Leo D.M.J. Aurini - Theology, the Church, and the Locus of Morality with Samseau

00:00:00.000 Hey folks, welcome to this impromptu live stream with my friend Sam So from the Roosh

00:00:08.820 Bee Forum.

00:00:09.820 Now, the topic of this, as in the title, Theology, the Church, and the Locus of Morality, we're

00:00:16.380 going to be discussing kind of what the church is focusing on and maybe what it is missing.

00:00:22.380 And I'd like to start this with a couple of themes that are going to be running through

00:00:27.120 it.

00:00:28.120 Number one is don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

00:00:33.740 I worry that at times by emphasizing really strict, really absolutist morality,

00:00:40.820 well, it's sort of like if you punish your children all the time,

00:00:43.260 the children are going to rebel.

00:00:44.900 You know, sometimes you need to hold on loosely.

00:00:46.360 And the second aspect is that when you approach holiness in your own life,

00:00:53.700 you become more and more aware of your own sinful nature.

00:00:58.120 Ergo, the irony that the man who is steeped in sin thinks that he's walking in the light.

00:01:04.260 Whereas the man that's trying to walk in the light becomes increasingly aware of his own scars, his own flaws, his own mistakes.

00:01:11.860 And this should not be driving you away from holiness as you recognize your issues and your immorality.

00:01:19.600 This needs to be accepted.

00:01:20.960 Sometimes you've got to say, you know what, I'm okay with being me.

00:01:23.980 I'm getting better each day, you know, and that's the important thing.

00:01:28.300 So I want to emphasize here, we are not going to be encouraging heresy.

00:01:35.520 We're not encouraging that you just do whatever you want.

00:01:38.260 We are encouraging that you accept your flaws and continue to stand proud.

00:01:43.480 Now, Samso is a very frequent poster on the Roche V Forum.

00:01:49.060 He's a member of the Eastern Orthodox Church,

00:01:52.040 and he brings up a lot.

00:01:54.340 He's one of these posters I absolutely love

00:01:55.920 because he's coming from a very different place than me.

00:01:58.640 He's very erudite,

00:02:00.800 and I'm challenged by his opinions.

00:02:05.980 Is that a fair assessment of you, brother?

00:02:08.200 Anything else you want to add?

00:02:09.580 What's your emphasis?

00:02:11.800 What drives you to write about the things you do?

00:02:16.260 Sure, and I'd like to just thank you

00:02:18.260 for having me here, Davis, because I always appreciate other people bringing me onto their

00:02:25.660 platforms and having a chance to hear a real skeptic. Fundamentally, I am a skeptic, but I'm

00:02:35.720 not like your typical skeptics. No two skeptics are truly alike. I am very much a member of the

00:02:43.260 through an Orthodox church. I was baptized at birth. I like to write on the Rochefue Forum

00:02:49.680 because there's a huge audience there and I have a huge influence. I don't really care about having

00:02:54.460 my own brand, my own blog, or my own fame. None of that means much to me. I just want to see the

00:02:59.780 right things done. I much prefer to be the person in the background pulling the strings as like the

00:03:05.220 puppeteer. And it makes it harder for my enemies to get me, which I do have, even though I do my

00:03:11.340 best to stay hidden and I was a philosophy major I wanted to go to law

00:03:21.060 school I ended up leaving law school because it was such a horrible deal for

00:03:26.640 reasons I'm not going to go into right now I got out unscathed and I kind of

00:03:31.800 just got taken care of by God he provided for me against unbelievable odds

00:03:35.880 and I'm here today to share the things I've learned and the things I see because

00:03:41.640 I have a perfectly logical mind that was stepped in the world's oldest religious

00:03:48.300 tradition I like to dance it's my preferred method of meeting girls and

00:03:55.020 I'm also just very I've been an early reader I started to learn to read when I

00:04:02.460 i was like two years old and i've basically crushed a huge section of the western canon

00:04:08.720 as a result of that talent so when you talk with me and when anyone talks with me i'm able to uh

00:04:15.480 draw inferences from a large volume and challenge them as a skeptic because fundamentally i don't

00:04:24.000 really think people actually know what they're talking about and myself included that's why it's

00:04:29.380 important to uh look at any problem from many many angles you need that that historicity which you

00:04:40.580 have from actually reading archives is something i've been talking a lot about lately as people

00:04:45.620 don't know their history all they know is pop culture yeah people don't and it's a shame

00:04:51.120 because i didn't learn any history in school i graduated 24 years of school didn't know a

00:04:56.680 damn thing about history. I learned it all on my own in my 20s. I had to do it the old-fashioned way,

00:05:01.960 reading through books, starting with Wikipedia articles, going to secondary sources, and

00:05:06.540 connecting to what other philosophers had written about their own time periods. It was a long,

00:05:12.300 painstaking process that probably took me about a solid five years on my own to achieve. And history

00:05:18.680 by far is one of the most important subjects, and no one studies it, which is a major problem. It's

00:05:23.480 why our culture is dying because we're so disconnected from our past well i took history

00:05:28.540 i learned very little history taking a history degree how sad is that it's they had a feminist

00:05:37.420 history teacher teach me the feminist history of canada which is absolutely everything but the

00:05:42.180 history of canada and sadly that is the majority of courses you know the classics weren't too badly

00:05:49.060 infected when I was there, but it wouldn't surprise me now to find out that they aren't

00:05:53.260 being taught either. But if you want to understand the classics, go to Quintus Curtius' blog. He's

00:05:57.280 the only one that'll be telling you the truth of it. He's fantastic. Quintus is top-notch.

00:06:04.100 I've nearly done his book, The Sallust, about the Cataline conspiracy, and it's absolutely

00:06:13.200 wonderful. There are so many applicable moral lessons for the modern day. But that's it. I

00:06:20.680 want to jump onto the focus of this. The reason I want to have you on is that you said something

00:06:27.620 to me the other day about, and this fits with a lot of stuff that's been broiling in my mind,

00:06:33.760 it's been bouncing around, that you think the church is approaching sexuality

00:06:40.780 in not exactly a position of error, but a position of overemphasis.

00:06:47.560 Could you expand upon that?

00:06:49.740 Okay, so there's a number of things I believe is fundamentally going on.

00:06:53.680 And, you know, this is very relevant to my everyday life.

00:06:57.480 I teach Sunday school now.

00:06:59.200 I've been teaching for over a year, and one of the things I look through the Sunday school books is their teachings on sexuality, even within the Orthodox Church.

00:07:08.360 I've looked at the Protestant and the Catholic's position, and basically, they're all written for a time that was completely different than ours, with totally different circumstances, different technologies.

00:07:22.020 and I think in a way it's like Satan is destroying the church

00:07:27.040 by pitting modern sexuality against classical teachings from the church

00:07:32.520 so people are like well gee I can either have love or I can have God

00:07:36.280 I can have a woman in my bed

00:07:38.800 I can have a man who loves me or I can have Christ

00:07:42.420 and so people choose what's there next to them

00:07:45.620 They say, well, this Christly love seems empty compared to a real person, a real human's love.

00:07:53.320 And that's the number one reason I think Christianity is hemorrhaging members today.

00:07:58.900 And it's a serious problem because the older generations don't have a clue what's going on.

00:08:05.460 They can't understand it.

00:08:07.400 Let me insert something.

00:08:08.760 They cannot understand just how corrupt and damaged things have become.

00:08:13.180 but I put the pieces together

00:08:16.320 it's taken me a ton of work

00:08:18.660 because I notice

00:08:20.440 there's just

00:08:21.200 something never sat right with me

00:08:23.620 the way that the church taught

00:08:25.040 Christianity

00:08:26.320 save yourself for marriage

00:08:30.320 and it's like well that's good and fine

00:08:32.040 but the devil has fucked up our time

00:08:34.260 pardon my language

00:08:35.560 there are no virgins

00:08:36.680 what do you do?

00:08:40.180 what good is the advice?

00:08:41.640 find a virgin for marriage when

00:08:43.540 Satan has managed

00:08:45.840 to get everyone to lose their virginity today

00:08:47.840 through a combination of technology

00:08:50.180 mass media

00:08:51.580 and

00:08:52.900 mass education

00:08:57.480 a triple whammy

00:08:58.780 I wrote about this a while back

00:09:01.100 about how it is such a razor edge

00:09:03.900 of morality with the extreme

00:09:06.200 temptation and the

00:09:07.940 the cultural propaganda

00:09:09.740 all of it and what you wind up with is the sort of person generally nine times out of ten when you

00:09:16.120 need a virgin one time out of ten it'll be somebody that is very strong-willed and very

00:09:21.500 dedicated to morality but still wants to be a good husband or wife the other nine times you're going

00:09:28.900 to find somebody that's twisted up their own sexuality into something ugly and hateful and

00:09:34.680 they won't be able to. It depends on their age. I've actually, I actually wrote a Return of Kings

00:09:39.780 article about this. Yeah. For those who don't know, I've written for Return of Kings. I helped

00:09:42.620 get that site off the ground. And I'm very pleased with what Return of Kings has accomplished. And

00:09:48.360 of course, Davis, you've written there as well. One of the articles I wrote was, you know,

00:09:54.420 a woman's virginity means nothing. And I purposely chose a strong title, sort of as clickbait,

00:10:02.020 But also to emphasize that, you know, just because a girl's virgin, what does that mean today?

00:10:07.200 It's probably because she's just too young to have had sex or he has too young to have sex.

00:10:11.820 The person's too young.

00:10:13.060 If they're still a virgin past the age of 20, it's either they've actually have strong religious groundings or they have serious issues.

00:10:22.660 And if a woman is a virgin past like 24, it's usually what you mean as a young girl between the age of 16 through 24,

00:10:30.480 or you rejected every man and couldn't marry anyone?

00:10:33.520 Does that sound right to you?

00:10:35.520 A man who is starving because there's no food in his country

00:10:38.680 doesn't get any points for not being a glutton.

00:10:42.220 Right, right.

00:10:43.580 And that's another thing.

00:10:44.420 If a man's a virgin, is it because he's pious

00:10:49.960 or because he's just a gamma or a beta or worse or whatever?

00:10:55.060 You know, he just can't get any.

00:10:56.800 And that's a, you know, first of all, let's just put this in context.

00:10:59.400 It's a horrible way that we actually have to think about things.

00:11:02.360 We have to think – like today, sex is viewed as such a cavalier way.

00:11:08.020 Man is expected to have sexual prowess, and if he doesn't, then we assume something's wrong with him.

00:11:15.600 So, you know, just remember, things weren't like that for like the past, what?

00:11:21.280 I think things didn't start to begin that way until like the turn of the 20th century.

00:11:25.280 And even then, it was a long time coming.

00:11:28.080 It didn't really hit mainstream until the 1960s.

00:11:31.160 But adultery was rampant during World War II.

00:11:33.860 It was already getting horrible at that point.

00:11:38.480 Actually, the greatest analogy to our present day is actually the situation the Apostle Paul found himself in.

00:11:46.260 Horribly decadent.

00:11:49.800 People just fucked willy-nilly back in the Roman days whenever they felt like it, whenever they could.

00:11:56.200 And I do believe the vast majority of sex outside of marriage was with whores, though.

00:12:02.840 I don't think people just had recreational sex unless they were in the upper classes and they could afford it.

00:12:07.380 For the average peasant slave woman, she would have to trade her sex away for something because she was always desperate and in a desperate situation.

00:12:17.120 Whoring was just the way of the world.

00:12:19.760 And it still is in many poor countries.

00:12:22.540 There's a cultural foundational difference that came about. There were a number of natural

00:12:31.740 impediments on the sexual act. So you could aggressively pursue a woman and a woman could

00:12:38.780 aggressively be flirtatious. However, you're doing this in a small town. You don't have a car where

00:12:45.900 you can go up to make out point and disappear. You don't have all these natural, these easy to

00:12:50.660 achieve prophylactics, you could go out and be an alpha male, to use the game terminology,

00:12:59.600 back in the 1500s or 1800s or whenever.

00:13:03.280 You could go out and be an alpha male and pursue women vigorously and still remain chaste

00:13:09.040 up until the point of marriage, where areas these days are so easy to fall in.

00:13:17.380 To put a man and woman by themselves in a room, there's a very good chance that things

00:13:22.180 are going to happen, okay?

00:13:23.680 And that is our biology, as C.S. Lewis has pointed out, yes, we're spiritual creatures,

00:13:28.180 but we are also biological creatures.

00:13:30.840 We are also animals.

00:13:32.920 And that can't be ignored, which is what I think you were saying about the older generation

00:13:37.500 completely missing out on this biology, on the extreme temptations, on the circumstances

00:13:43.000 and what it is doing to modern young people yeah they don't appreciate the levels of temptation

00:13:50.440 the way that the culture has changed as and also just the idea that uh virginity is just dismissed

00:13:59.240 it's completely mocked as a concept the soul is not acknowledged in any form or shape within

00:14:08.520 our education system talking about the school is like talking about our education teaches that

00:14:17.100 you were born that way that you can't help your temptations and you just need to indulge in them

00:14:21.660 that's modernism it's the exact opposite okay sex ed has the implicit assumption that you're

00:14:28.440 going to have sex so here's how to do it safely quote unquote safe of course this just turns

00:14:34.340 women into sluts from an early age and they're

00:14:36.260 fucked for life. And because of this

00:14:38.340 and because of the school

00:14:40.160 culture which encourages early

00:14:42.260 sex

00:14:42.780 and because they all gravitate to alpha males

00:14:46.280 it means the vast majority of men get

00:14:48.080 fucked over bad and the vast

00:14:50.100 majority of women get destroyed.

00:14:52.920 So we're in a situation

00:14:54.340 where the women have been trashed.

00:14:57.380 Okay?

00:14:58.040 The men

00:14:58.560 the alpha males

00:15:02.460 they get to indulge

00:15:04.320 But they're not necessarily to blame.

00:15:07.580 A lot of them are, but I think most of them don't even know what the hell's going on.

00:15:12.740 They're just taking it as it comes.

00:15:14.680 Why wouldn't they, right?

00:15:15.780 If someone throws money at you, why wouldn't you take it?

00:15:18.300 It's the same thing.

00:15:21.700 It's pretty obvious to me that the betas, right, in which everyone is born a beta, okay?

00:15:26.700 And there's no really – the quote-unquote natural alpha males in schools are just the guys who grow up faster.

00:15:32.380 everyone's born a beta and dies a beta

00:15:35.800 your life follows a natural arc

00:15:38.200 all men's lives

00:15:40.360 have the same arc

00:15:41.120 so the

00:15:44.260 betas in school who are left

00:15:46.240 without anything because they're just going at a normal pace

00:15:48.180 while the women are gravitating

00:15:50.100 to the top guys and losing their virginities

00:15:52.000 to the same groups of men

00:15:53.100 leave the betas with no choices

00:15:56.300 if they want to be pious

00:15:58.040 well and the way that it's orchestrated

00:16:02.320 The way that it's vocalized, well, it becomes feminism 2.0, where the woman gets destroyed by the alpha males that she's been throwing herself at, but rather –

00:16:13.100 Which is incredible.

00:16:13.780 But she claims the invisible betas.

00:16:15.420 The betas are the ones that are blamed for it and told that you betas need to stop acting like alphas.

00:16:21.180 You need to stop being entitled.

00:16:22.540 Well, that's only later.

00:16:23.520 That's only later.

00:16:25.020 See, no, no, no.

00:16:26.040 In modern culture, they like – the women are 30.

00:16:29.400 They're like, where did all the good men go?

00:16:31.060 you know we give away six too easy you know they've realized they fucked up

00:16:35.680 way after the fact and it started with their parents their parents did an awful

00:16:41.560 job and their parents did an awful job and it goes back to the Ten Commandments

00:16:45.340 your sins will be visited upon your third and fourth generations hello that's how

00:16:53.240 God works is it fair not from our point of view but from God's point of view

00:16:59.380 there's a purpose to these things. So a lot of the things we see today started generations ago

00:17:06.100 and came from horrible teachings and it poisoned the culture and the teachings about sex where it

00:17:13.260 started with just adultery. And then it ends with forget marriage, just be a slut, be promiscuous,

00:17:22.780 have fun, settle down. If you happen to meet someone, it doesn't matter if you have kids,

00:17:26.400 It doesn't matter if you get married.

00:17:27.780 That's where we're at now.

00:17:29.040 See how fast things degenerated.

00:17:30.840 It only took about, what, from, I'd say it really started in the 40s.

00:17:35.720 And I think the poisonous atmosphere of World War I and World War II actually wars also horribly simple.

00:17:44.300 And I'll be talking about that.

00:17:45.980 Like, the greatest analogy to today's world within sexual terms is like World War I or World War II.

00:17:52.260 At the rate women destroy themselves.

00:17:53.800 was no different than the way men were destroying themselves,

00:17:56.120 murdering each other in the name of some bullshit country.

00:17:59.320 It was just as sinful, but for different reasons.

00:18:02.840 So anyways, it started with the wars.

00:18:04.920 It ended with mass adultery,

00:18:06.440 and now it's corrupted itself into a degenerate culture

00:18:09.540 that has no more marriage and love.

00:18:12.980 And for that matter, very, very little respect for God.

00:18:18.340 But meanwhile, the church,

00:18:20.660 rather than understanding the great forces at work here,

00:18:23.800 and being practical about it the church still clings to some dogmatic

00:18:28.880 it clings to a dogmatic view that

00:18:33.760 you know we just gotta say okay guys sex outside marriage is bad

00:18:37.540 even though it's like what would they supposed to would have been the great

00:18:41.280 masses of betas

00:18:42.480 who have no virgin women what they supposed to do they're supposed to wait

00:18:47.180 until marriage with these these skanks you know you know we all know

00:18:51.500 We know right away why that's a disaster, and we don't need the Bible to tell us that either.

00:18:55.920 There's nothing in the Bible about this kind of situation.

00:18:58.860 See, Satan fundamentally knows what the Bible says.

00:19:02.720 So he creates loopholes and puts people in situations that has no clear answer in the Bible.

00:19:09.040 So then you're forced to use your judgment.

00:19:11.180 You're forced to use your own spiritual nature to help guide you through it,

00:19:15.640 Which, of course, without any kind of, I think, really guidance from the church on these difficult matters, because fundamentally it should be the priests who help guide the flock through these difficult matters.

00:19:28.120 People aren't going to be able to figure it out.

00:19:29.800 They're just going to give up on the faith, and then they go to hell.

00:19:33.280 The church is to blame because they did not properly – they were outsmarted by Satan.

00:19:43.000 They were outsmarted.

00:19:44.340 They were put in a situation they could not understand or cope with.

00:19:47.240 And the Catholic Church in particular is very vulnerable

00:19:49.540 because they've always emphasized their priests not to get married.

00:19:52.820 So they are completely disconnected from the realities of the dating world

00:19:57.020 and the marriage world,

00:19:58.120 and they can't understand what the men and women are going through.

00:20:01.400 But you know what?

00:20:02.480 It's still really bad in the Protestant Church,

00:20:04.620 and it's still really bad in the Orthodox churches,

00:20:06.860 although I think the Orthodox churches tend to have a higher amount of virgins,

00:20:11.920 Maybe just a bit more, but not even close to enough to satisfy all the virgin men out there.

00:20:17.420 So, of course, the virgin men, they're left frustrated until they finally snap and say,

00:20:22.600 fuck it, I need to get laid.

00:20:24.400 I'm not a monk.

00:20:26.360 And by the way, 99% of men will never be monks.

00:20:30.300 God did not make us that way.

00:20:32.440 And then when they do that, they suddenly get alienated from the church.

00:20:37.680 Right.

00:20:38.040 They say, well, geez, I'm being told I'm a huge sinner just because I'm a man.

00:20:43.200 It's not like they were getting married at 16, like we used to, you know,

00:20:47.360 when those urges started becoming dominant in the human family.

00:20:50.580 And they take the Apostle Paul's teachings completely out of context.

00:20:57.700 The Apostle Paul was writing in an age of slavery, for Christ's sakes, right?

00:21:02.540 He was writing in an age where the father could just marry his daughter off and the daughter had virtually no say.

00:21:09.940 Of course you should wait for marriage, right?

00:21:12.260 Why wouldn't you?

00:21:14.060 Go talk to a good man.

00:21:15.640 Talk to a good family.

00:21:18.780 If you've got the money and ready to live a family life and you convince that father that you'll be an excellent choice for his daughter,

00:21:25.540 then you get married and that's what everyone was doing.

00:21:28.140 if you were even and you didn't have to be like you know a college educated mastermind you could

00:21:35.360 be just a regular guy with a regular job you'd be a fisherman you could take care of horses you'd

00:21:40.260 smash steel around and make swords whatever there was a million ways to make a living

00:21:44.740 and provide for family it was the choice of avoiding whores back then really was a matter

00:21:53.100 of like you know

00:21:54.220 I would say not watching porn

00:21:56.740 porn today

00:21:58.880 is sort of like how

00:22:00.740 it was back then if you wanted you could

00:22:02.880 choose to go to the

00:22:03.960 the forum at night right that's why they

00:22:06.960 call them fornicators by the way that word fornicators

00:22:09.160 that's a mistranslated word

00:22:11.140 it only means whoring

00:22:13.060 I know it gets put around

00:22:14.900 especially in the Catholics

00:22:16.080 their translation of fornicator

00:22:18.620 means to have sex in general but that

00:22:20.920 that somehow got

00:22:22.060 misinterpreted over time. Sometime around St. Thomas Aquinas, to the best of my knowledge,

00:22:28.080 it originally meant the forum, right? That arch was called something like a fornix or something

00:22:37.400 in Latin. So those who were hanging out under the arch in the forum, those were where the

00:22:42.400 whores hung out and solicited sex from other men for cash and prizes or whatever. So the word

00:22:48.000 fornicator actually is just means whoring. The word slut doesn't really

00:22:53.880 appear in the Bible, but people would argue, you know, what's the difference

00:22:57.100 between a whore and a slut? There's an article that I tweeted out earlier today

00:23:03.060 about a man who escaped homosexuality, but not without a lot of scars. It's a

00:23:09.120 very brutal article to read, but in it he writes about this wrongheaded

00:23:16.720 pursuit of God through sodomy, about all of the vicious physical damage that came along

00:23:24.420 with it, but how there was this hunger for male acceptance being orchestrated in a completely

00:23:30.720 incorrect manner.

00:23:32.600 So when we're talking about the fornicator, it's a very similar thing as this guy going

00:23:37.140 to the bathhouses, where the fornicator is constantly seeking God through a whore's

00:23:42.980 vagina.

00:23:43.660 And he's getting the physical rewards of that, the dead children and the STDs from it all.

00:23:52.300 It's a compulsive behavior as opposed to the romance of grabbing a girl and taking her onto the dance floor.

00:24:03.240 And it's also – there's another difference too, right?

00:24:07.480 A whore will have sex with anyone if the price is right.

00:24:09.900 She'll have sex with an old man.

00:24:11.900 A slut actually has lust for you.

00:24:16.260 Right?

00:24:16.940 So you can obviously see the difference.

00:24:18.960 And I did manage to find something in the Christian tradition which supports this view.

00:24:24.460 It's a Saint Mary of Egypt, if anyone wants to look this up.

00:24:29.680 Please tell her story.

00:24:30.880 Because you've done a lot of this research with one of your priests as well, haven't you?

00:24:36.120 But could you get a bit of backstory to this?

00:24:38.020 He's an excellent, excellent, pious, holy priest.

00:24:42.420 He gets no recognition, and that's how you know he's the man, okay?

00:24:46.540 That's how you know this guy walks with God.

00:24:48.100 He takes care of bums in his church all the time.

00:24:51.040 His church is broke all the time.

00:24:53.920 This guy walks with God every single day.

00:24:56.120 It's amazing.

00:24:56.740 I have an amazing priest.

00:24:59.060 He doesn't get nearly the recognition he deserves,

00:25:01.480 and that's pretty much like the mark of piety, by the way.

00:25:05.220 So, St. Mary of Egypt was a woman who lived in Egypt sometime around, I think around the 300s, after Constantine, when Christianity was really becoming popular.

00:25:19.360 Now, I see someone say, a slut works for free.

00:25:22.580 True, a slut works for free.

00:25:24.440 But does that mean a woman who marries is a whore with a higher price?

00:25:31.080 Actually, saying a slut works for free is actually a higher act.

00:25:34.460 In a way, when you teach, when you give charity, you're giving away for free.

00:25:42.640 Isn't that a virtue?

00:25:43.960 Something for free is a virtue.

00:25:45.900 Money is sin.

00:25:46.760 Money is bad.

00:25:47.980 If you have to do things for money, then you're not acting for your neighbor, which is the number one or number two commandment.

00:25:57.260 It is you got to live for your neighbor.

00:25:58.960 If you don't live for your neighbor, then you're not with God.

00:26:02.580 Okay.

00:26:03.100 So anyway, St. Mary of Egypt is – she apparently – I don't know what happened.

00:26:10.780 She was born to a single mom or just a messed up family.

00:26:13.560 She ran away from home and just became a crazy, crazy slut.

00:26:17.760 She would just fuck guys at random all the time.

00:26:21.860 I don't know how the hell she survived.

00:26:23.900 She basically just was addicted to sex from birth is like the best description you can get.

00:26:29.960 and she managed to steal away onto a ship

00:26:33.860 headed to the Church of the Holy Spulcher

00:26:37.120 and she fucked her way across the ship,

00:26:40.560 fucked her way across the Mediterranean.

00:26:42.340 It's an unbelievable account to read this, by the way.

00:26:45.080 If you read it online, it's pretty unbelievable.

00:26:48.400 She gets to the Church of the Holy Spulcher.

00:26:49.680 She can't get in.

00:26:51.140 She's held back by an invisible force.

00:26:55.220 And then she realizes she's been living a horrible life.

00:26:59.960 And she has a complete breakdown, and she apparently sees the spirit of St. Mary.

00:27:09.740 And she apologizes and vows that if she would be let in, she would turn against her old ways.

00:27:18.520 And she does.

00:27:20.320 She repents right there and then.

00:27:22.520 She's no longer held by the force.

00:27:24.200 She goes into church.

00:27:24.900 She's holy sculpture, has amazing conversion.

00:27:26.800 Here's a voice in her head to say, live out in the desert.

00:27:29.960 of egypt and apparently like in this when christian was becoming popular there was

00:27:34.440 tons of monks just like headed out into the desert to live like a pious life it was

00:27:39.880 it's pretty incredible there were like thousands of them doing this back then you really wonder

00:27:44.600 how the hell they survived but i haven't like looked into it my priest talked about this

00:27:48.440 there's books about it called like cities in the desert just entire communities of

00:27:52.120 monks living in the deserts of egypt so she basically she just lived out in the desert

00:27:58.520 and god somehow provided for her she was eventually discovered by another monk another group of monks

00:28:05.080 who were living out in the desert and she was like basically naked and her skin was almost totally

00:28:12.920 black because she's been exposed to sun for so many decades and she said she had a vision to

00:28:19.160 tell her story before she died and she told the whole story of what i just told you and what the

00:28:25.720 key point of this this whole story is that she says at one point she goes you know she says in

00:28:32.820 her defense she's saying she's telling her story of her rampant sluttery she goes I never took any

00:28:39.520 money and this is a venerated saint venerated of the orthodox tradition one of the earliest women's

00:28:47.020 saints of the early church so she makes the distinction right there and then

00:28:54.220 between slut versus whore therefore I am inclined to disagree with the idea that

00:29:02.800 you know even if you have sex outside of marriage just for last year's still a

00:29:06.280 whore I disagree there's no money involved and that's a big deal and it

00:29:10.360 and this woman who survived out in the desert had her story passed down to all

00:29:16.120 these monks who totally believed her, and they witnessed miracles with her. They said she was

00:29:21.060 buried by a lion who helped the monk dig her grave and then walked away peacefully without

00:29:26.680 attacking the monk, right? Crazy miracles, right? This, in my opinion, is a clear indication that

00:29:35.960 there's a major difference between sluttery versus whoredom, and I think today's women

00:29:42.560 are basically all saint mary's of egypt they've been lied they've been misled they've destroyed

00:29:48.480 themselves spiritually they're unable to bond but they're not fundamentally whores and i don't think

00:29:53.840 they want to be whores but in a way if in the way our current culture is headed i do notice

00:29:59.340 prostitution is on their eyes with stuff like seekingarrangement.com and stuff like that

00:30:04.700 because the end game of the sexual revolution with women just fucking all the time

00:30:08.920 just for guys that they like.

00:30:11.440 The end game of that is love dies,

00:30:14.880 and then women just have – it goes back to your ways.

00:30:16.720 They only have sex with you if you can give them something,

00:30:19.620 especially because the problem with rampant promiscuity

00:30:24.700 is that there's no more birth rates.

00:30:27.620 There's no more marriages.

00:30:28.700 There's no more sustainable birth rates.

00:30:30.800 So now the pool of attractive young fertile women sharply declines,

00:30:36.180 and the women, the mercenary-type women who realize,

00:30:38.660 wow I have so much demand for my little snatch why wouldn't they charge money

00:30:43.280 for it the the gold diggers the problem with equating lottery and being a whore

00:30:51.200 is that it completely misses that it's the sluttery that leads to more and more

00:30:57.020 women becoming horse it's right failing to distinguish what is actually going on

00:31:02.480 and instead taking an overly simplistic, an ignorant view that all these things are exactly alike.

00:31:13.580 Right. It's a binary black and white.

00:31:17.140 You're either a chaste or you're a whore.

00:31:21.340 In reality, it's just like any sin.

00:31:24.540 It's a sliding scale with the perfect virgin marriage on one end

00:31:28.660 and the shameless whore on the other end.

00:31:31.840 But there's a sliding scale of sluttery, of men who fall to the temptation, of adulterers.

00:31:40.280 And then it gets worse and worse down the scale of sexual sin until you reach the point where you just prefer whores or you are a whore.

00:31:50.280 And you can see this with the extreme whorn addicts that they outright worship the whores.

00:31:58.280 They want to constantly listen.

00:32:00.440 like they think the whores are the wisest people on the planet they're not just enjoying the they're

00:32:06.760 not just enjoying pornography to get their nut off they're admiring these women who would never

00:32:12.360 sleep with them except for money like why would you want to be with those disgusting ass women

00:32:18.120 like do you know where they've been man you know it's the uh they do know where they've

00:32:22.920 been they've seen all of it and they still worship it's unbelievable i think um when i

00:32:29.720 was younger i'd watch porn because i didn't understand i thought oh i'm not paying for it

00:32:34.360 therefore i'm not whoring i just get it for free on the internet but then i'm like wait a minute as

00:32:39.240 i grew older first of all they're still taking payment for someone so they're still horse

00:32:44.600 and just by me watching them i'm helping propagate this whoring and then i'm like

00:32:51.160 if your rich friend buys you a whore she's still a whore even though you didn't pay for it right

00:32:57.480 Now, I would say pornography is definitely not as toxic as literally putting your dick inside of some filthy snatch of a whore.

00:33:03.820 However, Jesus does say he who lusts with his eyes has committed adultery in his heart.

00:33:09.000 So why wouldn't it be that he who lusts for a whore has not committed whoring in his heart?

00:33:13.640 I don't see the difference. Do you?

00:33:15.000 so what would you

00:33:18.240 what would you say to young men

00:33:22.220 that are trying

00:33:24.080 to deal with

00:33:24.940 the challenges of the sexual

00:33:27.880 look if you gotta beat it

00:33:29.760 and I hate to be crude

00:33:31.860 but sometimes I think

00:33:33.480 this is another thing I think we should be crude

00:33:35.320 Jesus is actually pretty crude in some parts of the bible

00:33:37.740 he didn't use fancy language

00:33:39.180 he used the slur pegs

00:33:41.820 and swine which was like the ultimate swear word

00:33:43.980 in the Jewish world back then, you know, don't cast me.

00:33:46.600 The Bekoff loves to point out that when Christ said to the Pharisees

00:33:50.680 that your deeds are as good as dirty rags,

00:33:53.740 he was talking about diapers and menstrual pads when he said that.

00:33:59.080 Right.

00:33:59.880 Yeah, no, Jesus used vulgar language.

00:34:01.700 He said, yeah, he used vulgar language sometimes.

00:34:04.360 He said, you know, to the Apostle Paul,

00:34:06.040 why do you kick me in the pricks during the conversion?

00:34:10.220 What does that mean, pricks?

00:34:11.700 As far as I can tell, it means he's kicking Jesus in the nuts by prosecuting Christians like that.

00:34:17.620 Or it means shins, or it means nuts.

00:34:19.840 But why do you kick me in the pricks, right?

00:34:22.120 Sounds like kick me in the balls, doesn't it?

00:34:25.560 I'd say so.

00:34:26.500 Listen, having studied Latin history, there's a lot of this,

00:34:32.180 where it's not immediately obvious to us how vulgar it is, but it is vulgar.

00:34:37.300 It's just that we translate it in a very highfalutin manner.

00:34:41.480 to not offend the sensibilities of the 18th century school mind.

00:34:47.460 Right. And it's not that, because we did go through, you know,

00:34:51.400 1,500 years of domination by the church, and reviling is a sin, according to St. Paul.

00:34:55.900 So they tried to clean up language and enforce it,

00:34:58.300 and they did this by cleaning up the language in the Bible as well.

00:35:01.580 But by cleaning up the language in the Bible, they forgot those times that led to the sins in the first place.

00:35:07.620 So I think it's important, especially when adults talk to each other, frankly.

00:35:11.480 about the Bible, they should use vulgar

00:35:13.800 language. And we should

00:35:15.720 understand we're not doing it to sin, but

00:35:17.640 to be honest. So

00:35:19.480 like I say, if guys got to beat it,

00:35:22.020 use real women.

00:35:23.680 Don't use fucking whores.

00:35:25.500 Find athletes. Find,

00:35:26.980 I would say, stay away from models

00:35:29.020 because they're still being paid to show their

00:35:31.000 skin. Just find women who aren't being

00:35:33.020 paid. If you must beat it to

00:35:34.920 anything on the image and find

00:35:36.920 real women first. And

00:35:38.760 another thing I say, so what we're

00:35:40.940 going into like my dating strategy how do you date in a fallen world well because you can't

00:35:46.480 have virgins because they're just ridiculously short supply and the competition is super intense

00:35:50.900 and the odds of getting a virgin is like hitting the fucking lottery so when you're dating regular

00:35:57.320 women you know you can't say no sex before marriage because first of all let's start with

00:36:03.560 it first of all if you don't bang a girl before marriage she's not even going to consider marrying

00:36:08.680 you let alone you know respecting you okay like this idea that if i wait she'll love me more that's

00:36:15.080 just not even true that's a physical animal thing is right women are animals if you're not dominating

00:36:23.080 aggressive yeah if you're not dominating her the way a man is supposed to the way it's quite clearly

00:36:28.400 laid out in the bible then she's not marrying you she is going to be doing she is doing something

00:36:35.920 else she's either marrying your money or she is purchasing virtue by getting your wedding ring

00:36:42.940 she she's there to do it for somebody else whether it's her father or for mammon or for the priest

00:36:51.140 she's not marrying you right so i my my my okay i'm going to start with the conclusion and then

00:36:59.160 we're going to work backwards my conclusion as far as i can tell for everything i've learned

00:37:02.780 in red is that do not pursue a woman sexually unless you're seriously considering that she

00:37:08.680 could be your wife someday. It's as simple as that. Because now let's work backwards. Why?

00:37:16.400 First, everything you'd get judged on is based on your intentions, right? You can still

00:37:22.980 unintentionally sin, but they are not nearly as severe as an intentional sin. Unintentional

00:37:29.580 sins are much easier to be forgiven for. Intentionally sinning, like you rob your friend

00:37:36.360 or you deceive someone else, you create false witnesses or you steal some dude's wife. If

00:37:46.460 you do this on purpose, then God knows you're a dirty piece of shit. People always forget

00:37:53.240 the line, it's not what goes into your mouth that defiles the man, it's what comes out

00:37:57.360 of your mouth that a lot of people misunderstand the in the catholic church the mortal sin and

00:38:03.540 the venial sin this is essentially the distinction anything can be a mortal sin if you do it from

00:38:11.040 whole knowledge and whole willfulness if you're being yes disobedient because i don't care

00:38:17.560 as opposed to if you are being weak or you're being tempted or what have you that's the difference

00:38:23.380 Right. The hallmark of mortal sins, okay, of the Catholic Church. And I think that's just it. This is just obscuritism. I think it's a kind of a distinction without a difference. The hallmark of serious sins is you're not treating your neighbors as you would yourself.

00:38:45.100 right so when you take a man's wife hello you're screwing over some other man you're obviously a

00:38:53.440 shitty person if the wife cheats on her husband she's obviously a horrible human being if she

00:38:59.780 can't even trust the father of her children and respect him what chance is she ever going to show

00:39:05.540 just god why would god let that terrible person in heaven you see what i'm saying like if god

00:39:12.360 looks at how neighbors treat each other

00:39:14.500 to judge if you'll be worthy of being

00:39:16.380 eternal life with heaven. Because he gives

00:39:18.500 us his power. He gives us freedom of

00:39:20.420 will. So

00:39:22.240 he can see if he should give us

00:39:24.500 more power, which is

00:39:26.280 eternal life.

00:39:28.260 That's really Godhood. He's

00:39:30.000 offering us a chance to be a

00:39:32.380 God in a way, to achieve Godhood.

00:39:34.860 We're all trying to become the

00:39:36.400 sort of people that deserve to be

00:39:38.320 amongst civilized company.

00:39:40.760 Right. So

00:39:42.180 And that means you don't backstabbing your neighbors, but not everyone's your neighbor.

00:39:46.320 This is, and this, we could talk about this as far, this is, you know, the Catholic church.

00:39:50.220 You want to talk about, we can do this as a brief tangent.

00:39:53.800 I don't know if you want to do it right this second, but.

00:39:57.940 Go ahead.

00:39:59.020 The Catholic church, the Pope is like, oh, those migrants are, you know, the people we need to be welcoming and we need to love them and love others as we love ourselves.

00:40:09.680 Notice they always change the word neighbor into others.

00:40:12.180 Because the word neighbor has a very specific definition, according to Christ.

00:40:16.920 It's peace to men of goodwill.

00:40:20.180 There is a particular individual, unfortunately in my life, who has very bad will, bad intentions behind him.

00:40:27.860 He is not my neighbor, and I show no charity to him.

00:40:33.480 Yeah, I mean, you can still love your enemies, but Christ never says love your enemies as yourself.

00:40:37.940 He just says love them.

00:40:39.020 And, you know, that can be interpreted in a million ways.

00:40:41.800 like instead of you know torturing your enemies to death you mercifully kill them in one swift blow

00:40:47.400 right that could be no and that's the extreme is i can't be vengeful with this guy you know i can't

00:40:54.520 let my anger like some some some justice some wrath is necessary but overweening if it's protecting

00:41:02.680 your neighbors you're obligated to protect your neighbors just as you would protect yourself

00:41:08.040 Well, but no, hold on, the word neighbor has a specific context from the parable of the Good Samaritan.

00:41:14.340 We know from the parable, and I teach this to four-year-olds, I teach this to 10-year-olds, I teach this to 18-year-olds.

00:41:20.620 It's like no one understands the parable of the Good Samaritan, which is shocking, by the way, absolutely travesty.

00:41:27.400 It's absurd, it's sad, it's extremely shameful of our once great Christian culture, no longer remembers the main lesson.

00:41:35.540 And the parable of the Good Samaritan is, anyone can be your neighbor, but not everyone is your neighbor.

00:41:44.820 And Jesus specifically highlights this point by choosing a foreigner, a Samaritan,

00:41:51.380 while the high-ranking Pharisee and Sadducee, who are supposedly of your own kind, walk right by you when you're bleeding out on the road.

00:41:59.680 And by the way, how do you compare the parable of the Good Samaritan to the migrant crisis?

00:42:04.680 Who are the migrants? They're not the Samaritan. They're the robbers who steal you and let you

00:42:12.220 bleed out on the side of the road. That's not your neighbor either. So, of course, the Pope

00:42:17.600 is being a disingenuous, horrible, lying piece of shit, or he's just completely clueless, which I

00:42:25.320 can't rule it out because I don't know the guy. He's either incredibly evil or stupid. In either

00:42:30.300 case, he's not teaching the Bible

00:42:32.300 as Jesus instructed it.

00:42:34.320 He's not teaching Christ's actual

00:42:36.240 teachings. I think many

00:42:38.120 Catholics are coming to the conclusion that he is

00:42:40.220 as stupid as a serpent.

00:42:42.480 Right. No. Someone says, neighbor

00:42:44.140 is a person in my closest vicinity.

00:42:46.880 Late, great, on the jack.

00:42:48.180 This is another falsehood. Your neighbors are

00:42:50.220 not just people that are next to you.

00:42:52.760 Because we know this,

00:42:54.280 again, from the parable of the Good Samaritan,

00:42:56.220 who is a foreigner.

00:42:58.180 It's right at the beginning of the paranormal.

00:43:00.280 A certain foreigner, a Samaritan, was traveling through.

00:43:04.860 So the Samaritan is called your neighbor.

00:43:07.640 He is the conclusion at the end of the book, at the end of the parable.

00:43:10.900 Who is my neighbor?

00:43:12.460 Well, you know, let me provide a concrete example of this.

00:43:15.620 I had that roommate, the alcoholic, that spoke big words about being a Catholic

00:43:20.420 but would regularly steal, engage, and just any number of things.

00:43:25.000 Terrible human being.

00:43:25.900 And despite unfortunately sharing a house with that man, that man is not my neighbor.

00:43:31.420 Down the street, one of the people he despised, because of course this guy embraced the most childish form of racism.

00:43:39.180 Down the street from me is a man that works at a corner store.

00:43:41.900 He's of, I believe he's of East Indian descent.

00:43:44.720 But this man, he is a Christian.

00:43:46.360 He goes to church regularly.

00:43:49.120 And just as one example, the other day my bank card wasn't working.

00:43:52.860 so he said, don't worry, here are your cigarettes

00:43:54.800 just pay me next time you're in

00:43:56.120 that man's my neighbor

00:43:57.760 far more neighborly

00:44:01.380 yeah, right

00:44:02.740 because Jesus teaches that

00:44:04.940 labels are meaningless

00:44:05.800 a guy calls himself a Christian

00:44:08.300 calls himself a Catholic, calls himself orthodox

00:44:10.880 who gives a crap, that doesn't mean shit

00:44:13.280 your actions and

00:44:14.820 intentions and desires of your heart

00:44:16.820 are what count, God doesn't care what you

00:44:18.880 call yourself

00:44:19.560 that doesn't mean a thing, why would it

00:44:22.860 Right?

00:44:24.340 That's the core of being a Pharisee.

00:44:27.380 Exactly.

00:44:30.920 Exactly.

00:44:31.780 They were far more concerned with acts rather than design.

00:44:40.760 This goes back to me.

00:44:42.400 Related to all of this.

00:44:43.680 We're kind of talking about the misapplication.

00:44:46.780 The misemphasis.

00:44:48.820 The wrong locus of things.

00:44:50.740 is this emphasis on

00:44:52.880 charity being

00:44:54.700 a dollar a day to save a kid

00:44:56.860 in a country that you've never heard of.

00:44:59.200 Which, if you look at the practice

00:45:00.860 of this, it's very damaging for those countries.

00:45:03.220 That is not charity.

00:45:05.120 Giving a buck a day when you're as rich

00:45:06.920 as they are.

00:45:08.860 Hold on. Well, actually,

00:45:10.780 it's more complicated than that.

00:45:12.460 But I just want to, okay, so first,

00:45:14.280 we can conclude logically, okay?

00:45:18.000 I've got such a

00:45:18.940 big rep on the Rushive form because Samso has perfect logic. What we can conclude from the

00:45:24.860 parable of the Good Samaritan, right? We call them, there's a thing called your lowercase neighbor,

00:45:30.980 neighbor with a lowercase n. These are the people that live next to you. Then there's the Christian

00:45:36.800 neighbor, the uppercase neighbor, right? The uppercase n, neighbor with a capital N. These

00:45:42.120 people could be anyone, could be anywhere, could be from anywhere. They could be that dude in Africa.

00:45:48.720 You have no idea.

00:45:49.560 You don't know.

00:45:50.360 But that's just it.

00:45:51.660 Since you don't know, you could be sinning.

00:45:54.560 You could be giving it to a horrible human being.

00:45:56.800 You could be giving it to someone pretending to be that small child who uses that money without you knowing that it's not going to that child.

00:46:04.500 It's the pretense of charity.

00:46:07.200 It's a pretense of being charitable.

00:46:09.360 It's just the way – a lot of people are charitable just so they can show it off.

00:46:12.700 By the way, that's meaningless.

00:46:13.680 If you're just being charitable so you can show it off to people, God doesn't care.

00:46:17.620 That's meaningless.

00:46:18.720 He thinks less of you when you do that.

00:46:24.220 Everybody knows you're charitable.

00:46:25.520 Okay, there's your reward for charity.

00:46:27.500 You don't get the reward in heaven.

00:46:30.520 Right.

00:46:31.140 No, you give in secret.

00:46:32.860 Don't even let your right hand know what your left hand is doing kind of stuff.

00:46:37.640 So if you do know that guy in Africa, though, is in fact your neighbor, absolutely be charitable to him if you can afford it.

00:46:45.480 Charity, remember, charity, and this is what Apostle Paul explains,

00:46:49.220 it's a replacement for the old sacrifice.

00:46:51.540 When you charity, when you're giving to charity,

00:46:53.600 you're actually giving away your own livelihood for the benefit of your neighbor.

00:46:58.340 That's the kind of sacrifice God loves.

00:47:01.260 That's the kind of sacrifice that gives you honor in heaven.

00:47:05.340 It replaced the old Jewish customs of sacrifice,

00:47:09.260 which, you know, you cut the animal's throat on the altar

00:47:11.760 and in the temple of Jerusalem.

00:47:15.480 That was replaced with Jesus' death.

00:47:19.800 And God showed us what actual charity looks like.

00:47:23.320 Sacrifice for God is what the word charity means.

00:47:26.520 And God gave his own son.

00:47:29.140 Therefore, Paul concludes,

00:47:31.480 we must give part of our own life essence

00:47:34.180 for the benefit of our neighbors,

00:47:35.900 just as God gave his only begotten son.

00:47:39.560 For he was the ultimate sacrifice,

00:47:41.760 the ultimate act of charity, no one can even come close, but as we appropriate it in the name of

00:47:48.300 Christ, we may be forgiven, we may be redeemed, and we may be saved. This is probably as dense

00:47:59.600 as it gets. The parts on charity and understanding how charity works and how it all connects

00:48:04.720 That's theologically some of the most difficult parts of the Bible to read.

00:48:09.920 So being charitable to people who are your neighbors is obviously your highest priority.

00:48:16.680 But what about people who aren't your neighbors, right?

00:48:20.900 Is not Samaritan giving to a man he didn't know that was his neighbor?

00:48:25.300 Did he not give him the benefit of the doubt, right?

00:48:29.600 So we can still say you should still give the benefit of the doubt.

00:48:33.060 You should still be charitable to people you don't know, just as the Samaritan was, because the Samaritan was the good neighbor.

00:48:39.220 He was the paragon of morality.

00:48:42.300 But imagine if, imagine this, you saved the man, the man bleeding out on the side of the street.

00:48:48.640 And after he's healed, right, he says, thank you.

00:48:57.480 May I come to your house sometime and give you gifts?

00:49:04.960 And you say, well, you don't have to, but if you'd like to, I'd really appreciate that.

00:49:08.320 So you give him your address.

00:49:10.560 He comes later, a few weeks later, late at night, there's a fire lit outside on the base of your house.

00:49:17.880 There's a den of robbers.

00:49:19.160 They take everything you have and you see the guy you once saved, right?

00:49:25.540 Wouldn't this show you that sometimes your charity can be misgiven and it can be dangerous

00:49:31.860 and the charitable act is not necessarily an unqualified good?

00:49:37.380 And this is also another complex part of Christ's teachings.

00:49:40.700 Do not cast pearls before swine.

00:49:42.920 You have to be careful with those in need

00:49:44.880 Because the majority of those that say they are in need, if you give them a ladder to get onto your boat, they'll ignore it.

00:49:52.700 They keep saying, I need you to give me your hand.

00:49:55.620 But the moment you give them your hand, they pull you down into the water with them.

00:50:00.520 Yep.

00:50:01.880 You can't save everyone.

00:50:04.120 It's a fact.

00:50:05.520 Be like children, but wise as serpents.

00:50:07.740 at the same time there's there's actually intense debate within theological circles and have been

00:50:13.220 for thousands of years on the levels of charity that is appropriate and justified some priests

00:50:18.960 are like just give it all the way don't worry about it if you're giving it to swine it doesn't

00:50:23.760 matter you're doing god's work others will say well look if you give it to everyone you give it

00:50:30.280 to the undeserving then you're also hurting your neighbors because they could turn around with the

00:50:33.200 charity you give them and hurt your neighbors with it and you're casting pearls before swine

00:50:38.080 so no it's not you have to exercise some kind of judgment and then they're like but no jesus said

00:50:42.960 never judge there's those who say never judge never judge no matter what i believe that what

00:50:48.380 he said was when you judge judge righteously for you shall be judged as you judge others

00:50:53.900 well no no no he's speaking in hyperbole the way i interpret it okay there's again this is another

00:51:00.980 thing, the idea that there's like one interpretation that everyone agrees on in the Bible is ridiculous,

00:51:06.360 okay? At the end of the day, we all have to use our own judgment, and we all have to use

00:51:09.900 our own reason to see what the Bible means and how to best interpret it. We can agree

00:51:15.940 on a range of interpretations. There's definitely a cutoff point of what is false and what is

00:51:20.860 not true, and we can agree on, like, you know, we can say judgment as a whole is bad, and

00:51:30.980 but how can you be righteous if you never judge god calls on us to be righteous christ says we

00:51:38.760 need to be righteous christ tells us your neighbor how do i know who my neighbor is if i'm not judging

00:51:45.200 who's neighborly or not christ contradicts himself if we interpret take him literally

00:51:50.880 that's my interpretation anyways he contradicts himself if we never judge whatsoever and then

00:51:55.760 you'll get other guys who get into the nomenclature they'll say oh well christ's not telling us

00:52:00.940 to judge, he's just telling us to discriminate. If we're not judging, we're just discriminating

00:52:06.540 our neighbors. We're not condemning, we're just separating, right? And I'm like, you know what,

00:52:11.480 I don't think that that's a distinction without a difference. It's just judgment. Christ wasn't...

00:52:16.120 Quite frankly, many heresies arise from people trying to take the literal words of Christ.

00:52:22.880 Christ is pointing towards God with his words. He's pointing towards that, the ineffable,

00:52:28.120 that that thing that is within us we need to use our reason and our judgment within ourselves

00:52:35.440 and if you try and take it literally if you try and boil it down to a merely a simplified easy

00:52:42.600 to understand instruction manual which it certainly isn't it's far more than just really

00:52:47.700 good instructions there's far more to it than that everything try and boil it so many contextual

00:52:51.800 yeah you try and take any like communism is a basic heresy of charity you know it's like oh

00:52:59.240 well you give it to your neighbor well then we'll just put everything together and eliminate all

00:53:03.200 private property there we go one look at that oh they'll say who are you who are you to judge who

00:53:08.300 your neighbors are or not you know therefore everyone's your neighbor for you okay

00:53:16.960 I want to get back to the, I don't know if you read Anne Barnhart, but she is an extremely

00:53:26.780 vocal critic of the effeminacy in the church, Anne Barnhart, she's a bit of a firebrand,

00:53:35.000 I think you might enjoy her work, now she is a big critic of effeminacy, and one of

00:53:42.480 issues I see with the standard teachings on sexual morality is that the easiest

00:53:48.060 way to be sexually moral is to be a feminine which is a major major problem

00:53:54.240 you're not supposed to be a feminine as a man yeah and you know we could there's

00:54:01.260 there's a few things in the Bible that are classically interpreted as being

00:54:04.920 directed at one gender over the other for example sodomy right it was never I

00:54:11.100 I asked my priest, I'm like, has it ever been interpreted that sodomy meant, you know, sodomy with women?

00:54:15.700 For a man to have sodomy with his wife, right?

00:54:19.320 Anal sex with his wife.

00:54:20.220 Is that a sin?

00:54:21.160 I said, like, no.

00:54:22.380 He said, no, that's not what they're talking about.

00:54:24.160 They always, when you refer to sodomy, they always mean homosexual behavior.

00:54:28.880 That's how it's always been.

00:54:30.240 That's what he told me in the Orthodox Church.

00:54:32.740 It's always been interpreted that way.

00:54:35.040 So when you hear sodomy, it's really just talking about a male sin.

00:54:38.740 On the other, and it's the same thing with effeminacy.

00:54:41.100 What does it mean for a woman to be effeminate?

00:54:43.400 Like, that doesn't make any sense, right?

00:54:44.800 Again, this has always been interpreted to be males not acting with strength, courage, and conviction.

00:54:52.360 We're supposed to look at the examples of the apostles who were the manly as it gets.

00:54:58.320 They went all the way to the grave for their beliefs.

00:55:00.500 They were tortured horribly.

00:55:01.720 They never renounced Christ.

00:55:04.740 That's the ideal of being masculine.

00:55:08.520 It's not just being, you know, jacked, ripped, dude.

00:55:10.860 It means standing up for what is righteous, even if it causes you to become a martyr.

00:55:18.960 Well, we have this dichotomy today where you can be this powerful, aggressive alpha male that gets his way all the time, but he's not moral.

00:55:28.980 Whereas the moral man is a simp who never makes any waves, who doesn't cause any trouble whatsoever, and just goes along to get along.

00:55:36.960 when those are again these are the two extremes and virtue is the mean between them it is the

00:55:42.060 golden mean where you are capable of great acts right i would say that um i would be i would

00:55:49.760 disagree that the man who is silent is being moral i'm not sure that's true i completely this is my

00:55:57.000 point that the often what we call morality is simply not making any waves well sometimes you

00:56:04.620 a coward. Yeah, exactly.

00:56:07.060 Being a coward, being weak, being

00:56:09.000 what have you, being effeminate.

00:56:11.460 If Jesus never spoke

00:56:12.960 up, nothing

00:56:14.840 would have ever happened.

00:56:16.760 Is he not the ultimate example?

00:56:19.740 Quite frankly, look at what he

00:56:20.880 was suffering when he was carrying that cross.

00:56:23.260 He wasn't some effete

00:56:24.620 intellectual.

00:56:26.400 He was a manly carpenter. The guy was

00:56:28.780 a bit of a badass, quite frankly.

00:56:31.060 In a way, though, no, Jesus was

00:56:32.680 extremely intelligent, and one of the things

00:56:34.640 you, if you read the Bible

00:56:36.380 carefully, you'll see that all

00:56:38.660 of his teachings are totally logically consistent.

00:56:41.040 They all, everything is

00:56:42.600 consistent with the two great commandments, love

00:56:44.500 God with all your

00:56:46.640 heart, strength, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself.

00:56:49.000 Like, everything, and then the definition

00:56:50.600 of the neighbor, that everything is in the

00:56:52.660 Bible can be traced back to that.

00:56:55.440 And that's one of the, but he

00:56:56.640 wasn't merely an intellectual.

00:56:58.640 He didn't know, because he needed

00:57:00.680 to speak to the layman.

00:57:02.680 So, St. Paul is the guy for the philosophers and the intellectuals and the theologians.

00:57:11.440 St. Paul was to give instruction to the church.

00:57:14.260 But Jesus was for the common man.

00:57:16.860 Jesus gave language that was plain, simple, and clear, and timeless.

00:57:21.300 And yet, deep, for the people who are intelligent, Jesus' teachings are extremely profound, extraordinarily complex.

00:57:35.300 So, Jesus, as I've grown older, and as I've read a tremendous amount of literature, I realize when I read it, it's at once extremely simple, and at once extremely difficult and complex.

00:57:47.480 but that's the beauty you don't need to understand the complex parts to get to

00:57:52.200 have it you know it doesn't matter actually at all Jesus was preaching to

00:57:58.040 the dumb the deaf the illiterate the sick the lame the blind you think these

00:58:03.740 guys are well actually a break that's the beauty of Christianity is that even

00:58:11.700 if you are unfortunately a part-time theologian like yourself and myself

00:58:15.920 there's stuff for you there you can dig into this theology but you don't need

00:58:20.540 to it really does have that that that universal applicability yeah the the

00:58:28.680 point as far as I guess exactly the universalness of it is important but I

00:58:34.180 think that the the complex parts are necessary for the church and it's

00:58:41.960 necessary for a church to exist to give guidance. Otherwise Christ would have

00:58:46.580 never created one. So the corruption of the church, which is the topic of this

00:58:51.620 podcast or YouTube cast, whatever you call this, is very, very relevant. Today's

00:59:00.140 church is not helpful. People stay with Christ. Let's just be honest. It's

00:59:08.460 hemorrhaging members it's falling apart all churches some are faring a bit

00:59:15.720 better than others but you know there it's not doing well at all and some

00:59:20.400 people will say oh well it's just a culling process you know Jesus I think

00:59:24.660 it's the opposite I worry it's the opposite it's hemorrhaging the best

00:59:28.560 members and right worst sometimes yeah you're jumping you're jumping to my

00:59:35.880 conclusion i'll tell you i have a lot i would the church in my neighborhood which i'm about to move

00:59:43.280 from uh was very very novus ordo and i have a it is very difficult for me to go to a novus ordo

00:59:50.900 church there's just so much ugliness inherent in the in everything with it they're so judgmental

00:59:58.200 a lot of uh hardcore church types like you're not good enough unless you follow all these little

01:00:03.140 commands they're basically Pharisees and that's the irony I will say about the

01:00:09.740 Novus Ordo is that on the one hand there's all these loopholes that are

01:00:13.160 allowing all of these toxic tradition or they're over overwhelming the traditions

01:00:19.140 and introducing these little bits of toxicity and they're very non

01:00:22.860 judgmental while at the same time being extremely judgmental whereas with the

01:00:27.940 traditionalist churches uh yes it is very traditionalist and so it's very anti-modern

01:00:34.240 and yet it's far more welcoming at the exact same time instead of judgment you get empathy

01:00:40.820 at the traditional yeah and honestly empathy is far more of a christian virtue than judgment

01:00:46.040 but actually it's similar to how a weak man whether he be the ruler of a country or a father

01:00:53.860 will be a tyrant whereas a strong man a strong leader is going to be very nurturing and and

01:01:01.320 gentle with those because of his strength yeah the point right exactly a strong man will break

01:01:08.480 people's will so he can point them in the right direction he doesn't just do it to be on top all

01:01:13.920 the time it's a very fine line to be a good patriarch and you can't just write it down in

01:01:22.180 words it's you know it when you see it you can write down all the words you want but and does

01:01:28.160 that not require good judgment like again the idea that you should never judge doesn't make

01:01:33.460 sense to me and i've read that whole i've seen a lot of monks say never criticize never judge

01:01:38.780 never say anyone's a sinner because it's it risks hypocrisy but i think they're going too far

01:01:44.820 it doesn't make sense to me it doesn't jive with what i read in the bible and it doesn't jive with

01:01:50.620 how people live their lives, and I also just think, like, if God is this merciful guy,

01:01:56.720 then why the hell would he be throwing all these people in hell for sins which are, like,

01:02:04.460 incredibly small? Okay, so you think this guy drinks too much, and now you're going to hell

01:02:08.140 because you think he's a drunkard? Are you serious? That doesn't even, that sounds so

01:02:11.840 punishing. It completely, well, isn't this the same Jesus who forgave whores and tax collectors,

01:02:17.460 right and you know there's something people don't know what tax collectors tax collectors

01:02:21.320 were like some of the worst people on the planet yeah they weren't like modern day tax collectors

01:02:25.980 you actually bid to be a tax collector you would bid on a position because you got to make a ton

01:02:32.100 of money doing the tax collecting oh yeah in tech look as long look at tax collectors they were

01:02:38.040 assigned a certain amount of money to collect if they got more or less well the romans didn't care

01:02:44.640 or new they didn't ask and they were given some troops and legions of soldiers to enforce their

01:02:50.700 tax collecting and uh you've had unlimited authority to get that money basically so you'd

01:02:58.740 have guys would beat intimidate rob commit arson and if you couldn't pay your taxes in those days

01:03:06.240 well then there was only one punishment you became a slave a debt slave if you couldn't pay your

01:03:13.380 debts you had to sell your children or yourself into slavery so a loose analogy for the modern

01:03:21.020 day might be a lobbyist who writes public policy but isn't responsible for it and makes a big

01:03:26.780 profit while doing so yeah but i think tax collectors were way worse they had basically

01:03:32.540 unlimited authority and yet even christ could forgive those people if they saw the error of

01:03:37.900 their ways so the idea that you know some of these monks with these purity spirals i think they're

01:03:42.740 admirable but they're not literally correct

01:03:45.860 they're not literally correct city and in the fact that people today

01:03:51.500 get hung up on words and sentences in

01:03:55.240 focusing on and the letter of law versus the spirit of the law

01:04:00.060 is precisely why the church is hemp is dying

01:04:02.860 is because dual climate

01:04:06.320 and conflicts with the quote-unquote letter of the law which is to save

01:04:11.140 yourselves for marriage, right? The save yourself for marriage thing only existed in a time when

01:04:18.360 there was a patriarchy. There was no way really to have sex with a woman if that father didn't

01:04:27.760 allow it. If the woman was a whore, she probably came from a broken ass family without a father

01:04:33.840 or she ran away so getting you know just having like a casual relationship those do that less

01:04:41.300 than one percent unless you were in the top aristocracy where they actually had those kinds

01:04:46.480 of relationships the vast majority of men never ever got to experiencing anything of the sort

01:04:52.200 and so that's why number one saint paul didn't even have to explain something like that because

01:04:56.640 there was no i bet you never even occurred to him it was completely outside the bounds of thought

01:05:03.680 So when I say don't pursue a woman unless you think there's a chance for a long-term relationship,

01:05:11.680 I think that's basically making the best of a bad situation.

01:05:15.380 And I talked about World War I at the beginning of this videocast, World War II.

01:05:20.740 In a war, right, like that, I mean let's be real.

01:05:24.800 You're sinning, okay?

01:05:25.880 You're killing, you're murdering people.

01:05:27.580 This isn't good.

01:05:28.480 It's not good for your soul.

01:05:29.620 It's not good for anyone there.

01:05:30.820 the pretenses for killing people

01:05:33.300 so that some political rulers can have more power

01:05:35.280 is ridiculous

01:05:36.300 you are most likely murdering

01:05:39.700 your neighbors like the Germans and the French

01:05:41.720 shooting each other in World War I

01:05:42.740 played soccer with each other one night

01:05:44.340 it's ridiculous

01:05:45.300 they were forced to kill each other

01:05:47.120 and if they didn't they could go to jail

01:05:48.680 the political systems had become totally toxic

01:05:51.360 it was nationality from hell

01:05:53.400 nationalism from hell

01:05:54.720 and yet

01:05:57.480 nationalism as a justification for hatred hatred of the hun hatred of whomever but like look at

01:06:05.740 those old popeye cartoons where he's just murdering all the japs you know because they're japs they're

01:06:10.100 not real people yeah right they always do that in wartime they always other eyes the your enemy

01:06:16.180 but it's it's also which by the way by the way when you dehumanize the enemy the soldiers that

01:06:23.360 come back from that are extremely

01:06:25.520 extremely traumatized

01:06:27.500 because guess what, your enemy

01:06:29.200 is a human being

01:06:30.100 you don't know who you're killing, you're most likely

01:06:33.060 killing innocent people and that

01:06:34.920 seriously is toxic for your soul

01:06:37.220 and that's what

01:06:38.600 PTSD is, a large

01:06:41.040 element of it is

01:06:42.260 spiritual

01:06:43.020 spiritual disease 100%

01:06:46.840 you've killed people for no reason

01:06:49.180 but

01:06:50.980 fundamentally

01:06:52.000 it's unintentional. You're lied to. A lot of these guys are lied to.

01:06:58.760 They're lied to about the nature of the world. They're lied to for the reasons why they're

01:07:03.340 killing others. And they're lied to about who's their enemy and who's their neighbor.

01:07:09.020 And that's why I firmly believe God has tremendous mercy for those men stuck in

01:07:12.760 these hellish environments. Likewise, for the women of today who are in their own World War I,

01:07:20.380 throwing away their virginity for no fucking reason they have absolutely uh no clue what

01:07:28.660 they're doing to themselves and how badly they're messing themselves up they can feel it but they

01:07:33.980 can't explain it in a way the women today are very very much a victim of circumstance and the

01:07:41.760 men are as well and rather than being in a war of men against men it's it's a war between men and

01:07:47.820 women trapped in this like uh and that they are all a battlefield fighting the wrong people

01:07:57.180 yeah they fight each other instead of this be the irony forgiveness the irony that i brought up uh

01:08:05.140 toward the beginning of this the the woman gets she voluntarily gives herself to alpha males

01:08:10.840 and then she feels the pain of that but then she goes and blames the beta males and the you have

01:08:18.480 the male feminist allies that are there they're trying to attack the alpha males not realizing

01:08:25.180 that it's their own beta male nature that is the problem that they're not stepping up to be

01:08:30.660 yeah women have have no ability to see the big picture they i've never seen a woman who can see

01:08:37.240 the big the forest they they see trees they might see a grouping of trees they i've never seen women

01:08:43.360 who see the forest that's why there are no women philosophers they're terrible at it and that's

01:08:47.940 probably why jesus in saint paul made sure that men were at the top of the church because in order

01:08:53.100 to lead the flock you need a shepherd who can see all the members and how they interact and how all

01:08:58.360 the pieces fit together and very few men can see the big can see the forest too it's already

01:09:04.560 difficult enough probably like less than five percent of men can see a good big picture view

01:09:09.100 but when it comes to women it's like less than 0.05 it's such a small paltry number women are

01:09:17.560 horrible at it so there's no point in listening to them other than to hear what they say as a

01:09:22.960 feeling listen to them as feelings being expressed not as uh actual logical statements because it

01:09:29.100 it fails every time so with with a with with with sex today right there's another part of this

01:09:37.520 because we all and we know this the churches are far harsher on the men than they are the women

01:09:43.980 women we still have this like culture of you know women being these pure little angel snowflakes

01:09:51.360 who must be protected so just because they're fucking and sucking and doing all these horrible

01:09:56.700 things no one's allowed to criticize them or say anything it's ridiculous right but if a man says

01:10:02.740 you know i can't get married because the women today are horrible oh here's part of the issue

01:10:08.820 part of the issue is that you can sit down and explain to a guy logically why you need to do

01:10:15.660 x y and z uh with women women being of the nature that they are it's not you can't sit down like a

01:10:23.660 schoolmarm and say, here are the rules in the book. What you need to do is lead them. You need

01:10:30.820 to be a B-Rile man. And if you're an effeminate man, you can't tell. First of all, they're not

01:10:37.400 going to listen to you. And second of all, you are going to fall for their victim routine.

01:10:41.960 yeah that's that's a big part of it uh i think you know look the original idea of uh

01:10:54.340 venerating women comes from venerating the virgin mary who incidentally was a virgin

01:11:00.960 today we venerate women who aren't virgins what's that all about well and they also weren't

01:11:08.820 conceived immaculately

01:11:10.420 like the Virgin Mary.

01:11:12.740 But the only way women can even

01:11:15.020 be close to having any sort of honor

01:11:17.020 in their church, the only women who should have

01:11:18.980 that sort of honor

01:11:20.460 are faithfully married women

01:11:22.840 and young virgins.

01:11:26.020 That's it.

01:11:27.500 Or nuns, committed virgins,

01:11:29.360 right? Those are the women who

01:11:30.880 have earned the veneration.

01:11:33.240 Giving chivalry or

01:11:35.120 some like

01:11:37.840 honor to women who are single moms

01:11:48.000 or have divorced

01:11:49.820 or go through boyfriend after boyfriend after boyfriend.

01:11:52.980 I mean, that is ridiculous.

01:11:54.120 And yet, they don't want to chase the women out of the church.

01:11:58.520 The solution to the single moms

01:12:00.360 is not to lecture them on everything they've done wrong.

01:12:04.680 The solution is that you need more virile men in the church to set a standard.

01:12:11.100 When women are surrounded by virile, authoritative men, they will begin naturally gravitating towards positive behavior.

01:12:19.520 When they're surrounded by weak men, that's when you get the...

01:12:23.440 Strong men get chased out of the churches nowadays.

01:12:26.460 If you're a strong man who stands up against what's wrong, well, you can get ostracized very quickly.

01:12:32.000 and because of this evil inside of the modern churches that's it's another huge reason why

01:12:38.060 it's dying if you're seen as judgmental man don't be judgmental don't say bad things man

01:12:43.620 that and the priests themselves are selected on their ability to manage these women it's almost

01:12:48.760 like the churches have stopped becoming a place for men to worship god and have become a place

01:12:53.360 for priests to become alpha males and hoard over these slutty women into their churches

01:12:57.840 so they'd probably tap them on the side

01:13:00.360 anyways I don't believe

01:13:01.920 it's more of a

01:13:05.900 gamma male you know running a

01:13:08.280 harem of prostitutes than

01:13:10.060 an actual alpha male

01:13:11.160 some priests are alphas but you're right

01:13:14.040 I think you're closer to the truth with the gamma male

01:13:16.340 explanation I've known some alpha

01:13:18.160 priests but we're just talking about

01:13:19.920 I guarantee you in every

01:13:22.240 church there's some alpha males in the scenes

01:13:24.100 pulling the strings banging the women on the

01:13:26.260 sly pushing out other alpha males and twisting the word of the church for their own heads

01:13:31.620 1000 and every church in america is like that well i like a brief aside i like to point towards the

01:13:39.140 there's the the psychopathic alpha there's the traveling salesman that says i'm in love with you

01:13:44.880 and then runs off after he gets the farmer's daughter pregnant uh that's not the same thing

01:13:49.420 as the the alpha that we're talking about the leader of men the responsible sociopathic these

01:13:55.420 This is a sociopathic alpha versus a psychopathic.

01:13:58.800 The psychopathic is the salesman.

01:14:00.440 The sociopathic one is the one who sits inside of an organization backstabbing, betraying, and shit-talking so that they can stay on top of others and get rid of the competition.

01:14:12.360 They're certainly in control, but they're not alpha by any useful definition.

01:14:18.300 Right.

01:14:18.660 They're not like – they're not good alphas.

01:14:22.480 They're alpha in the sense that they can get pussy.

01:14:24.380 They're not alpha in the sense that they're leaders of men.

01:14:26.920 They're not alpha in the sense that they stand for what's right.

01:14:29.600 They're not alpha in the sense that they could approach women cold, cold approach.

01:14:35.200 They have to run their little stupid social circle game.

01:14:38.300 But yeah, anyways, so, you know, what can we as individuals do about this, especially with this ongoing problem in all of the churches?

01:14:51.360 It's a great question.

01:14:52.640 It's the great question of our time, but I think we're already working towards a solution because we have the Internet now.

01:15:00.660 I think the Internet allows members of the flock to find each other, allows our neighbors to find each other, no matter where we are, no matter what's going on.

01:15:10.300 And in a way, I think that God gave us the Internet to help us through these difficult times,

01:15:15.040 to help overcome the sins of technology

01:15:17.460 by letting the righteous find one another

01:15:20.160 and develop a new strategy for this time.

01:15:24.300 I think personally we need a new church sometimes.

01:15:27.540 I really think that might be the answer.

01:15:29.320 Have like an internet church.

01:15:32.060 The congregation logs on Sunday morning,

01:15:35.320 rolls out of bed, and listens to a pastor.

01:15:39.020 And we can talk to each other.

01:15:40.280 It might be time for a whole new different approach.

01:15:43.080 especially if the churches can't straighten their act out.

01:15:46.940 Like the Orthodox Church, I'm reading a Sunday school book,

01:15:52.300 and the parts on marriage and sexuality, it reads like it was written by a woman.

01:15:57.140 It's so ridiculous, some of it.

01:16:00.400 You know, I've said this before, but it's worth saying again.

01:16:04.900 All of the churches have problems, and I forgot who posted this,

01:16:09.060 but they said the funny thing is that the Catholics and the Protestants

01:16:13.200 accuse one another of their own greatest hypocrisies.

01:16:16.140 The Catholics accuse the Protestants of being okay with divorce,

01:16:19.320 and yet the Catholic annulment rate is nearly as high

01:16:22.580 as the divorce rate amongst Protestants.

01:16:24.900 The Protestants accuse the Catholics of...

01:16:26.960 Do you think God cares if you want divorce or annulment?

01:16:29.220 Do you think he's full?

01:16:30.080 Do you think he's that stupid?

01:16:32.440 The dude's all known.

01:16:33.660 Exactly.

01:16:34.720 The Protestants accuse Catholics of venerating idols,

01:16:38.280 And Protestants are very prone to taking the latest hypocritical big preacher

01:16:44.400 and treating him like he's the second coming of Christ.

01:16:47.720 And all of the stone flinging, all of the attacks on one another

01:16:52.700 is extremely unproductive when we all have problems

01:16:56.100 that we need to be dealing with in our own houses.

01:16:58.220 I think the Orthodox suffer from ritualism.

01:17:02.360 They're so focused on rituals at the top

01:17:06.520 that they ignore the needs of the people at the bottom,

01:17:09.080 and so they leave the church.

01:17:11.060 I think that's a big problem in the Orthodox Church.

01:17:15.980 As much as I like many of the rituals,

01:17:18.580 they're still, you know, they're for show.

01:17:21.140 They're not really helping people.

01:17:23.340 That's another thing.

01:17:24.280 See, church used to be a place

01:17:28.060 where people would go all throughout the week

01:17:29.700 to discuss their problems,

01:17:32.220 participate with their community.

01:17:34.140 It was the locus of community life.

01:17:36.520 nowadays church is just a place you show up on Sunday well and how many priests

01:17:42.160 are just completely happy with that you know how many of them are just happy

01:17:46.400 with like okay okay I've done it now I get my my whatever and now get out of my

01:17:51.340 face I don't want to deal with any of you people just read the Bible read your

01:17:54.940 catechism or yeah they it's like a teacher who shows up for work once a

01:18:01.640 weak, or they, you know, some priests are very committed, and they go do services every

01:18:09.040 day, every other day, they're willing to talk to anyone, they spend a lot of time with their

01:18:13.920 parishioners, there's still plenty of good priests out there, but ultimately, people

01:18:20.220 don't take their priests seriously, they don't take the church seriously, and they don't

01:18:23.940 take God seriously, faith is weak as hell nowadays, and that's, especially in Europe

01:18:28.720 up where it's dead. I actually went to the Notre Dame once on a Sunday about in 2008.

01:18:37.420 It was, I swear to God, man, in this place, this church could hold 20,000 and yet it was

01:18:43.540 like as big as a church that could hold 200. It was less than 200 people in there on a

01:18:50.020 Sunday in the middle of Paris. I mean, I was like, okay, this place is fucked. That's

01:18:54.980 I remember thinking to myself, and it was a beautiful ceremony and Latin and everything, and yet no one cared, no one showed up.

01:19:03.480 And now you see, of course, you know, children getting raped by the masses, and no one gives a damn.

01:19:08.320 It's like, yeah, okay, we've entered Satan's world now.

01:19:11.700 This is what happens when people stop caring about their neighbors.

01:19:15.280 Not my child getting raped.

01:19:16.800 That's just a statistic.

01:19:18.860 Whenever you hear that, by the way, oh, that's just a freak incident.

01:19:22.260 That's just a statistic.

01:19:23.920 That's like the opposite of Christianity.

01:19:26.540 That's the opposite of saving the lamb who gets separated from the flock.

01:19:30.360 That's the opposite of loving your neighbor.

01:19:32.200 That will lead straight to hell.

01:19:36.100 Not just in this world, but in the next one, right?

01:19:39.380 And yet that's precisely what we see.

01:19:41.260 Why doesn't the Pope talk about all the victims of the migrants?

01:19:44.820 Pope doesn't give a fuck about his neighbors.

01:19:47.680 The Pope is a travesty.

01:19:49.620 But we Orthodox have known that forever.

01:19:51.260 Anytime you have centralized power like that, it's going to be a disaster.

01:19:55.060 An infallible pope was ridiculous.

01:19:58.000 Well, every institution is going to be corrupt.

01:20:01.960 This latest pope really does take the cake, though.

01:20:04.500 We're used to having bad popes because the very first pope, you know.

01:20:09.020 There shouldn't be a pope.

01:20:12.700 I'm not getting into that theological debate, but even by the Catholics, the very first pope was corrupt.

01:20:18.780 They all have been, because they were all men.

01:20:22.460 And so that's one thing, but it's going to whole new levels.

01:20:26.440 Although I will say there was a positive development where a number of priests and some lay theologians published a document calling out Francis on a great deal of the openings towards heresy that were present in his Amoris Laetitiae.

01:20:46.900 right which is nice but fundamentally calling out the corruption of the pope doesn't fix the

01:20:53.580 problem the problem is you have a pope the pope caused the protestant reformation in the first

01:20:58.580 place because the pope was corrupt 500 years ago the pope is corrupt today at least in the

01:21:05.900 orthodox church we've got hierarchy which is important but no one's infallible no one's

01:21:12.760 teachings takes precedence over another uh we treat people as authorities but not as kings

01:21:19.640 it's a huge difference it's why we don't have the same levels of scandals and corruption

01:21:24.240 most of the orthodox loss of membership doesn't come from aposty it comes from persecution

01:21:30.160 the communists murdered millions of orthodox the turks did the muslims did you know the orthodox

01:21:40.240 loss of membership has come from the sword not from people thinking they know better

01:21:45.940 well the the issue with the catholic church is that the hierarchy has been

01:21:51.140 captured by that's why you shouldn't have one

01:21:55.300 at the end of the day though as individuals all we can all we can do is to continue to state the

01:22:05.040 truth even when it's not popular and to be that virile force for good to be to live in such a way

01:22:12.540 that we become authorities in ourselves yeah it's very important speaking see words

01:22:18.860 have the power of god in them in the beginning was the word all words

01:22:25.900 can change the world because words control people's thoughts and a platform like the

01:22:34.280 internet, where words can be multiplied by unbelievable multitudes our ancestors could

01:22:42.220 only have dreamed of. I think the solution is staring us right in the face. This technology

01:22:47.660 is insane. The problem, of course, is getting people's attention in a sea of endless distractions.

01:22:54.940 But I think eventually, right, we've got to remember there's always something working for Christians.

01:23:05.660 And that is as the worst shit gets, the more people will be ready to hear the message of Christ when the time comes.

01:23:14.840 The more the middle gets eaten up by either side, the more you realize that you can't be neutral.

01:23:23.980 when it's a choice between truth and falsehood.

01:23:26.180 There is no middle position between truth and lies.

01:23:30.260 Yes, absolutely.

01:23:32.000 The advantage of Christianity is that it's true.

01:23:35.780 It may not be fun and exciting, but it is fundamentally true.

01:23:41.660 And falsehood leads to death and sin.

01:23:44.500 So as more and more and more people just fade away, waste away,

01:23:49.400 people destroyed by our horrible dating market, sexual market,

01:23:53.700 destroyed by wars, destroyed by money, destroyed by usury, whatever.

01:24:00.940 People always hit that point, that breaking point,

01:24:04.520 which is how Christianity also started in the Roman Empire,

01:24:07.640 because the average guy, the salt of the earth, was just shit out of luck

01:24:11.560 and had nowhere to turn to except these men promising them salvation

01:24:15.700 if they would only listen.

01:24:18.420 The lies are being exposed.

01:24:19.420 the Elijah post one by one yeah of course at some point it's up to every individual

01:24:27.940 to decide am I going to keep following this lie or is it about time that I admitted it is a lie

01:24:34.480 and this path I'm on is the wrong path and to turn around and start marching right and I think like

01:24:40.440 what if there's a modern church today needs to recognize our sexual climate is completely broken

01:24:47.120 And it also needs to recognize that there should be different rules, not rules, but different guidelines for men versus women.

01:24:54.540 A woman, she should save her virginity, but if she doesn't, she should realize she has no obligation to ask anything from any man if she gives her virginity away, less than she's become a whore.

01:25:05.780 And for men, they should be told to pursue virgins, but if they can't find one, then they are forced to grind through the dating game, and that they should never ever wife up a woman who refuses to not submit to them before marriage.

01:25:18.940 And of course, a woman can't submit unless she gives her body up.

01:25:23.480 We have to tell the men, don't just pursue women for conquest's sake.

01:25:28.520 They're not just sexual objects. They are your neighbors, and you must pursue them as a neighbor and as a woman. It's a complicated process, and it's totally messy. It's not an easy process, but we don't have a choice because women have been deceived into throwing away their virginity, which is why, like I said, I compared this time to like a World War I, World War II, where you have all these innocent men murdering each other for no freaking reason.

01:25:56.620 Likewise, you have all these women who have debauched themselves for literally no reason, like 98% of the women out there.

01:26:03.420 So now you have to figure out a way through this.

01:26:06.120 No different than how could a good Christian man figure out a way through World War I or World War II, knowing that he's shooting on innocent men.

01:26:16.760 Well, and the solution isn't the inverse to be a coward and remain behind.

01:26:23.180 Right?

01:26:23.700 Well, isn't it better to go to prison rather than shoot at your neighbor?

01:26:28.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:26:28.540 Some people would say yes.

01:26:30.020 Somebody that goes to prison isn't a coward.

01:26:32.740 Right.

01:26:33.160 But I'm just saying, you know, in today's climate, it would be like becoming a monk and dropping out of the sexual marketplace all together.

01:26:40.880 Just say the fucking hell with it.

01:26:44.260 Right?

01:26:44.640 That's always a legit option in my mind.

01:26:47.180 But how many of us can realistically do that?

01:26:49.840 Who would be willing to go to prison back in the World War I, World War II days?

01:26:53.700 right you're still going to serve your country you don't want to go to prison you'd still like

01:26:58.420 to have a family we're still humans not all of us are strong enough to do that and for this reason

01:27:04.380 you have to pray for the good mercy of God the good grace of God to help us through our trials

01:27:11.200 and tribulations and just and and and I can we can easily tie this back to the apostle Paul

01:27:18.720 who justified slavery.

01:27:21.520 He said, hey, slaves, love your masters,

01:27:23.480 and masters love your slaves.

01:27:26.180 Well, I shouldn't say justified.

01:27:27.820 He didn't justify, but he at least...

01:27:31.740 Acknowledged.

01:27:33.060 He acknowledged...

01:27:33.760 He wasn't an iconoclast that wanted to rip society apart.

01:27:38.140 He was trying to tell society how to become better.

01:27:41.060 He was practical, is what I'm trying to say.

01:27:43.020 He acknowledged that...

01:27:44.540 He didn't say slavery was this great thing,

01:27:47.080 But he's like, look, this is what we have, and we've got to give unto God what is God, and Caesar what is Caesar's.

01:27:54.100 Well, and to close this out, to boil it down to what you were saying, the practical advice to some of the women, is it fair to say, guys, go out there and pursue women that you could potentially see as wives?

01:28:12.340 Right.

01:28:13.260 She's attractive is the first step.

01:28:15.780 Then you talk to her.

01:28:17.080 she's intelligent she's not you know a drug addict she's she's got her shit together

01:28:21.820 take her out on a date try kissing her she's submissive you don't have to bang on the first

01:28:30.000 date probably you know which is fucked up but like there's there's a lot of girls out there

01:28:34.640 who won't be in a relationship with you if you don't bang them on the first date you're probably

01:28:38.260 better off without those girls yeah that's actually a great uh screening mechanism quite frankly if

01:28:44.340 If she doesn't call you back because you didn't bang her, well, good.

01:28:47.940 She is not looking, despite her – what she says, despite the outfit she's put on.

01:28:54.140 She's not actually looking to be a submissive wife.

01:28:56.720 She's just looking for the beat.

01:28:58.660 You definitely want to bang within dates, I think.

01:29:01.740 I don't know.

01:29:03.660 I wish I could give like a guideline, but I've seen things.

01:29:07.440 I've heard things that – there's real no rules.

01:29:10.240 I've heard of relationships blossoming out of the first date sex.

01:29:13.420 Because I've heard of relationships taking until date 10.

01:29:16.880 You know, it's like, I don't think you should worry too much.

01:29:20.320 But you should be pushing for sex after date one, basically.

01:29:26.180 I think within the first two dates, you should still be, even on the first date, you should always push for that kiss.

01:29:32.340 And if she won't give you that, she's just not interested.

01:29:35.400 And it's like, these are, it almost sounds deboshed that we have to talk like this.

01:29:39.220 But these are simple realities, the nature of woman, which you will never find in a Sunday school textbook.

01:29:45.240 You will never find being preached in the sermons.

01:29:50.840 And because the church is so disconnected from modern life, people don't see a point to it.

01:29:55.960 I will add one caution.

01:29:58.500 The caution is that because sex is this naturally bonding experience,

01:30:03.500 If you jump into it too quickly, you will wind up overlooking all sorts of flaws and all sorts of warning bells and all of this because you had sex with the person.

01:30:15.540 So, again, this is a fine road to travel.

01:30:18.160 It's no different.

01:30:19.640 Listen, it's just like a war.

01:30:21.940 Lots of innocent people are going to get destroyed in this, and there's really no way out of it.

01:30:27.280 you can be as red pill as possible for guys like us

01:30:31.020 and try and stay rational and cool-headed

01:30:33.000 even as you're dating and banging your way through this minefield.

01:30:36.580 But a lot of guys aren't going to make it.

01:30:39.280 What can we do?

01:30:40.280 We can try and be there for them,

01:30:41.740 but at the end of the day,

01:30:42.900 they have to figure it out for themselves.

01:30:45.580 And the idea that God's going to send everyone to hell

01:30:48.260 when we were born into a situation we had no control over

01:30:51.660 and it forces us to either be sinners or monks, right?

01:30:55.640 which is crazy unreasonable standards uh you know maybe you know who this was but there was

01:31:02.480 a a prominent monk uh from the early centuries of the church who said that he basically said

01:31:10.780 like listen you know what we are getting praised as saints for doing all these incredible things

01:31:16.280 honestly in the years that come towards the end for a man just to be decent will be as much of

01:31:23.760 an achievement as all of these

01:31:25.600 incredible feats we're achieving

01:31:27.460 today. Yeah, because

01:31:29.580 we have ten times the temptation.

01:31:32.620 We've got way more

01:31:33.760 bullshit to deal with. From birth!

01:31:36.600 Right from childhood!

01:31:38.540 You don't even get a

01:31:39.660 chance to dissect what's happening.

01:31:43.260 Think of how messed up that is.

01:31:47.780 Well, and ultimately that's it, folks.

01:31:49.840 Go out there, be virile,

01:31:51.940 be responsible,

01:31:53.760 to yourself but don't beat yourself up over every little minor failing don't

01:31:59.700 I mean in a way that's its own form of being a Pharisee of obsessing over the

01:32:06.480 the details and the rules as opposed to the spirit of things right it's the

01:32:12.120 spirits are you being a good neighbor is this person your neighbor and are you

01:32:17.880 treating the neighborly that's the key question that's what everyone loses

01:32:21.960 sight of all right Sam so I think that I think that was a great podcast you have

01:32:28.560 any last words that you want to say before we shut her down no no not right

01:32:36.080 now I think that was my last words on the neighbor but that's the key key

01:32:39.400 message people got to remember that the golden rule treat others well and be

01:32:45.260 Not others.

01:32:46.860 Neighbors.

01:32:47.440 Not others.

01:32:48.940 Capital N.

01:32:49.900 Capital Neighbors.

01:32:50.780 It's a big distinction.

01:32:52.260 And it fits in with what St. Paul says about he who walks with the Spirit does not need the law.

01:32:58.020 If you know who your neighbors are, what do you need the Bible for?

01:33:01.600 If you know that they're your neighbors and that they are part of you, we share that collective soul, you don't need to memorize rules.

01:33:09.000 If you're riding your bicycle correctly, the training wheels will never touch the ground anyway.

01:33:14.700 Correct.

01:33:15.260 So, folks, Sam So is a frequent poster over at the Rouge V Forum, which is one of those

01:33:23.180 really interesting collectives of very intelligent men.

01:33:29.040 There's debate.

01:33:30.040 There isn't groupthink.

01:33:31.040 At least, I don't think there's that much groupthink.

01:33:34.200 Very interesting place, which is why I hang up there.

01:33:36.100 You can see his writings there.

01:33:38.560 He might start up a blog at some point.

01:33:40.500 But for now, you just find him posting on there.

01:33:43.140 Folks, I want to say thank you very much for listening.

01:33:46.240 God bless all of you.

01:33:49.180 Deus volt.

01:33:50.540 This is Irini out.

Leo D.M.J. Aurini - September 25, 2017

Theology, the Church, and the Locus of Morality with Samseau

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