kinsellacast - KINSELLACAST 403： Hell just got a bit more crowded - Iran and more with Pierson, Sa'd, Lilley, Belanger - plus Sharp Pins, Dry Cleaning, Katzin, Dove Ellis

00:00:00.000 it's the kinsella cast starring warren kinsella

00:00:08.240 hey it's warren welcome to kinsella cast i've got quite a show for you this week because it's

00:00:26.680 been quite a week i've got brian really who's talked to a lot of smart and important people

00:00:33.480 i've got kareem assad who is keeping an eye on the protest circuit i've got carl belanger who

00:00:41.160 gives us perspective from the progressive side um and i've got some great great music for you

00:00:49.360 uh kind of lo-fi stuff i've got wunderbar who's an american indie rock band from boston

00:00:55.980 and they've been around for about a decade and they'll end the show with their cover the pixies

00:01:00.980 the thing great cover uh young guy named thomas o'donohue um i've got shoes older than him he

00:01:09.160 goes by the stage name dove ellis and does he's irish kind of indie folk rock like i'm gonna start

00:01:17.360 off with his tune heaven has no wings it kind of felt like elton john circa 1972 to me which is not

00:01:25.260 a bad thing and um so i've got that i've got um this amazing young guy right after that i think

00:01:33.800 katson um and his real name is zion battle i believe and um he's from virginia grew up in north carolina

00:01:46.400 and i've got his tune cowboy dry cleaning is somebody i've played before english post-punk

00:01:53.140 band been around for a bit of decade um four piece and they do kind of spoken word stuff

00:02:00.700 they kind of have unconventional lyrics actually all the bands i like have unconventional lyrics

00:02:06.120 they sound a bit to me like wire or magazine or joy division which are all good things in my opinion

00:02:11.460 i worship all those bands so i've got their tune joy and then i've got sharp pins who i definitely

00:02:17.240 played before uh with i can't stop which is more guided by voices than guided by voices but they

00:02:24.380 hooked me with the break the break has got this bass sound uh i think it's like one note but it really

00:02:29.940 does it for me it's uh sharp pins is kai slater another 20 something from chicago and he releases his

00:02:37.560 music his solo stuff with sharp pins and um kit's just a genius anyway as i say it's been quite a

00:02:44.480 week uh it's gone on for years this week it's hard to believe but my book the hidden hands started to be

00:02:50.400 released first as an e-book and then um next month as a hardcover so it came out this week um apparently

00:03:00.740 it's edging onto some bestseller lists so says amazon who knows um but it already feels like it was a

00:03:07.120 million years ago fortuitously i guess for the my book sales um there's quite a bit in the book

00:03:16.140 about iran and the jewish state and terrorism and propaganda and democracy um and that's in fact

00:03:24.540 what the whole book's about and like i and every other person who opposes terrorism and supports human

00:03:32.140 rights and decency and democracy and civilization celebrated the elimination of the monster because

00:03:38.580 he was a monster who was iran's supreme leader ali khamenei like his predecessor ayatollah khamenei

00:03:46.100 came khamenei slaughtered and imprisoned his own people and killed thousands in acts of terror around

00:03:52.520 the world over the past five decades like he was a monster and he will not be missed but he also

00:03:59.180 presided over a brilliant and effective propaganda campaign against jews and the jewish state and

00:04:04.980 western democracy and as i talk about in the hidden hand khamenei had been doing that for a long time

00:04:10.380 but after thousands of jews were slaughtered and wounded on october 7th 2023 by iran's proxy hamas

00:04:18.320 the propaganda campaign moved into overdrive and like make no mistake guys it was iran as biden's

00:04:26.640 national security director avril haynes declared i think was the july before last she said that iran

00:04:33.180 had been paying for protesters and disrupting democracy and putting money into attacking jews

00:04:39.260 non-believers and they'd been aided and abetted by an army of gen z types who had been radicalized

00:04:46.660 online that's all in my book so you can download that now if you like or you can get it in hardcover

00:04:52.900 starting next month and i'll be all kinds of events to promote that and i'm going to be at those and

00:04:58.800 book signings so i look forward to meeting you and i look forward to some of the protests so i can

00:05:03.480 step outside and say to the protesters hey thanks for giving me the best possible review that i could get

00:05:10.640 which is your presence here objecting to me anyway um all of that reminds me

00:05:17.060 it's march like around here march came in with more snow but also with one less ayatollah and i think

00:05:27.200 we are all better for that so welcome to the ginsella cast

00:05:32.180 when the fire was out and you keep the doors in and i just didn't call baby when i'm at the lake

00:05:50.420 oh

00:05:59.460 and this winter of dust

00:06:09.800 they held your hand and held aside

00:06:12.200 you were talking in hand

00:06:14.060 You were getting that gray

00:06:18.220 You said no matter what you grow

00:06:26.320 Keep my hand, watch it slow

00:06:30.560 We all catch thousands

00:06:40.940 We've all got me a light hand

00:06:43.360 I mean he's jocks and angry

00:06:44.660 He speaks in every single truth

00:06:49.780 And he's in the neck of the sky

00:06:53.440 Saying take me far away

00:07:02.060 Then blast me down with fire and rain

00:07:06.820 Oh, take me far away

00:07:10.900 Then blast me down with fire and rain

00:07:15.200 Oh, take me far away

00:07:19.500 Heaven has no wings itself

00:07:33.800 Heaven has no wings itself

00:07:37.800 Heaven, heaven, heaven has no wings itself

00:07:54.100 Heaven, heaven, heaven has no wings itself

00:08:02.040 Heaven, heaven, heaven has no existence

00:08:10.020 And we're back, and they've let slip the dogs of war.

00:08:16.280 Brian Nilley, I guess war is upon us.

00:08:20.420 What do you think?

00:08:21.080 What's your reaction as an observer of events

00:08:23.880 and a commenter on events?

00:08:25.960 What do you think?

00:08:26.580 Was this the right move?

00:08:28.800 I think so.

00:08:29.600 And hopefully it goes smoothly for both the United States and Israel.

00:08:35.420 Prime Minister Mark Carney putting out a statement

00:08:37.740 that he fully backs the United States in doing this.

00:08:41.560 Were you surprised by that?

00:08:43.360 I was surprised by how strong his statement was.

00:08:47.520 He made brief passing mention of Israel.

00:08:51.580 That's probably for the best, given his, as you pointed out online,

00:08:55.180 his comments on Israel are normally awful.

00:08:57.440 So he just said they have the right to defend themselves.

00:08:59.300 But he said he stands behind the United States' efforts

00:09:02.700 to ensure that Iran never gets a nuclear weapon.

00:09:06.580 Look, you know, the United Nations Security Council

00:09:11.580 held a meeting yesterday.

00:09:12.880 I watched parts of it, and some of the countries were just,

00:09:17.540 you know, Pakistan, Russia, China,

00:09:19.420 all denouncing the Americans, supporting the Iranians.

00:09:22.400 The Secretary General just saying, oh, you know, we can never turn to this.

00:09:28.300 The reason that the United States and Israel had to turn to this

00:09:31.940 is because the United Nations has once again proven itself to be incompetent.

00:09:36.860 You know, Iran is the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism.

00:09:43.700 They killed 55 Canadians, more than 100 people with connections to Canada

00:09:50.060 who were on a flight back to Canada on PS725 three years ago.

00:09:56.700 They have attacked targets around the world.

00:10:00.520 They funded Hamas to launch the October 7th attacks.

00:10:03.760 They fund Hezbollah, which, you know, terrorizes the people of Lebanon,

00:10:08.960 not just the people of Israel, but the people of Lebanon.

00:10:11.100 They have been in a proxy war in Yemen with Saudi Arabia for years.

00:10:15.420 They threaten all of their Gulf Arab neighbor states.

00:10:21.780 You know, they are a cancerous regime.

00:10:26.240 But is it going to work? Is it going to work?

00:10:27.980 I spoke to Carl Belanger earlier and his view, and I think, you know, he's right.

00:10:34.180 It's hard to affect regime change from one mile up in a fighter jet.

00:10:38.560 Like, if they are serious about regime change,

00:10:40.760 don't they have to have boots on the ground?

00:10:42.180 Well, I think that their boots are going to be the Iranian people.

00:10:49.000 I mean, we saw those massive protests,

00:10:51.280 and Donald Trump had promised help is on the way,

00:10:55.180 and, you know, it didn't arrive, it didn't arrive.

00:10:57.740 A lot of people thought, okay, well, you know, he made that promise,

00:11:01.520 but he's not keeping it.

00:11:03.240 Yesterday in his statement, he said, help has finally arrived.

00:11:06.940 Now is your chance to stand up.

00:11:09.080 Look, I always have, I'm always very nervous about revolutions.

00:11:14.060 Does it become the American Revolution,

00:11:15.720 which leads to eventually peace and government by the people for the people,

00:11:21.760 or does it become the French Revolution,

00:11:23.400 where it's retribution and killing,

00:11:26.040 and what was it, a decade of slaughter before things got better in France?

00:11:30.920 And you never know which way it's going to go,

00:11:34.820 but, you know, I know a lot of Iranian Canadians here in Toronto

00:11:37.980 who have been hoping for this sort of action

00:11:42.780 to help their family members back in Iran

00:11:45.960 take control of their country again,

00:11:48.440 because they feel that their country has been oppressed,

00:11:52.960 which clearly has been.

00:11:54.660 I mean, 30,000 to 40,000 people killed

00:11:56.740 in those street protests just a month ago.

00:11:59.660 Yeah, in 36 hours.

00:12:00.980 Now, you've been a very busy media machine,

00:12:03.660 as usual, over the past 48 hours.

00:12:06.980 You've spoken to a lot of smart and committed and passionate people.

00:12:11.000 Tell us about who you've spoken to.

00:12:13.620 So before the attacks happened,

00:12:17.340 I had interviewed an academic expert,

00:12:19.920 Jonathan Panikoff,

00:12:22.180 from the Atlantic Council about what could happen.

00:12:25.980 And I'd interviewed Ambassador John Bolton,

00:12:30.980 who served at the United Nations under George W. Bush,

00:12:34.000 famously served as Trump's national security advisor,

00:12:37.520 and then had a big blow-up with him.

00:12:40.800 And they were both saying that,

00:12:42.920 Bolton especially,

00:12:45.100 that it would have to come to this,

00:12:47.420 and that he felt that regime change would be a good thing.

00:12:51.140 Yesterday, I spoke to Canada's former ambassador to Israel,

00:12:55.140 Vivian Berkovich,

00:12:55.980 who's just south of Tel Aviv.

00:12:58.320 We were talking about what the situation was like there.

00:13:02.300 Spoke to Elon Levy,

00:13:03.600 former Israeli government spokesman,

00:13:05.900 who, I mean,

00:13:07.140 that interview was delayed quite a bit

00:13:09.100 by Elon having to go into bomb shelters

00:13:14.200 time and again for hours.

00:13:16.440 Again, some on-the-ground discussion.

00:13:18.960 And then spoke to retired General Rick Hillier,

00:13:22.520 Canada's former chief of defense staff,

00:13:24.180 who knows many of the American senior military leadership.

00:13:28.980 And, you know,

00:13:29.480 we talked about what kind of scenarios

00:13:32.660 would have been laid in front of President Trump

00:13:34.560 by Raisin Cain,

00:13:36.640 the chief of the defense staff.

00:13:39.700 You know,

00:13:40.740 it was really interesting because he let me in.

00:13:43.720 you're presenting military options to a leader,

00:13:49.600 but that you've got to do it within the context

00:13:52.520 of what could be happening politically.

00:13:55.940 And, you know,

00:13:56.500 he related some stories of when he was advising

00:13:58.780 Prime Minister Harper,

00:14:00.080 and he said,

00:14:01.520 you've got to stay within your lane,

00:14:03.160 but there's no doubt that

00:14:04.840 you have to inform them that,

00:14:07.420 yes,

00:14:07.580 if we do this politically,

00:14:09.260 that could happen.

00:14:10.980 And here are the pros and the cons.

00:14:12.960 And so that was all laid out.

00:14:15.240 But Hillier was really good by saying,

00:14:18.740 pointing out something that's just getting

00:14:21.200 a little bit of notice now.

00:14:23.260 This attack,

00:14:24.580 just like Venezuela,

00:14:26.720 further weakens China.

00:14:28.140 Well, let's talk about that.

00:14:29.180 And just let me be devil's advocate for a moment.

00:14:32.740 You know,

00:14:33.080 as you know,

00:14:33.740 I supported reluctantly,

00:14:36.740 grudgingly,

00:14:37.900 Trump taking Majuro,

00:14:40.140 the human rights abuser and monster,

00:14:41.880 like Ali Khamenei,

00:14:43.180 and taking him to the United States for prosecution.

00:14:46.020 Supported that.

00:14:46.900 But then he left in charge

00:14:48.500 the dictator's regime.

00:14:51.120 He left those people in Venezuela.

00:14:53.640 So that's why I think guys like me

00:14:55.400 have a lot of misgiving

00:14:56.460 about Trump being at the forefront

00:14:58.940 of this action this weekend.

00:15:00.220 I trust Israel,

00:15:01.260 but I don't trust Trump.

00:15:02.780 And a lot of,

00:15:03.380 the polling shows that.

00:15:04.800 Like,

00:15:04.960 what do you say to people who say,

00:15:07.000 okay,

00:15:07.320 sure,

00:15:08.320 take out the evil Ayatollah

00:15:10.040 and his regime,

00:15:10.780 but I don't like the guy leading the charge?

00:15:15.600 Well,

00:15:16.400 you don't have to like the guy leading the charge.

00:15:20.180 And Khamenei was a monster.

00:15:22.800 I mean,

00:15:23.360 he's been supreme leader since 1989.

00:15:25.840 For seven years before that,

00:15:27.100 he was president.

00:15:28.940 He has been at the forefront

00:15:31.020 of how brutal this regime has been.

00:15:35.200 And it looks like they're doing much more

00:15:38.680 than what they did with Maduro here.

00:15:42.220 They're not going to attempt

00:15:44.140 to leave in charge the regime.

00:15:48.720 Now,

00:15:48.880 why did they do that in Venezuela

00:15:51.040 instead of backing Maria Machado?

00:15:53.980 You know,

00:15:55.600 Trump speaks in strange ways.

00:15:57.560 He can be very blunt.

00:15:58.440 If you remember,

00:15:59.120 he said,

00:15:59.560 she doesn't have the respect.

00:16:01.520 And after talking to people

00:16:03.800 who know the situation on the ground,

00:16:07.060 what they felt he was trying to convey

00:16:09.740 is that the machinery of government

00:16:13.900 is so embedded with the Chavistas,

00:16:16.780 which is what Maduro was,

00:16:18.500 which is what the woman in charge now is,

00:16:22.180 that if they had put in Machado

00:16:24.740 and said,

00:16:25.420 this is your new leader,

00:16:26.960 the machinery would have killed her

00:16:29.800 within days or weeks.

00:16:32.120 Yeah,

00:16:32.460 I don't buy it.

00:16:34.280 I mean,

00:16:34.720 look,

00:16:35.540 it's in the polling,

00:16:37.200 brother.

00:16:37.380 Even before the action

00:16:39.280 was taken this weekend,

00:16:41.300 a significant majority of Americans,

00:16:44.520 lots of polling was finding this,

00:16:46.860 were concerned about going after Iran.

00:16:49.440 How do you reach those people?

00:16:50.780 The smart people you've spoken to this weekend,

00:16:53.640 I know all of them,

00:16:55.080 and I'm not Bolton,

00:16:56.580 I know their views.

00:16:58.280 Like,

00:16:58.720 of course,

00:16:59.300 they're going to be in favor

00:17:00.200 of what took place.

00:17:01.380 How do you reach the people

00:17:02.820 who are not on side?

00:17:04.980 So what Trump's problem

00:17:06.280 with the polling

00:17:06.960 is that a big chunk

00:17:08.200 of those who are opposed to this

00:17:09.720 are going to be his base.

00:17:12.600 So there's going to be...

00:17:14.020 Interesting.

00:17:14.200 Explain that.

00:17:14.940 How is that so?

00:17:16.320 Well,

00:17:16.640 let me just explain

00:17:17.900 the fact that

00:17:19.180 there's going to be

00:17:19.700 some people who oppose it

00:17:21.240 just because it's Donald Trump

00:17:22.460 and they are

00:17:23.000 hardcore Democrat partisans.

00:17:24.900 There's going to be

00:17:25.840 Democrat supporters

00:17:26.960 who still say,

00:17:28.640 well,

00:17:28.920 I don't like Trump,

00:17:29.760 but this is the right thing

00:17:30.840 to do in Iran.

00:17:32.380 Yep.

00:17:33.000 But there is a chunk

00:17:34.620 of the Republican

00:17:36.260 base that is now

00:17:37.320 entirely protectionist.

00:17:38.800 You know,

00:17:39.200 for a while,

00:17:39.840 that was the Democrat base.

00:17:41.640 That has shifted

00:17:42.520 over the past bunch of years.

00:17:44.620 We saw it in MAGA 1.

00:17:46.400 We saw it even more

00:17:47.520 in Trump's re-election

00:17:49.700 in 2024.

00:17:50.980 People that say,

00:17:52.100 we need to stop

00:17:52.780 the forever wars.

00:17:54.360 So,

00:17:54.900 you know,

00:17:55.600 if he's going to

00:17:56.680 get the public on side,

00:17:58.080 this has to be quick.

00:17:59.780 This has to be weeks,

00:18:01.040 not months,

00:18:01.620 and definitely not years.

00:18:03.660 If this becomes

00:18:04.900 a military operation

00:18:06.320 that takes years,

00:18:07.940 then he's going

00:18:09.420 to lose everyone

00:18:10.240 at home.

00:18:12.100 If it is done quickly

00:18:13.880 and the Iranian people

00:18:15.420 rise up and say,

00:18:16.360 okay,

00:18:16.540 we've got it,

00:18:17.240 we'll take it from here,

00:18:19.040 then,

00:18:20.040 you know,

00:18:20.660 this will dissipate

00:18:22.180 as an issue.

00:18:23.240 If he gets into

00:18:24.400 a forever war,

00:18:25.600 he's going to lose

00:18:26.300 his own base.

00:18:27.620 You know,

00:18:27.960 I know you've been

00:18:29.180 talking a lot

00:18:29.900 about the midterms

00:18:30.760 and Trump's in trouble.

00:18:32.140 Nothing will hurt him

00:18:33.340 more than this.

00:18:35.340 You know,

00:18:35.520 the economic things

00:18:36.720 can change between

00:18:37.520 now and September.

00:18:40.180 Some of his policies

00:18:42.040 might turn things around

00:18:43.480 or,

00:18:44.520 you know,

00:18:45.140 no tax on tips

00:18:46.100 may be hugely popular

00:18:47.400 and that was just

00:18:48.020 implemented.

00:18:48.800 All of those things

00:18:49.700 can change,

00:18:50.540 but this military

00:18:51.880 operation,

00:18:52.660 if it is,

00:18:53.300 you know,

00:18:54.000 dragging on

00:18:54.840 by the time

00:18:55.680 the midterms come,

00:18:57.100 Republican wipeout.

00:18:58.600 Well,

00:18:59.160 people should listen

00:18:59.920 to Brian Nellie.

00:19:00.740 He's been talking

00:19:01.100 to some smart people

00:19:02.060 and I think

00:19:03.800 your assessment

00:19:04.460 is bang on.

00:19:06.680 Wars are always,

00:19:08.040 I guess they're easy

00:19:08.780 to get into

00:19:09.320 but not so easy

00:19:10.300 to get out of,

00:19:11.060 are they?

00:19:11.900 Well,

00:19:12.120 we normally see

00:19:13.060 in the U.S.,

00:19:13.840 regardless of who's

00:19:14.680 president,

00:19:15.280 when they start a war,

00:19:16.840 there's an initial

00:19:17.660 polling bump

00:19:18.700 for the president.

00:19:20.320 It's,

00:19:21.020 as you say,

00:19:22.200 how they get out of it

00:19:23.040 or if they get out of it

00:19:24.340 that makes the difference.

00:19:25.680 It does indeed.

00:19:26.660 Listen,

00:19:27.020 man,

00:19:27.240 thank you so much

00:19:27.960 for this.

00:19:28.360 I know you've got

00:19:28.740 a busy,

00:19:29.360 busy weekend

00:19:30.140 following this big story,

00:19:32.480 but we're grateful

00:19:33.340 for your insight

00:19:34.020 and your wisdom

00:19:34.480 as always,

00:19:35.000 so thank you.

00:19:35.540 Talk soon.

00:19:55.680 I'm going out on the town

00:20:05.980 I want to live.

00:20:07.300 Find out what you need.

00:20:16.920 Find out what you need.

00:20:30.920 if you need help you.

00:20:32.540 And if you can ask,

00:20:42.800 excuse me,

00:20:43.220 let's keep your buddy

00:20:43.320 out of there

00:20:44.380 and budge.

00:20:45.320 And I'm part of it now, cowboy

00:20:48.320 Still spinning like a tumbleweed

00:20:58.960 I'm letting out west

00:21:00.880 But you go and ease the cowboy

00:21:04.320 Desert

00:21:15.320 And I'm a green

00:21:23.320 Rose dark

00:21:27.320 Don't see me

00:21:36.320 Dice in me

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00:22:34.320 to be honest. I think it's unclear if the world is a better place now, if it's safer now. Maybe

00:22:41.560 it will be in the long run. But the game plan doesn't seem to be clear other than what happened

00:22:48.520 in the past 48 hours. So we'll have to see. And I think you know full well that, you know,

00:22:57.600 the leader of Iran that was killed was not a good guy. I think we can all agree on that.

00:23:07.040 And that's why you see the European capital reacting in a very prudent manner. Canada

00:23:16.300 kind of supporting the operation, but not quite, because nobody wants to be on the side

00:23:22.220 of Iran, except for the usual suspect. But at the same time, there's lots of concerns that need to

00:23:28.820 be raised about international law. And you can do what when. And I don't know that we have the

00:23:35.300 answers to that at this point. Now, it sounds like you've got concerns. What is your your chief

00:23:40.540 concern besides international law? To me, international law is a set of principles that

00:23:45.460 are never enforced. Like what? What are you worried about? In this action being taken? You've

00:23:52.620 said that it was good they took this guy out. Is your concern how long this might go on and

00:23:58.220 what it means for the region or the world? Well, and civilians that will be, you know,

00:24:04.560 collateral damage, for sure. But my main concern is, when you talk about regime change,

00:24:12.220 there is a need to have a plan in place. When there is no plan, it leads to chaos. It leads to

00:24:20.200 more death. It leads to internal conflict, civil wars. It means to more death. That's what my

00:24:26.460 concern is. We've seen it in Libya. We've seen it in other places in the Middle East. If you don't

00:24:36.760 have a clear plan, and if you're not willing to be involved directly, things don't necessarily turn

00:24:44.740 out for the best. So this is why I am raising these concerns, because I don't know what's next.

00:24:52.680 And nobody knows, frankly. I'm not sure that the United States knows, and I'm not sure that Israel

00:24:57.680 knows. There was a poll, actually, there's been a number of polls prior to Israel and the United States

00:25:03.600 taking their action, showing that a majority of Americans were against military action against Iran.

00:25:12.120 And I think probably a big part of that, and wanted to get your comment on it, is the guy who's leading

00:25:18.480 the charge, to a large extent, is Donald Trump. Do you think that people have misgivings about this

00:25:23.940 because of what they see is his poor judgment about so many other things?

00:25:31.840 I think that's exactly right. But, you know, you've said it, international law, even American law,

00:25:37.300 is not being followed, and nobody's enforcing it. And he's not the first president that, you know,

00:25:43.460 launched a military operation without the approval of Congress or without, you know, following the law.

00:25:49.520 And it's really difficult for Congress to prevent it. And, you know, part of the concerns, I think,

00:25:58.460 of Americans, I think many of them have seen the movie, Whack the Dog. So is this what's happening?

00:26:07.220 Or is there a better motive at play here? It's hard to know with Donald Trump. It's hard to

00:26:13.460 know if he's doing the right thing for the right reasons, or if he's doing something for the wrong

00:26:19.040 reasons. And this is why I think you've seen these polling numbers, because they know that this guy

00:26:26.680 has been reckless in the past, and they're concerned. Now, so far, there's no American

00:26:33.140 casualties, but there are some Allied casualties. And it could be more, because Iran is not a small

00:26:39.460 country. It doesn't have a small army. It has some capacity, as it has shown over the past 48 hours

00:26:46.060 of retaliation. Yeah, that's the concern that I pointed out to people. I mean, I think the

00:26:51.340 Ayatollah leaving this mortal coil is nothing but a good thing. He was an evil man who murdered his

00:27:01.560 own people and exported terror around the world. However, there's 200,000 members of the IRGC are

00:27:07.660 still there who are hardened and military trained. And I don't quite see how you can affect regime

00:27:16.400 change from one mile up in a fighter jet. Do you think that military action on the ground is

00:27:23.960 inevitable, if they're serious about regime change?

00:27:26.940 Yeah, I mean, Khamenei is one guy, but this is a very well, long standing, organized theocracy.

00:27:36.020 You can't just decapitate it and think, we're done here. And the signals that were sent by the White

00:27:42.360 House and by others, that it's up now to the people, well, it doesn't quite work like that.

00:27:48.820 We've seen it. They've tried. And there was very hard repression against those courageous

00:27:57.420 civilians who are trying to rise up. But it's not that easily done. As I said, Iran, I mean,

00:28:06.400 you mentioned the Islamic Revolutionary Guards. These guys, they're no militia. They are well-trained.

00:28:14.940 They are professionals. It's not a bunch of conscripts. They are fanatics. And they will go

00:28:21.740 really far to make sure that their vision of the world and of their religion prevails.

00:28:30.080 One final question to apply this situation to Canada, and to North America, to the West. You've

00:28:39.440 got Mondami in New York City condemning it. You've got Heather McPherson, who's an NDP leadership

00:28:45.640 candidate, condemning it. A lot of people on the so-called left are expressing concern.

00:28:54.100 Do you think that this event, this action, what's taking place over the weekend is something that

00:29:01.740 is going to put some lift in the wings of the NDP? Does it help them out? Because Carney came out

00:29:07.440 pretty unambiguously in support of what Trump and Israel have done.

00:29:11.820 Yeah, he did. But at the same time, it's not like Canada is going to be involved in this.

00:29:18.140 Yeah, for sure.

00:29:19.620 I think Mark Carney is edging his bets because of the domestic, you know, consideration and

00:29:27.360 the trade consideration that are at play. He can't afford to have another point of disagreement

00:29:33.560 with Donald Trump. So he's going as far as he can without having to do anything more than

00:29:43.100 that. So his statement, you know, I don't think will have a major impact, but the NDP will

00:29:46.960 try. I mean, also, again, it depends how long this lasts, right? If it goes on and on and

00:29:53.100 on and suddenly, I don't know, I'm speculating here, the United States feel that they're wearing

00:29:58.320 the brunt alone and they need the help of their allies and so on and so forth. We've seen

00:30:02.840 that in the past. We'll have to see what Canada will do then and what Mark Carney will say

00:30:08.100 then.

00:30:09.800 Excellent points as always, my friend. Thank you so much for giving your insight and your

00:30:15.000 wisdom to the podcast. Much appreciated. Have a wonderful day and a wonderful week. Thank

00:30:20.900 you.

00:30:32.840 Thank you.

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00:33:05.220 And we're back, we're back with my friend Karima Saad

00:33:09.680 And Karima, I wanted to draw to your attention

00:33:12.720 Well, I've already sent it to you, so you've seen it

00:33:14.940 There was supposed to be a protest yesterday in Vancouver

00:33:20.220 And the group that put the sign out, the poster out

00:33:24.760 Said, the new face of genocide, all out for Palestine

00:33:28.180 And advertised their rally in Grandview Park in Vancouver

00:33:31.880 And then, after this weekend's events

00:33:35.280 After the Israelis and the Americans took out the Ayatollah

00:33:39.860 And the head of the IRGC and a number of others in Iran

00:33:43.200 The poster was quickly changed to

00:33:45.340 Hands off Iran, an emergency call

00:33:48.000 All out against U.S.-Israeli war on Iran

00:33:51.060 All out for Palestine and Iran

00:33:52.980 Same place, same time, same people

00:33:55.480 But they pivoted very quickly

00:33:57.720 What is happening?

00:33:59.780 Is this something that you're seeing elsewhere in the country?

00:34:03.880 Yeah, I'm not surprised to see this at all

00:34:06.240 Even in, you know, the past year or so

00:34:11.720 There has been significant overlap

00:34:15.700 Almost perfect overlap

00:34:17.100 Between individuals protesting against U.S. and Israeli intervention

00:34:23.540 In Iran and Palestine

00:34:26.820 And so, in Toronto, we had a rally outside the U.S. consulate

00:34:32.320 That was organized by the Palestinian youth movement

00:34:35.020 Attended by many of the same individuals

00:34:38.420 Who are regulars on the Palestine protest circuit

00:34:42.540 And I believe that they see a very clear connection

00:34:48.320 Between these issues

00:34:50.640 There's this undercurrent of anti-imperial

00:34:55.080 Particularly anti-U.S.

00:34:57.020 Anti-Israel sentiment

00:34:58.800 And so it transfers

00:35:01.080 Whether they are talking about Palestine

00:35:04.680 Palestine or Iran

00:35:06.500 So, but how can they do that?

00:35:11.140 It's two different things

00:35:12.480 Isn't it?

00:35:13.940 Or to them, is it all just the same thing?

00:35:16.300 Anti-Israel, anti-U.S., anti-democracy, anti-West?

00:35:20.160 I'm trying to figure out their thinking

00:35:21.600 I would say, yeah, I would say within this movement

00:35:24.320 There is a deliberate sort of attempt

00:35:29.720 To link or interconnect different struggles

00:35:34.940 And so even at a Palestine rally

00:35:37.920 You will occasionally hear chants about the Congo

00:35:41.140 Or Sudan

00:35:42.500 Or, you know, issues that seem to have nothing to do with Gaza

00:35:47.340 But in their worldview

00:35:49.520 All of these problems come from the same source

00:35:54.260 Which is colonialism, imperialism

00:35:57.940 And again, a particular focus on the U.S. and Israel

00:36:03.000 And so do you anticipate

00:36:06.300 Let's say this war

00:36:08.360 I guess it's a war

00:36:10.060 That is now underway in Iran

00:36:12.460 And then in the Middle East

00:36:14.820 Do you expect it's going to put wind in the sails

00:36:19.080 Of the protest circuit?

00:36:20.860 You know, previously pro-Palestine

00:36:23.640 Now, you know, pro-Iran

00:36:25.780 Do you think that we're going to start to see

00:36:27.840 A lot more protests again?

00:36:30.040 It's getting warmer

00:36:31.100 Do you think this is what's going to be their focus

00:36:33.900 Over the coming weeks?

00:36:36.360 The change in weather always brings

00:36:38.680 I would say more people out

00:36:40.480 And yeah, I mean

00:36:42.940 There is a responsiveness

00:36:44.760 To current events

00:36:47.100 And so I wouldn't be surprised

00:36:49.800 To see more of a focus on this

00:36:52.140 Again, the Islamic Republic of Iran flags

00:36:55.500 Have been a consistent feature

00:36:57.400 At many Palestine demonstrations

00:37:00.620 At least in Toronto GTA

00:37:03.820 And, you know, there's of course

00:37:06.780 Also, the geopolitical connection

00:37:12.320 Between Hamas and Iran

00:37:16.400 Right?

00:37:17.420 So, you know, to what degree

00:37:20.100 Are most protesters aware of that?

00:37:22.320 I really think it depends

00:37:23.640 On their level of fluency in these issues

00:37:27.920 Certainly, some individuals

00:37:30.440 Seem to have a strong grasp on that

00:37:33.600 And I anticipate they will show up strongly

00:37:37.420 And encourage their comrades

00:37:39.560 To show up strongly

00:37:40.600 To oppose anything happening in Iran

00:37:45.200 That goes against the Islamic regime

00:37:47.940 And it's not just the protest circuit, is it?

00:37:50.560 You know, there's polling

00:37:51.380 I talked to Carl Boulanger and Brian Linley

00:37:53.320 About already this morning

00:37:54.640 Before the Americans and the Israelis

00:37:57.260 Even took this military action

00:37:59.060 Against Iran's regime

00:38:01.020 There was polling in the United States

00:38:03.620 And elsewhere in the world

00:38:04.720 Foursquare

00:38:05.840 Fully against exactly what transpired

00:38:09.040 Is that something you think

00:38:10.860 That's happening

00:38:11.440 Because Trump is leading the charge

00:38:13.280 And Netanyahu

00:38:14.000 Two very unpopular leaders

00:38:16.080 Or is it the notion

00:38:18.740 This foreign interference

00:38:20.140 Because it's not just on the left

00:38:21.520 As Lily pointed out to me this morning

00:38:23.740 You've got elements within the MAGA movement

00:38:26.040 Who are dead set against

00:38:27.260 What Trump did this weekend as well

00:38:28.960 Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both

00:38:31.940 Obviously you have two

00:38:34.600 Sort of charismatic or uncharismatic

00:38:38.480 Depending on how you feel about them

00:38:40.060 But objectively charismatic leaders

00:38:42.020 Who bring with them

00:38:46.200 A whole lot of baggage

00:38:48.140 And so anything they touch

00:38:49.740 Is dirt from some perspective

00:38:53.160 And then, you know

00:38:54.860 I think there's also

00:38:56.140 Particularly in the US

00:38:59.040 A sense of fatigue

00:39:00.660 With respect to foreign conflicts

00:39:03.100 And intervening in foreign conflicts

00:39:04.960 And, you know, Iraq and Afghanistan

00:39:07.060 Didn't go great

00:39:08.200 And now we have Iran

00:39:10.500 Which is a much

00:39:12.160 I would say more formidable foe

00:39:15.100 Than they were facing, right?

00:39:17.580 So, you know

00:39:19.620 How is that America first?

00:39:23.220 At least from their perspective

00:39:25.080 That's my take on it

00:39:27.360 And I would also note

00:39:28.520 That at yesterday's Toronto rally

00:39:31.220 There was a pretty large contingent

00:39:34.620 Of people with communist flags

00:39:39.060 Different brands of communist parties

00:39:41.460 In Canada

00:39:42.140 And they've also been present

00:39:44.940 Throughout, you know

00:39:47.080 The past couple of years

00:39:48.660 Of Palestine-related protests

00:39:50.740 But absolutely

00:39:52.420 There's an ideological opposition

00:39:54.500 To this as well

00:39:56.300 So even if it hadn't been Trump

00:39:57.900 They still would have opposed

00:39:59.280 I think

00:39:59.880 Western military action in Iran

00:40:04.400 So let's talk about

00:40:05.500 The ideology of these people

00:40:06.840 You've had some footage this week

00:40:09.000 Of a protest involving

00:40:11.760 Movement people

00:40:12.940 You should tell everybody

00:40:14.500 What the movement is

00:40:15.820 Really actually quite violent

00:40:18.360 And quite physical

00:40:21.100 And a little bit shocking

00:40:23.640 Taking place

00:40:24.420 That you and your videographer

00:40:26.060 Documented

00:40:26.820 Tell us about movement

00:40:27.900 And tell us what's happening

00:40:29.460 Are they getting more radical?

00:40:30.920 Are they getting more forceful?

00:40:33.420 So I consider the movement

00:40:35.640 To be something of an

00:40:36.800 Omni-cause progressive movement

00:40:38.480 That does link

00:40:41.040 These seemingly disparate issues

00:40:43.400 You know

00:40:44.760 With these threads

00:40:45.800 Of anti-colonialism

00:40:48.200 Anti-imperialism

00:40:49.480 And what we saw

00:40:51.600 Earlier this week

00:40:52.760 Was outside

00:40:53.800 Hootsuite headquarters

00:40:55.340 In Toronto

00:40:56.320 And it was kind of

00:40:57.700 A fusion

00:40:58.460 Cause protest

00:41:00.080 They were against

00:41:01.240 Bill C-12

00:41:02.820 That was being debated

00:41:04.360 In parliament

00:41:05.480 That would limit

00:41:06.800 Certain existing rights

00:41:10.280 For asylum claimants

00:41:12.940 Asylum claimants

00:41:14.140 And they were also

00:41:15.640 Opposed to

00:41:16.700 Hootsuite

00:41:17.540 Allegedly

00:41:18.860 Or actually

00:41:19.840 Doing business

00:41:20.780 With U.S. ICE

00:41:22.560 So they had both

00:41:23.880 Of these kind of

00:41:24.880 Two different ideas

00:41:26.220 But both relating

00:41:27.120 To migrants

00:41:27.840 Both relating

00:41:29.100 To immigration

00:41:29.760 And they staged

00:41:32.600 A die-in

00:41:33.380 Demonstration

00:41:34.180 People

00:41:34.580 A handful of people

00:41:35.800 Laid on the sidewalk

00:41:36.760 While they read out

00:41:37.560 Names of

00:41:38.240 Individuals killed

00:41:40.160 In immigration

00:41:41.320 Custody

00:41:42.320 Or by immigration

00:41:43.260 Officers

00:41:43.960 And then just

00:41:45.140 At the very end

00:41:45.980 Of the

00:41:46.500 Demonstration

00:41:48.840 They were putting up

00:41:50.160 Flyers on private property

00:41:51.500 Police said

00:41:52.080 No you can't do that

00:41:53.120 Started removing

00:41:54.060 The flyers

00:41:54.820 They continued

00:41:55.680 Putting up flyers

00:41:56.800 And it led to

00:41:58.580 A pretty violent

00:41:59.620 Scuffle with police

00:42:00.940 And one of the

00:42:02.140 Individuals

00:42:03.200 Who was arrested

00:42:04.180 On scene

00:42:04.780 Syed Hussan

00:42:05.700 Who is

00:42:06.820 An executive director

00:42:08.360 With the

00:42:09.000 Migrant

00:42:09.900 Alliance

00:42:11.100 Migrant Workers

00:42:12.600 Alliance for Change

00:42:13.940 There's a broader

00:42:14.880 Network

00:42:15.400 He actually

00:42:16.680 Has been on the

00:42:17.460 Activist scene

00:42:18.300 In Toronto

00:42:18.780 For almost

00:42:19.700 Two decades

00:42:20.440 Dating back

00:42:22.120 Even to

00:42:23.180 Police

00:42:24.760 Accused him

00:42:25.340 Of being a ringleader

00:42:26.160 Of violence

00:42:27.000 In the G20

00:42:28.300 And he was

00:42:29.840 Taking

00:42:30.280 Swings

00:42:31.140 At an officer

00:42:32.060 Or

00:42:32.480 I mean

00:42:32.960 It's captured

00:42:33.400 On camera

00:42:33.980 So

00:42:34.420 There was

00:42:36.080 Absolutely

00:42:36.700 A push

00:42:37.560 And pull

00:42:37.980 And he's

00:42:38.300 Trying to

00:42:38.920 Or look to

00:42:39.760 Be

00:42:40.040 Trying to

00:42:41.100 De-arrest

00:42:41.960 One of his

00:42:42.500 Comrades

00:42:43.060 Meaning

00:42:43.440 Take them

00:42:44.360 Out of police

00:42:45.060 Custody

00:42:45.620 To prevent

00:42:46.340 An arrest

00:42:47.040 And you know

00:42:48.740 Police eventually

00:42:49.600 Subdued

00:42:50.340 Him

00:42:51.040 And a couple

00:42:51.840 Of other

00:42:52.440 Protesters

00:42:53.520 Haven't seen

00:42:54.760 A press release

00:42:55.600 About this yet

00:42:56.600 But absolutely

00:42:58.580 That marked

00:42:59.160 An escalation

00:43:00.060 Along the

00:43:01.380 Same lines

00:43:02.020 Of kind of

00:43:02.980 What I've

00:43:03.540 Been warning

00:43:04.660 About

00:43:05.020 And it's

00:43:05.360 Not the

00:43:06.060 First time

00:43:06.840 There's been

00:43:07.480 Scuffles with

00:43:08.180 Police

00:43:08.520 It's not the

00:43:08.940 First time

00:43:09.600 There's been

00:43:10.400 An attempt

00:43:10.900 To de-arrest

00:43:12.240 But what's

00:43:13.380 Notable

00:43:13.780 Is at the

00:43:14.620 Start of

00:43:15.340 This

00:43:15.780 Rally

00:43:17.360 Some of

00:43:18.540 The language

00:43:19.060 And rhetoric

00:43:19.560 Was you know

00:43:20.500 Are you ready

00:43:21.120 To be part

00:43:21.900 Of the

00:43:22.160 Resistance

00:43:22.560 Are you ready

00:43:23.120 To put

00:43:23.500 Yourself

00:43:24.000 On the

00:43:24.720 Line

00:43:25.080 To do

00:43:25.480 Whatever

00:43:25.820 It takes

00:43:26.500 And then

00:43:27.260 That manifested

00:43:27.980 In a very

00:43:28.620 Real way

00:43:29.480 And you know

00:43:31.180 We also

00:43:31.760 Saw in the

00:43:32.700 Aftermath

00:43:33.380 An attempt

00:43:34.480 To portray

00:43:35.220 This as

00:43:35.940 An incident

00:43:36.820 Of police

00:43:37.640 Brutality

00:43:38.400 Police

00:43:38.860 Violence

00:43:39.420 We got

00:43:41.400 Footage

00:43:42.360 Of another

00:43:43.520 Organizer

00:43:44.340 Part of the

00:43:45.040 Indigo

00:43:45.480 11

00:43:46.180 And a

00:43:47.460 Long time

00:43:48.080 Legal observer

00:43:48.960 Telling the

00:43:50.320 Protesters

00:43:51.040 You know

00:43:51.560 Don't post

00:43:52.260 Anything prior

00:43:53.060 To the

00:43:53.480 Arrest

00:43:54.020 Attempting

00:43:55.160 Their own

00:43:55.700 Narrative

00:43:56.280 Control

00:43:57.000 So that

00:43:57.760 They could

00:43:58.400 Again frame

00:43:59.320 This as

00:44:00.120 Police brutality

00:44:01.540 Which objectively

00:44:02.320 It was not

00:44:03.140 You know

00:44:04.860 So yes

00:44:05.600 Like this

00:44:06.240 Is

00:44:06.620 And some

00:44:08.280 Of those

00:44:08.700 People were

00:44:09.340 At the

00:44:09.920 Hands-off

00:44:10.440 Iran rally

00:44:11.120 So to tie

00:44:12.300 It all

00:44:12.540 Together

00:44:12.960 With a

00:44:13.540 Bow

00:44:13.820 This is

00:44:15.180 An ongoing

00:44:15.860 Issue

00:44:16.380 In Toronto

00:44:16.920 And for

00:44:17.380 As long

00:44:17.820 As police

00:44:18.940 Merely

00:44:19.400 Treat this

00:44:20.340 As crowd

00:44:20.880 Control

00:44:21.380 You know

00:44:22.840 These

00:44:23.340 Organizers

00:44:25.420 These activists

00:44:26.200 Who are

00:44:26.740 Actively

00:44:27.220 Organizing

00:44:28.060 Will

00:44:29.200 I think

00:44:29.760 Continue to

00:44:30.380 Try and

00:44:30.760 Undermine

00:44:31.380 Peace

00:44:33.000 And order

00:44:33.920 And that

00:44:35.340 Is the

00:44:35.820 Point I

00:44:36.280 Make in

00:44:36.620 My book

00:44:36.920 It feels

00:44:37.200 Like a

00:44:37.480 Million years

00:44:37.920 Ago

00:44:38.140 My book

00:44:38.760 Started to

00:44:39.300 Be released

00:44:40.160 This week

00:44:41.220 In e-book

00:44:42.100 Form

00:44:42.400 And it

00:44:42.660 Feels like

00:44:43.160 Like literally

00:44:44.140 A hundred

00:44:44.520 Years ago

00:44:45.100 But you're

00:44:45.480 A big part

00:44:45.940 Of that

00:44:46.200 Book

00:44:46.440 And the

00:44:47.160 Documentary

00:44:47.980 Upon which

00:44:49.180 It is

00:44:49.520 Based

00:44:49.820 Which will

00:44:50.200 Be out

00:44:50.580 Soon

00:44:51.000 So

00:44:52.560 Thank you

00:44:53.660 So much

00:44:54.100 For

00:44:54.660 You know

00:44:56.100 Tying a

00:44:56.600 Bow on it

00:44:57.020 And stitching

00:44:57.480 It all

00:44:57.880 Together

00:44:58.200 For us

00:44:58.620 Because

00:44:58.820 I think

00:44:59.340 For a lot

00:44:59.700 Of people

00:45:00.060 It's very

00:45:01.020 Confusing

00:45:01.660 To watch

00:45:02.200 This stuff

00:45:02.620 From the

00:45:02.920 Outside

00:45:03.220 So we're

00:45:04.020 Grateful for

00:45:04.540 Your insight

00:45:05.000 And your

00:45:05.260 Wisdom

00:45:05.600 Have a

00:45:06.240 Wonderful

00:45:06.540 Day

00:45:06.780 And a

00:45:06.980 Wonderful

00:45:07.220 Week

00:45:07.580 I

00:45:08.520 I

00:45:08.540 I

00:45:22.660 Ran

00:45:23.040 At the

00:45:23.480 Wrong

00:45:23.880 Time

00:45:24.680 Something

00:45:26.040 Lost

00:45:26.560 In

00:45:26.800 Your

00:45:27.060 Changing

00:45:27.640 Styles

00:45:28.280 And you

00:45:28.740 Say

00:45:29.220 It's not

00:45:32.080 Me

00:45:32.860 But it's

00:45:36.820 A good

00:45:37.780 Side

00:45:38.700 Talking

00:45:40.020 Over

00:45:40.600 Like a friend

00:45:41.600 Of mine

00:45:42.220 And I

00:45:42.620 Squeeze

00:45:43.400 I can't

00:45:46.060 Squeeze

00:45:46.980 I

00:45:49.440 Think

00:45:49.940 Of

00:45:50.420 You

00:45:50.940 I

00:45:51.260 Cry

00:45:51.760 I

00:45:52.380 Think

00:45:53.360 Of

00:45:53.980 You

00:45:54.420 Cry

00:45:55.260 I

00:45:56.120 Think

00:45:56.960 Of

00:45:57.460 You

00:45:57.860 I

00:45:58.120 Cry

00:45:58.720 I

00:46:00.860 Don't

00:46:01.160 Want to

00:46:01.600 Get

00:46:01.860 My

00:46:02.360 Down

00:46:03.120 No

00:46:03.560 No

00:46:04.160 No

00:46:06.980 No

00:46:07.980 No

00:46:08.980 No

00:46:10.980 Saturday

00:46:11.600 Was

00:46:12.040 A sick

00:46:12.600 Child

00:46:13.480 Never

00:46:14.740 Believed

00:46:15.520 In

00:46:15.740 A

00:46:15.940 Men

00:46:16.220 Strong

00:46:16.920 So

00:46:17.220 See

00:46:17.500 It

00:46:17.760 In

00:46:18.200 My

00:46:20.760 Sleep

00:46:21.580 And I

00:46:25.360 Don't

00:46:25.520 Need

00:46:25.900 To

00:46:26.340 Pass

00:46:26.720 It

00:46:27.040 And

00:46:27.920 Let

00:46:28.600 Me

00:46:28.960 Want

00:46:29.340 To

00:46:29.780 Tell

00:46:30.300 It

00:46:30.580 Is

00:46:30.960 What

00:46:31.160 You

00:46:31.360 Say

00:46:31.980 How

00:46:34.380 I

00:46:34.740 Believe

00:46:35.520 Cause

00:46:38.120 You

00:46:38.280 Think

00:46:38.600 Of

00:46:39.180 You

00:46:39.460 Are

00:46:39.840 Comparin

00:46:40.960 When

00:46:41.580 I

00:46:41.780 Think

00:46:42.040 Of

00:46:42.580 You

00:46:43.120 Are

00:46:43.380 Comparin

00:46:44.760 When

00:46:45.080 I

00:46:45.280 Think

00:46:45.640 You

00:46:46.380 Don't

00:46:46.780 Forget

00:46:47.380 I

00:46:49.600 Don't

00:46:49.840 Want

00:46:50.120 To

00:46:50.240 Get

00:46:50.540 Old

00:46:51.180 I

00:46:55.920 Can

00:46:56.320 I

00:47:00.020 Can

00:47:00.560 Stop

00:47:01.180 I

00:47:03.920 Can

00:47:04.500 Stop

00:47:04.920 Never

00:47:05.020 Let

00:47:05.260 Stop

00:47:05.860 That

00:47:06.300 I

00:47:07.000 Can

00:47:07.400 Stop

00:47:08.140 If

00:47:11.760 You

00:47:11.860 Think

00:47:12.240 You

00:47:12.440 Lost

00:47:12.860 That

00:47:13.420 I

00:47:14.000 Can

00:47:14.400 Stop

00:47:45.100 Asked what was your mind

00:47:47.420 Cause you'd love

00:47:48.480 Didn't anyone see

00:47:51.380 Cause I think

00:47:55.180 I'm alright

00:47:57.100 And I think I'm

00:47:59.100 Alright

00:48:01.100 But I think I've got you

00:48:03.040 Don't forget it

00:48:04.540 I don't want to get

00:48:07.020 Older

00:48:08.300 Oh

00:48:08.780 I can't stop

00:48:17.980 Never

00:48:21.440 It's not dead

00:48:22.840 I can't stop

00:48:24.780 If you think I'm lost

00:48:29.380 I can't stop

00:48:31.780 Don't you

00:48:35.700 I can't stop

00:48:38.300 Don't you

00:48:39.020 Close the door

00:48:40.920 Never

00:48:42.300 It's not dead

00:48:43.780 I can't stop

00:48:45.500 If you think I'm lost

00:48:50.220 I can't stop

00:48:52.500 Don't you

00:48:56.500 Close the door

00:48:58.080 I can't stop

00:49:02.660 Don't you

00:49:03.500 Close the door

00:49:05.040 I can't stop

00:49:06.500 All right

00:49:11.500 We've got lots to get through

00:49:12.360 Lots of talkers

00:49:13.440 So let us do some talking

00:49:14.920 We've got Eric Hamm

00:49:15.760 Economics professor

00:49:16.840 Over at TMU

00:49:18.460 Which will always be

00:49:19.300 Ryerson to me

00:49:20.560 Mr. Warren Kinsella

00:49:21.980 President of Daisy Group

00:49:23.240 Former strategist

00:49:24.500 For a guy named

00:49:25.200 Jean Chrétien

00:49:25.920 Author

00:49:26.400 Of The Hidden Hand

00:49:28.140 The Information War

00:49:29.080 And the Rise of

00:49:29.680 Anti-Semitic Propaganda

00:49:31.280 Which by chance

00:49:32.900 Comes out on e-book

00:49:34.240 Today

00:49:34.560 The hardcover

00:49:35.140 Comes in April

00:49:35.860 Congratulations

00:49:36.540 That is a

00:49:37.500 Two years of

00:49:39.160 I have to think

00:49:40.220 Warren that was a tough

00:49:40.960 One to write

00:49:41.460 It was

00:49:42.940 It's an unpleasant

00:49:44.140 Subject

00:49:44.800 About this

00:49:46.500 Propaganda war

00:49:47.740 Against Jews

00:49:49.400 And the Jewish state

00:49:50.340 In the West

00:49:50.980 But I thought

00:49:52.840 It was an important

00:49:53.540 One to get out there

00:49:55.300 And so

00:49:55.780 And we've also

00:49:56.440 Got a documentary

00:49:57.120 Coming out

00:49:57.700 Alex

00:49:58.060 That I think

00:49:58.960 I mentioned to you

00:49:59.620 Before

00:49:59.900 Called The Campaign

00:50:00.780 About the same subject

00:50:01.680 And that's going to

00:50:02.240 Get a global release

00:50:03.360 Sometime in the next

00:50:04.620 Few weeks as well

00:50:05.460 So

00:50:05.920 We're going to be

00:50:07.460 Talking a lot

00:50:07.940 About the subject

00:50:08.540 And getting people

00:50:09.300 To pay attention

00:50:10.000 To this propaganda war

00:50:11.240 Yeah well maybe

00:50:11.800 We can premiere it

00:50:12.580 At TMU University

00:50:13.900 Eric

00:50:14.420 No not a chance

00:50:16.440 But I do

00:50:17.040 On that topic

00:50:17.760 I do want to say

00:50:18.620 And I don't want to

00:50:19.120 Hijack your show

00:50:20.180 Number one

00:50:20.960 I of course

00:50:21.760 Will be buying that book

00:50:23.380 And maybe more important

00:50:25.100 I rarely speak

00:50:26.740 On behalf of the

00:50:27.680 Jewish community

00:50:28.400 But Warren

00:50:29.100 Honest to God

00:50:30.280 Thank you so much

00:50:31.180 For your unwavering support

00:50:32.720 We know we can't rely

00:50:33.840 On many people

00:50:34.600 But we've never

00:50:35.540 Had a doubt about you

00:50:36.520 Thanks man

00:50:37.800 It is

00:50:38.220 Because again

00:50:38.940 When you write a book

00:50:39.580 Like this

00:50:40.020 You're taking on

00:50:40.740 Not just

00:50:41.300 Exposing a tough subject

00:50:43.480 I have to think

00:50:44.680 It's been relentless

00:50:45.660 In its

00:50:46.400 I mean you're great

00:50:47.300 With the F-offs

00:50:48.060 But you've got to

00:50:48.700 Have a pretty hard

00:50:49.360 Spine to be

00:50:50.700 Doing this

00:50:51.540 Because I know

00:50:51.880 You take a lot of heat

00:50:52.760 From a lot of

00:50:53.860 Suspects out there

00:50:55.120 So kudos to you

00:50:57.020 It does I think

00:50:58.220 Come into play

00:50:59.360 In our first topic

00:51:00.500 Because as

00:51:01.020 We sent our topics

00:51:02.440 Out to you

00:51:02.980 You know

00:51:03.260 ChatGPT

00:51:04.320 I guess

00:51:04.700 They're in

00:51:05.400 Ottawa today

00:51:06.440 The company

00:51:07.000 That runs it

00:51:08.340 Is in Ottawa today

00:51:09.460 Where they're going

00:51:09.880 To be questioned

00:51:10.500 About what they knew

00:51:11.480 When when it came

00:51:12.480 To the

00:51:13.060 You know

00:51:13.880 Tumble Ridge

00:51:14.620 Shooter

00:51:16.300 You know

00:51:16.640 Apparently

00:51:17.000 They had

00:51:17.480 The Tumble Ridge

00:51:18.280 Mass shooter

00:51:19.220 Had made comments

00:51:20.080 On its site

00:51:20.840 Seven months earlier

00:51:21.940 And that didn't

00:51:23.060 Come out

00:51:23.560 Until after

00:51:24.760 You know

00:51:25.620 A number of people

00:51:26.580 Were killed

00:51:27.000 In this mass shooting

00:51:27.940 And so

00:51:29.060 You've got guys

00:51:29.760 Like Premier Eby

00:51:30.600 Saying well

00:51:31.120 You know

00:51:31.360 This could have

00:51:31.860 Been thwarted

00:51:32.500 This could have

00:51:33.000 Been avoided

00:51:33.540 Now you've got

00:51:34.100 Evan Solomon

00:51:34.780 Out there

00:51:35.280 Today saying

00:51:36.120 Or you know

00:51:36.560 Last night

00:51:37.300 Saying look

00:51:38.180 Nothing's off

00:51:39.400 The table

00:51:39.760 We will regulate

00:51:40.920 Take a listen

00:51:41.520 Canadians expect

00:51:45.640 First of all

00:51:47.120 That their children

00:51:47.820 Particularly

00:51:48.520 And are kept safe

00:51:50.700 And that these

00:51:52.020 Organizations act

00:51:52.940 In a responsible

00:51:53.560 Manner

00:51:53.920 And I'm going to

00:51:54.920 Working closely

00:51:55.620 With public safety

00:51:57.000 The justice minister

00:51:58.040 And heritage minister

00:51:58.840 And the bill

00:51:59.840 On privacy and data

00:52:00.980 That we have

00:52:01.840 Forthcoming

00:52:02.460 To make sure

00:52:03.900 That Canadians

00:52:04.780 Are kept safe

00:52:05.660 I will tell you

00:52:06.820 This all options

00:52:08.060 Are on the table

00:52:08.740 Sounds like

00:52:10.260 A soundbite

00:52:11.040 If I've ever

00:52:11.500 Heard one

00:52:12.060 Warren

00:52:12.700 And I get

00:52:13.380 That you know

00:52:14.220 They want to

00:52:14.720 Look like

00:52:15.260 That they're

00:52:15.580 Going to be

00:52:15.860 Doing something

00:52:16.380 Great for people

00:52:16.960 I don't really

00:52:17.760 Know how

00:52:18.420 They're going

00:52:18.900 To regulate

00:52:19.360 A company

00:52:19.760 Like this

00:52:20.280 It's in the

00:52:20.640 United States

00:52:21.320 But I also

00:52:21.960 Look at this

00:52:22.480 And I say

00:52:22.840 Well hold on

00:52:23.320 A second

00:52:23.560 The RCMP

00:52:24.120 Had a lot

00:52:24.780 Of warnings

00:52:25.220 About this

00:52:25.800 Shooter

00:52:26.800 And missed

00:52:27.540 A whole lot

00:52:28.160 Of red flags

00:52:28.880 On this

00:52:29.380 And so

00:52:29.820 Look

00:52:30.460 Could chat

00:52:30.960 GBT

00:52:31.420 Or a social

00:52:32.060 Media company

00:52:32.540 Do more

00:52:33.180 Sure

00:52:33.900 But their

00:52:34.860 Defense is

00:52:35.460 Well we didn't

00:52:35.960 Have a specific

00:52:36.940 Right and they

00:52:37.820 Probably hear

00:52:38.520 More smut

00:52:39.420 In a day

00:52:39.880 You know

00:52:40.940 Than they can

00:52:41.760 Count

00:52:42.200 But you say

00:52:43.600 What on this

00:52:44.300 I mean what I

00:52:46.380 Know about the

00:52:46.920 Story is that

00:52:47.940 The people

00:52:49.260 At chat

00:52:49.720 GBT

00:52:50.300 Had an internal

00:52:51.560 Debate about

00:52:52.360 This and some

00:52:53.380 Of them did

00:52:53.860 Want to go to

00:52:54.380 The police

00:52:54.860 And others

00:52:55.820 Said you know

00:52:56.940 It's not our

00:52:57.660 Fight or it's

00:52:58.340 Not our issue

00:52:59.060 Or not yet

00:53:00.520 And it doesn't

00:53:01.480 Matter if they're

00:53:02.040 In a different

00:53:02.540 Jurisdiction you

00:53:03.540 Know their company

00:53:04.180 Operates here

00:53:05.000 Now what Solomon

00:53:06.220 Has done

00:53:06.880 It's interesting

00:53:07.620 He's acknowledged

00:53:09.260 He doesn't have

00:53:10.140 Legal authority

00:53:11.240 Over chat

00:53:12.080 GBT

00:53:12.720 So they're

00:53:13.580 Talking about

00:53:14.280 Issuing something

00:53:15.180 That is extraordinary

00:53:16.400 The house of

00:53:18.020 Commons issuing

00:53:18.800 A summons

00:53:19.620 To these people

00:53:20.860 If they ever

00:53:21.480 Set foot into

00:53:22.160 Canada

00:53:22.620 They would

00:53:23.560 In fact be

00:53:24.440 You know

00:53:24.980 Compelled

00:53:25.680 To appear

00:53:26.700 Before

00:53:27.280 The house of

00:53:29.080 Commons

00:53:29.460 And answer

00:53:30.320 Questions

00:53:30.840 And answer

00:53:31.420 Concerns

00:53:32.240 If Canadians

00:53:33.200 Ignore

00:53:33.900 That kind

00:53:34.720 Of summons

00:53:35.260 You can

00:53:35.580 Go to jail

00:53:36.100 And that's

00:53:37.220 Something that

00:53:37.560 Hasn't happened

00:53:37.980 Very often

00:53:38.460 But I think

00:53:38.980 The government

00:53:39.860 Is treating

00:53:40.960 This seriously

00:53:41.720 Because you

00:53:42.780 Know these

00:53:43.160 Guys were

00:53:43.580 Sitting there

00:53:44.020 Talking about

00:53:44.840 This thing

00:53:45.220 Ahead of time

00:53:45.940 They had a

00:53:46.820 Warning

00:53:47.160 And they

00:53:47.980 Didn't do

00:53:48.260 Anything about

00:53:48.700 It

00:53:48.860 And the

00:53:49.140 RCMP of

00:53:49.820 Course as you

00:53:50.300 Point out

00:53:50.840 Also problematic

00:53:52.420 Why the arms

00:53:54.020 Were ever given

00:53:54.720 Brought back

00:53:55.540 Into that

00:53:56.300 That household

00:53:57.120 When they knew

00:53:57.760 There was a

00:53:58.240 Problem in that

00:53:58.960 Household

00:53:59.460 Is something

00:54:00.300 That I think

00:54:01.140 We still are

00:54:01.760 Waiting for

00:54:02.220 Answers on

00:54:02.840 Yeah and

00:54:03.420 We'll be

00:54:03.640 Waiting for

00:54:04.000 A long

00:54:04.260 Time

00:54:04.560 Because the

00:54:05.980 Bottom line

00:54:06.300 Is we

00:54:06.740 Don't have

00:54:07.060 A lot of

00:54:07.360 Transparency

00:54:07.920 In our

00:54:08.220 Own country

00:54:08.780 On this

00:54:09.240 Kind of

00:54:09.600 Stuff

00:54:09.940 And you

00:54:10.840 Know the

00:54:11.440 RCMP are

00:54:12.260 Very good

00:54:13.440 At not

00:54:13.780 Saying much

00:54:14.460 But can

00:54:15.340 We regulate

00:54:16.000 Our way

00:54:16.460 Out of this

00:54:16.780 I don't

00:54:17.240 Think we

00:54:17.760 Can regulate

00:54:18.280 Our way

00:54:18.720 Out of

00:54:19.060 This

00:54:19.340 I think

00:54:20.640 It's a

00:54:20.940 Too little

00:54:21.260 Too late

00:54:21.720 But how

00:54:22.280 Do you

00:54:22.580 See this

00:54:23.080 Well first

00:54:24.180 Of all

00:54:24.480 Evan

00:54:24.700 Solomon

00:54:25.060 Can say

00:54:25.460 What he

00:54:25.680 Wants

00:54:25.980 Because right

00:54:26.440 Now he's

00:54:26.820 Irrelevant

00:54:27.320 But number

00:54:28.780 Two

00:54:29.140 Right

00:54:29.460 What this

00:54:29.920 Is doing

00:54:30.320 Is it's

00:54:30.660 Kind of

00:54:30.900 Putting on

00:54:31.280 Steroids

00:54:31.840 The whole

00:54:32.180 Argument

00:54:32.620 Of should

00:54:33.800 We regulate

00:54:34.440 The internet

00:54:35.280 And you

00:54:36.120 Know it's

00:54:36.440 A tough

00:54:36.720 Question and

00:54:37.300 I hate

00:54:37.620 To waffle

00:54:38.180 Because I

00:54:39.000 Believe in

00:54:39.400 Protecting

00:54:39.820 People from

00:54:40.320 Harm I

00:54:40.780 Believe in

00:54:41.200 Public safety

00:54:41.840 I believe in

00:54:42.380 Consumer

00:54:42.700 Protection yet

00:54:43.820 I also

00:54:44.200 Believe in

00:54:44.800 Free speech

00:54:46.260 And I also

00:54:47.000 Know that

00:54:47.440 Because of

00:54:48.260 The internet

00:54:48.780 You know this

00:54:49.420 Country is

00:54:49.920 Desperate for

00:54:50.520 Some research

00:54:51.180 And development

00:54:51.940 And competition

00:54:52.760 And you

00:54:54.160 Know if you

00:54:54.580 Over regulate

00:54:55.280 You're going

00:54:55.780 To shut down

00:54:56.580 Or slow down

00:54:57.460 The innovation

00:54:58.500 That comes

00:54:59.400 From such

00:55:00.020 Things

00:55:00.420 So I

00:55:01.260 Hate to

00:55:01.680 Waffle

00:55:02.120 I also

00:55:02.840 Hate when

00:55:03.440 Young people

00:55:04.220 Are senselessly

00:55:05.500 Murdered

00:55:05.980 So to be

00:55:06.680 Blunt one of

00:55:07.240 The few

00:55:07.480 Times I

00:55:08.220 Don't know

00:55:08.600 Where I

00:55:08.960 Am on

00:55:09.360 This but

00:55:10.020 I know

00:55:10.480 I know

00:55:11.120 That this

00:55:12.540 Has to be

00:55:12.960 Nuanced and

00:55:13.880 This has to

00:55:14.320 Be researched

00:55:14.840 And this

00:55:15.140 Can't just

00:55:15.560 Be silly

00:55:16.460 Off the

00:55:17.000 Cuff

00:55:17.300 Comments

00:55:18.080 Like Evan

00:55:18.840 Made

00:55:19.160 Yeah it's

00:55:20.540 Again I

00:55:20.880 Think there's

00:55:21.180 A lot of

00:55:21.560 Fault all

00:55:22.600 Over the

00:55:23.000 Place I

00:55:23.440 Think there

00:55:23.680 Can be more

00:55:24.080 Than one

00:55:24.620 Particular

00:55:25.100 Red flag I

00:55:25.760 Just wish

00:55:26.100 They would

00:55:26.380 Pay attention

00:55:26.940 To them

00:55:27.300 I won't get

00:55:28.200 Both of your

00:55:28.820 Answers in but

00:55:29.320 We'll certainly

00:55:29.760 Make room for it

00:55:31.080 On the other

00:55:31.360 Side of the

00:55:31.700 Break

00:55:31.940 But Mark

00:55:32.900 Carney out

00:55:33.360 Today saying

00:55:34.380 Yet again

00:55:35.040 Ukraine is

00:55:36.300 Going to get

00:55:36.640 Billions more

00:55:37.480 Including more

00:55:38.440 Equipment

00:55:39.200 And today I

00:55:39.940 Should say

00:55:40.260 Marks the

00:55:40.820 Anniversary of

00:55:41.540 Four years

00:55:42.160 Since Russia

00:55:42.820 Attacked that

00:55:43.480 Country

00:55:43.760 Take a

00:55:44.100 Listen

00:55:44.300 Two billion

00:55:45.020 Two billion

00:55:45.040 Dollars of

00:55:45.680 Additional

00:55:46.160 Aid

00:55:46.520 Military

00:55:47.520 Aid for

00:55:48.180 Ukraine

00:55:48.680 Over the

00:55:49.420 Course of

00:55:49.820 The next

00:55:50.120 Year

00:55:50.340 We're

00:55:51.080 Announcing

00:55:51.460 That today

00:55:51.960 The

00:55:52.160 Minister of

00:55:52.540 National

00:55:52.800 Defense

00:55:53.180 Will give

00:55:53.480 Details

00:55:53.940 In addition

00:55:54.940 To that

00:55:55.460 Something

00:55:55.980 Ukraine

00:55:56.420 Needs

00:55:56.840 Which is

00:55:57.920 400

00:55:58.340 Armored

00:55:59.060 Vehicles

00:55:59.520 We'll be

00:56:00.000 Supplying

00:56:00.420 Those

00:56:00.700 In

00:56:01.000 Kind

00:56:01.360 You know

00:56:03.240 Warren

00:56:03.920 We keep

00:56:04.920 Making

00:56:05.200 Funding

00:56:05.660 Announcements

00:56:06.280 In this

00:56:06.660 Country

00:56:06.940 And we

00:56:07.380 Have been

00:56:07.760 Very

00:56:08.160 Very

00:56:08.720 Supportive

00:56:10.300 Of Ukraine

00:56:10.780 But at

00:56:11.600 Some

00:56:11.880 Point

00:56:12.300 There's

00:56:12.900 Not a

00:56:13.160 Real

00:56:13.300 Plan

00:56:13.660 And we

00:56:13.900 Just keep

00:56:14.280 Announcing

00:56:14.640 Money

00:56:15.000 How do

00:56:15.360 You see

00:56:15.600 This

00:56:15.920 Well it's

00:56:17.540 A war

00:56:17.900 Right

00:56:18.400 And we're

00:56:18.780 Now in

00:56:19.300 Four years

00:56:19.980 Into this

00:56:20.660 Terrible

00:56:21.100 War

00:56:21.520 Where you

00:56:23.040 Know we

00:56:23.320 Are told

00:56:23.960 Reliably

00:56:24.840 That actual

00:56:25.780 Millions of

00:56:26.640 Lives have

00:56:27.060 Been lost

00:56:27.560 Mainly

00:56:28.000 On the

00:56:28.320 Russian

00:56:28.580 Side

00:56:29.000 But the

00:56:29.760 Other thing

00:56:30.100 That we're

00:56:30.360 Hearing

00:56:30.720 And you

00:56:31.080 Know

00:56:31.220 This was

00:56:31.940 Reported

00:56:32.420 Extensively

00:56:33.140 In the

00:56:33.320 New York

00:56:33.520 Times

00:56:33.800 On the

00:56:34.040 Weekend

00:56:34.560 Ukraine

00:56:35.500 For the

00:56:36.100 First time

00:56:36.560 In a

00:56:36.760 Long time

00:56:37.200 Is winning

00:56:37.760 This war

00:56:38.460 And what's

00:56:39.440 Extraordinary

00:56:40.100 If you read

00:56:40.680 The reporting

00:56:41.360 That took

00:56:41.780 Place over

00:56:42.280 The weekend

00:56:42.800 Is they're

00:56:43.500 Winning it

00:56:43.900 Because of

00:56:44.280 Drones

00:56:44.720 They're winning

00:56:45.180 It because

00:56:45.700 Of the

00:56:46.000 Type of

00:56:46.500 Equipment

00:56:47.040 That Arnie

00:56:47.420 Is talking

00:56:47.840 About funding

00:56:48.580 Like they

00:56:49.720 Are wiping

00:56:51.460 Out Russians

00:56:52.280 At the

00:56:52.600 Frontline

00:56:53.140 And they're

00:56:53.500 Recapturing

00:56:54.240 Territory

00:56:54.860 That they

00:56:55.540 Lost to

00:56:56.180 The Russians

00:56:56.620 Over the

00:56:57.060 Past four

00:56:57.560 Years

00:56:58.000 So I

00:56:58.880 Mean this

00:56:59.220 The thing

00:57:00.000 That's

00:57:00.340 Amazing

00:57:00.960 And this

00:57:01.340 Is modern

00:57:02.360 Warfare

00:57:02.860 Is changing

00:57:03.560 In this

00:57:04.720 War

00:57:05.080 Future wars

00:57:06.220 Are going

00:57:06.520 To be

00:57:06.740 Fought

00:57:06.960 Differently

00:57:07.500 Because of

00:57:08.360 What we're

00:57:08.720 Learning about

00:57:09.380 The war

00:57:09.880 Between Russia

00:57:10.820 And Ukraine

00:57:11.460 But the

00:57:12.100 Good news

00:57:12.520 Is Ukraine

00:57:13.340 Seems to be

00:57:14.280 Inch by

00:57:14.760 Inch

00:57:15.220 Winning

00:57:15.820 And part

00:57:17.300 Of the

00:57:17.500 You know

00:57:17.940 And I

00:57:18.280 Applaud

00:57:18.800 The fact

00:57:19.680 That all

00:57:20.160 Of our

00:57:20.380 Parlementarians

00:57:21.160 In all

00:57:21.660 Of the

00:57:21.880 Parties

00:57:22.240 Support

00:57:22.820 Are giving

00:57:24.880 Giving support

00:57:25.320 To Ukraine

00:57:25.960 And it

00:57:26.700 Seems to

00:57:27.260 Be working

00:57:27.720 Well

00:57:28.540 25 billion

00:57:29.760 And plus

00:57:30.340 Another 2

00:57:30.840 Billion

00:57:31.260 Eric

00:57:31.660 You see

00:57:32.280 You see

00:57:32.700 What on

00:57:33.000 This one

00:57:33.300 Well I

00:57:35.120 Mean

00:57:35.360 Warren's

00:57:35.960 Right

00:57:36.160 This is a

00:57:37.100 Geopolitical

00:57:38.000 Positioning

00:57:38.760 Right

00:57:39.060 Whether Canada

00:57:39.880 Is trying to

00:57:40.380 Reinforce

00:57:40.840 Its role

00:57:41.280 In NATO

00:57:41.820 Or make a

00:57:43.060 Statement about

00:57:43.700 Transatlantic

00:57:44.520 Security

00:57:45.080 I think

00:57:45.860 Canada

00:57:46.280 Wants to

00:57:46.880 Be on

00:57:47.240 The right

00:57:47.520 Side of

00:57:47.880 History

00:57:48.280 On this

00:57:49.180 One

00:57:49.460 And so

00:57:49.960 They sure

00:57:50.340 As hell

00:57:50.600 Aren't going

00:57:50.880 To come

00:57:51.160 Down

00:57:51.520 Pro

00:57:52.220 Pro

00:57:52.820 Putin

00:57:53.060 So I

00:57:53.740 Understand

00:57:54.100 Why they

00:57:54.540 Did this

00:57:54.920 It actually

00:57:55.340 Makes good

00:57:55.920 Sense

00:57:56.280 As an

00:57:57.060 Economist

00:57:57.680 I will

00:57:58.060 Understand

00:57:58.560 Though

00:57:58.860 If some

00:57:59.540 Voters

00:57:59.860 Out there

00:58:00.200 Question the

00:58:00.700 Trade-offs

00:58:01.160 Between

00:58:01.520 Foreign

00:58:01.860 Military

00:58:02.280 Aid

00:58:02.720 And domestic

00:58:03.500 Spending

00:58:03.960 Priorities

00:58:04.540 Right

00:58:04.780 This doesn't

00:58:05.260 Make our

00:58:05.620 Health care

00:58:06.180 Or

00:58:06.420 Infrastructure

00:58:07.060 Any less

00:58:08.000 Unstable

00:58:08.820 But you

00:58:09.880 Know as

00:58:10.200 Warren

00:58:10.440 Said

00:58:10.720 This is a

00:58:11.220 War

00:58:11.520 And we

00:58:12.180 Want to

00:58:12.600 Fight the

00:58:12.940 Good

00:58:13.100 Fight

00:58:13.400 And I

00:58:13.600 Guess

00:58:13.740 That's

00:58:13.940 What our

00:58:14.160 Parliament

00:58:14.500 Is intent

00:58:15.100 On doing

00:58:15.580 Yeah

00:58:16.040 And

00:58:16.340 Mentioning

00:58:17.000 Drones

00:58:17.320 Canada

00:58:18.020 Makes a

00:58:18.940 Lot of

00:58:19.200 Drones

00:58:19.460 And we

00:58:19.720 Have some

00:58:20.000 Amazing

00:58:20.400 Technology

00:58:21.380 To do

00:58:21.800 So

00:58:21.980 So I

00:58:22.500 Hope they

00:58:22.960 Can tap

00:58:23.340 More of

00:58:23.720 That

00:58:23.920 When we

00:58:24.560 Come back

00:58:25.120 We'll

00:58:25.580 Talk about

00:58:25.980 Nearly

00:58:26.220 Nine

00:58:26.500 In

00:58:26.660 Ten

00:58:26.940 Canadians

00:58:27.560 Due

00:58:27.880 To a

00:58:28.140 National

00:58:28.520 Report

00:58:29.060 Are

00:58:29.820 Completely

00:58:30.420 Trapped

00:58:31.060 By

00:58:31.680 Rising

00:58:32.040 Living

00:58:32.520 Costs

00:58:33.360 What

00:58:33.820 Is the

00:58:34.300 Political

00:58:34.580 Payment

00:58:35.100 Going to

00:58:35.720 Be

00:58:35.920 For

00:58:36.100 Mark

00:58:36.280 Carney

00:58:36.480 Who

00:58:36.660 Said

00:58:36.820 Judge

00:58:37.140 him

00:58:37.320 By

00:58:37.520 The

00:58:37.700 Cost

00:58:37.980 At

00:58:38.100 Your

00:58:38.220 Grocery

00:58:38.740 Store

00:58:38.960 We

00:58:39.120 Got

00:58:39.260 Warren

00:58:39.520 Kinsella

00:58:40.060 And Eric

00:58:40.840 Cam

00:58:41.060 Joining

00:58:41.300 Us

00:58:41.480 Here

00:58:41.620 Today

00:58:41.800 We'll

00:58:41.960 Kick

00:58:42.120 Off

00:58:42.340 On

00:58:42.480 That

00:58:42.720 Topic

00:58:43.120 In

00:58:43.620 Just

00:58:43.740 A

00:58:43.840 Couple

00:58:43.980 Of

00:58:44.100 Minutes

00:58:44.280 Here

00:58:44.460 On

00:58:44.740 The

00:58:44.820 Alex

00:58:45.020 Pearson

00:58:45.260 Show

00:58:45.520 Welcome

00:58:54.860 Back

00:58:55.460 To

00:58:55.740 Alex

00:58:56.180 Pearson

00:58:56.560 All right

00:58:57.280 Great

00:58:57.440 To

00:58:57.560 Have

00:58:57.680 You

00:58:57.780 Here

00:58:57.920 On

00:58:58.020 A

00:58:58.120 Cold

00:58:58.620 But

00:58:58.880 Sunny

00:58:59.620 Tuesday

00:59:00.180 We've

00:59:00.620 Got

00:59:00.720 Eric

00:59:01.000 Cam

00:59:01.420 From

00:59:02.240 TMU

00:59:02.700 And

00:59:02.900 Warren

00:59:03.260 Kinsella

00:59:03.780 Who

00:59:04.040 If you

00:59:04.520 Are

00:59:05.260 Looking

00:59:05.600 For

00:59:05.880 Something

00:59:06.120 To

00:59:06.340 Read

00:59:06.660 He's

00:59:06.840 Got

00:59:07.700 Out

00:59:07.960 On

00:59:08.120 Anti

00:59:08.460 Semitism

00:59:09.100 Propaganda

00:59:09.740 It's

00:59:09.880 Called

00:59:10.080 Hidden

00:59:10.740 Hand

00:59:11.260 And

00:59:11.540 It

00:59:11.640 Is

00:59:11.860 About

00:59:12.140 The

00:59:12.280 Information

00:59:12.660 War

00:59:12.880 And

00:59:12.960 The

00:59:13.040 Rise

00:59:13.220 Of

00:59:13.340 Anti

00:59:13.640 Semitic

00:59:14.320 Propaganda

00:59:14.900 And

00:59:15.080 That's

00:59:15.320 On

00:59:15.460 E-Book

00:59:15.860 The

00:59:16.060 Book

00:59:16.360 Is

00:59:16.720 Coming

00:59:16.960 Out

00:59:17.220 In

00:59:18.040 April

00:59:18.480 I

00:59:19.300 Want

00:59:19.460 To

00:59:19.540 Talk

00:59:19.740 About

00:59:19.920 This

00:59:20.160 Study

00:59:20.540 Because

00:59:21.140 It

00:59:21.520 Might

00:59:21.640 Not

00:59:21.800 Get

00:59:21.960 A

00:59:22.100 Lot

00:59:22.300 Of

00:59:22.440 The

00:59:22.520 Attention

00:59:22.880 But

00:59:23.060 This

00:59:23.240 Is

00:59:23.520 A

00:59:23.680 National

00:59:24.240 Study

00:59:24.780 Where

00:59:24.980 They

00:59:25.140 Found

00:59:25.780 That

00:59:25.940 Nine

00:59:26.340 In

00:59:26.660 Ten

00:59:26.960 Of

00:59:27.240 Us

00:59:27.580 Feeling

00:59:28.300 Very

00:59:28.580 Trapped

00:59:28.940 By

00:59:37.700 What

00:59:38.120 Happens

00:59:38.480 Next

00:59:38.700 With

00:59:38.820 That

00:59:38.920 Emergency

00:59:39.360 And

00:59:40.240 I

00:59:40.320 Think

00:59:40.480 You

00:59:40.780 Know

00:59:40.880 Eric

00:59:41.120 When

00:59:41.320 87%

00:59:42.240 Are

00:59:42.740 Saying

00:59:43.040 Like

00:59:43.260 We

00:59:43.500 Are

00:59:43.640 Now

00:59:43.820 Completely

00:59:44.200 Changing

00:59:44.740 How

00:59:44.940 We

00:59:45.100 Spend

00:59:45.340 Money

00:59:45.680 It's

00:59:45.920 Like

00:59:46.040 No

00:59:46.300 Trips

00:59:46.780 The

00:59:47.520 Grocery

00:59:48.000 Bills

00:59:48.280 Right

00:59:48.800 Politically

00:59:49.780 Mark

00:59:50.500 Carney

00:59:50.900 Did

00:59:51.400 Say

00:59:51.720 You

00:59:52.000 Know

00:59:52.100 I'll

00:59:52.360 Be

00:59:52.500 Judged

00:59:52.880 At

00:59:52.980 How

00:59:53.120 People

00:59:53.480 Feel

00:59:54.360 At

00:59:54.500 The

00:59:54.620 Grocery

00:59:55.040 Store

00:59:55.280 And

00:59:55.460 It's

00:59:55.640 Interesting

00:59:55.980 He's

00:59:56.220 Been

00:59:56.380 In

00:59:56.560 Power

00:59:56.820 Now

00:59:57.060 For

00:59:57.220 A

00:59:57.380 Year

00:59:57.660 It's

00:59:58.480 Not

00:59:58.680 Getting

00:59:58.960 Easier

00:59:59.320 For

00:59:59.500 The

00:59:59.640 Everyday

01:00:00.000 Yob

01:00:00.540 You

01:00:00.940 And

01:00:01.080 Me

01:00:01.300 You

01:00:01.860 And

01:00:02.000 Warren

01:00:02.300 And

01:00:03.320 Yet

01:00:03.600 He

01:00:03.980 Still

01:00:04.300 Is

01:00:04.480 Riding

01:00:04.720 High

01:00:04.980 In

01:00:05.080 The

01:00:05.200 Polls

01:00:05.620 But

01:00:05.760 What

01:00:06.100 Does

01:00:06.320 This

01:00:06.480 Say

01:00:06.620 To

01:00:06.740 You

01:00:06.840 As

01:00:06.960 The

01:00:07.080 Economist

01:00:07.680 Well

01:00:09.240 First

01:00:09.880 Of

01:00:10.020 What

01:00:10.220 Does

01:00:10.340 It

01:00:10.460 Say

01:00:10.580 To

01:00:10.720 Me

01:00:10.920 As

01:00:11.260 Part

01:00:11.520 Of

01:00:11.660 The

01:00:11.800 Electorate

01:00:12.380 Is

01:00:12.620 I

01:00:12.780 Don't

01:00:12.960 Know

01:00:13.100 What

01:00:13.200 It

01:00:13.300 Takes

01:00:13.520 For

01:00:13.660 People

01:00:13.900 To

01:00:14.100 Wake

01:00:14.360 Up

01:00:14.620 And

01:00:15.140 See

01:00:15.360 Reality

01:00:15.940 As

01:00:16.500 An

01:00:16.620 Economist

01:00:17.300 I've

01:00:17.640 Been

01:00:17.760 Saying

01:00:18.120 On

01:00:18.320 Your

01:00:18.460 Show

01:00:18.680 For

01:00:18.840 Our

01:00:20.060 Economy

01:00:20.520 Is

01:00:29.500 That

01:00:29.700 Inflation

01:00:30.260 Right

01:00:30.500 Now

01:00:30.680 Is

01:00:30.820 Not

01:00:31.000 A

01:00:31.120 Problem

01:00:31.480 It's

01:00:31.940 A

01:00:32.100 Terrible

01:00:32.440 Problem

01:00:32.820 Because

01:00:33.120 It's

01:00:33.360 Concentrated

01:00:34.080 In

01:00:34.580 Food

01:00:35.100 And

01:00:35.760 Other

01:00:35.980 Necessities

01:00:36.680 Of

01:00:37.240 Life

01:00:37.600 Unemployment

01:00:38.720 Is

01:00:39.000 Going

01:00:39.140 To

01:00:39.200 Be

01:00:39.300 The

01:00:39.460 Last

01:00:39.760 Domino

01:00:40.200 To

01:00:40.380 Fall

01:00:40.760 But

01:00:41.240 I

01:00:41.340 Expect

01:00:41.660 The

01:00:41.820 Unemployment

01:00:42.380 Rate

01:00:42.720 To

01:00:43.100 Spike

01:00:43.960 This

01:00:44.700 Year

01:00:45.000 As

01:00:45.320 People

01:00:45.600 Start

01:00:45.900 To

01:00:46.080 Lose

01:00:46.300 More

01:00:46.560 And

01:00:46.680 More

01:00:46.800 Jobs

01:00:47.260 The

01:00:47.520 Reality

01:00:47.880 Is

01:00:48.140 90%

01:00:49.420 Of

01:00:49.620 Canadians

01:00:50.120 In

01:00:50.400 A

01:00:50.500 Recent

01:00:50.720 Survey

01:00:51.120 Are

01:00:51.760 About

01:00:52.020 $200

01:00:52.820 Away

01:00:53.620 From

01:00:53.900 Financial

01:00:54.380 Insolvency

01:00:55.180 And

01:00:55.600 That

01:00:55.780 Means

01:00:56.000 That

01:00:56.200 Debt

01:00:56.580 Levels

01:00:57.080 In

01:00:57.220 This

01:00:57.400 Country

01:00:57.820 Are

01:00:58.380 Unsustainable

01:00:59.940 And

01:01:00.220 For

01:01:00.360 Some

01:01:00.660 Reason

01:01:00.960 This

01:01:01.740 Is

01:01:01.860 Now

01:01:02.020 The

01:01:02.180 Second

01:01:02.440 Liberal

01:01:02.760 Government

01:01:03.120 In

01:01:03.280 A row

01:01:03.460 That

01:01:03.620 Doesn't

01:01:03.880 Seem

01:01:04.060 To

01:01:04.200 Want

01:01:04.360 To

01:01:04.500 Deal

01:01:04.680 With

01:01:04.860 It

01:01:04.980 And

01:01:05.140 People

01:01:05.400 Really

01:01:05.940 Have

01:01:07.000 To

01:01:07.140 Start

01:01:07.360 Realizing

01:01:07.840 Where

01:01:08.220 We

01:01:08.460 Are

01:01:08.760 In

01:01:09.160 Terms

01:01:09.400 Of

01:01:09.520 Our

01:01:09.680 Economy

01:01:10.080 Because

01:01:10.380 It's

01:01:10.580 Nowhere

01:01:10.960 Good

01:01:11.300 Well

01:01:11.700 But

01:01:11.880 They

01:01:11.980 Don't

01:01:12.240 Though

01:01:12.440 Right

01:01:12.760 Warren

01:01:13.120 And

01:01:13.260 As

01:01:13.960 A

01:01:14.060 Politico

01:01:14.640 Your

01:01:15.480 Job

01:01:15.840 Would

01:01:16.020 Have

01:01:16.100 Been

01:01:16.220 To

01:01:16.320 Make

01:01:16.460 Sure

01:01:16.720 That

01:01:16.960 The

01:01:17.200 Attention

01:01:17.800 Is

01:01:18.100 Spent

01:01:18.660 Talking

01:01:19.040 About

01:01:19.400 Anything

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kinsellacast - March 01, 2026

KINSELLACAST 403： Hell just got a bit more crowded - Iran and more with Pierson, Sa'd, Lilley, Belanger - plus Sharp Pins, Dry Cleaning, Katzin, Dove Ellis

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