00:01:20.160She claims she's Aaron Russo's cousin and that I am a Nazi grandson of Ted Turner.
00:01:27.100And that's why I, because I made fun of her one time on a podcast or some shit.
00:01:33.060So anyway, she flipped out and there's a video that she made on YouTube trying to show that I'm your grandson of Ted Turner.
00:01:41.220And she is a skanky white rapper chick.
00:01:46.540Yeah, sometimes on the one hand, I can understand why the elites hate us so much and want our extinction when this is the sort of garbage we get up to.
00:01:56.160i was gonna say yeah and at the same time the sort of garbage that idiots get up to
00:02:02.660you know the sort of like yeah you do some of the conspiracy stuff and there's a that's the thing
00:02:08.380there there's the good stuff that you do and then there's the conspiratards the reason they get up
00:02:14.380there's a lot of tards and this this chick is one of them she she does videos about fema camps and
00:02:20.180that kind of shit that's the thing it's part of the reason people are getting up to all this
00:02:25.540nonsense is because there is no actual leadership from the elites no aristocracy and that's kind of
00:02:31.640the topic of this live stream how uh how liberalism is the default assumption that we were all it's
00:02:40.500it's like the mother's milk we all start with some form of liberalism whether it's classical
00:02:45.400liberalism whether it's modern conservatism it all goes back to the french revolution all goes
00:02:51.280back to the philosophy of man you know starting back enlightenment and post-enlightenment
00:02:56.400now in my case i can tell you that for a long time i was a libertarian conservative but i was
00:03:03.180always looking for that black box at the core of everything like if you take the whole the rights
00:03:09.360of man free speech oh that you take that whole package it seems really nice but at the end of
00:03:15.880the day, how do you compel this behavior? Either there's a magic black box that runs the whole
00:03:24.420thing, that justifies it. It justifies forcing people to follow the system. Or there is no black
00:03:35.660box. And it's just like your opinion, man. And so at this point, you have to admit that your
00:03:42.600perfect system where everything's beautiful is foundationally no different from communism is no
00:03:47.400different from anarcho-capitalism and what you need to do to maintain any system like this
00:03:53.420is force and indoctrinate everybody in the society you must believe in classical liberalism
00:04:00.700or you're an un-person you know we we've seen this coming from the classical liberals well
00:04:06.940you're a Nazi. The right is exactly the same as the left. Horseshoe theory. Yeah, you have to 100%
00:04:15.240buy into their scheme, whether it's classical liberalism, communism, whatever it might be,
00:04:19.740because it needs a magic black box. And that's been a focus of your work, with your philosophy
00:04:28.520work. Yes. For many years, we've been critiquing me, myself, my friends, my circles. We've been
00:04:36.500critiquing classical liberalism and I can speak from experience because as I said before we started
00:04:42.740I was probably a classical liberal when I was 18 19 20 at that time I still really believe that
00:04:49.980America kind of had a Christian heritage and that that could be preserved and if we could just get
00:04:54.560the right you know libertarian constitution party candidates and I think we even we even
00:05:00.680canvassed at one point when I was 21 or two for constitution party candidates. So, uh, I was in a
00:05:08.320way I was red pilled back then, but I was still very naive, very stupid. Um, and the internet
00:05:13.020wasn't popular like it, like it is now. So it was a different situation back then. And, um,
00:05:20.700you know, you, you don't really think or know to question things like classical liberalism
00:05:26.620because it's just kind of the ether in which we all live and swim and breathe and move and have
00:05:33.260our being. So for me, it was a little bit different because I went to school to study
00:05:37.580philosophy and that kind of prompted me to ask those kinds of questions, which like you guys
00:05:44.740were talking about last night, the normie kind of approach to the world, you're not even really
00:05:49.500asking those kinds of questions. So in one way, the internet is good because it will allow people
00:05:55.020to be presented with information to question their presuppositions and that's why i do like
00:06:00.200that there's there's a lot of debate discussion going on that is sometimes a shit show but
00:06:06.620sometimes it's also fruitful i mean i've learned a lot from different debates that people have had
00:06:10.300online but anyway um yeah the the the the idea just simply stated is that everything is inverted
00:06:19.500so what we would consider natural is in any sphere or aspect of life it gets inverted so
00:06:28.300it's not just a question of government but yes in government you don't have the idea of of
00:06:33.140hierarchy or vested authority or aristocracy natural aristocracy or i'm not talking about
00:06:38.260like a petty bourgeoisie aristocracy all that stuff is tossed out out the the window for
00:06:43.740all the false presuppositions of egalitarian thought. And I know this audience is very
00:06:49.480educated. You guys all know that. So I'm not going to rehearse a bunch of basic bitch critiques
00:06:54.620of classical liberalism, but it does spill over into a lot of areas that we don't really think
00:07:00.160about. I mean, you know, when I, when I made that video, for example, critiquing Jordan Peterson,
00:07:05.400it's not that he doesn't have a good effect in certain ways, but what happens in my view,
00:07:10.600Let's take the American experience, the American Constitution as a perfect example.
00:07:15.880Many of the founding fathers, I would say, were sincere.
00:07:19.440They really did believe that maybe you could erect a purely rational, purely propositional republic or something like this.
00:07:27.420But the problem is that the document itself, the founding documents, the founding ideology has a an inconsistency in it, which on the one hand is the idea that that you can have a kind of universalized notion of what rights are, of what freedom is.
00:07:45.600And you can have a generic idea of God.
00:07:48.180Half the founding fathers will be Freemasons.
00:10:24.480But there were plenty of proled revolutions during, for example, the Middle Ages.
00:10:29.240And the reason we don't hear about them is because they all failed.
00:10:31.640You get a bunch of rattled together with their pitchforks.
00:10:34.520Not too hard for the people who own the weapons to put it down.
00:10:38.420Now, the successful revolutions are always hatched. You obviously need the foot soldiers to ultimately carry it through to completion. But the ideas of successful revolutions are hatched by the bourgeoisie and these organizations that get the ideas out there and start the planning, the smart people, as it were.
00:10:59.140the way spengler puts it is brilliant he says there's never been a socialist revolution that
00:11:06.760was not backed by monopoly capitalists it's something to that effect it's a famous spengler
00:11:11.520quote but that's essentially what it is and you know i did a lot of lectures on last year on carol
00:11:16.420quigley's tragedy and hope and i'm not going to rehearse all that but there's a great chapter on
00:11:20.220the french revolution where quigley talks about jewish banking and protestant banking interests
00:11:26.540that were behind the French Revolution so you had a combination of people in Britain
00:11:32.880the Masonic lodges in Britain together with Swiss bankers who were Protestants and Jewish interests
00:11:39.560all colluded to change the social makeup of France and so who did they use all these idiot
00:11:48.700revolutionary Masonic groups and so that's really what what is another fascinating insight that even
00:11:55.480plato who is ironically the father of communism even plato recognized that democracy has always
00:12:03.120been a tool of moneyed oligarchy so and plato noticed as well in the republic that the the
00:12:11.740democrat the oligarch money democrat he's not really a democrat but he he controls the democracy
00:12:20.240the the demos the the the the mob as you said uh by their base passions and so that's why
00:12:30.020culture constantly degrades is because the money power likes and needs it to degrade for better
00:12:38.200and a better concentration of power wealth and control the more you can degrade the more you have
00:12:44.140a completely docile populace and that by the way to go to what davis was saying that's why
00:12:50.460relativism as a concept is so useful uh once the people do not believe there's such a thing as
00:12:57.260objective truth then all they care about is their own personal subjective egoistic truth so they
00:13:03.980just become basically hedonistic slaves to to their desires and it's very easy to control them
00:13:49.760There's one I forget the name of in particular who financed the communists in large part because the Russian Empire was anti-Semitic and all that.
00:14:01.860Warburg, I've read Warburg's letters where he writes about how happy he was that the money that he sent was successful.
00:14:10.160Yes, but going back to how democracy works and how it gets subverted, the most powerful position in a democracy, in a system of government where the people supposedly rule, is whoever controls the people's opinions.
00:14:26.400Whoever gives them what they – like where do the people get their beliefs?
00:14:31.540Where do they get their desires, their wants, their needs?
00:14:37.040Whoever shapes that, they're the ones who control.
00:14:39.660That's why you see all these subversive elements.
00:14:42.740They move quickly to take control and establish such things as Hollywood, the movie industry, and also journalism.
00:14:48.640Whoever controls the information flow and can shape people's wants, they control everything.
00:14:54.560Okay, I found the quote I was looking for. This directly relates to how the conception of American liberty, which began with the founding of the republic, ultimately collapses in on itself.
00:15:08.120This is from Planned Parenthood versus Casey. Now, a lot of people think that Roe v. Wade is the abortion legislation. And it's not really. If you read Roe v. Wade, it boils down to, we don't want to have an opinion on this right now, so we're just going to ignore it.
00:15:26.820It was in, I believe, 1991 that Planned Parenthood versus Casey came along.
00:15:32.660And there is one crucial bit in the justification for the decision that this perfectly illustrates what we're all talking about.
00:15:41.900Quote, at the heart of liberty is the right to define one's own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe and of the mystery of human life.
00:15:51.500beliefs about these matters could not define the attributes of personhood were they formed under
00:15:56.740compulsion by the state in other words we can all be our own popes now and you can believe whatever
00:16:04.860damn fool thing you want to believe and the government can't compel you to believe anything
00:16:09.120else and so we eventually go from that to winding up with people demanding that you respect their
00:16:16.260pronouns because they're transgendered other kin this this is a direct devolution when you say that
00:16:23.160we just believe that god gave us these rights but you can believe whatever god and believe in
00:16:28.200whatever god you want to believe in all of a sudden document means nothing yeah that's why
00:16:34.700i don't understand let's say if you're an alt-right uh uh proponent of race theory and all this kind
00:16:41.440of stuff, but you also believe in natural rights, and you're an atheist. This is a very popular
00:16:48.300position in the YouTube sphere, but it makes absolutely no sense. On what basis do you have
00:16:53.580rights if you are an atheist? They're completely arbitrary, they're ad hoc, they're subjective,
00:16:59.060and this is a point I've been making for a long time, that one of the problems with classical
00:17:03.800liberalism, you just hinted at at Davis right there, is personhood. So when this comes up in
00:17:09.840the debates about pro-choice and pro-life and whatnot. Let's say you're a libertarian or a
00:17:15.560classical liberal of some sort, and you believe in liberty, you believe in personhood, you believe
00:17:22.740persons have rights. If you don't have a worldview that gives a context for how there's such a thing
00:17:31.340as personhood, and I would say that it really only makes sense if you're made in the image of God.
00:17:36.180If you're not made in the image of God, then you're just kind of an evolutionary bubbling forth with no meaning at all.
00:17:52.240There's no place in this for rights outside of just will to power.
00:17:57.880And all of these positions that remove the transcendent, and that's what you get in classical liberalism because it starts with the individual.
00:18:05.480that's its autonomous self-evident maxim is the individual that's where it starts it doesn't start
00:18:11.240with anything to do with the transcendent once you do that you have no basis for any objective
00:18:17.360immaterial moral standards or even other things like law mathematics all these things that are
00:18:23.620immaterial you've already negated the possibility of that because you start with a purely material
00:18:29.820sphere see the classical liberals what they do is they replace theology and philosophy they
00:18:37.000replace it with legalism see if you yes if you take monarchy and you ask the king to have an
00:18:44.500opinion on whether or not the morning after pill the king is probably going to say you know what
00:18:49.640uh i don't want to touch that kettle of fish you know what and it doesn't affect me you know i'm
00:18:55.360still getting my taxes. We've defended the border. I'm more concerned about standardizing
00:19:00.760the system of measurements used in grain shipments than something like abortion. I don't care about
00:19:06.620anything until it starts affecting society. There is no need for the king to have an opinion
00:19:15.300on something like that. But with classical liberalism, with modern republicanism,
00:19:22.440there is this demand this totalitarian demand that it have an opinion on everything instead of
00:19:30.200god being the final arbiter it winds up being the supreme court and so in this case the supreme
00:19:36.700court has said we don't want to have an opinion on that they they recognize that having an opinion
00:19:42.140on this would be totalitarianism but instead of instead of enacting an attempt at just
00:19:49.140totalitarianism, which probably would have turned out terribly anyway. They said, anybody can
00:19:53.540believe whatever the hell they want. So now we're each our own little king. And so, and this is
00:19:59.980exactly it. It becomes the will to power. Your ability to manipulate the system. I was saying
00:20:07.200this last night, that you get the, on the one hand, you have the smart, charismatic people
00:20:11.840that manipulate their way into golden parachutes. And then you have the big mass of people that are
00:20:16.960dumb and ugly, so all they can do is vote for socialism. But it's the same, this will to power,
00:20:23.780because there's no overarching authority. There's just what you can get away with in court.
00:20:29.440Yeah, I'm about to do a talk on tonight, actually, or tomorrow on Jorgen Habermas of the Frankfurt
00:20:35.940School fame. He has a book called Theory and Praxis. And the reason I'm doing that book is
00:20:40.540because we talk a lot about Frankfurt School, and this gets bantered about, but not many people
00:20:45.660actually go through the actual books and look at what they say. And what's amazing about Habermas
00:20:50.680is that he's a huge fan of America. He's a huge fan of Americanism, precisely because he correctly
00:20:56.480understands America as having a central position in revolutionary thought and global revolution.
00:21:04.860So he wants to see, he accurately sees that out of classical liberalism, you basically get
00:21:12.480two strands of revolutionary thought. You get the communistic Marxist strand, which would be
00:21:19.160people like Weishaupt. You get Mazzini. You get Antonio Gramsci. You get the Frankfurt School.
00:21:27.320The other side of this dialectic is the capitalists. This is the right-wing Masonic
00:21:33.440lodge of Edmund Burke, and you get the what are called Girondins. This is the founding fathers
00:21:40.980of america right the jeffersons the uh the franklins these are the right-wing revolutionaries
00:21:45.860who want private property and they want their bank accounts they don't want to share their wives
00:21:51.160unless you're ben franklin and you want to fuck old women which is what he was a big fan of but
00:21:58.540so so what i'm saying is that habermas here's this this preeminent uh frankfurt school
00:22:06.960critical theory Marxist, who's a big fan of America because he believes America is
00:22:13.560just another flavor of the revolutionary classical liberal tradition, which whether
00:22:20.180it's global homo-capitalism or global Fabian socialist Marxism, it really doesn't matter
00:22:26.360because it's like H.G. Wells said to his fellow Marxists, he says, you Marxist idiots,
00:22:32.420how else do you think that the utopian global society will come without the engine of globo
00:22:40.080capitalism he says globo capitalism is the engine that will bring our socialist world order because
00:22:46.560it will flatten all the cultures into a monoculture so so the essence of all this is again
00:22:53.100that i i think we have if we really want to object reject modernity i think we have to question
00:22:57.600classical liberalism you know what look at like i've been playing fallout recently which has this
00:23:04.460topic on my mind uh think about mccarthyism on the one hand i think most of us come from a
00:23:10.520conservative background uh we're opposed to the pinkos so and we look at what mccarthy was doing
00:23:15.660yeah there was communist infiltration there was all of this stuff but then look on the other hand
00:23:21.680And you have a bunch of men in black, a bunch of government suits snooping around and prying into your emails. And it's this this dual nature of the whole thing where you can kind of see both sides. And then the funny thing is that when people start getting into conspiracy theories, it's what do you call that device to get randomized numbers where you drop a ball and it either goes left or right when it hits every single pin on the way down?
00:23:47.800It's like some of the people go right and become hardcore capitalists.
00:23:51.420Some of the people with the exact same evidence go hardcore socialist because they're both kind of right about that system.
00:24:01.860Let me ask you a question, and I'm not trying to be a dickhead.
00:24:16.140yeah you can it's i don't think the new york times will let you pull it up anymore but if you
00:24:22.100google it you can find actually the an image like a jpeg of the entire article
00:24:26.680and it's 1973 and what he argues is that that he loves the effectiveness of mal's revolution
00:24:38.960i remember the first time i read that i was kind of i was kind of shocked because like you said yes
00:24:43.680I came from a conservative background.
00:24:46.480My uncle was a big Cold War Air Force guy.
00:24:49.340So I'm certainly not at all interested in Sovietism or communism.
00:24:53.260But I was challenged when I first saw that article because I would have thought, well, if you read David Rockefeller's memoirs, he talks about liking von Mises.
00:25:02.220And he actually wrote a thesis on von Mises's Austrian economics one time.
00:25:07.120And I remember thinking, that's kind of weird.
00:25:09.000I wouldn't think he would prefer that.
00:25:11.060And then you start to realize that at that level, you're dealing with internationalism. And so the internationalism of the capitalists is just as international as the international Marxist.
00:25:24.800So they have a meeting of the minds and there've actually been many conferences and meetings between these two types of groups. I'll give you one example. This was on the CFR's own website for a long time in their archives.
00:25:36.940They had a lengthy essay about the history of the CFR itself and how during the 40s there was a lot of heated debate, particularly during the period that you're talking about into the 50s with McCarthyism, where the CFR was split between do we go with convergence and melding Eastern Marxism with Western capitalism or do we just eradicate Marxism?
00:26:02.740And guess what side of the spectrum the CFR ended up falling down on? Let's merge communism and capitalism, and that's the best means to a world order.
00:26:13.200So my perspective, especially in the clearest, easiest example of one article that you could read is that David Rockefeller essay from a China traveler where he says that for the Chinese people, the international capitalist can be a huge supporter of Mao precisely because what communism does is that it concentrates and transfers wealth very well, very easily.
00:26:39.040and that we could actually enact these same kinds of patterns
00:26:42.880in other countries, you know, if that's what we want to do.
00:26:46.520So he's literally saying all this in that famous editorial.
00:26:49.960And then when I read David Rockefeller's memoirs,
00:26:52.200I was not surprised because I had read that to later see
00:26:56.040that he says that Chase Bank was the first bank in communist China.
00:28:26.600And it is, it is about as meaningful as an internet bum fight. Okay. It is, it's like, no, the communists are doing this. We're going to do that. And so now we, the art world's been completely destroyed. We haven't had good art. We haven't had popular good art in about 50 years.
00:28:46.880yeah i couldn't i was surprised to see this david boaz cato institute article uh a couple weeks ago
00:28:55.040or no actually it's from last year excuse me uh but it got picked up by reason magazine not too
00:28:59.940long ago capitalism not socialism led to international gay rights and actually i was
00:29:05.740tweeting this to stefan and lauren southern today i'm curious who who who do you think
00:29:14.540is promoting international tranny stuff international homo usury gay rights it's the
00:29:21.620fortune 100 and yeah i'm not i'm not saying that there's not a jewish element to that but
00:29:25.680but globo capitalism is the means by which there's international revolution it's not communism
00:29:32.220they may have communist tactics at time but the communist party itself that doesn't even exist
00:29:39.060There's like, that's like 20 nerds at, you know, University of Berkeley or something.
00:29:45.000And I was like, you know, capitalism is the, when it comes to gay rights and stuff like that, I would say capitalism is pushing apart because gays and trannies are the ultimate consumers.
00:29:56.720I know Jack Donovan had a good essay about this some time ago.
00:30:00.420But the thing is, you know, gays and trannies, sodomites, they don't have children.
00:30:05.980You know, their entire lives are all around self-gratification, indulgence.
00:30:14.780They just mindlessly spend on whatever.
00:30:16.940So they're the perfect consumers because, well, you know, consumers is all about getting people to spend money on shit they don't need.
00:30:24.580And trannyism is the ultimate conclusion of classical liberalism, you know, in which you – the ultimate conclusion of a world in which reality is subjective.
00:30:35.980saying that you can even deny your biological sex,
00:34:20.000is if if the engine of capitalism he says which is this powerful force that can mechanize he says
00:34:29.180yes he was in 100 right about that he said that you would see international mechanization
00:34:34.980automation and monoculture would arise from capitalism and he says that will
00:34:42.100put in place the architecture of the utopia that will come after capitalism falls away into
00:34:51.560international Fabian style socialism, then you'd get the utopia. So, and I'm, I think Marx was
00:34:59.080completely 100% funded by bankers and a scam. I'm not all a Marxist, but I'm saying that
00:35:03.660when you read Marx, you can actually see that. Well, the only reason he's right is because this
00:35:08.740as an actual plan it literally is a plan of world revolution of moving people through phases and
00:35:14.340stages of a kind of like a business plan to a final state and capitalism is a part of that
00:35:21.340Marx wasn't anti-capitalist any more than he was anti-feudalist he just thought they were phases
00:35:26.000that led to the next yeah and again it is man defining his own system we are going to build
00:35:33.420are utopia we are going to rewrite the world the way that we want to see it and if you don't want
00:35:39.220to see it in the same way as me well we'll find a way to deal with you we're going to they all
00:35:44.580they all start from the presupposition of materialism and naturalism and no transcendent
00:35:49.420that's their starting point now i'll tell you the interesting thing is that i actually came
00:35:54.360to my faith in god through a very different uh well i'll tell you the route i came through is
00:35:59.920actually through mathematics. And listening to your videos, just it kind of reaffirmed that I'm
00:36:05.580really much more of a math guy than a philosophy guy. And the thing with mathematics, what it boils
00:36:11.860down to is that there's all of these weird little blind spots in math. All these bits,
00:36:19.040where normally, like if you think of a picture, you have the positive space and the negative space
00:36:23.800in the picture. So if you draw a picture of a tree, you know, you have the outline of the tree,
00:36:28.200that's the positive space, and everything that's not the tree is the negative space.
00:36:32.380Typically, we think the positive and the negative are going to be equivalent to one another.
00:36:37.340But what we actually find with mathematics is that when we take the positive and the negative
00:36:42.100spaces within math, there's still something left over. There's an unknowable unknowable.
00:36:48.560There are statements which may or may not be true, but they are unprovable. That foundationally,
00:36:54.520mathematics is not unreliable but there's a on a foundational level it's you need to take it on
00:37:04.260as an article of faith you need to make a leap of faith and just say okay i'm going to believe in
00:37:10.040mathematics because mathematics is never going to prove itself and you know that was uh girdle
00:37:16.760is the one that really worked uh worked out the details of this with set theory although you get
00:37:21.160The same thing with the halting problem.
00:37:23.720And after Gerdel did that, he went on to write an ontological proof of God.
00:37:28.020Because to put it simply, without God, math is just like your opinion, man.
00:37:34.080Like what the postmodernists say, they will straight-faced say, they actually do believe this, that math is just cultural hegemony.
00:37:43.440That when we go down to South America, where they have three numbers, they have one, they have two, and they have many.
00:37:49.140That's the extent of their mathematics.
00:37:51.160And we try and say two plus two equals four, that that's an act of rape and violence.
00:37:56.440And the thing is, from the materialist perspective, or from a strictly logical perspective, it is completely justified for them to say that.
00:38:05.720Because basically, you've got a binary choice.
00:38:08.640You have to make a leap of faith that there is a God or that there isn't.
00:38:17.360yeah back in uh 2013 i wrote an article um that i titled numbers prove god and i don't think i
00:38:26.820mentioned girdell in there but in other articles i did touch on kurt girdell's point about set
00:38:31.180theory and incompleteness but you know this really doesn't have to be a super obscure abstract thing
00:38:36.660either because everybody's familiar with numbers um and a really easy way to show that there are
00:38:45.100abstract, non-material, invariant things, entities, concepts, whatever you want to call them,
00:38:53.900is to point to things like mathematics. They're obviously not social constructs, because if they
00:39:00.260were, then the way that we build a bridge in China would be different than the way that we build
00:39:05.820a bridge in the United States. And it's not, because these are functioning on objective
00:39:10.220principles. Now there might be mysterious aspects as to how exactly numbers interact with the
00:39:16.740physical world. Sure. But regardless, we all kind of intuitively know that yes, the law of
00:39:24.400non-contradiction, the laws of logic, numbers, number theory, mathematics, concepts, these things
00:39:30.920are not matter. They're not material. They're not physical, but in some way they interact with the
00:39:36.340world and they aren't changeable. They aren't in flux. They don't become the opposite of themselves.
00:39:41.500The number seven doesn't become the number 10. It doesn't evolve into something else.
00:39:46.320And this is really the point that kind of Plato made a long time ago and that he did get right.
00:39:51.140I will give Plato props for that. He did get that correct. Not everything Plato said is correct,
00:39:57.180certainly, but, but yes, and this is a great bridge into understanding. Well, you know what,
00:40:01.620If that kind of thing is possible and seems to be true, and most of us all act like it's true, it's pretty common sense, then why is it that difficult to think that there would be a God or that there would be an immaterial, you know, omniscient mind in a way, in an analogy similar to things like invariant, abstract concepts or numbers?
00:40:22.920Now, certainly God is not a number. He's not impersonal, but he's even greater than numbers because he is personal and you can have a relationship with God.
00:40:32.780So, you know, you don't have a relationship with the number seven.
00:40:34.700So even though Pythagoreanism would attach a kind of mystical significance to numbers and would realize this basic point that I'm making about non-material, non-physical properties or entities, even Pythagoras and Plato didn't recognize that the ultimate principle or the metaphysical absolute that we're talking about here, a concrete absolute, is actually God.
00:40:59.800It's actually personal. It's not it's not an impersonal force. But yes, once that can be made clear, the basic bitch Dawkins, atheists, Sam Harris type stuff really doesn't have as much force or as much power because you start to realize that they utilize all these principles and properties that don't make sense on their naturalistic, materialistic worldview.
00:41:24.680to boil it down it's numbers can't prove themselves you know they tried to mathematically
00:41:31.740believe me mathematicians tried to prove that math was real they can't it's literally they
00:41:37.520prove that you can't prove it it's impossible however this is a principle i like to call
00:41:42.260keeping your feet on the ground you know judge the tree by its fruit the thing is that when you
00:41:47.580employ western mathematics you wind up with architecture so yeah we can't prove that math
00:41:54.080is true, but we can observe that using math builds great structures. And this is the thing
00:42:03.320with the modern world. On a certain level, everything that we're trying to talk about
00:42:08.780can be objectively demonstrated. The homosexual lifestyle is a nihilistic and destructive
00:42:16.040lifestyle. It's a lot of fun in your 20s when you're pretty and you don't have any
00:42:21.280drug addictions and etc it is an absolute nightmare in your 40s and pure hell if you actually make it
00:42:29.620to your 50s or 60s okay and that's just an objective observation but we are so good at
00:42:36.680ignoring them and you know i just got to point this out this is funny we actually got a comment
00:42:40.580from um a girl that's just been insulting me the whole time but this perfectly nails what we're
00:42:45.740trying to say she says religious trad cons seem pretty bad at the whole not being a greedy
00:42:51.140callous evil piece of shit thing yes yes this materialist system catches everybody you have
00:42:58.080the you have the rich people or the smart and charismatic people that abuse the system and
00:43:04.300then you have these stupid dumb people that mass together to greedily vote for socialism so it's
00:43:10.240greed on both sides it's this ugly ugly hegelian dialectic which results from the philosophy of man
00:43:16.720that's my point that's our point right here yeah our god is mammon and i remember when i read back
00:43:24.600in my 20s when i was in college i had to read dante i remember dante saying that usury and
00:43:29.600sodomy go together and i was like what i don't how does he i didn't understand how he came to
00:43:34.080that conclusion and then as i got older and i read i read michael hoffman and hoffman's books
00:43:39.640book on usury and a lot of points that he made i thought you know this is actually makes a lot of
00:43:44.460sense that that it's it's it's not it's barrenness it's a kind of non-fruitful sterile parasitical
00:43:54.320relationship that doesn't give birth to actual you know virtue or love or or real exchange it's
00:44:01.420just totally parasitical and the best the most the highest form of that is like you know homosexuality
00:44:08.020or pederasty or something like that that's it's completely parasitical completely rapacious uh and
00:44:14.740and that's why a society that that is heavily focused on usury because what is the user doing
00:44:21.000he doesn't produce anything he just leeches right those societies uh tend to promote
00:44:29.380sterility and sodomy because that's how you have this populace that because if you have kids if
00:44:36.180you have a relationship if you're trying to you know get along with people and do well in the
00:44:41.020world and create things and make things have a farm or whatever you're not going to be you're
00:44:46.860not going to have time for what do they call in the middle ages the um the kingly vice right
00:44:52.400sodomy you know you don't have time you're not going to be laying around
00:44:54.940it's called that it's it's uh the noble vice or whatever i mean you know if you're the peasants
00:45:05.600can't exactly engage in sodomy it's not exactly a uh an activity those who don't have the best
00:45:10.180hygiene can engage in among other things and it's a hobby for people who have time on their hands
00:45:16.600think about remember like braveheart remember how the the you know william wallace is like blown away
00:45:22.980by the the uh the british aristocracy because you know it's like the ones the the son of the
00:45:29.560king longshanks his son and his gay lover remember that part oh yeah and the guy put
00:45:34.600He pushes the one guy out the window because these are very a feat to very,
00:45:38.780you know, they have all their needs met. They're not men. They're not,
00:45:41.740they don't have to deal with, you know, living a rugged lifestyle.
00:45:46.180They're, they're living in a fricking palace with a bunch of pillows everywhere.
00:45:50.960Yeah. And, and, and going back to sort of what your response,
00:45:55.540Davis to that, that, that lady in the chat who is, by the way,
00:45:59.380now threatening to go stick her tongue down, not a woman's throat because.
00:46:02.500Oh, no, no, no, that's going to show me.
00:46:04.900Babe, knock yourself out, you know, just be sure to film it.
00:46:09.280But anyway, we live in a materialist world,
00:46:12.860and we can't imagine any sort of consequences to bad behavior that aren't material.
00:46:19.420Like, say, for example, you get the recent, you know,
00:46:23.520depictions of the slavery era of U.S. history.
00:46:27.240You get stuff like Django Unchained or Twelve Years a Slave
00:46:29.940that cartoonishly exaggerates the amount of violence and pain that black people had to go
00:46:35.760through. This is because, this is in contravention to one of the original arguments for abolition,
00:46:44.500which was abolitionists argued that it was immoral to enslave black people because they
00:46:49.540had souls, because, you know, the souls of black folk. And enslaving someone with a soul was wrong
00:46:55.260because, well, we are all God's children.
00:46:57.900But because we live in a materialist world
00:46:59.800where we deny the existence of the soul
00:50:42.060Yeah, he was a homosexual who was into BDSM.
00:50:44.740So unsurprisingly, he formulated a vision of the world in which everything was about power and control and all about material consequences.
00:50:53.640He also interestingly enough came up with the idea that the left would abandon economic socialism if capitalists could placate them with social leftist gestures, which is exactly what is happening right now.
00:51:10.220The left in the U.S. and in the West has entirely stopped.
00:51:14.960They are the biggest boosters of international capitalism and corporations because those corporations are all about gay rights and trans rights and women's rights and all that.
01:08:29.500I think maybe a lot of the skeptic people are kind of,
01:08:32.900i don't see that lasting very long i'm really hoping this big debate with uh one of the big
01:08:40.360big name youtube skeptics happens um on the warski stream we'll see but
01:08:45.300was that was it you making that point or see i can't remember yeah i think it was him because
01:08:50.240i don't recall making it but yeah skepticism is on its last legs uh i mean the whole atheism
01:08:55.900Internet atheism has been on a downward decline in the recent years.
01:09:02.500I'd say the fishing point was when it's bifurcated into atheism plus because the feminists were not too happy that a movement dedicated primarily to denying the existence of God was not focused on how oppressed women were.
01:09:17.220And now you have – that big debate between Sargon and Richard Spencer, that really broke Sargon mentally.
01:09:26.980I mean I'm no fan of Richard Spencer, but Spencer pretty much – Spencer inflicted narcissistic injury on Sargon.
01:09:34.240And ever since then, Sargon is just trying to prove to the world and to Spencer that he's right and I'm the smart one.
01:09:42.360And I know all about liberty, and you alt-righters are just acting like a bunch of niggers.
01:09:49.060You know, somebody else made this observation.
01:12:57.760I mean, I'm reminded of, like, in 2016 when I think it was Kellogg pulled their advertising from Breitbart.
01:13:06.600So the right announced the boycott of Breitbart.
01:13:09.400And then there was that guy on Twitter who was all like, well, here's how you can really piss off the alt-right by buying Kellogg's eating Pop-Tarts and other Kellogg's products.
01:13:17.820And he posts a picture of himself, and he's this, like, fat ass with his shirt off, and he eats Pop-Tarts.
01:13:23.240And I'm like, you're not hurting us, buddy.
01:24:49.480You know, it's, yeah, I had a business partner that decided that destroying himself to hurt me was more important than us both succeeding.
01:25:03.440And see, this is the nature of the narcissist, of the hellbound soul.
01:25:08.880They are more interested in screaming obscenities than in discoursing or appreciating anything beautiful.
01:25:18.500Yeah, this is part of the reason I'm not a big fan of these Internet bump fights, because I just I don't want that negative energy in my environment.
01:25:26.320You know, I don't like I was on that stream with with Roosh about the trad tots and we had some ladies on there and we didn't argue with them.
01:25:35.040Why would we bring argument into our walled-off garden?
01:25:41.600I'm not saying don't watch the bumfights if you're getting something out of them,
01:25:45.260but I'm looking at that, and that's a little bit too close to hell for the world I want to live in.
01:25:59.620You know, with that, I think we've done a pretty good job with this topic.
01:26:04.720You know, it's kind of, it's a big idea. It's, it's hard to communicate what exactly we're talking about, because we're talking about the ineffable. We're talking about something that you can't really put into words, but like by definition, you can't put it into words. And yet it's absolutely necessary on a, on a mathematical, philosophical.
01:26:23.920Yeah, I was going to say, you can use another math analogy, because we all understand the idea of positive integers. And at the same time, there is, there are negative numbers. We can't exactly explain how this is, or what exactly a negative number is. But in some way, there's some, there's some means by which there's a progression into, to the infinity of non-existence or non-being.
01:26:52.220uh and and there is some analogy there to to hell in some way or to the dark side of the spiritual
01:26:59.680forces or whatever i i think that the uh this is kind of a goofy pop culture analogy but if you
01:27:07.660watched stranger things not the second season where it got all feminist sjw but the first season
01:27:13.300was it was really good and you have the upside down world uh you know this is i remember having
01:27:18.880a bad trip one time and it was like the upside down world i was like this is this has got to be
01:27:23.720what what hell's like it's well i'll tell you it's the demons and souls in hell
01:27:33.900like the god's word the logos is existence itself and hell is the strange place where they
01:27:43.100continue to exist without existence yeah lies need a truth to glom onto to to propagate themselves
01:27:54.040even though they're the opposite of truth and so what you see with these these hellbound souls is
01:27:59.980this desperation to latch on to the good and twist it towards evil even though it's self-defeating
01:28:07.000you're just destroying the good in the process but it's this left of their own devices they have
01:28:12.420absolutely nothing which is why they're constant yeah others have pointed out that a socialist
01:28:18.140socialists can never just leave well enough alone like okay you go have your little socialist
01:28:22.220communist utopia over in california no they ruin it and then they spread everywhere else well this
01:28:27.240is yeah they have it it's it's like leaven like jesus says like it has to it's like it has to
01:28:33.920can grow the corruption has to grow i mean matt you were talking about this with like the grooming