kinsellacast - KINSELLACAST 344： So long Justin, so long Canada？ Lilley, Kheiriddin, Belanger, Mraz, Mulroney, Koch, Hollett, Wells plus HotWax, the Bug Club, Satin Call, Oscar G and more

00:00:00.000 It's the KinsellaCast, starring Warren Kinsella.

00:00:16.680 Hey, it's Warren. Welcome to the KinsellaCast.

00:00:20.340 What a fucking week. What a week.

00:00:24.960 At mere hours after I last spoke to you, Justin Trudeau resigned, as I predicted he would.

00:00:33.080 Liberal leadership kicks off. The people who are supposed to jump in don't.

00:00:38.280 And some people who shouldn't jump in did.

00:00:42.080 Donald Trump declares war against Greenland, Denmark, Panama, and Canada.

00:00:49.160 And the federal government is paralyzed and giving a response.

00:00:53.960 California on fire. Conflicts around the world.

00:00:58.240 It has been a total shitshow clusterfuck of a week.

00:01:03.560 That is my professional restrained way of describing it to you.

00:01:07.880 So, to figure it all out, I've got lots of stuff going on this week.

00:01:14.260 I've got Brian Lilly and John Mraz, of course, trying to peer through the prism to discern some meaning.

00:01:22.580 Tasha Carradine, Carl Belanger, Ben Mulroney, Anthony Koch, Paul Wells.

00:01:28.720 Like a whole bunch of people.

00:01:32.660 Really smart people.

00:01:34.500 Try and figure it all out.

00:01:36.260 Entertain you.

00:01:37.300 And in the entertainment department, I've got some good stuff.

00:01:40.220 I've got Hot Wax.

00:01:41.540 There's a trio from Hastings with their song Phone Machine.

00:01:44.340 Bug Club, who I love.

00:01:46.820 The two brothers, Caldecott in England.

00:01:50.000 And they've got a song about James Bond.

00:01:52.320 Seemed to fit.

00:01:53.100 Satin Cali.

00:01:54.560 Another Australian beach grunge band.

00:01:57.460 There's a lot of those.

00:01:58.880 But they've got a song about the good old days.

00:02:00.540 And I think quite a few of us were wishing for the good old days.

00:02:04.800 Oscar G.

00:02:06.240 Kind of stuff I don't normally play.

00:02:07.820 But I just dug this riff and this beat.

00:02:10.500 With Chunky Buddha.

00:02:11.820 He does house music.

00:02:13.100 He's from Florida.

00:02:14.960 Scotland's Altered Images.

00:02:16.860 Remember her voice?

00:02:17.720 What an angel she was.

00:02:19.160 They were so perfect.

00:02:20.760 Greatest pop band of the summer of 1982.

00:02:24.580 With I Could Be Happy.

00:02:25.980 And Bomb Pops.

00:02:27.140 With their song about Los Angeles.

00:02:28.900 And I do it for them.

00:02:30.080 Because they're a great band.

00:02:31.120 But also, all of us are thinking about Los Angeles this week.

00:02:34.320 And hoping that people are okay.

00:02:35.600 So, great show.

00:02:38.120 I wanted to direct your attention in a slightly different direction.

00:02:42.740 Because on the podcast, we'll be talking about all kinds of other stuff.

00:02:45.640 Um, Pierre Polyev.

00:02:50.380 Like, in any conflict, real life or otherwise, it is always a danger to be fighting the last war.

00:02:59.480 Politics doesn't stand still for anybody.

00:03:02.780 Events never stop coming.

00:03:04.660 What was an issue yesterday almost certainly will not be an issue tomorrow.

00:03:09.280 Despite all that, there Pierre Polyev was this week, standing at a podium, bearing the slogan,

00:03:16.780 Axe the Tax Election.

00:03:19.120 Just below that, it said the same thing in French.

00:03:23.140 Now, the precise date that the conservative leader launched his Axe the Tax campaign is lost in the mists of time.

00:03:30.780 CTV tells us it started in June 2023.

00:03:34.140 Whatever the case, this much is true.

00:03:36.320 The world has changed, Pierre, pretty dramatically since June 2023.

00:03:42.700 October 7th, and the war in Gaza hadn't even started.

00:03:46.900 A ceasefire was in place with Hamas, in fact.

00:03:49.760 Ukraine had commenced a counteroffensive against Russia, and the results, they look promising.

00:03:56.560 California was experiencing a deluge of rain, not fire.

00:04:01.520 Donald Trump was viewed unfavorably, or very unfavorably, by half of Americans.

00:04:08.840 The Canadian dollar was worth 75 cents, U.S.

00:04:12.680 And while Polyev was, back then, still ahead of the Trudeau liberals, his lead was just a fraction of what it is now.

00:04:20.060 Seven points.

00:04:21.080 That's almost the margin of error.

00:04:22.280 So, since June 2023, a couple other events of note have happened.

00:04:29.040 I'm going to draw them to Pierre's attention.

00:04:31.080 One, Justin Trudeau has announced that he will no longer be Prime Minister.

00:04:35.460 He will be gone, completely gone, in 56 days.

00:04:40.380 Less than two months.

00:04:42.180 Number two, the aforementioned Donald Trump, he's about to again become President of the United States of America.

00:04:49.660 That's happening in just a week.

00:04:51.020 It's been in all the papers.

00:04:53.060 It is Trump's extraordinary return that should be causing Pierre Polyev to reflect on his election strategy.

00:04:59.460 But so far, it hasn't.

00:05:02.300 In just the past few days, Trump has said he wants to use economic force, that's a quote, against Canada to make us, as he puts it, the 51st state.

00:05:11.300 He has referred to Trudeau as governor of that state.

00:05:14.440 He has mocked Polyev.

00:05:16.220 He has published maps in which Canada no longer exists, you know, kind of like the Israel-hating pro-Hamas people do, with their logos and signs and keychains showing just Palestine from the river to the sea, like that.

00:05:29.220 Simultaneously, Trump has threatened to use military force against Denmark and Greenland, who are members of NATO, which compelled Britain and France to actually state that they would not hesitate to defend Denmark and Greenland under Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.

00:05:46.600 Trump has also threatened military action against Panama, a sovereign state, and it is well known he has promised to impose 25% tariffs on all goods entering the United States from Canada and Mexico.

00:06:04.740 That last one, which, when, not if, when it happens, will result in 5 million Canadians potentially losing their jobs and throwing us into a recession, possibly worse.

00:06:18.760 Which is kind of economically, you know, it's kind of economically significant, isn't it?

00:06:24.700 Trudeau's carbon tax was poorly designed, poorly implemented, and poorly communicated.

00:06:29.240 Yes, it was wildly unpopular, as taxes always are.

00:06:34.220 But in comparative terms, the carbon tax is fucking dwarfed by the multiplicity of threats posed by Donald Trump.

00:06:42.820 Before he even assumes the office of president, Trump has effectively declared war on Canada and much of the world.

00:06:50.340 America, whether the Tories accept it or not, no longer considers us an ally.

00:06:55.820 That, perhaps, may have been why Pierre Polyev surrounded himself with 13 Canadian flags, one for each province and territory, at his press conference this week.

00:07:06.160 He, or someone around him, has possibly started to wonder if the ballot question just might not be the carbon tax anymore.

00:07:14.580 It might be the damage caused by the human Cheeto, as he calls him.

00:07:20.080 The contents of Polyev's press conference didn't inspire much confidence either.

00:07:25.840 In it, the Tory leader went after Trudeau's likeliest successors and launched yet another bumper sticker for the ages.

00:07:32.960 Just like Justin.

00:07:35.180 Polyev uttered those words like they had been handed to him on a barf bag five seconds before the press conference kicked off.

00:07:42.000 It sounded fucking ridiculous.

00:07:44.880 And it was off-message and off-target, too.

00:07:48.040 Canadian conservatives pride themselves on being closer to the ground than their pointed-headed, pointed-headed, pointed-headed, pointed-headed, anyway, liberal elite opponents, you know what I mean.

00:08:00.900 And there's truth to that.

00:08:02.880 So hustle down to your local Tim's, Tories, and listen to what the unapologetically Canadian Canadians are saying.

00:08:11.040 I did.

00:08:11.780 I did some research at my local coffee shop this week, and here's what one old guy said to us.

00:08:17.760 The biggest threat to this country in my lifetime is Donald Trump.

00:08:22.080 Who the hell is speaking for Canada when we are under attack?

00:08:27.560 Time for a change in strategy, Tories.

00:08:30.360 The world ain't waiting for y'all to keep up.

00:08:32.860 Soldiers hide under the family tree

00:08:45.880 You could be my bride

00:08:49.900 Cover yourself in cream

00:08:52.800 She's gonna turn away

00:08:56.540 So blow her in the sea

00:08:59.760 And I'll take your side

00:09:03.720 When you've got no phone machine

00:09:06.840 Shooting birds

00:09:17.840 Through a somber, bad memory

00:09:20.540 I fly to once

00:09:22.800 I fly to once

00:09:24.580 Being a documental freak

00:09:27.580 I squint her eyes

00:09:31.580 To see if she's somebody like me

00:09:34.500 And I'll take your side

00:09:38.320 When you've got no phone machine

00:09:41.500 miracle

00:09:42.340 Yeah

00:09:42.540 Shoot birds

00:09:42.660 Be перед or Municipal freak

00:09:42.980 I push you along

00:09:43.700 Just để

00:09:44.260 I push them in the sea

00:09:46.540 Here are some studio

00:09:48.560 And that's the best

00:09:48.860 You've got no Ron

00:09:49.340 girl

00:09:50.080 Kayla

00:09:51.120 And that's what game

00:09:52.040 And that's how I am

00:09:53.140 Loving here

00:09:53.520 Hold up

00:09:54.360 Leave

00:09:54.940 A hopeless

00:09:55.060 Gotta lose

00:09:55.760 Your life

00:09:56.040 Damn

00:09:56.740 She's gonna lose

00:09:58.140 Time for gas

00:10:00.140 Deco

00:10:00.180 Knife

00:10:00.620 To see if she was

00:10:01.220 Girl

00:10:01.500 得

00:10:03.380 Your life

00:10:05.480 Work

00:10:06.120 I should give it

00:10:06.440 I should give it

00:10:07.300 That's what we're winning

00:10:08.060 Do you

00:10:08.700 There's still

00:10:09.300 You need

00:10:10.300 To see that

00:10:11.380 It's what to see if it here

00:10:11.500 Don't just hide under your family tree

00:10:16.000 You could be my bride, cover your sound in cream

00:10:23.160 She'll always turn away, so ditch high in the sea

00:10:30.100 And I'll take your side when you've got no phone machine

00:10:37.220 Shoot your thoughts, take your faith

00:10:44.540 Shoot your thoughts, take your faith

00:10:51.420 This is CFRA Live, Sunday Political Panel

00:11:11.020 And just in time for all that political talk, it is the CFRA Live, Sunday Political Panel

00:11:16.380 Joining us this morning, he is the president at Traction Strategies, Carl Belanger

00:11:19.840 Carl, good morning

00:11:20.720 Good morning

00:11:21.720 Warren Kinsella is a strategist and post-media columnist

00:11:24.060 You can read his latest in the Toronto Sun

00:11:25.960 Good morning, Warren

00:11:26.660 Good morning

00:11:28.260 Tasha Carradine is a political columnist for the National Post

00:11:30.840 Writer for GZero Media and an author

00:11:32.820 Good morning, Tasha

00:11:33.780 Good morning

00:11:35.260 I wanted to get this out of the way

00:11:36.580 Warren, is there any truth to the rumor that you may be running for the Liberal Party of Canada?

00:11:41.020 Warren, 4pm

00:11:43.380 No, I've got more skeletons

00:11:46.160 I've got Jurassic Park in my closet

00:11:48.360 So, no, that ain't happening

00:11:51.480 Alright, you heard it here first, we've ruled it out

00:11:53.580 I guess we have seen this conversation kind of happen

00:11:56.140 Let's rewind way back to Monday

00:11:58.140 It feels like four weeks ago now at this point

00:12:00.180 But we did see Trudeau take a, you know, not necessarily a walk in the snow

00:12:03.580 But he definitely made a speech in the freezing cold

00:12:05.940 Warren, you kind of had predicted that this was going to happen eventually

00:12:09.440 Were you surprised that I guess it took this long?

00:12:11.380 I was surprised it took this long

00:12:13.880 But I wasn't surprised it happened

00:12:15.360 So I won a lot of bets

00:12:16.800 Particularly with colleagues at Post Media

00:12:19.220 So they're going to be paying up big time in the coming weeks

00:12:22.100 He had to go, you know

00:12:24.100 And it's like as many as 25 points behind

00:12:26.860 The writing's on the wall

00:12:28.380 And it's just a question of when he got to realize it

00:12:31.660 But it has been an extraordinary week

00:12:34.060 It's been the craziest week in Canadian politics

00:12:36.540 Since I can remember, what, the collapse of Meach Lake

00:12:39.780 Oka and the GST crisis

00:12:42.120 Like this is the nuttiest week any of us have ever seen

00:12:45.780 You got Trump threatening to use force against Canada

00:12:49.300 Turn us into the 51st state

00:12:51.380 You got NATO falling apart

00:12:53.020 You got a Liberal leadership candidate starting

00:12:55.500 With all the for sure candidates

00:12:57.980 You know, quite a few of them dropping out

00:13:00.020 Before they even got started

00:13:01.480 It is just wild what's taken place

00:13:06.000 But the Liberal Party still at the end of the day

00:13:08.640 Is way behind Pierre Polia's Conservatives

00:13:11.640 So that's their big problem

00:13:13.340 His big problem is he's fighting the last war

00:13:16.260 I'm going to call him this in Post Media this weekend

00:13:18.860 He's still going on about the carbon tax

00:13:21.920 And the carbon tax may have worked for him over the past two years

00:13:25.300 It's not going to work anymore

00:13:26.660 The ballot question is Donald Trump

00:13:29.560 Those tariffs are coming in one week's time

00:13:32.020 And we are looking at potentially millions of Canadians

00:13:35.220 Losing their livelihood

00:13:36.620 Millions

00:13:37.840 And the party that talks about it

00:13:41.080 Whether federally or provincially

00:13:42.880 The politicians who talk about it

00:13:44.540 And have a plan for it

00:13:45.760 They're the ones who are going to win

00:13:47.240 And Polia needs to wake up to the new reality

00:13:49.920 In the past week, the world has changed

00:13:52.720 And I want to get into the direction of both the Liberals

00:13:55.700 And where we're heading in an election campaign as well

00:13:57.660 Carl, just first on the PM's resignation on Monday

00:14:00.740 Like I said, it's felt like it's been so long now

00:14:02.700 Because there's been so much talk in between

00:14:04.340 But was this inevitable?

00:14:06.340 Did he have to go at this point?

00:14:09.360 Well, I think that before his attempt to shuffle his cabinet

00:14:13.120 And the spectacular resignation of Christian Freeland

00:14:15.800 He had every intention to stay

00:14:18.100 And I think that was the last drop

00:14:22.000 That made him need to go

00:14:25.300 The problem is that it's way too late

00:14:28.160 I mean, it took way too much time

00:14:30.640 And now you have a truncated Liberal leadership race

00:14:33.280 With serious candidates dropping left and right

00:14:35.940 And you're stuck with Frank Bayliss and Chandra Aria

00:14:38.880 In the running

00:14:40.080 That's what you've got right now

00:14:41.640 So it's going to be very difficult for the Liberals

00:14:44.980 To come back from behind at this stage

00:14:47.500 Not impossible

00:14:48.400 I mean, we've seen weird things happen in politics

00:14:51.160 Impossible things sometimes do happen

00:14:54.300 But considering the timeline

00:14:56.240 The state of the party

00:14:57.240 The time that was left by Trudeau

00:15:01.520 For these colleagues to salvage the ship

00:15:04.820 It's going to be a very difficult thing

00:15:07.380 But not impossible

00:15:09.780 Especially if the bad question changes

00:15:13.040 Like Warren just outlined

00:15:14.600 And if somebody is able to grasp

00:15:17.980 Canadian's imagination

00:15:19.020 To fight against Trump

00:15:20.460 Because he becomes the biggest threat

00:15:23.600 That this country has faced in a long time

00:15:26.180 Tasha, I guess from the political perspective

00:15:29.260 Of the Prime Minister this week

00:15:30.340 You know, did he have any other choice?

00:15:31.620 Particularly, as Carl said

00:15:32.700 After that resignation of Christian Freeland

00:15:34.700 It seems like that was the straw

00:15:36.060 That broke the camel's back here

00:15:37.300 Yeah, it broke the back

00:15:39.320 Because it broke it internally

00:15:40.580 And he said that in his farewell speech

00:15:43.880 Where he blamed everybody

00:15:44.960 Including Christopher Freeland

00:15:46.020 For his demise

00:15:47.320 Everyone except himself

00:15:48.560 He said the team's no longer with him

00:15:50.400 Basically

00:15:50.800 And that's what pushed him over the edge

00:15:52.820 Well, the team's no longer with him

00:15:54.580 Because he can't win the next election

00:15:57.120 And they're all going to lose their seats

00:15:59.100 And they're fed up

00:16:00.300 And so he, you know

00:16:01.460 That was the genesis

00:16:02.420 But he left that part out

00:16:03.620 So I think, yes

00:16:05.100 The dominoes fell when she quit

00:16:07.360 And they fell fast

00:16:08.620 And I won my bet too

00:16:09.960 Because as it turns out

00:16:11.200 Monday

00:16:11.680 I said he was going to quit

00:16:12.760 Before the holidays were over

00:16:14.080 Monday was a school holiday in Quebec

00:16:16.420 And my friend who I bet with

00:16:18.260 So I get my coffee

00:16:19.560 I'm very excited

00:16:20.460 Because I said he would go before then

00:16:23.040 So, yeah

00:16:24.360 I think

00:16:25.240 I think that

00:16:26.300 I agree with Warren

00:16:27.180 This has been

00:16:28.220 Four weeks in a week

00:16:29.600 Of politics

00:16:30.380 And

00:16:30.820 The ballot question will be

00:16:33.040 Who's Captain Canada?

00:16:34.780 Who can stand up against Donald Trump?

00:16:37.620 That does change things

00:16:39.300 For the conservatives

00:16:39.980 Because right now

00:16:41.260 You know

00:16:42.060 Pierre Polyev

00:16:42.820 Elon Musk's

00:16:43.900 Apparently new best political friend

00:16:45.600 And Elon Musk is

00:16:46.820 Still

00:16:47.660 So far

00:16:48.500 Donald Trump's best political friend

00:16:50.020 We'll see how that goes

00:16:50.960 But

00:16:52.000 The conservatives

00:16:53.240 Are

00:16:53.880 Much more aligned

00:16:55.600 I would say

00:16:56.520 Even though

00:16:56.960 Polyev has said

00:16:57.920 You know

00:16:58.160 Well

00:16:58.340 Canada is a sovereign country

00:16:59.460 He's made a couple of statements

00:17:00.800 To that effect

00:17:01.460 I think

00:17:03.380 In the imagination

00:17:04.280 Of people

00:17:04.780 It really depends

00:17:05.500 How things will go

00:17:06.240 With Trump

00:17:06.660 If he puts in tariffs

00:17:07.720 On day one

00:17:08.360 Which I assume he will

00:17:09.600 Then it's

00:17:11.140 It's war

00:17:11.800 So to speak

00:17:12.400 Melanie Jolie

00:17:13.020 Is already talking about

00:17:14.020 Cutting off energy exports

00:17:15.380 She said this

00:17:16.220 Yeah

00:17:16.380 Alberta's going to have

00:17:17.200 A mental breakdown

00:17:18.160 Daniel Smith's already said

00:17:19.380 They don't want to do that

00:17:20.360 So what are we going to use

00:17:22.300 As leverage against the Americans

00:17:23.820 When are we going to do that

00:17:26.040 And what's it going to involve

00:17:27.380 And how

00:17:28.220 How

00:17:28.780 How much of a war

00:17:30.780 Economic war

00:17:31.740 Will this be

00:17:33.000 How much hostility

00:17:33.800 Will there be

00:17:34.240 So

00:17:34.800 Who are we going to look to

00:17:36.320 To defend us

00:17:36.920 In that circumstance

00:17:37.840 That's going to be the issue

00:17:39.040 And I agree

00:17:39.640 Carbon tax

00:17:40.640 All that stuff

00:17:41.460 Is going to get subsumed

00:17:43.020 In the Trump tsunami

00:17:43.920 And it's

00:17:45.320 Obviously going to face

00:17:46.380 All parties here

00:17:47.000 As we head to a general election

00:17:48.360 You mentioned Melanie Jolie

00:17:49.480 Tasha

00:17:50.320 She has mentioned

00:17:50.840 That she's not going to be

00:17:51.600 Kicking around

00:17:52.080 In this particular

00:17:52.840 Leadership race

00:17:53.580 So far we've got

00:17:54.660 Mark Carney

00:17:55.140 And Krista Freeland

00:17:55.760 Kind of the early favourites

00:17:57.280 In leading the way

00:17:57.900 In terms of the numbers here

00:17:58.960 But of course

00:17:59.940 As you guys have already

00:18:01.260 Kind of alluded to

00:18:01.900 We've only got two real

00:18:02.900 People that have entered

00:18:04.220 The conversation right now

00:18:05.700 I suppose when it comes

00:18:06.600 To the liberal leadership race

00:18:08.280 Tasha

00:18:08.620 Where does the party

00:18:09.940 Kind of want to head from here

00:18:11.200 Is it kind of towards

00:18:12.760 Amor Carney

00:18:13.380 Or Freeland

00:18:13.900 Is it away from

00:18:14.840 The kind of past

00:18:15.860 Trudeau liberals

00:18:16.400 Where do you anticipate

00:18:17.720 They should actually

00:18:18.600 Be headed here

00:18:19.220 If they want to have

00:18:19.720 Some success

00:18:20.260 I think as far

00:18:21.840 From the Trudeau liberals

00:18:22.880 As possible

00:18:23.360 I don't know

00:18:23.720 Warren's not running

00:18:24.580 But maybe his ex-boss can

00:18:26.100 I mean Jean Chrétien

00:18:27.020 Is great

00:18:27.560 You know

00:18:28.820 He's already

00:18:29.180 He said that

00:18:31.220 The party should move

00:18:32.400 To the radical centre

00:18:33.840 I believe is the term he used

00:18:35.040 Yes

00:18:35.200 And I think

00:18:37.220 Yeah

00:18:37.500 I think that

00:18:38.300 That's where it's

00:18:39.200 Traditionally won

00:18:40.060 And I think

00:18:40.580 The leader has to be

00:18:42.220 The person

00:18:42.820 To get back

00:18:44.440 The voters they lost

00:18:45.640 And that's significant

00:18:46.700 Because those voters

00:18:47.820 Are disillusioned

00:18:50.000 Liberals

00:18:51.080 Who feel that

00:18:52.180 The party went too far

00:18:53.060 To the left

00:18:53.620 They are middle of the road

00:18:55.080 Voters

00:18:55.640 Maybe people who

00:18:56.420 Wouldn't even turn out

00:18:57.940 Because they feel

00:18:58.540 They have no one to vote for

00:18:59.680 You need to give them

00:19:00.880 Somebody

00:19:01.340 And so

00:19:02.020 Who is that

00:19:03.020 It's somebody I think

00:19:04.660 Who's not part of the machine

00:19:05.900 Right now

00:19:06.540 Because it's the machine

00:19:07.520 That elected

00:19:08.540 You know

00:19:09.160 That was so close to Trudeau

00:19:10.200 And Freeland

00:19:11.000 I think is very

00:19:11.900 Seemingly aligned with him

00:19:14.200 The Conservatives will demonize

00:19:15.840 Whoever it is

00:19:16.440 We know that

00:19:17.120 So that's not really a factor

00:19:18.540 I think it really is

00:19:19.880 Who can bring back

00:19:20.820 The voters they lost

00:19:21.720 Carbon tax

00:19:23.160 Carney has already become

00:19:24.100 The nickname

00:19:24.820 From the Conservative party

00:19:27.200 On Carney

00:19:27.640 On that point

00:19:28.720 I guess

00:19:29.020 Warren here

00:19:30.360 Just the idea of

00:19:31.580 You know

00:19:32.060 Is Mark Carney

00:19:32.640 Far enough away

00:19:33.380 From the current Trudeau

00:19:34.280 Machinery

00:19:35.080 As Tash is kind of

00:19:36.840 Alluding to here

00:19:37.500 Because he has been

00:19:38.220 Whispered to be

00:19:38.940 You know

00:19:39.460 Nearing

00:19:40.040 Coming to the Liberal party

00:19:41.420 For the last couple of years

00:19:42.200 Is that far enough away

00:19:43.580 Do you think

00:19:44.040 No

00:19:45.000 He's the Trudeau candidate

00:19:46.720 All of Team Trudeau

00:19:48.600 But

00:19:49.080 Telford

00:19:49.760 All of these people

00:19:50.680 Who've had to

00:19:51.640 Resign in scandal

00:19:53.140 Or been implicated by scandal

00:19:54.780 Are backing him

00:19:55.640 That's where all the Trudeau guys went

00:19:57.440 Because they're all mad

00:19:58.260 At Christopher Freeland

00:19:59.100 For what she did

00:20:00.340 At the start of December

00:20:01.500 So if you want more Trudeau

00:20:03.960 Vote for Mark Carney

00:20:05.020 But the

00:20:05.960 You know

00:20:06.260 The other problem

00:20:06.900 With Carney

00:20:07.460 Along with the fact

00:20:08.300 That he's never had to worry

00:20:09.300 About a mortgage payment

00:20:10.360 Or a rent payment

00:20:11.300 Or anything else

00:20:12.360 And doesn't understand

00:20:13.560 The life of your average Canadian

00:20:15.180 Is he's never held

00:20:16.760 Elected office

00:20:17.720 And so great

00:20:19.160 Is the arrogance

00:20:20.020 And the conceit

00:20:21.100 Of these people

00:20:21.960 Is they actually believe

00:20:23.700 That they can fashion

00:20:24.620 A prime minister

00:20:25.440 In a single week

00:20:26.500 Who's never even held

00:20:27.940 The position of dog catcher

00:20:29.820 That's what they think

00:20:31.060 They can do

00:20:31.660 That's how smart

00:20:32.500 They think they are

00:20:33.960 But it's not going to work

00:20:35.580 Like it's

00:20:36.160 For me

00:20:36.680 And I've said this to media

00:20:38.260 All this week

00:20:39.020 All of us have been doing

00:20:39.960 Lots of panel stuff

00:20:41.100 There's a lot of everything

00:20:42.100 That's going on

00:20:42.860 The Liberal Party

00:20:44.280 It's time for the Liberal Party

00:20:45.780 Like every other party

00:20:47.300 In the House of Commons

00:20:48.400 To have a woman as leader

00:20:51.340 Like enough is enough

00:20:53.060 And for them to be considering

00:20:55.140 This white guy

00:20:56.440 Who's never held

00:20:57.600 Elected office to me

00:20:59.060 Is ridiculous

00:20:59.900 It's either Freeland

00:21:01.400 Or well

00:21:02.240 Until Friday night

00:21:03.160 Christy Clark

00:21:03.960 That was it

00:21:05.680 And those were the choices

00:21:07.400 And it just amazes me

00:21:08.940 That the Liberal Party

00:21:10.320 Is again considering

00:21:11.400 Embracing another guy

00:21:13.580 And just quickly

00:21:15.200 Warned on too

00:21:15.800 On that radical center point

00:21:17.380 That Jean Chrétien

00:21:18.520 Mentioning that

00:21:19.240 With Vasco Capello

00:21:19.860 Is coming up later on

00:21:20.640 This morning

00:21:21.000 Is he right?

00:21:22.260 Do they need to

00:21:22.900 When they're trying

00:21:23.480 To right the ship here?

00:21:24.360 Do they need to head back

00:21:25.400 To kind of the center

00:21:26.360 Instead of the

00:21:27.020 Further left

00:21:28.120 They've kind of drifted

00:21:28.720 With this NDP coalition

00:21:29.760 Well this Chrétien guy

00:21:32.580 I've heard about him

00:21:33.220 You've heard about him

00:21:33.800 Yeah

00:21:34.040 Yeah

00:21:34.680 His op-ed

00:21:37.640 In a single day

00:21:38.980 Got more of a positive response

00:21:41.500 From Liberals I think

00:21:42.620 And Canadians

00:21:43.400 Than the Trudeau team

00:21:44.880 Has gotten in half a decade

00:21:46.300 Like it was so well received

00:21:48.800 I encourage everybody

00:21:49.740 To seek it out

00:21:51.020 And read it

00:21:51.580 And he's been talking to me

00:21:52.640 And other people

00:21:53.240 About this radical center point

00:21:55.340 For a long time

00:21:56.260 But essentially

00:21:57.240 What it means is

00:21:58.540 You know

00:21:59.200 Justin Trudeau

00:22:00.120 Became an adjunct

00:22:01.960 Or adjacent to the NDP

00:22:03.940 And more

00:22:04.580 You know

00:22:05.140 Congratulations to him

00:22:06.680 It worked for him

00:22:07.320 For three elections

00:22:08.160 It doesn't work anymore

00:22:09.940 He needs

00:22:11.220 The Liberal Party

00:22:12.040 Needs to be back

00:22:12.840 At the center

00:22:13.440 And that's one of

00:22:14.200 Chrétien's points

00:22:15.140 His other point was

00:22:16.380 You have to respond

00:22:17.580 To the thug

00:22:18.440 That is Donald Trump

00:22:19.540 With firmness

00:22:21.640 And strength

00:22:22.680 And that's something

00:22:23.740 That has not been evident

00:22:24.740 At the federal level

00:22:25.900 Over the

00:22:26.620 You know

00:22:26.980 Since Trump

00:22:27.540 Got his election win

00:22:29.700 On November 5th

00:22:30.700 So

00:22:30.920 You know

00:22:31.800 Everybody should read

00:22:32.600 What Chrétien said

00:22:33.360 Because I

00:22:33.900 I kind of like this

00:22:34.700 Chrétien guy

00:22:35.300 He's kind of smart

00:22:35.960 Up and comer

00:22:37.460 I think we're going to hear

00:22:38.120 More from him

00:22:38.640 Down the line

00:22:39.140 For sure

00:22:39.580 We have a draft

00:22:40.860 Chrétien movement

00:22:41.640 There you go

00:22:42.180 You can start that

00:22:42.920 We'll see how that goes

00:22:44.260 Yeah

00:22:44.520 Carl

00:22:45.360 Just on this idea

00:22:46.080 Of the Liberal leadership race

00:22:47.220 Here

00:22:47.380 I know

00:22:47.640 It seems like

00:22:49.000 You're kind of

00:22:49.380 Damned if you do

00:22:49.860 Damned if you don't

00:22:50.460 In terms of

00:22:50.940 Picking somebody

00:22:51.420 Close to the Trudeau

00:22:52.740 Liberals here

00:22:53.760 Is there somebody

00:22:54.780 That is above reproach

00:22:56.200 Here that is

00:22:56.740 The obvious choice

00:22:57.780 Or is there just

00:22:59.300 You know

00:22:59.660 A lot of pain ahead

00:23:00.340 From the Liberals

00:23:00.860 No matter who they choose

00:23:01.660 Oh there's going to be

00:23:02.880 A lot of pain

00:23:03.460 There is no

00:23:04.200 Obvious savior

00:23:05.140 Somebody that will

00:23:06.000 Refresh the brand

00:23:06.900 And turn it around

00:23:08.380 In such a quick time frame

00:23:09.400 I mean that's the issue

00:23:10.140 There's just no time

00:23:11.220 I mean unless

00:23:13.560 They somehow

00:23:14.180 Convince

00:23:14.760 Jagmeet Singh

00:23:15.300 And the NDP

00:23:15.840 To you know

00:23:16.840 Give them another lifeline

00:23:18.960 That's not impossible

00:23:19.880 I mean we've seen

00:23:20.720 Where things happen

00:23:21.540 And who knows

00:23:22.260 But if I were the NDP

00:23:23.860 I would pull the plug

00:23:24.680 Right away

00:23:25.140 Don't let the time

00:23:26.040 Don't give the time

00:23:26.700 To the new leader

00:23:27.420 To frame the debate

00:23:29.940 To reframe

00:23:31.020 And rebrand the party

00:23:32.260 So the situation

00:23:33.720 In which Liberals are

00:23:35.420 The way out

00:23:38.100 I mean I don't see

00:23:39.380 It right

00:23:39.980 Not with the list

00:23:41.400 Of candidates

00:23:41.800 That we've seen

00:23:42.440 I mean Mark Carney

00:23:43.740 Who's basically

00:23:44.540 Michael Ignatius

00:23:46.740 2.0

00:23:47.460 He didn't come back

00:23:48.360 For you

00:23:48.880 And then you have

00:23:50.320 Chrystia Freeland

00:23:51.040 Who you know

00:23:51.880 Despite the fact

00:23:52.580 That she brought

00:23:53.120 Down the ship

00:23:53.840 She was responsible

00:23:55.920 For all of

00:23:56.640 Three of those

00:23:56.940 Economic policies

00:23:57.800 All the way to the end

00:23:59.020 Including

00:23:59.540 The GST rebate

00:24:01.620 That we are getting

00:24:02.500 Right now

00:24:03.060 I mean she

00:24:03.540 Was part of that

00:24:04.540 And if they had

00:24:05.260 Found the dancing

00:24:06.560 Partners

00:24:07.020 We would also get

00:24:08.300 Those checks in the spring

00:24:09.880 Of course that's not

00:24:10.600 Happening anymore

00:24:11.260 But it's going to be

00:24:12.580 Really hard for her

00:24:13.340 To be the anti-Liberal

00:24:15.300 The anti-Trudeau candidate

00:24:17.480 Because she's been

00:24:18.380 So close to him

00:24:19.140 For so long

00:24:19.880 So it doesn't matter

00:24:20.860 And the last month

00:24:21.500 You betrayed him

00:24:22.200 You're still

00:24:23.440 The Trudeau candidate

00:24:24.200 So who is not

00:24:25.020 The Trudeau candidate

00:24:25.740 Well the one

00:24:26.720 That I thought

00:24:27.140 Would be that person

00:24:28.300 Was Christy Clark

00:24:29.540 But we know

00:24:31.040 What happened last week

00:24:32.000 With the stories

00:24:33.900 About her flirtation

00:24:35.120 With the conservative

00:24:35.660 Movement

00:24:36.740 And the fact

00:24:38.040 That she was a member

00:24:38.840 Of that party

00:24:39.480 To support

00:24:40.540 Josh Arrest

00:24:41.140 So it's a

00:24:42.480 It's a very

00:24:43.680 Very difficult

00:24:44.640 Moment right now

00:24:45.880 For the liberals

00:24:46.360 There's no obvious

00:24:47.420 Savior

00:24:47.780 And who knows

00:24:49.340 Maybe somebody

00:24:49.900 Is going to come out

00:24:50.540 Of left field

00:24:51.180 But right now

00:24:51.980 I don't see anyone

00:24:53.720 That would surprise

00:24:54.920 Canadians

00:24:55.420 And get them interested

00:24:57.700 And just quickly

00:24:58.740 Carl too

00:24:59.200 From the NDP perspective

00:25:00.280 Here

00:25:00.540 Would you recommend

00:25:01.580 You know

00:25:01.840 They just stay

00:25:02.380 As far away

00:25:02.940 From the Trudeau

00:25:03.380 Liberals as possible

00:25:04.020 It seems like

00:25:04.960 Although they got

00:25:05.540 Some of their

00:25:06.020 Mission done

00:25:06.880 In terms of

00:25:07.340 Some of the policies

00:25:07.980 That they got passed

00:25:08.760 It seems like

00:25:09.200 They are kind of

00:25:10.000 Paying for their

00:25:10.680 Connection to the

00:25:11.320 Trudeau Liberals too

00:25:12.040 So if you're the NDP

00:25:13.260 Where do you go

00:25:13.820 Right now?

00:25:15.460 Well the one thing

00:25:16.280 Is that you have to

00:25:17.280 You know

00:25:18.260 Understand that the

00:25:19.660 The opportunity

00:25:21.320 That's been given

00:25:21.980 To you

00:25:22.500 With Justin Trudeau

00:25:24.320 Falling apart

00:25:25.080 Has disappeared

00:25:26.600 Right?

00:25:26.980 They should have

00:25:27.880 Brought him down

00:25:28.420 When they had a chance

00:25:29.200 Now

00:25:29.860 The one thing

00:25:30.900 That they got going

00:25:31.760 For him

00:25:32.020 Is that

00:25:32.280 You've been talking

00:25:32.980 About political price

00:25:33.920 The NDP

00:25:34.820 The NDP

00:25:34.840 Has not really

00:25:35.420 Paid a political

00:25:36.180 Price in the polls

00:25:36.960 They have not

00:25:37.400 They've not

00:25:38.160 Paid that price

00:25:39.100 They held steady

00:25:40.340 Between 15 and 20%

00:25:41.900 For the past couple

00:25:42.640 Of years

00:25:43.080 The Liberals

00:25:44.560 Have been paying

00:25:45.060 The price

00:25:45.440 For their

00:25:45.760 Association

00:25:46.320 With the NDP

00:25:46.860 And those voters

00:25:47.520 Have gone to the

00:25:48.140 Conservatives

00:25:48.580 So it will depend

00:25:50.000 Who the next leader is

00:25:51.100 Will it be a radical

00:25:52.700 Center

00:25:53.120 A little more

00:25:53.640 To the right

00:25:54.160 That would be logical

00:25:55.540 The pool of voters

00:25:56.640 That have abandoned

00:25:57.220 The Liberals

00:25:57.760 Have gone to the

00:25:58.500 Conservatives

00:25:58.960 Not to the NDP

00:25:59.760 But the Liberal

00:26:01.360 Leasy approach

00:26:02.160 Often

00:26:02.700 When it comes to

00:26:03.740 Election time

00:26:04.640 Is appeal to

00:26:06.040 NDP voters

00:26:06.600 To stop the

00:26:07.400 Evil Conservatives

00:26:08.420 But I'm not sure

00:26:09.800 It's going to work

00:26:10.360 This time

00:26:10.860 Because people are

00:26:11.580 So fed up

00:26:12.460 With the

00:26:13.000 Liberals

00:26:13.600 That if they

00:26:15.060 Had to lose

00:26:15.580 NDP support

00:26:17.040 To the NDP

00:26:17.580 It would have

00:26:18.120 Happened by now

00:26:18.740 And we'll see

00:26:20.080 How the Liberals

00:26:20.520 React

00:26:20.780 Because yeah

00:26:21.100 That is kind of

00:26:21.780 The typical

00:26:22.080 Liberal way

00:26:22.660 Is kind of

00:26:23.060 Steal the NDP's

00:26:23.800 Lunch during

00:26:24.180 The election campaign

00:26:24.900 We'll see

00:26:25.320 How that kind of

00:26:26.120 Works this time

00:26:26.800 Around

00:26:27.060 When it comes

00:26:27.860 To the general

00:26:28.260 Election

00:26:28.600 Attach

00:26:29.040 I'll just

00:26:29.320 Start with you

00:26:29.740 Here trying

00:26:30.120 To get some

00:26:30.500 Talk about

00:26:31.020 Kind of

00:26:31.480 Where we're

00:26:31.820 Headed here

00:26:32.420 Because we are

00:26:33.280 Going to have

00:26:33.620 An election

00:26:33.940 Campaign eventually

00:26:34.940 I was looking

00:26:35.600 First numbers

00:26:36.180 First blush

00:26:36.740 From abacus

00:26:37.340 Here

00:26:37.560 I have the

00:26:38.440 Conservatives

00:26:38.800 I think

00:26:39.060 Around 47%

00:26:40.320 At last check

00:26:41.200 You know

00:26:41.720 Paulie have

00:26:42.200 Clearly

00:26:42.580 In cruise

00:26:43.160 Control here

00:26:43.820 He'd probably

00:26:44.400 Be better

00:26:44.820 Served

00:26:45.120 Just to

00:26:45.380 Not say

00:26:45.720 Anything

00:26:46.020 But what's

00:26:47.080 His biggest

00:26:47.440 Challenge

00:26:47.880 Now trying

00:26:48.480 To appeal

00:26:49.460 In the next

00:26:49.940 General election

00:26:50.520 Trying to

00:26:50.860 Appeal to

00:26:51.200 Voters

00:26:51.540 Well I

00:26:53.500 Mean

00:26:53.720 His challenge

00:26:55.260 He can afford

00:26:56.180 To lose

00:26:56.880 7% of the

00:26:58.680 Vote and still

00:26:59.180 Former government

00:26:59.800 So he's

00:27:00.880 You know

00:27:01.340 He's in

00:27:01.780 The pull

00:27:02.080 Position

00:27:02.520 I think

00:27:04.240 That it

00:27:04.760 Really

00:27:05.200 Depends who

00:27:06.940 The liberal

00:27:07.520 Leader is

00:27:08.720 If it is

00:27:09.840 Christy Freeland

00:27:10.540 He just

00:27:10.900 Stays on

00:27:11.300 Message

00:27:11.740 If he's

00:27:12.640 Anyone from

00:27:13.060 The cabinet

00:27:13.440 He stays

00:27:14.000 On message

00:27:14.420 They were

00:27:16.020 Part of it

00:27:16.440 They already

00:27:16.960 Said that

00:27:17.400 It's

00:27:17.800 Just like

00:27:19.540 Justin

00:27:19.920 I think

00:27:20.240 Is the

00:27:20.460 Slogan

00:27:20.760 They're

00:27:20.920 Having

00:27:21.140 For the

00:27:21.680 People

00:27:21.920 That

00:27:22.320 Are

00:27:22.540 Running

00:27:22.720 That

00:27:23.300 Wouldn't

00:27:23.500 Apply to

00:27:23.940 Someone

00:27:24.120 From the

00:27:24.420 Outside

00:27:24.900 Like

00:27:25.560 Christy

00:27:26.300 Clark

00:27:26.580 Who

00:27:27.120 Misspoke

00:27:28.280 I think

00:27:28.600 That was

00:27:28.840 A terrible

00:27:29.560 Choice of

00:27:30.120 Words

00:27:30.360 I think

00:27:30.940 She could

00:27:31.200 No

00:27:31.480 Honestly I

00:27:32.340 Think that

00:27:32.700 That actually

00:27:33.160 The irony

00:27:33.600 There

00:27:33.860 I'll just

00:27:34.100 Say for

00:27:34.340 One moment

00:27:34.820 Is that

00:27:35.560 She backed

00:27:35.980 A candidate

00:27:36.500 Jean Charest

00:27:37.000 Who was

00:27:37.360 Consistently

00:27:37.860 Accused

00:27:38.440 Of being

00:27:39.140 A liberal

00:27:39.600 People

00:27:40.300 Do not

00:27:40.500 Remember

00:27:40.720 This

00:27:40.960 That was

00:27:41.380 The irony

00:27:41.880 She accused

00:27:42.480 Him

00:27:43.000 And

00:27:43.260 And

00:27:44.360 And that

00:27:45.460 And now

00:27:46.060 She

00:27:46.380 Instead of

00:27:47.240 Owning it

00:27:47.740 And saying

00:27:48.120 You know

00:27:48.360 What

00:27:48.520 Yeah I

00:27:48.820 Backed him

00:27:49.380 And because

00:27:49.860 He represented

00:27:50.420 That radical

00:27:50.900 She should

00:27:51.280 Have owned

00:27:51.660 It

00:27:51.880 And that

00:27:52.360 Was

00:27:52.560 That's

00:27:53.080 Where she

00:27:53.300 Made her

00:27:53.600 Error

00:27:53.820 Not by

00:27:54.240 By supporting

00:27:55.260 Him

00:27:55.500 Or even

00:27:55.760 Joining

00:27:56.060 The

00:27:56.240 Conservatives

00:27:56.660 I don't

00:27:56.940 See that

00:27:57.220 As a

00:27:57.400 Big deal

00:27:57.780 Honestly

00:27:58.340 For

00:27:58.700 Someone who

00:27:59.460 Was a

00:27:59.680 Friend of

00:28:00.020 His

00:28:00.240 But the

00:28:00.960 Way she

00:28:01.260 Handled

00:28:01.540 It

00:28:01.720 Was really

00:28:02.420 Problematic

00:28:03.060 So

00:28:03.460 They'll

00:28:04.580 You know

00:28:05.000 The knives

00:28:05.940 Will be

00:28:06.160 Out

00:28:06.340 For

00:28:06.520 Her

00:28:06.880 Carnie

00:28:07.740 The knives

00:28:08.160 Are out

00:28:08.640 Though

00:28:09.400 With Carnie

00:28:09.880 It's

00:28:10.080 Interesting

00:28:10.380 Because

00:28:10.980 Yeah

00:28:11.800 He has

00:28:12.240 People

00:28:12.540 In his

00:28:12.900 Tent

00:28:13.080 Who are

00:28:13.500 Trudeau

00:28:13.820 People

00:28:14.120 The average

00:28:14.600 Person on

00:28:15.040 The street

00:28:15.340 Doesn't

00:28:15.640 Care

00:28:15.920 Who his

00:28:16.500 People

00:28:16.700 In his

00:28:16.940 Tent

00:28:17.300 Are

00:28:17.540 They

00:28:18.300 Care

00:28:18.620 What

00:28:18.900 He'll

00:28:19.220 Do

00:28:19.520 For

00:28:19.720 The

00:28:19.860 Country

00:28:20.400 And

00:28:21.060 That's

00:28:21.400 Where

00:28:21.480 It

00:28:21.520 Comes

00:28:21.660 Down

00:28:21.840 To

00:28:21.940 What

00:28:22.040 Warren

00:28:22.320 Said

00:28:22.700 Polly

00:28:23.680 Have

00:28:23.880 To

00:28:24.360 Pivot

00:28:24.880 To

00:28:25.360 Being

00:28:25.700 Captain

00:28:26.080 Canada

00:28:26.500 That's

00:28:26.940 The

00:28:27.060 Pivot

00:28:27.360 It's

00:28:27.760 Standing

00:28:28.360 Up

00:28:28.600 For

00:28:28.760 Canada

00:28:29.140 And

00:28:35.940 Going

00:28:36.080 To

00:28:36.140 Do

00:28:36.280 X

00:28:36.660 Going

00:28:36.940 Forward

00:28:37.420 So

00:28:38.000 He's

00:28:38.180 Got

00:28:38.300 To

00:28:38.380 Have

00:28:38.540 That

00:28:38.800 Because

00:28:39.040 That's

00:28:39.380 Going

00:28:39.480 To

00:28:39.500 Be

00:28:39.580 The

00:28:39.720 Battle

00:28:39.980 Line

00:28:40.260 And

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00:28:41.300 Other

00:28:41.420 Person

00:28:41.760 Has

00:28:42.020 A

00:28:42.140 Better

00:28:42.360 Plan

00:28:42.740 Or

00:28:42.900 Looks

00:28:43.080 Like

00:28:43.220 They're

00:28:43.400 A

00:28:43.500 Tougher

00:28:43.740 Bird

00:28:44.140 That's

00:28:45.580 I think

00:28:45.820 What

00:28:45.980 Will

00:28:46.140 Appeal

00:28:46.460 To

00:28:46.620 Those

00:28:46.840 Voters

00:28:47.200 Who

00:28:47.360 Are

00:28:47.500 Scared

00:28:47.800 Now

00:28:47.980 For

00:28:48.120 Their

00:28:48.240 Jobs

00:28:48.620 And

00:28:48.800 Scared

00:28:49.000 For

00:28:49.140 The

00:28:49.220 Future

00:28:49.400 Of

00:28:49.560 The

00:28:49.580 Country

00:28:49.840 And

00:28:51.060 Warren

00:28:51.340 Pierre's

00:28:51.780 Biggest

00:28:52.020 Challenge

00:28:52.320 Or

00:28:53.200 I guess

00:28:53.960 The

00:28:54.260 Biggest

00:28:54.680 Pitfall

00:28:55.040 That

00:28:55.200 He

00:28:55.300 Could

00:28:55.460 Fall

00:28:55.680 Into

00:28:55.900 His

00:28:56.080 Biggest

00:28:56.320 Risk

00:28:56.580 That

00:28:56.740 He

00:28:56.820 Could

00:28:56.960 Fall

00:28:57.180 Into

00:28:57.440 Well

00:28:58.800 He's

00:28:59.220 Always

00:28:59.460 Auditioning

00:29:00.120 For

00:29:00.240 The

00:29:00.340 Job

00:29:00.620 He's

00:29:00.820 Already

00:29:01.060 Got

00:29:01.500 He's

00:29:02.440 Always

00:29:02.720 Fighting

00:29:03.140 The

00:29:03.380 Last

00:29:03.740 War

00:29:04.160 It's

00:29:05.300 Like

00:29:05.520 Everything

00:29:06.100 Has

00:29:06.480 Changed

00:29:07.120 In

00:29:07.460 The

00:29:07.580 Past

00:29:07.880 Few

00:29:08.120 Days

00:29:08.560 And

00:29:09.020 Everybody

00:29:09.500 From

00:29:10.160 Jean

00:29:10.480 Chrétien

00:29:10.940 To

00:29:11.160 Stephen

00:29:11.500 Harper

00:29:11.900 Get

00:29:12.360 It

00:29:12.620 Except

00:29:13.220 For

00:29:13.500 Pierre

00:29:13.780 Polly

00:29:14.120 It's

00:29:15.520 Like

00:29:15.760 Dude

00:29:16.340 It's

00:29:16.760 Not

00:29:16.940 The

00:29:17.140 Carbon

00:29:17.460 Tax

00:29:17.920 Anymore

00:29:18.440 It's

00:29:19.180 The

00:29:19.320 Mango

00:29:19.680 Mussolini

00:29:20.440 Who's

00:29:21.160 Threatening

00:29:21.760 To

00:29:22.200 Take

00:29:22.940 Over

00:29:23.440 Our

00:29:23.760 Country

00:29:24.280 To

00:29:24.640 Use

00:29:24.920 Economic

00:29:25.620 Force

00:29:26.180 Against

00:29:26.800 Our

00:29:27.020 Country

00:29:27.440 The

00:29:28.020 Guy

00:29:28.240 Who's

00:29:28.560 Saying

00:29:28.860 That

00:29:29.060 He's

00:29:29.400 Going

00:29:29.640 To

00:29:29.880 Attack

00:29:30.400 Militarily

00:29:31.260 A

00:29:31.880 Member

00:29:32.320 Of

00:29:32.680 NATO

00:29:33.120 Which

00:29:34.140 Forced

00:29:34.600 Britain

00:29:35.040 And

00:29:35.260 France

00:29:35.660 To

00:29:35.880 Actually

00:29:36.460 Publicly

00:29:37.220 State

00:29:37.680 That

00:29:38.140 They

00:29:38.260 Would

00:29:38.460 Respond

00:29:38.980 To

00:29:39.180 That

00:29:39.460 Like

00:29:40.360 Those

00:29:40.620 Are

00:29:40.780 All

00:29:40.960 Big

00:29:41.280 Things

00:29:41.680 That

00:29:41.880 Have

00:29:42.020 Happened

00:29:42.380 In

00:29:42.480 The

00:29:42.600 Past

00:29:42.860 Few

00:29:43.080 Days

00:29:43.580 And

00:29:44.160 This

00:29:44.420 Guy

00:29:44.700 And

00:29:44.820 His

00:29:44.960 Team

00:29:45.260 Are

00:29:45.520 Completely

00:29:46.440 Clueless

00:29:47.540 And

00:29:48.200 You

00:29:48.800 Can

00:29:49.000 See

00:29:49.260 They

00:29:49.500 Cannot

00:29:49.920 Figure

00:29:50.240 Out

00:29:50.540 How

00:29:50.720 To

00:29:50.880 React

00:29:51.420 So

00:29:52.060 They

00:29:52.240 Hand

00:29:52.600 Him

00:29:52.800 Some

00:29:53.040 Slogan

00:29:53.500 On

00:29:53.660 A

00:29:53.800 Barf

00:29:54.140 Bag

00:29:54.360 Before

00:29:54.660 He

00:29:54.840 Goes

00:29:55.040 Out

00:29:55.260 On

00:29:55.440 Stage

00:29:55.860 Saying

00:29:56.420 They're

00:29:56.660 Just

00:29:57.060 Like

00:29:57.380 Justin

00:29:57.900 It's

00:29:58.540 Like

00:29:58.700 Okay

00:29:58.980 Well

00:29:59.220 You

00:29:59.380 Know

00:29:59.480 That's

00:29:59.760 Nice

00:30:00.000 Bumper

00:30:00.500 Sticker

00:30:01.060 But

00:30:01.600 What

00:30:01.840 Is

00:30:02.040 Actually

00:30:02.480 Your

00:30:02.760 Plan

00:30:03.280 Doug

00:30:03.640 Ford

00:30:03.960 Got

00:30:04.280 One

00:30:04.680 Legault

00:30:05.260 Got

00:30:05.620 One

00:30:05.940 Dominic

00:30:06.400 Leblom

00:30:07.020 You

00:30:07.260 Know

00:30:07.360 All

00:30:07.520 These

00:30:07.700 Other

00:30:07.880 Guys

00:30:08.120 Have

00:30:08.280 A

00:30:08.380 Plan

00:30:08.580 What's

00:30:09.140 Your

00:30:09.260 Plan

00:30:09.600 You're

00:30:09.860 The

00:30:09.960 One

00:30:10.100 Who

00:30:10.180 Wants

00:30:10.340 To

00:30:10.440 Be

00:30:10.560 Prime

00:30:10.860 Minister

00:30:11.240 Tell

00:30:11.920 Us

00:30:12.080 What

00:30:12.260 You're

00:30:12.460 Going

00:30:12.600 To

00:30:12.700 Do

00:30:13.040 And

00:30:13.480 He

00:30:13.580 Hasn't

00:30:13.880 Done

00:30:14.120 It

00:30:14.380 Carl

00:30:15.860 Last

00:30:16.220 Word

00:30:16.400 To

00:30:16.540 You

00:30:16.660 What's

00:30:17.040 The

00:30:17.160 Biggest

00:30:17.400 Challenge

00:30:17.720 You

00:30:17.860 Think

00:30:18.020 Facing

00:30:18.320 Pierre

00:30:18.520 Paulie

00:30:18.820 Moving

00:30:19.080 Ahead

00:30:19.360 Into

00:30:19.580 A

00:30:19.860 General

00:30:20.240 Election

00:30:20.640 Here

00:30:20.860 With

00:30:21.080 Canadians

00:30:21.740 Looking

00:30:22.140 Well

00:30:22.940 As

00:30:23.380 Always

00:30:23.760 It's

00:30:24.360 Often

00:30:24.700 Internally

00:30:25.320 That

00:30:25.500 You

00:30:25.600 Have

00:30:25.720 To

00:30:25.820 Look

00:30:26.080 Where

00:30:26.360 The

00:30:26.480 Problems

00:30:26.840 Could

00:30:26.960 Happen

00:30:28.000 And

00:30:28.860 One

00:30:29.060 Of

00:30:29.160 The

00:30:29.260 Reason

00:30:29.480 Why

00:30:29.820 I

00:30:29.960 Think

00:30:30.120 Poiliev

00:30:30.500 Is

00:30:30.700 Not

00:30:30.900 More

00:30:31.140 Forceful

00:30:31.600 About

00:30:31.860 Trump

00:30:32.220 Is

00:30:32.420 Because

00:30:32.800 He's

00:30:33.560 Got

00:30:33.700 A lot

00:30:33.920 Of

00:30:34.080 MAGA

00:30:34.380 Type

00:30:34.780 In

00:30:35.100 His

00:30:35.260 Party

00:30:35.600 Got

00:30:36.140 Him

00:30:36.320 Elect

00:30:36.660 A

00:30:36.840 Leader

00:30:37.080 The

00:30:38.080 Conservative

00:30:38.440 Party

00:30:38.720 Is

00:30:38.960 Not

00:30:39.220 Conservative

00:30:39.640 Your

00:30:39.920 Grandfather

00:30:40.560 It's

00:30:41.160 Not

00:30:41.320 The

00:30:41.440 Conservatives

00:30:42.320 And

00:30:42.560 Josh

00:30:42.920 I

00:30:43.060 Found

00:30:43.380 That

00:30:43.540 Out

00:30:43.720 In

00:30:43.840 The

00:30:43.940 Leadership

00:30:44.200 You

00:30:45.340 Got

00:30:45.740 A lot

00:30:46.100 Of

00:30:46.220 People

00:30:46.560 Who

00:30:46.980 Are

00:30:47.120 Radical

00:30:47.760 In

00:30:47.960 The

00:30:48.040 Conservative

00:30:48.320 Party

00:30:48.620 Right

00:30:48.860 Now

00:30:49.060 They

00:30:49.220 Are

00:30:49.300 On

00:30:49.380 The

00:30:49.500 Extreme

00:30:49.860 Of

00:30:50.040 The

00:30:50.140 Right

00:30:50.340 Way

00:30:50.520 Of

00:30:50.660 The

00:30:50.780 Legislative

00:30:51.240 Spectrum

00:30:51.680 And

00:30:52.380 So

00:30:53.080 He

00:30:53.460 Has

00:30:53.720 To

00:30:53.840 Tread

00:30:54.040 Carefully

00:30:54.540 And

00:30:54.840 I

00:30:54.980 Think

00:30:55.180 The

00:30:55.900 Biggest

00:30:56.180 Problem

00:30:56.420 He

00:30:56.580 Has

00:30:56.780 Is

00:30:56.920 That

00:30:57.260 And

00:30:58.040 To

00:30:58.240 Compound

00:30:58.580 That

00:30:58.960 He

00:31:00.400 Has

00:31:00.580 A lot

00:31:00.960 Of

00:31:01.100 People

00:31:01.440 Who

00:31:02.720 Will

00:31:03.060 Be

00:31:03.220 Conservative

00:31:03.520 Candidates

00:31:04.100 Who

00:31:04.860 Will

00:31:05.040 Say

00:31:05.260 Outrage

00:31:05.640 Things

00:31:06.140 In

00:31:06.340 The

00:31:06.440 Coming

00:31:06.620 Weeks

00:31:07.260 And

00:31:07.420 Months

00:31:07.880 The

00:31:08.400 Bozo

00:31:08.780 Eruption

00:31:09.160 As

00:31:09.400 We

00:31:09.560 Used

00:31:09.820 To

00:31:09.960 Call

00:31:10.180 Them

00:31:10.340 He

00:31:11.260 Is

00:31:11.360 Going

00:31:11.480 To

00:31:11.560 Deal

00:31:12.080 With

00:31:12.260 That

00:31:12.460 Too

00:31:12.780 And

00:31:13.500 If

00:31:13.740 You

00:31:13.900 Think

00:31:14.180 He

00:31:14.380 Is

00:31:14.520 Immune

00:31:14.920 To

00:31:15.200 Falling

00:31:16.020 Down

00:31:16.200 In

00:31:16.300 The

00:31:16.400 Polls

00:31:16.700 You

00:31:16.840 Are

00:31:16.980 Wrong

00:31:17.280 Things

00:31:17.720 Can

00:31:17.920 Shift

00:31:18.140 Quickly

00:31:18.560 Especially

00:31:19.400 If

00:31:19.760 He

00:31:19.840 Doesn't

00:31:20.060 Realize

00:31:20.400 That

00:31:20.580 Most

00:31:20.960 Voters

00:31:23.460 Most

00:31:23.820 Canadians

00:31:24.320 Are

00:31:24.540 Not

00:31:25.580 In

00:31:26.180 Tune

00:31:26.380 With

00:31:26.560 Politics

00:31:27.120 That

00:31:27.380 Much

00:31:27.660 Are

00:31:28.280 Seeing

00:31:28.680 Donald

00:31:28.980 Trump

00:31:29.280 As

00:31:29.460 The

00:31:29.560 Biggest

00:31:29.820 Threat

00:31:30.100 And

00:31:30.320 It's

00:31:30.500 True

00:31:36.620 That

00:31:36.760 Standard

00:31:37.080 Here

00:31:37.300 For

00:31:37.440 The

00:31:37.520 Next

00:31:37.660 Few

00:31:37.840 Months

00:31:38.160 But

00:31:38.400 Carl

00:31:38.920 Warren

00:31:39.280 And

00:31:39.460 Tasha

00:31:39.680 Thank

00:31:39.900 You

00:31:40.000 So

00:31:40.140 Much

00:31:40.300 For

00:31:40.420 Joining

00:31:40.600 Me

00:31:40.720 This

00:31:40.860 Morning

00:31:41.040 I

00:31:41.220 Really

00:31:41.420 Appreciate

00:31:41.800 It

00:31:41.960 Have

00:31:42.080 A

00:31:42.160 Great

00:31:42.340 Sunday

00:31:42.640 Thank

00:31:43.380 You

00:31:43.600 You've

00:31:44.760 Been

00:31:44.820 Listening

00:31:45.060 To

00:31:45.220 The

00:31:45.340 President

00:31:45.620 At

00:31:45.800 Traction

00:31:46.080 Strategies

00:31:46.600 He

00:31:46.720 Is

00:31:46.820 Carl

00:31:47.080 Belanger

00:31:47.520 Strategist

00:31:48.240 And

00:31:48.340 Post

00:31:48.500 Media

00:31:48.700 Columnist

00:31:49.120 Warren

00:31:49.320 Can

00:31:49.500 You can

00:31:49.940 Hear

00:31:50.080 His

00:31:50.280 Latest

00:31:51.460 In

00:31:52.060 The

00:31:52.160 Toronto

00:31:52.400 Sun

00:31:52.720 This

00:31:52.900 Weekend

00:31:53.220 And

00:31:53.620 Tasha

00:31:53.840 Carrot

00:31:54.140 In

00:31:54.240 Columnist

00:31:54.680 For

00:31:54.820 The

00:32:17.000 National

00:32:19.240 Post

00:32:19.500 Writer

00:32:20.440 For

00:32:20.800 GZERO

00:32:24.820 Everybody

00:32:25.340 Thinks

00:32:25.940 He

00:32:26.100 Look

00:32:26.320 A

00:32:26.460 Bit

00:32:26.660 Like

00:32:26.900 James

00:32:27.220 Bond

00:32:27.660 Everybody

00:32:28.540 Thinks

00:32:29.160 He

00:32:29.300 Look

00:32:29.540 A

00:32:29.660 Bit

00:32:29.860 Like

00:32:30.100 James

00:32:30.440 Bond

00:32:30.860 Everybody

00:32:31.740 Thinks

00:32:32.360 He

00:32:32.480 Look

00:32:32.760 A

00:32:32.860 Bit

00:32:33.080 Like

00:32:33.300 James

00:32:33.660 Bond

00:32:34.040 James

00:32:34.480 Bond

00:32:34.900 Ain't

00:32:35.300 Any

00:32:35.700 Kind

00:32:36.020 Of

00:32:36.220 Role

00:32:36.940 Model

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00:32:38.100 Buy

00:32:38.500 Dirty

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00:32:45.460 Land

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00:32:49.080 Bond

00:32:49.540 Everybody

00:32:51.200 Thinks

00:32:51.800 He

00:32:51.980 Look

00:32:52.200 A

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00:32:52.540 Like

00:32:52.780 James

00:32:53.080 Bond

00:32:53.560 Everybody

00:32:54.440 Thinks

00:32:55.020 They

00:32:55.180 Look

00:32:55.420 A

00:32:55.600 Bit

00:32:55.760 Like

00:32:56.000 James

00:32:56.320 Bond

00:32:56.740 Everybody

00:32:57.620 Thinks

00:32:58.240 They

00:32:58.400 Look

00:32:58.600 A

00:32:58.780 Bit

00:32:58.940 Like

00:32:59.220 James

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00:33:00.320 Bond

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00:33:02.020 Role

00:33:02.740 Model

00:33:24.440 Says

00:33:41.040 dentro

00:33:41.620 He

00:33:43.680 Captain

00:33:44.740 Two

00:33:45.180 dos

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00:33:48.600 Two

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00:33:50.440 배

00:33:50.900 One

00:33:50.920 rage

00:33:51.480 One

00:33:51.840 I like casinos

00:33:56.480 Like James

00:33:58.060 I like tuxedos

00:33:59.880 Like James

00:34:01.260 I like women

00:34:02.880 Like James

00:34:04.500 I like swimming

00:34:06.080 Like James

00:34:07.560 And I love Shirley Bassey

00:34:09.500 Like James

00:34:10.800 And I hate the baddies

00:34:12.720 Like James

00:34:14.120 And I simply couldn't give a shit

00:34:16.480 About the consequences

00:34:18.740 Of my James Bond wit

00:34:20.540 Everybody thinks I look a bit like James Bond

00:34:26.620 Everybody thinks I look a bit like James Bond

00:34:29.800 Everybody thinks I look a bit like James Bond

00:34:32.900 James Bond in the quantum of solace

00:34:36.320 And we're back

00:34:37.440 And my friend Brian Lilly

00:34:39.500 One week ago you and I said

00:34:42.620 It may be a busy week

00:34:44.220 Maybe Trudeau's leaving tomorrow

00:34:46.200 What a fucking week

00:34:48.120 It's been absolutely crazy

00:34:49.700 So maybe to start things off

00:34:51.460 Just like very generally

00:34:52.840 How have you as a journalist

00:34:55.060 As a guy

00:34:55.820 As a Canadian

00:34:56.520 How do you feel at the end of this week

00:34:59.040 This extraordinary number of events

00:35:01.000 That have taken place within it

00:35:02.560 Well

00:35:03.640 It's shocking that it was just a week ago

00:35:08.040 It feels like nine months ago

00:35:09.780 You know

00:35:11.540 A week ago I was sitting in warm sunny California

00:35:14.860 I was still there when Trudeau resigned

00:35:17.420 I've only been back a few days

00:35:19.320 And so much has happened

00:35:21.160 We've gone from

00:35:23.820 Saying there should be an election

00:35:26.440 To the Prime Minister resigning

00:35:28.280 Putting off an election

00:35:29.680 For a parliament

00:35:30.720 And now

00:35:33.680 A full blown liberal leadership race

00:35:36.580 Including rules

00:35:37.600 That you could drive a truck through

00:35:39.300 And that are ripe for foreign interference

00:35:41.420 So it's

00:35:42.380 It's been an exhausting week

00:35:44.400 Yeah

00:35:44.960 No it truly has

00:35:46.260 What do you think

00:35:47.500 You know what's a big

00:35:48.500 Well I guess

00:35:49.080 That's a dumb question

00:35:50.380 You know what's a bigger deal

00:35:51.480 Trudeau leaving

00:35:52.160 Or Trump making threats

00:35:53.440 Or maybe they're all kind of

00:35:55.240 Stitched together

00:35:56.140 Trump's threats

00:35:58.500 Are why I'm so angry

00:35:59.460 About how

00:36:00.120 Trudeau left

00:36:01.240 Yeah

00:36:01.720 It's no secret

00:36:03.660 I'm not a fan of the guy

00:36:04.820 But the fact that he prorogues parliament

00:36:07.240 Announces his resignation

00:36:09.760 But doesn't leave

00:36:10.880 Doesn't call an election

00:36:12.220 So that we have a new leader

00:36:13.360 With an actual mandate

00:36:14.760 And instead looks after himself

00:36:16.800 And the Liberal Party first

00:36:18.320 You know

00:36:19.420 The Liberals will elect

00:36:20.600 A new leader on March 9th

00:36:22.400 Parliament will

00:36:23.160 Will resume

00:36:23.840 March 24th

00:36:24.940 Unless there's a deal

00:36:25.620 With an NDP

00:36:26.240 You know

00:36:28.220 For some type of

00:36:29.140 National crisis coalition

00:36:30.820 Then you know

00:36:32.420 That we're going into

00:36:33.380 An election

00:36:34.760 So

00:36:35.740 We either have

00:36:37.120 An illegitimate government

00:36:38.480 If there's an NDP prop up

00:36:42.520 Or we don't have

00:36:43.560 A functional government

00:36:44.520 Until June

00:36:45.440 Right

00:36:45.880 At the same time as

00:36:47.200 Trump is making these threats

00:36:48.960 Maybe this is the worst

00:36:50.340 Possible position

00:36:51.360 For us to be in

00:36:52.280 And that's

00:36:53.640 That's why

00:36:54.180 I'm so angry

00:36:55.060 About how he left

00:36:55.880 If he had called

00:36:56.580 An election

00:36:57.120 We could have

00:36:58.660 With him as leader

00:37:00.100 You know

00:37:00.360 He could make the case

00:37:01.360 On why he should be

00:37:02.420 The guy

00:37:02.840 Or we'd end up

00:37:06.320 With a poly

00:37:06.760 Of government

00:37:07.120 There would be

00:37:07.760 A leader with a mandate

00:37:08.960 Not someone that

00:37:09.820 Trump is going to look at

00:37:11.100 And laugh at

00:37:12.240 Because he

00:37:13.340 He knows the news

00:37:14.480 Coming out of Canada

00:37:15.140 He knows the polls

00:37:16.360 So the two go

00:37:17.720 Hand in hand

00:37:18.580 And put us

00:37:19.720 In a horrible position

00:37:20.920 Now

00:37:23.860 What do you think

00:37:24.840 About

00:37:25.560 Trump

00:37:26.340 We

00:37:27.160 You and I

00:37:27.540 Have been talking

00:37:28.040 For weeks

00:37:28.680 About

00:37:29.200 The stuff

00:37:30.680 That he's been saying

00:37:31.540 The bellicose

00:37:32.420 Kind of extreme stuff

00:37:33.780 A lot of people

00:37:34.980 A lot of conservatives

00:37:35.900 Have been suggesting

00:37:37.480 To themselves

00:37:38.080 Not you

00:37:38.660 A lot of conservatives

00:37:40.080 Oh he's just joking

00:37:41.020 It's not real

00:37:42.240 He's not

00:37:42.600 He couldn't possibly

00:37:43.480 Do that

00:37:44.160 And you've got this week

00:37:45.540 Stephen Harper

00:37:46.380 Suggesting online

00:37:48.300 Yeah

00:37:48.840 It feels real

00:37:50.000 And you know

00:37:51.640 Trump even going

00:37:52.440 After Polyev

00:37:53.420 What is the mind

00:37:54.720 Of conservatives

00:37:55.540 This week

00:37:56.400 Are they starting

00:37:57.020 To accept that

00:37:57.800 This is a possibility

00:37:59.180 Or even a certainty

00:38:00.400 Which part

00:38:03.960 The

00:38:04.520 The tariff threats

00:38:06.320 Or the

00:38:07.000 Annexation

00:38:07.760 Look

00:38:09.500 I've always thought

00:38:10.180 That the

00:38:10.740 The tariff threat

00:38:12.680 Was real

00:38:13.260 Yeah

00:38:13.800 And

00:38:14.380 You know

00:38:15.860 When it first happened

00:38:17.760 I said to you

00:38:18.880 Well he's asking

00:38:19.660 For stuff on the border

00:38:20.700 We should actually

00:38:21.680 You know

00:38:22.860 Give him what he wants

00:38:23.980 On the border

00:38:24.460 Because one

00:38:24.960 It's a pretty easy ask

00:38:26.180 And it benefits us

00:38:27.420 And it benefits us

00:38:28.380 And

00:38:29.260 And two

00:38:29.880 Well the last time

00:38:31.040 That he put tariffs on us

00:38:32.200 It was over

00:38:32.740 Chinese transshipment

00:38:34.360 And once we dealt

00:38:35.700 With the Chinese transshipment

00:38:36.920 He lifted

00:38:38.140 The tariffs

00:38:38.800 It wasn't

00:38:39.360 As I pointed out

00:38:40.440 In columns

00:38:41.060 Into you

00:38:41.520 It wasn't

00:38:42.540 Our counter tariffs

00:38:43.420 That won the day there

00:38:44.360 It's that we stopped

00:38:45.700 Cheap Chinese steel

00:38:46.780 And aluminum

00:38:47.280 From being dumped

00:38:48.120 In Canada

00:38:48.700 And shipped

00:38:49.220 Into the US

00:38:50.000 That's

00:38:51.600 When he lifted

00:38:52.660 Those tariffs

00:38:53.280 So I thought

00:38:53.720 Okay

00:38:54.000 That's what he did

00:38:55.160 Before

00:38:55.560 If we

00:38:56.860 Tighten up the border

00:38:58.120 He will

00:38:58.980 Avoid the tariffs

00:39:00.420 But

00:39:00.880 You know

00:39:01.800 I can't tell

00:39:03.140 If talk of annexation

00:39:04.640 Is a negotiating tactic

00:39:06.600 Or if he's changed

00:39:07.500 His mind

00:39:08.020 And thought

00:39:08.380 You know what

00:39:09.100 We should just

00:39:10.260 Own them

00:39:10.860 Because

00:39:11.240 You know

00:39:11.780 Why not

00:39:12.320 He's got in his mind

00:39:13.760 That he subsidizes

00:39:15.360 It started at

00:39:16.180 100 billion

00:39:16.840 Then it went to

00:39:17.520 200 billion

00:39:18.580 Now it's 250 billion

00:39:19.960 Do I hear three?

00:39:20.760 I think

00:39:22.380 That's the way

00:39:23.160 It's going to

00:39:23.760 Going to go

00:39:25.440 Over the next

00:39:25.940 Little while

00:39:26.460 Maybe he's serious

00:39:29.500 I don't know

00:39:31.620 How we fight

00:39:32.220 Back against that

00:39:33.200 If that's what he wants

00:39:34.000 Because there's no way

00:39:34.760 We can give him that

00:39:35.720 And

00:39:38.120 Unfortunately

00:39:40.920 We are

00:39:41.780 Incredibly dependent

00:39:43.520 On him

00:39:43.880 76%

00:39:44.880 Of our exports

00:39:46.420 Go to the United States

00:39:47.500 That was 2022's figure

00:39:48.920 I look back

00:39:50.580 In history

00:39:51.140 On

00:39:52.080 Where we were

00:39:53.740 Before we became

00:39:55.340 So dependent

00:39:55.820 On the US

00:39:56.360 When we were part

00:39:57.100 Of the British Empire

00:39:57.920 At the turn

00:39:59.960 Of the

00:40:00.860 The 19th

00:40:03.180 Into the 20th century

00:40:04.160 We were sending

00:40:04.780 About 60%

00:40:05.820 Of our exports

00:40:06.980 To the British Empire

00:40:07.880 That's when we were

00:40:08.560 Part of it

00:40:09.020 That was

00:40:09.400 At the height

00:40:10.700 Of Victorian Britain

00:40:12.220 In 1896

00:40:13.860 We were

00:40:14.440 Only 60%

00:40:17.280 Well

00:40:18.300 We're more dependent

00:40:19.140 On the US

00:40:20.400 Than we were

00:40:20.920 On the British Empire

00:40:21.780 That makes

00:40:23.220 That makes me worried

00:40:24.500 You know

00:40:26.420 Changing that

00:40:27.180 As a long term project

00:40:28.140 That won't fix this

00:40:29.000 But

00:40:29.280 The economic threat

00:40:32.660 Is

00:40:33.360 Is just

00:40:34.640 Incredible

00:40:35.640 And unfortunately

00:40:36.940 You know

00:40:37.240 As much as

00:40:37.760 Premiers can step up

00:40:38.740 And do things

00:40:39.320 And you know

00:40:42.460 In Ontario

00:40:43.240 They announced

00:40:43.780 Project deterrent

00:40:44.720 They've got the OPP

00:40:45.500 Out there

00:40:45.920 They've got increased

00:40:46.720 Helicopter patrols

00:40:47.760 At the border

00:40:48.140 That's not their job

00:40:49.360 And you know

00:40:51.040 They can only assist

00:40:52.260 On the border

00:40:52.820 And there's nothing

00:40:54.800 They can do

00:40:55.340 On the trade front

00:40:56.100 To negotiate

00:40:56.880 Trudeau finally

00:40:59.740 Started to make

00:41:00.440 His case

00:41:01.100 But Jean Chrétien

00:41:02.500 Did a better job

00:41:03.320 In the Globe and Mail

00:41:04.100 So

00:41:04.440 He sure did

00:41:05.200 Well let's talk

00:41:06.040 About the federal response

00:41:07.100 Then

00:41:07.460 Polyev

00:41:08.400 I've got a column

00:41:09.340 Critical of Polyev

00:41:10.520 In our paper

00:41:12.800 This weekend

00:41:14.140 It looks to me

00:41:16.040 Like he's still

00:41:16.720 Litigating the

00:41:17.440 Carbon tax election

00:41:18.620 Well I mean

00:41:19.040 That's the sign

00:41:19.700 On the podium

00:41:20.260 He had

00:41:20.720 I think he won

00:41:21.540 That fight

00:41:21.980 About a year ago

00:41:22.840 Why is he not

00:41:25.180 More fully

00:41:25.700 Turning his attention

00:41:26.720 To

00:41:27.340 Fighting Donald Trump

00:41:28.900 Is it because

00:41:29.400 So much of his base

00:41:30.400 Support Donald Trump

00:41:31.420 I don't think

00:41:33.140 His base would

00:41:33.780 Support Donald Trump

00:41:34.620 In taking over Canada

00:41:35.700 I just don't know

00:41:37.900 What his play

00:41:39.200 Would be there

00:41:39.880 I agree

00:41:40.760 That he should

00:41:41.200 Be doing something

00:41:41.940 I'm not sure

00:41:42.400 What though

00:41:43.020 I'm not sure

00:41:44.420 What his message

00:41:45.360 Could be

00:41:45.980 You know

00:41:48.380 He was asked

00:41:49.120 About why

00:41:49.840 You're still

00:41:50.180 Fighting the

00:41:50.620 Carbon tax war

00:41:51.540 When we've

00:41:53.100 Got this one

00:41:53.780 And he

00:41:54.580 Said they're

00:41:55.780 The same

00:41:56.280 And that

00:41:58.260 The carbon tax

00:41:59.000 Will still be

00:41:59.560 An issue

00:41:59.980 I'm not sure

00:42:04.460 He's figured out

00:42:05.180 Where to go

00:42:06.480 On this

00:42:06.960 You know

00:42:07.180 The premiers

00:42:07.620 Have an

00:42:08.660 Easy option

00:42:09.780 So his

00:42:12.240 Response has

00:42:12.860 Been weak

00:42:13.360 Absolutely

00:42:14.060 Not as weak

00:42:16.120 As the federal

00:42:16.600 Government

00:42:16.980 Which has done

00:42:17.800 Nothing

00:42:18.120 And they're

00:42:18.460 The ones

00:42:18.760 In charge

00:42:19.280 But it has

00:42:19.840 Been weak

00:42:20.300 One of the

00:42:21.360 Things I said

00:42:21.860 To Christian

00:42:22.320 You know

00:42:22.860 I talked to him

00:42:23.440 After his piece

00:42:24.200 Came out

00:42:24.760 And you know

00:42:25.240 This because

00:42:25.640 I've told you

00:42:26.140 About this

00:42:26.600 It's no secret

00:42:27.340 I said you know

00:42:28.400 I think boss

00:42:29.320 One of the

00:42:29.700 Reasons why

00:42:30.660 Your op-ed

00:42:31.980 Receives such

00:42:32.820 A positive

00:42:33.340 Response

00:42:34.020 You know

00:42:34.520 From

00:42:34.960 Conservatives

00:42:36.220 Liberals

00:42:36.700 New Democrats

00:42:37.380 Everybody

00:42:37.980 East

00:42:38.400 West

00:42:38.800 Is you know

00:42:40.360 You were seen

00:42:41.060 As talking

00:42:41.720 About the

00:42:42.440 Country

00:42:42.860 And how

00:42:43.740 It is a

00:42:44.660 Great country

00:42:45.340 And how so

00:42:46.380 Many of our

00:42:46.880 Federal politicians

00:42:47.940 Are not doing

00:42:49.860 That

00:42:50.220 Like it

00:42:51.080 Really does

00:42:52.580 Seem like

00:42:53.100 This is the

00:42:53.780 Ballot question

00:42:54.520 Now

00:42:54.800 I mean

00:42:55.060 It's

00:42:55.480 Some

00:42:56.160 Colonists

00:42:56.680 And you're

00:42:56.960 One of them

00:42:57.380 You know

00:42:57.600 We're being

00:42:57.980 Pulled together

00:42:58.740 By this

00:42:59.260 External threat

00:43:00.080 As you know

00:43:00.920 People always

00:43:01.520 Are by

00:43:01.880 External threats

00:43:02.720 Map out for us

00:43:04.300 Where you think

00:43:05.140 It's going to go

00:43:05.960 In the next few

00:43:07.200 Days

00:43:07.580 And next few

00:43:09.180 Weeks

00:43:09.600 So Trump's

00:43:10.440 Going to be

00:43:10.800 In there

00:43:11.180 In a week

00:43:11.700 Sounds like

00:43:12.800 You and I

00:43:13.220 Both feel

00:43:13.780 He's going to

00:43:14.340 Do his

00:43:14.860 Tariffs

00:43:15.340 What's the

00:43:16.260 What is the

00:43:16.980 Consequence of

00:43:17.980 That

00:43:18.280 For the

00:43:18.960 Ontario economy

00:43:19.880 For the

00:43:20.320 Canadian economy

00:43:21.120 Well I'll just

00:43:23.360 Say on

00:43:23.680 Chrétien's piece

00:43:24.440 It was

00:43:24.680 Excellent

00:43:25.200 And I

00:43:26.460 Think it

00:43:26.780 Resonated

00:43:27.400 Because

00:43:28.040 You know

00:43:29.660 We're led

00:43:30.380 By a

00:43:30.760 Government

00:43:31.080 That does

00:43:31.620 Has not

00:43:32.500 Promoted

00:43:32.980 Canadian

00:43:33.420 Patriotism

00:43:34.260 No

00:43:34.680 In fact I

00:43:35.660 Remember

00:43:36.020 During the

00:43:36.700 Trucker

00:43:37.000 Convoy

00:43:37.440 Members of the

00:43:38.900 Government

00:43:39.060 Talking about

00:43:39.560 The Canadian

00:43:40.020 Flag being

00:43:40.720 Triggering

00:43:41.300 Because people

00:43:42.360 In the

00:43:42.620 Convoy

00:43:43.000 Use the

00:43:43.420 Canadian

00:43:43.720 Flag

00:43:44.240 Absolutely

00:43:45.380 Ridiculous

00:43:46.220 You know

00:43:47.660 This is a

00:43:48.740 Government that

00:43:49.300 Brought into

00:43:49.760 Yanmar tells

00:43:50.520 Canada is the

00:43:51.500 Greatest hotel

00:43:52.140 In the world

00:43:52.800 And there's

00:43:53.260 No core

00:43:53.680 Identity

00:43:54.360 We're a

00:43:55.520 Post-national

00:43:56.120 State and

00:43:56.680 All of that

00:43:57.300 BS and so

00:43:58.460 It was

00:43:58.740 Refreshing to

00:44:00.040 Hear a

00:44:00.920 Leader say

00:44:01.740 Something

00:44:02.220 Patriotic

00:44:03.520 And not

00:44:05.200 Just Trudeau's

00:44:06.020 Well we're

00:44:06.800 Not American

00:44:07.440 It's not how

00:44:08.600 We define

00:44:09.080 Ourselves

00:44:09.520 We're better

00:44:10.180 Than that

00:44:10.540 So that's

00:44:10.980 Why

00:44:11.140 Chrétien's

00:44:11.640 Piece

00:44:11.880 Worked so

00:44:12.960 Well

00:44:13.260 And Donald

00:44:14.140 Trump has

00:44:14.620 Done more for

00:44:15.240 Canadian

00:44:15.620 Unity

00:44:16.080 Since starting

00:44:17.580 This than

00:44:18.420 Justin Trudeau

00:44:19.440 Has

00:44:19.880 It's amazing

00:44:20.440 In his entire

00:44:20.960 Time in

00:44:21.460 Government

00:44:21.820 Yeah

00:44:22.160 He's made

00:44:23.900 It cool to

00:44:24.940 Be patriotic

00:44:25.760 For the

00:44:26.080 Guys who

00:44:26.640 You know

00:44:27.040 Just were

00:44:27.840 Dismissing us

00:44:28.620 As a

00:44:29.040 Genocidal

00:44:29.780 White settler

00:44:31.140 Racist

00:44:32.680 State

00:44:34.040 Suddenly

00:44:34.640 They want to

00:44:35.200 Save this

00:44:35.680 Place that

00:44:36.120 They've been

00:44:36.440 Denigrating

00:44:36.980 For years

00:44:37.560 It's interesting

00:44:38.200 Well

00:44:39.340 Finally

00:44:40.360 Tariffs

00:44:41.360 What do you

00:44:42.040 Think is

00:44:42.280 Going to

00:44:42.460 Happen

00:44:42.780 Like what

00:44:43.380 Does it

00:44:43.580 Mean to

00:44:43.900 Our

00:44:44.100 Economy

00:44:44.440 People want

00:44:45.260 To know

00:44:45.600 Because you

00:44:46.160 Got your

00:44:46.600 Finger

00:44:46.920 On the

00:44:47.800 Statistics

00:44:48.440 You talk

00:44:48.940 To people

00:44:49.280 In government

00:44:49.720 You know

00:44:50.500 I've heard

00:44:50.960 Rumors

00:44:51.620 About as

00:44:52.580 Many as

00:44:53.020 A million

00:44:53.340 People just

00:44:53.960 In the

00:44:54.220 Province of

00:44:54.780 Ontario alone

00:44:55.540 Losing their

00:44:57.020 Livelihoods

00:44:57.700 Is that an

00:44:58.200 Exaggeration

00:44:58.960 Is that

00:44:59.380 Possible

00:44:59.880 It depends

00:45:01.020 Depends on

00:45:01.220 It depends on

00:45:01.240 How government

00:45:01.740 Reacts

00:45:02.240 And it

00:45:02.480 Depends on

00:45:03.000 What the

00:45:03.320 Tariffs

00:45:03.660 Are

00:45:03.940 The

00:45:05.680 The oil

00:45:07.220 That goes

00:45:07.600 Down to

00:45:07.940 The United

00:45:08.260 States

00:45:08.620 Is required

00:45:09.280 Right now

00:45:10.820 Western

00:45:11.560 Canadian

00:45:13.520 Select

00:45:14.020 Trades at

00:45:14.660 About an

00:45:15.040 18 to

00:45:15.480 20%

00:45:16.040 Discount

00:45:16.600 Over

00:45:16.920 West

00:45:17.240 Texas

00:45:17.560 Intermediate

00:45:18.480 So a

00:45:19.600 25%

00:45:20.380 Tariff

00:45:20.840 On

00:45:21.780 Canadian

00:45:22.280 Oil

00:45:22.560 Makes it

00:45:22.980 More

00:45:23.260 Expensive

00:45:23.740 Than the

00:45:24.080 Benchmark

00:45:24.600 Which is

00:45:25.000 West

00:45:25.240 Texas

00:45:25.560 Intermediate

00:45:26.240 In Europe

00:45:27.520 They use

00:45:28.040 The British

00:45:28.940 One

00:45:29.140 Brent

00:45:29.440 In North

00:45:30.380 America

00:45:30.660 We use

00:45:30.960 West Texas

00:45:31.500 Intermediate

00:45:32.120 All of a

00:45:32.940 Sudden

00:45:33.100 That would

00:45:33.380 Make it

00:45:33.680 More

00:45:33.880 Expensive

00:45:34.360 That would

00:45:34.700 Drive up

00:45:35.160 Prices

00:45:35.780 In the

00:45:36.040 U.S.

00:45:36.500 Are they

00:45:37.080 Going to

00:45:37.380 Keep

00:45:37.560 Buying

00:45:37.900 That

00:45:38.140 I don't

00:45:38.880 Know

00:45:39.140 For

00:45:40.340 Ontario

00:45:40.760 Manufactured

00:45:41.560 Goods

00:45:41.980 What happens

00:45:43.060 Does

00:45:43.360 You know

00:45:43.900 One of

00:45:44.120 The things

00:45:44.380 China did

00:45:45.020 When

00:45:45.760 The U.S.

00:45:47.080 Imposed

00:45:47.620 Tariffs

00:45:48.060 On

00:45:48.460 Their

00:45:48.940 Goods

00:45:49.340 The reason

00:45:49.900 Prices

00:45:50.260 Didn't

00:45:50.580 Go up

00:45:50.940 In the

00:45:51.320 United

00:45:51.580 States

00:45:51.960 Is

00:45:52.180 The

00:45:52.400 Chinese

00:45:52.840 Government

00:45:53.180 Just

00:45:53.680 Subsidized

00:45:55.180 What

00:45:56.200 Was

00:45:56.400 Being

00:45:58.040 And

00:45:59.140 So

00:46:00.860 The

00:46:01.320 The

00:46:03.800 Chinese

00:46:04.120 Kept

00:46:04.380 Exporting

00:46:05.000 And

00:46:05.220 The

00:46:05.380 Americans

00:46:05.720 Kept

00:46:06.000 Buying

00:46:06.480 Can

00:46:07.820 We

00:46:08.000 Do

00:46:08.180 That

00:46:08.460 Would

00:46:08.720 We

00:46:08.880 Do

00:46:09.040 That

00:46:09.300 It

00:46:09.660 Would

00:46:09.800 Be

00:46:09.940 Incredibly

00:46:10.440 Expensive

00:46:11.680 And

00:46:11.880 Incredibly

00:46:12.280 Difficult

00:46:12.720 Because

00:46:13.020 We're

00:46:13.200 Not

00:46:13.420 Sending

00:46:14.280 Cheap

00:46:15.060 Plastic

00:46:15.600 Goods

00:46:16.300 You know

00:46:16.780 That

00:46:17.280 Are

00:46:17.380 Semi

00:46:17.620 Disposable

00:46:18.200 For

00:46:18.420 Use

00:46:18.640 In

00:46:18.740 Your

00:46:18.900 Kitchen

00:46:19.200 We're

00:46:19.580 Talking

00:46:20.620 About

00:46:20.840 Auto

00:46:21.140 Parts

00:46:21.620 And

00:46:21.740 Things

00:46:21.960 Like

00:46:22.180 That

00:46:22.540 So

00:46:23.760 Governments

00:46:24.200 Are

00:46:24.300 Going

00:46:24.460 To

00:46:24.580 Have

00:46:24.780 To

00:46:24.880 Come

00:46:25.040 Up

00:46:25.160 With

00:46:25.400 A

00:46:26.140 Response

00:46:26.640 And

00:46:28.040 Counter

00:46:30.340 Tariffs

00:46:30.820 On

00:46:31.200 Florida

00:46:31.600 Orange

00:46:31.940 Juice

00:46:32.260 Playing

00:46:32.620 Cards

00:46:32.960 And

00:46:33.140 Bourbon

00:46:33.520 Won't

00:46:34.080 Save

00:46:34.580 The

00:46:34.740 Day

00:46:35.040 The

00:46:36.500 Trump

00:46:38.380 Is

00:46:38.560 Appointed

00:46:38.920 Peter

00:46:39.280 Navarro

00:46:39.860 As

00:46:41.020 His

00:46:41.340 Special

00:46:41.820 Trade

00:46:42.180 Representative

00:46:43.340 Now

00:46:43.720 I've

00:46:44.240 Read

00:46:44.420 Peter's

00:46:44.860 Book

00:46:45.040 Death

00:46:45.280 By

00:46:45.480 China

00:46:45.840 Interviewed

00:46:46.840 Him

00:46:46.900 A

00:46:47.020 Couple

00:46:47.220 Of

00:46:47.400 Times

00:46:47.680 Several

00:46:47.980 Years

00:46:48.360 Ago

00:46:48.700 I've

00:46:49.840 Watched

00:46:50.180 What

00:46:50.300 He

00:46:50.400 Continues

00:46:50.840 To

00:46:50.980 Say

00:46:51.160 I've

00:46:51.340 Read

00:46:51.480 Robert

00:46:51.840 Lighthizer

00:46:52.320 Book

00:46:52.740 Or

00:46:52.900 Most

00:46:53.160 Of

00:46:53.300 Trump's

00:46:55.600 Former

00:46:55.820 Trade

00:46:56.140 Representative

00:46:56.680 These

00:46:57.580 Guys

00:46:57.800 Do

00:46:58.100 Not

00:46:58.340 Believe

00:46:58.860 Our

00:46:59.380 Argument

00:47:00.000 That

00:47:00.620 Tariffs

00:47:01.220 Are

00:47:01.440 Bad

00:47:01.760 For

00:47:01.940 The

00:47:02.060 American

00:47:02.380 People

00:47:02.800 They

00:47:03.740 Believe

00:47:04.120 That

00:47:04.380 Tariffs

00:47:04.880 Are

00:47:05.020 Actually

00:47:05.280 Good

00:47:05.540 For

00:47:05.700 The

00:47:05.800 American

00:47:06.140 Worker

00:47:06.640 So

00:47:07.860 You

00:47:09.240 Know

00:47:09.380 We

00:47:10.500 Will

00:47:10.720 Have

00:47:10.920 To

00:47:11.060 Respond

00:47:11.500 In

00:47:11.680 Some

00:47:11.940 Way

00:47:12.200 But

00:47:12.700 As

00:47:14.000 You

00:47:14.160 Talked

00:47:14.420 About

00:47:14.700 Fighting

00:47:16.140 The

00:47:16.380 Last

00:47:16.660 War

00:47:16.900 We're

00:47:17.360 Kind

00:47:17.620 Of

00:47:17.740 Fighting

00:47:17.960 The

00:47:18.180 Last

00:47:18.400 War

00:47:18.600 With

00:47:18.820 A

00:47:18.960 Lot

00:47:19.080 Of

00:47:19.180 Our

00:47:19.300 Messaging

00:47:19.740 And

00:47:21.700 Then

00:47:22.480 The

00:47:22.640 Other

00:47:22.800 Messaging

00:47:23.240 That

00:47:23.400 We

00:47:23.500 Can

00:47:23.640 Have

00:47:23.920 I

00:47:24.400 Reposted

00:47:25.380 Ontario

00:47:25.960 Captain

00:47:26.300 Minister

00:47:26.660 Vic

00:47:26.940 Fideli

00:47:27.300 Saying

00:47:28.000 Hey

00:47:28.240 We've

00:47:28.520 Got

00:47:28.660 The

00:47:28.800 Critical

00:47:29.060 Minerals

00:47:29.480 From

00:47:29.600 America

00:47:29.900 Needs

00:47:30.240 That

00:47:31.020 Message

00:47:31.440 Could

00:47:31.800 Be

00:47:31.920 Good

00:47:32.180 But

00:47:32.400 It

00:47:32.500 Could

00:47:32.620 Lead

00:47:33.060 Trump

00:47:33.280 To

00:47:33.440 Saying

00:47:33.780 Yeah

00:47:34.480 That's

00:47:34.880 Exactly

00:47:35.240 Why

00:47:35.460 You

00:47:35.580 Should

00:47:35.700 Be

00:47:35.800 The

00:47:35.940 51st

00:47:36.440 State

00:47:36.860 Ouch

00:47:37.780 Well

00:47:38.940 It's

00:47:39.360 Been

00:47:39.520 A

00:47:39.680 Hell

00:47:39.880 Of

00:47:40.020 A

00:47:40.140 Week

00:47:40.400 And

00:47:41.040 We're

00:47:41.520 Grateful

00:47:41.880 We

00:47:42.100 Got

00:47:42.300 You

00:47:42.440 To

00:47:42.600 Help

00:47:42.880 Us

00:47:43.240 To

00:47:43.760 Be

00:47:43.900 Our

00:47:44.080 Guide

00:47:44.520 Through

00:47:45.020 This

00:47:45.260 That's

00:47:46.880 The

00:47:47.000 Problem

00:47:47.480 Yeah

00:47:48.320 But

00:47:48.720 At

00:47:48.920 Least

00:47:49.060 You're

00:47:49.220 Trying

00:47:49.600 And

00:47:50.220 You

00:47:51.000 Know

00:47:51.140 Quite

00:47:51.400 A

00:47:51.520 Few

00:47:51.620 People

00:47:51.940 Aren't

00:47:52.280 You

00:47:52.800 Know

00:47:52.960 Got

00:47:53.620 Their

00:47:53.780 Head

00:47:53.960 In

00:47:54.100 The

00:47:54.220 Sand

00:47:54.460 And

00:47:54.580 They

00:47:54.680 Think

00:47:54.840 It's

00:47:55.000 Not

00:47:55.180 Real

00:47:55.440 But

00:47:55.660 All

00:47:55.840 Of

00:47:55.940 This

00:47:56.100 Or

00:47:56.760 Saying

00:47:57.400 Well

00:47:57.660 We'll

00:47:57.860 Just

00:47:58.140 Stop

00:47:58.960 Exporting

00:47:59.540 Everything

00:47:59.840 To

00:48:00.080 Them

00:48:00.240 You

00:48:00.760 Can

00:48:00.920 Only

00:48:01.140 Say

00:48:01.380 That

00:48:01.700 If

00:48:02.040 You

00:48:02.180 Live

00:48:02.400 In

00:48:02.500 The

00:48:02.620 Laptop

00:48:03.080 Class

00:48:03.540 And

00:48:04.380 Are

00:48:05.040 Not

00:48:05.500 Affected

00:48:05.960 So

00:48:06.220 It's

00:48:06.640 Burying

00:48:07.220 Your

00:48:07.380 Head

00:48:07.540 In

00:48:07.640 The

00:48:07.740 Sand

00:48:07.980 Or

00:48:08.200 Saying

00:48:08.500 Screw

00:48:08.840 Them

00:48:09.060 We

00:48:09.220 Don't

00:48:09.420 Need

00:48:09.580 To

00:48:09.700 Export

00:48:10.060 Anything

00:48:10.380 To

00:48:10.580 Them

00:48:10.760 Are

00:48:10.980 Two

00:48:11.180 Really

00:48:11.460 Dumb

00:48:11.720 Things

00:48:12.100 It

00:48:12.440 Is

00:48:12.620 Indeed

00:48:12.940 My

00:48:13.600 Friend

00:48:13.880 Thank

00:48:14.720 You

00:48:14.900 Welcome

00:48:15.200 Back

00:48:15.440 To

00:48:15.600 Canada

00:48:15.980 We

00:48:16.660 Need

00:48:16.820 Canada

00:48:17.100 Needs

00:48:17.440 You

00:48:17.820 And

00:48:18.280 Good

00:48:18.860 To

00:48:18.980 Be

00:48:19.100 Back

00:48:19.400 Have

00:48:20.120 A

00:48:20.220 Great

00:48:20.400 Week

00:48:20.720 Have

00:48:20.980 A

00:48:21.000 Great

00:48:21.300 Day

00:48:21.620 And

00:48:21.900 We'll

00:48:22.040 Talk

00:48:22.220 To

00:48:22.320 You

00:48:22.400 Next

00:48:22.560 Week

00:48:22.780 Thank

00:48:23.200 You

00:48:23.400 Talk

00:48:23.700 Soon

00:48:51.900 Go

00:48:52.400 Ready

00:48:52.960 To

00:48:53.280 Go

00:48:53.700 On

00:48:54.580 Oh

00:48:55.960 Oh

00:48:56.440 Oh

00:48:57.580 Yeah

00:48:58.440 Hold

00:48:59.900 On

00:49:00.740 To

00:49:00.960 Anything

00:49:01.760 Oh

00:49:03.440 Oh

00:49:04.440 Oh

00:49:05.440 Yeah

00:49:05.940 Hold

00:49:07.380 On

00:49:08.040 Fuck

00:49:09.220 The

00:49:09.400 21st

00:49:10.360 Century

00:49:10.940 What

00:49:11.360 Happened

00:49:11.760 To

00:49:12.000 Society

00:49:12.760 90s

00:49:13.640 Was

00:49:13.820 The

00:49:14.040 Place

00:49:14.340 For

00:49:14.620 Me

00:49:15.440 Nevada

00:49:17.080 Wretched

00:49:17.580 Throws

00:49:18.020 Reef

00:49:18.380 Now

00:49:18.640 Home

00:49:18.960 Technology

00:49:19.640 Centuries

00:49:20.240 Taking

00:49:20.840 Up

00:49:21.140 The

00:49:21.400 Air

00:49:21.660 I

00:49:21.860 Breathe

00:49:22.100 Dig

00:49:22.620 The

00:49:22.760 Holes

00:49:23.080 And

00:49:23.280 Bury

00:49:23.640 Me

00:49:24.260 The

00:49:27.840 90s

00:49:28.420 Was

00:49:28.580 The

00:49:28.780 Place

00:49:29.100 For

00:49:29.400 Me

00:49:30.260 The

00:49:35.160 90s

00:49:35.700 Was

00:49:35.900 The

00:49:36.100 Place

00:49:36.420 For

00:49:36.680 Me

00:49:37.060 Remember

00:49:39.720 Living

00:49:40.240 Just

00:49:40.600 To

00:49:40.840 Live

00:49:41.000 So

00:49:41.260 We

00:49:41.500 Can

00:49:41.700 Get

00:49:42.060 By

00:49:42.640 And

00:49:43.140 Nowadays

00:49:43.680 We

00:49:44.000 Spend

00:49:44.340 Our

00:49:44.520 Time

00:49:44.760 Just

00:49:45.000 Trying

00:49:45.260 To

00:49:45.420 Get

00:49:45.800 Likes

00:49:46.400 And

00:49:46.800 Quickly

00:49:47.140 Post

00:49:47.540 A

00:49:47.740 Picture

00:49:48.040 Of

00:49:48.460 Those

00:49:48.660 Russian

00:49:49.060 Airstrikes

00:49:49.860 When

00:49:50.400 It

00:49:50.840 All

00:49:51.440 Go

00:49:51.760 Ready

00:49:52.300 To

00:49:52.620 Go

00:49:53.160 Run

00:49:53.780 Remember

00:49:54.540 When

00:49:54.980 Everything

00:49:55.700 Was

00:49:56.040 Call

00:49:56.340 The

00:49:56.540 Siren

00:49:57.160 And

00:49:57.940 Nowadays

00:49:58.420 It's like

00:49:59.080 We're

00:49:59.260 Sleeping

00:49:59.600 Under

00:50:00.080 Sirens

00:50:01.080 And

00:50:01.640 Medicaid

00:50:02.180 That's

00:50:02.840 Okay

00:50:03.180 Just

00:50:03.640 Keep

00:50:03.880 Crying

00:50:04.720 When

00:50:05.240 It

00:50:05.620 All

00:50:06.280 Go

00:50:06.620 Ready

00:50:07.120 To

00:50:07.440 Go

00:50:08.020 Run

00:50:08.840 Oh

00:50:10.060 Oh

00:50:10.160 No

00:50:10.840 Oh

00:50:11.060 Yeah

00:50:12.620 Hold

00:50:13.900 On

00:50:14.780 To

00:50:15.020 Anything

00:50:15.660 Oh

00:50:17.460 No

00:50:18.400 Oh

00:50:19.500 Yeah

00:50:19.960 Hold

00:50:21.340 On

00:50:22.840 Fuck

00:50:23.180 The

00:50:23.340 21st

00:50:24.300 Century

00:50:24.860 What

00:50:25.280 Happened

00:50:25.720 To

00:50:25.940 Society

00:50:26.700 90s

00:50:27.600 Was

00:50:27.780 The

00:50:28.000 Price

00:50:28.300 For

00:50:28.580 May

00:50:29.380 Fire

00:50:31.020 Wretched

00:50:31.520 Glash

00:50:31.980 Wings

00:50:32.340 Now

00:50:32.600 Are we

00:50:33.060 Got

00:50:33.360 Are these

00:50:33.780 Decrees

00:50:34.240 Taking

00:50:34.780 Up

00:50:35.120 The

00:50:35.380 Air

00:50:35.640 I

00:50:35.860 Breathe

00:50:36.080 Dig

00:50:36.580 The

00:50:36.780 Holes

00:50:37.060 It

00:50:37.280 Buried

00:50:37.660 Just

00:50:49.160 Take

00:50:49.480 A

00:50:49.680 Hose

00:50:49.900 And

00:50:50.120 Buried

00:50:50.740 Name

00:51:07.660 It's

00:51:08.160 The

00:51:08.360 21st

00:51:09.840 Century

00:51:10.580 What

00:51:11.140 Happened

00:51:11.800 To

00:51:12.100 Society

00:51:12.960 The

00:51:13.860 90s

00:51:14.500 Was

00:51:14.760 The

00:51:15.060 Place

00:51:15.560 For

00:51:15.960 Me

00:51:16.480 Nirvana

00:51:19.700 And

00:51:20.220 Cheap

00:51:20.500 Groceries

00:51:21.540 Now

00:51:21.840 Now

00:51:21.860 All

00:51:21.880 All

00:51:22.160 All

00:51:22.200 We

00:51:22.480 Got

00:51:22.840 Are

00:51:23.020 These

00:51:23.280 Fake

00:51:23.560 Trees

00:51:23.780 Taking

00:51:24.440 Up

00:51:24.820 The

00:51:25.080 Air

00:51:25.340 I

00:51:25.520 Breathe

00:51:25.760 Take

00:51:26.240 A

00:51:26.460 Hose

00:51:26.680 And

00:51:26.900 Buried

00:51:27.240 For

00:51:27.560 21st

00:51:28.660 Century

00:51:29.200 What

00:51:29.620 I

00:51:29.820 Put

00:51:30.080 To

00:51:30.300 Society

00:51:31.040 90s

00:51:31.960 What's

00:51:32.160 The

00:51:32.360 Place

00:51:32.660 For

00:51:32.960 Name

00:51:33.660 The

00:51:35.060 Fire

00:51:35.460 Action

00:51:35.940 To

00:51:36.340 Speaks

00:51:36.680 Now

00:51:36.980 All

00:51:37.200 We

00:51:37.360 Got

00:51:37.640 The

00:51:37.880 East

00:51:38.120 Lake

00:51:38.340 Trees

00:51:38.600 Taking

00:51:39.160 Out

00:51:39.480 The

00:51:39.760 Air

00:51:39.980 I

00:51:40.200 Breathe

00:51:40.400 Dig

00:51:40.880 A

00:51:41.080 Hole

00:51:41.340 And

00:51:41.580 Bury

00:51:41.860 Me

00:51:42.240 The

00:52:04.860 Ben Mulroney

00:52:05.340 Show marches

00:52:06.300 on on the

00:52:07.040 Chorus Radio

00:52:07.800 Network and

00:52:08.440 it's Friday which

00:52:09.280 means we're

00:52:09.620 taking a look

00:52:10.080 back at this

00:52:10.760 week in

00:52:11.200 politics with

00:52:11.940 our panel

00:52:12.760 let's say

00:52:13.640 hello to

00:52:14.020 Warren Kinsella

00:52:14.740 former special

00:52:15.500 advisor to

00:52:16.000 Jean Chrétien

00:52:16.480 and CEO of

00:52:17.260 the Daisy

00:52:17.620 Group

00:52:17.860 welcome

00:52:18.160 Warren

00:52:18.460 good

00:52:19.300 morning

00:52:19.500 sir

00:52:19.780 we also

00:52:20.220 have

00:52:20.400 Anthony

00:52:20.680 Koch

00:52:20.960 managing

00:52:21.360 principal

00:52:21.760 at

00:52:22.100 AK

00:52:22.480 Strategies

00:52:23.120 and

00:52:23.380 former

00:52:23.620 national

00:52:23.920 campaign

00:52:24.320 spokesperson

00:52:24.800 for

00:52:25.100 Pierre

00:52:25.260 Poliev

00:52:25.580 hello

00:52:26.160 there

00:52:26.420 Anthony

00:52:26.780 how's it

00:52:27.700 going

00:52:27.840 Ben

00:52:28.060 and

00:52:28.680 a blast

00:52:29.420 from my

00:52:29.960 past

00:52:30.320 one of my

00:52:30.660 very first

00:52:31.400 colleagues

00:52:31.840 when I

00:52:32.160 started

00:52:32.560 in television

00:52:33.240 in Canada

00:52:34.000 Jennifer

00:52:34.800 Hollett

00:52:35.220 executive

00:52:35.740 director

00:52:36.240 of the

00:52:36.680 Walrus

00:52:37.180 Jen

00:52:37.500 welcome

00:52:37.900 Ben

00:52:39.080 do you

00:52:39.320 remember

00:52:39.660 we used

00:52:40.120 to host

00:52:40.440 a TV

00:52:40.860 segment

00:52:41.280 called

00:52:41.960 be it

00:52:42.400 resolve

00:52:42.800 that

00:52:43.220 yes

00:52:43.620 and we

00:52:44.200 would

00:52:44.340 debate

00:52:44.620 things

00:52:44.880 so it

00:52:45.140 reminds me

00:52:45.640 of that

00:52:46.060 to be

00:52:46.920 on the

00:52:47.180 show

00:52:47.440 never in

00:52:48.040 my life

00:52:48.460 have I

00:52:48.760 so vehemently

00:52:49.880 disagreed

00:52:50.820 with someone

00:52:51.240 all while

00:52:51.820 enjoying their

00:52:52.400 company as

00:52:52.900 much as I

00:52:53.280 enjoyed yours

00:52:53.840 Jen

00:52:54.100 right back

00:52:55.140 at you

00:52:55.440 Ben

00:52:55.580 so let's

00:52:56.740 let's dive

00:52:57.280 into Prime

00:52:57.780 Minister

00:52:57.960 Justin Trudeau's

00:52:58.700 first media

00:52:59.700 interview since

00:53:00.620 he announced

00:53:01.440 that he intended

00:53:02.140 to resign

00:53:02.680 it wasn't a

00:53:03.040 resignation

00:53:03.300 it was an

00:53:04.000 announcement

00:53:04.280 of an

00:53:04.580 intention

00:53:04.920 and it

00:53:06.620 wasn't with

00:53:07.320 a Canadian

00:53:07.740 media outlet

00:53:08.680 it was on

00:53:09.560 CNN

00:53:10.520 Warren

00:53:11.140 what do

00:53:11.740 you make

00:53:11.920 of that

00:53:12.320 I think

00:53:13.380 it was

00:53:13.560 fine

00:53:13.940 I mean

00:53:14.360 he's

00:53:14.980 basically

00:53:15.440 just aping

00:53:16.180 what Doug

00:53:17.100 Ford has

00:53:17.700 been doing

00:53:18.140 for a few

00:53:18.700 weeks now

00:53:19.280 Ford has

00:53:19.800 been very

00:53:20.300 effectively

00:53:20.860 going on

00:53:21.580 American

00:53:22.060 TV stations

00:53:23.020 because everybody

00:53:23.960 knows

00:53:24.300 God knows

00:53:24.960 the only way

00:53:25.760 to get

00:53:26.040 into Donald

00:53:26.620 Trump's

00:53:27.080 tiny brain

00:53:27.720 is through

00:53:28.140 a TV

00:53:28.600 screen

00:53:29.100 so you

00:53:30.200 know

00:53:30.300 Ford's

00:53:30.760 been doing

00:53:31.160 that

00:53:31.440 Daniel

00:53:31.780 Smith's

00:53:32.220 been doing

00:53:32.540 that

00:53:32.860 I think

00:53:33.300 that you

00:53:33.900 know

00:53:34.000 Trudeau's

00:53:34.480 guys

00:53:34.700 looked at

00:53:35.100 it

00:53:35.200 and said

00:53:35.460 well it's

00:53:35.720 having an

00:53:36.140 impact

00:53:36.480 number one

00:53:37.100 number two

00:53:38.040 he's not

00:53:38.420 going to be

00:53:38.720 prime minister

00:53:39.340 in another

00:53:39.900 39 days

00:53:40.880 so we may

00:53:41.860 as well go

00:53:42.320 for broke

00:53:42.840 you know

00:53:43.160 going down

00:53:43.820 to Mar-a-Lago

00:53:44.540 I always thought

00:53:45.280 was the biggest

00:53:45.980 mistake

00:53:46.560 one thing

00:53:47.460 I've learned

00:53:47.980 full disclosure

00:53:48.940 because I

00:53:49.360 worked for

00:53:49.940 Hillary

00:53:50.620 and I

00:53:50.960 worked for

00:53:51.340 Kamlo

00:53:51.800 you know

00:53:52.780 sucking up

00:53:53.380 to Donald

00:53:53.860 Trump

00:53:54.220 does not

00:53:54.780 work

00:53:55.180 he respects

00:53:56.460 strength

00:53:56.980 and you

00:53:57.560 got to

00:53:57.800 show strength

00:53:58.360 and that's

00:53:58.740 what Trump

00:53:59.220 what Ford

00:54:00.420 and some

00:54:00.760 of the

00:54:00.920 others

00:54:01.160 have been

00:54:01.420 doing

00:54:01.640 so I

00:54:02.400 think

00:54:02.560 going on

00:54:03.100 American

00:54:03.500 TV

00:54:03.880 and getting

00:54:04.340 up in his

00:54:04.800 grill

00:54:05.060 that's the

00:54:05.480 way to go

00:54:05.960 Anthony

00:54:06.880 I agree

00:54:07.440 with Warren

00:54:08.140 in so far

00:54:08.600 as getting

00:54:08.900 on TV

00:54:09.300 is how

00:54:09.620 you get

00:54:10.220 in front

00:54:10.520 of Donald

00:54:11.340 Trump

00:54:11.620 but I

00:54:12.100 don't know

00:54:12.360 that Donald

00:54:12.680 Trump

00:54:12.860 watches

00:54:13.200 CNN

00:54:13.560 no that's

00:54:15.040 the point

00:54:15.440 and you

00:54:15.820 want to

00:54:16.040 talk about

00:54:16.420 Doug Ford

00:54:16.980 he's going

00:54:17.680 on Fox

00:54:18.340 and so

00:54:19.100 is Daniel

00:54:19.600 Smith

00:54:20.020 the CNN

00:54:20.920 interview

00:54:21.320 let's be

00:54:21.720 clear about

00:54:22.120 what this

00:54:22.420 is really

00:54:22.780 about

00:54:23.000 I saw

00:54:23.300 a friend

00:54:23.560 who had

00:54:23.780 this

00:54:23.940 take

00:54:24.140 I

00:54:24.280 believe

00:54:24.480 he's

00:54:24.660 doing

00:54:24.840 an

00:54:25.000 interview

00:54:25.240 with

00:54:25.620 Jen Psaki

00:54:26.300 on

00:54:27.180 MSNBC

00:54:27.980 this

00:54:28.380 Sunday

00:54:28.720 as well

00:54:29.240 I'm sure

00:54:29.640 Donald

00:54:29.920 Trump

00:54:30.140 watches

00:54:30.480 that

00:54:30.680 program

00:54:31.100 what it

00:54:31.800 really is

00:54:32.340 about

00:54:32.620 quite

00:54:32.840 frankly

00:54:33.220 is

00:54:33.500 Justin

00:54:33.860 Trudeau

00:54:34.300 trying

00:54:34.740 to

00:54:34.980 prepare

00:54:35.320 himself

00:54:35.720 for a

00:54:36.160 post

00:54:36.440 prime

00:54:36.700 ministerial

00:54:37.280 career

00:54:37.640 whatever

00:54:38.180 that's

00:54:38.600 going to

00:54:38.780 look like

00:54:39.140 at this

00:54:39.540 point

00:54:39.880 it's

00:54:40.680 the

00:54:40.880 glory

00:54:41.400 run

00:54:41.960 the

00:54:42.260 end

00:54:42.780 of

00:54:43.000 his

00:54:43.240 the

00:54:43.420 twilight

00:54:43.840 of his

00:54:44.120 prime

00:54:44.360 ministerial

00:54:44.880 career

00:54:45.160 so I

00:54:45.640 don't

00:54:46.100 buy

00:54:46.460 that this

00:54:47.300 is

00:54:47.420 really

00:54:47.640 about

00:54:47.900 communicating

00:54:48.540 directly

00:54:49.020 to

00:54:49.400 Americans

00:54:50.160 or to

00:54:50.620 the

00:54:50.760 president

00:54:51.080 he

00:54:51.740 actually

00:54:52.140 got to

00:54:52.560 communicate

00:54:52.900 directly

00:54:53.240 to

00:54:53.380 the

00:54:53.480 president

00:54:53.760 when he

00:54:54.000 went

00:54:54.160 down

00:54:54.360 to

00:54:54.520 Mar-a-Lago

00:54:54.940 whether

00:54:55.280 or not

00:54:55.560 that was

00:54:55.900 an error

00:54:56.420 is up

00:54:56.860 for debate

00:54:57.360 I think

00:54:58.080 I tend

00:54:58.480 to agree

00:54:58.960 with Warren

00:54:59.520 about the

00:55:00.860 idea that

00:55:01.340 sucking up

00:55:01.780 to the

00:55:02.000 president

00:55:02.240 is probably

00:55:02.620 not the

00:55:02.940 best way

00:55:03.460 to go

00:55:03.720 about this

00:55:04.280 but at

00:55:04.960 the end

00:55:05.120 of the

00:55:05.300 day

00:55:05.680 Jen

00:55:06.260 Psaki

00:55:06.740 and CNN

00:55:07.360 interviews

00:55:07.780 are not

00:55:08.120 the way

00:55:08.380 that you're

00:55:08.680 forgetting

00:55:09.040 even if

00:55:09.420 communicating

00:55:09.800 directly

00:55:10.120 with

00:55:10.260 Donald

00:55:10.420 Trump

00:55:10.620 if

00:55:10.760 you're

00:55:10.880 trying

00:55:11.080 to

00:55:11.300 speak

00:55:11.660 to

00:55:12.260 the

00:55:12.400 president

00:55:12.740 supporters

00:55:13.400 if

00:55:13.980 you're

00:55:14.100 trying

00:55:14.260 to

00:55:14.400 speak

00:55:14.580 to

00:55:14.720 the

00:55:14.820 kinds

00:55:15.060 of

00:55:15.200 Americans

00:55:18.480 get a

00:55:19.100 lot of

00:55:19.360 products

00:55:19.700 from

00:55:19.860 Canada

00:55:20.160 especially

00:55:20.640 in the

00:55:20.940 way

00:55:21.060 of

00:55:21.180 energy

00:55:21.520 and

00:55:22.320 one

00:55:22.500 of

00:55:22.580 the

00:55:22.700 reasons

00:55:23.000 that

00:55:23.300 Joe

00:55:23.480 Biden

00:55:23.780 was

00:55:23.940 facing

00:55:24.240 such

00:55:24.500 unpopularity

00:55:25.180 towards

00:55:25.520 the end

00:55:25.840 of his

00:55:26.060 presidency

00:55:26.480 was the

00:55:27.520 fact

00:55:27.740 that

00:55:27.900 people

00:55:28.140 would

00:55:28.340 go

00:55:28.500 around

00:55:28.780 and

00:55:28.920 see

00:55:29.080 that

00:55:29.180 the

00:55:29.300 price

00:55:29.520 of

00:55:29.660 gas

00:55:30.000 had

00:55:30.180 gone

00:55:30.380 up

00:55:30.560 so

00:55:30.720 much

00:55:31.000 if

00:55:31.140 Americans

00:55:31.540 are

00:55:31.700 able

00:55:31.800 to

00:55:31.960 understand

00:55:32.280 that

00:55:32.460 these

00:55:32.620 tariffs

00:55:32.940 are

00:55:33.080 going

00:55:33.180 to

00:55:33.260 result

00:55:33.560 in

00:55:33.700 people

00:55:33.880 paying

00:55:34.120 a lot

00:55:34.380 more

00:55:34.560 at

00:55:34.660 the

00:55:34.780 pump

00:55:35.000 for

00:55:35.160 example

00:55:35.520 I

00:55:35.820 think

00:55:45.200 speaking

00:55:45.980 fees

00:55:46.320 on

00:55:46.460 the

00:55:46.580 progressive

00:55:46.960 circuit

00:55:47.420 in

00:55:47.580 the

00:55:47.660 United

00:55:47.820 States

00:55:48.140 than

00:55:48.840 it

00:55:48.980 is

00:55:49.240 about

00:55:50.580 communicating

00:55:51.600 to

00:55:52.020 Donald

00:55:52.500 Trump

00:55:52.920 Jen

00:55:53.880 I

00:55:54.280 don't

00:55:54.600 begrudge

00:55:55.260 him

00:55:55.400 going

00:55:55.620 on

00:55:55.840 CNN

00:55:56.160 he

00:55:56.420 was

00:55:56.540 down

00:55:56.780 in

00:55:56.940 Washington

00:55:57.320 for

00:55:57.560 the

00:55:57.740 Jim

00:55:58.140 McHara

00:55:58.360 funeral

00:55:58.720 and

00:55:59.060 that's

00:55:59.540 where

00:55:59.700 Jake

00:56:00.120 Tapper

00:56:00.360 does

00:56:00.580 his

00:56:00.720 show

00:56:00.940 so

00:56:01.100 that

00:56:01.240 makes

00:56:01.440 sense

00:56:01.660 to

00:56:01.820 me

00:56:01.980 but

00:56:02.540 he

00:56:02.940 doesn't

00:56:03.600 live

00:56:03.840 in

00:56:04.020 DC

00:56:04.300 he's

00:56:04.780 been

00:56:04.940 in

00:56:05.100 Canada

00:56:05.420 since

00:56:06.380 the

00:56:09.020 16th

00:56:09.660 when

00:56:10.220 Christia

00:56:11.580 Freeland

00:56:11.820 resigned

00:56:12.240 he

00:56:12.680 cancelled

00:56:13.060 all

00:56:13.460 of

00:56:13.580 his

00:56:13.680 end

00:56:13.880 of

00:56:14.000 year

00:56:14.180 interviews

00:56:14.740 Paul

00:56:15.040 Wells

00:56:15.260 said

00:56:15.500 in

00:56:15.600 his

00:56:15.740 30

00:56:16.000 years

00:56:16.240 of

00:56:16.380 covering

00:56:16.660 Ottawa

00:56:16.940 he's

00:56:17.280 never

00:56:17.580 seen

00:56:17.860 that

00:56:18.040 happen

00:56:18.360 before

00:56:18.740 so

00:56:19.280 at

00:56:19.440 any

00:56:19.660 point

00:56:19.900 he

00:56:20.080 could

00:56:20.360 have

00:56:20.500 sat

00:56:20.780 for

00:56:20.940 an

00:56:21.040 interview

00:56:21.280 in

00:56:21.480 Canada

00:56:21.800 and

00:56:22.220 that

00:56:22.480 to

00:56:22.660 me

00:56:22.900 is

00:56:23.300 the

00:56:23.960 most

00:56:24.340 jarring

00:56:24.800 thing

00:56:25.080 that

00:56:25.300 they

00:56:25.940 went

00:56:26.420 to

00:56:26.540 somewhere

00:56:26.800 where

00:56:26.980 he

00:56:27.080 would

00:56:27.180 get

00:56:27.300 absolutely

00:56:27.960 no

00:56:28.180 pushback

00:56:28.700 on

00:56:28.960 anything

00:56:29.440 he

00:56:29.620 had

00:56:29.720 to

00:56:29.840 say

00:56:30.060 well

00:56:31.700 Anthony

00:56:32.480 you

00:56:32.700 make

00:56:32.860 a

00:56:32.980 good

00:56:33.140 point

00:56:33.500 in

00:56:33.760 terms

00:56:34.080 of

00:56:34.240 he

00:56:34.460 sinking

00:56:34.820 to

00:56:35.200 his

00:56:35.540 year

00:56:35.920 and

00:56:36.160 years

00:56:36.440 ahead

00:56:36.840 hi

00:56:37.340 Warren

00:56:37.660 and

00:56:38.000 I

00:56:38.080 worked

00:56:38.340 together

00:56:38.720 it

00:56:39.940 was

00:56:40.360 fine

00:56:40.680 I

00:56:40.880 also

00:56:41.160 agree

00:56:41.580 you

00:56:42.040 know

00:56:42.140 Ben

00:56:42.520 Canadians

00:56:43.080 probably

00:56:43.360 like

00:56:43.620 CNN

00:56:43.900 more

00:56:44.220 than

00:56:44.380 Americans

00:56:44.760 these

00:56:45.060 days

00:56:45.320 they're

00:56:45.700 really

00:56:46.140 struggling

00:56:46.720 with

00:56:46.980 their

00:56:47.160 numbers

00:56:47.560 especially

00:56:48.040 with

00:56:48.320 TV

00:56:48.540 in

00:56:48.700 the

00:56:48.800 US

00:56:49.120 and

00:56:49.660 also

00:56:50.100 the

00:56:50.380 larger

00:56:50.700 reach

00:56:51.160 are

00:56:51.560 the

00:56:51.740 headlines

00:56:52.200 off

00:56:52.820 the

00:56:53.020 interview

00:56:53.460 yeah

00:56:54.480 he

00:56:54.660 was

00:56:54.920 attending

00:56:55.240 Jimmy

00:56:55.560 Carter's

00:56:56.080 funeral

00:56:56.540 and

00:56:56.820 Jimmy

00:56:57.140 Carter

00:56:57.700 attended

00:56:58.200 his

00:56:58.760 father's

00:56:59.340 funeral

00:56:59.720 as

00:57:00.060 well

00:57:00.360 he

00:57:00.720 has

00:57:00.820 to

00:57:00.920 keep

00:57:01.100 being

00:57:01.300 the

00:57:01.480 prime

00:57:01.760 minister

00:57:02.080 this

00:57:02.420 was

00:57:02.760 a

00:57:02.940 strategic

00:57:03.380 decision

00:57:04.620 I

00:57:05.340 think

00:57:05.520 the

00:57:05.660 larger

00:57:05.920 question

00:57:06.740 that

00:57:06.980 is

00:57:07.120 ongoing

00:57:07.540 for

00:57:08.060 everyone

00:57:08.540 is

00:57:08.920 how

00:57:09.520 do

00:57:09.800 you

00:57:09.940 most

00:57:10.220 effectively

00:57:11.020 get

00:57:11.440 messages

00:57:11.840 to

00:57:12.100 Donald

00:57:12.360 Trump

00:57:12.760 in

00:57:13.140 2016

00:57:13.680 I

00:57:14.180 worked

00:57:14.480 at

00:57:14.700 Twitter

00:57:15.240 the

00:57:16.080 artist

00:57:16.760 platform

00:57:17.160 probably

00:57:17.600 known as

00:57:19.000 Twitter

00:57:19.260 and

00:57:19.780 I

00:57:19.940 remember

00:57:20.460 Donald

00:57:20.900 Trump's

00:57:21.220 own

00:57:21.540 team

00:57:22.240 couldn't

00:57:22.940 even

00:57:23.340 get

00:57:23.720 messages

00:57:24.140 across

00:57:24.580 to

00:57:24.760 them

00:57:24.940 so

00:57:25.520 he

00:57:26.020 would

00:57:26.300 they

00:57:26.980 would

00:57:27.180 leak

00:57:27.480 articles

00:57:27.920 to

00:57:28.080 the

00:57:28.220 press

00:57:28.520 so

00:57:28.740 Donald

00:57:29.260 Trump

00:57:29.620 would

00:57:30.000 read

00:57:30.260 the

00:57:30.440 press

00:57:30.840 and

00:57:31.360 then

00:57:31.480 be

00:57:31.660 influenced

00:57:32.120 from

00:57:32.640 his

00:57:32.820 own

00:57:33.080 team

00:57:33.420 so

00:57:33.780 it's

00:57:34.340 it's

00:57:34.520 a tough

00:57:35.080 game

00:57:35.300 with

00:57:35.440 Donald

00:57:35.660 Trump

00:57:35.920 no

00:57:36.180 one's

00:57:36.340 really

00:57:36.520 figured

00:57:36.780 it

00:57:36.940 out

00:57:37.100 including

00:57:37.520 those

00:57:37.780 closest

00:57:38.120 to

00:57:38.300 him

00:57:38.460 the

00:57:38.820 one

00:57:39.240 piece

00:57:40.220 of

00:57:40.580 information

00:57:41.040 that

00:57:41.220 came

00:57:41.420 out

00:57:41.600 in

00:57:41.740 this

00:57:41.880 article

00:57:42.080 that

00:57:42.240 actually

00:57:49.000 information

00:57:49.440 creating

00:57:49.800 the

00:57:50.020 feeling

00:57:50.560 that

00:57:51.400 his

00:57:51.580 government

00:57:51.920 has

00:57:52.160 been

00:57:52.300 bad

00:57:52.540 for

00:57:52.720 Canada

00:57:53.020 let's

00:57:53.280 listen

00:57:53.440 when

00:57:53.880 you

00:57:54.100 get

00:57:54.460 a

00:57:55.040 conflagration

00:57:58.720 but at

00:57:59.020 least

00:57:59.220 an

00:57:59.760 intersection

00:58:00.580 of

00:58:01.220 both

00:58:02.840 right-wing

00:58:04.940 policy

00:58:05.480 right-wing

00:58:06.120 attacks

00:58:06.960 and social

00:58:07.760 media

00:58:08.140 you end

00:58:08.900 up with

00:58:09.480 a lot

00:58:10.260 of

00:58:10.360 misinformation

00:58:10.860 disinformation

00:58:11.600 and

00:58:12.180 responsible

00:58:13.080 governments

00:58:13.560 have to

00:58:13.980 stay

00:58:14.160 focused

00:58:14.480 on the

00:58:14.800 policies

00:58:15.220 that are

00:58:15.500 making

00:58:15.720 a

00:58:15.860 difference

00:58:16.080 and

00:58:16.240 that's

00:58:16.440 what

00:58:16.520 we've

00:58:16.720 been

00:58:16.820 doing

00:58:17.020 Warren

00:58:17.740 he's

00:58:18.400 saying

00:58:18.700 it's

00:58:18.900 not

00:58:19.060 me

00:58:19.740 it's

00:58:20.020 you

00:58:20.280 you're

00:58:21.140 just

00:58:21.320 too

00:58:21.500 dumb

00:58:21.700 to

00:58:21.840 know

00:58:22.080 how

00:58:22.360 good

00:58:22.700 you

00:58:22.820 got

00:58:23.080 it

00:58:23.280 yeah

00:58:24.160 I thought

00:58:24.500 it was

00:58:24.720 rich

00:58:25.000 he would

00:58:25.340 say

00:58:25.580 that

00:58:25.820 actually

00:58:26.400 to

00:58:26.880 Jake

00:58:27.340 Tapper's

00:58:27.980 face

00:58:28.360 Jake

00:58:29.040 Tapper

00:58:29.420 is the

00:58:29.780 guy

00:58:30.000 who

00:58:30.200 famously

00:58:30.680 came

00:58:31.140 up

00:58:31.340 with

00:58:31.580 the

00:58:31.880 word

00:58:32.380 true

00:58:32.760 and

00:58:32.920 on

00:58:33.200 to

00:58:33.760 describe

00:58:34.280 the

00:58:34.680 horde

00:58:35.280 of

00:58:35.460 winged

00:58:35.880 monkeys

00:58:36.340 that

00:58:36.620 come

00:58:36.800 after

00:58:37.120 you

00:58:37.460 or

00:58:37.880 used

00:58:38.120 to

00:58:38.260 come

00:58:38.400 after

00:58:38.660 you

00:58:38.900 if

00:58:39.100 you

00:58:39.260 deign

00:58:39.680 to

00:58:40.000 be

00:58:40.720 in

00:58:41.080 any

00:58:41.300 way

00:58:41.480 critical

00:58:41.880 of

00:58:42.080 the

00:58:42.200 prime

00:58:42.400 minister

00:58:42.780 so

00:58:43.680 you

00:58:44.360 know

00:58:44.600 the

00:58:45.040 stuff

00:58:45.980 online

00:58:46.500 we

00:58:46.740 all

00:58:46.960 you

00:58:47.140 know

00:58:47.200 the

00:58:47.340 three

00:58:47.520 of

00:58:47.640 us

00:58:47.780 and

00:58:47.900 hi

00:58:48.080 Jen

00:58:48.260 we

00:58:49.280 all

00:58:49.480 know

00:58:49.620 what

00:58:49.760 it's

00:58:49.940 like

00:58:50.240 you

00:58:50.900 know

00:58:51.040 it

00:58:51.160 comes

00:58:51.380 at

00:58:51.560 you

00:58:51.660 from

00:58:51.880 the

00:58:52.060 left

00:58:52.280 and

00:58:52.540 the

00:58:52.680 right

00:58:52.920 you

00:58:53.180 know

00:58:53.360 and

00:58:53.600 it's

00:58:53.740 like

00:58:53.880 suck

00:58:54.160 it

00:58:54.280 up

00:58:54.480 if

00:58:54.640 you

00:58:54.720 don't

00:58:54.900 like

00:58:55.140 it

00:58:55.320 then

00:58:55.460 get

00:58:55.640 off

00:58:55.820 social

00:58:56.120 media

00:58:56.420 get

00:58:57.000 off

00:58:57.220 X

00:58:57.560 you

00:58:57.780 know

00:58:57.880 it's

00:58:58.020 not

00:58:58.160 a

00:58:58.280 bed

00:58:58.420 of

00:58:58.560 roses

00:58:58.880 but

00:59:00.320 you

00:59:00.800 know

00:59:01.060 how

00:59:02.740 did

00:59:02.960 he

00:59:03.100 become

00:59:03.440 unpopular

00:59:04.040 it

00:59:05.020 wasn't

00:59:05.420 right

00:59:05.700 wing

00:59:05.940 media

00:59:06.400 on

00:59:06.800 X

00:59:07.300 you

00:59:07.560 know

00:59:07.680 he

00:59:07.880 became

00:59:08.240 unpopular

00:59:08.740 because

00:59:09.180 he

00:59:09.380 stayed

00:59:09.660 too

00:59:09.920 long

00:59:10.320 you

00:59:10.940 know

00:59:11.020 the

00:59:11.140 decision

00:59:11.500 he

00:59:11.700 made

00:59:11.900 on

00:59:12.080 Monday

00:59:12.380 and

00:59:12.540 it

00:59:12.640 feels

00:59:12.800 like

00:59:12.960 a

00:59:13.100 lifetime

00:59:13.400 ago

00:59:13.780 already

00:59:14.180 he

00:59:15.420 should

00:59:15.640 have

00:59:15.720 made

00:59:15.840 that

00:59:16.020 decision

00:59:16.400 a

00:59:16.620 year

00:59:16.860 ago

00:59:17.200 and

00:59:17.560 it

00:59:17.660 doesn't

00:59:17.860 matter

00:59:18.100 whether

00:59:18.340 you're

00:59:18.540 a

00:59:18.620 new

00:59:18.720 Democrat

00:59:19.140 conservative

00:59:19.880 liberal

00:59:20.720 if

00:59:21.200 the

00:59:21.740 people

00:59:22.060 feel

00:59:22.380 you're

00:59:22.600 there

00:59:22.740 too

00:59:23.000 long

00:59:23.240 they

00:59:23.400 get

00:59:23.560 sick

00:59:23.820 of

00:59:23.920 your

00:59:24.020 face

00:59:24.400 and

00:59:25.000 you

00:59:32.960 people

00:59:33.100 to

00:59:33.800 the

00:59:33.960 extraordinary

00:59:34.440 extent

00:59:34.900 that

00:59:35.100 he

00:59:35.200 may

00:59:35.360 be

00:59:35.500 as

00:59:35.660 much

00:59:35.880 as

00:59:36.020 25

00:59:36.420 points

00:59:36.900 behind

00:59:37.380 Pierre

00:59:37.660 Polyev

00:59:38.180 he

00:59:38.860 just

00:59:39.040 stayed

00:59:39.260 too

00:59:39.480 long

00:59:39.760 people

00:59:40.260 got

00:59:40.480 fed

00:59:40.740 up

00:59:40.920 with

00:59:41.060 him

00:59:41.200 that's

00:59:41.540 why

00:59:41.660 he's

00:59:41.820 losing

00:59:42.140 Jen

00:59:42.900 does

00:59:43.160 he

00:59:43.500 believe

00:59:44.040 what

00:59:44.380 he

00:59:44.500 said

00:59:44.780 about

00:59:45.340 misinformation

00:59:46.280 does

00:59:47.320 he

00:59:47.420 really

00:59:47.660 believe

00:59:48.040 that

00:59:48.280 Canadians

00:59:49.240 are

00:59:49.480 doing

00:59:49.680 very

00:59:49.900 well

00:59:50.020 he's

00:59:51.100 leading

00:59:51.340 a

00:59:51.460 responsible

00:59:51.860 government

00:59:52.300 he

00:59:53.180 might

00:59:53.680 and

00:59:53.960 that's

00:59:54.260 a

00:59:54.380 problem

00:59:54.780 we

00:59:55.260 ran

00:59:55.480 a

00:59:55.660 story

00:59:55.980 at

00:59:56.140 the

00:59:56.240 walrus.ca

00:59:56.880 this

00:59:57.160 week

00:59:57.500 and

00:59:57.880 the

00:59:58.000 headline

00:59:58.300 is

00:59:58.640 10

00:59:59.280 other

00:59:59.580 times

01:00:00.060 Justin

01:00:00.480 Trudeau

01:00:00.860 could

01:00:01.060 have

01:00:01.180 stepped

01:00:01.420 down

01:00:01.740 there

01:00:02.020 have

01:00:02.100 been

01:00:02.180 a lot

01:00:02.420 of

01:00:02.560 scandals

01:00:03.140 and

01:00:03.760 at

01:00:03.860 the

01:00:03.960 beginning

01:00:04.320 of his

01:00:04.700 answer

01:00:05.200 on

01:00:05.800 CNN

01:00:06.100 he

01:00:06.860 said

01:00:07.060 a lot

01:00:07.460 of

01:00:07.600 feelings

01:00:07.920 are

01:00:08.100 involved

01:00:08.440 yes

01:00:09.080 Canadians

01:00:10.240 have

01:00:10.740 feelings

01:00:11.320 politics

01:00:12.020 is about

01:00:13.060 feelings

01:00:13.840 that's

01:00:14.320 what

01:00:14.480 approval

01:00:15.060 ratings

01:00:15.600 come

01:00:15.960 from

01:00:16.240 he

01:00:16.720 mentioned

01:00:17.160 a

01:00:17.320 dollar

01:00:18.000 head

01:00:18.200 of

01:00:18.320 lettuce

01:00:21.860 Canadians

01:00:22.380 are

01:00:22.600 struggling

01:00:22.920 with

01:00:23.200 the

01:00:23.320 cost

01:00:23.580 of

01:00:23.720 living

01:00:24.000 he

01:00:24.820 mentioned

01:00:25.200 incumbents

01:00:25.800 are

01:00:25.920 in

01:00:26.040 trouble

01:00:26.280 around

01:00:26.560 the

01:00:26.740 world

01:00:26.960 that

01:00:27.240 is

01:00:27.440 true

01:00:27.860 then

01:00:28.680 he

01:00:29.100 highlighted

01:00:29.680 some

01:00:30.060 of

01:00:30.160 the

01:00:30.220 change

01:00:30.500 he

01:00:30.680 made

01:00:31.340 as

01:00:32.140 prime

01:00:32.340 minister

01:00:32.620 child

01:00:33.000 care

01:00:33.200 dental

01:00:33.640 care

01:00:33.820 he

01:00:34.080 should

01:00:34.300 have

01:00:34.440 stopped

01:00:34.700 there

01:00:34.980 but

01:00:35.240 Ben

01:00:35.620 to your

01:00:35.820 point

01:00:36.060 perhaps

01:00:36.500 he

01:00:36.940 was

01:00:37.120 sharing

01:00:37.500 with

01:00:37.900 us

01:00:38.060 how

01:00:38.200 he's

01:00:38.380 thinking

01:00:38.620 Anthony

01:00:39.580 what are

01:00:39.940 your

01:00:40.040 thoughts

01:00:40.300 you get

01:00:40.500 the final

01:00:40.780 thought

01:00:40.980 on this

01:00:41.320 yeah

01:00:42.240 well I

01:00:42.520 mean

01:00:42.660 again

01:00:43.460 I

01:00:43.740 just

01:00:43.880 want

01:00:43.980 to

01:00:44.040 take

01:00:44.180 issue

01:00:44.380 I

01:00:44.520 do

01:00:44.660 agree

01:00:44.920 that

01:00:45.060 there's

01:00:45.260 a

01:00:45.380 cycle

01:00:45.660 in

01:00:45.840 Canada

01:00:46.080 right

01:00:46.300 around

01:00:46.500 the

01:00:46.640 10

01:00:46.860 year

01:00:47.040 mark

01:00:47.240 people

01:00:47.440 get

01:00:47.640 tired

01:00:47.880 of

01:00:48.020 your

01:00:48.140 face

01:00:48.600 but

01:00:49.160 it's

01:00:49.300 important

01:00:49.600 to

01:00:49.800 note

01:00:50.000 Stephen

01:00:50.300 Harper

01:00:50.600 was

01:00:50.820 prime

01:00:51.060 minister

01:00:51.280 for 10

01:00:51.720 years

01:00:52.300 he did

01:00:52.580 lose

01:00:52.780 an

01:00:52.900 election

01:00:53.200 but he

01:00:53.500 still

01:00:53.660 got

01:00:53.860 32%

01:00:54.520 of

01:00:54.640 the

01:00:54.740 vote

01:00:54.900 and had

01:00:55.080 a

01:00:55.140 very

01:00:55.300 strong

01:00:55.600 opposition

01:00:56.080 right

01:00:56.520 Kretzian

01:00:57.240 Martin

01:00:57.480 governed

01:00:57.820 the

01:00:57.980 country

01:00:58.220 for a

01:00:58.520 decade

01:00:58.760 and

01:00:58.940 they

01:00:59.060 did

01:00:59.240 lose

01:00:59.480 to

01:00:59.640 Harper

01:00:59.880 in

01:01:00.060 2006

01:01:00.600 but

01:01:00.960 a

01:01:01.080 small

01:01:01.540 minority

01:01:01.860 government

01:01:02.220 the

01:01:02.440 liberal

01:01:02.620 party

01:01:02.900 still

01:01:03.140 did

01:01:03.320 reasonably

01:01:03.740 well

01:01:04.180 the

01:01:04.920 unique

01:01:05.480 situation

01:01:06.040 we

01:01:06.280 find

01:01:06.560 ourselves

01:01:06.980 in

01:01:07.240 the

01:01:07.360 sort

01:01:07.500 of

01:01:07.620 Kathleen

01:01:08.140 Wynne

01:01:08.980 Justin

01:01:09.340 Trudeau

01:01:09.900 collapse

01:01:10.520 is

01:01:11.400 yes

01:01:11.880 in

01:01:12.100 large

01:01:12.440 part

01:01:12.780 a

01:01:12.920 function

01:01:13.220 of

01:01:13.400 people

01:01:13.620 being

01:01:13.820 in

01:01:13.980 government

01:01:14.260 for a

01:01:14.580 long

01:01:14.740 period

01:01:14.980 of

01:01:15.120 time

01:01:15.340 but

01:01:15.540 it's

01:01:15.700 also

01:01:15.940 a

01:01:16.140 function

01:01:16.340 of

01:01:16.540 policy

01:01:16.880 failures

01:01:17.320 and

01:01:17.480 I

01:01:17.600 think

01:01:17.760 that's

01:01:18.420 the

01:01:18.540 difficulty

01:01:18.960 that I

01:01:19.400 see

01:01:19.620 with

01:01:19.780 the

01:01:19.900 liberal

01:01:20.080 party

01:01:20.380 right

01:01:20.580 now

01:01:20.800 it's

01:01:21.080 a

01:01:23.060 communications

01:01:23.540 issue

01:01:23.900 it's

01:01:24.060 a

01:01:24.140 communications

01:01:24.620 issue

01:01:24.980 people

01:01:25.500 just

01:01:25.740 don't

01:01:26.020 know

01:01:26.220 how

01:01:26.460 great

01:01:26.780 they

01:01:26.960 have

01:01:27.280 it

01:01:27.400 and

01:01:27.480 the

01:01:27.580 fact

01:01:27.760 of

01:01:27.900 the

01:01:27.920 matter

01:01:28.120 is

01:01:28.720 Pierre

01:01:28.980 Polyev

01:01:29.620 and

01:01:29.840 other

01:01:30.100 kinds

01:01:30.420 of

01:01:30.540 conservatives

01:01:31.000 who

01:01:31.420 are

01:01:32.140 capitalizing

01:01:33.120 on the

01:01:33.380 suffering

01:01:33.740 that people

01:01:34.180 are experiencing

01:01:34.900 right now

01:01:35.400 an angry

01:01:36.560 message

01:01:37.040 doesn't

01:01:37.940 work

01:01:38.500 unless

01:01:39.040 people

01:01:39.560 are

01:01:39.780 already

01:01:40.260 angry

01:01:40.760 so

01:01:41.100 it's

01:01:41.280 not

01:01:41.440 so

01:01:41.620 much

01:01:41.780 about

01:01:42.000 making

01:01:42.380 people

01:01:42.800 angry

01:01:43.220 so

01:01:43.800 much

01:01:44.040 as

01:01:44.200 it

01:01:44.280 is

01:01:44.400 about

01:01:44.580 tapping

01:01:45.060 into

01:01:45.560 a

01:01:45.780 sentiment

01:01:46.180 Anthony

01:01:46.680 we're

01:01:46.900 going to

01:01:47.020 stick

01:01:48.360 a pin

01:01:48.640 in

01:01:48.760 this

01:01:48.960 welcome

01:01:49.600 back

01:01:49.860 to the

01:01:50.040 Ben Mulroney

01:01:50.480 show

01:01:50.680 and

01:01:50.800 welcome

01:01:51.060 back

01:01:51.420 to

01:01:51.680 our

01:01:51.960 political

01:01:52.360 panel

01:01:52.740 for

01:01:52.940 this

01:01:53.180 week

01:01:53.460 in

01:01:53.640 politics

01:01:54.100 continued

01:01:54.860 Warren

01:01:55.440 Anthony

01:01:56.120 Jennifer

01:01:56.680 thanks so

01:01:57.140 much

01:01:57.280 for

01:01:57.420 sticking

01:01:57.700 around

01:01:58.000 pleasure

01:01:59.380 Pierre

01:02:00.340 Polyev

01:02:00.620 gave

01:02:00.900 a

01:02:01.220 pretty

01:02:01.380 big

01:02:01.580 speech

01:02:01.960 yesterday

01:02:02.460 when

01:02:03.280 he was

01:02:03.700 asked

01:02:04.060 a

01:02:04.220 question

01:02:04.520 about

01:02:04.840 given

01:02:05.400 the

01:02:05.680 looming

01:02:06.020 tariff

01:02:06.640 threat

01:02:06.960 by

01:02:07.160 Donald

01:02:07.440 Trump

01:02:07.800 should

01:02:08.020 he

01:02:08.160 not

01:02:08.400 pivot

01:02:08.720 away

01:02:09.060 from

01:02:09.740 banging

01:02:10.160 the

01:02:10.380 drum

01:02:10.640 of

01:02:11.000 the

01:02:11.200 carbon

01:02:11.580 tax

01:02:12.020 and

01:02:12.560 axing

01:02:13.040 the

01:02:13.160 tax

01:02:13.440 in

01:02:13.580 a

01:02:13.720 carbon

01:02:13.960 tax

01:02:14.300 election

01:02:14.720 here's

01:02:14.940 what

01:02:15.020 he had

01:02:15.180 to

01:02:15.280 say

01:02:15.440 for

01:02:15.740 the

01:02:15.880 first

01:02:16.060 time

01:02:16.260 in

01:02:16.340 our

01:02:16.440 living

01:02:16.620 memory

01:02:16.880 a

01:02:17.060 U.S.

01:02:17.360 president

01:02:17.580 is

01:02:17.800 directly

01:02:18.220 threatening

01:02:18.700 our

01:02:19.000 country

01:02:19.400 and we

01:02:20.020 have

01:02:20.180 an

01:02:20.300 election

01:02:20.580 that's

01:02:20.880 only

01:02:21.080 weeks

01:02:21.360 away

01:02:21.680 likely

01:02:22.200 why

01:02:23.020 can

01:02:23.320 you

01:02:23.420 walk

01:02:23.600 us

01:02:23.720 through

01:02:23.840 why

01:02:24.080 you

01:02:24.220 think

01:02:24.440 ax

01:02:24.800 the

01:02:24.960 tax

01:02:25.400 is

01:02:25.680 still

01:02:25.960 the

01:02:26.120 ballot

01:02:26.340 box

01:02:26.580 question

01:02:27.000 for

01:02:27.260 this

01:02:27.440 election

01:02:27.780 and

01:02:28.060 not

01:02:28.220 something

01:02:28.500 else

01:02:28.840 yes

01:02:31.060 because

01:02:31.340 I

01:02:31.520 think

01:02:31.800 that

01:02:32.200 it's

01:02:33.880 ironic

01:02:34.240 we

01:02:34.480 have

01:02:34.720 an

01:02:35.400 American

01:02:35.840 president

01:02:36.360 who's

01:02:36.800 threatening

01:02:37.220 tariffs

01:02:37.760 on

01:02:38.000 Canada

01:02:38.340 and

01:02:38.660 we

01:02:38.780 have

01:02:38.940 a

01:02:39.060 Canadian

01:02:39.440 government

01:02:40.940 that is

01:02:41.380 threatening

01:02:41.720 even more

01:02:42.280 devastating

01:02:42.840 tariffs

01:02:43.400 on

01:02:43.680 Canada

01:02:44.020 in the

01:02:45.040 form

01:02:45.220 of

01:02:45.340 a

01:02:45.420 carbon

01:02:45.680 tax

01:02:46.180 Warren

01:02:47.560 Kinsella

01:02:48.100 my two

01:02:48.600 cents

01:02:48.860 are

01:02:49.100 that

01:02:49.260 was

01:02:49.360 a

01:02:49.480 great

01:02:49.700 question

01:02:50.160 and

01:02:50.520 a

01:02:50.660 great

01:02:50.840 answer

01:02:51.160 yeah

01:02:52.240 I

01:02:52.400 think

01:02:52.560 both

01:02:52.860 it's

01:02:53.340 a

01:02:53.460 reasonable

01:02:53.760 question

01:02:54.220 I've

01:02:54.460 got

01:02:54.540 a

01:02:54.660 column

01:02:54.920 about

01:02:55.280 it

01:02:55.560 in

01:02:55.800 the

01:02:56.080 post

01:02:56.580 media

01:02:56.840 this

01:02:57.140 weekend

01:02:57.520 I

01:02:58.140 just

01:02:58.340 think

01:02:58.640 you

01:02:59.000 know

01:02:59.180 it's

01:02:59.500 events

01:02:59.840 dear

01:03:00.080 boy

01:03:00.320 events

01:03:00.740 right

01:03:01.040 you

01:03:01.240 know

01:03:01.360 the

01:03:01.460 world

01:03:01.720 has

01:03:01.940 changed

01:03:02.220 dramatically

01:03:02.800 since

01:03:08.660 things

01:03:08.880 that

01:03:09.000 happened

01:03:09.380 the

01:03:10.000 main

01:03:10.480 two

01:03:11.100 things

01:03:11.460 that

01:03:11.600 have

01:03:11.720 happened

01:03:12.080 the

01:03:12.360 biggest

01:03:12.620 changes

01:03:13.100 you

01:03:13.620 know

01:03:13.720 Trudeau

01:03:14.000 is

01:03:14.100 going

01:03:14.200 to

01:03:14.240 be

01:03:14.360 gone

01:03:14.640 in

01:03:14.780 less

01:03:14.960 than

01:03:15.100 two

01:03:15.260 months

01:03:15.600 he's

01:03:15.880 going

01:03:16.000 to

01:03:16.040 be

01:03:16.160 a

01:03:16.280 memory

01:03:16.600 I

01:03:17.180 do

01:03:17.340 believe

01:03:17.700 that

01:03:17.920 the

01:03:18.680 the

01:03:18.920 carbon

01:03:19.900 tax

01:03:20.300 is

01:03:20.480 dead

01:03:20.680 too

01:03:20.940 as

01:03:21.100 a

01:03:21.220 consequence

01:03:21.620 of

01:03:22.020 the

01:03:22.300 exclusions

01:03:23.620 that

01:03:24.020 Trudeau

01:03:24.640 himself

01:03:25.240 created

01:03:25.960 for it

01:03:26.480 following

01:03:27.040 protests

01:03:27.640 in

01:03:27.860 Atlanta

01:03:28.100 Canada

01:03:28.500 but

01:03:29.000 the

01:03:29.140 big

01:03:29.320 issue

01:03:29.580 is

01:03:29.740 Trump

01:03:30.040 you

01:03:30.320 know

01:03:30.420 you've

01:03:30.660 got

01:03:30.940 the

01:03:31.780 president

01:03:32.120 elect

01:03:32.420 in

01:03:32.540 the

01:03:32.640 United

01:03:32.820 States

01:03:33.140 is

01:03:33.600 publishing

01:03:34.740 maps

01:03:35.440 without

01:03:36.300 Canada

01:03:36.900 on

01:03:37.280 it

01:03:37.480 he's

01:03:38.660 saying

01:03:39.380 he's

01:03:39.560 going

01:03:39.680 to

01:03:39.780 use

01:03:40.060 economic

01:03:40.940 force

01:03:41.460 against

01:03:41.860 us

01:03:42.260 he's

01:03:43.040 mocking

01:03:43.440 us

01:03:43.800 just

01:03:44.060 about

01:03:44.280 every

01:03:44.500 single

01:03:44.720 day

01:03:44.940 he did

01:03:45.160 it

01:03:45.260 again

01:03:45.480 last

01:03:45.800 night

01:03:46.080 he's

01:03:46.580 not

01:03:46.720 just

01:03:46.940 attacking

01:03:47.440 Trudeau

01:03:48.100 he's

01:03:48.340 attacking

01:03:48.700 Pierre

01:03:49.040 Polly

01:03:49.380 said

01:03:49.880 this

01:03:50.080 week

01:03:50.260 he

01:03:50.380 doesn't

01:03:50.620 care

01:03:50.900 whether

01:03:51.460 Polly

01:03:51.840 wins

01:03:52.260 or

01:03:52.480 loses

01:03:52.740 doesn't

01:03:53.100 care

01:03:53.260 what

01:03:53.440 Polly

01:03:53.740 says

01:03:54.360 like

01:03:55.080 this

01:03:55.280 guy

01:03:55.520 is

01:03:55.720 a

01:03:55.880 threat

01:03:56.200 to

01:03:56.500 all

01:03:56.780 of

01:03:56.940 us

01:03:57.120 right

01:03:57.520 left

01:03:58.000 east

01:03:58.400 west

01:03:58.780 young

01:03:59.180 old

01:03:59.640 this

01:04:00.300 is

01:04:00.600 the

01:04:00.820 ballot

01:04:01.100 question

01:04:01.680 and I

01:04:01.980 thought

01:04:02.120 that was

01:04:02.580 the right

01:04:03.040 question

01:04:03.880 to ask

01:04:04.520 I think

01:04:05.500 and I'm

01:04:06.800 going to

01:04:06.960 take this

01:04:07.300 position

01:04:07.720 this

01:04:08.020 weekend

01:04:08.360 I think

01:04:09.360 Polly

01:04:09.640 is

01:04:09.840 fighting

01:04:10.140 the

01:04:10.360 last

01:04:10.680 war

01:04:11.020 I

01:04:11.320 think

01:04:11.480 the

01:04:11.640 carbon

01:04:11.980 tax

01:04:12.320 has

01:04:12.460 been

01:04:12.600 dead

01:04:12.800 for

01:04:12.940 quite

01:04:13.160 some

01:04:13.380 time

01:04:13.720 and

01:04:14.680 nobody

01:04:15.320 likes

01:04:15.660 it

01:04:15.800 nobody

01:04:16.020 likes

01:04:16.340 taxes

01:04:16.900 the

01:04:17.460 big

01:04:17.700 issue

01:04:18.100 is

01:04:18.560 the

01:04:18.720 threat

01:04:19.060 that

01:04:19.240 is

01:04:19.380 posed

01:04:19.660 by

01:04:20.000 Donald

01:04:20.360 Trump

01:04:20.700 because

01:04:21.280 right

01:04:21.600 now

01:04:21.960 it

01:04:22.320 doesn't

01:04:22.640 feel

01:04:22.840 like

01:04:26.940 like

01:04:27.340 the

01:04:27.500 United

01:04:27.700 States

01:04:28.020 is

01:04:28.200 our

01:04:28.360 adversary

01:04:28.900 Jen

01:04:29.760 Hollett

01:04:30.120 I think

01:04:30.800 Warren

01:04:30.980 makes

01:04:31.160 a few

01:04:31.360 good

01:04:31.520 points

01:04:31.780 there

01:04:31.900 what

01:04:32.000 do

01:04:32.080 you

01:04:32.120 think

01:04:32.340 well

01:04:33.380 Warren

01:04:33.680 yeah

01:04:33.880 what

01:04:34.180 a year

01:04:34.500 2025

01:04:35.060 was

01:04:35.820 to think

01:04:36.380 that we

01:04:36.880 are still

01:04:37.380 in early

01:04:37.900 January

01:04:38.440 so much

01:04:39.440 has been

01:04:39.720 happening

01:04:40.040 I can

01:04:40.340 only

01:04:40.600 imagine

01:04:40.940 what's

01:04:41.400 happened

01:04:42.060 while

01:04:42.340 we've

01:04:42.580 been

01:04:42.700 on

01:04:42.880 the

01:04:43.020 air

01:04:43.360 what

01:04:44.460 was

01:04:44.640 so

01:04:44.820 great

01:04:45.060 about

01:04:45.260 that

01:04:45.460 question

01:04:45.860 Ben

01:04:46.120 to

01:04:46.260 your

01:04:46.420 point

01:04:46.780 was

01:04:47.120 he

01:04:47.240 answered

01:04:47.600 it

01:04:47.820 in

01:04:48.060 front

01:04:48.300 of

01:04:48.440 an

01:04:48.620 axe

01:04:48.920 attack

01:04:49.280 sign

01:04:49.840 I

01:04:50.520 think

01:04:50.680 the

01:04:50.840 top

01:04:51.080 issue

01:04:51.360 is

01:04:51.560 cost

01:04:51.840 of

01:04:52.000 living

01:04:52.240 it

01:04:52.480 was

01:04:52.620 very

01:04:52.840 clear

01:04:53.100 in

01:04:53.200 the

01:04:53.300 US

01:04:53.520 election

01:04:53.900 it

01:04:54.060 was

01:04:54.280 for

01:04:54.460 Americans

01:04:54.900 I

01:04:55.480 think

01:04:55.740 that

01:04:56.060 eight

01:04:56.340 dollar

01:04:56.640 head

01:04:56.840 of

01:04:56.980 lettuce

01:04:57.460 that

01:04:57.800 Justin

01:04:58.100 Trudeau

01:04:58.360 mentioned

01:04:58.780 is

01:04:59.320 a

01:04:59.980 real

01:05:00.800 pain

01:05:01.660 that

01:05:01.860 people

01:05:02.160 feel

01:05:02.460 when

01:05:02.680 they're

01:05:02.920 doing

01:05:03.180 groceries

01:05:03.660 Pierre

01:05:04.220 Polly

01:05:04.480 have

01:05:04.680 had

01:05:04.960 a

01:05:05.280 great

01:05:05.480 viral

01:05:05.780 video

01:05:06.100 on

01:05:06.320 housing

01:05:06.800 I

01:05:07.220 think

01:05:07.360 those

01:05:07.760 are

01:05:07.880 the

01:05:08.020 issues

01:05:08.420 that

01:05:08.740 he

01:05:08.920 and

01:05:09.020 all

01:05:09.140 the

01:05:09.260 candidates

01:05:09.540 are

01:05:09.700 going

01:05:09.780 to

01:05:09.820 tap

01:05:10.420 into

01:05:11.260 LA

01:05:12.060 is

01:05:12.280 on

01:05:12.440 fire

01:05:12.760 right

01:05:13.040 now

01:05:13.260 so

01:05:13.460 we

01:05:13.640 can't

01:05:13.940 pretend

01:05:14.260 that

01:05:14.460 the

01:05:14.580 climate

01:05:14.820 crisis

01:05:15.300 is

01:05:15.820 not

01:05:16.120 an

01:05:16.300 issue

01:05:16.580 it's

01:05:16.840 not

01:05:17.200 something

01:05:17.480 that

01:05:17.660 Canadians

01:05:18.020 are

01:05:18.420 following

01:05:18.780 we

01:05:19.360 have

01:05:19.560 been

01:05:19.700 on

01:05:19.880 fire

01:05:20.160 as

01:05:20.600 a

01:05:20.720 country

01:05:21.100 dealing

01:05:21.700 with

01:05:21.880 wildfires

01:05:22.400 across

01:05:22.780 the

01:05:22.920 country

01:05:23.120 that

01:05:23.400 is

01:05:23.640 likely

01:05:23.940 to

01:05:24.440 return

01:05:24.800 and

01:05:24.940 continue

01:05:25.280 so

01:05:25.720 conservatives

01:05:26.960 love

01:05:27.580 and are

01:05:27.800 very

01:05:27.960 effective

01:05:28.340 at

01:05:28.700 saying

01:05:28.880 a word

01:05:29.120 like

01:05:29.400 tax

01:05:29.860 acts

01:05:30.220 to

01:05:30.360 tax

01:05:30.660 it

01:05:30.820 rhymes

01:05:31.140 it's

01:05:31.380 easy

01:05:31.620 to

01:05:31.780 remember

01:05:32.140 and

01:05:33.060 I

01:05:33.340 agree

01:05:33.580 most

01:05:34.160 voters

01:05:34.800 don't

01:05:35.120 like

01:05:35.340 taxes

01:05:35.680 but

01:05:36.260 we

01:05:36.400 all

01:05:36.560 benefit

01:05:36.900 from

01:05:37.280 what

01:05:37.460 taxes

01:05:38.160 pay

01:05:38.620 for

01:05:38.860 whether

01:05:39.140 that's

01:05:39.820 child

01:05:40.280 care

01:05:40.500 health

01:05:40.720 care

01:05:40.900 dental

01:05:41.200 care

01:05:41.480 Anthony

01:05:42.360 you've

01:05:42.760 worked

01:05:42.940 as a

01:05:43.140 former

01:05:43.320 national

01:05:43.720 campaign

01:05:44.280 spokesperson

01:05:44.820 for

01:05:45.360 Pierre

01:05:45.680 Poliev

01:05:46.080 you know

01:05:46.680 the

01:05:47.040 counterpoint

01:05:48.160 to

01:05:48.300 Warren

01:05:48.560 would

01:05:48.740 be

01:05:48.920 if

01:05:49.200 you're

01:05:49.340 in

01:05:49.460 the

01:05:49.580 poll

01:05:49.760 position

01:05:50.140 you

01:05:50.320 get

01:05:50.480 to

01:05:50.620 set

01:05:50.800 the

01:05:50.960 pace

01:05:51.320 and

01:05:52.100 he's

01:05:52.340 in

01:05:52.420 the

01:05:52.500 poll

01:05:52.640 position

01:05:53.020 yeah

01:05:53.700 for

01:05:53.880 sure

01:05:54.020 but

01:05:54.220 even

01:05:54.560 then

01:05:54.780 I

01:05:54.880 think

01:05:55.000 February

01:05:56.560 is

01:05:56.880 going

01:05:57.000 to

01:05:57.040 be

01:05:57.140 a

01:05:57.240 very

01:05:57.380 difficult

01:05:57.760 and

01:05:58.000 complicated

01:05:58.360 month

01:05:58.760 in

01:05:58.940 Canada

01:05:59.280 in

01:05:59.980 the

01:06:00.220 middle

01:06:00.400 of

01:06:00.560 the

01:06:00.660 liberal

01:06:00.860 leadership

01:06:01.220 race

01:06:01.620 lots

01:06:01.880 of

01:06:01.980 stuff

01:06:02.160 is

01:06:02.260 going

01:06:02.340 to

01:06:02.360 be

01:06:02.460 happening

01:06:02.760 and

01:06:03.000 the

01:06:03.400 president

01:06:03.680 will

01:06:03.900 be

01:06:04.020 sworn

01:06:04.260 in

01:06:04.560 and

01:06:04.820 he's

01:06:05.040 going

01:06:05.120 to

01:06:05.220 start

01:06:05.500 laying

01:06:05.920 out

01:06:06.120 his

01:06:06.240 agenda

01:06:06.600 and

01:06:06.920 going

01:06:07.160 hard

01:06:07.540 because

01:06:07.800 he

01:06:07.940 knows

01:06:08.120 we're

01:06:08.280 in

01:06:08.340 a

01:06:08.400 weak

01:06:08.540 position

01:06:08.960 but

01:06:09.780 at

01:06:10.040 the

01:06:10.120 end

01:06:10.180 of

01:06:10.240 the

01:06:10.340 day

01:06:10.620 that's

01:06:11.580 going

01:06:11.680 to

01:06:11.740 be

01:06:11.880 responded

01:06:12.320 to

01:06:12.600 in

01:06:12.780 kind

01:06:13.160 but

01:06:13.380 at

01:06:13.500 the

01:06:13.600 end

01:06:13.680 of

01:06:13.760 the

01:06:13.860 day

01:06:14.000 the

01:06:15.600 first

01:06:16.180 primary

01:06:16.680 issue

01:06:28.000 more

01:06:28.180 expensive

01:06:28.600 than

01:06:28.800 it

01:06:28.900 ever

01:06:29.060 was

01:06:29.380 that's

01:06:29.600 for

01:06:29.720 all

01:06:29.940 sorts

01:06:30.320 of

01:06:30.440 issues

01:06:30.680 and

01:06:30.860 I

01:06:30.980 think

01:06:31.140 the

01:06:31.340 carbon

01:06:31.680 tax

01:06:32.120 is

01:06:32.880 the

01:06:33.140 focal

01:06:33.460 point

01:06:33.760 the

01:06:33.920 representation

01:06:34.540 when

01:06:35.140 you

01:06:35.260 talk

01:06:35.440 about

01:06:35.640 the

01:06:35.900 carbon

01:06:37.220 tax

01:06:37.560 it's

01:06:38.120 really

01:06:38.480 a

01:06:38.880 way

01:06:39.100 to

01:06:39.320 effectively

01:06:39.760 signal

01:06:40.220 and

01:06:40.480 communicate

01:06:40.920 that

01:06:41.440 you're

01:06:41.620 taking

01:06:41.900 affordability

01:06:42.640 very

01:06:43.020 seriously

01:06:43.480 and

01:06:43.840 that's

01:06:44.160 priority

01:06:44.600 number

01:06:45.160 one

01:06:45.580 for

01:06:46.040 your

01:06:46.380 government

01:06:46.760 so

01:06:47.440 I

01:06:47.680 think

01:06:47.880 that's

01:06:48.100 not

01:06:48.240 going

01:06:48.560 to

01:06:48.660 change

01:06:49.080 but

01:06:49.740 obviously

01:06:50.220 we're

01:06:50.720 in

01:06:50.920 uncharted

01:06:51.560 waters

01:06:52.120 Mr.

01:06:52.820 Polyev

01:06:53.260 has

01:06:53.400 responded

01:06:53.880 to

01:06:54.080 all

01:06:54.240 sorts

01:06:54.500 of

01:06:54.600 things

01:06:54.800 that

01:06:54.920 have

01:06:55.000 been

01:06:55.100 thrown

01:06:55.320 his

01:06:55.520 way

01:06:55.700 over

01:06:55.840 the

01:06:55.940 course

01:06:56.180 of

01:06:56.300 his

01:06:56.380 political

01:06:56.620 career

01:06:56.900 I

01:06:57.000 don't

01:06:57.140 think

01:06:57.320 this

01:06:57.520 is

01:06:57.640 going

01:06:57.780 to

01:06:57.820 be

01:06:58.040 any

01:06:58.320 different

01:06:58.740 but

01:06:59.460 you're

01:06:59.620 right

01:06:59.800 I

01:06:59.980 think

01:07:00.200 the

01:07:00.340 conservative

01:07:00.620 has

01:07:00.740 been

01:07:00.820 setting

01:07:01.020 the tone

01:07:01.360 on

01:07:01.480 all

01:07:01.620 sorts

01:07:01.820 of

01:07:01.940 topics

01:07:02.340 the

01:07:02.860 thing

01:07:03.040 about

01:07:03.240 taxes

01:07:03.740 I

01:07:04.020 agree

01:07:04.220 everybody

01:07:04.520 hates

01:07:04.760 taxes

01:07:05.100 the

01:07:05.260 thing

01:07:05.360 about

01:07:05.520 the

01:07:05.620 carbon

01:07:05.860 tax

01:07:06.180 specifically

01:07:06.740 and

01:07:07.720 climate

01:07:08.240 change

01:07:08.600 writ large

01:07:09.700 is that

01:07:10.260 people do

01:07:10.680 care about

01:07:11.160 it

01:07:11.400 but it's

01:07:23.260 grocery

01:07:23.580 store

01:07:24.000 so

01:07:24.240 unfortunately

01:07:24.740 the

01:07:25.080 context

01:07:25.540 between

01:07:25.880 now

01:07:26.160 and

01:07:26.280 2015

01:07:26.740 is

01:07:27.080 very

01:07:27.300 different

01:07:27.680 and

01:07:28.260 I

01:07:28.340 think

01:07:28.460 this

01:07:28.680 will

01:07:28.880 still

01:07:29.180 be

01:07:29.460 primarily

01:07:32.840 an

01:07:33.160 election

01:07:33.480 focused

01:07:33.980 on

01:07:34.260 affordability

01:07:34.940 and cost

01:07:35.300 of living

01:07:35.620 let's

01:07:36.540 look at

01:07:36.920 who

01:07:37.140 might

01:07:37.480 take

01:07:37.860 the

01:07:38.120 reins

01:07:38.540 as

01:07:38.860 our

01:07:39.040 next

01:07:39.280 prime

01:07:39.520 minister

01:07:39.780 and

01:07:39.960 based

01:07:42.160 on

01:07:42.580 what

01:07:42.940 I'm

01:07:43.220 seeing

01:07:43.620 on

01:07:44.400 Pierre

01:07:44.740 Poliev

01:07:45.040 Twitter

01:07:45.460 and

01:07:46.640 the

01:07:46.860 fact

01:07:47.100 that

01:07:47.240 this

01:07:47.440 article

01:07:48.000 came

01:07:48.340 out

01:07:48.580 linking

01:07:49.000 him

01:07:49.400 to

01:07:49.860 Ghislaine

01:07:50.460 Maxwell

01:07:50.980 I

01:07:51.360 got to

01:07:51.640 wonder

01:07:51.880 whether

01:07:52.340 the

01:07:53.260 Tories

01:07:53.720 view

01:07:54.120 him

01:07:54.440 as

01:07:54.740 the

01:07:54.900 front

01:07:55.140 runner

01:07:55.380 and

01:07:55.640 possibly

01:07:56.040 the

01:07:56.300 most

01:07:56.680 formidable

01:07:57.240 foe

01:07:57.740 that

01:07:57.880 they

01:07:58.020 could

01:07:58.220 meet

01:07:58.560 Warren

01:07:59.720 you

01:07:59.980 have

01:08:00.180 far

01:08:00.420 more

01:08:00.620 experience

01:08:01.120 in

01:08:01.340 the

01:08:01.880 world

01:08:02.080 of

01:08:02.200 campaigns

01:08:02.600 than

01:08:02.800 I

01:08:03.000 so

01:08:03.440 what's

01:08:03.680 your

01:08:03.760 take

01:08:04.020 Warren

01:08:07.260 we

01:08:08.800 lost

01:08:09.020 Warren

01:08:09.240 sorry

01:08:10.120 my

01:08:10.800 colleague

01:08:11.220 Brian

01:08:11.520 Lilly

01:08:11.760 was

01:08:12.000 a

01:08:12.100 guy

01:08:12.280 who

01:08:12.460 came

01:08:12.680 up

01:08:12.860 with

01:08:12.980 that

01:08:13.160 one

01:08:13.440 and

01:08:14.180 he

01:08:15.260 and

01:08:15.400 I

01:08:15.480 had

01:08:15.640 lunch

01:08:15.900 yesterday

01:08:16.340 and

01:08:16.560 it's

01:08:16.800 been

01:08:16.940 kicking

01:08:17.200 around

01:08:17.440 the

01:08:17.620 internet

01:08:17.900 for

01:08:18.140 quite

01:08:18.380 some

01:08:18.600 time

01:08:18.940 it's

01:08:19.220 not

01:08:19.500 shocking

01:08:20.800 news

01:08:21.300 you

01:08:21.500 can

01:08:21.820 find

01:08:22.100 those

01:08:22.320 photos

01:08:22.620 quite

01:08:22.920 easily

01:08:23.360 it's

01:08:23.720 a

01:08:23.840 legitimate

01:08:24.160 question

01:08:24.720 to

01:08:24.940 ask

01:08:25.320 the

01:08:25.840 question

01:08:26.140 is

01:08:26.420 who's

01:08:26.680 asking

01:08:27.120 it

01:08:27.400 my

01:08:28.040 understanding

01:08:28.720 is

01:08:29.200 and I

01:08:29.600 don't

01:08:29.780 know

01:08:29.960 this

01:08:30.160 for

01:08:30.340 sure

01:08:30.600 it

01:08:30.900 actually

01:08:31.280 wasn't

01:08:31.720 the

01:08:31.880 Tories

01:08:32.180 who

01:08:32.400 did

01:08:32.560 it

01:08:32.720 it

01:08:33.240 was

01:08:33.420 a

01:08:33.680 competitor

01:08:35.340 liberal

01:08:36.280 candidate

01:08:36.920 campaign

01:08:37.860 interesting

01:08:38.700 so

01:08:39.640 you know

01:08:40.380 that suggests

01:08:40.980 that the

01:08:41.280 elbows

01:08:41.580 are going

01:08:41.920 to get

01:08:42.140 up

01:08:42.380 who

01:08:43.020 are

01:08:43.240 the

01:08:43.480 candidates

01:08:44.080 that

01:08:44.640 the

01:08:44.840 Tories

01:08:45.120 are

01:08:45.320 worried

01:08:45.560 about

01:08:45.840 I

01:08:46.080 think

01:08:46.240 if

01:08:46.400 I

01:08:46.520 were

01:08:46.620 them

01:08:49.500 worried

01:08:50.040 with

01:08:50.500 our

01:08:51.360 carny

01:08:52.120 you know

01:08:52.700 when you're

01:08:53.200 facing an

01:08:53.720 economic

01:08:54.120 confrontation

01:08:54.680 with Donald

01:08:55.380 Trump's

01:08:55.880 new

01:08:56.340 administration

01:08:56.960 having the

01:08:57.660 former

01:08:57.960 governor of

01:08:58.520 the Bank

01:08:58.800 of Canada

01:08:59.340 you could

01:08:59.960 do worse

01:09:00.480 than having

01:09:00.980 a guy

01:09:01.280 like that

01:09:01.700 representing

01:09:02.200 the country

01:09:02.820 Christopher

01:09:03.640 Freeland

01:09:03.920 who was

01:09:04.700 part of

01:09:05.820 the Trudeau

01:09:06.320 circle

01:09:06.660 obviously

01:09:07.100 as deputy

01:09:07.640 prime minister

01:09:08.300 and minister

01:09:09.240 of finance

01:09:09.680 but you know

01:09:10.400 dramatically

01:09:11.000 stepped away

01:09:11.940 from Trudeau

01:09:13.080 and damaged

01:09:13.760 him mortally

01:09:14.660 at the start

01:09:15.580 of December

01:09:16.140 so she's

01:09:16.760 kind of an

01:09:17.200 outsider

01:09:17.620 now

01:09:18.020 and then

01:09:19.240 Chrissy

01:09:19.600 Clark

01:09:19.900 and I

01:09:20.680 personally

01:09:21.720 I just

01:09:22.260 believe

01:09:22.500 all the

01:09:22.920 you know

01:09:23.220 my two

01:09:23.580 friends

01:09:24.000 their

01:09:24.540 parties

01:09:24.940 have

01:09:25.120 both

01:09:25.360 been

01:09:25.540 led

01:09:25.780 by

01:09:26.020 women

01:09:26.400 it's

01:09:27.200 high

01:09:27.420 time

01:09:27.740 that

01:09:27.920 the

01:09:28.040 Liberal

01:09:28.260 Party

01:09:28.560 of

01:09:28.740 Canada

01:09:29.020 had

01:09:29.360 a

01:09:29.520 woman

01:09:29.840 as

01:09:30.480 leader

01:09:30.800 like

01:09:31.340 it's

01:09:31.540 just

01:09:31.740 it's

01:09:32.140 kind

01:09:32.340 of

01:09:32.480 ridiculous

01:09:33.060 that

01:09:33.720 we've

01:09:33.920 gotten

01:09:34.100 to this

01:09:34.500 point

01:09:34.700 in

01:09:34.820 our

01:09:34.960 history

01:09:35.240 and

01:09:35.400 it's

01:09:35.560 never

01:09:35.760 happened

01:09:36.180 so

01:09:36.740 that's

01:09:37.000 really

01:09:37.220 down

01:09:37.580 to

01:09:37.780 Freeland

01:09:38.180 and to

01:09:38.660 Clark

01:09:39.040 Clark

01:09:39.920 is the

01:09:40.300 one

01:09:40.460 I

01:09:40.620 think

01:09:40.820 would

01:09:41.020 be

01:09:41.140 the

01:09:41.300 better

01:09:41.520 pick

01:09:41.820 because

01:09:42.040 she's

01:09:42.240 a

01:09:42.380 westerner

01:09:42.900 she's

01:09:43.260 a

01:09:43.380 blue

01:09:43.540 liberal

01:09:43.880 she's

01:09:44.620 away

01:09:44.860 from

01:09:45.060 all

01:09:45.220 the

01:09:45.380 controversies

01:09:46.220 and

01:09:46.400 the

01:09:46.520 missteps

01:09:46.940 of

01:09:47.140 the

01:09:47.280 Trudeau

01:09:47.540 administration

01:09:48.220 she's

01:09:49.080 the

01:09:49.180 one

01:09:49.320 they

01:09:49.460 should

01:09:49.580 look

01:09:49.760 at

01:09:49.900 I

01:09:50.060 just

01:09:50.220 don't

01:09:50.460 know

01:09:50.720 guys

01:09:51.120 and

01:09:51.320 Ben

01:09:51.500 you

01:09:51.660 would

01:09:51.800 be

01:09:51.980 the

01:09:52.320 best

01:09:52.520 guy

01:09:52.720 to

01:09:52.900 know

01:09:53.200 is

01:09:53.800 what

01:09:54.160 her

01:09:54.340 French

01:09:54.700 is

01:09:54.860 like

01:09:55.100 that's

01:09:55.440 the

01:09:55.520 question

01:09:55.940 that's

01:09:56.140 got

01:09:56.280 to

01:09:56.360 be

01:09:56.480 asked

01:09:56.740 well

01:09:56.880 that's

01:09:57.080 a

01:09:57.340 very

01:09:57.940 good

01:09:58.120 question

01:09:58.420 I

01:09:58.600 I

01:09:58.680 wish

01:09:59.580 we

01:09:59.660 had

01:09:59.760 time

01:09:59.960 to

01:10:00.080 talk

01:10:00.280 about

01:10:00.460 the

01:10:00.700 liberal

01:10:01.460 candidate

01:10:01.840 who

01:10:02.120 says

01:10:02.380 that

01:10:02.540 you

01:10:02.660 don't

01:10:02.840 need

01:10:03.020 to

01:10:03.120 know

01:10:03.260 French

01:10:03.520 to

01:10:03.660 become

01:10:03.860 the

01:10:04.000 liberal

01:10:04.180 leader

01:10:04.400 but

01:10:04.600 Jen

01:10:04.840 I

01:10:05.240 want

01:10:05.360 to

01:10:05.460 stick

01:10:05.660 with

01:10:05.940 Pierre

01:10:08.700 Poliev

01:10:09.080 saying

01:10:09.800 it

01:10:10.000 doesn't

01:10:10.380 matter

01:10:10.620 who

01:10:10.840 runs

01:10:11.580 this

01:10:11.780 party

01:10:12.100 they

01:10:12.440 are

01:10:12.560 all

01:10:12.820 Justin

01:10:13.200 Trudeau

01:10:13.500 I'm

01:10:13.720 running

01:10:13.940 against

01:10:14.200 Justin

01:10:14.480 Trudeau

01:10:14.780 but

01:10:14.940 in

01:10:15.320 the

01:10:15.400 next

01:10:15.540 election

01:10:15.820 Justin

01:10:16.100 may

01:10:16.320 have

01:10:16.500 a

01:10:16.600 different

01:10:16.820 face

01:10:17.100 he

01:10:17.260 may

01:10:17.380 have

01:10:17.520 Christie's

01:10:17.960 face

01:10:18.180 or

01:10:18.340 Christie's

01:10:19.080 face

01:10:19.360 or

01:10:19.660 Carney's

01:10:20.220 face

01:10:20.420 but

01:10:20.580 it's

01:10:20.780 still

01:10:21.040 Justin

01:10:21.480 Trudeau

01:10:21.820 do

01:10:22.140 you

01:10:22.200 think

01:10:22.320 that's

01:10:22.520 a

01:10:22.580 good

01:10:22.680 tactic

01:10:23.040 oh

01:10:24.300 he

01:10:24.420 can

01:10:24.560 try

01:10:24.900 I

01:10:25.060 don't

01:10:25.220 think

01:10:25.400 that

01:10:25.620 works

01:10:25.960 for

01:10:26.180 the

01:10:26.340 average

01:10:26.600 person

01:10:27.140 leaders

01:10:28.300 and

01:10:28.720 leadership

01:10:28.980 campaigns

01:10:29.660 matter

01:10:30.280 you

01:10:30.720 know

01:10:30.860 what's

01:10:31.200 interesting

01:10:31.760 about

01:10:32.180 this

01:10:32.600 possible

01:10:33.420 association

01:10:34.220 with

01:10:34.820 Carney

01:10:35.100 and

01:10:35.260 Epstein

01:10:35.520 and

01:10:35.700 Maxwell

01:10:36.020 is

01:10:36.340 no

01:10:36.920 candidate

01:10:37.340 wants

01:10:37.700 that

01:10:37.860 association

01:10:38.580 beyond

01:10:39.800 if there

01:10:40.120 was

01:10:40.260 any

01:10:40.420 friendship

01:10:40.820 there

01:10:41.200 or

01:10:41.540 connection

01:10:42.160 to

01:10:43.080 horrible

01:10:43.660 things

01:10:43.940 like

01:10:44.120 human

01:10:44.320 trafficking

01:10:44.740 it

01:10:45.540 does

01:10:45.760 position

01:10:46.340 Carney

01:10:46.920 as

01:10:47.680 an

01:10:47.880 elite

01:10:48.160 and

01:10:48.680 I

01:10:48.800 think

01:10:48.960 that's

01:10:49.380 what

01:10:49.580 Pierre

01:10:49.840 Polyev

01:10:50.480 and

01:10:50.940 some

01:10:51.100 of

01:10:51.160 the

01:10:51.200 other

01:10:51.380 candidates

01:10:51.820 might

01:10:52.100 be

01:10:52.280 interested

01:10:52.660 in

01:10:52.900 saying

01:10:53.180 hey

01:10:53.700 I

01:10:54.080 get

01:10:54.300 what

01:10:54.700 it's

01:10:54.880 like

01:10:55.020 to

01:10:55.160 be

01:10:55.360 an

01:10:55.660 average

01:10:55.840 Canadian

01:10:56.240 because

01:10:56.480 I'm

01:10:56.640 an

01:10:57.120 average

01:10:57.400 Canadian

01:10:57.780 even

01:10:58.160 though

01:10:58.300 most

01:10:58.520 politicians

01:10:59.060 are

01:10:59.420 no

01:10:59.560 longer

01:10:59.860 average

01:11:00.200 Canadians

01:11:00.620 for being

01:11:01.140 real

01:11:01.540 hey

01:11:02.380 Jen

01:11:02.780 Hollett

01:11:03.320 Warren

01:11:04.000 Kinsella

01:11:04.480 Anthony

01:11:04.820 Kosh

01:11:05.100 thank you

01:11:05.780 so much

01:11:06.200 a great

01:11:06.700 panel

01:11:07.040 and I

01:11:07.260 hope

01:11:07.360 you

01:11:07.420 have

01:11:07.520 a

01:11:07.620 great

01:11:07.780 weekend

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01:21:14.660 There is a zip file.

01:21:15.820 We can have it into file and die in the snow, I guess.

01:21:19.100 That's what I think, Warren.

01:21:20.180 You don't have to like it, but that's the conclusion you can draw.

01:21:23.540 He said yesterday he'd get it done in a year.

01:21:26.440 He does not sound like he's kidding.

01:21:28.260 Yeah, well, that's my point.

01:21:29.580 It doesn't sound like he's kidding.

01:21:31.180 It doesn't sound like he's kidding.

01:21:33.820 And giving up and saying there's nothing we can do about it

01:21:36.920 doesn't seem to be a very good strategy to me.

01:21:39.820 But, you know, you are a strategist, so cast your mind forward.

01:21:43.380 If you were advising any of the Liberal leadership candidates,

01:21:47.020 and right now that just seems to be Mark Carney and Krista Freeland,

01:21:50.400 what would you, and we're going to conclude this way,

01:21:52.740 what would you be advising them to say about what Canadians now,

01:21:57.480 east, west, north, south, old, young, blue, red,

01:22:01.900 everybody agrees is now a big problem.

01:22:04.480 What would you be advising them to do?

01:22:06.760 I advise them to find a candidate who isn't swimming in the sewage

01:22:10.640 or fail the state.

01:22:11.640 I would advise them to know they should fight people

01:22:14.740 before they have an influence this idea as far as they can.

01:22:17.640 I would also tell them that if Donald Trump decides that he's marching north,

01:22:22.220 there is little that a strongly worded letter of the UN will do.

01:22:26.220 Look at how they've handled Israel.

01:22:28.480 And I know we understand that.

01:22:30.600 I don't think anybody will save us.

01:22:33.260 And I don't think that it is a reasonable or even possible fight.

01:22:37.800 And I am depressed as fuck about it.

01:22:40.340 And we keep on hoping next year we'll get better.

01:22:43.680 Europe is busy with Ukraine.

01:22:45.340 The Middle East is busy with Israel.

01:22:46.840 Sudan raises on in North Africa.

01:22:48.660 China is ready to go for Taiwan.

01:22:50.300 No one gives a fuck about maple syrup.

01:22:53.840 That's what I think.

01:22:55.180 All right.

01:22:56.260 John Merez, thank you for your thoughts,

01:22:58.780 as depressing as they are this week.

01:23:00.700 Thank you, sir.

01:23:01.300 I go, I go.

01:23:23.180 I'm about to climb high in a tree

01:23:26.720 I could be happy

01:23:28.820 I could be happy

01:23:29.580 I could be happy

01:23:30.620 Or don't you sky my heart a tear

01:23:34.020 I could be happy

01:23:36.200 I could be happy

01:23:37.960 Maybe it's time a mile down the road

01:23:41.640 I could be happy

01:23:43.480 I could be happy

01:23:45.580 All of these things I do

01:23:51.340 All of these things I do

01:23:54.940 To get away from you

01:23:57.900 Get away, run away, far away, how do I?

01:24:07.560 Get away, run away, far away, how do I?

01:24:14.520 Escape from you

01:24:16.240 I would like to climb high in a tree

01:24:25.400 I could be happy, I could be happy

01:24:29.400 I'd like to climb my holiday

01:24:32.420 I could be happy, I could be happy

01:24:36.700 Maybe some a mile down the night

01:24:40.340 I could be happy, I could be happy

01:24:46.240 All of these things I do

01:24:50.020 All of these things I do

01:24:53.620 To get away from you

01:24:56.620 Get away, run away, far away, how do I?

01:25:06.020 Get away, run away, far away, how do I?

01:25:13.200 Escape from you

01:25:14.940 I would like to climb high in a tree

01:25:24.320 I could be happy, I could be happy

01:25:28.060 I'd like to climb my holiday

01:25:31.120 I could be happy, I could be happy

01:25:35.320 Maybe some a mile down the night

01:25:39.060 I could be happy, I could be happy

01:25:42.660 Get away, run away, how do I?

01:26:04.040 Get away, run away, far away, how do I?

01:26:05.980 Welcome back.

01:26:30.800 We're going to bust away from the Q&A.

01:26:34.040 I was doing my best to give you that in English and in French.

01:26:38.640 We're joined now by Warren Kinsella, former special advisor to Jean Chrétien and CEO of the Daisy Group,

01:26:43.320 as well as Paul Wells, Canadian journalist and pundit.

01:26:46.600 Gentlemen, welcome to the show.

01:26:48.560 Paul, I will put it to you first.

01:26:50.740 What are your first impressions of this press conference?

01:26:54.900 He sounded sad.

01:26:56.440 He did not want to quit.

01:26:57.880 He wanted this fight against Pierre Poiliev.

01:27:00.380 But you can draw a straight line between Donald Trump's post on Truth Social six weeks ago and this resignation.

01:27:11.380 The threat of 25 percent tariffs on every Canadian import stress tested this government and Trudeau couldn't meet the test.

01:27:20.960 So he's now going to prorogue Parliament.

01:27:26.160 It wasn't guaranteed that the governor general would accept, but she has.

01:27:31.340 And it's quite a long prorogation, three months, during which Trump, if he feels like it, can impose those tariffs.

01:27:38.100 And this government will have this lame duck government with not a lot of legitimacy will have very few tools to respond with.

01:27:50.540 It's a it's a lousy situation and it's one that Trudeau has allowed himself to get backed into.

01:27:57.160 Warren, what's your take?

01:27:59.140 He looks relieved to me.

01:28:00.780 A little bit sad, as Paul says, but, you know, there was an inevitability, inevitability of this moment.

01:28:08.660 And, you know, he really had no way out.

01:28:11.760 There was no path back to viability, let alone victory.

01:28:15.640 So he did what he had to do.

01:28:18.180 And the prorogation makes sense to me.

01:28:20.420 There's some precedent for that.

01:28:22.420 Having a leadership race in these compressed circumstances is going to be challenging.

01:28:26.880 But Doug Ford became a majority premier after 120 days, you know, after his predecessor left.

01:28:33.000 So I think it's doable.

01:28:34.400 It's going to be a lot of fun, actually, for guys in our business to pay attention to what's going to take place.

01:28:40.360 But, you know, he had to go.

01:28:42.320 It was obvious he'd lost his caucus.

01:28:44.660 He'd lost public opinion.

01:28:47.400 And he just, you know, manifestly was not the right guy for the circumstances we find ourselves in as a country.

01:28:53.620 Paul, in such a short period of time, how can the apparent frontrunners who have been walking in lockstep with this prime minister and this government helping enact the policies that it looks like so many Canadians want to move away from, how can they differentiate themselves from the pack?

01:29:12.700 How can they say, elect me as leader, I will be a different kind of liberal, even though they helped build this particular brand of the liberal party?

01:29:20.280 It's going to be difficult.

01:29:50.280 And that makes him Trudeau's economic advisor on X or Twitter or whatever we're calling it.

01:29:58.100 He keeps saying carbon tax, Carney, is just like Trudeau.

01:30:01.820 I suspect that's a connection that a lot of liberal, that a lot of Canadian voters would make anyway.

01:30:10.460 As for Christa Freeland, she sure had a good day when she quit three weeks ago, but she has been his finance minister since 2020.

01:30:19.920 And, you know, that's a legacy that's hard to back away from.

01:30:25.040 Warren.

01:30:25.200 Warren, you said on X, I believe yesterday, there's a path forward for at least a slight uptick in the polls bit by bit over the course of this for the liberal party.

01:30:39.280 But if this liberal race overlaps with Trump's first 100 days and immediately during those 100 days we get slapped with those tariffs, this liberal party, regardless of who's leading it, is going to have to own that.

01:30:56.980 And the fact that they would be trying to, you know, redecorate the house while the house is on fire.

01:31:03.520 I don't see how that leads to a better result in the next election for the party, regardless of who's leading it.

01:31:11.300 Well, yeah, the tariffs are bad, and I believe it's not an if.

01:31:15.280 I think there's an inevitability of them.

01:31:17.480 He campaigned on them.

01:31:19.320 He's got a mandate to do them.

01:31:21.060 He's being certified today at Congress.

01:31:23.280 He's going to do it.

01:31:24.240 He needs to do the tariffs in order to pay for his tax cut.

01:31:28.000 So whoever is there is going to have to deal with it.

01:31:30.480 And, you know, do we as a country believe we have an ability to change Donald Trump's mind?

01:31:36.720 Well, you know, I don't think so.

01:31:40.580 None of us have had that ability to figure out what goes on inside that man's mind.

01:31:45.060 So the leadership campaign will happen, and all of them will pronounce on what Trump is saying.

01:31:51.940 Some of them will take a very anti-Trump stance.

01:31:54.600 Some will be more moderate, you know, and Polly will be asked about it too.

01:31:59.540 But, I mean, at the end of the day, the tariffs are going to happen, and it's going to hammer the Canadian economy,

01:32:05.280 and a liberal leadership race is going to have no meaningful effect on it or not.

01:32:09.380 Well, we're going to have to leave it there, gentlemen.

01:32:10.960 Thank you so much for being so patient as we waited to hear the prime minister's words.

01:32:14.280 I do appreciate it, and I hope I'll speak to you again very soon.

01:32:17.700 You got it.

01:32:18.200 Thanks, Ben.

01:32:18.500 I never won, I always run

01:32:34.760 Hey, I won't work, but I'll stand right out of the sun

01:32:39.200 Trying not to jump the fly

01:32:41.240 Cause like mirrors and smoke, this is all a joke

01:32:45.440 Back this time in California

01:32:48.720 It's a lie on your house when I kissed ya

01:32:52.360 On the couch and I made you listen

01:32:55.580 To all the songs that I wish I'd read it

01:32:59.240 To all the songs that I wish I'd read it

01:33:01.240 To all the songs that I wish I'd read it

01:33:05.240 You could be anything to me

01:33:06.940 I could be anything to me

01:33:21.880 I could be anything to you

01:33:23.980 To all the songs that I wish I'd read it

01:33:27.120 You could be anything to me

01:33:31.760 I could be anything to you

01:33:36.720 But through the drugs I went on

01:33:42.320 And I think I still like you

01:33:46.440 The sun comes up over California

01:33:50.740 I'm in too deep and I wanna kiss ya

01:33:54.320 On your lips while I make you listen

01:33:57.660 To all the shit that I wish I were in

01:34:00.620 Because I am like California

01:34:03.880 In July on the night when I kissed ya

01:34:07.580 On my couch and I make you listen

01:34:10.760 To all the songs that I wish I were in

01:34:24.320 Lunar

01:34:27.000 Blame

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kinsellacast - January 12, 2025

KINSELLACAST 344： So long Justin, so long Canada？ Lilley, Kheiriddin, Belanger, Mraz, Mulroney, Koch, Hollett, Wells plus HotWax, the Bug Club, Satin Call, Oscar G and more

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