SatW Livestream 2026-06-18： Saviour Complex
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 9 minutes
Harmful content
Misogyny
49
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Toxicity
268
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Hate speech
106
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Summary
In the first episode of the new season of Gimlet, we re talking about the savior complex, pickles, and the pickle crusader. Featuring music by JT and the Human Resources Department, and a story about a pickle cart at a local market.
Transcript
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and let's see testing one two one two check check one two radio check one two
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mic check live it appears that we are live and good lord this meat is hitting
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me very well tonight if you're asking so guys I was in a different town and
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apparently this mean it's a local thing they only sell it in southern Alberta
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and I was up in central Alberta which is a good six and a half hour drive
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Alberta's pretty large. This isn't like America, where you drive two hours and
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you're three states over. No, we're in the untamed wild west, the vast
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frozen expanses of the true north here. So I was up there, but they didn't have my
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brand of mead. And so quite foolishly, I picked the first one off of the shelf
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that I saw and it was about 99% cranberry juice which if you know
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anything about cranberry juice was 99% apple juice and if you were lucky lucky
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seven percent alcohol I felt like a 40 year old divorcee that worked for the
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human resources department speaking of working for the human resources
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department the human resources department also known as JT has some
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music for us. So let's paste and go. We're gonna turn off the speakers and we're
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gonna be playing it through here. So there, that looks like some music playing
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to me. You folks tell me in the questions, comments, concerns box whether or not you
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can hear it. So, yes, most of what you see called mead is not mead. It's some
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sparkling wine. It's utter garbage. Utter garbage. You know what the ingredients
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on this bottle of fallen timber are honey some sort of bacteria or whatever
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it is that makes it alcohol and an aged whiskey barrel this is mead I feel the
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Viking blood of my ancestors coursing through my veins and yes I am Italian
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with Viking ancestors that's that's just a fact of nature so we are going to be
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This is something worth discussing, but, but, but, before we get to it, you may have noticed
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I swear, I spent half of yesterday trying to get Grok to draw me tarot cards in black
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and white ink and today it's just spontaneously drawing black and white
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which is fine which is fine it's a fine title card I just needed something but
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you might have been wondering what is the story behind all this screaming
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about pickles and wait a minute wait a minute I want to try something are we
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reconnected. It says we're reconnected. We should have a better bitrate at this
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point. Let us have a better bitrate. Once I see it on screen I'll know that it
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actually happened. Yes, the stream is blessed now. It's still
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complaining about the bitrate, but it is a blessed stream. I thought a fun place
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to start this would be a friend of mine asked Grok to write a story about yours
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truly. Disrupting an artisanal pickle encounter full of hipsters. So let me
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Let me read you this ribald and classic tale for the ages.
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The Bushwick Warehouse Market was already vibrating with the low hum of pour-over grinders and Macbook keyboards
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when the door burst open like a budget action movie.
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In strode Davis Arini, leather duster flapping dramatically despite the 82-degree heat,
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mirrored aviators in a faded traditional masculinity t-shirt stretched over a physique that screamed,
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His hair was slick back. This is where it gets it wrong.
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His turtle wax skull was glowing like it was the apocalypse.
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him. A GoPro was already rolling on his chest rig. He was loud, obnoxiously loud. Look at this shit,
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he bellowed, voice cutting through the gentle indie folk playlist like a chainsaw. Heads turned,
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beards twitched in discomfort. Ezra Thornhill froze mid-brine lick. Plastic clamshell still in
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hand, mustache glistening. Juniper clutched her iced oat milk, lavender latte like a shield.
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Dave is zeroed in like a heat-seeking missile.
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Holy fuck, would you look at this specimen.
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Skinny jeans so tight I can see his fucking principal shriveling.
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Hey, fickle boy, that's a clousin, you absolute clown.
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Your deconstructed working class's ferment is a goddamn factory fickle from New Jersey.
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Ezra tried to recover with dignity, clearing his throat.
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Actually, the lack of narrative is what it makes it so...
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Narrative, Davis roared, stepping closer so the whole market could enjoy the show.
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You're out here deep-throating a plastic pickle like it's high art while real men are out there building shit.
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This is why your birth rates are in the toilet.
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You're all so busy smelling your own farts and curating vibes that you can't even pick a real woman over a fermented cucumber.
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Someone's fixed-gear bike got knocked over in the shuffle.
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He snatched the empty clamshell from Ezra's hand and waved it like Exhibit A.
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This hipster right here spent 20 minutes photographing a supermarket pickle.
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I've seen Taliban fighters with less commitment to their cause.
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You people's gentrified neighborhoods, price out normal folks,
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then cosplay as oppressed with your $9 avocado toast and pronoun pins.
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Ezra, cheeks burning under his artisanal beard oil, stammered back.
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This is performative masculinity as a crutch for fragile ego structures.
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Davis laughed out loud, enough to rattle the exposed bricks.
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Says the guy wearing skinny jeans and a $300 vintage flannel that looks like my grandpa's work shirt?
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Drinking shitty sour beer and listening to bands that sound like depressed whales fucking?
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Grow a pair, get some sun that isn't from a filtered Instagram story,
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and stop pretending grocery store pickles are a spiritual experience.
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You're literally filming this for your right-wing Griff channel.
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Griff! Baby! This is content. Pure uncut truth.
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Meanwhile, you're all one layoff away from moving back to Ohio
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and crying about how the bodega used to be vibrant before the wrong kind of people showed up.
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Ezra showed up, handshaken with righteous indie rage.
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You're just threatened by alternative masculinities, Davis leaned in, grinning like a shark.
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Alternative masculinity is why you're licking plastic in public, my guy.
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Real talk. That pickle has more spine than you do.
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Security, a tired-looking dude with a man bun, finally asked them both to leave.
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Davis strode out triumphant, already narrating to his GoPro.
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Another victory in the culture war. Hipsters zero, reality one.
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Ezra and Juniper slunk towards the exit, muttering about toxic performativity and late-stage capitalism's emotional labor.
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Ezra still smelled faintly of industrial brine for the rest of the day.
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oh boy so that's uh four minutes in and we've said nothing
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exactly where i'd like to be starving vampires tell me that the music is coming through
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appropriately and it's not drowning out my booming voice
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folks welcome to the live stream we actually do have some content aside from abusing hipsters
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and drinking meat eventually we will be getting some whiskey not bad the starving vampires what
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does not bad me does not bad mean I need to turn up turn it down
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It's not bad, I guess, so, so how does it start with, you know when you've got something
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i was listening to the latest video by think before you sleep
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I got introduced to him by a guy that used to really like my videos.
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And I got introduced to him, I think, around 2022, 2023.
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Now, this was the period where the Manosphere was going from a bunch of independent voices,
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All these different vloggers kind of trying to address the problems of feminism.
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And it was starting to turn into the I Hate Women cult.
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Which, historically, this isn't the first time it's happened.
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The original MGTOW guy, at one point got sick of it, removed all references to MGTOW from his site.
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Because MGTOW was transmogrifying from what he was trying to say, that the system is rigged.
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His point was, the system is rigged, and you have to go your own way.
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Now, if kids are a priority, well, you need a woman for that.
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And you should probably be married to the mother of your children, so that's a risk you gotta take.
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But you gotta own it. You gotta do it your way.
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The system will not protect you. You are not going to start a job, work your way up from the mailroom, and get a gold watch upon retirement.
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The system is quite, quite broken. It's been broken for a long time.
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And I know all of you realize this, but you all know this.
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Because in the foul year of our Lord, 2026, this is not news. This is known, Khaleesi. We all know this. But it was us trailblazers that made it known.
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And when you say the system is broken, you sound a lot like a loser that's whining because
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And so, well, there's a lot of losers that decide to start glomming on to you when it's
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And so when you start pointing out that the game of marriage is rigged,
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20 years back, when, 20 years back, we didn't have the internet like we have it today.
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One of the earliest things that struck me was something Aaron Clary said.
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Or at least there must have been something I could have done.
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And not just your circle of friends, you compare to other guys on the internet.
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And it's like, wait, you dated a crazy bitch?
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Now, in the era of network television, we were assured that women only break up with men.
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They only divorce men because of good reasons.
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And you start seeing all these examples of people being destroyed by divorce.
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And you're like, wait a minute, this is a match that I'm seeing on TV.
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And it can't be just me if I'm seeing perfect strangers.
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and it certainly isn't about not trying it's not about being a loser it's not about like i
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obviously i didn't hate women before my divorce maybe i do now but i didn't before the divorce
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start noticing patterns that the tv's lying to us about
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and i mentioned it hits women just as hard
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Woman got to walk away with fun and prizes.
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Not realizing that she's now a divorced woman with several kids,
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of anybody's relationship or anybody's divorce.
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What I'm trying to say is that demographically,
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they implemented a marriage shredder they shredded a lot of marriages and a
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lot of people made good money shredding marriages the men were the first ones
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to notice because they got cleaned out financially then the women started to
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notice because it really sucks being a divorced mom and I think a lot of those
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marriages were probably salvageable. In the same way, cash for clunkers took a
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lot of cars off the market that were perfectly fine cars. And now the price of
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a used car is the price of a new car from 20 years ago. So a lot of people
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made money shredding marriages. And the early Manosphere, the early MGTOW
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movement. Was people noticing this? It took us a while to figure out exactly what was going on.
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I'm not saying that everything stated 20 years ago was spot on. That's not what I'm saying.
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But overall, the Manosphere, the MRAs, the Mektow people, these were not grifters, these
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were not I hate women groups, these were not, whatever.
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These were people noticing a rigged game and putting together the pieces and trying to
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relearn the wisdom of our ancestors about how men and women ought to relate to one another.
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But starting in the late 2015 to 2020, you know, let me just amend this.
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I don't want to say this is some hard and fast block.
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I've heard of a, there was a men's rights movement back in the 90s, because this has
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been going on for a very long time. But the ubiquity of the internet didn't
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really kick in until about 2010. So I don't think this is the first time this
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has happened. I think there have been previous civilizations. But this is the
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time that we have record of. And so I noticed, I noticed during my time during
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all of this, that around 2015 is when the grift started. The original MGTOWs were
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about the game is rigged. Doesn't matter how well you play, it's a rigged game. You
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need to accept that and you need to go your own way. Don't trust the system, walk
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your own path. That was the original MGTOW. And then at some point it
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transmogrified into, remember, remember to hate women every day. Have you remembered
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to hate women today? Remember to hate women!
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some of which by the way um I'm only seeing two comments somebody toss a
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comment and just make sure it's not locked I'm gonna reload the screen in a
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minute if I don't see you give me some comments guys I'll make sure it's not
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frozen or something they're not ignoring all of y'all there we go there we go
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thank you very much I know it's kind of a last-minute stream so I shouldn't
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expect a huge audience all at first I'd get paranoid about the technology rich
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so good if you have not had proper me geez got yourself some proper me that
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14%. 14%. Respectable. Butterfly glad to have you, babe.
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Yeah, so 2014 was that period where the go your own way started turning into you should
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hate women. Which is not what MGTOW was supposed to be.
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So in 2023, when I got introduced to Think Before You Sleep, there's a link down below to his latest video.
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When I first got introduced to him, I was very, very suspicious.
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His angle, at least his angle back then was very MGTOW.
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You'll see from his latest video, his angle is anti-feminist.
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But he's not. His focus is on self-improvement with the philosophy that if there is universal self-improvement, the rising tide lifts all boats.
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so i really like this guy this guy is absolutely solid if you if you go back into his archives
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like butterfly if you go back into his archives like five years ago you might think he sounds a
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little misogynist but if you listen to the whole video you're like you know what he's got a really
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good point and that woman he was being misogynist she's kind of a bitch
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you can see that he's kind of appealing to that
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first, it hurts the woman second, and it hurts the children third. So there's a
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bunch of people being hurt in this process, but it's staccatic.
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And there were a lot of guys that were never married. There were a lot of...
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It's one thing being a has-been, it's another thing being a never was.
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Jumping on this bandwagon, because they're just spiteful, mutant losers.
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A never was is not the same thing as a has-been.
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Like a has-been, college athlete, top of his fucking game, bad luck, blows out his ankle,
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And by the time his ankle heals, he's too freaking old.
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You know, you can sit around being bitter as a has-been, or you can be a has-been that
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There's nothing innately shameful about being a has-been.
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A never was is the guy that hated jocks back when he was 16,
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and now that he's 36, he's jumping on the bandwagon of hating the whatever aspect of the industry he doesn't like.
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So the original MGTOW, there's a lot of has-been energy.
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A lot of guys that had their marriages blown up.
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But they didn't hate women, and they were doing deeper analysis.
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Rich says, so that's why it stings them when you call them an insult.
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it's really hard for young guys right now okay and and quite frankly any guy in your 20s
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if you're a guy in your 20s even if you aren't aren't a forever alone even if you you aren't a
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wizard. There is that fear that, I've only had sex with three girls, does that mean I'm an incel?
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Okay, you know, I was gonna, oh, Save Your Complex is literally the name of the song that we're
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playing right now. The music by JT, link to his stuff down below. However, he just messaged me
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exactly i'm way too old to understand what the teenagers are up to but it's there's a lot of
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if you're a guy in your 20s who's not working out who doesn't read like if you're just playing
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sitting at home and playing video games all day stop that shit man you need to get a life
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not apologizing for those guys but if you're a guy that has a group of friends that has some
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hobbies that reads books that's pursuing a career that makes money that does stuff
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you might still be having a lot of trouble meeting women
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and shitting on those guys is bullshit so i don't like that term in self for that reason
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there are the losers that have just given up on life
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and it's no wonder that women don't want you
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and yeah when the man's beer thing first started going live it was it was quite easy to attract an
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audience by taking the valid critiques of a corrupt system and turning that into an excuse for
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personal failure. I don't believe in making excuses for personal failure. I
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believe in getting back up, dusting yourself off, and getting back into the
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race again. JT, Butterfly, loves the song. Don't worry folks, I do have whiskey after
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this. Oh goodness. I absolutely love mead though. This is a whiskey barrel aged mead. It is so good.
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Fantastic Bad Bridges. I remember the first time I read about it in a historical fantasy novel about
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Bronze Age Ireland, and, like, what the fuck is fermented honey?
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So, that's a really long intro saying that Think Before You Sleep is a seriously cool guy.
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it. And he fights this culture war while having deep concern for the individual and discussing
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actionable things that individuals can do to improve their life. So hats off to think
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before you sleep. Yeah, don't crawl into a fetal position and suck your thumb for the
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rest of your life. I mean, like, crawl into a little ball, cry for the weekend, you know,
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then dust yourself off and get back into the race again.
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Certain vampire says I cranked my volume up just in time for your glass to get slammed down again.
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That was on purpose! That was on purpose. I have a time-delayed Facebook audio analysis of your home profile, JT.
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so his latest video is oh man he's got some dog whistles in there he's got some
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frickin dog whistles it's about this girl now her basic stance her basic
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political stance. Is she strongly opposed to countries that allow child marriage, but
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she also believes that people should be able to live in whatever country they
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want to. Now, he went in a particular direction with that analysis, which has
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nothing to do what I'm gonna be talking about. Great video, I recommend it. But
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what, what stuck out to me was the Savior Complex. Now this girl in the video, I
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think he briefly touches on this, okay, but it wasn't really the focus of his
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video. This girl, I should say woman, she's probably like 28 or 30, but she acts like a
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little girl, was very bullied as a kid, apparently. Which actually, you know what, let's rewind,
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let's rewind were you actually bullied as a kid or did you just not know how to
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get along with other people because if you don't know how to get along with
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other people if you don't know these shibboleth if you don't know how to say
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hello, how to say goodbye, how not to overstay your welcome, how to dress
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acceptably. If you don't know these things, and I am, this is completely
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autobiographical by the way, if you don't know these things, sometimes yes,
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sometimes you will attract bullies. You're the kid that stands out, and the
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bullies will go after the kid that stands out. But even if there were no
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bullies, people won't really know how to respond to you because you're being
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quirky chungus weirdo. Yeah, or maybe you're the one. Screw you, JT. Black leather jackets are so
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fucking cool. Why can't you fucking wear one without looking like Neo?
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like it could be it's entirely possible that nobody fucking bullied you you were just really
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fucking weird yes literally my demonic familiar said no
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nobody nobody knows what the hell they're doing these days nobody knows the common culture is
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nobody knows like what like I don't know like what to buy somebody for Christmas
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it's we're living in strange times I think there's a lot of people that feel
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like they got bullied when actually they just like there were no rules to the
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game. In fact, when I say a lot of people, I'm not saying like 20%. I'm saying like 60 to 90%
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of people because we don't know what the fucking rules are anymore. Like the old rules might have
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been oppressive, but at least everybody knew what they were. Now we've got no idea what the fuck is
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going on and so everybody feels bullied when nobody was even trying to bully anybody
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it's one of those uh you know like chicken and eggs type type of questions
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there's no rules and there's no adults in charge like we're literally the adults
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to take it. But yes, thank you, Butterfly. Thank you. Let me get back to topic. I am talking
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about narcissists playing the victim game. Although I'm also talking about all of us
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Because I would wager 95 to 99% of us, maybe I'm overestimating, but I will not go below 70.
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When we were 17, 18, 19, when we were first getting out into the world, I think all of
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us were teenage narcissists with big chips on our shoulders, big personas we were trying
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to live up to. Like, we weren't medieval times. You'd be assigned. You'd be the page
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to a knight. You'd be the apprentice to a master. And he wouldn't give a shit about
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your ego, but he'd give a shit about you. Instead, we were thrown into a world of marketing,
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of movies, of hyper-reality, that cared quite a bit about our ego, but didn't give a shit
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about us. I think this is one of the universal, like, narcissism is the
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universal experience of the post-media age. My point in all of this is that
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this this obnoxious little british girl living in japan lecturing japan about how they need to
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accept more muslims while also opposing child marriage in muslim countries and calling anybody
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that that that cosplays as freer in wearing an ice uniform as a nazi racist this obnoxious
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little girl that is the subject of this video
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You heckin' murderino'd that woman, Mr. Ice Agent!
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Rich says, so it's the I'm the only one who matters mindset.
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And I say this as somebody that has very much embraced that mindset in the past.
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Seriously, the number of women I've stayed with, that I should have just been...
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Somebody needs to care about them. They have such a tragic backstory.
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And now that I'm older, now that I'm strong, I'm gonna look out for other
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Anyway, Butterfly, once lit, she once lit a bar cracker in my closet as a kid in high school.
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So I had a magnifying glass as a kid, because I thought I was Sherlock Holmes.
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Like, you know, like, before I played Fallout and decided I was Mr. Fallout and I need lockpicks and, like, every rifle under the planet,
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I was, like, the kid that, like, I read Sherlock, like, I need a fucking magnifying glass.
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God, you know, we don't change. We just get smarter at pretending we're not retarded.
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And it just happened to fit perfectly right into a little ledge where like the window slides in my bedroom
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So I left it there one day. I came home and there's a burn mark on the frickin carpet
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Easily burned the whole fucking house down. Oh
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oh no as a kid you got no idea that houses burned down good what have you seen the the um
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what do they call themselves the tartarian thing the whole town burned down just because a cow
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kicked over a lantern that sounds implausible no it fucking doesn't retard it sounds eminently
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plausible have some respect for the safety officer at work okay the guy's
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not wrong he might be a dick but he's not wrong so you got to be totally off
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topic there butterfly Jesus I can't believe it yeah that's a smart place for
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a magnifying glass right by a southern window the number of times i've electrocuted myself
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the number of times of jesus christ like i work around stuff that's like 80 mpa of pressure on
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the fucking line and somehow i'm the responsible one
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We've been raised by these damn systems that cared a lot about our self-esteem, not about our well-being.
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When you used to be a page or an apprentice, where your boss would seem like a huge dick,
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but he'd train you to become a man or a lady.
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Now it's all about the esteem and nobody knows the rules and that inevitably
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leads to feeling like you're getting picked on. Now I watched a really good
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video. Oh goodness, there's this girl literature analysis who is cute as fuck
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and probably married. I can't remember her name right now. I'll share one of
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her videos on Twitter. She did an analysis of Holden Caulfield that I found quite
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compelling because, much to my chagrin, I've been compared to that annoying
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character more than once. I mean, just because I say everybody's a phony and he
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said everybody's a phony oh god I found I find Holden Caulfield so annoying
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because he hits very close to home for me and so this this lady did a video
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depending Holden Caulfield catcher in the rye pointing out that yes the
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culture is all phony. It is all fake. It's just performative. In Ken Wilbur terms, this was the
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first... What Holden Caulfield was criticizing was stage five in Ken Wilbur's spiral dynamics.
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That's above stage four, which is the rules. Stage five is the achievement. Stage six starts asking,
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who the fuck are we trying to impress with all of this achievement?
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We're all achieving so much, but we're all miserable.
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is that Holden sees all these kids just plunging into the future
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that it's like it's nothing but grinding for McMansions
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and it's like, what the fuck is any of this?
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And so Holden's got this big savior complex throughout the book.
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and yet at one point here's here's the funniest part of the book to me
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for some goddamn reason holden decides to hire a call girl and then instead of having sex with
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a prostitute he bitches to her about his problems in life at which point the pimp shows up and beats
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and she asked me to stop talking because I'm
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i have been that guy way too many times a month fuck i hate holden caulfield because he's too
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close to home but he's got this damn savior complex he's trying to save it he's the catcher
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in the rise saving the kids before they fall over the cliff
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Holden points out valid problems, but he keeps trying to save everybody, and that's a fucking problem.
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And the guy's doing stuff, too. He's not just working, he's doing stuff.
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He's moving around, he's talking to people, doing websites, he's got stuff going on.
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He's a very cool guy. I like this guy quite a bit and I don't want to be too specific
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the sake of privacy, for the sake of his ego, for basic decency, but I want to...
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This little girl, this little 28 year old woman that Think Before You Sleep is talking about
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in that video down below. She was an awkward youth. She had friendships with people that
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were very, very negative to her. But she's also vicious because rather than working on
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any of that, rather than on becoming a more likable person, a person that's easier to
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get along with. She decided she was going to turn herself into the paladin of the oppressed.
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Holden Caulfield, the catcher in the rye, she's going to say,
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all those poor Muslims that just want to move to Japan.
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she's an extreme case okay somebody that did no work on themselves they didn't figure out well
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why don't people want to hang out with me is it because i keep making art noises in public and
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jokes on you i'm only pretending to be retarded that didn't do any of the goddamn work just
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decided to make herself into an avatar of the oppressed. Whom she also hates
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because she's opposed to child marriage in Muslim countries. Like, it's retarded.
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It's an extreme case of the retardation. Very easy to see the contradictions. And
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she's trying to save the Muslims because nobody saved her.
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Holden Caulfield is trying to save other kids, because quite frankly nobody ever really looked
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out for Holden Caulfield, did they? As I recall, correct me if I'm wrong, Butterfly,
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the book catcher in the rye starts off with holden getting kicked out of a like a prestigious
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private high school sort of a thing because he hasn't been doing his homework
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he's you know this is actually one of the interesting things they never really tell you
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and telling them that he got kicked out of school,
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But rather than phone his parents, rather than go to his priest, he's got nobody to go to.
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This may be the defense of the character, that he literally has nobody to go to.
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He's got no priest, he's got no coach, he's got no mentor, he's got no parents.
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Like, there's, he does have parents, but, yeah, his parents are pricks! Exactly.
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There is nobody in loco parentis. When I was talking about being a page to a knight,
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or being an apprentice to a master, loco parentis.
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and you know guys I'll tell you that I have I've never really had a mentor now
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I'm getting older. I've actually found a couple of part-time Gen X mentors.
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That's why I don't want to say that I've, you know, I don't want to be
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unappreciative. There's a... back when I was a callow young man of 17 years in
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Hamilton renting my own place I've been kicked out I there's an old man that I
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met many times on the bus that he gave me my first phone and he always called
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me the dashing swordsman because I'm because I studied the blade I pray for
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Now he goes on a stupid adventure where he pisses a lot of people off and kind of acts
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like a dickhead while dreaming about catching the children in the rye, saving the other
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kids. This is not the way, my people. This is not the way. That is the savior complex,
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and it's an understandable savior complex, but it is not the way. When we look at all
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these people on the left. Screaming about open borders, getting themselves shot. I
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mean, how do you think ICE is doing? I think it's pretty good. Be careful, the ICE
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has been murdered this year. All these people throwing themselves into bullets
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to protect child rapists? Far out man, that's pretty far out. Or maybe it's not
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that far out, maybe it's kind of close to home.
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See, I mentioned, I had this co-worker who, this guy's been through the shit in life.
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This guy, first of all, he really had his shit together, he was making money, extremely
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physically fit. On top of his finances. And he's been through some real bad shit.
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Seat says if you like Catcher in the Rye, then you are a scum.
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I think if you felt vindicated by Catcher in the Rye,
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But if you felt frustrated, if you felt upset,
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Because you like Colden Caulfield, and you hate Colden Caulfield at the same time.
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Good lord, I totally spent most of my 20s calling everybody a phony.
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I'm very suspicious that the education system pushed it on us.
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But, hey, maybe sometimes the education system is good.
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Yeah, I've reached the point in my life where I don't need to say something is good or evil.
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Butterfly says it just goes on and on about how shitty things are, and they are actually
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shitty, and Holden is part of the shittiness himself as well, the book is somewhat self
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aware of that, I don't know, maybe I need to reread it, I feel like I should be reading
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something something by Ursula Le Guin I don't fucking know but maybe I should
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reread it it's an interesting book it's a book that can be taken a lot of
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different ways so you got to give it that but I was telling you about this
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this co-worker this friend friend I'd like to think I like this guy quite a bit
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He's been through the shit he's seen he has seen the horror within his own soul
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Anybody can see the horror in other people's soul that's like that's fucking easy
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This guy seen it in himself and he's fought against it and he's won seven out of ten of those battles
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But here's the part where I'm going to be critical, and I'm worried he might hear this.
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The other 85% is, man, you could just buy the homeless dude heroin.
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You know, we're gonna play this one out, Butterfly. I know you like this track. We're gonna go back to Savior Complex, the previous track.
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This friend, he's doing good shit. He's doing interesting shit.
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The savior complex, the trying to save others because nobody was there to save you, that's
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what the entire political left is doing right now.
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And that's the point I wanted to make about all of this, that the sheer psychopathy of
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the political left, the incredible destruction to our nations, to our marriages, to our industry,
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to our culture, to cinematography, the way they destroyed Star Wars, for fuck's sake,
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is literally quite literally and directly because of the savior complex
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we are back to the previous track what is this track anyway let me hear it
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oh that's way more light-hearted than I thought it would be but it fits I've had
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a fast cadence this three so what is the alternative to the savior complex I think
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adequately defined the savior combo we all we all we're on the same page i don't know what i'm
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talking about because this is something i'm only recently recovering from oh wait wait wait speaking
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of saving us uh jt is gonna save us from having to listen to the same track this uh so let's
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we're gonna pop this one on. This is Velvet Subwoofer by Later Than Eight, which is the
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official name of JT's experimental work. JT, toss a link into the comments for the people.
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You're kidding me. You like space ball. Man, we got very different senses. I just, yeah, I don't think Mel Brooks is funny.
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I'm sorry. He takes something sacred and he adds a diarrhea joke.
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Like, I'm not hating on you for thinking it's funny.
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There's parts of Robin Hood men in tights that were pretty funny.
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But there's, like, I just, Mel Brooks is too rude for me, man.
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The other half is very, very prim and proper Scottish Viking nobility.
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You know, I can read through anonymous conservatives.
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site, his news rollup, that's, yeah, that's not a bad idea, actually, that's something,
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that's interesting, might be of some worth, anyway, yeah, not a fan of Mel Brooks, I've
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tried, not a fan of him, not judging you if you are, I, like, dude, I like independence
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day, okay? I think it's a great movie. It's stupid, it's all fucked, but I really like it.
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All right, so what the fuck are we supposed to do
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if the savior complex makes the world worse.
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How the fuck are we supposed to save the world
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if saving the world makes the world worse?
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this is something I put a lot I I feel very strong I've always had a very
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strong sense of moral duty which it's so if you are serious about the question
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of moral duty. You know, it's easy. It's easy to pick up, to put on the outfit of moral
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code and go be a paladin for that moral code. That's very, very simple. Look at Islam. Islam
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And then you tell them never to think about anything.
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they look at holden caulfield who like in the story
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he kind of makes a mess of everything like everything he touches
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that he just disrupts their business model.
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It's not like they designed the pimp and prostitute industry.
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Travis Pickle, Holden Caulfield, six of one, half a dozen of the other.
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Taxi Driver happens in a more mature context than Catcher in the Rye.
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York City. Child prostitution, pornography, cinema, you name it. And like Holden, the
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protagonist of Taxi Driver, he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. He's trying to be a good guy.
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but why is he trying to be a good guy why is he he goes at the end of the movie he goes and he
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shoots up this den of iniquity to save a 16 year old prostitute
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who's probably going to be a prostitute again in about six months
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He doesn't really embody a moral difference in reality itself.
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And the same thing goes for Catcher in the Rye.
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Except Taxi Driver, he winds up a hero, if you believe the script.
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Catcher in the Rye, he winds up in a mental asylum.
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Think about that leftist girl that we started this whole thing with.
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Trying to advocate for more diversity in Japan.
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So what ought we to do if we cannot be the savior?
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Oh shit, I'm sorry for ruining it. I had a butterfly didn't ruin anything
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It's still, like, books like that, it's not about the ending.
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Okay, I promise I won't ruin anything else about it.
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This is why I like Fight Club so much, particularly the movie.
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It was never about destroying the credit card companies.
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Holy shit, I wish I could find a woman to watch that movie with.
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Almost thought I did, but it turns out she was crazier than Marla.
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Now, being the savior is not how we transmogrify reality.
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The way we transmogrify reality is a hell of a lot harder than being a savior.
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I'm going to read you something I wrote on Substack earlier today.
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So, I'm still working this out. I'm still figuring it out. I don't have it nailed down yet, but, well.
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My current approach is self-initiation into the mystery religion of the Aquarian Age, which is the Leonine Path.
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At best, you'll be shunted off to have mystical visions in some monastery and be kept far away from the levers of power.
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At best, you'll gain power, but only after being embedded with some sort of Epstein child sacrifice at the archdiocese of the three Masonic temples.
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all the secrets have been revealed however in many cases they are driving the youth insane
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getting bathed in the mithraean blood before they've even come to the age of reason
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seeing behind the veil at what actually motivates the meat machine seeing the other sex as they
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truly are, can be soul-shattering for the young mind.
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But for those with grit and temerity, who do the work and walk the vieille sepens, initiation
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into a distributed mystery school becomes possible.
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Through fifth-generational warfare, a distributed army of Jedi Masters, without hierarchy,
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each with the confidence of the lion, and utter contempt the system, while remaining completely invisible to it.
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Maybe I do have some sort of monkey on my back.
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Maybe Travis Bickle. Maybe there's just some of us
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Born with this monkey on our back. We can't stop
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And so we put up magnifying glasses in our window and almost set the house on fire
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Maybe there's a deeper metaphor to life right there, my brothers and sisters. There very well might be.
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what i'm approaching right now i don't have the words to like properly or i can't prove it
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scientifically that's what drives me nuts about this like i'm so utterly certain of this
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what sort of life ought Holden Caulfield to live?
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Because clearly nobody wants him to be the catcher in the rye.
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And this is the point where I don't have strategy anymore.
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if you actually pay attention to what Christ was up to,
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Kick the dust from your sandals, tell them to fuck off
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That is the crazy thing, is that those that try and follow the savior complex, they usually
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think of Christ, but they act nothing like him.
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Christ was more than willing to drop the dead weight.
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Christ was more than willing to curse people.
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You curse a damn big tree for crying out loud.
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Those of the savior complex are trying to save everybody.
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This is part of the reason leftism is so toxic.
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Butterfly points out they chose to reject Jesus. Jesus said, okay.
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I am a bit of an argumentative person, you may have noticed.
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And one of the things I've really adopted in my dotage is that if somebody's not interested
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in the things I am arguing about, I say, okay, increasingly I've got so little interest
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in trying to explain to people, not explain, justify, I've got zero interest in justifying
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No, like people got the right to go to hell, man.
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You're not being a bodhisattva trying to save everybody.
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You're being egotistical when you try and save everybody.
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in Empire Strikes Back. He put everything at risk.
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believes they're trying to save everyone at this point.
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And so they get increasingly manic, trying to do something about the world, when actually the pain is inside of themselves.
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The place where they need to do work is inside, not outside.
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And so they continue committing actions outside,
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You just help me figure out at least like 13% of it.
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The whole point of the Star Wars saga is that the greatest victory of the Jedi Knights
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The great victory of Luke Skywalker was forgiving his father.
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It needs integrated people living their own lives.
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depth upon this radical trauma oh goodness I gotta tilt it in the wind I gotta google it
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but he encounters nothing but people that are irritated with him
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And, you know, like, he's probably right that they're all phonies.
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But he's not exactly helping anything by interrupting them.
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He's just kind of pissing them off, and they're just, you know,
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if there is one piece of advice i could give to young people
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it's that if you show up to work 15 minutes early consistently every day no except if you show up
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early to work you can get away with being super mediocre at the job
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All spiritual wisdom is based upon foundational principles.
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Our problem is that people abandon the foundational principles of reality.
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The foundational principles are that you must work to eat.
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it must be at least 51% positive for people to want to hang out with you.
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Make sure the bills are paid, do the basics, stop saving people, have your shit together.
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So, yeah, I've, um, for the past week, I haven't recorded any videos, but I've written 5,300
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words in the, uh, grimoire, all in the Tree of Life.
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I hope to have that chapter done before I have to go back to work and I'm
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in the culvert, smash my finger between a couple of rocks. The the damn check valve
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didn't work as it was supposed to. Such is life.
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Multimating between building cattle waterer, which is based upon
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there's the electric pump if this damn thing doesn't work
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I swear to my cowboy duster the whole time
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If you want to be an alchemist, go study chemistry, go study force, go study pressure variance,
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Colman Caulfield's problem is that he tried to do it alone.
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My stepfather and I, we've had words a few times.
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and talking about how we get the work done and doing the fucking work and making the cattle waterer work
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and abusing the laws of physics like we're literally we're using a ram pump if you don't
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know what a ram pump is we are tricking the laws of gravity to push water uphill it's it's downright
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prefer arguing with him over that than talking about fucking Israel. That's the work man is
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meant to do. And that was righteous today. That's why I wanted to do a stream about the unrighteousness
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of the savior complex that is not what any of us are called to do you are called to live your life
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gloriously and venturously but not to save others
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I'm still very curious what you do for a living butterfly.
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Do the challenge of characters like Holden Caulfield do?
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The challenge is actually the Path of Mercy. The Path of Mercy has a curlicue. It's got a cowlick.
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It makes it naturally easy to be a charming bastard that achieves success without ever earning it.
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That's the foundational difference between the city mouse and the country mouse. Country mouse has to earn it.
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But then you get the problem that Jubar Tactus looks down upon Jubar Carmen for just easing their way.
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I was a bright student, and I went to university, and then I got promoted to manager.
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Jubar Tactus looks down upon that. That's just the natural pathway of Jubar Carmen.
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It is possible to walk only one path, the path of mercy, the path of severity, and achieve
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If you walk the path of mercy, the road to balance is humility and the hermit.
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Holy Caulfield, he is down, he is down in Victoria.
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a lawyer, a doctor, a respect member of the community with your great smarts.
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Alternatively, Victoria can walk the path of death.
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Not a story close work that close that makes the cove it
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Now, I'm tailing Gen X, and I, to my own chagrin, I identify way too much with Holden Caulfield.
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I walked the path of the devil when I signed up for my car loan the devil is
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a known evil it's known enslavement it's putting a chain around your neck that
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you could take off at any time like I could cancel my car loan and get they
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could take the car back now the devil is a the devil is a mature card it's in the
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the third Septuagint might not be using the right word it's in the third you got
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three... hep... what is the word for this? You got three sets of seven cards.
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Hepkarde? I'm gonna go with Hepkarde. You got three Hepkarde in the...
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The first Hepkarnate is the basic forces of reality.
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You've got the magician, which is the primordial ability of masculinity to alter reality.
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reality science technique charisma like all those basic masculine forms
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second you've got the uh the high priestess you've got the feminine intuition the insight
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the lovers, you've got falling in love, and then you got the chariot. The chariot is when
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you harness all of these things, these previous six things, you change into destiny. That's the
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first seven cards buy you a new car I mean like I don't know if you married me
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maybe I mean like I could that's not outside the realm of possibility they
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got a second line second line I'm gonna try to remember these the first one is
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strength strength is an interesting card it's a woman holding a lion's mouth
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closed it is grace and power combined gratia and robert the path between them
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is strength because strength knows when to hold the lion's mouth shut it is when
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Jordan Peterson talks about keeping your sword sheathed. True strength is not
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needing to use your strength. Next you have the Hermit. The Hermit who has a
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lantern of light and insight but doesn't share it until they're ready next the
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wheel of fortune that the ongoing wheel of time that sometimes you're up
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sometimes you're down. Next is death. Am I right about that? I'm guessing. Death, then,
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Wait, wait, no. Death is 13. We have 7, 8, 9, 10. No, 11 is justice. Principle of justice.
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It's, what is it, it's star, moon, sun, the trumpet, the return to life, and then the
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world. The world's the final one. There you go.
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What does all that mean? It means that we live in a reality. We live in a reality
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with a palette there there was a palette a painter's palette used to describe
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this reality and when you're young you call some of the colors evil you call
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some of the colors good but they're just colors and our goal if you're serious
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about the moral goal in life is to start contributing to the painting and you
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still have to use the same colors as everybody else. But maybe we can use
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So the purpose of the magus, the purpose of the saint, is to start coloring reality in
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a better way than it has been colored up to this point.
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using the same colors we're not overthrowing evil there's there's always going to be evil
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maybe we can put evil into a better context than it used to be maybe it doesn't need to be
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maybe we can create something a little bit better than that, like we're not getting rid
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create a new reality or create the next chapter of reality
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maybe we could do something good does that answer the question butterfly
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As I think I said earlier, I'm 5300 words into the first chapter.
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of the grimoire yeah yeah okay butterfly get it butterfly says yes like for me
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The problem with leftism is it's an easy solution because
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is, oh, anybody can live in any country, yeah, you know.
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The culture war is obvious, like, that's another distraction.
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i'm not saying i am i completely agree with everything happening happening in ireland that's
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righteous i am good lord i would love to do some irish stuff right now that would be so much fun
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and especially you young men you young men should be super excited about this
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Don't be stupid about it, but be excited about it.
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Part of reality is competition between the species.
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nobody here is telling you to be a pacifist there is no spiritual righteousness in being a pacifist
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glory glory glory to you god let us spill blood in your name
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cares about you and wants to watch the path and wants to do I think it's a good
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place to end things your purpose in life is not to save other people your
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purpose in life is not to save yourself either. Christ saves. He does not need
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Your purpose in life is to individuate, is to be the best version of yourself, is to
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bring into reality that thing that could not be brought into it without
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yourself. Now we know that's a super tall order. It's easy to say, it's very hard to
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do. So my advice, go out there, do the basics. Wax on, wax off. Do that which you know how
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How to do. Go be the best version of your young, juvenile self that you can be.
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you might be doing a simple job but you are vital my brother keep doing it do the
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work, it will pay off. Carpe Futurum. This is Irini, out.