kinsellacast - May 24, 2026


KINSELLACAST 415： Go Habs Go - and Smith begone! With Lilley, Belanger, Sa'd and E (again)! Plus The Ruts, Cloud Nothings, Radkey, Cymbals Eat Guitars


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1 hour and 9 minutes

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28

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Toxicity

42

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00:00:00.000 it's the kinsella cast starring warren kinsella
00:00:08.280 hey it's warren welcome to kinsella cast in a few days time i'm leaving for israel for the
00:00:27.380 debut of our documentary the campaign at the tel aviv international documentary festival
00:00:33.520 so i will be reporting to you from there yes i have a fondness for heading into hot spots
00:00:41.800 my other hot spot this summer spring will be africa which is currently dealing with another
00:00:49.040 kind of crisis so um yeah not just don't invite war into your country that's kind of the rule of
00:00:56.660 them because he's like the flying dutchman of punk rock podcast whatever i anyway great show
00:01:07.800 this week i've got the regulars brian lilly kareem assad carl belanger i'm gonna get e in there too
00:01:14.020 uh at the end because she was a big hit last week i'm not sure what we'll talk about we'll
00:01:18.980 talk about something and then i've got some great music i've got cloud nothings um from cleveland
00:01:25.560 who I played before, Threesome, led by a guy named Dylan Baldy.
00:01:30.560 And I just really dig this band.
00:01:33.300 Cymbals Eat Guitars were a great indie rock band.
00:01:38.500 Their name was inspired by a Lou Reed quote.
00:01:41.180 He was asked to describe the music of the Velvets.
00:01:43.760 And he said, Cymbals Eat Guitars.
00:01:45.700 So I thought that was a pretty good name.
00:01:48.100 They broke up in 2017.
00:01:51.000 Then you've got Radke.
00:01:52.640 Radke is the surname of three brothers.
00:01:54.720 Dee, Solomon, and Ozea.
00:01:57.260 They're from Missouri, formed in 2010.
00:01:59.860 I've got their song, Ready to Burn.
00:02:02.120 And finally, I've got some very synthy stuff from this band called Automatic.
00:02:05.640 I'm playing a lot of synthesizer stuff lately.
00:02:07.480 Have you noticed that?
00:02:08.640 I've got a cousin called Kevin.
00:02:12.040 Let's see if any of you get that reference, that reference to synthesizers.
00:02:17.500 I've got a cousin called Kevin.
00:02:19.700 So Automatic are from L.A., formed 2017, another three piece.
00:02:23.780 and I've got their song Highway, and so a good show.
00:02:29.380 But I'm going to lead things off, because I'm kind of pissed off,
00:02:31.860 as you're about to hear, by Alberta, where I grew up,
00:02:35.860 not where I was born. 0.99
00:02:37.940 And I fucking despise separatists. 0.99
00:02:41.140 And the reason why is my family were all born in Quebec. 0.99
00:02:43.960 My mom, my dad, my grandparents, my great-grandparents
00:02:48.140 came over from Ireland, but Quebec was home.
00:02:52.920 And in the seventies we had to leave because the separatists drove us out
00:02:56.560 because we were, we spoke English.
00:02:59.620 And there've been two referenda in Quebec on separation.
00:03:02.780 As you know, they cost Canada jobs and investment and political stability.
00:03:09.680 Hundreds of companies left, uh, stocks, companies lost value.
00:03:16.120 Experts say it costs the economy like nationally, but also provincially
00:03:21.100 billions year after year.
00:03:22.920 So families like mine left for Alberta, and back then, Peter Law, he'd governed Alberta.
00:03:29.520 He believed in Canada, and he always fought for a better deal for Alberta, but within Canada.
00:03:34.960 So here's some disclosure.
00:03:38.620 Daniel Smith and I went to the same high school in Calgary.
00:03:41.880 She was there a few years after me, and later on, when I was involved in politics, and she wasn't.
00:03:46.960 she'd have have me on her show on chqr calgary 770 um a few times and like she wasn't very smart
00:03:56.540 like she always gave the impression that she was just reading questions somebody else had prepared
00:04:01.400 for her and this week um again she was reading a question somebody else prepared for her it's a
00:04:07.580 question that will be damaging to many many people in the months to come and here's the question
00:04:12.120 should alberta remain a province of canada or should the government alberta commence the legal
00:04:16.540 process required under the Canadian constitution to hold a binding provincial referendum on whether
00:04:22.260 or not Alberta should separate from Canada, quote unquote. It's just 37 words, but they are going
00:04:29.500 to start causing lots of pain and unhappiness. And here's why the separatists in Alberta,
00:04:35.640 they're livid. They didn't want a referendum to hold a referendum. They wanted a direct and
00:04:39.460 binding vote on leaving Canada now, not later. So they've now promised to drive Smith out of
00:04:45.640 the Premier's office for betraying them. The pro-Canada people aren't happy. They've denounced
00:04:50.520 Smith for causing untold economic damage to the province and the nation for no good reason.
00:04:56.240 They're furious about the political uncertainty that she has unleashed.
00:05:00.980 Carney, who was born in Northwest Territory, raised in Alberta, can't be pleased. He just
00:05:06.220 signed a historic pipeline deal with Smith, and then she turns around and stabs him in the back.
00:05:11.040 The conservative leader, Pierre Polyev, can't be happy either.
00:05:14.440 He was born in Calgary, represents an Alberta riding,
00:05:17.500 and he has already said unambiguously he's going to campaign
00:05:20.480 against Smith's referendum on leaving Canada.
00:05:24.140 First Nations, many of whom I represent, are raging.
00:05:28.500 They point out correctly that Smith has a constitutional obligation
00:05:32.240 to meaningfully consult with them, and she hasn't done that.
00:05:35.960 They've promised to take her again to court.
00:05:38.120 They're probably going to win. 1.00
00:05:38.980 like is anybody happy about smith making it easier for some morons to destroy the best country in the 0.98
00:05:45.300 world for sure there's a russian covert influence network rdi has told us about it's called storm 0.90
00:05:51.420 1516 and it's been helping the separatist cause in alberta so vladimir putin's happy about
00:05:57.680 daniel smith the mega republicans are probably happy too a bunch of organizations were reported
00:06:03.860 that U.S. officials and influencers
00:06:05.660 have joined the threat landscape,
00:06:08.180 quote-unquote,
00:06:08.900 to boost the Alberta separatist movement.
00:06:11.460 So get ready.
00:06:12.560 Get ready.
00:06:12.920 It's days away.
00:06:15.160 Yeah, he'll do this to distract from the disaster,
00:06:17.660 which is his Iran deal.
00:06:19.400 Trump's going to start promoting Alberta independence.
00:06:21.780 And his people have already been secretly meeting
00:06:23.680 with Albertan Canada wreckers.
00:06:26.400 And for the rest of us,
00:06:27.240 and the rest of us just want some stability
00:06:29.900 in an unstable world.
00:06:31.720 Like for those of us who want leaders who unite us and not always divide us, Smith's
00:06:39.720 stunt is going to cause unbelievable chaos and uncertainty.
00:06:44.240 It's going to throw the country into an unnecessary and unwanted fight, and it's going to bring
00:06:49.420 back that most unwelcome word of all, constitution.
00:06:54.780 So many of us are going to be really, really unhappy in the months ahead, all because of 0.96
00:06:58.440 Daniel Smith, who doesn't seem to be particularly fucking bright and has decided to kick a political 0.98
00:07:04.740 hornet's nest. The only good thing for those of us who still believe in this country is this. 0.98
00:07:10.700 It won't be the end of Canada, but it sure as hell is going to be the end of Daniel Smith.
00:07:28.440 You'll burn the street 0.96
00:07:37.640 You'll burn your houses
00:07:40.740 With anxiety
00:07:43.240 With anxiety
00:07:46.440 With anxiety
00:07:48.440 With anxiety
00:07:52.440 With anxiety
00:07:54.440 With anxiety
00:07:55.440 Baby, I'm burning
00:08:07.440 Baby, I'm burning 0.99
00:08:10.440 You're burning the street 1.00
00:08:13.440 You're burning ghetto 0.99
00:08:16.440 With anxiety
00:08:19.440 With anxiety
00:08:22.440 Baby, I'm burning
00:08:24.440 With anxiety
00:08:26.440 And by that I was burning
00:08:28.940 By that I was burning
00:08:30.560 By that I was burning, baby
00:08:32.060 Can't you see?
00:08:33.600 By that I was burning
00:08:34.620 With anxiety
00:08:35.600 Your burn is your work
00:08:54.760 Your burn is your ply
00:08:57.800 The smoke of fear is smoldering 0.95
00:09:01.080 With ignorance and height
00:09:03.660 I'm with anxiety 0.67
00:09:06.920 Bad or always burning, bad or always burning
00:09:10.680 With anxiety
00:09:12.300 Bad or always burning, bad or always burning
00:09:16.380 Bad or always burning, baby can't you see
00:09:19.060 Bad or always burning with anxiety
00:09:33.660 and we're back and i'm a little tired uh because i'm an old guy and but watch the game into overtime
00:09:58.720 which sadly the habs lost carl did you watch the game i did i did yeah and what's your take what's
00:10:05.760 your expert sports analysis well my expert sports analysis is that we saw the two hurricanes last
00:10:12.240 night yeah like the first game they were they were i don't know a phantom of what they usually are
00:10:20.240 uh but despite playing their best hockey uh the ads almost pulled it off despite not shooting on
00:10:25.840 Anderson. So it's about capitalizing at the right time. The Habs have, you know, go back to
00:10:32.040 Montreal with mission accomplished, right? Winning one game on the road is key. And now they have
00:10:36.860 the old ice advantage. We'll see if they can pull it off. If they can find a solution to not turn
00:10:44.280 the puck over as often as they did, that's the game plan for the York Kings. And stupid penalties 1.00
00:10:51.000 or a lot of those on the Habs' side. 1.00
00:10:53.820 But the shots against, it just looked like it was foretold
00:10:59.100 when the Hurricanes have got so many more shots on goal.
00:11:03.960 Like sooner or later, your goalie's going to get something in.
00:11:05.960 But the Habs have a better goalie, right?
00:11:08.500 And despite the stat that Innocent had after the first two series,
00:11:12.880 you could see him struggling every time the puck was around him last night,
00:11:16.480 especially in the third period when the Habs played their best hockey of the night.
00:11:20.100 uh he struggled and uh and i think that's what the as are coming out it doesn't matter the number
00:11:25.840 of shots you just need to keep pushing because you will get the puck in behind him well if you
00:11:32.640 look at the quebec media this morning as as i always do um it's hard to find political coverage
00:11:39.080 in the midst of all the cabs coverage but it is there and i think it was leger this week uh had
00:11:47.200 more of what you and i were talking about last week and what you warned people about weeks ago
00:11:52.220 which is the freshet effect it is amazing that the caq the government the incumbent which was
00:11:59.860 dead in the water like the last rites had been performed and she's got them back in contention
00:12:05.920 looks like a three-way race so what's your take on the latest yeah it's interesting because she is
00:12:12.280 not creating a freshet mania the way there was a Carney mania when Carney took over
00:12:19.080 from Trudeau.
00:12:19.840 So there's not that impact, but there's still a positive numbers for the CAC.
00:12:25.200 And, you know, you mentioned Leger, which showed the CAC up in range of the two main
00:12:32.340 parties, the Liberals and the PQ.
00:12:34.620 But there was also a main street that showed the CAC in second place and the PQ falling
00:12:39.000 to third place, which might explain why, you know,
00:12:44.740 and mainstream could be an outlier.
00:12:46.660 It could be, you know, coming out of left field,
00:12:49.500 but it was a big sample over 1,100 people.
00:12:52.620 So you have to kind of look at it and say,
00:12:54.980 is there something there?
00:12:57.200 And it shows that, you know, the PQ voters and the CAC voters,
00:13:02.040 they're coming from the same pool.
00:13:03.680 They're coming from the same nationalist pool.
00:13:06.540 the people that care about the separation of church and the state
00:13:11.680 to the point where we got the laws that we got in Quebec.
00:13:14.920 They're fighting over that kind of voters.
00:13:16.700 They're fighting over that kind of voters who, you know,
00:13:18.820 might be interested in independent Quebec,
00:13:21.260 but mostly want to make sure that we preserve the French culture,
00:13:26.300 the French language, and the way of life here.
00:13:30.060 So this is the challenge for both the Parti Québécois
00:13:35.500 question of Quebec. In fact,
00:13:38.020 the CAC's mission should have
00:13:39.560 been to eradicate
00:13:42.000 the Parti Québécois.
00:13:44.140 And they came close.
00:13:45.460 I mean, they were down, you know,
00:13:47.160 no party status and everything,
00:13:49.460 but they did not finish
00:13:51.600 them. And so the PQ is back
00:13:53.460 now, and now the PQ's
00:13:55.420 mission is to eradicate the CAC,
00:13:57.980 which is what they were
00:13:59.400 on their way to do with François Legault
00:14:01.000 stuck around, but Fréchette is changing
00:14:03.020 the game.
00:14:03.600 The big thing that still has positive for the PQ
00:14:12.260 Is the fact that when you ask who's the best Premier
00:14:16.500 Who would be the best Premier
00:14:17.960 Paul Saint-Pierre Lamondon is still ahead of Christine Fréchette
00:14:22.300 But the more she's governing
00:14:23.560 The more she's making decisions 1.00
00:14:24.940 The more she's climbing back that hill too
00:14:27.580 So it'll be interesting to see 1.00
00:14:29.140 Because the National Assembly won't sit
00:14:32.960 for very much
00:14:34.880 longer. So you
00:14:36.820 won't have that forum, which
00:14:38.860 might help, actually, the government
00:14:40.600 because the opposition
00:14:42.760 has a hard
00:14:44.800 time to make A
00:14:46.560 when the National Assembly is not sitting.
00:14:49.180 So, you know,
00:14:50.720 obviously a factor, as you pointed out, is
00:14:52.800 sovereignty or nationalism
00:14:54.540 or separatism. It gets,
00:14:56.560 it bears various names
00:14:58.580 in Quebec, but it's been a
00:15:00.460 durable part of the
00:15:02.320 political culture as long as i've been alive um and um obviously as a factor in the upcoming
00:15:10.600 race with with the caq and the pq you know pulling from the same pool of votes um you know
00:15:19.740 does that mean that people should be looking more closely at the poq that does it put the
00:15:26.420 liberals ahead if the other two guys are splitting the same vote well they they are ahead by default
00:15:33.140 but it's it's the problem for them is that even though they could win the popular vote with
00:15:38.540 it's like 31 percent which is the is i've seen them lately uh 31 percent that doesn't give you
00:15:45.220 a majority for the plq uh the liberals need to climb over at least 35 percent and the key for
00:15:53.000 them is french voters right now they're running third sometimes fourth depending on the polls
00:15:59.080 in the french vote and so that maturity of the writings are francophone and and right now they
00:16:06.760 don't they don't capture the imagination of of francophone quebec voters uh it's a battle between
00:16:13.800 the pq and the cac with you know some pockets of support for quebec solidar in urban areas
00:16:19.400 mostly in Montreal, Quebec City, but also the Conservative Party, who are doing better in many
00:16:26.440 areas than the Liberals, especially around Quebec City, the south shore of Quebec City, and eastern
00:16:31.980 Quebec. The Conservatives, you know, they have some pull. And so it'll be interesting to see,
00:16:39.340 but right now there's no split that would allow the Liberals to form a majority government.
00:16:44.660 They would need to climb significantly and increase their support with French voters.
00:16:49.640 They're not doing that.
00:16:51.920 And could that shift?
00:16:54.520 Maybe.
00:16:55.360 And I think it could shift if the PQ or the CAC were to pull ahead and recreate this as a two-way race as opposed to a three-way race. 1.00
00:17:06.420 Well, Danielle Smith has got a majority government. 1.00
00:17:10.480 She's decidedly got a majority government. 1.00
00:17:12.980 and she's decided to use it 1.00
00:17:16.300 to put forward a referendum on a referendum
00:17:18.620 in the province of Alberta
00:17:21.920 where I was raised after we left Quebec 1.00
00:17:24.060 and she's got the separatists there pissed off at her 0.96
00:17:28.940 she's got the federalists pissed off 0.99
00:17:30.740 First Nations
00:17:32.000 it doesn't sound like Pierre Pogliev is happy with her
00:17:34.840 along with Mark Carney
00:17:35.820 nobody's happy with her
00:17:37.500 I'm just trying to figure out 0.78
00:17:40.560 why did she do what she did? 0.95
00:17:42.980 Well, she's in over her head, it seems, and she created this monster by campaigning 0.96
00:17:49.600 on it for the leadership of the UCP, and she's lost control, and so she's gained control 0.57
00:17:57.680 back by trying to create this kind of process that's supposed to please everyone or at least
00:18:04.260 give them enough to get going that she will personally survive positively, but I think 1.00
00:18:10.960 She's making huge mistakes both for her political future
00:18:16.100 but also for national unity.
00:18:18.860 And it's funny because you mentioned a minute ago
00:18:20.940 how durable this separatist movement has been in Quebec.
00:18:25.200 It's been around for quite some time.
00:18:27.460 And when she announced that two-step referendum process,
00:18:31.160 she said something that, you know, I think is puzzling.
00:18:35.560 She said that it's time for Albertans to vote on this issue.
00:18:42.380 It's time that we find out the will of Albertans on this issue and then move on.
00:18:46.940 The lesson from Quebec's separate reserve is that they don't move on.
00:18:50.660 They keep going.
00:18:52.660 They organize.
00:18:53.460 And now you have given them not only a platform to campaign on, but also a tool to organize, to get more names,
00:19:02.940 to be emboldened
00:19:04.900 to keep fighting for this.
00:19:06.920 It won't disappear because you get
00:19:08.900 maybe a pipeline, maybe through B.C.
00:19:11.240 It won't disappear. That's not
00:19:12.940 what this is about.
00:19:15.080 That's the mistake she's making.
00:19:17.720 People will not
00:19:18.900 move on. Quebec has proven it.
00:19:21.040 We are on our way for a third
00:19:22.880 referendum. I remember
00:19:24.940 when the Bloc Quebec Web was elected in
00:19:26.620 1993, they were there for one election.
00:19:29.280 How long has it been? 1.00
00:19:31.180 It's so true.
00:19:32.940 To me, you've inspired me to write a column about it this week.
00:19:37.720 When you legitimize, even when you oppose it,
00:19:40.260 when you legitimize separatism,
00:19:43.160 well, then it's like what my barber in Ottawa used to say to me.
00:19:47.200 If you have a problem and a solution, you've got a solution.
00:19:49.720 If you have a problem without a solution, you've got a way of life.
00:19:52.020 She's created a way of life for herself that's not going to stop.
00:19:55.820 And this is going to be a factor of Alberta politics for years to come,
00:19:59.860 isn't it?
00:20:01.340 Absolutely.
00:20:01.780 And, you know, it's not even that she legitimized that movement.
00:20:06.900 She enabled that movement.
00:20:08.920 She made it easier for them to get this thing going. 0.69
00:20:12.580 She gave them, she's appealing ruling to make it easier for them.
00:20:18.500 So she is enabling that movement. 0.97
00:20:21.060 She was using it as a tool, as a bargaining chip against the federal government.
00:20:26.220 But it's backfiring big time.
00:20:27.900 And I said that much when she first started to talk about this.
00:20:31.780 that this was a very dangerous game that she was playing with fire and guess what the hell's
00:20:36.660 burning right now it is indeed unfortunately it's going to be uh a little bouncy for canada over
00:20:43.040 the coming months until this of their alberta vote but it'll give you you and i lots to talk
00:20:47.600 about in the in the coming weeks and months so for sure so grateful you took time today
00:20:52.440 my friend have a wonderful day and a wonderful week all right take care war
00:21:01.780 It starts right now
00:21:10.140 It's the way I was before
00:21:12.720 But I can't recall
00:21:16.020 I was those days anymore
00:21:18.260 I'm learning how
00:21:21.080 To be here and nowhere else
00:21:24.100 How to focus on
00:21:27.080 What I can do by itself
00:21:29.720 I'm not telling you all I'm going through
00:21:39.720 I've been far and far
00:21:41.720 I'm not telling you all I'm going through
00:21:45.720 I'm not telling you all I'm going through
00:21:51.720 I've been far and far
00:21:53.720 And leaving all the memories
00:21:55.720 We asked what we did when we were young
00:21:58.900 And now you could just leave me on my own
00:22:03.080 I'm moving toward a new idea
00:22:07.160 You're not what I really needed
00:22:09.920 Now you could just leave me on my own
00:22:14.420 But I'm not, I'm not you
00:22:18.260 You're part of me, you're part of me
00:22:21.520 I'm not, I'm not you
00:22:24.020 You're a part of me, you're a part of me
00:22:27.100 I'm not, I'm not in you
00:22:29.760 You're a part of me, you're a part of me
00:22:32.820 I'm not, I'm not in you
00:22:35.440 You're a part of me, you're a part of me
00:22:38.460 It's over now, it's the way I was before
00:22:47.040 But I can't recall how I was those days anymore
00:22:52.880 I'm learning how to be here and nowhere else
00:22:58.840 How to focus on what I can do by self
00:23:04.460 I'm not telling you all I'm going through
00:23:08.980 I'm not telling you all I'm going through
00:23:11.800 I'm not telling you all I'm going through
00:23:14.540 I'm here far and far
00:23:17.140 I'm not telling you all I'm going through
00:23:20.200 Not telling you all I'm going through
00:23:23.060 Not telling you all I'm going through
00:23:25.840 I've been far and
00:23:28.120 Living all the memory off
00:23:31.380 What we did when we were young
00:23:33.680 And now you could just leave me on my own
00:23:37.840 I'm moving toward a new idea
00:23:41.900 You're not what I really needed
00:23:44.640 You could just leave me on my own
00:23:49.580 Bye.
00:23:50.640 I'm not, I'm not you, you're a part of me, you're a part of me.
00:23:55.820 I'm not, I'm not you, you're a part of me, you're a part of me.
00:24:01.800 I'm not, I'm not, you, you're a part of me, you're a part of me.
00:24:07.480 I'm not, I'm not you, you're a part of me, you're a part of me.
00:24:18.760 We'll be right back.
00:24:48.760 You're about something
00:25:02.460 I'm not, I'm not you
00:25:04.960 You're a part of me
00:25:07.960 I'm not, I'm not you
00:25:10.460 You're a part of me
00:25:13.460 I'm not, I'm not you
00:25:15.960 and we're back and i'm in rainy and cold ontario and brian lilly is somewhere else where are you
00:25:33.640 brian beautiful fredericton new brunswick looking out at the saint john river um when people follow
00:25:42.260 me on social they've been seeing me post good night photos from there just stunning
00:25:47.120 it is a beautiful problem then fredericton is particularly beautiful so so greetings to all
00:25:54.880 in new brunswick so um i think well i i don't think i know you like me and my university roommates
00:26:04.940 and uh just about every everybody i know mainly guys was watching the game last night which sadly
00:26:13.860 the habs lost in overtime but it was a great game um montreal took some dumb penalties but it was a
00:26:22.180 great game i understand that you've got some political intel on uh on the canadians and the
00:26:30.040 habs and the playoffs oh yeah just two quick things because i i thought you'd find them
00:26:35.560 interesting is um down here depending on where you live and what language you speak determines
00:26:41.900 whether you're a hab fan or a lease fan even in english it's predominantly have fans um but it
00:26:48.760 reminded me of when i first moved to ottawa in the late 90s and the senators had just started
00:26:54.820 and you're talking to people and you find out oh this person's hab fan this person's a lease fan
00:26:59.440 and you asked why
00:27:01.780 and there was this squiggly line
00:27:04.000 that ran through the Ottawa Valley
00:27:05.440 across the Ontario and Quebec border
00:27:07.720 and people were fans
00:27:10.360 based on which game they got
00:27:12.160 on Saturday night
00:27:13.820 via the broadcast
00:27:15.000 if you got the Habs game
00:27:17.320 well your whole village town
00:27:20.200 they were Habs fans
00:27:21.900 and if you got the Leafs game
00:27:22.920 well you're all Leafs fans
00:27:24.040 that's how it broke down
00:27:25.880 and I still find that fascinating
00:27:28.440 going up the Ottawa Valley. But I'll tell you this. In 2006, of course, no Canadian team has
00:27:37.780 won the Stanley Cup since the Habs in 1993. In 2006, the Conservatives were in power then under
00:27:47.880 Brian Mulroney. In 2006, Harper's team got so excited when they thought the Oilers were going
00:27:54.320 to win and just got revved up thinking the cup's finally coming back uh that didn't happen and
00:28:04.280 every time that a government changes 2016 i don't think a single canadian team made the playoffs
00:28:09.440 that year um but every time that it gets close the political party and power start thinking that
00:28:17.240 they get to claim credit uh and and of course they can't the only politician that can claim
00:28:22.960 credit for winning a championship and he has many times is brad wall who uh always when he was
00:28:29.640 premier of saskatchewan love to remind people that when the ndp was in power the riders never
00:28:34.260 won but they did under him yeah and uh he's quite a guy he's still active and that they're
00:28:42.800 promoting his son colter and great guys and now we're just hoping like because now people are
00:28:48.280 talking about the carny curse because he keeps meeting with sports teams and then they lose 1.00
00:28:52.940 So we're all hoping that he doesn't meet with the Habs anytime soon. 0.99
00:28:56.540 Doesn't go to their dressing room. 0.99
00:28:58.160 Maybe he, you know, can he go see the Carolina Hurricanes?
00:29:03.780 Well, speaking of squiggly lines, I was born in Quebec, as you know.
00:29:07.940 And, you know, Irish, Catholic, everybody's liberal.
00:29:13.440 And with the exception of my parents and me,
00:29:15.840 when everybody moved to Alberta to get away from separatism,
00:29:19.940 they all became conservatives.
00:29:22.120 all my family who moved to alberta became conservatives except for us and so this week
00:29:28.520 um a lot of people are wondering what's going on in the minds of albertans and daniel smith's mind
00:29:34.120 with this 37 word question that she's put forward a referendum on a referendum in effect
00:29:41.960 on um whether alberta should be in canada or not she's got everybody mad at her she's got the
00:29:49.480 separatists you've got the federalists you've got pierre polieva said he's going to campaign
00:29:55.400 for canada first nations everybody's pissed off uh wanted to get your take on it where
00:30:01.480 you think it's going to go for the next five months in alberta it's going to be topsy-turvy
00:30:06.760 it's going to be wild um look separatism in alberta is up in the polls so is danielle smith
00:30:14.920 And so is Mark Carney. It's a bizarre world out there. Our latest Leger poll for Postmedia has the Carney liberals at 41% in Alberta. How many seats would they win in Alberta if they got 41%? Last election, by the way, they won 26% of the vote, got two seats.
00:30:36.520 so where do you put that um my guess is that they would win seats that they wouldn't win in
00:30:45.380 because they signed a pipeline deal it's a bizarre world out there right now and um i know danielle
00:30:52.660 smith i i know you're not a fan i read your column that went in the the paper and the only thing i
00:30:58.640 corrected was a a mistake not about her and other than that you know I know
00:31:09.500 you're not a fan but she is a Federalist and she is someone who wants Alberta
00:31:14.840 stay in Canada but she's got a caucus and a base where at least 40 50 percent
00:31:21.680 don't and it's interesting full comment podcast that comes out Monday interview
00:31:28.520 This guy, Paul Colburn, he's with Surge Energy, CEO.
00:31:32.700 Vast experience in the energy sector over many, many decades.
00:31:40.220 This guy's bullish on Carney.
00:31:42.180 So he's bullish on Carney.
00:31:45.360 He's bullish on Canada.
00:31:47.500 He is a CEO in the oil sector.
00:31:49.900 I think that Carney is making the right moves.
00:31:53.280 um i hope he continues to make the right moves to to keep make alberta want to stay 0.97
00:32:00.520 but look we've treated western canada not just alberta we've treated them like crap for years 0.75
00:32:07.420 and every time they've complained and said well wait a minute uh this isn't working out for us 0.99
00:32:12.640 we patted them on the head and said they're there run along we need to deal with quebec 0.97
00:32:16.920 that's not a good way to run a country yeah but kicking a hornet's nest is not a good way to run 1.00
00:32:22.520 province and that's what everybody everybody you you're the only guy i can find is saying nice
00:32:28.600 things about her like brian everybody's pissed off at her everybody feels that she's made a
00:32:33.880 mistake or let them down or betrayed them or whatever everybody's pissed off at her
00:32:38.840 how does that possibly assist the province and her politically
00:32:45.960 there's a large part of the province that wants this referendum
00:32:49.400 whether you and I do or not.
00:32:51.000 I want Alberta to stay.
00:32:52.820 But there's a large part of the population of Alberta
00:32:56.440 that wants the referendum.
00:32:57.900 And if you deny them the referendum,
00:32:59.860 if you play political games to make sure it doesn't happen,
00:33:04.580 that increases.
00:33:05.460 So I think she's trying to manage a setup 0.99
00:33:10.100 where if she doesn't do things like this, 0.77
00:33:15.140 support for separation grows.
00:33:17.840 That's how I read it.
00:33:19.400 that she is trying to manage the situation the best that she can i do not think she's
00:33:25.800 the closet separatist i do not think that she is trying to do this to take albert out um
00:33:33.080 i mean look at the deal that she signed with carney that has caused her an awful lot of flack
00:33:38.520 people said oh well you agreed to uh 130 an effective industrial carbon tax of 130 a ton by
00:33:46.680 2040. I mean, if she didn't do that, it was going to be $170 a ton by 2030. So she got a better deal 0.76
00:33:55.480 for Alberta. She has put water in her wine there. She is trying to manage a place that Howard 0.79
00:34:02.080 Anglin, former principal secretary to Premier Jason Kenney, he once said to me, the province
00:34:08.760 at times is ungovernable because of these very strong divided factions.
00:34:16.340 If you held a vote today, Calgary and Edmonton would vote to stay.
00:34:20.300 A good chunk of the rest of the province would say, we're out of here.
00:34:23.840 And so you'd have like a Berlin Wall situation on Calgary and Edmonton.
00:34:29.080 We'd be dropping aid and supplies into them.
00:34:32.780 Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. 0.77
00:34:35.180 I don't think she's particularly bright. 1.00
00:34:37.060 I think she's made a big political mistake.
00:34:39.500 I think the population, the sentiment she has to manage 0.95
00:34:43.860 is in her own caucus.
00:34:45.120 It's not in the province.
00:34:46.580 I grew up there, and as much as Albertans
00:34:51.460 have legitimate grievances about how they're treated
00:34:54.360 within Canada, they don't want to leave it.
00:34:57.040 But anyway, we're in for five months of a hell of a ride,
00:34:59.560 and thank you, Danielle Smith.
00:35:01.380 But I wanted to ask you about thanking somebody else.
00:35:04.160 like it's it's pretty hard to figure out what is taking place in the middle east
00:35:09.080 donald trump skipped his son's wedding this weekend now he's known the man a long time
00:35:15.660 that's right you know he doesn't have to go so you know the al jazeera so i stress everybody
00:35:24.300 take whatever al jazeera has to say skeptically al jazeera and and some others are reporting that
00:35:33.300 Iran gets to keep the Strait of Hormuz. They get $20 billion in reparations. They get to keep
00:35:41.180 their highly enriched uranium. And the regime of Islamic terrorists, fascists, lunatics stays in 1.00
00:35:49.420 place, which is pretty complete defeat for Trump. Rubio this morning is saying, not so fast. It's 0.99
00:35:56.920 not done yet just wait what are you hearing what's your take look i was never a fan of obama's deal
00:36:05.840 with iran nobody was and and then i wasn't a fan when biden went in and said we're going to
00:36:16.900 uh unfreeze all your assets and effectively gave them what i believe that it was six billion
00:36:23.160 if trump gives them 20 billion dollars that will be a worse deal by a magnitude of more than three
00:36:31.760 of uh compared to the biden deal he cannot do that um you you are not a fan of this
00:36:41.400 president at all but you actually support the war yeah i did it for a regime change for
00:36:48.840 preventing them from having nukes and for you know stopping them from killing their own people
00:36:52.980 but none of those things have been achieved according to some reports that we're hearing
00:36:57.840 like it's a disaster for israel in the world it um it looked in the early days like hey okay
00:37:06.520 quick regime change and this is fine andrew jackson style which is uh hit them hard and 0.67
00:37:12.620 tell them don't make me come back and hit you hard again but you know they have not been able
00:37:18.800 to topple the regime.
00:37:20.220 The IRGC remains in charge,
00:37:22.540 and I don't know what comes next.
00:37:26.960 He knows that he can't be in a forever war
00:37:29.420 or it kills his party in the midterms,
00:37:31.340 but, you know, this war may kill his party
00:37:34.100 in the midterms anyway.
00:37:36.840 But giving them $20 billion
00:37:38.420 and allowing them to keep all that
00:37:40.080 and control the Strait of Hormuz,
00:37:42.600 that is a disaster. 0.99
00:37:46.040 Just to bring it back to Canada for a second, 0.99
00:37:48.120 Do note that the UAE started another pipeline to avoid the Stradformers, and they started last year, and it will be completed next year. 0.98
00:37:59.920 And we're talking about, well, after two and a half years, we'll come to a decision by September 1st, 2027, on whether to build one, and then it will take six years after that to actually build it. 0.97
00:38:14.460 i mean that's horrible but the whole whole gulf uh states area i don't you know you hear that they
00:38:22.620 they talk trump out of starting up bombing again and negating the uh uh the the ceasefire
00:38:31.660 and then you're hearing that well no they want to start again i don't know what they're doing but i
00:38:36.060 can't imagine that the gulf allies are going to be happy if he allows them to walk away with the
00:38:44.460 uh, uh, the description of the deal that you just, uh, gave.
00:38:48.820 Yeah. Well, listen, uh, I'm going to be in,
00:38:52.420 I'm going to be in Israel next week for the debut of our documentary at the
00:38:56.740 Tel Aviv documentary festival.
00:38:58.160 So I will have on the ground reporting for you. And, uh,
00:39:02.880 so we can talk about all of that and, but enjoy.
00:39:05.660 You'll have better weather next week than I will.
00:39:08.540 I sure will.
00:39:09.540 Tel Aviv, which is, uh,
00:39:11.660 an incredibly beautiful city with great weather,
00:39:14.520 and I'll be in Toronto at that point,
00:39:17.840 a city that can't decide whether it wants spring to arrive or not.
00:39:22.340 Brian, come on.
00:39:23.820 She's created more bike lanes, okay?
00:39:26.540 Like it's, you know, it just gets better and better.
00:39:30.700 So listen, have a great remaining day in beautiful New Brunswick
00:39:34.800 and with your family, and have a great and safe trip back,
00:39:40.020 and i'll be talking to you very soon thank you sir talk talk soon
00:40:10.020 Then I'm a strip when it's with it to the tent
00:40:13.140 So, thanks to the dealership
00:40:15.540 And you're looking mighty ghostly
00:40:17.440 Just like Bowie on Soul Train
00:40:19.860 Wrapped in your sable
00:40:21.400 That's been thrown to break like the night
00:40:23.740 Oh, it looks so nice to me
00:40:27.080 Oh, no
00:40:28.260 So what? I wasn't having no nightmares
00:40:31.300 Probably because I couldn't catch the ground
00:40:34.580 What? And I am some kind of man
00:40:39.100 Oh, Angie has a dream dream, since you're wrong
00:40:46.100 When I leave, you're underneath my body
00:40:52.100 The sacred truly is terrifying in the
00:41:09.100 You're telling me the truth, getting goosebumps on your roof
00:41:24.980 Friendship's the biggest myth, hard to skip it like a Cessna
00:41:29.300 Out of falling free, living the space between
00:41:33.480 Caller chatting from the dark
00:41:35.500 St. Paul's late on the porch
00:41:37.280 My love met on
00:41:40.160 Impositive sobriety
00:41:41.960 Birthdays
00:41:43.320 The fifth of mission anniversary
00:41:45.560 Why am I
00:41:48.780 Some kind of handball
00:41:51.840 Empty as a dream
00:41:56.100 Grand central block ball
00:41:58.820 Remember to leave underneath my body
00:42:03.900 That shape of true love is terrifying enough
00:42:28.820 We'll be right back.
00:42:58.820 And we're back. We're back with my friend Karima.
00:43:02.580 And Karima, you've been in Israel more recently than me as a reporter.
00:43:07.800 I'm heading there in a few days' time.
00:43:10.680 And I guess the biggest story, apart from the deal, in quotation marks,
00:43:16.300 we'll talk about that in a minute, has been the flotilla.
00:43:19.760 I think this is their third attempt to achieve a beachhead in Israel or Gaza,
00:43:25.700 and they got caught, and some of them I thought were treated badly
00:43:34.060 by a lunatic minister in Netanyahu's cabinet
00:43:37.140 who made a video that embarrassed Israel. 0.91
00:43:40.720 But the flatella people, I guess they're pretty determined, aren't they?
00:43:48.000 Yeah, as far as I understand, it's been over a decade
00:43:52.520 that people have participated in similar flotilla actions.
00:43:58.440 And this particular batch was of interest to me
00:44:01.460 because there is a very regular protester
00:44:05.480 who we see at all sorts of demonstrations
00:44:08.540 who was en route and was doing updates
00:44:12.060 from the Mediterranean Sea,
00:44:14.140 and in fact will now be returning to Canada via Turkey
00:44:17.560 this evening.
00:44:19.380 Who's that? Do tell.
00:44:20.540 That's Daniela Bonamico, who, if you watch my footage, certainly you would know her by face and by voice, though not necessarily by name.
00:44:34.880 And she's very, how do we put this?
00:44:38.580 And she has a certain style, and that style is very in your face and very unapologetic.
00:44:52.800 And she's a decent speaker, but beneath that is really layer upon layer of hostility.
00:45:05.100 And at times it seems hatred.
00:45:08.580 And if she is at all indicative of the type of activists who end up on these flotillas, then I think it's fair to say that this as a form of activism is largely meant to be performative.
00:45:32.480 Daniella is a performer. Before the protest circuit, she was, you know, auditioning for reality TV shows and doing burlesque dancing on stage.
00:45:45.640 And, you know, she is a naturally gifted performer. And in the aftermath of this, and I agree with you, there was footage that emerged that was intended to humiliate these flotilla participants.
00:46:02.640 It looked like they were in stressed positions for who knows how long being forced to listen to the national anthem of Israel on repeat. And that's just what we saw in the clip that was published, right?
00:46:17.380 There's a whole lot of question marks about what happened and some pretty serious allegations coming out of this, including from the Prime Minister and our Minister of Foreign Affairs, who have used words like abominable, abomination maybe, or something, a very, very strong adjective, appalling, things along those lines.
00:46:42.680 So it remains to be seen exactly what happened. But I do want to just highlight the return of these Sotila activists in Spain was met by the local police force. They ended up beating some of these Sotila activists with batons.
00:47:05.540 And I've searched for footage from different angles because as someone who's on the ground, I'm very familiar with the concept that, you know, depending on where you start a clip, you're going to have a different understanding of what transpired.
00:47:21.020 So I have looked for as much footage as possible. It seems to me that these activists upon return kind of posed for some photos, but they were blocking the exit where other passengers from non-flotilla related adventures were coming through.
00:47:41.580 And the police officer kind of moved them. There was one guy, one activist who maybe had a chip on his shoulder and he started tussling and then the whole scene unraveled.
00:47:52.600 And that's where these shocking images of people being beaten with batons, it all emerged from this little mini temporary maybe blockade affecting other passengers, a cop who wanted to move them aside and an activist who refused.
00:48:11.000 And that's kind of this in a nutshell.
00:48:14.540 It's just, you know, so it is maybe effective as a form of activism as far as drawing attention and galvanizing opinions, but it is performative.
00:48:27.980 Yeah, and I and many others noted, well, there's Anita Anand condemning what took place in Israel with this one cabinet minister, but here's the same people getting the shit beat out of them with batons in Spain, and she said, had nary a peep about that.
00:48:48.080 she hasn't summoned the spanish ambassador but it's um hot again i'm heading into a
00:48:54.320 a hot zone in the next few days and interesting your take so you've got al jazeer this morning
00:49:01.300 saying that uh iran's regime which is more hard line than before remains in place they keep the
00:49:09.320 highly enriched uranium they keep control of the strait of hermuz and they get 20 billion in
00:49:14.500 reparations uh in cnn and the new york times and elsewhere marco rubio saying not so fast
00:49:20.760 don't believe everything you see don't believe everything you read what's your take where you
00:49:25.940 think it's going like it to me it looks like a total capitulation for trump but maybe maybe not
00:49:31.740 it's so hard to have a take when there's completely divergent statements about what's
00:49:42.260 happening and it's in fact polar opposite. So I don't know. The only take, I guess, and I have said
00:49:50.800 before, I'm not an expert on geopolitics in this region. So I have a basic understanding and grasp
00:49:57.360 on who's who and what's what and geography, but I'm by no means an expert. So what seems apparent
00:50:04.500 to me and you know this isn't unique to this situation but it sort of seems to be on a
00:50:12.380 different scale is the level of posturing and kind of the way that media social media and
00:50:20.480 regular media is being used kind of as these mouthpieces or outlets and they're speaking
00:50:27.920 not just to each other at these negotiation tables,
00:50:32.000 but all of this is happening on, you know, the larger scale,
00:50:35.980 which maybe is a theme in what we're talking about,
00:50:39.320 the presumptive nature of this.
00:50:41.860 If, yeah, as you've described, those are the terms
00:50:45.600 and that's what we end up with, capitulation, sure,
00:50:49.800 but it was sort of a foolhardy mission to begin with.
00:50:54.580 um and i don't know that the u.s needs another eternal war um there hasn't been approval for
00:51:01.460 that certainly um we seem to have bypassed uh some of the regular channels um that that are
00:51:08.500 checks and balances um so yeah if i was i would want to extricate myself as soon as possible
00:51:15.620 but it's hard to know what's going on in any of their heads because apart from you know the ego
00:51:21.700 And the greed or the avarice or whatever these ulterior motives are, you know, there's just a little bit of crazy in there, too.
00:51:32.980 So it's hard to say, hard to say what's going on.
00:51:35.800 I just am grateful every day to wake up and it's still not all been moot.
00:51:41.740 Yeah, well, a little bit of crazy is a good way of depicting it.
00:51:45.040 And you're just about a thousand times smarter than Donald Trump.
00:51:49.040 But you also are partly of Palestinian descent, of Indian descent,
00:51:53.920 and you have an appreciation for world affairs.
00:51:56.940 To me, I'm old enough to remember the Iranian regime
00:52:01.420 defeating Jimmy Carter, not releasing the hostages
00:52:05.480 until the hour that Ronald Reagan was sworn in.
00:52:10.620 They defeated Jimmy Carter.
00:52:12.580 Do you think, as an observer, a smarter observer of world affairs
00:52:18.540 and politics do you think that this this um war of misfortune could defeat trump final question
00:52:26.460 oh that's a great question yeah i i wouldn't put that off the table at all um you know it's a big
00:52:34.300 mistake to underestimate iranians period yeah they take tend to look at history in thousand year
00:52:42.620 increments. And it just, it blows me away that, you know, I always, I think, you know, I supported
00:52:50.460 taking out this regime that was slaughtering their own people, women, LGBTQ people and dissidents. 0.55
00:52:59.520 And, you know, for that reason alone, it was merited, but it was just like, hey, boys and
00:53:04.980 girls, this is not Venezuela. You're not gonna be able to pop in there with a few Apaches and 0.77
00:53:09.260 be able to fly out, you know, with the regime and have a big change. That's obviously what 0.98
00:53:15.820 Trump desired, but it's not what he got. My friend, thank you so much. Have a great day
00:53:21.180 and a great week. And I'll be talking to you next week from Israel.
00:53:25.820 Thank you and safe travels.
00:53:27.440 Thank you.
00:53:39.260 Get your turn
00:53:40.380 Get stunned
00:53:43.980 You're not having fun
00:53:47.280 You've got nothing to prove
00:53:51.560 Get down, just watch and learn
00:53:54.440 I'm done
00:53:58.080 Ready to burn 1.00
00:54:01.460 Because you are stupid 1.00
00:54:05.700 You've never learned 1.00
00:54:08.500 I'm done
00:54:12.120 Ready to burst
00:54:15.560 And now it's time that you get down and face the burn
00:54:22.620 I'm done
00:54:26.100 I'm tossing a turn
00:54:31.580 It's hard to see through the miles of razor burn
00:54:36.620 Get stunned, yeah
00:54:40.920 Are we having fun, yeah
00:54:44.460 You've got nothing to lose
00:54:47.640 Somehow that makes it worse
00:54:50.620 I'm done
00:54:54.160 Ready to burn
00:54:57.540 The wrong way you can't 0.91
00:55:01.760 Then notice what you did
00:55:04.660 I'm done
00:55:08.260 Ready to burst
00:55:11.660 You try to break the curse but never make it work, oh no
00:55:19.160 I never drift because I can't fall asleep without a light on
00:55:24.920 Leave on the TV screen, deep dive on Pokémon
00:55:28.120 I'm Tokyo Loliplay, I'm Billions of Eternity
00:55:31.740 I'm happy honestly cause I don't have to go to sleep
00:55:35.920 I'm ready to burn 0.90
00:55:44.640 I'm ready to burn 0.99
00:55:48.340 I'm ready to burn 0.99
00:55:52.240 Ready to burn 0.99
00:55:55.740 Ready to burn 0.89
00:55:59.000 Ready to burn 1.00
00:56:01.960 You bow for the floor 0.99
00:56:03.800 Now it's your turn
00:56:05.700 Yeah!
00:56:25.740 and we're back and as a final surprise segment i brought back e why have i done that well her
00:56:35.920 segment inexplicably was a big hit last week and people wanted to hear more from her and less from
00:56:43.140 me dd what are you doing stop something must be under there that she wants to get out no she's 0.85
00:56:49.720 just bored and let's cut the crap i'm only here because you couldn't find somebody else to do it 0.97
00:56:54.000 No, that's not true. 0.99
00:56:55.480 No, I got all the regulars.
00:56:56.980 I got Brian and Karima and Carl, and I can get anybody I want on my show.
00:57:00.620 I've had prime ministers and premiers.
00:57:02.840 Yeah, I'm sure they're all sitting around on a Sunday morning waiting for your call.
00:57:06.880 You know what's weird, though?
00:57:08.080 Like, as I've kind of moved through life over the past few years,
00:57:12.760 doing, I think this is episode 415,
00:57:15.820 people will come up to me, usually in a whisper,
00:57:20.340 and say, I listen to your podcast every week.
00:57:23.960 And I'm like, you do?
00:57:25.060 Do they whisper because they're a thing?
00:57:26.700 I think so.
00:57:27.840 Yeah, but like, okay, well, here's something that we can disclose to the world.
00:57:32.500 We kind of connected for the first time, really, over the podcast, didn't we?
00:57:40.020 Yes, that is true.
00:57:42.160 Yeah, I suppose.
00:57:43.360 Outside of you kind of talking to me at my former business, yes.
00:57:48.840 You had a podcast.
00:57:49.840 I was thinking of starting one.
00:57:51.740 I reached out to you online for some advice.
00:57:55.780 But that was ready to hit on me, wasn't it?
00:57:58.640 Well, I think I could go back in those messages.
00:58:00.860 I don't think there was an air of flirtation in them.
00:58:02.800 I think it was all very brass tacks,
00:58:05.860 what microphones do you use type situation.
00:58:07.820 But sure, if you want to take it that way, by all means.
00:58:11.120 Well, I ended up lending to my microphones,
00:58:15.620 which did a terrible job for her podcast.
00:58:17.840 What is the name of your podcast again?
00:58:19.340 everything on the table with enid and jill and it's um about food and menopause and
00:58:26.780 it's not about menopause it just flirts into it it's mostly about food it's just
00:58:32.240 two best friends talking with a recording device in front of them so i am uh so we live together
00:58:39.580 would you guys stop stop welcome to our life labs growling and fighting with each other at our feet
00:58:48.420 I'm leaving for Israel in a few days.
00:58:50.400 Are you worried about me?
00:58:51.880 No.
00:58:52.740 Why aren't you worried?
00:58:53.640 I mean, it's a hot spot.
00:58:55.320 It's war.
00:58:56.420 Here, I'm going to put them outside. 0.92
00:58:57.640 Here we go again.
00:58:58.480 Everybody must think we do this every week.
00:59:00.680 Okay, come here.
00:59:01.980 Actually, we kind of do.
00:59:03.260 Come on. 0.90
00:59:03.780 Let's go.
00:59:04.420 Outside.
00:59:05.640 Out.
00:59:07.080 Out. 0.98
00:59:07.760 Dee Dee, out.
00:59:09.100 Joey, out. 1.00
00:59:11.700 Just shut the door a bit.
00:59:14.720 Man, it's just like last week.
00:59:17.760 So why aren't you worried about me? 1.00
00:59:21.320 Because it's Israel.
00:59:22.580 It'll be fine. 0.98
00:59:23.920 I've experienced more close calls in Israel than you have.
00:59:26.960 Tell people about your close call.
00:59:28.780 It was barely a close call.
00:59:30.620 I was leaving. 1.00
00:59:31.260 It was a fucking missile. 0.99
00:59:33.060 Yeah, which I wasn't anywhere near. 1.00
00:59:34.760 I saw the aftermath.
00:59:35.500 I was heading to the airport, Ben Gurion Airport,
00:59:41.680 and I had a lovely cab driver who was a Yemeni Jewish man,
00:59:47.760 who was a fantastic man, and you had messaged me beforehand to let me know that a missile strike
00:59:55.760 had happened near the airport, near being an interesting turn of phrase, as we were pulling
01:00:02.800 into the main area of Ben Gurion. Traffic was slowed, but not stalled, and my cab driver was
01:00:10.980 going on about Hezbollah and Houthis. He was quite aggravated, I suppose because of the missile,
01:00:19.700 but more so because the traffic had slowed up a bit because they had members of the police and
01:00:30.080 the military just checking cars as they came in and out of the airport. So we were going into our
01:00:37.300 terminal and just as we were approaching a bit of a stop to be checked over the cab driver told me
01:00:44.940 to look to my left and there in fact was the missile about 25 feet from our car and i would
01:00:51.480 say less than 200 feet from terminal three which is where you were going so it was quite close
01:00:57.680 interestingly enough in the airport really not too chaotic if this had been at pearson it would
01:01:03.700 have been a full-on apocalyptic scene, but this was sort of de rigueur. There were people down in
01:01:11.560 the bomb shelter down below, but by the time I arrived at the gate, it was just a matter of
01:01:16.720 finding a new flight to get me home, which ended up being quite easy, and I actually got home
01:01:22.220 earlier than I would have. On LL, which is all the pilots are former military, so that's how I'm
01:01:29.080 flying to Israel. I'm going through New Jersey. That's going to be quite interesting. But anyway,
01:01:34.200 um, so you're not worried about me heading into this war zone. No. Okay. What about me heading
01:01:40.000 to Africa? Well, originally, uh, you were going to Uganda, which is a bit of a hotspot right now.
01:01:48.240 Um, but no, I'm not worried about that either. I don't worry anywhere I travel, travel. And so
01:01:53.720 you're pretty level-headed not as level-headed as i am but you're pretty level-headed when you're
01:01:59.340 travel so now you've done a lot of traveling on your own a woman young woman traveling you're not
01:02:05.580 as young as you were but you're young um traveling on your own this morning with my back like just
01:02:11.060 giving you guys an example she loves pearl jam and um she drove across north america to go see
01:02:18.460 pearl jam in texas didn't you was it yeah i got last minute tickets to south by southwest so you
01:02:23.980 drove across the united states by yourself yeah it's much much more fun that way isn't that crazy
01:02:30.600 90 of my world travel has been solo i rarely take on an additional person and i can handle
01:02:37.320 said additional person for about 48 hours before i need a break so did you want to kill me when we
01:02:42.400 were in new york last time there's been moments where i've needed a little bit of a break
01:02:48.240 you you tap out of things earlier than i do such as walking well i brought the i brought my boots
01:02:54.700 my docks big mistake big mistake no you're just a little passenger princess who just wants to be
01:03:02.040 driven around everywhere where i like to hoof it so i can you know see interesting things and go
01:03:07.200 down streets that a cab wouldn't go down or see shops that just whiz by if you're in a car yeah
01:03:12.800 Yeah, but it's true. It's like LBJ says, you know, when you have been in the backseat of an armored limo motorcade, things are never quite the same after that, are they? 0.94
01:03:24.140 Well, you've never been in one of those.
01:03:25.600 No, I was. I was with Crenci once. Just my quick story. When Pierre Trudeau sadly passed away, I was up in Ottawa, up to pay my respects and see some people. And I was in front of the Langevin block and an armored motorcade pulled up, black limo, window rolls down. There's Jean Crencian, Prime Minister of all of Canada. And he goes, get in.
01:03:51.200 Kidnapping you.
01:03:51.880 Yeah, and then we went to 24 Sussex, which is now just a shell of itself.
01:03:57.740 Well, I'm going to miss you.
01:04:01.100 I don't know if you're going to miss me.
01:04:02.920 Yeah, there'll be a solid 48 hours where I'm longing.
01:04:06.160 But then I'll realize that the house is tidier and the dogs are calmer
01:04:09.880 and there's less junk food around for me to eat.
01:04:13.800 Yeah, we have a junk food drawer.
01:04:16.440 You have a junk food drawer.
01:04:17.840 I have a junk food drawer.
01:04:19.020 and um like i don't i don't drink yeah i used to drink beer and i don't really drink beer like i
01:04:26.120 used to like guinness zero i like corona zero now but i still have the junk food drawer like i need
01:04:32.340 to i think i think the safer bet would be drinking the beer and not eating the junk food
01:04:37.420 take it from a chef okay well listen if i die um just check out my will says who my guitar
01:04:45.040 should go to okay okay all right and i bought a guitar yesterday you didn't know that you bought
01:04:49.720 a guitar yesterday it's a little fender precision copy it's called a mini don't give me squinty eyes
01:04:59.100 that was a necessary purchase well when i was at best edict last week giving a talk
01:05:03.800 one of the women who runs the synagogue she's so cool she's from africa and she told me about this 0.99
01:05:10.200 amazing guitar and show me a picture of it because she plays and I'm like I gotta get that fucking 1.00
01:05:15.380 guitar yeah she's probably getting a kickback this is your ego at play the pretty woman at the 1.00
01:05:20.860 synagogue has a cool guitar I gotta go get that guitar no she's like a real musician she plays
01:05:26.020 piano and everything she's pretty awesome but anyway um okay well you you know you can give
01:05:31.500 that one to my friends so um so go Habs thank you thank you E. Always a pleasure
01:05:40.200 Thank you.
01:06:10.200 Thank you.
01:06:40.200 Thank you.
01:07:10.200 I'll see you next time.
01:07:40.200 Thank you.
01:08:10.200 Thank you.
01:08:40.200 Thank you.
01:09:10.200 We'll be right back.