Loomer Unleashed - May 30, 2025


EP124: They're Saving The Dogs! They're Saving The Cats!


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 44 minutes

Words per Minute

134.78702

Word Count

22,150

Sentence Count

1,507

Misogynist Sentences

40

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

In this episode of Loomer Unleashed, host Laura LoLoMoer is joined by White Coat Waste, BitChute, and the Florida State Rep. Meg Weinberger (R-Florida) to discuss immigration, censorship, and animal testing.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:18:29.000 Thank you.
00:18:59.000 Thank you.
00:19:29.000 Thank you.
00:19:59.000 There is a young, Conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
00:20:28.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
00:20:35.000 She chained herself to Twitter.
00:20:36.000 She chained her...
00:20:37.000 *music*
00:21:05.000 *music*
00:21:27.000 And welcome to episode 124 of Loomer Unleashed.
00:21:31.000 I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
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00:22:22.000 A lot of conservatives like to go along and play the game, right?
00:22:26.000 So they can get invited to all the parties.
00:22:29.000 And play nice in the sandbox, as they say.
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00:22:53.000 We have three guests tonight, so stay tuned.
00:22:57.000 It's going to be a...
00:23:01.000 We have a lot to talk about.
00:23:03.000 The second hour of the show, for all my animal lovers out there, is going to be dedicated to all of the amazing legislation that is being passed right now here in the state of Florida, where I live, and also all of the efforts that are being carried out by the Trump administration to crack down on animal testing.
00:23:20.000 We're going to be joined by our friends at White Coat Waste and also by my friend, Florida State Representative.
00:23:27.000 Meg Weinberger, who's going to talk about her animal cruelty law that Ron DeSantis just signed into law.
00:23:32.000 And then we're also going to be joined by our friends over at BitChute who are going to talk to us about the draconian efforts in the UK, which will undoubtedly make their way here to the United States unless we start cracking down on big tech censorship and censorious regimes and foreigners who want to censor the rights, especially the
00:24:09.000 And BitChute is refusing to do that.
00:24:12.000 And so we're going to hear from them tonight.
00:24:14.000 But I want to get started on an update to what we were talking about on Tuesday's show.
00:24:20.000 And that, of course, President Trump has decided to ban Harvard.
00:24:26.000 From enrolling foreign students, he also defunded them on the federal level.
00:24:30.000 And when the State Department and President Trump released statements about why they were going after the foreign students at Harvard, which makes up 31% of the Harvard admissions rate, if you didn't see President Trump's speech about this from the Oval Office, it's an astounding 31% of Harvard students are international, right?
00:24:50.000 Foreign visa holding students.
00:24:52.000 Pretty crazy.
00:24:53.000 That's 31% of their student body that could otherwise be American, but American students are being denied these opportunities so that hostile foreigners from China, a lot of whom are CCP spies or Islamic jihadists or people who hold anti-American sentiment, are studying at Harvard.
00:25:13.000 President Trump and the State Department announced that Under his administration, the visas of Chinese students who have affiliations with the CCP, and let's be honest, it's pretty much all of them, over 250,000 current visa holders from China studying here at universities and colleges across our country.
00:25:35.000 We have some reports on this.
00:25:37.000 U.S. to begin revoking visas for Chinese students.
00:25:39.000 I've been calling for this for a long time.
00:25:41.000 I mean, you know, here at Loomer Unleashed, we're pretty anti-China.
00:25:45.000 We're pretty anti-CCP.
00:25:47.000 And it's been a long time coming, right?
00:25:49.000 Over 250,000 Chinese students.
00:25:52.000 That's incredible.
00:25:53.000 Quarter of a million student visa holders studying in universities across our country.
00:25:59.000 Let's scroll down and take a look at this article and we can review the details in case you missed it.
00:26:04.000 The U.S. will begin revoking visas for Chinese students, Secretary of State Mark Rubio announced on Wednesday.
00:26:10.000 The big picture, the move marks a major escalation in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown and comes one day after Rubio directed a halt to student visa interviews.
00:26:20.000 One senior Trump administration official confirmed to Axios that the order applies to all students from China, noting that Rubio's announcement coincides with trade negotiations between the two countries.
00:26:31.000 Everything is connected.
00:26:34.000 This is fabulous because, let's be honest, who is sending their children to study here in the United States of America from China?
00:26:42.000 Well, CCP officials.
00:26:44.000 It's pretty crazy to think that we're in the middle of a trade war with China and they're being incredibly hostile towards the Trump administration as it relates to the ongoing trade war.
00:26:56.000 They are incredibly hostile as it relates to trade secrets.
00:27:00.000 You know, stealing information, hacking into government officials' devices, their phones.
00:27:08.000 I mean, this is ongoing, right?
00:27:10.000 And it exceeds all the way to the White House as well.
00:27:13.000 When I talk about the level of hacking, I'm talking about Chinese officials earlier in the year hacked the personal devices, the computers and the phones of Janet Yellen, you'll recall.
00:27:23.000 We can get that article up.
00:27:24.000 It's several months old, right?
00:27:26.000 But they even tried to hack White House officials.
00:27:29.000 And there's been countless reports about this, and a lot of this information hasn't been released to the public.
00:27:36.000 But it is well known that the Chinese Communist Party and the government of China is actively, I would say, on a pretty constant basis, trying to hack our databases, disrupt our infrastructure.
00:27:52.000 And dominate our technological spaces.
00:27:55.000 Brainwash our youth.
00:27:56.000 Look what they're doing with TikTok, right?
00:27:58.000 Chinese hackers access Yellen's computer and U.S. Treasury breach.
00:28:01.000 Bloomberg News reports.
00:28:03.000 This is ongoing.
00:28:05.000 The FBI actually has an entire division dedicated to cyber hacks from foreign actors.
00:28:10.000 And guess which countries are the most active as it relates to hacking U.S. devices?
00:28:16.000 The Iranians and the Chinese, right?
00:28:18.000 You could ask anybody who works at the FBI.
00:28:21.000 The Iranians and the Chinese are constantly trying to hack the devices.
00:28:26.000 You have to ask yourself, what is the point of allowing for a quarter of a million students every single year from China to study here in our country in elite institutions, taking up spots in colleges and universities where American students are now not being able to access those universities or those colleges because, well, a foreigner or a student from China is taking their spot.
00:28:50.000 Why are we allowing them to come and study in our elite institutions and get degrees and learn things in our scientific laboratories in many of these very elite institutions like Harvard, Columbia, Yale, MIT, and so on?
00:29:05.000 If they're just going to go back to China and utilize the information that they learned here in the United States of America to support the CCP or to support Islamic regimes or to work against the interests of the United States of America?
00:29:19.000 This is an asinine policy to continue to allow these people to invade our country and invade our educational institutions that are now essentially communist Marxist indoctrination camps.
00:29:32.000 Is it any wonder that colleges and universities all throughout our country are indoctrinating young people to become communists when you have 250,000 young people, young students from China, right, where You have to have devotion to the CCP in China.
00:29:50.000 You want to do business in China.
00:29:51.000 You have to support the CCP.
00:29:53.000 Do you really honestly think that when these people come to our country that they're going to lose their allegiance to the CCP?
00:29:59.000 No, they're going to take that allegiance with them.
00:30:02.000 And that is why we have been completely infiltrated and completely encapsulated in this nation by what they call the fifth column.
00:30:10.000 And so if you're not familiar with the fifth column, you need to read up on that.
00:30:14.000 We have...
00:30:22.000 CCP spokeswoman decided to post a video on X. She's not too happy about this.
00:30:28.000 Let's go ahead and play this video before we bring our guests in.
00:30:32.000 This is the spokesperson for the Chinese Communist Party.
00:30:37.000 She's the one who releases all these statements.
00:30:40.000 Her name is Lin Jian.
00:30:41.000 She releases all of the virtual statements and social media posts on X and Facebook and Instagram.
00:30:48.000 And she's very active on social media where she attacks President Trump and his policies on a daily basis.
00:30:54.000 Let's go ahead and play the clip.
00:31:20.000 和国家幸��。
00:31:50.000 You have to have this allegiance to the CCP.
00:31:53.000 And so it's pretty safe to assume that You know, if you're here on a student visa from China, you are acting as an agent of the CCP.
00:32:01.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number seven.
00:32:04.000 And this should shock no one.
00:32:06.000 So the report came out.
00:32:07.000 It said, right now, in the United States of America, at one of our universities, there is an organized, orchestrated spy ring.
00:32:15.000 To put this in perspective, when I got here, I said, when I was told that there was a Chinese law in place that required Chinese nationals, including students that come to the United States on visas, and by the way, we take 300,000 Chinese students a year into our universities, there's a law in the books that says they have to provide intelligence gathering and information to the CCP.
00:32:37.000 We also had information in Congress before I even got here that they were setting up these programs to organize spies and push them into our universities using visas.
00:32:47.000 And when I got here and realized that there was no law stopping the visa program, even though we had that information, I immediately launched a bill that would end visas for Chinese students.
00:32:57.000 Now, nothing against Chinese students that want to learn.
00:33:00.000 But if you have a government that is enlisting them, and not just enlisting them, requiring them by law.
00:33:05.000 Under penalty to be espionage agents when they get here, we cannot keep inviting them into our nation.
00:33:12.000 And so time after time over the last few years, we have found Chinese students with drones, cameras on our military bases, stealing information at our universities, and nothing has been done.
00:33:27.000 So when this report came out two days ago, I was, Now, hopefully, we will see some action not only by the university that's been informed of this, where there's students saying it's happening, but by the government to do an investigation.
00:33:52.000 A lot more people should be talking about this.
00:33:55.000 And one of the people who's extremely outraged over the fact that President Trump has revoked these visas from Chinese students is the president of Harvard.
00:34:04.000 And of course, the president of Harvard is reacting in this manner because, well, President Trump not only defunded Harvard on the federal level, but he banned them from enrolling all foreign students, let alone Chinese students.
00:34:15.000 And so we have this clip from the Harvard president.
00:34:18.000 And a lot of people don't know this.
00:34:20.000 It's something that I've been really blowing the whistle on.
00:34:23.000 Xi Jinping, right?
00:34:24.000 The leader of the Communist Party of China.
00:34:27.000 His daughter actually went to Harvard.
00:34:29.000 And Loomer Unleashed has discovered that his daughter still actually lives in Massachusetts with her husband, where she is actively protected by PLA.
00:34:40.000 Officers, right?
00:34:41.000 People's Liberation Army officers, the military branch of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:34:45.000 So the fact that they're able to have their own communist police force here on U.S. soil protecting the daughter of Xi Jinping, who attended Harvard, and now Harvard wants to criticize Trump for revoking Chinese visas, well, you know, it's part of the problem, right?
00:35:00.000 Why did Harvard even allow for Xi Jinping's daughter?
00:35:02.000 In what world are we in a...
00:35:16.000 That's why I personally called for her deportation.
00:35:19.000 The story's gone viral.
00:35:20.000 It's all over Newsmax.
00:35:21.000 Before we bring our next guest in, we're just going to play this clip of Harvard president calling, well, criticizing President Trump for revoking Chinese visas.
00:35:33.000 Spanning literature and art, labor and gender, dynamic in devotion to building community, she sees that making waves can help raise the tide.
00:35:48.000 Elaine H. Kim, Doctor of Laws.
00:35:53.000 Thank you.
00:36:09.000 Well, it appears that part of that clip may have been cut off.
00:36:11.000 We're going to play the rest of the clip for you later.
00:36:13.000 But it was a whole clip about the Harvard president criticizing President Trump for revoking these Chinese student visas.
00:36:20.000 So perhaps that got mixed up when we were doing all the prep for the show earlier.
00:36:24.000 But there's a longer clip of the president of Harvard criticizing President Trump for revoking these Chinese visas.
00:36:30.000 And ultimately, Harvard needs to exercise some personal accountability.
00:36:34.000 As we showed you on the show on Tuesday night, Harvard has been involved in many scandals involving the CCP, including one of their own lab employees who was indicted by the DOJ and was secretly getting paid $50,000 a month to share secrets with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:36:51.000 So, Harvard cannot pretend to be oblivious to this.
00:36:56.000 They allow for Xi Jinping's daughter to attend university classes there, and they also have had some of their own staff and students indicted for acting as agents of the CCP.
00:37:08.000 Pretty, pretty serious situation.
00:37:12.000 It's not just Harvard.
00:37:13.000 Harvard is probably the most glaring example, right?
00:37:16.000 Because they are known as the most elite institution in our country.
00:37:19.000 But every single college or university in our country has problems with their international students.
00:37:26.000 I mean, we've seen this all across our country, especially with the rise of the anti-Semitic pro-Palestinian movement.
00:37:32.000 We saw it at Columbia.
00:37:33.000 We've seen it at state colleges, community colleges.
00:37:36.000 It doesn't matter.
00:37:37.000 The Ivy Leagues, of course, get the most attention because it's been sensationalized.
00:37:41.000 Rightfully so, by members of Congress because we send the Ivy League billions of dollars of our taxpayer money every single year.
00:37:47.000 But whether it's Muslim jihadi students chanting, kill all Jews, long live Hamas, as we documented on the campus of Columbia, or it's CCP spies operating out of the science labs at Harvard.
00:38:00.000 You know, the daughter of the leader of the Chinese Communist Party attending classes at Harvard.
00:38:05.000 This is a systemic problem that really has been happening for decades in our country.
00:38:11.000 And President Trump is the only one who has the courage to address it and the only president that has the courage to put a stop to it.
00:38:17.000 And so we thank President Trump for that.
00:38:20.000 All right.
00:38:21.000 Joining me now to discuss the Online Safety Act and the continued suppression of free speech and the censorship regime that is being carried out in Europe, especially in the United Kingdom, is Jeffrey Wernick, longtime friend of mine, but also a diehard free speech advocate, probably one of the biggest fighters in our country, one of the biggest financial backers of free speech platforms and free speech advocacy.
00:38:45.000 He's also a private investor for BitChute, which is one of the only, in addition to Rumble, of course, true free speech platforms out there.
00:38:55.000 So, Jeffrey, it's great to have you on the program tonight.
00:38:58.000 Thanks so much for joining me.
00:39:00.000 Hi, Laura.
00:39:01.000 It's really nice to see you again.
00:39:03.000 I think many people don't know that you and I have a relationship dating back maybe seven, eight years.
00:39:10.000 Yeah.
00:39:10.000 I've known you for a long time and you've always been true to the cause.
00:39:16.000 You know, you're a very humble guy, I will say.
00:39:19.000 Your name's not out there in the media every single day, but for those of you who aren't familiar with Jeffrey, he's one of the biggest supporters and biggest backers and really one of the biggest defenders of free speech and a lot of your favorite platforms that many of you use.
00:39:36.000 Especially Parler.
00:39:37.000 Unfortunately, Parler was completely destroyed in the aftermath of J6.
00:39:41.000 But when Big Tech was beginning their censorship regime and their crusade to silence and deplatform conservatives and Trump supporters, Jeffrey was one of the main financial supporters and investors in a lot of this technology to support free speech platforms.
00:39:58.000 He supported my congressional campaign when I was the first and only deplatformed candidate running for Congress in the nation.
00:40:05.000 And he has continued to invest his own personal money and wealth into fighting for the free speech rights of all of you watching, right?
00:40:13.000 So that you can fight back against big tech censorship.
00:40:16.000 So thank you, Jeffrey.
00:40:17.000 Thank you for those kind words.
00:40:19.000 And yes, I think for people who don't know who I am, which is probably almost everybody watching, you know, and I don't recall if you were the one that facilitated the initial contact with Andrew Torbett, Gab.
00:40:34.000 But, you know, I began communications in 2019 with both Andrew Torber at GAB and John Mates at Parler.
00:40:43.000 And you and I had a lot of conversations regarding your efforts to help both Gab and Parler grow.
00:40:53.000 And at the point in time when I first got involved, You were the most influential person on Parler.
00:41:03.000 And there was nobody more committed to helping Parler grow than you in the beginning of 2020, when nobody was paying attention to Parler.
00:41:11.000 You were one of the few people that were paying attention to Parler and really put a lot of time and effort.
00:41:16.000 And you were always accessible to communicate with and share ideas of what we can do to help together have Parler grow.
00:41:27.000 I funded GAB, which I'm pretty sure, again, the introduction was from you.
00:41:32.000 And at that point in time, Torber came to me saying that he needed money for independent servers and also to bring in some engineers that wanted to see a stronger balance sheet.
00:41:45.000 So I don't remember.
00:41:47.000 I think I gave about $600,000.
00:41:49.000 Whatever he asked for is what I gave, and I didn't even do any.
00:41:53.000 Really significant due diligence, except to the extent to see his commitment to free speech.
00:41:59.000 So it's not like I did a lot of business due diligence.
00:42:01.000 And the same with Parler.
00:42:02.000 My investment was not a financial investment, you know, even though I gave money, but I was investing in a movement to the people who at that point in time seemed the most committed to, you know, free speech absolutism.
00:42:17.000 So I gave money at almost the same time to Paula and Gab, and the people at Gab knew I gave to Paula, and the people at Paula knew I gave to Gab, so this was very, very transparent.
00:42:30.000 And when I got involved, Gab was really not very interested in my mentorship, just my money.
00:42:52.000 and Parler, you know, encouraged my involvement, and that's why you and I had a lot of conversations.
00:43:00.000 And basically, I chose to disassociate myself with Parler in 2021 when Parler made the decision to try and appease Apple.
00:43:10.000 I had no interest in appeasing Apple because I was not going to relinquish my principles with respect to free speech, and I was not prepared to accept the type of I could understand why Parler made the decision to do that.
00:43:31.000 It was a business decision, and they thought it was in the best interest of the business, but I was always more interested in the movement than the business, so I was not as interested in the business, so I wasn't as interested in staying around.
00:43:47.000 And then because of...
00:43:50.000 I guess whatever limited reputation I achieved through my involvement and engagement in Parler, the people in Bitshoot, when they needed money, reached out to me and I introduced them to a few friends, and we all put money into Bitshoot.
00:44:08.000 And you've always been a great help, and you are, I think, with respect to You say what you mean and you mean what you say.
00:44:30.000 I know we've had a lot of conversations about some of the people that I used to call free speech frauds, which I think are most of the free speech advocates, I think, are free speech frauds.
00:44:41.000 And I also have high regard for Chris at Rumble, actually.
00:44:46.000 Chris and I are partners in a business, the parallel economy payment processing.
00:44:51.000 Yeah, Chris loves you.
00:44:52.000 I remember when I told him, I said, oh, you know, I brought your name up one day.
00:44:56.000 I was like, you know Jeffrey Wernick?
00:44:58.000 And he was like, oh my God, you know Jeffrey Wernick?
00:45:00.000 So yeah, Chris is great.
00:45:01.000 He's doing fabulous work.
00:45:02.000 And Chris is also very committed and is somebody who's not backing down.
00:45:06.000 And I know that he could have had a lot.
00:45:10.000 A lot easier time, right, with the business of Rumble had he made concessions, but he has really fought the good fight and has been ostracized in some social circles.
00:45:23.000 I know Chris and I talk about this often, but it's because he really is a true free speech absolutist.
00:45:28.000 Rumble, along with Bitchu, and now, I guess, X, well, hasn't always been the case, right?
00:45:35.000 Especially after I pissed Elon Musk off.
00:45:38.000 It's really the only sites that people can find me on because I still remain banned on every other site.
00:45:44.000 I mean, you're not going to find me on Facebook and I don't use YouTube because they completely silenced me and have demonetized me.
00:45:51.000 And so Bitch Shoot Rumble is really the only two true free speech absolutist platforms.
00:45:58.000 And then, of course, X has made a lot of headway.
00:46:03.000 Being more committed to free speech, but you will definitely not find a greater level of free speech than what you will find on BitChute and Rumble.
00:46:14.000 Yes.
00:46:15.000 I have a lot of respect for Chris, and he's been a great partner in the parallel economy.
00:46:19.000 So it's great to be partners with him, and I have, you know, really tremendous respect for Chris and really much congratulations to him for all that he's accomplished at Rumble.
00:46:31.000 But I appreciate you giving me this time, you know, to talk about the Online Safety Act.
00:46:37.000 Many people watching might be saying, "Why am I talking to an American audience about the suppression of free speech in the UK?" The reason is pretty simple.
00:46:54.000 BitChute made a decision, you know, at my urging but ultimately supported by all the partners that when the Online Safety Act began to be implemented, you know, when we got notifications at BitChute and that notification was shared with me, that I felt that the regime of surveillance and suppression of free speech.
00:47:18.000 was a regime that I told Bitchute that we should not be a part of, you know, and we had a discussion that really was not a long discussion because we reached a consensus pretty quickly that that may be the best way to fight back against these laws.
00:47:33.000 And, you know, and I have great respect for the speech that, you know, J.D. Vance gave in Germany where he talked about how European nations
00:48:02.000 And freedom of speech and freedom of reach.
00:48:06.000 And so the administration is also trying to take its stand and trying to negotiate it as part of the trade negotiations.
00:48:14.000 But ultimately, I think in a sovereign country made up of sovereign individuals, ultimately the power resides.
00:48:25.000 Within the people, and I think it's a matter of that we shouldn't wait for government to do things, even if the government wants to do the right thing.
00:48:32.000 You know, sometimes we have to take things in our own hands, and the decision we made at BitChute was after examining the law, we decided that the best way to respond to the law is we shut BitChute off for the UK audience.
00:48:53.000 But for viewing content, because if we accepted the regime, then I view us as being a collaborator or an enabler of the regime.
00:49:05.000 At some point, you have to take a stand and say, I'm not going to do this because even though BitChute was founded by two UK nationals and has a large UK audience, so I think we might have lost.
00:49:19.000 Can you explain to some people?
00:49:22.000 Because I know that J.D. Vance highlighted this when he gave his speech in front of European Union officials and he really condemned them heavily.
00:49:32.000 It was like watching a parent give a child a spanking.
00:49:36.000 Kind of spanked them on the global stage over their actions to censor speech.
00:49:42.000 But can you just explain to people some of the draconian aspects of the Online Safety Act?
00:49:47.000 Because, of course, it's always a game of semantics where they try to say things like, oh, we're doing this to protect children from harmful online content.
00:49:54.000 So that your average person thinks, well, of course we want to protect children from harm, right?
00:49:59.000 But it's a lot more sinister than that because when they talk about protecting children from harm, right, this also extends to adults.
00:50:07.000 And this isn't just about, you know, hiding pornographic content or things like that.
00:50:12.000 No, they're talking about hate speech and what they perceive as hateful conduct.
00:50:18.000 And we know that if you misgender somebody in the UK, you can actually be fined and sent to prison.
00:50:22.000 And if you say something offensive about somebody's religion or their ethnic community, background in the UK, you can also spend time in prison.
00:50:30.000 We just saw Tommy Robinson get released from prison in the UK two days ago for making a documentary about a Syrian Muslim migrant who was involved in a bullying scandal in the UK.
00:50:44.000 And so whether you're a journalist like Tommy Robinson is, I've seen stories about young mothers who had to go to jail because they accidentally misgendered someone and then child protective services took their children from them.
00:50:56.000 You really have a very draconian speech system that is governed by the UK government and there So two things.
00:51:12.000 I want you to explain what the Online Safety Act is doing in a censorious manner, and then also what the role of Ofcom is and what their actions toward BitChute.
00:51:24.000 Ofcom is responsible for implementing the Online Safety Act.
00:51:28.000 And the Online Safety Act basically, as quite often, you know, Parliamentary or legislative bodies do, you know, they say, they write something.
00:51:37.000 I mean, you think about, like, in the U.S., what was the Obamacare was known as the Affordable Care Act.
00:51:42.000 You know, only health care became less affordable, you know, and less accessible, but they still call it the Affordable Care Act.
00:51:50.000 So I think politicians always do a good job of naming things that don't really represent what the bills actually accomplish, but they put a...
00:52:02.000 they try and put lipstick on a pig by putting a nice name on it you know but the online safety act is basically
00:52:19.000 The part about with respect to minors was irrelevant to BitChute because I think the minimum age for downloading and interacting with BitChute is 16-year-old, so it's not like there are minors on and BitChute bans pornography.
00:52:34.000 We didn't exit because we were concerned about those aspects.
00:52:38.000 But because we know that the Online Safety Act, while that's the name, it wants to keep the ruling class safe from criticism.
00:52:49.000 The ones who want to be protected are them, not the people.
00:52:54.000 So they want to protect themselves from any sort of narrative.
00:53:00.000 That represents a threat to, you know, the narrative that they want to dominate, you know, and like we experienced during the COVID period, you know, when people got banned for, you know, that medicine was Fauci, and if you were not Fauci, then you were a fake scientist, and you were not allowed to post content, and, you know, you were called all sorts of horrible names, deplatformed, demonetized, and, you know, we did that under a state emergency.
00:53:29.000 Think about how the type of banning that was going on and censorship that was going on during the COVID period by platforms.
00:53:39.000 the Online Safety Act takes that and puts it on steroids and implements it the whole time.
00:53:44.000 So basically it gives And if you don't remove content that they think is inappropriate, you know, that they will then impose very large fines on you.
00:54:00.000 So we did not exit at BitChute because we were concerned about the fines.
00:54:05.000 We just don't want to cooperate with the government.
00:54:07.000 We think the only way to and then suddenly they're banning thousands of people, you know, because they're testing.
00:54:32.000 If I can get away with this, let me see, let me check the boundary and see what more I can get away with, and let me check the boundary.
00:54:38.000 And you and I had a lot of conversations about that, is that the people who didn't defend you when you were banned might find one day that they're banned and they're not going to be happy about them being banned while they remain silent when you were banned, which is why it's so important.
00:54:52.000 Once one person is banned, it's so important to speak out because it shouldn't be about whether we like or dislike that person.
00:54:59.000 What we should dislike is the concept of banning people because they say something that's offensive.
00:55:04.000 The whole reason we have a free speech is the fact is that We need to protect the speech that actually is offensive because if not, we wouldn't need an amendment regarding free speech, you know, to protect speech that people like listening to.
00:55:19.000 So what we need to protect, what needs most protection, is the speech we don't like.
00:55:25.000 So that's what needs protection.
00:55:27.000 So that's the whole point of free speech is to challenge us to accept things that make us feel uncomfortable.
00:55:33.000 And the Online Safety Act empowers Ofcom to remove all content, you know, that will make...
00:55:47.000 Have you had any conversations with the State Department about how their new statement that they released two days ago regarding their new plan to revoke the visas or block the travel of foreigners to the United States of America who censor Americans?
00:56:04.000 I don't know if you saw this, but this was a new policy implemented by the State Department.
00:56:10.000 Perhaps, you know, the State Department could issue letters targeting the representatives of Ofcom, right, or the creators of the Online Safety Act to let them know that if they continue this censorious behavior, that they are also not going to be able to travel to the United States because BitChute, as you said, as a large UK audience, but you have people all over the world that utilize BitChute, including American citizens.
00:56:35.000 And so I would think that that would fall under the...
00:56:48.000 But we had, what we've done at BitChute is we're allowing anyone to put up content from the UK, but whatever content they put up can be seen everywhere except the UK.
00:56:59.000 Right, but in your conversations with...
00:57:15.000 I think my skepticism of it, one is I'm apolitical.
00:57:18.000 So I like to take responsibility myself rather than ask other people to solve my problems.
00:57:24.000 So I'm not big in, I don't want government solving my problems.
00:57:27.000 I want to solve my own problems.
00:57:29.000 So, you know, since I'm, as you're aware, I have anarchistic tendencies.
00:57:37.000 You know, I'm an anarcho-capitalist or a crypto-anarchist, since you know I've been.
00:57:45.000 I've been a long-time holder of Bitcoin.
00:57:47.000 I'm a hodler.
00:57:49.000 You know, I'm an accumulator on a high level of Bitcoin.
00:57:52.000 And so I believe in a limited...
00:58:01.000 So I generally like to solve my own problems rather than solicit government's help because I think that's what it means to be a sovereign individual, is you don't make your problem other people's problems.
00:58:11.000 So, and I see it hard to implement.
00:58:15.000 You know, independent of that, you know, I also see it hard to implement.
00:58:18.000 I think it's nice intentions, but, you know, ultimately, you know, this legislation gets authorized by the prime minister.
00:58:26.000 So it gets voted on by the Parliament.
00:58:28.000 You can't blame the bureaucrats who are responsible for implementing legislation that the law requires them to implement.
00:58:35.000 You know, their job is to implement what they're told they're implemented, you know, and that's their job.
00:58:40.000 So, you know, it's the same perception that, you know, the Trump administration expects or any administration expense from, you know, their quote, bureaucracy is Their job is to execute.
00:58:58.000 So Ofcom is there to execute.
00:59:00.000 Of course, Ofcom has been given extraordinary powers with respect to the discretion they have on how they execute it.
00:59:07.000 But ultimately, who conveyed that power to them was the British Parliament and the British Prime Minister.
00:59:14.000 So who are you going to hold responsible for?
00:59:17.000 Are you going to hold the British Prime Minister responsible?
00:59:20.000 And not allow the British Prime Minister to come to, you know, the U.S. while you're trying to negotiate a trade deal.
00:59:27.000 I mean, I don't think it's, you know, who's known also for looking to ban a lot of content, you know, is Modi in India.
00:59:38.000 Is Rubio going to ban Modi from coming to the United States?
00:59:42.000 So I see the implementation very hard because you really can't blame the bureaucrat who's doing what they're instructed to do.
00:59:50.000 And if they don't do it, they'll get fired and somebody else will come and replace them to do it.
00:59:54.000 So the question is, who should be held responsible for it?
00:59:57.000 What I'm calling for is that every other platform should do what BitChute did, is boycott the UK.
01:00:05.000 So that's what I'm here on your show, and I'm so appreciative of you giving me this opportunity, but I'm calling on Chris, on Elon Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg, and every other platform out there to boycott the UK.
01:00:23.000 I believe if everyone took the same stand as We're not going to be a collaborator with you.
01:00:36.000 We're not going to be an enabler of this law.
01:00:39.000 Instead, we're exiting the market.
01:00:41.000 If every one of these platforms exited the market, I think the UK people would be so upset at having no access to Twitter, no access to Rumble, no access to True Social.
01:00:54.000 Have you had any conversations with anybody from, well, I mean, you know Chris, obviously, you're friends with Chris, but have you had any conversations with Rumble or any Truth Social executives or anybody from X to discuss a coordinated boycott?
01:01:09.000 I'm hoping that they will watch the show tonight and they'll think it's a good idea.
01:01:15.000 We'll clip it.
01:01:16.000 We're going to clip it and we'll tag Elon, we'll tag Chris and we'll get it to everybody over at True Social too.
01:01:22.000 That's the appeal I want to make is for all the platforms.
01:01:25.000 We need to stop this, okay?
01:01:27.000 If we really believe in free speech, the question is what are we willing to sacrifice to support free speech?
01:01:33.000 Now, has this cost, you know, BitChute money to sacrifice its, you know, user engagement by having people who are actively engaged, no longer actively engaged?
01:01:43.000 Yes, we have.
01:01:44.000 Does that bother us?
01:01:45.000 We really know because we think we're fighting, you know, a good principled fight and so we didn't make a business decision.
01:01:52.000 We made a principled decision because we have to put a stop to these regimes and the only way to stop the regimes, in my opinion, is to boycott them.
01:02:01.000 You have to take responsibility yourself.
01:02:03.000 If the problem is important to you, you don't wait for somebody else to solve the problem.
01:02:09.000 You take responsibility yourself.
01:02:11.000 Of course, if help wants to come along, it's welcome, you know, so to the extent that anyone who wants to help in this process, they're more than welcome.
01:02:18.000 So if, you know, everything that the Trump administration is attempting to do, you know, to have voices not silenced, you know, I support and I respect and I appreciate, but I'm not deferring to them or any other third party.
01:02:34.000 I'm not delegating to any third party to fight.
01:02:38.000 I'm taking the fight on myself and I'm appealing to other people to join in that fight with me.
01:02:44.000 We should boycott the UK and we should boycott every regime that attempts to do.
01:02:50.000 As long as we don't act, you know, if we act together, okay, every platform acts together, okay, we can beat these laws.
01:03:00.000 But if we don't act together, the laws will beat us.
01:03:04.000 I agree with you.
01:03:06.000 We have a video here, too, from the founder and the CEO of BitChute, Ray Vahey, talking about Ofcom and the decision of BitChute to boycott the UK.
01:03:17.000 So I want to go ahead and play this for everybody.
01:03:18.000 Ofcom continues to contact us about their censorship and surveillance regulation in what we see as a blatant effort to make us compromise our principles, which we will never do.
01:03:31.000 Our reply to Ofcom is linked below this video.
01:03:34.000 They have come up with what we believe is an absurd and ridiculous definition of user-to-user platform, seemingly looking to bring whoever they choose into their regime and make every platform subject to it.
01:03:49.000 Let me be clear.
01:03:50.000 We will not allow Ofcom any pretext, no matter how absurd, to subject us to their regime.
01:03:58.000 We believe no one should.
01:04:00.000 This regime is so hostile to free speech and privacy that every platform should leave the UK, not only to protect UK users, but to protect users worldwide.
01:04:12.000 BitChute has operated in the UK for years, but now the only moral solution is to leave.
01:04:18.000 This is a choice between freedom and totalitarianism.
01:04:22.000 Continuing to operate under Ofcom and the OSA can only bring us closer to the latter.
01:04:29.000 Tell other platforms, do not be an enabler.
01:04:33.000 Do not be a collaborator.
01:04:35.000 By remaining in the UK, they are subjecting you, their users all around the world, to this censorship and surveillance.
01:04:44.000 If enough platforms leave, the UK government will have no choice but to back down.
01:04:51.000 Thank you to everyone who has supported us.
01:04:54.000 We won't give in.
01:04:56.000 We are committed to upholding free speech and privacy.
01:05:00.000 Help us spread this message.
01:05:02.000 And I just retweeted that video.
01:05:08.000 So for all of you who are watching this stream live right now, help them spread their message.
01:05:12.000 You can also retweet that video.
01:05:14.000 You can also get a BitChute account.
01:05:17.000 I have a BitChute account.
01:05:19.000 I feel like there's anything you can really do to get banned on Bitchute.
01:05:22.000 I mean, really, truly, if you want to have a free speech platform, Bitchute is a platform for you.
01:05:26.000 Of course, Rumble is also a very pro-free speech platform.
01:05:31.000 But in terms of true free speech absolutism, as I said, Bitchute and Rumble are really the only two free speech absolutist platforms out there.
01:05:41.000 I think that.
01:05:45.000 I'm grateful that I have my X platform again.
01:05:47.000 But given my own experiences on X, especially over the last few months when everybody saw me very publicly get demonetized and shadow banned for simply criticizing Elon Musk, I would not say that X is a true free speech absolutist platform.
01:06:02.000 I think that Elon has made great strides in exposing the Twitter files and giving a lot of people who were previously banned access to their accounts again.
01:06:13.000 Comply with a lot of rules, especially to appease advertisers, and that's not the definition of free speech absolutism.
01:06:20.000 Now, he has a business to run, and that's his choice.
01:06:22.000 That's not necessarily a criticism.
01:06:24.000 That's just a fact.
01:06:26.000 And so, as it relates to true free speech absolutism, Rumble and Bitchute are your best options.
01:06:32.000 Jeffrey, any last words?
01:06:34.000 Any last comments?
01:06:36.000 What's your call to action to the viewers?
01:06:38.000 We have about 45,000 live viewers right now who are watching who can take action.
01:06:44.000 I know a lot of people who follow me live in the UK, live abroad.
01:06:47.000 What is your parting words for people watching and how they can encourage their lawmakers to speak out against this?
01:06:57.000 I would encourage everyone to get VPNs so they can take more control over their privacy and make it harder for governments to figure out where they're domiciled.
01:07:15.000 And through VPNs, they could have greater freedom of access to platforms because they can mask their locations.
01:07:26.000 So I encourage everybody to take as many measures as they can to protect Their privacy and not let people geolocate them.
01:07:35.000 So that's the first message that I think people should take.
01:07:38.000 I think everybody who really cares about this should be writing whoever their representatives are, you know, and making their voice get heard that, you know, it's not a matter of Depriving people of their free speech.
01:07:51.000 They're also depriving people, the people who want to listen to that speech, of listening to something that they might find interesting.
01:07:57.000 And government should have no role in interfering with the communications on peer-to-peer communications.
01:08:03.000 And I think that people should be very outspoken about the fact is that the only effective way to deal with what people talk about as being hate speech is more speech.
01:08:15.000 So you don't solve the problem.
01:08:17.000 You know, I think practically speaking, I think, you know, many people think there's a growth of hate speech, and I think there's a correlation between the growth of hate speech and the growth of censorship.
01:08:28.000 So, you know, it's not like somebody wakes up and says, gee, you know, I have these feelings and I'm expressing my honest feelings, you know, and now I'm going to feel better.
01:08:38.000 You know, knowing that I've been deplatformed and demonetized and dehumanized and demonized, and that's going to make me feel better and make me a better human being.
01:08:46.000 No, it's counterproductive.
01:08:48.000 So I think as a tactic, as a principle, it's wrong.
01:08:53.000 and as a tactic it's counterproductive so so so so that they so that these platforms you know so we should keep
01:09:12.000 We should compete in the competition for ideas, in the marketplace of ideas, and when somebody has a bad idea, you point it out, and hopefully you can win the debate of ideas, and if we're going to have a civil society, we don't have a civil society by shutting people up.
01:09:28.000 We have a civil society by never stopping to engage in discourse.
01:09:33.000 And that's what Bid Shoot represents.
01:09:35.000 And that's clearly the values I have had because, you know, I'm the only person out there who has funded three of – You know, I'm the only one that's put up money into platforms nobody else would write a check for.
01:09:50.000 And so I'm very passionate about this, as Laura well knows.
01:09:56.000 And I really, and I think people who believe in free speech should support every free speech platform.
01:10:02.000 They should be on Rumble.
01:10:05.000 You know, my advice, my last words are this.
01:10:08.000 Be on every platform that accepts Laura Luma.
01:10:11.000 And don't support any platform that doesn't accept Oraluma.
01:10:14.000 That's my last piece of advice.
01:10:17.000 Yeah, so basically, X, bitch, shoot, and rumble.
01:10:22.000 And who knows how long I'll last on X, right?
01:10:24.000 So, exactly.
01:10:26.000 Jeffrey, thank you so much for coming on.
01:10:29.000 If people want to create BitChute accounts, where do they go?
01:10:32.000 How do they follow you?
01:10:34.000 And what's the best way that they can continue following updates from BitChute as they continue to fight for free speech on a global level?
01:10:42.000 I think the best place is to go to bit shoot calm and Open up an account.
01:10:48.000 I Don't I don't post content, so It's hard to follow me so because I don't really I So I like to engage in conversation with my friends on a personal basis, but I don't really enjoy so much the impersonal dialogue.
01:11:10.000 You know, here I'm happy to be here because, Laura, you and I have been friends for And you're authentic in a world of people who are inauthentic.
01:11:20.000 And so I have great appreciation.
01:11:22.000 Independent of whatever his ideology is, you know, what I most appreciate in people is authenticity and you're authentic.
01:11:29.000 So people should just go to bitshoot.com, and they should follow Laura Loom, among others, and Ray Vehe, the founder on Bitshoot.
01:11:41.000 And if you have any questions or need to ask, Yeah.
01:11:48.000 And you can see on the bottom of the screen here, live on the show, we have a BitChute ticker.
01:11:53.000 And we have for a long time now.
01:11:56.000 And that's where people can go if they want to see my BitChute channel as well.
01:11:59.000 BitChute.com slash Laura Loomer.
01:12:01.000 Every single episode of this show is updated to upload it and updated every single episode on BitChute's website.
01:12:08.000 So definitely check it out if you haven't already done so.
01:12:12.000 It's a great platform.
01:12:14.000 Jeffrey, thank you so much for coming on tonight.
01:12:16.000 I really appreciate it.
01:12:17.000 You're always welcome to come on the show anytime you want to talk about these issues.
01:12:23.000 And I really appreciate everything that you and Ray are doing to fight for free speech.
01:12:27.000 Thank you so much, Laura.
01:12:28.000 You're very generous.
01:12:30.000 Yeah, thank you.
01:12:30.000 I really appreciate it.
01:12:31.000 Have a great night.
01:12:32.000 Thank you.
01:12:33.000 Bye.
01:12:34.000 Bye.
01:12:36.000 So there you have it, you guys.
01:12:37.000 And you may think that, oh, well, you know, I don't live in the UK.
01:12:40.000 Why should I care about this?
01:12:42.000 Because what is happening in the UK could come to our country, too.
01:12:45.000 We're very grateful that President Trump, we're very lucky that President Trump won this election.
01:12:50.000 Because if President Trump had not won the 2024 presidential election, I can guarantee you, I can promise you that we would have seen.
01:12:58.000 Very similar policies like the UK's Online Safety Act implemented here in the United States.
01:13:04.000 We already know that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris wanted to have misinformation czars.
01:13:09.000 They wanted to crack down on free speech.
01:13:11.000 And in fact, they did crack down on free speech.
01:13:14.000 It's all starting to come out now, right?
01:13:16.000 We saw just a few days ago that Tulsi Gabbard over at DNI released a confirmation confirming the fact that the Biden administration did, in fact, designate a lot of the doctors and people who were blowing the whistle on alternative therapies to treat COVID.
01:13:34.000 People who were opposed to the vaccine, they classified them as extremists, as terrorists.
01:13:39.000 And they they actually asked.
01:13:52.000 We already know this.
01:13:54.000 Elon Musk exposed this.
01:13:55.000 We had testimony from Mark Zuckerberg.
01:13:57.000 So it's all out there.
01:13:59.000 It's not a conspiracy theory.
01:14:00.000 And I can guarantee you that if it weren't for President Trump and J.D. Vance, they would have absolutely implemented their own online safety act.
01:14:08.000 We would have seen the complete death of free speech in America.
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01:21:01.000 And I had heard of things that they had done, right?
01:21:04.000 Like exposing Fauci and all the experiments with the beagles and the labs.
01:21:08.000 But I really wasn't too familiar with White Coat Waste as a whole.
01:21:11.000 And over the last few months, I have really become quite friendly, right?
01:21:17.000 Consider them my friends.
01:21:18.000 I've collaborated with them and had them on the show several times.
01:21:22.000 And it's pretty amazing.
01:21:25.000 What can happen, right?
01:21:27.000 When you cross paths with people and you never know who you're going to meet.
01:21:30.000 You never know what's going to happen when you meet a new person.
01:21:33.000 And I think it's just so beautiful.
01:21:35.000 One of my favorite things about having access to such a large platform and being free to say what I want to say and not working for a corporate entity and not working for the mainstream media is I'm allowed to report on whatever I want to report on.
01:21:49.000 I'm allowed to decide anytime I want to go live what I want to do.
01:21:54.000 One of the things I really have been focused on covering here at Loomer Unleashed over the last few months is the federal funding of animal abuse with your taxpayer dollars.
01:22:06.000 And $20 billion a year of U.S. tax dollars go towards funding abusive torture experiments on cats and dogs in taxpayers.
01:22:22.000 And it's happening not just at NIH headquarters, but it's also happening at laboratories all across the country.
01:22:29.000 And many of these laboratories, as we have exposed with our friends over at White Coat Waste, are located at a lot of these universities that President Trump is speaking out against.
01:22:39.000 So I want to thank President Trump because while he's cracking down federally on the funding of a lot of these He's universities engaged in anti-American, anti-Semitic activities.
01:22:50.000 He's also cracking down on a lot of the funding of the animal abuse experiments that are happening and happening in many of these facilities.
01:22:59.000 And so joining me now to discuss a lot of.
01:23:09.000 Very exciting week.
01:23:10.000 We have so much content to go through tonight because it's just been win after win after win as it relates to getting bans on animal testing, getting animal welfare legislation passed this week.
01:23:23.000 Joining me now to discuss all of this is the founder and CEO of White Coat Waste, Anthony Bellotti.
01:23:29.000 Anthony, thanks so much for joining me tonight.
01:23:31.000 It's great to have you.
01:23:33.000 It's your furry friend.
01:23:34.000 Who's that cutie?
01:23:36.000 Well, hey, Laura.
01:23:37.000 It's great to be here.
01:23:38.000 Thank you for having us.
01:23:39.000 And this here is Delilah.
01:23:44.000 This is Delilah and she is a survivor of one of those federal animal labs that you just aptly described.
01:23:53.000 It's the $20 billion torture chambers, $20 billion a year of tax money that our government Delilah is formerly government ID number 87. You can see it in her ear.
01:24:10.000 In both of her ears, bilateral tattoos, number 87. And she didn't come from just any cat laboratory.
01:24:20.000 She's a survivor of what was the largest cat lab in the entire federal government.
01:24:26.000 And in President Trump's last administration, White Coat Waste ran the campaign that exposed it and closed it.
01:24:32.000 And my best friend is alive and here with us today.
01:24:38.000 Thanks a lot to President Trump's leadership.
01:24:41.000 And we're extending those victories now in the second administration.
01:24:46.000 Bigger, better, more.
01:24:48.000 And just losing track of time, 48 hours ago, it's been Another massive victory for pets in laboratories, cats and dogs at the Department of the Navy.
01:25:03.000 We just earned and secured a policy to ban testing on cats and dogs in taxpayer-funded labs via the U.S. Navy.
01:25:13.000 And this was announced while I was live on air.
01:25:16.000 So I was, you know, live on air on Tuesday evening when this announcement came out and my phone kept ringing and it was the secretary, well, it was the Press Secretary and the Chief of Staff for the Secretary of the Navy under the Trump administration.
01:25:32.000 And I was like, oh my God, I didn't have the number saved in my phone.
01:25:35.000 I was like, oh my God, who's calling me?
01:25:37.000 I'm live on air right now.
01:25:38.000 And so people would have seen me saying, oh, people are calling me live on air.
01:25:42.000 Why are people calling me?
01:25:43.000 I'm live on air.
01:25:45.000 And it was because they were calling to say that the exclusive reporting here on Loomer Unleash of the White Coat Waste Investigations when I had your colleague Justin Goodman on.
01:25:55.000 To talk about your guys' exclusive investigative report, which we, you know, were the first to put in a written form, right, in an article to publish your incredible findings at White Coat Waste.
01:26:08.000 It ended up going viral, as many of you saw.
01:26:11.000 That was a story that we broke here on Loomer Unleashed with White Coat Waste, and Elon Musk ended up seeing it, and he said that he was going to investigate.
01:26:20.000 Less than a month later, I think it was about three weeks later, the Secretary of the Navy, late on Tuesday evening, released a video saying that the videos and the documents that we exposed were absolutely horrific.
01:26:34.000 We're referring to those electroshock experiments.
01:26:39.000 We played the videos here on Loomer Unleashed that you guys uncovered, and we showed the FOIA documents that you guys uncovered that showed that millions of dollars, we thought it was $10.8 million, but it turns out that the number was actually $15 million, according to the Secretary of the Navy.
01:26:57.000 They were shoving marbles and condoms up the butts of cats and electrocuting them and crippling them to do these horrific, abusive experiments.
01:27:10.000 It sounds crazy.
01:27:12.000 We actually have the video.
01:27:14.000 we played it on Loomer Unleashed several weeks ago for those of you who are longtime viewers and maybe we'll play it again tonight, but it's so amazing because, I would say that white coat waste is probably the most effective, and I wouldn't even say probably, is the most effective animal advocacy organization out there right now when it comes to shutting down taxpayer-funded animal abuse.
01:27:42.000 and In addition to having the Navy Secretary speak out about ending this $15 million contract, Pete Hegseth also issued a statement from the official rapid response account two weeks ago saying that they were shutting down testing on beagles.
01:28:02.000 And then we were awaiting another official statement as it pertained to a DOD contract where 300 beagles per week, which were provided by the United States government with funding from the United States government, were being tortured in a laboratory paid for by U.S. tax dollars in China.
01:28:21.000 And we were waiting patiently for them to release a statement on that ending.
01:28:26.000 And I believe today, right, there was a report in the New York Post officially Officially releasing a statement from the Department of Defense saying that they were going to be ending those torture experiments, which equates to 27,000 beagles per year.
01:28:43.000 It's been an unbelievable few weeks, Laura, and thank you again for everything to help us really just turbocharge these campaigns.
01:28:52.000 We would not have been able to win.
01:28:54.000 Not at this pace, not without you.
01:28:56.000 And so thank you for really everything here.
01:28:58.000 I mean, this is big stuff.
01:29:00.000 This is real lives we're talking about.
01:29:02.000 You can see.
01:29:02.000 I mean, I didn't just rescue this cat who came out of a lab.
01:29:07.000 We exposed it and closed it.
01:29:09.000 And then I, you know, living with my new pet here who was a lab animal.
01:29:16.000 And this is big stuff.
01:29:19.000 And this is a big deal.
01:29:21.000 And as you just pointed out, we didn't just get Pete Hegseth to do the right thing and cut that contract.
01:29:27.000 And thank you, Secretary Hegseth.
01:29:31.000 Very important move he made because it didn't only cut the contract for the electroshock torture and constipation torture and ED torture.
01:29:44.000 Marbles and condoms.
01:29:45.000 He didn't only cut that.
01:29:47.000 He set, with that one strategic move, he set in a chain reaction, a $10 million contract that he, well, now we know it's more than that, but we thought it was a $10 million contract.
01:29:57.000 He shredded it, set off a ripple wave.
01:30:00.000 Ten days later, the Secretary of the Navy then says, I'm going even further.
01:30:04.000 All of it, all the dogs and cats now, I'm wiped out.
01:30:08.000 Wiped out.
01:30:09.000 We're wiping out the policy.
01:30:10.000 We have that video, actually.
01:30:13.000 I want to go ahead and play the video from the Secretary of the Navy.
01:30:16.000 He posted this video on Tuesday evening announcing the end of the contract.
01:30:20.000 And we're in talks with the Secretary of the Navy and the Department of Defense, too, for a meet and greet with White Coat Waste.
01:30:28.000 And so stay tuned for that, because following these reports that came out and they were.
01:30:37.000 The Secretary of the Navy released this statement that we're about to play for all of you, and they now also want to get more involved with white coat waste in identifying other examples of waste fraud and abuse.
01:30:49.000 And so, you know, there's other animal groups out there, we won't say their name, but they know who they are, that love to try to take credit for the work of other organizations, and they try to get away with it because they have very large budgets and they think that having access to all that money in the PR machine, PETA is going to somehow make them more effective.
01:31:12.000 But ultimately, it'd be really great if we can get to a point in time where people could put their ideological differences aside and their hatred for Trump aside and understand that animals are creatures that bring us all together despite our political differences and our ideological differences.
01:31:29.000 And this is something that people from all backgrounds, all religious backgrounds, all ethnicities, all political parties should be crossing the aisle to come together on to say we're not going to tolerate $20 billion of our taxpayer money every single year.
01:31:44.000 Going towards these torture chambers here in the United States of America to torture innocent cats and dogs and monkeys and mice and rats and all types of animals, but mostly primates and cats and dogs over, over, well,
01:32:11.000 According to John Raymer, who came on a couple weeks ago, he was He, of course, is the founder of Kindness Ranch, and he goes around and just got a text message from him the other day telling me that they picked up another 30 beagles this week, right?
01:32:25.000 They picked up another 30 beagles from laboratories that are surrendering these beagles.
01:32:29.000 They would otherwise have been executed and euthanized, and they will now be going to the Kindness Ranch in Wyoming.
01:32:37.000 And so it's a beautiful thing.
01:32:39.000 It's a really beautiful thing.
01:32:45.000 That funding for these animal abuse experiments are not allowed any longer.
01:32:52.000 And there's a lot of work to be done, of course.
01:32:54.000 A lot of these contracts still haven't been cut, but every single time we have brought them to the attention of the Trump administration, it may take a couple weeks, but they've been very receptive in trying to end these contracts.
01:33:05.000 So I want to go ahead and play the clip.
01:33:06.000 This is the Navy Secretary on Tuesday evening announcing the end of their testing on dogs and cats.
01:33:15.000 Today it gives me great pleasure to terminate all Department of the Navy's testing on cats and dogs, saving taxpayer dollars and ending these inhumane studies.
01:33:24.000 This is long overdue.
01:33:26.000 In addition to this termination, I'm directing the Surgeon General of the Navy to conduct a comprehensive review of all medical research programs to ensure they align with ethical guidelines, scientific necessity, and our core values of integrity and readiness.
01:33:40.000 this.
01:33:46.000 Thank you.
01:33:50.000 Thank you.
01:33:52.000 That must make you feel really good because how many years have you been doing this?
01:33:56.000 many years have you been involved in animal advocacy and trying to end animal testing yeah this is so we're i would say about it's funny question you asked that i would white coats going on it's it's almost nine full time full years but i have a funny story because next month is the 30th anniversary Of how I got into all this.
01:34:24.000 I worked in an animal testing lab when I was 17 years old.
01:34:27.000 So I just dated myself.
01:34:28.000 But when I was in high school, I wanted to get...
01:34:37.000 And I wanted to get a letter of recommendation for a pre-medical track in college.
01:34:44.000 You know, one of those accelerated programs.
01:34:45.000 So long story short, I...
01:34:55.000 And, you know, I was not a vegetarian.
01:34:58.000 I wasn't an animal rights activist.
01:35:00.000 I was a 17-year-old kid from Jersey.
01:35:03.000 But I was horrified by what I saw.
01:35:05.000 And I will never forget until to this day.
01:35:11.000 It became my life's mission, and it became my life's work to fight back against gratuitous cruelty in these torture chambers.
01:35:21.000 And I didn't know how to do it when I was 17 years old, but I know how to do it now.
01:35:26.000 And over the last nine years, what we've done, Laura, and what you just saw in that video is proof of it.
01:35:33.000 What we're doing is ending the culture of losing.
01:35:37.000 The culture of losing in the animal rights, the legacy animal rights movement, because it wasn't very good at shutting down labs.
01:35:46.000 It's been around, those legacy groups have been around for so many decades.
01:35:50.000 Scores, right?
01:35:51.000 50 years.
01:35:53.000 40, 50 years.
01:35:54.000 And what do we get for it?
01:35:56.000 Vivisection fancy word for experimentation on animals what?
01:35:59.000 up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up their watch.
01:36:07.000 And a taxpayer-funded share of the vivisection pie, or the animal testing pie, went up, up, up, up, up, up.
01:36:25.000 A grand total of zero federal dog labs were shut down over the last close to 20 years.
01:36:34.000 And a grand total of zero federal cat labs, Right here, her.
01:36:38.000 We're shut down in 40 years.
01:36:40.000 Again, outside of what we're doing here.
01:36:43.000 That's the legacy approach.
01:36:44.000 It don't work.
01:36:45.000 Throwing red paint doesn't work.
01:36:49.000 If you want to save animals, you cut funding that hurts them.
01:36:53.000 It's that simple.
01:36:55.000 Stop the money.
01:36:56.000 Stop the madness.
01:36:56.000 That was the innovation we came up with.
01:36:58.000 This is a taxpayer-funded problem.
01:37:02.000 If we can drain the swamp, we can drain the problem.
01:37:07.000 And that's what we did.
01:37:09.000 President Trump was the first president to sign an executive order, if you recall, during the first Trump administration that made animal cruelty a felony.
01:37:18.000 And so that was not done until President Trump.
01:37:20.000 And it's interesting how a lot of times people think that, oh, it's the Democrats that care about animals and they care about the environment.
01:37:27.000 Well, President Trump, as far as I'm concerned, has done more to support animal welfare and animal rights and to fight against animal testing.
01:37:36.000 and animal abuse than any president in United States history that I can think of.
01:37:41.000 And so I think that he should definitely be commended for doing so.
01:37:46.000 And it gets even better.
01:37:48.000 Not only did the Secretary of the Navy announce that they were banning all testing on dogs and cats going forward, but let's go ahead and show this New York Post article that just came out today, and then you can speak to this as well because this was another question.
01:38:06.000 We also have the Floridian article, too.
01:38:09.000 There was a lot of press on the Navy Secretary.
01:38:12.000 This was one article that came out.
01:38:14.000 Let's go ahead and get this up on the screen.
01:38:16.000 NIH won't renew cruel drug experiments on beagle puppies, some as young as eight months old.
01:38:21.000 Scroll down.
01:38:22.000 This just came out today.
01:38:24.000 I had actually released this about two weeks ago on Twitter when we first became aware of it, but for some reason it took two weeks for an official statement.
01:38:35.000 Let's go ahead and get that pulled back up.
01:38:37.000 It took about two weeks for an official statement to be released, but I'm glad that it's now in a mainstream publication.
01:38:44.000 It says China-led drug tests on hundreds of beagle puppies won't be conducted.
01:38:49.000 And the number is a bit inaccurate there, I'd say, because it's hundreds every week, right?
01:38:53.000 It's 300 per week, which equates to 27,000.
01:38:56.000 So the New York Post actually correct their article to say 300 per week.
01:39:00.000 Let's get it back on the screen here.
01:39:03.000 300 per week, it's actually 27,000.
01:39:06.000 Won't be conducted anymore on the U.S. taxpayers' dime.
01:39:09.000 The National Institutes of Health confirmed to the Post on Thursday, but the Defense Department still hasn't copped to partially funding the research gene cruel by lawmakers and a watchdog group.
01:39:19.000 A $124,200 contract between the NIH and the Beijing-based biotech firm Farmeron to test pharmaceuticals on the pooches from September 1, 2023 to May 31, 2025 is not being renewed, according to a spokesperson with the Public Health Agency's Office of Extramural Research.
01:39:39.000 You can scroll down.
01:39:43.000 Scroll up a little bit.
01:39:44.000 It's actually a lot more money than that.
01:39:46.000 The Taxpayer Watchdog White Coat Waste Project unearthed the contract via a Freedom of Information request with documents showing up to 300 beagles.
01:39:55.000 Supposed to be per week.
01:39:56.000 300 beagles per week as well as rats and mice.
01:39:59.000 Again, we did the math on this and we talked about this a couple weeks ago on Loomer Unleashed.
01:40:03.000 That's 27,000 beagles.
01:40:06.000 Okay, 27,000 beagles per year, you guys, that are now going to be saved.
01:40:11.000 We're being tested per week to help understand and treat neurological disorders.
01:40:15.000 Yeah, well, they say it in a very...
01:40:20.000 And they try to make it sound like they were just doing research on.
01:40:23.000 It's a lot more brutal than that.
01:40:25.000 A lot more brutal.
01:40:26.000 And the reason why they needed 300 per week is because of the mortality rate of a lot of the beagles.
01:40:32.000 Because, well...
01:40:38.000 I mean, that's a lot of dogs.
01:40:39.000 That's 27,000.
01:40:42.000 And they do not treat animals well in China.
01:40:45.000 And I know we opened up the show tonight by talking about how President Trump is cracking down on the student visas of Chinese nationals.
01:40:52.000 Look, I think we need to have a serious conversation about what happens when we import people into our country or we work with people who don't share our values.
01:41:01.000 And I have a.
01:41:03.000 Three of them are rescues.
01:41:05.000 One of my dogs, Mecca, my Yorkie Poo, was rescued from China.
01:41:10.000 She came from a Chinese meat market.
01:41:12.000 And so that's what they do to dogs there.
01:41:13.000 They torture them in laboratories, just like what's happening here in the United States.
01:41:18.000 But they also eat them.
01:41:19.000 They kill them.
01:41:20.000 During COVID, they were under the belief in China that COVID, if you had COVID, your dogs and your cats also had COVID.
01:41:27.000 And so they were going around and they were kidnapping people's pets in nets and bashing their heads on the sidewalk in videos that were going viral.
01:41:35.000 They really, honestly, have a terrible record as it relates to dogs and cats in China.
01:41:40.000 And I think it should horrify everybody that our Department of Defense was engaged in contracts with the Chinese government to torture animals.
01:41:50.000 You know, it's funny, Lori, China.
01:41:52.000 Let's talk about China for another minute here.
01:41:56.000 How did we find that contract at all?
01:41:58.000 You know, the NIH DOD contract going to China.
01:42:04.000 Well, it comes back to this cat right here.
01:42:07.000 You mentioned the meat markets in China, eating dogs and cats in the most horrific, horrific abuse.
01:42:14.000 And you're right.
01:42:15.000 Well, we know something about this because her laboratory back during the first Trump administration in 2019, she came from the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
01:42:25.000 That's where Delilah was born.
01:42:29.000 Grandparents, great-grandparents, all the way back to, I think, the 60s.
01:42:33.000 I think she traces her bloodlines all the way back there, the first cat they were using.
01:42:37.000 And Delilah's lab was doing something very, very bad.
01:42:43.000 What they were doing was they were actually going around to China, purchasing, rounding up dog and cat meat over there and bringing it back to the kittens over here in the Beltway.
01:42:58.000 They were flying at home, tongues, brains, body parts of cats and dogs, again, pets, stolen pets, whatever, family pets, stray animals, meat market, rounding them up, literally flying them back, Chinese scientists in their carry-on luggage on flights, transporting it to her laboratory in Maryland, and then feeding.
01:43:27.000 The cat meet two other lab kittens.
01:43:31.000 Delilah was a breeder in that lab.
01:43:33.000 She had 22 kittens who were all slaughtered and incinerated around 10 weeks old.
01:43:41.000 22 of them.
01:43:42.000 And they were burned to a crisp.
01:43:45.000 Why were they burned?
01:43:46.000 Why did they burn the kittens?
01:43:48.000 That was their policy.
01:43:49.000 They incinerated them.
01:43:50.000 After they killed them, they grabbed them by the scruff of the neck.
01:43:54.000 Why did they want to kill the kittens?
01:43:58.000 Because that was the protocol.
01:43:59.000 That's what they were doing.
01:44:00.000 They were doing toxoplasmosis research, and they were harvesting the germs.
01:44:08.000 They literally were making the kittens eat rotten meat that was infected with parasites.
01:44:13.000 They went to the litter box, pooped it out, they harvested the germs, and then they killed the kittens.
01:44:20.000 And this went on for almost 50 years.
01:44:24.000 So long story short, back to the China connection, because this is what broke the back of the program when we exposed this.
01:44:30.000 That they were flying to China, getting cat meat and dog meat, and feeding it in cannibalism experiments in the Beltway.
01:44:42.000 That was the first investigation we ever did abroad.
01:44:45.000 And when we went public with that information You're talking about laboratories for those who are wondering what he means by the Beltway.
01:44:57.000 It's another term for the swamp, right?
01:44:59.000 In case you don't spend time in D.C. Because a couple people in the comments are like, what's the Beltway?
01:45:05.000 The Beltway is the Washington, D.C., Virginia area.
01:45:08.000 So that's where deep state experimenters and scientists and bureaucrats hang out.
01:45:14.000 That's another word for it.
01:45:15.000 Because that's what they're loaded up with in the swamp.
01:45:17.000 They were flying dead cats and dead dogs.
01:45:21.000 From China to the United States to engage in cannibalism experiments in laboratories in the Beltway where they were torturing cats and dogs.
01:45:31.000 And by the way, this is still happening, by the way, just so you all know.
01:45:35.000 White Coat Waste has only gotten some of it shut down.
01:45:38.000 There are still hundreds of labs across our country that are engaged in this type of activity.
01:45:42.000 And so if you think that, oh, well, Absolutely not.
01:45:49.000 There's still a ton of them, including within our own government.
01:45:53.000 You know, while the government is now starting to address some of this, after our coverage went viral and your investigations, which I aired here on my show, went viral, unfortunately there are still some people in the Trump administration who are trying to pretend like they are doing good by these animals, but they actually aren't.
01:46:13.000 And we had to speak truth to power and one of those individuals to...
01:46:30.000 And I know that you have some breaking news that you wanted to break here on Loomer Unleashed tonight as it pertains to Dr. Jay Bhattacharya and his extension of some of these animal abuse experiments.
01:46:41.000 And I hate that we have to follow up all the great news with some bad news, but we need to shut it down.
01:46:47.000 We need to shut it down.
01:46:48.000 So, Anthony, why don't you share with our viewers right now this exclusive story that hasn't been reported anywhere else about what Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, the new NIH director, just did?
01:47:00.000 Well, Laura, you're right.
01:47:02.000 There's a lot more work to be done, and here's proof.
01:47:04.000 Just two weeks ago, everybody knows about Fauci's Beagle experiments.
01:47:11.000 We're the investigators who broke that to the world.
01:47:16.000 Fauci had many Beagle experiments, not merely the ones on his own campus, not merely the ones that they were doing in-house.
01:47:25.000 We exposed those two and closed them down.
01:47:28.000 But here's the problem, Laura.
01:47:29.000 As you mentioned, there's a lot of other universities, schools on the dole taking tax money, your money, for experimenting on dogs and cats.
01:47:38.000 And one of them was at the University of Missouri.
01:47:41.000 And this is another Fauci-funded legacy grant that just got renewed.
01:47:46.000 Another payout for taxpayer-funded torture at the University of Missouri, which was a Fauci grant to feed dogs alive to ticks and let them feast and eat and suck the blood of the dogs.
01:48:02.000 So we have a big problem here.
01:48:06.000 It's why are we still funding this stuff?
01:48:09.000 Why are we giving new payouts for dog and cat experiments?
01:48:13.000 What's going on here?
01:48:14.000 This is not what the president wanted.
01:48:18.000 The president was very clear about this.
01:48:21.000 Crack that.
01:48:21.000 End.
01:48:22.000 Well, and it's also very disingenuous because we played the clip a few weeks ago where he was asked about it on...
01:48:45.000 And he made it sound like they were committed to ending animal testing, and here he is now renewing funding for animal torture experiments on dogs where they're literally allowing for ticks to eat dogs alive.
01:48:58.000 At the University of Missouri.
01:49:00.000 So I think that Dr. J. Bhattacharya needs to be questioned on this.
01:49:03.000 He definitely needs to be pressed on this because it's rather disingenuous and pretty cruel, in my opinion, to go on Fox News and talk about how amazing you are because while you're shutting down a Beagle lab at the NIH headquarter, only to deceptively then, two weeks later, not even, almost 11 days later, right?
01:49:21.000 Because that came out on the 3rd of May, I believe.
01:49:24.000 I believe that came out on the 3rd of May, and now you're saying that on the 14th of May, they allocated this funding for these animal torture experiments at University of Missouri.
01:49:36.000 So not even two weeks later, he's repeating the behavior that is...
01:49:56.000 So just like we've had to clear house at the NSC and the NSA and a lot of these other agencies, and we talk about this extensively here on Loomer Unleashed, this concept of the vetting crisis in the Trump administration, the current administration officials and cabinet members Dr. Jay Bhattacharya and say that Oh,
01:50:24.000 they're committed to ending animal testing or reducing animal testing.
01:50:27.000 Well, he clearly lied when he issued that recent press release that they published on the NIH website saying that they were going to phase out some of their animal testing or be committed to ending more animal testing.
01:50:39.000 That doesn't really seem like a commitment to ending animal testing to me when you're allocating funding for these horrific experiments.
01:50:46.000 And that's what Dr. Fauci got in trouble for.
01:50:49.000 But it was flies instead of ticks, right?
01:50:52.000 Allowing for beagles.
01:50:53.000 To have their heads eaten alive by flies.
01:50:59.000 I think it was fruit flies, some kind of a fruit fly.
01:51:02.000 And now Dr. J. Bhattacharya is essentially repeating Dr. Fauci's cruel experiment, but with ticks instead of flies.
01:51:11.000 This is a major, major concern.
01:51:13.000 And you're right.
01:51:14.000 You talk about the vetting crisis in the administration.
01:51:18.000 And the vetting crisis I mean, this needs to be probed because why are we funding this?
01:51:28.000 Why are we not defunding this?
01:51:31.000 What is going on at the NIH?
01:51:33.000 This was not the president.
01:51:36.000 This is clearly at a step that the president wanted.
01:51:39.000 He was very clear.
01:51:40.000 The president doesn't support this.
01:51:41.000 President Trump doesn't support this.
01:51:44.000 You know, I know that his administration officials, upon hearing this, they do not support this.
01:51:49.000 Pete Hegseth was horrified when he found out about these experiments that were happening with the DOD.
01:51:55.000 The Navy Secretary was horrified.
01:51:57.000 I know so.
01:51:58.000 I spoke with his staff.
01:51:59.000 They personally told me that he was horrified.
01:52:00.000 And so it just makes me wonder why Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who is aware of what's happening and claiming to shut it down, is then quietly approving this.
01:52:09.000 Like, is he not horrified by animal abuse and torture?
01:52:12.000 I understand.
01:52:13.000 I understand, too, that he has said that he's a fan of white coat waste.
01:52:16.000 Well, how can you say that you're a fan of white coat waste when you are giving funding to the same mad scientists who are being exposed by white coat waste?
01:52:27.000 It's just very disingenuous, and it's very fake, and I'm very disappointed in Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.
01:52:32.000 We gave him praise a couple weeks ago here on Loomer Unleashed when he did the right thing.
01:52:37.000 We will always give people credit when credit is due, but we also have to call people out when When they go astray or they do something that is incompatible with the America First agenda and we have to call everybody out if they're engaged in animal abuse or the facilitation of animal abuse and I think we can all agree that allowing ticks to eat animals alive when they can't leave a cage and they're subjected to feel pain and they're not being given pain medicine.
01:53:07.000 And they're not allowed to go outside.
01:53:08.000 That's animal abuse.
01:53:09.000 And Dr. J. Bhattacharya needs to be held accountable for that if he's going to allow for this to happen on his watch.
01:53:18.000 Absolutely.
01:53:19.000 I mean, it's credit where credit is due for sure, always.
01:53:23.000 But this is our job, is to expose and close these labs that are conducting heinous and wasteful spending on animals.
01:53:35.000 NIH has a problem with priorities right now.
01:53:38.000 You mentioned that big announcement with the press release and their new policy, this Arriva policy.
01:53:45.000 We oppose it.
01:53:46.000 We oppose it.
01:53:47.000 And we opposed it when they put it out for a reason.
01:53:50.000 It was a bit of a disappointment.
01:53:56.000 You have an Arriva policy.
01:53:57.000 They call it Arriva.
01:53:58.000 it's an abbreviation but what it means is What they said was that they're going to prioritize things like alternatives.
01:54:17.000 It sounds good, but unless there's a commitment with a timetable, a deadline, and a hard spending cut, without that deadline to phase it out and get rid of it, the problem is it gives this unlimited pass to just Maintain the status quo.
01:54:35.000 And the status quo is unacceptable.
01:54:37.000 That's what's going on.
01:54:38.000 We've got Fauci, Biden, leftovers and holdovers who are ramming these payouts through.
01:54:46.000 I'm not sure.
01:54:47.000 But this is a major problem of priorities right now.
01:54:50.000 Why is Fauci getting funded?
01:54:52.000 Why are Fauci grants getting refunded now?
01:54:55.000 They should be getting defunded.
01:54:59.000 Absolutely.
01:55:01.000 Are there any other cuts to animal testing that you want to highlight?
01:55:06.000 I know that it's been a pretty big month, let alone a big week for white coat waste, but I know that we spoke about the announcement today.
01:55:15.000 Well, the confirmation of the announcement we made two weeks ago by the New York Post as it relates to the ending of the contract with the DOD in China, where 27,000 beagles per year were going to be supplied by the United States of America for torture experiments.
01:55:30.000 We talked about the Navy Secretary cutting all animal testing as it relates to dogs and cats.
01:55:37.000 What else?
01:55:38.000 Well, we also have, you know, there's a lot of other junk that needs to go, right?
01:55:43.000 There's a lot of other, In the NIH headquarters right now, there is a heinous monkey experiment, Laura, that you helped us expose recently, that they're still doing in, again, in their own basement, right there in the NIH headquarters.
01:56:02.000 Where Dr. Jay Bhattacharya works every day, by the way.
01:56:06.000 So this is what I'm talking about, about being disingenuous.
01:56:09.000 Don't go on Fox News and pretend like you're a savior for animals and that you're doing the right thing.
01:56:14.000 They're doing this in Bethesda, Maryland, like these buildings that you see, right?
01:56:19.000 We're not just talking about laboratories in China and faraway lands.
01:56:22.000 We're talking about laboratories in federal buildings in China.
01:56:32.000 It sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie, some kind of horror movie, where you have these mad scientists literally caging innocent dogs and cats and monkeys in cages in the basements of these federal buildings and they're torturing them with a $20 billion budget per year.
01:56:48.000 And back in, you know, right after we shut Delilah's lab down back in 2019, White Coat Waste sued the NIH.
01:56:54.000 And we sued them to pry secret videotapes out of their hands of filming.
01:56:59.000 They were actually filming these monkey experiments in the basement, in which they were damaging their brains with acid.
01:57:07.000 They were chaining them up by the neck, locking them up in these cages, and then deliberately frightening them with snakes and spiders.
01:57:17.000 Just to provoke a fear response, right?
01:57:20.000 So think about that.
01:57:21.000 They're caging them, they're brain damaging them, and then they're just trying to induce as much fear as possible.
01:57:27.000 This is still happening.
01:57:30.000 This is still going on inside his headquarters.
01:57:33.000 Why?
01:57:33.000 You know, again, we first exposed those secret videos to the world back in, well, we first sued in 2019, got the tapes, and exposed them to the world in early 2020.
01:57:44.000 And we started the campaign, and we're not stopping until that's cleaned out, too.
01:57:49.000 But that is still going on right now, and it shows you.
01:57:51.000 We have a major problem with priorities right now.
01:57:53.000 They're building more bureaucracy.
01:57:55.000 They're building bigger government.
01:57:57.000 They're opening up new departments.
01:57:59.000 This new Areva plan I told you about, it looks like a Joe Biden plan.
01:58:03.000 That's what it looks like.
01:58:04.000 It looks like a Kamala plan.
01:58:06.000 That's what they're building in there right now.
01:58:08.000 We've got a big problem of priorities.
01:58:11.000 Why are we funding Fauci grants to feed dogs to ticks and insects?
01:58:15.000 Why are we torturing monkeys with snakes and spiders in the basement of the NIH?
01:58:20.000 This stuff's got to go.
01:58:21.000 That's priority number one.
01:58:23.000 Clean house.
01:58:26.000 Yeah, and they're still funding some of these kitten labs, too.
01:58:29.000 You talked about the kitten lab that you guys got shut down where your precious Delilah, and you have multiple cats, right?
01:58:35.000 This is just one of the cats.
01:58:36.000 Don't you have another cat that you rescued from a laboratory as well?
01:58:40.000 Absolutely.
01:58:41.000 I actually adopted two cats from the USDA in 2019.
01:58:45.000 After Trump shut that down, we ran that campaign.
01:58:49.000 And I adopted two of the breeding moms.
01:58:49.000 He shut it down.
01:58:52.000 One of them passed away last year.
01:58:57.000 Her name was Petite.
01:58:58.000 And she was a tiny little cat.
01:59:00.000 They named her Petite.
01:59:01.000 And she passed away.
01:59:03.000 And then I adopted another one from another lab.
01:59:06.000 We had gotten shut down.
01:59:08.000 Her name is Marigold.
01:59:10.000 And she actually was, from the University of California, Davis, was another Fauci-funded experiment in which they were trying to replicate the same style of kitten cannibalism experiments, but doing it out there.
01:59:25.000 And Dr. Fauci was funding it.
01:59:26.000 We knocked that thing out, killed that thing last year, and Marigold was one of the cats in the colony.
01:59:36.000 Where they were breeding cats and doing experiments on them.
01:59:40.000 So this is, saving cats from wasteful spending is my specialty.
01:59:45.000 And so Marigold is still alive, right?
01:59:47.000 She's just not on air tonight.
01:59:50.000 And so if you don't, I don't know, it's a sore subject and I hate to bring it up because our animals are like children.
01:59:56.000 Did Petit die from natural causes or was her death accelerated because of the mistreatment she had in the laboratories?
02:00:07.000 Probably natural causes, but who knows, right?
02:00:09.000 I mean, it was, it was, she had a her kidneys went out at the end um and she had been sick for a while but you know it's pets are family.
02:00:20.000 And these two cats were my...
02:00:23.000 And they're going down in the history books too.
02:00:25.000 You know, it's...
02:00:27.000 The last thing I'll say about China is, you know, a lot of people don't know this, but...
02:00:37.000 We're also the organization that first exposed and first uncovered that U.S. taxpayers funded the Wuhan lab, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the lab leak center.
02:00:49.000 We exposed that.
02:00:50.000 Responsible for the China virus, which killed 1.2 million Americans and millions of other people around the world, too.
02:00:58.000 And that taxpayers funded it, that the U.S. government We did it.
02:01:02.000 We did our own pandemic.
02:01:04.000 And the reason we did that was because of these cats.
02:01:08.000 We were hot on the trail of looking at what American animal testing labs were paying for in China because of the kitten cannibalism experiments.
02:01:17.000 That happened in 2019.
02:01:18.000 We took out the USDA.
02:01:22.000 And right after we ended that laboratory, and we did it with the silver bullet, which was The knockout punch was the kitten cannibalism investigation.
02:01:33.000 So the first thing we did after that was we said, well, what else is our government funding in China?
02:01:39.000 That was the first question we asked.
02:01:40.000 What else?
02:01:41.000 What other animal abuse are we funding over there?
02:01:44.000 So we started looking around and we were going through what you call a PHS assurance list, which is the list of all the laboratories that the NIH had.
02:01:55.000 And in late 2019, we came across that there were about 28, 29, 30 give or take laboratories who were authorized for money in China.
02:02:07.000 Nobody was talking about the Lab League at that time.
02:02:12.000 People didn't start getting sick until what?
02:02:14.000 At least we didn't hear, excuse me, people got sick early, but the news reports didn't start coming out until early 2020.
02:02:21.000 It was an epidemic.
02:02:22.000 Before it was a pandemic.
02:02:25.000 And we had the goods, right?
02:02:28.000 We followed the money right to Wuhan.
02:02:31.000 And we saw there were two universities, Wuhan Institute of Virology and Wuhan University, authorized by the NIH, two of them alone in China.
02:02:42.000 And we brought this to the Trump administration's attention.
02:02:45.000 We met with them in very early 2020.
02:02:50.000 And like I said, it was only an epidemic at that moment.
02:02:52.000 It wasn't a pandemic yet.
02:02:54.000 But we were meeting with them just to talk about the broader agenda of wasteful spending on animal testing.
02:03:01.000 And a month or two after that, or around April of 2020, we took our investigation to the Daily Mail.
02:03:12.000 And that was where the headline came from.
02:03:15.000 U.S. government grants $3.7 million.
02:03:18.000 To the Lab League Center, I'm paraphrasing here, at the center of the coronavirus scandal.
02:03:24.000 That's how the world learned who paid for the pandemic.
02:03:28.000 And my cats are the ones who put us on that trail.
02:03:31.000 Because they were part of that kitten cannibalism investigation, because they turned us on to the scandal that our government was funding these labs in China.
02:03:39.000 That's how this happened.
02:03:40.000 And that's how taxpayers learned about it and the world learned about it.
02:03:43.000 So Petit's no longer with us, but she's going down in history.
02:03:48.000 Absolutely.
02:03:49.000 And white coat waste is going down in history for all of the incredible work that you've done, not just to expose the China virus, but also to expose all of these cruel animal abuse experiments.
02:04:01.000 And think about all the lives that you've saved.
02:04:03.000 I mean, just in the announcement today that was confirmed, I mean, we released this together two weeks ago, and now the media confirmed it today with the official statement that we were waiting on from the Department of Defense.
02:04:15.000 That's 27,000 beagles just in one lab per year that you have saved from this one contract that won't be renewed because of your investigation.
02:04:25.000 Who knows how many dogs and cats you just saved this week, too, as a result of the Secretary of the Navy banning all testing on dogs and cats going forward.
02:04:34.000 Who knows how many cats and dogs you're saving from these electroshock experiments that are also being cut from the DOD.
02:04:41.000 I mean, there are thousands of animals that are now going to...
02:04:49.000 And hopefully through your work with groups like Kindness Ranch, which goes across the country and picks up these innocent beagles from all these different laboratories, you're going to be able to help these innocent animals find loving homes instead of being tortured for the rest of their lives in these.
02:05:09.000 Horrific torture chambers paid for by our taxpayer dollars.
02:05:12.000 So I hope you're very proud of yourself and the work that you're doing, especially as a group that has such a small budget compared to groups like PETA that have $75 million per year.
02:05:23.000 And it's like, personally, I think that you guys should be getting...
02:05:27.000 they should be giving you guys the money.
02:05:28.000 The money that they're taking away from these animal testing experiments should go to groups like you that are actually exposed So hopefully you're able to get millions of dollars in contributions so that you can continue expanding because you have a pretty small team, right?
02:05:46.000 I mean, if you don't mind sharing with the viewers tonight how many people work for White Coat Least.
02:05:54.000 team effort, these historic So congrats to team effort here.
02:06:02.000 Thank you.
02:06:03.000 And we are a small team, but we're lean and mean.
02:06:07.000 And we're Operation Kill.
02:06:09.000 We shut the labs down.
02:06:11.000 You know, our full-time staff is, I think it's about a dozen, give or take.
02:06:17.000 So it's not that big.
02:06:19.000 I founded the organization in 2011.
02:06:23.000 But it wasn't a full-time organization until 2016.
02:06:26.000 I found it out of my own pocket.
02:06:29.000 I started it from nothing.
02:06:31.000 But, you know, we have a grassroots movement here.
02:06:34.000 We have a great message here.
02:06:36.000 We have a president in the Oval Office here who supports this moral imperative and this fiscal imperative, and it's just that pets are family.
02:06:49.000 We've got to end this sad, horrible chapter of taxpayer-funded torture and get our government out of this dirty business.
02:07:01.000 So we're rocking and we're growing.
02:07:05.000 And Laura, thank you for helping us each step of the way.
02:07:11.000 And there's a lot of work to still be done.
02:07:11.000 Absolutely.
02:07:14.000 Hopefully we can get you in the Oval Office.
02:07:16.000 I think it'd be so great to see President Trump do a photo shoot with the beagles and the cats.
02:07:20.000 And I think it's great when you guys take all the dogs and the cats to Capitol Hill to meet with lawmakers because you're doing such important work.
02:07:29.000 And I hope that more people will support the work that you're doing as well.
02:07:33.000 Where do people go if they want to support you, if they want to donate to White Coat Waste?
02:07:36.000 I know you guys have a great website.
02:07:38.000 You're also on social media.
02:07:39.000 We'll flag your website and your social media accounts for people watching right now.
02:07:42.000 But if people watching want to donate, where do they go to donate right now?
02:07:46.000 Thank you, Laura.
02:07:47.000 If we encourage folks to go to whitecoatwaste.org, whitecoatwaste.org, check us out on X at the handle whitecoatwaste.
02:07:58.000 Facebook, white coat waste.
02:08:00.000 Instagram, white coat waste.
02:08:01.000 Pretty easy.
02:08:02.000 White coat waste.
02:08:03.000 A funny name, but that's white coat waste.
02:08:07.000 That's all you need.
02:08:09.000 And you're a 501c3, right?
02:08:12.000 So all the contributions are tax-deductible?
02:08:15.000 Tax-deductible.
02:08:16.000 Great.
02:08:17.000 So if you haven't already made your charitable contributions this year, make sure you head on over to whitecoatwaste.org and make a contribution to White Coat Waste.
02:08:26.000 They're doing incredible work.
02:08:27.000 They're not just talking about saving animals.
02:08:28.000 They actually have the receipts to prove it.
02:08:31.000 That video from the Secretary of the Navy and also these reports that just came out today in the New York Post.
02:08:37.000 I mean, you guys got a lot of press.
02:08:39.000 Gateway Pundit, Breitbart, it's all over the place, really.
02:08:41.000 All over the news.
02:08:43.000 What has happened as a result of your work and your hard-fought investigation.
02:08:50.000 So we can't thank you enough.
02:08:52.000 As one animal lover to another, I'm just very touched by just the fact that you put your own resources and your own money into building such an impactful organization that is now saving thousands of lives.
02:09:09.000 And I just hope that all these animals are going to be able to find loving homes and that they're going to be able to meet people like you, like you rescued Delilah and Petite and Marigold, and that they're going to be able to help these animals escape some of the trauma that has been the last several years of their life living in these laboratories because it's a great place.
02:09:29.000 I remember when I got Mecca from the Chinese meat market, you know, she was very timid, she was very scared, and she didn't really want to be around anybody, and she would hide under the bed.
02:09:38.000 And now, right, she's like the happiest little dog, so it can happen.
02:09:42.000 You can really brighten an animal's life and give them another chance at life, and that's what you guys are doing every day.
02:09:50.000 So I'm a proud supporter of White Coat Waste and anything I can do to help you guys.
02:09:54.000 You know, I'm blessed with a large platform.
02:09:57.000 I worked for my platform.
02:09:59.000 I worked hard to build it up from nothing.
02:10:01.000 But what's the point of having a large following if you're not going to use your following to help others, right?
02:10:06.000 You don't get to keep your Twitter account when you die someday.
02:10:09.000 You don't get to take your social media followers with you.
02:10:12.000 And so the best part about having a lot of followers on social media is that every single week I'm able to bring people like you on my show and inform other people about all these amazing causes that they can get involved in.
02:10:27.000 Mainstream media isn't talking about that they should be talking about.
02:10:30.000 So I just want to thank you for everything that you do for the animals, and congratulations.
02:10:34.000 What an amazing week it's been for you.
02:10:37.000 Thank you, Laura.
02:10:38.000 Thank you for everything, and let's go close more labs.
02:10:42.000 Absolutely.
02:10:43.000 Thank you so much, Anthony.
02:10:45.000 I really appreciate it.
02:10:47.000 Thank you again.
02:10:48.000 Thank you.
02:10:48.000 Take care.
02:10:51.000 Alrighty.
02:10:52.000 Anthony is also on social media as well at Anthony Bilotti, so be sure that you follow him too.
02:10:58.000 I follow him and I've posted several of his tweets today, so you can check it out and see it for yourself.
02:11:06.000 Joining me now to continue, oh, well, she's getting framed up right now.
02:11:12.000 We're going to continue our discussion about animal cruelty and people, heroes, friends of mine.
02:11:20.000 Heroic Republican lawmakers.
02:11:22.000 Really, it's interesting, isn't it, how
02:11:50.000 And so this is something that you're not going to see the media really give Republicans.
02:11:54.000 I mean, there's so many Republicans that have Just done absolutely incredible work this week as it relates to fighting for the lives of innocent animals, the most vulnerable members of our society.
02:12:17.000 And my next guest is a personal friend of mine, somebody I greatly admire and love dearly.
02:12:23.000 She is a freshman, Florida legislature, Florida representative in Tallahassee.
02:12:29.000 My friend, Meg Weinberger, Florida representative.
02:12:32.000 Meg, thanks so much for joining me tonight.
02:12:35.000 Thanks for having me.
02:12:38.000 Absolutely.
02:12:39.000 You know, one of the reasons why you decided to run for office, and I know I helped you with your campaign and you told me one of the reasons why you wanted so badly to be a Florida representative was to fight for animals.
02:12:51.000 And you yourself have your own animal rescue called Rescue Life.
02:12:55.000 I've been to your home.
02:12:57.000 I've been to your animal rescue.
02:12:59.000 You literally have 17 dogs that live inside your house.
02:13:03.000 I mean, no joke.
02:13:04.000 This woman literally has 17 dogs.
02:13:06.000 I'm not just talking little dogs either.
02:13:08.000 I'm talking.
02:13:08.000 Massive dogs, okay?
02:13:10.000 We're talking Great Danes, pit bulls, all types of dogs.
02:13:13.000 So she's got a zoo.
02:13:15.000 Like an actual zoo.
02:13:16.000 She has zebras.
02:13:17.000 She has ducks.
02:13:18.000 She has cats.
02:13:19.000 She has an entire cat compound on her farm.
02:13:22.000 She's got horses, cows.
02:13:23.000 I mean, there's animals.
02:13:24.000 I don't even know what they are, right?
02:13:26.000 I just know that they're being taken care of very well.
02:13:29.000 And when you decided to run for office, one of the things that you told me that you wanted to do was fight for animals and create laws to go after animals.
02:13:38.000 Animal abusers and really make this a national issue, right?
02:13:42.000 Animal welfare.
02:13:43.000 And you've done an incredible job.
02:13:46.000 The Florida legislative session just came to an end and a lot of lawmakers never got to see the governor of their state sign their laws into effect.
02:13:57.000 But Governor Ron DeSantis actually signed several of your laws.
02:14:01.000 You know, into law.
02:14:01.000 And yesterday he signed one of them.
02:14:03.000 It's called Dexter's Law.
02:14:04.000 And I wanted to bring you on to talk about Dexter's Law tonight because this was a piece of legislation that you created.
02:14:12.000 You campaigned on creating this even before you were a lawmaker.
02:14:15.000 And it's the creation of an animal abuse database, kind of like a child predator, sex predator, pedophile database, right?
02:14:23.000 You know, these databases that you see where child sex predators have to register and then you're able to see how many child sex predators live in your neighborhood.
02:14:32.000 You actually got the governor to create an animal abuser database.
02:14:35.000 So now there's going to be a state registry, the first of its kind in the state of Florida, the first in the nation to document animal abusers.
02:14:46.000 Well, I can't take all the credit, honestly.
02:14:49.000 Rep.
02:14:49.000 Linda Cheney is the one who filed Dexter's Law.
02:14:52.000 I had filed the database.
02:14:53.000 And, of course, you know, my passion for animal cruelty and being a voice for the voiceless is something I will always be.
02:15:00.000 I truly believe if you're hurting animals, that's not the only law that you're breaking.
02:15:04.000 If you're hurting children, you're breaking many other laws.
02:15:07.000 And it's just one way to, you know, maybe catch a bad guy before they do something or a girl before they do something worse.
02:15:14.000 So this was, you know, Debbie Durino.
02:15:17.000 It was her.
02:15:17.000 She's a civilian.
02:15:18.000 She actually was behind Ponce's Law.
02:15:20.000 She's an amazing lady.
02:15:22.000 I met her during my campaign.
02:15:24.000 We met, I was trying to help with some other animals that were being badly abused and we're trying to get them removed from this.
02:15:31.000 It was in Dixie County, believe it or not.
02:15:34.000 And we met online and just, You know, kind of kept talking, and she had, there was a story of a guy that was arrested for having sex with his dog, if I'm allowed to say this or not, and he was arrested, put in jail, And as soon as he got out of jail, he actually posted it on social media in a husky suit having sex with his dog.
02:15:58.000 So then when he got out of jail.
02:16:02.000 Yes, yes.
02:16:05.000 I think it was 2019.
02:16:07.000 I was trying to look it up.
02:16:08.000 What happened to the dog?
02:16:10.000 Did the dog get injured?
02:16:12.000 You know, I have to ask her.
02:16:15.000 I don't remember.
02:16:15.000 I might have suppressed it.
02:16:17.000 I need to find out.
02:16:18.000 I think the dog was removed, obviously.
02:16:20.000 But he went to jail.
02:16:21.000 As soon as he got out, he was posting a puppy husky that he had adopted right after he got out of jail.
02:16:31.000 So, you know, it's one of those that she was this woman, Debbie, so passionate and just like I said, just a civilian that kind of and I was not even elected yet.
02:16:40.000 She, you know, just told me about this bill that she really thought would be a great idea.
02:16:44.000 So honestly, Representative Cheney having Dexter's Law, you know, making it through all the committees and was kind enough to letting us, you know.
02:16:54.000 Senator Leake, putting it on his bill in the Senate, was able to get the database.
02:17:00.000 Dexter's Law was another horrific.
02:17:02.000 A dog that was adopted from a shelter and one month later found decapitated.
02:17:08.000 Actually, he was mutilated and decapitated.
02:17:10.000 He was found in the main groups.
02:17:12.000 The only way they knew, they wouldn't even have known it was him.
02:17:15.000 He was that oddly mutilated.
02:17:17.000 But he had a microchip, and the shelter said that he was, you know, the sweetest dog.
02:17:21.000 Why did they mutilate him?
02:17:23.000 Like, what was the purpose of adopting this dog if they were just going to mutilate him and decapitate him?
02:17:28.000 Just Jeffrey Dahmer.
02:17:30.000 I don't know.
02:17:30.000 I mean, you know, serial killers.
02:17:33.000 Somebody that should probably never be let out of jail, in my opinion.
02:17:36.000 If you're able to do something that heinous, you know, there's a story.
02:17:41.000 Please throw away the key.
02:17:43.000 Yeah, and we actually have a bill here announcing the passing of these bills.
02:17:48.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number eight.
02:17:52.000 Both these bills will save lives.
02:17:55.000 Not possibly, not hopefully, they will save lives.
02:18:00.000 Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed two new laws Wednesday crafted to protect animals from abuse and neglect.
02:18:09.000 The move comes after a dog was found tied to a pole in Tampa during Hurricane Milton last October.
02:18:15.000 Troopers saved the dog just as floodwaters were rising.
02:18:18.000 The water was rising very quickly and so it was getting close to his neck.
02:18:24.000 And had he just been left there, he may have ended up drowning.
02:18:28.000 The incident led to trooper's law named after the rescued dog.
02:18:32.000 It's now a felony to tie up and abandon a dog during a declared disaster or evacuation.
02:18:38.000 Offenders could receive up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.
02:18:42.000 That law takes effect October 1st.
02:18:45.000 If you evacuate, make sure you're taking care of your pets.
02:18:49.000 You cannot leave.
02:18:51.000 a dog behind if you're in an evacuation zone.
02:18:55.000 DeSantis says, unfortunately, Florida has been home to many dogs on the receiving end of abuse.
02:19:01.000 He points to a dog named Dexter who was adopted from a shelter and four days later was found killed.
02:19:07.000 Dexter's law takes effect this summer on July 1st.
02:19:10.000 It also creates Florida's first animal abuser database and enhances penalties for aggravated cruelty.
02:19:17.000 For Straight Arrow News, I'm Kaylee Carey.
02:19:19.000 For more unbiased, fact-driven stories, download the Straight Air News mobile app today.
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02:19:28.000 And, you know, I've been critical of Governor Ron DeSantis in the past.
02:19:31.000 That's no secret.
02:19:32.000 But I've got to give credit where credit's due.
02:19:34.000 I think it's really incredible that Governor Ron DeSantis is standing up for innocent animals and fighting against animal abuse.
02:19:40.000 I love that sign that says Florida loves dogs.
02:19:43.000 And I'll never forget that story when the hurricane happened.
02:19:46.000 I think that you and I were texting each other, you, me, and your husband.
02:19:49.000 Oh, my God, can you believe that somebody actually tied their dog up?
02:19:53.000 And it ended up having a happy ending, of course.
02:19:55.000 I think a Florida State Trooper.
02:19:57.000 Super rescued the dog, and then it went to a loving family, and now it's the happiest dog.
02:20:02.000 And so it's really amazing to see, you know, terrible tragedies turn into something positive.
02:20:08.000 And while it's so sad that Dexter was mutilated and decapitated, it's great that people like you are in the Florida house now to create legislation to protect animals.
02:20:19.000 I, you know, hopefully we'll see more legislation like this in the future.
02:20:25.000 When does Dexter's Law go into effect?
02:20:29.000 I believe it's July.
02:20:32.000 I think it's July of 2025.
02:20:34.000 I was reading it.
02:20:35.000 Yeah, it is.
02:20:38.000 January.
02:20:38.000 January 1st.
02:20:39.000 No, that's the database.
02:20:40.000 But the Dexter's Law, I think, may be July.
02:20:44.000 You know, I wanted to mention that we have to kind of – I think that we need to educate people and it needs to start in elementary school.
02:20:58.000 Many people really don't know how to care for animals.
02:21:01.000 They don't understand that.
02:21:02.000 To me and you, this seems like common sense, but unfortunately to many people, they don't realize you don't leave your pet.
02:21:09.000 When you move out of your house, you don't leave your pet.
02:21:12.000 I remember growing up when people would move out, they would just leave their dog and of course we would end up living in our house or something crazy like that.
02:21:21.000 I've gone to rescue several dogs from Louisiana during a hurricane where people don't know what to do with their dogs, so they just turn them into the shelter.
02:21:30.000 I think someone like you or I can't imagine doing that, but I think people need to be educated.
02:21:36.000 You and I rescue dogs together during a hurricane.
02:21:39.000 Yeah, I drove to New Orleans during a hurricane and had to meet on the side of the road on a truck stop.
02:21:46.000 And we were supposed to bring 20 dogs back in the van.
02:21:48.000 During Hurricane Milton, you and I rescued dogs together in the hurricane.
02:21:52.000 And when the tornado hit and destroyed the Furry Friends Animal Shelter, you and I were the first people on the scene when they were evacuating all the dogs.
02:22:00.000 And you actually are the reason why I ended up adopting Bo, who's one of my new dogs, my blind.
02:22:08.000 That's right.
02:22:09.000 Blind dog that was one of the dogs that was at the Furry Friends Animal Shelter that got completely destroyed during the tornado in the Hurricane Milton just a few months ago.
02:22:22.000 And so I can attest to that.
02:22:25.000 And that was my first thought, really, in the aftermath of a storm is let's go save all these animals.
02:22:31.000 I think I saw a few cats from that day.
02:22:36.000 Yeah.
02:22:37.000 I wanted to take a few more animals, too.
02:22:37.000 Definitely.
02:22:39.000 And we were able to raise a lot of money for them, too.
02:22:43.000 In addition to the database, what else is Dexter's Law going to do, aside from, you know, creating hardship penalties?
02:22:51.000 Harsher penalties for people who abuse dogs.
02:22:53.000 You have this database where people are now going to be able to see how does the database work exactly?
02:22:58.000 Because, you know, with the pedophile databases, you type in, you know, are there sex offenders in my neighborhood?
02:23:04.000 And it shows where they live.
02:23:05.000 It shows what their name is and what their offense was so that you're aware of the crimes they committed against children.
02:23:13.000 What can we expect to see from this database?
02:23:15.000 It's publicly available.
02:23:17.000 How do you access it?
02:23:18.000 And what kind of crime?
02:23:22.000 Is it just animal abuse?
02:23:23.000 Or if they've also committed other crimes, can we expect to see that too?
02:23:27.000 Well, it'll be just like as if you were looking at a sex offender.
02:23:30.000 Yes, you know, they'll be managing it the same way.
02:23:33.000 It doesn't ban them from buying or owning a dog or an animal, but a judge can include that in the sentence.
02:23:42.000 It does, however, give the ability.
02:23:57.000 I mean, this is a start.
02:23:59.000 You know, you have to see where it goes.
02:24:02.000 And if it needs to go further, then, you know, then we go back and we make it better.
02:24:07.000 So I think we have to keep working at it.
02:24:09.000 The Dexter's Law is a sentence multiplier, so it will increase the sentence by 1.25% when it's convicted.
02:24:18.000 Wow, that's incredible.
02:24:20.000 Are there any other additional forms of legislation that you have in the pipeline?
02:24:24.000 I know that the Florida legislative session just came to an end, but I know you're always thinking of ways that you can improve the lives of animals.
02:24:32.000 Are there any other bills that you have in mind or bills that are currently being discussed?
02:24:38.000 You know, for the next legislative session?
02:24:40.000 I would definitely like to continue.
02:24:43.000 I had a breeder bill in that would, you know, best management practices for breeders.
02:24:52.000 You know, there are some great breeders, and I have no problem if somebody wants to go out and, you know, buy a beautiful golden doodle or a purebred, even though you can rescue them in case people don't know.
02:25:06.000 There are breeders that are not good breeders, and their animals are living in conditions where they should not be living in.
02:25:13.000 Absolutely.
02:25:14.000 We'll fight for that one again next session.
02:25:18.000 Any last comments or thoughts or anything that you want to relate to the viewers?
02:25:22.000 I know that we've seen a lot of instances of animal abuse here in the state of Florida.
02:25:28.000 It's quite alarming.
02:25:30.000 I know that there was an incident not too far from where I live.
02:25:36.000 Where you have had a fisherman who was recently just indicted, it made news here in the state of Florida for shooting and poisoning multiple dolphins.
02:25:46.000 Anything you can tell us about how that case is being prosecuted on the state level?
02:25:50.000 I know that the DOJ also released a statement about it.
02:25:53.000 But what can you tell us about that?
02:25:55.000 That was a story.
02:25:56.000 We'll get it up on the screen here momentarily.
02:25:57.000 But just saw that story today.
02:26:00.000 And it just seems like whether it's not just dogs and cats and monkeys that are being abused and laboratories are being abused by animal abusers who shouldn't have dogs, but also marine animals too.
02:26:11.000 I mean, there's a real epidemic of animal abuse in this country.
02:26:15.000 I think it goes underreported.
02:26:17.000 And every day, there's horrific examples of innocent animals being mutilated, shot, tortured, abused.
02:26:26.000 And what can you tell us about how they're being prosecuted?
02:26:32.000 Well, you know, again, this is going back to education.
02:26:35.000 Because for years, the mindset was they were just property.
02:26:40.000 They weren't a living being.
02:26:41.000 So I think that's something that we really need to start, you know, Unfortunately, educating people that they are a living being and they're not just property.
02:26:51.000 Any creature.
02:26:52.000 I don't know much about the dolphin case other than probably what you do.
02:26:55.000 it's just horrific.
02:26:56.000 I can't imagine somebody- We'll show it on the screen really quick.
02:27:01.000 Fishing captain sentence for shooting poisoning dolphins in Gulf of America.
02:27:07.000 There were, you know, just talking about a lot of the dolphin fatalities.
02:27:10.000 Let's scroll down.
02:27:11.000 People can see the rest of the article.
02:27:12.000 A longtime charter and commercial fishing captain is in deep waters after poisoning and shooting dolphins in the Gulf of America, formerly known as the Gulf of Mexico.
02:27:21.000 Zachary Brandon Barfield of Panama City, Florida, was sentenced to 30 days in prison in order to pay a $51,000 fine after pleading guilty to three counts of poisoning and shooting dolphins in violation of the Marine Mammal Protection Act and federal insecticide.
02:27:35.000 Fungicide and Redenticide Act.
02:27:38.000 I mean, that seems pretty lenient, right?
02:27:40.000 Like 30 days in prison and a $51,000 fine?
02:27:43.000 mean I don't know you think that about I think you never have a fishing license again you're You take your boat away.
02:27:51.000 I think completely you're stripped of everything.
02:27:56.000 And especially go to jail.
02:27:58.000 Absolutely.
02:27:58.000 I mean, that's horrific.
02:28:00.000 Is Dexter's law only applying to domesticated animals like dogs and cats, or is it also going to apply to Right now, it's not wildlife or agriculture.
02:28:16.000 It is only domestic.
02:28:19.000 But, like I said, you've got to start somewhere.
02:28:23.000 I mean, I think that we're going to need to, especially with stories like this.
02:28:26.000 This is just not acceptable, you know, and that people have just no regard for life or the law.
02:28:32.000 Absolutely.
02:28:33.000 Well, Meg, we want to thank you for everything that you're doing.
02:28:36.000 You know, in addition to fighting against animal abuse, you also made headlines, too, for your bill to name, what was it, Donald J. Trump Highway.
02:28:48.000 What can you tell us about that?
02:28:49.000 Because I know that you were endorsed by President Trump.
02:28:51.000 You were recently at the Oval Office for a ceremony recognizing some Palm Beach County officers that were murdered in the line of duty.
02:29:02.000 And you also made news for your creation of, what was it, Donald J. Trump Boulevard?
02:29:09.000 What can you tell us about that?
02:29:10.000 Yeah, Donald J. Trump Boulevard, of course.
02:29:13.000 I'm so grateful to have such an incredible president in office.
02:29:16.000 Common sense, honestly, that I can actually understand when he's in office and speaking and just make sense of everything that he's doing.
02:29:27.000 He's going to do it.
02:29:28.000 He does it.
02:29:28.000 I'm so grateful.
02:29:30.000 So I feel like, you know, there's only we need to honor him and the state where he lives and actually is right the street.
02:29:37.000 He, you know, he lives.
02:29:39.000 And in addition, the my other street naming is PBSO Motorman Highway, which is happens to be on the same street, Southern Boulevard, going west to honor the three officers.
02:29:55.000 That, you know, we're killed.
02:29:58.000 They're all on their bikes and they're hit by a car.
02:30:02.000 Terrible.
02:30:03.000 Well, thank you for everything that you're doing, fighting for the citizens of Florida, fighting for animals.
02:30:10.000 You do fantastic work and I appreciate everything that you're doing.
02:30:15.000 Where can people go to support you?
02:30:18.000 Because obviously, you know, you're going to have to...
02:30:35.000 Well, since we're still in session, there's no fundraising right now or campaigning, but they can follow me at megforflorida.com.
02:30:43.000 Before I leave, I'd love to pay a tribute and honor to Bernard Carrick.
02:30:49.000 Who was New York's commissioner and a dear friend and an unbelievable supporter.
02:30:54.000 I think he was a big reason that helped me get elected.
02:30:57.000 Bernie came from New York several times to not only speak at events for me, but sign wave and he was a big part.
02:31:03.000 So I just wanted to hope you don't mind.
02:31:04.000 I want to just...
02:31:07.000 We received this tragic news right as I was about to go live.
02:31:11.000 Bernard Carrick passed away.
02:31:13.000 I wasn't even aware that he had an illness.
02:31:15.000 I think I saw him last when I was having dinner with you and Eric just a few months ago, and so he didn't look sick, and it's just terrible.
02:31:24.000 I'm not really aware of what kind of illness he was battling.
02:31:27.000 I don't think a lot of people were aware of it.
02:31:29.000 It came as kind of a shock when I saw that he died, I thought, oh, there must have been a terrible accident or something,'cause.
02:31:39.000 So very sad.
02:31:41.000 I know that he was a supporter of mine too when I ran for Congress and a big supporter of President Trump's and a real patriot in our country and definitely want to pay our tributes to him and respects to his family now that they're grieving tonight following his timely passing.
02:32:01.000 So thank you.
02:32:04.000 Thank you so much, Laura.
02:32:05.000 I appreciate you.
02:32:06.000 Thank you for using your platform.
02:32:08.000 Animals appreciate it.
02:32:09.000 Thanks for coming on, and we look forward to having you on the program in the future.
02:32:15.000 Absolutely.
02:32:16.000 Thank you.
02:32:17.000 All right.
02:32:18.000 Love you, girlfriend.
02:32:18.000 Thank you.
02:32:19.000 Bye.
02:32:24.000 A lot of news tonight.
02:32:25.000 A lot of news.
02:32:26.000 Yeah, very sad with the passing of Bernard Carrick.
02:32:29.000 Tributes are pouring in across social media tonight, too.
02:32:33.000 Pretty much everybody all over Twitter right now is posting about it.
02:32:38.000 Very, very sad.
02:32:39.000 You never know when it's going to be your last day.
02:32:41.000 That's why you got to do everything that you can to make use of your time on this planet.
02:32:51.000 Any comments?
02:32:53.000 Any questions?
02:32:54.000 Meg's fantastic.
02:32:55.000 I love Meg.
02:32:56.000 I love Meg and her husband.
02:32:57.000 They're such great friends of mine.
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02:35:50.000 Let's see what else.
02:35:51.000 A lot going on.
02:35:56.000 In addition to President Trump revoking these visas of Chinese students, the White House actually announced that they were interested in vetting.
02:36:05.000 They were interested in carrying out Vetting of the social media accounts of foreign students.
02:36:13.000 Obviously, I'm always talking about the vetting crisis and how I would really love to be involved in vetting.
02:36:19.000 It's kind of funny.
02:36:20.000 The media loves just making everything I say.
02:36:23.000 It doesn't matter what I say.
02:36:24.000 They always make it into a big deal.
02:36:27.000 I said that it would be a dream job!
02:36:29.000 Which it would be to carry out the vetting of foreign students who are trying to come into our country so that I could find excuses, legitimate excuses, based off receipts and evidence, of course, to block them from coming into our country.
02:36:41.000 And so a lot of people actually said that I'd be great for the job.
02:36:45.000 And Meghan McCain, of all people, it was kind of surprising.
02:36:48.000 I think I've sparred with her a couple of times online.
02:36:50.000 She's actually had me blocked, unblocked me, urged Trump to hire Laura Loomer.
02:36:54.000 To research foreign students all day and find an excuse to block them.
02:36:58.000 That was very nice of Meghan McCain to say that about me.
02:36:58.000 So that was very nice.
02:37:01.000 We can scroll down and see the article.
02:37:05.000 Conservative commentator Meghan McCain offered her seal of approval on Wednesday for Laura Loomer to work in the Trump administration and vet the social media accounts of foreign students.
02:37:13.000 Loomer, the far-right activist and longtime conspiracy theorist, that's what they love to say, is best known for her outlandish rhetoric and having the ear of President Trump.
02:37:21.000 The White House is considering doing vetting on the social media accounts of foreign students.
02:37:25.000 Sounds like a dream job for me.
02:37:26.000 I would love to research foreign students all day and find an excuse to block them from coming into our country based on their radicalism.
02:37:33.000 Sign me up.
02:37:34.000 McCain, the former co-host of The View, turned online content creator, agreed with Loomer writing, legit give her this job.
02:37:41.000 So, that's great.
02:37:42.000 It's nice that even people who have disagreed with me in the past think that I'm qualified for that position.
02:37:49.000 And then there was a Daily Mail article about it as well.
02:37:52.000 Let's go ahead and get that posted up on the screen.
02:37:55.000 The Daily Mail decided to talk about it too.
02:37:59.000 Laura Loomer reveals dream job in White House as Trump turbocharges war on Ivy League schools and migrants.
02:38:05.000 Far-right activist Laura Loomer has revealed her dream job in Trump's White House just as the administration escalates its crackdown on international students and elite universities.
02:38:14.000 Loomer's tweet came hours after an internal State Department cable revealed that the Trump administration has ordered a freeze on new student visa interviews in anticipation of expanded surveillance protocols.
02:38:25.000 The administration plans to implement sweeping new social media screenings for all foreign students seeking to study in the United States.
02:38:32.000 Again, just another testament to President Trump's excellent leadership.
02:38:36.000 No other president has done this before, and it's really just such a no-brainer.
02:38:40.000 Why do we have so many hostile anti-American students from foreign nations in our country?
02:38:44.000 President Trump is doing what needs to be done to protect students, American students on these college campuses, and also to protect our national security.
02:38:52.000 So, bravo to President Trump, and it's great that they're doing this over at the State Department, too.
02:38:59.000 And as I've shown, right, there are some people in the White House and some people in the administration who could use some extra help with vetting, right?
02:39:08.000 There seems to be a bit of a vetting crisis.
02:39:09.000 And I would love to offer my services to assist in any capacity whatsoever because I support President Trump.
02:39:17.000 I support his agenda.
02:39:18.000 And I want to make America great again.
02:39:20.000 I want to make America safe again.
02:39:22.000 And having proper vetting is a great way to do it.
02:39:26.000 definitely be interested in assisting with these vetting operations.
02:39:29.000 Thank you.
02:39:30.000 Thank you.
02:39:35.000 see you Thank you.
02:39:44.000 Let's see what people are saying.
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02:40:13.000 Somebody said, did Teddy, Marnie said, did Teddy love his first beach experiment?
02:40:17.000 So I took Teddy to the beach the other day, my new puppy, and he didn't really like the water.
02:40:22.000 I think because he's a puppy, he was a little scared.
02:40:24.000 It was a little wavy and kind of, the waves were a little rough compared to the previous day.
02:40:32.000 So I think the waves scared him, but he definitely loved having all that sand to dig in.
02:40:36.000 I mean, he loves digging holes in the back of my yard, and I'm always like, no, Teddy, bad boy.
02:40:41.000 So, he loved digging in the sand on the beach.
02:40:43.000 He really enjoyed that.
02:40:45.000 He definitely liked his time at the beach.
02:40:48.000 The water, not so much.
02:40:52.000 The flaw hustler said they need to be interested in hiring you to vet.
02:40:56.000 Maybe.
02:40:56.000 Maybe someday.
02:40:57.000 Thank you.
02:40:58.000 Thank you.
02:41:02.000 Be sure that you're following me on X at Laura Loomer and also on X at Loomer Unleashed.
02:41:08.000 I have to travel next week to Washington, D.C. because I have to attend my deposition for Bill Maher and HBO.
02:41:15.000 I'm suing them in my lawsuit against Bill Maher and HBO for defamation.
02:41:20.000 And so I have to be there to prep for my deposition with my attorney and also attend my deposition.
02:41:25.000 And so Loomer Unleashed is going to be next Friday.
02:41:31.000 I wish that I could do multiple episodes next week, but unfortunately I have to attend some legal meetings for some personal matters, including my own lawsuit against Bill Maher.
02:41:41.000 And it's very costly.
02:41:43.000 Every time I have to go to one of these depositions, I have to pay for flights, I have to pay for my attorney's flights, I have to pay for hotels.
02:41:49.000 And so if you want to support my legal fees, you can do so by going to my GiveSendGo.
02:41:55.000 It's the GiveSendGo.com slash Loomer Lawfare.
02:41:59.000 This is the lawfare fund to support my legal battles, whether it's getting letters threatening me for my reporting from Soros entities like I did several months ago or having to travel to attend these depositions.
02:42:15.000 It helps cover the cost of the fees that I am accumulating for being under attack in the media.
02:42:25.000 Visit my Gibson Go if you want to support that.
02:42:28.000 But I will be in Washington, D.C. this next week for my deposition.
02:42:32.000 Not even allowed to talk about it legally because, well, they want me to keep it all confidential.
02:42:37.000 Isn't it funny?
02:42:38.000 Isn't it funny how Bill Maher can defame me and falsely accuse me of sleeping with the president and say terrible things about me?
02:42:44.000 Horrible things about me.
02:42:45.000 Defame my character and then, well, face no consequences.
02:42:50.000 And then he wants to demand that everything From the deposition is private and confidential, including the deposition tapes.
02:42:58.000 I just think it's so outrageous, but it is what it is, right?
02:43:02.000 We'll see what happens.
02:43:03.000 We will see what happens.
02:43:04.000 I will keep you all updated next week about what happens with that deposition.
02:43:11.000 But with that, thank you for tuning in tonight.
02:43:15.000 Please be sure that you're following me on Rumble, rumble.com slash Laura Loomer, and also on X at Laura Loomer and at Loomer Unleashed.
02:43:23.000 Be sure that you're following along my website, loomered.com, loomered.com for exclusive updates and reports, exclusive investigative reports every single day that you're not going to see anywhere else.
02:43:34.000 So be sure that you're following me for all of that.
02:43:37.000 And I will see you next week.
02:43:38.000 As I said, no Loomer Unleashed on Tuesday because I'm traveling.
02:43:42.000 No Loomer Unleashed on Thursday because I'm traveling.
02:43:44.000 I'll see you next Friday for another episode of Loomer Unleashed, but be sure that you are monitoring my social media because So with that, thanks so much for tuning in, and I hope you all have a wonderful weekend.
02:44:03.000 There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
02:44:12.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, her problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
02:44:19.000 Chained herself to Twitter.