Leo D.M.J. Aurini - Podcast Talking MGTOW with Zerse

00:00:00.000 The truth is often stupid. 1.00

00:00:22.800 Trust the fuckhead. 1.00

00:00:52.800 All on proprietary video codecs and audio issues, and particularly Macintosh. 1.00

00:01:00.860 Screw Macintosh, terrible, bloody software company. 0.75

00:01:05.380 Like, the only thing that's, like, if it weren't for Macintosh, PC, Microsoft wouldn't be good. 0.99

00:01:15.880 Anyway, I've got Xurs here with me tonight, and this is going to be the complaining hour. 1.00

00:01:22.740 Welcome to the free-floating hostility hour. How are you doing, Xurs? 1.00

00:01:27.520 I'm doing pretty well, actually. A little contradictory.

00:01:31.820 To be honest, I'm alright.

00:01:35.060 It's just, there are some things that certainly mess with me, mess with you, so we can chat about that.

00:01:41.720 We just spent about 40 minutes trying to record this bloody call.

00:01:45.880 Yeah, we actually have, actually.

00:01:49.660 That is not even interesting.

00:01:53.520 That is true.

00:01:54.880 Yeah, I finally had to update MP3 Skype recorder.

00:01:59.460 It's this endless series of updates on software, removing features, you know, adding advertisements,

00:02:06.020 and just being incompatible and contradictory. 0.99

00:02:09.980 You know, maybe I'm just an idiot. 0.96

00:02:15.000 Okay, like, that is a distinct possibility that I will concede exists. 0.96

00:02:20.140 But, you know, I used to run Red Hat Linux.

00:02:24.820 And I only quit because I don't have time for it.

00:02:27.240 I don't have time to try and teach Red Hat how to use Microsoft Word or, like, video editing software.

00:02:36.780 I don't have time for that.

00:02:38.300 You use Sony Vegas to edit videos, right?

00:02:42.520 Yeah, I'm not proud to admit that, but yeah.

00:02:47.140 It's a habit I got into.

00:02:48.820 I know all the shortcuts.

00:02:50.740 And it's honestly a very good program.

00:02:53.460 I mean, I know Adobe Premiere is a professional one, but Sony Vegas does everything I need to do.

00:02:59.860 You know, like, maybe one day I'll graduate to Final Cut when I start doing 3D animations, but...

00:03:05.280 But yeah, trying to teach Linux to do that is...

00:03:11.880 I got to the point where I had to say, you know what, I'm not making any money being a Linux expert.

00:03:17.600 Maybe I should just use Windows.

00:03:22.740 And I don't know how...

00:03:23.940 And Macintosh up Windows on me.

00:03:26.860 Yeah, I honestly personally don't really like Macintosh computers too much.

00:03:30.500 And I don't know, it feels too complicated for no reason, in my opinion.

00:03:35.280 Well, it's like an airport.

00:03:38.240 It's very simple and very complicated.

00:03:40.780 Yeah.

00:03:42.680 I think, like, honestly, like, for some odd reason, I think...

00:03:45.540 I had this conversation with my friends the other day. 0.71

00:03:47.080 It's like, for mobile phones, Windows software is absolute garbage, right?

00:03:52.920 But Apple software for their phones is fantastic.

00:03:55.560 The iPhone works pretty well. 0.84

00:03:57.760 But when it comes to PC computers and laptops, everyone's like, Macintosh, this sucks.

00:04:03.900 It's complicated.

00:04:05.360 PC, simple.

00:04:06.480 So, I mean, that's, you know, strengths and weaknesses in different companies.

00:04:11.020 Macintosh is what my mom uses.

00:04:12.600 It's perfect for iPhones, because you're not...

00:04:17.380 A phone is not a computer.

00:04:20.320 Okay?

00:04:20.660 And I'm a BlackBerry man.

00:04:22.460 Just for the pure obstinacy of, I demand actually having a keyboard on my computing device.

00:04:29.300 But it's still not a computer.

00:04:31.580 I mean, it is, but you can't...

00:04:33.940 The tiny little screen, the lack of right-click.

00:04:38.400 Right-click is what makes a computer in my...

00:04:41.080 Right-click.

00:04:46.240 You can't write-click, it's not a computer.

00:04:48.400 Yeah, yeah, that's true.

00:04:49.740 I mean, I guess...

00:04:51.520 I mean, simply put, it's not a computer.

00:04:53.960 Not in the truth.

00:04:55.060 It's not a desktop or a laptop.

00:04:56.640 You know, it's just...

00:04:57.920 It is a device that can use, so by definition.

00:05:00.920 But it's not really, like, a personal computer.

00:05:03.880 So I seem to understand.

00:05:05.040 You know what?

00:05:05.840 Trying to do computing on a phone or a Macintosh is like trying to write poetry in Klingon.

00:05:13.060 It's an artificial language that does not have enough adjectives.

00:05:17.880 You know, like, in theory, you can do it.

00:05:20.620 In practice, get a real computer.

00:05:23.000 And honestly, with all the BS, with Windows 8, 8.1, all...

00:05:28.720 And I swear to God, here's the saddest thing.

00:05:32.260 Windows 8 was designed for tablets.

00:05:34.420 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:35.260 8.1 is for adult computers.

00:05:40.240 8 worked better.

00:05:42.500 Yeah, yeah, I did not even upgrade to 8.1.

00:05:46.160 No, and anybody out there, do not upgrade.

00:05:48.700 I used to be able...

00:05:50.660 Like, you have to hit the Windows key.

00:05:53.000 So, you know, you can't install it on anything.

00:05:55.200 You hit the Windows key, then you type, you search for it.

00:05:59.320 On Windows 8, the search would come up immediately.

00:06:02.720 8.1, my computer freezes for about 20, 30 seconds.

00:06:07.820 It's a nightmare.

00:06:10.520 Do not upgrade.

00:06:11.580 Anyway, so this has been the PC Hour with your experts.

00:06:15.140 And, well, thank you very much for being on the show.

00:06:17.820 And I hope you guys learned something.

00:06:19.480 I'm going back to Linux with my next box, if I can, I pray. 0.72

00:06:26.140 I'm an ornery old cuss. 0.89

00:06:27.660 Get off my lawn. 0.96

00:06:28.600 So, I think we were going to talk about the MGTOW movement. 0.79

00:06:33.720 Yeah, which is, which, I'm not lying, is a very strange thing to me now.

00:06:38.320 Because, originally, a couple of months ago, I don't know if you ever saw it, but, like, I did a debate with the Manhood Academy.

00:06:44.500 Are you familiar with these guys?

00:06:46.300 Mm, loosely.

00:06:47.980 Now, I got the email, I don't know if it was by them or by somebody that read them, saying I should check out their book.

00:06:55.320 This was about three or four years back, and I took a glance at it.

00:06:59.820 And, like, everything I saw seemed pretty good, but it wasn't really, at that point in my life, it wasn't revolutionary.

00:07:06.840 If I were 24, it probably would have been.

00:07:09.380 But at the time, like, eh, I never really got into it.

00:07:12.740 Okay, I see.

00:07:13.500 So, I'm going to go off your perspective on all this.

00:07:16.840 Yeah, uh, Manhood Academy, you know, the professor is what he calls himself. 0.99

00:07:24.620 He's not a stupid guy. 0.99

00:07:26.120 I, I, you'll never hear me call him dumb. 0.98

00:07:28.160 He's not dumb. 0.82

00:07:29.060 Oh, Professor William, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:07:30.760 Very, very abrasive son of a bitch, I will say that. 1.00

00:07:35.460 Very abrasive guy, loves to throw out the word faggot. 1.00

00:07:40.060 Good person. 0.99

00:07:40.440 But, anyway, I remember he, he, like, he made a whole video where he was criticizing MGTOW.

00:07:45.840 Like, this is a couple months ago.

00:07:47.700 And I'm telling you, like, the way, when I see my point of view, you know, the MGTOW community has definitely changed a lot in these last couple months. 0.71

00:07:54.220 Because, um, from what I saw there, MGTOW is a lot smaller, and it's just a group of men, you know, you know, really just focusing on themselves, making themselves better.

00:08:03.080 And they just said, we don't want girlfriends, we're going to leave you alone, we're just going to focus on ourselves.

00:08:07.540 And it was that sort of, really, of a concept.

00:08:09.560 When I first saw it, and from what I had seen, anyway, so I went on to debate with the professor, because I love that MGTOW community.

00:08:18.320 I was like, this is fantastic, you know.

00:08:20.020 And I was like, you know, dude, you can't really get upset with these MGTOWs, you know, because they don't want to talk to women. 1.00

00:08:25.360 That's their prerogative.

00:08:26.200 And if they got treated badly, you know, let them, you know, have some time to heal, get better.

00:08:30.700 If they never want to date a woman again, that's their prerogative, you know. 0.97

00:08:34.220 But, uh, personally, I will say, at first, I actually thought of MGTOW as something more temporary, like, something that you just do for the time being.

00:08:43.160 You know, you just, you know, you say, you work on yourself, you make yourself better, you become financially stable.

00:08:49.240 And then after all of that, you know, you then make the choice, you know, do I want a woman or not, that's all up to you. 0.94

00:08:54.960 But as I see it now, and certainly isn't like that now, it has leaned more towards being really vitriolic towards the behavior of women.

00:09:07.040 You know, like, they really, really viciously criticize women.

00:09:11.740 And it sounds really, really better.

00:09:14.520 And this isn't everybody, you know.

00:09:16.240 Like, with every conversation, you kind of have to preface, well, this is not everyone, you know.

00:09:20.560 So, uh, because all MGTOWs, they're different people, but, you know, you can see some similarities in a lot of them. 0.92

00:09:26.780 They're very vitriolic people.

00:09:29.120 Uh, and some of them, some of them are great.

00:09:30.940 Some of them, that's why I subscribe to them, I listen to them a lot.

00:09:33.740 They're really nice people.

00:09:34.880 They like talking.

00:09:35.840 And others, they're just really angry, you know.

00:09:38.220 It's just, it's a mixed bag.

00:09:39.700 It's just, like, a bunch of different people there.

00:09:41.240 But, it's, it's changed a lot from what I've seen, I guess, is the only thing I can really say.

00:09:45.120 Um, originally, it was just a group of guys, uh, who just wanted to make themselves better.

00:09:50.840 And, uh, that's the MGTOW I truly, deeply respected. 0.99

00:09:55.320 I wish he kind of leaned more towards that, instead of, you know, just being angry all the time.

00:09:59.900 You know?

00:10:01.020 Yeah, hey, hey, let me, let me amend something.

00:10:03.140 You asked me if I knew, you know what, Professor Mentu?

00:10:06.480 I don't know if that's his name, I just know he calls himself a professor.

00:10:09.800 I know him by reputation.

00:10:11.720 Of people I trust.

00:10:13.280 Very good guy.

00:10:14.200 I, I never really got into his blog, just because it, like I said, when he was writing at the, at that point, it's stuff I already knew.

00:10:23.660 It's stuff that I, I agreed with, wasn't really getting into.

00:10:27.000 Great, solid guy from what I hear.

00:10:30.460 Uh, really hope to have a beer with him at some point.

00:10:32.980 Yeah, I don't know, maybe, maybe different, uh, you know, personally.

00:10:36.740 Oh, it's, it's the same one.

00:10:38.920 Things are clicking together now.

00:10:40.380 Yeah, I, I drink a lot, so it takes me a while to remember things.

00:10:44.060 Get off my lawn.

00:10:46.500 But yeah, I guess, I guess he's different, like, in person.

00:10:49.220 I don't know. 0.70

00:10:49.560 Again, like I say, he's not, he's not a dumb guy.

00:10:51.640 He's just, uh, very abrasive individual.

00:10:54.820 And very difficult to, uh, talk to when he gets riled up.

00:10:57.800 So, um, in my experience, at least, you know, uh, I think the debate's still on their, uh,

00:11:02.040 old channel.

00:11:02.860 Because I know they've got a new channel.

00:11:04.080 I saw it pop up in my, uh, suggestions feed.

00:11:07.760 You know, but, uh, yeah, I defended the MGTOW community. 1.00

00:11:10.760 I'll still defend MGTOWs, too. 1.00

00:11:12.200 Even though I see a lot of them really angry, you know, I still think, uh, it is, it's needed.

00:11:19.360 I do think, uh, it is needed, uh, to have a group of men who want to focus on making themselves

00:11:25.080 better.

00:11:25.860 But I think that should be the primary focus.

00:11:27.960 I don't really think talking about, uh, women so angrily, if you don't want to have much 1.00

00:11:33.460 to do with them, is much to do with them.

00:11:35.660 Actually, they don't even want to have, some of these guys don't even want to have solutions.

00:11:38.460 So I don't really understand what is the purpose of them being so angry with women if they don't 1.00

00:11:44.400 have the need to think to be.

00:11:46.660 You know, and these, again, these are the guys who, again, like, it's not everybody.

00:11:50.140 It's just those in particular, you know.

00:11:52.520 Well, that's half of my issue with all of this.

00:11:56.500 Uh, is, listen, on the Red Pill subreddit, this was a couple of years ago, I don't know

00:12:04.120 what's going on there now, but they posted basically, like, the stages of grief from

00:12:10.120 taking the Red Pill.

00:12:11.860 Like, when you first take the Red Pill, usually it's because you went through something really

00:12:16.480 traumatic in your life.

00:12:19.100 You know what, maybe it was a really harsh breakup, or maybe you got, you know, completely

00:12:24.080 raped in divorce court, or maybe you, um, got accused of domestic violence. 0.83

00:12:30.220 That was it for me.

00:12:31.160 That's what really opened my eyes to it, was, uh, going through a false, uh, domestic violence

00:12:37.920 accusation.

00:12:38.680 And all of a sudden, I started questioning all these previous assumptions I'd had, and

00:12:44.140 one by one, they just, they fell apart like, uh, like, like, spit on cotton candy.

00:12:49.780 They just, there was nothing to them.

00:12:52.320 Gotcha.

00:12:52.640 And, um, wait, where was I going with that?

00:13:00.800 So, so there's the stages of grief when you take the Red Pill and you realize you've been

00:13:06.440 lied to your entire life.

00:13:07.920 You realize that you've been, it's like, you get angry at first, or you're really hurt

00:13:12.820 at first.

00:13:14.420 And so, on the Red Pill subreddit, they said, like, listen, this is a space for guys to talk

00:13:20.560 like, guys, this is the locker room, so we're not allowing any women in here. 1.00

00:13:25.620 You know, uh, Return of Kings has the same policy.

00:13:27.820 Sorry, no women allowed. 1.00

00:13:29.080 There are good women out there. 1.00

00:13:30.660 We're not saying there ain't.

00:13:32.260 But there's no women allowed on here because this is the locker room. 1.00

00:13:35.980 And guys that have been hurt need to get it out.

00:13:39.360 They need to be able to be angry.

00:13:43.180 Yeah, and I agree with that, yeah, absolutely.

00:13:45.400 That's normal and healthy.

00:13:46.700 But what I'm seeing, all right, the whole reason this is an issue is that, basically,

00:13:57.140 my buddy Aaron, Aaron Clary, made an offhand comment about how there's a lot of guys calling

00:14:03.940 themselves MGTOWs because they're too afraid to go out there and meet women.

00:14:08.740 Instead of, they're not bitter over anything that, like, they're not bitter over a divorce.

00:14:16.220 They're not angry about something that happened to them.

00:14:19.800 They're afraid of trying in the first place.

00:14:23.300 And so they're adopting the attitude of men that have been through bad, bad stuff.

00:14:29.440 Do you know what it is?

00:14:30.080 It's like pretending that you are the same moral level as a Vietnam vet when you never served

00:14:36.700 in the first place.

00:14:37.540 And then coming up to an actual veteran like myself and starting to tell me about how the

00:14:48.060 military is just exploiting the dead.

00:14:50.740 Listen, listen, I will be the first one to get furious over anybody that's not getting

00:14:58.020 the treatment they deserve or anybody that got screwed over by the military because those

00:15:02.620 are my brothers. 1.00

00:15:03.300 But don't you come up to me, peace, Nick, and pretend to be my fucking brother. 0.99

00:15:11.100 We're on entirely different teams here. 0.98

00:15:13.940 And so this goes into the second point, and I want to get this out here early because it's

00:15:21.920 not something I'm trying to brag about, but when you want to talk about MGTOWs, I'm one 0.98

00:15:30.480 of the old school ones.

00:15:32.040 I am one of the originals.

00:15:33.500 Yeah, I'm not a perfect, I'm not the second coming of Christ or anything like that, but

00:15:39.640 like Rob Fetters is the guy that invented the term MGTOW.

00:15:43.060 Him and the other group on the old men going their own way for him.

00:15:48.840 And they invented it because it wasn't supposed to be pronounceable.

00:15:53.500 They did not want it to be an acronym or an initialism.

00:15:56.980 Or sorry, they did want it to be an initialism, not an acronym.

00:15:59.380 And he's linked my sight in the past.

00:16:04.860 So I think that qualifies me as having enough street cred to tell these new MGTOWs, y'all 1.00

00:16:13.940 don't know what the hell you're talking about. 0.55

00:16:15.880 Yeah, and I think one thing, one thing, I don't know, I personally, I do kind of feel

00:16:23.280 that for, there's one thing that I've noticed a lot, I'm kind of switching gears here, is

00:16:29.280 how some of them, if anyone has like a dissenting opinion about them, like with Erin Ferry,

00:16:38.140 you know, it's not just Erin Ferry.

00:16:40.140 I think the same thing kind of happened with Karen, with Karen Strong, because I guess she

00:16:44.260 was defending traditionalism or something like that, she got a firestorm.

00:16:48.240 This girl, girl, I'm not going to go and hang out with her later this week, Alex got a firestorm

00:16:53.460 because she made a video, which technically speaking, she wasn't really, I guess she's

00:16:57.560 criticizing the attributes of MGTOW, but she didn't say MGTOW specifically.

00:17:01.160 A bunch of MGTOWs caught wind of it, they made multiple video responses to it, just, you 0.58

00:17:05.380 know, just sharted down it.

00:17:07.020 A lot of people still don't like her to this day because of the video she made. 0.95

00:17:10.860 And the thing that gets me, it just kind of frustrates me a little bit, it's like, these

00:17:15.220 are supposed to be like grown-ass men, like adults.

00:17:18.180 I'm like, I mean, guys, I mean, people are allowed to feel differently. 0.69

00:17:21.480 Like, it's all fucking K if someone doesn't feel the way you feel, you know, and if someone 0.96

00:17:27.400 says the mean thing to you, again, you're an adult, you can just pick your balls up and 1.00

00:17:32.100 leave, you know, you don't have to deal with that shit. 1.00

00:17:34.280 And what kills me is that I'll see some of these guys and say, you know, we don't care about 0.99

00:17:38.280 what anyone says about us, and I'm like, well, evidently you do, because when someone

00:17:42.380 says something mean about you, or if someone says, I don't know, something just indifferent,

00:17:46.360 or just, if someone says something you don't fucking like, and they'll react like it's 0.98

00:17:50.580 too much fucking this, get really angry. 0.98

00:17:52.620 You know, and again, like I said, I've got to preface this, it's not everyone, you know, 0.99

00:17:55.380 I don't want anyone to start fishing at me because I'm criticizing the men who are doing 0.90

00:18:01.360 this shit, but I mean, you know, seriously, and I've noticed this a lot, and I just don't 0.98

00:18:05.520 understand, you know, how can you simultaneously tell them you don't care, but you very clearly 1.00

00:18:10.580 do care, because someone said something that you don't like.

00:18:13.640 Like, guys, I mean, we're dopes here, you know, you can feel different, and kind of like

00:18:17.920 with Karastronic, and like, again, like, I haven't, I don't know everything that happened

00:18:22.040 there, um, I know Razorblade Candy, you know who Razorblade Candy is, right?

00:18:26.920 He does, like, text-to-speech voice videos.

00:18:30.680 Oh, I can't, why not just record your own voice, okay? 0.99

00:18:34.240 It's, like, the, listen, the CIA's already recording all of the porn that you masturbate 1.00

00:18:40.260 to. 0.99

00:18:40.940 Like, why not, no civilian is going to figure out who you are from your voice.

00:18:50.600 That's my two-send.

00:18:52.520 Yeah, I don't know why he doesn't, uh, it doesn't bother me too much, but I just,

00:18:56.920 you know, just trying to bring him up, because I haven't even finished the whole video he

00:19:01.080 made, but I guess he made a video where he was trying to pwn Karen Strong, because Karen

00:19:05.200 made a long-winded comment and brought in a bunch of MRAs, and then there's the MRAs 0.64

00:19:09.680 we can chat about a little bit, because, uh, one thing I just, I had never noticed before,

00:19:14.580 a lot of people said that MRAs are turning into, you know, the male brand of feminists, and 1.00

00:19:20.800 at this point, uh, I, I, I can't completely agree with that, I think, they certainly are

00:19:25.500 not, are not feminists, but I can see why some people will make fun of, uh, MRAs, because 1.00

00:19:30.680 of some of the silly shit that they do, and some of them just get involved in stupid drama 0.99

00:19:35.800 that just is not conducive to anything, you know? 0.99

00:19:38.240 It's, like, it's one thing to have a massive disagreement where you guys talk and try to

00:19:42.300 figure things out, it's another thing to go, like, he said, she said, like, this is an

00:19:45.700 episode of fucking Degrassi, like, I remember I saw a comment on, like, uh, on, like, Diana's 0.69

00:19:51.200 video, and someone was like, did I just step into Degrassi? 0.97

00:19:54.340 And I was like, seriously, it's just so much, that's really just so much drama that's just

00:19:59.820 going on between, like, I guess you could say the male spirit.

00:20:03.100 And I think, uh, there's one guy, Molly MGTOW, he said, uh, you know, he's, he's noticed

00:20:08.200 the chaos, and I completely agree with him, and, like, he's one of the MGTOWs I like, he's 1.00

00:20:12.400 a very smart guy, and really wants to focus the so-called movement into doing something,

00:20:18.580 and I think the focus should be just, you know, instilling a level of self-esteem and

00:20:22.200 worth in men, but, it's just, this drama just really upsets me a lot, because it's just

00:20:27.420 not conducive to anything.

00:20:28.960 When it becomes more about the drama than about the subject matter, like, like, listen, 0.81

00:20:32.520 I've, I've got friends all over the goddamn place, okay?

00:20:36.660 Um, I, I'm friends with Doc Illusion, and, okay, I, I haven't met Ruch in person, I, I 0.81

00:20:41.340 really hope to share a beer with him at some point, but Doc Illusion really doesn't like

00:20:46.080 Ruch, and I disagree, like, listen, this is the thing about guys, they have beefs with

00:20:52.480 one another, but Doc Illusion, he's honorable about the whole thing, he doesn't like Ruch,

00:20:58.560 I know it, okay, he'll concede sometimes that Ruch has some good points, and it's like,

00:21:03.980 alright, as long as you're reasonable and honorable.

00:21:06.360 You know, I'm friends with Matt Forney and Paul Illum, and, uh, you know, they, they, they,

00:21:12.620 they got a beef with each other, but it's still an honorable beef.

00:21:16.160 I understand why they have the beef with each other, but they're, they're not, that, when

00:21:21.720 they have argued with each other, they argued with each other up front and in the open, and 0.99

00:21:27.160 they outright called each other faggots. 0.99

00:21:30.780 They didn't sneak around, they, and this is what really gets me with the, these MGTOWs, 0.98

00:21:36.160 and, and now right, now, right off the bat, if you are feeling offended right now, think about it.

00:21:44.460 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:45.260 And am I describing you, and, and is the person I'm about to critique, is that you?

00:21:51.180 Because if it's not you, I'm not critiquing you.

00:21:54.800 Thank you, exactly, exactly. 0.99

00:21:57.540 If, if I say feminists are delusional bitches that have never worked a day in their life, 1.00

00:22:02.860 and you consider yourself a feminist, and you work at a fabrication plant, and you're, 1.00

00:22:10.260 whatever, I'm not talking about you.

00:22:15.420 I'm not criticizing you.

00:22:18.060 I'm talking about what I'm noticing from the movement.

00:22:21.320 And if, and it, and hey, and if anybody wants to say, you know what, the Manosphere is full

00:22:25.100 of these fake game bloggers that have anonymous names, and I don't believe for a day that any

00:22:30.720 of them got laid, I'll say, yeah, you're right. 1.00

00:22:34.320 Pisses me the fuck off. 0.99

00:22:37.360 So when I, when I see these, these MGTOWs, and they, they appear in the comments section 1.00

00:22:41.980 making these snide remarks, and making all these, they, they don't know anything about

00:22:47.580 the movement.

00:22:48.580 All they understand is popularity and social status. 1.00

00:22:51.920 You're, you're, you're attacking my favorite guy, and so you must be an idiot. 1.00

00:22:59.300 You must be, jeez, I just covered this in my video on Monday about how there's like the 1.00

00:23:03.880 two, there's the two heresies.

00:23:06.640 So because I don't endorse rejecting all women and spending every day hating them, I must want 1.00

00:23:13.460 you to be a slave in marriage. 1.00

00:23:16.080 No, and that, and that's one thing that I say all the time, like, I'll, I'll never

00:23:20.320 knock any man for not wanting to get married.

00:23:22.620 I feel that's, that's your prerogative.

00:23:24.840 I'll, I'll never knock any man for not wanting to have children.

00:23:27.400 That's, that's your prerogative.

00:23:28.660 You can do whatever you want to do.

00:23:30.420 You know, uh, and I think that's perfectly fine.

00:23:33.440 I have no issue with that.

00:23:34.860 The thing that gets me is, you know, I'll say, you know, like, I, I personally would like 0.97

00:23:38.740 to get married, and then I had a couple of people who call me stupid and get upset with 0.98

00:23:42.520 me. 0.99

00:23:43.000 Actually, I remember one time, um, uh, I, I remember I fucked up once way back when, and

00:23:49.460 I said that, um, I wasn't a hundred percent against gynocentrism, and I, I'll completely 1.00

00:23:53.980 admit I was wrong, because what I originally thought was gynocentrism was just, uh, just

00:23:58.140 having relationships with women.

00:23:59.800 I was, I was ignorant on the topic, so that's my fault.

00:24:02.800 And a lot of people got upset with me, but some of them, and this is how I know, they're,

00:24:07.160 they're different mid-tiles, and some of them really just kind of chatted with me, and

00:24:11.040 just like, you know, there's, I don't really think you understand what gynocentrism is.

00:24:13.860 It, it's not just relationships with women, you know, it's more, you know, uh, it's an

00:24:18.420 over, it's more a lot of attention on women, acting, expensive men, you know, just to 0.81

00:24:22.540 clear real briefly.

00:24:23.420 And some of them, again, like I say, will definitely have a conversation, and will talk

00:24:28.080 to me, which is why I, I will still always defend me, Tao, it's just, you know, these other

00:24:32.340 guys, you know, you're talking about Davis, is, I agree, the drama, the attention-seeking,

00:24:37.100 I think is ridiculous, and from those in particular.

00:24:42.240 Yeah, I actually just, uh, heard an interesting, uh, comment from, uh, uh, Mercedes Carrera,

00:24:47.580 actually, I was just reviewing the footage, uh, the interview with her, and she was pointing

00:24:52.100 out, like, are you familiar with, uh, the maiden-mother-crone?

00:24:55.880 No.

00:24:56.860 Okay, the maiden-mother-crone is the three stages of, uh, uh, of female psychology. 0.98

00:25:03.380 Like, it's the traditional understanding of the archetypal growth of the woman.

00:25:08.380 And she was talking, like, the maiden is the pure, innocent, virginal, like, the mother

00:25:13.480 is the adult woman, the mother, the wife, and then the crone is the, the elder wisdom.

00:25:19.700 But they each have their dark halves, and the, and she was saying that this entire social

00:25:25.200 justice movement is really the dark half of the maiden.

00:25:27.460 Because it's, it's narcissistic, they want to see the world reflected in themselves, they,

00:25:33.100 they can't think about, like, the mother thinks about other people, and the crone thinks about

00:25:37.100 society.

00:25:38.000 Like, the mother thinks about her children and her family, and she, the crone thinks about 0.65

00:25:42.140 the, the entire society.

00:25:43.700 Um, the, the maiden just thinks about herself, trying to choose the best man, but the dark maiden 1.00

00:25:48.860 is, is, is, wants the entire world to reflect what she does.

00:25:56.180 She doesn't want to be responsible for anything.

00:26:00.140 Yeah.

00:26:00.780 So there's, there's women you can talk to about this.

00:26:04.540 I mean, yes, we have a lot of terrible women nowadays, but the entire, like, we turn the 1.00

00:26:10.100 dance of the sexes into a sex war.

00:26:12.200 And you guys need to arm yourselves, because like it or not, you're going up against armed

00:26:17.480 assailants. 0.92

00:26:18.940 Damn straight. 0.97

00:26:22.340 But it's often, it's a very emotional interpretation, it's a very angry interpretation, whereas the 0.93

00:26:30.020 original, you know, the guy that coined the term MGTOW, it's about understanding how women

00:26:36.060 are different.

00:26:36.660 It's about having a realistic perspective on life.

00:26:42.400 And then, when you know all this, when you get rid of the, the Candyland veneer of how

00:26:48.160 life is wonderful, it's about going your own way, figuring out what you want out of life.

00:26:54.680 It doesn't mean screaming, I'm never going to get married. 1.00

00:26:58.380 When you're 20, fuck you, listen, when you're 20 and you're beautiful and you have friends 1.00

00:27:03.520 and you're at university, yeah, yeah, okay, it's easy to make such declarations. 1.00

00:27:09.300 When you're 50 and you're ugly and nobody wants to talk to you, Stefan Molyneux just did a video

00:27:20.000 on that.

00:27:20.700 When you're in your 20s and 30s, you should be building a life, and this means interpersonal

00:27:28.580 connections, it means personal accomplishments, skills, abilities, et cetera, that leads to

00:27:35.620 you having a community in 20 years' time.

00:27:42.180 Maybe that's with a married woman. 1.00

00:27:44.380 Yeah, and again, you know, marriage law is, yes, I know marriage law is broken, but talk

00:27:49.780 about that, I, do I really need to say anything more?

00:27:56.740 Be cautious.

00:27:58.240 Don't marry the first girl that, that makes eyes at you. 0.70

00:28:02.380 Yeah, I think, I think that's one lesson I, I kind of noticed a lot with a couple of my

00:28:06.500 friends is, uh, they get so little female attention that even when a toxic woman gives 1.00

00:28:11.520 them attention, they just kind of put a lot of into it, and I was, and I was at one too

00:28:14.840 not younger, you know, so it's not of their fault, but I think, uh, one thing that I kind

00:28:19.840 of say a lot on my channel is, men gotta do a little more selective with who they pick.

00:28:24.420 Well, have you heard the term, have you heard the term thirsty man?

00:28:29.180 Oh yeah, absolutely, all the time.

00:28:31.940 Thirsty, thirsty names, thirsty men, yeah.

00:28:34.960 They will sell you out at the drop by hat.

00:28:39.540 You can not trust thirsty men.

00:28:41.360 No, no, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't really trust thirsty people in general,

00:28:45.440 either, but thirsty just really means attention seeking, you know, so, uh, and I actually

00:28:49.820 gotta make a whole video series about thirsty women, so, big up for that, but, um, yeah, 1.00

00:28:55.220 that's basically, they're, they're men who kowtow to women, they, are just desperately seeking

00:28:59.800 their attention in their approval, and to that, I understand, you can definitely criticize

00:29:03.780 something like that, because that's just unacceptable, but, um, yeah, I guess.

00:29:08.360 I'll, I'll be honest, I, um, with the whole MGTOW thing, I'm feeling a lot of thirst from

00:29:15.700 some of them.

00:29:16.900 I can understand why you say that, I can't.

00:29:19.180 And it's, it's, it's inversed, it's like, it's upside down thirst, but they are so eager

00:29:26.440 to prove that they don't care what women think of them. 0.50

00:29:29.580 I think, and, you know, that's, that's something that happens in a lot of people, uh, especially,

00:29:35.120 you'll, you'll find that in a lot of attention, Horace, is that they will make a gigantic show

00:29:40.380 of, I don't care about what you have to say.

00:29:42.740 Well, I mean, you, you, you really show just how much you don't care by telling me you don't

00:29:48.560 care.

00:29:48.860 This whole show of how it doesn't matter to you, that's why you're complaining and

00:29:52.740 halfway crying about it.

00:29:54.020 You know, that, that is, that is a trait that a lot of, uh, attention-seeking people

00:29:57.720 do, uh, possess.

00:29:59.680 They, they'll make a gigantic show of how they just, they don't care about your opinion,

00:30:03.360 but evidently, they, they clearly do.

00:30:05.840 Yeah, it's, you know, as the Becloff said, the Manosphere isn't something you write, it's

00:30:12.520 a genre that you write in.

00:30:14.660 And MGTOW is not a movement, it's a philosophy.

00:30:18.200 In fact, one of the sad things about MGTOW is that the best MGTOW writers wind up quitting

00:30:27.720 and going their own, going their own way, and they're no longer, like, they, they, they 0.88

00:30:33.380 write their piece, they're like, this is how I see the fucking world, and you boys can learn 0.88

00:30:38.180 from me or not, I don't care, because that motorcycle's running, I'm getting on it, and 0.99

00:30:45.040 I'm driving through the mountains.

00:30:46.420 See ya.

00:30:48.200 Like, myself, the reason I keep making videos, the reason I keep writing is, because I'm not

00:30:58.500 writing about feminism, feminism comes up a lot, but I'm writing about truth and philosophy

00:31:05.560 and beauty and martial prowess.

00:31:08.360 I'm, you know, I, I have things, I'm focusing, MGTOW is not something to focus on, it's something

00:31:15.980 to understand, and when you understand it, you put it down, and you move on with your

00:31:19.860 life.

00:31:23.980 Yeah, you know, uh, you know Bernard Kaplan, right?

00:31:27.280 Chapin! 0.95

00:31:28.140 Chapin! 0.95

00:31:28.640 Chapin, Chapin, there you go.

00:31:29.340 Yeah, I had tears with a guy, um, what was it, December?

00:31:32.200 Yeah, crashed on his couch.

00:31:33.340 He is a solid individual.

00:31:35.280 And by the way, he is a lot smarter than you think.

00:31:40.160 Uh, I'm sure he is, but, uh, I remember, you know, he, he put it best to me, he's like,

00:31:44.820 you know, I don't, I don't, I don't need the club to tell me I'm a man going his own way,

00:31:48.420 you know, just, just do it.

00:31:50.120 You know, I'm just, I'm just a man going his own way, and he just put it as simple as that.

00:31:54.500 I was like, there you go, Chapin, yeah.

00:31:55.980 Chapin, he's Chapin, right?

00:31:57.640 Chapin.

00:31:58.580 Chapin, yeah. 0.58

00:32:00.280 By the way, very interesting guy, I like him.

00:32:01.940 Uh, I do, he's a very interesting guy.

00:32:05.000 I guess, well, one thing I will say is, I think a lot of people kind of get caught in

00:32:09.640 this trap, and my friend Chaos Six Queen kind of brought this to my attention, as, uh,

00:32:14.340 some people move really close to a zero-sum game, and, like, left versus right, or MRA

00:32:19.900 versus feminism, and I guess sometimes he does kind of lean a little more towards that, you

00:32:24.420 know, combative right-wing area, but that's, that's the only thing I can really say about

00:32:28.580 him.

00:32:29.300 Uh, he's a very intelligent man, I like less than a boy.

00:32:32.440 Oh, and you know, and again, there's a role to be angry.

00:32:35.580 Yeah.

00:32:36.140 There's a, but, stop being angry at your brothers-in-arms, you know?

00:32:42.700 Stop being, stop being angry at the wrong people.

00:32:46.360 Yeah.

00:32:48.160 Yeah, because, like, even, even though, uh, I called myself an anti-feminist for a while, 1.00

00:32:52.340 we're probably gonna drop that and just focus more on responding to stupid shit. 0.99

00:32:56.320 Yeah, because, uh, it wasn't even, it really wasn't even feminism that I disliked so much, 1.00

00:33:01.780 more as, you know, an over-sweeping generalization, you know, and the hypocrisy, which is why I

00:33:07.480 even talk about, like, atheist quote members, too, or, like, just, like, anti-theists. 0.91

00:33:12.200 It's really just gigantic levels of hypocrisy and ignorance that I dislike. 0.94

00:33:16.980 Like, and I, I guess I make more fun of feminism because it's, it's really easy and, and it's 1.00

00:33:21.760 really toxic, too, and it has a lot of power for no, for some reason, feminists still have 1.00

00:33:26.920 a lot of power in our society, even though a lot of people really do it a lot, but, um,

00:33:31.960 yeah, that's definitely why. 0.99

00:33:33.200 There's a little more focus against hypocrisy and just stupid stuff, I see. 0.94

00:33:37.860 Uh, the other night, I think I recommended the, the fourth turning to you. 0.57

00:33:41.520 In the 48 hours since then, have you managed to finish that book?

00:33:45.660 No, I haven't, I haven't got to start on it.

00:33:48.120 Yeah, just send it to me again.

00:33:49.860 It's, well, the authors would argue that the, the millennial generation is a hero generation.

00:33:55.940 And the hero generation wants to be part of an army.

00:34:01.020 And you can, what's that really popular song?

00:34:04.460 It was in the Lego movie about, we're all part of a-

00:34:07.020 Every day is awesome?

00:34:08.220 Yeah, every day is awesome.

00:34:09.200 It's all about being part of a team, isn't it?

00:34:11.520 Yeah.

00:34:12.380 That, that is the, the, the clarion call of the millennial generation.

00:34:19.340 They want to be part of a team.

00:34:21.260 Uh, me, I'm, I'm the very tail end of Gen X.

00:34:25.400 Our, our music was about how we're alienated and alone.

00:34:30.120 We're the nomad generation.

00:34:32.160 Nobody gives a damn about us.

00:34:33.740 We have to survive on our own.

00:34:34.900 And so I get that these millennials want to be part of something bigger.

00:34:41.480 They want to be part of an army.

00:34:43.940 But, but, basing your identity off of ideological maxims, no, like the only, serve the truth is what I'm saying.

00:35:00.480 Yeah.

00:35:00.760 Is learn something true?

00:35:02.720 And to be, and to be, and to be fair, I, uh, sorry to cut you off, but I think that's really a gigantic reason why people in general get so upset when you criticize them.

00:35:12.480 I think it's because they leave their identity to, uh, to that label, to their ideology.

00:35:18.320 And so when you say something against it, it's like you're personally attacking them.

00:35:21.520 I think my, my roommate Sean put it best.

00:35:23.240 It's like too many people confuse what they like or who they are.

00:35:27.700 And I think that's just one important thing to point out.

00:35:29.600 But go ahead.

00:35:30.000 Well, this has been a progressive thing going on for 50 years now is the increase in narcissism of the, uh, the West in general.

00:35:41.300 I recommend the, the blogger, the last psychiatrist, just Google him.

00:35:45.000 He's great.

00:35:45.900 Uh, and it's been affecting every generation, but narcissism is essentially the way I dress, the way I speak that like it's, I don't have a real identity on the inside.

00:35:58.540 I don't have accomplishments.

00:35:59.960 I don't have self-confidence.

00:36:01.460 I have a shell I put up.

00:36:03.640 And if you contradict that shell, either by exposing a hypocrisy of mine or by out-arguing my ideas, I consider that a personal attack.

00:36:15.220 Yeah. 0.97

00:36:15.860 And Gen X is narcissistic. 0.98

00:36:17.520 The, the boomers are narcissistic. 0.99

00:36:19.560 You know, the, the silencer are narcissistic. 0.95

00:36:22.660 It's been going on for a long while.

00:36:24.260 But I, you know, I also find that, I find that a lot of the millennials, they want guys like Aaron and myself to be cult leaders.

00:36:38.900 They want us to give them an identity, to tell them what they are, make them soldier, rank and file in our army.

00:36:46.380 And then they get angry when we don't do that.

00:36:52.700 When the real answer is, sorry folks, I don't have a war worth fighting.

00:36:56.800 Listen, if I have a conversation with the Pope and we declare the Fifth Crusade, then you can be soldiers in my army.

00:37:02.660 But, right now, I'm doing the best I can to tell people the truth as I see it, and encourage, and you were saying this to me the other night, that you, you and I are wrong about a lot of stuff that we say, probably.

00:37:20.640 Yeah.

00:37:21.220 True.

00:37:22.220 Yeah.

00:37:23.780 We want to encourage conversation on our channels, not groupthink.

00:37:29.640 Exactly.

00:37:30.480 Which is why I welcome the fact that everyone doesn't agree with me.

00:37:33.180 I think it's a great thing.

00:37:35.680 No, and they should have.

00:37:37.120 And it's not a personal attack when somebody disagrees with you.

00:37:40.420 Exactly.

00:37:43.160 Like, we have been...

00:37:44.660 We've been steeped in this culture of lies.

00:37:50.580 Because, listen, marketing.

00:37:53.340 Nike sneakers want you to buy their shoes and feel good about yourself.

00:37:58.100 Without realizing that the two things are connected to one another.

00:38:03.260 Yeah, that's marketing in a nutshell.

00:38:05.360 Buy our product because it makes you feel like a person.

00:38:09.480 Whatever person that...

00:38:10.680 Like, whatever.

00:38:11.820 If you're a goth, go to Hot Topic. 0.93

00:38:13.880 If you're a badass dude, buy an AR-15. 0.92

00:38:16.700 It'll give you your man card back.

00:38:18.560 You know, if you're...

00:38:19.760 Whatever you are, here's your identity. 1.00

00:38:22.080 You just need to buy our fucking product. 1.00

00:38:23.880 And I think what you're trying to do, what I'm trying to do... 0.99

00:38:31.440 What MGTOW was originally about is rejecting that whole identity thing.

00:38:39.420 Yeah.

00:38:39.600 If there's an army for millennials to fight in, it's the army of free thinking.

00:38:46.320 Yeah, that's the best way to put it.

00:38:47.980 That is the best way to put it.

00:38:50.560 And I'm sorry to say there's no merit badges when you're a free thinker.

00:38:55.760 There's just a lot of personal embarrassment when you admit you were wrong about something.

00:39:00.300 Well, you know, the interesting thing about that is, you know, there's never actually anything wrong about being wrong.

00:39:07.940 You know, a lot of people do get pretty hurt or angry when they get called out for being wrong.

00:39:13.140 But it's okay.

00:39:14.940 You know, I think a lot of people are really taught that it is okay to not be right sometimes.

00:39:19.700 Like, it's okay to, you know, to have to recant.

00:39:22.560 And, like, every now and again, I'll have to post an annotation to my videos and say, hey, look, I was wrong here.

00:39:28.180 You know, go check out something else or let me go correct this.

00:39:31.500 You know, like, it's okay to make mistakes.

00:39:33.440 And that's how you learn, you know.

00:39:34.900 It's perfectly fine.

00:39:36.600 You know, and I learn a lot from the people who subscribe to me all the time.

00:39:40.100 Like, there are a lot of people who are probably smarter than I am than I taught you.

00:39:42.940 And it's fine.

00:39:44.300 I think that's one lesson a lot of people really should learn, that it is okay to be wrong.

00:39:49.740 And it is not a crime to not always have all the answers.

00:39:54.220 I mean, you're really human.

00:39:55.660 So there's only so much one person should really know, you know. 0.94

00:39:58.280 And I don't know jack shit about electrical engineering, you know, but that doesn't mean that I'm a terrible person. 0.98

00:40:03.980 It doesn't even mean I'm stupid, you know. 0.99

00:40:06.580 Yeah, I screwed up. 0.54

00:40:08.440 I got Aristotle and Plato confused in a recent video I did about Plato and Aristotle.

00:40:15.060 Yeah, I remember that.

00:40:16.140 That was, I was so embarrassed.

00:40:18.140 What a jack, why did I, like, I've got this bad habit of getting all three of the big Greek philosophers confused with one another.

00:40:27.560 And about four years ago, I wrote down the one story, like, in my brain, I wrote down the story about Aristotle, but I subtitled it, Plato.

00:40:36.180 And then I say that in the video.

00:40:37.200 I didn't even Google that.

00:40:38.420 Why didn't I think to Google that? 1.00

00:40:40.200 Because I'm an idiot. 1.00

00:40:41.220 That's why. 1.00

00:40:41.780 But that's the reality is that you make mistakes.

00:40:49.420 We're, we're, none of us are perfect.

00:40:52.600 And if you look at the debate tactics, the SJWs in particular, they, they want to take up anything.

00:41:01.860 They, they, they will search through five years of tweets.

00:41:06.360 Like, I mean.

00:41:07.580 They really will.

00:41:08.400 That's literally, they, they really will.

00:41:10.780 And there's people I like and who I find inspirational and insightful. 1.00

00:41:15.820 I won't look through five years of their fucking bullshit. 0.99

00:41:18.860 And yet, they'll do this, and they'll find one thing that was, whatever, it could be something 1.00

00:41:32.300 that was vaguely offensive, or it could be something that was stupid, or it could be something 0.99

00:41:36.760 that was embarrassing. 1.00

00:41:38.140 It doesn't matter.

00:41:38.980 They will just search and search, and then they pat themselves on the back like they're

00:41:42.820 an investigative journalist for reading through five years.

00:41:46.380 You're not an investigative journalist. 0.99

00:41:48.860 You're a bloody accountant. 0.97

00:41:50.860 Except, except accountants do positive things in the world. 0.98

00:41:57.740 And, and you would think that the generation that, how to put it, you know what, like, again,

00:42:07.340 I'm Gen X.

00:42:08.060 I remember before computers.

00:42:10.260 Okay?

00:42:10.640 I, I remember library cards.

00:42:13.600 Only geeks have library cards now.

00:42:17.220 Everybody knows.

00:42:18.180 They're not internet pirates.

00:42:23.380 And, and there's, there's a joke that this, there is, the millennial generation, there

00:42:29.220 is porn of 90% of them.

00:42:31.700 Or something like that.

00:42:33.520 Wow.

00:42:35.060 Something, at least 50.

00:42:37.720 Yeah, let's put it that way.

00:42:39.160 At least 50.

00:42:39.820 Back in my day, it was a few Polaroids.

00:42:44.700 You know?

00:42:45.860 Yeah.

00:42:46.780 Polaroids.

00:42:48.060 You can pay somebody to destroy a Polaroid.

00:42:51.780 Worst case scenario, you get blackmailed, $10,000, it goes away.

00:42:56.640 Internet generation.

00:42:57.860 Yeah, it's over.

00:42:59.100 It's over.

00:42:59.200 It's over.

00:42:59.480 It's over, like, Christmas.

00:43:02.340 It's, it's over.

00:43:03.940 You think this would be the generation to stop judging people on, on who they're friends 0.99

00:43:12.460 with, on whether or not they're cool, whether or not they said something stupid five years 0.98

00:43:16.580 ago, et cetera, and, you know, I guess that, that's really why this whole MGTOW thing frustrates 0.94

00:43:28.540 me so much, is because MGTOW is supposed to be about going your own way, and yet I see

00:43:33.460 the most slavish, identitarian, uh, philosophy being, being embraced by some of them.

00:43:44.260 Yeah.

00:43:44.700 I, I don't know if it's 60%, or if it's 6%, it's a very vocal group.

00:43:51.860 Yeah.

00:43:52.440 But the SJWs are very vocal, and they're, like, best case scenario, one out of 20 people

00:43:59.360 are sympathetic with them.

00:44:02.220 Mm-hmm.

00:44:03.200 But they, but they, they still, they still manage to have a lot of power, for some reason.

00:44:07.060 I, I just, I just don't know where it comes from.

00:44:09.300 I do not understand the source.

00:44:12.200 Actually, I think I do.

00:44:12.860 I think I might understand the source, uh, I think it's just, a lot of people, I think

00:44:17.860 a lot of people want to do good, and they just don't think critically about what's going

00:44:22.060 on.

00:44:22.280 But I might have to expand upon that in the distant future.

00:44:25.680 Well, I think a huge part of it.

00:44:28.760 And this is something I've been, like, like, doing this documentary on Sarkeesian, you know,

00:44:34.440 examining her claims about being harassed, and, like, the amount of harassment I've received,

00:44:39.380 and, so I, it's really got me thinking.

00:44:44.560 Because I do try and put myself in other people's shoes, try and understand where they're coming

00:44:48.620 from.

00:44:49.580 Mm-hmm.

00:44:49.900 And, and, we're really just beginning to understand this, this whole internet technology, the many

00:44:58.880 to the many.

00:45:01.100 You know, like, we, we used to have these standards of decorum, that, you know, if you're sitting 1.00

00:45:07.360 around in the bar, and you say, well, you know, that, that Ronald Reagan, he's an asshole. 1.00

00:45:13.120 You know, you're just sitting at the bar, that's fine. 1.00

00:45:15.640 Whereas the guy that's writing the newspaper article, he's not going to title his article, 1.00

00:45:20.440 Ronald Reagan is an asshole. 1.00

00:45:22.600 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:25.000 But nowadays, like, that, like, that, that journalistic line has broken down.

00:45:29.980 Um, because, what's the difference between, you know, some, like, I, seriously, I've watched

00:45:39.020 so many people on Twitter, just because they do nothing but send insults to me, and I just

00:45:44.440 don't have the time to read it.

00:45:47.620 But, but, really, what is the difference, if I talk about the SJWs are harassing me, or

00:45:54.640 if Anita Sarkeesian says Gamergate's harassing her, even though she has nothing to do with

00:45:57.880 Gamergate.

00:45:58.700 Um.

00:45:59.060 Yeah.

00:45:59.980 Um, sorry, what was I saying?

00:46:02.960 But the thing is that, if you get, listen, if the media, if the national media, if the

00:46:10.660 newspapers were posting dozens of articles laughing at somebody for getting raped, or, or 0.99

00:46:17.080 what have you, or, or targeting some kid in high school that accidentally, you know, shit 0.93

00:46:24.840 their pants at prom, and saying, look at how funny this is.

00:46:28.720 We'd say that's a problem.

00:46:30.980 Okay.

00:46:33.300 But with the new media, because anybody can be a journalist, yeah, and it really blurs the

00:46:42.220 line.

00:46:42.520 I try and hold myself to a very high standard, and I think you do as well, but most of the

00:46:48.640 people out there tweeting are just tweeting insults at one another, and animated gifs, and

00:46:54.260 and, and you know what, that teenager nowadays, they shit their pants at prom, and somebody 0.83

00:47:02.640 makes a YouTube video with daft punk in the background for music, and it gets two million 0.97

00:47:12.900 hits.

00:47:13.280 Now, now, now I'm sure as hell not saying what we need is more FCC in the internet, what

00:47:19.660 we need is more censorship, that's the opposite of what I'm saying.

00:47:23.120 Mm-hmm.

00:47:25.720 But it's a, it's a confusing new technology, and we're trying to figure it out.

00:47:29.540 And there's a lot of people that behave very uncivilly when they have an anonymous account.

00:47:38.840 Yeah, true of that, true of that.

00:47:41.240 I don't know, I think, I mean, Stanley, Stanley put it best, man, with great power comes great

00:47:46.760 responsibility.

00:47:47.400 And it just rings true for everything.

00:47:51.380 It's just, there, there is a lot of power in eminity.

00:47:54.580 There's a lot of power in, you know, having the internet, or having a lot of this technology.

00:47:59.220 And a lot of people don't respect that power, and they don't respect the fact that, you know,

00:48:03.880 it's just that you can hurt people, but that you can, you can do a lot of things with it, 0.99

00:48:07.780 you know, and it's, a lot of people just resort to being stupid with it. 0.98

00:48:13.100 It's just, a lot of people, they just, they just kind of squander it, you know, 0.99

00:48:16.680 they'll, they'll put up absolute nonsense for no reason.

00:48:20.080 And, and yeah, that's what people want to see, they want to see nonsense.

00:48:23.320 Yeah, you know, like, it's not, not even like funny nonsense, it's not even stuff to 1.00

00:48:26.840 make you laugh, just, just nonsense, just stupid shit. 1.00

00:48:31.400 Akkad would weep at the libraries we have access to nowadays. 1.00

00:48:37.780 I'm not talking about Sargon.

00:48:41.960 And yet we, we just, what do we use it for?

00:48:44.900 Sharing funny gifts.

00:48:47.680 So, you know what, I, I think a lot of folks that listen to my channel, they, they might

00:48:53.540 have seen a couple of your videos, but they don't really know your background, how you

00:48:57.900 got into this, and it's actually, it's a little bit interesting, just slightly, so you

00:49:03.300 got, you guys can tune out right now, it's not that interesting, but, how, how did you

00:49:08.640 wind up doing these politically incorrect, um, screw you, this is the way I see it, and

00:49:17.840 I'm going to piss off everybody, and I'll never have a career, videos.

00:49:22.460 And, uh, what happened was, uh, to get personal, what happened was that growing up, I was a

00:49:35.460 really depressed person, and I had a lot of different things that, uh, happened to me in

00:49:37.320 my life, and, uh, I, I always had an innate desire to just kind of want to help people,

00:49:42.180 you know, really, uh, do something for other people, and so I figured the best way I could

00:49:47.320 do that is to share a lot of knowledge that I've gotten throughout the course of my lifetime,

00:49:50.320 and to put it out there in a pretty entertaining way, which is why I'm a really snarky person,

00:49:56.320 you know, by nature, you know, really snarky, sarcastic, and so I figured what I would do

00:50:01.320 is I would just meld the two together, and I'll be, I'll make some comedy skits, some politically

00:50:06.320 incorrect commentary, and then what happened was, uh, originally, funny thing about how I

00:50:10.320 started talking about, uh, feminism, which is, it's really ironic, because, um, I, I, going

00:50:17.320 up, and it's kind of funny to admit, I really did lean more towards being a, a, a, quote

00:50:22.320 unquote male feminist, or male ally, but, um, well, I, I, I once, you know, in the peace

00:50:30.320 studies class I took, yeah, I took the peace studies, guys, this is how, when I tell you

00:50:35.320 about broken academia, I, actually, the prof was bloody awesome, you know, uh, she, that

00:50:40.320 actually, like, negotiated between Palestinians and Israelis, she was, she was solid, it was all 0.98

00:50:46.320 the TAs that were giant faggots, but, yeah, I, I once, this one guy next to me in class 1.00

00:50:52.320 said, oh, she's a fucking feminist, and Irini circa, you know, 2003 or whatever said, well, 1.00

00:50:59.320 you like having casual sex, don't you? 1.00

00:51:03.320 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:04.320 Irini 2015, different fucking opinion, but. 0.99

00:51:08.320 Yeah. 0.98

00:51:09.320 Yeah, we all, we, we all went to the same public schools, we all read the exact same books,

00:51:15.320 you know, you, me, like, you think I don't know about all that social justice I'm supposed

00:51:23.320 to believe in?

00:51:24.320 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:25.320 And that's the thing, you know, it's funny because, um, really, I, and when I first started

00:51:30.320 making the, the criticisms of feminists, I actually made them directly to, I actually

00:51:36.320 made them to get a response from feminists to answer my questions, right? 1.00

00:51:40.320 So, you can actually see there is a gigantic change in how I do the video responses, and

00:51:46.320 that I was actually trying to get them to talk to me, right?

00:51:50.320 And over time, I realized that a lot of these guys aren't going to talk to me, and that's

00:51:55.320 why I kind of switched more to being really sarcastic about pointing out the hypocrisy,

00:51:59.320 and really more focusing on getting people to think about what's going on instead of, 0.97

00:52:03.320 you know, just listening to me bullshit them, you know?

00:52:06.320 Like, um, like for example, like with Lacey, the Lacey Green videos, uh, there's absolute 0.99

00:52:12.320 garbage in Lacey's videos, and I personally don't even think Lacey leaves half the shit 1.00

00:52:16.320 that she says, but, um, and the reason why I make the video responses is to point it out 0.99

00:52:20.320 and to say, okay, look, this is some terrible advice, let's, let's, let's think about something

00:52:25.320 else, let's try, this is different, you know, and other people will then come in and have

00:52:29.320 different conversations with me, and I think really, um, like I said, the whole point was

00:52:34.320 to start a discussion with different feminists, because it was really the whole rape culture 1.00

00:52:39.320 thing that really got me. It was, uh...

00:52:41.320 You, you, you honestly thought, at the, like, I'm guessing, you honestly thought that they

00:52:47.320 legitimately believed in all of this, and that you could speak to them like a human being,

00:52:52.320 and tell them your perspective that they just weren't aware of, and they'd say, 1.00

00:52:56.320 wow, I, I'm being a little bit of an asshole. 0.98

00:52:59.320 Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I thought, um, but, no, that's, that is not what happened, 0.98

00:53:03.320 um, and so then, I started making, and then a lot of other people started coming, actually,

00:53:08.320 I, I really didn't start getting a kick in this YouTube thing until I made, like, a video

00:53:13.320 about Elliot Rodgers, and the whole Elliot Rodgers thing happened, I made a video where I said

00:53:17.320 I was Elliot Rodgers, you know, like, I empathize with him, I understand why he became the way

00:53:22.320 he became, and then that's when people started coming and checking me out.

00:53:26.320 You know, when it comes to the videos on, like, feminism and, like, the left wing and all that,

00:53:31.320 that was, originally, I was really just trying to actually engage in conversation, but over time,

00:53:36.320 I kind of changed them or, you know, mock them and make people think about different things

00:53:40.320 at the same time. And then there's that, and then there's that, and, and growing up, I always, uh,

00:53:48.320 I was always bothered with, uh, our current society, our culture, because, I guess, people 0.59

00:53:53.320 have always said I had, like, an old man spirit, and there's always been some things that bothered me,

00:53:57.320 and so, that's why, there are other videos I make where I kind of talk about society, like,

00:54:02.320 rap music and different things, and other different, uh, stuff that I have on my channel.

00:54:07.320 So, it is, it was never really supposed to revolve around, like, just talking about feminism.

00:54:11.320 We were just kind of talking about, you know, like, the world that I see it.

00:54:14.320 And, I guess it's really easy to make fun of feminism, and feminism has a lot of power, 1.00

00:54:19.320 which is why I do talk about it a lot. But, uh, my channel isn't specifically focused on just

00:54:24.320 criticizing, uh, feminists. 1.00

00:54:27.320 It's, it's funny, it's almost the same story as the Becloff, who, well, what happened to him?

00:54:33.320 Is he was just trying to write, he writes, uh, landsharkattacks.blogspot, I don't know,

00:54:40.320 look, he writes on Reaction, just go there. He was just trying to write about comic books.

00:54:47.320 He didn't know what the Manosphere was, what the MRAs were, and then a bunch of SJW trolls

00:54:54.320 showed up and said, well, you're one of those Manosphere guys.

00:54:58.320 And he's like, what the hell is a Manosphere? And so he looks it up and he says, hey, these

00:55:01.320 guys are, these guys are alright.

00:55:03.320 Yeah, and that's what happened to me, too. Uh, I didn't even know I was a part of the Manosphere.

00:55:08.320 I mean, like, I was just talking about stuff, and just trying to make people think about

00:55:13.320 different topics. I didn't even know I was considered a part of it.

00:55:16.320 God saw me, folks! Hallelujah!

00:55:21.320 That's really how it happens. You just stand up one day and say, I'm sick of the bullshit. 1.00

00:55:27.320 And then you find out there's a giant culture war that you didn't even know was happening. 1.00

00:55:32.320 Yeah, exactly. I didn't even, I don't know. I was always the oddball when it came to things

00:55:38.320 I said, you know. So, uh, that's kind of how it all happened. Originally, I was supposed

00:55:44.320 to just, you know, make stuff like the Zeria show, just a comedy show, that I just put together

00:55:50.320 with myself, just different conversations I would think about. And so then, uh, you know,

00:55:56.320 from there, the video responses, you know, I, yeah. So, I don't know, I've definitely noticed,

00:56:01.320 there's definitely been a shift in, uh, how I used to do things, and I do things now.

00:56:05.320 And, uh, uh, you know, and it has been a change over time.

00:56:10.320 Well, you know what really stands out? And I meant to bring, bring this up way earlier,

00:56:16.320 but, uh, like, like, you started off as a comedy show. I just, you were just gonna poke

00:56:22.320 fun at intellectuals that were being a bit inconsistent in your view. You didn't, you didn't really see

00:56:27.320 a larger agenda or anything like that. And now, you're taking on, um, well, it doesn't matter who

00:56:35.320 you're taking on, because they're all united. Like, the mainstream media, the low-stream media,

00:56:40.320 they're, they're, they're united against us. But a couple of videos of yours really stood out to me,

00:56:46.320 where you were criticizing the Young Turks, and this group of, uh, I swear to God they looked like they 1.00

00:56:53.320 were 16 years old. But they were all, they were all angry at this woman that, that was raised in a, a lesbian 0.88

00:57:03.320 household, and then had the audacity to say, I wish I had a daddy growing up.

00:57:08.320 Exactly. I remember that one.

00:57:10.320 And the, the sheer nastiness coming out of it. Like, now,

00:57:15.320 Cenk. Cenk was completely misconstrued. Cenk's an asshole.

00:57:18.320 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:19.320 The hell with Cenk. 1.00

00:57:21.320 That guy's a complete prick. What really stood out to me was these, these kids 1.00

00:57:25.320 that were criticizing her and laughing at her, and dehumanizing her, and treating her like a brainwashed victim 0.74

00:57:33.320 un-person. Like, it was just so, it was very vicious. That, it, it's so interesting to be, these open-minded,

00:57:44.320 however you want to live, it's okay, okay. And they just, it was a two-minute hate.

00:57:50.320 Yeah. You know, the, the levels of hypocrisy that I see, you know, over on what you call the left-wing, you know, 0.50

00:57:57.320 and the feminists, it, it, is mind-blowing to me, really. Uh, and I just, I kind of have to wonder how they 1.00

00:58:02.320 live with themselves, really. How, how you can, how you can do that level of, like, double-think,

00:58:07.320 or how you can do, I don't know, it, it really does cause a great deal of cognitive dissonance to me.

00:58:13.320 When, like, in that video, that video, like, really, like, actually, the funny thing is, like, when, like, it, like,

00:58:18.320 the original footage for the response to Young Turks was really angry. I was really angry that they were actually

00:58:25.320 making fun of this woman, because, well, I know, the Young Turks were making fun of her, they were talking with her.

00:58:30.320 We're in the, the era of listen and believe. Yeah.

00:58:33.320 And this woman is writing about her, she says, I'm not angry at the gay community, I'm not angry at my, my two moms.

00:58:40.320 Yeah. I, I'm, I'm trying to fucking tell ya. 0.99

00:58:43.320 I wish I had a daddy. 0.99

00:58:47.320 Exactly.

00:58:48.320 Like, that, that, that heartfelt, and you're laughing at her as an un-person.

00:58:55.320 Good lord. You know what, go back to Rome. I'm sure you'd love watching those martyrs get eaten by lions. 0.81

00:59:02.320 Yeah, and that's the thing. It, it, it really, yeah, so, originally, I was really angry, and then, uh, I had to reshoot the footage,

00:59:09.320 because I, I figured, you know, uh, I don't know, I, I didn't wanna, I didn't wanna be angry.

00:59:13.320 And so, that's when I was really more, like, really more, I guess more sarcastic and ready with the second footage of the Young Turks video.

00:59:20.320 The, um, the video, the, um, the video, the, uh, I forgot, the, the prank, I forgot what they're called, but with the group of, uh, the Asian people.

00:59:30.320 Now, and I really wanna figure I'd just like to speak for themselves, because I just really wanted to show people that this is the world I'm living in right now,

00:59:36.320 and that a woman can say, look, I wish I had my dad, and they don't even understand the importance of father and grace to their children. 0.68

00:59:42.320 And a bunch, a bunch of chuckleheads can just laugh at her and ridicule her. 1.00

00:59:47.320 Yeah.

00:59:48.320 I mean, we get accused of misogyny.

00:59:52.320 I know, right? Of misogyny.

00:59:55.320 In the amount of times I've been accused of being a misogyny.

00:59:58.320 Oh, just wait for you, they're gonna call you a racist at some point, too, for crying out loud.

01:00:03.320 And, and, and, I have never dealt so disrespectfully with somebody, as, as they did.

01:00:16.320 Yeah. 0.98

01:00:17.320 Because, like, even, even though, even though I don't agree with everyone, I just, you know, I never would just, like, I don't, even when I say people are stupid, I don't really think that they're dumb people, you know? 1.00

01:00:30.320 It's really more like childish mocking, you know, like, you know, like, oh, you're an idiot, that's dumb. 0.99

01:00:34.320 You know, I don't ever actually think that these people don't have the ability to process information. 1.00

01:00:38.320 It's really more the hypocrisy that I want people to focus on. 1.00

01:00:41.320 It's not, it's not really the fact that they're just dumb idiots, it's that they're gigantic hypocrites. 1.00

01:00:47.320 And there's some level of cognitive dissonance that doesn't allow them to see it. 1.00

01:00:51.320 You, you say somebody's an idiot when you just demonstrate them contradicting themselves in the same speech, in the same video, you call them an idiot. 1.00

01:01:02.320 These people call her an idiot for disagreeing with the politically accepted belief system. 1.00

01:01:09.320 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:01:13.320 And it's absolutely monstrous.

01:01:15.320 Yeah.

01:01:16.320 And seriously, kudos to you for refilming that, because it really stands out, like the nastiness and vitriol of it all.

01:01:25.320 And you know, maybe this makes me sound like a queer, but Depeche Mode rots.

01:01:32.320 And nobody's watched Orgasmo.

01:01:36.320 But it really is a choice between love and hate.

01:01:43.320 Yeah.

01:01:44.320 Like when, you know, when I, when I get frustrated with people, like I have a more serious tone in my videos.

01:01:53.320 I'm angry, I'm Italian, I'm very good at being angry. 1.00

01:01:57.320 I'm passionate people, Mediterranean people.

01:02:01.320 Um, you, you are, like, we are very loving.

01:02:06.320 Yeah.

01:02:07.320 It's not about dehumanizing the person.

01:02:10.320 Mm.

01:02:11.320 It's about being frustrated with them, frustrated with the untruth.

01:02:15.320 Yeah, it's about, with me it's always about expecting more.

01:02:19.320 And I realize, I, I don't know if you call it, it's a double-edged sword.

01:02:23.320 I do expect a lot more from, from people who have these platforms and people who have this, this responsibility.

01:02:29.320 I think with great power comes great responsibility.

01:02:31.320 You know, like, in the whole honesty, Spider-Man did have a gigantic impact on my moral framework.

01:02:36.320 You know, because, and that's really what it is, it's a frustration with how you, you don't see that you have an effect on these people.

01:02:45.320 And that these people really do care about you.

01:02:48.320 And that you, you really have a chance to really instill value in these people and let them learn and let them grow. 1.00

01:02:55.320 But instead, you take advantage of that to just spread your propaganda and just spread your bullshit. 1.00

01:03:00.320 Like, to hell with these people who really actually care about you. 1.00

01:03:03.320 You're just using them. 0.98

01:03:04.320 And that, that, that bothers me about it too, you know?

01:03:07.320 The, the, the irony is that these people are all on the political left.

01:03:11.320 And, yeah, I don't know if you watched Captain Planet. Maybe it was before your time.

01:03:16.320 I did, I did, I used to watch Captain Planet a lot. I can't say I remember it, but I did use to catch it.

01:03:22.320 It wasn't very good.

01:03:23.320 But it's, like, the whole environmental mythos is that these evil corporations are just blindly and irresponsibly spreading, like, they, they invent a brand new chemical that does something kind of useful.

01:03:40.320 And then without any testing, without any, you know, well, how will this interact with organic cells, etc. 0.97

01:03:49.320 They just spread it all over the fucking planet. 0.98

01:03:52.320 You know, because there's a buck to be made. 1.00

01:03:55.320 And, you know, there is some truth to that.

01:03:59.320 The, listen, the environmental movement from the 60s, 70s.

01:04:03.320 You know, I, I've read some of the case law.

01:04:06.320 That's something I can get behind.

01:04:08.320 It, it, it infuriates me as a capitalist that these short-sighted CEOs allowed it to come to the point where we needed lobby groups. 1.00

01:04:19.320 You bloody idiots, you irresponsible fools. 1.00

01:04:24.320 But that, that's sort of what these people are doing. 1.00

01:04:26.320 Is they're glomming on to an idea, e.g. rape culture.

01:04:32.320 Mm-hmm.

01:04:33.320 And they're spreading it with absolutely no concern about the, the men that will be falsely accused.

01:04:40.320 Yeah.

01:04:41.320 The, the, what will happen to fraternities.

01:04:44.320 And they have to talk about the little boys, too, the children that get raised up. 0.98

01:04:48.320 I mean, what kind of dumb phrases teach boys not to rape? 0.98

01:04:52.320 Like, like, like, children, I mean, look, I mean, like, we were all children. 0.98

01:04:58.320 So you have to, like, on some level, what gets me is how some people don't understand the psychology of children.

01:05:04.320 Like, you were a kid at some point.

01:05:06.320 You have to, there, there has to be some part of you that remembers that, right?

01:05:09.320 You know, you, you don't ever instill in a child that their predispos-, their predisposition is to hurt people.

01:05:16.320 Because that causes them to hate themselves.

01:05:18.320 Like, most men, most boys, they don't want to hurt women.

01:05:20.320 They don't want to hurt anybody.

01:05:22.320 But if you tell them that they have this innate nature, they just end up hating themselves.

01:05:26.320 And you can't teach a child that he has the potential to just go around and hurt the people he loves the most.

01:05:32.320 Because that's not even his innate desire.

01:05:35.320 You know?

01:05:36.320 And this is so absolutely toxic with boys, especially.

01:05:40.320 Now, I don't know if you're an uncle yet, but...

01:05:43.320 I don't know what that is, but...

01:05:45.320 An uncle?

01:05:46.320 Oh, an uncle yet.

01:05:47.320 No, no, I'm not an uncle yet, no.

01:05:49.320 I thought you said uncle yet.

01:05:51.320 But no, I'm not an uncle yet.

01:05:55.320 Here's the thing about kids.

01:05:57.320 Little girls have all the confidence in the world.

01:06:02.320 This is genetically programmed into our species.

01:06:07.320 Little girls just know how valuable they are.

01:06:15.320 Whereas little boys are very shy and nervous and fragile.

01:06:23.320 A little boy needs to be challenged to be a man, but very gently and responsibly.

01:06:30.320 Yeah.

01:06:32.320 A girl knows that nothing bad is going to happen to her.

01:06:38.320 Maybe that's just contemporary child-rearing calls. I don't know.

01:06:41.320 But, when you target little boys, little boys are so desperate to seek approval.

01:06:50.320 Yes.

01:06:51.320 You know, even from, like, infancy, baby girls will cry more than baby boys.

01:06:58.320 Because a baby boy that cries too much gets thrown out.

01:07:02.320 Gets tossed into Moloch's arms.

01:07:04.320 Yeah.

01:07:05.320 Because, actually, like, if you pay attention to, like, the way boys go out and seek attention.

01:07:11.320 Like, boys don't ever actually just seek attention.

01:07:13.320 You know, they seek admiration for doing something worthwhile.

01:07:17.320 Yeah.

01:07:18.320 You know, that's what a lot of boys seek out is, you know, being told that they meant something

01:07:23.320 or that what they do means something to somebody else.

01:07:26.320 And they never really, like, need a gigantic show.

01:07:29.320 But that does happen if you don't get that, you know, like, from your father.

01:07:32.320 You know, going back to how your father plays a huge role in your life.

01:07:35.320 You know what?

01:07:36.320 Go ahead.

01:07:37.320 Yeah.

01:07:38.320 If you don't have a father, you wind up trying to seek the attention of other boys.

01:07:41.320 Mm-hmm.

01:07:42.320 Absolutely.

01:07:43.320 And the elder...

01:07:44.320 What kind of older boy hangs out with the younger boy?

01:07:47.320 The criminals.

01:07:48.320 Exactly.

01:07:49.320 Yeah.

01:07:50.320 So they encourage you to do criminal behavior to prove that you're a real man

01:07:53.320 wind up setting something on fire or selling drugs for a living.

01:07:57.320 And they blame this on...

01:07:58.320 No, the problem is not masculinity.

01:08:00.320 The problem is a deficit of masculinity that you engineered.

01:08:05.320 Yes.

01:08:06.320 Toxic masculinity is a symptom of feminism. 1.00

01:08:14.320 And you want to tell these little boys that they're all rapists? 1.00

01:08:20.320 Absolute monsters. 0.99

01:08:22.320 Exactly. 0.53

01:08:23.320 It's despicable to me.

01:08:24.320 What are the environmental consequences of your ideology?

01:08:29.320 And sometimes I kind of have to wonder, like, what exactly do they hope to gain?

01:08:35.320 You know?

01:08:36.320 Like...

01:08:37.320 Because I say this on my channel all the time.

01:08:39.320 Like, not every feminist is a bad person. 1.00

01:08:41.320 Like, a lot of feminists that I've noticed... 1.00

01:08:43.320 Well, I won't say a lot, but some of them are really egalitarians that just call themselves

01:08:47.320 feminists. 0.94

01:08:48.320 You know, if you talk to them, they figure it out.

01:08:50.320 You know what?

01:08:51.320 There's even the occasional Democrat that gets the charity.

01:08:55.320 Yeah.

01:08:56.320 Yeah.

01:08:57.320 Yeah.

01:08:58.320 Yeah.

01:08:59.320 But, um...

01:09:00.320 Yeah.

01:09:01.320 Some of these...

01:09:02.320 They're not...

01:09:03.320 They're not...

01:09:04.320 And I have to acknowledge that.

01:09:05.320 I know everybody.

01:09:06.320 You can't really say everyone is bad.

01:09:08.320 And I do want to stress that as a point on my channel, too.

01:09:10.320 Is you gotta treat different people differently.

01:09:13.320 You know?

01:09:14.320 But the feminists who do preach this propaganda, you know? 1.00

01:09:17.320 Specifically them.

01:09:18.320 I...

01:09:19.320 I don't understand what makes them think that they're going to help anybody else. 0.99

01:09:23.320 Like, either they're contested and ignorant on how children think, or they're just evil. 0.98

01:09:28.320 You know? 0.99

01:09:29.320 There's no other way to put it.

01:09:30.320 There's no other way to put it.

01:09:31.320 They're just evil to want to tell a child that their predisposition is to hurt other people.

01:09:37.320 You know what?

01:09:38.320 My...

01:09:39.320 Good lord.

01:09:40.320 My only response to that is...

01:09:44.320 You know what?

01:09:49.320 And this is going to happen to you.

01:09:51.320 And it's probably...

01:09:52.320 If it hasn't already, it's going to happen to a lot of people listening.

01:09:55.320 You are going to meet evil one day. 0.98

01:09:58.320 And it is both pathetic and sad, while also terrifying and dangerous. 0.99

01:10:07.320 You know what? 0.99

01:10:09.320 When you look at what a feminist does... 1.00

01:10:11.320 And again, a typical...

01:10:13.320 Take a Gail Dines or Anita Sarkeesian.

01:10:16.320 When you look at what they do with their lives.

01:10:19.320 Where they head.

01:10:21.320 What their results are.

01:10:23.320 It's...

01:10:26.320 Completely...

01:10:27.320 It's pointless.

01:10:28.320 I mean, like right now, Anita's making a few bucks, right? 0.59

01:10:33.320 But...

01:10:34.320 You know, what's the cost of that?

01:10:36.320 What's the world she's creating? 0.99

01:10:38.320 Is she creating a world where Anita Sarkeesian is happy and secure in her life? 0.99

01:10:43.320 Or is Anita Sarkeesian creating a very unstable and dangerous world where she has millions of enemies? 1.00

01:10:52.320 Evil doesn't make sense, and that's what's so terrifying about it. 0.99

01:10:59.320 It's sad and broken and pathetic. 0.94

01:11:02.320 But also, very, very dangerous to everyone around it. 0.98

01:11:07.320 And nobody wants to believe in evil.

01:11:11.320 Do you know that line from every sci-fi horror movie about vampires?

01:11:20.320 Where the vampire hunter says that no one would believe me if I told them?

01:11:24.320 Yeah.

01:11:25.320 You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

01:11:28.320 I used to think that was nonsense.

01:11:31.320 But it is absolutely true. 0.86

01:11:34.320 Nobody will believe you.

01:11:37.320 And if you start to show them evidence, if you start to show them the evil in the world, they will run away.

01:11:47.320 They will block it from their mind. 1.00

01:11:49.320 They will alter their own goddamn memories. 1.00

01:11:52.320 Just to avoid acknowledging the existence of this. 0.99

01:11:56.320 Because when you meet...

01:11:57.320 I'm not even talking about meeting the demonic.

01:12:00.320 I'm just talking about meeting a person that is so wrapped up in being evil that is such a narcissist or such a borderline.

01:12:08.320 That what they do is completely inexplicable.

01:12:12.320 Yeah.

01:12:13.320 Like, the sort of person that will...

01:12:17.320 Just, for example, they would pour lighter fluid on their own leg and light it on fire.

01:12:24.320 Just so they could phone the cops on you.

01:12:26.320 Because you forgot their birthday.

01:12:28.320 Yeah.

01:12:29.320 That's terrifying.

01:12:30.320 I agree with you on that.

01:12:32.320 Nobody wants to believe that exists.

01:12:34.320 But it does.

01:12:36.320 That's the crazy...

01:12:37.320 It does.

01:12:38.320 There are people...

01:12:39.320 I saw a video the other day of a woman literally, like, almost jumped out of the car.

01:12:45.320 And then was like, why did you throw me out?

01:12:47.320 Like, why did you, like, do this to me?

01:12:49.320 And the guy had it on camera.

01:12:50.320 Like, he's recording.

01:12:51.320 He's like, look, I didn't touch him.

01:12:52.320 Like, there are people who will legitimately do that.

01:12:55.320 It's...

01:12:56.320 And you're right.

01:12:57.320 It is terrifying.

01:12:58.320 It's scary.

01:12:59.320 That almost exactly happened to...

01:13:00.320 I saw that video as well.

01:13:02.320 Um...

01:13:03.320 Aaron Clary had almost that exact scenario.

01:13:05.320 Where...

01:13:06.320 A woman was threatening to throw herself out of the passenger seat on the highway. 1.00

01:13:11.320 Because he didn't offer to buy her a Slurpee at the gas station. 1.00

01:13:16.320 Damn. 0.99

01:13:17.320 When he... 1.00

01:13:18.320 He would have been happy to buy her one if she'd asked.

01:13:21.320 Like, the depth of evil does exist.

01:13:32.320 And it is just so horrifying that...

01:13:34.320 We want easy evil.

01:13:39.320 We want understandable evil. 0.95

01:13:41.320 You know, we want the Nazis. 0.98

01:13:42.320 We want the Red Skull. 0.91

01:13:44.320 Yeah.

01:13:45.320 We want cartoon villains.

01:13:47.320 We want Eva. 0.81

01:13:52.320 So, it's all around us and...

01:13:57.320 Now...

01:13:58.320 This is an interesting thing.

01:13:59.320 Uh...

01:14:00.320 Corny commented to me that, uh...

01:14:02.320 He thinks that there's a lot of...

01:14:08.320 the Manosphere is very dark.

01:14:13.320 The people in the Manosphere...

01:14:14.320 Anasphere.

01:14:16.240 You, me, him, etc.

01:14:19.320 We are very

01:14:20.280 aware of darkness. I think it goes for

01:14:22.140 most of the subscribers

01:14:24.240 on here. These are people that are aware of darkness.

01:14:28.800 This is something I've

01:14:30.100 found speaking to priests.

01:14:34.080 I'm not talking about

01:14:36.100 your BS priest.

01:14:39.120 Hey, whatever feels good, 0.91

01:14:40.680 give me money.

01:14:42.220 Profits be with you.

01:14:43.380 You know, I'm talking

01:14:45.340 like real legitimate priests that I have respect

01:14:47.360 for, that I've seen perform good acts,

01:14:51.360 are

01:14:51.600 downright

01:14:52.180 terrified

01:14:54.300 of evil.

01:14:58.220 Do you have any thoughts on that?

01:15:01.400 Because you're not terrified

01:15:03.220 of evil. I mean, you are, but

01:15:04.860 as much as I am, I'm bloody terrified

01:15:07.620 by it.

01:15:09.760 I mean, yeah.

01:15:11.240 Honestly,

01:15:11.760 one of my favorite scriptures

01:15:14.220 in the Bible is, you know,

01:15:16.140 do not treat evil for evil,

01:15:18.640 but defeat evil with good.

01:15:20.520 I think

01:15:20.880 Romans is probably my favorite book in the Bible.

01:15:23.940 Romans, Matthew,

01:15:25.380 both my favorite books in the Bible.

01:15:27.240 But

01:15:27.480 it's that scripture right there.

01:15:29.520 You have to be evil with good.

01:15:30.880 And, uh, that's what I try to do

01:15:33.180 with, uh,

01:15:34.040 with honesty

01:15:34.860 and being straightforward.

01:15:37.300 Because that's the only way,

01:15:38.580 that's the only way you can combat evil.

01:15:40.540 You gotta face it down.

01:15:44.200 Yeah, we don't

01:15:45.180 defeat social justice warriors with hate.

01:15:47.280 We defeat them with love.

01:15:48.740 Yeah.

01:15:49.840 Because, and I think

01:15:50.960 one interesting thing

01:15:52.100 that I always say is, um,

01:15:54.520 especially when it comes to, like, 0.87

01:15:55.560 the slut-shaming videos 0.60

01:15:57.080 is when people will say, 0.98

01:15:58.400 you know, uh,

01:15:59.340 you're misogynistic 0.99

01:16:00.720 or you hate women. 0.98

01:16:01.760 And, like, well, 0.85

01:16:02.500 well, think about it for a second,

01:16:03.820 you know,

01:16:04.000 while you're calling me a misogynist.

01:16:05.780 If I think you're doing something wrong

01:16:07.960 and I say,

01:16:09.100 maybe you shouldn't do that,

01:16:11.000 explain to me how I hate you.

01:16:12.980 You know, like,

01:16:14.040 I evidently have to care about you

01:16:16.080 on some level

01:16:16.860 if I don't think you should do something

01:16:18.640 that I think is detrimental to you.

01:16:20.680 And that's not me saying

01:16:21.700 that you can't do it.

01:16:22.840 I mean, physically you can.

01:16:24.340 But maybe you should think about it.

01:16:25.800 And I think that's,

01:16:26.960 you know,

01:16:27.220 that's the best way to go about it.

01:16:29.520 Instead of, you know,

01:16:30.260 you can't really tell people

01:16:31.480 what they can and can't do

01:16:32.500 because physically they can.

01:16:34.260 It's more about giving them the option.

01:16:35.920 It's more about telling them

01:16:36.820 that they can choose

01:16:38.080 what they want to do.

01:16:39.520 But you gotta think about

01:16:40.560 the consequences.

01:16:41.500 And I don't think a lot of,

01:16:42.500 uh,

01:16:43.120 a lot of these feminists 1.00

01:16:43.980 and social justice warriors

01:16:44.900 want to even acknowledge

01:16:46.520 the consequence.

01:16:47.440 I think that terrifies them

01:16:48.980 a lot more

01:16:49.900 than the act itself.

01:16:50.960 You know,

01:16:52.000 the mere fact that

01:16:52.680 you even have to face something

01:16:54.680 happening to you

01:16:55.740 is why they try to avoid it

01:16:57.500 or why they say

01:16:58.200 I hate them

01:16:58.700 or something like that. 0.55

01:16:59.900 Well, you know,

01:17:00.640 that I think perfectly sums up

01:17:02.400 everything with,

01:17:04.180 um,

01:17:05.220 with the left,

01:17:06.020 with the social justice,

01:17:07.300 with the,

01:17:08.440 I don't know,

01:17:08.900 to be melodramatic,

01:17:11.240 the enemies of God, 0.95

01:17:12.640 is that they,

01:17:13.680 they want to deny

01:17:15.940 consequences.

01:17:17.320 you know,

01:17:18.740 I,

01:17:18.880 I wish I could remember

01:17:20.140 who wrote this,

01:17:21.500 but somebody said that

01:17:22.820 God never punishes you.

01:17:24.960 God warns you

01:17:26.900 about the consequences

01:17:28.860 of your actions,

01:17:30.100 but God never punishes you.

01:17:33.600 You know,

01:17:34.280 God's the one 0.83

01:17:35.640 trying to save you

01:17:36.940 for crying out loud.

01:17:38.440 You know,

01:17:38.680 he's the one trying to say

01:17:39.480 that,

01:17:39.740 listen,

01:17:40.660 if you do this,

01:17:41.920 there will be consequences.

01:17:44.180 Please don't.

01:17:45.140 I didn't think about that.

01:17:49.220 And the whole,

01:17:50.600 the whole leftist paradigm

01:17:52.960 is this world

01:17:54.320 without consequences.

01:17:56.740 You know,

01:17:57.360 where you get to

01:17:58.300 have as much 0.99

01:18:00.140 bizarre sex 1.00

01:18:01.300 as you want 0.99

01:18:01.940 with as many partners

01:18:03.680 as you want

01:18:04.300 and you never,

01:18:06.480 your future

01:18:08.020 wife or husband

01:18:10.560 does not judge you

01:18:12.140 based upon your past behavior.

01:18:13.480 You know,

01:18:18.760 this world where

01:18:19.820 you get a completely

01:18:20.860 useless degree 0.81

01:18:21.660 and yet you still 0.99

01:18:23.600 get a job

01:18:24.660 paying,

01:18:25.980 you know,

01:18:26.500 the,

01:18:26.660 the high

01:18:27.940 five figures.

01:18:33.680 They reject the consequences

01:18:35.420 of their behavior.

01:18:37.980 You know,

01:18:38.800 don't tell kids

01:18:40.920 not to play in the street.

01:18:41.960 You tell the street

01:18:42.820 not to run over kids

01:18:43.960 that play there.

01:18:45.040 Yeah,

01:18:45.560 yeah,

01:18:45.900 and,

01:18:46.300 and,

01:18:46.600 and that makes sense

01:18:47.620 to them.

01:18:48.420 That makes sense

01:18:49.420 somehow.

01:18:50.100 I,

01:18:50.120 I,

01:18:50.780 I don't know.

01:18:51.960 It's really crazy to me.

01:18:54.880 Yeah.

01:18:55.940 And I think,

01:18:56.800 you know,

01:18:57.000 the interesting thing

01:18:58.040 about that is,

01:18:58.840 you know,

01:18:59.140 nobody,

01:19:00.640 I think it was you

01:19:01.340 who said it

01:19:01.920 in one of your videos

01:19:03.200 on evil,

01:19:03.680 you know,

01:19:03.860 it was,

01:19:04.380 you know,

01:19:05.060 a lot of people

01:19:05.720 are really seeking

01:19:06.460 good things.

01:19:07.680 You know,

01:19:07.880 evil's just going

01:19:08.560 about it in the wrong way.

01:19:09.700 And I think,

01:19:11.260 in a certain extent,

01:19:12.260 I'm sure a lot of them,

01:19:13.060 they really want to do

01:19:13.980 good things.

01:19:15.680 I,

01:19:15.880 I,

01:19:16.500 for the record,

01:19:17.120 I miss that naivete.

01:19:20.020 I really wish

01:19:21.180 most evil

01:19:21.800 was good people

01:19:22.820 seeking after

01:19:24.000 good things

01:19:24.680 in a bad way.

01:19:26.320 I'm not,

01:19:26.720 I didn't say

01:19:27.080 they're good people,

01:19:27.820 but I mean,

01:19:28.120 they're seeking after

01:19:28.780 something good,

01:19:29.800 or at least

01:19:30.040 they think

01:19:30.380 it's good.

01:19:33.700 Yeah.

01:19:34.140 One of the things

01:19:38.500 I've,

01:19:38.880 one of the things

01:19:40.560 I've begun to notice

01:19:41.500 is how crime

01:19:43.820 demands to be punished.

01:19:48.720 Where,

01:19:49.960 like,

01:19:51.200 listen,

01:19:51.460 if you and I,

01:19:53.060 now I am,

01:19:53.700 I'm certain

01:19:54.360 that,

01:19:55.060 that you,

01:19:55.600 everybody,

01:19:56.420 listen,

01:19:56.780 we've all had the

01:19:57.640 conversation about

01:19:58.560 how I would rob

01:19:59.740 a bank.

01:20:01.960 Or,

01:20:02.480 or what have you.

01:20:03.220 We've all discussed

01:20:04.060 committing a crime

01:20:04.960 in an intelligent way

01:20:07.080 where we profit

01:20:08.460 from the whole thing.

01:20:12.300 But that's not

01:20:13.320 why criminals

01:20:14.260 commit crimes.

01:20:15.620 It's not because

01:20:16.760 they think

01:20:17.260 they could profit.

01:20:18.700 Ultimately,

01:20:19.800 none of us

01:20:20.560 robbed that bank,

01:20:22.480 even though we had

01:20:23.160 the perfect getaway car

01:20:24.360 and the perfect plan,

01:20:25.680 et cetera.

01:20:27.360 None of us

01:20:28.060 did that,

01:20:29.120 not just because

01:20:31.700 we would be punished,

01:20:33.140 but because it's not

01:20:33.940 what we do.

01:20:34.960 We're not dishonest people.

01:20:38.760 The recent episode,

01:20:40.300 Better Call Saul,

01:20:41.840 really illustrated

01:20:43.040 how the,

01:20:43.760 the con artist

01:20:45.060 does it

01:20:46.840 because it's

01:20:47.240 what they do.

01:20:48.420 They like creating

01:20:49.540 elaborate fiction

01:20:50.500 that are,

01:20:51.080 that are false.

01:20:52.420 criminals are demanding

01:21:02.620 to be caught.

01:21:05.040 You know,

01:21:05.440 they don't just

01:21:06.000 commit a couple

01:21:06.720 of crimes intelligently.

01:21:08.200 They eventually

01:21:09.000 need to commit 1.00

01:21:09.700 the stupid crime. 1.00

01:21:17.520 And honestly, 1.00

01:21:18.240 that's something

01:21:18.560 I really see

01:21:19.300 with Sarkeesian.

01:21:24.040 It wasn't enough

01:21:25.060 just to make

01:21:25.820 a whole bunch

01:21:27.060 of banks

01:21:27.620 making a bunch

01:21:29.400 of videos

01:21:30.040 a la,

01:21:30.740 in Lindsay Ellis.

01:21:32.980 She needed

01:21:33.680 to become

01:21:33.960 a consultant

01:21:34.580 for

01:21:35.160 whichever

01:21:37.000 processor company

01:21:38.140 it was.

01:21:39.540 Totally,

01:21:39.920 I think it was Intel?

01:21:40.820 Yeah.

01:21:41.000 Yeah, Intel.

01:21:48.080 There's,

01:21:48.400 there's an ugly

01:21:49.060 insanity to evil.

01:21:52.460 There's a,

01:21:53.620 a complete,

01:21:54.460 like,

01:21:54.700 it's not just

01:21:55.380 trying to

01:21:56.640 get what you want

01:21:58.020 through the wrong

01:21:58.860 methods.

01:22:01.420 Eventually,

01:22:02.060 it becomes,

01:22:03.280 this is exactly

01:22:04.960 what you wanted

01:22:05.540 the entire time.

01:22:11.000 you wanted

01:22:15.820 prison,

01:22:16.240 you wanted

01:22:16.640 your name

01:22:17.040 to be dragged

01:22:17.520 through the mud.

01:22:18.140 You wanted

01:22:18.640 all of these

01:22:21.380 things.

01:22:25.240 Kind of a

01:22:26.100 economic reveal

01:22:27.240 preference

01:22:27.780 sort of a thing.

01:22:31.140 Gotcha.

01:22:33.760 Anyway,

01:22:34.040 let's,

01:22:34.480 um,

01:22:35.100 shift gears

01:22:35.780 a little bit.

01:22:37.040 Uh,

01:22:38.560 why the hell 0.81

01:22:39.140 are you and I 0.65

01:22:40.020 making bank

01:22:45.860 being let's

01:22:46.640 play

01:22:47.120 wizards

01:22:48.520 and critiquing

01:22:51.380 pop?

01:22:51.700 Why,

01:22:51.860 why the hell

01:22:52.480 are we?

01:22:55.080 Well,

01:22:55.680 well,

01:22:55.840 the simple answer

01:22:56.580 is because 1.00

01:22:57.040 we give a fuck 0.99

01:22:58.160 about people. 0.99

01:22:58.920 That's,

01:22:59.600 that's why.

01:23:01.040 Yeah,

01:23:01.500 it's,

01:23:02.420 and it's,

01:23:03.060 it's not about

01:23:04.000 just indulging,

01:23:05.600 you know,

01:23:06.440 ourselves.

01:23:07.040 It's about actually

01:23:07.740 producing content

01:23:08.980 that does

01:23:09.720 something for

01:23:10.280 other people.

01:23:12.180 Yeah.

01:23:13.460 Not to

01:23:13.900 stroke my own

01:23:14.400 ego,

01:23:14.760 but I mean,

01:23:15.200 that,

01:23:15.440 that's what I

01:23:15.840 try to do

01:23:16.380 is give them

01:23:17.240 something to

01:23:17.780 work with

01:23:18.260 or something

01:23:19.180 that'll help

01:23:20.060 them.

01:23:21.980 Yeah.

01:23:23.260 As opposed to,

01:23:24.220 uh,

01:23:24.460 I guess a lot

01:23:25.020 of these different

01:23:25.520 narcissistic people

01:23:26.740 I've seen on YouTube

01:23:27.380 all the time.

01:23:30.240 Go on.

01:23:32.000 Gosh.

01:23:33.660 Man,

01:23:34.340 uh,

01:23:34.920 I,

01:23:35.740 but anyway,

01:23:36.440 let's not name names.

01:23:37.700 Let's,

01:23:38.480 yeah,

01:23:38.860 we'll have to name names,

01:23:40.320 but it's way easier

01:23:41.360 to criticize people

01:23:42.280 without targeting them

01:23:43.320 specifically.

01:23:44.660 Yeah,

01:23:45.020 but I mean,

01:23:45.420 there's a plethora

01:23:46.260 to choose from,

01:23:46.960 but let's,

01:23:47.300 you don't have to.

01:23:48.360 The,

01:23:48.520 the,

01:23:48.740 one gigantic problem

01:23:50.280 that I really see

01:23:51.620 with these people,

01:23:52.560 these bloggers,

01:23:53.260 is that ultimately

01:23:54.940 a lot of them

01:23:56.300 are actually

01:23:56.960 very sad people

01:23:58.460 and they'll even

01:24:00.060 make videos

01:24:00.800 and they'll admit

01:24:01.900 to being depressed,

01:24:02.980 they'll admit to being sad,

01:24:04.320 they'll admit to

01:24:05.100 having all these

01:24:06.120 different kinds

01:24:06.680 of deficits

01:24:07.260 and yet

01:24:08.260 they have this platform

01:24:09.900 where they just have

01:24:10.540 people feeding their egos

01:24:12.080 and just feeding that shell

01:24:13.540 that we were talking about earlier

01:24:14.460 and just feeding that

01:24:15.380 and it's just not

01:24:16.780 conducive to anything

01:24:18.420 and it's just not

01:24:19.660 going to help

01:24:20.380 these people in the long run.

01:24:21.480 What they need

01:24:22.320 is to be challenged

01:24:23.740 with the need

01:24:24.420 is to actually

01:24:24.960 work through the problems

01:24:25.900 and if they want to keep

01:24:26.820 making their comments

01:24:27.440 that's fine,

01:24:28.520 but to continue

01:24:29.660 to feed off of that,

01:24:31.000 that,

01:24:31.340 that's the ultimate problem

01:24:32.600 with a narcissist

01:24:33.320 and an egotistical person 0.55

01:24:35.280 and that's what I see

01:24:36.440 in a lot of these

01:24:37.240 different bloggers,

01:24:38.020 they're,

01:24:38.320 they're so sad,

01:24:39.600 they're so depressed

01:24:40.520 and there's just

01:24:41.620 a lot of people

01:24:42.620 who are just so sad

01:24:44.160 and they just get

01:24:44.900 this massive platform

01:24:46.060 to just indulge themselves

01:24:48.120 in the attention

01:24:48.900 I guess

01:24:49.220 they never got

01:24:49.800 when they're younger.

01:24:51.800 Yes,

01:24:52.080 one huge problem

01:24:53.220 I see happening here.

01:24:54.180 You know,

01:24:55.380 I suspect a huge part

01:24:56.560 of it

01:24:56.840 is that

01:24:58.420 people want to see

01:25:01.680 other people

01:25:02.100 being miserable.

01:25:05.500 Isn't that exactly

01:25:07.260 what reality TV is?

01:25:09.200 Yeah,

01:25:09.760 yeah,

01:25:10.780 yeah.

01:25:12.780 That's why,

01:25:13.520 that's why I'm watching.

01:25:14.600 I can't stand reality TV.

01:25:16.260 Like,

01:25:16.520 actually,

01:25:17.060 I think one of my,

01:25:18.400 my philosophy professor

01:25:20.320 put it best.

01:25:21.840 He said,

01:25:22.280 one day one of my friends

01:25:23.500 told me,

01:25:23.960 we go watch

01:25:24.580 Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

01:25:26.580 So he said,

01:25:27.040 I caught it on

01:25:27.600 and I watched it

01:25:28.380 and I said,

01:25:29.600 thank God

01:25:30.240 these people have money.

01:25:32.060 So he sat there

01:25:32.740 and he said,

01:25:33.100 now,

01:25:33.260 now,

01:25:33.520 why would I possibly

01:25:34.320 say that?

01:25:35.280 He said,

01:25:35.600 because these people 1.00

01:25:36.420 are absolutely miserable. 0.99

01:25:38.720 Thank God 0.98

01:25:39.480 they have money

01:25:40.260 because their lives

01:25:41.600 are terrible

01:25:42.300 and he's exactly

01:25:43.540 why I'm there.

01:25:44.360 These people 0.99

01:25:44.960 are miserable 1.00

01:25:45.980 and they have

01:25:47.140 these gigantic platforms

01:25:48.600 to do nothing

01:25:49.700 but feed their narcissism. 0.87

01:25:51.900 And it's just terrible

01:25:52.960 to me,

01:25:53.420 you know,

01:25:53.640 that nobody

01:25:54.740 affirms them

01:25:56.100 and really tells them

01:25:57.020 that,

01:25:57.280 you know,

01:25:57.540 look,

01:25:57.860 listen,

01:25:58.180 you don't have to 0.98

01:25:58.840 make a fool out of yourself 0.98

01:25:59.900 and exploit your life. 1.00

01:26:01.500 You know,

01:26:01.760 you need to fix your problems

01:26:03.000 and if you want to keep,

01:26:04.000 you know,

01:26:04.780 doing the comedy videos,

01:26:05.860 that's perfectly fine

01:26:06.740 but you can't feed off that,

01:26:08.360 you know?

01:26:08.640 there's nothing wrong 0.97

01:26:11.080 with being a clown. 0.97

01:26:12.620 Yeah.

01:26:13.580 You know,

01:26:13.960 but don't 0.96

01:26:15.280 live like a clown.

01:26:18.500 Putting on an outfit 0.97

01:26:19.460 and making people laugh,

01:26:20.560 that's,

01:26:20.880 that's honorable,

01:26:21.620 that's good,

01:26:22.220 that's fine.

01:26:23.900 Yeah.

01:26:30.420 That's brilliant though.

01:26:31.560 Thank God

01:26:32.000 these people have money 0.99

01:26:32.860 because they fucking need it. 0.99

01:26:38.640 Yeah. 0.99

01:26:41.160 The sad thing is

01:26:42.140 that people are aspiring

01:26:43.100 to be that these days.

01:26:44.880 Yeah.

01:26:46.200 And,

01:26:46.640 and you can,

01:26:47.280 you can see the misery

01:26:48.380 in their lives

01:26:49.140 and it's just,

01:26:50.820 it's just a really sad thing to me,

01:26:52.200 you know?

01:26:53.580 Uh,

01:26:54.660 it's really sad to see.

01:26:56.840 You know,

01:26:57.080 these people are catty, 0.99

01:26:58.480 they're in a bunch of drama

01:26:59.580 and I think one,

01:27:01.120 one of you I saw

01:27:01.900 the other day

01:27:02.700 kind of really put it best to me.

01:27:04.400 Um,

01:27:05.000 so there's,

01:27:05.480 there's this,

01:27:05.940 there's this girl 0.99

01:27:06.500 and it's like Piddle Ass 0.98

01:27:07.720 and she was dating this guy 0.84

01:27:09.700 named Syndicate,

01:27:10.700 right?

01:27:10.980 And they're both vloggers

01:27:11.860 and they both do videos together.

01:27:13.260 And then when they broke up,

01:27:14.660 a bunch of different subscribers

01:27:16.440 in each of their communities,

01:27:17.820 you know,

01:27:18.180 were going back and forth about it.

01:27:19.940 And so Kate made a video

01:27:21.560 where she was talking about,

01:27:22.920 you know,

01:27:23.120 her personal life

01:27:23.860 and what happened.

01:27:24.900 And I was sitting there thinking that,

01:27:26.340 you know,

01:27:26.520 this is,

01:27:27.020 this is the price

01:27:27.960 of when you exploit yourself

01:27:29.480 to get fake.

01:27:31.140 That people be having

01:27:32.300 an invested interest

01:27:33.320 in what you're doing

01:27:34.220 and now you can,

01:27:35.240 you can hardly even have

01:27:36.260 a private life

01:27:36.960 because you spent

01:27:37.640 your entire life

01:27:38.600 just airing about

01:27:39.420 your personal details

01:27:40.460 to a bunch of people

01:27:41.620 you've never even met.

01:27:43.140 You know,

01:27:43.280 you might see something

01:27:43.980 like VidCon,

01:27:44.880 but I mean,

01:27:45.360 it's millions of people

01:27:46.360 and you're just,

01:27:46.760 you're just exploiting

01:27:47.520 your own problems,

01:27:48.920 you know,

01:27:49.200 for what?

01:27:50.200 It's not to fix them,

01:27:51.360 it's just,

01:27:52.040 you know,

01:27:52.240 you get this platform

01:27:53.060 and I think it's terrible

01:27:55.440 that this is what

01:27:56.800 people aspire to be.

01:27:57.880 You know,

01:27:58.060 these are like,

01:27:59.380 you know,

01:27:59.600 these are role models

01:28:00.500 and they're not role models.

01:28:01.780 They're not people

01:28:02.320 who fix their problems.

01:28:03.940 They're people

01:28:04.480 who indulge

01:28:05.980 in their problems

01:28:06.840 or I don't know,

01:28:08.260 I guess,

01:28:08.720 you know,

01:28:08.940 because it just,

01:28:09.960 it tries to fill in a void

01:28:11.000 of a deficit

01:28:11.560 that they very fully have

01:28:13.080 but nobody wants

01:28:14.300 to address.

01:28:17.360 Yeah,

01:28:17.900 the,

01:28:18.300 the,

01:28:18.900 voyeuristic society.

01:28:23.040 Yeah,

01:28:23.540 I saw this

01:28:24.220 cartoon picture

01:28:25.680 which,

01:28:28.160 it was like the,

01:28:29.020 it was supposed to be

01:28:29.680 this cartoon

01:28:30.960 of the United States

01:28:32.080 where you had like

01:28:33.780 soldiers on the outside

01:28:35.180 facing outwards

01:28:36.240 and then police

01:28:36.960 facing inwards

01:28:37.920 and then the American

01:28:38.880 family in the middle

01:28:39.860 and they're just

01:28:40.640 watching the boob tube.

01:28:41.900 but it's,

01:28:45.940 you know,

01:28:46.300 they,

01:28:46.480 they,

01:28:46.600 they act like

01:28:47.660 the,

01:28:47.920 the boob tube

01:28:48.840 is addicting you,

01:28:51.000 like it's tricking you 1.00

01:28:52.520 into watching this garbage. 0.99

01:28:54.700 but with the internet, 0.99

01:28:57.940 like with the,

01:28:59.620 we are seeing

01:29:00.660 the agency

01:29:01.680 every time

01:29:02.900 one of these

01:29:03.740 SJWs 1.00

01:29:04.920 sends an angry tweet

01:29:06.080 to you or me,

01:29:07.620 we are seeing

01:29:08.660 the agency

01:29:09.560 of voluntarily,

01:29:12.460 not just voluntarily

01:29:13.740 watching the boob tube

01:29:14.840 but eagerly

01:29:16.160 participating

01:29:16.480 participating

01:29:17.240 in that reality.

01:29:25.820 You know,

01:29:26.440 if God is very kind,

01:29:28.240 there's going to be

01:29:28.840 a great culling

01:29:29.740 of the human race

01:29:30.960 where all 0.85

01:29:32.960 of the narcissists

01:29:33.880 just won't have children.

01:29:42.360 I don't think

01:29:43.120 he's going to be

01:29:43.460 that kind

01:29:44.020 but that would,

01:29:44.820 that would,

01:29:45.340 that would certainly

01:29:46.300 be a utopia,

01:29:47.340 wouldn't it?

01:29:49.240 That would be amazing.

01:29:51.220 If,

01:29:51.500 if everybody that

01:29:52.560 obsessed over

01:29:53.780 human drama

01:29:54.560 on the internet,

01:29:57.280 yeah,

01:29:57.580 as opposed to ideas,

01:29:58.560 as opposed to philosophy,

01:29:59.720 as opposed to whatever,

01:30:02.480 if all those people

01:30:03.420 just stopped

01:30:03.900 having babies

01:30:04.800 and they,

01:30:05.580 they just,

01:30:08.800 I don't know,

01:30:09.400 I don't know

01:30:09.840 what they'd have to do.

01:30:10.640 Just,

01:30:10.920 we'll do something else.

01:30:11.960 I don't know.

01:30:12.620 Do you know what

01:30:13.140 there'll be

01:30:13.500 in,

01:30:13.920 in future

01:30:14.720 versions of Dungeons

01:30:16.280 and Dragons

01:30:16.840 and they'll be

01:30:17.760 the,

01:30:17.960 the dead-eyed

01:30:18.660 ones?

01:30:22.700 CR rating

01:30:23.600 of three.

01:30:28.800 Anyway,

01:30:29.440 we've been going

01:30:30.240 for a while.

01:30:31.920 Xurus,

01:30:32.240 you got any last

01:30:33.000 thoughts for the

01:30:33.680 folks out there?

01:30:34.400 last thoughts.

01:30:37.540 I don't know.

01:30:38.780 Thanks for,

01:30:39.660 thanks for,

01:30:40.280 you know,

01:30:40.660 listening to us talk.

01:30:42.360 I rather enjoyed

01:30:43.400 speaking with

01:30:44.100 E. Davis

01:30:44.940 and great times.

01:30:47.120 And,

01:30:47.880 I don't know,

01:30:48.880 last thoughts.

01:30:50.620 I enjoyed it.

01:30:52.200 Hopefully,

01:30:52.780 somebody got something

01:30:53.620 out of what we said

01:30:55.100 and hopefully

01:30:56.140 we didn't hurt

01:30:56.680 too many feelings today.

01:30:57.820 you know what,

01:30:59.740 that sets off

01:31:00.380 my last thought

01:31:01.160 is that,

01:31:02.700 listen,

01:31:03.180 everybody listening,

01:31:03.940 you know who you are.

01:31:05.880 You know,

01:31:06.380 if there's a label

01:31:07.400 that you identify with

01:31:10.160 and I made fun

01:31:10.700 of the label,

01:31:12.720 is that you?

01:31:14.880 If it isn't,

01:31:15.700 then I didn't make

01:31:16.280 fun of you.

01:31:18.260 So,

01:31:19.600 final thought,

01:31:21.840 try and minimize

01:31:22.860 the butt hurt.

01:31:25.640 Xur's absolute pleasure

01:31:27.140 and folks,

Leo D.M.J. Aurini - April 24, 2015

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