Leo D.M.J. Aurini - January 07, 2013


Natural Law and Eternal Rebellion


Episode Stats

Length

28 minutes

Words per Minute

111.8538

Word Count

3,146

Sentence Count

202

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

In this episode, I talk about why I don't believe in God, natural law, and why I'm not a Christian. It's a bit of a longwinded rant, but it's a good one.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Now, it's no secret that one of my interests, a lifelong interest, but in particular over the
00:00:10.920 past few months, is theology. I've been mentioning it a fair bit in my videos and studying it even
00:00:17.940 more so. And I swear, not a week goes by that I don't either have somebody demanding that I
00:00:27.960 explain why I'm not a Christian, or an atheist asking me if I found religion in my old age.
00:00:37.980 You know, ain't it funny that there isn't a religion on the planet, aside from Islam, that
00:00:48.660 doesn't say, be humble. I mean, there's a damn good reason for that advice. Fact of the matter
00:00:59.500 is that the loudest and most boastful are usually those that are hiding the most. Whereas if
00:01:08.720 you stay humble, if you try not to be a braggart, you tend to have a bit more respect. Your voice
00:01:17.940 carries a bit more weight to it. Certainly myself. I've done advertising for other people
00:01:24.680 before, and I've been pretty good at it, but doing advertising for my own bloody book is
00:01:30.360 proving to be quite the challenge. Being boastful about it does not come naturally to me.
00:01:36.980 And yet this religious thing, people identify so strongly with their religion. They all want
00:01:47.620 to argue about how, you know, I'm an atheist and I know everything, or I'm a Baptist, or
00:01:55.960 I'm a Catholic, or whatever. They all demand that you show them respect because they believe
00:02:04.500 something. It's absolutely ridiculous, and it goes against the bloody teachings within
00:02:12.540 the thing. Now, you know, Moldbug would be quick to point out that this is just a puritanical
00:02:19.960 quirk, you know, that this atheists need to prove that they're right because they're the
00:02:26.000 modern interpretation of the gospel. And he's absolutely right in that. But there's a bit
00:02:30.800 more to it, I think.
00:02:35.020 I think in Rising to Power that the Puritans kind of degraded all religions down to this,
00:02:42.600 you know, this pissing contest of who's the right religion. Instead of having a humbleness
00:02:49.920 and an openness to other ways of looking at the world, there's a self-righteousness, a materialistic
00:02:59.860 proving that, you know, I belong to the winning team. God loves me more than he loves you.
00:03:06.760 It's quite absurd. Oh, and just for the record, I would not call myself a Christian after the
00:03:17.560 Fourth Lateran Council. An atheist? Well, the creator did such a great job hiding his own
00:03:25.300 work that it'd be downright rude to believe in him, so of course I'm an atheist. All that
00:03:31.280 said, let's get to the actual topic of this video, natural law. Now, natural law is a sort
00:03:39.520 of word you'll hear thrown around, I guess you could call them the low church. You'll hear
00:03:46.060 these ridiculous Republican protesters screaming about their religion, screaming about natural
00:03:53.340 law, and of course they know what natural law is. They have it completely figured out, and
00:03:59.520 it's whatever supports their contemporary political cause. Natural law is a bit more
00:04:08.820 than that. And see, what all this boils down to, the reason that I find theology so interesting,
00:04:18.240 and in about six months I'll probably turn around and get really heavy into mathematics and quantum
00:04:24.140 theory again or something like that. See, there's two different levels of abstraction you can take
00:04:32.940 the universe at. There's the material abstraction, and this is most of science. Whether it's high-level
00:04:45.020 science like climatology or extremely low-level like quantum mechanics where we're dealing purely with
00:04:52.060 mathematical probabilities and formula, it's this measurable engineering problem. And your typical
00:05:04.220 atheist response is going to be that ethics is an engineering problem. Now, certainly over at Less
00:05:12.860 LessWrong, they've done a lot of work to try and reduce morality and society down to a mathematical formulation, an engineering problem.
00:05:25.020 And they've done a lot of very good work in that direction. If you're not reading LessWrong, start reading LessWrong.
00:05:34.860 Go click on the, there's a wiki on the side, look up the sequences, and you'll disappear into there for like a good three weeks.
00:05:44.860 Absolutely amazing, the stuff they've done.
00:05:47.020 And there are certain low-level engineering aspects. You know, we can do a sociological study of what's the effect of prior partner count on marriages,
00:05:58.860 what's the effect of diversity on a neighborhood. We can do those sorts of studies, and we can learn valuable information.
00:06:08.860 Certainly, studying science does not directly affect morality, but it's very good to be living in a world with industrial agriculture,
00:06:22.860 and indoor plumbing, and traffic, traffic that's controlled by mathematical formulas. Thank God.
00:06:33.340 So it doesn't directly affect morality, but it is all very good stuff to be studying.
00:06:39.580 Now, what these, the people that are trying to reduce everything to an engineering issue,
00:06:45.340 what they're missing is the upper-level abstract, that there are certain patterns that repeat themselves
00:06:57.900 again and again at the high level. And this thing, this pattern that we notice,
00:07:06.700 this is what's meant by natural law. The law that is naturally ordained by the universe that you can't fight against.
00:07:25.420 Now, in a prior video, I said that, for instance, natural law means that if you spend all your time
00:07:34.700 time chasing after a new line of coke or chasing after meaningless empty sex with randoms, if you live a
00:07:46.620 completely hedonistic lifestyle, a completely selfish, psychopathic lifestyle, that it will catch up with you in the end.
00:07:57.180 If you're poor, it's going to catch up with you pretty quickly, but even the rich, it catches up to them.
00:08:04.220 It leaves them in wreckage and misery. And I know that the, I already hear the immediate
00:08:12.380 atheist response to suggest that there's some sort of karmic force in the universe.
00:08:19.260 What about all those, those people that suffer needlessly? You know, what about all those,
00:08:23.980 those rich SOBs that die happily? And can you show me one of the latter?
00:08:32.620 Oh, there's certainly a lot of needless suffering in this universe.
00:08:37.740 And when you describe it as a karmic force, as an active agent, then it certainly implied that an
00:08:50.140 active agent wouldn't create this sort of suffering, now would it? So that's, that's not
00:08:56.220 what natural law is. It's not a cosmic agent. Or at least it certainly doesn't behave like one,
00:09:05.020 I suppose it could be. A great example of natural law is Austrian economics. Seriously.
00:09:17.980 Austrian economics is true whether or not you want it to be.
00:09:25.020 Right now in the situation we are in, in the world, where we've, we've switched from,
00:09:32.940 we've switched from gold-backed currencies to, to funny money. It's inevitable that we're going to
00:09:41.740 collapse. In fact, I just saw a link, I'm going to, I'll put it down below, about how there was
00:09:48.780 basically zero inflation in the United States until they, the Federal Reserve, and in particular going
00:09:57.260 off the gold standard to help accelerate it way more. But you see this, this very flat,
00:10:02.780 flat line, and then just this rocketing, rocketing, uh, you know, like the, the cost of average goods.
00:10:12.220 It's very stark, you know, like, please argue with me Keynesians, argue that graph, please.
00:10:20.060 As Aaron Clary put it, it's, it's hard to predict when the collapse is going to come, because
00:10:25.980 the Keynesian funny money, they, they always, you know, they always come up with another little quirk,
00:10:32.380 another different type of bailout, another different way of seemingly to manipulate things,
00:10:38.540 so they get away with it. They keep seeming to get away with it until in the end
00:10:44.940 the wall hits them that much harder.
00:10:55.180 Because economics is natural law.
00:11:01.020 Fact of the matter is that if you don't produce anything, you can't be wealthy,
00:11:05.340 and that shall be the whole of the law.
00:11:12.780 Economics is the most obvious. It's the easiest to understand, because we, you know,
00:11:18.460 try and explain economic theory like this to a small business owner in a community of 500 people.
00:11:24.700 I mean, it's hard enough explaining it to people nowadays, when inflation's going through the roof,
00:11:29.740 when, uh, corporations are getting bailed out, and we have more people unemployed than ever before.
00:11:40.540 Well, that wasn't very friendly.
00:11:45.340 But imagine trying to explain it into a small village, where they don't see the aggregate effects
00:11:50.540 of all these terrible policies. So that's one part of natural law.
00:12:04.620 Another part is warfare.
00:12:11.500 Sun Tze, the art of war, has been in print since the guy first wrote it.
00:12:20.780 The book of five rings.
00:12:23.820 Same thing there.
00:12:25.820 It is extremely popular with, you'll find it in the business section.
00:12:34.140 And now if you read these books, there's, there's nothing that you can really nail down.
00:12:39.260 It's all very abstract. It's all about patterns. You know, bury your chariot wheels
00:12:46.140 to urge your men into battle. Except for all those times when a tactical retreat is how you win the battle.
00:12:59.820 There's the, uh, shoot, I can't remember his name right now, but the series of books,
00:13:03.420 48 Laws of Power, uh, The Art of Seduction, I think the 33 Strategies of War.
00:13:08.620 I've chatted with the guy on email a few times. Very, very intelligent man.
00:13:13.820 And yet none of his rules can be put down into an engineering problem.
00:13:19.500 These are all high-level abstract patterns.
00:13:22.860 And to go back to Austrian economics, yes, good businesses fail sometimes,
00:13:35.100 because there's a flood, or because there's a solar eclipse, or because of some external factor.
00:13:42.940 Natural law is not a karmic force that seeks out justice. It's a force that inevitably punishes
00:13:55.500 anybody that's going against it, eventually. It can take a while to catch up with you,
00:14:00.860 but it always catches up to you.
00:14:02.380 You can be a, you can be the general of one of the wealthiest armies out there,
00:14:14.540 you can have the best technology, and the best trained soldiers, and you can still lose every war.
00:14:24.220 Exactly like the United States has been doing ever since the end of World War II.
00:14:27.980 Have they won anything, despite having the best tactics and the best generals?
00:14:37.020 No, because they have the wrong strategy. This is natural law.
00:14:46.540 And it's an entirely sensible thing to talk about.
00:14:49.900 If you're trying to pick up women by being a nice guy who deserves it on the inside,
00:15:02.620 without ever acquiring any life skills that are interesting, accomplishing anything,
00:15:08.540 without learning what women are actually attracted to, and becoming that,
00:15:13.820 then you're never going to attract women. It doesn't matter how much you think you deserve it.
00:15:20.460 Natural law says that if you're a beta, even if you're a millionaire beta,
00:15:27.980 your wife's going to cheat on you eventually.
00:15:33.180 And of course, the wife that cheats is going to come to her own sort of a bad end.
00:15:38.540 Natural law is there.
00:15:47.580 I certainly don't understand all of it. Otherwise, my armies would have taken over the world already.
00:15:52.620 And anybody that likes to scream and yell about how they hate this group or that group because they don't follow it and condemning everybody,
00:16:04.940 acting with none of the humbleness that you ought to act with, they certainly don't understand it either.
00:16:10.460 But it's not a ridiculous concept. It's one of these things that's been appropriated by the low church.
00:16:20.620 That the high church, which is an atheist cult, which is modern liberalism, has rejected it
00:16:28.700 and assigned it onto the low church, the enemies that will make them look good.
00:16:36.700 Now we get to the second part of this video. Rebellion.
00:16:43.420 Because violation of natural law is almost always some sort of rebellion against natural authority.
00:17:01.100 It's a rejection of the way the world works. A reputation of it.
00:17:13.420 On the low levels, it's simply a reputation. A repudiation of legitimate authority.
00:17:29.420 There's a comic I saw a while back. A captioned photo of a kid riding lawnmower with a grandmother in the background
00:17:39.260 that looks like she's screaming at him.
00:17:41.020 And the kid kind of just happens to have a surly expression on his face at the time.
00:17:46.140 And the caption goes, get back here, young man.
00:17:50.620 And he says, fuck you, you're not my real dad. Gonna go listen to some Linkin Park.
00:17:57.180 And like this is, it's so funny because this is so normal nowadays that our entire culture celebrates rebellion.
00:18:07.660 Rebellion. Rebellion has become a commodity that's packaged and marketed and sold at discount outlets.
00:18:14.620 And we can all buy our brand of disconformity.
00:18:19.020 And it's gotten so bad that even like the hipsters now dress like somebody from the 1950s who was dressing to conform to look like you wore a suit, a fedora, you look like a real man.
00:18:34.620 No, they're wearing the suit and the fedora to protest against something.
00:18:42.700 The meta, meta, meta level protest.
00:18:45.340 And this is why they're made fun of.
00:18:47.360 Because when you go that far, it's obvious to everybody that you're ridiculous.
00:18:52.220 But what's not so obvious is the ridiculousness in our own constant rebellion.
00:19:05.260 Our culture all goes to the 1960s.
00:19:08.540 This cultural revolution.
00:19:12.940 This generational rebellion that they had.
00:19:18.940 Or they had better, newer ideas.
00:19:21.180 You know, it's not fair that people that work hard get to make a lot of money and those that don't work hard don't make a lot of money.
00:19:30.620 These rebellions against economics.
00:19:34.160 These rebellions against gender.
00:19:36.860 You know, it's not fair that a 45-year-old man can be sexy, but a 45-year-old woman can't.
00:19:44.020 So we're going to try and change reality so that 45-year-old woman can be sexy.
00:19:50.820 How well did that work?
00:19:51.900 And again, this trend of Puritanism.
00:19:59.100 Where Puritanism seems like a religion designed so that the top males can sleep with all the women.
00:20:05.200 And completely punishing, it punishes male sexuality because that punishment only affects the lower half of the bell curve.
00:20:14.060 Not the upper half.
00:20:16.540 The upper half doesn't get accused of date rape.
00:20:19.880 Not most of the time.
00:20:21.620 It's the lower half that gets that accusation.
00:20:23.500 But this constant, unceasing rebellion against natural law, against the way the universe naturally works,
00:20:39.180 that some people are smarter than others, and yet we want to believe in equality,
00:20:45.200 that some people are more moral than others,
00:20:49.520 and yet we want to believe in the fundamental moral equality of everybody.
00:20:55.320 One of the big places you see this coming out is amongst the libertarians.
00:21:01.860 Now, the libertarians, they tend to be a very economics-heavy party.
00:21:08.740 They look at most situations in a sort of an economical frame of mind.
00:21:14.480 And so, they'll take something, and I think, was it Libertarian Girl?
00:21:21.360 She ran into this recently.
00:21:22.940 Where, take something like prostitution.
00:21:26.780 You know, you can say that prostitution is probably bad,
00:21:34.380 which it probably usually is.
00:21:35.960 There might be some exceptional circumstances,
00:21:38.360 but it's probably usually a bad idea for all parties involved.
00:21:41.900 And the libertarians will say,
00:21:47.160 well, it's going to happen anyway.
00:21:49.440 Criminalizing it doesn't help anybody.
00:21:51.300 We might as well leave it be.
00:21:54.840 You know, this...
00:21:56.900 On this sense, in the economic governing sense,
00:22:00.600 they're trying to adhere to the natural law there.
00:22:02.780 Like, yes, it's going to happen anyway.
00:22:04.420 Anyway, banning it, enforcing your view of moral behavior,
00:22:10.520 it's probably a bad idea.
00:22:14.100 But then if you go and say,
00:22:15.840 well, yes, I agree it should be legal,
00:22:17.660 but I also think it's immoral,
00:22:20.960 they flip out.
00:22:22.220 They get angry at you.
00:22:27.780 Because, of course, we see all of these,
00:22:30.000 you know, these low-church Republicans
00:22:32.500 that want to try and control you, control society.
00:22:35.460 They flip out and accuse you of being one of those,
00:22:38.720 even though you just said you want it legal.
00:22:39.920 And, in fact,
00:22:46.680 go watch Penn and Teller.
00:22:48.140 They're the perfect example of this.
00:22:49.760 There's a certain obsession
00:22:51.880 with immoral behavior.
00:22:56.480 Behavior that violates natural law.
00:23:02.560 So you've got Penn and Teller,
00:23:05.520 who are themselves married,
00:23:08.000 who are themselves examples
00:23:10.920 of fairly traditional patriarchs,
00:23:14.220 who go out of their way
00:23:15.820 to put all sorts of tits on their show,
00:23:18.540 who go out of their way
00:23:20.100 to advocate all sorts of
00:23:22.940 new, different forms of marriage.
00:23:26.300 You know,
00:23:27.860 poly-swinging whatever.
00:23:30.140 All out of this desire to seem edgy.
00:23:41.680 Because that's what it boils down to,
00:23:43.600 is that rebellion is edgy.
00:23:47.120 Rebellion is cool nowadays.
00:23:49.440 So we're not going to be like those
00:23:51.040 lame kids that go and buy their goth clothes
00:23:53.900 at Hot Topic.
00:23:55.440 We're going to be libertarians
00:23:58.980 that support this liberal party idea
00:24:01.420 to rebel against those
00:24:03.360 fuddy-duddy conservatives.
00:24:13.660 Heck, you even see it here in the Manosphere.
00:24:15.740 There's a logo,
00:24:18.660 which I absolutely love,
00:24:19.600 by the way,
00:24:20.040 and I'm not criticizing you guys at all.
00:24:24.560 But the evil patriarchy logo,
00:24:28.200 where the male Mars symbol
00:24:30.300 with the devil inside of it,
00:24:33.320 I mean,
00:24:33.820 here's the thing,
00:24:34.660 we're advocating
00:24:35.560 love and protection
00:24:36.840 of women and children,
00:24:39.320 and adherence to,
00:24:41.660 you know,
00:24:42.420 a Republican set of values,
00:24:43.620 and
00:24:44.880 martial valor,
00:24:47.720 and masculinity,
00:24:48.860 and femininity,
00:24:50.240 and healthy families,
00:24:51.360 and education,
00:24:52.280 and we're advocating all this,
00:24:53.620 and we have to call ourselves evil.
00:24:56.460 You know that we all joke
00:24:58.640 about being these evil right-wing bastards.
00:25:02.700 Again,
00:25:03.320 because that constant,
00:25:05.000 that constant need
00:25:06.800 to rebel against something
00:25:08.700 in our society.
00:25:10.400 We have so diverged
00:25:21.000 from natural law
00:25:22.980 that those who claim
00:25:26.940 to hold natural law
00:25:28.260 are some of the most
00:25:30.040 oppressive,
00:25:33.040 self-centered,
00:25:35.480 deluded,
00:25:36.860 bigoted,
00:25:37.160 ugly people out there.
00:25:44.520 Ain't that the perfect dialectic?
00:25:51.420 You know,
00:25:52.000 over here,
00:25:52.580 you got the liberals.
00:25:54.180 Right?
00:25:55.120 The liberals
00:25:55.700 change their mind constantly,
00:25:57.960 but they believe in something,
00:25:59.860 they hope in change,
00:26:01.400 and they don't know
00:26:02.080 what they believe in,
00:26:03.780 but they always
00:26:04.780 believe in it.
00:26:07.140 And over here,
00:26:08.760 you got
00:26:09.460 the conservatives.
00:26:11.060 You got these guys
00:26:12.140 that say
00:26:13.140 they believe in natural law,
00:26:15.040 and traditionalism,
00:26:16.060 and all that,
00:26:16.980 and are the biggest
00:26:18.040 money-grubbing,
00:26:20.120 whoring,
00:26:21.320 gay,
00:26:21.980 prostitute,
00:26:22.580 hiring hypocrites
00:26:23.540 you've ever seen.
00:26:24.980 where
00:26:26.360 the liberals
00:26:30.300 glorify
00:26:32.200 in how
00:26:32.940 depraved
00:26:33.900 we all are
00:26:35.560 that
00:26:36.200 all of us
00:26:37.280 rebel
00:26:38.380 constantly
00:26:39.180 against natural law,
00:26:42.400 and thus
00:26:43.820 somehow prove,
00:26:45.020 because we're all
00:26:45.680 hypocrites,
00:26:46.520 that natural law
00:26:47.560 doesn't exist.
00:26:49.340 Well,
00:26:49.560 bad news,
00:26:52.560 folks.
00:26:53.700 No matter how
00:26:54.660 delicious the dinner,
00:26:55.700 the check always comes.
00:27:00.120 And we're a society
00:27:01.280 that is
00:27:01.700 really
00:27:02.840 not prepared
00:27:03.840 to pay the check
00:27:04.820 that's going to be
00:27:05.380 delivered to us.
00:27:06.200 One of the most
00:27:14.040 intelligent things
00:27:15.020 I ever heard
00:27:16.020 about religion
00:27:17.360 is,
00:27:18.260 ironically,
00:27:20.060 from those
00:27:21.200 Jay and Silent Bob
00:27:22.140 movies.
00:27:23.960 The,
00:27:24.260 that one
00:27:27.620 where
00:27:28.040 the
00:27:28.380 archangels
00:27:30.220 want to
00:27:30.860 destroy the universe
00:27:32.680 by using
00:27:33.520 a
00:27:33.880 contradiction
00:27:35.940 in Catholic law,
00:27:37.480 which is strangely
00:27:39.700 appropriate,
00:27:40.440 come to think of it,
00:27:41.680 given this video.
00:27:47.260 Stop believing
00:27:48.260 and have a good idea.
00:27:49.980 Have some
00:27:50.400 goddamn humbleness
00:27:51.640 in your heart.
00:27:53.020 And
00:27:53.220 God did such a
00:27:56.380 great job
00:27:56.820 covering himself up.
00:27:59.800 Try not to spend
00:28:00.740 too much time
00:28:01.480 believing in him.
00:28:02.340 It's probably not
00:28:03.140 good for your health.
00:28:04.000 or your
00:28:05.660 immortal soul.
00:28:06.940 Arini out.
00:28:07.540 Arini out.