Leo D.M.J. Aurini - October 18, 2018


Homosexuality and the Red Pill [Requested Video]


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Can a man be both a practicing homosexual and a right-wing red piller? Can a man who is an openly practicing homosexual be a man of faith and virtue? And in order to be a follower of the Red Pill, does a man need to be Catholic?

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00:00:00.000 So this is a question that comes from a man named Bill.
00:00:06.880 It's a heartfelt question, and it's not a very easy question for me to answer.
00:00:13.780 I'm going to start by reading it out to you.
00:00:19.560 He says, Mr. Irini, I'm a 30-year-old beta male and slowly digesting the red pill,
00:00:26.300 watching your videos and reading red pill literature, as well as right-wing political
00:00:30.600 literature. I know what I'm internalizing is the truth, but I have a few issues that maybe you
00:00:35.640 could clarify. I am gay. I have never been with a woman nor had any relationship with a man other
00:00:41.760 than casual sex. Grew up in a Protestant home, but later converted to the Catholic Church at 19 and
00:00:47.760 left the church at 21. From the age of 18 to now, I would say I'm just wandering through life with
00:00:53.120 no direction, but slowly changing thanks to the red pill. The issue I have is this. Can a man be
00:01:00.800 both, and openly, a practicing homosexual and a right-wing red piller? Can a man who is an openly 0.76
00:01:08.620 practicing homosexual be a man of faith and virtue? And in order to be a follower of the red pill and 0.82
00:01:14.860 right-wing philosophy, does a man need to be a Catholic? I understand that these questions seem
00:01:19.400 complex, but I'm very interested in hearing your thoughts. Well, thank you for the question. I'm
00:01:27.040 sorry it took me so long to get to it, but it's been on my mind the entire time. Then I need to
00:01:34.020 clarify something right at the beginning of this. I can't tell you what to do, all right? I can't tell
00:01:40.300 anybody how to live their lives or what choices they should make, but what I can do is tell you
00:01:47.480 the options as I see them. I can tell you what I see out there for you, and then it's up to you
00:01:55.800 to make the decision for yourself.
00:01:57.500 So let's start by asking what it means to be a homosexual. What is the life you are choosing 0.98
00:02:13.640 there? I think that we can all agree on the fact that homosexuals in today's culture, you know, maybe 1.00
00:02:23.220 it was different in ancient Greece or Sparta. But in today's culture, to be a homosexual is 0.85
00:02:30.220 to be the ultimate hedonist. I mean, first of all, you've got all the sex and drugs that 0.99
00:02:37.840 you can want at the drop of a hat. You've got Grindr, you've got clubs, you name it. There's
00:02:44.280 nothing holding you back. You've got access to the gay mafia. So the gay mafia, it's a phenomenon 1.00
00:02:55.300 that crops up in most places where you have a lot of homosexuals. You have all these guys who will 1.00
00:03:02.100 do favors for you, but a quid pro quo. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. You've got that underground
00:03:08.400 network that will make it easier for you to get ahead, easier to get promotions, you name
00:03:13.760 it. You've got the automatic support of organizations out there. All right, you've got these GLBT movements 0.96
00:03:23.740 that will look out for you. You're a protected class, a protected minority class. You have 0.99
00:03:29.260 a lot of benefits to being a homosexual. And on top of that, you don't have to worry about 0.93
00:03:34.960 paying for children. So all of your money gets to go to paying for your lifestyle. You can
00:03:40.940 live very cheap as a homosexual, as well as getting promoted through the gay mafia, and 1.00
00:03:45.700 you can have all your needs met. You know, that's certainly one way to enjoy the decline. It's 0.98
00:03:54.160 a very effective way to have a lot of fun. Though it's not without its downsides, is it?
00:04:05.980 I mean, first and most obviously, there's the extremely high rate of disease amongst homosexuals. 0.90
00:04:13.000 And not just venereal diseases, by the way. When you have a group of men that will stay up 0.95
00:04:18.300 all late partying, and there's plenty of bodily contact. It's not just STDs that you have to
00:04:25.220 worry about. It's not just bug chasers you have to worry about. It's also new forms of
00:04:30.480 the flu, new anything. That's where it's going to breed. That's where it's going to become
00:04:37.380 most effective. 0.99
00:04:39.800 Then there's the high rates of mental illness amongst homosexuals. And while you might not be 1.00
00:04:45.900 mentally ill yourself, you are going to be surrounding yourself with other mentally ill 0.92
00:04:51.840 people, which is its own sort of a curse. There's the shortened life expectancy. And 0.91
00:05:00.620 this is pretty consistent. It might be a fun lifestyle, but it takes its toll on you very
00:05:09.740 rapidly. And very few homosexuals age gracefully. And finally, you have no meaningful participation 1.00
00:05:18.980 in society. 0.97
00:05:23.500 Homosexuality is a young man's game. As men, we like youth, whether heterosexual or homosexual. 1.00
00:05:30.540 And when you start to get older, your options begin to vanish. You don't build a legacy through
00:05:41.060 being a hedonist. You don't build intimate networks. You have the loose networks, but you don't build
00:05:48.060 the meaningful, intimate networks. You, well, as the saying goes, a rolling stone gathers no moss.
00:06:00.300 But you know, this actually kind of leads into the next point. To say that homosexuals, they have 1.00
00:06:09.100 so little participation in wider society, leads us to the question, what is civilization? 0.96
00:06:16.140 What is society?
00:06:21.180 And at the simplest level, the simplest level of what it means to have a society, it's a group of men 0.99
00:06:29.660 who band together to enforce property rights and sexual rights. Which, when you get right down to it,
00:06:38.140 is just another form of property rights. My woman, no touchies. 1.00
00:06:42.860 Now, of course, it should be acknowledged that a civilization has a parallel female matriarchy 1.00
00:06:55.500 going on at the same time as the patriarchy. Okay? The women are very active in their own roles 1.00
00:07:02.140 at the same time as the men are active in their roles. And the women, just as much as the men,
00:07:08.220 want property rights respected, and they want sexual rights respected. The men want to know 0.95
00:07:15.100 that if they invest in a woman, she's not going to run off on them. And the women want to know that if 1.00
00:07:20.540 they get pregnant, the guy's not going to run off on them either.
00:07:23.580 Sexual rights and property rights. Any organization, any group that can get together and start enforcing
00:07:32.860 those things consistently, that is a civilization right there.
00:07:37.740 So when we think about that, when we think about civilization as that enforcement of property
00:07:47.900 norms, of organization, of hierarchy, what does homosexuality do to this? 0.98
00:07:59.260 Well, first of all, let's look back at the homosexual mafia. 1.00
00:08:02.940 The gay mafia undermines hierarchy. It undermines organizations. 1.00
00:08:09.020 See, when a bunch of men form an organization, they do it because they have a united goal,
00:08:14.300 and they want to work as a team to achieve that goal that will benefit all their members. 0.73
00:08:20.060 When some of the members in that organization are forming a homosexual mafia, 0.71
00:08:26.220 that completely undermines the purpose of the organization. Because the gay mafia is not 1.00
00:08:31.580 there to help improve the organization. The gay mafia is there to help improve the lives of the 1.00
00:08:37.260 homosexuals within that organization at the expense of that organization. 0.92
00:08:47.660 Next, for men to form effective organizations, for them to create a manner bond,
00:08:55.100 male bonding is absolutely crucial. And homosexuality undermines that. 1.00
00:09:03.980 The widespread acceptance of homosexuality in today's world has forced guys into the position 0.95
00:09:10.380 where they have to constantly affirm not gay, where they're afraid of touching one another.
00:09:16.460 They're afraid of bonding. They're afraid of being mistaken for gay. Because when you have a group of 0.94
00:09:22.380 heterosexual men, they know what a pat on the shoulder means. When you have a mixed group of 1.00
00:09:30.060 homosexual and heterosexual men, well, suddenly everything is thrown into chaos at this point. You
00:09:36.460 can't tell whether that's a friendly gesture or a sexual advance. So the presence of homosexuals within 1.00
00:09:44.140 the mannerbund very much undermines the mannerbund. 0.99
00:09:47.900 Next, homosexuality. It makes you a burden on society, not a contributing member, ultimately. 1.00
00:10:04.220 Because homosexuality is so brutal on the body. And the only fruits that it bears are the economic 1.00
00:10:15.100 productivity, the consumerism that comes out of it. Well, that's not really benefiting civilization.
00:10:21.900 That's benefiting the consumerist system that has destroyed civilization at this point. 1.00
00:10:27.340 But it's not helping civilization. You are turning yourself into a burden on society by engaging in all of that.
00:10:40.940 And finally, it puts you at odds with your fellow man. Now, I don't mean that it makes you into his enemy,
00:10:49.100 any, per se. But it puts you at cross-purposes. One of the ways guys bond, well, one of the ways both
00:10:59.820 sexes bond is by having conversations about how to ensnare the member of the opposite sex that they're 1.00
00:11:07.580 interested in. You know, guys want to sit around talking about, you know, a little Mary Jane rotten crotch. 0.99
00:11:14.300 They can't have that sort of conversation with you as a homosexual. 0.99
00:11:24.940 For one thing, it's a completely different market. For another thing, they don't want to hear what you're up to.
00:11:34.540 It also means that you have different goals, different ambitions than the rest of these men.
00:11:38.700 Again, for a man to acquire a woman, he has to show masculine virtue. He has to show that he's 0.95
00:11:51.180 strong, confident, able to defend her, able to provide for her, all of that.
00:11:58.700 As a homosexual, you have a completely different set of goals, ambitions, and interests. 0.99
00:12:04.220 So how can you work with your fellow man?
00:12:12.140 You know, perhaps you would want to take a middling route on it. Not be completely flagrant,
00:12:20.620 completely hedonistic with the lifestyle. But I would say, at that point, I would say,
00:12:27.420 what's the point of being a halfway hedonist? Right? Because you're still exposing yourself to
00:12:34.860 all of those risks, those very, very heightened risks. You are alienating yourself from society.
00:12:44.140 And you're not even doing it well because you're not being a proper hedonist at that point. Like,
00:12:49.100 if you're going to be a hedonist, you're going to pay for it. So you might as well enjoy it
00:12:54.060 all out. You know, if you're going to eat cake, it's not good for you. You might as well have a big slice.
00:13:10.300 You ask what it does to you spiritually. And listen, that's a lot harder to say.
00:13:14.220 All right? You know what the rules of the Catholic Church are. These are frequently the rules of
00:13:24.860 most religions because it winds up becoming a hedonistic, a physically oriented, a short-term
00:13:35.340 oriented. There's no long-term plan with it. It's always oriented on the now.
00:13:44.460 For that reason, it tends to be, well, certainly not spiritually beneficial.
00:13:51.980 Which, I know, buddy, this leaves you at a hell of a crossroads.
00:14:06.060 You know, I want to rewind a bit on that comment you made at the beginning where you described
00:14:11.340 yourself as a beta male.
00:14:13.100 Why are you using that sort of language about yourself?
00:14:21.180 All right? My colleague, Matt Forney, a couple of years ago, he was speaking quite a bit about
00:14:27.660 negative self-talk. And yeah, this is a little bit of a hippie thing, the negative self-talk.
00:14:33.500 But what you'll find is most people, they have a very negative narrative inside their head.
00:14:39.900 They're always criticizing themselves. They're always beating themselves up.
00:14:44.060 And if you, for your average person, if you spoke to others the way you spoke to yourself,
00:14:52.140 people would hate you. So why aren't you treating yourself with the sort of dignity
00:14:57.580 that you give to perfect strangers?
00:15:01.980 So right there, you're not saying, I have beta tendencies, or I was raised to be a beta
00:15:08.620 male, or I've acted beta sometimes, you know? The mantra of the manosphere is kill the inner beta.
00:15:17.180 You're affirming that you're beta.
00:15:22.140 So it's not a behavior, it's an identity you're putting upon yourself.
00:15:27.260 If it's an identity, you can't correct it. If it's a behavior, you can.
00:15:46.540 You know, another thing you might be thinking as well is,
00:15:50.060 you know, can you, can you recover?
00:15:58.060 At what point, if you're not practicing homosexuality, do you stop being a homosexual? 0.92
00:16:03.740 Well, can I be frank, bud? 0.85
00:16:05.980 We've got, we have got such an incredibly damaged generation of young men these days.
00:16:12.060 They're so incredibly damaged. Not a single one of us made it out without a lot of scars,
00:16:21.660 a lot of failures, a lot of times that we were weak because we never had the father figures we
00:16:28.460 needed to show us how to be men. So yeah, it's not great, honestly. It does damage your masculinity.
00:16:35.180 But is it irrevocable? Well, I'd say that's up to you. Everybody's damaged goods these days.
00:16:49.100 So I guess my question for you,
00:16:54.060 what sort of legacy do you want to leave? Do you want to leave a legacy?
00:16:58.620 And that legacy doesn't necessarily have to be a wife and kids. There is a lot that people can do.
00:17:09.740 And, you know, same-sex attraction, that's a difficult thing to deal with. You know,
00:17:15.740 you've got my sympathies there. But I guess your question is, you need to look at your life. And
00:17:21.980 you mentioned that you've, you've never had a boyfriend. You've just had, you know, casual partners.
00:17:28.060 Well, like I said, it's very good for hedonism. It's not good for building a legacy. It's not good
00:17:33.900 for participating in society. And you really need to make the decision. Do you want to be a hedonist?
00:17:42.620 I mean, it's not a very nice destination where that ends up, but it is a fun ride.
00:17:47.820 Or do you want to start investing in civilization? Do you want to start being parts,
00:17:54.780 part of something larger than just yourself? Something that might just stand the test of time?
00:18:08.700 And that's your decision to make, brother.
00:18:15.260 God bless you. Thank you for the question. Thank you for the support. And thank you for the patience,
00:18:21.180 given how long it took me to get to it. Go with God, brother. Deus volt. Urini, out.