kinsellacast - May 03, 2026


KINSELLACAST 412: Wakey wakey with Sa'd, Belanger, Lilley - and Charles Asher Small on intellectualized hate, plus Solomon Burke, The Help, Rickshaw Billie, Dari Bay and more


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00:00:00.000 It's the Kinsella Cast, starring Warren Kinsella.
00:00:25.480 Hey, I'm Warren Kinsella Cast.
00:00:27.760 I've got a great show for you this week.
00:00:30.000 and all kinds of things to relate to my book the hidden hand is out as you know as i think you know
00:00:37.200 and uh it's a bestseller it's number three on the globe's canadian non-fiction bestseller list
00:00:45.760 and my publisher says this this is a bigger deal it's number nine on the global globe
00:00:52.760 non-fiction list which is where non-canadians are as well so that's kind of cool and it's
00:00:59.020 number four on the Toronto Star list, beating out Mark Carney. Take that, Mr. Big Shot Prime
00:01:04.960 Minister Economist guy. Anyway, in all seriousness, I'm very grateful to all of you who have picked up
00:01:12.060 the book, the e-book, or the hardcover book, or even the audiobook, which I haven't listened to
00:01:17.780 yet, but I will. And I'm also grateful to be celebrating the 20th anniversary of the Daisy
00:01:23.260 group 20 years ago this week i started my firm and i was nervous as hell and i had a lot of people
00:01:30.860 who were depending on me including four little kids and i signed a personal loan and put the
00:01:37.740 staff together and all that and i think i made it work i think 20 years later i guess it's safe to
00:01:45.420 say that so i'm immensely grateful to the many amazing colleagues i've had over the years as
00:01:51.500 as well as to our clients, who it has been a privilege to work with and for.
00:01:58.080 And so we're going to have a 20th anniversary party to bring a lot of that stuff together in Toronto this week,
00:02:02.620 the launch of the book, and Daisy, and looking forward to all of that.
00:02:06.840 And there's lots of other stuff going on.
00:02:08.320 The Ontario Municipal Campaign, the race has kicked off across the province.
00:02:13.280 My friend Brad Bradford is running for mayor of Toronto, and I'm honoured to be helping him out.
00:02:19.200 He's got a plan. I love alliterations.
00:02:21.500 to fight crime congestion and cost in toronto all of them are out of control under olivia chow
00:02:28.700 who's a nice but clueless mayor and i've got karima and brian and carl talking about all of
00:02:35.260 that stuff plus charles asher small charles is a montreal boy who fights hatred on a global scale
00:02:43.740 and is in in my book and our documentary so he's an amazing guy and i'm going to play a bit of what
00:02:50.140 he had to say this week and i'm going back to israel the documentary is getting a big big debut
00:02:57.180 there at the end of the month and i'll be telling you about all of that soon enough and i've got
00:03:04.700 some great music um kind of all over the map i've got this one band called the help there are two
00:03:11.820 guys electronic music stuff in la their names noah dylan and chandler lucy cool names and i just love
00:03:21.980 this tune and i do like electronic stuff so like i'm not a punk rock purist all the time then i've
00:03:27.620 got uh the sadly departed solomon vincent mcdonald burke solomon burke um who was an rmb guy one of
00:03:36.580 the founding fathers of soul really in the 60s and he bridged i think rmb and soul and had a ton
00:03:46.320 of records and was a genius i got another cool thing all this is totally diverse by the way
00:03:52.480 1-800-MIKEY is the name um it's this bedroom solo project by michael barker an australian
00:03:59.980 he started in 2019 or so and he's done a couple eps and a couple of lps and his song japan i just
00:04:09.840 think is a really good song dairy bay is from burlington vermont home of um what's in burlington
00:04:19.020 vermont ben and jerry's and bernie sanders i used to go there a lot uh with an x it's a nice little
00:04:26.620 town and it's fronted by a guy named zach james um and the song is called we're going to be okay
00:04:33.100 i'm going to play that first after charles speaks uh because i think we all need to hear that these
00:04:37.580 days with donald trump falling asleep while the world goes to rat and so it's the song title that
00:04:44.220 attracted me but the song is great as well but i've got rickshaw billy from austin texas and
00:04:49.100 they look it they look like truckers and they're probably proud of that and it's heavy stuff kind
00:04:54.620 of but it's different and smart and so it's got their i've got their single peaches and anyway
00:05:01.500 great music great talk and now i'm going to play a little bit of charles talk this week he had some
00:05:08.220 important things to say so welcome to the kinsella cast where to begin um i'm thinking of the words
00:05:15.980 of martin luther king uh martin luther king shortly before he was assassinated spoke about
00:05:22.060 the story of Rip Van Winkle and sleeping through a revolution and ladies and
00:05:29.680 gentlemen as we now know we've been sleeping we our community people who
00:05:34.480 care about the Jewish community in the diaspora people who care about
00:05:37.900 democratic principles we've been sleeping through a revolution and if we
00:05:43.180 look back the revolution was taking place right under our eyes right under
00:05:48.400 our noses, in our institutions, in our schools, in our universities, in the media of record.
00:05:56.020 And we accepted it. We accepted it as our sort of liberal bigness, that we can take
00:06:02.360 different perspectives, and this is part of the liberal, multicultural, democratic society
00:06:08.260 of Canada, of the United States, and of Western Europe.
00:06:10.720 I remember in 1983 Edward Said famously said that he was the last remaining Jewish intellectual
00:06:20.100 and what he meant was that he was the inheritor to the Frankfurt School of Thought
00:06:25.440 and if for the scholars around the table you'll know and for others please forgive me for a
00:06:30.660 moment to diverge into academic thought but the Frankfurt School of Thought was created by a group
00:06:36.860 basically a group of Jewish Holocaust survivors
00:06:40.420 who were able to escape Europe to the United States,
00:06:43.840 mostly to the United States and a few other countries,
00:06:46.140 and they created a very important conceptual framework
00:06:49.120 of philosophy and of thought.
00:06:52.500 And in the academic world, it was a very important contribution,
00:06:56.960 whether you're critical of it or you like it, it's another story.
00:07:00.760 And Said said in 1983 that Jewish scholars
00:07:04.500 became fat scribes
00:07:06.600 in the suburbs of America
00:07:08.440 he was the last remaining
00:07:10.460 Jewish intellectual
00:07:11.520 that the Israelis were the Nazis
00:07:13.920 and the Palestinians were the Jews
00:07:15.900 and when he said this in 1983
00:07:18.120 some people thought
00:07:19.860 he was misguided
00:07:20.980 he may have had a bad day
00:07:22.640 he was detached from reality
00:07:24.040 but ladies and gentlemen
00:07:27.380 43 years later
00:07:29.040 this is exactly the discourse
00:07:31.700 in the best universities
00:07:34.080 in the Western world. 0.82
00:07:36.140 Now, if Israel is a Nazi state, 0.78
00:07:39.800 if the Jewish community represents a Nazi state, 0.79
00:07:43.240 an occupying state, an apartheid state,
00:07:46.240 then from a liberal human rights perspective, 0.76
00:07:48.800 you are obligated to dismantle the entity, 0.86
00:07:52.680 to wipe Israel off the map. 0.96
00:07:55.580 And in a sense, the red-green alliance, 0.54
00:07:59.660 we refer to it in the political world,
00:08:01.840 we see it on the streets of Toronto,
00:08:03.280 the streets of London, sort of odd alliance of extreme leftists with extreme Islamists.
00:08:10.840 At one level, they have nothing in common except for their hatred of the Jews and hatred of democracy.
00:08:17.560 And this red-green alliance was born in academia. 0.72
00:08:21.100 It's now the zeitgeist of scholarship.
00:08:24.480 The institutions where future professors, journalists in the media of record,
00:08:29.660 captains of industry, political leaders, are educated.
00:08:34.280 And they've been educated in this world view for now nearly two generations.
00:08:40.880 And those of us in academia were, you know, ringing the alarm bells.
00:08:47.740 And many people in the community thought, well, this is liberalism.
00:08:51.380 People are entitled to their different ideas.
00:08:54.380 And academics have their hands in the clouds,
00:08:56.480 so they don't really understand reality anyways.
00:09:00.440 And so it went.
00:09:03.120 And so it went.
00:09:05.720 About ten days after October the 7th,
00:09:08.080 I went with a colleague of mine, Larry Amsell,
00:09:10.520 who's a professor of psychiatry at Columbia University.
00:09:13.900 And we went to a teach-in at the School of Social Work.
00:09:17.880 And there were professors of philosophy
00:09:19.580 and professors of literary criticism
00:09:22.620 and professors of gender studies.
00:09:25.840 Gender studies. I was raised by a feminist. My mother organized in 1975 the year of why not, the year of the woman. And my mother schooled my father and I on women's rights and feminism. So I'd come out of a home that we were taught, my father and I, to respect women. 0.99
00:09:44.920 professors of gender studies 0.83
00:09:47.440 having a teach-in
00:09:49.640 ten days after the massacre
00:09:52.440 ten days after the pogrom
00:09:54.020 ten days after the brutality
00:09:55.740 the sexual violations and torture 0.98
00:09:57.980 of Jewish women 0.98
00:10:00.600 Israeli citizens
00:10:01.840 by Hamas
00:10:03.880 the Palestinian chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood
00:10:07.020 a social movement
00:10:08.940 the reactionary social movement
00:10:10.420 that wants to 0.99
00:10:11.560 murder Jews around the world 0.99
00:10:14.340 a social movement that wants to destroy Israel 0.99
00:10:17.740 but murder Jews around the world and destroy democracy 0.68
00:10:20.400 and these professors at Columbia University 0.98
00:10:23.400 one of the best universities in the western world
00:10:25.740 these professors are masters
00:10:27.660 masters of the literature
00:10:30.320 masters of thought
00:10:32.420 they teach your children and your grandchildren
00:10:35.480 and these masters of intellectual thought
00:10:38.780 were arguing that the resistance
00:10:41.360 is justified by any means 1.00
00:10:43.500 So Hamas, who wants to destroy democracy, massacre Jews, subjugate women, kill gay people. 0.99
00:10:50.980 They were correct in their resistance by using violence. 0.98
00:10:55.160 And that the violence was justified by all means to end the occupation from the river to the sea.
00:11:01.440 And they were using the most sophisticated analysis, these masters of their disciplines.
00:11:07.720 And the professors of gender studies were arguing that the resistance will continue when it's justified.
00:11:13.500 and the violence will only end when the occupying, occupiers end.
00:11:19.260 And they went on to say, not only should Israel be destroyed,
00:11:22.880 but anybody who supports the occupation, 0.99
00:11:27.720 anybody who supports the racist, Zionist, genocidal, apartheid society,
00:11:34.620 needs to be resisted by any means also.
00:11:38.760 In other words, these professors and their doctoral students
00:11:42.720 were arguing that Jewish faculty, Jewish students, Jewish staff members at Columbia University
00:11:51.640 were fair game, were fair game using this intellectual worldview.
00:11:59.960 And we all know October the 7th happened and October the 8th at the best universities
00:12:05.760 where young people are learning to be citizens.
00:12:10.080 The encampments, the faculty, the student groups came out en masse
00:12:14.420 in support of this anti-democratic, violent, cult of death, 0.99
00:12:21.120 reactionary social movement that is out to murder Jews. 0.99
00:12:26.260 And this is because we accepted Mr. Professor Saeed's zeitgeist. 0.96
00:12:32.420 This is now filtered down into a very important, if not the most dominant way, education is conducted at the best universities in the Western world.
00:13:02.420 You're, I know you're all in great
00:13:07.260 All of the lights came on and hell still looked the same
00:13:14.140 Now I'm doing it all
00:13:19.060 And keep each other same
00:13:23.540 I know you want to help but it's alright, it's all okay
00:13:32.420 And I don't know what you're going to do
00:13:34.420 It's all I need to care that much
00:13:39.420 The time in the last day has been
00:13:43.420 Every kind of day
00:13:46.420 The winter just breaks me down
00:13:51.420 There's no way I can stop it now
00:13:55.420 I know I'm going to burn
00:13:58.420 But it's the one thing that keeps me safe
00:14:28.420 We'll be right back.
00:14:58.420 I wouldn't know about you
00:15:03.340 Is what it seems to say
00:15:05.980 So my teeth is almost gone
00:15:11.960 It's like I don't want to get them all
00:15:15.260 I'm all going to crawl
00:15:18.320 If the provider doesn't look the same
00:15:22.320 And looking to the lost in me
00:15:27.280 I think I will learn so far
00:15:31.440 Sometimes I feel so small
00:15:34.960 But it's all right
00:15:36.360 We'll be okay
00:15:37.640 Yeah, we'll be okay
00:15:57.280 We'll be right back.
00:16:27.280 We'll be right back.
00:16:57.280 and we're back and we're back with my friend brian lily on a cold brisk as canadians put it
00:17:05.740 we call it brisk when it's 40 below uh canadian spring morning so good morning sir and welcome to
00:17:12.360 canada's best love punk rock political podcast good morning um so it's may 1st you'd never know
00:17:21.780 it from the weather uh it's may 4th oh no today's may 3rd may 3rd more
00:17:26.780 tomorrow is may 4th when the fourth will be with you that's right and so may 1st was the day that
00:17:32.600 the municipal in ontario for those of you in the rest of canada care in ontario the municipal
00:17:38.520 races are underway it was ridiculously long amount of time from may until the end of october
00:17:46.060 so it's kicked off in toronto which is consequential i say to my western friends
00:17:52.020 bigger budget than most province many provinces um millions of people pretty important in terms
00:17:59.580 of federal politics so what are you going to be watching for over the next few weeks and months
00:18:04.460 uh mainly the toronto race because um there's you know um
00:18:13.100 andrea horvath um is the mayor of hamilton i'm not sure if she's going to have challenges yet
00:18:18.640 we'll see. I know up in Ottawa, Mark Sutcliffe is the incumbent. He's going to have a challenger
00:18:24.640 from the right and the left. They've got a councillor, Jeff Leeper, running. But there's
00:18:35.100 also a home builder named Alex Lawson who wants to challenge him from the Conservative side.
00:18:40.120 If it's that kind of split, then, you know, he's going to look pretty good for re-election when
00:18:46.400 get a split like that but in toronto it uh it appears that it's just going to be olivia chow
00:18:53.440 and brad bradford and the um the current mayor is a very nice woman but um bad policies and
00:19:03.360 that's what i've been detailing so um i'll i'll keep detailing things like that well let's talk
00:19:09.920 about that some specific specifics that you have given um you've been writing about the epidemic of
00:19:20.640 drug abuse and illegal drug use and the absolute disaster it's been for the lives of so many people
00:19:29.200 the users and non-users alike tell us a little bit about the series that you've been writing and
00:19:34.160 what what you've been highlighting we have over the past five years given out uh about 15 million
00:19:41.200 needles in toronto uh three million crack pipes and i think it's 2.8 million meth pipes
00:19:50.800 and of course this is called harm reduction that's what they label it as and it's supposed to
00:19:55.520 be about making things better for folks and gets them better access to treatment no no it doesn't
00:20:01.680 do that the um the overdose deaths they're down from the peak of i believe it was 2021 22 and
00:20:12.160 around there at the you know during the dark days of the pandemic overdose deaths spiked everywhere
00:20:18.000 but they are up significantly uh 3.4 times as high as a decade ago so you know stop telling me that
00:20:27.360 these things work oh but it'd be worse if we didn't have them well i mean you claimed that
00:20:33.120 we had to have them to cut overdose deaths we bring in all these policies overdose deaths just
00:20:38.720 keep going up olivia chow not only supports everything that we're doing doesn't back 0.79
00:20:45.040 treatment or should be putting money into treatment uh she's she even supported the
00:20:49.680 full decriminalization of drugs which was so bad in british columbia that the ndp government of
00:20:56.240 David Eby walked away from it so you know we've got open drug use we're walking to the uh grocery
00:21:02.960 store last night and I thought well what's the what's the route that we can take where we'll see
00:21:07.520 the fewest crack users on the street which is terrible that's that's not an exaggeration ended
00:21:14.800 up seeing um three taking the route that we thought would uh show us the least amount of
00:21:21.040 crack users for people who live rest in the rest of canada well maybe they're experiencing it too
00:21:28.480 this is a subject that comes up in toronto all the time um how this epidemic has uh is seen
00:21:38.560 all over the city so the and so full disclosure i'm one of the people who's supporting brad
00:21:45.280 bradford who's her challenger but you know getting back to the point you made a minute ago
00:21:50.880 if she's a very nice person um why why is she allowed this to happen is there some ideological
00:21:58.240 thing that where she doesn't give a about all these people who are dying on the streets
00:22:04.560 no it's an ideological thing that says this is the way that we have to uh work through this and
00:22:11.040 it doesn't work but so olivia chow's backed by the ndp in progress toronto uh doug ford
00:22:18.640 the premier of ontario in august 2024 announced that he was going to close a bunch of um
00:22:28.080 so-called safe injection sites which have been paired up with federal so-called safe
00:22:32.080 supply sites where they would actually give you the drugs and what was happening there is people
00:22:35.840 who get a prescription for the drugs these pharmaceutical grade opioid pills and the idea
00:22:43.520 is well give them clean drugs and then they're not taking dirty drugs what they would do is go 1.00
00:22:48.400 and sell the clean drugs to buy fentanyl because it's a better high yep and that's how a woman
00:22:53.920 ended up getting killed in downtown toronto just walking to buy lunch shot by a bullet after two
00:23:00.320 drug dealers got in a fight eventually doug ford says no we're going to shut these down and we're
00:23:05.120 we're going to convert a bunch of them into treatment places the NDP Mayor Chao Progress
00:23:11.800 Toronto which is an NDP front group they campaigned for Chao and all the progressive candidates
00:23:18.020 they fought all of this they didn't want it they they believe in uh full open drug use it you know
00:23:26.280 do you want to go down the path of San Francisco San Francisco now has a Democrat mayor who said
00:23:31.880 enough of the insanity and so hopefully we get someone else uh brad bradford is you know out of
00:23:41.000 the gate he's already been endorsed by current and former politicians a local former local tv anchor
00:23:47.880 turned provincial politician stephanie smith out campaigning with him in the center of toronto
00:23:53.880 uh former mpp and cabinet minister brad dugout uh from the liberal side campaigning with him
00:24:00.840 in Scarborough, John McKay, who was a
00:24:02.780 Liberal MP for 30 years.
00:24:04.560 There's going to be a lot of Liberals and Conservatives
00:24:06.580 come out to support Bradford
00:24:08.020 to try and just put some sanity
00:24:10.160 back into this city.
00:24:12.740 And, you know,
00:24:14.500 most of the other candidates, from
00:24:16.500 Anna Bailout to John Tory to Anthony
00:24:18.380 Fury, have all said they're out this
00:24:20.520 time. Last time they were about
00:24:22.400 Mark Saunders, the former police chief, said
00:24:24.500 he's out. Last time there were
00:24:26.240 too many candidates, they split the vote. 1.00
00:24:28.420 That's how Olivia Chow won.
00:24:29.640 Well, we'll see what happens, and we'll be reporting on it in the weeks ahead.
00:24:36.140 So the Senate, so when are you getting your appointment?
00:24:39.340 There's nine vacancies now, and I'm just waiting for Senator Lilly to take his rightful spot.
00:24:45.720 Oh, yes, because I'm on speed dial with Mark Carney.
00:24:50.000 You youngins may have to look up what speed dial is. 0.95
00:24:54.740 So what is he going to do with that?
00:24:56.340 he hasn't appointed a single senator since he became the elected prime minister a year ago
00:25:02.100 just over a year ago um what do you think he's going to do is he going to do something dramatic
00:25:07.160 like justin trudeau a sort of pretend to kick them out when he doesn't really is it this
00:25:12.800 independent senator like what's going to happen the independent senator thing is the biggest crock 0.97
00:25:18.040 going in the senate bullshit um he he should you know just say look if you want to caucus with the 0.96
00:25:23.860 liberals join the liberals again if you want to stay independent stay independent but you know 0.96
00:25:28.860 Trudeau kicked out the senators from the liberal caucus then claimed everyone could be an independent
00:25:34.040 senator a bunch of the conservative senators still caucused as conservatives and years ago
00:25:39.680 National posted a study on the voting records and found that independent senators voted more often
00:25:45.520 with the Trudeau government than former liberal senators so you know they were not independent
00:25:52.080 They were all very left-wing liberal appointees for Justin Trudeau.
00:25:57.220 I mean, that's the direction he took the party in, so that's not surprising.
00:26:01.620 He's got to appoint them at some point.
00:26:05.060 And Stephen Harper proved that.
00:26:06.540 Stephen Harper got fed up with trying to reform the Senate.
00:26:12.820 You know, he tried some good ideas.
00:26:15.300 it didn't go down the full path of a triple e senate of elected uh effective and equal
00:26:23.920 um which is what the the west wanted but you know he did try and bring about things like term limits
00:26:29.900 or um trying to make it more democratic and it got blocked at every turn by the courts and by
00:26:37.460 the senate itself and so he just stopped appointing people and then trudeau comes in and suddenly gets
00:26:42.500 a majority in the senate right away uh that that was a bad move so he'll appoint people at some
00:26:48.480 point um does the senate do some good work sometimes um but you know mostly it's a problem
00:26:57.240 we can't get rid of i think it's an anti-democratic abomination which means i'll never get appointed
00:27:02.760 the senate but you know that's that's just my take final thing um uh you've got a military
00:27:09.120 background and been a reservist proud to serve the country um as a guy who is familiar with the
00:27:16.840 military tradition are you freaked out about the drawdown on troops in germany by trump and what
00:27:24.300 it means for nato some people are saying you know hitting the alarm bell and saying this is the end
00:27:29.800 of nato or potentially what's your view yeah donald tusk the uh president of poland uh said
00:27:37.260 nato's disintegrating i think that's a bit of an exaggeration i agree there's always tension in nato
00:27:44.220 you know even even when it's a democrat president why everyone's trying to get the europeans to do
00:27:50.540 more poland and the eastern countries are doing better but you know if poland's at five percent 0.98
00:27:56.940 i think yeah yeah even if kamala harris had won the election uh she would have been pushing nato
00:28:03.260 to increase their spending how can i say that because joe biden did because barack obama did
00:28:07.980 obama did on the floor of the house of commons so yeah so so here's the scary part about that
00:28:14.140 announcement that the u.s is going to pull down 5 000 troops they're going to remove 5 000 troops
00:28:18.780 and some people might think oh they're going to have no troops left in germany no they'll still
00:28:23.180 have more active troops in germany than we have in all of canada ouch they've got 36 000 in germany
00:28:31.100 alone, just shy of 70,000 across Europe. We don't even have 70,000 in the whole country.
00:28:39.700 And when I say active duty, I mean, you take out the guys who could not deploy anywhere because
00:28:45.320 they look like the Michelin men. And you have a very low number of troops in the Canadian Armed 0.97
00:28:53.700 forces so um yeah they still have um they'll still have over 30 000 troops in germany
00:29:01.060 um i think about 12 in italy uh 10 000 in the uk and then you know it goes down from there
00:29:07.780 those are their main bases um always tension in nato hopefully they can work it out but the uh
00:29:14.980 the pot shots from from all the members not good and you know it looks like trump is removing them
00:29:23.380 because of something the German Chancellor said?
00:29:26.020 They claim, no, it's part of a regular review.
00:29:29.520 You know, I don't know,
00:29:31.280 but is it good that Trump is constantly calling people names?
00:29:35.020 No, it's not good that others are constantly calling him names.
00:29:39.180 Sometimes it feels like you're watching, you know,
00:29:42.160 a grade three recess session out in the playground. 1.00
00:29:46.000 Well, I enjoy calling him a fucker, 0.99
00:29:48.100 but Mark Carney, heed the words of Senator Lilly. 0.99
00:29:51.740 pay attention to what he's saying about our armed forces they need support we need more guys who are
00:29:56.900 ready to deploy senator i like the sound of that then i'll come visit you and we can both have naps
00:30:04.080 um have a wonderful day put on a sweater much appreciated have a great week talk later
00:30:21.740 Far past, the colorful town and the things are about to sound it
00:30:26.620 Cynical gaze, the trivial ways, a chemical nightmare, something so strange
00:30:34.540 I try to fall down and they probably say, I wanna be a pine tree cause they never know changing
00:30:42.400 I make it so far, I give it so loud, I take it on easy, I take it so proud like my soul
00:30:51.100 I'm in the daylight there
00:30:54.080 And I felt it
00:30:55.680 On the pitch black plains
00:30:58.260 But I'm not there
00:30:59.660 I never really was
00:31:02.140 But I'm in the locker room either
00:31:04.360 Never noticed
00:31:05.500 Never nodding
00:31:06.560 And only spit
00:31:07.500 Look at the moonlight
00:31:08.340 Yeah, you really can kill the vibe
00:31:10.500 When I'm off
00:31:11.080 225's in there
00:31:12.800 It's like
00:31:13.100 No drink and drive it
00:31:14.620 I'm like
00:31:15.080 Country road
00:31:16.220 Take me home
00:31:17.200 But this ain't West Virginia
00:31:19.200 This is LA
00:31:20.340 I'm on sunset, driving home
00:31:22.340 I woke up brand new to
00:31:48.560 A gallery of faces, a family of strangers
00:31:52.420 Etching memes into my eyelids
00:31:54.600 Because I'm brand new, I forgot about you
00:31:58.100 But the memory binds us to something carved in the blue
00:32:03.260 Do you connect all the dots?
00:32:06.900 Do you collect all my thoughts?
00:32:10.920 Do you stop and restart?
00:32:14.480 Do you retain everything?
00:32:18.560 Do, do you connect all the dots?
00:32:22.880 Do, do, do you collect all my thoughts?
00:32:26.920 Do, do, do you stop and restart?
00:32:30.880 Do, do, do you retain everything?
00:32:35.520 Look at the moonlight, yeah, you really can't kill the vibe
00:32:38.400 Where am I?
00:32:39.360 Two twenty-five's a minute, it's like
00:32:41.140 No chicken driving, I'm like
00:32:43.100 Country road, take me home
00:32:45.280 In the same West Virginia
00:32:47.240 This is LA, I'm on a sunset
00:32:50.120 I'm on my phone
00:33:17.240 and we're back we're back with carl belanger and carl um is international workers day
00:33:37.020 this week may have passed notice with a lot of people but it sure didn't in montreal there were
00:33:43.120 dozens of arrests there were protests and attacks vandalism theft all over the city what it has
00:33:50.720 what has happened to montreal or has montreal ever been like this always been like this well
00:33:56.880 i cannot say it's been always like this but it's not the first time there's clashes and attacks
00:34:02.600 like that and and it feels like it's a large scale but it's not uh you know dozens of arrests
00:34:09.720 It's not hundreds of arrests like you've seen in Istanbul, for instance.
00:34:14.100 So, you know, we have to put things in perspective.
00:34:16.780 These goons, you know, are not part of the union movement.
00:34:21.800 It's not union-driven. 0.82
00:34:23.020 It's not part of a large-scale civil unrest against the Quebec government.
00:34:28.520 There is some tension, but it's not that.
00:34:30.640 It's isolated groups who are taking advantage of the moment
00:34:35.540 and the fact that there's lots of people on the street to celebrate workers
00:34:39.400 to take advantage and cause trouble,
00:34:41.960 and mainly led by guys like the Black Bloc and CLAC,
00:34:47.940 who are famous for doing this at different times.
00:34:50.880 They did it during the swim protest about 15 years ago,
00:34:54.940 you know, the Maple Spring, as we called it.
00:34:58.320 They were there.
00:34:58.920 They were doing trouble, causing trouble.
00:35:01.620 And so you cannot read too much into it.
00:35:05.360 you would read more into it if it were to happen again next weekend and the weekend after and it
00:35:12.660 won't the um i guess the flip side of it is the absolute joy that we've been seeing with the
00:35:22.900 playoffs and the habs and the lightning and um which cost me a lot of sleep the other night
00:35:30.200 um like it there's a connection to that hockey team in the province of quebec that i i don't
00:35:38.800 think you see anywhere else in canada um and as i say it seems seems much more focused on joy and
00:35:46.140 and promise what's your take on i mean is there any political significance of it i guess it'd be
00:35:51.480 dangerous for any politician to come out against to get the habs in the province of quebec at the
00:35:55.580 moment. Yeah, which is why 1.00
00:35:57.560 I could never get elected in
00:35:59.520 Quebec.
00:36:02.640 Born and raised
00:36:03.660 in Quebec City, I was a big Nordic
00:36:05.420 fan, and we'll get back
00:36:07.620 to the Nordics in a second, but
00:36:09.040 Premier Robert Bourassa,
00:36:11.680 who was the guy behind the
00:36:13.620 Bay James project, and
00:36:15.400 one of the longest
00:36:17.520 serving premiers in the history of Quebec, once
00:36:19.400 famously said that it was much easier
00:36:21.800 to govern Quebec
00:36:22.740 when the abs were winning.
00:36:25.580 And I am absolutely convinced of that because people are so overtaken by the joy of the team.
00:36:32.980 And there's been, you know, historical significant event that had political ramification.
00:36:39.020 When Maurice Richard, the Rocket, was suspended during the playoffs, riots were driven.
00:36:46.280 It was very much the underlying theme was the Francophone population trying to emancipate 0.77
00:36:53.380 and grab the leverage of power that were escaping them
00:36:56.780 because the big money at the time
00:36:58.600 was controlled by anglophone interest in Montreal.
00:37:02.280 And so, you know, the history of the Montreal Canadiens
00:37:04.680 is very much linked to the coming of age
00:37:09.420 of the Quebec population and in some cases
00:37:11.860 to lead to, you know, the rise of Quebec nationalism
00:37:16.160 as opposed to French-Canadian nationalism.
00:37:19.540 There's a distinction that's important
00:37:21.300 because it eventually led to the separatist movement and the referendum that we've known.
00:37:27.800 Which brings me back to the Nordics, Warren, because I am absolutely convinced that one of the main reasons
00:37:34.260 that the yes side lost in 1995 is the fact that Jacques Parizeau and the PQ government at the time
00:37:43.440 did not see it important to keep the Quebec Nordics in Quebec City.
00:37:49.640 That's fascinating. This was the team that was wearing the fleur de lis on its jersey across North America. And if you look at the results, the francophone writings were the yes side, underperformed, were all around Quebec City.
00:38:07.820 There's about a dozen riding around Quebec City where the yes side was way below amongst francophone holders than anywhere else in the province.
00:38:17.140 And if you remember, the margin was very thin, it was less than 50,000.
00:38:21.120 And I'm convinced that if Quebec Nordic had stayed, the morality that set in Quebec City would not have played a role in the referendum.
00:38:30.740 People would have been fine.
00:38:33.040 And Mario Dumont, who was a leader of the IDQ and member of the Yes Camp,
00:38:37.980 believe as much, you know, he also said that in a recent interview,
00:38:41.980 that the fact that the Nordics left, led the Yes Camp on the wrong side of the equation.
00:38:49.380 And it's an example, and of course, you know, there's no empirical evidence.
00:38:53.880 It was a mood that set in in the capital because of the departure of the Nordics,
00:38:58.760 something that the PQ thought was not important.
00:39:00.800 and I think in the end led to the no camp winning.
00:39:06.400 That is absolutely fascinating.
00:39:07.760 Okay, well, let's segue with that to Mr. Kearney,
00:39:13.280 who plays hockey and was a goalie
00:39:15.500 and apparently was not a bad goalie, second string.
00:39:20.420 You got Paliyev, who works out with weights,
00:39:22.880 as he told Joe Rogan.
00:39:24.420 I'm not sure what Avi Lewis does, if anything,
00:39:27.160 um but uh at the moment carney's got his majority uh polyev uh i think you and i are both hearing
00:39:36.580 from people that his fate is looking darker and darker and lewis has announced he's not going to
00:39:43.120 run in any of the forthcoming by-elections maybe deal with lewis first like what the hell is he
00:39:47.640 thinking why doesn't he want to get into the house of comments well he's thinking that it's pointless
00:39:53.540 to be there without party status.
00:39:55.500 I think that's the logic behind it,
00:39:57.200 that going and wasting time in the officer commons
00:40:00.060 when you can't have any really significant exchange
00:40:03.960 with the prime minister kind of diminish the purpose
00:40:06.240 of being there for a question period.
00:40:09.220 But three years is a long time before the next election.
00:40:12.220 And the importance of rebuilding the party
00:40:15.120 is absolutely true,
00:40:17.460 but you need to somehow be able to get
00:40:21.760 at least a few clips here and there
00:40:23.420 or you're standing up to Mark Carney face-to-face and not being in the House,
00:40:27.840 you won't be able to do that at all, ever.
00:40:31.340 But, you know, New Democrats are pointing out that Jack Layton didn't get elected until a general election.
00:40:36.460 But, of course, it didn't take three years for that general election to happen.
00:40:40.880 So he's going to face pressure.
00:40:43.060 He's going to face pressure, especially in seats that could be winnable by the NEP.
00:40:48.280 If the NEP loses, because they cannot attract a star candidate,
00:40:51.320 People will look at Louis' leadership and say, you're supposed to bring this party back
00:40:55.500 and you're not doing it.
00:40:57.920 And so the pressure will mount.
00:40:59.160 And we've seen others resist before.
00:41:01.380 Jagmeet Singh resisted by election until he finally decided to take the cue and run.
00:41:13.080 But the truth is, you know, it would be a different story if the NDP was at party status.
00:41:19.760 I think the pressure would be more important, and the real politics would sit in.
00:41:26.640 But right now, perhaps they think they can't win, because that's the other challenge, Warren, right?
00:41:32.740 If he runs and loses, then what?
00:41:36.440 Yeah, no, it's not a happy day for the NDP.
00:41:39.380 No, no.
00:41:40.760 What about Paulyev?
00:41:41.800 That's part of the consideration, right?
00:41:43.200 Well, Paulyev is a different animal altogether because, funny, he was doing the wrong thing and doing better in the polls.
00:41:54.280 He was not talking to the media and he was doing better in the polls.
00:41:57.780 It's like the more Canadians see him in action, the more they don't like him.
00:42:02.560 And to defend Paulyev, I don't think it's just him.
00:42:05.780 I think last year, Mark Carney, after the election, entered a phase of appeasement of the Trump administration.
00:42:14.620 We gave up on the digital tax.
00:42:17.360 We removed some of the tariffs that Trudeau had put in place.
00:42:21.560 There were a couple of moves like that where we were kind of showing the Trump administration that we were willing to play ball with their demands.
00:42:31.980 But that all shifted towards the end of the year.
00:42:34.480 And if you recall in the polls in November, December 2025, the conservatives were kind of on the rise.
00:42:41.740 They were in some cases, in fact, they were leading in the polls.
00:42:46.180 But that all shifted when Trump went back on the offensive, first on Greenland, but also about Canada's sovereignty in the 51st state.
00:42:56.180 And he called Carney Governor Carney.
00:42:58.300 And so that came back.
00:42:59.660 And Carney reacted by being the Carney that Canadians looked for during the election.
00:43:04.160 and he became combative.
00:43:05.860 He had this big speech in Davos.
00:43:08.660 And you saw that in full display in the past few weeks
00:43:11.100 where he's really going after the Americans and saying,
00:43:13.980 no, thank you, we're not going to play that game,
00:43:16.040 and we're not going to send our money down to the United States for nothing.
00:43:20.800 Calling the trade relationship a weakness.
00:43:23.880 I mean, it's something unheard of.
00:43:27.400 And that's the party that Canadians want to see.
00:43:30.360 I'm not sure in terms of the economic interest of the country
00:43:33.560 that it is a good thing but in terms of the you know short-term political interest of corny it's
00:43:39.440 working and it's working at the expense of pia poiriev and there's very little he can do to fight
00:43:45.940 that brilliant analysis as always um thank you for your wisdom my friend have a wonderful day
00:43:54.480 and a wonderful week it's a little chilly where i am but hopefully it's sunny where you are and
00:43:58.920 going to warm up. Well, sun is out here
00:44:00.980 so we'll go outside and enjoy
00:44:02.900 the day. Alright, go and enjoy the day.
00:44:04.880 Thank you so much.
00:44:06.840 Thanks, Warren.
00:44:28.920 We'll be right back.
00:44:58.920 And go and get relationships
00:45:09.060 Come on down
00:45:11.700 Try to build 0.99
00:45:13.320 My baby
00:45:15.320 utilizar
00:45:17.060 Wake up
00:45:18.960 How believe you get that song
00:45:22.320 From the girl
00:45:23.760 Leading her
00:45:25.400 Take my journey
00:45:26.900 While
00:45:27.860 See the eyes, see the side,ล
00:45:54.680 It is not a bad
00:45:57.840 Let's go, let's try and go
00:46:27.840 And we're back, we're back with my friend Karim Asad, and I had a delightful surprise this week.
00:46:41.700 I was in Toronto, that wasn't the delightful surprise part, but I was in the middle of,
00:46:47.820 you know, the towers of commerce and power and right in the center, like right at Bay Street
00:46:54.800 and and queen street and there's karima walking along and so um it was wonderful to see you
00:47:02.380 and uh because we talk on the phone but we don't see each other as much
00:47:06.580 so so thank you for joining the kinsella cast thank you thanks for having me so one of the
00:47:13.760 things that um you've been reporting on wacky things like cosplay guys getting arrested but
00:47:19.540 also something i think that was more serious and important and full disclosure i'm a supporter of
00:47:25.880 brad bradford who's running to be mayor of toronto and his main but not only i suspect opponent is
00:47:31.420 olivia chow olivia chow is supported by something called progress toronto which sounds benign and
00:47:36.700 nice but sometimes in my view is not um and so this week you caught the head this the very
00:47:46.120 mysterious head of Progress Toronto walking out of City Hall, which some people feel that she runs.
00:47:52.980 Tell us about Progress of Toronto. Is it something that we need to pay attention to? Is it something
00:47:58.200 we need to be concerned about? Well, definitely pay attention to. It is a public advocacy group,
00:48:07.600 I suppose, is one way to frame it.
00:48:12.540 Individuals who get together and politically organize,
00:48:19.600 including and particularly, I would say,
00:48:21.600 during municipal elections,
00:48:24.540 supporting certain candidates who they feel align
00:48:28.980 with their vision of the city, including Mayor Chow,
00:48:31.900 and equally going after candidates who they deem to be antithetical to their values
00:48:42.800 and running effectively negative campaigns against those targets.
00:48:52.180 And they had a strong measure of success in the past election, in certain by-elections as well.
00:49:00.520 You know, and it's not a nefarious thing to politically organize.
00:49:09.820 You know, what does raise concerns is, in my view, some of the activists who are aligned with Progress Toronto or who receive their support or endorsement.
00:49:28.700 um you know tell us tell us about those tell us about yeah the iranian canadian congress for
00:49:34.540 example so the executive director of progress toronto and her brother who also has a role
00:49:43.300 with progress toronto um have both held um leadership positions with the iranian canadian
00:49:50.760 congress um i think that's what they're called um and their logo was most recently seen on a
00:49:58.420 flyer um for a demonstration uh against the well how do we put this it's like i'm triple
00:50:09.000 negatives here i suppose when it comes down to it it was in favor of the islamic republic regime
00:50:15.420 it was there the poster had to boil down to their poster had a picture of ayatollah khamenei on
00:50:22.000 on it and hands off iran like that's dangerous that olivia chow's people are associated with
00:50:31.220 propping up or supporting or seeming to lend support to um a regime that subjugates women
00:50:40.420 and gays and jews and many other people isn't it and you know the tactics that i've seen
00:50:46.860 personally, firsthand from people affiliated with Progress Toronto, kind of align with
00:50:53.900 the censorious, trying to shut down other voices while simultaneously insisting that
00:51:02.240 they be heard.
00:51:04.100 And it's that shutting down others that I think is just inconsistent with democracy.
00:51:09.960 And I've seen it with literally trying to make more noise than the other side and drown out a press conference, for example.
00:51:22.220 The executive director herself has taken a sign and chased my videographer around with it.
00:51:29.980 Kind of behavior we document all the time at protests seems to be part of their toolkit.
00:51:37.000 And so that's where the concern is.
00:51:38.920 It's not that you have people who are like-minded organizing politically.
00:51:44.200 That is not a bad thing in and of itself.
00:51:47.740 What I find concerning are the tactics that are used, resorting to smear campaigns, redefining words,
00:51:58.880 and what seems to be a level of influence at City Hall
00:52:03.000 that isn't always captured in sort of the official records or documents,
00:52:10.060 but is more of a backdoor influence style.
00:52:13.380 Well, it certainly looks like they have some influence,
00:52:15.620 so you and I will be keeping an eye on that in the coming weeks
00:52:19.920 as the Ontario municipal campaigns unfold.
00:52:23.680 Final question, just putting on your legal hat.
00:52:27.000 So the police did something fairly extraordinary, I think, this week, releasing a photograph of a young person who they are seeking in connection to two shootings of synagogues in Toronto, or GTA.
00:52:47.440 And so they put that out with the permission of a judge, which I think is viable until Monday.
00:52:54.540 Okay. So how unusual was that?
00:52:57.980 And the Jewish community is very supportive of that because they want the bad guys to be caught. 0.69
00:53:06.360 What did you think when you saw that they did that? 0.61
00:53:10.100 It's definitely not a common move.
00:53:13.500 The youth criminal justice regime includes many protections for youth who are accused of being offenders or convicted of offenses.
00:53:29.260 And so it's not the first time I've seen this.
00:53:31.600 I think somewhat recently there was a shooting that involved minors and those suspects, you know, were their photos were put out and then they were captured and then the photos were removed.
00:53:46.520 So we'll see, you know, if this helps identify the people involved in these synagogue shootings.
00:53:58.000 But it signals that this is a matter to be taken very seriously and that traditional protections that might otherwise apply, you know, are superseded by the interest in catching whoever is involved.
00:54:15.920 so i think that's maybe a takeaway yeah i think so and uh we'll we'll see if the police are
00:54:23.500 successful but it looks like they're just a final final question it looks to me like
00:54:29.860 uh they are ramping up um their investigations and and arrests with respect to anti-semitic
00:54:39.980 crime jew hatred um is that your impression as well this seems to be getting more active
00:54:45.920 There has been something of a shift, I would say, in police response.
00:54:54.400 Likely, this is the result of public pressure.
00:54:58.520 How much of this is window dressing versus how much of it is an actual renewed commitment to enforcing the law, that remains to be seen.
00:55:10.800 You know, I think that there's a lot of negative attention that Toronto police have received over the past few years, particularly the impression of policing with discrepancies and a two-tier, multi-tier approach to keeping the streets safe or not keeping the streets safe.
00:55:35.200 So, you know, I acknowledge that there has been a shift. How sincere or how effective will it be? And that's only partially in the police's hands, because once they lay charges, it goes to a prosecutor and maybe eventually to a judge.
00:55:53.940 So they're only one component of the system.
00:55:57.540 But they do seem to be at least visibly making certain changes.
00:56:04.740 I think as well of this new unit with the big guns walking around.
00:56:10.500 Like to me, I've been critical of that new strategy.
00:56:15.560 I don't know that that's going to enhance public safety, but it's definitely visible.
00:56:20.580 Definitely visible.
00:56:21.040 well as you pointed out we talked about a few minutes ago it's an election year too isn't it
00:56:26.360 so i guess we'll see how meaningful these things are in the meantime my friend have a wonderful
00:56:31.340 day and a wonderful week and thank you thank you so much
00:56:51.040 Now
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00:58:45.840 Thank you.