Leo D.M.J. Aurini - June 24, 2017


Without Beauty There is only Lust


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

93.04878

Word Count

1,667

Sentence Count

84

Misogynist Sentences

1


Summary

Part two in my response to the documentary Why Beauty Matters by Roger Scruton. In this episode, I talk about the difference between lust and love, and why the love of God is not a selfish, selfish love.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Music
00:00:27.760 Music
00:00:30.000 So this is part two in my response, my reaction to the documentary Why Beauty Matters by Roger
00:00:43.740 Scruton. And in this video, I'd like to talk about one form of beauty, one form of love,
00:00:54.120 eros. That without eros, without true eros, all we have left is lust. And eros is very,
00:01:09.520 very lacking in this world.
00:01:11.260 You know, a long time ago, probably 20 years ago, I ran into this article saying that couples
00:01:26.240 were going to Italy, they were going to the Louvre, to look at these Renaissance artworks,
00:01:34.000 these religious artworks, to reignite the flame in their marriage. Now, these weren't erotic
00:01:43.100 artworks that they were looking at. These were spiritual pieces. One of them, as I recall,
00:01:52.680 was Mary being informed by the angel that she was going to be the mother of Christ.
00:02:04.000 These were non-erotic images. And yet the expressions on those people's faces, on Mary's face in
00:02:18.080 that sculpture, had a very erotic quality to it, an orgasmic quality to it.
00:02:29.660 Now, I don't, and I don't think noting this is at all vulgar.
00:02:40.920 Not in the least.
00:02:44.800 In fact, I don't think the news report I saw on it remotely did it justice. It was, there's the truth,
00:02:52.660 you know, shouting at you, and you can't hear it because somehow you got it into your head,
00:02:59.640 that because something is religious, it must not be sexy.
00:03:07.420 In my last video, my last video I noted, and by the way, I'm also stealing this from C.S. Lewis.
00:03:15.380 He talks about this in his book on pain. I forget the specific title right now, but
00:03:22.100 C.S. Lewis, the meaning of pain, something like that.
00:03:28.840 At one point he starts discussing, are there pains in heaven?
00:03:33.640 Is there pain in heaven?
00:03:35.580 And he starts reflecting on the fact that beauty is often very painful for us to look at.
00:03:45.360 But it's a wonderful pain.
00:03:48.080 And so surely that sort of pain is also present in heaven.
00:03:51.540 And then he reflects deeper, that there are so, so many of these feelings.
00:04:02.640 Terror, for instance.
00:04:06.160 Now, if you've ever been in a dangerous situation, or you had an animal attack you,
00:04:12.820 you know that visceral grip, that cold bolt of ice on your gut, that just strikes you.
00:04:26.180 In fact, it comes before knowledge.
00:04:28.840 You are scared of the animal before you're even fully cognizant of the fact that there's an animal,
00:04:34.200 before you can process that there's an animal attacking you.
00:04:37.160 This instinctive, emotional response comes immediately.
00:04:40.600 But then there are these religious emotions.
00:04:48.340 And all these religious emotions seem to mimic these physical emotions.
00:04:58.200 There is something terrifying and comforting about being in the church.
00:05:10.600 You know, many philosophers have talked about the awe of nature, of a hurricane.
00:05:20.700 That it's not just that a hurricane is frightening.
00:05:23.080 It is awful.
00:05:26.440 It inspires awe.
00:05:28.180 It is so much grander than us.
00:05:31.340 We apprehend it on this much, much greater level.
00:05:35.020 And so, so many of these spiritual feelings that we have.
00:05:47.940 The terror of a ghost.
00:05:50.120 How strange is it?
00:05:52.800 How strange is it that people are terrified of death?
00:05:59.180 Not terrified of dying, but terrified of the dead.
00:06:04.560 Terrified of ghosts.
00:06:07.080 These immaterial beings which can't, how can they hurt you?
00:06:14.140 You know, being scared of a tiger makes sense.
00:06:16.740 Being scared of a ghost is kind of weird.
00:06:19.880 And it's a different form of fear that we feel for it.
00:06:32.500 And the love of God
00:06:36.420 is it's...
00:06:41.880 For us to understand it.
00:06:46.720 It comes in multiple forms.
00:06:48.600 There is more than just one form of love.
00:06:53.420 And it is very...
00:06:56.880 It's similar to the erotic bliss
00:07:01.260 in the same way that apprehension of the magnitude
00:07:05.300 of the universe and the magnitude of God
00:07:08.360 is similar to being afraid of a tiger.
00:07:18.040 And so these medieval artworks
00:07:21.220 would capture this.
00:07:23.540 Not that they were trying to depict anything tawdry.
00:07:26.920 Far from it.
00:07:28.800 They're trying to point towards the true emotion
00:07:32.020 which we experience in a lesser form
00:07:38.860 here on Earth.
00:07:45.460 Particularly a lesser form
00:07:46.960 if it's merely lust.
00:07:56.120 Now what's the difference between lust and eros?
00:07:58.440 Well, I'd like to start with
00:08:02.740 another C.S. Lewis lecture actually
00:08:05.440 talking about storge.
00:08:07.660 The love of the familiar.
00:08:11.020 The familial love.
00:08:13.040 The love you have for your dog
00:08:15.180 and that your dog has for you.
00:08:19.200 And storge is
00:08:20.700 one of the least selfish forms of love.
00:08:24.780 It's one of the least
00:08:25.920 mercenary forms of love.
00:08:29.540 And
00:08:29.780 you even continue to love your family
00:08:32.200 even when you're angry at them.
00:08:34.400 You know, even with your dog.
00:08:35.700 You love your dog
00:08:36.780 even when you're angry at your dog.
00:08:38.960 And it's not a
00:08:39.840 demanding love.
00:08:41.320 It's not a jealous love.
00:08:43.100 It's not a profitable
00:08:44.780 love.
00:08:46.040 It's just this
00:08:46.840 innate
00:08:47.580 love.
00:08:52.100 And yet
00:08:52.700 even it's not enough.
00:08:54.120 Not on its own.
00:08:55.920 Lewis goes on
00:08:59.400 and I'll link to the video
00:09:01.900 down below
00:09:02.440 where he does that.
00:09:04.080 He goes on to describe
00:09:05.840 the
00:09:07.980 how storge
00:09:10.240 can become
00:09:11.860 greedy.
00:09:13.540 How it can become
00:09:14.860 selfish.
00:09:15.700 how there will be the parent
00:09:22.320 that ostensibly wants
00:09:24.140 the betterment
00:09:25.040 for their child
00:09:25.860 but
00:09:28.140 they want
00:09:29.260 their type of betterment.
00:09:30.680 They never choose to
00:09:31.900 understand the child
00:09:33.780 or figure out what the child
00:09:34.800 actually needs.
00:09:35.720 They just want to
00:09:36.860 put their standards
00:09:38.100 onto the child.
00:09:38.980 there's the
00:09:44.960 storge
00:09:45.720 which
00:09:47.700 is upset
00:09:49.620 if the child
00:09:50.660 or the friend
00:09:52.440 or the neighbor
00:09:53.740 moves somewhere else
00:09:56.400 or if they get married
00:09:57.580 or if they start
00:09:59.560 becoming quite serious
00:10:00.660 about going to church.
00:10:01.720 and
00:10:03.700 they're upset
00:10:05.340 because this person
00:10:06.840 they love
00:10:07.400 they feel like
00:10:08.120 they're losing
00:10:09.340 this person
00:10:10.920 they love
00:10:11.440 to the new experience.
00:10:13.100 So even storge
00:10:18.000 which is one of the
00:10:18.960 least
00:10:19.940 selfish
00:10:20.680 forms of love
00:10:21.700 if it's not
00:10:22.700 serving that
00:10:23.380 higher love
00:10:24.200 of God
00:10:25.040 and goodness
00:10:25.840 is ultimately
00:10:29.580 going to be
00:10:30.540 a very destructive
00:10:31.700 form of love
00:10:33.140 as well.
00:10:38.780 And when it comes
00:10:39.700 to erotic love
00:10:40.560 we are absolutely
00:10:43.820 awash
00:10:44.900 in lust
00:10:45.740 these days
00:10:47.040 which only
00:10:47.980 looks at
00:10:48.940 the immediate
00:10:50.160 it only looks
00:10:51.720 at
00:10:52.200 the
00:10:53.280 mechanical
00:10:54.580 the
00:10:55.060 you know
00:10:56.160 what can I
00:10:57.360 the instrumental
00:10:58.340 what can I get out
00:10:59.220 of this person
00:10:59.920 what can this person
00:11:01.520 do
00:11:01.920 for me
00:11:03.080 it's looking
00:11:04.100 only at the surface
00:11:05.260 it's not looking
00:11:06.240 at the person
00:11:07.360 throughout time
00:11:08.580 it's not
00:11:10.460 looking at the woman
00:11:11.800 and seeing the mother
00:11:13.340 and grandmother
00:11:15.060 that she could be
00:11:16.560 or likewise
00:11:17.560 looking at the man
00:11:18.380 and seeing the father
00:11:19.320 and grandfather
00:11:20.000 that he could be
00:11:21.020 it's only looking
00:11:22.640 at the
00:11:23.400 surface patina
00:11:24.820 the prettiness
00:11:26.100 and now this prettiness
00:11:32.760 is fine
00:11:35.320 if that's where
00:11:37.040 you start
00:11:37.900 but it's not
00:11:39.560 where you should
00:11:40.180 be
00:11:40.460 ending
00:11:41.140 the same thing
00:11:44.340 with art
00:11:44.780 prettiness
00:11:46.600 composition
00:11:47.680 color
00:11:49.060 all of the
00:11:50.520 these are good
00:11:51.200 things but they're
00:11:52.320 a starting
00:11:53.240 point
00:11:53.880 true eros
00:11:57.040 in particular
00:11:58.080 eros that's
00:11:59.620 ultimately
00:12:00.220 pursuing
00:12:01.440 the greatest
00:12:02.620 goodness
00:12:03.180 eros that's
00:12:04.340 subservient to the
00:12:05.240 greatest goodness
00:12:05.840 is going to be
00:12:07.100 looking at the
00:12:08.260 other person
00:12:08.980 and seeing
00:12:10.620 seeing them
00:12:11.620 throughout time
00:12:12.560 but also
00:12:13.480 seeing
00:12:14.320 into
00:12:15.320 their depths
00:12:16.840 seeing them
00:12:17.880 as a person
00:12:19.060 as a complex
00:12:20.060 human being
00:12:20.900 with these
00:12:22.280 these needs
00:12:23.280 and aspirations
00:12:24.900 and imperfections
00:12:25.840 and the sad
00:12:32.960 thing is that
00:12:33.400 we have been
00:12:33.960 so awash
00:12:35.700 in prettiness
00:12:37.560 we've been
00:12:39.280 so awash
00:12:40.140 in lust
00:12:40.940 even our
00:12:43.120 romances
00:12:43.760 the romances
00:12:46.380 we tell
00:12:46.820 these days
00:12:47.560 seldom stop
00:12:50.000 they seldom
00:12:51.080 go on
00:12:51.560 past the
00:12:52.020 marriage
00:12:52.420 they end
00:12:53.580 with the
00:12:54.080 marriage
00:12:54.500 it's the
00:12:55.280 it's the
00:12:56.340 oeuvre
00:12:57.600 it's the
00:12:59.000 beginning
00:13:00.020 of the
00:13:01.140 symphony
00:13:01.500 it's the
00:13:03.380 it's the
00:13:06.220 introduction
00:13:06.600 to the
00:13:07.000 story
00:13:07.360 and the rest
00:13:08.840 of the
00:13:09.040 story is
00:13:09.400 forgotten
00:13:09.880 appreciating
00:13:20.020 a woman
00:13:20.400 for the
00:13:21.860 way
00:13:22.160 she looks
00:13:23.640 in her
00:13:24.460 youthful
00:13:25.000 splendor
00:13:25.580 the way
00:13:26.620 she looks
00:13:26.960 when she's
00:13:27.360 dressed up
00:13:27.900 or appreciating
00:13:28.700 a man
00:13:29.180 for
00:13:30.120 you know
00:13:32.060 the
00:13:32.340 image
00:13:33.120 he presents
00:13:34.460 the success
00:13:35.380 the confidence
00:13:36.040 and that
00:13:37.160 alone
00:13:37.680 is that's
00:13:40.820 not beauty
00:13:41.320 that's
00:13:42.320 prettiness
00:13:42.980 that's
00:13:44.680 this
00:13:45.680 this
00:13:46.020 shallowness
00:13:46.940 and it's
00:13:48.340 not enough
00:13:49.540 for us
00:13:50.160 we are
00:13:51.640 meant for
00:13:52.240 more than
00:13:52.700 this
00:13:53.020 we are
00:13:53.560 meant for
00:13:53.960 more
00:13:54.380 than just
00:13:55.580 cheap
00:13:58.460 entertainment
00:13:59.260 and expediency
00:14:01.200 and
00:14:02.820 instrumental
00:14:03.700 manipulations
00:14:04.600 there is
00:14:06.740 this deeper
00:14:07.580 beauty
00:14:08.640 present
00:14:09.200 in
00:14:10.200 eros
00:14:10.800 and
00:14:11.820 you can
00:14:12.480 see that
00:14:13.260 you can
00:14:13.640 see that
00:14:14.020 in great
00:14:14.360 art
00:14:14.640 both
00:14:16.800 the
00:14:18.000 spiritual
00:14:18.520 art
00:14:18.960 which
00:14:19.620 points
00:14:20.380 towards
00:14:21.080 why
00:14:23.080 why
00:14:24.400 this
00:14:24.740 thing
00:14:25.020 exists
00:14:25.460 this
00:14:25.760 feeling
00:14:26.720 of
00:14:26.980 romance
00:14:27.740 it's
00:14:30.000 not
00:14:30.700 just
00:14:30.980 something
00:14:31.400 for
00:14:31.700 silly
00:14:31.980 teenagers
00:14:32.540 that
00:14:34.700 there's
00:14:34.960 a
00:14:35.180 grander
00:14:36.220 romance
00:14:37.300 out there
00:14:37.900 and you
00:14:38.940 can't
00:14:39.120 really
00:14:39.300 understand
00:14:39.680 it
00:14:39.960 until
00:14:40.240 you've
00:14:40.520 progressed
00:14:40.920 through
00:14:41.500 the
00:14:42.180 heady
00:14:42.680 delirium
00:14:43.460 of
00:14:44.460 youthful
00:14:45.000 infatuation
00:14:45.820 but
00:14:47.280 there's
00:14:47.480 this
00:14:47.660 higher
00:14:47.960 form
00:14:48.460 out
00:14:48.680 there
00:14:49.000 and
00:14:50.940 when
00:14:51.060 we
00:14:51.220 don't
00:14:51.560 have
00:14:51.860 art
00:14:52.340 in
00:14:52.680 our
00:14:52.840 lives
00:14:53.120 when
00:14:53.240 we
00:14:53.340 don't
00:14:53.520 have
00:14:53.700 beauty
00:14:54.320 in
00:14:55.320 our
00:14:55.500 lives
00:14:56.000 we
00:14:56.680 we
00:14:58.300 have
00:14:58.460 no
00:14:58.660 knowledge
00:14:59.220 no
00:14:59.500 idea
00:15:00.040 that
00:15:01.200 this
00:15:01.420 thing
00:15:01.740 exists
00:15:02.280 out
00:15:02.520 there
00:15:02.740 that
00:15:02.900 there
00:15:03.080 is
00:15:03.440 this
00:15:03.780 grander
00:15:04.920 destination
00:15:06.000 and
00:15:06.900 so
00:15:07.280 when
00:15:07.780 all
00:15:07.920 we
00:15:08.060 value
00:15:08.320 is
00:15:08.520 prettiness
00:15:09.000 we
00:15:09.540 have
00:15:09.820 people
00:15:10.240 constantly
00:15:11.120 trying
00:15:11.680 to
00:15:12.300 relive
00:15:13.140 their
00:15:13.400 teenage
00:15:13.720 years
00:15:14.460 as
00:15:15.140 opposed
00:15:15.360 to
00:15:15.680 growing
00:15:16.400 and
00:15:16.720 finding
00:15:17.100 these
00:15:17.340 more
00:15:17.560 profound
00:15:18.380 truths
00:15:19.860 and
00:15:20.280 beauties
00:15:20.880 and
00:15:21.760 erotic
00:15:22.700 forms
00:15:23.080 of love
00:15:23.720 that are
00:15:24.900 underlying
00:15:25.600 that are
00:15:26.380 possible
00:15:28.240 through
00:15:30.680 after
00:15:31.440 getting
00:15:32.000 through
00:15:32.680 the
00:15:33.900 initial
00:15:34.240 forms
00:15:34.820 so
00:15:43.060 folks
00:15:43.260 don't
00:15:43.600 limit
00:15:43.940 yourself
00:15:44.520 to
00:15:45.700 the
00:15:45.820 world
00:15:46.060 of
00:15:46.200 the
00:15:46.340 pretty
00:15:46.600 find
00:15:48.420 the
00:15:48.620 world
00:15:48.920 of
00:15:49.220 the
00:15:49.400 truly
00:15:49.940 erotic
00:15:51.660 not
00:15:52.240 the
00:15:52.460 cheap
00:15:52.880 erotic
00:15:53.620 of
00:15:54.620 Friday
00:15:55.020 night
00:15:55.300 with
00:15:55.460 a
00:15:55.600 stranger
00:15:56.000 but
00:15:57.760 the
00:15:58.200 grand
00:15:59.480 erotic
00:16:00.300 of
00:16:02.220 where
00:16:02.940 it's
00:16:03.160 mixed
00:16:03.360 in
00:16:03.580 with
00:16:03.880 storge
00:16:05.200 and
00:16:06.460 phileas
00:16:08.100 and
00:16:08.940 agape
00:16:09.500 all of
00:16:10.800 them
00:16:10.940 at
00:16:11.120 once
00:16:11.520 find
00:16:13.940 that
00:16:14.180 form
00:16:14.500 of
00:16:14.640 love
00:16:14.960 and
00:16:16.500 surround
00:16:16.920 yourself
00:16:17.440 with
00:16:18.020 beauty
00:16:18.700 to
00:16:19.560 remind
00:16:19.980 yourself
00:16:20.500 that
00:16:21.400 even
00:16:21.800 though
00:16:22.380 you
00:16:23.580 are
00:16:23.700 going
00:16:23.880 through
00:16:24.100 times
00:16:24.440 of
00:16:24.600 loneliness
00:16:25.060 of
00:16:25.920 you're
00:16:26.900 walking
00:16:27.160 through
00:16:27.360 the
00:16:27.520 wasteland
00:16:28.180 that
00:16:30.000 this
00:16:30.480 this
00:16:31.640 does
00:16:32.240 exist
00:16:33.560 it's
00:16:34.640 not
00:16:34.940 just
00:16:35.160 pie
00:16:35.500 in
00:16:35.620 the
00:16:35.740 sky
00:16:36.000 it's
00:16:36.300 not
00:16:36.520 just
00:16:36.940 a
00:16:37.160 mirage
00:16:37.640 it
00:16:37.920 is
00:16:38.440 out
00:16:39.500 there
00:16:39.840 and
00:16:40.320 keep
00:16:40.540 your
00:16:40.700 eyes
00:16:40.960 on
00:16:41.120 that
00:16:41.340 destination
00:16:42.000 don't
00:16:42.920 get
00:16:43.300 distracted
00:16:44.340 while
00:16:45.580 you're
00:16:45.760 on
00:16:45.880 the
00:16:46.000 journey
00:16:46.300 folks
00:16:48.800 thanks
00:16:50.020 for
00:16:50.180 watching
00:16:50.640 and
00:16:51.800 if
00:16:51.960 you
00:16:52.340 enjoy
00:16:53.740 my
00:16:53.960 content
00:16:54.320 if
00:16:54.640 you
00:16:54.720 want
00:16:54.840 to
00:16:54.920 keep
00:16:55.080 seeing
00:16:55.440 more
00:16:56.040 content
00:16:56.440 like
00:16:56.700 this
00:16:57.000 I
00:16:58.140 ask
00:16:58.500 that
00:16:58.920 if
00:16:59.900 you
00:17:00.020 can
00:17:00.280 you
00:17:01.460 back
00:17:01.660 me
00:17:01.800 on
00:17:01.920 patron
00:17:02.260 one
00:17:03.720 dollar
00:17:04.000 a
00:17:04.160 month
00:17:04.340 gets
00:17:04.580 the
00:17:04.720 access
00:17:05.000 to
00:17:05.420 my
00:17:05.920 exclusive
00:17:07.200 patron
00:17:07.780 only
00:17:08.080 podcast
00:17:08.520 each
00:17:08.920 week
00:17:09.200 as
00:17:10.120 well
00:17:10.280 as
00:17:10.560 some
00:17:11.080 other
00:17:11.280 content
00:17:11.780 anyway
00:17:13.320 thanks
00:17:13.900 for
00:17:14.060 listening
00:17:14.420 deus
00:17:15.980 bolt
00:17:16.340 and
00:17:17.060 erinia
00:17:41.780 about
00:17:44.640 you
00:17:44.660 so
00:17:45.760 people
00:17:46.300 you
00:17:50.840 you
00:17:51.400 you
00:17:51.440 you
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