Leo D.M.J. Aurini - August 06, 2018


"Who Else Shall Cry Out if Not Us?" Sunday Live!


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2 hours and 24 minutes

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21,993

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635

Misogynist Sentences

34

Hate Speech Sentences

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00:00:00.000 who else shall cry out if not us
00:00:08.760 so i did a stream earlier in the week with matt forney about the fact that the pope has just put
00:00:17.700 heresy into the catechism i'm not going to be digging into that topic there's a 30 minute
00:00:23.260 live stream you guys can look that up i've discussed it with beckloff i've discussed it
00:00:26.940 with John Steele. It's an issue. It's an ongoing issue, but I'm not going to be going into details
00:00:33.880 about that. I told you people that when I went to church today, I was going to confront my priest
00:00:42.220 about this and say, what does it mean that I rebuke, I reject one paragraph in the catechism?
00:00:52.060 Not that I'm ignoring it because I'm a sinful human being, but that I'm outright saying, this is evil.
00:00:58.360 I refuse to acknowledge this.
00:01:00.460 I call this uncatholic.
00:01:03.260 Well, I had that conversation with my priest, and he didn't want to take a stance on it.
00:01:10.820 He neither told me that I'm not welcome in the church, nor did he tell me that I was right in my discernment here.
00:01:19.920 Instead, he asked me to follow up by email.
00:01:22.060 which I did, and I also plan to follow up with the Bishop of Calgary.
00:01:30.740 Not for my sake, but for the 16,000 people that choose to follow this channel.
00:01:39.080 I'm not looking at this for myself.
00:01:41.300 I'm looking at it for you.
00:01:44.860 But this is the issue I want to discuss.
00:01:48.380 The fact that my priest, and he's a very good priest.
00:01:53.220 He has the grace of discernment.
00:01:55.500 He has been a very good priest to me.
00:01:57.880 But when I brought up this issue, he didn't want to deal with it.
00:02:02.600 You know, when I woke up this morning, slept in a little bit.
00:02:08.240 I said to myself, I don't want to go to church.
00:02:09.920 I don't want to deal with this.
00:02:12.660 After church, I didn't want to confront my priest.
00:02:18.380 Who am I?
00:02:20.340 Who am I, 36-year-old parishioner,
00:02:24.660 to confront this older man that has done so much,
00:02:28.840 that knows the Bible so much better than I do,
00:02:31.420 that performs segments?
00:02:32.360 Who am I?
00:02:36.520 Well, I'll tell you who I am.
00:02:41.760 I'm the man that called out the false cult of Keck.
00:02:48.380 I am the one who called out the satanic inversion that had entered into the chaos magicians of 8chan.
00:02:56.920 I called it out, and I sucked the wind out of that demon's sails.
00:03:06.500 I am the man that has 16,000 of you that think I have something worthy of saying.
00:03:14.680 I am the man that broke my hand in battle with a direwolf or a Malamute, if you prefer.
00:03:26.660 And for those of you that have read the book of Daniel, that understand the affairs of angels are far more complex than we understand.
00:03:34.000 And those of you that are familiar with the Indo-European mythos, those of you who are familiar with Tyr and recognize the fact that he may just be one of the angelic beings, I am the man who was blessed by he that put his hand in the wolf Fenris' mouth.
00:04:01.220 I have met his approval.
00:04:04.360 I'm Davis Arrini, a soldier with an intuitive understanding of every weapon I've ever picked up.
00:04:12.760 I don't know how I know how guns operate, but when I pick them up, I know how they operate.
00:04:18.240 The knowledge is graced to me by the Lord.
00:04:22.100 And furthermore, not only has he given me a great intellect, he's also given me the grace of vision and discernment.
00:04:28.920 That is who I am. And that is why I am going to call this out. Because if we don't call it out, who is going to call it out? Isn't it so much easier to let it go, to play nice, to pretend that there's nothing wrong in the world whatsoever?
00:04:47.900 isn't easy to sit back and pretend that uncle bad touch at thanksgiving didn't molest little
00:04:58.460 sally sue isn't easy to cover up the sins within your own institution and just transfer them to a
00:05:06.000 different area whether it be the church or a university isn't it easy to pretend that the
00:05:11.780 constant demands for the death of whites.
00:05:15.340 It's just some angry minorities that doesn't matter.
00:05:20.380 Isn't it easy to pretend that the current path we're on
00:05:26.400 won't involve all of us dying alone in an old folks' home
00:05:34.660 with nobody to mourn us but the nurse that speaks English as a second language?
00:05:41.780 we have a couple of super chats right off the bat let me get to these first is dashing rogues us
00:05:47.840 five dollars priests are bureaucrats davis change comes from the bottom up i've spoken to priests
00:05:52.780 who state that they have no choice but to follow the catechisms some are standing up others like
00:06:01.320 my priest he is very focused on the salvation of souls not church politics this is why he is
00:06:06.720 just a priest and not a bishop because he cares about men and women so yeah i agree however that
00:06:16.320 we need to be the ones to speak up tom bombadil sends us 499 says keck totally died down since
00:06:21.760 then exactly keck was prepared to turn the entire dissident right into charlottesville
00:06:29.920 look at how many views my video on that got
00:06:34.260 i'm also the man that in 2014 predicted the current civil war which robertson who has joined
00:06:44.600 us has written about we'll be getting to that shortly and folks there's one more thing i need
00:06:50.600 to state before we really get the show rolling haythroon's mother is in the hospital right now
00:06:58.840 and i ask that you folks pray for her i don't know if you want to say anything about that hey through
00:07:09.560 um sorry sorry i had to unmute my mic there i didn't want to interrupt you talking um
00:07:14.600 yeah my mother was hospitalized uh late friday night she had to have emergency surgery that's
00:07:20.520 all i really want to say on it but um your your thoughts and prayers are very much appreciated
00:07:25.240 Thank you.
00:07:29.460 So, guys, please do pray for her.
00:07:33.020 Now, Robertson, you wrote a piece recently on CounterCurrents.
00:07:37.180 It's linked down below, and I thought it was absolutely excellent.
00:07:41.040 You were describing the Civil War, and you pointed out that it's already happening.
00:07:46.040 You quoted Clausewitz, war is politics by other means, okay?
00:07:50.300 Just because the guns aren't out yet?
00:07:53.220 oh no they're just getting you kicked off of the internet and fired from your job
00:07:57.000 and trying to drive you to the point of suicide
00:07:59.100 you know will you recognize the civil war when it shows up on your front door
00:08:04.820 and i also think you aptly described what these sides of this conflict are going to be
00:08:10.400 the defining the defining line in the sand here is pro-european civilization and anti-european
00:08:19.900 civilization put it very simply pro-white and anti-white doesn't mean that it's white versus
00:08:25.860 everyone else it's pro-white there are minorities there's non-whites that are pro-white and there
00:08:32.180 are plenty of whites that are anti-white do you want to talk a bit about that sure well thank you
00:08:39.760 for that very kind introduction um yeah no my wife and i were watching this show wild wild country
00:08:48.880 which was a fantastic documentary on the rise and fall of Rajneeshparam in Antelope, Oregon.
00:08:58.780 And what was, I think, what stood out to me most by the very end of the show
00:09:03.360 is that when they erected that monument to the, not the survivors,
00:09:09.260 because there wasn't like a lot of violence,
00:09:10.720 but to the resilient residents who stuck it out and resisted the influence of the Rajneeshis.
00:09:21.380 The memorial thanked and acknowledged the people as survivors of an invasion and of an occupation.
00:09:32.660 And looking back in hindsight, it was very clear that it had been an invasion and an occupation,
00:09:37.460 But no one understood what was happening as it was going on, as it was happening.
00:09:43.260 And anyone who has read The Four Generations of Modern War by Lind and Thiel or the shorter Fourth Generation Warfare Handbook will know that warfare doesn't always look like it does in the movies.
00:09:57.540 oftentimes warfare is and the israeli military historian martin ben krebel i think summarized
00:10:05.100 it quite aptly um sometimes invasion and warfare are functionally the same now we're obviously
00:10:13.500 experiencing great deals of migration but we're also experiencing separate from the migration and
00:10:18.620 immigration um the sorts of political philandering and manipulation and aggression that is not
00:10:30.140 politics as usual and uh warfare is from this perspective more a state of mind than it is a um
00:10:41.100 than it is a set of of identified clearly identifiable actions you know it's very
00:10:45.660 it's it's easy to to say whether something's comedy or not but it's hard to put a definition
00:10:51.580 on it warfare is kind of like that too and i feel like the the right wing is about two decades
00:10:58.140 behind the left in getting into that mindset and it only takes one to start a war there was an
00:11:04.940 article today by by the z man or the zed man as we call him in soviet kanakistan about this sarah
00:11:13.260 jeong nonsense so briefly if you guys haven't heard about this i'm sure you probably have
00:11:19.900 sarah jeong is this korean woman that loves posting all this anti-white hate bitterness
00:11:28.380 white people smell like dogs i'm gonna make an app so dumb white people can figure out how to make
00:11:33.420 rice it's literally an app that shows you where they sell a rice maker just all of this very
00:11:38.940 very virulent angry stupid and ongoing just she did this for years she was recently hired by the
00:11:46.660 new york times and the new york times they actually wrote a justification of her behavior
00:11:52.980 and they were so hasty in getting it out they just screen capped something they wrote in word
00:11:58.300 and you can even see the cursor is still blinking in it and what the z-man is pointing out
00:12:04.440 is that this is really forcing you to acknowledge what's going on because the Asians are the model
00:12:13.580 minority, aren't they? The Asians are the ones that come here and get educations and pay taxes
00:12:19.640 and, you know, like the blacks get angry at us. Well, it's because they come from poor
00:12:25.720 neighborhoods. The Mexicans, you know, same thing. They have to work day labor. They're just angry.
00:12:29.360 They're not really angry at white people. So just play over, roll over and play dead white person.
00:12:34.440 They're not really angry at you.
00:12:35.860 They're just frustrated with their economic circumstances.
00:12:38.760 Well, here we have an Asian woman hired by the New York Times.
00:12:43.600 Of course, Ben Shapiro is bending over to apologize for her as well.
00:12:47.980 You know, at what point are you going to wake up, Normie?
00:12:51.780 This woman has had all the blessings of Western civilization,
00:12:55.360 and she hates the founders of Western civilization.
00:12:59.660 Of course, this is not all Asians, okay?
00:13:03.000 but this is this is the side pro-european anti-european yes uh i i was asked about this
00:13:10.680 i was on luke ford's stream earlier today and i was asked about this by the way go check that
00:13:14.680 out on his channel if you haven't already it was pretty fun uh and i said i don't care if uh the
00:13:20.120 times hires or you know uh this will make it uh i mean the media is we're already in a position
00:13:26.760 where a large number of americans white americans do not trust the news media they view it as
00:13:31.720 as inimimical to their interests.
00:13:33.280 I mean, we've seen this ever invisible terms
00:13:36.460 ever since Trump was campaigning two years ago.
00:13:40.400 But stuff like this will make it super obvious to the normies.
00:13:44.560 You know, the New York Times is abandoning
00:13:47.880 all pretense of objectivity
00:13:49.520 and revealing themselves to be an anti-white,
00:13:53.000 anti-American newspaper.
00:13:54.500 That makes it very clear for the cheap seats
00:13:56.760 who's in charge, who's running this,
00:13:59.100 how these people feel about you.
00:14:01.720 I should add with Sarah Jung to the whole model minority thing.
00:14:07.020 Sarah Jung is, by any objective standard, she's not very attractive.
00:14:11.220 Like, she's a four on her best day.
00:14:14.200 But an interesting thing, if you comb her tweets,
00:14:17.920 the vast majority of her relationships seem to have been with white men.
00:14:24.200 My working observation here...
00:14:26.040 Didn't she have a history with Weave?
00:14:28.140 Like, I've seen one of the speculations is the reason she's so angry at white men.
00:14:31.720 is because Weeb wouldn't have sex with her.
00:14:34.140 Yeah, see, I was about to bring that up.
00:14:36.540 She wants the most desirable, like, attractive white men,
00:14:40.500 but she can't get them because she's not attractive enough.
00:14:42.820 So she's stuck with all these weird soy boy losers who eat vegan
00:14:47.900 and make the new male grin when they have their Nintendo Switch,
00:14:52.100 and they're just all in all pretty repulsive individuals.
00:14:55.100 So she transmutes her hatred onto whites in general
00:14:57.820 because she wants so desperately to be part of white culture,
00:15:01.400 but she just can't make it despite all of her success she's always going to be on the outside
00:15:07.880 looking in well quite frankly i think that's the hatred of of european civilization they don't hate
00:15:15.540 us for our flaws they hate us for our virtues okay like yes european civilization has flaws
00:15:22.320 and we've gone down a lot of wrong paths but despite that europe is the most successful it
00:15:28.900 the grandest civilization the planet has ever seen we put men on the moon i was going to say
00:15:36.500 what you're describing there isn't hate it's envy well the the two things are are can be relatively
00:15:44.020 close hatred and envy hatred comes from a a sense of something that you love being threatened so if
00:15:51.940 you if if the existence of something else threatens your conception of yourself then it's it's
00:15:58.020 natural. I suppose you could say envy is a kind of hatred, but she doesn't want what we have,
00:16:04.020 she just wants it gone. How is it a threat to which she believes she values?
00:16:11.620 Well, I mean, imagine you are part of a civilization that you are quite proud of,
00:16:16.820 but your next door neighbor has created something that is objectively, you know, grander or more
00:16:23.620 beautiful or more more functional that that next door neighbors culture may still be alien to you
00:16:30.200 may not want it but the the proximity that makes you feel inferior that that it's not quite the
00:16:37.960 same thing as envy it well at least when i think about envy the connotation is desiring what
00:16:45.420 someone else has covetousness like like i wish i had that too whereas if you just want something
00:16:50.820 else to be destroyed because it threatens uh your own self-conception or something that you love
00:16:57.700 um it's it's hard for people to wrap their heads around it i think that this idea of
00:17:04.740 just wanting to destroy something um but it's a real emotion and i think we've invested ourselves
00:17:10.980 too heavily against hatred as an emotion that can never be moral and so we don't understand it very
00:17:17.140 well this is why it says don't covet your neighbor's wife or your neighbor's goods it doesn't
00:17:23.220 say don't want what your neighbors have there's a very silly line from from good lord mr conductor
00:17:31.940 where he proceeds to disprove the ten commandments where he says that wanting what your neighbor has
00:17:37.540 the basic basis of the free market economy no if your neighbor has a beautiful wife and a beautiful
00:17:43.060 house, it is good to want those things for yourself. Covetness is when you are angry at
00:17:55.620 your neighbor for having something you can't. And so rather than earn what your neighbor has,
00:18:01.400 you seek to destroy it. And this is the basis of Marxism. This is the basis of postmodernism,
00:18:10.140 of feminism, of penis envy, of all of these. In the distant right, we've been talking about all
00:18:18.360 of these toxic systems, and I think they're finally coming together. They are amalgamating.
00:18:26.040 Due to Trump, they're all amalgamating into one thing, and it is pure covetousness.
00:18:33.260 I was just trying to nail down the core emotion, because I understand that hatred
00:18:37.880 hatred is what these things lead to, but I think what you described, Christopher, the
00:18:43.560 second way you described it would actually be fear. It's a fear of something. Well, actually,
00:18:50.100 if it's a threat, then it would be a fear. That the fear is leading to the hatred or
00:18:54.320 the envy is leading to the hatred, but the hatred seems more of an effect and not a cause.
00:18:59.680 Possibly. There's a lot of different facets of hatred, to be sure.
00:19:03.280 Sure.
00:19:03.880 Mandy up above in the comment section said that love and hatred are two sides
00:19:09.880 of the same coin I don't want to to self promote too shamelessly but my book
00:19:16.480 in defense of hatred goes over some of that stuff okay please feel free to
00:19:24.340 shamelessly self-promote well well part of the reason I don't want to shamelessly
00:19:30.500 self-promote either is that i was i was a much stronger christian when i wrote it very very
00:19:36.080 recently and so my my sort of desperation to merge those two things led to some some rather bad
00:19:44.660 theology working its way into that book so i think the core argument i make is still good but it's
00:19:49.940 it's not the best book out there we'll say actually interesting um i'll just mention this
00:19:57.080 The way that Chris and I got into contact is he wrote some very, very good critiques of what's going on in Christianity right now, and he was hoping that I could debate him.
00:20:10.220 I unfortunately cannot.
00:20:12.600 They are good critiques.
00:20:13.600 I would like somebody to prove them wrong.
00:20:15.680 You kind of said you would like to be proved wrong as well, I believe.
00:20:18.880 Very much so.
00:20:20.700 So I don't have an answer to that.
00:20:23.360 Although I will say, well, first of all, part of me is very glad.
00:20:31.800 Part of my faith is reaffirmed at what has happened with the catechism.
00:20:35.960 Because this is, again, the title of the content, of the stream, you know, are we going to speak out against this?
00:20:46.640 Well, now it is so blatant.
00:20:49.680 This is not Pope Francis saying another idiotic thing that can be misinterpreted.
00:20:55.420 This is black and white.
00:20:56.900 This is the catechism.
00:20:58.800 This demands a stance.
00:21:01.460 Same thing with Jiang.
00:21:04.220 When an angry black man from the ghetto is screaming about Whitey, well, look at where he comes from.
00:21:11.360 Of course he's pissed off.
00:21:12.440 when Jiang is entirely privileged her entire life
00:21:17.380 and she has a job at the New York Times
00:21:20.200 and even then she is filled with this envy and bitterness.
00:21:26.200 You know, this demands that we speak.
00:21:29.160 This is what separates the wheat from the chaff.
00:21:32.880 I wrote on Twitter that this is what separates
00:21:35.480 the church militant from the church apathetic.
00:21:37.380 if you don't care about the church being corrupted if you don't care about society
00:21:46.320 being turned against itself if if you don't care about the rampant effeminacy in the church and in
00:21:53.740 the society then we know you're our enemy we know we you don't care that's fine you know psalms one
00:22:03.160 one don't stand between a sinner and a sin you go walk off that cliff you are not of my tribe you
00:22:08.440 are not of my people those that do care will be standing up i don't have i don't know how many of
00:22:16.400 us care but a lot of us do and i think i think it's important that we identify those people
00:22:26.900 by their deeds and by the virtues that they adhere to and not necessarily by their religious faith
00:22:32.500 because we're not all christians well the the church that my wife and i have been attending
00:22:37.960 for the last several years um has been working through the book of james where they talk about
00:22:43.880 the importance of works and and i wouldn't consider myself a christian but i still enjoy
00:22:49.560 christian theology and the the idea was never a lot of atheists are very very uh will gleefully
00:22:56.180 point out that oh it the bible says you are saved by faith alone and it says you're saved by faith
00:23:01.640 and works but the whole idea is that no works don't save you but they are the evidence that
00:23:07.020 your faith is well placed and is honest um and speaking of intentions i think it's it's an
00:23:15.060 interesting and a very likely theory that sarah jong is motivated by envy or hatred or any of
00:23:22.400 these things it's also entirely possible or maybe both of these things that she's just following
00:23:28.240 market demands you know there's a large demand for anti-white sentiments um i think uh babylon
00:23:37.120 b posted recently that the new york times den's by its recent editorial board hire joseph stalin
00:23:43.000 despite criticism of mass murder you know um and they they came up with a very clever similar like
00:23:49.800 oh he responded to fire with fire by uh killing his political dissidents but there's a there's a
00:23:56.980 market demand for for anti-white sentiment um and i think it's uh there's becoming and this is
00:24:06.020 something maybe to look out for and market demand for anti-anti-white sentiment that can also get
00:24:11.540 in the way of of serious conversation yeah be we need to be very careful about that
00:24:18.420 because one of the errors that occurred with the distant right is
00:24:23.220 oh the sjw's are going to call us nazis well let's put on plastic german army helmets and
00:24:31.620 seek hail all over the place let's become the red skull we don't want to counter signal the counter
00:24:38.020 signalers you know speaking of which there was a request i was specifically requested to discuss
00:24:48.820 christopher can't well because well in the past i used to be quite the fan of him i tried to reach
00:24:55.380 out to him when he was going through a dark place i actually had that video taken down for hate
00:24:59.780 speech because i was trying to talk a man into not committing suicide so i guess trying to talk white
00:25:05.700 people into not killing themselves is hate speech so he just got out of prison and he eventually
00:25:17.060 caught to a plea bargain which prevents him from going to what is the state of vermont or something
00:25:22.020 virginia virginia nobody wants to go to that state anyway uh the person that was documented to
00:25:28.820 have assaulted him with pepper spray he did the research finding this guy and basically they said
00:25:36.440 the only way they'll charge him is if christopher campwell comes down to make a statement but he's
00:25:40.880 not allowed to come down to the state unless if it's under whatever, under a writ where
00:25:47.380 you're demanded to come. So if he went down there to report the crime, he would be arrested
00:25:52.900 for violating the conditions of his release. You know, I'm glad he's out. I'm very glad
00:26:01.600 he's out. And he's acknowledged that Charlottesville was a disaster, unlike a lot of the people,
00:26:09.340 unfortunately my worry about Cantwell is that he does not have faith and everybody here has faith
00:26:19.680 guys this is a spiritual struggle and you know like what he threw and commented that not just
00:26:28.840 the Christian faith and it yes absolutely it can't just be because if that's your standard
00:26:33.140 that you need to go to church most of the people in the church don't care about the church about
00:26:37.720 the pope uttering heresy there if you are not going to care if you're not going to notice if
00:26:44.600 you are going to stick your head in the sand then you are not you don't care about the truth
00:26:55.400 but you need faith for this and catwell god bless him and by the way he also
00:27:01.480 mentioned i linked his podcast below he mentioned the people are still in prison
00:27:04.920 all right and he gave you the information that you can write them letters which i may very well
00:27:13.000 be doing i would encourage you guys to do so as well okay davis i hate to say this but i really
00:27:20.720 recommend you don't you don't think i'll be received well don't don't don't do it unless
00:27:26.980 you want to end up on like some sort of like canadian american uh watch list just don't do it
00:27:33.520 oh fair enough you can always write anonymous letters well if you're an
00:27:40.280 American you'd probably be less at risk but like in your case this might be the
00:27:44.020 kind of thing they get you banned from the US Davis yeah that's that's an
00:27:47.620 excellent point actually yeah we don't we don't want you getting banned from the
00:27:51.220 US yeah cuz I'm banned from Canada it means we'd have to like I guess go to
00:27:55.540 meet in Costa Rica or something well you have to go to one of those towns that's
00:27:59.620 actually right on the border and just shouted each other from opposing starbucks well thankfully i i
00:28:05.320 don't think davis arini writing letters to can't well would be the the top of the u.s ban list
00:28:10.440 it's actually quite hard to ban people from the united states uh much harder than it is from
00:28:15.380 germany or britain or australia um so far as i can tell true but you shouldn't take that risk davis
00:28:23.240 especially because you don't know any of these people that's true i do think it was it was nice
00:28:28.220 to see a little bit of leadership
00:28:29.420 finally coming out of
00:28:32.220 the Charlottesville disaster.
00:28:37.100 Cantwell should have realized
00:28:38.300 this was a disaster a long time ago.
00:28:40.340 I mean, just a couple short months ago,
00:28:41.940 he supported the doxing
00:28:44.460 of Ricky Vaughn
00:28:45.180 on partially on the basis that Ricky Vaughn
00:28:48.400 said Charlottesville was a disaster.
00:28:50.500 The exact quote was that
00:28:51.700 if Ricky Vaughn is saying those things,
00:28:53.520 he should be hiding for his
00:28:56.100 fucking safety, not tweeting about it.
00:28:59.040 This is why I'm glad I have you as an ally, Forney.
00:29:01.380 I'm far too forgiving of people.
00:29:03.620 Cantwell is like – Jim Smethra is bringing up something I said recently on one of my streams.
00:29:07.980 Cantwell is going to find himself in prison again in the next couple of years for doing something stupid.
00:29:12.460 This entire experience, he learned nothing from it.
00:29:15.080 He learned nothing from it.
00:29:16.860 He's taken the wrong lesson.
00:29:18.380 He's going to go out and do something even dumber, and he's going to fuck himself permanently.
00:29:23.580 and there won't be anyone coming to support his fund
00:29:26.720 or write him letters in jail
00:29:28.040 or help co-host a show of him.
00:29:29.640 He's done.
00:29:31.720 Cantwell is starting his live streams
00:29:33.760 with a song that sings about gassing the Jews
00:29:37.540 and the phone number to reach him is 1-800-IM-1488.
00:29:43.800 By the way, the previous phone number he had
00:29:46.140 was 1-800-GO-NAZI.
00:29:49.200 That's such a clever, that's so clever.
00:29:51.500 That's how you convince people that we're not actually the Red Skull.
00:29:55.780 There was a great debate that sort of happens by proxy between Dr. Jordan Peterson and Dr. Ricardo Duchesne, I believe both from Canada, where Ricardo Duchesne said it was important to take pride in your heritage, in your ancestors, in your ethnicity, and in your civilization.
00:30:17.300 And Jordan Peterson was presented with the statement and gave his response saying, oh, there's a sin of pride.
00:30:22.760 I wrote a little bit about this. I thought Jordan Peterson actually overstepped and misunderstood, perhaps even intentionally misunderstood Duchesne's position.
00:30:31.360 But there is a serious problem with pride when it comes to the alt-right relative to conservatives.
00:30:40.700 I don't think it's as bad as the problem that progressives have with pride.
00:30:44.860 I don't think anyone tops them in that regard.
00:30:49.180 But there is a kind of hubris in the sorts of brazen disregard for where other people are coming from and good taste from the Weave and Cantwell and Anglin crowd.
00:31:06.000 Could you give us a little lecture on the Norse words for, not braggadocio, but the words we were talking about before we start the string.
00:31:16.820 Could you explain those, the audience?
00:31:18.240 Oh, sure.
00:31:19.380 They're actually old English words.
00:31:20.820 The first one is beot, and a beot is basically a resolution to accomplish a deed in the future.
00:31:29.200 It amounts to taking an oath or boasting of something that you're going to do in the future.
00:31:33.620 And then a yelp is something that you have already accomplished, your boasting of deeds that you've already accomplished, or it can also be boasting of your ancestry, your tradition, something praiseworthy that has already come to pass.
00:31:46.760 Sorry to interject. Quick question regarding Beot. In Beowulf, there's a scene in which Beowulf makes his official boast. I'm not familiar with the Old English. Is that this word that you're referring to?
00:31:59.900 that that is exactly it and what they're what they're doing there is they're participating
00:32:04.460 in an old anglo-saxon ritual called sambal and that was also practiced by the old norse as well
00:32:10.700 all the germanic tribes practiced sambal and uh sambal was a drinking ritual the men the noblemen
00:32:17.500 would gather in the lord's hall and they would drink mead together and they would sew bonds of
00:32:22.380 frith together and they would speak of great deeds that had been done and of great deeds that they
00:32:26.860 would be doing in the future thus the tradition of bayouts and yelps the latter but i started off
00:32:33.980 the live stream with folks now there's i just i want to address this because again uh there is a
00:32:43.740 great effeminacy in the church there's a great sickness and uh quite a bit and by the way effeminacy
00:32:49.660 i do not mean feminine okay if you look at somebody wearing a frilly shirt and say dude
00:32:54.860 that's a very effeminate shirt. You're saying it's a very feminine looking shirt. In theological
00:32:59.940 circles, effeminacy does not mean feminine. It means addicted to pleasure. I recently told my
00:33:07.880 Chad friend that his addiction to sex is very effeminate. And so the addiction to pleasure,
00:33:15.400 again, it's easier not to call this stuff out. It's easier not to speak up about any of this
00:33:20.080 stuff. It would have been easier for me to either not go to church or just to not confront my
00:33:24.300 priest. That would have been very effeminate because it would have been addicted to pleasure,
00:33:28.520 the feeling of being nice. Now, when it comes to pride, when we talk about, when Christians talk
00:33:35.740 about pride, the sin of pride, that word is being given a second meaning very much the same way
00:33:43.740 that effeminacy has a secondary meaning in theological circles. Pride in your race,
00:33:50.380 pride in your accomplishments
00:33:52.360 these are not
00:33:54.260 pride in the
00:33:56.460 theological sense and
00:33:58.300 Dashing Rogue sends a super chat pride needs
00:34:00.400 to be more defined when it comes to the term
00:34:02.440 vainglory is not good pride
00:34:04.520 exactly the pride that Christians
00:34:06.580 speak about is
00:34:08.080 hubris as Chris mentioned
00:34:10.620 it's vainglory
00:34:11.960 as Dashing Rogue mentioned
00:34:13.840 I have a video coming out tomorrow
00:34:16.060 it's kind of a follow up to my
00:34:17.680 last of the requested video I did
00:34:19.940 And one of the things I point out is the reason conservatives can't seem to conserve anything is because we don't know what it means to be a European.
00:34:30.700 And so many of these distant right movements, they take pride in their heritage, but they don't know what their heritage is.
00:34:43.540 Yeah, I would agree completely.
00:34:45.520 And there's a tricky catch-22 with not knowing who you are as well, because if you get too invested in investigating the past and in finding your own personal identity in the past rather than in the present, then that can be a symptom of not having an authentic identity and trying to replace it with something inauthentic.
00:35:13.160 true authentic identities and self-knowledge is an organic thing that's connected to the past
00:35:21.520 but isn't obsessed with it. And it's a very tricky line to walk and a balance, especially
00:35:28.200 in a society as disconnected as we are. Right. You bring up a great point there,
00:35:34.020 and this ties in with my own Viking Germanic tradition. We had an oral tradition among the
00:35:41.920 elder Germanic peoples that was passed down from father to son, from mother to daughter. And what
00:35:46.280 you're describing there, that disconnection that makes one or makes one tend to obsess over the
00:35:52.400 past instead of worthing himself in the present and taking pride in that, is because that bridge
00:35:58.060 has been taken out. And I attribute this, and I think some of you would agree, maybe all of you
00:36:02.840 would agree, to fatherlessness. The absence of the fathers has resulted in this lost generation
00:36:08.820 that's disconnected from its own heritage.
00:36:12.120 Hey, Thrun, if I, I don't want to,
00:36:15.260 I'm going to say something about where you've been recently
00:36:18.260 with your difficulties.
00:36:19.420 I'm not going to say too much,
00:36:21.160 but folks, hey, Thrun has been thrust
00:36:25.500 into the role of masculinity here.
00:36:29.980 She is the one that's being forced to be the strong one,
00:36:34.060 to be the pillar, because we don't have men anymore.
00:36:38.820 And this is why I said, if this is what we're going to be, if we are just going to play nice, if we're going to be effeminate, we're going to go along to get along, if we are not going to be men, then we're all dying alone in an old folks' home with nobody to mourn us.
00:36:57.780 We need men to be forming civilization.
00:37:02.120 We need to be taking this responsibility.
00:37:04.400 there's an article i read i'm not going to link i'm not going to say where it was
00:37:10.840 because i understand where the writer was coming from it was talking about how these instagram
00:37:16.240 models are describing themselves as goddesses and thirsty beta males are are sucking up and
00:37:22.800 treating them like goddesses and again this is more effeminacy but the article was attacking
00:37:28.740 the women it was attack it was exclusively guys this is what women become when there are no real
00:37:36.480 men when women are forced to fend for themselves when they can't trust men to treat them with
00:37:43.020 dignity when they can't trust men to protect them when we believe the lie of feminism
00:37:50.320 that women are completely free and equal and we use them
00:37:54.980 this is what they become we need men being strong and it's not it's not easy being strong
00:38:04.420 listen that one of the things that absolutely i absolutely despise it when feminists decide
00:38:13.720 to ridicule the fragility of masculinity yeah you're damn right it's fragile any man
00:38:21.400 that has put his body between the horrors of war
00:38:24.800 and the safety of home
00:38:27.620 knows perfectly well how fragile his body is.
00:38:35.020 And yet we do it.
00:38:37.600 That is what men do.
00:38:39.720 We stand up and be strong even though we aren't.
00:38:45.440 And if we don't do this,
00:38:47.860 if we don't have the gumption
00:38:49.720 to call out the Pope when he's in heresy,
00:38:52.140 if we don't have the cojones
00:38:53.600 to call out this
00:38:55.600 genocidal sentiment
00:38:57.400 that's right throughout society,
00:39:00.500 if we don't have
00:39:02.260 the dignity
00:39:03.400 to be men and take care of our
00:39:05.980 womenfolk,
00:39:07.200 then we've already lost.
00:39:10.440 Who shall cry out if not us?
00:39:13.960 Yeah, and it's so easy
00:39:16.020 to get caught in this
00:39:17.500 binary trap of thinking,
00:39:19.720 either men are responsible or women are responsible and so if you hold yourself responsible for
00:39:25.960 creating the market demand for these instagram models then the women aren't responsible or if you
00:39:31.000 if you um you know hold women responsible for for kind of kind of whoring themselves out on on
00:39:37.800 the internet um then you're you're letting the the men who generate that demand off the hook
00:39:42.760 well it's entirely possible to hold both parties accountable and to say women need to be better
00:39:49.640 and also men stop making this happen at the same time it's the whole the thing i think many people
00:39:55.580 misunderstand about jocko willink's absolute uh absolutely personal perspective on on
00:40:04.220 responsibility it doesn't mean other people aren't responsible it just means you're you're taking
00:40:08.900 uh the responsibility that you have first and letting other people worry about their
00:40:15.920 the things that you're not responsible for. Right. But the types of people that you're
00:40:21.040 describing there, Christopher, are the damaged children that result from fatherlessness,
00:40:26.700 both the boys and the girls. So they're wandering the wilderness in ignorance,
00:40:30.960 acting out on pure instinct, in most cases acting out because they haven't been invested in
00:40:36.880 by a paternal figure. So in that state, they really can't lift themselves up. They need
00:40:43.120 a paternal figure to mentor them, to invest in them, to, well, in the case of the boys,
00:40:50.240 help bring them up. And in the case of the girls, help them to see their feminine value
00:40:53.800 and protect it and honor it. Well, that's a fair point. And I suppose I can't speak to
00:41:00.900 not being a woman. I have not a very great insight into the female mentality. But I know among
00:41:08.140 young men um the way to lift them out of that is not to to reach out and and be a a father to them
00:41:17.520 in a helicopter parent fashion is to be a father in the inspirational sense to do things that draw
00:41:25.880 them towards you and uh inspire them to to emulate those great actions and again i'm not sure if that
00:41:33.160 would apply in the case of Instagram models. I can only speak to what I know, which is...
00:41:40.540 You're right. You're right. But even in a family situation where there is an actual father there,
00:41:46.560 the role of the father, as I've observed it, is to, in fact, model and encourage, as you have
00:41:51.520 described. And that acts upon the boy's development. For girls, it is different. The father is needed
00:41:59.900 to impress upon the girl one what her feminine value is so that she's aware of it because without
00:42:05.260 that she won't know it and she'll either fall into a lack of self-value where she undervalues
00:42:12.780 herself and she behaves thoughtlessly and promiscuously or she will overestimate her
00:42:18.380 value and have a sense of entitlement and the other thing that fatherless girls tend to do
00:42:25.180 i just i had it on the tip of my tongue and now i've forgotten it um oh they also tend to have
00:42:30.220 poor boundaries that's another thing that the father uh impresses upon a girl is a sense of
00:42:34.700 boundaries and how to protect her value so knowledge of her value and then also um a respect
00:42:40.940 for her value so that she has good emotional and sexual boundaries and a lot of these girls just
00:42:46.060 don't have it because the father's not there oh man you didn't write that washington post
00:42:50.860 or wall street journal article about masculine fathers raising high uh you know functional women
00:42:58.140 did you i did not one of the shockingly good uh essays from a mainstream media outlet i i i did
00:43:06.620 not and i'm not familiar with it um i've just done a lot of research into this on my own for
00:43:11.340 my own purposes and these are the conclusions that i've come uh come to yeah well i'm i'm
00:43:17.260 will defer to your wisdom on it and um you're you're mirroring a very well-written uh essay
00:43:26.940 from i can't remember if it was the wall street journal or the washington post uh oh wall street
00:43:31.140 journal masculine dads raise confident daughters can you maybe uh can you maybe shoot the link over
00:43:36.820 to arini so that i can get a copy of it i'd like to check it out yeah okay thank you she'll be
00:43:43.840 there now. It's a very, very good essay and relatively short. Yeah, I'd love to read it.
00:43:49.160 Thank you. There we go. It's in the chat. I got it. I've mentioned this before, guys, is that
00:44:01.180 at one point, at some point in your life, every man eventually is forced to realize that he
00:44:09.940 becomes the patriarch of the family. Now for most men this doesn't happen until your father dies
00:44:17.440 and you realize at this point that you are now responsible for your mother. For me it happened
00:44:22.740 a little bit earlier because my parents are divorced that I recognized I couldn't keep
00:44:28.580 relying on her as a mother. I needed to be her rock. There are too many men looking for that
00:44:38.500 mother figure guys you're adults now you need to cut the apron strings you cannot keep looking for
00:44:48.020 a mother you cannot treat every woman that you managed to seduce say to carry lead astray that
00:44:54.020 every woman you managed to do into your bed you can't treat her like a mother that's supposed to
00:44:58.860 take care of you it's quite the opposite when you take a woman into your life you are taking
00:45:03.760 responsibility for her. We need this male strength. Without this male strength, everything
00:45:13.680 falls apart. Everything becomes irresponsibility. And there's a lot of guys out there that are
00:45:19.820 so angry that women aren't being responsible in a masculine manner. No, it's your job to
00:45:26.560 be responsible. It's your job to be the rock. It's your job to keep going even when it hurts.
00:45:33.760 and without the patriarchy without men being fathers without that everything falls apart
00:45:46.000 and we have so little of that we have we have people demanding that women act but if you want
00:45:55.340 women to act better be a better man and tell the woman what the standards are for being in your
00:46:00.040 company. If you want a better society, stop begging for it. We are going to make the better
00:46:07.780 society. Thank you for saying that. It needs to be said. And John Steele in the comment section
00:46:18.080 says, growing up fatherless forced me to search out my true identity and transcend him. I'm not
00:46:23.720 sure if that's exactly what happens it's entirely possible that he's he's self-aware enough to be
00:46:31.080 able to tell the truth there but we are we are genetically and culturally um the descendants of
00:46:37.200 our father not just in terms of habits and behavior so if you don't you know transcending
00:46:44.200 your father is not something that we are are biologically capable of doing in in my opinion
00:46:49.560 anyways I think you really have to you truly have to reconnect with the father in in the
00:46:58.060 archetypal sense if nothing else yes and if not your your literal father um I actually discovered
00:47:04.520 your channel Davis um I want to say like six years ago thanks to your friend Aaron Clary
00:47:12.660 mentioning Jack Donovan and after following Jack Donovan a little bit he had mentioned to you at
00:47:18.020 some point and then i found your channel um if any guy out there has not read jack donovan's the
00:47:23.580 way of men um and in my opinion the even even better but but slightly more difficult uh book
00:47:31.760 king warrior magician lover by gillette and more those are great places to start for guys who
00:47:37.560 don't really have good relationships with their father yeah i second the second recommendation
00:47:43.900 king magician lover that's a really good book i second the first recommendation because i've read
00:47:49.300 the way of men myself i would like to read the second book so thank you for sharing that
00:47:53.020 both of them uh the way of men is excellent advice and the uh the the four archetypes of
00:48:02.620 what it means to be a man is something that you do need to understand i haven't read the second
00:48:05.920 book but i am familiar with the archetypes can you can you throw that in the chat as well because
00:48:12.400 that's another book for those and we'll put them into the chat certainly i will um if you're
00:48:17.420 familiar with the archetypes you probably understand the um the the premise pretty well
00:48:23.380 the authors go over the the positive and negative versions of both archetypes in both the child and
00:48:31.380 adult forms and where they come from their motivations and how to maybe move more towards
00:48:36.360 the positive from the from the negative and um even jack donovan and i'm sure that um matt forney
00:48:43.680 has um his his concerns with with jack um we can talk about that maybe maybe off screen i don't
00:48:50.480 want to say well i've been friends with i've met him known him years ago in real life i've got my
00:48:58.260 you know reservations about him but i think he's a solid guy yeah well one of the the shortcomings
00:49:03.880 that you could point out in the way of men after having read king warrior magician lover is that
00:49:11.480 he neglected more or less neglected the king archetype uh the the generative son archetype
00:49:19.640 and that's it sounds like that's the premise of his next book a more complete beast which should
00:49:26.960 be coming out soon so uh for those of you who like jack donovan's writings that's something
00:49:32.100 to look forward to. Chris, is it okay with you and everyone else if I expound on my comments
00:49:39.860 regarding transcending my father? Oh, absolutely. Yes, I actually did read that King Warrior
00:49:47.000 Magician Lover, and by transcending him, it was the most concise way of kind of explaining how
00:49:53.780 I was able to find masculinity, and that's kind of what I, the masculinity that would,
00:49:59.780 my father would have been in a normal state helping me um find for myself now you said that
00:50:08.460 in a way you cannot transcend your father biologically because you know he's part of you
00:50:14.240 that's true but as the uh the king warrior magician lover theory goes and i'm getting an echo from
00:50:21.300 somebody um i'm on mute anyway um the the i i read that book as well and uh that's one of the
00:50:32.420 books that helped me i would what i say transcend my father and by that like it's true that your
00:50:40.020 father is a biological component of yourself now for me this was i got to see this in real life
00:50:45.620 because I didn't meet my father till I was 21.
00:50:48.840 So it was fascinating when I did actually sit down with him,
00:50:52.900 by then I was a grown man, and see him,
00:50:55.260 and I realized just how much of who I am
00:50:58.220 was biologically predetermined.
00:51:00.040 Things like, not just appearance,
00:51:01.620 but things like mannerisms, the way we talked,
00:51:04.700 even he had this really strong interest in history as I do.
00:51:09.480 So that is true, but at the same time,
00:51:12.380 even though you are in one sense anchored to,
00:51:17.900 you know, by your genes because of who your father is,
00:51:21.040 you can still transcend that
00:51:23.580 because that's half of your DNA true.
00:51:26.280 But everybody is still born with a different temperaments,
00:51:29.060 you know, that lies the king, warrior, magician, lovers.
00:51:31.360 I call those temperaments, you know,
00:51:33.020 there's Oracle types or temperaments
00:51:34.440 and each one has a unique set of components.
00:51:37.980 But to become fully actualized,
00:51:40.200 need to you need to try to take the best of each and uh if if and there's there's a book actually
00:51:47.480 called mind os um it was written by a psychiatrist who uses those archetypes uh and carl young has
00:51:54.920 written extensively about this as well and you take the best of each of those archetypes and
00:51:59.240 you try to reach the center we're combining the best and losing the worst and that's ultimately
00:52:04.200 the journey to becoming a fully actualized human being.
00:52:09.040 I have some things to say on this.
00:52:12.060 My research into the Indo-European myth, my readings of the Babylonian myths, all of this
00:52:19.180 stuff, Rob Fedders wrote about some of this as well, that the striking thing that you
00:52:25.480 find is that when the Indo-European mythology moved north versus when it moved south, the
00:52:32.540 southern Babylonian versions of the Indo-European myth, you had every god was mated with a goddess
00:52:38.200 and to put it bluntly, he spent all his time sniffing after her pussy. They had no hard
00:52:44.720 theology. They had no hard relationships. The goddess was setting the tune and the god was
00:52:50.980 simply following her around. Yahweh was the only god that came out of that that did not have a
00:52:57.320 consort and stood on his own merit rather than pursuing the feminine. Now, when you follow the
00:53:03.700 Indo-European north and west into Europe, you find quite the opposite. You find the supremacy
00:53:11.280 of the Sky Father. You know, I posted this the other day on Twitter. I got a little bit of flack
00:53:17.060 from some people.
00:53:18.460 Dias Pater, Dias Pitar,
00:53:21.320 Uus Pater, Jupiter,
00:53:23.320 Dias, Deus,
00:53:24.880 Zeus, Deus,
00:53:26.560 Dagodewus, Tiwaz,
00:53:28.800 and Tyr.
00:53:30.600 And how much does that resemble?
00:53:33.280 Especially the oldest.
00:53:34.940 Dias Pater,
00:53:38.280 Pater,
00:53:39.240 Deus, Noster.
00:53:41.880 We
00:53:42.680 need
00:53:43.720 the Father God.
00:53:46.060 And I think that's what you're getting at, Steele, is when you, there's a good post by Quintus Curdius about don't be upset with your historical human, your heroes of history for being but men that made mistakes.
00:54:03.080 We all reach that period where one day we beat our father at chess.
00:54:07.360 We realize that he is but a man and he is flawed.
00:54:11.440 We need the father God, every single one of us.
00:54:15.960 And this is why I said this is a spiritual struggle.
00:54:19.440 This needs men of faith.
00:54:22.680 Well, you know, this harkens back to the conversation we had after my show last night.
00:54:27.360 Unfortunately, we didn't capture it on tape because it was an organic thing and it just came up.
00:54:31.760 Where one of the things I was describing that seems to be different about, you know, paganism, my spiritual beliefs and what I see in a lot of Christians.
00:54:38.540 and to use your word the way you defined it is you say Christians kind of carp
00:54:44.300 compartmentalize their religious or spiritual beliefs well you know the way
00:54:50.100 works for me and I don't want to speak for the pagans because part of kind of
00:54:53.120 being a pagan or you know embracing the Indo-European mythology is you don't
00:54:58.040 really you don't proselytize because it's part of it's part of your identity
00:55:01.300 what you are it's not simply what you believe in it's really visit this this
00:55:06.860 is the critique i have of the effeminacy in the church that yes many many many christians
00:55:13.180 compartmentalize things yeah i've brought up this whole issue with the 2276 in the the catechism
00:55:23.340 i've brought this up with a few christians and now my listen my priest he is dealing with it he just
00:55:31.820 didn't want to make a judgment right away of course he doesn't want to make a snap judgment
00:55:35.580 i don't blame him for that most of them just look the other way most of them i mean how often do
00:55:41.260 you see people going to confession in catholic church okay almost never and can i'm not worrying
00:55:48.460 about the splint in somebody else's eye while there's a beam in my own but there are people
00:55:52.220 i know should be going to confession and they don't because it's all compartmentalized they
00:55:58.780 don't look at the implications of any of this. They're not living the whole truth of it. And this
00:56:06.880 is just rampant in modern society. It's not just Christianity. How many people do you know that
00:56:18.740 behind closed doors will make jokes about other races, but then out in public are more than happy
00:56:27.580 to vote for the diversity candidates.
00:56:31.240 Yeah.
00:56:32.260 It's something I briefly wanted to comment
00:56:34.440 on what John said.
00:56:36.780 John, if I get you,
00:56:38.440 and I think if we're talking the same thing here,
00:56:40.620 basically what a lot of pagans do,
00:56:42.480 particularly in the Germanic forms of paganism,
00:56:46.060 is they live their mythology.
00:56:48.540 They live a myth.
00:56:50.280 The whole idea of becoming the hero
00:56:53.420 is very much a living mythology.
00:56:55.800 at least it is i'm working on titled that the european man needs to be a hero we need to be
00:57:06.220 beowulf and right now again i've talked to the the bicameral mind one half of us is dressing up
00:57:13.300 like freaking klingons and going to these uh these star trek conventions the other half of us
00:57:19.100 is turning into a little new like thunderfoot with no mythology whatsoever and the the european man
00:57:25.920 you need to be a real person but you also the only way you can be a european man is by living
00:57:32.640 mythology and being a hero exactly and the the the pagans i respect the most who aren't because
00:57:41.540 you're absolutely right davis it's not just christians who are succumbing to insincerity
00:57:47.300 their faith most pagans as i understand i haven't hung out in a great number of pagan circles but
00:57:54.500 from from my understanding most heathen or asatru groups out there are um even more cut than the
00:58:02.340 the average christian congregation these days but there are sorry i was gonna say as a member of the
00:58:09.140 heathen community i i can speak to that directly yes your observation is correct we call them
00:58:14.980 larpers in many cases uh they play viking and you know they they talk about doing viking stuff until
00:58:21.380 it's time to do viking stuff and then they don't show up right but but i was privileged enough and
00:58:28.100 i have no idea how i managed to do this but i was had the privilege of attending an initiation
00:58:34.340 ceremony for for um one of paul wagner and the wolves of inland one of their new members and at
00:58:44.260 no point in any of that ritual did they uh mention the word viking right they weren't doing anything
00:58:53.220 of that sort now they were all very well read in the history of their of their spirituality i i
00:59:02.260 suppose because it's not even the history of their religion they've sort of moved on to their own
00:59:08.660 religion, but it's very deeply informed by the religious tradition of Nordic paganism.
00:59:18.260 When I say viking and I use it in that way, I'm being facetious.
00:59:23.700 No serious heathen calls themselves viking. It was actually a verb anyway, to go a viking
00:59:29.780 was to go raiding. Oh, interesting. Yeah, it's actually a verb, not a noun.
00:59:34.820 okay well they you know they mock the the people who will put you know thorson odin shield or
00:59:43.260 whatever as their as their facebook name and their their profile pictures are just nothing but
00:59:49.780 you know instagram or or um random internet art of vikings and fenris and right they're larping
00:59:59.760 But I think I think Irini is right. The authentic and not just pagan, but the the classical Western Christian as well lives it out.
01:00:11.280 And there are some some interesting and visible cases of that from from both sides.
01:00:18.460 I would say that the the guy who wrote the foreword to my Augustus Invictus has done some some pretty has really put his neck on the line in a heroic fashion.
01:00:29.760 And I would say there are some Christians out there who are doing that in a similar way.
01:00:35.780 I think we need to have more conversations between the serious Christians who live their
01:00:40.300 mythology and the serious heathens who live their mythology, because ultimately we're
01:00:44.660 both Indo-Europeans.
01:00:47.360 Where there is a contradiction between faith and reason, one or both are at fault.
01:00:53.380 It was Aquinas that pointed that out.
01:00:55.020 One of the things that drives me, that frustrates me, I should say, about the, how to put it, those Christians that choose to blind themselves and follow what they think are the dictates of their religion.
01:01:13.880 The dictates of Christianity are to be as innocent as doves, but as wise as serpents.
01:01:19.100 This does not mean blinding yourself.
01:01:21.480 This does not mean doing precisely what the church tells you without thinking about it.
01:01:26.140 That's what Islam commands.
01:01:28.600 It is like that old song.
01:01:32.060 Even if you choose not to choose, you still have made a choice.
01:01:37.200 We are called upon to be wise.
01:01:40.480 And to put it frankly, you don't become wise without making a few mistakes along the way.
01:01:45.280 You know, the old Catholic Church was not afraid of calling many of the pagans virtuous.
01:01:54.460 There is Virgil.
01:01:57.320 Virgil was considered a virtuous pagan.
01:02:00.220 He was so virtuous that the Christian Church looked at him and said,
01:02:03.380 there's no way that this guy's in hell.
01:02:05.640 This guy's a virtuous pagan.
01:02:07.420 Same thing for Cicero.
01:02:09.440 Same thing for many, many others.
01:02:12.680 Fear of knowledge does not lead to erudition, does not lead to godliness.
01:02:20.680 yeah i couldn't agree more and one of the most one of the most um depressing spirits i i i feel
01:02:36.340 is creeping through our society is this fear of knowledge i don't even want to explore this topic
01:02:43.000 because the conclusions i might arrive at or even might momentarily entertain will put me
01:02:50.080 in jeopardy better leave that alone better not be too curious you nailed it not just within the
01:02:57.100 church okay there's meant like if the church if the church plays go along to get along everybody's
01:03:04.260 made in the image of god everybody we can't we can't be prejudiced against immigrants we can't
01:03:09.240 that is how the church dies that bishop that's saying he would be happy if all of the churches
01:03:14.620 in italy were turned into mosques to make the muslims feel more comfortable that is how the
01:03:19.480 truth dies and it's no different from the people that the moment you bring up the bell curve the
01:03:25.980 moment you bring up evolution who see that and say i can't watch that video i can't read that book
01:03:34.420 because i might become racist and it's more important to me that i be nice it's more
01:03:39.680 important that i get along it's more important that i be obsequious yeah that exactly that's the
01:03:48.000 the it's one of the things that has irritated me most about Sam Harris recently I still listen to
01:03:53.800 him from time to time um is he has occasionally taken this habit of questioning why someone would
01:04:02.180 take an interest in a particular field I think he asked that of Charles Murray why would you even
01:04:07.400 what would even drive you to this subject of demographics in the first place it's called
01:04:13.380 intellectual curiosity i actually started reading up on the end of european mythos not because i'm
01:04:19.220 friends with hate room because but because i was trying to research the cult of the bull that seems
01:04:24.500 to be very extent hollywood right and and it always irritated me and for a while my my de facto
01:04:34.180 response to that was well you never know what results may come of this perhaps the research
01:04:40.180 into the nature of the biology of race for example would put an end to racism that's
01:04:46.580 an entirely possible outcome it's supposedly likely from what i hear in academia um although
01:04:53.140 we're not allowed to find out dawkins dawkins wrote a very beautiful book called the ancestor's
01:04:58.820 tale where he likens it to the canterbury tales he based it upon that and what he did is he wrote a
01:05:05.380 history of evolution in the canterbury tales each chapter follows a different character in this
01:05:13.420 journey and so for the his version he wrote each stage of evolution that led up to us humans and
01:05:22.800 is an absolutely beautiful and poetic book okay dawkins has his flaws he has many flaws but this
01:05:30.200 book was absolutely beautiful. I'm reading a book about science and actually teared up at the eyes
01:05:36.160 at a few parts. And there's this one bit, I remember this with such great irony, where
01:05:43.300 Dawkins was writing about how humans are so very, very good at distinguishing race.
01:05:49.200 he took a picture of bush and and uh the you know conda lazy rice and the the other black guy that
01:05:59.800 was in his administration and he said like we look at that and we can call and pal thank you
01:06:06.780 and he said we immediately know that one of them's white and two of them are black
01:06:10.560 but then he said imagine you're an alien and just take a triangle from each of their forehead
01:06:15.800 that skin color there's almost no difference there so it's it's like we're programmed to
01:06:21.940 recognize race and then he commented we are so lucky that all of the when we split from chimpanzees
01:06:29.860 we are so lucky that all of those proto-humans went extinct we are so lucky that the only
01:06:39.640 extant humans are all genetically
01:06:41.900 equal.
01:06:48.100 Genetically equal in long distance
01:06:50.040 running, I assume he meant, right?
01:06:52.700 He said it
01:06:53.920 with genuine belief.
01:06:55.960 And he commented that how
01:06:57.820 terrible would it be if there
01:06:59.840 were substantive differences between the
01:07:01.860 races? If we had
01:07:03.140 Cro-Magnons wandering around,
01:07:05.860 if we had
01:07:07.000 the uh etc these things that are like halfway human some of them bury their dead but they
01:07:12.800 clearly don't have language i i have some bad news for for mr dawkins um science
01:07:19.680 very recent science has finally confirmed that there are in fact
01:07:26.860 substantial differences between men and women i don't know how we will deal with this i don't
01:07:36.260 I don't know how we will. It's a terrible, horrible fact. And I don't know how we'll get over it. But it's it's something we're going to have to deal with. Somehow.
01:07:48.920 Life would be much easier if there were no differences. Quite frankly, I would be very happy. You know what, if some signs came out tomorrow, proving that there is no substantive genetic difference between people, it's all environment. I guess those East Africans, they just like running a lot.
01:08:06.260 I would actually be very happy if that came out, because that would make life a lot simpler, wouldn't it?
01:08:12.080 I would be happy if somebody could show to me that the Pope was just being quoted out of context and the guy's not a heretic.
01:08:18.440 That would make me absolutely ecstatic.
01:08:24.840 Yeah, not to be too, you know, debating for debate's sake, but I think the complexity and the conflict in many ways makes life more fun, too.
01:08:34.880 you can look at it i suppose in either way but i suppose i enjoy the conflict and the debate
01:08:42.540 um a great deal and the and the the complexity and constantly having to learn new things and
01:08:48.960 sort out reject old views it makes in my life a challenge yeah it's like intellectual weight
01:08:55.980 lifting you know and you get strong you get stronger by doing it it's kind of part it's
01:09:00.940 of being on the journey too don't you agree that the heroes yeah the hero's journey that's
01:09:07.020 that's a constant uh theme throughout the indo-european mythos absolutely and well put
01:09:13.340 there would be there would be no men there would be no heroic men if there wasn't a need for
01:09:18.700 heroism that's right and i think that we need that as europeans because europeans have this uh
01:09:26.140 unique quality at least i think it's unique to strive to really strive for some type of ideal
01:09:33.020 you know they they've always been the explorers both physically mentally spiritually seeking
01:09:38.940 after some ideal yes that's so true that you said that i'm glad you brought that up that
01:09:43.900 harkens back to something i had said once before i believe in in one of david's streams about
01:09:48.940 if you look at you know the great explorers you know from shackleton to columbus to or just the
01:09:55.580 the whole idea of how indo-europeans came to dominate all of europe you know they stretched
01:10:01.500 out in all directions you know starting in the caucasus and went north east west south um i think
01:10:08.400 there's something uh true about that and that's that's you know part of our identity by the way
01:10:14.800 we got a super chat from dashing rogue where he points out that dawkins also said there are
01:10:18.820 benefits to cannibalism wonderful well i do recommend that book the ancestor's tale it's
01:10:27.660 very beautiful and very informative but i agree with what there is this yearning in the european
01:10:36.460 soul for exploration this romanticism uh you know just imagine being there with your horse
01:10:45.260 and your rifle and your loyal hound and going off into the the wilderness you know home home
01:10:53.080 on the range yeah and just not to sound too preemptively defensive but that this is not to
01:11:01.400 even to say that europeans are therefore better than any other group because there's no metric
01:11:10.380 that you could use to to compare the two that we just are this way i was talking to a very intelligent
01:11:17.260 uh chinese friend of mine and i was asking him why in chinese history was there not a warrior
01:11:24.780 aristocracy as there was in european history and he said well chris what you have to understand is
01:11:30.460 that the chinese invented crossbows 2500 years ago and with a crossbow an untrained peasant could
01:11:37.500 take down a warrior with 20 years of training so the warriors no longer were were needed really for
01:11:45.180 the retention of political power and so they developed these bureaucracies and chinese
01:11:50.860 societies make marvelous and very effective bureaucracies uh us europeans are not as good
01:11:58.300 at that we uh we westerners have only recently figured out through mathematics what the asians
01:12:05.100 have known in zen buddhism and daoism for a very very long time yeah and that's not to say that
01:12:10.940 the chinese are better than us we're just we are different and and there's there's fascinating
01:12:17.020 things to learn from both but we have to pay attention to what we are what our own nature is
01:12:23.180 if we want to live the best life that we can before that the human races are more distinct
01:12:29.820 from one another than the aliens on star trek are because at the end of the day the star trek aliens
01:12:35.740 are basically just following different philosophies right the ferengi are a little bit greedy and the
01:12:41.860 klingons are a little bit douchebaggy but the human races there's this absolutely amazing
01:12:47.820 diversity i'll tell you one of the things that i'm most proud of with the european race
01:12:52.480 is that we did not genocide the Native Americans.
01:12:56.820 We could have.
01:12:58.380 2,000 years ago, 4,000 years ago, we probably would have.
01:13:02.220 And yet we didn't.
01:13:03.480 We didn't treat them as well as maybe we should have.
01:13:06.260 But we did not genocide them,
01:13:08.560 and their wisdom is still extant upon the earth for us.
01:13:13.500 There is so much knowledge you can get
01:13:19.040 from encountering a people different from your own.
01:13:22.480 And we have this rich tapestry of humanity.
01:13:27.580 And monsters on the left that call us Nazis want to eradicate it.
01:13:33.200 Well, they don't understand what folkism is, right?
01:13:36.020 I identify as a folkish heathen.
01:13:38.960 And folkism is the preservation and celebration of one's own people and culture
01:13:45.440 and a respect also for the same in other cultures.
01:13:49.180 You know, I want every culture on this planet to be preserved and celebrated and sustained and furthered, but it's when we start to corrupt that, you know, multiculturalism tends to have a corrupting effect, whereas when we have these homogenous societies, we can retain, you know what I'm saying?
01:14:15.540 And then we can truly visit and share.
01:14:17.780 Right. We can exchange ideas. We can trade while still maintaining those boundaries that keep our culture intact.
01:14:27.020 Davis, you brought up an interesting point about how we were less cruel to the Native Americans than the historical precedent would have left a theorist to imagine, we could say.
01:14:41.700 Well, the Native Americans genocided the race that inhabited North America prior to their arrival.
01:14:48.460 Oh, certainly. But we could have wiped them out, but didn't, was the point that I thought you were making.
01:14:55.280 And this is entirely speculative. This is just an off-the-cuff hypothesis that occurred to me now.
01:15:01.900 But the way that we killed the majority of them was not intentional. It was through disease.
01:15:08.960 And the reason that that disease killed the Native Americans and not our Anglican and German ancestors was because we had already been through that a few years before with the Black Death and with a variety of other diseases that festered and bred in cities and urban areas.
01:15:32.660 And I wonder how much of the compassion we evidently had for them had to do with familiarity with the suffering of disease.
01:15:42.300 This is just a speculative hypothesis, but I'm curious about your thoughts on that possibility.
01:15:48.700 My old history prof wrote a book strongly arguing that, yeah, it was what took over North America was not malicious intent.
01:16:00.160 It was, first of all, something like 90% of Native Americans died completely unintentionally through disease, leaving all of this land that was – imagine a game of Civ V where a bunch of cities get destroyed, but all the farmer's fields are still all prepared there.
01:16:20.220 It's very easy to settle those lands.
01:16:22.200 Second of all, because it was primarily Britain that took over North America.
01:16:26.020 Britain, being a small island, had developed the most advanced form of property law ever seen on the planet.
01:16:33.160 British property law demands that the land be put to use.
01:16:37.780 So in Britain, if you had a lord that had inherited some land, but he was leaving the land fallow because he was getting drunk in Paris,
01:16:48.740 and some dirty peasant started a farm on that land,
01:16:52.640 you would get squatter's rights for the peasant
01:16:55.220 because he is making use of the land.
01:16:57.940 And that, plus the financial speculation,
01:17:01.660 create this huge expanse westward.
01:17:04.400 In fact, the British authorities did not want to expand westward
01:17:08.300 because this requires more expenditure on troops
01:17:11.120 to keep the people safe whenever people move westward.
01:17:14.660 But this advanced property law,
01:17:16.260 So you get the depopulation plus this advanced property law that just screams the land must be used productively creates this westward explosion, despite the fact that the authorities actually didn't want to do that during the settlement of North America.
01:17:34.440 For the British crown, it was a pain in the ass having to expand westward.
01:17:38.720 But the land speculators, the homesteaders, it demanded that.
01:17:46.260 I'm trying to recall, there was a discussion between Jordan Peterson and somebody, I can't
01:17:56.100 remember, but they brought up that very question of who has the rights to a piece of property
01:18:03.200 in an instance like that, where somebody owns the property, but they've allowed it to just
01:18:08.380 fall into disrepair, and it's all overgrown, and then somebody comes in and transforms it
01:18:14.440 into a beautiful garden, you know, mixes their labor with the land and cultivates from that
01:18:19.880 something of beauty, something of value. Does the property owner actually own it? Or
01:18:26.320 does the person who applied his labor and made something beautiful and useful out of it own it?
01:18:35.280 And I mean, I would be in agreement with the English on that, you know.
01:18:40.080 And the goal of the English was, again, it's such a tiny little island.
01:18:45.380 If the English did not make the best use of their land, then they couldn't sustain a population.
01:18:51.020 You know, the population of Britain is larger than the population of Canada.
01:18:58.300 That is mind-blowing.
01:19:02.300 It's amazing how much waste we have in the modern day.
01:19:05.440 You know, you take a look at a typical suburban neighborhood and we have these huge, sprawling lawns, you know, and it's really nothing more than a vanity.
01:19:14.600 You know, that land isn't being used for gardening or raising animals or any anything.
01:19:21.680 You know, it's it's just there. You know, it's there to mow.
01:19:25.520 Someone actually said on Twitter, sorry to interrupt, but that lawns are now an expression of white racism.
01:19:32.100 i think they're just an expression of vanity really i i think you're absolutely correct i
01:19:39.480 just finished um bill bryson's book on home uh a couple weeks ago and he was going through the
01:19:47.640 origins of lawns and what what lawns were were an expression of the english aristocracy of
01:19:55.920 all the land that they didn't need to cultivate food on they were wealthy
01:20:02.800 enough to to expend an extraordinary amount of money at a time where there
01:20:06.920 weren't lawnmowers having workers cut these things with sides to remarkably
01:20:13.140 straight levels I mean it's hard to get a nice lawnmower level cut without a
01:20:17.760 lawnmower is the the degenerate bourgeoisie trying to imitate the wealth of the nobility
01:20:27.840 and this case it's like i've always despised front lawns one of the things i really love
01:20:32.960 about vegas is that because grass just dies there you have uh rock gardens
01:20:40.400 back in ontario i used to really admire people some people instead of having a front lawn
01:20:45.520 would grow heather and other types of non-labor intensive plants on the front line it's very
01:20:53.840 beautiful i admire those because it's it's such a oh goodness what's an equivalent like uh you
01:21:02.960 you know when the the lower middle class people start affecting something that used to be very
01:21:08.320 expensive and it just looks trashy like a cubic zirconium or something yeah that happens with
01:21:15.040 names a lot yes yes uh britney you know britney starts off as an upper class name and then the
01:21:21.760 lower class starts adopting the name britney to sound upper class and so it's no longer enough
01:21:26.000 a class name by the way a super chat of 10 from ec 2189 kaku euro american history is riddled with
01:21:33.520 beautiful accidents and tragedies the further expansion the freer and more independent the
01:21:38.560 operation they diffused guns on each other before pointing them at the settlers yeah like this this
01:21:44.800 narrative that evil europeans stole the land from the noble savages is listen there's our there are
01:21:53.200 amazing things uh what like this is really blows blows me away it's um people that are actually
01:22:00.000 interested in political history look at the what they call the six nations the seven nations that
01:22:07.440 without a system of writing the native americans in the like near the great lakes actually formed
01:22:14.320 a coalition government. That is mind-blowing. It's absolutely phenomenal. And it was a major
01:22:20.300 inspiration for the founders of the American Republic.
01:22:23.420 Well, and they also did one of the greatest acts of genetic engineering in history by
01:22:30.840 domesticating corn. The nearest genetic relative to corn is a species of grass that looks nothing
01:22:40.120 like corn or maize, as it's known among the natives, and corn actually cannot survive in
01:22:46.160 the wild on its own. It has to be cultivated that way in order to stay around. And the fact
01:22:53.680 that they did that, as great of feats in genetic engineering as what the Europeans did with dogs
01:23:00.580 and sheep and cows and aurochs and other things, that's quite an accomplishment as well.
01:23:06.500 and you know i know jared diamond gets a lot of flack and rightly so i have to say he says
01:23:13.440 maybe we should have a discipline called history yeah it exists you idiot but he does make a
01:23:20.140 excellent point about biota that the the maze of north america with with indo-europe indo-europe
01:23:27.780 eurasia when you domesticate something in one place it very quickly spreads east and west
01:23:35.720 because you get similar climatic conditions the whole way.
01:23:39.920 Whereas with North America,
01:23:41.080 because there's primarily a north-south alignment,
01:23:45.040 there, yeah, you can domesticate maize here
01:23:47.660 and you can just domesticate the alpaca down there,
01:23:51.620 but it doesn't spread.
01:23:54.100 So the, shoot, was it the alpaca?
01:23:56.380 Anyway, one of those weird North American herd beasts.
01:24:01.300 One of the reasons that the Incan Empire, thank God,
01:24:04.460 did not spread very far is because they did not have pack animals down in peru they had
01:24:10.640 domesticated a pack animal that would have been perfect for the incans or sorry for the aztecs
01:24:16.560 now it's like the incans domesticated it the aztecs didn't have it it would have been perfect
01:24:20.960 for the aztecs but in between the two regions was this vast gulf of tropical climate where the
01:24:27.660 animal could not survive. And so Jared Diamond is correct about that. The north-south axes of
01:24:35.140 North America did inhibit the social development of the native peoples. We got another super chat
01:24:45.320 for 17 and 76 cents. And, oh wait, did we have more? No, I think that's, brothers and sisters,
01:24:54.900 we are gathered in conscience hey guys i as a black man feel good about what you say
01:24:59.700 yet i feel weirded out and isolated by the euro talk listen to you sporadically for years
01:25:05.140 you know i haven't said much about the blacks on this stream but i
01:25:09.920 listen i i think everybody can agree that the blacks are the coolest race
01:25:15.120 there is
01:25:18.920 I find the black race very refreshing
01:25:22.760 they are a very unpretentious race
01:25:25.600 let me share you a story
01:25:29.460 I'm going to share this story
01:25:33.080 not to brag about myself
01:25:34.700 but because
01:25:35.680 I think
01:25:37.480 talking to somebody about charity
01:25:40.240 and this conspicuous charity
01:25:42.840 I really despise it
01:25:43.840 i don't like conspicuous charity one time i was coming out of uh the food store uh in nashville
01:25:48.920 and this this man approached me an older white man and he said i'm sorry to bother you but i'm
01:25:56.700 very hungry do you have anything you can share with me and now listen guys i was not in a good
01:26:01.660 financial state at the time but like this guy's hungry he wasn't asking for money he was asking
01:26:06.040 for food i'm like listen i can give you like here's a tin of meat i can give you some bananas
01:26:10.880 I can give you something, right?
01:26:13.860 I wish I could give you more, but I can give you something.
01:26:16.520 And I gave it to him, and he said, thank you, and he wandered off.
01:26:19.420 Right after that, a little old black lady walked up to me and said,
01:26:23.920 sir, I saw what you did.
01:26:25.480 God bless you.
01:26:28.320 I'm the one you shared that story with.
01:26:31.280 Black women seem to be the most divisive demographic in the United States,
01:26:37.760 from my experience.
01:26:38.440 They are either irredeemably obnoxious or the wisest and kindest people you will ever meet.
01:26:49.000 That's a fair observation.
01:26:50.940 If you were in a philosophical mood, I suppose you could argue that blacks are in many ways the most Nietzschean race out there in terms of their intuitive nature.
01:27:04.160 But the thing, and I understand why a black American might be a little weirded out by hero talk.
01:27:11.960 But the point is that I think if all of us were black for some reason, I don't think any of our politics would be any different.
01:27:19.980 You know, the cultures we would be looking back to would be very different.
01:27:23.720 You know, we would be reading about Anansi and the trickster spider and things of that nature and Shaka Zulu.
01:27:31.380 but but the the game is Shaka Zulu right now but the care about connection with
01:27:42.840 who you are and with your people and with your inner nature is a universal
01:27:48.060 thing now every group is going to have a different manifestation of it and I
01:27:53.640 would wish the same thing for blacks and and black Americans who are different
01:27:58.640 than African blacks, as I would for my own children. Not to the same degree, because we
01:28:03.400 obviously have obligations to family first, but in the abstract sense, I would hope that everyone
01:28:09.580 would get that same sense of connection with their history and their culture and their identity.
01:28:15.520 Absolutely. I mean, that's what folkism is. You know, that's what I was talking about a little
01:28:19.060 bit earlier, preserving everyone's unique culture. One of the things I've said,
01:28:26.060 What really infuriates me about the democratic story sold to the black underclass who have been turned into an underclass is the lack of heroism in black history.
01:28:40.100 There is so much heroism there.
01:28:43.440 My primary, I don't know if I could call him a musical inspiration, but yeah, I could.
01:28:49.140 Actually, I could.
01:28:50.580 Is John Coltrane.
01:28:52.700 I absolutely love that man's music.
01:28:54.560 I am not a fan of Miles Davis, even though I'm pretty sure I was named after him.
01:29:00.320 I absolutely love Coltrane.
01:29:02.220 I've taught myself to play several of his solos.
01:29:05.740 I have a whole book of his solos of giant steps.
01:29:09.380 Like, it's nothing but giant steps in every single solo ever recorded.
01:29:13.200 There is a great deal of heroism in black history, which is erased and denied.
01:29:20.820 And quite frankly, when we look at the contemporary events, the Pizzagate, the Hollywood and whatnot, some of the people that are really coming up to the forefront and standing up for the truth are blacks.
01:29:34.860 A lot of people are being frank and open about what's involved with the rap game.
01:29:41.440 And just like we have a couple more super chats.
01:29:42.920 I need to get to these.
01:29:43.660 Gregory W. Trump
01:29:49.020 SS says, if your goal was to become the most
01:29:50.900 extreme cringe LARP ever to defame a
01:29:52.900 politician at a political rally, would you
01:29:54.980 dress up as a QAnon supporter?
01:30:00.720 Alright, I'll say this about QAnon.
01:30:03.060 Obviously.
01:30:05.060 I will say this, that
01:30:06.540 I do think there is something
01:30:08.880 there, but I'm very
01:30:10.000 trust the plan
01:30:11.840 and
01:30:13.480 implicit, do nothing, very much worries
01:30:15.700 me. I think Trump is doing very
01:30:17.620 good things. I think we need
01:30:19.720 to be taking advantage of this opportunity
01:30:21.600 to start
01:30:23.260 networking, start forming communities.
01:30:26.700 We've got Jet
01:30:27.580 Leave for Life, 5164.
01:30:30.860 He says,
01:30:31.560 oh no, sir, I did not mean it in the negative.
01:30:34.580 Did I miss an earlier
01:30:35.560 super chat from him? He was
01:30:37.520 mentioning how the European talk
01:30:39.160 weirded him out
01:30:41.440 a little bit and isolated him.
01:30:43.480 and we were talking about how look you know the the the true connectivity doesn't come across
01:30:50.920 racial cultural ethnic and religious boundaries although we're having a bit of a spiritual
01:30:55.960 ecumenical talk here but it comes from connecting with your your inner nature and that applies to
01:31:02.200 to whites and to blacks alike and so he was coming back and saying oh i didn't mean that in the
01:31:06.600 negative so okay glad glad to hear it because again this is the one reason i can't get on
01:31:14.380 board with the white nationalists is this this pipe dream of if america were completely white
01:31:23.340 and you know what maybe you can argue that it would have been a very good idea not to
01:31:27.580 import slaves well they did and that's our history where do we go from here
01:31:33.160 um ec2189 kaku sends us five dollars says yes davis blacks are still cool to the super chat
01:31:39.720 gentlemen west endy folk claiming they invented hip-hop when it's a black american invention and
01:31:44.920 so is jazz okay rock and roll and jazz directly stem from the african rhythm uh listen europeans
01:31:52.040 did amazing thing with things with music but we always did the one two beat the blacks put the
01:31:57.960 emphasis on the second beat and a whole new genre of music developed in north america
01:32:03.480 because of this african rhythm yeah don't forget blues full uh folk or not folk funk soul all of
01:32:11.880 that the the major division between country and rock and roll like they're both typically these
01:32:20.040 days they're white forms of music but country follows the original one two one two with the
01:32:26.440 emphasis on the one whereas rock falls one two one two with the emphasis on the second beat
01:32:36.200 there's there's some uh musical history for you guys yeah yeah a friend of mine actually a white
01:32:42.920 nationalist friend of mine greg johnson recently found a um uh an article on they've apparently
01:32:49.880 discovered what ancient greek music more or less sounded like and recreated i posted the link in
01:32:55.400 the group chat here send me this link this is guys we have no record of what music looked like
01:33:01.400 before 1600 or so i i posted it in the uh hangouts group chat i it's not letting me post it in the uh
01:33:11.320 message there's a video there's a video that i posted i was searching for this while you were
01:33:15.480 talking when uh when you were talking about the native americans where we could have slaughtered
01:33:19.880 them and there's an interesting um clip i posted in there i'd like you to take it take a look at
01:33:24.920 when you get a chance regarding the music uh they used a completely different scale the ancient
01:33:32.520 modal scale is different from the major minor scale that that came into being yeah i guess
01:33:38.680 would be around the 15 or 1600s and there was also different frequencies that were used for
01:33:44.120 the tuning like we now tune uh middle a to it's 440 hertz but it used to be 432 which is supposed
01:33:52.200 to be uh in harmony with the universe whereas 440 is not it's actually dissonant
01:34:00.360 interesting yeah major question i've had for a long time about whether or not the
01:34:08.200 placing of the tuning is arbitrary or meaningful oh it is meaningful and uh if that's something
01:34:15.480 that you're interested in i would encourage anybody to just google 432 hertz versus 440 hertz
01:34:22.200 And you'll find some very interesting information out there on that.
01:34:27.900 Don't expect me to speak, because I'm typing this into a search bar.
01:34:30.920 Okay.
01:34:33.220 Yeah.
01:34:34.480 As I've often told Irini, I don't like to give people knowledge.
01:34:39.140 I like to point where the knowledge is and let them discover it for themselves.
01:34:43.880 Well, then they value it more.
01:34:45.900 Exactly.
01:34:46.660 They turn over the stone and they find it for themselves.
01:34:49.220 but that's that that what you're talking about is the the 432 hertz you're saying is is more in
01:34:55.860 harmony with with nature that's kind of harkens back to earlier we're talking about the importance
01:35:00.900 of uh you know connecting with our past not to over indulge in it but to connect there's
01:35:05.940 wisdom in the ancients absolutely well and here's a research project for any um uh linguists or
01:35:14.100 psychologists who might be listening, you can do some some
01:35:18.340 data searches on the most prevalent phonemes and sounds
01:35:21.720 in particular languages, and see if you can find any
01:35:24.220 correlations between music styles, and the sounds of the
01:35:28.220 languages that produce them. I feel like that could be an
01:35:30.740 interesting research project.
01:35:33.240 Yeah, very much so. I can see that. Something else that you
01:35:37.000 will discover when you start looking into the 432 hertz
01:35:41.520 tuning is that all of the pitches in the scale numerologically reduced to either three, six,
01:35:49.060 or nine. You just linked me to a video that was quite fascinating. Oh, you watched that
01:35:57.120 about the number nine? Yes. Let me, here we go. Here's the link. I'm tossing it down into the
01:36:03.760 chat for you folks. We could do a whole show on that. Yeah. I'm really wondering what happens
01:36:10.140 when you put it into something other than base 10.
01:36:13.260 Yeah.
01:36:14.040 Because these...
01:36:15.220 They're sacred numbers is what they are.
01:36:17.720 The ancients knew that these numbers were sacred.
01:36:20.920 Well, this is one of these things that must come from intuition
01:36:24.220 rather than from...
01:36:27.360 Because there's no way that the ancients,
01:36:29.460 when they were coming up with the 360-degree Babylonian scale,
01:36:34.500 understood this.
01:36:35.580 One of the things the moderns have tried to do
01:36:37.280 is change from the 360 degrees to a 1,600 mil system.
01:36:44.140 This is what the military uses, and I don't like it.
01:36:46.860 I like 360 degrees.
01:36:49.240 And there seems to be something a little bit existential
01:36:53.420 about this number.
01:36:56.640 And so it has me wondering,
01:36:58.200 if you switch to a base 8 numbering system
01:37:01.020 or a base 13 numbering system,
01:37:03.320 would you still be finding these patterns?
01:37:06.440 i don't have the answer to that i am there i may work through the math i was gonna say maybe you
01:37:12.520 should run that experiment and see what you find well the only reason we have a base 10 number
01:37:18.520 system is because we have 10 fingers well we it actually might not be that the the this video
01:37:24.760 about the number nine that i just linked it's guys one of the things that comes up is the
01:37:30.600 fibonacci sequence and if you take two layers of the fibonacci sequence you find a mirroring
01:37:36.120 of three sixes and nines and it's an infinite all the way through the fibonacci sequence
01:37:42.600 three sixes and nines just keep occurring like this is not just here's an interesting artifact
01:37:49.480 of the base 10 numbering system this is good lord why the hell is there this much correspondence
01:37:57.000 like this is so something else that i would challenge anybody here to do if they're curious
01:38:03.480 and you can go on YouTube and Google this, there's plenty of samples,
01:38:07.340 is listen to a piece of music played in 432 hertz tuning
01:38:13.300 and then listen to the same piece of music played in 440
01:38:16.960 and tell me which one resonates with you more.
01:38:21.200 Is there a video where we can do that?
01:38:23.600 Yeah, just Google it on YouTube.
01:38:25.900 There's a lot of people who have actually recorded it on a guitar
01:38:29.140 or violin or something like that.
01:38:32.380 But just compare them and just see what you resonate more with as an organic being.
01:38:40.540 Interesting.
01:38:41.920 $5 Super Chat from JetLeafForLife15164 says,
01:38:45.720 I first learned of you 10 years ago, Davis, in my conspiracy days.
01:38:50.320 Yeah, speaking of conspiracies briefly, this, for some reason, this came up.
01:38:55.620 Red State, Red State Magazine, which is a major conservative source.
01:39:00.840 Did you know that about five years ago, they wrote an article accusing me, and also Bernard Chapin, I believe, but they accused me of being a conspiracy theorist because I wrote an article referencing the fact that the 94 World Trade Center bombing was a setup by the FBI who gave the guy real explosives but false detonators.
01:39:23.960 And, like, guys, it's mainstream history.
01:39:25.960 It's reported by the New York Times.
01:39:28.760 All right?
01:39:29.060 referenced this and got called a conspiracy theorist
01:39:31.400 by those scumbags at Red State
01:39:33.060 and they also I believe intentionally
01:39:35.540 misspelt my name so that I wouldn't
01:39:37.300 notice
01:39:37.760 oh they are scum
01:39:41.320 I think I wrote something
01:39:43.260 about it I don't care about Red State
01:39:45.000 and we got a super chat from
01:39:47.340 EC2189 Kaku
01:39:49.200 journey and discovery is a lost
01:39:51.420 experience in our postmodern world
01:39:53.000 it's reduced to
01:39:54.080 repugnant
01:39:56.660 a repugnant corporate excursion
01:39:59.020 paved asphalt pathways fearing inquiry because risk of alienating from the group yeah yeah nobody
01:40:06.320 people are so afraid to stand out there's a great video by the alternative hypothesis
01:40:11.760 asking if minecraft was the symptom of a dying society because it's the only place young boys
01:40:18.260 can go to explore yeah and going back to the the conspiracy theory thing for a moment um one of the
01:40:26.020 amusing things about the the claim that someone is a conspiracy theorist is that the the term is
01:40:33.940 when you when you actually think about it is enormously broad so many theories qualify as
01:40:40.540 conspiratorial in the technical sense that the argument is essentially unfalsifiable which is
01:40:45.860 the the reason why conspiracy theories are generally dismissed ironically enough is that
01:40:52.500 they cannot be falsified or disproven they're just wild claims that you know we could go on
01:40:59.620 for years coming up with but you know claiming that someone is a conspiracy theorist rather
01:41:07.560 than saying oh they made x claim and it's false because of y reason you know the former is just
01:41:13.680 so much easier and it sounds so much more salacious than the latter and it's intellectually lazy
01:41:21.440 Exactly.
01:41:22.680 Yeah.
01:41:24.220 Well, just one more thing on conspiracy theories, just to throw it in there, anyone who's interested, is there was a documentary produced called – it's either The Noble Eye or A Noble Eye regarding Oklahoma City.
01:41:39.180 And it's similar to what David was talking about, the 9-11 – not 9-11, but the World Trade Center bombing that happened.
01:41:46.360 I think it was actually 93 or 92, David, is when that happened.
01:41:49.200 I could be wrong about you.
01:41:51.460 Well, I lived in New York at the time, so I don't even know.
01:41:53.960 But this is about Oklahoma City where they actually did have a federal source inside LOM City, which was kind of a Christian identity, identitarian group or whatever.
01:42:11.880 And you can Google Andy the German, I think is what it was, you know, and all of that.
01:42:17.700 But it's quite fascinating.
01:42:18.900 and none of this was really covered but if you're interested i believe you can see the whole video
01:42:22.660 on youtube a noble lie you know one thing i will comment is that there is there is something to the
01:42:32.260 conspiracy mindset personality and i've unfortunately run into a lot of these people
01:42:36.760 and what it boils down to with these guys is that they want to feel like they're smarter than the
01:42:42.820 people that are trying to trick them and so they will sit around in their garage with their buddy
01:42:48.820 drinking beer and talk about these conspiracies but they won't do anything with it right like the
01:42:56.280 point of like they're talking about how the government has you know ufos are visiting the
01:43:02.040 government okay well what are we going to do about this what are the ufos are the ufos are they
01:43:08.540 weather satellites are they russian spy probes are they demonic manifestations are they visitors
01:43:14.520 from another what are they and what is that's my question about the whole bloody thing so the fact
01:43:20.020 that they don't act on it means they have no skin in the game exactly exactly they want to have a
01:43:27.020 little whispered conversation you know what they brought me in for a conference to see what i
01:43:32.540 thought was a patriotic symbol and i knew that they were doing that so i took their money but i gave
01:43:37.440 in false answers dude they were designing a beer commercial and they wanted to go i am canadian
01:43:43.680 what's the best patriotic symbol that's all it was
01:43:47.660 so unfortunately i have met a lot of these people there are a lot of people that got they they
01:43:56.780 you know penn and teller did a fairly good episode where they talked about how these ufo hunters
01:44:02.400 really they just want to hang out with some people and have and have hot dogs and tell
01:44:06.380 scary stories to one another and it's it's very frustrating when you run into these guys
01:44:11.880 um because there are actual conspiracies out there and they i think when we talk about them
01:44:18.520 we're trying to look into them um dashing rogue says he just got back from the berkeley protest
01:44:23.500 thank you for your prayers davis and hey through yeah uh dashing rogue was up to something
01:44:28.160 um i'm not sure exactly what he was up to today but he managed to survive without getting pepper
01:44:34.660 sprayed or locked in jail. So I'm glad he's still here. And Gregory W. Trump SS sends two U.S.
01:44:42.140 dollars. And by the way, Dash and Roe, we're going to probably get you on to talk about that next
01:44:47.240 week. Gregory W. Trump SS says, is American citizenship worth less than Canadian? No.
01:44:56.600 Yeah. Well, it depends a great deal on what you mean by worth, right? Which one is more exclusive?
01:45:04.660 which one gets you more stuff i think in the long run um i mean i suppose you could go in a lot of
01:45:12.580 different directions on that but um if your gauges which one is more meaningful in terms of defining
01:45:19.220 you as a member of the group i it looks to me like at least for the moment um you know canadian
01:45:28.820 citizenship is worth slightly more now with trudeau in the lead that might get corrected
01:45:35.620 next year too listen our canada has been completely overrun with our equivalent of h1bs
01:45:43.860 really okay my understanding is that they still had a ways to go to catch up to the
01:45:48.180 united states but that they were in the process of making that correction
01:45:53.860 you know i know what the stats say and i know what i see day to day
01:45:57.920 And what I see day to day is you go to any fast food restaurant, you go to any gas station, you go to.
01:46:04.160 The only place where I see white people working is at the grocery store for some reason.
01:46:10.280 And none of them are kids.
01:46:11.740 It's all people that are 30, 40, 50 working.
01:46:16.200 You go to any gas station or fast food restaurant, it's Indians and Filipinos working.
01:46:22.020 Well, you go to the city of Vancouver, which is not far from where I live.
01:46:25.740 You might as well be in Shanghai.
01:46:27.140 yeah that city has the nickname hongcouver because hong kong chinese have bought up all the property
01:46:34.600 in it and there's neighborhoods where you have to speak cantonese well there are similar stuff's
01:46:40.700 going on in seattle um not terribly far from where i currently live um there are whole neighborhoods
01:46:47.280 that i remarked to some friends were looked like suburbs of cairo or or other parts of north africa
01:46:54.260 the middle east just from the the language of the signs and the people walking around in long robes
01:47:00.660 and small hats we also have a a massive african immigration now i i will say that these up until
01:47:09.380 the refugee crisis we they're actually pretty good africans okay they're they're not they're not like
01:47:15.780 the refugees are absolute garbage human beings okay it's all men running away from their countries
01:47:21.940 because they couldn't get laid there
01:47:23.460 because they were too big of a loser in Africa to get laid.
01:47:26.940 The ones that we had come to Calgary over the past decade or so
01:47:31.820 are actually high-quality, church-going family men and women.
01:47:37.100 But still, it's a massive, massive demographic change.
01:47:41.380 Would you consider good Africans to be better or worse than the bad Africans?
01:47:46.560 I think we started talking about the New York Times
01:47:49.780 and they're interesting standards for hiring high iq asian women with a with a grudge on their
01:47:54.980 shoulder but many of these high highly intelligent immigrants particularly the ones from india at
01:48:03.140 least here in the northwest where where indian immigrants are just absolutely taking over have
01:48:08.500 taken over i'm sorry the tech industry and they're very functional and they're very um as a group
01:48:16.580 intelligent and but but the fact that they are functioning well doesn't mean that they
01:48:22.260 integrate well in our society i i know it's actually in a way it's worse i was on steel's
01:48:28.420 chat uh last i think it was last night pointing out that what i want is more degeneracy for the
01:48:35.780 left and less degeneracy for us the worst thing in my opinion is when you get functional degeneracy
01:48:44.100 when everybody's smoking pot when everybody's having casual sex right no longer have the bad
01:48:50.500 examples if we could reorient politics to help concentrate oh you you liberals want to smoke pot
01:48:59.380 you go right ahead here's all the pot that you want we're going to legalize it meanwhile we're
01:49:03.780 going to have a whole bunch of ad campaigns calling potheads loser degenerates okay that
01:49:08.980 That would be far, far better than this state of affairs where everybody smokes pot.
01:49:14.880 And if you had a small number of quality immigrants, you know, good Lord, 30 years ago in Canada,
01:49:22.740 if you immigrated here, you were told where you were going to live because the Canadian government did not want ethnic enclaves.
01:49:32.080 So I have a friend from South Africa.
01:49:34.120 he was told you are going to live in calgary for the next 10 years because we don't want you south
01:49:39.820 africans even though you're white we don't want you moving into one neighborhood and speaking
01:49:43.760 that gobbledygook fake english that you speak we want you climatizing and coming canadian i'm sorry
01:49:50.840 to interrupt but but i need to jump off for a family matter i'll try to rejoin if i can okay
01:49:55.300 all right god bless you thank you bye see you good luck with that see you later
01:49:59.720 so yeah in a way it's actually see the refugees are you know they're blowing up people and
01:50:07.260 murdering kids at cafes and whatnot you know like this is actually nice and straightforward
01:50:11.840 right it demonstrates what's going on whereas the good quality ones it's as individuals of
01:50:18.640 course i prefer them as a demographic shift it is terrifying and by the way two dollars from
01:50:25.540 ec 2189 kaku the tinfoil cap produce the tinfoil cap can produce crazy a historicist mindset
01:50:34.100 they tend to cower away from academic methodology or basic epistemology in which these theories
01:50:38.740 warrant such objectification you know dude one of the guys claimed that faster than light travel
01:50:45.780 was possible because he once was driving across australia and he took in the 12 it took him three
01:50:52.820 hours to do a 12-hour journey and like this is really autistic but i got all upset because i'm
01:50:58.680 like buddy even if i take that at face value that doesn't prove faster than like travel
01:51:05.000 no epistemology to these people
01:51:12.500 yeah the the comment you were making about south african immigrants being divided among the city
01:51:20.800 was an interesting one um my wife was telling me based on what she's read that not terribly long
01:51:26.960 ago in the united states history immigrants were not just told where to live and prevented from
01:51:32.000 forming ethnic enclaves but inspectors would come around and make made sure that they were eating
01:51:37.660 mashed potatoes and gravy and roast beef not whatever ethnic food they had been used to eating
01:51:43.700 and that they were setting the table in the american fashion the integration was really really
01:51:49.120 thorough. And the concern about ethnic enclaves is not even relegated to the
01:51:55.480 modern age. Back in the 1750s, I want to say, Ben Franklin was extremely
01:52:02.140 concerned that Germans would not integrate with Anglican society, which
01:52:07.000 the United States was forming around an English culture. He said they won't
01:52:11.480 acclimate, they'll never truly become Americans. And many Americans are
01:52:18.660 inclined to think well that's clearly wrong would it would it hilariously sort of backwards opinion
01:52:24.480 to have but interestingly enough to to this day particularly in pennsylvania there are populations
01:52:30.580 of german uh dutch or german people who don't speak english they speak german and who fundamentally
01:52:39.900 don't understand the rights of englishmen and the constitution and bill of rights based around it
01:52:46.020 that our civic culture has been built on.
01:52:50.120 You know, it was actually Benjamin Franklin who wrote about that.
01:52:54.040 I'm sorry, did I say someone other than Ben Franklin?
01:52:56.260 No, I don't think you said any name.
01:52:58.440 Oh, okay. I meant to say Ben Franklin, yes.
01:53:01.800 You know what, it's as if dad says to his kids,
01:53:05.620 you know what, you can't trust just any dog
01:53:08.020 because they might be dangerous.
01:53:10.040 And he cautiously approaches a dog,
01:53:11.800 and the dog turns out to be okay.
01:53:13.580 so the kids decide that all dogs are safe.
01:53:17.380 The Germans and Polacks and Italians more or less integrated.
01:53:24.320 They certainly did shift the culture of America quite a bit,
01:53:27.400 but they integrated quite well overall, all things considered.
01:53:34.820 Nobody in my family speaks Italian since we came here.
01:53:38.600 My great-great-grandfather was the last one to speak Italian.
01:53:43.580 We all learned English.
01:53:45.800 But that doesn't mean the caution was not due in the first place.
01:53:51.020 And today, I'm sitting at Starbucks,
01:53:53.580 and these three kids walk out babbling at one another in Korean.
01:54:02.120 And they were not tourists.
01:54:03.700 yeah it's um it's definitely the demographics are definitely shifting and
01:54:17.380 you know to to the people who think that you know race is only skin deep and it really doesn't
01:54:23.160 matter it's all cultural even if you presume that that's all true the basic uh social trust
01:54:33.680 built on simply looking like other people around you is quantifiable and and scientifically rather
01:54:42.060 well attested to that alone would be enough to warrant um you know ethnic homogeneity and it
01:54:50.700 would apply to to you know having similar haircuts and dressing similarly too of course which is also
01:54:55.820 part of having a shared culture even if it was 100 cultural and zero percent genetic which it's
01:55:03.300 it's not that's not what the evidence points to anyway even if it was that the fact of the matter
01:55:08.200 is that we are not inducting these people into our culture we have so many
01:55:14.040 part of the issue is that europeans tend to be extreme extremely empathic and you can you know
01:55:26.660 hbd chick has written quite a bit about this it goes uh it goes back to traditions of cousin
01:55:32.140 marriage and what have you that we learn to empathize with our neighbors very well and the
01:55:39.540 way that we bred with one another instead of creating the very strong patriliteal lines that
01:55:43.860 you get in the middle east create a very diffused sort of genetic basis and so even though the the
01:55:51.620 city on the other side of the hill had they spoke a different accent from you and a slightly different
01:55:56.260 culture you were actually very mixed with them genetically so we are very very empathic towards
01:56:02.980 others and that is not necessarily the case with all other races not to the same degree
01:56:10.100 as us and so we want to imagine that we can we can blend with no problems that people are moving
01:56:19.780 to north america to become north americans and in some cases they are but in many cases
01:56:26.980 they are moving here to be an ex that lives in north america and you know what i i'd actually
01:56:33.940 like to see more talk from the black community about new african immigrants because the the
01:56:41.140 blacks that live in america have earned their place in america they've been there for centuries
01:56:45.620 they've got a blood claim to the soil and right i think if you talk to them they'll point out
01:56:51.940 that these new african immigrants just because they're my skin color does not mean that they're
01:56:57.240 my people there was a there's a great presentation for american renaissance back in 2014 i want to
01:57:05.420 say it was given by a um a comanche chief i forget his name um but he described the frustration
01:57:14.480 of being a warrior culture at war with another warrior culture and he said something to the
01:57:21.680 effect of warrior cultures respect strength so we fight you for 400 years and we fought hard
01:57:29.060 we fought for our life and you guys fought hard and eventually finally after centuries of conflict
01:57:35.920 you guys won okay fair enough but you're letting us live here we're a conquered people but we
01:57:43.620 there was 400 years of serious conflict and and you guys earned that with blood in the soil
01:57:51.160 but now you're giving
01:57:53.180 what you conquered to these other people
01:57:55.180 for nothing
01:57:56.060 we won't let this happen
01:57:58.540 this is an insult
01:58:00.340 to the 400 years of
01:58:03.260 conflict that we shared together
01:58:05.280 it's one thing when you're conquered
01:58:07.260 by a badass but when you're conquered
01:58:09.080 by a bunch of SJW purple
01:58:11.180 haired balloon animals
01:58:12.900 and by the way Jet Li for Life
01:58:15.300 5164 says
01:58:16.640 oh fucking thank you
01:58:18.400 I guess that
01:58:21.020 made sense i'm glad it did yeah it's
01:58:24.940 what the hell happened to us that we abandoned our warrior roots what the hell happened to us
01:58:35.520 that we're a generation playing video games and playing uh playing video games and reading comic
01:58:41.580 books and and how many of us have been in a damn fistfight you get into a fistfight these days you
01:58:45.680 go to prison that's not white culture well not not to to sound uh maybe contradictory and this
01:58:54.260 is a little devil's advocate with my own position but um uh dr kevin mcdonald gave a presentation
01:59:01.840 a year or so back on the origins of white people and he talked about the the blending of the
01:59:07.980 indigenous european people with the semitic farmers further south with the indo-european
01:59:13.760 peoples who rode in and the dominant indo-european culture was a very warlike culture but one of the
01:59:19.880 things about warrior cultures he said was that they're very meritocratic they're not very
01:59:24.980 ethnocentric they're not very tribalistic as a group you would expect it not to be the case
01:59:30.460 but in a warrior culture you need people who you can trust to fight you need the best people to
01:59:36.900 fight so meritocracy wins out over family just an interesting have you noticed that the
01:59:44.760 blending of whites and amerindians there's like it tends to go without real notice
01:59:52.400 right like people have to go out of their way to point out well i'm 116th native american
01:59:58.020 or i'm well it's it's always struck me the native american whites actually blended pretty well and
02:00:05.020 This is complete speculation, but there does seem to be quite a bit of the warrior culture.
02:00:13.500 You're hitting on Robert Piercing's hypothesis.
02:00:16.900 I think it was in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, but Robert Piercing suggested that perhaps American culture is the product of the blending of European aristocratic ideals with the Native American nobility,
02:00:34.280 The strong and silent cowboy archetype, that's more Native American than it is European.
02:00:40.540 Europeans never valued the strong, silent.
02:00:42.700 That little whistle in the background while the red man stares the eagle.
02:00:49.960 Yeah.
02:00:50.940 You know, an interesting historical fact.
02:00:54.180 Thomas Jefferson's son-in-law was part Native American and took great pride in it.
02:01:00.940 and um i believe he had eight children with jefferson's daughter and uh jefferson found
02:01:08.900 this commented on this how um someone who was part native american was kind of deemed with
02:01:16.240 a little bit of awe while if you were part african you weren't yeah i'm more or less with
02:01:26.160 david sarini on the point that he brought up earlier which is that you know if you want to
02:01:30.800 ask what's a racial american the question almost doesn't make sense but ethnically speaking i i
02:01:37.740 think you could say honestly an ethnic american would include anglican and german whites but
02:01:45.640 would also include native americans and the descendants of black slaves specifically
02:01:52.040 I don't know if there's any way around that.
02:01:56.020 We've got a super chat from EC2189KAC who comments that Jeet Kune Do is an American warrior philosophy.
02:02:04.560 And listen, go back to the history of Canada for a moment.
02:02:08.100 Canada did not used to be the country of free health care and socialism and nicety.
02:02:15.360 Canada used to be the country.
02:02:16.520 the way we achieved independence was that we are polite because you have to be polite in the frozen
02:02:23.320 north otherwise you die and we are we would sit around and we would you know build our moose
02:02:31.600 lodges and whatnot and then wait britain's getting into a war we would my regiment actually started
02:02:38.620 up because we heard there was a war happening in south africa nobody in canada knew what the hell
02:02:44.500 south africa was we didn't know who the boors were we didn't care a bunch of private businessmen
02:02:50.860 raised money to create a regiment so we could go down to south africa and kill people because
02:02:57.020 canadians like killing people and we are very very good at it doesn't the canadian still hold the
02:03:03.640 record for long distance sniper kill uh i believe we do actually that happened in afghanistan it was
02:03:12.420 this is an interesting not true story that you brought that up i know a little bit about this
02:03:16.460 it happened in afghanistan but uh with a 50 caliber round and it was done by a canadian
02:03:22.020 sniper who was on loan to a special forces unit uh but he did it with american ammo the canadian
02:03:30.460 ammo didn't work well the reason i'm no i'm not kidding there was i saw a documentary on this and
02:03:36.120 the reason it is the
02:03:38.920 longest sniper shot is it took place at
02:03:40.800 extreme altitude, so the air
02:03:42.820 was very thin. So the
02:03:44.880 moral of the story is to
02:03:46.500 buy American, but hire Canadian.
02:03:49.700 Yes. Let me tell
02:03:50.980 you something.
02:03:52.060 I saw an interview with the sniper and he was talking
02:03:54.760 about that, that the
02:03:56.040 Canadian ammo
02:03:57.600 wasn't making it, and then he switched to
02:04:00.820 the American .50 caliber
02:04:02.740 round, and that's what he got the kill shot with.
02:04:04.660 It was the longest confirmed kill.
02:04:07.020 Well, listen, I had my copy of Soldier of Fortune
02:04:09.660 and whatever the popular Toronto newspaper was at the time.
02:04:15.620 Soldier of Fortune titled the article,
02:04:18.100 World Record Sniper Shot Performed by Canadian Soldier.
02:04:22.640 The article, which appeared on page 20 of the Canadian newspaper,
02:04:28.160 was titled, Canadian Ammo Falls Short.
02:04:34.660 so yeah i've actually got a real chip on my shoulder about this yeah canadian sniper
02:04:41.160 it's the what was it 1.8 kilometers or something ridiculous like that
02:04:45.480 eventually take a guy out and instead of praising this hero the canadian press took a shit on the
02:04:51.760 canadian military as usual well it's the polite thing to do obviously
02:04:56.200 when you see all this uh you know the mounties dealing with the native americans and uh treating
02:05:08.160 them with respect and whatnot that's the two warriors coming at each other with respect the
02:05:13.220 old rcmp used to be these lunatics wearing bright red british uniforms and riding horses around
02:05:19.980 two days away from civilization
02:05:21.860 and still showing up
02:05:23.920 and using this British
02:05:25.680 politeness and tea
02:05:27.740 like oh it's time for tea here
02:05:29.820 in the middle of the woods
02:05:30.860 that's a warrior mentality
02:05:33.760 that was Canada and
02:05:35.600 Trudeau Sr. completely whitewashed it
02:05:38.080 well and what's
02:05:39.880 interesting this sort of ties in
02:05:41.940 with the ethnic ecumenical
02:05:43.640 theme we had going a little
02:05:45.980 bit earlier I've read a number of
02:05:47.940 these books American special
02:05:49.840 forces people have written American Spartan uh the Marcus Luttrell one uh where men win glory
02:05:57.840 about the football player um not that one in this particular case but there are all these stories
02:06:04.320 of American and Canadian and other special forces soldiers the sort of manly men that Davis you were
02:06:10.560 alluding to earlier us meeting and they go over and they come into contact with the Pashtun
02:06:16.560 tribes people who are usually not isis or taliban they're just they're just tribesmen doing their
02:06:24.140 thing and in many cases they feel more at home in that culture than they felt at home in the
02:06:33.120 american culture they had left from which is sort of an interesting thing that there is a there is
02:06:39.120 a brotherhood in
02:06:41.000 the warrior groups, even
02:06:42.920 on the other sides of the
02:06:44.480 battlefield, that
02:06:46.740 those warriors don't necessarily feel at home.
02:06:49.280 And I'm not sure if that's just an interesting observation
02:06:51.200 or if it's a problem
02:06:52.380 that we need to figure
02:06:55.160 out. Kaku comments, the Canadian
02:06:57.120 bullets are polite, Davis. Top
02:06:59.060 10 is better than none.
02:07:04.060 Yeah, it's
02:07:04.940 actually, there's a huge number of Canadians
02:07:06.940 in the mercenary field.
02:07:09.120 A lot of Canadian soldiers, like, our military is completely underfunded, but we do have very, very good soldiers.
02:07:16.900 And I don't, I'm not saying this with disrespect.
02:07:19.600 Listen, the American military, you guys got all the toys and all the bells and whistles.
02:07:23.840 There's a lot of Canadians that go into mercenary work afterwards simply because Canadians are very psychologically oriented towards war.
02:07:33.000 It's why we're so polite all the time, because guys that know how to kill each other don't mouth each other off.
02:07:39.120 And, you know, to address Chris's point, I believe possible explanation for what you were describing, you know, Canadian American warriors feeling at home with the Pashtun tribesmen is because our society no longer seems to value the warrior caste, as it were.
02:07:57.220 right uh i i think so and your your sword display for your avatar seems to fit very nicely with
02:08:05.860 davis's comments about the politeness of warrior cast the samurai were immaculate in their etiquette
02:08:13.060 um right but even even including the act of killing you they would be very polite about
02:08:19.300 i think it's part of the reason people really like like anime in these circles it will partly
02:08:24.820 because it has that warrior ethos in it but also because anime has not been deracinated all of our
02:08:31.620 media has been bleached of meaning like transformers is designed not for an american audience it's
02:08:37.860 designed for a global audience so there's no there's no mythology in it anymore there's when
02:08:45.620 you read beowulf you are steeped in mythology and history when you watch anime you are steeped in
02:08:52.100 mythology and history but with our modern storytelling it's just so empty it's robots
02:08:58.820 and explosions and that's all it is well it's the most generic type of mythology they've taken any
02:09:05.220 sort of a real identity out of it and a lot of that is is purely just dollars and cents because
02:09:11.060 they want to appeal to the chinese market because it's the largest well i think the people making
02:09:17.220 this entertainment, making
02:09:19.200 the art for our civilization, don't
02:09:21.240 know what our civilization is.
02:09:24.980 And we
02:09:25.520 could go into triple brackets if you
02:09:27.240 want to, but...
02:09:28.780 What?
02:09:32.180 What?
02:09:33.020 I think I just saw a racist fly
02:09:35.260 through the room.
02:09:38.860 But yeah, this is not European art.
02:09:41.760 I mean, even...
02:09:43.140 Star Wars is one of the best
02:09:45.180 examples, and yet it is so
02:09:47.200 shallow.
02:09:49.280 Star Wars, listen, Luke's car,
02:09:51.280 it's great, okay? But you
02:09:53.320 scratch past the surface and there's nothing
02:09:55.500 there. It's just a patina.
02:09:58.100 It's gold-plated.
02:09:59.980 It's not solid.
02:10:02.440 It's just a
02:10:03.440 worse Tolkien.
02:10:05.480 Exactly. Now, you do
02:10:07.420 get the American cowboy mythos.
02:10:09.260 You get Unforgiven, absolutely
02:10:11.200 amazing.
02:10:13.080 There's a lot of really great cowboy movies.
02:10:15.820 Three tens of Yuma.
02:10:17.200 oh yeah
02:10:18.840 it was enjoyable
02:10:19.900 that was
02:10:22.360 in my opinion one of the best westerns
02:10:25.140 to come out in the last 10 years
02:10:26.460 you know one of the sad things
02:10:30.840 with the
02:10:32.780 so there's this
02:10:34.960 place where I buy my cigarettes
02:10:36.900 and I get along I really like the staff
02:10:39.220 there and
02:10:40.760 I was joking about how
02:10:42.720 you know
02:10:44.100 how Justin Trudeau needs to
02:10:47.120 be put to death by breaking on the wheel
02:10:49.020 for being a traitor to Canada.
02:10:51.060 And she responded to me, you can't
02:10:53.040 say that. Like, yeah,
02:10:55.120 I fucking can. It's Canada.
02:10:57.380 I can say anything
02:10:59.100 I want.
02:11:00.880 I even said, there's a white guy
02:11:02.940 in line behind me. I'm like,
02:11:04.960 do you think freedom of speech covers me saying
02:11:07.040 that Trudeau should be tried for treason
02:11:08.800 and then broken on the wheel?
02:11:10.780 And he's like, he was kind of shocked,
02:11:12.800 obviously, but he's like, well, yeah, that's
02:11:14.820 freedom of speech.
02:11:17.120 I don't know if – I'm familiar with your Canadian laws.
02:11:21.160 You don't really have freedom of speech, at least is how Americans define it.
02:11:24.800 No, but Canadians think we do because we come from the same European tradition.
02:11:30.620 Yeah, freedom of speech, it's enshrined in the Constitution of America,
02:11:34.820 but freedom of speech has a very long history throughout Europe.
02:11:40.460 Look at what happened in the UK. It's completely gone.
02:11:43.840 Well, last I checked, the UK is not white.
02:11:47.120 This is a lovely woman, I really like her, but she is not Canadian.
02:11:56.120 Well, this is one of the things I've noticed that brought me around to the idea that the descendants of African slaves are American.
02:12:06.120 I spoke at one of the Northwest forums, which is an event associated with counter-currents.
02:12:13.120 And the time that I spoke, there was a member of an organization known as Hope Not Hate in infiltrating in attendance, and he wrote a long piece about it.
02:12:25.140 And he was interviewed by NPR.
02:12:26.480 He was from Sweden.
02:12:28.240 And when he was talking with NPR, he said, oh, these people should not be allowed to say these things and so on.
02:12:33.540 And there was another European woman, I think the same week, who said more or less the same thing.
02:12:40.240 These people should not be allowed to say this.
02:12:43.120 And the same week that both of these people were giving their reports on the alt-right and so on, there were two black guys, both Americans, giving a talk on this.
02:12:53.140 And one of them was a TED Talk. One of them was interviewed on This American Life, who was a former Proud Boy and a friend of Gavin McGinnis.
02:13:01.740 And both of them strongly disagreed with the alt-right and what it stood for and its values and all this stuff.
02:13:08.100 but both of those black guys were coming at the issue from the perspective of look i get why these
02:13:14.520 angry white guys or whatever uh i get why they're frustrated and yeah well and they're but and they
02:13:23.380 strongly disagreed and they wanted to stop it but their solution was to have the debate and to what
02:13:30.620 was respectful of the freedom of speech in a way that these white europeans were not respectful
02:13:38.780 of freedom of speech and i when i saw the juxtaposition of the european versus the
02:13:45.660 american attitude somewhat somewhat transcending the racial thing and this is not to say that race
02:13:50.300 doesn't matter but there's another dimension to national identity that these these two black guys
02:13:57.760 understood at a subconscious level even that these europeans just did not i've got another
02:14:05.920 super chat from ec2189 kaku also canada got crazy animation personal opinion that's repressed urge
02:14:13.380 to kill tv hockey and firepower keep you guys warm royale debatable
02:14:18.560 it's i mean yeah canada is quite cucked out these days but it's there um you know i was
02:14:29.500 toying with an idea i never wound up writing this article but blood nationalism that you need to
02:14:36.760 tear sweat and blood is what earns you the right to a land and so few of us are putting that in
02:14:46.280 One of the things that, you know, I don't really want to shit on Cantwell, but I'm going to.
02:14:53.280 One of the things that bugged me is he had this whole segment on his radio show where they were telling, you know, racial jokes about, look at blacks, they're so stupid.
02:15:01.740 I'm like, dude, why are you doing that?
02:15:03.700 Why?
02:15:06.100 What is the constructive product of this?
02:15:10.260 do you have so little
02:15:13.860 love of your own race that you need to attack
02:15:15.920 another race to feel any love
02:15:17.760 for it
02:15:18.220 it's deeply unproductive
02:15:21.800 and it's cruel
02:15:23.060 and I'm sorry I don't want to be part of a
02:15:25.800 cruel race that treats others
02:15:27.660 like lessers
02:15:28.380 yeah
02:15:31.700 absolutely and
02:15:32.920 a sort
02:15:35.800 of protege of Cantwell's
02:15:37.720 who I'm lucky
02:15:39.760 to have as a as a friend an acquaintance who's gone another direction is a guy named dave martell
02:15:46.320 um yeah that's what i tell him every time i talk to them um but he he sort of started off with
02:15:56.640 cantwell back when cantwell was more of a libertarian but rather than going the super
02:16:02.880 like the the natsock route he he went what i think is possibly even a more far right route which is
02:16:11.200 like i'm going to focus on family and start making my friends meme about sunday night dinners with
02:16:17.680 family and talking about spirituality and and really directing the gaze inward rather than
02:16:25.040 outward and that seems to have taken him a lot farther than it has can't well just from an from
02:16:30.880 an outside observer's perspective well and i've been lucky enough to have hate broon join me
02:16:38.720 and folks i've been alluding to this this is the direction that we're heading in
02:16:42.560 okay this is not sargon of a cod this week in feminism stupid this is not let's go get
02:16:48.240 a tiki torch rally half of you guys are going to go to prison but i'm going to feel like a hero
02:16:52.560 uh guys we are this is not just we're commenting on things that are going on in the world
02:16:58.400 we are trying to build something we are trying to build it for you and with you that's what we're
02:17:07.980 doing and it's gradual process nothing big to announce just yet but it's coming to become
02:17:15.300 better men ourselves becoming real men ourselves and networking and taking care of one another
02:17:22.540 you make the leader look good and he can take care of you uh super chat from gregory w trump
02:17:28.280 SS Ernie how many never used tiki torches do you own i i own more skulls than i own tiki torches
02:17:37.800 let's just leave it at that yeah tiki torches are great for barbecues um something i can uh
02:17:45.320 say on that point uh erini is we did have a moot yesterday um my local folk and i and we are moving
02:17:53.480 forward with some initiatives and i'm going to share that with you uh so um offline you know
02:18:00.120 you and i can discuss that so some things are moving forward guys my hand is finally at the
02:18:05.720 point where i can type again they pulled the pins out oh i haven't told you guys this i i told you
02:18:10.840 steel on your stream i don't know if everyone heard it though so i go in for surgery well not
02:18:16.520 even surgery i go in and it's like yep okay and he just grabs a pair of pliers and pulls the pins
02:18:21.320 out of my hand with no warning it was terrifying it didn't hurt it just like i felt the tug
02:18:29.160 obviously because the things are embedded in my finger bones but he just pulled the damn things
02:18:34.340 out with the flyer with flyers i said to the guy afterwards like jesus christ here i was worrying
02:18:39.400 that there was the plague was going to hit before our appointment and i was going to be trying to
02:18:44.360 cut down the swaths of locusts with my bastard sword with one hand because i could i could have
02:18:49.460 pulled these damn things out myself?
02:18:51.460 They said, well, I would have preferred that you didn't pull them
02:18:53.520 out yourself. So,
02:18:55.400 pins are out of my hand. I still
02:18:57.580 don't have that much mobility. The hand is very
02:18:59.660 stiff, like the first two knuckles
02:19:01.500 feel a little gluey, like there's
02:19:03.500 something slowing them down.
02:19:05.800 But I can type again,
02:19:07.620 which means you're going to be
02:19:09.380 seeing a little bit more of me online, and
02:19:11.720 that I am going to
02:19:13.480 finish that book that
02:19:15.500 I'm writing for you guys.
02:19:17.160 well that's good to hear uh always good to keep your hand unlike tier or mucius scabola or any
02:19:25.280 of those other hand sacrificers their industry here was although i will confess after while i
02:19:31.060 was waiting for the ambo to show up with the two broken fingers i was thinking to myself
02:19:35.680 how awesome would it be if my whole hand got torn off and i still managed to do this
02:19:40.640 there was a great story and i have to get going after this but there was a fantastic story of
02:19:47.080 an australian surfer who was accosted by a shark rather roughly uh took his leg off and supposedly
02:19:57.240 the story he was telling the helicopter pilots who pulled him out was that he had wrestled the
02:20:02.980 leg back from the shark and then beat the shark to death with his own leg that is excellent the
02:20:10.140 the helicopter pilots didn't believe it they believed he was delusional took him to the
02:20:15.940 hospital and he you know
02:20:17.680 stitched him up
02:20:19.000 later
02:20:21.020 I want to say a couple days later
02:20:23.640 in a routine patrol
02:20:26.060 they found a shark
02:20:27.360 that appeared to have died from blood force
02:20:29.860 trauma to the head and they're like my god
02:20:31.960 I think he might have been telling the truth
02:20:33.740 I don't know
02:20:35.580 that as fuck
02:20:36.980 we've been going for way too
02:20:40.000 long because this conversation has been great
02:20:41.980 so yeah Christopher
02:20:43.920 thanks so much for having me it's been
02:20:45.760 an absolute pleasure talking to all of you um and i look forward to seeing the work you guys do in
02:20:52.020 the future excellent there's a link down below to um now he's running on you do you write exclusively
02:20:59.780 on countercurrents i wrote i write mostly for my own blog at caffeine and philosophy
02:21:04.960 uh.com and i've got one book out a second book coming out hopefully before september we will
02:21:13.420 see about that okay i'm gonna edit the links down below i only have a link to your countercurrents
02:21:18.380 articles but okay we will link to those and by the way i didn't even realize that you were caffeine
02:21:23.020 in philosophy oh yeah that's that's uh that's me the best drug and the most fun pastime hey through
02:21:32.460 you have any final thoughts uh another great chat was a pleasure meeting you christopher
02:21:38.300 and i'm definitely going to check out your website um the website for my folk building
02:21:43.180 effort here in pittsburgh is called the free folk and you can check us out at freefolk.org
02:21:49.900 learn a little bit more about indo-european philosophy folkway and spirituality and what
02:21:55.020 we do here and uh yeah i'll be bringing more information to arini's show about that as it
02:22:01.020 unfolds oh man your website looks even better than mine well you know i'm a professional designer so
02:22:07.900 that kind of helps we'll definitely check that out thank you uh steel you've started live streaming
02:22:15.100 again fairly regularly haven't you uh yes i have after a lot of cajoling from friends like yourself
02:22:21.100 i've gotten back into it you can find me on youtube john steel show excuse me john steel
02:22:27.900 show into the youtube search engine and my channel will pop up and i'm going to be interviewing uh
02:22:33.340 hadron soon now that your computer apparently is back up and running because we had to put that
02:22:38.180 on delay yeah so we'll have to when we get offline we'll hopefully be able to schedule that
02:22:43.920 and his twitter is john underscore steel 99 yes and uh for me you have some sort of like writing
02:22:53.320 website or something right yeah it's called terror house magazine terror house mag.com
02:22:58.140 twitter.com slash terror house mag we got a big announcement related to uh to terror house that
02:23:02.920 I know I've been teasing this for the past
02:23:05.680 couple weeks, but we'll finally be
02:23:07.680 ready to make this announcement
02:23:09.080 possibly tomorrow, definitely
02:23:11.300 before the end of this week.
02:23:13.180 Go to terrorhousemag.com, twitter.com
02:23:15.260 slash terrorhousemag. Also mattforney.com
02:23:17.640 and youtube.com slash user slash
02:23:19.380 real mattforney.
02:23:21.020 May I say one more thing? Yes, please.
02:23:23.880 I just want to thank everybody who's
02:23:25.700 keeping my mom in their thoughts and prayers.
02:23:27.600 I greatly appreciate it, and I know she would too.
02:23:29.800 She is a Catholic, so
02:23:31.520 So, you know, anybody who wants to pray in the traditional Catholic tradition for her, I know she would appreciate that.
02:23:40.160 Guys, thank you to everybody that joined tonight.
02:23:42.800 I think it was a great conversation.
02:23:44.260 That's why it went too long.
02:23:46.980 There, there's a caffeine and philosophy tossing to the chat.
02:23:49.760 I will edit the description below to add that as well.
02:23:52.980 God bless all of you guys.
02:23:55.880 Keep the faith and stick to your guns.
02:23:58.420 you know keep your powder dry and you know the meek shall inherit the earth i've talked about
02:24:05.260 this before meek does not mean the weak when it was written meek meant those that knew when to
02:24:13.020 keep their swords sheathed and knew when to draw them it's not time to draw our swords yet we don't
02:24:19.760 need another charlottesville but guys every single one of us here we know what's coming
02:24:26.800 so Deus
02:24:29.200 Volt
02:24:30.040 Marini out