kinsellacast - KINSELLACAST 350： The Son of Hamas - plus Lilley, Kheiriddin, Mulroney, Belanger, Brady, and Outtacontroller, Kepi Ghoulie, American Steel, Methadones, Hex Dispenser, The Creeps

00:00:00.000 It's the Kinsella cast starring Warren Kinsella.

00:00:30.000 It's like things are pretty grim.

00:00:32.680 God, following in the wake of last week's show, where I had John Kretzian, I've got another big name, Wasab Hassan Youssef.

00:00:42.600 He is the son of Hamas.

00:00:44.860 He's the son of one of the founders of Hamas.

00:00:47.360 He was a member of Hamas, and he left that world and spoke to me exclusively a little while ago.

00:00:54.580 So I'm going to have some of our discussion for you.

00:00:57.620 I thought it was timely in light of the terrible events in Israel this week with the return of the Bebas family, the mom and the two sons.

00:01:10.920 And it was just horrible, and so I wanted to get some insight into the minds of the monsters behind all of that.

00:01:19.080 So I've got Mr. Youssef coming up.

00:01:21.920 Also Brian Lilly, where I put a tough question to him.

00:01:24.860 The reader wanted to know if Brian supports Donald Trump, so I asked Brian the question, and he gave an answer.

00:01:33.600 Then we've got Tasha Carradine, Carl Belonger and I, Greg Brady, Ben Maroney and I.

00:01:39.860 Lots of stuff going on, and some great music.

00:01:43.400 So given the Made in Canada requirement these days, I'm trying to do it on the music front too.

00:01:49.760 So I've got Eric Controller, who had the pride of Halifax, Nova Scotia, where my daughter lives.

00:01:56.440 And they have got this great song called Cheap Pop I'm going to lead off with.

00:02:02.860 And of course, Halifax produced the boys who won us the big game this week against the Yanks.

00:02:08.900 So thank you to Halifax.

00:02:10.700 I've got from Ottawa, Ontario, The Creeps with The Bottom of Things, another great song.

00:02:15.900 Another Canadian connection, but not necessarily connection, because they're from Austin, Texas,

00:02:22.020 where a member of Shit From Hell is this week, is Hex Dispenser.

00:02:27.080 And the reason why I was attracted to them was the cover of their record.

00:02:31.460 The cover of their record, I was like, oh, I recognize that style.

00:02:34.320 And it was my friend Tom Bagley from Calgary, Alberta, who designed the cover of the first SFH record.

00:02:41.680 And so I've got Hex Dispenser doing Forrest Ray Coulson with Tom Bagley on the cover.

00:02:50.300 Then I've got The Methadones from Chicago.

00:02:52.260 They're not Canadian, but it's a good song.

00:02:54.460 And then Keepy Goley from Sacramento, When the Kids Go, Go, Go Crazy.

00:03:01.800 So lots of stuff, lots of good music, lots of good talking.

00:03:05.500 And I'm grateful that you are here.

00:03:10.180 And as a starting proposition, I am grateful my parents aren't alive to see any of this.

00:03:18.400 As I mentioned, babies and mothers abducted and murdered for the sin of being Jewish and much

00:03:25.040 of the world shrugging, monsters disguised as men, spraying schools and places of worship

00:03:31.680 with bullets, swastikas and symbols of death being paraded through places where ordinary people live

00:03:37.760 with impunity, science being denied, democracy being denuded, ignorance being celebrated.

00:03:43.840 And now, the most powerful man on earth in just one month, upending Western civilization, demonizing

00:03:52.220 allies, and forming a satanic alliance with the fascist Russian regime.

00:03:59.380 Like, it's a cliche to say we're living through history.

00:04:02.440 But this?

00:04:03.360 Like this?

00:04:04.100 This feels like what my parents must have felt, observing the rise of Nazism and Hitler

00:04:10.260 and wondering if it was ever going to get better.

00:04:13.000 Wonder if it actually could all be happening.

00:04:16.960 Now, as then, it's probably a waste of time to speculate the motivations of madmen.

00:04:22.740 Is Donald Trump mentally ill?

00:04:25.020 Is he fashioning a dictatorship?

00:04:27.840 Is Putin blackmailing him with some decade-old footage of a golden shower taken

00:04:34.040 one night at the presidential suite at Moscow's Ritz-Carlton Hotel?

00:04:38.600 We'll never know.

00:04:39.760 The same sorts of questions were asked about Hitler and his ilk, and no one had the answer.

00:04:44.100 So then, as now, politicians and pundits try to defend the indefensible.

00:04:49.700 And all of us are familiar with the symptoms of that disease, asserting that Donald Trump

00:04:54.140 is right on borders, or fentanyl, or dairy products, or banking, or military spending,

00:04:58.520 and whatever lie he conjures up to justify his sociopathy.

00:05:05.040 And as long as he has the right ideology, these Vichy Canadians believe, Trump's thuggery

00:05:10.420 is justifiable.

00:05:12.180 Except it isn't.

00:05:14.020 Not ever.

00:05:15.660 Three weeks ago this week, Russia invaded Ukraine, and Brian Lilly, who's on this week's show,

00:05:20.860 wrote that week, quote,

00:05:22.980 In the coming days, Ukrainians will find out that the Western allies they've been turning towards

00:05:26.940 for more than two decades will help them, or once again leave them to fend for themselves.

00:05:32.080 The people of Ukraine deserve better than this, end quote.

00:05:35.480 They did, and they do.

00:05:37.180 And in the intervening three years, we did not send troops, but Canada, the United States,

00:05:41.660 and Europe delivered arms to Ukraine, offered it financial lifelines, hit Putin's regime

00:05:47.440 with tough economic sanctions, and all of it was starting to take a toll.

00:05:50.920 Like, by the fall of 2024, Russian troop losses were mounting, nearly 2,000 in one day in

00:05:57.260 November, and as the Economist wrote in that same month, the war in Ukraine is straining

00:06:02.820 Russia's economy and society.

00:06:05.780 In November, Putin was granted a reprieve.

00:06:09.700 Donald Trump was elected to a second term, and he immediately got to work deconstructing

00:06:14.720 American democracy, gutting liberal trade relationships, and dismantling the Western

00:06:20.220 alliance of nations, and now absolving Russia.

00:06:24.660 As before, there are the useful idiots who always fool themselves into thinking that Trump

00:06:30.940 is fooling, that he wasn't serious about making Canada the 51st state, about using military

00:06:36.660 power against allies in Denmark and Panama, about turning Gaza into a resort, about declaring

00:06:43.340 economic war in every nation but Russia, that he was not going to cast off Ukraine and ally

00:06:51.080 himself with Russia.

00:06:53.220 But this week, Trump and his kleptocrats did just that and more.

00:06:58.400 Trump bald-faced lied and said that Ukraine had started the war, and then he posted this

00:07:03.740 online, quote, a dictator without elections, Zelensky better move fast or he's not going to have

00:07:09.040 a country left.

00:07:10.200 In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the war with Russia, and something

00:07:16.620 I'll admit only Trump, he capitalizes it, and the Trump administration can do, end quote.

00:07:23.140 It was fucking insane.

00:07:24.480 It read like something on the wall of an asylum.

00:07:26.860 John Bolton was Trump's national security advisor, and he called those words some of

00:07:33.440 the most shameful remarks ever made by a U.S. president.

00:07:36.620 Lindsey Graham, usually a sycophant for Trump, posted that when it comes to blame for the

00:07:42.960 Russian invasion of Ukraine, I blame Putin above all others.

00:07:46.680 But none of that matters now, or will.

00:07:50.460 A madman is on the loose, and words have never deterred him.

00:07:54.200 Our parents would find this all familiar.

00:07:57.760 They would reassure us that, in the end, evil usually fails.

00:08:02.440 Democracy and decency usually prevail.

00:08:06.060 But in the meantime, there will be blood.

00:08:09.160 Cheap pop world.

00:08:24.720 Cheap pop world.

00:08:27.560 Cheap pop world.

00:08:30.200 Cheap pop world.

00:08:31.300 Want to hear guitars explode.

00:08:34.360 Want to hear the track corrode.

00:08:37.160 Stereo is melting to the floor.

00:08:39.900 Cheap pop guy, gotta get low, yeah.

00:08:43.620 Cheap pop world.

00:08:46.360 Cheap pop world.

00:08:49.100 Cheap pop world.

00:08:51.940 Cheap pop world.

00:08:53.300 Put a dance to a broken drum.

00:08:56.100 Stomp around till the feet go numb.

00:08:58.260 Me and you start melting to the floor.

00:09:01.520 Cheap pop world.

00:09:01.800 Cheap pop world.

00:09:02.340 Yeah, we gotta get low, yeah.

00:09:03.860 Oh, yeah.

00:09:05.860 Oh, yeah.

00:09:06.620 Oh, yeah.

00:09:09.660 Oh, yeah.

00:09:13.600 Oh, yeah.

00:09:15.940 Oh, yeah.

00:09:18.080 Oh, yeah.

00:09:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:22.480 Oh, yeah.

00:09:23.480 Oh, yeah.

00:09:25.440 I wanna hear guitars explode

00:09:36.160 I wanna hear the technical roll

00:09:38.920 Stereo is meltin' to the floor

00:09:41.580 Cheap pop guy, gotta get low, yeah

00:09:44.560 Cheap pop world

00:09:47.260 Cheap pop world

00:09:50.180 Cheap pop world

00:09:52.900 Cheap pop world

00:09:55.900 Cheap pop world

00:09:58.900 Cheap pop world

00:10:01.900 Cheap pop world

00:10:03.900 Cheap pop world

00:10:05.900 The first question is, how much importance did Hamas attach to propaganda before the 7th?

00:10:14.900 Was it always, because I've read the 1988 charter, and the written word is considered to be almost as important

00:10:21.900 as the military expression of its philosophy? How important is propaganda?

00:10:28.900 Well, it's indoctrination, it's not only propaganda, it's ideology

00:10:36.900 To reduce it to just propaganda

00:10:41.900 Propaganda, this is for the people on the outside

00:10:45.900 But Hamas relies on systematic indoctrination

00:10:52.900 In order to create very strong individuals

00:10:57.900 You know, who can actually fight to death

00:11:00.900 This type of indoctrination, training

00:11:05.900 is sophisticated

00:11:10.900 They don't just qualify anybody to lead

00:11:15.900 or be part of the movement

00:11:17.900 So this is where you need to pay attention

00:11:19.900 And by creating such models

00:11:23.900 They attract the masses

00:11:26.900 Towards false ideas of heroism

00:11:30.900 And freedom fighting

00:11:33.900 And sacrifice

00:11:36.900 Which through martyrdom

00:11:40.900 They inspire generations

00:11:49.900 Of those who want the glory in the afterlife

00:11:54.900 So, it's very, very sophisticated

00:11:57.900 And of course, Hamas relies on the propaganda of the victim

00:12:02.900 The victim narrative

00:12:05.900 The oppressed

00:12:07.900 The underdog

00:12:09.900 Who has the right to defend

00:12:12.900 Himself

00:12:14.900 Who's entitled for recognition

00:12:19.900 And legitimacy

00:12:21.900 That their violence is supposed to be acceptable

00:12:25.900 Etc

00:12:27.900 This is what the West buy

00:12:32.900 Under what's so called international law

00:12:36.900 Now, so that's the

00:12:39.900 So, after the 7th

00:12:41.900 These terrible crimes take place

00:12:44.900 1,200 people

00:12:45.900 Men, women, children, babies killed

00:12:47.900 250 people kidnapped

00:12:50.900 Terrible things take place

00:12:52.900 But in the West

00:12:53.900 Young people

00:12:54.900 So, Gen Z

00:12:56.900 From 18 to 24

00:12:58.900 Millennials

00:12:59.900 25 to 39

00:13:01.900 I mean, Canada

00:13:02.900 The United States

00:13:03.900 And Europe

00:13:04.900 Endorsed the actions

00:13:07.900 Of the perpetrators

00:13:08.900 Of the ones who committed the violence

00:13:10.900 Which is obviously

00:13:12.900 An indication of problems

00:13:13.900 With the educational system

00:13:15.900 As you've said

00:13:16.900 But also

00:13:17.900 The effectiveness of the propaganda

00:13:19.900 The information war

00:13:21.900 How much attention has Hamas paid

00:13:24.900 To that war

00:13:26.900 Since the 7th

00:13:27.900 Because it looks like

00:13:28.900 They're doing it well

00:13:29.900 Look, Hamas was just a trigger

00:13:33.900 You know

00:13:34.900 They started the flame

00:13:38.900 Which created this massive fire

00:13:43.900 But in reality

00:13:46.900 The ones who have been pushing

00:13:48.900 The global agendas

00:13:50.900 Of Palestinians

00:13:51.900 Are the Palestinian Authority

00:13:53.900 And the PLO

00:13:56.900 And the Muslims

00:13:58.900 Because of the religious dimension

00:14:02.900 Of this conflict

00:14:04.900 That should not be underestimated

00:14:06.900 The Muslims claim

00:14:11.900 That they are

00:14:12.900 The actual owners

00:14:14.900 Of the Holy Land

00:14:17.900 Not the Jewish people

00:14:19.900 So when you have

00:14:21.900 1.6 billion believers

00:14:24.900 Believers

00:14:25.900 Of this

00:14:27.900 False account

00:14:30.900 Of history

00:14:32.900 Then

00:14:34.900 Their machine

00:14:37.900 And their belief

00:14:39.900 Becomes true

00:14:40.900 To a certain degree

00:14:41.900 When you have

00:14:42.900 Hundreds

00:14:43.900 Of millions

00:14:44.900 Of people

00:14:45.900 Repeating

00:14:46.900 The narrative

00:14:47.900 That this is

00:14:48.900 When they say

00:14:49.900 This is Palestinian land

00:14:50.900 They refer to it

00:14:51.900 As actually

00:14:52.900 An Islamic land

00:14:53.900 Because there is

00:14:54.900 No difference

00:14:55.900 Palestine

00:14:56.900 Is only a device

00:14:58.900 And there is no

00:14:59.900 Islamic name

00:15:00.900 Of that land

00:15:02.900 So

00:15:03.900 Hence

00:15:04.900 Palestine

00:15:05.900 Came

00:15:06.900 To

00:15:07.900 Be the expression

00:15:08.900 Of the Islamic ambition

00:15:10.900 So anyway

00:15:11.900 The

00:15:13.900 This is not just

00:15:15.900 A

00:15:18.900 A systematic propaganda

00:15:20.900 As much as

00:15:21.900 It's

00:15:22.900 The

00:15:23.900 The big lie

00:15:25.900 Of

00:15:26.900 So many people

00:15:28.900 Of a majority of people

00:15:29.900 In the face

00:15:32.900 Of a very small minority

00:15:34.900 That is

00:15:35.900 15 million people

00:15:36.900 You take

00:15:37.900 15 million people

00:15:38.900 Even though

00:15:39.900 They have

00:15:40.900 The truth

00:15:41.900 To their side

00:15:42.900 History

00:15:43.900 Artifact

00:15:44.900 Archeology

00:15:46.900 Bibles

00:15:47.900 Holy Scripture

00:15:48.900 All the things

00:15:49.900 That name it

00:15:50.900 They have

00:15:51.900 All that

00:15:52.900 To their side

00:15:53.900 But they are

00:15:54.900 Still 15 million people

00:15:55.900 Then the other side

00:15:57.900 They have

00:15:58.900 Nothing

00:15:59.900 To their side

00:16:00.900 No facts

00:16:01.900 At all

00:16:02.900 But they have

00:16:03.900 A narrative

00:16:04.900 With a majority

00:16:05.900 Of people

00:16:06.900 Repeating it

00:16:07.900 Then it's already

00:16:08.900 They are winning

00:16:09.900 Now

00:16:10.900 If it was only

00:16:11.900 Democracy

00:16:12.900 They are going to win

00:16:13.900 Even though

00:16:14.900 They are absolutely

00:16:15.900 False

00:16:16.900 And this is

00:16:17.900 The situation

00:16:18.900 It's not

00:16:19.900 Their success

00:16:20.900 They are

00:16:21.900 The Jews

00:16:22.900 Outnumbered

00:16:23.900 And as you point out

00:16:26.900 They have been

00:16:27.900 So effective

00:16:28.900 At manipulating images

00:16:29.900 And words

00:16:30.900 On the internet

00:16:31.900 Yep

00:16:32.900 And obviously

00:16:33.900 They are assisted

00:16:34.900 By Russia

00:16:35.900 They are assisted

00:16:36.900 By China

00:16:37.900 They are assisted

00:16:38.900 By Iran

00:16:39.900 But they have become

00:16:40.900 Very sophisticated

00:16:41.900 At propagating lies

00:16:43.900 On the internet

00:16:44.900 And young people

00:16:45.900 In the west

00:16:46.900 Have become so

00:16:47.900 Susceptible to it

00:16:48.900 When you live

00:16:49.900 In the United States

00:16:50.900 Now

00:16:51.900 How is it

00:16:52.900 That young people

00:16:53.900 Have been sucked in

00:16:54.900 By these lies

00:16:55.900 Look

00:16:56.900 This is

00:16:57.900 A tragic

00:16:58.900 Situation

00:16:59.900 So first of all

00:17:01.900 We need to acknowledge

00:17:02.900 That what's happening

00:17:03.900 In Gaza

00:17:04.900 Is a tragedy

00:17:05.900 When

00:17:06.900 The collateral damage

00:17:07.900 Is huge

00:17:08.900 Even though

00:17:09.900 The numbers

00:17:10.900 Have been faked

00:17:11.900 But this is the first time

00:17:12.900 In

00:17:13.900 The modern history

00:17:15.900 We see

00:17:16.900 A war

00:17:17.900 On the social media

00:17:19.900 Where people

00:17:20.900 Being killed

00:17:21.900 Butchered

00:17:22.900 Annihilated

00:17:24.900 By

00:17:25.900 Bombs

00:17:26.900 We never experienced

00:17:28.900 This before

00:17:29.900 Even in World War

00:17:30.900 Two

00:17:31.900 Those who lived

00:17:32.900 Died

00:17:33.900 Or they came

00:17:34.900 To witness

00:17:35.900 But not

00:17:36.900 Everybody saw

00:17:37.900 It

00:17:38.900 So people

00:17:39.900 Have been driven

00:17:40.900 By very strong

00:17:41.900 Emotions

00:17:42.900 And that's

00:17:43.900 Understandable

00:17:44.900 To have

00:17:45.900 The anti-war

00:17:47.900 Notion

00:17:48.900 And we don't

00:17:49.900 Want to take that

00:17:50.900 Away

00:17:51.900 Because naturally

00:17:52.900 People should

00:17:53.900 Oppose

00:17:54.900 War

00:17:55.900 It's not

00:17:56.900 The natural

00:17:57.900 State

00:17:58.900 Now

00:17:59.900 Hamas

00:18:00.900 Capitalized

00:18:01.900 On

00:18:02.900 The

00:18:03.900 On the

00:18:04.900 Strategy

00:18:05.900 And since

00:18:06.900 This is not

00:18:08.900 The first war

00:18:09.900 With Gaza

00:18:10.900 They had

00:18:11.900 A feeling

00:18:12.900 They had

00:18:13.900 A sense

00:18:14.900 Of how

00:18:15.900 The public

00:18:16.900 Is going

00:18:17.900 To respond

00:18:18.900 And the

00:18:19.900 Global

00:18:20.900 Pressure

00:18:21.900 On

00:18:22.900 Israel

00:18:23.900 To

00:18:24.900 Surrender

00:18:25.900 They've

00:18:26.900 Done it

00:18:27.900 Before

00:18:28.900 And they

00:18:29.900 Succeeded

00:18:30.900 This time

00:18:31.900 They doubled

00:18:32.900 Down

00:18:33.900 Thinking

00:18:34.900 By taking hostages

00:18:35.900 Etc

00:18:36.900 Israel

00:18:37.900 Will come

00:18:38.900 To its knees

00:18:39.900 And declare

00:18:40.900 Surrender

00:18:41.900 The

00:18:42.900 Violence

00:18:43.900 Strategy

00:18:44.900 Of what's

00:18:45.900 So called

00:18:46.900 Resistance

00:18:47.900 Where

00:18:48.900 Violence

00:18:49.900 Becomes

00:18:50.900 Legitimized

00:18:51.900 And gets

00:18:52.900 Global

00:18:53.900 Recognition

00:18:54.900 As a

00:18:55.900 Resistance

00:18:56.900 Movement

00:18:57.900 This is what

00:18:58.900 Hamas wanted

00:18:59.900 To do

00:19:00.900 And

00:19:01.900 It's not like

00:19:02.900 You know

00:19:03.900 How they did

00:19:04.900 That

00:19:05.900 They just

00:19:06.900 Literally

00:19:07.900 Sacrificed

00:19:08.900 Thousands

00:19:09.900 Of

00:19:10.900 And

00:19:11.900 That's

00:19:12.900 Death

00:19:13.900 Culture

00:19:14.900 That

00:19:15.900 Is willing

00:19:16.900 To

00:19:17.900 Sacrifice

00:19:18.900 Children

00:19:19.900 For

00:19:20.900 Political

00:19:21.900 And Financial

00:19:22.900 Gain

00:19:23.900 Is something

00:19:24.900 That is not

00:19:25.900 Familiar

00:19:26.900 To the West

00:19:27.900 That some people

00:19:28.900 Are capable

00:19:29.900 Of doing

00:19:30.900 This

00:19:31.900 But

00:19:32.900 Hamas

00:19:33.900 Deliberately

00:19:34.900 Weaponized

00:19:35.900 The civilians

00:19:36.900 For this purpose

00:19:37.900 To get

00:19:38.900 Sympathy

00:19:39.900 Problem

00:19:40.900 Globally

00:19:41.900 So

00:19:42.900 The final

00:19:43.900 Question

00:19:44.900 I

00:19:45.900 Would

00:19:46.900 Have

00:19:47.900 Is

00:19:48.900 What

00:19:49.900 Do you feel

00:19:50.900 Needs to be

00:19:51.900 Done

00:19:52.900 To counter

00:19:53.900 This propaganda

00:19:54.900 War

00:19:55.900 That they are

00:19:56.900 Waging

00:19:57.900 Not just

00:19:58.900 On their own

00:19:59.900 to oppose that right what we need basically we need the facts was Palestine

00:20:11.340 ever a sovereign country was it a state was it an ethnic group or nation that

00:20:22.400 have been occupied or is it a new thing that happened after the establishment of

00:20:31.460 Israel with a violent approach to annihilate the state of Israel as a

00:20:41.240 condition to the establishment of Palestine as a replacement and if we get

00:20:51.140 to the root the roots of it we realize that Palestine stands for failure it's

00:21:00.140 a fancy it's non-existential and the Palestinian claim to be the indigenous

00:21:06.560 of the land in the face of colonialism that they have the right to fight against

00:21:12.260 occupation which is basically the main source of their violent inspiration that

00:21:18.800 they are oppressed occupied hence they have the right or thus they have the

00:21:24.800 right to resist if this is exposed then their violence is not justified anymore

00:21:33.800 and basically what do you want do you want to live in peace build your society

00:21:39.800 or you want to go on this nonsense fight for eternity trying to annihilate the most

00:21:45.800 ancient nation one of the most ancient nations on earth mm-hmm so once the the

00:21:53.720 truth the facts what motivates every people what every society actually want one

00:22:00.920 society wants to live apparently wants to live pro-life the other society wants to

00:22:07.460 de-legitimize the other cancel the other annihilate the other replace the other and within them a why

00:22:16.340 didn't you just get along because Israel is not trying to cancel you as long as you are not

00:22:21.080 like continuing to attempt you're violent you're violent a violent approach in fact

00:22:36.080 Israel would appreciate you if you are genius it would work with you and to insist on this violence it just

00:22:47.960 doesn't really doesn't make sense at all thank you so much you're welcome

00:22:54.960 If you really gotta tell me something tell me something that I want to be

00:23:16.880 If you really got to tell me something, tell me something that I won't remember at all.

00:23:27.520 It's getting busy at the bottom of things.

00:23:35.820 I call time to practice everything except I'm sleeping out.

00:23:43.360 I don't do that much these days, getting busy at the bottom of things.

00:23:54.220 Tell me the time, I'll tell you the weakness.

00:23:59.320 Tell me the time, I'll tell you what you've been.

00:24:03.420 I don't remember the crimes, I don't remember the deeds.

00:24:08.040 I don't remember the time when I stopped making sense.

00:24:13.360 So if you really got to tell me something, tell me something.

00:24:43.340 It's something that I won't remember at all.

00:24:47.500 It's getting busy at the bottom of things.

00:24:56.140 Out of contact, I practice everything except sleeping out.

00:25:03.340 I don't remember the time, I'll tell you what you've been.

00:25:08.340 I don't remember the time, I'll tell you what you've been.

00:25:10.340 I don't remember the crimes, I don't remember the deeds.

00:25:14.340 Tell me the time, I'll tell you what you've been.

00:25:16.340 Tell me the time, I'll tell you what you've been.

00:25:21.340 Tell me the time, I'll tell you what you've been.

00:25:23.340 I don't remember the crimes, I don't remember the deeds.

00:25:27.340 I don't remember the time, I'll tell you what you've been.

00:25:29.340 I don't remember the time when it stopped making sense.

00:25:33.340 I don't remember the crimes about dogs.

00:25:34.340 It's okay.

00:26:02.640 Oh, it's a night way

00:26:11.100 I don't know

00:26:16.580 It's a night way

00:26:20.620 It's a night way

00:26:22.980 I don't know

00:26:25.700 It's a night way

00:26:29.960 It's a long way

00:26:32.400 I don't know what I'm doing, man

00:26:36.460 It's a long way

00:26:39.460 It's a long way

00:26:41.620 I don't know what I'm doing, man

00:26:45.960 It's a long way

00:26:48.700 It's a long way

00:26:59.960 And we're back, we're back with my colleague and friend, Brian Lilly

00:27:08.000 And Brian, you know, I actually have talked about this a number of times

00:27:12.100 I always say to people, how Warren is and how Brian is on social media

00:27:16.820 Is not how we always are in real life

00:27:20.300 And it's, you know, you can get different voices when you're doing journalism and commentary stuff

00:27:25.340 But I did get a note from a reader

00:27:29.240 Which I've told you about, but I haven't read to you

00:27:33.800 You haven't told me what it says

00:27:35.080 It's a tough question I hear

00:27:36.740 So here's what this reader named Jacques says

00:27:40.460 Warren, love what you're doing

00:27:42.900 But I wish you'd speak to your friend

00:27:44.740 About the apparent support

00:27:47.060 His apparent support

00:27:49.420 For Trump and Vance

00:27:51.160 I'm a Polyev supporter

00:27:53.080 But now I'm questioning this

00:27:54.820 Given the current state of affairs

00:27:56.760 Lilly is not helping with people like me

00:27:59.260 So it's not a question so much as a statement

00:28:01.720 How do you

00:28:02.520 What's your response?

00:28:04.200 He asked me to raise that with you

00:28:06.360 So I said I would

00:28:07.340 So there you go

00:28:08.040 What's your response?

00:28:09.760 Well, look

00:28:10.680 I can like some of the things Trump is doing

00:28:12.840 And in fact

00:28:13.620 You know

00:28:14.280 You'd hate to admit it

00:28:15.700 But you like what Trump is doing with Israel

00:28:17.800 And getting the hostages out

00:28:19.100 And that's what I like about him

00:28:21.760 He's

00:28:22.600 I don't live in the United States

00:28:24.200 But he's right on some of the

00:28:25.520 The culture war issues

00:28:28.540 And

00:28:30.660 But I really don't like what he's doing on trade

00:28:34.420 Or Canada

00:28:35.200 But what I am trying to do

00:28:37.360 That far too many in Canada's media are not

00:28:40.640 Is trying to understand the thinking that underlies it

00:28:43.560 And I know you'll say

00:28:45.480 Well, there is no thinking

00:28:46.940 There is thinking and strategy behind it

00:28:49.700 But you've got to look at guys like Vance

00:28:51.440 Or Lutnick

00:28:52.660 Or

00:28:53.620 Burgum

00:28:54.500 The guys in the background

00:28:55.900 They've got the strategy

00:28:56.880 And Trump is about the chaos out front

00:28:59.300 Right?

00:28:59.960 So he's going to be chaotic out front

00:29:01.640 He's going to keep everyone off kilter

00:29:04.120 And then you've got the guys in the background doing the work

00:29:06.880 He did similar stuff in the beginning of his first term

00:29:10.080 He just wasn't as well organized

00:29:11.600 And if we're going to respond

00:29:14.260 We need to understand what they're doing

00:29:16.820 But I'll tell you

00:29:18.060 I watched a CPAC speech yesterday

00:29:20.080 Because I assumed he was going to take a lot of shots at Canada

00:29:23.080 It's a very different view

00:29:25.880 When I was down at CPAC in 2012-2014

00:29:28.900 Canada would come up

00:29:30.800 And everyone would cheer Canada

00:29:32.120 And there would be chants of drill baby drill

00:29:34.180 Now I'm sure if he had mocked Canada

00:29:37.180 He would have gotten lots of cheers

00:29:38.520 He didn't

00:29:39.320 But he did talk about what he's going to do to the US economy

00:29:42.760 And I clipped it

00:29:43.620 And I shared it

00:29:44.520 And I've shared it again this morning

00:29:45.980 Saying we need to pay attention to this

00:29:48.620 Because what he's talking about doing with the US economy

00:29:51.400 Is just as much a threat to Canada

00:29:53.920 As the terrorists will be

00:29:56.960 In fact

00:29:57.380 If

00:29:58.300 As I put it this morning

00:29:59.980 If Trump deregulates the US economy

00:30:03.020 And brings the corporate tax rate down to match

00:30:06.480 Our effective corporate tax rate

00:30:08.640 Then we're screwed

00:30:10.720 Going back to Laurier

00:30:12.120 Industrial policy in Canada

00:30:14.460 Has been have a lower tax rate

00:30:15.920 Than the Americans

00:30:16.680 To attract investments

00:30:17.760 If he does all that

00:30:19.220 And we've got Mark Carney

00:30:20.880 Doubling the industrial carbon tax rate

00:30:23.860 Say goodbye to Algomas

00:30:25.400 Okay we're going to get into Carney

00:30:27.040 But like you know

00:30:29.100 Don't assume that I think

00:30:31.300 They don't think

00:30:32.820 I actually totally disagree

00:30:34.860 I believe that they do have a strategy

00:30:37.260 You know I wrote a column

00:30:38.400 About how they're flooding the zone

00:30:39.900 They're doing all of this stuff

00:30:41.780 Because I think they know

00:30:42.640 They're going to get marked up in the midterms

00:30:44.520 And they're not going to do

00:30:45.780 What they did last time

00:30:47.100 Which is wait

00:30:47.800 They're getting this stuff done fast

00:30:49.360 That's what you do

00:30:50.180 When you've got a government

00:30:51.720 And you've got a short period of time

00:30:53.720 You get to work right away

00:30:54.980 So I think it's quite deliberate

00:30:56.240 I don't think it's unstrategic at all

00:30:58.040 I just don't like what they're doing

00:30:59.960 But I think it's quite well planned

00:31:02.000 Yeah

00:31:03.060 Like anybody that thinks

00:31:04.920 I support what Trump is doing

00:31:06.260 Towards Canada

00:31:07.060 Give your head a shake

00:31:09.400 But I do get accused of that quite often

00:31:11.740 And I get accused of being a traitor

00:31:13.320 For you know

00:31:14.440 Went to talk to Steve Bannon

00:31:16.080 Why?

00:31:17.060 The guy understands how Trump thinks

00:31:18.820 Guess who's followed me

00:31:19.840 CTV

00:31:20.320 Put it on CTV National News

00:31:22.140 This week

00:31:23.220 You need to talk to them

00:31:26.100 You need to understand them

00:31:27.280 You need to read them

00:31:28.280 And try and figure out

00:31:29.520 What they're doing

00:31:30.420 It is a complete redesign

00:31:33.320 Of the global trading order

00:31:35.100 And a revamping of the American economy

00:31:38.160 And that's why we need to wake up

00:31:41.060 And get ready

00:31:42.420 And spend less time

00:31:44.340 You know

00:31:44.640 Circulating petitions

00:31:45.900 To revoke Elon Musk's

00:31:48.760 You know

00:31:50.680 Citizenship

00:31:51.440 And we need to do more

00:31:53.040 Than just buy Canadian cans of soup

00:31:55.140 I applaud you for

00:31:56.300 I saw you posted your

00:31:57.640 Sprague cannery

00:31:58.620 Maybe you'll give us a review here today

00:32:00.380 Of your soup

00:32:02.040 The pride of Belville

00:32:03.160 I applaud all of that

00:32:05.380 But we need to do more than that

00:32:07.620 In terms of

00:32:08.500 Okay

00:32:08.900 What are they doing on regulation?

00:32:10.860 What are they doing on taxes?

00:32:12.240 How do we respond?

00:32:13.400 For sure

00:32:13.760 But you've got to accept

00:32:14.780 There's an emotional component here too

00:32:16.740 We saw it in the hockey games

00:32:18.020 Actually we've seen it in every hockey game

00:32:19.940 We certainly saw it on Thursday night

00:32:23.260 People are upset

00:32:24.680 And they want to give expression to that

00:32:26.700 Is that all illegitimate?

00:32:29.700 No

00:32:30.220 What is illegitimate

00:32:31.280 Is that too many of our political leaders

00:32:33.320 And I'll include Doug Ford

00:32:34.560 In the middle of his election campaign right now

00:32:36.640 But especially

00:32:37.740 The guys up in Ottawa

00:32:39.520 They're not doing

00:32:41.320 The homework

00:32:42.380 They're just trying to get you excited

00:32:45.080 Okay

00:32:46.600 So

00:32:47.040 Look

00:32:48.120 Dominic LeBlanc's done some good stuff

00:32:50.160 I saw him down in Washington

00:32:51.500 Going in for meetings

00:32:52.960 With Trump's top advisors

00:32:54.380 That's great

00:32:55.260 But we need to do the homework

00:32:57.320 On our own economy here

00:32:59.020 Instead we've got people

00:33:01.120 Trying to gin up the mob

00:33:02.320 You've got a liberal leadership race

00:33:05.040 When we need leadership

00:33:06.300 Not a leadership race

00:33:07.560 And so no

00:33:10.200 It's under

00:33:10.840 Everything that Canadians

00:33:11.980 Doing is understandable

00:33:13.220 In terms of being angry

00:33:15.160 But our leaders

00:33:16.600 Shouldn't just be trying

00:33:17.860 To get us upset

00:33:19.220 Ford is

00:33:20.740 Doing the same thing

00:33:22.700 During his election

00:33:23.720 To try and win the election

00:33:25.060 And it's working for him

00:33:26.540 Now I will say

00:33:28.000 That he has a lot of

00:33:29.080 Policies in the background

00:33:30.420 That if implemented

00:33:31.280 And that he's talking about

00:33:32.560 During the campaign

00:33:33.400 Will help

00:33:34.720 But the feds need to do their part

00:33:36.840 And

00:33:37.960 You know

00:33:39.200 So far

00:33:39.820 Not a lot of action up there

00:33:41.640 So let's talk about the feds

00:33:43.060 So the liberals

00:33:43.780 Have got

00:33:44.960 Their leadership debates

00:33:47.000 This week

00:33:48.280 French

00:33:49.860 And then English

00:33:50.900 And

00:33:52.100 I was on CFRA this morning

00:33:54.400 And I opined

00:33:55.320 We all know what

00:33:56.380 Christopher Freeland's like

00:33:57.460 We don't care about

00:33:58.460 The other two

00:33:59.060 Who are left in the race

00:34:00.200 It's really to see

00:34:01.620 Can Mark Carney

00:34:02.860 Perform

00:34:03.540 Because

00:34:04.300 You know

00:34:05.200 Pierre Polyev

00:34:05.980 I said to the CFRA folks

00:34:07.820 Pierre Polyev

00:34:08.860 Whether you like him or not

00:34:09.840 Is a hell of a debater

00:34:11.220 He's a hell of a political fighter

00:34:13.060 And a performer

00:34:14.280 And Carney needs to show

00:34:16.060 He's up to that

00:34:17.200 Do you agree?

00:34:18.460 Do you think that

00:34:18.960 These debates are really important

00:34:20.620 For Mark Carney

00:34:21.400 To the extent that people

00:34:26.120 Will pay attention

00:34:27.020 So Monday's debate

00:34:28.240 Is in French

00:34:29.100 And

00:34:30.020 You know

00:34:31.300 For Quebecers

00:34:33.240 Who have

00:34:33.840 Not paid a lot of attention

00:34:35.520 To Carney

00:34:36.120 Or have only seen him

00:34:37.020 In very controlled

00:34:37.940 Settings

00:34:39.020 Such as his

00:34:40.000 One on one interview

00:34:41.640 With Patrice

00:34:42.540 On Radcan

00:34:44.240 What they will notice

00:34:46.840 Is that

00:34:47.760 He speaks

00:34:48.440 Ottawa bureaucrat French

00:34:49.880 And those of us

00:34:51.760 Who have lived

00:34:52.140 In the nation's capital

00:34:53.220 Know what that's like

00:34:54.100 It gets you by

00:34:55.700 But it's not great

00:34:56.540 Freeland is very good

00:34:57.620 In French

00:34:57.960 Frank Bayliss

00:34:58.900 Smart guy

00:35:00.540 Fluently bilingual

00:35:03.400 Like Jean Charest

00:35:04.460 You don't know if he's an Anglo

00:35:07.780 Or Franco

00:35:08.440 Watch for Bayliss

00:35:10.540 In both debates

00:35:11.840 To surprise people

00:35:13.220 In taking on Carney

00:35:14.820 Do I think he has a chance

00:35:16.220 Of winning?

00:35:17.120 Wouldn't appear so

00:35:18.160 But it'll be interesting

00:35:19.540 To see him going up

00:35:20.660 Against Carney

00:35:21.240 Because Freeland

00:35:22.500 Is a known commodity

00:35:23.440 And I don't think

00:35:25.500 She's

00:35:25.820 Excuse me

00:35:26.720 I don't think

00:35:28.140 She's a good debater

00:35:28.960 No she's not

00:35:29.620 A great communicator

00:35:30.560 When she's up

00:35:31.820 Against Polly

00:35:32.720 Ev in the house

00:35:33.460 And he asks

00:35:34.580 A good question

00:35:35.700 She stands up

00:35:37.240 And it's like

00:35:38.360 The shorter

00:35:39.780 Female version

00:35:40.700 Of Preston Manning

00:35:43.200 Mr. Speaker

00:35:45.000 And then she

00:35:46.880 Lectures

00:35:47.800 She doesn't

00:35:49.260 She's not good

00:35:50.180 At the back and forth

00:35:50.960 We'll find out

00:35:51.560 If Carney is

00:35:52.360 So far

00:35:53.700 He's pretty untested

00:35:55.220 On that

00:35:55.740 In terms of

00:35:57.180 He's completely

00:35:57.980 Untested

00:35:58.920 This is like

00:35:59.500 My point to everybody

00:36:00.460 Well I can't

00:36:01.300 I can't remember one

00:36:02.260 But I don't say

00:36:02.840 Like he hasn't had

00:36:04.280 Well going on

00:36:05.140 The Daily Show

00:36:06.040 And you know

00:36:06.880 Talking about

00:36:08.540 A script

00:36:09.380 Which is what it was

00:36:10.940 Is like big deal

00:36:11.980 Like this is

00:36:12.760 That was so scripted

00:36:14.100 Now when you look

00:36:14.720 At all of his

00:36:15.200 Other interviews

00:36:15.780 This is different

00:36:16.600 You're going into

00:36:17.320 A debate with

00:36:17.900 Pierre Polly Ev

00:36:19.120 Who is

00:36:19.960 You know

00:36:20.220 This is

00:36:20.520 Liberals make fun

00:36:21.360 Of Polly Ev

00:36:21.820 For being a politician

00:36:22.680 His whole life

00:36:23.540 Yeah okay fine

00:36:24.860 But like

00:36:25.440 He's also been

00:36:26.320 A politician

00:36:26.840 His whole life

00:36:27.580 It means he's

00:36:28.460 Really good

00:36:29.060 At this stuff

00:36:29.980 And he's going

00:36:30.920 To make mincemeat

00:36:31.820 Of Carney

00:36:32.340 If Carney

00:36:32.860 Doesn't show

00:36:33.480 That he's got

00:36:33.940 The chops for it

00:36:35.000 But the one person

00:36:36.740 Who's not going

00:36:37.200 To be on that stage

00:36:38.660 Will be poor

00:36:40.120 Ruby Della

00:36:40.820 Sorry

00:36:42.280 And I shouldn't

00:36:43.440 Laugh

00:36:43.820 But I'm laughing

00:36:44.860 Does anybody care

00:36:46.920 Other than Ruby Della

00:36:48.180 That Ruby Della

00:36:48.980 Is no longer

00:36:49.580 In the liberal

00:36:50.040 Leadership race

00:36:50.800 No

00:36:51.820 I'm guessing

00:36:52.740 She did get

00:36:53.420 A lot of people

00:36:54.120 Backing her

00:36:55.320 She had

00:36:56.660 Enough donors

00:36:57.480 To pay the

00:36:57.960 350,000

00:36:59.180 They just

00:36:59.860 Weren't Canadians

00:37:00.600 Apparently

00:37:01.480 You know

00:37:03.460 There's a few

00:37:04.400 Questions about

00:37:05.160 Mark Carney's

00:37:05.900 Donor list

00:37:06.380 With all these

00:37:06.900 People living

00:37:07.400 In New York

00:37:07.980 Donating

00:37:08.520 Yeah

00:37:10.740 People that work

00:37:11.700 At the World Bank

00:37:12.960 Or other financial

00:37:13.760 Institutions

00:37:14.420 In New York City

00:37:15.260 Are donating

00:37:15.860 To Carney's campaign

00:37:16.960 It's in the

00:37:18.140 Lists

00:37:18.620 But there's

00:37:20.060 No questions

00:37:20.580 For Mark Carney

00:37:21.500 No no

00:37:21.960 Not only

00:37:23.780 Is the media

00:37:24.280 Giving Carney

00:37:24.880 A pass

00:37:25.360 In this country

00:37:26.940 But so too

00:37:28.020 Is the Liberal

00:37:28.420 Party

00:37:28.680 Let's face it

00:37:29.440 Taking Ruby Della

00:37:30.720 Out

00:37:31.160 Whatever you think

00:37:32.300 Of her candidacy

00:37:33.080 They'd allowed

00:37:33.740 Her in

00:37:34.340 Until this point

00:37:35.060 They had vetted

00:37:36.020 Her

00:37:36.200 They let her

00:37:36.860 In

00:37:37.100 They took

00:37:37.780 Her $350,000

00:37:39.280 And then said

00:37:40.200 Okay she's

00:37:41.260 Causing problems

00:37:42.100 For the guy

00:37:42.820 We want

00:37:43.360 We need to

00:37:43.860 Get rid

00:37:44.240 Of her

00:37:44.540 And then

00:37:45.740 The way

00:37:46.160 They did

00:37:46.620 It

00:37:46.900 Okay so

00:37:47.720 Pascal St.

00:37:48.780 Ange

00:37:49.060 And everyone

00:37:49.920 Saying who

00:37:50.780 The Heritage

00:37:52.340 Minister

00:37:53.100 Has just

00:37:53.960 Announced

00:37:54.400 That a

00:37:54.780 Liberal

00:37:55.040 Government

00:37:55.500 Will almost

00:37:56.340 Double

00:37:56.840 CBC's

00:37:57.880 Annual

00:37:59.180 Allotment

00:37:59.760 And then

00:38:01.440 Immediately after

00:38:02.560 That the

00:38:03.400 Liberal Party

00:38:03.980 Gives

00:38:04.460 CBC

00:38:05.380 The

00:38:06.460 Muse

00:38:07.500 That

00:38:07.720 Ruby Dalla

00:38:08.220 Is out

00:38:08.780 So that

00:38:09.520 They can

00:38:09.880 Break it

00:38:10.300 As Ruby

00:38:10.760 Dalla

00:38:11.000 Is coming

00:38:11.380 On with

00:38:11.940 Them

00:38:12.220 And the

00:38:13.180 Liberal Party

00:38:13.640 Has not

00:38:14.160 Told

00:38:14.600 Dalla

00:38:15.960 Or

00:38:17.260 The public

00:38:18.180 That was

00:38:19.700 Way too

00:38:20.620 That was

00:38:21.140 Pretty rotten

00:38:21.940 That was

00:38:22.500 Actually

00:38:22.860 That was a

00:38:24.080 Cruel thing

00:38:24.600 To do

00:38:25.100 To her

00:38:25.860 I'm not

00:38:27.060 A fan

00:38:27.520 Of her

00:38:27.880 Style

00:38:28.340 But

00:38:28.680 That was

00:38:29.620 Really

00:38:30.020 Yeah

00:38:30.620 Candidacy

00:38:31.540 Was weird

00:38:32.340 I mean

00:38:33.300 She hasn't

00:38:33.640 Been involved

00:38:34.220 In

00:38:34.580 In years

00:38:35.620 And she

00:38:35.940 Was taking

00:38:36.480 A lot

00:38:36.780 Of shots

00:38:37.220 At

00:38:37.520 Carney

00:38:38.200 Her

00:38:40.840 Social

00:38:41.180 Media

00:38:41.480 Game

00:38:41.820 Was pretty

00:38:42.240 Good

00:38:42.620 Her

00:38:43.180 Screen

00:38:44.360 Time

00:38:44.940 Was weird

00:38:45.500 Like she

00:38:45.820 Always looked

00:38:46.160 Really blurry

00:38:46.840 Needed a

00:38:48.120 Better webcam

00:38:48.860 But we'll

00:38:50.840 See if she

00:38:51.280 Appeals

00:38:52.680 Final question

00:38:55.460 I want to ask you

00:38:56.160 At polls

00:38:56.640 Because I know

00:38:57.440 You're sitting

00:38:58.020 There at your

00:38:58.860 Typewriter

00:38:59.440 You're

00:39:00.360 Selectric

00:39:02.120 And typing

00:39:02.940 Up a column

00:39:03.680 About the polls

00:39:05.280 The state

00:39:06.320 Of them

00:39:06.760 Like what

00:39:07.620 Is going

00:39:08.160 On

00:39:08.600 Like can

00:39:09.120 You just

00:39:09.400 Tell people

00:39:09.840 The federally

00:39:10.700 And you

00:39:11.280 Know to

00:39:11.500 Some extent

00:39:12.040 Provincially

00:39:12.660 It's really

00:39:13.840 Hard to

00:39:14.440 Figure out

00:39:15.060 You know

00:39:15.400 Who's on

00:39:15.980 First these

00:39:16.780 Days

00:39:17.200 Because all

00:39:18.040 The pollsters

00:39:18.620 Are doing

00:39:19.180 And saying

00:39:19.700 Weird things

00:39:20.320 Can you give

00:39:20.760 Us a sense

00:39:21.240 Of what's

00:39:21.560 The reality

00:39:22.100 Well the race

00:39:23.300 Is tightened

00:39:23.800 Federally

00:39:24.700 Which you

00:39:25.720 Know I've

00:39:26.580 Said would

00:39:26.980 Happen

00:39:27.420 Yep

00:39:27.740 I mean go

00:39:28.660 Back a year

00:39:29.820 You and I

00:39:30.740 Talking about

00:39:31.340 This

00:39:31.680 There is a

00:39:33.100 Pollster that

00:39:33.700 I don't

00:39:34.200 Believe

00:39:34.600 And I

00:39:36.060 Posted why

00:39:36.860 Yesterday

00:39:37.920 And Frank

00:39:38.600 Graves replied

00:39:39.420 And this is

00:39:40.200 Ecos

00:39:40.580 I said like

00:39:41.520 Look here's

00:39:42.320 Frank Graves

00:39:42.760 Comments

00:39:44.800 About making

00:39:45.860 Sure that

00:39:46.320 Pierre Polyev

00:39:46.940 Is never

00:39:47.440 Prime minister

00:39:49.380 And I said

00:39:50.880 This is why

00:39:51.260 I don't believe

00:39:51.700 And Frank's

00:39:52.100 Like oh

00:39:52.320 That's one

00:39:53.040 Post and I

00:39:54.140 Deleted it

00:39:54.900 And no

00:39:56.160 There's a

00:39:56.560 Pile of

00:39:56.960 Posts and a

00:39:57.600 Pile of

00:39:57.940 Comments over

00:39:58.560 The years

00:39:58.980 That make

00:39:59.380 Me question

00:39:59.920 So I just

00:40:00.880 Discount

00:40:01.600 Graves and

00:40:02.820 He's the one

00:40:03.380 That keeps

00:40:03.740 Saying it's

00:40:04.220 Really tight

00:40:05.060 I think he's

00:40:05.520 Got one saying

00:40:06.100 They're essentially

00:40:06.620 Tied this weekend

00:40:07.640 I'm not buying

00:40:10.520 It

00:40:10.780 What's

00:40:12.160 Leger got

00:40:12.760 Leger came

00:40:13.540 Out with

00:40:13.900 One

00:40:14.200 They finished

00:40:15.120 Pulling

00:40:15.560 Earlier this

00:40:16.100 Week

00:40:16.340 41% for

00:40:18.140 The

00:40:18.580 Conservatives

00:40:19.560 33%

00:40:20.860 For the

00:40:22.480 Liberals

00:40:22.740 11%

00:40:23.740 For the

00:40:24.120 NDP

00:40:24.560 Nanos

00:40:26.380 Is a

00:40:27.360 Seven

00:40:27.640 So that's

00:40:28.240 An eight

00:40:28.480 Point gap

00:40:29.040 For

00:40:29.480 Lead for

00:40:30.580 The

00:40:30.700 Conservatives

00:40:31.340 Nanos has

00:40:32.700 A seven

00:40:33.520 Point

00:40:34.140 Lead for

00:40:35.380 The

00:40:35.720 Conservatives

00:40:37.520 Abacus

00:40:38.420 Abacus

00:40:38.440 Hasn't

00:40:38.720 Pulled

00:40:39.000 In

00:40:39.140 Two

00:40:39.320 Weeks

00:40:39.600 So

00:40:39.700 Expect

00:40:40.120 One

00:40:40.360 From

00:40:40.540 Them

00:40:40.780 Soon

00:40:41.180 They

00:40:41.760 Still

00:40:41.980 Had a

00:40:42.360 20

00:40:42.760 Point

00:40:43.000 Lead

00:40:43.220 And if

00:40:43.480 You

00:40:43.540 Remember

00:40:43.800 When

00:40:44.500 Ecos

00:40:44.940 Came out

00:40:45.360 With that

00:40:45.640 Poll

00:40:45.880 Saying it's

00:40:46.320 Really

00:40:46.560 Tight

00:40:46.920 Abacus

00:40:47.980 Did two

00:40:48.620 Different

00:40:49.260 Polls

00:40:49.800 In the

00:40:50.080 Same

00:40:50.320 Week

00:40:50.580 Just to

00:40:50.920 Make sure

00:40:51.260 That they

00:40:51.600 Weren't

00:40:51.840 Missing

00:40:52.180 Something

00:40:52.560 And they

00:40:53.320 Got

00:40:53.460 Similar

00:40:53.780 Results

00:40:54.280 So

00:40:54.580 I always

00:40:55.400 Say

00:40:55.580 Wait

00:40:55.960 For

00:40:56.120 Trends

00:40:57.160 Don't

00:40:57.500 Get too

00:40:57.840 Excited

00:40:58.220 If your

00:40:58.520 Party

00:40:58.760 Is really

00:40:59.200 High

00:40:59.540 Or really

00:40:59.960 Low

00:41:00.300 Wait

00:41:01.100 For

00:41:01.280 Trends

00:41:01.820 11%

00:41:02.940 For the

00:41:03.420 NDP

00:41:04.300 In that

00:41:04.860 Leger

00:41:05.220 Poll

00:41:05.540 Seems

00:41:06.900 Like an

00:41:07.240 Outlier

00:41:07.620 For me

00:41:08.140 So

00:41:09.560 And

00:41:10.660 Campaigns

00:41:11.300 Matter

00:41:11.580 You

00:41:11.980 Always

00:41:12.300 Say that

00:41:12.780 Too

00:41:13.060 So

00:41:13.520 They

00:41:14.180 Absolutely

00:41:14.700 Do

00:41:15.020 And

00:41:15.280 And just

00:41:16.160 Quickly

00:41:16.520 On the

00:41:17.120 Provincial

00:41:19.100 Side

00:41:19.980 In

00:41:20.140 Ontario

00:41:20.540 Because

00:41:20.800 We're in

00:41:21.060 The

00:41:21.160 Election

00:41:21.520 Yeah

00:41:21.960 Doug

00:41:23.100 Ford

00:41:23.340 Is

00:41:23.520 Well

00:41:24.120 Ahead

00:41:24.560 And

00:41:26.300 It's

00:41:26.480 A race

00:41:26.760 For

00:41:26.920 Second

00:41:27.180 Place

00:41:27.740 And

00:41:28.160 Unfortunately

00:41:29.240 There

00:41:29.560 The

00:41:29.740 Pollsters

00:41:30.060 Have

00:41:30.400 The

00:41:30.760 Liberals

00:41:31.060 And

00:41:31.160 The

00:41:31.260 NDP

00:41:31.620 Bouncing

00:41:32.180 All

00:41:32.400 Over

00:41:32.640 Ford

00:41:33.020 Steady

00:41:33.480 Well

00:41:33.700 Above

00:41:33.940 40

00:41:34.320 Could

00:41:35.020 Get

00:41:35.200 A

00:41:35.320 Bigger

00:41:35.520 Majority

00:41:36.000 Than

00:41:36.160 Last

00:41:36.480 Time

00:41:36.780 But

00:41:37.360 Who's

00:41:37.620 Going

00:41:37.740 To

00:41:37.800 Be

00:41:38.000 The

00:41:38.480 Opposition

00:41:40.320 Leader

00:41:40.680 And

00:41:41.460 Quite

00:41:41.940 Frankly

00:41:42.440 I

00:41:43.160 Know

00:41:43.320 It

00:41:43.460 Looks

00:41:43.620 Like

00:41:43.820 Bonnie

00:41:44.160 Crombie

00:41:44.560 Is

00:41:44.660 Well

00:41:44.840 Out

00:41:45.000 In

00:41:45.120 Front

00:41:45.400 That's

00:41:45.860 In

00:41:45.940 Some

00:41:46.160 Polls

00:41:46.560 And

00:41:47.080 Other

00:41:47.240 Polls

00:41:51.960 Pulling

00:41:52.600 Similar

00:41:53.020 Voting

00:41:53.680 And

00:41:54.060 Then

00:41:54.220 You

00:41:54.400 Look

00:41:54.600 At

00:41:54.720 The

00:41:54.820 Fact

00:41:55.080 That

00:41:55.320 The

00:41:55.540 Liberals

00:41:55.880 Are

00:41:56.100 Have

00:41:56.920 Like

00:41:57.120 27%

00:41:58.060 Across

00:41:58.420 The

00:41:58.600 Whole

00:41:58.740 Province

00:41:59.160 But

00:41:59.380 The

00:41:59.520 NDP

00:41:59.820 Is

00:42:00.020 Concentrated

00:42:00.760 In

00:42:00.980 Hamilton

00:42:01.640 Niagara

00:42:02.240 Windsor

00:42:02.900 The

00:42:03.400 Sioux

00:42:03.700 The

00:42:04.740 NDP

00:42:05.060 Could

00:42:05.360 Still

00:42:05.580 Be

00:42:05.760 The

00:42:05.920 Official

00:42:06.220 Opposition

00:42:06.820 I

00:42:07.280 Think

00:42:07.740 Crombie

00:42:08.680 And

00:42:08.780 The

00:42:08.900 Liberals

00:42:09.140 Will

00:42:09.300 Get

00:42:09.520 Party

00:42:09.880 Status

00:42:10.260 If

00:42:11.760 They

00:42:11.920 Get

00:42:12.140 A

00:42:12.260 Good

00:42:12.440 Get

00:42:12.720 Out

00:42:12.880 The

00:42:13.020 Vote

00:42:13.280 They

00:42:14.040 Could

00:42:14.560 Become

00:42:14.880 Official

00:42:15.260 Opposition

00:42:15.780 But

00:42:16.060 Neither

00:42:16.500 One

00:42:16.780 Of

00:42:16.860 Them

00:42:21.960 The

00:42:22.160 Issues

00:42:22.660 Doug

00:42:23.220 Ford

00:42:23.460 Isn't

00:42:23.700 Just

00:42:23.900 Dominating

00:42:24.460 On

00:42:24.660 The

00:42:24.780 Number

00:42:24.980 One

00:42:25.240 Issue

00:42:25.540 Which

00:42:25.860 Is

00:42:26.060 Dealing

00:42:26.620 With

00:42:26.820 Trump

00:42:27.160 He's

00:42:28.200 Dominating

00:42:28.720 On

00:42:29.100 Like

00:42:29.280 The

00:42:29.420 Top

00:42:29.640 Seven

00:42:30.000 Issues

00:42:30.440 There

00:42:31.300 You

00:42:31.460 Go

00:42:31.660 Folks

00:42:32.120 That's

00:42:32.840 The

00:42:33.020 State

00:42:33.440 Of

00:42:33.660 The

00:42:33.800 Numbers

00:42:34.200 That's

00:42:34.500 The

00:42:34.640 State

00:42:34.860 Of

00:42:34.980 The

00:42:35.080 Play

00:42:35.360 From

00:42:36.120 Our

00:42:36.320 Friend

00:42:36.780 Mr.

00:42:37.560 Lilly

00:42:37.780 Sir

00:42:38.640 I

00:42:39.780 Believe

00:42:40.120 You

00:42:40.360 Are

00:42:40.500 Getting

00:42:40.760 A

00:42:41.020 Special

00:42:41.340 Recognition

00:42:42.120 Tomorrow

00:42:42.460 Night

00:42:42.760 I'm

00:42:43.060 Going

00:42:43.180 To

00:42:43.260 Be

00:42:43.420 There

00:42:43.720 To

00:42:44.440 Applaud

00:42:44.960 You

00:42:45.260 We'll

00:42:46.020 Relate

00:42:46.840 More

00:42:47.220 Of

00:42:47.360 The

00:42:47.460 Details

00:42:47.920 To

00:42:48.180 People

00:42:48.480 After

00:42:48.880 The

00:42:49.100 Fact

00:42:49.420 But

00:42:51.140 I'm

00:42:51.380 Looking

00:42:51.560 Forward

00:42:51.800 To

00:42:51.980 Seeing

00:42:52.240 You

00:42:52.460 At

00:42:52.600 That

00:42:52.780 Special

00:42:53.280 Event

00:42:53.580 Thank

00:42:54.180 You

00:42:54.340 We'll

00:42:54.900 See

00:42:55.100 You

00:42:55.200 There

00:42:55.360 Thank

00:42:55.660 You

00:43:17.220 You

00:43:18.120 Swift

00:43:18.440 Nominate

00:43:19.280 Them

00:43:19.780 Oh

00:43:21.460 Darling

00:43:21.820 Be

00:43:22.140 A

00:43:22.360 Selfish

00:43:23.140 Of

00:43:23.380 Them

00:43:24.020 Oh

00:43:26.360 Poor

00:43:26.840 Boys

00:43:27.220 Fighting

00:43:27.900 Peasants

00:43:29.020 In

00:43:29.960 Foreign

00:43:30.500 Lands

00:43:31.160 How

00:43:33.140 Loudly

00:43:33.740 You

00:43:34.060 Praise

00:43:34.520 Them

00:43:34.900 Oh

00:43:36.720 But

00:43:36.980 Where

00:43:37.360 Were

00:43:37.660 You

00:43:37.960 Then

00:43:38.580 I

00:43:40.460 Can

00:43:40.640 Dance

00:43:40.960 With

00:43:41.340 Your

00:43:41.600 Dead

00:43:42.100 You

00:43:42.440 Taunt

00:43:43.020 Skin

00:43:45.560 Is

00:43:45.980 Soft

00:43:46.460 And

00:43:46.880 Warm

00:43:47.580 Your

00:43:48.240 Eyes

00:43:48.700 Are

00:43:48.880 Calling

00:43:49.280 Down

00:43:50.680 Search

00:43:52.320 The

00:43:52.600 Greedy

00:43:53.400 Wild

00:43:54.040 To

00:43:54.460 Say

00:43:55.020 Men's

00:43:55.540 Hearts

00:43:55.940 Are

00:43:56.300 Dark

00:43:57.000 But

00:43:59.520 I

00:43:59.800 Believe

00:44:00.620 There'll

00:44:01.120 Be

00:44:01.560 A

00:44:02.000 Light

00:44:02.440 That

00:44:02.860 Shines

00:44:03.560 Which

00:44:04.120 Now

00:44:04.520 Is

00:44:04.860 Just

00:44:05.320 A

00:44:05.660 Spark

00:44:06.420 No

00:44:07.620 Gods

00:44:08.360 No

00:44:08.700 Masters

00:44:10.360 No

00:44:11.320 Kings

00:44:11.860 No

00:44:12.280 Death

00:44:12.760 Contestors

00:44:14.280 No

00:44:15.180 Gods

00:44:15.880 No

00:44:16.620 No

00:44:17.180 Masters

00:44:17.880 No

00:44:18.820 Kings

00:44:19.340 No

00:44:19.760 Death

00:44:20.240 Contestors

00:44:21.660 Buried

00:44:22.600 With

00:44:23.040 Us

00:44:23.660 Sons

00:44:26.160 Of

00:44:26.620 Ambrace

00:44:28.160 Tell

00:44:33.880 Tell

00:44:33.900 The

00:44:34.100 Teachers

00:44:34.660 And

00:44:35.100 Nurses

00:44:35.740 And

00:44:35.960 Soldiers

00:44:36.960 They

00:44:37.760 Must

00:44:38.060 Be

00:44:38.300 Lazy

00:44:38.760 And

00:44:39.180 Or

00:44:39.480 Dumb

00:44:39.980 While

00:44:41.320 You

00:44:41.840 Earn

00:44:42.360 A

00:44:42.520 Hundred

00:44:42.860 To

00:44:43.340 One

00:44:43.880 Oh

00:44:45.620 Don't

00:44:46.080 Don't

00:44:46.100 You

00:44:46.240 Fucking

00:44:46.800 Utter

00:44:47.480 The

00:44:47.980 Word

00:44:48.620 Meritocracy

00:44:50.540 So

00:44:52.800 What's

00:44:53.140 Our

00:44:53.300 Priorities

00:44:55.260 With

00:44:56.600 People

00:44:57.060 Or

00:44:57.580 Markets

00:44:58.040 Being

00:44:58.360 Free

00:44:58.920 I

00:45:00.300 Hear

00:45:00.560 Sudan's

00:45:01.140 A

00:45:01.300 Dusty

00:45:01.820 Place

00:45:02.500 And

00:45:05.080 Every

00:45:05.520 Day

00:45:06.160 Oculous

00:45:07.680 Black

00:45:08.700 Faces

00:45:09.540 Serves

00:45:12.080 The

00:45:12.280 Greedy

00:45:13.080 World

00:45:13.660 To

00:45:14.080 Save

00:45:14.700 Men's

00:45:15.180 Hearts

00:45:15.600 Are

00:45:15.960 Dark

00:45:16.640 But

00:45:19.100 I

00:45:19.380 Believe

00:45:20.300 There

00:45:20.620 Be

00:45:21.200 A

00:45:21.680 Light

00:45:22.120 That

00:45:22.540 Shines

00:45:23.240 Which

00:45:23.800 Now

00:45:24.220 Is

00:45:24.540 Just

00:45:25.020 As

00:45:25.400 Bright

00:45:26.140 No

00:45:27.300 Gods

00:45:28.000 No

00:45:29.240 Masters

00:45:30.020 No

00:45:31.040 Kings

00:45:31.560 No

00:45:32.000 Contestors

00:45:33.980 No

00:45:34.840 Gods

00:45:35.600 No

00:45:36.740 Masters

00:45:37.540 No

00:45:38.560 Kings

00:45:39.080 No

00:45:39.500 Contestors

00:45:41.340 Bury

00:45:42.200 Their

00:45:42.720 Lust

00:45:43.300 Sons

00:45:45.780 Of

00:45:46.320 Ever

00:45:47.180 Rest

00:45:48.480 No

00:46:09.440 Gods

00:46:10.140 No

00:46:10.580 Masters

00:46:12.200 No

00:46:13.220 Kings

00:46:13.700 No

00:46:14.200 Contestors

00:46:15.480 No

00:46:16.980 Gods

00:46:17.720 No

00:46:18.000 Masters

00:46:19.580 No

00:46:20.600 Kings

00:46:21.180 No

00:46:21.560 Contestors

00:46:23.600 No

00:46:24.560 Gods

00:46:25.600 No

00:46:26.420 Masters

00:46:27.020 This

00:46:31.260 Is

00:46:32.240 CFRA

00:46:33.040 Live

00:46:33.640 Sunday

00:46:34.340 Political

00:46:34.940 Panel

00:46:35.420 And

00:46:38.540 Welcome

00:46:38.780 To

00:46:39.040 It

00:46:39.280 On

00:46:39.780 A

00:46:39.920 Sunday

00:46:40.080 Morning

00:46:40.420 Thanks

00:46:40.680 So

00:46:40.800 Much

00:46:40.900 For

00:46:41.060 Joining

00:46:41.340 Us

00:46:41.560 Joining

00:46:41.800 Us

00:46:41.960 For

00:46:42.160 Our

00:46:42.360 CFRA

00:46:42.740 Live

00:46:43.020 Sunday

00:46:43.260 Political

00:46:43.620 Panel

00:46:43.900 Is

00:46:44.220 The

00:46:44.340 President

00:46:44.600 At

00:46:44.860 Tracks

00:46:45.140 And

00:46:45.300 Strategies

00:46:45.760 He

00:46:45.940 Is

00:46:46.180 Carl

00:46:46.460 Belanger

00:46:46.900 Carl

00:46:47.240 Good

00:46:47.420 Morning

00:46:47.740 Morning

00:46:48.480 Andrew

00:46:48.860 Warren

00:46:49.440 Kinsella

00:46:49.800 Is

00:46:50.020 A

00:46:50.120 Strategist

00:46:50.540 And

00:46:50.680 Post

00:46:50.880 Media

00:46:51.120 Columnist

00:46:51.600 You

00:46:51.760 Can

00:46:51.860 Read

00:46:52.020 His

00:46:52.240 Latest

00:46:52.580 In

00:46:52.840 The

00:46:52.940 Toronto

00:46:53.200 Sun

00:46:53.500 He

00:46:53.700 Is

00:46:53.880 Here

00:46:54.000 This

00:46:54.180 Morning

00:46:54.400 As

00:46:54.660 Well

00:46:54.840 Warren

00:46:55.080 Good

00:46:55.240 Morning

00:46:55.500 Morning

00:46:56.440 Everybody

00:46:56.920 And

00:46:57.440 Tasha

00:46:57.680 Carradid is

00:46:58.160 A

00:46:58.280 Political

00:46:58.540 Columnist

00:46:58.960 For

00:46:59.120 The

00:46:59.220 National

00:46:59.460 Post

00:46:59.820 And

00:47:00.000 Author

00:47:00.220 A

00:47:00.420 Writer

00:47:00.620 For

00:47:00.840 G

00:47:01.000 Zero

00:47:01.220 Media

00:47:01.540 Tasha

00:47:02.240 Good

00:47:02.400 Morning

00:47:02.640 Welcome

00:47:03.000 Hello

00:47:04.040 Lots

00:47:04.660 To

00:47:04.820 Talk

00:47:05.000 About

00:47:05.220 This

00:47:05.460 Week

00:47:05.820 Of

00:47:06.040 Course

00:47:06.460 But

00:47:06.780 Just

00:47:07.400 Over

00:47:07.580 The

00:47:07.700 Past

00:47:08.180 24

00:47:08.500 Hours

00:47:08.780 U.S.

00:47:09.580 President

00:47:09.800 Donald

00:47:10.060 Trump

00:47:10.300 And

00:47:10.440 Prime

00:47:10.620 Minister

00:47:10.820 Justin

00:47:11.160 Trudeau

00:47:11.540 Spoken

00:47:12.280 A

00:47:12.420 Phone

00:47:12.600 Call

00:47:12.820 Yesterday

00:47:13.200 Ahead

00:47:13.480 Of

00:47:13.600 The

00:47:13.760 Virtual

00:47:14.160 G7

00:47:14.840 Summit

00:47:15.180 That's

00:47:15.420 Happening

00:47:15.720 Tomorrow

00:47:16.240 They

00:47:16.920 Discussed

00:47:17.240 The

00:47:17.340 War

00:47:17.480 In

00:47:17.580 Ukraine

00:47:17.960 Efforts

00:47:18.560 To

00:47:18.740 Combat

00:47:19.140 Illegal

00:47:19.600 Fentanyl

00:47:20.160 As

00:47:20.440 Well

00:47:20.680 So

00:47:20.920 I

00:47:21.440 Suppose

00:47:21.720 It's

00:47:21.960 A

00:47:22.240 Good

00:47:22.400 Thing

00:47:22.580 That

00:47:22.720 The

00:47:22.840 Two

00:47:23.000 Leaders

00:47:23.280 Are

00:47:23.500 Talking

00:47:23.920 But

00:47:24.200 Warren

00:47:24.940 I'll

00:47:25.060 Start

00:47:25.200 With

00:47:25.320 You

00:47:25.440 This

00:47:25.740 This

00:47:26.040 Just

00:47:26.220 Kind

00:47:26.400 Of

00:47:26.480 Crystallizes

00:47:27.060 The

00:47:27.260 Two

00:47:27.540 Main

00:47:27.900 Issues

00:47:28.380 I

00:47:28.560 Guess

00:47:28.720 That

00:47:28.920 Are

00:47:29.020 In

00:47:29.180 The

00:47:29.300 Forefront

00:47:29.640 Right

00:47:29.840 Now

00:47:30.020 One

00:47:30.440 These

00:47:31.000 Threatening

00:47:31.400 And

00:47:31.600 Punishing

00:47:31.940 Tariffs

00:47:32.360 That

00:47:32.540 Could

00:47:32.700 Be

00:47:32.820 On

00:47:33.000 The

00:47:33.080 Way

00:47:33.300 And

00:47:33.540 Two

00:47:33.800 The

00:47:34.340 Stance

00:47:34.720 From

00:47:34.920 The

00:47:35.060 White

00:47:35.280 House

00:47:35.520 On

00:47:35.820 Ukraine

00:47:36.220 It's

00:47:36.700 All

00:47:36.900 Kind

00:47:37.120 Of

00:47:37.200 Mixed

00:47:37.400 Together

00:47:37.680 Right

00:47:37.960 Now

00:47:38.200 Is

00:47:38.880 This

00:47:39.140 Just

00:47:39.360 Kind

00:47:39.520 Of

00:47:39.580 Embodying

00:47:40.260 The

00:47:40.560 Governance

00:47:41.380 By

00:47:41.600 Chaos

00:47:41.960 That

00:47:42.120 We've

00:47:42.280 Seen

00:47:42.440 South

00:47:42.680 Of

00:47:42.800 The

00:47:42.900 Border

00:47:43.120 Kind

00:47:43.440 Of

00:47:43.520 All

00:47:43.720 The

00:47:43.920 Reactions

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00:47:44.680 Well

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00:47:46.560 I

00:47:46.720 Was

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00:47:47.400 After

00:47:47.700 Reading

00:47:48.080 The

00:47:48.300 Readouts

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00:47:49.240 Two

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00:47:49.720 Countries

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00:47:50.720 Readouts

00:47:52.300 For

00:47:52.580 Those

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00:47:53.600 It's

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00:47:54.220 The

00:47:54.460 Official

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00:47:58.980 And

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00:48:00.000 Readout

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00:48:05.540 Think

00:48:05.700 We

00:48:05.840 All

00:48:05.940 Know

00:48:06.100 Which

00:48:06.340 One

00:48:06.540 Is

00:48:06.700 Lying

00:48:07.120 Basically

00:48:09.060 The

00:48:09.340 American

00:48:09.740 One

00:48:10.000 Was

00:48:10.380 Prime

00:48:11.140 Minister

00:48:11.460 Trudeau

00:48:11.920 Agreed

00:48:12.360 With

00:48:12.520 Everything

00:48:12.900 That

00:48:13.140 President

00:48:13.500 Trump

00:48:13.860 Said

00:48:14.180 And

00:48:14.480 And

00:48:15.020 Indicated

00:48:15.540 How

00:48:15.840 Wonderful

00:48:16.360 President

00:48:16.900 Trump

00:48:17.260 Was

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00:48:17.720 Was

00:48:17.880 Along

00:48:18.280 Those

00:48:18.600 Lines

00:48:19.040 So

00:48:19.780 I

00:48:20.020 Think

00:48:20.320 We've

00:48:20.540 Now

00:48:20.700 Reached

00:48:21.000 The

00:48:21.200 Point

00:48:21.580 Where

00:48:22.060 Like

00:48:22.700 All

00:48:22.940 Burgeoning

00:48:23.660 Fascist

00:48:24.260 States

00:48:24.680 The

00:48:25.300 United

00:48:25.580 States

00:48:26.140 Government

00:48:27.040 Not

00:48:27.980 Its

00:48:28.180 People

00:48:28.620 We

00:48:29.560 Just

00:48:29.920 Can't

00:48:30.240 Trust

00:48:30.520 Anything

00:48:30.900 That

00:48:31.220 They

00:48:31.420 Say

00:48:31.800 And

00:48:33.000 I

00:48:33.440 Do

00:48:33.960 Believe

00:48:34.360 The

00:48:34.940 Prime

00:48:35.200 Minister

00:48:35.580 Reported

00:48:36.640 On

00:48:36.940 Our

00:48:37.120 Progress

00:48:37.760 On

00:48:38.000 Dealing

00:48:38.260 With

00:48:38.540 This

00:48:38.800 Virtually

00:48:39.340 Non-existent

00:48:40.140 Fentanyl

00:48:40.640 Threat

00:48:40.980 He

00:48:42.520 Indicated

00:48:42.940 Support

00:48:43.460 For

00:48:43.700 Ukraine

00:48:44.200 Which

00:48:44.700 We've

00:48:45.240 Been

00:48:45.360 Clear

00:48:45.660 About

00:48:45.980 Since

00:48:46.280 The

00:48:46.460 War

00:48:46.660 Began

00:48:47.020 Two

00:48:47.320 Years

00:48:47.840 Ago

00:48:48.200 This

00:48:48.720 Week

00:48:49.060 So

00:48:51.000 I

00:48:52.280 Think

00:48:52.540 Canada

00:48:53.040 Is

00:48:53.260 Doing

00:48:53.580 All

00:48:54.080 That

00:48:54.280 It

00:48:54.380 Can

00:48:54.580 Do

00:48:54.960 But

00:48:55.880 Like

00:48:56.200 The

00:48:56.340 Rest

00:48:56.600 Of

00:48:56.740 The

00:48:56.860 World

00:48:57.120 We're

00:48:57.360 Watching

00:48:57.800 With

00:48:58.080 Horror

00:48:58.460 As

00:48:58.820 The

00:48:59.020 United

00:48:59.300 States

00:48:59.800 Falls

00:49:00.780 Ever

00:49:01.200 Deeper

00:49:01.660 Down

00:49:01.900 This

00:49:02.120 Black

00:49:02.600 Hole

00:49:03.020 And

00:49:04.200 Resembling

00:49:05.880 As I

00:49:06.200 Say

00:49:06.640 Much

00:49:06.900 A

00:49:07.180 Fascist

00:49:07.940 State

00:49:08.340 I

00:49:08.940 Think

00:49:09.100 Canada

00:49:09.580 Is

00:49:10.320 Going

00:49:10.460 To

00:49:10.560 Continue

00:49:10.920 To

00:49:11.140 Do

00:49:11.340 What

00:49:11.500 It's

00:49:11.660 Been

00:49:11.820 Doing

00:49:12.180 With

00:49:12.520 Ukraine

00:49:12.920 Whoever

00:49:13.280 Is

00:49:13.580 Our

00:49:13.760 Leader

00:49:14.000 And

00:49:15.780 You

00:49:16.180 Know

00:49:16.320 I

00:49:16.640 Want

00:49:17.080 To

00:49:17.180 Applaud

00:49:17.560 Trudeau

00:49:18.200 Something

00:49:18.620 I

00:49:18.820 Don't

00:49:19.040 Do

00:49:19.240 Often

00:49:19.640 He

00:49:20.440 I

00:49:20.700 Think

00:49:20.840 I

00:49:21.640 Think

00:49:21.740 I

00:49:22.380 Think

00:49:22.960 He's

00:49:23.420 Been

00:49:23.560 Spending

00:49:23.840 So

00:49:24.040 Much

00:49:24.180 Time

00:49:24.420 In

00:49:24.560 Europe

00:49:24.840 Is

00:49:25.540 He's

00:49:25.840 Been

00:49:25.980 Scrambling

00:49:26.640 To

00:49:26.920 Fashion

00:49:27.360 Trade

00:49:27.860 Deals

00:49:28.440 With

00:49:29.300 European

00:49:29.780 Nations

00:49:30.440 To

00:49:30.920 Make

00:49:31.140 Up

00:49:31.320 For

00:49:31.480 What

00:49:31.700 We're

00:49:31.880 Going

00:49:32.000 To

00:49:32.080 Lose

00:49:32.360 With

00:49:32.580 The

00:49:32.700 Americans

00:49:33.180 In

00:49:33.520 A

00:49:33.640 Few

00:49:33.800 Days

00:49:34.080 Time

00:49:34.460 So

00:49:35.280 You

00:49:35.620 Know

00:49:35.700 I

00:49:35.780 Think

00:49:35.920 The

00:49:36.040 Canadian

00:49:36.260 Government

00:49:36.560 Is

00:49:36.740 Doing

00:49:36.960 What

00:49:37.140 It

00:49:37.280 Should

00:49:37.520 The

00:49:38.200 American

00:49:38.540 Government

00:49:39.040 Is

00:49:39.880 I

00:49:40.500 Don't

00:49:40.620 It

00:49:40.840 Feels

00:49:41.080 Like

00:49:41.300 It's

00:49:41.480 Lost

00:49:41.820 It

00:49:43.060 Feels

00:49:43.660 Like

00:49:43.840 It's

00:49:43.960 Very

00:49:44.140 Hard

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00:49:44.740 Kind

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00:49:46.820 Way

00:49:47.060 Again

00:49:47.360 Just

00:49:47.580 In

00:49:47.740 Terms

00:49:47.960 Of

00:49:48.060 What's

00:49:48.320 Happening

00:49:48.680 Right

00:49:48.880 Now

00:49:49.020 But

00:49:49.180 But

00:49:49.640 Tasha

00:49:50.220 I

00:49:50.440 Guess

00:49:50.600 We'll

00:49:51.300 Start

00:49:51.500 With

00:49:51.700 Thoughts

00:49:52.400 Of

00:49:52.500 The

00:49:52.580 Phone

00:49:52.760 Call

00:49:52.920 Before

00:49:53.140 We

00:49:53.280 Move

00:49:53.420 Ahead

00:49:53.620 To

00:49:53.740 The

00:49:53.860 Future

00:49:54.160 Here

00:49:54.440 But

00:49:54.660 You

00:49:55.060 Know

00:49:55.140 I

00:49:55.300 Suppose

00:49:55.520 It's

00:49:55.780 Good

00:49:56.040 Right

00:49:56.340 That

00:49:56.580 The

00:49:56.900 Two

00:49:57.080 Leaders

00:49:57.340 Are

00:49:57.520 Talking

00:49:57.800 There's

00:49:58.060 Engagement

00:49:58.500 But

00:49:58.740 I

00:49:58.840 Don't

00:49:58.940 Know

00:49:59.040 How

00:49:59.160 Much

00:49:59.300 Canada

00:49:59.560 Is

00:49:59.720 Getting

00:49:59.920 It

00:50:00.080 Yeah

00:50:02.240 I

00:50:02.660 Share

00:50:03.100 Warren's

00:50:03.720 View

00:50:04.000 On

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00:50:11.340 Canadian

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00:50:13.960 Take

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00:50:17.680 Gave

00:50:18.560 A

00:50:18.680 Report

00:50:18.960 Card

00:50:19.220 To

00:50:19.400 The

00:50:19.500 President

00:50:19.840 Here's

00:50:20.200 What

00:50:20.280 We're

00:50:20.400 Doing

00:50:20.700 Here's

00:50:20.960 What

00:50:21.040 We're

00:50:21.140 Thinking

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00:50:21.900 You

00:50:22.060 There

00:50:22.220 Was

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00:50:23.820 Know

00:50:23.920 There

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00:50:24.220 Warmth

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00:50:24.760 Support

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00:50:26.880 Was

00:50:27.160 A

00:50:27.780 Phone

00:50:28.020 Call

00:50:28.260 That

00:50:28.420 Was

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00:50:29.400 Out

00:50:30.040 Of

00:50:30.180 Courtesy

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00:50:32.100 Forma

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00:50:32.600 Had

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00:50:33.140 It

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00:50:33.560 Has

00:50:33.760 To

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00:50:38.000 Tariffs

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00:50:51.020 A

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00:50:59.820 Freedom

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00:51:01.380 Things

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00:51:09.320 Times

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00:51:11.760 People

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00:51:16.440 Now

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00:51:22.580 Freedom

00:51:23.020 As

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00:51:23.400 Concept

00:51:23.860 It's

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00:51:24.780 I'm

00:51:25.820 Not

00:51:25.940 Even

00:51:26.100 Sure

00:51:26.320 What

00:51:26.660 Because

00:51:27.280 I

00:51:28.100 Think

00:51:28.400 That

00:51:28.720 They're

00:51:29.120 Going

00:51:29.220 To

00:51:29.300 Lose

00:51:29.520 By

00:51:29.680 Losing

00:51:29.940 Friends

00:51:30.320 They

00:51:30.480 Will

00:51:30.580 Actually

00:51:30.820 Lose

00:51:31.120 Influence

00:51:31.640 That

00:51:31.920 That's

00:51:32.220 Something

00:51:32.340 They

00:51:32.480 Don't

00:51:32.620 Quite

00:51:32.840 Get

00:51:33.160 You

00:51:34.420 You

00:51:35.020 You

00:51:35.340 Mentioned

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00:51:43.200 Russia

00:51:43.700 Wouldn't

00:51:43.980 Have

00:51:44.100 Started

00:51:44.280 This

00:51:44.500 War

00:51:44.700 If

00:51:44.860 Donald

00:51:45.080 Trump

00:51:45.340 Was

00:51:45.520 In

00:51:45.680 Office

00:51:45.960 Essentially

00:51:46.860 Right

00:51:47.220 So

00:51:47.400 That's

00:51:48.220 The

00:51:48.320 Kind

00:51:48.460 Of

00:51:48.540 Stuff

00:51:48.720 That

00:51:48.880 We're

00:51:49.000 Kind

00:51:49.140 Of

00:51:49.220 Dealing

00:51:49.440 With

00:51:49.640 Here

00:51:49.780 Carl

00:51:50.600 I

00:51:50.860 Guess

00:51:51.180 Good

00:51:51.420 That

00:51:51.580 Engagement

00:51:51.960 Is

00:51:52.200 Continuing

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00:56:27.060 This

00:56:27.320 Idea

00:56:27.680 Of

00:56:27.900 Freedom

00:56:28.180 It

00:56:28.360 Was

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00:56:29.100 To

00:56:29.280 Help

00:56:29.580 Countries

00:56:30.220 Where

00:56:30.880 There

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00:56:31.180 People

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00:56:32.180 To

00:56:32.300 Be

00:56:32.480 Free

00:56:32.780 Levi

00:56:35.560 Strauss

00:56:36.300 American

00:56:36.780 Company

00:56:37.260 Even

00:56:37.700 Air

00:56:38.020 Lifted

00:56:38.560 Jeans

00:56:39.160 Into

00:56:39.560 The

00:56:39.760 GDR

00:56:40.460 During

00:56:42.200 The

00:56:42.540 Cold

00:56:42.800 War

00:56:43.160 In

00:56:44.120 Attempt

00:56:44.540 To

00:56:44.720 Export

00:56:45.240 Images

00:56:45.740 Like

00:56:46.060 Basically

00:56:46.380 A

00:56:46.580 Symbol

00:56:46.840 Of

00:56:47.000 American

00:56:47.380 Culture

00:56:48.020 That

00:56:48.680 Inspired

00:56:49.440 Freedom

00:56:49.880 Among

00:56:50.120 People

00:56:50.520 Who

00:56:50.760 Wanted

00:56:51.160 To

00:56:51.280 Be

00:56:51.440 Free

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00:56:52.160 That

00:56:52.440 Society

00:56:53.060 What's

00:56:54.200 Happening

00:56:54.600 Now

00:56:55.080 Is

00:56:55.340 That

00:56:55.480 The

00:56:55.620 U.S.

00:56:55.900 Is

00:56:56.000 Abandoning

00:56:57.080 All

00:56:57.560 Those

00:56:57.760 People

00:56:58.060 People

00:56:58.340 In

00:56:58.540 Ukraine

00:56:58.980 Who

00:56:59.200 Want

00:56:59.420 To

00:56:59.520 Be

00:56:59.660 Free

00:56:59.940 People

00:57:00.560 In

00:57:00.940 Countries

00:57:01.600 In

00:57:01.760 Africa

00:57:02.260 Too

00:57:02.660 Because

00:57:03.060 It's

00:57:03.300 Not

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00:57:03.700 About

00:57:03.980 Trade

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00:57:04.480 About

00:57:04.740 Security

00:57:05.220 Who

00:57:05.500 Want

00:57:05.820 To

00:57:06.280 Be

00:57:06.460 Free

00:57:06.700 Of

00:57:06.880 Dictators

00:57:07.440 Who

00:57:07.680 Want

00:57:07.960 To

00:57:08.100 Install

00:57:08.520 Democracy

00:57:09.140 All

00:57:09.700 Those

00:57:09.880 Institutions

00:57:10.640 They

00:57:10.840 Created

00:57:11.420 To

00:57:11.940 Create

00:57:12.580 Democracy

00:57:13.400 And

00:57:13.640 This

00:57:13.780 Idea

00:57:14.240 Abroad

00:57:14.780 Have

00:57:15.460 Been

00:57:15.660 Defunded

00:57:16.400 Because

00:57:16.560 USA

00:57:16.960 Is

00:57:17.620 Gutted

00:57:18.160 So

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00:57:19.560 One

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00:57:20.100 Up

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00:57:20.640 Going

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00:57:21.640 Better

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00:57:23.360 For

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00:57:23.880 As

00:57:24.740 A

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00:57:25.280 All

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00:57:30.940 Russia

00:57:31.160 Or

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00:57:31.840 Or

00:57:32.220 Just

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00:57:34.480 Way

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00:57:35.900 You

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00:57:40.640 You

00:57:40.720 If

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00:57:40.920 Give

00:57:41.160 Us

00:57:41.320 Something

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00:57:43.220 So

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00:57:45.140 A

00:57:45.260 Very

00:57:45.540 Dark

00:57:46.920 Place

00:57:47.500 That

00:57:47.680 We're

00:57:47.840 Potentially

00:57:48.520 Headed

00:57:49.000 To

00:57:49.180 I

00:57:49.300 Don't

00:57:49.360 Be

00:57:49.440 Alarmist

00:57:49.960 Here

00:57:50.160 But

00:57:50.380 We

00:57:51.340 Have

00:57:51.540 To

00:57:51.660 Rethink

00:57:52.120 Our

00:57:52.320 Relations

00:57:52.780 And

00:57:53.180 Yeah

00:57:53.560 Europe

00:57:53.880 Is

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00:57:54.540 Canada

00:57:54.960 Australia

00:57:56.220 You

00:57:57.100 Know

00:57:57.300 AUKUS

00:57:57.920 Where

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00:57:58.680 Basically

00:57:59.260 Well

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00:58:03.680 Countries

00:58:04.680 That

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00:58:05.400 To

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00:58:06.160 Model

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00:58:08.040 To

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00:58:08.420 Us

00:58:08.620 Up

00:58:08.760 There's

00:58:08.940 No

00:58:09.060 Superpower

00:58:09.700 Backing

00:58:10.140 Us

00:58:10.320 Up

00:58:10.540 And

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00:58:13.180 To

00:58:13.380 The

00:58:13.500 Question

00:58:13.720 Is

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00:58:15.260 Idea

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00:58:16.380 Of

00:58:16.560 How

00:58:16.840 The

00:58:17.100 Global

00:58:17.520 World

00:58:17.840 Order

00:58:18.080 Has

00:58:18.300 Work

00:58:18.600 Post

00:58:19.000 World

00:58:19.200 War

00:58:19.320 II

00:58:19.540 Does

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00:58:20.340 Feel

00:58:20.540 Like

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00:58:22.260 Now

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00:58:23.240 The

00:58:23.380 Point

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00:58:23.820 Going

00:58:23.920 To

00:58:23.960 Be

00:58:24.060 Gone

00:58:24.340 Well

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00:58:25.620 Look

00:58:25.800 At

00:58:25.940 This

00:58:26.160 Week

00:58:26.460 This

00:58:27.660 Week

00:58:28.080 Started

00:58:29.300 With

00:58:29.860 Donald

00:58:30.380 Trump

00:58:30.760 Calling

00:58:31.560 Vladimir

00:58:32.040 Zelensky

00:58:33.160 A

00:58:34.360 Dictator

00:58:34.900 Then

00:58:36.360 They

00:58:36.560 Announced

00:58:37.060 That

00:58:37.360 They

00:58:37.500 Were

00:58:37.640 Going

00:58:37.880 To

00:58:38.080 Lift

00:58:38.280 Sanctions

00:58:38.900 On

00:58:39.200 Russia

00:58:39.560 Then

00:58:40.700 They

00:58:40.880 Said

00:58:41.140 They

00:58:41.300 Were

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00:58:41.580 To

00:58:41.700 Have

00:58:41.900 A

00:58:42.080 Summit

00:58:42.400 With

00:58:43.160 Putin

00:58:43.580 Then

00:58:44.820 They

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00:58:45.260 Blaming

00:58:45.880 Ukraine

00:58:46.720 For

00:58:47.120 Starting

00:58:47.580 The

00:58:47.820 War

00:58:48.120 And

00:58:49.380 Just

00:58:49.560 A few

00:58:49.820 Days

00:58:50.080 Before

00:58:50.380 All

00:58:50.900 That

00:58:51.060 They

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00:58:51.660 A

00:58:51.840 Woman

00:58:52.060 To

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00:58:52.640 National

00:58:53.620 Intelligence

00:58:54.200 Agency

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00:58:55.660 United

00:58:55.860 States

00:58:56.180 Of

00:58:56.340 America

00:58:56.800 Who

00:58:57.140 Everybody

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00:58:58.120 A

00:58:58.240 Russian

00:58:58.540 Asset

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00:59:07.360 Month

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00:59:07.900 United

00:59:08.180 States

00:59:08.700 The

00:59:09.060 Trump

00:59:09.320 Administration

00:59:09.860 Has

00:59:10.320 Destroyed

00:59:11.000 A

00:59:11.680 Western

00:59:12.160 Alliance

00:59:12.740 A

00:59:13.020 World

00:59:13.280 Order

00:59:13.560 That

00:59:13.760 Has

00:59:13.900 Taken

00:59:14.200 80

00:59:14.520 Years

00:59:14.840 To

00:59:15.020 Build

00:59:15.220 Up

00:59:15.520 So

00:59:16.100 I

00:59:16.220 Much

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00:59:17.640 My

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00:59:21.720 NATO

00:59:22.140 Is

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00:59:24.020 Alliance

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00:59:25.120 And

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00:59:26.240 States

00:59:26.620 Is

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00:59:27.500 By

00:59:27.780 The

00:59:27.980 Day

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00:59:28.980 Towards

00:59:29.520 A

00:59:29.680 Position

00:59:30.060 Where

00:59:30.340 We

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00:59:31.180 Regard

00:59:31.600 Them

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00:59:32.120 Just

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00:59:32.400 Terms

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00:59:32.780 Trade

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00:59:33.920 An

00:59:34.060 Enemy

00:59:34.380 So

00:59:35.940 We

00:59:36.960 Need

00:59:37.720 To

00:59:38.140 Deal

00:59:39.780 With

00:59:40.160 This

00:59:40.560 New

00:59:40.820 Reality

00:59:41.440 That

00:59:41.800 Is

00:59:41.980 Present

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00:59:43.920 Happened

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00:59:45.880 You

00:59:47.120 Know

00:59:47.240 I

00:59:47.480 Think

00:59:47.720 We've

00:59:48.180 Got

00:59:48.360 Some

00:59:48.560 Challenges

00:59:49.100 Obviously

00:59:49.720 Vis

00:59:50.160 A

00:59:50.260 Our

00:59:50.820 Geography

00:59:51.380 We're

00:59:51.840 Sitting

00:59:52.060 Right

00:59:52.280 On

00:59:52.420 Top

00:59:52.680 Of

00:59:52.800 The

00:59:52.900 United

00:59:53.140 States

00:59:53.620 And

00:59:54.640 We

00:59:54.820 Don't

00:59:55.040 Have

00:59:55.300 The

00:59:55.500 Power

00:59:55.800 Economically

00:59:56.700 Or

00:59:56.900 Militarily

00:59:57.540 Of

00:59:58.160 The

00:59:58.280 United

00:59:58.580 States

00:59:59.120 But

00:59:59.900 We're

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01:00:01.740 Into

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01:00:08.380 Up

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01:00:13.140 That

01:00:13.280 Conversation

01:00:13.800 Coming

01:00:20.820 Election

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01:00:24.920 Liberal

01:00:25.160 Leadership

01:00:25.520 Race

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01:00:26.800 Ruby

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01:00:29.240 Is

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01:00:30.160 Leadership

01:00:30.460 Campaign

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01:00:31.640 Into

01:00:31.840 Debates

01:00:32.220 This

01:00:32.420 Week

01:00:32.640 Karina

01:00:33.340 Gould

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01:00:34.400 Last

01:00:34.640 Night

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01:00:37.680 Win

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01:00:39.700 Leadership

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01:00:51.600 Dahlia

01:00:52.040 A lot

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01:00:52.920 Conservatives

01:00:53.420 Too

01:00:53.640 Warren

01:00:53.880 I

01:00:54.000 Don't

01:00:54.080 Know

01:00:54.180 If

01:00:54.280 You've

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01:00:54.640 This

01:00:54.800 Online

01:00:55.220 Yeah

01:00:57.440 They're

01:00:57.760 Awfully

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01:00:58.640 They're

01:00:59.420 Really

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01:01:04.560 Mirror

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01:01:11.360 French

01:01:11.780 And

01:01:11.940 The

01:01:12.200 English

01:01:12.740 Debates

01:01:13.980 Are

01:01:14.140 Taking

01:01:14.440 Place

01:01:14.980 With

01:01:15.360 The

01:01:15.500 Remaining

01:01:15.980 Leadership

01:01:16.500 Candidates

01:01:20.820 Frank

01:01:22.300 Bayless

01:01:22.860 You

01:01:23.240 Know

01:01:23.400 Nice

01:01:23.780 Guy

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01:01:24.920 Gould

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01:01:28.760 A

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01:01:30.360 Carney

01:01:30.700 In

01:01:31.320 Both

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01:01:32.080 And

01:01:32.300 English

01:01:32.720 The

01:01:33.640 You

01:01:34.060 Know

01:01:34.180 Pierre

01:01:34.580 Polyev

01:01:35.160 Whether

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01:01:35.560 Like

01:01:35.840 Him

01:01:35.960 Or

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01:01:36.580 A

01:01:37.060 Lot

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01:01:37.820 Are

01:01:38.040 Increasingly

01:01:38.700 Indicating

01:01:39.120 That

01:01:39.340 They

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01:01:40.020 Him

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01:01:41.600 We

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01:01:42.740 How

01:01:43.020 He

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01:01:43.980 Like

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01:01:44.560 An

01:01:44.700 Excellent

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01:01:46.460 The

01:01:46.600 Cut

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01:01:47.040 Thrust

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01:01:47.680 Politics

01:01:48.160 And

01:01:49.460 Carney

01:01:50.300 Needs

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01:01:50.900 Show

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01:01:52.600 To

01:01:52.760 How

01:01:52.940 To

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01:01:53.720 That

01:01:53.920 Level

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01:01:54.880 We

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01:01:55.240 Got

01:01:55.460 Zero

01:01:56.160 Indication

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01:08:40.060 Carl

01:08:40.480 Warren

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01:09:38.080 Oh, Frank Colton was a friend of mine

01:09:40.820 Friend of mine, friend of mine

01:09:43.700 Oh, Frank Colton was a friend of mine

01:09:46.360 And he died with his gold in his head

01:09:49.260 Put it in the paper and it made me sad

01:09:52.320 Made me sad, made me sad

01:09:55.200 Put it in the paper and it made me sad

01:09:57.920 Cause it probably shot him in the head

01:10:00.920 He won, I won

01:10:04.680 I won, I won, I won

01:10:09.680 He had a secret

01:10:15.020 I don't know, say he obeyed

01:10:18.680 And so a master he became

01:10:34.680 Everybody talks about the man from ours

01:10:38.580 Man from ours, man from ours

01:10:41.480 Everybody talks about the man from ours

01:10:44.180 And the way it looks like

01:10:45.640 $50,000 at an early grade

01:10:49.940 Early grade, early grade

01:10:52.880 $50,000 at an early grade

01:10:55.560 $27,000 will they shine and dance

01:10:58.020 He won, I won

01:11:02.680 From ours were over to me

01:11:07.680 He had a secret

01:11:12.520 Had a lesson he obeyed

01:11:15.680 And so a master he became

01:11:19.680 He was a friend of mine

01:11:32.680 He was a friend of mine

01:11:34.680 Forrest Ray Coulson was a friend of mine

01:11:46.680 Friend of mine, friend of mine

01:11:49.680 Forrest Ray Coulson was a friend of mine

01:11:51.680 And he died with his gold in his head

01:11:54.680 $50,000 at an early grade

01:11:56.680 $50,000 at an early grade

01:11:57.680 Early grade, early grade

01:11:59.680 $50,000 at an early grade

01:12:02.680 $50,000 at an early grade

01:12:03.680 $20,000 when they shot him dead

01:12:06.680 He went out west

01:12:10.680 From ours were over to me

01:12:15.680 He had a secret

01:12:19.680 Had a lesson he obeyed

01:12:23.680 And so a master he became

01:12:27.680 I'm joined now by Warren Kinsella

01:12:37.680 A good friend and former special advisor

01:12:39.680 To Jean Chrétien, the CEO of The Daisy Group

01:12:42.680 Warren, welcome back to The Ben Mulroney Show

01:12:44.680 Thanks, my friend

01:12:45.680 So we've got a lot to talk about

01:12:47.680 And I think one of the most interesting stories

01:12:49.680 Of the week that I don't think anybody saw coming

01:12:51.680 Was Justin Trudeau's announcement

01:12:53.680 Of a high-speed rail corridor

01:12:55.680 Between Quebec City and Toronto

01:12:57.680 Something that people from all walks of life

01:12:59.680 And all political persuasions

01:13:00.680 Have been hoping for

01:13:02.680 I just think it was really odd

01:13:03.680 That it came from a caretaker prime minister

01:13:05.680 And like, forgive me for being cynical

01:13:09.680 But I am cynical

01:13:10.680 Like Ben, as you and I know

01:13:12.680 This has been promised

01:13:14.680 By governments in Canada

01:13:16.680 Going back to the early 1960s

01:13:20.680 And we still don't have it

01:13:22.680 So like, color me not impressed

01:13:24.680 Like, it just

01:13:25.680 It's like, seriously?

01:13:26.680 This guy's departing in just a matter of days?

01:13:29.680 And he makes an announcement of this magnitude?

01:13:31.680 It just didn't feel serious

01:13:33.680 No, it didn't feel serious

01:13:34.680 I'm wondering where the

01:13:35.680 Like, we're in a prorogued situation

01:13:37.680 His minister of transport

01:13:38.680 Was sitting next to us

01:13:39.680 She's not running again

01:13:40.680 He's out the door

01:13:41.680 I'm wondering where the money's coming from

01:13:43.680 I don't know where the

01:13:44.680 Where the political will comes from

01:13:46.680 So let's explore two cynical scenarios

01:13:48.680 One of them is that he's worried about his legacy

01:13:52.680 I mean, look, when my dad resigned

01:13:55.680 As unpopular as he was at the time

01:13:57.680 There wasn't a single candidate

01:13:58.680 Lining up to replace him

01:13:59.680 That was suggesting jettisoning

01:14:01.680 His major policy initiatives

01:14:03.680 That is not the case with this outgoing prime minister

01:14:06.680 This is a guy whose signature policy initiative

01:14:10.680 It was the carbon tax

01:14:12.680 And his

01:14:13.680 The people who supported it

01:14:14.680 Are willing to jettison it immediately

01:14:16.680 So, besides that

01:14:17.680 What does he

01:14:18.680 He's got legalizing marijuana?

01:14:21.680 I think he's got

01:14:22.680 I think he's got a couple of things

01:14:24.680 The political one

01:14:25.680 Is taking a party that was in third place

01:14:28.680 In a distant corner of the House of Commons

01:14:30.680 And propelling it into a majority government

01:14:33.680 That, in fairness to him

01:14:34.680 That's never happened before

01:14:35.680 Yeah

01:14:36.680 Having, cutting in half

01:14:38.680 Child poverty in Canada

01:14:40.680 With the Canada Child Benefit

01:14:43.680 That's good

01:14:44.680 You know, we probably did better

01:14:47.680 Than the other countries during COVID

01:14:49.680 So, he's got some things to point to

01:14:52.680 Which is the point where, you know

01:14:54.680 I think you and I and other people said to him

01:14:56.680 Well, for the love of God, go

01:14:58.680 You don't have anything else to prove

01:15:00.680 And that's what, you know

01:15:01.680 Made this high-speed rail announcement yesterday

01:15:04.680 So bizarre

01:15:05.680 It's like, why are you doing this?

01:15:07.680 Like, you literally are going to be a private citizen

01:15:09.680 In just a matter of days

01:15:11.680 Like, and you've got a minister of transport

01:15:14.680 Who's announced she's not running again

01:15:16.680 Like, it just doesn't make any sense

01:15:18.680 You know, like

01:15:19.680 Have one of the liberal leadership candidates around

01:15:22.680 Yeah

01:15:23.680 We know they're going to be there

01:15:24.680 So it just, it just didn't feel credible

01:15:26.680 It actually felt quite cynical

01:15:28.680 Well, okay, here's cynical scenario number two

01:15:30.680 If you look at polls across the country

01:15:32.680 The Tories are still in the lead in every region

01:15:37.680 With the exception of Quebec

01:15:39.680 Where it's a two-horse race between the liberals

01:15:41.680 And the Bloc Québécois

01:15:43.680 Something like this could shore up support in Quebec

01:15:47.680 Where a lot of jobs would be created

01:15:50.680 And the proof to me that validates that theory

01:15:54.680 Is the Bloc Québécois rushed to endorse this idea as well

01:15:57.680 Yeah, and I, you know, it's for sure

01:16:00.680 And it's been talked about in everywhere

01:16:02.680 From Calgary to Edmonton

01:16:04.680 Vancouver to Calgary

01:16:05.680 You know, high-speed rail has been a fantasy

01:16:07.680 Of successive governments of all political stripes

01:16:10.680 As you've pointed out

01:16:11.680 So, you know, maybe it does something for you

01:16:14.680 In a tight race

01:16:15.680 And the tight race is now what we've got

01:16:17.680 Now that Polyev has lost that 30-point lead

01:16:19.680 He had at the start of the year

01:16:21.680 So, you know, they're going to throw everything at the wall

01:16:24.680 To see what sticks

01:16:25.680 And, you know, the Tories are going to do the same thing

01:16:28.680 But at the end of the day

01:16:29.680 The ballot question to me is not high-speed rail

01:16:32.680 It's Donald Trump

01:16:33.680 And, you know, where people stand on Donald Trump and tariffs

01:16:36.680 And what they're going to do about it

01:16:37.680 Well, I want to play some audio for you

01:16:39.680 Of our Prime Minister getting quite emotional

01:16:41.680 And I think sincerely emotional

01:16:43.680 At one of what he's calling his last speeches

01:16:45.680 And this was to the Haida Nation

01:16:47.680 I was one of my first trips as Liberal leader

01:16:51.680 And I can't think of any place more appropriate

01:16:54.680 For one of my very last

01:16:56.680 Sorry

01:16:58.680 You guys

01:17:00.680 This

01:17:01.680 Not just because this place is an incredibly

01:17:04.680 Breathtakingly beautiful place

01:17:07.680 Not only because of the incredible hospitality

01:17:09.680 Of the Haida Nation

01:17:11.680 Not even because this place is so important to me and my family

01:17:15.680 And look, I don't want to go down the path of saying

01:17:18.680 I'm tired of hearing his voice

01:17:19.680 And I'm tired of hearing the emotion

01:17:21.680 That's not the point of this

01:17:23.680 I think that the emotion was genuine

01:17:25.680 And it reminded me of the last days of my dad

01:17:29.680 And then the ensuing chapter out of politics

01:17:33.680 Where we as a family noticed that there is

01:17:36.680 An identity crisis that happens in a former Prime Minister

01:17:40.680 Where you quite literally go from the nexus of everything

01:17:43.680 The center of everything

01:17:44.680 To outside of all of it overnight

01:17:47.680 The country is concerned about themselves

01:17:50.680 They're not concerned about you

01:17:51.680 And your party has moved on to other things

01:17:53.680 And so there is a tough shift

01:17:56.680 For any former leader who is so central

01:17:58.680 To all of a sudden go from the middle

01:18:00.680 To going to the outside

01:18:02.680 Yeah, and you know

01:18:04.680 I saw that with my guy with Christian

01:18:06.680 And, you know, the interesting thing that's happened

01:18:09.680 Is we've got a former Prime Minister's Club

01:18:12.680 A bit happening in the form of Stephen Harper

01:18:14.680 And John Cretchen

01:18:15.680 They've actually become quite close

01:18:17.680 Yeah

01:18:18.680 And, you know, communicate quite often

01:18:20.680 And your dad was part of that kind of circle too

01:18:24.680 Because you become a citizen unlike other citizens

01:18:27.680 And people think you have a lot of power

01:18:29.680 But you don't

01:18:30.680 Yeah

01:18:31.680 You're just a regular citizen like everybody else

01:18:34.680 And you have to be very, very careful

01:18:36.680 About what you say about the politics of the moment

01:18:39.680 That's what has been so extraordinary

01:18:41.680 About Harper and Cretchen, Clark and Campbell

01:18:44.680 All coming out

01:18:45.680 And I know your dad would have too

01:18:46.680 If he'd been here with us

01:18:48.680 Speaking out against what Trump is doing

01:18:51.680 But that's an unprecedented event

01:18:53.680 Yeah

01:18:54.680 It's a historic event

01:18:55.680 So just in making the transition to that

01:18:57.680 It is tough

01:18:58.680 Yeah

01:18:59.680 And, you know, so I'm not going to make fun of him

01:19:01.680 For being emotional

01:19:02.680 I know he's genuine about indigenous issues

01:19:05.680 But, you know, as a dad to an indigenous girl

01:19:08.680 I share my daughter's cynicism

01:19:10.680 I don't think he's actually done much

01:19:12.680 And Jody Wilson-Raybould would agree

01:19:14.680 Lastly, and we only have a little bit of time left

01:19:16.680 But I want to get your take on the state of play

01:19:19.680 Of the liberal leadership campaign

01:19:22.680 Because we're hearing that there are questions

01:19:24.680 Surrounding Ruby Dalla's leadership right now

01:19:26.680 And, you know, we saw Chandra Aria being sent the way

01:19:29.680 Of the Dodo bird

01:19:30.680 We are promised a national and robust campaign

01:19:33.680 It looks like it's a full-throated coronation

01:19:36.680 Of Mark Carney at this point

01:19:38.680 So I wondered what you made of the questions

01:19:40.680 Surrounding Ruby Dalla at this point

01:19:42.680 Well, it's a Bob Fife story in the Globe and Mail

01:19:45.680 So we always, you've got to take those seriously

01:19:47.680 Those are real stories

01:19:49.680 Bob Fife is, you know, when you hear he's holding

01:19:52.680 And waiting to talk to you

01:19:53.680 That should make your blood run cold

01:19:55.680 So my suspicion is that the difficulties for Ms. Dalla

01:19:59.680 Are about to just starting

01:20:01.680 And, you know, the allegation here

01:20:03.680 The Liberal Party was warned about this

01:20:05.680 You guys need to change your membership rules

01:20:08.680 To avoid foreign interference

01:20:10.680 Precisely during nomination campaigns

01:20:13.680 And leadership campaigns

01:20:14.680 And they didn't do it

01:20:15.680 You know, we've all heard about Yaha Sinwar

01:20:18.680 Signing up from India to be a, you know

01:20:20.680 Participant in the leadership race

01:20:22.680 So now we're seeing what happens

01:20:25.680 So, you know, she's a marginal candidate

01:20:28.680 She was never going to be a serious candidate

01:20:30.680 But this is a mark on the Liberal Party's reputation

01:20:33.680 Not just hers

01:20:34.680 And look, I'm not somebody who feels

01:20:36.680 That we should be focused on race or ethnicity

01:20:39.680 Or cultural community

01:20:40.680 But the fact is, in this race

01:20:42.680 There were two people of colour

01:20:44.680 And both of them, one is out

01:20:45.680 And the other is under a cloud of suspicion

01:20:48.680 And the two front-runners are

01:20:50.680 People who look like you and me

01:20:52.680 And it's for a party that

01:20:53.680 That puts that in the window so often

01:20:56.680 It seems

01:20:57.680 I'm trying to reconcile those two things

01:21:00.680 Well, how about this here?

01:21:02.680 Because you're bang on

01:21:03.680 This is the Liberal Party

01:21:04.680 That lectures everybody about feminism all the time

01:21:06.680 Particularly this Prime Minister

01:21:08.680 And once again

01:21:09.680 They are the only political party

01:21:11.680 That's going to have a leader

01:21:12.680 Because we all know it's going to be Kearney

01:21:14.680 Who's not a woman

01:21:15.680 Yeah

01:21:16.680 Right?

01:21:17.680 Every other party has had a woman as leader

01:21:18.680 Yeah

01:21:19.680 And, you know, so the Liberal Party

01:21:21.680 Again, it's just

01:21:22.680 They're not, you know, on the walk and the talk

01:21:23.680 Yeah

01:21:24.680 And it, you know, people notice

01:21:25.680 So I think it

01:21:26.680 Like I say, it's going to be a very competitive race

01:21:28.680 And I think it's coming pretty soon

01:21:29.680 Warren, thank you so much

01:21:30.680 I hope you enjoy the hockey game tonight

01:21:32.680 Thanks, brother

01:21:33.680 It's happening in Tokyo

01:21:44.680 It's happening in France

01:21:46.680 Sometimes in their underwear

01:21:48.680 They only want to dance

01:21:50.680 They're getting bored in Singapore

01:21:52.680 They're causing quite a fright

01:21:54.680 When the kids go, go, go crazy tonight

01:21:56.680 Then they're a great player

01:21:57.680 I wish those whorados it

01:21:58.540 When they go, go, go crazy tonight

01:22:06.680 It doesn't matter

01:22:25.460 Yeah!

01:22:55.460 It's not inside.

01:22:56.120 When the kids go, go, go, crazy tonight.

01:23:00.760 They're acting so normal, yeah?

01:23:03.220 Yeah it's not inside

01:23:04.300 When the kids go, go, go, crazy tonight.

01:23:08.880 When the kids go, go, go, crazy tonight.

01:23:12.660 When the kids go, go, go crazy

01:23:14.640 Kids go, go, go crazy

01:23:16.480 Kids go, go, go crazy tonight.

01:23:25.460 you uh warren kinsella uh is the former chief advisor to warren kretchen uh warren kretchen

01:23:38.540 uh jean kretchen you know it's possible uh if john had one more uh son warren was that close

01:23:44.460 to him he would have named him after him but here he is warren kinsella former special advisor to

01:23:48.420 jean kretchen ceo of the daisy group now your voice sounds familiar i can swear we spoke last

01:23:53.040 night yeah i think you sound familiar too and i and i like the idea of kretchen having a son named

01:24:00.080 warren kretchen jr but but then you know you just never know with with sons and offspring of

01:24:06.460 presidents and prime ministers there's it could be another hunter biden scenario it could be a roger

01:24:11.620 clinton scenario like you just don't billy carter warren you just don't know where it's gonna go

01:24:16.560 that's pulling something way out of the mid-70s but anyway what were your uh observations of

01:24:23.020 last night and you've had the night to reflect on it um any good good shots fired any any growth

01:24:29.600 whatsoever from some of the challengers versus the champion here well i'm afraid i didn't reflect

01:24:35.120 on it much i think i forgot it happened about two minutes after it ended it was that uneventful

01:24:41.140 um you know when you're the incumbent like ford you just want to get your main messages out and keep

01:24:47.180 you're cool he did that um bonnie crombie really needed a knockout punch as they call it the cliche

01:24:53.740 and she didn't get that um at all in fact for a good part of the debate at least at the start

01:25:00.580 he was reading lines from her binder and you know they may have been good lines it may have been bad

01:25:07.760 lines but it was a bad look for tv because it looked made her look like she was unprepared

01:25:12.660 america styles was was fine and you know did what she had to do but she's still probably going back

01:25:20.780 to third place i don't think she's going to be a leader of the opposition you know when this thing

01:25:25.280 is all over in nine days and mike schreiner was happy just because you know somebody paid attention

01:25:30.380 to him for a couple hours so uh that's something that doesn't happen very often to green green party

01:25:35.800 leaders yeah give me that sense on styles because i have heard that um and i i think the ndp you and

01:25:43.100 i've talked about this so many times this is um an unrecognizable party if you were an ndp supporter

01:25:49.200 and and you voted for bob ray provincially or you voted for ed broadband a bunch of times it was a party

01:25:54.820 of labor it was the part of the working class it was the part of having your back and the elitists

01:26:00.240 both in the states and here were were the conservatives and republicans everything has

01:26:05.760 the table has flipped right over it will this be a wrestling match to take the ndp potentially in a

01:26:11.940 more progressive more radical direction because styles i think wanted to mainstream this a little

01:26:18.320 bit and my my opinion is war on october 7th came along and all hell broke loose and inside the federal

01:26:23.640 and provincial ranks yeah and a lot of the ndp federally and provincially as you point out

01:26:29.980 became a lot more preoccupied with gaza than guelph and um i don't think that's work for them

01:26:38.580 they seem to have lost the mission statement you know the good old days of event broadbent and

01:26:44.340 and uh leaders like that uh really seem to have gone by the the wayside she she's fine she's okay i mean

01:26:53.660 she's good tv i thought she was engaging tv she'd you know address the camera she'd use

01:26:59.860 her hands she'd use emphasis you know she wasn't looking down at her notes but it's just like what

01:27:06.140 do you guys stand for anymore what do you believe you know what makes you get out of bed in the

01:27:10.700 morning and we don't know the answer about that with the ndp and i think with the exception of bc

01:27:16.040 um that that's really reflected in the election results that they're getting i think you you hit

01:27:21.520 that right on the nose is that she's a phenomenal communicator uh but i i liken it to somebody getting

01:27:27.260 on a school bus uh the first day of a of a school year and and you know thinking uh you know i'll i'll

01:27:33.560 have be able to assert authority i'll be able to keep a presence and you look back and you've got

01:27:37.660 40 of the of the most notable like troublemaking malcontents you could imagine on that bus and

01:27:43.520 you're like this is going to be a chaotic year i don't know what kind of leader could put uh an ndp

01:27:49.040 caucus and some of the labor you know we get into the fred hans from qp and whatnot i have no idea

01:27:55.040 uh who could sort this out but there's going to be a big existential battle coming i think for the

01:27:59.780 soul of this party well there you know it is possible to be a mature social democratic party

01:28:06.140 and bc has shown them how to do it you know saskatchewan has shown them how to do it because

01:28:11.740 there's more votes in the center and you know you go in there and you steal votes from the the

01:28:16.940 liberals at least at the provincial level you know federally of course the reverse is true

01:28:21.120 trudeau stole votes and stole support from singh quite literally but they're not doing that and

01:28:27.960 you know they're gravitating towards these marginal issues and it's like guys you know you're an

01:28:33.380 opposition party in a sub-national government in canada you're not going to solve gaza right you

01:28:39.920 know gaza can't solve gaza so what are you doing you know what do you believe in and it but anyway she

01:28:46.040 did her best in the debate and it was fine but i still think she's going to lose uh you know

01:28:52.140 opposition leader status if you could advise uh crombie style schriner and you could get all of

01:28:59.100 them in a room for 20 minutes last night what are the pressure points you'd say hit them harder on

01:29:03.920 these things that they simply didn't do the thing well you're a broadcaster and you know viewers and

01:29:10.700 listeners don't like overtalk they don't like shouting they don't like you know lots of conflict

01:29:16.000 political people think they like that they don't that's when they start to turn off the tv or turn

01:29:21.920 off the radio and there was a ton of that and i i don't know if that was the format or what but it

01:29:28.280 really didn't work because there were extended periods where you couldn't make out who was talking

01:29:32.960 and ford would just sit there with a serene smile on his face and let them do it and it knew he knew

01:29:40.420 and because he'd been told and he he knows he's a veteran political you know participant he knows

01:29:47.640 that letting them scrap and shout at each other and try to get at him makes them look bad it makes

01:29:53.560 him look good is i got 45 seconds is trump literally the unicorn that that that contravenes your theory i

01:30:00.620 agree with your theory and the concept is he the one guy in in all that you've seen that people are

01:30:06.960 like yes love the insults love the interrupting love the talking love the eye rolling love the

01:30:12.040 rate like is he the only one that seems to have been able to get away with it and make it work

01:30:15.440 politically he's made it work for him politically because he is the you know he is the social media

01:30:21.660 internet troll president and uh but you know you and i both pay attention to u.s politics since he's

01:30:28.440 taken power in the past three weeks he's been losing support by the handful because what he's doing

01:30:34.540 now is what is not what he said he would do and like that is the big test of politicians these days

01:30:39.860 is you know being a straight shooter and talking plainly and for and you know uh trump does that

01:30:46.420 but also doing what you said you're going to do and you know he he's not doing that he's turning

01:30:52.720 everything to chaos so i thought he would play much more of a role in the debate last night and

01:30:57.640 actually he didn't his name really didn't come up that much but i still think board's going to cruise

01:31:02.480 to another majority thanks to donald trump seems that's uh that is so warren thanks very much for

01:31:07.860 the insight and always appreciate you getting up early thanks my friend

01:31:32.480 i'm here to acknowledge me with a feeling or a simple smile

01:31:44.480 please think i watched it for granted now the world away with me they can make it all worthwhile

01:31:55.480 i hope you listen to what i have to say

01:32:02.480 so far away

01:32:07.480 so far away

01:32:14.480 hey hey hey hey hey hey

01:32:17.480 now everything turns into a game

01:32:20.480 so far away

01:32:22.480 hey hey hey hey hey

01:32:24.480 even though you're running next to me

01:32:26.480 i keep hoping that you let me in

01:32:33.480 got this sick feeling in my gut that feeling during for weeks the things you have and have not said

01:32:39.480 please don't turn away something i find important to me should i roll over and play dead

01:32:46.480 hope you listen to what i have to say

01:33:01.480 i hold over and play dead

01:33:06.480 hope you listen to what i have to say

01:33:15.480 so far away

01:33:21.480 Now everything turns into one again

01:33:25.980 So far away

01:33:28.980 Hey, hey, hey

01:33:32.480 Even though you are here next to me

01:33:37.980 I keep hoping that you let me in

01:33:51.480 Hey, hey, hey

01:34:17.480 So far away

01:34:21.480 Hey, hey, hey

01:34:23.480 Now everything turns into one again

01:34:28.480 So far away

01:34:31.480 Hey, hey, hey

01:34:35.480 Even though you are here next to me

01:34:38.480 I keep hoping that you let me in

01:34:45.480 You're so far away

01:34:51.480 You're so far away

01:34:57.480 So far away

01:35:01.480 So far away

01:35:07.480 Hey, hey, hey

01:35:13.480 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

01:35:17.480 Hey, hey, hey

01:35:18.480 You're so far away

01:35:19.480 Hey, hey, hey

01:35:27.480 You're so far away

01:35:29.480 Yeah, hey, hey

01:35:30.480 I'm not sure

01:35:31.480 You're so far away

01:35:32.480 You're so far away

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kinsellacast - February 23, 2025

KINSELLACAST 350： The Son of Hamas - plus Lilley, Kheiriddin, Mulroney, Belanger, Brady, and Outtacontroller, Kepi Ghoulie, American Steel, Methadones, Hex Dispenser, The Creeps

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