What are we supposed to do about the problem of incels? Is there a solution to this problem, or should we teach men to be more attractive to women? This is a question that has been on my mind a lot lately.
00:00:00.000This is a requested video from Scott, and I almost feel bad taking money for him because this question perfectly crystallizes something that I've been thinking a lot about lately.
00:00:15.420See, so often, I'm seeing this time and time again in our civilization, you've got somebody over here, and they're saying something, and they are completely right about all the points they're making about how civilization needs to do this.
00:00:28.980And then you've got somebody over here that's disagreeing with them and saying the opposite, but they're completely right as well.
00:00:35.600Both sides are completely right, and yet both sides are completely wrong, and there's no workable solution, and all we're doing is building castles in the sky.
00:00:46.080That was the case with this recent conversation between Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson.
00:00:58.980Now, on Peterson's side, he was talking about the fact that civilization, if it is a hypergamous, if it's a polygamous civilization, is not sustainable.
00:01:13.180When 10% of the guys are getting 80% of the women, the other 90% of guys have no investment in society.
00:01:21.280They're not going to work, they're going to tear it down.
00:01:24.960Whether they do it deliberately, or whether they just refuse to participate and live minimalist lifestyles, you have a civilization that's collapsing because the men, the majority of men, are not invested in it.
00:01:37.060And simultaneously, the women, if it's nine women for every guy, then those women aren't going to get the attention, do a wife, do a mother.
00:01:52.280And that monogamy, or something close to monogamy, is the ideal situation if you want to have a civilized society where people can actually develop.
00:02:01.440Rogan, for his part, he was pointing out the fact that, okay, you enforce monogamy, and now all these guys that are incels, well, they're getting laid with wives that are disgusted by them.
00:02:20.020Because isn't the sexual market, it's a free market, you're going to have some winners, some losers.
00:02:26.100Sadly, you're going to have a lot of losers.
00:02:59.260We could point out, you know, Catholic social teaching, that, you know, the economy exists for the sake of man, for the dignity of mankind.
00:03:33.540We could even talk about the fact that it used to be that you needed to appeal to the father to get the woman, right?
00:03:42.540And so now that you can appeal directly to the woman, you don't have to have a stable income.
00:03:47.340You don't have to have a good moral history.
00:03:49.920You know, a motorcycle and some tattoos will often be all that you need.
00:03:56.380But talking about all these things, all we're doing is building castles in the sky.
00:04:00.600All we're doing is saying, you know, they had a better system way back when.
00:04:04.820I see absolutely no proposal as to what we are going to do, how we are going to cut the Gordian knot of this.
00:04:15.440Because both these men are right, but they're also wrong, and the whole conversation is irrelevant.
00:04:21.900What are we supposed to do about the fact that we have 20% of the guys getting 80% of the women, 10%, 90% these days it seems like, because that is not a stable civilization?
00:04:38.500Well, I'll tell you what we're going to do.
00:04:42.520See, the issue with Rogan, when he's talking about teaching these guys to be more attractive to women,
00:04:54.360well, you wind up back at the place where everyone's running faster on the treadmill and they stand in the same place.
00:05:00.580It's brutal, but some of these incels talk about how game is only for guys that are 7 out of 10 or above.