Nerd Hour with The Bechtloff： 2 of 3
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Summary
In this episode of The Nerd Hour, we discuss Star Wars: Episode VI - The Rise of Skywalker, Star Trek: Into the void, Star Wars prequels, and why the prequel trilogy is better than the original Star Trek. We also talk about Spider-Man getting married to Mary Jane and why that s a good thing.
Transcript
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Welcome back to the Nerd Hour. This is hour two, and where we get even nerdier. Nerd harder.
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All right, so we're kind of touching on the topic of destroying a franchise, of the difference
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between why is it that the Star Wars prequel movies are deeply offensive, but Star Trek
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2009 and Wrath of Khan Part II, eh, like I didn't even see the second one. It's like
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they suck. I know they suck. It doesn't destroy Star Trek for me. Star Trek The Next Generation
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is still awesome. Star Trek Deep Space Nine is super awesome. Star Trek Voyager still
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sucks. Well, part of that, I mean, with the prequels, it's in the official mainstream
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canon, whereas the Jay Abrams Star Trek are their own separate universe. I mean, you know,
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I'm a comic book nerd. If they make a Spider-Man movie I think is shit, well, it's its own thing.
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I don't, I can ignore it. If something that really buttfucks the franchise happens in the
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actual comic, like Brand New Day or One More Day. That's exactly what I was going to bring
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up. That is, that has buttfucked it for me. All right, what is One More Day and why did
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it bend over Spider-Man as if he were Spider-Woman? All right, well, um. Ooh, ooh, patriarchy
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joke. One More Day, uh, Spider-Man, um, back in the day. Sorry, sorry, one more aside, just
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with a pig. Go watch Maddox's video on the Spider-Woman's ass is a big ass deal. Great
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video. But, sorry, I'll stop interrupting. What is One More Day? You know what, I'll
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pimp my video. I have a video on Spider-Woman's ass and left-wing puritanism. Yes, go watch
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that. And, uh, but my video, I, I actually, I laid out, like, a whole bunch of points. I
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got a notebook, a notepad full of outlines, and I just lost my shit and start just, like,
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screaming, like, like, go away! Why won't you social justice warriors go away? Leave
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us alone! Uh, folks, Zekloff has a really good YouTube channel. Um, I only watch about
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half your videos because half the time you're talking about Pokemon or something, and I don't
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even know what it is. But then you talk about Mega Man, and I do know what you're talking
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about. And when he's talking about something that I give half of a shit about, it's excellent.
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Great, great videos. Yeah, you'll, you'll, you'll care about easily half of what I talk
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about. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Subscribe to it, if, if, in the video title, it's like, what,
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what is, what is a Pikachu? I don't know, don't care, don't watch it. But then he's going
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to talk about something you like. So, and he's very co, cogent and charismatic and handsome
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and... Well, thank you. I appreciate it. No, I'm up. Um, so, so one more day. Uh, back in
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the 80s, they had Spider-Man get married to Mary Jane. Which was, it was a, like, it
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was a 30-year love, like, love triangle. Oh, are, are Ross and Jane going to get together
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or whatever the friends bullshit? Yeah. It was like the sexual tension had lasted for
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30 years or 50 years or whatever, and then they had him get married. Now, I really like
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that. I, I, now I started reading comics in the 90s, so I, I never, you know, I never had
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it any other way. Now, of course, I read old issues through reprints and trades and
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all, but, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't what I grew up with. So I, I guess I can kind
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of understand why writers are like, well, it's not like I remember. But I like the
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dynamic. I like the dynamic because it's got that cop wife dynamic because, you know,
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he goes out to be Spider-Man. She don't know if he's coming back. You know what I mean?
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He, he could be killed by any super villain. Fucking Galactus could step on him. Hell,
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mugger could get a lucky shot. You don't know. I, I, it sounds like a wonderful growth
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of the character to me. It, it, I, I really liked him being married. Now, the problem is
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a lot of writers didn't because I, I see this in, in, in drama in particular, but I see this
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especially in superhero comics. They have a hard time writing a stable fucking relationship.
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Like all they know how to do is get a character together with someone and break them up. That's
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all the fuck writers seem to know how to do anymore. They don't seem to understand that
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there is drama within an actual stable, healthy relationship.
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That's funny. I'm actually trying to write a post right now about a stable, healthy relationship.
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Like it really is the most challenging thing you can do. And it's as a society, we are so
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mercenary and callow. Like the, the entire focus. And I mean, there's no way to disparage
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a game. My bang by Roosh is a great book. I, you should probably read it. If you're a young
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man, you should definitely read it. But it's, it's very mercenary. It's like you're, you're
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only after getting laid about. And then as soon as you get laid, you go and find another
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woman to get laid with. And it's, and the women are doing the exact same thing with
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in their own manner, with their careers and with their, you know, their, their checklist,
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their feminist checklist, their merit badges. It's a, it's a, it's still actually getting
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to know another person. You know, like friends, friendships are very mercenary, but relation,
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And here's another thing about Spider-Man that writers get wrong. Spider-Man is the
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every man character more than most, any other Marvel superhero. And a lot of writers don't
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understand where that appeal comes from. They think, well, he's the every man character.
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So his life's got to be as normal as possible. So that means we can't have him on the Avengers.
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We can't have them be married because for some reason, Joe Quesada thinks people can't relate
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to someone being married. Uh, we can't have them, you know, we can't have his life be nice
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ever. It's got, we got to constantly run him through the shitter. And what they don't understand
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is the every man appeal of a character doesn't come from the situations they're in. It comes
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from how they handle the situations. If it came from the situations he was in, he shouldn't
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even be fucking Spider-Man. Cause I, I don't do that in my, no, the every man doesn't go
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out and fight fucking super villains in his day-to-day life, do they? So they always
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The situations, the situations are all metaphors for what we all go through.
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Exactly. It's, it's how does he react to the situations? Does he react to the situations
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in a way the common man would? That's the question.
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And it's, it's that he is at the end of the day, he doesn't have invulnerability. He has
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really good reflexes, but a bullet can still kill him. And he's a kid.
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Yeah, he can bench press a Ford F-150, but a bullet to the head still takes him out.
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You know, he, he can, he's a pizza delivery boy or whatever. I saw some of the recent movies.
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Um, he, he's poor. Like he has to think, do I go and solve this crime or because I'll
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get fired from my job and I won't be able to pay rent if I do that. You know?
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Well, and again, that's a bit of a misconception. He's not always poor. He has money trouble
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sometimes. Sometimes he's doing quite well. And writers own, yeah, writers only want to
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write if he's poor because that's kind of easier drama.
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Yeah, they're, they're, they're going for the cheap, easy drama. It's, again, it's, in
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our personal lives, we all suffer these moral quandaries, these difficulties, what have
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This is something comic book writers have a hard time with. They always want to run the
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characters to the shitter and they don't realize like, like they'll often say like,
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Oh, well, everybody remembers that daredevil story. Frank Miller wrote, right? Oh, born
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again, because you know, his life just went to hell, but they don't realize the lows don't
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mean nothing without the highs. If the character's life is just always shit, nobody cares.
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Yeah, yeah, it's, but anyways, in, in the, in the mid nineties, uh, Mark and writers had
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been ever since the marriage, basically trying to undo it because they can't just regurgitate
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the same, you know, Peter stood up his date to go fight Doc Ock story a million times.
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Well, it sounds like they're deeply immature and yeah. And they just, Oh, well, he can't
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be married. No one can relate to that. Blah, blah, blah. So in the mid nineties, they did,
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uh, they briefly had Spider-Man's clone take over for him and Peter retire in an attempt
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to capture the, uh, the single Spider-Man again, but nobody liked that. So that was Peter came
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back. The clone died killed by the green goblin because green goblin is an asshole. Um, there
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was a time shortly after that, that it seemed like, uh, Mary Jane had been killed, but she'd
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really been captured by some stalker. And again, that was, Oh, now he's a divorcee. We can
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make it depressing again. Cheap drama. Finally in, in 07, uh, they did a storyline where Spider-Man's
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aunt, which is his surrogate mom was shot. And this storyline is so bad. So as I'm describing
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it, you're going to be like, none of this makes any sense, but she was shot and she was
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dying in the hospital and Spider-Man wants to save his aunt and he goes all over the place.
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He talks to like fucking sorcerers and super scientists all over the fucking place. Any
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of whom should have been able to fucking fix it. Cause it's a, yeah, she's an old woman.
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She's like 104, but it's just a bullet wound. Nobody can fix it for reasons. Finally, Mephisto,
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Mephisto shows up, who is the devil in the Marvel universe. And he's like, I can save your
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aunt. Well, what's he going to want? Is he going to want Peter's soul? Cause that's what
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the devil wants. No, I want your marriage, which doesn't make any fucking sense. So Peter
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agrees, which doesn't make any fucking sense. And so then Mephisto magically makes Aunt May
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all better. And Peter had never been married to MJ, although he had been living with her
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all this time. They just weren't married. And they just, for reasons, broke up just recently.
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Yeah. And, and also shortly before that story, Spider-Man's identity had been exposed and they
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put that genie back in the bottle, which the only reason they exposed his identity, we've
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come to find out editorially was to get to this point.
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Um, it's, it's a terrible fucking story because first of all, Mephisto, the devil, he gets
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nothing out of this. He gets nothing out of this. They don't even remember it happened.
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Well, and it's, so it's, yeah, as the reader is for catharsis.
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Yeah, here's the worst part. Um, Mary Jane always called Peter Tiger. That is important
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to understand. That's, that's her pet name for him. That's what, that's what she would
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be screaming mid-orgasm for him as they're fucking. All right. That's got to understand
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that. Um, after Mephisto does his magic and everything is back to the way Joe Quesada
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remembers it as a kid. And, uh, a guy named Starskansky who created Babylon 5, he was actually
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the writer on this, but it was very clearly Joe Quesada that pushed all of it to the extent
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that, uh, JMS, the writer, he wanted his name taken off of it. So this was Joe Quesada's
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baby, the Marvel editor in chief who, who pushed for this for a long time. So everything's
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back to normal. Peter wakes up in his bed and you hear somebody downstairs, you see a little
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word bubble say, Oh, I got breakfast ready, tiger. He goes downstairs and it's his aunt.
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And he's calling him tiger. And then he does this really creepy fucking kisser on the neck
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thing. And that's why I, and a few other people said this one more day has gross, gross
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fucking Oedipus complex shit all over it, all over it. Cause look at it this way. What
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did he do? He, he, he gave up his, his wife for his mom. Yeah. Because the wife requires
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him in the dominant, um, responsible role. You know, being a husband is all about taking
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responsibility. I mean, you and I are both bachelors. We have no responsibility whatsoever
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in the world. You know, we can, we can go die in a gutter with veins full of heroin tomorrow.
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Nobody gives a damn. We're just bachelors. We don't matter. But a husband, especially if
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you're a husband with children, you have these incredible responsibilities. You know, it is
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terrifying to recognize like you, you are responsible for providing for the family, for, for navigating
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the household, for making sure your kids grow up right, to, uh, to make sure your, your,
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your wife is safe and provided for and, and feels appreciated, even though that you're away
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at work for eight hours a day. It's terrifying responsibility being a man. Easier just to crawl
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back inside of yourself and suck on mommy's nipple. Yeah. Now when this story happened, everybody
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hated it. Everybody. Even people who didn't like the idea of Spider-Man being married hated
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it because it was incredibly poorly written. It was, it was full of plot holes. You could
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drive a truck through and not one character up to it, including the fucking devil was written
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in character. Listen, I don't even care about Spider-Man. I've never cared about Spider-Man
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and I thought it was stupid. I had an opinion on it. It was horrendously bad. Now Joe Quesada
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would, would constantly, um, defend it because this is, it, it'll, if it will ever be reversed,
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it will not be reversed while Joe Quesada is editor-in-chief at Marvel.
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Well, and, and you know what, it's more, more fundamentally from a meta level, what this,
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this event does is it erases the past, what, five, 10 years of comic books?
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20 years. 20 years of comic books that you've been paying for and reading and following faithfully
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are now gone and deleted and they don't mean anything.
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And when he's being, you wasted your time. You could just stop reading them.
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I did stop reading Spider-Man and I mean, I, I plowed through some rough stories in my long
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time of reading Spider-Man and I, I was like done. I mean, I, I, I would hop in and out every
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once in a while just to check it out. I mean, you know, I, I sell comic back issues to people
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so I get access to them. I read through them and all, but I was like done, done. I, this
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is, and then it was made worse by every time he was interviewed and immediately people were
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like, what the fuck, man? He's like, you are, you know, I mean, comic book, comic book
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fans, they can't relate to being in a relationship with a beautiful woman. Yeah. That's, that's a
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good plan. Insult your fucking customer base. This is a lot about him. Yeah. Oh, one more
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day is, is a fucking autobiography of Joe Quesada as far as I'm concerned. You know,
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one more day is the story of how Joe Quesada wants to fuck his mom. I'm on record of saying
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him. The difference here. Now if you take, um, oh, what was the, the, the final episode
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of Star Trek The Next Generation where it's like he goes into this future that winds up not
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existing. Now you have various time travel stories. Uh, actually tapestry is a great
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one. Um, yeah, you have these various time travel stories in Star Trek where what happens
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in the story didn't actually happen except it did to the character. So the story has catharsis.
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It's a what if story, you know, so it's not canon. It didn't actually happen, but it, it
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makes, it has meaning to it. What, what this, what they did with One More Day was remove
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all meaning for those past 20 years. Because it's not like those 20 years had a resolution.
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You know, it's not like the 20 years, if, if Peter had woken up out of a coma or out of
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a matrix computer or something and realized the past 20 years were a fantasy of his. And
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then, like, like, like that would at least have meaning to it. But no, he, he removed all
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It is, it was horrendously bad. It, it, it, I, it insults you for bothering to watch
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Yeah. And, and every time people complain, well, you, I mean, you're just, you fucking
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nerd. You don't know what it's like to get with a woman. And I'm like, maybe you don't
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Joe. All right. And there's an, so this has been sneaking around the back of my mind the
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whole time you've been explaining this is, um, this is what opens the door to parasites
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like Sarfezian. Like all of her critiques, like her fundamental critique is that comic books
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and video games are prurient and they, they pander to the lowest form of male desire.
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The, the 14 year old, and, and honestly, I don't think any 14 year old boy is actually
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this immature, but the stereotypical 14 year old boy that wants to see bad guys getting
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blown up and just wants to see, um, what's the angry Joe bit about ass and titties? You
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know, like this, this childish can't take responsibility, just wants strippers and explosions and, and thus
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the tropes are evil. According to Anita, tropes versus women. Tropes of literature and fiction
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are opposed to women. Unsure whether or not that includes trans women. If it, if it's just
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femininity, but femininity is not a thing, right? Cause men and women are the same.
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So it can't be tropes are opposed to femininity. Tropes must be opposed to women. Those with a
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double X chromosome. Not sure if that includes people with an XY chromosome who want to get breast
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implants. Well, you have to remember that these days you're, whatever you say you are at any
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given time. And that's why I'm a Bulbasaur. I put that in an article in reaction where it's
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talking about Brianna Wu. And, uh, you know, I made that point about trans stuff and all. And I'm
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like, well, that's why I'm a Bulbasaur. So, and somebody in the comments was like, the author is
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Yeah, this, this whole thing, it's, it's any time that, that Ms. Sarkeesian complains about
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even, you know what, quite frankly, she cherry picks her evidence. She doesn't play the bloody
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video games. Doesn't know what she's talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's, let's pretend we
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live in fantasy world where Anita Sarkeesian actually makes valid complaints where she doesn't
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manipulate the bodies of dead strippers to make it look like that's the reason you play
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the game, to impress feminists that don't play video games. Let's pretend she is actually
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complaining about, like, one more day. She's complaining that this is juvenile masculinity
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that refuses to take responsibility for their actions and just wants a reset button, so he
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abandons his wife and goes and sleeps with the mistress. But yeah, that would actually be
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a really great feminist frequency critique. Hey, Anita, take this one as a freebie. You
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know, like, go do something useful with your miserable life and actually make some valid
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critiques. But it's, but this whole, every critique she has, like, women in refrigerators.
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Again, it's a trope. It's one of the ways you can create dramatic fiction is to have somebody's
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significant other murdered. And so they go on a revenge spree. Yeah, that's basically
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the story of the Punisher. Right? But when it's used in a ham-fisted manner, it stands out
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and it's terrible and nobody likes it. Which is exactly one more day. Even the example, the
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women in the refrigerator example that is cited, the actual woman in the refrigerator, that's
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not a bad example in my mind. I think that's actually really cool. Because in the story,
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there was a new Green Lantern. Kyle Rayner had become the Green Lantern. He didn't want
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to be the Green Lantern, but it got thrust upon him. And at first he's like, I don't really
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want to do this. And his girlfriend's like, no, you got to do this. It's fucking cool.
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You know, you're, you're, go be a man, you know, man the fuck up. And she basically gets
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him to, to man the fuck up. So that makes it much more powerful when very shortly in his
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career is Green Lantern. A supervillain finds who he is, uh, comes home, comes to his house,
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kills his girlfriend and stuffs her in the refrigerator. That's some gnarly shit to get
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over. Well, and isn't that, we were just talking about Spider-Man. Isn't that the exact
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story of Spider-Man with his uncle? Yeah. You never hear about parental figure in the
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refrigerator. And you know, I mean, Batman's parents, Spider-Man's uncle, you know, Superman's
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whole fucking planet. If you go to TV tropes, I'm sure you can find that reference. But
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that, this is the thing. It's absolutely evident that, uh, Ms. Sarkeesian did nothing but scour
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TV tropes for anything that was vaguely offensive to women in the most narrow-minded and narcissistic
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And the bitch Gail Dines, who used to be a pretty decent writer, but now she's shit. And
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she's this feminist fat fuck. And she's the one that had a hissy fit over the writer Ron
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Mars, over the women in the refrigerator, probably because she was going through the change of
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Fuck Gail Dines. I'm serious. So, you know what? Fuck it. Ms. Dines, if you should happen to
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Man, I am. And you know what? I used to love a lot of Gail Dines' writings. But ever since
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I wrote that review of fucking her shitty new Red Sonja series on my blog, and she retweeted
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it and fucking had a bunch of snarky comments about it like a teenage girl. You are a professional
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fucking writer, woman. That's not how you handle a bad review.
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Well, she's a feminist that hangs out with evangelicals. And I think that tells you a lot about feminists
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Yeah. I've been worse than a fucking blue pill conservative.
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But anyway, so this... The problem with One More Day is that it's written by a man-child.
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You know, it deserves... The thing is, it is... This is not a problem with the audience.
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When any of this... Listen, pretending that Anita had valid complaints... Like, we both know
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that her complaints are founded upon finding something to complain about. But there are
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critiques to be made. And there are critiques of the medium. And it's when the medium is abused
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by the creators in it. And that's what we're talking about with One More Day. It's not that
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the audience is brilliant and can't handle Spider-Man being married. It's that the guy in charge
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Because first of all, it's incredibly poorly done.
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Take aside what it was trying to accomplish, it's... It does it
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You know, if I was... If I was so inclined to go from point A to point B
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I could think of dozens of ways I could actually write a decent story that did that, that accomplished
00:24:54.240
You know, I had a number of friends in the stand-up comic community back in Calgary.
00:24:59.940
And... And... I don't know if it's the stand-up comic community or if it's just people in
00:25:04.160
general, but it's a very blue pill, pro-feminist, don't want to offend anybody. I mean, the irony
00:25:10.440
that comics are terrified of offending people. Maybe it's a Canadian thing since...
00:25:15.780
that comics in Canada have actually been prosecuted for their humor being offensive.
00:25:22.840
Who knows? Maybe it's that I'm just so far away from blue pill, but everyone's blue pill
00:25:31.240
The point is that there is no such thing as an offensive joke.
00:25:38.880
Any time somebody complains about a joke being offensive, it's never a funny joke that gets
00:25:52.000
It's always a joke that fell flat, a joke that failed, that they consider offensive.
00:25:58.160
Well, with some people, every joke is offensive because they have no sense of humor.
00:26:03.240
I mean, you know, you mentioned feminists and evangelicals, and they're key at the top
00:26:19.060
He had a routine where he said, even rape can be offensive.
00:26:29.240
Nobody ever complained about that joke because it was funny.
00:26:45.040
Any time a feminist says, like, on Twitter or something, like, rape is never funny, I
00:26:56.540
And then my favorite is, imagine a clown raping a clown.
00:27:19.500
The irony being, like, of course, humor is a reaction against horrible things.
00:27:26.980
Humor is us laughing at the devil and laughing at death.
00:27:31.700
Yeah, I once heard a theologian said there would be no humor in heaven for the same reason
00:27:45.280
That there would be the joyful laughter, but there wouldn't be humor, because there would
00:27:59.220
Even art of things that are beautiful are about, like, the gap, the chasm between us and that
00:28:11.580
There's this one sculpture, I believe it's called Faith.
00:28:15.020
And it's the sculpture of a young girl praying with perfect faith in God, and it's the most
00:28:23.080
amazing and beautiful depiction of the human form I've ever seen, and it is beyond any human
00:28:32.640
It's an amazing sculpture, and it's painful to look at, because that beautiful and perfect
00:28:39.500
faith this young girl has is unobtainable in us or in reality.
00:28:48.880
But I was going somewhere with this humor, though.
00:28:52.200
Is that they complain about the humor when it's a joke that falls flat.
00:28:57.000
Or, if it's a joke that was actually a really funny joke, the example of the prosecuted
00:29:03.540
Canadian, there are these two lesbians that were...
00:29:08.380
It was an open mic night, and so there were a lot of amateurs getting up on stage, which
00:29:12.360
was very nerve-wracking for a first-time comedian, and they were heckling all of these first-comers
00:29:22.240
And so he got up on stage, who's the emcee of the whole thing, and to...
00:29:27.000
Keep the spirit going, he said, you two aren't even lesbians.
00:29:30.700
You're just so ugly, nobody else will fuck you.
00:29:39.780
Well, like, of the 15 people that were actually there at the bar, they loved it.
00:29:44.280
But these two nasty pieces of work went and complained to the Human Rights Tribunal, and
00:29:50.760
out of context, without a video recording, without anything, like, misconstrued, it's
00:30:01.580
Did you ever see the video of Kramer making racist remarks?
00:30:07.420
Yeah, I saw that he, uh, I guess, some black guy heckled at him, he started, uh, started
00:30:20.560
But, understand, first of all, that this guy, he played Kramer on Seinfeld, I can't remember
00:30:33.820
The only reason he was doing stand-up was because he'd been on Seinfeld.
00:30:48.900
And so then he's at this, this club where he is getting heckled rather viciously, and
00:30:56.960
it was apparently by a bunch of black guys, which is really neither here, it just happened
00:31:07.340
And his supposed racist remarks that he made were that you ought to be strung up by the nose.
00:31:31.720
Have you ever heard anybody say, strung up that...
00:31:39.220
I pretty much hear, you know, you don't hang somebody by the nose.
00:31:45.220
What Michael Richards was doing on that video, he was trying to deal with the heckling.
00:31:53.160
He was trying to make a racist joke that wasn't racist.
00:31:57.520
Because, like, nobody says string up by the nose.
00:32:01.300
They were calling him a honky, and so he was trying to pretend to be racist for comedic effect.
00:32:07.640
But he was out of his depth, and he told a joke that wasn't funny.
00:32:16.580
When people accuse me of being racist, I always tell them, hey, my best friend is Native American, and that's close enough.
00:32:24.040
But what this boils down to, it's an issue of censorship.
00:32:33.420
Because if you start censoring offensive jokes...
00:32:40.420
You can not write a legal definition of an offensive joke.
00:32:44.160
An offensive joke is just a joke that was not funny.
00:32:49.840
If we had computers, we'd be doing all our comedy for us.
00:33:05.860
And everybody can point at that trope that you misused in the story.
00:33:17.600
It's not that it's anti-woman or anti-whatever.
00:33:26.040
And a bad story is going to be hackneyed and predictable and full of obvious tropes.
00:33:38.840
And, you know, stories have to be certain lengths, so sometimes you have to take a shortcut.
00:33:50.600
It's that we've been writing stories for so long
00:33:52.340
that there's now a shorthand of mechanisms used in plots.
00:34:07.300
I mean, I keep hearing about these gore novels from Jordan.
00:34:12.220
I'm pretty sure if you and I read the gore novels, we wouldn't like them.
00:34:21.440
The only time I ever heard of gore novels before Jordan
00:34:28.220
was I heard that there was a subset of BDSNM called Gorean Philosophy,
00:34:39.040
You know, people have to throw a fancy fucking word on top of their goddamn fetish these days.
00:34:44.860
But it was just a fancy way of saying, you know, BDSNM where the man is dominant.
00:34:49.220
And I was like, well, what the hell does gore mean?
00:34:57.120
And so I, you know, googled it and I was like, oh, it's based on some novels.
00:35:07.360
You know, I think that it might be very comparable to torture porn.
00:35:16.560
I remember years ago with my girlfriend at the time, she rented it.
00:35:28.840
Because it's 10 minutes of softcore porn followed by a snuff film.
00:35:31.820
Yeah, it's an hour of boredom with utterly stereotypical characters.
00:35:37.400
And you know who's going to die and who's going to live right from the first five minutes.
00:35:43.860
And then it's got 20 minutes of extreme violence.
00:35:56.580
Hostel was one of the first horror movies that didn't get the point that like...
00:36:00.860
If the characters, if my protagonists are assholes, then I don't care that they're getting tortured.
00:36:10.560
It's the sort of movie where it offends me not being...
00:36:15.100
Like it's not really offensive in and of itself.
00:36:23.620
I'm offended by the movie because people like it.
00:36:29.640
By the time you get to the torture scenes, I hate everybody in the movie.
00:36:42.480
Like everyone calls the Saw movies torture porn.
00:36:45.100
But at least the first couple of ones had cool mysteries in them.
00:36:56.460
It's just like, here's some titties and here's some blood.
00:37:03.340
There is a prurient audience that seems to like these movies for some frickin' reason.
00:37:22.020
And the body horror in Alien and Aliens, I absolutely love.
00:37:28.400
Because it doesn't serve any narrative purpose.
00:37:34.100
There is this weird cult of fetishists or whatever they are that just love it.
00:37:42.880
Alright, well, there's a weird group of fetishists that love the gore novels, apparently.
00:37:49.400
You know, to talk, like, and let's extend this metaphor into porn itself.
00:37:53.780
Um, let, let's say you, because it's not the nipple or the, the, the jeans, the bagoos,
00:38:00.660
the, the, the, the guineas, the, the, the, the gagas.
00:38:08.580
That, it's, it's, that's not what makes porn, porn.
00:38:15.600
It's like, if you banned all that stuff, all you would do is ruin good cinema.
00:38:20.680
You know, like, like, like, like, look at Japan.
00:38:22.860
Like, you're, you ban all that stuff from appearing on cinema?
00:38:25.640
You're, you're, you're just gonna have a woman, um, squirting eels out of her vagina, but behind a screen.
00:38:40.620
I'm sorry, you're gonna have to saw movies no matter what.
00:38:44.180
I wish they didn't exist, but you're, you're gonna have them.
00:38:50.320
Yeah, as, as, as long as people can, as long as there's communication, they'll be porn.
00:38:54.880
I'm, I'm pretty sure the second thing ever drawn on a cave was tits.
00:39:00.980
I, you know, I wish the Goranopols didn't exist.
00:39:03.720
I, I wish that, um, you know, prurient garbage didn't exist.
00:39:12.620
And that's just, yeah, there, there's people out there that want that stuff.
00:39:21.700
I mean, porn, porn does not exist because men hate women, or men treat women like authors.
00:39:26.520
It's because there are people that will pay for it.
00:39:35.820
And when they can't have sex, they'll settle for watching people have sex.
00:39:43.640
I mean, there's no greater, there's no greater, more grandiose, systemic reason that it exists other than that.
00:39:52.580
If we were a morally perfect species, there wouldn't be any porn because we'd be too busy having sex with our wives.
00:40:02.340
And in the perfect world, every horror movie that had a lot of bloody violence would be alien.
00:40:06.820
Instead, we'd get a lot of torture porn garbage.
00:40:15.240
In a perfect world, there'd be no One More Day or Anita Sarkeesian.
00:40:24.500
She could tear that thing to pieces, but she probably doesn't even know it exists.
00:40:31.900
She'd actually have to do some work to criticize it.
00:40:41.280
I mean, like, with all of her video game tropes, and I'm actually paraphrasing one of the people we talked to in the documentary, but it's like...
00:40:48.820
He would say, because I've watched her stuff, but it's so forgettable.
00:40:57.800
She only plays the first few levels, and she just...
00:41:00.760
Basically, she goes around looking for stuff to complain about that she can...
00:41:05.020
You know, like, she'll spend, like, three hours playing it one evening, and then another eight hours the next day recording the footage of her playing it.
00:41:14.300
Oh, she likes to rip on Mario games, I know a lot, which...
00:41:21.040
It always amazes me that fucking Bob Chipman will defend her so much when she shits on his favorite thing in the world.
00:41:30.040
I mean, I love Mario, too, but I'm not all autistic about it, like fucking Bob.
00:41:49.600
For those of you who don't know, MovieBob wrote a book about Mario 3.
00:41:55.220
And the idea of the book was that he was going to talk about the history of the Mario franchise as well as Mario 3.
00:42:04.420
And then do a complete analysis of every single level in the game.
00:42:10.280
And there's a lot of levels in that game, obviously.
00:42:13.920
You know, it was one of the first games that had the overview world map that Mario has now.
00:42:19.100
And, you know, there were levels you could skip if you wanted to, but he does them all.
00:42:23.000
Yeah, it actually sounds like a really enticing book that I would have loved.
00:42:28.280
When he's actually on topic, it's pretty decent.
00:42:33.780
You're not going to see Mario in a whole new light.
00:42:35.920
It's not like the game theorists, whose channel I love.
00:42:42.280
He has a good grasp of what made the game so special.
00:42:45.320
You know, what makes it a great game, even to this day.
00:42:48.520
As is always the case, when Bob's actually doing what Bob should be doing, he's pretty good.
00:42:52.840
But then he starts in on, like, before each level, he decides to read a passage from his Hello Kitty diary.
00:43:01.560
And literally, he's, like, having personal journals about what's going on in his life as he's doing this playthrough.
00:43:11.420
And he goes completely off track, like, completely off topic.
00:43:15.160
He basically shoehorns his autobiography into this fucking thing.
00:43:18.380
Didn't he have, like, a huge section about moving out on his own the first time?
00:43:24.800
As he's playing the game, he's looking for an apartment.
00:43:29.560
His very first apartment, I might add, at the tender young age of 31.
00:43:42.160
And so I caught a bus to Hamilton, stayed at a friend's place the first night, then wandering about, you know, on my own with a backpack, found an apartment, and then I found a job the next day.
00:44:04.780
I get why a lot of people are fucking living at home still.
00:44:08.860
You know, I've always had a roommate of some kind.
00:44:14.220
Listen, I completely disagree with Aaron Clary on this.
00:44:21.420
All right, I spent my entire 20s paying for rent, and I have nothing to show for it.
00:44:24.600
You know, I, I mean, I get that, you know, there's the old joke that, you know, a boomer looks at his kid and says, you know, why won't your generation move out of the house?
00:44:37.800
And the kid looks at him and says, because your generation grenaded the economy and we can't find jobs.
00:44:45.360
I mean, obviously, the fact that a lot of my generation is fucking worthless and has no idea what the hell they're doing is part of that, too.
00:44:56.060
You're like, okay, fine, but don't, why, what does this fucking have to do with Mario?
00:45:03.780
None of it is, it's, everything that isn't about Mario in that book is, is either boring or sad.
00:45:14.060
You know what it is, he is the classic gamma male.
00:45:23.760
I know, I just did a video on this, I don't remember what I said exactly, but I know I linked to Vox's blog, and he's been talking about this.
00:45:30.940
How the, the gamma wants to pretend to be an alpha male, and so one of the ways they do this is they refuse to ever lose an argument.
00:45:44.360
And the way they never lose an argument is they never admit when they're wrong.
00:45:51.140
They constantly shift what their position is, they attack straw man, they, and this is what Bob is doing.
00:45:57.060
Like, you're asking, why is he defending Sarkeesian when she attacks such a meaningful game from, of his?
00:46:04.940
She's attacking the sexist attitude of people that play Mario, but not him.
00:46:14.600
I, I, it's like, this person's pissing on something I love, and I'm still like, yeah, they're awesome.
00:46:26.640
The guy is, he can never admit when he's wrong.
00:46:30.460
He was, listen, they asked him to apologize over the escapist, and he refused.
00:46:38.580
Yeah, I remember when, when he first, when he first had to apologize, and it was, he, he had that half-assed apology.
00:46:50.520
And it's, it's gonna be tough for him if he doesn't pull his head out of his ass.
00:46:58.780
Yeah, he's on Patreon, and he's getting, he's getting more money than he deserves from idiots.
00:47:04.280
But, you know, Patreon's getting pretty fucking crowded here lately, because SJW's got nowhere else to run to.
00:47:12.140
So, you know, he's not a woman, he's not even a fake woman like Brianna Wu, so he's not gonna be able to get that sweet white knight ducats.
00:47:21.140
He's gonna quickly find out that he's, he's really fucked himself.
00:47:24.140
I mean, at this point, the best he could hope for is Lindsay Ellis takes a man over her fucking sewer pipe of a sight.
00:47:32.140
Well, he can hope that he gets new opportunities, but here's, here's the thing, movie Bob, and it's, again, this is gamma male behavior, will never admit he's wrong.
00:47:43.380
He, he didn't get fired from the escapist, he left because of principles.
00:47:47.880
Like, I, I guarantee you, if you, if you approached him like you didn't know anything about the escapist, that would be his story.
00:47:54.980
Is that they were corrupt and gave in to moneyed interests, and so he had to leave.
00:48:08.800
Man, I think we both know that's fucking untrue.
00:48:12.100
Well, no, but he never admitted that he lost a fight.
00:48:15.360
I'm a nerd, and I kind of want to push him into a lacquer.
00:48:20.060
Yeah, he's the, he's the sort of nerd that makes you understand bullies and sympathize with them.
00:48:24.980
Yeah, he makes you take a look at yourself like, ooh, was I coming off like that?
00:48:31.680
Movie Bob is that, that, a mirror darkly, dark reflection of if we'd all gone down a different route.
00:48:40.240
Somebody on my Ask.FM said, like, you remind me of Movie Bob except for that you're not a socialist weasel and you don't have that godforsaken Boston accent.
00:48:50.240
And I was like, so I'm Movie Bob minus the terrible parts.
00:48:52.900
But then I started to think about it, and I'm like, you know, I look at Movie Bob and I'm like, man, there but by the grace of God go I.
00:49:05.940
And the thing is, he's going to, he's going to continue to offend his user base as time goes on.
00:49:11.640
Yeah, that's why I find his descent into madness so fascinating.
00:49:16.200
I mean, I've written three articles about him on Reaction.
00:49:19.740
Actually, I'm like, man, I've got to make sure I don't write anything.
00:49:22.500
I don't want to be the fucking resonant Movie Bob expert over Reaction.
00:49:30.620
I made an incorrect statement about Aristotle and Plato recently where I attributed the, I thought it was Plato that knew how many teeth women had just by his pure logic.
00:49:42.320
It was actually Aristotle who made that screw up.
00:49:44.060
And somebody corrected me on that, and I put a note on the video saying, you know what, folks, I screwed that part up.
00:49:52.400
Now, in the short term, that makes me look like an idiot.
00:49:57.100
When I've gone to all the work of making a video, and I screw up a basic fact in it, it makes me look like an idiot when I admit that in the video.
00:50:05.080
But over the long term, if I refuse to admit that I'm wrong, then people are going to start noticing.
00:50:15.980
And I'm not going to have any long-time subscribers.
00:50:19.980
People, one by one, are going to start, you know, unsubscribing for my channel.
00:50:25.080
And the only way I will maintain any income from that is by pursuing, like, new suckers.
00:50:32.440
Same thing, MovieBob, he asks, like, how much is he getting a month right now?
00:50:44.200
Too much, but it's, I mean, it's probably enough for him to live off of.
00:50:53.060
If the guy had any wherewithal, he'd move somewhere cheap, and he would live high off the hog.
00:51:02.780
You know, he knows what he's doing on making videos.
00:51:05.280
If he'd pull his head out of his ass, you know, stop swallowing the SJW poison, and stop being a dick to his audience,
00:51:13.260
he could probably be making four to five times what he's making.
00:51:22.040
Because right now, if he says something that pisses off his audience,
00:51:25.860
like, let's say I was making fun of Transformers earlier.
00:51:29.000
Now, by the way, I'm sure I probably have a couple of people that like Transformers.
00:51:37.960
But Bob would make that, he would make that statement while riding his high horse
00:51:42.440
and saying anybody that disagreed with him was a scumbag, libertarian, neo-Nazi skinhead.
00:52:02.800
And then two weeks later, he's going to do something.
00:52:05.080
Bit by bit, he's going to drive these people off because he cannot admit that he's wrong.
00:52:13.660
He doesn't, on Twitter at least, he doesn't hide behind the block button.
00:52:16.900
So that puts him at least a step higher than most of his peers.
00:52:25.080
The Gamma, like, he's too stupid to even know when he lost an argument.
00:52:32.420
Listen, if Bob went up to a UFC champion, some guy that's like 6'6", weighs 300 pounds, and
00:52:42.760
it's all muscle, and his, like, lip is twitching with droid rage, and if Bob went up to him
00:52:48.820
and started making fun of him for trying too hard, that's not because movie Bob is brave.
00:52:54.300
Well, he's got his Captain N game pistol next to him.
00:53:04.700
And even when he's, like, beaten with broken bones, laying on the cement, and everyone's saying,
00:53:17.400
No, he'll fucking keep getting up and getting his ass kicked,
00:53:35.840
And that's really the tragedy, is that he has quite a bit of potential.
00:53:58.180
He talks about in the book how he was going to the gym a lot,
00:54:11.240
No, I don't even think he was going to that gym.
00:54:12.980
I don't even think the guy's played Wii Fit Sports or anything.
00:54:27.160
I can't believe that we are letting these people influence our society.
00:54:31.260
I mean, like, these social justice warriors, they are...
00:54:47.580
There's one thing Clary said in the interview that...
00:54:52.440
Jordan's a little bit iffy about including this,
00:54:56.740
Where Clary points out that, like, all these people are crazy,
00:55:00.340
they're all in therapy, they're all on drugs and whatnot,
00:55:03.040
and Jordan's saying, well, we don't want to hurt people's feelings that are in therapy.
00:55:21.700
You still made it all the way to the top of Angel's Landing.
00:55:25.220
And how many people have died on that slope in the past 10 years?
00:55:29.780
Yeah, and I'm also doing something about it, too.
00:55:43.240
You know, we're all trying to improve ourselves.
00:55:48.000
The thing is that you and me and the rest of the game,
00:55:50.500
we're not making constant excuses for ourselves.
00:55:59.020
Yeah, and we're not walking around acting like we're...
00:56:01.560
We're not walking around acting like we are perfect.
00:56:05.760
We don't pretend that our failures are stigmata.
00:56:09.680
These people that will call you disgusting, you know, what was it, Sarah Butts or something
00:56:18.240
You know, it's like, she'll call you a disgusting misogynist troll and she'll, you know, she'll
00:56:23.940
take the dog dick out of her mouth just long enough to do it.
00:56:26.600
You talk to these social justice warriors and they'll call you all these names when they're,
00:56:36.480
you know, Moot will be like, oh, you're just a, you're just an evil, scummy loser.
00:56:43.180
Meanwhile, he's like, but you know, cuckolding is the thinking man's fetish.
00:56:49.560
I, from what I understand, I mean, I've seen screenshots, I guess they could be faked,
00:56:59.800
Moot, the founder of 4chan, is apparently on record saying that cuckolding is the thinking
00:57:11.780
I believe it was on some sort of a talk about cuckolding.
00:57:18.180
I don't particularly frequent cuckold boards, but.
00:57:34.560
My one friend Cameron said, you know, I think he's right.
00:57:36.820
Because whereas most fetishes are active, cuckolding gives you a lot of time to think.
00:57:42.100
Primarily about what the fuck happened to my life.
00:57:46.840
That, that statement of his actually makes a lot of sense, but not in the way he hopes
00:58:00.980
About how we either have guys with really big brains or really big genitals, but there's
00:58:08.160
You know, the, the real man is a combination of the, the aspects of the intellect, the,
00:58:14.940
uh, the, the airy fairy pontificating mathematical fucking bullshit, but also the, the genitals,
00:58:24.360
the, the, the stomach, the, the fire of life, the animal urges, and the chest is where
00:58:36.460
Like, like true, like not, not the base virility of rutting like an animal, but like the, uh,
00:58:41.120
of choosing a woman and, and making her your wife, this is all stuff in the chest.
00:58:49.520
If you've got no genitals and no chest, then cuckolding might be for you.
00:58:54.300
But yeah, these people, how depressing is it that?
00:59:02.420
Do you think we need to explain to our audience what cuckold porn is?
00:59:12.360
Welcome, welcome to the fountable year of our lord, 2015.
00:59:20.040
You know, somebody needs to buy him a pair of horns.
00:59:23.400
Now maybe, maybe 10% of my, of the audience knows what that is.
00:59:30.720
But it's like, that's the other thing about them.
00:59:33.460
Like these people, these fucking Tumblr, it's the, like take the fucking, the, the worst
00:59:38.260
porn you've ever jerked off to, that thing that you're ashamed of.
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Like, man, I can't believe I was so fucking horned up.
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We like, we, we've, we've all done foul things.
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Like, I, I watched a fucking donkey show jerk off.
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I actually had this guy on Twitter, uh, criticizing me.
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I made the mistake of, of clicking the link to his Tumblr.
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And his Tumblr was nothing but pictures of his own asshole.
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I, I mean, like, I don't even think I need to get Freudian with it.
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And it wasn't a very attractive asshole either, you know, it's, uh, like it was a, it was,
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it was like a four out of 10 when it comes to assholes.
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Like, you're, you are criticizing, you're calling me a terrible person.
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And you wrote a website where you post pictures of your own asshole.
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It is like, I scroll through a few, like, I, I mean, I've, in for a dime, in for a dollar,
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I've got, I've got the straight porn and the other porn folder.
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Um, no, it's like, I'm already, you know, you can't, I can't unsee this.
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I scrolled down and it's straight porn and the, I'm sorry, Jesus.
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It's not even like pictures of his dick or anything or pictures of him.
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It just pictures of his asshole from various zoom angles and, you know, now that I think
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about it, I can't imagine that's an easy angle to get.
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I, I guess if there's any artistic merit in it.
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I mean, you know, like, and this is what you were just saying, like, like, take the
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most degenerate, um, gangbang, whatever, porn, like, take the worst porn you've watched.
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Like, there's at least a challenge in filming this and, uh, that, this guy just takes pictures
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of his own asshole with a cell phone problem, like a fucking iPhone.
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Well, I mean, like I said, there's got to be some skill involved.
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I'm like, that, that cannot be a very easy angle to get.
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I mean, unless you got like a timer delay on the camera or something.
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Well, these days he could probably put it in a fucking museum.
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If you've been watching Sargon's recent videos analyzing, uh, feminist products, then there
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He's one of those guys I'm really glad I discovered after Gamergate.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm ashamed to even be talking about this stuff, but it's, it's, it's there.
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These people have, what I said about the gore novels and all, someone has to philosophize
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You know, it's not just, well, you know, I, I'm, I'm a guy who likes to be a sadist in
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bed or, or I'm a chick who likes a, a dude who's really, really fucking rough in bed.
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You have to make this your, you know, it's not just what you do in bed, but your lifestyle.
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I, I didn't go out looking for a guy that took pictures of his own asshole.
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But then he does this, and he gets a Twitter account connected to his site, and then he
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starts bothering me about political and philosophical opinions while linking to it.
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It's, it's, it's, like, this guy does not even have the dignity of having a separate
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Twitter account for his political opinions and for his pictures of his own asshole.
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I do not care if J. Edgar Hoover, dressed in women's clothing or not, that is, dude, everybody's
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But J. Edgar Hoover had the dignity not to do that while in office.
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Who was the Roman senator that married a goat or something?
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It's, like, J. Edgar Hoover didn't write long diatribes in his journal about, you know,
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like I said, philosophizing why he wears women's clothes.
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Like, these freaks on Tumblr that are into, like, the weirdest fucking shit, they have, like,
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they have to have some sort of political, philosophical reason why they're fucking behind it.
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Like, you know the guy who's all into cuckold porn is talking about how it stops white privilege
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And I actually wrote a post about that when I first discovered cuckold porn.
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About, like, the, about the, the contempt, the inherent contempt for the black bull.
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You know, like, there is so much, like, it is, racially based cuckold porn is racial
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It is the purest form of racial hatred that you can get upon this earth.
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I mean, like, Satan has better forms of racial hatred.
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But, outside of the realm of pure spirit, it's like a, it's, it dehumanizes everybody involved.
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And you know what, we, we really, we are, we are, we are at the time now.
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Again, the, the Roman emperor marrying his, was it, was it, was it Nero?
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Yeah, folks, I'm rough on that period of history.
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Where, our, listen, 80 years ago, people were having all sorts of degenerate orgies.
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You know, like, the flapper girls, the, I mean, Germany, post-war Germany was freaking crazy
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And it's like, they, they, yeah, okay, they don't have an orgy on Saturday night.
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But, you know, by Monday, they were back at work.
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Nowadays, we have, we have people that want to show up at work in furry costumes.
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There was a furry convention in my area one time, and I, and I, I knew about it because I saw it on the news.
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And they, like, I don't know, they couldn't have not known.
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But, they, they're reporting it on the news like it's just another comic con.
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Like, this is a con for people that like to dress as animals.
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Some parents could accidentally take, try to take their kids to that, all right?
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Yeah, you know when, um, teddy bears were first introduced?
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Uh, people objected to them because they say, they said it would warp
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Oh, man, I, I, I'm, I'm a fan of the old Sonic cartoon, like the, the one with Princess Sally.
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And, it's, it's, like, furries almost ruined that for me because I can't even talk about it
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to anybody like, hey, you should, this cartoon was actually really good.
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It's like, what, is Princess Sally your waifu, you fucking fur fag?
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Yep, I, I, I, good word, like, ten years ago, I saw, like, cartoon porn of various cartoon
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characters from when we were, and it's, at the time, I just, you know what, it's, these
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are, some of these cartoons of complex characters with real personality that, you know, you might
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have had a crush on when you were a kid. Yeah, and I, I just took it as that. So, now that
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we're adults and, you know, we're sexually aware, now here's Princess Sally naked. But,
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no, no, that's not, no, we need to go deeper than that. We, we need to get weirder than that.
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We, we now need to dress up in fur costumes to relive this fantasy life.
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What the hell do you want to bring a kid into this world?
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It's like, hey, best you could hope for is you get to be John Connor.
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You know, I, I'm, I'm looking forward to collapse. I just want to, uh, establish myself a bit better
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first. Once, once I've got the compound, once I've got the compound with a bunch of gardens
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and some, uh, large tanks of gasoline beneath the surface and some large tanks of water above
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surface. Isn't that what, uh, what, what Mike and Asenoff or whatever was doing?
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Well, except I'm going to be living there with my wife and my dogs. I'm not going to be living
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I know you had a beef with him a while back. I don't know what that was. Cause that was
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I never had a beef with him. I think he might have a beef with me. I'm not sure.
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I mean, I know, I, and I know Matt Forney did too, but Matt Forney's got a beef with everybody.
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So that's why I love the guy. He blocked me on Twitter. I discovered, and I asked him
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why on like ask FM. I'm like, you know, what's up with that? I got, I got no beef with you.
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And he was like, I don't remember, but you're on black now. I'm like, Oh, okay.
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I figured maybe it was cause I was friends with you and Matt or something.
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Do we want to do a third hour of this podcast and, um, and focus on the neo-reactionary movement?
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All right. I'm going to piss off a lot of people with this, but we'll, uh, yeah, let's, we'll
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stop talking about guys posting pictures to their own app. Well, actually we might not.
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Degeneracy is going to be the word of the day, but, um, I think we're pretty much done
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with the game of gate topic at this point. Wouldn't you agree?
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I, I, I've only got so much to say on it. And if I don't have anything to say, I want
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to shut my mouth. So I, I think we said a bunch of good stuff. And if we say anything
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All right. If you, if you want to hear about internet politics, folks, tune in for hour
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three. And remember, check out the Beckloss channel. Like I said, at least 50% of his videos