Loomer Unleashed - EP128: Iran's Nuclear Program Goes BOOM

00:24:41.000 There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.

00:24:50.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems will be fixed in about five minutes. 0.95

00:24:56.000 Chained herself to Twitter.

00:24:57.000 She chained herself.

00:24:58.000 Chained herself.

00:25:28.000 Chained herself.

00:25:46.000 *sniff*

00:25:48.000 Good evening, and welcome to episode 128 of Loomer Unleashed.

00:25:52.000 I'm your host, Laura Loomer.

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00:26:33.000 Lots to talk about tonight.

00:26:35.000 Obviously, everybody is talking about the strike on Iran last night conducted by President Trump.

00:26:41.000 Bravo to President Trump and our brave V2 pilots who dropped these bombs on Iran's three nuclear facilities.

00:26:51.000 President Trump gave an address to the nation last night.

00:26:54.000 We have his truth social post.

00:26:55.000 We can pull his true social post up announcing this successful strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.

00:27:01.000 He says, we've completed our very successful attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordell, Nantaz, and Esfahan.

00:27:09.000 All planes are now outside of Iran airspace.

00:27:12.000 A full payload of bombs was dropped on the primary site of Fordelle.

00:27:18.000 All planes are safely on their way home.

00:27:19.000 Congratulations to our great American warriors.

00:27:22.000 There is not another military in the world that could have done this.

00:27:24.000 Now is the time for peace.

00:27:26.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.

00:27:29.000 And there's been a lot of discussion, not just within the MAGA base, but just everyone in general as to whether or not this was the right decision to make.

00:27:40.000 I personally think that it was the right decision to make.

00:27:43.000 For some reason, there are a lot of conservatives online who voted for President Trump the first time, voted for President Trump the second time, and they're now falsely accusing him of being a wartime president.

00:27:55.000 They're falsely accusing him of getting involved in another war when in reality, President Trump engaged in many military actions during his first term in office that didn't result in new wars.

00:28:08.000 For example, he carried out an airstrike from Mar-a-Lago on Qasem Soleimani, an Iranian terrorist, killing him.

00:28:15.000 He dropped a MOAB on terrorists from Afghanistan.

00:28:20.000 He conducted strikes in Syria as a result of chemical attacks.

00:28:25.000 He dropped bombs on al-Shabaab terrorists in Africa.

00:28:29.000 I mean, there's many examples.

00:28:30.000 Look at the raid on al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, in which President Trump famously said he died like a dog.

00:28:37.000 There are many acts of bombings, right?

00:28:41.000 Attacks, airstrikes, whatever you want to call them, that have been carried out by the Trump administration during his first term.

00:28:47.000 And now, you know, we're seeing this one in his second term.

00:28:50.000 And ironically, a lot of the same people who are now coming out of the woodwork to attack President Trump, calling him a warmonger, calling him a neocon, saying that he broke his campaign promises.

00:29:02.000 They were all cheering when President Trump killed Qasim Soleimani.

00:29:05.000 These are the same people who were cheering when President Trump conducted airstrikes on al-Shabaab in Africa. 0.61

00:29:11.000 These were the same people who cheered when President Trump conducted airstrikes on Russian contractors in Syria.

00:29:18.000 These are the same people who cheered when President Trump hunted down the leader of ISIS and killed him. 0.97

00:29:24.000 These are the same people who cheered when President Trump bombed the shit out of ISIS, as he promised he would do when he first ran for president and as he promised to continue to do. 0.98

00:29:34.000 He effectively destroyed ISIS. 0.99

00:29:37.000 So I just want to know where the hypocrisy is coming from.

00:29:40.000 Just because you conduct a very coordinated strike, a very coordinated and strategic bombing on a location, you are making sure that there's no civilians who are targeted.

00:29:52.000 You're solely targeting the nuclear facilities.

00:29:56.000 I don't really understand why people are accusing President Trump of being a wartime president and dragging us into war when there's many examples of President Trump conducting very similar strikes.

00:30:07.000 And all these people had no problem with it.

00:30:09.000 They campaigned for him a second time around.

00:30:11.000 Some of these people that weren't for Trump during his first term came around during the disastrous campaign of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris a second time around, and they said that they were endorsing and supporting President Trump.

00:30:23.000 But, you know, if you've been following my ex account this week, then you see that there's more than meets the eye.

00:30:29.000 What do I mean by that?

00:30:30.000 Well, we already saw the FARA forms that I posted online that show that a lobbyist organized the interview, if that's even what you want to call it, between the prime minister of Qatar and Tucker Carlson.

00:30:45.000 The lobbyist works for a company called Luminate Advisors, based out of Virginia, where they are paid $180,000 a month by Qatar to set up media and set up communications and interviews With conservative media personalities for the sake of influencing policy.

00:31:05.000 So, Tucker Carlson obviously knew that he was engaged in Qatari propaganda when he agreed to do this interview.

00:31:12.000 He flew all the way to Qatar, and the discussion during this interview, if that's even what you want to call it, I just call it straight up propaganda, Qatari propaganda, was the war in Iran.

00:31:23.000 Now, what do we know about Qatar?

00:31:24.000 We know that Qatar is funding Hamas and they're funding Hezbollah.

00:31:28.000 They're funding these Iranian proxies. 0.61

00:31:30.000 And why would Qatar be interested in having a well-known conservative podcaster, a well-known conservative media figure, used to work for Fox News before he was fired, curate propaganda for Qatar regarding Iran?

00:31:46.000 Why would they want that?

00:31:47.000 Why would Tucker Carlson agree to that if he was truly doing his job as a journalist?

00:31:52.000 I'm a journalist.

00:31:53.000 I do not take money from foreign governments to arrange meetings and interviews for the sake of influencing Americans into thinking more positively about another country.

00:32:07.000 I'm a journalist.

00:32:08.000 I don't have lobbyists telling me who to interview and arranging interviews for my show.

00:32:14.000 That's not journalism.

00:32:15.000 That is called propaganda.

00:32:17.000 And it's also very deceptive.

00:32:18.000 And not only is it deceptive, but it's un-American. 0.54

00:32:21.000 And so I would just encourage a lot of you who are getting your news from Twitter, getting your news from social media to be very cautious about the sudden 180 that you're seeing from a lot of these so-called influencers and podcasters who have a anti-Trump tune all of a sudden out of the blue, who have over the years criticized the Iranian regime, who have stood with Israel, who have praised President Trump for being an anti-war president.

00:32:49.000 Suddenly you're seeing a lot of these people shift their tune, shift their narrative, and they're attacking President Trump with falsehoods, saying that he's dragging us into war, saying that he's owned by Israel, saying things like he's a Jewish propagandist and that Israel controls our country.

00:33:07.000 And yet, if you look at the things that some of these people like Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens or the Hodge twins or some of these other larger accounts online are saying, it was completely opposite several years ago to what they are saying now.

00:33:20.000 And every single time I see people do such a pivot, I always ask, what changed, right?

00:33:25.000 Are they being paid for these opinions?

00:33:27.000 Are they getting paid to post?

00:33:28.000 What is the real reason that their opinion has all of a sudden changed?

00:33:33.000 Because President Trump hasn't changed.

00:33:35.000 He's still the same guy who ran in 2016.

00:33:37.000 He's still the same guy who ran in 2020.

00:33:38.000 He's still the same guy who ran in 2024.

00:33:41.000 President Trump has always promised that he was going to make sure Iran could not have a nuclear weapon.

00:33:46.000 And so promises made, promises kept.

00:33:49.000 And here we have President Trump's remarks.

00:33:51.000 If you missed his remarks last night, it was very brief.

00:33:53.000 It was about four minutes from the White House.

00:33:55.000 And after he left the situation room, he gave these remarks at the White House with J.D. Vance and Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio standing behind him.

00:34:05.000 So let's go ahead and play the remarks for those of you who may have missed them because it's important for you to hear what President Trump said.

00:34:13.000 Because as I said, there is a massive propaganda campaign going on right now.

00:34:18.000 And I've never seen anything like this.

00:34:19.000 I have never seen the amount of Russian, Chinese, and Iranian bot networks that are trying to, you know, convince people that the CCP is good, to convince people that the Iranian regime is good, to convince people that, you know, President Trump is owned by Israel.

00:34:35.000 I have never seen so many bots.

00:34:36.000 And how do I know they're bots?

00:34:38.000 People will say, oh, well, how do you know these are bot accounts?

00:34:40.000 Because it's not possible to make a post and then within 30 seconds of that post being live, having 500 comments that are all reiterating the same exact thing.

00:34:51.000 Some of these posts are very long replies.

00:34:53.000 It's not possible to type that fast and it's not possible for there to be 500 replies on a post within 30 seconds of a post being posted unless it is actively being attacked by bot networks.

00:35:04.000 So let's go ahead and play President Trump's remarks.

00:35:06.000 A short time ago, the U.S. military carried out massive precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the Iranian regime, Ford, Natans, and Isfahan.

00:35:22.000 Everybody heard those names for years as they built this horribly destructive enterprise.

00:35:30.000 Our objective was the destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number one state sponsor of terror. 0.99

00:35:41.000 Tonight, I can report to the world that the strikes were a spectacular military success.

00:35:49.000 Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.

00:35:55.000 Iran, the bully of the Middle East, must now make peace. 1.00

00:35:59.000 If they do not, future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier. 0.99

00:36:04.000 For 40 years, Iran has been saying, death to America, death to Israel. 0.98

00:36:10.000 They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, blowing off their legs with roadside bombs. 0.99

00:36:16.000 That was their specialty.

00:36:17.000 We lost over a thousand people, and hundreds of thousands throughout the Middle East and around the world have died as a direct result of their hate.

00:36:26.000 In particular, so many were killed by their general, Qasem Soleimani.

00:36:33.000 I decided a long time ago that I would not let this happen.

00:36:37.000 It will not continue.

00:36:39.000 I want to thank and congratulate Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu.

00:36:44.000 We worked as a team like perhaps no team has ever worked before.

00:36:49.000 And we've gone a long way to erasing this horrible threat to Israel. 0.91

00:36:53.000 I want to thank the Israeli military for the wonderful job they've done.

00:36:58.000 And most importantly, I want to congratulate the great American patriots who flew those magnificent machines tonight and all of the United States military on an operation the likes of which the world has not seen in many, many decades.

00:37:12.000 Hopefully, we will no longer need their services in this capacity.

00:37:17.000 I hope that's so.

00:37:18.000 I also want to congratulate the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Raisenkaine, spectacular general, and all of the brilliant military minds involved in this attack.

00:37:30.000 With all of that being said, this cannot continue.

00:37:33.000 There will be either peace or there will be tragedy for Iran far greater than we have witnessed over the last eight days. 0.92

00:37:42.000 Remember, there are many targets left.

00:37:45.000 Tonight's was the most difficult of them all by far, and perhaps the most lethal.

00:37:52.000 But if peace does not come quickly, we will go after those other targets with precision, speed, and skill.

00:38:00.000 Most of them can be taken out in a matter of minutes.

00:38:04.000 There's no military in the world that could have done what we did tonight, not even close.

00:38:09.000 There has never been a military that could do what took place just a little while ago.

00:38:14.000 Tomorrow, General Kane, Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, will have a press conference at 8 a.m.

00:38:21.000 at the Pentagon.

00:38:23.000 And I want to just thank everybody.

00:38:25.000 And in particular, God, I want to just say we love you, God, and we love our great military.

00:38:32.000 Protect them.

00:38:34.000 God bless the Middle East.

00:38:36.000 God bless Israel.

00:38:37.000 And God bless America.

00:38:39.000 Thank you very much.

00:38:40.000 Thank you.

00:38:43.000 Strong remarks from President Trump.

00:38:45.000 And if you're watching the previous episode of Loomer Unleashed, then you know that we played the 17-minute long clip.

00:38:50.000 And I read all the quotes of President Trump for years on end talking about how Iran must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.

00:38:57.000 And I just want to show you this interesting tweet that I posted earlier today so that you can see how phenomenal President Trump is and what a leader he is.

00:39:05.000 We've been told since, you know, the 90s, right?

00:39:08.000 Look at Bill Clinton.

00:39:09.000 We are determined to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

00:39:13.000 Did that ever happen?

00:39:14.000 No.

00:39:15.000 George W. Bush, 2006.

00:39:17.000 Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons, period.

00:39:20.000 Barack Obama, 2015.

00:39:22.000 I have stated that Iran will never be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon.

00:39:25.000 Ironic, given that he helped them develop their nuclear program.

00:39:29.000 Joe Biden, we will not allow Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon.

00:39:33.000 2022.

00:39:34.000 He gave Iran $16 billion and didn't even conduct an investigation into his own Iranian envoy who was essentially running a spy ring.

00:39:44.000 And then Donald Trump, Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.

00:39:49.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.

00:39:51.000 So President Trump is the only president that we have ever had who not only promised that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, but he actually acted on it.

00:39:59.000 And everybody knew when President Trump was campaigning that this was a promise that he made.

00:40:05.000 What did they want him to do?

00:40:06.000 Not complete this promise, not do good on his promise.

00:40:12.000 So for these so-called conservatives who are now pretending like, oh, we didn't vote for this.

00:40:17.000 We didn't vote for Donald Trump to strike Iran.

00:40:20.000 We didn't vote for Donald Trump to strike these nuclear facilities.

00:40:23.000 As J.D. Vance said this morning, we're not at war with Iran.

00:40:27.000 We're at war with their nuclear program.

00:40:29.000 We didn't bomb Iran.

00:40:30.000 We bombed their nuclear facilities.

00:40:32.000 And so when people say, oh, well, you are very critical, Laura, of Nikki Haley saying that we should bomb Iran.

00:40:39.000 Well, there's a difference between just dropping bombs in an unrestricted manner on civilians for no purpose whatsoever, killing civilians, killing innocent people, and dropping bombs in a very coordinated and strategic strike that Pete Hagseth, our Secretary of Defense, said that it's been in the works for months, months of preparation.

00:41:01.000 And so we have that clip.

00:41:03.000 We can go ahead and play that clip.

00:41:04.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number two.

00:41:07.000 This is a plan that took months and weeks of positioning and preparation so that we could be ready when the President of the United States called.

00:41:18.000 It took a great deal of precision.

00:41:20.000 It involved misdirection and the highest of operational security.

00:41:27.000 Our B-2s went in and out of downtown Tehran, not Tehran, excuse me, of these nuclear sites, in and out and back without the world knowing at all.

00:41:38.000 In that way, it was historic.

00:41:40.000 A strike that included the longest B-2 spirit bomber mission since 2001 and the first operational employment of the MOP, a massive ordnance penetrator.

00:41:54.000 A lot of people are saying things like, well, you know, it's not America first.

00:41:58.000 It's not America first that we got involved.

00:41:59.000 It's not America first that we decided to strike Iran's nuclear facilities. 0.66

00:42:04.000 I don't know what is more America first than making sure that genocidal Muslims who chant death to America can't obtain a nuclear weapon and potentially fire that nuclear weapon against the United States of America. 1.00

00:42:14.000 If anything, all of these ingrates should be saying thank you to President Trump for saving us from a nuclear holocaust. 0.78

00:42:20.000 And if people had any sense about them, they would be calling for Donald Trump to receive the Nobel Peace Prize for saving humanity from a nuclear holocaust.

00:42:28.000 And yes, Iran did have access to nuclear weapons.

00:42:31.000 Yes, Iran did develop nuclear weapons.

00:42:33.000 President Trump said so himself.

00:42:35.000 And look, they're saying, oh, well, you know, we're just repeating the time of Bush, weapons of mass destruction.

00:42:40.000 Who was one of the biggest critics of President Bush and his claim that there were weapons of mass destruction?

00:42:46.000 Who was one of the biggest critics of the invasion of Iraq and the invasion of Afghanistan?

00:42:51.000 President Trump.

00:42:52.000 Even before it was popular to do so, President Trump was anti-war.

00:42:55.000 Even before it was popular to do so, he was calling for Bush to resign over the invasion of Iraq and the claim that there were weapons of mass destruction.

00:43:04.000 And so President Trump is trusted.

00:43:07.000 This is why we voted for President Trump, because he's a leader.

00:43:10.000 He leads with strength.

00:43:11.000 I trust President Trump.

00:43:12.000 President Trump's not going to lie to the American people and tell the American people that Iran has nuclear capabilities if Iran does not have nuclear capabilities.

00:43:20.000 So if people are unsatisfied, then they can leave.

00:43:22.000 But again, a lot of the people that are sowing this discord are not true Trump supporters.

00:43:27.000 As I discussed on my show the other day, these are people that came over from the coalition of Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr., Democrats, right?

00:43:35.000 People that were always against President Trump up until about three months before the election when they decided, okay, Trump's going to make a deal with RFK.

00:43:42.000 We're going to get our guy in the cabinet.

00:43:44.000 He's going to address the issues with vaccines, which, you know, he's not addressing.

00:43:48.000 So there's kind of been a bit of a 182 with regards to all the promises that RFK Jr. promised as it relates to make America healthy again.

00:43:55.000 And Tulsi Gabbard was made the director of DNI.

00:44:00.000 And we've gone over this.

00:44:01.000 My last show, you can go and watch it.

00:44:03.000 I showed all the receipts. 1.00

00:44:04.000 Tulsi Gabbard called President Trump Saudi Arabia's bitch. 0.99

00:44:06.000 Tulsi Gabbard said that President Trump lied about Iran when he said in 2020 Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. 0.99

00:44:15.000 He has not lied.

00:44:16.000 President Trump has been saying Iran can never have a nuclear weapon since before he launched his presidential campaign 10 years ago.

00:44:22.000 So it's important to understand that this is being done on purpose to destabilize the party, to draw people away from MAGA.

00:44:32.000 Why would these Democrats want to draw people away from MAGA?

00:44:35.000 Because they're trying to secure their own political future over the next 3.5 years.

00:44:40.000 Look, it's very important for people to understand that Donald Trump is not going to be able to run for president again after these next 3.5 years.

00:44:47.000 It's going to be the end of an era.

00:44:49.000 We don't really have anybody in the GOP who has what it takes to be his heir.

00:44:53.000 Donald Trump is irreplaceable.

00:44:55.000 Donald Trump is one of a kind.

00:44:56.000 Donald Trump is a world-class leader, and nobody is really going to be able to replicate his energy, his aura, or his leadership, or the inspiration that he has injected, not just into our own political sphere and our own political culture here in the United States of America, but really all around the world.

00:45:16.000 How many candidates have we seen all around the world try to brand themselves as Trumpian candidates, right?

00:45:22.000 Or they try to create their own version of make America great again, but in their own respective countries, right?

00:45:28.000 We saw this with Malay, who was able to win his election in Argentina.

00:45:32.000 We've seen it all around the world because Donald Trump is an iconic political figure.

00:45:36.000 And so there's a lot of people that don't want the Republican Party to remain in power and they're trying to create chaos.

00:45:44.000 They're trying to sow division so that we can get Democrats back in office or so that the MAGA base does not show up so that they basically suppress their own voter turnout.

00:45:54.000 This is exactly what you voted for.

00:45:56.000 You voted for Donald Trump, who said we're going to make sure Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

00:46:01.000 He gave them 60 days.

00:46:02.000 They refused to comply.

00:46:04.000 He tried to do this peacefully.

00:46:05.000 He tried to do this without dropping bombs, but they refused to comply.

00:46:10.000 And then they started chanting death to America and threatening to attack U.S. military bases.

00:46:14.000 So as far as I'm concerned, Donald Trump already tried to address this in a peaceful manner.

00:46:19.000 And it's not like he went out of his way to murder people.

00:46:23.000 He clearly said he vetoed Netanyahu's plan to assassinate Khameni, the supreme leader of Iran.

00:46:30.000 If Donald Trump really wanted regime change, and he said today that if Iran is not able to resolve their issues and, as he said, make Iran great again, then the people are going to have to take it upon themselves to implement regime change.

00:46:43.000 He's not saying we're going to go in and do regime change.

00:46:46.000 He's trying to allow Iran and their leaders and the people of Iran to make these decisions themselves.

00:46:53.000 But they have not been compliant.

00:46:54.000 They continue to oppress the people of Iran. 0.96

00:46:56.000 They continue to chant death to America.

00:46:59.000 They've turned off the internet in Iran so that the poor, oppressed people of Iran have no access to information and they're unable to see how weak their supreme leader is.

00:47:07.000 They're unable to see the fact that the United States just took out their nuclear facilities.

00:47:14.000 It's a very fragile state of affairs.

00:47:16.000 And no, President Trump is not a warmonger, but if somebody doesn't come to the table when you offer them a peaceful solution, that's their problem.

00:47:26.000 That's not your problem.

00:47:27.000 And it becomes their problem because, you know, 90 million people should not have to suffer.

00:47:34.000 And 400 million Americans should not have to live in fear of being attacked by Iranian proxies.

00:47:40.000 They shouldn't have to live in fear of being struck by a nuclear weapon because these genocidal Muslims don't want to come to the table for a peace deal after President Trump has made countless attempts to bring them to the table. 1.00

00:47:53.000 So as far as I'm concerned, President Trump is doing what is right for our country.

00:47:58.000 Before we bring in our guests, I want to play this one clip from JD Vance explaining why they made the decision to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities and how we are not at war with Iran.

00:48:08.000 Instead, we are at war with their nuclear program.

00:48:10.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number 19. And most importantly, we trust what the intelligence was telling us about the Iranians stonewalling the negotiation. 0.99

00:48:19.000 I think that is really the hidden story here and something the media has got to report a little bit more here is that the Iranians stopped negotiating in good faith.

00:48:28.000 That was the real catalyst, I think, to what the president ultimately decided to do.

00:48:33.000 If we were having a productive negotiation, I think that this could have gone in a much different pathway.

00:48:38.000 Unfortunately, the Iranians decided to stonewall us and we saw the consequences of that last night. 1.00

00:48:47.000 We're going to continue with our coverage on President Trump's strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, but there's something else that I want to focus on and it's not really getting a lot of attention.

00:48:57.000 And in my opinion, it's a very serious matter that is being hidden as a result of all of this chaos and conflict.

00:49:04.000 You see, one of the things that I like to focus on when conflict breaks out, whether it's the Ukraine-Russia war or the conflict between Israel and Hamas or now this new conflict between Israel and Iran and the bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities, I always think to myself, what are our politicians trying to distract us from?

00:49:25.000 I'm not talking about President Trump.

00:49:26.000 I'm talking about members of Congress.

00:49:29.000 I'm talking about the media.

00:49:30.000 What are they trying to hide from us?

00:49:31.000 What are things that they're trying to slip under the rug, hoping that we're not going to notice because we're so focused on the conflict and we're so focused on this debate and all the controversy online and all the attacks on President Trump and all of the division and all of these foreign influence networks that are trying to divide MAGA, trying to attack President Trump, trying to sow discord and distrust in the Trump administration.

00:49:56.000 And one of those things that you all need to be aware of and you should contact your representatives about is Senator Tom Tillis's new piece of legislation that he quietly slipped into the Big Beautiful bill with the permission of Mike Johnson called Tackling Predatory Litigation Funding Act, Senate Bill 1821.

00:50:17.000 And you probably are wondering how a lot of lawsuits are paid for against mega corporations when individuals, and I have experience with this because I've taken on companies like Google and Facebook and Twitter and Apple.

00:50:34.000 A lot of you who've been watching my show for years now and following me know that I've sued some of the biggest corporations in our country.

00:50:41.000 I'm still involved in litigation, actually.

00:50:43.000 And my RICO case is actually going to be going to the Supreme Court.

00:50:48.000 You know, I filed this massive lawsuit against these big tech social media companies, and I had to raise all that money myself, right?

00:50:54.000 It was very difficult.

00:50:55.000 It was very financially taxing.

00:50:56.000 It was very hard for me to take on these powerful companies that are worth billions of dollars and collectively worth over a trillion dollars.

00:51:04.000 And so how do everyday people who want to get justice and accountability pay for litigation against banks, right?

00:51:12.000 We saw recently there were lawsuits filed against Bank of America for deplatforming conservatives.

00:51:18.000 How do people take on tobacco companies?

00:51:20.000 How do people take on products like Roundup, right?

00:51:24.000 How are these lawsuits paid for?

00:51:26.000 Well, it's paid for through litigation financing.

00:51:29.000 And joining me now to discuss how Tom Tillis' bill is waging a war on litigation financing to kill the industry of litigation financing, which would ultimately deprive everyday Americans of being able to get true justice and accountability in our legal system is Ashley Keller, a trial lawyer who specializes in this.

00:51:51.000 So Ashley, thank you so much for joining me tonight on Lumer Unleashed.

00:51:56.000 I know that this is kind of a niche subject.

00:51:58.000 It really hasn't received a lot of reporting, but as I just said, as somebody who has taken on these companies and I know firsthand how difficult it was to raise the money to pay for my litigation.

00:52:12.000 And at some points, I didn't know if I was going to be able to continue.

00:52:15.000 I wish I would have been able to have access to litigation finance.

00:52:20.000 I wish.

00:52:20.000 It probably would have made my life a lot easier.

00:52:23.000 So what can you tell us about your experience working as a trial lawyer and how litigation finance helps everyday people get justice and accountability?

00:52:35.000 I can tell you a lot.

00:52:37.000 So first, thanks a lot for having me on the show.

00:52:39.000 I love your brand of investigative journalism and what you're doing to help President Trump make America great again.

00:52:45.000 Obviously, the focus right now in the news is geopolitics, as it should be.

00:52:49.000 But as you note, this is a really important domestic economic issue.

00:52:54.000 And I think folks like Senator Tillis are hoping that he can just sneak it in at the 11th hour to the big beautiful bill and get it enacted at the behest of the chamber.

00:53:03.000 So let me just quickly set the stage to pick up on some of your remarks.

00:53:07.000 To my mind, there are two types of Republicans today.

00:53:11.000 The first group realizes what time it is and recognizes that the Chamber of Commerce and the C-suite grandees that finance it are not friends of conservatives.

00:53:21.000 Those are people like Senator Lee, Senator Young, Senator Paul, Senator Schmidt, the Scotts, Senator Hawley, among others.

00:53:30.000 And then there are people like Senator Tillis, who I don't think have gotten the memo yet on that.

00:53:35.000 They think this is your grandfather's Republican Party and that big companies can do no wrong and that the only thing they really want from government is a free market so that they can make products and services that people want.

00:53:46.000 And they're going to stay out of politics and for the most part, stay on the right side of legal lines.

00:53:52.000 And I think you and I both know that that first group of Republicans is the correct group of Republicans.

00:53:58.000 Corporations are engaging in widespread misbehavior today.

00:54:03.000 And for the most part, that misbehavior, I think, is really bad for conservatives.

00:54:08.000 So whether it's stealing your data, throttling conservative speech, depressing wages by hiring illegal labor, discriminating flagrantly on the basis of race, that's the sort of stuff that corporations are engaged in today.

00:54:24.000 And they're going to people like Senator Tillis and essentially saying, make it easier for us to get away with this.

00:54:30.000 What do you do if you're the victim of some of this corporate misbehavior?

00:54:36.000 Well, in our legal system, what you have to do is you have to sue.

00:54:39.000 That's how you get the compensation to compensate you for these injuries that the corporations are inflicting.

00:54:46.000 And that's the thing, too, is a lot of people feel that they can't sue because the first thing that happens is when you go to a lawyer, they say, okay, well, you got to give me a upfront retainer of $100,000.

00:54:56.000 And then you have everyday people who may not even be making $100,000 a year saying, well, I can't afford that.

00:55:04.000 I can't afford to go bankrupt.

00:55:05.000 I have no money to sue.

00:55:06.000 And then a lot of lawyers, they say, well, you know, this is going to be a very expensive case and it's going to take a lot of time and you have to give me the money upfront.

00:55:14.000 And a lot of people end up just getting completely screwed out of any justice and accountability.

00:55:18.000 Good people who are fired.

00:55:21.000 I mean, we saw a lot of this, especially during COVID, a lot of discriminatory practices where people were fired because they were forced to take a vaccine and they either didn't want to take a vaccine.

00:55:30.000 Under the Biden administration, we saw a lot of companies implement DEI practices.

00:55:34.000 They were discriminatory hiring practices against white people, the firing of white people, the firing of heterosexual people that didn't want to buy into the LGBTQ nonsense in our country. 0.64

00:55:46.000 And so a lot of people have their lives completely turned upside down.

00:55:50.000 And what this bill would do, this, it's called, and I love how, I love how deceptive he is with the semantics here.

00:55:58.000 Tackling Predatory Litigation Funding Act is what he called.

00:56:01.000 What's predatory is the way that these corporations target people, knowing that everyday Americans don't have the money to fight back in a legal system against a corporation or a company or a government.

00:56:13.000 I mean, there are people that have been able to sue governments with litigation financing.

00:56:17.000 It's not just companies.

00:56:18.000 There are people who have filed litigation lawsuits financed by litigation finance against terrorist organizations.

00:56:26.000 A lot of families of American soldiers who have been murdered by Islamic terrorists or people who have filed lawsuits against governments that prop up terrorist regimes that have killed Americans.

00:56:39.000 These lawsuits are funded with litigation finance.

00:56:43.000 And so if anything is predatory, it's Tom Tillis.

00:56:46.000 He's the predator in this situation, in my opinion.

00:56:50.000 Well, I think you have a lot of that exactly right.

00:56:52.000 You brought up terrorist organizations.

00:56:54.000 The PLO was engaged in terrorist activity, and the victims have been waiting decades to get Their access to justice.

00:57:01.000 You talked about $100,000.

00:57:04.000 Unfortunately, high-stakes litigation, you need to add at least two zeros to that.

00:57:09.000 And these huge corporations love that that's the way our legal system works because they have billions, if not trillions of dollars, not of their own money, but of other people's money.

00:57:19.000 They have shared.

00:57:21.000 I know that litigation costs more than that.

00:57:23.000 I'm saying $100,000 upfront.

00:57:25.000 When I was trying to take on big tech, I had some lawyers tell me, okay, you have to give me $100,000 upfront to start.

00:57:31.000 And that's just to start.

00:57:33.000 They wanted to have $100,000.

00:57:35.000 And that doesn't last long, right?

00:57:38.000 You could blow through $100,000 within two months.

00:57:41.000 And so a lot of attorneys now want money upfront.

00:57:45.000 And instead of you paying them as they go, you know how this works.

00:57:48.000 You're a lawyer.

00:57:49.000 And it just makes it very difficult for people who they think long term.

00:57:54.000 They're like, well, it's going to ultimately be more than that.

00:57:57.000 And I don't have the money.

00:57:58.000 And I don't see how I could ever have that much money.

00:58:01.000 Yeah, I'm privileged to work for the state of Texas and a coalition of states leading the antitrust charge against Google for monopolizing the ad tech stack.

00:58:09.000 The people of Texas have already invested tens of millions of dollars in experts and consultants because these cases are extremely expensive.

00:58:17.000 And so those big companies, they have access to law firms with thousands of lawyers.

00:58:22.000 They're more than happy to pump tens of millions of dollars into these lawsuits. 0.94

00:58:27.000 How do the flesh and blood little people get access to justice? 1.00

00:58:30.000 They need access to capital too.

00:58:32.000 And that's what the litigation finance industry supplies.

00:58:35.000 Senator Tillis' legislation is premised on the idea that the Chinese Communist Party is investing in these lawsuits.

00:58:42.000 I've never heard of a single example of the CCP investing in U.S. litigation.

00:58:48.000 But if we want to ban the CCP from investing in the United States, I think that's a great idea.

00:58:53.000 Let's pass that bill.

00:58:54.000 Let's not raise the tax rate on litigation finance for firefighters and pension funds to 41%.

00:59:00.000 Let's not prevent litigation financiers from offsetting their gains with losses.

00:59:05.000 The bill says if you make a million dollars on this investment, you pay 41% tax.

00:59:10.000 Even if you lost $1 million on this other investment, no other industry is subjected to that tax treatment.

00:59:16.000 So all of the rationales that Senator Tillis is offering for his legislation very respectfully, I think, are pretextual.

00:59:24.000 What are some other cases that you've been involved in that you can use as some examples for people to understand how litigation financing was able to bring justice and accountability for people affected by wrongdoing of many corporations or governments?

00:59:44.000 I'm sure that you have many cases that come to mind.

00:59:47.000 You mentioned Google, of course, but maybe you have several other examples as well, just so people can see how diverse this is and the options that are available if somebody were to utilize litigation finance and how many people are being affected in a positive manner by litigation finance.

01:00:07.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:08.000 So the way that TALIS legislation defines litigation finance, even a loan to a plaintiff's firm is going to count.

01:00:16.000 And so my firm and lots of firms across the country rely on bank loans and similar types of capital provision in order to run our businesses.

01:00:24.000 We don't get regular cash flow.

01:00:26.000 We only get paid when we win.

01:00:28.000 We recently secured with Co-Counsel and the Attorney General's office in Texas a $1.4 billion settlement for Meta's violation of Texas's biometric privacy law.

01:00:40.000 Texas was essentially taking Instagram images and screening the biometric information on everybody's face and then storing that in their database, obviously for their profit, without consent from Texans, without consent from people who weren't even on Facebook's platform.

01:00:57.000 If you went out with your girlfriends one night and took a picture and put it on Instagram, even if they weren't members of Facebook's platform, Facebook was screening their facial recognition technology and using it for their own purposes.

01:01:10.000 So that's a good illustration.

01:01:13.000 We represent flesh and blood people all of the time in litigation.

01:01:18.000 So Robert Mallory, who was injured by Norfolk Southern after spending years at the railroad company, he developed cancer from carcinogens from cleaning the cars.

01:01:29.000 His case had to go all the way to the Supreme Court.

01:01:33.000 He was up against Carter Phillips, a great appellate advocate at Sidley Austin, an Amlaw 10 firm.

01:01:40.000 That wouldn't have been possible without capital.

01:01:42.000 So just about every case that plaintiffs' lawyers touch is going to be financed in some respect.

01:01:48.000 And yes, there are some very fortunate plaintiffs' lawyers, and I'm very fortunate to be among them who are able to put in a lot of their own capital.

01:01:56.000 But these lawsuits are so expensive to bring access to justice to real people, to real Americans, you need to have access to capital.

01:02:04.000 And that's why I think you're seeing a lot of conservative voices like Gene Hamilton and Adam Mortara come out against the TILUS legislation.

01:02:12.000 They know it's not good for conservative causes and the Make America Great Again agenda.

01:02:17.000 Well, and I think it's also interesting how he slipped this in during a time of conflict.

01:02:22.000 So he knows that people are not going to be paying attention to this right now.

01:02:28.000 He also slipped it in right before Congress decided to go back to their home districts for a week, right last week when they weren't in session.

01:02:36.000 So it's not like they could be confronted about this or asked about this in Washington, D.C., up on the Hill.

01:02:41.000 And it appears that Mike Johnson has given him, you know, a wink and a nod and approval to get this done.

01:02:46.000 And so for people who aren't aware, the Big Beautiful bill is expected to be voted on between July 1st and July 4th.

01:02:55.000 And so we're really running out of time here.

01:02:58.000 I mean, if you look at today's, what, June 22nd, people only have about 10 or 11 more days or so to contact their representatives and to tell them to put pressure on Tom Tillis, Senator Tom Tillis, who, by the way, is a total Trump hater and a total rhino.

01:03:13.000 He was censured by the North Carolina Republican Party for being such a rhino, for supporting trans issues and for voting against funding for President Trump's border wall.

01:03:26.000 I just think of the fact that he's calling this the Tackling Predatory Litigation Funding Act, it's really interesting because I guess one lawsuit that could potentially be filed in the future is a lawsuit against NGOs, right?

01:03:39.000 You could potentially sue NGOs for facilitating the invasion of our country, which resulted in illegal aliens killing Americans.

01:03:47.000 So that could be a potential lawsuit.

01:03:50.000 And why would Tom Tillis, who voted against President Trump's funding for a border wall, want to see a lawsuit like that?

01:03:57.000 I mean, there's so many things that are, you know, with this, with this, if this bill, if this legislation is included in the Big Beautiful bill and it's not killed off, so many people, millions of Americans are going to be deprived the ability to get justice.

01:04:15.000 And, you know, this doesn't even just pertain to active lawsuits, cases that are already ongoing.

01:04:20.000 Think of all of the examples.

01:04:22.000 I just gave an example right now.

01:04:24.000 Came to my mind.

01:04:25.000 If somebody wanted to potentially sue NGOs for facilitating an invasion, say they had a family member that was raped and killed by an illegal alien who came in with an NGO.

01:04:37.000 What's going to happen when that family member tries to sue and they don't have the money to sue and then they're told that they can't get financing?

01:04:44.000 How many people are unaware of this?

01:04:46.000 How many people are going to be deprived the ability to get justice or take legal action in the future, even if they wanted to?

01:04:53.000 I haven't seen any news coverage about this.

01:04:55.000 So I'm just kind of shocked, especially given the fact that President Trump campaigned on weaponization of the justice system, weaponization of lawfare.

01:05:03.000 I mean, if anything, I think that this is a form of weaponized lawfare, right?

01:05:07.000 In the inverse, though, because it's a weaponization of justice.

01:05:12.000 It's siding with these greedy corporations and siding with governments, siding with the powerful elite, siding with the globalists, everything that President Trump campaigned against.

01:05:23.000 And I don't think that President Trump would support this.

01:05:26.000 In fact, I know that the America First Legal Institute issued a statement saying that they oppose this.

01:05:31.000 They're opposing Tom Tillis's legislation that he snuck inside the bill.

01:05:36.000 So it's important for people to just think, like, what have you found yourself victimized by a corporation?

01:05:41.000 What have you found yourself victimized by, you know, the mega corporation you work for for discriminatory practices?

01:05:48.000 What have you found yourself a victim of a horrendous crime and some multinational organization or terrorist organization or NGO was responsible?

01:05:59.000 I just think of all the people that are going to be victimized in the future who are not going to be able to get justice.

01:06:06.000 You've got it exactly right.

01:06:09.000 I'm going to only slightly disagree with you.

01:06:12.000 I would not focus people's energy on Senator Tillis.

01:06:15.000 This is his baby, and I think he's a lost cause.

01:06:17.000 There are so many MAGA Republicans in the Senate who, if they are only made aware of this issue, are going to come around to the right side. 0.58

01:06:26.000 I'm refusing to be a cynic.

01:06:27.000 I'm an optimist, and I think you bringing attention to this issue is going to be the key to stripping it out of the big, beautiful bill.

01:06:34.000 President Trump, I don't think, supports this, but he's not going to kill his signature piece of legislation.

01:06:39.000 Exactly.

01:06:41.000 I was just saying people should understand who Tom Tillis is, right? 1.00

01:06:45.000 If you understand his background, because if he's your senator, then you know what a piece of garbage this guy is. 0.99

01:06:51.000 So you know that he's censured by his own party. 0.99

01:06:54.000 You know that he has, you know, worked against President Trump. 0.51

01:06:58.000 You know that he's a rhino.

01:06:59.000 That's all I'm trying to say is that a lot of people may think, oh, well, he's a Republican senator.

01:07:03.000 How bad could this be?

01:07:04.000 Well, it's bad.

01:07:05.000 And if you look at his record, he's not pro-Trump.

01:07:07.000 He doesn't have interests that align with President Trump, which is why people who do support President Trump are speaking out against this legislation.

01:07:17.000 Because if you truly supported President Trump and you believe in his message of combating weaponized justice and weaponization of lawfare, then you would oppose this corrupt legislation, which would deprive everyday Americans, the people who, and we're the everyday people, we're the everyday people who voted for President Trump because we view him as our champion.

01:07:40.000 He's the guy that's standing up against all these corporations and the globalist elites that are trying to screw over hardworking American people.

01:07:49.000 That is why he had such an overwhelming mandate at the polls in November.

01:07:53.000 And this legislation undermines it.

01:07:55.000 And they're trying to tuck it inside of President Trump's big beautiful bill so that they can taint President Trump's otherwise good legislation.

01:08:03.000 That's what I am saying.

01:08:05.000 And you're right.

01:08:05.000 I think that a lot more MAGA Republicans were made aware of this.

01:08:10.000 I don't even think a lot of members of Congress are aware of this legislation that was tucked inside the BBB.

01:08:15.000 But if they are, and you call your representative and you call your senator and you call your member of Congress, we can get it taken out.

01:08:22.000 And that's what people need to do.

01:08:23.000 And you only have about 11 more days to do this because I'm told they're either going to vote between July 1st and July 4th, sometime between that period.

01:08:34.000 You've got it.

01:08:35.000 President Trump is a billionaire and they still try to crush him with litigation.

01:08:39.000 And he knows how expensive lawyers are.

01:08:41.000 So he wants regular people to have access to justice, just like he had the best representation.

01:08:47.000 Everyday Americans deserve great representation too.

01:08:51.000 Absolutely.

01:08:52.000 Anything else you want people to know about Senator Tillis's?

01:08:56.000 It's called for people that are taking notes and you want to know.

01:08:59.000 It's called Tackling Predatory Litigation Funding Act.

01:09:02.000 Very deceptive name because really there's nothing predatory about litigation finance.

01:09:06.000 If anything, it's offering a helping hand to people who otherwise would not be able to afford litigation.

01:09:12.000 It's Senate Bill 1821.

01:09:15.000 Again, call your representatives.

01:09:17.000 Call your representatives this week and tell them how awful this legislation is.

01:09:21.000 Let them know that Senator Tom Tillis deceptively tucked it inside the Big Beautiful bill and how this is harmful, how it allows for weaponization of justice and weaponization of lawfare to proliferate in our society and get it removed.

01:09:34.000 Anything else, Ashley, that you want to leave the viewers with before you go?

01:09:42.000 The thing I'll leave you with is you know that people aren't really fighting for the thing that they're saying when there's no logical connection between their arguments and the actual facts on the ground.

01:09:53.000 And that's the case with Tillis's legislation.

01:09:55.000 As you say, there's nothing predatory about litigation finance.

01:09:58.000 Litigation finance doesn't fuel frivolous lawsuits because the financiers don't get paid if the lawsuits don't succeed.

01:10:05.000 So, what they really mean by frivolous lawsuits are ones that the corporations think that they're going to lose, but they wish they wouldn't.

01:10:12.000 That's not frivolous, that's just them getting caught for their misbehavior.

01:10:16.000 Our civil justice system exists to correct that misbehavior and to get compensation for people when they're harmed by it.

01:10:22.000 So, this legislation, as you say, is pretty deceptive.

01:10:26.000 It's resting on false pre-textual premises.

01:10:30.000 And I'm really hopeful that Republicans, the Republicans in the first camp who again realize that the chamber is not our friends, are going to be awakened to this.

01:10:39.000 I really appreciate you putting a finger on this issue while there's so much else happening in the world.

01:10:44.000 It's really important that the truth come out about it.

01:10:47.000 And now that you're talking about it.

01:10:49.000 A lot of people were like, oh, this is very random.

01:10:51.000 Why are you talking about this?

01:10:52.000 Yeah, it's random, especially if you look at the state of affairs in the world.

01:10:56.000 But you can't just sit there and talk about Iran all day long.

01:10:59.000 That's what people want us to talk about all day long.

01:11:01.000 And yes, we are talking about Iran tonight and we're going to get back to the subject of Iran.

01:11:06.000 But at the end of the day, this is the time.

01:11:08.000 It's in times of conflict and in times of global chaos that our politicians take advantage of the news cycle to deceive people.

01:11:18.000 And this is when you have to be on high alert is when there's chaos, when the media is only focused on one thing, back-to-back coverage, wall-to-wall coverage of, you know, the bombing of the nuclear facilities in Iran, the conflict with Israel, the conflict with Iran, the missile strikes.

01:11:33.000 That's all you're hearing about.

01:11:34.000 And it's all we've been hearing about for the last two weeks straight.

01:11:38.000 And meanwhile, we are about to witness the complete bastardization of our justice system.

01:11:47.000 I mean, people already talk about how a judicial coup is taking place against the executive branch and how unfair all the law fare was against President Trump, who, as you just pointed out, is a billionaire and could afford his own legal defense.

01:12:00.000 Now, imagine if the tables turn and they decided to start targeting his supporters or, and they already have.

01:12:07.000 We don't need to imagine if the tables have turned, but imagine what's going to happen.

01:12:11.000 Let's just say after 3.5 years from now, Donald Trump gets out of office and people start getting targeted again by a corrupt DOJ and by the new administration.

01:12:21.000 How are people supposed to afford their litigation if they can't get access to litigation finance?

01:12:27.000 So it's in your best interest because, hey, no one wants to be sued.

01:12:31.000 No one wants to file lawsuits, but sometimes you have to.

01:12:34.000 Sometimes you have to for the sake of correcting the record and getting justice and accountability.

01:12:38.000 And ask yourself, do you want to find yourself on the losing side before you can even file a lawsuit because you don't have the money?

01:12:47.000 Or do you want to know that there's going to be an option for you to get funding for your litigation if you find yourself in a situation someday where you need to file a lawsuit against a powerful entity with unlimited funding?

01:12:59.000 That's what everybody needs to be keeping in mind.

01:13:02.000 And they need to light the phone lines up tomorrow and call their representatives.

01:13:08.000 Thanks for pointing this out.

01:13:10.000 I'm optimistic in large part because of your bringing this issue to people's attention that we will get this stripped out.

01:13:18.000 Great.

01:13:18.000 Well, thank you so much, Ashley.

01:13:20.000 I really appreciate you coming on.

01:13:22.000 Where can people follow you?

01:13:23.000 I don't know if you're on social media or not.

01:13:25.000 I know that we had you on because obviously you're involved in some very impactful cases that are at the center of a lot of viral news stories right now, especially the case out of Texas.

01:13:38.000 And so I figured you'd be the perfect subject matter expert to come on tonight.

01:13:43.000 But where can people follow you and follow the cases you're involved in?

01:13:47.000 I know you have a website, Keller and Postman.

01:13:50.000 Yeah, I'm a tech Luddite and I'm old, so I don't do the social media tweets, but KellerPostman.com has the latest and greatest information about what we're up to.

01:14:00.000 Wonderful.

01:14:01.000 Great.

01:14:01.000 Well, thank you so much for coming on.

01:14:03.000 And hopefully the news cycle gets back to a more balanced level this week and people are able to talk about other issues other than the airstrikes.

01:14:14.000 But this is, in my opinion, one of the most undertalked about stories right now.

01:14:19.000 And it's going to have devastating consequences for everyday Americans if this is not taken out of the Big Beautiful Bill.

01:14:26.000 So call your representatives.

01:14:27.000 Ashley, again, thank you so much for coming on.

01:14:30.000 I really appreciate it.

01:14:31.000 Thanks for having me.

01:14:32.000 I appreciate it too.

01:14:34.000 Absolutely.

01:14:35.000 Have a good night.

01:14:37.000 You too.

01:14:40.000 All right.

01:14:41.000 There you have it.

01:14:41.000 You heard from a trial lawyer himself about how this is going to negatively impact our justice system.

01:14:47.000 So definitely be sure that you contact your representatives.

01:14:50.000 It's already alarming to me that more people are not talking about this, especially given the conservative movement's focus on going after big tech, going after big banks for deplatforming people, going after woke corporations that discriminate for DEI practices.

01:15:07.000 So this is something that should really be on the radar of more conservatives.

01:15:11.000 And shockingly, it's not.

01:15:13.000 I don't know why it's not.

01:15:14.000 Well, I guess we know why, right?

01:15:15.000 It's all the conflict with Iran and Israel, but still, you should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time and have conversations about multiple subjects without completely screwing over the American people.

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01:18:03.000 We're going to continue talking about Iran, but as you know, in the beginning of the month and I believe June 4th was the date, I was in Washington, D.C. for my deposition.

01:18:16.000 As many of you know, I filed a lawsuit against Bill Maher because he falsely accused me of sleeping with President Trump in the aftermath of the presidential debate in 2024, in September of 2024.

01:18:30.000 And Bill Maher had his deposition in early April in Beverly Hills.

01:18:34.000 And then I had my deposition on June 4th in Washington, D.C. And there's been some really interesting developments in the case where, you know, obviously Bill Maher doesn't want the contents of his deposition out in the public.

01:18:49.000 And so those are now confidential.

01:18:52.000 It's interesting how this guy can go on a show and falsely accuse me of having sex with Donald Trump.

01:19:00.000 But now it's really bizarre.

01:19:02.000 Now they're trying to make it so that my deposition can't even be made public.

01:19:07.000 Why?

01:19:08.000 Because, well, I did so well in my deposition.

01:19:11.000 So joining me now to provide an update on the law fair that I myself am involved in, trying to get justice and accountability against somebody who has wronged me, somebody who has defamed me, right?

01:19:24.000 I've sued Bill Maher and I've also sued HBO.

01:19:28.000 It's important.

01:19:28.000 It's really important that people be able to use the legal system to get justice when they have been wrong, to get justice to correct the record.

01:19:36.000 And that's what I'm trying to do.

01:19:37.000 And I'm trying to protect it for every other American who finds themselves getting completely screwed over by corrupt individuals or big corporations or media personalities or whoever it may be.

01:19:50.000 You don't want to get bullied and you need to be able to use the legal system to fight back when you are wronged.

01:19:57.000 And so joining me now to discuss the updates in my own legal case against Bill Maher and HBO is my attorney, Larry Lehman.

01:20:05.000 Larry, thanks so much for joining me.

01:20:07.000 I really appreciate it.

01:20:11.000 Larry, can you hear me?

01:20:17.000 I think Larry's having some issues right now.

01:20:23.000 I guess we'll go back to our cover Johnny Ron in the meantime while he's connecting.

01:20:30.000 Hey, can you guys let me in?

01:20:31.000 He's having an issue connecting.

01:20:32.000 Let's try to get that resolved, please.

01:20:34.000 Yes.

01:20:38.000 Thank you.

01:20:38.000 Let's see what else.

01:20:43.000 We are live right now, too.

01:20:44.000 So be sure that while we're waiting on Larry to connect, that you go to rumble.com slash Laura Loomer. 0.91

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01:20:59.000 I think we have Larry now.

01:21:00.000 Do we have Larry?

01:21:01.000 I'm here.

01:21:02.000 Okay, great.

01:21:03.000 Larry, thanks so much.

01:21:04.000 A bit of a technical issue there.

01:21:06.000 That must be the new audience.

01:21:08.000 No, it's, I don't think technology is your strong suit.

01:21:12.000 Great lawyer, but it's okay.

01:21:14.000 Who knows?

01:21:14.000 Maybe the Iranians are hacking us.

01:21:16.000 Yeah, who knows?

01:21:17.000 Maybe the Iranians are hacking us. 1.00

01:21:19.000 Larry, it's great to have you on.

01:21:21.000 I don't know if you caught the tail end of my previous segment there talking about the importance of litigation financing and whatnot, but we were talking about how, you know, there's efforts right now to try to kill off litigation financing by taxing it out of existence.

01:21:38.000 And I was just talking about how important it is for people, everyday Americans, people who aren't billionaires, people who aren't millionaires, people who have been taken advantage of by corporations or screwed over, defamed by media networks, have the ability to file a lawsuit if they ever need to file a lawsuit for the sake of getting justice and accountability.

01:21:59.000 And we've seen with this recent election how our justice system has been completely weaponized and how there, you know, there's a lot of corruption.

01:22:08.000 You've written books about this.

01:22:10.000 I know that you're no stranger to this.

01:22:11.000 You've been a lawyer for decades in our country fighting against the corrupt legal system.

01:22:17.000 And I guess I found myself now dealing with, in my opinion, what is a very corrupt situation.

01:22:24.000 And I wanted to bring you on so that you could explain to my viewers what is happening in my own lawsuit against Bill Maher.

01:22:30.000 Because last time I checked, when you're involved in a deposition, your own deposition is allowed to be released to the public.

01:22:38.000 And now we have been contacted by Bill Maher and by HBO this week, informing us that my deposition for some reason that I flew all the way to Washington, D.C. to record under oath is not allowed to be disclosed publicly.

01:22:54.000 Even though when I walked into the deposition in the law firm, Davis Wright and Tremaine, Which is an anti-Trump law firm that has represented CNN and lawsuits against Trump.

01:23:05.000 They represented George Stephanopoulos and the lawsuit that President Trump recently filed against him.

01:23:10.000 Ultimately, Stephanopoulos had to settle with President Trump for $15 million.

01:23:15.000 These are people who openly advertise that they are anti-Trump in order to solicit clients.

01:23:20.000 Now they're telling me that I'm not allowed to release my own deposition.

01:23:24.000 And I figured, what better way to highlight the corruption in our judicial system than to bring my own lawyer on to talk about this ridiculous update in my own lawsuit?

01:23:35.000 Well, you're right, Laura.

01:23:36.000 And it goes all the way back to refresh people's recollection without being off color.

01:23:41.000 You were defamed by Bill Maher because he wanted to get to Donald Trump during the election.

01:23:45.000 He supported Kamala Harris, claimed she was a shoe-in to win, and used you as the vehicle to defame Donald Trump by saying, and I'll clean it up because Bill Maher is a low-class degenerate, frankly.

01:24:00.000 I'll clean it up and say that you slept with the president behind the back of Milani and committed adultery. 0.76

01:24:07.000 Now, they tried to dismiss that case.

01:24:09.000 They failed.

01:24:11.000 And even before that happened, we had sent them an email and a letter saying to mitigate the damage that you've caused to my client, Laura Loomer, that's my law firm claimant law group PA, that you should retract this.

01:24:25.000 You should apologize and put her on the air during an episode of Real Time.

01:24:30.000 And they, of course, refused arrogantly.

01:24:32.000 Now, their arrogance is unbelievable.

01:24:34.000 They can smear you in front of millions of viewers.

01:24:37.000 They can harm you.

01:24:38.000 It's hurt you financially.

01:24:39.000 It's hurts your reputation, your goodwill.

01:24:41.000 It's prevented you from opportunities because people view you as radioactive unfairly, totally unfairly.

01:24:48.000 It's because you're so effective.

01:24:50.000 And now they've moved the court that even your own deposition should be kept from the public.

01:24:57.000 It can only be used in the context of litigation, unless it's attached to a pleading.

01:25:02.000 And believe me, it will be attached to a pleading.

01:25:04.000 But we have a video, and the video should be released.

01:25:07.000 The court should have ordered it.

01:25:09.000 It's going to be up on appeal.

01:25:10.000 A magistrate judge made that ruling.

01:25:13.000 No aspersions towards the magistrate judge.

01:25:15.000 I don't want to anger the judiciary over there.

01:25:18.000 But he will be, I believe, reversed by the judge in chief.

01:25:24.000 And we're going to be pursuing that.

01:25:26.000 But more importantly than that, you're right.

01:25:28.000 How can they prevent you from releasing your own deposition?

01:25:31.000 And what does that deposition?

01:25:32.000 It's funny because, you know, when we walked into the deposition, and I guess stop me, right?

01:25:38.000 If I'm not allowed to disclose the contents of my deposition.

01:25:42.000 But we walk into the deposition and there's this whole, you know, discussion about what part is going to be, you know, public and what part isn't going to be public.

01:25:52.000 And of course, you know, anything that contains your personal information has to be private.

01:25:58.000 And personal information, of course, is, you know, your address or your bank information, things like that.

01:26:04.000 And so the lawyer, her name is Kate Bollinger, who works for Davis, Wright and Tremaine, this very liberal law firm, was so adamant about how all of this was going to be public and everybody was going to see it and it was going to be on the record and the tapes were going to be available to be posted.

01:26:22.000 And now all of a sudden, they don't want it to be released.

01:26:26.000 And the only reason why they wouldn't want my own deposition to be released is because, well, I outperformed them in my own deposition.

01:26:34.000 And they thought that they were going to try to make a fool of me. 0.99

01:26:38.000 But at the end, they're the ones that looked like fools because they falsely accused me of having sex with Donald Trump. 0.99

01:26:44.000 They have no evidence whatsoever. 0.99

01:26:45.000 And now I'm having to waste my own money trying to get justice.

01:26:51.000 And some people will say, well, that's your fault.

01:26:53.000 You know, you're the one that filed the lawsuit.

01:26:54.000 Well, again, it goes to my point.

01:26:56.000 At what point are people not allowed to get justice or accountability from the character elites?

01:27:01.000 At what point can people not stand up and try to fundraise for, you know, the costs associated with their litigation?

01:27:09.000 Are people supposed to be financially ruined in this country because of lies that are spread about them?

01:27:13.000 I'm a young woman, right?

01:27:15.000 Why should I be falsely accused of having an affair with somebody just because they don't like me?

01:27:21.000 They don't like my investigative journalism.

01:27:23.000 They don't like the fact that I'm on good terms with the president.

01:27:26.000 And they don't like the fact that the president absolutely obliterated Kamala Harris during the presidential campaign. 0.99

01:27:31.000 And so, you know, what has happened to me could happen to any of you as you're watching tonight.

01:27:37.000 And it's just an abomination because really litigation in this country is so expensive.

01:27:42.000 And most people can't afford it.

01:27:44.000 Most people can't afford to get justice when they find themselves getting screwed over.

01:27:48.000 But even if you try to get the funds needed for your litigation, you encounter all types of judicial corruption or all types of sleazy tactics to really deprive individuals, myself included, of getting justice.

01:28:05.000 And you've been my lawyer for many years now, Larry.

01:28:07.000 So you know that this isn't the first time that I've gone up against somebody who is extremely powerful and extremely wealthy.

01:28:17.000 But it's becoming increasingly harder in this country for people to get justice.

01:28:22.000 And at some point in time, I think people are just going to lose all faith whatsoever in the DOJ and lose all faith whatsoever in our justice system, especially as they watch the judicial coup happening in our own country.

01:28:36.000 Well, you're right.

01:28:37.000 And see, they don't want your deposition to come out because Kate Bolger, that's her name, of Davis Wright-Tremaine, yes, they advertise until we call them on it that they're anti-Trump.

01:28:48.000 I had an article written in the Hollywood Reporter about that.

01:28:50.000 I've been up against them many times.

01:28:53.000 They're leftists.

01:28:54.000 When I went into the Davis Wright in New York, I couldn't even figure out what bathroom to go to.

01:28:59.000 I mean, you couldn't.

01:29:00.000 They had three sexes. 0.73

01:29:01.000 I couldn't figure out which one was which.

01:29:03.000 I mean, these are the people you're dealing with here.

01:29:05.000 But they browbeat you at the deposition, them and two other women.

01:29:09.000 And they didn't want that to be put out in a video because it would show, frankly, just, you know, how improper and unethical they have behaved.

01:29:19.000 Same thing with Maher when we deposed him.

01:29:22.000 They were comatose that that might be released because it shows the real Bill Maher acting like he's the Joker in Bacman.

01:29:29.000 And believe me, He's not funny.

01:29:30.000 He's not a comedian.

01:29:31.000 He's a pundit.

01:29:32.000 I never found him funny.

01:29:34.000 I was on his show years ago before it became so vile as it is today.

01:29:38.000 And it's okay to smear and to harm Lara Loomer, but it's not okay to have a video deposition of Bill Maher or even yourself released to the public.

01:29:49.000 So we'll be challenging this, if necessary, all the way up to the Supreme Court.

01:29:53.000 They need to see this.

01:29:54.000 They need to see what you're dealing with.

01:29:56.000 And it's important.

01:29:57.000 You're right.

01:29:58.000 You, Laura, are sitting on our department of, along with other prominent people, including Nancy Mace and others, and Alan Keyes, former ambassador, our department of judicial and legal accountability.

01:30:10.000 We need to revise this legal system.

01:30:12.000 People have lost total confidence in it.

01:30:15.000 And it's not just President Trump, but it's everyone.

01:30:18.000 Well, it's just totally backwards.

01:30:21.000 Even today, we saw just the absolute insanity of our broken justice system where you have President Trump who filed, you know, he issued a deportation order for Mahmoud Khalil, right?

01:30:33.000 The State Department issued a deportation order for Mahmoud Khalil, who is one of the Muslim individuals in our country who was involved in organizing these violent pro-Hamas protests at Columbia University.

01:30:49.000 And they had him in an ICE detention facility in Louisiana.

01:30:53.000 And then a judge tried saying that, you know, the Trump administration couldn't deport him.

01:30:57.000 So this deportation was halted, even though he's a Syrian national.

01:31:01.000 And then he's held in ICE detention.

01:31:04.000 And now he was released today.

01:31:06.000 Just imagine this, right?

01:31:07.000 He is a pro-Hamas Muslim on a visa in our country. 0.93

01:31:11.000 He's not even a U.S. citizen. 0.78

01:31:13.000 He was supposed to be deported.

01:31:14.000 And now he's been released back into the public where who knows?

01:31:18.000 He could be radicalized.

01:31:20.000 He could be recruited as an Iranian proxy to carry out an act of terrorism.

01:31:26.000 He may feel a sense of revenge.

01:31:29.000 He may want to try to get revenge by carrying out an attack in our country.

01:31:32.000 You don't know.

01:31:32.000 It just is very dangerous to release an individual like Mahmoud Khalil back into the streets of America, back into society.

01:31:40.000 And what is he doing?

01:31:40.000 What is the first thing that this guy is doing upon being released back into society after being released from this detention facility?

01:31:47.000 He's back at Colombia chanting globalize the Intifada, promoting terrorist propaganda.

01:31:52.000 And so, again, how are people supposed to feel a sense of security or have confidence in our justice system when they're watching all of these radical judges get away with carrying out a judicial coup?

01:32:06.000 I mean, if President Trump can't get justice, how can somebody like myself get justice?

01:32:10.000 How can everyday Americans get justice?

01:32:12.000 And I know that you've represented all types of clients.

01:32:16.000 I was just talking to my previous guest, Ashley Keller, a trial lawyer, about how litigation financing is used to help people get justice, especially for this is something you have experience with, suing terrorist organizations, Americans who have been either killed by terrorist organizations or had family members who were killed by terrorist organizations, right?

01:32:38.000 Suing governments that enabled or funded these terrorist organizations or suing these terror organizations like Hamas and the PLO or the IRGC themselves.

01:32:48.000 And this is something that you've done.

01:32:49.000 Perhaps you can speak to that.

01:32:51.000 But it just seems like no matter how egregious the crime is, no matter how egregious a case is, it seems like the criminals and the guilty party are, the guilty parties rather, are being favored in our justice system.

01:33:07.000 You're right.

01:33:08.000 And it's the federal judges.

01:33:09.000 They are appointed.

01:33:10.000 They're politicians in robes.

01:33:12.000 They're very politicized.

01:33:13.000 They get on the bench generally with large campaign contributions.

01:33:16.000 You can guess with almost exact certainty how they're going to rule based on who appointed them. 0.97

01:33:21.000 They're like clowns in the Stephen King movie, frankly. 0.98

01:33:24.000 I mean, they are very, very dangerous. 0.90

01:33:26.000 And it was Thomas Jefferson who said he was against federal judges.

01:33:29.000 Unelected, unaccountable to the people, they would become despots and tyrants, causing us to shed the blood of patriots and tyrants yet again every 20 years or so.

01:33:39.000 He didn't want to see violence, neither do I. But it's gotten to the point where it's key.

01:33:44.000 Look, there was a judge the other day in San Francisco.

01:33:46.000 They knew where to file cases, the left, that enjoined Trump from sending the National Guard to Los Angeles.

01:33:52.000 Even the Ninth Circuit had to reverse that leftist judge. 0.98

01:33:56.000 This is what you're dealing with.

01:33:58.000 And fortunately, we have our case in Ocala, Florida.

01:34:01.000 It's a very favorable venue.

01:34:03.000 The judge in that case, not the magistrate judge, you just basically put a seal on everything, but the actual judge himself that sits atop him, allows the case to go forward.

01:34:13.000 It will go to trial.

01:34:14.000 It's an easy case.

01:34:15.000 It's not confidential.

01:34:17.000 There's no reason that anything should be kept off the public record.

01:34:20.000 And yet you can have your reputation destroyed and harmed among certain quarters.

01:34:25.000 Of course, our supporters know otherwise.

01:34:28.000 But yet Bill Maher's deposition can't be made public and your own cannot be made public.

01:34:33.000 And this is why you need to be supported.

01:34:36.000 And if you're interested in this case, you can go to larryclayman.com.

01:34:39.000 I'm handling this in my private capacity.

01:34:41.000 Freedom Watch, obviously, has been fighting against this for years.

01:34:45.000 I founded Judicial Watch because of this in 1994, watching judges.

01:34:49.000 That's what it's about.

01:34:51.000 So this is important.

01:34:52.000 Your case will go to trial, Laura.

01:34:54.000 It's going to go to trial in a very religious area of this country.

01:34:59.000 I don't think they're going to be real happy with Bill Maher.

01:35:02.000 And if anybody wants to see who Bill Maher is, go out on X and look at his tweets. 0.83

01:35:07.000 Look at how disgusting they are. 0.99

01:35:09.000 Look at how he hates women. 1.00

01:35:10.000 He's a misogynist. 1.00

01:35:12.000 He hates Trump. 0.99

01:35:13.000 He's never been married for good reason.

01:35:15.000 I mean, who would marry the guy?

01:35:16.000 I mean, if you're a woman, I guess there's an opportunity to go the other way. 0.68

01:35:21.000 But this guy is really bad news.

01:35:24.000 And, you know, he picked on you, not so much because it was you, because he wanted to get to Trump.

01:35:33.000 Well, he, you know, is not a great guy.

01:35:38.000 He seems to think that he's above the law.

01:35:40.000 And that's what's really interesting is that for a Democrat Party that loves to screech, nobody's above the law, they scream this at President Trump and his supporters in the aftermath of J6.

01:35:49.000 And they screamed this all throughout the presidential campaign when they were indicting President Trump over and over again.

01:35:55.000 They don't seem to have any regard for the law.

01:35:58.000 And so how unprecedented is it for somebody to have their own deposition sealed and for somebody to be denied the ability to release their own deposition?

01:36:12.000 Because I had never heard of this happening before until you just updated me.

01:36:17.000 remember?

01:36:19.000 I've never heard of this.

01:36:20.000 I'm honestly so shocked.

01:36:21.000 I can't believe that I'm not able to release my own deposition because I was going to release my own deposition to the public so people could see firsthand how I answered all the questions.

01:36:31.000 It's likely to happen.

01:36:32.000 We just have to go up to the higher judge here.

01:36:34.000 But do you remember when I was fighting the Clintons?

01:36:37.000 Years ago, you're a lot younger than I am.

01:36:39.000 You may not have a complete memory of it, but I would take depositions of everyone, Stephanopoulos, Carville, Mac McClarty, White House Chief of Staff, you name it.

01:36:49.000 And they would be released the same day, and you'd see vignettes of them, little clips of them on cable news every night.

01:36:56.000 They're American proceedings.

01:36:58.000 We're not like King George III, who did things in star chambers, secret with his corrupt judges.

01:37:05.000 We have a system in our country where people will be able to see what goes on in our justice system, open justice.

01:37:12.000 It's not supposed to be secret behind closed doors.

01:37:16.000 And that's particularly true with regard to your own deposition.

01:37:19.000 You have the right to release it.

01:37:20.000 Now, we're not going to do it right now.

01:37:23.000 It'll be attached in transcript form to a motion that I'm going to file in the next few days to hold Kate Bolger and her colleagues accountable for harassing you and browbeating you and making objections during depositions to give, to tip off witnesses to answers.

01:37:38.000 I've deposed HBO, the corporate representative.

01:37:42.000 I've deposed Marr.

01:37:43.000 This is what she does.

01:37:45.000 This is a firm that I've fought against for many years.

01:37:47.000 They're unethical.

01:37:48.000 They don't know how to tell the truth. 1.00

01:37:50.000 They're liars. 0.99

01:37:51.000 And they, frankly, could care less. 0.99

01:37:53.000 And can you imagine three women sitting there allowing Kate Bulger to browbeat you, women, after you have been defamed as a woman and dragged through the mud? 0.73

01:38:05.000 I mean, what can be more despicable than that?

01:38:09.000 I've always been in my career.

01:38:10.000 You're right, I've been practicing for decades.

01:38:13.000 I don't accept any client to represent.

01:38:16.000 And I would not have accepted this case if I really believed in the rights of women and not to defend a misogynist and a sexist.

01:38:25.000 And that's what he is.

01:38:26.000 Go look at his tweets.

01:38:27.000 Look at his views on women.

01:38:29.000 And you were the victim. 0.99

01:38:32.000 Yeah, it's disgusting.

01:38:34.000 Well, any comments, any thoughts about this ruling to release Mahmoud Khalil?

01:38:39.000 I know that you yourself have been involved in litigation trying to get justice for victims of Hamas and victims of other Islamic terrorist organizations.

01:38:48.000 What are your thoughts on these judges ruling Mahmoud Khalil, who has been involved, he's not even a United States citizen, been involved in these protests that are favorable to Hamas, releasing this dangerous individual back onto the streets of America? 0.52

01:39:05.000 Also, too, they announced today that they're releasing Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who's an illegal alien, back into the streets of America.

01:39:13.000 So, you know, up is down, down is up.

01:39:16.000 It's unbelievable what is happening in our country.

01:39:19.000 And I just wanted to get your thoughts on this as somebody.

01:39:22.000 You know, just a little background.

01:39:24.000 I've sued the supreme leader before for Akbar Mohamedi, the first student leader to call for regime change who was mutilated.

01:39:31.000 His body, you know, went through the streets of Tehran celebrating that.

01:39:36.000 His brother, manager, whose genitals were mutilated.

01:39:40.000 I still have a case pending for the victims, the families of extortion 17 against Iran.

01:39:46.000 I have a default against them.

01:39:48.000 These people are dangerous people.

01:39:50.000 Most Iranians in this country are good people.

01:39:53.000 They're industrious.

01:39:54.000 They basically built Beverly Hills, for instance.

01:39:58.000 And I have a couple of them who are my doctors, Iranian Jews.

01:40:01.000 But the Iranians and the type of Khalil, these are radical people. 0.99

01:40:08.000 These are people who present a clear and present danger to the United States.

01:40:13.000 And any judge that would let that person out on the streets, frankly, should be removed as a judge.

01:40:20.000 He's not engaging in good behavior.

01:40:23.000 By the way, there's no constitutional right to life tenure in the Constitution for federal judges.

01:40:28.000 It's serving for good behavior.

01:40:30.000 It doesn't exist.

01:40:31.000 Yet we have a judiciary committee run by Jim Jordan, who hasn't called one judge up in eight years, actually longer than that, nine years.

01:40:40.000 He's not a lawyer.

01:40:41.000 He could still call them up, call them in the carpet, have them start impeachment proceedings and get that underway.

01:40:47.000 He'd rather go in Fox News than fundraise.

01:40:50.000 This is what you're dealing with.

01:40:51.000 And this is why you are sitting on a committee with regard to Freedom Watch that will take action against these judges with citizens' grand juries, citizens' trials, holding them accountable.

01:41:02.000 And we need to do something because without a legal system that functions, then this case is going, the country is going to go into a very violent state.

01:41:10.000 And we don't want to see that.

01:41:12.000 As somebody who has sued the Iranian regime and sued the supreme leader and somebody who has sued Hamas and has tried to get justice for the families of victims of these terrorist organizations, what are your thoughts about President Trump's strike on Iran's nuclear facilities?

01:41:32.000 I think he did the right thing.

01:41:33.000 I think it was fantastic that he did that.

01:41:37.000 You know, I was pushing him to do it.

01:41:39.000 Mark Levin was pushing him to do it.

01:41:41.000 We had these rhinos and Tucker Carlson wing of the Republican Party that were trying to scare him. 0.95

01:41:49.000 Charlie Kirk all of a sudden has become a fan of doing it just three days ago.

01:41:53.000 He wasn't.

01:41:53.000 Okay, this is what we were dealing with.

01:41:55.000 But president did the right thing.

01:41:57.000 Now he needs to take care of the regime.

01:41:59.000 And I think he's got that in their sights. 0.96

01:42:01.000 They need to be eliminated, for lack of a better word. 0.99

01:42:04.000 You know, it's like a cockroach. 0.95

01:42:06.000 If you leave one cockroach in your home, the colony is going to grow back.

01:42:10.000 Now is the time to get rid of the leadership, not the Iranian people, but the leadership. 1.00

01:42:15.000 You know, the Iranian people are great people.

01:42:18.000 The Iranian people love Trump.

01:42:20.000 They love Western civilization.

01:42:23.000 They're oppressed.

01:42:24.000 These people have been fighting for freedom for a very long time.

01:42:27.000 And it seems like that's Why they have to shut off the internet, right?

01:42:31.000 That's why they have to shut off the internet. 0.91

01:42:32.000 And people are begging Elon Musk to turn on Starlink and Iran because they don't want the Iranian people seeing how weak the regime is.

01:42:40.000 They don't want the Iranian people seeing what President Trump just did to the nuclear facilities because now is probably the best time, if there was ever a time, to have freedom, to secure freedom.

01:42:54.000 If you are the Iranian people, now would be the most ideal time to rise up and overthrow the Iranian regime. 0.61

01:43:01.000 Well, I think we ought to help them with that.

01:43:03.000 During Obama, we had an opportunity in 2009.

01:43:07.000 He didn't.

01:43:08.000 The Voice of America was a propaganda network for Iran.

01:43:11.000 They actually had the son of a supreme, of a Ayatollah running it.

01:43:16.000 I think the United States should not sit back and just wait for the Iranians to do it. 1.00

01:43:20.000 I think we need to help them.

01:43:21.000 And I think President Trump will do that.

01:43:23.000 And that's his intention.

01:43:24.000 If you don't do it now, you know, it's kind of like John McEnroe when he played tennis.

01:43:29.000 You get somebody down five sets to zero, you finish them off because they will rise again if you let them get up.

01:43:36.000 Already we know that they took the enriched uranium at 60% and took it out of Fordo and took it out of Istafant and took it out of the tance.

01:43:47.000 They took it out.

01:43:48.000 They still are a threat. 0.99

01:43:50.000 You need to eliminate the leadership. 0.95

01:43:52.000 And frankly, I hope no one gets hurt, but I actually hope that the Iranians do provoke President Trump and give him the green light to take them all out. 1.00

01:44:01.000 Because that is the intention, I believe, of President Trump.

01:44:04.000 And it certainly is the intention of Prime Minister Netanyahu.

01:44:10.000 Well, we have a post from President Trump that he posted earlier today.

01:44:13.000 It said, MIGA, make Iran Great Again. 0.97

01:44:15.000 And he talked about how, well, if the Iranian people are not going to come to the table for peace and the Iranian people are not, or the Iranian supreme leader, excuse me, if the Iranian people want peace and the Iranian supreme leader is not going to come to the table to change his ways, then let's pull this up on the screen.

01:44:38.000 It says it is not politically correct to use the term regime change.

01:44:42.000 But if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, and of course, President Trump is talking about not just the demilitarization and the denuclearization, but also to actual change in Iran where they stop oppressing the people, they stop chanting death to America.

01:44:59.000 They stop threatening to nuke the West.

01:45:01.000 They stop threatening to nuke Israel.

01:45:02.000 Then he said, why wouldn't there be a regime change, make Iran great again? 1.00

01:45:06.000 He's not saying the United States is going to get involved, but he's saying why wouldn't there be?

01:45:10.000 If the current Iranian regime is not going to make Iran great again, you used to see in the 1970s women in Iran dancing in the streets, wearing bikinis, beautiful women, beautiful, gorgeous women, some of the most beautiful women you'll ever see in your life, free, happy in a bustling society.

01:45:26.000 And now they're all covered in burqas and hijabs and beaten to death in the streets if they take their hijabs off. 1.00

01:45:33.000 So again, that's what President Trump is talking about.

01:45:36.000 If they are not willing to make Iran great again and go back to the time where Iran was a bustling society and people were free, people were happy, people had rights, then ultimately the people are going to have to implement regime change.

01:45:49.000 And so I don't really understand all these conservatives who are attacking President Trump as being a neocon.

01:45:56.000 Do they want the Iranian people to continue to live in oppression for eternity? 1.00

01:46:02.000 I'm not saying that the United States is going to be responsible for this regime change, but why are people so opposed to the Iranian people taking advantage of this opportune time to rise up and take their country back?

01:46:16.000 No, you're right, Laura.

01:46:17.000 Iran has the capability.

01:46:19.000 They have the ability now.

01:46:21.000 They do.

01:46:22.000 Being one of our best allies and one of Israel's best allies.

01:46:26.000 And if you make that regime change, that's going to bring Saudi Arabia to a final peace agreement with Israel.

01:46:32.000 The Gulf states will follow.

01:46:34.000 They view Iran as a huge threat. 0.98

01:46:37.000 The Sunnis hate the Shiites. 1.00

01:46:39.000 The Shiites hate them. 1.00

01:46:40.000 The Saudis and the Gulf countries are Sunnis. 1.00

01:46:43.000 So consequently, it makes sense to take them out.

01:46:46.000 But I don't think we should just sit back and wait for the Iranian people. 1.00

01:46:49.000 We should help them.

01:46:51.000 We should, frankly, arm them. 0.87

01:46:53.000 And you cannot equate the Iranian people to the Iraqis, who were very unsophisticated, you know, uneducated, etc. 0.95

01:47:00.000 The Iranian people are very sophisticated.

01:47:03.000 If you get rid of the Ayatollah and his henchmen, they will certainly fill the vacuum. 1.00

01:47:08.000 It won't be another Iraq. 1.00

01:47:12.000 Any last thoughts?

01:47:14.000 Any last comments, Larry?

01:47:15.000 I know that, well, in terms of, I want to be careful about what I say about my own case.

01:47:23.000 Obviously, things are pending right now, but we're going to be providing updates as things progress, as we get more updates from the judge, as it relates to my case against Bill Maher.

01:47:34.000 But as it stands, it's looking like I'm going to go to trial.

01:47:36.000 It's looking like this is going to go all the way to trial.

01:47:39.000 It will go to trial, Laura, and it's going to trial in Ocala, Florida, where you had your campaign office.

01:47:45.000 It's going to Florida in the Bible Belt. 0.99

01:47:48.000 And it's somebody, it's an area that actually respects Judeo-Christian ethics and values.

01:47:55.000 And I'm going to put up on our website at larryclayman.com in the morning a pleading that I wrote.

01:48:01.000 It's public, and it says what's been going on here.

01:48:04.000 People should read it.

01:48:05.000 And you can see how Laura is being treated, you know, terribly.

01:48:10.000 Yeah, we'll put Larry back on too.

01:48:12.000 We're going to bring you back on the show to talk about it as the case proceeds.

01:48:16.000 But it's just another example.

01:48:18.000 Every single day, there's so many stories, and God only knows how many people are being subjected to the same type of treatment by our justice system.

01:48:24.000 And the reality is, is it's too many cases in one day to cover them all.

01:48:30.000 And it's just a very sad state of affairs that this is the state of our justice system in this country.

01:48:36.000 But hopefully there's able to be some type of judicial reformation in our country over these next 3.5 years.

01:48:44.000 Because if we're not able to get the judicial coup, we're not able to get the attack on our justice system, an attack on accountability.

01:48:54.000 Really, that's what it is.

01:48:55.000 It's an attack on accountability.

01:48:57.000 They're trying to, the elites of our country are trying To deprive everyday people of being able to get any sense of accountability.

01:49:05.000 If we don't fix it over these next 3.5 years, then that's it, because we're in the strongest position now than ever before to address accountability issues and to address the lack of justice.

01:49:16.000 And I'm not just talking about myself or President Trump.

01:49:19.000 Who's gone to jail?

01:49:20.000 We haven't seen any of the people involved in Crossfire Hurricane.

01:49:23.000 We haven't seen any of the people involved in the attacks on President Trump, the people who were at the center of trying to steal the 2020 election.

01:49:30.000 The FBI just released a report the other day.

01:49:33.000 I don't know if you saw this big story, that they believe that there was CCP involvement, printing of ballots, illegal ballots to help steal the election in 2020.

01:49:44.000 So where's the accountability?

01:49:45.000 Who is going to go to jail, right?

01:49:48.000 Where is the accountability?

01:49:49.000 How come the Butler report hasn't been released yet?

01:49:52.000 There's so many things as it relates to our justice system.

01:49:55.000 And it's so funny, it's called the Department of Justice.

01:49:57.000 It should be called the Department of Injustice.

01:50:00.000 There's so many examples.

01:50:01.000 On a day-to-day basis, it's like a fire hose.

01:50:04.000 You know, it's so hard to keep track of everything.

01:50:06.000 It's very overwhelming.

01:50:08.000 Every day I try to keep track of, I try to keep track of all the updates in President Trump's cases and all these federal judges that are trying to have a coup, a judicial coup in this, the executive branch.

01:50:20.000 And it's so overwhelming.

01:50:22.000 And that's just pertaining to these federal cases involving the president.

01:50:26.000 Think of all the other people that are being screwed over in our justice system.

01:50:29.000 It's something that we focus on a lot here at Loomer Unleashed.

01:50:34.000 And I just find it to be very overwhelming.

01:50:38.000 Well, it is.

01:50:39.000 And the American people, you know, years ago when I was at Judicial Watch, which I found that I had a show in New York City and I talked about judges and how they behave and how they harm people if they're not careful.

01:50:50.000 We have a plan to get better judges, but the people actually rose up off their chairs.

01:50:55.000 It was like a Jerry Springer daytime show.

01:50:58.000 Everybody's experienced it in the family court system and with conservatorships and everything else.

01:51:05.000 They see the injustice and they see how money talks and nobody walks.

01:51:10.000 These federal judges, there's some good ones, but by and large, they're bought and paid for by the special interests.

01:51:15.000 Lobbyists put their names forward.

01:51:17.000 President Trump criticized the federal society a few weeks ago for the judges that they asked him to appoint.

01:51:22.000 He relied upon them.

01:51:23.000 And now these judges are ruling against him.

01:51:26.000 It's a club.

01:51:28.000 They protect each other.

01:51:29.000 And President Trump has now had and the administration about 250-plus lawsuits filed against them in leftist areas of this country, whether it's Boston, whether it's Seattle, whether it's Portland, whether it's Chicago.

01:51:44.000 About 60 to 70% have wound up with preliminary injunctions.

01:51:48.000 They're trying to run out the clock because he only has now another three and a half years left.

01:51:54.000 And this is their strategy.

01:51:56.000 And you're supposed to, when you file a case in federal court, it's supposed to be assigned randomly.

01:52:01.000 I don't believe that that happens in most instances.

01:52:03.000 This clown, Bozberg, James Boesberg in D.C. has gotten the last three or four cases involving Trump.

01:52:09.000 He's the Chief Justice. 0.92

01:52:10.000 It's so unprecedented.

01:52:11.000 It's so unprecedented for one judge to be assigned four cases involving the same individual.

01:52:17.000 I mean, talk, if you can just speak on that briefly before you go, because I don't think people understand how unprecedented that is.

01:52:24.000 There's more probability that there's life on Mars than that would happen.

01:52:30.000 Okay.

01:52:30.000 It's mathematically impossible.

01:52:34.000 So it's also corrupt what goes on in the clerk's office.

01:52:36.000 Also at the same time.

01:52:37.000 It's not like four cases over the span of four years or so.

01:52:40.000 It's all at the same time.

01:52:42.000 Exactly.

01:52:43.000 Back to back.

01:52:44.000 Back to back.

01:52:45.000 So this is what you're, you know, we've impeached basically one judge in the last many years, Allisey Hastings from Miami, you know, from Florida, Laura.

01:52:55.000 The guy, when he was impeached, then ran for Congress, claimed it was a racial witch hunt against him, was elected and was in Congress ever since.

01:53:04.000 He died, you know, the last few years.

01:53:06.000 But this is the nature.

01:53:08.000 Eight judges have been impeached in 250 years in this country, roughly speaking.

01:53:15.000 And it's unbelievable.

01:53:18.000 And they were impeached just for drunkenness and not showing up for work, basically.

01:53:22.000 Are we to believe that judges are any more honest than any other man or woman?

01:53:27.000 That's what Jefferson said.

01:53:29.000 Are we to believe that they don't take bribes?

01:53:31.000 Are we to believe that everything's done up and up?

01:53:34.000 No.

01:53:35.000 But even apart from that, the political affiliation of a judge will tell you almost with exact certainty.

01:53:41.000 You can see the rulings at the Supreme Court, how they're going to rule.

01:53:44.000 Forget about the law, forget about the Constitution.

01:53:47.000 They'll rule the way they want.

01:53:49.000 And then if you call them on it, if they do something unethical, the complaint goes to judges in the same courthouse and they throw it in the trash.

01:53:57.000 I'm talking about federal judges.

01:53:59.000 Now, in Florida, you know, we elect judges.

01:54:01.000 And by and large, the judges are fairly decent because they're accountable to the people in the state system.

01:54:07.000 But in the federal system, they're unaccountable to the people.

01:54:11.000 And they have, like Jefferson predicted, become despots and tyrants.

01:54:15.000 He was against federal judges.

01:54:18.000 Absolutely.

01:54:19.000 Well, Larry, we're going to have you back on the program to talk about this because it's not like this judicial coup is going to be stopping anytime soon.

01:54:27.000 But in the meantime, where can people follow you?

01:54:31.000 They can go to two places, LarryClayman.com to read about Laura's case.

01:54:36.000 And there are aspects of what we do at Freedom Watch, which also touch on Laura.

01:54:39.000 We went all the way to the Supreme Court, for instance, with regard to social media.

01:54:43.000 They go to freedomwatchusa.org, and we would appreciate the support.

01:54:48.000 We need more lawyers. 0.90

01:54:48.000 We need more paralegals. 0.90

01:54:50.000 We need to be able to help more people that don't have the opportunity to afford lawyers themselves.

01:54:58.000 Absolutely, Larry.

01:54:59.000 Well, thanks so much for coming on.

01:55:01.000 Thanks for everything you're doing in my lawsuits.

01:55:04.000 I appreciate it.

01:55:05.000 And we'll bring you back soon.

01:55:07.000 Thanks so much for coming on.

01:55:09.000 You're a great friend and a great client.

01:55:11.000 And your worth, Laura, is you don't even have to say what it is anymore.

01:55:16.000 When the President of the United States basically has an opportunity to have you in his office at will, you know how important Laura Loomer is.

01:55:24.000 You can forget about the Bill Mahers and everybody else.

01:55:26.000 What they tell you is complete nonsense.

01:55:29.000 Well, I appreciate that.

01:55:30.000 It's very nice of you to say I do what I can.

01:55:32.000 I try to support President Trump and I try to do what's best for my country and America first.

01:55:36.000 And, you know, there's so many people that are trying to stop President Trump and work against his agenda.

01:55:42.000 But at the end of the day, truth always prevails and we just have to keep on fighting.

01:55:47.000 You just can't ever give up.

01:55:48.000 You have to fight, fight, fight, as President Trump says, and never, ever give up.

01:55:53.000 Well, let's pray for President Trump and Vice President Vance and people in the cabinet because, you know, what happened at Butler, God forbid, but it's probably not going to be the last time.

01:56:03.000 And we need to protect him.

01:56:04.000 And, you know, the Iranians have tried to assassinate President Trump multiple times now. 0.98

01:56:09.000 I predict that's one of the reasons why they haven't released all these reports is because it pertains to issues of national security.

01:56:16.000 But President Trump had two assassination attempts, and he said in multiple interviews and multiple posts that he has reason to believe that Iran was behind those.

01:56:25.000 And I know for a fact, speaking to members of the Trump campaign, that several of them, including his campaign manager, had to have armed security outside of his home towards the last few weeks of the campaign because the Iranians were also trying to assassinate some of President Trump's campaign staff. 0.50

01:56:40.000 So this is a real threat.

01:56:42.000 And we have to defend our country. 0.55

01:56:45.000 We have to deport these illegals. 1.00

01:56:47.000 We have to deport the jihadis.

01:56:48.000 And we need to really fight back against these judges and expose these judges who are trying to prevent President Trump from completing his mission and doing what we, the American people, voted for him to do.

01:57:02.000 Yeah, and you can read about our Department of Judicial and Legal Accountability at freedomwatchusa.org.

01:57:07.000 It's kind of like a compliment to Doge.

01:57:09.000 Something needs to be done.

01:57:11.000 And we need to help the Justice Department.

01:57:13.000 They're overwhelmed, the Trump Justice Department.

01:57:15.000 They need help from we, the people.

01:57:17.000 But one other thing, last thought, Laura.

01:57:21.000 President Trump was very, very shrewd in the way he used legitimate situation ethics and deception against Iran with regard to the attack yesterday.

01:57:31.000 Make no mistake about it.

01:57:33.000 He wants to eliminate the entire leadership, and so does Nathan Yahoo.

01:57:37.000 And that's something that needs to be done.

01:57:40.000 Well, thanks so much for coming on, Larry.

01:57:42.000 I really appreciate it.

01:57:45.000 You're welcome.

01:57:46.000 Okay.

01:57:46.000 See you soon.

01:57:48.000 Stay safe.

01:57:49.000 You too.

01:57:53.000 Larry claiming, you guys.

01:57:54.000 So, look, it's a really serious situation.

01:58:00.000 I'm honestly shocked.

01:58:01.000 It's so hard to keep up to date with all of the examples of judicial corruption in our country.

01:58:09.000 And it's very personal to me, too, because not only did we all witness it during this last presidential election season, but I found myself at the center of it, the center of judicial corruption and the center of these abnormalities in our legal system that work against everyday people from getting justice and accountability.

01:58:31.000 Let's see.

01:58:32.000 Anybody have any comments or questions posted in the chat?

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01:58:55.000 Let's see.

01:58:57.000 He seems like a top-notch lawyer.

01:58:59.000 He has a good personnel presence and will do well in front of a jury.

01:59:02.000 Yep.

01:59:03.000 There's a good lawyer.

01:59:07.000 Jojolina 2022.

01:59:09.000 Thank you for staying strong and for all that you do praying for you and justice and accountability.

01:59:13.000 Thank you.

01:59:13.000 It's very nice of you.

01:59:14.000 I appreciate the super chat.

01:59:17.000 Oh, here comes the wake gnats in the chat.

01:59:20.000 God.

01:59:22.000 Let's see.

01:59:27.000 W producer being removed by the moderator.

01:59:35.000 Yeah, feel free to put your comments and your questions in the chat.

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01:59:39.000 So if you have any comments about any of the interviews or any of the guests, we will come back to the chat.

01:59:47.000 I want to get back to the coverage on Iran.

01:59:50.000 You may have seen some of these videos.

01:59:52.000 You may have not.

01:59:54.000 But there's been a lot of updates.

01:59:56.000 You saw the comments made by President Trump, the brief remarks that he made last night.

02:00:02.000 We played those for you in the beginning.

02:00:03.000 We saw JD Vance on NBC this morning talking about how you don't want to view this as war with Iran, but rather attacking their nuclear facilities.

02:00:13.000 They're at war with their nuclear program, not at war with Iran.

02:00:16.000 And so I gave several examples of military actions that President Trump had taken during his first term, his first administration, in other countries, the form of bombs or drone strikes that did not result in prolonged wars in the Middle East.

02:00:34.000 See, Draxion said, Larry Clayman is a great choice.

02:00:37.000 He got one of the J6ers out early, which was a difficult task. 1.00

02:00:43.000 Yeah, he does a lot of great work.

02:00:46.000 Let's see.

02:00:47.000 There's so many clips.

02:00:48.000 There's so many clips.

02:00:49.000 So many clips.

02:00:50.000 Such a great day yesterday, what President Trump did.

02:00:54.000 Rubio went on CBS News today and talked about how we have no plans to engage in war, but rather we want to negotiate peacefully, dovetailing what J.D. Vance said this morning on the Sunday morning programs.

02:01:07.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number seven.

02:01:09.000 Let's hope they don't choose that route.

02:01:10.000 Let's all hope that they actually decide, okay, let's go negotiate because we want a diplomatic and peaceful solution.

02:01:16.000 We have achieved our objectives.

02:01:17.000 We're ready to negotiate this in a peaceful, you know, diplomatic way.

02:01:21.000 We've been prepared to do that for days.

02:01:23.000 They are the ones that played games, as they have done for 40 years, as they have done to multiple presidents.

02:01:28.000 They tried to play games with President Trump, and they see what happens.

02:01:31.000 This is not a game-playing president.

02:01:33.000 When he says he's going to do something, he will do it.

02:01:39.000 And as a result of this airstrike, you now have sleeper cells who could potentially be activated.

02:01:46.000 And a lot of people online today were blaming President Trump.

02:01:50.000 They said, well, you know, these sleeper cells wouldn't have been activated or these sleeper cells wouldn't be thinking about carrying out attacks in our country had it not been For these attacks on Iran?

02:02:02.000 Well, the reality is, is we've been talking about these sleeper cells, these Iranian proxies, for a long time.

02:02:08.000 If you were a longtime viewer of my show, you saw a week ago I had Tom Homan on, right?

02:02:12.000 The Borders Are. 0.94

02:02:13.000 And he talked about the threat of these Iranian proxies and the 2 million Godaways, many of whom are Islamic terrorists living in our country. 1.00

02:02:21.000 And now people are up in arms. 0.79

02:02:22.000 They're trying to blame President Trump.

02:02:24.000 They're saying, oh, if we get attacked, it's going to be the fault of President Trump.

02:02:27.000 No, it's actually the fault of Joe Biden who allowed for these 2 million gotaways to come into our country.

02:02:32.000 It's the fault of the Democrats who allowed for years of open borders and thousands of Islamic terrorists, actually millions, really, but millions of Islamic terrorists to come into our country undetected. 0.63

02:02:45.000 As Tom Homan said, a lot of these gotaways is what keeps him up at night. 0.99

02:02:49.000 He said it scares the shit out of him.

02:02:51.000 Tom Homan, you can see that interview on my Rumble channel if you missed that about a week or so ago.

02:02:57.000 We clipped it.

02:02:58.000 We posted it on X for everybody to see. 0.87

02:03:00.000 He said it scares the living shit out of him. 1.00

02:03:02.000 The idea that 2 million gotaways, we don't know who these people are, but we do know that many of them are Islamic terrorists. 0.99

02:03:12.000 We do know that a lot of the people who came in have affiliations with terrorist organizations.

02:03:19.000 But a lot of these individuals have fake documents.

02:03:21.000 A lot of these people use fake names.

02:03:23.000 And so really, who are these people?

02:03:26.000 What's their real identity?

02:03:27.000 And that's the problem is that we have a lot of people who may or may not be, and that's just, you know, put the gotaways aside.

02:03:36.000 What about all the people who have come in, who are in our country and they have been detected and ICE or DHS is aware of them, but maybe they don't actually have the name that ICE has identified them with.

02:03:51.000 Does that make sense, right?

02:03:52.000 There's a lot of people that are swapping out passports and identification documents at the border.

02:03:58.000 There's tons of videos of passports and birth certificates and all types of documents being dumped in the Darien Gap or in the southern border because people are trying to ditch their original documents.

02:04:11.000 They're getting fake documents upon crossing over as a way to pretend to be somebody else to avoid detection on the terror watch list.

02:04:18.000 And our Border Patrol and ICE and DHS encountered individuals who were on the terror watch list, the FBI terror watch list, who were trying to use fake documentation during the Biden regime to come into our country to attack America.

02:04:33.000 And so it just makes you wonder how many of the people who are identified, not talking about the 2 million gotaways, but the people who have been identified aren't really who DHS or Border Patrol thinks these people are because they're still dangerous.

02:04:48.000 We're not saying that they're not dangerous or that they're not criminals, but maybe they're even worse than what DHS thinks that they already are.

02:04:54.000 Maybe they were already, maybe they're even worse than what Border Patrol or ICE thinks that these people already are.

02:04:59.000 So huge problem.

02:05:01.000 And I want to play this clip for you.

02:05:02.000 Let's play clip number nine of Tom Homan today warning about Iranian sleeper cells in the United States, which is exactly what he said on my show a week ago when we had him on to talk about the rise of Islamic activity at these pro-illegal alien protests and riots that we've seen erupt across our country.

02:05:21.000 Let's go ahead and play clip number nine.

02:05:24.000 Can you assess that issue particularly?

02:05:26.000 How many Iranians are in the country that are in sleeper cells trying to do bad to America right now? 1.00

02:05:36.000 Well, look, you and I have talked about this many times.

02:05:38.000 I said the last four years, my biggest concern was this open border was the biggest national security vulnerability this country's ever seen.

02:05:45.000 So I pulled numbers this morning just from a CBP under Joe Biden.

02:05:48.000 There was 1,272 nationalists of Iran releasing the country between OFO and the Borbatro.

02:05:56.000 And you compare that to the Trump administration, zero, right?

02:05:59.000 Zero releases.

02:06:00.000 And right now, because of President Trump's leadership, we have the most secure border in my lifetime, most secure border in history of this nation.

02:06:06.000 So we have a secure border.

02:06:08.000 So that was President Trump's big win on securing this nation.

02:06:12.000 So we're not releasing people in this country.

02:06:13.000 Special interest aliens aren't crossing that border undetected.

02:06:16.000 But under Joe Biden, we had over 10 million people cross that border.

02:06:19.000 But my biggest concern from day one, beyond the fentanyl, beyond the sex trafficking, women, and children, were the 2 million known gotaways.

02:06:27.000 Over 2 million people crossed that border.

02:06:29.000 We don't know who they are, where they came from, because they got away because Border Patrol was so overwhelmed with the humanitarian crisis that Biden created that over 2 million people crossed the border and got away.

02:06:39.000 That is my biggest concern, and that's what created the biggest national security vulnerability this country's ever seen.

02:06:46.000 And you have that on surveillance, seeing people get away.

02:06:49.000 Do you have a sense of where they went?

02:06:53.000 No, you know, the intelligence community under President Trump has been on this since day one.

02:06:58.000 What gives me any comfort at all is that you don't have Chris Ferray there.

02:07:02.000 You got Cash Patel there.

02:07:04.000 You don't have Alejanda Mayorkas there anymore. 1.00

02:07:07.000 You got Christy Noam.

02:07:08.000 And you certainly don't have Kamal Harris as a border star.

02:07:11.000 So President Trump brought a great team, been on this since day one.

02:07:14.000 Do we know where every one of the two million are?

02:07:16.000 No.

02:07:17.000 We don't know who they all are.

02:07:18.000 We don't know why they're here or where they came from.

02:07:20.000 But we do know Border Patrol Intelligence for the last four years, they found prayer mats south of the border.

02:07:26.000 They found identification from people from Iran, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Syria south of the border.

02:07:32.000 So we know that some terrorists have crossed that border. 0.67

02:07:36.000 We'd be a fool to think zero cross.

02:07:38.000 The thing is, though, we got President Trump as a commander-in-chief who's put all resources on this.

02:07:43.000 That's why President Trump from day one, ICE operations, despite what the left media says, he has been focused on national security threats and public safety threats.

02:07:51.000 And between ICE and the Bureau, we've removed thousands of national security threats because of President Trump's leadership on this.

02:07:57.000 Yes, that's right.

02:07:58.000 Tom, thank you very much.

02:08:01.000 And that's exactly why what President Trump did is America First.

02:08:06.000 As I said, been saying this for years, and Tom Homan came on the show to talk about it.

02:08:10.000 He just confirmed it again today on Maria Bartaromo show.

02:08:13.000 They have the passports.

02:08:15.000 They have the documentation of people, Muslim terrorists, Iranian proxies who are dumping their passports because when they're getting to Border Patrol or they're crossing into our country illegally, they don't want to have any documentation on them because They don't want to be known. 0.94

02:08:31.000 They don't want to be identified.

02:08:33.000 Why are they doing this?

02:08:34.000 Because they clearly want to hide in the shadows, because they want to evade Border Patrol.

02:08:42.000 They want to evade our national security representatives so that they can carry out an act of terror, so that they can carry out crimes.

02:08:50.000 You know, you have different types of illegals.

02:08:52.000 You have people that want their documentation and, you know, they try to get asylum or they have no problem, right?

02:08:59.000 They have no problem using their real ID.

02:09:01.000 Places like California, they don't care, right?

02:09:03.000 Catch and release, they're not going to do anything with these illegal aliens. 1.00

02:09:06.000 And a lot of these illegals have no problem showing their real ID. 0.79

02:09:09.000 But the people that are dumping their passports and dumping their IDs and dumping their birth certificates in the desert while crossing over illegally into the United States, a lot of these people, as Tom Homan said, are from Islamic countries who are dumping their documents and they have prayer mats and they're finding Qurans.

02:09:29.000 These are not good people.

02:09:30.000 If you dump your identification, you don't want anybody to find out who you are, probably for nefarious reasons.

02:09:41.000 So I wouldn't be surprised if we get attacked, not because of what President Trump did, but because I think that they're doing a good job.

02:09:52.000 I would like to see there be more mass deportations.

02:09:55.000 I think that the speed and the amount of deportations could increase.

02:10:01.000 I really do.

02:10:02.000 But unfortunately, a lot of these deportations have been blocked by these obstructionist activist judges who, as we just discussed, are trying to stage a judicial coup in our country.

02:10:12.000 And so we are working against the clock here.

02:10:15.000 We only have 3.5 more years left to get this done.

02:10:19.000 65 million illegal aliens in our country.

02:10:22.000 They've been telling us that 20 million illegals are in our country since Ronald Reagan was president.

02:10:26.000 How if Joe Biden invited 20 million into our country and these people had kids, the 20 million that Ronald Reagan said were in our country, how are there only 20 million illegals in our country?

02:10:39.000 The number is more like 65 million, but you still see all the politicians citing that same 20 million number for the number of illegal aliens in our country.

02:10:50.000 It's 65 million.

02:10:51.000 That means that one in five people living in this country is an illegal alien.

02:10:56.000 Okay?

02:10:57.000 That's the breakdown for you.

02:10:58.000 One in five people living in this country is an illegal alien.

02:11:06.000 So huge problem.

02:11:08.000 And we're at risk of being attacked.

02:11:11.000 And as I said today, if you live in a city with a large Muslim population, you need to be armed. 1.00

02:11:16.000 If you yourself are an assimilated Muslim who fled an Islamic regime and you do not agree with all of the butchery of the Islamic ideology, but you still identify as a Muslim, you also need to protect yourself because these proxies are out to kill non-Muslims. 0.99

02:11:33.000 They're out to kill Westerners. 0.99

02:11:35.000 And they're also out to kill and they're out to harm Muslims who embrace the West, Muslims who are assimilated and now citizens of this country. 0.99

02:11:45.000 They don't just want to kill U.S. citizens. 0.99

02:11:48.000 They don't just want to kill Westerners. 1.00

02:11:50.000 They don't just want to kill Jews. 1.00

02:11:52.000 They don't just want to kill Christians. 0.98

02:11:54.000 But a lot of the targets of these Islamic proxies, these Iranian proxies, these Islamic terrorists are Muslims themselves who try to practice a form of Islamic reformation. 0.97

02:12:05.000 So some people will say, oh, well, you're just trying to incite violence against Muslims. 0.54

02:12:09.000 No, actually, I'm telling you that assimilated Muslims who have embraced Western society and, you know, are not out here calling for jihad every day and not out here, maybe they, maybe they're not super religious or they just identify as Muslim because their parents are Muslim or their grandparents were Muslim, but they're not fanatics, right?

02:12:28.000 Those people are also at risk of being attacked because they will view you as an apostate in a place like Iran if you push for Islamic reformation.

02:12:38.000 So those people need to be careful too.

02:12:40.000 Everybody needs to start caring.

02:12:42.000 Everybody needs to start thinking of their safety because I think it's very likely that we will see some type of attack.

02:12:48.000 And it has nothing to do with President Trump striking Iran's nuclear facilities.

02:12:52.000 It has everything to do with the fact that Joe Biden and the Democrats allowed for over 2 million illegal alien Islamic terrorists to come into our country.

02:13:02.000 And every single state, all 50 states in our country now have Iranian proxies. 0.78

02:13:08.000 All 50 states, according to the FBI, have ISIS terrorists.

02:13:12.000 So whether it's ISIS, whether it's Hamas, whether it's Hezbollah, we have terrorists living amongst us in all 50 states, and every American needs to take that threat seriously.

02:13:23.000 And so if the Iranians are sending illegal aliens to our country to attack Americans, isn't it in our best interest to denuclearize Iran? 0.97

02:13:32.000 How is that Israel first? 1.00

02:13:33.000 How is it Israel first to denuclearize Iran when Iran is sending illegal alien terrorists to our country? 0.95

02:13:40.000 A lot of them are traveling through South America.

02:13:42.000 When I was in the Darien Gap, you know, they have entire Hezbollah encampments. 1.00

02:13:46.000 It's well known.

02:13:47.000 It's well known that Hezbollah comes in through Colombia and Panama. 0.96

02:13:51.000 So these Iranian proxies are taking advantage of illegal immigration to come to America to attack and kill American citizens. 1.00

02:14:00.000 And what did Trump say? 0.91

02:14:01.000 He was going to make America safe again.

02:14:04.000 What did Trump say?

02:14:05.000 I'm going to make it so that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

02:14:07.000 Promises made, promises kept.

02:14:09.000 So I think that a lot of this activity that we're seeing against President Trump is paid for.

02:14:15.000 I think there's a lot of people that are starting to see the writing on the wall after these next 3.5 years.

02:14:20.000 They're thinking Trump's going to be gone.

02:14:22.000 I need to try to start establishing myself for the next financial grift.

02:14:26.000 There's a lot of people who made a lot of money off of President Trump and his name.

02:14:30.000 And now they want to throw him under the bus, knowing that they're not going to need him for anything in 3.5 years, or at least they think they're not going to need him for anything.

02:14:38.000 And they're trying to find inroads with the radical left or the Muslims or the communists or whoever it may be, anybody who's trying to undermine President Trump.

02:14:47.000 That's what they're trying to do.

02:14:48.000 Because look, there is a big movement right now.

02:14:51.000 And if we lose the House, then President Trump would become a lame duck president because, well, they're going to attack him and they're going to undermine his agenda every day like they did during His first term when we lost the House and we lost the Senate, and the Democrats were able to, you know, file these bogus impeachment charges against the president and harass him and try to block his entire agenda and stage a coup against his administration and almost throw him in jail.

02:15:15.000 So, I can't say with confidence that we're going to win the House.

02:15:18.000 I can't say with confidence that we're going to keep the House and the Senate.

02:15:21.000 I really can't because I don't think that the Republicans are doing enough to use their power to fight back against this infiltration and subversion.

02:15:29.000 I think that there's too much going along to get along.

02:15:32.000 And eventually, 2026 is going to come along and we're going to be asking ourselves, what did we do to stop this invasion?

02:15:40.000 What did the DOJ do to crack down on Islam in America?

02:15:43.000 What did the DOJ do to crack down on terrorist activity in America?

02:15:47.000 What did the DOJ do to go after these activist judges who are trying to stage a judicial coup?

02:15:52.000 What did they do?

02:15:54.000 And if the answer is not enough or nothing, well, too bad.

02:15:56.000 That's going to be the end of our country.

02:15:58.000 It's not going to matter if Trump's in the White House because they're going to be able to subvert every single thing that he does.

02:16:04.000 And he's not going to be able to get any part of his agenda through the House or the Senate.

02:16:09.000 So, you know, we actually really don't have 3.5 years.

02:16:13.000 We have about one year left, right?

02:16:15.000 We have one year left for Republicans to get it together to start increasing the heat and applying more pressure.

02:16:23.000 Otherwise, I don't think things are going to look too great in our country.

02:16:27.000 Not because of President Trump, but because where's the leadership?

02:16:31.000 We're not seeing enough leadership.

02:16:32.000 Republicans need to be doing more also to push back on these foreign influence operations that are attacking Donald Trump.

02:16:38.000 Look at Tucker Carlson, another grifter trying to lie about President Trump, trying to say that he's at America first and that his whole entire legacy as president is going to be destroyed if he does these strategic attacks on Iran's nuclear facilities.

02:16:51.000 Did Tucker Carlson scream about that when President Trump raided al-Baghdadi and killed al-Baghdadi?

02:16:56.000 Did Tucker Carlson say this?

02:16:57.000 Did Candace Owens say this when President Trump killed Soleimani?

02:17:01.000 Last time I checked, they were celebrating.

02:17:03.000 Last time I checked, they were celebrating.

02:17:05.000 And this is why, you know, Iranian state media is now showing people like Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens, and they're using them as voices to try to undermine President Trump and his administration.

02:17:15.000 If Iranian state media, which is regime media, Islamic supremacist state media, is using your talking points to fight against President Trump, you are on the losing side of this issue.

02:17:28.000 You are America last. 0.92

02:17:30.000 If the Iranian terrorists are using your comments to push back against the United States of America, you are on the losing side of this argument. 0.69

02:17:38.000 You are.

02:17:40.000 you're on the losing side of this argument.

02:17:48.000 So I'm not doing what I'm doing to get rich.

02:17:51.000 I'm not doing what I'm doing to undermine President Trump.

02:17:54.000 I'm not looking for my next big payout or my next big payday.

02:17:58.000 As people saw, right, it puts you at a financial disadvantage to be a Trump loyalist because you see that you're targeted.

02:18:04.000 Look, I just explained to you the litigation I'm involved in.

02:18:07.000 People know that I was subjected to cancel culture for years.

02:18:09.000 It's not like being a loyalist is financially beneficial, but I'm not focused on what is financially beneficial.

02:18:16.000 I'm focused on what's right for my country and what's right for President Trump.

02:18:19.000 And too many of these influencers and too many of these pundits are doing what's going to be good for their wallet, not what's going to be good for our country, not what's going to be good for our national security and not what's going to be good for their future, their children's future, and the future of Western civilization. 0.98

02:18:35.000 So I don't really give a shit if they want to call me Israel first, if they want to call me all these nasty names and call me a Jewish propagandist. 0.98

02:18:41.000 I am America first. 0.98

02:18:42.000 And if you can't see the threat of Iranian proxies coming into our country illegally and being activated and you can't see the threat of, you know, the Iranian regime sending sleeper cells to our country and they've been doing it for years to try to weaken America from within, then I don't know.

02:18:58.000 I don't know what's wrong with you.

02:18:59.000 I don't know what's going to open your eyes or what's going to teach you.

02:19:02.000 Maybe you need to see another 9-11 in order to wake up.

02:19:05.000 I don't know.

02:19:05.000 I hope we don't get to that point in time, but I feel like that's where things are heading.

02:19:09.000 I really do.

02:19:10.000 That's where things are heading in my opinion.

02:19:12.000 Okay.

02:19:16.000 Thank you.

02:19:17.000 Let's see.

02:19:20.000 Smiley NSB said, you're sharing the truth.

02:19:22.000 So share, share, share.

02:19:23.000 Yeah, this is the truth.

02:19:24.000 This is the truth.

02:19:25.000 And look, there's a lot of bot networks.

02:19:27.000 Don't believe everything that you see online.

02:19:30.000 I'm not saying you have to take everything I say 100%.

02:19:33.000 Maybe you're not going to agree with everything that I say, right?

02:19:36.000 I'm not a propagandist.

02:19:37.000 What I'm telling you is be very skeptical of the information that you see online because a lot of it is being propped up by bot networks.

02:19:45.000 There's foreign money that's being injected all throughout social media to try to pay people off, to push a pro-Iran, pro-Russia, pro-China message, to try to undermine President Trump, to weaken his legacy so that America crumbles to the threat of this red-green alliance, this red-green alliance, this communist-Islamist alliance. 0.78

02:20:04.000 So again, you know, you should really be skeptical of who some of these people are that you're getting your information from and ask yourself, you know, what benefit they have in propping up Iran. 0.62

02:20:18.000 Nobody should be propping up Iran right now. 0.88

02:20:20.000 It doesn't matter if you're anti-war.

02:20:22.000 It doesn't matter if you're pro-regime change.

02:20:25.000 Nobody should be giving fodder to the Iranian regime to be utilizing on their own television networks.

02:20:36.000 terrible.

02:20:37.000 I'm not sure.

02:20:45.000 Somebody said, this is not good in my opinion, Laura.

02:20:47.000 I don't see any benefits for America.

02:20:49.000 Well, we have an Iranian threat in our own country. 1.00

02:20:53.000 So if you don't see the benefit for America by President Trump showing strength and force against the Iranian regime after they sent 2 million Iranian proxies into our country to be activated at any moment to kill and maim Americans, I don't know what to tell you. 0.96

02:21:08.000 I don't know what to tell you.

02:21:09.000 If you don't understand the concept of making America safe again and trying to root out these Iranian proxies and make sure that people who chant death to America are not only not able to keep sending their Iranian proxies to America to kill Americans, 0.99

02:21:25.000 but they're not able to get access to a nuclear weapon to nuke the West and nuke our country here in America, the United States of America, if you don't want Americans to be murdered in a nuclear holocaust, then I don't know what to tell you. 0.65

02:21:40.000 If you really can't see, if you're telling me that you don't know how this is good for our country, then you must be okay with the possibility of Americans being killed in a nuclear holocaust. 0.71

02:21:51.000 I don't know what to tell you.

02:21:53.000 I don't want to get nuked for Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones and Candace Owens, okay?

02:21:59.000 Just like these people like to say, I don't want to die for Israel.

02:22:02.000 Well, I don't want to get nuked for Tucker Carlson.

02:22:04.000 I don't want to get nuked for Alex Jones.

02:22:05.000 I don't want to get nuked for Candace Owens, okay?

02:22:08.000 I don't want to die in a nuclear holocaust. 0.92

02:22:10.000 don't so just People used to agree on this.

02:22:20.000 They used to agree that Islam was a threat to the West, that we needed to preserve our values here.

02:22:25.000 We needed to preserve Western civilization.

02:22:27.000 And it's very concerning to see so many people running cover for this Iranian regime.

02:22:38.000 We actually have a video.

02:22:39.000 Some people in the chat said they want to see this.

02:22:41.000 So let's go ahead and play clip number 20 because if you think that I'm making this up about Candace Owens being on Iranian state regime TV this week and Nick Funtis too.

02:22:52.000 Nick Funtis was also featured.

02:22:53.000 They actually played a clip from one of his monologues and Candace Owens.

02:22:57.000 I like to call Candace Owens Tehran Candy. 0.54

02:23:01.000 You know, we had Hanoi Jane.

02:23:02.000 We had Hanoi Jane.

02:23:03.000 Now we have Tehran Candy. 0.63

02:23:05.000 I call her Tehran Candy. 0.99

02:23:07.000 This is bad.

02:23:07.000 This is career-ending stuff to be featured on Iranian state media.

02:23:12.000 I mean, think about this. 0.99

02:23:13.000 These people are Islamic terrorists. 1.00

02:23:15.000 These people have killed U.S. service members and they are cropping up Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes to work against the United States of America. 0.98

02:23:24.000 Let's go ahead and play the clip.

02:23:41.000 I was a little bit of a thought that Trump could be able to get him.

02:23:44.000 I was a little bit of a thought that he would have been able to get him.

02:23:48.000 I was a little bit of a thought that he would have been able to get him.

02:23:55.000 There you have it.

02:23:57.000 So it's it's real.

02:23:58.000 A lot of people said, oh, that's not real.

02:24:00.000 They didn't show her on Iranian state TV.

02:24:02.000 Yeah, they did.

02:24:03.000 They did.

02:24:04.000 And trust me, I know a lot of people.

02:24:06.000 I know a lot of people at the White House.

02:24:08.000 I know a lot of people in conservative media and politics.

02:24:11.000 I know everybody.

02:24:12.000 Doesn't mean I get along with everybody, but I know everybody.

02:24:14.000 And let's just say that this clip was circulating in a lot of chats today, and there were a lot of discussions about how concerning it was.

02:24:22.000 So it's really bad.

02:24:24.000 Very, very bad.

02:24:29.000 And here's an example of the threat of Islam and these Iranian proxies in our country here on U.S. soil. 1.00

02:24:37.000 This is a report by Amy Meck, who's a journalist who does a lot of reporting on the threat of Islam in America and the threat of Islamic immigration.

02:24:47.000 And here's a video of an Islamic cleric here in the United States, I believe in Texas, talking about how after these strikes on Iran, Muslims need to rise up against the infidels, which are non-Muslims. 1.00

02:25:03.000 They need to rise up against the infidels and pledge allegiance to Iran. 1.00

02:25:07.000 We've got millions of people, okay? 0.56

02:25:10.000 Millions of these people, these Muslims living in our country who have the same views as this crackpot jihadi calling for Muslims to rise up in American cities and to pledge allegiance to the Ayatollah. 0.99

02:25:23.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip.

02:25:24.000 This is happening.

02:25:25.000 This just happened on U.S. soil.

02:25:26.000 So this is not, you know, the Middle East.

02:25:29.000 This is not Iran, this clip that I'm showing you.

02:25:31.000 This is Texas.

02:25:33.000 Okay, this is Texas.

02:25:34.000 Go ahead and play the clip.

02:25:35.000 Be angry at those whom you deserve to be angry at.

02:25:39.000 And it is those politicians who sided with the abettors of massacring. 0.97

02:25:44.000 But even in that anger, and even those who sided with the zulm, let us be clear here.

02:25:50.000 The two sides are not equal.

02:25:53.000 On the one side, you have the bloodthirsty, colonialist settler enterprise, a machine of cruelty that has industrialized genocide, trampled on every single remnant of human dignity, unleashed a cruelty so depra- That is the reality. 0.67

02:26:15.000 Contrast this with the other side, Iran right now. 0.95

02:26:19.000 The average person in that country has nothing to do with the foreign policy.

02:26:23.000 In that land, the adan is being called.

02:26:26.000 In that land, the masajid are being filled. 0.99

02:26:29.000 In that land, sajdah is done. 0.99

02:26:30.000 In that land, the Quran is recited.

02:26:33.000 In that land, as this battle is going on, they are invoking Allah for help.

02:26:37.000 How can you compare this with that?

02:26:40.000 Wallahi, this is the height of injustice.

02:26:42.000 No matter how angry you are, and yes, wallahi, some of that anger is legitimate.

02:26:47.000 Some of that anger against politicians of that country of Iran is legitimate. 0.99

02:26:51.000 No matter how angry you are, the two are not and cannot be the same.

02:26:56.000 And also, by the way, do you really think, oh innocent person who thinks these two are equal, do you really think that Israel only wants to destroy Iran and that is it?

02:27:06.000 Have you lost all sense and sensibility?

02:27:08.000 Do you not understand that after Iran it is every single Muslim superpower in the region? 0.98

02:27:14.000 Do you really think that it is just one land?

02:27:17.000 You cheering them on against Iran is you cheering them on against yourself when your own turn comes. 0.99

02:27:22.000 They have publicly and blatantly said they want a greater Israel project.

02:27:27.000 They want to gobble up every single Muslim land and region. 1.00

02:27:31.000 Some of their maps that they say greater Israel includes Mecca and Medina. 0.99

02:27:35.000 And here you are, O naive, foolish person, blinded in your hatred, angry in your sectarianism, believing the two are the same. 0.99

02:27:43.000 No, wallahi, they are not the same. 0.99

02:27:45.000 And I say this as somebody who strongly disagrees theologically and politically with the country of Iran.

02:27:51.000 But still, on the one hand, you have Iman, even if it has mistakes.

02:27:55.000 On the other, you have not just kufr, but blatant kufr.

02:27:58.000 Not just average kufr, but the most deviant, arrogant type of kufr that we have not seen for many millennia. 1.00

02:28:04.000 This is firanic Kufr on the one side. 0.93

02:28:06.000 No matter whatever mistakes the other side is making, you cannot equate the two.

02:28:11.000 And so, in this current conflict going on, I state unequivocally that yes, while I do not support Iran unconditionally in this conflict, without a doubt, the aggressor is Israel. 0.84

02:28:24.000 Without a doubt, the dhum that is happening is happening from and because of Israel. 1.00

02:28:29.000 And I will criticize Israel a million times before I criticize the other side for having done what exactly in the current conflict.

02:28:36.000 Whatever grievances we have and we have grievances, let us agree to pause them for the time being.

02:28:41.000 I'm not saying ignore.

02:28:42.000 Once things settle down, once things are calm, once we have both eliminated the common enemy, then let us sit down and dialogue heart to heart.

02:28:51.000 Let us see what can be done.

02:28:52.000 Let us see if we can solve our internal differences is to see Muslim countries, Muslim rulers who are unfortunately siding with Israel, aiding and abetting Israel against the bombing of a fellow Muslim land. 0.77

02:29:06.000 Wallahu Musta'an, we seek Allah's refuge.

02:29:09.000 Wallahi, shame, shame on anybody who sides with the butchers of babies and with genocide enablers against people who say the kalimah and who pray to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.

02:29:19.000 To Allah we complain and to him we show of our reality and weakness that, oh Allah, we have nothing to do with anybody who sides with tyranny and oppression against justice and against the people of Islam.

02:29:36.000 And what should you be asking yourself after watching that clip?

02:29:40.000 Why did we let these people into our country? 1.00

02:29:42.000 That's what you should be asking yourself.

02:29:44.000 Why did we let these people into our country? 1.00

02:29:46.000 Why do we have millions of these jihadists who would kill us if they had the opportunity?

02:29:51.000 I mean, you can look at the way he's talking.

02:29:53.000 Rise up.

02:29:55.000 Rise up against the infidel. 1.00

02:29:56.000 You know what that means? 1.00

02:29:57.000 It means kill the non-Muslim. 1.00

02:29:59.000 So we have a serious problem in this country. 1.00

02:30:01.000 As President Trump said, we have a Muslim problem in this country. 0.92

02:30:05.000 In fact, there's a clip. 0.88

02:30:08.000 Let me find it.

02:30:08.000 I posted this on my account the other day.

02:30:12.000 And it's a great clip.

02:30:13.000 It's a really great clip.

02:30:14.000 It's a compilation of President Trump speaking out about the threat of Islam in our country. 1.00

02:30:20.000 And it's something that we don't really see a lot of Republicans talk about anymore.

02:30:24.000 I'm going to send this to my producer.

02:30:25.000 I have him pull this up right now.

02:30:28.000 This is a great clip.

02:30:29.000 And you can see President Trump's own statements over the years of him talking about the threat of Islam and the threat that Muslims pose in our country and how we need to have mass surveillance of mosques and how we need to start addressing this threat before these people come and kill Americans.

02:30:46.000 And so if this is not addressed, if the mass deportations do not increase and we do not get a hold on these Iranian proxies and President Trump, look, President Trump already showed extreme and very effective force and strength. 0.89

02:31:01.000 It was amazing.

02:31:02.000 It was probably one of the most sophisticated military operations ever.

02:31:07.000 Just required a lot of coordination and precision on behalf of the United States and Israel working together to take these nuclear facilities out.

02:31:19.000 President Trump needs to be able to show force against Iran. 0.99

02:31:22.000 He needs to be able to show force against the Iranian regime, or else they're going to think that it's okay to send their jihadi hate preachers here to our country to preach the killing of infidels. 0.88

02:31:32.000 And then one day we are going to find ourselves the victims of a Sharia supremacy takeover. 0.99

02:31:38.000 Do we have this clip?

02:31:39.000 I want to go ahead and play this clip just because I don't think a lot of people really understand that Donald Trump campaigned on this.

02:31:45.000 This is what it means to be America first.

02:31:51.000 If you are new, my producers of my era, the clip I just texted you, this isn't something that was on the show doc.

02:31:56.000 So I just texted you a new clip.

02:31:58.000 Let's get this pulled up.

02:32:00.000 It's a clip.

02:32:00.000 It's a compilation of President Trump speaking about the threat of Islam.

02:32:06.000 And you have all these people that came into our party that really don't understand what it means to be MAGA.

02:32:12.000 And now these people are disruptors.

02:32:14.000 Some of them are being paid by Qatar.

02:32:15.000 They're sowing Discord and they're trying to pretend like they get to tell President Trump what it means to be MAGA.

02:32:21.000 They get to tell President Trump what it means to be America first.

02:32:23.000 And the reality is, is you don't know your foreign policy was Democrat foreign policy.

02:32:29.000 Your foreign policy is not the foreign policy that President Trump has been campaigning on, not just for the 10 years that it's been since he officially launched his presidential campaign, but also before he launched his presidential campaign, when he would constantly rail against the Obama administration for their handling of the JCPOA, the Iran nuclear deal.

02:32:50.000 He would constantly rail against the threat of Islam.

02:32:53.000 He constantly spoke out about the threat of Sharia supremacy in our country. 0.98

02:32:58.000 And I have a serious problem with people like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and others that are now trying to redefine what it means to be America first.

02:33:08.000 These people were not with Trump since the beginning.

02:33:10.000 These people were not with President Trump since day one.

02:33:13.000 And if you were not with President Trump since day one, you really honestly have no right to be telling President Trump what it means to be MAGA and what it means to be America first.

02:33:21.000 And you also have no reason to be gaslighting people into thinking that we should be having acceptance and no fear of this Islamic ideology that seeks to oppress and kill everything that is non-Muslim. 0.99

02:33:35.000 Let's go ahead and play this compilation. 0.95

02:33:39.000 It's a Muslim problem in the world. 1.00

02:33:41.000 But you do believe overall there is a Muslim problem in the world. 0.99

02:33:45.000 Well, there is a Muslim problem, absolutely. 1.00

02:33:47.000 You just have to turn on your television, sir. 1.00

02:33:49.000 I think Islam hates us. 1.00

02:33:52.000 Did you mean all 1.6 billion Muslims? 0.99

02:33:55.000 I mean a lot of them.

02:33:56.000 You look at what's happening with the Quran. 0.99

02:33:59.000 It's a pretty scary thing.

02:34:01.000 There's something there that teaches some very negative vibes.

02:34:06.000 They do not respect us at all.

02:34:08.000 Large portions of a group of people.

02:34:11.000 Islam.

02:34:12.000 Large portions want to use very, very harsh means. 0.90

02:34:16.000 You have more than a handful of moderate Muslims, but you certainly have a problem with Muslims. 0.95

02:34:21.000 If you have people coming out of mosques with hatred and with death in their eyes and on their minds, we're going to have to do something.

02:34:30.000 They're trying to take over our children and convince them how wonderful ISIS is and how wonderful Islam is, and we don't know what's happening.

02:34:39.000 And we have to look at the Muslims and we have to do something. 1.00

02:34:43.000 We cannot stand by and be the stupid people while our country is destroyed. 1.00

02:34:48.000 I want surveillance of certain mosques, okay? 1.00

02:34:54.000 And as I'm playing this clip for you, Candace Owens is out again saying, you can't make this shit up. 1.00

02:34:59.000 It's almost cartoonish. 0.98

02:35:00.000 Totally legit Iranian sleeper cell attack on American soil is now to be expected, mocking the fact that, you know, we have millions of Iranian sleeper cells in our country. 0.87

02:35:10.000 So these people are enemies to America. 0.96

02:35:12.000 As far as I'm concerned, Candace Owens is a traitor to her country. 1.00

02:35:15.000 She's an enemy to America. 1.00

02:35:16.000 And why doesn't she just go back to the UK with her husband, right? 1.00

02:35:19.000 She married this guy for money. 1.00

02:35:21.000 She's married to this rich guy. 1.00

02:35:22.000 Go move to the fucking UK, Candace. 1.00

02:35:25.000 Okay, get the fuck out of America if you're going to gaslight people into thinking that, oh, we don't have Islamic terrorists living in our country. 1.00

02:35:33.000 We do. 1.00

02:35:34.000 And, you know, you have to really question her intentions.

02:35:36.000 If you're going to go around gaslighting people, telling them that they don't need to be worried about a terror threat when our own national security officials have identified known Islamic terrorists who have crossed into our country.

02:35:47.000 What are you doing? 0.93

02:35:49.000 Are you trying to get Americans killed?

02:35:51.000 So again, you have to be very skeptical of these people who are trying to undermine not just our national security, but are trying to give an upper hand to Islamic supremacy. 0.99

02:36:03.000 As I said before, Candace Owens married into a very wealthy family, right? 0.72

02:36:07.000 Her husband is British.

02:36:08.000 I've met him before.

02:36:09.000 Nice guy.

02:36:09.000 Nothing against him.

02:36:10.000 His name's George.

02:36:11.000 Nice guy.

02:36:12.000 But look what's happened to the UK.

02:36:15.000 They have allowed themselves to be totally conquered by Muslims. 1.00

02:36:18.000 They have allowed themselves to be totally conquered by Islam. 1.00

02:36:21.000 And now she's actually gaslighting people. 0.99

02:36:23.000 Let's get this clip.

02:36:24.000 Let's get this tweet pulled up. 0.79

02:36:26.000 This is just ridiculous.

02:36:27.000 I mean, people have to see this. 0.94

02:36:28.000 And look, I used to be friends with Candace Owens.

02:36:31.000 You know, we used to hang out.

02:36:33.000 I used to, you know, go to dinners with her and whatnot when we all lived in Westchester.

02:36:37.000 I used to hang out with her, but something has happened to her.

02:36:40.000 Something has happened to her and she has changed.

02:36:42.000 She has changed and not for the better.

02:36:44.000 Not for the better.

02:36:46.000 Nothing positive has come out of whatever happened to Candace Owens.

02:36:49.000 Let's go ahead and pull this tweet up and people can see.

02:36:54.000 Is she calling Donald Trump a liar?

02:36:56.000 Is she calling Tom Homan a liar?

02:36:58.000 Is she calling our border patrol officers liars?

02:37:00.000 Is she calling ICE agents liars who have come into contact with Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists and Iranian proxies who have tried to, excuse me, carry out attacks in our country?

02:37:10.000 One hour ago, she just posted this.

02:37:12.000 One hour ago.

02:37:13.000 You can't make this up.

02:37:14.000 It's almost cartoonish.

02:37:15.000 Totally legit.

02:37:16.000 She's trying to basically take away any type of actual legitimate national security concern that Americans should be worried about and have Americans become sitting ducks. 1.00

02:37:32.000 I mean, it just makes you wonder.

02:37:34.000 Is she trying to get American citizens killed? 1.00

02:37:36.000 Is she trying to get American citizens killed in an act of Islamic terror? 0.98

02:37:40.000 Because that's what it sounds like. 0.89

02:37:41.000 It sounds like that's what she's trying to do.

02:37:44.000 If you're telling people in a sarcastic manner, oh, totally legit Iranian sleeper cell attack. 0.95

02:37:50.000 Oh, you don't have to worry about it. 0.95

02:37:52.000 I am going to ask you, are you trying to get Americans killed?

02:37:56.000 Why do you not want Americans to be vigilant about the fact that we have been invaded by, I mean, I just played for you the clip of that Imam in Texas talking about how people need to rise up against the infidels and stand with these Iranian terrorists. 1.00

02:38:13.000 So you can think what you want, but it's pretty obvious that there are people.

02:38:18.000 And again, right?

02:38:19.000 She is not really living in reality compared to your average person.

02:38:23.000 She married into extreme wealth.

02:38:25.000 Okay.

02:38:26.000 She has a very privileged lifestyle.

02:38:28.000 She has a very privileged lifestyle.

02:38:31.000 She's not going to feel the pain that a lot of other Americans are going to feel. 0.98

02:38:35.000 I bet she has security.

02:38:37.000 I bet she lives in a gated community. 0.96

02:38:40.000 Okay.

02:38:41.000 She's not going to be subjected to the same type of security threats as other Americans or other people living in the UK who have to deal with the threat of Islamic immigration and Islamic terror in their country. 0.95

02:38:54.000 So it's very pompous and it's very arrogant for her to be mocking this situation because when something bad does happen and innocent people are hurt, I'm going to point back at all of these tweets from all of these social media influencers who are simping for Qatar, simping for Iran, and trying to downplay the actual legitimate threat of Islamic terrorism. 0.87

02:39:14.000 It's a national security threat.

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02:40:22.000 Look, people can watch whoever they want to watch.

02:40:24.000 People can be friends with whoever they want to be friends with.

02:40:26.000 But if you take anything from this episode tonight, it's that you should be very skeptical of all the information that you're consuming right now.

02:40:36.000 Ask yourself why people would want to be propping up a regime that has killed thousands of Americans in acts of terror.

02:40:44.000 Ask yourself why Iranian terrorist media is propping up certain social media influencers that are encouraging people to be anti-Trump. 0.74

02:40:53.000 Just ask yourself, what would be the benefit of that?

02:40:55.000 And also ask yourself how these people may be benefiting, whether it's professionally, Politically, financially, socially.

02:41:02.000 We don't know.

02:41:03.000 We don't know how these people are benefiting.

02:41:05.000 I have my suspicions, but you should be asking these questions.

02:41:09.000 Ask yourself how people like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and others benefit from downplaying legitimate terror threats in our country and undermining President Trump and his foreign policy at the expense of the safety of American citizens.

02:41:24.000 Ask yourself.

02:41:26.000 I'm very concerned by the total 180 rhetoric that a lot of these people have and the national security implications it's going to have in our country.

02:41:35.000 And I'm going to be following this closely.

02:41:37.000 I'm going to be documenting this closely.

02:41:39.000 And I'm going to continue exposing and reporting on people and calling people out publicly who are pushing out false information, who are trying to make Americans sitting ducks while we have a legitimate terror threat in our country, because people need the truth.

02:41:54.000 People don't need to be gaslit and fed Islamic propaganda.

02:41:57.000 American citizens need to understand that the enemy is here, the enemy is among you, and Donald Trump is doing what he can to try to denuclearize that enemy from becoming more violent than they already are.

02:42:08.000 People have already been killed.

02:42:09.000 People have already died, not because of Donald Trump, but because of the Iranian regime and these proxies and Hamas and Hezbollah who want nothing more than to kill every non-Muslim and every supporter of Western civilization, every American and every Israeli they meet in their path. 0.99

02:42:25.000 So it's very important that as this conflict continues to escalate, that you are weary of the people who are providing you information.

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Loomer Unleashed - June 23, 2025

EP128: Iran's Nuclear Program Goes BOOM

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