Leo D.M.J. Aurini - April 24, 2015


Podcast Talking MGTOW with Zerse


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 31 minutes

Words per Minute

161.0838

Word Count

14,736

Sentence Count

1,001

Misogynist Sentences

46

Hate Speech Sentences

61


Summary

In this episode of The Complaints Hour, I'm joined by my good friend Xurs to complain about all the things we hate about computers. We talk about MacOS, Windows 8, and the fact that computers aren't really a computer.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The truth is often stupid.
00:00:22.800 Trust the fuckhead.
00:00:52.800 All on proprietary video codecs and audio issues, and particularly Macintosh.
00:01:00.860 Screw Macintosh, terrible, bloody software company.
00:01:05.380 Like, the only thing that's, like, if it weren't for Macintosh, PC, Microsoft wouldn't be good.
00:01:15.880 Anyway, I've got Xurs here with me tonight, and this is going to be the complaining hour.
00:01:22.740 Welcome to the free-floating hostility hour. How are you doing, Xurs?
00:01:27.520 I'm doing pretty well, actually. A little contradictory.
00:01:31.820 To be honest, I'm alright.
00:01:35.060 It's just, there are some things that certainly mess with me, mess with you, so we can chat about that.
00:01:41.720 We just spent about 40 minutes trying to record this bloody call.
00:01:45.880 Yeah, we actually have, actually.
00:01:49.660 That is not even interesting.
00:01:53.520 That is true.
00:01:54.880 Yeah, I finally had to update MP3 Skype recorder.
00:01:59.460 It's this endless series of updates on software, removing features, you know, adding advertisements,
00:02:06.020 and just being incompatible and contradictory.
00:02:09.980 You know, maybe I'm just an idiot.
00:02:15.000 Okay, like, that is a distinct possibility that I will concede exists.
00:02:20.140 But, you know, I used to run Red Hat Linux.
00:02:24.820 And I only quit because I don't have time for it.
00:02:27.240 I don't have time to try and teach Red Hat how to use Microsoft Word or, like, video editing software.
00:02:36.780 I don't have time for that.
00:02:38.300 You use Sony Vegas to edit videos, right?
00:02:42.520 Yeah, I'm not proud to admit that, but yeah.
00:02:47.140 It's a habit I got into.
00:02:48.820 I know all the shortcuts.
00:02:50.740 And it's honestly a very good program.
00:02:53.460 I mean, I know Adobe Premiere is a professional one, but Sony Vegas does everything I need to do.
00:02:59.860 You know, like, maybe one day I'll graduate to Final Cut when I start doing 3D animations, but...
00:03:05.280 But yeah, trying to teach Linux to do that is...
00:03:11.880 I got to the point where I had to say, you know what, I'm not making any money being a Linux expert.
00:03:17.600 Maybe I should just use Windows.
00:03:22.740 And I don't know how...
00:03:23.940 And Macintosh up Windows on me.
00:03:26.860 Yeah, I honestly personally don't really like Macintosh computers too much.
00:03:30.500 And I don't know, it feels too complicated for no reason, in my opinion.
00:03:35.280 Well, it's like an airport.
00:03:38.240 It's very simple and very complicated.
00:03:40.780 Yeah.
00:03:42.680 I think, like, honestly, like, for some odd reason, I think...
00:03:45.540 I had this conversation with my friends the other day.
00:03:47.080 It's like, for mobile phones, Windows software is absolute garbage, right?
00:03:52.920 But Apple software for their phones is fantastic.
00:03:55.560 The iPhone works pretty well.
00:03:57.760 But when it comes to PC computers and laptops, everyone's like, Macintosh, this sucks.
00:04:03.900 It's complicated.
00:04:05.360 PC, simple.
00:04:06.480 So, I mean, that's, you know, strengths and weaknesses in different companies.
00:04:11.020 Macintosh is what my mom uses.
00:04:12.600 It's perfect for iPhones, because you're not...
00:04:17.380 A phone is not a computer.
00:04:20.320 Okay?
00:04:20.660 And I'm a BlackBerry man.
00:04:22.460 Just for the pure obstinacy of, I demand actually having a keyboard on my computing device.
00:04:29.300 But it's still not a computer.
00:04:31.580 I mean, it is, but you can't...
00:04:33.940 The tiny little screen, the lack of right-click.
00:04:38.400 Right-click is what makes a computer in my...
00:04:41.080 Right-click.
00:04:46.240 You can't write-click, it's not a computer.
00:04:48.400 Yeah, yeah, that's true.
00:04:49.740 I mean, I guess...
00:04:51.520 I mean, simply put, it's not a computer.
00:04:53.960 Not in the truth.
00:04:55.060 It's not a desktop or a laptop.
00:04:56.640 You know, it's just...
00:04:57.920 It is a device that can use, so by definition.
00:05:00.920 But it's not really, like, a personal computer.
00:05:03.880 So I seem to understand.
00:05:05.040 You know what?
00:05:05.840 Trying to do computing on a phone or a Macintosh is like trying to write poetry in Klingon.
00:05:13.060 It's an artificial language that does not have enough adjectives.
00:05:17.880 You know, like, in theory, you can do it.
00:05:20.620 In practice, get a real computer.
00:05:23.000 And honestly, with all the BS, with Windows 8, 8.1, all...
00:05:28.720 And I swear to God, here's the saddest thing.
00:05:32.260 Windows 8 was designed for tablets.
00:05:34.420 Yeah, exactly.
00:05:35.260 8.1 is for adult computers.
00:05:40.240 8 worked better.
00:05:42.500 Yeah, yeah, I did not even upgrade to 8.1.
00:05:46.160 No, and anybody out there, do not upgrade.
00:05:48.700 I used to be able...
00:05:50.660 Like, you have to hit the Windows key.
00:05:53.000 So, you know, you can't install it on anything.
00:05:55.200 You hit the Windows key, then you type, you search for it.
00:05:59.320 On Windows 8, the search would come up immediately.
00:06:02.720 8.1, my computer freezes for about 20, 30 seconds.
00:06:07.820 It's a nightmare.
00:06:10.520 Do not upgrade.
00:06:11.580 Anyway, so this has been the PC Hour with your experts.
00:06:15.140 And, well, thank you very much for being on the show.
00:06:17.820 And I hope you guys learned something.
00:06:19.480 I'm going back to Linux with my next box, if I can, I pray.
00:06:26.140 I'm an ornery old cuss.
00:06:27.660 Get off my lawn.
00:06:28.600 So, I think we were going to talk about the MGTOW movement.
00:06:33.720 Yeah, which is, which, I'm not lying, is a very strange thing to me now.
00:06:38.320 Because, originally, a couple of months ago, I don't know if you ever saw it, but, like, I did a debate with the Manhood Academy.
00:06:44.500 Are you familiar with these guys?
00:06:46.300 Mm, loosely.
00:06:47.980 Now, I got the email, I don't know if it was by them or by somebody that read them, saying I should check out their book.
00:06:55.320 This was about three or four years back, and I took a glance at it.
00:06:59.820 And, like, everything I saw seemed pretty good, but it wasn't really, at that point in my life, it wasn't revolutionary.
00:07:06.840 If I were 24, it probably would have been.
00:07:09.380 But at the time, like, eh, I never really got into it.
00:07:12.740 Okay, I see.
00:07:13.500 So, I'm going to go off your perspective on all this.
00:07:16.840 Yeah, uh, Manhood Academy, you know, the professor is what he calls himself.
00:07:24.620 He's not a stupid guy.
00:07:26.120 I, I, you'll never hear me call him dumb.
00:07:28.160 He's not dumb.
00:07:29.060 Oh, Professor William, yeah, yeah.
00:07:30.760 Very, very abrasive son of a bitch, I will say that.
00:07:35.460 Very abrasive guy, loves to throw out the word faggot.
00:07:40.060 Good person.
00:07:40.440 But, anyway, I remember he, he, like, he made a whole video where he was criticizing MGTOW.
00:07:45.840 Like, this is a couple months ago.
00:07:47.700 And I'm telling you, like, the way, when I see my point of view, you know, the MGTOW community has definitely changed a lot in these last couple months.
00:07:54.220 Because, um, from what I saw there, MGTOW is a lot smaller, and it's just a group of men, you know, you know, really just focusing on themselves, making themselves better.
00:08:03.080 And they just said, we don't want girlfriends, we're going to leave you alone, we're just going to focus on ourselves.
00:08:07.540 And it was that sort of, really, of a concept.
00:08:09.560 When I first saw it, and from what I had seen, anyway, so I went on to debate with the professor, because I love that MGTOW community.
00:08:18.320 I was like, this is fantastic, you know.
00:08:20.020 And I was like, you know, dude, you can't really get upset with these MGTOWs, you know, because they don't want to talk to women.
00:08:25.360 That's their prerogative.
00:08:26.200 And if they got treated badly, you know, let them, you know, have some time to heal, get better.
00:08:30.700 If they never want to date a woman again, that's their prerogative, you know.
00:08:34.220 But, uh, personally, I will say, at first, I actually thought of MGTOW as something more temporary, like, something that you just do for the time being.
00:08:43.160 You know, you just, you know, you say, you work on yourself, you make yourself better, you become financially stable.
00:08:49.240 And then after all of that, you know, you then make the choice, you know, do I want a woman or not, that's all up to you.
00:08:54.960 But as I see it now, and certainly isn't like that now, it has leaned more towards being really vitriolic towards the behavior of women.
00:09:07.040 You know, like, they really, really viciously criticize women.
00:09:11.740 And it sounds really, really better.
00:09:14.520 And this isn't everybody, you know.
00:09:16.240 Like, with every conversation, you kind of have to preface, well, this is not everyone, you know.
00:09:20.560 So, uh, because all MGTOWs, they're different people, but, you know, you can see some similarities in a lot of them.
00:09:26.780 They're very vitriolic people.
00:09:29.120 Uh, and some of them, some of them are great.
00:09:30.940 Some of them, that's why I subscribe to them, I listen to them a lot.
00:09:33.740 They're really nice people.
00:09:34.880 They like talking.
00:09:35.840 And others, they're just really angry, you know.
00:09:38.220 It's just, it's a mixed bag.
00:09:39.700 It's just, like, a bunch of different people there.
00:09:41.240 But, it's, it's changed a lot from what I've seen, I guess, is the only thing I can really say.
00:09:45.120 Um, originally, it was just a group of guys, uh, who just wanted to make themselves better.
00:09:50.840 And, uh, that's the MGTOW I truly, deeply respected.
00:09:55.320 I wish he kind of leaned more towards that, instead of, you know, just being angry all the time.
00:09:59.900 You know?
00:10:01.020 Yeah, hey, hey, let me, let me amend something.
00:10:03.140 You asked me if I knew, you know what, Professor Mentu?
00:10:06.480 I don't know if that's his name, I just know he calls himself a professor.
00:10:09.800 I know him by reputation.
00:10:11.720 Of people I trust.
00:10:13.280 Very good guy.
00:10:14.200 I, I never really got into his blog, just because it, like I said, when he was writing at the, at that point, it's stuff I already knew.
00:10:23.660 It's stuff that I, I agreed with, wasn't really getting into.
00:10:27.000 Great, solid guy from what I hear.
00:10:30.460 Uh, really hope to have a beer with him at some point.
00:10:32.980 Yeah, I don't know, maybe, maybe different, uh, you know, personally.
00:10:36.740 Oh, it's, it's the same one.
00:10:38.920 Things are clicking together now.
00:10:40.380 Yeah, I, I drink a lot, so it takes me a while to remember things.
00:10:44.060 Get off my lawn.
00:10:46.500 But yeah, I guess, I guess he's different, like, in person.
00:10:49.220 I don't know.
00:10:49.560 Again, like I say, he's not, he's not a dumb guy.
00:10:51.640 He's just, uh, very abrasive individual.
00:10:54.820 And very difficult to, uh, talk to when he gets riled up.
00:10:57.800 So, um, in my experience, at least, you know, uh, I think the debate's still on their, uh,
00:11:02.040 old channel.
00:11:02.860 Because I know they've got a new channel.
00:11:04.080 I saw it pop up in my, uh, suggestions feed.
00:11:07.760 You know, but, uh, yeah, I defended the MGTOW community.
00:11:10.760 I'll still defend MGTOWs, too.
00:11:12.200 Even though I see a lot of them really angry, you know, I still think, uh, it is, it's needed.
00:11:19.360 I do think, uh, it is needed, uh, to have a group of men who want to focus on making themselves
00:11:25.080 better.
00:11:25.860 But I think that should be the primary focus.
00:11:27.960 I don't really think talking about, uh, women so angrily, if you don't want to have much
00:11:33.460 to do with them, is much to do with them.
00:11:35.660 Actually, they don't even want to have, some of these guys don't even want to have solutions.
00:11:38.460 So I don't really understand what is the purpose of them being so angry with women if they don't
00:11:44.400 have the need to think to be.
00:11:46.660 You know, and these, again, these are the guys who, again, like, it's not everybody.
00:11:50.140 It's just those in particular, you know.
00:11:52.520 Well, that's half of my issue with all of this.
00:11:56.500 Uh, is, listen, on the Red Pill subreddit, this was a couple of years ago, I don't know
00:12:04.120 what's going on there now, but they posted basically, like, the stages of grief from
00:12:10.120 taking the Red Pill.
00:12:11.860 Like, when you first take the Red Pill, usually it's because you went through something really
00:12:16.480 traumatic in your life.
00:12:19.100 You know what, maybe it was a really harsh breakup, or maybe you got, you know, completely
00:12:24.080 raped in divorce court, or maybe you, um, got accused of domestic violence.
00:12:30.220 That was it for me.
00:12:31.160 That's what really opened my eyes to it, was, uh, going through a false, uh, domestic violence
00:12:37.920 accusation.
00:12:38.680 And all of a sudden, I started questioning all these previous assumptions I'd had, and
00:12:44.140 one by one, they just, they fell apart like, uh, like, like, spit on cotton candy.
00:12:49.780 They just, there was nothing to them.
00:12:52.320 Gotcha.
00:12:52.640 And, um, wait, where was I going with that?
00:13:00.800 So, so there's the stages of grief when you take the Red Pill and you realize you've been
00:13:06.440 lied to your entire life.
00:13:07.920 You realize that you've been, it's like, you get angry at first, or you're really hurt
00:13:12.820 at first.
00:13:14.420 And so, on the Red Pill subreddit, they said, like, listen, this is a space for guys to talk
00:13:20.560 like, guys, this is the locker room, so we're not allowing any women in here.
00:13:25.620 You know, uh, Return of Kings has the same policy.
00:13:27.820 Sorry, no women allowed.
00:13:29.080 There are good women out there.
00:13:30.660 We're not saying there ain't.
00:13:32.260 But there's no women allowed on here because this is the locker room.
00:13:35.980 And guys that have been hurt need to get it out.
00:13:39.360 They need to be able to be angry.
00:13:43.180 Yeah, and I agree with that, yeah, absolutely.
00:13:45.400 That's normal and healthy.
00:13:46.700 But what I'm seeing, all right, the whole reason this is an issue is that, basically,
00:13:57.140 my buddy Aaron, Aaron Clary, made an offhand comment about how there's a lot of guys calling
00:14:03.940 themselves MGTOWs because they're too afraid to go out there and meet women.
00:14:08.740 Instead of, they're not bitter over anything that, like, they're not bitter over a divorce.
00:14:16.220 They're not angry about something that happened to them.
00:14:19.800 They're afraid of trying in the first place.
00:14:23.300 And so they're adopting the attitude of men that have been through bad, bad stuff.
00:14:29.440 Do you know what it is?
00:14:30.080 It's like pretending that you are the same moral level as a Vietnam vet when you never served
00:14:36.700 in the first place.
00:14:37.540 And then coming up to an actual veteran like myself and starting to tell me about how the
00:14:48.060 military is just exploiting the dead.
00:14:50.740 Listen, listen, I will be the first one to get furious over anybody that's not getting
00:14:58.020 the treatment they deserve or anybody that got screwed over by the military because those
00:15:02.620 are my brothers.
00:15:03.300 But don't you come up to me, peace, Nick, and pretend to be my fucking brother.
00:15:11.100 We're on entirely different teams here.
00:15:13.940 And so this goes into the second point, and I want to get this out here early because it's
00:15:21.920 not something I'm trying to brag about, but when you want to talk about MGTOWs, I'm one
00:15:30.480 of the old school ones.
00:15:32.040 I am one of the originals.
00:15:33.500 Yeah, I'm not a perfect, I'm not the second coming of Christ or anything like that, but
00:15:39.640 like Rob Fetters is the guy that invented the term MGTOW.
00:15:43.060 Him and the other group on the old men going their own way for him.
00:15:48.840 And they invented it because it wasn't supposed to be pronounceable.
00:15:53.500 They did not want it to be an acronym or an initialism.
00:15:56.980 Or sorry, they did want it to be an initialism, not an acronym.
00:15:59.380 And he's linked my sight in the past.
00:16:04.860 So I think that qualifies me as having enough street cred to tell these new MGTOWs, y'all
00:16:13.940 don't know what the hell you're talking about.
00:16:15.880 Yeah, and I think one thing, one thing, I don't know, I personally, I do kind of feel
00:16:23.280 that for, there's one thing that I've noticed a lot, I'm kind of switching gears here, is
00:16:29.280 how some of them, if anyone has like a dissenting opinion about them, like with Erin Ferry,
00:16:38.140 you know, it's not just Erin Ferry.
00:16:40.140 I think the same thing kind of happened with Karen, with Karen Strong, because I guess she
00:16:44.260 was defending traditionalism or something like that, she got a firestorm.
00:16:48.240 This girl, girl, I'm not going to go and hang out with her later this week, Alex got a firestorm
00:16:53.460 because she made a video, which technically speaking, she wasn't really, I guess she's
00:16:57.560 criticizing the attributes of MGTOW, but she didn't say MGTOW specifically.
00:17:01.160 A bunch of MGTOWs caught wind of it, they made multiple video responses to it, just, you
00:17:05.380 know, just sharted down it.
00:17:07.020 A lot of people still don't like her to this day because of the video she made.
00:17:10.860 And the thing that gets me, it just kind of frustrates me a little bit, it's like, these
00:17:15.220 are supposed to be like grown-ass men, like adults.
00:17:18.180 I'm like, I mean, guys, I mean, people are allowed to feel differently.
00:17:21.480 Like, it's all fucking K if someone doesn't feel the way you feel, you know, and if someone
00:17:27.400 says the mean thing to you, again, you're an adult, you can just pick your balls up and
00:17:32.100 leave, you know, you don't have to deal with that shit.
00:17:34.280 And what kills me is that I'll see some of these guys and say, you know, we don't care about
00:17:38.280 what anyone says about us, and I'm like, well, evidently you do, because when someone
00:17:42.380 says something mean about you, or if someone says, I don't know, something just indifferent,
00:17:46.360 or just, if someone says something you don't fucking like, and they'll react like it's
00:17:50.580 too much fucking this, get really angry.
00:17:52.620 You know, and again, like I said, I've got to preface this, it's not everyone, you know,
00:17:55.380 I don't want anyone to start fishing at me because I'm criticizing the men who are doing
00:18:01.360 this shit, but I mean, you know, seriously, and I've noticed this a lot, and I just don't
00:18:05.520 understand, you know, how can you simultaneously tell them you don't care, but you very clearly
00:18:10.580 do care, because someone said something that you don't like.
00:18:13.640 Like, guys, I mean, we're dopes here, you know, you can feel different, and kind of like
00:18:17.920 with Karastronic, and like, again, like, I haven't, I don't know everything that happened
00:18:22.040 there, um, I know Razorblade Candy, you know who Razorblade Candy is, right?
00:18:26.920 He does, like, text-to-speech voice videos.
00:18:30.680 Oh, I can't, why not just record your own voice, okay?
00:18:34.240 It's, like, the, listen, the CIA's already recording all of the porn that you masturbate
00:18:40.260 to.
00:18:40.940 Like, why not, no civilian is going to figure out who you are from your voice.
00:18:50.600 That's my two-send.
00:18:52.520 Yeah, I don't know why he doesn't, uh, it doesn't bother me too much, but I just,
00:18:56.920 you know, just trying to bring him up, because I haven't even finished the whole video he
00:19:01.080 made, but I guess he made a video where he was trying to pwn Karen Strong, because Karen
00:19:05.200 made a long-winded comment and brought in a bunch of MRAs, and then there's the MRAs
00:19:09.680 we can chat about a little bit, because, uh, one thing I just, I had never noticed before,
00:19:14.580 a lot of people said that MRAs are turning into, you know, the male brand of feminists, and
00:19:20.800 at this point, uh, I, I, I can't completely agree with that, I think, they certainly are
00:19:25.500 not, are not feminists, but I can see why some people will make fun of, uh, MRAs, because
00:19:30.680 of some of the silly shit that they do, and some of them just get involved in stupid drama
00:19:35.800 that just is not conducive to anything, you know?
00:19:38.240 It's, like, it's one thing to have a massive disagreement where you guys talk and try to
00:19:42.300 figure things out, it's another thing to go, like, he said, she said, like, this is an
00:19:45.700 episode of fucking Degrassi, like, I remember I saw a comment on, like, uh, on, like, Diana's
00:19:51.200 video, and someone was like, did I just step into Degrassi?
00:19:54.340 And I was like, seriously, it's just so much, that's really just so much drama that's just
00:19:59.820 going on between, like, I guess you could say the male spirit.
00:20:03.100 And I think, uh, there's one guy, Molly MGTOW, he said, uh, you know, he's, he's noticed
00:20:08.200 the chaos, and I completely agree with him, and, like, he's one of the MGTOWs I like, he's
00:20:12.400 a very smart guy, and really wants to focus the so-called movement into doing something,
00:20:18.580 and I think the focus should be just, you know, instilling a level of self-esteem and
00:20:22.200 worth in men, but, it's just, this drama just really upsets me a lot, because it's just
00:20:27.420 not conducive to anything.
00:20:28.960 When it becomes more about the drama than about the subject matter, like, like, listen,
00:20:32.520 I've, I've got friends all over the goddamn place, okay?
00:20:36.660 Um, I, I'm friends with Doc Illusion, and, okay, I, I haven't met Ruch in person, I, I
00:20:41.340 really hope to share a beer with him at some point, but Doc Illusion really doesn't like
00:20:46.080 Ruch, and I disagree, like, listen, this is the thing about guys, they have beefs with
00:20:52.480 one another, but Doc Illusion, he's honorable about the whole thing, he doesn't like Ruch,
00:20:58.560 I know it, okay, he'll concede sometimes that Ruch has some good points, and it's like,
00:21:03.980 alright, as long as you're reasonable and honorable.
00:21:06.360 You know, I'm friends with Matt Forney and Paul Illum, and, uh, you know, they, they, they,
00:21:12.620 they got a beef with each other, but it's still an honorable beef.
00:21:16.160 I understand why they have the beef with each other, but they're, they're not, that, when
00:21:21.720 they have argued with each other, they argued with each other up front and in the open, and
00:21:27.160 they outright called each other faggots.
00:21:30.780 They didn't sneak around, they, and this is what really gets me with the, these MGTOWs,
00:21:36.160 and, and now right, now, right off the bat, if you are feeling offended right now, think about it.
00:21:44.460 Yeah, exactly.
00:21:45.260 And am I describing you, and, and is the person I'm about to critique, is that you?
00:21:51.180 Because if it's not you, I'm not critiquing you.
00:21:54.800 Thank you, exactly, exactly.
00:21:57.540 If, if I say feminists are delusional bitches that have never worked a day in their life,
00:22:02.860 and you consider yourself a feminist, and you work at a fabrication plant, and you're,
00:22:10.260 whatever, I'm not talking about you.
00:22:15.420 I'm not criticizing you.
00:22:18.060 I'm talking about what I'm noticing from the movement.
00:22:21.320 And if, and it, and hey, and if anybody wants to say, you know what, the Manosphere is full
00:22:25.100 of these fake game bloggers that have anonymous names, and I don't believe for a day that any
00:22:30.720 of them got laid, I'll say, yeah, you're right.
00:22:34.320 Pisses me the fuck off.
00:22:37.360 So when I, when I see these, these MGTOWs, and they, they appear in the comments section
00:22:41.980 making these snide remarks, and making all these, they, they don't know anything about
00:22:47.580 the movement.
00:22:48.580 All they understand is popularity and social status.
00:22:51.920 You're, you're, you're attacking my favorite guy, and so you must be an idiot.
00:22:59.300 You must be, jeez, I just covered this in my video on Monday about how there's like the
00:23:03.880 two, there's the two heresies.
00:23:06.640 So because I don't endorse rejecting all women and spending every day hating them, I must want
00:23:13.460 you to be a slave in marriage.
00:23:16.080 No, and that, and that's one thing that I say all the time, like, I'll, I'll never
00:23:20.320 knock any man for not wanting to get married.
00:23:22.620 I feel that's, that's your prerogative.
00:23:24.840 I'll, I'll never knock any man for not wanting to have children.
00:23:27.400 That's, that's your prerogative.
00:23:28.660 You can do whatever you want to do.
00:23:30.420 You know, uh, and I think that's perfectly fine.
00:23:33.440 I have no issue with that.
00:23:34.860 The thing that gets me is, you know, I'll say, you know, like, I, I personally would like
00:23:38.740 to get married, and then I had a couple of people who call me stupid and get upset with
00:23:42.520 me.
00:23:43.000 Actually, I remember one time, um, uh, I, I remember I fucked up once way back when, and
00:23:49.460 I said that, um, I wasn't a hundred percent against gynocentrism, and I, I'll completely
00:23:53.980 admit I was wrong, because what I originally thought was gynocentrism was just, uh, just
00:23:58.140 having relationships with women.
00:23:59.800 I was, I was ignorant on the topic, so that's my fault.
00:24:02.800 And a lot of people got upset with me, but some of them, and this is how I know, they're,
00:24:07.160 they're different mid-tiles, and some of them really just kind of chatted with me, and
00:24:11.040 just like, you know, there's, I don't really think you understand what gynocentrism is.
00:24:13.860 It, it's not just relationships with women, you know, it's more, you know, uh, it's an
00:24:18.420 over, it's more a lot of attention on women, acting, expensive men, you know, just to
00:24:22.540 clear real briefly.
00:24:23.420 And some of them, again, like I say, will definitely have a conversation, and will talk
00:24:28.080 to me, which is why I, I will still always defend me, Tao, it's just, you know, these other
00:24:32.340 guys, you know, you're talking about Davis, is, I agree, the drama, the attention-seeking,
00:24:37.100 I think is ridiculous, and from those in particular.
00:24:42.240 Yeah, I actually just, uh, heard an interesting, uh, comment from, uh, uh, Mercedes Carrera,
00:24:47.580 actually, I was just reviewing the footage, uh, the interview with her, and she was pointing
00:24:52.100 out, like, are you familiar with, uh, the maiden-mother-crone?
00:24:55.880 No.
00:24:56.860 Okay, the maiden-mother-crone is the three stages of, uh, uh, of female psychology.
00:25:03.380 Like, it's the traditional understanding of the archetypal growth of the woman.
00:25:08.380 And she was talking, like, the maiden is the pure, innocent, virginal, like, the mother
00:25:13.480 is the adult woman, the mother, the wife, and then the crone is the, the elder wisdom.
00:25:19.700 But they each have their dark halves, and the, and she was saying that this entire social
00:25:25.200 justice movement is really the dark half of the maiden.
00:25:27.460 Because it's, it's narcissistic, they want to see the world reflected in themselves, they,
00:25:33.100 they can't think about, like, the mother thinks about other people, and the crone thinks about
00:25:37.100 society.
00:25:38.000 Like, the mother thinks about her children and her family, and she, the crone thinks about
00:25:42.140 the, the entire society.
00:25:43.700 Um, the, the maiden just thinks about herself, trying to choose the best man, but the dark maiden
00:25:48.860 is, is, is, wants the entire world to reflect what she does.
00:25:56.180 She doesn't want to be responsible for anything.
00:26:00.140 Yeah.
00:26:00.780 So there's, there's women you can talk to about this.
00:26:04.540 I mean, yes, we have a lot of terrible women nowadays, but the entire, like, we turn the
00:26:10.100 dance of the sexes into a sex war.
00:26:12.200 And you guys need to arm yourselves, because like it or not, you're going up against armed
00:26:17.480 assailants.
00:26:18.940 Damn straight.
00:26:22.340 But it's often, it's a very emotional interpretation, it's a very angry interpretation, whereas the
00:26:30.020 original, you know, the guy that coined the term MGTOW, it's about understanding how women
00:26:36.060 are different.
00:26:36.660 It's about having a realistic perspective on life.
00:26:42.400 And then, when you know all this, when you get rid of the, the Candyland veneer of how
00:26:48.160 life is wonderful, it's about going your own way, figuring out what you want out of life.
00:26:54.680 It doesn't mean screaming, I'm never going to get married.
00:26:58.380 When you're 20, fuck you, listen, when you're 20 and you're beautiful and you have friends
00:27:03.520 and you're at university, yeah, yeah, okay, it's easy to make such declarations.
00:27:09.300 When you're 50 and you're ugly and nobody wants to talk to you, Stefan Molyneux just did a video
00:27:20.000 on that.
00:27:20.700 When you're in your 20s and 30s, you should be building a life, and this means interpersonal
00:27:28.580 connections, it means personal accomplishments, skills, abilities, et cetera, that leads to
00:27:35.620 you having a community in 20 years' time.
00:27:42.180 Maybe that's with a married woman.
00:27:44.380 Yeah, and again, you know, marriage law is, yes, I know marriage law is broken, but talk
00:27:49.780 about that, I, do I really need to say anything more?
00:27:56.740 Be cautious.
00:27:58.240 Don't marry the first girl that, that makes eyes at you.
00:28:02.380 Yeah, I think, I think that's one lesson I, I kind of noticed a lot with a couple of my
00:28:06.500 friends is, uh, they get so little female attention that even when a toxic woman gives
00:28:11.520 them attention, they just kind of put a lot of into it, and I was, and I was at one too
00:28:14.840 not younger, you know, so it's not of their fault, but I think, uh, one thing that I kind
00:28:19.840 of say a lot on my channel is, men gotta do a little more selective with who they pick.
00:28:24.420 Well, have you heard the term, have you heard the term thirsty man?
00:28:29.180 Oh yeah, absolutely, all the time.
00:28:31.940 Thirsty, thirsty names, thirsty men, yeah.
00:28:34.960 They will sell you out at the drop by hat.
00:28:39.540 You can not trust thirsty men.
00:28:41.360 No, no, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't really trust thirsty people in general,
00:28:45.440 either, but thirsty just really means attention seeking, you know, so, uh, and I actually
00:28:49.820 gotta make a whole video series about thirsty women, so, big up for that, but, um, yeah,
00:28:55.220 that's basically, they're, they're men who kowtow to women, they, are just desperately seeking
00:28:59.800 their attention in their approval, and to that, I understand, you can definitely criticize
00:29:03.780 something like that, because that's just unacceptable, but, um, yeah, I guess.
00:29:08.360 I'll, I'll be honest, I, um, with the whole MGTOW thing, I'm feeling a lot of thirst from
00:29:15.700 some of them.
00:29:16.900 I can understand why you say that, I can't.
00:29:19.180 And it's, it's, it's inversed, it's like, it's upside down thirst, but they are so eager
00:29:26.440 to prove that they don't care what women think of them.
00:29:29.580 I think, and, you know, that's, that's something that happens in a lot of people, uh, especially,
00:29:35.120 you'll, you'll find that in a lot of attention, Horace, is that they will make a gigantic show
00:29:40.380 of, I don't care about what you have to say.
00:29:42.740 Well, I mean, you, you, you really show just how much you don't care by telling me you don't
00:29:48.560 care.
00:29:48.860 This whole show of how it doesn't matter to you, that's why you're complaining and
00:29:52.740 halfway crying about it.
00:29:54.020 You know, that, that is, that is a trait that a lot of, uh, attention-seeking people
00:29:57.720 do, uh, possess.
00:29:59.680 They, they'll make a gigantic show of how they just, they don't care about your opinion,
00:30:03.360 but evidently, they, they clearly do.
00:30:05.840 Yeah, it's, you know, as the Becloff said, the Manosphere isn't something you write, it's
00:30:12.520 a genre that you write in.
00:30:14.660 And MGTOW is not a movement, it's a philosophy.
00:30:18.200 In fact, one of the sad things about MGTOW is that the best MGTOW writers wind up quitting
00:30:27.720 and going their own, going their own way, and they're no longer, like, they, they, they
00:30:33.380 write their piece, they're like, this is how I see the fucking world, and you boys can learn
00:30:38.180 from me or not, I don't care, because that motorcycle's running, I'm getting on it, and
00:30:45.040 I'm driving through the mountains.
00:30:46.420 See ya.
00:30:48.200 Like, myself, the reason I keep making videos, the reason I keep writing is, because I'm not
00:30:58.500 writing about feminism, feminism comes up a lot, but I'm writing about truth and philosophy
00:31:05.560 and beauty and martial prowess.
00:31:08.360 I'm, you know, I, I have things, I'm focusing, MGTOW is not something to focus on, it's something
00:31:15.980 to understand, and when you understand it, you put it down, and you move on with your
00:31:19.860 life.
00:31:23.980 Yeah, you know, uh, you know Bernard Kaplan, right?
00:31:27.280 Chapin!
00:31:28.140 Chapin!
00:31:28.640 Chapin, Chapin, there you go.
00:31:29.340 Yeah, I had tears with a guy, um, what was it, December?
00:31:32.200 Yeah, crashed on his couch.
00:31:33.340 He is a solid individual.
00:31:35.280 And by the way, he is a lot smarter than you think.
00:31:40.160 Uh, I'm sure he is, but, uh, I remember, you know, he, he put it best to me, he's like,
00:31:44.820 you know, I don't, I don't, I don't need the club to tell me I'm a man going his own way,
00:31:48.420 you know, just, just do it.
00:31:50.120 You know, I'm just, I'm just a man going his own way, and he just put it as simple as that.
00:31:54.500 I was like, there you go, Chapin, yeah.
00:31:55.980 Chapin, he's Chapin, right?
00:31:57.640 Chapin.
00:31:58.580 Chapin, yeah.
00:32:00.280 By the way, very interesting guy, I like him.
00:32:01.940 Uh, I do, he's a very interesting guy.
00:32:05.000 I guess, well, one thing I will say is, I think a lot of people kind of get caught in
00:32:09.640 this trap, and my friend Chaos Six Queen kind of brought this to my attention, as, uh,
00:32:14.340 some people move really close to a zero-sum game, and, like, left versus right, or MRA
00:32:19.900 versus feminism, and I guess sometimes he does kind of lean a little more towards that, you
00:32:24.420 know, combative right-wing area, but that's, that's the only thing I can really say about
00:32:28.580 him.
00:32:29.300 Uh, he's a very intelligent man, I like less than a boy.
00:32:32.440 Oh, and you know, and again, there's a role to be angry.
00:32:35.580 Yeah.
00:32:36.140 There's a, but, stop being angry at your brothers-in-arms, you know?
00:32:42.700 Stop being, stop being angry at the wrong people.
00:32:46.360 Yeah.
00:32:48.160 Yeah, because, like, even, even though, uh, I called myself an anti-feminist for a while,
00:32:52.340 we're probably gonna drop that and just focus more on responding to stupid shit.
00:32:56.320 Yeah, because, uh, it wasn't even, it really wasn't even feminism that I disliked so much,
00:33:01.780 more as, you know, an over-sweeping generalization, you know, and the hypocrisy, which is why I
00:33:07.480 even talk about, like, atheist quote members, too, or, like, just, like, anti-theists.
00:33:12.200 It's really just gigantic levels of hypocrisy and ignorance that I dislike.
00:33:16.980 Like, and I, I guess I make more fun of feminism because it's, it's really easy and, and it's
00:33:21.760 really toxic, too, and it has a lot of power for no, for some reason, feminists still have
00:33:26.920 a lot of power in our society, even though a lot of people really do it a lot, but, um,
00:33:31.960 yeah, that's definitely why.
00:33:33.200 There's a little more focus against hypocrisy and just stupid stuff, I see.
00:33:37.860 Uh, the other night, I think I recommended the, the fourth turning to you.
00:33:41.520 In the 48 hours since then, have you managed to finish that book?
00:33:45.660 No, I haven't, I haven't got to start on it.
00:33:48.120 Yeah, just send it to me again.
00:33:49.860 It's, well, the authors would argue that the, the millennial generation is a hero generation.
00:33:55.940 And the hero generation wants to be part of an army.
00:34:01.020 And you can, what's that really popular song?
00:34:04.460 It was in the Lego movie about, we're all part of a-
00:34:07.020 Every day is awesome?
00:34:08.220 Yeah, every day is awesome.
00:34:09.200 It's all about being part of a team, isn't it?
00:34:11.520 Yeah.
00:34:12.380 That, that is the, the, the clarion call of the millennial generation.
00:34:19.340 They want to be part of a team.
00:34:21.260 Uh, me, I'm, I'm the very tail end of Gen X.
00:34:25.400 Our, our music was about how we're alienated and alone.
00:34:30.120 We're the nomad generation.
00:34:32.160 Nobody gives a damn about us.
00:34:33.740 We have to survive on our own.
00:34:34.900 And so I get that these millennials want to be part of something bigger.
00:34:41.480 They want to be part of an army.
00:34:43.940 But, but, basing your identity off of ideological maxims, no, like the only, serve the truth is what I'm saying.
00:35:00.480 Yeah.
00:35:00.760 Is learn something true?
00:35:02.720 And to be, and to be, and to be fair, I, uh, sorry to cut you off, but I think that's really a gigantic reason why people in general get so upset when you criticize them.
00:35:12.480 I think it's because they leave their identity to, uh, to that label, to their ideology.
00:35:18.320 And so when you say something against it, it's like you're personally attacking them.
00:35:21.520 I think my, my roommate Sean put it best.
00:35:23.240 It's like too many people confuse what they like or who they are.
00:35:27.700 And I think that's just one important thing to point out.
00:35:29.600 But go ahead.
00:35:30.000 Well, this has been a progressive thing going on for 50 years now is the increase in narcissism of the, uh, the West in general.
00:35:41.300 I recommend the, the blogger, the last psychiatrist, just Google him.
00:35:45.000 He's great.
00:35:45.900 Uh, and it's been affecting every generation, but narcissism is essentially the way I dress, the way I speak that like it's, I don't have a real identity on the inside.
00:35:58.540 I don't have accomplishments.
00:35:59.960 I don't have self-confidence.
00:36:01.460 I have a shell I put up.
00:36:03.640 And if you contradict that shell, either by exposing a hypocrisy of mine or by out-arguing my ideas, I consider that a personal attack.
00:36:15.220 Yeah.
00:36:15.860 And Gen X is narcissistic.
00:36:17.520 The, the boomers are narcissistic.
00:36:19.560 You know, the, the silencer are narcissistic.
00:36:22.660 It's been going on for a long while.
00:36:24.260 But I, you know, I also find that, I find that a lot of the millennials, they want guys like Aaron and myself to be cult leaders.
00:36:38.900 They want us to give them an identity, to tell them what they are, make them soldier, rank and file in our army.
00:36:46.380 And then they get angry when we don't do that.
00:36:52.700 When the real answer is, sorry folks, I don't have a war worth fighting.
00:36:56.800 Listen, if I have a conversation with the Pope and we declare the Fifth Crusade, then you can be soldiers in my army.
00:37:02.660 But, right now, I'm doing the best I can to tell people the truth as I see it, and encourage, and you were saying this to me the other night, that you, you and I are wrong about a lot of stuff that we say, probably.
00:37:20.640 Yeah.
00:37:21.220 True.
00:37:22.220 Yeah.
00:37:23.780 We want to encourage conversation on our channels, not groupthink.
00:37:29.640 Exactly.
00:37:30.480 Which is why I welcome the fact that everyone doesn't agree with me.
00:37:33.180 I think it's a great thing.
00:37:35.680 No, and they should have.
00:37:37.120 And it's not a personal attack when somebody disagrees with you.
00:37:40.420 Exactly.
00:37:43.160 Like, we have been...
00:37:44.660 We've been steeped in this culture of lies.
00:37:50.580 Because, listen, marketing.
00:37:53.340 Nike sneakers want you to buy their shoes and feel good about yourself.
00:37:58.100 Without realizing that the two things are connected to one another.
00:38:03.260 Yeah, that's marketing in a nutshell.
00:38:05.360 Buy our product because it makes you feel like a person.
00:38:09.480 Whatever person that...
00:38:10.680 Like, whatever.
00:38:11.820 If you're a goth, go to Hot Topic.
00:38:13.880 If you're a badass dude, buy an AR-15.
00:38:16.700 It'll give you your man card back.
00:38:18.560 You know, if you're...
00:38:19.760 Whatever you are, here's your identity.
00:38:22.080 You just need to buy our fucking product.
00:38:23.880 And I think what you're trying to do, what I'm trying to do...
00:38:31.440 What MGTOW was originally about is rejecting that whole identity thing.
00:38:39.420 Yeah.
00:38:39.600 If there's an army for millennials to fight in, it's the army of free thinking.
00:38:46.320 Yeah, that's the best way to put it.
00:38:47.980 That is the best way to put it.
00:38:50.560 And I'm sorry to say there's no merit badges when you're a free thinker.
00:38:55.760 There's just a lot of personal embarrassment when you admit you were wrong about something.
00:39:00.300 Well, you know, the interesting thing about that is, you know, there's never actually anything wrong about being wrong.
00:39:07.940 You know, a lot of people do get pretty hurt or angry when they get called out for being wrong.
00:39:13.140 But it's okay.
00:39:14.940 You know, I think a lot of people are really taught that it is okay to not be right sometimes.
00:39:19.700 Like, it's okay to, you know, to have to recant.
00:39:22.560 And, like, every now and again, I'll have to post an annotation to my videos and say, hey, look, I was wrong here.
00:39:28.180 You know, go check out something else or let me go correct this.
00:39:31.500 You know, like, it's okay to make mistakes.
00:39:33.440 And that's how you learn, you know.
00:39:34.900 It's perfectly fine.
00:39:36.600 You know, and I learn a lot from the people who subscribe to me all the time.
00:39:40.100 Like, there are a lot of people who are probably smarter than I am than I taught you.
00:39:42.940 And it's fine.
00:39:44.300 I think that's one lesson a lot of people really should learn, that it is okay to be wrong.
00:39:49.740 And it is not a crime to not always have all the answers.
00:39:54.220 I mean, you're really human.
00:39:55.660 So there's only so much one person should really know, you know.
00:39:58.280 And I don't know jack shit about electrical engineering, you know, but that doesn't mean that I'm a terrible person.
00:40:03.980 It doesn't even mean I'm stupid, you know.
00:40:06.580 Yeah, I screwed up.
00:40:08.440 I got Aristotle and Plato confused in a recent video I did about Plato and Aristotle.
00:40:15.060 Yeah, I remember that.
00:40:16.140 That was, I was so embarrassed.
00:40:18.140 What a jack, why did I, like, I've got this bad habit of getting all three of the big Greek philosophers confused with one another.
00:40:27.560 And about four years ago, I wrote down the one story, like, in my brain, I wrote down the story about Aristotle, but I subtitled it, Plato.
00:40:36.180 And then I say that in the video.
00:40:37.200 I didn't even Google that.
00:40:38.420 Why didn't I think to Google that?
00:40:40.200 Because I'm an idiot.
00:40:41.220 That's why.
00:40:41.780 But that's the reality is that you make mistakes.
00:40:49.420 We're, we're, none of us are perfect.
00:40:52.600 And if you look at the debate tactics, the SJWs in particular, they, they want to take up anything.
00:41:01.860 They, they, they will search through five years of tweets.
00:41:06.360 Like, I mean.
00:41:07.580 They really will.
00:41:08.400 That's literally, they, they really will.
00:41:10.780 And there's people I like and who I find inspirational and insightful.
00:41:15.820 I won't look through five years of their fucking bullshit.
00:41:18.860 And yet, they'll do this, and they'll find one thing that was, whatever, it could be something
00:41:32.300 that was vaguely offensive, or it could be something that was stupid, or it could be something
00:41:36.760 that was embarrassing.
00:41:38.140 It doesn't matter.
00:41:38.980 They will just search and search, and then they pat themselves on the back like they're
00:41:42.820 an investigative journalist for reading through five years.
00:41:46.380 You're not an investigative journalist.
00:41:48.860 You're a bloody accountant.
00:41:50.860 Except, except accountants do positive things in the world.
00:41:57.740 And, and you would think that the generation that, how to put it, you know what, like, again,
00:42:07.340 I'm Gen X.
00:42:08.060 I remember before computers.
00:42:10.260 Okay?
00:42:10.640 I, I remember library cards.
00:42:13.600 Only geeks have library cards now.
00:42:17.220 Everybody knows.
00:42:18.180 They're not internet pirates.
00:42:23.380 And, and there's, there's a joke that this, there is, the millennial generation, there
00:42:29.220 is porn of 90% of them.
00:42:31.700 Or something like that.
00:42:33.520 Wow.
00:42:35.060 Something, at least 50.
00:42:37.720 Yeah, let's put it that way.
00:42:39.160 At least 50.
00:42:39.820 Back in my day, it was a few Polaroids.
00:42:44.700 You know?
00:42:45.860 Yeah.
00:42:46.780 Polaroids.
00:42:48.060 You can pay somebody to destroy a Polaroid.
00:42:51.780 Worst case scenario, you get blackmailed, $10,000, it goes away.
00:42:56.640 Internet generation.
00:42:57.860 Yeah, it's over.
00:42:59.100 It's over.
00:42:59.200 It's over.
00:42:59.480 It's over, like, Christmas.
00:43:02.340 It's, it's over.
00:43:03.940 You think this would be the generation to stop judging people on, on who they're friends
00:43:12.460 with, on whether or not they're cool, whether or not they said something stupid five years
00:43:16.580 ago, et cetera, and, you know, I guess that, that's really why this whole MGTOW thing frustrates
00:43:28.540 me so much, is because MGTOW is supposed to be about going your own way, and yet I see
00:43:33.460 the most slavish, identitarian, uh, philosophy being, being embraced by some of them.
00:43:44.260 Yeah.
00:43:44.700 I, I don't know if it's 60%, or if it's 6%, it's a very vocal group.
00:43:51.860 Yeah.
00:43:52.440 But the SJWs are very vocal, and they're, like, best case scenario, one out of 20 people
00:43:59.360 are sympathetic with them.
00:44:02.220 Mm-hmm.
00:44:03.200 But they, but they, they still, they still manage to have a lot of power, for some reason.
00:44:07.060 I, I just, I just don't know where it comes from.
00:44:09.300 I do not understand the source.
00:44:12.200 Actually, I think I do.
00:44:12.860 I think I might understand the source, uh, I think it's just, a lot of people, I think
00:44:17.860 a lot of people want to do good, and they just don't think critically about what's going
00:44:22.060 on.
00:44:22.280 But I might have to expand upon that in the distant future.
00:44:25.680 Well, I think a huge part of it.
00:44:28.760 And this is something I've been, like, like, doing this documentary on Sarkeesian, you know,
00:44:34.440 examining her claims about being harassed, and, like, the amount of harassment I've received,
00:44:39.380 and, so I, it's really got me thinking.
00:44:44.560 Because I do try and put myself in other people's shoes, try and understand where they're coming
00:44:48.620 from.
00:44:49.580 Mm-hmm.
00:44:49.900 And, and, we're really just beginning to understand this, this whole internet technology, the many
00:44:58.880 to the many.
00:45:01.100 You know, like, we, we used to have these standards of decorum, that, you know, if you're sitting
00:45:07.360 around in the bar, and you say, well, you know, that, that Ronald Reagan, he's an asshole.
00:45:13.120 You know, you're just sitting at the bar, that's fine.
00:45:15.640 Whereas the guy that's writing the newspaper article, he's not going to title his article,
00:45:20.440 Ronald Reagan is an asshole.
00:45:22.600 Yeah.
00:45:25.000 But nowadays, like, that, like, that, that journalistic line has broken down.
00:45:29.980 Um, because, what's the difference between, you know, some, like, I, seriously, I've watched
00:45:39.020 so many people on Twitter, just because they do nothing but send insults to me, and I just
00:45:44.440 don't have the time to read it.
00:45:47.620 But, but, really, what is the difference, if I talk about the SJWs are harassing me, or
00:45:54.640 if Anita Sarkeesian says Gamergate's harassing her, even though she has nothing to do with
00:45:57.880 Gamergate.
00:45:58.700 Um.
00:45:59.060 Yeah.
00:45:59.980 Um, sorry, what was I saying?
00:46:02.960 But the thing is that, if you get, listen, if the media, if the national media, if the
00:46:10.660 newspapers were posting dozens of articles laughing at somebody for getting raped, or, or
00:46:17.080 what have you, or, or targeting some kid in high school that accidentally, you know, shit
00:46:24.840 their pants at prom, and saying, look at how funny this is.
00:46:28.720 We'd say that's a problem.
00:46:30.980 Okay.
00:46:33.300 But with the new media, because anybody can be a journalist, yeah, and it really blurs the
00:46:42.220 line.
00:46:42.520 I try and hold myself to a very high standard, and I think you do as well, but most of the
00:46:48.640 people out there tweeting are just tweeting insults at one another, and animated gifs, and
00:46:54.260 and, and you know what, that teenager nowadays, they shit their pants at prom, and somebody
00:47:02.640 makes a YouTube video with daft punk in the background for music, and it gets two million
00:47:12.900 hits.
00:47:13.280 Now, now, now I'm sure as hell not saying what we need is more FCC in the internet, what
00:47:19.660 we need is more censorship, that's the opposite of what I'm saying.
00:47:23.120 Mm-hmm.
00:47:25.720 But it's a, it's a confusing new technology, and we're trying to figure it out.
00:47:29.540 And there's a lot of people that behave very uncivilly when they have an anonymous account.
00:47:38.840 Yeah, true of that, true of that.
00:47:41.240 I don't know, I think, I mean, Stanley, Stanley put it best, man, with great power comes great
00:47:46.760 responsibility.
00:47:47.400 And it just rings true for everything.
00:47:51.380 It's just, there, there is a lot of power in eminity.
00:47:54.580 There's a lot of power in, you know, having the internet, or having a lot of this technology.
00:47:59.220 And a lot of people don't respect that power, and they don't respect the fact that, you know,
00:48:03.880 it's just that you can hurt people, but that you can, you can do a lot of things with it,
00:48:07.780 you know, and it's, a lot of people just resort to being stupid with it.
00:48:13.100 It's just, a lot of people, they just, they just kind of squander it, you know,
00:48:16.680 they'll, they'll put up absolute nonsense for no reason.
00:48:20.080 And, and yeah, that's what people want to see, they want to see nonsense.
00:48:23.320 Yeah, you know, like, it's not, not even like funny nonsense, it's not even stuff to
00:48:26.840 make you laugh, just, just nonsense, just stupid shit.
00:48:31.400 Akkad would weep at the libraries we have access to nowadays.
00:48:37.780 I'm not talking about Sargon.
00:48:41.960 And yet we, we just, what do we use it for?
00:48:44.900 Sharing funny gifts.
00:48:47.680 So, you know what, I, I think a lot of folks that listen to my channel, they, they might
00:48:53.540 have seen a couple of your videos, but they don't really know your background, how you
00:48:57.900 got into this, and it's actually, it's a little bit interesting, just slightly, so you
00:49:03.300 got, you guys can tune out right now, it's not that interesting, but, how, how did you
00:49:08.640 wind up doing these politically incorrect, um, screw you, this is the way I see it, and
00:49:17.840 I'm going to piss off everybody, and I'll never have a career, videos.
00:49:22.460 And, uh, what happened was, uh, to get personal, what happened was that growing up, I was a
00:49:35.460 really depressed person, and I had a lot of different things that, uh, happened to me in
00:49:37.320 my life, and, uh, I, I always had an innate desire to just kind of want to help people,
00:49:42.180 you know, really, uh, do something for other people, and so I figured the best way I could
00:49:47.320 do that is to share a lot of knowledge that I've gotten throughout the course of my lifetime,
00:49:50.320 and to put it out there in a pretty entertaining way, which is why I'm a really snarky person,
00:49:56.320 you know, by nature, you know, really snarky, sarcastic, and so I figured what I would do
00:50:01.320 is I would just meld the two together, and I'll be, I'll make some comedy skits, some politically
00:50:06.320 incorrect commentary, and then what happened was, uh, originally, funny thing about how I
00:50:10.320 started talking about, uh, feminism, which is, it's really ironic, because, um, I, I, going
00:50:17.320 up, and it's kind of funny to admit, I really did lean more towards being a, a, a, quote
00:50:22.320 unquote male feminist, or male ally, but, um, well, I, I, I once, you know, in the peace
00:50:30.320 studies class I took, yeah, I took the peace studies, guys, this is how, when I tell you
00:50:35.320 about broken academia, I, actually, the prof was bloody awesome, you know, uh, she, that
00:50:40.320 actually, like, negotiated between Palestinians and Israelis, she was, she was solid, it was all
00:50:46.320 the TAs that were giant faggots, but, yeah, I, I once, this one guy next to me in class
00:50:52.320 said, oh, she's a fucking feminist, and Irini circa, you know, 2003 or whatever said, well,
00:50:59.320 you like having casual sex, don't you?
00:51:03.320 Yeah.
00:51:04.320 Irini 2015, different fucking opinion, but.
00:51:08.320 Yeah.
00:51:09.320 Yeah, we all, we, we all went to the same public schools, we all read the exact same books,
00:51:15.320 you know, you, me, like, you think I don't know about all that social justice I'm supposed
00:51:23.320 to believe in?
00:51:24.320 Yeah, exactly.
00:51:25.320 And that's the thing, you know, it's funny because, um, really, I, and when I first started
00:51:30.320 making the, the criticisms of feminists, I actually made them directly to, I actually
00:51:36.320 made them to get a response from feminists to answer my questions, right?
00:51:40.320 So, you can actually see there is a gigantic change in how I do the video responses, and
00:51:46.320 that I was actually trying to get them to talk to me, right?
00:51:50.320 And over time, I realized that a lot of these guys aren't going to talk to me, and that's
00:51:55.320 why I kind of switched more to being really sarcastic about pointing out the hypocrisy,
00:51:59.320 and really more focusing on getting people to think about what's going on instead of,
00:52:03.320 you know, just listening to me bullshit them, you know?
00:52:06.320 Like, um, like for example, like with Lacey, the Lacey Green videos, uh, there's absolute
00:52:12.320 garbage in Lacey's videos, and I personally don't even think Lacey leaves half the shit
00:52:16.320 that she says, but, um, and the reason why I make the video responses is to point it out
00:52:20.320 and to say, okay, look, this is some terrible advice, let's, let's, let's think about something
00:52:25.320 else, let's try, this is different, you know, and other people will then come in and have
00:52:29.320 different conversations with me, and I think really, um, like I said, the whole point was
00:52:34.320 to start a discussion with different feminists, because it was really the whole rape culture
00:52:39.320 thing that really got me. It was, uh...
00:52:41.320 You, you, you honestly thought, at the, like, I'm guessing, you honestly thought that they
00:52:47.320 legitimately believed in all of this, and that you could speak to them like a human being,
00:52:52.320 and tell them your perspective that they just weren't aware of, and they'd say,
00:52:56.320 wow, I, I'm being a little bit of an asshole.
00:52:59.320 Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I thought, um, but, no, that's, that is not what happened,
00:53:03.320 um, and so then, I started making, and then a lot of other people started coming, actually,
00:53:08.320 I, I really didn't start getting a kick in this YouTube thing until I made, like, a video
00:53:13.320 about Elliot Rodgers, and the whole Elliot Rodgers thing happened, I made a video where I said
00:53:17.320 I was Elliot Rodgers, you know, like, I empathize with him, I understand why he became the way
00:53:22.320 he became, and then that's when people started coming and checking me out.
00:53:26.320 You know, when it comes to the videos on, like, feminism and, like, the left wing and all that,
00:53:31.320 that was, originally, I was really just trying to actually engage in conversation, but over time,
00:53:36.320 I kind of changed them or, you know, mock them and make people think about different things
00:53:40.320 at the same time. And then there's that, and then there's that, and, and growing up, I always, uh,
00:53:48.320 I was always bothered with, uh, our current society, our culture, because, I guess, people
00:53:53.320 have always said I had, like, an old man spirit, and there's always been some things that bothered me,
00:53:57.320 and so, that's why, there are other videos I make where I kind of talk about society, like,
00:54:02.320 rap music and different things, and other different, uh, stuff that I have on my channel.
00:54:07.320 So, it is, it was never really supposed to revolve around, like, just talking about feminism.
00:54:11.320 We were just kind of talking about, you know, like, the world that I see it.
00:54:14.320 And, I guess it's really easy to make fun of feminism, and feminism has a lot of power,
00:54:19.320 which is why I do talk about it a lot. But, uh, my channel isn't specifically focused on just
00:54:24.320 criticizing, uh, feminists.
00:54:27.320 It's, it's funny, it's almost the same story as the Becloff, who, well, what happened to him?
00:54:33.320 Is he was just trying to write, he writes, uh, landsharkattacks.blogspot, I don't know,
00:54:40.320 look, he writes on Reaction, just go there. He was just trying to write about comic books.
00:54:47.320 He didn't know what the Manosphere was, what the MRAs were, and then a bunch of SJW trolls
00:54:54.320 showed up and said, well, you're one of those Manosphere guys.
00:54:58.320 And he's like, what the hell is a Manosphere? And so he looks it up and he says, hey, these
00:55:01.320 guys are, these guys are alright.
00:55:03.320 Yeah, and that's what happened to me, too. Uh, I didn't even know I was a part of the Manosphere.
00:55:08.320 I mean, like, I was just talking about stuff, and just trying to make people think about
00:55:13.320 different topics. I didn't even know I was considered a part of it.
00:55:16.320 God saw me, folks! Hallelujah!
00:55:21.320 That's really how it happens. You just stand up one day and say, I'm sick of the bullshit.
00:55:27.320 And then you find out there's a giant culture war that you didn't even know was happening.
00:55:32.320 Yeah, exactly. I didn't even, I don't know. I was always the oddball when it came to things
00:55:38.320 I said, you know. So, uh, that's kind of how it all happened. Originally, I was supposed
00:55:44.320 to just, you know, make stuff like the Zeria show, just a comedy show, that I just put together
00:55:50.320 with myself, just different conversations I would think about. And so then, uh, you know,
00:55:56.320 from there, the video responses, you know, I, yeah. So, I don't know, I've definitely noticed,
00:56:01.320 there's definitely been a shift in, uh, how I used to do things, and I do things now.
00:56:05.320 And, uh, uh, you know, and it has been a change over time.
00:56:10.320 Well, you know what really stands out? And I meant to bring, bring this up way earlier,
00:56:16.320 but, uh, like, like, you started off as a comedy show. I just, you were just gonna poke
00:56:22.320 fun at intellectuals that were being a bit inconsistent in your view. You didn't, you didn't really see
00:56:27.320 a larger agenda or anything like that. And now, you're taking on, um, well, it doesn't matter who
00:56:35.320 you're taking on, because they're all united. Like, the mainstream media, the low-stream media,
00:56:40.320 they're, they're, they're united against us. But a couple of videos of yours really stood out to me,
00:56:46.320 where you were criticizing the Young Turks, and this group of, uh, I swear to God they looked like they
00:56:53.320 were 16 years old. But they were all, they were all angry at this woman that, that was raised in a, a lesbian
00:57:03.320 household, and then had the audacity to say, I wish I had a daddy growing up.
00:57:08.320 Exactly. I remember that one.
00:57:10.320 And the, the sheer nastiness coming out of it. Like, now,
00:57:15.320 Cenk. Cenk was completely misconstrued. Cenk's an asshole.
00:57:18.320 Yeah.
00:57:19.320 The hell with Cenk.
00:57:21.320 That guy's a complete prick. What really stood out to me was these, these kids
00:57:25.320 that were criticizing her and laughing at her, and dehumanizing her, and treating her like a brainwashed victim
00:57:33.320 un-person. Like, it was just so, it was very vicious. That, it, it's so interesting to be, these open-minded,
00:57:44.320 however you want to live, it's okay, okay. And they just, it was a two-minute hate.
00:57:50.320 Yeah. You know, the, the levels of hypocrisy that I see, you know, over on what you call the left-wing, you know,
00:57:57.320 and the feminists, it, it, is mind-blowing to me, really. Uh, and I just, I kind of have to wonder how they
00:58:02.320 live with themselves, really. How, how you can, how you can do that level of, like, double-think,
00:58:07.320 or how you can do, I don't know, it, it really does cause a great deal of cognitive dissonance to me.
00:58:13.320 When, like, in that video, that video, like, really, like, actually, the funny thing is, like, when, like, it, like,
00:58:18.320 the original footage for the response to Young Turks was really angry. I was really angry that they were actually
00:58:25.320 making fun of this woman, because, well, I know, the Young Turks were making fun of her, they were talking with her.
00:58:30.320 We're in the, the era of listen and believe. Yeah.
00:58:33.320 And this woman is writing about her, she says, I'm not angry at the gay community, I'm not angry at my, my two moms.
00:58:40.320 Yeah. I, I'm, I'm trying to fucking tell ya.
00:58:43.320 I wish I had a daddy.
00:58:47.320 Exactly.
00:58:48.320 Like, that, that, that heartfelt, and you're laughing at her as an un-person.
00:58:55.320 Good lord. You know what, go back to Rome. I'm sure you'd love watching those martyrs get eaten by lions.
00:59:02.320 Yeah, and that's the thing. It, it, it really, yeah, so, originally, I was really angry, and then, uh, I had to reshoot the footage,
00:59:09.320 because I, I figured, you know, uh, I don't know, I, I didn't wanna, I didn't wanna be angry.
00:59:13.320 And so, that's when I was really more, like, really more, I guess more sarcastic and ready with the second footage of the Young Turks video.
00:59:20.320 The, um, the video, the, um, the video, the, uh, I forgot, the, the prank, I forgot what they're called, but with the group of, uh, the Asian people.
00:59:30.320 Now, and I really wanna figure I'd just like to speak for themselves, because I just really wanted to show people that this is the world I'm living in right now,
00:59:36.320 and that a woman can say, look, I wish I had my dad, and they don't even understand the importance of father and grace to their children.
00:59:42.320 And a bunch, a bunch of chuckleheads can just laugh at her and ridicule her.
00:59:47.320 Yeah.
00:59:48.320 I mean, we get accused of misogyny.
00:59:52.320 I know, right? Of misogyny.
00:59:55.320 In the amount of times I've been accused of being a misogyny.
00:59:58.320 Oh, just wait for you, they're gonna call you a racist at some point, too, for crying out loud.
01:00:03.320 And, and, and, I have never dealt so disrespectfully with somebody, as, as they did.
01:00:16.320 Yeah.
01:00:17.320 Because, like, even, even though, even though I don't agree with everyone, I just, you know, I never would just, like, I don't, even when I say people are stupid, I don't really think that they're dumb people, you know?
01:00:30.320 It's really more like childish mocking, you know, like, you know, like, oh, you're an idiot, that's dumb.
01:00:34.320 You know, I don't ever actually think that these people don't have the ability to process information.
01:00:38.320 It's really more the hypocrisy that I want people to focus on.
01:00:41.320 It's not, it's not really the fact that they're just dumb idiots, it's that they're gigantic hypocrites.
01:00:47.320 And there's some level of cognitive dissonance that doesn't allow them to see it.
01:00:51.320 You, you say somebody's an idiot when you just demonstrate them contradicting themselves in the same speech, in the same video, you call them an idiot.
01:01:02.320 These people call her an idiot for disagreeing with the politically accepted belief system.
01:01:09.320 Yeah, exactly.
01:01:13.320 And it's absolutely monstrous.
01:01:15.320 Yeah.
01:01:16.320 And seriously, kudos to you for refilming that, because it really stands out, like the nastiness and vitriol of it all.
01:01:25.320 And you know, maybe this makes me sound like a queer, but Depeche Mode rots.
01:01:32.320 And nobody's watched Orgasmo.
01:01:36.320 But it really is a choice between love and hate.
01:01:43.320 Yeah.
01:01:44.320 Like when, you know, when I, when I get frustrated with people, like I have a more serious tone in my videos.
01:01:53.320 I'm angry, I'm Italian, I'm very good at being angry.
01:01:57.320 I'm passionate people, Mediterranean people.
01:02:01.320 Um, you, you are, like, we are very loving.
01:02:06.320 Yeah.
01:02:07.320 It's not about dehumanizing the person.
01:02:10.320 Mm.
01:02:11.320 It's about being frustrated with them, frustrated with the untruth.
01:02:15.320 Yeah, it's about, with me it's always about expecting more.
01:02:19.320 And I realize, I, I don't know if you call it, it's a double-edged sword.
01:02:23.320 I do expect a lot more from, from people who have these platforms and people who have this, this responsibility.
01:02:29.320 I think with great power comes great responsibility.
01:02:31.320 You know, like, in the whole honesty, Spider-Man did have a gigantic impact on my moral framework.
01:02:36.320 You know, because, and that's really what it is, it's a frustration with how you, you don't see that you have an effect on these people.
01:02:45.320 And that these people really do care about you.
01:02:48.320 And that you, you really have a chance to really instill value in these people and let them learn and let them grow.
01:02:55.320 But instead, you take advantage of that to just spread your propaganda and just spread your bullshit.
01:03:00.320 Like, to hell with these people who really actually care about you.
01:03:03.320 You're just using them.
01:03:04.320 And that, that, that bothers me about it too, you know?
01:03:07.320 The, the, the irony is that these people are all on the political left.
01:03:11.320 And, yeah, I don't know if you watched Captain Planet. Maybe it was before your time.
01:03:16.320 I did, I did, I used to watch Captain Planet a lot. I can't say I remember it, but I did use to catch it.
01:03:22.320 It wasn't very good.
01:03:23.320 But it's, like, the whole environmental mythos is that these evil corporations are just blindly and irresponsibly spreading, like, they, they invent a brand new chemical that does something kind of useful.
01:03:40.320 And then without any testing, without any, you know, well, how will this interact with organic cells, etc.
01:03:49.320 They just spread it all over the fucking planet.
01:03:52.320 You know, because there's a buck to be made.
01:03:55.320 And, you know, there is some truth to that.
01:03:59.320 The, listen, the environmental movement from the 60s, 70s.
01:04:03.320 You know, I, I've read some of the case law.
01:04:06.320 That's something I can get behind.
01:04:08.320 It, it, it infuriates me as a capitalist that these short-sighted CEOs allowed it to come to the point where we needed lobby groups.
01:04:19.320 You bloody idiots, you irresponsible fools.
01:04:24.320 But that, that's sort of what these people are doing.
01:04:26.320 Is they're glomming on to an idea, e.g. rape culture.
01:04:32.320 Mm-hmm.
01:04:33.320 And they're spreading it with absolutely no concern about the, the men that will be falsely accused.
01:04:40.320 Yeah.
01:04:41.320 The, the, what will happen to fraternities.
01:04:44.320 And they have to talk about the little boys, too, the children that get raised up.
01:04:48.320 I mean, what kind of dumb phrases teach boys not to rape?
01:04:52.320 Like, like, like, children, I mean, look, I mean, like, we were all children.
01:04:58.320 So you have to, like, on some level, what gets me is how some people don't understand the psychology of children.
01:05:04.320 Like, you were a kid at some point.
01:05:06.320 You have to, there, there has to be some part of you that remembers that, right?
01:05:09.320 You know, you, you don't ever instill in a child that their predispos-, their predisposition is to hurt people.
01:05:16.320 Because that causes them to hate themselves.
01:05:18.320 Like, most men, most boys, they don't want to hurt women.
01:05:20.320 They don't want to hurt anybody.
01:05:22.320 But if you tell them that they have this innate nature, they just end up hating themselves.
01:05:26.320 And you can't teach a child that he has the potential to just go around and hurt the people he loves the most.
01:05:32.320 Because that's not even his innate desire.
01:05:35.320 You know?
01:05:36.320 And this is so absolutely toxic with boys, especially.
01:05:40.320 Now, I don't know if you're an uncle yet, but...
01:05:43.320 I don't know what that is, but...
01:05:45.320 An uncle?
01:05:46.320 Oh, an uncle yet.
01:05:47.320 No, no, I'm not an uncle yet, no.
01:05:49.320 I thought you said uncle yet.
01:05:51.320 But no, I'm not an uncle yet.
01:05:55.320 Here's the thing about kids.
01:05:57.320 Little girls have all the confidence in the world.
01:06:02.320 This is genetically programmed into our species.
01:06:07.320 Little girls just know how valuable they are.
01:06:15.320 Whereas little boys are very shy and nervous and fragile.
01:06:23.320 A little boy needs to be challenged to be a man, but very gently and responsibly.
01:06:30.320 Yeah.
01:06:32.320 A girl knows that nothing bad is going to happen to her.
01:06:38.320 Maybe that's just contemporary child-rearing calls. I don't know.
01:06:41.320 But, when you target little boys, little boys are so desperate to seek approval.
01:06:50.320 Yes.
01:06:51.320 You know, even from, like, infancy, baby girls will cry more than baby boys.
01:06:58.320 Because a baby boy that cries too much gets thrown out.
01:07:02.320 Gets tossed into Moloch's arms.
01:07:04.320 Yeah.
01:07:05.320 Because, actually, like, if you pay attention to, like, the way boys go out and seek attention.
01:07:11.320 Like, boys don't ever actually just seek attention.
01:07:13.320 You know, they seek admiration for doing something worthwhile.
01:07:17.320 Yeah.
01:07:18.320 You know, that's what a lot of boys seek out is, you know, being told that they meant something
01:07:23.320 or that what they do means something to somebody else.
01:07:26.320 And they never really, like, need a gigantic show.
01:07:29.320 But that does happen if you don't get that, you know, like, from your father.
01:07:32.320 You know, going back to how your father plays a huge role in your life.
01:07:35.320 You know what?
01:07:36.320 Go ahead.
01:07:37.320 Yeah.
01:07:38.320 If you don't have a father, you wind up trying to seek the attention of other boys.
01:07:41.320 Mm-hmm.
01:07:42.320 Absolutely.
01:07:43.320 And the elder...
01:07:44.320 What kind of older boy hangs out with the younger boy?
01:07:47.320 The criminals.
01:07:48.320 Exactly.
01:07:49.320 Yeah.
01:07:50.320 So they encourage you to do criminal behavior to prove that you're a real man
01:07:53.320 wind up setting something on fire or selling drugs for a living.
01:07:57.320 And they blame this on...
01:07:58.320 No, the problem is not masculinity.
01:08:00.320 The problem is a deficit of masculinity that you engineered.
01:08:05.320 Yes.
01:08:06.320 Toxic masculinity is a symptom of feminism.
01:08:14.320 And you want to tell these little boys that they're all rapists?
01:08:20.320 Absolute monsters.
01:08:22.320 Exactly.
01:08:23.320 It's despicable to me.
01:08:24.320 What are the environmental consequences of your ideology?
01:08:29.320 And sometimes I kind of have to wonder, like, what exactly do they hope to gain?
01:08:35.320 You know?
01:08:36.320 Like...
01:08:37.320 Because I say this on my channel all the time.
01:08:39.320 Like, not every feminist is a bad person.
01:08:41.320 Like, a lot of feminists that I've noticed...
01:08:43.320 Well, I won't say a lot, but some of them are really egalitarians that just call themselves
01:08:47.320 feminists.
01:08:48.320 You know, if you talk to them, they figure it out.
01:08:50.320 You know what?
01:08:51.320 There's even the occasional Democrat that gets the charity.
01:08:55.320 Yeah.
01:08:56.320 Yeah.
01:08:57.320 Yeah.
01:08:58.320 Yeah.
01:08:59.320 But, um...
01:09:00.320 Yeah.
01:09:01.320 Some of these...
01:09:02.320 They're not...
01:09:03.320 They're not...
01:09:04.320 And I have to acknowledge that.
01:09:05.320 I know everybody.
01:09:06.320 You can't really say everyone is bad.
01:09:08.320 And I do want to stress that as a point on my channel, too.
01:09:10.320 Is you gotta treat different people differently.
01:09:13.320 You know?
01:09:14.320 But the feminists who do preach this propaganda, you know?
01:09:17.320 Specifically them.
01:09:18.320 I...
01:09:19.320 I don't understand what makes them think that they're going to help anybody else.
01:09:23.320 Like, either they're contested and ignorant on how children think, or they're just evil.
01:09:28.320 You know?
01:09:29.320 There's no other way to put it.
01:09:30.320 There's no other way to put it.
01:09:31.320 They're just evil to want to tell a child that their predisposition is to hurt other people.
01:09:37.320 You know what?
01:09:38.320 My...
01:09:39.320 Good lord.
01:09:40.320 My only response to that is...
01:09:44.320 You know what?
01:09:49.320 And this is going to happen to you.
01:09:51.320 And it's probably...
01:09:52.320 If it hasn't already, it's going to happen to a lot of people listening.
01:09:55.320 You are going to meet evil one day.
01:09:58.320 And it is both pathetic and sad, while also terrifying and dangerous.
01:10:07.320 You know what?
01:10:09.320 When you look at what a feminist does...
01:10:11.320 And again, a typical...
01:10:13.320 Take a Gail Dines or Anita Sarkeesian.
01:10:16.320 When you look at what they do with their lives.
01:10:19.320 Where they head.
01:10:21.320 What their results are.
01:10:23.320 It's...
01:10:26.320 Completely...
01:10:27.320 It's pointless.
01:10:28.320 I mean, like right now, Anita's making a few bucks, right?
01:10:33.320 But...
01:10:34.320 You know, what's the cost of that?
01:10:36.320 What's the world she's creating?
01:10:38.320 Is she creating a world where Anita Sarkeesian is happy and secure in her life?
01:10:43.320 Or is Anita Sarkeesian creating a very unstable and dangerous world where she has millions of enemies?
01:10:52.320 Evil doesn't make sense, and that's what's so terrifying about it.
01:10:59.320 It's sad and broken and pathetic.
01:11:02.320 But also, very, very dangerous to everyone around it.
01:11:07.320 And nobody wants to believe in evil.
01:11:11.320 Do you know that line from every sci-fi horror movie about vampires?
01:11:20.320 Where the vampire hunter says that no one would believe me if I told them?
01:11:24.320 Yeah.
01:11:25.320 You wouldn't believe me if I told you.
01:11:28.320 I used to think that was nonsense.
01:11:31.320 But it is absolutely true.
01:11:34.320 Nobody will believe you.
01:11:37.320 And if you start to show them evidence, if you start to show them the evil in the world, they will run away.
01:11:47.320 They will block it from their mind.
01:11:49.320 They will alter their own goddamn memories.
01:11:52.320 Just to avoid acknowledging the existence of this.
01:11:56.320 Because when you meet...
01:11:57.320 I'm not even talking about meeting the demonic.
01:12:00.320 I'm just talking about meeting a person that is so wrapped up in being evil that is such a narcissist or such a borderline.
01:12:08.320 That what they do is completely inexplicable.
01:12:12.320 Yeah.
01:12:13.320 Like, the sort of person that will...
01:12:17.320 Just, for example, they would pour lighter fluid on their own leg and light it on fire.
01:12:24.320 Just so they could phone the cops on you.
01:12:26.320 Because you forgot their birthday.
01:12:28.320 Yeah.
01:12:29.320 That's terrifying.
01:12:30.320 I agree with you on that.
01:12:32.320 Nobody wants to believe that exists.
01:12:34.320 But it does.
01:12:36.320 That's the crazy...
01:12:37.320 It does.
01:12:38.320 There are people...
01:12:39.320 I saw a video the other day of a woman literally, like, almost jumped out of the car.
01:12:45.320 And then was like, why did you throw me out?
01:12:47.320 Like, why did you, like, do this to me?
01:12:49.320 And the guy had it on camera.
01:12:50.320 Like, he's recording.
01:12:51.320 He's like, look, I didn't touch him.
01:12:52.320 Like, there are people who will legitimately do that.
01:12:55.320 It's...
01:12:56.320 And you're right.
01:12:57.320 It is terrifying.
01:12:58.320 It's scary.
01:12:59.320 That almost exactly happened to...
01:13:00.320 I saw that video as well.
01:13:02.320 Um...
01:13:03.320 Aaron Clary had almost that exact scenario.
01:13:05.320 Where...
01:13:06.320 A woman was threatening to throw herself out of the passenger seat on the highway.
01:13:11.320 Because he didn't offer to buy her a Slurpee at the gas station.
01:13:16.320 Damn.
01:13:17.320 When he...
01:13:18.320 He would have been happy to buy her one if she'd asked.
01:13:21.320 Like, the depth of evil does exist.
01:13:32.320 And it is just so horrifying that...
01:13:34.320 We want easy evil.
01:13:39.320 We want understandable evil.
01:13:41.320 You know, we want the Nazis.
01:13:42.320 We want the Red Skull.
01:13:44.320 Yeah.
01:13:45.320 We want cartoon villains.
01:13:47.320 We want Eva.
01:13:52.320 So, it's all around us and...
01:13:57.320 Now...
01:13:58.320 This is an interesting thing.
01:13:59.320 Uh...
01:14:00.320 Corny commented to me that, uh...
01:14:02.320 He thinks that there's a lot of...
01:14:08.320 the Manosphere is very dark.
01:14:13.320 The people in the Manosphere...
01:14:14.320 Anasphere.
01:14:16.240 You, me, him, etc.
01:14:19.320 We are very
01:14:20.280 aware of darkness. I think it goes for
01:14:22.140 most of the subscribers
01:14:24.240 on here. These are people that are aware of darkness.
01:14:28.800 This is something I've
01:14:30.100 found speaking to priests.
01:14:34.080 I'm not talking about
01:14:36.100 your BS priest.
01:14:39.120 Hey, whatever feels good,
01:14:40.680 give me money.
01:14:42.220 Profits be with you.
01:14:43.380 You know, I'm talking
01:14:45.340 like real legitimate priests that I have respect
01:14:47.360 for, that I've seen perform good acts,
01:14:51.360 are
01:14:51.600 downright
01:14:52.180 terrified
01:14:54.300 of evil.
01:14:58.220 Do you have any thoughts on that?
01:15:01.400 Because you're not terrified
01:15:03.220 of evil. I mean, you are, but
01:15:04.860 as much as I am, I'm bloody terrified
01:15:07.620 by it.
01:15:09.760 I mean, yeah.
01:15:11.240 Honestly,
01:15:11.760 one of my favorite scriptures
01:15:14.220 in the Bible is, you know,
01:15:16.140 do not treat evil for evil,
01:15:18.640 but defeat evil with good.
01:15:20.520 I think
01:15:20.880 Romans is probably my favorite book in the Bible.
01:15:23.940 Romans, Matthew,
01:15:25.380 both my favorite books in the Bible.
01:15:27.240 But
01:15:27.480 it's that scripture right there.
01:15:29.520 You have to be evil with good.
01:15:30.880 And, uh, that's what I try to do
01:15:33.180 with, uh,
01:15:34.040 with honesty
01:15:34.860 and being straightforward.
01:15:37.300 Because that's the only way,
01:15:38.580 that's the only way you can combat evil.
01:15:40.540 You gotta face it down.
01:15:44.200 Yeah, we don't
01:15:45.180 defeat social justice warriors with hate.
01:15:47.280 We defeat them with love.
01:15:48.740 Yeah.
01:15:49.840 Because, and I think
01:15:50.960 one interesting thing
01:15:52.100 that I always say is, um,
01:15:54.520 especially when it comes to, like,
01:15:55.560 the slut-shaming videos
01:15:57.080 is when people will say,
01:15:58.400 you know, uh,
01:15:59.340 you're misogynistic
01:16:00.720 or you hate women.
01:16:01.760 And, like, well,
01:16:02.500 well, think about it for a second,
01:16:03.820 you know,
01:16:04.000 while you're calling me a misogynist.
01:16:05.780 If I think you're doing something wrong
01:16:07.960 and I say,
01:16:09.100 maybe you shouldn't do that,
01:16:11.000 explain to me how I hate you.
01:16:12.980 You know, like,
01:16:14.040 I evidently have to care about you
01:16:16.080 on some level
01:16:16.860 if I don't think you should do something
01:16:18.640 that I think is detrimental to you.
01:16:20.680 And that's not me saying
01:16:21.700 that you can't do it.
01:16:22.840 I mean, physically you can.
01:16:24.340 But maybe you should think about it.
01:16:25.800 And I think that's,
01:16:26.960 you know,
01:16:27.220 that's the best way to go about it.
01:16:29.520 Instead of, you know,
01:16:30.260 you can't really tell people
01:16:31.480 what they can and can't do
01:16:32.500 because physically they can.
01:16:34.260 It's more about giving them the option.
01:16:35.920 It's more about telling them
01:16:36.820 that they can choose
01:16:38.080 what they want to do.
01:16:39.520 But you gotta think about
01:16:40.560 the consequences.
01:16:41.500 And I don't think a lot of,
01:16:42.500 uh,
01:16:43.120 a lot of these feminists
01:16:43.980 and social justice warriors
01:16:44.900 want to even acknowledge
01:16:46.520 the consequence.
01:16:47.440 I think that terrifies them
01:16:48.980 a lot more
01:16:49.900 than the act itself.
01:16:50.960 You know,
01:16:52.000 the mere fact that
01:16:52.680 you even have to face something
01:16:54.680 happening to you
01:16:55.740 is why they try to avoid it
01:16:57.500 or why they say
01:16:58.200 I hate them
01:16:58.700 or something like that.
01:16:59.900 Well, you know,
01:17:00.640 that I think perfectly sums up
01:17:02.400 everything with,
01:17:04.180 um,
01:17:05.220 with the left,
01:17:06.020 with the social justice,
01:17:07.300 with the,
01:17:08.440 I don't know,
01:17:08.900 to be melodramatic,
01:17:11.240 the enemies of God,
01:17:12.640 is that they,
01:17:13.680 they want to deny
01:17:15.940 consequences.
01:17:17.320 you know,
01:17:18.740 I,
01:17:18.880 I wish I could remember
01:17:20.140 who wrote this,
01:17:21.500 but somebody said that
01:17:22.820 God never punishes you.
01:17:24.960 God warns you
01:17:26.900 about the consequences
01:17:28.860 of your actions,
01:17:30.100 but God never punishes you.
01:17:33.600 You know,
01:17:34.280 God's the one
01:17:35.640 trying to save you
01:17:36.940 for crying out loud.
01:17:38.440 You know,
01:17:38.680 he's the one trying to say
01:17:39.480 that,
01:17:39.740 listen,
01:17:40.660 if you do this,
01:17:41.920 there will be consequences.
01:17:44.180 Please don't.
01:17:45.140 I didn't think about that.
01:17:49.220 And the whole,
01:17:50.600 the whole leftist paradigm
01:17:52.960 is this world
01:17:54.320 without consequences.
01:17:56.740 You know,
01:17:57.360 where you get to
01:17:58.300 have as much
01:18:00.140 bizarre sex
01:18:01.300 as you want
01:18:01.940 with as many partners
01:18:03.680 as you want
01:18:04.300 and you never,
01:18:06.480 your future
01:18:08.020 wife or husband
01:18:10.560 does not judge you
01:18:12.140 based upon your past behavior.
01:18:13.480 You know,
01:18:18.760 this world where
01:18:19.820 you get a completely
01:18:20.860 useless degree
01:18:21.660 and yet you still
01:18:23.600 get a job
01:18:24.660 paying,
01:18:25.980 you know,
01:18:26.500 the,
01:18:26.660 the high
01:18:27.940 five figures.
01:18:33.680 They reject the consequences
01:18:35.420 of their behavior.
01:18:37.980 You know,
01:18:38.800 don't tell kids
01:18:40.920 not to play in the street.
01:18:41.960 You tell the street
01:18:42.820 not to run over kids
01:18:43.960 that play there.
01:18:45.040 Yeah,
01:18:45.560 yeah,
01:18:45.900 and,
01:18:46.300 and,
01:18:46.600 and that makes sense
01:18:47.620 to them.
01:18:48.420 That makes sense
01:18:49.420 somehow.
01:18:50.100 I,
01:18:50.120 I,
01:18:50.780 I don't know.
01:18:51.960 It's really crazy to me.
01:18:54.880 Yeah.
01:18:55.940 And I think,
01:18:56.800 you know,
01:18:57.000 the interesting thing
01:18:58.040 about that is,
01:18:58.840 you know,
01:18:59.140 nobody,
01:19:00.640 I think it was you
01:19:01.340 who said it
01:19:01.920 in one of your videos
01:19:03.200 on evil,
01:19:03.680 you know,
01:19:03.860 it was,
01:19:04.380 you know,
01:19:05.060 a lot of people
01:19:05.720 are really seeking
01:19:06.460 good things.
01:19:07.680 You know,
01:19:07.880 evil's just going
01:19:08.560 about it in the wrong way.
01:19:09.700 And I think,
01:19:11.260 in a certain extent,
01:19:12.260 I'm sure a lot of them,
01:19:13.060 they really want to do
01:19:13.980 good things.
01:19:15.680 I,
01:19:15.880 I,
01:19:16.500 for the record,
01:19:17.120 I miss that naivete.
01:19:20.020 I really wish
01:19:21.180 most evil
01:19:21.800 was good people
01:19:22.820 seeking after
01:19:24.000 good things
01:19:24.680 in a bad way.
01:19:26.320 I'm not,
01:19:26.720 I didn't say
01:19:27.080 they're good people,
01:19:27.820 but I mean,
01:19:28.120 they're seeking after
01:19:28.780 something good,
01:19:29.800 or at least
01:19:30.040 they think
01:19:30.380 it's good.
01:19:33.700 Yeah.
01:19:34.140 One of the things
01:19:38.500 I've,
01:19:38.880 one of the things
01:19:40.560 I've begun to notice
01:19:41.500 is how crime
01:19:43.820 demands to be punished.
01:19:48.720 Where,
01:19:49.960 like,
01:19:51.200 listen,
01:19:51.460 if you and I,
01:19:53.060 now I am,
01:19:53.700 I'm certain
01:19:54.360 that,
01:19:55.060 that you,
01:19:55.600 everybody,
01:19:56.420 listen,
01:19:56.780 we've all had the
01:19:57.640 conversation about
01:19:58.560 how I would rob
01:19:59.740 a bank.
01:20:01.960 Or,
01:20:02.480 or what have you.
01:20:03.220 We've all discussed
01:20:04.060 committing a crime
01:20:04.960 in an intelligent way
01:20:07.080 where we profit
01:20:08.460 from the whole thing.
01:20:12.300 But that's not
01:20:13.320 why criminals
01:20:14.260 commit crimes.
01:20:15.620 It's not because
01:20:16.760 they think
01:20:17.260 they could profit.
01:20:18.700 Ultimately,
01:20:19.800 none of us
01:20:20.560 robbed that bank,
01:20:22.480 even though we had
01:20:23.160 the perfect getaway car
01:20:24.360 and the perfect plan,
01:20:25.680 et cetera.
01:20:27.360 None of us
01:20:28.060 did that,
01:20:29.120 not just because
01:20:31.700 we would be punished,
01:20:33.140 but because it's not
01:20:33.940 what we do.
01:20:34.960 We're not dishonest people.
01:20:38.760 The recent episode,
01:20:40.300 Better Call Saul,
01:20:41.840 really illustrated
01:20:43.040 how the,
01:20:43.760 the con artist
01:20:45.060 does it
01:20:46.840 because it's
01:20:47.240 what they do.
01:20:48.420 They like creating
01:20:49.540 elaborate fiction
01:20:50.500 that are,
01:20:51.080 that are false.
01:20:52.420 criminals are demanding
01:21:02.620 to be caught.
01:21:05.040 You know,
01:21:05.440 they don't just
01:21:06.000 commit a couple
01:21:06.720 of crimes intelligently.
01:21:08.200 They eventually
01:21:09.000 need to commit
01:21:09.700 the stupid crime.
01:21:17.520 And honestly,
01:21:18.240 that's something
01:21:18.560 I really see
01:21:19.300 with Sarkeesian.
01:21:24.040 It wasn't enough
01:21:25.060 just to make
01:21:25.820 a whole bunch
01:21:27.060 of banks
01:21:27.620 making a bunch
01:21:29.400 of videos
01:21:30.040 a la,
01:21:30.740 in Lindsay Ellis.
01:21:32.980 She needed
01:21:33.680 to become
01:21:33.960 a consultant
01:21:34.580 for
01:21:35.160 whichever
01:21:37.000 processor company
01:21:38.140 it was.
01:21:39.540 Totally,
01:21:39.920 I think it was Intel?
01:21:40.820 Yeah.
01:21:41.000 Yeah, Intel.
01:21:48.080 There's,
01:21:48.400 there's an ugly
01:21:49.060 insanity to evil.
01:21:52.460 There's a,
01:21:53.620 a complete,
01:21:54.460 like,
01:21:54.700 it's not just
01:21:55.380 trying to
01:21:56.640 get what you want
01:21:58.020 through the wrong
01:21:58.860 methods.
01:22:01.420 Eventually,
01:22:02.060 it becomes,
01:22:03.280 this is exactly
01:22:04.960 what you wanted
01:22:05.540 the entire time.
01:22:11.000 you wanted
01:22:15.820 prison,
01:22:16.240 you wanted
01:22:16.640 your name
01:22:17.040 to be dragged
01:22:17.520 through the mud.
01:22:18.140 You wanted
01:22:18.640 all of these
01:22:21.380 things.
01:22:25.240 Kind of a
01:22:26.100 economic reveal
01:22:27.240 preference
01:22:27.780 sort of a thing.
01:22:31.140 Gotcha.
01:22:33.760 Anyway,
01:22:34.040 let's,
01:22:34.480 um,
01:22:35.100 shift gears
01:22:35.780 a little bit.
01:22:37.040 Uh,
01:22:38.560 why the hell
01:22:39.140 are you and I
01:22:40.020 making bank
01:22:45.860 being let's
01:22:46.640 play
01:22:47.120 wizards
01:22:48.520 and critiquing
01:22:51.380 pop?
01:22:51.700 Why,
01:22:51.860 why the hell
01:22:52.480 are we?
01:22:55.080 Well,
01:22:55.680 well,
01:22:55.840 the simple answer
01:22:56.580 is because
01:22:57.040 we give a fuck
01:22:58.160 about people.
01:22:58.920 That's,
01:22:59.600 that's why.
01:23:01.040 Yeah,
01:23:01.500 it's,
01:23:02.420 and it's,
01:23:03.060 it's not about
01:23:04.000 just indulging,
01:23:05.600 you know,
01:23:06.440 ourselves.
01:23:07.040 It's about actually
01:23:07.740 producing content
01:23:08.980 that does
01:23:09.720 something for
01:23:10.280 other people.
01:23:12.180 Yeah.
01:23:13.460 Not to
01:23:13.900 stroke my own
01:23:14.400 ego,
01:23:14.760 but I mean,
01:23:15.200 that,
01:23:15.440 that's what I
01:23:15.840 try to do
01:23:16.380 is give them
01:23:17.240 something to
01:23:17.780 work with
01:23:18.260 or something
01:23:19.180 that'll help
01:23:20.060 them.
01:23:21.980 Yeah.
01:23:23.260 As opposed to,
01:23:24.220 uh,
01:23:24.460 I guess a lot
01:23:25.020 of these different
01:23:25.520 narcissistic people
01:23:26.740 I've seen on YouTube
01:23:27.380 all the time.
01:23:30.240 Go on.
01:23:32.000 Gosh.
01:23:33.660 Man,
01:23:34.340 uh,
01:23:34.920 I,
01:23:35.740 but anyway,
01:23:36.440 let's not name names.
01:23:37.700 Let's,
01:23:38.480 yeah,
01:23:38.860 we'll have to name names,
01:23:40.320 but it's way easier
01:23:41.360 to criticize people
01:23:42.280 without targeting them
01:23:43.320 specifically.
01:23:44.660 Yeah,
01:23:45.020 but I mean,
01:23:45.420 there's a plethora
01:23:46.260 to choose from,
01:23:46.960 but let's,
01:23:47.300 you don't have to.
01:23:48.360 The,
01:23:48.520 the,
01:23:48.740 one gigantic problem
01:23:50.280 that I really see
01:23:51.620 with these people,
01:23:52.560 these bloggers,
01:23:53.260 is that ultimately
01:23:54.940 a lot of them
01:23:56.300 are actually
01:23:56.960 very sad people
01:23:58.460 and they'll even
01:24:00.060 make videos
01:24:00.800 and they'll admit
01:24:01.900 to being depressed,
01:24:02.980 they'll admit to being sad,
01:24:04.320 they'll admit to
01:24:05.100 having all these
01:24:06.120 different kinds
01:24:06.680 of deficits
01:24:07.260 and yet
01:24:08.260 they have this platform
01:24:09.900 where they just have
01:24:10.540 people feeding their egos
01:24:12.080 and just feeding that shell
01:24:13.540 that we were talking about earlier
01:24:14.460 and just feeding that
01:24:15.380 and it's just not
01:24:16.780 conducive to anything
01:24:18.420 and it's just not
01:24:19.660 going to help
01:24:20.380 these people in the long run.
01:24:21.480 What they need
01:24:22.320 is to be challenged
01:24:23.740 with the need
01:24:24.420 is to actually
01:24:24.960 work through the problems
01:24:25.900 and if they want to keep
01:24:26.820 making their comments
01:24:27.440 that's fine,
01:24:28.520 but to continue
01:24:29.660 to feed off of that,
01:24:31.000 that,
01:24:31.340 that's the ultimate problem
01:24:32.600 with a narcissist
01:24:33.320 and an egotistical person
01:24:35.280 and that's what I see
01:24:36.440 in a lot of these
01:24:37.240 different bloggers,
01:24:38.020 they're,
01:24:38.320 they're so sad,
01:24:39.600 they're so depressed
01:24:40.520 and there's just
01:24:41.620 a lot of people
01:24:42.620 who are just so sad
01:24:44.160 and they just get
01:24:44.900 this massive platform
01:24:46.060 to just indulge themselves
01:24:48.120 in the attention
01:24:48.900 I guess
01:24:49.220 they never got
01:24:49.800 when they're younger.
01:24:51.800 Yes,
01:24:52.080 one huge problem
01:24:53.220 I see happening here.
01:24:54.180 You know,
01:24:55.380 I suspect a huge part
01:24:56.560 of it
01:24:56.840 is that
01:24:58.420 people want to see
01:25:01.680 other people
01:25:02.100 being miserable.
01:25:05.500 Isn't that exactly
01:25:07.260 what reality TV is?
01:25:09.200 Yeah,
01:25:09.760 yeah,
01:25:10.780 yeah.
01:25:12.780 That's why,
01:25:13.520 that's why I'm watching.
01:25:14.600 I can't stand reality TV.
01:25:16.260 Like,
01:25:16.520 actually,
01:25:17.060 I think one of my,
01:25:18.400 my philosophy professor
01:25:20.320 put it best.
01:25:21.840 He said,
01:25:22.280 one day one of my friends
01:25:23.500 told me,
01:25:23.960 we go watch
01:25:24.580 Keeping Up with the Kardashians.
01:25:26.580 So he said,
01:25:27.040 I caught it on
01:25:27.600 and I watched it
01:25:28.380 and I said,
01:25:29.600 thank God
01:25:30.240 these people have money.
01:25:32.060 So he sat there
01:25:32.740 and he said,
01:25:33.100 now,
01:25:33.260 now,
01:25:33.520 why would I possibly
01:25:34.320 say that?
01:25:35.280 He said,
01:25:35.600 because these people
01:25:36.420 are absolutely miserable.
01:25:38.720 Thank God
01:25:39.480 they have money
01:25:40.260 because their lives
01:25:41.600 are terrible
01:25:42.300 and he's exactly
01:25:43.540 why I'm there.
01:25:44.360 These people
01:25:44.960 are miserable
01:25:45.980 and they have
01:25:47.140 these gigantic platforms
01:25:48.600 to do nothing
01:25:49.700 but feed their narcissism.
01:25:51.900 And it's just terrible
01:25:52.960 to me,
01:25:53.420 you know,
01:25:53.640 that nobody
01:25:54.740 affirms them
01:25:56.100 and really tells them
01:25:57.020 that,
01:25:57.280 you know,
01:25:57.540 look,
01:25:57.860 listen,
01:25:58.180 you don't have to
01:25:58.840 make a fool out of yourself
01:25:59.900 and exploit your life.
01:26:01.500 You know,
01:26:01.760 you need to fix your problems
01:26:03.000 and if you want to keep,
01:26:04.000 you know,
01:26:04.780 doing the comedy videos,
01:26:05.860 that's perfectly fine
01:26:06.740 but you can't feed off that,
01:26:08.360 you know?
01:26:08.640 there's nothing wrong
01:26:11.080 with being a clown.
01:26:12.620 Yeah.
01:26:13.580 You know,
01:26:13.960 but don't
01:26:15.280 live like a clown.
01:26:18.500 Putting on an outfit
01:26:19.460 and making people laugh,
01:26:20.560 that's,
01:26:20.880 that's honorable,
01:26:21.620 that's good,
01:26:22.220 that's fine.
01:26:23.900 Yeah.
01:26:30.420 That's brilliant though.
01:26:31.560 Thank God
01:26:32.000 these people have money
01:26:32.860 because they fucking need it.
01:26:38.640 Yeah.
01:26:41.160 The sad thing is
01:26:42.140 that people are aspiring
01:26:43.100 to be that these days.
01:26:44.880 Yeah.
01:26:46.200 And,
01:26:46.640 and you can,
01:26:47.280 you can see the misery
01:26:48.380 in their lives
01:26:49.140 and it's just,
01:26:50.820 it's just a really sad thing to me,
01:26:52.200 you know?
01:26:53.580 Uh,
01:26:54.660 it's really sad to see.
01:26:56.840 You know,
01:26:57.080 these people are catty,
01:26:58.480 they're in a bunch of drama
01:26:59.580 and I think one,
01:27:01.120 one of you I saw
01:27:01.900 the other day
01:27:02.700 kind of really put it best to me.
01:27:04.400 Um,
01:27:05.000 so there's,
01:27:05.480 there's this,
01:27:05.940 there's this girl
01:27:06.500 and it's like Piddle Ass
01:27:07.720 and she was dating this guy
01:27:09.700 named Syndicate,
01:27:10.700 right?
01:27:10.980 And they're both vloggers
01:27:11.860 and they both do videos together.
01:27:13.260 And then when they broke up,
01:27:14.660 a bunch of different subscribers
01:27:16.440 in each of their communities,
01:27:17.820 you know,
01:27:18.180 were going back and forth about it.
01:27:19.940 And so Kate made a video
01:27:21.560 where she was talking about,
01:27:22.920 you know,
01:27:23.120 her personal life
01:27:23.860 and what happened.
01:27:24.900 And I was sitting there thinking that,
01:27:26.340 you know,
01:27:26.520 this is,
01:27:27.020 this is the price
01:27:27.960 of when you exploit yourself
01:27:29.480 to get fake.
01:27:31.140 That people be having
01:27:32.300 an invested interest
01:27:33.320 in what you're doing
01:27:34.220 and now you can,
01:27:35.240 you can hardly even have
01:27:36.260 a private life
01:27:36.960 because you spent
01:27:37.640 your entire life
01:27:38.600 just airing about
01:27:39.420 your personal details
01:27:40.460 to a bunch of people
01:27:41.620 you've never even met.
01:27:43.140 You know,
01:27:43.280 you might see something
01:27:43.980 like VidCon,
01:27:44.880 but I mean,
01:27:45.360 it's millions of people
01:27:46.360 and you're just,
01:27:46.760 you're just exploiting
01:27:47.520 your own problems,
01:27:48.920 you know,
01:27:49.200 for what?
01:27:50.200 It's not to fix them,
01:27:51.360 it's just,
01:27:52.040 you know,
01:27:52.240 you get this platform
01:27:53.060 and I think it's terrible
01:27:55.440 that this is what
01:27:56.800 people aspire to be.
01:27:57.880 You know,
01:27:58.060 these are like,
01:27:59.380 you know,
01:27:59.600 these are role models
01:28:00.500 and they're not role models.
01:28:01.780 They're not people
01:28:02.320 who fix their problems.
01:28:03.940 They're people
01:28:04.480 who indulge
01:28:05.980 in their problems
01:28:06.840 or I don't know,
01:28:08.260 I guess,
01:28:08.720 you know,
01:28:08.940 because it just,
01:28:09.960 it tries to fill in a void
01:28:11.000 of a deficit
01:28:11.560 that they very fully have
01:28:13.080 but nobody wants
01:28:14.300 to address.
01:28:17.360 Yeah,
01:28:17.900 the,
01:28:18.300 the,
01:28:18.900 voyeuristic society.
01:28:23.040 Yeah,
01:28:23.540 I saw this
01:28:24.220 cartoon picture
01:28:25.680 which,
01:28:28.160 it was like the,
01:28:29.020 it was supposed to be
01:28:29.680 this cartoon
01:28:30.960 of the United States
01:28:32.080 where you had like
01:28:33.780 soldiers on the outside
01:28:35.180 facing outwards
01:28:36.240 and then police
01:28:36.960 facing inwards
01:28:37.920 and then the American
01:28:38.880 family in the middle
01:28:39.860 and they're just
01:28:40.640 watching the boob tube.
01:28:41.900 but it's,
01:28:45.940 you know,
01:28:46.300 they,
01:28:46.480 they,
01:28:46.600 they act like
01:28:47.660 the,
01:28:47.920 the boob tube
01:28:48.840 is addicting you,
01:28:51.000 like it's tricking you
01:28:52.520 into watching this garbage.
01:28:54.700 but with the internet,
01:28:57.940 like with the,
01:28:59.620 we are seeing
01:29:00.660 the agency
01:29:01.680 every time
01:29:02.900 one of these
01:29:03.740 SJWs
01:29:04.920 sends an angry tweet
01:29:06.080 to you or me,
01:29:07.620 we are seeing
01:29:08.660 the agency
01:29:09.560 of voluntarily,
01:29:12.460 not just voluntarily
01:29:13.740 watching the boob tube
01:29:14.840 but eagerly
01:29:16.160 participating
01:29:16.480 participating
01:29:17.240 in that reality.
01:29:25.820 You know,
01:29:26.440 if God is very kind,
01:29:28.240 there's going to be
01:29:28.840 a great culling
01:29:29.740 of the human race
01:29:30.960 where all
01:29:32.960 of the narcissists
01:29:33.880 just won't have children.
01:29:42.360 I don't think
01:29:43.120 he's going to be
01:29:43.460 that kind
01:29:44.020 but that would,
01:29:44.820 that would,
01:29:45.340 that would certainly
01:29:46.300 be a utopia,
01:29:47.340 wouldn't it?
01:29:49.240 That would be amazing.
01:29:51.220 If,
01:29:51.500 if everybody that
01:29:52.560 obsessed over
01:29:53.780 human drama
01:29:54.560 on the internet,
01:29:57.280 yeah,
01:29:57.580 as opposed to ideas,
01:29:58.560 as opposed to philosophy,
01:29:59.720 as opposed to whatever,
01:30:02.480 if all those people
01:30:03.420 just stopped
01:30:03.900 having babies
01:30:04.800 and they,
01:30:05.580 they just,
01:30:08.800 I don't know,
01:30:09.400 I don't know
01:30:09.840 what they'd have to do.
01:30:10.640 Just,
01:30:10.920 we'll do something else.
01:30:11.960 I don't know.
01:30:12.620 Do you know what
01:30:13.140 there'll be
01:30:13.500 in,
01:30:13.920 in future
01:30:14.720 versions of Dungeons
01:30:16.280 and Dragons
01:30:16.840 and they'll be
01:30:17.760 the,
01:30:17.960 the dead-eyed
01:30:18.660 ones?
01:30:22.700 CR rating
01:30:23.600 of three.
01:30:28.800 Anyway,
01:30:29.440 we've been going
01:30:30.240 for a while.
01:30:31.920 Xurus,
01:30:32.240 you got any last
01:30:33.000 thoughts for the
01:30:33.680 folks out there?
01:30:34.400 last thoughts.
01:30:37.540 I don't know.
01:30:38.780 Thanks for,
01:30:39.660 thanks for,
01:30:40.280 you know,
01:30:40.660 listening to us talk.
01:30:42.360 I rather enjoyed
01:30:43.400 speaking with
01:30:44.100 E. Davis
01:30:44.940 and great times.
01:30:47.120 And,
01:30:47.880 I don't know,
01:30:48.880 last thoughts.
01:30:50.620 I enjoyed it.
01:30:52.200 Hopefully,
01:30:52.780 somebody got something
01:30:53.620 out of what we said
01:30:55.100 and hopefully
01:30:56.140 we didn't hurt
01:30:56.680 too many feelings today.
01:30:57.820 you know what,
01:30:59.740 that sets off
01:31:00.380 my last thought
01:31:01.160 is that,
01:31:02.700 listen,
01:31:03.180 everybody listening,
01:31:03.940 you know who you are.
01:31:05.880 You know,
01:31:06.380 if there's a label
01:31:07.400 that you identify with
01:31:10.160 and I made fun
01:31:10.700 of the label,
01:31:12.720 is that you?
01:31:14.880 If it isn't,
01:31:15.700 then I didn't make
01:31:16.280 fun of you.
01:31:18.260 So,
01:31:19.600 final thought,
01:31:21.840 try and minimize
01:31:22.860 the butt hurt.
01:31:25.640 Xur's absolute pleasure
01:31:27.140 and folks,