Homosexuality and the Red Pill [Requested Video]
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Summary
Can a man be both a practicing homosexual and a right-wing red piller? Can a man who is an openly practicing homosexual be a man of faith and virtue? And in order to be a follower of the Red Pill, does a man need to be Catholic?
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So this is a question that comes from a man named Bill.
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It's a heartfelt question, and it's not a very easy question for me to answer.
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He says, Mr. Irini, I'm a 30-year-old beta male and slowly digesting the red pill,
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watching your videos and reading red pill literature, as well as right-wing political
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literature. I know what I'm internalizing is the truth, but I have a few issues that maybe you
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could clarify. I am gay. I have never been with a woman nor had any relationship with a man other
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than casual sex. Grew up in a Protestant home, but later converted to the Catholic Church at 19 and
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left the church at 21. From the age of 18 to now, I would say I'm just wandering through life with
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no direction, but slowly changing thanks to the red pill. The issue I have is this. Can a man be
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both, and openly, a practicing homosexual and a right-wing red piller? Can a man who is an openly
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practicing homosexual be a man of faith and virtue? And in order to be a follower of the red pill and
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right-wing philosophy, does a man need to be a Catholic? I understand that these questions seem
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complex, but I'm very interested in hearing your thoughts. Well, thank you for the question. I'm
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sorry it took me so long to get to it, but it's been on my mind the entire time. Then I need to
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clarify something right at the beginning of this. I can't tell you what to do, all right? I can't tell
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anybody how to live their lives or what choices they should make, but what I can do is tell you
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the options as I see them. I can tell you what I see out there for you, and then it's up to you
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So let's start by asking what it means to be a homosexual. What is the life you are choosing
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there? I think that we can all agree on the fact that homosexuals in today's culture, you know, maybe
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it was different in ancient Greece or Sparta. But in today's culture, to be a homosexual is
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to be the ultimate hedonist. I mean, first of all, you've got all the sex and drugs that
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you can want at the drop of a hat. You've got Grindr, you've got clubs, you name it. There's
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nothing holding you back. You've got access to the gay mafia. So the gay mafia, it's a phenomenon
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that crops up in most places where you have a lot of homosexuals. You have all these guys who will
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do favors for you, but a quid pro quo. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. You've got that underground
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network that will make it easier for you to get ahead, easier to get promotions, you name
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it. You've got the automatic support of organizations out there. All right, you've got these GLBT movements
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that will look out for you. You're a protected class, a protected minority class. You have
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a lot of benefits to being a homosexual. And on top of that, you don't have to worry about
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paying for children. So all of your money gets to go to paying for your lifestyle. You can
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live very cheap as a homosexual, as well as getting promoted through the gay mafia, and
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you can have all your needs met. You know, that's certainly one way to enjoy the decline. It's
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a very effective way to have a lot of fun. Though it's not without its downsides, is it?
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I mean, first and most obviously, there's the extremely high rate of disease amongst homosexuals.
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And not just venereal diseases, by the way. When you have a group of men that will stay up
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all late partying, and there's plenty of bodily contact. It's not just STDs that you have to
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worry about. It's not just bug chasers you have to worry about. It's also new forms of
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the flu, new anything. That's where it's going to breed. That's where it's going to become
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Then there's the high rates of mental illness amongst homosexuals. And while you might not be
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mentally ill yourself, you are going to be surrounding yourself with other mentally ill
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people, which is its own sort of a curse. There's the shortened life expectancy. And
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this is pretty consistent. It might be a fun lifestyle, but it takes its toll on you very
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rapidly. And very few homosexuals age gracefully. And finally, you have no meaningful participation
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Homosexuality is a young man's game. As men, we like youth, whether heterosexual or homosexual.
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And when you start to get older, your options begin to vanish. You don't build a legacy through
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being a hedonist. You don't build intimate networks. You have the loose networks, but you don't build
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the meaningful, intimate networks. You, well, as the saying goes, a rolling stone gathers no moss.
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But you know, this actually kind of leads into the next point. To say that homosexuals, they have
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so little participation in wider society, leads us to the question, what is civilization?
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And at the simplest level, the simplest level of what it means to have a society, it's a group of men
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who band together to enforce property rights and sexual rights. Which, when you get right down to it,
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is just another form of property rights. My woman, no touchies.
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Now, of course, it should be acknowledged that a civilization has a parallel female matriarchy
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going on at the same time as the patriarchy. Okay? The women are very active in their own roles
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at the same time as the men are active in their roles. And the women, just as much as the men,
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want property rights respected, and they want sexual rights respected. The men want to know
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that if they invest in a woman, she's not going to run off on them. And the women want to know that if
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they get pregnant, the guy's not going to run off on them either.
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Sexual rights and property rights. Any organization, any group that can get together and start enforcing
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those things consistently, that is a civilization right there.
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So when we think about that, when we think about civilization as that enforcement of property
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norms, of organization, of hierarchy, what does homosexuality do to this?
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Well, first of all, let's look back at the homosexual mafia.
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The gay mafia undermines hierarchy. It undermines organizations.
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See, when a bunch of men form an organization, they do it because they have a united goal,
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and they want to work as a team to achieve that goal that will benefit all their members.
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When some of the members in that organization are forming a homosexual mafia,
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that completely undermines the purpose of the organization. Because the gay mafia is not
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there to help improve the organization. The gay mafia is there to help improve the lives of the
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homosexuals within that organization at the expense of that organization.
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Next, for men to form effective organizations, for them to create a manner bond,
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male bonding is absolutely crucial. And homosexuality undermines that.
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The widespread acceptance of homosexuality in today's world has forced guys into the position
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where they have to constantly affirm not gay, where they're afraid of touching one another.
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They're afraid of bonding. They're afraid of being mistaken for gay. Because when you have a group of
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heterosexual men, they know what a pat on the shoulder means. When you have a mixed group of
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homosexual and heterosexual men, well, suddenly everything is thrown into chaos at this point. You
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can't tell whether that's a friendly gesture or a sexual advance. So the presence of homosexuals within
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the mannerbund very much undermines the mannerbund.
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Next, homosexuality. It makes you a burden on society, not a contributing member, ultimately.
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Because homosexuality is so brutal on the body. And the only fruits that it bears are the economic
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productivity, the consumerism that comes out of it. Well, that's not really benefiting civilization.
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That's benefiting the consumerist system that has destroyed civilization at this point.
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But it's not helping civilization. You are turning yourself into a burden on society by engaging in all of that.
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And finally, it puts you at odds with your fellow man. Now, I don't mean that it makes you into his enemy,
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any, per se. But it puts you at cross-purposes. One of the ways guys bond, well, one of the ways both
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sexes bond is by having conversations about how to ensnare the member of the opposite sex that they're
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interested in. You know, guys want to sit around talking about, you know, a little Mary Jane rotten crotch.
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They can't have that sort of conversation with you as a homosexual.
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For one thing, it's a completely different market. For another thing, they don't want to hear what you're up to.
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It also means that you have different goals, different ambitions than the rest of these men.
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Again, for a man to acquire a woman, he has to show masculine virtue. He has to show that he's
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strong, confident, able to defend her, able to provide for her, all of that.
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As a homosexual, you have a completely different set of goals, ambitions, and interests.
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You know, perhaps you would want to take a middling route on it. Not be completely flagrant,
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completely hedonistic with the lifestyle. But I would say, at that point, I would say,
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what's the point of being a halfway hedonist? Right? Because you're still exposing yourself to
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all of those risks, those very, very heightened risks. You are alienating yourself from society.
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And you're not even doing it well because you're not being a proper hedonist at that point. Like,
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if you're going to be a hedonist, you're going to pay for it. So you might as well enjoy it
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all out. You know, if you're going to eat cake, it's not good for you. You might as well have a big slice.
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You ask what it does to you spiritually. And listen, that's a lot harder to say.
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All right? You know what the rules of the Catholic Church are. These are frequently the rules of
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most religions because it winds up becoming a hedonistic, a physically oriented, a short-term
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oriented. There's no long-term plan with it. It's always oriented on the now.
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For that reason, it tends to be, well, certainly not spiritually beneficial.
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Which, I know, buddy, this leaves you at a hell of a crossroads.
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You know, I want to rewind a bit on that comment you made at the beginning where you described
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Why are you using that sort of language about yourself?
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All right? My colleague, Matt Forney, a couple of years ago, he was speaking quite a bit about
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negative self-talk. And yeah, this is a little bit of a hippie thing, the negative self-talk.
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But what you'll find is most people, they have a very negative narrative inside their head.
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They're always criticizing themselves. They're always beating themselves up.
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And if you, for your average person, if you spoke to others the way you spoke to yourself,
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people would hate you. So why aren't you treating yourself with the sort of dignity
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So right there, you're not saying, I have beta tendencies, or I was raised to be a beta
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male, or I've acted beta sometimes, you know? The mantra of the manosphere is kill the inner beta.
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So it's not a behavior, it's an identity you're putting upon yourself.
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If it's an identity, you can't correct it. If it's a behavior, you can.
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You know, another thing you might be thinking as well is,
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At what point, if you're not practicing homosexuality, do you stop being a homosexual?
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We've got, we have got such an incredibly damaged generation of young men these days.
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They're so incredibly damaged. Not a single one of us made it out without a lot of scars,
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a lot of failures, a lot of times that we were weak because we never had the father figures we
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needed to show us how to be men. So yeah, it's not great, honestly. It does damage your masculinity.
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But is it irrevocable? Well, I'd say that's up to you. Everybody's damaged goods these days.
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what sort of legacy do you want to leave? Do you want to leave a legacy?
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And that legacy doesn't necessarily have to be a wife and kids. There is a lot that people can do.
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And, you know, same-sex attraction, that's a difficult thing to deal with. You know,
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you've got my sympathies there. But I guess your question is, you need to look at your life. And
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you mentioned that you've, you've never had a boyfriend. You've just had, you know, casual partners.
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Well, like I said, it's very good for hedonism. It's not good for building a legacy. It's not good
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for participating in society. And you really need to make the decision. Do you want to be a hedonist?
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I mean, it's not a very nice destination where that ends up, but it is a fun ride.
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Or do you want to start investing in civilization? Do you want to start being parts,
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part of something larger than just yourself? Something that might just stand the test of time?
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God bless you. Thank you for the question. Thank you for the support. And thank you for the patience,
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given how long it took me to get to it. Go with God, brother. Deus volt. Urini, out.