Florida Rep. Alex Andrade joins me on the show tonight to talk about how Ron DeSantis and his staff coerced Florida lawmakers to endorse him in his primary campaign for governor. We also discuss the allegations that the Deep State is trying to block the confirmation of Defense Secretary nominee Pete Hegseth.
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00:25:52.000Momentarily, I'm going to be joined tonight by a Florida representative in the Florida legislature, a guy by the name of Alex Andrade.
00:26:06.000I wanted to make sure that I pronounced his name correctly.
00:26:48.000They said, no, he just became governor.
00:26:50.000What makes you think that he's going to run for president of the United States?
00:26:54.000And the reality is, is that if you've been following Florida politics or you're familiar with the Florida GOP at all, then you know that it's one of the most corrupt Republican parties throughout the entire nation.
00:27:06.000And Alex Andrade is very familiar with that corruption as a member of the Florida legislature.
00:27:14.000He's been personally victimized by Ron DeSantis, and now because he actually has the integrity as somebody who has in the past, you know, supported Ron DeSantis, Alex Andrade actually endorsed Ron DeSantis for president, not because he wanted to,
00:27:30.000he's going to get into this tonight too, but because, you know, he was coerced, he was actually coerced.
00:27:34.000By Ron DeSantis and his staff who were going around threatening Florida lawmakers to endorse Ron DeSantis over Donald Trump.
00:27:42.000And so there's a lot that we're going to get into tonight.
00:27:45.000We're going to have Representative Andrade here with us for about an hour because the information that he's going to reveal to you is quite shocking.
00:27:54.000And it confirms what many have called a conspiracy as it relates to the conduct of Ron DeSantis and his staff.
00:28:03.000We're also going to address the recent allegations coming out of the Department of Defense that there is a soft coup taking place against Pete Hegseth, our Defense Secretary.
00:28:13.000And this is something that I've been reporting on.
00:28:16.000As we know, there were a lot of GOP senators who didn't want to necessarily confirm Pete Hegseth for his position of Defense Secretary.
00:28:24.000I've always been an adamant supporter of Pete.
00:28:26.000He's somebody that I've known for a long time.
00:28:28.000He's a personal friend of mine, and I think he's...
00:28:31.000Going to do a great job as defense secretary.
00:28:33.000But it's not a surprise to anybody, or it shouldn't be a surprise at least, that the deep state and all of these rhino obstructionist senators want to have control over the military-industrial complex, and so thus they put up a fight for the defense secretary position,
00:28:50.000and they adamantly oppose Pete Hegseth.
00:28:54.000I think that even President Trump wasn't sure that Pete Hegseth was going to survive the confirmation process.
00:29:15.000We're going to ask him tonight because he's here with us for an entire hour.
00:29:20.000There was a story in NBC News during the week of the confirmation hearings for Pete Hegseth, and the story was Pete Hegseth is likely not going to survive the confirmation process, and so...
00:29:33.000President Trump met with Casey DeSantis and Ron DeSantis at Mar-a-Lago and went golfing at his golf club in West Palm Beach and decided that Ron DeSantis is going to be the next defense secretary.
00:29:43.000Well, it's kind of true and it's also kind of not true.
00:29:46.000What is true is the fact that Ron DeSantis is the backup position for Pete Hegseth and he was selected by President Trump, my sources have confirmed this, to be the replacement or rather the Plan B Option 2 backup candidate For Pete Hegseth,
00:30:05.000if Pete Hegseth didn't survive the confirmation process.
00:30:12.000He was able to get confirmed, he got voted in.
00:30:14.000However, now, after SignalGate, the question is, why is there so many calls for Pete Hexeth to be fired, but there aren't calls for Michael Waltz to be fired, right?
00:30:24.000Michael Waltz is the one who created the chat with Alex Wong, you know, the Deputy National Security Advisor who I exposed for his ties to China and his wife who, you know, worked to prosecute J6ers during the Biden regime.
00:30:39.000It's really interesting you see that there's so much vitriol.
00:30:41.000There's so many leaks coming out of the Department of Defense and so many attacks against Pete Hegseth.
00:30:47.000Well, that's because Ron DeSantis is positioning himself and is actually trying to get within the Trump administration, he wants to replace Pete Hegseth.
00:30:59.000What is that going to look like for the state of Florida?
00:31:01.000Obviously, Byron Donald has filed to run for governor of Florida.
00:31:05.000President Trump has already endorsed Byron Donald to run for governor of Florida.
00:31:09.000That is happening right now as I speak to you tonight.
00:31:12.000Jeanette Nunez, the lieutenant, or I guess I should say former lieutenant governor of Florida because she went to go work and become the president of FIU, Florida International University, a large college here in the state of Florida.
00:31:25.000The seat for the lieutenant governor is vacant.
00:31:30.000What happens if Ron DeSantis, who did not appoint himself to become the next senator, he appointed Ashley Moody, thus opening up the Florida Attorney General slot?
00:31:39.000You have a guy named James Uthmeyer, who served as Ron DeSantis' campaign manager.
00:31:44.000If you're a longtime viewer of Loomer Unleashed, then you know we've covered extensively the corruption of James Uthmeyer, and I've reported extensively on the conflicts of interest that exist.
00:31:55.000And we're going to get into that tonight because Representative Andrade is actually calling for James Uthmeyer's prosecution and bravely.
00:32:03.000But before I get into that, you have to understand the dynamic before I bring Representative Andrade on.
00:32:08.000The play here is for Ron DeSantis to become the defense secretary in a negotiation so that his wife decides to stand down and not run for governor of Florida.
00:32:21.000Or perhaps it would be arranged so that she could be the lieutenant governor under Byron Donalds.
00:32:26.000Although I've been told that there are other candidates for lieutenant governor, which include current members of the Florida Republican legislature.
00:32:38.000I'm not going to disclose the names of those individuals, but I do know that there is talks taking place right now to...
00:32:48.000Select a female member of the Florida Republican legislature to perhaps become the lieutenant governor under Byron Donalds when he is the next governor of Florida.
00:32:58.000So when I'm allowed to disclose that information, you'll be the first to know here on Loomer Unleashed.
00:33:04.000But if Byron Donalds is appointed governor and Casey DeSantis stands down, the play then is for Joe Gruters to be appointed as CFO.
00:33:18.000And then you avoid a very messy primary and you avoid all the drama and all of the, you know, contentious debate and all of the infighting in the Republican Party.
00:33:28.000In fact, my next guest joining me now, Representative Alex Andrade from the 2nd District here in the state of Florida, joins me now on Loomer Unleashed to discuss what I'm calling Hude Santas and his efforts to prosecute the Florida Attorney General.
00:33:46.000General James Uthmeyer and also the reason why he is calling for an investigation of fraud and alleged money laundering against Ron DeSantis and Casey DeSantis.
00:33:59.000Representative Andrade, thanks so much for joining me tonight here on Loomer Unleashed.
00:34:22.000You, as I said in the introduction to this interview, you were a really outspoken DeSantis supporter.
00:34:29.000You assisted the governor with legislation as it related to going after Disney and all of the woke degeneracy that we saw with Disney supporting an assault on parental rights here in the great state of Florida.
00:34:48.000You endorsed Ron DeSantis for president when he ran against President Donald Trump.
00:34:55.000Although... You know, you didn't really get to do so according to your own will.
00:34:59.000And now, even though you have been what many would call a DeSantis loyalist within the Florida legislature in Tallahassee, you are now being accused of being a traitor and a rhino and a saboteur by Governor Ron DeSantis and his attorney general.
00:35:17.000I thought the attorney general was supposed to be, you know, a nonpartisan position here, but what do I know?
00:35:22.000For calling out the fact that Casey DeSantis DeSantis received $10 million for her foundation, her charity, whatever you want to call it, and those funds were used in violation of the rules set forth within a charity,
00:35:40.000You're not supposed to use those funds for political purposes to support the anti-marijuana amendments along with other legislative issues that her husband, Ron DeSantis, the current governor of Florida, wanted to support.
00:35:53.000During this last election season in the 2024 election cycle, can you please break down the Hope Florida scandal and explain to the viewers tonight why all of a sudden you've gone from being a DeSantis loyalist to a so-called saboteur rhino?
00:36:14.000So I'm the chair of the health care budget committee in the Florida House, meaning I oversee the health care funds that we spend.
00:36:21.000It's about $35 billion of our $116 billion budget.
00:36:27.000What we found out in the past two weeks is that ACA, the Agency for Healthcare Administration in Florida, which manages Medicaid in Florida, they entered into a settlement with a company called Centene, which is a Medicaid provider in the state with a multi-billion dollar contract with the state to administer Medicaid,
00:36:48.000entered into a settlement for $67 million.
00:36:55.000Instead of that money all coming back to the state, to our coffers and our bank account, someone in the governor's office had the bright idea to shave $10 million off of that settlement.
00:37:07.000Say,"Hey, give the state $57 million and send the Hope Florida Foundation, Casey DeSantis' charity, $10 million of that settlement money." Again, these are Medicaid dollars.
00:37:20.000DACA's got to report this settlement to CMS, the federal agency.
00:37:25.000They've reported that they entered into a settlement for $67 million Medicaid dollars.
00:37:31.000That $10 million went to the Hope Florida Foundation, and within days, it immediately got wired to two dark money groups, one connected to the Florida Chamber of Commerce and one connected to Drug Free America.
00:37:43.000The second those two groups got that money, they turned around and wired it to James Uthmeyer's PAC.
00:37:53.000Essentially, when DeSantis was looking for money to fight against the Amendment 3 campaign to legalize marijuana in Florida, someone in the governor's office had the brilliant idea to use Medicaid funds and send Medicaid funds to this PAC to fight against this amendment.
00:38:15.000We now know that James Uthmeyer is the one that involved himself in the settlement with Aka and Centene, immediately reached out to these groups, told them to lie to the Hope Florida Foundation and promised the Hope Florida Foundation they wouldn't use it for political purposes,
00:38:31.000got the Hope Florida Foundation chairman, Josh Hay, to wire this money without any oversight or approval from the board at the foundation, and then the governor's personal attorney, or one of the governor's attorneys named Jeff Aaron, Helped these two groups draft their letters of request and then bird-dogged the wire transfers.
00:38:51.000And literally the day after these groups got this money, they wired it to James's PAC.
00:39:03.000I don't think our Attorney General James Uthmeyer could with a straight face right now prosecute anyone else for money laundering or wire fraud.
00:39:10.000And I think that's a terrible position for the state to be in.
00:39:14.000Well, I think it's also a really terrible position for the state to be in, given the fact that James Uthmeyer is still listed as the active chairman for Ron DeSantis' other PAC, the Florida Freedom Fund.
00:39:24.000So I don't really understand how this guy can be the Attorney General of Florida when he hasn't even divested himself from the funds.
00:39:34.000He signed the paperwork after the confirmation.
00:39:37.000So he was sworn in as Attorney General.
00:39:50.000And then he sent the paperwork to the Florida Division of Elections three days after the fact.
00:39:56.000So technically speaking, he didn't wait to divest himself.
00:40:01.000From this PAC or take his name off of the paperwork as the chairman until he was officially sworn in, which is, you know, the complete reverse of how it's supposed to be done.
00:40:11.000You're supposed to get rid of all of your conflicts, technically speaking, you know, before you're actually sworn in, because otherwise, you know, you are acting in an official capacity as a chief law enforcement officer here in the state of Florida on behalf of a partisan effort.
00:40:33.000You're supposed to be able to potentially prosecute the governor of Florida if the evidence suggests that the governor of Florida and his wife and his associates...
00:41:13.000Because I saw that that was kind of buried today amid the headlines.
00:41:16.000But I think that people should know that Jeff Aaron, who is now making excuses for why he can't attend your upcoming hearing as it relates to this scandal this week, Jeff Aaron, who is the governor's attorney, is best friends with James Uthmeyer,
00:41:32.000who was Ron DeSantis' campaign manager for the presidential primary against President Trump.
00:41:37.000And then he was appointed by Ron DeSantis to be the Attorney General less than one month after he transferred $1 million of funds from the Florida Freedom Fund PAC, which is now being used as a secret slush fund to support Casey DeSantis' upcoming gubernatorial run here in the state of Florida,
00:41:59.000very similar to the PAC shenanigans that Ron DeSantis...
00:42:04.000Conducted and carried out when he decided to run for president, transferring funds from a state entity, Friends of Ron DeSantis, over to the federal Never Back Down Super PAC, a story that we broke here on Loomer Unleashed.
00:42:16.000But I just find it to all be so salacious and so incestuous.
00:42:26.000I mean, how do you have a lawyer representing the governor who is best friends with Well, the answer is you can't.
00:42:45.000And going back to some of the things you mentioned about James Uthmeyer, the governor's kind of circle, especially during that presidential election, the primary, I mean, the governor's circle started dwindling to the point where he had to rely on his shrinking circle.
00:43:02.000Not only to do his job as governor, but also to do a ton of work on the campaign.
00:43:07.000I mean, there was no secret that James Uthmeyer was making campaign calls and pressuring people from the governor's office, from the plaza level here in the Capitol.
00:43:17.000I mean, going so far as, I mean, yeah, I endorsed Governor DeSantis.
00:43:23.000I would not have if I hadn't gotten multiple calls from the governor's office.
00:43:27.000Reminding me the budget for that year's session hadn't been signed yet.
00:43:32.000I work on getting funds for my community.
00:43:35.000That's one of the biggest responsibilities I have while I'm stuck here in Tallahassee during session.
00:43:40.000So every time they reminded me the budget hadn't been signed yet by the governor, they were telling me,"Hey, your name is conspicuously off this endorsement list.
00:43:50.000We haven't signed the budget yet." If I hadn't endorsed the governor, I guarantee you a ton of my projects would have been vetoed the same way.
00:43:59.000Joe Grutter's projects were vetoed that year.
00:44:02.000So I was stuck between, you know, doing a good job for my constituents in Pensacola in northwest Florida or just endorsing DeSantis.
00:44:10.000And so it was it was kind of a tough position to be put in.
00:44:14.000One of the funnier stories is like when DeSantis released that long list of the Republican legislators in Florida that endorsed them, it was alphabetical for the first like 90 some odd legislators.
00:44:25.000And then there was like a handful of like 10 legislators.
00:44:29.000The very bottom of this list that were not in alphabetical order.
00:44:32.000And those were all the folks who literally endorsed the guy in the 11th hour just to keep their projects from getting vetoed.
00:44:41.000But no, I absolutely did not appreciate the way they conflated public service with DeSantis' political ambition.
00:44:49.000What were some of the tactics that were utilized by Ron DeSantis' staff?
00:44:54.000During the primary season to threaten lawmakers like yourself, because I remember when I was reporting on this and other people were reporting on it, Ron DeSantis said that this was fake news and that the media was lying and that this was Trump operatives trying to create a false image of the governor,
00:45:11.000when in reality, Ron DeSantis operates Tallahassee like a mob boss and James Uthmeyer, who was working as...
00:45:20.000He was working as the chief of staff for Ron DeSantis, but also working as his campaign manager.
00:45:25.000Again, another violation because we saw that a lot of these DeSantis campaign operatives, including Christina Poushaw and Brian Griffin and a lot of these individuals who were working, Taryn Finsk is another one of these individuals, working in the governor's office.
00:45:42.000You know, openly working with the super PAC, openly working with the campaign.
00:45:47.000And it's like, there's supposed to be a 120-day, you know, freeze-out period between the campaign and the PAC.
00:45:53.000And so the question was, how are these people simultaneously all working in the governor's office and then also working on the campaign and then also attending PAC events?
00:46:02.000So it was just campaign finance violation.
00:46:07.000And then, you know, constant gaslighting from the Ron DeSantis campaign.
00:46:11.000And it seems like the FEC and also just the Florida legal apparatus as a whole gave him an excuse because I like to say Ron DeSantis' running mate was essentially Jack Smith.
00:46:36.000We're going to cut your appropriations in the budget.
00:46:40.000And we're going to make it look like you are a deficient or incompetent lawmaker, which is what they did to Joe Gruters, right?
00:46:49.000They literally cut the funding in the budget for his district, and the only people who suffered were people in his district, some of whom were hurricane victims.
00:46:57.000And they did this to try to retaliate against lawmakers who endorsed Ron DeSantis.
00:47:05.000You know, I'm a fan of beating a lot of people up.
00:47:08.000I'm a fan of verbally beating people up for being disloyal against President Trump and siding with DeSantis.
00:47:12.000There were a lot of people, unfortunately, like yourself, who were literally forced into endorsing Ron DeSantis.
00:47:20.000Well, and I know President Trump made that announcement pretty soon after that announcement that all these state legislators endorsed DeSantis, that we'd all been threatened.
00:47:34.000President Trump doesn't treat loyalty as only a one-way street.
00:47:38.000I appreciate the fact that the Trump apparatus has always given some grace and understood the pressure we were put under by Governor DeSantis.
00:47:47.000But what I would note is when you're looking at Governor DeSantis and his future ambitions at this point, when he came in as governor, his net worth was something like $300,000.
00:47:59.000So he was not independently wealthy like Governor Scott.
00:48:03.000He was not successful in his private life at all, like any other, like President Trump.
00:48:09.000And because of that, he started treating over time all the financial assets of the state as his own personal assets.
00:48:18.000He doesn't own a house other than the governor's mansion.
00:48:20.000So in two years, he will be without a home.
00:48:45.000I've heard from several sources in the governor's office that every time we talk about limiting his ability to use that private jet as he sees fit, he loses his mind.
00:49:00.000When we were having that fight over the immigration bills a few months ago, he used that jet to fly around the state and do campaign events against us.
00:49:09.000I think he is looking down the barrel in a year and a half of not having a house, not being gameplay employed, and trying to figure out how to...
00:49:19.000He used the jet to transport himself to campaign fundraisers when he ran for president.
00:49:25.000Yeah. And he got caught using FDLE security guards and the governor's plane when he was running his shadow presidential campaign during his Florida Freedom Blueprint tour for his book tour,
00:50:01.000Have a job outside of the federal government or state government, for that matter, and they don't know what it's like to even own a home because they don't own a home.
00:50:10.000Ron DeSantis, when he was a member of Congress, was living in the condo of former Republican donor and alleged pedophile, Kent Sturman.
00:50:20.000Ken Sturman, who was a big-time donor, and he organized fundraisers for a lot of people up in Jacksonville, up in Tallahassee.
00:50:28.000He was Ron DeSantis' best friend, and Ken Sturman used to go and brag about how, oh, it's great to be best friends with Ron and Casey DeSantis, and Ron DeSantis was living in his condo when he was a no-name member of the United States Congress.
00:50:46.000And then Ron DeSantis pretended like he didn't know who Ken Sturman was when he killed himself in the parking lot of a post office one day while he was under investigation for sexually assaulting a young girl and making sexual advances against a minor while his wife was dying from cancer.
00:51:04.000The story goes, and we can get the story pulled up.
00:51:06.000I mean, there was a really big Daily Mail story.
00:51:09.000I know that I was one of the first people to speak about this openly during the Republican presidential primary, but this guy whose home Ron DeSantis was living in apparently bribed this young babysitter,
00:51:25.000this 17-year-old girl, with Taylor Swift concert tickets as she lifted up her shirt and sent him photos of her boobs.
00:51:33.000And this is who Ron DeSantis' best friend is.
00:51:40.000Yeah. And going back to using assets of the state, there was one campaign report where James Uthmeyer was the number one fundraiser for DeSantis.
00:51:50.000Imagine if Suzy Wiles was Donald Trump's number one campaign fundraiser.
00:51:55.000Everybody would find that to be obscene.
00:51:58.000And for whatever reason, Governor DeSantis was perfectly fine using his...
00:52:03.000The public service staff, like his chief of staff and his office personnel, as campaign volunteers.
00:52:09.000They all had to fly up to Iowa to go beg people for votes.
00:52:14.000He pressured legislators to go up to Iowa as well.
00:52:18.000He wouldn't have been caught dead up in Iowa for DeSantis.
00:52:23.000He's not the type of person that engenders loyalty because he just takes from people around him.
00:52:29.000And if you don't agree with him, then you're the devil.
00:52:34.000You know, there's so many instances of that, but like, shoot, like to call me liberal, I passed the bill to ban DEI and higher education here in Florida.
00:52:42.000I passed the bill to ban vaccinations by force here in Florida.
00:52:45.000I've taken a ton of arrows for this guy defending his kind of, you know, wishy-washy policies on COVID initially.
00:52:52.000I remember having to beg them to reopen.
00:52:55.000During COVID, there's a lot of revisionist history that goes along with Governor DeSantis.
00:53:00.000I mean, I remember his first legislative session in 2019, where he came out in support of smokable medical marijuana and wanted to frame himself as a big environmentalist.
00:53:13.000So to see him now, he figured out some kind of weird lane.
00:53:17.000To appeal to a small subset of Republicans, and he's just been hammering that lane ever since.
00:53:23.000His personality has changed over time the longer he's been in the governor's office.
00:53:29.000Seems like his whole facade of being, you know, the best governor in the nation and the governor of the free estate in the nation, it's all been one big facade.
00:53:38.000And look, I tried blowing the whistle on this when he was running for president against President Trump.
00:53:43.000And even before he filed, I was telling everybody, you know, hey, Governor Ron DeSantis is bullshit.
00:53:48.000When I was running for Congress, he was on Fox News talking about how he was making it illegal in the state of Florida for them to deplatform candidates running for office.
00:53:58.000I was literally the only candidate in the nation denied all access to social media when I decided to run for Congress, and he didn't say shit when President Trump was deplatformed.
00:54:09.000In fact, after January 6th, Ron DeSantis invited the Capitol Police here to the state of Florida to hunt down Trump supporters, and so it's really interesting that he's now accusing you of being a saboteur and a rhino.
00:54:23.000I want to go ahead and play this clip of Ron DeSantis getting very flustered.
00:54:42.000Yeah, I mean, like, the way he acts and everything, I've always just kind of thought he's probably undiagnosed but probably has something like Asperger's, yeah.
00:54:52.000Yeah, there were articles about it, too, during the presidential campaign season.
00:54:56.000And I'm not trying to poke fun at the governor for a disability or a condition that he may have.
00:55:03.000There's a lot of people who are on the spectrum who have forms of autism, who are highly successful individuals.
00:55:09.000But because the governor appears to display signs of Asperger's syndrome...
00:55:14.000He has no social skills and he is not really able to communicate with people, which is why his campaign failed so miserably.
00:55:21.000But also he becomes very flustered when he's publicly challenged and he doesn't have the charisma like Donald Trump does or, you know, a lot of these other lawmakers have to just brush it off when he's confronted.
00:55:35.000It's about three minutes long of him being confronted about the Hope Florida scandal that...
00:55:40.000You are now investigating, and I just want to go ahead and play this so that people can see the governor's deflection because, you know, here we have somebody who was called a DeSantis loyalist, right?
00:56:38.000But the inside of Hope Florida didn't ask for any money for it for the legislature, didn't need any new policy, but just through the First Lady's initiative that we are going to reimagine the way we provide services to those in need.
00:56:53.000And so instead of the job of somebody working in these agencies to just try to get people on as many government programs as possible and keep them on indefinitely, we're transforming the role to be a hope navigator where the job of government is to link those people in need to all the wonderful resources that we have throughout our Florida communities.
00:57:15.000So we've enlisted the faith-based community, we've enlisted charitable organizations, we've enlisted businesses, and we've enlisted Individual volunteers who answer the call when somebody comes in need, the needs go into a care portal, and all of a sudden you have a single mom that doesn't have a place to stay.
00:57:33.000It's not the bureaucracy that's going to lift her up.
00:57:36.000It's the church that comes over or the charity that comes over to do that.
00:57:40.000And what are the results since this has been implemented?
00:57:44.000We've gotten 30,000 people off welfare and saved the state of Florida $100 million.
00:58:21.000Republican leadership in the Florida House joining with liberal media and joining with Democrats to launch baseless smears against Hope Florida and, by extension, myself and the First Lady.
00:59:37.000So because you're not a drone and because you don't want to excuse corruption in your own political party, You are betraying the voters, Representative Andrade.
00:59:48.000You are a traitor to the Republican Party and the people who voted for you because...
00:59:54.000This is how Ron DeSantis operates in Tallahassee.
01:00:25.000And I think maybe beforehand when he had the media under his control and people were not awakened to how disloyal this man truly is and how corrupt he truly is and how he is so calculated and cunning and everything that he does from appointing his own Secretary of State,
01:00:48.000With the knowledge that Cord Bird would go ahead and change the Florida PAC laws for him so that he could transfer millions of dollars, over $80 million from his state PAC to the federal PAC to hand-selecting the Secretary of State.
01:01:05.000And people believe that he bribed and actually had his fund send money to the former, or I guess current, Florida.
01:01:15.000Former Speaker of the House in Florida, we have a new Speaker of the House, Danny Perez, who's since challenging Ron DeSantis.
01:01:22.000But the former Speaker of the House and the Senate leader, the FEC records reveal that ahead of the Republican primary, they received hefty campaign contributions from Ron DeSantis's political entities.
01:01:36.000And many people believe it was so that they would support him changing the resign to run law, something that applied to Congress.
01:01:50.000But Ron DeSantis, of course, wants to have the best of both worlds.
01:01:54.000He wants to run a presidential campaign on taxpayer dime, and he wants to receive the salary as the governor of Florida, which is why he hand-selects people who are going to do his bidding.
01:02:08.000That is why he had Jeanette Nunez, another Trump hater who went around calling President Trump A member of the KKK and accusing him of being an anti-black racist.
01:02:19.000That's why he's appointed James Uthmeyer.
01:02:22.000So my question to you is, what's the next step?
01:02:25.000Who's going to be referred for prosecution?
01:02:27.000And do you think that Ron DeSantis should resign as governor of Florida?
01:02:33.000Well, if the question about do I think DeSantis should resign is...
01:02:39.000Do I want to be subjected to more of those whiny, toddler tantrum press conferences where I have to hear his accent?
01:02:46.000I've always described his accent as a mix between New Jersey and toddler.
01:02:51.000I'm just so fed up with hearing his whiny, nasally tone constantly.
01:03:00.000It's like a very nasally voice and you're not going to get away with this.
01:03:04.000And it appears to me that President Trump doesn't want to have free and fair elections.
01:03:09.000Yeah, I mean, it's like the most annoying voice.
01:03:24.000And it's like therapy every single time I get to go to a campaign event with my husband because I can't stand being around my toddlers because it's so stressful being a mother of three young kids.
01:03:32.000So thanks so much for having me here tonight because it's like therapy, right?
01:03:36.000Every single time she talks, it's like she's almost like using the time to talk to the audience or whichever crowd she's speaking to as a form of therapy because it sounds like she can't even stand being around her own children.
01:03:51.000Well, I'd rather he resign than have to be subjected to his nasally tone for another year and a half.
01:04:00.000Obviously, he's so fixated on the Florida House right now.
01:04:05.000He's welcome to run for the Florida House when he turns out, if he doesn't resign first, if he thinks he can do our job better.
01:04:12.000But no, as far as who might be prosecuted, right now, I do believe that James Uthmeyer should be subject to a federal investigation and prosecution.
01:04:20.000I believe that he directed $10 million of Medicaid money, that within two weeks of this settlement with Centene, $10 million was directed to this charity, then extracted immediately from this charity.
01:04:33.000Then he got $8.5 million of those Medicaid dollars, sent to his own personal PAC.
01:05:29.000She doesn't have any qualifications to become governor.
01:05:32.000So they're trying to manufacture this make-believe charity and make it sound like it's saved so many people's lives here in the state of Florida and that it's done so much good so that they can manufacture a resume the same way that they manufactured a political resume for Ron DeSantis when he decided to run for...
01:05:51.000I want to read to you a section from an exclusive report I released last week on my website, and I want to get your comments on it, because I believe that this warrants an investigation.
01:06:02.000So as you mentioned before, Ron DeSantis' hand-picked AG, James Uthmeyer, who was his campaign manager for his presidential campaign against Trump, operated a PAC called Keep Florida Clean.
01:06:15.000So the article that I released said, separately, Keep Florida Clean, Inc.
01:06:19.000chaired by James Uthmeyer donated $1.1 million to the Florida Freedom Fund on December 12, 2024, followed by an additional $131,000 on February 4, 2025.
01:06:31.000These contributions came after the 2024 election and shortly before Uthmeyer's appointment as Florida Attorney General, as announced by Ron DeSantis on January 16, 2025.
01:06:42.000So, you know, the question I have is, if the elections are over and Ron DeSantis is termed out as governor, why is his PAC accepting so many contributions after the 2024 presidential election?
01:06:54.000We were told that the Florida Freedom Fund needed these funds.
01:06:58.000We know that Ron DeSantis doesn't support Randy.
01:07:00.000And he didn't want to get involved in the race with Jimmy Petronas.
01:07:04.000And so what exactly were these funds used for?
01:07:06.000It's kind of strange that, you know, in an off political year, the governor is doing millions of dollars of political fundraising.
01:07:13.000And I truly believe that the Florida Freedom Fund, which is Ron DeSantis' PAC, which is chaired by James Uthmeyer, It's going to be used as a slush fund for Casey DeSantis' gubernatorial run.
01:07:28.000These contributions came after the 2024 election and shortly before Uthmeyer's appointment as Florida Attorney General, announced by DeSantis on January 16th, 2025, right?
01:08:11.000You know, 12 days or so before he was sworn in, he made sure to dump the rest of the money that was in Keep Florida Clean over to Ron DeSantis' other PAC.
01:08:22.000But then he waited until three days after he was officially sworn in as the Attorney General of Florida to officially file paperwork with the Florida Division of Elections to disband as is seen by the form signed by Uthmeyer and received.
01:08:39.000They put a stamp that said vote no on three on the official paperwork for the Florida Division of Elections, which is kind of asinine given the fact that the election was already over and they already won as it related to that issue of defeating the marijuana lobby,
01:08:59.000which is another ethics violation given the fact that Some of Ron DeSantis' biggest donors while he was trying to run this massive statewide campaign against Amendment 3 were people from the hemp industry who,
01:09:14.000in addition to donating to Ron DeSantis, also supported James Uthmeyer's political entities.
01:09:21.000And so it just seems like one big slush fund.
01:09:24.000And what I want to know is, are you going to be doing an investigation into the Florida Freedom Fund as well and the ethics around Uthmeyer waiting until three days after he was officially sworn in as AG of Florida to disband the PAC that gave all of its money to Ron DeSantis?
01:09:45.000So I would say yes if I was a federal prosecutor, right?
01:09:53.000So my jurisdiction, the only reason why all this stuff has come to light related to Hope Florida is because that's within my jurisdiction as the healthcare budget chair.
01:10:02.000I think somebody absolutely should look into it.
01:10:05.000The cavalier hubris that's being exhibited by the DeSantis camp on this stuff is kind of shocking.
01:10:13.000I mean, James Uthmeyer all but admitted, yeah, you know, I did steer this $10 million in Medicaid money to my PAC, but hey, we won on Amendment 3, so it's all good.
01:11:02.000You know, do have an official prosecution more than the Hope Florida stuff will be looked into.
01:11:08.000And I sincerely hope that they do take it up because I'm convinced beyond all doubt that James Uthmeyer knew he was committing wire fraud and money laundering and just thought he was okay to do it.
01:11:22.000It's like, how dare you call me out on my misuse of taxpayer funds?
01:11:27.000They're acting put out by the fact that State legislators are doing their job looking into their spending and also providing oversight.
01:11:36.000There's a weird culture over here right now in the governor's office and I absolutely think it needs to be looked into.
01:11:43.000Yeah, and it also extends down to the donor class as well.
01:11:47.000Ron DeSantis doesn't just issue these retaliatory actions himself.
01:11:52.000And also, a lot of people aren't aware of this, but Casey, his wife, has an office that is within the governor's office.
01:11:59.000So a lot of people think that he's grooming her to become the next governor of Florida.
01:12:06.000But that leads me to my next question.
01:12:09.000I mean, you obviously believe that the DeSantis family stole $10 million from the citizens of Florida via James Uthmeyer, who they selected to be the new Attorney General of Florida.
01:12:24.000What are your thoughts on this theory that's swirling around Tallahassee?
01:12:28.000And have you actually heard this theory in Tallahassee that Ron DeSantis is being groomed to become the replacement for Pete Hegseth?
01:12:36.000So a way for him to kind of dodge the accountability with this scandal that's brewing.
01:12:42.000And if there is enough fervor in Washington, D.C. to actually remove Pete Hegseth in this deep state shadow campaign that seems to be taking place right now to attack him and remove him as defense secretary,
01:12:57.000that Governor Ron DeSantis would then become the new defense secretary.
01:13:03.000That would be a way for President Trump to negotiate Casey DeSantis standing down so that she doesn't launch a gubernatorial campaign against Congressman Byron Donald, who has officially filed to run for governor of Florida and has received President Trump's endorsement.
01:13:20.000So I'll premise this by saying I have not endorsed Byron Donald.
01:13:25.000I mean, when Matt Gaetz was up to become U.S. Attorney General, I was all in on Matt Gaetz then running for governor.
01:13:36.000I'm still holding out some kind of weird hope that Matt Gaetz might reconsider and run for governor still, even though he says he's not interested right now.
01:13:46.000So I don't really have a dog in the hunt related to who's the next governor of the state of Florida.
01:13:51.000Right, but as it relates to this theory that Ron DeSantis is, regardless of who you support for governor of Florida, because there are some people that said, oh, you know, this isn't actually happening, but we have a tweet from Roger Stone today who quote tweeted my post, and he actually, we can get that tweet up on the screen,
01:14:07.000and he actually said that his sources are telling him the same thing.
01:14:12.000We'll get it pulled up on the screen and you can see it for yourself.
01:14:15.000But apparently there's this whole plan in place to then make Joe Gruters the CFO of Florida, Byron Donalds the governor, and then he would be able to choose as the acting governor appointed by DeSantis his lieutenant governor, and then run with an incumbent protection or incumbent privilege.
01:14:37.000Amid the deep state's efforts to fire P. Hegseth as defense secretary, Governor Ron DeSantis has pitched himself as a replacement to be defense secretary.
01:14:44.000If this happens, he would likely make his wife his replacement as acting governor of Florida ahead of the 2026 Florida gubernatorial election so that she would have an incumbent privilege.
01:14:54.000There has been a lot of speculation about making Casey DeSantis lieutenant governor of Florida, but these discussions were happening at the same time P. Hegseth's confirmation The hearing was taking place and Ron was lining up to be his replacement.
01:15:05.000The position of Lieutenant Governor is currently vacant after FIU President Jeanette Nunez resigned in February.
01:15:10.000She's the new FIU President, of course, to become the president of Florida International University.
01:15:30.000Yeah. And so, no, I do think that he's been asking his circle to try and float this rumor about him becoming defense secretary because he is looking for an out.
01:15:42.000He does not own a house when he turns out in a year.
01:15:46.000He doesn't have any kind of, like, I don't know what he would do other than, like, maybe, I don't know, go be a lawyer for a law firm or, like, go be part of some think tank up in D.C. Maybe he would serve on the board of Boeing.
01:16:12.000Yeah, I think he would float himself as defense secretary right now because, again, he's looking for a landing place when he turns out as governor.
01:16:22.000I don't think he could appoint his wife to be I don't know why Trump would want to subject himself to Ron's accent either,
01:16:53.000And my heart would go out to any staff over at the DOD if he got up there and they had to be subjected to that constant whining too.
01:17:00.000But, you know, it's possible that President Trump could see this as an opportunity to structure his own state cabinet here in Florida of people that he believes in and supports.
01:17:18.000So it's possible that he could set it up that way if he sees that opportunity.
01:17:22.000One thing that I do know is Governor DeSantis has taken an idea of mine and tried to use it to ingratiate himself to President Trump, which is the concept of President Trump's library being built here in Florida.
01:17:36.000So I sponsored a bill in the House and my friend Jason Broder sponsored it in the Senate to essentially say local governments couldn't interfere.
01:17:49.000When President Trump wants to go place his presidential library somewhere here in the state of Florida, the idea being I don't want any kind of liberal zoning board in Palm Beach preventing President Trump from building his library where he wants and how he wants.
01:18:04.000Apparently, Governor Sanchez has taken that and has been trying to talk to Trump about the idea of his presidential library coming here to Florida as a way to ingratiate himself to President Trump.
01:18:15.000So maybe President Trump can cut a deal.
01:18:19.000At the same time, block out the governor and CFO position in the state.
01:18:29.000Another question that I have for you is, do you think that the Florida Chamber is complicit in all of this in an effort to carry out a pay-for-play in exchange for Floridians' rights under the guise of tort reform?
01:18:41.000We know that Ron DeSantis, one of his big things was this whole concept of tort reform, which is just his way of helping his buddies in the insurance industry so that he could load up with millions of dollars in preparation for his presidential campaign against President Trump.
01:18:56.000And then, of course, President Trump slammed Ron DeSantis for this during the primary, calling it the biggest insurance scam ever.
01:19:03.000We're now seeing insurance scams like this play out in other places like South Carolina.
01:19:11.000Do you think that the Florida Chamber is complicit in Ron DeSantis' actions and his money laundering or alleged money laundering and just really the facade of transparency?
01:19:25.000And strong leadership that he has projected onto the people of Florida during his time as governor of Florida.
01:19:35.000I think the Florida Chamber, with their 501c4 Secure Florida's Future, were complicit and participated in the money laundering and wire fraud of this $10 million.
01:19:45.000Mark Wilson is the CEO of the Chamber of Commerce.
01:19:47.000He's one of the ones that sent those dishonest letters that extracted the $5 million grants from the Hope Florida Foundation.
01:19:54.000He's shown no remorse and he's not shared any information with me about it.
01:19:59.000He seems to think, you know, it was perfectly fine to commit this money laundering wire fraud.
01:20:04.000So no, I absolutely think that they're participating, like the executives over the chamber with Governor DeSantis' kind of misdeeds to include like this one specific instance where $10 million in Medicaid money were illicitly transferred.
01:20:30.000Why do you think that Ron DeSantis decided to select an attorney, Jeff Aaron, who's best friends with his former campaign manager and now Attorney General James Uthmeyer?
01:20:42.000Do you think that they coordinated this from the get-go as a way to run cover with each other?
01:20:48.000Because I think it's really interesting.
01:20:51.000Through this investigation, I've discovered that...
01:20:54.000The attorney for Keep Florida Clean is the same attorney for Hope Florida, who's also the same attorney for Ron DeSantis?
01:21:03.000Yeah. There were two attorneys, but Jeff Aaron is the governor's go-to attorney for a ton of stuff right now.
01:21:11.000He was planted at the Hope Florida Foundation.
01:21:15.000There's text messages where he was assisting these two groups to get this money from the Hope Florida Foundation.
01:21:24.000You know, he got them to send those letters to the foundation.
01:21:27.000He, like, bird-dogged the wire transfer.
01:21:31.000Meaning, like, he was texting with these Greeks and asking them,"Have you got the money yet?" And literally, the next day after he confirmed that he got the money, the money was wired to James Uthmeyer's PAC.
01:21:41.000So, no, I absolutely believe that Jeff Aaron and James Uthmeyer conspired to do this.
01:21:48.000Would you encourage people who donated to any of these groups who have now discovered that their money has been given to Ron DeSantis' other entities, including his Florida Freedom Fund, which is now, as we discussed earlier, being used as a slush fund in preparation to support Casey DeSantis' gubernatorial campaign.
01:22:09.000Would you encourage people who gave money to these entities to band together to file a class-action lawsuit?
01:22:18.000I don't know what folks who donated to Keep Florida Clean would have a claim on.
01:22:21.000I would encourage the Hope Florida Foundation to act like they've been defrauded of $10 million because they have.
01:22:27.000I think that the Hope Florida Foundation's 501 status is in question next year.
01:22:34.000There's no way that they can justify this transfer of these funds knowing they went to a PAC and still maintain their 501 status.
01:22:42.000So if I were advising folks as a lawyer to a client, I would absolutely tell the Hope Florida Foundation they have to sue this chamber entity and this other entity to get their money back.
01:22:54.000Otherwise, it looks like they're also complicit in the fraud and the money laundering.
01:22:59.000How can the taxpayers get their money back?
01:23:04.000In this circumstance, unfortunately, I don't think that there's a way to get their money back.
01:23:12.000Or Governor Sances has already spent it.
01:23:16.000The only way for Hope Florida to get it back is to file suit against these 501C4s, but I'm willing to bet neither of them have any more money in their accounts at the moment.
01:23:26.000I know you said that you're calling on federal investigators to investigate this matter.
01:23:31.000What would you say to Attorney General Pam Bondi or FBI Director Cash Patel if they were here with us today?
01:23:39.000That Florida's Attorney General committed money laundering and wire fraud, and I hope that they would Would pursue that for the money laundering and wire fraud that it is.
01:23:48.000I mean, this is public corruption at its grossest.
01:23:52.000Do you think that Pam Bondi and Kash Patel should issue a statement about this?
01:23:58.000I mean, I know that Pam Bondi, of course, herself was the former Florida Attorney General, and now this directly involves Ron DeSantis' hand-selected candidate for the Florida Attorney General.
01:24:10.000But what do you think it's going to take to get somebody like Pam Bondi To issue a statement.
01:24:17.000But what can we do to get Blondie to issue a statement about this?
01:24:21.000Maybe we can get her booked on Fox News.
01:24:22.000We gotta do something to get more action from the DOJ on this because, you know, look, there seems to be this issue or this resistance within the Republican Party, which is why I wanted to have you on my program tonight because so many Republicans are so afraid to call out other Republicans who commit crimes or other Republicans who are involved in wrongdoing.
01:24:44.000Do you think that they're protecting him on a federal level?
01:24:47.000Do you think that we can expect to see any type of accountability?
01:24:50.000Or do you think that this is just going to be another year of Ron DeSantis gaslighting Florida citizens and Florida lawmakers accusing solid Republican representatives of being rhinos for asking questions about where the damn money went?
01:25:06.000All of this information has come out in the past week.
01:25:08.000I don't blame the Department of Justice for not You know, making a statement on it already.
01:25:15.000I mean, federal investigations take time.
01:25:17.000So, I mean, this is all literally coming out in real time in these, like, state house subcommittee meetings.
01:25:25.000So, no, unless, like, an FBI agent's there taking notes and collecting documents right as we're talking about it, I wouldn't blame them for not being fully aware of what's going on yet.
01:25:36.000I can tell you that they're becoming aware.
01:25:40.000But no, I don't blame them for not giving a statement yet.
01:25:43.000I would say in a month, if a statement hasn't been made, they're probably resting on their laurels and thinking hard about whether or not they want to prosecute a Republican.
01:25:54.000But at this point, I just think this is brand new information that's been coming out in real time in the past week and a half.
01:26:01.000What can you tell us about your upcoming hearing?
01:26:04.000There was an article that came out today in Florida Politics.
01:26:08.000Hope Florida Council can't make Thursday hearing.
01:26:11.000Alex Andrade wants a special Friday hearing to question him.
01:26:16.000Why can the governor's attorney not make your hearing?
01:26:21.000So, in the Florida legislature, we publish our committee schedules a week in advance, essentially.
01:26:26.000So, on Friday, not a week, but several days in advance.
01:26:29.000So, on Friday last week, we published our schedule.
01:26:32.000It showed that I had a block of time on Thursday from 8 a.m. to 12 to have my committee meeting this week, where I intended to have Jeff Aaron, the lawyer, Mark Wilson from the chamber.
01:26:45.000And Amy Rosenhausen from Drug Free America or Save Our Society from Drugs come and explain themselves and their actions and talk about exactly what happened, who they connected with and everything like that.
01:26:58.000Jeff Aaron, after my schedule was published and what looked to me to be like an attempt to act like you're being transparent, emailed me and said, hey, I'm more than happy to testify.
01:27:09.000But I'm not available on Thursday, but I'm more than happy to do it on Wednesday or Friday, like after my schedule was out.
01:27:16.000So thankfully, I asked the speaker to give me a second block of time on Friday this week, and he did.
01:27:24.000So I will have an extra special meeting to accommodate Jeff Aaron's busy schedule on Friday, and I expect him to attend and explain himself.
01:27:34.000What documents have you requested ahead of this hearing from Hope Florida?
01:27:39.000Sentine, Jeff Aaron, and Casey and Ron DeSantis.
01:27:44.000Bank records, communications about the settlement, communications about the wire transfers, all emails, all documents related to the settlement negotiation with Sentine, you know, text messages, contracts, anything like that.
01:27:58.000I expect to get a lot of documents tomorrow from certain specific individuals who...
01:28:05.000Or have been willing to participate and don't want to appear like they're complicit in this fraud.
01:28:10.000I haven't gotten anything from a state agency yet.
01:28:13.000So I'll be curious to see if I get anything from these state agencies that are technically supposed to be, you know, partners in public service here in the state.
01:28:22.000They also have public records requirements that I sincerely hope they comply with.
01:28:27.000But yeah, I mean, imagine right now me asking the attorney general's office.
01:28:31.000For documents related to the settlement.
01:28:33.000And imagine how quickly you think James Uthmeyer is going to get right on that to help provide those documents to me.
01:29:01.000This is the type of behavior that you would expect from Democrats, right?
01:29:06.000The acts of money laundering, wire fraud, lying, you know, appointing your close associates to be in positions of power and appointing them so that they can do your bidding and cover up your dirty work.
01:29:21.000Well, yeah, I mean, so I would look at Ron DeSantis' lifestyle as far more similar to Joe Biden's than President Trump's, right?
01:29:30.000I mean, Joe Biden was a career government employee, a career politician.
01:30:13.000I know you said that you prefer James Uthmeyer for prosecution, but do you think that this scandal warrants Ron DeSantis' resignation?
01:30:26.000On his face, I don't have any information saying Ron DeSantis was super active in any of this.
01:30:33.000I think in reality, my assumption would be that the only...
01:30:37.000Activity Ron DeSantis had directly on this was when James Uthmeyer wanted to get an attaboy from the governor and say,"Look how good the job I did.
01:30:45.000Got you 10 million in Medicaid funds to the campaign." So I wouldn't say I'm calling for the governor's resignation right now.
01:30:55.000I would just say I'm calling for the governor to do a better damn job in his last year and a half, right?
01:31:00.000I mean, this 10 million is not the only 10 million dollars that was wasted by this individual agency.
01:31:06.000You know, three weeks ago, we were talking about how ACA just misplaced $160 million.
01:31:12.000We gave them $160 million to pay a federal fine, and they essentially put it in the wrong bank account and used it as cash flow instead.
01:31:19.000So now we're faced with the fact that we have to give them another $160 million to pay the same darn federal fine they were supposed to pay three years ago.
01:31:31.000Every time people think about Governor DeSantis and his celebratory press conferences, They're almost always associated with bill signings.
01:31:40.000It's very evident to me at this point that Governor DeSantis might have been a great legislator.
01:34:01.000So I did a semester first at Mount Holyoke, and it was a women's school.
01:34:06.000And, you know, when I was, I went to boarding school, and I was always told, oh, you know, you have to go to the most elite school.
01:34:13.000And so I was waitlisted at Dartmouth, and I was, like, heartbroken over the fact that I couldn't go to Dartmouth.
01:34:18.000And I had my choice between all these different schools.
01:34:21.000I applied to a lot of liberal arts colleges on the East Coast.
01:34:25.000And I was kind of naive, you know, when I was in boarding school thinking, oh, you know, I have to go to the most expensive liberal arts school on the East Coast or else no one's going to take me seriously.
01:34:35.000And I did a semester at Mount Holyoke, which was considered Harvard for women back in the day when Harvard was all male.
01:36:35.000I've never seen the appeal in Ron DeSantis.
01:36:38.000I got in trouble when I was running for Congress as a Republican in the villages making comments like this and people would freak out because it was the first time they ever heard anybody and it was very taboo to speak out about Governor Ron DeSantis and it still was during the Republican primary and now a lot of people are starting to see these scandals for what they are.
01:36:59.000One of the last things I want to ask you before you go because you've been very gracious and generous with your time tonight.
01:37:04.000You know, this isn't the only scandal that we've seen here in the state of Florida as it relates to Ron DeSantis' legislative session.
01:37:11.000We've had several scandals involving Ron DeSantis' session, including the Buried Insurance Profit Report and the new Speaker of the House.
01:37:21.000has been very brave in calling this out and calling out Ron DeSantis'insurance scam and asking why this report was buried.
01:37:30.000And now we also have the $10 million donation to Casey's group, Hope Florida.
01:37:37.000Are there any other scandals that you're aware of that maybe the media,
01:37:41.000I mean, of course, from the scandal of...
01:37:49.000Collecting an entire year's worth of salary as governor of Florida while ditching the entire state to go run for president.
01:37:57.000Have you heard about the 2,000 missing cars?
01:38:06.000So, similar to how they just misplaced $160 million in their bank account and used as cash flow, in another state agency, They're supposed to be essentially like the HR department agency for the entire state.
01:38:27.000And they're also supposed to keep track of all the state's assets, like their land property and personal property.
01:38:35.000When we asked them,"Hey, can you provide us an inventory of all the state's vehicles?" They could not provide information or the locations of over 2000 state-owned vehicles.
01:38:46.000So imagine right now, Even a small percentage of that having been stolen or misused by a state employer just walked off the job.
01:38:55.000We have 2,000 unaccounted for cars in the state that they just can't tell us where they are.
01:39:01.000And they've pretty much told us they have no intent on getting us that information before the end of session.
01:39:07.000They don't seem to care or see the problem with that.
01:39:10.000So these are state workers using vehicles that are essentially state vehicles, and now they're using these state vehicles as their personal vehicles?
01:39:17.000Sounds a lot like what Ron DeSantis does.
01:39:19.000You know, he doesn't have a car, he doesn't have a house.
01:39:22.000He uses state vehicles for his own personal transportation.
01:39:26.000He's been caught doing this multiple times.
01:39:28.000Yeah, and when they essentially refused to provide all this information, we told the secretary for DMS,"Hey, we're going to withhold your salary until you actually do what we told you to do and give us this information." He responded and said,"I'll just wait you guys out and get my salary and back pay.
01:39:47.000I'll just wait until you guys are gone and get my salary and back pay." That's how brazen and cavalier they are with 2,000 missing state vehicles.
01:40:08.000They run the gamut, and it's across multiple state agencies.
01:40:12.000But I cannot imagine running a business and not knowing where 2,000 vehicles are located.
01:40:19.000Yeah, I'm assuming at some point we're going to discover that several have been stolen or gone missing.
01:40:25.000Or at least gone home with state employees that may have left the job or been fired.
01:40:31.000We also had, you know, pay raises given to positions that don't have employees in them.
01:40:38.000Like Governor DeSantis has asked us to give pay raises to these jobs that don't represent an actual employee.
01:40:45.000It's like you want to get a doge here in the state of Florida.
01:40:48.000We need to get Elon Musk down here to actually doge DeSantis and his operation because there's so much fraud, waste and abuse.
01:40:56.000What do you think about James Uthmeyer using high-profile cases as a way to distract from his own unethical behavior as the DeSantis-appointed AG?
01:41:09.000For example, his random state investigation into the Tate brothers upon their arrival in the state of Florida, and then additionally...
01:41:19.000The announcement six months after the fact that they were finally going to be charging Ryan Routh, the man who was arrested outside of President Trump's West Palm Beach Golf Club, with a rifle after he attempted to assassinate the president.
01:41:34.000Do you think there should be an investigation into Uthmeyer's abuse of power as well?
01:41:39.000I mean, a lot of people want to know how he can...
01:41:42.000You know, investigate the Tate brothers, you know, given the jurisdiction, they were simply just visiting the state of Florida, having meetings in Miami, South Florida.
01:41:53.000I understand that there was individuals in the Trump administration who allegedly helped them get into the United States of America.
01:42:00.000And then additionally, it just seems very bizarre that it would take James Uthmeyer and Ron DeSantis six months to finally announce charges for Ryan Routh, the man who tried to assassinate President Trump.
01:42:12.000It just almost seems like they're trying to use the high-profile news cycle events to mask their scandals.
01:42:19.000There's no question that the Tate Brothers commentary was politically motivated.
01:42:27.000I don't know and I cannot see any type of jurisdictional nexus between the state of Florida and what they've been accused of outside of the country.
01:42:39.000So, yeah, there's no question that James Uthmeyer was just attention-headline-grabbing when he was saying that stuff.
01:42:45.000I cannot possibly see, unless somehow they can say that they try to, like, lure someone from Florida specifically, but there's no evidence of that.
01:42:54.000There's nothing I've seen that relates to that.
01:42:57.000And so for James to kind of do that, that kind of grossed me out.
01:43:03.000But no, I mean, this is a guy that was...
01:43:12.000I mean, you want to go after the Tate brothers and accuse them of sex crimes, but Ron DeSantis still hasn't provided an explanation as to why he lived in a pedophile's home.
01:43:27.000Don't you think it's a little strange?
01:43:28.000A lot of people don't know this about Ron DeSantis, but it is a fact that when he was...
01:43:34.000A member of Congress, he was living in the home of Kent Sturman, who, you can pull in that Daily Mail article again, was under investigation for sex crimes with a minor before he decided to blow his brains out.
01:43:45.000Maybe he just couldn't handle the pressure.
01:43:47.000Some people believe that he may have actually been murdered, too, as a way to, you know, silence controversy ahead of the presidential primary.
01:44:44.000They tried to get all of this attention with the Tate brothers.
01:44:47.000Exclusive prominent DeSantis ally, it was his actual best friend, who shot himself dead last year, was under investigation for using sold-out Taylor Swift tickets to lure Teen to his office and show him her breasts.
01:45:01.000We have never heard a statement from Ron or Casey DeSantis about this situation, and I just find it to be hypocritical, because as you said, right, whether it's money laundering, wire fraud, or accusing high-profile people who support President Trump and are visiting the state of Florida of sex crimes.
01:45:19.000It just seems like everything that Ron DeSantis is accusing other people of, he or his political allies and associates are the ones that are guilty of it.
01:45:27.000And this little pedophile scandal is a perfect example.
01:45:31.000Yeah, I mean, he's definitely associated with, like, the rules for the Yubinah for Mikrel.
01:45:38.000Yeah, we have to do something about that because I think that we run the risk of actually getting a Democrat governor in the state of Florida if Republican corruption is allowed to go take place and be rampant in the Florida legislature without pushback from legislators like yourself because people are going to think,
01:45:58.000wow, these Republicans really are corrupt and so maybe I should vote Democrat.
01:46:02.000And I'm not encouraging people to vote Democrat, but I've always said that...
01:46:06.000You know, whoever decides to run for governor in 2026 was going to be burdened with the corrupt actions in the aftermath of the corrupt activity that took place during the Ron DeSantis administration.
01:46:17.000For example, the insurance crisis, right?
01:46:19.000That is something that impacts people.
01:46:25.000People are not able to retire and live here in the state of Florida.
01:46:28.000People who are living paycheck to paycheck or on Social Security are not seeing...
01:46:34.000You know, a shift in their Social Security payments as it relates to the increasing cost of living here in the state of Florida as a result of Ron DeSantis' absurd and corrupt tort reform.
01:46:45.000And so I think that people like you need to be applauded.
01:46:50.000Four, taking people in your own party on and challenging them and holding them accountable for their corruption and their alleged crimes.
01:46:57.000Because if we don't take the trash out in our own party, how can we tell voters to vote for us so we can take the trash out on the other side of the aisle?
01:47:05.000And what I can tell you is Governor DeSantis, during my committee meeting last week, scheduled a press conference in my home district, in my district, for the exact same time and tried to make it for the exact same length as my committee meeting.
01:47:21.000In that press conference he did in my district last week when I was over here doing work, doing my job, he trashed me and trashed everything we're doing in the legislature.
01:47:33.000And in response, I've gotten nothing but support from Republicans in my home district.
01:47:38.000Everybody wants to know exactly why they took this money and used it for political purposes.
01:47:43.000They treated taxpayer money like their own personal piggy bank.
01:47:48.000And I've got nothing but encouragement from local Republicans to keep doing what I'm doing.
01:47:51.000So I do think there's a sea change right now where people are seeing Ron DeSantis more and more for what he actually is.
01:47:58.000And I think the more temper tantrums he throws as we're going through this process, the less and less relevant he becomes.
01:48:06.000Absolutely. Any last comments or thoughts or any upcoming announcements that you want to share with my viewers before you depart this evening?
01:48:16.000I know that you've already said that you are encouraging the prosecution of James Uthmeyer.
01:48:23.000You think that Pan Bondi and Kash Patel should get involved in this matter to have a federal investigation into this alleged wire fraud and money laundering.
01:48:31.000Anything else you want the viewers to know?
01:48:34.000How can the viewers watching tonight Many of whom are very familiar with Ron DeSantis' corruption because it's a subject we cover extensively here and have been since the inception of the show.
01:48:46.000I believe the very first episode of Loomer Unleashed was actually dedicated to covering Ron DeSantis' efforts changing the Florida Resigned to Run law.
01:48:57.000So really, this program was essentially born and created out of exposing Ron DeSantis' crimes and his corruption, when you think about it.
01:49:06.000Anything else you want people to know or how they can help you in your efforts in holding him accountable?
01:49:12.000I know that the Florida legislature is coming to an end.
01:49:15.000There's about, what, one or two more weeks left?
01:49:17.000Maybe there's going to be an extension.
01:49:19.000But what can viewers do to assist you in making sure Ron DeSantis and James Uthmeyer do not get away with it?
01:49:26.000Well, if by some bizarre circumstance James Uthmeyer stays out of prosecution, avoids prosecution, And is on the ballot next fall.
01:49:36.000I just want folks to remember, this is the guy that treated Medicaid money like his own personal piggy bank and committed money laundering and wire fraud in the process and justifies it by saying, you know, Amendment 3 failed, so all my money laundering and wire fraud activities are justified.
01:49:52.000We do not want people like that in positions like the Florida Attorney General.
01:50:00.000If you have the opportunity, tell your friends and colleagues, tell your neighbors about the truth about what's going on up here in Tallahassee because DeSantis will do everything in his power to mislead and deflect from what's actually going on.
01:50:13.000So don't let people get away with being intellectually lazy and just listening to soundbites.
01:50:19.000Look into what's actually going on because it's very simple, the reality of the situation.
01:50:25.000And that's, you know, I'm a guy not running for future office.
01:50:29.000Literally going home when I term out next year.
01:50:34.000I was just livid when I discovered that James Uthmeyer treated Medicaid money like his own personal piggy bank and is now, like, brushing it off like it was no big deal.
01:51:23.000And this is where you see who's just a sycophant or who's a pure partisan and who actually is fighting for the people and is fighting for the truth.
01:51:31.000And, you know, Representative Andrade is a GOP representative.
01:51:35.000He represents portions of Escambia County and Santa Rosa County as well and in Florida's 2nd District.
01:51:47.000And yet he's challenging the Republican governor of Florida and the Republican appointed attorney general of Florida at a time when, you know, Ron DeSantis is openly threatening members of the legislature in his last year as governor of Florida.
01:52:09.000I mean, when you push back against Ron DeSantis, you face retaliation, especially here as a lawmaker in the state of Florida.
01:52:17.000Joe Gruters, who I know and I've known for several years, spoke out about this extensively, the way that Ron DeSantis retaliated against him.
01:52:24.000And now you see Representative Andrade is being attacked by Ron DeSantis, who behaves like a mob boss.
01:52:50.000Are you able to reconnect to sign off?
01:52:54.000If not, comma, I can close out for you.
01:53:00.000So breaking news, Representative Andrade says that he is currently doing this interview from the Florida Capitol in Tallahassee, and he says, I think they cut my Wi-Fi.
01:53:11.000That is literally word for word what he just said to me.
01:53:15.000If they actually cut the Wi-Fi for an elected Republican representative who is on an interview right now with me from his office inside the Florida Capitol, that is shocking.
01:54:27.000So again, people say, oh, you know, this sounds like a conspiracy.
01:54:31.000But no, Peter Antonacci, too, is another example.
01:54:33.000That's another scandal, right, that we still have never received any answers for.
01:54:37.000How did Peter Antonacci suspiciously die outside of Ron DeSantis' office in the Florida Capitol after having a very loud argument with him over the security of our elections?
01:54:48.000And why was his body left on the floor outside the governor's office for over 20 minutes?
01:54:52.000And the cameras, you know, in the hallways were suspiciously cut.
01:54:56.000Right. So there's a lot of shady stuff that happens with Ron DeSantis.
01:55:01.000And you've already been very generous with your time as it stands.
01:55:05.000I mean, I think this is why he's also shuffled all of his agency heads,
01:55:21.000too. That's one thing I forgot to ask you tonight about why you think Ron DeSantis shuffled all his agency heads.
01:55:28.000Well, again, he's got a shrinking circle, but I've always equated state government as far closer to Veep than House of Cards.
01:55:40.000I think there's a lot more bungling and incompetence than there is intentional wrongdoing.
01:55:45.000There's definitely intentional wrongdoing, but I think it's more as...
01:55:50.000It was more accurately depicted by Veep than House of Cards from my perspective.
01:55:56.000So if that helps with the perspective at all, there's definitely a lot of incompetence.
01:56:02.000There's a very small circle in the Santa's camp.
01:56:04.000So they just don't have a deep bench anymore.
01:56:07.000I don't know if they ever really did have a truly deep bench, but they definitely don't have a deep bench now.
01:56:12.000Is there any steps you can take to make sure, now that we know that this financial fraud has occurred, to make sure that the Florida Freedom Fund money isn't transferred over to Casey DeSantis if she does indeed run for governor of Florida?
01:56:27.000I don't think it has to be transferred.
01:56:28.000That PC can use this money how it sees fit for state campaigns and elections.
01:56:34.000So, I mean, they could all but live off of that if they like.
01:56:38.000Neither of them could ever run for office.
01:56:57.000Although I do think we should probably look into some more campaign finance reform about how PACs can move money around and what they can be used for.
01:57:07.000Absolutely. I definitely agree with that.
01:57:10.000You were cut off when I was asking you if there's anything else, any last-minute comments that you had for the viewers, and then, of course, I'll let you go.
01:57:17.000So feel free to share any last comments, thoughts, or anything that would assist you and the efforts of the Republican legislator as they're trying to hold Ron DeSantis accountable in these last two weeks of session.
01:57:30.000Yeah. So when folks are looking at this story and following along, there's no ulterior motive on my part.
01:57:40.000I'm terming out in a year and a half and I'm going home.
01:57:44.000I'm just a guy that was livid when I found out James Uthmeyer treated Medicaid money like his own personal piggy bank and then engaged and involved a ton of people in this conspiracy to commit money laundering and wire fraud.
01:57:56.000Unlike the other folks that you might hear commentating about this, I don't depend on a paycheck from Ron DeSantis or anybody else.
01:58:03.000I'm supposed to be representing my constituents to the best of my ability and making sure I'm a good steward of the taxpayer dollar.
01:58:10.000So when you look at the intent and the motivations of people and the circumstance, just keep that in mind.
01:58:18.000I'm going to be attacked by DeSantis constantly.
01:58:20.000They accuse me of being a stooge for big weed and a stooge for the plaintiff's bar and that I want to go run for some higher office.
01:58:27.000You will never see me on a ballot ever again.
01:58:30.000I'm going to go home and focus on raising my two daughters and being the best husband I possibly can.
01:58:37.000You're just not going to see that from anybody else involved in this story, anybody attacking me.
01:58:43.000They're motivated by different things.
01:59:24.000The system doesn't want people who actually want to call out corruption.
01:59:29.000You quickly learn when you're running for office or once you're a part of the system that they want people who they can control and they want people who they can get to turn a blind eye.
01:59:39.000It doesn't matter what position it is.
01:59:41.000They really honestly have Such disdain and contempt for people that are watchdogs for the people.
01:59:48.000Unlike Ron DeSantis, I do have a day job that's separate from my public office, and I do own my own house.
01:59:54.000So I'm looking forward to going back to the house that I already own and sticking with my day job.
01:59:59.000I am very much looking forward to looking back on my eight years, being proud of my service, and knowing I did right by my constituents until the very end.
02:00:09.000Well, I want to commend you, and I want to thank you for having the courage in a time and an era when so many people lacked the courage, especially in the Florida legislature, where so many people were very scared to challenge Ron DeSantis over this last election season.
02:01:24.000Because now that Randy Fine's going to be in Congress, who's going to be overseeing that investigation into whether or not Ron DeSantis' state office was being used for official campaign purposes?
02:01:34.000Because we all know that the people who work in his office have access to those Gator accounts that they use to troll everybody and attack everybody from all those anonymous...
02:01:44.000Anonymous accounts online where they're constantly disparaging Trump supporters and attacking people who expose the governor.
02:01:50.000Is there actually going to be an investigation or an audit of the governor's devices?
02:01:55.000Because I think that people would be shocked if they saw that...
02:02:00.000I personally have a theory that people who work in Governor DeSantis' personal gubernatorial office...
02:02:07.000We're using the same devices to campaign for him, which is completely illegal.
02:02:12.000And I think that an investigation would prove me right.
02:02:18.000I don't have any first-hand knowledge, but given how aggressive and how focused they were on Twitter constantly, all these public officials in the governor's office, I have no doubt.
02:02:42.000I'm a little loaded up with this health care budget that I've got to still negotiate for the state, and I'm still trying to figure out who all was involved in this conspiracy, but if I get some free time, I'll definitely take it up.
02:03:14.000Wonderful. Well, he gave us a lot of his time tonight, but I just felt that it was really important to have him on and I told him ahead of time that we were going to keep him for at least an hour tonight because...
02:03:25.000That's a lot to cover, and we were gaslit throughout this entire presidential election season.
02:03:30.000We were told that these things about Ron DeSantis and his staff were not true, and you heard from a lawmaker who himself was pressured and threatened by Ron DeSantis' team by having his appropriations cut for his constituents to endorse and support Ron DeSantis in the state of Florida for his presidential primary against President Trump in 2023-2024.
02:03:56.000All these claims about James Uthmeyer, Ron DeSantis' campaign manager, former chief of staff, and now the hand-selected AG, they're all true.
02:04:06.000So... Again, you saw how these Republican lawmakers and these desantoids, or the gatorheads as I like to call them, lied for over two years about their unethical behavior and conduct.
02:04:18.000And I'm just really hoping, like, God bless Representative Andrade because so many Republicans are such pussies in the Florida legislature and they don't want to hold anybody accountable.
02:04:28.000So, God bless them and hopefully we see some accountability.
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02:06:03.000I want to go to the chat, get your comments, thoughts about that interview.
02:06:08.000It's a long interview, but hey, people need to hear the truth about Ron DeSantis and his corruption.
02:06:12.000And unfortunately, there's not a lot of coverage about this on Fox News or Newsmax or any of these so-called right-wing networks.
02:06:21.000So people need to know the truth about how corrupt Ron DeSantis is because...
02:06:26.000He should not be able to leave office and have a solid legacy.
02:06:30.000This is a man who has abused his power to threaten people and to do very unethical things to get what he wants and to harm others who get in his way as governor throughout his time in Tallahassee, as we have exposed here.
02:07:48.000My sources tell me that when President Trump met with Casey DeSantis and Ron DeSantis at his golf club before the confirmation of Pete Hegseth, it was to establish Ron's interest in potentially becoming the Plan B option for Pete Hegseth if he didn't survive the nomination process.
02:08:09.000And so now Pete Hegseth has been confirmed.
02:08:17.000Now that Pete Hegseth has been confirmed, you see in the aftermath of SignalGate, there's all these calls to fire Pete Hegseth, unfortunately, instead of holding Michael Waltz accountable, even though it's the NSC and the NSA that are rotten.
02:08:30.000And you have officials at the DNI that are rotten.
02:08:34.000You have officials all throughout our intel agencies who are rotten, right?
02:08:37.000I described it last night as a Koch coup, right?
02:08:41.000A Koch brother coup, I said on X. There's still this shadow operation to push out Pete Hegseth and convince the replacement to be Ron DeSantis.
02:08:55.000And even Roger Stone confirmed today that his sources are telling him the same thing.
02:09:01.000So don't be surprised if you hear it or if they do fire Pete Hegseth.
02:09:24.000Another interesting story I wanted to talk about tonight, because again, it shows the lack of vetting in the Trump administration, and it goes to show you just like the level of chaos that exists in the Trump administration.
02:09:36.000As it pertains to political appointees, cabinet members, and some of these new hires defying the authority of President Trump and his administration is a story that I broke earlier tonight.
02:09:50.000Our guest about a week or so ago, Justin Goodman from the White Coat Waste Project, when he was discussing...
02:09:59.000All of the experiments with Fauci that they've exposed and all the animal testing.
02:10:05.000We had Justin and White Coat Waste on the program on Tax Day, if you recall, to talk about how $20 billion of your money every single year goes towards animal testing here in the United States, especially in programs funded by the NIH,
02:10:20.000which was previously run by Dr. Fauci.
02:10:23.000Who was removed and has since been replaced by Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.
02:10:40.000And I said that we were going to have a vetting crisis segment going forward here on Loomer Unleashed to talk about all the vetting crises.
02:10:49.000Dr. Jay Bhattacharya knows that Donald Trump doesn't want any more animal testing on mice for the purpose of doing transgender experiments.
02:10:58.000It recently went viral in videos, and I think we actually, we may have a video, I think we actually have a video of President Trump talking about this, maybe not, but there were videos online, you could find them yourself, of President Trump addressing the state of Congress about the transgender mice,
02:11:16.000Even Elon Musk said, wow, can you believe it?
02:11:19.000Like, we found out that they're doing studies on mice to see if they're transgender.
02:11:22.000And we were told that this funding was going to end.
02:11:26.000Well, even under the current Trump administration, as of last week, according to records from archives taken of the NIH website, last week,
02:11:42.000the grant For the transgender mice study out of the Indiana University was suspiciously renewed.
02:13:00.000If you're following along, here's my X account.
02:13:03.000You can see, there's a screenshot, had this put together, made a collage.
02:13:09.000Here's a statement made by President Trump after he gave his address to Congress, where he said, yes, Biden spent millions on transgender animal experiments because when he gave this address to Congress, he was mocked and people said, oh, what is he talking about?
02:13:22.000There's no such thing as transgender mice.
02:13:25.000I believe even Bill Maher was mocking this recently on an interview with Charlie Kirk.
02:13:28.000A lot of people were saying that this wasn't true.
02:13:32.000You can see here, it says NIH, and if you look at the screenshot of the report, it says gonadal hormones as mediators of sex and gender influences in asthma, right?
02:13:42.000But if you go and you look at the breakdown of the study, it clearly talks about making transgender mice, right?
02:13:52.000The budget end date says June 2025, budget start date July 2024.
02:13:58.000This was initiated under the Biden administration and it was supposed to end within the next two months under the Trump administration.
02:14:04.000We were actually told that the funding was already cut.
02:14:08.000But last week, they quietly went back into the NIH database under the Trump administration at the NIH, which is now led by Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a Trump appointee.
02:14:19.000And what does that say at the bottom right there?
02:14:21.000If you could zoom in, maybe you can't.
02:14:23.000If not, then you can just, you know, look at it yourself.
02:14:25.000But if you can't zoom in, oh, Cannon's going to zoom in for us, roll over.
02:14:49.000If you go back to the Lumard article that we released today on the website, you can scroll up to the title.
02:14:58.000NIH renews funding for cruel fauci beagle and trans mice experiments under new Trump administration.
02:15:05.000So it's not just the transgender mice experiment that they decided to renew, but also they decided to renew The abuse of beagles in laboratories.
02:15:18.000We'll go through the article just so that you can see what is happening.
02:15:20.000It's an abomination that this is already happening under the Trump administration after we were told that things like this were going to end.
02:15:28.000Here are photographs that have been obtained by the White Coast Waste Project of these experiments where they put these beagles inside these tents and they release flies so that...
02:15:40.000The dogs, without any type of pain medicine, can have their entire faces eaten alive by these flies, right?
02:15:47.000And we were told that this was inhumane and that these projects were going to be defunded under the new Trump administration.
02:16:02.000In advance of White Coast Waste's interview with Loomer Unleashed, Loomer broke a new White Coast Waste investigation exposing how the Biden-Harris National Institute of Health paid billionaire Moderna co-founder Robert Langer's new biotech company to torture beagles to test an experimental weight loss drug.
02:16:16.000The $322,000 grant was given to Langer's company in September of 2024, and it's still being funded until August 2025 under the new Trump administration.
02:16:26.000We talked about that extensively last week here on Loomer Unleashed.
02:16:31.000You know, rescind the funding and end this immediately, given the fact that Donald Trump is president and he has a new NIH director.
02:16:38.000And as I said, it begs the question, why is the Trump NIH still paying this Trump-hating mRNA pioneer and vaccine billionaire to abuse dogs?
02:16:46.000And the question also remains, why are they still conducting animal abuse experiments?
02:16:51.000In laboratories funded by the NIH here in the United States and abroad, including in the very own NIH headquarter office where Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, the NIH director, works himself every single day or at least every single week when he reports to work as the NIH director.
02:17:20.000As I say this now to you live on air under the Trump administration, to this day, right, we were promised this was going to end.
02:17:27.000They still have a lab that has been torturing beagles and deadly septic shock experiments for a quarter century, and they plan to continue their abuse of animals on taxpayer dime.
02:17:38.000White Coast Waste uncovered that NIH and the Pentagon are currently paying a laboratory in China to abuse 300 beagles per week in drug tests.
02:17:46.000So, again, I'm going to personally reach out to Pete Hegseth about this because I can't imagine that Pete Hegseth would be okay with this.
02:17:55.000And I wonder if he's even aware of this.
02:17:58.000And Dr. Bhattacharya, I know, is aware of this.
02:18:01.000He keeps on, you know, saying things like, oh, yeah, I really like the work that White Coat Waste does.
02:18:06.000But the question is, if Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is aware of this, why is he allowing for this to continue?
02:18:12.000So we need to start getting more aggressive on Dr. Jay Bhattacharya because he's essentially sanctioning.
02:18:21.000And we're currently paying in this joint partnership with the NIH and the Pentagon, paying a laboratory in China where my dear Mecca, my dog that I rescued from a Chinese meat market, they are so barbaric to animals in China.
02:18:41.000And mind you, she was emaciated when I adopted her.
02:18:44.000She was 7 pounds, which is a lot for a dog that size to be that emaciated.
02:18:49.000They treat animals horribly there and our own government is paying for this.
02:18:53.000And we discussed the previous work that they did on the last episode of Loomer Unleashed, but now it's been brought to my attention that they are now, even to this day, under the current Trump administration, renewing and still paying for these torture experiments on beagles.
02:19:09.000The contract was awarded under Biden-Harris and is still active until the end of May 2025 and could be extended if Bhattacharya doesn't take immediate action.
02:19:18.000So it's up for renewal and May is right around the corner and we are this close to having those Beagle experiments renewed for another term of funding under the current Trump administration if Dr. Bhattacharya and Donald Trump do not take action.
02:19:35.000Really disturbing to see that this is happening under the current Trump administration, especially given the fact that before the end of his first term, as you can see here, Trump canceled grants to some Chinese labs, but there are still 20 other Chinese animal testing laboratories that are still eligible for NIH funding.
02:19:55.000Also, as we discussed on the last episode of Loomer Unleashed, you have Dr. Nora Valcol, who is a longtime NIH bureaucrat.
02:20:03.000She serves as the director of the National Institute of Drug Abuse at NIH, which funded this Chinese dog lab and paid for abuses, for example, like injecting dogs with cocaine and fentanyl and also sex party drug tests on transgender animals.
02:20:17.000I don't really understand what that is, but these are like very degenerate experiments, experiments, if you want to call it that.
02:20:23.000It just sounds like, sounds like bestiality and animal abuse, if you ask me.
02:20:29.000And this lady has managed to keep her job.
02:20:32.000But hopefully she's held accountable as well.
02:20:35.000I know it may be shocking and unbelievable to all of you, but see it says China.
02:20:40.000Mice, dogs, cats, animal experiments, China, awarding office from the National Institute of Health.
02:20:46.000So if we truly are implementing tariffs on China and taking a strong approach on China under the current Trump administration, why is the current Trump administration allowing for our National Institute of Health?
02:20:58.000To use our taxpayer money to fund a lab in China that is torturing dogs, cats, and mice.
02:21:04.000It's not going to end until May 31st, 2025.
02:21:07.000And unless Dr. Bhattacharya or President Trump explicitly says otherwise, this contract is up for renewal.
02:21:19.000According to White Coat Waste, the NIH just renewed a $3 million project funded by Dr. Fauci at the University of Missouri, Columbia that infests hundreds of beagle puppies with ticks.
02:21:31.000In vaccine experiments, records obtained by White Coat Waste show that the puppies have had their fur shaved and capsules of full and hungry ticks glued.
02:21:40.000They actually glue these ticks to their bare skin after shaving them.
02:21:45.000And the dogs are intentionally denied pain relief.
02:21:49.000The grant was scheduled to end in May of 2025, and the Trump NIH just extended these animal abuse experiments until May of 2026.
02:21:57.000Now, do I think that Donald Trump is sitting in the Oval Office saying, oh, yep, let's go abuse dogs?
02:22:02.000No, I think that Donald Trump would be absolutely disgusted to learn that his administration is renewing the torture of these animals, which includes infesting animals.
02:22:11.000Infesting puppies with ticks and letting them die after getting septic shock.
02:22:16.000So if President Trump were to be alerted to this, I think that he would immediately call Dr. Jay Bhattacharya and tell him to end these horrific grants and also end animal testing.
02:22:25.000But again, this is the vetting crisis in the Trump administration.
02:22:29.000Why are they allowing Trump to give an address to Congress and mock the transgender mice?
02:22:58.000We'll be ending the flagrant waste of taxpayer dollars.
02:23:05.000Just listen to some of the appalling waste.
02:23:08.000We have already identified eight million dollars for making mice transgender This is real Yeah,
02:23:26.000this is real and For some reason, it's still happening under the current Trump administration, as I said, and they have decided to extend quietly, right, quietly change the termination date for the budget, and they have extended it for another year.
02:23:41.000So if Donald Trump is so appalled by transgender mice experiments, then I suggest he call over to his NIH director, who he appointed, and tell him to immediately end that contract with the Indiana University.
02:23:57.000This is from a screenshot of the documents that were uncovered by White Coat Waste.
02:24:03.000You can see here that in this experiment they're talking about infesting the dogs with ticks.
02:24:10.000They say that a dog is commonly used species to perform a pre-clinical pharmacokinetic study.
02:24:19.000Beagle dog is docile, cute, and easy to domesticate, so it has been the best choice of the different kinds of dogs based on the corresponding drug efficiency study.
02:24:28.000So they're actually admitting in these documents, it's so barbaric, that the reason why they want to choose beagles for these torture experiments is because beagles they have identified are the most docile and easy to domesticate,
02:24:45.000So they're trying to find dogs that are not going to fight back.
02:24:49.000When they are being physically abused and tortured in laboratories.
02:24:55.000The NIH also just extended a $3.1 million grant for transgender animal testing that White Coat Waste exposed last year.
02:25:04.000Again, President Trump called this out during his congressional address.
02:25:07.000And so the question is, you know, why, under the Trump administration, are they now trying to embarrass the president by funding transgender mice experiments?
02:25:48.000After April 30th, which is quickly approaching in the next eight days, we're going to be officially at the first 100 days of the Trump administration.
02:25:55.000And so I can confirm that Dr. J. Bhattacharya saw portions of my show from the last episode.
02:26:06.000I won't say how I found that out, but sources tell me that Dr. J. Bhattacharya saw...
02:26:12.000Segments from my last show in which I was questioning him and criticizing him for his leadership at NIH, asking why these animal experiments haven't ended.
02:26:40.000Dying and being tortured right now as I speak to you live on air right now in this laboratory at the NIH headquarters.
02:26:50.000And you have to ask yourself, like, what kind of monster is able to go to work and know that in the same building where they are hanging out, answering phones, doing work, eating lunch, hanging out with colleagues, that animals in a nearby room or facility are being tortured?
02:27:08.000I really hope that President Trump, as a pro-life president and as a pro-life leader, also sets a new standard.
02:27:19.000Instead of us trusting the science, the fake science, as we saw under Anthony Fauci, and instead of us having science weaponized against us to subjugate us and deprive us of our rights.
02:27:30.000Hopefully President Trump will take a more humane approach and will use what we know about science and encourage advancements in things like AI technology to replace inhumane practices like animal testing.
02:27:44.000Because, look, this is the kind of stuff that you would expect to see under the Biden administration, but we're 100 days into the Trump administration and people are aware of this.
02:27:53.000So as far as I'm concerned, there's literally no excuse after the end of these first 100 days for people to say, oh, well, you know, I had no idea that this was happening.
02:28:03.000I had no idea that dogs were being tortured because they 100% are aware of it.
02:28:07.000And, you know, I'm sitting back and I'm going to be judging people very strongly.
02:28:12.000And critically, depending on how they respond to this, because it's just an abomination that our own Pentagon is working with NIH to fund torture labs of beagles in China.
02:28:24.000So I am going to be speaking to Pete Hegseth, who I've known for many years personally about this matter, because this is an abomination.
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02:31:47.000Late last month, Laura Loomer, a prominent MAGA influencer who in 2017 called herself pro-white nationalism, invited Jacob Engels, a Proud Boys associate and writer for the conspiracy theory pushing blog.
02:31:59.000My god, it's like, how many times are they going to, like, use these adjectives to describe me?
02:32:05.000Gateway Pundit to her podcast to discuss a new app.
02:32:09.000Of course, I don't want to use the name of my podcast.
02:32:34.000This is really, really interesting because it's taking up so much off the backs of law enforcement and we're doing it as citizens and you have the opportunity to earn crypto for reporting and deporting illegals.
02:32:44.000Loomer, one of President Donald Trump's close confidence, was thrilled.
02:32:47.000If you're sick and tired of the illegal alien construction workers making a bunch of noise at the house next door to yours, you can actually call it in, she said.
02:32:58.000Get that cryptocurrency for reporting these individuals.
02:33:03.000It's unclear how functional Ice Raid US, created by a relatively unknown cryptocurrency entrepreneur named Jason Myers, really is, or to what degree it's actually coordinating with law enforcement.
02:33:14.000What is clear is that the Avs launch earned coverage across far-right media, including former Florida Representative Matt Gaetz' OAN show, and spoke to a growing hunger among the MAGA faithful cultivated by the Republican Party to become vigilantes, informants,
02:33:33.000Like, they're trying to act like we're just out there trying to go hunt immigrants down, when in reality we're talking about illegals.
02:33:43.000Hi, Arachic, an influential libs of TikTok creator whose viral propaganda has falsely labeled queer people groomers and pedophiles and has been linked to a wave of anti-LGBTQ harassment threats, recently turned her sights on immigrants.
02:33:56.000Oh, they're talking about, you know, oh, look at this.
02:34:09.000Talking about how William Horn, a history professor at the University of Maryland, told me the most worse in parallel, the closest thing to what we're seeing now, is the assaults on the Reconstruction state governments after the Civil War when the Ku Klux Klan, along with other white vigilante groups and lynch mobs,
02:34:25.000which is hilarious because Haya and I are both Jewish, by the way, just in case they wanted to leave that part out.
02:34:30.000So now we're like KKK members, according to MSNBC.
02:34:34.000Along with other vigilante groups and lynch mobs, partnered with law enforcement to target Black Southerners.
02:34:39.000So because we want to round up illegal aliens and promote the deportation of illegals, we're basically like the KKK rounding up and lynching Blacks.
02:34:49.000This guerrilla war helped end Reconstruction, the federal government abandoning its nascent experiment in multiracial democracy and ushering in decades of Jim Crow.
02:35:04.000Historically failing to take aggressive action against white vigilantism all but guarantees escalating white vigilantism in the creation of some form of an apartheid regime.
02:35:13.000So apparently I'm a white vigilante, you guys, because on my show a couple weeks ago, I decided to have a podcast in which I interviewed an individual, another investigative journalist, and we had a discussion about an app called Ice Raid.
02:35:30.000Anyway. And then they have a video of me.
02:35:48.000When Loomer and Angles were discussing the Ice Rate app, Loomer took a moment to recount an extremely exciting encounter she recently had.
02:35:58.000I actually ended up catching up with Tom Homan, our border czar, in the airport here in Palm Beach, Florida, and I congratulated him on his deportation orders and his success thus far as the border czar, Loomer said, queuing up a video of the interaction.
02:36:11.000Can we expect to see some more jihadist students rounded up soon and deported?
02:36:15.000The video shows Lumer asking Homan referring to terrifying incidents of mass ICE agents disappearing college students.
02:36:41.000Students that want to kill Jews and Christians.
02:36:44.000I mean, these people are just so hyperbolic, out of control.
02:36:51.000Disappearing college students off the streets for their support of pro-Palestinian causes.
02:36:55.000No, I'm pretty sure that it's because they were actually caught supporting Hamas, but hey, revisionist history, right?
02:37:01.000Including in the case of Tufts University doctoral student Rumaysa Osterk.
02:37:07.000For the apparent transgression of writing an op-ed in the school newspaper.
02:37:11.000No, they always try to make it sound like everything is just critical of Israel.
02:37:14.000I have no problem with people criticizing Israel, okay?
02:37:17.000But if you're here on a visa and you're openly calling for support of terrorist organizations that are recognized by our own State Department as being designated Islamic terrorist organizations, including Hamas and Hezbollah, and we have a lot of video footage of students waving Hamas and Hezbollah flags and,
02:37:33.000you know, praising Al-Quds and Soleimani and Nasrallah on college campuses.
02:37:40.000Okay, yeah, you're going to be deported and you should have your green card or your visa taken away from you because you are supporting jihad on American soil.
02:38:17.000If that's what it means to want secure borders in my country and to support mass deportations, then I guess you're going to call me like, you know, the new chief Klansman.
02:39:46.000Yeah, last time I checked, Jewish people weren't allowed in the KKK, so maybe they have changed their application standards, or maybe they have changed their terms of membership.
02:39:58.000But according to MSNBC, I'm now a Klansman.
02:40:02.000But hey, if I'm gonna be like the top Klansman, according to Christopher Matthias over at MSNBC, I might as well be a Grand Wizard.
02:40:42.000And then tomorrow, watch, it's gonna be like, Trump ally Laura Loomer says that she has aspirations to become a KKK grand wizard.
02:40:54.000ally laura loomer said that she wanted to call her good friend yay west to borrow his kkk klansman outfit
02:41:02.000Like, I was joking the other day on Loomer Unleashed that, because I used the term uppity black to describe John Hope Bryant, right, after he was invited to the Treasury by Scott Bessent, and I was like, watch.
02:41:15.000Shout out to the Media Matters Clipper, who is watching this episode right now, who's going to do an article about how I called John Hope Bryan, an uppity black man, and how I basically said Josh Shapiro had nobody to blame but himself for the fires.
02:41:32.000And I swear to God, I think we can even get this pulled up right now.
02:41:35.000If you go to Google and you type in Laura Loomer Media Matters, they literally wrote those two articles.
02:41:40.000It's almost like they were watching live.
02:41:42.000I swear they must have like a designated media clipper.
02:42:31.000We'll have to see how long it takes them to write an article saying Trump ally Laura Loomer says that she has aspirations to become the next Grand Wizard of the KKK.
02:42:42.000You just have to mock these people because they're so retarded.
02:42:44.000You know, like, obviously I'm not a member of the KKK.
02:42:47.000Obviously I would never even be allowed to join the KKK because I'm Jewish, but hey.
02:42:54.000Whatever. If MSNBC wants to entertain the idea that I'm a white vigilante, then I suppose I can entertain their, their, their, their, I don't know what to call it.
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