Leo D.M.J. Aurini - The Interface Between Science and Magic

00:00:00.000 the interface between science and magic is the topic for this video I'm going to

00:00:16.020 be discussing how you really can't have one without the other despite the fact

00:00:21.900 that we live in an era where so many people have become convinced that the

00:00:27.120 universe is nothing but billiard balls despite ongoing scientific discoveries contradicting that

00:00:34.200 notion. It's worth understanding how we got to this point and we're just going to use prosaic

00:00:41.740 reasoning for this. We're not going to suspect machination. We're going to leave it at manifest

00:00:48.340 for our present purposes, at least.

00:00:53.140 You see, the human understanding of reality and our place in it

00:00:58.460 and how we interact with it started 2,000 years ago, 3,000 years ago,

00:01:04.960 with mathematical cults.

00:01:08.220 Now, mathematics. Mathematics is interesting

00:01:10.480 because the way that you discover a new mathematical theory

00:01:13.900 is that you ask a question.

00:01:16.340 Are there infinite prime numbers?

00:01:19.780 Can you square the circle?

00:01:22.860 You ask a question, but the only way to properly answer it, it seems, is to do endless counting.

00:01:31.160 And then you sit around and you think about it.

00:01:34.140 You dream.

00:01:35.000 Maybe you do some mushrooms.

00:01:36.760 When suddenly a way of approaching the problem completely sideways occurs to you,

00:01:41.140 and you're able to make a definitive statement on whether this thing is true or false.

00:01:48.000 You start discovering infinite prime numbers.

00:01:51.100 You discover irrational numbers.

00:01:52.460 You find all sorts of crazy stuff.

00:01:54.360 And once you discover a mathematical theory, it's known, it's proven, and it never becomes unproven.

00:02:01.880 people like to look down upon the ancient greek philosophers for sitting around and pondering the

00:02:11.020 lotus instead of doing physical experiments but you have to understand where these guys were

00:02:15.600 coming from in mathematics it is literally studying the lotus how you come up with a new

00:02:20.740 mathematical discovery there is no physical work you can do to achieve these ends and so

00:02:27.460 So, political philosophy, life philosophy, these things were very much based upon the same process.

00:02:34.560 Sitting about, thinking, discussing, and arguing, as opposed to testing.

00:02:40.940 Now, these experiments of the mind eventually led to engineering.

00:02:49.840 And engineering is a little bit closer to what we call science these days.

00:02:53.360 We discover these mathematical properties, these ratios, the angles within a triangle.

00:03:00.060 And we start applying them to building structures, to building bridges, to aqueducts.

00:03:06.740 And so we kind of wound up with a bunch of best practices based upon experimentation, but also developed through mathematics.

00:03:15.080 And only after that, only after we'd really advanced in mathematics,

00:03:21.580 and started doing some amazing feats of engineering.

00:03:26.460 Only then did we start getting the idea of testing everything in the physical world

00:03:32.180 through experiment, hypothesis, validation, cancellation, double-blinding it,

00:03:38.220 seeing what other people saw.

00:03:40.560 It wasn't until we had this groundwork of math and engineering that science came along.

00:03:47.160 You need that before you get to the next thing.

00:03:51.580 however this leaves a massive blind spot in our present approach to reality

00:04:01.080 and that blind spot is who is doing the watching who is doing the scientific experiment we've

00:04:10.100 become so laser focused upon the billiard balls that we forgot about the philosopher

00:04:16.140 examining platonic forms in the clouds.

00:04:22.280 And that right there, the observer,

00:04:25.500 the one observing the experiment,

00:04:28.600 that you, that you that is not your body,

00:04:31.740 that you that is not your emotions,

00:04:34.780 that you that is not your thoughts,

00:04:41.220 there before Moses, there before Adam,

00:04:44.560 there was I.

00:04:46.140 The eternal observer observing the experiments.

00:04:49.960 That is where magic exists.

00:04:53.200 And it has a necessary interface with the science we perform.

00:05:00.560 So in this video, I'm going to be digging in.

00:05:03.600 And I ask you to bear with me.

00:05:05.880 I'm going to be digging in to the observer effect in quantum mechanics.

00:05:08.980 A topic that is grossly misunderstood most of the time.

00:05:13.720 it does sort of point to what i'm saying but it's very much misunderstood which is part of the

00:05:24.440 reason i'm including it in this video not only is it useful for the point i'm making this is going

00:05:28.420 to be my final statement on the observer effects it drives me up the wall of people

00:05:34.040 it's misunderstood in a very understandable way but it's still being misunderstood

00:05:39.260 So this is going to be clarifying what it actually is, while also using it to point out that observer and observed, that ontology and epistemology are two halves of the same coin, and that magic and science are fundamentally interrelated while being complete opposites of one another.

00:06:02.940 the goal is to give you a contextual framework because i'm assuming that like like me you've

00:06:09.740 been born into this materialist billiard ball universe of a culture and so believing in magic

00:06:15.880 is extremely difficult and if you don't believe in it it will never work

00:06:21.300 and so we're about to dive into it but one last thing if you watch this video to the end

00:06:27.980 I promise you that in the days and weeks to come,

00:06:32.140 you are going to notice your own latent psychic ability

00:06:34.760 asserting itself, becoming more effective,

00:06:38.540 and you will see changes in your life.

00:06:42.420 So on to part one, the observer effect,

00:06:46.360 the double-slit experiment, the nature of light itself.

00:06:52.540 Now, the original observer effect,

00:06:54.660 or sorry, the original double-slit

00:06:57.080 experiment. It was an

00:06:59.000 experiment designed to test the question

00:07:01.200 of whether light

00:07:02.600 is a particle or a wave.

00:07:06.200 And it was a fellow by the name

00:07:07.140 of Thomas Young

00:07:08.720 that did the experiment back in

00:07:10.720 1801. And what he

00:07:13.060 did is he took a board

00:07:14.200 and cut two narrow

00:07:17.080 slits through it.

00:07:19.680 Now, if light

00:07:20.760 or a particle

00:07:21.620 like a bullet for example what you would expect to see is two bands on either side

00:07:29.720 right if you were firing bullets at a wall that had two holes in it if you were firing a machine

00:07:34.700 gun at it you'd expect most of the bullets are going to hit the first wall but the ones that

00:07:39.660 go through and hit the second wall you'll see a double pattern one went through the left hole

00:07:44.840 one went through the right hole. Alternatively, if you have a pool of water and you send waves,

00:07:53.320 waves of energy up and down through the water towards two slits, well, that one wave source,

00:08:00.280 which is propagating out in circles, is going to reset when it gets to the hole. And now you'll

00:08:06.880 have the two holes being two waves propagating. And when you have two waves, they interfere with

00:08:12.120 each other. Sometimes they're twice as strong, sometimes they're twice as low, and other times

00:08:17.220 they cancel out. This is known as an interference pattern. And so Young performed the experiment

00:08:23.720 and demonstrated that when light went through these two holes, you got an interference pattern.

00:08:30.040 Ergo, light is a wave, leading to speculation about the luminous aether through which light

00:08:38.020 created the waves that we saw.

00:08:42.080 A century later, physics moves on, science moves on, and Einstein and Maxwell Planck

00:08:50.980 had been working on the beginnings of quantum theory.

00:08:56.940 And what they argued was that energy, particularly electromagnetic energy, has a smallest viable

00:09:05.940 unit.

00:09:06.760 the way they just

00:09:08.680 demonstrate this eventually

00:09:10.840 they proved it by

00:09:13.200 1923 but essentially

00:09:15.040 it's the photoelectric effect

00:09:16.240 think solar panels

00:09:18.240 an electron you might remember from

00:09:21.080 high school physics

00:09:21.980 it exists within electron

00:09:25.120 shells it's in the first shell

00:09:27.180 or it's in the second shell

00:09:28.540 there's no medium space

00:09:30.400 that it can be in it's in one or the other

00:09:33.160 and since when you

00:09:35.020 fire light

00:09:36.180 at a metal plate, you get electricity flowing off of it.

00:09:41.460 That means you're exciting electrons.

00:09:44.560 And so the energy is either below the threshold

00:09:48.740 or above the threshold.

00:09:51.060 Think of it like the question,

00:09:53.460 is light analog or digital?

00:09:57.360 And what they demonstrated was that light is digital.

00:10:02.000 It comes in discrete chunks, packets.

00:10:06.180 quanta, thus

00:10:09.400 quantum mechanics.

00:10:14.800 In other words, it's a bullet,

00:10:17.240 not a wave.

00:10:20.800 So what are we to make of this prior

00:10:23.560 experiment where it acted like a wave? Well, a few years later

00:10:27.260 was 1927.

00:10:30.920 Davison and Germer finally

00:10:34.120 managed to build a photon gun, a light source that would send the smallest viable amount

00:10:42.660 of light, a photon, through it, towards the double slit.

00:10:50.160 And here's where things started getting weird.

00:10:54.520 The light can't get any smaller than this.

00:10:56.680 It is, in effect, a bullet.

00:10:58.640 And if you're shining it at the two holes, you'd expect that you'd get the two lines on the other side.

00:11:08.100 After all, each photon that impacts on the third wall, or the far wall behind it, impacts somewhere specific.

00:11:18.220 One photon comes out, one photon is received, and we know exactly where it is received.

00:11:25.740 But that's not what they got.

00:11:28.640 When they fired one photon at a time, they still got an interference pattern.

00:11:35.720 It was statistically distributed.

00:11:38.100 So most of them would appear in the largest band.

00:11:41.540 A smaller number would appear in the next two bands.

00:11:44.340 Less than these two bands, etc.

00:11:45.800 But when you fired a thousand of them in a row, you got an interference pattern once again.

00:11:53.180 It was as if, even though you were firing the photons one at a time,

00:11:57.480 It was as if they were interacting with the other 999 photons

00:12:03.180 that were fired over the length of the experiment.

00:12:07.820 It's spooky.

00:12:11.380 It's about to get even spookier.

00:12:15.500 We had one photon going out.

00:12:17.620 It was definitely one photon.

00:12:19.400 And we had one photon on the receiver screen.

00:12:22.180 That was definitely one photon.

00:12:23.540 And it has to go either through the left hole or the right hole.

00:12:27.480 But it's acting like it's a million photons at once, interfering with one another until it gets to the far screen.

00:12:35.700 Okay, so what if we put a photon detector on one of the two slits?

00:12:44.720 All of a sudden, we started getting two bands, as if they were bullets.

00:12:51.180 Not just when they went through the slit with the photon detector.

00:12:55.260 you know they go through slit A

00:12:57.680 photon detector turns green

00:12:59.820 and then you get a bullet pattern over there

00:13:01.640 even when it didn't turn on

00:13:03.620 because it went through the other hole

00:13:04.660 you still got a bullet pattern

00:13:06.560 it's like the photon

00:13:09.340 knows we're watching it

00:13:11.100 that is the observer effect

00:13:17.580 that when you

00:13:19.420 examine particles

00:13:21.520 that are acting on the quantum

00:13:23.600 scale when you examine them

00:13:24.800 They act like bullets. They act like particles.

00:13:28.920 When you don't examine them, you let them do their own thing,

00:13:33.000 they act like a probability waveform.

00:13:35.960 As if the one photon going through

00:13:38.600 predicts all of the infinite number of ways

00:13:41.760 that it could go through these two holes,

00:13:44.040 and it's an infinite number of photons going through,

00:13:46.880 it finds the probability, and it picks one of those

00:13:49.000 when it hits the final screen.

00:13:50.780 In between the photon gun and the receiver wall, it's not a photon.

00:13:59.840 It's an infinite number of photons interacting with one another on a probability scale.

00:14:10.620 Now this is where most descriptions of the observer affect N.

00:14:15.880 they assume that

00:14:19.460 oh, so it's my

00:14:21.160 conscious observation

00:14:22.820 which altered the nature

00:14:25.140 of the universe

00:14:25.860 no, not exactly

00:14:29.820 it was the photon detector

00:14:31.840 that altered the nature of the universe

00:14:34.520 in fact, between the photon detector

00:14:38.960 and the little

00:14:41.000 LED light that turns green

00:14:42.840 when it detects a photon

00:14:43.920 and the light being received by your eyes

00:14:48.240 seeing the green light

00:14:49.820 interacting with your optical nerve

00:14:52.000 firing off neurons in your brain

00:14:54.160 you get what's called a von Neumann chain

00:14:58.100 of collapsed probabilities

00:15:00.620 but nowhere in the von Neumann chain

00:15:05.920 do you find

00:15:07.540 203 electrovolts of consciousness

00:15:12.640 There is no 5 pounds of awareness, or 343 joules of perception.

00:15:25.580 Observer is not a scientific concept.

00:15:33.180 Even though you can't have a scientific experiment without an observer.

00:15:38.840 so what this experiment what the observer effect is really pointing towards is not that your

00:15:48.060 conscious observation alters the nature of reality that's that's what most people say it

00:15:53.560 means but that's not what it's saying what it's saying is we thought observers were outside the

00:16:01.760 system imagine scientific experiments imagine them like a big pinball machine right an exceedingly

00:16:12.480 complex pinball machine locked behind glass and we've got a few controls on the outside we put a

00:16:18.880 quarter in ball appears we pull the puncher the ball flies up we can move a couple of the paddles

00:16:24.560 around. We can tilt the machine, and we've been drawing all of these inferences,

00:16:34.800 these conclusions, repeating these actions again and again, seeing how the

00:16:39.680 ball moves around inside the pinball machine. And what the Observer Effect

00:16:46.520 does is it makes us realize that we are not outside of the pinball machine. We

00:16:53.840 are part of the pinball machine itself. That this observer that's doing the scientific

00:16:59.920 experiments is also part of the experiment. That this reduction of the universe into nothing

00:17:08.480 but billiard balls? Well, it turns out we also are billiard balls. So what the heck's 0.67

00:17:14.100 going on there. This is the question of epistemology versus ontology. Epistemology from the Greek

00:17:28.980 to know, and ontology from the Greek to be, the nature of being.

00:17:34.900 Who remembers the fourth law of the Kabbalion?

00:17:43.300 All is polarity. 0.58

00:17:47.920 Epistemology, the things that we know,

00:17:52.180 and ontology, the things that we are,

00:17:58.400 are two halves of the same coin.

00:18:01.040 They're the north and south pole of a magnet.

00:18:04.900 that seem completely opposite, irreconcilable.

00:18:10.480 Where is the observer in scientific notation?

00:18:14.640 It's completely excluded from the entire scientific method,

00:18:18.080 the idea being that anybody can perform the experiment

00:18:20.520 and we'll get the same results.

00:18:21.820 You don't even need an observer.

00:18:25.120 Except without an observer,

00:18:27.280 you don't have the experiment.

00:18:30.360 Nobody's doing science at all,

00:18:32.280 if nobody's at home.

00:18:34.900 epistemology the world the world of it the world of thou ontology the world of i me we

00:18:56.020 perception itself and that which is perceived are like the north and south poles of a magnet

00:19:03.520 you can hold the magnet in your hand

00:19:06.180 and there's these invisible lines

00:19:08.440 of force going through the magnet

00:19:10.560 and around the magnet

00:19:11.660 the observer

00:19:15.820 is one side of the magnet

00:19:18.360 the observer effect

00:19:20.340 is the other side of the magnet

00:19:22.780 and this realm

00:19:26.560 of ontology

00:19:27.460 this realm of pure being

00:19:29.860 this realm of mathematics where we started with all

00:19:32.540 this sitting around and pondering until you can approach the infinite from a sideways direction

00:19:38.300 to discover something new about it that you could never do through experimentation

00:19:45.980 you can never prove that pi has infinite numbers by calculating pi because there's always more

00:19:54.620 numbers to discover. You have to prove that in a different manner. That's where ontology

00:20:02.700 exists. This is why the Pythagoreans were a religious sect. And this is where magic

00:20:11.100 exists. It's not contradictory to epistemology. There are things we know about the world.

00:20:20.240 there can also be things we know about ourselves.

00:20:24.940 And if we know things about ourselves, about our perception,

00:20:29.380 we can alter that in the same manner as we can alter the physical world.

00:20:39.160 This is where it starts to come together into something useful.

00:20:46.420 So when it comes to altering the physical world,

00:20:48.480 Maybe you have Grug the caveman

00:20:51.560 Who's trying to move a large boulder

00:20:54.120 And his punk teenage liberal son comes along

00:20:57.680 And says, hey dad

00:20:59.240 Instead of trying to group force the large boulder

00:21:02.700 What if we got a stick and a small boulder

00:21:06.160 And we levered it out of position

00:21:08.800 So many easy, funny little tricks

00:21:15.880 That you do

00:21:17.400 to alter the physical world.

00:21:21.300 Pretty basic.

00:21:22.420 Pulleys, levers,

00:21:25.220 maximum force on a small area.

00:21:29.780 You keep experimenting

00:21:31.340 with those little improvements

00:21:33.420 on pulleys and levers and ideas,

00:21:36.420 and a few thousand years later,

00:21:38.720 you've got Notre Dame Cathedral.

00:21:41.520 If you went to Grug the caveman

00:21:43.560 and showed him Notre Dame,

00:21:45.280 he'd say

00:21:47.440 that was magic, giants must have built it

00:21:50.420 a giant sky hook came down

00:21:52.860 and dropped that steeple on top

00:21:54.800 because there's no way anybody physically lifted all those stones

00:21:58.100 except they did

00:22:01.440 easy little tricks

00:22:04.380 that you get pursuing the physical sciences

00:22:07.900 and it's no different

00:22:12.580 when it comes to the mental sciences, to magic.

00:22:26.580 So I work, I've mentioned this before,

00:22:31.320 I work as an applied alchemist

00:22:34.020 in Alberta's oil and gas sector.

00:22:37.660 Rhythm, vibration, pressure differentials.

00:22:45.260 That's what I do there.

00:22:50.540 Hard work that pays fairly well.

00:22:57.620 And it tends to be very long hitches.

00:23:00.540 I'm usually gone for a few weeks when I'm working. 0.85

00:23:02.880 so when i'm going out to the field there's two ways that i could look at this

00:23:11.800 i could look at this and see well i am signing back up to be a slave for a few weeks time

00:23:22.060 my schedule's not my own my time's not my own my outfit is not my own everything is being

00:23:30.060 dictated towards me, I am effectively three weeks a slave.

00:23:38.860 A well-paid slave, but a slave nonetheless.

00:23:44.940 Or, or I could say to myself, me and the boys are here enough to go out into the deep wilderness

00:23:56.780 to find that precious substance

00:24:00.080 which is needed

00:24:01.820 for society

00:24:03.700 to continue existing

00:24:05.180 for 24 more hours

00:24:07.420 that we are risking life and limb

00:24:10.240 on a dangerous adventure

00:24:12.100 to achieve the essence

00:24:15.300 both of those stories

00:24:21.240 are true

00:24:22.700 but which story

00:24:26.240 I choose to believe in

00:24:28.240 is going to have a massive

00:24:35.760 massive effect

00:24:37.800 on the outcomes

00:24:39.360 one of the reasons

00:24:45.280 that we do

00:24:48.200 mental hygiene, that we do

00:24:49.880 personal inventories, that we

00:24:51.840 re-examine the lessons we learned in our

00:24:53.740 childhoods

00:24:54.960 is because we can learn very bad lessons.

00:25:01.100 We can interpret things the wrong way,

00:25:02.800 and we can repeat that destructive pattern ad nauseam

00:25:07.300 until we re-examine it and flip the script.

00:25:18.500 So just the same as Grug the Caveman learning to use a simple lever,

00:25:22.120 However, if you start applying this regularly in your own life, if you start manipulating, controlling where you're looking, what you're perceiving, what part of the story are you in? 0.98

00:25:38.320 Your life sucks? 0.54

00:25:40.320 Well, maybe you're in the part of the story at the beginning where the protagonist is getting beat down. 1.00

00:25:46.680 That's not so bad then.

00:25:47.660 It means that you're going to have a happy ending.

00:25:49.600 Just got to keep grinding.

00:25:52.120 Imagine doing that

00:25:58.240 for thousands of years

00:26:00.600 the way that we've been doing

00:26:04.000 simple levers.

00:26:06.840 The result

00:26:08.200 if you want to be dismissive

00:26:10.700 and tell me that Notre Dame isn't magic

00:26:13.000 well go right ahead.

00:26:15.360 But imagine having that much control

00:26:17.080 over your reality

00:26:18.900 through simply manipulating

00:26:20.420 their own perceptions.

00:26:22.120 And one final concrete example of how perception alters reality.

00:26:31.580 At the start of this video, I promised, if you watched it all the way through, that your

00:26:36.520 psychic abilities would begin manifesting more strongly, that you'd become more effective.

00:26:43.440 I have, in fact, shown you some examples of how you can do that.

00:26:47.500 But the reason I said that was to instantiate a placebo effect in you.

00:26:55.520 Even though I'm telling you it's the placebo effect, it's still going to work on you.

00:27:01.720 You are going to become more aware of yourself and of others around you.

00:27:07.680 What their more complex, the hologram behind their eyes, behind their motives.

00:27:13.060 you're going to see clearer and you're going to become more effective just because I'm telling

00:27:19.640 you so. And finally, I said, what if we'd spent thousands of years studying how to manipulate

00:27:28.620 the psyche to achieve better outcomes? What might that look like?

00:27:34.820 Here's a second question. What makes you think people haven't been doing exactly that?

00:27:43.060 Kave, Kave, Deus, V-det, this is Arini, out.

00:28:13.060 .

00:28:43.060 Thank you.

Leo D.M.J. Aurini - May 06, 2026

The Interface Between Science and Magic

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript