kinsellacast - November 17, 2024


KINSELLACAST 336: Mraz, Kheririddin, Lilley - sane people on the lunatics running the asylum, plus Iron Chic, Toys That Kill, Dillinger Four, Sebadoh


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This week on The Kinsella Cast, Warren talks about his recent trip to the Giller Prize in support of his friend Lisa McLeod, John Rabinovich's new documentary, and why the people are always right.

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00:00:00.000 It's the Kinsella Cast, starring Warren Kinsella.
00:00:19.040 Hey, it's Warren, welcome to the Kinsella Cast, and it's a brief Kinsella Cast this week.
00:00:24.440 Tasha Carradine and I, John Rez and I, I'm not sure where Brian really is, but I think
00:00:29.920 him a break, shorter show, and I think I'm entitled to do that, because last week's was
00:00:35.860 a marathon of commentary, and so yeah, shorter this week.
00:00:42.980 I was up in Ottawa and gave a speech to the JNF, and in support of my friend Lisa McLeod,
00:00:51.320 and that was well received, I think, I think.
00:00:55.040 And what else happened?
00:00:58.900 Saw Mr. Kretzian, that was great, it was terrific to see him.
00:01:02.360 Saw my son, saw my buddy Alan, and then I'm back in Toronto this week, going to go to the
00:01:09.920 Giller Prize to support my friend, Ms. Rabinovich, and also speak about the forthcoming documentary,
00:01:19.300 which I'll be telling you guys about in due course.
00:01:22.680 And yeah, so busy, busy until Jingle Bells hits.
00:01:27.960 I've had a request, actually a few of you requested this, that I list, again, the bands and the
00:01:35.240 song titles.
00:01:36.060 I figured all of you were just getting it from Shazam or whatever, but I'll make it easy for
00:01:42.060 you.
00:01:42.260 You're going to hear Iron Sheik. 0.88
00:01:43.780 You can't stay safe.
00:01:44.860 They're from Long Island, five-piece there, they kind of, they have this real DIY, do-it-yourself
00:01:50.220 ethic, which is very admirable.
00:01:52.920 Toys That Kill doing a split single with I Am Decided, and I love Joyce Manor, as you
00:02:00.100 guys probably know, but Toys That Kill are from San Pedro, and they've got the better song
00:02:05.960 on the record.
00:02:06.740 Sorry, Joyce Manor.
00:02:07.940 Dillinger 4 I met years ago, or after that, with a jingle for the product, and funny, smart
00:02:20.060 guys.
00:02:20.580 Met them when they were opening for NoFX, and just a great band from Minneapolis.
00:02:27.100 Been around for, Christ, for 30 years.
00:02:31.000 Punk rock's grown old.
00:02:32.160 Um, so, the people are always right.
00:02:36.340 John Turner said that the decade before.
00:02:38.840 He said that on September 4th, 1984, and his Liberal Party, which I had worked for, had
00:02:46.400 just been crushed by Brian Mulroney's conservatives.
00:02:50.440 On that occasion, um, so long ago, it felt like Turner was, was right.
00:02:55.980 The people had spoken.
00:02:57.140 These days, I'm not so sure.
00:02:59.380 These days, it's pretty hard to believe that the people are always right.
00:03:03.040 In the United States of America, for instance, the people chose Donald Trump.
00:03:07.200 It was a free and fair election.
00:03:08.900 Democrats respected the outcome.
00:03:10.660 They didn't convene secret meetings of fake electors.
00:03:13.380 They didn't allege the election had been stolen.
00:03:15.800 They didn't instigate a riot on the Capitol.
00:03:19.980 But in the days since the election, America and the world, and many within Trump's own party,
00:03:25.000 have been shocked by his selections for cabinet.
00:03:27.680 There's Kennedy, Robert Kennedy Jr., who I knew at one point, who famously opposes vaccines, 0.98
00:03:34.340 says he's got a worm in his brain.
00:03:36.120 Those two things may be related, actually.
00:03:39.000 He wants, uh, Trump wants to put Kennedy in charge of healthcare for millions of Americans,
00:03:43.500 which has got lots of physicians and experts predicting a return of measles and polio and,
00:03:49.420 and other preventable diseases.
00:03:51.740 There's Tulsi Gabbard, who has been an enthusiastic supporter of Syria's genocidal regime,
00:03:58.360 and he is credibly accused of being a Russian asset.
00:04:02.720 Trump wants her to be in charge of the intelligence community in the United States.
00:04:06.840 There's Matt Gaetz, who's been investigated for sex with a minor. 1.00
00:04:10.700 He's a pedophile. 1.00
00:04:12.660 Illegal drug use, accepting improper gifts. 1.00
00:04:15.000 Trump wants him to be America's Attorney General.
00:04:18.220 There's Pete Hegseth, who's never had a military command role,
00:04:22.660 and said, has said he hasn't washed his hands in a decade because germs aren't real.
00:04:29.660 Okay, did you get that?
00:04:33.060 Then there's Elon Musk, of course, who everybody knows.
00:04:36.060 The billionaire who has been secretly meeting with Iranian officials,
00:04:39.400 which is the New York Times has reported,
00:04:41.800 has delighted the Ayatollahs in Iran, who called it positive and good news.
00:04:47.300 Trump brought Musk in for all kinds of meetings,
00:04:49.960 without ensuring first that the ex-owner has a security clearance.
00:04:55.920 And anyway, up here we've got a Prime Minister who's worn racist black, 0.95
00:04:58.900 racist blackface, who's never been cleared of groping a reporter, 0.81
00:05:03.180 who's found culpable in multiple corruption scandals, 0.98
00:05:06.680 and who A, claims to be anti-racist, B, feminist,
00:05:10.120 C, leading a responsible and ethical government.
00:05:12.880 You've got Montreal's mayor up here,
00:05:14.840 who's appeared indifferent to Jewish schools being shot up
00:05:17.360 and synagogues being firebombed.
00:05:19.340 And then you've got Charles' mayor, similarly responding to attacks on the Jewish community.
00:05:24.840 And she wants bubble zones around bike lanes, 1.00
00:05:27.380 but not around places of worship.
00:05:30.480 And then this week, there is the leader of the city of Mississauga.
00:05:36.040 Mississauga, where, by the way,
00:05:38.080 people celebrated Hamas' atrocities on October 7th,
00:05:41.840 and who then went on to elect as mayor, Carolyn Parrish. 0.96
00:05:45.920 Here's just a few of the things Parrish has said before she was elected.
00:05:49.860 You can find them all on social media.
00:05:52.320 She's called Israel a permanent occupying force.
00:05:56.120 She's accused Israelis of theft of Hamas-run Gaza.
00:06:01.660 She said Israel has stolen huge tracts of land and is destroying Palestine.
00:06:06.000 She says that conservatives have ruined Canadian credibility for the support of Israel.
00:06:13.060 She said charging Israel with war crimes is legal and a democratic process. 0.95
00:06:17.860 She said she supports BDS, boycott, divest, and sanction.
00:06:21.940 She says the Jewish state uses starvation as a technique of war.
00:06:30.200 And she's defended the tunnels that Hamas built, 0.71
00:06:33.020 said they're just for food, goods, medical supplies, water,
00:06:36.100 and not to hold prisoners hostage,
00:06:38.920 and not to plan a pogrom against Israel.
00:06:43.340 Anyway, and then this week, of course, famously,
00:06:46.740 she compared Nelson Mandela,
00:06:50.960 Nobel Prize recipient,
00:06:53.160 to Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar,
00:06:56.840 who devised October 7th,
00:06:58.920 which is the biggest mass murder Jew since the Holocaust.
00:07:03.080 There's a lot more, if you have a stomach for it,
00:07:06.200 but Trump and Trudeau and Parrish and Plante and Chow,
00:07:11.220 they're not the only mistakes that people have made.
00:07:15.020 Are the people always right?
00:07:16.680 No.
00:07:17.840 In fact, these days, the people are often wrong.
00:07:21.720 But they always, always end up getting the governments they deserve.
00:07:41.220 Thank you.
00:07:42.720 guitar solo
00:08:12.720 guitar solo
00:08:42.720 Be scared of what's too hard
00:08:46.980 Sing a prayer with a melody
00:08:49.960 Just breathing is hard enough
00:08:54.720 You can't stay safe
00:08:58.180 You can't stay here
00:09:01.720 You can't face the memory
00:09:04.720 Be careful with what you love
00:09:09.880 Everything you love
00:09:12.500 It's easy for seven times
00:09:17.500 You can't stay safe
00:09:20.880 You can't stay here
00:09:26.080 Yes, I can't stay
00:09:34.780 Yes, I can't stay here
00:09:38.080 And we're back
00:09:41.400 And we're back with John Merez and John
00:09:43.520 I don't know if you can hear
00:09:44.340 But there's like crows crowing
00:09:46.720 And I'm in my backyard here
00:09:49.220 In Prince Edward County
00:09:50.380 With my puppy, Tommy
00:09:52.080 Tommy, you haven't met him yet
00:09:53.980 He's this black lab 0.73
00:09:55.960 And he's going to be really big 0.89
00:09:57.740 And he's pretty smart
00:09:59.120 So I thought
00:09:59.640 Let's just make this podcast authentic
00:10:02.280 To start and be out in the backyard
00:10:04.780 And ask John Merez
00:10:07.880 This is like the worst segue ever
00:10:10.340 John, like
00:10:12.540 Has the United States of America lost its mind?
00:10:16.040 Like, you know, a Russian asset
00:10:19.860 In charge of national intelligence 0.87
00:10:21.860 A pedophile attorney general 1.00
00:10:25.840 A guy with a worm in his brain 1.00
00:10:27.940 In charge of health care 0.99
00:10:29.080 Like, have they lost their minds?
00:10:31.680 Or have we?
00:10:33.040 I like the guy who's now in charge of the military
00:10:35.540 Who hasn't washed his hands in 10 years
00:10:37.700 Because he doesn't believe germs exist
00:10:39.580 You know, if I had told you
00:10:42.500 This was going to happen 10 years ago
00:10:43.960 You would have lost my phone number forever
00:10:46.160 I would say this
00:10:47.960 This is like
00:10:48.720 I was trying to think of the appropriate expression
00:10:51.580 For the shura of dingbats 1.00
00:10:55.360 It's a murder of cockwombles 1.00
00:10:57.740 It's an unbelievable assembly
00:11:00.240 You think of Lincoln's team of rivals
00:11:02.600 These extraordinary five men
00:11:04.280 Who changed the nature of slavery
00:11:05.900 And brought the Civil War to an end
00:11:08.000 And then you look at these guys
00:11:09.420 And here's how we know
00:11:11.440 That the world is thrilled
00:11:13.180 China, Russia, and India
00:11:15.180 Have all said
00:11:16.460 We love these appointments
00:11:18.660 Which is to say
00:11:21.020 They see a weakness in America now
00:11:22.880 Now, I want to add one final thing
00:11:24.940 I have maintained to my son
00:11:26.600 And anybody who listened for decades
00:11:28.420 That politics is really about money
00:11:30.880 And kitchen cabinets
00:11:33.360 And you know there's some truth to that
00:11:35.340 The people who really make decisions
00:11:38.120 I like to believe
00:11:39.340 Are not the politicians themselves
00:11:41.120 They're advisors
00:11:41.900 They're experts
00:11:43.180 They're smart
00:11:43.800 Maybe 0.99
00:11:44.820 These people are just sock puppets 0.58
00:11:47.180 For 0.95
00:11:47.540 A new regime
00:11:49.500 An economic regime
00:11:50.480 And nothing will happen
00:11:51.440 I liked what you posted this week
00:11:53.000 You said
00:11:53.300 Maybe he's not a fascist
00:11:54.820 I'd like to hope so
00:11:56.700 But this looks bananas to me
00:11:59.400 It does
00:12:01.020 Because these people
00:12:02.380 Have real power
00:12:03.940 As I said on CFRA this morning
00:12:05.740 Like they arguably
00:12:07.440 These cabinet secretaries
00:12:09.380 Have more power
00:12:10.660 Than any Canadian prime minister
00:12:13.320 You know
00:12:13.960 In terms of trade
00:12:14.980 In terms of intelligence
00:12:16.500 In terms of healthcare
00:12:17.520 Like you know
00:12:18.340 If we have another pandemic
00:12:19.440 And we do at the moment
00:12:20.660 We have an outbreak
00:12:22.420 Of bird flu
00:12:23.320 Out in BC
00:12:24.160 A kid has got bird flu
00:12:26.760 And is in critical condition
00:12:28.220 And they don't know how he got it
00:12:29.980 Because he wasn't near
00:12:30.880 Any flocks of birds
00:12:32.240 So if we have another pandemic
00:12:34.180 You know
00:12:36.080 And you've got a guy like
00:12:37.620 Bobby Kennedy Jr.
00:12:39.940 In charge of the system
00:12:41.180 Like isn't that bad news
00:12:43.160 For Canada?
00:12:45.560 I don't know
00:12:46.400 Two thoughts on this
00:12:47.240 One is
00:12:47.920 You and I both worked
00:12:49.320 In governments
00:12:49.860 And seen bureaucrats
00:12:51.180 Manage to obstruct
00:12:52.960 Bad decisions
00:12:54.080 Just through intransigence
00:12:55.680 Not getting it done
00:12:57.160 Losing files
00:12:58.080 Etc
00:12:58.480 So maybe that's
00:12:59.820 Part of the solution
00:13:00.600 The other thing is
00:13:01.380 There's some entitlement here
00:13:03.080 When you talk about
00:13:03.820 Bird flu on the west coast
00:13:05.200 Of Canada
00:13:05.700 I lived in Africa
00:13:06.980 As you know
00:13:07.720 For quite a while
00:13:08.740 At points
00:13:09.220 They have dengue
00:13:10.680 Yellow fever
00:13:11.500 Malaria
00:13:12.140 And 60 other
00:13:14.360 Pandemics
00:13:15.720 Every day
00:13:17.480 And they get through life
00:13:18.960 So perhaps
00:13:20.040 And then you go to RFK
00:13:21.840 The guy who like
00:13:22.520 Buried a bear
00:13:23.360 In Central Park
00:13:24.140 I don't even know
00:13:24.620 What to do with that
00:13:25.340 But
00:13:25.560 And you know
00:13:27.460 Who's actually
00:13:29.220 Smoked more cigarettes
00:13:30.180 Than I have
00:13:30.860 Listen to his
00:13:31.680 Anyway
00:13:32.160 He was a dealer
00:13:34.260 At Harvard
00:13:34.880 He was the guy
00:13:35.660 You went to
00:13:36.160 To get heroin
00:13:36.820 Like
00:13:37.280 Well he was a junkie
00:13:38.300 For 12 years
00:13:38.960 You know
00:13:39.280 And I admire the fact
00:13:40.400 That he quit
00:13:41.440 But he's not
00:13:42.280 Necessarily qualified
00:13:43.560 He's going around
00:13:44.920 Saying he doesn't want
00:13:45.760 Vaccines of any sort
00:13:47.240 Whatsoever
00:13:47.860 You want to talk
00:13:49.780 About a genocide
00:13:50.480 Anyway
00:13:52.040 I have trouble
00:13:53.940 Believing that
00:13:54.800 Any of this
00:13:55.380 Will happen
00:13:55.820 Or it's true
00:13:56.380 Because if I did
00:13:58.100 I mean
00:13:59.660 I'd be moving
00:14:00.380 To Thunder Bay
00:14:01.040 And getting off
00:14:01.900 The grid
00:14:02.320 Because this is
00:14:03.200 Madness
00:14:04.240 Well you sound
00:14:05.300 Like you're trying
00:14:05.760 To convince yourself
00:14:06.400 Okay well then
00:14:07.020 How about a subject
00:14:07.840 That you know
00:14:09.000 A lot about
00:14:09.760 Which is
00:14:11.260 Intelligence
00:14:12.100 And national
00:14:12.960 Intelligence
00:14:13.540 And security
00:14:14.360 Concerns
00:14:15.140 Of nations
00:14:16.240 Tulsi Gabbard
00:14:17.700 The former
00:14:18.360 So she belongs
00:14:19.080 To a religious cult
00:14:20.240 Was a democrat
00:14:22.040 Became a republican
00:14:23.600 In the past few weeks
00:14:25.360 And she is
00:14:27.800 An enthusiastic
00:14:29.640 And open supporter
00:14:30.740 Of the genocidal regime
00:14:33.160 Of Bashar al-Assad
00:14:34.400 In Syria
00:14:35.240 Has received money
00:14:37.880 From the Syrian government
00:14:39.120 We know
00:14:40.260 It is believed
00:14:42.560 By many reasonable people
00:14:44.320 That she's a Russian asset 0.98
00:14:45.600 What does it mean
00:14:46.880 For the world
00:14:47.780 And the United States
00:14:49.440 If she
00:14:50.000 Is put in charge
00:14:51.280 Of the intelligence
00:14:52.280 Establishment
00:14:53.160 Is she related
00:14:54.700 To Melanie Jolie
00:14:55.680 That's what I keep
00:14:57.160 On wondering
00:14:57.560 I think Melanie Jolie
00:14:58.900 Is Albert Einstein
00:14:59.780 I don't know
00:15:00.360 Once again
00:15:01.060 I like to think
00:15:01.720 The United States
00:15:02.480 Is famous
00:15:03.140 In its democratic system
00:15:04.520 Or republican system
00:15:05.380 Very different than ours
00:15:06.180 For checks and balances
00:15:07.460 Those checks and balances
00:15:09.480 Are not just a simple
00:15:10.820 Like you know
00:15:11.480 Senate, congress
00:15:12.480 President
00:15:13.120 And the supreme court
00:15:14.440 There are lots of checks
00:15:15.460 And balances
00:15:15.900 All the way down
00:15:16.860 So I don't know
00:15:17.840 What it means
00:15:18.300 I do know
00:15:19.240 That she's being promoted
00:15:21.460 As all I've ever seen
00:15:23.920 Online on three different platforms
00:15:25.820 Is her in a bathing suit 0.54
00:15:27.160 And she's a very beautiful woman
00:15:28.540 And I know it's unfashionable
00:15:30.100 To be straight
00:15:30.680 But I would say that
00:15:31.560 You know
00:15:32.380 She's a beautiful woman
00:15:34.600 But I'm not sure
00:15:37.540 We know who these people
00:15:39.000 Really are
00:15:39.880 Because I'm not sure
00:15:41.360 I believe
00:15:41.800 Anything coming out
00:15:42.780 Of the left
00:15:43.180 Or the right
00:15:43.880 Maybe they're capable
00:15:44.800 A bunch of them
00:15:46.000 Got degrees
00:15:46.640 To pretty fine schools
00:15:48.220 And they've survived
00:15:50.020 Politics for long periods
00:15:51.460 Of time
00:15:51.960 And they seem to be
00:15:53.240 Playing the Trump game
00:15:54.100 Of bombastic
00:15:55.540 Outrageous rhetoric
00:15:56.820 But as I recall
00:15:58.720 Not that I liked
00:15:59.580 The first Trump administration
00:16:00.800 The way he handled COVID
00:16:01.860 The world did not end
00:16:03.440 Yeah
00:16:05.660 But you know
00:16:06.660 Several million people
00:16:07.800 Did die needlessly
00:16:08.980 There was that
00:16:09.940 But
00:16:10.960 And
00:16:11.560 You know
00:16:12.880 And bad things
00:16:13.760 Did happen
00:16:14.520 In the Trump years
00:16:15.720 You know
00:16:16.060 I guess the price of eggs
00:16:17.140 Was a bit cheaper
00:16:17.980 But
00:16:18.400 But you know
00:16:19.520 Again
00:16:20.020 The only thing
00:16:21.420 I learned in law school
00:16:22.420 When I got at the other end
00:16:23.560 Of it is
00:16:24.020 To ask myself
00:16:25.700 Always
00:16:26.280 What if I'm wrong
00:16:27.420 What if I'm wrong
00:16:28.820 Like
00:16:29.320 You know
00:16:30.040 Let's take a look
00:16:30.800 At Matt Gaetz
00:16:32.440 As attorney general
00:16:33.940 He said he wants
00:16:34.740 To get rid of the FBI
00:16:35.780 He wants to use
00:16:37.800 The
00:16:38.200 Justice Department
00:16:39.820 As a
00:16:41.220 Vehicle
00:16:42.640 To
00:16:43.620 Go after
00:16:44.980 Trump's enemies
00:16:45.840 And his enemies
00:16:47.420 Like
00:16:48.100 Does that not
00:16:49.440 Undermine confidence
00:16:50.680 In the rule of law
00:16:51.840 In the United States
00:16:52.560 Or
00:16:52.760 Should we 0.99
00:16:53.480 Give a shit about that 0.99
00:16:54.600 Well 1.00
00:16:55.260 By Occam's razor
00:16:56.140 I would think
00:16:56.580 The first thing he'd do
00:16:57.540 Is to
00:16:58.180 Cull
00:16:58.660 Or eliminate
00:16:59.340 The investigation
00:17:00.160 Into his
00:17:01.660 They used to call it
00:17:02.520 Statutory rape
00:17:03.240 But now it's called
00:17:03.880 Trafficking
00:17:04.540 Of a 17 year old
00:17:06.320 Yeah
00:17:07.160 Yeah
00:17:08.100 I saw this video
00:17:11.160 Just to
00:17:11.640 Go to a different
00:17:12.540 The other day
00:17:13.800 Online
00:17:14.220 Of Trump preparing
00:17:15.220 For a debate
00:17:15.880 In the back room
00:17:17.140 Warren
00:17:17.500 We've been in that
00:17:18.200 Back room
00:17:18.560 We've both
00:17:19.000 Been there
00:17:19.880 With big politicians
00:17:21.180 Before debates
00:17:21.980 Trump is
00:17:23.300 Sanguine
00:17:23.960 Listening to advice
00:17:25.220 Making sense
00:17:26.260 He walks on stage
00:17:27.560 And becomes 1.00
00:17:28.420 A gibbering idiot 1.00
00:17:29.640 Word salad 1.00
00:17:30.860 What did he call it
00:17:32.040 Like
00:17:32.220 The wedge
00:17:33.680 Yeah
00:17:34.540 No the weave 1.00
00:17:35.500 He called it the weave
00:17:36.780 The weave
00:17:37.860 Pardon me
00:17:38.260 I asked myself
00:17:39.800 Is this all an act
00:17:41.200 And I just hope so
00:17:43.480 I guess
00:17:43.920 I'm trying to be
00:17:44.600 Optimistic
00:17:45.140 But commenters
00:17:46.180 Commenters
00:17:47.000 The commentariat
00:17:47.860 Have been saying that
00:17:49.060 For 10 years
00:17:50.160 Oh he couldn't
00:17:50.820 Possibly be serious
00:17:52.300 But you look at
00:17:53.480 Something like
00:17:53.960 Project 25
00:17:54.900 And it strongly
00:17:56.140 Suggests
00:17:56.900 That he is
00:17:57.640 Or if he's not
00:17:58.700 The people
00:17:59.620 That he's empowered
00:18:00.480 Some of whom
00:18:01.200 We've just talked
00:18:01.940 About
00:18:02.340 Are serious
00:18:03.400 So let's
00:18:04.200 Let's move it
00:18:05.040 To Canada then
00:18:05.920 Which we both
00:18:06.980 Know a bit more
00:18:07.920 About
00:18:08.380 So
00:18:09.280 You know
00:18:10.320 20% tariffs
00:18:12.200 On
00:18:12.640 Canadian softwood
00:18:14.400 And auto parts
00:18:15.500 And agricultural
00:18:16.860 Products
00:18:17.740 And you know
00:18:19.520 Kicking people
00:18:20.500 Out of the United States 0.98
00:18:21.600 Who then
00:18:22.080 It's expected
00:18:23.140 Reasonably
00:18:23.780 Would flood
00:18:24.240 Across our borders
00:18:25.360 Like what is
00:18:26.580 All of this
00:18:27.400 Madness
00:18:28.140 Because that's
00:18:28.580 What it seems
00:18:29.040 Like to me
00:18:29.700 What does this
00:18:30.700 Madness mean
00:18:31.460 For Canada
00:18:32.100 Well if you're
00:18:34.640 Donald Trump
00:18:35.140 And you don't
00:18:35.480 Want to deal
00:18:35.800 With Justin Trudeau
00:18:36.540 And he clearly
00:18:37.000 Hates him
00:18:37.540 And his government 0.75
00:18:38.300 And you want
00:18:39.240 Pierre Polly
00:18:39.720 Avga
00:18:40.060 Because he's
00:18:40.620 Somebody you
00:18:41.340 Identify with
00:18:42.180 At least some
00:18:42.800 Of his policies
00:18:43.520 Although he
00:18:44.300 Makes Trump
00:18:44.800 Look
00:18:45.040 And Pierre
00:18:46.760 Looks just
00:18:47.260 Angelic
00:18:47.920 Compared to
00:18:48.280 Trump
00:18:48.500 Wouldn't you
00:18:50.760 Threaten all
00:18:51.600 Of those things
00:18:52.540 To ensure
00:18:54.400 A quick election
00:18:55.340 And the rise
00:18:56.760 To power
00:18:57.260 Of somebody
00:18:57.820 Who was
00:18:58.160 Prepared
00:18:58.680 To work
00:18:59.540 With Donald
00:18:59.980 Trump
00:19:00.260 One of the
00:19:00.960 Interesting
00:19:01.340 Things about
00:19:02.440 Project
00:19:04.060 You know
00:19:04.820 That was written
00:19:05.340 And everybody
00:19:05.800 Talks about
00:19:06.380 The secret
00:19:06.860 Document
00:19:07.280 The manifesto
00:19:08.120 Of the
00:19:08.340 Trumpians
00:19:08.880 Is 0.88
00:19:10.800 There is
00:19:11.960 Illusions to
00:19:13.460 And if Canada
00:19:14.520 Or Mexico
00:19:14.940 Get in the way
00:19:15.500 We'll just
00:19:16.100 Take them
00:19:17.060 They're states
00:19:18.100 Anyway
00:19:18.520 That's the
00:19:19.680 Subtext of that
00:19:20.460 Document
00:19:20.900 We own
00:19:22.500 The economy
00:19:22.880 And
00:19:23.660 In Veritas
00:19:25.820 They do
00:19:26.520 Right
00:19:27.600 Without the
00:19:28.240 American economy
00:19:28.900 Right next to us
00:19:29.580 I don't know
00:19:29.940 What we'd be doing
00:19:30.720 I mean
00:19:31.140 So
00:19:32.320 I
00:19:33.240 You know
00:19:33.680 Trump says
00:19:34.300 A lot of stuff
00:19:35.060 The minute
00:19:36.600 That he was
00:19:37.500 The president
00:19:38.020 Elected
00:19:38.760 Yemen
00:19:39.080 Is out of
00:19:39.700 The war
00:19:40.260 Hamas 0.96
00:19:41.000 Wants
00:19:41.360 You know
00:19:42.040 Hezbollah
00:19:42.920 At the table
00:19:43.720 Putin
00:19:44.280 Is sending
00:19:45.320 Messages
00:19:45.780 Through his
00:19:46.380 National media
00:19:47.580 Who knows
00:19:48.020 Who he's
00:19:48.280 Talking to
00:19:48.860 The world
00:19:49.660 Did change
00:19:50.180 The Dow
00:19:50.620 And the
00:19:50.840 Nasdaq
00:19:51.360 Went up
00:19:51.780 Through immediate
00:19:53.080 Effects
00:19:53.540 Just as a result
00:19:54.480 Of the potential
00:19:55.540 That he could
00:19:57.640 Bring to the table
00:19:58.400 And so he talks
00:19:59.220 About these
00:19:59.560 Terrorists with
00:20:00.040 Canada
00:20:00.400 He doesn't
00:20:01.800 Want software
00:20:02.380 Lumber
00:20:03.240 Disputes
00:20:03.680 He wants
00:20:04.080 NAFTA
00:20:04.580 To be
00:20:05.100 American
00:20:05.640 Driven
00:20:06.020 And by
00:20:06.540 Proportion
00:20:07.060 It is
00:20:07.660 And I
00:20:08.380 Like his
00:20:08.840 Threat
00:20:09.080 By the way
00:20:09.540 I hate
00:20:09.940 Saying this
00:20:10.280 I like
00:20:10.700 His
00:20:10.860 Threat
00:20:11.040 We should
00:20:11.660 Pay 2%
00:20:12.340 Of our
00:20:12.620 GDP
00:20:12.920 Towards
00:20:13.360 NATO
00:20:13.600 I agree
00:20:14.420 I said
00:20:14.820 The same
00:20:15.140 Thing
00:20:15.380 On CFR
00:20:15.940 Okay
00:20:16.620 Well let's
00:20:17.040 Talk about
00:20:17.540 Then finally
00:20:18.320 Final question
00:20:19.800 To you
00:20:20.340 For this
00:20:21.880 Week's show
00:20:22.600 Is a subject
00:20:23.440 We've talked
00:20:24.000 About quite a
00:20:24.640 Bit in the
00:20:25.120 Past three
00:20:25.580 Years
00:20:25.820 Which is
00:20:26.220 Ukraine
00:20:26.640 So you
00:20:28.000 Had musk
00:20:28.740 And one
00:20:30.180 Of trump's 0.99
00:20:30.840 Bastard sons 0.97
00:20:31.720 Openly 1.00
00:20:32.580 Mocking
00:20:33.140 Vladimir
00:20:34.200 Zelensky
00:20:34.900 On social
00:20:35.840 Media this
00:20:36.420 Week
00:20:36.740 And
00:20:37.420 Zelensky
00:20:38.360 Is out
00:20:38.680 There
00:20:39.000 Saying I
00:20:39.920 Think things
00:20:40.400 Will be
00:20:40.640 Better
00:20:40.980 With trump
00:20:41.540 Than it
00:20:41.880 Actually
00:20:42.180 Was with
00:20:42.660 Biden
00:20:43.020 And again
00:20:43.960 Sounds like
00:20:44.700 He's trying
00:20:45.160 To convince
00:20:45.600 Himself
00:20:46.000 Of that
00:20:46.380 I
00:20:47.120 I don't
00:20:47.760 Think anybody
00:20:48.240 Believes
00:20:48.760 That
00:20:49.040 Do you
00:20:49.480 Do you
00:20:49.800 Think that
00:20:50.260 I think
00:20:51.260 The trump
00:20:51.640 Guys mean
00:20:52.200 It
00:20:52.360 I think
00:20:52.680 They're
00:20:52.840 Going to
00:20:53.020 Cut
00:20:53.260 Ukraine 0.98
00:20:53.720 Off
00:20:54.060 I'm
00:20:55.480 Going to
00:20:55.620 Get in
00:20:55.820 A world 1.00
00:20:56.160 Of shit 1.00
00:20:56.460 For saying 1.00
00:20:56.840 So well
00:20:57.260 But what
00:20:57.520 I really
00:20:57.760 Think
00:20:57.960 My son
00:20:58.800 Had
00:20:59.080 One of
00:20:59.900 His best
00:21:00.180 Friends
00:21:00.420 He's
00:21:00.580 Ukrainian
00:21:01.000 His whole
00:21:01.800 Family
00:21:02.120 Have left
00:21:02.600 And I
00:21:04.300 Love this
00:21:04.740 Kid
00:21:04.980 He's been
00:21:05.320 Around my
00:21:05.680 House for
00:21:06.020 Ten years
00:21:06.400 And he
00:21:06.660 Asked me
00:21:07.140 Malik
00:21:08.240 Malik asked 0.79
00:21:08.880 Me
00:21:09.140 He said
00:21:09.920 What's
00:21:10.520 Going to
00:21:10.700 Happen
00:21:11.400 And
00:21:11.820 Which is
00:21:12.900 Ironic
00:21:13.280 Because I'm
00:21:13.900 Not Ukrainian 1.00
00:21:14.420 But I did
00:21:14.880 Spend a lot
00:21:15.300 Of time
00:21:15.620 There
00:21:15.800 And I
00:21:16.020 Said this
00:21:16.340 Is what's
00:21:16.680 Going to
00:21:16.860 Happen
00:21:17.500 This
00:21:18.880 Managed
00:21:20.300 War
00:21:20.700 That has
00:21:21.440 Provided
00:21:22.040 Three
00:21:23.080 Continents
00:21:23.880 Manufacturing
00:21:24.960 Capital
00:21:25.480 That kept
00:21:27.060 Economies
00:21:27.660 Float
00:21:28.140 Whether it's
00:21:28.680 Biden
00:21:29.020 Or Putin
00:21:29.580 Or the
00:21:30.240 EU's
00:21:30.860 Well now
00:21:32.740 It's starting
00:21:33.100 To hurt
00:21:33.440 Them 0.95
00:21:33.620 And the
00:21:34.620 War will 0.95
00:21:34.960 End
00:21:35.260 And Ukraine
00:21:36.480 Will be
00:21:37.400 Subject
00:21:37.780 Probably to
00:21:38.380 Losing at
00:21:38.840 At least
00:21:39.140 Ten if
00:21:39.600 Not
00:21:39.740 Twenty
00:21:40.000 Percent
00:21:40.280 Of
00:21:40.400 Its
00:21:40.540 Land
00:21:40.900 Because
00:21:41.900 America
00:21:42.380 Provides
00:21:42.820 80 percent
00:21:43.400 Of the
00:21:43.640 Capital
00:21:44.000 And the
00:21:44.440 Weapons
00:21:44.800 That
00:21:45.060 Ukraine
00:21:45.380 Needs
00:21:45.720 And
00:21:45.980 Europe
00:21:46.280 Can't
00:21:46.660 Catch
00:21:46.900 Up
00:21:47.060 Nor 0.58
00:21:47.320 Does
00:21:47.480 It
00:21:47.580 Have
00:21:47.740 The
00:21:47.900 Capital
00:21:48.280 And
00:21:49.240 It's
00:21:49.400 Got
00:21:49.520 Russia
00:21:49.780 Right
00:21:50.000 Next
00:21:50.240 Door
00:21:50.560 Without
00:21:51.580 America
00:21:52.140 That
00:21:53.640 War
00:21:54.060 Is 0.88
00:21:54.760 But what
00:21:56.320 Of course
00:21:56.820 Will
00:21:57.660 There'll
00:21:57.920 Be an 0.94
00:21:58.160 Intifada
00:21:58.720 If you
00:21:59.000 Want to
00:21:59.200 Call it
00:21:59.520 In
00:21:59.760 Ukraine
00:22:00.280 And people
00:22:01.380 Will continue
00:22:02.140 To fight
00:22:03.180 The Russians 0.95
00:22:03.680 By sniping
00:22:04.440 Etc
00:22:04.740 So it'll
00:22:05.200 Be
00:22:05.320 Destabilized
00:22:06.400 You'll
00:22:06.740 Be in
00:22:06.920 Northern
00:22:07.160 Ireland
00:22:07.540 Yeah
00:22:07.920 No I've
00:22:08.320 Felt
00:22:08.480 The same
00:22:08.840 Thing
00:22:09.160 It's
00:22:09.420 Let
00:22:09.620 The
00:22:09.760 Ukrainians
00:22:10.900 Are not
00:22:11.220 Going to
00:22:11.480 Roll over
00:22:11.980 They're
00:22:12.200 Just
00:22:12.340 Going to 1.00
00:22:12.560 Kill 1.00
00:22:12.740 A lot 1.00
00:22:13.020 Of
00:22:13.140 Russian
00:22:13.480 Occupiers
00:22:14.200 That's
00:22:15.220 Exactly
00:22:15.620 Right
00:22:15.900 So
00:22:16.200 I said
00:22:17.120 Malik
00:22:17.360 I'm
00:22:17.540 Really
00:22:17.880 Sorry
00:22:18.340 And
00:22:18.700 Ukraine
00:22:19.180 Will
00:22:19.500 Be
00:22:19.780 Hobbled
00:22:20.400 By
00:22:20.700 Its
00:22:21.000 Debt
00:22:21.460 And
00:22:21.700 The
00:22:21.840 Carnage
00:22:22.200 I mean
00:22:22.420 You
00:22:22.840 Probably
00:22:23.040 Saw
00:22:23.320 Last
00:22:23.660 Night
00:22:23.940 Russia
00:22:25.080 Feels
00:22:26.100 Quite
00:22:26.840 Confident
00:22:27.440 They threw
00:22:29.100 200
00:22:29.740 Missiles and
00:22:30.740 Drones
00:22:30.960 Combined
00:22:31.580 And the
00:22:32.160 Largest
00:22:32.600 Assault
00:22:33.120 In
00:22:33.320 Over
00:22:33.600 A
00:22:33.800 Year
00:22:34.000 And
00:22:34.280 Nailed
00:22:34.580 Energy
00:22:35.300 Infrastructure
00:22:36.040 At
00:22:36.420 That
00:22:36.660 And
00:22:37.440 Nobody
00:22:38.100 Has
00:22:38.560 Said
00:22:38.760 A
00:22:38.880 Word
00:22:39.180 Yeah
00:22:40.320 And
00:22:41.220 Ukraine
00:22:41.480 Also
00:22:41.760 Has
00:22:41.900 Another
00:22:42.160 Problem
00:22:42.560 They
00:22:42.920 Can't
00:22:43.520 Find
00:22:43.800 Enough
00:22:44.040 Young
00:22:44.300 Men
00:22:44.520 And
00:22:44.680 Women 1.00
00:22:44.920 To
00:22:45.520 Go
00:22:45.740 And
00:22:46.100 Take
00:22:46.420 This
00:22:46.640 Fight
00:22:46.880 On
00:22:47.180 Because
00:22:48.320 It's
00:22:48.560 A
00:22:48.660 Slaughterhouse
00:22:49.360 I'm
00:22:49.840 Not
00:22:49.980 Sure
00:22:50.140 I
00:22:50.340 You know
00:22:51.200 Patriot
00:22:51.760 Or
00:22:51.860 Not
00:22:52.060 That's
00:22:52.320 A
00:22:52.440 Very
00:22:52.680 Tough
00:22:53.000 Battle
00:22:53.300 To
00:22:53.500 Join
00:22:53.720 So
00:22:54.400 I
00:22:54.780 Am
00:22:55.120 Savagely
00:22:56.680 Depressed
00:22:57.300 And
00:22:57.960 Just
00:22:59.400 Just
00:22:59.980 Stupefied
00:23:01.040 That
00:23:01.460 The
00:23:01.620 World
00:23:01.920 Did
00:23:02.240 Not
00:23:02.580 Give
00:23:02.840 Ukraine
00:23:03.300 The
00:23:03.500 Help
00:23:03.720 It
00:23:03.860 Needed
00:23:04.160 Immediately
00:23:04.840 And
00:23:05.940 We
00:23:06.100 Go
00:23:06.260 Back
00:23:06.500 To
00:23:06.660 It
00:23:06.840 I've
00:23:07.180 Sent it
00:23:07.460 On
00:23:07.580 This
00:23:07.700 Podcast
00:23:08.080 For
00:23:08.300 Two
00:23:08.460 Years
00:23:08.660 It
00:23:08.840 Looks
00:23:09.060 Like
00:23:09.200 A
00:23:09.340 Managed
00:23:09.740 War
00:23:09.980 To
00:23:10.100 Me
00:23:10.240 It
00:23:11.920 Is 0.88
00:23:13.000 A
00:23:13.140 Depressing
00:23:13.560 Time
00:23:14.060 But
00:23:14.620 I'm
00:23:15.440 In
00:23:15.560 The
00:23:15.680 Backyard
00:23:16.160 With
00:23:16.420 My
00:23:16.600 Puppy
00:23:16.980 So
00:23:17.440 You
00:23:17.940 Know
00:23:18.140 That's
00:23:18.580 What
00:23:18.700 I'm
00:23:18.860 Focused
00:23:19.200 On
00:23:19.500 I
00:23:19.660 Turned
00:23:19.900 On
00:23:20.080 CNN
00:23:20.400 And
00:23:20.680 The
00:23:20.800 New
00:23:20.880 York
00:23:21.040 Times
00:23:21.340 So
00:23:21.480 I'm
00:23:21.580 Just
00:23:21.740 Going
00:23:21.900 To
00:23:22.040 Focus
00:23:22.720 On
00:23:22.920 The
00:23:23.020 Puppy
00:23:23.320 But
00:23:24.020 Thank
00:23:24.320 You
00:23:24.640 Sir
00:23:25.360 As
00:23:25.760 Always
00:23:26.140 For
00:23:26.340 Your
00:23:26.500 Words
00:23:26.840 Of
00:23:27.100 Wisdom
00:23:27.560 And
00:23:28.700 You
00:23:29.920 Know
00:23:30.040 I
00:23:30.140 Hope
00:23:30.400 We're
00:23:31.600 Both
00:23:31.820 Wrong
00:23:32.100 I
00:23:32.320 Hope
00:23:32.460 Things
00:23:32.740 Get
00:23:32.960 Better
00:23:33.260 But
00:23:33.500 It
00:23:33.620 Doesn't
00:23:33.880 Feel
00:23:34.060 Like
00:23:34.200 They're
00:23:34.380 Going
00:23:34.520 To
00:23:34.620 Be
00:23:35.320 Better
00:23:35.580 Thank
00:23:36.400 You
00:23:36.540 Sir
00:23:36.740 Thank
00:23:38.260 You
00:23:38.500 Ico 0.96
00:23:38.840 Ico 0.96
00:24:00.140 Don't
00:24:01.980 Hate
00:24:02.260 Me
00:24:02.600 Because
00:24:03.420 I'm
00:24:03.820 Lazy
00:24:04.400 Animals
00:24:05.380 Take
00:24:06.040 Love
00:24:06.440 Street
00:24:06.760 Baby
00:24:07.300 Yes
00:24:08.040 I
00:24:08.320 Know
00:24:08.860 The
00:24:10.020 Wheels
00:24:10.400 Are
00:24:10.760 Turning
00:24:11.120 Slow
00:24:11.840 We
00:24:13.900 Will
00:24:14.200 Not
00:24:14.620 Begin
00:24:15.200 Another
00:24:16.280 City
00:24:16.920 Without
00:24:17.460 You
00:24:18.140 Rest
00:24:18.540 Assured
00:24:19.360 These
00:24:20.060 Aren't
00:24:20.400 Obligations
00:24:21.800 But
00:24:22.280 I
00:24:22.600 Want
00:24:23.020 To
00:24:23.400 Rub 0.88
00:24:26.020 My
00:24:26.340 Fingers
00:24:26.980 Through
00:24:27.400 Your
00:24:27.840 Magie
00:24:28.520 May
00:24:28.940 Your
00:24:29.260 Fingers
00:24:30.060 Surround
00:24:30.460 My
00:24:30.820 Belly
00:24:31.500 I
00:24:32.180 Have
00:24:32.420 Decided
00:24:33.040 The
00:24:33.340 Blind 0.95
00:24:33.680 Will
00:24:33.920 Be
00:24:34.120 Led
00:24:34.440 To
00:24:34.620 The
00:24:34.820 Fire
00:24:35.240 Tonight
00:24:35.960 In
00:24:41.220 The
00:24:41.500 Dark 0.57
00:24:41.980 We
00:24:42.220 Hear
00:24:42.700 The
00:24:43.040 Voices
00:24:43.760 Questioning
00:24:45.000 The
00:24:45.320 Finest
00:24:46.020 Choices
00:24:46.640 That
00:24:47.020 We
00:24:47.220 Have
00:24:47.580 Made
00:24:48.340 Through
00:24:49.520 Our
00:24:49.920 Estabate
00:24:51.400 And
00:24:53.120 Watch
00:24:53.500 Out
00:24:53.860 When
00:24:54.060 The
00:24:54.260 Train
00:24:54.640 Comes
00:24:54.960 Crashing
00:24:55.600 We
00:24:56.160 Then
00:24:56.440 Fire
00:24:56.900 The
00:24:57.220 Red
00:24:57.560 Black 0.64
00:24:57.880 Clashing
00:24:58.600 Are
00:24:59.220 Dead
00:25:00.280 It
00:25:01.180 Might
00:25:01.440 Not
00:25:01.760 Be
00:25:02.140 Enough
00:25:03.280 We
00:25:05.000 Will
00:25:05.280 Not
00:25:05.700 Begin
00:25:06.540 Another
00:25:07.340 Sin
00:25:08.040 Without
00:25:08.540 You
00:25:09.100 Rest
00:25:09.640 Assured
00:25:10.380 Each
00:25:11.140 On
00:25:11.440 Obligations
00:25:12.880 But
00:25:13.340 I
00:25:13.660 Want
00:25:14.080 To
00:25:14.500 Rub 0.88
00:25:17.100 My
00:25:17.400 Fingers
00:25:18.040 Through
00:25:18.500 Your
00:25:18.880 Page
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00:25:42.400 Political
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00:25:46.640 Welcome
00:25:46.940 to it on
00:25:47.560 the Sunday
00:25:47.880 edition of
00:25:48.540 CFRA Live
00:25:49.160 joining us for
00:25:49.680 our panel this
00:25:50.160 morning Warren
00:25:50.600 Kinsella he is a
00:25:51.460 strategist and
00:25:52.020 post media
00:25:52.440 columnist you can
00:25:53.140 hear his latest or
00:25:53.960 you can read his
00:25:54.560 latest in the
00:25:55.260 Toronto Sun this
00:25:56.040 morning Warren
00:25:56.560 good morning
00:25:57.100 good morning
00:25:58.240 Tasha
00:25:58.740 Carradine also
00:25:59.380 here political
00:26:00.020 columnist for the
00:26:00.740 National Post writer
00:26:01.480 for GZERO media
00:26:02.420 and an author
00:26:03.280 Tasha good
00:26:03.920 morning
00:26:04.200 good morning
00:26:05.480 so we're in the
00:26:06.240 midst of this
00:26:06.800 Canada post strike
00:26:07.680 that started on
00:26:08.500 Friday it's been
00:26:09.560 kind of the latest
00:26:10.220 in some labor
00:26:10.880 unrest we've seen
00:26:11.780 in federally
00:26:12.800 regulated industries
00:26:13.720 across the country
00:26:14.700 over the course of
00:26:15.340 the past couple of
00:26:16.000 years but I'm
00:26:16.480 wondering Warren
00:26:17.060 I know there has
00:26:18.420 been some impacts
00:26:19.040 here specifically
00:26:19.520 on businesses but
00:26:20.520 could there be as
00:26:21.400 as this goes on
00:26:22.640 could there be
00:26:23.020 some pressure
00:26:23.460 here to get
00:26:23.900 something done
00:26:24.420 on the liberal
00:26:24.960 government
00:26:25.300 I'm sure they're
00:26:26.760 experiencing pressure
00:26:27.780 already because it
00:26:29.240 will disproportionately
00:26:30.240 affect you know
00:26:32.320 small businesses
00:26:33.340 and and people who
00:26:35.000 rely upon income
00:26:36.880 supplements and
00:26:37.840 supports I know
00:26:39.420 they are delivering
00:26:40.280 you know OAS
00:26:41.240 checks and and
00:26:42.600 child benefit checks
00:26:43.840 so that's good
00:26:45.000 that's good on the
00:26:45.900 union that they're
00:26:46.860 they're doing that
00:26:47.900 but you know the
00:26:49.760 the dangerous
00:26:51.160 thing for McKinnon
00:26:52.320 here the minister
00:26:53.320 responsible is he
00:26:55.740 has ordered people
00:26:57.260 back to arbitration
00:26:58.780 ordered people back
00:26:59.800 to work in the
00:27:00.460 past and that's a
00:27:02.380 you know a tough
00:27:03.780 position because
00:27:04.720 their stated role
00:27:06.720 is well we let
00:27:07.840 bar you know
00:27:08.480 collective bargaining
00:27:09.220 work we're not
00:27:10.100 going to intervene
00:27:10.720 and they've
00:27:11.820 intervened a number
00:27:12.660 of times
00:27:13.260 so but you know
00:27:15.540 at the end of the
00:27:16.260 day the do Jane
00:27:17.740 Joe and Jane
00:27:18.400 front porch care
00:27:19.300 about that I
00:27:19.980 don't think so I
00:27:21.000 think they're gonna
00:27:21.640 you know by probably
00:27:23.620 the middle of this
00:27:24.460 coming week if this
00:27:25.560 thing isn't resolved
00:27:26.600 there's the demands
00:27:28.500 for intervention
00:27:29.600 are going to grow
00:27:30.240 grow a lot louder
00:27:31.340 and attached to
00:27:32.700 Warren's point it
00:27:33.320 would seem you know
00:27:34.020 the the average
00:27:34.900 public might turn
00:27:35.740 their score and if
00:27:36.420 they were upset to
00:27:37.200 Canada Post and not
00:27:38.280 the federal government
00:27:38.940 but do you think
00:27:39.520 there there will be
00:27:40.440 some political pressure
00:27:41.200 along with the
00:27:41.820 political situation
00:27:42.700 they find themselves
00:27:43.420 in to get something
00:27:44.460 done here as quickly
00:27:45.220 as possible
00:27:45.800 oh 100% look
00:27:47.980 the holidays are
00:27:49.120 coming Christmas is
00:27:50.140 coming and this is
00:27:51.620 the most busy time
00:27:52.860 for companies small
00:27:54.600 businesses in particular
00:27:55.500 shipping out stuff
00:27:56.580 to customers but it's
00:27:58.840 also the time people
00:27:59.620 need money in their
00:28:00.480 pocket to pay for
00:28:01.520 things for Christmas
00:28:02.640 and checks will be
00:28:04.960 delayed you know yes
00:28:06.820 some of the some of
00:28:07.800 the ones that Warren
00:28:08.900 mentioned are going
00:28:09.460 through but other
00:28:10.840 stuff that people are
00:28:11.700 expecting if they get
00:28:12.700 their pay in the mail
00:28:13.760 if they're a freelance
00:28:15.020 gig worker anything 0.96
00:28:16.080 that doesn't have
00:28:16.980 direct deposit and
00:28:17.940 yeah those still do
00:28:18.900 exist you won't be
00:28:21.120 getting your money and
00:28:22.880 businesses also sometimes
00:28:23.920 get checks they won't
00:28:24.800 be getting the money
00:28:25.720 for that they need to
00:28:27.020 pay their suppliers and
00:28:27.980 so it's a it's a chain
00:28:29.460 of bad things and when
00:28:31.600 you see that you're
00:28:32.300 going to get a lot of
00:28:33.180 people upset not just
00:28:34.260 small business small
00:28:35.060 business already asked
00:28:36.280 the CFIB has already
00:28:37.340 called on the government
00:28:38.280 to say like please
00:28:39.540 intervene do back to 0.77
00:28:40.900 work legislation the
00:28:42.300 challenge for the
00:28:42.840 liberals of course is
00:28:43.840 that they don't want to
00:28:44.460 be seen as anti-labor
00:28:45.560 that's why they hedged
00:28:46.640 on the previous strikes
00:28:47.640 they hedged on the CN
00:28:48.760 strike they you know
00:28:49.940 they decided not to
00:28:50.860 intervene for a while
00:28:51.780 because there was you
00:28:53.880 know the upside of it
00:28:54.860 is yeah you get things
00:28:55.700 moving again the
00:28:56.420 downside is the next
00:28:58.160 election the labor vote
00:28:59.780 is going to be even
00:29:00.780 more angry at you out
00:29:02.040 as they were before and
00:29:03.040 the conservatives are
00:29:04.260 making gains in that
00:29:05.400 area the NDP is is
00:29:07.260 held its own actually
00:29:08.580 in the Winnipeg
00:29:09.120 by-election that it
00:29:09.900 had so the liberals
00:29:11.100 are thinking hmm you
00:29:13.080 know rock hard place
00:29:14.060 where do we land I
00:29:15.440 think eventually they
00:29:16.120 will do something if
00:29:17.340 this drags on they'll
00:29:18.340 legislate them back to
00:29:19.180 arbitration binding
00:29:20.300 arbitration but I think
00:29:22.280 they're really reluctant
00:29:23.100 to do it and liberals
00:29:24.600 are running out of both
00:29:25.340 rocks and hard places I
00:29:26.560 think on a couple of
00:29:27.280 different issues but
00:29:28.200 another issue that came
00:29:29.800 up this week we heard
00:29:30.880 some audio earlier on
00:29:32.080 this morning Trump's
00:29:32.880 borders are here speaking
00:29:34.520 with Watertown TV
00:29:35.840 essentially calling
00:29:37.140 eastern Ontario in the
00:29:38.440 border here specifically
00:29:39.520 the Thousand Islands a
00:29:40.860 national security threat
00:29:42.300 so this is same the same
00:29:43.940 rhetoric we heard back
00:29:44.700 in 2016 about tightening
00:29:45.900 up the border being used
00:29:47.300 as leverage in this area
00:29:48.340 is this just the same
00:29:49.260 thing happening all over
00:29:50.160 again Warren or is there
00:29:51.120 very is there concerns at
00:29:53.240 the northern border for
00:29:54.020 the US there is a
00:29:56.060 concern and the you know
00:29:57.540 the the secretary the
00:30:00.160 cabinet secretary said
00:30:01.240 that is from New York
00:30:02.860 from that actually near
00:30:04.580 that part of New York
00:30:05.780 so he's much more
00:30:07.180 likely to be listened
00:30:08.440 to he's definitely
00:30:09.640 hardcore he's a former
00:30:12.020 head of ICE and so
00:30:14.400 he's got a lot more
00:30:15.200 credibility than the
00:30:16.320 Russian asset or the one 0.91
00:30:18.280 with a worm in their 0.99
00:30:19.200 brain or the one who 0.93
00:30:20.820 has been investigated for 0.99
00:30:22.120 sex with minors so he is 0.96
00:30:24.100 actually kind of credible 0.72
00:30:25.300 compared to the rest so
00:30:27.500 yeah this is as this
00:30:29.440 panel has talked about in
00:30:31.800 the past few days the
00:30:33.060 border is going to be an
00:30:34.340 issue with the United
00:30:35.820 States and and it's an
00:30:37.960 issue for us too because
00:30:39.140 if Trump goes ahead with
00:30:41.020 his crackdown on so-called
00:30:42.900 illegals I don't ever 1.00
00:30:44.460 think that human beings
00:30:45.460 are illegal it's going to
00:30:47.680 have implications for
00:30:48.780 people trying to get into
00:30:49.980 Canada so it's in our 0.98
00:30:52.280 interest both defensively
00:30:54.380 and offensively to deal
00:30:56.520 with it I just don't see a
00:30:58.700 whole lot of evidence that
00:30:59.880 the Trudeau guys know what
00:31:01.220 to do when or or how or
00:31:03.740 even even on when or how
00:31:05.440 Tasha but it also seems
00:31:06.560 like the Trudeau government
00:31:07.500 doesn't know how to
00:31:08.120 respond to this like I
00:31:09.180 said it's the same
00:31:10.080 rhetoric that we heard
00:31:10.720 back in 2016 but it does
00:31:12.500 feel like we don't know
00:31:13.240 what we're kind of doing
00:31:14.100 right now yeah I don't
00:31:15.860 even know about this border
00:31:16.720 crossing now everyone does
00:31:18.220 you know wait times going
00:31:21.260 up the problem with our
00:31:23.900 border is that it is mostly
00:31:26.160 undefended and it you know
00:31:27.800 there are crossings and
00:31:28.760 legal crossings is one
00:31:30.140 thing I mean that the the
00:31:32.660 safe third country
00:31:33.720 agreement that we have
00:31:34.620 with the U.S. now applies
00:31:35.660 to the entire border which
00:31:36.920 means you cannot cross by
00:31:39.220 land or water and claim
00:31:41.340 asylum you can't do that 1.00
00:31:43.060 you're not allowed to do
00:31:43.920 that before it was only at
00:31:45.040 certain points of entry
00:31:46.060 you weren't allowed to and
00:31:46.940 so people went to you know
00:31:48.120 the off-road places like
00:31:49.860 Roxham Road in Quebec but
00:31:52.340 now you're technically not
00:31:53.540 allowed to but there is a
00:31:54.840 loophole still in the law
00:31:55.940 because if you enter
00:31:57.620 Canada illegally other than
00:31:59.240 that a designated point of
00:32:00.340 entry and remain undiscovered
00:32:02.000 for 14 days you can claim
00:32:04.420 asylum so there's still a 0.98
00:32:06.520 little you know actually
00:32:07.640 pretty big loophole that's
00:32:09.340 sitting there that this
00:32:10.520 government has to talk to
00:32:11.620 the U.S. about and there are
00:32:13.040 groups that have actually
00:32:13.840 come out and said there's a
00:32:15.040 lawyers group in in the
00:32:17.120 state the cross-border
00:32:17.900 lawyers that have said flag
00:32:18.940 this and said you know
00:32:19.780 they've written to the
00:32:20.360 minister no response saying
00:32:22.000 what's going on like there
00:32:23.520 are ways and and also at
00:32:25.340 airports if you're coming
00:32:26.540 to Canada and you're not
00:32:28.220 you haven't been deported
00:32:30.160 from the U.S. we're just
00:32:31.120 coming in you can also claim
00:32:32.560 asylum at an airport so this
00:32:34.760 is what they mentioned about
00:32:35.500 flying in to this particular
00:32:37.000 location there are loopholes
00:32:39.140 still so but the thing is
00:32:40.400 it's an agreement right so
00:32:41.700 you've got to get the U.S. 0.86
00:32:42.760 on board to amend it you
00:32:43.980 can't unilaterally change it
00:32:45.480 so so he's got to start you
00:32:47.480 know making these moves now I
00:32:48.880 don't know why he doesn't
00:32:49.360 make them with the Biden
00:32:50.080 administration while it's
00:32:51.120 still there because the
00:32:52.540 Trump administration won't I
00:32:53.840 think really care if people
00:32:55.180 leave the country and go to 1.00
00:32:56.320 Canada they're like get out 0.95
00:32:57.400 right so so we've got to
00:32:59.460 deal with this before this
00:33:01.060 becomes a serious problem
00:33:02.160 and it's going to be very
00:33:03.640 soon I hear well and a good
00:33:05.840 point and we've been kind of
00:33:06.640 addressing this is the
00:33:07.600 situation right now but we
00:33:08.720 all know that could change
00:33:09.640 as well if we do see an
00:33:10.860 influx of people coming
00:33:11.840 north of the border another
00:33:13.720 irritant with the U.S. we've 0.94
00:33:15.080 talked about this specifically
00:33:16.340 has been a defense spending
00:33:17.960 getting up to that two percent
00:33:19.140 of GDP when it comes to I
00:33:21.760 guess this specific issue we
00:33:23.460 heard from another former
00:33:24.260 ambassador this week Derek
00:33:25.320 Bernie I believe it was
00:33:26.200 speaking out saying that
00:33:27.740 Canada has become irrelevant
00:33:28.920 in this space it's something
00:33:30.500 we've kind of batted around
00:33:31.360 here before Warren but are we
00:33:32.580 getting further and further
00:33:33.440 behind in terms of I don't
00:33:34.900 know our our ability to keep
00:33:36.660 up with the rest of the world
00:33:37.560 in terms of the military
00:33:38.500 yeah we we have talked about
00:33:41.280 it and yes we are far behind
00:33:43.960 in an increasingly more
00:33:46.640 dangerous world and you know
00:33:49.180 this is one of those rare
00:33:50.220 instances where Donald Trump
00:33:52.740 is actually right about
00:33:53.960 something saying that Canada
00:33:55.460 needs to meet its commitment
00:33:57.100 because no less than Barack
00:33:59.440 Obama came to Canada spoke in
00:34:02.460 the House of Commons before
00:34:04.380 Parliament and said the same
00:34:05.960 thing the Americans are of one 0.51
00:34:07.700 mind on this subject and you
00:34:11.560 know and it's not just Trudeau
00:34:12.920 who hasn't met the two percent
00:34:14.940 commitment Stephen Harper did
00:34:16.800 neither so you know I think we
00:34:20.040 have to accept whatever
00:34:21.420 government we've got in place
00:34:23.140 up here if the Americans are
00:34:25.280 serious about this they're not
00:34:26.800 going to let it go and that's
00:34:28.600 particularly the case when we
00:34:30.360 have you know the the bad guys
00:34:32.800 on the march you know North Korea
00:34:34.460 flying military drones all over
00:34:37.880 South Korea this weekend like bad
00:34:40.620 things are happening more and
00:34:42.300 more and it's in our interest it's
00:34:44.280 in our self-interest to listen to
00:34:46.740 whether it's Trump or Obama and do
00:34:49.180 this and you know I I don't think
00:34:52.180 the Trudeau guys particularly care
00:34:54.140 for their base
00:34:55.020 Polyev has said he's going to do it
00:34:58.340 I guess we got to hold his feet to
00:34:59.820 the fire if he becomes prime
00:35:01.260 minister and make sure that he
00:35:02.760 does it
00:35:03.360 and the plan right now for according
00:35:05.340 to liberals 2032 is what they're
00:35:07.100 putting the target at to get to
00:35:08.320 that two percent but but I'm
00:35:10.280 wondering as well Tasha just that
00:35:11.960 idea of getting to the two percent
00:35:13.420 regardless of who's in power right
00:35:15.460 now in the US you know we're
00:35:17.220 talking about the the Arctic
00:35:19.360 northern defense things like that
00:35:20.980 is it becoming very clear that
00:35:22.880 Canada needs to invest in its 0.87
00:35:24.060 military again irregardless of
00:35:25.500 what's going on with Trump do we
00:35:27.240 need to be investing and focusing
00:35:28.480 on our military
00:35:29.100 a hundred percent we we should have
00:35:31.660 been doing this you know a decade
00:35:33.760 ago two decades ago we should have
00:35:35.400 done more we didn't we haven't
00:35:37.800 because we are next to the
00:35:39.780 elephant you know maybe the mouse
00:35:41.420 sleeping next to the elephant
00:35:42.480 you know paraphrase Pierre Elliott
00:35:43.760 Trudeau and it gets uncomfortable
00:35:44.900 sometimes but the point is the
00:35:47.080 elephant protects you so there's a
00:35:49.000 sense I mean we have this moral
00:35:50.100 superiority in Canada you know we're
00:35:51.720 peacekeepers we're we're you know
00:35:53.780 we're not a militaristic jingoistic
00:35:55.640 nation like the US right well yeah
00:35:58.000 because we have the luxury of being
00:35:59.180 next to the US so we know they're
00:36:01.260 never going to let anything happen
00:36:02.620 to us we are their border
00:36:04.280 essentially so we've we've been you
00:36:08.020 know we've been slow on this we
00:36:10.040 have not bought the necessary
00:36:11.580 equipment replaced equipment for
00:36:12.940 our troops we are short about
00:36:14.800 16,000 troops at this point which
00:36:16.900 is terrible the processing time for
00:36:18.680 someone who applies to the military
00:36:20.380 is very long curiously you know
00:36:23.100 there are a lot of people actually
00:36:24.060 do apply but it takes forever to get
00:36:25.820 them in the system so this is
00:36:28.220 ridiculous we need to prioritize this 0.56
00:36:30.120 the problem is you prioritize this 0.97
00:36:32.560 what do you take it away from because
00:36:34.240 we don't have an elastic supply of
00:36:35.940 money in this country you know we are
00:36:37.680 actually in a very bad financial
00:36:39.120 situation so the government will have
00:36:40.880 to make cuts it will have to say
00:36:42.100 okay well you know we're not gonna
00:36:43.440 we're not gonna spend on dental care
00:36:44.880 we're gonna do this instead how will
00:36:46.860 that go over right the liberals have
00:36:48.720 no appetite for that so they've put
00:36:50.300 this deadline of 2032 when they know
00:36:52.180 they won't be in power anymore and
00:36:53.380 they don't care and I don't think
00:36:55.100 that will be acceptable to the
00:36:56.800 Americans I think they will demand 1.00
00:36:58.240 more and what we could do as a
00:37:00.480 negotiating point because we know
00:37:01.920 that there are tariffs coming down the
00:37:03.640 pipe all sorts of stuff is say hey
00:37:05.640 we're gonna spend more and we're
00:37:07.840 gonna give some contracts to some 0.86
00:37:09.080 American and military contractors
00:37:10.900 keep the tariffs off please there are
00:37:13.540 negotiating points we could use
00:37:15.060 actually and leverage military
00:37:16.320 spending for with the US to maybe
00:37:18.580 stave off real damage to our other
00:37:20.640 industries and I guess kind of
00:37:23.100 flipping a flipping our attention
00:37:24.840 just for a second back here on this
00:37:26.920 side of the border because I do want
00:37:27.860 to talk about cabinet picks on the
00:37:30.000 US side but just talk about our own
00:37:31.860 elections we've always expecting one
00:37:33.340 over the course of the next year but
00:37:34.600 chief electoral officer writing this
00:37:36.460 week that they want legislation
00:37:37.660 banning deep fakes online particularly
00:37:40.680 and particularly when it comes to the
00:37:44.280 likeness of candidates and the like so
00:37:46.280 I'm just wondering from your
00:37:47.720 perspective Warren this is one issue
00:37:49.160 that kind of falls into this
00:37:50.120 misinformation category if you're
00:37:51.900 watching what's been going on in the
00:37:53.060 UK they're obviously having a pretty
00:37:55.000 tough go with free speech and online
00:37:56.460 speech and and the light and the and
00:37:58.640 the the like just kind of wondering do
00:38:00.640 we need to get moving on issues like
00:38:02.480 this deep fakes misinformation on
00:38:04.460 social media because it is so
00:38:06.360 important to kind of democracy and
00:38:07.820 where we're kind of headed well we're
00:38:09.920 kind of the horses left the barn yeah
00:38:12.540 right there yeah just this weekend
00:38:16.020 again information evidence has come out
00:38:20.200 that Elon Musk altered the algorithm on
00:38:24.740 X during the presidential election to
00:38:28.900 suppress pro Kamala Harris posts and
00:38:33.580 enhance pro Donald Trump ones so you
00:38:37.260 know as long as we have a situation
00:38:39.760 where we've got these unaccountable
00:38:41.960 unelected billionaires doing whatever to
00:38:45.820 hell they want we're gonna have a bad 0.58
00:38:49.920 bad situation for truth and democracy and
00:38:53.420 and news and you know because Zuckerberg
00:38:56.560 and Musk and the others have shown that
00:38:59.300 they have absolutely zero interest in a
00:39:02.460 well-informed public it is not subject to
00:39:05.260 disinformation and misinformation so and
00:39:09.160 you know the deep fake stuff like you
00:39:11.200 know people probably hear about it a lot I
00:39:12.720 encourage people to just Google yeah using
00:39:16.360 another platform Jake Jake Tapper on CNN
00:39:21.260 Jake Tapper and CNN Tapper did something
00:39:23.820 that was really I thought it would have
00:39:25.960 gotten more attention they did on CNN a
00:39:30.040 deep fake of Jake Tapper which then
00:39:33.280 transitions to the real Jake Tapper and
00:39:36.620 I'm telling you guys you cannot tell the
00:39:39.260 difference between the fake and the real
00:39:41.900 thing like it was shocking how advanced the
00:39:45.720 technology has become so what that means
00:39:48.720 you know because I'm a war room guy is I
00:39:52.260 guarantee people listening you have seen
00:39:54.760 something in recent months that you thought
00:39:57.720 was real and is not it's been manipulated
00:40:00.960 you know in some bot farm somewhere to try
00:40:04.720 and change the way you think or suppress your
00:40:07.000 vote or what have you you've already
00:40:08.860 experienced deep fakes and the problem is
00:40:11.900 the Biden administration tried to in the
00:40:14.680 past year have an agreement in place where
00:40:18.440 you know there is some kind of acknowledgement
00:40:21.380 that what you're seeing is a deep fake a
00:40:23.640 watermark or what have you and I don't think
00:40:26.500 that has gone anywhere so like if we if we do
00:40:29.820 this we need to do it on a global scale because
00:40:32.340 this is a global problem whether it's AI or
00:40:35.720 deep fakes or so on the technology is galloping
00:40:39.300 ahead of where we are as a society and it's
00:40:43.340 going to be very harmful particularly when you 1.00
00:40:45.400 have a liar like Donald Trump as president 0.99
00:40:48.140 of the United States when I saw just your 0.97
00:40:50.380 point I saw you know a Harris concession
00:40:52.360 speech that had been redone from last week
00:40:54.040 and like you say you could not tell the
00:40:55.700 difference unless you knew ahead of time that
00:40:57.280 it was a deep fake just on that point but
00:41:00.120 Tasha you know Warren saying that the house
00:41:01.880 is kind of already under the bar and it's
00:41:03.040 kind of tough to deny that in many ways is
00:41:04.960 this something we we need to at least try
00:41:06.760 to get a handle on so we can have the you
00:41:08.640 know the best informed public that we
00:41:10.000 possibly can here well here's the thing
00:41:13.140 I agree with a lot of Warren said I mean
00:41:15.400 I think that it is right now that we're
00:41:18.500 awash in disinformation and video
00:41:21.260 disinformation is particularly difficult
00:41:24.460 because before we had a we have we've had
00:41:27.640 disinformation forever and we've had you
00:41:29.420 know newspaper barons who suppress the news
00:41:31.840 in their paper and reported only on the
00:41:33.900 other candidates or you know slanted the
00:41:36.120 coverage like this is in the UK in
00:41:38.360 particular you mentioned the UK earlier
00:41:39.720 you you know you've had this is nothing
00:41:42.260 new the Zuckerbergs and Musks it's their 0.72
00:41:44.220 platform right it's their platform they
00:41:46.280 it's not like this is a public interest
00:41:47.700 situation it's like owning a newspaper I
00:41:49.660 mean yes you're supposed to report the
00:41:51.640 truth and you may report the truth but
00:41:54.140 only certain parts of it are enhanced or
00:41:56.020 the headlines are certain way fine the
00:41:58.700 problem with deep fakes is that you're
00:42:00.960 reporting lies right you're spreading
00:42:02.680 absolute falsehoods and that's the
00:42:05.820 difficulty is who's going to be the body
00:42:07.820 that identifies these falsehoods that
00:42:09.540 calls them out that has any sanctions
00:42:11.540 there's there's no one who could do
00:42:13.820 that you know you can report to your
00:42:15.460 local broadcast standards council if it
00:42:17.680 covered the internet if it covered
00:42:19.940 social media I don't think it necessarily
00:42:22.320 does in most most countries the I mean
00:42:24.980 Europe has some very tough laws very
00:42:26.840 tough laws and fines that they've levied
00:42:29.680 against social media providers so
00:42:31.560 they're kind of ahead on this but it's
00:42:33.380 it is the horse is out it's like it's
00:42:35.220 gone down the end of the raceway you
00:42:36.920 can't even see the horse like you see
00:42:38.400 the horse's tail in the distance there
00:42:39.820 it's it's terrible so I think what it
00:42:43.220 comes down to a lot of it also is
00:42:45.120 education and teaching young people in
00:42:48.020 particular don't believe what you see
00:42:49.920 which is a weird thing right because
00:42:51.660 you're actually encouraging people to
00:42:53.300 question everything in their reality
00:42:55.280 but I know personally when I see a
00:42:57.440 video on especially if it's on a
00:42:58.860 platform like X it says you must watch
00:43:00.800 this or look at I think to myself is
00:43:03.380 that real like that's my first
00:43:04.660 reaction now is that true like and and
00:43:07.360 nine times out of ten my skepticism is
00:43:10.560 confirmed because somebody who's trying
00:43:12.160 to push you to see something so
00:43:13.660 violently and virulently they have an
00:43:15.860 agenda and it may be either cut a
00:43:18.200 certain way or it's totally fake like
00:43:19.920 you know I just like skip so people need
00:43:22.860 to develop a reflex too and that will
00:43:25.060 only come with education and people
00:43:27.140 understanding that a lot of what they
00:43:28.600 see may not actually be true it's very
00:43:31.120 good point and that balance between you
00:43:32.900 know healthy skepticism and just
00:43:34.480 completely kind of retreating into
00:43:35.820 conspiracy theories that we see online
00:43:37.720 is a tough balance as well just last
00:43:39.940 one this week well we've got a minute
00:43:41.360 or two here Warren you had kind of
00:43:43.220 mentioned this a couple of cabinet
00:43:44.680 picks this week specifically here but
00:43:46.480 are you surprised I guess by Trump's
00:43:48.620 cabinet picks being so I guess not so
00:43:51.300 they're vehemently loyalist of course but
00:43:53.480 these cabinet picks have had some major
00:43:56.020 issues they're gonna have some tough
00:43:57.180 time getting confirmed well I don't know
00:44:00.000 that you know he's got a mandate to do
00:44:03.000 this you know lots of people voted for
00:44:06.260 him and you know so if he moves ahead as 0.89
00:44:10.620 he's doing putting insane and and criminal
00:44:15.260 people in his in his cabinet I you know I
00:44:19.160 think he might just get away with it you
00:44:21.080 know Kennedy who's an anti-vaxxer and 0.96
00:44:23.700 says he has a worm in his brain and
00:44:25.980 Tulsi Gabbard who has been a supporter 0.99
00:44:28.680 of Syria's genocidal regime and is 0.74
00:44:33.420 incredibly accused of being a Russian
00:44:35.380 asset you got Matt Gaetz has been
00:44:37.640 investigated for you know legal drug use
00:44:40.360 sex with a minor peak headset for a
00:44:43.780 military command rule says he hasn't
00:44:46.120 washed his hands in a decade because he
00:44:48.720 doesn't believe germs exist and then you
00:44:50.940 got Musk you know after lots of a record
00:44:53.860 number of Jews voted for Trump Musk
00:44:57.100 secretly meeting with representatives of
00:45:00.100 the Ayatollahs in New York at Iran's
00:45:04.120 headquarters in New York and you know he
00:45:06.820 hasn't even received a security clearance
00:45:08.580 yet like it's madness what is taking place
00:45:11.280 and you know I know a lot of people in
00:45:13.920 Canada say oh well it's them it's not
00:45:15.480 gonna affect us it is gonna affect us
00:45:17.460 right it's gonna it is gonna affect us
00:45:19.900 these are really powerful positions
00:45:22.060 arguably more powerful than the Canadian
00:45:24.700 Prime Minister so buckle your seatbelts
00:45:27.020 folks it's gonna get bouncy and
00:45:28.860 obviously they'll be at the top of some
00:45:30.240 big issues for the U.S. as well Tasha
00:45:32.480 just your thoughts on some of the picks
00:45:33.720 that we're seeing this week
00:45:34.600 that sums it up that sums it up well
00:45:39.480 gallery literally you know all the stuff
00:45:42.900 that Warren just enumerated you know it's
00:45:46.560 shocking and you know people people say
00:45:49.920 well you know they're not elected
00:45:51.380 positions so they screw up like you can
00:45:53.100 you can get rid of somebody right but the
00:45:55.260 point is Trump's threshold for getting
00:45:59.400 rid of people I think it's basically only
00:46:02.280 if they're disloyal to him he doesn't
00:46:04.080 really care he doesn't care about their
00:46:05.960 their personal proclivities not at all and
00:46:09.280 I think also on the piece the dangerous
00:46:11.120 piece to me is is Tulsi Gabbard is the
00:46:13.460 national security issue is the sense that
00:46:16.600 you know who's really who's really going
00:46:19.220 to call the shots whose interests are
00:46:20.620 being protected here and I think Canada is
00:46:23.640 a rate to worry because for the comments
00:46:26.640 we made earlier too with our border we are
00:46:28.940 going to be seen as as you know less
00:46:31.780 friend than foe and that's one of the
00:46:34.600 first times I mean since the war of 1812
00:46:36.740 we were literally at blows with the US we
00:46:38.980 have traditionally been seen as a friend
00:46:40.740 but now you know we look at the friend
00:46:43.100 and the friend's a little unhinged what
00:46:44.460 do you do with this and the friend is
00:46:46.420 looking at us and going I don't know
00:46:47.700 about you it's it's really disturbing so I
00:46:51.520 think we're entering we're entering a
00:46:53.320 different age around the world the age of
00:46:56.740 oligarchs autocracy the US is no exception 1.00
00:46:59.720 and this style of government is this loyalty
00:47:03.180 litmus test which is what the one thing all
00:47:05.160 these people have in common is they are
00:47:06.620 loyal to Trump and that's what he said
00:47:08.560 right away that was going to be his sort
00:47:10.420 of his barometer for how he was going to
00:47:12.900 govern it's going to be throughout the
00:47:14.340 government though too it's not going to
00:47:15.480 stop at these folks this is this is the
00:47:17.360 end this is the tip of the iceberg or
00:47:19.920 whatever they're going to be purges of
00:47:22.220 people within organizations within the FBI
00:47:24.520 within the CIA within everywhere people
00:47:26.860 who are not loyal will be out and they're
00:47:29.220 actually checking in the government ways
00:47:32.140 to fire people without severance that's
00:47:35.120 right because if you basically restructure
00:47:37.220 if you restructure a department restructure
00:47:39.400 someone's job out of existence you may not
00:47:41.160 have to pay them severance I have this
00:47:43.160 information from someone who's working in
00:47:45.520 the US who's aware of this and I will not
00:47:47.660 say who they are but they just I was shocked
00:47:49.740 and they're like yep that's what they're
00:47:50.940 doing so gosh I'm not surprised but it is
00:47:56.500 very very disturbing yeah and we'll see over
00:47:58.500 the course we still got two months just to
00:48:00.000 get to the to inauguration day we'll see
00:48:01.820 what happens between now and then but
00:48:03.460 Tasha and Warren thanks so much for your
00:48:04.860 time this morning I very much appreciate
00:48:06.300 it thanks guys Warren can tell a
00:48:08.680 strategist and post media columnist you
00:48:10.180 can read his latest in the Toronto Sun
00:48:11.840 this morning Tasha Carrad and political 0.99
00:48:13.340 columnist for the National Post
00:48:14.520 there were times when we raised our fist to
00:48:29.340 the world waiting to crush our position
00:48:31.560 and there were times when we landed like
00:48:34.720 face in disguise but now remembering those
00:48:37.380 of two we never had a chance but we made our
00:48:41.460 plans to let it go apart we watched it all
00:48:46.320 crash around our feet and that it broke my
00:48:48.960 heart we took it day by day you never thought for
00:48:53.340 once those days would go to end I got what I wanted but
00:48:58.860 I think about it but I miss my own crime 0.98
00:49:03.180 accident or accusations I got my fucking reasons 0.97
00:49:08.460 and even hearts are broken all alone when they lost what they believe in 0.99
00:49:14.680 the world when it seems to come apart
00:49:21.680 then there's frustration with my consolation
00:49:27.480 I've fallen out of my face while I was in this race 1.00
00:49:35.800 doesn't stop me from trying yet I did my best at least but I can't
00:49:40.660 get no peace when I'm all in the shortest draw
00:49:43.660 we never had a chance but we made our plans so they were
00:49:48.160 brought apart we watched it all crash around our feet and that it broke my heart
00:49:55.660 took it day by day and never thought for once those days were gonna end
00:50:01.660 well I got what I wanted when I think about it but I miss my friend 0.73
00:50:08.660 accidents or accusations I got my fucking reasons and even hearts are broken all alone when they lost what they believe in 0.94
00:50:20.660 well 0.99
00:50:25.660 when the seams start to come apart
00:50:30.660 in this frustration we found our salvation
00:50:33.660 in this frustration we found our salvation
00:50:36.660 in this frustration we found our salvation
00:50:39.660 the 열심히 start
00:51:03.660 separate everyday little more from the biggest start
00:51:08.660 But I won't forget my part
00:51:15.660 In the end, what you want's most different than what you're just
00:51:19.660 Yes, bigger than me and you
00:51:23.660 It's bigger than me and
00:51:25.660 Than me and you
00:51:38.660 We're back with our great friend and our muse, Brian Lilly
00:51:45.900 And Brian, lots of religion this week
00:51:49.400 Or people professing to be concerned about religion
00:51:54.340 So Toronto City Council, which I understand the rest of the country
00:51:58.240 Doesn't always pay close attention to, understandably
00:52:02.180 Actually had a debate about Christianity this week
00:52:06.700 We've written about it in the Toronto Sun
00:52:09.480 Could you fill people in on what took place
00:52:11.900 And how nutty it became
00:52:14.180 Well, there was a motion to follow Mississauga's lead
00:52:18.920 And declare that December is Christian Heritage Month 0.97
00:52:21.900 And if you follow politics at all
00:52:25.620 You know that at the city, at the provincial, at the municipal level
00:52:29.780 Or at the federal level
00:52:30.980 You get all kinds of dates and months for various ethnic groups
00:52:34.020 Religious groups
00:52:34.800 And so the city of Toronto already recognizes
00:52:37.860 All kinds of other religions with
00:52:39.540 Their own Heritage Month or day or time
00:52:42.160 And there was a motion to
00:52:44.940 Do that for Christianity 1.00
00:52:46.680 Councilor Gord Perks 1.00
00:52:49.260 Can I call him the biggest asshole 1.00
00:52:52.880 On council on your podcast 1.00
00:52:55.260 Or would that get muted?
00:52:56.780 No, I think
00:52:57.540 You know, you're an accurate reporter
00:52:59.560 I think you have to be accurate
00:53:01.140 So yeah, no, I think 1.00
00:53:02.240 He is the biggest asshole on council 1.00
00:53:05.480 And he went on a tirade about how awful and evil Christianity was 1.00
00:53:11.740 And he admitted that there are other religions recognized in the exact same way 0.51
00:53:19.100 But he said it is completely different than Hindu Heritage Month
00:53:23.340 And then was comparing Christianity to white supremacists and Nazis 0.95
00:53:29.300 And saying here's all the evil things that Christians have done over the years in Canada 1.00
00:53:35.720 You know, if you want to do that
00:53:38.300 And just go through history
00:53:39.780 You can find awful things that have been done by adherence to every religion 1.00
00:53:45.880 Or by in the name of religion 0.95
00:53:49.200 But Perks was just like, no, Christianity is evil 0.99
00:53:53.340 It is, you know, he's one of those far lefty guys 0.96
00:53:59.920 Who hates what Canada is
00:54:01.860 You know, I understand everyone wants to make your country better
00:54:06.020 But most people, regardless of party
00:54:09.500 Don't hate the very existence of their country
00:54:13.120 Perks is one of those guys
00:54:15.400 And that clearly came out in his comments
00:54:20.080 Counselor Lily Chen
00:54:22.180 Yeah, talk about that
00:54:23.400 So how did it turn out?
00:54:24.700 Did the motion get defeated?
00:54:27.000 It did get passed, I believe
00:54:29.760 But Counselor Lily Chen, who represents North York
00:54:34.280 She ended up in tears
00:54:36.240 Standing up and saying like, look, Christianity saved my life 0.65
00:54:39.320 I was going through a really hard time with my mother
00:54:41.620 You know, her dealing with ALS
00:54:45.220 And some people showed me, you know
00:54:48.720 Joy and grace and compassion
00:54:52.060 And she became a Christian
00:54:54.920 So this is all happening, by the way
00:54:57.100 Late Thursday night
00:54:58.740 I completely missed it
00:55:01.720 When it did happen
00:55:03.980 So, you know, thankfully some good reporting on this
00:55:08.200 And we can see what it is
00:55:10.720 I'll be digging through the video
00:55:12.780 To just expose Gord Perks for what he is
00:55:16.380 He's an insufferable man
00:55:20.000 Absolutely insufferable
00:55:23.420 And he's not alone, regrettably
00:55:26.220 The United Church of Canada
00:55:27.820 Which, to me, has kind of
00:55:30.820 I'm going to get in trouble for this
00:55:32.220 Seized to be a church
00:55:34.580 And is more a left-wing lobby group
00:55:37.040 Actually issued a letter
00:55:39.040 Defending Francesca Albanese
00:55:43.120 The anti-Semitic UN representative for Palestine
00:55:48.360 Defending her right to free speech
00:55:52.120 And, you know, like it really
00:55:55.040 In this month of all months
00:55:56.480 This is the holiest month, you know
00:55:58.180 For all of the major religions
00:56:00.360 Or one of the holiest months
00:56:01.880 Like, it's just shameful
00:56:03.900 That this stuff is happening
00:56:05.800 Where certain religions are being regarded
00:56:09.360 As more equal than others
00:56:10.960 Like, how did that
00:56:12.680 You know, and you and I
00:56:13.900 Full disclosure
00:56:14.580 We're both church-going Catholics
00:56:16.260 And we believe in Christ
00:56:18.360 And we believe in God
00:56:19.420 And we believe in the church
00:56:21.020 We know they're not perfect
00:56:22.700 The church
00:56:23.280 But, like, how is this happen
00:56:25.620 Where it can be open season
00:56:27.760 In Canada on Jews 0.94
00:56:29.200 Or, you know, say terrible things
00:56:31.740 About Christianity
00:56:32.700 And there are people out there
00:56:34.480 Saying terrible things about Islam
00:56:36.000 I had somebody I was following
00:56:38.020 On social media last night
00:56:39.900 And said, called Islam 1.00
00:56:41.940 A disgusting religion 1.00
00:56:43.240 And I said, well, I think 0.99
00:56:44.480 You're talking about Islamism 1.00
00:56:46.180 You know, the Islamists 1.00
00:56:47.700 Which is a political movement
00:56:48.640 Not the religion 0.97
00:56:49.420 Like, there's just
00:56:50.840 It seems like there's no restraint
00:56:53.860 On people anymore
00:56:55.020 Like, how did that come about?
00:56:59.460 Well, as far as your comments
00:57:01.040 About the United Church
00:57:03.000 You can go back to 1998
00:57:06.620 And the
00:57:08.780 The
00:57:11.220 Moderator of the United Church
00:57:14.120 A guy named Bill Phipps
00:57:15.940 Was doing
00:57:16.860 An editorial board meeting
00:57:19.820 With the
00:57:20.360 Ottawa Citizen
00:57:21.920 And my friend John Robson
00:57:24.380 Was on the editorial board
00:57:25.760 At the time
00:57:26.260 And somebody said to him
00:57:28.580 Ask him if
00:57:29.640 The moderator believes
00:57:32.060 That Jesus is the Son of God
00:57:33.660 Which is a pretty central
00:57:35.440 Tenet of any Christianity 1.00
00:57:37.820 Any Christian denomination
00:57:39.520 And
00:57:41.000 John thought
00:57:42.720 Well, that's an odd question
00:57:43.840 To ask
00:57:44.320 The head of a church
00:57:46.320 Ask him
00:57:47.720 And so John asked him
00:57:49.020 And the guy said
00:57:49.920 I don't really know
00:57:50.760 We're still trying to figure that out
00:57:52.460 Are you kidding me?
00:57:54.340 No, that was 1998
00:57:56.380 In
00:57:57.160 In Toronto
00:57:58.500 There's
00:57:59.060 An atheist 1.00
00:58:01.780 United Church minister
00:58:03.220 An avowed atheist
00:58:05.060 Who is a minister
00:58:05.820 Wow
00:58:07.760 There are a lot of
00:58:10.060 Great people
00:58:12.060 Who are in
00:58:13.120 Or who have come from
00:58:14.240 The United Church
00:58:15.660 But a strange thing
00:58:16.660 Happened
00:58:17.140 Along the way
00:58:18.220 With this organization
00:58:19.320 And I know
00:58:19.840 I was married to a long time
00:58:21.920 For a woman
00:58:22.680 Who was raised
00:58:23.120 In the United Church
00:58:24.020 And I've been to a lot
00:58:26.460 Of United Churches 0.53
00:58:27.300 And some of them
00:58:28.460 You would see a lot of things
00:58:30.020 That look familiar
00:58:31.300 And feel familiar
00:58:32.040 And then other times
00:58:33.340 I've been in
00:58:34.100 Congregations
00:58:35.200 Where you're like
00:58:35.560 This is
00:58:36.340 The NDP
00:58:37.700 Sometimes a prayer
00:58:38.740 Sometimes just
00:58:39.460 The NDP
00:58:40.220 I remember going to
00:58:41.720 One service
00:58:42.260 Shortly after Jack Layton
00:58:43.440 Was
00:58:43.860 Elected leader
00:58:45.880 Of the NDP
00:58:46.500 And
00:58:48.360 That was the only
00:58:49.440 Prayer of intention
00:58:50.160 Was for the NDP
00:58:51.120 For Layton
00:58:52.080 That he had wisdom
00:58:53.320 And that he wins soon
00:58:54.440 And become prime minister
00:58:56.520 Wow
00:58:57.400 So
00:58:57.960 It is an incredibly
00:59:00.260 Political organization
00:59:01.620 More than others
00:59:02.420 And
00:59:03.640 They have long
00:59:05.420 Aligned themselves
00:59:06.200 With the NDP
00:59:06.960 Even though
00:59:07.560 Many of
00:59:08.560 Their adherents
00:59:09.680 Are now former adherents
00:59:10.760 Because they've been
00:59:11.400 Losing people
00:59:12.280 Like crazy
00:59:13.200 Have been
00:59:15.700 Far less political
00:59:16.760 Or
00:59:17.180 Differently aligned
00:59:18.840 And so
00:59:20.020 This letter
00:59:20.660 Supporting the
00:59:21.820 The UN special
00:59:22.720 Repertoire
00:59:23.320 Francesca Albanese
00:59:24.300 That does not
00:59:25.180 Shock me
00:59:25.740 In the least
00:59:26.540 It's a
00:59:28.500 United Church
00:59:30.080 Is just a
00:59:30.580 Political movement
00:59:31.200 With a clerical 0.95
00:59:31.900 Collar on
00:59:32.560 And
00:59:34.080 All the trappings
00:59:36.560 Of any
00:59:37.220 Far left movement
00:59:38.240 At this point
00:59:38.780 That's it
00:59:39.240 I was surprised
00:59:41.380 Let's continue
00:59:42.420 To talk about
00:59:43.020 Religion
00:59:43.400 Or something
00:59:43.980 Like religion 0.94
00:59:44.980 Justin Truro
00:59:46.480 Who was obviously
00:59:47.280 A desperate guy
00:59:48.340 Looking for some
00:59:49.200 Way to get
00:59:49.760 Traction
00:59:50.400 Announced
00:59:51.600 This week
00:59:52.400 That the
00:59:52.820 Federal government
00:59:53.600 Was going to
00:59:54.780 Help bail out
00:59:55.660 The Santa Claus
00:59:56.400 Parade
00:59:56.800 And I used to
00:59:57.380 Take my kids 0.97
00:59:58.000 To the Toronto
00:59:58.520 Santa Claus
00:59:59.320 Parade
00:59:59.700 Every single
01:00:01.040 Year
01:00:01.360 It happens
01:00:02.200 You know
01:00:02.720 Right around
01:00:03.180 This time
01:00:03.740 In November
01:00:04.360 It's gotten
01:00:05.420 Into financial
01:00:06.140 Difficulty
01:00:06.720 Like a lot
01:00:07.480 Of these
01:00:07.860 Festivals
01:00:08.520 And public
01:00:09.080 Events
01:00:09.440 And parades
01:00:10.140 And Trudeau
01:00:11.540 You know
01:00:12.480 Kind of
01:00:13.200 Threw off
01:00:13.960 The
01:00:14.360 His previous
01:00:15.560 Mantle
01:00:16.160 Of being
01:00:16.680 You know
01:00:17.340 Not terribly
01:00:19.320 Christian
01:00:19.820 And indicating
01:00:21.460 That he's
01:00:21.960 Prepared to
01:00:22.580 Bail them
01:00:23.040 Out
01:00:23.240 I was surprised
01:00:24.200 But is it
01:00:24.760 A good thing
01:00:25.360 Or a bad
01:00:25.900 Thing
01:00:26.120 Or is it
01:00:26.460 Just comical
01:00:27.120 Look I
01:00:30.120 Think the
01:00:30.820 Santa Claus
01:00:31.260 Parade
01:00:31.580 Is a good
01:00:32.020 Thing
01:00:32.340 I took
01:00:34.780 My kids
01:00:35.200 To the
01:00:35.480 One in
01:00:35.780 Ottawa
01:00:36.060 When they
01:00:36.760 Were young
01:00:37.160 I've seen
01:00:39.440 The one
01:00:39.760 In Toronto
01:00:40.120 It's
01:00:40.460 Quite large
01:00:41.320 It's good
01:00:41.780 But
01:00:42.580 You know
01:00:44.040 And I
01:00:44.640 Don't have
01:00:45.140 A philosophical
01:00:46.500 Problem with
01:00:47.280 Governments
01:00:48.160 Doing this
01:00:48.600 The corporate
01:00:49.680 Sport has
01:00:50.500 Just drifted
01:00:51.460 Off
01:00:51.980 Of course
01:00:52.420 I believe
01:00:53.140 The Toronto
01:00:53.560 Santa Claus
01:00:54.360 Parade
01:00:54.620 Was originally
01:00:55.200 Started
01:00:56.160 And paid
01:00:56.860 For
01:00:57.200 By Eatons
01:00:59.200 And they're
01:01:00.200 Long gone
01:01:00.740 And no
01:01:03.000 Other
01:01:03.700 Major retailer
01:01:05.560 Is doing
01:01:06.000 That
01:01:06.200 Santa Claus
01:01:07.260 Parade
01:01:07.520 Brought to 0.96
01:01:07.960 You by
01:01:08.180 Amazon
01:01:08.600 I don't
01:01:09.640 Know
01:01:09.880 Funny
01:01:11.220 Enough
01:01:11.480 I believe
01:01:12.200 The parade
01:01:13.060 Route
01:01:13.260 Will take
01:01:13.640 It right
01:01:13.920 By Indigo
01:01:14.640 At Bay
01:01:15.000 And Bloor
01:01:15.440 Which is
01:01:16.300 The site
01:01:16.820 Of a
01:01:17.540 Great
01:01:17.920 Many
01:01:18.200 Antis
01:01:18.960 Semitic 0.92
01:01:19.820 Anti-Zionist 0.92
01:01:20.680 Anti-Israel 0.64
01:01:21.440 Protests
01:01:22.080 And they've
01:01:22.760 Got a
01:01:23.080 Great
01:01:23.580 Poster in
01:01:24.820 Their window
01:01:25.240 Right now
01:01:25.800 For Christmas
01:01:27.580 Marketing
01:01:28.020 And it says
01:01:28.500 It's so good
01:01:29.740 Here
01:01:29.980 Even Santa
01:01:30.660 Shops here
01:01:31.320 With the photo
01:01:32.400 Of Santa
01:01:32.760 Going over
01:01:33.280 His list
01:01:33.760 I don't have
01:01:34.780 An issue
01:01:35.340 With this
01:01:36.420 Happening
01:01:36.900 But it's
01:01:38.660 Surprising
01:01:39.200 To me
01:01:39.600 That Trudeau
01:01:40.540 Is this
01:01:42.120 Desperate
01:01:42.900 And I think
01:01:43.300 He's jumped
01:01:43.680 In to do
01:01:44.180 This
01:01:44.460 Because he
01:01:45.500 Knows
01:01:45.880 How bad
01:01:46.940 A shape
01:01:47.280 He's in
01:01:47.640 Right now
01:01:48.120 And
01:01:48.520 The liberals
01:01:50.340 Won all
01:01:50.920 25 seats
01:01:51.840 In the last
01:01:52.380 Election
01:01:52.700 Of course
01:01:53.000 They expelled
01:01:53.640 One
01:01:54.080 In Kevin
01:01:54.840 Wong
01:01:55.280 So they
01:01:55.880 Hold 24
01:01:56.840 And 25
01:01:57.860 Seats
01:01:58.280 In Toronto
01:01:58.760 They're desperate
01:02:00.340 To hold on
01:02:00.940 To anything
01:02:01.500 The conservatives
01:02:03.440 Of course
01:02:03.900 Now hold
01:02:04.360 Toronto
01:02:04.660 St.
01:02:05.000 Paul's
01:02:05.460 And while
01:02:07.780 People thought
01:02:08.420 That was an anomaly
01:02:09.260 I think
01:02:09.920 I think
01:02:09.940 Don Stewart
01:02:10.440 Is going
01:02:10.760 To hold
01:02:11.180 It
01:02:11.400 Leslie
01:02:12.560 Church
01:02:12.900 Is out
01:02:13.220 There
01:02:13.360 Door
01:02:13.600 Knocking
01:02:13.900 Already
01:02:14.340 And campaigning
01:02:15.180 To try
01:02:15.560 And win
01:02:15.820 It back
01:02:16.140 To the
01:02:16.440 Liberals
01:02:16.820 I think
01:02:17.820 Don Stewart
01:02:18.380 Is going
01:02:18.680 To hold
01:02:19.020 It
01:02:19.240 And I
01:02:20.040 Think
01:02:20.180 There are
01:02:20.480 Many
01:02:20.960 Other
01:02:22.000 Ridings
01:02:23.540 In the
01:02:24.180 Toronto
01:02:24.440 Area
01:02:24.840 That will
01:02:26.160 Turn
01:02:27.180 Blue
01:02:27.560 And then
01:02:28.020 Others
01:02:28.480 Are going
01:02:29.640 To turn
01:02:30.220 NDP
01:02:31.280 Badly
01:02:32.500 The only
01:02:33.040 One
01:02:33.280 There was
01:02:33.500 One
01:02:33.700 Projection
01:02:34.240 Saying
01:02:34.580 The Liberals
01:02:35.920 Would be
01:02:36.260 Reduced
01:02:36.580 To one
01:02:36.940 Seat
01:02:37.220 In Toronto
01:02:37.620 And I
01:02:38.520 Think that
01:02:38.780 Was off
01:02:39.100 Of that
01:02:39.400 Abacus
01:02:39.920 Polling
01:02:40.380 And it
01:02:41.600 Showed
01:02:41.820 The NDP
01:02:42.240 Picking
01:02:42.660 Up a few
01:02:43.120 In the
01:02:43.340 Corps
01:02:43.560 The conservatives
01:02:44.420 Taking
01:02:44.800 Everything
01:02:45.280 On the
01:02:45.600 Outside
01:02:46.020 And one
01:02:46.880 Riding
01:02:47.220 Would remain
01:02:47.720 Liberal
01:02:48.000 And that's
01:02:48.400 The one
01:02:48.640 I'm sitting
01:02:49.140 In right
01:02:49.640 Now
01:02:49.980 Toronto
01:02:50.880 Centre
01:02:51.340 As I
01:02:52.000 Look out
01:02:52.420 Over the
01:02:53.140 Expans
01:02:54.300 Of all
01:02:54.600 The high
01:02:55.300 Rises
01:02:55.640 Here
01:02:55.940 From my
01:02:56.600 Window
01:02:56.860 Perch
01:02:57.320 Marcy
01:02:58.220 Ian
01:02:58.460 Would
01:02:58.740 Remain
01:02:59.180 The only
01:03:00.040 Liberal
01:03:00.760 MP
01:03:01.420 In
01:03:01.640 Toronto
01:03:01.960 And
01:03:02.740 You know
01:03:03.800 As we've
01:03:04.580 Recently heard
01:03:05.160 It's horrible
01:03:05.660 To have
01:03:06.160 Cabinet
01:03:07.120 Officials
01:03:07.940 Who've
01:03:08.200 Been
01:03:08.320 On TV
01:03:08.840 So
01:03:09.780 I wish
01:03:12.020 That she
01:03:12.340 Wouldn't
01:03:12.640 Be an 0.94
01:03:13.920 MP
01:03:14.200 Anymore
01:03:14.660 But at
01:03:15.160 Least
01:03:15.280 She won't
01:03:15.540 Be in
01:03:15.820 Cabinet
01:03:16.140 After the
01:03:16.680 Next election
01:03:17.220 Well she 0.97
01:03:17.860 May be
01:03:18.120 The only
01:03:18.420 One west
01:03:19.000 Of Quebec 0.53
01:03:19.420 Well let's
01:03:20.820 Talk about
01:03:21.200 Let's
01:03:21.480 Let's
01:03:21.980 Finish
01:03:22.280 With that
01:03:22.960 And I
01:03:24.160 Apologize
01:03:24.700 If you
01:03:24.920 Hear dogs
01:03:25.440 Panting
01:03:25.920 And stuff
01:03:26.260 I got
01:03:26.520 Puppies
01:03:27.040 And dogs
01:03:27.460 Running
01:03:27.740 In and
01:03:28.060 Out of
01:03:28.300 The room
01:03:28.700 You know
01:03:31.140 Trudeau
01:03:32.040 Is just
01:03:33.000 Looking for
01:03:33.800 Anything
01:03:34.800 To give
01:03:35.320 Himself
01:03:35.840 A lift
01:03:37.920 And
01:03:38.440 Understandably
01:03:39.240 So
01:03:39.500 He's a
01:03:39.900 Politician
01:03:40.540 He's always
01:03:41.180 Focused on
01:03:41.840 Increasing his
01:03:42.540 Popularity
01:03:43.260 And his
01:03:43.520 Electability
01:03:44.280 Canada
01:03:45.500 Post
01:03:45.980 Strike
01:03:46.360 You've
01:03:47.240 Got this
01:03:47.660 And you
01:03:48.320 And I
01:03:48.520 Say
01:03:48.700 Full
01:03:48.920 Disclosure
01:03:49.320 I've
01:03:49.680 Worked
01:03:50.160 For
01:03:50.520 Canada
01:03:50.840 Post
01:03:51.160 Management
01:03:51.640 I've
01:03:52.180 Represented
01:03:52.700 As a
01:03:53.100 Lawyer
01:03:53.420 Cup
01:03:54.100 W
01:03:54.440 Believe it
01:03:54.920 Or not
01:03:55.240 And
01:03:56.340 The union
01:03:57.520 I think
01:03:57.960 Has got a
01:03:58.400 Pretty
01:03:58.620 Unreasonable
01:03:59.320 Request
01:03:59.980 Of
01:04:00.220 22%
01:04:01.300 Increase
01:04:03.300 In what
01:04:03.760 They are
01:04:04.040 Paid
01:04:04.500 Over the
01:04:05.020 11%
01:04:05.760 The corporation
01:04:06.520 Is offering
01:04:07.160 Them
01:04:07.460 What is
01:04:08.380 What do
01:04:08.820 Trudeau
01:04:09.240 And the
01:04:09.640 Steve
01:04:09.880 McKinnon
01:04:10.400 Who is
01:04:10.760 The minister
01:04:11.320 Do
01:04:11.900 Do they
01:04:12.360 Legislate
01:04:12.960 Him back
01:04:13.260 To work
01:04:13.680 They force
01:04:14.200 Him into
01:04:14.520 Arbitration
01:04:15.120 As they've
01:04:15.640 Done
01:04:15.920 With some
01:04:16.900 Other
01:04:17.120 Labor
01:04:17.400 Disputes
01:04:18.000 Because
01:04:18.600 You know
01:04:19.220 A postal 0.58
01:04:20.160 Strike at
01:04:20.700 Christmas
01:04:21.000 Time
01:04:21.360 Not
01:04:21.820 Helpful
01:04:22.280 So
01:04:23.620 I'm of
01:04:26.280 The belief
01:04:26.700 That back
01:04:27.280 To work
01:04:27.580 Legislation
01:04:28.280 And declaring
01:04:29.380 People essential
01:04:30.040 Services
01:04:30.560 Is unconstitutional
01:04:31.940 Thanks to the 0.98
01:04:32.660 Ridiculous
01:04:33.160 2015 0.89
01:04:33.920 Supreme Court
01:04:35.040 Decision
01:04:35.500 Authored by
01:04:36.280 Rosalie
01:04:37.240 Which said
01:04:39.080 The time
01:04:40.480 Has come
01:04:40.900 To recognize
01:04:41.760 This charter
01:04:42.240 Right
01:04:42.480 She invented 0.76
01:04:43.060 It
01:04:43.500 You know
01:04:43.800 60 years
01:04:44.480 Jurisprudence
01:04:45.720 Said
01:04:46.040 There was
01:04:46.460 No
01:04:46.640 Charter
01:04:47.060 Right
01:04:47.280 To strike
01:04:47.740 I mean
01:04:48.840 That's
01:04:49.160 Both the
01:04:49.620 Charter
01:04:50.240 Era
01:04:50.500 And the
01:04:50.840 Pre-charter
01:04:51.320 Era
01:04:51.600 That was
01:04:52.440 The view
01:04:53.040 Of the
01:04:53.340 Court
01:04:53.580 In Canada
01:04:54.220 And she
01:04:55.500 Threw that
01:04:56.140 In there
01:04:56.420 And it's
01:04:56.740 Still working
01:04:57.320 Its way
01:04:57.620 Through
01:04:57.800 In fact
01:04:58.200 The last
01:04:58.880 Time
01:04:59.220 Canada
01:04:59.880 Post
01:05:00.240 Went on
01:05:00.780 Strike
01:05:01.060 They were
01:05:01.460 Legislated
01:05:02.040 Back to
01:05:02.440 Work
01:05:02.680 And that
01:05:03.280 Is being
01:05:03.820 Challenged
01:05:04.280 In the
01:05:04.560 Courts
01:05:04.860 And it's
01:05:05.080 Still working
01:05:05.540 Its way
01:05:05.940 Through
01:05:06.200 So I
01:05:07.520 Think that's
01:05:08.020 Why you're
01:05:08.340 Seeing
01:05:08.640 McKinnon
01:05:09.400 Go to
01:05:10.900 Arbitration
01:05:11.640 Which is
01:05:12.520 Kind of
01:05:12.720 A backdoor
01:05:13.540 Way of
01:05:13.920 Back to
01:05:14.260 Work
01:05:14.440 Legislation
01:05:15.160 Excuse me
01:05:16.780 He may
01:05:19.400 Have to
01:05:19.720 Do that
01:05:20.080 Look
01:05:20.340 A lot
01:05:21.500 Of us
01:05:22.280 Might think
01:05:22.820 That Canada
01:05:23.320 Post doesn't
01:05:23.880 Matter
01:05:24.180 But I saw
01:05:25.260 The CEO
01:05:25.680 Of Shopify
01:05:26.240 On Twitter
01:05:28.220 Saying look
01:05:29.340 67%
01:05:30.360 Of our
01:05:31.340 Clients
01:05:32.900 Are small
01:05:34.380 Businesses
01:05:35.080 Who ship
01:05:36.320 By Canada
01:05:36.960 Post
01:05:37.340 And Canada
01:05:38.240 Post has
01:05:38.800 Monopoly
01:05:39.340 On certain
01:05:40.280 Things such
01:05:41.060 As if you're
01:05:41.520 Delivering to
01:05:42.040 A rural
01:05:42.860 PO box
01:05:43.700 They're the
01:05:44.620 Only people
01:05:45.100 That can do
01:05:45.620 That
01:05:45.960 And so
01:05:47.240 It's going
01:05:48.000 To hurt
01:05:48.340 Them 0.80
01:05:48.660 And that
01:05:49.940 You know
01:05:50.880 You've got
01:05:51.200 Small businesses
01:05:51.940 That are relying
01:05:52.580 On that
01:05:52.960 But also
01:05:53.500 Charities
01:05:55.240 I was
01:05:56.260 Posting on
01:05:57.060 1010
01:05:57.720 And we were
01:05:58.080 Talking about
01:05:58.640 The Canada
01:05:59.660 Post strike
01:06:00.300 And I said
01:06:02.120 Does it matter
01:06:03.020 Anymore
01:06:03.480 And the woman 0.95
01:06:04.560 Called in
01:06:05.060 And said
01:06:05.320 I'm on the
01:06:05.720 Board of
01:06:06.100 The CNIB
01:06:06.720 And we do
01:06:07.740 A lot of
01:06:08.100 Direct mail
01:06:08.600 Fundraising
01:06:09.300 This time of
01:06:09.820 Year
01:06:10.000 That will
01:06:11.820 Be upended
01:06:12.900 As well
01:06:13.300 So you've
01:06:13.620 Got parcel
01:06:14.140 Delivery
01:06:14.560 You've got
01:06:16.300 Small businesses
01:06:17.240 Relying on
01:06:17.880 Payments
01:06:18.340 There's still
01:06:18.820 People paid
01:06:19.740 By check
01:06:20.260 And you've
01:06:22.000 Got charities
01:06:22.540 It's a really
01:06:24.260 Tough time
01:06:24.720 Year
01:06:24.900 And some
01:06:26.260 People still
01:06:26.820 Do send
01:06:27.280 Christmas cards
01:06:28.060 Yeah
01:06:28.820 Well I run
01:06:30.320 A small business
01:06:31.040 And you know
01:06:31.960 Some of our
01:06:32.600 Clients send us
01:06:34.040 Payment
01:06:34.760 You know
01:06:35.100 Via the mail
01:06:35.720 We send
01:06:36.240 Invoices that
01:06:36.980 Way
01:06:37.180 So
01:06:37.460 So what
01:06:38.400 Like what's
01:06:39.180 Your final
01:06:39.600 Prediction this
01:06:40.260 Week
01:06:40.460 Do you think
01:06:40.800 They'll make
01:06:41.220 A move on
01:06:41.700 It this
01:06:42.000 Week
01:06:42.280 Or
01:06:42.740 They're
01:06:42.940 Going to
01:06:43.140 Have to
01:06:43.540 Yeah
01:06:44.180 I don't
01:06:44.980 I don't
01:06:45.420 You know
01:06:45.840 I think that
01:06:46.940 They will feel
01:06:47.580 Enough pressure
01:06:48.260 It's not as
01:06:49.240 Much pressure
01:06:49.820 As the
01:06:50.660 The rail
01:06:51.820 Strikes
01:06:52.320 Or the
01:06:53.260 Ports
01:06:53.660 Shutting
01:06:54.040 Down
01:06:54.360 And that
01:06:55.180 That was
01:06:55.680 Would be
01:06:56.260 Absolutely
01:06:56.700 Crippling 1.00
01:06:57.160 That used
01:06:57.860 To be the
01:06:58.220 Case with
01:06:58.560 Canada
01:06:58.880 Post
01:06:59.200 But it's
01:06:59.580 Not anymore
01:07:00.160 Still
01:07:02.000 Still
01:07:02.280 It's still
01:07:02.780 Tough
01:07:03.140 But it's
01:07:04.600 Not the
01:07:04.920 Force it
01:07:05.300 Once was
01:07:05.680 And 22%
01:07:06.980 Give me
01:07:08.040 A break
01:07:08.540 Stats
01:07:09.900 Canada
01:07:10.260 For people
01:07:11.260 That you
01:07:11.840 Know
01:07:11.980 Are wonkish
01:07:12.800 Like me
01:07:13.340 Stats
01:07:14.000 Canada
01:07:14.380 Maintains
01:07:16.460 A
01:07:16.860 Monthly
01:07:18.200 Update
01:07:18.600 On
01:07:19.100 Collective
01:07:20.300 Agreements
01:07:20.800 Major
01:07:21.140 Collective
01:07:21.540 Agreements
01:07:22.020 Public
01:07:22.420 Sector
01:07:22.740 And private
01:07:23.180 Sector
01:07:23.500 And they
01:07:23.800 Separate
01:07:24.160 Them out
01:07:24.520 And you
01:07:25.120 Can go
01:07:25.440 On and
01:07:26.040 See
01:07:26.440 What the
01:07:27.420 Average
01:07:27.740 Is 0.88
01:07:28.020 And
01:07:29.500 And yes
01:07:30.000 Wage
01:07:30.380 Settlements 0.60
01:07:31.120 In
01:07:31.800 Collective
01:07:32.480 Agreements
01:07:33.000 Have been
01:07:33.720 Going up
01:07:34.260 Even
01:07:36.380 Unifor
01:07:36.860 Got
01:07:37.200 Post
01:07:38.580 Media
01:07:38.940 Small
01:07:39.340 Raise
01:07:39.660 Recently
01:07:40.120 But
01:07:40.920 Nobody's
01:07:42.240 Getting
01:07:42.520 That kind
01:07:43.960 Of
01:07:44.240 22%
01:07:46.480 That
01:07:46.880 Is 1.00
01:07:47.820 Ridiculous 0.99
01:07:48.800 And it's 0.99
01:07:49.820 Not in
01:07:50.140 Keeping
01:07:50.460 So they
01:07:51.280 May get
01:07:52.080 More than
01:07:52.460 11
01:07:52.860 From an
01:07:53.540 Arbitrator
01:07:54.020 But they
01:07:54.400 Will not
01:07:54.820 Get 22
01:07:55.520 Especially
01:07:56.880 From an
01:07:57.320 Employer
01:07:57.760 As you
01:07:58.020 Pointed out
01:07:58.440 To me
01:07:58.680 The other
01:07:59.000 Day
01:07:59.300 That's
01:08:00.020 Losing
01:08:00.320 Lots
01:08:00.640 Of
01:08:00.780 Money
01:08:01.000 They've
01:08:02.140 Lost
01:08:02.400 3
01:08:02.740 Billion
01:08:03.080 Over
01:08:03.260 The last
01:08:03.600 Several
01:08:03.840 Years
01:08:04.220 And
01:08:06.400 You know
01:08:07.580 The union
01:08:08.720 Wants to
01:08:09.220 Keep job
01:08:09.800 Security
01:08:10.240 And higher
01:08:11.340 Wages
01:08:11.900 For a
01:08:12.580 Service that
01:08:13.060 Fewer
01:08:13.380 People are
01:08:13.800 Using
01:08:14.220 That's
01:08:15.540 Not
01:08:15.920 Realistic
01:08:16.580 Not in
01:08:17.220 Any
01:08:17.560 Industry
01:08:17.960 No
01:08:18.780 No
01:08:19.340 For
01:08:19.540 Sure
01:08:19.760 Brian
01:08:20.880 The elite
01:08:21.240 Informed
01:08:22.200 And informative
01:08:23.260 And prescient
01:08:24.440 As always
01:08:25.520 Thank you so
01:08:27.180 Much
01:08:27.480 For
01:08:28.980 Your
01:08:29.660 Input
01:08:30.340 Have a
01:08:31.320 Great
01:08:31.520 Day
01:08:31.860 And have
01:08:32.960 A great
01:08:33.260 Week
01:08:33.580 Up
01:08:34.640 Up
01:08:34.680 In
01:08:34.900 I don't
01:08:43.440 I don't want to be the one who writes flame
01:08:46.920 I don't want to be the one who writes flame
01:08:59.020 I don't know her name
01:09:01.160 And I don't want to go where the seekers all go 1.00
01:09:06.200 I don't want to go
01:09:08.460 I don't want to go
01:09:08.480 You can feel anything you want to feel
01:09:13.980 You can feel anything you want to feel
01:09:17.700 In complete
01:09:18.940 But I don't want to be the one who writes flame
01:09:24.820 I don't want to be the one who writes flame
01:09:28.740 I can't complain though I'm wrapped up in chains
01:09:39.700 I can't complain
01:09:41.360 Everybody's got the right to be free
01:09:46.700 But that's not me
01:09:48.920 And you can feel anything you want to feel
01:09:54.520 You can feel anything you want to feel
01:09:58.200 You can feel anything you want to feel
01:10:01.940 And call it real
01:10:03.680 But I don't want to be the one who writes flame
01:10:09.080 I don't want to be the one who writes flame
01:10:28.200 I don't want to be the one who writes flame
01:10:30.700 I don't want to feel anything you want to feel
01:10:32.520 I don't want to feel anything you want to feel 1.00
01:10:33.940 Hit the flame, burn a hole in my brain 0.99
01:11:00.580 I'll never be the same 0.99
01:11:02.740 I try to take it slow, but she's pushing me to go
01:11:07.820 But I don't wanna go
01:11:10.060 And you can feel everything you wanna feel
01:11:15.540 You can feel everything you wanna feel
01:11:19.240 You can feel everything you wanna feel
01:11:22.980 And call it real
01:11:24.700 But I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:11:30.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:11:37.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:11:45.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:11:52.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:11:59.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:12:01.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:12:02.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:12:06.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:12:13.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame
01:12:15.160 I don't wanna be the one who drives flame