Leo D.M.J. Aurini - July 22, 2013


Warfare, Rhetoric, and Politeness： Tools of the Civilized Man


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11 minutes

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1,748

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5

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19

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The highest form of achievement in battle is to win the war without having to wage a battle in the first place. This is why the civilized man uses organized warfare to achieve his aims, preferably without wasting a single bullet.

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00:00:00.000 do not thwart the enemy retreating home if you surround the enemy leave an outlet do not press
00:00:12.920 an enemy that is cornered these are the principles of warfare organized war rhetoric politeness
00:00:24.120 these are the tools of the civilized man so it behooves us to ask the question what is organized
00:00:32.720 warfare what is war exactly it is not mere violence violence at the domain of the barbarian
00:00:39.360 is to assuage the ego to demonstrate personal greatness at the expense of the civilization
00:00:47.820 barbarians engage in violence civilized men engage in warfare 0.97
00:00:55.080 warfare is the coercion of others using violence again let's go back to tsunzi the highest form of 1.00
00:01:07.020 achievement in battle is to win the war without having to wage a battle in the first place
00:01:13.080 this is why you leave your enemy an outlet you don't seek to destroy the enemy you don't seek
00:01:21.660 to assuage your petty ego concerns by proving that you are the biggest one around you go out there
00:01:28.500 with a goal and you accomplish that goal using violence as part of the tool set this is why
00:01:35.480 you leave them an out you leave them an open a place that they can route to
00:01:41.160 an easier way to understand this you know we could go into a huge big thing about routing the enemy
00:01:48.960 etc an easier way to understand this is the use of landmines now most people when they think of landmines
00:01:58.860 they think of you know buried landmines surprising the infantry etc that is not the primary
00:02:05.060 use of landmines they certainly have a role in establishing a defensive position but the primary
00:02:11.840 use of landmines in warfare is to funnel the enemy into a particular place what you are trying to do
00:02:20.100 in any battle is control the enemy control them and make them march to your tomb so what you do is you
00:02:27.200 put you put a field of landmines here and you put a field of landmines over there and so the enemy you
00:02:33.980 offer them one vulnerable location where they don't have to worry about the landmines and the enemy will
00:02:39.540 be funneled into that location which is exactly where you know they're going to go so that's where
00:02:45.140 you put up your machine guns you always want to leave your opponent and out a slaughter a barbarian 1.00
00:02:55.940 slaughter is going to be needlessly costly on both sides and ultimately it will be a pure victory 1.00
00:03:01.580 you'll win but at what price no no the civilized man uses organized warfare to achieve his aims
00:03:09.400 preferably without wasting a single bullet
00:03:12.340 the exact same thing applies to rhetoric
00:03:20.280 now let's say you're arguing with somebody and you're trying to convince them 0.99
00:03:26.380 now when we argue with with feminists and socialists and other such mentally ill damaged 0.99
00:03:33.360 personalities we're not trying to convince them of anything there's no point in trying to convince them 0.98
00:03:39.260 they don't work on a logical level with those people all you can do is ridicule them
00:03:43.940 you can redefine that you can look at their positions are incoherent you can look really closely
00:03:50.880 define their position and show a thousand ways it loops back on itself and cancels itself out
00:03:55.260 that it's nothing but a big divide by zero error they will continue to repeat this exact same argument
00:04:01.100 but let's forget the sociopaths and the narcissists and the broken people and what about when you're
00:04:08.220 arguing with somebody that actually is intelligent but has an incorrect belief how do you sway their
00:04:14.240 opinion if you use the same tactic that you use to ridicule the feminists if you take their position 1.00
00:04:22.180 and you completely define their position and make them look like a fool for holding that position 0.91
00:04:27.460 you're not giving them an egressive retreat there's no way for them to salvage their ego 0.79
00:04:34.820 now perhaps this person is incredibly noble and they will accept your argument despite the blow to their ego 0.99
00:04:41.380 but for the vast majority of people it is such an insult you are calling them such a moron for 0.87
00:04:47.300 believing in what they believe that they're going to double down on the belief put simply one of the 0.97
00:04:53.140 best rhetorical devices you can use to convince a person is say you know what i agree with you but
00:05:01.140 even if you don't agree with them there's there's some sort of common ground you can establish with
00:05:07.380 that person and if you start that out you start out saying listen we have this common ground you're
00:05:12.660 not a complete idiot you're just mistaken about this one thing and you leave them that outlet and then
00:05:20.020 you present your argument you have your debate with them and you leave it hanging you don't press the 0.99
00:05:25.780 attack you let them retreat that person will then go back to their go back to their home they 0.66
00:05:32.100 will think about it they will process the new information you provided them and they're able
00:05:36.420 to process it because it's not directly attacking their ego because you said that i agree with you
00:05:43.300 but and so they process it and then a month later two months later three months later you will hear your
00:05:51.140 argument coming out of their mouth sometimes they won't even remember that it's your argument other
00:05:55.860 times they will and then they'll treat you like their best friend because your enemy you didn't
00:06:02.900 destroy them again and this this is in uh machiavelli don't destroy your enemy your enemy can become your
00:06:10.580 best friend if you leave them a means of escape if you let them survive they wind up being grateful
00:06:20.500 whether we're talking about warfare or talking about rhetorical argument it's when you destroy
00:06:25.460 somebody that they become resentful even if they admit that you're right chances are they're going
00:06:30.660 to be vengeful towards you and this is where we get to politeness so again the barbarian he goes to war 0.99
00:06:42.580 to feel like a big man and just kill a bunch of people the barbarian gets into screaming matches 0.84
00:06:48.580 just because he wants to be the one to win the argument rather than convince anybody of a particular 0.95
00:06:53.380 belief and the barbarian doesn't know what politeness is he knows how to dominate and he knows how to 0.64
00:07:00.500 kowtow but he doesn't know how to be polite
00:07:07.940 politeness is the tool of the civilized man for other civilized men
00:07:15.940 when you are encountering somebody in public
00:07:18.580 and there is a conflict of interest this is where politeness comes up
00:07:24.580 probably the easiest one to imagine here is if you're trying to pick up a girl at the bar
00:07:30.180 if you're approaching a woman now women like being approached but they want to be approached by a 0.99
00:07:36.580 particular guy and you might not be the guy that they want approaching them and so civility politeness
00:07:44.260 would be the woman letting you down gently in other words she's allowing you a means of escape from
00:07:52.420 the whole thing that she is allowing you to pretend that you were just gently flirting you weren't really
00:07:59.700 interested that your feelings aren't hurt that you didn't lose status by being shot down and it's this
00:08:05.380 preservation of the ego this means of escape that allows us to be in a civil society together
00:08:15.540 alternatively if and this is becoming increasingly prevalent throughout manosphere talks about it a lot 1.00
00:08:23.380 alternatively if she shuts you down and then ridicules you and laughs at you you feel like an idiot and 0.98
00:08:29.540 it you've just had your ego damaged and at that point there's no longer language there's only violence you're back to the brute barbarian 0.99
00:08:39.380 and the same thing goes for the guy the guy approaching the woman
00:08:43.380 needs to let her have an out rather than press his attack constantly if she's not interested a decent guy will 0.99
00:08:52.820 politely back off politely allow her to reject her and without
00:08:58.020 being overwhelming and see that way we maintain the ego we maintain our status within society
00:09:06.740 without having to revert to violence i saw a terrible example of this during the calgary stampede
00:09:14.260 where a drunk guy was getting kicked out of the bar because his girlfriend was complaining about him
00:09:18.980 i didn't know the whole backstory but there are these two wannabe alpha males at the bar telling him
00:09:25.220 no you can't come back in here buddy you're creeping her out you're doing xyz and they were just
00:09:30.900 destroying this guy's ego and so you got this guy and he is raging right now because his woman is inside
00:09:37.780 the bar with a bunch of strange men this goes right back to the hind brain this goes back to paleolithic
00:09:43.300 times and on top of that they're calling him every word in the book and challenging him essentially
00:09:49.220 challenging him to stand up to them and on top of that he is hammered out of his skull 0.81
00:09:54.420 he's dressed up in a cowboy costume so he probably feels a little bit ridiculous especially now that
00:09:59.380 he's being emasculated in front of strangers and i could just see in this guy's face the struggle 0.95
00:10:06.180 between the higher brain saying this fight isn't worth it and the the lower brain saying murder these 0.99
00:10:13.540 sons of bitches that's how you get knife fights happening a real bouncer does not destroy the ego 0.99
00:10:21.940 of the person being bounced he does not destroy the enemy he allows them to retreat with dignity 0.99
00:10:28.420 he says to them listen you've both had a lot she's going to be okay in here you know you should probably
00:10:34.580 go home and give her a call the next day and you guys can sort it out then when you're both sober
00:10:38.580 suddenly ego assuaged no need for violence except we are in a civilization fast losing that civility
00:10:49.940 and we're all reverting back to the grunts of group barbarians 0.92
00:11:00.500 the reason i bring all of this up is because politeness is so poorly understood nowadays
00:11:05.620 it's become the kowtowing people mistake standing up for something as being impolite they mistake
00:11:13.380 assertiveness as being impolite when real politeness only happens during a conflict
00:11:22.820 it's like virtue you can only have virtue by resisting a seductive temptation you don't have
00:11:30.580 virtue by being an asthate same thing with politeness if there's no conflict there's no politeness but
00:11:38.340 when there is conflict politeness is how the civilized man deals with it greenie up folks