kinsellacast - KINSELLACAST 339： World goes to Hell in a handbasket - with Mraz, Batra, Belanger, Kheiriddin, plus Molly Payton, Slow Pulp, Hovvdy, Dehd

00:00:00.000 It's the Kinsella Cast, starring Warren Kinsella.

00:00:18.400 Hey, it's Warren. Welcome to the Kinsella Cast. Got a good one for you this week.

00:00:22.480 We've got Brian Lilley's on a cruise, like he's popping around beautiful locales in the Caribbean, so we're going to give him a break today.

00:00:35.300 We've got John Mraz, got my boss at Postmedia, Adrian Batra, and Alex Pearson.

00:00:42.820 We've got Tasha Carradine, Carl Belanger. Got some rock stars for you.

00:00:47.480 And I've got some rock and roll, kind of lo-fi stuff. I dig that.

00:00:52.260 As you guys probably know, when I've been in bands, I always say to the other guys,

00:00:57.540 Hey, let's do that guitar, Lubby Dubby, which is a very precise technical term,

00:01:02.640 which basically means kind of putting the bottom of your palm along the strings.

00:01:10.380 Anyway, it's Lubby Dubby.

00:01:12.560 So I've got some Lubby Dubby stuff for you. One of my favorite songs of all time by Molly Payton from Down Under, How to Have Fun.

00:01:21.000 I just love this song. Just the mood of it, and the melody, and her voice. It's just so perfect.

00:01:25.960 Slow Pulp, who I've played before at home.

00:01:31.240 I've got Havdi.

00:01:33.100 It looks like Howdy when you read their name, but then you go,

00:01:36.460 Oh, that's not a W. That's two V's. 0.96

00:01:40.240 And they go on about problems.

00:01:42.400 And then dead, another weird spelling.

00:01:45.400 There's a trend here.

00:01:47.080 Dead is D-E-H-D with dog days, which we're certainly living in these days.

00:01:53.340 On Google, the listing for the Adas Israel Synagogue in Melbourne, Australia, now says temporarily closed.

00:02:04.880 But that's not quite true, is it?

00:02:08.980 It's closed for good.

00:02:10.980 At 4.10 a.m. on Friday, the synagogue was set on fire while some Orthodox worshipers were still inside.

00:02:17.980 And they got out in time, thank God.

00:02:20.680 But the synagogue is now gone, effectively.

00:02:23.900 All that remains is some charred bits of wood and some religious texts, mainly reduced to nothingness.

00:02:31.100 And the synagogue was at the corner of Glen Ira Avenue and Oak Grove in Melbourne's Riponlia neighborhood.

00:02:41.020 Anyway, nice neighborhood by all accounts.

00:02:44.580 Pretty much everybody in politics did as they always do.

00:02:47.980 Thoughts and prayers.

00:02:49.800 And the police said predictable things, too.

00:02:51.840 But the two men who destroyed the synagogue, they were wearing masks.

00:02:56.320 Surprise, surprise.

00:02:57.760 What struck me, however, was something else.

00:03:00.940 How much that synagogue looks like other places of worship in so many other places.

00:03:08.280 Synagogue in Berlin.

00:03:10.280 The one in Armenia.

00:03:12.120 And the one in Vienna.

00:03:13.540 And the one in Rue in France.

00:03:15.380 And then the synagogues in Vancouver and Montreal and Toronto.

00:03:22.740 Like, they're all architecturally dissimilar.

00:03:25.660 But they have lots of tall fences and security cameras.

00:03:29.080 All of them.

00:03:30.020 And this is another way in which they are similar.

00:03:32.520 All of them have been firebombed or set on fire since October 7, 2023.

00:03:37.620 All of the ones that I just referred to.

00:03:42.140 And too many others.

00:03:44.800 And guess what?

00:03:45.800 You would have needed a magnifying glass to find a mention of the Melbourne synagogue fire in Canadian media the next day.

00:03:52.960 And as such, we have reached the point where actual news is no longer news.

00:03:59.500 That is, something that is disturbing has become less disturbing because it happens so often.

00:04:05.880 That's what we have observed with the attacks on Jews and Jewish places of worship in the 428 days since Hamas slaughtered 1,200 Jews in Israel on October 7.

00:04:17.880 Evil has become banal.

00:04:20.980 As Hannah Arendt said.

00:04:23.100 Like, why?

00:04:23.740 Why has it become so difficult to rouse people from their slumber when places dedicated to love are being set ablaze?

00:04:34.100 Like, in the cases I refer to, literally.

00:04:36.980 Like, why?

00:04:38.900 The reasons, I think, are multiple.

00:04:42.160 Partly it's the age in which we live, which is the digital age.

00:04:45.380 We receive so much information via the palm-sized computers in our pockets now that we just tune it all out.

00:04:52.260 Like, it's data smog, as American writer David Schenck memorably called it.

00:04:57.840 So we don't pay attention like we used to.

00:04:59.880 Like, kittens on Facebook profiles have become way more compelling to people.

00:05:03.840 And Zuckerberg, of course, knew that first, cravenly, which is why he removed news from his platform.

00:05:11.020 That's one possibility.

00:05:13.020 Another is we become desensitized to horror and cruelty.

00:05:17.060 Again, because of the blue screens we all peer down at every single day, every single hour.

00:05:23.460 We see so much blood and destruction these days, we become immune to it.

00:05:29.080 Our capacity for outrage and empathy has been reduced to somewhere near zero.

00:05:35.180 Or less than zero.

00:05:36.020 The main reason, however, I think, is this.

00:05:41.080 It's the Jews. 1.00

00:05:43.040 This is how it's always been for them.

00:05:44.920 This is how it always will be.

00:05:46.240 Pass the cranberries.

00:05:47.160 It's their fight.

00:05:47.860 It's not mine.

00:05:49.040 And also said, less often, but never far from the surface with the Jew haters,

00:05:54.240 oh, they kind of bring it on themselves, don't they? 0.91

00:05:56.920 They're so clannish. 1.00

00:05:58.400 They're always picking fights.

00:06:00.300 And so on.

00:06:01.960 You've heard it all.

00:06:03.020 Maybe at your own kitchen table.

00:06:04.640 Well, in other words, it's anti-Semitism.

00:06:08.480 That's why so many people now can hear about the place of worship being reduced to cinders,

00:06:14.240 a place where people were inside, praying, at the moment when they were most vulnerable.

00:06:20.820 And kind of, you know, shrug.

00:06:23.080 It's anti-Semitism, whether it's the variety we see in our streets,

00:06:26.640 or the variety found in private club drawing rooms.

00:06:29.580 It's all the same.

00:06:30.380 But make no mistake, fellow citizens, on this Sunday, this is not, not, not just some Jewish thing.

00:06:41.480 On the same day the Melbourne Synagogue was set ablaze,

00:06:45.320 hundreds of masked pro-Hamas types marched to Columbia University to stop the annual lighting of a Christmas tree.

00:06:54.460 Joy is cancelled, one of their signs read. 1.00

00:06:59.600 And that is the truest thing that these fuckers have ever said. 1.00

00:07:04.060 Remember this. 1.00

00:07:05.720 They come for the Saturday people first, 0.99

00:07:08.820 but then they always, always come for the Sunday people.

00:07:13.760 Wake up.

00:07:15.200 Your house is on fire. 1.00

00:07:16.940 Oh, fuck, not again. 1.00

00:07:41.040 Every time that I feel this way, good things get right. 1.00

00:07:47.420 You step on the storm, baby, we should just be friends as you kiss my neck.

00:07:55.000 We're trying on a couple people just to get it right.

00:07:59.680 You fit me a little too tight.

00:08:03.340 Beautiful boy, you're living on lines.

00:08:07.180 Things happen in a second, got you feeling right.

00:08:11.520 You're the kind of guy that my mama would hate. 1.00

00:08:15.500 Oh, you're kind of crazy. 1.00

00:08:17.300 You're always on one thing or another. 0.93

00:08:20.820 You're so cool, baby.

00:08:23.480 Do you really know how to have fun?

00:08:26.920 We're always talking about how we don't have anything to talk about. 1.00

00:08:49.860 Maybe it's that shit that we put in our brains 1.00

00:08:53.500 The way back when it's so romantic 1.00

00:08:57.640 But the kids in the 60s all did the same

00:09:01.540 We're all trying on a couple people to get it right

00:09:05.780 You fit me a little too tight

00:09:09.140 Beautiful boy, you're living on lines

00:09:13.340 And heaven in a second gets you feeling right

00:09:17.320 How do we know when we've got it good?

00:09:21.360 How do we know where to leave when we shouldn't?

00:09:25.900 Yesterday calls, you've got nothing to say

00:09:29.540 You're a beautiful boy, you're feeling okay

00:09:33.680 You're the kind of guy that I'm all with 0.96

00:09:37.700 Hey, do you kind of crazy? 0.63

00:09:40.060 You always don't want a thing or another

00:09:43.180 And you're so cool, baby

00:09:46.180 Do you really know how to have fun?

00:09:49.720 Oh, you look out and get out of the wood

00:09:54.000 And all you've got is crazy

00:09:56.600 You always don't want a thing or another

00:09:59.760 And you're so cool, baby

00:10:02.180 Baby, do you really know how to have fun?

00:10:12.800 Do you really know how to have fun?

00:10:16.460 Do you really know how to have fun?

00:10:29.100 Do you really know how to have fun?

00:10:37.840 Do you really know how to have fun?

00:10:41.280 And we're back, we're back with John Mraz

00:10:44.540 And John, the world seems like a jumbled mess

00:10:48.220 Even more than usual

00:10:49.440 I guess it's, let's go through them

00:10:53.420 We'll start with Syria, obviously 0.53

00:10:55.220 Because that's the top story around the world 0.87

00:10:57.420 So, Assad, the monster of Damascus 0.87

00:11:01.460 Is gone, presumed in Russia

00:11:03.980 And a group

00:11:06.960 One group in particular

00:11:09.000 Has taken over Syria 0.98

00:11:10.560 That had its beginnings in Al-Qaeda

00:11:13.000 Can you tell us

00:11:14.540 Is this good news or bad news?

00:11:17.020 I don't know

00:11:17.660 I don't know

00:11:18.360 I mean, we were all very excited

00:11:20.340 As you might recall

00:11:21.620 In 2011, during the Arab Spring

00:11:23.820 When Egypt 0.67

00:11:25.480 And more importantly

00:11:27.480 Libya threw off the shackles

00:11:29.300 Of their respective dictators

00:11:30.800 Didn't work out that well

00:11:32.300 Libya is still a mess 1.00

00:11:33.920 Still enduring a horrific civil war

00:11:37.240 That nobody seems to pay any attention to

00:11:39.220 So, I mean, the good news is

00:11:41.640 That the Assad regime 0.95

00:11:43.380 That were facilitating arms deliveries

00:11:46.120 To Hezbollah and Hamas 1.00

00:11:48.020 That were Iran's proxy in a way 0.98

00:11:50.180 Have been deconstructed

00:11:53.300 And by the way

00:11:54.280 You said Assad's in Russia

00:11:55.560 And no one's really sure where Assad is

00:11:57.940 The rumor this morning

00:12:00.060 Is that he's in Iran

00:12:01.040 Which would make absolute sense

00:12:02.580 Because he's been

00:12:03.360 He's been their ally

00:12:04.540 For a very long time

00:12:05.620 There are six or seven rebel factions

00:12:09.200 That took the country over

00:12:10.500 Much quicker than anybody expected

00:12:12.380 With a bit of help from the Turks 1.00

00:12:13.820 At the beginning

00:12:14.480 The largest group

00:12:16.260 The HTS

00:12:17.800 As they're known

00:12:18.640 Was led by a guy called

00:12:20.140 Mohammed al-Ghulani

00:12:21.260 Who still has a $10 million bounty out on him

00:12:23.860 By the United States

00:12:24.940 Because he was a leader of

00:12:26.360 First of all

00:12:27.800 An al-Qaeda group

00:12:28.700 And then the al-Nusraq front 0.85

00:12:30.220 Both radical Islamic terror groups

00:12:33.060 In Syria

00:12:34.220 That are probably considered

00:12:36.620 To be as dangerous

00:12:38.500 And prone to evil

00:12:40.360 As the Assad regime was itself 0.81

00:12:42.360 But there are six other groups there

00:12:45.120 And Jelani was 0.97

00:12:46.580 In Damascus

00:12:48.280 Praying on the ground

00:12:49.260 And speaking to people

00:12:50.280 Sounding like an absolute moderate

00:12:52.120 Telling his people 1.00

00:12:53.820 To stay away from public institutions

00:12:55.780 Working with the prime minister

00:12:57.860 That worked with Assad 0.85

00:12:58.940 To hand over

00:13:00.360 State functions

00:13:02.680 So that there's not a complete disruption

00:13:04.900 To Syrian lives 1.00

00:13:05.900 So

00:13:06.780 No one knows

00:13:08.900 No one knows yet

00:13:10.100 What will happen

00:13:11.060 But we do know

00:13:12.060 That the land bridge

00:13:13.800 That Iran enjoyed 1.00

00:13:14.840 To supply Hezbollah 1.00

00:13:16.060 And Hamas 0.83

00:13:16.740 Is gone

00:13:17.860 We do know

00:13:18.940 That there are U.S. troops

00:13:20.020 Still in the southeast

00:13:20.780 All right

00:13:21.080 Well let me stop you there

00:13:22.340 So let's talk about that

00:13:23.640 So what does

00:13:26.000 The departure

00:13:27.820 Of Assad 0.93

00:13:29.680 Mean

00:13:30.140 For Russia 0.67

00:13:31.640 And what does it mean

00:13:33.200 For Iran 0.97

00:13:33.860 If you can do them

00:13:34.640 In that order

00:13:35.240 For Russia 0.67

00:13:36.800 It's a problem

00:13:37.980 Russia had a lot 0.97

00:13:39.600 Of material

00:13:40.820 Military assets

00:13:41.960 In Syria

00:13:43.180 It was

00:13:43.860 Its greatest proxy

00:13:46.280 And presence

00:13:47.240 In the Middle East

00:13:48.680 Which also allowed it

00:13:50.100 To execute

00:13:51.560 Its operations

00:13:52.500 In Africa

00:13:53.160 Those airfields

00:13:54.380 Allowed

00:13:54.960 Planes to land

00:13:56.460 In Syria

00:13:57.040 Refuel

00:13:57.860 Reequip

00:13:58.780 And then move in

00:13:59.800 On a variety of countries

00:14:00.880 Where Russia

00:14:02.160 Tries to

00:14:03.140 Or is

00:14:03.740 Exacting influence

00:14:04.980 In Russian conflicts

00:14:06.300 So

00:14:07.520 It is now

00:14:08.880 Without a functional

00:14:10.240 Port

00:14:10.820 In the Mediterranean

00:14:11.800 It's moved

00:14:12.460 All of its naval assets

00:14:13.720 Out of the Syrian port

00:14:14.920 That it enjoyed

00:14:15.820 And TARDIS

00:14:17.980 That's just a

00:14:19.660 Brief

00:14:20.300 Piece of the coastline

00:14:22.360 For listeners

00:14:23.040 On the Mediterranean

00:14:24.380 Where Russia

00:14:24.900 Had a warm water port

00:14:25.840 In the Middle East

00:14:26.340 That's gone for them now

00:14:27.660 Iran

00:14:28.360 Iran on Friday

00:14:29.520 Started to move people out

00:14:30.820 All of their people out 1.00

00:14:32.220 Yeah

00:14:32.720 What does the loss of Syria

00:14:34.840 Or their influence in Syria

00:14:36.180 Mean for them

00:14:36.840 Well

00:14:38.180 This is the last piece

00:14:40.060 Of the

00:14:40.700 Three-legged stool

00:14:42.300 Iran

00:14:42.860 Exacted influence

00:14:44.220 Obviously

00:14:45.080 On the West Bank

00:14:47.140 In Gaza

00:14:47.760 And they have lost

00:14:49.340 Their influence there

00:14:50.340 They had

00:14:50.800 Exacted influence

00:14:51.860 In Hezbollah

00:14:52.660 Because they had Syria 1.00

00:14:53.860 As a land bridge

00:14:54.920 In Lebanon

00:14:55.600 They've lost their influence there

00:14:57.300 It's going to be very difficult

00:14:58.400 To resupply

00:14:59.220 Hezbollah now

00:15:00.520 For Iran 0.97

00:15:01.020 And they've lost their influence

00:15:02.740 In Syria

00:15:03.360 Those three legs

00:15:05.540 Of that stool

00:15:06.000 Allowed them to surround Israel 1.00

00:15:07.340 Their mortal enemy

00:15:08.280 Their declared moral enemy

00:15:09.620 They are now isolated

00:15:11.360 From all of that

00:15:12.580 And significantly

00:15:15.400 And substantially weakened

00:15:16.720 If there is any good news

00:15:18.340 Out of what's going on

00:15:19.560 In Syria right now

00:15:20.520 It is for sure

00:15:21.680 That Iran is greatly diminished 1.00

00:15:23.680 In its regional power

00:15:24.800 Hear, hear

00:15:25.400 It is good news indeed

00:15:26.940 Okay

00:15:27.260 Well let's talk about

00:15:28.220 Two other places

00:15:29.020 That people would be

00:15:30.020 Less familiar with

00:15:31.380 Maybe

00:15:31.760 Maybe you could even

00:15:33.020 Tell them where

00:15:33.640 They are located

00:15:34.440 Which is Romania 0.64

00:15:35.360 And Georgia

00:15:36.600 Both of those countries

00:15:38.880 Didn't receive as much headlines

00:15:42.040 But certainly

00:15:43.180 Have been

00:15:44.060 You know

00:15:44.740 Seen a lot of chaos

00:15:45.760 A lot of

00:15:46.600 Heat

00:15:48.020 In the past few days

00:15:49.200 What is happening

00:15:50.340 In those two countries

00:15:51.720 Well let's start

00:15:52.780 With Romania 0.95

00:15:53.420 Romania is right 0.95

00:15:54.840 In the middle

00:15:55.280 Of that central European 0.92

00:15:57.120 Eastern European corridor

00:15:58.000 Corridor

00:15:58.700 Romania

00:15:59.680 Recently had an election

00:16:01.060 Ostensibly a guy

00:16:02.380 Who came out of nowhere

00:16:03.360 A nationalist

00:16:04.020 With Russian support

00:16:05.240 Won an election

00:16:06.140 And it has been decided

00:16:07.940 That that election

00:16:08.800 Was fraudulently won

00:16:10.280 When the Romanian 0.95

00:16:11.380 Courts and people

00:16:12.480 Have overthrown the results

00:16:14.280 Decried Russian influence

00:16:16.960 Because it's impossible

00:16:18.940 To believe

00:16:19.540 That the Romanian people

00:16:20.620 Would like to get

00:16:21.400 Right back under

00:16:22.500 The hobnail boot

00:16:23.760 Of the Russian empire 0.57

00:16:24.800 And so it didn't

00:16:25.800 Make any sense

00:16:26.640 So Romania 0.69

00:16:27.900 Have demonstrated

00:16:31.020 To us

00:16:31.460 That Russian influence 0.99

00:16:32.500 Can be effective

00:16:33.820 We should be paying 0.74

00:16:34.900 Attention here

00:16:35.700 In Canada

00:16:36.240 Mr. Polly

00:16:37.020 Mr. Trudeau

00:16:38.100 Right

00:16:38.840 That they do

00:16:41.000 Deliberately exact

00:16:42.220 Influence on foreign

00:16:43.180 Elections

00:16:43.660 And that influence

00:16:44.900 Has been rejected

00:16:45.840 I think that's a good

00:16:46.760 News story

00:16:47.380 They'll have another

00:16:48.060 Election

00:16:48.500 And it'll be one

00:16:49.560 That'll be audited

00:16:50.280 Both by Romanians

00:16:51.700 And internationally

00:16:52.640 To make sure

00:16:54.040 There's no such

00:16:55.080 Further Russian influence 0.72

00:16:56.760 And then

00:16:57.520 Georgia

00:16:57.660 And then you move

00:16:59.300 To Georgia

00:16:59.840 Georgia

00:17:00.340 If you actually

00:17:01.180 There's that old joke

00:17:02.180 That if you were

00:17:03.340 To dig a hole here

00:17:04.500 You'd end up in China 0.98

00:17:05.420 If you dig a hole

00:17:06.400 Out of Toronto

00:17:07.240 You end up in Georgia

00:17:09.040 It's the exact

00:17:10.080 Opposite side of the world

00:17:11.300 It's one of the four

00:17:12.160 Countries of the Caucasus 0.66

00:17:13.700 Where Caucasians come from 0.96

00:17:16.080 The birthplace of wine

00:17:17.200 I was in Tbilisi

00:17:18.080 Working in election

00:17:18.960 Back in the late 2010s

00:17:21.240 And Tbilisi

00:17:23.360 Is a gorgeous city

00:17:24.740 Right on the Silk Road

00:17:25.840 Now

00:17:26.840 Georgia has 0.91

00:17:28.960 A storied history

00:17:30.080 With Russia 1.00

00:17:30.620 Stalin 0.57

00:17:31.160 Came from Georgia

00:17:32.800 And

00:17:34.600 Putin's mother 0.60

00:17:35.600 Came from Georgia

00:17:36.600 And has

00:17:37.820 For a very long time

00:17:39.500 Been

00:17:40.080 Part of

00:17:41.260 Either the Russian 0.98

00:17:42.180 Empire

00:17:42.820 Tsarist 0.97

00:17:43.420 Or then the Soviet Union 0.79

00:17:44.660 It was considered

00:17:45.360 An asset

00:17:45.880 And a necessary one

00:17:47.160 But I've been to Georgia

00:17:48.600 And Georgians 0.96

00:17:49.640 Really don't like

00:17:50.860 Russians

00:17:51.300 And there's been

00:17:52.660 A slow simmering war

00:17:53.880 Two provinces

00:17:54.760 In Georgia

00:17:55.400 Have been held

00:17:56.100 By Russia

00:17:57.080 For a very long time

00:17:58.180 Once again

00:17:59.440 The Russians 0.95

00:17:59.900 Intervered

00:18:00.860 In the election

00:18:01.740 There

00:18:02.080 And a Russian 0.79

00:18:03.880 Proxy government

00:18:04.740 Emerged

00:18:05.500 Who then said

00:18:06.220 We are going to

00:18:07.140 Put off

00:18:07.680 Even discussions

00:18:08.540 About

00:18:09.120 Discussing

00:18:10.640 Joining the EU 0.51

00:18:11.420 Which is a bit

00:18:12.200 Of a weird thing

00:18:12.780 To do anyway

00:18:13.320 They're nowhere

00:18:13.800 Near Europe

00:18:14.640 Or NATO

00:18:15.580 Which ultimately

00:18:16.480 Georgia would like 0.98

00:18:17.420 Until

00:18:20.120 2026

00:18:21.460 I think they said

00:18:22.300 The Georgians 0.93

00:18:23.420 Were having none of it

00:18:24.520 And what you have

00:18:25.500 Is another

00:18:26.200 Sort of like

00:18:26.820 2004

00:18:27.580 Orange revolution

00:18:28.820 On their Maidan

00:18:29.880 The central square

00:18:31.040 Of Tbilisi

00:18:31.820 Is gorgeous

00:18:32.600 Overlooking the river

00:18:33.680 There

00:18:33.940 And they've gone

00:18:36.060 To the streets

00:18:36.680 And you have

00:18:37.700 What is the beginning

00:18:38.480 Of what looks like

00:18:39.200 A civil war

00:18:40.000 That looks a lot

00:18:40.800 Like what happened

00:18:41.840 In Ukraine

00:18:42.800 In 2004

00:18:43.660 And we know

00:18:44.200 What that led to

00:18:45.020 Ultimately today

00:18:45.820 Yeah

00:18:46.280 Well let's end

00:18:47.720 With that

00:18:48.320 Excellent summary

00:18:49.540 On all of

00:18:50.940 Those different

00:18:52.440 Centres of activity

00:18:54.460 Vladimir Zelensky

00:18:56.860 Flew

00:18:57.980 To Paris

00:18:59.240 This week

00:19:00.120 To attend

00:19:01.080 The opening

00:19:01.620 Of Notre Dame

00:19:02.600 Basilica

00:19:04.420 And

00:19:05.260 It looks beautiful

00:19:07.080 By all accounts

00:19:07.900 I was there

00:19:08.360 Just before the place

00:19:09.140 Was set on fire

00:19:09.760 But I didn't do it

00:19:10.740 And

00:19:11.680 Why was Zelensky

00:19:13.720 I mean Zelensky

00:19:15.200 Is Jewish

00:19:15.620 Why was he at

00:19:16.580 This

00:19:16.880 Catholic church

00:19:18.600 This week

00:19:19.720 Well first of all

00:19:21.140 I'd like to say

00:19:21.760 You and I

00:19:22.380 Rarely get to see

00:19:23.440 A piece of good news

00:19:24.520 And as you know

00:19:25.360 I'm a non-believer

00:19:26.500 Although I

00:19:27.360 Respect

00:19:28.080 Anybody's right

00:19:29.280 To practice

00:19:29.780 A peaceful faith

00:19:30.620 In my midst

00:19:31.320 When I saw

00:19:32.740 The pictures

00:19:33.360 Of Notre Dame

00:19:34.640 I want to go

00:19:35.500 Myself

00:19:36.040 What a

00:19:36.660 Magnificent

00:19:37.620 Restoration

00:19:38.300 Sublime

00:19:39.020 Put a smile

00:19:39.700 On my face

00:19:40.300 Brought joy

00:19:40.900 To my heart

00:19:41.440 And so

00:19:42.640 You could argue

00:19:43.280 That every

00:19:44.080 European leader

00:19:45.000 Would want to be there

00:19:45.760 But who did he

00:19:46.460 Really want to be around

00:19:47.660 He wanted a meeting

00:19:49.160 With Donald Trump

00:19:50.020 Who for whatever reason

00:19:51.100 Has been fixated

00:19:52.120 And interested

00:19:53.820 In the rebuild

00:19:54.760 Of Notre Dame

00:19:55.520 Maybe the

00:19:56.040 Real estate developer

00:19:57.240 Part of him

00:19:57.960 Still exists

00:19:59.460 In some form

00:20:00.260 Or another

00:20:00.740 So he was there

00:20:02.060 Very much there

00:20:02.880 Looking like

00:20:03.580 By the way

00:20:04.040 The president

00:20:04.560 Of the United States

00:20:05.220 And I'll get to that

00:20:05.900 In a second 0.78

00:20:06.360 This gives Zelensky

00:20:07.800 An opportunity

00:20:08.920 For a sidebar

00:20:10.660 Conversation

00:20:11.480 With Trump

00:20:11.940 And we saw

00:20:13.080 Two photos

00:20:13.780 Of them

00:20:14.200 Shaking hands

00:20:15.600 At different points

00:20:16.480 I don't know

00:20:17.140 If they got to

00:20:17.720 Speak offline

00:20:18.420 I do know

00:20:19.420 Macron was

00:20:20.680 Facilitating that

00:20:22.100 Seemed very eager

00:20:23.880 As well

00:20:24.380 To cozy up

00:20:25.260 To Trump

00:20:25.700 Because Macron's

00:20:26.800 You know

00:20:28.020 Tenure in France

00:20:29.320 And his holds

00:20:30.020 And grasp

00:20:30.640 On power in France

00:20:31.620 Is tenuous

00:20:32.320 At best

00:20:32.880 At this point

00:20:33.540 And it's also

00:20:34.300 A fairly rested state

00:20:35.700 His prime minister

00:20:36.620 Got fired this week

00:20:37.680 That's another one

00:20:38.580 That's correct

00:20:39.580 That's correct

00:20:40.160 So interesting

00:20:41.860 What I would say

00:20:42.960 To Pierre Polievre

00:20:44.100 And Donald Trump

00:20:45.560 Is while neither

00:20:46.540 Of you are actually

00:20:47.660 Prime minister

00:20:48.480 Or president yet

00:20:49.760 You

00:20:50.400 Certainly

00:20:51.440 Trump is behaving

00:20:52.560 As if he is

00:20:53.560 The acting president

00:20:54.680 The awkward

00:20:55.620 Temporal frame

00:20:57.240 That the United States

00:20:58.160 Gives

00:20:58.700 It's president-elect

00:21:00.060 And several months

00:21:01.160 Of not being president

00:21:02.320 But everybody knows

00:21:03.180 You're going to be president

00:21:04.140 So it's you

00:21:04.880 We got to talk to

00:21:06.020 Has allowed Trump

00:21:07.260 To really look like

00:21:08.620 You know

00:21:10.140 The commander-in-chief

00:21:11.840 Of the United States

00:21:12.820 And Pierre Polievre

00:21:14.340 If he's had any

00:21:15.060 Common sense

00:21:15.680 Would have been

00:21:16.100 In Notre Dame

00:21:16.780 As well

00:21:17.200 Because Canadians

00:21:19.060 Are fully expecting

00:21:20.300 Him to be our

00:21:20.960 Next prime minister

00:21:21.760 Justin Trudeau

00:21:22.680 Is already

00:21:23.960 A memory

00:21:25.400 For many

00:21:26.060 I see

00:21:27.360 Absolutely no

00:21:28.400 I mean

00:21:29.220 I still get in arguments

00:21:30.220 With people who say

00:21:31.160 Yeah but when people

00:21:32.680 See what Trump's

00:21:33.440 Going to do

00:21:33.820 They're going to look

00:21:34.520 And they're going

00:21:34.920 To bring Trudeau back

00:21:35.780 And I don't believe

00:21:36.560 A word of it

00:21:37.220 I think they're going

00:21:38.440 To give Pierre Polievre

00:21:39.260 A chance

00:21:39.840 And I think they figure

00:21:40.940 Pierre has a

00:21:41.820 Better chance

00:21:42.400 Of talking with Trump

00:21:43.540 Pierre I don't know

00:21:45.040 Why you weren't

00:21:45.540 At Notre Dame

00:21:46.260 Because you had

00:21:47.760 Nowhere else to be

00:21:48.640 Yeah well

00:21:50.360 It's

00:21:51.100 You're right

00:21:52.460 And I think I'm wrong

00:21:53.420 Because I thought

00:21:54.220 That Trudeau would get

00:21:55.200 Some kind of a bump

00:21:56.160 Out of Trump

00:21:57.420 To sound like

00:21:58.520 Jesse Jackson

00:21:59.260 And in fact

00:22:00.380 The reverse happened

00:22:01.360 The gap

00:22:01.920 If you believe

00:22:02.560 Abacus

00:22:03.140 Is 23 points

00:22:04.460 This week

00:22:05.040 Yeah

00:22:05.440 So no

00:22:06.280 No impact

00:22:07.280 To the

00:22:07.700 The Donald Trump

00:22:08.520 Arrival just yet

00:22:09.520 But John

00:22:10.440 Rez

00:22:11.060 One impact

00:22:12.460 Is you've enlarged

00:22:13.280 All of our brains

00:22:14.080 Listening to you

00:22:14.980 Talk about all these

00:22:16.220 Different hot spots

00:22:17.260 Across Asia

00:22:18.520 And Europe

00:22:19.300 And the Middle East

00:22:20.360 We are all better

00:22:22.320 Informed than we were

00:22:23.760 Just 12

00:22:24.680 12 minutes ago

00:22:25.780 So thank you sir

00:22:27.120 Oh pasha

00:22:28.680 But Ico Ico 0.95

00:22:29.680 We are all better

00:22:59.680 Why can't we feel the same

00:23:20.540 I know we'll never try again

00:23:26.440 It's not that it couldn't change

00:23:34.980 Is it worth it to pretend

00:23:40.040 I thought it should be easy

00:23:59.580 Remember how we used to be

00:24:05.900 Expectations

00:24:10.200 Let me away

00:24:12.720 Now I wonder

00:24:15.720 If I should have changed

00:24:20.140 Should I try

00:24:34.080 All over again

00:24:36.680 To try

00:24:40.680 All over again

00:24:43.960 Should I try

00:24:47.260 All over again

00:24:50.500 To try

00:24:53.820 All over again

00:24:57.340 Should I try

00:25:12.880 All over again

00:25:16.880 This is CFRA Live

00:25:42.360 Sunday Political Panel

00:25:44.120 And welcome to it

00:25:48.080 Lots to talk about

00:25:48.920 On this Sunday morning

00:25:50.060 Carl Belanger

00:25:50.720 Is the president

00:25:51.420 At Traction Strategies

00:25:52.500 He joins us this morning

00:25:53.480 On the phone

00:25:54.140 Carl good morning

00:25:54.920 Morning Andrew

00:25:56.180 Warren Kinsella

00:25:56.960 Is a strategist

00:25:57.680 And post media columnist

00:25:58.640 You can read his latest

00:25:59.420 In the Toronto Sun

00:26:00.380 Good morning Warren

00:26:01.020 Morning guys

00:26:02.180 And Tasha Carradine

00:26:03.100 Is here as well

00:26:03.840 Author

00:26:04.180 Political columnist

00:26:04.920 For the National Post

00:26:05.640 A writer for GZERO Media

00:26:07.060 Tasha good morning

00:26:08.280 Good morning

00:26:09.620 So a couple of

00:26:10.520 Fascinating stories

00:26:11.200 Here just in the past

00:26:11.980 24 hours

00:26:12.620 But first

00:26:13.140 Obviously

00:26:13.660 One of the top stories

00:26:14.900 This weekend

00:26:15.500 The Syrian government

00:26:16.480 Has fallen

00:26:17.260 Just happening

00:26:18.020 Over the course

00:26:18.860 Of the past 12 hours

00:26:19.840 Really

00:26:20.080 So the Assad's 1.00

00:26:20.920 Family's 50 year

00:26:21.900 Iron rule 0.98

00:26:22.640 Has ended

00:26:23.680 A rebel offensive

00:26:24.620 Has taken down

00:26:25.200 The government

00:26:25.560 So big news

00:26:27.220 In terms of

00:26:27.740 Changing the course

00:26:28.580 Of a kind of

00:26:29.200 History in the Middle East

00:26:30.100 And concerns

00:26:31.060 About instability

00:26:32.000 Right now

00:26:32.660 I don't think

00:26:33.480 Anybody's going

00:26:33.960 To be very sympathetic

00:26:34.700 Towards Bashar al-Assad

00:26:36.220 Warren I'll start

00:26:36.920 With you

00:26:37.200 I don't think

00:26:37.780 There's going to be

00:26:38.140 A lot of sympathy

00:26:38.740 But this does

00:26:39.340 Obviously raise

00:26:39.960 Some concerns

00:26:40.460 About stability

00:26:41.160 In the Middle East

00:26:41.800 At a time

00:26:42.280 When it's

00:26:42.640 Probably not

00:26:43.440 Welcome

00:26:43.900 Exactly

00:26:45.140 And this reminds

00:26:46.500 Of my

00:26:47.780 Yasser Arafat rule 0.63

00:26:50.280 Which is

00:26:50.960 Be careful

00:26:51.540 Wishing for

00:26:52.200 Regime change

00:26:53.080 Because the next

00:26:54.160 Guy may be worse 1.00

00:26:55.240 The organization

00:26:57.500 The main organization

00:26:58.760 That took over

00:26:59.880 Syria

00:27:00.760 Basically in the

00:27:01.700 Past 12 hours

00:27:02.700 As you point out

00:27:03.980 Is an al-Qaeda

00:27:06.060 Adjacent group

00:27:08.080 That has been

00:27:09.480 Designated as a

00:27:10.780 Terrorist entity

00:27:11.740 By the United

00:27:12.540 States and

00:27:13.120 Canada

00:27:13.540 And has engaged

00:27:15.500 In serial

00:27:16.260 Human rights

00:27:16.960 Abuses

00:27:17.560 We haven't got

00:27:18.740 Any reports

00:27:19.460 Of that

00:27:20.000 Just yet

00:27:20.860 Happening in

00:27:21.840 Syria

00:27:22.180 Thank God

00:27:22.900 But you know

00:27:24.600 I would imagine

00:27:25.460 Israel

00:27:26.820 Along with many

00:27:28.220 Others

00:27:28.640 Are going to

00:27:29.360 Have some

00:27:29.680 Strong opinions

00:27:30.540 About an al-Qaeda 0.90

00:27:31.960 Related group

00:27:33.020 Taking power

00:27:34.540 In Syria

00:27:35.380 And the other

00:27:35.860 Thing that I'm

00:27:36.480 Concerned about

00:27:37.400 Because I'm

00:27:38.060 Sure everybody

00:27:38.600 Remembers

00:27:39.220 Al-Assad was

00:27:40.500 The butcher 0.84

00:27:41.040 And he 0.74

00:27:42.680 Killed thousands

00:27:44.260 And thousands 0.85

00:27:45.000 Of Muslims

00:27:45.960 Receiving no

00:27:46.920 Protests by the

00:27:47.700 Way from any

00:27:48.300 Student encampments

00:27:49.720 Anywhere in Canada

00:27:50.820 And he used

00:27:52.560 Chemical weapons

00:27:53.420 Against his own

00:27:54.260 People

00:27:54.700 Those chemical

00:27:55.800 Weapons are

00:27:56.400 Now in the

00:27:56.940 Hands of this

00:27:57.740 Al-Qaeda

00:27:58.320 Related group

00:27:59.300 And that's

00:28:00.120 Something that's

00:28:00.660 Got to worry

00:28:01.140 Everybody

00:28:01.580 So you know

00:28:02.800 Does Canada

00:28:03.440 Play in this

00:28:04.420 This dramatic

00:28:06.120 Change

00:28:06.560 I don't think

00:28:07.220 So

00:28:07.560 Donald Trump

00:28:08.760 Issued a

00:28:09.680 Tweet last

00:28:11.280 Night saying

00:28:11.900 We're not

00:28:12.280 Going to get

00:28:12.660 Involved

00:28:13.360 And I think

00:28:14.120 People need

00:28:14.600 To get used

00:28:15.140 To that

00:28:15.600 For the next

00:28:16.060 Four years

00:28:16.660 The United

00:28:17.120 States of

00:28:17.580 America

00:28:17.900 Is just

00:28:18.240 Going to

00:28:18.500 Step back

00:28:19.140 From a lot

00:28:20.000 Of these

00:28:20.300 International

00:28:20.880 Conflicks

00:28:21.660 And let

00:28:23.020 The locals

00:28:23.800 Sort it out

00:28:24.460 And that

00:28:24.840 Might not be

00:28:25.420 A good thing

00:28:26.640 Either

00:28:26.920 And Tasha

00:28:28.920 Obviously

00:28:29.420 As we've been

00:28:30.120 Kind of

00:28:30.360 Referencing here

00:28:31.100 The Israel 0.94

00:28:31.820 War is 0.74

00:28:32.300 On going

00:28:32.660 In Gaza

00:28:33.140 There's a

00:28:33.760 Ceasefire

00:28:34.140 In Lebanon

00:28:34.660 So just

00:28:35.160 The region

00:28:35.860 As a whole

00:28:36.380 Is somewhat

00:28:36.680 Unstable

00:28:37.160 Right now

00:28:38.320 But as

00:28:39.000 Warren was

00:28:39.360 Alluding to

00:28:40.040 Is this

00:28:40.320 A situation

00:28:40.880 Where it's

00:28:41.660 Almost better

00:28:42.120 To be with

00:28:42.480 The devil

00:28:42.780 You know

00:28:43.140 Rather than

00:28:43.680 The devil

00:28:44.000 You don't

00:28:44.440 Know

00:28:44.660 Well we'll

00:28:47.340 Wait and see

00:28:47.980 It is a

00:28:49.800 You know

00:28:50.400 There's no

00:28:50.740 Good side

00:28:51.700 In this war

00:28:52.240 And this is

00:28:53.140 Partly why

00:28:53.600 The United

00:28:53.960 States is

00:28:54.580 Not taking

00:28:55.520 A position

00:28:55.940 I mean

00:28:56.300 Not just

00:28:56.660 Trump

00:28:56.900 Biden

00:28:57.220 On his

00:28:57.940 Outgoing

00:28:58.360 Days

00:28:59.160 Is not taking

00:28:59.860 A position

00:29:01.020 They're not

00:29:01.600 You know

00:29:03.120 Favoring the

00:29:03.840 Islamists

00:29:04.640 As they're

00:29:04.980 Being called

00:29:05.520 Who have

00:29:05.880 Insurgents

00:29:06.920 Who have

00:29:07.160 Taken over

00:29:07.600 The country

00:29:08.140 With regard

00:29:09.640 To Israel 0.88

00:29:10.000 Though we

00:29:10.280 Do know

00:29:10.600 I mean

00:29:10.760 The Golan

00:29:11.120 Heights

00:29:11.460 Is the

00:29:11.820 Border zone

00:29:12.500 Between Israel 0.84

00:29:13.140 And Syria

00:29:13.660 And the

00:29:14.400 IDF

00:29:14.820 Is already

00:29:15.300 Assisting

00:29:16.440 The UN

00:29:17.040 In the

00:29:17.560 Golan

00:29:17.880 Because Syrian 0.57

00:29:18.860 Rebels

00:29:19.160 Are at the

00:29:19.800 Border

00:29:20.020 So there

00:29:21.240 Is real

00:29:21.540 Concern

00:29:22.100 About what

00:29:23.580 That could 0.68

00:29:23.900 Mean for

00:29:24.320 The security

00:29:24.760 Of Israel 0.92

00:29:25.160 In the

00:29:25.340 Region

00:29:25.540 And security

00:29:26.200 Of all the

00:29:26.540 Countries

00:29:26.780 Around it

00:29:27.240 I mean

00:29:27.540 There's going

00:29:28.600 To be

00:29:28.780 Refugees

00:29:29.280 This is a

00:29:30.060 Piece where

00:29:30.540 You know

00:29:30.740 We talk

00:29:31.020 About what

00:29:31.240 Canada

00:29:31.520 Is going

00:29:31.800 To do

00:29:32.020 Last time

00:29:32.660 We saw

00:29:32.940 This movie

00:29:33.400 Syrian

00:29:34.100 Refugees

00:29:34.740 In 2015

00:29:35.440 It had a

00:29:37.960 Huge political

00:29:38.500 Impact

00:29:38.960 I don't know

00:29:39.460 If that's

00:29:39.760 Going to

00:29:39.960 Happen

00:29:40.240 This time

00:29:40.680 But there

00:29:41.380 Will definitely

00:29:41.840 Be people

00:29:42.480 Trying to

00:29:42.820 Get out

00:29:43.100 Of the

00:29:43.300 Country

00:29:43.680 You know

00:29:44.640 People who

00:29:45.080 Didn't like

00:29:45.700 Assad

00:29:46.040 But don't

00:29:46.860 Necessarily want

00:29:47.460 To live under

00:29:47.860 Islamist rule 0.86

00:29:48.520 Either

00:29:48.740 Whatever that's

00:29:49.400 Going to look

00:29:49.740 Like

00:29:50.000 So all

00:29:51.140 These countries

00:29:51.500 Around it

00:29:51.980 Are going to

00:29:52.180 Be impacted

00:29:52.780 Iraq

00:29:53.600 Turkey

00:29:54.100 And Canada

00:29:55.700 Potentially

00:29:56.200 If people

00:29:56.740 Want to come

00:29:57.580 Here

00:29:57.900 Who knows

00:29:58.520 And Russia

00:29:59.480 Is also

00:29:59.820 Impacted

00:30:00.320 Because

00:30:00.660 They've lost

00:30:01.360 You know

00:30:02.060 Assad was 0.84

00:30:02.520 Their ally

00:30:03.020 They're saying

00:30:03.540 He left

00:30:04.280 The country

00:30:04.720 They're not

00:30:05.040 Saying if

00:30:05.320 He went

00:30:05.560 To Russia 0.54

00:30:05.900 Or not

00:30:06.300 But clearly

00:30:07.200 It's a blow

00:30:07.840 To them

00:30:08.480 Because it's

00:30:09.020 Seen as

00:30:09.500 You know

00:30:09.840 They got

00:30:10.120 So busy

00:30:10.540 In Ukraine

00:30:11.060 As Trump

00:30:11.840 You know

00:30:12.360 Put out

00:30:12.640 On Truth

00:30:12.960 Social

00:30:13.260 They couldn't

00:30:13.660 Handle this

00:30:14.260 Which is

00:30:15.220 Partly true

00:30:15.740 I mean

00:30:16.000 This is

00:30:16.260 Why this

00:30:16.660 Is happening

00:30:17.060 The timing

00:30:17.520 Is such

00:30:18.000 That you

00:30:18.600 Know

00:30:18.700 Russia

00:30:18.880 Was no

00:30:19.200 Longer

00:30:19.540 The ally

00:30:20.180 To Assad 0.89

00:30:20.580 That he

00:30:20.820 Had been

00:30:21.180 And the

00:30:22.060 Rebels

00:30:22.240 Took advantage

00:30:22.720 Of that

00:30:23.000 Fact

00:30:23.300 So it's

00:30:24.160 A mess

00:30:24.500 Yeah

00:30:24.940 It's a

00:30:25.220 Cauldron of

00:30:25.680 Bad things

00:30:26.140 We just

00:30:26.420 Don't know

00:30:26.640 How bad

00:30:26.920 They are

00:30:27.180 Yet

00:30:27.420 And Hezbollah 0.74

00:30:29.420 Obviously taking

00:30:30.240 A hit as

00:30:30.720 Well so that

00:30:31.340 Takes a big

00:30:32.080 Hit out of

00:30:32.760 Their protection

00:30:34.700 In Iran 0.76

00:30:35.180 As well

00:30:35.640 So very

00:30:36.780 Interesting to

00:30:37.340 See how this

00:30:37.780 Is kind of

00:30:38.120 Shaping the

00:30:38.580 Region

00:30:38.880 I guess

00:30:40.000 Not very

00:30:41.160 Much surprising

00:30:41.940 Here I guess

00:30:42.420 Carl because

00:30:42.820 We have been

00:30:43.240 Hearing about

00:30:43.660 This for days

00:30:44.240 But it is

00:30:44.640 Very sudden

00:30:45.300 Tasha mentioned

00:30:46.080 The kind of

00:30:46.440 Refugee angle

00:30:47.160 Of this

00:30:47.500 Are we going

00:30:47.940 To see impacts

00:30:48.620 On this

00:30:48.920 Not just in

00:30:49.400 The region

00:30:49.680 But possibly

00:30:50.640 You know

00:30:51.040 Here in

00:30:51.420 Canada

00:30:51.620 Or around

00:30:52.080 The world

00:30:52.460 Yeah possibly

00:30:54.740 I mean

00:30:55.260 Certainly

00:30:56.240 The instability

00:30:57.220 Is going to

00:30:58.360 Unfold in the

00:30:59.220 Coming days

00:30:59.900 And weeks

00:31:00.460 I mean

00:31:01.840 I'm not going

00:31:02.680 To cry for

00:31:03.160 Bashar al-Assad

00:31:03.960 Like we're

00:31:04.660 Going to cry

00:31:05.220 For this guy

00:31:05.980 You know

00:31:08.260 But at the

00:31:08.920 Same time

00:31:09.540 We don't

00:31:10.680 Know how

00:31:11.980 Things will

00:31:13.140 Unfold

00:31:13.640 Russia

00:31:15.300 Is taking

00:31:16.020 A hit

00:31:16.480 Israel

00:31:17.660 Is going to

00:31:18.400 Be on

00:31:19.160 High alert

00:31:20.660 Now

00:31:21.140 But

00:31:22.320 You know

00:31:22.640 If these

00:31:23.000 Guys are

00:31:23.360 Smart

00:31:23.740 They're going

00:31:24.520 To play

00:31:24.760 Their cards

00:31:25.160 Differently

00:31:25.700 Because

00:31:26.220 There's an

00:31:26.680 Opportunity

00:31:27.200 Here

00:31:27.540 And you

00:31:28.780 Know

00:31:28.940 In as much

00:31:29.720 As the

00:31:30.080 The

00:31:30.680 Asimist

00:31:31.060 Group has

00:31:31.440 Been the

00:31:31.780 Lead

00:31:32.100 It was

00:31:33.880 Wider than

00:31:34.680 That

00:31:35.040 It happened

00:31:35.960 So quickly

00:31:36.940 Frankly

00:31:37.740 The people

00:31:39.720 Of Syria 0.97

00:31:40.840 Also joined

00:31:41.840 Forces

00:31:42.780 Like it's

00:31:43.720 A very

00:31:44.360 Disparate

00:31:45.360 Group

00:31:45.820 That ended

00:31:46.940 Up

00:31:47.220 Taking

00:31:47.580 Control

00:31:48.780 Of Syria 0.97

00:31:49.480 How will

00:31:51.520 They

00:31:51.820 Govern

00:31:52.260 Now

00:31:52.720 It's

00:31:54.700 A very

00:31:55.560 Unstable

00:31:57.800 Situation

00:31:58.660 The truth

00:31:59.880 Though

00:32:00.160 Is that

00:32:01.000 When you

00:32:02.700 Look at

00:32:03.020 The

00:32:03.260 Situation

00:32:04.040 Right now

00:32:04.820 In the

00:32:05.400 Middle East

00:32:05.960 This can

00:32:07.720 Only be

00:32:08.220 Seen as

00:32:08.520 A positive

00:32:08.960 Development

00:32:09.520 Because

00:32:11.040 For the

00:32:11.840 People of

00:32:12.220 Syria

00:32:12.560 Bashar al-Assad

00:32:13.880 Was so

00:32:14.980 Awful

00:32:15.660 For the

00:32:16.580 Past two

00:32:17.260 Decades

00:32:17.800 That you

00:32:19.200 Know people

00:32:19.580 There's

00:32:19.920 Going to

00:32:20.300 Be a 0.95

00:32:20.540 Sense of

00:32:21.080 Hope

00:32:22.340 That could 0.68

00:32:23.080 Set in

00:32:23.880 Will

00:32:24.460 That

00:32:25.100 Unravel

00:32:26.080 Possibly

00:32:27.380 But you

00:32:28.360 Know maybe

00:32:28.720 It won't

00:32:29.700 And you

00:32:30.800 Know I

00:32:31.320 Want to be

00:32:32.220 Hopeful

00:32:32.580 About the

00:32:33.100 Situation

00:32:33.580 Yeah very

00:32:35.160 Try to be

00:32:36.000 Optimistic in

00:32:36.560 That sense

00:32:36.920 There are

00:32:37.320 You know

00:32:37.560 Shades of 1.00

00:32:38.020 The Arab

00:32:38.280 Spring

00:32:38.560 Back in

00:32:39.060 You know

00:32:39.340 2010

00:32:39.760 2011

00:32:40.220 We've

00:32:40.700 Seen that

00:32:41.000 Happen

00:32:41.280 But we've

00:32:41.900 Also seen

00:32:42.240 What's

00:32:42.440 Happened in

00:32:42.760 Afghanistan

00:32:43.180 As well

00:32:43.740 So definitely

00:32:44.540 Hopeful

00:32:45.040 We've seen

00:32:45.460 The celebrations

00:32:46.020 From the

00:32:46.440 Syrian people

00:32:47.120 Some involved

00:32:47.760 This morning

00:32:48.200 As well

00:32:48.580 So we'll

00:32:48.920 Keep an

00:32:49.200 Eye on

00:32:49.940 Developments

00:32:50.420 Happening

00:32:50.760 In Syria

00:32:51.280 Once again

00:32:51.780 The Syrian 0.53

00:32:52.180 Government

00:32:52.540 And Bashar

00:32:53.060 Al-Assad

00:32:53.620 Have fallen

00:32:54.500 He has

00:32:54.940 Left the

00:32:55.600 Country

00:32:56.000 Just to

00:32:56.900 Talk back

00:32:57.340 Here on

00:32:57.640 Domestic 0.64

00:32:57.980 Politics

00:32:58.420 Just wondering

00:32:59.280 If we're

00:32:59.640 Losing our

00:33:03.580 And thank

00:33:04.100 You to

00:33:04.440 Tasha

00:33:04.860 For flagging

00:33:05.420 This

00:33:05.600 So this

00:33:06.360 All about

00:33:06.780 The November

00:33:07.160 28th

00:33:07.760 House debate

00:33:08.260 On this

00:33:08.680 Temporary

00:33:09.140 GST

00:33:09.580 Tax

00:33:10.160 Holiday

00:33:10.540 Bill

00:33:10.940 So

00:33:11.180 Apparently

00:33:11.880 This late

00:33:12.340 Night

00:33:12.480 Debate

00:33:12.780 At the

00:33:13.020 Time

00:33:13.240 We didn't

00:33:13.540 Know

00:33:13.760 But it

00:33:14.060 Turned

00:33:14.280 Into

00:33:14.460 Chaos

00:33:14.980 The NDP

00:33:15.840 Accusing

00:33:16.320 Some

00:33:16.560 Conservative

00:33:17.000 MPs

00:33:17.540 Of being

00:33:17.880 Drunk

00:33:18.320 Pages

00:33:18.860 Were removed

00:33:19.500 The

00:33:19.980 Tories

00:33:20.240 Saying

00:33:20.540 It was

00:33:20.780 The NDPs

00:33:21.500 Were the

00:33:21.700 Ones

00:33:21.900 That were

00:33:22.140 Actually

00:33:22.420 To

00:33:22.580 Blame

00:33:22.860 No one

00:33:23.760 Is 0.88

00:33:23.900 Willing

00:33:24.120 To

00:33:24.240 Get

00:33:24.360 Into

00:33:24.480 Details

00:33:24.840 Including

00:33:25.160 The Speaker

00:33:25.600 Kind of

00:33:25.920 Giving

00:33:26.060 The

00:33:26.200 Run

00:33:26.340 Around

00:33:26.520 To

00:33:26.720 Everybody

00:33:27.080 Here

00:33:27.420 So

00:33:27.620 Tasha

00:33:28.400 I'll

00:33:28.580 Start

00:33:28.680 With

00:33:28.800 You

00:33:28.880 Is 0.88

00:33:29.060 This

00:33:29.180 Just

00:33:29.340 Kind of

00:33:29.960 Par

00:33:30.260 For

00:33:30.460 Politics

00:33:30.980 Or

00:33:31.180 Where

00:33:31.280 We

00:33:31.440 Are

00:33:31.660 Or

00:33:31.900 Should

00:33:32.080 Everybody

00:33:32.380 Just

00:33:32.660 Kind of

00:33:32.920 Maybe

00:33:33.120 Grow

00:33:33.500 Up

00:33:33.680 A little

00:33:33.920 Bit

00:33:34.180 It

00:33:35.400 Shouldn't

00:33:35.720 Be

00:33:35.900 Par

00:33:36.180 For

00:33:36.360 Politics

00:33:36.860 No

00:33:37.320 Maybe

00:33:37.560 It

00:33:37.720 Was

00:33:37.940 You

00:33:38.320 Know

00:33:38.540 40

00:33:39.000 Years

00:33:39.320 Ago

00:33:39.660 People

00:33:40.280 The

00:33:40.900 Sense

00:33:41.800 Of

00:33:41.980 What

00:33:42.140 Was

00:33:42.280 Permissive

00:33:42.720 Behavior

00:33:43.120 Was

00:33:43.460 Very

00:33:43.960 Different

00:33:44.520 Especially

00:33:45.600 When

00:33:45.760 It

00:33:45.780 Came

00:33:45.880 To

00:33:45.980 Harassment

00:33:46.500 Drunkenness

00:33:55.160 House

00:33:55.460 The

00:33:56.440 Ongoing

00:33:56.780 Filibuster

00:33:57.220 By

00:33:57.420 The

00:33:57.520 Conservatives

00:33:58.060 The

00:33:58.500 Obstruction

00:33:58.900 Of

00:33:59.040 All

00:33:59.160 The

00:33:59.280 Bills

00:33:59.640 And

00:34:01.180 The

00:34:01.520 Real

00:34:02.820 Serious

00:34:03.360 Political

00:34:03.780 Gainsmanship

00:34:04.380 On

00:34:04.820 All

00:34:05.060 Sides

00:34:05.340 The

00:34:05.820 Conservatives

00:34:06.560 The

00:34:06.740 NDP

00:34:07.100 Who

00:34:07.440 Raised

00:34:07.840 Abortion

00:34:08.340 This

00:34:08.880 Week

00:34:09.080 Everyone

00:34:11.140 Got

00:34:11.480 The

00:34:11.660 Knives

00:34:12.000 Out

00:34:12.260 So

00:34:12.540 I

00:34:12.640 Think

00:34:12.760 The

00:34:12.900 Tempers

00:34:13.260 Are

00:34:13.460 Flaring

00:34:14.000 And

00:34:14.500 Yeah

00:34:14.920 They

00:34:15.040 Had

00:34:15.180 Too

00:34:15.380 Much

00:34:15.540 To

00:34:15.720 Drink

00:34:16.020 There

00:34:16.260 Really

00:34:16.700 Is 0.88

00:34:16.900 No

00:34:17.040 Excuse

00:34:17.500 To

00:34:17.660 That

00:34:17.880 But

00:34:18.360 I

00:34:18.460 Think

00:34:18.620 This

00:34:18.800 Is 0.88

00:34:18.880 What's

00:34:19.100 Happening

00:34:19.360 I

00:34:19.480 Think

00:34:19.600 They

00:34:19.720 All

00:34:19.940 Do

00:34:20.160 Need

00:34:20.340 To

00:34:20.460 Go

00:34:20.620 Off

00:34:20.820 On

00:34:20.940 Vacation

00:34:21.440 And

00:34:22.240 They

00:34:22.360 Definitely

00:34:22.620 They

00:34:22.820 Should

00:34:22.920 Have

00:34:23.100 Sanctions

00:34:24.020 If

00:34:24.180 They

00:34:24.280 Behaved

00:34:24.580 Inappropriately

00:34:25.200 Because

00:34:25.520 You

00:34:25.740 Know

00:34:25.840 What

00:34:26.080 This

00:34:26.600 Kind

00:34:26.800 Of

00:34:26.880 Stuff

00:34:27.040 Should

00:34:27.200 Not

00:34:27.340 Be

00:34:27.480 Happening

00:34:27.760 Especially

00:34:28.060 On

00:34:28.420 Parliament

00:34:28.760 Hill

00:34:29.080 Like

00:34:29.460 What

00:34:29.620 The 0.98

00:34:29.740 Heck

00:34:30.000 Yeah

00:34:30.460 We

00:34:47.500 All

00:34:47.740 Of

00:34:47.860 This

00:34:48.000 Kind

00:34:48.200 Of

00:34:48.280 Political

00:34:48.540 Rhetoric

00:34:48.960 I

00:34:50.740 Guess

00:34:51.560 The

00:34:51.700 Conservatives

00:34:52.140 Are

00:34:52.260 Leading

00:34:52.420 In

00:34:52.520 The

00:34:52.600 Polls

00:34:52.880 That's

00:34:53.080 The

00:34:53.200 Standard

00:34:53.500 Bearer

00:34:53.940 But

00:34:54.100 Still

00:34:54.420 The

00:34:55.420 Conservatives

00:34:55.820 Are

00:34:55.900 Up

00:34:56.020 23

00:34:56.480 Points

00:34:56.940 So

00:34:57.100 From

00:34:59.760 An

00:34:59.900 Electoral

00:35:00.260 Standpoint

00:35:00.800 I

00:35:00.940 Think

00:35:01.120 What

00:35:01.300 Is 0.88

00:35:01.920 Who

00:35:02.460 Is 0.88

00:35:02.580 Losing

00:35:02.980 Is 0.88

00:35:03.460 The

00:35:04.220 Government

00:35:04.520 Because

00:35:04.940 It's

00:35:05.340 Looking

00:35:05.520 Like

00:35:05.720 They

00:35:05.860 Can't

00:35:06.100 Control

00:35:06.460 What's

00:35:06.860 Going

00:35:07.040 On

00:35:07.320 It's

00:35:07.740 Just

00:35:07.920 Chaos

00:35:08.280 And

00:35:08.620 People

00:35:08.900 Don't

00:35:09.380 Like

00:35:09.660 That

00:35:09.860 They

00:35:10.040 Want

00:35:10.260 Stability

00:35:10.660 Right

00:35:10.960 Now

00:35:11.260 With

00:35:12.120 Everything

00:35:12.420 Happening

00:35:12.860 To

00:35:13.000 Them

00:35:13.140 Personally

00:35:13.560 Pocket

00:35:14.200 Book

00:35:14.400 Issues

00:35:14.960 Holidays

00:35:16.340 Christmas

00:35:16.700 Is 0.88

00:35:16.920 Coming

00:35:17.240 People

00:35:18.000 Are

00:35:18.160 Feeling

00:35:18.400 That

00:35:18.640 Pinch

00:35:19.000 Even

00:35:19.220 More

00:35:19.560 And

00:35:20.320 They're

00:35:20.580 Looking

00:35:20.780 At

00:35:20.980 This

00:35:21.160 And

00:35:21.280 They're

00:35:21.400 Saying

00:35:21.600 What

00:35:21.880 The 0.98

00:35:22.100 Heck

00:35:22.380 This

00:35:22.640 Government

00:35:22.900 Is 0.88

00:35:23.120 Out

00:35:23.340 Of

00:35:23.460 Control

00:35:23.860 So

00:35:24.200 When

00:35:24.600 It

00:35:24.700 Looks

00:35:25.120 Like

00:35:25.280 Out

00:35:25.540 Of

00:35:25.640 Control

00:35:25.900 Look

00:35:26.100 What's

00:35:26.260 Happened

00:35:26.560 Around

00:35:27.000 The

00:35:27.240 World

00:35:27.540 People

00:35:28.220 Vote

00:35:28.520 For

00:35:28.820 What

00:35:29.080 They

00:35:29.180 Consider

00:35:29.540 The

00:35:29.920 Strongman

00:35:30.580 Or

00:35:30.720 The

00:35:30.840 Order

00:35:31.240 Party

00:35:31.640 Of

00:35:31.800 Law

00:35:31.960 And

00:35:32.040 Order

00:35:32.220 Order

00:35:32.540 Or

00:35:33.100 What

00:35:33.340 They

00:35:33.440 Want

00:35:33.900 The

00:35:34.460 Conservatives

00:35:34.840 Are

00:35:34.940 Promising

00:35:35.300 To

00:35:35.500 Deliver

00:35:35.740 That

00:35:35.980 Whether

00:35:36.180 It's

00:35:36.400 In

00:35:36.520 Slogans

00:35:36.940 Or

00:35:37.080 Not

00:35:37.320 But

00:35:37.500 They're

00:35:37.620 Saying

00:35:37.900 No

00:35:38.260 Crime

00:35:38.680 And

00:35:40.100 Chaos

00:35:40.640 Axe

00:35:43.060 Attacks

00:35:43.500 Very

00:35:44.100 Simple

00:35:44.380 Things

00:35:44.660 People

00:35:44.880 Can

00:35:45.060 Grab

00:35:45.280 On

00:35:45.500 To

00:35:45.580 And

00:35:45.700 Say

00:35:45.820 Yeah

00:35:46.020 You

00:35:46.180 Know

00:35:46.300 What

00:35:46.540 Me

00:35:46.940 Someone

00:35:47.080 Is 0.88

00:35:47.240 Going

00:35:47.420 To

00:35:47.480 Come

00:35:47.660 In

00:35:47.780 And

00:35:47.920 Do

00:35:48.100 That

00:35:48.360 So

00:35:48.640 If

00:35:49.280 I

00:35:49.380 Think

00:35:49.520 Anyone

00:35:49.720 Is 0.88

00:35:49.860 Win

00:35:50.040 I

00:35:50.260 Think

00:35:50.440 The

00:35:50.860 Conservatives

00:35:51.260 Win

00:35:51.540 Even

00:35:51.720 Though

00:35:51.880 They're

00:35:52.100 The

00:35:52.500 Ones

00:35:52.720 Distracting

00:35:53.580 With

00:35:54.140 The

00:35:54.260 Filibuster

00:35:54.760 Most

00:35:55.100 Of

00:35:55.200 This

00:35:55.360 Stuff

00:35:55.680 And

00:35:56.340 We

00:35:56.800 Often

00:35:57.020 Call

00:35:57.300 The

00:35:57.460 End

00:35:57.620 Of

00:35:57.740 A

00:35:57.940 House

00:35:58.160 Session

00:35:58.360 Kind

00:35:58.540 Of 0.99

00:35:58.620 Silly 0.98

00:35:59.060 Season 0.93

00:35:59.440 But

00:35:59.680 We

00:36:00.860 Don't

00:36:01.060 Know

00:36:01.340 That

00:36:01.500 It's

00:36:01.620 Going

00:36:01.760 To

00:36:01.860 End

00:36:02.040 Soon

00:36:02.240 But

00:36:02.380 It

00:36:02.800 Appears

00:36:03.220 Like

00:36:03.400 It

00:36:03.520 Could

00:36:03.800 End

00:36:04.080 Soon

00:36:04.240 I

00:36:04.360 Guess

00:36:04.520 At

00:36:04.660 This

00:36:04.840 Point

00:36:05.040 Carl

00:36:05.820 Are

00:36:06.440 You

00:36:06.560 Surprised

00:36:06.980 By

00:36:07.200 This

00:36:07.520 Hill

00:36:07.660 Times

00:36:07.900 Report

00:36:08.200 Just

00:36:08.480 Of

00:36:27.620 See

00:36:27.840 In

00:36:28.480 Most

00:36:28.740 Workplace

00:36:29.420 So

00:36:30.680 Yeah

00:36:30.940 No

00:36:31.180 I

00:36:31.360 Am

00:36:31.720 Surprised

00:36:32.160 That

00:36:32.400 We

00:36:32.660 Don't

00:36:32.840 See

00:36:33.060 Those

00:36:33.240 Reports

00:36:33.560 Coming

00:36:33.800 Up

00:36:33.960 More

00:36:34.140 Often

00:36:34.400 Brian

00:36:35.200 Massey

00:36:35.800 NEP

00:36:36.700 MP

00:36:36.940 For

00:36:37.120 Winter

00:36:37.320 West

00:36:37.600 Raised

00:36:37.940 This

00:36:38.220 A

00:36:38.620 Couple 0.60

00:36:38.800 Years

00:36:39.100 Ago

00:36:39.360 And

00:36:39.520 As

00:36:39.700 Speaker

00:36:40.040 To

00:36:40.340 Crack

00:36:41.300 Down

00:36:41.600 On

00:36:41.780 This

00:36:41.940 Kind

00:36:42.140 Of

00:36:42.240 Behavior

00:36:42.620 And

00:36:43.000 The

00:36:43.160 Speaker

00:36:43.460 Just

00:36:44.060 Kind

00:36:44.300 Of

00:36:44.480 Move

00:36:46.800 Move

00:36:47.160 Move

00:36:47.800 Move

00:36:48.300 Move

00:36:48.320 Along

00:36:48.720 And

00:36:48.960 It

00:36:49.180 Didn't

00:36:49.660 Really

00:36:49.880 Matter

00:36:50.300 And

00:36:50.520 It

00:36:50.640 Doesn't

00:36:50.840 Really

00:36:51.060 Matter

00:36:51.400 Now

00:36:52.240 When

00:36:52.520 It

00:36:52.620 Comes

00:36:52.820 To

00:36:53.080 What's

00:36:53.760 Happening

00:36:54.020 Right

00:36:54.320 Now

00:36:54.780 And

00:36:55.740 Your

00:36:56.060 Question

00:36:56.500 Which

00:36:56.800 Is 0.88

00:36:56.980 Who's

00:36:57.240 Winning

00:36:57.720 Basically

00:37:00.140 It's

00:37:00.400 Not

00:37:00.540 Who's

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00:50:23.780 On the other hand, what do you expect of someone like Pierre Polyev, who is poised to become leader?

00:50:29.200 Is he supposed to just sit on the sidelines?

00:50:31.600 How does this work?

00:50:32.680 I wanted to turn to two people who have been in the trenches, understand the political game behind the scenes.

00:50:38.580 And one, I think, despises Trump.

00:50:41.940 The other does not despise Trump.

00:50:44.180 And so I thought it would be interesting to have that conversation this way.

00:50:46.980 So we'll talk to Warren Kinsella, president of Daisy Group, former political strategist for Jean Chrétien,

00:50:51.300 and Ms. Adrienne Batchett, editor-in-chief of Toronto Sun, former CAF lieutenant.

00:50:56.560 Did I set that up properly, guys?

00:50:59.400 I think you probably nailed it.

00:51:02.800 A little bit.

00:51:03.400 But you both have a particular expertise, right, in running campaigns.

00:51:09.060 Let me start with you on this one, Warren, because, you know, you're liberal and I'll say this.

00:51:14.520 You know how the campaigns work.

00:51:15.920 How do you campaign in a climate when dealing with a Donald Trump?

00:51:18.480 If you're, you know, Pierre Polyev, but if you're Justin Trudeau, can he have any expectation that, you know, the campaign just stops?

00:51:26.440 Well, Trudeau is a dead man walking, so that is his problem.

00:51:30.400 I don't know if he's aware of the fact that he is, but certainly the Trump guys are.

00:51:35.260 So that's why I think they're trolling him in public and poking a bit of fun at him.

00:51:40.760 Polyev has actually a very narrow path to walk, but I think he's doing a good job.

00:51:45.120 On the one hand, he's the leader of the opposition, so he's got to oppose the government.

00:51:49.500 He's continued to do that.

00:51:51.080 But he's also been very critical of what Trump said about the 25 percent tariff.

00:51:56.040 He said it's completely unreasonable.

00:51:57.980 It's completely unacceptable.

00:51:59.380 He said he's going to, if he was prime minister, he would retaliate if need be.

00:52:03.860 So I think he's walked the line in the right way.

00:52:07.080 The problem for Trudeau is, you know, he really has no leverage with the Trump guys, and we desperately need that now because those 25 percent tariffs, if they come to pass, they could sink the Canadian economy.

00:52:21.100 Yeah, and Batchelor, it's interesting because Trump has been a wedge issue for the Trudeau government, so that can't be a thing this time around.

00:52:28.320 You know, Trudeau's gotten into a lot of trouble, you know, using Trump as his punchline and certainly using him as jokes with other world leaders.

00:52:35.760 He was called two-faced by Trump, so, you know, they've got a past.

00:52:40.080 But, you know, how do you see this moving forward, right?

00:52:43.640 How does the campaign look when we're in the middle of trying to, you know, renegotiate and stave off these tariffs?

00:52:50.780 Well, no one could argue that Donald Trump didn't telegraph exactly what he wanted to do, and it didn't matter what country you're in, neighbour, ally, whatever the case may be.

00:53:03.040 What was surprising was the number, the 25 percent.

00:53:07.380 That's the surprising part.

00:53:08.680 But the notion that he was going to slap tariffs on left, right and centre is not surprising.

00:53:13.740 So no one should be shocked by that.

00:53:15.360 But the challenge Canada faces, and I agree with Warren's assessment on how Pierre Polyev has been sort of navigating this thus far.

00:53:25.140 He is like, yes, Team Canada, we need to come out strong and do what's in the best interest of Canadians, because we are not the 51st state.

00:53:36.340 But this is the challenge that we have as a country in a circumstance like this, is we don't have a prime minister who speaks with much moral authority, who speaks from a position of strength, and who speaks from a position where we have someone across the table who's willing to listen.

00:53:55.220 That's the challenge Canada faces, and yes, I suspect that Trump is acutely aware of the fact that Justin Trudeau likely will not be the prime minister after the next federal election.

00:54:08.580 So that's Canada's conundrum, where I think it's a bit ridiculous for them to suggest that Pierre Polyev shouldn't point out some of the weaknesses that we have had with the border, with the flow of drugs.

00:54:20.340 We have not done a good job in that regard, but we don't have someone right now who is in a position of strength and can speak with moral clarity and authority on what Canada has done or is doing with respect to this.

00:54:35.820 And that's where the Trudeau government is on very shaky ground when it comes to whatever negotiations are coming through against the tariffs and upcoming negotiations on USMCA.

00:54:48.980 The other thing is, Warren, it's really difficult because the things that Trudeau would have to appease Trump with means he has to reverse a lot of his policies, right?

00:54:56.740 Like he's already reversing the immigration policy, going back on that.

00:55:00.080 But there are a lot of stances, even their latest two stances on Israel have been absolutely, I mean, outrageous, you know, voting with the ICC.

00:55:07.600 And now this other on, you know, the two state solution and all these things that they're doing make us outliers.

00:55:14.680 But even on energy policy, like we do have leverage, you know, Keystone's going to come around again.

00:55:19.600 Natural gas is going to be needed for things like AI, but it would require Trudeau to backtrack on everything.

00:55:24.760 Yeah, and he's not going to do that.

00:55:28.600 That's evident.

00:55:29.940 You know, he's doubled down on his anti-Israel stance in the past few days, as is his minister of global affairs, Melanie Jolie, who's just a disaster. 0.98

00:55:39.820 But, you know, he looks like he's sucking and blown at the same time with Trump. 0.94

00:55:44.640 You know, he has made fun of Trump, you know, in international meetings. 0.98

00:55:48.720 He's a hot mic caught him, you know, dismissing Trump and mocking him to other world leaders.

00:55:54.900 I'm sure he's not alone in that. 0.96

00:55:56.900 You know, Trump is a super weird politician.

00:55:59.800 You know, that tweet he put out was of a picture of him.

00:56:02.780 Oh, Canada, he said it.

00:56:04.220 It was a picture of him looking at the Matterhorn.

00:56:06.360 This last time I check is not in Canada.

00:56:08.620 But I mean, it is what it is.

00:56:10.240 You know, he's he's the president elect in the United States of America.

00:56:13.640 We got to deal with it.

00:56:14.660 And I can't figure out still what the Trudeau government's plan is.

00:56:20.820 You know, is it a Team Canada approach?

00:56:23.140 Is it, you know, being critical of the premiers in Pollywood?

00:56:27.320 Like, I can't figure out what he's doing.

00:56:29.600 And all of us should be alarmed because one quarter of the employment, one quarter of the jobs in Canada depend on having a sane trading relationship with the United States of America.

00:56:40.640 I'm not here to tell the prime minister how to do his job, but I promise you, I will tell him when I think he's wrong.

00:56:50.780 Like on the carbon tax, he's wrong.

00:56:56.080 I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it.

00:56:59.880 I'd rather cut your income taxes permanently than cut you a rebate check.

00:57:05.720 It's the wrong idea.

00:57:07.080 That is the liberal leader, Bonnie Crombie, and she was speaking at the liberals' first fundraising dinner in eight years.

00:57:16.220 They managed to put 1.65 million bucks into the war chest, and she's ready to wage that war, she says.

00:57:22.340 And, of course, she's trying to distance herself from the Trudeau government.

00:57:26.540 Got Warren Kinsella here and Adrian Batra.

00:57:28.460 And, you know, these are all larger conversations to be had, but I would love to get both of you.

00:57:32.720 Adrian, Bonnie Crombie's had a bit of trouble, I think.

00:57:35.680 Like, you know, she's got the name recognition, but I think she's had really trouble punching through and making some noise.

00:57:40.640 She's had a year there, right?

00:57:41.780 And she doesn't have a seat.

00:57:43.600 She should have been out yesterday, kind of front and center on the AG report.

00:57:46.700 There are moments where I think she's got to be out in the scene, and she's not.

00:57:50.600 And yet she comes out and she's distancing herself from her, you know, federal counterparts.

00:57:56.220 Smart to do.

00:57:57.020 But, again, I feel like she's struggling to find her ground when maybe what she should learn is stop being apologetic.

00:58:02.580 Like, you've got to be someone and stand for it, right?

00:58:05.500 You kind of got that sense pretty much since she became leader of the Liberal Party of Ontario,

00:58:09.700 that there has been really no niche that she's been able to grab onto.

00:58:15.060 But I will say this position that she's taken on the carbon tax was out of necessity.

00:58:21.340 Justin Trudeau, one of the reasons why Canadians are so fed up, so frustrated, is not just because nine years of a lethargic government that's out of touch,

00:58:30.600 but Pierre Pallievre has made such a good, has done such a good job of positioning the carbon tax as one of the biggest ills to why our economy is such as it is

00:58:40.080 and what it's done to the bottom line for each and every individual Canadian's pocketbook.

00:58:45.780 And so, Bonnie Crombie, you know, fairly or unfairly, you know, you do get tied with your federal cousins and your provincial cousins as a Liberal.

00:58:55.260 She knew that this was something that Doug Ford has vociferously been opposed to.

00:59:00.880 She needed something to say to the electorate come year or year's time, you know, six months' time when we have a provincial election.

00:59:08.020 And this was a political move she had to make.

00:59:13.440 I don't know, however, Alex, if it's going to be enough to carve out enough of a niche for her with the electorate of Ontario,

00:59:21.080 who is likely going to support a Ford majority in the next election.

00:59:26.220 I don't think it's, I don't know if it's enough.

00:59:28.580 And you kind of heard in that clip, you played very tepid applause from the room.

00:59:34.460 Maybe there weren't a lot of people in there.

00:59:35.880 I don't know.

00:59:36.820 But there wasn't this sort of boisterous, like, yes, this is the issue that we're going to go fight against.

00:59:41.880 Because she, she, she's really just carving out who's going to go in second place in the next provincial election. 0.61

00:59:49.140 Is it her or is it Mark Stiles in the NDP?

00:59:52.620 So she's really just fighting for a spot for second place at this point.

00:59:56.420 Yeah, I mean, I think that's fair because we could be looking at an election in just a few months.

01:00:00.040 Having said all that, Warren, one of the things about conservative leaders,

01:00:02.960 that they, they seem to have learned, or at least Pierre Polyev has learned,

01:00:06.020 is stop being apologetic and stop trying to be everything to everybody.

01:00:09.080 Where, you know, Aaron O'Toole fumbled when he tried to be all things to not, you know, alienate anybody.

01:00:15.140 Same thing with Andrew Scheer.

01:00:16.580 Whereas Pierre Polyev has, he literally branded himself overnight and he's not been apologetic

01:00:21.020 and he's been able to drive the message and the conversation.

01:00:23.440 There is that chance here in Ontario.

01:00:25.780 There's lots to go after on the Ford government for spending.

01:00:29.040 She hasn't done that.

01:00:29.960 So what would you advise her to do?

01:00:31.620 What's her, what's her niche, right?

01:00:33.380 What's her thing?

01:00:34.820 Well, I wouldn't have advised her to do what she did because nobody believes it, number one. 0.93

01:00:39.620 And number two, it was dumb because everybody knows that Pierre Polyev is going to be prime minister. 0.69

01:00:45.960 And the one thing we all know about him is he's going to ax the tax. 0.82

01:00:49.260 Like the carbon tax is dead.

01:00:51.220 It's gone, right?

01:00:52.740 So all she needed to say was, I've never been in support of it.

01:00:57.960 And if it gets removed, I'm not going to fight to have it brought back.

01:01:02.320 But there, you know, there is a way to, because I ran all adults and McGinty's worms, as you guys know.

01:01:07.960 There is a way to carve out a difference from the federal party.

01:01:11.360 And McGinty showed the way.

01:01:12.720 You know, he, for example, said, we're not going to have Sharia law in Ontario, you know,

01:01:16.980 or I disagree with the federal liberal party and whatnot.

01:01:20.360 And he was able to show some distinctions and some differences.

01:01:25.060 And the Martin guys disappeared.

01:01:27.160 And he ended up having an excellent relationship with Stephen Harper.

01:01:30.480 So, like, you know, she didn't need to say this because, A, nobody believes it.

01:01:36.080 And, B, it was unnecessary.

01:01:37.920 There's other ways to show that you're different from the federal party.

01:01:41.460 Yeah.

01:01:41.740 And she's going to have to, I think, just be very, very sure about it.

01:01:46.280 So, define yourself and don't apologize because it's the wishy-washiness that people don't seem to resonate with.

01:01:53.640 Well, look, guys, I could talk for a lot longer, but I know you have lives and apparently things to do.

01:01:58.200 So, I appreciate your time.

01:01:59.840 We'll talk again.

01:02:00.960 Thanks, guys.

01:02:01.420 Thank you very much.

01:02:02.000 All right.

01:02:02.300 That's Warren Kinsella, president over at Daisy Group, also a former political strategist of the Jean Chrétien era.

01:02:07.760 And Adrian Bantra, editor-in-chief over at The Sun, also been in politics a long, long time.

01:02:13.240 Everyone I know is breaking hearts tonight.

01:02:19.800 Everyone I know is bleeding, but I know we'll be all right.

01:02:26.000 Everyone I know is breaking hearts tonight.

01:02:31.580 Everyone I know, everyone I know, everyone I know is a broken heart.

01:02:40.140 Ghosted, coasting, feeling free.

01:02:44.580 Ah, windows open, infinity.

01:02:49.580 It's a bad boy in a fast car.

01:03:07.560 It's a glass half full that you're knocked over.

01:03:10.720 It's a home run for the masses.

01:03:13.780 It's a pair of big Gucci sunglasses.

01:03:16.160 It's a love, love, soft undressin'. 1.00

01:03:19.880 It's a good strike for the fancy fuck. 1.00

01:03:23.000 It's a, whatever, I can't take me by the hand if you're last full. 1.00

01:03:27.640 Everyone I know is breaking hearts tonight.

01:03:33.680 Everyone I know is bleeding, but I know we'll be all right.

01:03:39.880 Everyone I know is breaking hearts tonight.

01:03:45.440 Everyone I know, everyone I know, everyone I know is a broken heart.

01:03:52.220 Kissing, fleeing, but it feels uneven.

01:03:59.860 Long nights, stealing, hoping and believing.

01:04:04.940 It's a bad boy in a fast car.

01:04:08.780 Sneaking out of the night through the back door.

01:04:11.620 Lever backseat, tail eye heat.

01:04:14.920 Looking for more, looking, looking for more.

01:04:18.000 Switch play, clutch perks.

01:04:21.060 Motorbike, miniskirt, horsepower, engine.

01:04:26.620 Vibrations, oh, I'm shaking.

01:04:29.460 Headache, dog aches.

01:04:33.400 Stolen glances sideways.

01:04:35.840 Heartache, mistakes.

01:04:38.840 Giving yourself completely.

01:04:41.900 Everyone I know is breaking hearts tonight.

01:04:58.680 Everyone I know is bleeding, but I know we'll be all right.

01:05:05.760 Everyone I know is breaking hearts tonight.

01:05:11.900 Everyone I know, everyone I know, everyone I know is a broken heart.

01:05:18.200 All right.

01:05:32.860 Three four.

01:05:38.000 Two three.

01:05:41.700 Thank you.

01:06:11.700 Thank you.

01:06:41.700 Thank you.

kinsellacast - December 08, 2024

KINSELLACAST 339： World goes to Hell in a handbasket - with Mraz, Batra, Belanger, Kheiriddin, plus Molly Payton, Slow Pulp, Hovvdy, Dehd

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