kinsellacast - June 14, 2025


KINSELLACAST 366： Fathers here, fathers gone. Plus Mraz, Mulroney and more. And the right songs.


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On this episode of The KinsellaCast, Warren talks about Father's Day and the impact it has had on his life and the lives of others. He also talks about the recent strike by Israel on Iran, and the lessons he learned from it.

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00:00:00.000 It's the KinsellaCast, starring Warren Kinsella.
00:00:21.500 Hey, it's Warren. Welcome to the KinsellaCast.
00:00:25.240 And so, Father's Day. Generally, I hate Father's Day.
00:00:32.840 I've long suspected it was a concoction of the greeting card industry.
00:00:38.560 And for me, at least, for 21 years, it's been one of the worst days.
00:00:43.940 21 years ago, my dad, Thomas Douglas Kinsella, died.
00:00:49.680 It was this beautiful June day in Kingston, Ontario, at the hospital where he had saved and improved so many lives for so many years.
00:01:00.200 And when I stepped into the tiny room where he had died, I remember wondering why the little sailboats bouncing on the waves on Lake Ontario didn't stop moving to show that they were in mourning.
00:01:12.740 And I wanted great writers like Andrew Coyne or Paul Wells to write about my father.
00:01:20.280 So that was Father's Day.
00:01:23.060 My father died on Father's Day.
00:01:25.660 He died just before my parents' 50th wedding anniversary, too.
00:01:30.380 So that made it even more sad.
00:01:32.880 That made it worse.
00:01:34.000 The thing I wanted most in life to be was a father, even more than being a writer.
00:01:42.900 I just was a writer.
00:01:44.900 But I wanted to be a dad much more than I wanted to be anybody's husband.
00:01:50.600 And that became evident to several women thereafter.
00:01:53.720 It became evident to me, too.
00:01:56.440 But I became dad to four kids.
00:01:58.920 One of them has dropped me from his life completely, and I couldn't tell you why.
00:02:05.160 He hasn't communicated with me in years.
00:02:07.800 He doesn't answer any of my attempts to elicit a response.
00:02:11.540 Like, even a curse would be better than this.
00:02:15.400 But my three other kids are amazing and different and extraordinary and complex, and I'm so proud of them.
00:02:23.080 And I wish my dad had known them for longer.
00:02:25.740 That's one of the things he said to me on his deathbed.
00:02:29.820 When I was at the site of the Nova Music Festival last month, I was with an extraordinary young man who survived that terrible day, October 7th.
00:02:40.940 And he made me cry.
00:02:42.900 At one point, he talked about phoning his brothers, who were also at Nova that day, to say goodbye, because he thought they were all going to die.
00:02:55.380 He said to me this. 1.00
00:02:58.920 He said, men are stupid. 1.00
00:03:01.940 We don't tell each other we love each other enough. 1.00
00:03:05.320 That is so true.
00:03:07.380 That is so true.
00:03:09.040 So tell your dad you love him.
00:03:11.520 You only get one for a little while.
00:03:13.620 I could live without so much.
00:03:41.360 I can't die without a clue.
00:03:48.320 Sun keeps rising in the west.
00:03:52.460 I keep on waking before it comes to you.
00:03:56.020 I've never seen no mountain.
00:04:08.820 I've never seen no mountain.
00:04:10.420 Never swung no sea.
00:04:14.980 The city got me drowning.
00:04:17.480 I guess it's up to me.
00:04:24.440 I can't live without your touch.
00:04:28.580 I can't live without your touch.
00:04:31.000 I can't live without your touch.
00:04:44.440 I can't live without your touch.
00:04:58.560 Wee
00:05:03.560 Wee
00:05:08.560 Wee
00:05:14.560 I never see no mountain
00:05:25.560 Wee
00:05:28.560 Never swam no sea
00:05:31.560 Drowning in the city
00:05:35.560 It's really up to me
00:05:39.560 I can't live without your touch
00:05:44.560 Can't live without your touch
00:05:49.560 Can't live without your touch
00:05:53.560 Die within
00:05:59.560 Your reels 0.99
00:06:03.560 Die within
00:06:08.560 Freeze
00:06:12.560 Die within
00:06:16.560 Your reels 1.00
00:06:21.560 And I will earn your wings 1.00
00:06:31.560 Free, die within your wings 0.99
00:06:54.560 Time is in your wings 0.97
00:07:24.560 Happy Friday
00:07:33.960 Glad to be here
00:07:34.540 Warren, I want to start with you first
00:07:36.140 Because the news of the surgical strike by Israel
00:07:40.380 To force the hand of Iran to take a step back 0.99
00:07:43.820 And really ask themselves
00:07:44.980 Do we really want to pursue a nuclear weapon?
00:07:47.280 It's quite masterful in what they did
00:07:49.060 They're playing 4D chess
00:07:50.420 And it looks like they really struck at the heart of the beast
00:07:54.160 And accomplished at least initially
00:07:55.820 What they wanted to do
00:07:57.020 Which was set them back in their ambitions
00:07:58.900 Of being able to build a nuke
00:08:00.580 But I wanted to focus on the tweet
00:08:03.800 By our foreign minister, Anita Anand
00:08:05.660 Who said the first thing in her tweet
00:08:08.140 Was that they're watching the escalation closely
00:08:11.220 But the priority here is
00:08:13.260 Further action risks triggering a broader regional conflict
00:08:16.740 With devastating consequences
00:08:18.100 De-escalation must be the priority
00:08:20.660 We urge all parties to refrain from actions
00:08:22.700 That further destabilize the region
00:08:24.360 The protection of civilians must be paramount
00:08:26.060 And then the next line
00:08:27.140 Canada remains deeply concerned
00:08:28.280 By the threat posed by Iran's nuclear 0.98
00:08:30.380 Ballistic missile program
00:08:31.440 It seems to me that yet again
00:08:33.300 We've got a government
00:08:34.060 They want to both sides every single thing
00:08:36.540 In certain circumstances
00:08:38.380 Warren, there is a white hat
00:08:39.560 And there is a black hat
00:08:40.520 There is a good guy
00:08:41.360 And there is a bad guy
00:08:42.320 And I don't understand this moral equivalency
00:08:45.400 That dominates the Liberal Party of Canada these days
00:08:49.300 Well, it's the Pearson building
00:08:52.080 You know, where Foreign Affairs
00:08:55.300 Or Global Affairs is headquartered
00:08:57.160 And this reflects their approach to the world 1.00
00:08:59.980 Her tweet was idiotic 1.00
00:09:02.820 It was stupid in the extreme 1.00
00:09:05.740 On Thursday 1.00
00:09:07.540 You know, the International Atomic Energy Agency
00:09:14.140 For the first time in 20 years
00:09:16.820 Censured Iran 1.00
00:09:18.980 Saying that they were moving towards
00:09:21.000 The production of a nuclear bomb
00:09:22.980 Iran responded to that
00:09:25.840 By saying, you know what
00:09:27.180 We're going to build a third
00:09:28.520 Uranium enrichment site
00:09:30.500 And we're going to get better centrifuges
00:09:33.120 So that we can purify our uranium faster
00:09:36.660 And get a bomb
00:09:38.060 Yeah
00:09:38.400 At around the same time
00:09:41.080 Donald Trump's negotiations
00:09:42.640 With the Iranians 1.00
00:09:44.680 For a deal
00:09:45.580 And basically the deal
00:09:47.260 He was ready to settle for
00:09:49.260 Was the one that Barack Obama had
00:09:51.120 That he tore up
00:09:52.000 His negotiations failed
00:09:54.820 So at that point
00:09:55.840 Especially when the IAEA
00:09:57.540 Said what they said
00:09:58.740 Iran was getting ready 0.99
00:10:00.880 And by some reports
00:10:02.660 Was days away from producing
00:10:04.540 A nuclear bomb
00:10:05.940 Which they have the ability 0.99
00:10:08.160 To drop on Israel
00:10:10.100 Or any nation
00:10:11.160 In that part of the world
00:10:13.220 Yeah
00:10:13.460 So I don't think Israel 0.97
00:10:15.760 Had any choice whatsoever
00:10:17.680 And they had to move
00:10:20.420 Yeah
00:10:20.620 And you know
00:10:22.180 I think anybody who's sensible
00:10:24.080 Has to support them
00:10:25.060 So Chris
00:10:25.820 With the context
00:10:26.560 That Warren just provided
00:10:28.040 And thank you for that primer
00:10:29.520 Warren
00:10:30.400 With that context
00:10:31.560 What does it say
00:10:33.180 About the seriousness
00:10:34.600 Of the people in charge
00:10:36.080 That they can't see
00:10:38.040 That this action
00:10:38.920 Taken by Israel 0.99
00:10:41.820 Constitutes de-escalation
00:10:44.300 I mean I
00:10:47.300 You know Ben
00:10:48.160 I think of the Hamilton quote
00:10:49.980 You know
00:10:50.200 You stand for nothing
00:10:51.240 You fall for anything
00:10:52.040 I think that
00:10:52.740 Pretty much just epitomizes
00:10:54.500 The liberal government
00:10:56.160 Over the last 10 years
00:10:57.260 Approach to foreign affairs
00:10:58.760 I mean I don't think
00:10:59.560 Anita Anand's new to it
00:11:00.740 I think Warren's
00:11:01.860 On to something
00:11:02.580 On you know
00:11:04.080 The Pearson building
00:11:05.840 And what runs
00:11:06.700 Through the water
00:11:07.300 When it comes to
00:11:07.920 Global affairs
00:11:08.540 In this country
00:11:09.160 These days
00:11:09.680 But you know
00:11:10.360 We saw the same
00:11:11.080 Whataboutism
00:11:12.260 With Melanie Jolie
00:11:13.040 When she was the
00:11:13.900 Minister of Foreign Affairs
00:11:14.940 Previously
00:11:15.880 It's they
00:11:16.620 I don't know
00:11:17.760 What the Liberal Party
00:11:19.020 Of Canada stands for 0.79
00:11:19.920 When it comes to
00:11:20.480 Foreign affairs anymore 0.98
00:11:21.340 You know
00:11:22.060 It's like
00:11:23.120 It pains them
00:11:24.480 To say the words
00:11:25.260 That Israel has 0.97
00:11:26.000 Its right to defend itself
00:11:27.020 But you know
00:11:27.800 Not just reactively
00:11:29.040 But proactively
00:11:29.860 To make sure
00:11:30.540 That they feel safe
00:11:31.640 In the Middle East
00:11:32.360 And you know
00:11:33.140 To Warren's point
00:11:33.780 About the
00:11:34.400 You know
00:11:35.120 The nuclear bomb 0.64
00:11:35.780 Like if they're days away
00:11:36.840 Then they did the right thing
00:11:37.840 And I don't understand
00:11:38.640 Why it's become
00:11:39.320 So complicated
00:11:40.080 For us to understand
00:11:41.240 That Israel 0.98
00:11:42.120 Our ally
00:11:43.100 In the region
00:11:43.800 Would do something
00:11:44.820 To protect themselves
00:11:45.820 I mean maybe
00:11:46.500 It speaks volumes
00:11:47.140 To why it was so difficult
00:11:48.160 For us to invest
00:11:49.080 Two percent of our GDP
00:11:50.480 In having a national
00:11:51.600 Defense system
00:11:52.200 That could protect
00:11:52.700 Ourselves here in Canada
00:11:53.700 And Brad you know
00:11:55.240 I was not necessarily
00:11:56.620 A fan of a lot of
00:11:57.860 Warren's former boss
00:12:00.500 Jean Chrétien
00:12:01.120 But God do I miss
00:12:02.100 His moral clarity
00:12:02.860 I would take that
00:12:03.600 Any day of the week
00:12:04.720 Over this hedging
00:12:06.200 And wanting to have
00:12:07.640 Their cake
00:12:08.220 And eating it too
00:12:08.800 Well you talk about
00:12:09.300 Liberal foreign policy
00:12:10.220 It's appease everyone
00:12:11.380 Side with no one
00:12:12.200 And you're talking about
00:12:13.280 This might destabilize
00:12:14.640 The region
00:12:15.020 Let's just put this
00:12:16.280 Into context
00:12:16.880 Iran itself
00:12:18.080 Destabilizes the region
00:12:19.120 They're funding terror
00:12:20.260 Through seven different
00:12:21.360 Terror organizations
00:12:22.460 And when they get access
00:12:24.080 To 16 billion dollars
00:12:25.140 When it was released
00:12:25.740 By Biden
00:12:26.180 What do you think
00:12:26.560 They're going to do
00:12:26.960 With the money
00:12:27.400 This is not
00:12:28.960 Preemptive or deflective
00:12:30.440 This was the right
00:12:31.340 Thing to do
00:12:31.960 When you look at
00:12:32.940 Netanyahu saying
00:12:34.260 That they are a year away
00:12:35.340 Maybe less than a year away
00:12:36.420 From nuclear action
00:12:37.180 We don't have the
00:12:38.240 Moral compass to understand
00:12:39.240 That that region
00:12:40.060 Specifically
00:12:40.660 If they're willing to
00:12:41.520 Fund terror organization
00:12:42.520 On a daily basis
00:12:43.680 What do you think
00:12:44.340 They're going to do
00:12:44.780 With a nuclear weapon
00:12:45.560 Oh no
00:12:46.180 We'll just sit on it
00:12:46.960 It'll be our
00:12:47.600 It'll be our ace
00:12:48.360 In the hold
00:12:49.160 No this is
00:12:49.700 This was
00:12:50.060 What need to be done
00:12:51.260 And this should be
00:12:52.060 Coming out
00:12:52.500 And you should
00:12:53.280 Side with Israel 0.98
00:12:54.100 Because there is
00:12:54.760 No other way
00:12:55.280 To look at this
00:12:55.760 I know
00:12:56.040 It doesn't make
00:12:56.560 Any sense to me
00:12:57.100 Alright let's move
00:12:57.660 On to the G7
00:12:58.480 I think a lot of us
00:12:59.180 Are hotly anticipated
00:13:00.540 There's a lot of
00:13:01.600 There's a lot of guest stars
00:13:02.500 That are popping up
00:13:03.480 MBS is going to be there
00:13:05.040 Modi from India
00:13:06.540 India has been invited
00:13:07.360 And already
00:13:08.320 And already
00:13:08.340 The invitation
00:13:10.100 Of Narendra Modi
00:13:11.820 To the G7
00:13:13.420 It was causing
00:13:14.400 A lot of friction
00:13:15.460 And a lot of upset people
00:13:16.560 Specifically in the sick
00:13:17.680 Community here in Canada
00:13:19.140 But yesterday
00:13:19.820 Mercedes Stevenson
00:13:20.660 Of Global News
00:13:21.300 Had a scoop
00:13:22.420 About how the Indian
00:13:23.880 Government
00:13:24.380 Was keeping tabs
00:13:25.700 On Jagmeet Singh
00:13:26.940 During the election campaign
00:13:28.000 To the point
00:13:28.480 They had a tracker
00:13:29.520 On his car
00:13:30.380 And that he was under
00:13:32.140 Not just a little bit
00:13:33.600 Of security
00:13:34.160 But under
00:13:34.940 Like tactical security
00:13:36.760 Tactical
00:13:37.440 Military level security
00:13:39.860 That was how great
00:13:41.200 The threat was
00:13:41.900 To his life
00:13:42.780 By agents acting
00:13:44.100 At the behest
00:13:44.980 Of the Indian government
00:13:46.380 And Chris
00:13:47.200 I gotta ask you
00:13:47.960 With this sort of
00:13:49.160 Like I know
00:13:49.720 We gotta
00:13:49.980 We've gotta negotiate
00:13:51.040 With bad actors
00:13:51.840 But inviting Modi
00:13:53.640 At this point
00:13:54.480 With this information
00:13:55.660 To the most exclusive
00:13:56.960 Club in the world
00:13:57.900 It feels like
00:13:59.200 We're rewarding
00:13:59.780 Bad behavior
00:14:00.580 I couldn't agree more Ben
00:14:03.880 I
00:14:04.220 You know
00:14:04.980 And it's crazy
00:14:06.100 How quickly
00:14:06.680 Things can change
00:14:07.500 I think
00:14:08.140 I spoke earlier
00:14:09.020 This week
00:14:09.460 Saying you know
00:14:09.900 It's probably
00:14:10.440 The right thing
00:14:10.980 To do
00:14:11.300 To invite
00:14:11.920 Both Modi
00:14:12.860 And the crown prince
00:14:14.020 To the G7
00:14:14.960 As we look to
00:14:16.280 Diversifying our economy
00:14:17.700 And what that
00:14:18.400 Actually means
00:14:19.100 Right
00:14:19.360 Becoming less
00:14:20.200 Reliant on the United States
00:14:21.200 But then you see
00:14:22.060 The global story
00:14:22.680 That came out yesterday
00:14:23.460 And if there is
00:14:25.300 Truth to it
00:14:25.840 And I know
00:14:26.200 It's unverified
00:14:26.940 But if there is
00:14:28.140 Truth to the reporting
00:14:28.900 That Global had
00:14:29.620 I don't know
00:14:30.460 How we allow
00:14:31.360 Modi to step
00:14:32.480 You know
00:14:33.160 Step foot on a plane
00:14:34.420 Yet alone land
00:14:35.140 In the country
00:14:35.660 And then be invited
00:14:36.400 To the G7
00:14:37.080 That we're hosting
00:14:37.620 In Alberta
00:14:38.040 You know
00:14:39.100 This is
00:14:39.580 This
00:14:40.160 You know
00:14:40.540 The reports
00:14:41.180 Of you know
00:14:41.820 The assassination
00:14:42.420 In British Columbia
00:14:43.580 And their unwillingness
00:14:45.660 To work with
00:14:46.580 Canadian authorities
00:14:47.440 In and of itself
00:14:48.400 Was a problem
00:14:49.060 But the idea
00:14:50.320 That they may have been
00:14:51.580 You know
00:14:52.260 Doing this
00:14:54.040 And tracking
00:14:54.860 Jagmeet Singh
00:14:55.960 To the point
00:14:56.720 That he needed
00:14:57.580 The security protection
00:14:58.620 That it's reported
00:14:59.620 He had
00:15:00.100 I think it's
00:15:00.860 Absolutely absurd
00:15:01.640 And I think
00:15:02.040 It's completely
00:15:02.680 Verified and right
00:15:03.620 To cut ties
00:15:05.760 With him
00:15:06.020 And say
00:15:06.260 You know
00:15:06.560 Listen
00:15:06.840 You're not coming
00:15:07.420 Until we get
00:15:07.860 To the bottom
00:15:08.240 Of this
00:15:08.440 And we work
00:15:08.780 Something out
00:15:09.180 Warren
00:15:09.820 If you were
00:15:10.260 Working with
00:15:10.720 The Liberal
00:15:11.140 Government
00:15:11.500 Right now
00:15:12.120 Would you be
00:15:12.680 Able to spin
00:15:13.480 This to the media
00:15:14.240 Explaining why
00:15:15.160 Bringing Modi
00:15:15.920 In at this point
00:15:16.860 Under these circumstances
00:15:17.700 Is a good thing 0.54
00:15:18.340 And I'm going to
00:15:18.660 Ask you to do it
00:15:19.100 In about 45 seconds
00:15:19.980 I wouldn't be able
00:15:23.500 To look
00:15:23.940 The widow
00:15:25.180 Of Hardeeb Nijarin
00:15:26.960 In the face
00:15:28.000 Killed less than
00:15:29.720 Two years ago
00:15:30.560 In Surrey
00:15:31.360 In Canadian soil
00:15:32.480 I don't know
00:15:33.700 How you do that
00:15:34.280 Like for sure
00:15:34.840 I've talked to
00:15:35.420 The Prime Minister
00:15:36.020 About this
00:15:37.300 You have to
00:15:38.240 You know
00:15:39.040 Occasionally have
00:15:40.020 Interactions with
00:15:41.000 Unsavory characters
00:15:42.040 Like in China 1.00
00:15:42.900 But in this case
00:15:44.060 They sent
00:15:44.800 A team 1.00
00:15:46.200 To kill a 1.00
00:15:46.820 Canadian citizen 1.00
00:15:47.520 On Canadian soil
00:15:48.520 We should not
00:15:49.340 Be rolling out
00:15:49.960 The red carpet
00:15:50.620 For that regime
00:15:51.400 The last word
00:15:52.440 To you Brad Smith
00:15:52.980 Yeah
00:15:53.240 Exactly right Warren
00:15:54.480 But this
00:15:55.120 Ben you said it right
00:15:55.840 The PR behind this
00:15:57.060 And this is a
00:15:57.660 Kearney thing
00:15:58.180 Just the same way
00:15:58.940 You bring the king
00:15:59.500 In to level yourself
00:16:00.580 Up as a world leader
00:16:01.580 What he's doing
00:16:02.480 Is not thinking
00:16:03.420 About if this
00:16:04.220 Is going to stay
00:16:04.660 In the 24 hour
00:16:05.320 News cycle
00:16:05.740 Because it won't
00:16:06.300 It'll be gone
00:16:06.800 Within a week
00:16:07.320 After the G7
00:16:08.120 But the fact
00:16:08.880 Of the matter
00:16:09.240 Is 0.88
00:16:09.560 Is by being
00:16:10.260 Around these people
00:16:11.080 You know
00:16:11.660 He constantly claims
00:16:13.060 The fifth biggest
00:16:13.780 Economy in the world
00:16:14.520 They should be invited
00:16:15.220 Just for economic
00:16:16.000 And political prowess
00:16:17.180 But this is a thing
00:16:18.300 Where Mark wants
00:16:19.020 To align himself
00:16:19.740 As one of those
00:16:20.540 Top leaders
00:16:21.000 So he's got to
00:16:21.480 Bring in people
00:16:22.000 That level him up
00:16:22.960 As well
00:16:23.440 And so that other
00:16:24.120 People see him
00:16:24.760 On that level
00:16:25.400 It's just not a good look
00:16:26.660 It's not a good look
00:16:27.100 Not a good look
00:16:27.900 Alright guys
00:16:28.400 Thank you so much
00:16:28.940 So just stick around
00:16:29.580 We've got more
00:16:30.020 With our political panel
00:16:30.780 After the break
00:16:31.780 And we're going to
00:16:32.220 Be talking
00:16:32.640 Is there a role
00:16:34.060 For military parades
00:16:35.760 In western democracy
00:16:37.220 We're going to drill down
00:16:37.960 On that next
00:16:38.560 When we come back
00:16:39.140 On the Ben Mulroney Show
00:16:40.120 The Ben Mulroney Show
00:16:42.040 Marches on
00:16:42.980 On June 13th
00:16:44.880 2025
00:16:45.360 And I'm not doing it alone
00:16:46.860 Along on the ride
00:16:47.800 Is Brad Smith
00:16:48.420 Chris Chapin
00:16:48.980 And Warren Kinsella
00:16:49.600 For this week in politics
00:16:51.340 Alright we're going to
00:16:52.160 Talk about something now
00:16:53.120 That I really don't
00:16:53.900 Have a strong opinion on
00:16:54.880 Which is rare
00:16:55.460 If you're a regular
00:16:56.360 Listener of the show
00:16:57.160 We're talking about
00:16:57.980 Military parades
00:16:58.840 There is a parade
00:17:00.140 Scheduled for tomorrow
00:17:01.100 In the United States
00:17:02.420 Organized by Donald Trump
00:17:04.580 And look
00:17:05.500 I can see
00:17:06.240 I can see the positives there
00:17:07.640 I can see it's the 250th anniversary
00:17:09.740 Of the U.S. Army
00:17:12.140 And it is not
00:17:13.580 The exclusive domain
00:17:14.880 Of despots
00:17:16.120 I was at the Bastille Day
00:17:17.960 Military parade
00:17:19.100 In 1989
00:17:19.800 Celebrating the bicentennial
00:17:21.300 Of the French Revolution
00:17:23.100 But on the other side
00:17:24.720 You've got someone
00:17:25.300 Like Gavin Newsom
00:17:26.240 Let's listen to what
00:17:26.780 He had to say
00:17:27.300 It's the kind of thing
00:17:30.800 You see
00:17:31.220 Kim Jong-un
00:17:32.160 You see it
00:17:32.740 Putin
00:17:33.760 You see it with dictators
00:17:34.780 Around the world
00:17:36.980 That are weak
00:17:38.240 And just want to
00:17:39.620 Demonstrate
00:17:40.260 Strength
00:17:41.340 Weakness
00:17:42.660 Masquerading
00:17:44.220 As strength
00:17:45.080 To fit
00:17:46.480 The dear leader
00:17:47.920 On his birthday
00:17:48.720 What an embarrassment
00:17:51.800 Alright so look
00:17:53.960 I can see both sides
00:17:54.800 Warren I suspect
00:17:55.740 You probably have
00:17:56.400 A more pointed opinion
00:17:57.200 Than I
00:17:57.580 My opinion is that
00:18:00.500 Of President Dwight D. Eisenhower
00:18:02.660 Years ago
00:18:03.680 It was suggested to him
00:18:05.820 That he have such a parade
00:18:07.380 To show off the strength
00:18:08.880 Of the United States of America
00:18:10.360 And this is what he said
00:18:11.900 This is a quote
00:18:12.560 Absolutely not
00:18:13.820 We are the preeminent power
00:18:15.860 On earth
00:18:16.420 For us to try and imitate
00:18:18.200 What the Soviets are doing 1.00
00:18:19.620 In Red Square
00:18:20.400 Would make us look weak
00:18:22.120 They look weak 1.00
00:18:23.880 They look pathetic 1.00
00:18:25.080 They look like they're 1.00
00:18:26.460 Being hauled out
00:18:27.800 The military
00:18:28.800 Who have other jobs
00:18:30.420 Have other more important things
00:18:32.680 To do
00:18:32.920 Being hauled out
00:18:33.880 For the birthday
00:18:35.300 Of this felon
00:18:37.040 And
00:18:37.600 But anyway
00:18:38.960 It's representative
00:18:40.300 Of the madness
00:18:41.060 That's gripped the United States
00:18:42.360 Over the past few months
00:18:43.480 Nothing surprises me anymore
00:18:45.500 But Chris
00:18:46.400 Maybe I'm missing something
00:18:48.100 In sort of Warren's
00:18:50.080 Laser focus on this
00:18:51.820 And I take him
00:18:52.540 I take his point
00:18:53.660 But look
00:18:54.420 If after years
00:18:55.540 Of mistreating our military
00:18:56.960 If all of a sudden
00:18:57.500 We did get it to the point
00:18:58.960 Where it is the fullest expression
00:19:00.360 Of what Mark Carney says
00:19:01.260 He wants it to be
00:19:02.100 I don't know
00:19:03.120 I kind of want to see
00:19:04.060 What we paid for
00:19:04.880 I kind of want to
00:19:05.560 I kind of want
00:19:06.920 Our military
00:19:08.200 To walk down the streets
00:19:09.100 In Ottawa
00:19:09.460 With pride
00:19:10.200 And beaming
00:19:10.720 And we could all get there
00:19:11.700 And tell them
00:19:12.940 How much we appreciate them
00:19:14.080 Am I missing something here?
00:19:17.380 Well you and I both know
00:19:18.780 Ben
00:19:19.100 That the residents of Ottawa
00:19:20.160 Would have a meltdown
00:19:21.640 If the military
00:19:22.520 Paraded down Rideau Street
00:19:24.240 They'd
00:19:24.760 They'd clinch their fists
00:19:26.220 And be terrified
00:19:26.880 Of what was happening
00:19:27.560 No I think
00:19:28.280 I think Warren's spot on
00:19:29.820 It's
00:19:30.160 It's not about
00:19:32.260 You know
00:19:33.240 The parade itself
00:19:34.460 It's just
00:19:35.040 It's
00:19:35.580 It's the president
00:19:36.460 It's
00:19:37.160 It's because of who he is
00:19:38.640 If this actually was
00:19:39.960 Any sort of a tradition
00:19:41.160 That the United States
00:19:42.480 Would typically do
00:19:43.500 Roll out the
00:19:44.060 Military
00:19:44.340 To honor
00:19:44.900 You know
00:19:45.460 Very important
00:19:46.320 Anniversaries
00:19:47.520 Or historic
00:19:48.460 Moments
00:19:49.300 In the United States
00:19:50.640 History
00:19:51.100 It would be something
00:19:52.860 Different
00:19:53.140 But it's not
00:19:53.740 It's his birthday
00:19:54.840 And we all know
00:19:55.560 When it comes to the president
00:19:56.320 We know his fixation
00:19:57.420 On China
00:19:57.780 We know his fixation
00:19:58.840 On Russia
00:19:59.320 And his respect
00:20:00.980 And his belief
00:20:01.640 Of Vladimir Putin
00:20:02.820 And so for him to do this
00:20:04.320 With everything that's going on
00:20:05.460 And it just so happens
00:20:06.480 To be his birthday
00:20:07.120 I wonder how hard
00:20:08.220 They had to look
00:20:09.080 To figure out
00:20:09.600 And find an anniversary
00:20:10.640 That just happened to go inside
00:20:12.060 With his birthday
00:20:12.920 Because some intern 0.95
00:20:14.520 In the White House
00:20:15.300 Eventually found out
00:20:16.460 Hey guys
00:20:16.860 It's the 200th anniversary
00:20:18.820 Of the military
00:20:19.860 Yeah
00:20:20.200 Like it's just not
00:20:21.380 It had nothing to do
00:20:22.560 With anything other than
00:20:23.480 The president himself
00:20:24.160 And that's what makes it look weak
00:20:25.140 And look
00:20:25.680 I'm not naive
00:20:26.500 Of course
00:20:26.840 Of course I know
00:20:27.680 That they try to
00:20:28.580 Shoehorn this in
00:20:29.860 Of course
00:20:30.160 On his birthday
00:20:30.860 Of course I get that
00:20:32.020 Ben it's my birthday
00:20:32.980 I need someone
00:20:33.800 To celebrate me
00:20:34.860 But like
00:20:35.700 If this were
00:20:37.140 If this were a different
00:20:38.060 President doing it
00:20:39.280 I wonder if we would
00:20:40.000 Be feeling the same thing
00:20:41.140 And I know
00:20:41.580 Like I get it
00:20:42.140 I know that we're doing it
00:20:43.400 Because Donald Trump
00:20:44.060 Wants to do it for himself
00:20:44.920 But
00:20:45.500 The act itself
00:20:47.540 Take him out of it
00:20:48.980 Take the fact
00:20:49.680 It's happening tomorrow
00:20:50.240 That it has never
00:20:51.120 Happened before
00:20:51.740 Is there something
00:20:53.320 Intrinsically wrong
00:20:54.340 With a western democracy
00:20:56.600 Doing something like this
00:20:57.520 I want to kind of
00:20:58.060 Key on to
00:20:58.720 What you said earlier
00:20:59.520 With the way that
00:21:00.500 They've been treated
00:21:01.020 For the last
00:21:01.540 Specifically four years
00:21:02.640 Or the
00:21:03.500 You know
00:21:04.160 The numbers of recruitment
00:21:05.360 Going down
00:21:05.880 Year after year
00:21:06.620 After year
00:21:06.960 I see this as more of a
00:21:08.220 Yes
00:21:08.460 Two-fold we have to say
00:21:09.520 There's no coincidence
00:21:11.560 That it's happening
00:21:12.300 On his birthday
00:21:12.760 But at the same time
00:21:13.760 Having lived in Los Angeles
00:21:15.260 Right around the
00:21:16.020 War museum
00:21:17.140 Seeing the veterans
00:21:18.040 How mistreated they are
00:21:19.260 This is something
00:21:20.380 Where that can
00:21:21.160 Re-inspire
00:21:21.880 Let's take a good point
00:21:22.820 I'm going to
00:21:23.120 Counterpoint this one
00:21:23.920 This can re-inspire
00:21:24.980 It can help your enlistment
00:21:26.080 We're going through a time
00:21:27.060 Where escalation in the world
00:21:28.240 Is actually happening
00:21:29.200 And for us
00:21:30.480 Specifically as
00:21:31.580 The partner and partner
00:21:32.960 To the Americans
00:21:34.060 Who protect us
00:21:34.960 And our sovereignty
00:21:35.740 As much as we like
00:21:36.820 We hate saying that
00:21:37.980 It's important for them
00:21:40.220 To have a strong presence
00:21:41.260 Have a strong military
00:21:42.220 And yes
00:21:42.960 This is a
00:21:43.960 The pomp and circumstance thing
00:21:45.500 But I don't see
00:21:46.780 There being a detriment
00:21:47.920 And I would love to hear
00:21:48.940 From a US soldier
00:21:50.340 And how they feel
00:21:51.540 But I would be surprised
00:21:52.720 If they weren't
00:21:53.420 On board with this
00:21:54.180 Because they are
00:21:54.940 Not seen in
00:21:56.060 As good of a light
00:21:56.760 As they used to be
00:21:57.300 In the past
00:21:57.720 And they are very
00:21:58.480 Very important
00:21:59.180 All right Chris Chapin
00:22:00.060 Let's turn our eyes
00:22:01.480 To domestic policy
00:22:02.920 As it relates to
00:22:03.760 The electric vehicle market
00:22:05.940 Studies are showing
00:22:08.360 That the appetite
00:22:09.140 By Canadians
00:22:10.060 Just isn't there
00:22:11.020 Sales have
00:22:11.560 Sunk like a stone
00:22:13.000 A very similar drop
00:22:15.300 In the United States
00:22:16.300 Donald Trump
00:22:16.840 Made his pronouncement
00:22:17.760 That he is getting rid
00:22:18.960 Of all mandates
00:22:19.900 Up here
00:22:20.880 On our side
00:22:21.860 Of the border
00:22:22.220 Despite the CEOs
00:22:23.780 Of GM Canada
00:22:25.780 And Ford Canada
00:22:26.960 Saying you got to
00:22:28.280 Get rid of the mandate
00:22:29.000 Our minister
00:22:30.100 Melanie Jolie
00:22:30.860 Minister of innovation
00:22:32.240 Said not only
00:22:32.980 Are they keeping the mandate
00:22:33.840 But they're probably
00:22:34.460 Going to re-institute
00:22:35.540 Some sort of incentive
00:22:36.700 So what am I missing here
00:22:38.980 The market has spoken
00:22:42.420 The consumers are speaking
00:22:43.780 And the government
00:22:44.580 Is saying we're going
00:22:45.100 In the opposite direction
00:22:45.920 Yeah you're not
00:22:49.620 Missing anything Ben
00:22:50.480 It's just it's the
00:22:51.580 It is this liberal government
00:22:52.840 Just doing what they do best
00:22:54.160 They you know
00:22:55.080 When you when the
00:22:55.960 When the public tells them
00:22:57.100 They're wrong
00:22:57.500 They double down
00:22:58.100 And say no we're right
00:22:58.940 And it is a real challenge
00:23:00.820 I mean it's it's something
00:23:02.160 That I think is going to be
00:23:03.860 A massive challenge
00:23:05.320 For Canadian economies
00:23:06.960 Especially here in Ontario
00:23:08.040 With the investments
00:23:08.740 Both the province
00:23:09.640 And the federal government
00:23:10.660 Have made
00:23:11.160 When it comes to
00:23:12.860 Electric vehicles
00:23:13.940 Is what happens
00:23:15.360 If we get this wrong
00:23:16.280 What happens if that
00:23:17.120 Demand isn't there
00:23:18.180 And unfortunately
00:23:18.920 We're seeing that demand
00:23:20.440 Not meet the expectations
00:23:22.460 We all thought there might be
00:23:24.100 And and maybe maybe not
00:23:25.380 We should use we 1.00
00:23:26.200 Generously in this in this sense
00:23:28.180 But there's always been
00:23:30.420 A hesitancy
00:23:30.840 You don't look out
00:23:31.460 On the streets
00:23:31.940 People haven't adopted
00:23:33.000 Electric vehicles
00:23:33.700 Like I think people
00:23:34.300 Thought they were
00:23:34.740 I think there's concerns
00:23:35.460 About the technology
00:23:36.760 I think there's concerns
00:23:37.520 About the fact we live
00:23:38.320 In you know Canada
00:23:39.920 And we have winters
00:23:40.940 And the battery strengths
00:23:42.020 Do weaken
00:23:43.060 When the temperatures drop
00:23:44.480 And you know
00:23:45.520 We have to drive
00:23:46.320 Far distances
00:23:47.100 Where the charging stations
00:23:48.280 Just aren't there
00:23:49.220 In the capacity
00:23:50.160 That they need to be
00:23:50.900 So I don't think it's a
00:23:51.780 I don't think it's a surprise
00:23:52.940 That the demand
00:23:53.560 Isn't there yet
00:23:54.440 It's just
00:23:55.280 How do we balance that
00:23:56.440 With the you know
00:23:57.340 Incredible massive investments
00:23:59.180 That the province
00:24:00.160 And the federal government
00:24:00.880 Have made into
00:24:01.720 Electric vehicle you know
00:24:03.720 Manufacturing here in the country
00:24:05.420 Yeah and and Warren
00:24:06.840 I can see that
00:24:07.760 A lot of governments
00:24:08.720 Are in a tight spot
00:24:09.740 They bet really heavy
00:24:10.760 On this this new economy
00:24:12.400 But don't forget
00:24:12.900 We also tariffed
00:24:13.860 Chinese EVs
00:24:15.300 To keep them out
00:24:16.740 Of the market
00:24:17.160 As a way to protect
00:24:18.300 This burgeoning EV market
00:24:20.520 That we just don't have
00:24:21.520 That suffered a massive
00:24:23.280 Forced a massive setback
00:24:25.120 To our canola industry
00:24:26.360 Because that got tariffed
00:24:27.460 100% by the Chinese 0.96
00:24:28.540 In retaliation
00:24:29.460 So like are we just
00:24:32.720 Throwing good money
00:24:33.600 After bad
00:24:34.280 The sales of EVs
00:24:37.480 Are dropping across the board
00:24:38.700 Tesla most dramatically
00:24:40.240 Because you know
00:24:41.180 Tesla was designed
00:24:42.280 For liberals
00:24:42.860 And then Elon Musk
00:24:43.960 Proceeded to piss off
00:24:45.620 Liberals everywhere
00:24:46.460 But you know
00:24:48.160 They're ending
00:24:49.140 The consumer rebate programs
00:24:50.880 A lot of governments
00:24:51.700 You've got concerns
00:24:53.720 About the cost
00:24:54.400 They cost more
00:24:55.300 Than internal combustion engines
00:24:58.000 And then for guys like me
00:24:59.480 You know I live in
00:25:00.360 Prince Edward County
00:25:01.440 There's no charging stations
00:25:03.480 Near me
00:25:04.200 Yeah that infrastructure
00:25:05.040 Has been built out
00:25:05.860 The way it has in the states
00:25:06.680 A lot of people have range anxiety
00:25:08.260 It's like what if I run out of power
00:25:10.200 When I'm in the middle of nowhere
00:25:11.640 So there's lots of good reasons
00:25:12.980 Why consumers have moved away from it
00:25:15.080 And the industry needs to figure that out
00:25:17.400 If they're serious
00:25:18.240 If governments are serious about it
00:25:19.680 They need to make some changes
00:25:21.020 To get people back into the marketplace
00:25:22.720 But right now
00:25:23.460 They're leaving in droves
00:25:24.620 Yeah and Brad
00:25:25.220 The argument is
00:25:26.280 Everybody who can afford one
00:25:27.380 Already has one
00:25:28.020 Well and to follow Warren's point
00:25:29.660 Just the charging alone
00:25:30.960 If you look at this mandate
00:25:32.300 The word
00:25:33.020 And to take a sentence
00:25:34.360 You use all the time
00:25:35.060 Car before the horse
00:25:35.840 Right
00:25:36.160 We haven't
00:25:37.260 We throw money at things
00:25:38.360 Without understanding
00:25:39.000 How to actually
00:25:40.280 Fundamentally put them in place
00:25:41.860 This is if you look at it
00:25:43.180 Infeasible on any level
00:25:44.380 The grid structure
00:25:45.420 The charging stations
00:25:46.480 The demand
00:25:47.180 It just doesn't make sense
00:25:48.460 And what you're trying to do
00:25:49.500 Is saying
00:25:49.800 This is going to be the mandate
00:25:50.700 And we'll figure it out
00:25:51.600 On the way down the road
00:25:52.520 And we haven't spent the money yet
00:25:53.760 We haven't done it yet
00:25:54.500 And guess what
00:25:55.260 Not only can we not
00:25:56.120 Drive our cars in the winter
00:25:57.120 To what Chris says
00:25:57.960 But look
00:25:58.500 When I lived in Los Angeles
00:25:59.500 You had on the radio
00:26:00.700 Times where you couldn't
00:26:01.740 Charge your car
00:26:02.260 Please don't
00:26:02.780 Because the power grid will come out
00:26:04.120 Yeah
00:26:04.460 Yeah
00:26:04.880 And let's not forget
00:26:06.160 It's also more expensive
00:26:06.860 To insure those cars
00:26:07.880 Hey Brad Smith
00:26:08.700 Chris Chapin
00:26:09.280 Warren Kinsella
00:26:09.900 Always love having the three of you
00:26:11.140 On the show
00:26:11.540 I hope you have a great weekend
00:26:12.940 To the three of you
00:26:13.560 Thank you so much
00:26:14.520 Thanks guys
00:26:15.220 I'm a bad mess
00:26:16.220 I'm a loner
00:26:24.520 With no plans
00:26:28.040 Go back home
00:26:31.640 Try again
00:26:34.720 Again
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00:26:38.220 Me
00:26:47.480 sugar
00:26:49.060 About
00:26:50.020 Radio
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00:27:00.560 Serial
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00:27:15.720 I'm a contest 0.97
00:27:22.720 I'm a loser with no chance
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00:27:51.720 Come on, get out of my hand 1.00
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00:30:31.680 We'll be right back.
00:31:01.680 A religious prophecy and that he is anointed by God to secure Israel.
00:31:07.620 The Ayatollah in Iran is also a guy who believes he has a direct phone line to God, right?
00:31:14.760 Shia over there, believing they are the descendants of Muhammad and that the Ayatollah, the closest descendant there to ruling Iran. 0.95
00:31:22.780 So you've got two delusional folk who believe that God informs their policy.
00:31:29.520 Now, obviously, Israel could not allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon.
00:31:34.400 And there have been, and I looked it up, 14 ultimatums by the United States to Iran from the rest of the world in the United States, I should say, over the last 10 years alone.
00:31:44.000 Iran hasn't met any of them.
00:31:45.420 They haven't complied with the atomic energy oversight that they were asked to.
00:31:50.420 And they were very clearly trying to develop a nuclear weapon because they believe, at the very least, it would bring them security, if not an opportunity to wipe Israel off the map because they don't seem to mind killing their own people. 0.90
00:32:02.080 They're downwind, don't you know?
00:32:03.540 So, where are we at?
00:32:05.420 Right now, in Tehran, in the last two hours, and this is good news, I want to bring some good news in, tons of elites from the Ayatollah and the IRGC regime are leaving through the closed airports.
00:32:18.220 Private jets are flying out of Iran willy-nilly as we speak.
00:32:22.800 Israel owns the skies over Iran, and then here's the challenge. 0.76
00:32:27.340 Putin has refused to intervene and broker a peace.
00:32:30.640 He has a relationship with Israel.
00:32:32.160 We'll get to Russia in a minute.
00:32:33.540 So, you went through a lot of things there.
00:32:37.300 But, you know, my question remains, whether people are talking to God or not, is this move by Israel a mistake?
00:32:49.000 I don't know is the answer, and that's probably why I didn't answer it.
00:32:52.760 Was it necessary?
00:32:54.760 Yeah, maybe.
00:32:55.320 Is it a mistake insofar as it is dividing that entire region, Pakistan, backing Iran, India now sort of being on our side? 0.96
00:33:04.740 People taking sides, foreign air bases now getting involved, Syrian army now securing the border with Iraq because the Iranians are theoretically maybe going to try and roll through to Israel. 0.93
00:33:16.520 We might have a global war on our hands, and if so, then this launch was a mistake.
00:33:23.180 Mark Carney made a very interesting tweet yesterday.
00:33:27.940 It lacked the ambivalence and the sucking and blowing that we so often see coming out of the Pearson building and coming out of foreign affairs.
00:33:38.280 It pretty clearly articulated support for Israel and Israel's ability to defend itself.
00:33:45.280 It surprised quite a few people, me included.
00:33:48.580 What's, as Canada gets ready to chair the G7 in Canaanaskis and Alberta this weekend, what is the position you think this country should adopt?
00:33:57.700 Not that anybody regards this as a geopolitical major player, of course, but what do you think Canadians should be thinking about all of this?
00:34:07.220 Well, first of all, Canadians should realize that we are functioning in a large hotel and that we're the receptionist organizing this event,
00:34:13.600 that we have absolutely no influence.
00:34:16.320 The only reason we're part of the G7 is because of the size and the scope of our economy. 0.97
00:34:21.900 We certainly don't have the military power, the population, or the global influence to matter at any other fucking level. 0.92
00:34:29.820 Second of all, I'd like to say to Mr. Carney, who has mostly impressed me, 0.98
00:34:33.520 that Canadian values are not Muslim values. 0.58
00:34:36.240 Muslim values are not Canadian values. 0.99
00:34:38.020 Canadian values are Canadian values.
00:34:39.600 Muslim values include women not owning land, women being the chattel of men, Sharia law. 0.93
00:34:46.060 Those are very liberal Muslim values, let alone Islamic values, where you're talking about global dominion. 1.00
00:34:53.080 So, Mr. Carney should put a cork in that shit right away and stop sucking and blowing, 1.00
00:34:58.300 probably to his political benefit or to hold on to those folks as voters, 1.00
00:35:02.920 and say the Canadian values, because orthodox, ultra-orthodox Jewish values are not Canadian values.
00:35:08.960 Opus Dei values are not Canadian values.
00:35:12.320 You know, you can be fair about this.
00:35:14.360 So, when it comes to the G7 expectations, let's be a good, quiet host.
00:35:19.160 There are a bunch of kings arriving in Alberta, and most of them just behave like kings.
00:35:23.660 I looked it up.
00:35:24.500 Not a single one of them has a 50 plus one majority in their respective parliaments or houses.
00:35:30.320 Yeah, but one of them has got absolute power, which is Mr. Modi from India.
00:35:37.140 And the objection that I've made, and others have as well, is less than two years ago,
00:35:43.940 he sent a hit squad into Surrey, British Columbia, and he killed a Canadian on Canadian soil in broad daylight.
00:35:51.720 We know that he did that.
00:35:53.400 Our source is our former Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau.
00:35:56.340 So, mere months later, we've got the new Prime Minister of Canada inviting Modi to the G7.
00:36:03.700 It feels like it's a little too soon to me.
00:36:06.160 What do you think?
00:36:07.240 Well, I don't know.
00:36:08.060 Mr. Trump has sent hit squads all around the world, as did his predecessor, Mr. Biden, President Biden.
00:36:14.080 The Germans, the British, the French, sent hit squads all around the world all the time to eliminate corporate and political enemies.
00:36:20.180 It just doesn't get the attention.
00:36:21.880 And I would also caution Canada.
00:36:23.500 It is, of course, illegal and wrong that Mr. Modi did that, and he was caught, you know, red-faced and with his hand there, you know, in his pants when he did it.
00:36:33.080 But, having said that, we allowed thousands of Khalistani radicals. 0.67
00:36:38.080 And I remember when Bob Ray, whom I worked for, was working on the Air India project, he told me he knew there were guys in those rooms who knew who had actually perpetrated Air India. 0.98
00:36:47.740 He knew he was sitting across the table from them, and there was nothing he could fucking do. 0.94
00:36:52.440 Those are the same people. 0.98
00:36:53.600 So, we let a whole bunch of Khalistani radicals that Modi was eliminating in his own country, we let them in here, and then we're surprised when they continue to organize from abroad to destabilize India. 0.99
00:37:05.840 And most Sikhs, by the way, are not Khalistani supporters.
00:37:08.700 But these guys are.
00:37:09.800 They're radicals.
00:37:10.800 They're living here.
00:37:11.640 They're protected by our government.
00:37:13.040 And Mr. Modi says, they're organizing from there. 0.99
00:37:15.280 I've got to fucking stop it. 0.99
00:37:16.460 I understand his rationale. 0.98
00:37:17.860 It doesn't make what he did right.
00:37:19.380 But every single person in the G7 is a murderer.
00:37:24.000 And sends hit squads to other places in the world to solve their problems. 0.97
00:37:28.580 So, let's not be hypocrites here. 0.96
00:37:30.380 We are receptionists for murderous kings. 0.97
00:37:33.920 Final thing.
00:37:35.900 I'm not sure we have hit squads.
00:37:39.000 I don't think we actually have been able to find it.
00:37:40.440 We might be the only people who don't.
00:37:41.860 Yeah, I don't think we can finance a hit squad.
00:37:45.220 But the final thing I wanted to ask you about.
00:37:48.240 But one of the dangers when you have an eruption and a conflict blowing up in one place of the world is people start forgetting about conflicts that are ongoing in other places.
00:37:59.360 And so, I'm thinking most notably about Ukraine.
00:38:01.660 And things have been getting exceedingly hot there.
00:38:07.620 Lots of loss of life on both sides.
00:38:09.960 But particularly on the Ukrainian side.
00:38:12.280 Civilians being targeted by Putin.
00:38:14.620 What has been going on there in the past few days?
00:38:18.080 And why do you think or do you think that we should be paying closer attention to Ukraine while Iran and Israel are duking it out?
00:38:25.740 I think that we're perfectly capable of paying attention to two things at once.
00:38:29.820 Maybe not three.
00:38:30.860 We should be paying attention.
00:38:32.380 I maintain, as I have on this podcast for years now, that this is a managed war.
00:38:36.620 Over the last few days, a couple things have happened.
00:38:39.120 One, of course, aside from the accelerated rate and pulse of drones and ballistic missiles and heavy artillery blowing up civilian areas.
00:38:48.640 And also institutions and factories and military depots on both sides of the border, by the way.
00:38:54.720 The Ukrainians also kill civilians in Russia. 1.00
00:38:57.860 Let's be clear about that.
00:38:58.840 This is a managed war.
00:39:00.300 Over the last few days, there have been a number of prisoner exchanges.
00:39:03.360 Which leads me back to my point that I've made.
00:39:05.540 This is a managed war.
00:39:08.040 And Trump clearly has no ability to broker a deal.
00:39:11.280 The only person who might have an ability to broker a deal might be China.
00:39:17.120 Might be China.
00:39:18.120 They might actually have a table because they don't really have any skin in the game.
00:39:21.700 We should also add that Iran, now that it's under attack from Israel, will be hard-pressed to continue to supply Russia with weapons or buy Russian oil or sell their own oil to Russia, which puts Russia at a greater economic disadvantage.
00:39:38.400 So that war continues apace.
00:39:41.100 Zelensky announced he estimates a million Russian men and women have died in the front lines.
00:39:46.380 Good God.
00:39:47.000 A million.
00:39:47.860 A million.
00:39:49.040 And Putin is still throwing more at the chowder.
00:39:51.660 So it's just a horror show.
00:39:53.500 And I don't know what else to say about that.
00:39:55.420 And in 2025, the world is increasingly a horror show.
00:39:58.600 It seems like conflicts popping up everywhere.
00:40:01.240 And there's quite a few that we haven't even had time to mention in the past 10 minutes.
00:40:05.500 But John Mraz, thank you for walking us all through it and depressing the living shit out of us.
00:40:10.220 We really appreciate it very much.
00:40:11.620 Here's to the end of Kings.
00:40:15.380 Ico, Ico.
00:40:16.080 All the tired horses in the sun
00:40:22.300 How am I supposed to get any right and don't
00:40:28.160 How am I supposed to get any right and don't
00:40:48.920 How am I supposed to get any right and don't
00:41:10.000 How am I supposed to get any right and don't
00:41:40.000 How am I supposed to get any right and don't
00:42:09.980 How am I supposed to get any right and don't
00:42:39.960 How am I supposed to get any right and don't
00:42:41.960 In the sun
00:42:42.420 How am I supposed to get any right and don't
00:42:57.840 Oh, the tired horse in the last song
00:43:02.840 How am I supposed to get any right in dawn?
00:43:27.840 How am I supposed to get any right in the last song?