Loomer Unleashed - February 14, 2025


EP102: MAGA Or Mole? Lindy Li Responds


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 22 minutes

Words per Minute

147.54689

Word Count

29,893

Sentence Count

2,254

Misogynist Sentences

23

Hate Speech Sentences

45


Summary

On today's episode of Loomer Unleashed, host Laura Loomer is joined by Chris LaCarrada, founder of Grassi, a sponsor of the show, to discuss the latest in the confirmation hearings of Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. and the lack of diversity within the Republican Party.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:00:29.000 Thank you.
00:23:29.000 Have a great weekend.
00:29:58.000 A young female journalist.
00:30:02.000 A conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
00:30:06.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems will be fixed in about five minutes.
00:30:12.000 Chained herself to Twitter.
00:30:13.000 Chained herself to Twitter.
00:30:43.000 Chained herself to Twitter.
00:31:08.000 I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
00:31:10.000 We have a lot to talk about tonight, so we're just going to go ahead and get right into it.
00:31:15.000 If you were following me from early this morning, from the moment I woke up, it's been pretty explosive.
00:31:21.000 We're going to have Chris LaCarrada, the founder of Grassi, who's also a sponsor of Loomer Unleashed, join us momentarily.
00:31:29.000 But before he comes on the show and we talk about everything that happened today up on Capitol Hill, And over these last two days with the confirmation hearings with Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr., I'll have to give you a preview so that you can understand why this is going to be one of the more highly anticipated episodes of Loomer Unleashed tonight.
00:31:49.000 Some of you may have seen there's an individual, a woman by the name of Lindy Lee, who is gaining a lot of traction on the internet right now amongst...
00:31:59.000 Right-wing circles, and I guess you could say even Democrat circles.
00:32:04.000 Lindy Lee is a Chinese immigrant who rose to prominence in the Democrat Party doing fundraising for the Democrats, raising money for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris' campaign, even running for Congress herself.
00:32:19.000 And she has a long history of making very, very, very derogatory We have those images.
00:32:35.000 We're going to show all of you the receipts tonight.
00:32:37.000 And I was posting about this because I've noticed that for some reason there's a lack of vetting in the Republican Party and within the GOP just in general.
00:32:47.000 And any single time, any kind of minority or any kind of immigrant...
00:32:52.000 Says one thing bad about the Democrats or Joe Biden, or they say something that sounds believable or convincing about the GOP. Republicans just immediately put their guard down because for some reason, and I don't know, I don't know what the problem is.
00:33:09.000 I'm going to start calling it tokenization syndrome.
00:33:12.000 I think I'm going to coin that term tonight.
00:33:15.000 Tokenization syndrome.
00:33:17.000 The Republican Party is addicted to having tokens.
00:33:21.000 And whether it's Asians or blacks or whether it's Hispanics or Muslims, whatever it may be, there's an egregious lack of vetting.
00:33:31.000 And constantly, time and time again, the Republican Party ends up stepping in it.
00:33:37.000 You know, we've had Black Lives Matter activists who have said that they were all of a sudden pro-MAGA, and yet, you know, some of these individuals have been tied up in fraudulent scams, but the Republican Party turns blind eye to it because they're so desperate to have that validation from a black person or a Hispanic person or an Asian woman or a Muslim that they don't do any basic research.
00:34:01.000 We saw this almost bite the Trump campaign in the ass recently when during their Muslim outreach in Dearborn, Michigan, you had individuals who were advocating for Hamas and Hezbollah who all of a sudden decided because of the issue between the war of Israel and Hamas that they wanted to endorse President Trump.
00:34:18.000 And so some genius on President Trump's campaign thought it was going to be a good idea to allow for an imam.
00:34:26.000 To give the invocation at President Trump's inauguration.
00:34:29.000 And obviously this didn't end up happening because, well, people like myself and others brought it to the Trump campaign's awareness and then ultimately the media ended up picking up on this because somebody within the campaign failed to do vetting.
00:34:45.000 Why am I bringing this up?
00:34:46.000 Because this imam was actually cited as refusing to condemn Hezbollah and actually supported Hezbollah.
00:34:54.000 And because he was a Muslim who said that he supported President Trump, people on Trump's campaign and the inaugural committee were willing to allow this pro-Hezbollah imam to give the invocation.
00:35:06.000 Thank God he was not able to give the invocation.
00:35:09.000 And thank God there was no Islamic speaker, period, at President Trump's inauguration.
00:35:14.000 But this has happened over and over and over again.
00:35:19.000 I mean, look, there have been instances of, you know, there was an instance during the campaign of a woman in California who had been charged with animal abuse.
00:35:30.000 And for some reason, I guess she had a rich husband.
00:35:33.000 Who ended up giving money to the Trump campaign and she was almost appointed as a delegate for the convention.
00:35:39.000 So, again, I love President Trump and I love the message of the Trump campaign and the Trump administration, but unfortunately, within the Republican apparatus and within the overall GOP apparatus, there's such a thirst for tokenization.
00:35:59.000 That there's really not a lot of vetting going on.
00:36:02.000 And so unfortunately, you know, we have bad actors and people who have said the most terrible things about President Trump.
00:36:09.000 I mean, we see this now with a lot of the tech billionaires who are being invited into Trump's circle.
00:36:13.000 And now, even after the fact, right, people who...
00:36:16.000 Worked with the Democrat Party and worked with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, like Lindy Lee, all throughout the 2024 election season, now being welcomed on board to the inaugural committee.
00:36:27.000 Yes, in fact, this woman, Lindy Lee, even though she has been accused of being a CCP asset, even though she has called President Trump a serial rapist, even though she has said that Trump supporters are Klan members, was actually appointed to the Trump Vance inaugural committee, believe it or not.
00:36:45.000 And so I posted some information about Lindy Lee because people like Benny Johnson and Dinesh D'Souza and Glenn Beck have been trying to normalize this woman and bring her onto their podcast so that she can reinvent herself, even though, you know, she spent the entire election season bashing President Trump.
00:37:06.000 And it was only just, you know, a day after the election that she decided that she hated Joe Biden and then wanted to be a Trump supporter.
00:37:14.000 You know, like, this isn't a reawakening.
00:37:16.000 This is what you call opportunism.
00:37:19.000 And so I've been monitoring a lot of the statements that this woman has been making.
00:37:24.000 There have been people out there who followed her congressional campaigns, people who have monitored her social media postings, who believe that she is a foreign agent.
00:37:35.000 Now, I'm not accusing Lindy Lee of being a CCP asset.
00:37:38.000 I'm not accusing Lindy Lee of being a foreign agent.
00:37:42.000 But I do find it to be rather suspicious that an individual who was born in China is now all of a sudden trying to just infiltrate the GOP And so we're going to get into this.
00:38:09.000 You can scroll my social media timeline if you haven't seen the interaction.
00:38:13.000 She blocked me on social media because I pointed out the fact that she said she doesn't even speak Chinese.
00:38:19.000 So how could she be a CCP asset?
00:38:21.000 And then I found...
00:38:23.000 Multiple videos of her speaking Chinese with my investigative team here at Loomer Unleashed, including the account that works with me often, CCP Skit Tracer.
00:38:34.000 If you're not following it, be sure that you're following his account.
00:38:37.000 And then to my surprise, I suppose, this morning I received a DM message from Lindy Lee.
00:38:43.000 And without revealing all of the screenshots...
00:38:48.000 I suppose my producer can show that screenshot so that you can see that that's how the interaction went down.
00:38:54.000 So, Cannon, go ahead and screenshot the first interaction.
00:38:58.000 You don't need to show the entire DM thread, but you can show that Lindy Lee did, in fact, contact the show account.
00:39:05.000 She didn't contact my personal account because she blocked me.
00:39:09.000 She claims that she blocked me because people were tagging her, but...
00:39:13.000 My first interaction with her was months ago, actually, before yesterday.
00:39:17.000 And she had me blocked even before I ever tweeted at her.
00:39:22.000 So I wouldn't really agree with the premise of her claim that she blocked me because my supporters were tagging her because I first found that I was blocked by her the first time I ever posted about her around the time of the inauguration when I discovered that she was on the inaugural committee despite her history of making derogatory anti-Trump comments.
00:39:43.000 Long story short, Lindy Lee reached out to the Loomer Unleashed account and asked if she could have a conversation with me.
00:39:51.000 And I decided that if Lindy Lee wanted to have a conversation with me, she could have that conversation on the phone here on Loomer Unleashed.
00:39:59.000 So I have not had any phone calls with Lindy Lee today or ever.
00:40:03.000 For that matter.
00:40:04.000 And this is going to be our first time having a conversation tonight over video here live on Loomer Unleashed because we were DMing today and we were going back and forth about the show and she did agree to come on the show.
00:40:20.000 And so she's going to be coming on.
00:40:22.000 She's going to be coming on the show tonight at about 1020 Eastern.
00:40:27.000 And so we're going to have other guests come on tonight.
00:40:30.000 In the meantime, including...
00:40:33.000 The founder of Grassy, the sponsor of Loomer Unleashed.
00:40:38.000 But Cannon, let's go ahead and get this so that people can see the DM. Because I just want to be fully transparent with everybody so that they understand how this went down.
00:40:51.000 Go ahead and show the screenshot.
00:40:53.000 Yeah, let's get the DM pulled up.
00:40:56.000 Here you go.
00:40:57.000 So this is the DM that she sent me this morning at 9.36 a.m.
00:41:01.000 Hi, is Laura willing to speak with me?
00:41:03.000 Thank you so much.
00:41:04.000 That was sent to the Loomer Unleashed account, and we replied from the Loomer Unleashed account, would you like to come on her show?
00:41:12.000 And then afterwards, you can show, I guess, the other messages as well, just so that there's a full understanding of what the viewers can expect tonight.
00:41:21.000 Because I have not had any conversations with Lindy.
00:41:25.000 The communication has been with my producer thus far.
00:41:28.000 She has been communicating with my producer.
00:41:33.000 And, you know, my producer sent me the messages that he was going to send to Lindy, and I approved the messages.
00:41:39.000 And so we sent the messages, and, you know, she asked if it was going to be an ambush.
00:41:45.000 And I said, well, you know, it depends on your understanding of what the term ambush is because...
00:41:50.000 It's not intended to be an ambush, but we are going to be asking Lindy questions tonight about her comments and about her statements and about the inconsistencies with her statements as it relates to the things I've uncovered.
00:42:04.000 And so we're going to have a respectful conversation tonight, and we're going to have an open and truthful conversation tonight.
00:42:12.000 It's going to be a peaceful and respectful conversation, but that's how that's going to go down.
00:42:20.000 Anybody is welcome on Loomer Unleashed, especially people that I'm reporting on or people that I'm commenting on.
00:42:25.000 And this is a lesson for all of my detractors or anybody who ends up finding themselves in the middle of Loomer Unleashed reports or any of my reports.
00:42:34.000 I'm open to having anybody on my show.
00:42:36.000 It doesn't matter if you're a lawmaker, if you're a private citizen, or you're a public figure.
00:42:40.000 If I'm reporting on you and you want to either refute my reporting or you want to give your own point of view or you want to...
00:42:49.000 Give your side of the story.
00:42:51.000 You're more than welcome to come on Loomer Unleashed.
00:42:53.000 And so in the next 45 minutes or so, Lindy Lee is going to be coming on.
00:42:59.000 So please be sure that we're live right now.
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00:43:39.000 We're going to hold people accountable and we're going to bring the receipts and we do have receipts tonight that we are going to be releasing here that we have not released yet on my...
00:43:49.000 My public Twitter account.
00:43:51.000 There are documents pertaining to Lindy Lee that we have not publicly released yet that we are going to be asking her about live on air tonight.
00:43:58.000 And so stay tuned because she's going to be coming on in the next 45 minutes.
00:44:03.000 But before that, I want to thank the sponsor of tonight's episode of Loomer Unleash, Grassy.
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00:44:43.000 Which makes it the perfect drink for athletes, families, and anybody who wants to stay healthy on the go.
00:44:49.000 I drink it.
00:44:50.000 I'm so busy all the time.
00:44:51.000 I don't have a lot of time to eat all the time.
00:44:54.000 So I like drinking these drinks because I feel like, because I'm not really getting a lot of nutrition because I... I kind of eat just once a day these days because I get so tied up and bogged down in my work.
00:45:05.000 I feel like I'm getting my daily vitamin dose by drinking Grossi and I feel like it helps me when I'm feeling lightheaded or when I'm feeling a little under the weather or maybe I'm not feeling well because, well, I'm kind of run down from working so much.
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00:45:28.000 When you sip on Grassi, you're not just nourishing yourself, you're helping support American workers and local communities across our country.
00:45:35.000 And if there's one thing that you know about me, I always stand with American workers, American businesses, and American manufacturing.
00:45:41.000 And it's quite fitting that the sponsor of today's episode of Loomer Unleashed is Grassi, given the fact that today we witnessed the confirmation of RFK Jr. in the Senate.
00:45:52.000 So he is now officially the Human Health Services Secretary.
00:45:59.000 I thought, what better way to kick off tonight's episode and celebrate the health revitalization of America and American citizens than by talking about...
00:46:13.000 And by talking about American innovators and American businesses that are committed to the Maha agenda.
00:46:20.000 And so joining me now to discuss the confirmation today of RFK Jr. and the importance of supporting healthy living and the importance of making America healthy again is Chris LaCarrada, the founder and the CEO of Grossi.
00:46:37.000 Chris, thank you so much for joining me tonight on Loomer Unleashed, and thank you so much for your sponsorship of my show.
00:46:43.000 I really appreciate it.
00:46:45.000 Well, it's a pleasure, Laura.
00:46:46.000 Nice to speak with you.
00:46:47.000 I couldn't have said it better.
00:46:49.000 I love what you just said with Lugrassi.
00:46:50.000 That's fantastic.
00:46:52.000 Thank you.
00:46:52.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:46:54.000 And I think your business is really interesting for multiple reasons.
00:46:58.000 You are promoting the Maha lifestyle and you're promoting healthy living.
00:47:02.000 And what drives me really crazy, and I'm sure that you can relate to this as somebody who's in the health beverage industry, is you see a lot of these phony drinks out there, beverages that say that they're health beverages, and then you flip them over and they have more or higher grams of sugar than your average Snickers bar.
00:47:19.000 And what a lot of people don't understand is that a lot of these drinks are no better than if you were to eat two Kit Kat bars or a Snickers or, you know, a lollipop because of the high levels of sugar.
00:47:30.000 So they're not exactly health beverages.
00:47:32.000 And a lot of the so-called health beverages and even protein bars, a lot of these health items that are marketed to Americans are not really nutritious.
00:47:43.000 They're not actually healthy and they're not actually health.
00:47:46.000 They're not actually beneficial to boosting immunity or just having a healthy lifestyle in general.
00:47:53.000 And so I personally do not promote any products that I don't personally use myself.
00:48:00.000 And I've drank your beverage on my show before and we have it here in the background.
00:48:04.000 And I've, you know, I've tasted it live on air.
00:48:06.000 I drink.
00:48:08.000 I've explained that there's multiple flavors, and for me personally, as somebody who is always on the go, I've been awake for the last 48 hours because I've just had so much work to do.
00:48:20.000 I haven't been able to sleep.
00:48:21.000 It actually helps when I'm able to drink these grassy drinks because sometimes I forget to take my daily multivitamin.
00:48:28.000 If you're not consistent with your daily multivitamin, you're not going to get your daily vitamin dose as you know.
00:48:35.000 You obviously need to stay hydrated.
00:48:38.000 You're not going to forget to drink water or forget to hydrate yourself throughout the day.
00:48:42.000 And so if you're somebody who is on the go like I am and you forget to take your daily multivitamins, that's why a drink like Grossi, in my opinion, is so beneficial because it's low in sugar, it's low in carbs.
00:48:55.000 But it also has your daily doses of vitamin D, C, and zinc.
00:48:59.000 And I think that we're going to start to see a reform and perhaps even more regulation in the health market with the confirmation of RFK Jr. because there are a lot of deceptive products out there, especially with the way that the FDA has been completely corrupted and the way that there's so many companies out there with false marketing promoting products that are not exactly healthy.
00:49:25.000 To the American people, deceiving them into thinking that their products are beneficial to their health.
00:49:29.000 And so I wanted to get your opinion on this and your comments about what the confirmation of RFK Jr. means for the country, for the optimization of health for all Americans, and also for the future of true American businesses and products that are manufactured here in America like your product is and the overall health of the American people.
00:49:54.000 Sure.
00:49:55.000 I mean, I think, you know, when you start with the fact that, you know, 38 million Americans is diagnosed with diabetes and you look at the beverage industry alone, I mean, we have, you know, carbonated soft drinks are anywhere from 32 grams or above that in sugar.
00:50:13.000 And these days what we're calling low sugar products are 8 grams.
00:50:17.000 And so when we developed Grossi, we wanted to make sure that number one, we addressed that issue.
00:50:22.000 So we were at 4 grams of sugar.
00:50:24.000 So we're even lower than what are considered low sugar brands.
00:50:28.000 So we're even lower than that.
00:50:30.000 But we are considered a functional beverage because we wanted to address a couple of different things.
00:50:34.000 Number one, we want to stand out as a brand that's an alternative to the sea of highly processed, highly sugared, unhealthy brands that Represent the beverage industry.
00:50:44.000 So we wanted to make sure we stood out as an alternative and something that when people do want to become healthy and have a healthier lifestyle and have it be part of their daily lifestyle, we wanted to be that brand they could turn to and have faith and trust in that brand that what we say is under labels in the bottle.
00:51:01.000 And that comes from us being going through the rigor to have the certification for organic and everything else.
00:51:08.000 And the base of our product is barley grass juice powder.
00:51:12.000 And that has long medicinal benefits, good for detoxifying the body, the liver, the bloodstream.
00:51:18.000 And we use that as our base.
00:51:19.000 And then we infused it with vitamin D, C, and zinc to boost immunity.
00:51:23.000 So we really want it to be a functional, healthy beverage that is very low sugar.
00:51:29.000 And the sugar we use, by the way, is monk fruit and cane sugar, all organic.
00:51:33.000 And when we started this brand...
00:51:35.000 Organic was a difficult track.
00:51:37.000 It was very difficult to get the certification, number one, and very difficult to break into the beverage industry, which has a sea of beverages, as you're probably aware.
00:51:46.000 Very competitive industry.
00:51:47.000 So the food and beverage industry in general is a very large, very competitive industry.
00:51:53.000 So it's hard to argue the fact that child obesity, one in five children are obese.
00:52:00.000 38 million Americans have diabetes.
00:52:02.000 I mean, we have a health epidemic in this country.
00:52:06.000 Yeah, and now you're also seeing a lot of lawsuits, especially by the parents of these children and teenagers who are drinking so-called health and energy drinks, and you have countless stories of children just dropping dead or teenagers dying because they're drinking so-called drinks that are marketed.
00:52:24.000 They're literally marketed, and they're allowed to be marketed as energy drinks or health drinks, and they're not.
00:52:29.000 They're actually giving people cardiac issues, and they're actually contributing to diabetes.
00:52:34.000 And so why is that?
00:52:36.000 Like, why are so many health companies, and I say health companies in air quotes because there's so many products, it seems like, that are able to get away with marketing themselves as health products or healthy drinks or energy drinks or...
00:52:58.000 Maybe you can speak to that because I don't work in this industry.
00:53:03.000 That's your specialty as somebody who's worked in this market for over 20 years, according to your bio.
00:53:08.000 Because that is something that I find to be extremely concerning.
00:53:12.000 And perhaps if that becomes regulated or maybe RFK Jr. is able to change that.
00:53:18.000 We'll see a decrease in childhood obesity and heart disease in our country.
00:53:22.000 But I've never really understood why these companies are allowed to do that.
00:53:27.000 Well, at first, it's regulation and accountability, number one.
00:53:30.000 And number two is transparency.
00:53:32.000 I think that's the great thing that I'm hearing from RFK, and that is that the more we can expose this to the public, the more they can understand what exactly is going into these ingredients, where they come from, how they're manufactured.
00:53:45.000 The more we can understand that, the better we can begin to center in on what we do about it.
00:53:49.000 But there just has been any accountability.
00:53:51.000 And we've been, I guess, we've been a little bit, I guess it would be convinced through marketing techniques and other things that they're actually good brands.
00:54:02.000 And in many cases, they just simply aren't.
00:54:05.000 And they just have gotten away with it.
00:54:07.000 And for long periods of time, especially the larger the corporation sometimes.
00:54:11.000 It's easier to get a cheaper product and to leverage that into, you know, their procurement structures and things like that.
00:54:18.000 So, you know, a little bit of that goes on.
00:54:20.000 But the fact that there's not been enough transparency and there's not been enough accountability, especially as we see these kind of things like 38 million Americans with diabetes, one in five children that could be considered obese, we just have not had enough accountability.
00:54:36.000 And there's not been enough transparency and understanding by the public to push back on that.
00:54:41.000 So that's just my opinion, and they'll get away with it as long as they can.
00:54:44.000 And until somebody steps on them.
00:54:46.000 Another thing about your company and your product is that it's manufactured here in America and it supports American manufacturing as an American business, which means that you're employing Americans.
00:54:57.000 Perhaps you can also share some statistics because this is not my wheelhouse.
00:55:02.000 And I'm also interested in knowing how many of these drinks and beverages that are marketed as health drinks or just sodas or any kind of beverage in general, how many of these are actually manufactured here in America?
00:55:14.000 And I've seen from your resume and also your bio that you've worked with companies like Coca-Cola and Nestle before.
00:55:21.000 And so can you speak to the percentage of the beverages that are being consumed by Americans that are actually manufactured here in America compared to your product?
00:55:32.000 Well, I can't speak to it in terms of how many beverages, but I can speak to the overall manufacturing industries.
00:55:38.000 So when you think about this, You know, we literally, especially in the last 25 years, because of trade agreements, NAFTA mostly, and what's happened with what they call the China effect, we have lost a serious amount of factories in this country to foreign entities.
00:55:58.000 And when you think about what the economic impact is and the control for consumers when the factories are within our borders and the control within our agencies and even our government.
00:56:10.000 It is much more rigorous than others.
00:56:12.000 The quality standards in other nations aren't the same as ours.
00:56:15.000 And even ours need a lot of work, as we're talking about.
00:56:18.000 But we've lost over 42,000 factories in this country in the last 25 years.
00:56:26.000 And a lot of that had come from foreign products that came in and flooded the market and ended up putting our American businesses out of business.
00:56:35.000 And having that backfill with a foreign entity, or worse than that, when our own corporations shut down our manufacturing plants and ship them overseas.
00:56:45.000 And those are high-paying manufacturing jobs and in many cases came out of smaller communities.
00:56:51.000 And the decimation, I mean literally the ruin that it does to these communities is absolutely amazing.
00:56:58.000 And if people could see that up front, and we've done that 42,000 times in the last 25 years.
00:57:04.000 And for what?
00:57:06.000 I mean, we produce it better here.
00:57:08.000 We can produce it with higher quality here.
00:57:10.000 It's got better regulation, believe it or not, here than it does in other places.
00:57:14.000 And we've lost all these jobs to outside entities.
00:57:17.000 And let me give you an example.
00:57:18.000 It is not the beverage industry.
00:57:20.000 But I'll give you an example.
00:57:21.000 I live here in the South.
00:57:22.000 And one of the industries that took the biggest hit in America is textiles.
00:57:28.000 And we live in an old textile town, and the remnants of the textile industry was here when we got here, all these vacant buildings and factories and everything else.
00:57:37.000 And they had a third-generation family that employed thousands of people across the region, but because of a flood of foreign product into the region, they ended up going out of business.
00:57:48.000 But now here we are, 25 years later, and the latest manufacturing plant here in town is a Chinese textile plant.
00:57:58.000 So we jettisoned and just destroyed thousands of jobs in the region, destroyed a three-generation family business, and helped to destroy part of the industry in America.
00:58:08.000 And to do what?
00:58:10.000 To give it to a foreign entity that now builds a factory back into our country, right in our backyards.
00:58:16.000 So a lot of that had been going on, and NAFTA was pointed to as one of the issues.
00:58:22.000 For trade in this country, and we've lost an awful lot of manufacturing across sectors.
00:58:27.000 The beverage industry and food industry has not been hit as hard with outsourcing, but it comes down to where are they sourcing the ingredients from?
00:58:34.000 And if they're not sharing that, you'll never know.
00:58:37.000 But if they're pulling ingredients from another country, what's the quality standard?
00:58:41.000 Where are they taking that from?
00:58:42.000 And if they could take it from here and produce it here and create another business here or support another business here, why wouldn't we do that?
00:58:50.000 And that's what you do.
00:58:52.000 Just tell our viewers, so, I mean, obviously, I've been promoting your product for a while now, but I think it'd be interesting and also inspiring for them to hear directly from you.
00:59:02.000 How many employees do you have?
00:59:04.000 Where are your factories located?
00:59:08.000 How many jobs are you creating in rural communities where a lot of these factories have been shut down due to outsourcing to foreign labor?
00:59:18.000 Because I know that that's why you created Grassi and why you're so committed, as we speak about often on the show, to supporting American workers and also American manufacturing.
00:59:30.000 Yeah, I mean, we are an emerging company.
00:59:32.000 We're a young brand, so we do mostly everything by contract.
00:59:35.000 So our manufacturing plant is right here in Virginia.
00:59:39.000 We're in the Carolinas, but we produce in Virginia, all American, obviously.
00:59:42.000 All of our ingredients come from America.
00:59:44.000 We made sure of that.
00:59:46.000 And all of our sales and all of our employees are our third party at this point.
00:59:51.000 Like I said, we're a young brand and growing.
00:59:54.000 So we have a small amount of people and we're a family organization that are full-time folks that are on our payroll.
01:00:00.000 Everybody else is third party at this point.
01:00:03.000 So that's everybody from brand management companies to distributors to our sales groups and things like that.
01:00:09.000 We do it all through third party.
01:00:10.000 But everything we do, we make sure that everything's manufactured within the States and everything we do in the States is something that's promoting.
01:00:20.000 Manufacturing in the States.
01:00:22.000 But, Laura, let me share something with you.
01:00:24.000 How we got started here at Grassi, and you've already touched on it, is I'm from manufacturing, but my start in manufacturing was in my wife's hometown.
01:00:33.000 That was a town that was hit very, very hard with factory closures.
01:00:37.000 And the factory I was working in at that point got shut down.
01:00:41.000 So that's where this all started.
01:00:43.000 And 40 years later, you know, I spent all that time in manufacturing and I saw that repeated.
01:00:49.000 Far too many times.
01:00:51.000 And the destruction of these small towns is just amazing.
01:00:54.000 So we've lost in the last 20 years, 5.5 million manufacturing jobs.
01:00:59.000 And you cannot replace a manufacturing job with a service sector job, which pays 30% less.
01:01:07.000 So you're probably very happy and content with President Trump's new tariff policies.
01:01:12.000 Oh, you know, the fact that NAFTA is gone, thank you.
01:01:17.000 And the fact that he is the last four or five presidents, I mean, he is the guy that understands trade more than most.
01:01:23.000 And he's addressing the reciprocal trade issue, which is definitely an issue because we have other nations that are, you know, the trade imbalance is pretty significant.
01:01:33.000 So they have tariffs on us and we don't tariff them.
01:01:36.000 So I think, you know, all he's doing is shoring up.
01:01:39.000 As of today now, we have tariff reciprocity.
01:01:41.000 Yes, absolutely.
01:01:42.000 And there should be.
01:01:43.000 Isn't that fair?
01:01:45.000 I mean, you know, this is a, you know, why should we be the country that's on the short end of that stick?
01:01:49.000 So these are American manufacturers matter as well.
01:01:53.000 And American manufacturers and workers matter as well.
01:01:57.000 So, yeah, he's just shoring up what should have been done 20 years ago.
01:02:00.000 So I'm thankful for President Trump addressing a very difficult issue.
01:02:05.000 I'm sure that's not easy.
01:02:06.000 But at the same time, the more manufacturing we can do in this country and our borders, the better.
01:02:11.000 Absolutely.
01:02:12.000 I want to go ahead and get your reaction to some of these clips.
01:02:15.000 Here's the clip from RFK Jr.'s confirmation vote passing today.
01:02:19.000 The Democrats were very sad.
01:02:21.000 As you know, here at Loomer Unleashed, not only do we have a show, but we have a full-scale media team as well that goes into the field.
01:02:28.000 We have a D.C. correspondent, and we spend a lot of our time tracking and confronting members of Congress and senators and just politicians in general.
01:02:39.000 And we've been tracking a lot.
01:02:40.000 A lot of these Democrat senators who have been opposing RFK Jr.'s nomination and his confirmation.
01:02:48.000 And of course, you know, they're all bankrolled by Big Pharma.
01:02:51.000 If you look at their FEC records, as we pointed out today, the DSCC, the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee, has received thousands and thousands of dollars from Pfizer and Pfizer's PAC. So they are financially inclined and they have a reason,
01:03:07.000 of course, through their donors to oppose On this vote, the yeas are 52, the nays are 48. Confirmation is confirmed.
01:03:28.000 Just number four?
01:03:30.000 Yeah.
01:03:34.000 There's obviously a lot of excitement today because it is going to be a new age.
01:03:38.000 It is going to be a new age.
01:03:39.000 And what we're seeing is pretty remarkable in this country.
01:03:43.000 Generally, you have partisan cabinets where the people that are confirmed or nominated are partisan loyalists.
01:03:52.000 And in this case, President Trump has appointed several Democrats in the form of Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. to his cabinet, both of whom have been confirmed over the last 48 hours.
01:04:03.000 And it's not just a political realignment, but it's also a cultural realignment.
01:04:07.000 And I think we're going to see a medical and a health realignment.
01:04:11.000 as well in our country, which I think is going to be beneficial.
01:04:14.000 But it's just it's just really stunning to me to see the lack of honesty from these from these Democrats, because RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard, for example, they've been lifelong Democrats.
01:04:26.000 I mean, up until about two months before the election, RFK Jr. was attacking President Trump every day and saying that he was morally bankrupt.
01:04:33.000 But then, you know, President Trump was able to put those insults aside and realize that, yeah, he might have some crazy wacky ideas as it relates to climate change.
01:04:43.000 But he is pretty sound and pretty logical when it comes to the health of our country and his proposals to making America healthy again.
01:04:54.000 But these senators, instead of just admitting that they have this partisan animus towards President Trump and his nominees, they don't want to admit that they're on the tape.
01:05:03.000 From these pharmaceutical companies.
01:05:05.000 So we confronted some of these senators today just moments before that vote was completed, the vote that we just played.
01:05:13.000 And I want to get your take on this.
01:05:15.000 We have a clip up.
01:05:17.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number five of Loomer Unleashed confronting Senator Amy Klobuchar about the RFK hearing today.
01:05:24.000 Hello, Senator Klobuchar.
01:05:26.000 Are Senate Democrats against ROK Jr. because of Pfizer PACs donations to DSCC?
01:05:32.000 Is that why?
01:05:34.000 And then, of course, Mazzy Hirono as well.
01:05:40.000 So they all they're all just.
01:05:42.000 We're pretty much on a first-name basis with these senators now because they know that we're not going to stop.
01:05:46.000 So they actually started referring to my correspondent by his first name because they realized we're not going to go away no matter how many times they ignore us.
01:05:54.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number six.
01:05:57.000 Hey Senator Hirono, are Senate Democrats against RFK Jr. because of their Pfizer packs donations to DSCC? You guys have a great day too!
01:06:09.000 And then, of course, the biggest loser of today, Senator Elizabeth Warren, who denies the fact that she takes money from Big Pharma, even though FEC records show that she has received over $5.2 million in the last five years since 2020, the 2020 election season, from employees and executives at pharma companies, including donations from the Sackler family, which is the family behind the opioid crisis in this country.
01:06:36.000 So let's go ahead and play.
01:06:38.000 play clip number two.
01:06:39.000 Senator Warren, is your acceptance of $5.2 million from Big Pharma since 2020 the reason why you don't want RFK Jr. suing Big Pharma?
01:06:48.000 Is that why?
01:06:49.000 Check my website.
01:06:51.000 I don't take contributions from Big Pharma executives.
01:06:55.000 I don't take any corporate PAC money.
01:06:58.000 And you and your allies already know that.
01:07:02.000 Thank you.
01:07:03.000 What are your thoughts about that?
01:07:10.000 Yeah.
01:07:10.000 Yeah.
01:07:11.000 Oh, transparency, transparency.
01:07:13.000 I mean, that's the entire push around the Trump administration.
01:07:16.000 We are just seeing more than we've seen in decades in terms of what's happening in Washington.
01:07:22.000 So the more we can expose every one of these politicians that are doing something to hurt the American people or fleecing the American people, look what we're seeing with Elon Musk.
01:07:32.000 I mean, you know, what's flushing out is things that I think the American people just didn't understand the depth of what was actually happening with taxpayer money.
01:07:41.000 Did you ever think in your time that people would actually start using FEC Records as entertainment?
01:07:47.000 I mean, this is stuff that generally you'd get called a nerd for, like a policy wonk, and nobody would understand.
01:07:53.000 It'd be like, you know, blah, blah, blahs, you know, falling asleep now because nobody cares, right?
01:07:59.000 But now they've made it something that people actually want to look up themselves.
01:08:04.000 And you have everyday people that are so outraged that they're becoming like little data analysts, stay-at-home moms.
01:08:10.000 That are now, you know, amassing hundreds of thousands of followers on X accounts online because they're just sitting at home and posting data from the USAID website.
01:08:18.000 And I mean, it's just really quite something to see.
01:08:21.000 And hallelujah for that, right?
01:08:22.000 The more the American people can be informed, the better, all of us.
01:08:26.000 So yeah, I think that's what's happening with the Trump administration.
01:08:28.000 We're going to see more of this.
01:08:29.000 Yeah, we have, speaking of transparency, let's play clip number seven.
01:08:33.000 This is RFK Jr. at his hearing saying that he wants radical transparency, very similar to what you just said about this concept of more transparency.
01:08:42.000 Go ahead and play clip seven.
01:08:43.000 Transparent.
01:08:44.000 Yeah, my approach, as I said before, Senator, is radical transparency.
01:08:51.000 Democrats and Republicans ought to be able to come in and get information that was generated at taxpayer expense that is owned by the American taxpayer.
01:09:01.000 It shouldn't get redacted documents.
01:09:03.000 Public health agencies should be transparent.
01:09:06.000 And if we want Americans to restore trust in the public health agencies, we need transparency.
01:09:16.000 I want to say something about what you first said.
01:09:21.000 When I launched my campaign, it was about uniting Americans, Democrats and Republicans.
01:09:26.000 There's no issue that she's united more than this chronic health epidemic.
01:09:31.000 There's no such thing as Republican children or Democratic children.
01:09:35.000 These are our kids.
01:09:37.000 Sixty-six percent of them are damaged.
01:09:40.000 I know what a healthy kid looks like, because I had so many of them in my family.
01:09:45.000 I didn't know anybody with a food allergy growing up, peanut allergy.
01:09:50.000 Why do five of my kids have allergies?
01:09:53.000 Why are we seeing these explosions in diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, neurological diseases, depression, all these things that are related to toxic in the environment?
01:10:05.000 Why can't we just agree with each other to put differences about so many issues, intractable issues aside, and say, we're going to end this.
01:10:16.000 I don't think anybody is going to be able to do this like I have.
01:10:21.000 Because of my peculiar experience, because I've litigated against these agencies.
01:10:27.000 When you litigate against them, you get a PhD in corporate capture and how to unravel it.
01:10:33.000 I've written six books about these agencies.
01:10:36.000 I know a lot about them and I know how to fix it.
01:10:39.000 And there's nobody...
01:10:41.000 We'll fix it the way that I do because I'm not scared of vested interest.
01:10:46.000 I don't care.
01:10:47.000 I'm not here because I want a position or a job.
01:10:50.000 I have a very good life and a happy family.
01:10:53.000 This is something I don't need.
01:10:55.000 I want to do this because we're going to fix it.
01:10:58.000 And the other thing is we are attracting now a caliber of people to HHS like never before in history.
01:11:06.000 And there are entrepreneurs there.
01:11:09.000 They're disruptors.
01:11:10.000 They're innovators of immense talent that are walking away, many of them, from growing concerns.
01:11:15.000 They're not coming there or positioned.
01:11:18.000 They're coming there because they want to save our country.
01:11:20.000 And they're from across the political spectrum.
01:11:23.000 And all these Democrats are opposed to me for partisan issues.
01:11:27.000 They used to be my friends.
01:11:29.000 They agreed with me on all the environmental issues that I've been working on for my whole career.
01:11:34.000 Now they're against me because anything that President Trump does, any decision he makes, has to be...
01:11:41.000 Thoughts on that?
01:11:44.000 Well, first of all, I love what he said.
01:11:46.000 Children are not Republican or Democrat.
01:11:49.000 They're our children.
01:11:50.000 I mean, this should be a protected class in this country that, you know, they should be something that we should be worrying about all their, what they're doing and their food as well and their diets.
01:11:59.000 So he's hitting the right nerve there and the right touch points, I think, the way to say it.
01:12:04.000 Leave the politics out of it, because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
01:12:08.000 So anybody that is taking politics into it, you've got to wonder, what do we need to understand about them?
01:12:15.000 So the fact that he's taking the middle road in that way, in that kind of touch points, in those kind of talking points, I think is the right way to do it.
01:12:23.000 And then secondly, is it really just that he continues to stay on the point of, we have an epidemic in this country, and we do.
01:12:29.000 And if we don't address it right now, we're going to have generations of Americans that are going to be the unhealthiest in the world, and we're heading that way already.
01:12:38.000 So I think what he said, everything he stood, and he stood his ground, too.
01:12:41.000 I loved it because he was attacked by every corner.
01:12:44.000 And it was interesting to me because, you know, I'm old enough to know that the Kennedys were full-on Democrats for the longest time.
01:12:52.000 They were the royal Democratic family.
01:12:54.000 And to have him be sitting there is an interesting thing for me.
01:12:57.000 But I think he's saying all the right things, and he's trying to bring everybody to the middle to make sure that it's for all the right causes.
01:13:04.000 And he is addressing the right things.
01:13:07.000 It's nutrition and farming and all of what builds into poor health.
01:13:11.000 So he's beginning to address all that.
01:13:13.000 Transparency has got to be it, because you've got to start there.
01:13:16.000 Absolutely.
01:13:17.000 I have one last clip from RFK's hearing that I want to get your take on as somebody who is in the health beverage industry.
01:13:23.000 It's a clip of him talking about how we have a health crisis and it's an existential threat to our nation.
01:13:29.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number eight.
01:13:31.000 Seniors in this country and others are...
01:13:35.000 Let me ask you this because I only have so much time.
01:13:38.000 So we've already negotiated lowering prices for 10 drugs with Big Pharma.
01:13:43.000 And Big Pharma, by the way, opposes this.
01:13:45.000 They have not only are asking for a pause, they have filed lawsuits, but we've already negotiated the first 10 drugs.
01:13:52.000 And we want to expand it to the next 10 to 15 that the Biden administration has put forward.
01:13:58.000 Would you agree and continue that path of...
01:14:01.000 Really mandating that big pharma come to the table and negotiate drug prices for Medicare so we can lower those prices for Americans?
01:14:08.000 My understanding is that the executive order that was issued today, which I haven't seen, but I've read a summary.
01:14:14.000 Well, let me ask you this then, because you keep citing the Trump administration and you're just going to follow what they say.
01:14:20.000 Is that what you're doing?
01:14:20.000 You're just a rubber stamp in this position?
01:14:23.000 So it doesn't matter that you're before us.
01:14:26.000 It could be anybody coming before us, as long as they're a rubber stamp for this administration.
01:14:30.000 Regarding your beliefs and what you think?
01:14:32.000 I guess my question to you is if it really is fundamental to what you believe, how do you live with that?
01:14:38.000 How do you address those issues as you're moving forward?
01:14:42.000 You want me to answer the question, Senator?
01:14:44.000 Yeah.
01:14:44.000 You want me to answer the question?
01:14:46.000 No, I'm asking you.
01:14:48.000 Okay.
01:14:49.000 President Trump has asked me to end the chronic disease epidemic and make America healthy again.
01:14:57.000 So is that the only reason why you're at HHS? Is that the only reason why then you're at the HHS to address that one issue?
01:15:04.000 President Trump has asked me because I'm in a unique position to end that.
01:15:11.000 So basically in that clip, he talks about how it's a long clip.
01:15:15.000 It's about four minutes long.
01:15:16.000 And so he says that there's a chronic illness disease in this country.
01:15:20.000 And one of the reasons why so many Americans have chronic illness, believe it or not, and I'm sure that you know this because your drink has vitamin C, D, and zinc in it, is because of vitamin deficiency.
01:15:32.000 A lot of Americans are malnourished because our foods and the nutrition in this country has become so over-processed If you are getting three meals a day, you can be malnourished and you can have vitamin deficiency.
01:15:46.000 A lot of people don't understand that because they think, well, if I'm eating three meals a day or if I'm not hungry, how am I malnourished?
01:15:54.000 You think of people in impoverished third world countries who have no food as being malnourished.
01:16:00.000 But maybe you can speak to the importance of getting enough vitamins, getting enough nutrition, getting enough...
01:16:07.000 You know, balanced nutrition in your life and how grassy as a product is helping people maintain their nutritional values and their vitamin levels because I think that when we have somebody like Robert Kennedy In HHS,
01:16:24.000 as opposed to somebody like Rachel Levine who's, you know, pushing transgenderism and pushing more of like a woke agenda, people are going to finally understand that it's simple little things like changing your nutrition and maybe adding a multivitamin or adding more vitamins to your day-to-day routine can actually help alleviate a lot of diseases.
01:16:43.000 Like, I personally, I mean, I don't really talk about my own, like, health on the program a lot, but I started feeling really fatigued and tired a few months ago, and I went to the doctor and had to get a full blood test, and they told me that I was actually vitamin D deficient.
01:16:58.000 And so they prescribed me vitamin D, and I started taking these high doses of vitamin D, like, higher than your typical vitamin D doses.
01:17:06.000 But that's another reason why I'm grateful for a product like Grossi is because, you know, Not only was I vitamin D deficient before I started taking vitamin D supplements, but because I'm on the go and I travel so much, it's hard for me to carry big bottles of vitamins with me everywhere I go.
01:17:23.000 I don't want to have to carry these giant bottles.
01:17:25.000 And so for me, when I have grassy, I'm going to be drinking bottles of water every single day.
01:17:30.000 So knowing that I can drink.
01:17:31.000 A water that's not going to make me gain weight because it doesn't have, you know, 30 grams of sugar and doesn't have 50 grams of carbs in it.
01:17:38.000 It's helping me.
01:17:39.000 It's actually helping me with my own vitamin deficiency and I feel less fatigued now that I'm getting, you know, higher doses of vitamin D. Well, your body has needs every day and if those needs are not met, you start to head down a path of, you know, opening yourself up to disease and all kinds of issues.
01:18:00.000 Hydration is one of them, of course, staying hydrated and keeping a strong immunity system is your biggest defense as well.
01:18:06.000 So that's why we went that path with, you know, DC and Zinc to make sure that our product had good immunity boosting, natural immunity boosting parameters in our drink.
01:18:16.000 And barley grass juice powder was the other base that we just talked about that had long medicinal histories as well.
01:18:22.000 So, you know, you could take our drink on the run and you're going to have water or something else anyway that day.
01:18:27.000 You might as well do something to help your body.
01:18:29.000 But your body has needs, and processed foods have low nutritional values.
01:18:33.000 So in some cases, ingredients that are not good for you at all or could create or begin to create the condition for chronic disease to take place in your body.
01:18:43.000 So the more you can have the right amount of good ingredients, good products, processed the least amount.
01:18:51.000 Natural ingredients and all the vitamins and minerals you need and keeping your immunity strong, those are your biggest defenses from diseases that can enter into your body and especially with kids.
01:19:01.000 So the earlier we can hit with them, the better we can protect them with all of the right vitamins, minerals, and products to include organic products.
01:19:12.000 The better off we're all going to be as a society.
01:19:15.000 Children can drink grassy too.
01:19:17.000 It's not just an adult beverage.
01:19:18.000 It doesn't have alcohol in it.
01:19:20.000 I'm saying that it's not an adult beverage in the sense that you can give this to your children too.
01:19:24.000 So if you're packing lunches for your kids and you're putting bottled water or little cartons of milk or juice, a lot of those juices that you think are healthy for your kids are loaded with sugar and they're full of high fructose corn syrup and so they're not actually good.
01:19:38.000 I've noticed that even on the boxes that say organic.
01:19:41.000 Sometimes at the grocery store, they're not actually organic, and they're full of sugar.
01:19:46.000 They're full of sugar.
01:19:48.000 Right.
01:19:49.000 Yeah, I mean, you hit the nail on the head.
01:19:51.000 I mean, especially for kids.
01:19:53.000 We are a great product for kids and mothers that want to pack their children's lunches with a low-quality organic.
01:20:00.000 You can trust because we're certified organic, but they can have a functional product for a child.
01:20:05.000 Especially in a school system, right?
01:20:07.000 Because if a kid, one child comes in is sick and they spread it with the rest.
01:20:10.000 And if we could make it so their immunity is very strong and help us do that and have them go to a low sugar drink and a very low calorie drink.
01:20:19.000 We're 35 calories, by the way.
01:20:20.000 We did that on purpose.
01:20:22.000 We wanted to make sure it was a low calorie drink.
01:20:24.000 Then that addresses the obesity issue, it addresses the diabetic issue, it addresses the immunity issue, and all those things.
01:20:31.000 So yeah, our children is an area that I think there should be a safe zone around them, but our product is very good for all members of the family, and we would really encourage that significantly.
01:20:42.000 Absolutely.
01:20:43.000 Well, I know that I have a lot of people who are health conscious and it's still the new year, you guys.
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01:21:50.000 And again, it has your daily toast of vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc.
01:21:55.000 And so I wanted to bring Chris on my program tonight because Not only are we trying to make America healthy again, and that officially begins today with the confirmation of RFK Jr. as the HHS Secretary, but we also want to make sure that we are supporting the parallel economy.
01:22:16.000 Because part of making America great again also means supporting the parallel economy.
01:22:20.000 And one of the benefits of President Trump's tariffs and these new economic policies of the Trump administration is that it's going to start to increase competition by...
01:22:30.000 By forcing, I mean, everybody has a choice.
01:22:32.000 You can still buy your products overseas if you want to.
01:22:35.000 But truly, it's better off and it's actually safer for your health and safer for your family and also safer for your pocketbook to be investing into American-made.
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01:22:49.000 And so that's something that I obviously support here at Loomer Unleashed, and it's why I'm really proud to have Grassi as a sponsor, because I know that I'm not supporting some foreign company in China.
01:23:01.000 I'm not supporting the CCP with your money when you watch my show and you purchase the products on this show.
01:23:08.000 So I just want to thank you, Chris, for coming on tonight and encourage everybody watching to check out...
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01:25:12.000 You know, it also is a good transition into the next subject tonight, and we're going to be talking with Lindy Lee, who's going to be joining us momentarily, because I am very critical of China, and that's one of the reasons why I'm critical of Lindy Lee and why I'm happy that Lindy Lee is coming on the program tonight to address these reports, because I think that we have a lot of CCP influence in our country.
01:25:35.000 I'm not saying that Lindy Lee is a CCP official, but I do think that we need to be weary of Of Chinese influence in our political system and our economic system.
01:25:46.000 And I personally just find it to be suspicious that a woman who was born in China by her own admission and did fundraising for Democrat politicians and has a history of bashing President Trump is now trying to ingratiate herself in GOP circles.
01:26:02.000 So why don't we go ahead and show some of these tweets to get this rolling to set the stage for the viewers.
01:26:09.000 So that they can see the tweets that I was replying to.
01:26:12.000 And you can see how, you know, we can go to Glenn Beck's Twitter account and we can go to Dinesh D'Souza's Twitter account and we can go to Benny Johnson's Twitter account and you can see firsthand, you know, how these individuals had this woman on their program and yet nobody really seems to want to ask the questions that matter.
01:26:30.000 And we're going to do that here tonight because a lot of people have a lot of questions and I'm not afraid of rocking the boat.
01:26:36.000 I'm not afraid of...
01:26:38.000 Holding people accountable.
01:26:39.000 And again, it's going to be a respectful conversation, but I think that a lot of people have some questions and they're asking themselves how you can go from calling President Trump a serial rapist just several months ago to then pretending that all of a sudden you're a member of MAGA. So let's go ahead and show some of these clips.
01:26:59.000 You can see this is the tweet I posted yesterday.
01:27:03.000 I asked Glenn Beck, I said, why are you promoting an obvious op, Glenn Beck?
01:27:07.000 Lindy Lee is not who she claims to be.
01:27:09.000 She was born in China, and now she's trying to subvert and infiltrate the GOP. Where have we seen this before?
01:27:15.000 How do we know she doesn't have any loyalties to the CCP? See her many anti-Trump posts below.
01:27:20.000 And we're going to ask Lindy Lee tonight if she works for the CCP, and we're going to ask her point blank if she has any affiliations or allegiances to the CCP, and I hope that we can have an honest conversation.
01:27:32.000 Again, I'm not accusing her of anything, but we are going to have a conversation tonight about this.
01:27:36.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip from Glenn Beck if we have it.
01:27:39.000 Let's get it.
01:27:40.000 People are freaking out in the Democratic Party, and they should, especially if you had anything to do with the last election.
01:27:48.000 I mean, you know, they raised a billion dollars, and it looked like a lot of it was wasted.
01:27:55.000 Where did that money go?
01:27:57.000 I don't know.
01:27:59.000 But there's somebody that has been seen on many podcasts now.
01:28:04.000 She's a former Democratic fundraiser.
01:28:07.000 She's still a Democrat, but she left the DNC as an insider and has become an independent thinker.
01:28:16.000 Lindy is joining us now.
01:28:18.000 Lindy Lee.
01:28:19.000 Welcome, Lindy.
01:28:21.000 It's so good to be with you.
01:28:22.000 Thank you so much for having me.
01:28:23.000 Now, I'm guessing that's something you never, ever thought in your life you would say.
01:28:29.000 Good morning, Glenn Beck, you mean?
01:28:32.000 Yeah, good morning, Glenn.
01:28:33.000 I've watched you from afar for much of my life, so I do think it will be happening this week, though.
01:28:39.000 You're certainly right.
01:28:39.000 It's been a whirlwind, and I'm no longer a Democrat.
01:28:43.000 Oh, really?
01:28:44.000 Because I just read someplace that you haven't left the party, but you have now officially left the party?
01:28:50.000 I have left the party, absolutely.
01:28:52.000 This is not how I saw my year going, but the party left me with no choice.
01:28:57.000 I just can't abide by the woke and trans insanity, not to mention the gross mismanagement of the money that I spent work so hard to raise.
01:29:07.000 And Glenn, I hate to correct you, but it wasn't a billion.
01:29:11.000 It was $2.5 billion because a campaign raised $1.5 billion and the super PAC, Future Forward, raised another billion.
01:29:18.000 Where did all that money go?
01:29:19.000 Where did it go, Lindy?
01:29:21.000 To oligarchs, to celebrities, to five-star hotels.
01:29:25.000 Half a million dollars is spent on putting Kamala Harris's mug On a sphere in Las Vegas.
01:29:31.000 Obviously, that was a wise decision.
01:29:34.000 And on mega celebrity concerts, even right down the street on the steps of the Philadelphia Art Museum.
01:29:40.000 How many votes do you think that garnered for her?
01:29:42.000 I would wager maybe like negative votes because people were pissed off that the traffic was snarled the entire day.
01:29:48.000 And who puts a bill for that?
01:29:50.000 Taxpayers, right?
01:29:51.000 And the damage done to our community.
01:29:53.000 And she did this in so many cities.
01:29:56.000 Like, who thought that was a good idea?
01:29:57.000 Actually, I know exactly who thought that was a good idea, but it was just these people are brain dead.
01:30:02.000 We also have a clip from her appearance on Benny Johnson's show, too.
01:30:16.000 I want to go ahead and play this clip because...
01:30:19.000 You know, we have Lindy coming on and she's going to address these allegations.
01:30:23.000 But she was on Benny Johnson's show and says that she's not a CCP asset and that she doesn't work for the Communist Party of China and that she's tired of people saying these things about her.
01:30:35.000 So, again, we're going to give her an opportunity to respond tonight.
01:30:38.000 But here's her other appearance on Benny Johnson's show.
01:30:40.000 Justice Warriors, all of a sudden, because I dare to criticize their queen, Kamala, I'm now a Chinese spy.
01:30:48.000 I'm a spy for the regime that murdered my family in cold blood.
01:30:53.000 Am I allowed to curse on here?
01:30:55.000 Please.
01:30:56.000 Give me a fucking break.
01:30:57.000 Seriously?
01:31:00.000 And then we have another clip of her on Dinesh D'Souza's show because, as I said before, a lot of people are wondering why all of a sudden the GOP is having this woman on every single show.
01:31:12.000 You know, to talk about this narrative.
01:31:13.000 And again, this is kind of this concept of tokenization, as I said before, where the GOP, in my opinion, doesn't really do enough vetting.
01:31:21.000 They are kind of too eager to welcome people to our side if they're willing to criticize Kamala Harris or criticize Joe Biden.
01:31:28.000 And I personally just think that there should be more vetting and also accountability.
01:31:34.000 Some sense of humbleness from these individuals on the left who have said atrocious things about President Trump or terrible things about the MAGA movement or about the GOP and haven't really made amends or, you know...
01:31:48.000 Committed, as I would call, verbal reparations for their sins against MAGA. I mean, it's kind of a big deal to accuse President Trump and his supporters of being Klan members just because you don't agree with the policy platforms of the GOP. So let's go ahead and play this clip from Dinesh D'Souza.
01:32:07.000 Democracy and, you know, opportunity for all.
01:32:12.000 And so it seems very contradictory.
01:32:15.000 But then beneath it all...
01:32:17.000 You realize that they actually employ many of the same tactics that communists do.
01:32:23.000 And what are they?
01:32:25.000 Excommunication, public disowning, public shaming.
01:32:30.000 And these extreme views, these extreme ideologies that you must adhere to, lest you be publicly excommunicated like I have by the party.
01:32:43.000 Democrats are shouting slogans like freedom and democracy.
01:32:47.000 And we now have Lindy Lee live.
01:32:52.000 So joining me now is Lindy Lee, former, she says, former Democrat political commentator and Democrat strategist who says she has now seen the light and is now a conservative.
01:33:03.000 So welcome to the program, Lindy.
01:33:05.000 Thanks for coming on tonight.
01:33:07.000 Laura, thank you so much for having me.
01:33:10.000 Yep, it's a pleasure to have you tonight.
01:33:11.000 Yeah, and I will say, I will say that, you know, it's not often that people who are on the other side of my criticisms or the other side of my reporting agree to come on the show.
01:33:23.000 And so while I... As we do have ideological differences, I do respect the fact that you had the courage at least to come on the program tonight and address some of these claims and these allegations against you and some of the inconsistencies.
01:33:41.000 And I wanted to give you an opportunity tonight to inform the viewers and inform people across the country who have You know, witness your change of tune over the last several months since the presidential election, since you've become an outspoken critic of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,
01:33:59.000 because we have found there to be some inconsistencies in your statements as you've gone on your media tour across the country, speaking to various conservative talk show hosts or politicians about your new political transformation.
01:34:14.000 And so I'm hoping that we can just have an honest, open, respectful conversation.
01:34:23.000 We have this tweet.
01:34:30.000 We can pull it up.
01:34:31.000 When people were commenting on your segment from Glenn Beck, you said that the Chinese Communist Party murdered my great-grandpa in cold blood.
01:34:40.000 I condemn the CCP and have all my life, including today.
01:34:44.000 You said I can't even speak Chinese.
01:34:47.000 I condemn Xi Jinping.
01:34:48.000 I'm a proud American and would die for our country.
01:34:51.000 People are defaming me, and it breaks my mother-effing heart.
01:34:55.000 So this is the one that really caught my attention, right?
01:34:59.000 Because I'm aware of the fact that you ran for Congress two times, and I also ran for Congress two times as a young woman.
01:35:05.000 I think we were both the same age when we filed to run for Congress.
01:35:08.000 I was 25. I think you were 24 when you first filed.
01:35:12.000 So I can relate.
01:35:14.000 To what it's like being a young woman running for Congress.
01:35:18.000 Well, yeah, it can be hard going up against the political establishments within your own party.
01:35:24.000 But one thing that I always made sure when I ran for Congress is that I never told a lie and I made sure that everything that I said was backed up with receipts and that I could prove every claim that I was making, especially about my background, because it's very important that if you are running for public office, that people feel that they can trust you.
01:35:42.000 And so I wanted to just ask you up front, you know, you said that you didn't speak Chinese.
01:35:48.000 And yet, I've posted multiple videos of you from your time running for Congress and multiple interviews that you've done that show you speaking Mandarin, and obviously there's different dialects of Chinese, Mandarin Chinese.
01:36:01.000 And so why did you say that you don't speak Chinese when you clearly do speak Chinese?
01:36:05.000 I encourage, Laura, I saw the first clip.
01:36:09.000 I don't think I saw any subsequent ones, but in terms of the first clip, I actually encourage people to watch it.
01:36:16.000 I think I said, thank you for inviting me or thank you for having me in Chinese.
01:36:22.000 And the rest, 99% of what I said was English.
01:36:24.000 You could tell how deeply uncomfortable I was.
01:36:27.000 My Chinese is at a rudimentary level.
01:36:29.000 If you think a kindergarten level of Chinese is speaking Chinese, then fine.
01:36:33.000 But honestly, my inability to speak Chinese has become a running family joke.
01:36:38.000 My family, my parents especially, tease me because I'm not able to converse.
01:36:43.000 I speak to them in English, and they speak to me in Chinese.
01:36:45.000 I can understand them, but I can't articulate myself very well.
01:36:49.000 It's interesting.
01:36:50.000 It's basically Chinglish, and it's really, really bad.
01:36:52.000 So, Laura, I stand by my statement.
01:36:55.000 I'm not able to have a fluent conversation.
01:36:57.000 And I saw another clip floating around, and someone spliced together a video of me speaking Chinese, but it was a two-hour event.
01:37:06.000 And they took like the five instances of me speaking Chinese using very broken Chinese.
01:37:12.000 And I even said, what is that word?
01:37:14.000 It was for a very simple word.
01:37:17.000 So I learned my lesson today.
01:37:20.000 What I should have said is I speak shitty Chinese.
01:37:25.000 I think the lesson in this situation is not to make broad sweeping generalizations.
01:37:29.000 Yes, I can say, hi, how are you?
01:37:31.000 Like, goodbye.
01:37:32.000 Thank you for having me.
01:37:33.000 But I cannot have an intellectual discussion with you in Chinese.
01:37:37.000 Well, I want to play a clip for you.
01:37:40.000 Again, you said that you speak shitty Chinese and that it's hard for you to communicate in Chinese and that you're able to have...
01:37:50.000 Conversations.
01:37:51.000 But then again, you said in multiple interviews that English is your second language.
01:37:56.000 And so if English is your second language, what is your first language?
01:38:02.000 Chinese.
01:38:02.000 I left China when I was three to go to England, at which point I learned English and it became my language.
01:38:08.000 Okay.
01:38:08.000 And so I just want to play this clip.
01:38:10.000 I want to be fair, and so I want to play the clip so that we can give the viewers full context here so that they can see the clips themselves because I don't want there to be any accusations that I'm splicing anything.
01:38:21.000 And again, I have not edited anything.
01:38:23.000 Oh, no, no, no.
01:38:24.000 I understand.
01:38:25.000 I'm just letting you know that I have not done any post-production editing on this.
01:38:28.000 That wasn't me accusing you of anything, to be honest.
01:38:31.000 For the sake of this conversation, I just want...
01:38:35.000 To give you the benefit of the doubt, the only thing that I've done is put the Loomer Unleashed logo on the video, the watermark, for the sake of letting people know who posted the video.
01:38:47.000 If we're going to post the video, can we show the whole thing, like the whole three minutes then?
01:38:52.000 Because I only speak Chinese at the very top.
01:38:55.000 You know that I do, right?
01:38:56.000 And I'm just taking the state.
01:38:58.000 This is a different video.
01:38:59.000 So we're going to play the clip of you in an English language saying that English is your second language.
01:39:03.000 Let's just play clip number 10 really quick.
01:39:06.000 But we can play the full video.
01:39:08.000 That is fine.
01:39:09.000 We will do that.
01:39:09.000 Play a clip number 10. We have the clip segmented from the part where you said English is your second language, but we're going to download the full clip.
01:39:19.000 Just in the meantime, Cannon, go ahead and play clip number 10, though.
01:39:24.000 All right.
01:39:29.000 Thank you for inviting us, Lindy Lee, to conduct a follow-up interview with you.
01:39:32.000 I know we met when we were down at the march for a short interview, but we didn't get a chance to...
01:39:37.000 Fully do a follow-up, so thanks again for inviting us back.
01:39:41.000 Thank you so much for coming, especially in the flurry of snow.
01:39:44.000 Really appreciate it.
01:39:46.000 No problem.
01:39:46.000 Thanks for having us.
01:39:48.000 I would love to begin by picking up with the story you told down at the March of your background.
01:39:53.000 Well, I'm a first-generation immigrant.
01:39:56.000 English is my second language.
01:39:57.000 My family and I came here with very little, but we built something amazing out of it through hard work and determination and perseverance.
01:40:05.000 And that's what I want to keep alive for the American people.
01:40:08.000 If you work hard, you should be able...
01:40:10.000 We have the full video, and I will post the full video on Twitter for people to see so that they can have the full context.
01:40:16.000 But for the sake of the interview, because, you know, you probably don't want to be here for three hours, we are going to just continue playing the rest of the clips.
01:40:23.000 I just want to say...
01:40:24.000 There's no inconsistency in what I said.
01:40:27.000 English is my second language.
01:40:28.000 I don't take that back.
01:40:30.000 That is the truth.
01:40:31.000 We have another clip because you said that you speak shitty Chinese.
01:40:34.000 So I want to go ahead and play clip number 12. Let's go ahead and play clip number 12. Newtown Square,康舟, we're not far away, right?
01:40:50.000 Who can imagine that there are 26 children and 6 teachers will be...
01:40:57.000 We're all the first generation, right?
01:41:01.000 We're all the Chinese people, right?
01:41:04.000 We're all the hard work.
01:41:14.000 My quality, this is what I can eat.
01:41:17.000 The beauty.
01:41:17.000 The beauty, yes.
01:41:19.000 Only one thing?
01:41:20.000 Only one thing.
01:41:23.000 Actually, you can努力.
01:41:26.000 When you're tired, you're still going to take care of your dreams.
01:41:30.000 When I sent you back, I'm sorry.
01:41:34.000 We just talked about it.
01:41:36.000 You know, we have a lot of great Chinese children.
01:41:40.000 So I do not speak Chinese, but I think that you clearly do speak Chinese because I would say that that is a lot more than just saying hi, how are you.
01:41:51.000 In that clip, I literally ask how do you say that word.
01:41:55.000 That's asking how you say a word, but like I said, I speak Spanish as well, for example.
01:41:59.000 I do speak English and Spanish, but that's a lot more.
01:42:03.000 He spliced together five instances in which I spoke Chinese.
01:42:07.000 And you can hear me say, you know, you could hear the English.
01:42:11.000 But you can say, you know, but that's clearly a lot more.
01:42:15.000 I mean, you spoke with it for at least 30 seconds, which is a lot more than just saying, you know, like, ni hao.
01:42:21.000 30 seconds interspersed in a two-hour event.
01:42:23.000 Laura, come on.
01:42:24.000 No, it's not come on.
01:42:25.000 I think that we really need to have a conversation about this because people are very critical and they should be given your past statements about President Trump and the things that you've said about the MAGA movement.
01:42:37.000 Yes, really, because we had a problem with Chinese infiltration in our political system, and I'm not accusing you of being a CCP asset, Lindy, but when you say things like you do not speak Chinese as a defense mechanism and reply to people's criticisms of your interview with Glenn Beck, and then I find multiple clips of you speaking to Chinese...
01:42:58.000 Speaking is broken.
01:42:59.000 You proved my point.
01:43:00.000 I want, like...
01:43:01.000 You proved my point.
01:43:02.000 The video clearly shows me struggling through the Chinese.
01:43:06.000 I encourage people to watch it, and I encourage people to watch the first clip.
01:43:10.000 We have another video as well.
01:43:11.000 This is a campaign video that you put out.
01:43:14.000 And it's three minutes long.
01:43:16.000 You can't just show the first five seconds in which I say thank you for having me.
01:43:19.000 I'm happy to post.
01:43:20.000 This is a full video right here.
01:43:22.000 You said that you don't speak Chinese.
01:43:24.000 I showed videos of you speaking Chinese.
01:43:26.000 This is a video, Lindy Lee for U.S. Congress, that you put out.
01:43:31.000 And it's on your YouTube page.
01:43:32.000 Let's go ahead and play this video.
01:43:33.000 I didn't post this video, by the way, This is not my video, and it's not on my page.
01:43:51.000 Saying it's not on your page.
01:43:53.000 Yeah, this is not on my page.
01:43:54.000 I've never seen this video in my life.
01:43:57.000 My YouTube channel is youtube.com slash Lindy Lee.
01:44:03.000 I don't know where you found this, but it's not mine.
01:44:09.000 I can't hear you, Laura.
01:44:16.000 Sorry.
01:44:17.000 I need to pull up the video.
01:44:19.000 Can you hear me now?
01:44:21.000 Yeah, that's not my page.
01:44:22.000 We're gonna pull up the page.
01:44:24.000 This is not my page.
01:44:26.000 I don't know who made it, but this is not me.
01:44:28.000 It's someone impersonating me.
01:44:30.000 The video, though, at the end has an address.
01:44:34.000 Let's go to the address, Cannon.
01:44:36.000 Let's go ahead and show the address.
01:44:39.000 It said that people should make their checks payable to Lindy Lee for U.S. Congress.
01:44:43.000 Not my address.
01:44:45.000 That address, 924 Arch Street, is not your address?
01:44:48.000 Not my address.
01:44:50.000 You have not seen that address before?
01:44:52.000 No, not my address.
01:44:53.000 I have a lot of supporters.
01:44:55.000 Not my address.
01:44:56.000 I definitely don't live there.
01:44:57.000 I don't live there.
01:44:58.000 I'm in the middle of Center City, okay?
01:45:00.000 It's not about whether you live there, but it's an address that...
01:45:04.000 It triangulates to a location in Chinatown in Philadelphia.
01:45:08.000 Laura, that's not my YouTube channel.
01:45:09.000 I'm telling you what my YouTube channel is.
01:45:11.000 Was it an office?
01:45:12.000 Because I understand that you have family members who are involved in real estate from my own investigation into you and your family.
01:45:18.000 And I would like to know, is this address either one of the addresses that you use as a campaign office, campaign facility, or is it an address that your family member or one of your relatives owns or utilizes?
01:45:31.000 We do not own it.
01:45:33.000 But do they rent it?
01:45:35.000 Do they rent it?
01:45:36.000 We might have rented it for my campaign.
01:45:38.000 I can't remember what happened 10 years ago.
01:45:40.000 They might have rented that place as a campaign office.
01:45:42.000 I can't speak to that, but we don't own that address, and it's not my address.
01:45:48.000 But it doesn't have to be your address in the sense that, you know, like my P.O. box is not like my physical property.
01:45:55.000 Laura, I don't have nothing to do with that video.
01:45:57.000 I have nothing to do with the slides that you just showed me.
01:45:58.000 I can't read them.
01:46:00.000 So you don't know whether or not when you ran for Congress, you had or rented an office at 924- Oh no, it was on Porter Street.
01:46:07.000 But I can't speak to that additional location.
01:46:10.000 Okay, I had many supporters around the country.
01:46:12.000 I cannot speak to everybody who was raising money for me who was collecting checks.
01:46:17.000 I just can't, Laura.
01:46:18.000 I'm sorry.
01:46:19.000 Isn't it concerning to you that there appears to be an address in Chinatown that you're not saying that your family doesn't have connections to it?
01:46:26.000 Not concerning, but Chinatown is literally where I was running, so...
01:46:30.000 Okay, but you're not concerned that people are accepting checks and that they have, you know, non-English language there, you know...
01:46:38.000 Asking for money.
01:46:40.000 As long as it's a United States citizen, it doesn't matter.
01:46:42.000 I mean, even in the city of Philadelphia, the ballot, we have either Chinese or Spanish ballots.
01:46:48.000 A lot of people here have Asian descent, so.
01:46:51.000 Okay.
01:46:52.000 And that YouTube page, this is the first time I'm seeing, I'm telling you again, my YouTube page is youtube.com slash Lindy Lee.
01:46:58.000 Okay.
01:46:59.000 All right.
01:47:00.000 I just want to go through a couple questions, and I just want you to just give me honest replies, if you can, and then...
01:47:06.000 Yeah, we'll go from there.
01:47:07.000 What age were you when you came to the United States of America for the first time?
01:47:13.000 Five.
01:47:14.000 Five.
01:47:14.000 I went to England before.
01:47:16.000 Okay, but when you came to the United States, you're sure that it was five years old?
01:47:22.000 Five, yeah.
01:47:23.000 Okay, so I want to show you some statements that you've made.
01:47:26.000 Here is your Instagram post from April 30th of 2024. That's your Instagram, correct?
01:47:33.000 Lindy underscore Lee?
01:47:35.000 Hey, there's a photo of you and Jill and Joe Biden.
01:47:38.000 And you posted this on April 30th, 2024. And you said that spending time with POTUS and FLOTUS is always such a tremendous honor, especially for a proud and grateful American like me who came to our beloved country at age four with a few bucks and a world of dreams.
01:47:54.000 Super excited to host President Joe Biden tomorrow for his first Asian-American-led fundraiser.
01:48:00.000 As POTUS says, this is a big effing deal.
01:48:03.000 So again, you would think that, you know, as somebody who says that you're very...
01:48:07.000 Laura, I can't.
01:48:09.000 I took a guess.
01:48:10.000 But I just asked you if you were sure.
01:48:12.000 I said, are you sure that it was five?
01:48:13.000 And you said yes.
01:48:14.000 I thought it was right.
01:48:15.000 I don't know what to say to you.
01:48:16.000 I thought I was right.
01:48:17.000 I can't at this point remember.
01:48:20.000 It's either 1994 or 1995, Laura.
01:48:23.000 You got me on this one.
01:48:25.000 I just don't know what to say.
01:48:27.000 All right.
01:48:27.000 We have another publication here.
01:48:31.000 Okay.
01:48:33.000 Okay.
01:48:33.000 According to my research team, I just want to say that the Arch Street address that we showed up on the screen, it's an address that is tied to your family's real estate holdings.
01:48:45.000 And so hopefully that we have the document.
01:48:49.000 We're going to put the document up on the screen because I think it's important that we have full transparency here.
01:48:54.000 Can you please not dox me?
01:48:55.000 I'm not.
01:48:56.000 Well, just make sure.
01:48:57.000 You just said don't dox you.
01:48:59.000 I'm not going to put any information, but if it's not your address, How would it be doxing you, right?
01:49:04.000 So I'm just trying to Make sure.
01:49:06.000 Well, you're saying, telling me that it's part of my family's real estate holdings.
01:49:09.000 It's an office.
01:49:10.000 It's an office.
01:49:11.000 It's an office that may have been rented by your family, but you said that it wasn't a campaign office, but you're saying that you don't live there.
01:49:19.000 So this isn't doxing because you just said moments ago that you do not.
01:49:22.000 But you're saying that my family, it's part of our real estate holdings.
01:49:25.000 We own a lot of real estate.
01:49:26.000 You just said that that wasn't a campaign office.
01:49:29.000 And so here's a document.
01:49:30.000 But you're saying it's one of my family's real estate holdings.
01:49:33.000 And I don't know the name.
01:49:34.000 I don't know the address of every single real estate holding.
01:49:37.000 So if you put it out there, people can swarm my parents, my family.
01:49:40.000 The address is the same address as the address that I just showed before.
01:49:44.000 It's the same exact address as in the video.
01:49:47.000 I'm just asking you not to endanger my family.
01:49:49.000 I'm not endangering your family, but I will say that I do have a form right here.
01:49:53.000 It's an official campaign document.
01:49:56.000 Canon, just show me the document right now on the screen here, please, because I will respect her wishes, but it's...
01:50:02.000 It's an official document that says Lindy Lee for Congress, and it says that that address is the address of your mailing address.
01:50:12.000 And so I'm looking at this document here.
01:50:14.000 It says Lindy Lee for Congress.
01:50:15.000 It's an FEC Form 1 revised from 2009. And the telephone number is blanked out.
01:50:26.000 I'm going to show the document with the address because it's the same address that I just showed.
01:50:30.000 You confirmed that you do not live there, so I feel that I'm not doxing you right now because you just confirmed that that's not your personal residence.
01:50:36.000 So we blocked out the telephone number, but I'm going to show the form so that you can see for yourself that the address on the form is the same form in the video that I just showed you that you said isn't your campaign video, and it's...
01:50:50.000 On an official campaign document.
01:50:53.000 But I'm just saying that it could be associated with my parents, so you could be...
01:50:58.000 I mean, if you really feel the need to, then go ahead.
01:51:01.000 I already showed the address, but I'm just letting you know.
01:51:03.000 So here it is.
01:51:05.000 You can scroll up.
01:51:06.000 Scroll up to the very top, please, Cannon.
01:51:07.000 It says Lindy Lee for Congress.
01:51:09.000 This is an official FEC form.
01:51:11.000 It says Form 1. You can scroll down.
01:51:13.000 Do you know an individual by the name of Richard Lee?
01:51:16.000 That's my father.
01:51:18.000 Okay, that's your father.
01:51:19.000 And so as I said before, I asked you if this address that was located in Chinatown, which is affiliated with your campaign, where you said you ran for Congress, was your address.
01:51:27.000 You said that you didn't know that address and that you had never used that address.
01:51:32.000 And that clearly shows.
01:51:33.000 Go back to the screen, please, Cannon.
01:51:35.000 Let's put that up.
01:51:35.000 It says 924 Arch Street, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Richard Lee.
01:51:43.000 And it says that your father was the treasurer of your campaign.
01:51:47.000 And it says Lindy Lee for Congress.
01:51:49.000 And so, you know, you have to understand, Lindy, this is the reason why there's people out there that are questioning your intentions and whether or not, you know, you are who you say you are.
01:51:58.000 My family owns a lot of real estate.
01:52:02.000 I know, I just, I told you, I've done my research, trust me.
01:52:05.000 I know your family owns a lot of research because I know that you were operating out of an address out of Chinatown, which I just showed you, which you denied profusely.
01:52:13.000 But that wasn't our campaign office.
01:52:14.000 Well, what is that address then?
01:52:16.000 It's on your official FEC document for Lindy Lee for Congress.
01:52:19.000 Something West Porter.
01:52:21.000 That's the address of the treasurer.
01:52:23.000 That was the treasurer form.
01:52:25.000 Our campaign was located on West Porter Street or something.
01:52:28.000 So you don't know where your parents live?
01:52:31.000 I'm definitely not going to tell you where my parents live, but they don't even live in the city.
01:52:34.000 They don't live in Philadelphia.
01:52:35.000 Right, so you just confirmed.
01:52:37.000 I'm just trying to understand your logic here because you're saying that I'm going to potentially dox your family.
01:52:43.000 It's really not that complex.
01:52:44.000 That was the address of the treasurer.
01:52:47.000 That might have been the office my dad was using at the time.
01:52:49.000 My parents don't live in the city.
01:52:51.000 They live somewhere else.
01:52:51.000 So then your father, that video that I posted, your father then was accepting contributions in Chinese language.
01:52:59.000 From that video I showed you, asking people to send checks to that address that is listed on an official FEC form for your campaign.
01:53:08.000 As long as they're American citizens, what's wrong with that?
01:53:12.000 Well, I think you can understand why people are questioning why somebody running for office is soliciting campaign contributions in Chinese.
01:53:21.000 I wasn't.
01:53:22.000 Some of my supporters were.
01:53:23.000 I can't speak to what everyone is doing.
01:53:25.000 But as long as they're American citizens, that's to be encouraged.
01:53:28.000 Everyone should be able to participate in democracy.
01:53:30.000 And we were very careful to vet all of our donors.
01:53:33.000 Okay, we'll get into that as well, because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.
01:53:37.000 So you said that you came here when you were, you said five, and then I showed you in your own Instagram post.
01:53:43.000 Let's go back to the Instagram post.
01:53:44.000 You said four.
01:53:45.000 We have an interview that you did.
01:53:49.000 For a publication, it says, meet the youngest ever female congressional candidate.
01:53:55.000 Let's get this article up on the screen, please.
01:53:57.000 From March 12, 2016. And it says that Lee, who is running as a Democrat, moved to the United States with her parents when she was five years old.
01:54:07.000 Do you see that?
01:54:08.000 Yeah, so I'm like not clear.
01:54:09.000 I'm actually not even clear whether it's four or five.
01:54:11.000 I have to ask my mom.
01:54:13.000 Okay.
01:54:13.000 Well, we have another one, too.
01:54:15.000 Let's go to the other graphic where you said that you were six years old.
01:54:19.000 Let's go to this one.
01:54:20.000 No, that's definitely not true.
01:54:21.000 I have nothing to do with this article, by the way.
01:54:23.000 This article is false.
01:54:26.000 There are a number of inaccuracies.
01:54:28.000 I definitely came to America when I was either four or five, definitely not six, definitely not six, and I don't speak fluent Mandarin.
01:54:34.000 They never interviewed me for this article, and I have nothing to do with it.
01:54:37.000 Okay.
01:54:38.000 Well, again, like I said, I'm asking you questions because...
01:54:41.000 I've done my own research, and so if that's what you say, you know, you're saying that you were not interviewed and that there are inconsistencies?
01:54:48.000 Okay, but I... Laura, you have a lot of articles written about you, too.
01:54:51.000 Yeah, no, I understand that, but I also asked you, point blank, what age you came here, and you said five, and then I looked at your Facebook post, and you said four.
01:55:00.000 I don't remember whether it's four or five.
01:55:04.000 I don't know why it's that important to you.
01:55:06.000 I just don't remember.
01:55:07.000 It's so long ago.
01:55:08.000 I don't remember.
01:55:09.000 It's either four or five.
01:55:10.000 Okay.
01:55:11.000 Next question.
01:55:13.000 Are you familiar?
01:55:14.000 It's okay.
01:55:15.000 So are you familiar with an organization and a company called IDG Capital?
01:55:21.000 No.
01:55:22.000 You're not?
01:55:23.000 No.
01:55:24.000 Okay.
01:55:25.000 Do you know a man by the name of Quan Zhu?
01:55:29.000 Definitely not.
01:55:31.000 Okay.
01:55:31.000 Well, just about a minute and 30 seconds ago, you told me when I was asking you why you were accepting contributions from people in Chinese and why you were allowing for people to send out solicitations in Chinese.
01:55:44.000 You said that you took it upon yourself to do extreme vetting on all your donors to make sure that everybody who was giving you money was doing so ethically and legally.
01:55:54.000 Are you aware?
01:55:56.000 Let's show this FEC record here.
01:56:00.000 This is an FEC record from, let's get it up on the screen.
01:56:05.000 Get it up on the big screen.
01:56:07.000 Here we go.
01:56:09.000 So, Lindy, what we're looking at here, this is a Schedule A FEC Form 3, and as you can see here, it says Kwanzu.
01:56:16.000 I just asked you if you know a guy by the name of Kwanzu.
01:56:19.000 You said no.
01:56:20.000 And you can scroll down.
01:56:21.000 Keep scrolling down.
01:56:23.000 Scroll down some more.
01:56:25.000 Okay, exit out of this form.
01:56:27.000 Just exit out of it.
01:56:28.000 Just exit out.
01:56:30.000 The form there, Lindy, shows that an individual by the name of Kwanzu gave you a max contribution for $2,700.
01:56:39.000 Again, these are all publicly available documents for people to see.
01:56:45.000 No, but just exit out of it.
01:56:47.000 Just exit out of it because we want to make sure that we focus on this content here.
01:56:51.000 I want to make sure that we're not here for three hours tonight because I'm sure Lindy has other things to do.
01:56:57.000 You said that you didn't know who Kwon Zu is, but Kwon Zu is a co-managing member of IDG Capital, and you said that you weren't familiar with what IDG Capital is.
01:57:08.000 Let's go ahead and get the next graphic for IDG Capital up on the screen, please.
01:57:13.000 Here we go.
01:57:14.000 This is Kwon Zu.
01:57:18.000 Okay.
01:57:19.000 This is the first time I'm seeing him.
01:57:21.000 Okay.
01:57:22.000 You're saying this is the first time you're seeing him.
01:57:24.000 Let's go to the other graphic.
01:57:26.000 I also raised it close to a million dollars, so I... Let's go to the other graphic with the highlighted, the yellow portion on it.
01:57:33.000 Canon?
01:57:34.000 Yep.
01:57:35.000 Let's put that up on the screen.
01:57:36.000 Okay, here.
01:57:40.000 Okay, this is the first time I'm learning about this.
01:57:43.000 Okay.
01:57:43.000 Well, you told me that you took extreme caution with your donors to make sure that you were accepting money.
01:57:48.000 Ten years ago, Laura.
01:57:49.000 I don't know how much of this has been since then.
01:57:50.000 I ran for Congress a long time ago, too, but I didn't take money from people who are tied to the CCP. I don't even know if this happened during the ten years since I ran for Congress.
01:58:01.000 Laura...
01:58:02.000 I mean, I'm being fair to you.
01:58:04.000 You didn't raise a million dollars, though.
01:58:06.000 I checked your numbers and you raised over about $600,000.
01:58:11.000 That's not a million dollars.
01:58:12.000 That's about $400,000 short.
01:58:14.000 We have the FEC records here to show you did not raise a million dollars.
01:58:18.000 I ran for Congress and I raised over a million dollars.
01:58:20.000 And you do not round up $600,000 to a million dollars.
01:58:24.000 There's an extra $400,000.
01:58:26.000 So my point is, is that you raised a little over $600,000.
01:58:29.000 You did not raise a million dollars.
01:58:30.000 And we have the records.
01:58:32.000 The reason I ask you is because I ask you whether or not you know, Kwanzu, you said no.
01:58:39.000 Generally, when somebody gave me a $2,700 max donation, I would call them.
01:58:44.000 The proper thing to do if you are a fundraiser, as you say you are, is to have proper donor relations, which means that you generally thank the donors who write a max donation check to you because you want to see whether or not those donors are capable of giving larger contributions so that you can directly Or perhaps they may want to host events for you.
01:59:05.000 At least that's what I did when I had donors that gave me max donations.
01:59:10.000 And so it says here that you accepted a $2,700 max donation from KwanZoo.
01:59:15.000 And let's put that graphic back up with the highlighted yellow text there.
01:59:20.000 You can see here it says that the NCSC emphasized the Chinese.
01:59:26.000 Let's zoom out a little bit so everybody can see the full graphic.
01:59:30.000 Okay, Says that the NCFC emphasized that Chinese venture capital has been focusing on U.S. emerging tech sectors with IDG Capital, a Chinese military designated investment firm, having invested in over 1600 businesses, including in the having invested in over 1600 businesses, including in the United States.
01:59:56.000 And so, you know...
01:59:58.000 You say that you condemn the CCP and that you're not affiliated with the CCP and that, you know, you don't speak Chinese.
02:00:05.000 How do you know that this didn't happen sometime in the 10 years that I ran for Congress?
02:00:10.000 Like, how do I even, how do we even know that?
02:00:12.000 Because, because you said moments ago when I asked you about individuals who have affiliations with China accepting money for your campaign that you did vetting and that you knew who was giving you money.
02:00:22.000 I'm just saying, but how do you know that this development with the company or whatever didn't happen sometime in the, like, I just, this is the first time I'm even learning about this.
02:00:31.000 I have no idea who the guy is.
02:00:33.000 I just have no idea who he is.
02:00:35.000 I don't know what to tell you.
02:00:36.000 Okay, well, I'm telling you who he is.
02:00:37.000 He is a co-managing member.
02:00:39.000 I have nothing to do with him.
02:00:40.000 Okay, well, I'm letting you know.
02:00:42.000 I mean, during my campaign, I escoused Taiwanese independence.
02:00:46.000 I don't know what you want from me.
02:00:47.000 I fucking hate China.
02:00:49.000 I fucking hate Xi Jinping.
02:00:50.000 What do you want me to do?
02:00:51.000 What do you want me to do?
02:00:52.000 I denounce China.
02:00:54.000 I would die for America.
02:00:56.000 Like, fuck China.
02:00:57.000 Fuck the CCP. What do you want from me?
02:00:59.000 I'm just letting you know that this individual, in case...
02:01:02.000 The reason why there's people out there that have suspicions...
02:01:05.000 And I want nothing to do.
02:01:05.000 He's not going to ever come close to me again.
02:01:07.000 I have nothing to do with these people.
02:01:09.000 What do you want me to do?
02:01:10.000 Do you want me to shout from the mountaintops that the CCP is bad?
02:01:14.000 I do.
02:01:14.000 I think Xi Jinping is a piece of shit.
02:01:16.000 He should go to hell.
02:01:18.000 Like, what do you want me to do?
02:01:20.000 Laura, I'm on your side.
02:01:21.000 Why are you fighting me so hard?
02:01:22.000 I don't know this dude.
02:01:23.000 Well, I'm just showing receipts here.
02:01:26.000 And by the way, I'm not taking anything away from you.
02:01:29.000 I'm not demanding anything.
02:01:30.000 I don't want to get close to Trump.
02:01:31.000 I don't want a job in the government.
02:01:33.000 I wouldn't work in the government for a million dollars.
02:01:36.000 People close to me, they understand that.
02:01:38.000 I don't want nothing to do with this.
02:01:39.000 I just like politics.
02:01:40.000 I like talking about it.
02:01:42.000 I don't know why.
02:01:43.000 Honestly, Laura, I don't want anything from you.
02:01:45.000 I'm not trying to take anything from you.
02:01:47.000 We can coexist.
02:01:48.000 We both want the same thing right now.
02:01:53.000 I don't know about that.
02:01:55.000 You don't think so?
02:01:56.000 Where do we diverge?
02:01:57.000 We diverge on a lot of things.
02:02:00.000 I mean, look, I would not...
02:02:01.000 Do you still think that President Trump is a serial rapist?
02:02:04.000 No, and I apologized a few hours ago for that.
02:02:06.000 I've been apologizing for the past few months, too.
02:02:09.000 I went on David...
02:02:10.000 I actually don't know his last name.
02:02:13.000 Do you know who I'm talking about?
02:02:14.000 A huge influencer named David?
02:02:17.000 I don't know.
02:02:17.000 What's his last name?
02:02:19.000 I just went on his show today.
02:02:22.000 Viva Frey?
02:02:23.000 Mm-hmm.
02:02:25.000 I just went on a show a couple hours ago, and I apologize for that tweet, and I apologize again.
02:02:29.000 I was wrong.
02:02:30.000 I bought into the mainstream narrative.
02:02:32.000 I just did.
02:02:33.000 I believed it.
02:02:34.000 And when I realized that they blew $2.5 billion, actually not a billion, $2.5 billion, that was a catalyst for me to reexamine everything else.
02:02:43.000 I just bought into it.
02:02:44.000 In my life, NBC News, ABC News, CBS, all of these outlets, they were the gold standard.
02:02:50.000 You know, I wasn't, this is just what I, it's just what I was learning, what I was taught, so.
02:02:58.000 All right, I have another question for you.
02:03:01.000 What is your relationship with Richard Bloom?
02:03:05.000 Oh, I met him at a climate change dinner in Dublin on May something, 2013. It was with Mary Robinson, who was president of Ireland at that time, and he offered me a ride home.
02:03:19.000 Actually, he asked me, like, do you need a ride home?
02:03:21.000 And I was like, do you have your own mode of transportation?
02:03:23.000 And he flew me home on his private jet.
02:03:25.000 And we became friends.
02:03:30.000 And that's it.
02:03:30.000 I became friends with his daughter.
02:03:32.000 And that's it.
02:03:33.000 He donated to my campaign.
02:03:35.000 Did you become friends with his wife?
02:03:37.000 No.
02:03:39.000 She did endorse me for Congress, though.
02:03:41.000 You know who his wife is, correct?
02:03:43.000 His wife?
02:03:44.000 Yes.
02:03:45.000 And who is his wife?
02:03:47.000 Dianne Feinstein.
02:03:48.000 And you're going to mention the Chinese spy that she once hired?
02:03:51.000 I have nothing to do with that.
02:03:52.000 Well, of course I'm going to mention that.
02:03:53.000 I'm going to mention it.
02:03:54.000 I just wanted to know if you were aware.
02:03:55.000 I'm shocked that she didn't know.
02:03:56.000 I wanted to know how long you've known, how long you knew Richard Bloom and how long you...
02:04:04.000 2013 at that dinner.
02:04:05.000 2015?
02:04:07.000 2013 at that dinner.
02:04:08.000 2013. 2013. Okay.
02:04:10.000 And so you said that Dianne Feinstein endorsed you.
02:04:13.000 We verified that.
02:04:15.000 She did.
02:04:15.000 Have you ever accepted any money from Dianne Feinstein or Richard Bloom?
02:04:20.000 Yes.
02:04:21.000 I just mentioned a few seconds ago he donated to my campaign a few times.
02:04:25.000 I just want to see, you know, how honest you're going to be because there have been some inconsistencies in your statements.
02:04:30.000 We have confirmed it.
02:04:34.000 Lori, that's why I'm asking you, because I want to see how you are going to respond.
02:04:38.000 And that is true.
02:04:39.000 You did accept a max contribution from Diane Feinstein's husband, Richard Bloom.
02:04:43.000 And I just wanted to know you, but you said that he flew you back on his private jet.
02:04:47.000 Were you aware of the time when you accepted a financial contribution from Richard Bloom that he made majority of his money, his multi-million dollar fortune that he had to pay for that private jet by engaging in business with...
02:05:02.000 Companies that are directly tied to the Chinese Communist Party.
02:05:07.000 No, because he told me that he hated the regime and he's a staunch advocate for Tibet.
02:05:12.000 That's not true because, as you know, anybody who truly is outspoken against the CCP and the regime is not able to do business in China or with CCP affiliates and vendors.
02:05:26.000 I'm very pro-Taiwan.
02:05:28.000 I'm very pro-Tibet.
02:05:32.000 I've received a lot of flack from Chinese Americans for being so vocally anti-CCP over the years, but it's something that I've continually done, and I even did it five years ago on Fox.
02:05:42.000 I was part of an anti-socialism documentary.
02:05:46.000 I've been very vocal about this throughout my adult life, Laura.
02:05:49.000 This is just me, okay?
02:05:51.000 So I don't know what you're trying...
02:05:52.000 I understand, like, you're just trying to get to the bottom of it, and I appreciate you being very open and transparent, but I... I was under the impression that he was pro-Tibet.
02:06:03.000 I know he donated a lot of money to Tibetan causes, and that's how we initially bonded.
02:06:08.000 That's how we bonded with Richard Gere.
02:06:12.000 That's how I met Richard Gere, because we're both anti-China.
02:06:15.000 And Richard Blum introduced me to Richard Gere.
02:06:19.000 And this is just the truth.
02:06:21.000 This is just the truth.
02:06:23.000 And honestly, for someone like me to condemn the CCP, which I've done again and again, it means more, given my background, given the fact that they murdered my great-grandfather.
02:06:33.000 My father has received a lot of flack for being very anti-CCP on a thing called WeChat.
02:06:40.000 But he's done it again and again.
02:06:42.000 I think I get my rebellious streak from him.
02:06:47.000 Yeah, I'm happy to, I want to, throughout my life, to do whatever I can for the United States to dominate China.
02:06:53.000 I'm almost jingoistic in my allegiance to this country.
02:06:58.000 All right.
02:06:59.000 Well, I want to ask you now about your previous comments, because there has to be some clarity and there has to be some understanding about previous statements that you have made now that you are all of a sudden coming out criticizing, criticizing Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
02:07:15.000 So here we have a tweet from you that you posted in September of 2022.
02:07:19.000 You said that New York Attorney General Tish James will make a major announcement tomorrow at 1030 a.m.
02:07:25.000 She just rejected a settlement offer from the crooks at the Trump org.
02:07:28.000 Don't mess with Tish.
02:07:29.000 Don't mess with Fannie Willis.
02:07:31.000 Don't mess with Cheney.
02:07:32.000 Our ladies are about to torch Trump's ass.
02:07:36.000 Why?
02:07:36.000 Why did you support the lawfare against President Trump and the weaponization of government carried out by Tish James and Fannie Willis, who herself was found to have acted improperly by having a sexual affair with one of the individuals who was appointed to President Trump's Rika case?
02:07:53.000 Wait, is that what you mean Fannie Willis, right?
02:07:54.000 We're talking about Fonnie Willis.
02:07:55.000 Yeah, so you're saying in this tweet...
02:07:57.000 Who are we talking about here?
02:07:58.000 Are we talking about Tish James?
02:07:59.000 We're talking about all of them.
02:08:00.000 I just read your tweet to you.
02:08:01.000 Oh, yeah.
02:08:01.000 Don't mess with Tish.
02:08:02.000 Don't mess with Fonnie.
02:08:03.000 Don't mess with Chaney.
02:08:05.000 So do you still support Tish James, Fonnie Willis, and Liz Chaney?
02:08:08.000 No, I don't.
02:08:09.000 I bought into it.
02:08:10.000 I'm sorry.
02:08:10.000 I just did.
02:08:11.000 I bought into it.
02:08:12.000 And over the past year, actually, you can even see there's...
02:08:18.000 Lori, you're all about research.
02:08:21.000 In July of 2024, I went on Fox, and I said that I was conservative.
02:08:25.000 There's an article.
02:08:26.000 Please have your staff look it up.
02:08:28.000 It's there.
02:08:29.000 I said, this has been a year-long change for me, and I only felt comfortable to be who I am after the election, and certainly after I realized that they squandered all the money that we raised.
02:08:44.000 But I just bought into the mainstream narrative.
02:08:46.000 It never occurred to me to challenge it in any way.
02:08:49.000 This is just how I was.
02:08:52.000 Right?
02:08:52.000 You read the New York Times, you read the Washington Post and all these publications, you think that they have to be right.
02:08:59.000 I have no other way of phrasing it.
02:09:00.000 It's just the dominant narrative.
02:09:05.000 It's not just you buying into the media and what they said.
02:09:08.000 You repeated this, too.
02:09:10.000 So here's another post you made in January of 2023. You said, Raging homophobe Matt Schlapp was caught groping a man.
02:09:16.000 Christian Marjorie Taylor Greene was caught cheating with a tantric sex guru.
02:09:20.000 Brother in Christ Matt Gaetz was caught sex trafficking girls.
02:09:23.000 Evangelical hero Trump is a serial rapist.
02:09:26.000 Hypocrisy is the hallmark of the GOP. I mean, obviously, you know, you can say that you fell victim to the media all you want, but there has to be some discernment.
02:09:35.000 I mean, you ran for Congress, and so, you know, what does it say about you as somebody who ran for Congress that you want to stand by what statement?
02:09:44.000 I'm not entirely clear on what's going on with Matt Gaetz.
02:09:49.000 I'm not completely sold that he's...
02:09:52.000 This, you know, saint.
02:09:53.000 I'm just not.
02:09:54.000 So I still reserve.
02:09:55.000 My judgment is still out there.
02:09:57.000 It's pending on Matt Gaetz.
02:09:58.000 The only thing you got right in that tweet, I will say, to be fair, is the part about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
02:10:05.000 She was caught cheating.
02:10:06.000 What did I say?
02:10:06.000 The part about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
02:10:08.000 She was.
02:10:08.000 She was caught cheating with a tantric sex guru, which is why her relationship with her husband failed.
02:10:14.000 With all due respect, I just do.
02:10:17.000 I don't think he's been...
02:10:18.000 Cleared.
02:10:19.000 Even other Republicans, like Kevin McCarthy, is skeptical of that case, so I still stand by what I said.
02:10:27.000 You're in the Republican Party.
02:10:28.000 You'll learn quickly that we don't really care about what Kevin McCarthy thinks.
02:10:34.000 Here's another tweet that you posted.
02:10:36.000 Well, I'm so proud about him.
02:10:38.000 I'm happy to.
02:10:40.000 The tone, Laura, the only thing I can say is I deeply regret my Vitriolic tone.
02:10:50.000 I deeply do.
02:10:52.000 I don't know what else to tell you.
02:10:53.000 I'm just here humbly coming to you and telling you that I regret it.
02:10:58.000 And I know I have a lot to prove, and I'm going to do the work.
02:11:01.000 I'm already working with RNC to raise money for the midterms.
02:11:05.000 And I'm doing what I can, but I'm not- Who at the RNC are you working with?
02:11:12.000 Casey Crosby.
02:11:13.000 She's wonderful.
02:11:15.000 She's a sweetheart.
02:11:16.000 So are you saying then, live on the show, that Michael Watley has signed off on you working with the RNC to raise money for the party?
02:11:22.000 I haven't worked with Michael Watley.
02:11:24.000 But he's the head of the RNC, and so in order for anybody...
02:11:27.000 Yeah, but in order for somebody to do work with the RNC, it has to be signed off by Michael Watley.
02:11:33.000 And by the way, I'm not a hire.
02:11:35.000 I'm volunteering my efforts.
02:11:37.000 Okay.
02:11:38.000 I've never been hired for any of this, by the way.
02:11:40.000 I've never been paid a single penny.
02:11:43.000 So you're not getting any kind of commission for doing fundraising for the RNC? Absolutely not.
02:11:47.000 I'm a donor, Laura.
02:11:49.000 Like, I donate, by definition.
02:11:52.000 I donate my money.
02:11:53.000 I donated buildings and a church to the Harris campaign.
02:11:56.000 I donated it.
02:11:57.000 I didn't get anything in return for that.
02:12:00.000 And what's the legality on that?
02:12:02.000 So how was that done?
02:12:04.000 Was it an in-kind contribution?
02:12:06.000 They told me they documented it.
02:12:08.000 I even urged them.
02:12:08.000 I have a paper trail urging them.
02:12:10.000 I was like, you need to fill out this in-kind contribution.
02:12:12.000 We're accepting a nominal rate, a market value, you know.
02:12:15.000 Yeah, because I saw that you and your family donated multiple buildings for use for the Kamala Harris campaign.
02:12:22.000 And so I was wondering that because as somebody who ran for Congress myself, I know that that doesn't need to be documented as an in-kind contribution.
02:12:30.000 So it'll be interesting to see if they...
02:12:32.000 Yeah, if they didn't though, Laura...
02:12:34.000 That's on them, not me.
02:12:36.000 I flagged that for them.
02:12:37.000 I even tweeted about it.
02:12:38.000 So, to be clear, it's the candidate's responsibility.
02:12:43.000 Here's another post.
02:12:45.000 Hugely disappointed in...
02:12:47.000 Hugely disappointed the Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg seemed to be dropping the Trump case and two top prosecutors resigned in protest.
02:12:54.000 Wealth and power should not be above the law.
02:12:57.000 Was Bragg pressured?
02:12:58.000 He has a lot to answer for just two months into office when it obscene dereliction of duty.
02:13:06.000 Do you still believe that?
02:13:09.000 Yeah, but I just want to know because, you know, we still need to know whether or not you still stand by any of these statements because there's a lot of them.
02:13:18.000 No, I don't.
02:13:18.000 I just don't.
02:13:19.000 And so you don't support Alvin Bragg anymore is what you're saying.
02:13:24.000 I've learned more about the dude and I realized that out of the four indictments, it was the flimsiest and he still decided to pursue it.
02:13:33.000 And I can't speak to...
02:13:36.000 I'm not a lawyer, and I can't pretend that I have legal expertise that I don't have.
02:13:41.000 But the documents case, the Stormy Daniels case, really seems to be lawfare.
02:13:47.000 That particular one.
02:13:48.000 You don't think that the others, like Fannie Willis' case, or the case with...
02:13:51.000 Oh my God!
02:13:53.000 Her behavior is the biggest, this century's biggest self-own.
02:13:57.000 I'm sickened.
02:13:58.000 You know, our party...
02:14:00.000 Well, my former party hailed her as some hero, and she ended up sleeping with a guy that she hired.
02:14:05.000 I mean, it could not get worse.
02:14:09.000 All right.
02:14:10.000 I mean, it's just disgusting.
02:14:11.000 I have no other words about that.
02:14:13.000 Let's see.
02:14:14.000 We have another one.
02:14:17.000 You said that you thought that the Stormy Daniels case was lawfare.
02:14:20.000 Here's a post you said.
02:14:21.000 You said Trump held a funeral.
02:14:23.000 Or Trump had to pay for sex, including with Stormy Daniels.
02:14:27.000 He had to pay an auto shop $20,000 to stand with him for a fake union rally.
02:14:32.000 He had to pay hush money to bury his crimes.
02:14:34.000 He had to renegotiate his prenup with Melania so she wouldn't leave him.
02:14:37.000 This loser is your savior.
02:14:41.000 Laura.
02:14:42.000 I'm just wondering, because I just want to know.
02:14:45.000 There's a lot of these statements, and so, you know, there's a lot of people that know that to be a part of the movement.
02:14:53.000 But you have to understand that I was a Democratic influencer.
02:14:56.000 It was kind of my job to do this.
02:14:59.000 Were you paid to tweet these things?
02:15:02.000 No, I wasn't.
02:15:02.000 How was it your job, though?
02:15:04.000 It was my identity.
02:15:06.000 It was what I knew.
02:15:07.000 It was my community, my group of friends, all of whom I lost, by the way.
02:15:10.000 I burned every single bridge.
02:15:11.000 So I don't know.
02:15:12.000 People say I'm a mole.
02:15:13.000 Who am I a mole for?
02:15:14.000 Certainly not the CCP. Certainly not the Democrats who think I'm a cunt and a whore.
02:15:18.000 Who am I? This is just me.
02:15:23.000 Have you been back to China since you came as a child?
02:15:27.000 Yes, since 2014. And in 2017 when my grandfather died.
02:15:31.000 And my grandmother is dying right now, but I'm not able to go back.
02:15:35.000 How did you get into China in 2014 and 2017 if you've always been an advocate for...
02:15:43.000 You said you're an advocate for...
02:15:45.000 Well, that's why I just graduated college.
02:15:47.000 We're around the same age.
02:15:48.000 At that time, I was pretty much a kid.
02:15:50.000 I attended an HSBC program, a leadership program through Princeton.
02:15:56.000 That was 2014, 2017. Right, but you had said that you've been critical of the CCP because you said that they killed some of your family members.
02:16:04.000 Right.
02:16:05.000 And so I'm just wondering.
02:16:06.000 At that point, I was 23 years old.
02:16:08.000 Yeah, but when you're critical of the CCP, they don't allow you back into the country.
02:16:12.000 So how did you get back in?
02:16:12.000 I just graduated from college.
02:16:14.000 At that point, I was still in the finance world.
02:16:15.000 I was working for Morgan Stanley in 2014. So I was not in politics.
02:16:19.000 I was definitely not vocal about that.
02:16:21.000 I wasn't vocal about anything until I quit Morgan Stanley.
02:16:24.000 But what I'm saying is if they killed your family, right?
02:16:26.000 And obviously China still has a CCP. They killed my great-grandfather.
02:16:29.000 They killed my great-grandfather.
02:16:30.000 Great-grandfather.
02:16:31.000 Okay, so you're saying that it's your great-grandfather because you said before that it's your grandfather.
02:16:36.000 No, I never said it was my grandfather.
02:16:38.000 Never said it was my grandfather.
02:16:41.000 I would not mess that up.
02:16:44.000 My grandfathers are dead, but not for that reason.
02:16:48.000 All right.
02:16:49.000 Well, fact check it because...
02:16:51.000 It's true.
02:16:52.000 Great-grandfather.
02:16:54.000 If someone else said grandfather, they made a mistake, but I said great-grandfather.
02:16:58.000 My parents can attest to that.
02:17:00.000 It's...
02:17:00.000 My brother, I mean, it's out there.
02:17:03.000 Fox News even reported on this five years ago.
02:17:06.000 It's my great-grandfather.
02:17:07.000 I'm just wondering, because oftentimes, you know, even if you're just critical or you say anything bad about Xi Jinping, like they had a college student that made a comment about Xi Jinping here in America, and he was jailed upon his return to China.
02:17:22.000 And so I just find it interesting that you are critical.
02:17:25.000 Even though my grandmother is currently dying, she's 96 years old, this has caused me immense pain.
02:17:30.000 I call her on FaceTime every night because I can't go back, and I'm sorry.
02:17:35.000 And she doesn't, she's...
02:17:36.000 Unfortunately, senile at this point, but I can't explain to her that I just cannot go back.
02:17:40.000 And she keeps asking, like, am I going to see you?
02:17:43.000 And I just can't.
02:17:43.000 I just can't risk being detained or what have you.
02:17:50.000 And I also don't want the blowpack of the CCP Association.
02:17:54.000 It's a very difficult situation.
02:17:56.000 I also want to remind you guys, you know, the situation wasn't as bad in 2014. Like, the relationship wasn't great, but it wasn't like this.
02:18:03.000 It's in tatters now.
02:18:05.000 So I, you know, in 2017, it wasn't even so bad.
02:18:10.000 Now it's just like a Cold War.
02:18:14.000 All right.
02:18:15.000 Let's show some of these other posts.
02:18:19.000 Laura, just as a rule.
02:18:23.000 Yes?
02:18:24.000 If it's anti-Trump, I'm sorry for it and I regret it.
02:18:32.000 Like, as a rule, we could go through each one, but I could also just tell you...
02:18:35.000 Every single statement.
02:18:37.000 We're going through all the tweets all night?
02:18:40.000 Yeah, I mean, we're going to go through them.
02:18:41.000 I think that...
02:18:43.000 How long are we going to be here, by the way?
02:18:45.000 Can you at least tell me?
02:18:46.000 Maybe like another 20 minutes or so.
02:18:48.000 I wanted to give you an opportunity to go through.
02:18:51.000 I mean, you deleted a lot of the tweets.
02:18:53.000 I mean, I saw that Mike Cernovich, for example, was retweeting a lot of your tweets yesterday.
02:18:58.000 I had to delete them because they were storing my page.
02:19:01.000 It wasn't because I was trying to hide it, but they were blowing up my page and I was getting abuse.
02:19:04.000 Well, I'm giving you an opportunity right now to go through all of them.
02:19:08.000 And I found all of them.
02:19:09.000 I spent an enormous amount of time with my research team looking for all these tweets.
02:19:13.000 So you have another one here from...
02:19:15.000 August of 2020, and you said that's breaking New York Attorney General to make a major national announcement tomorrow.
02:19:22.000 Retweet if you're hoping and praying for consequences for Trump.
02:19:26.000 Just want to get your thoughts on that as well.
02:19:28.000 This is five years ago?
02:19:29.000 Okay.
02:19:30.000 Yeah, five years ago.
02:19:35.000 I don't know what to tell you.
02:19:37.000 I'm sorry for it.
02:19:39.000 I'm sorry for it.
02:19:40.000 Here's another one.
02:19:41.000 December 2021. Trump will soon be indicted for racketeering in New York.
02:19:45.000 His Pulitzer winning prize journalist David Clay Johnston.
02:19:49.000 Today he rages that all the Dems want to do is lock people up.
02:19:53.000 No dump.
02:19:54.000 We want to lock up tax cheating, genocidal maniacs like you, your criminal family, and insurrectionists.
02:20:00.000 Do you still think that President Trump and his supporters are criminals and insurrectionists?
02:20:06.000 No.
02:20:07.000 I just want to say in the past couple weeks since I've been exposing the Democrats, the letters that I've gotten from Trump supporters have been unbelievable.
02:20:20.000 My mom has been so afraid for me.
02:20:22.000 Not because of the Republicans, actually.
02:20:24.000 We've gotten death threats from both sides, but we've gotten most of the death threats from Democrats.
02:20:29.000 And I have pointed to the letters that I've gotten from Republicans.
02:20:34.000 I'm like, Mama, it's going to be okay.
02:20:36.000 You know, we're going to be fine.
02:20:37.000 And so I've gotten so much kindness from Trump supporters, and I never would have guessed that this would happen.
02:20:50.000 This has been...
02:20:50.000 Laura, this is not...
02:20:51.000 I'm just going to be very upfront with you.
02:20:53.000 Today was one of the worst days of my life.
02:21:03.000 I haven't slept much in the past two or three days.
02:21:09.000 And some people might think that I'm exaggerating or whatever, but I spent the majority of my day, and you could see it because in the interview with David, I was sprawled on my bedroom floor in my pajamas.
02:21:23.000 I was wrong to criticize Trump.
02:21:28.000 But I am not a traitor of my country.
02:21:31.000 Honestly, I'd rather you call me a cunt than a traitor.
02:21:35.000 I love my country.
02:21:36.000 I would be nowhere without it.
02:21:38.000 I met the people I love most here.
02:21:41.000 America has given me everything I have.
02:21:43.000 My education, the opportunities.
02:21:45.000 I would die for this country.
02:21:48.000 That's just the truth.
02:21:49.000 I have nothing.
02:21:50.000 I can repeat it over and over again, but this is the truth.
02:21:57.000 And that's great.
02:21:58.000 I mean, look, I think it's nice that you'll say something like that, but the reality is that, you know, a lot of harm has been done in this country by people like you who have...
02:22:07.000 Not thought for themselves.
02:22:09.000 I mean, you say that you were captivated or somehow hypnotized by the Democrat Party and hypnotized by all these talking points.
02:22:16.000 But at what point in time does there have to be some level of accountability?
02:22:19.000 I mean, you ran for Congress and you're bragging about how you raised money.
02:22:23.000 Why should anybody take you seriously going forward as a political commentator when you've lived majority of your life not thinking for yourself?
02:22:31.000 I thought I was thinking.
02:22:33.000 I went to a very extremely liberal university right as Obama was elected in 2008. I was there my freshman year.
02:22:42.000 He got elected president for the first time.
02:22:43.000 We were captivated by the hope and change era.
02:22:46.000 I even just got an email today from one of my former classmates saying, like, I understand where you're coming from.
02:22:53.000 All the Republicans were in hiding at school because it was reprehensible to be a Republican.
02:23:00.000 My university was a liberal bastion and I ended up living in the city of Philadelphia where the voter registration is 1-7 or 1-8.
02:23:07.000 I don't know which one it is.
02:23:09.000 For me, being a Republican wasn't even an option until my hand was forced.
02:23:14.000 I counted myself as a conservative Democrat, as a moderate Democrat.
02:23:18.000 I went to war with the Bernie bros five years ago.
02:23:22.000 That was my public debut almost, going to war with the leftists, saying I would never vote for Bernie Sanders.
02:23:30.000 I have a record for going after leftists.
02:23:34.000 You know, that's why I supported Joe Biden, because he was the best option for me, but then he pulled a bait and switch.
02:23:41.000 He ran as a moderate as this, like, Joe, you know, Scranton Joe, blue-collar guy.
02:23:46.000 That's what I supported.
02:23:47.000 I did not support the woke trans insanity, and I never, never did I support.
02:23:53.000 You could go through my tweets, and Lori, I'm sure you've read all of them at this point, right?
02:23:56.000 You never saw me saying once that I support the trans nonsense, right?
02:24:01.000 No, but what I did see is that you said that for years you knew that Joe Biden was not running the show, but you continued to support him.
02:24:09.000 So if you knew that Joe Biden was mentally incapacitated and you knew that Joe Biden was not who he was claiming to be because he was seriously suffering from cognitive decline, why did you continue to enable Joe Biden?
02:24:25.000 I did what I could.
02:24:27.000 Laura, I did what I could given the constraints.
02:24:29.000 It's so hard to come out of the cult.
02:24:31.000 I've paid such a heavy price.
02:24:33.000 I've lost all of my friends.
02:24:35.000 Do you see that?
02:24:36.000 I've lost all my friends.
02:24:37.000 I have one friend left.
02:24:39.000 I have one friend left in this world.
02:24:43.000 He's not in the public sphere.
02:24:45.000 I don't...
02:24:46.000 I'm sorry, I can't.
02:24:48.000 Do you think, though, that people should question your integrity given the fact that you've taken money from CCP affiliates?
02:24:56.000 You deny that you are a CCP asset.
02:24:59.000 No, you did, though.
02:25:00.000 You took money.
02:25:01.000 You took a maximum campaign donation from Richard Bloom.
02:25:05.000 Oh, Richard Bloom?
02:25:07.000 I didn't know.
02:25:09.000 Everybody knew about Dianne Feinstein's husband.
02:25:12.000 She's been, she was one of the oldest senators.
02:25:14.000 I mean, she literally died in the United States Senate.
02:25:16.000 Okay, so you can't tell me that nobody knew about this.
02:25:20.000 There are photos of me with Richard Gere, who's extremely pro to that.
02:25:24.000 He got blackballed in Hollywood for being anti-China.
02:25:27.000 But I don't care about, I don't care about people like that.
02:25:29.000 I'm talking about the fact that you...
02:25:31.000 That's how he connected.
02:25:32.000 It has to matter here, Laura.
02:25:33.000 You took money from Dianne Feinstein's husband.
02:25:36.000 I initially bonded.
02:25:37.000 I started with Richard Blum over the Tibet issue.
02:25:40.000 And that's why he introduced me to Richard Gere.
02:25:42.000 That's why it's important.
02:25:44.000 Okay?
02:25:45.000 I'm on the record being pro-Taiwan, being pro-Tibet.
02:25:49.000 Being anti-China.
02:25:51.000 I don't know what you want.
02:25:52.000 I will repeat it again and again.
02:25:54.000 I'm anti-China.
02:25:55.000 I hate the Chinese regime.
02:25:57.000 I think they're odious.
02:25:58.000 You can understand why people would question your integrity, given the fact that there's a lot of people.
02:26:06.000 There's a lot of people I know and I like, but I would never take a contribution from them because I know as a candidate.
02:26:17.000 He even had photos of the Dalai Lama on his plane.
02:26:21.000 That was the image that he conveyed.
02:26:23.000 I guess he bamboozled everybody.
02:26:25.000 What industry did Richard Blum tell you that he was in when you flew on his private jet with him?
02:26:32.000 Private equity.
02:26:33.000 When you were flying on his private jet, you didn't question what type of private equity?
02:26:40.000 No, we watched Las Blancas the entire time.
02:26:43.000 Well, just so you know, I mean, now, I mean, I hope that I've been able to educate you throughout this interview.
02:26:49.000 The private equity that Richard Blum was involved in was financing companies tied to the Chinese military, the Chinese Communist Party and their military.
02:26:58.000 So that's basically...
02:27:00.000 This is the first time I'm learning this.
02:27:01.000 Okay.
02:27:01.000 Well, I'm letting you know that that's...
02:27:03.000 And he's dead.
02:27:04.000 He died like...
02:27:05.000 Yeah, but you still took his money, though, and you took his wife's money.
02:27:09.000 And she had a Chinese spy driving her for 20 years.
02:27:13.000 Laura, I have nothing to do with that.
02:27:15.000 I just, I have nothing.
02:27:16.000 You're trying to guilt me.
02:27:17.000 I'm respectfully, you're trying to taint me by association.
02:27:20.000 I have nothing to do with that.
02:27:21.000 I'm not tainting you by association because you already, you flew on the private jet of somebody who was in business, who was in, who was in the business of financing CCP military companies.
02:27:31.000 So I don't need to get you.
02:27:33.000 I'm telling you again, respectfully, that we bonded over our anti-China, pro-Tibetan ties.
02:27:40.000 He is a huge Dalai Lama fan.
02:27:42.000 He even wrote a book about the Dalai Lama.
02:27:46.000 And so that was the type of person I thought he was.
02:27:53.000 He published a book about this.
02:27:55.000 Well, there's another book that's been published by a friend of mine by the name of Peter Schweitzer.
02:28:01.000 It's called Red-Handed, How American Elites Get Rich Helping China Win.
02:28:04.000 So I want to send you a copy of this book so that you can further educate yourself on the CCP associations with the politicians that you spent years either fundraising for or aligning yourselves with so that going forward, you are fully aware of who in the Democrat Party and who you yourself have taken money from is affiliated with and does Laura, I'd love to work with you on anti-CCP initiatives, if you're willing.
02:28:32.000 Because I think it would mean a lot coming from someone like me, don't you think?
02:28:36.000 Especially since I was born there?
02:28:39.000 Look, I'm more of a lone wolf in the sense that I'm not a policymaker.
02:28:44.000 I'm an independent journalist.
02:28:47.000 What I'm seeing is our interests on this particular issue, they're aligned.
02:28:51.000 You want the same thing?
02:28:52.000 You want the demise of the CCP, do you not?
02:28:55.000 Well, I want the demise of the CCP, but I personally think that it would be a lack of judgment on my part to engage in a partnership with somebody who took money from a CCP affiliate.
02:29:10.000 And so I understand that now that you're apologizing for that and you're saying that he regretted it.
02:29:15.000 This is the first time I'm learning that he had CCP ties because, as I mentioned, he wrote a book praising the Dalai Lama.
02:29:24.000 He told me that he hated the Chinese regime for what they did to the Dalai Lama.
02:29:28.000 We're both pro-Taiwan I just find it very interesting that you were involved in Democrat Party media and fundraising, and it's the first time you're hearing about this.
02:29:40.000 And I'm not trying to beat you up.
02:29:42.000 I genuinely just want to educate you on this so that you never again have to go on another right-wing podcast and say, this is the first time I'm hearing this.
02:29:51.000 So I'm going to have my producer pull this up.
02:29:53.000 Cannon, please put this article up on the screen because this is not new information.
02:29:57.000 It's not something that is new.
02:30:02.000 Okay, my campaign was in 2015. Okay, but still, this has been ongoing for years.
02:30:18.000 Dianne Feinstein is one of the longest-serving Democrat senators in the United States Senate, and her husband's ties to the CCP and her own ties to the CCP, given the fact that she was the first mayor, when she was mayor of San Francisco, the first U.S. mayor to travel to China and call for a joint U.S.-China relationship.
02:30:37.000 She refused to call out China for mass human rights violations because her husband was getting rich off of doing Well, I'm happy to call out the Chinese regime for all of their mass human rights violations for everything that they're doing, for the Uyghurs and everything and their aggressions against Taiwan.
02:30:56.000 I'm happy to do it.
02:30:57.000 I just want you to see this.
02:30:59.000 I just want to show you this because you're saying this is the first time I knew about this.
02:31:02.000 That was seven years after my campaign.
02:31:04.000 That's fine, but this was mentioned because she died.
02:31:07.000 That's the reason why the story came out.
02:31:09.000 And because she was exposed for having a Chinese spy.
02:31:12.000 I'm not friends with her, by the way.
02:31:14.000 I've never been friends with her.
02:31:16.000 She gave you a max donation.
02:31:18.000 She gave you a max donation.
02:31:20.000 Hopefully their names are on the check.
02:31:21.000 I just want to be clear.
02:31:22.000 She endorsed me because her husband probably asked her to.
02:31:25.000 But my relationship was with Richard, not Diane.
02:31:28.000 All right, well, just please get the article up on the screen so that we can show everybody what we're referring to here, so that they can see all these receipts.
02:31:35.000 Scroll up to the top.
02:31:37.000 Just so that you're aware of the people that you took money from.
02:31:39.000 Okay, I have nothing to do with this.
02:31:41.000 Okay, I'm letting you know who these people are, who you took money from, and the reason why so many people are questioning your allegiances.
02:31:51.000 This guy has donated to probably every Democrat, to be honest.
02:31:54.000 So I guess the job is to condemn the entire party because Richard Blum was known as one of the most prolific Democratic donors in the country, right?
02:32:04.000 The billionaire.
02:32:05.000 That's also why the Democrat Party has a China problem.
02:32:08.000 They do.
02:32:09.000 They certainly do.
02:32:11.000 Have a China problem.
02:32:11.000 I'm not denying that.
02:32:12.000 And that's one of the reasons why I left.
02:32:18.000 All right.
02:32:20.000 Well...
02:32:21.000 You know, I've asked you a lot of questions tonight, and I think that it's been a pretty respectful conversation.
02:32:27.000 And I've shown the videos, and I've shown you statements that you have made that contradict other public statements.
02:32:34.000 And so I just want to say that I appreciate you coming on my program tonight to answer these questions.
02:32:41.000 But I also just hope that you understand that...
02:32:44.000 Just because you deny these things now doesn't mean that everybody in the Republican Party should be willing to work with you, feel comfortable working with you, and be accepting of you.
02:32:55.000 There are terrible things that are still on the internet that you've said, and it's going to take a lot more than you just going on TV and going on interviews and saying that you don't like Joe Biden and that you think that they misspent their campaign funds for people to truly believe the things that are coming out of your mouth.
02:33:14.000 I completely understand that.
02:33:15.000 I'm willing to do the work.
02:33:17.000 And I'm not trying to usurp anybody.
02:33:19.000 Honestly, it's really healing for me to talk about what happened to me with that call because this has been traumatizing.
02:33:27.000 It really helps me to just vocalize it.
02:33:29.000 But I understand that I have a lot of work to do with you and others in the Republican Party.
02:33:33.000 I'm not looking for anything, not looking for a gig or a job or anything.
02:33:36.000 I just want to make sure that the Democratic Party is never in power again.
02:33:40.000 That's really my aim.
02:33:44.000 All right.
02:33:45.000 Any last comments or any last thoughts that you have for the viewers tonight, Lindy?
02:33:52.000 I just want to apologize to you for blocking you.
02:33:56.000 I'm going to unblock you right after this.
02:33:58.000 Honestly, it was because you have so many followers.
02:34:00.000 Every time you tweet about me or quote retweet me, I would get flooded.
02:34:06.000 Well, I'll be honest with you.
02:34:07.000 I actually, the first time I ever posted about you was around the inauguration weekend when I saw that you were on the inaugural committee.
02:34:13.000 Yeah, and then my account was swarmed.
02:34:15.000 But I was blocked.
02:34:16.000 That's another thing, though.
02:34:17.000 I'm in a dispute because I was blocked before I ever tweeted at you.
02:34:21.000 And I found it to be bizarre that I was blocked even though I had never interacted with you.
02:34:25.000 Did you reply to me?
02:34:25.000 No, I had never engaged.
02:34:26.000 I had never replied to you and I had been blocked without ever interacting with you.
02:34:31.000 I wonder what happened.
02:34:33.000 I could have sworn you replied to me.
02:34:34.000 Maybe.
02:34:35.000 I don't know what happened, but every time you tweet about me, I get flooded.
02:34:39.000 I'm going to unblock you now, and I'm sorry that I did.
02:34:43.000 All right.
02:34:43.000 I want to go to the chat really quick before you sign off tonight.
02:34:46.000 I want to see if any of my viewers have any questions for you.
02:34:54.000 I want to see if you have any questions for Lindy before she signs off tonight.
02:34:59.000 Let me know.
02:35:00.000 Put it in the chat.
02:35:01.000 We'll take a couple questions.
02:35:02.000 We'll take two to three questions.
02:35:17.000 Let's see.
02:35:19.000 Laura, did you see the meme about how the Democrats took Laura Loomer and the Republicans got Lindy Lee and they did the switch?
02:35:26.000 Did you see that meme?
02:35:27.000 No, I haven't seen it.
02:35:28.000 Because you went against Elon Musk.
02:35:30.000 And they love you for that.
02:35:32.000 I haven't seen it.
02:35:33.000 Let me go back to the chat really quick.
02:35:36.000 There is a question about, okay, they want to know, Flying Storm wants to know, are you kin to the founder of Lee Labs?
02:35:44.000 No, you got to understand there are like millions of Lees.
02:35:47.000 It's a very common last name.
02:35:49.000 All right.
02:35:49.000 It's like Chen or Wong.
02:35:51.000 These are just questions from the chat.
02:35:52.000 Let's go to the chat again.
02:35:53.000 A couple more questions.
02:35:58.000 Let's see.
02:36:00.000 The answer is iPhone.
02:36:01.000 One of the questions is, do you denounce the Democrat Party wholeheartedly now?
02:36:06.000 Oh, absolutely.
02:36:07.000 You know that I've done it.
02:36:09.000 I say that every time I'm on air.
02:36:11.000 I do that every day when I'm on TV. I feel bamboozled because I thought people were crazy for saying that the Democratic Party was like the Communist Party because they scream opportunity.
02:36:28.000 Jobs for all.
02:36:30.000 But then I realized that a lot of the tactics that they employ are very similar to those of the CCP. And that is outright excommunication, discrediting, public humiliation.
02:36:41.000 A lot of these tactics are the same as those of the CCP. And I'm only realizing it now.
02:36:46.000 I feel like the blue branding, we cannot underestimate the power of subliminal advertising and how they kind of rebranded socialism.
02:36:56.000 As progressivism, which is something that should be hailed when it's actually socialism.
02:37:00.000 Do you know what I mean?
02:37:00.000 So I bought into it hook, line, and sinker.
02:37:04.000 And it's going to take me a while for me to completely unravel and unlearn everything that I did over the past decade.
02:37:12.000 I have one more question for you.
02:37:14.000 There was a tweet here that you posted in November of 2023. And you said, happy birthday, POTUS. And that was Joe Biden.
02:37:21.000 It says, you've always been, you've been.
02:37:25.000 Unerringly kind to me and my family.
02:37:27.000 I treasure that more than words can convey.
02:37:31.000 I understand that you are a fundraiser and you've raised money for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
02:37:35.000 What did you mean when you said that he's been kind to you and your family?
02:37:38.000 What relationship did Joe Biden have with your family?
02:37:41.000 I introduced him to my father, and he was the kindest.
02:37:45.000 He was extremely kind to my father.
02:37:47.000 And my dad is an immigrant like me, so meeting the President of the United States meant a lot to him.
02:37:51.000 You can criticize Joe Biden all you want, but let's have respect for the office.
02:37:56.000 And so for my dad, who grew up in the middle of nowhere, China, to meet the president of the most powerful nation on earth was a very humbling experience.
02:38:04.000 And Joe Biden on that day was absolute class, and I'm not going to deny that.
02:38:08.000 I have to give credit where credit was due.
02:38:10.000 He carried himself with, you know, so much kindness and graciousness towards my father.
02:38:15.000 And that's what I was talking about.
02:38:16.000 Well, I will say, I don't really think that Joe Biden has respect for the office.
02:38:21.000 So it's one thing to say to have respect for the office.
02:38:23.000 But, I mean, this is a guy who clearly has dementia or some form of Alzheimer's.
02:38:29.000 There was illicit drug use in the White House.
02:38:32.000 Cocaine, bags of cocaine found.
02:38:36.000 I'm right.
02:38:37.000 As I said, like putting all that side, he was very kind to my father in that one particular moment.
02:38:43.000 And I give him credit for that because I love my father deeply.
02:38:46.000 My father, I just love my father.
02:38:50.000 And I'm really thankful that the president of the United States, the most powerful nation on earth, treated my father so kindly.
02:38:58.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:38:59.000 All right.
02:39:01.000 Well, anything else you want to say before we go?
02:39:05.000 No.
02:39:06.000 Thank you for this opportunity.
02:39:09.000 Thank you.
02:39:10.000 You obviously have a massive following, and I take you extremely seriously.
02:39:15.000 I usually decline.
02:39:16.000 Believe it or not, you probably think I accept every interview, but I decline most of them.
02:39:20.000 Well, I didn't ask you for an interview.
02:39:21.000 I didn't ask you.
02:39:23.000 You DMed me and said you wanted to speak, so I didn't reach out.
02:39:27.000 I don't usually do, unless it's a very good brand or whatever, but you are one of the most...
02:39:39.000 Important voices in the political ecosystem.
02:39:41.000 And it was very important for me to have a chance to talk with you.
02:39:45.000 And so thank you.
02:39:46.000 I understand that I have a lot of work to do.
02:39:48.000 But I'm really not...
02:39:50.000 I understand that.
02:39:51.000 I'm not making excuses.
02:39:53.000 I'm not asking for pity or compassion or empathy.
02:39:56.000 I'm just going to get to work to ensure that we win the midterms in 2028. Well, I appreciate you saying that.
02:40:09.000 I actually forgot.
02:40:10.000 I had one more question, too, because this is one thing, too, that I just, you know, I found to be really interesting.
02:40:16.000 I know that you were a fundraiser.
02:40:18.000 I mean, we've just talked about so much.
02:40:19.000 And just as we were signing off, I was just thinking to myself, is there anything else I want to ask?
02:40:25.000 How did you get such close access to the White House?
02:40:28.000 Because I know that you took photos with Kamala Harris and you have photos with Joe Biden at the White House because there's a lot of people that do bundling and, you know, they do fundraising work.
02:40:37.000 How did you end up getting such close access to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?
02:40:43.000 I was on the National Alliance Committee.
02:40:45.000 It's not just a fundraiser.
02:40:46.000 We were the top fundraisers.
02:40:48.000 Okay.
02:40:49.000 Like the biggest group.
02:40:51.000 I was just wondering how, because I've been to a lot of fundraisers before.
02:40:58.000 In addition, I had held leadership positions at the DNC, so I played many roles there, not just as a fundraiser.
02:41:05.000 I helped with the Asian American outreach.
02:41:07.000 I also helped with the Mid-Atlantic stuff.
02:41:09.000 I live in Philadelphia, the Mid-Atlantic region, so I've been helping with the party for about 10 years now in various capacities.
02:41:17.000 I'm also, here in Pennsylvania, I'm also a commissioner, so I've had many opportunities.
02:41:22.000 Oh, and funnily enough, I didn't meet Biden through politics.
02:41:27.000 I met him because I served as a trustee on the American Association for Cancer Research.
02:41:33.000 Cancer is a very important thing to me.
02:41:34.000 So I met him in 2017 when he gave a speech there.
02:41:38.000 And that was my first encounter with Joe Biden.
02:41:40.000 It wasn't through politics at all.
02:41:42.000 It was because his son died and he was very...
02:41:46.000 Keen on supporting our organization.
02:41:48.000 Yeah, I was just wondering.
02:41:50.000 I was just, you know, interested.
02:41:53.000 And then you yourself said that you are a donor on top of being a fundraiser yourself.
02:41:59.000 If you don't mind me asking.
02:42:00.000 My family.
02:42:00.000 My family is.
02:42:01.000 My family.
02:42:02.000 We've donated to super PACs.
02:42:04.000 We've donated to various campaigns.
02:42:08.000 And how did your family make...
02:42:10.000 I mean, if you don't mind me asking, how did your family acquire their wealth?
02:42:14.000 I mean, I know your father's in real estate, and I believe your father's also a physician, right?
02:42:18.000 Is that...
02:42:18.000 He is.
02:42:19.000 Yeah, he's MD, PhD.
02:42:20.000 We're very proud of him.
02:42:22.000 Because he came...
02:42:23.000 I hate to say this, but he came from the middle of fuckware China, and they murdered his grandfather.
02:42:27.000 So he really had all the odds stacked against him.
02:42:30.000 And he is the hardest working person you will ever meet.
02:42:33.000 And this is the type of immigrants...
02:42:35.000 I... Laura...
02:42:37.000 I really started paying attention to you when you went against Elon and immigration.
02:42:45.000 Because I agree with you.
02:42:47.000 We need immigrants.
02:42:49.000 First of all, we need to put Americans first.
02:42:51.000 But if we're going to have immigrants, we should have immigrants like my father, who will work their tail off to create American jobs, to make our country stronger.
02:43:00.000 My dad is the hardest working person you will ever meet.
02:43:04.000 And he hustled his way.
02:43:06.000 He came here, went to Yale Medical School, Harvard Medical School.
02:43:09.000 That's why we moved around so much.
02:43:11.000 And he switched professions because he wasn't making enough money.
02:43:14.000 And he had a family to support.
02:43:16.000 And he went into real estate.
02:43:17.000 That's why you moved to Pennsylvania.
02:43:18.000 How did he afford Yale?
02:43:22.000 You said Yale and Harvard or Yale and Princeton?
02:43:24.000 Yale, Harvard Medical School.
02:43:27.000 He didn't pay for it.
02:43:28.000 It was scholarship.
02:43:29.000 Oh, interesting.
02:43:32.000 My dad is so smart.
02:43:33.000 He's just great.
02:43:34.000 Yeah.
02:43:34.000 And such a patriot, too.
02:43:36.000 He gets a lot of flack from my mom for being so anti-CCP because our family is attacked for it.
02:43:42.000 But he believes, just like me, we'll say whatever is true.
02:43:45.000 So my dad is fantastic.
02:43:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised they haven't killed your grandmother because, you know, given the fact that you said they killed your great-grandfather.
02:43:57.000 She's 96, so she's 96. That's what the regime, as you know, the CCP does to family members of dissidents who speak out overseas.
02:44:06.000 So I guess you're lucky that they haven't killed her.
02:44:12.000 My grandparents are my father's.
02:44:14.000 They're dead.
02:44:15.000 It's my grandmother on my mother's side, who's 96. My father's side, they're dead.
02:44:21.000 But she's still Chinese, right?
02:44:23.000 Your mother?
02:44:24.000 My mother?
02:44:25.000 Yeah, you said it's your grandmother on your mother's side?
02:44:29.000 My grandmother on my mother's side is Chinese.
02:44:31.000 My mother is American.
02:44:32.000 My entire family is American.
02:44:34.000 But you said your grandmother is in China.
02:44:37.000 Is in China, yeah.
02:44:38.000 My mother is American.
02:44:39.000 She's here.
02:44:39.000 So what I'm saying is that because you're so vocal and because you said your family is so outspoken...
02:44:44.000 She's also 96. I'm surprised that they haven't...
02:44:47.000 Well, they murder people all the time.
02:44:49.000 I mean, look what they did during COVID, right?
02:44:51.000 I mean, they murder, they eat dogs.
02:44:53.000 I mean, I don't know if you know this.
02:44:54.000 I've rescued my dog from a Chinese meat market.
02:44:56.000 So it's like the most brutal regime.
02:44:57.000 Oh, wow.
02:44:58.000 Well, I'm vegan.
02:44:59.000 No, I'm not accusing you of being a dog eater.
02:45:02.000 I'm just saying that, you know, a culture that has no problem killing domesticated animals certainly would have no problem killing a 96-year-old.
02:45:09.000 And that's why I've been so vocal against them, and I will continue to be.
02:45:14.000 I will make sure that we do whatever we can to ensure that the...
02:45:18.000 That this century is another century of American hegemony.
02:45:21.000 I'm all about that.
02:45:23.000 Interesting.
02:45:24.000 Well, thank you for coming on my program.
02:45:27.000 I appreciate you coming on.
02:45:28.000 And I noticed that when you were on Viva's show, you seemed to have been in bed in your pajamas, and you looked like...
02:45:35.000 Yeah, I told you I was really suffering then, yeah.
02:45:37.000 You looked like you were crying, but I think you're really pretty when you're not crying.
02:45:42.000 When I'm not crying?
02:45:44.000 When I'm...
02:45:44.000 Oh my God, you're so kind.
02:45:46.000 I actually...
02:45:47.000 I'm wearing so much foundation right now because I haven't slept in three days.
02:45:51.000 It's just been awful.
02:45:52.000 Laura, I don't want to be on your bad side.
02:45:55.000 Like, I just don't.
02:45:57.000 I don't...
02:45:58.000 Having the wrath of Laura Loomer heaped on your shoulders, man, I wouldn't wish it upon my enemy.
02:46:04.000 It's that bad.
02:46:05.000 It's just really bad, man.
02:46:07.000 Well, you know, as President Trump has said, you don't want to get Loomer-ed.
02:46:11.000 It's career-ending stuff.
02:46:13.000 You do not want to get Loomer-ed.
02:46:14.000 And I'm happy to take criticism.
02:46:16.000 On everything that I've said, I take full responsibility for it.
02:46:20.000 It was my fault.
02:46:21.000 I was wrong.
02:46:22.000 But I love my country.
02:46:23.000 I love my country.
02:46:25.000 I love the United States of America so, so much.
02:46:28.000 More than I could ever convey.
02:46:32.000 Well, like I said, I'm not here to make the case for you.
02:46:35.000 I just wanted to give you an opportunity because I felt like it was the fair thing to do when you reached out and you asked if we could speak and I posted about you.
02:46:42.000 And so I appreciate you coming on and we'll let the viewers decide for themselves.
02:46:47.000 We have over 111,000 people watching live right now on Twitter.
02:46:51.000 And how many live viewers do we have on Rumble right now, Cannon?
02:46:55.000 About 2,000, so about 100 and...
02:46:58.000 13,000 live viewers right now.
02:47:00.000 So we'll let the viewers decide for themselves.
02:47:04.000 I think that I was fair in showing all the receipts and showing all the documentation and giving you a chance to reply to the inconsistencies.
02:47:12.000 And if we have more questions, I'll be sure to invite you on the show again.
02:47:17.000 Okay, I'll give you my number so you can reach me directly.
02:47:20.000 Great.
02:47:21.000 Thanks for coming on, Lindy.
02:47:22.000 Thank you, Laura, and happy Valentine's Day.
02:47:24.000 Thank you.
02:47:24.000 You too.
02:47:28.000 All righty, everybody.
02:47:29.000 Well, that was Lindy Lee.
02:47:33.000 I know it was a very long interview, but like I said, I'm not here to convince you on anything.
02:47:40.000 I have my own questions.
02:47:41.000 I have my own concerns.
02:47:43.000 And as you saw in the beginning, there were some inconsistencies there with statements made about when she came to this country, whether she spoke Chinese, the address.
02:47:53.000 We showed the receipts.
02:47:54.000 They did my research.
02:47:55.000 So again, I'm happy to let people come on and give their side of the story.
02:48:00.000 But I am also a firm believer in that receipts speak for themselves.
02:48:04.000 And I also don't think that just because somebody says that they are now a Trump supporter, that they should automatically be welcomed in.
02:48:11.000 I do think it's really interesting that she mentioned that the RNC is working with her, even if she claims she's not getting paid, that she's working with the RNC in some capacity to do fundraising.
02:48:22.000 I find that to be quite interesting, and I'll be following up about that.
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02:50:09.000 Before we get into some of these other stories tonight, I want to talk about a story that I broke.
02:50:17.000 Earlier this morning, late last night, there's all types of infiltrators that are trying to get into the Trump administration now, right?
02:50:25.000 We heard from Lindy Lee tonight who swears that she's not trying to get in, but clearly, you know, she wants to be accepted by the GOP and by the Republicans.
02:50:35.000 And then you have people that used to work for President Trump who betrayed President Trump who are also now trying to get back into the Trump administration.
02:50:43.000 I want to show an article on my website.
02:50:46.000 Well, here's the thread.
02:50:47.000 We'll go through the thread, but then I want to pull the article up.
02:50:50.000 Former SEC official William Hinman attempting to infiltrate the Trump crypto board despite donating to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.
02:51:00.000 I was tipped off by a source of mine within the crypto community who alerted me to the fact that individuals within the crypto advisory board, and that of course includes David Sachs, who's now the crypto czar, has been entertaining the idea of perhaps allowing for the former SVC official William Hinman to come back into the Trump administration and work on crypto.
02:51:26.000 Hinman worked at the SEC under Trump.
02:51:29.000 We can get the article pulled up and go through it.
02:51:31.000 But it's important to note that he donated to members of the J6 committee and he also donated to Joe Biden while he was employed at the SEC during the Trump administration.
02:51:43.000 So we'll just go through this article from the top so that you can see it for yourself.
02:51:47.000 Let's scroll down.
02:51:50.000 Unscrolling.
02:51:55.000 And if you haven't already seen the article, you can go to Lumard.com.
02:52:01.000 And as I mentioned in the introduction of this article, President Trump received an enormous amount of support from the crypto community, which faced enormous backlash and attacks by the Biden regime over these last four years.
02:52:16.000 And they had what was called a crypto winter.
02:52:19.000 And we saw that Gary Gensler and we saw that Joe Biden and many of the Senate Democrats on the banking committee, including Elizabeth Warren, were very hostile towards the crypto community.
02:52:30.000 And so when President Trump started campaigning on the issue of crypto and opened up the idea to his base and also a new class of voters who then showed up and voted for President Trump by saying that he was going to declare the United States of America as the crypto capital of the world.
02:52:48.000 It caused the crypto community to raise millions of dollars for Donald Trump.
02:52:53.000 And we saw historically either libertarian or Democrat individuals, some of them completely nonpolitical, apolitical, come out and support President Trump with enormous donations.
02:53:05.000 President Trump himself accepted cryptocurrency.
02:53:07.000 And since the election, President Trump has done several.
02:53:10.000 And then, of course, we saw on January 17th, just several days before the inauguration, we had the crypto ball.
02:53:39.000 We had the crypto ball in Washington, D.C. that was hosted by the newly appointed crypto and AI czar David Sachs.
02:53:48.000 You can scroll down, and you can go through all this and verify this information yourself.
02:53:53.000 Now, what is the whole point about this guy, William Hinman?
02:53:57.000 Scroll up in the article, up, up, right there, that people should be concerned about.
02:54:01.000 Well, in June of 2018, Hinman gave a speech at the Yahoo Finance All Market Summit in which he declared that Bitcoin and Ethereum, given their decentralized nature, were not securities.
02:54:13.000 Many crypto innovators blame Hinman and his comments on being the catalyst for what they call the crypto winter, in which we saw crypto prices drop significantly.
02:54:24.000 You'll notice now that ever since President Trump's inauguration, crypto, especially Bitcoin, has soared over $100,000 per Bitcoin.
02:54:34.000 But this crypto winter, as a result of Bill Hinman's speech and all of the regulations from Gary Gensler and the Biden regime, caused a lot of crypto innovators to move their crypto innovations and their crypto projects overseas.
02:54:47.000 Right.
02:54:48.000 And that's why we saw a lot of activity elsewhere during the Biden regime.
02:54:52.000 We saw crypto innovators trying to go to Latin and Central America.
02:54:57.000 Look at what they did in El Salvador, making cryptocurrency a big part of the El Salvador economy, making Bitcoin legal tender.
02:55:06.000 And now you see a third world country is now transforming itself and went from having the number one highest homicide rate in the country, in the world, excuse me, to being one of the safest countries in the world.
02:55:16.000 And that has really been parallel with this crypto revolution and the introduction of cryptocurrency.
02:55:23.000 Into the country of El Salvador.
02:55:25.000 And we're seeing similar things around the world and other places where impoverished communities are now bringing in cryptocurrency and allowing for crypto innovators to support development in regions around the world that are underdeveloped with cryptocurrency and decentralized technology.
02:55:42.000 You can scroll down.
02:55:43.000 The ripple effect on crypto winter.
02:55:47.000 As I said before, Hinman's comments resulted in kind of this regulatory backlash.
02:55:53.000 And so many people in the crypto industry felt like they were being punitively and also retroactively attacked for actions.
02:56:02.000 And they felt that Hinman was failing to disclose his own personal conflicts of interest.
02:56:10.000 Many believe he should face jail time over.
02:56:13.000 Many people in the crypto industry have accused him of committing fraud, and they are still calling on this Inspector General report to be released.
02:56:22.000 It has not been released in full to the public yet, and many people feel as though Hinman is a criminal, but unfortunately he is now working with...
02:56:32.000 People like Mark Andreessen over at Andreessen Horowitz.
02:56:36.000 And it's kind of become a very uncomfortable situation because individuals who are tied to the Biden regime and individuals who screwed over so many people in the crypto industry are now trying to wiggle their way back into the Trump administration with all these big tech billionaire allies that they have.
02:56:54.000 And the question that everybody's asking is, you know, we're told that the Trump 2.0 era is going to be a time period of accountability.
02:57:05.000 But unfortunately, a lot of the big tech billionaires who are now serving in the Trump administration have ties to individuals like Bill Hinman.
02:57:14.000 And the question is, is there going to be extreme accountability and extreme transparency?
02:57:18.000 Or is it just going to be a billionaire's boys club where all these people get to skirt accountability and they get to not be held accountable for either alleged fraud or real?
02:57:28.000 Real fraud.
02:57:30.000 Simply because they do business with people who wrote big checks to President Trump.
02:57:34.000 That's the question that we all have.
02:57:36.000 You can scroll down.
02:57:37.000 Political opportunism and subversion.
02:57:41.000 You know, here I kind of elaborated on Bill Hinman's position working at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
02:57:49.000 He worked there from May 2017 until the end of 2020 during the first Trump administration.
02:57:55.000 But he showed an extreme lack of loyalty.
02:57:57.000 You can scroll down.
02:57:59.000 FEC records actually reveal and show that while he was working there from May of 2017 until December of 2020, the end of the Trump administration, He gave political contributions to Joe Biden in Act Blue.
02:58:13.000 So here we have, you can see, it's a little blurry on your end, but you can see if you zoom in by going to lumert.com or reading the thread on my Twitter account.
02:58:24.000 October 2020, September 2020, February 2020, January 2020, again December 2019, 2018. That's during the time frame that Bill Hinman was at the SEC under the Trump administration.
02:58:40.000 And so the question is, is why was a Trump admin official donating to ActBlue, which, as you know, is the Democrat Party platform for fundraising?
02:58:54.000 Why was he doing this, right?
02:58:56.000 And now he's trying to use his connections to David Sachs, the crypto NAI czar, and Mark Andreessen, who was a Hillary Clinton supporter and never supported Trump because all these big tech billionaires, like, suck the dicks of every single immigrant that wants to come into this country.
02:59:11.000 I mean, really, honestly, his reasoning for not supporting President Trump was, oh, well, I just find it to be absolutely repulsive.
02:59:19.000 Anybody that wants to have a chokehold on immigration.
02:59:22.000 Because we're supposed to just let all of our jobs be taken by immigrants, apparently, according to people like Marc Andreessen and these other big tech billionaires prior to their reawakening that they only had when an assassin almost put a bullet in President Trump's head live on television.
02:59:38.000 You know, we're told that these people are the best and brightest in the world.
02:59:41.000 And I'm told, hey, hey, Laura, stop mouthing off to all these big tech billionaires.
02:59:45.000 You're so mouthy.
02:59:46.000 You're so mouthy.
02:59:47.000 You know, why are you so mouthy?
02:59:49.000 Why do you always have to mouth off to all these rich men?
02:59:52.000 Because I don't give a shit about how rich they are.
02:59:54.000 I don't give a shit who they are.
02:59:56.000 All I need to know is the receipts.
02:59:59.000 And the receipts and their political contributions and their previous statements up until the point where somebody almost shot Donald Trump in the head and we almost watched his brains explode in 4K. Okay?
03:00:10.000 All these people were condemning Donald Trump on a daily basis.
03:00:13.000 So I don't really need to, you know...
03:00:16.000 Monitor the way I talk about people who are only given a seat at the table in the Trump administration, not because they have merit or hard work, but because they are rich enough to write a multi-million dollar check.
03:00:28.000 So I don't really give a fuck who you are or how rich you are.
03:00:32.000 Because at the end of the day...
03:00:34.000 Just because you're rich doesn't mean that you can welcome all of your compromised buddies and all of your Democrat plant friends and all of the traitors who were actively undermining Donald Trump while they were working for Donald Trump and his administration to come then work at your company in the private sector after screwing over the American people working in an official government capacity at the SEC. And now you want these people to then be able to have another opportunity to screw Donald Trump?
03:01:01.000 I don't think so.
03:01:03.000 So we got to call these people out.
03:01:05.000 It's just one of those things.
03:01:08.000 And you don't know how many times I've been told by people, you know, if you just kept your mouth shut, you would be so much wealthier.
03:01:14.000 You would go on Fox News.
03:01:16.000 You would have access to mainstream media.
03:01:19.000 You would get these rich guys to write you a check, and they'd fund your media operation the same way that Marc Andreessen and David Sachs are funding Bari Weiss and her entity over at the Free Press.
03:01:30.000 I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Bari Weiss attacks President Trump and thinks he's a Nazi and is actively opposing.
03:01:37.000 All of his nominees, right?
03:01:39.000 Sure has nothing to do with that, right?
03:01:42.000 I don't want to be quiet.
03:01:43.000 I don't want to have to self-censor myself to get a check from these people or to get the validation from these people who don't even truly believe in the cause of MAGA and America First.
03:01:54.000 Mark Andreessen has publicly said that we need to retire democracy because it's a failed system.
03:02:01.000 Mark Andreessen has said that he supports technocracy, and he entertained the idea of having a technocratic fascist dictator ruling America.
03:02:12.000 So why would I want somebody who is working at Marc Andreessen's firm right now within his crypto fund to then be back invited into the Trump administration?
03:02:23.000 So I sent this report over today to the Trump administration because I'm doing my part.
03:02:29.000 I don't know about the people who are working for President Trump who are supposedly getting paid to do vetting.
03:02:34.000 I don't really see much vetting going on.
03:02:36.000 I don't.
03:02:39.000 People can be upset all they want, but if people were actually doing vetting, well, then, well, why are you not finding this stuff?
03:02:46.000 Why do I have to spend, I've been awake for over 48 hours, okay?
03:02:49.000 I'm exhausted.
03:02:51.000 I'm tired.
03:02:52.000 I've been awake for over 48 hours, and I'm happy to do my show.
03:02:56.000 I'm happy to put out these reports.
03:02:58.000 But I've been up for over two days.
03:02:59.000 I haven't slept in two days.
03:03:01.000 I have to keep a jar of Pepto in my drawer with me and a container full of ginger ale because I'm so nauseated right now from the lack of sleep and the lack of energy that I have right now from staying up so late, doing the work that other people in the Republican Party are supposed to be doing, trying to do vetting on potential CCP infiltration, trying to do vetting.
03:03:29.000 I'm not getting paid to do this.
03:03:34.000 And I'm doing it because I care about my country and because I care about Donald Trump.
03:03:38.000 So if I have to take anti-nausea medicine and have to run on You know, multi-day benders where I don't get any sleep because I'm doing the job that people in our own Trump administration are supposed to be doing.
03:03:54.000 I think it's time for people to step up the vetting process and to start doing more to protect Donald Trump because we have a serious problem.
03:04:01.000 If a guy who donated to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton and Jamie Raskin while he was working for the Trump administration is now going to events hosted by Trump Trump administration officials.
03:04:16.000 I'm talking about the crypto ball hosted by David Sachs, okay?
03:04:21.000 Why are we not holding David Sachs accountable as the crypto and AIs are?
03:04:26.000 Why are we not holding Marc Andreessen accountable?
03:04:29.000 Why are we allowing Marc Andreessen to go on podcasts with Bari Weiss without disclosing the fact that he is giving money to Bari Weiss?
03:04:37.000 So I don't know if she disclosed the fact in that interview that Marc Andreessen is one of her investors when he went on her program to talk about how, oh, I'm spending more than half my time at Mar-a-Lago since the election.
03:04:50.000 We have that clip.
03:04:52.000 Let's go ahead and play that clip of Marc Andreessen talking about how he's spending over half of his time since the election at Mar-a-Lago, which is really deeply disturbing.
03:05:04.000 Go ahead and play the clip.
03:05:06.000 Have you been down to Mar-a-Lago since the election?
03:05:09.000 So on the second question, yes.
03:05:11.000 How many times?
03:05:14.000 A fair amount.
03:05:15.000 Maybe half my time down there since the election.
03:05:17.000 Wow.
03:05:18.000 In and around there.
03:05:19.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not like in the room.
03:05:21.000 I'm like not, you know, again, I'm not claiming to be like in the middle of all the decision making, but I've been trying to, you know, help in as many ways as I can.
03:05:30.000 So, look, I'll start by saying, look, as we discussed, Trump brings out a lot of feelings in a lot of people.
03:05:37.000 People have very strong views.
03:05:38.000 And then there are many political topics that I'm very deliberately not weighing in on.
03:05:43.000 And so I'm not Mr. Foreign Policy or Mr. Abortion Policy or guns.
03:05:47.000 When I talk about these things, it's around, as I said, tech policy, business, economics, and then the health of the country, the success of the country.
03:05:57.000 Have you been down to Mar-a-Lago since the election?
03:06:00.000 So on the second question, yes.
03:06:02.000 How many times?
03:06:05.000 A fair amount.
03:06:06.000 Maybe half my time down there since the election.
03:06:08.000 Wow.
03:06:09.000 In and around there.
03:06:10.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not like in the room.
03:06:12.000 I'm like not, you know, again, I'm not claiming to be like in the middle of all the decision making, but I've been trying to, you know, help in as many ways as I can.
03:06:20.000 So, look, I start by saying, look, as we discussed, Trump brings out a lot of feelings in a lot of people.
03:06:28.000 People have very strong views.
03:06:29.000 And then there are many political topics that I'm very deliberately not weighing in on.
03:06:33.000 And so I'm not Mr. Foreign Policy or Mr. Abortion Policy or guns.
03:06:38.000 When I talk about these things, it's around, as I said, tech policy, business, economics, and then the health of the country, the success of the country.
03:06:48.000 Yeah, he's not Mr. Policy on all these other issues, but of course, you know, he's trying to implement and influence policy.
03:06:55.000 Otherwise, he wouldn't be spending most of his time, as he told Barry Weiss, who he's funding, that he's been spending most of his time at Mar-a-Lago since the election.
03:07:05.000 So these guys try to act like they're so sincere and that they're so altruistic in the way, oh, they're giving money.
03:07:11.000 I'm a billionaire and I'm giving this amount of money to President Trump.
03:07:14.000 It's like toilet paper money for me, but I'm so generous.
03:07:16.000 I'm so altruistic.
03:07:18.000 They're benefiting themselves.
03:07:20.000 You don't think that Mark Andreessen is not benefiting by trying to use his position.
03:07:26.000 Let's scroll down so that people understand what I'm talking about.
03:07:28.000 Let's go down to the bottom of the article.
03:07:35.000 Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
03:07:37.000 Okay, scroll up a little bit.
03:07:38.000 Up, up, up, up a little bit.
03:07:40.000 Okay, so after leaving the SEC, scroll down just a little bit.
03:07:45.000 Oh, by the way, you can, I'm sorry, scroll up a little bit, just a little bit right there.
03:07:49.000 Just so that you see the receipts and you see I'm not making this up.
03:07:53.000 He was donating to Joe Biden, this Bill Hinman guy.
03:07:57.000 He was donating to Joe Biden.
03:07:59.000 While he was still working for President Trump's SEC in Trump's first term.
03:08:04.000 And then after January 6th, he donated to Jamie Raskin.
03:08:09.000 You can see here, this is an FEC record that shows that he donated to, and that's after he was at the SEC. He then went to Simpson Thatcher, a law firm.
03:08:21.000 And he donated $1,500 in March of 2021. And March of 2021 is when the J6 committee was ramping up their efforts to encourage FBI raids against Trump supporters and also the deplatforming and the persecution of Donald Trump.
03:08:37.000 So this guy now is aligning with David Sachs, and he works for Marc Andreessen, who has been spending most of his time at Mar-a-Lago.
03:08:46.000 So if Marc Andreessen truly cares about President Trump and he truly cares about America First, why does he have this guy, Bill Hinman, working for him when Bill Hinman was literally undermining Donald Trump while he was working for Trump by donating to his political opposition and then funding members of the J6 Committee?
03:09:03.000 And of course, Marc Andreessen has me blocked, okay?
03:09:07.000 He's a total, total loser.
03:09:11.000 The guy has me blocked, like all these other big tech billionaire losers.
03:09:15.000 I don't care how much money you have.
03:09:17.000 He's a loser.
03:09:18.000 He's never, ever once replied to any of my tweets in which I've posted these receipts.
03:09:23.000 The guy is a loser.
03:09:24.000 And if I was involved in Trump's vetting team, and I clearly don't work for President Trump, although I'm in regular contact with his team and with his staff at the White House.
03:09:36.000 I would not be allowing these people anywhere near President Trump, or I would at least be making demands that individuals be fired if they were going to be occupying time at my residence.
03:09:45.000 Like, you're going and spending time at the president's home, and yet you're employing somebody that donated to the J6 committee who supported and led the impeachments against President Trump.
03:09:59.000 You're never going to get me to praise these big tech billionaires.
03:10:02.000 You're just never going to do it.
03:10:03.000 Scroll down just a little bit.
03:10:04.000 Additionally, after leaving the SEC, Hinman joined Andreessen Horowitz's A16Z, a prominent venture capital firm deeply invested in crypto, where Hinman was appointed as an advisory partner.
03:10:15.000 Mark Andreessen, co-founder of A16Z, has been a vocal advocate for crypto, and Hinman's move to A16Z was viewed by some as a continuation of his influence in shaping crypto policy, but from the private sector as opposed to his private role.
03:10:29.000 So you can see on the website there, A16Z Crypto.
03:10:32.000 Scroll down.
03:10:32.000 It says their team, Bill Hinman.
03:10:34.000 Scroll down.
03:10:40.000 Thank you.
03:10:45.000 The transition was particularly noted when A16Z announced a massive $2.2 billion crypto fund with Hinman's role viewed as leveraging his regulatory experience for the firm's benefit.
03:10:56.000 Hinman's involvement in such a significant investment in crypto right after a tenure at the SEC marked by regulatory ambiguity has raised eyebrows about the revolving door between regulatory agencies and private sector gains.
03:11:09.000 It's worth noting, as I said, and you can read this, it's on my X account and it's also on Lumard.com, scroll down, that much like Hinman was a never-Trumper, as I said before, he supported Clinton.
03:11:22.000 Andreessen also supported Clinton.
03:11:24.000 And when asked if he was supporting Clinton over Trump in 2016, he said, is that a serious question?
03:11:30.000 And then proceeded to berate Trump over his strict immigration policies, adding that, as I said before, any proposal to choke off immigration makes no sense.
03:11:39.000 I think you all get the point.
03:11:52.000 So the fact of the matter is, is this report has not even been released to the public yet.
03:11:56.000 Scroll down.
03:11:57.000 Keep on scrolling.
03:12:00.000 The OIG report was not released, and many people believe that Gary Gensler actually failed to release the report as a way to protect Hinman.
03:12:09.000 And so if Gary Gensler is protecting Hinman, why would anybody want Hinman in the Trump administration on the Crypto Advisory Board?
03:12:16.000 If this guy was responsible for a cryptocurrency winter, as many people accused him of, and some people say that he's corrupt, some people in the crypto industry believe that this guy belongs in prison.
03:12:27.000 Some people call him a fraudster.
03:12:30.000 I'm just saying that if this is all true, why would we want this guy anywhere near President Trump's administration or his crypto board?
03:12:40.000 So people need to be tweeting about this.
03:12:42.000 Again, I sent this to President Trump's team directly today, and his staff acknowledged and confirmed receipt of my report and informed me that it's going to be passed along to the president and his personnel management team.
03:12:57.000 So my job is done.
03:12:59.000 You know, because as somebody who actually is a true loyal Trump supporter, not one of these people that showed up and pretended to be pro-Trump after not doing anything to support the president, somebody who actually has real blood, sweat, and tears in the game, as I have as an original Trump supporter, I'm doing the work that people who are getting paid by the Trump administration should be doing but aren't doing.
03:13:22.000 And now President Trump is going to know, not because of them, but because of me.
03:13:26.000 So you're welcome.
03:13:27.000 And I'm hoping that this can protect not just President Trump, but also the crypto community from people who want to use access to the president from their own or for their own personal gain at the expense of the American people.
03:13:42.000 So, share the report.
03:13:44.000 I hope you find it interesting.
03:13:47.000 There definitely needs to be better vetting done.
03:13:51.000 Joey2of14 said, "This is crazy.
03:13:59.000 How are these people even allowed near Trump?
03:14:03.000 Tina Eagle said, we wouldn't know.
03:14:06.000 Great job, Laura.
03:14:10.000 L.A. Azteca said, Laura is such a hard worker, deserves some R&R. Yeah, I know.
03:14:16.000 I have like a splitting headache right now.
03:14:19.000 Because I've literally been up for over 48 hours doing all this research and trying to get all of this information out there because it's just crazy to me.
03:14:27.000 And this isn't even on top of the other stories that we talked about on Loomer Unleashed this week, including the story about how we here exclusively at Loomer Unleashed found, discovered the fact that Judge McConnell's daughter is a current Biden appointee who works at the Department of Education.
03:14:42.000 So we're doing so much research that people who work for President Trump should be doing that aren't doing.
03:14:48.000 Oh, we have 147,000 live viewers right now.
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03:16:06.000 Let's go back to the chat.
03:16:07.000 Let's see.
03:16:19.000 Great job, Laura.
03:16:20.000 Her backtracking was telling.
03:16:22.000 Like I said, I don't need to comment on what I thought about the Lindy Lee interview.
03:16:26.000 It speaks for itself.
03:16:27.000 My point was to ask questions and to ask very pointed questions and to bring receipts.
03:16:33.000 The backtracking spoke for itself.
03:16:36.000 The crying spoke for itself.
03:16:39.000 I'm not going to tell you guys what to think.
03:16:41.000 It's up to you.
03:16:42.000 A lot of people have questions.
03:16:43.000 A lot of people have concerns.
03:16:46.000 I gave a very fair interview tonight.
03:16:49.000 To a Democrat Party operative and she had over an hour to explain herself.
03:16:55.000 She was not censored.
03:16:56.000 She was not yelled at.
03:16:57.000 I spoke very respectfully to her and I'm not going to tell you what you should think about it.
03:17:01.000 You can think for yourself.
03:17:03.000 You can think for yourself and you can determine your own opinion about Lindy Lee.
03:17:07.000 I've already made my thoughts clear about what I think.
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03:18:58.000 We'll take a couple more questions from the chat.
03:19:01.000 We've been live for almost three hours now, so it's definitely been a long show, but a lot of people were anticipating this interview with Lindy Lee tonight.
03:19:10.000 And this bombshell report on William Hinman trying to infiltrate the Trump administration.
03:19:16.000 Let's see.
03:19:23.000 Keeps on going and going and going.
03:19:25.000 Yes.
03:19:26.000 Oh, and happy Valentine's Day to all of you.
03:19:28.000 That's right.
03:19:29.000 It's Valentine's Day.
03:19:30.000 I tend to forget these things.
03:19:31.000 I hope all of you have a wonderful Valentine's Day this weekend.
03:19:37.000 Riley CJ said, Lee squirming as you lumered her was fantastic.
03:19:41.000 Had her number.
03:19:46.000 Terrific work Laura.
03:19:49.000 Shout out to Loomer Fan Club.
03:19:59.000 I definitely want to know what you guys thought about the Lindy Lee interview tonight.
03:20:02.000 So if you missed this interview or you were late to join because I noticed that we had a boost in viewership towards the end of the show, you can watch the replay of the show on Rumble.
03:20:10.000 Rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
03:20:12.000 All the replays of the episodes are archived there, so it's free to watch.
03:20:16.000 Rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
03:20:18.000 Or you can watch the replay on X. Just please be sure that if you're watching right now, you click the follow button.
03:20:24.000 You follow me at Laura Loomer and also follow at Loomer Unleashed.
03:20:28.000 And repost the live stream so that other people can see this interview as well.
03:20:33.000 And also be sure that you visit lumered.com and share the articles that I spoke about tonight so that people can be aware of the snakes.
03:20:42.000 Trying to sneak their way back into the Trump administration and the big tech billionaires and current Trump administration officials who, unfortunately, but not surprisingly, because I've been telling you these guys are cocksuckers and they can't be trusted, not surprisingly, I don't trust these people at all.
03:20:59.000 I warned you.
03:21:00.000 I told you that it doesn't matter how rich they are.
03:21:02.000 There's no such thing as a reawakening.
03:21:05.000 It's called political opportunism, and we've talked a lot about it tonight on this show.
03:21:09.000 It comes in many forms.
03:21:11.000 As you've seen tonight, it comes from China, it comes from Silicon Valley, it comes from Washington, D.C., it comes all over.
03:21:19.000 We're surrounded by it every single day and every single day.
03:21:24.000 It's our jobs to point it out.
03:21:26.000 And unfortunately, the media and the political elites in the RNC and even people in the Trump administration are failing to see this.
03:21:35.000 And it's very, very concerning because we cannot allow for infiltrators and subverters and people who have bad intentions to get into the Republican Party or to get into the Trump administration.
03:21:48.000 And so with that, I hope that you found this episode I hope you all have a wonderful Valentine's Day.
03:22:12.000 I hope you have a wonderful weekend.
03:22:14.000 And I will see you next Tuesday for another episode of Loomer Unleashed.
03:22:18.000 Thanks so much for tuning in.
03:22:20.000 Have a great weekend.
03:22:21.000 There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
03:22:30.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.