Loomer Unleashed - EP120: Have The Epstein Files Been Destroyed?

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00:20:22.000 journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.

00:20:25.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes. 0.95

00:20:31.000 She chained herself to Twitter.

00:20:32.000 She chained herself.

00:21:24.000 Welcome to episode 120 of Loomer Unleashed.

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00:22:20.000 So much to talk about tonight.

00:22:23.000 It's been a pretty busy week already.

00:22:26.000 It's only Tuesday.

00:22:29.000 Momentarily, I'm going to be joined by our friend over at White Coat Waste Project.

00:22:33.000 You know, Justin Goodman, the senior vice president who we had on the show several times over the last month.

00:22:39.000 Some exciting developments took place this weekend.

00:22:42.000 Here on Loomer Unleashed, we exclusively reported the fact that Fauci's torture labs, where they were torturing innocent beagles and other animals, but mostly beagles.

00:22:54.000 The funding for this was going to continue into the Trump administration.

00:22:58.000 Everybody had known about the Fauci experiments and the torture of beagles because it was a really big issue during the presidential campaign season.

00:23:06.000 And Fauci, of course, was put on blast for torturing these innocent animals, an investigation which was exclusively uncovered by the White Coat Waste Project, a fantastic organization, nonprofit, that is...

00:23:19.000 Uncovering a lot of the abuses of animals in these taxpayer-funded labs.

00:23:23.000 And we've been talking a lot about how $20 billion each year, especially your taxpayer money.

00:23:31.000 We actually did this episode on Tax Day, if I recall.

00:23:34.000 So that was on April 15th.

00:23:36.000 We had Justin Goodman on Tax Day to show you how much of your tax money was going to be going towards funding animal torture experiments.

00:23:44.000 And since that episode aired...

00:23:47.000 The clips went extremely viral on social media, and it prompted responses internally.

00:23:54.000 I know this from speaking to sources of mine over at NIH.

00:23:58.000 It prompted internal responses from Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who is the newly Trump-appointed NIH director.

00:24:05.000 It caused a frenzy inside the Trump administration and the White House when they figured out that under their administration...

00:24:13.000 Animals were still being abused.

00:24:15.000 Not exactly good optics for the Trump administration.

00:24:18.000 And then...

00:24:19.000 Over the weekend, Elon Musk actually reposted and replied to my tweet and said that he was going to be investigating and that Doge was going to be investigating under his watch and that he was going to put an end to the animal torture that was still happening in our country.

00:24:35.000 And so I'm going to go ahead and play this clip for you.

00:24:38.000 This was Dr. Jay Bhattacharya on Fox News over the weekend announcing that this Beagle Lab that was still...

00:24:46.000 Doing these horrific, abusive experiments on beagles inside the NIH headquarter office, which is Dr. Jay Bhattacharya's actual headquarter office in Maryland, Bethesda, Maryland, where NIH headquarters campus is located.

00:25:01.000 They, of course, were very flustered with the fact that I pushed this information out there, and they didn't like the fact that I was having white coat waste on my show and bringing awareness to the fact that we were gaslit.

00:25:15.000 We were told that Biden and Fauci were so evil for allowing this to happen, and yet...

00:25:20.000 Officials within the Trump administration have been allowing this to happen.

00:25:24.000 I mean, we are already past 100 days of the administration and they're still torturing dogs.

00:25:29.000 And the torture still hasn't ended.

00:25:31.000 We're going to be talking to Justin Goodman about that tonight.

00:25:34.000 But I am very happy to report that thanks to the viral nature of the reporting here on Loomer Unleashed, these exclusive receipts that were brought to me by the great folks over at White Coat Waste Project, NIH Beagle Lab on NIH's campus has officially been shut down.

00:25:54.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip.

00:25:56.000 Is it hard right now to change the culture there?

00:26:00.000 Unfortunately, yes.

00:26:01.000 I mean, it's been interesting to watch.

00:26:04.000 I'll do some policy change, and people try to find the worst possible spin for it.

00:26:12.000 I'll give you a couple of examples.

00:26:14.000 So, for instance, I put out a policy to make sure that when we have animals in research, that we look at alternatives.

00:26:23.000 You know, it's very easy, for instance, to cure Alzheimer's in mice, but those things don't translate to humans.

00:26:29.000 We put forward a policy to replace animals in research with other technological advances, AI and other tools that actually translate better to human health.

00:26:40.000 And we got rid of all the Beagle experiments on the NIH campus.

00:26:47.000 But it's sort of like people just don't trust the NIH anymore, and I can understand why.

00:26:53.000 During the pandemic, leaned into lockdowns, school closures, all these things.

00:26:58.000 And so I think there's still a level of distrust that the American people have for the NIH.

00:27:01.000 I'm hoping, under President Trump, we can reverse.

00:27:04.000 Has PETA reached out to you and told you you're the latest hero?

00:27:08.000 Like, I mean, they must be ecstatic with you right now.

00:27:10.000 They did.

00:27:11.000 I got flowers from PETA, you know, people for the ethical treatment of animals.

00:27:15.000 Normally, I think NIH directors tend to get physical threats, but they sent me flowers.

00:27:24.000 So he's talking about how PETA sent him flowers and how excited he was that PETA sent him flowers.

00:27:30.000 Well, PETA should not really be taking credit or responsibility for these experiments given the fact that this investigation was done by...

00:27:42.000 Good folks over at White Coat Waste.

00:27:44.000 And Justin Goodman is going to be joining me in the next 10 minutes to discuss all of this.

00:27:48.000 But I got into it with PETA over the weekend because, look, you know, I think it's really important that proper attribution is given and proper credit is attributed to the original source of content.

00:28:01.000 And it was white coat waste that actually uncovered all of these horrific septic shock experiments that were being funded by our taxpayer money via NIH. 0.55

00:28:11.000 And, you know, you could see I got into it with PETA.

00:28:15.000 You can scroll down and see what they had tweeted.

00:28:18.000 Scroll down a little bit more.

00:28:19.000 They said, victory.

00:28:21.000 PETA exposed the failed sepsis experiments on animals and even sued NIH under President Biden to end them.

00:28:27.000 Thank you, NIH Director Jay.

00:28:31.000 And for the shout-out at the end.

00:28:33.000 Well, he wasn't giving them a shout-out saying that they were responsible for this.

00:28:36.000 He said, yeah, PETA sent me flowers because Rachel Campos Duffy was making a joke about how, oh, you know, the radical leftists over at PETA, they generally, you know, hate conservatives, and PETA has falsely accused President Trump in the past.

00:28:51.000 Look this up yourself and see.

00:28:53.000 PETA has falsely accused President Trump of not doing anything to end animal cruelty and to not do anything to combat animal testing, even though in 2019 it was President Donald Trump and we have the receipts to prove this.

00:29:06.000 If you want to go do a fact check right now, live on air.

00:29:08.000 In 2019, it was Donald Trump who actually signed an executive order making it a felony.

00:29:15.000 If you engaged in cruelty towards animals.

00:29:18.000 So President Trump has always been focused on helping animals and ending animal cruelty.

00:29:24.000 But again, this is a vetting crisis, right?

00:29:26.000 Like this is what I'm talking about every single day when I talk about the vetting crisis.

00:29:30.000 It's the fact that, you know, President Trump may be opposed to animal cruelty, right?

00:29:36.000 You see that President Trump signs animal cruelty bill into law.

00:29:39.000 Open that one.

00:29:41.000 Making it a federal felony.

00:29:43.000 November 25th, 2019.

00:29:45.000 The bill passed unanimously in the Senate earlier this month.

00:29:49.000 So, President Trump has always been against animal cruelty, but...

00:29:54.000 You have people in his administration that don't alert him to these things.

00:29:58.000 They gatekeep.

00:29:59.000 You see that even CNN over the weekend wrote an article about how weird it is that I still don't have a press pass.

00:30:05.000 You can look that up yourself and we'll get that article up on the screen.

00:30:09.000 Why do I bring this up?

00:30:10.000 Because you have all these yahoos who get invited into the White House press room. 1.00

00:30:16.000 People that are more like influencers.

00:30:18.000 You know, I'm a real journalist.

00:30:19.000 I break really big stories, and my reporting has been quite consequential.

00:30:23.000 You might have, you know, heard about it over the last couple weeks.

00:30:25.000 You know, a few people got fired at the NSC and the NSA.

00:30:28.000 I don't know.

00:30:29.000 You may have heard about it.

00:30:30.000 A federal prosecutor got fired out in California.

00:30:33.000 I don't know.

00:30:34.000 You may have heard about it. 0.92

00:30:35.000 So, you know, I'm not just posting selfies of myself with my tits hanging out like some of these other women that get invited to the White House press room. 0.62

00:30:43.000 Real story, by the way, in case anyone wants to challenge me, got the cleavage pics and the receipts to prove that. 0.99

00:30:49.000 You have these, like, Jew-obsessed social media influencers who have been invited to the White House, people who, like, you know, accuse Jewish people of having, like, pedophile tunnels underneath the sewage system. 0.96

00:31:02.000 I mean, seriously, you know. 0.93

00:31:03.000 People like that have been invited to the White House press room.

00:31:06.000 Yeah, Jessica Reed Krause, who literally wore a shirt that said she was in favor of freeing Ghislaine Maxwell, who's serving 20 years in prison in Florida for human trafficking and serving as Jeffrey Epstein's associate, known pedophile associate.

00:31:23.000 Those are the kinds of people that are being allowed into the White House and given press access into the White House.

00:31:30.000 I mean, it's almost like state media in a sense.

00:31:32.000 I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you had a new media briefing the other day and you actually had a reporter ask the press secretary how they should be covering the Trump administration.

00:31:41.000 Like, why are we asking the White House press secretary how we should be covering the Trump administration?

00:31:47.000 You wouldn't be asking the Biden administration how you should be covering the Biden administration.

00:31:51.000 It's very like...

00:31:52.000 It's very reminiscent of state media, some of these new media briefings.

00:31:56.000 And again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but as the CNN article highlighted, they think that the reason why I have not been allowed to have access into the press briefing room yet and have not been given a press pass is because I'm not a sycophant and I actually would be holding other Republicans accountable and asking questions about stories that, who knows, maybe the White House or maybe conservatives themselves don't want to talk about because perhaps it's embarrassing.

00:32:22.000 I don't know.

00:32:23.000 I don't really know what the reason is.

00:32:24.000 I don't want to put words into their mouth, but it is quite interesting how this story only went viral because I made it go viral on my show and talking about it on my website with my exclusive reports with the investigative receipts provided to me by White Coat Waste, and yet it took them almost a month to take action on this, and now everybody wants applause for the administration for ending these.

00:32:50.000 This Beagle lab.

00:32:52.000 And yeah, it's great.

00:32:54.000 It's really great that they ended the Beagle lab testing, but why did it take them so long?

00:32:59.000 I mean, maybe if they actually invited real journalists into the press room, and it's funny because I get called a conspiracy theorist, but they actually invited real conspiracy theorists into the White House press briefing room but called them journalists.

00:33:10.000 So there's people on there that have TikToks and they don't even post any news stories.

00:33:14.000 They just post.

00:33:17.000 Social media clips.

00:33:18.000 They don't break stories.

00:33:20.000 They're not journalists, right?

00:33:21.000 These are people that talk about celebrity gossip on TikTok.

00:33:25.000 And I don't really understand how that warrants a press badge.

00:33:30.000 I don't know.

00:33:30.000 I don't control the press room, but it's a little strange.

00:33:34.000 But I was kind of surprised this week to actually see a real article written by CNN because it was pretty accurate.

00:33:40.000 It's pretty accurate.

00:33:41.000 It's one of the only articles thus far that has been accurate.

00:33:46.000 In terms of their reporting about the situation, you can scroll down while we wait for Justin to join.

00:33:52.000 He just texted me.

00:33:53.000 Let's see.

00:33:54.000 Let's see.

00:33:56.000 Thank you.

00:34:01.000 Yeah, let him know.

00:34:03.000 It's going to be connecting momentarily.

00:34:05.000 Bye.

00:34:05.000 you Thank you.

00:34:10.000 Let's go through this article.

00:34:12.000 Laura Loomer can get President Donald Trump on the phone.

00:34:15.000 But she can't get a seat in his briefing room.

00:34:17.000 As the White House opens its doors to a new class of media personalities, online commentators, podcasters, web video hosts, and partisan influencers, one of the most prominent figures in the pro-Trump digital ecosystem remains on the outside looking in.

00:34:31.000 Bloomer, a far-right provocateur with a loyal online following, has a direct line to the president and a proven record of influencing his personnel decisions.

00:34:39.000 Yet, her requests for press credentials from Trump's White House have gone unanswered.

00:34:44.000 You can scroll down.

00:34:45.000 Let's continue reading.

00:34:47.000 Loomer has a theory why.

00:34:49.000 I do think there's a fear that I may ask questions about the loyalties of people in the White House, Loomer told CNN, and they fear me having a national and global microphone to ask those questions.

00:34:59.000 She wants to know why Hunter Biden, the son of the former president, still had Secret Service protection after Trump took office.

00:35:05.000 He revoked it in March, days after Loomer posted pictures that allegedly showed a detail joining Biden in South Africa.

00:35:11.000 Why the White House legal team isn't pushing to disqualify judges she sees as conflicted.

00:35:16.000 And most of all, why certain staffers with what she claims are questionable allegiances have been hired in the first place.

00:35:23.000 I would hold people accountable, Loomer said, not to be malicious toward anyone in the administration, but to support the America First agenda.

00:35:30.000 The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

00:35:32.000 Yeah, of course they didn't respond to a request for comment because, well, why would they?

00:35:36.000 Why do they want to admit that there's gatekeeping going on and that, you know, it's a form of censorship, really?

00:35:44.000 We're told that the new media seat is going to be available to independent journalists and that people like me can apply and get in and yet every single, you know, social media influencer, again, I'm not an influencer, I'm a real journalist.

00:35:57.000 My reports have literally led to Hunter Biden getting his Secret Service revoked and Ashley Biden having her Secret Service revoked, saving millions of dollars a year in taxpayer money for the American people.

00:36:09.000 It's a lot more than a lot of these other yahoos who get invited. 1.00

00:36:12.000 I mean, oh, what do they want me to do?

00:36:13.000 Dress up in a little skimpy dress and wave a fake Epstein binder around and push out propaganda, like state-run propaganda for Pam Blondie? 0.99

00:36:21.000 Is that what it's going to take for me to get a White House press pass? 0.99

00:36:24.000 Do I need to sit there and blow smoke up Pam Blondie's asshole and tell her how amazing she is and how I think she's so brave for lying to the American people about... 0.99

00:36:36.000 The Epstein files, which have now gone missing. 0.99

00:36:39.000 Yeah, the Epstein files have gone missing.

00:36:42.000 Absolutely.

00:36:43.000 Because we were told that, oh, the Epstein files are on my desk.

00:36:52.000 The Epstein files are on my desk.

00:36:55.000 The Epstein files have been delivered in a truck.

00:36:59.000 The Epstein files are going to be released momentarily.

00:37:05.000 The Epstein files have been given to all of these social media influencers, right?

00:37:11.000 That's just another example of just how poorly run these media briefings are.

00:37:20.000 They're just being poorly run.

00:37:22.000 I hate to say it. 0.94

00:37:22.000 I'm not trying to talk shit about the White House press room and people are going to say, oh, well, that's not a way to get a White House press pass. 0.94

00:37:29.000 You really honestly... 0.97

00:37:30.000 Just look at the receipts.

00:37:32.000 Look at what CNN said.

00:37:33.000 My reporting led to Hunter Biden having his Secret Service revoked.

00:37:37.000 It led to NSC officials and the NSA director literally being fired.

00:37:41.000 And it literally just led to them shutting down a taxpayer-funded laboratory where they were torching beagles in my collaboration with my next guest, Justin Goodman of White Coat Waste.

00:37:52.000 And yet, I have to wait.

00:37:54.000 I have to wait a month or sometimes two months for the White House, these geniuses who work for Donald Trump, How many animals could have been taken out of these abusive situations months prior or

00:38:24.000 weeks earlier if it weren't for gatekeeping in the White House?

00:38:28.000 Because of professional jealousy or whatever reason it is.

00:38:32.000 God only knows what the reason is, right? 0.96

00:38:35.000 But it's kind of ridiculous, in my opinion.

00:38:40.000 So joining me now to discuss this development and how... 0.60

00:38:47.000 There's continued animal abuse projects, believe it or not.

00:38:50.000 I mean, even though there's this big hoopla and big celebration now in the Trump administration and they're celebrating the fact that all of these beagles have been freed, there are still...

00:39:01.000 Animals being tortured, believe it or not, in U.S. taxpayer-funded laboratories, both here in the United States and also in China.

00:39:09.000 And a lot of this is being run through the NIH and also the Department of Defense.

00:39:14.000 And we're going to talk about it tonight because it's important that we talk about it and that we don't get gaslit by Republicans who are more concerned with their reputations than they are about the facts.

00:39:23.000 So joining me now to discuss is White Coat Way Senior Vice President and my friend Justin Goodman.

00:39:29.000 Thanks so much, Justin.

00:39:31.000 Laura, I'm thrilled to be here to take a victory lap for Saving Beagles, making animal protection history by shutting down the last dog lab inside the NIH headquarters, something we've been working on for nine years, nearly a decade.

00:39:47.000 I've been working with my team at White Coat Waste Project, our president, Anthony Bellotti, to find, expose, and defund this exact laboratory.

00:39:54.000 We filed Freedom Information Act lawsuits.

00:39:57.000 Worked with Congress to introduce legislation, countless fact-finding letters pressing the NIH, fought the Biden administration for access to documents.

00:40:06.000 And now, I know you just broke some news.

00:40:08.000 We're learning that just a few weeks ago, NIH was defending and doubling down on these dog experiments.

00:40:15.000 And now you've released new records that we just got through FOIA today, showing that this project was actually approved to continue through 2026 and kill two dozen beagles.

00:40:26.000 And that ain't going to happen anymore, thanks to you.

00:40:28.000 So we are incredibly grateful, thrilled.

00:40:30.000 But as you're saying, there's more work to be done.

00:40:33.000 Yeah, I mean, it's incredible.

00:40:34.000 It's incredible progress and incredible work.

00:40:37.000 And what I find to be really disingenuous, and I think it's really concerning, and we have to talk about this, unfortunately, because it's really central to this work, is the fact that organizations that are not responsible for these investigations are now taking credit and fundraising off of your work, which is unethical, PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

00:40:58.000 And it's really funny.

00:41:00.000 I'm not going to show the email tonight, but PETA actually personally emailed me.

00:41:05.000 One of their vice presidents actually emailed me the other day to try to suggest that you were just a disgruntled former employee and that, you know.

00:41:16.000 Why co-waste didn't actually break this story?

00:41:19.000 It's actually PETA's work and you have the facts wrong because the person that's complaining about this is a former disgruntled employee.

00:41:27.000 I wanted to give you a chance to respond to this because as somebody who often has my work stolen by people and people love taking credit for my investigations and then you know there's like this constant You know, cycle of abusive gaslighting where people call you jealous or they say you're disgruntled.

00:41:45.000 I wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about this investigation and how long you have been fighting to shut these labs down because...

00:41:53.000 For people that watch my show, they know that we had you on weeks ago on Tax Day.

00:41:57.000 I didn't see any other conservatives talking about this.

00:42:00.000 We've been sharing these clips almost every single week for the last month, talking about how the DOD is still funding experiments where they shove marbles and condoms up cats' buttholes.

00:42:10.000 And I don't really understand the purpose of these experiments, but it's being funded by our taxpayer dollars via DOD contracts still.

00:42:18.000 Being extended under the current Trump administration.

00:42:21.000 And I didn't see Pete Hegseth, and this isn't an attack on Pete, of course, but I didn't see Pete Hegseth in the press conference the other day in the Oval Office.

00:42:29.000 I didn't see Jay Bhattacharya mentioning this the other day in the Oval Office.

00:42:33.000 And so I wanted to give you an opportunity tonight to talk about the attacks on white coat waste, but also talk about the gaslighting by our government as it stands, because there are still... 0.54

00:42:45.000 A ton of extended animal testing experiments that are being extended by the current Trump administration, and it's not good enough to simply have a press conference in the Oval Office and shut down one beagle lab.

00:42:58.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:43:00.000 This is just the beginning, hopefully, and it shouldn't have taken 100 days to get here.

00:43:06.000 We had talked.

00:43:07.000 To folks in the administration and been talking to folks before they even came into power in January and letting them know our list of priorities and easy cuts they can make to promote Trump's agenda of cutting waste fraud and abuse at the NIH, cutting foreign aid.

00:43:23.000 And it took over 100 days to get this first big win.

00:43:27.000 So, yeah, we've...

00:43:28.000 We really did hope to see more swift and decisive action from the administration.

00:43:33.000 And one thing, again, great that they closed the dog lab, but before doing that, the first announcement they made about animal testing was something that was very clearly inspired by PETA and other animal rights groups, which is simply creating a new office that just creates more bureaucracy and more spending with the, and I know you commented on this in a few different places.

00:43:54.000 Laura, that they are creating more bureaucracy, more spending, creating a new office that will aim to possibly reduce the use of animals, but no promises that they were going to make any cuts.

00:44:05.000 And that's not enough.

00:44:08.000 That's not what the MAGA agenda is.

00:44:10.000 That's not what the President Trump and RFK promised at NIH.

00:44:13.000 They promised they were going to slash and burn, remove Fauci's legacy and fingerprints from the NIH and the federal government.

00:44:20.000 And we're seeing the opposite happening.

00:44:22.000 We're seeing certainly we have this great accomplishment with the NIH Dog Lab.

00:44:27.000 We're thrilled to see that.

00:44:28.000 But the NIH is still funding hundreds of dogs and cat labs across the country outside of its headquarters that are still receiving taxpayer dollars that are still being renewed.

00:44:38.000 The NIH just renewed a grant to the University of Missouri where they are infesting beagle puppies, 398 beagle puppies with And then letting them suffer in maximum pain experiments where they don't get pain relief.

00:44:53.000 That was a project that started under Fauci, was approved under Fauci, was renewed under Fauci, and now has been renewed under the Trump administration at the NIH.

00:45:02.000 So we're certainly alarmed by that.

00:45:04.000 And I want to get back.

00:45:05.000 I'll talk about some of the other stuff you said in a second, but I want to get back to the point you made about things needing to move quickly and what the consequences are of them not moving quickly.

00:45:13.000 There is a contract you were just talking about, an active contract.

00:45:17.000 DoD and NIH funded to torture 300 beagles a week in a lab in China to test experimental drugs.

00:45:26.000 300 beagles a week.

00:45:28.000 And this contract is scheduled to run for a few more weeks.

00:45:31.000 It's possibly getting renewed.

00:45:33.000 Contracts are renewed all the time.

00:45:34.000 So every single day, every single week we delay in cutting this grant, 300 beagles are being tortured because there is not the political will at the NIH to make What seem to be easy decisions.

00:45:49.000 Cutting off dog torture in China should be something you can do in your sleep without having to check with anybody.

00:45:55.000 And everyone's going to be thrilled about that.

00:45:57.000 The left, the right, the center, the president, RFK.

00:46:00.000 Everyone's going to be happy with cutting dog torture in China.

00:46:02.000 So I'm not sure why it's so difficult for some of these cuts to be made.

00:46:06.000 So we have the Fauci dog labs.

00:46:08.000 We have the DOD dog lab in China.

00:46:11.000 We have the cat experiments.

00:46:13.000 Ten million dollars the DOD has spent and just renewed.

00:46:16.000 to do those constipation and erectile dysfunction experiments on cats at the University of Pittsburgh.

00:46:22.000 The DOD is funding a dozen dog and cat labs across the country.

00:46:25.000 We have a list from the DOD of those exact projects.

00:46:29.000 We've sent that list to DOGE months ago, and we haven't seen any cuts yet at the DOD.

00:46:35.000 Fortunately, Elon Musk, in response to your tweets last week and your reporting last week about the renewal of the cat experiments at DOD.

00:46:45.000 And the septic shock experiments, too.

00:46:47.000 So I will say, to Elon's credit, I mean, who knows if he's working on trying to get these other experiments cut and defunded.

00:46:57.000 But to Elon Musk's credit, I will say that the tweet that he replied to was the tweet in which we were talking about the Beagles receiving septic shock experiments in the NIH headquarter laboratory at the NIH campus.

00:47:13.000 Just two days after Elon replied and said he was going to investigate and put an end to animal tortures when Dr. Jay Bhattacharya quietly announced on a Sunday afternoon on Fox News that the lab was being shut down and then they quietly mentioned it inside the Oval Office when they were giving their press conference having a meeting with RFK Jr. and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya talking about The executive order that President Trump just signed the other day, eliminating gain-of-function research in China.

00:47:43.000 But again, I'm grateful that President Trump, and I want to get your comments on this, is ending gain-of-function, but we also need to be checking the receipts on this, because just because he's ending gain-of-function funding for labs doesn't mean that...

00:47:59.000 It's ending the animal abuse and the torture and the use of beagles that are shipped from the United States of America, breeders paid for by NIH, which is our taxpayer money, and then shipped to China for experimentation.

00:48:14.000 They may be ending the gain-of-function experiments on the dogs, but it doesn't mean that they're ending all the experiments on the dogs.

00:48:23.000 How do we get accountability and how do we monitor these tests going forward to make sure that it's not just an issue of semantics and that they really are making steps towards ending?

00:48:37.000 Last week as well, later on in the week, and of course this was after the scheduled programming here on Loomer Unleashed, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya released a press conference in which he said that the NIH was going to aim to reduce animal testing but wasn't exactly committed to completely reducing or eliminating animal testing.

00:48:57.000 And so I want to get your thoughts on that because, look, I'm a straight shooter.

00:49:02.000 It kind of just seems like we're getting fed crumbs right now.

00:49:07.000 To cover up for the fact that these even more atrocious animal experiments are still taking place with our taxpayer money.

00:49:15.000 Yeah, and we're seeing, you know, something like Monkey Island in South Carolina in Congresswoman Nancy Mason's district.

00:49:22.000 We've been working with her since 2021 to shut this down in Ireland.

00:49:25.000 Fauci helped establish where 3,300 monkeys are bred and then 5 to 600 of them are...

00:49:32.000 Snatched off the island and shipped to Fauci's virus labs all across the country for deadly experiments with things like Ebola and Nipah and Lhasa and completely incurable viruses, including exotic viruses from all around the world that would never occur in America.

00:49:48.000 We're bringing the viruses here and then we're infecting monkeys with them.

00:49:51.000 I thought shutting down Monkey Island would be a slam dunk under Trump's NIH.

00:49:56.000 Unfortunately...

00:49:57.000 Monkey Island just got renewed for another year at the cost of $4.1 million to taxpayers.

00:50:03.000 So it is frustrating.

00:50:04.000 And I think we need less press releases and more action.

00:50:08.000 And the action we want to see, the action we were promised, was slash and burn at the NIH.

00:50:14.000 And the Trump administration has proposed a 40% cut to the NIH's budget.

00:50:19.000 I doubt Congress is going to go along with that.

00:50:22.000 But I think we might see some major cuts there.

00:50:26.000 But something we can do without Congress, without an executive order, is Dr. Bhattacharya sitting down and just making a list of animal tests that are going to be cut effective immediately.

00:50:37.000 They can also do things like they did in the last administration that we've been advocating for and recommending.

00:50:42.000 They did make some decisions that impacted animal testing under the last administration, including: Eliminating funding for human fetal tissue experiments.

00:50:52.000 That's something we exposed during the last administration and during Biden.

00:50:55.000 Fauci was responsible for most of the funding where they take parts of aborted fetuses and implant them into lab animals.

00:51:01.000 Ninety percent of the human fetal tissue research involves animal experimentation.

00:51:06.000 And they completely shut it down under the Trump administration.

00:51:08.000 It was essentially a press release from the HHS saying effective today, we don't fund this stuff anymore.

00:51:14.000 And we can see that that NIH and HHS could be doing that tonight.

00:51:18.000 For dog and cat experiments, funding for labs in China, Iran, and other adversarial nations, all foreign funding.

00:51:26.000 I mean, these are things that if there was the political will to do so, they would be very easy.

00:51:31.000 What we're alarmed with is that it seems like people who are not on board with the agenda of really cleaning up waste, fraud, and abuse at the NIH are still in power there and calling the shots.

00:51:43.000 And there's no better example than a Fauci Acolyte who worked at NIH, who in Fauci's division, worked and was involved in gain of function, was involved in the COVID cover-up of what happened in Wuhan, has just been promoted to take over Fauci's position as the head of the National Institute of Allergy to Infectious Diseases.

00:52:04.000 How do we end up in a situation under Trump?

00:52:06.000 We gotta name some names.

00:52:07.000 We gotta name these people. 0.87

00:52:08.000 Let's name them and shame them. 0.78

00:52:09.000 Jeffrey Taub.

00:52:11.000 Jeffrey Taubenberger at NIH, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, just promoted, I think he's been there 19 years, just promoted as the acting director.

00:52:21.000 What's his name?

00:52:21.000 Jeffrey Taubenberger.

00:52:23.000 Jeffrey Taubenberger.

00:52:25.000 Wow.

00:52:25.000 And he's the acting director now of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Fauci's division.

00:52:30.000 He's been involved in gain-of-function research.

00:52:33.000 He actually instructed a colleague to dig up a dead body.

00:52:38.000 And collect the 1918 flu virus from that body and then bring it into the lab to use and gain-of-function experiments.

00:52:47.000 This is well-established.

00:52:48.000 This has been reported before.

00:52:50.000 And then they put this guy, Fauci's colleague, now in charge of Fauci's former division.

00:52:55.000 So, of course, that's why Monkey Island gets renewed.

00:52:58.000 That's why tick infestation experiments on dogs and puppies get renewed.

00:53:02.000 That's how COVID infection experiments on cats at Cornell University.

00:53:06.000 It just makes you wonder, why do we have Fauci?

00:53:08.000 And I want to remind everybody that Fauci was pardoned, okay?

00:53:11.000 He received a preemptive pardon by Joe Biden on the way out.

00:53:14.000 And so why do you need a pardon if you're not a criminal?

00:53:18.000 Well, because...

00:53:19.000 You are basically saying that you have committed criminal activity or you believe that Fauci committed criminal activity and thus needs a pardon.

00:53:28.000 And so I just want to remind everybody of that because there are still Fauci holdovers who are working at the NIH.

00:53:34.000 And again, this all goes back to the vetting crisis and the gatekeeping and the Trump admin.

00:53:40.000 Why are people from White Coat Waste not, you know, in the Oval Office right now, a part of the conversation if it's their investigation that got these Beagle Labs shut down?

00:53:49.000 Like, shouldn't the people that have actually done the investigations be able to provide reports or research to the President of the United States to let them know, hey, these are the problem people that are causing issues and they're probably going to try to subvert your administration?

00:54:03.000 And that's exactly what we're seeing now.

00:54:05.000 Donald Trump said he didn't want any more animal cruelty.

00:54:08.000 And what do you see?

00:54:09.000 You see people at NIH quietly trying to renew these agreements.

00:54:12.000 We're going to get these screenshots pulled up right now, too.

00:54:15.000 This is a new report that was just published momentarily before this episode went live tonight because I wanted to save it for the show.

00:54:25.000 Scroll up to the very top.

00:54:27.000 Exclusive NIH's Beagle Lab and other taxpayer-funded animal labs in China were set to continue being funded under Trump's administration.

00:54:34.000 So, you know, PETA and other groups are trying to say, oh, you know, this was in the works.

00:54:39.000 Don't worry.

00:54:39.000 You know, we got this all shut down.

00:54:41.000 No, it was honestly only because of the pressure that Justin and I put on the Trump administration over these last few weeks that they decided to actually end this lab.

00:54:53.000 You can go back to the article.

00:54:54.000 I want to show you the actual dated FOIA.

00:54:57.000 So here's the emails that were sent.

00:54:59.000 Thank you for your email to the National Institutes of Health Congressional Relations Office concerning NIH intramural dog experiments on sepsis.

00:55:08.000 You can see the date was Tuesday, April 15th, 2025.

00:55:11.000 This was the same day that Justin came on my program, Tax Day.

00:55:15.000 It is important to note that NIH takes the welfare of animals used in research very seriously.

00:55:21.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:55:23.000 Please find below responses to your specific inquiries.

00:55:26.000 This was a FOIA request.

00:55:29.000 And then the bot, yeah, on the second page of that letter, they go on to, yeah.

00:55:34.000 Keep on scrolling down.

00:55:36.000 Here's the letter right here.

00:55:37.000 National Institute of Health, animal study proposal, sepsis-induced cardiomyopathy.

00:55:43.000 So they were trying to induce these beagles with sepsis and literally see how long they could survive with sepsis of watching them.

00:55:52.000 You know, basically suffer and die from an infection.

00:55:56.000 That's what they're testing to see how long a dog can survive with sepsis.

00:56:00.000 They're not giving them any pain medicine.

00:56:01.000 They're just torturing these animals. 0.92

00:56:03.000 And you can see that the approval date for the original study was approved on August 25th of 2023.

00:56:12.000 And the expiration date was supposed to be...

00:56:16.000 August 25th, 2026.

00:56:18.000 The expiration date was extended a year because, as he said, it was supposed to expire, believe, this year, right?

00:56:25.000 And so you see here that this was sent, right?

00:56:28.000 This was clearly sent via this FOIA request in April of this year, right?

00:56:33.000 So under the Trump administration.

00:56:35.000 And that date would fall underneath the Trump administration.

00:56:38.000 August 25th of 2026.

00:56:40.000 And you can see, what does it say here?

00:56:42.000 Clinical Center.

00:56:43.000 Principal investigator, Stephen Solomon, PhD.

00:56:47.000 Center for Critical Care Medicine Department.

00:56:51.000 Let's see.

00:56:52.000 Functional and structural.

00:56:54.000 So the project title was Functional and Structural Changes Early in Sepsis-Induced Cardiomyopathy.

00:57:00.000 And then you can scroll down on the document.

00:57:06.000 Species canine, arrival criteria, stalk or strain, beagle.

00:57:11.000 Approved source, the holding location, redacted by agreement, redacted by agreement, estimated number of animals 24, but we know from these requests that the location was, correct me if I'm wrong, it was the NIH campus.

00:57:27.000 It's the NIH campus in their beagle torture lab that they said that They weren't going to be doing any tests under the Trump administration, but you can clearly see from that document that was received in this FOIA request on April 15, 2025, that they had every intention of doing this.

00:57:44.000 And so this was only shut down because we raised so much of a fuss about it.

00:57:52.000 Obviously, you carried out your investigation, and then it went viral on my show, and then we got Elon Musk to comment on it.

00:58:00.000 I think that PETA and others should be ashamed of themselves for trying to take credit for your work.

00:58:04.000 It was White Coat Waste that submitted that FOIA request and got those documents that did the legwork to obtain this information.

00:58:11.000 And that's the part that Jay Bhattacharya and the administration doesn't want to tell everybody when they're taking their little PR spectacle right now, trying to pat themselves on the back for shutting it down.

00:58:24.000 When in reality, they had every intention of extending the torture of these beagles.

00:58:30.000 Yeah, Laura, that email that you were pointing to that you just released for the first time, we've never released that to anybody.

00:58:36.000 It's the first time it's coming out.

00:58:38.000 That email was sent to Congress April 15th, like you said, the same day that I came on the show.

00:58:44.000 And it made very clear that the NIH was defending those experiments, that they were currently active, and that they were undergoing review for continuation.

00:58:55.000 That was less than a month ago.

00:58:57.000 Then we get these documents through FOIA.

00:58:59.000 That second document through FOIA we just got today through a Freedom of Information Act request showing that the project was not only active, but it was scheduled to continue for another year and a half.

00:59:09.000 And it might have had we not worked together to blow this thing up and make the story go viral and get it on the agenda of the president, who I'm sure made someone in the White House call the NIH and ask them what the hell is going on.

00:59:24.000 And they took...

00:59:25.000 Quick action to get Jay on TV to cancel it.

00:59:29.000 But we have been doing this investigation for nine years.

00:59:33.000 We have records from over 2,100 dogs have been killed in this lab at least.

00:59:38.000 We have records through Freedom of Information Act lawsuits against the NIH for over 300 of these dogs.

00:59:45.000 We have been tracking every single purchase of dogs for the last nine years, working with Congress on legislation.

00:59:52.000 Doing everything to get this in front of Congress, get it on the agenda and get the NIH to take action.

00:59:58.000 This is something we've been talking about with people who are now in the administration for six months, that this is the first thing they should do.

01:00:05.000 And it took, as we know, we were well past for the first hundred days and there still had been no action on this until me, you and Elon got together and made it.

01:00:14.000 So no one could ignore it and they had to take action.

01:00:17.000 And there are other groups now trying to take credit because maybe they put out a fresh release 10 years ago mentioning in passing something related to dog testing at NIH.

01:00:27.000 But no one was actually investigating and spending time, money and resources.

01:00:32.000 And that's the most galling part of this is that we're a small nonprofit.

01:00:35.000 PETA's budget is over 10 times ours.

01:00:38.000 They have probably over $75 million.

01:00:40.000 $75 million is what their 2023 tax records show.

01:00:45.000 And when I pointed this out and I said, shame on you as an organization.

01:00:49.000 And also, too, I think it's important for people to know that PETA allegedly has their own kill shelter.

01:00:54.000 So they're trying to act like they're so concerned about the welfare of these dogs.

01:00:59.000 These beagles, and I saw them put out some tweets asking about, oh, we're going to be monitoring where these beagles go now that these labs are being shut down.

01:01:08.000 Well, what are you going to be monitoring?

01:01:10.000 Because the last time I checked, PETA said that they're against pet ownership.

01:01:14.000 I mean, they have made some very controversial claims in the past.

01:01:17.000 There are people who have worked for PETA that have suggested...

01:01:21.000 That pet ownership is terrible and that animals should instead be euthanized instead of being owned by humans because it's not natural for pets to be owned and to be domesticated.

01:01:35.000 If that's their mindset, what are they so concerned about as it relates to where these beagles are going to go after they get rescued?

01:01:45.000 The whole point would be to find loving homes for these beagles who don't even know what it's like to step foot on grass or to be in somebody's bed or to snuggle up in a bed with an owner or to play ball or to play fetch because some of these dogs who, you know, we're gonna...

01:02:03.000 I don't want to give too much away, but we're going to have some exclusive video and an exclusive report on Thursday's episode of Loomer Unleashed to unveil here as it relates to the rescue of some of these beagles who are now being rescued from laboratories.

01:02:18.000 So stay tuned.

01:02:19.000 This is going to be never before seen footage and photos exclusively released here on Loomer Unleashed on Thursday.

01:02:26.000 But you're going to see for yourself that some of these dogs...

01:02:29.000 You know, are 10, 11, 12 years old and they don't know what it's like to be outside because they've lived in a laboratory since they were a puppy.

01:02:38.000 So it's interesting to me when you look at the gaslighting because when you look at the history of groups like PETA, I don't really feel like euthanizing an animal to prevent it from being adopted or being in a domesticated household as a pet is more ethical than Than euthanizing it, right?

01:03:00.000 They think that euthanizing animals is more ethical than allowing loving pet owners to have them as pets.

01:03:09.000 Yeah, you're absolutely right, Laura.

01:03:11.000 And I did, you know, getting back to the point you made it very early on, I worked at PETA almost a decade ago.

01:03:17.000 I ran animal testing campaigns there.

01:03:20.000 And number one, I've been on a bunch of shows recently talking about, and I think we might have talked about it, Shree Thanedar, Congressman Shree Thanedar.

01:03:28.000 Who ran an animal testing laboratory in New Jersey who owned it and it got shut down and he left over 175 dogs and monkeys to die.

01:03:38.000 I was working at PETA back then.

01:03:40.000 It was 2010.

01:03:41.000 And the head vet from there called me frantic and saying that they left these animals for dead and I'm trying to figure out a way to get them out of here.

01:03:49.000 Dogs obviously into homes and the monkeys into sanctuaries.

01:03:53.000 I went to the leadership at PETA and I said, "We've got to get involved in this.

01:03:56.000 We've got to help save these animals." And they said, "No." And now, because there's press, because Fox News is talking about it, because there's tons of news stories about our victory, that's why now all of a sudden they're interested in rescuing animals from these laboratories, because White Coat got a victory and PETA hate's being left out.

01:04:15.000 And that's what's motivating me.

01:04:18.000 Now they're aggressively pushing out more social media.

01:04:21.000 I wasn't following PETA until a few days ago, and then I just decided to follow their social media account when I got into it with them.

01:04:29.000 And then, of course, their vice president and one of their media directors found my personal email.

01:04:34.000 And they emailed me and they were saying that my post was incorrect and trying to suggest that I was wrong and that you didn't have anything to do with exposing any of this and that white coat waste didn't play a role in this and that, oh, Justin's just a disgruntled former employee.

01:04:52.000 But we showed the receipts.

01:04:53.000 Actually, if we go back to this...

01:04:55.000 This tweet that I posted in response to PETA, you can clearly see the congressional letterhead and you can clearly see the news reports that say that this was uncovered by them.

01:05:05.000 So let's click on my tweet first, the screenshot.

01:05:08.000 This is from April 24th because we talked about this on multiple episodes of Loomer Unleashed over the last month.

01:05:16.000 It says the NIH is still funding beagle torture even after we were told it would stop.

01:05:21.000 New records uncovered by White Coat Waste reveal NIH extended funding for septic shock experiments where beagles are pumped with bacteria and slowly killed without pain relief inside, and the rest of it continues to say, inside the NIH headquarter office, which is what they just shut down.

01:05:37.000 And then Elon Musk, go back to the tweet, said on May 2nd, will investigate.

01:05:42.000 And then literally...

01:05:44.000 Two days later is when Dr. Jay Bhattacharya went on Fox News.

01:05:49.000 Two days later on May 4th, I believe.

01:05:52.000 I believe it was Sunday, May 4th.

01:05:54.000 And he said that they were shutting down this lab.

01:05:57.000 And so let's click on these screenshots here.

01:06:01.000 Yeah, I just want to point out these are years old.

01:06:04.000 Purchase records and research documents obtained by White Coat and shared with 8 News showing Envigo has sold about 60 dogs over the last few years to be used in septic shock experiments at NIH.

01:06:14.000 So you have ABC confirming that this was obtained by White Coat Waste.

01:06:19.000 Let's go to the other screen grab as well.

01:06:21.000 Here we go.

01:06:22.000 The Washington Post, not exactly conservative media.

01:06:26.000 Should dogs be guinea pigs in government research?

01:06:28.000 A bipartisan group says no.

01:06:30.000 White coat waste was mostly unable to find information on the breeds of dogs used in federal labs, although it said most dogs used in research are beagles, citing NIH materials.

01:06:38.000 In one NIH study, the group found researchers induced septic shock in beagles with pneumonia, sometimes causing hemorrhaging and lung problems to compare transfusions of fresh and old blood.

01:06:48.000 Even Washington Post is saying that the group, okay, they're talking about white coat waste found.

01:06:53.000 Next, let's go to the next screenshot.

01:06:56.000 January 19th, 2024.

01:06:59.000 Okay, this was sent to Dear Director Bertagnoli at the NIH.

01:07:05.000 Okay, that was under Fauci, of course.

01:07:09.000 Given the National Institutes of Health is the single largest funder of painful research on dogs.

01:07:14.000 We are riding to urge the NIH to support alternatives to harmful animal testing.

01:07:19.000 The 2022 cancellation of completely unnecessary drug tests on dogs being planned by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases underscored the wastefulness.

01:07:31.000 Taxpayer-funded dog research and raised serious questions about NIH's oversight of grants and contracts.

01:07:37.000 Since then, other troubling NIH-funded dog and cat experiments have come to light through investigations by the nonprofit, nonpartisan White Coat Waste Project.

01:07:46.000 Okay, so nowhere in there does it say PETA.

01:07:49.000 Okay, this is an official congressional letter.

01:07:51.000 This is on congressional letterhead.

01:07:53.000 It says Congress of the United States House of Representatives.

01:07:56.000 This is an official government document on official government's letterhead.

01:08:01.000 And it clearly is saying that White Coat Waste discovered this.

01:08:05.000 And so perhaps I will publish the email that was sent to me by PETA.

01:08:09.000 I mean, they were polite.

01:08:10.000 They were friendly.

01:08:11.000 I will say that...

01:08:12.000 You know, they thanked me for my work, sticking up for animals, and they were cordial.

01:08:17.000 They were respectful to me, but, you know, I just found it to be a little strange that they were trying to suggest that you were disgruntled when you're simply just...

01:08:25.000 You know, pointing out facts.

01:08:26.000 And I think it's important for people to know that they're not in support of pet ownership.

01:08:31.000 Because not only is White Coat Waste trying to expose these labs and get these labs shut down, but you also partner with an organization called Kindness Ranch that rescues these beagles from laboratories where they would otherwise be euthanized.

01:08:46.000 Because if the beagles are...

01:08:49.000 Not to be used anymore, generally speaking, unless there's non-profits that make partnerships and confidentiality agreements with these private labs or taxpayer-funded labs.

01:08:59.000 They kill all the dogs.

01:09:00.000 And it's animal rescue groups that go inside and arrange for some of these dogs to be saved and then adopted out.

01:09:07.000 So I don't know how much you can speak to this, but why did PETA tell you when you worked for PETA that They could not get involved in trying to save these dogs and adopt them out when this horrific case involving Democrat Congressman Rep.

01:09:25.000 Sharif Anadar, the same scammer, and I call him a scammer because he's been sued multiple times for alleged fraud, had his laboratory shut down.

01:09:36.000 And this, of course, made news last week because he's the same guy who's trying to impeach President Trump.

01:09:40.000 Why did they say they couldn't get involved in saving these dogs?

01:09:46.000 Because in a lot of cases PETA believes that animals are better off dead.

01:09:51.000 And they do run a kill shelter.

01:09:53.000 Instead of having owners?

01:09:56.000 Yeah, or being in a situation that PETA doesn't approve of.

01:10:01.000 Yeah.

01:10:02.000 So it's frustrating.

01:10:04.000 Here's the good news, all right?

01:10:06.000 I don't want to give PETA any more press.

01:10:07.000 There's nothing they love more than hearing their name.

01:10:11.000 Yeah, I just wanted to show the contrast.

01:10:16.000 Because when people look at groups that are actually saving animals, you're not just getting the lab shut down.

01:10:22.000 Like, they can claim that they got this lab shut down, but they're not advocating for these dogs to be adopted out.

01:10:27.000 They don't seem to really care if these dogs get euthanized.

01:10:30.000 You're actually partnering with a group that is trying to go and rescue these dogs from the laboratories, in addition to getting them shut down.

01:10:38.000 That's right.

01:10:39.000 Under the first Trump administration, we can talk about this on Thursday too, but under the first Trump administration, we got four different federal agencies to enact lab animal retirement policies.

01:10:49.000 Working with members of Congress, we got the NIH, the FDA.

01:10:55.000 The Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs to enact lab animal retirement policies, allowing animals, for the first time in history, there was never a policy like this before, and during Trump 45, we got four different federal agencies to enact such policy, and it saved dozens and dozens of animals from those laboratories.

01:11:11.000 We've also been working to pass federal legislation with Congresswoman Nancy Mace since back then to standardize lab animal retirement.

01:11:20.000 Across the entire federal government to make sure adoption is an option for any animal in any government laboratory.

01:11:27.000 And we do work with the nonprofit Kindness Ranch out in Wyoming who, no questions asked, shows up at laboratories at all expenses paid for transport, medical care, rehabilitation, rehoming, adoption, everything.

01:11:42.000 Kindness Ranch pays the bill and they go and pick up animals and laboratories across the country.

01:11:49.000 Bring them back.

01:11:50.000 They have a big staff that rehabilitates these dogs, cats, other animals to make sure they're going to make good pets and then finds loving homes for them.

01:11:57.000 So there can be a great second chance and happy ending for a lot of these animals.

01:12:02.000 And that's the best case scenario when we shut these labs down inside the government or other government funded labs.

01:12:09.000 That's the best case scenario that not only can we cut the funding and put the animal experimenters out of business, but also save as many animals as possible.

01:12:16.000 And we've been aggressively pursuing this.

01:12:18.000 At NIH, at EPA, and other agencies that are talking about making cuts to their animal testing funding, that we want to be involved and can provide the resources at no expense to taxpayers to make sure these animals have loving homes.

01:12:34.000 You know, taxpayers bought the animals and we want them, the government, to give them back.

01:12:38.000 It's as simple as that.

01:12:38.000 They should have, you know, these animals have a right to come and live with people after they've been abused by these mad scientists.

01:12:44.000 It's, you know, and I think most people support that.

01:12:47.000 It's funny that you mentioned the PETA thing, and I know I said we shouldn't talk about them anymore.

01:12:51.000 But because we have been investigating and tracking the NIH Septic Shock Lab so closely, we know that the last time this laboratory had any dogs was June of last year.

01:13:04.000 There aren't dogs there now and PETA is saying we're waiting to hear what's happening with the dogs there and we're willing and able to help.

01:13:10.000 There aren't any dogs as far as we know in the NIH laboratory and if they were actually involved in the investigation they would know that.

01:13:16.000 We've got the receipts.

01:13:17.000 The last time the NIH bought dogs was April.

01:13:19.000 The last time there was a dog in their lab was in June and they confirmed to us in an email in January that there were no dogs there because the project was...

01:13:30.000 But it's important to note that they were planning on bringing 24 beagles under the Trump administration into this lab until we made these reports go viral here on Loomer Unleashed with your intrepid investigation.

01:13:45.000 I want to move on to another article that I released on Friday.

01:13:52.000 Exclusive Trump's Department of Defense extends $10 million contract for cruel cat constipation experiments.

01:13:59.000 And so this is what I was talking about earlier in that, yeah, it's great that they have decided to shut down this laboratory where they were planning on torturing another 24 beagles under the current Trump administration.

01:14:12.000 It's great that they have decided to close that laboratory, but that's one laboratory.

01:14:16.000 I mean, we are funding labs here in the United States, but also abroad in China.

01:14:21.000 And NIH is...

01:14:22.000 This is one agency.

01:14:23.000 Another agency in our country, a department that is engaged in animal abuse, is the Department of Defense.

01:14:29.000 Let's go ahead and get this article up again.

01:14:34.000 The latest accountability failure in ending cruel and outdated animal testing comes from Trump's Department of Defense.

01:14:41.000 As Laura Loomer and White Coat Waste recently reported, the DOD is still funding a Biden-era contract to test experimental drugs on 300 beagles a week in China, which is a serious threat to national security and animal welfare.

01:14:57.000 Again, we talked about the threat with national security, so we released this on Friday, and then just days later, President Trump, of course, announced that they were ending gain-of-function.

01:15:07.000 Of course, I think this has a lot to do with white coat waste, because white coat waste was the organization talking about how these animals were being used in gain-of-function tests, and we know that...

01:15:19.000 Through gain of function and the horrors of the COVID lockdowns, that this is a national security threat because, of course, the COVID gain of function that took place in labs in Wuhan, China, that were funded by Fauci and the NIH, and our taxpayer money resulted in the death of 1.2 million American citizens.

01:15:39.000 Let's continue.

01:15:40.000 Trump's Food and Drug Administration Commissioner, Dr. Marty...

01:15:44.000 Macri, who opposes dog testing, just stated that this kind of animal testing for human drugs is outdated and inefficient.

01:15:50.000 You can scroll down.

01:15:51.000 You can see it says China there.

01:15:53.000 We're not making this up.

01:15:54.000 National Institute of Health.

01:15:56.000 The contract end date was supposed to be May 31st, 2025.

01:16:00.000 Okay, clearly says that.

01:16:02.000 White Coat Waste has learned that the DOD's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency recently extended a $10 million contract to the University of Pittsburgh for inhumane experiments on cats.

01:16:14.000 In these absurd DOD-funded animal tests, cats have marbles and balloons shoved into their rectums and are then electroshocked for constipation and erectile dysfunction studies.

01:16:25.000 We have a video of this, actually.

01:16:27.000 Perhaps we can play the video momentarily.

01:16:29.000 But this cat was actually abused and killed by the United States Department of Defense.

01:16:35.000 So we're going to play that momentarily.

01:16:37.000 Let's continue reading the article.

01:16:39.000 But really horrific stuff here.

01:16:41.000 Have you heard back from anybody at the Department of Defense or NIH about this?

01:16:46.000 Because I know that I sent it to the Department of Defense and I was told that they were looking into it.

01:16:51.000 That's what the Department of Defense told me.

01:16:53.000 I have sent it to them now three times on three separate occasions and have asked them if there's any update on whether or not this funding is being removed.

01:17:01.000 I have not heard back for transparency reasons.

01:17:03.000 I'm just disclosing that here publicly for everybody to know.

01:17:08.000 Again, it's just another example of a lack of transparency, in my opinion, which is unacceptable from this administration.

01:17:17.000 Yeah, and at the DOD, this problem is very easily to isolate and eliminate.

01:17:24.000 There are about a dozen.

01:17:26.000 Dog and cat labs, at least according to the DOD in a letter they sent to Congress last year to Congresswoman Young Kim from California.

01:17:33.000 They indicated that there was about a dozen dog and cat labs that they were funding.

01:17:37.000 Some of those have timed out, so they're not being funded anymore.

01:17:41.000 But we know the cat constipation experiments just got renewed for another year.

01:17:46.000 We know that the contract for torturing 300 beagles a week in China is still active and set to run at least through the end of the month, maybe longer so.

01:17:56.000 Secretary Pete, if you're listening, it looks like we have three weeks.

01:18:00.000 We could save 900 beagles if you cut the contract early.

01:18:03.000 We'd love to see that.

01:18:05.000 But it's an easy problem to isolate and eliminate at the DOD versus the NIH, which is funding 1,500 labs around the world.

01:18:13.000 Much more complicated there.

01:18:15.000 It's not an excuse.

01:18:16.000 It's just the reality that the DOD can really easily do something.

01:18:19.000 Actually, the DOD since the 80s has had a policy that prohibits some dog and cat experimentation, but not all of it.

01:18:26.000 There's a loophole that allows them to be used in these type of experiments.

01:18:29.000 So all they have to do is cut the funding for a dozen projects, close this loophole, and the DOD can make history.

01:18:35.000 By eliminating the use of dogs and cats completely.

01:18:38.000 It's something we already did at the Department of Veterans Affairs under the first Trump administration.

01:18:42.000 We ended all dog and cat testing at the Department of Veterans Affairs.

01:18:45.000 And now these other agencies need to follow suit.

01:18:48.000 The sky didn't fall.

01:18:49.000 We saved a lot of animals.

01:18:50.000 We saved a lot of tax dollars on unnecessary and wasteful experiments.

01:18:53.000 This is an easy problem for the DOD to fix that will gain them so much love from the public.

01:19:00.000 And the press, people across the political spectrum are going to be happy about this.

01:19:04.000 No one wants to see cats tortured by having balloons and marbles shoved up their butts and being electro-shocked, or puppies being poisoned in drug tests both in the United States and China.

01:19:14.000 But that's what's happening on Trump's watch right now.

01:19:17.000 Well, and especially right now with our trade war with China, especially with the tariff wars right now with China, you would think that the Trump administration would be all about cutting funding for these laboratories in China.

01:19:28.000 But this is an example of what I mean about semantics, right, and manipulation and gaslighting.

01:19:33.000 We were told that the beagle labs were being shut down.

01:19:35.000 A lot of people are going to think, oh, great, that means that no more beagles are going to be tortured by the United States of America, when in reality we're actually sending over 300 beagles to China.

01:19:46.000 We're in Chinese laboratories.

01:19:48.000 They're actually going to be abusing these animals in experiments paid for by our taxpayer dollars funded by the NIH. 0.55

01:19:56.000 And so the NIH can do this victory lap all they want in the Oval Office and on Fox News, but it's quite dishonest given the fact that, as we just showed through these receipts that you uncovered, and you can see these all on lumered.com, lumered.com in that article that's up on my website.

01:20:13.000 The extension date was clearly extended by another year into the Trump administration.

01:20:17.000 It's supposed to expire this month.

01:20:19.000 It's being extended.

01:20:20.000 I want to go ahead and play this video, Justin, because so many people are probably like...

01:20:26.000 Oh my God, this has to be fake.

01:20:28.000 Shoving balloons and shoving marbles up cats' buttholes, right? 0.90

01:20:32.000 And you're saying balloons, but from my understanding, it was actually condoms in some instances too.

01:20:38.000 So balloons, condoms, and marbles.

01:20:40.000 So really sick, twisted experiments being conducted on innocent animals by the Department of Defense. 0.99

01:20:47.000 I don't really understand how shoving a condom up a cat's butthole... 0.98

01:20:51.000 is going to improve our defense here in the United States of America. 0.97

01:20:55.000 But I'm going to play the video that was compiled by White Coat Waste. 0.62

01:20:59.000 It is disturbing.

01:21:00.000 Viewer discretion is advised.

01:21:02.000 This is a video of a cat being tortured, but it's real and people need to know what's happening.

01:21:08.000 This is a video of a cat being tortured, but it's real and people need to know what's happening.

01:21:36.000 This is a video of a cat being tortured, but it's real and people need to know what's happening.

01:22:06.000 Thank you. 0.97

01:22:09.000 Really sick.

01:22:09.000 I honestly am just, it's so disturbing.

01:22:13.000 I can't even wrap my head around why an experiment like that would be needed.

01:22:18.000 I just don't understand what the purpose of that.

01:22:24.000 I mean, they say trust the science. 0.60

01:22:25.000 I am just really failing to understand, and I think a lot of people in the comments too are failing to understand what we benefit from shoving marbles and condoms up a cat's butthole.

01:22:37.000 Well, this is the frustrating part about this.

01:22:40.000 I mean, there's a lot of things, obviously, that are aggravating and frustrating and outright angering about the situation, including these experiments.

01:22:48.000 Secretary Kennedy, Marnie McCurry, the FDA Commissioner, Dr. McCurry, Jay Bhattacharya, NIH, and obviously the three of those guys who run the public health agencies have vocally, and we've talked about this, supported White Coat.

01:23:06.000 But also we're on the record opposing dog and cat experiments.

01:23:09.000 So this should be a very easy lift for them.

01:23:12.000 They've been talking the talk for years, saying that this stuff is wasteful and necessary.

01:23:16.000 It needs to stop.

01:23:18.000 But it hasn't happened yet.

01:23:20.000 It seems like it'd be a day one thing.

01:23:21.000 Like, what's more American than saving cats and dogs from government abuse?

01:23:26.000 That's like, you know...

01:23:28.000 The best news for liberty lovers, animal lovers everywhere, would love to hear, pet owners would love to hear that the government wasn't going to torture or pay for the torture of dogs and cats in laboratories anymore, yet that's what's happening.

01:23:39.000 I can't imagine that President Trump knows that this is still going on because he is going to go down in history, rightfully so, as the president who did more to end animal testing than any other.

01:23:50.000 And you'd think that he would want this to be ended and that he would, as soon as he knows about it, I would imagine he will direct The people who work for him to take swift and decisive action to do something.

01:24:02.000 Because, unfortunately, they haven't done it on their own yet.

01:24:04.000 And we're how many months in now to the new administration.

01:24:08.000 And these, again, these are first, if they're not day one, they're first 100 days items.

01:24:13.000 And that was part of our plan that we rolled out with Roger Stone, whose show I was on the other day.

01:24:18.000 And he said very nice things about you, Laura.

01:24:22.000 And, you know, I've been talking to him and other people.

01:24:24.000 And we were pressuring the Trump administration very early on.

01:24:29.000 To prioritize cutting dog and cat labs.

01:24:31.000 It was number one on our priority list.

01:24:33.000 But you said Roger said not very nice things about me on the show?

01:24:36.000 No, I said he said very nice things about you.

01:24:38.000 Oh, it's hard to tell with Roger because, you know, one day he loves me and then the next day it's like, I love Roger.

01:24:44.000 I mean, he's one of my best friends and a mentor to me.

01:24:47.000 But, you know, depending on what side of the bed he wakes up on, one day he loves what I'm doing and then the next day I'm a disappointment to him.

01:24:55.000 No, I did this radio show the other day and he said he was a big fan.

01:25:00.000 We've been working with him since 2016.

01:25:03.000 He helped us get Trump to end the USDA's largest cat lab, the largest cat lab in the government.

01:25:10.000 Roger's a big animal fan.

01:25:12.000 He's a big animal advocate.

01:25:13.000 He's got a lot of animals.

01:25:17.000 So we've been talking for months in preparation for the new administration.

01:25:20.000 What do we want to prioritize?

01:25:22.000 Number one was cutting dog and cat labs.

01:25:24.000 Number two is cutting labs in China.

01:25:26.000 And neither of those things has been done yet.

01:25:30.000 Yet PETA and other organizations are literally sending out press releases saying they're popping champagne over a press release that Jay Bhattacharya put out that doesn't promise to cut any animal testing.

01:25:42.000 So the agencies are getting away with murder.

01:25:46.000 And getting all this praise from these organizations who have their standards are set so low that they're willing to accept that.

01:25:54.000 But we know that's not what the president wants.

01:25:56.000 That's not what the administration promised.

01:25:58.000 So we want them to do better.

01:26:00.000 We want them to keep their promises and cut wasteful spending and clean up the NIH.

01:26:03.000 My God, removing Fauci's fingerprints from the government should be priority number one for everybody in the public health agencies, everybody in the HHS.

01:26:12.000 I think Secretary Kennedy feels strongly about that, but I'm not sure about anyone else.

01:26:16.000 Yeah, and look, the buck stops with Donald Trump, but I will say, I don't think that Donald Trump is even aware of all of this stuff.

01:26:23.000 It's up to his agency heads to be monitoring all of this, and the fact that...

01:26:28.000 They're not bringing this information to him is alarming because obviously Donald Trump does not support animal abuse.

01:26:34.000 He made it a big point of his first administration to make animal cruelty a federal felony in 2019.

01:26:41.000 And even back then, PETA was falsely accusing Donald Trump of not doing anything to end animal cruelty.

01:26:47.000 And all of these leftist organizations were saying that Donald Trump doesn't care about the environment.

01:26:52.000 He doesn't care about animals.

01:26:54.000 He doesn't care about stuff like that.

01:26:56.000 When in reality, you know, President Trump has done a lot.

01:26:59.000 I'd say that he's done more than any other president to really raise awareness about animal rights issues.

01:27:04.000 He spoke out about all of the whales that were going crazy from the windmills, right, when he was on Joe Rogan.

01:27:11.000 And everybody was laughing when he said he wanted to be a whale psychiatrist, right? 0.51

01:27:14.000 But people were like, oh, wow, I had no idea that this is a problem with the mistreatment of whales.

01:27:20.000 And he brought attention to animal cruelty when his administration...

01:27:25.000 He made animal cruelty a felony.

01:27:27.000 Now he's shutting down these Beagle Labs.

01:27:30.000 So Donald Trump is a man of action.

01:27:32.000 He just has to have the information given to him.

01:27:34.000 And it's, you know, when people gatekeep or when they, you know, Jay Bhattacharya was aware of these Beagle Labs, I will just say, you know, I know through conversations that many people had with Jay Bhattacharya that he was made aware of these extending contract dates.

01:27:52.000 long before he ever went on Fox News and said that they were shutting it down.

01:27:59.000 And so he could have shut it down, but he made the choice not to.

01:28:02.000 And he was aware of this for a very, Yeah, Laura, every day that there's inaction, Puppies and kittens are dying.

01:28:25.000 Animals are dying.

01:28:25.000 We're suffering.

01:28:26.000 And we're wasting a lot of money.

01:28:28.000 That's what's happening.

01:28:30.000 Speaking to the issue of Trump being great on animal issues and animal testing issues, the first time we knew that and saw that in our work was April 2020, when we exposed the Wuhan lab funding almost exactly five years ago.

01:28:43.000 A couple days after we broke that story with Matt Gaetz, Trump was on TV saying he's going to cut it.

01:28:50.000 And he did.

01:28:52.000 Fast forward five years.

01:28:53.000 Earlier this year, we did our big expose on creating transgender lab animals and torturing them in experiments. 1.00

01:29:00.000 $250 million wasted by NIH, the Department of Veterans Affairs, National Science Foundation, creating transgender lab animals. 1.00

01:29:09.000 We broke that story.

01:29:11.000 I testified in a House Oversight Committee hearing about it.

01:29:13.000 It got to the president's desk, and during his congressional address, the State of the Union, he called out his government waste that he was going to cut.

01:29:21.000 And two days later, he was talking about it again on Fox with Maria Bartiromo talking about these crazy animal experiments that are creating transgender animals that need to be cut. 1.00

01:29:30.000 I am confident that if he heard about cat constipation experiments, he'd be out there talking about the tremendous waste and abuse at the NIH that people like Fauci...

01:29:39.000 But even after President Trump spoke out about the transgender mice experiment, somebody in the NIH, as we reported here on Loomer Unleashed, and there's an article about this on my website, we'll get it pulled up right now, but I put an article out about this, about how the NIH renewed funding for cruel Fauci, Beagle, and trans mice experiments under the new Trump administration.

01:30:03.000 You know, they quietly renewed the funding for these trans mice experiments, and they extended it for another year, just like they did with these Beagle torture experiments.

01:30:13.000 And so, again, it's like sabotage of Trump's administration from people within his administration.

01:30:19.000 Donald Trump doesn't want there to be transgender mice experiments, but clearly, as you can see from this exclusive report we put out on April 22nd, let's scroll down with the receipts uncovered by White Coat Waste.

01:30:30.000 You can see here.

01:30:33.000 Scroll down some more.

01:30:35.000 We have all the documentation.

01:30:40.000 More documents.

01:30:41.000 We have the documents.

01:30:42.000 Here we go.

01:30:43.000 Okay, so that was the same article as before.

01:30:45.000 Scroll down and keep scrolling down.

01:30:53.000 Posted it earlier.

01:30:54.000 Maybe we have the receipts here.

01:30:55.000 We put it in the article.

01:30:57.000 Let's see.

01:30:58.000 Scroll up a bit.

01:31:00.000 I think I tweeted it.

01:31:01.000 I think that's what I did, is I may have tweeted it.

01:31:03.000 Oh yeah, you may have tweeted it.

01:31:04.000 I think I tweeted it, but it was in the article too, I know.

01:31:07.000 It was tweeted on April 22nd a long time ago.

01:31:10.000 You could type in transgender mice Laura Loomer and probably find it. 0.99

01:31:14.000 Anyway, I can describe it, and you can too.

01:31:17.000 We broke this story, and this was on April 22nd.

01:31:20.000 So President Trump gives his address weeks prior to this, of course.

01:31:24.000 And they're renewing, like, secretly and quietly trying to renew.

01:31:28.000 Here we go.

01:31:28.000 Here we have it right here.

01:31:32.000 The budget expiration date was supposed to be June of 2025.

01:31:36.000 Okay, this was for a project at the University of Indiana.

01:31:41.000 And then if you scroll down, right, and you can see the graphic, if you zoom out of the graphics, everybody can see it on the full screen.

01:31:47.000 It says revised budget date.

01:31:49.000 And then the budget date then says June 30th of 2026.

01:31:53.000 So again, it was supposed to end in a month, and now they're renewing it, and this is through the NIH.

01:31:59.000 You can see from the NIH database there, we had this little graphic put together.

01:32:04.000 Who within the NIH is sabotaging President Trump's agenda?

01:32:08.000 Doge identified this wasteful spending.

01:32:11.000 You identified this wasteful spending.

01:32:13.000 President Trump brings it to everyone's attention.

01:32:16.000 People mock it.

01:32:17.000 You had Bill Maher on TV trying to say that it was fake news.

01:32:20.000 All these leftist reporters at CNN trying to say that it wasn't real.

01:32:24.000 Then they were forced to issue a retraction on CNN and say, oh, you know, actually, they were doing transgender mice experiments.

01:32:31.000 And now they're quietly renewing it.

01:32:33.000 We didn't hear anything about them ending the mice experiments in this Oval Office meeting that they had.

01:32:40.000 We didn't hear anything about them ending it when Dr. Jay Bhattacharya said they were shutting down the Beagle Lab.

01:32:45.000 It looks like we're still going to be getting transgender mice experiments and experiments on beagles in laboratories in China funded by U.S. taxpayer dollars.

01:32:54.000 We're still going to be shoving marbles and condoms up cats' buttholes for the Department of Defense. 0.99

01:33:01.000 Well, hopefully that's not the case.

01:33:03.000 And hopefully, again, you'll work your magic and the right people are listening and watching to this, watching this and are going to wake up tomorrow and do something about it.

01:33:13.000 But yeah, to the Trump administration, to Doge's credit and the Trump administration's credit, they cut 10 of the grants that we uncovered that were funding transgender animal experiments, but they didn't cut all of them.

01:33:23.000 There were two that we were sure had not been cut.

01:33:26.000 One just expired naturally, just the course of the grant at Duke University.

01:33:31.000 And that one's over, at least unless it gets renewed.

01:33:34.000 And then this other one in Indiana University, these were the last two.

01:33:37.000 And we kept telling the NIH that the White House highlighted these grants in its press release in March, saying, here's the wasteful transgender animal experiments we need to cut. 1.00

01:33:50.000 And they cut most of them, but there were still two that were in the White House press release and press statement that had not been cut.

01:33:56.000 And if you go on the NIH website today, right now, this morning, I was on it.

01:34:00.000 The grant to Indiana University still shows as active and funded through 2026.

01:34:06.000 And I pointed this out to the NIH and I said, oh yeah, well, we're going to take care of it.

01:34:10.000 But it's still up.

01:34:12.000 You know, again, you can look for yourself.

01:34:14.000 We have the receipts.

01:34:15.000 It's still showing as active on the NIH website and funded through 2026.

01:34:19.000 Same with a lot of these experiments that we've heard, you know, people have told us in the administration or NIH, we're going to get on that.

01:34:25.000 We're taking care of that.

01:34:26.000 Well, put your money where your mouth is.

01:34:28.000 People would love to hear that you've cut animal abuse.

01:34:31.000 It's not something to keep a secret.

01:34:32.000 It's something you put out a press release about and tweet about and go tell the president about so he can take a victory lap.

01:34:37.000 But that doesn't seem to be happening.

01:34:38.000 Jay Bhattacharya's mention of cutting a dog lap was like an afterthought.

01:34:42.000 Yeah, it's such an easy win.

01:34:44.000 I mean, you would think that they'd be all over this in terms of, you know, oh, Mr. President, we can bring some beagles to the Oval Office and you can take a photo with a beagle and everyone will look.

01:34:53.000 You know, you're doing the right thing, but also the optics of it are just amazing for the president.

01:34:58.000 I mean, how is the left going to find something to be angry about saving animals?

01:35:02.000 I'm sure they probably would, right?

01:35:04.000 But the optics are so good and it's also saving the American people money.

01:35:08.000 But most importantly, you're sticking up for innocent animals.

01:35:12.000 Who can't defend themselves.

01:35:13.000 And so it's crazy to think that there are actually people in the administration who are maliciously gatekeeping this information from Donald Trump and also trying to undermine his public statements to...

01:35:27.000 I think that they're trying to do this on purpose to embarrass the President of the United States because why else would you quietly extend a contract for transgender mice experiments after the President said that he doesn't want it anymore? 0.75

01:35:39.000 Or promote a gain-of-function lunatic at the NIH who worked with Fauci and was involved in digging up a dead body to harvest a virus for gain-of-function experiments. 0.79

01:35:48.000 I mean, this is just lunacy.

01:35:50.000 This is something you'd expect under Francis Collins and Anthony Fauci at the NIH under Joe Biden, not under the Trump administration.

01:35:59.000 That promised us a clean slate over agencies like the NIH.

01:36:04.000 So, yeah, I can't imagine that this has made its way to the president.

01:36:07.000 And honestly, I think...

01:36:09.000 There's definitely some bad actors and malicious activity going on.

01:36:12.000 But I also just think people don't have their priorities straight.

01:36:16.000 You see these agencies putting out statements, putting out press releases, things that people just don't care about that are not important, that are not going to get people fired up to rally around what's happening.

01:36:30.000 Well, they also spend a lot of time meeming.

01:36:31.000 And people are disappointed.

01:36:32.000 People are disappointed.

01:36:33.000 And I'm not trying to...

01:36:34.000 I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer here at all.

01:36:37.000 I think memes are good.

01:36:38.000 But, you know, it seems like there's a lot of people in the White House press team that have a lot of time on their hands to be making all types of memes and graphics.

01:36:46.000 And there seems to be a lot of gatekeeping with people that are emailing the press team trying to get this information to the president.

01:36:53.000 And so maybe some of the interns in the White House should spend less time memeing and they should spend more time actually relaying information to...

01:37:00.000 The Press Secretary and the President of the United States.

01:37:03.000 I mean, look, I'm not trying to sound bitchy when I say this, but, you know, every single day there's like another Zoomer-like tweet from the White House social media account, and they have an awful amount of time to be memeing and making all types of graphics and meme-like tweets.

01:37:17.000 But, you know, people like yourself and people like me are sending the press team all of these very important reports that could be benefiting the administration, showing how the Trump administration's agenda is being undermined.

01:37:28.000 I don't know.

01:37:29.000 It's like you have a lot of children that seem to be working.

01:37:31.000 I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but it does seem like there are some very immature people, perhaps in these intern positions, that spend their time more focused on social media as opposed to actually getting press reports to the President of the United States.

01:37:46.000 Because, I mean, God only knows how many emails you've sent over and how many reports you've sent over to the White House.

01:37:52.000 And I hope you don't mind sharing this, but have your messages even been replied to?

01:37:58.000 Some of them.

01:37:59.000 Some of them.

01:38:00.000 I've sent, I think, over $1.5 billion in line-itemed animal tests that are being funded by NIH and DOD that could be cut overnight.

01:38:13.000 Most of those are still active.

01:38:15.000 Virtually all of them are still active.

01:38:17.000 And listen, our job as a watchdog organization, your job as a journalist, is to hold the government accountable.

01:38:25.000 Whether there's a Republican or a Democrat in the White House or in Congress, our job is to hold them accountable and promote whatever our mission is.

01:38:34.000 The first Trump administration, we beat up on the USDA.

01:38:37.000 We beat up on the VA for torturing dogs and cats until they did the right thing, and eventually they came around.

01:38:42.000 FDA eventually came around.

01:38:43.000 These agencies were on the wrong side of the issue, and we launched effective campaigns, grassroots advocacy campaigns, press campaigns, working with people like Roger Stone Show the government that, listen, you're screwing up badly.

01:39:00.000 You're not promoting the president's agenda, which is to cut wasteful spending and be kind to animals when possible.

01:39:07.000 And obviously, that was something that Trump has taken seriously.

01:39:10.000 So we held them accountable, and we got good outcomes.

01:39:13.000 We shut down the largest cat lab in the entire government at the USDA, and dozens of cats got released to loving homes.

01:39:21.000 Two of them went to live with our president and founder, Delilah N. Petit.

01:39:24.000 We shut down FDA's nicotine experiments.

01:39:26.000 They retired a couple dozen monkeys to a sanctuary in Florida where they're still living.

01:39:31.000 We ended dog and cat testing at the VA.

01:39:34.000 And those things didn't happen overnight.

01:39:37.000 The agencies had to be pulled kicking and screaming.

01:39:40.000 And again, we are a nonpartisan advocacy group.

01:39:43.000 So we are against wasteful government spending that funds animal abuse.

01:39:49.000 The first Trump administration started off on the wrong foot but ended up in the right place and ended up making history.

01:39:54.000 Like I said, Trump will go down in history for the decisions that were made at that time.

01:39:58.000 But it didn't come without a lot of agitation from outside.

01:40:03.000 of people holding the government accountable.

01:40:06.000 Same under Biden, except they undid a lot of the progress that Trump made.

01:40:10.000 And a lot of our fights with them were trying to preserve the progress we made under the Trump administration and preserve the cuts, preserve the phase-out plans and timelines to get rid of animal testing.

01:40:19.000 And they reversed a lot of that.

01:40:20.000 So a lot of the work then was holding them accountable to simply preserve protections, progress we made with Trump.

01:40:26.000 And here we are again, thinking we'll pick up where we left off with Trump.

01:40:30.000 We're going to keep the momentum going.

01:40:32.000 And in some cases, that's been true.

01:40:34.000 But in the bigger picture, yeah, I think a lot more could have been done in the first 100 days to make way and clear the depth to do other things instead of you and me being here 100 plus days in talking about how they're still funding and torturing cats and dogs and experiments in the US and China.

01:40:51.000 I mean, we shouldn't still be talking about this.

01:40:53.000 We should all be celebrating that it's over and that Trump did it.

01:40:57.000 And we can move on to the next thing, but we're still talking about this, and that's very surprising to me.

01:41:02.000 Yeah, and look, I'm grateful for what Trump is doing, but at the same time, I want people to know that just because they had all these media stations covering the shutdown of this one Beagle Lab doesn't mean that it's ended.

01:41:15.000 We just gave you multiple examples here, live on Loomer Unleashed, of different experiments involving animals that are being funded by taxpayer money through the NIH and also the Department of Defense.

01:41:27.000 Abroad also here in the United States, but also in China abroad.

01:41:32.000 So it's concerning and we have to keep up the fight.

01:41:37.000 And that's the thing is that...

01:41:39.000 It doesn't matter whether I have a press pass or not.

01:41:41.000 I'm still going to be breaking these stories and I'm still going to find a way to get these reports to the President of the United States and people in the administration who need to know this information.

01:41:51.000 And so where can people go to support the work that you're doing?

01:41:55.000 Because it's really incredible.

01:41:56.000 And if you're an animal lover and you want to see your taxpayer money stop being used to torture and abuse innocent animals, I think that you should...

01:42:07.000 Go on over to Why Coat Waste website right now and make a donation to them because, I mean, this is really incredible work that they're doing.

01:42:15.000 And I know what it's like to have your hard work stolen from you and taken from you and to not get credit when other people are trying to pretend like they're responsible for your work.

01:42:25.000 And it's one of the worst things ever because, you know, you want to be able to celebrate the victories.

01:42:32.000 Not for your ego, but because you work hard and you spend a lot of time and you spend a lot of money doing these investigations.

01:42:38.000 So where do people go to support your work over at White Coat Ways, Justin?

01:42:44.000 So thanks for all the kind words, Laura, and we couldn't be scoring these big wins without you.

01:42:48.000 So thank you, thank you, thank you from the bottom of our hearts for your support.

01:42:52.000 Whitecoatwaste.org is our website and@whitecoatwaste on all social media platforms.

01:42:57.000 Go there, follow the work we're doing, sign up for our mailing list on our website so you get updates.

01:43:03.000 We just sent out a bunch of emails about...

01:43:05.000 The history of our NIH dog testing campaign and how we got to ending this Beagle Lab.

01:43:10.000 We send out action alerts where you send emails directly into the White House or federal agencies.

01:43:15.000 We have one up right now asking people to write Dr. Jay Bhattacharya at NIH and urging him to defund all dog and cat testing immediately.

01:43:22.000 So we'd love for you to join our grassroots army.

01:43:25.000 Donate if you can.

01:43:27.000 But yeah, this is a pivotal moment here.

01:43:29.000 We have an administration and a president who actually is serious about cutting wasteful spending.

01:43:35.000 At the NIH, that's never been done before.

01:43:38.000 The NIH is the single largest abuser of animals in laboratories in the world, and Trump can do something about it.

01:43:44.000 We just need some pressure on his leadership at the NIH to get them to do the right thing.

01:43:50.000 So whitecoatwaste.org, at White Coat Waste.

01:43:53.000 Tell your friends, share, like, repost, do all that stuff, and spread the word.

01:43:58.000 Absolutely.

01:43:59.000 And where do people go to follow you?

01:44:01.000 And White Coat Waste on social media so that they can see all of these exciting updates and reports. 0.98

01:44:08.000 Yeah, if you want to follow me, talking shit on X, at Justin R. Goodman. 0.90

01:44:13.000 And again, our official account is at White Coat Waste. 0.96

01:44:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:44:17.000 Well, hey, look, we're talking shit. 1.00

01:44:20.000 We're shitposting for a cause. 1.00

01:44:21.000 You know, we're actually saving animals with our shit talking, so it's good shit talking. 0.99

01:44:26.000 Well, Justin, thank you so much for coming on tonight. 0.99

01:44:29.000 Again, fantastic work.

01:44:30.000 And if people want to read these exclusive reports, this exclusive report that, you know, I just broke on my website in conjunction with White Coat Waste, you can go to lumered.com, lumered.com, and you can see the watermarked FOIA requests from White Coat Waste yourself.

01:44:45.000 And look, the receipts don't lie.

01:44:47.000 You can clearly see that they had every intention.

01:44:50.000 Two weeks ago of extending these Beagle experiments at the same NIH lab under the Trump administration that they are saying they just shut down.

01:44:59.000 So it's important that people know how this all happened.

01:45:03.000 And it couldn't have been done without you, Justin.

01:45:06.000 So thanks for everything that you do to support our furry friends.

01:45:10.000 Thank you, Laura.

01:45:11.000 And thanks to Elon.

01:45:12.000 If he's listening, we know you helped get this on the radar of the administration and get it shut down.

01:45:17.000 Thank you, Elon Musk, because I truly believe that this only got shut down because Elon probably, I mean, I have no evidence of this, but I think that given the screenshots and the time of events, I think Elon probably was like, what the hell's going on?

01:45:30.000 Shut this down.

01:45:33.000 Yeah, me too.

01:45:34.000 Me too.

01:45:34.000 So thank you all.

01:45:35.000 Thanks to everyone listening and watching for your support.

01:45:37.000 And yeah, join the fight with us.

01:45:39.000 Thank you.

01:45:40.000 See you soon.

01:45:41.000 Thanks, Laura.

01:45:45.000 Well, as I said, on Thursday's episode of Loomer Unleashed, we're going to have a very exciting, heartwarming, emotional, exclusive video release.

01:45:56.000 So stay tuned for that continuation of our work here on Loomer Unleashed to help.

01:46:02.000 Save and rescue these beagles and to promote and expose these cruel investigations or experiments and the very heroic investigations, these very cruel animal experiments and the heroic investigations into these experiments that are being exposed by white coat waste. 0.65

01:46:22.000 So stay tuned for Thursday's episode.

01:46:25.000 Before we continue tonight, there's a lot to talk about, of course, as it relates to these Epstein files.

01:46:32.000 Wild statement made by Congressman James Comer today that he thinks the Epstein files may have actually been shredded or burned.

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01:48:55.000 Alrighty, moving on now.

01:48:58.000 This was crazy.

01:49:01.000 Everybody's been wondering where the Epstein files are.

01:49:07.000 Go ahead and put your comments in the chat because I know that a lot of people are going to have comments about this tonight.

01:49:12.000 And if you have any comments or questions about all this animal testing that we discussed, we're going to be heading on over to the comments section momentarily.

01:49:21.000 But I want to play this clip for you.

01:49:23.000 This clip is crazy.

01:49:25.000 This came out today.

01:49:26.000 This was an interview with Benny Johnson on The Benny Johnson Show and Congressman James Comer, who's on the House Oversight Committee.

01:49:37.000 Benny Johnson, it's a little bit of a long clip, but you should watch it.

01:49:41.000 It's mind-blowing.

01:49:43.000 Benny Johnson was asking James Comer about the Epstein files and whether or not we could expect to see the Epstein files come out.

01:49:50.000 And, you know, usually you hear all these canned responses from politicians that just go ahead and defend Pam Blondie, right?

01:49:56.000 And they say, oh, you know, Pam Blondie's doing such a great job. 1.00

01:49:58.000 You know, it's like, you know, all this fucking circle jerk bullshit. 1.00

01:50:02.000 Oh, yeah, she's so amazing. 1.00

01:50:04.000 Oh, my God, she's so great.

01:50:05.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

01:50:06.000 Yeah, she's not so great.

01:50:07.000 Trust me, guys.

01:50:08.000 She's not really doing such a great job.

01:50:10.000 We were promised that these files were going to be released on day one.

01:50:14.000 Day one promise.

01:50:15.000 Well, what is it now?

01:50:16.000 Over 100 days into the Trump administration, have we seen any Epstein files?

01:50:20.000 No, we haven't received any Epstein files.

01:50:22.000 Then she goes on Fox News.

01:50:23.000 I mean, honestly, every single day, Pam Blondie is on Fox News.

01:50:27.000 She's on Fox News more than she does her job, and other people are starting to realize it.

01:50:32.000 We have a video clip, and we'll play this after the fact, right?

01:50:35.000 Or maybe we should play this video clip before we play the Comer clip so that you can see all the different statements that have been made by Pam Blondie.

01:50:43.000 I made this video clip.

01:50:46.000 Population probably like.

01:50:48.000 Two months or so ago to highlight all of the discrepancies in Pam Bondi's statements.

01:50:54.000 First, she said that the files were on her desk, right?

01:50:56.000 And then she had that ridiculous binder gate situation at the White House where she made all these crazy binders that were not even full of Epstein documents and had these influencers essentially run a state media campaign for her where they wave these binders around pretending like they were given Epstein files by Pam Bondi.

01:51:13.000 Well, it turns out there's really nothing in the binder.

01:51:16.000 Then she goes on Fox News and says, oh, the files are on my desk right now.

01:51:21.000 Then she tells Mark Levin that the files are being delivered to my office in a truck.

01:51:30.000 So they were on her desk, but then they weren't on her desk.

01:51:33.000 And then they were delivered to her office in a truck.

01:51:36.000 And then the big bad boogeymen over at the Deep State were trying to sabotage her, and they lied to her about the real Epstein documents.

01:51:45.000 And then, they were going to be released at a later date.

01:51:47.000 But now, right?

01:51:49.000 We don't know.

01:51:50.000 Because Pam Blondie also came out this last week and said that there's no set deadline for when they're going to release the Epstein files.

01:51:56.000 Even though we were told she already released the Epstein files.

01:51:58.000 Remember when she gave out these binders?

01:52:01.000 Right?

01:52:01.000 Bindergate.

01:52:02.000 How could we forget Bindergate? 0.96

01:52:04.000 So look, I think we need to just have a come-to-Jesus moment here and realize and admit that Pam Blondie is a liar, right? 1.00

01:52:10.000 She is a full-fledged liar. 0.99

01:52:12.000 She has, in my opinion, Little to no credibility as a result of her lies about one of the most high-profile criminal cases ever, the Jeffrey Epstein sex scandal, human trafficking scandal, sex crime pedophilia scandal, something that has captivated the attention of people not just here in the United States but all around the world. 1.00

01:52:35.000 And she has royally dropped the ball and screwed the pooch on this. 1.00

01:52:39.000 So let's go ahead and just show you this compilation of Pam Blondie's previous statements on the Epstein files.

01:52:46.000 And then we're going to show you what James Comer said today.

01:52:48.000 And then you can come to the conclusion, maybe you're going to come to the same conclusion that I've come to, that Pam Blondie is a liar and we can't trust Pam Blondie anymore. 0.58

01:52:56.000 Let's play the clip.

01:52:58.000 The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients?

01:53:02.000 Will that really happen?

01:53:04.000 It's sitting on my desk right now to review.

01:53:07.000 That's been a directive by President Trump.

01:53:09.000 I'm reviewing that.

01:53:10.000 I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files.

01:53:13.000 That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.

01:53:19.000 And, of course, you've seen the very strong letter.

01:53:21.000 We will get everything.

01:53:23.000 We will have it in our possession.

01:53:25.000 We will redact it, of course, to protect grand jury information.

01:53:30.000 And confidential witnesses, but the American people have a right to know.

01:53:34.000 And Donald Trump is the most transparent president in our nation's history.

01:53:39.000 So not only will America get the full Epstein files, they will get JFK. 0.54

01:53:43.000 They will get Martin Luther King.

01:53:45.000 Thank you.

01:53:51.000 I don't think we have any of those files right now.

01:53:55.000 Here's another promise from Pam Blondie on Maria Bartiromo.

01:53:59.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number 20. The MAGA group is mad that they don't know more about the Epstein files.

01:54:05.000 The MAGA group is mad that they don't know more about the January 6th investigation.

01:54:10.000 Are you going to give us any more information on these two issues?

01:54:14.000 Sure.

01:54:14.000 And first, to the Epstein.

01:54:16.000 I'm mad that I didn't have more information on Epstein.

01:54:19.000 I was given 200 pages of documents.

01:54:21.000 I've asked Director Patel.

01:54:23.000 He came in after that, of course.

01:54:25.000 I had asked for those documents prior to cash coming in.

01:54:28.000 Cash is going to get me.

01:54:29.000 All the information I've asked him to find out why I didn't receive all those documents and he didn't receive all those documents.

01:54:37.000 We've now found out, of course, that they were in New York.

01:54:40.000 We've received a truckload of documents of evidence.

01:54:43.000 And Cash is going to give me a deadline on when he can go through that to protect, of course, the victims of sex trafficking who are wrapped into this.

01:54:53.000 And he's going to give me a deadline on when he can get this and we will get out as much as we can.

01:54:58.000 As fast as we can to the American people because they deserve to know.

01:55:03.000 Same with January 6th.

01:55:04.000 We're all working on JFK right now.

01:55:07.000 We will be working on Martin Luther King.

01:55:10.000 All of these things that the president promised, we will be doing.

01:55:14.000 They can try to hide documents from us, but they can't.

01:55:17.000 It might take a little longer.

01:55:18.000 We will find them and we will release them to the American people because it's transparency.

01:55:26.000 I don't even think we got all the JFK files.

01:55:29.000 I don't even think we got all the MLK files.

01:55:31.000 We certainly did not get any of the Epstein files.

01:55:34.000 So, oh, the files are on my desk.

01:55:38.000 The files are going to be released.

01:55:40.000 Here's the files at the White House with us, you know, Findergate, social media influencers.

01:55:46.000 I'm so angry that the FBI lied to me and said that they gave me the files because I don't know how to proofread and I decided to put together a bunch of binders without even looking to see what was inside the information that the FBI gave to me.

01:56:03.000 I mean, it's just lie after lie after lie.

01:56:07.000 And look, I said on the show months ago, we're not getting the Epstein files, okay?

01:56:12.000 I told you all months ago, don't expect these Epstein files because we're not going to get them.

01:56:17.000 Either they're video files, I said, because they're child pornography or the physical files have been destroyed.

01:56:23.000 That clip is on social media.

01:56:24.000 I said that months ago.

01:56:26.000 And now, James Comer...

01:56:28.000 Who, you know, he's a bit of a blowhard himself.

01:56:31.000 I mean, this is a guy that wrote a book about the Biden crime family saying that he was going to impeach Joe Biden.

01:56:35.000 Where the hell did that investigation go?

01:56:36.000 He spent more time writing book chapters than writing subpoenas.

01:56:41.000 Right?

01:56:42.000 That's a fact.

01:56:43.000 We have a book from James Comer about the Biden crime family, but we don't have an impeachment of the Biden crime family or Joe Biden.

01:56:53.000 So...

01:56:55.000 James Comer is all about fake investigations and talking to Big Talk and making false promises to the GOP.

01:57:03.000 But hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

01:57:07.000 Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

01:57:09.000 And I want you to take a listen to what James Comer said today on Benny Johnson because this is the truth.

01:57:15.000 This is probably what really happened.

01:57:17.000 There are no more Epstein files because they have probably been destroyed.

01:57:20.000 Take a listen to what James Comer, a member of Congress, had to say today.

01:57:24.000 This program, just for the sake of transparency, which is very big for you, and so in closing, any motion on that?

01:57:32.000 Any movement on that?

01:57:33.000 We hear that there's a timeline now.

01:57:35.000 I hope James has the Epstein files, because I don't think the Department of Justice has them, or at least the Attorney General does not have them, or she would have turned them over.

01:57:46.000 The President ordered them released.

01:57:49.000 The attorney general ordered them released.

01:57:51.000 We all know they have not been released.

01:57:53.000 And one of my biggest fears that I had, and I expressed this with, was Kash Patel and a lot of people, Stephen Miller and a lot of people going into the new administration.

01:58:04.000 I'm like, you know, I hope they're not shredding documents right now.

01:58:09.000 This was a few weeks before the transition.

01:58:11.000 I said, I hope they're not shredding documents, but you all need to go on that first day.

01:58:16.000 And try to get all this stuff released because, you know, my fear is from what I've dealt with in investigations and in communication with this deep state apparatus is they're probably in there shredding documents as we speak.

01:58:30.000 So hopefully someone has a copy of that.

01:58:34.000 And, you know, I hope we find out because our task force has done everything led by Anna Polina Luna.

01:58:40.000 You had her on your show many times.

01:58:42.000 I mean, she's relentless.

01:58:43.000 She's persistent.

01:58:44.000 She's pretty frustrated right now that these files haven't been released, even though the president and the attorney general have ordered them released.

01:58:54.000 But, you know, it's like I told Anna the same thing I told Patel and everybody else.

01:59:00.000 I'm like, you assume that somebody in the deep state said, okay, we'll just put these in a file back here, this incriminating evidence on everybody, and maybe the next administration can Can do whatever they want to do with it.

01:59:13.000 That's unfortunately the way it's supposed to work, but it hasn't worked with this deep state.

01:59:21.000 So they're just going to let the incriminating evidence sit there smoldering.

01:59:25.000 That could put them all in prison.

01:59:26.000 Yeah, they should.

01:59:28.000 That's what they're supposed to do.

01:59:30.000 But you and I have dealt with them.

01:59:32.000 Vinnie, you've covered the deep state as well as anyone.

01:59:35.000 I mean, they cover their tracks.

01:59:38.000 And it's just hard for me to believe they're going to leave incriminating evidence.

01:59:41.000 If the government was involved, if the government wasn't involved, I don't think they would have any reason to protect Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton.

01:59:48.000 They're never going to be elected anything again.

01:59:50.000 I don't think they would have any reason to protect Bill Gates or anybody else.

01:59:53.000 The concern I've always had about the Epstein file, was the government involved?

01:59:58.000 Did the government know?

01:59:59.000 Was the government using Epstein and the videos to blackmail the most influential people around the world?

02:00:07.000 If that's the case, then they knew there were victims of sex crimes there, and they did nothing.

02:00:15.000 So, you know, that's the concern I have.

02:00:19.000 If the government covers this up, I don't believe it's because of any love affair or affection for the Clinton family, just like I never believed they were hiding and covering for the Bidens because they loved Joe Biden.

02:00:33.000 It was because they hated Donald Trump, you know, and they didn't want...

02:00:36.000 Their agencies to be disrupted.

02:00:38.000 The same thing with the Epstein files.

02:00:40.000 I don't know this, but my concern is that the government may have known a lot more and may have been an active participant, maybe with the intentions of intelligence gathering.

02:00:54.000 Who knows?

02:00:55.000 But at the end of the day, I don't think the American people would be okay if the government knew that crimes against young women were occurring.

02:01:04.000 And yet they did nothing to intervene.

02:01:11.000 So you heard it there.

02:01:13.000 He said if Pam Bondi was going to release these files, she would have already done so if she had them.

02:01:19.000 And then he went on to say that, shockingly, that he thinks that the files have been destroyed, that they have either been shredded or incinerated.

02:01:28.000 Those are some pretty shocking statements from a United States member of Congress.

02:01:33.000 Again, look, a broken clock is right twice today.

02:01:36.000 He's not my favorite, but look, at the end of the day, he's right.

02:01:38.000 If Pam Bondi had these documents, she would have probably already released these documents and she has not released the documents.

02:01:45.000 So, you know, crazy.

02:01:50.000 Totally crazy.

02:01:52.000 Pam Bondi is going to have to respond to this because these are pretty charged accusations and pretty charged Inflammatory comments made by a member of Congress, the head of the Oversight Committee in Congress, suggesting that Pam Blondie is lying about having these files and that the files don't exist anymore because they have all been destroyed. 0.54

02:02:17.000 I think everybody needs to be very concerned about this.

02:02:20.000 But we're not...

02:02:26.000 Gonna hear about this from the Trump administration, I bet, because it's a bit of a black eye after Bindergate.

02:02:32.000 Shut that down really fast, didn't they?

02:02:36.000 But hey, we're not allowed to talk about that.

02:02:41.000 Let's see.

02:02:42.000 There's so much to talk about.

02:02:45.000 The Democrats, of course, are experiencing record low approval rating.

02:02:50.000 And as a result, they have continued their trend of inciting violence.

02:02:54.000 And we have some clips in case you missed them this week.

02:02:57.000 Ilhan Omar, in a video interview with Mehdi Hassan, who is a radical Muslim.

02:03:03.000 He was fired, I believe, from MSNBC because of his...

02:03:07.000 allegedly fired because of his...

02:03:10.000 Radical Muslim sentiments, especially his radical comments in the aftermath of October 7th.

02:03:16.000 Here's an interview with Ilhan Omar that's been going viral.

02:03:20.000 It even prompted a response from Vice President J.D. Vance the other day in which she said that...

02:03:26.000 We shouldn't be worried about the threat of jihadists and Islamic terror, but instead, governments should be profiling white men and they should actually be putting white men in databases because white men, she says, are the biggest terror threat in our country. 0.68

02:03:39.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip. 0.98

02:03:40.000 Shocking. 0.95

02:03:42.000 I would say our country should be more fearful of white men across our country because they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country. 1.00

02:03:57.000 We should be profiling, monitoring and creating policies to fight the radicalization of white men. 0.56

02:04:08.000 Absolutely. 0.91

02:04:09.000 Absolutely insane.

02:04:10.000 I believe we have J.D. Vance's.

02:04:12.000 Tweet from this week in which he said that her language is genocidal. 1.00

02:04:17.000 Let's go ahead and get that up.

02:04:22.000 We have that tweet.

02:04:23.000 We have that tweet.

02:04:31.000 He said this isn't just sick, it's actually genocidal language. 0.99

02:04:34.000 What a disgrace this person is. 0.98

02:04:38.000 But hey, the Democrats think that this kind of language is going to win them the midterms, and they think that they are going to have success telling white men that they're the biggest terror threat in our country. 0.97

02:04:53.000 I believe we also have a clip of Jasmine Crockett saying that we need to throw a chair at our haters.

02:05:01.000 We have that clip.

02:05:01.000 Let's go ahead and get that clip pulled up.

02:05:06.000 Jasmine Crockett seems to be in the news every single week because she is making very derogatory and violent comments towards Republicans. 0.99

02:05:16.000 She made a comment the other day while she was speaking at a, I think she was a commencement speaker.

02:05:21.000 I mean, it's quite shocking that she's giving this type of talk at a commencement speech.

02:05:25.000 And you can see that Benny Thompson is sitting behind her.

02:05:29.000 Of course, he was one of the main members of the J6 committee, sitting right behind her there while she gives that talk.

02:05:36.000 But Jasmine Crockett talking about how you need to use a chair to physically throw at your Republican haters. 1.00

02:05:44.000 I mean this is incitement to violence.

02:05:45.000 Let's go ahead and play the clip.

02:05:47.000 There are going to be people that tell you that you don't belong, and I am here to tell you over and over and over that you absolutely belong.

02:05:55.000 There are people that are going to tell you that there is not a table in which there is a seat for you, but I am here to remind you of Montgomery and those folding chairs.

02:06:06.000 Let me tell you that we know how to use a chair, whether we pulling it up or we doing something else with it.

02:06:16.000 Let me be the first one to tell you that I know that y 'all are ready to put your boots on the ground.

02:06:28.000 That's your cue.

02:06:31.000 There we go Yes So ghetto. 0.95

02:06:45.000 I just can't believe that she's an actual member of Congress.

02:06:49.000 So today, Loomer Unleashed DC contributor Charles Downs actually caught up with congressional Democrats as they were walking around the hill.

02:06:56.000 And we decided to confront them and talk to them and ask them about these comments and remarks made by Ilhan Omar and Jasmine Crockett.

02:07:04.000 And Charles actually caught up with Democrat Congressman Dan Goldman, who, if you recall, If you're a longtime here of Loomer Unleashed, you know we've covered him extensively here.

02:07:15.000 He is a client of Lauren Mershon.

02:07:17.000 Of course, that's the daughter of Judge Juan Mershon, her political consulting company.

02:07:22.000 And we asked him, we asked him, do you agree with your colleague Jasmine Crockett's comments that called for the incitement of violence against Republicans and physical assault against Republicans with a chair?

02:07:35.000 And take a listen to what the congressman from New York had to say.

02:07:39.000 Congressman Goldman.

02:07:41.000 Do you agree with your colleague Jasmine Crockett's incitement of violence that Democrats should use a chair to attack the Republican haters?

02:07:51.000 It's not inciting violence.

02:07:53.000 So saying they use a chair to attack haters isn't inciting violence?

02:07:57.000 No.

02:07:58.000 You should go pay attention to what happened on January 6th if you want to learn the definition of inciting violence.

02:08:05.000 So you're okay with, remember, your, I guess, colleagues saying, hey, use a chair against Republican haters?

02:08:11.000 All right.

02:08:12.000 I was just being clear, Congressman.

02:08:13.000 You've been clear both sides.

02:08:15.000 Thank you.

02:08:16.000 Congressman, it's all this.

02:08:22.000 He refused to condemn the violence, but then he took it a step further and said, oh, if you want to talk about violence, let's talk about what happened on January 6th.

02:08:33.000 I mean, what is he talking about?

02:08:35.000 Is he talking about a black Democrat police officer murdering Ashley Babbitt?

02:08:39.000 That's the only violence I saw on January 6th.

02:08:43.000 Of course, Democrats don't want to talk about that.

02:08:46.000 Even though the federal government this last week was forced to come to a settlement agreement with Ashley Babbitt's family, so that was some good news.

02:08:58.000 Every single day, the Democrats continue to grow more radical and more violent in their rhetoric.

02:09:03.000 You've probably been following all of the protest coverage that we've done here at Loomer and Leash over the last few weeks.

02:09:09.000 And we have documented the Tesla takedown events where they have Luigi Mangione wannabes.

02:09:16.000 They have been bringing illegal aliens to their rallies.

02:09:21.000 We have also documented members of Antifa who we've engaged in conversation.

02:09:25.000 All you have to do is just go to Loomer Unleashed on X and my X account.

02:09:30.000 Every single weekend, we're covering all these violent protests.

02:09:33.000 Every single week, we're covering the violent protests where you have people in support of these radical violent movements protesting against Donald Trump, protesting against Elon Musk in Washington, D.C., and you have many congressional Democrats who are speaking at their rallies.

02:09:49.000 Just the other day, we let's go ahead and.

02:09:50.000 We actually caught Maxwell Frost and we caught...

02:09:55.000 Senator Mazie Hirono from Hawaii attending one of these protests where they were actually inciting violence against President Donald Trump.

02:10:05.000 It was a May Day protest.

02:10:06.000 It was a May Day protest the other day for May 1st.

02:10:10.000 And, you know, Loomer Unleashed was one of the only outlets on the ground to document all these protests.

02:10:15.000 You had bust-in protesters by the Democrat Party, illegal aliens who were bust-in to protest President Trump's deportation orders.

02:10:25.000 You had Maxwell Frost there advocating in support of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, and you had Democrat Senator Mazie Hirono, who looked like an elderly patient needing assistance to walk. 0.82

02:10:38.000 Let's go ahead and get these videos pulled up, and I think this is the Mazie Hirono clip.

02:10:44.000 But it shows you we need term limits.

02:10:46.000 First of all, if you're a member of Congress and you need to be physically guided to get to your location, first of all, that's a major red flag.

02:10:52.000 Secondly, if you're hanging out with 501c3 nonprofit organizations that are acting in a partisan nature and advocating for illegal aliens, well, then those 501c3 should probably be stripped of their 501c3 tax-deductible status.

02:11:05.000 That's another thing.

02:11:07.000 Who in the Trump administration is giving the president advice?

02:11:10.000 Because that seems like a no-brainer to shutting down these radical movements.

02:11:14.000 All these groups that are protesting in Washington, D.C. are 501c3 charities.

02:11:19.000 So, again, I was told only geniuses work for Donald Trump.

02:11:22.000 I was told that Donald Trump only hires the best people.

02:11:25.000 So I just hope that some of these geniuses are able to figure this out themselves.

02:11:29.000 Let's go ahead and play the clip.

02:11:36.000 Congressman Frost!

02:11:38.000 Hey, how's it going?

02:11:39.000 Let me talk to him.

02:11:41.000 I know, right?

02:11:42.000 Hey, why are congressional Democrats obsessed with embracing policy that frees MS-13 gang members and brings them back to America?

02:11:50.000 I'm obsessed with the Constitution.

02:11:52.000 But do you not disagree that he was an MS-13 gang member, Congressman?

02:11:57.000 That's literally what the facts say, right?

02:11:58.000 Bye, Congressman.

02:12:00.000 Bye, Congressman.

02:12:03.000 Bye, Congressman.

02:12:12.000 He says he's obsessed with the Constitution.

02:12:15.000 Well, not really, because if you were obsessed with the Constitution, you'd be obsessed with law and order, and it's a crime for illegal aliens to enter our country illegally. 0.92

02:12:24.000 So, no, don't try to say that you're obsessed with the Constitution when you don't give a damn about law and order in our country.

02:12:29.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip of Senator Mazie Hirono. 0.78

02:12:33.000 These are Democrat lawmakers, right?

02:12:35.000 Maxwell Frost, the congressman from Florida, Maisie Hirono, the senator from Hawaii.

02:12:40.000 Democrats who are engaged in these protests on May Day with the radical left where we caught Antifa, okay?

02:12:46.000 We caught Palestinian jihadists. 0.98

02:12:48.000 We caught members of CASA, a pro-immigrant group that advocates for criminal illegal aliens chanting in support of MS-13 members, okay?

02:12:58.000 These are Democrat lawmakers hanging out with these degenerates, advocating for MS-13, advocating for Hamas jihadists, advocating for open borders, and they seem to think that this messaging is going to work for them ahead of 2026.

02:13:12.000 So let's go ahead and play this clip.

02:13:14.000 Democrat Senator Mazie Hirono on May Day being confronted by Loomer Unleashed.

02:13:21.000 Senator, why is freeing MS-13 gang members the Senate Democrats' official policy?

02:13:27.000 Why are you guys freeing MS-13 gang members?

02:13:30.000 Why are you guys trying to free them?

02:13:32.000 Also, I have one more question for you, Senator.

02:13:35.000 How does it feel to have spoken to an astroturfed Boston crowd?

02:13:41.000 The crowd you just spoke to was literally busted.

02:13:44.000 Do you have a comment on that?

02:13:47.000 Why does Kamala and all the elected Democrats like to speak to busting crowds? 1.00

02:13:51.000 Oh Are you sure you don't want to answer about Senate Democrats embracing policy to bring back an illegal immigrant MS-13 gang member, Senator?

02:14:09.000 Are you sure?

02:14:20.000 Thank you.

02:14:22.000 So again, be sure that you're following us on X at Laura Loomer and on X at Loomer Unleashed so that you never miss any of these updates or reports.

02:14:33.000 Last but not least, tomorrow...

02:14:35.000 Is the deposition of HBO and my lawsuit against Bill Maher.

02:14:40.000 As you know, I'm suing Bill Maher for defamation after Bill Maher falsely accused me in September of last year of having a sexual affair with President Donald Trump in the aftermath of the presidential debate between President Trump and...

02:14:54.000 Kamala Harris.

02:14:55.000 And so I sued Bill Maher for defamation.

02:14:57.000 And of course, his show airs on HBO.

02:15:00.000 And so I've also sued HBO.

02:15:02.000 And tomorrow is the deposition of HBO.

02:15:05.000 My attorney is going to be deposing HBO.

02:15:07.000 I actually attended the deposition of Bill Maher on April 4th in Beverly Hills.

02:15:13.000 And I had this lawsuit update that I wanted to read to all of you because many of you have asked me how my lawsuit is going.

02:15:20.000 HBO will be deposed tomorrow.

02:15:22.000 So, incredibly, Bill Maher has now asked the court to keep his deposition transcript and the video of the April 4th deposition for my defamation lawsuit confidential and under seal.

02:15:32.000 Lawsuits in our country are not secret star chamber proceedings.

02:15:36.000 They are generally open to the public, particularly in a case like mine, a defamation case, which is very simple but also egregious.

02:15:43.000 Apparently, let's scroll down a bit, Bill Maher thinks he has a license to maliciously defame me and President Trump as well as First Lady Melania Trump by falsely broadcasting to the world that I had sex with President Trump.

02:15:55.000 But to the contrary, Maher also contends that his testimony and disrespectful demeanor at his deposition should be sealed and kept from the public.

02:16:02.000 So, at a five-hour long deposition with Bill Maher in Beverly Hills, I was sitting across from Bill Maher.

02:16:13.000 At a location in Beverly Hills.

02:16:15.000 It was recorded on video.

02:16:17.000 It's a video deposition.

02:16:18.000 And Bill Maher is now saying that he wants the entire video deposition to be under seal so that nobody can ever watch it.

02:16:25.000 And my question is, is why?

02:16:26.000 Why don't you want people to see what you said?

02:16:28.000 I mean, if you're telling the truth about everything, why don't you want people to see what you said on video?

02:16:36.000 Trying to accuse me and my attorney of being abusive during the deposition.

02:16:41.000 It's just so outrageous, honestly, how these leftist pundits like to dish it out.

02:16:47.000 But anytime anybody pushes back or tries to hold them accountable, they just cry and pretend that they're a victim.

02:16:56.000 Apparently Bill Maher thinks he has a license to maliciously defame me and President Trump as well as First Lady Melania Trump by falsely broadcasting to the world that I had sex with President Trump.

02:17:05.000 But to the contrary, Marr also contends that his testimony and disrespectful demeanor at this deposition should be sealed and kept from the public.

02:17:13.000 This is the pot calling the kettle black.

02:17:16.000 HBO will be deposed in New York City this Wednesday, May 7th, that's tomorrow, by my attorney, Larry Klayman.

02:17:21.000 The cost of these depositions are enormous, particularly when travel is included.

02:17:26.000 The cost of the court reporter, the video recordings, and the deposition transcripts are also very costly.

02:17:31.000 Let's scroll down.

02:17:33.000 My deposition is scheduled for June 2nd.

02:17:36.000 Please support my growing legal costs here so we can hold Bill Maher accountable for his defamation.

02:17:42.000 So the deposition's tomorrow, and of course I'm going to have to probably travel for my deposition, which is coming up in June, and I have to pay for the video transcripts for this deposition tomorrow.

02:17:52.000 And so if you would like to help me hold Bill Maher accountable and you would like to support the costs associated with this legal battle, You can go to gibsongo.com slash loomerlawfare, gibsongo.com slash loomerlawfare, and this will support my general lawfare fund, you know, for when people come after me or when I have to utilize legal support.

02:18:15.000 Just a few months, just about a month or so ago, I'm sure you saw that the Soros-affiliated 1630 fund...

02:18:21.000 And the Hopewell Fund tried coming after me because of my reporting on the Tesla takedowns and the violent protests.

02:18:27.000 And so I, of course, had to have my attorney respond to that, and that cost money.

02:18:34.000 And now I'm having to get involved in very expensive litigation against Bill Maher because, well, you can't just allow people to get away with defaming you the way that Bill Maher defamed me.

02:18:48.000 If you want to support the costs associated with this litigation, again, you go to giftsandgo.com slash Loomer Lawfare, giftsandgo.com slash Loomer Lawfare.

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02:19:01.000 Let's take a couple questions before we sign off tonight.

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02:19:44.000 Somebody said, Hi Laura, what do you think about the N-word girl at the park and the money raised for her?

02:19:50.000 Look, I think people can spend their money however they want to spend their money.

02:19:53.000 People are donating to Carmelo Anthony and he murdered a white boy.

02:19:57.000 So, you know, look, there's outrage because of Carmelo Anthony's Gibson Go and there's outrage because of Shiloh Hendrix's Gibson Go.

02:20:06.000 People are free to choose how they spend their money in this country.

02:20:11.000 If it's a cause that you feel so passionate about, who am I to tell you what you can and can't donate to?

02:20:23.000 How is your new rescue dog doing with the other pups?

02:20:29.000 Oh, Teddy is doing so well.

02:20:31.000 He's so cute.

02:20:31.000 I have four dogs now.

02:20:33.000 Teddy is adjusting well.

02:20:35.000 He's trying to potty train him, and so he's been...

02:20:39.000 Undergoing crate training, and well, that's always a difficult task in itself, but Teddy's doing very well.

02:20:47.000 Thanks for asking, Marnie.

02:20:48.000 I really appreciate that.

02:20:50.000 All of the dogs are doing well.

02:20:54.000 Paige Stringer said, how are you doing, Laura?

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02:20:58.000 I'm doing all right.

02:20:59.000 You know, busy.

02:21:01.000 Always busy.

02:21:02.000 It's always something to deal with, but I'm fine.

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Loomer Unleashed - May 07, 2025

EP120: Have The Epstein Files Been Destroyed?

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