kinsellacast - November 16, 2025


KINSELLACAST 388: Lilley and me, him in New Brunswick and me in Nova Scotia - plus Patti Smith, Don Gardner, Ecco Vandal, Home Front, Drain


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

119.3438

Word Count

7,173

Sentence Count

230

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

39


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 it's the kinsella cast starring warren kinsella
00:00:08.760 hey it's warren welcome to kinsella cast i am back from seeing jerry seinfeld
00:00:28.760 in kingston ontario drove in the driving rain last night and he played at slush puppy place
00:00:37.140 that's what it's called slush puppy place um refreshing change from the names of banks
00:00:43.000 and um i predicted to e that he would make fun of it and he in fact did and he was very funny
00:00:48.940 the guy's a genius so that was great and no we no pro palestinian pro hamas asshole interrupted
00:00:55.640 his stand-up so that made it even better um great show this week uh i start off for reasons that
00:01:03.020 will become evident with patty smith's gloria um her album the album which this song comes from
00:01:11.160 from which it comes comes from is horses 50 years old this month 50 years old like that
00:01:21.220 so she's got lenny k of course playing with her as he has for 50 years and lenny k um i was familiar
00:01:31.480 with before i was familiar with her because he was the guy who curated nuggets and we loved nuggets and
00:01:37.160 all the gems that are on there so i didn't really know much about her read about her and cream she's
00:01:43.800 super new york and i was much more focused on london and um she went on saturday night live
00:01:51.240 and played that song um i was 15 16 something like that i was like holy fuck anyway very new york
00:02:01.620 um took me a while to get the hang of her you know has a mapplethorpe photo of her on the cover
00:02:08.420 but just so brilliant and then i saw her a few years ago um in new york uh at irving plaza i was
00:02:16.620 there with a liar but patty told the truth um i've got akka vandal from south africa who now lives in
00:02:24.020 australia and i did this song's called molly and the start of the song i love it's just a very anybody
00:02:31.560 who's ever been in a studio with me knows this is an extremely war and can sell a start to a song
00:02:37.000 similarly i've got donald gardner donald gardner was an american r&b guy singer wrote songs he was a
00:02:47.860 drummer died sadly in 2018 and i just love the opening bit to this song like it's punk rock and
00:02:56.240 you can picture the buzzcocks doing it home front uh i've played before they're from edmonton like i
00:03:02.460 love these guys they're new wave synthy and they don't give a shit what anybody thinks so love their
00:03:10.000 stuff and then i've got drain and drain i'm surprised i've got drain on the lineup for you
00:03:15.280 drain i saw with drug church at the opera house a year or so ago and they weren't my cup of tea it was
00:03:22.920 kind of frat house um hardcore i'm into hardcore that has more menace associated with it but this
00:03:30.700 this song it's called who's having fun is actually menacing there's a lot of minor chords in there and
00:03:36.720 just has a different sound for drain um you know i'm a big believer in not following bands that look
00:03:43.820 like they're led by your gym teacher but i'll make an exception in this case so brian lilly this week and
00:03:49.620 then something different um i was in halifax this week speaking to the friends of jnf um my daughter was
00:03:56.820 there a whole bunch of people were there it was a great event to raise money for disabled kids
00:04:03.320 um in israel whose home was destroyed by a rocket a terrorist rocket so i was happy to be there to
00:04:12.200 help out so i'm going to play the talk that i gave it's about 50 minutes long i apologize for the length
00:04:17.680 but i thought i would play it for you um i'm going to start this part so basically i'm just going to
00:04:26.420 quote which she said weeks before my 17th birthday i was walking toward the mar-a-lago spa
00:04:33.520 on my way to work when a car slowed behind me i wish i could say that i sensed something evil was
00:04:40.660 tracking me but as i headed into the building i had no inkling of the danger i was in
00:04:45.700 in the car was a british socialite named gislaine maxwell
00:04:50.420 she goes on mar-a-lago employees are required to make guests feel welcome the woman's eyes alight
00:04:58.520 on my book which i've jammed with sticky notes are you interested in massage maxwell asks her
00:05:06.480 so she's excited um she goes to an address her dad drives her to learn how to give massages and make
00:05:15.880 more money and move up and maxwell greets her at the door jeffrey's been waiting for you waiting
00:05:22.380 to meet you come afterwards the girl went home and tried to shower it all off and she doesn't tell
00:05:32.460 her parents she writes so begins the period of my life that has been dissected and analyzed more than
00:05:39.920 any other i don't enjoy repeating this story it hurts to relive what i did and what was done to
00:05:46.620 me i worry that the awful details distract from a broader truth yes i was sexually abused
00:05:54.980 and she was 16 years old when it started 16 the words are all hers it's virginia roberts jeff i think
00:06:07.560 that's how you pronounce her name i'm gonna call her virginia and she got a job at donald trump's
00:06:14.220 mar-a-lago and within no time at all virginia was being raped by trump's friend jeffrey epstein
00:06:21.100 and over a two-year period many more men raped her she says in her book nobody's girl one of them was
00:06:29.840 the former andrew mount batten windsor a prince at the time the duke of york eighth in line to the
00:06:37.340 throne in that case maxwell said to her do for prince andrew what you do for epstein
00:06:44.500 this week virginia was back in the news as was jeffrey epstein and maxwell and of course donald trump
00:06:52.620 epstein's dead allegedly by suicide maxwell's in prison for now trump is president of the united
00:07:01.320 states and virginia well when you think about it and you should virginia's childhood was taken from
00:07:08.160 her she was a child and she was serially raped by rich and powerful men apart from epstein all of
00:07:16.520 those men still walked the streets of the world free there were many other girls like virginia
00:07:22.600 trafficked by epstein and maxwell like they lay there were postage stamps but it is arguably virginia's
00:07:31.180 connection to trump that has made headlines around the world the house democrats released just three
00:07:37.440 emails this week but they have caused a political earthquake on one from 2011 epstein writes quote
00:07:46.500 victim has spent hours at my house with trump end quote later for reasons i do not understand
00:07:55.120 the republicans thought it was a good idea to release the non-redacted email confirming that the victim's
00:08:00.820 name was indeed virginia's uh maybe they did that because virginia doesn't directly accuse trump of rape in
00:08:08.800 her book maybe they saw that as an exoneration i don't another email was arguably worse
00:08:16.480 because it directly linked trump to more victims than virginia quote of course he knew about the
00:08:23.160 girls epstein wrote in 2019 when trump was president trump asked maxwell to stop quote-unquote epstein
00:08:32.960 wrote like stop what recruiting victims in mar-a-lago trafficking in children we don't know trump is in
00:08:41.260 isn't saying and he's trying to cover up the release of further emails a few weeks ago i made a mistake
00:08:48.020 i suggested trump would concoct some way to deflect attention away from himself and jeffrey epstein
00:08:54.780 and girls like virginia he did for a while but now the epstein scandal and it is a dark and ungodly scandal
00:09:05.680 is back and more debased emails are apparently on the way like will any of the rich and powerful men
00:09:14.360 who have been named as buddies of jeffrey epstein like bill clinton and david copperfield and former
00:09:21.860 israeli prime minister ehud barak and kevin spacey alan dershowitz late new mexico governor bill richardson
00:09:29.960 vice president al gore will they ever be held to account for their proximity to a monster will trump
00:09:38.380 it seems unlikely to me now rich and powerful men are rarely held to account so the victims of jeffrey
00:09:48.380 epstein and gislin maxwell still await justice and they may be waiting a long time
00:09:53.180 and virginia she's dead she killed herself in april
00:09:59.000 jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine
00:10:07.480 i'm not really
00:10:12.480 pierre
00:10:13.900 murdered
00:10:16.440 how the thieves
00:10:18.040 wild cord of my sleeve
00:10:21.060 thick
00:10:21.300 horde stone
00:10:23.460 my sins my
00:10:25.080 oh they
00:10:26.380 belong to
00:10:27.380 me
00:10:29.020 me
00:10:30.880 people say
00:10:34.240 beware
00:10:35.980 But I don't care
00:10:40.080 The words are just rules and regulations
00:10:45.520 To me, me
00:10:49.520 I walk and I run
00:10:53.980 And I look so proud
00:10:57.520 I'm moving this year as my fear
00:11:02.360 Well, anything's allowed
00:11:05.920 I'll go to this here party
00:11:09.740 I just get bored
00:11:13.900 And you know, you got the wind to see
00:11:17.240 It's really young fun
00:11:18.960 Huffing on the park to meet
00:11:21.160 Leaning on the park to meet
00:11:23.080 Oh, she looks so good
00:11:25.540 Oh, she looks so fine
00:11:29.500 And I've got this crazy feeling
00:11:33.240 And then I'm gonna
00:11:34.480 Make her mind
00:11:36.440 Put my spell for her
00:11:39.060 Here she comes
00:11:40.520 Walking down the street
00:11:42.360 Here she comes
00:11:44.100 Coming through my door
00:11:45.860 Here she comes
00:11:47.540 Rolling up my stair
00:11:49.240 Here she comes
00:11:50.920 Was into the hall
00:11:52.960 It appeared she said
00:11:55.100 Oh, she looks so good
00:11:58.200 Oh, she looks so fine
00:12:00.920 And I've got this crazy feeling
00:12:04.180 And then I'm gonna
00:12:05.160 I, I, make my mind
00:12:06.940 And I hear this
00:12:08.240 Knocking on my door
00:12:09.580 Hear this knocking on my door
00:12:12.880 And I look up
00:12:16.280 And it's a big tower clock
00:12:17.920 And say, oh my God
00:12:19.620 It's midnight
00:12:20.820 And my baby
00:12:22.240 Is walking through the door
00:12:24.520 Laying on my couch
00:12:26.240 She whispers to me
00:12:27.740 And I take the big plunge
00:12:29.740 And oh, she looks so good
00:12:32.240 Oh, she looks so fine
00:12:35.580 And I'm gonna
00:12:37.340 Tell the world
00:12:38.560 And then I just
00:12:39.880 I, I, made her mind
00:12:41.600 Now says, darling
00:12:42.740 Tell me your mind
00:12:44.260 She told me your mind
00:12:45.920 She whispered to me
00:12:47.560 She told me your mind
00:12:49.080 Anonymous
00:12:49.940 Anonymous
00:12:51.680 Anonymous
00:12:53.600 Anonymous
00:12:53.920 Anonymous
00:12:54.860 J
00:12:56.420 L
00:12:58.700 Oh
00:13:00.000 R
00:13:01.940 I, I, I, I, I, I
00:13:04.260 G, L, O, I, A
00:13:05.740 Gloria
00:13:07.180 G, L, O, I, A
00:13:08.940 Gloria
00:13:10.460 G, L, O, I, A
00:13:12.200 Gloria
00:13:13.320 Georgia
00:13:14.960 Gloria
00:13:16.860 Who's at the stadium
00:13:26.520 Through the two thousand girls
00:13:29.480 Calling the name out to me
00:13:31.060 Marie, who's about to tell you that truth
00:13:34.300 How did you hear them?
00:13:36.280 How did you see?
00:13:37.400 I let my eyes rise to the big tower
00:13:39.960 Clapping out the gold bells
00:13:42.160 Chomping in my heart
00:13:43.840 Ding-dang, ding-dang, ding-dang, ding-dang
00:13:47.360 Ding-dang, ding-dang, ding-dang, ding-dang, ding-dang
00:13:50.540 Full time
00:13:52.680 We came in my room
00:13:55.800 When you were sitting near
00:13:58.260 We took this lunch
00:13:59.980 And before you were so cool
00:14:02.240 And before you were so fun
00:14:05.760 And I had to tell the world
00:14:08.620 That I made your mind, made your mind
00:14:11.560 To tell the truth
00:14:17.940 Ding-dang, ding-dang
00:14:20.080 Ding-dang, ding-dang
00:14:23.680 I did not get znaczy
00:14:25.300 I could hear it
00:14:26.540 I could hear it
00:14:28.560 havia cause you had another
00:14:31.440 It was fun
00:14:39.480 And I see that Jesus died
00:14:46.160 Somebody seen it in the wounds
00:14:54.440 But not mine
00:14:56.400 Oh, dear Lord
00:15:00.760 Oh, dear Lord
00:15:02.860 Oh, dear Lord
00:15:05.800 Oh, dear Lord
00:15:07.280 And we're back
00:15:34.700 And this week, Brian Lilley
00:15:36.520 I was in Nova Scotia
00:15:37.940 Speaking to JNF
00:15:40.840 And seeing my daughter
00:15:41.940 And this week
00:15:43.480 You're on the coast as well, aren't you?
00:15:46.800 Yeah, seeing my oldest boy
00:15:48.220 And right now I'm staring out
00:15:50.640 From this wonderful Airbnb
00:15:52.840 That I've used a couple times now
00:15:54.460 I'm staring out at the St. John River
00:15:57.060 And watching squirrels frolic
00:15:59.300 As a light snow dusts
00:16:01.460 You know, if you subscribe to my sub stack
00:16:04.880 You'll have seen the photo that I put out
00:16:06.360 Like I started writing as the sun's coming up
00:16:08.540 And it's so picturesque and wonderful
00:16:11.200 And we live in a beautiful country
00:16:14.360 And I always say that
00:16:16.700 And I don't care about the political problems
00:16:18.540 Of whoever's in
00:16:19.340 We survived them all
00:16:20.320 Enjoy the beauty of this place
00:16:22.680 Are any of the squirrels
00:16:24.440 On the major projects list?
00:16:28.660 Well, yes, but they were approved eight years ago
00:16:30.880 And they're still wondering
00:16:31.800 Why they don't have any nuts
00:16:33.060 Explain that to us
00:16:35.960 Explain that to the squirrels and to us
00:16:38.300 There's kind of been a mixed reaction
00:16:41.540 Mixed bag reaction
00:16:42.720 To the Prime Minister's second list
00:16:45.500 Of major projects
00:16:46.520 It feels like they're trying to make it
00:16:48.660 Christmas morning
00:16:49.540 Every time he does one of these
00:16:50.880 Should we be impressed?
00:16:52.740 Or should we be a little bit skeptical
00:16:54.860 About what's on there?
00:16:56.680 I think we should be skeptical
00:16:58.200 For two reasons
00:16:59.080 One, so I'm sitting right now
00:17:01.520 Maybe a 10-15 minute walk
00:17:04.020 From the project office
00:17:05.560 For the Sisson mine
00:17:06.680 That's the Tunston mine
00:17:07.900 Down here in New Brunswick
00:17:09.100 That is on the list
00:17:10.560 Here's the problem
00:17:11.940 The Liberals made a big to-do
00:17:14.000 About approving this mine
00:17:15.700 In 2017
00:17:16.700 And nothing's happened
00:17:18.880 The Pentagon
00:17:19.540 Even wants in on this mine
00:17:21.480 Because they want the Tunston
00:17:22.600 They need the Tunston
00:17:24.160 The American Defense Department
00:17:26.860 Is like, yes
00:17:27.620 We want this to go
00:17:28.840 And, you know
00:17:29.860 Back to the Biden days
00:17:31.200 When I was talking to
00:17:32.200 Folks in that administration
00:17:34.280 About their frustrations with Canada
00:17:36.020 I was like
00:17:36.920 You guys just won't approve anything
00:17:39.020 And so now
00:17:41.200 It appears that we are
00:17:42.520 But is anything going to happen
00:17:43.740 To this project?
00:17:44.540 The project is about
00:17:45.760 60 kilometers northeast
00:17:47.140 Of Fredericton
00:17:47.900 The project office
00:17:49.740 Is downtown
00:17:50.740 We've known about this thing
00:17:52.900 For a long time
00:17:54.340 And we've never done anything
00:17:55.700 2017
00:17:56.820 Dominic LeBlanc
00:17:57.900 And a bunch of other liberals
00:17:59.000 Show up
00:17:59.620 And they're like
00:18:00.000 Oh, this is important
00:18:01.080 To the future of Canada
00:18:02.100 We're
00:18:02.520 Construction
00:18:03.460 We'll start soon
00:18:04.560 It still hasn't started
00:18:06.360 So you've got to worry about that
00:18:08.320 And then Carney
00:18:09.620 When he was in Prince Rupert
00:18:11.920 Last Thursday
00:18:13.000 My jaw dropped
00:18:15.940 When he said this
00:18:17.500 You know
00:18:18.300 They make it sound like
00:18:19.640 These have all had
00:18:20.980 The blessing
00:18:21.820 Like there's been a
00:18:22.640 Laying on of hands
00:18:23.780 From Pope Carney
00:18:24.900 Onto these projects
00:18:26.640 And they can now
00:18:28.040 Go forth and multiply
00:18:29.120 And he just said
00:18:31.440 You know
00:18:32.020 Some of these may not go
00:18:33.440 Ahead
00:18:34.320 They've got to go through
00:18:35.140 Their approval still
00:18:36.160 Well
00:18:37.120 Okay
00:18:38.100 So you're announcing
00:18:39.260 Projects that should have
00:18:40.680 Been built long ago
00:18:41.560 His first list of projects
00:18:43.040 It was stuff that was
00:18:43.880 Already well underway
00:18:45.320 Like Darlington
00:18:46.400 In Ontario
00:18:47.060 And the copper mine
00:18:48.120 In Saskatchewan
00:18:50.180 That's going to be done
00:18:50.900 Next year
00:18:51.440 I mean
00:18:52.380 This is my frustration
00:18:54.580 And I get tired of saying it
00:18:56.140 But
00:18:56.420 I want him to live up
00:18:57.880 To his word
00:18:58.400 Act
00:18:59.020 Think big
00:18:59.820 Act bigger
00:19:00.420 Move at speeds
00:19:01.100 Not seen in generations
00:19:02.100 He's not doing that
00:19:03.380 He keeps overhyping things
00:19:04.840 Like
00:19:05.060 Why are you making it sound
00:19:06.440 Like these are all
00:19:07.480 Going ahead
00:19:08.120 And then you say
00:19:08.920 But you know
00:19:10.100 They still got to get approved
00:19:11.380 He's
00:19:12.320 It's
00:19:12.680 It's
00:19:13.180 Very Justin Trudeau-esque
00:19:15.400 Isn't it
00:19:16.360 Lots of sizzle
00:19:17.440 Not as much steak
00:19:18.580 But this guy said
00:19:20.380 He would be different
00:19:21.560 This guy said
00:19:22.340 He wouldn't do that
00:19:23.500 And he was unambiguous
00:19:25.020 About pipelines
00:19:26.020 Also
00:19:26.580 Not in the mix
00:19:27.660 And quite a few other things
00:19:29.740 Is he tempting the fates
00:19:31.720 I mean
00:19:32.100 His budget hasn't passed yet
00:19:33.840 Has it
00:19:34.300 I mean
00:19:34.600 Could
00:19:35.120 Could the government
00:19:36.200 Be defeated
00:19:37.000 On the budget
00:19:38.320 So
00:19:39.560 Yeah
00:19:41.940 Writing about that
00:19:42.820 This morning
00:19:43.400 And
00:19:44.240 Saying like
00:19:45.140 Yeah
00:19:45.320 Of course
00:19:45.760 There's always
00:19:46.600 The possibility
00:19:47.260 Of an election
00:19:48.120 Do I think
00:19:50.980 It will happen
00:19:51.600 It's unlikely
00:19:52.840 Blocking conservatives
00:19:54.740 Say they're definitely
00:19:55.420 Going to vote against it
00:19:56.500 Elizabeth May
00:19:57.220 Was against the budget
00:19:58.200 Now she may be for it
00:19:59.460 The NDP can't make up
00:20:00.840 Their minds
00:20:01.560 To be or not to be
00:20:03.060 That is the question
00:20:03.940 And
00:20:04.920 You know
00:20:05.940 But we're in this weird situation
00:20:07.640 Where people are saying
00:20:09.480 Well of course
00:20:10.140 Nobody wants an election
00:20:11.280 We'd be crazy
00:20:12.300 To have an election now
00:20:13.480 And yet
00:20:14.680 Could one happen
00:20:15.600 So I posted this video
00:20:17.480 Of Mike Donison
00:20:19.660 Who's had all kinds of
00:20:21.460 You know
00:20:21.780 Been active in
00:20:22.720 Conservative politics
00:20:24.620 Going back decades
00:20:25.800 Now is a
00:20:27.300 Lecturer
00:20:27.840 To
00:20:28.300 UBC
00:20:29.980 Okanagan
00:20:30.840 In politics
00:20:32.440 And someone
00:20:33.340 Videos him
00:20:34.060 Giving a talk
00:20:35.400 And I present
00:20:36.060 Part of the video
00:20:36.780 And people that want to
00:20:37.660 Go off and see the rest
00:20:39.140 Can
00:20:39.360 Can click through
00:20:40.560 And he talks about
00:20:42.000 How Joe Clark's
00:20:43.040 Government fell
00:20:43.720 And of course
00:20:44.240 People that want to
00:20:45.200 Mock Joe Clark's
00:20:46.020 Government
00:20:46.320 And I don't discourage
00:20:48.000 That
00:20:48.280 Will
00:20:49.580 Will just say
00:20:50.640 Well it's because
00:20:51.040 They couldn't count
00:20:51.780 No they thought
00:20:53.140 The government
00:20:53.620 Would not fall
00:20:54.380 That there was no chance
00:20:55.540 They thought
00:20:56.580 They had the votes
00:20:57.400 Flora McDonald
00:20:58.540 Was at a NATO conference
00:21:00.000 In Brussels
00:21:00.580 As foreign affairs minister
00:21:01.940 Once they figured out
00:21:04.680 That
00:21:05.020 Oh
00:21:05.740 This may not pass
00:21:06.940 And they're trying
00:21:07.340 To bring her back
00:21:08.220 They tried to get her
00:21:09.180 To Paris
00:21:09.640 For the Concorde
00:21:10.460 Which was the only flight
00:21:11.820 That would let her make it
00:21:12.760 She missed it by 15 minutes
00:21:14.980 And couldn't make it back
00:21:16.940 In time for the vote
00:21:17.720 There was another
00:21:18.300 Calgary MP
00:21:19.400 Who was a lawyer
00:21:20.920 Who was in court
00:21:21.940 Arguing for a client
00:21:23.460 And was told
00:21:24.940 You got to get back
00:21:25.720 His flight gets delayed
00:21:26.740 By two hours
00:21:27.540 And it's just
00:21:28.860 A comedy of errors
00:21:29.680 These things can happen
00:21:31.100 And so
00:21:32.340 We could end up
00:21:33.900 In an election
00:21:35.100 Is it likely?
00:21:37.740 No
00:21:38.120 Is it
00:21:38.720 Possible?
00:21:40.120 Absolutely
00:21:40.700 So buckle up
00:21:42.400 And get ready
00:21:43.380 You know
00:21:44.280 Unpredictable things
00:21:45.300 Can happen
00:21:45.800 I mean
00:21:46.540 Who could have
00:21:47.300 Predict
00:21:47.660 I would have seen
00:21:48.380 Kingston, Ontario
00:21:49.780 Last night
00:21:50.420 At the Slush Puppy Place
00:21:52.040 That's his actual name
00:21:53.400 Watching
00:21:54.380 Jerry Seinfeld
00:21:56.000 Give his
00:21:56.340 I love slush puppies
00:21:57.740 As a kid
00:21:58.560 And I love Seinfeld
00:21:59.900 It's a great combo
00:22:01.180 It was
00:22:01.840 On Tragically Hip Way
00:22:03.500 They've got a big
00:22:04.320 That's the name
00:22:05.260 Of the little street
00:22:06.160 And it's Slush Puppy Place
00:22:08.020 Is where he played
00:22:09.440 So it was
00:22:10.060 Unpredictable things
00:22:11.620 Happened in life
00:22:12.380 And as in politics
00:22:13.920 But I mean
00:22:15.440 Is it
00:22:16.180 Tempting the fates
00:22:17.160 For Pierre Polyev
00:22:18.240 Polyev
00:22:19.180 He seems to be back
00:22:20.460 To his old
00:22:21.180 Kentanker
00:22:21.940 His self
00:22:22.480 You know
00:22:23.160 Getting mad at the media
00:22:24.200 And everybody else
00:22:25.660 Besides
00:22:26.180 Is it risky
00:22:27.900 I mean
00:22:28.460 Abacus and others
00:22:29.680 Are saying that
00:22:30.620 He's not as ahead
00:22:31.960 As he needs to be
00:22:33.180 In some cases
00:22:34.480 He's not ahead at all
00:22:35.440 Is it a risk
00:22:36.560 For the Tories
00:22:37.160 To have an election?
00:22:38.020 Yes
00:22:40.480 But it's also a risk
00:22:41.380 For the liberals
00:22:42.420 And at the end of the day
00:22:43.280 It's up to the government
00:22:44.180 Of the day
00:22:44.620 Whoever that is
00:22:45.480 To find enough votes
00:22:46.400 To make their budget pass
00:22:47.500 Unless they want an election
00:22:48.780 And I've been saying
00:22:50.160 For a while
00:22:50.740 Of the two main parties
00:22:52.200 The liberals are
00:22:53.500 Well for a while
00:22:54.780 Until the
00:22:55.660 Dantremont floor crossing
00:22:56.780 They were chomping at the pit
00:22:57.860 For an election
00:22:58.460 They haven't been as loud
00:23:00.180 And vocal about it lately
00:23:01.400 I mean
00:23:01.680 You knew that they wanted
00:23:03.100 An election
00:23:03.560 Because they just kept saying
00:23:04.660 Those conservatives
00:23:05.780 Want an election
00:23:06.620 It'd be dangerous
00:23:07.580 For those conservatives
00:23:08.580 To force an election
00:23:09.680 It's kind of like
00:23:11.000 Taunting the guy
00:23:11.740 Across the playground
00:23:13.400 You know
00:23:14.580 About a fight
00:23:15.560 Well
00:23:16.160 You know
00:23:16.800 You really want to fight
00:23:18.020 And you're just
00:23:18.820 Trying to provoke him
00:23:19.840 You know
00:23:22.060 So
00:23:22.700 Polioff is not as popular
00:23:26.000 Personally
00:23:26.680 You know
00:23:27.720 Prior to the
00:23:29.000 To Trudeau resigning
00:23:31.660 He was more popular
00:23:32.960 Than his party
00:23:33.720 And
00:23:34.320 In the full comment podcast
00:23:36.460 That comes out tomorrow
00:23:37.780 I interview
00:23:38.240 Ian Brody
00:23:39.660 Who was Harper's
00:23:40.960 Chief of Staff
00:23:41.720 Throughout the
00:23:42.680 Early
00:23:43.380 The late opposition time
00:23:44.860 And the first couple
00:23:46.120 Years in government
00:23:46.920 And of course
00:23:47.920 He's dealt with
00:23:48.560 Floor crossers
00:23:49.280 Belinda Stronick
00:23:50.100 He's dealt with
00:23:51.480 Floor crossers
00:23:52.100 Coming the other way
00:23:52.780 That nobody remembers
00:23:53.700 Wajit Khan
00:23:54.480 Joe Camuso
00:23:55.140 And
00:23:56.540 And he's dealt with
00:23:58.280 Trying to
00:23:58.900 Bring a caucus together
00:24:00.040 After a traumatic event
00:24:01.140 And we talk about that
00:24:02.720 How Polioff was
00:24:03.880 Way ahead of his party
00:24:04.960 Now he's a drag
00:24:06.180 What does that mean
00:24:08.500 But
00:24:08.740 The party numbers
00:24:10.240 Are
00:24:10.980 You look at
00:24:11.640 Advocates
00:24:12.060 You look at
00:24:12.720 Most of them
00:24:13.800 They're pretty close
00:24:14.500 Except ECOS
00:24:15.560 I don't know if you saw
00:24:16.340 That seat model
00:24:17.980 Of ECOS
00:24:18.580 343 seats
00:24:20.800 For the liberals
00:24:21.440 If an election
00:24:22.100 Were held today
00:24:22.940 Frank Graves
00:24:25.560 Has
00:24:25.860 The liberals
00:24:27.360 Ahead
00:24:27.760 By like
00:24:28.180 Five six points
00:24:29.160 In Alberta
00:24:29.760 I can't take anything
00:24:32.600 From ECOS
00:24:33.200 Seriously
00:24:33.620 But it is
00:24:34.380 Entertaining
00:24:35.020 It's always
00:24:35.520 Entertaining
00:24:36.060 Yeah
00:24:36.280 So but like
00:24:37.560 The party numbers
00:24:38.400 Are
00:24:38.820 Right now
00:24:39.740 Are
00:24:40.260 Kind of
00:24:41.500 In that
00:24:42.280 Same position
00:24:43.940 We were
00:24:44.300 At the end
00:24:44.860 Of the last election
00:24:45.720 Which means
00:24:47.420 That
00:24:48.240 You know
00:24:50.100 If it came back
00:24:50.820 Like that
00:24:51.200 At the end
00:24:51.580 Of an election
00:24:52.140 We would have
00:24:53.300 A minority
00:24:54.000 And then the campaign
00:24:55.060 Would decide
00:24:55.660 Is it a blue minority
00:24:56.960 Or a red minority
00:24:57.880 And quite frankly
00:24:58.860 Could go either way
00:25:00.280 Depending on what
00:25:01.000 The ballot question is
00:25:02.520 So I think
00:25:04.700 That
00:25:05.040 You know
00:25:06.440 You've heard
00:25:06.880 All this talk
00:25:07.740 About
00:25:08.060 We've got more
00:25:09.480 We've got more
00:25:10.140 Floor crosses
00:25:10.760 It's not just
00:25:11.620 Entremont
00:25:12.060 There's so many
00:25:12.580 I believe
00:25:13.540 That they were
00:25:13.980 Talking to a bunch
00:25:14.720 Of people
00:25:15.040 But I also
00:25:15.620 Think that
00:25:16.060 They're exaggerating
00:25:16.980 It as a bit
00:25:17.600 Of a psyop
00:25:18.380 They're messing
00:25:19.980 With the conservatives
00:25:20.800 Minds
00:25:21.480 100%
00:25:22.100 I think they want
00:25:23.440 To undermine
00:25:23.940 Paliyev to get him
00:25:24.780 Out
00:25:24.980 Because
00:25:25.480 I know you
00:25:27.500 Differ on this
00:25:28.240 And happy to debate
00:25:29.680 But I think
00:25:30.380 That they say
00:25:31.020 Look
00:25:31.460 If we go into
00:25:32.320 An election
00:25:32.780 And affordability
00:25:33.740 Is the issue
00:25:34.260 He's a threat
00:25:35.360 To us
00:25:35.720 We've got to
00:25:36.640 Get rid of him
00:25:37.220 Bring in somebody
00:25:38.080 New
00:25:38.460 Inexperienced
00:25:39.360 Still getting
00:25:40.080 On their feet
00:25:41.160 Then we can win
00:25:42.460 If we go to
00:25:43.060 A spring election
00:25:44.260 Which some liberals
00:25:45.880 Are planning for
00:25:47.100 In government
00:25:47.620 They're always planning
00:25:48.700 For an election
00:25:49.640 When you're in a minority
00:25:50.480 So I think
00:25:51.520 They want to
00:25:51.880 Get rid of him
00:25:52.600 But seriously
00:25:54.600 If things drop
00:25:56.300 Tomorrow
00:25:56.780 Toss a coin
00:25:58.700 I mean
00:25:59.220 Voters are pickle
00:26:00.640 Polls can change
00:26:01.380 Campaigns matter
00:26:02.160 Etc
00:26:02.520 But if it were
00:26:04.420 Just like
00:26:05.040 Tomorrow
00:26:05.560 Vote
00:26:06.040 I think
00:26:07.320 It would go
00:26:08.220 Either way
00:26:09.100 Minority
00:26:10.300 Most likely liberal
00:26:11.340 But could be conservative
00:26:12.300 Well there may be
00:26:13.560 You know
00:26:14.040 I'd always
00:26:14.580 Trust you
00:26:15.460 And your sources
00:26:16.360 There may indeed
00:26:17.920 Be some liberals
00:26:18.640 Who want to have
00:26:19.340 A change from
00:26:20.300 Polliet
00:26:20.680 But I think
00:26:21.180 They're fucking
00:26:21.960 Crazy
00:26:22.540 Because I think
00:26:23.660 He's a gift
00:26:24.280 From God
00:26:24.860 For the liberals
00:26:25.940 Like he's obviously
00:26:26.880 Never going to
00:26:27.440 Change his ways
00:26:28.240 Final thing
00:26:29.500 Donald Trump
00:26:31.880 Has rolled back
00:26:33.620 Tariffs
00:26:34.500 On a whole bunch
00:26:35.760 Of foodstuffs
00:26:36.860 And it had
00:26:38.740 The desired effect
00:26:39.760 Of turning attention
00:26:41.040 Away a bit
00:26:41.700 From the Epstein files
00:26:43.020 I want to
00:26:43.640 Mea culpa
00:26:44.380 Mea maxima culpa
00:26:45.740 I had said
00:26:46.680 Months ago
00:26:47.160 In our paper
00:26:47.840 Oh he'll figure out
00:26:49.260 A way to change
00:26:49.880 The channel
00:26:50.320 On the Epstein files
00:26:51.440 It's damaging to him
00:26:53.060 And you know
00:26:53.620 People move on
00:26:54.360 Well I guess
00:26:54.740 They did for a while
00:26:55.760 But now it's back
00:26:57.280 With a vengeance
00:26:57.920 What's your quick take
00:26:59.140 On what's happening
00:27:00.280 In the states
00:27:00.820 Because it really
00:27:01.660 Is sorted
00:27:02.360 And shocking stuff
00:27:03.540 Well so the
00:27:05.860 The emails
00:27:07.620 The Democrats
00:27:08.360 Released show
00:27:09.220 That Epstein's
00:27:10.160 Talking about him
00:27:10.900 But there's weird
00:27:11.540 Stuff like
00:27:12.120 Epstein conspiring
00:27:13.580 With a journalist
00:27:14.540 Who wrote about
00:27:16.580 Trump
00:27:17.020 On how to damage
00:27:18.920 Him
00:27:19.220 And also conspiring
00:27:20.640 With Democrat
00:27:21.240 Politicians
00:27:22.000 On how to damage
00:27:23.620 Him
00:27:23.760 So it's really weird
00:27:24.760 Emails that they
00:27:25.500 Released
00:27:25.760 Look I think
00:27:26.500 That
00:27:26.740 I've said for a long time
00:27:28.660 I don't think
00:27:29.400 That Bill Clinton
00:27:30.560 You know
00:27:31.420 Is as guilty
00:27:32.240 Of everything they say
00:27:33.220 And I don't think
00:27:33.720 The same about
00:27:34.560 Donald Trump
00:27:35.180 Do I think
00:27:36.060 Weird stuff happened
00:27:36.880 Probably
00:27:37.280 Do I think
00:27:37.740 They were often
00:27:38.120 Molesting young girls
00:27:39.060 Probably not
00:27:40.560 Yeah I could be
00:27:42.560 Proven wrong on that
00:27:43.560 I think that
00:27:44.280 Both sides
00:27:44.820 Have been using
00:27:45.460 This for years now
00:27:46.520 If you're in power
00:27:47.800 Release the Epstein files
00:27:49.220 If you're not in power
00:27:50.400 We don't want
00:27:51.220 The Epstein file
00:27:52.200 You know
00:27:52.540 Like it goes back
00:27:53.520 And forth
00:27:53.820 A couple of months ago
00:27:54.900 The Democrats
00:27:55.540 Were saying
00:27:55.920 Why are we still
00:27:56.680 Talking about
00:27:57.220 The Epstein files
00:27:58.100 What's Trump now saying
00:27:59.480 Why are we still
00:28:00.580 Talking about
00:28:01.140 The Epstein files
00:28:02.040 I
00:28:03.820 I don't think
00:28:05.480 There's as much
00:28:06.060 There there
00:28:06.660 But there's more
00:28:07.480 There there
00:28:08.000 Than they want
00:28:08.800 Either side
00:28:09.600 Wants to admit
00:28:10.440 I think that's why
00:28:11.620 There's been foot
00:28:12.320 Dragging on this
00:28:13.060 I'm going to bet
00:28:14.000 That there's no
00:28:14.520 Big smoking gun
00:28:15.700 But that there's
00:28:17.600 Something there
00:28:18.440 Damaging for each side
00:28:19.860 Kind of like
00:28:20.440 A few years ago
00:28:22.400 The story I heard
00:28:23.240 Was in that
00:28:24.000 Ashley Madison
00:28:24.940 Breach
00:28:27.020 Of security
00:28:29.260 That there were
00:28:31.160 Members of parliament
00:28:32.940 From all parties
00:28:33.840 Found in that
00:28:35.140 And all the parties
00:28:37.280 Just kind of agreed
00:28:38.080 Okay we're not going to
00:28:38.940 Bring this up
00:28:39.520 During the election
00:28:40.620 Because they all
00:28:42.780 Had you know
00:28:43.540 Idiots with
00:28:44.120 Sipper problems
00:28:44.940 Yeah
00:28:45.300 I totally agree
00:28:46.640 I'll say this
00:28:47.720 About the tariffs
00:28:48.360 Being dropped by
00:28:49.040 Trump
00:28:49.340 This could help us
00:28:50.680 Especially on things
00:28:51.520 Like coffee
00:28:52.100 Because we don't
00:28:54.100 Grow coffee here
00:28:55.040 A lot of our coffee
00:28:56.960 Comes from Brazil
00:28:58.060 Number one coffee
00:29:00.040 Producing country
00:29:00.740 In the world
00:29:01.560 It gets exported
00:29:03.040 Into the United States
00:29:04.600 A tariff is placed
00:29:05.840 On it on the way in
00:29:06.820 For a while
00:29:07.820 It was getting
00:29:08.260 A double tariff
00:29:09.020 When it got imported
00:29:09.980 Into Canada
00:29:10.700 We dropped our
00:29:11.860 Tariffs on coffee
00:29:12.780 Now the Americans
00:29:13.660 Have that
00:29:14.080 Should help with
00:29:14.500 Coffee prices
00:29:15.160 Might help with
00:29:15.720 Other things
00:29:16.260 Like beef prices
00:29:18.740 Which have been
00:29:19.240 Under pressure
00:29:19.800 All over the place
00:29:20.780 And maybe some
00:29:22.360 Fruits and vegetables
00:29:23.220 That transit through
00:29:25.260 The US
00:29:25.800 On their way to Canada
00:29:26.640 There you go
00:29:27.900 Mr. Lilly
00:29:29.260 You're out
00:29:29.980 Near the waterfront
00:29:31.100 And you've covered
00:29:31.800 The waterfront
00:29:32.600 For which we are
00:29:33.780 Immensely grateful
00:29:35.220 Me and Marlon Brando
00:29:36.740 Yeah
00:29:37.520 Go and enjoy
00:29:38.520 The squirrels
00:29:39.560 Ask them
00:29:40.500 I think they need
00:29:41.320 To be interviewed
00:29:41.880 About whether they
00:29:42.760 Think they're going
00:29:43.320 To get a grant
00:29:44.120 From government soon
00:29:45.420 It is Atlantic Canada
00:29:47.440 After all
00:29:48.020 Have a great
00:29:48.940 Great day
00:29:49.920 And a great week
00:29:50.580 Thank you sir
00:29:51.280 My baby
00:30:02.400 Like a boogaloo
00:30:03.900 She's doing this
00:30:06.840 What that I do
00:30:08.340 My baby
00:30:10.060 Like a boogaloo
00:30:11.620 She's doing this
00:30:14.440 What that I do
00:30:16.000 She's doing it
00:30:17.820 To the right
00:30:18.660 She's a boogaloo
00:30:20.040 She's moving to the left
00:30:22.500 She's a boogaloo
00:30:24.000 All night
00:30:26.060 My baby
00:30:26.780 A boogaloo
00:30:27.780 That girl
00:30:29.320 Is a boogaloo
00:30:30.620 One more time
00:30:33.180 All together
00:30:37.060 You better get ready
00:30:40.880 Out on the floor
00:30:44.560 And my baby
00:30:48.300 She's doing this
00:30:48.660 What that I do
00:30:54.100 My baby
00:30:55.840 Like a boogaloo
00:30:57.300 She's doing this
00:31:00.300 What that I do
00:31:01.840 You want to see her
00:31:04.140 Do the clock
00:31:05.600 To even do the
00:31:08.060 Dead rock
00:31:09.260 My baby
00:31:11.300 Like a boogaloo
00:31:12.420 To even do the
00:31:15.780 Feeling rock
00:31:16.680 All together
00:31:19.060 You're looking so good
00:31:23.460 Oh you're looking fine
00:31:27.260 I'm so glad
00:31:30.440 You're looking fine
00:31:30.980 I'm so glad
00:31:31.520 You're looking fine
00:31:32.100 Cause I'm watching my baby
00:31:34.780 Who that I do
00:31:35.880 She's doing this
00:31:38.740 What that I do
00:31:40.320 My baby
00:31:42.080 Like a boogaloo
00:31:43.520 She's doing this
00:31:46.200 What that I do
00:31:48.140 I'm watching my baby
00:31:50.360 Do my dreams
00:31:51.740 She's doing this
00:31:53.560 She's even
00:31:54.320 Burnt the work
00:31:55.620 Wanna see my baby
00:31:58.180 Do the fly
00:31:59.300 She's even
00:32:01.680 Do the
00:32:02.300 FBI
00:32:03.280 Come on
00:32:05.080 One more time
00:32:06.160 I'll ask her
00:32:10.140 For the FBI
00:32:13.780 You better get ready
00:32:17.360 Oh my baby
00:32:20.900 What the boogaloo
00:32:22.260 To do the
00:32:24.840 Dead rock
00:32:25.740 Well I'm
00:32:26.500 Do
00:32:26.840 Oh my baby
00:32:28.620 What the boogaloo
00:32:30.040 She's doing this
00:32:31.040 To tell me
00:32:32.680 What the boogaloo
00:32:34.040 So who's got the money
00:32:52.320 Cause the world
00:32:53.320 Shopping through our dirty minds
00:32:55.640 So who's putting money
00:33:00.260 On the line
00:33:01.320 That I'm waking up alive
00:33:03.620 Oh yeah
00:33:07.260 I'm waiting to learn
00:33:11.220 To learn
00:33:12.180 To learn
00:33:13.140 To learn
00:33:14.000 To learn
00:33:14.020 To fly
00:33:15.200 I'm waiting
00:33:18.120 To learn
00:33:19.160 To learn
00:33:20.180 To learn
00:33:21.040 To learn
00:33:21.920 The reason why
00:33:23.180 You're waiting
00:33:24.240 Till I'm high
00:33:26.180 You're waiting
00:33:28.180 Till I'm high
00:33:30.480 I'm all up in my head
00:33:34.120 I forget what we'll say
00:33:37.920 Yeah
00:33:46.480 I'm waiting
00:33:49.840 To learn
00:33:50.320 To learn
00:33:50.460 To learn
00:33:51.300 To learn
00:33:52.740 To learn
00:33:53.460 To learn
00:33:54.240 To get
00:33:54.400 To learn
00:33:55.140 To fly
00:33:55.640 I'm waiting
00:33:57.580 To learn
00:33:58.480 To learn
00:33:59.580 I'm waiting
00:33:59.620 To learn
00:33:59.720 To learn
00:34:00.400 To learn
00:34:00.900 To learn
00:34:01.260 The reason why
00:34:02.440 You're waiting
00:34:03.860 Till I'm high
00:34:05.480 You're waiting
00:34:07.840 Till I'm high
00:34:09.840 I'm all up in my head
00:34:14.480 I forget what we said
00:34:17.280 I'm hating that I'm right
00:34:22.580 You waited till I'm high
00:34:26.460 I'm all up in my head
00:34:29.840 I forget what we said
00:34:33.840 You wasted what we had created
00:34:37.600 Time is underrated
00:34:39.740 Now I know we're fading
00:34:41.660 You wasted what we had created
00:34:45.580 Time were medicated
00:34:47.560 Now I know we're fading
00:34:49.600 You wasted what we had created
00:34:53.500 Time is underrated
00:34:55.580 So we gotta send it
00:34:57.960 You wasted what we had created
00:35:01.600 Time were medicated
00:35:03.480 Now I know we're fading
00:35:07.600 Cry
00:35:16.160 Cry
00:35:22.160 You'll wait until I'm high
00:35:30.040 I'm all up in my head
00:35:33.860 I'll forget what we're saying
00:35:38.100 I'm hating that I'm right
00:35:42.100 You'll wait until I'm high
00:35:46.100 I'm all up in my head
00:35:49.860 I'll forget what we're saying
00:36:03.860 I'll forget what we're saying
00:36:05.860 I'll forget what we're saying
00:36:08.020 I'm all up in my head
00:36:10.260 I'm all up in my head
00:36:12.260 I'm all up in my head
00:36:14.500 I'll forget what we're saying
00:36:16.180 I'm all up in my head
00:36:17.060 I'll forget what we're saying
00:36:18.500 I'm all up in my head
00:36:20.900 I'm all up in my head
00:36:23.100 I'm all up in my head
00:36:24.660 I'm all up in my head
00:36:26.660 Thank you.
00:36:56.660 I'm now going to embarrass somebody.
00:37:06.920 My daughter, Emma, is here today over there.
00:37:11.760 Everybody say hi to Emma.
00:37:17.340 Emma has authorized me to say she is a citizen of the Carcross Toggers First Nation.
00:37:24.140 She's indigenous to that land and place.
00:37:28.120 And that's why, in part, I am a Zionist.
00:37:32.380 I believe that people who are indigenous to a place have a right to that place.
00:37:37.280 I believe with all my heart, all my head, that the Jewish people are indigenous to Israel.
00:37:43.620 So for me to be a Zionist is simply to believe that people, the Jewish people are indigenous to Israel.
00:37:52.160 And that's it.
00:37:53.460 It's that simple.
00:37:54.320 Just like my beautiful daughter is indigenous to the Carcross Toggers First Nation territory.
00:38:02.780 Now, I can't remember if I was a Zionist on March 17th, 1980.
00:38:08.520 Back then, believe it or not, appearances notwithstanding, I was in a punk rock band.
00:38:17.020 And I love punk rock because it opposed bigotry, opposed hatred.
00:38:21.580 Real punk rock does.
00:38:22.660 And so does Emma.
00:38:23.360 She and I go to shows together.
00:38:24.680 On that night, my band was opening for this big British punk rock band called 999.
00:38:32.720 And so we did our set and we got into the crowd to enjoy our show.
00:38:37.600 And one of my buddies tapped me on the shoulder.
00:38:40.920 And he said, there's some guys over there making Nazi salutes.
00:38:46.280 And I didn't believe him.
00:38:49.500 So we made our way through the crowd.
00:38:51.680 And there, standing in front of me, were three guys, big guys, shaved heads, suspenders, T-shirts, Doc Martin boots with colored laces.
00:39:02.100 One of them was wearing a T-shirt that said, drown the boat people.
00:39:06.520 Because at that point, as some of you may remember, Canada was accepting refugees from the former Cambodia.
00:39:13.800 And some people called them the boat people.
00:39:15.620 Anyway, I went up to the guy in the T-shirt.
00:39:18.860 And I said, you should stop making Nazi salutes.
00:39:23.280 And he called me an effing Jew.
00:39:25.540 And I said it again.
00:39:26.780 I said, you should really stop.
00:39:29.640 And he called me an effing Jew again, took a swipe at me.
00:39:32.420 And a big fight erupted between the skinheads and me and my buddies.
00:39:37.740 We won that fight.
00:39:39.600 We won that battle that night.
00:39:41.560 But after the show, as we were leaving, we came at the doors.
00:39:46.680 And over on the side, there were some stairs.
00:39:48.880 And the skinheads were on the stairs, nursing their wounds.
00:39:52.420 And the guy in the T-shirt pointed at me.
00:39:55.980 And he said, we'll be back.
00:39:59.520 We'll be back.
00:40:01.520 And you know what, my friends?
00:40:03.740 They never really left.
00:40:05.200 I cannot recall it ever being this bad.
00:40:11.960 I cannot recall anti-Semitism being this bad in my lifetime.
00:40:17.600 As a lawyer, as a journalist, as a citizen, I have been fighting, exposing and opposing anti-Semitism and racism and bigotry.
00:40:30.360 And I've never seen it this bad.
00:40:31.980 And I've seen Jew hatred before.
00:40:34.080 I've been an Aryan Nations lunatic, jam a rifle in my chest, neo-Nazi skinheads before Emma was born.
00:40:41.260 Targeted our home in Ottawa for a firebombing.
00:40:45.940 So I had to have a cop living in my guest room for a few weeks with that one.
00:40:50.340 Death threat from a skinhead.
00:40:52.220 Wally was under police escort in the Ottawa courthouse going to testify against a white supremacist leader.
00:40:59.240 Got a threat in front of the police.
00:41:01.900 Ku Klux Klan leader gained access to her home in Vancouver, necessitating a rapid exit by Emma and her mom.
00:41:09.380 Death threats from followers of the Holocaust deniers, Zerd Zundel, David Irving.
00:41:16.700 Toronto anti-Semitic newspaper, loosely defined, called for me to be bludgeoned to death.
00:41:24.220 And bomb threats, death threats, all of that stuff.
00:41:27.620 And I've written books along the way about anti-Semitism and racism.
00:41:32.200 And I've got the new one coming out, The Hidden Hand.
00:41:35.120 And it's being published by Random House.
00:41:38.220 And it's coming out first.
00:41:40.220 I find this kind of weird.
00:41:41.260 It's coming out as an e-book first.
00:41:42.900 And then the physical book shortly thereafter in February.
00:41:46.840 So if you're interested in it, you can...
00:41:49.720 I put it up on my website, my social media, and you can find it there and pre-order it.
00:41:54.580 And that is the thing I wanted to talk to you about this morning.
00:41:57.240 In Canada, right here, schools for little kids, kids as young as four and five years old, Jewish kids, being sprayed with bullets more than once.
00:42:11.480 Synagogues and community centers and businesses being firebombed.
00:42:17.200 Their walls covered with swastikas and tributes to Hamas.
00:42:22.060 Jews being attacked in the streets for simply wearing symbols of their faith.
00:42:25.880 Imams speaking at rallies, calling for God to kill the Jews.
00:42:32.380 Jewish neighborhoods being targeted as they were in Toronto just this weekend.
00:42:37.340 Mobs screaming abuse.
00:42:39.640 Jews in the Jewish state being vilified by political parties in legislatures from coast to coast.
00:42:47.180 Union leaders, university professors promoting Hamas.
00:42:52.300 Campuses being occupied by anti-Semites.
00:42:55.880 All of those things have been happening here in Canada.
00:43:02.660 Not in Germany in 1939.
00:43:05.340 Here.
00:43:06.360 Now.
00:43:08.580 And similar crimes have been happening across Western democracy.
00:43:13.840 In towns big and small.
00:43:15.980 It is madness.
00:43:18.580 It's madness.
00:43:19.460 On the morning of October 7th, 2023, when most of us were not looking, when we had our guard down,
00:43:29.340 the beast of anti-Semitism got out of its cage, stronger than it had been in a century.
00:43:36.400 And the beast was back, slouching towards the present.
00:43:39.900 The beast immediately made up for lost time on two fronts.
00:43:46.360 First, it conjured up an orgy of murder and rape and torture orchestrated by monsters in the shape of men.
00:43:57.180 And that is how history will remember October 7th, 2023.
00:44:00.420 But simultaneously and everywhere, anti-Semitism exploded in plain view.
00:44:07.780 On computer screens, city streets, university campuses, everyday conversations.
00:44:13.680 With people we all know.
00:44:15.960 People we thought we knew.
00:44:18.520 The monster of Jew hatred was on our doorsteps looking for a way in.
00:44:23.200 And it found it.
00:44:26.400 It found a way in.
00:44:29.120 A global campaign of anti-Semitism and hate against Jews, the Jewish state, and Western civilization.
00:44:38.160 And that's what my book, The Hidden End, is about.
00:44:41.320 This propaganda war.
00:44:43.140 This information war against Jews and Israel and the West.
00:44:48.140 That's how Mondami won, I think, in New York City in the mayor's race.
00:44:53.200 The haters have gotten their act together.
00:44:56.380 We have to admit that.
00:44:58.120 We have to acknowledge that.
00:45:00.560 They've gotten more effective.
00:45:01.900 And as Jack was mentioning, I've led and I've worked on many political campaigns.
00:45:07.860 Including here in Nova Scotia.
00:45:09.640 I've done that for decades.
00:45:11.180 And along the way, I've learned about the strategies and tactics of the information war.
00:45:16.180 If you look at the pro-Hamas protests that have paralyzed cities across Canada and the United States and Europe since October 7th,
00:45:26.160 one important question is not asked nearly enough.
00:45:31.100 Which is this.
00:45:32.860 Is it all just a coincidence?
00:45:34.640 Is it all just a coincidence or was it planned?
00:45:38.940 How could Israel, so obviously the victim of a monstrous and terrible crime on October 7th,
00:45:46.420 how could Israel be transformed into a global pariah within a matter of hours?
00:45:53.560 Before Israel had even struck back at Hamas.
00:45:57.740 How?
00:45:58.140 There are two answers.
00:46:00.880 One, clearly, anti-Semitism is far worse and far more widespread than any of us had ever considered.
00:46:09.120 But number two, that anti-Semitic campaign has been assisted by a propaganda campaign of hatred,
00:46:17.220 the likes of which few of us have seen in our lifetimes.
00:46:20.000 The campaign against Jews and the Jewish state has been brilliantly designed and brilliantly executed
00:46:27.840 by evil, faceless men in Iran and Qatar and Gaza, and it is succeeding, unfortunately.
00:46:36.280 What is happening?
00:46:37.320 What we're seeing on our TV screens, our computer screens, it is not organic.
00:46:42.960 I assure you.
00:46:44.260 A campaign this global and effective and well-funded needs central coordination.
00:46:52.200 It needs an anti-Semitic Wizard of Oz.
00:46:55.880 It needs bodies like any political campaign.
00:46:58.800 It needs workers.
00:46:59.820 It needs organizers.
00:47:00.800 It needs money.
00:47:02.280 This one has all of that in abundance.
00:47:07.180 Anti-Israel groups have been paying people to protest.
00:47:11.320 They have been shutting down neighborhoods with military precision.
00:47:16.140 They have been using tested and segmented messaging aimed at specific demographic categories,
00:47:22.980 particularly young people, Gen Z and millennials,
00:47:26.020 on social media platforms that are lawless, like YouTube and TikTok and X and Meta.
00:47:33.280 Those social media platforms have been used in a coordinated campaign to deny the atrocities of October 7th,
00:47:42.100 right from the first hour, with a barrage of propaganda that spiked online in the hours after the 7th.
00:47:50.940 Those sophisticated grassroots campaigns then have been used to push countries like Canada
00:47:59.760 into abandoning trade and diplomatic relations with Israel, successfully in many places, too many places.
00:48:09.320 They've been winning campaigns for power, too, as they did in New York City last week.
00:48:14.200 All of those things, all of those things do not happen spontaneously.
00:48:21.120 They need a directing mind.
00:48:23.340 They need a hidden hand.
00:48:25.220 They need campaign managers.
00:48:27.220 They need someone to oversee what is a truly global campaign.
00:48:32.800 They've been winning that propaganda war.
00:48:36.280 But I think the ceasefire may change that.
00:48:39.000 For two years, I've been writing this book on the propaganda war,
00:48:44.180 and I've studied the people on the other side enough to know certain things about them.
00:48:48.520 For example, they don't actually love Palestine.
00:48:51.460 They just hate Israel.
00:48:52.960 They don't really love Palestinians.
00:48:55.220 They just hate Jews.
00:48:57.380 But they were pretty good at hiding that.
00:49:00.160 They were pretty good at hiding that.
00:49:01.520 And they fooled quite a few dumb people in the media, in government, in unions, academia, Gen Z, millennials.
00:49:11.880 But I know what campaigns look like.
00:49:15.300 I helped run Jean Chrétien's majority campaigns.
00:49:19.080 And this was a campaign.
00:49:22.140 And just like every campaign, it has this glossy, attractive exterior
00:49:26.160 that sometimes hides a darker and uglier objective at the center.
00:49:32.280 In their case, it was this.
00:49:36.020 Isolating, delegitimizing, and then eliminating the Jewish state.
00:49:42.660 Destabilizing Western democracy along the way, too.
00:49:46.120 Now, they'd slip occasionally.
00:49:47.940 They would lie about casualties, lie about famine, lie about Hamas and its true objectives
00:49:52.260 and Hezbollah and the Houthis and so on.
00:49:54.900 But most of the time, their campaign was very effective.
00:49:58.800 It was very efficient.
00:49:59.820 They didn't make a lot of mistakes.
00:50:01.560 And you can see the proof of that in public opinion research.
00:50:05.000 Across Western democracy, polls now show that too many people believe
00:50:10.560 that Israel is a genocidal, fascist, white supremacist state
00:50:15.900 bent on the utter destruction of a powerless, non-white minority like South Africa.
00:50:23.580 And so this global anti-Semitic campaign has been winning.
00:50:28.460 But I think, as I say, that may have changed with the ceasefire.
00:50:32.280 At that point, the curtain was pulled back on the Wizard of Oz.
00:50:36.440 We got to see who they really are.
00:50:39.140 Around the world, like ceasefire now protesters actually have a ceasefire in place.
00:50:46.520 They have gotten all of their demands met by Israel and then some.
00:50:52.120 But they didn't celebrate that.
00:50:54.160 They just kept on hating Israel.
00:50:56.160 And I think that's a mistake.
00:50:57.560 And they said nothing, literally nothing,
00:51:00.260 about the orgy of murder that Hamas unleashed on the Palestinian people,
00:51:06.160 on innocent Palestinian civilians, including children.
00:51:09.680 They said nothing about these people that they once professed to care about.
00:51:16.640 So the mass slipped.
00:51:19.060 Everybody got to see who they really are.
00:51:22.360 Everybody got to see that they are really just anti-Semites
00:51:25.660 who don't give a sweet damn about the Palestinian people.
00:51:30.140 That's who they are.
00:51:31.900 Now that they've revealed themselves, all of us, everybody here, JNF, friends of JNF,
00:51:37.520 we've all got a job to do.
00:51:40.180 My job has been writing this book and the documentary,
00:51:44.580 the trailer of which you've just seen, called The Campaign.
00:51:47.400 The book and the documentary talk about a similar subject,
00:51:52.500 which is the propaganda campaign.
00:51:54.640 But all of us have a job to do.
00:51:57.240 We need to tell everyone, our friends, our neighbours, the world,
00:52:00.960 to look and see who these people really are.
00:52:04.540 We need to shine a light on them and their true motivations.
00:52:08.480 We need to tell everyone that.
00:52:11.180 When the war ended, even when Hamas started to kill Palestinians,
00:52:17.120 the protesters kept attacking Jews and the Jewish state.
00:52:21.000 We need to tell that story.
00:52:24.880 And that will help defeat them.
00:52:27.500 When you shine a light on cockroaches, they will scatter.
00:52:31.320 So let's shine a light on them.
00:52:33.560 Let's expose them for who they really are.
00:52:36.900 Let's tell the truth about them
00:52:39.000 to stop them from telling lies about us.
00:52:42.720 Thank you.
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00:58:38.240 Don't look the way I do
00:58:45.240 Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't
00:58:49.240 Don't like your guys, don't need your lies, don't want your friendship
00:58:53.240 It's no surprise and I don't care who you think I'm down with
00:58:58.240 You, so, you're so fucked up too
00:59:02.240 You think it looks so cool but it looks like shit on you
00:59:06.240 I see my flow
00:59:09.240 That's why we left in you
00:59:13.240 That's why we left in you
00:59:17.240 That's why we left in you
00:59:21.240 And you
00:59:23.240 And you
00:59:27.240 That's why we left in you
00:59:36.240 Thank you.