Podcast 4⧸26⧸2015 Leftist Infiltration of the Right with Matt Forney
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Summary
On this episode of The Daily Show with John Avlonelves, John and Matt discuss a variety of topics including the Amren Conference, the "Two-faced" media, and snarking on other people.
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I'd like to start this whole thing off just by saying the principle...
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You know, most leftists are Democrats or communists.
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This is actually one thing that has frustrated a lot of genuine people in the Libertarian Party
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Guys like Christopher Cantwell with the Free State New Hampshire Project.
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And yeah, I disagree with the guy on a few things, but he's doing God's work out there.
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There's a lot of people that basically join those movements because they can't compete in the Democrat Party.
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And it was basically just them talking smack about you and myself.
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And particularly, they're bringing up the Amren conference.
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I mean, aside from a few niggles here and there, I don't want to rehash drama.
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I smoked Cuban cigars for the first time with my friend William Rome as well as Scott Terry.
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I managed to become best buddies with Matthew Heimbeck, who was a major white nationalist activist.
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Despite our differences and despite the differences I've had with other people, we all got along just great.
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The only guys I didn't get along with, well, that's the thing.
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I met both Bulbasaur and Michael Enoch at the conference.
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And Enoch told me straight up that he didn't want to rehash internet drama.
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It was like, you know, it was in the past, in the past.
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And then as soon as they got home, they decided to trash me on their podcast.
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Which, I don't mind being made fun of being a drunk asshole, but it's the two-faced sort of, you know, mentality that annoys me.
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Be polite to you in person, and then go and talk smack about you behind your back.
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Folks, you, like, drama, gossip, it's always tempting at first to listen to.
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But if, Matt, if you and me started doing gossip all the time, all of our subscribers would stop subscribing.
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So we're not really going to go into the gossip and the drama.
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But the point of this is, is that this whole article, it wasn't discussing your ideas.
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It wasn't attacking arguments you've made so much as attacking the person making them.
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They're basically, their time wrong was basically, I'm overweight, and I made an ass of myself all drunk.
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There is no substantive criticism of my ideas, or what I advocate.
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Well, you know what, snark perfectly describes this.
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There's, actually somebody mentioned this thing to me before you did.
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And, and he compared it, I don't want to name names because, you know, he's a private person.
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You know, anytime, anytime Jon Stewart is talking on his, his pontiff, his podium, you know, back when he was doing the Daily Show, he's the news that everyone believes.
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But as soon as he gets called on a factual inaccuracy, he says, oh, I'm just an entertainer.
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And it's, oh, it's, it's appropriate that they name their podcast, the Daily Show, after the Daily Show.
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Well, and it's, again, you know, because everything is sarcastic with these people, everything is this, this sardony, this, this irony, that they, you can never attack them directly.
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You can, if they say something stupid, they say, oh, yeah, man, I'm just being sarcastic.
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You know, because there's nothing there to, there's no idea, there's no core concept.
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I vaguely recall a quote from, I think, Ryan Holiday about this, or someone related to him, I don't, I can't remember exactly.
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Snark is basically, it goes something like this, snark is basically what happens when, when you have, it's something you can't respond to, because there's no substance there.
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Yeah, it's, um, you know what, it's, honest to God, back in, like, grade eight, some kids were making fun of me,
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because I watched Ninja Turtles, and they were watching that god-awful show about, about, um, Ice, no, not Ice-T, who is that white rapper?
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Yeah, that, that show about Vanilla Ice where he had talking magic shoes.
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I don't know what you're talking about, frankly, I'm kind of glad.
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It was, I actually looked it up again on YouTube, it is atrocious.
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Uh, how did, say what you will about Ninja Turtles, it was, it was a creative show, and the people making it had a great time doing it.
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Um, it was a solid piece of, of whatever, childhood shows, versus talking magic shoes of the splash-in-the-pan rapper.
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You know, you can't argue with that, it's just the sneer.
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It's whatever you're doing, I'll sneer at it, I'll have sardony, and I'll insult it.
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It's not what you're doing, it's just who you are.
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And, and you know what, honestly, the Daily Showa, are you frickin' kidding me?
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Naming your frickin' podcast after the Holocaust?
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Well, they have a, it's not just that, it's just that it's so unoriginal.
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I mean, apparently they also have a segment on another podcast called Chateau Autiste.
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And just for the record, because we're probably going to get a few people that love that show,
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I'm going to quote something from Vox Day that, I think it sums up both our positions very nicely.
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I assert that an unborn female black child with a missing chromosome and an inclination to homosexuality
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is equal in human value and human dignity and unalienable, God-given rights to a straight white male
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in the prime of its life with a plus-4 standard deviation IQ.
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but they're equally valuable because they're human beings.
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And, um, naming your show after an attempted genocide.
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Oh, what side of the political spectrum are they on?
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And, you know, this, this is a, here, I was taking notes while listening to their very long podcast.
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See, this is one of the things, this is one of the things you can notice about leftists.
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This is how you can detect them, because it's not what they're saying.
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For instance, um, a Democrat will quote Martin Luther King Jr., you know, judge a man by the
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content of his character, not the color of his skin, which is a, it's a good concept.
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I'd say that's a fairly honest, genuine, right-wing concept.
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They will say that thing, but they won't ever mean it.
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And so, one of the things to look for is scatological, shocking language.
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You know, there's, uh, the piss Christ, that piece of artwork where a guy urinated on a crucifix,
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And now, right now, the political left, um, is in love with multiculturalism, with, um,
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on the one hand, pretending race is just a social construct, while at the same time saying
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race is so absolutely real that we need to turn Thor into a woman, and we need to turn
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Um, but the, the reverse, and these guys are, they're, they make so many racial slurs.
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Uh, for instance, they attack, uh, your fellow writer at Return of Kings, Blair Naso.
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This, like, listen, when Team America World Police came out, I'm pretty sure most of us
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at some point referred to Arabs in the Middle East as durka durkas, because it's bloody funny.
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But these guys are doing it every frickin' minute.
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And it's not because they're referencing a movie we just saw.
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Look at me standing up against, look at me, I'm so out there.
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Actually, uh, to some of my related, uh, well, uh, me and my friends, we were sort of ribbing
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Blair for being, looking like he wasn't white entire week, because he's a very odd complexion.
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Uh, like, but I was hanging out with, uh, guys like, uh, Matthew Heimbach and Matt Parrott
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of the Traditionalist Youth Network, which is a white nationalist advocacy group.
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They were ribbing on him as well, but they never called him any racial slurs.
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Whereas there's, um, again, there's this, this need amongst the leftists.
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And, of course, we're both talking about, um, Michael Trust's work, Anonymous Conservative.
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It's, um, it's, um, it's all about the, the liberal, the, the, the leftist feels like they
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And so, what they do is they defect to the other side.
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You know, this is why you constantly see the, the, the leftists supporting whatever, whoever
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You know, it's the, their methodology is to get the, the K-type, the competitive people
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to fight one another while they hide in the background and don't take part.
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And they have this constant need, because they feel so inferior on the inside, they have
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this constant need to show that they're superior to other people.
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You know, and it's, so right now, the liberals are doing it by saying, look at how racist those
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And they have a completely incoherent definition of racism, so whatever you do, it's racist.
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Look at how stupid these jungle bunnies are, and these, uh, these gooks, and these torch
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Yes, it's, it's basically a cover-up for their own inferiority.
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It's like, I'm not, we're gonna, we're gonna take the high road, and we're not going to
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But, you know, me, having met Bulbasaur and Enoch in person, I see they have a lot to
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Again, I don't want to, you know, take the low road, we're talking, we're talking about
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the deeper issues here, but, you know, I haven't met them in person, I can see why they would
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But, you know what, there's some people that are just born that they're super good-looking,
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and they don't have to work out that much to stay in shape.
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And they're naturally extroverted, a naturally very happy person, um, you know, like they're
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the yellow lab of personality, and those guys, you never see those guys hating anybody.
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I mean, it's always, it's, it's, it, yeah, people like that have a sort of sense of, what's
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the word, gentlemanliness, or gentility, uh, you never see them hating.
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The other 90% of us, if we look for it, we have plenty that we can make excuses about,
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that we can blame our, it's like, oh, well, I never had a chance because of, and then we
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can be bitter, and we can be jealous, and we can be snarky, and we can deride anybody
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You know, another term that I caught them using, which is just, this is perfect, is they,
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I think they were talking about Roosh, but, uh.
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That's a, that, that, that's a popular leftist, uh, you know, trigger phrase.
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Uh, leftists will never, ever, and I've experienced this being the target of so many hate programs
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Leftists will never directly say they want to kill you.
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Both because, A, it's illegal, and B, they don't have the stone to do it.
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Um, not only is that technically a form of bullying, I mean, I hate to use that term,
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but given that the left agitates against bullying, it's very ironic that they're doing, they're
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It's, it's another one of those tell, tell phrases that you get from the left.
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And, uh, what else, oh, you know what, and, again, when they, they put down others all
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Now, this might seem ironic, given that, right now, we are putting them down.
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But, honestly, we tend to, I, I think most of our writing is constructive.
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Or, if we're, we're attacking somebody, it's, we're, we're attacking somebody who's said
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something blatantly false, and we're angry about the falsehood that they uttered.
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And, sometimes, yes, sometimes this does go into personal attack territory.
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Like, for instance, the fact that you, you don't see that many attractive feminists.
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But, generally, we, you know, we try and maintain it at the level of professionalism, of intellectual
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Yeah, we, we don't go on a podcast and start going, fuck nigger, cocksucker, cunt bunny,
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We, we don't insult other people's appearances most of the time.
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I don't know if you listened to the whole thing, because it was quite tedious.
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And, I'll just say, it's very ironic that Enoch is insulting anyone's looks, given what
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Again, they don't want to go that route, but, again, he's the one who fired the first shot.
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Well, and they were insulting Jared Taylor, as well.
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They said, um, first they said, I thought he was a man-led, and he was taller than I
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thought, but did you notice that his chest was too big for his legs?
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Just all this petty, what sort of man whines about somebody's suit not fitting right?
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Yeah, I mean, you can criticize Jared Taylor for a lot of things.
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I mean, Lee Bar-Hangio had some fair criticisms of Taylor, but that is a completely insubstantial
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Insulting a guy for the way his body is shaped.
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Well, right before this, right before they started insulting him, they brought up the fact
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that he brought a black woman with him to the conference, or something like that.
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Apparently she was Taylor's guest, maybe, according to them.
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And I think that then, because, oh my god, he's associating with the enemy, we're going
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To clarify, I don't think she was a guest of Taylor's.
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All he did was that during the opening remarks on Friday evening, he mentioned that this woman
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would be in attendance, and that she was on board with the ideals being espoused by Amber.
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So, he was just telling everyone that, you know, she's on our side, you know, treat her
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I don't know if he was a personal guest of hers, I mean, if she was a personal guest
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of his, he was just pointing that out, because it would be very, it is unusual for a black
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woman to attend a white nationalist conference, obviously.
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And my view is, she was a nice lady, and she was actually quite cute, but, what, what,
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But, you know, this is, you know, this is why I have so little tolerance for white people.
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And I don't want to paint all of them with the same brush.
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I mean, like, for somebody like Jared Taylor, I'm sure I disagree with him on stuff, but
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But there's this element, and maybe, I don't know how big it is.
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You know, like, what part, what percentage of MGTOWs are actually these whiny losers that
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just want to identify with some groups that are too afraid to approach a woman?
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We, I can tell you what percentage of YouTube comments are made up of those guys, but I can't
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tell you in real life how many of them are doing that.
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I'd say that the ones who turned out to Amron, everyone I met there was, I didn't like everyone,
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I met some cool people there, so it's like, they disagree with them, but it's like, I don't
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think it's, I don't think the, I mean, I put this in my, I brought up an article for
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It's not published as of this recording, but it probably will be up by the time this podcast
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I said, basically, judging white nationalists based on the retards commenting at the right
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stuff or other blogs is like judging the mainstream based on the retards who are commenting at Return
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of Kings and can't go three syllables without saying hypergamy or all the women are whores
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Those people never make it out to the conferences.
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So you get a very high class type of individual coming to Amron or other conferences like it.
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They may have out of the mainstream beliefs, but they're regular guys in college, you can
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break friends with, get drunk with, have fun with.
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At the end of the day, they're not hateful people.
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I mean, American Renaissance is about, you know, like whites.
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There is actual value in real diversity, which means diverse cultures, diverse peoples.
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I mean, the KKK are a left-wing reactionary force.
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When I met, um, when I met Paul Elam at the, well, where was it?
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It was in, um, whatever, it was last September.
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Yeah, I had my guard up at first, but I was civil with him.
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If he said something I didn't like, I would have said, well, I disagree for these reasons.
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I wouldn't have gone home and written a blog post about, oh my god, he looks so fat.
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If I had anything to say to him, I'd say it to his face.
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But these rabbits, they need to gang up and outnumber somebody.
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And so while they're sitting at home, you know, after meeting you, when they're back in their hotel room, you know, and it's all in the past, then you see the violence come out.
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It's like, and I said every, to expand on the whole sort of case, like the, the, uh, minority thing, uh, the other major minorities I met there were a pair of Puerto Rican nationalists.
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And again, they were just as accepted as everyone else.
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And I spent some time hanging out with them in my hotel room afterwards.
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It's like, um, it was, uh, as I joked in the ROK column, there was more diversity at the AMRAD conference than there were among the anti-racist protesters
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Because, I mean, ultimately this whole multiculturalism thing is, uh, it's not about merely white hatred.
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You know, it's forcing everybody to homogenize, to conform, to become a useful cog in the corporate machine.
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You know, it's this, it's, it's run by people, it's run by our types, who are terrified because they can't compete at the end.
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And so they want to force everybody to be the same.
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Uh, actually, there's a, there's a perfect anecdote I can recall here.
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Uh, a few years ago, before he died, uh, Lawrence Oster of View from the Right had, uh, a bit of commentary on John Lennon's song, Imagine,
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which everyone seems to, you know, seems to think is some kind of anthem of love for the human race.
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Oster made the point that, Imagine is actually an anthem of hatred.
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Because Lennon is heaping hatred on the world as, in that song, he's heaping hatred on the world as it exists.
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He's heaping hatred on the things that make humanity unique.
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They hate, they hate the, the natural, or should I say, ideal state of humanity in a case-selected sort of competitive environment.
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So they are trying to undermine that in their own rabbity way.
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And now, in the cases of leftists that are ostensibly on the right, you know, again, they will repeat all the same phrases.
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In fact, earlier in their podcast, they talked about making fun of people just to make yourself feel better.
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They were looking down upon liberals for doing that.
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And then they did that throughout the whole bloody thing.
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These are guys, they aren't on the right because they're conservative.
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When you're a young man, being humble and conservative, that speaks very highly of you.
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You know, like when I was in the military, I had all of these friends that were saying,
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I want to join the military, it's just Bush's war, or whatever.
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You know, all of this left-wing rhetoric, I'm smarter than the establishment.
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And even at the time, I was much better read than any of these people.
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But when I was 21, I was well aware of the fact that I don't actually know that much about how the world works.
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And so maybe I should shut up and listen to my elders.
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You know, that sort of conservatism is really good.
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But that's not what we see with the guys in the right stuff.
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And also, it's not what we see with a lot of these MGTOW guys, these neo-MGTOW guys.
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What it is, is this is, they are conservatives because the mainstream is liberal.
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You know, just like the hippies rebelled against the establishment by what?
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These guys are rebelling against the leftist standard.
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It's a pointless, mindless rebellion with no deeper cause behind it.
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I can say for a fact right now, Bulbasaur or Enoch had been born in the 40s and grew up in the 60s.
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They have no inner core of conservatism, no inner core of philosophy, the right stuff guys.
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They just want to transgress for the sake of transgressing.
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For that little immature thrill of pissing off the normal people.
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Yeah, yeah, not actually standing up for something.
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Not actually, like, marching, like the million man march, you know?
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They want to have the perfectly non-violent, like, they're just doing it on the internet.
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Yeah, and there's actually one of the guys, I can't remember his name, but I used to chat with him.
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And he was actually telling me at one point that he was getting really interested in Marxism.
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And then, before he turned 19, he was thinking about being a Marxist.
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No, you're looking for an identity because you don't have one already.
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I mean, I forget his handle, but I remember seeing someone on the Twitter commenting that his description says,
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Former neo-reactionary, now a Marxist or something.
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Not sure if we should give him attention anyway, but basically it was like, what the hell?
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If you flip from neo-reactionary to Marxist, it's pretty obvious that you're just searching for an ideological peer to tell your vote to.
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I have respect for people that just get so sick of the system they go anarcho-cap.
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Because they like Ayn Rand, and they like free market economics, and they've read, you know.
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They're just so sick of the system that they say, I'm a Randroid, or I'm Libertarian, or I'm...
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Like, they're still on the right side, because they've thought about it.
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You know, they have opinions, they're just sick of the game.
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You know, that's not what we're attacking here, and everybody changes their minds.
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We're talking about the people that are just...
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They don't even know what the ideology is all about.
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They're just grabbing it, because internal metrics.
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Yeah, I was actually talking with a couple of Mexicans the other night at the bar, and they were so liberal.
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They thought conservatives were completely evil.
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It's just that, obviously, the Democrats pander to certain ethnic groups, certain economic classes.
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You're going to find a lot of working-class blue-collar guys on the East Coast that vote Democrat, for instance.
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Because, listen, the other two, you and me are public assholes, okay?
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So, they brought up the whole Renegade thing from a couple years ago.
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Which, for those of you that don't know, and we're not going to go into too much drama,
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Because the other few days back, a couple weeks back, I said something incorrect.
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Who was divorcing her husband on not a no-fault divorce.
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It was divorce on grounds that probably would have carried through in 1850.
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I mean, like, looking back on it, I kind of wish I hadn't even gotten involved in it.
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And, you know, now I tend to have more of a Catholic ethos about things.
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So, if I was in the same situation, I'd say, you know what?
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But, you know, under any system, even the Catholic Church recognizes annulments in some conditions.
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So, I think that standards of 1850 are fairly reasonable, you know?
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It's like 85% of divorces are driven by women, but there's that other 15%.
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Because the husband didn't earn what was coming to him.
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Everybody that knows both parties seems to agree with me.
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They're all friends with the husband, so they completely agree with him.
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But, ironically, did you catch what they said about asymmetrical warfare?
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Well, they also said that he can go kill himself, along with Roosh.
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I mean, I don't know the guy very well, but my view did, so he seems like the nicest guy ever.
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And, apparently, the husband, and this is two years later, is still ranting and raving about me.
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And so, asymmetrical warfare told him to calm down, that you're not a sinless human being either.
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And so, they described this as him white-knighting for me.
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Asymmetrical warfare is white-knighting by pointing out that women have agency, and you can't force a woman to cheat on her husband.
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They didn't say sticking up, they said white-knighting.
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Casanova was actually a total left-wing scumbag.
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Like, he was basically like most pimps nowadays.
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Not really somebody you want to base your life off of.
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You can analyze him to see which techniques work, but you don't want to become him.
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So, maybe somebody like that, who runs a brothel.
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Somebody who's an amazing manipulator could target a married woman and spend months undermining
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her to, you know, to convince her to cheat on her husband, which she immediately regrets
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In this little feud, because when it happened, I stuck up for you.
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Oh, Mike, I didn't so much stick up for you, as I mocked the Right Stuff guys for obsessing
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And, apparently, they proved the impression I...
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The initial impression I had right, because, number one, they're still talking about it
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And, number two, like I said, when I met Enoch at, uh...
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Damn right, he specifically told me, he was like, it was internet bullshit, it's in the
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Again, they're more or less confirming the impression I had of them before that, so it's
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And these are the people who talk about the patriarch, patriarchy and being fathers of
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families and building a society, yet they act like little girls when it comes to these
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Well, they even put an entry on me, about me, on their lexicon of terms.
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Davis Arrini, degenerate scumbag, or something like that.
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Apparently, I am that important that I get an entry up there with Moldbug and Ebola.
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And you know what, again, this is another leftist trait.
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Now, I am friends with both Bernard Chapin and Paul Elam.
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And I don't know what Paul Elam thinks about Bernard Chapin, but I think we all know that
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I wouldn't say that you are as pissed off with Paul Elam as Bernard is, but...
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Are you offended that I am friends with Paul Elam?
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I disagree with the man, but I don't care, man.
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You've pulled my ass out of the fire many times.
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Honestly, listening to their podcast is a lot like listening to NPR radio.
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Is NPR used four-letter words every five seconds?
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Well, I might have told this story before, but I was driving through the Midwest, and this
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radio program came on that started with the Sinatra song, My Way.
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And I'm like, oh, this must be a good radio program.
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And then the announcer comes on and says how he never liked the line, in my way, regrets,
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I've had a few, but then again, too few to mention.
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He hates that line, because everybody has regrets.
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And then it turns into this art program where there are these three, they're halfway between
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short stories and radio dramas, basically on the level of If You Were a Dinosaur, My Love.
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There's one guy who his wife died and he left the church, and then he just broke, and he
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had to give his children to a foster home, and he's just broken the rest of his life.
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The other one's about this idiot that went to prison, and just complete failure.
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And sure enough, as soon as the program is over, you are listening to NPR.
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Another trait that you can tell, this is how you can tell you're listening to NPR without
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hearing the announcement, is that any time they talk about people, about prominent figures,
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about politicians, etc., on NPR, they will say, well, this man, this politician is doing
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this to impress his electorate, to say that he's strong against abortion, you know?
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It's all about what people think, what people perceive.
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And they were doing this throughout their podcast.
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Talking about the perceptions of things, the social manipulation of things, rather than the
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I mean, at the end of the day, we're dealing with a bunch of guys that said, they don't
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In light of that, this whole ArenaGate thing, the reason this upsets them so much...
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We know they have a very good reason we hate player-hating.
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But I would not be surprised if there's a story, if there's some other gate about another writer
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for Return of Kings or somebody else that reads Roosh and one of their wives.
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I mean, well, I also showed the pictures of these men and their wives to Roosh.
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I'm not going to post this publicly, obviously, because I'm not that kind of person.
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These two guys married women that I wouldn't approach.
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But I thought Approaching was just about spamming women until you find one drunk enough not
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No one who has ever actually approached a woman in a bar or anywhere else would say that.
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I can guarantee you these guys basically just got lucky and met a woman they knew for a
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They're not knocking, you know, if it works for you, by all means, if you're happy, fine,
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But they're the ones who are knocking everyone else for their choices in life.
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And you saw it happening far and far before I did.
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I just needed one drop of water and I had to go boom.
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And anybody with any experience with women gets that.
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For instance, when you approach a woman at a bar, she makes up her mind in the first three
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You have many opportunities to fail after that.
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You know, if you walk up to a woman wearing a clown suit, you've already failed.
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You need to dress in some sort of manner that's appropriate.
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Or, you know, even guys like Mystery can get laid, for good God's sake.
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You know, you don't trick a woman into sleeping with you.
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When a woman leaves you, she's already made the choice.
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She made the choice, like, three weeks before you break up.
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And she was busy lining up another man in the process.
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They do not have time to sit around moping and being romantic the way a guy would.
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As Mencken would point out, they are an eminently practical sex.
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I forget who said this in the manuscript, but it's like...
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It's men who are the romantic sex, and women who are realists.
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Getting a dog and a rifle and a horse, and then just going off into the prairies.
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A house in the suburbs that's near a good school and on the bus lines,
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and it has a Walmart a practical distance away that isn't too close to the ghetto.
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I think in about 40 minutes, we just tore up pretty much everything that they...
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I mean, I thought we'd have more to say, because they went on for two bloody hours.
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That's just a little more evidence of the fact that they're sloppy thinkers.
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You know, I believe it was Orwell who stated that muddled prose is indicative of muddled thinking.
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And in the particular case, if you're the kind of person who spends two hours saying what you could just as easily say in three minutes,
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it's evidence that you have a very undisciplined and uneducated mind.
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And, you know, I'm just going to go over the bullet points I wrote quickly,
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because there's a couple of things we didn't cover.
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Number one, putting down others to feel superior about yourself.
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Now, this isn't putting down others for doing something evil or wicked or for...
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Like, for instance, social shaming used to have a really good role.
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That somebody did something terrible, we put them in the pillory.
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But nowadays, with the internet shaming, it's mob tactics.
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Everybody gets to feel superior about themselves for shaming this person,
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even though half of them are doing the exact same thing.
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So with leftist shaming, they tend to go after things that, you know,
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you can't help about yourself or that everybody's done.
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And so in this, like, there's the obvious racism that they keep bringing up.
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I mean, for me to use the term racist, you know it's pretty bad.
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I mean, Bulbasaur looks like his mother tried to afford him and they had to stick him in an incubator.
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And Enoch looks like someone shaved a black bear and put him in a suit.
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Okay, I'm not knocking their looks, but they're knocking everyone else, you know.
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They aren't exactly, you know, like you said, they're not supermodels.
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So why are you making fun of other people's appearance?
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And the good look, Jared Taylor, he's pretty good looking, you know, I'm not an expert, but...
00:42:47.080
They were just giggling when they're going on about you and Blair Naso being drunk.
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And, you know, Blair Naso did make a bit of an ass of himself.
00:42:56.960
Well, another thing I have to mention, at the end, the incident that Blair Naso got into at the Hockey Talk bar, they weren't there.
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And they're still gossiping about second hand information.
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If you haven't ever gotten drunk and made an ass of yourself, you're not a man.
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You know, men are supposed to sin by commission.
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We're supposed to do stupid stuff that we regret and then learn from it.
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If you've never gotten drunk and done something embarrassing and stupid that you have to apologize for, and, like a man, Blair Naso did apologize.
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And, again, the worst thing I said while drunk that they witnessed was, I think I...
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I said something to a girl, like, wow, you're pretty.
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The worst part of things I got into a hammer when I was drunk, they weren't around.
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And I've done far worse drunk shit in the past.
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I mean, who are these little choir boys that have never made an ass of themselves while drunk?
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You know, I know good choir boys, and they've made asses of themselves while drunk.
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You're not being a good person, you're being a pussy.
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Oh, and there's two ways that leftists will laugh.
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They have the scared laugh, the I'm smarter than you laugh, the quiet laugh, but then
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And all the laughter in this podcast was braying.
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So, again, and this kind of goes back to the drunkenness.
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I mean, we've all seen one of our friends being drunk, or one of our girlfriends.
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We've all dated a girl, and she got drunk and acted like an ass.
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And we might tell her the next day, it's like, you were so-and-so last night.
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You know, we've all been in embarrassing situations.
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We don't enjoy seeing people miring in their own filth.
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We might point it out and say, you're an idiot.
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Like, the feminists go out of their way to find stuff that's offensive to them.
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They're wallowing in how offensive you behaved when you were drunk.
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If they can't find anything, objectionable about you at first glance, they'll nitpick
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Like, every time a feminist or a leftist gets upset in one of my articles, they'll point
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out, like, a spelling or typo error, and it's like, oh, you used the wrong form of that.
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It's completely irrelevant to the point that I'm making.
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Again, these people must be really righteous human beings.
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They must be up there with Christ to be so aware of everybody else's flaws, eh?
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If Christ, yeah, they're Christ, you know, Christ dropped racial slurs every five seconds.
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You know, I was reading a great post the other day about Christ and the SJW.
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It might have been John C. Wright, but I don't think it was.
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He was pointing out there's a social justice warrior, there's a leftist in the Bible.
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And, uh, take a wild guess which apostle it was.
00:47:02.900
So, Jesus shows up at this lady's house, and the one of them is just, like, nattering,
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nattering, nattering, and the other is just so honored to actually meet Jesus that she
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gets some of these, um, scented oils and washes his feet with them.
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And Judas says, couldn't you sell that oil and give the money to the homeless?
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She's doing this out of the kindness of her heart.
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That's, uh, that's a quote from the New English Testament.
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But, yeah, like, who are these people that are so righteous that they are just criticizing
00:47:50.820
I think Jesus specifically warned about these people, and Matthew, uh, forget the specific
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chapter in verse, but they, you know, beware the hypocrites.
00:47:58.100
Beware the, uh, beware, beware people like these, you know, who, uh, pick at everyone
00:48:04.180
else's sins and make a big public show of being immoral and whatnot.
00:48:09.780
Yeah, like, listen, we both discuss virtue because it's an ideal that we're trying to
00:48:26.140
I was going to say, you wrote about this in Kill Your Man of Spear Idols.
00:48:32.640
You should, you should, you, you, you, I forgot the specific point I made in that article.
00:48:38.540
But like, basically you have to, you have to, you have to, you have to work to strive
00:48:43.960
towards these things and, and acknowledge your faults.
00:48:46.400
You can't simply sit on high and snub everyone who you think is inferior to you because that's
00:48:52.620
It's not a way to, it's not, you know, fat, drunk, and sanctimonious is no way to go
00:48:57.820
And if you raise up, if there's anybody that you try and raise up as some sort of perfect
00:49:04.440
virtual person, you try to turn C.S. Lewis into a bloody, magical person, you're going
00:49:10.080
to be disappointed in him if you actually find out what actually happened in his life.
00:49:19.420
Most of the saints were complete degenerates when they were young.
00:49:22.820
And it's, getting better is, it's sort of like being an alcoholic, where it's, you're
00:49:33.740
You know, and listen, I'm not talking about the namby-pamby, you know, he drinks too much.
00:49:36.740
I'm not talking about high-functioning alcoholics, okay?
00:49:39.120
I'm talking about the guys, and I've had friends like this.
00:49:42.560
Um, you know that stage of drunkenness where, for me it happens right about 18 ounces of whiskey.
00:49:56.120
And for about ten minutes I'm completely out of control.
00:49:59.880
Where it's like, you don't remember anything, you just need to drink more, and you act like
00:50:06.540
Some people get to that stage after one or two drinks.
00:50:11.200
And those people just can't drink, because it comes on unexpectedly.
00:50:14.560
And the next thing they know, they're in the drunk tank, or they're in a field somewhere,
00:50:17.900
they missed their bus, they lost their wallet, etc.
00:50:34.120
So, you know, being a good person doesn't mean that you are no longer an asshole.
00:50:42.380
Yo, you're still an asshole, you're just trying not to be.
00:50:56.520
Because I think we, I think we beat the hell out of this dead horse.
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And now it's time to send it to the glue factory.
00:51:09.020
Just, folks, read between the lines with people, because it's, this is really what's killing
00:51:17.620
You know, I don't usually like naming names, but these guys with the right stuff are just
00:51:21.880
being, they're degenerate leftist scum, who are wearing the outfit of neo-reactionary
00:51:28.580
whatever, and they're killing the entire movement.
00:51:32.540
You know, the whole Trannygate thing about Justine Tunney, say what you will about her,
00:51:38.400
she's a great writer and she doesn't claim to be a neo-reactionary, and they had a huge
00:51:42.300
tizzy over whether or not you're allowed to be friends with somebody that's a transsexual.
00:51:46.320
Well, I guess these people are not interested in making the world a better place.
00:51:55.580
So, I guess that's it, is look out, look out for the posturing scumbags in the neo-reactionary,
00:52:03.740
in the Manosphere, in MGTOW, in the Libertarian Party, the anarcho-capitalists that are basically