kinsellacast - December 07, 2025


KINSELLACAST 391： Back from the U.K. - with E. and Caryma! Not Lilley! Plus Buzzcocks, Pete Shelley and Buzzcocks wannabes!


Episode Stats


Length

46 minutes

Words per minute

121.02388

Word count

5,650

Sentence count

292

Harmful content

Misogyny

7

sentences flagged

Toxicity

40

sentences flagged

Hate speech

34

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

This week on The Kinsella's Cast, Warren talks about his trip to see The Buzzcocks in tribute to the late singer Pete Shelley. He also talks about the time he met Princess Margaret at a place where she and Princess Margaret would have secret get-togethers, and why he thinks Nigel Farage doesn't rhyode with garbage.

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 It's the Kinsella Cast, starring Warren Kinsella.
00:00:30.000 It's the Kinsella Cast.
00:01:00.000 It's the Kinsella Cast.
00:01:29.980 It's the Kinsella Cast.
00:01:59.960 And, of course, living with a chef, you know, you find out all kinds of great things about food, which she knew.
00:02:05.720 Like, we had this lunch, a three-quarts lunch for eight pounds in a bookstore sitting beside the books.
00:02:13.860 So she's going to talk to you, actually, about all of that.
00:02:16.700 And we went to a place where Princess Margaret would hang out secretly.
00:02:21.860 And, of course, I got to see the Buzzcocks.
00:02:24.060 And so it's not the Pete Shelley Buzzcocks.
00:02:27.420 Pete died seven years ago this week.
00:02:29.880 He was the lead guy, the Buzzcocks.
00:02:34.280 And they carried on without him.
00:02:36.840 And I was against that.
00:02:38.420 It's kind of like the Stones without Charlie Watts.
00:02:40.600 It just seems wrong to me.
00:02:42.800 But they did.
00:02:44.340 And they were playing at the 100 Club on the first night there.
00:02:47.240 So we'd had zero sleep in two days.
00:02:49.120 But I decided I got to go.
00:02:51.000 It's the 100 Club.
00:02:52.520 And it was just great.
00:02:53.880 And there was one moment where Steve Diggle was playing Why Can't I Touch It, which is a song that he did back in the day.
00:03:04.140 And it actually got me a little verklempt, because I was surrounded by lots of guys like me in their 60s, gray hair, vinyl collectors.
00:03:15.080 It was great.
00:03:16.720 So I've got that.
00:03:17.620 I've got one of their biggest hits, What Do I Get?
00:03:19.940 And then I've got a band called The Hot Nasties from Calgary, Alberta, playing a song called I Am a Confused Teenager.
00:03:26.180 And as you listen to it, it was one of our hits, in quotation marks,
00:03:30.340 I think you'll see that we were profoundly influenced by the Buzzcocks.
00:03:35.920 We played lots of their songs when we did covers.
00:03:38.940 And we just loved them.
00:03:40.520 And because they believed that punk rock was punk rock, but it also should have melody.
00:03:45.480 And they had some amazing melodies.
00:03:47.900 And then at the back end, I've got Pete Shelley on the solo period.
00:03:53.860 After the Buzzcocks broke up in 81 or so, he did some stuff.
00:03:58.340 He came out as bisexual and did a lot of songs about that and had some major hits, talking about his bisexuality.
00:04:08.540 And then they reformed.
00:04:10.500 And that's when I hung out with them one fabled weekend.
00:04:15.100 They were opening for Pearl Jam, so I got to hang out with Pearl Jam.
00:04:19.100 Eddie Vedder was acting as, I wasn't acting, he was actually their roadie.
00:04:25.000 Anyway, it was just some great stories that I talk about in my book, Fury's Hour.
00:04:31.700 So we had a great time.
00:04:33.300 So I'm going to have to talk about all of that.
00:04:38.200 And then I've got Brian Lilly, hopefully.
00:04:41.680 Definitely got Karima Saad.
00:04:42.980 She and I have already spoken.
00:04:44.700 And some great music.
00:04:45.700 So I'm not going to belabor the podcast with a long monologue.
00:04:52.440 The one thing politically I was struck by, a big story that was happening when I was there, is Nigel Farage. 0.88
00:04:58.560 Doesn't rhyme with garbage, but it should. 0.59
00:05:00.920 He's the leader of Reform UK. 0.98
00:05:02.980 So he's the Trump of Britain.
00:05:05.960 And 30 of his schoolmates from this private school he went to in the late 70s, early 80s, came out and have been dropping a dime on this guy, saying what he said.
00:05:19.560 All these awful things he said back when he was a student.
00:05:23.720 Sampling Hitler was right. 0.99
00:05:26.080 Gas the Jews. 1.00
00:05:27.100 He'd make hissing sounds, like the concentration camp gas chambers. 0.99
00:05:33.960 He would call Southeast Asian pupils, wogs and packies. 0.85
00:05:38.160 He'd use the N-word. 0.94
00:05:39.720 He'd joke about gassing people into the shower as they crawl.
00:05:45.040 We'll gas all the N-word. 1.00
00:05:46.880 We'll gas all the Jews. 1.00
00:05:48.760 Come on, you lads. 1.00
00:05:50.240 Gas them all. 1.00
00:05:51.240 Anyway, he's a full-on piece of shit. 1.00
00:05:53.300 But as we've seen in the United States, being a piece of shit is not an impediment to winning in conservative politics these days. 1.00
00:06:01.780 So it'll be interesting to see if Brits shrug about that, as they did about the 2016 Access Hollywood tape for Trump. 1.00
00:06:10.340 You know, where he said, grab her by the pussy and you can get away with it. 1.00
00:06:13.460 Or if they're going to punish Farage for what he said. 1.00
00:06:18.160 Anyway, it was a great trip, great restaurants, great music.
00:06:23.580 So I'm with my buddy Lee Hill from Calgary.
00:06:26.320 It was a really good time.
00:06:27.820 And it's great to be back with all of you.
00:06:29.960 So welcome to the Kinsella Cast.
00:06:48.160 Kinsella Cast.
00:07:18.160 So why can't I touch it?
00:07:28.320 So why can't I touch it?
00:07:36.400 But then it looks so real, I can't see it.
00:07:50.560 And it feels so real, I can't feel it.
00:07:56.560 And it tastes so real, I can't taste it.
00:08:01.400 And it sounds so real, I can't hear it.
00:08:08.020 So why can't I touch it?
00:08:18.560 So why can't I touch it?
00:08:26.980 And it looks so real, I can't feel it.
00:08:52.140 And it feels so real, I can't taste it.
00:08:57.140 And it tastes so real, I can't hear it.
00:09:03.140 And it sounds so real, I can't see it.
00:09:09.140 So why can't I touch it?
00:09:14.140 So why can't I touch it?
00:09:18.140 So why can't I touch it?
00:09:24.140 So why can't I touch it?
00:09:25.140 So why can't I touch it?
00:09:27.140 So why can't I touch it?
00:09:29.140 So why can't I touch it?
00:09:30.140 So what can I touch it?
00:09:32.360 I can touch it.
00:09:33.380 I know it's ingred they have.
00:09:34.140 So why can't I touch it in the middle one?
00:09:35.520 It sounds so real, but it feels great.
00:09:38.460 And I can touch it.
00:09:40.200 Because they've got to touch it.
00:09:41.160 Thanks.
00:09:43.260 So why can I touch it through?
00:09:48.520 If I touch it or touch it.
00:09:51.040 You can touch it.
00:09:53.140 As it goes out.
00:09:54.080 Now it is so real
00:10:19.460 I can't see it
00:10:21.700 And it is so real
00:10:25.040 I can't feel it
00:10:27.380 And it is so real
00:10:30.700 I can't hear it
00:10:32.980 And it is so real
00:10:36.260 I can't feel it
00:10:39.440 So why
00:10:41.020 I can't touch it
00:10:47.080 So why
00:10:52.480 I can't touch it
00:10:58.420 So why
00:11:03.340 I can't touch it
00:11:13.760 We'll be right back.
00:11:43.760 We'll be right back.
00:12:13.760 We'll be right back.
00:12:43.760 We'll be right back.
00:13:02.760 And we're back at Heathrow Terminal No. 2.
00:13:08.260 And sitting beside me, just by great coincidence, without any planning whatsoever, is E, who, as it turns out, has also been in Britain for the past few days.
00:13:19.000 Welcome to Kinsella, Cal State.
00:13:21.220 First of all, we're in the Queen's Terminal.
00:13:22.820 I think that's important to note.
00:13:24.340 It's officially the Queen's Terminal.
00:13:25.560 And on a second to your other note, I just happen to be here.
00:13:30.940 We do not travel together.
00:13:32.700 We would kill each other. 0.99
00:13:34.080 Yes, we would. 0.66
00:13:34.740 One person who, I should be careful with the same way about killing in politics, but anyway, is not being killed in the polls, let's put it that way, is Nigel Farage.
00:13:47.740 Farage.
00:13:48.260 Who is the leader of, you know, which is a foreign-sounding name, that is Nigel, is the leader of Reform UK here.
00:13:56.680 He has been ahead in the polls by a significant amount, ahead of the governing Labour Party here in the United Kingdom, to the astonishment of many, including maybe Nigel.
00:14:08.420 But in the past few days, a scandal has emerged.
00:14:11.720 He was at a private school for boys called Dolwich in the late 70s and early 80s, and is, according to 30 of his schoolmates, not all of whom are Labour supporters,
00:14:24.900 said some extraordinary, awful things about Jews and Southeast Asians and many people.
00:14:32.280 Things like Hitler was right and joking about the gas chambers and using the N-word. 0.98
00:14:39.060 He's been unable to put this fire out.
00:14:41.740 It's raging.
00:14:42.660 It's starting to hurt him in the polls, and it made me think of the Axis Hollywood take. 0.80
00:14:47.760 You've read a bit about this controversy, this scandal.
00:14:52.300 Where do you think it's going to go, given what you know about politics these days?
00:14:55.840 Well, I mean, if using President Trump as any indication, you can kind of say anything and still get elected.
00:15:03.960 However, I would suggest that he is likely not going to continue this trend of polling as he is.
00:15:15.000 So you think he's going to become more unpopular?
00:15:17.680 Yeah, I think he'll become more unpopular. 0.75
00:15:19.900 I think the sad part is, is he will likely be chastised more for his ignorance and racism. 0.89
00:15:28.640 Chastised? 0.98
00:15:29.460 Chastised.
00:15:30.520 That means he's blameless.
00:15:32.820 What?
00:15:33.700 Chastised means somebody's being unfairly attacked.
00:15:37.460 Okay, so, not the correct word to use.
00:15:39.860 No, it's not.
00:15:40.780 He will be more so...
00:15:44.920 Maligned. 0.83
00:15:45.540 Maligned, sure. 0.61
00:15:46.600 Maligned. 0.83
00:15:47.040 Maligned for his, I guess, accused ignorance and racism than perhaps Trump was for his misogyny.
00:15:55.560 Okay, so let's talk about that.
00:15:56.860 You were around, well, Canada, and you were in the United States, I think, in 2016.
00:16:02.200 And you saw, like all of us did, the astonishing things that happened when the Access Hollywood tape came out. 1.00
00:16:08.520 Trump said women should be grabbed by the pussy, and he does that. 1.00
00:16:12.920 He got away with it. 1.00
00:16:13.680 He won the presidency.
00:16:14.620 Do you think people in Britain, given that you've been here for the past few days and talking to Brits, do you think that they're going to let Farage get away with it like the Americans did with Trump?
00:16:25.140 No, that's unlikely.
00:16:26.660 No, that's unlikely.
00:16:27.280 I think his comments were horrid, but they were more misogynistic, whereas Farage's comments are very much more racist.
00:16:40.900 And I think... 0.67
00:16:41.660 And anti-Semitic.
00:16:43.020 To a, you know, not that one is worse than the other, but people take racist comments potentially more seriously than they do misogynistic.
00:16:52.300 Because of Trump?
00:16:54.580 Um, no, I don't know that it's because of him. 1.00
00:16:56.920 Trump yesterday called Somalians, Somali-Americans, garbage. 1.00
00:17:01.840 Yes, that is very racist, obviously. 1.00
00:17:05.920 Um, I think to...
00:17:07.440 Again, I don't want to generalize, but I would suggest that most Brits, the ones that I actually know, but also in general conversation with them here, they do take the comments of their political leaders with a slight more seriousness than perhaps their American counterparts might.
00:17:26.120 Who might sort of pass them off as, oh, you know, he didn't really mean it, or perhaps.
00:17:33.400 By the way, this is the Kinsella cast.
00:17:34.860 So we welcome generalization as much as possible.
00:17:38.740 Um, so on that, uh, moving to a slightly happier topic.
00:17:42.580 I hope Farage gets richly what he deserves, but we shall see.
00:17:46.740 Um, what has been your experience this week?
00:17:49.000 What is your...
00:17:50.340 You haven't been here for a long time, I understand, but, uh, you've talked to lots of people, as you always do.
00:17:56.120 And sampled the foods, and whatnot.
00:17:59.740 What's your take?
00:18:00.800 What would you say to people asking about traveling to Britain these days?
00:18:05.400 Uh, well, yes, it has been a while since I've been here.
00:18:07.980 It's been almost 10 years.
00:18:09.300 Um, but I continue to love it here.
00:18:14.080 In fact, I would suggest this is probably the best, um, time that I've been here.
00:18:20.060 Um, I mean, on the superficial level, it was clean, and, you know.
00:18:26.120 The streets?
00:18:27.000 Yeah, the streets were clean.
00:18:28.780 Come on, you didn't see any garbage on the streets?
00:18:30.860 I mean, obviously there's always going to be some, but comparatively to some other larger cities.
00:18:35.080 Um, but I also saw a lot of people and robots, um, working to make sure that things were clean.
00:18:42.360 Um, people were lovely.
00:18:44.160 My kind of people, a little bit, you know, introvert, extroverts, which I kind of like, and people.
00:18:50.160 Um, I, again. 0.90
00:18:52.540 Did you see any silly walks? 0.94
00:18:54.940 No. 0.97
00:18:55.600 We did.
00:18:56.320 Remember we saw that guy in Hyde Park?
00:18:58.680 He was doing that.
00:18:59.440 And I think he was on a mission.
00:19:01.160 Um, but I very much enjoyed walking through the parks particularly.
00:19:05.280 I love the dogs off the leash.
00:19:07.540 Uh, again, from a superficial point of view, in terms of fashion, I really think the men
00:19:12.220 here know what they're doing.
00:19:13.880 Well, some men know what they're doing. 0.79
00:19:16.240 Um, I was really impressed, um, with the style, which I always do kind of look for when
00:19:20.840 I travel.
00:19:21.600 What about all the little kids on scooters wearing scarves and uniforms?
00:19:25.040 I mean, I'm very charmed by uniformed, um, school children.
00:19:29.900 I thought that was all lovely to see.
00:19:32.180 And just the, I think the, that I felt very safe as well.
00:19:36.220 I've traveled a lot by myself, um, for 30 years and, uh, felt very safe.
00:19:43.560 Used the tube almost exclusively, you know, six or seven times a day.
00:19:48.080 What was your impression of it?
00:19:49.440 Why did you feel safe there in the way that perhaps you wouldn't in Toronto?
00:19:52.820 It was so efficient.
00:19:54.440 I mean, I rarely waited, um, on the platform, um, getting to and from, um, the various platforms
00:20:02.000 was easy.
00:20:03.020 Everything was well laid out.
00:20:05.080 I mean, I used the assistance of, of the TFL app to help me, but even without that, if
00:20:10.480 I was going, um, you know, tech free, it was very easy to use, very easy to get around.
00:20:15.900 Uh, there were lots of people around to help if you needed it.
00:20:19.300 Were they polite?
00:20:20.420 Were they nice?
00:20:20.920 Everyone was polite and there was many opportunities to, um, uh, rate your experience.
00:20:27.760 There was buttons you could push to, um, to assess your experience there, but it just felt
00:20:32.460 safe.
00:20:32.720 I didn't feel that anybody was looking at me as a potential target.
00:20:40.340 Uh, and again, everything was just clean.
00:20:42.060 I didn't hesitate to sit on any of the trains, but I kid you not, there was a speck of garbage,
00:20:48.400 even in rush hour. 0.96
00:20:50.020 People, and I, I think that's partly the Brits themselves.
00:20:53.920 They're tidy and they're not just throwing their garbage and whatnot around and leaving
00:20:58.700 it for others to take care of.
00:21:00.600 I think there was, I think there's a certain respect level that's a little bit different
00:21:04.580 in terms of keeping their, um, open spaces and public spaces clean.
00:21:09.940 All right.
00:21:10.240 You're a chef and, uh, you know, quite a bit about food and places to eat and drink.
00:21:15.260 And that's one of the things people want your advice about when they come here, which they're
00:21:19.860 increasingly doing.
00:21:20.940 They're not going to the United States.
00:21:22.180 So where were some of the memorable meals that you had on this trip?
00:21:27.600 People who suggest that the British food scene is not good need to come here.
00:21:32.580 I mean, it has changed so much in the past 20 years, I'll say probably longer, but food
00:21:38.800 here is really good.
00:21:39.860 And they also think of every possible world cuisine you can think of here.
00:21:44.200 There is not a cuisine you cannot find in this city.
00:21:46.960 Having said that, we had some, overall, we had pretty good food while we were here.
00:21:52.300 We did some slightly more higher end pub food, but it was exceptional.
00:21:56.340 Name names.
00:21:57.800 Um, we did...
00:21:59.480 The George.
00:22:00.400 The George.
00:22:01.020 What'd you think of?
00:22:01.440 Which was lovely.
00:22:02.220 Very 1700s building.
00:22:05.640 Probably some of the best fish and chips I have, which is a remarkable feat.
00:22:09.660 It was a pub, was it not?
00:22:10.880 It was a pub, but it was a slightly more upscale pub, I would say.
00:22:14.660 But, uh, their menu was phenomenal.
00:22:18.480 And, uh, as far as fish and chips goes, it was great.
00:22:21.700 And also, I think it's a must that mushy peas must be served with fish.
00:22:25.760 Yes.
00:22:26.760 Uh, I ate all my friends in addition to mine.
00:22:29.420 Uh, we had a lovely experience at, um, a place that will forever be in my heart called
00:22:35.440 Books for Cooks.
00:22:36.500 And they have this little shop in the back that you queue for and possibly one of the
00:22:41.360 most, um, economic, economically sound, um, meals you can have here.
00:22:46.200 And that's in the Portobello Road?
00:22:48.220 Yeah.
00:22:48.460 It was in Notting Hill.
00:22:50.680 Um...
00:22:51.400 What about Maggie's?
00:22:52.360 Was it Maggie's Farm?
00:22:53.360 Maggie... 0.87
00:22:53.680 No, Maggie Jones.
00:22:54.800 So, lovely restaurant, neighborhood restaurant in Kensington, which is where we were staying.
00:22:59.800 Tell us the story of that place.
00:23:01.080 Um, so, kind of a special place, um, prior to being called Maggie Jones, it was called,
00:23:06.600 I believe it was called Nan's.
00:23:08.600 Um, and that is where, um, Princess Margaret and her partner used to canoodle and eat. 0.99
00:23:17.560 It was their little place.
00:23:18.240 Canoodle?
00:23:18.740 Canoodle. 0.98
00:23:19.340 Is that sex? 0.92
00:23:20.440 No. 0.97
00:23:21.240 It's a little bit of, it's a cuddly situation.
00:23:24.300 Um, so they would go and cuddle, canoodle, in one of the booths there.
00:23:29.740 And they could, kind of, go there without much fuss.
00:23:32.340 And it was, you know, very close to Kensington Palace.
00:23:35.840 And in the, I believe it was the 70s, um, new ownership came in.
00:23:40.360 And they named it in her honor because she used to book her table under the name Maggie Jones.
00:23:45.640 So now it's called Maggie Jones.
00:23:47.040 And sadly, they suffered a small fire last year.
00:23:50.080 And luckily, their reopening coincided with our visit.
00:23:53.320 And we got to go.
00:23:54.140 And we got the best seat, best table in the house.
00:23:57.080 And it was an exceptionally good classic British fare.
00:24:00.960 And for those of you who cringe at the idea, classic British fare is exceptional when done well.
00:24:06.340 They are so proud of their agriculture, um, their food waste here.
00:24:10.320 And they're, you know, they are really good at the farm-to-table thing in a non-pretentious way.
00:24:15.300 And we did well by that.
00:24:16.740 We did.
00:24:17.320 And we also had a bit of cheeky Nando's.
00:24:19.640 A bit of cheeky Nando's last night.
00:24:21.720 Just as, uh, it's our last night in.
00:24:23.200 It was good.
00:24:23.760 We were exhausted.
00:24:24.800 And, you know, Nando's, as far as a chain restaurant goes, they know what they're doing.
00:24:28.340 And it was a bit of cheeky fun.
00:24:30.220 And they had, the sides are wick at me with Nando's, actually.
00:24:33.340 And we did that in Earl's Court.
00:24:35.400 And, uh, so all of those places that E recommends, I too recommend because I'm an expert on food and meals, of course.
00:24:42.180 Oh, and we did do a, we did do a high tea.
00:24:44.380 You have to do a high tea here.
00:24:45.500 And you don't have to spend an arm and a leg.
00:24:47.640 I mean, obviously going to Claridge's or the Ritz or Harrods is amazing, but they are quite pricey.
00:24:54.640 But a really special one, um, is, you know, do a nice little hour-long walk around Kensington Gardens, around the pond.
00:25:01.640 And then you can go to the Orangery, which, um, has been there for a very long time.
00:25:06.880 It's a beautiful building.
00:25:07.620 And you can get a slightly less expensive, but very high quality, very filling, very beautiful high tea.
00:25:13.440 And a beautiful view of Princess Diana's, what is it, her pool, or?
00:25:17.200 Yeah, I think it's her, it's her memorial garden and pool and walkway.
00:25:21.920 The whole thing was beautiful.
00:25:23.920 Very quiet, very elegant.
00:25:25.660 And we walked around and we saw lots of coots.
00:25:27.940 You know, coots just don't exist in your memory of school.
00:25:31.380 Like, coots actually are birds, and I rather like the coots.
00:25:34.940 So, um, we're going to have to board soon.
00:25:37.380 So, I just want to, did you want to canoodle with me at this time?
00:25:41.440 I mean, we're sitting pretty close together, as it is.
00:25:44.560 All right, we're going to canoodle here at Heathrow.
00:25:46.520 So, thank you to E for this week and for her insights on her trip to the UK.
00:25:52.540 Okay, and we'll see you folks on the other side of the pond.
00:26:02.100 I just want to love her like any other.
00:26:05.040 What do I get?
00:26:07.620 I only want to vent and stay to the end.
00:26:10.280 What do I get?
00:26:12.720 What do I get?
00:26:14.540 Oh, what do I get?
00:26:18.180 What do I get?
00:26:20.000 Oh, what do I get?
00:26:23.920 I'm in distress.
00:26:25.560 I need to coves. 0.74
00:26:26.700 What do I get?
00:26:29.620 I'm not the maker.
00:26:30.900 I just need a break.
00:26:32.180 What do I get?
00:26:34.560 What do I get?
00:26:36.340 Oh, what do I get?
00:26:40.280 What do I get?
00:26:41.860 Oh, what do I get?
00:26:46.100 I only guess it was nice.
00:26:49.020 A long hit in my heart.
00:26:51.020 Then, the interest in the tunnel drives.
00:26:54.500 I wish that I would have been true instead.
00:26:56.860 What do I get?
00:26:58.380 Oh, what do I get?
00:27:02.180 What do I get?
00:27:03.880 Oh, what do I get?
00:27:07.640 Ah.
00:27:10.280 I only guess it was nice.
00:27:32.600 So lonely in my heart, too bad
00:27:35.220 This is the time I ride
00:27:37.960 I wish it only happened to me instead
00:27:40.460 What do I get?
00:27:42.080 Oh, what do I get?
00:27:45.640 What do I get?
00:27:47.420 Oh, what do I get?
00:27:51.260 I just wanna love you like any other
00:27:54.220 What do I get?
00:27:56.780 I only wanna put my love to the end
00:27:59.600 What do I get?
00:28:01.680 What do I get?
00:28:03.880 Oh, what do I get?
00:28:07.460 What do I get?
00:28:09.280 Oh, what do I get?
00:28:12.400 Well, let me tell you now
00:28:13.940 What do I get?
00:28:20.980 What do I get?
00:28:23.560 What do I get?
00:28:25.280 No love
00:28:26.120 What do I get?
00:28:27.920 No sleep at night
00:28:29.200 What do I get?
00:28:30.480 Nothing that's nice
00:28:31.980 What I get
00:28:33.160 Nothing at all
00:28:34.480 At all
00:28:34.980 At all
00:28:35.480 At all
00:28:36.020 At all
00:28:36.480 At all
00:28:37.080 At all
00:28:37.400 And we're back
00:28:44.280 And hopefully
00:28:45.540 We're back
00:28:46.580 Because this is the second attempt
00:28:49.660 Of recording this
00:28:50.560 And I don't know what I did
00:28:51.740 I screwed it up
00:28:52.460 But Karima said
00:28:53.840 I am so sorry for doing that
00:28:55.300 So thank you for coming back on
00:28:57.340 That is no problem
00:28:58.200 All right
00:28:58.860 So you're at
00:28:59.620 You're at a political location
00:29:02.060 At the moment
00:29:02.520 Where are you right now?
00:29:03.480 What are you doing?
00:29:04.020 Well I am at the Adath Israel
00:29:08.080 Congregation synagogue
00:29:09.880 Where Pierre Polyev is scheduled
00:29:12.340 To give a speech
00:29:14.160 So I'm in the front row
00:29:16.280 Waiting to hear what he has to say
00:29:18.480 So what
00:29:19.700 What do you think about
00:29:21.320 As a voter
00:29:22.060 And a citizen
00:29:22.820 And as somebody who's engaged
00:29:23.860 With public affairs
00:29:24.640 What do you think about
00:29:26.080 Pierre's prospects
00:29:27.080 These days?
00:29:28.220 His party is doing okay
00:29:30.160 In polling
00:29:30.840 Against the Liberal Party
00:29:32.100 But when Pierre's name
00:29:33.880 Gets added to the mix
00:29:35.080 They drop precipitously
00:29:36.560 Women and young people
00:29:37.780 And Quebecers 0.98
00:29:38.320 Don't seem to like him very much
00:29:39.600 What's your take on his future?
00:29:41.300 You know
00:29:43.760 It's sickle
00:29:45.860 And I think there was
00:29:47.540 A moment
00:29:48.500 Where he was at
00:29:50.180 Kind of a height
00:29:51.180 In popularity
00:29:52.020 And his
00:29:53.560 Style was really
00:29:55.480 Resonating
00:29:56.440 With people
00:29:57.580 And perhaps
00:29:58.960 That moment
00:29:59.680 Has
00:30:00.680 Has passed
00:30:01.640 Does that mean
00:30:03.300 He's beyond his
00:30:04.360 Expiration date?
00:30:05.640 Not necessarily
00:30:06.780 Particularly
00:30:07.700 If he's able to
00:30:09.300 Either pivot
00:30:11.240 Into something
00:30:12.040 That's more
00:30:12.740 Palatable
00:30:13.640 Or stay the course
00:30:15.260 And bring people
00:30:17.200 Back
00:30:17.660 Into
00:30:18.740 What it is
00:30:19.960 He
00:30:20.360 Is selling
00:30:21.700 But yeah
00:30:23.580 As it stands
00:30:24.220 Right now
00:30:24.820 You know
00:30:25.560 There are
00:30:26.180 Staunch supporters
00:30:27.760 Who seem to have
00:30:29.520 Soured a little bit
00:30:30.740 And there are others
00:30:32.580 Who maintain
00:30:33.920 Their loyalty
00:30:34.800 Including some of his
00:30:36.180 Star
00:30:38.760 MPs
00:30:40.300 Right?
00:30:40.540 So it's
00:30:42.040 All this to say
00:30:42.960 I don't know
00:30:43.620 I don't know
00:30:44.700 Whether he
00:30:45.320 Survived the leadership
00:30:46.780 Race
00:30:47.320 You know
00:30:49.020 He
00:30:49.300 Has certainly
00:30:50.760 Done
00:30:53.080 A lot
00:30:53.880 I think
00:30:54.320 To
00:30:54.880 Boost the
00:30:56.820 Conservatives
00:30:57.420 To where they're
00:30:58.120 At right now
00:30:58.880 But
00:30:59.780 Is this
00:31:00.880 Sort of
00:31:01.180 His
00:31:01.480 Feeling
00:31:03.500 And
00:31:04.160 He needs
00:31:04.700 To
00:31:04.920 Hand over
00:31:05.920 The baton
00:31:06.560 Maybe
00:31:07.220 To whom
00:31:08.200 That's another
00:31:08.800 Question
00:31:09.260 That is
00:31:10.520 Open for discussion
00:31:12.440 Well it'll be
00:31:13.140 Interesting to see
00:31:14.040 What kind of
00:31:15.320 Reaction he gets
00:31:16.100 At the event
00:31:16.660 That you're at
00:31:17.960 And so we can
00:31:19.220 Talk about that
00:31:19.740 Next week
00:31:20.200 One
00:31:21.200 Another leader
00:31:22.420 A former leader
00:31:23.240 Is this also
00:31:24.800 In the news today
00:31:25.700 Mr. Trudeau
00:31:27.200 Is dating
00:31:28.180 And I guess
00:31:28.760 Officially
00:31:29.320 Its significant
00:31:30.060 Other
00:31:30.340 Is Katy Perry
00:31:31.180 The pop star
00:31:32.000 And there's
00:31:33.380 Lots of
00:31:33.800 Fetching photos
00:31:34.760 Of them
00:31:35.120 In the media
00:31:35.680 And of course
00:31:36.700 Everybody's saying
00:31:37.480 Oh this is not
00:31:38.100 Important
00:31:38.540 And we shouldn't
00:31:39.400 Be talking about
00:31:39.900 These things
00:31:40.340 But here
00:31:41.140 You and I
00:31:41.760 Are talking
00:31:42.560 About these
00:31:43.020 Things
00:31:43.340 I think
00:31:44.520 It's kind of
00:31:45.160 Harmless
00:31:45.720 And I'm no
00:31:46.180 Fan of Mr. Trudeau
00:31:47.640 When he was
00:31:48.500 Prime Minister
00:31:49.140 But I think
00:31:49.640 I'm kind of like
00:31:51.140 Well it's his life
00:31:52.020 And it's her life
00:31:52.780 And who cares
00:31:53.440 And let them
00:31:54.120 Be happy
00:31:54.800 It's okay
00:31:55.660 By me
00:31:56.080 What do you
00:31:56.860 Think about
00:31:57.340 All of this
00:31:58.040 Bread and
00:31:58.860 Circus
00:31:59.220 Is stuff
00:31:59.760 About Katie
00:32:00.760 And Justin
00:32:01.340 I'm perhaps
00:32:03.540 A little bit
00:32:04.120 Cynical
00:32:04.560 Where I think
00:32:05.960 That they
00:32:07.020 Are both
00:32:07.620 Benefiting
00:32:09.060 From the
00:32:10.100 PR
00:32:10.540 That comes
00:32:11.660 Along with
00:32:12.420 A new
00:32:13.340 Happy
00:32:13.760 Shiny
00:32:14.300 Smiley
00:32:15.140 Relationship
00:32:16.300 Particularly
00:32:17.460 You know
00:32:18.300 Trudeau
00:32:18.860 Post-divorce
00:32:20.320 Post-resignation
00:32:21.620 Katy Perry
00:32:22.720 Has also
00:32:23.240 Just come out
00:32:24.060 Of a marriage
00:32:25.100 And a tour
00:32:27.080 That I don't
00:32:27.760 Think
00:32:28.100 Quite hit
00:32:29.080 The level
00:32:29.560 She was
00:32:30.160 Hoping for
00:32:30.980 And that
00:32:31.520 Weird
00:32:31.780 Astronaut
00:32:32.520 Stunt
00:32:33.120 So good
00:32:34.760 For them
00:32:35.320 Right
00:32:35.740 Good for them
00:32:36.240 If they're
00:32:36.520 Happy
00:32:36.880 And you know
00:32:38.460 If this is all
00:32:39.120 Just a show
00:32:39.600 For the cameras
00:32:40.360 I think that
00:32:41.180 It's relatively
00:32:42.800 Effective
00:32:44.060 Up to this point
00:32:45.260 It is kind of
00:32:46.420 Junk food
00:32:46.940 Right
00:32:47.400 It's not
00:32:47.960 The broccoli
00:32:49.740 Or the meat
00:32:50.280 And potatoes
00:32:50.820 People like
00:32:52.640 Junk food
00:32:53.100 So what can you do
00:32:53.980 I like broccoli
00:32:55.420 Too
00:32:55.700 So are you
00:32:56.540 A broccoli
00:32:56.920 Fan
00:32:57.200 Yeah I love
00:32:59.460 Broccoli
00:32:59.840 Yeah I like
00:33:00.720 How about spinach
00:33:03.180 Do you like
00:33:03.640 Do you like
00:33:04.140 Spinach
00:33:04.560 Yeah I'm partial
00:33:07.500 To spinach
00:33:08.080 I would pick
00:33:08.840 Broccoli over
00:33:09.520 Spinach
00:33:10.000 But
00:33:10.260 Key question
00:33:11.660 I live with
00:33:12.240 A chef
00:33:12.620 So forgive me
00:33:13.700 Brussels
00:33:15.660 Spouts
00:33:16.260 Yeah I'm
00:33:18.340 I
00:33:18.640 Listen I'm an
00:33:19.840 Eater
00:33:20.080 I don't know
00:33:20.900 If you've seen
00:33:21.360 Any of my
00:33:21.840 City
00:33:22.000 I'm an
00:33:22.360 Eater
00:33:22.580 So I
00:33:23.820 Don't
00:33:24.240 Discriminate
00:33:24.820 Really against
00:33:25.440 The leafy
00:33:25.900 Greens
00:33:26.460 I'll leave
00:33:27.380 Them all
00:33:27.680 All right
00:33:29.020 Well this is
00:33:29.400 The most
00:33:29.680 Important
00:33:30.040 Segment
00:33:30.360 I guarantee
00:33:30.920 You this
00:33:31.320 Is the
00:33:31.540 Part of
00:33:32.340 Our
00:33:32.520 Discussion
00:33:33.000 That will
00:33:33.320 Elicit the
00:33:33.900 Greatest
00:33:34.240 Number of
00:33:34.700 Comments
00:33:35.140 However
00:33:36.040 However
00:33:36.980 To steer
00:33:37.580 It back
00:33:37.960 To serious
00:33:38.560 Stuff
00:33:38.940 The liberals
00:33:40.340 Made a
00:33:40.960 Promise
00:33:41.220 During the
00:33:41.580 Election
00:33:41.820 Campaign
00:33:42.240 As you
00:33:43.000 And I
00:33:43.240 Know
00:33:43.440 Because you
00:33:43.880 And I
00:33:44.120 Pay attention
00:33:44.860 To hate
00:33:45.440 And the
00:33:46.440 Law
00:33:46.780 And the
00:33:47.220 Interface
00:33:47.740 Between
00:33:48.080 Those two
00:33:48.520 Things
00:33:48.860 And a
00:33:50.420 Whole package
00:33:51.360 Of changes
00:33:52.500 To deal
00:33:53.580 With an
00:33:54.160 Explosion
00:33:54.700 Of hate
00:33:55.240 That all
00:33:56.900 Of us
00:33:57.180 Have seen
00:33:57.560 On Canadian
00:33:58.100 Streets
00:33:58.640 And online
00:33:59.280 In the
00:33:59.940 Past few
00:34:00.960 Years
00:34:01.380 And one
00:34:02.500 Of the
00:34:02.680 Things they
00:34:03.000 Want to
00:34:03.220 Do is
00:34:03.460 Eliminate
00:34:03.920 A religious 0.99
00:34:04.780 Exemption
00:34:05.400 Both Muslim
00:34:07.020 Leaders and
00:34:07.460 Jewish leaders
00:34:07.980 Want to keep
00:34:08.620 The religious
00:34:09.160 Exemption
00:34:09.720 In there
00:34:10.700 So there
00:34:11.140 Can be
00:34:11.420 Bonafide
00:34:11.980 Discussions
00:34:12.580 About religion
00:34:13.360 That don't
00:34:14.220 Result in
00:34:14.780 Somebody being
00:34:15.340 Hulled off
00:34:15.780 To jail
00:34:16.280 The Bloc 0.97
00:34:17.780 Quebecois
00:34:18.520 Wants to
00:34:19.140 Remove
00:34:19.760 That exemption
00:34:20.980 So a bit
00:34:21.920 Of a fracas
00:34:22.620 Taking place
00:34:23.480 In Ottawa
00:34:24.260 As we lead
00:34:25.400 Into the
00:34:25.740 Holidays
00:34:26.040 What's your
00:34:26.400 Take on
00:34:26.860 This legislation
00:34:27.720 And what the
00:34:28.680 Bloc and the 0.98
00:34:29.280 Religious leaders
00:34:29.980 Are saying
00:34:30.480 I'm of the
00:34:33.140 View that we
00:34:33.720 Should scrap
00:34:34.320 Bill C9
00:34:35.220 Entirely
00:34:35.920 I think that
00:34:37.180 It stands to
00:34:38.000 Cause more
00:34:39.240 Harm than
00:34:39.880 Good
00:34:40.180 I have no
00:34:41.380 Confidence
00:34:41.960 In our
00:34:43.260 Federal
00:34:43.920 Government
00:34:44.480 Or frankly
00:34:46.500 In law
00:34:47.740 Enforcement
00:34:48.220 To deal
00:34:50.360 With hate
00:34:50.980 In a
00:34:51.900 Sensible
00:34:52.300 Nuance
00:34:53.540 Measured
00:34:54.260 Fair way
00:34:54.900 Particularly
00:34:56.260 When we're
00:34:57.800 Not even
00:34:58.280 Handling
00:34:58.940 Kind of
00:34:59.620 Basic crimes
00:35:00.580 Appropriately
00:35:01.880 So I think
00:35:04.720 We already
00:35:05.300 Have an
00:35:06.440 Existing
00:35:06.980 Toolkit
00:35:07.600 That can
00:35:08.280 Be used
00:35:08.900 In the
00:35:09.580 Criminal
00:35:09.840 Code
00:35:10.260 To deal
00:35:11.260 With
00:35:11.740 Instances
00:35:12.580 Of hate
00:35:13.840 And particularly
00:35:15.000 Instances
00:35:15.880 Of actual
00:35:17.600 Unlawful
00:35:18.180 Behaviour
00:35:18.860 At protests
00:35:19.820 Some of
00:35:20.780 The criticism
00:35:21.360 To bill
00:35:22.200 Nine
00:35:22.520 Is that
00:35:23.000 It risks
00:35:24.360 Criminalizing
00:35:25.380 Peaceful
00:35:26.160 Protests
00:35:26.720 I think
00:35:27.100 There is
00:35:27.620 Some truth
00:35:28.980 To that
00:35:29.580 But I
00:35:30.580 Also think
00:35:31.260 That
00:35:31.700 Some of
00:35:32.920 The organizations
00:35:33.740 Raising
00:35:34.900 These criticisms
00:35:35.620 Are
00:35:36.360 Either
00:35:38.140 Willfully
00:35:39.860 Or
00:35:40.200 Recklessly
00:35:41.360 Blind 0.95
00:35:41.800 To
00:35:42.660 What's
00:35:43.560 Actually
00:35:43.940 Playing out
00:35:44.700 On our
00:35:45.440 Streets
00:35:45.920 So
00:35:47.280 You know
00:35:47.880 I
00:35:48.240 I'm of
00:35:49.200 The view
00:35:49.480 That we
00:35:49.720 Don't need
00:35:50.140 New laws
00:35:50.780 Particularly
00:35:51.880 Not laws
00:35:52.860 That stand
00:35:53.380 To
00:35:53.880 Incur
00:35:55.620 On
00:35:56.080 Civil rights
00:35:56.900 Or give
00:35:57.400 Police
00:35:57.940 More power
00:35:59.120 We don't
00:35:59.780 Need any
00:36:00.080 Of that
00:36:00.500 We just
00:36:01.260 Need to
00:36:01.600 Enforce
00:36:02.020 The existing
00:36:03.080 Criminal
00:36:03.440 Code
00:36:03.760 What do
00:36:04.540 You say
00:36:04.960 Playing devil's
00:36:05.720 Advocate
00:36:06.480 To those
00:36:07.040 Who say
00:36:07.340 Well yeah
00:36:07.700 Sure
00:36:08.000 We've got
00:36:08.660 Laws
00:36:09.180 In the
00:36:09.400 Books
00:36:09.760 But the
00:36:10.600 Ones
00:36:11.040 For willful
00:36:11.800 Promotion
00:36:12.520 Of hatred
00:36:13.220 Against
00:36:14.220 Identifiable
00:36:14.860 Group
00:36:15.200 A will
00:36:15.520 For promotion
00:36:16.200 Of genocide
00:36:16.840 Which are
00:36:17.560 You know
00:36:18.100 The two
00:36:18.740 Sections
00:36:19.260 That the
00:36:19.740 Police and
00:36:20.180 Prosecutors
00:36:20.820 Say they
00:36:21.740 Want to
00:36:22.160 Use
00:36:22.460 Those
00:36:23.160 Sections
00:36:23.720 Unlike other
00:36:24.460 Sections
00:36:25.180 In the
00:36:25.420 Code
00:36:25.600 Require
00:36:26.180 The
00:36:26.420 Permission
00:36:26.960 Of the
00:36:27.880 Province's
00:36:28.760 Attorney
00:36:29.100 General
00:36:29.580 Before the
00:36:30.100 Charges
00:36:30.460 Can be
00:36:30.760 Laid
00:36:31.020 Do you
00:36:31.700 Think
00:36:32.000 That
00:36:32.380 That's
00:36:32.980 The way
00:36:33.400 Things
00:36:33.760 Should
00:36:34.000 Stay
00:36:34.340 The
00:36:34.560 Liberals
00:36:34.880 Are
00:36:35.020 Saying
00:36:35.220 They
00:36:35.380 Want to
00:36:35.660 Eliminate
00:36:36.100 That
00:36:36.280 Requirement
00:36:36.880 What do
00:36:37.440 You think
00:36:37.720 About
00:36:37.920 That
00:36:38.200 So I
00:36:40.080 Don't
00:36:40.280 Have
00:36:40.580 Statistics
00:36:41.100 On
00:36:41.760 How many
00:36:42.480 Cases
00:36:43.640 Are
00:36:44.100 Police
00:36:44.520 Bringing
00:36:44.920 Forward
00:36:45.520 To the
00:36:46.320 Attorney
00:36:46.620 General
00:36:47.040 That
00:36:47.420 Are
00:36:47.640 Being
00:36:48.680 Denied
00:36:49.420 For
00:36:49.660 Example
00:36:50.160 Right
00:36:50.400 Is 0.88
00:36:50.620 That
00:36:50.800 Actually
00:36:51.360 A
00:36:52.200 Problem
00:36:52.580 Or
00:36:53.820 Are
00:36:54.160 We
00:36:54.480 Proposing
00:36:55.480 A
00:36:55.620 Solution
00:36:56.000 To
00:36:56.220 Something
00:36:56.560 That
00:36:57.380 Is 0.88
00:36:57.720 A
00:36:57.840 Non
00:36:58.080 Issue
00:36:58.620 From
00:37:00.120 From
00:37:00.140 My
00:37:00.740 Experience
00:37:01.440 Police
00:37:03.080 Aren't
00:37:03.400 Necessarily
00:37:04.040 Equipped
00:37:04.980 To
00:37:05.380 Actually
00:37:05.960 Make
00:37:07.060 That
00:37:07.900 Judgment
00:37:08.380 Call
00:37:08.820 On
00:37:09.100 Their
00:37:09.300 Own
00:37:09.660 Without
00:37:10.300 Any
00:37:10.680 Sort
00:37:10.980 Of
00:37:11.100 Safeguard 0.61
00:37:11.560 And
00:37:12.620 That
00:37:12.780 Is 0.88
00:37:12.920 Precisely
00:37:13.440 What
00:37:13.620 This
00:37:13.820 Is 0.88
00:37:14.080 Right
00:37:14.260 It
00:37:14.400 Is 0.88
00:37:14.460 A
00:37:14.560 Safeguard 0.61
00:37:15.180 To
00:37:15.960 Ensure
00:37:16.360 That
00:37:16.680 This
00:37:18.380 Power
00:37:18.740 Isn't
00:37:19.180 Being
00:37:19.620 Abused
00:37:21.460 And
00:37:22.480 It's
00:37:22.720 Not
00:37:22.820 To
00:37:22.960 Say
00:37:23.100 That
00:37:23.280 Police
00:37:23.660 Would
00:37:23.980 Necessarily
00:37:25.160 Go
00:37:25.460 Down
00:37:25.820 The
00:37:26.000 Path
00:37:26.540 Of
00:37:27.040 Abusing
00:37:28.000 That
00:37:28.600 Power
00:37:29.040 But
00:37:29.460 I
00:37:30.780 Always
00:37:31.160 You
00:37:31.460 Know
00:37:31.620 Take
00:37:32.060 A
00:37:32.480 View
00:37:32.740 Of
00:37:33.000 How
00:37:33.480 Can
00:37:33.820 A
00:37:34.080 Law
00:37:34.320 Be
00:37:34.680 Misused
00:37:35.920 Whatever
00:37:36.720 The
00:37:37.660 Intentions
00:37:38.260 Behind
00:37:38.720 It
00:37:39.060 May
00:37:39.800 Be
00:37:40.080 Right
00:37:40.400 So
00:37:41.300 That's
00:37:42.760 My
00:37:43.040 Take
00:37:43.720 On
00:37:43.940 It
00:37:44.060 Are
00:37:45.020 We
00:37:45.220 Even
00:37:45.580 Addressing
00:37:46.500 A
00:37:46.700 Real
00:37:46.880 Problem
00:37:47.260 Or
00:37:47.680 Is 0.88
00:37:47.920 Just
00:37:48.640 Something
00:37:48.980 That
00:37:49.360 Sounds
00:37:49.700 Good
00:37:50.000 And
00:37:50.160 Oh
00:37:50.320 Good
00:37:50.500 We
00:37:50.660 Can
00:37:50.820 Fast
00:37:51.140 Track
00:37:51.460 But
00:37:51.920 Does
00:37:52.440 It
00:37:52.840 Need
00:37:52.980 To
00:37:53.100 Be
00:37:53.220 Fast
00:37:53.500 Tracked
00:37:53.840 And
00:37:54.120 Are
00:37:54.620 We
00:37:54.920 Able
00:37:55.960 To
00:37:56.240 Reasonably
00:37:56.920 Do
00:37:57.140 Do
00:37:57.260 We
00:37:57.440 Trust
00:37:57.780 The
00:37:58.040 Police
00:37:58.420 To
00:37:59.060 Have
00:37:59.520 That
00:37:59.720 Entirely
00:38:00.260 In
00:38:00.420 Their
00:38:00.560 Purview
00:38:01.020 And
00:38:02.100 For
00:38:02.380 Me
00:38:02.520 I
00:38:02.660 Say
00:38:02.800 No
00:38:03.020 So
00:38:04.060 Just
00:38:04.320 Touching
00:38:04.640 On
00:38:04.760 That
00:38:04.920 Final
00:38:05.240 Question
00:38:05.720 To
00:38:06.380 Use
00:38:06.600 Your
00:38:06.760 Words
00:38:07.020 The
00:38:07.200 Real
00:38:07.400 Problem
00:38:07.920 I
00:38:08.880 Just
00:38:09.040 Got
00:38:09.180 Back
00:38:09.360 From
00:38:09.540 Britain
00:38:09.800 As
00:38:10.060 I
00:38:10.220 Was
00:38:10.400 Telling
00:38:11.020 You
00:38:11.160 Before
00:38:11.580 The
00:38:11.800 Show
00:38:12.160 You
00:38:13.560 Know
00:38:13.640 I
00:38:13.760 Was
00:38:13.900 On
00:38:14.060 Lookout
00:38:14.400 For
00:38:14.580 A
00:38:14.720 I
00:38:21.140 I
00:38:21.360 Was
00:38:21.500 Looking
00:38:21.720 For
00:38:23.020 The
00:38:23.620 Type
00:38:23.880 Of
00:38:24.000 Thing
00:38:24.200 That
00:38:24.400 You
00:38:25.080 And
00:38:25.820 I
00:38:26.060 Have
00:38:26.220 Seen
00:38:26.400 So
00:38:26.600 Much
00:38:26.820 Of
00:38:26.980 In
00:38:27.140 Canada
00:38:27.580 Didn't
00:38:28.220 See
00:38:28.400 Anything
00:38:28.780 Really
00:38:29.160 Kind
00:38:29.700 Of
00:38:29.780 An
00:38:29.920 Absence
00:38:30.540 Of
00:38:30.720 Anger
00:38:31.120 And
00:38:31.940 Got
00:38:32.200 Me
00:38:32.340 Wondering
00:38:32.760 Like
00:38:33.040 Are
00:38:33.180 We
00:38:33.360 Have
00:38:33.560 We
00:38:33.680 Become
00:38:34.020 An
00:38:34.240 Angrier
00:38:35.080 Country
00:38:35.740 In
00:38:36.180 The
00:38:36.300 Past
00:38:36.600 Little
00:38:36.840 While
00:38:37.180 Or
00:38:37.480 Is 0.88
00:38:37.660 It
00:38:37.860 You
00:38:38.480 Know
00:38:38.600 Is 0.88
00:38:38.800 My
00:38:38.960 View
00:38:39.260 Of
00:38:39.440 It
00:38:39.560 All
00:38:39.740 Distorted
00:38:40.320 Um
00:38:42.440 I
00:38:43.400 Feel
00:38:43.980 Like
00:38:44.300 There
00:38:44.540 Is 0.88
00:38:44.780 An
00:38:44.900 Anger
00:38:45.320 That
00:38:46.040 Has
00:38:46.320 Surged
00:38:46.880 Over
00:38:47.660 Recent
00:38:48.200 Years
00:38:48.620 And
00:38:50.280 I
00:38:50.360 Will
00:38:50.500 Say
00:38:50.660 I
00:38:50.720 Surprised
00:38:51.220 To
00:38:51.400 Hear
00:38:51.580 That
00:38:51.780 That
00:38:52.000 Was
00:38:52.360 The
00:38:52.920 Experience
00:38:53.500 Your
00:38:54.220 Experience
00:38:54.660 In
00:38:54.800 The
00:38:54.900 UK
00:38:55.180 And
00:38:55.900 A
00:38:56.260 Reminder
00:38:56.700 That
00:38:56.960 Social
00:38:57.260 Media
00:38:57.660 Is 0.88
00:38:59.220 You
00:38:59.500 Know
00:38:59.640 Will
00:39:00.200 Feed
00:39:00.520 Us
00:39:00.800 What
00:39:00.980 The
00:39:01.140 Algorithm
00:39:01.700 Thinks
00:39:02.060 We
00:39:02.220 Want
00:39:02.460 To
00:39:02.640 See
00:39:02.940 Because
00:39:03.700 If
00:39:03.920 You
00:39:04.220 Go
00:39:04.380 By
00:39:04.760 Post
00:39:05.660 On
00:39:05.960 X
00:39:06.340 The
00:39:07.040 UK
00:39:07.300 Is 0.88
00:39:07.920 A
00:39:08.060 Hell
00:39:08.240 Hole
00:39:08.480 And
00:39:09.820 You
00:39:10.380 Know
00:39:10.520 So
00:39:10.880 There
00:39:11.500 Is 0.88
00:39:11.620 That
00:39:11.980 I
00:39:13.300 Think
00:39:13.640 That
00:39:14.280 Sort
00:39:15.320 Of
00:39:15.440 Protest
00:39:16.280 The
00:39:16.540 Protest
00:39:17.080 Circuit
00:39:17.600 In
00:39:17.960 Canada
00:39:18.340 Is 0.88
00:39:19.860 About
00:39:20.160 More
00:39:20.600 Than
00:39:20.900 Just
00:39:21.320 The
00:39:21.560 Stated
00:39:21.940 Causes
00:39:22.480 There
00:39:23.440 Is 0.88
00:39:23.540 An
00:39:23.660 Element
00:39:24.000 Of
00:39:24.600 Community
00:39:25.300 And
00:39:26.480 For
00:39:27.120 Some
00:39:27.480 There
00:39:28.440 Is 0.88
00:39:29.040 Kind
00:39:29.580 Of
00:39:29.720 A
00:39:30.180 Cover
00:39:32.000 Under
00:39:32.900 Moral
00:39:33.320 Righteousness
00:39:34.060 To
00:39:34.400 Behave
00:39:35.040 In
00:39:35.240 Antisocial
00:39:35.960 Ways
00:39:36.360 And
00:39:37.040 I
00:39:37.260 Don't
00:39:37.500 Think
00:39:37.760 People
00:39:38.120 Will
00:39:38.360 Give
00:39:38.640 That
00:39:38.860 Up
00:39:39.180 Very
00:39:39.760 Easily
00:39:40.220 So
00:39:41.140 I
00:39:41.420 Don't
00:39:41.840 Particularly
00:39:42.360 See
00:39:43.060 An
00:39:43.560 End
00:39:43.780 In
00:39:44.000 Sight
00:39:44.320 You
00:39:45.380 Know
00:39:45.460 I
00:39:45.720 That's
00:39:48.880 Been
00:39:49.020 The
00:39:49.180 Case
00:39:49.560 Sort
00:39:49.820 Of
00:39:49.980 I've
00:39:50.400 Been
00:39:50.520 Covering
00:39:50.920 Protests
00:39:51.480 For
00:39:51.980 Four
00:39:52.620 Five
00:39:52.900 Years
00:39:53.220 Now
00:39:53.540 And
00:39:54.360 There's
00:39:54.820 Always
00:39:55.040 A
00:39:55.240 New
00:39:55.540 Flash
00:39:56.020 Point
00:39:56.320 With
00:39:56.760 Many
00:39:57.320 Of
00:39:57.540 The
00:39:57.660 Same
00:39:58.000 Characters
00:39:58.780 Recurring
00:39:59.460 And
00:40:00.560 So
00:40:00.880 Until
00:40:01.160 That's
00:40:03.020 Properly
00:40:03.620 Looked
00:40:03.980 At
00:40:04.220 And
00:40:04.360 Studied
00:40:04.800 And
00:40:05.020 What's
00:40:05.680 Actually
00:40:06.140 Going
00:40:07.060 On
00:40:07.340 Here
00:40:07.620 And
00:40:07.760 How
00:40:07.960 Are
00:40:08.120 We
00:40:08.400 Deploying
00:40:09.380 Resources
00:40:09.840 And
00:40:10.300 What
00:40:10.820 Are
00:40:11.220 The
00:40:11.560 Real
00:40:12.120 Problems
00:40:13.260 This
00:40:14.200 Is 0.88
00:40:14.960 Our
00:40:15.500 Status
00:40:15.900 Quo
00:40:16.320 And
00:40:17.080 I
00:40:17.900 See
00:40:18.180 It
00:40:18.380 Getting
00:40:18.920 Worse
00:40:19.320 Regrettably
00:40:21.620 I
00:40:21.980 Think
00:40:22.220 You
00:40:22.380 Are
00:40:22.520 Right
00:40:22.760 And
00:40:23.380 Nobody
00:40:23.640 Knows
00:40:23.960 More
00:40:24.180 About
00:40:24.360 This
00:40:24.600 Subject
00:40:24.960 In
00:40:25.200 Canada
00:40:25.800 Than
00:40:26.040 You
00:40:26.260 So
00:40:26.700 People
00:40:27.220 Should
00:40:27.400 Listen
00:40:27.660 To
00:40:27.840 What
00:40:28.000 You
00:40:28.160 Say
00:40:28.440 About
00:40:28.660 That
00:40:28.920 And
00:40:29.640 Many
00:40:29.840 Subjects
00:40:30.400 So
00:40:30.520 Listen
00:40:30.820 Go
00:40:31.340 On
00:40:31.540 Back
00:40:31.780 To
00:40:32.000 Pierre
00:40:32.240 Poly
00:40:32.540 If
00:40:32.960 You
00:40:33.100 Dare
00:40:33.340 And
00:40:34.360 Enjoy
00:40:35.200 Yourself
00:40:35.720 If
00:40:36.000 You
00:40:36.140 Can
00:40:36.460 And
00:40:37.180 Most
00:40:37.480 Grateful
00:40:37.880 Again
00:40:38.300 For
00:40:38.560 You
00:40:38.760 Sitting
00:40:39.000 Down
00:40:39.240 With
00:40:39.380 Us
00:40:39.540 This
00:40:39.740 Week
00:40:40.020 And
00:40:40.180 Apologies
00:40:40.660 Again
00:40:41.060 For
00:40:41.280 The
00:40:41.500 Second
00:40:42.140 Go
00:40:42.380 Around
00:40:42.600 This
00:40:42.800 One
00:40:43.000 Was
00:40:43.140 Good
00:40:43.380 We
00:40:43.640 Both
00:40:44.200 Sounded
00:40:44.500 Terrific
00:40:44.960 Quite
00:40:45.240 Frankly
00:40:45.620 I
00:40:47.100 Think
00:40:47.380 We
00:40:47.500 Made
00:40:47.660 Smarter
00:40:47.980 Points
00:40:48.360 We
00:40:48.940 Did
00:40:49.220 Okay
00:40:49.780 My
00:40:49.980 Friend
00:40:50.200 Have
00:40:50.580 A
00:40:50.700 Great
00:40:50.900 Day
00:40:51.080 Have
00:40:51.280 A
00:40:51.380 Good
00:40:51.520 One
00:40:51.700 Bye
00:40:52.140 Bye
00:40:52.660 Bye
00:41:15.620 Frustrated
00:41:16.760 Fused
00:41:17.260 And
00:41:17.720 Ignited
00:41:18.560 What
00:41:19.500 Do
00:41:19.660 I
00:41:19.980 Think
00:41:20.320 I
00:41:20.480 Think
00:41:20.800 Someone
00:41:21.200 Said
00:41:21.900 Give
00:41:22.740 Me
00:41:22.940 Your
00:41:23.300 Hand
00:41:23.760 And
00:41:24.080 Touch
00:41:24.320 My
00:41:24.680 Head
00:41:25.180 I
00:41:25.880 Think
00:41:26.140 I
00:41:26.460 Do
00:41:26.700 Not
00:41:26.940 Think
00:41:27.320 I
00:41:27.560 Do
00:41:27.760 Not
00:41:27.920 Care
00:41:28.360 I
00:41:29.180 Think
00:41:29.680 Whatever
00:41:30.420 Was
00:41:30.800 There
00:41:31.520 Here
00:41:45.320 It
00:41:45.500 Comes
00:41:45.720 With
00:41:45.920 See
00:41:46.220 It
00:41:46.940 Is 0.88
00:41:47.280 Seen
00:41:47.820 Staring
00:41:48.600 Showing
00:41:49.100 Me
00:41:49.420 The
00:41:49.820 Places
00:41:50.300 That
00:41:50.580 I
00:41:50.780 Been
00:41:51.140 If
00:41:51.740 I
00:41:51.960 Didn't
00:41:52.320 Know
00:41:52.660 Better
00:41:53.020 I
00:41:53.340 Would
00:41:53.620 Say
00:41:54.140 Know
00:41:55.020 Something
00:41:55.480 Else
00:41:55.920 Maybe
00:41:56.620 Someday
00:41:57.480 I
00:41:58.200 Hate
00:41:58.740 When
00:41:59.780 I'm
00:41:59.980 Told
00:42:00.180 I
00:42:00.360 Hate
00:42:00.740 I
00:42:01.440 Away
00:42:01.880 When
00:42:02.960 I
00:42:03.120 Told
00:42:03.400 I
00:42:03.560 Wait
00:42:03.860 The
00:42:04.460 Other
00:42:04.740 Day
00:42:05.400 I
00:42:05.600 Just
00:42:05.960 Couldn't
00:42:06.540 Die
00:42:07.180 Sickness
00:42:08.020 Time
00:42:08.340 Death
00:42:08.740 And 0.72
00:42:09.140 Suicide
00:42:10.020 ем
00:42:13.980 I
00:42:14.960 Theme
00:42:15.520 I
00:42:17.180 Have
00:42:17.720 кей
00:42:19.540 Future 0.92
00:42:20.060 Damn 0.94
00:42:23.980 all right and we're back and i don't have brian lidley but while i did he's on a highway somewhere 0.95
00:42:51.860 white knuckling it as he put it and i thought you know what i'm not paying the guy enough
00:42:57.220 uh to be on the podcast or in fact not paying him at all um to disturb his day and possibly
00:43:04.540 jeopardize his safety so um we're gonna forego having brian this week we'll get him back next
00:43:11.040 week he and i all have a lot to talk about and uh in the meantime um it's great to be home but it
00:43:19.460 was great to be in the uk so here is the departed but much missed pete shelley with one of his hits
00:43:28.660 during his solo period telephone operator and um thanks for tuning in to this edition of the
00:43:36.220 Kinsella cast
00:43:37.420 telephone operator why can't i see you later
00:43:56.300 telephone operator why can't i see you later
00:44:03.660 tell me is it wine
00:44:08.060 that this is so fine
00:44:11.820 or is it you're mine
00:44:16.460 telephone operator you're my horror stimulator
00:44:33.020 telephone operator
00:44:54.060 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
00:45:00.780 Telephone operator
00:45:22.540 Phone you up an hour later
00:45:24.560 Telephone operator
00:45:29.920 Phoned you up an hour later
00:45:32.140 Tell me it's a glove
00:45:36.500 And I did it cause
00:45:40.120 I'm only thinking of
00:45:43.620 You
00:45:47.040 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
00:45:52.360 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
00:45:59.740 Telephone operator
00:46:19.120 Travel phone an hour later
00:46:24.640 Travel phone an hour later
00:46:28.060 Travel phone an hour later
00:46:31.840 Travel phone an hour later
00:46:36.540 Woo! 0.99