Leo D.M.J. Aurini - Natural Law and Eternal Rebellion

00:00:00.000 Now, it's no secret that one of my interests, a lifelong interest, but in particular over the

00:00:10.920 past few months, is theology. I've been mentioning it a fair bit in my videos and studying it even

00:00:17.940 more so. And I swear, not a week goes by that I don't either have somebody demanding that I

00:00:27.960 explain why I'm not a Christian, or an atheist asking me if I found religion in my old age.

00:00:37.980 You know, ain't it funny that there isn't a religion on the planet, aside from Islam, that 1.00

00:00:48.660 doesn't say, be humble. I mean, there's a damn good reason for that advice. Fact of the matter 0.82

00:00:59.500 is that the loudest and most boastful are usually those that are hiding the most. Whereas if

00:01:08.720 you stay humble, if you try not to be a braggart, you tend to have a bit more respect. Your voice

00:01:17.940 carries a bit more weight to it. Certainly myself. I've done advertising for other people

00:01:24.680 before, and I've been pretty good at it, but doing advertising for my own bloody book is

00:01:30.360 proving to be quite the challenge. Being boastful about it does not come naturally to me.

00:01:36.980 And yet this religious thing, people identify so strongly with their religion. They all want

00:01:47.620 to argue about how, you know, I'm an atheist and I know everything, or I'm a Baptist, or

00:01:55.960 I'm a Catholic, or whatever. They all demand that you show them respect because they believe

00:02:04.500 something. It's absolutely ridiculous, and it goes against the bloody teachings within 0.97

00:02:12.540 the thing. Now, you know, Moldbug would be quick to point out that this is just a puritanical 0.97

00:02:19.960 quirk, you know, that this atheists need to prove that they're right because they're the 1.00

00:02:26.000 modern interpretation of the gospel. And he's absolutely right in that. But there's a bit

00:02:30.800 more to it, I think.

00:02:35.020 I think in Rising to Power that the Puritans kind of degraded all religions down to this, 1.00

00:02:42.600 you know, this pissing contest of who's the right religion. Instead of having a humbleness 0.97

00:02:49.920 and an openness to other ways of looking at the world, there's a self-righteousness, a materialistic

00:02:59.860 proving that, you know, I belong to the winning team. God loves me more than he loves you.

00:03:06.760 It's quite absurd. Oh, and just for the record, I would not call myself a Christian after the 0.94

00:03:17.560 Fourth Lateran Council. An atheist? Well, the creator did such a great job hiding his own 1.00

00:03:25.300 work that it'd be downright rude to believe in him, so of course I'm an atheist. All that

00:03:31.280 said, let's get to the actual topic of this video, natural law. Now, natural law is a sort

00:03:39.520 of word you'll hear thrown around, I guess you could call them the low church. You'll hear

00:03:46.060 these ridiculous Republican protesters screaming about their religion, screaming about natural 0.99

00:03:53.340 law, and of course they know what natural law is. They have it completely figured out, and 0.99

00:03:59.520 it's whatever supports their contemporary political cause. Natural law is a bit more

00:04:08.820 than that. And see, what all this boils down to, the reason that I find theology so interesting,

00:04:18.240 and in about six months I'll probably turn around and get really heavy into mathematics and quantum

00:04:24.140 theory again or something like that. See, there's two different levels of abstraction you can take

00:04:32.940 the universe at. There's the material abstraction, and this is most of science. Whether it's high-level

00:04:45.020 science like climatology or extremely low-level like quantum mechanics where we're dealing purely with

00:04:52.060 mathematical probabilities and formula, it's this measurable engineering problem. And your typical

00:05:04.220 atheist response is going to be that ethics is an engineering problem. Now, certainly over at Less

00:05:12.860 LessWrong, they've done a lot of work to try and reduce morality and society down to a mathematical formulation, an engineering problem.

00:05:25.020 And they've done a lot of very good work in that direction. If you're not reading LessWrong, start reading LessWrong.

00:05:34.860 Go click on the, there's a wiki on the side, look up the sequences, and you'll disappear into there for like a good three weeks.

00:05:44.860 Absolutely amazing, the stuff they've done.

00:05:47.020 And there are certain low-level engineering aspects. You know, we can do a sociological study of what's the effect of prior partner count on marriages,

00:05:58.860 what's the effect of diversity on a neighborhood. We can do those sorts of studies, and we can learn valuable information.

00:06:08.860 Certainly, studying science does not directly affect morality, but it's very good to be living in a world with industrial agriculture,

00:06:22.860 and indoor plumbing, and traffic, traffic that's controlled by mathematical formulas. Thank God.

00:06:33.340 So it doesn't directly affect morality, but it is all very good stuff to be studying.

00:06:39.580 Now, what these, the people that are trying to reduce everything to an engineering issue,

00:06:45.340 what they're missing is the upper-level abstract, that there are certain patterns that repeat themselves

00:06:57.900 again and again at the high level. And this thing, this pattern that we notice,

00:07:06.700 this is what's meant by natural law. The law that is naturally ordained by the universe that you can't fight against.

00:07:25.420 Now, in a prior video, I said that, for instance, natural law means that if you spend all your time

00:07:34.700 time chasing after a new line of coke or chasing after meaningless empty sex with randoms, if you live a

00:07:46.620 completely hedonistic lifestyle, a completely selfish, psychopathic lifestyle, that it will catch up with you in the end.

00:07:57.180 If you're poor, it's going to catch up with you pretty quickly, but even the rich, it catches up to them.

00:08:04.220 It leaves them in wreckage and misery. And I know that the, I already hear the immediate

00:08:12.380 atheist response to suggest that there's some sort of karmic force in the universe.

00:08:19.260 What about all those, those people that suffer needlessly? You know, what about all those,

00:08:23.980 those rich SOBs that die happily? And can you show me one of the latter? 1.00

00:08:32.620 Oh, there's certainly a lot of needless suffering in this universe.

00:08:37.740 And when you describe it as a karmic force, as an active agent, then it certainly implied that an 0.78

00:08:50.140 active agent wouldn't create this sort of suffering, now would it? So that's, that's not

00:08:56.220 what natural law is. It's not a cosmic agent. Or at least it certainly doesn't behave like one,

00:09:05.020 I suppose it could be. A great example of natural law is Austrian economics. Seriously.

00:09:17.980 Austrian economics is true whether or not you want it to be.

00:09:25.020 Right now in the situation we are in, in the world, where we've, we've switched from,

00:09:32.940 we've switched from gold-backed currencies to, to funny money. It's inevitable that we're going to

00:09:41.740 collapse. In fact, I just saw a link, I'm going to, I'll put it down below, about how there was

00:09:48.780 basically zero inflation in the United States until they, the Federal Reserve, and in particular going

00:09:57.260 off the gold standard to help accelerate it way more. But you see this, this very flat,

00:10:02.780 flat line, and then just this rocketing, rocketing, uh, you know, like the, the cost of average goods.

00:10:12.220 It's very stark, you know, like, please argue with me Keynesians, argue that graph, please.

00:10:20.060 As Aaron Clary put it, it's, it's hard to predict when the collapse is going to come, because

00:10:25.980 the Keynesian funny money, they, they always, you know, they always come up with another little quirk,

00:10:32.380 another different type of bailout, another different way of seemingly to manipulate things,

00:10:38.540 so they get away with it. They keep seeming to get away with it until in the end

00:10:44.940 the wall hits them that much harder.

00:10:55.180 Because economics is natural law.

00:11:01.020 Fact of the matter is that if you don't produce anything, you can't be wealthy,

00:11:05.340 and that shall be the whole of the law.

00:11:12.780 Economics is the most obvious. It's the easiest to understand, because we, you know,

00:11:18.460 try and explain economic theory like this to a small business owner in a community of 500 people.

00:11:24.700 I mean, it's hard enough explaining it to people nowadays, when inflation's going through the roof,

00:11:29.740 when, uh, corporations are getting bailed out, and we have more people unemployed than ever before.

00:11:40.540 Well, that wasn't very friendly.

00:11:45.340 But imagine trying to explain it into a small village, where they don't see the aggregate effects

00:11:50.540 of all these terrible policies. So that's one part of natural law.

00:12:04.620 Another part is warfare.

00:12:11.500 Sun Tze, the art of war, has been in print since the guy first wrote it.

00:12:20.780 The book of five rings.

00:12:23.820 Same thing there.

00:12:25.820 It is extremely popular with, you'll find it in the business section.

00:12:34.140 And now if you read these books, there's, there's nothing that you can really nail down.

00:12:39.260 It's all very abstract. It's all about patterns. You know, bury your chariot wheels

00:12:46.140 to urge your men into battle. Except for all those times when a tactical retreat is how you win the battle.

00:12:59.820 There's the, uh, shoot, I can't remember his name right now, but the series of books,

00:13:03.420 48 Laws of Power, uh, The Art of Seduction, I think the 33 Strategies of War.

00:13:08.620 I've chatted with the guy on email a few times. Very, very intelligent man.

00:13:13.820 And yet none of his rules can be put down into an engineering problem.

00:13:19.500 These are all high-level abstract patterns.

00:13:22.860 And to go back to Austrian economics, yes, good businesses fail sometimes,

00:13:35.100 because there's a flood, or because there's a solar eclipse, or because of some external factor.

00:13:42.940 Natural law is not a karmic force that seeks out justice. It's a force that inevitably punishes

00:13:55.500 anybody that's going against it, eventually. It can take a while to catch up with you,

00:14:00.860 but it always catches up to you.

00:14:02.380 You can be a, you can be the general of one of the wealthiest armies out there,

00:14:14.540 you can have the best technology, and the best trained soldiers, and you can still lose every war.

00:14:24.220 Exactly like the United States has been doing ever since the end of World War II.

00:14:27.980 Have they won anything, despite having the best tactics and the best generals?

00:14:37.020 No, because they have the wrong strategy. This is natural law.

00:14:46.540 And it's an entirely sensible thing to talk about.

00:14:49.900 If you're trying to pick up women by being a nice guy who deserves it on the inside, 0.99

00:15:02.620 without ever acquiring any life skills that are interesting, accomplishing anything,

00:15:08.540 without learning what women are actually attracted to, and becoming that, 1.00

00:15:13.820 then you're never going to attract women. It doesn't matter how much you think you deserve it. 0.99

00:15:20.460 Natural law says that if you're a beta, even if you're a millionaire beta,

00:15:27.980 your wife's going to cheat on you eventually. 1.00

00:15:33.180 And of course, the wife that cheats is going to come to her own sort of a bad end. 1.00

00:15:38.540 Natural law is there.

00:15:47.580 I certainly don't understand all of it. Otherwise, my armies would have taken over the world already.

00:15:52.620 And anybody that likes to scream and yell about how they hate this group or that group because they don't follow it and condemning everybody,

00:16:04.940 acting with none of the humbleness that you ought to act with, they certainly don't understand it either.

00:16:10.460 But it's not a ridiculous concept. It's one of these things that's been appropriated by the low church. 0.98

00:16:20.620 That the high church, which is an atheist cult, which is modern liberalism, has rejected it

00:16:28.700 and assigned it onto the low church, the enemies that will make them look good.

00:16:36.700 Now we get to the second part of this video. Rebellion.

00:16:43.420 Because violation of natural law is almost always some sort of rebellion against natural authority.

00:17:01.100 It's a rejection of the way the world works. A reputation of it.

00:17:13.420 On the low levels, it's simply a reputation. A repudiation of legitimate authority.

00:17:29.420 There's a comic I saw a while back. A captioned photo of a kid riding lawnmower with a grandmother in the background

00:17:39.260 that looks like she's screaming at him.

00:17:41.020 And the kid kind of just happens to have a surly expression on his face at the time.

00:17:46.140 And the caption goes, get back here, young man. 1.00

00:17:50.620 And he says, fuck you, you're not my real dad. Gonna go listen to some Linkin Park. 1.00

00:17:57.180 And like this is, it's so funny because this is so normal nowadays that our entire culture celebrates rebellion.

00:18:07.660 Rebellion. Rebellion has become a commodity that's packaged and marketed and sold at discount outlets.

00:18:14.620 And we can all buy our brand of disconformity.

00:18:19.020 And it's gotten so bad that even like the hipsters now dress like somebody from the 1950s who was dressing to conform to look like you wore a suit, a fedora, you look like a real man.

00:18:34.620 No, they're wearing the suit and the fedora to protest against something.

00:18:42.700 The meta, meta, meta level protest.

00:18:45.340 And this is why they're made fun of. 0.99

00:18:47.360 Because when you go that far, it's obvious to everybody that you're ridiculous. 0.98

00:18:52.220 But what's not so obvious is the ridiculousness in our own constant rebellion. 0.96

00:19:05.260 Our culture all goes to the 1960s.

00:19:08.540 This cultural revolution.

00:19:12.940 This generational rebellion that they had.

00:19:18.940 Or they had better, newer ideas.

00:19:21.180 You know, it's not fair that people that work hard get to make a lot of money and those that don't work hard don't make a lot of money.

00:19:30.620 These rebellions against economics.

00:19:34.160 These rebellions against gender.

00:19:36.860 You know, it's not fair that a 45-year-old man can be sexy, but a 45-year-old woman can't. 1.00

00:19:44.020 So we're going to try and change reality so that 45-year-old woman can be sexy. 1.00

00:19:50.820 How well did that work?

00:19:51.900 And again, this trend of Puritanism.

00:19:59.100 Where Puritanism seems like a religion designed so that the top males can sleep with all the women. 0.52

00:20:05.200 And completely punishing, it punishes male sexuality because that punishment only affects the lower half of the bell curve.

00:20:14.060 Not the upper half.

00:20:16.540 The upper half doesn't get accused of date rape.

00:20:19.880 Not most of the time.

00:20:21.620 It's the lower half that gets that accusation.

00:20:23.500 But this constant, unceasing rebellion against natural law, against the way the universe naturally works,

00:20:39.180 that some people are smarter than others, and yet we want to believe in equality,

00:20:45.200 that some people are more moral than others,

00:20:49.520 and yet we want to believe in the fundamental moral equality of everybody.

00:20:55.320 One of the big places you see this coming out is amongst the libertarians.

00:21:01.860 Now, the libertarians, they tend to be a very economics-heavy party.

00:21:08.740 They look at most situations in a sort of an economical frame of mind.

00:21:14.480 And so, they'll take something, and I think, was it Libertarian Girl?

00:21:21.360 She ran into this recently.

00:21:22.940 Where, take something like prostitution. 1.00

00:21:26.780 You know, you can say that prostitution is probably bad, 1.00

00:21:34.380 which it probably usually is.

00:21:35.960 There might be some exceptional circumstances,

00:21:38.360 but it's probably usually a bad idea for all parties involved.

00:21:41.900 And the libertarians will say,

00:21:47.160 well, it's going to happen anyway.

00:21:49.440 Criminalizing it doesn't help anybody.

00:21:51.300 We might as well leave it be.

00:21:54.840 You know, this...

00:21:56.900 On this sense, in the economic governing sense,

00:22:00.600 they're trying to adhere to the natural law there.

00:22:02.780 Like, yes, it's going to happen anyway.

00:22:04.420 Anyway, banning it, enforcing your view of moral behavior,

00:22:10.520 it's probably a bad idea.

00:22:14.100 But then if you go and say,

00:22:15.840 well, yes, I agree it should be legal,

00:22:17.660 but I also think it's immoral,

00:22:20.960 they flip out.

00:22:22.220 They get angry at you.

00:22:27.780 Because, of course, we see all of these,

00:22:30.000 you know, these low-church Republicans

00:22:32.500 that want to try and control you, control society.

00:22:35.460 They flip out and accuse you of being one of those,

00:22:38.720 even though you just said you want it legal.

00:22:39.920 And, in fact,

00:22:46.680 go watch Penn and Teller.

00:22:48.140 They're the perfect example of this.

00:22:49.760 There's a certain obsession

00:22:51.880 with immoral behavior.

00:22:56.480 Behavior that violates natural law.

00:23:02.560 So you've got Penn and Teller,

00:23:05.520 who are themselves married,

00:23:08.000 who are themselves examples

00:23:10.920 of fairly traditional patriarchs,

00:23:14.220 who go out of their way 0.99

00:23:15.820 to put all sorts of tits on their show, 1.00

00:23:18.540 who go out of their way 0.99

00:23:20.100 to advocate all sorts of

00:23:22.940 new, different forms of marriage.

00:23:26.300 You know,

00:23:27.860 poly-swinging whatever.

00:23:30.140 All out of this desire to seem edgy.

00:23:41.680 Because that's what it boils down to,

00:23:43.600 is that rebellion is edgy.

00:23:47.120 Rebellion is cool nowadays.

00:23:49.440 So we're not going to be like those 0.75

00:23:51.040 lame kids that go and buy their goth clothes 0.97

00:23:53.900 at Hot Topic. 0.92

00:23:55.440 We're going to be libertarians

00:23:58.980 that support this liberal party idea

00:24:01.420 to rebel against those

00:24:03.360 fuddy-duddy conservatives.

00:24:13.660 Heck, you even see it here in the Manosphere.

00:24:15.740 There's a logo,

00:24:18.660 which I absolutely love,

00:24:19.600 by the way,

00:24:20.040 and I'm not criticizing you guys at all.

00:24:24.560 But the evil patriarchy logo,

00:24:28.200 where the male Mars symbol

00:24:30.300 with the devil inside of it,

00:24:33.320 I mean,

00:24:33.820 here's the thing,

00:24:34.660 we're advocating

00:24:35.560 love and protection

00:24:36.840 of women and children,

00:24:39.320 and adherence to,

00:24:41.660 you know,

00:24:42.420 a Republican set of values,

00:24:43.620 and

00:24:44.880 martial valor,

00:24:47.720 and masculinity, 1.00

00:24:48.860 and femininity, 1.00

00:24:50.240 and healthy families,

00:24:51.360 and education,

00:24:52.280 and we're advocating all this,

00:24:53.620 and we have to call ourselves evil.

00:24:56.460 You know that we all joke 1.00

00:24:58.640 about being these evil right-wing bastards. 1.00

00:25:02.700 Again, 1.00

00:25:03.320 because that constant,

00:25:05.000 that constant need

00:25:06.800 to rebel against something

00:25:08.700 in our society.

00:25:10.400 We have so diverged

00:25:21.000 from natural law

00:25:22.980 that those who claim

00:25:26.940 to hold natural law

00:25:28.260 are some of the most

00:25:30.040 oppressive,

00:25:33.040 self-centered, 0.96

00:25:35.480 deluded, 0.97

00:25:36.860 bigoted, 1.00

00:25:37.160 ugly people out there. 1.00

00:25:44.520 Ain't that the perfect dialectic? 0.98

00:25:51.420 You know,

00:25:52.000 over here,

00:25:52.580 you got the liberals.

00:25:54.180 Right?

00:25:55.120 The liberals

00:25:55.700 change their mind constantly,

00:25:57.960 but they believe in something,

00:25:59.860 they hope in change,

00:26:01.400 and they don't know

00:26:02.080 what they believe in,

00:26:03.780 but they always

00:26:04.780 believe in it.

00:26:07.140 And over here,

00:26:08.760 you got

00:26:09.460 the conservatives.

00:26:11.060 You got these guys

00:26:12.140 that say

00:26:13.140 they believe in natural law,

00:26:15.040 and traditionalism,

00:26:16.060 and all that,

00:26:16.980 and are the biggest

00:26:18.040 money-grubbing, 1.00

00:26:20.120 whoring, 1.00

00:26:21.320 gay, 1.00

00:26:21.980 prostitute, 1.00

00:26:22.580 hiring hypocrites 1.00

00:26:23.540 you've ever seen. 1.00

00:26:24.980 where

00:26:26.360 the liberals

00:26:30.300 glorify

00:26:32.200 in how

00:26:32.940 depraved 0.71

00:26:33.900 we all are 0.95

00:26:35.560 that

00:26:36.200 all of us

00:26:37.280 rebel

00:26:38.380 constantly

00:26:39.180 against natural law,

00:26:42.400 and thus

00:26:43.820 somehow prove,

00:26:45.020 because we're all 0.99

00:26:45.680 hypocrites, 0.97

00:26:46.520 that natural law 1.00

00:26:47.560 doesn't exist.

00:26:49.340 Well,

00:26:49.560 bad news,

00:26:52.560 folks.

00:26:53.700 No matter how

00:26:54.660 delicious the dinner,

00:26:55.700 the check always comes.

00:27:00.120 And we're a society

00:27:01.280 that is

00:27:01.700 really

00:27:02.840 not prepared

00:27:03.840 to pay the check

00:27:04.820 that's going to be

00:27:05.380 delivered to us.

00:27:06.200 One of the most

00:27:14.040 intelligent things

00:27:15.020 I ever heard

00:27:16.020 about religion

00:27:17.360 is,

00:27:18.260 ironically,

00:27:20.060 from those

00:27:21.200 Jay and Silent Bob

00:27:22.140 movies.

00:27:23.960 The,

00:27:24.260 that one

00:27:27.620 where

00:27:28.040 the

00:27:28.380 archangels

00:27:30.220 want to 0.64

00:27:30.860 destroy the universe

00:27:32.680 by using

00:27:33.520 a

00:27:33.880 contradiction

00:27:35.940 in Catholic law,

00:27:37.480 which is strangely

00:27:39.700 appropriate,

00:27:40.440 come to think of it,

00:27:41.680 given this video.

00:27:47.260 Stop believing

00:27:48.260 and have a good idea.

00:27:49.980 Have some 1.00

00:27:50.400 goddamn humbleness 1.00

00:27:51.640 in your heart. 1.00

00:27:53.020 And

00:27:53.220 God did such a

00:27:56.380 great job

00:27:56.820 covering himself up.

00:27:59.800 Try not to spend

00:28:00.740 too much time

00:28:01.480 believing in him.

00:28:02.340 It's probably not

00:28:03.140 good for your health.

00:28:04.000 or your

00:28:05.660 immortal soul.

00:28:06.940 Arini out.

00:28:07.540 Arini out.

Leo D.M.J. Aurini - January 07, 2013

Natural Law and Eternal Rebellion

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