kinsellacast - November 09, 2025


KINSELLACAST 387: Everything is fucked up - with Lilley, Mulroney, Pierson and more - plus mystery tunes!


Episode Stats

Length

58 minutes

Words per Minute

155.3392

Word Count

9,153

Sentence Count

138

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It's the KinsellaCast, starring Warren Kinsella.
00:00:19.800 Hey, it's Warren. Welcome to KinsellaCast. I'm in Toronto, the center of the universe.
00:00:25.660 And it's snowing. It's snowing.
00:00:30.000 Yeah, I know I live in Canada. Yeah, I know I should be used to this.
00:00:33.160 And I actually did get my snow tires on this week, so that was fortuitous.
00:00:36.940 But I have to drive back to Prince Edward County, not for some vaunted event or the arrival of some celebrity.
00:00:44.400 No, I have to wash dishes.
00:00:46.140 E has got, as she does, she's got a charity event that she's doing.
00:00:51.980 And people love her charity events and love her.
00:00:56.240 And so I'm going up there to wash dishes.
00:00:59.940 I promised her I would do that.
00:01:01.720 So thank goodiness that I've got snow tires.
00:01:06.280 And if I don't make it, well, it's been a slice.
00:01:08.920 Hope you all enjoy the podcast.
00:01:10.660 I encourage you to check out Sarah Silverman's Got a Thing About Podcasts on Instagram and other places.
00:01:18.540 Very funny.
00:01:19.720 I think she's very funny.
00:01:22.680 Lots of great music for you this week, but I haven't decided what it's going to be.
00:01:26.220 It's going to be great because I picked it.
00:01:30.200 I'm just not sure what it is.
00:01:31.460 So Martin Dixon and the other KinsellaCast fans who listen mainly for the music, you're going to have to figure it out and tell the rest of us what I played.
00:01:40.320 But we do have the regulars.
00:01:42.560 We've got Brian Lilley.
00:01:43.980 We've got Ben Moroney.
00:01:46.000 We've got Chris Chapin.
00:01:47.700 Alex Pearson.
00:01:49.520 So we've got some good folks here.
00:01:51.340 Good discussion.
00:01:52.040 And I'm still on the lookout for a female progressive who is not a crazy person or awful.
00:02:02.220 That narrows the field considerably to join us on the podcast because I've got too many male conservative voices.
00:02:10.760 They're all great guys, but I want to get some balance.
00:02:13.320 So think about that.
00:02:14.420 So much for the theory that Jews control democracy and elections, right?
00:02:23.220 The neo-Nazis I used to interview, and I interviewed many over the years.
00:02:27.540 They used to go on and on and on about what they called the Zionist Occupation Government or Zog.
00:02:34.500 And they like to call New York Jew-York.
00:02:37.840 That's what they called it.
00:02:39.540 Well, one thing is for sure.
00:02:41.320 There ain't no Zog in the Big Apple no more.
00:02:44.880 Far-right losers.
00:02:47.480 And no one should attempt to minimize the results of the elections that took place in the United States this week.
00:02:54.240 November 4th, in particular, was seismic.
00:02:57.920 Like tectonic political plates shifted.
00:03:01.080 It was big.
00:03:01.820 New York City, the most Jewish place on Earth outside of Israel, elected Zoran Mamdami,
00:03:09.800 a guy who is pro-BDS, who wants to globalize the Intifada, and accuses Jews of mass murder.
00:03:19.120 And that California proposition of Gavin Newsom to redistrict its electoral map to defeat Republicans,
00:03:25.360 that was really big too.
00:03:26.920 But I'll talk about that another day.
00:03:30.460 Why did Mandami win?
00:03:32.400 The result had been inevitable, in my opinion, since he secured the Democratic Party nomination in June.
00:03:40.920 Why?
00:03:41.380 Well, because a fence post painted blue could get elected mayor of New York City if the fence post is running as a Democrat.
00:03:51.080 That's why.
00:03:51.640 It's like getting a conservative nomination in rural Alberta.
00:03:54.980 All you need to do is maintain a pulse, and you're heading to Ottawa.
00:04:00.040 And actually, you might even head to Ottawa if you don't have a pulse.
00:04:03.900 So, Mamdami won because of that, and because Andrew Cuomo, who I used to admire, was a fatally flawed candidate.
00:04:12.160 He was handsy and creepy and lazy.
00:04:14.720 And that's psychopath Curtis Slilwa, who we'll never hear from again, was a lunatic, but he stole votes from Cuomo,
00:04:23.140 which then split the anti-Mandani coalition.
00:04:28.140 And then Trump has been governing like a far-right autocrat, like a fascist, basically,
00:04:34.040 which, as history always shows us, prompted a predictable far-left autocratic response.
00:04:40.640 Like, politics is a pendulum.
00:04:42.620 So, in New York City, on Tuesday night, the pendulum swung to the opposite extreme.
00:04:48.620 And on that last point, Republicans got massacred, folks, in America on Tuesday, across the board, full stop.
00:04:57.260 Like, even in Georgia, like it was the Alamo for the GOP, but worse.
00:05:02.840 They lost everywhere.
00:05:03.760 And again, with emphasis, a pro-BDS, Israel-hating nobody, actually got elected in America's most consequential city,
00:05:13.920 simply because he'd secured a Democratic Party nomination, and because Trump is pissing off too many voters too fast.
00:05:21.020 If the Cheeto Benito keeps doing the kind of stuff he's been doing, he and his party are DOA in the midterms.
00:05:30.600 They are toast.
00:05:32.040 But that's not the only reason the Israel-hating nobody became a somebody and mayor of one of the biggest cities on Earth.
00:05:39.960 The big reason is this.
00:05:42.560 Organization, organization, organization.
00:05:45.540 In politics, organization matters more than money and speeches and social media and law and science.
00:05:51.800 In New York City, Mondani's cabal simply out-organized everybody.
00:05:57.840 They showed, in the biggest media market on Earth, that anti-Semites have gotten their shit together.
00:06:04.700 No one should underestimate them anymore.
00:06:07.100 For Mondani to win, he needed a well-funded, well-organized campaign that legitimized his extremist, far-left resume.
00:06:15.980 And his team out-organized everybody.
00:06:19.140 Like, this anti-Israel, anti-Semitic campaign has been very successful at motivating and mobilizing Gen Z millennial female voters.
00:06:27.820 And they've also captured the affections of youthful voters across Western democracy,
00:06:32.260 with the false claim that Israel is a white supremacist, fascist, apartheid state.
00:06:38.340 And Mondani was the main beneficiary of all of that this week.
00:06:43.260 Like, trust me, as you guys know, I've got a book coming out in February about all of this.
00:06:48.240 It's called The Hidden Hand.
00:06:49.400 And for two years, I've been watching and researching and interviewing about the global propaganda campaign against Israel and the West.
00:06:58.520 They are winning this information war big time.
00:07:03.540 And Mondani is the proof.
00:07:05.460 How have they done it?
00:07:06.780 Well, my book goes into a bit more detail.
00:07:08.940 There's like 90,000 words of detail.
00:07:10.640 But here are the main reasons.
00:07:11.960 They've captured, number one, the youth folk by depicting Israel as this generation's apartheid South Africa.
00:07:19.040 Number two, they got lots of money from Qatar and this constellation of Israel-hating NGOs and nonprofits and charities.
00:07:28.320 They have successfully, number three, infiltrated organizations that young people trust,
00:07:34.700 like public service unions, academia, community groups.
00:07:38.800 They absolutely dominate in social media and have an impressive reach in traditional media, too.
00:07:46.760 But is Mondani the future of democracy, as some idiots are writing?
00:07:50.780 Not at this point.
00:07:52.560 But if our side keeps underestimating the other side and keeps sitting on our asses thinking we can't lose, he will be.
00:08:08.800 Hey, Jerry Pinker.
00:08:23.140 Who's your favorite daughter?
00:08:28.520 Can I ask you for a feeling?
00:08:32.440 Only if it's not a bother.
00:08:34.800 I feel the hand that feeds me.
00:08:56.760 It tastes like hypocrite.
00:09:00.980 A wolf hides in the sheets growing.
00:09:05.020 And it feels like bitter death.
00:09:08.780 Hey, Jerry Pinker.
00:09:11.420 I think there's something in the water.
00:09:15.860 When you're wallowing the leader.
00:09:19.680 Sometimes it's because of the deceiver.
00:09:22.060 I feel the hand that feeds me.
00:09:30.320 It tastes like hypocrite.
00:09:34.320 A wolf hides in the sheets growing.
00:09:39.320 I feel the hand that feeds me.
00:09:43.320 It tastes like hypocrite.
00:09:46.320 A wolf hides in the sheets growing.
00:09:51.320 And it feels like bitter death.
00:09:55.280 In theireals.
00:09:56.420 I feel the hand that feeds me.
00:09:57.280 I feel the hand that feeds me.
00:09:58.060 I feel the hand that feeds me.
00:09:59.860 I feel the hand that feeds me.
00:10:01.420 I feel the hand that эw.
00:10:01.480 I feel the hand that feeds me.
00:10:02.660 To episodes me.
00:10:03.180 Obviously you're the hand that threads of others.
00:10:04.980 I got exposed to the of Mudk pass rusher.
00:10:05.920 I know.
00:10:07.240 And it feels likeathers.
00:10:08.040 All right.
00:10:09.040 I do life.
00:10:10.280 I feel that.
00:10:11.340 I'll do life.
00:10:12.420 Sometimes If you subscribe to leave a healthy day.
00:10:13.860 I'm at the end of you.
00:10:15.760 I'm at the end of you.
00:10:17.760 I'm at the end of you.
00:10:18.840 Gracias for disaster.
00:10:20.080 II
00:10:20.680 I refuse to transition you.
00:10:21.980 I just use concrete wordback.
00:10:22.620 and we're back and we're back with brian lilly and brian
00:10:51.740 i think there was a federal budget this week did you see that i i cannot recall um there may have been
00:10:59.900 there was talk of one do you know anything about the but i mean i could sit here and go off on all
00:11:06.240 the horrible numbers um but it all got lost really and and the liberals have kind of been saved because
00:11:14.320 you know they they brought out the first budget and for anyone that's talking about it what are
00:11:20.080 they talking about huge deficit out of control spending continues um there's no good messaging
00:11:28.140 and it's weird you know the liberals back under some guy named chretchen perfected the art of
00:11:35.640 dripping out all the major budget measures having a narrative going into the budget and then having
00:11:41.760 a few things left over to sell when the budget was released and and having a whole marketing campaign
00:11:48.640 around it stephen harper copied that trudeau copied that it works it's not a partisan thing it it's
00:11:56.640 just good uh stagecraft and statecraft and these guys what's the budget about apparently floor crossers
00:12:04.460 and resignations um well let's let's talk about that because i agree with you um the really didn't
00:12:12.080 seem to be a central narrative and that's a problem because they sold it they oversold it called it
00:12:18.080 generational and and historic asked about that i gotta give a shout out to bill curry from the global mail
00:12:24.080 who at the morning after news conference said did you overhype this and carny's response was
00:12:30.080 you know just a dismissive burst out of air from his lips he oversold it you know oh yeah we're going
00:12:40.080 to rein in spending because that eight percent justin trudeau's got it's unsustainable so i'll bring in
00:12:45.280 7.2 spending growth but does he care so you know getting back to your first point this floor crossing
00:12:54.080 stuff and you've got a compendious voluminous piece uh online that i encourage everybody to
00:13:02.400 seek out and subscribe um do they care i mean the budget they probably knew it didn't have a central
00:13:09.360 narrative either but do they give a shit because they just captured every headline with this floor
00:13:15.040 crossing stuff yeah so it's up on my sub stack and it is ridiculously long uh it's a couple thousand
00:13:23.680 words but what i tried to do um and you can find it at brianlily.com or on my socials is just answer
00:13:30.320 everybody's questions and take a step back because there's some competing narratives out there on why
00:13:36.880 things happened or did certain things happen and i try and give you okay here's what i know
00:13:41.920 and of course with all of these palace and street things uh time will tell and maybe we find out
00:13:48.320 something different at the end um but uh kudos to politico middle of the budget lockup when most
00:13:58.000 reporters are focused you know okay i've got two hours left let me look at that chart one more time
00:14:04.160 to make sure the numbers are right they dropped the bombshell that chris d'antremont is uh thinking
00:14:11.040 of crossing the floor and it shocked everyone including apparently as i put in the piece chris d'antremont
00:14:16.960 who didn't think that they were going to report on it when they did and so um even though my
00:14:24.080 understanding is they were up front with them and he thought it was going to be held off until later
00:14:29.040 so uh that caused some tense meetings with uh the conservative leadership uh whip chris workington
00:14:36.000 uh house leader edmund sheer uh and uh and then d'antremont leaving the conservative caucus earlier
00:14:43.280 than planned and joining the liberal caucus earlier than planned but yeah this was was months in the
00:14:49.760 making and all i will caution on this and you can read all the detail is don't buy into this narrative
00:14:57.920 that he left because well he's been kind of a pure red tory that couldn't possibly uh coexist with
00:15:06.400 pierre polyev uh because um uh he ran under andrew sheer who's joined at the hip with pierre polyev just
00:15:14.160 as much of a fiscal hawk and on top of that a silicon um that's when d'antremont first decided to run
00:15:20.800 there's a lot of uh personal interest involved in the decision and multiple things can be true at once
00:15:29.120 but i think that when he didn't get the job of the speaker which comes with a gorgeous home
00:15:33.680 a car and driver an apartment in the city uh all of these things when he didn't get that that soured
00:15:40.240 his relationship with the the leadership of the conservative party then what's then what's the
00:15:45.840 reason for this matt jennery guy from from edmonton tell us about him that we don't know um and there's
00:15:53.920 gonna be lots of rumors and you know the usual uh presumptions of why men in politics are suddenly
00:16:02.000 leaving to spend more time with their family and that's going to be unfair to him but that's six
00:16:07.440 months in five months in like you know like he suddenly decides it it looks suspicious don't it so
00:16:14.640 here's what i can confirm for sure um he's married to a a woman who is a colorectal surgeon
00:16:22.080 um dr elizabeth clement they've got three young kids um she had been in edmonton then she was hired
00:16:30.160 for a position at saint paul's hospital in vancouver that that was stressful on them she tried to move
00:16:37.840 to a hospital in montreal so that it'd be closer ottawa to montreal they could see each other more
00:16:43.360 um it just didn't pan out with the hospital so she had taken a position in victoria and general was
00:16:52.480 going to resign in the new year and move on this you know these changes in her career have happened
00:17:01.440 since the election and uh as the family tries to make it work and so in the new year he was going
00:17:09.360 to be resigning uh he got caught up in the um uh rumor mill about floor crossings and decided to move
00:17:18.080 it up now here here's what's interesting is tonda mccarles who's a solid reporter at the toronto star
00:17:24.080 look look at me giving out all the mainstream media reporters some credit today but you do you do you're
00:17:29.840 you're fair to people there are good ones up there and tonda is a pro um so she's got multiple sources
00:17:39.840 telling her that genera did meet with uh carney on monday generu has denied this to conservative
00:17:48.480 leadership including to as he called him in his statement to his friend uh close friend chris uh
00:17:55.280 chris workington um what i'm told is those two are tight their families are tight their wives are
00:18:01.760 friends um so somebody's lying now pmo has not told tonda mccharles that they met with him it's
00:18:12.800 anonymous liberal sources so um is it uh generu lying to the party leadership are they are their sources
00:18:22.800 lying to mccharles or exaggerating both are possible you know you always come back to the old uh legal
00:18:30.480 saying uh kibono and well both could both could benefit i mean general might be embarrassed he might
00:18:38.640 be trying to save face uh but the liberals have really leaned in on trying to destabilize a very
00:18:45.200 trumpian move uh trying to destabilize the conservatives with all this talk floor crossing
00:18:50.480 and it's working it's working like the end of carney's canadian club speech he's making a pitch to
00:18:56.560 people to call their local mp if they're not liberal and get you know make them consider crossing wow and
00:19:04.000 and when asked about um the day after when on wednesday morning when we just knew about don
00:19:10.160 from all and reporters are asking him are there others he was leaning into this heavily and loving it
00:19:17.680 and you know he he's living rent free in their minds and you know to go back to what we started talking
00:19:24.480 about we're talking about this instead of a really shitty budget like you know you you can love the
00:19:30.560 spending hate the spending there's no theme there's no uh it is not what he claimed even susan delacorte
00:19:37.600 the toronto star said this is not what he promised uh so none of us talked about that we're talking about
00:19:45.200 you know who else in the uh conservative caucus is is going to bowl but well let's then let's talk
00:19:52.960 about it because you know i might point out liberals have been pushing names like michael
00:19:59.120 chom that are never going to join so then let's talk about something related but something else
00:20:06.560 which is what is the consequence of all of this what is the impact of all of this
00:20:11.840 on pierre polyev leader of the conservative party of canada who's facing a leadership review in the new
00:20:18.480 year this could not possibly be helpful to him in that review could it no it's uh this is bad for
00:20:26.080 him it's at the end of the world no uh is can he manage it well if he had another week in ottawa
00:20:35.200 i think he'd be in more trouble because you know what the feeding frenzy is like with the gallery yes um
00:20:41.680 and this is a break week all the mps go back to their writings for remembering state ceremonies
00:20:47.680 and the like and that takes down the temperature uh for those that don't know um the rumor mill
00:20:54.000 once it gets going on the hill gets crazy and there's a lot of things that are true but
00:20:58.960 more that aren't true that gets spread around and and it becomes a feeding frenzy you have to
00:21:04.320 describe the parliamentary press gallery is high school with salaries it's like the high school cafeteria
00:21:09.360 but everyone gets paid well and so the gossiping is horrible and and if you'd face another week of
00:21:17.440 that he'd be in in real trouble uh break week gives him a chance to reset how he responds to this
00:21:26.400 in the next few weeks whether things continue if it continues he's in real trouble in january if not he can
00:21:34.640 survive january and i've long thought that if he's going to uh be in trouble it won't be the leadership
00:21:42.880 review in january it'll be caucus or something else after the fact but may i remind you i have to remind
00:21:48.880 you that both warren and brian both thought that bonnie crombie would be okay and it turned out she wasn't
00:21:56.960 we both got our our numbers wrong like is pierre looking at scott moe 80 approval like moe got this
00:22:04.720 week in saskatchewan oh no he was never going to get 80 i don't think um but will he get over 70 uh
00:22:15.760 i don't know anymore i thought so well he can he can point to um you know some good news like
00:22:23.920 abacus did a poll and said okay if we uh here's how clear polyeth would do against mark carney and
00:22:30.240 the liberals in an election now let's test all these other names doug ford and melissa lanceman
00:22:36.240 and michelle rumble garner uh caroline mulroney mark mulroney uh the brother who's in the background
00:22:43.040 in business who did a lot of fundraising for polyeth all these names are tested none of them do as well
00:22:48.640 he can point to things like that to try and keep people outside but um yeah this is you know one
00:22:55.360 of those events that politicians fear and that can change things so um he he's how he responds will
00:23:05.120 determine the outcome in january but i don't think you can say him winning it is a foregone conclusion he
00:23:12.480 still has a very good shot at it uh but he's going to have to hustle now just this point about uh
00:23:20.640 frustrated conservatives um that's real that's absolutely real so cbc's reporting 12 uh the stars
00:23:29.040 reporting 10 to 15 so their numbers are similar and you know i've said on here and i've written about
00:23:34.880 frustrations of conservative insiders and that has included mps for several months now but the narrative
00:23:42.080 that no one should buy into is that it's well this is the red tories and it's a split with the old
00:23:48.480 progressive conservatives there are no old progressive conservatives anymore this is one
00:23:53.360 party there are factions within the party just like everywhere else but this is not an old
00:23:58.400 let's split between the reformers and the pcs the frustration is happening in all factions of the
00:24:04.880 party and it comes back to he didn't win yeah so that that's what it is you're going to find some
00:24:11.360 people that are you know you should have taken a harder line you should have taken a lighter line
00:24:17.040 he should just be nicer but it all comes back to he didn't win and they all wanted uh better positions
00:24:25.680 on the front bench they wanted cabinet posts they wanted uh the perks of being in government those sorts
00:24:31.200 of things that's why uh there is frustration and some people just feel like the he hasn't learned the
00:24:38.960 lessons but it's not an ideological one it goes throughout all the different factions final
00:24:46.320 question and it it relates to i gave you a bit of a heads up the washington post has got a
00:24:53.280 comprehensive report on donald trump falling asleep in meetings including in that meeting where
00:24:58.720 some poor gentleman from a pharmaceutical company passed out and and and uh trump just stood there like
00:25:06.080 like like nothing had happened uh but he he's they're calculating how much he seems to be asleep
00:25:13.360 in meetings and so on and of course it invites comparisons to you know sleepy joe and the stuff
00:25:19.360 he's like how is it and i'm trying to relate it back to polyev how is it that that guy is able to maintain
00:25:29.120 that iron grip on his caucus on his people and guys like polyev and sheer and o'toole
00:25:37.280 large on their conservatives like what is the why are canadian conservatives and american conservatives
00:25:43.200 it was so different i haven't been able to read the uh the washington post bcx paywall i'll get to it
00:25:49.040 later um uh i'm amazed trump doesn't sleep more often apparently he doesn't sleep much and we see that
00:25:55.920 with when he posts on true social yes um very odd hours but you know he he just threatens to primary
00:26:04.000 people and they fall in line and he's got this massive movement that will show up and they'll
00:26:11.200 take you out if they don't think that you're following the boss um could polyev do that potentially
00:26:19.120 because he has the base on his side that's something that he still has whether he has
00:26:24.960 folks in ottawa and and other things happening you know that's something there he has the base on his
00:26:29.920 side in a way that o'toole and sheer never did yeah um i was speaking before all this floor crossing
00:26:35.920 stuff happened i was speaking to a few conservative mps getting a sense of what it felt like in the
00:26:42.720 caucus this is just after the rcmp trudeau arrest comments and they said like look this is it we've seen
00:26:51.200 a couple of uh you know leadership uh leaders killed off in the last little while this does not feel
00:26:56.480 the same so this is very different whether it feels the same now more importantly whether it feels the
00:27:04.240 same on november 17th when the house comes back that's the open question um and uh you know he's
00:27:12.880 going to have to find a way to uh rally the base but also caucus management well there is snow upon the
00:27:20.800 land and where you and i live in central canada in the center of the universe there is snow folks so
00:27:26.800 hopefully you got your snow tires on i'm going to be out on the roads today and um so i guess we'll
00:27:32.400 all be watching now to see who's going to be taking a walk in the snow in the coming months will it be
00:27:39.360 chloe's going for a walk in the snow in a couple of months yeah tommy and joey kind of dig it too so
00:27:45.040 well listen uh make sure you're wearing your galoshes and uh and being safe and um thank you so much
00:27:52.480 again for your insight and for giving us some of the behind the scenes on the hijinks in ottawa
00:27:57.840 thank you so yeah there's lots more in the piece go read it thanks so much
00:28:14.560 i want to lose everything down to the smile don't want to know what anything is for a while
00:28:21.840 i don't forget what i learned a childish return won't quit till every last book is burnt
00:28:28.880 dumb love
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00:28:43.840 i won't cry cause i don't understand
00:28:47.840 i don't got anything in my command i'm just gonna be what i probably am
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00:29:01.840 dumb love
00:29:11.840 don't tell me your secrets i don't wanna know
00:29:13.840 don't wanna move fast don't take it slow
00:29:15.840 don't know if it's true don't know what to do
00:29:19.840 i just wanna be an idiot for you
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00:29:39.840 i won't cry cause i don't understand
00:29:41.840 i don't got anything in my command
00:29:45.840 i'm just gonna be what i probably am
00:29:47.840 i'm just gonna be what i probably am
00:29:51.840 can't write you a poem
00:29:53.840 i don't have the words
00:29:55.840 anything i have
00:29:57.840 just plain and absurd
00:29:59.840 got the heart of the heavens
00:30:01.840 and the brain of a bird
00:30:03.840 dumb love
00:30:05.840 welcome back to the ben mulroney show and from a conversation with david chilton to a conversation with two of my favorite guests here on the ben mulroney show it's friday which means it's time for the friday edition of this weekend
00:30:35.820 politics please welcome warren kinsella and chris chapin as always guys welcome
00:30:39.820 howdy great to be here
00:30:41.820 uh warren i want to start with you because this time last week we were talking about uh an event uh that i was at where uh olivia chow was not invited because it was a celebration of allies of the jewish community and you said it was a bad idea you talk to your enemies and then she went last weekend and declared that there had been a genocide in gaza and i personally believe it's one man's opinion that you can draw a line from
00:31:04.820 draw a line from those words to the feeling of empowerment in the mob that decided to attack toronto metropolitan university students and i wonder what you make of that entire dynamic
00:31:16.820 well i agree with you there is a causal connection between leadership and reality you know that's why the three of us have been involved with politics in our lives is we believe that there's a connection between how a leader conducts him or herself and the things that they do and the money that they spend the votes that they make there's a connection between that and what happens in the real world and in the case of chow
00:31:44.820 and in the case of chow she advocated in front of the ncc cm which is the leading muslim organization in this country she advocated that jews commit mass murder
00:32:00.820 and uh two days later there was a crystal knocked type attack at tmu and crystal knock for those who are unfamiliar with it and regrettably these days i think many people are
00:32:13.700 uh just about 90 years ago this week this week uh there was a two-day program against jews that principally involved attacks on jews
00:32:24.340 uh blood spilled uh blood spilled and glass shattered so crystal knocked shattering of glass
00:32:30.900 and it's happening again like right here right in the wake of olivia chow's statements the reason why i favor
00:32:40.020 inviting people like olivia chow to jewish events is to put her feet to the fire to challenge her to not let her get
00:32:49.460 off the hook because by not inviting her she has an excuse to stay away yeah i favor sticking them right
00:32:58.500 in the limelight yeah and challenging them and saying how dare you how dare you say that and look what
00:33:06.660 happened next but instead they let her off the hook and i think that was a mistake chris chapin what sort of
00:33:12.820 conversations do you think are happening at city hall what sort of conversations are happening about this very
00:33:18.420 um this very conversation is very topic of a causal relationship between the mayor saying something
00:33:24.900 that in my opinion not my opinion it's factually incorrect uh and and and and there arise in
00:33:31.580 intention and violence um on the streets of toronto nothing ben yeah i honestly honestly i like have you seen
00:33:40.260 any any semblance of or sign that that anything's changed at city hall i mean certainly not i saw that on
00:33:47.100 november 15th in the city of toronto there's going to be a flag raising for these the flag of the state
00:33:52.040 of palestine i saw that that oh and mr sag as well that's exactly it so i mean to answer your question
00:33:58.420 nothing worse than nothing i guess you could argue like um it's the only thing i'd challenge warren i
00:34:04.960 get where he's coming from completely on on having olivia there and putting her feet to the fire but
00:34:09.980 she wasn't going to show up if you invited her anyway she's been invited to these events
00:34:13.940 she's baked in her position uh and and sadly you know you're right it's why we all got involved in
00:34:20.300 politics to some extent because we believe that leaders can and should lead us through i was
00:34:25.660 drafted times i was drafted nobody told me nobody told me that i had to leave my nice house in
00:34:33.600 montreal and i had to live in with the asbestos in 24 sussex that was not part of the bargain
00:34:39.320 anyway i interrupted you you can go back there's i think there's some people that wouldn't mind if
00:34:44.860 you know thank you maybe not to the asbestos built house hard pass you know i i think i think just
00:34:50.720 that's the reality van is there's nothing there's no discussion going on there's the exact opposite
00:34:54.160 going on at city hall and it's unfortunate um but there's you know there's a few vocal opponents
00:35:00.280 at city hall uh but the truth is within that mayor's office i think there's absolutely no discussion
00:35:05.320 about this whatsoever it's been rinse and repeat it's only been one side of the equation that we
00:35:10.220 see these attacks in the city of toronto um and and you know there's frankly what frustrates me the
00:35:15.240 most and is that there's no accountability there never seems to be any sort of accountability uh from
00:35:21.280 the nccm like there's you know they're quick to the draw to criticize any any case of islamophobia
00:35:26.480 but when it comes to anti-semitic behavior and attacks like this it just seems to be radio silence
00:35:31.480 from them but what would you expect when it's radio silence from the mayor's office yeah all
00:35:36.360 right in this next question i kind of want to do something a little different i want to put you i
00:35:39.620 want you guys to do the talking to each other here because you know we've got two people who know who
00:35:44.660 understand how a caucus works you understand the dynamics of it far more than i uh and what i the
00:35:51.560 fact that we're barely even talking about the budget right now because the drama around floor
00:35:56.500 crossing and people abandoning the the conservative party um is sort of dominating headlines and on one
00:36:02.740 side you've got people saying uh there are more floor crossers to come on others on the other side
00:36:07.160 you have people saying nothing to see here i'll i'll start with you chris uh from your vantage point
00:36:13.660 um what's what's the state of play today in ottawa uh i mean it's it's about as perfect as it could
00:36:22.980 be for the prime minister um we're we're not talking about what i think was a fairly underwhelming
00:36:28.040 budget you know i i had high hopes uh when you throw out the term generational and and after
00:36:33.460 everything we've been through over the last i mean i guess it's november so at least the last 10 months
00:36:37.640 of this year since president trump took office i had high expectations perhaps they weren't in a
00:36:42.180 position to bring forward a generational budget because of the lack of uh certainty from south of the
00:36:46.740 border but the truth is if i'm mark carney i'm feeling pretty good right now that uh what they do best
00:36:51.840 what the liberal party in ottawa does best is you know a shell game and and we're talking about
00:36:56.980 chris d'entremont crossing the floor we're talking about matt generu's resignation uh we're not talking
00:37:01.840 about what i think once again should be the fair and open criticisms of what the liberal government's
00:37:05.840 done uh and and planning for this country i i feel no less certain uh about the direction our
00:37:11.700 country's headed in but i i know all the talking heads in ottawa and here here we are talking about
00:37:15.920 this today uh because it is what's interesting and and it's because you know can can the carney
00:37:20.980 liberals avoid the speculation we've talked about the last couple weeks on this show about going to
00:37:25.620 perhaps an election this fall or early next year for him to get a majority government or has he
00:37:30.380 managed to do it behind closed doors uh you know outside the caucus rooms and get a couple people
00:37:35.920 to cross the floor and get him those extra key two or three votes he desperately needed to have a
00:37:41.080 de facto majority government it looks like he's quite possibly on his way you know the chris d'entremont
00:37:46.200 from nova scotia crossing the floor gets him one seat closer matt generu you know claims to you know
00:37:52.940 that he's going to continue to vote with the conservative caucus though he's not sitting with
00:37:56.260 the conservative caucus yeah and he's going to resign his seat in the spring i mean there's a whole lot
00:37:59.900 of question marks over that resignation but yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna cut you off because i want i want
00:38:03.780 warren to come in warren when you when you hear all everything from yesterday some of its bluster some
00:38:08.600 of its smoke and mirrors some of it might be the unfiltered truth what what what does your brain tell you
00:38:15.340 what do your instincts tell you about what actually was going on over the past few days
00:38:18.400 well you know as a citizen as a voter i don't like it you know uh i know the all of us know
00:38:26.060 the main reason people vote for a particular mp is because of party affiliation that's what matters
00:38:32.340 the most that's why people work so hard to get a party nomination and so you know i think if you run
00:38:38.600 as a tory and you decide to become a liberal you should submit yourself to the people so they can
00:38:44.300 decide whether they agree with you or not and that that's the case for don't tremont that's the case
00:38:48.820 for leona alsalev who went from the the liberals to the tories at win and went from the greens to
00:38:55.280 liberals like i understand you know i've worked with caucuses i've worked for a prime minister
00:39:00.560 uh everybody's looking to make these acquisitions um because they make your life easier certainly
00:39:06.660 mark carney's life is easier this morning than it was you know 72 hours ago but it i don't think
00:39:12.660 it's right you know i think that um those people should have the guts to submit themselves to the
00:39:18.380 people and say um do you approve of what i did yeah and if they say it's okay well then that it's
00:39:24.220 okay but my suspicion is um you know in a couple of these cases they're not going to be cool with it
00:39:30.080 no i i just you know listen i i don't know what was in um don tremont's heart i don't know what was
00:39:36.920 in his mind but when he walked into that first caucus meeting in front of people that he had
00:39:41.980 gone into to war against and they were cheering him like the conquering hero it i felt so uncomfortable
00:39:49.080 watching it for him that i couldn't make sense of it for myself anyway lots more to talk about after
00:39:54.500 the break uh with a warren and chris including no pipelines ever in bc apparently uh we'll try to
00:40:00.740 make that make sense welcome back to the ben mulroney show welcome back to this week in politics with
00:40:11.780 warren and chris and before we move on to another topic let's finish up with what's the drama that's
00:40:16.720 been happening in ottawa warren uh based on everything that you've seen are do you do you believe the
00:40:23.120 rumors that there is some sort of palace coup or some some sort of push against pierre poliev going on
00:40:29.760 right now uh palace coup internally no but external events are definitely conspiring against him
00:40:37.760 like he's in some trouble he's losing caucus members at a time when he needs them to be railing against
00:40:45.340 the budget so instead of the focus on the budget which in the view of a lot of people was a bit of
00:40:50.580 a wet firecracker um you know they're talking we here we are we're talking about this the the numbers
00:40:57.060 and the intrigue and the cloak and dagger stuff going back and forth so it's not helpful to him
00:41:03.040 is it fatal to him in the review i don't know at the end of the day i think it's like the the movie
00:41:08.960 gladiator you know i picture joaquin phoenix there with his thumb up or thumb down but uh in that case
00:41:15.460 it's stephen harper stephen harper is the guy who's going to decide whether pierre poliev lives or dies
00:41:21.160 and whether the conservative party moves on and uh i guess the jury's still out he's still backing
00:41:26.960 poliev but he can't be impressed by all of the the nonsense that's been going on uh chris i see bob
00:41:34.000 bob in your head yeah listen i i think you know ultimately ben it's going to come down to what
00:41:40.780 happens in january i think i think we'd be fooling ourselves if we didn't just accept the fact that
00:41:46.100 when pierre poliev won this the leadership three years ago there were members of that party that did not
00:41:50.640 like him there were members of that caucus that did not support him and so seeing somebody cross
00:41:55.220 the floor for a mark carney led government that unquestionably has certainly leaned center right
00:42:01.280 compared to where justin trudeau was i'm not surprised he might be able to pick off one or two
00:42:05.660 ottawa is obviously buzzing that there might be two or three more that might cross the floor but
00:42:10.060 i think it's going to come down to that leadership review for pierre in january and and unless something
00:42:15.180 drastically changes from now until then you got to remember this guy sold you know more memberships in the
00:42:20.440 leadership race a couple years ago than than the party's ever sold in the history of the party he
00:42:25.120 has a iron grip on the base of the conservative party of canada and so him losing it i know i don't
00:42:30.080 think so is is there some you know turmoil inside a caucus maybe a little bit but i think you know when
00:42:34.680 it comes to the party in a palace coup it couldn't be farther from the case warren but i was in an event
00:42:39.080 i was an event where ben ben very ably uh led an event for ben abrit canada last night and i was in
00:42:46.520 the crowd and i'll tell you guys i had a whole bunch of people it was like i was the father confessor
00:42:52.000 and they come up to me and say they were tories and they just wanted me to know that they voted
00:42:56.160 for jean chariot and they think that jean chariot would have been a better pick i had a whole lot of
00:43:00.940 people saying that so and in anybody defending pierre polyev's honor quite the opposite the
00:43:06.820 people i'm hearing from the readers i'm hearing from the people getting in touch with me through
00:43:10.620 post media are saying that they're not happy with the direction of the party because you know what
00:43:15.700 chris says is true sure he sold a million memberships but that was a long time ago the
00:43:20.040 reality now is he lost his own seat and he lost the election and that's what tories that i know are
00:43:25.040 thinking about well one guy who didn't lose a whole lot of elections was your former boss
00:43:29.120 jean chretien i wonder um if if he were around if he were in office today and he had a premier on
00:43:37.940 the west coast that said uh i know that we said we're going to build projects of national importance
00:43:42.700 but uh but the west coast is closed closed for business go go go sell crazy someplace else we're
00:43:48.780 all stocked up here what would what would jean chretien do well he would sit down i can do my
00:43:53.980 imitation of him but i probably shouldn't and he would say you know mr eby it's true
00:43:59.100 under the constitution within your own province you're allowed to decide where pipelines go
00:44:05.200 that's true but because it crosses a provincial border and because you know we need it as a
00:44:11.520 country i get to decide that through something called the canada energy regulator and i think
00:44:18.580 it's good for the country and i think we should do that um chretien is a pro pipelines prime minister
00:44:25.320 he was certainly when i worked for him so yeah i think he would be saying to mr eby look um this is
00:44:32.000 not a fight that you should be picking because you're not just picking this fight with alberti
00:44:35.500 you're picking this fight with me we need it clearly we need it in light of the trump threat
00:44:40.760 in light of what's happening to our economy nationally we need pipelines we we you know we're
00:44:46.600 a resource country we shouldn't be leaving our resource in the ground and i think that's what
00:44:50.520 he would be saying to david eby
00:44:51.820 i was wrong to ever leave you alone to take for granted a moment that we can share at home
00:45:20.820 doing nothing we love to do nothing
00:45:27.820 cause nothing seems alright with you any of these nights i'll never give it give it give it away
00:45:38.500 give it give it give it give it give it away
00:45:44.580 give it give it again
00:45:45.500 give it give it give it away give it give it give it again
00:45:50.040 give it give it give it again i was wrong i was wrong i was wrong i lost you for putting up with me
00:45:59.580 Dreaming of possibilities
00:46:04.580 Of days gone by with you being here by my side
00:46:11.580 I love nothing more than just to hold you close
00:46:18.580 But to see you smile and hear you laugh I love most
00:46:25.580 I'll never give it, give it, give it away
00:46:29.580 Give it, give it, give it away again
00:46:33.580 Give it, give it, give it away
00:46:36.580 Give it, give it, give it away again
00:46:40.580 I was wrong, I was wrong
00:46:46.580 You bring out the best side of me, girl
00:46:53.580 How could I run away from you?
00:47:03.580 We'll keep running
00:47:07.580 We'll keep running, I'll go, go, go, go with you
00:47:12.580 Give it, give it, give it away again
00:47:26.580 I was wrong, I was wrong
00:47:34.580 Give it, give it, give it away again
00:47:44.580 Give it, give it, give it away again
00:47:48.580 I was wrong
00:47:50.580 What happens now?
00:47:52.580 Let us bring in Warren Kinsella
00:47:53.580 Former Special Advisor to Jean Chrétier
00:47:56.580 President of Daisy Group
00:47:57.580 And of course the author of a brand new book
00:47:59.580 Coming out very, very soon
00:48:00.580 The Hidden Hand
00:48:01.580 The Information War and the Rise of Anti-Semitic Propaganda
00:48:04.580 That comes out in February
00:48:06.580 He joins us now, good to have you Warren
00:48:08.580 Thanks for having me
00:48:09.580 Thanks for having me
00:48:10.580 All right, where do you want to start with this one?
00:48:12.580 Because like I kept thinking New York won't do this
00:48:14.580 New York can't be that crazy
00:48:16.580 New York's not, oh my God, what happened?
00:48:18.580 I mean the reaction was just like this didn't happen, right?
00:48:21.580 This just did not happen
00:48:22.580 Your reaction to his election?
00:48:25.580 He won it back in June
00:48:27.580 Back in June he became the Democratic Party nominee
00:48:31.580 And like in New York City, Alex, as you know
00:48:34.580 You can be a fence post painted blue
00:48:37.580 And win, you know, the mayoralty
00:48:40.580 And win in New York City
00:48:41.580 So that's really when he won it
00:48:43.580 The question we have to ask ourselves is how he did that
00:48:47.580 And in the book you kindly just mentioned
00:48:49.580 I talk about that
00:48:51.580 Is how the anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, pro-Palestine, pro-Hamas
00:48:57.580 Call them what you will, fringe
00:48:59.580 Have become very organized
00:49:01.580 And they've become very successful at this information war
00:49:04.580 And moving public opinion in the West
00:49:07.580 In Canada, in the United States, and in Europe
00:49:10.580 And we saw that last night dramatically in New York City
00:49:14.580 Is he persuaded, Mondami persuaded a lot of young people
00:49:19.580 To vote for him
00:49:21.580 Notwithstanding the fact that he's got these terrible, awful, you know
00:49:25.580 False views about Israel, about Jews, about the Jewish state
00:49:29.580 Yeah, and look, he's got a couple of Jewish groups that endorse him
00:49:33.580 And people say, well, look, people in the Jewish community endorse him
00:49:36.580 And it's like, well, there are always whack jobs within, right?
00:49:39.580 But that does not represent what most Jews feel
00:49:41.580 Which is why you're probably going to see a mass exodus of Jews leaving
00:49:45.580 Because they just don't feel safe
00:49:47.580 But other people too
00:49:49.580 Because the business class in New York
00:49:51.580 Is not going to put up with what he's planning to do
00:49:53.580 I mean, he captured that millennial crowd
00:49:56.580 That are so persuasive right now
00:49:59.580 And a lot of them truly believe, Warren
00:50:02.580 That you can government, you know, run stores
00:50:05.580 And make life free for all
00:50:07.580 But it's that it's being picked up so readily by these millennials
00:50:11.580 That they're buying into it
00:50:13.580 That I think it should be the greatest concern
00:50:15.580 It should be
00:50:16.580 And, you know, New York City is one of the biggest cities in the world
00:50:19.580 And it's, you know, if you liken it to a corporation
00:50:23.580 It's got a lot of moving parts
00:50:25.580 It's got this massive budget
00:50:26.580 You've got thousands of people working for it
00:50:28.580 And it's got millions of problems
00:50:30.580 And, you know, this guy was an assemblyman
00:50:33.580 He's never actually held a job
00:50:35.580 He's never worked in the real world
00:50:38.580 And I think that's going to become glaringly evident
00:50:41.580 Over the next four years
00:50:42.580 But actually, it's not going to take four years
00:50:44.580 It's going to take less time than that
00:50:46.580 Because, you know, many of the things that he's proposing
00:50:49.580 Just don't work
00:50:50.580 And we know that they don't work
00:50:52.580 Based upon our experience in history
00:50:55.580 And, you know, for example, his position in Israel
00:50:58.580 Like, how is Gaza going to get solved
00:51:00.580 From the council chambers in New York City?
00:51:03.580 I don't know, I'm trying to figure out
00:51:04.580 How Olivia Chow's going to solve it
00:51:06.580 She's out there piping up about it, right?
00:51:08.580 It's like, I don't know
00:51:10.580 Yeah, and maybe it makes them feel better about themselves
00:51:14.580 Maybe, you know, it keeps their core, you know, vote happy
00:51:18.580 I guess
00:51:19.580 But it doesn't solve anything
00:51:20.580 And all it actually does
00:51:22.580 Is make the Jewish community and their allies feel alienated
00:51:27.580 Like, New York City has got the biggest Jewish population
00:51:31.580 In the world outside of Israel
00:51:33.580 Yeah
00:51:34.580 This morning they're sitting there and saying
00:51:36.580 My neighbors, my people all around me
00:51:39.580 Don't want me here
00:51:41.580 And like, that's not what a mayor is supposed to be doing
00:51:44.580 A mayor is supposed to be bringing people together
00:51:46.580 Whether it's Olivia Chow
00:51:48.580 Who's been an unmitigated disaster
00:51:50.580 Or it's Mandami
00:51:51.580 And so, you know, the early indications are not good
00:51:54.580 His speech last night
00:51:56.580 His acceptance speech
00:51:57.580 Was angry and oppositional and confrontational
00:52:01.580 This is exactly the time he should have been reaching out
00:52:04.580 And trying to bring people together
00:52:05.580 But he didn't
00:52:06.580 What happened this morning?
00:52:07.580 A synagogue in New York City got vandalized
00:52:10.580 Covered in swastikas
00:52:12.580 So, you know, I guess they're taking their cue from him
00:52:15.580 That it's open season on Jews
00:52:17.580 Well, I'll say this
00:52:18.580 I mean, the New York City
00:52:19.580 Jewish Fire Department's commissioner
00:52:21.580 Has now
00:52:22.580 He's Jewish
00:52:23.580 He has now resigned
00:52:24.580 So, I guess
00:52:25.580 I think when most people realize
00:52:27.580 That there could be a problem
00:52:28.580 It's like when the subways
00:52:29.580 When there's violence
00:52:30.580 And he condones that
00:52:32.580 Because he feels violence is just a deconstruct
00:52:34.580 Right?
00:52:35.580 He doesn't buy into that
00:52:36.580 He doesn't believe that the police should be involved
00:52:38.580 And stuff
00:52:39.580 If crime goes through the roof in New York
00:52:41.580 And it goes quickly
00:52:42.580 Maybe that's when people will say
00:52:43.580 What on earth did we sign up for?
00:52:45.580 But again
00:52:46.580 Then you see like the Marit Stiles here
00:52:48.580 And you see, you know, Avi Lewis
00:52:50.580 Who wants to be the NDP leader at the federal level
00:52:52.580 Right?
00:52:53.580 Like, they're congratulating
00:52:55.580 They see his victory as inspiring
00:52:57.580 And I'm like
00:52:58.580 This is the problem with the left
00:53:00.580 Is how far they've gone
00:53:03.580 They're not progressive anymore
00:53:05.580 No, they're not being sensible
00:53:08.580 Like, you know, their job in government
00:53:11.580 And it is possible to have a sensible
00:53:13.580 New democratic government
00:53:14.580 Wabkanu in Manitoba is an example of that
00:53:18.580 And, you know, he tries to reach across the divide
00:53:21.580 And he tries to reach out to others
00:53:23.580 But Mondami is indicated to us
00:53:26.580 Throughout his career
00:53:27.580 Yeah
00:53:28.580 Which, you know, for the very little we know
00:53:29.580 About how he's made decisions
00:53:31.580 And the decisions he's made
00:53:33.580 He's shown us that he has no desire
00:53:35.580 To reach out to people
00:53:36.580 Like accusing, calling for boycott
00:53:38.580 And divest
00:53:39.580 And sanction against Israel
00:53:41.580 Like saying globalize the Intifada
00:53:43.580 He said that so many times
00:53:45.580 That means taking the Intifada
00:53:47.580 This campaign of terrorism
00:53:49.580 Against Israelis
00:53:51.580 The second Intifada
00:53:52.580 More people, more Jews were killed
00:53:54.580 In the second Intifada
00:53:55.580 Than there were on October 7th
00:53:57.580 He's saying he wants to globalize that
00:54:00.580 Like he wants to spread that
00:54:01.580 Around the world
00:54:02.580 To New York City
00:54:04.580 It's a terrible, terrible thing
00:54:06.580 And I think the people in New York City
00:54:08.580 Are going to come to realize their mistake very soon
00:54:10.580 Well, they might
00:54:11.580 But I would say
00:54:12.580 It's probably a little bit too late
00:54:13.580 We just, you know
00:54:14.580 It has been widely reported
00:54:15.580 Not just by you
00:54:16.580 But certainly even the New York Post
00:54:17.580 And that have widely reported
00:54:19.580 That there are nefarious regimes
00:54:21.580 Or people fueling this propaganda
00:54:24.580 And these anti-Western views
00:54:26.580 And we've got politicians
00:54:29.580 And political parties
00:54:30.580 That are just eating it right up
00:54:31.580 Left, left and center
00:54:32.580 And it's very scary
00:54:34.580 It is indeed
00:54:35.580 And I mean
00:54:36.580 There's a group called CARE
00:54:37.580 C-A-I-R
00:54:39.580 Which has been linked to funding of Hamas
00:54:41.580 And the PFLP
00:54:42.580 And extremist organizations
00:54:43.580 In the Middle East
00:54:44.580 And they have admitted now
00:54:46.580 Now
00:54:47.580 That they were funneling money
00:54:49.580 And backstopping all of Mondami's campaign
00:54:52.320 Like that's bad news for America
00:54:54.460 That's bad news for New York City
00:54:56.040 Yeah
00:54:56.560 Well Jagmeet Singh weighing in
00:54:58.440 So again
00:54:59.300 He says they'll elect someone
00:55:01.120 Who will fight for them
00:55:01.800 Despite all the odds
00:55:02.680 And powerful interests
00:55:03.620 Stacked against him
00:55:04.560 They're very happy about this
00:55:06.100 So we'll talk again
00:55:07.880 Warren
00:55:08.160 But I very much appreciate you
00:55:09.220 Filling in the blanks
00:55:10.440 Thanks my friend
00:55:11.180 There you go
00:55:11.720 That is Warren Kinsella
00:55:12.860 And by the way
00:55:13.460 Look
00:55:13.740 He's been one of the very leading voices
00:55:15.860 On anti-Semitism
00:55:17.560 And these kinds of threats
00:55:18.680 Not just since October 7th
00:55:20.420 But for 30 years
00:55:22.220 40 years right
00:55:23.240 He's got a book coming out
00:55:24.520 Called The Hidden Hand
00:55:25.500 The Information War
00:55:27.020 And the Rise of Anti-Semitic Propaganda
00:55:28.920 Hello darling
00:55:38.440 The world is in your heads
00:55:40.300 If we're things up with the way you're thinking
00:55:43.540 I feel like you don't understand
00:55:45.220 Hello gorgeous
00:55:48.880 The world is at your feet
00:55:50.440 If we're things up with the way you're thinking
00:55:53.940 I feel like you don't understand
00:55:54.940 I feel like you just can't be beat
00:55:55.940 I feel like you just can't be beat
00:55:56.940 You can't be beat
00:55:57.940 Is it too late now to say
00:56:00.940 I've had a wonderful time
00:56:02.940 Hello darling
00:56:04.940 The world is in your hands
00:56:08.940 Hello darling
00:56:09.940 The world is in your hands
00:56:10.940 Hello darling
00:56:11.940 The world is in your hands
00:56:12.940 If we're things up with the way you're thinking
00:56:13.940 I feel like you don't understand
00:56:15.940 Hello gorgeous
00:56:18.940 The world is at your feet
00:56:20.940 I can't be beat
00:56:23.940 Is it too late now to say
00:56:26.940 I've had a wonderful time
00:56:28.940 I've had a wonderful time
00:56:31.940 I've had a wonderful time
00:56:33.940 I've had a wonderful time
00:56:37.940 I've had a wonderful time
00:56:43.940 The world is in your hands
00:56:44.940 You won't be drunk just like champagne
00:56:55.940 It's like champagne
00:57:01.940 And I wonder, I wonder does it feel the same
00:57:10.940 Are you alright?
00:57:11.940 Cause he seems he's a bit of a mish dead guy
00:57:18.940 And it's funny
00:57:20.940 Cause he seems so nice
00:57:22.940 But is it too late to say I'm at a wonderful time?
00:57:32.940 Cause all the strangers find to think I get harder to find
00:57:48.940 It's like trying to run a 5K on Dr. Martens
00:57:52.940 It's like trying to catch a fish for the last pair of tights
00:58:04.940 It's like fishing around for changing her glove compartment
00:58:08.940 That's what it's like trying to give you advice
00:58:18.940 It's too late to say I've had a wonderful time
00:58:27.940 Some strangers find to think that they're harder to find
00:58:31.940 With a fight
00:58:35.940 But is it too late to say I've had a wonderful fight?
00:58:41.940 Well is it too late to say I've had a wonderful fight?
00:58:44.940 But is it too late to say I've had a wonderful fight?
00:58:49.940 I wait for time, I wait for time, I wait for time