:28.580 What it seems

00:18:29.040 Like to me

00:18:29.700 What does this

00:18:30.700 Madness mean

00:18:31.460 For Canada

00:18:32.100 Well if you're

00:18:34.640 Donald Trump

00:18:35.140 And you don't

00:18:35.480 Want to deal

00:18:35.800 With Justin Trudeau

00:18:36.540 And he clearly

00:18:37.000 Hates him

00:18:37.540 And his government

00:18:38.300 And you want

00:18:39.240 Pierre Polly

00:18:39.720 Avga

00:18:40.060 Because he's

00:18:40.620 Somebody you

00:18:41.340 Identify with

00:18:42.180 At least some

00:18:42.800 Of his policies

00:18:43.520 Although he

00:18:44.300 Makes Trump

00:18:44.800 Look

00:18:45.040 And Pierre

00:18:46.760 Looks just

00:18:47.260 Angelic

00:18:47.920 Compared to

00:18:48.280 Trump

00:18:48.500 Wouldn't you

00:18:50.760 Threaten all

00:18:51.600 Of those things

00:18:52.540 To ensure

00:18:54.400 A quick election

00:18:55.340 And the rise

00:18:56.760 To power

00:18:57.260 Of somebody

00:18:57.820 Who was

00:18:58.160 Prepared

00:18:58.680 To work

00:18:59.540 With Donald

00:18:59.980 Trump

00:19:00.260 One of the

00:19:00.960 Interesting

00:19:01.340 Things about

00:19:02.440 Project

00:19:04.060 You know

00:19:04.820 That was written

00:19:05.340 And everybody

00:19:05.800 Talks about

00:19:06.380 The secret

00:19:06.860 Document

00:19:07.280 The manifesto

00:19:08.120 Of the

00:19:08.340 Trumpians

00:19:08.880 Is

00:19:10.800 There is

00:19:11.960 Illusions to

00:19:13.460 And if Canada

00:19:14.520 Or Mexico

00:19:14.940 Get in the way

00:19:15.500 We'll just

00:19:16.100 Take them

00:19:17.060 They're states

00:19:18.100 Anyway

00:19:18.520 That's the

00:19:19.680 Subtext of that

00:19:20.460 Document

00:19:20.900 We own

00:19:22.500 The economy

00:19:22.880 And

00:19:23.660 In Veritas

00:19:25.820 They do

00:19:26.520 Right

00:19:27.600 Without the

00:19:28.240 American economy

00:19:28.900 Right next to us

00:19:29.580 I don't know

00:19:29.940 What we'd be doing

00:19:30.720 I mean

00:19:31.140 So

00:19:32.320 I

00:19:33.240 You know

00:19:33.680 Trump says

00:19:34.300 A lot of stuff

00:19:35.060 The minute

00:19:36.600 That he was

00:19:37.500 The president

00:19:38.020 Elected

00:19:38.760 Yemen

00:19:39.080 Is out of

00:19:39.700 The war

00:19:40.260 Hamas

00:19:41.000 Wants

00:19:41.360 You know

00:19:42.040 Hezbollah

00:19:42.920 At the table

00:19:43.720 Putin

00:19:44.280 Is sending

00:19:45.320 Messages

00:19:45.780 Through his

00:19:46.380 National media

00:19:47.580 Who knows

00:19:48.020 Who he's

00:19:48.280 Talking to

00:19:48.860 The world

00:19:49.660 Did change

00:19:50.180 The Dow

00:19:50.620 And the

00:19:50.840 Nasdaq

00:19:51.360 Went up

00:19:51.780 Through immediate

00:19:53.080 Effects

00:19:53.540 Just as a result

00:19:54.480 Of the potential

00:19:55.540 That he could

00:19:57.640 Bring to the table

00:19:58.400 And so he talks

00:19:59.220 About these

00:19:59.560 Terrorists with

00:20:00.040 Canada

00:20:00.400 He doesn't

00:20:01.800 Want software

00:20:02.380 Lumber

00:20:03.240 Disputes

00:20:03.680 He wants

00:20:04.080 NAFTA

00:20:04.580 To be

00:20:05.100 American

00:20:05.640 Driven

00:20:06.020 And by

00:20:06.540 Proportion

00:20:07.060 It is

00:20:07.660 And I

00:20:08.380 Like his

00:20:08.840 Threat

00:20:09.080 By the way

00:20:09.540 I hate

00:20:09.940 Saying this

00:20:10.280 I like

00:20:10.700 His

00:20:10.860 Threat

00:20:11.040 We should

00:20:11.660 Pay 2%

00:20:12.340 Of our

00:20:12.620 GDP

00:20:12.920 Towards

00:20:13.360 NATO

00:20:13.600 I agree

00:20:14.420 I said

00:20:14.820 The same

00:20:15.140 Thing

00:20:15.380 On CFR

00:20:15.940 Okay

00:20:16.620 Well let's

00:20:17.040 Talk about

00:20:17.540 Then finally

00:20:18.320 Final question

00:20:19.800 To you

00:20:20.340 For this

00:20:21.880 Week's show

00:20:22.600 Is a subject

00:20:23.440 We've talked

00:20:24.000 About quite a

00:20:24.640 Bit in the

00:20:25.120 Past three

00:20:25.580 Years

00:20:25.820 Which is

00:20:26.220 Ukraine

00:20:26.640 So you

00:20:28.000 Had musk

00:20:28.740 And one

00:20:30.180 Of trump's

00:20:30.840 Bastard sons

00:20:31.720 Openly

00:20:32.580 Mocking

00:20:33.140 Vladimir

00:20:34.200 Zelensky

00:20:34.900 On social

00:20:35.840 Media this

00:20:36.420 Week

00:20:36.740 And

00:20:37.420 Zelensky

00:20:38.360 Is out

00:20:38.680 There

00:20:39.000 Saying I

00:20:39.920 Think things

00:20:40.400 Will be

00:20:40.640 Better

00:20:40.980 With trump

00:20:41.540 Than it

00:20:41.880 Actually

00:20:42.180 Was with

00:20:42.660 Biden

00:20:43.020 And again

00:20:43.960 Sounds like

00:20:44.700 He's trying

00:20:45.160 To convince

00:20:45.600 Himself

00:20:46.000 Of that

00:20:46.380 I

00:20:47.120 I don't

00:20:47.760 Think anybody

00:20:48.240 Believes

00:20:48.760 That

00:20:49.040 Do you

00:20:49.480 Do you

00:20:49.800 Think that

00:20:50.260 I think

00:20:51.260 The trump

00:20:51.640 Guys mean

00:20:52.200 It

00:20:52.360 I think

00:20:52.680 They're

00:20:52.840 Going to

00:20:53.020 Cut

00:20:53.260 Ukraine

00:20:53.720 Off

00:20:54.060 I'm

00:20:55.480 Going to

00:20:55.620 Get in

00:20:55.820 A world

00:20:56.160 Of shit

00:20:56.460 For saying

00:20:56.840 So well

00:20:57.260 But what

00:20:57.520 I really

00:20:57.760 Think

00:20:57.960 My son

00:20:58.800 Had

00:20:59.080 One of

00:20:59.900 His best

00:21:00.180 Friends

00:21:00.420 He's

00:21:00.580 Ukrainian

00:21:01.000 His whole

00:21:01.800 Family

00:21:02.120 Have left

00:21:02.600 And I

00:21:04.300 Love this

00:21:04.740 Kid

00:21:04.980 He's been

00:21:05.320 Around my

00:21:05.680 House for

00:21:06.020 Ten years

00:21:06.400 And he

00:21:06.660 Asked me

00:21:07.140 Malik

00:21:08.240 Malik asked

00:21:08.880 Me

00:21:09.140 He said

00:21:09.920 What's

00:21:10.520 Going to

00:21:10.700 Happen

00:21:11.400 And

00:21:11.820 Which is

00:21:12.900 Ironic

00:21:13.280 Because I'm

00:21:13.900 Not Ukrainian

00:21:14.420 But I did

00:21:14.880 Spend a lot

00:21:15.300 Of time

00:21:15.620 There

00:21:15.800 And I

00:21:16.020 Said this

00:21:16.340 Is what's

00:21:16.680 Going to

00:21:16.860 Happen

00:21:17.500 This

00:21:18.880 Managed

00:21:20.300 War

00:21:20.700 That has

00:21:21.440 Provided

00:21:22.040 Three

00:21:23.080 Continents

00:21:23.880 Manufacturing

00:21:24.960 Capital

00:21:25.480 That kept

00:21:27.060 Economies

00:21:27.660 Float

00:21:28.140 Whether it's

00:21:28.680 Biden

00:21:29.020 Or Putin

00:21:29.580 Or the

00:21:30.240 EU's

00:21:30.860 Well now

00:21:32.740 It's starting

00:21:33.100 To hurt

00:21:33.440 Them

00:21:33.620 And the

00:21:34.620 War will

00:21:34.960 End

00:21:35.260 And Ukraine

00:21:36.480 Will be

00:21:37.400 Subject

00:21:37.780 Probably to

00:21:38.380 Losing at

00:21:38.840 At least

00:21:39.140 Ten if

00:21:39.600 Not

00:21:39.740 Twenty

00:21:40.000 Percent

00:21:40.280 Of

00:21:40.400 Its

00:21:40.540 Land

00:21:40.900 Because

00:21:41.900 America

00:21:42.380 Provides

00:21:42.820 80 percent

00:21:43.400 Of the

00:21:43.640 Capital

00:21:44.000 And the

00:21:44.440 Weapons

00:21:44.800 That

00:21:45.060 Ukraine

00:21:45.380 Needs

00:21:45.720 And

00:21:45.980 Europe

00:21:46.280 Can't

00:21:46.660 Catch

00:21:46.900 Up

00:21:47.060 Nor

00:21:47.320 Does

00:21:47.480 It

00:21:47.580 Have

00:21:47.740 The

00:21:47.900 Capital

00:21:48.280 And

00:21:49.240 It's

00:21:49.400 Got

00:21:49.520 Russia

00:21:49.780 Right

00:21:50.000 Next

00:21:50.240 Door

00:21:50.560 Without

00:21:51.580 America

00:21:52.140 That

00:21:53.640 War

00:21:54.060 Is

00:21:54.760 But what

00:21:56.320 Of course

00:21:56.820 Will

00:21:57.660 There'll

00:21:57.920 Be an

00:21:58.160 Intifada

00:21:58.720 If you

00:21:59.000 Want to

00:21:59.200 Call it

00:21:59.520 In

00:21:59.760 Ukraine

00:22:00.280 And people

00:22:01.380 Will continue

00:22:02.140 To fight

00:22:03.180 The Russians

00:22:03.680 By sniping

00:22:04.440 Etc

00:22:04.740 So it'll

00:22:05.200 Be

00:22:05.320 Destabilized

00:22:06.400 You'll

00:22:06.740 Be in

00:22:06.920 Northern

00:22:07.160 Ireland

00:22:07.540 Yeah

00:22:07.920 No I've

00:22:08.320 Felt

00:22:08.480 The same

00:22:08.840 Thing

00:22:09.160 It's

00:22:09.420 Let

00:22:09.620 The

00:22:09.760 Ukrainians

00:22:10.900 Are not

00:22:11.220 Going to

00:22:11.480 Roll over

00:22:11.980 They're

00:22:12.200 Just

00:22:12.340 Going to

00:22:12.560 Kill

00:22:12.740 A lot

00:22:13.020 Of

00:22:13.140 Russian

00:22:13.480 Occupiers

00:22:14.200 That's

00:22:15.220 Exactly

00:22:15.620 Right

00:22:15.900 So

00:22:16.200 I said

00:22:17.120 Malik

00:22:17.360 I'm

00:22:17.540 Really

00:22:17.880 Sorry

00:22:18.340 And

00:22:18.700 Ukraine

00:22:19.180 Will

00:22:19.500 Be

00:22:19.780 Hobbled

00:22:20.400 By

00:22:20.700 Its

00:22:21.000 Debt

00:22:21.460 And

00:22:21.700 The

00:22:21.840 Carnage

00:22:22.200 I mean

00:22:22.420 You

00:22:22.840 Probably

00:22:23.040 Saw

00:22:23.320 Last

00:22:23.660 Night

00:22:23.940 Russia

00:22:25.080 Feels

00:22:26.100 Quite

00:22:26.840 Confident

00:22:27.440 They threw

00:22:29.100 200

00:22:29.740 Missiles and

00:22:30.740 Drones

00:22:30.960 Combined

00:22:31.580 And the

00:22:32.160 Largest

00:22:32.600 Assault

00:22:33.120 In

00:22:33.320 Over

00:22:33.600 A

00:22:33.800 Year

00:22:34.000 And

00:22:34.280 Nailed

00:22:34.580 Energy

00:22:35.300 Infrastructure

00:22:36.040 At

00:22:36.420 That

00:22:36.660 And

00:22:37.440 Nobody

00:22:38.100 Has

00:22:38.560 Said

00:22:38.760 A

00:22:38.880 Word

00:22:39.180 Yeah

00:22:40.320 And

00:22:41.220 Ukraine

00:22:41.480 Also

00:22:41.760 Has

00:22:41.900 Another

00:22:42.160 Problem

00:22:42.560 They

00:22:42.920 Can't

00:22:43.520 Find

00:22:43.800 Enough

00:22:44.040 Young

00:22:44.300 Men

00:22:44.520 And

00:22:44.680 Women

00:22:44.920 To

00:22:45.520 Go

00:22:45.740 And

00:22:46.100 Take

00:22:46.420 This

00:22:46.640 Fight

00:22:46.880 On

00:22:47.180 Because

00:22:48.320 It's

00:22:48.560 A

00:22:48.660 Slaughterhouse

00:22:49.360 I'm

00:22:49.840 Not

00:22:49.980 Sure

00:22:50.140 I

00:22:50.340 You know

00:22:51.200 Patriot

00:22:51.760 Or

00:22:51.860 Not

00:22:52.060 That's

00:22:52.320 A

00:22:52.440 Very

00:22:52.680 Tough

00:22:53.000 Battle

00:22:53.300 To

00:22:53.500 Join

00:22:53.720 So

00:22:54.400 I

00:22:54.780 Am

00:22:55.120 Savagely

00:22:56.680 Depressed

00:22:57.300 And

00:22:57.960 Just

00:22:59.400 Just

00:22:59.980 Stupefied

00:23:01.040 That

00:23:01.460 The

00:23:01.620 World

00:23:01.920 Did

00:23:02.240 Not

00:23:02.580 Give

00:23:02.840 Ukraine

00:23:03.300 The

00:23:03.500 Help

00:23:03.720 It

00:23:03.860 Needed

00:23:04.160 Immediately

00:23:04.840 And

00:23:05.940 We

00:23:06.100 Go

00:23:06.260 Back

00:23:06.500 To

00:23:06.660 It

00:23:06.840 I've

00:23:07.180 Sent it

00:23:07.460 On

00:23:07.580 This

00:23:07.700 Podcast

00:23:08.080 For

00:23:08.300 Two

00:23:08.460 Years

00:23:08.660 It

00:23:08.840 Looks

00:23:09.060 Like

00:23:09.200 A

00:23:09.340 Managed

00:23:09.740 War

00:23:09.980 To

00:23:10.100 Me

00:23:10.240 It

00:23:11.920 Is

00:23:13.000 A

00:23:13.140 Depressing

00:23:13.560 Time

00:23:14.060 But

00:23:14.620 I'm

00:23:15.440 In

00:23:15.560 The

00:23:15.680 Backyard

00:23:16.160 With

00:23:16.420 My

00:23:16.600 Puppy

00:23:16.980 So

00:23:17.440 You

00:23:17.940 Know

00:23:18.140 That's

00:23:18.580 What

00:23:18.700 I'm

00:23:18.860 Focused

00:23:19.200 On

00:23:19.500 I

00:23:19.660 Turned

00:23:19.900 On

00:23:20.080 CNN

00:23:20.400 And

00:23:20.680 The

00:23:20.800 New

00:23:20.880 York

00:23:21.040 Times

00:23:21.340 So

00:23:21.480 I'm

00:23:21.580 Just

00:23:21.740 Going

00:23:21.900 To

00:23:22.040 Focus

00:23:22.720 On

00:23:22.920 The

00:23:23.020 Puppy

00:23:23.320 But

00:23:24.020 Thank

00:23:24.320 You

00:23:24.640 Sir

00:23:25.360 As

00:23:25.760 Always

00:23:26.140 For

00:23:26.340 Your

00:23:26.500 Words

00:23:26.840 Of

00:23:27.100 Wisdom

00:23:27.560 And

00:23:28.700 You

00:23:29.920 Know

00:23:30.040 I

00:23:30.140 Hope

00:23:30.400 We're

00:23:31.600 Both

00:23:31.820 Wrong

00:23:32.100 I

00:23:32.320 Hope

00:23:32.460 Things

00:23:32.740 Get

00:23:32.960 Better

00:23:33.260 But

00:23:33.500 It

00:23:33.620 Doesn't

00:23:33.880 Feel

00:23:34.060 Like

00:23:34.200 They're

00:23:34.380 Going

00:23:34.520 To

00:23:34.620 Be

00:23:35.320 Better

00:23:35.580 Thank

00:23:36.400 You

00:23:36.540 Sir

00:23:36.740 Thank

00:23:38.260 You

00:23:38.500 Ico

00:23:38.840 Ico

00:24:00.140 Don't

00:24:01.980 Hate

00:24:02.260 Me

00:24:02.600 Because

00:24:03.420 I'm

00:24:03.820 Lazy

00:24:04.400 Animals

00:24:05.380 Take

00:24:06.040 Love

00:24:06.440 Street

00:24:06.760 Baby

00:24:07.300 Yes

00:24:08.040 I

00:24:08.320 Know

00:24:08.860 The

00:24:10.020 Wheels

00:24:10.400 Are

00:24:10.760 Turning

00:24:11.120 Slow

00:24:11.840 We

00:24:13.900 Will

00:24:14.200 Not

00:24:14.620 Begin

00:24:15.200 Another

00:24:16.280 City

00:24:16.920 Without

00:24:17.460 You

00:24:18.140 Rest

00:24:18.540 Assured

00:24:19.360 These

00:24:20.060 Aren't

00:24:20.400 Obligations

00:24:21.800 But

00:24:22.280 I

00:24:22.600 Want

00:24:23.020 To

00:24:23.400 Rub

00:24:26.020 My

00:24:26.340 Fingers

00:24:26.980 Through

00:24:27.400 Your

00:24:27.840 Magie

00:24:28.520 May

00:24:28.940 Your

00:24:29.260 Fingers

00:24:30.060 Surround

00:24:30.460 My

00:24:30.820 Belly

00:24:31.500 I

00:24:32.180 Have

00:24:32.420 Decided

00:24:33.040 The

00:24:33.340 Blind

00:24:33.680 Will

00:24:33.920 Be

00:24:34.120 Led

00:24:34.440 To

00:24:34.620 The

00:24:34.820 Fire

00:24:35.240 Tonight

00:24:35.960 In

00:24:41.220 The

00:24:41.500 Dark

00:24:41.980 We

00:24:42.220 Hear

00:24:42.700 The

00:24:43.040 Voices

00:24:43.760 Questioning

00:24:45.000 The

00:24:45.320 Finest

00:24:46.020 Choices

00:24:46.640 That

00:24:47.020 We

00:24:47.220 Have

00:24:47.580 Made

00:24:48.340 Through

00:24:49.520 Our

00:24:49.920 Estabate

00:24:51.400 And

00:24:53.120 Watch

00:24:53.500 Out

00:24:53.860 When

00:24:54.060 The

00:24:54.260 Train

00:24:54.640 Comes

00:24:54.960 Crashing

00:24:55.600 We

00:24:56.160 Then

00:24:56.440 Fire

00:24:56.900 The

00:24:57.220 Red

00:24:57.560 Black

00:24:57.880 Clashing

00:24:58.600 Are

00:24:59.220 Dead

00:25:00.280 It

00:25:01.180 Might

00:25:01.440 Not

00:25:01.760 Be

00:25:02.140 Enough

00:25:03.280 We

00:25:05.000 Will

00:25:05.280 Not

00:25:05.700 Begin

00:25:06.540 Another

00:25:07.340 Sin

00:25:08.040 Without

00:25:08.540 You

00:25:09.100 Rest

00:25:09.640 Assured

00:25:10.380 Each

00:25:11.140 On

00:25:11.440 Obligations

00:25:12.880 But

00:25:13.340 I

00:25:13.660 Want

00:25:14.080 To

00:25:14.500 Rub

00:25:17.100 My

00:25:17.400 Fingers

00:25:18.040 Through

00:25:18.500 Your

00:25:18.880 Page

00:25:19.400 You

00:25:19.660 May

00:25:20.060 Your

00:25:20.440 Fingers

00:25:21.140 Round

00:25:21.560 My

00:25:21.920 Bay

00:25:22.460 I

00:25:23.200 Am

00:25:23.420 Decided

00:25:24.000 The

00:25:24.320 Blind

00:25:24.700 We

00:25:24.940 Land

00:25:25.440 To

00:25:25.620 The

00:25:25.820 Fire

00:25:26.260 Tonight

00:25:27.060 This

00:25:39.340 Is

00:25:40.320 CFRA

00:25:41.120 Live

00:25:41.660 Sunday

00:25:42.400 Political

00:25:43.020 Panel

00:25:43.480 And

00:25:46.640 Welcome

00:25:46.940 to it on

00:25:47.560 the Sunday

00:25:47.880 edition of

00:25:48.540 CFRA Live

00:25:49.160 joining us for

00:25:49.680 our panel this

00:25:50.160 morning Warren

00:25:50.600 Kinsella he is a

00:25:51.460 strategist and

00:25:52.020 post media

00:25:52.440 columnist you can

00:25:53.140 hear his latest or

00:25:53.960 you can read his

00:25:54.560 latest in the

00:25:55.260 Toronto Sun this

00:25:56.040 morning Warren

00:25:56.560 good morning

00:25:57.100 good morning

00:25:58.240 Tasha

00:25:58.740 Carradine also

00:25:59.380 here political

00:26:00.020 columnist for the

00:26:00.740 National Post writer

00:26:01.480 for GZERO media

00:26:02.420 and an author

00:26:03.280 Tasha good

00:26:03.920 morning

00:26:04.200 good morning

00:26:05.480 so we're in the

00:26:06.240 midst of this

00:26:06.800 Canada post strike

00:26:07.680 that started on

00:26:08.500 Friday it's been

00:26:09.560 kind of the latest

00:26:10.220 in some labor

00:26:10.880 unrest we've seen

00:26:11.780 in federally

00:26:12.800 regulated industries

00:26:13.720 across the country

00:26:14.700 over the course of

00:26:15.340 the past couple of

00:26:16.000 years but I'm

00:26:16.480 wondering Warren

00:26:17.060 I know there has

00:26:18.420 been some impacts

00:26:19.040 here specifically

00:26:19.520 on businesses but

00:26:20.520 could there be as

00:26:21.400 as this goes on

00:26:22.640 could there be

00:26:23.020 some pressure

00:26:23.460 here to get

00:26:23.900 something done

00:26:24.420 on the liberal

00:26:24.960 government

00:26:25.300 I'm sure they're

00:26:26.760 experiencing pressure

00:26:27.780 already because it

00:26:29.240 will disproportionately

00:26:30.240 affect you know

00:26:32.320 small businesses

00:26:33.340 and and people who

00:26:35.000 rely upon income

00:26:36.880 supplements and

00:26:37.840 supports I know

00:26:39.420 they are delivering

00:26:40.280 you know OAS

00:26:41.240 checks and and

00:26:42.600 child benefit checks

00:26:43.840 so that's good

00:26:45.000 that's good on the

00:26:45.900 union that they're

00:26:46.860 they're doing that

00:26:47.900 but you know the

00:26:49.760 the dangerous

00:26:51.160 thing for McKinnon

00:26:52.320 here the minister

00:26:53.320 responsible is he

00:26:55.740 has ordered people

00:26:57.260 back to arbitration

00:26:58.780 ordered people back

00:26:59.800 to work in the

00:27:00.460 past and that's a

00:27:02.380 you know a tough

00:27:03.780 position because

00:27:04.720 their stated role

00:27:06.720 is well we let

00:27:07.840 bar you know

00:27:08.480 collective bargaining

00:27:09.220 work we're not

00:27:10.100 going to intervene

00:27:10.720 and they've

00:27:11.820 intervened a number

00:27:12.660 of times

00:27:13.260 so but you know

00:27:15.540 at the end of the

00:27:16.260 day the do Jane

00:27:17.740 Joe and Jane

00:27:18.400 front porch care

00:27:19.300 about that I

00:27:19.980 don't think so I

00:27:21.000 think they're gonna

00:27:21.640 you know by probably

00:27:23.620 the middle of this

00:27:24.460 coming week if this

00:27:25.560 thing isn't resolved

00:27:26.600 there's the demands

00:27:28.500 for intervention

00:27:29.600 are going to grow

00:27:30.240 grow a lot louder

00:27:31.340 and attached to

00:27:32.700 Warren's point it

00:27:33.320 would seem you know

00:27:34.020 the the average

00:27:34.900 public might turn

00:27:35.740 their score and if

00:27:36.420 they were upset to

00:27:37.200 Canada Post and not

00:27:38.280 the federal government

00:27:38.940 but do you think

00:27:39.520 there there will be

00:27:40.440 some political pressure

00:27:41.200 along with the

00:27:41.820 political situation

00:27:42.700 they find themselves

00:27:43.420 in to get something

00:27:44.460 done here as quickly

00:27:45.220 as possible

00:27:45.800 oh 100% look

00:27:47.980 the holidays are

00:27:49.120 coming Christmas is

00:27:50.140 coming and this is

00:27:51.620 the most busy time

00:27:52.860 for companies small

00:27:54.600 businesses in particular

00:27:55.500 shipping out stuff

00:27:56.580 to customers but it's

00:27:58.840 also the time people

00:27:59.620 need money in their

00:28:00.480 pocket to pay for

00:28:01.520 things for Christmas

00:28:02.640 and checks will be

00:28:04.960 delayed you know yes

00:28:06.820 some of the some of

00:28:07.800 the ones that Warren

00:28:08.900 mentioned are going

00:28:09.460 through but other

00:28:10.840 stuff that people are

00:28:11.700 expecting if they get

00:28:12.700 their pay in the mail

00:28:13.760 if they're a freelance

00:28:15.020 gig worker anything

00:28:16.080 that doesn't have

00:28:16.980 direct deposit and

00:28:17.940 yeah those still do

00:28:18.900 exist you won't be

00:28:21.120 getting your money and

00:28:22.880 businesses also sometimes

00:28:23.920 get checks they won't

00:28:24.800 be getting the money

00:28:25.720 for that they need to

00:28:27.020 pay their suppliers and

00:28:27.980 so it's a it's a chain

00:28:29.460 of bad things and when

00:28:31.600 you see that you're

00:28:32.300 going to get a lot of

00:28:33.180 people upset not just

00:28:34.260 small business small

00:28:35.060 business already asked

00:28:36.280 the CFIB has already

00:28:37.340 called on the government

00:28:38.280 to say like please

00:28:39.540 intervene do back to

00:28:40.900 work legislation the

00:28:42.300 challenge for the

00:28:42.840 liberals of course is

00:28:43.840 that they don't want to

00:28:44.460 be seen as anti-labor

00:28:45.560 that's why they hedged

00:28:46.640 on the previous strikes

00:28:47.640 they hedged on the CN

00:28:48.760 strike they you know

00:28:49.940 they decided not to

00:28:50.860 intervene for a while

00:28:51.780 because there was you

00:28:53.880 know the upside of it

00:28:54.860 is yeah you get things

00:28:55.700 moving again the

00:28:56.420 downside is the next

00:28:58.160 election the labor vote

00:28:59.780 is going to be even

00:29:00.780 more angry at you out

00:29:02.040 as they were before and

00:29:03.040 the conservatives are

00:29:04.260 making gains in that

00:29:05.400 area the NDP is is

00:29:07.260 held its own actually

00:29:08.580 in the Winnipeg

00:29:09.120 by-election that it

00:29:09.900 had so the liberals

00:29:11.100 are thinking hmm you

00:29:13.080 know rock hard place

00:29:14.060 where do we land I

00:29:15.440 think eventually they

00:29:16.120 will do something if

00:29:17.340 this drags on they'll

00:29:18.340 legislate them back to

00:29:19.180 arbitration binding

00:29:20.300 arbitration but I think

00:29:22.280 they're really reluctant

00:29:23.100 to do it and liberals

00:29:24.600 are running out of both

00:29:25.340 rocks and hard places I

00:29:26.560 think on a couple of

00:29:27.280 different issues but

00:29:28.200 another issue that came

00:29:29.800 up this week we heard

00:29:30.880 some audio earlier on

00:29:32.080 this morning Trump's

00:29:32.880 borders are here speaking

00:29:34.520 with Watertown TV

00:29:35.840 essentially calling

00:29:37.140 eastern Ontario in the

00:29:38.440 border here specifically

00:29:39.520 the Thousand Islands a

00:29:40.860 national security threat

00:29:42.300 so this is same the same

00:29:43.940 rhetoric we heard back

00:29:44.700 in 2016 about tightening

00:29:45.900 up the border being used

00:29:47.300 as leverage in this area

00:29:48.340 is this just the same

00:29:49.260 thing happening all over

00:29:50.160 again Warren or is there

00:29:51.120 very is there concerns at

00:29:53.240 the northern border for

00:29:54.020 the US there is a

00:29:56.060 concern and the you know

00:29:57.540 the the secretary the

00:30:00.160 cabinet secretary said

00:30:01.240 that is from New York

00:30:02.860 from that actually near

00:30:04.580 that part of New York

00:30:05.780 so he's much more

00:30:07.180 likely to be listened

00:30:08.440 to he's definitely

00:30:09.640 hardcore he's a former

00:30:12.020 head of ICE and so

00:30:14.400 he's got a lot more

00:30:15.200 credibility than the

00:30:16.320 Russian asset or the one

00:30:18.280 with a worm in their

00:30:19.200 brain or the one who

00:30:20.820 has been investigated for

00:30:22.120 sex with minors so he is

00:30:24.100 actually kind of credible

00:30:25.300 compared to the rest so

00:30:27.500 yeah this is as this

00:30:29.440 panel has talked about in

00:30:31.800 the past few days the

00:30:33.060 border is going to be an

00:30:34.340 issue with the United

00:30:35.820 States and and it's an

00:30:37.960 issue for us too because

00:30:39.140 if Trump goes ahead with

00:30:41.020 his crackdown on so-called

00:30:42.900 illegals I don't ever

00:30:44.460 think that human beings

00:30:45.460 are illegal it's going to

00:30:47.680 have implications for

00:30:48.780 people trying to get into

00:30:49.980 Canada so it's in our

00:30:52.280 interest both defensively

00:30:54.380 and offensively to deal

00:30:56.520 with it I just don't see a

00:30:58.700 whole lot of evidence that

00:30:59.880 the Trudeau guys know what

00:31:01.220 to do when or or how or

00:31:03.740 even even on when or how

00:31:05.440 Tasha but it also seems

00:31:06.560 like the Trudeau government

00:31:07.500 doesn't know how to

00:31:08.120 respond to this like I

00:31:09.180 said it's the same

00:31:10.080 rhetoric that we heard

00:31:10.720 back in 2016 but it does

00:31:12.500 feel like we don't know

00:31:13.240 what we're kind of doing

00:31:14.100 right now yeah I don't

00:31:15.860 even know about this border

00:31:16.720 crossing now everyone does

00:31:18.220 you know wait times going

00:31:21.260 up the problem with our

00:31:23.900 border is that it is mostly

00:31:26.160 undefended and it you know

00:31:27.800 there are crossings and

00:31:28.760 legal crossings is one

00:31:30.140 thing I mean that the the

00:31:32.660 safe third country

00:31:33.720 agreement that we have

00:31:34.620 with the U.S. now applies

00:31:35.660 to the entire border which

00:31:36.920 means you cannot cross by

00:31:39.220 land or water and claim

00:31:41.340 asylum you can't do that

00:31:43.060 you're not allowed to do

00:31:43.920 that before it was only at

00:31:45.040 certain points of entry

00:31:46.060 you weren't allowed to and

00:31:46.940 so people went to you know

00:31:48.120 the off-road places like

00:31:49.860 Roxham Road in Quebec but

00:31:52.340 now you're technically not

00:31:53.540 allowed to but there is a

00:31:54.840 loophole still in the law

00:31:55.940 because if you enter

00:31:57.620 Canada illegally other than

00:31:59.240 that a designated point of

00:32:00.340 entry and remain undiscovered

00:32:02.000 for 14 days you can claim

00:32:04.420 asylum so there's still a

00:32:06.520 little you know actually

00:32:07.640 pretty big loophole that's

00:32:09.340 sitting there that this

00:32:10.520 government has to talk to

00:32:11.620 the U.S. about and there are

00:32:13.040 groups that have actually

00:32:13.840 come out and said there's a

00:32:15.040 lawyers group in in the

00:32:17.120 state the cross-border

00:32:17.900 lawyers that have said flag

00:32:18.940 this and said you know

00:32:19.780 they've written to the

00:32:20.360 minister no response saying

00:32:22.000 what's going on like there

00:32:23.520 are ways and and also at

00:32:25.340 airports if you're coming

00:32:26.540 to Canada and you're not

00:32:28.220 you haven't been deported

00:32:30.160 from the U.S. we're just

00:32:31.120 coming in you can also claim

00:32:32.560 asylum at an airport so this

00:32:34.760 is what they mentioned about

00:32:35.500 flying in to this particular

00:32:37.000 location there are loopholes

00:32:39.140 still so but the thing is

00:32:40.400 it's an agreement right so

00:32:41.700 you've got to get the U.S.

00:32:42.760 on board to amend it you

00:32:43.980 can't unilaterally change it

00:32:45.480 so so he's got to start you

00:32:47.480 know making these moves now I

00:32:48.880 don't know why he doesn't

00:32:49.360 make them with the Biden

00:32:50.080 administration while it's

00:32:51.120 still there because the

00:32:52.540 Trump administration won't I

00:32:53.840 think really care if people

00:32:55.180 leave the country and go to

00:32:56.320 Canada they're like get out

00:32:57.400 right so so we've got to

00:32:59.460 deal with this before this

00:33:01.060 becomes a serious problem

00:33:02.160 and it's going to be very

00:33:03.640 soon I hear well and a good

00:33:05.840 point and we've been kind of

00:33:06.640 addressing this is the

00:33:07.600 situation right now but we

00:33:08.720 all know that could change

00:33:09.640 as well if we do see an

00:33:10.860 influx of people coming

00:33:11.840 north of the border another

00:33:13.720 irritant with the U.S. we've

00:33:15.080 talked about this specifically

00:33:16.340 has been a defense spending

00:33:17.960 getting up to that two percent

00:33:19.140 of GDP when it comes to I

00:33:21.760 guess this specific issue we

00:33:23.460 heard from another former

00:33:24.260 ambassador this week Derek

00:33:25.320 Bernie I believe it was

00:33:26.200 speaking out saying that

00:33:27.740 Canada has become irrelevant

00:33:28.920 in this space it's something

00:33:30.500 we've kind of batted around

00:33:31.360 here before Warren but are we

00:33:32.580 getting further and further

00:33:33.440 behind in terms of I don't

00:33:34.900 know our our ability to keep

00:33:36.660 up with the rest of the world

00:33:37.560 in terms of the military

00:33:38.500 yeah we we have talked about

00:33:41.280 it and yes we are far behind

00:33:43.960 in an increasingly more

00:33:46.640 dangerous world and you know

00:33:49.180 this is one of those rare

00:33:50.220 instances where Donald Trump

00:33:52.740 is actually right about

00:33:53.960 something saying that Canada

00:33:55.460 needs to meet its commitment

00:33:57.100 because no less than Barack

00:33:59.440 Obama came to Canada spoke in

00:34:02.460 the House of Commons before

00:34:04.380 Parliament and said the same

00:34:05.960 thing the Americans are of one

00:34:07.700 mind on this subject and you

00:34:11.560 know and it's not just Trudeau

00:34:12.920 who hasn't met the two percent

00:34:14.940 commitment Stephen Harper did

00:34:16.800 neither so you know I think we

00:34:20.040 have to accept whatever

00:34:21.420 government we've got in place

00:34:23.140 up here if the Americans are

00:34:25.280 serious about this they're not

00:34:26.800 going to let it go and that's

00:34:28.600 particularly the case when we

00:34:30.360 have you know the the bad guys

00:34:32.800 on the march you know North Korea

00:34:34.460 flying military drones all over

00:34:37.880 South Korea this weekend like bad

00:34:40.620 things are happening more and

00:34:42.300 more and it's in our interest it's

00:34:44.280 in our self-interest to listen to

00:34:46.740 whether it's Trump or Obama and do

00:34:49.180 this and you know I I don't think

00:34:52.180 the Trudeau guys particularly care

00:34:54.140 for their base

00:34:55.020 Polyev has said he's going to do it

00:34:58.340 I guess we got to hold his feet to

00:34:59.820 the fire if he becomes prime

00:35:01.260 minister and make sure that he

00:35:02.760 does it

00:35:03.360 and the plan right now for according

00:35:05.340 to liberals 2032 is what they're

00:35:07.100 putting the target at to get to

00:35:08.320 that two percent but but I'm

00:35:10.280 wondering as well Tasha just that

00:35:11.960 idea of getting to the two percent

00:35:13.420 regardless of who's in power right

00:35:15.460 now in the US you know we're

00:35:17.220 talking about the the Arctic

00:35:19.360 northern defense things like that

00:35:20.980 is it becoming very clear that

00:35:22.880 Canada needs to invest in its

00:35:24.060 military again irregardless of

00:35:25.500 what's going on with Trump do we

00:35:27.240 need to be investing and focusing

00:35:28.480 on our military

00:35:29.100 a hundred percent we we should have

00:35:31.660 been doing this you know a decade

00:35:33.760 ago two decades ago we should have

00:35:35.400 done more we didn't we haven't

00:35:37.800 because we are next to the

00:35:39.780 elephant you know maybe the mouse

00:35:41.420 sleeping next to the elephant

00:35:42.480 you know paraphrase Pierre Elliott

00:35:43.760 Trudeau and it gets uncomfortable

00:35:44.900 sometimes but the point is the

00:35:47.080 elephant protects you so there's a

00:35:49.000 sense I mean we have this moral

00:35:50.100 superiority in Canada you know we're

00:35:51.720 peacekeepers we're we're you know

00:35:53.780 we're not a militaristic jingoistic

00:35:55.640 nation like the US right well yeah

00:35:58.000 because we have the luxury of being

00:35:59.180 next to the US so we know they're

00:36:01.260 never going to let anything happen

00:36:02.620 to us we are their border

00:36:04.280 essentially so we've we've been you

00:36:08.020 know we've been slow on this we

00:36:10.040 have not bought the necessary

00:36:11.580 equipment replaced equipment for

00:36:12.940 our troops we are short about

00:36:14.800 16,000 troops at this point which

00:36:16.900 is terrible the processing time for

00:36:18.680 someone who applies to the military

00:36:20.380 is very long curiously you know

00:36:23.100 there are a lot of people actually

00:36:24.060 do apply but it takes forever to get

00:36:25.820 them in the system so this is

00:36:28.220 ridiculous we need to prioritize this

00:36:30.120 the problem is you prioritize this

00:36:32.560 what do you take it away from because

00:36:34.240 we don't have an elastic supply of

00:36:35.940 money in this country you know we are

00:36:37.680 actually in a very bad financial

00:36:39.120 situation so the government will have

00:36:40.880 to make cuts it will have to say

00:36:42.100 okay well you know we're not gonna

00:36:43.440 we're not gonna spend on dental care

00:36:44.880 we're gonna do this instead how will

00:36:46.860 that go over right the liberals have

00:36:48.720 no appetite for that so they've put

00:36:50.300 this deadline of 2032 when they know

00:36:52.180 they won't be in power anymore and

00:36:53.380 they don't care and I don't think

00:36:55.100 that will be acceptable to the

00:36:56.800 Americans I think they will demand

00:36:58.240 more and what we could do as a

00:37:00.480 negotiating point because we know

00:37:01.920 that there are tariffs coming down the

00:37:03.640 pipe all sorts of stuff is say hey

00:37:05.640 we're gonna spend more and we're

00:37:07.840 gonna give some contracts to some

00:37:09.080 American and military contractors

00:37:10.900 keep the tariffs off please there are

00:37:13.540 negotiating points we could use

00:37:15.060 actually and leverage military

00:37:16.320 spending for with the US to maybe

00:37:18.580 stave off real damage to our other

00:37:20.640 industries and I guess kind of

00:37:23.100 flipping a flipping our attention

00:37:24.840 just for a second back here on this

00:37:26.920 side of the border because I do want

00:37:27.860 to talk about cabinet picks on the

00:37:30.000 US side but just talk about our own

00:37:31.860 elections we've always expecting one

00:37:33.340 over the course of the next year but

00:37:34.600 chief electoral officer writing this

00:37:36.460 week that they want legislation

00:37:37.660 banning deep fakes online particularly

00:37:40.680 and particularly when it comes to the

00:37:44.280 likeness of candidates and the like so

00:37:46.280 I'm just wondering from your

00:37:47.720 perspective Warren this is one issue

00:37:49.160 that kind of falls into this

00:37:50.120 misinformation category if you're

00:37:51.900 watching what's been going on in the

00:37:53.060 UK they're obviously having a pretty

00:37:55.000 tough go with free speech and online

00:37:56.460 speech and and the light and the and

00:37:58.640 the the like just kind of wondering do

00:38:00.640 we need to get moving on issues like

00:38:02.480 this deep fakes misinformation on

00:38:04.460 social media because it is so

00:38:06.360 important to kind of democracy and

00:38:07.820 where we're kind of headed well we're

00:38:09.920 kind of the horses left the barn yeah

00:38:12.540 right there yeah just this weekend

00:38:16.020 again information evidence has come out

00:38:20.200 that Elon Musk altered the algorithm on

00:38:24.740 X during the presidential election to

00:38:28.900 suppress pro Kamala Harris posts and

00:38:33.580 enhance pro Donald Trump ones so you

00:38:37.260 know as long as we have a situation

00:38:39.760 where we've got these unaccountable

00:38:41.960 unelected billionaires doing whatever to

00:38:45.820 hell they want we're gonna have a bad

00:38:49.920 bad situation for truth and democracy and

00:38:53.420 and news and you know because Zuckerberg

00:38:56.560 and Musk and the others have shown that

00:38:59.300 they have absolutely zero interest in a

00:39:02.460 well-informed public it is not subject to

00:39:05.260 disinformation and misinformation so and

00:39:09.160 you know the deep fake stuff like you

00:39:11.200 know people probably hear about it a lot I

00:39:12.720 encourage people to just Google yeah using

00:39:16.360 another platform Jake Jake Tapper on CNN

00:39:21.260 Jake Tapper and CNN Tapper did something

00:39:23.820 that was really I thought it would have

00:39:25.960 gotten more attention they did on CNN a

00:39:30.040 deep fake of Jake Tapper which then

00:39:33.280 transitions to the real Jake Tapper and

00:39:36.620 I'm telling you guys you cannot tell the

00:39:39.260 difference between the fake and the real

00:39:41.900 thing like it was shocking how advanced the

00:39:45.720 technology has become so what that means

00:39:48.720 you know because I'm a war room guy is I

00:39:52.260 guarantee people listening you have seen

00:39:54.760 something in recent months that you thought

00:39:57.720 was real and is not it's been manipulated

00:40:00.960 you know in some bot farm somewhere to try

00:40:04.720 and change the way you think or suppress your

00:40:07.000 vote or what have you you've already

00:40:08.860 experienced deep fakes and the problem is

00:40:11.900 the Biden administration tried to in the

00:40:14.680 past year have an agreement in place where

00:40:18.440 you know there is some kind of acknowledgement

00:40:21.380 that what you're seeing is a deep fake a

00:40:23.640 watermark or what have you and I don't think

00:40:26.500 that has gone anywhere so like if we if we do

00:40:29.820 this we need to do it on a global scale because

00:40:32.340 this is a global problem whether it's AI or

00:40:35.720 deep fakes or so on the technology is galloping

00:40:39.300 ahead of where we are as a society and it's

00:40:43.340 going to be very harmful particularly when you

00:40:45.400 have a liar like Donald Trump as president

00:40:48.140 of the United States when I saw just your

00:40:50.380 point I saw you know a Harris concession

00:40:52.360 speech that had been redone from last week

00:40:54.040 and like you say you could not tell the

00:40:55.700 difference unless you knew ahead of time that

00:40:57.280 it was a deep fake just on that point but

00:41:00.120 Tasha you know Warren saying that the house

00:41:01.880 is kind of already under the bar and it's

00:41:03.040 kind of tough to deny that in many ways is

00:41:04.960 this something we we need to at least try

00:41:06.760 to get a handle on so we can have the you

00:41:08.640 know the best informed public that we

00:41:10.000 possibly can here well here's the thing

00:41:13.140 I agree with a lot of Warren said I mean

00:41:15.400 I think that it is right now that we're

00:41:18.500 awash in disinformation and video

00:41:21.260 disinformation is particularly difficult

00:41:24.460 because before we had a we have we've had

00:41:27.640 disinformation forever and we've had you

00:41:29.420 know newspaper barons who suppress the news

00:41:31.840 in their paper and reported only on the

00:41:33.900 other candidates or you know slanted the

00:41:36.120 coverage like this is in the UK in

00:41:38.360 particular you mentioned the UK earlier

00:41:39.720 you you know you've had this is nothing

00:41:42.260 new the Zuckerbergs and Musks it's their

00:41:44.220 platform right it's their platform they

00:41:46.280 it's not like this is a public interest

00:41:47.700 situation it's like owning a newspaper I

00:41:49.660 mean yes you're supposed to report the

00:41:51.640 truth and you may report the truth but

00:41:54.140 only certain parts of it are enhanced or

00:41:56.020 the headlines are certain way fine the

00:41:58.700 problem with deep fakes is that you're

00:42:00.960 reporting lies right you're spreading

00:42:02.680 absolute falsehoods and that's the

00:42:05.820 difficulty is who's going to be the body

00:42:07.820 that identifies these falsehoods that

00:42:09.540 calls them out that has any sanctions

00:42:11.540 there's there's no one who could do

00:42:13.820 that you know you can report to your

00:42:15.460 local broadcast standards council if it

00:42:17.680 covered the internet if it covered

00:42:19.940 social media I don't think it necessarily

00:42:22.320 does in most most countries the I mean

00:42:24.980 Europe has some very tough laws very

00:42:26.840 tough laws and fines that they've levied

00:42:29.680 against social media providers so

00:42:31.560 they're kind of ahead on this but it's

00:42:33.380 it is the horse is out it's like it's

00:42:35.220 gone down the end of the raceway you

00:42:36.920 can't even see the horse like you see

00:42:38.400 the horse's tail in the distance there

00:42:39.820 it's it's terrible so I think what it

00:42:43.220 comes down to a lot of it also is

00:42:45.120 education and teaching young people in

00:42:48.020 particular don't believe what you see

00:42:49.920 which is a weird thing right because

00:42:51.660 you're actually encouraging people to

00:42:53.300 question everything in their reality

00:42:55.280 but I know personally when I see a

00:42:57.440 video on especially if it's on a

00:42:58.860 platform like X it says you must watch

00:43:00.800 this or look at I think to myself is

00:43:03.380 that real like that's my first

00:43:04.660 reaction now is that true like and and

00:43:07.360 nine times out of ten my skepticism is

00:43:10.560 confirmed because somebody who's trying

00:43:12.160 to push you to see something so

00:43:13.660 violently and virulently they have an

00:43:15.860 agenda and it may be either cut a

00:43:18.200 certain way or it's totally fake like

00:43:19.920 you know I just like skip so people need

00:43:22.860 to develop a reflex too and that will

00:43:25.060 only come with education and people

00:43:27.140 understanding that a lot of what they

00:43:28.600 see may not actually be true it's very

00:43:31.120 good point and that balance between you

00:43:32.900 know healthy skepticism and just

00:43:34.480 completely kind of retreating into

00:43:35.820 conspiracy theories that we see online

00:43:37.720 is a tough balance as well just last

00:43:39.940 one this week well we've got a minute

00:43:41.360 or two here Warren you had kind of

00:43:43.220 mentioned this a couple of cabinet

00:43:44.680 picks this week specifically here but

00:43:46.480 are you surprised I guess by Trump's

00:43:48.620 cabinet picks being so I guess not so

00:43:51.300 they're vehemently loyalist of course but

00:43:53.480 these cabinet picks have had some major

00:43:56.020 issues they're gonna have some tough

00:43:57.180 time getting confirmed well I don't know

00:44:00.000 that you know he's got a mandate to do

00:44:03.000 this you know lots of people voted for

00:44:06.260 him and you know so if he moves ahead as

00:44:10.620 he's doing putting insane and and criminal

00:44:15.260 people in his in his cabinet I you know I

00:44:19.160 think he might just get away with it you

00:44:21.080 know Kennedy who's an anti-vaxxer and

00:44:23.700 says he has a worm in his brain and

00:44:25.980 Tulsi Gabbard who has been a supporter

00:44:28.680 of Syria's genocidal regime and is

00:44:33.420 incredibly accused of being a Russian

00:44:35.380 asset you got Matt Gaetz has been

00:44:37.640 investigated for you know legal drug use

00:44:40.360 sex with a minor peak headset for a

00:44:43.780 military command rule says he hasn't

00:44:46.120 washed his hands in a decade because he

00:44:48.720 doesn't believe germs exist and then you

00:44:50.940 got Musk you know after lots of a record

00:44:53.860 number of Jews voted for Trump Musk

00:44:57.100 secretly meeting with representatives of

00:45:00.100 the Ayatollahs in New York at Iran's

00:45:04.120 headquarters in New York and you know he

00:45:06.820 hasn't even received a security clearance

00:45:08.580 yet like it's madness what is taking place

00:45:11.280 and you know I know a lot of people in

00:45:13.920 Canada say oh well it's them it's not

00:45:15.480 gonna affect us it is gonna affect us

00:45:17.460 right it's gonna it is gonna affect us

00:45:19.900 these are really powerful positions

00:45:22.060 arguably more powerful than the Canadian

00:45:24.700 Prime Minister so buckle your seatbelts

00:45:27.020 folks it's gonna get bouncy and

00:45:28.860 obviously they'll be at the top of some

00:45:30.240 big issues for the U.S. as well Tasha

00:45:32.480 just your thoughts on some of the picks

00:45:33.720 that we're seeing this week

00:45:34.600 that sums it up that sums it up well

00:45:39.480 gallery literally you know all the stuff

00:45:42.900 that Warren just enumerated you know it's

00:45:46.560 shocking and you know people people say

00:45:49.920 well you know they're not elected

00:45:51.380 positions so they screw up like you can

00:45:53.100 you can get rid of somebody right but the

00:45:55.260 point is Trump's threshold for getting

00:45:59.400 rid of people I think it's basically only

00:46:02.280 if they're disloyal to him he doesn't

00:46:04.080 really care he doesn't care about their

00:46:05.960 their personal proclivities not at all and

00:46:09.280 I think also on the piece the dangerous

00:46:11.120 piece to me is is Tulsi Gabbard is the

00:46:13.460 national security issue is the sense that

00:46:16.600 you know who's really who's really going

00:46:19.220 to call the shots whose interests are

00:46:20.620 being protected here and I think Canada is

00:46:23.640 a rate to worry because for the comments

00:46:26.640 we made earlier too with our border we are

00:46:28.940 going to be seen as as you know less

00:46:31.780 friend than foe and that's one of the

00:46:34.600 first times I mean since the war of 1812

00:46:36.740 we were literally at blows with the US we

00:46:38.980 have traditionally been seen as a friend

00:46:40.740 but now you know we look at the friend

00:46:43.100 and the friend's a little unhinged what

00:46:44.460 do you do with this and the friend is

00:46:46.420 looking at us and going I don't know

00:46:47.700 about you it's it's really disturbing so I

00:46:51.520 think we're entering we're entering a

00:46:53.320 different age around the world the age of

00:46:56.740 oligarchs autocracy the US is no exception

00:46:59.720 and this style of government is this loyalty

00:47:03.180 litmus test which is what the one thing all

00:47:05.160 these people have in common is they are

00:47:06.620 loyal to Trump and that's what he said

00:47:08.560 right away that was going to be his sort

00:47:10.420 of his barometer for how he was going to

00:47:12.900 govern it's going to be throughout the

00:47:14.340 government though too it's not going to

00:47:15.480 stop at these folks this is this is the

00:47:17.360 end this is the tip of the iceberg or

00:47:19.920 whatever they're going to be purges of

00:47:22.220 people within organizations within the FBI

00:47:24.520 within the CIA within everywhere people

00:47:26.860 who are not loyal will be out and they're

00:47:29.220 actually checking in the government ways

00:47:32.140 to fire people without severance that's

00:47:35.120 right because if you basically restructure

00:47:37.220 if you restructure a department restructure

00:47:39.400 someone's job out of existence you may not

00:47:41.160 have to pay them severance I have this

00:47:43.160 information from someone who's working in

00:47:45.520 the US who's aware of this and I will not

00:47:47.660 say who they are but they just I was shocked

00:47:49.740 and they're like yep that's what they're

00:47:50.940 doing so gosh I'm not surprised but it is

00:47:56.500 very very disturbing yeah and we'll see over

00:47:58.500 the course we still got two months just to

00:48:00.000 get to the to inauguration day we'll see

00:48:01.820 what happens between now and then but

00:48:03.460 Tasha and Warren thanks so much for your

00:48:04.860 time this morning I very much appreciate

00:48:06.300 it thanks guys Warren can tell a

00:48:08.680 strategist and post media columnist you

00:48:10.180 can read his latest in the Toronto Sun

00:48:11.840 this morning Tasha Carrad and political

00:48:13.340 columnist for the National Post

00:48:14.520 there were times when we raised our fist to

00:48:29.340 the world waiting to crush our position

00:48:31.560 and there were times when we landed like

00:48:34.720 face in disguise but now remembering those

00:48:37.380 of two we never had a chance but we made our

00:48:41.460 plans to let it go apart we watched it all

00:48:46.320 crash around our feet and that it broke my

00:48:48.960 heart we took it day by day you never thought for

00:48:53.340 once those days would go to end I got what I wanted but

00:48:58.860 I think about it but I miss my own crime

00:49:03.180 accident or accusations I got my fucking reasons

00:49:08.460 and even hearts are broken all alone when they lost what they believe in

00:49:14.680 the world when it seems to come apart

00:49:21.680 then there's frustration with my consolation

00:49:27.480 I've fallen out of my face while I was in this race

00:49:35.800 doesn't stop me from trying yet I did my best at least but I can't

00:49:40.660 get no peace when I'm all in the shortest draw

00:49:43.660 we never had a chance but we made our plans so they were

00:49:48.160 brought apart we watched it all crash around our feet and that it broke my heart

00:49:55.660 took it day by day and never thought for once those days were gonna end

00:50:01.660 well I got what I wanted when I think about it but I miss my friend

00:50:08.660 accidents or accusations I got my fucking reasons and even hearts are broken all alone when they lost what they believe in

00:50:20.660 well

00:50:25.660 when the seams start to come apart

00:50:30.660 in this frustration we found our salvation

00:50:33.660 in this frustration we found our salvation

00:50:36.660 in this frustration we found our salvation

00:50:39.660 the 열심히 start

00:51:03.660 separate everyday little more from the biggest start

00:51:08.660 But I won't forget my part

00:51:15.660 In the end, what you want's most different than what you're just

00:51:19.660 Yes, bigger than me and you

00:51:23.660 It's bigger than me and

00:51:25.660 Than me and you

00:51:38.660 We're back with our great friend and our muse, Brian Lilly

00:51:45.900 And Brian, lots of religion this week

00:51:49.400 Or people professing to be concerned about religion

00:51:54.340 So Toronto City Council, which I understand the rest of the country

00:51:58.240 Doesn't always pay close attention to, understandably

00:52:02.180 Actually had a debate about Christianity this week

00:52:06.700 We've written about it in the Toronto Sun

00:52:09.480 Could you fill people in on what took place

00:52:11.900 And how nutty it became

00:52:14.180 Well, there was a motion to follow Mississauga's lead

00:52:18.920 And declare that December is Christian Heritage Month

00:52:21.900 And if you follow politics at all

00:52:25.620 You know that at the city, at the provincial, at the municipal level

00:52:29.780 Or at the federal level

00:52:30.980 You get all kinds of dates and months for various ethnic groups

00:52:34.020 Religious groups

00:52:34.800 And so the city of Toronto already recognizes

00:52:37.860 All kinds of other religions with

00:52:39.540 Their own Heritage Month or day or time

00:52:42.160 And there was a motion to

00:52:44.940 Do that for Christianity

00:52:46.680 Councilor Gord Perks

00:52:49.260 Can I call him the biggest asshole

00:52:52.880 On council on your podcast

00:52:55.260 Or would that get muted?

00:52:56.780 No, I think

00:52:57.540 You know, you're an accurate reporter

00:52:59.560 I think you have to be accurate

00:53:01.140 So yeah, no, I think

00:53:02.240 He is the biggest asshole on council

00:53:05.480 And he went on a tirade about how awful and evil Christianity was

00:53:11.740 And he admitted that there are other religions recognized in the exact same way

00:53:19.100 But he said it is completely different than Hindu Heritage Month

00:53:23.340 And then was comparing Christianity to white supremacists and Nazis

00:53:29.300 And saying here's all the evil things that Christians have done over the years in Canada

00:53:35.720 You know, if you want to do that

00:53:38.300 And just go through history

00:53:39.780 You can find awful things that have been done by adherence to every religion

00:53:45.880 Or by in the name of religion

00:53:49.200 But Perks was just like, no, Christianity is evil

00:53:53.340 It is, you know, he's one of those far lefty guys

00:53:59.920 Who hates what Canada is

00:54:01.860 You know, I understand everyone wants to make your country better

00:54:06.020 But most people, regardless of party

00:54:09.500 Don't hate the very existence of their country

00:54:13.120 Perks is one of those guys

00:54:15.400 And that clearly came out in his comments

00:54:20.080 Counselor Lily Chen

00:54:22.180 Yeah, talk about that

00:54:23.400 So how did it turn out?

00:54:24.700 Did the motion get defeated?

00:54:27.000 It did get passed, I believe

00:54:29.760 But Counselor Lily Chen, who represents North York

00:54:34.280 She ended up in tears

00:54:36.240 Standing up and saying like, look, Christianity saved my life

00:54:39.320 I was going through a really hard time with my mother

00:54:41.620 You know, her dealing with ALS

00:54:45.220 And some people showed me, you know

00:54:48.720 Joy and grace and compassion

00:54:52.060 And she became a Christian

00:54:54.920 So this is all happening, by the way

00:54:57.100 Late Thursday night

00:54:58.740 I completely missed it

00:55:01.720 When it did happen

00:55:03.980 So, you know, thankfully some good reporting on this

00:55:08.200 And we can see what it is

00:55:10.720 I'll be digging through the video

00:55:12.780 To just expose Gord Perks for what he is

00:55:16.380 He's an insufferable man

00:55:20.000 Absolutely insufferable

00:55:23.420 And he's not alone, regrettably

00:55:26.220 The United Church of Canada

00:55:27.820 Which, to me, has kind of

00:55:30.820 I'm going to get in trouble for this

00:55:32.220 Seized to be a church

00:55:34.580 And is more a left-wing lobby group

00:55:37.040 Actually issued a letter

00:55:39.040 Defending Francesca Albanese

00:55:43.120 The anti-Semitic UN representative for Palestine

00:55:48.360 Defending her right to free speech

00:55:52.120 And, you know, like it really

00:55:55.040 In this month of all months

00:55:56.480 This is the holiest month, you know

00:55:58.180 For all of the major religions

00:56:00.360 Or one of the holiest months

00:56:01.880 Like, it's just shameful

00:56:03.900 That this stuff is happening

00:56:05.800 Where certain religions are being regarded

00:56:09.360 As more equal than others

00:56:10.960 Like, how did that

00:56:12.680 You know, and you and I

00:56:13.900 Full disclosure

00:56:14.580 We're both church-going Catholics

00:56:16.260 And we believe in Christ

00:56:18.360 And we believe in God

00:56:19.420 And we believe in the church

00:56:21.020 We know they're not perfect

00:56:22.700 The church

00:56:23.280 But, like, how is this happen

00:56:25.620 Where it can be open season

00:56:27.760 In Canada on Jews

00:56:29.200 Or, you know, say terrible things

00:56:31.740 About Christianity

00:56:32.700 And there are people out there

00:56:34.480 Saying terrible things about Islam

00:56:36.000 I had somebody I was following

00:56:38.020 On social media last night

00:56:39.900 And said, called Islam

00:56:41.940 A disgusting religion

00:56:43.240 And I said, well, I think

00:56:44.480 You're talking about Islamism

00:56:46.180 You know, the Islamists

00:56:47.700 Which is a political movement

00:56:48.640 Not the religion

00:56:49.420 Like, there's just

00:56:50.840 It seems like there's no restraint

00:56:53.860 On people anymore

00:56:55.020 Like, how did that come about?

00:56:59.460 Well, as far as your comments

00:57:01.040 About the United Church

00:57:03.000 You can go back to 1998

00:57:06.620 And the

00:57:08.780 The

00:57:11.220 Moderator of the United Church

00:57:14.120 A guy named Bill Phipps

00:57:15.940 Was doing

00:57:16.860 An editorial board meeting

00:57:19.820 With the

00:57:20.360 Ottawa Citizen

00:57:21.920 And my friend John Robson

00:57:24.380 Was on the editorial board

00:57:25.760 At the time

00:57:26.260 And somebody said to him

00:57:28.580 Ask him if

00:57:29.640 The moderator believes

00:57:32.060 That Jesus is the Son of God

00:57:33.660 Which is a pretty central

00:57:35.440 Tenet of any Christianity

00:57:37.820 Any Christian denomination

00:57:39.520 And

00:57:41.000 John thought

00:57:42.720 Well, that's an odd question

00:57:43.840 To ask

00:57:44.320 The head of a church

00:57:46.320 Ask him

00:57:47.720 And so John asked him

00:57:49.020 And the guy said

00:57:49.920 I don't really know

00:57:50.760 We're still trying to figure that out

00:57:52.460 Are you kidding me?

00:57:54.340 No, that was 1998

00:57:56.380 In

00:57:57.160 In Toronto

00:57:58.500 There's

00:57:59.060 An atheist

00:58:01.780 United Church minister

00:58:03.220 An avowed atheist

00:58:05.060 Who is a minister

00:58:05.820 Wow

00:58:07.760 There are a lot of

00:58:10.060 Great people

00:58:12.060 Who are in

00:58:13.120 Or who have come from

00:58:14.240 The United Church

00:58:15.660 But a strange thing

00:58:16.660 Happened

00:58:17.140 Along the way

00:58:18.220 With this organization

00:58:19.320 And I know

00:58:19.840 I was married to a long time

00:58:21.920 For a woman

00:58:22.680 Who was raised

00:58:23.120 In the United Church

00:58:24.020 And I've been to a lot

00:58:26.460 Of United Churches

00:58:27.300 And some of them

00:58:28.460 You would see a lot of things

00:58:30.020 That look familiar

00:58:31.300 And feel familiar

00:58:32.040 And then other times

00:58:33.340 I've been in

00:58:34.100 Congregations

00:58:35.200 Where you're like

00:58:35.560 This is

00:58:36.340 The NDP

00:58:37.700 Sometimes a prayer

00:58:38.740 Sometimes just

00:58:39.460 The NDP

00:58:40.220 I remember going to

00:58:41.720 One service

00:58:42.260 Shortly after Jack Layton

00:58:43.440 Was

00:58:43.860 Elected leader

00:58:45.880 Of the NDP

00:58:46.500 And

00:58:48.360 That was the only

00:58:49.440 Prayer of intention

00:58:50.160 Was for the NDP

00:58:51.120 For Layton

00:58:52.080 That he had wisdom

00:58:53.320 And that he wins soon

00:58:54.440 And become prime minister

00:58:56.520 Wow

00:58:57.400 So

00:58:57.960 It is an incredibly

00:59:00.260 Political organization

00:59:01.620 More than others

00:59:02.420 And

00:59:03.640 They have long

00:59:05.420 Aligned themselves

00:59:06.200 With the NDP

00:59:06.960 Even though

00:59:07.560 Many of

00:59:08.560 Their adherents

00:59:09.680 Are now former adherents

00:59:10.760 Because they've been

00:59:11.400 Losing people

00:59:12.280 Like crazy

00:59:13.200 Have been

00:59:15.700 Far less political

00:59:16.760 Or

00:59:17.180 Differently aligned

00:59:18.840 And so

00:59:20.020 This letter

00:59:20.660 Supporting the

00:59:21.820 The UN special

00:59:22.720 Repertoire

00:59:23.320 Francesca Albanese

00:59:24.300 That does not

00:59:25.180 Shock me

00:59:25.740 In the least

00:59:26.540 It's a

00:59:28.500 United Church

00:59:30.080 Is just a

00:59:30.580 Political movement

00:59:31.200 With a clerical

00:59:31.900 Collar on

00:59:32.560 And

00:59:34.080 All the trappings

00:59:36.560 Of any

00:59:37.220 Far left movement

00:59:38.240 At this point

00:59:38.780 That's it

00:59:39.240 I was surprised

00:59:41.380 Let's continue

00:59:42.420 To talk about

00:59:43.020 Religion

00:59:43.400 Or something

00:59:43.980 Like religion

00:59:44.980 Justin Truro

00:59:46.480 Who was obviously

00:59:47.280 A desperate guy

00:59:48.340 Looking for some

00:59:49.200 Way to get

00:59:49.760 Traction

00:59:50.400 Announced

00:59:51.600 This week

00:59:52.400 That the

00:59:52.820 Federal government

00:59:53.600 Was going to

00:59:54.780 Help bail out

00:59:55.660 The Santa Claus

00:59:56.400 Parade

00:59:56.800 And I used to

00:59:57.380 Take my kids

00:59:58.000 To the Toronto

00:59:58.520 Santa Claus

00:59:59.320 Parade

00:59:59.700 Every single

01:00:01.040 Year

01:00:01.360 It happens

01:00:02.200 You know

01:00:02.720 Right around

01:00:03.180 This time

01:00:03.740 In November

01:00:04.360 It's gotten

01:00:05.420 Into financial

01:00:06.140 Difficulty

01:00:06.720 Like a lot

01:00:07.480 Of these

01:00:07.860 Festivals

01:00:08.520 And public

01:00:09.080 Events

01:00:09.440 And parades

01:00:10.140 And Trudeau

01:00:11.540 You know

01:00:12.480 Kind of

01:00:13.200 Threw off

01:00:13.960 The

01:00:14.360 His previous

01:00:15.560 Mantle

01:00:16.160 Of being

01:00:16.680 You know

01:00:17.340 Not terribly

01:00:19.320 Christian

01:00:19.820 And indicating

01:00:21.460 That he's

01:00:21.960 Prepared to

01:00:22.580 Bail them

01:00:23.040 Out

01:00:23.240 I was surprised

01:00:24.200 But is it

01:00:24.760 A good thing

01:00:25.360 Or a bad

01:00:25.900 Thing

01:00:26.120 Or is it

01:00:26.460 Just comical

01:00:27.120 Look I

01:00:30.120 Think the

01:00:30.820 Santa Claus

01:00:31.260 Parade

01:00:31.580 Is a good

01:00:32.020 Thing

01:00:32.340 I took

01:00:34.780 My kids

01:00:35.200 To the

01:00:35.480 One in

01:00:35.780 Ottawa

01:00:36.060 When they

01:00:36.760 Were young

01:00:37.160 I've seen

01:00:39.440 The one

01:00:39.760 In Toronto

01:00:40.120 It's

01:00:40.460 Quite large

01:00:41.320 It's good

01:00:41.780 But

01:00:42.580 You know

01:00:44.040 And I

01:00:44.640 Don't have

01:00:45.140 A philosophical

01:00:46.500 Problem with

01:00:47.280 Governments

01:00:48.160 Doing this

01:00:48.600 The corporate

01:00:49.680 Sport has

01:00:50.500 Just drifted

01:00:51.460 Off

01:00:51.980 Of course

01:00:52.420 I believe

01:00:53.140 The Toronto

01:00:53.560 Santa Claus

01:00:54.360 Parade

01:00:54.620 Was originally

01:00:55.200 Started

01:00:56.160 And paid

01:00:56.860 For

01:00:57.200 By Eatons

01:00:59.200 And they're

01:01:00.200 Long gone

01:01:00.740 And no

01:01:03.000 Other

01:01:03.700 Major retailer

01:01:05.560 Is doing

01:01:06.000 That

01:01:06.200 Santa Claus

01:01:07.260 Parade

01:01:07.520 Brought to

01:01:07.960 You by

01:01:08.180 Amazon

01:01:08.600 I don't

01:01:09.640 Know

01:01:09.880 Funny

01:01:11.220 Enough

01:01:11.480 I believe

01:01:12.200 The parade

01:01:13.060 Route

01:01:13.260 Will take

01:01:13.640 It right

01:01:13.920 By Indigo

01:01:14.640 At Bay

01:01:15.000 And Bloor

01:01:15.440 Which is

01:01:16.300 The site

01:01:16.820 Of a

01:01:17.540 Great

01:01:17.920 Many

01:01:18.200 Antis

01:01:18.960 Semitic

01:01:19.820 Anti-Zionist

01:01:20.680 Anti-Israel

01:01:21.440 Protests

01:01:22.080 And they've

01:01:22.760 Got a

01:01:23.080 Great

01:01:23.580 Poster in

01:01:24.820 Their window

01:01:25.240 Right now

01:01:25.800 For Christmas

01:01:27.580 Marketing

01:01:28.020 And it says

01:01:28.500 It's so good

01:01:29.740 Here

01:01:29.980 Even Santa

01:01:30.660 Shops here

01:01:31.320 With the photo

01:01:32.400 Of Santa

01:01:32.760 Going over

01:01:33.280 His list

01:01:33.760 I don't have

01:01:34.780 An issue

01:01:35.340 With this

01:01:36.420 Happening

01:01:36.900 But it's

01:01:38.660 Surprising

01:01:39.200 To me

01:01:39.600 That Trudeau

01:01:40.540 Is this

01:01:42.120 Desperate

01:01:42.900 And I think

01:01:43.300 He's jumped

01:01:43.680 In to do

01:01:44.180 This

01:01:44.460 Because he

01:01:45.500 Knows

01:01:45.880 How bad

01:01:46.940 A shape

01:01:47.280 He's in

01:01:47.640 Right now

01:01:48.120 And

01:01:48.520 The liberals

01:01:50.340 Won all

01:01:50.920 25 seats

01:01:51.840 In the last

01:01:52.380 Election

01:01:52.700 Of course

01:01:53.000 They expelled

01:01:53.640 One

01:01:54.080 In Kevin

01:01:54.840 Wong

01:01:55.280 So they

01:01:55.880 Hold 24

01:01:56.840 And 25

01:01:57.860 Seats

01:01:58.280 In Toronto

01:01:58.760 They're desperate

01:02:00.340 To hold on

01:02:00.940 To anything

01:02:01.500 The conservatives

01:02:03.440 Of course

01:02:03.900 Now hold

01:02:04.360 Toronto

01:02:04.660 St.

01:02:05.000 Paul's

01:02:05.460 And while

01:02:07.780 People thought

01:02:08.420 That was an anomaly

01:02:09.260 I think

01:02:09.920 I think

01:02:09.940 Don Stewart

01:02:10.440 Is going

01:02:10.760 To hold

01:02:11.180 It

01:02:11.400 Leslie

01:02:12.560 Church

01:02:12.900 Is out

01:02:13.220 There

01:02:13.360 Door

01:02:13.600 Knocking

01:02:13.900 Already

01:02:14.340 And campaigning

01:02:15.180 To try

01:02:15.560 And win

01:02:15.820 It back

01:02:16.140 To the

01:02:16.440 Liberals

01:02:16.820 I think

01:02:17.820 Don Stewart

01:02:18.380 Is going

01:02:18.680 To hold

01:02:19.020 It

01:02:19.240 And I

01:02:20.040 Think

01:02:20.180 There are

01:02:20.480 Many

01:02:20.960 Other

01:02:22.000 Ridings

01:02:23.540 In the

01:02:24.180 Toronto

01:02:24.440 Area

01:02:24.840 That will

01:02:26.160 Turn

01:02:27.180 Blue

01:02:27.560 And then

01:02:28.020 Others

01:02:28.480 Are going

01:02:29.640 To turn

01:02:30.220 NDP

01:02:31.280 Badly

01:02:32.500 The only

01:02:33.040 One

01:02:33.280 There was

01:02:33.500 One

01:02:33.700 Projection

01:02:34.240 Saying

01:02:34.580 The Liberals

01:02:35.920 Would be

01:02:36.260 Reduced

01:02:36.580 To one

01:02:36.940 Seat

01:02:37.220 In Toronto

01:02:37.620 And I

01:02:38.520 Think that

01:02:38.780 Was off

01:02:39.100 Of that

01:02:39.400 Abacus

01:02:39.920 Polling

01:02:40.380 And it

01:02:41.600 Showed

01:02:41.820 The NDP

01:02:42.240 Picking

01:02:42.660 Up a few

01:02:43.120 In the

01:02:43.340 Corps

01:02:43.560 The conservatives

01:02:44.420 Taking

01:02:44.800 Everything

01:02:45.280 On the

01:02:45.600 Outside

01:02:46.020 And one

01:02:46.880 Riding

01:02:47.220 Would remain

01:02:47.720 Liberal

01:02:48.000 And that's

01:02:48.400 The one

01:02:48.640 I'm sitting

01:02:49.140 In right

01:02:49.640 Now

01:02:49.980 Toronto

01:02:50.880 Centre

01:02:51.340 As I

01:02:52.000 Look out

01:02:52.420 Over the

01:02:53.140 Expans

01:02:54.300 Of all

01:02:54.600 The high

01:02:55.300 Rises

01:02:55.640 Here

01:02:55.940 From my

01:02:56.600 Window

01:02:56.860 Perch

01:02:57.320 Marcy

01:02:58.220 Ian

01:02:58.460 Would

01:02:58.740 Remain

01:02:59.180 The only

01:03:00.040 Liberal

01:03:00.760 MP

01:03:01.420 In

01:03:01.640 Toronto

01:03:01.960 And

01:03:02.740 You know

01:03:03.800 As we've

01:03:04.580 Recently heard

01:03:05.160 It's horrible

01:03:05.660 To have

01:03:06.160 Cabinet

01:03:07.120 Officials

01:03:07.940 Who've

01:03:08.200 Been

01:03:08.320 On TV

01:03:08.840 So

01:03:09.780 I wish

01:03:12.020 That she

01:03:12.340 Wouldn't

01:03:12.640 Be an

01:03:13.920 MP

01:03:14.200 Anymore

01:03:14.660 But at

01:03:15.160 Least

01:03:15.280 She won't

01:03:15.540 Be in

01:03:15.820 Cabinet

01:03:16.140 After the

01:03:16.680 Next election

01:03:17.220 Well she

01:03:17.860 May be

01:03:18.120 The only

01:03:18.420 One west

01:03:19.000 Of Quebec

01:03:19.420 Well let's

01:03:20.820 Talk about

01:03:21.200 Let's

01:03:21.480 Let's

01:03:21.980 Finish

01:03:22.280 With that

01:03:22.960 And I

01:03:24.160 Apologize

01:03:24.700 If you

01:03:24.920 Hear dogs

01:03:25.440 Panting

01:03:25.920 And stuff

01:03:26.260 I got

01:03:26.520 Puppies

01:03:27.040 And dogs

01:03:27.460 Running

01:03:27.740 In and

01:03:28.060 Out of

01:03:28.300 The room

01:03:28.700 You know

01:03:31.140 Trudeau

01:03:32.040 Is just

01:03:33.000 Looking for

01:03:33.800 Anything

01:03:34.800 To give

01:03:35.320 Himself

01:03:35.840 A lift

01:03:37.920 And

01:03:38.440 Understandably

01:03:39.240 So

01:03:39.500 He's a

01:03:39.900 Politician

01:03:40.540 He's always

01:03:41.180 Focused on

01:03:41.840 Increasing his

01:03:42.540 Popularity

01:03:43.260 And his

01:03:43.520 Electability

01:03:44.280 Canada

01:03:45.500 Post

01:03:45.980 Strike

01:03:46.360 You've

01:03:47.240 Got this

01:03:47.660 And you

01:03:48.320 And I

01:03:48.520 Say

01:03:48.700 Full

01:03:48.920 Disclosure

01:03:49.320 I've

01:03:49.680 Worked

01:03:50.160 For

01:03:50.520 Canada

01:03:50.840 Post

01:03:51.160 Management

01:03:51.640 I've

01:03:52.180 Represented

01:03:52.700 As a

01:03:53.100 Lawyer

01:03:53.420 Cup

01:03:54.100 W

01:03:54.440 Believe it

01:03:54.920 Or not

01:03:55.240 And

01:03:56.340 The union

01:03:57.520 I think

01:03:57.960 Has got a

01:03:58.400 Pretty

01:03:58.620 Unreasonable

01:03:59.320 Request

01:03:59.980 Of

01:04:00.220 22%

01:04:01.300 Increase

01:04:03.300 In what

01:04:03.760 They are

01:04:04.040 Paid

01:04:04.500 Over the

01:04:05.020 11%

01:04:05.760 The corporation

01:04:06.520 Is offering

01:04:07.160 Them

01:04:07.460 What is

01:04:08.380 What do

01:04:08.820 Trudeau

01:04:09.240 And the

01:04:09.640 Steve

01:04:09.880 McKinnon

01:04:10.400 Who is

01:04:10.760 The minister

01:04:11.320 Do

01:04:11.900 Do they

01:04:12.360 Legislate

01:04:12.960 Him back

01:04:13.260 To work

01:04:13.680 They force

01:04:14.200 Him into

01:04:14.520 Arbitration

01:04:15.120 As they've

01:04:15.640 Done

01:04:15.920 With some

01:04:16.900 Other

01:04:17.120 Labor

01:04:17.400 Disputes

01:04:18.000 Because

01:04:18.600 You know

01:04:19.220 A postal

01:04:20.160 Strike at

01:04:20.700 Christmas

01:04:21.000 Time

01:04:21.360 Not

01:04:21.820 Helpful

01:04:22.280 So

01:04:23.620 I'm of

01:04:26.280 The belief

01:04:26.700 That back

01:04:27.280 To work

01:04:27.580 Legislation

01:04:28.280 And declaring

01:04:29.380 People essential

01:04:30.040 Services

01:04:30.560 Is unconstitutional

01:04:31.940 Thanks to the

01:04:32.660 Ridiculous

01:04:33.160 2015

01:04:33.920 Supreme Court

01:04:35.040 Decision

01:04:35.500 Authored by

01:04:36.280 Rosalie

01:04:37.240 Which said

01:04:39.080 The time

01:04:40.480 Has come

01:04:40.900 To recognize

01:04:41.760 This charter

01:04:42.240 Right

01:04:42.480 She invented

01:04:43.060 It

01:04:43.500 You know

01:04:43.800 60 years

01:04:44.480 Jurisprudence

01:04:45.720 Said

01:04:46.040 There was

01:04:46.460 No

01:04:46.640 Charter

01:04:47.060 Right

01:04:47.280 To strike

01:04:47.740 I mean

01:04:48.840 That's

01:04:49.160 Both the

01:04:49.620 Charter

01:04:50.240 Era

01:04:50.500 And the

01:04:50.840 Pre-charter

01:04:51.320 Era

01:04:51.600 That was

01:04:52.440 The view

01:04:53.040 Of the

01:04:53.340 Court

01:04:53.580 In Canada

01:04:54.220 And she

01:04:55.500 Threw that

01:04:56.140 In there

01:04:56.420 And it's

01:04:56.740 Still working

01:04:57.320 Its way

01:04:57.620 Through

01:04:57.800 In fact

01:04:58.200 The last

01:04:58.880 Time

01:04:59.220 Canada

01:04:59.880 Post

01:05:00.240 Went on

01:05:00.780 Strike

01:05:01.060 They were

01:05:01.460 Legislated

01:05:02.040 Back to

01:05:02.440 Work

01:05:02.680 And that

01:05:03.280 Is being

01:05:03.820 Challenged

01:05:04.280 In the

01:05:04.560 Courts

01:05:04.860 And it's

01:05:05.080 Still working

01:05:05.540 Its way

01:05:05.940 Through

01:05:06.200 So I

01:05:07.520 Think that's

01:05:08.020 Why you're

01:05:08.340 Seeing

01:05:08.640 McKinnon

01:05:09.400 Go to

01:05:10.900 Arbitration

01:05:11.640 Which is

01:05:12.520 Kind of

01:05:12.720 A backdoor

01:05:13.540 Way of

01:05:13.920 Back to

01:05:14.260 Work

01:05:14.440 Legislation

01:05:15.160 Excuse me

01:05:16.780 He may

01:05:19.400 Have to

01:05:19.720 Do that

01:05:20.080 Look

01:05:20.340 A lot

01:05:21.500 Of us

01:05:22.280 Might think

01:05:22.820 That Canada

01:05:23.320 Post doesn't

01:05:23.880 Matter

01:05:24.180 But I saw

01:05:25.260 The CEO

01:05:25.680 Of Shopify

01:05:26.240 On Twitter

01:05:28.220 Saying look

01:05:29.340 67%

01:05:30.360 Of our

01:05:31.340 Clients

01:05:32.900 Are small

01:05:34.380 Businesses

01:05:35.080 Who ship

01:05:36.320 By Canada

01:05:36.960 Post

01:05:37.340 And Canada

01:05:38.240 Post has

01:05:38.800 Monopoly

01:05:39.340 On certain

01:05:40.280 Things such

01:05:41.060 As if you're

01:05:41.520 Delivering to

01:05:42.040 A rural

01:05:42.860 PO box

01:05:43.700 They're the

01:05:44.620 Only people

01:05:45.100 That can do

01:05:45.620 That

01:05:45.960 And so

01:05:47.240 It's going

01:05:48.000 To hurt

01:05:48.340 Them

01:05:48.660 And that

01:05:49.940 You know

01:05:50.880 You've got

01:05:51.200 Small businesses

01:05:51.940 That are relying

01:05:52.580 On that

01:05:52.960 But also

01:05:53.500 Charities

01:05:55.240 I was

01:05:56.260 Posting on

01:05:57.060 1010

01:05:57.720 And we were

01:05:58.080 Talking about

01:05:58.640 The Canada

01:05:59.660 Post strike

01:06:00.300 And I said

01:06:02.120 Does it matter

01:06:03.020 Anymore

01:06:03.480 And the woman

01:06:04.560 Called in

01:06:05.060 And said

01:06:05.320 I'm on the

01:06:05.720 Board of

01:06:06.100 The CNIB

01:06:06.720 And we do

01:06:07.740 A lot of

01:06:08.100 Direct mail

01:06:08.600 Fundraising

01:06:09.300 This time of

01:06:09.820 Year

01:06:10.000 That will

01:06:11.820 Be upended

01:06:12.900 As well

01:06:13.300 So you've

01:06:13.620 Got parcel

01:06:14.140 Delivery

01:06:14.560 You've got

01:06:16.300 Small businesses

01:06:17.240 Relying on

01:06:17.880 Payments

01:06:18.340 There's still

01:06:18.820 People paid

01:06:19.740 By check

01:06:20.260 And you've

01:06:22.000 Got charities

01:06:22.540 It's a really

01:06:24.260 Tough time

01:06:24.720 Year

01:06:24.900 And some

01:06:26.260 People still

01:06:26.820 Do send

01:06:27.280 Christmas cards

01:06:28.060 Yeah

01:06:28.820 Well I run

01:06:30.320 A small business

01:06:31.040 And you know

01:06:31.960 Some of our

01:06:32.600 Clients send us

01:06:34.040 Payment

01:06:34.760 You know

01:06:35.100 Via the mail

01:06:35.720 We send

01:06:36.240 Invoices that

01:06:36.980 Way

01:06:37.180 So

01:06:37.460 So what

01:06:38.400 Like what's

01:06:39.180 Your final

01:06:39.600 Prediction this

01:06:40.260 Week

01:06:40.460 Do you think

01:06:40.800 They'll make

01:06:41.220 A move on

01:06:41.700 It this

01:06:42.000 Week

01:06:42.280 Or

01:06:42.740 They're

01:06:42.940 Going to

01:06:43.140 Have to

01:06:43.540 Yeah

01:06:44.180 I don't

01:06:44.980 I don't

01:06:45.420 You know

01:06:45.840 I think that

01:06:46.940 They will feel

01:06:47.580 Enough pressure

01:06:48.260 It's not as

01:06:49.240 Much pressure

01:06:49.820 As the

01:06:50.660 The rail

01:06:51.820 Strikes

01:06:52.320 Or the

01:06:53.260 Ports

01:06:53.660 Shutting

01:06:54.040 Down

01:06:54.360 And that

01:06:55.180 That was

01:06:55.680 Would be

01:06:56.260 Absolutely

01:06:56.700 Crippling

01:06:57.160 That used

01:06:57.860 To be the

01:06:58.220 Case with

01:06:58.560 Canada

01:06:58.880 Post

01:06:59.200 But it's

01:06:59.580 Not anymore

01:07:00.160 Still

01:07:02.000 Still

01:07:02.280 It's still

01:07:02.780 Tough

01:07:03.140 But it's

01:07:04.600 Not the

01:07:04.920 Force it

01:07:05.300 Once was

01:07:05.680 And 22%

01:07:06.980 Give me

01:07:08.040 A break

01:07:08.540 Stats

01:07:09.900 Canada

01:07:10.260 For people

01:07:11.260 That you

01:07:11.840 Know

01:07:11.980 Are wonkish

01:07:12.800 Like me

01:07:13.340 Stats

01:07:14.000 Canada

01:07:14.380 Maintains

01:07:16.460 A

01:07:16.860 Monthly

01:07:18.200 Update

01:07:18.600 On

01:07:19.100 Collective

01:07:20.300 Agreements

01:07:20.800 Major

01:07:21.140 Collective

01:07:21.540 Agreements

01:07:22.020 Public

01:07:22.420 Sector

01:07:22.740 And private

01:07:23.180 Sector

01:07:23.500 And they

01:07:23.800 Separate

01:07:24.160 Them out

01:07:24.520 And you

01:07:25.120 Can go

01:07:25.440 On and

01:07:26.040 See

01:07:26.440 What the

01:07:27.420 Average

01:07:27.740 Is

01:07:28.020 And

01:07:29.500 And yes

01:07:30.000 Wage

01:07:30.380 Settlements

01:07:31.120 In

01:07:31.800 Collective

01:07:32.480 Agreements

01:07:33.000 Have been

01:07:33.720 Going up

01:07:34.260 Even

01:07:36.380 Unifor

01:07:36.860 Got

01:07:37.200 Post

01:07:38.580 Media

01:07:38.940 Small

01:07:39.340 Raise

01:07:39.660 Recently

01:07:40.120 But

01:07:40.920 Nobody's

01:07:42.240 Getting

01:07:42.520 That kind

01:07:43.960 Of

01:07:44.240 22%

01:07:46.480 That

01:07:46.880 Is

01:07:47.820 Ridiculous

01:07:48.800 And it's

01:07:49.820 Not in

01:07:50.140 Keeping

01:07:50.460 So they

01:07:51.280 May get

01:07:52.080 More than

01:07:52.460 11

01:07:52.860 From an

01:07:53.540 Arbitrator

01:07:54.020 But they

01:07:54.400 Will not

01:07:54.820 Get 22

01:07:55.520 Especially

01:07:56.880 From an

01:07:57.320 Employer

01:07:57.760 As you

01:07:58.020 Pointed out

01:07:58.440 To me

01:07:58.680 The other

01:07:59.000 Day

01:07:59.300 That's

01:08:00.020 Losing

01:08:00.320 Lots

01:08:00.640 Of

01:08:00.780 Money

01:08:01.000 They've

01:08:02.140 Lost

01:08:02.400 3

01:08:02.740 Billion

01:08:03.080 Over

01:08:03.260 The last

01:08:03.600 Several

01:08:03.840 Years

01:08:04.220 And

01:08:06.400 You know

01:08:07.580 The union

01:08:08.720 Wants to

01:08:09.220 Keep job

01:08:09.800 Security

01:08:10.240 And higher

01:08:11.340 Wages

01:08:11.900 For a

01:08:12.580 Service that

01:08:13.060 Fewer

01:08:13.380 People are

01:08:13.800 Using

01:08:14.220 That's

01:08:15.540 Not

01:08:15.920 Realistic

01:08:16.580 Not in

01:08:17.220 Any

01:08:17.560 Industry

01:08:17.960 No

01:08:18.780 No

01:08:19.340 For

01:08:19.540 Sure

01:08:19.760 Brian

01:08:20.880 The elite

01:08:21.240 Informed

01:08:22.200 And informative

01:08:23.260 And prescient

01:08:24.440 As always

01:08:25.520 Thank you so

01:08:27.180 Much

01:08:27.480 For

01:08:28.980 Your

01:08:29.660 Input

01:08:30.340 Have a

01:08:31.320 Great

01:08:31.520 Day

01:08:31.860 And have

01:08:32.960 A great

01:08:33.260 Week

01:08:33.580 Up

01:08:34.640 Up

01:08:34.680 In

01:08:34.900 I don't

01:08:43.440 I don't want to be the one who writes flame

01:08:46.920 I don't want to be the one who writes flame

01:08:59.020 I don't know her name

01:09:01.160 And I don't want to go where the seekers all go

01:09:06.200 I don't want to go

01:09:08.460 I don't want to go

01:09:08.480 You can feel anything you want to feel

01:09:13.980 You can feel anything you want to feel

01:09:17.700 In complete

01:09:18.940 But I don't want to be the one who writes flame

01:09:24.820 I don't want to be the one who writes flame

01:09:28.740 I can't complain though I'm wrapped up in chains

01:09:39.700 I can't complain

01:09:41.360 Everybody's got the right to be free

01:09:46.700 But that's not me

01:09:48.920 And you can feel anything you want to feel

01:09:54.520 You can feel anything you want to feel

01:09:58.200 You can feel anything you want to feel

01:10:01.940 And call it real

01:10:03.680 But I don't want to be the one who writes flame

01:10:09.080 I don't want to be the one who writes flame

01:10:28.200 I don't want to be the one who writes flame

01:10:30.700 I don't want to feel anything you want to feel

01:10:32.520 I don't want to feel anything you want to feel

01:10:33.940 Hit the flame, burn a hole in my brain

01:11:00.580 I'll never be the same

01:11:02.740 I try to take it slow, but she's pushing me to go

01:11:07.820 But I don't wanna go

01:11:10.060 And you can feel everything you wanna feel

01:11:15.540 You can feel everything you wanna feel

01:11:19.240 You can feel everything you wanna feel

01:11:22.980 And call it real

01:11:24.700 But I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:11:30.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:11:37.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:11:45.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:11:52.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:11:59.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:12:01.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:12:02.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:12:06.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:12:13.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

01:12:15.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame

kinsellacast - November 17, 2024

KINSELLACAST 336： Mraz, Kheririddin, Lilley - sane people on the lunatics running the asylum, plus Iron Chic, Toys That Kill, Dillinger Four, Sebadoh

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