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- September 14, 2025
KINSELLACAST 379: Stop political violence now - with Lilley, Paradis, Bray, Mulroney, Chapin, Belanger - and Mysterines, Slow Groove Kings and more!
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Length
1 hour and 22 minutes
Words per Minute
152.51941
Word Count
12,604
Sentence Count
272
Misogynist Sentences
14
Hate Speech Sentences
122
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it's the kinsella cast starring warren kinsella
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hey it's warren welcome to kinsella cast if you could see me you would be laughing right i think
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you would anyway i am i'm up at the cabin with the dogs and i don't have my windscreen you know in
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the you see those in pictures of studios it's like when you do a peep you don't get that popping
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sound on the microphone so i'm using a bacon grease splatter screen to avoid popping in your
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ear so looks pretty funny hopefully it's working um great show for you this week i had a great week
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um s of h played at the bovine opening for richard lloyd and we had tons of friends there
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um and it was a great night so that happened on thursday night and um those of you who were able
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to attend thank you and hopefully i got a chance to connect with with you i got a chance to connect
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with a lot of different people um different kind of music though this week um i've got uh the mr
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rings who i love led by leah metcalf who i'm in love with you know i'm in love with e okay but
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leah metcalf is next like she's such a rock star so the mr rings their song stray from last year from
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their second album afraid of tomorrow's then i've got leon matchgen and i'm not sure if i pronounced
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that right but he's from florida son of bosnian refugees with his song tallahassee it's yes it is
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blues i can play blues and i'm playing blues and with his co-vocal is with riley downing
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who's from missouri so a couple southerners there another southerner uh from alabama i got britney
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howard singing we got to get out of this place which is timely these days i'll tell you
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um it's from the soundtrack of the new honey don't film but the song itself is much older of course from
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1965 sung by the animals at the height of the vietnam war and i thought it'd be quite timely
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after this shitty week and then i got the slow groove kings who are from ohio but also sounding
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like southerners and they've got a 2025 album called the nashville vampire supper club ep actually it's an
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ep it's not an album with their song i go down and then a band from belgium to close it off completely
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different than everybody else with fuck you i'm going on tour
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and they're called mitrae m-i-t-r-a-i-l-l-e fuck you i'm going on tour god i love that
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um so uh brian lily ben moroni melanie parody carl belanger evan bray got a great show for you
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so at the precise moment that charlie kirk was being murdered i was watching the end of the
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documentary the road between us at roy thompson hall and it was sad uh but fitting the road between
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us is about two israeli parents noam and galley tibon uh and he's a famous retired um israeli general
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rushing to a kibbutz that i have been to many times in israel south on october 7th to see if
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their son amir and their daughter-in-law miri and their two granddaughters were dead
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or to save them and amir i can tell you i've got one of his books is a writer he's a great one and
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he has opinions and he survived that day happily charlie kirk meanwhile was a young man who was
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also a writer and he had opinions and he was killed for them the ideas in the road between us
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had been banned for a while by the toronto international film festival which was outrageous
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after you see the documentary and i think you will it is even more outrageous it's a film that
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promotes peace not war it is a film that is highly critical of israel's government and military
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and that's not all i could count on one hand the number of times the word israel was uttered
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tiff's decision to censor it therefore was really stupid if it was an attempt to censor an idea it
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failed now tiff's ceo cameron bailey came on stage before the documentary started to apologize
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personally for the pain he and his organization caused there were a few boos but mostly the many
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jewish canadians in attendance applauded him and i thought it was a great moment it was a wonderful
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moment because it showed there is a way to disagree without resorting to hate without resorting to
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violence the assassination of charlie kirk was a hate crime obviously it was a terrible act of
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violence and nobody who hated kirk's writings someone who hated his words decided to express their
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disagreement with a bullet so they stole life from a young man with a young family simply because
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they didn't like his ideas now many people have professed to be shocked by the assassination of
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charlie kirk but i am not one of them our supposedly civilized society is riven with division and hatred
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in these dark days you've got a young jewish couple gunned down in washington a young muslim boy killed in
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new york an elderly jewish woman killed in colorado and now charlie kirk none of those people were
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soldiers none of them were on a battlefield all of them were just ordinary people with hopes and
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dreams and thoughts and ideas and people who loved them and they were killed because someone decided to
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express disagreement to express hatred with an act of murder now some polls came out just before the
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showing of the documentary just before the murder of charlie kirk there was a you gov poll i saw
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found that one in five young people support the use of violence and politics a tufts poll found around
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the same thing and canaan polls have found since october 7th that nearly half our young people gen z and
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millennials support hamas's use of violence against jews support it so if we're being honest with
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ourselves what happened to charlie kirk isn't a surprise anymore instead it is the way in which too many
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people have chosen to express opposition and if we continue to be honest with ourselves we know
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where all of this is going more violence more bloodshed more death it feels inevitable we possess the means
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to stop it we can change but i don't think we ever will
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what a drug it is look what you've done now you're not the kind to make
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real promises
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listen to the city before you step outside
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it's easy to disobey the warning signs now
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we're straight we're straight we're straight we're straight we're straight can we just rewind back
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another lesson learned
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a bit too young
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no you're not the kind to say you can tell me what honest is
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i'm
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i'm back in the city you could change my mind
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it's not so easy to say
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we're straight we're straight we're straight
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Can we just rewind?
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Listen, I'll get the food unless you know the answer for it
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Beating the right and I sure don't know that to hurt
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We're straight
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We're straight
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We're straight
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Can we
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We're straight
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We're straight
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We're straight
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Can we just rewind?
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We're back
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We're back with our friend Brian Lilly
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And Brian, the Ontario Liberal Party
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With which, full disclosure, I was once closely associated
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Is having an AGM this weekend
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And Bonnie Crombie, the leader, is there in her suffragette suit
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And apparently a watch that you know something about
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And facing a leadership review
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Probably in a few hours
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So you and I actually have to predict the future
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I think she'll get close to 70%
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What's your take?
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Yeah, I think she'll get
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Between 60 and 70, I think
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And I think
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Whatever it is
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Enough to survive
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But I'll share some gossip that I was hearing from folks at the convention
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And in the party
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So
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Apparently not very well organized
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My sources on the ground
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Were saying that
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Bonnie's team was
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Not overly sure yesterday
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Where things were going
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She had also been making calls ahead of time
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To try and see
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You know
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Okay, if things don't work out
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Is there a diplomatic post
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That I could get somewhere?
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An appointment?
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Wow
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Which doesn't exactly stream confidence
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And
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But
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By the end of the day
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What I was hearing is that
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Crombie's scrutineers were smiling
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So
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Not overly confident going in
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Seemed to be confident by the end of the day
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Maybe the confidence was boosted by the $14,000 car chain watch
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She was wearing
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That's what it cost at Berks anyway
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I looked it up
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And
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You know
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Someone flagged it to me
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And said
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That's a car chain
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Checked with Brian Passifume
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Who's a bit of a watch geek
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Because he collects watches
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And he said
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Yeah, that looks like this car chain
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Looked it up on Berks website
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That's $14,000
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You know
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If you know anything about how the PC party has tried to
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Portray Bonnie
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It's that she's expensive
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And that watch screams expensive
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Before we go on from the watch
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Do you remember
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Was it 93 or 97
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That Cratchin put out his manual
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For candidates
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And it was
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No expensive watches
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No expensive outfits
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And when you show up at events
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You show up in a North American made car
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Oh yeah
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Was it 93 or 97?
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Well I remember when I was on his staff
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Some poor organizer in Northern Ontario
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Who I will not name
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You know
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Wanted to pay tribute to the boss
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And show up with a Cadillac
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And Cratchin lost his temper
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And said
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I'm not going to get in that goddamn thing
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And you come back here with a goddamn Chevy
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And
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It's important
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Never
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My rule is
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Never get photographed playing golf or tennis
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But then again
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The President of the United States gets photographed
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Playing golf all the time
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Doesn't hurt him
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Speaking of Bonnie's opponent
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Mr. Ford
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What I've noticed lately
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And it's working for him
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You know
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Pouring out bottles of Crown Royal
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Saying he's going to throw doctors in the slammer
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Who
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You know
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Experiment on dogs and cats
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Shutting down school board trustees
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Cut down photo radar
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Like he's
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You know
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The speed cameras
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Like he
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I can really tell
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That your wife
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Is
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On his staff
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Because
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If this is
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Doug
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Doug Ford
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Unfiltered
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What do you think
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I mean
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So far
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Seems to be working for him
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Seems to be
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Long term
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I think he's
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Got a hazard
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In being too belligerent
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And at times
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He does come across
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As belligerent
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And yeah
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Martin Reg
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Kahn
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May have
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Written something
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To that effect
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In the star
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I don't know
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If you saw that
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That the
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Ford whisperer
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Has left
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And that
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You know
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There's no one there
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To keep him in line
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Look
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No one can keep
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The guy in line
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He's his own man
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And when he does
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Something like that
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Crown Royal
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It's
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Because he's
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He's pissed off
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From the gut
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Now
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Look
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He's
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He's talking about
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Taking a Canadian
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Made product
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Off the shelves
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Because
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They're going to
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Close one of
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Their facilities
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And it happens
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To be
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In Ontario
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But it's still
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Produced in Quebec
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And Manitoba
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But he's going to
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Punish this company
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He says
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You know
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I think if he does
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Go ahead with that
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It's going to be
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Problematic
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We already took
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Russian
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Vodka off the shelves
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We took American
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Booze off the shelves
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Now we're going to
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Take Canadian
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Whiskey off the
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Shelf
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Sends a very bad
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Message for business
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And investments
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That if you're
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Doing business
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In Ontario
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And you piss off
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The premier
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They're going to
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Use the power
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Of government
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To punish you
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But we'll always
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Have beer
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We have beer
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It's true
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As long as
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They don't
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You know
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Go to the bed
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Yeah
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You know
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So it's
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The cat and dog
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Thing
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Very very popular
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I believe
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Yeah
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And then there was
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One dog
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One doctor
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In Ottawa
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Who made a big
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Fuss
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And said
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Doug Ford
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Scaring me
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And I have to
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Shut down
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My research
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Now
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It's like
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Well what are
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You doing
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And he was
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Experimenting on
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Dogs and cats
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Not in a way
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That hurt them
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He was trying
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He was trying to
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Find ways to
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Make them
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More comfortable
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During surgeries
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And
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Okay I'm
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Pretty sure
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Everyone would
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Agree
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That is a good
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Thing
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These were
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Doctors in
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London Ontario
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Putting dogs
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Into cardiac arrest
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For experiment
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I forget what
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They were
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Why they were
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Doing it
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But they were
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Putting dogs
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Into cardiac arrest
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That was at
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One hospital
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In London
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And that got
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National and
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International attention
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Meanwhile the
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Other hospital
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In London
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Is suing a
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Bunch of their
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Former executives
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For allegedly
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Bilking millions
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Of dollars
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And finally
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Into their own
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Pockets
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Over a decade
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Wow
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That's barely
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Got headlines
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Outside of London
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They put in
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A new administrator
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They have
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Fired like
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20 VPs
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Or something
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The place was
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Being horribly
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Run
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And mismanaged
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And millions
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Of dollars
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From a healthcare
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System disappearing
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And
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Nobody cares
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Dogs
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You're putting
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Dogs in a
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Heart attack mode
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Oh
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Everyone's
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Interested
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So
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Ford's smart
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Enough to
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Know to
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Jump on
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That one
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Yeah
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And he's
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Got great
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Political instincts
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Have served
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Him well
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Until this
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Point
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Mark Carney's
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Political instincts
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Aren't too
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Bad either
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You know
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I was making
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Fun of him
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Or shaking
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My head
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About our
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Budget is
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Going to be
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About austerity
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And investment
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And it's like
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Hey Mark
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That's sucking
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And blowing
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At the same
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Time
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But he's
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Getting away
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With it
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He's flying
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High in the
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Polls
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And
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Pierre
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Polyev's
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Not doing
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It as well
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The NDP
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Is doing
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Terribly
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Return of
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Parliament
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This week
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What do
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You foretell
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Is coming
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Yeah
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So
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Nanos
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Continues
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To have
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Polyev
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And the
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Conservatives
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Way down
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Abacus
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Has it
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Pretty much
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The same
00:17:40.740
As it was
00:17:41.160
On election
00:17:41.640
Night
00:17:41.940
I think
00:17:42.600
Ipsos
00:17:43.000
Ipsos
00:17:43.040
Just came
00:17:43.520
Out
00:17:43.680
With a
00:17:44.020
Six
00:17:44.280
Point
00:17:44.540
Gap
00:17:44.880
Like
00:17:45.060
43
00:17:45.700
To
00:17:45.960
37
00:17:46.460
So
00:17:47.580
Who knows
00:17:48.280
What's
00:17:48.540
Going on
00:17:48.900
With the
00:17:49.160
Polling
00:17:49.480
And I'm
00:17:50.000
Sure
00:17:50.120
Keto
00:17:50.380
Maggie
00:17:50.620
Has some
00:17:51.140
Extraordinary
00:17:52.000
Poll or Frank
00:17:52.640
Graves
00:17:52.900
Has something
00:17:53.340
That nobody's
00:17:53.920
Ever heard of
00:17:54.520
I don't
00:17:57.040
You know me
00:17:58.200
I defend
00:17:58.740
Polling
00:17:59.300
And I
00:18:00.300
I generally
00:18:01.300
Trust it
00:18:01.760
But it's
00:18:02.240
All over
00:18:02.740
The map
00:18:03.100
Right now
00:18:03.540
One thing
00:18:04.140
For sure
00:18:04.480
That Kearney
00:18:04.980
Is
00:18:05.340
Is doing
00:18:06.660
Well
00:18:06.940
And I
00:18:07.220
Hear from
00:18:07.800
The folks
00:18:09.480
That
00:18:09.940
Wanted
00:18:11.340
Trudeau
00:18:11.700
Gone
00:18:12.120
But then
00:18:13.060
Switch back
00:18:13.580
To the
00:18:13.860
Liberals
00:18:14.180
For
00:18:14.620
Kearney
00:18:15.840
You know
00:18:17.080
A lot
00:18:17.380
Of the
00:18:17.680
The folks
00:18:18.560
That
00:18:18.980
Would
00:18:19.720
Ended up
00:18:20.680
Putting him
00:18:21.120
Over the
00:18:21.420
Top
00:18:21.680
I get
00:18:22.080
Lots of
00:18:22.400
Emails
00:18:22.680
From
00:18:22.960
Older
00:18:23.480
Readers
00:18:23.940
And
00:18:24.800
They're
00:18:25.820
Still
00:18:26.060
With
00:18:26.300
Them
00:18:26.460
And
00:18:27.720
They
00:18:28.080
Think
00:18:28.520
That my
00:18:28.940
Criticisms
00:18:30.080
Of him
00:18:30.500
Such as
00:18:30.960
This
00:18:31.120
Major
00:18:31.460
Projects
00:18:32.620
Announcement
00:18:33.100
Where he
00:18:33.340
Announced
00:18:33.580
Five things
00:18:34.260
That are
00:18:34.500
Almost all
00:18:35.020
Completed
00:18:35.620
It's so
00:18:38.920
True
00:18:39.400
It's so
00:18:40.060
True
00:18:40.460
Because he
00:18:41.400
Said we
00:18:41.860
Need to
00:18:42.200
Think big
00:18:43.380
Act bigger
00:18:44.220
And it's
00:18:44.740
Speeds never
00:18:45.260
Seen before
00:18:45.980
And we're
00:18:46.740
Going to
00:18:46.900
Have this
00:18:47.240
Major
00:18:47.520
Projects
00:18:48.180
List
00:18:48.340
And he
00:18:48.580
Puts it
00:18:48.940
Out
00:18:49.100
And it's
00:18:49.320
Like
00:18:49.500
They're
00:18:51.120
Almost all
00:18:51.580
Done
00:18:51.840
I've
00:18:52.440
Seen this
00:18:52.900
Before
00:18:53.200
Where's
00:18:54.040
The big
00:18:54.480
Announcement
00:18:55.400
He's
00:18:56.580
Doing the
00:18:56.940
Opposite
00:18:57.420
Of what
00:18:57.740
Your old
00:18:58.120
Guy
00:18:58.360
Used to
00:18:58.760
Do
00:18:59.040
You know
00:18:59.480
In
00:18:59.740
Politics
00:19:00.180
It's
00:19:00.680
Important
00:19:01.380
To
00:19:01.880
Undersell
00:19:03.080
And over
00:19:03.620
Deliver
00:19:04.040
And he's
00:19:04.680
Overselling
00:19:05.480
And under
00:19:06.080
Delivering
00:19:06.380
And he's
00:19:07.120
In the
00:19:07.360
Paper
00:19:07.600
Too much
00:19:08.100
You know
00:19:08.660
The one
00:19:08.900
Thing I
00:19:09.180
Learned
00:19:09.380
At my
00:19:09.660
Guy's
00:19:10.020
Knee
00:19:10.240
You don't
00:19:10.820
Need to
00:19:11.140
Be in the
00:19:11.460
Paper
00:19:11.720
Every god
00:19:12.260
Damn
00:19:12.500
Day
00:19:12.800
But
00:19:13.120
Kearney
00:19:13.800
Is
00:19:14.280
So we'll
00:19:17.060
See how
00:19:17.480
That plays
00:19:18.280
Out with
00:19:18.720
Parliament
00:19:19.140
Returning
00:19:19.800
He's
00:19:20.620
He's
00:19:21.380
Still being
00:19:21.800
Given the
00:19:22.280
Benefit of
00:19:22.780
The doubt
00:19:23.200
But
00:19:23.840
You know
00:19:25.020
As I've
00:19:25.260
Been saying
00:19:25.620
For a
00:19:25.940
While
00:19:26.120
When you're
00:19:26.600
Promising
00:19:27.100
That much
00:19:27.640
You have
00:19:28.140
To deliver
00:19:28.660
And if
00:19:29.340
You don't
00:19:30.540
Well then
00:19:31.020
People are
00:19:31.980
Going to be
00:19:32.240
Upset
00:19:32.460
Danielle
00:19:32.820
Smith
00:19:33.220
Though
00:19:33.560
I know
00:19:34.620
She's
00:19:35.000
Your
00:19:35.120
Favorite
00:19:35.440
Politician
00:19:35.700
I had
00:19:36.900
A great
00:19:37.580
Weekend
00:19:37.960
With her
00:19:38.320
Last weekend
00:19:39.180
I was in
00:19:39.540
Calgary
00:19:39.880
Today I'm
00:19:40.440
Staring out
00:19:41.680
Over to the
00:19:42.060
Beautiful
00:19:42.380
Beansville
00:19:43.040
Bench in
00:19:43.560
Across Lake
00:19:44.140
Ontario
00:19:44.620
At Toronto
00:19:45.160
But last
00:19:46.800
Week it was
00:19:47.180
With Danielle
00:19:47.620
Smith and
00:19:48.200
She was
00:19:49.040
Telling me
00:19:49.440
Yep we
00:19:49.840
Need a
00:19:50.100
Pipeline
00:19:50.700
We need
00:19:51.700
It to
00:19:51.960
The
00:19:52.120
Northwest
00:19:52.540
Coast
00:19:53.100
She doesn't
00:19:53.640
Believe that
00:19:54.180
Energy East
00:19:54.800
Is feasible
00:19:55.380
Anymore
00:19:56.020
We talked
00:19:56.660
About
00:19:56.880
Churchill
00:19:57.240
And I
00:19:58.800
Thought she
00:19:59.120
Was going
00:19:59.340
To be
00:19:59.520
Furious
00:19:59.980
When
00:20:00.200
Kearney's
00:20:00.620
List
00:20:00.740
Came out
00:20:01.140
There
00:20:01.280
Was no
00:20:01.560
Oil
00:20:01.980
Pipeline
00:20:02.420
On
00:20:02.600
It
00:20:02.740
And
00:20:04.040
She
00:20:05.560
Wasn't
00:20:06.040
She
00:20:06.620
Said
00:20:06.860
Give him
00:20:07.200
Time
00:20:07.500
Let's
00:20:07.980
Be
00:20:08.120
Patient
00:20:08.460
We
00:20:08.780
Had a
00:20:09.080
Great
00:20:09.260
Meeting
00:20:09.580
So
00:20:10.280
She's
00:20:10.640
Giving
00:20:10.880
Him
00:20:11.100
A lot
00:20:11.400
Of
00:20:11.520
Rope
00:20:11.780
Scott
00:20:13.480
Mo
00:20:13.800
Is
00:20:14.120
Off
00:20:14.340
In
00:20:14.520
China
00:20:14.900
With
00:20:15.780
Kearney's
00:20:16.860
Parliamentary
00:20:17.380
Secretary
00:20:17.860
Trying to
00:20:19.260
Deal with
00:20:19.560
The whole
00:20:20.100
Canola
00:20:20.480
Issue
00:20:20.920
So
00:20:21.140
Scott
00:20:21.400
Mo
00:20:21.640
Is
00:20:21.780
Cutting
00:20:22.080
Him
00:20:22.200
Slack
00:20:22.600
Doug
00:20:23.380
Ford
00:20:23.840
Was
00:20:24.540
Actually
00:20:24.900
Even
00:20:25.980
Though
00:20:26.120
A statement
00:20:26.600
Didn't
00:20:26.960
Say
00:20:27.200
It
00:20:27.340
He
00:20:27.700
And
00:20:27.840
His
00:20:28.040
Team
00:20:28.340
Were
00:20:28.820
The
00:20:28.960
Most
00:20:29.160
Pissed
00:20:29.460
Off
00:20:29.660
After
00:20:30.960
The
00:20:31.120
Major
00:20:31.360
Project
00:20:31.800
We're
00:20:32.680
Running
00:20:32.920
Out of
00:20:33.180
Time
00:20:33.360
I
00:20:34.040
Want
00:20:34.240
To
00:20:34.340
Talk
00:20:34.660
About
00:20:34.980
And
00:20:35.220
I
00:20:35.360
You
00:20:35.640
Know
00:20:35.740
I
00:20:35.900
They're
00:20:36.300
Daniel
00:20:36.620
Smith
00:20:36.900
I
00:20:37.060
Never
00:20:37.300
Want
00:20:37.520
To
00:20:37.620
Talk
00:20:37.860
About
00:20:38.100
But
00:20:38.840
I
00:20:41.240
Want
00:20:41.400
To
00:20:41.480
Ask
00:20:41.640
You
00:20:41.720
A
00:20:41.880
Personal
00:20:42.140
Question
00:20:42.620
You
00:20:44.500
Know
00:20:44.740
The
00:20:45.780
Terrible
00:20:46.340
Event
00:20:46.800
This
00:20:47.400
Week
00:20:47.760
Of
00:20:48.280
The
00:20:48.480
Assassination
00:20:49.400
Because
00:20:49.680
That's
00:20:49.940
What
00:20:50.080
It
00:20:50.200
Was
00:20:50.520
Of
00:20:50.720
Charlie
00:20:51.000
Kirk
00:20:51.380
A
00:20:51.620
Young
00:20:51.820
Man
00:20:52.140
Who
00:20:52.780
Just
00:20:52.980
Had
00:20:53.140
Opinions
00:20:53.700
And
00:20:54.380
I
00:20:54.500
Didn't
00:20:54.740
Agree
00:20:55.060
With
00:20:55.520
Many
00:20:55.780
Of
00:20:55.960
His
00:20:56.100
Opinions
00:20:56.660
But
00:20:56.940
I
00:20:57.080
Agreed
00:20:57.460
With
00:20:57.640
His
00:20:58.000
Right
00:20:58.640
To
00:20:59.380
Express
00:20:59.920
Them
00:21:00.320
Terrible
00:21:02.600
Event
00:21:03.000
And
00:21:04.200
You're
00:21:05.400
In
00:21:05.500
The
00:21:05.600
Opinion
00:21:05.920
Business
00:21:06.260
Too
00:21:06.600
And
00:21:07.280
So
00:21:07.440
Am
00:21:07.620
I
00:21:07.840
And
00:21:08.660
You
00:21:08.860
And
00:21:09.000
I
00:21:09.160
Get
00:21:09.520
Threats
00:21:11.100
Or
00:21:11.260
Hints
00:21:11.660
Of
00:21:12.080
Violence
00:21:12.920
Or
00:21:13.320
Worse
00:21:14.320
You
00:21:15.420
Know
00:21:15.560
Semi
00:21:16.000
Regularly
00:21:16.680
And
00:21:16.840
You
00:21:17.040
And
00:21:17.160
I
00:21:17.240
Have
00:21:17.360
Talked
00:21:17.580
About
00:21:17.740
It
00:21:17.820
We
00:21:17.940
Shrugged
00:21:18.360
Them
00:21:18.480
Off
00:21:18.860
And
00:21:19.800
You
00:21:19.920
Know
00:21:20.020
Laugh
00:21:20.360
At
00:21:20.500
Them
00:21:20.640
Or
00:21:20.800
Dismiss
00:21:21.240
Them
00:21:21.440
Or
00:21:21.580
Forget
00:21:21.900
About
00:21:22.240
Them
00:21:22.580
Has
00:21:23.460
This
00:21:23.620
Week's
00:21:23.940
Events
00:21:24.360
Had
00:21:24.940
You
00:21:25.360
Thinking
00:21:25.960
A
00:21:26.180
Little
00:21:26.300
Bit
00:21:26.480
About
00:21:26.720
That
00:21:26.980
And
00:21:27.140
What
00:21:27.300
You
00:21:28.120
And
00:21:28.220
I
00:21:28.340
Experienced
00:21:28.900
Yeah
00:21:30.280
Well
00:21:30.560
You
00:21:30.700
And
00:21:30.820
I
00:21:30.920
Were
00:21:31.040
At
00:21:31.140
The
00:21:31.240
Same
00:21:31.420
Event
00:21:31.740
When
00:21:32.080
The
00:21:32.340
Kirk
00:21:32.540
Shooting
00:21:32.820
Happened
00:21:33.220
We
00:21:33.400
Were
00:21:33.500
The
00:21:33.740
Road
00:21:33.920
Between
00:21:34.280
Us
00:21:34.580
Not
00:21:35.000
Together
00:21:35.340
But
00:21:35.680
We
00:21:35.900
Were
00:21:35.980
Both
00:21:36.220
Watching
00:21:36.560
The
00:21:36.720
Movie
00:21:36.940
And
00:21:37.900
We
00:21:38.040
Had
00:21:38.160
To
00:21:38.260
Run
00:21:38.420
The
00:21:38.540
Gauntlet
00:21:38.900
Of
00:21:39.020
Security
00:21:39.500
To
00:21:39.740
Get
00:21:39.900
In
00:21:40.160
Yeah
00:21:40.740
And
00:21:42.180
But
00:21:42.660
As I
00:21:43.380
Said
00:21:43.540
Last
00:21:43.840
Week
00:21:44.080
I
00:21:44.200
Was
00:21:44.320
Sitting
00:21:44.560
On
00:21:44.740
The
00:21:44.860
Stage
00:21:45.260
In
00:21:47.440
Front
00:21:47.660
Of
00:21:47.780
A
00:21:47.980
Big
00:21:48.420
Audience
00:21:48.860
At
00:21:49.080
A
00:21:49.360
Political
00:21:50.280
Event
00:21:50.640
You
00:21:51.500
Know
00:21:51.600
Someone
00:21:51.940
Could
00:21:52.260
Do
00:21:52.440
That
00:21:52.660
To
00:21:52.860
Me
00:21:53.040
And
00:21:53.360
People
00:21:53.940
Want
00:21:54.200
To
00:21:54.280
They
00:21:54.440
Call
00:21:54.700
Me
00:21:54.840
The
00:21:55.000
Same
00:21:55.180
Names
00:21:55.480
As
00:21:55.620
They
00:21:55.740
Called
00:21:55.920
Charlie
00:21:56.260
Kirk
00:21:56.560
Nazi
00:21:57.520
Fascist
00:21:58.520
You
00:21:59.980
Know
00:22:00.100
Just
00:22:00.340
Like
00:22:00.540
Him
00:22:00.740
I
00:22:00.860
Get
00:22:01.000
Accused
00:22:01.360
Of
00:22:01.480
Being
00:22:01.680
A
00:22:01.880
White
00:22:02.060
Supremacist
00:22:02.940
Or
00:22:03.460
Homophobic
00:22:04.520
And
00:22:05.560
None
00:22:06.420
Of
00:22:06.540
Those
00:22:06.720
Things
00:22:06.960
Were
00:22:07.160
True
00:22:07.360
About
00:22:07.640
Kirk
00:22:08.220
And
00:22:08.520
They
00:22:08.640
Are
00:22:08.880
Not
00:22:09.180
True
00:22:09.400
About
00:22:09.620
Me
00:22:09.800
I
00:22:09.940
Mean
00:22:10.060
You
00:22:10.080
Had
00:22:10.320
Stephen
00:22:15.260
He
00:22:15.540
Never
00:22:15.780
Said
00:22:16.080
It
00:22:16.300
And
00:22:17.300
So
00:22:18.540
You
00:22:18.660
Got
00:22:18.840
People
00:22:19.080
Like
00:22:19.260
Dave
00:22:19.540
Rubin
00:22:19.940
A
00:22:20.840
Gay
00:22:21.160
Jewish
00:22:21.460
Man
00:22:21.800
Defending
00:22:22.780
Him
00:22:22.920
And
00:22:23.060
Saying
00:22:23.240
Well
00:22:23.540
He
00:22:23.640
Was
00:22:23.760
At
00:22:23.900
My
00:22:24.080
House
00:22:24.320
With
00:22:24.520
My
00:22:24.680
Husband
00:22:25.100
And
00:22:25.320
I
00:22:25.600
So
00:22:26.600
I
00:22:26.860
Don't
00:22:27.120
Think
00:22:27.380
He's
00:22:27.600
Any
00:22:27.760
Of
00:22:27.940
Those
00:22:28.200
Things
00:22:28.520
But
00:22:30.220
We
00:22:31.260
Get
00:22:31.500
That
00:22:31.720
Thrown
00:22:32.020
At
00:22:32.160
Us
00:22:32.360
And
00:22:32.520
So
00:22:32.760
I
00:22:33.800
Put
00:22:33.980
Out
00:22:34.100
My
00:22:34.300
Column
00:22:34.780
Saying
00:22:35.060
Stop
00:22:35.400
Calling
00:22:35.680
People
00:22:36.000
You
00:22:36.140
Disagree
00:22:36.480
With
00:22:36.660
Politically
00:22:37.100
Nazis
00:22:37.520
And
00:22:38.520
The
00:22:38.720
Response
00:22:39.140
Was
00:22:39.380
Well
00:22:39.560
You
00:22:39.720
Are
00:22:39.920
Nazis
00:22:40.320
So
00:22:40.600
We're
00:22:40.800
Going
00:22:40.900
To
00:22:40.980
Keep
00:22:41.120
Calling
00:22:41.400
You
00:22:41.560
That
00:22:41.800
Or
00:22:42.080
Commies
00:22:42.580
Like
00:22:42.840
This
00:22:43.680
Week
00:22:44.000
I
00:22:44.440
Defended
00:22:44.900
Catherine
00:22:45.380
McKenna
00:22:45.980
Who
00:22:46.260
I
00:22:46.340
Discreed
00:22:46.780
On
00:22:46.900
A
00:22:47.020
Lot
00:22:47.180
Of
00:22:47.280
Things
00:22:47.600
And
00:22:48.200
I
00:22:48.300
Got
00:22:48.480
Called
00:22:48.780
A
00:22:49.000
Communist
00:22:49.460
And
00:22:50.100
A
00:22:50.200
Pedophile
00:22:50.800
And
00:22:51.000
A
00:22:51.140
Fag
00:22:51.580
And
00:22:52.220
Then
00:22:52.380
I
00:22:52.540
Defend
00:22:52.960
Charlie
00:22:53.580
Kirk
00:22:54.020
And
00:22:54.640
I
00:22:54.740
Get
00:22:54.860
Called
00:22:55.100
A
00:22:55.260
Fascist
00:22:55.820
And
00:22:55.980
A
00:22:56.100
Nazi
00:22:56.460
Like
00:22:56.980
It's
00:22:57.180
Like
00:22:57.340
Fuck
00:22:57.780
Like
00:22:58.160
What
00:22:58.340
Does
00:22:58.500
Matter
00:22:58.920
With
00:22:59.160
You
00:22:59.360
People
00:22:59.800
Oh
00:23:00.620
Yeah
00:23:00.740
And
00:23:00.860
I
00:23:01.180
Get
00:23:01.660
Attacks
00:23:02.220
From
00:23:02.360
The
00:23:02.500
Far
00:23:02.680
Right
00:23:02.920
As
00:23:03.120
Well
00:23:03.360
And
00:23:03.540
I
00:23:04.180
Agreed
00:23:04.640
With
00:23:04.780
What
00:23:04.960
You
00:23:05.080
Said
00:23:05.520
That
00:23:07.380
The
00:23:08.340
Hints
00:23:08.860
Of
00:23:09.020
Violence
00:23:09.400
Or
00:23:09.560
The
00:23:09.660
Threats
00:23:09.940
Of
00:23:10.040
Violence
00:23:10.440
Tend
00:23:11.500
To
00:23:11.640
Come
00:23:11.820
More
00:23:12.020
From
00:23:12.200
The
00:23:12.340
Far
00:23:12.520
Left
00:23:12.820
Than
00:23:12.980
The
00:23:13.100
Far
00:23:13.300
Right
00:23:13.560
And
00:23:13.800
The
00:23:13.900
Far
00:23:14.080
Right
00:23:14.260
Does
00:23:14.440
Not
00:23:14.660
Like
00:23:14.940
Me
00:23:15.160
Apparently
00:23:16.400
I'm
00:23:16.620
A
00:23:16.780
Leader
00:23:17.000
Of
00:23:17.220
The
00:23:17.360
Far
00:23:17.540
Right
00:23:17.800
That's
00:23:18.740
Muse
00:23:18.960
To
00:23:19.100
Them
00:23:19.300
They
00:23:19.460
Don't
00:23:19.680
Like
00:23:19.940
Me
00:23:20.180
We
00:23:22.400
We've
00:23:22.900
Got
00:23:23.080
To
00:23:23.200
Calm
00:23:23.440
Down
00:23:23.740
There's
00:23:23.980
A
00:23:24.260
Great
00:23:24.660
Phrase
00:23:25.880
That
00:23:26.040
I
00:23:26.140
Heard
00:23:26.360
Years
00:23:26.660
Ago
00:23:27.000
And
00:23:27.200
I
00:23:27.320
Tried
00:23:27.840
To
00:23:28.040
You
00:23:28.780
Know
00:23:28.940
One
00:23:29.700
Of
00:23:29.780
My
00:23:29.980
Sons
00:23:30.480
Is
00:23:30.660
Really
00:23:30.860
Into
00:23:31.040
Politics
00:23:31.460
And
00:23:31.660
I
00:23:31.760
Tried
00:23:31.940
To
00:23:32.040
Instill
00:23:32.400
It
00:23:32.500
With
00:23:32.660
Him
00:23:32.980
As
00:23:33.200
You
00:23:33.340
Know
00:23:33.600
He
00:23:33.780
Was
00:23:34.020
Growing
00:23:34.480
Up
00:23:34.760
And
00:23:34.900
Talking
00:23:35.240
About
00:23:35.480
These
00:23:35.700
Things
00:23:35.980
I
00:23:36.180
Said
00:23:36.400
They're
00:23:37.120
Not
00:23:37.380
Evil
00:23:37.880
They're
00:23:38.600
Just
00:23:38.780
Wrong
00:23:39.060
If
00:23:39.340
You
00:23:39.400
Disagree
00:23:39.720
With
00:23:39.880
Someone
00:23:40.080
They're
00:23:41.520
Your
00:23:41.640
Political
00:23:42.160
Opponent
00:23:42.660
Not
00:23:42.980
Your
00:23:43.140
Political
00:23:43.520
Enemy
00:23:44.000
Yeah
00:23:44.500
So
00:23:46.400
True
00:23:46.760
So
00:23:47.460
True
00:23:47.820
And
00:23:48.320
Just
00:23:48.800
I've
00:23:54.660
We
00:23:55.520
Agree
00:23:55.820
On
00:23:56.040
A
00:23:56.160
Lot
00:23:56.300
Of
00:23:56.400
Things
00:23:56.620
You're
00:23:57.680
Going
00:23:57.760
To
00:23:57.860
Agree
00:23:58.460
With
00:23:58.640
Each
00:23:58.840
Other
00:23:59.060
More
00:24:00.080
Than
00:24:00.220
You
00:24:00.380
Disagree
00:24:00.900
We're
00:24:01.420
Still
00:24:01.620
Canadians
00:24:02.100
We're
00:24:02.320
Still
00:24:02.500
Humans
00:24:02.960
So
00:24:04.520
It's
00:24:05.260
Been
00:24:05.680
A
00:24:05.820
Tough
00:24:06.020
Week
00:24:06.300
I'll
00:24:06.980
Admit
00:24:07.200
That
00:24:07.400
I've
00:24:07.740
Spent
00:24:08.340
Some
00:24:08.660
Time
00:24:09.480
In
00:24:09.620
A
00:24:09.760
Deep
00:24:10.280
Funk
00:24:10.620
Worried
00:24:12.160
About
00:24:12.300
The
00:24:12.440
Future
00:24:12.680
Of
00:24:12.800
The
00:24:12.860
Country
00:24:13.060
I
00:24:13.180
Also
00:24:13.280
Worried
00:24:13.620
About
00:24:13.840
Myself
00:24:14.300
Yeah
00:24:14.940
Reflecting
00:24:16.040
On
00:24:16.260
Yeah
00:24:16.900
Because
00:24:17.220
Guys
00:24:17.680
Like
00:24:17.920
You
00:24:18.100
And
00:24:18.240
I
00:24:18.380
We
00:24:18.560
Put
00:24:18.760
I
00:24:19.360
Guess
00:24:19.520
We
00:24:19.660
Put
00:24:19.840
Targets
00:24:20.240
On
00:24:20.380
Our
00:24:20.480
Back
00:24:20.700
But
00:24:20.880
We
00:24:21.020
Think
00:24:21.260
That
00:24:21.500
Whatever
00:24:22.180
We
00:24:22.500
Face
00:24:22.820
Is
00:24:23.000
Going
00:24:23.160
To
00:24:23.240
Be
00:24:23.360
Rhetorical
00:24:24.040
But
00:24:24.280
In
00:24:24.440
The
00:24:24.640
Tragic
00:24:25.120
Case
00:24:25.460
Of
00:24:25.640
Charlie
00:24:25.960
Kirk
00:24:26.320
He
00:24:27.160
Was
00:24:27.360
In
00:24:27.520
The
00:24:27.660
Real
00:24:27.840
World
00:24:28.120
It
00:24:28.400
Really
00:24:28.660
Happened
00:24:29.060
To
00:24:29.220
We
00:24:30.040
Had
00:24:30.280
A
00:24:30.400
Prof
00:24:30.660
And
00:24:30.760
I'll
00:24:31.120
Make
00:24:31.300
This
00:24:31.480
The
00:24:31.620
Last
00:24:31.860
Point
00:24:32.180
That
00:24:32.960
Prof
00:24:33.300
At
00:24:33.440
U of
00:24:33.700
T
00:24:33.920
Who
00:24:34.800
Said
00:24:35.060
Shooting
00:24:35.420
Is
00:24:35.640
Too
00:24:35.820
Good
00:24:36.060
For
00:24:36.240
You
00:24:36.460
Fascist
00:24:36.980
Cunts
00:24:37.420
Yeah
00:24:37.900
Had
00:24:38.560
Just
00:24:38.800
Days
00:24:39.040
Before
00:24:39.400
Declared
00:24:40.200
Post
00:24:40.500
Media
00:24:40.780
A
00:24:41.160
Fascist
00:24:41.760
Organization
00:24:42.500
So
00:24:43.380
She
00:24:43.620
Thinks
00:24:44.000
Shooting
00:24:44.360
Is
00:24:44.520
Too
00:24:44.680
Good
00:24:45.040
For
00:24:45.780
Fascists
00:24:46.480
And
00:24:47.020
We're
00:24:47.860
Fascists
00:24:48.400
Because
00:24:48.620
We
00:24:48.800
Work
00:24:49.140
With
00:24:49.280
Post
00:24:49.540
Media
00:24:49.900
Does
00:24:51.220
She
00:24:51.340
Think
00:24:51.540
We
00:24:51.680
Should
00:24:51.820
Be
00:24:51.960
Shot
00:24:52.320
I
00:24:52.680
Think
00:24:53.040
It's
00:24:53.200
A
00:24:53.300
Logical
00:24:53.700
Conclusion
00:24:54.260
To
00:24:54.520
Say
00:24:54.720
That
00:24:54.920
She
00:24:55.100
Is
00:24:55.280
Threatening
00:24:55.660
Violence
00:24:56.180
Of
00:24:56.380
People
00:24:56.720
And
00:24:57.200
She's
00:24:57.460
Still
00:24:57.660
Getting
00:24:57.940
A
00:24:58.140
Paycheck
00:24:58.580
Folks
00:24:58.960
From
00:24:59.240
The
00:24:59.440
University
00:24:59.880
Of
00:25:00.140
Toronto
00:25:00.460
For
00:25:01.260
Now
00:25:01.600
I
00:25:02.220
Say
00:25:02.680
Watch
00:25:03.080
That
00:25:03.340
One
00:25:03.620
Watch
00:25:04.260
It
00:25:04.400
Closely
00:25:04.820
She
00:25:05.320
I
00:25:05.520
Believe
00:25:05.860
That
00:25:06.060
She
00:25:06.200
Crossed
00:25:06.600
A
00:25:06.700
Legal
00:25:07.060
Line
00:25:07.500
That
00:25:07.780
Will
00:25:08.420
Allow
00:25:08.680
The
00:25:08.880
University
00:25:09.340
To
00:25:09.600
Say
00:25:09.860
You're
00:25:10.660
No
00:25:10.800
Longer
00:25:11.140
Interemployed
00:25:11.920
But
00:25:12.060
We'll
00:25:12.220
Have
00:25:12.360
To
00:25:12.460
Wait
00:25:12.600
And
00:25:12.720
See
00:25:12.880
Good
00:25:13.300
Good
00:25:13.920
Okay
00:25:14.700
Well
00:25:14.880
Listen
00:25:15.100
Brother
00:25:15.400
Be
00:25:15.740
Safe
00:25:16.100
And
00:25:17.000
Thank
00:25:17.440
You
00:25:17.700
For
00:25:18.080
Your
00:25:18.280
Opinions
00:25:18.920
When
00:25:19.520
You
00:25:19.980
And
00:25:20.120
I
00:25:20.260
May
00:25:20.640
Disagree
00:25:21.240
On
00:25:21.560
Opinions
00:25:22.180
And
00:25:22.360
All
00:25:22.500
That
00:25:22.660
Stuff
00:25:22.920
But
00:25:23.400
Who
00:25:23.560
Cares
00:25:23.840
We're
00:25:24.080
Still
00:25:24.280
Great
00:25:24.600
Friends
00:25:25.000
And
00:25:25.520
We
00:25:25.640
Always
00:25:25.880
Will
00:25:26.100
So
00:25:26.560
Thank
00:25:26.860
You
00:25:27.060
Thank
00:25:27.880
You
00:25:28.060
In
00:25:37.240
This
00:25:37.540
Sturdy
00:25:37.980
Old
00:25:38.220
Part
00:25:38.800
Of
00:25:39.320
The
00:25:39.520
City
00:25:40.000
Where
00:25:41.320
The
00:25:41.540
Sun
00:25:41.980
Refused
00:25:43.020
To
00:25:43.280
Shine
00:25:43.820
People
00:25:45.440
Tell
00:25:45.880
Me
00:25:46.080
They
00:25:46.600
Ain't
00:25:47.200
No
00:25:47.480
Use
00:25:48.160
In
00:25:48.460
Trying
00:25:49.080
Now
00:25:53.360
My
00:25:53.640
Girl
00:25:53.980
You're
00:25:54.260
So
00:25:54.580
Young
00:25:55.400
And
00:25:55.600
Pretty
00:25:55.940
And
00:25:57.300
One
00:25:57.680
Thing
00:25:58.180
I
00:25:58.480
Know
00:25:58.960
Is
00:25:59.240
True
00:25:59.800
You're
00:26:01.100
Gonna
00:26:01.360
Die
00:26:01.960
Before
00:26:02.560
Your
00:26:03.340
Time
00:26:03.980
Is
00:26:04.220
Due
00:26:04.540
I
00:26:05.240
Know
00:26:05.780
It
00:26:06.160
Watch
00:26:09.040
My
00:26:09.280
Mama
00:26:09.720
In
00:26:10.080
Bed
00:26:11.100
Down
00:26:11.860
Watch
00:26:13.000
Her
00:26:13.200
Hair
00:26:13.600
Been
00:26:14.040
Turning
00:26:14.540
Grand
00:26:15.260
She's
00:26:16.800
Been
00:26:17.020
Walking
00:26:17.400
And
00:26:17.760
Slaving
00:26:18.480
Her
00:26:18.920
Life
00:26:19.580
Away
00:26:20.240
Yes
00:26:21.160
I
00:26:21.520
Know
00:26:22.160
It
00:26:22.800
She's
00:26:26.360
Been
00:26:26.620
Working
00:26:27.080
So
00:26:27.540
Hard
00:26:28.200
I
00:26:30.880
Been
00:26:31.400
Working
00:26:31.920
Too
00:26:32.340
Baby
00:26:32.780
Every
00:26:34.120
Night
00:26:34.740
And
00:26:35.120
Day
00:26:35.580
Yeah
00:26:36.760
Yeah
00:26:36.860
Yeah
00:26:37.860
Yeah
00:26:38.700
We've
00:26:39.960
Gotta
00:26:40.460
Get
00:26:40.920
Out
00:26:41.420
Of
00:26:41.620
This
00:26:41.820
Place
00:26:42.540
If
00:26:43.560
It's
00:26:43.780
The
00:26:44.000
Last
00:26:44.380
Thing
00:26:44.680
We
00:26:44.920
Ever
00:26:45.500
Do
00:26:46.100
We
00:26:47.480
Gotta
00:26:48.060
Get
00:26:48.520
Out
00:26:48.980
Of
00:26:49.140
This
00:26:49.400
Space
00:26:50.020
Cause
00:26:50.540
Girl
00:26:51.080
Has
00:26:51.380
A
00:26:51.540
Better
00:26:51.880
Life
00:26:52.980
For
00:26:53.380
Me
00:26:53.800
And
00:26:54.140
You
00:26:54.440
Now
00:27:02.420
My
00:27:02.800
Girl
00:27:03.180
You're
00:27:03.480
So
00:27:03.780
Young
00:27:04.580
And
00:27:04.840
Pretty
00:27:05.180
And
00:27:06.460
One
00:27:06.840
Thing
00:27:07.360
I
00:27:07.620
Know
00:27:08.060
Is
00:27:08.380
True
00:27:08.840
Yeah
00:27:09.360
You're
00:27:10.200
Gonna
00:27:10.480
Die
00:27:11.080
Before
00:27:11.840
Your
00:27:12.480
Time
00:27:13.120
Is
00:27:13.320
Due
00:27:13.780
I
00:27:14.540
Know
00:27:14.860
It
00:27:15.260
Watch
00:27:18.160
My
00:27:18.400
Mama
00:27:18.820
In
00:27:19.180
Bed
00:27:20.240
And
00:27:20.460
Yeah
00:27:20.900
Watch
00:27:22.040
Her
00:27:22.300
Hair
00:27:22.720
Been
00:27:23.100
Turn
00:27:23.640
In
00:27:24.020
Grey
00:27:24.460
She's
00:27:25.980
Been
00:27:26.160
Working
00:27:26.580
And
00:27:26.920
Slaven
00:27:27.580
Her
00:27:28.080
Life
00:27:28.780
Away
00:27:29.440
You
00:27:30.240
Know
00:27:30.460
She's
00:27:30.840
Been
00:27:31.020
Working
00:27:31.500
So
00:27:31.980
Long
00:27:32.540
I
00:27:34.460
Been
00:27:34.840
Working
00:27:35.360
Too
00:27:35.860
Baby
00:27:36.400
Every
00:27:38.020
Day
00:27:38.620
Baby
00:27:39.120
Oh
00:27:41.240
We've
00:27:49.120
Gotta
00:27:49.640
Get
00:27:50.140
Out
00:27:50.640
Of
00:27:50.860
This
00:27:51.060
Place
00:27:51.760
If
00:27:52.740
It's
00:27:52.980
The
00:27:53.200
Last
00:27:53.620
Thing
00:27:53.920
We
00:27:54.180
Ever
00:27:54.720
Do
00:27:55.520
We've
00:27:56.820
Gotta
00:27:57.320
Get
00:27:57.760
Out
00:27:58.220
Of
00:27:58.460
This
00:27:58.660
Place
00:27:59.300
Girl
00:28:00.220
There's
00:28:00.620
A
00:28:00.820
Better
00:28:01.100
Life
00:28:02.160
For
00:28:02.600
Me
00:28:03.100
Than
00:28:03.400
You
00:28:03.900
Somehow
00:28:08.540
I
00:28:09.000
Know
00:28:09.500
So
00:28:37.440
I
00:28:37.880
Want
00:28:38.180
To
00:28:38.440
Bring
00:28:39.000
Into
00:28:39.360
This
00:28:39.600
Conversation
00:28:40.340
Another
00:28:40.780
Friend
00:28:41.340
Of
00:28:41.520
This
00:28:41.720
Show
00:28:41.960
Warren
00:28:42.280
Kinsella
00:28:42.840
Political
00:28:43.400
Commentator
00:28:44.040
We've
00:28:44.340
Had
00:28:44.480
Warren
00:28:44.800
On
00:28:45.040
The
00:28:45.180
Program
00:28:45.580
Many
00:28:46.420
Times
00:28:46.940
I
00:28:48.040
Think
00:28:48.220
All
00:28:48.480
Political
00:28:48.960
Commentators
00:28:49.700
Knowing
00:28:50.060
That's
00:28:50.400
What
00:28:50.540
Charlie
00:28:50.880
Kirk
00:28:51.180
Was
00:28:51.660
Is
00:28:51.860
A
00:28:51.960
Political
00:28:52.220
Commentator
00:28:52.700
I
00:28:52.840
Think
00:28:52.980
All
00:28:53.220
Political
00:28:53.600
Commentators
00:28:54.320
Are
00:28:56.040
Taking
00:28:56.400
This
00:28:56.680
Seriously
00:28:57.140
And
00:28:57.560
Are
00:28:57.720
Watching
00:28:58.140
This
00:28:58.500
And
00:28:58.680
Have
00:28:58.880
Thoughts
00:28:59.240
On
00:28:59.380
This
00:28:59.620
And
00:29:00.160
Warren
00:29:00.400
Kinsella
00:29:00.820
Will
00:29:01.000
Be
00:29:01.120
No
00:29:01.300
Different
00:29:01.600
Warren
00:29:01.900
Thank
00:29:02.260
You
00:29:02.360
For
00:29:02.480
Taking
00:29:02.700
Our
00:29:07.440
Your
00:29:07.920
Thoughts
00:29:08.380
On
00:29:08.600
What
00:29:08.800
We
00:29:08.980
Saw
00:29:09.200
Play
00:29:09.460
Out
00:29:09.620
In
00:29:09.760
Utah
00:29:10.000
Yesterday
00:29:10.520
Well
00:29:12.040
At
00:29:12.580
One
00:29:12.820
Level
00:29:13.160
You
00:29:13.900
Know
00:29:14.060
I
00:29:14.240
Feel
00:29:14.600
It
00:29:14.780
Personally
00:29:15.200
While
00:29:15.540
I
00:29:15.720
Disagreed
00:29:16.320
With
00:29:16.500
Mr.
00:29:16.900
Kirk
00:29:17.160
On
00:29:17.360
Many
00:29:17.580
Things
00:29:17.960
You
00:29:18.180
Know
00:29:18.340
From
00:29:18.720
Blacks
00:29:20.020
To
00:29:20.200
Gays
00:29:20.620
To
00:29:20.900
You
00:29:21.320
Name
00:29:21.620
It
00:29:21.860
He
00:29:23.420
Is
00:29:24.680
Kind
00:29:24.920
Of
00:29:25.040
In
00:29:25.180
The
00:29:25.320
Same
00:29:25.520
Business
00:29:25.940
That
00:29:26.260
You
00:29:26.440
And
00:29:26.600
I
00:29:26.760
Are
00:29:26.920
In
00:29:27.140
Which
00:29:27.640
Is
00:29:27.940
Putting
00:29:28.280
Our
00:29:28.500
There
00:29:29.440
And
00:29:29.800
Expressing
00:29:30.740
An
00:29:30.880
Opinion
00:29:31.320
And
00:29:32.620
He
00:29:33.940
Was
00:29:34.160
Killed
00:29:34.460
For
00:29:34.780
It
00:29:34.940
He
00:29:35.160
Was
00:29:35.360
Murdered
00:29:36.040
For
00:29:37.200
An
00:29:37.420
Idea
00:29:37.900
And
00:29:39.240
For
00:29:39.720
Just
00:29:39.980
Expressing
00:29:40.980
An
00:29:41.160
Idea
00:29:41.620
Peacefully
00:29:43.020
And
00:29:43.860
If
00:29:44.080
You
00:29:44.180
Look
00:29:44.380
On
00:29:44.540
The
00:29:44.680
Internet
00:29:45.080
And
00:29:46.020
It
00:29:47.040
Will
00:29:47.140
Turn
00:29:47.380
Your
00:29:47.560
Stomach
00:29:48.000
If
00:29:48.200
You
00:29:48.340
Do
00:29:48.620
You
00:29:49.120
Will
00:29:49.280
See
00:29:49.600
All
00:29:50.220
Across
00:29:50.660
The
00:29:50.900
Internet
00:29:51.360
Including
00:29:52.200
In
00:29:52.440
Supposedly
00:29:53.040
Peaceful
00:29:53.540
Places
00:29:53.980
Like
00:29:54.240
Blue
00:29:54.580
Sky
00:29:54.980
People
00:29:55.900
Celebrating
00:29:56.700
His
00:29:57.120
Death
00:29:57.560
And
00:29:58.200
Calling
00:29:58.560
For
00:29:58.840
Other
00:29:59.080
People
00:29:59.480
Like
00:29:59.740
Ben
00:30:00.000
Shapiro
00:30:00.620
Or
00:30:00.880
J.K.
00:30:01.420
Rowling
00:30:01.860
To
00:30:02.540
Also
00:30:02.800
Be
00:30:03.040
Assassinated
00:30:03.840
So
00:30:04.880
We're
00:30:06.260
In
00:30:06.420
An
00:30:06.580
Era
00:30:06.920
My
00:30:07.460
Friend
00:30:07.760
Where
00:30:08.340
It
00:30:09.400
Is
00:30:09.620
Become
00:30:10.040
Legitimized
00:30:10.960
To
00:30:11.280
Express
00:30:11.980
Support
00:30:12.780
For
00:30:13.040
Extreme
00:30:13.600
Violence
00:30:14.200
Because
00:30:15.140
Of
00:30:15.340
Ideas
00:30:16.040
Against
00:30:16.660
Somebody
00:30:17.560
Just
00:30:17.860
Expressing
00:30:18.420
In
00:30:18.520
Their
00:30:18.660
Opinion
00:30:19.080
And
00:30:19.480
Not
00:30:19.660
Somebody
00:30:20.240
With
00:30:20.560
Power
00:30:21.140
In
00:30:21.640
A
00:30:21.800
Political
00:30:22.260
Sense
00:30:22.860
Not
00:30:23.460
A
00:30:23.620
Politician
00:30:24.200
Just
00:30:24.780
A
00:30:25.000
Citizen
00:30:25.420
Expressing
00:30:26.460
A
00:30:26.620
Point
00:30:26.860
Of
00:30:27.000
View
00:30:27.220
Gets
00:30:28.100
Murdered
00:30:28.680
We're
00:30:29.580
Chatting
00:30:29.840
With
00:30:30.000
Warren
00:30:30.280
Kinsella
00:30:30.780
Today
00:30:31.140
You
00:30:31.820
Know
00:30:31.880
I
00:30:32.020
Can't
00:30:32.240
Help
00:30:32.400
But
00:30:32.520
Think
00:30:32.660
I
00:30:32.760
Mean
00:30:32.860
We
00:30:33.020
Don't
00:30:33.320
Know
00:30:33.640
Officially
00:30:34.120
They
00:30:34.300
Haven't
00:30:34.580
Caught
00:30:34.820
The
00:30:35.040
Suspect
00:30:35.420
Yet
00:30:35.720
We
00:30:35.900
Don't
00:30:36.100
Know
00:30:36.260
Officially
00:30:36.740
What
00:30:37.060
The
00:30:37.260
Motivation
00:30:37.960
Is
00:30:38.240
Behind
00:30:38.660
This
00:30:39.020
But
00:30:39.760
I
00:30:40.540
Mean
00:30:40.660
This
00:30:40.860
This
00:30:41.140
Is
00:30:41.340
A
00:30:41.480
Political
00:30:41.860
Assassination
00:30:42.680
There's
00:30:42.940
No
00:30:43.100
Question
00:30:43.480
About
00:30:43.800
That
00:30:44.140
Is
00:30:44.940
Is
00:30:44.960
Is
00:30:44.980
Is
00:30:45.000
There
00:30:45.200
A
00:30:45.420
Link
00:30:45.840
Between
00:30:46.760
Toxic
00:30:48.020
Political
00:30:48.560
Political
00:30:48.580
Language
00:30:49.320
And
00:30:49.980
Demonizing
00:30:50.720
Opponents
00:30:51.260
Which
00:30:51.480
I
00:30:51.600
Think
00:30:51.760
We've
00:30:52.000
Seen
00:30:52.240
Happen
00:30:52.680
It's
00:30:53.160
Happening
00:30:53.460
Worldwide
00:30:54.020
But
00:30:54.200
Certainly
00:30:54.500
South
00:30:54.840
Of
00:30:54.980
The
00:30:55.100
Border
00:30:55.360
Predominantly
00:30:56.560
And
00:30:57.500
Violent
00:30:58.000
Acts
00:30:58.340
Like
00:30:58.580
We
00:30:58.740
Saw
00:30:58.980
Yesterday
00:30:59.420
Absolutely
00:31:00.880
There's
00:31:01.300
A link
00:31:01.640
And
00:31:01.820
You
00:31:01.940
Don't
00:31:02.100
Even
00:31:02.280
Have
00:31:02.540
To
00:31:02.660
Look
00:31:02.820
South
00:31:03.120
Of
00:31:03.260
The
00:31:03.380
Border
00:31:03.680
You
00:31:04.320
Just
00:31:04.520
Have
00:31:04.720
To
00:31:04.820
Look
00:31:05.000
In
00:31:05.120
Your
00:31:05.240
History
00:31:05.600
Books
00:31:06.020
You
00:31:06.700
Know
00:31:06.920
In
00:31:07.280
Germany
00:31:07.740
In
00:31:08.020
Berlin
00:31:08.380
In
00:31:08.740
1933
00:31:09.620
When
00:31:10.660
The
00:31:10.800
Nazis
00:31:11.140
Started
00:31:11.660
To
00:31:12.280
Characterize
00:31:13.880
Jews
00:31:14.460
As
00:31:15.040
Vermin
00:31:15.600
And
00:31:16.020
Rats
00:31:16.620
And
00:31:17.080
Parasites
00:31:17.940
So
00:31:18.700
Basically
00:31:19.160
Expressing
00:31:20.820
The
00:31:21.040
View
00:31:21.440
That
00:31:22.140
They
00:31:22.280
Weren't
00:31:22.580
Human
00:31:23.000
We're
00:31:23.660
Seeing
00:31:23.960
More
00:31:24.340
And
00:31:24.500
More
00:31:24.740
Of
00:31:24.920
That
00:31:25.240
These
00:31:25.920
Days
00:31:26.320
Because
00:31:26.720
It's
00:31:27.020
Been
00:31:27.300
Turbocharged
00:31:29.200
By
00:31:29.420
The
00:31:29.620
Internet
00:31:30.000
You
00:31:30.640
Know
00:31:30.740
You've
00:31:30.960
Got
00:31:31.120
People
00:31:31.520
Out
00:31:31.900
There
00:31:32.120
Now
00:31:32.360
Saying
00:31:32.720
Things
00:31:33.280
Anonymously
00:31:34.520
That
00:31:35.260
They
00:31:35.400
Would
00:31:35.580
Never
00:31:35.800
Say
00:31:36.080
In
00:31:36.260
Public
00:31:36.620
With
00:31:36.900
Their
00:31:37.060
Own
00:31:37.300
Name
00:31:37.620
With
00:31:37.860
Their
00:31:38.000
Own
00:31:38.180
Face
00:31:38.640
And
00:31:39.400
Dehumanizing
00:31:40.860
Other
00:31:41.360
Humans
00:31:42.000
And
00:31:42.780
The
00:31:42.900
Consequence
00:31:43.680
Of
00:31:43.860
That
00:31:44.200
Is
00:31:44.940
Is
00:31:45.300
Not
00:31:45.540
All
00:31:45.800
Not
00:31:46.140
Just
00:31:46.340
A
00:31:46.540
Destabilized
00:31:47.380
Society
00:31:47.900
It's
00:31:48.220
Not
00:31:48.420
Just
00:31:48.700
A
00:31:49.020
Democracy
00:31:49.620
That's
00:31:50.020
In
00:31:50.180
Peril
00:31:50.600
It's
00:31:51.340
Literally
00:31:51.720
Violence
00:31:52.520
And
00:31:52.900
That's
00:31:53.140
What
00:31:53.300
We
00:31:53.480
Saw
00:31:53.720
Yesterday
00:31:54.060
And
00:31:54.380
Today
00:31:54.960
Is
00:31:55.220
The
00:31:55.380
Anniversary
00:31:55.960
Of
00:31:56.680
Another
00:31:57.000
Day
00:31:57.440
You
00:31:58.020
Know
00:31:58.180
When
00:31:58.540
3000
00:31:59.000
Americans
00:31:59.920
And
00:32:00.260
Canadians
00:32:00.740
And
00:32:01.060
Others
00:32:01.340
Were
00:32:02.060
Killed
00:32:02.500
At
00:32:03.020
The
00:32:03.260
Twin
00:32:03.540
Towers
00:32:04.100
Basically
00:32:05.220
Because
00:32:05.720
Some
00:32:06.680
Lunatics
00:32:07.300
In
00:32:07.660
The
00:32:07.780
Middle
00:32:08.000
East
00:32:08.320
Objected
00:32:08.960
To
00:32:09.140
The
00:32:09.280
Ideas
00:32:09.860
Of
00:32:10.020
The
00:32:10.120
People
00:32:10.500
Who
00:32:11.220
Were
00:32:11.360
Found
00:32:11.680
In
00:32:11.840
Those
00:32:12.480
Buildings
00:32:13.000
So
00:32:13.660
This
00:32:14.160
Isn't
00:32:15.660
Something
00:32:15.980
New
00:32:16.380
It's
00:32:16.800
Something
00:32:17.040
That's
00:32:17.300
Been
00:32:17.460
Happening
00:32:17.800
For
00:32:17.980
A
00:32:18.080
Long
00:32:18.220
Time
00:32:18.500
But
00:32:19.000
Now
00:32:19.580
These
00:32:20.080
Days
00:32:20.480
It's
00:32:20.840
Getting
00:32:21.060
A
00:32:21.220
Lot
00:32:21.380
Worse
00:32:21.780
Does
00:32:22.500
Something
00:32:22.840
Like
00:32:23.160
This
00:32:23.460
And
00:32:23.580
Maybe
00:32:23.740
This
00:32:23.920
Is
00:32:23.940
A
00:32:24.080
Tough
00:32:24.260
Question
00:32:24.700
But
00:32:24.940
Does
00:32:25.120
Something
00:32:25.360
Like
00:32:25.660
This
00:32:25.920
Warren
00:32:26.300
Further
00:32:27.460
Drive
00:32:27.940
A
00:32:28.100
Wedge
00:32:28.460
And
00:32:28.720
Divide
00:32:29.400
Or
00:32:29.880
Does
00:32:30.360
It
00:32:30.540
Bring
00:32:30.880
People
00:32:31.220
Together
00:32:31.700
Well
00:32:34.640
You know
00:32:34.980
In
00:32:35.100
The
00:32:35.200
First
00:32:35.460
Few
00:32:35.660
Minutes
00:32:35.980
I
00:32:36.180
Heard
00:32:36.420
Democrats
00:32:36.960
And
00:32:37.440
As
00:32:37.760
You
00:32:37.900
Know
00:32:38.080
Full
00:32:38.300
Disclosure
00:32:38.800
I've
00:32:39.520
Worked
00:32:39.740
For
00:32:39.900
Hillary
00:32:40.300
Clinton
00:32:40.660
And
00:32:40.880
Joe
00:32:41.060
Biden
00:32:41.420
And
00:32:41.600
Kamala
00:32:41.940
Harris
00:32:42.360
I
00:32:43.280
Was
00:32:43.460
Happy
00:32:43.860
And
00:32:44.200
Pleased
00:32:44.640
To
00:32:44.820
See
00:32:45.000
Democrats
00:32:45.740
Deploring
00:32:46.860
The
00:32:47.480
Death
00:32:47.780
Of
00:32:47.920
This
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00:32:49.280
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00:32:49.400
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00:32:49.880
Years
00:32:50.220
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00:32:50.480
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00:32:50.640
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00:32:50.760
Young
00:32:50.940
Family
00:32:51.480
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00:32:53.060
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00:32:53.280
You
00:32:53.480
Know
00:32:53.740
Then
00:32:54.480
Anonymously
00:32:55.240
As
00:32:55.600
I
00:32:55.760
Say
00:32:56.200
Online
00:32:57.500
You
00:32:57.860
Start
00:32:58.120
To
00:32:58.280
See
00:32:58.480
People
00:32:58.880
So
00:32:59.160
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00:32:59.420
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00:33:00.120
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00:33:00.900
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00:33:01.160
Assassination
00:33:02.100
And
00:33:02.920
And
00:33:03.220
You
00:33:03.840
Know
00:33:03.960
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00:33:04.320
Seen
00:33:04.480
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00:33:04.640
Same
00:33:04.900
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00:33:05.220
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00:33:05.400
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00:33:05.520
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00:33:05.760
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00:33:09.520
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00:33:09.960
Hurt
00:33:10.380
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00:33:10.980
Has
00:33:11.200
A
00:33:11.360
Point
00:33:11.580
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00:33:11.700
View
00:33:11.820
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00:33:12.000
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00:33:12.160
Disagree
00:33:12.700
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00:33:13.060
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00:33:13.540
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00:33:13.660
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00:33:13.800
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00:33:14.360
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00:33:14.640
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00:33:14.980
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00:33:15.220
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00:33:15.680
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00:33:15.920
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00:33:16.100
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00:33:16.320
What
00:33:16.480
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00:33:16.640
Saying
00:33:16.920
Right
00:33:17.180
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00:33:17.480
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00:33:18.020
Pick
00:33:18.340
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00:33:18.500
A
00:33:18.660
Pen
00:33:18.900
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00:33:19.080
Write
00:33:19.280
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00:33:19.420
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00:33:19.560
Letter
00:33:19.800
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00:33:20.240
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00:33:20.760
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00:33:21.380
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00:33:21.920
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00:33:22.240
Say
00:33:22.460
Why
00:33:22.800
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00:33:23.000
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00:33:23.680
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00:33:24.480
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00:33:24.640
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00:33:24.900
Someone
00:33:25.460
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00:33:26.100
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Die
00:33:26.860
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00:33:27.180
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00:33:27.360
Idea
00:33:27.920
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00:33:29.060
Not
00:33:29.240
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00:33:29.420
Beginning
00:33:29.820
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00:33:30.600
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00:33:31.020
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00:33:31.180
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00:33:31.520
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00:33:31.700
Everything
00:33:32.280
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00:33:33.340
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00:33:33.520
End
00:33:33.860
Of
00:33:34.060
Everything
00:33:34.600
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00:33:35.120
We
00:33:35.280
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00:33:35.680
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00:33:36.060
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00:33:36.320
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00:33:36.500
Society
00:33:37.080
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00:33:37.620
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00:33:37.740
Democracy
00:33:38.320
Political
00:33:39.340
Commentator
00:33:39.920
Warren
00:33:40.160
Kinsella
00:33:40.640
Is
00:33:40.860
My
00:33:41.040
Guest
00:33:41.360
We
00:33:41.800
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00:33:42.060
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00:33:42.280
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00:33:42.400
Couple
00:33:42.580
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00:33:42.800
Things
00:33:43.220
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00:33:43.380
Wanted
00:33:43.600
To
00:33:43.720
Touch
00:33:43.920
Base
00:33:44.180
With
00:33:44.360
But
00:33:44.520
What
00:33:44.940
I'm
00:33:45.340
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00:33:45.820
Listeners
00:33:46.340
This
00:33:46.560
Morning
00:33:46.820
Is
00:33:47.140
What
00:33:48.000
Can
00:33:48.240
Be
00:33:48.380
Done
00:33:48.680
What
00:33:49.160
Whether
00:33:50.080
It's
00:33:50.340
Preventative
00:33:51.000
Steps
00:33:51.420
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00:33:51.520
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00:33:51.740
Steps
00:33:52.380
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00:33:52.800
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00:33:52.980
Be
00:33:53.160
Taken
00:33:53.600
To
00:33:53.820
Reduce
00:33:54.420
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00:33:55.300
Violence
00:33:55.740
It's
00:33:56.140
A
00:33:56.260
It's
00:33:56.520
A
00:33:56.620
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00:33:56.800
Question
00:33:57.240
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00:33:57.480
Have
00:33:57.620
You
00:33:57.700
Got
00:33:57.820
Thoughts
00:33:58.160
On
00:33:58.260
That
00:33:58.400
Warren
00:33:58.640
Absolutely
00:33:59.860
I
00:34:00.140
Do
00:34:00.280
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00:34:00.400
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00:34:00.560
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00:34:00.700
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00:34:01.040
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00:34:01.500
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00:34:01.860
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00:34:02.200
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00:34:03.040
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00:34:03.260
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00:34:03.400
Internet
00:34:03.820
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00:34:04.760
To
00:34:04.980
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00:34:05.480
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00:34:05.740
You've
00:34:05.960
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00:34:06.080
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00:34:06.220
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00:34:06.440
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00:34:06.600
View
00:34:06.820
Put
00:34:07.320
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00:34:07.480
Name
00:34:07.700
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00:34:08.640
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00:34:08.940
You
00:34:09.260
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00:34:09.840
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00:34:10.560
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00:34:11.180
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00:34:11.440
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00:34:11.800
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00:34:12.040
Have
00:34:12.720
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00:34:13.040
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00:34:13.700
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00:34:14.200
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00:34:14.740
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00:34:15.300
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00:34:15.460
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00:34:15.600
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00:34:15.700
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00:34:16.200
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00:34:16.880
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00:34:17.360
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00:34:17.820
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00:34:18.600
Multi
00:34:19.480
Billionaires
00:34:20.500
Who
00:34:20.840
Profit
00:34:21.360
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00:34:21.620
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00:34:21.840
Internet
00:34:22.320
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00:34:22.600
Zuckerberg
00:34:23.260
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00:34:23.440
The
00:34:23.580
Musks
00:34:23.980
Need
00:34:24.560
To
00:34:24.720
Start
00:34:24.980
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00:34:25.600
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00:34:25.820
End
00:34:26.120
User
00:34:26.480
Agreements
00:34:27.180
And
00:34:27.820
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00:34:28.200
If
00:34:28.460
You
00:34:28.620
Engage
00:34:29.100
In
00:34:29.240
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00:34:30.180
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00:34:30.500
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00:34:31.260
Or
00:34:31.900
Violent
00:34:32.640
Language
00:34:33.360
You
00:34:33.960
Will
00:34:34.140
Be
00:34:34.340
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00:34:34.640
Off
00:34:34.940
Of
00:34:35.100
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00:34:35.260
Platforms
00:34:36.120
And
00:34:36.320
Number
00:34:36.520
Three
00:34:36.860
Governments
00:34:37.840
Governments
00:34:38.900
You
00:34:39.160
Know
00:34:39.360
That
00:34:39.600
Allow
00:34:39.960
These
00:34:40.340
People
00:34:40.740
To
00:34:40.980
Profit
00:34:41.560
And
00:34:41.960
To
00:34:42.100
Operate
00:34:42.600
Within
00:34:42.820
Their
00:34:43.060
Borders
00:34:43.440
Need
00:34:43.720
To
00:34:43.860
Say
00:34:44.000
Hey
00:34:44.180
Look
00:34:44.380
Boys
00:34:44.660
And
00:34:44.820
Girls
00:34:45.120
Like
00:34:45.660
If
00:34:45.760
You're
00:34:45.920
Going
00:34:46.040
To
00:34:46.100
Do
00:34:46.280
This
00:34:46.620
We're
00:34:46.860
Going
00:34:46.960
To
00:34:47.040
Hold
00:34:47.260
You
00:34:47.400
To
00:34:47.580
A
00:34:47.700
Minimum
00:34:48.060
Standard
00:34:48.460
And
00:34:48.700
The
00:34:48.820
Minimum
00:34:49.140
Standard
00:34:49.520
Is
00:34:49.940
You
00:34:50.460
Have
00:34:50.680
An
00:34:50.820
Obligation
00:34:51.580
To
00:34:51.820
Provide
00:34:52.440
A
00:34:52.560
Platform
00:34:52.940
For
00:34:53.440
People
00:34:54.060
Telling
00:34:54.420
The
00:34:54.580
Truth
00:34:54.900
And
00:34:55.200
Promoting
00:34:55.640
Civilization
00:34:56.500
And
00:34:57.140
Not
00:34:57.320
Just
00:34:57.480
People
00:34:57.820
Advocating
00:34:58.520
Murder
00:34:58.920
So
00:34:59.780
Those
00:35:00.020
Are
00:35:00.140
Three
00:35:00.380
Things
00:35:00.740
That
00:35:00.880
Can
00:35:00.980
Be
00:35:01.120
Done
00:35:01.340
Right
00:35:01.700
Now
00:35:01.960
This
00:35:02.220
Morning
00:35:02.640
Today
00:35:03.200
But
00:35:04.440
Unfortunately
00:35:05.100
I'm
00:35:06.020
Not
00:35:06.180
Going
00:35:06.280
To
00:35:06.360
Hold
00:35:06.560
My
00:35:06.740
Breath
00:35:07.060
Warren
00:35:07.760
I
00:35:08.360
Want
00:35:08.540
To
00:35:08.640
Change
00:35:08.880
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00:35:09.180
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00:35:09.420
For
00:35:09.560
A
00:35:09.680
Second
00:35:09.880
While
00:35:10.140
I've
00:35:10.320
Got
00:35:10.500
You
00:35:10.620
I
00:35:10.740
Know
00:35:10.840
You
00:35:11.000
Are
00:35:11.140
A
00:35:11.280
Strong
00:35:11.540
Supporter
00:35:12.060
Of
00:35:12.340
Jewish
00:35:12.680
People
00:35:13.200
B'nai
00:35:14.080
Brith
00:35:14.480
Canada
00:35:15.060
Has
00:35:15.420
Called
00:35:15.720
For
00:35:15.980
A
00:35:16.120
National
00:35:16.400
Task
00:35:16.800
Force
00:35:17.140
On
00:35:17.680
Anti
00:35:18.040
Semitism
00:35:18.680
Your
00:35:18.940
Thoughts
00:35:19.260
On
00:35:19.400
This
00:35:19.600
Well
00:35:20.840
I
00:35:20.960
Think
00:35:21.120
It's
00:35:21.280
Important
00:35:21.680
That
00:35:21.860
B'nai
00:35:22.200
Brith
00:35:22.500
Is
00:35:22.700
Doing
00:35:23.040
That
00:35:23.420
And
00:35:23.660
Their
00:35:23.820
Timing
00:35:24.300
Is
00:35:24.480
Important
00:35:24.900
Because
00:35:25.240
In
00:35:25.380
The
00:35:25.460
Next
00:35:25.660
Few
00:35:25.860
Days
00:35:26.200
Canada
00:35:27.020
Along
00:35:27.540
With
00:35:27.740
Britain
00:35:28.080
And
00:35:28.300
The
00:35:28.600
UK
00:35:28.980
And
00:35:30.840
France
00:35:31.340
And
00:35:31.540
Australia
00:35:32.100
Are
00:35:32.800
Getting
00:35:33.080
Ready
00:35:33.460
To
00:35:33.780
Recognize
00:35:34.840
Palestine
00:35:36.280
Which
00:35:37.140
Is
00:35:37.320
A
00:35:37.700
So
00:35:38.440
Called
00:35:38.760
State
00:35:39.260
Run
00:35:39.660
By
00:35:39.860
A
00:35:40.040
Designated
00:35:40.640
Terrorist
00:35:41.160
Entity
00:35:41.560
So
00:35:42.060
We
00:35:42.320
Are
00:35:42.520
Rewarding
00:35:43.480
Hamas
00:35:44.180
We
00:35:44.420
Are
00:35:44.580
Rewarding
00:35:45.240
These
00:35:46.100
People
00:35:46.480
Who
00:35:46.680
Have
00:35:46.840
Killed
00:35:47.240
Canadians
00:35:48.100
And
00:35:48.440
Americans
00:35:48.960
And
00:35:49.260
Israelis
00:35:49.760
And
00:35:50.060
Innocent
00:35:50.440
Citizens
00:35:50.900
Around
00:35:51.660
The
00:35:51.940
World
00:35:52.260
For
00:35:52.500
Years
00:35:52.820
We're
00:35:53.220
Going
00:35:53.340
To
00:35:53.400
Reward
00:35:53.900
Them
00:35:54.280
Next
00:35:54.720
Week
00:35:55.200
And
00:35:55.440
That's
00:35:55.720
Why
00:35:55.860
It's
00:35:56.020
Important
00:35:56.520
For
00:35:57.100
B'nai
00:35:57.380
Brit
00:35:57.640
To
00:35:57.880
Say
00:35:58.080
Hey
00:35:58.340
Look
00:35:58.780
The
00:35:59.620
Anti-Semitism
00:36:00.560
That's
00:36:01.040
Growing
00:36:01.340
Everywhere
00:36:01.980
It's
00:36:03.060
A
00:36:03.180
Problem
00:36:03.600
And
00:36:04.080
It
00:36:04.240
Is
00:36:04.740
Facilitated
00:36:05.600
In
00:36:05.860
Large
00:36:06.180
Measure
00:36:06.560
The
00:36:07.040
Kind
00:36:07.300
Of
00:36:07.420
Appalling
00:36:07.880
Decision
00:36:08.440
The
00:36:08.720
Prime
00:36:09.000
Minister
00:36:09.320
Made
00:36:09.640
A
00:36:09.780
Few
00:36:09.920
Days
00:36:10.220
Ago
00:36:10.520
Which
00:36:11.140
Is
00:36:11.480
To
00:36:11.860
Say
00:36:12.320
That
00:36:12.540
He
00:36:12.660
Was
00:36:12.880
Going
00:36:13.120
To
00:36:13.320
Recognize
00:36:14.080
The
00:36:14.540
State
00:36:14.940
Run
00:36:15.240
By
00:36:15.460
Hamas
00:36:15.920
It's
00:36:16.380
A
00:36:16.540
Big
00:36:16.780
Mistake
00:36:17.460
It
00:36:17.640
Rewards
00:36:18.120
Hamas
00:36:18.520
For
00:36:18.680
What
00:36:18.860
They've
00:36:19.120
Done
00:36:19.360
And
00:36:19.840
Hopefully
00:36:20.700
B'nai
00:36:21.440
Brit
00:36:21.660
Is
00:36:21.840
Successful
00:36:22.380
In
00:36:22.520
Changing
00:36:22.880
The
00:36:23.520
Views
00:36:23.960
Of
00:36:24.060
The
00:36:24.180
Canadian
00:36:24.480
Government
00:36:24.960
Busy
00:36:25.500
Time
00:36:25.760
Today
00:36:26.120
Warren
00:36:26.500
Thanks
00:36:26.820
For
00:36:26.980
Your
00:36:27.180
Call
00:36:27.500
I
00:36:27.680
Appreciate
00:36:27.960
It
00:36:28.740
Thanks
00:36:29.200
My
00:36:29.360
Friend
00:36:29.620
Political
00:36:30.380
Commentator
00:36:30.960
Warren
00:36:31.300
Kinsella
00:36:31.900
Always
00:36:32.320
Appreciate
00:36:32.900
Checking
00:36:33.520
In
00:36:33.840
With
00:36:34.400
With
00:36:34.740
Him
00:36:34.980
So
00:37:04.980
And
00:37:05.200
I
00:37:05.320
Just
00:37:05.740
Here
00:37:06.140
Digging
00:37:06.740
My
00:37:07.040
Grave
00:37:07.800
Only
00:37:08.960
The
00:37:09.380
Day
00:37:09.920
Over
00:37:10.380
Thirty
00:37:10.780
She's
00:37:11.240
Too
00:37:11.420
Clean
00:37:11.760
And
00:37:12.020
I'm
00:37:12.260
Too
00:37:12.460
Dirty
00:37:12.880
But
00:37:13.280
She's
00:37:13.560
Always
00:37:14.040
Out
00:37:14.440
Calling
00:37:14.940
My
00:37:15.260
Name
00:37:15.840
There was a girl in Texarkana
00:37:35.560
That wanted me to meet her nanny
00:37:37.680
I'm just here doing my thing
00:37:40.740
They're just living for the seasons
00:37:44.000
I went by and we got created
00:37:46.020
With an apple pie and cheap champagne
00:37:48.960
There was a girl in North Dakota
00:37:52.140
She wants to get to know you
00:37:54.380
But I ain't even told her my name
00:37:57.480
Yeah, she thinks my name is John
00:38:00.380
Or maybe Randy with a candy red
00:38:02.980
Jacked up with a Chevrolet
00:38:05.280
But I'll be gone with the wind
00:38:08.800
There ain't no telling where I'll be
00:38:12.760
And if I fall and take a hit
00:38:17.000
No, I ain't gonna quit
00:38:18.780
I'm gonna kick the dirt off with a grin
00:38:22.620
There was a miss from San Francisco
00:38:27.300
But she said I was a prick though
00:38:29.540
I've been hiding on a mountainside
00:38:32.600
I lied to make it to the bay
00:38:35.560
And see the fog and raise some cane
00:38:37.740
Then they're moving out to mountain town
00:38:40.720
There's a girl in West Virginia
00:38:43.860
Her daddy might just kill you
00:38:46.080
But I'm still walking proud today
00:38:48.760
Yeah, I'll be leaving her house
00:38:52.260
Just as quiet as a mouse
00:38:54.360
And drive to Los Angeles
00:38:56.320
There was a girl in Tallahassee
00:39:08.780
She was looking right at me
00:39:10.900
But I was looking at the door
00:39:13.840
There's no common sense
00:39:17.100
When you're feeling the best
00:39:18.940
Cause I know you're gonna hit the floor
00:39:22.080
This is CFRA Live Sunday Political Panel
00:39:44.320
And welcome to it
00:39:48.540
Time to talk some politics here
00:39:50.300
This morning we've got Carl Belanger
00:39:51.580
He is the president at Traction Strategies
00:39:53.400
Good morning, Carl
00:39:54.080
Morning
00:39:55.100
Melanie Parody is also here
00:39:56.580
The president of Texture Communications
00:39:58.340
Good morning, Melanie
00:39:59.180
Good morning
00:40:00.280
And Warren Kinsella is also here
00:40:01.780
A strategist and post-media columnist
00:40:03.320
You can read his latest in the Toronto Sun
00:40:05.120
Good morning, Warren
00:40:05.860
Good morning, folks
00:40:07.400
Lots of stuff going on this week
00:40:09.440
It's hard to keep track sometimes
00:40:10.820
You know, there has been a lot of talk
00:40:12.880
About what's been happening
00:40:13.640
South of the border
00:40:14.320
And I don't necessarily think
00:40:15.580
We're immune from some of the rhetoric
00:40:17.100
We do see
00:40:17.760
We saw Charlie Kirk assassinated this week
00:40:20.420
American conservative activist
00:40:21.960
Fatally shot at a college event
00:40:24.120
In Utah on Wednesday
00:40:25.360
Again, the reaction has been swift
00:40:27.840
Here on social media
00:40:28.760
We still don't know
00:40:29.580
What's been happening, really
00:40:30.920
We've got the left and the right groups
00:40:32.500
On social media
00:40:33.080
Both trying to blame each other
00:40:34.320
I'll start with just your guys
00:40:36.200
General takeaways of what we've seen
00:40:37.540
In the reaction so far
00:40:38.560
Maybe Melanie, I'll start with you
00:40:40.820
Well, I mean, obviously
00:40:42.600
This was an incredibly tragic event
00:40:44.680
And brought on by the extreme polarization
00:40:48.060
That we're seeing in politics
00:40:50.420
In the United States
00:40:51.260
And I would argue that
00:40:52.040
We're starting to see a bit here as well
00:40:54.240
And we need to be really careful
00:40:56.200
And guard against that kind of rhetoric
00:40:58.360
I think it's so important
00:40:59.520
To be listening to one another
00:41:02.100
And to give space for opposing views
00:41:05.500
And to, you know, encourage debate
00:41:07.400
Whether that be on campus
00:41:08.780
Or just in our everyday lives
00:41:10.640
It's important for people
00:41:11.980
To have differing opinions
00:41:13.280
And I think that, you know
00:41:17.040
The other thing to think about it here
00:41:18.840
Is the dramatic impact
00:41:20.800
Of witnessing these types of horrific events
00:41:24.420
On our social media feeds
00:41:25.720
Without being able to escape it
00:41:28.520
Yeah, I just said that video
00:41:30.460
Is just awful
00:41:31.260
Just circulating this week
00:41:32.420
In the aftermath of this
00:41:33.520
That's just one part of this too
00:41:34.900
Warren, just your thoughts
00:41:36.420
In watching this continue this week
00:41:38.720
This awful tragedy
00:41:39.560
Well, I've got a column
00:41:41.480
About it in post-media today
00:41:43.720
And my grim prediction is
00:41:46.740
We're going to see more of this
00:41:48.320
And the reason for that
00:41:51.000
Is found in the data
00:41:52.400
In Canada and the United States
00:41:54.700
You know, if you look at the data
00:41:57.360
In Canada
00:41:58.700
A poll that Leger did just a few days ago
00:42:01.420
Says a minority
00:42:03.420
But a big minority
00:42:04.580
Of young Canadians
00:42:06.700
Believe that terrorism
00:42:08.580
Is justified for political ends
00:42:11.180
In the States
00:42:12.740
YouGov did a poll
00:42:14.040
Found that
00:42:15.200
11%
00:42:16.480
Of young people
00:42:18.340
Saying violence
00:42:19.400
Can be justified
00:42:20.220
To achieve political goals
00:42:21.980
Other polls
00:42:24.420
That have been done
00:42:25.320
Are finding the same thing
00:42:26.640
Been finding it for
00:42:27.480
For quite some time
00:42:28.880
And it's across the board
00:42:31.580
It's Gen Z
00:42:33.320
And to some extent
00:42:34.500
Millennials
00:42:35.200
Like I've seen it
00:42:36.060
In the research
00:42:36.640
I've done for my book
00:42:37.760
Is in Canada
00:42:39.740
In the United States
00:42:41.020
And in Europe
00:42:41.940
About 40 to 45%
00:42:45.340
Of Gen Z
00:42:46.720
Believe that Hamas
00:42:48.780
Is justified
00:42:49.680
In using murder
00:42:51.140
Against Jews
00:42:52.180
Whether they're in Israel
00:42:53.640
Or outside Israel
00:42:54.620
So, you know
00:42:57.040
I think we all know
00:42:58.540
Why this disturbing trend
00:43:00.460
Is happening
00:43:01.100
You know
00:43:01.560
Social media
00:43:02.420
It's the culture
00:43:05.100
It's what people are being
00:43:07.980
Young people are being taught
00:43:09.340
But we've got a generation coming
00:43:12.000
Who not only are disinterested
00:43:14.880
In our concerns
00:43:16.100
About political violence
00:43:17.380
They actually believe in it
00:43:19.220
They support it
00:43:20.620
And social media
00:43:22.440
Is there to kind of
00:43:23.200
Blow it all up
00:43:24.080
And kind of take it
00:43:25.080
Out of proportion as well
00:43:26.420
Put us to these extremes too
00:43:27.800
It's tough to watch
00:43:29.280
In many ways
00:43:29.920
But Carl
00:43:30.520
Just your read
00:43:31.260
On what we've been watching
00:43:32.120
This weekend
00:43:32.580
And the concerns
00:43:33.660
As Warren has
00:43:34.480
You know
00:43:34.840
Could this get worse?
00:43:37.080
Well yeah
00:43:37.780
It can get worse
00:43:39.340
And it may get worse
00:43:40.400
In fact
00:43:40.760
I think I agree
00:43:42.020
With Warren
00:43:42.740
That it will get worse
00:43:43.820
There is this phenomenon
00:43:45.780
Of self-radicalization
00:43:48.000
And self-politicization
00:43:49.160
People are
00:43:50.400
You know
00:43:50.780
Learning about politics
00:43:51.840
In their basement
00:43:52.660
And you know
00:43:54.280
They are taking matters
00:43:55.680
To their own hands
00:43:56.760
And some of that
00:43:57.600
Yes
00:43:58.280
Is based on
00:43:58.880
What we see
00:43:59.440
In social media
00:44:00.060
But it's also based on
00:44:01.100
Some of the rhetoric
00:44:02.260
Used by some politicians
00:44:03.580
Who you know
00:44:04.740
They no longer talk
00:44:05.640
About their opponents
00:44:06.460
They talk about
00:44:07.160
The enemy
00:44:08.200
They're spewing hate
00:44:10.520
Against the enemy
00:44:11.440
And they call them dangerous
00:44:13.820
And so on and so forth
00:44:15.560
And when you do that
00:44:16.780
Well
00:44:17.380
People are afraid
00:44:18.840
People are scared
00:44:20.180
And sometimes
00:44:21.240
They're so afraid
00:44:22.100
And so scared
00:44:22.820
Of what one can do
00:44:24.500
That they take the matter
00:44:26.000
Into their own hands
00:44:27.120
Because
00:44:27.440
They don't want to
00:44:28.940
See that grow
00:44:30.480
And that's what we're seeing
00:44:32.500
And it's happening
00:44:33.260
On both sides
00:44:34.380
We've seen
00:44:35.080
Political violence
00:44:36.420
In the United States
00:44:37.360
Against Democrats
00:44:38.180
And against Republicans
00:44:39.460
Like
00:44:39.880
That radicalization
00:44:41.800
Is happening
00:44:42.440
They
00:44:43.620
They
00:44:44.140
They are no longer friends
00:44:45.840
They are no longer
00:44:46.960
People that disagree
00:44:47.940
They see themselves
00:44:49.780
I mean
00:44:50.200
Not everybody
00:44:51.020
Obviously
00:44:51.460
But a lot of them
00:44:52.640
See themselves
00:44:53.360
As being at war
00:44:55.200
With the other side
00:44:56.140
Well
00:44:56.380
When you're at war
00:44:57.240
You go into the
00:44:58.580
On to the path
00:44:59.260
That Warren described
00:45:00.240
Which is
00:45:01.020
You use whatever means
00:45:02.320
You need
00:45:02.820
To put an end to it
00:45:04.260
And win it all
00:45:05.560
And you know
00:45:06.580
I've been talking about this
00:45:07.280
And we've been talking about
00:45:08.000
In a U.S. context
00:45:09.100
But I think
00:45:09.520
You guys have alluded to
00:45:10.600
A couple of times
00:45:11.160
You know
00:45:11.360
We can very much see
00:45:12.400
Some of the divisive rhetoric here
00:45:13.700
I had mentioned
00:45:14.860
Earlier on today
00:45:15.840
That you know
00:45:16.260
I spoke with Charlie Angus
00:45:17.880
Earlier on today
00:45:18.520
Just talking about
00:45:19.060
His speaking to her
00:45:19.800
He was mentioning
00:45:20.380
The threats that he got
00:45:21.300
In public space
00:45:22.020
That's an ADP MP
00:45:22.960
Catherine McKenna
00:45:23.960
Catherine McKenna
00:45:23.980
Kind of noting more threats
00:45:25.040
In her memoir this week
00:45:26.360
Conservative MP Michael Barrett
00:45:28.080
Had a guy that was
00:45:28.840
Threatening him
00:45:29.420
That was sent to jail
00:45:30.220
A little while ago
00:45:30.960
To
00:45:31.280
Corey Hearn
00:45:32.260
Of the Prime Minister's office
00:45:33.180
Have we kind of been lucky
00:45:34.440
I guess Warren
00:45:35.160
I'll start with you
00:45:35.600
On this one
00:45:35.940
Have we kind of been lucky
00:45:37.080
That we haven't seen
00:45:37.980
Something like a
00:45:38.800
Charlie Kirk here
00:45:39.540
Yeah we're lucky
00:45:41.120
But you know
00:45:42.200
Don't dream in technicolor
00:45:44.920
We've got the same problem here
00:45:46.260
All of us
00:45:47.060
On this panel
00:45:47.760
I don't even have to
00:45:48.660
Check with you guys
00:45:49.620
When Catherine McKenna
00:45:51.260
Came out this week
00:45:52.020
To talk about the threats
00:45:53.120
That she'd experienced
00:45:54.220
As a minister
00:45:54.960
I had conservatives
00:45:56.620
Attacking me
00:45:57.580
For being sympathetic
00:45:58.860
Towards her position
00:45:59.980
When I came out this week
00:46:01.840
You know
00:46:02.380
Deploring the murder
00:46:03.440
Of Charlie Kirk
00:46:04.380
For you know
00:46:05.360
Somebody I disagreed with
00:46:06.460
On gays
00:46:07.220
And blacks
00:46:08.080
And trans people
00:46:09.280
I disagreed with him
00:46:10.700
But he at least
00:46:11.300
Believed in debate
00:46:12.180
And I deplored his death
00:46:13.640
I had people on the left
00:46:14.600
Attacking me
00:46:15.340
So
00:46:16.200
And they were
00:46:16.820
All these people
00:46:17.740
I heard from
00:46:18.540
Were Canadians
00:46:19.360
They weren't Americans
00:46:20.460
So you know
00:46:21.860
The left
00:46:22.400
Justifying murder
00:46:24.380
You know
00:46:25.200
On the right
00:46:26.280
And the right
00:46:27.000
Justifying murder
00:46:27.940
On the left
00:46:28.620
And
00:46:29.800
So I think
00:46:31.220
Andrew
00:46:31.840
You're absolutely right
00:46:32.820
We're lucky so far
00:46:34.160
You know
00:46:34.880
It's obviously
00:46:35.360
A lot easier
00:46:36.100
For a lunatic
00:46:36.960
To get a gun
00:46:37.660
In the United States
00:46:38.740
But
00:46:39.680
We have the same
00:46:40.960
Kind of anger
00:46:41.820
Here
00:46:42.400
And madness
00:46:43.760
That is building
00:46:44.720
Just as it is
00:46:45.500
In the United States
00:46:46.300
Yeah
00:46:46.960
Charlie Angus
00:46:47.520
Just said the same thing
00:46:48.320
In a sense of
00:46:49.060
Yeah
00:46:49.400
And we both put out
00:46:50.660
You know
00:46:51.520
Comments about
00:46:52.220
Charlie Kirk this week
00:46:52.980
Saying hey
00:46:53.300
This is
00:46:53.600
This is awful
00:46:54.640
And did get some pushback
00:46:56.020
So it is out there
00:46:57.180
On the left
00:46:57.580
And the right
00:46:57.960
And it's hard
00:46:58.420
To kind of get a
00:46:58.960
Calm on this
00:46:59.540
Melanie
00:47:00.120
Are we lucky
00:47:01.700
That we haven't had
00:47:02.640
Something like this here
00:47:03.440
And do we have to
00:47:04.480
Consider where we're
00:47:05.120
Heading here
00:47:05.580
We are
00:47:07.420
Unfortunately lucky
00:47:08.240
I think that we
00:47:08.920
Definitely need to
00:47:10.140
Consider how to
00:47:11.120
How to avoid this
00:47:12.740
In a more concerted
00:47:14.340
Effort
00:47:15.320
It's hard though
00:47:16.640
Because you know
00:47:17.400
On one hand
00:47:18.200
Of course
00:47:18.940
Like our opposition
00:47:19.680
Parties
00:47:20.060
Their job is to
00:47:20.840
Is to oppose
00:47:21.780
We need to be
00:47:22.860
Bringing attention
00:47:24.060
To the failings
00:47:25.440
Of government
00:47:26.020
You know
00:47:27.220
Constructively
00:47:28.320
Suggesting solutions
00:47:29.920
Like but
00:47:30.720
We need to be
00:47:31.560
Doing it
00:47:32.000
In a way
00:47:32.360
That doesn't
00:47:32.920
Obviously add
00:47:33.580
Fuel to any fire
00:47:34.780
Or inspire
00:47:35.480
Violence
00:47:36.260
And I think
00:47:36.740
Like our
00:47:37.100
Politicians
00:47:37.960
Haven't been
00:47:39.140
Inciting anything
00:47:40.880
The challenge is
00:47:42.480
Social media
00:47:43.420
Is
00:47:43.940
There's so
00:47:45.520
Much rhetoric
00:47:46.700
There
00:47:47.140
And it's often
00:47:47.940
Fueled by like
00:47:48.660
Bot accounts
00:47:49.520
People who do
00:47:51.100
Not know
00:47:51.740
That they're being
00:47:52.340
Influenced by
00:47:53.380
Foreign actors
00:47:55.160
Like whether that
00:47:55.800
Be Russia
00:47:56.660
Or China
00:47:57.360
Or other
00:47:58.540
Government
00:47:59.100
Backed
00:48:00.540
Bought
00:48:01.000
Farms
00:48:01.960
Basically
00:48:02.520
That are
00:48:03.360
Twisting
00:48:04.600
And contorting
00:48:05.640
Our politics
00:48:07.020
Here in Canada
00:48:07.800
By influencing
00:48:08.720
Canadians
00:48:09.760
Through their
00:48:10.740
Social media feeds
00:48:11.480
And the social
00:48:12.560
Media algorithms
00:48:13.200
Are really sorting
00:48:14.140
People into
00:48:15.720
Their
00:48:16.340
Like finite
00:48:17.480
Categories
00:48:18.300
That you don't
00:48:19.400
Even see
00:48:20.340
Opposing views
00:48:21.280
Anymore
00:48:21.940
Unless it is
00:48:22.620
For the sole
00:48:23.080
Purpose of
00:48:23.620
Getting you
00:48:24.120
To react
00:48:25.340
With anger
00:48:26.140
Because that
00:48:27.040
Gets more clicks
00:48:27.900
It's a
00:48:28.240
It's a super
00:48:29.060
Toxic and
00:48:30.260
Dangerous
00:48:30.740
Environment
00:48:31.140
That's why
00:48:31.440
I've largely
00:48:32.100
Checked out
00:48:32.620
Of Twitter
00:48:33.360
Unless there's
00:48:34.160
Like a crisis
00:48:34.840
Going on
00:48:35.380
And I want
00:48:35.660
To see the
00:48:35.960
Latest news
00:48:36.460
Because it's
00:48:37.080
Just such
00:48:37.400
A toxic
00:48:37.860
Environment
00:48:38.820
It's not
00:48:39.300
Worth
00:48:39.660
It's not
00:48:40.040
Worth our
00:48:40.300
Time
00:48:40.640
But there
00:48:41.600
Are still
00:48:42.120
Many many
00:48:43.040
Canadians
00:48:43.380
Who get
00:48:43.680
Their news
00:48:44.180
On social
00:48:44.880
Media
00:48:45.200
And their
00:48:46.400
Opinions
00:48:46.780
Are largely
00:48:47.200
Formed
00:48:47.620
Based on
00:48:48.000
What they're
00:48:48.300
Consuming
00:48:48.880
And being
00:48:50.560
Yeah
00:48:50.920
Forced into
00:48:51.380
That echo
00:48:51.800
Chamber
00:48:52.160
And not
00:48:52.800
Seeing
00:48:53.060
Outside of
00:48:53.860
That is
00:48:54.160
Kind of
00:48:54.560
Making this
00:48:54.920
More difficult
00:48:55.420
To
00:48:55.720
Carl
00:48:56.600
Are we
00:48:56.960
Kind of
00:48:58.240
This hasn't
00:48:58.720
Happened
00:48:59.000
Here
00:48:59.160
Do we
00:48:59.420
Have to
00:48:59.700
Be mindful
00:49:00.240
Of
00:49:00.560
Political
00:49:01.360
Rhetoric
00:49:01.860
As we're
00:49:02.200
Watching
00:49:02.520
What's
00:49:02.800
Happening
00:49:03.080
South of
00:49:03.420
The
00:49:03.540
Border
00:49:03.780
But things
00:49:05.060
Like this
00:49:05.480
Have happened
00:49:05.980
Here
00:49:06.260
Not that
00:49:07.260
Long ago
00:49:07.680
There was
00:49:08.100
An assassination
00:49:09.100
Attempt
00:49:09.600
Against
00:49:09.920
Premier
00:49:10.280
Poirot
00:49:10.660
On election
00:49:11.400
Night
00:49:11.800
A man
00:49:12.980
Died
00:49:13.600
That night
00:49:14.080
Because
00:49:14.460
Of the
00:49:15.720
Kind of
00:49:16.160
Behavior
00:49:16.440
That we
00:49:16.820
See
00:49:17.200
It's
00:49:18.600
Happened
00:49:18.880
Here
00:49:19.140
Before
00:49:19.660
And in
00:49:20.180
Fact we
00:49:20.520
Had
00:49:20.680
Prime
00:49:21.280
Minister
00:49:21.460
Trudeau
00:49:21.820
Wearing
00:49:22.120
A flag
00:49:22.520
Jacket
00:49:23.000
Under
00:49:23.320
His
00:49:23.880
Suit
00:49:24.680
Because
00:49:25.100
Of
00:49:25.300
Threat
00:49:25.660
We
00:49:26.180
Have
00:49:26.320
Pierre Poiliev
00:49:26.920
Saying his
00:49:27.520
Family
00:49:27.880
Was
00:49:29.040
Threatened
00:49:29.420
And he
00:49:29.660
Felt
00:49:29.920
You know
00:49:30.800
He was
00:49:31.140
Afraid
00:49:31.500
For
00:49:31.740
Their
00:49:32.160
Safety
00:49:32.580
Like
00:49:33.160
This
00:49:33.480
Is
00:49:33.620
Happening
00:49:33.900
Here
00:49:34.180
The
00:49:34.520
Big
00:49:35.220
Difference
00:49:35.680
Of
00:49:36.000
Course
00:49:36.260
Is
00:49:36.420
Gun
00:49:36.660
Loss
00:49:36.960
They're
00:49:38.520
Not as
00:49:38.820
Accessible
00:49:39.280
Here
00:49:39.580
It's
00:49:40.040
Harder
00:49:40.400
To
00:49:40.560
Get
00:49:40.740
Guns
00:49:41.640
Down
00:49:43.080
South
00:49:43.440
Of
00:49:43.580
The
00:49:43.700
Border
00:49:44.000
I
00:49:44.280
Mean
00:49:44.500
One
00:49:45.100
Of
00:49:45.200
The
00:49:45.320
Things
00:49:45.500
Charlie
00:49:45.760
Kirk
00:49:45.940
Was
00:49:46.120
Saying
00:49:46.500
In
00:49:47.400
His
00:49:47.580
Rhetoric
00:49:48.380
Was
00:49:48.580
That
00:49:48.820
A
00:49:49.300
Few
00:49:49.600
Death
00:49:50.600
Every
00:49:50.880
Year
00:49:51.140
Because
00:49:51.440
Of
00:49:51.640
Guns
00:49:52.060
Was
00:49:53.180
Warranted
00:49:53.680
Because
00:49:54.040
We
00:49:54.300
Needed
00:49:54.660
To
00:49:54.880
Protect
00:49:55.960
And
00:49:56.240
Uphold
00:49:56.580
The
00:49:56.760
Second
00:49:56.940
Amendment
00:49:57.320
And
00:49:57.740
The
00:49:58.260
Right
00:49:58.480
To
00:49:58.600
Bear
00:49:58.780
Arms
00:49:59.180
We
00:49:59.640
Don't
00:49:59.780
Have
00:49:59.960
That
00:50:00.160
Here
00:50:00.420
That's
00:50:00.940
The
00:50:01.120
Biggest
00:50:01.440
Difference
00:50:01.820
That's
00:50:02.200
The
00:50:02.340
Main
00:50:02.540
Reason
00:50:02.820
Why
00:50:03.060
We
00:50:03.200
Don't
00:50:03.420
See
00:50:03.680
As
00:50:04.260
Many
00:50:04.440
Political
00:50:04.800
Violence
00:50:05.320
As
00:50:05.640
We
00:50:05.800
Do
00:50:06.040
South
00:50:06.580
Of
00:50:06.680
The
00:50:06.780
Border
00:50:07.040
But
00:50:07.780
In
00:50:07.920
Other
00:50:08.080
Countries
00:50:08.500
Where
00:50:08.700
Guns
00:50:08.880
Are
00:50:08.940
A
00:50:09.020
Little
00:50:09.140
More
00:50:09.320
Accessible
00:50:09.780
Like
00:50:10.040
In
00:50:10.140
The
00:50:10.280
UK
00:50:10.540
For
00:50:10.820
Instant
00:50:11.120
We've
00:50:11.800
Seen
00:50:12.080
MPs
00:50:12.660
Murdered
00:50:13.340
And
00:50:13.940
It
00:50:14.160
Will
00:50:14.480
Happen
00:50:14.880
Here
00:50:15.160
Just
00:50:17.120
Kind
00:50:17.300
Of
00:50:17.420
Hoping
00:50:17.880
I
00:50:18.080
Guess
00:50:18.260
At
00:50:18.420
This
00:50:18.600
Point
00:50:18.860
But
00:50:19.120
We
00:50:19.460
See
00:50:19.620
The
00:50:19.760
Rhetoric
00:50:20.080
And
00:50:20.400
We
00:50:20.500
Just
00:50:20.680
Hope
00:50:20.900
That
00:50:21.040
It
00:50:21.140
Won't
00:50:21.300
Come
00:50:21.500
Here
00:50:21.740
But
00:50:21.980
I
00:50:22.560
Think
00:50:22.600
Leaders
00:50:23.040
Have
00:50:23.240
A
00:50:23.340
Responsibility
00:50:23.860
To
00:50:24.080
Lead
00:50:24.660
In
00:50:24.820
This
00:50:24.980
Front
00:50:25.160
But
00:50:25.320
I
00:50:25.900
Wanted
00:50:26.220
To
00:50:26.500
Get
00:50:26.880
On
00:50:27.020
To
00:50:27.080
A
00:50:27.180
Couple
00:50:27.340
More
00:50:27.540
Topics
00:50:27.880
Here
00:50:28.000
Just
00:50:28.160
As
00:50:28.280
Parliament
00:50:28.580
Is
00:50:28.820
Heading
00:50:29.000
Back
00:50:29.340
To
00:50:30.040
School
00:50:30.300
Here
00:50:30.580
Liberals
00:50:31.880
Have
00:50:31.980
Been
00:50:32.100
Making
00:50:32.460
Some
00:50:32.820
Big
00:50:33.360
Promises
00:50:33.780
Making
00:50:34.040
Their
00:50:34.220
Priorities
00:50:34.560
Very
00:50:34.760
Clear
00:50:34.960
Particularly
00:50:35.400
With
00:50:35.720
Their
00:50:35.840
Projects
00:50:36.320
List
00:50:36.480
This
00:50:36.680
Week
00:50:36.900
Has
00:50:39.360
Been
00:50:39.620
A
00:50:39.820
Winning
00:50:40.120
Message
00:50:40.480
So
00:50:40.760
Far
00:50:41.000
From
00:50:41.160
The
00:50:41.260
Prime
00:50:41.460
Minister
00:50:41.660
What's
00:50:41.980
Been
00:50:42.080
Your
00:50:42.220
Takeaway
00:50:42.980
From
00:50:43.240
All
00:50:43.400
Of
00:50:43.520
These
00:50:43.780
Big
00:50:44.920
Promises
00:50:45.500
That
00:50:45.740
Have
00:50:45.860
Been
00:50:45.960
Made
00:50:46.160
So
00:50:46.340
Far
00:50:46.540
Before
00:50:46.760
The
00:50:46.920
Budget
00:50:47.120
Is
00:50:47.300
Table
00:50:47.540
So
00:50:48.920
I
00:50:49.180
Do
00:50:49.700
Think
00:50:50.020
It
00:50:50.120
Is
00:50:50.220
Winning
00:50:50.660
Message
00:50:51.380
But
00:50:52.240
I
00:50:52.380
Think
00:50:52.620
That
00:50:52.760
Is
00:50:53.020
Short
00:50:53.940
Lived
00:50:54.340
Because
00:50:54.700
Ultimately
00:50:55.180
The
00:50:55.500
List
00:50:55.740
That
00:50:55.900
Came
00:50:56.060
Out
00:50:56.220
This
00:50:56.400
Week
00:50:56.620
Was
00:50:56.860
Surprisingly
00:50:57.440
Unambitious
00:50:58.280
In
00:50:58.720
My
00:50:58.860
Opinion
00:50:59.280
While
00:51:00.060
It's
00:51:00.340
Great
00:51:00.740
That
00:51:00.940
These
00:51:01.120
Projects
00:51:01.580
Are
00:51:01.680
Finally
00:51:01.960
Moving
00:51:02.260
Forward
00:51:02.640
I
00:51:02.880
Think
00:51:03.100
That
00:51:03.280
The
00:51:03.660
Projects
00:51:04.120
That
00:51:04.240
Were
00:51:04.400
Selected
00:51:05.100
For
00:51:05.420
The
00:51:05.560
First
00:51:05.800
Batch
00:51:06.140
Would
00:51:07.000
In
00:51:07.180
Any
00:51:07.640
Other
00:51:07.880
Government
00:51:08.260
In
00:51:08.660
Any
00:51:08.820
Other
00:51:09.040
Time
00:51:09.560
Would
00:51:10.280
Have
00:51:10.420
Been
00:51:10.760
Advanced
00:51:11.480
As
00:51:12.000
Well
00:51:12.260
They
00:51:12.960
Were
00:51:13.080
Already
00:51:13.380
So
00:51:13.660
Far
00:51:13.900
Along
00:51:14.460
That
00:51:14.840
They
00:51:15.320
Probably
00:51:15.760
Didn't
00:51:15.940
Even
00:51:16.100
Need
00:51:16.660
That
00:51:17.100
Much
00:51:17.340
Help
00:51:17.660
To
00:51:18.460
Get
00:51:18.620
Those
00:51:18.840
Projects
00:51:19.260
Done
00:51:19.460
So
00:51:19.600
I
00:51:19.700
Think
00:51:19.860
It
00:51:20.220
Was
00:51:20.380
A
00:51:20.500
Bit
00:51:20.600
Unambitious
00:51:21.140
Because
00:51:21.900
There
00:51:22.240
Are
00:51:22.360
Really
00:51:22.560
There
00:51:22.740
Are
00:51:22.800
A lot
00:51:23.020
Of
00:51:23.100
Other
00:51:23.320
Projects
00:51:23.720
That
00:51:23.820
Actually
00:51:24.080
Need
00:51:24.460
Government
00:51:25.160
Help
00:51:25.560
To
00:51:26.700
Get
00:51:26.940
Them
00:51:27.240
Moving
00:51:28.040
The
00:51:29.400
Ring
00:51:29.560
Of
00:51:29.660
Fire
00:51:29.840
Is
00:51:30.080
A
00:51:30.340
Great
00:51:30.520
Example
00:51:30.920
Of
00:51:31.100
That
00:51:31.340
We
00:51:31.800
Need
00:51:32.040
To
00:51:32.240
Be
00:51:32.400
Sending
00:51:32.980
Signals
00:51:33.740
To
00:51:34.060
The
00:51:34.240
Market
00:51:34.540
To
00:51:34.860
Get
00:51:35.020
Mining
00:51:35.260
Companies
00:51:35.620
To
00:51:36.120
Be
00:51:36.920
A
00:51:37.120
Lot
00:51:37.220
More
00:51:37.360
Interested
00:51:37.740
In
00:51:38.080
In
00:51:38.100
In
00:51:38.380
Coming
00:51:38.520
And
00:51:38.680
Investing
00:51:39.160
Here
00:51:39.460
And
00:51:39.780
Doing
00:51:40.140
A
00:51:40.360
Lot
00:51:40.500
Of
00:51:40.640
The
00:51:40.840
Work
00:51:41.540
That
00:51:41.720
Is
00:51:41.860
Needed
00:51:42.260
To
00:51:42.540
Set
00:51:43.840
Up
00:51:44.040
A
00:51:44.720
Mine
00:51:45.320
And
00:51:45.700
We
00:51:46.060
Haven't
00:51:46.260
Opened
00:51:46.860
A
00:51:46.980
New
00:51:47.100
Mine
00:51:47.360
In
00:51:47.500
This
00:51:47.640
Country
00:51:47.920
Like
00:51:48.100
Critical
00:51:48.440
Minerals
00:51:48.940
Mine
00:51:49.280
In
00:51:49.480
Over
00:51:50.020
A
00:51:50.240
Decade
00:51:50.640
Nothing
00:51:51.260
Has
00:51:51.440
Been
00:51:51.560
Built
00:51:52.060
And
00:51:52.360
So
00:51:52.520
On
00:51:53.020
One
00:51:53.220
Hand
00:51:53.480
I
00:51:54.120
Am
00:51:54.240
Enthusiastic
00:51:54.860
That
00:51:55.740
At
00:51:56.200
Least
00:51:56.400
Things
00:51:56.760
Are
00:51:56.900
Starting
00:51:57.180
To
00:51:57.600
Move
00:51:58.340
It
00:51:58.520
Looks
00:51:58.720
Like
00:51:58.980
But
00:51:59.880
On
00:52:00.000
The
00:52:00.080
Other
00:52:00.220
Hand
00:52:00.500
I
00:52:00.680
Wonder
00:52:01.160
Are
00:52:01.680
Are
00:52:01.860
They
00:52:02.280
Really
00:52:02.480
Just
00:52:02.680
Picking
00:52:02.960
Projects
00:52:03.580
That
00:52:03.800
They
00:52:04.000
Know
00:52:04.240
Are
00:52:04.400
Going
00:52:04.500
To
00:52:04.560
Get
00:52:04.660
Built
00:52:04.840
Anyway
00:52:05.180
So
00:52:05.400
That
00:52:05.540
They
00:52:05.700
Can
00:52:05.900
Stand
00:52:06.280
In
00:52:06.440
Front
00:52:06.600
Of
00:52:06.720
It
00:52:06.860
With
00:52:07.000
A
00:52:07.120
Shovel
00:52:07.420
And
00:52:07.580
Say
00:52:07.720
Oh
00:52:07.880
Look
00:52:08.020
What
00:52:08.140
We
00:52:08.260
Did
00:52:08.500
Yeah
00:52:09.900
Well
00:52:10.460
I
00:52:10.560
Similarly
00:52:11.080
Kind of
00:52:11.340
Think
00:52:11.460
Of
00:52:32.280
For
00:52:32.700
LNG
00:52:33.600
Seen
00:52:34.120
That
00:52:34.360
Before
00:52:34.680
So
00:52:34.980
To
00:52:35.180
Me
00:52:35.300
It
00:52:35.440
Was
00:52:35.580
More
00:52:35.980
Kind
00:52:36.780
Of
00:52:36.880
A
00:52:37.000
Lack
00:52:37.300
Of
00:52:37.440
Imagination
00:52:38.320
However
00:52:39.320
However
00:52:40.480
If
00:52:41.020
You
00:52:41.140
Look
00:52:41.340
At
00:52:41.440
The
00:52:41.580
Polling
00:52:42.160
Mark
00:52:43.500
Carney
00:52:43.900
Is
00:52:44.480
Really
00:52:45.140
Really
00:52:45.620
Popular
00:52:46.280
And
00:52:47.380
So
00:52:47.680
To
00:52:47.980
Are
00:52:48.180
Liberals
00:52:48.700
You
00:52:48.840
Know
00:52:48.940
You
00:52:49.040
Had
00:52:49.160
This
00:52:49.380
Nanos
00:52:49.940
And
00:52:50.120
Abacus
00:52:50.760
Dip
00:52:51.280
A
00:52:51.680
Couple
00:52:51.900
Weeks
00:52:52.340
Ago
00:52:52.640
That
00:52:53.220
Disappeared
00:52:54.260
I
00:52:55.340
Note
00:52:55.740
As
00:52:56.280
Pierre
00:52:56.560
Polyev
00:52:57.000
Has
00:52:57.140
Return
00:52:57.520
To
00:52:57.720
The
00:52:57.860
Stage
00:52:58.380
That
00:52:58.800
Disappeared
00:52:59.560
And
00:53:00.240
The
00:53:00.400
Liberals
00:53:00.760
Have
00:53:00.940
A
00:53:01.060
Commanding
00:53:01.500
Lead
00:53:01.780
And
00:53:01.920
Elections
00:53:02.440
Held
00:53:02.640
Today
00:53:02.900
They
00:53:03.080
Win
00:53:03.280
A
00:53:03.420
Huge
00:53:03.680
Majority
00:53:04.360
So
00:53:05.200
You
00:53:06.280
Know
00:53:06.400
They
00:53:06.600
May
00:53:06.840
Be
00:53:07.240
Sucking
00:53:08.460
And
00:53:08.660
Blowing
00:53:08.880
At
00:53:09.020
The
00:53:09.140
Same
00:53:09.380
Time
00:53:09.760
Talking
00:53:10.040
About
00:53:10.220
Austerity
00:53:10.820
And
00:53:10.980
Investment
00:53:11.820
In
00:53:12.080
The
00:53:12.200
Same
00:53:12.440
Breath
00:53:12.780
It's
00:53:13.140
Ridiculous
00:53:13.780
It's
00:53:14.040
Against
00:53:14.280
All
00:53:15.260
The
00:53:15.540
Rules
00:53:16.060
Of
00:53:16.260
Political
00:53:16.800
Physics
00:53:17.440
You
00:53:18.440
Don't
00:53:18.640
Have
00:53:18.940
Two
00:53:19.180
Contradictory
00:53:19.920
Statements
00:53:20.440
In
00:53:20.620
A
00:53:20.740
Single
00:53:20.980
Sentence
00:53:21.500
But
00:53:22.100
They
00:53:22.240
Been
00:53:22.440
Doing
00:53:22.780
It
00:53:23.080
And
00:53:23.280
They're
00:53:23.420
Getting
00:53:23.640
Away
00:53:23.940
With
00:53:24.180
It
00:53:24.360
So
00:53:24.700
I
00:53:25.260
Think
00:53:25.400
For
00:53:25.540
The
00:53:25.680
Time
00:53:25.940
Being
00:53:26.320
Mark
00:53:26.940
Carney
00:53:27.340
Is
00:53:28.600
Flying
00:53:28.900
With
00:53:29.100
The
00:53:29.220
Angels
00:53:29.600
People
00:53:30.120
Think
00:53:30.400
He
00:53:30.520
Can
00:53:30.660
Do
00:53:30.820
No
00:53:31.020
Wrong
00:53:31.260
Yeah
00:53:31.980
In
00:53:32.240
All
00:53:32.400
Of
00:53:32.500
These
00:53:32.620
And
00:53:32.820
The
00:53:32.960
Ipsos
00:53:33.300
Poll
00:53:33.480
That
00:53:33.660
You're
00:53:33.800
Kind of
00:53:34.040
Referencing
00:53:34.460
There
00:53:34.640
Too
00:53:34.860
If
00:53:35.000
People
00:53:35.160
Wanted
00:53:35.360
To
00:53:35.460
Check
00:53:35.640
That
00:53:35.820
Out
00:53:35.960
Just
00:53:36.100
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00:53:36.200
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00:53:36.300
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00:53:36.460
This
00:53:36.640
Weekend
00:53:36.960
Talk
00:53:37.220
About
00:53:37.400
The
00:53:37.580
Support
00:53:37.940
For
00:53:38.120
The
00:53:38.260
Carney
00:53:38.420
Government
00:53:38.760
And
00:53:39.480
We'll
00:53:39.600
See
00:53:39.780
Kind of
00:53:40.020
How
00:53:40.140
Long
00:53:40.380
That
00:53:40.560
Last
00:53:40.860
Heading
00:53:41.080
Into
00:53:41.300
This
00:53:41.480
I'm
00:53:41.640
Very
00:53:42.120
Interested
00:53:42.400
To
00:53:42.540
See
00:53:42.660
What
00:53:42.820
The
00:53:42.960
Budget
00:53:43.220
Will
00:53:43.400
Say
00:53:43.540
After
00:53:43.700
All
00:53:43.840
These
00:53:43.960
Big
00:53:44.160
Promises
00:53:44.620
Where
00:53:45.000
The
00:53:45.240
Savings
00:53:46.060
Is
00:53:46.200
Going
00:53:46.400
To
00:53:46.540
Be
00:53:46.660
Found
00:53:46.920
But
00:53:47.160
Carl
00:53:48.060
Just
00:53:48.280
Your
00:53:48.560
Thoughts
00:53:48.860
On
00:53:49.040
The
00:53:49.540
Major
00:53:49.940
Projects
00:53:50.380
That
00:53:50.480
Were
00:53:50.580
Announced
00:53:50.840
This
00:53:51.020
Weekend
00:53:51.280
The
00:53:51.400
Liberals
00:53:51.640
Kind of
00:53:51.940
messaging
00:53:52.360
Here
00:53:52.800
As
00:53:53.580
We
00:53:53.700
Head
00:53:53.860
Into
00:53:54.040
Parliament
00:53:54.420
Well
00:53:55.000
The
00:53:55.180
Key
00:53:55.580
Sentence
00:53:56.260
And
00:53:56.400
What
00:53:56.540
Warren
00:53:56.780
Just
00:53:56.980
Said
00:53:57.220
Is
00:53:57.480
Getting
00:53:57.860
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00:53:58.320
With
00:53:58.580
It
00:53:58.800
And
00:53:59.060
They
00:53:59.220
Are
00:53:59.420
Getting
00:53:59.680
Away
00:53:59.960
With
00:54:00.180
It
00:54:00.360
And
00:54:01.100
You
00:54:01.700
Know
00:54:01.800
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00:54:02.000
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00:54:02.200
Keep
00:54:02.420
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00:54:02.680
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00:54:02.900
Direction
00:54:03.300
They
00:54:03.500
May
00:54:03.660
Not
00:54:03.920
Eventually
00:54:04.420
Because
00:54:04.780
People
00:54:05.040
Realize
00:54:05.580
That
00:54:05.760
There's
00:54:06.040
Nothing
00:54:06.300
Behind
00:54:06.660
It
00:54:06.900
I
00:54:07.900
Mean
00:54:08.040
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00:54:08.240
Have
00:54:08.420
A
00:54:08.540
New
00:54:08.720
Government
00:54:09.100
That
00:54:09.380
Is
00:54:09.560
Fast
00:54:09.900
Tracking
00:54:10.240
Project
00:54:10.700
And
00:54:11.160
They're
00:54:11.300
So
00:54:11.520
Efficient
00:54:11.860
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00:54:12.120
It
00:54:12.240
That
00:54:12.380
Everything
00:54:12.640
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00:54:12.940
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00:54:13.220
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00:54:13.620
Has
00:54:14.300
Been
00:54:14.500
Approved
00:54:15.100
Already
00:54:15.480
That's
00:54:16.120
How
00:54:16.260
Efficient
00:54:16.580
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00:54:16.860
Are
00:54:17.120
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00:54:17.920
Mine
00:54:18.440
There
00:54:18.760
In
00:54:18.920
Saskatchewan
00:54:19.500
Is
00:54:19.660
Opening
00:54:19.900
In
00:54:20.240
Six
00:54:20.520
Month
00:54:20.840
Like
00:54:21.340
Wow
00:54:21.740
That's
00:54:22.460
A
00:54:22.580
Very
00:54:22.820
Efficient
00:54:23.120
Government
00:54:23.560
Right
00:54:23.880
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00:54:24.120
So
00:54:24.720
The
00:54:25.020
Problem
00:54:25.320
And
00:54:25.460
Of
00:54:25.600
Course
00:54:25.760
Politicians
00:54:26.280
Love
00:54:26.760
To
00:54:26.980
Announce
00:54:27.380
And
00:54:27.520
Reannounce
00:54:28.060
And
00:54:28.240
Reannounce
00:54:28.740
The same
00:54:29.540
Project
00:54:29.940
To
00:54:30.160
Get
00:54:30.300
The
00:54:30.880
Political
00:54:31.120
Credit
00:54:31.500
For
00:54:31.840
It
00:54:31.980
But
00:54:32.180
Unless
00:54:33.640
There's
00:54:34.040
Something
00:54:34.340
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00:54:34.860
And
00:54:35.040
New
00:54:35.300
And
00:54:35.500
Major
00:54:35.800
That
00:54:36.020
Comes
00:54:36.280
In
00:54:36.580
This
00:54:37.120
Whole
00:54:37.360
Major
00:54:38.580
Project
00:54:39.220
Office
00:54:40.580
And
00:54:41.400
Process
00:54:42.060
Will
00:54:42.760
Amount
00:54:43.060
To
00:54:43.200
Nothing
00:54:43.500
And
00:54:43.980
Things
00:54:44.720
Will
00:54:44.900
Start
00:54:45.120
To
00:54:45.320
Shift
00:54:45.680
If
00:54:46.360
They
00:54:46.520
Go
00:54:47.140
Ahead
00:54:47.560
With
00:54:47.780
An
00:54:48.020
Austerity
00:54:48.480
Budget
00:54:48.880
That
00:54:50.280
Cuts
00:54:50.600
Into
00:54:50.880
Direct
00:54:52.080
Services
00:54:52.420
To
00:54:52.620
Canadians
00:54:53.000
And
00:54:53.380
When
00:54:53.540
People
00:54:53.800
Start
00:54:54.140
To
00:54:54.360
Suffer
00:54:55.300
For
00:54:55.520
It
00:54:55.660
They
00:54:55.840
Start
00:54:56.160
To
00:54:56.340
Lose
00:54:56.620
Access
00:54:56.900
To
00:54:57.140
Services
00:54:57.520
And
00:54:58.480
On
00:54:59.280
The
00:54:59.400
Other
00:54:59.560
Hand
00:54:59.860
We
00:55:00.720
Start
00:55:01.020
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00:55:01.420
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00:55:01.780
Heavier
00:55:02.120
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00:55:02.600
Price
00:55:03.060
With
00:55:03.300
Lost
00:55:03.640
Jobs
00:55:04.260
Because
00:55:04.880
Of
00:55:05.060
The
00:55:05.200
Trade
00:55:05.440
War
00:55:05.660
With
00:55:05.880
The
00:55:05.980
United
00:55:06.200
States
00:55:06.620
Those
00:55:07.180
Are
00:55:07.300
The
00:55:07.420
Key
00:55:07.620
Things
00:55:08.040
If
00:55:08.400
They're
00:55:08.860
Not
00:55:09.060
Able
00:55:09.320
To
00:55:09.500
Reverse
00:55:09.860
That
00:55:10.080
Trend
00:55:10.420
And
00:55:10.900
They're
00:55:11.200
Cutting
00:55:11.600
Into
00:55:11.760
Services
00:55:12.180
At
00:55:12.400
The
00:55:12.500
Same
00:55:12.740
Time
00:55:13.060
They
00:55:13.660
Will
00:55:13.900
Pay
00:55:14.120
The
00:55:14.280
Political
00:55:14.520
Price
00:55:14.920
It
00:55:15.060
Guarantees
00:55:15.580
And
00:55:16.740
I
00:55:16.820
Wanted to
00:55:17.100
Squeeze
00:55:17.320
In
00:55:17.440
One
00:55:17.560
More
00:55:17.700
To
00:55:18.040
To
00:55:18.140
Ask
00:55:18.460
You
00:55:18.560
Before
00:55:18.920
We
00:55:19.120
Head
00:55:19.880
Back
00:55:20.100
To
00:55:20.260
Parliament
00:55:20.580
You
00:55:20.960
You
00:55:21.280
Can
00:55:22.700
Pick
00:55:22.880
More
00:55:23.020
One
00:55:23.300
Answer
00:55:23.520
Which
00:55:24.320
Party
00:55:24.560
Do
00:55:24.720
You
00:55:24.760
Think
00:55:24.880
Has
00:55:25.060
The
00:55:25.180
Biggest
00:55:25.360
Challenge
00:55:25.660
Entering
00:55:26.000
Parliament
00:55:26.340
Here
00:55:26.560
For
00:55:26.720
This
00:55:26.900
Session
00:55:27.200
Is
00:55:27.760
It
00:55:27.880
Poliev
00:55:28.200
Trying
00:55:28.440
To
00:55:28.580
Find
00:55:28.780
The
00:55:29.020
Contrast
00:55:30.020
With
00:55:30.240
Carney
00:55:30.540
Is
00:55:30.780
It
00:55:30.880
The
00:55:30.980
Liberals
00:55:31.280
Governing
00:55:31.680
In
00:55:31.800
A
00:55:31.900
Minority
00:55:32.280
State
00:55:32.600
Is
00:55:32.820
The
00:55:33.060
NDP
00:55:33.320
Finding
00:55:33.640
Relevance
00:55:34.700
Again
00:55:34.920
What
00:55:35.520
Do
00:55:35.660
You
00:55:35.740
See
00:55:35.860
As
00:55:36.000
The
00:55:36.380
Biggest
00:55:36.620
Challenge
00:55:36.960
Which
00:55:37.420
Party
00:55:37.760
Well
00:55:38.420
I
00:55:53.520
That
00:55:53.760
Confidence
00:55:54.700
Vote
00:55:55.040
In
00:55:55.640
The
00:55:55.740
Coming
00:55:55.940
Month
00:55:56.320
For
00:55:57.520
His
00:55:57.660
Own
00:55:57.820
Survival
00:55:58.380
And
00:55:58.700
After
00:56:00.360
The
00:56:00.620
General
00:56:00.900
Election
00:56:01.300
He
00:56:01.520
Kind
00:56:01.700
Disappeared
00:56:02.340
He
00:56:02.480
Was
00:56:02.900
Out
00:56:03.300
Of
00:56:03.420
This
00:56:03.700
Limelight
00:56:04.480
And
00:56:04.680
He
00:56:04.780
Was
00:56:04.940
No
00:56:05.100
Longer
00:56:05.520
The
00:56:06.880
Aggressive
00:56:07.360
Pierre
00:56:07.640
Poirier
00:56:07.820
We
00:56:08.100
Knew
00:56:08.320
But
00:56:08.640
Since
00:56:09.580
His
00:56:10.320
Re-election
00:56:10.840
Since
00:56:11.160
The
00:56:11.320
By-election
00:56:11.880
That
00:56:12.780
Persona
00:56:13.240
Came
00:56:14.060
Back
00:56:14.660
So
00:56:15.300
If
00:56:15.660
People
00:56:15.840
Were
00:56:16.000
Expecting
00:56:16.360
A
00:56:16.480
So
00:56:17.400
So
00:56:17.440
So
00:56:17.480
So
00:56:17.960
So
00:56:18.440
So
00:56:18.840
So
00:56:19.400
So
00:56:19.440
So
00:56:19.480
More
00:56:19.860
More
00:56:20.180
Measured
00:56:20.900
Pierre
00:56:21.180
Poirier
00:56:21.600
Coming
00:56:22.000
Back
00:56:22.220
To
00:56:22.360
Parliament
00:56:22.740
Pierre
00:56:23.400
Poirier
00:56:23.740
2.0
00:56:24.540
I
00:56:25.320
Think
00:56:25.520
That
00:56:25.700
Guy
00:56:25.900
Is
00:56:26.020
Not
00:56:26.200
Going
00:56:26.400
To
00:56:26.460
Show
00:56:26.660
Up
00:56:26.860
I
00:56:27.000
Think
00:56:27.180
He
00:56:27.300
Going
00:56:27.380
To
00:56:27.420
See
00:56:27.560
The
00:56:27.740
Good
00:56:27.940
Old
00:56:28.200
Pierre
00:56:28.420
Poirier
00:56:28.760
With
00:56:29.100
His
00:56:29.260
Rhetoric
00:56:29.720
And
00:56:29.920
His
00:56:30.080
Attacks
00:56:30.440
And
00:56:30.580
His
00:56:30.700
One
00:56:30.920
Liners
00:56:31.360
Because
00:56:31.820
That's
00:56:32.140
The
00:56:32.260
Way
00:56:32.440
He
00:56:32.560
Debates
00:56:32.920
That
00:56:33.920
Might
00:56:34.160
Be
00:56:34.320
A
00:56:34.460
Missed
00:56:34.640
Opportunity
00:56:35.200
To
00:56:35.480
Rebrand
00:56:36.160
And
00:56:36.380
Give
00:56:36.740
Another
00:56:37.060
New
00:56:37.380
Impression
00:56:37.900
As
00:56:38.500
The
00:56:38.660
New
00:56:38.860
Leader
00:56:39.120
Of
00:56:39.340
Official
00:56:39.660
Opposition
00:56:40.200
But
00:56:41.740
We'll
00:56:42.360
Have
00:56:42.520
To
00:56:42.600
See
00:56:42.740
What
00:56:42.880
Happens
00:56:43.220
On
00:56:43.420
Monday
00:56:43.920
Absolutely
00:56:44.780
And
00:56:45.240
Warren
00:56:45.700
Your
00:56:46.160
Thoughts
00:56:46.440
On
00:56:46.540
Who
00:56:46.660
Faces
00:56:46.980
The
00:56:47.220
Biggest
00:56:47.600
Challenge
00:56:47.960
Here
00:56:48.160
Is
00:56:48.300
A
00:56:48.580
Party
00:56:48.800
Heading
00:56:49.000
Into
00:56:49.140
Parliament
00:56:49.420
Well
00:56:50.500
We
00:56:50.700
Can
00:56:50.880
Take
00:56:51.140
The
00:56:51.320
Liberal
00:56:51.560
Party
00:56:51.940
Off
00:56:52.220
The
00:56:52.320
List
00:56:52.860
Because
00:56:53.540
They
00:56:53.820
Want
00:56:54.100
They're
00:56:54.960
Leading
00:56:55.600
A
00:56:55.800
Charmed
00:56:56.140
Existence
00:56:56.760
At
00:56:56.920
The
00:56:57.040
Moment
00:56:57.280
As
00:56:57.520
I
00:56:57.640
Just
00:56:57.800
Pointed
00:56:58.160
Out
00:56:58.380
But
00:56:59.480
You
00:56:59.620
Know
00:56:59.700
The
00:56:59.860
NDP
00:57:00.300
Is
00:57:00.620
Having
00:57:00.860
Caucus
00:57:01.340
Meetings
00:57:01.760
And
00:57:01.940
Telephone
00:57:02.480
Boots
00:57:02.920
And
00:57:09.340
Has
00:57:09.780
Not
00:57:10.020
Learned
00:57:10.320
Any
00:57:10.520
The
00:57:10.720
Lessons
00:57:11.160
From
00:57:11.360
The
00:57:11.500
Last
00:57:11.760
Election
00:57:12.220
So
00:57:13.320
They
00:57:13.860
Both
00:57:14.160
Have
00:57:14.360
A
00:57:14.500
Big
00:57:14.660
Problem
00:57:15.000
The
00:57:15.180
NDP
00:57:15.580
The
00:57:15.860
Party
00:57:16.120
Itself
00:57:16.640
And
00:57:17.220
The
00:57:17.360
Conservatives
00:57:18.080
Their
00:57:18.440
Their
00:57:18.860
Leader
00:57:19.220
I
00:57:20.780
Actually
00:57:21.260
Believe
00:57:21.760
That
00:57:22.120
The
00:57:22.280
NDP
00:57:22.720
Is
00:57:23.640
Probably
00:57:24.240
Going
00:57:24.700
To
00:57:24.960
Nudge
00:57:25.260
Ahead
00:57:25.640
Quicker
00:57:26.240
I
00:57:26.760
Suspect
00:57:27.140
They're
00:57:27.360
Going
00:57:27.460
To
00:57:27.540
Pick
00:57:27.780
Abby
00:57:28.060
Lewis
00:57:28.380
As
00:57:28.620
Their
00:57:28.820
Leader
00:57:29.160
That
00:57:29.780
Would
00:57:29.900
Be
00:57:30.060
The
00:57:30.380
Least
00:57:31.800
Dumb
00:57:32.320
Thing
00:57:32.620
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00:57:32.840
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00:57:33.100
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00:57:33.380
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00:57:33.460
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00:57:33.580
Field
00:57:33.880
They've
00:57:34.340
Got
00:57:34.560
Some
00:57:35.120
Lunatics
00:57:39.340
He's
00:57:39.400
A
00:57:39.520
Builder
00:57:39.860
And
00:57:39.980
He's
00:57:40.120
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00:57:40.140
Great
00:57:40.320
Communicator
00:57:41.080
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00:57:41.920
Benefit
00:57:42.260
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00:57:42.420
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00:57:42.600
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They're
00:57:42.860
Going
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00:57:43.320
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00:57:43.540
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00:57:43.880
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00:57:44.240
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00:57:44.660
Needle
00:57:44.880
To
00:57:45.060
The
00:57:45.180
Right
00:57:45.420
You
00:57:45.720
Know
00:57:45.860
Carney
00:57:46.160
Is
00:57:46.360
A
00:57:46.480
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00:57:47.000
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00:57:47.480
And
00:57:48.480
You
00:57:48.620
Know
00:57:48.720
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00:57:49.040
Tax
00:57:49.520
And
00:57:49.840
And
00:57:50.060
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00:57:50.360
Capital
00:57:50.680
Gains
00:57:51.100
And
00:57:51.280
Defense
00:57:51.620
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00:57:52.080
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00:57:52.320
So
00:57:52.560
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00:57:52.680
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00:57:52.820
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00:57:53.020
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00:57:53.240
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00:57:53.880
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00:57:54.460
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00:57:54.840
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00:57:55.320
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00:57:55.880
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00:57:56.100
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00:57:56.500
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00:57:58.140
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00:57:58.380
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00:57:58.720
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00:57:59.040
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00:57:59.200
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00:57:59.500
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00:58:00.000
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00:58:00.200
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00:58:00.440
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00:58:00.640
Know
00:58:00.720
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00:58:00.880
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00:58:01.160
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00:58:01.380
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00:58:01.740
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00:58:02.140
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00:58:02.380
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00:58:02.920
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00:58:03.440
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00:58:03.780
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00:58:03.940
In
00:58:04.080
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00:58:04.180
Globe
00:58:04.460
And
00:58:05.000
Said
00:58:05.200
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00:58:05.440
Mark
00:58:06.980
Carney
00:58:07.360
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00:58:07.840
Worse
00:58:09.240
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00:58:09.860
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00:58:10.420
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00:58:10.960
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00:58:12.020
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00:58:12.260
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00:58:12.840
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00:58:12.980
Know
00:58:13.080
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00:58:14.020
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00:58:14.380
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00:58:14.760
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00:58:14.940
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00:58:15.300
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00:58:15.920
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00:58:16.200
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00:58:16.420
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00:58:16.660
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00:58:16.800
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00:58:16.960
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00:58:17.140
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00:58:17.760
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00:58:18.500
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00:58:19.320
Ridiculous
00:58:20.300
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00:58:20.680
So
00:58:20.980
Pierre
00:58:21.580
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00:58:21.820
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00:58:22.020
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00:58:22.160
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00:58:22.240
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00:58:22.520
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00:58:23.160
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00:58:23.500
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00:58:23.800
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00:58:24.080
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00:58:24.280
Going
00:58:24.400
To
00:58:24.500
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00:58:24.800
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00:58:25.360
Elections
00:58:26.480
As
00:58:26.740
Long
00:58:26.940
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00:58:30.440
I
00:58:31.100
Think
00:58:31.580
Carney
00:58:31.880
Might
00:58:32.100
Have
00:58:32.400
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00:58:33.720
Lose
00:58:33.980
A
00:58:34.100
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00:58:34.200
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00:58:34.340
Of
00:58:34.400
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00:58:34.520
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00:58:34.740
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00:58:34.860
Coalition
00:58:35.260
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00:58:35.480
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00:58:35.600
Gained
00:58:35.780
Over
00:58:35.920
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00:58:36.060
Last
00:58:36.260
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00:58:36.480
Month
00:58:36.720
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00:58:37.400
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00:58:37.560
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00:58:37.680
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00:58:37.740
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00:58:37.820
Comments
00:58:38.100
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00:58:38.240
He's
00:58:38.400
Made
00:58:38.580
But
00:58:38.760
We'll
00:58:39.360
Leave
00:58:39.660
Last
00:58:40.160
Word
00:58:40.380
To
00:58:40.600
You
00:58:40.940
Melanie
00:58:41.180
Who
00:58:41.800
Has
00:58:42.100
The
00:58:42.200
Biggest
00:58:42.400
Challenge
00:58:42.720
Do you
00:58:42.920
Think
00:58:43.060
Heading
00:58:43.240
Into
00:58:43.460
This
00:58:43.660
Session
00:58:43.880
Of
00:58:44.040
Parliament
00:58:44.300
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00:58:45.900
I
00:58:46.160
Mean
00:58:46.260
Of
00:58:46.420
Course
00:58:46.620
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00:58:46.820
NDP
00:58:47.100
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00:58:47.480
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00:58:47.980
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00:58:48.180
Leader
00:58:48.400
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00:58:49.320
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00:58:49.660
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00:58:49.820
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00:58:49.960
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00:58:50.060
Challenge
00:58:50.500
For
00:58:50.740
Them
00:58:51.000
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00:58:51.340
Look
00:58:51.600
I
00:58:51.880
Do
00:58:52.240
Think
00:58:52.520
That
00:58:52.760
The
00:58:53.040
Conservatives
00:58:53.680
Are
00:58:54.220
Struggling
00:58:55.320
A bit
00:58:55.660
To
00:58:55.900
Find
00:58:56.320
An
00:58:57.240
Effective
00:58:57.760
Way
00:58:58.100
To
00:58:58.800
Attack
00:58:59.480
And
00:58:59.720
Counter
00:59:00.180
Mark
00:59:00.900
Carney
00:59:01.160
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00:59:01.340
Part
00:59:01.460
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00:59:01.760
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00:59:02.120
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00:59:02.760
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00:59:03.280
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00:59:04.440
Check
00:59:05.340
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00:59:05.620
Off
00:59:05.960
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00:59:06.120
Board
00:59:06.380
Every
00:59:06.640
Time
00:59:06.960
Pierre
00:59:07.540
Polyev
00:59:07.900
Comes
00:59:08.140
Forward
00:59:08.460
With
00:59:08.600
A
00:59:08.700
New
00:59:08.960
Issue
00:59:10.340
Set
00:59:10.700
Carney
00:59:11.640
Is
00:59:12.040
Really
00:59:12.420
Quick
00:59:13.000
To
00:59:13.420
Address
00:59:14.120
It
00:59:14.260
With
00:59:14.460
His
00:59:14.680
Own
00:59:14.880
Policy
00:59:15.200
Announcement
00:59:15.580
For
00:59:15.880
Example
00:59:16.200
Today
00:59:16.640
There's
00:59:17.420
Going
00:59:17.520
To
00:59:17.540
An
00:59:17.740
Announcement
00:59:18.300
From
00:59:18.740
Federal
00:59:20.500
So
00:59:21.320
Carney
00:59:22.060
Is
00:59:22.180
Clearly
00:59:22.440
Trying
00:59:22.780
To
00:59:22.920
Get
00:59:23.080
Ahead
00:59:23.520
Of
00:59:24.260
Pierre
00:59:24.500
Polyev
00:59:24.840
To
00:59:25.000
Take
00:59:25.320
Those
00:59:25.980
Key
00:59:26.660
Messaging
00:59:27.420
Opportunities
00:59:28.140
Away
00:59:28.320
From
00:59:28.480
Him
00:59:28.640
The
00:59:29.120
Benefit
00:59:30.360
Though
00:59:30.660
For
00:59:31.020
Pierre
00:59:31.320
Polyev
00:59:31.640
Is
00:59:31.760
He
00:59:32.000
Still
00:59:32.380
Has
00:59:32.620
A
00:59:32.780
Winning
00:59:33.160
Issue
00:59:33.940
Set
00:59:34.240
On
00:59:34.500
Crime
00:59:34.940
Law
00:59:35.740
And
00:59:35.860
Order
00:59:36.080
In
00:59:36.240
This
00:59:36.380
Country
00:59:36.720
And
00:59:37.300
The
00:59:37.620
Need
00:59:38.180
For
00:59:38.400
Bail
00:59:38.840
Reform
00:59:39.300
Is
00:59:40.300
Really
00:59:40.780
A
00:59:41.260
Significant
00:59:41.640
Issue
00:59:41.980
For
00:59:42.180
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00:59:42.340
Lot
00:59:42.500
Of
00:59:42.620
Canadians
00:59:43.000
And
00:59:43.300
So
00:59:43.400
I
00:59:43.540
Think
00:59:43.740
As
00:59:44.440
Long
00:59:44.640
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00:59:44.800
Pierre
00:59:45.140
Polyev
00:59:45.420
Stays
00:59:45.740
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00:59:46.200
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00:59:46.440
Crime
00:59:46.700
Agenda
00:59:47.060
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00:59:47.300
Got
00:59:47.640
A
00:59:47.800
Winning
00:59:48.080
Issue
00:59:48.440
Set
00:59:48.780
And
00:59:50.300
We'll
00:59:50.440
See
00:59:50.620
Which
00:59:50.840
Issues
00:59:51.180
Kind
00:59:51.380
Of
00:59:51.460
Crop
00:59:51.700
Up
00:59:51.980
That
00:59:52.540
Each
00:59:53.160
Party
00:59:53.420
Will
00:59:53.580
Kind
00:59:53.780
Of
00:59:53.840
Harping
00:59:54.240
On
00:59:54.420
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00:59:54.580
But
00:59:54.800
We'll
00:59:55.060
Leave it
00:59:55.280
There
00:59:55.380
For
00:59:55.520
Today
00:59:55.720
Carl
00:59:56.200
Boulanger
00:59:56.520
Warren
00:59:56.860
Kinsella
00:59:57.220
And
00:59:57.420
Melody
00:59:57.660
Parody
00:59:57.920
Thank
00:59:58.200
You
00:59:58.320
So
00:59:58.500
Much
00:59:58.680
For
00:59:58.800
Your
00:59:58.900
Time
00:59:59.120
Today
00:59:59.340
I
00:59:59.480
Really
00:59:59.660
Appreciate
01:00:00.000
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01:00:00.480
Thank
01:00:00.780
You
01:00:00.980
Carl
01:00:01.880
Is
01:00:02.020
The
01:00:02.140
President
01:00:02.360
At
01:00:02.560
Traction
01:00:02.880
Strategies
01:00:03.420
Warren
01:00:03.640
Kinsella
01:00:04.000
Is
01:00:04.200
A
01:00:04.300
Strategist
01:00:04.740
And
01:00:04.860
Post
01:00:05.040
Media
01:00:05.240
Columnist
01:00:05.680
As
01:00:05.820
He
01:00:05.940
mentioned
01:00:06.180
You
01:00:06.640
Can
01:00:06.760
Read
01:00:06.880
His
01:00:07.060
Latest
01:00:07.340
In
01:00:07.540
The
01:00:07.640
Toronto
01:00:07.920
Sun
01:00:08.200
This
01:00:08.400
Morning
01:00:08.640
Reacting
01:00:09.220
To
01:00:09.360
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01:00:09.460
Death
01:00:09.680
Of
01:00:10.400
Conservative
01:00:10.800
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01:00:11.260
Charlie
01:00:11.540
Kirk
01:00:11.940
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01:00:12.280
Of
01:00:12.380
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01:00:12.460
Border
01:00:12.680
And
01:00:12.880
Melanie
01:00:13.100
Parody
01:00:13.460
President
01:00:14.200
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01:00:14.600
Texture
01:00:14.920
Communications
01:00:15.540
Former
01:00:16.620
Staffer
01:00:17.060
In
01:00:17.220
Aero
01:00:17.460
Tools
01:00:17.940
Office
01:00:44.200
Message
01:00:45.120
I
01:00:45.440
Left
01:00:46.020
I
01:00:46.440
Hope
01:00:46.980
You
01:00:47.520
Will
01:00:48.240
It's
01:00:53.800
Kind
01:00:54.180
Of
01:00:54.640
Funny
01:00:55.340
I
01:00:56.180
Still
01:00:56.780
Mad
01:00:57.600
If
01:01:03.120
Anyone
01:01:03.720
Ask
01:01:04.480
You
01:01:05.020
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01:01:05.480
Not
01:01:06.020
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01:01:06.800
Someone
01:01:12.720
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01:01:13.120
Calling
01:01:13.860
Out
01:01:14.760
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01:01:15.380
Name
01:01:16.080
We
01:01:21.760
Live
01:01:21.960
Things
01:01:22.960
I
01:01:23.300
Burn
01:01:23.860
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01:01:24.400
Sign
01:01:25.180
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01:01:30.640
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01:01:30.820
Matter
01:01:31.240
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01:01:31.640
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01:01:32.140
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01:01:32.820
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01:01:33.420
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01:01:33.820
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01:01:34.540
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01:01:40.320
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01:01:40.740
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01:01:41.460
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01:01:41.820
Playing
01:01:42.640
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01:01:43.580
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01:02:07.980
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01:02:09.040
Walk
01:02:09.480
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01:02:10.080
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01:02:10.680
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01:02:11.200
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01:02:17.180
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01:02:17.480
I'll
01:02:17.880
Ever
01:02:18.380
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01:02:19.380
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01:02:19.800
End
01:02:20.600
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01:02:22.580
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01:02:23.420
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01:02:27.980
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01:02:28.760
Okay
01:02:29.720
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01:02:35.720
Mind
01:02:36.100
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01:02:36.900
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01:02:37.160
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01:02:37.460
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01:02:38.120
Way
01:02:39.100
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01:02:40.940
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01:02:45.940
About
01:02:46.700
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01:02:47.540
Said
01:02:48.320
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01:02:49.140
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01:02:49.840
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01:02:50.500
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01:02:51.240
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01:02:51.900
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01:02:53.860
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01:02:55.400
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01:02:55.980
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01:02:56.780
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01:02:57.580
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01:02:58.740
Stop
01:02:59.100
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01:02:59.740
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01:03:00.480
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01:03:00.840
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01:03:02.140
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01:03:02.720
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01:03:03.180
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01:03:04.320
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01:03:06.580
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01:03:07.080
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01:03:19.700
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01:03:21.860
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01:03:23.860
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01:03:30.480
May
01:03:32.600
This is the Ben Mulroney Show.
01:03:54.180
And one of the reasons people tune in to this show
01:03:56.940
is because we have some of the best political minds
01:03:59.860
joining us over the course of the week for our This Week in Politics panel.
01:04:03.760
This is the Friday edition, so please welcome Chris Chapin,
01:04:06.160
political commentator, managing principal of Upstream Strategy.
01:04:08.720
In a moment, we'll be joined by Warren Kinsella,
01:04:11.080
former special advisor to Jean Chrétien and CEO of the Daisy Group.
01:04:15.220
We'll get to Warren in just a moment,
01:04:17.340
but Chris, let's talk about the lightning speed with which the Americans,
01:04:22.800
the justice system went out there and found who they believe to be the assassin
01:04:27.940
who felled Charlie Kirk at the age of 31 on the campus of University of Western Utah
01:04:33.080
just a couple of days ago.
01:04:34.360
This didn't surprise me.
01:04:35.660
When you're on a first-name basis with the director of the FBI,
01:04:41.400
stuff's going to move pretty fast.
01:04:44.420
Yeah, absolutely, Ben.
01:04:45.640
And I think, you know, I would say to the FBI's credit,
01:04:49.200
there was a lot of political pressure.
01:04:51.480
There was a lot of media pressure on Kash Patel.
01:04:53.560
You know, there were a lot of people that didn't think
01:04:55.920
he was qualified to be the FBI director.
01:04:58.060
I mean, maybe the jury's still out on that,
01:05:00.300
but, you know, Twitter was abuzz early on
01:05:03.160
that he was making a mockery of this investigation
01:05:05.280
because he wasn't being transparent enough
01:05:07.620
or he was being too transparent,
01:05:09.020
depending on whether you thought his Twitter activity was appropriate or not.
01:05:12.400
They found this guy in 33 hours in the south, you know, west corner of Utah.
01:05:17.060
They kept things quiet.
01:05:18.480
They did things by, you know, what it seems by the book.
01:05:21.580
And they found their man and brought him to justice.
01:05:24.640
And I think the one thing that, you know,
01:05:25.860
I mean, obviously, he's just a suspect at this point,
01:05:27.900
but they did so safely.
01:05:29.760
You know, this wasn't the firefight that it was for the Sunaev brothers
01:05:33.200
when you think of the manhunt back to the Boston bombing.
01:05:35.400
They went out.
01:05:36.520
They did what they were supposed to do.
01:05:37.860
They brought in the public as they saw fit.
01:05:40.920
And ultimately, they got their guy.
01:05:42.720
And Warren Kinsella,
01:05:44.000
one of the reasons I'm more sure about this suspect being the guy
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than I might otherwise be is because he was turned in by his father,
01:05:53.280
which must have been the most difficult phone call
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that father has ever had to make.
01:05:59.940
Yeah.
01:06:00.480
And the same thing happened with the Unabomber's brother
01:06:03.200
turned him in many years ago.
01:06:06.000
So, yeah, I mean,
01:06:07.460
I guess the one of the good things about in the age of social media,
01:06:11.260
these stories go everywhere pretty fast.
01:06:13.900
Charlie Kirk's story has been one of the biggest stories in the world
01:06:16.520
in the past 48 hours.
01:06:17.920
So, and when they got that footage of the shooter
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running across the roof of the building
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and, you know, could identify his shoes and clothing and whatnot,
01:06:29.060
I thought, okay, they're close.
01:06:31.480
But, you know, Kash Patel and his leadership team at the FBI
01:06:37.560
screwed up initially.
01:06:39.800
And there was a lot of anger in the White House.
01:06:41.520
How so?
01:06:42.740
How did they screw up?
01:06:44.180
Because they said they had the guy yesterday.
01:06:47.720
Oh, right.
01:06:48.000
And then they didn't.
01:06:48.600
Yeah.
01:06:48.760
And he had to walk it back.
01:06:50.280
He made a mistake.
01:06:51.660
And you don't say you've got the guy when you don't.
01:06:54.340
So he looked like an idiot.
01:06:56.340
And so, you know,
01:06:58.120
but I mean, that's a consequence of the Trump era is, right,
01:07:00.980
they've let go a lot of,
01:07:03.180
there's a one former FBI agent I've worked with recently,
01:07:07.500
and she was saying that, you know,
01:07:09.800
they've let, in Utah in particular,
01:07:12.080
they've let go some experts who deal with these domestic terrorism situations.
01:07:17.800
So that's what we're talking about.
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And it makes it harder to find the bad guys.
01:07:21.980
So, but anyway, they, we've got a suspect, an alleged, you know, murderer.
01:07:28.940
And that's good.
01:07:30.260
And, you know, to all those people out there who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder,
01:07:35.740
shame on you.
01:07:37.240
And you're going to get found out.
01:07:39.940
And there's some people learning a hard lesson about celebrating murder this morning.
01:07:44.660
I mean, and look, we can make it about that.
01:07:46.760
I think there's just a more general sort of rule of thumb that people should live by,
01:07:51.000
which is not every thought you have needs to be shared on social media.
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If you live by that, by, by that, you're good.
01:07:58.360
Fewer people are going to get in trouble.
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Hey, if you're celebrating in your heart, okay, be that person.
01:08:03.220
But you don't have to let the world know.
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I don't understand this immediate.
01:08:08.840
I've got to be the first person to comment.
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And I have to have the hottest take.
01:08:13.520
It's the hottest take leads to the quickest takedowns.
01:08:16.760
And we don't even have to talk about that anymore because we've got a lot to get to,
01:08:20.240
including the first major projects have been identified as part of Mark Carney's massive,
01:08:24.600
ambitious plan to name and build these projects of national importance.
01:08:30.140
And I wonder, Chris, before we get into that, can you, I hope you know,
01:08:34.600
because I don't have the details, but what is involved?
01:08:37.260
What is the, if something is named a project of national importance,
01:08:40.600
what does it mean in terms of how quickly these things get built or why this project would be
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treated differently than others that aren't on the list?
01:08:48.920
Well, from my understanding, Ben, it goes back to Bill C-5 in the legislative session at Parliament
01:08:54.040
right after Mark Carney was elected, that very short session where they passed Bill C-5.
01:08:59.780
And the point of that, similar to what the provincial government did here in Ontario,
01:09:03.600
was speed up the ability for approvals for these projects.
01:09:06.720
So the ones named by the prime minister for these special projects, as I guess we'll call them,
01:09:13.260
are certainly exempt and are going to face a lot less scrutiny from a regulatory and approval
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perspective than they typically otherwise would have been.
01:09:19.940
So, I mean, you know, on one hand, I suppose it's a good thing.
01:09:23.660
You know, getting projects done faster is something this country desperately needs.
01:09:27.580
I think on the other hand, I'm quite disappointed to see just how small this list was.
01:09:33.000
I think we've been on air talking about this before that, you know, I'm not sure the point
01:09:36.540
of putting out and, you know, really telegraphing that they were going to put out this major
01:09:40.200
projects list because I think it set them up for failure.
01:09:43.080
I think it set them up to make it seem like they were really going to put something really
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big in the window.
01:09:48.400
And I mean, if Darlington's, you know, SMRs are part of the big projects, I mean, that's
01:09:52.480
a big deal here in Ontario, but that's something the provincial government's been working on
01:09:55.540
for several years now.
01:09:56.860
So, it just really didn't feel to me like it hit the mark in terms of this transformative
01:10:02.100
economic infrastructure projects that we thought of.
01:10:05.240
You know, I'm thinking high-speed rail from Windsor to Quebec.
01:10:07.920
I'm thinking, you know, pipelines from the East Coast to the West Coast.
01:10:10.920
And Chris, to be fair, those things may be in the offing.
01:10:16.240
We were told this is the first tranche.
01:10:18.380
And Warren, look, when I saw this list, I was like, well, these are big projects.
01:10:21.880
These are going to employ a lot of people.
01:10:23.140
This is going to spur a lot of economic activity.
01:10:24.800
That's great.
01:10:25.320
But the fact that this is happening, as the prime minister said, in tranches, and this
01:10:31.680
is honestly my only criticism of this process, is it doesn't square with the narrative of
01:10:38.740
the lightning speed with which we were going to accomplish things.
01:10:42.280
We're going to build faster than we ever have since the Second World War.
01:10:45.280
That's really my only criticism.
01:10:47.080
I was talking to Jason Kenney yesterday about the fact that there's no pipeline dot, dot,
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dot yet.
01:10:51.800
And even he was like, you know, it's that's OK.
01:10:54.380
It could be coming.
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We'll have to see.
01:10:56.520
But what do you think of this process and the results thus far?
01:11:01.740
Well, I kind of rolled my eyes when I saw the list.
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I was meaner than you.
01:11:05.780
It was like to me, it was like the deja vu list.
01:11:08.640
It's like, OK, high speed rail.
01:11:10.200
Heard that before.
01:11:11.800
More LNG.
01:11:12.760
Heard that before.
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Darlington.
01:11:15.020
Heard that before.
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Pipelines.
01:11:16.640
Heard that.
01:11:16.980
You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
01:11:17.740
So it's like, don't tell me what you're going to do.
01:11:21.040
Do it.
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But exactly.
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Exactly.
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I thought at this point, that's that's what we would be seeing.
01:11:24.620
We would see more action, not more talk.
01:11:27.560
But, you know, like knock me over with a feather.
01:11:29.880
When I see Danielle Smith saying she's happy with something Ottawa did, it was like, holy
01:11:34.240
crap, I'm going to buy a 649 ticket because I've never heard this before.
01:11:37.660
So, you know, maybe maybe it's for real.
01:11:42.120
Maybe she knows something I don't.
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But, you know, we've like how many times been have we seen high speed rail from a government?
01:11:50.860
Yeah.
01:11:51.160
Like I know.
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Yeah.
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A million.
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Yeah.
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Two million.
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Like so I'm from Missouri.
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Show me.
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But I've got to wonder whether look that the House is not sitting yet.
01:12:00.040
The new parliament has not started, which means, you know, offering up the pipeline as a major
01:12:07.260
project right now until there's a repealing of certain previous Trudeau era legislations
01:12:12.740
is sort of a nonstarter.
01:12:14.860
So maybe they're waiting to make some big flourish, dramatic rescinding of, you know, the no new
01:12:20.860
tankers law and, you know, the emissions cap before making that announcement.
01:12:25.260
I mean, they they are they are good at theatrics.
01:12:27.340
They started very strong with the with the stroke of the pen elimination of the consumer
01:12:32.420
facing carbon tax.
01:12:33.440
That could be it, Chris.
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Yeah, it certainly could be, Ben.
01:12:37.740
I mean, you're spot on that nobody does politics in this country better than certainly Trudeau
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liberals did for for the last 10 years.
01:12:45.160
So maybe this is the old bait and switch.
01:12:47.360
Just get us all commentating on how they haven't done enough.
01:12:50.300
To Warren's point, maybe something was promised to Danielle Smith.
01:12:53.160
And there's a reason she's all happy and and ready to work with the prime minister,
01:12:57.140
because, you know, a couple of months ago she was ready to leave the lead the succession
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movement out of the country.
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So I think there's certainly a chance here that that's exactly what's happening.
01:13:05.740
I just think it's a bizarre tactic for me when it feels like there's so much pressure on
01:13:11.480
the federal government to to really deliver some sort of national leadership against the
01:13:18.300
administration south of the border that in the absence of that, I feel like I'm left wanting
01:13:22.960
and maybe maybe that's just premature.
01:13:24.680
Maybe that's going to come in the fall legislative session.
01:13:27.120
Maybe, like you said, it's going to require, you know, the repealing of a couple of pieces
01:13:30.660
of legislation before they come out with that kind of an announcement.
01:13:33.260
But right now it feels like it's coming up short.
01:13:35.800
All right, Chris.
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Yeah, thank you very much for that.
01:13:37.920
Warren, don't go anywhere.
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When we come back, conservatives are going to introduce bail reform at the top of the next
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parliamentary session.
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We'll talk about that next.
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This is the Ben Mulroney Show.
01:13:53.120
I'm very pleased to have as my co-pilots for the next segment, Chris Chapin and Warren Kinsella.
01:13:57.520
Guys, thanks so much for sticking around.
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I think we're all waiting with bated breath for this new session of parliament to start
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what, 11 a.m. or 10 a.m. on September 15th.
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A lot of changes.
01:14:08.000
We've got a new prime minister, a new government, and a leader of the opposition representing
01:14:13.320
a new riding.
01:14:15.920
And Pierre Polyev has promised that the conservatives are going to introduce a bill on bail reform.
01:14:22.280
And I wonder, Chris, what you think of this is, is it about the messaging, how they put
01:14:29.800
this forward?
01:14:30.580
Because this should be something, this should be a policy that the liberals want to take from
01:14:37.000
the conservatives.
01:14:38.800
Yeah, I think, Ben, it's, I think it's a smart tack for Pierre and the conservatives.
01:14:43.280
I think the last election showed that right now it's very hard to beat the liberals on
01:14:49.280
economic terms.
01:14:50.500
I think it's very hard to, to out Trump and out tariff talk, the prime minister.
01:14:56.900
And so pivoting to something that's always been a bread and butter issue for the conservative
01:15:00.140
party of Canada is quite smart.
01:15:02.600
And I think there's also a vulnerability there for, for the prime minister, because, you know,
01:15:07.840
we've seen a raft of crime over the summer through the spring, you know, it certainly
01:15:11.460
seems like it's not going to slow down heading into the fall.
01:15:13.540
Um, and Mark Carney was quite vocal and, and bizarrely went out of his way, you know, in
01:15:19.420
the spring to talk about his desire to bring forward stricter bail reform in the fall, even
01:15:24.760
though they could have done it in the last legislative sitting.
01:15:26.560
They chose to, you know, let this sit over the summer.
01:15:30.120
The issue has not gone away by any means.
01:15:31.880
I think the public appetite to see change on bail reform has skyrocketed.
01:15:36.600
And so I think it's a unique opportunity for the conservatives.
01:15:39.600
I think it's going to be very interesting to see, to your point, what do the liberals,
01:15:43.560
what does prime minister Carney do to try to steal this issue back from the conservatives?
01:15:48.000
Because I think if they spend the fall talking about bail reform and that the liberals and the
01:15:52.020
federal government aren't going far enough and that the conservatives want them to go further.
01:15:54.820
Uh, I, I think it's, it opens up a real opportunity for Pierre to kind of pivot back and get himself
01:15:59.480
back up in the polls.
01:16:00.300
Well, and, and Warren, I think, but so much of it, in my opinion, is how this is presented
01:16:05.560
by the conservative leader.
01:16:07.500
And what I mean by that is, you know, there are a lot of people who may not have voted for,
01:16:11.980
um, for the liberals in the last election, but now that they're in charge, there is so much
01:16:16.060
at stake that we absolutely need them to succeed.
01:16:19.440
And so if, if, um, if, if Pierre comes out and, and, and says,
01:16:24.820
please steal this from us, you're so weak on crime.
01:16:28.000
We want you to steal this.
01:16:29.480
That's not a really attractive value prop.
01:16:31.800
But if they say this is important to Canadians, we've been talking to them and we know that
01:16:36.300
this is important to you.
01:16:37.700
We know that this matters to you.
01:16:39.200
So please, we want to work in, in, in, in collaboration with you to get this done.
01:16:44.640
That's a different way to message it.
01:16:46.540
And it, it allows the conservatives to come off as magnanimous and being part of the solution
01:16:51.820
at a time where if you're voting, if you're, if you're challenging the government, it can
01:16:56.720
be made to be said about you that you are betting against Canada.
01:17:02.100
Think, uh, yeah, that's one way to come at it.
01:17:05.260
I'd come at it differently.
01:17:06.460
If I was Polly Ev's guys, the thing to understand about the criminal justice and
01:17:10.980
justice reform, bill reform is all levels of government play in it.
01:17:17.120
It's not just the federal government.
01:17:18.820
So the federal government's responsibility is the, basically the writing and the amendment
01:17:23.480
of the criminal code and the bail rules that are within there.
01:17:27.160
The provinces fund the administration of justice, you know, the prosecutors and the
01:17:32.400
judges who apply those rules and then the municipalities pay for the police forces.
01:17:37.920
So all of them are in the mix.
01:17:39.760
What I would be doing if I was Polly Ev is focusing all my attention on Carney.
01:17:44.580
Cause we've seen, God knows Carney is, is all for stealing Polly Ev's ideas.
01:17:49.100
He's done it on carbon tax and capital gains and defense spending.
01:17:53.100
You name it.
01:17:53.420
He's going to steal it here.
01:17:54.540
If I was Polly Ev looking for some limelight and God knows he needs it, uh, because his numbers
01:18:01.380
aren't very good, as I would say, here's what the feds can do, but I'm going to use my, my
01:18:06.760
sway with provincial premiers who he needs to develop better relations with anyway, the
01:18:12.140
conservative, uh, to say, spend more.
01:18:14.540
Yeah.
01:18:14.760
Cause if you're a judge, the big problem they've got just very quickly is, you know, a lot of
01:18:20.460
the reason why these bad guys are getting back on the street is we got nowhere to put
01:18:24.220
them.
01:18:24.580
Yeah.
01:18:24.700
We're not properly funding justice.
01:18:26.780
Like we need an ability to be able to jail people if we're serious about jailing them
01:18:31.780
for serious crimes.
01:18:33.260
And that's not happening because the provinces aren't properly funding justice.
01:18:37.920
So that's what I would do if I were Polly Ev.
01:18:40.500
Uh, Chris, if you had the ear of the leader of the opposition and he was asking you, what
01:18:46.100
do I need to do in this, in, in these first few days in the house of commons where I was
01:18:51.480
really known as an effective, um, uh, uh, you know, I've manhandled Trudeau pretty much
01:18:57.520
anytime I spoke to him.
01:18:59.240
Uh, that's not, that's not what he needs to do now.
01:19:02.240
What would you tell him about how to reintroduce himself all while maintaining authenticity
01:19:07.180
about who he is?
01:19:09.160
Yeah, it's a, it's a very good question, Ben.
01:19:11.560
I had a couple of thoughts.
01:19:12.500
One, you can't reinvent yourself.
01:19:14.400
You, you, you know, Pierre Polly has been in the public eye for over two decades.
01:19:18.120
Pierre is who he is.
01:19:19.100
I, my advice would be, you know, taking a, a sports analogy is if you're a pitcher, you're
01:19:24.620
facing a different batter now, you know, uh, Mark Carney is not Justin Trudeau.
01:19:28.960
As much as you want to compare their policies, they are complete opposite politicians.
01:19:33.640
And so you've got to recognize that not only are you up against somebody else and somebody
01:19:38.340
different, uh, the public views this guy far, far differently than they view Justin Trudeau.
01:19:43.200
Justin Trudeau was so disliked.
01:19:45.580
And there were so many questions about his qualifications to be prime minister amongst
01:19:49.280
a huge portion of the electorate.
01:19:50.840
Those, those questions don't exist about Mark Carney, for example.
01:19:54.020
And so you're the way in which you approach him in the, in the house of commons, the way
01:19:58.660
in which you talk about him in the media needs to change because you can't poke fun of him
01:20:04.060
the same way you could about Justin Trudeau.
01:20:05.980
It's you're, you're attacking somebody differently.
01:20:07.980
And so I think that is the main takeaway is don't try to change who you are.
01:20:11.320
You are, you have been successful because of your natural born political instincts and
01:20:16.040
your ability to communicate, but you've got to recognize you're going up against a different
01:20:19.380
opponent now.
01:20:20.240
Warren, we're in an interesting time where I don't think there's anybody who wants to
01:20:23.920
go back to the polls anytime soon.
01:20:25.820
The liberals do not have a complete control over this parliament.
01:20:29.880
They don't have a majority.
01:20:31.220
I don't believe the NDP are ready to have an election.
01:20:34.380
I don't think the Tories want to have an election.
01:20:36.960
So if you're the leader of the opposition, are you playing a long game here?
01:20:40.180
Are you ceding the ground with anticipation that you've got road ahead of you or are
01:20:45.600
you, or do you have to be prepared that there could be an election at any day?
01:20:50.320
Well, I agree with Chris, like, you know, the fundamentals of Polyev are set, but like
01:20:56.200
it's in Polyev's interest to cool it.
01:20:59.000
And like, for sure, you know, I've heard a million times that he's great in question
01:21:03.180
period.
01:21:03.600
He's great in committee.
01:21:05.100
Like who cares?
01:21:06.420
So was Thomas Mulcair.
01:21:07.840
And where is he now?
01:21:09.240
He's a pundit like the rest of us.
01:21:11.100
So like, he's like being great.
01:21:12.960
Hey, don't knock him, man.
01:21:13.880
This is fun.
01:21:14.460
Fuck, I'm walking around the door.
01:21:16.200
I am walking anymore.
01:21:17.760
I am going to empty your balloon.
01:21:20.660
No way where we've never been.
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But on the highway, I should go in.
01:21:23.920
My eye on my face has six words.
01:21:26.880
Fuck you.
01:21:27.640
I'm going out door.
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Fuck you.
01:21:30.600
I'm going out door.
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You're seeing the bad for two straight days.
01:21:34.040
Don't pick up here, go away.
01:21:35.700
See the ground of pure of space mirrors.
01:21:38.580
We are going to party down.
01:21:40.120
We can put in these losers.
01:21:41.060
I get down.
01:21:41.740
Do it again next day.
01:21:42.880
So where else?
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Fuck you.
01:21:45.720
I'm going out door.
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Fuck you.
01:21:48.760
I'm going out door.
01:21:50.720
Fuck you.
01:21:51.740
I'm going out door.
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Fuck you.
01:21:54.740
I'm going out door.
01:21:56.660
God, I'll be alive.
01:21:59.780
Do this all the time.
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We will never.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Fuck you.
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I'm going out door.
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I'm going out door.
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Fuck you.
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I'm going out door.
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Fuck you.
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I'm going out door.
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Fuck you.
01:22:32.440
I'm going out door.
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