00:01:00.780Sid Lukasen is a Dutch political philosopher, historian, and author.
00:01:05.320He holds a PhD from Radbounds University, can't pronounce that, on representative democracy and the conditions of communication.
00:01:14.080His dissertation was toned down on certain passages about Islam before publication.
00:01:20.200He started in the VVD, local councillor in Duven for years, and later moved into Forum for Democracy circles and has worked in and around the European Parliament.
00:01:30.960His main books include, I can't pronounce it, Evening Land in Identity, 2015, three more books, De Democratie et Ar Media, I'm sorry, I'm butchering Dutch.0.99
00:01:47.340it's not in my language school um ways angrodelgic please van de moose i'm butchering it and the
00:01:58.440english language what the world can learn from the fall of the west which is your latest book
00:02:03.000themes run through them western decline identity cultural marxism media capture islam and
00:02:10.800immigration geopolitics and the tension between individual sovereignty and mass society he has
00:02:16.700described himself as a radical humanist, and a chronicler of a civilization in its late phase,
00:02:21.700more right-realist than traditional conservative or alt-right in his own framing. Public reception
00:02:27.720is polarized. Supporters treat him as a clear-eyed analyst who predicted several developments early.
00:02:33.660Critics label him extreme right and point to controversies, including the Kerak Honeypot
00:02:39.620film episode, which he has framed as him being set up and exploited, and periods of personal
00:06:42.180We're going immediately very, very far in depth.
00:06:44.620I'll just make some preliminary comments on that.
00:06:46.640I would say, well, you have more Aristoteles
00:06:48.780Aristoteles, we were talking more about the polis, which is like a community where you can still know one another personally, right?
00:06:56.760So your interests and the interests of your dear ones, your closest ones, become more or less each other's extensions.
00:07:03.180And then you have like a natural sense of camaraderie and of solidarity because it's taking place within a community that you can still like oversee.
00:07:39.780I was recently commenting on, you've got the Veil of Ignorance, Jonathan Rawls, who utterly destroyed the legal system.
00:07:51.180What if we pretend that we don't know who we're going to be born as, we're behind the Veil of Ignorance, and we'll build the perfect society?0.99
00:19:25.220Ley lines are an idiot trying to just draw lines between important...0.99
00:19:31.840Like, he's being a fake geographer and pretending it's magic, okay?0.99
00:19:35.080so leylines are bs however the chinese do dragon lines and dragon lines are like it's like feng shui0.56
00:19:44.760for geography like the leylines are the are the path that the dragons made in the people who
00:19:51.240believe in dragons right that the leylines are the the path that the dragons made in the when
00:19:55.640the earth was still warm and then and then the channels were dug inside the earth crossed by
00:20:02.760the dragons right well that's that's what i did is i went around the property paying attention to
00:20:07.740where the dragon lines are like where is the water entering what's the slope of the hill
00:20:12.460where does the power concentrate where are the uh the entrances eggs like what is the story of this
00:20:19.040land and that's particular that is that is ethnos that is polis that is
00:20:31.680that is integrated individuated, not the individuated isolated, not the individual as human resource.
00:20:42.700You're talking about based and grounded, you're talking about being based and grounded.
00:20:47.500Exactly, and finding those places of significance.
00:20:53.440But I guess it goes back to what you've talked about before, Christian cockery,0.97
00:20:58.280because before you had like the visigoths and all sort of people like0.99
00:21:02.400european people that like it goes a bit like lord of the rings where they have
00:21:06.140this draugr hole or the draugr spirits live and all that stuff they're like
00:21:09.720stories goes back to giants and ghosts and
00:21:13.320animated wells and whatever right um but then you suddenly start roaming
00:21:18.280around and you lose the connection to all that
00:21:21.100stuff that's been built up by your fathers and your grandfathers and so
00:21:24.200So now, you get massive people displacement, and suddenly you find yourself that you want some sort of universalist religion.
00:21:33.560And ta-da! You have Stoicism, you have Christianity, you have cosmopolitanism, all that to answer to exactly the being uprooted from what you call the ethos, as you call it, or ethnos, or how do you call it?
00:31:50.400Yeah, yeah, that's right. The stencil-draies were the journalists, right? So the people who were making the leaflets and the pamphlets about sexual liberation, about racist oppression and all that, those were the people who became the journalists.1.00
00:32:02.320and they then became institutional journalists
00:32:05.500where they were subsidizing themselves to be journalists
00:34:24.320The National Anthem of Canada, they changed the lyric to make it gender neutral, but the National Anthem used to say, in all of our sons' command.0.94
00:34:34.680Now it says, in all our people's command, our people kind, I don't fucking know.0.99
00:38:04.620So that's why I wrote my book, What the World Can Learn from the Fall of the West, because you can't talk about these things and expect that the elite takes that serious, because I've been talking about these things for decades now. So I just hope that like in Japan, India, Korea, people read this book and like, oh fuck, London is no longer London, like Paris. It used to have this grandiosity, this grandeur, but it's all gone now. It's being taken over by what actually? By a mob of rooted people from all over the world.0.96
00:38:33.280and then maybe they'll take this book serious and become part of their academic discourse and then
00:38:38.080when the politicians and the scientists and the high is up outside of the west start talking about
00:38:42.880how the west lost its atmosphere its own cultural character then the western elites can no longer
00:38:48.560play it off or dismiss it right and then by by by influencing the people on the outside through them
00:38:54.400you can eventually maybe finally get through to the people on the inside that's why i named my
00:39:01.040book what the world can learn from the fall of the world and also just to chronicle it
00:39:05.200so that those who come after us that they can learn from it and that they can
00:39:10.320extract knowledge from both the build-up and the collapse of a civilization and how that really
00:39:16.240happens because we lived it we analyzed it we studied we were part of it we saw it firsthand
00:55:58.100Like, maybe you're the guy, maybe you're the guy that, like, you picked the right, you went to university, you picked the right major.
00:56:06.240um like if you went to university 20 years ago and you studied geology
00:56:12.960um you have a job right now i'm not saying that out of a place of jealousy maybe a little bit of
00:56:19.980jealousy but when you were when you were 18 and going to university it wasn't obvious that geology
00:56:27.780would earn you enough money to have a wife in 20 years time it was not self-evident1.00
00:56:34.440um like programming used to be a real degree and now go fuck yourself we hired a bunch of indians0.99
00:56:43.280right yeah just learn the code bro okay but you're getting replaced by uh chat gpt by cloud and by a0.99
00:56:51.000whole bunch of uh indians as we speak yeah just learn the code bro yeah so that's right some of0.99
00:56:57.320us have been lucky um and actually you know i should acknowledge i've been lucky i swing a0.98
00:57:02.400sledgehammer for my freaking job i got an iq that's right excess of 140 and i swing a fucking0.61
00:57:09.800sledgehammer and i'm doing way better than most people as you said david and i think it's one of0.97
00:57:15.940the most enlightened things you ever said in one of your your podcasts you said if you can make
00:57:23.080100 bucks an hour by digging ditches and nobody wants to do it do it the shovel and do it and
00:57:28.420So we're all doing what we can, and some of us are lucky enough that they can afford wives, but systemically, we are being subverted and undermined.
00:57:43.220And even if you're one of the guys that's, like, I don't want to say luck, because there's a lot of hard work.
00:57:49.560I'm not saying that any of us is lucky and sitting on clouds nine.
01:15:08.380Like the Nordic Skull. Well, to be able to tell a story.
01:15:16.380Yes, and a bard, like a traditional bard, can tell perfect rhyming poetry about a story.
01:15:25.380He can do a six-hour bardic presentation. That's easy. That's normal. That's basic bardic skills.0.96
01:15:36.380Yeah, like back then with Muhammad, people knew the Koran by mind, for instance.0.91
01:15:41.800That's why they only wrote down the Koran 200 years after the death of Muhammad,
01:15:45.920because they were all reciting that stuff entirely melodically from memory.0.84
01:15:52.120Writing down books was a new idea when Jesus died.
01:15:56.140Yeah, because even Plato was kind of skeptical about it.
01:15:59.920Of course, he did write himself, but there's also letters of Plato where he basically says,
01:16:04.200well there's writing we shouldn't do too much of it because you kind of people get lazy they don't
01:16:08.920practice their memory anymore yeah look at the druids we we know all everything we know about
01:16:15.900the druids comes from julius caesar yeah that's right because that's absolutely right it's good
01:16:21.700that you know that but caesar also wrote about unicorns in the same book he also wrote that
01:16:25.720unicorns existed and for instance saint augustine wrote that giants existed and bizarre things they
01:16:31.120Right, and then you have Adam of Bremer, who basically just recites, he makes like a geographical tour through the north of Europe,
01:16:37.820but at some point he's just talking about all these ancient mythical creatures from like Odyssey that exist in the north, so, yeah, continue.
01:16:46.300Yeah, we've got all of our best sources that we totally rely upon for understanding the ancient world also say that unicorns existed.
01:17:00.220Hyperborea. Hyperborea is, now, I'm not saying Hyperborea exists, I do align more or less with the traditional, like, with the mainstream understanding of archaeology.
01:40:36.360Absolutely. One chapter is entirely devoted to Islam, and also the Christian response to Islam in Europe, what kind of shape it could take.
01:40:48.760What are your own religious attitudes?1.00
01:40:55.360Well, at this point, the West is so fucked. I like to compare it to a father and a son.0.99
01:41:04.260so the father and the son are in a very big disagreement
01:41:08.140so maybe you're completely sour bitter relationship but then this father he gets
01:41:15.580word that the son is going to marry and then he has a choice either to go to the marriage or not
01:41:20.640to go to the marriage and even if he goes to the marriage maybe he won't even talk with his son
01:41:25.980maybe they won't even exchange a word but at least he will have attendant and there is a bond no
01:41:30.560matter how weak or how shaky but there is a bond but if he doesn't go to his son's wedding then
01:41:37.200he will know that he'll never get to see his son again the rest of his life and they'll never
01:41:41.380exchange words that he's going to be either standing in an urn above the the fireplace or
01:41:48.960he's going to go in between between six lids disappearing to the earth and that's going to
01:41:54.640happen before he'll ever speak to his son right he'll die before they won't ever talk again
01:42:25.640as long as you don't if you would address me as mister
01:42:28.000then i would correct you then i would say doctor but as long as you address me as it because we're
01:42:30.800on friendly basis then it's fine but yeah margaret who's chief secretary of nato he has my book he
01:42:36.560had it when he was prime minister in his prime minister office and this is known because journalists
01:42:40.960once took a photo of all the books that he'd stacked up there and they posted about that
01:42:44.640and there's also a photo of him holding my book so he knows who i am he knows my name i also met
01:42:48.800him two days in a row once which is truly strange coincidence in life but i met the prime minister
01:42:53.680written two days in in my life once two days in a row and um he knows who i am because he has my
01:43:01.200book and he also yeah he knows i write articles in public and so on before he became the chief
01:43:06.560secretary of nato and michelle wellbeck was like the most read author if the france guy wrote about
01:43:13.120sumi sean islamic takeover he also knows who i am he knows i have an amazon account and they sell
01:43:18.480books and so on so there are some really important people who know who i am but when i zoom out
01:43:23.440Like, okay, everything's going wrong, right? So now we have, like, war with, uh, war with Russia that won't end, the destruction of Nord Stream, meaning that Europe is without, without energy, the destruction of the German industry, the destruction of the Dutch trade ports, like, everything is going, everything is, there's, the farmers are being put out of business because of insane regulations, the mass immigration, the Islamization, it's all happening at the same time.0.92
01:43:47.980Putting your farmers out of business.0.76
01:44:15.920Maybe a biker gang or a Muslim fundamentalist, but we basically know what's going on.0.67
01:44:20.020And quite frankly, if you start a war, you're just Luigi Mangioni.1.00
01:44:25.540Again, like, fuck the guy that I don't really give a shit about the CEO,1.00
01:44:31.060but Luigi, I hope he gets laid in prison.1.00
01:44:35.060I hope that he gets, like, married to three women and impregnates all of them.0.95
01:44:38.920But that's not a strategic solution to the foundational problem we're facing.
01:44:45.920right that's that's a fair point but let me continue on the point i was making my god so
01:44:51.260you're literally at the point you're right then you have desperate luigi that's it who you have
01:44:55.900on your side desperate luigi that's it that's what you have on that stuff that's the highest0.99
01:44:59.240card you can still play wait wait let me interrupt again all the fucking voids love luigi all the1.00
01:45:07.920fucking women love luigi do what we need is not individual luigi killing individual ceo what we1.00
01:45:17.460need is a whole fucking generation of luigi's building civilization and grabbing those sabine1.00
01:45:26.220women who absolutely love it and say hey dad no these roman guys they're pretty fucking cool i1.00
01:45:33.080want to get pregnant oh here we go but we don't have that we have nothing you've absolutely have
01:45:41.440nothing to stand on we have nothing to go by we hope that trump would do something well0.99
01:45:44.900you still have this stupid war with russia going on now we have war with iran on top of it0.98
01:45:48.960what's in it did he really save the middle class or no okay he made a lot of people angry he may0.99
01:45:56.040piss a lot of woke people off that's beautiful i love a lot of cultural things that he pissed
01:46:00.140of so many leftists that's beautiful but where's the hope right look at europe we're trapped the0.93
01:46:05.740only one we have to deal with turkey with the akp was on islamist agenda we have to deal now with0.92
01:46:11.100russia and then there's war in iran there's absolutely nothing left there's no one left to0.55
01:46:17.020turn to for europe we're fine europe is only so and we stand for the good we stand for the truth
01:46:23.100we stand for the beautiful and we have our own institutions against us right so there's literally
01:46:27.340no one we can turn to the last person we can go to is god and i just know it's not going to be a
01:46:32.140miracle and i just know he's not going to come to the funeral it's just a fact that's my that's so
01:46:36.460so going back to the connection between the father and the son yeah sure i am i'm put on this earth
01:46:42.140as a human being with a desire for justice with a desire for transcendence to to see the true
01:46:47.340forms in in plato's cave i'm calling out saying the emperor has no clothes and to the best of my
01:46:53.500integrity as a as a as a constructive critic of real written books everything i came
01:47:00.780wrote in my book came through it's all it's an interesting take it's it's patriotic it's
01:47:06.860humanistic but it's kind of somewhat kind of pessimistic i was too optimistic i predicted
01:47:11.740jihadism i predicted the rise of islamic state i predicted that european muslims would sympathize0.99
01:47:17.180What a fucking shock. What a fucking shock that the third world would sympathize with the third world and excuse every fucking crime they've ever committed against humanity while blaming it upon Europeans, the ones that eliminated slavery and demanded that humanity adhere to a higher moral standard.0.99
01:47:47.180radical right extremist blah blah blah it's unconstitutional you just they just kill you1.00
01:47:52.000immediately and they google bump you as they've done with me and i don't give a fuck i give an1.00
01:47:56.140absolute fuck baby so that's where's my fucking god coming to the rescue where's my miracle because0.99
01:48:02.000now is really the time we need a miracle okay there's only a miracle that can like walter1.00
01:48:05.600benjamin predicting that the messiah would come diagonally through time not as a causally
01:48:11.520predicted event let's say as marxism tries to predict the communist revolution through a chain
01:48:16.940of historic events and economic developments
01:56:26.960Like, so much effort went into making this, sorry, not, well, mine, to make this mine to harvest coal, and they filled it with concrete, so that people will freeze to death.
01:56:41.100as a canadian as a canadian i say every single politician that voted yes on that
01:56:50.440should be at bare minimum put to death in public but probably tortured first
01:56:58.440i would like to see a lot more people getting tortured in public broadcast nationally on the0.86
01:57:07.300Canadian Broadcast Corporation, the CBC should be broadcasting people getting
01:57:14.140tortured 24-7 because there's more than enough people in Canada that deserve
01:57:19.780torture before death to fill all of its airwaves. That's that's my modest
01:57:27.060proposal it is modest it is genuinely modest because it's even worse for two reasons what
01:57:34.080you're talking about is even worse than that so the first reason the second is the industrial one
01:57:38.220and the first one is the nuclear one so it's worse than that because all of this crazy
01:57:42.520started with the fukushima flooding in japan because of the tsunami flowed over the nuclear
01:57:47.980reactor and a lot of water became nuclear water and that spilled over to the european scene and
01:57:52.680all these Germans started saying, well, radiation is so deadly, we must get rid of our atom energy,
01:57:59.480we must get rid of nuclear energy, right, but that's what the left always wanted, return to
01:58:03.560Mother Earth, crawl back into Gaia's lab, all this artificial man-made technology, it's all
01:58:09.080Herrschaft, we should go back to paradise, where everything was harmonic, but we were still in
01:58:13.880harmony with nature, and all this technology that's inherently evil, this pure Rousseauian idea.
01:58:21.000So, that's where they shut down all their nuclear power plants.
01:58:28.000But then, they started a war with Russia.
01:58:42.000They shut down all their nuclear power plants.
01:58:44.000The entirety of Europe for nuclear energy is now dependent on France.0.99
01:58:47.000France weren't so stupid after this Fukushima, because fuck your tsunami, Europe has a completely different plate tectonic than Asia, so we don't have tsunamis in Europe, fuck em, we keep our nukes, we keep our nuclear energy, that's what the French thought, and now all of Europe is dependent on French nuclear energy, so it's beyond that, so it's before they started to mine coal, they willingly shut off their nuclear power plants in Germany, willingly, elites did that, leftist0.99
02:01:31.180This is an actual doctor from an actual European university who has actually put his, he put his name on the fucking list, which is why he's living in Paraguay right now.0.97