Loomer Unleashed - EP13: Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis LIVE DEBATE COVERAGE with Laura LoomerEP13: Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis LIVE DEBATE COVERAGE with Laura Loomer

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00:10:39.000 Good evening and welcome to episode 13 of Loomer Unleashed.

00:10:42.000 I'm your host, Laura Loomer.

00:10:44.000 Tonight on Loomer Unleashed, I will be providing live coverage of the debate between Ron DeSantis and California Governor Gavin Newsom.

00:10:52.000 The fact that this debate is occurring at all is quite an interesting curiosity.

00:10:57.000 Many of you are probably asking yourselves, why would Ron DeSantis be going out of his way to debate a Democrat while the Republican primary is still underway?

00:11:06.000 Better yet, why is Gavin Newsom debating a potential presidential candidate when he himself is not even running?

00:11:13.000 Also, why is the media, led by Fox News in this case, propping up this debate with so much fanfare?

00:11:20.000 Well, to answer these questions, we need to recognize that we are witnessing the political establishment and their allies in the legacy media at work.

00:11:28.000 The reason that DeSantis and Newsom are being propped up is because they are the darlings of the establishment wings of both parties.

00:11:35.000 DeSantis was obviously the choice of the Never Trumpers and Rhinos as their fantasy replacement of Donald Trump.

00:11:41.000 As the designated inheritor of the MAGA movement, which is what they thought DeSantis was going to be, he was instructed by his uniparty handlers to redirect the GOP base back to the inside of the Corral, where they could once again be controlled by the establishment.

00:11:58.000 Remember that the D.C.

00:11:59.000 establishment, the media, and the deep state would like nothing more than to put the genie back inside the bottle when it comes to Trump and the America First movement.

00:12:07.000 They want to regain control over the rhetoric, over the donations, and over the Overton window.

00:12:13.000 Obviously, their plan has been a catastrophic failure so far, as DeSantis' campaign has been an utter disaster from the get-go, in case you haven't noticed.

00:12:22.000 His handlers grossly underestimated the GOP base's loyalty to Donald Trump and their willingness to rally behind him in the face of a political witch hunt and weaponized government.

00:12:31.000 They also overestimated DeSantis' charisma, or lack of, and how much that is needed in order for someone to be a compelling candidate worthy of anybody's vote.

00:12:41.000 As for Gavin Newsom, it is becoming increasingly more obvious that he's being groomed by the DMC to be the emergency replacement for Joe Biden, whether that be tomorrow, maybe it's next week, if Joe Biden falls, hits his head and dies, or maybe it's next year when his approval rating is in the single digits, or possibly even in 2028.

00:13:00.000 The Democrat Party as a whole is completely full of mediocrities.

00:13:06.000 Aside from Biden, who could they possibly poll to run for president?

00:13:09.000 Would they go with Kamala Harris or maybe even Pete Buttigieg?

00:13:13.000 Neither are very compelling candidates.

00:13:15.000 Would they look to the past for somebody like Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama to run?

00:13:19.000 Possibly.

00:13:20.000 That's a theory and many people think so.

00:13:22.000 However, Gavin Newsom is just about the only Democrat elected official in the nation who has an ounce of charisma, high name recognition, an ability to fundraise, and a long political career.

00:13:32.000 He's also the governor of the largest state in the nation by population, California.

00:13:38.000 He has truly been an effective agent for the Democrat Party.

00:13:41.000 And when I say effective, I mean effective at destroying the middle class in California and hollowing that state out into a near dystopia.

00:13:49.000 California is now split between the uber rich and the poor, working class, with a large population of homeless drug addicts and criminal illegal aliens sprinkled into the mix as well. 0.60

00:14:00.000 And let's not forget about the sidewalks in California which are covered with HIV infected needles and human feces.

00:14:07.000 Mmm, talk about California dreamin'.

00:14:11.000 Now, the more you think about it, the more Newsom's candidacy makes sense.

00:14:15.000 Ostensibly, he's the perfect candidate for the Democrats.

00:14:18.000 He's a middle-aged white dad with a large happy family, or so they want you to think, right?

00:14:23.000 As a good-looking man, Gavin Newsom sure has his options when it comes to women. 0.99

00:14:28.000 And as we've all learned, Gavin Newsom has a hard time keeping his penis inside his pants, which is well documented from his numerous affairs and cheating scandals. 0.98

00:14:36.000 But as they say, perception is reality, and Gavin's wife, or his partner, as she likes to call herself, has stuck by her man, despite his known infidelity. 0.99

00:14:47.000 He also is the nephew of former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.

00:14:52.000 So, from the outside, Gavin appears totally inoffensive, which isn't often the case with the left anymore.

00:14:59.000 Compared to the likes of Stacey Abrams, Ilhan Omar, or the thousands of transsexuals, and sometimes even pedophiles, who have now found a home inside the Democratic Party, Newsom appears strikingly normal and clean-cut. 0.99

00:15:12.000 However, beneath the surface, he's among the most progressive leftists in the nation.

00:15:17.000 One who has actively pushed for gun confiscation, late-term abortion, forced vaccinations and mask mandates, open borders and, of course, the trans agenda. 0.91

00:15:27.000 He's also been increasingly vocal when it comes to foreign policy as of late.

00:15:33.000 Just last week, Gavin Newsom, alongside Joe Biden and many of the Democrat Party's largest donors in California, hosted Chinese President-Dictator Xi Jinping in San Francisco, which, of course, was miraculously rinsed clean of all the homeless people, human waste, and heroin needles that normally decorate the city.

00:15:50.000 In fact, Gavin Newsom even admitted to the media that the only reason efforts were finally made to clean up San Francisco is because he wanted things to look nice for the communist dictator of China.

00:16:02.000 China.

00:16:03.000 Again, it is becoming increasingly obvious that Gavin Newsom is flexing his political muscles and testing the waters for a possible run at the White House.

00:16:12.000 This begins to explain the curiousness of the debate tonight.

00:16:15.000 For Newsom, this is a chance to demonstrate his polished debate skills and potentially further humiliate an already nationally embarrassed Ron DeSantis who's currently polling at single digits.

00:16:26.000 It's a win-win situation for Gavin Newsom.

00:16:30.000 Hilariously enough, DeSantis has evidently been hoping to use tonight's debate as an automated external defibrillator.

00:16:38.000 That's a mouth load.

00:16:40.000 Or otherwise known as an AED to jumpstart his flatlined campaign.

00:16:45.000 In fact, he's been squabbling with Newsom and Fox News all week over the inclusion of a live audience.

00:16:51.000 DeSantis clearly wants to create a cheer situation or a please clap, right, if you remember Jeb Bush, by stuffing the audience with his supporters who will obviously be hostile towards Gavin Newsom.

00:17:03.000 Apparently, DeSantis believes the optics of a single cheering crowd will be enough to rescue his nearly submerged campaign.

00:17:11.000 Unfortunately, though, for Ron DeSantis, it appears that the same establishment handlers who coaxed him to run for president in the first place are now jumping ship.

00:17:19.000 Their new candidate of choice and their new shiny object is Nikki Haley, the darling warmongering bureaucrat of the Deep State.

00:17:26.000 As everyone who watches this show should know, Haley is easily the worst candidate to toss their name into the ring during this presidential GOP primary season. 1.00

00:17:35.000 Aside from Ron DeSanctimonious, of course.

00:17:39.000 Haley is an America-less politician through and through, beholden to the United Nations and defense contractors like Boeing.

00:17:46.000 For the record, Nikki Haley was once given a cushy seat on the board of Boeing, which is a common practice to keep politicians in the corporation's pockets.

00:17:57.000 You see, Nikki Haley is the perfect embodiment of everything that has been wrong with the Republican Party for the last few decades.

00:18:02.000 And that is precisely why the establishment and the donor class have flocked to her in recent weeks.

00:18:08.000 Just a few days ago, the Koch Network, one of the largest GOP neocon donor groups, otherwise known as the Koch Brothers, right?

00:18:15.000 They announced that they would be funding and endorsing Nikki Haley as opposed to Ron DeSantis going forward.

00:18:23.000 And as I exclusively reported this week in a report that was shared by President Trump on his True Social account, even former Hillary Clinton donors and wealthy Democrats like JPMorgan Chair Jamie Dimon have begun to rally behind Nikki Haley's campaign in a last-ditch effort to stop Donald Trump.

00:18:40.000 So, as we watch tonight's debate, we will witness a failed candidate in Ron DeSantis, and we will see him continue to lose support.

00:18:49.000 And tonight we will also see a communist governor, Gavin Newsom, be further positioned as a potential replacement for Joe Biden.

00:18:58.000 Essentially what this debate is tonight is a glimpse into the political machine of the political DC elitist uniparty establishment that is frantically and actively seeking an answer to stop Donald Trump and replace Sleepy Joe.

00:19:12.000 Unfortunately for the Uniparty, they still haven't figured out that there is no stopping Donald Trump, and there is no stopping the MAGA movement.

00:19:21.000 There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Lummer.

00:19:30.000 If America's men acted like Laura Lummer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes. 0.55

00:19:36.000 Chained herself to Twitter?

00:19:37.000 Is she chained? 0.86

00:20:01.000 We're good.

00:20:28.000 So thank you to everybody who's tuning in tonight.

00:20:30.000 Welcome to episode 13 of Loomer Unleashed.

00:20:33.000 I'm Laura Loomer, of course, and tonight's gonna be so much fun, okay?

00:20:36.000 We're having a debate watch party, and, you know, some of you were asking me, and you were tweeting, and you were like, you know, what the hell is this debate even for?

00:20:45.000 Is Ron DeSantis really serious?

00:20:47.000 I mean, this guy is running.

00:20:49.000 He's pulling it 8% nationally right now. 1.00

00:20:51.000 Okay, Donald Trump is kicking his ass. 1.00

00:20:53.000 Obviously, we all know that. 1.00

00:20:54.000 So why is he debating Gavin Newsom?

00:20:56.000 Everybody thinks that this debate is going to be absolutely ridiculous and people have just been wondering why does Gavin Newsom... Why is Gavin Newsom debating Ron DeSantis?

00:21:05.000 Even Gavin Newsom said...

00:21:06.000 I don't know.

00:21:21.000 I don't know.

00:21:45.000 Debate is going to inject life into his flatlined campaign, okay?

00:21:49.000 I'm calling this debate Ron DeSantis's Fantasy AED because his campaign is dead and he's really honestly hoping tonight that it's going to be able to spark his campaign back up, but I don't really think that's going to be the case.

00:22:05.000 It's really funny because the debate goes live at nine o'clock and we have the stream pulled up, so we're going to be able to watch it here on the Luma Unleashed Jumbo TV screen.

00:22:16.000 And you'll be able to hear it and I'll be providing my live commentary tonight.

00:22:19.000 We're also going to be playing a little game.

00:22:22.000 I wanted to show you some of the little goodies that I have after we show this statement.

00:22:27.000 So take a look.

00:22:28.000 Take a look at this statement.

00:22:31.000 Take a look at this statement that President Trump's campaign just put out right before this debate tonight.

00:22:37.000 It says, kiss of death, alright?

00:22:40.000 Kiss of death, Ron DeSantis is thirsty AF, okay?

00:22:44.000 And for those of you who don't know what AF is, 1.00

00:22:48.000 AF is as fuck, right? 0.99

00:22:51.000 So, sorry for the language, but that's what it means. 0.98

00:22:53.000 Let's get it back on full screen for everybody.

00:22:56.000 See if we can get it up on the TV here, too.

00:22:59.000 But you can see Kiss of Death for Ron DeSantis, who is thirsty AF.

00:23:04.000 It's a really funny statement released by Stephen Chung, who of course is

00:23:10.000 Oh, the communications director for President Trump.

00:23:12.000 It says, Ron DeSanctimonious is acting more like a thirsty third-rate OnlyFans wannabe model than an actual presidential candidate.

00:23:19.000 Okay?

00:23:21.000 Instead of actually campaigning and trying to turn around his dismal poll numbers, DeSanctus is now desperate for attention. 0.96

00:23:29.000 He's so desperate for attention that he's debating a grade-A loser like Gavin Newsom. 0.89

00:23:33.000 So, you know, it's... 0.97

00:23:37.000 Really funny.

00:23:38.000 I think this is probably the first time that we've ever seen OnlyFans get mentioned in a presidential debate.

00:23:45.000 At the debate, Ron will flail his arms and bobble his head wildly.

00:23:49.000 Right?

00:23:51.000 We all know he's a bobblehead. 0.78

00:23:52.000 Looking more like a San Francisco crackhead than a governor of Florida.

00:23:57.000 This isn't a prediction, it's a spoiler.

00:23:59.000 Yes, that is true. 1.00

00:24:00.000 We were going to have a crackhead governor in the form of Andrew Gillum, who of course was the closeted gay black homosexual who was caught having sex with a gay porn star performer in a hotel room in Miami Beach, cheating on his wife with gay men. 0.99

00:24:15.000 You know, speaking of Tallahassee and speaking of just all these politicians from Tallahassee, 0.99

00:24:22.000 I'm honestly convinced that there's like some secret underground sex cult in Tallahassee or within the Florida Republican Party because I'm sure some of you guys saw the story today about Christian Ziegler, the chairman of the Florida GOP.

00:24:38.000 You know, I guess he and his wife are being investigated right now.

00:24:41.000 And, you know, there's an investigation into what they're calling sexual battery, something along the lines of him and his wife having a threesome with some woman who then said that they were secretly recording her.

00:24:52.000 I don't know.

00:24:53.000 Look, this was what came out today in the news.

00:24:55.000 But it is kind of interesting, right?

00:24:57.000 So we apparently dodged a crackhead governor only to get somebody like Ron DeSantis, who has the mannerisms and the facial expressions

00:25:08.000 And just kind of the twitches and the social anxiety of somebody who would be an actual crack addict.

00:25:15.000 I don't really know how much better we are off here in the so-called free state of Florida.

00:25:22.000 Here's this story before we get started tonight.

00:25:25.000 There's just so much that happened today, but I don't know, there's just not enough time to go through everything.

00:25:30.000 I was telling the producer earlier, I was like, oh my god, there's so much that happened today between Nikki Haley and the debate and the chairman of the Florida GOP and all these sex scandals.

00:25:40.000 It's just... 0.86

00:25:42.000 Too many sex scandals and not enough hours in the day to cover all these degenerate politicians, you guys.

00:25:47.000 So, Florida GOP chair, husband of Moms4Liberty co-founder, that's Bridget Ziegler, of course, who was appointed to oversee the, well, she was put on the board by Ron DeSantis for the Reedy Creek board in Disney.

00:25:59.000 I remember when Ron DeSantis said, oh, I'm going to take over the board and I'm going to put all these people on, yada, yada, yada, yada, so.

00:26:04.000 I'm a parental rights advocate. 0.92

00:26:06.000 Get the trannies and the homos out of the schools. 1.00

00:26:09.000 We can't have them talking about butt plugs. 1.00

00:26:13.000 We can't have... We can't have them talking about having thropples. 0.99

00:26:19.000 Bisexual thropples, you guys. 1.00

00:26:21.000 This is so sexually degenerate. 0.99

00:26:24.000 But I'm going to appoint somebody who apparently is in a secret bisexual thropple arrangement. 1.00

00:26:30.000 I mean, honestly, this is like the stuff I exposed last week with Cord Bird, the Florida Secretary of State, okay?

00:26:37.000 And I wish I was making this up, you guys, but I'm not.

00:26:39.000 And this is why people don't take the Republicans seriously when they try to talk about the sexualization of children.

00:26:44.000 Obviously, we all agree that it's wrong to sexualize kids, but when you have representatives who are appointed by Ron DeSantis and they're serving on the Board of Education, like Esther Bird, the wife of the Secretary of State of Florida, Cord Bird, who apparently was divorced and

00:27:01.000 She tried to sue her ex-husband to avoid paying child support, and in these documents from her divorce records, which I pulled up, it said that she had extramarital affairs, okay?

00:27:10.000 She lets at least ten men go inside of her, okay? 1.00

00:27:14.000 Ten men! 0.99

00:27:16.000 Put their penises inside of her while she was married to this husband and I don't know if they were having like fertility issues and then she just decided to be spiteful because you know her first husband couldn't get her pregnant and so she just decided to go like emasculate him by getting 1.00

00:27:31.000 You know, 10 guys to ejaculate inside of her. 1.00

00:27:34.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:27:34.000 It's very graphic, right? 0.99

00:27:36.000 But this is literally in her divorce record, and this is the lady who Ron DeSantis appointed to oversee one of the positions on the board of the Florida Department of Education.

00:27:45.000 She sued her ex-husband so that she didn't have to pay him child support, even though he was willing, right?

00:27:50.000 Like, most guys... Some guys will, like, get a girl knocked up, and then they'll say, oh, it's not mine, right?

00:27:55.000 And then you have to take them to court, and they take a paternity test, and then they're paying you child support.

00:28:00.000 This guy apparently wanted to raise the kid, even though she told him, oh, I don't want to pay you child support because I slept with 10 guys when we were married and the kid might not even be yours. 0.99

00:28:11.000 That should be a disqualifying factor.

00:28:12.000 I mean, you don't want somebody that trashy being around children or being on the board of, uh, the board of education in Florida, but she's a member of Moms4Liberty. 1.00

00:28:22.000 I'm not a fan of Moms4Liberty, okay? 0.76

00:28:24.000 Shoutout to Moms4America that actually endorsed Donald Trump this week.

00:28:27.000 Moms4Liberty is a bit of a grifter organization as far as I'm concerned, okay? 1.00

00:28:31.000 They like to pretend like they're actually doing something to fight for parental rights and to help kids, but, you know, lookit, they have Bridget Ziegler, they have Cord Bird's wife Esther Bird, they're tied to Casey DeSantis.

00:28:44.000 It's just a grassroots operation to help Ron DeSantis get elected.

00:28:47.000 I'm really not a fan.

00:28:49.000 So anyway, his wife who's involved in this apparently, like, the allegations, you can scroll up in the article.

00:28:58.000 Republican Party of Florida Chairman Christian Ziegler is under investigation for the alleged rape of a woman that he and his wife had a menage a trois with.

00:29:05.000 So, I don't know.

00:29:06.000 I don't know if Christian Ziegler's wife is like a closet bisexual and, you know, they're just hiding it from the public and then they're entertaining her bisexual tendencies with 0.96

00:29:16.000 With some woman that they both decided to have sex with and then allegedly filmed, right? 0.97

00:29:22.000 The woman who has accused them of sexual battery has said that she believes that she was being secretly recorded while she was having sex with Christian Ziegler and his wife.

00:29:31.000 So, hey guys! 0.99

00:29:33.000 We can't talk about butt plugs! 1.00

00:29:35.000 We can't talk about the trannies and the homosexuals in the Florida public school system! 1.00

00:29:40.000 But my wife and I are going to allegedly have bisexual threesomes and, you know, 0.99

00:29:46.000 Don't ask us about it.

00:29:47.000 Ron DeSantis is going to have swingers and appoint swingers for the positions of the Sheriff of Broward County, as we saw with Gregory Toney.

00:29:54.000 And no, I'm not being facetious.

00:29:56.000 I'm not being hyperbolic.

00:29:58.000 This is all real.

00:29:59.000 You saw the swingers for DeSantis story that I broke several months ago with the Walters, who, you know, were on video for Christmas in July, dressed in Secret Santa outfits, talking about how they want to 1.00

00:30:12.000 You know, suck a bunch of penis, right? 1.00

00:30:14.000 Like, give a bunch of oral sex. 1.00

00:30:16.000 And I'm not trying to sound super graphic tonight on the show, but these are the people who are overseeing the Florida, Florida GOP, right? 1.00

00:30:24.000 Like, it's a bunch of debauchery and corruption.

00:30:26.000 And I showed you the other day on the last episode when we talked about the dead body that was found inside Ron DeSantis' office, right?

00:30:32.000 The chief election crime officer, Peter Antonacci, who many people feel now was murdered inside Ron DeSantis' office.

00:30:41.000 You see, this is all real, guys.

00:30:42.000 I'm not making this up.

00:30:43.000 And I'm gonna be releasing another investigative report into Gregory Toney, who is, of course, the sheriff of Broward County, who was appointed by Ron DeSantis.

00:30:51.000 Scroll up.

00:30:52.000 These are the wild photos of Florida Sheriff Gregory Toney.

00:30:55.000 This came out, like, two years ago, okay?

00:30:56.000 This is not new news, but Ron DeSantis appointed this guy, okay?

00:31:00.000 After Parkland, and he's refused to remove him, so... 0.95

00:31:03.000 Why is it that there's so many dead bodies, hookers, swingers, sex scandals, and accusations of money laundering that surround the Florida GOP? 0.83

00:31:14.000 And the answer is, under Ron DeSantis, the Florida GOP has been plagued with corruption. 0.99

00:31:19.000 It's disgusting. 0.99

00:31:20.000 It's a cesspool. 0.98

00:31:21.000 And if Ron DeSantis is going to get on this debate stage tonight and say that the Florida blueprint or the Florida model is how he wants to run America, which is why he's running to be the president of the United States of America, I am here to say, hell no! 0.94

00:31:37.000 I don't want to have that type of sexual debauchery and that type of immorality in the White House. 1.00

00:31:44.000 We don't need that.

00:31:45.000 We don't need that in the White House, okay?

00:31:47.000 We're not gonna save America by putting the corrupt blueprint of the Florida GOP into the White House.

00:31:53.000 So you're gonna see him huffing and puffing tonight, and he's gonna say, 0.77

00:31:57.000 Oh, Florida is where woke goes to die.

00:31:59.000 Does this look like where woke goes to die to you? 0.99

00:32:01.000 When the governor is appointing swingers, okay, and inviting hookers and escorts to sit with him and be his special guest at his donor retreats, okay? 0.99

00:32:11.000 I don't think so! 0.99

00:32:13.000 That's not the definition of where woke goes to die.

00:32:13.000 I don't think so.

00:32:16.000 You don't just get to criticize the left and call people out for sexual debauchery and, you know, talk about the trannies and the homosexuals and talk about how we need to stop sexualizing kids and then participate in the same behavior. 1.00

00:32:30.000 Scroll down. 0.98

00:32:30.000 This is one of DeSantis' appointees. 0.98

00:32:32.000 Look at this photo.

00:32:32.000 Look at this.

00:32:33.000 Tits out. 1.00

00:32:33.000 Look at it. 1.00

00:32:34.000 Ass out. 1.00

00:32:35.000 Penis out. 1.00

00:32:35.000 Look at this. 1.00

00:32:37.000 That's Gregory Tony.

00:32:38.000 That's who was appointed by Ron DeSantis.

00:32:40.000 Scroll up.

00:32:41.000 Let's see those titty pics, right?

00:32:43.000 Look at that!

00:32:44.000 Those are his photos.

00:32:46.000 And Ron DeSantis has not removed this guy.

00:32:52.000 It's not a conspiracy theory, you guys.

00:32:54.000 This is real.

00:32:57.000 I'm sorry, I know that this is a family show, so if you're watching with your kids and you're seeing this at home, your kids need to know about this too, because they need to know how corrupt and phony these politicians are.

00:33:07.000 And you need to be aware that the people that are saying that they're here to fight the predators in our schools, that they're here to fight the predators in the Democrat Party, are behaving in ways that are predatorial themselves.

00:33:20.000 And so I just think it's hypocrisy.

00:33:21.000 Here's the video right here, okay?

00:33:23.000 Here's the video of the secret sexy Santa.

00:33:25.000 Scroll up.

00:33:26.000 Let people see it.

00:33:27.000 This was, uh, scroll up so people can... Exclusive video.

00:33:30.000 This was posted back in July, I believe.

00:33:32.000 I posted this when I was in Spain.

00:33:34.000 Yeah, I wasn't even in Florida.

00:33:35.000 See, I nuke around DeSantis' even when I'm overseas.

00:33:38.000 Right?

00:33:38.000 When I was visiting my good friend, Tommy Robinson.

00:33:41.000 I have exclusively obtained this video of top DeSantis bundler, Brooke Waltzer.

00:33:45.000 It appears that Brooke worked for, or works for, Vixen's Cabaret.

00:33:48.000 A South Florida strip club that she and her husband Rich Walter appear to frequent according to photos I've obtained.

00:33:53.000 Okay?

00:33:55.000 In this photo, or in this promo video for Vixen's Cabaret, Brooke, seen on the far left, and the other women in the video are dressed as sexy Santas. 0.84

00:34:03.000 Ooh! 0.96

00:34:03.000 For Vixen's Christmas in July promotion. 0.96

00:34:06.000 They're dancing to All I Want, you know, the All I Want for Christmas song.

00:34:09.000 It's actually a good song.

00:34:10.000 I like it.

00:34:10.000 I'll be honest, I'm Jewish, but I do like Christmas music.

00:34:13.000 I enjoy Mariah Carey, All I Want for Christmas is You, okay?

00:34:17.000 It is a cute little song, I will admit.

00:34:19.000 You know, it's like, I think it's a Christmas classic.

00:34:22.000 I like it.

00:34:22.000 I know some people don't like Mariah Carey, but I think she has a nice voice, and I like that song.

00:34:29.000 So, 0.96

00:34:30.000 It says they're dancing to All I Want for Christmas, which then transitions to the words, Your Dick, right? 0.98

00:34:36.000 So, imagine, all I want for Christmas is, and then, it's very raunchy.

00:34:42.000 We're gonna play the video so that you can see it, but this is who Ron DeSantis and his wife, Casey Jill, or Jill Casey, that's her real name, had with them when Ron DeSantis launched his campaign.

00:34:54.000 When they first kicked off the campaign, this is who was sitting next to him,

00:34:58.000 And we have the photos, and she's been photographed with Chip Roy as well.

00:35:02.000 Why am I showing you this, right?

00:35:03.000 You could scroll down.

00:35:04.000 Because I tagged all these people, right?

00:35:07.000 Like Bob Vander Plaats, Glenn Beck, Steve Dees, Kim Reynolds.

00:35:10.000 This was back in July when I tagged all these people.

00:35:12.000 You know, in Iowa, Bob Vander Plaats just endorsed Ron DeSantis, and they're talking about how, oh, he's the Christian candidate.

00:35:18.000 He's the one that has family values.

00:35:21.000 Does this look like family values to you?

00:35:22.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:35:22.000 Does this look like family values when you have a bunch of hookers that are talking about how they want to, you know, entice a bunch of men to come into the strip club so they can give them some blowjobs? 1.00

00:35:32.000 Does it look like Christian family values to you when you have a swinger being appointed to oversee the Broward County Sheriff's Office in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting? 0.99

00:35:42.000 Remember that?

00:35:43.000 I don't think so.

00:35:44.000 It's graphic, and I know it sounds really vulgar, but you need to hear the vulgarity because you need to understand what a phony Ron DeSantis is when he gets on that debate stage tonight with Gavin Newsom.

00:35:55.000 I do not like Gavin Newsom.

00:35:57.000 I am not in support of his communist policies.

00:35:59.000 I will never vote for a Democrat.

00:36:01.000 I have been a registered Republican my entire life, and I look forward to burning my Republican voter registration card after I get to vote for Donald Trump because I don't like the Republican Party.

00:36:11.000 I equally do not like the Democrat Party.

00:36:14.000 So I'm not, I know the DeSantis people, their IQs are so low that they were saying, oh, Laura Loomer is cheering for Ron DeSantis to lose to Gavin Newsom.

00:36:24.000 She's defending Gavin Newsom.

00:36:26.000 No.

00:36:27.000 I am looking forward to people seeing what we're up against in the Republican Party and why Ron DeSantis is an amateur, okay?

00:36:34.000 Gavin Newsom is a seasoned politician.

00:36:36.000 This is Nancy Pelosi's nephew.

00:36:38.000 This is the governor of the largest state in the nation, okay, and he has been able

00:36:43.000 We're good. 0.99

00:37:02.000 Having affairs with prostitutes, allegedly, right? 0.95

00:37:05.000 As the reporting in San Francisco has shown us over the last few years. 0.98

00:37:09.000 He has openly cheated on his wife, who he sent out to have sex with Harvey Weinstein to get campaign donations when he was running for governor.

00:37:17.000 This is all real.

00:37:18.000 I'm not making this up.

00:37:19.000 You can look this up yourself and see it, okay?

00:37:22.000 When she testified in the Harvey Weinstein trial and said that he raped her,

00:37:28.000 She was one of the only people that the jury didn't believe because after he apparently raped her, Harvey Weinstein, she went back for seconds and thirds because she was getting campaign donations for her husband. 0.92

00:37:40.000 That's pretty gross, right?

00:37:42.000 Gavin Newsom has been able to avoid being unseated through all of these scandals, and he is able to withstand controversy and pivot, okay?

00:37:54.000 And deflect.

00:37:55.000 He's also a numbers guy, and you're gonna see tonight why this debate is taking place, because it's not about Ron DeSantis

00:38:03.000 No, this is the Democrats' opportunity to start talking about, you know, Gavin Newsom is so well-spoken.

00:38:11.000 He's so much younger and lively than Joe Biden.

00:38:15.000 Wow, he's really so eloquent.

00:38:18.000 It's a really refreshing thing to see, aside from the gaffe machine known as Joe Biden.

00:38:22.000 You may have noticed the Democrats and the Republicans on MSNBC, CNN, NBC, whatever, take your pick, right?

00:38:28.000 They're all singing the same tune right now.

00:38:31.000 Wow, looks like President Trump is beating Joe Biden in all key swing states.

00:38:35.000 Wow, Joe Biden is a gaffe machine.

00:38:37.000 I just saw Chris Cuomo the other day actually on a Patrick Bette Davis show talking about this same thing, how Joe Biden is a gaffe machine.

00:38:45.000 You have Elon Musk yesterday saying that he wasn't going to vote for Joe Biden.

00:38:48.000 You have Tucker Carlson who just came out on the Roseanne Barr Show and said he's voting for Donald Trump.

00:38:53.000 The writing is on the wall and the momentum is heading towards a

00:38:57.000 We're good to go.

00:39:21.000 Unlikable.

00:39:22.000 They know that Joe Biden is unpopular. 1.00

00:39:24.000 They know that he is old, senile, and quite frankly, even Democrats are getting sick of his crap. 0.99

00:39:31.000 You even have members of BLM, right, which has notoriously been anti-Trump. 0.98

00:39:36.000 Now all of a sudden we can get that article pulled up.

00:39:38.000 There was a BLM member that came out and said that they're done with the Democrat Party because they think they're racist. 0.86

00:39:43.000 Okay, you have black Americans who are now supporting Trump over the Democrats because they're so pissed off that black people now 1.00

00:39:52.000 In cities who are on government assistance, not all of them, but some of them are, are being shafted for illegal aliens in major metropolitan cities, right? 0.93

00:40:01.000 And so now they're turning on the Democrat Party because the blacks in this country are like, wait a second. 0.99

00:40:06.000 And I'm not saying all blacks are on government assistance before someone like Media Matters clips this and says, oh, Laura Loomer says all blacks are on government assistance and welfare.

00:40:15.000 No.

00:40:16.000 A lot of blacks in this country have voted Democrat, right, because they think that the Democrats have convinced them that somehow they're the party that's fighting racism, when in reality the Democrats are the racists. 0.99

00:40:28.000 And you see now BLM leader endorses Trump for 2024, accuses Dems of racist policies were not stupid. 0.99

00:40:34.000 So scroll down. 0.99

00:40:36.000 Mark Fisher told Lawrence Jones the Democrat Party is not for the black community.

00:40:41.000 I think we have the clip here to pulled up of gap of Tucker Carlson on Roseanne show saying why he's going to be supporting.

00:40:49.000 I think we could get that pulled up.

00:40:53.000 We should have that clip.

00:40:54.000 Yep, right there.

00:40:56.000 We'll get that pulled up in a second so you can see it.

00:40:58.000 Let's play the clip of Tucker Carlson telling Roseanne Barr believe today why he's voting for Trump.

00:41:05.000 And so I'm voting for Trump and if they convict him, I will send him the max donations and I will lead protests.

00:41:12.000 That's how I feel.

00:41:17.000 Look, everybody's voting for Trump, even Fox News, which has been notoriously anti-Trump, okay?

00:41:22.000 They sent Lawrence Jones, speaking of Lawrence Jones, right?

00:41:25.000 They sent Lawrence Jones to Georgia.

00:41:27.000 They sent Lawrence Jones to Georgia ahead of the debate today, and the debate is about to start in about 10 minutes, and so we're going to go.

00:41:34.000 We have the live feed of Fox pulled up, and so we'll do some, a little bit of pre-debate as well, so that we can listen into the feed and see what people are saying, but

00:41:44.000 This is a clip of Lawrence Jones today in Georgia, in a diner, asking people ahead of the debate with Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis who they're going to vote for.

00:41:53.000 I mean, Ron DeSantis is totally delusional, but it's just, it's so funny because we know that Rupert Murdoch told Ron DeSantis originally that he was going to back him 100%, so it just is such a middle finger F you to Rupert Murdoch.

00:42:05.000 Who's just disgusting, right?

00:42:06.000 And we already know that he gave Ron DeSantis the book deal through HarperCollins Publishing, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who of course owns News Corp, New York Post, Wall Street Journal, and Fox News.

00:42:17.000 So, just take a listen to this.

00:42:20.000 This is just so funny to me because you have these reporters go in and they just, they're so brainwashed. 0.99

00:42:25.000 They really honestly believe the bullshit that they're saying to people. 0.98

00:42:28.000 They really honestly think that people like Ron DeSantis. 0.99

00:42:32.000 And they cannot understand why people are not giving up on Trump, okay?

00:42:38.000 So, take a listen to this clip because I just, I laughed my ass off when I watched this today because how many times is Fox News going to embarrass themselves? 0.83

00:42:48.000 I don't know who has a bigger humiliation fetish or has a bigger desire to carry out these humiliation rituals.

00:42:54.000 Is it Ron DeSantis or Rupert Murdoch?

00:42:56.000 Play the clip.

00:42:56.000 Who do you think is gonna win this election?

00:42:58.000 Trump.

00:42:59.000 What about you, sir?

00:43:00.000 Trump.

00:43:01.000 And what about you, sir?

00:43:02.000 Donald Trump.

00:43:03.000 Ditto.

00:43:04.000 Ditto?

00:43:05.000 What about you?

00:43:06.000 Same.

00:43:06.000 You think Donald Trump's gonna win?

00:43:08.000 I think so, too.

00:43:08.000 Yes, sir.

00:43:09.000 So, of course, we're in Georgia, and it's pretty much Trump country, so I'm not surprised that you got a lot of folks that feel like Donald Trump is gonna win.

00:43:19.000 So... I mean, nobody said DeSantis.

00:43:24.000 Nobody wants DeSantis, okay?

00:43:28.000 Nobody.

00:43:33.000 It's just so embarrassing.

00:43:41.000 Anyway, let's get the debate bingo up on the screen because I want everybody to see this.

00:43:50.000 So a couple months ago when President Trump

00:43:55.000 When President Trump said he wasn't going to attend the debate, okay, his campaign came out with Rhonda St. 0.99

00:44:02.000 Demonia's debate night bingo.

00:44:04.000 And so we're gonna play this tonight anyway because I think it's still applicable and relevant, especially to this.

00:44:10.000 But also, too, we got some goodies tonight, alright?

00:44:14.000 We got the snack pack

00:44:17.000 Chocolate super size 60% more because Donald Trump is currently 60 points ahead of Ron DeSantis so we decided to go with the 60% more super pack size and we're gonna eat some chocolate pudding tonight because I'm sure you know that Ron DeSantis is

00:44:33.000 One of his little nervous tics is he eats chocolate pudding with his hands when he gets nervous, and one of the first attack ads that President Trump's PAC put out, and we have that here tonight, we'll play it for you, was an ad called Pudding Fingers, a really great ad.

00:44:45.000 And so, we have some games we're playing tonight, and I need to look at the rules because I typed them out, so I want to make sure that I actually follow the rules of this debate.

00:44:58.000 Get the bingo up on the full screen so people can see that again.

00:45:03.000 And this is what we're going to do.

00:45:06.000 All right?

00:45:07.000 We had an Italian restaurant cater some meatballs, and we had Italian, so I ate veal piccata before coming on, right?

00:45:15.000 I ate my dinner, veal piccata, but then I also had them bring meatballs for the studio, because this is our debate watch party, and we all know we call a meatball Ron, right?

00:45:24.000 We call a meatball Ron for a reason, so...

00:45:28.000 Every single time that Ron DeSantis bobbles his head, because we know that he's got, like, this nervous tick, right?

00:45:33.000 Where he, like, bobbles his head like a bobblehead, and he's very bizarre.

00:45:36.000 I'm gonna take a bite of chocolate pudding.

00:45:39.000 And you're gonna have to watch to see if I use my fingers, or if I use a spoon, or maybe I'll just, like, you know, mouth dive it.

00:45:46.000 I'll be a trooper tonight.

00:45:46.000 I don't know.

00:45:48.000 Every single time that Ron DeSantis says, Free State of Florida, I'm going to take a bite of a meatball.

00:45:55.000 And I got my meatballs here.

00:45:58.000 Got my fork and my spoon.

00:46:01.000 My chocolate pudding.

00:46:08.000 This looks really good.

00:46:09.000 I'm excited.

00:46:11.000 And here's my meatballs.

00:46:14.000 These are some giant meatballs, you guys.

00:46:16.000 Look at this.

00:46:18.000 Check the size of these meatballs out.

00:46:20.000 That is a big meatball.

00:46:23.000 But listen, I'm going to wait.

00:46:24.000 I really want to eat it right now because it looks delicious.

00:46:26.000 But I have to follow these rules.

00:46:28.000 So if you want to order Italian and follow along, or you want to go out and get some Conagra snack pack chocolate puddings, right?

00:46:36.000 Get the super size, fun size.

00:46:38.000 We're having fun with Ron DeSantis tonight, right?

00:46:41.000 I'm a fun-sized kind of girl.

00:46:43.000 I wanted to get the fun-sized, super-sized snack pack.

00:46:45.000 That's what we're doing tonight.

00:46:50.000 So, we know that he's going to talk about, oh, revival versus decline, right?

00:46:54.000 We have Ron DeSantis' poster, I know, from how he was promoting this debate tonight on his own Twitter account.

00:47:01.000 He's like, oh, revival versus decline.

00:47:03.000 Like, he really honestly thinks that Florida is so much better than California, which it's really not, because as I've been exposing, we have a homeowner insurance crisis, we have all types of crises.

00:47:13.000 I'm sure that we can find the tweet of Rhonda Santa saying revival versus decline and pull it up on the screen here somewhere.

00:47:18.000 But those are the rules for tonight.

00:47:21.000 So I'm going to play along.

00:47:23.000 We've got some little cards to some little coins to to put on my little bingo card.

00:47:29.000 And you can order some meatballs if you want and get some chocolate pudding.

00:47:36.000 And that's what we're going to do.

00:47:37.000 So in the meantime, did we find that?

00:47:39.000 Did we find that tweet?

00:47:40.000 We can pull that up so you all can see his.

00:47:46.000 His tweet.

00:47:47.000 All right.

00:47:49.000 Here we go.

00:47:50.000 Here we go.

00:47:53.000 Decline is a choice and success is attainable.

00:47:55.000 As president, I... Oh, get that back up.

00:47:58.000 I will lead America's revival.

00:48:00.000 I look forward to the opportunity to debate Gavin Newsom over our very different visions for the future of our country, right?

00:48:06.000 And you can show that he has an ad there as well that he put together.

00:48:10.000 So, we'll see.

00:48:12.000 I don't know.

00:48:13.000 I live in Florida.

00:48:14.000 Things aren't that great, right?

00:48:15.000 We have record high inflation here as well.

00:48:17.000 The highest homeowner insurance rates in the nation.

00:48:18.000 It's not that great.

00:48:24.000 So, let's pull up the Fox News.

00:48:27.000 Actually, let's look at the chat really quick before we go live, because I wanna see what people think.

00:48:32.000 Do you guys, oh, we're live right now, so please be sure that you share this link.

00:48:36.000 We gotta share it, we gotta get this live right now.

00:48:39.000 Let me repost it again.

00:48:40.000 Do me a favor, go on your X account and post it live so that we can get it all posted.

00:48:45.000 And I'm gonna post it right now with you guys while I'm here right now.

00:48:52.000 We have about six minutes.

00:49:00.000 Let's see.

00:49:02.000 Tweeting this out.

00:49:03.000 You guys are all gonna get the X notifications.

00:49:06.000 If you're not already following me on X, by the way, be sure that you're following me and repost the live link for this.

00:49:13.000 Press 1 in the chat if you like the chocolate pudding.

00:49:18.000 And the meatballs tonight, or if you like this game, or if you're going to be playing along.

00:49:22.000 If you go online and you type in Ronda St.

00:49:25.000 Demonia's Debate Night Bingo, you can find the Trump Debate Night Bingo game, too, and you can play along at home with your family.

00:49:31.000 So, we're going to open these pudding cups now, because I have a feeling I'm going to be eating a lot of pudding.

00:49:36.000 Actually, you know, I think that Ron DeSantis is going to bobble his head and talk about the free state of Florida so much, I had them get me extra pudding cups.

00:49:44.000 I said, you guys!

00:49:45.000 I might have to, I don't know if they have like Narcan for pudding overdoses, but we might need to get some because look at all this pudding, you guys.

00:49:53.000 Snack packs here, snack packs everywhere.

00:49:56.000 Put this up right here tonight so you guys can see it.

00:50:01.000 We got chocolate.

00:50:02.000 Let's see, what other flavors did you guys get me?

00:50:05.000 We got vanilla as well.

00:50:09.000 I've got some vanilla pudding.

00:50:11.000 But Ron likes chocolate, right?

00:50:13.000 So we're gonna go with the chocolate.

00:50:14.000 But in case I eat all the chocolate tonight, let's see what else we got.

00:50:19.000 Vanilla.

00:50:21.000 And then I think there's also another flavor as well.

00:50:26.000 I think they got me caramel.

00:50:28.000 Let's see.

00:50:30.000 Pretty sure I do have caramel as well.

00:50:32.000 Oh no, it's butterscotch!

00:50:32.000 Yes, I do.

00:50:34.000 It's butterscotch.

00:50:36.000 So we have butterscotch, vanilla, and chocolate pudding, you guys.

00:50:39.000 This is amazing.

00:50:41.000 All the pudding in the world here, you guys.

00:50:42.000 I love my snack packs.

00:50:46.000 I like chocolate, so I'm probably gonna go with the chocolate, but I just wanted you all to see how dedicated we are here.

00:50:53.000 Okay, love the pudding cups and snack packs.

00:50:55.000 Love the bingo game.

00:50:57.000 Scroll up.

00:50:57.000 Let's see what people are saying.

00:50:59.000 Cue the Prima song.

00:51:00.000 Oh, let's see.

00:51:01.000 He's a bobblehead. 0.66

00:51:02.000 Laura, you absolutely rock.

00:51:04.000 You guys, be sure that you post the live link as well.

00:51:07.000 And also, be sure that you click Get Loomer'd at the bottom of my Rumble channel.

00:51:12.000 You have to download the Rumble app and follow me.

00:51:14.000 We're going to be tuning in any moment now.

00:51:18.000 Let's get the live feed up.

00:51:19.000 Let's see.

00:51:19.000 The feed is being interrupted.

00:51:21.000 Do a shot of tequila every time he does it.

00:51:23.000 I don't drink, you guys.

00:51:24.000 I actually don't drink.

00:51:26.000 A lot of people don't know this about me, but I don't drink alcohol.

00:51:29.000 So this is a sober version of, and we're putting this out right now because some people are saying, where's the link?

00:51:38.000 We'll get that posted everywhere.

00:51:40.000 So whether you're on my Xtruth or Getter, because I know that not all of you are on Twitter, you can see it.

00:51:45.000 So let's put the feed on now and

00:51:50.000 I need a spoon.

00:51:51.000 You guys, I need a separate spoon for my pudding, too.

00:51:53.000 Well, I guess I have my fork, so I just have one spoon.

00:51:56.000 It's okay.

00:51:58.000 I might die live on air tonight, you guys, if I have to eat all this pudding.

00:52:05.000 I don't know if I can eat this much, so... Let's get ready, because this is about to start any moment now.

00:52:11.000 Let's put this live feed up and all of you can hear it.

00:52:14.000 DeSantis and Newsom ready to square off.

00:52:18.000 See what they're gonna say.

00:52:25.000 It's on Fox News if you guys want to follow along.

00:52:28.000 It's going to start any moment now, but it's going to start any moment, but if you want to watch live and you don't want to watch it on the screen, but you want to listen to my commentary, you can put it on on Fox News or watch the live Fox News stream, but you're probably better off just watching it here.

00:52:44.000 You have all of these sort of barriers breaking down.

00:52:47.000 We're going to start listening in because it's officially starting in two minutes.

00:52:50.000 Take a look at what's going on.

00:52:51.000 Tonight is just live reaction and coverage, you guys.

00:52:53.000 And I'll be following along on the chat on my phone here so that if you guys have questions, you can ask me.

00:52:58.000 So for those of you who are asking, this is in Georgia and Sean Hannity is going to be moderating.

00:53:25.000 Alrighty.

00:53:26.000 So I think this is going to be a very interesting night for him.

00:53:28.000 Newsom, you know, their goal for both of them, two governors actually have a lot in common in a lot of ways and a lot different in terms of their philosophy about government, small government, big government.

00:53:39.000 But it's going to be very interesting to see them duke it out.

00:53:41.000 And I think they're going to have people looking at it saying, why don't I have a choice between these two?

00:53:45.000 Why don't we have more options?

00:53:46.000 So it's going to be a big night and we're going to watch them duke it out coming up soon.

00:53:51.000 Well can't, if you're DeSantis, just say your state's a mess?

00:53:54.000 Everyone's leaving, there's homeless everywhere, you had to clean it up for the Chinese. 1.00

00:53:58.000 Can't you just point to his state and say, what are you doing?

00:54:01.000 See, this is the thing, now they're saying, oh, can't you just point to Gavin Newsom's state?

00:54:05.000 I already said that tonight in my monologue, as you know.

00:54:07.000 I said that in the monologue.

00:54:09.000 But the reality is, you guys, is that you're going to see that, yeah, Gavin Newsom has charisma.

00:54:17.000 Unlike Ron DeSantis, and so he's going to be able to get away with it.

00:54:20.000 I've been preaching to Democrats tonight saying, you have other options out there, I'm waiting in the wings, watch what I can do.

00:54:25.000 Well, like I said, he can't be too good, or else there's going to be a civil war.

00:54:29.000 Martha, thank you so much.

00:54:32.000 Sean Hannity is next.

00:54:34.000 Thank you for doing this, Sean.

00:54:40.000 Alright guys, we're starting.

00:54:48.000 Here we go.

00:54:52.000 The debate we've all been waiting for.

00:54:54.000 So just keep that in mind when you're watching tonight.

00:55:08.000 It's a live feed, so it's lagging a bit, but when you're watching this, don't think of, oh, why would anybody want to watch this debate?

00:55:14.000 It's so irrelevant. 1.00

00:55:15.000 It's so stupid. 0.99

00:55:15.000 No, pay attention, because Gavin Newsom is likely going to be the Democrat Party nominee, you guys, so we'll get my little bingo coins here, too, and follow along. 0.99

00:55:40.000 I don't know why the feed is freezing, but we will get it back on here shortly.

00:55:46.000 It's on Fox's end?

00:55:47.000 Okay, so this is not on our end, we're told.

00:55:50.000 This, my producer is now telling me, is lagging on Fox's end, so their own stream is lagging, so we will see how they're gonna fix this.

00:56:02.000 In the meantime, while we're waiting, we'll get that statement from Trump back up, too, because we didn't even get to read the full statement.

00:56:16.000 So after he called him an OnlyFans model, he then said, hopefully for Ron, it's a seated debate, so he won't have to mash his foot into his high heels to look taller.

00:56:25.000 But if not, he'll definitely be on a 12-inch stepstool so he can peek right above the podium.

00:56:31.000 In a damning new report exposing Ron for his Chinese ties, he provided tax relief to a federally investigated subsidiary of a Chinese company, according to Florida state government records, despite claiming in the past that his administration had not supported the business.

00:56:45.000 Lying Ron or Red Ron, either way, he's a shill for China and a CCP sympathizer who will go to great lengths to protect them. 0.83

00:56:52.000 A new poll from The Messenger and Harris X further proved none of DeSantis' endorsements from Ken Reynolds or Bob Vander Plaats did anything to help his numbers.

00:57:00.000 Ron actually dropped to single digits along with Nikki Birdbrain-Haley while President Trump increased his commanding lead to 68%.

00:57:07.000 I think we now have the feedback.

00:57:09.000 Let's get that back up on screen. 0.76

00:57:09.000 There's 2021 and 2022. 0.76

00:57:11.000 These particular numbers are stark in the state that you lead.

00:57:15.000 In the case of you, Governor Newsom, according to the U.S.

00:57:17.000 Census, this is where the numbers come from.

00:57:19.000 In 2021-2022, California's lost 750,000 residents to other states.

00:57:26.000 Governor DeSantis, during that same two-year period, you gained 454,000 residents.

00:57:32.000 From other states.

00:57:34.000 So, Governor DeSantis, we had a coin toss.

00:57:37.000 I was not part of it.

00:57:38.000 I missed it.

00:57:39.000 But apparently, Governor Newsom, you won the coin toss.

00:57:43.000 And you chose to let Governor DeSantis have the first question.

00:57:46.000 You will get the last word tonight.

00:57:48.000 So I begin with you.

00:57:49.000 You know, for Governor Newsom, I will ask, you know, what your response is on this as well.

00:57:56.000 What are you... it's a simple question.

00:57:58.000 How do you explain this phenomenon?

00:58:00.000 Governor, what's going on?

00:58:02.000 When I was in the Navy, I got orders to go to Naval Amphibious Base Coronado in Southern California.

00:58:07.000 And I was a lifeline Floridian, but I went there and I was like, man, this is one of the most beautiful places on Earth.

00:58:12.000 And I think California has more natural advantages than any state in the country.

00:58:16.000 You almost have to try to mess California up.

00:58:20.000 Yeah, that's what Gavin Newsom has done since he's been governor.

00:58:23.000 He's the first governor to ever lose population.

00:58:25.000 They actually, at one point, ran out of U-Hauls in the state of California because so many people were leaving.

00:58:32.000 Of course he's imposed restrictions on the young people while he's emptying himself from those restrictions and going to the French Laundry while his people were suffering.

00:58:41.000 He led the country in school closures, locking kids out of school while he had his own kids in private school

00:58:48.000 In person.

00:58:49.000 Now, he's very good at spinning these these tales.

00:58:52.000 He's good at being slick and slippery.

00:58:54.000 He'll tell a blizzard of lies to be able to try to mask the failures.

00:58:58.000 But the reality is they have failed because of his leftist ideology.

00:59:03.000 And the choice for America is this.

00:59:05.000 What Biden and Harris and Newsom want to do is take the California model and do that nationally.

00:59:11.000 In Florida, we showed that conservative principles work.

00:59:13.000 This country must choose freedom over failure.

00:59:18.000 Governor Newsom, your reaction?

00:59:19.000 Well, it's good to be with you, Sean.

00:59:21.000 It's nice also to see you in a tie as well tonight.

00:59:24.000 Good to be with you, Ron.

00:59:26.000 I dressed up for the occasion, Governor.

00:59:28.000 No, I'm impressed, and I'm grateful.

00:59:30.000 Look, it's an important occasion.

00:59:31.000 This is an important conversation, and I think it's important to the folks watching.

00:59:35.000 They're probably wondering, what are we actually doing here?

00:59:38.000 And I want to answer that very directly.

00:59:40.000 I'll tell you why I'm here.

00:59:42.000 I'm here to tell the truth about the Biden-Harris record and also compare and contrast

00:59:47.000 Ron DeSantis' record and the Republican Party's record as a point of contrast that's as different as daylight and darkness.

00:59:55.000 You want to bring us back to a pre-1960s world.

00:59:59.000 America in reverse.

01:00:01.000 You want to roll back hard-earned national rights, on voting rights, on civil rights, on LGBTQ rights, on women's rights. 0.63

01:00:08.000 Not just access to abortion, but also access to contraception.

01:00:13.000 You want to weaponize grievance.

01:00:14.000 You are focusing on false separateness.

01:00:18.000 You in particular, Ron, are on a banning binge, a cultural purge, intimidating and humiliating people you disagree with.

01:00:26.000 You and President Trump are really trying to light democracy on fire.

01:00:31.000 So, Sean, there are profound differences tonight, and I look forward to engaging them, but there's one thing, in closing,

01:00:38.000 That we have in common is neither of us will be the nominee for our party in 2024.

01:00:44.000 Governor, great opening statement, but it did not address the issue.

01:00:49.000 Can you explain this migration out of California and going to Red State?

01:00:55.000 You mean the last two years more Floridians going to California than Californians going to Florida?

01:01:03.000 That's going to be fun to fact check, so we'll just start right there.

01:01:05.000 California has no peers.

01:01:08.000 California dominates.

01:01:09.000 Size of 21 state populations combined.

01:01:12.000 It's the fifth largest economy in the world.

01:01:14.000 We dominate.

01:01:15.000 Number one manufacturing state.

01:01:16.000 We dominate in two-way trade and research and development.

01:01:20.000 Access to innovation.

01:01:21.000 More scientists, more researchers, more engineers, more Nobel laureates in the state of California than any other state in the nation.

01:01:27.000 The finest system of higher education.

01:01:30.000 It's the birthplace of life science and biotech and nanotechnology.

01:01:33.000 We dominate in green tech.

01:01:35.000 We dominate in high tech.

01:01:36.000 We dominate in artificial intelligence.

01:01:38.000 So with respect, I think it's an interesting campaign strategy for Ron DeSantis to be bashing a state of 40 million Americans when California simply has no peers.

01:01:49.000 Well, that's a pretty slick way of not answering your question.

01:01:53.000 He went on a binge of putting out a lot of left-wing platitudes.

01:01:56.000 Here's what I would say.

01:01:57.000 I talked to a lot of the people that have moved from California to Florida, and we never used to get people from California to Florida, or really anywhere in the East Coast.

01:02:03.000 Why would you leave California?

01:02:04.000 It's got the best weather, great natural forces.

01:02:07.000 Excuse me, sir.

01:02:08.000 But one of the things that I did, I was talking to a gentleman, a couple... Guys, guys, I'm going to let the debate breathe, but it's his turn.

01:02:16.000 Let's take turns.

01:02:18.000 So I was talking to a fella who had made the move from California to Florida, and he was telling me that Florida is much better governed, safer, better budget, lower taxes, all this stuff.

01:02:28.000 And he's really happy with the quality of life.

01:02:30.000 And then he paused and he said, you know, by the way, I'm Gavin Newsom's father-in-law.

01:02:35.000 So we do count Gavin's in-laws as some of the people that have fled California and come to the state of Florida.

01:02:41.000 And why are we, why are we getting people to come?

01:02:44.000 We have a 50-year low in the crime rate.

01:02:46.000 You don't see, in the last 10 years, we've had a 45% decline in homelessness.

01:02:51.000 California's had a 45% increase in homelessness.

01:02:54.000 Actually, that's not true.

01:02:56.000 There's actually a very large homeless encampment behind Disney World, believe it or not, and there's a lot of homelessness and a lot of crime in the state of Florida.

01:03:05.000 People are having to flee Florida because they can't afford to have a quality of life here because of DeSantis' ridiculous increase in home insurance premiums.

01:03:31.000 Hold on a second.

01:03:32.000 He's said a lot of things that were factually untrue, including that 50-year crime law, which his own law enforcement team said should not be using.

01:03:40.000 You have yet to address the issue, but I asked you twice, you don't want to answer it, but the issue of why the migration out of red states, I'm sorry, out of blue states.

01:03:48.000 We just established more Floridians coming to California in the last two years.

01:03:52.000 Overall, you had a net loss of seven.

01:03:53.000 You didn't establish it, you just asserted it.

01:03:55.000 It's a fact.

01:03:56.000 No, it's not a fact.

01:03:57.000 Moving on, let's go.

01:03:57.000 It is a fact.

01:03:59.000 Your states have vastly different income tax rates.

01:04:03.000 It is what it is.

01:04:03.000 Okay?

01:04:04.000 These are the facts.

01:04:05.000 California's highest rate for top earners, 13%.

01:04:09.000 Married couple, for example, in California, earning a medium income of $84,000, they have a 6% income tax in the state of California.

01:04:18.000 Florida's income tax rate is 0% across all salaries, but it goes beyond income taxes.

01:04:24.000 Property taxes are lower in California, but everything else is higher.

01:04:28.000 Let's take a look at the numbers.

01:04:29.000 These are the facts.

01:04:30.000 The average property tax in California, 0.75%.

01:04:33.000 Florida, 0.91%.

01:04:36.000 Absolutely.

01:04:36.000 Yes.

01:05:06.000 This is a tax question, Governor.

01:05:07.000 This is a very different approach, and I agree with you completely.

01:05:12.000 He has one of the most regressive tax rates in the United States of America.

01:05:15.000 It's the number three most regressive state in America.

01:05:18.000 And what that means is simply this.

01:05:20.000 Who does he tax?

01:05:21.000 He taxes low-income workers more than we tax millionaires and billionaires in the state of California.

01:05:28.000 The question is a simple one.

01:05:29.000 Who, Ron, are you for?

01:05:31.000 It's a factual

01:05:32.000 How many people

01:05:55.000 We're good.

01:06:19.000 He said Floridians.

01:06:20.000 We have to put Floridians on the bingo card. 0.99

01:06:38.000 Well, let's talk about working people.

01:06:40.000 They pay more in your state than the state of California charges for billionaires and millionaires.

01:06:44.000 And it's just a value proposition.

01:06:46.000 It's a fact.

01:06:47.000 Again, you can't make these things up.

01:06:49.000 You have six or seven dollar a gallon gas.

01:06:51.000 How do they afford that?

01:06:52.000 Alright guys, we got a nervous laugh.

01:06:57.000 We have a nervous laugh, it's going on the bingo card.

01:06:59.000 We gotta get the producer to put an X over the nervous laugh here.

01:07:04.000 Time to eat some pudding now, I guess.

01:07:04.000 I got a free space too.

01:07:22.000 I do have a follow-up question.

01:07:24.000 Ron, I'm happy that you continue to talk.

01:07:26.000 Let's talk a little bit about Bidenomics because I'm happy to take that on right now as well.

01:07:30.000 And I think it's a fair point.

01:07:31.000 You're a big supporter of it.

01:07:32.000 I appreciate you acknowledging that.

01:07:34.000 14 million jobs.

01:07:35.000 10 times more than the last three Republican presidents combined.

01:07:38.000 815,000 manufacturing jobs. 3.9%.

01:07:46.000 Guys, take the bingo card off of DeSantis' face.

01:07:51.000 Oh my god.

01:07:52.000 You guys won't believe what I just noticed.

01:07:55.000 They are literally covering Ron DeSantis' high heels from the bottom of the podium with the Fox News logo.

01:08:03.000 If you are watching this live right now, they are actually covering his heels with the logo, you guys. 0.94

01:08:08.000 This is ridiculous.

01:08:09.000 Okay, so we have the nervous laugh. 0.98

01:08:11.000 We had him say Floridians.

01:08:22.000 He's been saved by Fox News.

01:08:24.000 We have to put that all over.

01:08:25.000 I haven't played bingo in a long time.

01:08:30.000 Does that mean I get to put saved by Fox News on every single one?

01:08:33.000 I do, right?

01:08:34.000 Yeah, technically I do.

01:08:35.000 You guys, look at this.

01:08:37.000 It's a snack pack.

01:08:54.000 32 states for working families in the middle class.

01:08:57.000 Significantly lower taxes than places like Texas.

01:09:00.000 You support a 6% income tax on people?

01:09:03.000 I'm against progressive taxes that advantage billionaires and millionaires over working families and the working poor.

01:09:10.000 People in a state pay more taxes on the low end than we tax people on the high end.

01:09:16.000 How does paying $7 a gallon gas help working people?

01:09:20.000 That doesn't help working people at all.

01:09:22.000 How does paying an 8%

01:09:24.000 Alright guys, I think it's time for me to take a bite of the pudding.

01:09:28.000 It's time for us to take a bite of the pudding.

01:09:57.000 And it got to be so expensive, she has to take a lot of the stuff out.

01:10:01.000 That didn't used to be the case.

01:10:02.000 People used to be able to work hard and get ahead.

01:10:05.000 That is not true under Joe Biden.

01:10:07.000 And you know what, Sean?

01:10:08.000 One more final thing.

01:10:09.000 That's so good.

01:10:10.000 California's unemployment rate is 60% higher than Florida's unemployment rate.

01:10:10.000 I love a snack pack.

01:10:15.000 Our unemployment rate is 2.8%.

01:10:18.000 Why?

01:10:20.000 Because it's a command and control economy.

01:10:22.000 They have a political agenda that they're pursuing.

01:10:25.000 Let me ask that question.

01:10:26.000 How many do I have to do?

01:10:28.000 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6?

01:10:28.000 Oh my god.

01:10:28.000 I just took 3 bites, you guys.

01:10:29.000 So many calories.

01:10:30.000 I thought this was state versus state.

01:10:32.000 Ugh.

01:10:32.000 I thought I'm going to throw up right there.

01:10:54.000 Deployment rate in Florida right now is just 2.8 percent, as you stated.

01:11:01.000 And California ranks second worst in the country at 4.8 percent.

01:11:14.000 They regulate too much.

01:11:15.000 They have a political agenda.

01:11:16.000 It's not a good climate for business.

01:11:18.000 They've lost a lot of companies.

01:11:19.000 A lot of companies have moved to Texas.

01:11:21.000 We have had some to Florida, but they've lost a lot of companies to Texas because they're not doing a good job looking out for folks and not creating a good business environment.

01:11:29.000 And, you know, when I have people that come to Florida, they tell me, you know, you guys actually want us to succeed in Florida.

01:11:36.000 And they feel like when they're in California, they don't want business to succeed.

01:11:40.000 We're good to go.

01:12:01.000 You had more kids locked out of school for a longer period of time in California than anywhere else in the country.

01:12:07.000 It was the working class kids. 0.99

01:12:08.000 It was the middle income kids.

01:12:10.000 His kids were in private school.

01:12:12.000 They were in class in person.

01:12:14.000 He locked people out because of the teacher's union.

01:12:17.000 He is owned by the teacher's union.

01:12:19.000 You will never cross the teacher's union.

01:12:21.000 Lock, stock and barrel.

01:12:22.000 Let's talk about COVID.

01:12:23.000 Let's talk about your reckoning on COVID.

01:12:25.000 You passed an emergency declaration before the state of California did.

01:12:29.000 You closed down your beaches, your bars, your restaurants.

01:12:32.000 It's a fact.

01:12:33.000 You had quarantines.

01:12:34.000 Yes they were!

01:12:34.000 Oh my god!

01:12:36.000 I was literally threatened with arrest when I lived in Palm Beach by a cop on an ATV when I went for a walk by myself.

01:12:42.000 You did that.

01:12:43.000 You followed science.

01:12:44.000 You followed Fauci. 0.99

01:12:45.000 Ron DeSantis is such a liar. 0.90

01:12:46.000 You followed science. 0.99

01:12:47.000 You followed Fauci.

01:12:49.000 Why did everyone leave California to come to Florida because we were open?

01:12:52.000 That's true!

01:12:55.000 Yeah, you get him, Gavin!

01:13:01.000 This is the one time in my life that you're going to see me cheer on Gavin Newsom. 0.99

01:13:05.000 Not because I'm for Gavin Newsom, but because it's so great to see Ron DeSantis get called out for his bullshit. 0.98

01:13:20.000 The equivalent, if I had your policies, the equivalent of 10 9-11s. 0.99

01:13:24.000 Tens of thousands of people lost their lives.

01:13:26.000 And for what, Ron?

01:13:27.000 Those are more lies.

01:13:28.000 In fact, the Lancet just did a study.

01:13:31.000 Florida had a lower standardized COVID death rate than California did.

01:13:35.000 That's a Lancet study.

01:13:36.000 One more thing, one more thing.

01:13:38.000 The other thing we had, the other thing California had, California had higher excess mortality than Florida.

01:13:46.000 Let me talk about the excess mortality role.

01:13:48.000 There goes the bobblehead!

01:13:48.000 Oh my god, I've got to eat a meatball!

01:13:49.000 Alright, guys.

01:14:06.000 Let's get back.

01:14:08.000 Let's wait, actually, for this question.

01:14:10.000 This is factually untrue.

01:14:37.000 Okay, and by the way, both your states, with such different approaches, which is pretty fascinating, were both lower, significantly lower, than the national average.

01:14:47.000 These numbers come straight from the CDC.

01:14:49.000 So, Governor Newsom, how do you explain that?

01:14:53.000 Per capita death rates in the state of Florida were 29%, 29% per capita higher.

01:15:01.000 That's not what the stats say right there.

01:15:05.000 Don't lie about it.

01:15:07.000 He put the graphic up there.

01:15:08.000 Don't lie about it.

01:15:10.000 Bingo!

01:15:11.000 I got a bingo, you guys. 0.98

01:15:13.000 We got the bobblehead.

01:15:14.000 Okay, so technically saved by Fox News at the top.

01:15:17.000 It's the bingo straight ahead.

01:15:20.000 That means I gotta eat a meatball?!

01:15:22.000 Oh my god, I'm so full!

01:15:24.000 Alright.

01:15:25.000 It came with this, like, really good cream sauce.

01:15:26.000 Ricotta?

01:15:26.000 Ricotta cheese, but... It's, like, melted now, so... Look at how yummy this meatball looks, you guys.

01:15:32.000 We got our first bingo, and we're only, like, five minutes in.

01:15:35.000 This is gonna be a wild night.

01:15:36.000 Alright.

01:15:49.000 We reopened the state very quickly.

01:15:52.000 We saved thousands of jobs.

01:15:54.000 We saved hundreds of thousands of jobs.

01:15:56.000 Thousands of businesses.

01:15:57.000 We had our kids in school.

01:15:59.000 He had the kids locked out of school because of the teachers union.

01:16:02.000 That is having a generational impact.

01:16:05.000 California has one of the lowest literacy rates in the country.

01:16:08.000 And the most recent NAPE exam.

01:16:10.000 Florida came in number three for fourth grade reading.

01:16:12.000 California was far, far behind.

01:16:14.000 So you should apologize for not getting your kids in school.

01:16:18.000 Why didn't you get the kids in school in the summer of 2020 like we did?

01:16:21.000 The only person.

01:16:22.000 The only person.

01:16:24.000 You didn't do the job you should have done.

01:16:26.000 The only person.

01:16:27.000 Quick, quick. 0.98

01:16:27.000 The only person needs to apologize is Ron DeSantis for the tens of thousands of lives that died unnecessarily because he played 0.98

01:16:37.000 It's meatball time!

01:16:57.000 More to come on this on this debate.

01:17:01.000 I know it's starting off next segment I guess.

01:17:03.000 It's been rather dull as at the start but uh anyway we got a lot to get to coming up uh many important topics that we're going to be talking about including one issue where might you might find some agreement actually as we continue the blue state red state debate we are live we are in Alpharetta Georgia thank you for being with us.

01:17:25.000 All right.

01:17:25.000 We're not going to play Fox News's ads on this show, but we'll mute their feed until the commercial break is over.

01:17:33.000 But in the meantime, this was a phenomenal meatball, you guys.

01:17:38.000 Look, we have to go through this really quick.

01:17:40.000 Let's show them what we got on the bingo card.

01:17:44.000 Full screen bingo card really quick so you can see for yourself.

01:17:47.000 All right.

01:17:47.000 This is the official Trump campaign.

01:17:49.000 Ron, 2024, distinctimonious debate night bingo.

01:17:54.000 Saved by Fox News, okay?

01:17:56.000 Because Sean Hannity came in with a lifeline for his boy Ron DeSantis.

01:18:01.000 It's a bingo like, like this, okay? 1.00

01:18:04.000 So...

01:18:04.000 Like this.

01:18:08.000 Okay, you saw him nervously bobble his head, the free space in the middle, and then the nervous laugh.

01:18:08.000 Bobblehead.

01:18:15.000 We saw the nervous laugh and then saved by Fox News again.

01:18:18.000 So bingo!

01:18:20.000 And you saw the rules is every single time there's a spot on the card, I had to take a bite of the pudding.

01:18:25.000 And as you can see here, we got our snack packs.

01:18:31.000 So I had to take

01:18:34.000 Three, four, five, six, seven bites of pudding tonight.

01:18:37.000 Okay, that's a lot of pudding.

01:18:40.000 Luckily, I have containers of it here.

01:18:42.000 It's gonna be a long night.

01:18:44.000 And then every single time you get a bingo, you gotta eat a meatball. 1.00

01:18:47.000 So we ordered Italian catering tonight, luckily, before the debate started.

01:18:55.000 So I think it's gonna be really great.

01:19:01.000 I hope I don't eat too much, though.

01:19:02.000 It's a lot of food.

01:19:05.000 Anyway.

01:19:08.000 You know, with all this money that I just had to spend on snack packs and meatballs, I don't know how I'm gonna have money left over to pay my taxes, honestly.

01:19:16.000 You know?

01:19:17.000 I don't know.

01:19:19.000 I can understand why people have late taxes, okay?

01:19:24.000 And why some people miss payments on their taxes.

01:19:26.000 Because when you have to buy all these supplies for debate night, bingo,

01:19:31.000 And you have to stack up on pudding because of Ron DeSantis and you have to buy and have meatballs catered?

01:19:39.000 It's a lot of money, okay?

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01:19:59.000 If you're sorting through the complexities of expense tracking, you know, all these meatballs and snack packs cost a lot of money.

01:20:06.000 I'm really hoping that I can get a snack pack sponsorship out of this, too, because, man, I'd be the best sponsor supporter ever.

01:20:14.000 I would be the best promoter ever!

01:20:17.000 All right?

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01:21:46.000 And we are back!

01:21:48.000 With more live debate coverage, your exclusive debate watch coverage on Loomer Unleashed for the debate between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis.

01:21:56.000 Let's listen in.

01:21:58.000 Joe Biden's message to illegal immigrants during his campaign was, let them come. 0.99

01:22:04.000 I'd have the tape, but I said I wouldn't play the tape.

01:22:06.000 And since taking office, Biden said he's gotten control of the border.

01:22:10.000 Vice President Kamala Harris, Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas, Biden's press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre have all said the border is either secure

01:22:24.000 Well, guess what?

01:22:25.000 They have been a record 6.5 million encounters with the illegal immigrants and so-called asylum seekers at the border since President Biden took office.

01:22:33.000 The administration says, well, they don't know how many people actually are in the country illegally.

01:22:38.000 Gentlemen, the American people, I ask you, I believe it's your turn, Governor Newsom, have the American people on the issue of borders, you're defending the Biden administration,

01:22:49.000 They're saying the border's secure.

01:22:51.000 They're saying the border's closed.

01:22:53.000 Those are the numbers from our own border patrol.

01:22:55.000 Are the American people being lied to?

01:22:57.000 I don't think they're being lied to.

01:22:59.000 The Biden administration put out a comprehensive plan day one when he got sworn into office three years ago.

01:23:05.000 And the Republican Party didn't touch it.

01:23:07.000 They haven't moved on it.

01:23:08.000 They play politics with us.

01:23:09.000 We are being lied to, and the Republicans have lied to us as well.

01:23:12.000 Yeah, so much for closing our borders, right?

01:23:15.000 That continued resolution, more money to Ukraine, but nothing for our own borders.

01:23:21.000 When he was in Congress, he supported amnesty.

01:23:24.000 When he's in Congress, you supported John Boehner's bill.

01:23:27.000 It's a fact.

01:23:28.000 When you were in Congress, you supported Obama's efforts to advance

01:23:35.000 Oh God, here's the bobblehead. 0.98

01:23:36.000 Ew, he's licking his mouth again!

01:23:37.000 He does that weird tongue thing, you know?

01:23:38.000 What that tongue do, Ron? 0.93

01:23:39.000 So gross. 0.90

01:23:39.000 They wouldn't even say something like that. 0.90

01:23:41.000 Did it crash?

01:24:05.000 It may have crashed.

01:24:06.000 We're going to get the feed back up right now.

01:24:10.000 We're going to get the live stream back up right now momentarily.

01:24:21.000 Mexico, that has a record of supporting amnesty and supporting reforms under the Obama administration, is the last guy to be standing on stage talking about the issue of immigration reform tonight.

01:24:33.000 Well, I'll tell you what, it's deja vu all over again with that flurry of lies.

01:24:37.000 This is a guy that says the Biden administration is not lying to the public about the border.

01:24:42.000 They go to the White House briefing room every day.

01:24:45.000 They say the border is secure.

01:24:47.000 They are lying to you.

01:24:48.000 We know that that's not true.

01:24:50.000 Gavin Newsom is lying to you when he says somehow I supported these things, which I didn't do.

01:24:55.000 He's also lying to you about what it's going to take to solve this problem.

01:24:59.000 California is a sanctuary state.

01:25:01.000 They thumb their nose at federal immigration law.

01:25:04.000 And this has real consequences.

01:25:06.000 There was an illegal alien, Herbert Nixon Flores, who was in L.A., in custody.

01:25:12.000 He was a repeat criminal.

01:25:13.000 ICE wanted to take him into custody because then they would be able to deport him.

01:25:17.000 L.A.

01:25:18.000 refuses to work with ICE, and so they wouldn't turn him over.

01:25:21.000 They end up releasing him on the street.

01:25:23.000 He ends up murdering the mother of a three-year-old little girl.

01:25:29.000 Those policies are deadly.

01:25:31.000 They do not work.

01:25:32.000 And I'll tell you this, the Martha's Vineyard transport, Martha's Vineyard said it was a sanctuary jurisdiction.

01:25:39.000 It kind of reminds me of Gavin Newsom.

01:25:41.000 When he restricted Californians, then he went to the French Laundry. 0.98

01:25:45.000 These liberal elites, they like to impose burdens on you.

01:25:48.000 They don't want to have to face the consequences of their actions.

01:25:50.000 So we've got a lot of elites who want open borders, who lecture everybody else about it, and the minute they have to deal with any of the consequences, oh man, all hell breaks loose and they get upset.

01:26:00.000 Hold on, we're moving on to the next question.

01:26:03.000 We'd be much better off if that were the case.

01:26:06.000 On the same topic, this is important.

01:26:07.000 This is a very important question.

01:26:09.000 While some migrants I know want to come to America for a better life for themselves and their family, find the American dream, I totally sympathize with them.

01:26:18.000 Many good people fleeing very bad situations abroad.

01:26:22.000 But others are abusing the asylum process and in the process in search of where they're coming from.

01:26:31.000 We're now learning that many are coming from some of our top geopolitical foes.

01:26:35.000 Countries with little to no vetting or people that are coming in.

01:26:38.000 They're not being vetted.

01:26:40.000 Look at these numbers.

01:26:40.000 Between October 2021, October 2023, border agents encountered

01:26:45.000 6,386 nationals from Afghanistan, 3,153 from Egypt, 659 from Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, 538 from Syria, 12,605 from Russia, and a whopping 26,113 from China.

01:27:08.000 Now, my question, the next question goes to you, Governor Newsom.

01:27:12.000 What are the odds that Biden's open borders have allowed terrorists and terror cells unvetted into this country?

01:27:20.000 Is that a clear and present danger to every American?

01:27:23.000 The odds are 100%.

01:27:25.000 Of course our enemies are going to take advantage of this.

01:27:28.000 He opened the border.

01:27:29.000 He's violating his oath of office to take care that the laws are faithfully executed.

01:27:34.000 He's knowingly having 8 million come in.

01:27:36.000 And yes, there's criminal aliens, there are terrorists, there's a lot of fentanyl.

01:27:41.000 We've had tens of thousands of fentanyl deaths.

01:27:43.000 I've met a lot of angel parents who have lost kids to fentanyl overdose and the problem is you'll have a college kid that may take some pill not knowing that there's fentanyl in it and then right there that can be fatal.

01:27:58.000 They're poisoning our people and Joe Biden is sitting on his hands.

01:28:02.000 He refuses to take care of the border.

01:28:05.000 He refuses to hold the drug cartels accountable.

01:28:08.000 This is the vision

01:28:09.000 Of Biden, Harris, Newsom.

01:28:11.000 Open borders.

01:28:13.000 Americans suffer. 1.00

01:28:14.000 And Americans continue to die because of fentanyl overdose.

01:28:17.000 There will be, unfortunately, a terrorist attack at some point that we'll be able to trace back to our southern borders.

01:28:23.000 By the way, do you see that risk, Governor Newsom?

01:28:26.000 Do you see the risk?

01:28:27.000 Joe Biden put out not only a comprehensive plan, he consistently puts up plans.

01:28:31.000 Is there a risk?

01:28:33.000 I'm going to answer your question.

01:28:36.000 I support border security.

01:28:37.000 I think the asylum system is broken.

01:28:39.000 I believe that we need... I understand that.

01:28:41.000 I'm the only guy here that's a border state governor.

01:28:43.000 You're trolling folks and trying to find migrants to play political games to try to get some news and attention so you can out-Trump Trump.

01:28:49.000 And by the way, how's that going for you, Ron?

01:28:52.000 You're down 41 points in your own home state.

01:28:56.000 On the issue of immigration, Joe Biden put a $14 billion immigration package up in front of Congress.

01:29:03.000 That weird face.

01:29:05.000 I hate his face. 0.99

01:29:06.000 You're trying to out-Trump Trump. 0.75

01:29:08.000 How's that working out for you?

01:29:09.000 You're down 41 points in your own state.

01:29:10.000 Oh my god.

01:29:11.000 Okay, Ron shows emotion.

01:29:19.000 From Ron DeSantis.

01:29:20.000 They want to demagogue this issue.

01:29:21.000 You want to play politics with issues.

01:29:23.000 You don't want to solve this issue.

01:29:24.000 Why don't you lean to the heart and support that $14 billion?

01:29:29.000 Hold on.

01:29:29.000 I have a follow-up.

01:29:30.000 Governor Newsom, I appreciate your answer.

01:29:32.000 You have mentioned comprehensive immigration reform many times.

01:29:35.000 It's not happened under Joe Biden.

01:29:37.000 I don't think it's going to happen next year.

01:29:38.000 He put a detailed plan and Republicans in Congress refused to act on it.

01:29:42.000 It takes Congress to work with the administration.

01:29:45.000 With all of these millions and millions of people coming into this country unvetted, the question was and remains, is this a clear and present danger? 0.99

01:29:55.000 From the countries I put up on the screen, is that a clear and present danger to America? 0.93

01:30:01.000 That's why the President of the United States put a $14 billion package in front of Congress they can act on today.

01:30:09.000 They haven't done anything in two years, this Congress.

01:30:11.000 Literally not a single piece of legislation.

01:30:14.000 I support the $14 billion package the President has put forward that includes 2,300 border agents and customs officials.

01:30:20.000 By the way, it also includes $850 million in new technology for border security.

01:30:25.000 You hear nothing from Ron DeSantis.

01:30:27.000 You hear nothing, Sean, respectfully.

01:30:29.000 You hear nothing from the Republican Party.

01:30:32.000 I'm almost out of time.

01:30:35.000 Does it worry you?

01:30:36.000 Let me ask the question another way.

01:30:38.000 Does it worry you that our top geopolitical foes, the number one state sponsor of terror Iran, China, Russia,

01:30:46.000 That's a lie.

01:30:47.000 That's a lie.

01:30:48.000 Such a lie.

01:31:14.000 It's not a lie.

01:31:15.000 Why is he laughing?

01:31:35.000 So if he's willing to lie to you about that, you know he's lying to you about all these other facts and figures about all this other stuff.

01:31:41.000 He's just throwing stuff out to see what sticks against the wall.

01:31:44.000 This is a slick, slippery politician whose state is failing, people are leaving his state, and he's trying to run interference for his failure.

01:31:55.000 We've got to take our second break.

01:31:56.000 We're going to when we come back.

01:31:57.000 All right.

01:31:58.000 Great time.

01:31:59.000 You guys quick break.

01:32:00.000 We have a lot of ground to cover more with governors.

01:32:02.000 Okay, for this break.

01:32:03.000 I think we're going to play the we're going to play the ad as we can fingers out of Georgia.

01:32:11.000 You know, a lot of you probably aren't aware of this ad, but President Trump's pack actually had a really great ad.

01:32:17.000 It was called putting fingers and we're going to play that for you.

01:32:25.000 I think it's hilarious, actually.

01:32:26.000 Like, if you just watch the ad right here, we're going to put that up on the screen.

01:32:29.000 But this was one of the ads that was put out by President Trump's PAC while we're waiting for this commercial break.

01:32:35.000 We're going to play this ad for you so that you can see.

01:32:39.000 There was a story that came out about how Ron DeSantis was eating pudding with his fingers and he didn't use a spoon and instead, like, nervously shoveled pudding into his mouth.

01:32:49.000 So it was so disgusting that

01:32:52.000 You know, people now start calling Ron DeSantis pudding fingers, so we're going to play this for you guys.

01:32:59.000 Put it up on the screen here.

01:33:02.000 Play the full ad soon.

01:33:04.000 You can see it right there.

01:33:08.000 So there's the pudding.

01:33:09.000 He puts it in his fingers.

01:33:10.000 Maybe I should do that, right?

01:33:12.000 What do you guys think?

01:33:12.000 You think I should eat the pudding with my fingers or eat it with a spoon?

01:33:15.000 See, I could eat pudding with my fingers if I wanted to, but I'm not an animalistic distemp, okay?

01:33:20.000 I'm not an animalistic distemp.

01:33:21.000 So, I think we have it ready now.

01:33:23.000 We're gonna play it, right?

01:33:24.000 Here's the ad.

01:33:28.000 Ron DeSantis loves sticking his fingers where they don't belong, and we're not just talking about pudding. 0.96

01:33:43.000 DeSantis has his dirty fingers all over senior entitlements.

01:33:47.000 Like cutting Medicare, slashing Social Security, even raising our retirement age.

01:33:55.000 Tell Ron DeSantis to keep his pudding fingers off our money.

01:33:59.000 Oh, and get this man a spoon. 1.00

01:34:02.000 Make America Great Again, Inc.

01:34:03.000 is responsible for the content of this advertising.

01:34:08.000 Ron DeSantis loves sticking his fingers where they don't belong.

01:34:12.000 And we're not just talking about pudding. 0.96

01:34:15.000 DeSantis has his dirty fingers all over senior entitlements.

01:34:19.000 Like cutting Medicare, slashing Social Security,

01:34:24.000 Even raising our retirement age.

01:34:27.000 Tell Ron DeSantis to keep his pudding fingers off our money.

01:34:31.000 Oh, and get this man a spoon. 1.00

01:34:34.000 Make America Great Again, Inc.

01:34:36.000 is responsible for the content of this advertising.

01:34:41.000 Whoa.

01:34:41.000 The new iPhone 15.

01:35:25.000 Ron DeSantis loves sticking his fingers where they don't belong.

01:35:30.000 And we're not just talking about pudding.

01:35:32.000 YUM! 1.00

01:36:03.000 Pudding.

01:36:04.000 Anyway, real story, guys.

01:36:06.000 It's a real Ron DeSantis story.

01:36:09.000 We're waiting now for this Fox feed to come back on, but I just had to play that ad for you.

01:36:15.000 I personally love it.

01:36:15.000 I think it's great.

01:36:20.000 And obviously, Ron DeSantis is insecure, right?

01:36:23.000 Because every single time he's, like, called out for a lie or whatever, he has these really weird nervous tics where he's, like, licking his mouth, or he does this weird thing where he's, like,

01:36:34.000 Looks like somebody punched him, and he's like, oh, I'm not a liar.

01:36:38.000 I have vaccinations in the state of Florida.

01:36:42.000 Ron DeSantis, again, thank you both for being here.

01:36:44.000 All right, we're back.

01:36:45.000 We are back with the Fox News debate.

01:36:46.000 I don't mind a debate taking on a life of its own, but let each other breathe.

01:36:50.000 Let's go.

01:36:51.000 I don't want to be the hall monitor.

01:36:53.000 Please don't turn me into that.

01:36:54.000 Anyway, let's look at the issue of crime.

01:36:57.000 FBI numbers violent crime nationally for each of your states.

01:37:01.000 Keep in mind this statistic shows what is the combined rate of homicide, rape, robbery, aggravated assault the year 2020.

01:37:09.000 Notice they have his boots covered tonight so you can't see him wearing his heels.

01:37:14.000 380.7 offenses per 100,000 people.

01:37:18.000 In California, meanwhile, the rate was much higher.

01:37:20.000 499.5 offenses per 100,000.

01:37:22.000 In Florida, lower.

01:37:23.000 258.9 offenses per 100,000.

01:37:23.000 Governor Newsom, let me start with you.

01:37:26.000 Your numbers are way higher than the national average.

01:37:35.000 Look at how far they have him away.

01:37:36.000 They're doing this on purpose so that you can't see his high heels and they don't want to put him next to Gavin Newsom so that you can't see how short he is.

01:37:55.000 The issue is- Those numbers were part of the murder rate.

01:37:58.000 Seven of the top ten murder rates in the United States of America are red states. 0.69

01:38:02.000 He has a 66% higher gun death rate than the state of California.

01:38:06.000 He has a higher murder rate.

01:38:08.000 Go to places like Jacksonville.

01:38:10.000 Go to places like Orlando.

01:38:11.000 Go to places like Tampa.

01:38:13.000 The murder rate's off the charts compared to cities like San Francisco.

01:38:17.000 And you know what?

01:38:18.000 Even more egregiously, Sean, and I think this is important, the American people deserve an answer from you.

01:38:23.000 Ron, you had one of the worst mass shootings in American history, Parkland.

01:38:28.000 17 kids were gunned down, lives lost.

01:38:31.000 17 others, lives torn asunder.

01:38:33.000 You had a young girl by the name of Jamie Gutenberg, whose father pleaded with you to do something about it.

01:38:40.000 And you know what you did?

01:38:41.000 You did the exact opposite.

01:38:42.000 You made it easier for felons to get guns without background checks, without any training.

01:38:48.000 These people pleaded with you, the parents and the families, to get tough on gun safety.

01:38:53.000 And again, you made it easier for felons.

01:38:55.000 He said of you, Ron, and I agree with him. 0.98

01:38:58.000 After you signed that concealed carry bill, which increases the likelihood, Fred Guttenberg said, of more Jamies losing their lives and more Parklands, he called you weak, pathetic, and small. 0.96

01:39:10.000 So with respect, I appreciate you're talking to police officers in the state of California. 0.95

01:39:13.000 You may want to spend a little bit more time

01:39:16.000 Not on the Ohio Trail and other places across this country.

01:39:19.000 You may spend a little more time back in your home state and address the murder and gun violence in your own backyard.

01:39:26.000 Or maybe the homeowner insurance rate crisis.

01:39:29.000 I don't know.

01:39:30.000 500 per 100,000.

01:39:32.000 Florida is 250.

01:39:34.000 So that's almost twice as much.

01:39:35.000 And he's trying to spin that to say California's doing good?

01:39:38.000 People are leaving California in droves.

01:39:41.000 Largely because public safety is collapsed.

01:39:45.000 They have, I mean, you go, when Californians come to Florida, one of the things they'll say, it's almost like an out-of-body experience.

01:39:51.000 They can go to the store, get toothpaste off the shelf, pay for it, and leave.

01:39:55.000 Because in a lot of these places in California, everything's under lock and key because they've basically legalized retail theft.

01:40:01.000 They have chosen in California to put the interests of the criminals over public safety.

01:40:07.000 They're easier on sex offenders.

01:40:11.000 They're easier on all these crimes that are leading to a collapse in the quality of life.

01:40:15.000 And if you just walk around San Francisco, you will see, and I think it's interesting, Gavin Newsom was mayor of San Francisco, so he took the San Francisco model

01:40:25.000 Turn that into a template for California's collapse.

01:40:28.000 Now the left wants to take the California model and use that as a template for America's collapse.

01:40:33.000 We cannot let that happen.

01:40:44.000 I told you guys, Gavin Newsom is, he's got this weird charming thing about him.

01:40:49.000 Even though he's a communist, right?

01:40:50.000 And he's a numbers guy.

01:40:51.000 He's a numbers guy.

01:40:52.000 I know you like to jabber.

01:40:55.000 I know you like to lie.

01:40:56.000 I know you like to jabber.

01:40:57.000 I know you like to lie.

01:41:03.000 Your crime is higher.

01:41:04.000 We know your crime is higher.

01:41:06.000 Gentlemen, I'm going to move on.

01:41:11.000 We'll let the audience look at the FBI numbers on the side.

01:41:14.000 According to the Gun Control Advocacy Group, every town for gun safety.

01:41:21.000 California has the most, as you support, I know Governor, restrictive gun laws in the United States.

01:41:28.000 Florida has the 19th most restrictive.

01:41:31.000 Yet, if you look at the year 2019, when each of you took office, California has had 21 mass shootings, Florida has had 9.

01:41:40.000 Now, that is according to a USA Today, AP, Northeastern University database, data.

01:41:50.000 Keep in mind a mass killing is defined as the intentional killing of four or more victims excluding the deaths of unborn children and the offenders by any means within a 24 period of time.

01:42:03.000 I believe Governor DeSantis, you get this first.

01:42:06.000 What California wants to do is they want to make it harder for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, then they go easy on the criminals who are perpetrating the crime.

01:42:15.000 They don't stand up for the men and women of law enforcement.

01:42:18.000 That's why a lot of people have left the state, because they don't get the support from the communities that they need.

01:42:23.000 And, you know, Gavin told another lie.

01:42:25.000 He said we made it easier for felons to do.

01:42:28.000 Felons are not allowed to possess firearms.

01:42:31.000 That's federal law.

01:42:31.000 That's been long-standing.

01:42:33.000 That is an absolute lie that he's saying like that.

01:42:37.000 That has nothing to do with buying or purchasing a weapon.

01:42:39.000 So that's just a lie, another lie that's coming up. 0.96

01:42:42.000 Look, the fact of the matter is, you guys, they're both liars, okay? 0.99

01:42:45.000 Gavin Newsom's a liar and so is Ron DeSantis. 0.80

01:42:48.000 But the point of this debate is to just show you how Ron DeSantis is not ready for primetime and how the Democrats, starting tomorrow, you're going to see, they're going to start talking about Gavin Newsom as their replacement for Joe Biden.

01:43:00.000 When I was in Southern California for the Reagan debate, a lot of the women told me they had to take off all their jewelry just to be able to go shopping because otherwise they're going to get mugged. 1.00

01:43:11.000 That is the reality that people are facing in California.

01:43:20.000 I love this guy talking about backing the blue when you dangled pardons for January 6th.

01:43:25.000 Someone in the chat said it perfectly.

01:43:26.000 It's my lie versus your lie.

01:43:28.000 My lie versus your lie.

01:43:29.000 Absolutely.

01:43:30.000 Charged with attacking law enforcement.

01:43:33.000 You talk a big game about backing the blue.

01:43:35.000 With all due respect to the crime rate, again, he's not answering the fact that he has a higher murder rate than the state of California, a 66% higher gun death rate than the state of California, and I can easily answer this point. 0.56

01:43:46.000 Gun safety saves lives.

01:43:48.000 I don't think it, I know it, and the data bears that out in the state of California.

01:43:52.000 California proudly does lead in terms of common sense gun safety.

01:43:55.000 Common sense gun safety saves lives.

01:43:57.000 You had the chance to do something meaningful, you had a chance to do something on behalf of those Parkland families,

01:44:02.000 You did the exact opposite.

01:44:04.000 You moved in the exact opposite direction.

01:44:06.000 With all due respect, look at your own backyard.

01:44:10.000 The only thing he did for the Parkland families was he appointed a swinger to be the sheriff of Broward County, Gregory Toney. 0.98

01:44:16.000 ...district attorneys like your buddy Gascogne in L.A., one in Tampa, one in Orlando.

01:44:20.000 They were endangering the public, and I removed them from their post.

01:44:24.000 Gavin Newsom has not lifted a finger to rein in Gascogne in L.A.

01:44:28.000 That city has collapsed.

01:44:30.000 That county's collapsed.

01:44:31.000 Don't insult the city.

01:44:32.000 I've never heard that before.

01:44:32.000 Don't insult a great city.

01:44:34.000 You're talking down one of the great American cities, Los Angeles.

01:44:37.000 That's insulting.

01:44:37.000 And you're doing it because you're trying to obfuscate the facts that you have a higher murder rate in the state of Florida than the state of California.

01:44:58.000 He's suave, man.

01:44:59.000 I'll tell you, he's suave.

01:45:15.000 All right, they're going to go for a quick commercial break, so I'm going to take your questions in the chat.

01:45:19.000 So if you have questions right now, put your questions in the chat.

01:45:23.000 We're going to go to Super Chats first, so I'm going to mute the Fox feed there.

01:45:27.000 So let's go to the chat.

01:45:29.000 Please be sure that you are reposting this live link.

01:45:32.000 We are live right now.

01:45:33.000 We have about 5,000 live viewers, which is pretty good, actually.

01:45:36.000 So I think we're actually on the front page of Rumble right now, so that's really good.

01:45:40.000 Shout out to Rumble.

01:45:41.000 And be sure that you're posting this, sharing this, so other people can see it.

01:45:45.000 Are you guys enjoying bingo tonight?

01:45:47.000 If you are, put one in the chat.

01:45:51.000 I already won bingo, and so I've taken, like, nine bites of

01:45:56.000 Chocolate pudding, and I already had to eat a meatball, so... And that's on top of the dinner that I already ate tonight.

01:46:01.000 I ate veal piccata for dinner.

01:46:02.000 So I had... I ordered Italian, and then we had meatballs catered for the studio, right?

01:46:06.000 So... We're all full here.

01:46:09.000 I'm hoping I don't throw up.

01:46:14.000 Someone said, please do not overeat.

01:46:17.000 I know, right?

01:46:18.000 You know, I finally... I finally now fit into a size 2.

01:46:22.000 Sometimes a 0, depending on, like, what I'm...

01:46:25.000 Wearing.

01:46:26.000 And so the other day I was like, oh wow, that's amazing.

01:46:29.000 This is probably like the thinnest I've ever been in my life.

01:46:31.000 And then now I'm like ruining it by eating chocolate pudding.

01:46:34.000 So you know what, Ron DeSantis, if I get fat, it's your fault too.

01:46:38.000 Okay.

01:46:38.000 It is your fault.

01:46:39.000 It is your fault if I can't fit into a size zero jeans.

01:46:43.000 Okay.

01:46:44.000 I am going to blame you, Ron.

01:46:45.000 I'm going to blame you because I was so good at my caloric deficit recently and I have lost so much weight.

01:46:52.000 And I'm gonna blame you if I gain weight from eating this chocolate pudding tonight.

01:47:01.000 Somebody said I had a cup worth of pudding.

01:47:03.000 Yeah.

01:47:07.000 Alright, so what are your questions tonight?

01:47:08.000 Put your questions in the chat.

01:47:09.000 I know we have a couple Super Chats, so let's read those Super Chats right now.

01:47:12.000 Let's see.

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01:47:21.000 Thank you.

01:47:29.000 They said Gavin Newsom is winning this.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, you know what?

01:47:31.000 I honestly think so, too.

01:47:33.000 I think he is.

01:47:34.000 He's a numbers guy. 0.99

01:47:36.000 Look, they're both liars. 0.92

01:47:37.000 People, I'm not supporting Gavin Newsom. 0.96

01:47:39.000 But he's a better politician in the sense that he is a better communicator.

01:47:44.000 He's a better debater.

01:47:46.000 And he's been able to completely deflect his record onto Ron DeSantis effectively tonight.

01:47:51.000 And he's right about Ron DeSantis.

01:47:53.000 But good for Gavin Newsom for calling out Ron DeSantis for lying about closing the beaches.

01:47:57.000 Because he did close the beaches.

01:48:04.000 Someone said, uh, say hello to our future president, Gavin Newsom.

01:48:08.000 That's the plan.

01:48:09.000 They're trying to make him president.

01:48:13.000 All right.

01:48:14.000 What do you think of Swenson joining the Trump campaign?

01:48:19.000 So, Brian Swenson.

01:48:20.000 I like Brian Swenson.

01:48:21.000 I've met Brian Swenson.

01:48:22.000 I think it's a great hire, personally, so I think it's going to be great.

01:48:25.000 I met Brian Swenson when I ran for Congress here in Florida.

01:48:29.000 I ran in 2020 and I ran in 2022, and I've honestly heard nothing but good things about Brian Swenson.

01:48:35.000 So I know that he's an effective political operative and a Trump supporter and I have high hopes for Brian Swenson.

01:48:43.000 I really do.

01:48:46.000 And for those of you who don't know who Brian Swenson was, he's a Florida political operative who went to Ohio to, I guess, work for Vivek Ramaswamy as one of his, you know, chief campaign strategists.

01:48:59.000 And it was just announced yesterday that he's resigning from Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign to go back on the Trump campaign.

01:49:04.000 So I like it.

01:49:09.000 Press one of you think Laura is really putting it down tonight.

01:49:12.000 Oh, yeah, I am.

01:49:18.000 Someone said play the game F. Mary Kill, Gavin Newsom, DeSanctis, and Birdbrain.

01:49:22.000 I don't know.

01:49:24.000 I'm gonna get in Ro- Yeah, in Roblox and Minecraft, you guys.

01:49:28.000 Okay?

01:49:29.000 In Roblox.

01:49:29.000 We don't need to get visited by the Secret Service tonight.

01:49:32.000 I'm already wearing my Ultra Maga shirt.

01:49:34.000 They're gonna call me an Ultra Maga domestic violence extremist.

01:49:38.000 Alright, we're back.

01:49:39.000 We are back.

01:49:43.000 Hi, welcome back to Hannity, the Great Red State, Blue State Debate.

01:49:46.000 We continue with Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida, Governor Gavin Newsom of the state of California.

01:49:51.000 Gentlemen, let's turn to the issue of parental rights.

01:49:54.000 Oh, parental rights, here we go!

01:49:54.000 Now, in March of last year, Governor DeSantis, as you know, you signed the Parental Rights in Education Bill, and let me read from it.

01:50:02.000 It says, classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade three

01:50:12.000 Or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students and according with state standards.

01:50:21.000 Critics have called the bill quote homophobic.

01:50:23.000 This is the one they branded the don't say gay bill.

01:50:26.000 I ask you Governor DeSantis

01:50:29.000 In especially the lower grades, should schools, and maybe all grades, should schools be focusing on reading, writing, math, science, history, computers, and maybe leaving values, considering parents might have different values than teachers at school, to the parents, to religious institutions,

01:50:51.000 Or is it the role of the school?

01:50:52.000 What is the role?

01:50:53.000 The role of the school is to educate kids, not indoctrinate kids.

01:50:57.000 It's not to impose an agenda.

01:50:59.000 It's to do the basics.

01:51:00.000 And what we've said in Florida is it's inappropriate to tell a kindergartner that their gender is a choice.

01:51:06.000 It's inappropriate to tell a second grader that they may have been born in the wrong body.

01:51:09.000 Now, California has that.

01:51:11.000 They want to have that injected into the elementary school.

01:51:14.000 My wife and I have a 7'5 and a 3-year-old.

01:51:17.000 We don't think that that's appropriate, and I know most

01:51:19.000 Parents do not think it's appropriate.

01:51:22.000 It's also important to respect parental rights to know what curriculum is being used in the classroom, and everything should be age-appropriate.

01:51:28.000 I actually have something that I brought that some parents have objected to.

01:51:32.000 So this is a book that's in some of the schools in California.

01:51:34.000 Florida, this is not consistent with our standards, called Genderqueer. 0.58

01:51:38.000 Some of it's blocked out.

01:51:39.000 You would not probably be able to put this on air.

01:51:41.000 This is pornography.

01:51:42.000 It's cartoons. 0.64

01:51:43.000 It's aimed at children.

01:51:45.000 And it's wrong.

01:51:45.000 So this should not be

01:51:47.000 In schools, when people like on the left say that somehow you're banning books by removing this from a young kid's classroom, no, this is not age appropriate.

01:51:57.000 And so we're going to stand for the rights of parents.

01:51:59.000 I think we need to do that nationwide.

01:52:00.000 I don't think you can have a situation where some states just trample on the rights of parents.

01:52:05.000 Parents have a fundamental right to direct the education and upbringing of their kids.

01:52:09.000 By the way, you've been on a banning bench.

01:52:12.000 1,406 books have been banned just last year under Ron DeSantis' leadership.

01:52:17.000 I love that he keeps pulling this out.

01:52:18.000 I've seen this.

01:52:19.000 He's been doing this all over the campaign trail.

01:52:20.000 What's wrong with Toni Morrison's books?

01:52:22.000 It's not banned.

01:52:23.000 What's wrong?

01:52:23.000 It's not true.

01:52:24.000 What's wrong with Amanda Gorman's?

01:52:26.000 It's not banned.

01:52:28.000 And the poetry?

01:52:30.000 Those are false narratives.

01:52:31.000 1,406 books have been banned on your banning binge in the state of Florida.

01:52:36.000 Bingo!

01:52:36.000 As it relates to parental rights.

01:52:37.000 Come on.

01:52:38.000 California, it's in our Constitution.

01:52:40.000 Woo! 0.99

01:52:40.000 Another bingo! 0.99

01:52:41.000 It's called the LCFL process.

01:52:43.000 We actually require parental engagement.

01:52:45.000 Narratives and Ron backs down.

01:52:47.000 And we don't.

01:52:47.000 Complete lie.

01:52:48.000 We don't require K through 3rd grade sexual education.

01:52:52.000 Woo! 0.99

01:52:52.000 That doesn't happen until middle school. 0.99

01:52:55.000 I don't know if I can eat another meatball. 0.78

01:52:57.000 I'm gonna die, you guys. 0.54

01:52:58.000 I can't eat it. 0.95

01:52:59.000 My stomach is too small these days.

01:53:01.000 What am I gonna do?

01:53:01.000 Ron backs down at the very top.

01:53:02.000 Bingo!

01:53:03.000 Yeah!

01:53:03.000 I can't eat it, you guys.

01:53:04.000 It's like...

01:53:18.000 I already ate two of these tonight.

01:53:19.000 I can't eat another one.

01:53:20.000 What am I supposed to do?

01:53:21.000 I made a commitment.

01:53:21.000 You guys.

01:53:22.000 A lot.

01:53:22.000 It's like a small bite of pudding to make up for it.

01:53:24.000 How about that?

01:53:40.000 I have a follow-up question for you though.

01:53:45.000 And by the way, first governor, yes or no, are the book banning issues, is that not a state issue?

01:53:51.000 Is that a state issue or a local issue?

01:53:53.000 Local, and he's lying.

01:53:54.000 The poem book wasn't there.

01:53:56.000 Here's the question I have for you, Governor Newsom.

01:54:01.000 Um, some of the books you're talking about, one is called, the governor just brought it up, it's called Gender Queer, a memoir, explicit pornographic book showing sex acts.

01:54:11.000 This is the book that I made a nationwide television ad for in 2020. 0.90

01:54:16.000 This book is gay, a book containing instructions on the ins and outs of gay sexuality.

01:54:22.000 Let me finish. 0.98

01:54:23.000 Let's talk about it, a book that contains graphic descriptions about how to masturbate for males and females.

01:54:29.000 My question to you, Governor Newsom, those books, do you believe that's appropriate for school districts to teach kids, yes or no?

01:54:36.000 Come on, it's not part of the curriculum.

01:54:38.000 They're not teaching kids that.

01:54:40.000 Those are books that were in school.

01:54:41.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:54:43.000 The bottom line is, you are on a book-banning binge, your state.

01:54:48.000 1,406 books.

01:54:50.000 3,362 in this country.

01:54:52.000 What about those books?

01:54:55.000 We don't provide for K-3rd grade education, that kind of curriculum.

01:55:01.000 These guys make it up.

01:55:01.000 It's just made up.

01:55:03.000 It's part of this cultural purge.

01:55:04.000 Should it be?

01:55:05.000 What grade would it be acceptable?

01:55:08.000 What I find offensive, Sean and Ron, what I find offensive is that a very significant number of these books happen to be LGBTQ books. 1.00

01:55:16.000 A significant number of these books happen to be about African Americans.

01:55:20.000 Do you think it's appropriate in school?

01:55:21.000 We don't teach that.

01:55:25.000 We have sex education in middle schools and high schools where it's appropriate. 1.00

01:55:29.000 This is a ginned up, made up issue to divide this country.

01:55:31.000 You talk about dividing this country?

01:55:33.000 This is part of the culture war, the weaponization of grievance.

01:55:37.000 This is part of using education.

01:55:38.000 We're focusing on math, science.

01:55:40.000 We're focusing on reimagining our schools.

01:55:42.000 We're going to get to education next.

01:55:44.000 He's criminalizing teachers and criminalizing librarians that check out the wrong book.

01:55:47.000 They've used the schools to impose a liberal agenda.

01:55:51.000 Social justice, they have this ethnic studies where they're dividing people. 0.68

01:55:55.000 That's what they're doing.

01:55:55.000 But let me just say something about parents' rights, because he says California respects parents' rights.

01:55:59.000 This is rich.

01:56:00.000 He's been telling a lot of whoppers tonight, this may be the biggest.

01:56:03.000 In California, if you're a parent in Iowa or New Hampshire or South Carolina, your minor child

01:56:10.000 Can go to California without your knowledge or without your consent and get hormone therapy, puberty blockers, and a sex change operation all without you knowing or consenting?

01:56:22.000 How in the heck is that honoring parents' rights when you're bringing people from out of state to go around their parents' backs and getting life-altering surgeries?

01:56:32.000 That is radical!

01:56:33.000 That is extreme!

01:56:34.000 That is an assault on parents' rights!

01:56:37.000 It's not for you to decide.

01:56:37.000 You know what?

01:56:39.000 It's for the parents to decide.

01:56:41.000 And the parents do not want their kids going to these other things.

01:56:45.000 Let me go to a follow-up.

01:56:46.000 Let me stay on a follow-up.

01:56:48.000 Let's turn to the issue of education.

01:56:50.000 The decency of taking, ripping somebody away from their family.

01:56:56.000 Nobody can hear you.

01:56:57.000 That is wrong.

01:56:58.000 Parents should not stand in this country.

01:57:03.000 Let us turn, gentlemen, if I may, to the issue of education.

01:57:08.000 Here is public school spending per K-12 students according to the Education Data Initiative from the U.S.

01:57:15.000 Census Bureau and National Center for Education.

01:57:18.000 Florida spends nearly $12,000 per student, while California spends over $16,000.

01:57:25.000 Florida is ranked number one by U.S.

01:57:28.000 News & World Report.

01:57:30.000 In terms of state education rankings, California ranks 20th.

01:57:34.000 Governor Newsom.

01:57:36.000 What is your explanation?

01:57:37.000 You spend more money and they have better results in Florida.

01:57:41.000 Why?

01:57:41.000 I told you what I'm doing in public education.

01:57:43.000 We created a brand new grade, Pre-K for All.

01:57:45.000 We're doing after school and summer school for all.

01:57:47.000 We're reimagining the school day, not just the school year.

01:57:51.000 We just provided 3.4 million of our students upwards of $2 billion for child savings accounts and the opportunity to start businesses when they graduate.

01:58:01.000 We have one of the best records under COVID, during COVID.

01:58:06.000 And again, you didn't answer to the fact you had more learning loss.

01:58:09.000 Ron DeSantis had more learning loss during COVID.

01:58:12.000 Fourth grade reading, fourth grade math, eighth grade reading, eighth grade math.

01:58:16.000 We outperformed you in every, it's a fact during COVID in every one of those categories.

01:58:21.000 I'm, I'm, I can't wait to get all the political facts tonight because Ron, you keep denying some basic fundamental facts on health,

01:58:28.000 Let's return our focus to education.

01:58:45.000 Well, when we opened the schools, we bucked all of those people June of 2020.

01:58:49.000 He kept the schools closed for a long time, and that had devastating impacts.

01:58:53.000 And why?

01:58:54.000 What Gavin Newsom does in California is kowtow to the teachers union.

01:58:59.000 Whatever they tell him to do, he does.

01:59:02.000 He will never buck the teachers union.

01:59:04.000 That's why the kids were locked out of school for so long.

01:59:06.000 Joe Biden is in the pocket of the teachers union, and so is Kamala Harris.

01:59:10.000 That's why they fought school openings when he came in there.

01:59:14.000 When they had that in there, Biden came into office and he brought in the Teacher's Union to be able to do all these different things to try to keep the schools closed.

01:59:24.000 So the Democratic Party, the far left in this country, they are owned lock, stock and barrel by the Teacher's Union.

01:59:30.000 I beat the Teacher's Union in Florida to get the schools open first in the country during COVID.

01:59:35.000 Also to do universal school choice.

01:59:37.000 Every parent in Florida has a right to send their kid to the school of their choice.

01:59:41.000 We're winning these fights.

01:59:43.000 California is bending the knee to the union because they control the politicians.

01:59:56.000 I'll ask you to please respect the individual's right to answer uninterrupted.

02:00:02.000 And that is Governor DeSantis.

02:00:04.000 I think it's actually your turn, Governor Newsom, if you don't mind.

02:00:08.000 All good.

02:00:09.000 Most medical professionals believe a baby is viable.

02:00:12.000 Outside of a mother's womb by between 24 and 26 weeks.

02:00:16.000 That is the general scientific consensus.

02:00:19.000 There are some variations on it.

02:00:19.000 It changes.

02:00:21.000 Abortion is legal in your state, quote, up to viability, is my understanding, unless the mother's health is in danger.

02:00:29.000 I'd like to get you on the record.

02:00:31.000 You've been unwilling to answer this question.

02:00:34.000 Do you, should there be any restrictions on the issue of abortion that you support at all?

02:00:42.000 Because funding in California, you have allocated in your budget $265 million for abortion last year alone.

02:00:50.000 My question, very specific.

02:00:52.000 Do you support any restrictions at all on abortion, especially among 7, 8, and 9, past viability?

02:01:00.000 I'm going to answer that question, but let's talk about the issue of abortion.

02:01:03.000 Let's talk about the issue of abortion.

02:01:04.000 You're going to answer it?

02:01:05.000 I'm going to answer that question.

02:01:06.000 He doesn't want to answer.

02:01:07.000 But I think this is important and it bears repeating.

02:01:10.000 Ron DeSantis signed the most extreme anti-abortion bills in America.

02:01:15.000 He signed a bill banning many exceptions for rape and incest.

02:01:20.000 And then he said it didn't go far enough and decided to sign a six-week ban.

02:01:26.000 Before women even know they're pregnant, Ron. 0.98

02:01:28.000 Before women can even access a doctor's appointment. 1.00

02:01:32.000 So extreme is your ban that criminalizes women and criminalizes doctors that even Donald Trump said it was too extreme.

02:01:42.000 On the issue of the extreme exception that you highlight as it relates to the issue of later term abortion, it's almost always because of a fetal anomaly, the life of the mother.

02:01:54.000 And in those rare cases, I trust, and to answer your question, I trust the mother and her doctor to make that decision.

02:02:00.000 So in other words, I want to be clear on this.

02:02:03.000 If a woman and her doctor, for any reason... Not for any reason. 0.98

02:02:06.000 I'm asking.

02:02:06.000 No, no, no, no.

02:02:07.000 It's extremely rare.

02:02:08.000 Should there be... This is a conundrum.

02:02:09.000 I know where you guys are going, Sean.

02:02:11.000 You're even uncomfortable with this whole issue.

02:02:13.000 I watch your... This is where you guys have to go.

02:02:13.000 I'm asking.

02:02:15.000 I'm asking.

02:02:16.000 He doesn't want to answer because in California they actually do support 9-month abortion.

02:02:21.000 Would you support a ban on abortion in 7th, 8th, or 9th month if the mother's life is not in jeopardy?

02:02:29.000 Extreme, extreme exception.

02:02:31.000 People aren't going on and having abortions. 1.00

02:02:33.000 Should it be illegal then?

02:02:35.000 If it's rare, should it be illegal?

02:02:37.000 It should be up to the mother and her doctor and her conscience.

02:02:41.000 So the answer is no restriction?

02:02:42.000 I've already answered it.

02:02:43.000 No restriction?

02:02:44.000 I'll just reinforce it.

02:02:45.000 To cover up, again, hold on, for the most extreme abortion ban in the country.

02:02:49.000 I have a simple question though, this is important.

02:02:51.000 No, no, no, no, I'm asking the question.

02:02:53.000 Will you or will you not sign a six week ban in the unlikely case you go to the United States?

02:02:58.000 Let's talk about your state.

02:03:04.000 You had a 15-week rule in California.

02:03:07.000 You reduced it to six.

02:03:09.000 My question is this.

02:03:11.000 What was your thinking behind it?

02:03:13.000 Was it for religious reasons?

02:03:14.000 Was it for scientific reasons?

02:03:18.000 What was the reason for you from going from 15 weeks to six weeks?

02:03:24.000 Well, I believe in a culture of life.

02:03:26.000 I think we're better off when everybody counts, when everybody has an opportunity to do well.

02:03:30.000 And that bill attaches when there's a detectable heartbeat for the child.

02:03:36.000 And some states have done that.

02:03:37.000 Some states have done others.

02:03:39.000 Some states have done later.

02:03:41.000 And obviously they have a right to do that.

02:03:43.000 But I think about one of our Floridians, a lady named Penny Hopper. 1.00

02:03:47.000 She actually survived a late-term abortion back in the day, and they left her on the table there to basically wither away.

02:03:56.000 Her grandmother came, saved her, brought her to a hospital,

02:04:02.000 We're good.

02:04:19.000 He's wrong when he says the later terms are all because of this.

02:04:23.000 88% past 15 weeks are in fact elective from the Florida data.

02:04:27.000 He doesn't keep data there.

02:04:29.000 But that is really extreme to take your tax dollars and to do this all the way up to the moment of birth.

02:04:36.000 He didn't answer your question about any type of protections at all for a baby that has a beating heart, that can feel pain, that is viable.

02:04:44.000 Let me, let me... Hold on.

02:04:46.000 Respectfully, this is an important conversation.

02:04:48.000 Will you or will you not support a national... You didn't answer Sean.

02:04:51.000 Why didn't you answer his question?

02:04:52.000 Will you or will you not support a national ban if it lands on your desk?

02:04:57.000 You couldn't answer that in any other context.

02:04:59.000 Okay, gentlemen, we're moving on to the next issue.

02:05:02.000 No, Sean, not a next issue.

02:05:03.000 The American people should know this.

02:05:03.000 You never gave a week.

02:05:05.000 I'll answer it for Ron DeSantis.

02:05:06.000 He can't answer it.

02:05:07.000 He will sign that extreme six-week ban.

02:05:09.000 Okay, let me move on.

02:05:11.000 The American people should know that.

02:05:12.000 I'm calling this the lightning round.

02:05:13.000 It would be great if you guys cooperated.

02:05:15.000 I'm not a potted plant here.

02:05:17.000 And I want to ask you, we all know that federal policy does have a huge impact on states.

02:05:17.000 I'm good.

02:05:22.000 We know that.

02:05:23.000 I'm going to ask you three simple questions and I just want one word answers, OK?

02:05:28.000 From three of you.

02:05:29.000 Because we're coming up on a break.

02:05:29.000 To our best.

02:05:31.000 And the issue is right now, Joe Biden is president.

02:05:34.000 So I would like both of you to give a grade to Joe Biden overall as president

02:05:41.000 Governor Newsom, I'll give you an A. An A, absolutely.

02:05:43.000 Governor DeSantis failed.

02:05:46.000 A failure, okay.

02:05:47.000 Now, number two, are his policies helping or hurting your individual states?

02:05:52.000 Is it helping the state of Florida?

02:05:54.000 Inflation is hurting our state big time.

02:05:56.000 Great.

02:05:58.000 I have played over and over again, and Governor Newsom, you have seen over and over again.

02:06:24.000 Joe Biden has experienced what I believe to be significant cognitive decline.

02:06:30.000 And in other words, it's the toughest job in the world.

02:06:34.000 Is Joe Biden experiencing this cognitive decline?

02:06:38.000 Is it a danger to the country?

02:06:40.000 Do you find when he speaks, what is your reaction to it?

02:06:44.000 Yes, he's in decline.

02:06:46.000 Yes, it's a danger to the country.

02:06:48.000 He has no business running for president.

02:06:49.000 And, you know, Gavin Newsom agrees with that.

02:06:51.000 He won't say that.

02:06:52.000 That's why he's running his shadow campaign.

02:06:55.000 He should not be running.

02:06:56.000 He is not up to the job.

02:06:58.000 And it is dangerous for this country.

02:07:00.000 Well, I'll take, I will take Joe Biden in.

02:07:32.000 Now, on March 31st, 1968, President Lyndon B. Johnson famously said, I shall not seek and I will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president.

02:07:46.000 Now, despite being an incumbent president who is eligible to run for reelection, Governor Newsom, I've interviewed you twice on this issue.

02:07:53.000 You say you are not running for president in 2024.

02:07:55.000 In fact, you recently said, quote,

02:07:59.000 You think that Vice President Harris is naturally the one lined up to run for president if Joe Biden were to bow out.

02:08:06.000 Governor Newsom, tonight I ask you, will you make an LBJ-like statement?

02:08:12.000 And Governor DeSantis, you say he's running a shadow campaign.

02:08:15.000 In your response, I would like you to answer that.

02:08:18.000 Will you say, unequivocally, under no circumstances, are you running?

02:08:21.000 Correct.

02:08:22.000 I don't know how many times I can say it.

02:08:23.000 He's just making this stuff up about a shadow campaign.

02:08:26.000 If at the DNC convention they come and ask you, will you run, what will you say?

02:08:30.000 Joe Biden will be our nominee in a matter of weeks.

02:08:33.000 And in a matter of weeks, Sean, he'll be endorsing Donald Trump as a nominee for the Republican Party.

02:08:39.000 If they come to you at the DNC and Joe is incapable of running and they ask you, are you a hard no?

02:08:45.000 It's not even optional.

02:08:46.000 He's doing fantastically.

02:08:47.000 I think what he's saying...

02:09:02.000 I think what he's saying should color every single thing.

02:09:05.000 I mean, I've called him on a lot of the lies, but he says Joe Biden is 100% up to the job.

02:09:09.000 You know that that's not true.

02:09:11.000 Anybody that can look, he wants you to believe him over your own lying eyes.

02:09:15.000 When he says the economy is so great, how great is it when you're going to the grocery store now?

02:09:20.000 How great is it when you're trying to afford a home?

02:09:23.000 How are those interest rates doing?

02:09:25.000 What about affording a new car?

02:09:27.000 So we have to get real here.

02:09:28.000 We have to understand that Biden is not up to the job.

02:09:31.000 But here's the here's, I think, the problem.

02:09:33.000 What Biden would do, the people around him, they would look to California for the model to go forward in the next four years.

02:09:41.000 That would accelerate the decline of this country.

02:09:44.000 Freedom is what works.

02:09:46.000 The failures need to be left in the dustbin of history.

02:09:50.000 Tell that freedom to women that you're trying to criminalize in your state. 1.00

02:09:53.000 Alright, we're retreating to all grounds.

02:09:56.000 Spare me this notion of freedom, for it is not a state of freedom.

02:09:59.000 One of the things I want to accomplish here is the policies that you both implement have a great impact on the citizens of your individual states.

02:10:07.000 For years, a gallon of gasoline, Governor Newsom, in California has been notably higher in your state than in the state of Florida.

02:10:15.000 That's right.

02:10:16.000 Here are the numbers, by the way, recent numbers.

02:10:17.000 The average cost for a gallon of gas nationwide, just over $3.24 in Florida, $3.17 in California.

02:10:21.000 It is a whopping

02:10:28.000 $4.85.

02:10:30.000 So, Governor Newsom, I ask you, you've also sued big oil companies, alleging executives have deceived the public about the health of our planet, knowing that it's a polluter.

02:10:42.000 If your lawsuit is successful, that would likely mean higher gas prices, even higher gas prices for everybody.

02:10:47.000 Here's my question, though.

02:10:48.000 Could you name, right now, one source of energy

02:10:53.000 That you can bring online in the next three to six months that would be as inexpensive for the people in this country as fossil fuels.

02:11:02.000 Let me, let me, let me, let me touch.

02:11:04.000 Can you, can you think of that energy?

02:11:05.000 Let me touch on that.

02:11:06.000 I'm going to get to your question and let me touch on the latter part of your question.

02:11:09.000 Let me get to the first part of the question.

02:11:10.000 Okay.

02:11:10.000 You're absolutely right.

02:11:11.000 Since the 1980s, Republican administrations, Democratic administrations have experienced, under their stewardship, have experienced higher gas prices in the state of California.

02:11:21.000 We've been ripped off by big oil.

02:11:23.000 We continue to be ripped off by big oil.

02:11:27.000 We are one of the top streams on Rumble right now, so be sure that you keep on liking and resharing so that we can continue to have more viewers tonight.

02:11:38.000 And yes, we're suing.

02:11:41.000 We're suing the industry responsible for this climate crisis.

02:11:44.000 By the way, the same climate crisis that Ron DeSantis celebrated as human

02:11:51.000 A human cause, who campaigned for a fracking ban, who campaigned to oppose offshore oil drilling, and then two days after he got elected, signed an executive order.

02:12:01.000 By the way, Nikki Haley had you dead to right on this, Ron.

02:12:05.000 Signed an executive order doubling down, saying you're adamantly opposed to fracking, adamantly opposed to offshore oil drilling.

02:12:12.000 You were celebrated by the Sierra Club for that action.

02:12:16.000 Until you weren't. 0.93

02:12:17.000 Once again, it shows the hypocrisy of Ron DeSantis.

02:12:20.000 Now you're running away from climate change as things have gotten worse.

02:12:23.000 Hurricanes, wildfires, droughts, and floods.

02:12:27.000 $179 billion of weather-related disasters.

02:12:32.000 And he has no response except talking points from Big Oil.

02:12:35.000 That was a mouthful.

02:12:38.000 Again, just more lies.

02:12:40.000 But here's the thing.

02:12:41.000 California's the only oil company that's doing that to Georgia or Florida or these other states that have lower gas prices because of their policies.

02:12:48.000 That's why people are paying more there.

02:12:50.000 What Gavin Newsom wants to do, what he's doing in California, what Biden wants to do nationally is government dictated green energy policies.

02:12:59.000 They want to kneecap fossil fuels and reliable energy.

02:13:02.000 We've already seen what's happened in California.

02:13:04.000 They have rolling blackouts.

02:13:06.000 He actually implemented a mandate to buy electric vehicles.

02:13:10.000 So pretty soon in California, you're not going to be able to buy a normal car.

02:13:14.000 Only electric vehicles.

02:13:15.000 And they celebrated that as like a great thing.

02:13:17.000 A couple days later, there was a notice from the state government telling all EV owners, do not plug in your EV because they don't have enough grid capacity.

02:13:26.000 So he is walking his people into a big time disaster.

02:13:29.000 What Biden wants to do is he wants to take the California model.

02:13:33.000 He wants to impose that nationally.

02:13:34.000 He wants to take away your ability to purchase the car that you want.

02:13:38.000 He wants to kneecap reliable energy.

02:13:40.000 And he wants to bring these rolling blackouts all across the United States of America.

02:13:45.000 It doesn't work.

02:13:46.000 It's going to cause huge problems.

02:13:48.000 We have more energy here.

02:13:50.000 We can be the dominant energy producer in the world.

02:13:53.000 And that's what we're going to do.

02:13:55.000 Florida's not a big energy state.

02:13:56.000 We have the Marcellus deal.

02:13:58.000 We have the West Texas

02:13:59.000 We have all of that.

02:14:00.000 So let's do that.

02:14:01.000 No forcing electric vehicles.

02:14:04.000 Save American automobiles.

02:14:17.000 Alright guys, we're going to take a break, so we're going to go back to the chat.

02:14:21.000 I want to take a moment to thank people who sent in super chats tonight.

02:14:25.000 Alright, we have $1 from BlazingGuns357 who said Newsome should have been aborted.

02:14:31.000 Oh boy.

02:14:37.000 Do I disavow or no?

02:14:38.000 Do I disavow or no?

02:14:40.000 I'll just let it be.

02:14:41.000 Threadwatch, $2. 0.99

02:14:42.000 My neutered Visla has bigger balls. 1.00

02:14:45.000 Threadwatch, as he rolls over, what a wimp. 1.00

02:14:50.000 Blazing Gun, $3.57, $5 again. 0.64

02:14:52.000 It's not effing banned because it's not allowed in school.

02:14:56.000 Joe Jolena 2022 $10.

02:14:57.000 I already said that.

02:14:59.000 What do you think of Swenson joining the campaign?

02:15:01.000 Threadwatch $5.

02:15:01.000 Okay, great.

02:15:02.000 4547 Maga 24 and Blazing Guns 3575 dollars again.

02:15:04.000 Murders in California in 2022, 2100 and.

02:15:17.000 Look, Kevin Newsom definitely lied tonight.

02:15:19.000 He lied about the border.

02:15:21.000 He lied about gun violence.

02:15:23.000 He lied about quality of life, but so did Ron DeSantis.

02:15:25.000 I mean, people are fleeing Florida.

02:15:27.000 We could pull up the Newsweek article, too, that recently just came out that shows that Florida seniors are having to flee Florida.

02:15:37.000 If you type in Florida seniors flee Florida, you're going to see that they can't afford to live here anymore, okay? 0.72

02:15:45.000 All these Floridians are leaving.

02:15:49.000 So, now, let's see.

02:15:50.000 If you type in people fleeing Florida because of the homeowner insurance crisis, we'll get the article pulled up right now.

02:15:56.000 But, people are leaving Florida.

02:15:57.000 They may not be going to California, but they are going to other states right now.

02:16:01.000 So, there's a major problem with the homeowner insurance crisis.

02:16:06.000 Someone said, great job, Laura. 0.99

02:16:08.000 I dislike both guys, but great show.

02:16:10.000 Are you guys enjoying this tonight?

02:16:11.000 I hope that we can keep it fun.

02:16:13.000 I hope that you're enjoying this and that it's also informative and educational.

02:16:18.000 See right here, I got the receipts.

02:16:20.000 Florida's retirees are fleeing.

02:16:22.000 Here's where they're settling.

02:16:25.000 And this was posted on November 26.

02:16:27.000 Okay, so just a few days ago, just what?

02:16:30.000 Four days ago, this article came out.

02:16:32.000 Once thought of the ideal place to live out one's golden years, Florida is quickly losing favor with retirees.

02:16:38.000 Remote workers and the wealthy are flocking to the state and driving up home prices, leaving those on a fixed income feeling the pinch.

02:16:46.000 Talking about, you know, the rising homeowner insurance rates.

02:16:49.000 So, Florida doesn't really have a great quality of living either.

02:16:54.000 Let's go to the chat.

02:16:55.000 I want to see what your, you know, what your comments are.

02:16:57.000 Are you enjoying this tonight?

02:17:01.000 Let's see.

02:17:01.000 I like it, Laura.

02:17:03.000 Let's see what else.

02:17:05.000 Thank you, Laura, for streaming this without interrupting all the time like Crowder.

02:17:08.000 Good job.

02:17:09.000 Yeah, you know, I don't want to do a lot of talking during the debate.

02:17:12.000 It's here.

02:17:13.000 You know, we're playing bingo.

02:17:14.000 So you see the bingo card in the bottom of the screen, and I'm going to have to definitely go for a run.

02:17:19.000 Although in preparation for today, I did do a lot of steps.

02:17:22.000 Let's see how many steps I did today.

02:17:24.000 Because I ate pasta for dinner and you know.

02:17:32.000 Italian food is very carb-y.

02:17:34.000 It's very, very carb-y.

02:17:35.000 So you gotta, like, be fit, you know?

02:17:38.000 Alright, I have done 16,403 steps today.

02:17:42.000 That's pretty impressive, you know?

02:17:43.000 That is the equivalent of 7 miles.

02:17:46.000 So I have already walked in preparation for tonight's show because I don't want to be fat.

02:17:51.000 I went for a seven mile walk today in between all my working and pacing and so I wanted to burn off the calories.

02:17:59.000 That's about 592 calories.

02:18:02.000 Let's see how many calories are in one of these little snack packs.

02:18:07.000 One pudding cup has 180 calories and it has 22 grams of sugar and

02:18:17.000 34 grams of carb.

02:18:19.000 So that's a lot.

02:18:20.000 That's a lot of carbs and sugar. 1.00

02:18:22.000 I'm going to probably have to go home and walk another two miles or so before I go to bed if I'm going to burn some of this off and got to flush it out of your system with some water, too, because.

02:18:34.000 I don't know. 0.99

02:18:36.000 I can't be going around chasing Chris Christie, calling him a fat ass and then looking like a fat ass myself. 1.00

02:18:41.000 All right, we're back. 1.00

02:18:46.000 Welcome back to Hannity, the Great Red State Blue State Debate.

02:18:49.000 We continue with Governor Gavin Newsom, Governor Ron DeSantis.

02:18:54.000 According to the Department of Housing and Urban Development, these are the numbers for the homeless population in each of your states.

02:19:02.000 It is a big problem around the country.

02:19:04.000 In the state of California, it is 172,000.

02:19:07.000 In Florida, it is 26,000.

02:19:10.000 Now, the per capita numbers are pretty much the same.

02:19:13.000 For California, it is 44 per 10,000 people, while Florida has 12 per 10,000 people.

02:19:20.000 So, Governor DeSantis, I ask you, why the disparity?

02:19:25.000 What are the policies you are implementing that is different from that of California?

02:19:29.000 California's adopting leftist policies.

02:19:32.000 Gavin Newsom was mayor of San Francisco.

02:19:35.000 He put out a 10-year plan like 20 years ago.

02:19:37.000 He was going to end homelessness.

02:19:39.000 Then a few years later, he had another plan.

02:19:40.000 And now he says he's going to do, and it's only gotten worse.

02:19:43.000 In the last 10 years in California, the homeless has gone up 45%.

02:19:45.000 It's gone down in Florida 45%.

02:19:49.000 But it's caused a huge problem with quality of life in California.

02:19:53.000 The people that flee always bring up this.

02:19:56.000 They've really empowered lawlessness and drug use.

02:19:59.000 And, you know, Gavin Newsom at one point tried to say that California was the freedom state.

02:20:02.000 I just kind of laughed, like, you're locking people down, you're doing all this.

02:20:05.000 But then I thought about, you know, California does have freedom that some people don't, that other states don't.

02:20:11.000 You have the freedom to defecate in public in California.

02:20:14.000 You have the freedom to pitch a tent on Sunset Boulevard.

02:20:16.000 You have the freedom to create a homeless encampment under a freeway and even light it on fire.

02:20:21.000 You have the freedom to have an open-air drug market and use drugs.

02:20:25.000 You have the freedom, if you're an illegal alien, to get all these taxpayer benefits.

02:20:28.000 So those are freedoms.

02:20:30.000 They're not the freedoms our founding fathers envisioned, but they have contributed to the destruction of the quality of life in California, and the results speak for themselves.

02:20:39.000 People are leaving the state because they have failed in addressing the homeless population.

02:20:44.000 Well, I love my legal rant on freedom.

02:20:45.000 I mean, here's a guy who's criminalizing teachers, criminalizing doctors, criminalizing librarians, and criminalizing women that seek their reproductive care.

02:20:53.000 You're making it harder to vote.

02:20:54.000 You're banning books.

02:20:56.000 I mean, spare me this notion of freedom.

02:20:58.000 Ask the folks at Disney about freedom and free enterprise.

02:21:01.000 Ask the folks at the Special Olympics that you threatened to fine with 27

02:21:07.000 Here guys, as you can see on the screen here, Florida's DeSantis issues statewide stay-at-home order to curb coronavirus.

02:21:16.000 So he locked the state down too. 0.99

02:21:17.000 He's a liar. 1.00

02:21:19.000 They're both liars, you guys. 1.00

02:21:20.000 I'm not defending Gavin Newsom, but I'm showing you what a liar Ron DeSantis is. 0.99

02:21:24.000 I'm also on my phone reading your comments as well, following along to see what you're saying.

02:21:54.000 I can handle it.

02:21:55.000 I'm used to that.

02:21:56.000 But you know what? 0.56

02:21:56.000 Your attacks on the trans community, your attacks on the gay and lesbian community, you attack vulnerable communities, you attack women. 0.56

02:22:03.000 Again, Ron, relax.

02:22:07.000 I can handle it.

02:22:08.000 I'm used to bullying. 0.99

02:22:09.000 You're nothing but a bully. 0.92

02:22:10.000 I understand that. 1.00

02:22:10.000 You're a bully. 1.00

02:22:11.000 Intimidating. 1.00

02:22:12.000 No, you're a bully. 1.00

02:22:12.000 You're a bully. 1.00

02:22:13.000 What is this, like, elementary school? 0.99

02:22:16.000 How well is it going for you?

02:22:17.000 Why do you want him not to be able to compete?

02:22:19.000 How well is this campaign going?

02:22:20.000 Why do you not want them to be able to compete?

02:22:22.000 He's not going to let me talk, so I'll talk to the American people.

02:22:25.000 I don't understand why you'd want to discriminate against him.

02:22:28.000 Again, I'll remind you, the blueprint for Florida has put Ron DeSantis 41 points down to Donald Trump as you try to get tough.

02:22:36.000 Let's go back to homelessness.

02:22:41.000 Let's go!

02:22:42.000 I called this out in my monologue, guys.

02:22:45.000 He just said the blueprint for Florida has put you down 41 points behind.

02:22:53.000 He's 41 points down behind Trump, guys.

02:23:23.000 Well, I'm looking at total time, Governor DeSantis, about two minutes.

02:23:27.000 Here we go.

02:23:28.000 Here's the receipts to Ron DeSantis in second place in Iowa, 41 points behind Donald Trump.

02:23:33.000 Well, this is an app where they plot the human feces that are found on the streets of San Francisco.

02:23:40.000 And you see how almost the whole thing is covered because that is what has happened in one of the previous greatest cities this country's ever had.

02:23:48.000 Human feces is now a fact of life, except

02:23:51.000 I think it's almost done too, because they said 90 minutes, so... I'm surprised they haven't talked about Trump more.

02:23:55.000 That's just such nonsense.

02:24:07.000 There are two very important issues we have not hit.

02:24:10.000 After the Hamas terror attacks on October the 7th, we have seen what is nothing short of a disturbing outbreak of virulent hatred, anti-Semitism around the world in the halls of our Congress, on American streets, on college campuses.

02:24:27.000 Last month outside in Sydney Opera House in 0.96

02:24:30.000 In Australia, we've seen it all over Europe, but in Australia, anti-Israeli protesters literally in this day and age chanting, gas the Jews, F the Jews.

02:24:40.000 In American cities, we have protesters calling for global Islamic war and demanding that Israel be wiped off the map, or in the words of Congresswoman Tlaib, from the river to the sea. 0.96

02:24:52.000 Israel, meanwhile, is vowing to eradicate the terrorist group Hamas.

02:24:55.000 But according to a report in the New York Times this week, U.S.

02:24:58.000 officials have warned Israel that they need more to fight more surgically in Gaza.

02:25:05.000 Governor Newsom, 30 seconds for you.

02:25:07.000 We have to cut back on time.

02:25:09.000 How can Israel win the war against this terrorist group using surgical strikes and directions from Hamas? 0.89

02:25:17.000 I visited Israel.

02:25:18.000 I met with families, hostages.

02:25:20.000 I saw videos of children being killed in front of their parents.

02:25:22.000 Parents being killed in front of their children.

02:25:25.000 I saw a beheading with a garden hoe. 1.00

02:25:29.000 This is not complicated to me.

02:25:31.000 This is a fight between good and evil. 0.99

02:25:33.000 Hamas is a terrorist organization and they need to be eliminated. 0.98

02:25:36.000 Not just for the people of Israel and Jews around the world, but for the Palestinians themselves. 0.98

02:25:41.000 But when it comes to the issue of anti-Semitism, you just mentioned a lot of things that have been occurring on Ron DeSantis' watch.

02:25:48.000 The Nazis. 0.71

02:25:49.000 Oh, give me a break. 0.60

02:25:50.000 Did he just say, give me a break?

02:25:52.000 I was harassed by those Nazis, Ron!

02:26:07.000 Then a second Holocaust. 0.99

02:26:08.000 They want to destroy Israel and wipe every single Jew off the map. 0.99

02:26:13.000 Israel has every right to defend itself to the hilt. 0.67

02:26:16.000 Biden should not be kneecapping them in any way, shape, or form.

02:26:18.000 And by the way, Biden stranded a lot of American citizens over there who were trying to get home, so I did an executive order in Florida, and we sent planes over to Israel right in the aftermath of October 7th, and we saved over 700 Americans, mostly Floridians, but not all,

02:26:33.000 All right, let me

02:26:54.000 We don't have a lot of time.

02:26:56.000 I want to turn to the issue, gentlemen, of China.

02:27:01.000 I talk about this often.

02:27:03.000 Intellectual property theft, unfair trade practices.

02:27:07.000 China has been hostile to our fighter jets in international airspace, hostile to our Navy in international waterways.

02:27:15.000 We know all about the China spy balloon that happened eight days right across the United States over military installations.

02:27:21.000 The Communist Chinese, they have nationals buying up thousands of acres of branch land, farmland, and land near military installations. 0.81

02:27:28.000 Their hostility towards Taiwan.

02:27:31.000 They are, Governor DeSantis, our number one geopolitical foe.

02:27:35.000 I don't see that the Biden administration has been tough with them.

02:27:38.000 What would you do differently?

02:27:40.000 Well, first, in Florida, we banned China from buying land in our state, because you're right. 1.00

02:27:43.000 You don't want them buying farmland or land near military bases.

02:27:46.000 So we acted.

02:27:46.000 We also got the Confucius Institutes out of our universities.

02:27:50.000 China should not be involved in our universities at all. 0.99

02:27:53.000 What you need to do is you need to have hard power in the Indo-Pacific to deter China's ambitions.

02:27:59.000 You need to take the economy, and we need to decouple from China. 1.00

02:28:02.000 We're dependent on them for so many things.

02:28:04.000 And then finally, we need to get serious about their influence in this country.

02:28:07.000 They shouldn't be able to buy farmland anywhere.

02:28:09.000 I can tell you this, I would not go to China and grovel in front of Xi like Gavin Newsom did.

02:28:15.000 He says China's a partner on climate change. 0.87

02:28:18.000 China's adding two new coal plants every year.

02:28:21.000 China's laughing at us with what they're doing. 1.00

02:28:25.000 So yes, they're the number one threat we face, and we need to take it seriously, and Joe Biden is not doing that.

02:28:30.000 It's just, this is just a reminder, uh, you know, I think it's a question some people are probably asking.

02:28:35.000 I know Nikki Haley's campaign is asking, when are you going to drop out and at least give Nikki Haley a shot to take down Donald Trump in this nomination? 0.58

02:28:43.000 She laid you out. 1.00

02:28:44.000 You're a walking hypocrite. 1.00

02:28:45.000 You're a walking hypocrite on the issue of China. 1.00

02:28:49.000 This is a guy that was looking for direct foreign trade from China, was doing trade shows. 0.99

02:28:53.000 That's already been debunked.

02:28:55.000 You talk about the liberal

02:28:56.000 Wow!

02:28:56.000 Not on human rights, you didn't.

02:29:13.000 I absolutely did with the Foreign Minister and the Vice President and other leaders in China.

02:29:18.000 You talk a big game.

02:29:19.000 Meanwhile... We're over time.

02:29:21.000 Final question.

02:29:23.000 Governor DeSantis, we owe you about 90 seconds.

02:29:26.000 9-1-1, I want to report a murder!

02:29:28.000 Murder!

02:29:29.000 It's an absolute murder!

02:29:35.000 It's been a very passionate debate tonight.

02:29:37.000 Actually, it's been fun to be a part of.

02:29:38.000 I think the American people will decide.

02:29:42.000 Governing philosophies could not be more different.

02:29:44.000 But let me ask you this, kind of a fun question.

02:29:47.000 You both clearly love your states.

02:29:49.000 You visited each other's state.

02:29:52.000 Governor DeSantis, you can take as much time as you want.

02:29:56.000 You have an extra 90 seconds.

02:29:58.000 What is your favorite thing about the state of California?

02:30:01.000 I'd give him five minutes for this.

02:30:03.000 That's a good question.

02:30:04.000 All right, we'll stay longer.

02:30:06.000 Five minutes, Governor.

02:30:07.000 When I got orders as a Navy Lieutenant to go to Naval Amphibious Base Coronado, I had not spent any real time in California in my life.

02:30:15.000 Florida native, and I'm very proud of the state, but I got down there, and that strand is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been, and then all up and down, just a tremendous coastline.

02:30:25.000 I do believe California has more natural advantages than any state in the country, which is why, when you have so many people leaving on net,

02:30:33.000 That's hard to do.

02:30:35.000 People don't want to leave there because it really is such a beautiful area.

02:30:39.000 And I'm proud of the military installations that are there.

02:30:41.000 I'm proud of what the Navy's been able to do in conjunction with the state.

02:30:46.000 It was really important duty.

02:30:48.000 It really helped forge me as an individual and as an American.

02:30:53.000 And so I'll always have very, very fond memories of that nice strand down there in Southern California.

02:30:58.000 I love that.

02:30:59.000 I don't know what you love about California.

02:31:01.000 You used to call California the coast of dreams.

02:31:03.000 By the way, what do you love about Florida?

02:31:05.000 What I love about your question is the comedy in the question.

02:31:07.000 Meaning, you know what?

02:31:09.000 We all want to be loved.

02:31:10.000 We need to be loved.

02:31:10.000 We all want to be protected, respected, and connected.

02:31:13.000 I think there is a unity from here.

02:31:14.000 Respected, connected.

02:31:18.000 Ron, I have no doubt Ron DeSantis loves this country.

02:31:20.000 I love this country.

02:31:21.000 It's not about red versus blue.

02:31:23.000 It's red, white, and blue.

02:31:25.000 The United States of America.

02:31:26.000 And I think we're all better off and we're all better off.

02:31:28.000 And so I appreciate this conversation.

02:31:30.000 I appreciate you, Ron, being a family man.

02:31:33.000 You've got three incredible kids.

02:31:34.000 I appreciate your wife, your sacrifice, and I appreciate your military service.

02:31:39.000 But I also appreciate we do have fundamental differences about the fate and future of this country.

02:31:43.000 And that's why I'm going to be working so hard

02:31:45.000 To get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris re-elected in 2024?

02:31:48.000 He's charming, you guys.

02:31:49.000 He's got that suave.

02:31:50.000 I mean, I was just thrown off guard by what he said.

02:31:52.000 It's a beautiful thing, what he said.

02:31:54.000 I don't even like Ron, but I'm drawn to this personality of Gavin Newsom.

02:31:58.000 I'm never going to vote for him, but... Joe Biden should show up to a debate.

02:32:03.000 I have another 20 minutes, and I've got a lot of questions.

02:32:06.000 You want to stay?

02:32:07.000 Let's just do an extended hour.

02:32:09.000 I'm happy to do it.

02:32:11.000 This has been fun.

02:32:12.000 I think it's been fun.

02:32:13.000 Are they seriously going to do another extended hour?

02:32:15.000 I'm sorry to the guests that I've invited.

02:32:17.000 I've got to take a break though in the meantime.

02:32:20.000 We've got to pay some bills.

02:32:22.000 Not a cheap set we built for y'all.

02:32:23.000 I hope you like it.

02:32:25.000 Courtesy of your favorite channel, Fox News.

02:32:27.000 And you do admit you watch all things.

02:32:29.000 We'll take a break.

02:32:30.000 They've agreed to stay.

02:32:32.000 Well, that's, I guess, a debate on the fly.

02:32:34.000 We'll continue on the other side and later have live post-debate coverage.

02:32:39.000 Are they really going to do another hour?

02:32:40.000 The great red state-blue state debate as we continue.

02:32:48.000 Wow.

02:32:49.000 Another hour.

02:32:50.000 I wasn't expecting that.

02:32:52.000 They said 90 minutes, and now they're going to do another hour?

02:32:54.000 That's interesting.

02:32:56.000 Wow.

02:32:59.000 Well, let's go back to the chat and take your questions.

02:33:06.000 What do you guys think?

02:33:07.000 Who's winning the debate?

02:33:08.000 Press one if you think that Gavin Newsom is winning the debate.

02:33:11.000 Press two if you think that Ron DeSantis is winning the debate.

02:33:15.000 Somebody said you need more meatballs.

02:33:17.000 Yeah, you guys.

02:33:18.000 I need to get the producer.

02:33:19.000 You guys might need to call in more meatballs because if I have to stay here for another hour, I have one more meatball left.

02:33:26.000 I don't know if it's going to last much longer.

02:33:27.000 You guys.

02:33:28.000 One more meatball.

02:33:29.000 That's a lot.

02:33:31.000 But I've been down in meatballs all night, so I don't really know how long this is going to last.

02:33:37.000 I don't know.

02:33:37.000 It's kind of cold, too.

02:33:38.000 I don't want to get food poisoning live on air.

02:33:42.000 There's no bathroom breaks.

02:33:46.000 We might need to heat it up.

02:33:49.000 Press 1 if you think Gavin Newsom won, 2 if you think Ron DeSantis won, 3 if Trump 2024. 0.99

02:33:55.000 I don't give a shit about Gavin Newsom or Ron DeSantis. 0.99

02:34:06.000 Alrighty. 0.99

02:34:06.000 I don't want to get food poisoning, so we're going to go heat that meatball up. 0.99

02:34:14.000 This is a very long debate.

02:34:16.000 Oh, God.

02:34:21.000 Three.

02:34:22.000 All right, three.

02:34:23.000 Trump is winning the debate.

02:34:25.000 That's right.

02:34:25.000 Trump, Trump, Trump.

02:34:29.000 Someone said, is Ron as autistic as I think he is?

02:34:33.000 I think so.

02:34:37.000 Everybody says Trump is winning.

02:34:39.000 Everybody says Trump.

02:34:41.000 We gotta post on TruSocial and let Trump know that the Laura Loomer Unleashed official chat poll says that he won the debate tonight between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis.

02:34:56.000 Donald Trump is such an alpha boss.

02:34:59.000 Okay that he actually has Gavin Newsome simping for him tonight on stage at this debate.

02:35:04.000 He's actually calling him out.

02:35:06.000 So this is pretty great.

02:35:09.000 This is really great.

02:35:17.000 All right.

02:35:18.000 Any questions?

02:35:19.000 You guys?

02:35:19.000 I see your numbers.

02:35:20.000 We got some super chats, too.

02:35:22.000 Let's go to some more of the super chats.

02:35:25.000 Let's see.

02:35:27.000 Um, Trump Trump won $5.

02:35:29.000 Share this with Team Trump.

02:35:32.000 Row Flow, $18.04.

02:35:35.000 $1.

02:35:35.000 100,000 sperm and Ronnie Boy is the fastest.

02:35:37.000 You're a bully. 1.00

02:35:38.000 No, you're a bully. 1.00

02:35:39.000 Laugh my ass off. 1.00

02:35:40.000 It's like watching a couple of the Special Olympics contestants in the movie The Ringer argue. 0.94

02:35:45.000 Yeah.

02:35:48.000 Somebody said, uh, okay, Bridget 209 Trump, $10.

02:35:53.000 Nothing beats a Loomer watch party.

02:35:54.000 Looking forward to more.

02:35:56.000 Alrighty, let's see what Trump is saying on True Social while we're waiting for this.

02:36:01.000 Scroll down.

02:36:02.000 Is he commenting on it?

02:36:03.000 Scroll down some more.

02:36:06.000 My direct, scroll up.

02:36:08.000 My direct boss, Michael, would like to call you and your dad to thank you for being such great clients for all the business we've been doing together.

02:36:14.000 Let's see, scroll down.

02:36:21.000 Business Insider.

02:36:22.000 Deutsche Bank executives practically swooned over Donald Trump's real estate fortune according to internal documents made public by the defense in his New York civil fraud trial.

02:36:31.000 Trump was seen as a wealthy, fiscally responsible whale who could open doors to his billions and his network of fellow moguls.

02:36:39.000 Look at Trump posted judging Goran's wife.

02:36:42.000 See?

02:36:47.000 Yep, another.

02:36:48.000 See, today Trump posted a bunch of my posts.

02:36:50.000 You remember when you were watching Loomer Unleashed a couple weeks ago.

02:36:53.000 See that?

02:36:53.000 Donald Trump retreuthed Laura Loomer.

02:36:55.000 Exclusive!

02:36:56.000 I have uncovered screenshots from the ex-account of Dawn Marie Angoran, the wife of leftist NYC judge Arthur Angoran.

02:37:01.000 You see that?

02:37:02.000 That's Trump's true social page.

02:37:03.000 He reposted that today.

02:37:04.000 So, that's pretty cool.

02:37:06.000 You know, I like seeing my stuff.

02:37:07.000 Another one! 0.99

02:37:08.000 Another Donald Trump Retruth Lore Loomer.

02:37:10.000 Gee, sure looks like Ian O'Goron, the son of leftist judge Arthur O'Goron, is the man next to a New York Attorney General.

02:37:15.000 Scroll down, too, because he shared some of my articles.

02:37:17.000 Another one! 0.99

02:37:18.000 He posted so many of my posts today.

02:37:19.000 I love Donald Trump.

02:37:20.000 Oh my God, another one!

02:37:22.000 Look, that's like four Loomer posts in a row.

02:37:24.000 That's so nice of him.

02:37:30.000 Oh, another one today.

02:37:32.000 Loomerd.com.

02:37:34.000 Exclusive how, scroll up, exclusive how leftist judging Goran is making Trump's New York City fraud trial a family affair.

02:37:41.000 So look, Donald Trump reads my website, okay?

02:37:44.000 Make sure that you are also bookmarking Lumerd.com and LumerReport.com.

02:37:50.000 As I announced the other day, I just launched my own news aggregation site, LumerReport.com.

02:37:54.000 That's LumerReport.com and you can get news there.

02:37:58.000 It's news aggregation and you can get access to all of my articles and

02:38:02.000 A lot of stuff.

02:38:02.000 So let's see what's going on right now.

02:38:04.000 Fox News, the traitor, former Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany.

02:38:19.000 Kayleigh McEnany just said that Gavin Newsom was the best messenger for the Democratic Party.

02:38:24.000 DeSantis had some really strong moments, particularly when he said, look, I talked to a guy who said, I love the employment down here.

02:38:31.000 I love the wages down here.

02:38:33.000 I love the state of Florida, how safe it is.

02:38:36.000 Oh, by the way, that was your father-in-law, Gavin Newsom, also pulling out the map of the feces in San Francisco.

02:38:43.000 Another strong and powerful moment.

02:38:44.000 So I think the clear winner, Ron DeSantis, in a nearly impossible task for Gavin Newsom.

02:38:51.000 Let's get your take, Ari Fleischer.

02:38:55.000 Well, I think watching this, you just realize Democrats are from Mars and Republicans are from Venus.

02:39:01.000 They speak totally different languages.

02:39:04.000 Ron DeSantis' language was one of economics, gasoline, six, seven dollars a gallon, the lockdowns in California.

02:39:12.000 It was very practical, very focused on people's daily lives.

02:39:15.000 I mean, honestly, Newsom's beatdown of DeSantis should be like,

02:39:18.000 And in contribution to the Trump campaign.

02:39:20.000 That was so brutal.

02:39:20.000 So exhausting.

02:39:34.000 See, I told you!

02:39:34.000 Did I not tell you?

02:39:51.000 Did I not tell you in my monologue, immediately following this debate, they were going to say Gavin Newsom is much quicker than Joe Biden.

02:39:57.000 That was what this debate was all about, you guys.

02:40:00.000 It's a way for them to start saying, you know, Gavin Newsom should be the nominee instead of Joe Biden.

02:40:05.000 He just said it.

02:40:07.000 He just said it.

02:40:08.000 You heard it here, guys.

02:40:09.000 I've been saying it for weeks that this is what they were going to do.

02:40:12.000 I said it in my monologue tonight.

02:40:13.000 Go back and watch.

02:40:15.000 Here we go!

02:40:16.000 Actually it was separate from that.

02:40:17.000 I could just tell you in the discussion leading up to this that this was really a state versus state and although clearly I think having a time... I guess they're not doing a second hour.

02:40:26.000 They were just trying to placate the audience.

02:40:29.000 They're just doing live coverage.

02:40:31.000 So, first off, congrats, Sean.

02:40:33.000 I thought you did a great job, and you framed this thing the right way.

02:40:35.000 A state versus a state, and both of these candidates, who are governors, were very passionate, patriotic.

02:40:42.000 They defended their records.

02:40:44.000 I think Kayleigh and Mr. Fleischer are right.

02:40:48.000 I think what Ari said at the end there is probably most useful, and maybe the utility level is highest.

02:40:55.000 Who did best for their parties tonight? 0.96

02:40:57.000 I think one of the things, and Kayleigh said at the outset, there's no doubt that Gavin Newsom will be the most important, the most forceful and articulate advocate on behalf of Democrats in this 2024 election.

02:41:09.000 Look at the front cover.

02:41:10.000 Let's turn the feed off and we'll just go.

02:41:15.000 The front page of Judge Report right now.

02:41:17.000 Newsom makes national debut.

02:41:19.000 I told you, you see guys, look, this is all about Gavin Newsom, right?

02:41:23.000 They wanted to make the national debut so that he can be the Democrat nominee, not Joe Biden.

02:41:28.000 And that's the purpose of this debate.

02:41:29.000 They wanted, they know that Ron DeSantis is done, but they wanted to say, wow, look, Gavin is so much better than Joe Biden.

02:41:36.000 So let's go back over to the, oh, scroll down.

02:41:39.000 Look at Florida GOP chair.

02:41:40.000 This is Judge Report.

02:41:41.000 I mean, we're gonna, we're replacing them with my Luma Report, but scroll up.

02:41:45.000 Florida GOP chair accused of sexual battery by alleged menage a trois lover.

02:41:50.000 So, that's Christian Ziegler, and of course, that's the story that came out today, of course.

02:41:58.000 My producer and I were just, well, we just saw Christian the other day at the Florida Summit, and so he was there with his kids, and my producer goes, hey, is that guy that was in the news today, the guy that we were talking to that we saw at the Summit?

02:42:09.000 And I was like, yeah, that was him.

02:42:13.000 Let's go to LumaReport.com.

02:42:14.000 You can see this is going to be the new site to take over, Drudge.

02:42:18.000 LumaReport, real news for truth-seekers.

02:42:20.000 Be sure that you visit LumaReport.com and you bookmark it and make it your homepage.

02:42:24.000 The headline story, Trump defies unconstitutional gag order from Democrat judge.

02:42:28.000 So as soon as Judge Angoran today said, you know, we need to reinstate this gag order, Trump defied it, okay, like a boss, and he shared my article.

02:42:38.000 So it's pretty great today and now CNN, there's a CNN article about it today and of course they don't want to say my name.

02:42:42.000 It's like Voldemort, man.

02:42:44.000 I broke this story and Trump posted my stuff and CNN and all these liberal outlets will not say my name.

02:42:50.000 They will literally not say my name.

02:42:57.000 So you can see, you can scroll down after talking about the wife, right?

02:43:06.000 Let's see.

02:43:07.000 There's another story to that was texted to me while I was actually doing this.

02:43:18.000 Here.

02:43:18.000 It's just unbelievable.

02:43:23.000 They don't want to mention where it came from, of course, and nobody wants to look into it.

02:43:26.000 And then today the wife deleted her account judging Goran's wife.

02:43:31.000 And of course, for

02:43:36.000 Loomer Unleashed, right?

02:43:37.000 See, judge attacks, Trump attacks wife of New York judge after gag order reinstated in court.

02:43:41.000 Scroll down.

02:43:45.000 Scroll down some more.

02:43:49.000 See, they won't even mention it.

02:43:50.000 They don't even want to mention my social media posts.

02:43:53.000 Oh well.

02:43:54.000 You know, they never want to give credit for anything, even though I broke the story.

02:43:58.000 They just hate me, the media.

02:44:00.000 They really do.

02:44:04.000 Well, before we sign off for the night, let's take a few more questions.

02:44:11.000 Let's go to the chat.

02:44:12.000 I want to take some more questions.

02:44:20.000 Loomer is the Ultra Maga Queen.

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02:44:30.000 You can sign up for my Locals by going to locals.com slash Loomer or by clicking Get Loomered at the bottom of the Rumble page here.

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02:44:44.000 Somebody I saw said she deleted her account and I said yes. 0.99

02:44:50.000 She did.

02:44:51.000 She actually deleted her account.

02:44:53.000 We're on the front page of Rumble there.

02:44:54.000 So you can click support.

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02:45:21.000 And look, guys, we need to.

02:45:23.000 I need to be able to pay my staff and also buy meatballs and snack packs.

02:45:28.000 Okay, So if you want to support my production and you want to make sure that I have a healthy diet for the rest of my life of.

02:45:35.000 Snack packs and

02:45:46.000 Someone said, love you, Laura.

02:45:47.000 You're awesome.

02:45:48.000 You always do a great job.

02:45:49.000 Oh, thank you so much.

02:45:50.000 That's so sweet.

02:45:51.000 Loomer for Press Secretary.

02:45:52.000 We should just get t-shirts made.

02:45:54.000 Do you guys think that I should start selling t-shirts that say Laura Loomer for Press Secretary?

02:45:58.000 And we could just start, like, we could just put those on the merch site.

02:46:03.000 Laura Loomer for Press Secretary.

02:46:05.000 I think that that would be great.

02:46:11.000 Laura, by participating in this debate, do you think DeSantis proved his allegiance to the establishment globalists?

02:46:16.000 Absolutely.

02:46:19.000 Absolutely.

02:46:23.000 Someone said, great job, Laura. 0.99

02:46:24.000 Thanks for not talking over the debate.

02:46:26.000 Yeah, there's nothing more obnoxious than watching a debate when somebody's talking over every two seconds.

02:46:33.000 Somebody said, yes, I will buy 10 of those shirts.

02:46:35.000 All right, that's it.

02:46:36.000 Okay, we're gonna do it.

02:46:39.000 We gotta put that on the list, you guys.

02:46:41.000 We gotta get Laura Loomer for press secretary shirts, all right?

02:46:46.000 I'm gonna wear that shirt everywhere.

02:46:50.000 Laura Loomer for press secretary, that is so funny.

02:46:55.000 Somebody said, Laura Loomer for everything.

02:46:57.000 Oh, I love that, that's so nice.

02:47:01.000 You put them to shame, Laura.

02:47:03.000 When you find Laura, other media makes me sick.

02:47:05.000 Laura is the cure.

02:47:06.000 Thank you.

02:47:10.000 Let's see.

02:47:18.000 That t shirt would be great.

02:47:19.000 A bestseller.

02:47:20.000 Someone said, I'm current Trump.

02:47:21.000 Trump one said, I'm currently funding your locals.

02:47:24.000 Thank you so much.

02:47:26.000 They said, however, I was charged twice this month.

02:47:28.000 Take that up with the support because I don't manage the support there.

02:47:31.000 Look at we're on the front page of rumble.

02:47:32.000 You guys, we are on the front page of rumble.

02:47:34.000 Isn't that cool?

02:47:35.000 Look at us.

02:47:37.000 It's pretty cool.

02:47:39.000 It's nice.

02:47:41.000 Got a lot of views.

02:47:44.000 But be sure, you guys, when you go to Rumble, that you download the app on your phone.

02:47:49.000 It's free, but download it and follow me so that you subscribe to my Rumble, so that you can actually follow my account.

02:48:06.000 Someone said, love you, Laura.

02:48:07.000 Just disagree with you on a lot of what happened tonight.

02:48:09.000 Look, we can all have...

02:48:12.000 Different, you know, opinions about what happened tonight.

02:48:16.000 Like losing my voice from talking so much these last few days.

02:48:21.000 Also, it is Thursday today, so just so you know, next Tuesday there is no Loomer Unleashed.

02:48:28.000 And there's no Loomer Unleashed next Tuesday because next Tuesday I will be flying to Alabama because I will be reporting live from the fourth GOP presidential debate.

02:48:38.000 And so I will be... Rumble, actually, I can now announce this, is letting me broadcast from their studio since they are the official livestream partner for the RNC.

02:48:47.000 And so I will be streaming from 3 to 5 p.m.

02:48:50.000 Eastern before the debate, which starts at 7 p.m.

02:48:52.000 Eastern, I believe.

02:48:53.000 And so if you want to catch Loomer Unleashed, I will be doing it on Wednesday of next week as opposed to Tuesday at 3 p.m.

02:49:01.000 Eastern to 5 p.m.

02:49:02.000 Eastern.

02:49:03.000 And then, of course, I'll be doing debate coverage as well afterwards.

02:49:06.000 And so stay tuned for that.

02:49:07.000 I'm going to be traveling to Alabama.

02:49:10.000 It was just announced today that Trump isn't going to be in Alabama for the debate, but the day before, he's going to be doing a town hall in, I believe, Davenport, Iowa.

02:49:18.000 And so, and then the next day, the day of the debate, he'll be at a fundraiser, because why should he have to go to the debate when he could just have a fundraiser?

02:49:25.000 Everybody knows that he's going to be the nominee.

02:49:28.000 And then, of course, he's doing a town hall in Iowa, even though Ron DeSantis is always saying, oh, Trump's never in Iowa.

02:49:33.000 He's always in Iowa.

02:49:34.000 What are you talking about, Ron?

02:49:36.000 So that will be fun.

02:49:38.000 I've never been to Alabama before.

02:49:42.000 So I'm excited.

02:49:43.000 It's going to be.

02:49:44.000 Is it the Roll Tide crowd?

02:49:44.000 It's going to.

02:49:46.000 All right.

02:49:46.000 I'm not really into football, but.

02:49:49.000 But you know, it's I'm going to have to go to Tuscaloosa and it's going to be at the University of Alabama.

02:49:55.000 So if you are in Alabama or if you go to the University of Alabama, I will be coming to your hood on Tuesday and I will be there Wednesday.

02:50:04.000 So be sure that you come by media row and say hello because I will be there.

02:50:09.000 At University of Alabama streaming live.

02:50:12.000 So mark your calendars.

02:50:14.000 No loomer unleashed this coming Tuesday, but there will be loomer unleashed from 3 to 5 p.m.

02:50:18.000 Eastern on Wednesday.

02:50:26.000 Somebody said I love your raspy voice.

02:50:29.000 Oh, thank you.

02:50:30.000 I'm glad that somebody likes it.

02:50:38.000 Somebody said, Laura, we're going to miss you.

02:50:40.000 What are you doing to us?

02:50:41.000 How are you going to survive?

02:50:42.000 Well, I'll be there on Wednesday.

02:50:43.000 It's okay.

02:50:44.000 You guys will survive without me after, you know, Tuesday.

02:50:47.000 You can catch me on Wednesday.

02:50:48.000 And then Thursday, I guess I'll be flying back from Alabama, so I'll have to do the show Friday.

02:50:55.000 So this coming week, Loomer Unleashed will be on Wednesdays and Wednesday and Friday.

02:51:00.000 So just mark your calendars.

02:51:02.000 It's usually Tuesday and Thursday, but because of the travel schedule, got to change it up a bit this week, you guys.

02:51:09.000 Someone said, is the debate at that university?

02:51:11.000 Yeah, it's actually at the University of Alabama.

02:51:19.000 Minuteman45 said, you are amazing, Laura.

02:51:21.000 You motivate a veteran like me to stay resilient to this tyranny.

02:51:24.000 You're a national treasure.

02:51:25.000 Oh, that's so nice.

02:51:25.000 Thank you.

02:51:26.000 Appreciate that.

02:51:27.000 Somebody, Warnard13 said, Alabama is getting lumered.

02:51:32.000 Yeah.

02:51:34.000 Absolutely.

02:51:35.000 Yeah.

02:51:40.000 Why is DeSantis running unless they take care of Trump being off the ballot?

02:51:46.000 Yeah. 0.83

02:51:47.000 Look, like I said, they're going to either try to kill Trump. 0.87

02:51:50.000 We've already talked about that, unfortunately.

02:51:52.000 Or they're going to try to have to run Gavin Newsom because they already know that Trump will beat Biden.

02:51:59.000 I mean, look.

02:52:03.000 It's definitely going to be the situation.

02:52:10.000 Is it CST or EST Wednesday?

02:52:12.000 It's Eastern.

02:52:13.000 It's 3 to 5 Eastern.

02:52:19.000 We're good.

02:52:20.000 We're good.

02:52:21.000 We're good.

02:52:22.000 We're good.

02:52:23.000 We're good.

02:52:24.000 We're good.

02:52:25.000 We're good.

02:52:26.000 We're good.

02:52:27.000 We're good.

02:52:28.000 We're good.

02:52:29.000 We're good.

02:52:30.000 We're good.

02:52:31.000 We're good.

02:52:32.000 We're good.

02:52:33.000 We're good.

02:52:34.000 We're good.

02:52:35.000 We're good.

02:52:36.000 We're good.

02:52:37.000 We're good.

02:52:38.000 We're good.

02:52:39.000 We're good.

02:52:40.000 We're good.

02:52:41.000 We're good.

02:52:47.000 But yeah, I'll be in Alabama for two days.

02:52:49.000 It'll be fun.

02:52:57.000 Somebody said, would you vote for DeSantis over Newsom?

02:53:00.000 No, I wouldn't.

02:53:01.000 I would write Trump in.

02:53:02.000 I'm not voting for anybody but Trump.

02:53:04.000 I've already said this.

02:53:05.000 I don't care.

02:53:06.000 If they try to lock Trump up and they try to take him off the ballot, I will literally get a bulk order of Sharpies and stand outside every single polling location and recruit people to stand outside polling locations and give big black Sharpies to voters across the country so they can write Trump across their ballot, okay?

02:53:22.000 That is what I will do.

02:53:24.000 I'm only voting for Donald Trump.

02:53:26.000 Look it.

02:53:26.000 Ultra MAGA.

02:53:28.000 Ultra MAGA.

02:53:29.000 That's what that means.

02:53:29.000 Okay?

02:53:30.000 That means you only vote for Donald Trump.

02:53:43.000 Someone, Khan said, my mom's not doing so good.

02:53:46.000 I'm spending Christmas with her.

02:53:47.000 I'm worried, but I know God's on my side and God will take care of me, but thank you very much.

02:53:50.000 Well, best wishes to your mom.

02:53:52.000 I hope she gets better soon.

02:53:54.000 Sorry to hear that.

02:53:58.000 Got some more super chats tonight as well, I see.

02:54:01.000 $20, $10, $10.

02:54:01.000 Let's click on those.

02:54:09.000 H Marquis 11.

02:54:10.000 Love your work.

02:54:11.000 Keep it up.

02:54:11.000 Thank you for the $10 super chat.

02:54:15.000 Thank you.

02:54:23.000 John Wick.

02:54:24.000 I firmly believe the Democrats running Newsom will backfire the same way running Ron did.

02:54:28.000 We'll see.

02:54:29.000 We shall see.

02:54:35.000 Return of the Donald.

02:54:36.000 Oh, Florida Hustler.

02:54:37.000 Thank you so much, Florida Hustler, for that amazing call the other night.

02:54:41.000 I actually clipped it, and we put it up on my ex account, so you can check that out.

02:54:47.000 He said, Ron creates a bill for $2 billion reinsurance relief bill and alleviating skyrocketing insurance rates, and he triples the rates.

02:54:53.000 WTFFF.

02:54:54.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.98

02:55:01.000 I was gonna make a sarcastic joke, but if anyone thinks Hamas shouldn't be exterminated like the vermin that they are, then bring it. 1.00

02:55:06.000 I'm armed. 0.85

02:55:10.000 Who do I think is Trump's biggest threat in either party?

02:55:13.000 I don't think that there are either parties.

02:55:15.000 I think it's a big uniparty and they're all just working together. 1.00

02:55:18.000 I mean, look, Hillary Clinton's donors are now backing Nikki Haley, okay?

02:55:21.000 Jamie Dimon is a Democrat who gave a million dollars to the SPLC after Charlottesville to go after Trump and his supporters.

02:55:28.000 And today he said, I encourage all my rich Democrat friends to donate to Nikki Haley because if the Democrats are not likable enough to win, then support a Republican that isn't a MAGA Republican.

02:55:37.000 That's what he said.

02:55:38.000 You could pull it up.

02:55:39.000 The New York Times had a story about it today.

02:55:40.000 New York Times, Jamie Dimon, Nikki Haley.

02:55:42.000 Big story today.

02:55:43.000 We covered it, too, on my website, but let's just show the New York Times report so that... Nikki Haley, Jamie Dimon, New York Times.

02:55:53.000 And then Trump, of course, slammed him, so you could pull that one up.

02:55:56.000 Trump slams Jamie Dimon.

02:55:58.000 Jamie Dimon urges donors, business leaders, help Nikki Haley.

02:56:01.000 There we go.

02:56:02.000 NBC picked it up, too.

02:56:03.000 We'll get this up on the screen so y'all can see that.

02:56:10.000 So look, JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon told an audience of business leaders to help Nikki Haley's 2024 Republican campaign for president.

02:56:17.000 We saw that.

02:56:18.000 Get a choice on the Republican side that might be better than Donald Trump, he said at the Diamond and that Diamond said at the conference hosted by the New York Times DealBook franchise.

02:56:28.000 In the audience was hedge fund veteran Bill Ackman, billionaire Elon Musk, media titan David Zaslav, and Disney CEO Bob Iger were all scheduled to speak later in the day.

02:56:37.000 So.

02:56:40.000 Um, Elon Musk was asked shortly after this whether he would vote for Biden or, uh, Biden or Trump.

02:56:46.000 I think we have that clip actually pulled up.

02:56:48.000 Maybe, uh, if not, I posted it on my ex account, but Elon Musk said he was asked, would you vote for Biden or Trump?

02:56:56.000 And he said, I wouldn't vote for Biden.

02:56:58.000 So you can listen to that clip as well.

02:57:02.000 You guys, don't forget to like and share this stream so that other people can watch it as well.

02:57:08.000 Be sure that you're following me on Rumble.

02:57:10.000 Be sure that you are following me on X and True Social at Laura Loomer.

02:57:27.000 You know, one thing that I noticed tonight, too, is that Sean Hannity didn't press Ron DeSantis at all on any of his lies, so it is really funny.

02:57:34.000 This bingo card that we had here tonight, saved by Fox News, because he was. 0.74

02:57:38.000 He was really saved by Fox News, right?

02:57:40.000 It's very unfortunate.

02:57:44.000 Very unfortunate to see that.

02:57:48.000 Alright, we're gonna play this clip now of Elon Musk being asked whether he would support Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

02:57:55.000 Names to be exposed, as you know.

02:57:57.000 No, I think that's... I would not vote for Biden.

02:58:00.000 You'd vote for Trump?

02:58:01.000 I'm not saying I'd vote for Trump, but I mean... This is definitely a difficult choice here.

02:58:11.000 Would you vote for Nikki Haley?

02:58:12.000 Nikki Haley, by the way, wants all social media 0.61

02:58:18.000 I'm not going to vote for some pro-censorship candidate.

02:58:23.000 I would not vote for Biden.

02:58:26.000 You'd vote for Trump.

02:58:27.000 I'm not saying I'd vote for Trump, but I mean...

02:58:39.000 This is definitely a difficult choice, yeah.

02:58:43.000 Would you vote for Nikki Haley?

02:58:44.000 Nikki Haley, by the way, wants all social media names to be exposed, as you know.

02:58:51.000 No, I think that's outrageous.

02:58:54.000 Yeah, no, I'm not going to vote for some pro-censorship candidate.

02:58:58.000 I would not vote for Biden.

02:59:01.000 Oh, it's a difficult choice, isn't it?

02:59:03.000 Oh, I don't know.

02:59:04.000 I definitely would not vote for Joe Biden.

02:59:09.000 Nobody wants to vote for Biden!

02:59:10.000 Even Chris Cuomo was on Patrick McDavid's show, I saw, and said something very similar.

02:59:16.000 So people are now starting to have this mentality of, wow, I don't... I may not like Trump's personality, but I'm gonna maybe vote for him because Biden has just completely driven our country into the ground.

02:59:26.000 Like, it's actually starting to scare all of these asshole elites who have trashed Donald Trump to make millions of dollars, and now they're, like, really freaked out because the country's literally on life support, so... 0.56

02:59:37.000 I think some of these people are starting to have second thoughts, but. 0.85

02:59:40.000 Let's take a couple more questions because, you know, we have been streaming now for three hours, and got to get ready for everything this coming week as well.

02:59:52.000 I'll also be doing Roger Stone's show, his WABC radio show, this Sunday, so be sure that you tune in to that at 5.30 p.m.

02:59:59.000 Eastern.

03:00:00.000 Tomorrow at 1 p.m.

03:00:01.000 Eastern, I'll be live on the Mark Kaye Show, and so lots of stuff going on.

03:00:06.000 Lots of stuff.

03:00:07.000 No days off.

03:00:08.000 Even on days when I don't do Luma Unleashed, I have a lot of content, but we will be traveling to Alabama, which I'm really excited for because I'm really excited to be on the ground and cover the debate.

03:00:17.000 It's going to be the official pro-Trump stream because Donald Trump doesn't have any official campaign surrogates going.

03:00:23.000 And so the Loomer Unleashed stream will 100% be the exclusive pro-Trump stream at the RNC debate.

03:00:30.000 And Rumble has invited me to stream from their studio as the official sponsor of the RNC debate because I am a Rumble content creator.

03:00:39.000 So you can see Rumble will be the exclusive RNC livestream provider for the fourth debate, and I will be there as one of their exclusive hosts for content in their pre-debate stream.

03:00:51.000 And I'm the last one before the debate starts, which is really great because that means it's going to be front page, right on the front page of Rumble.

03:00:59.000 Since it's their official event, it's not me just doing my own stream.

03:01:04.000 I was actually invited by Rumble to come out

03:01:07.000 For the debate, which is exciting.

03:01:08.000 So thanks to Rumble for the invitation.

03:01:11.000 I'm really looking forward to it.

03:01:15.000 Somebody said it's not Biden.

03:01:16.000 It's Obama.

03:01:23.000 Somebody said my niece is the FIMU sorority at Alabama.

03:01:26.000 They're mostly conservative.

03:01:27.000 You should go visit their house.

03:01:29.000 Well, I've never been to a sorority house before.

03:01:32.000 I don't know what a sorority house is like because I really wasn't into all that stuff when I was in college.

03:01:36.000 I was a bit of a nerd.

03:01:37.000 But, um, yeah, come find me.

03:01:40.000 I'll be there.

03:01:41.000 So, I mean, I'm going to be working, but if she wants to stop by the Rumble booth, we'll say hi.

03:01:50.000 Someone said, I've just found you, Laura.

03:01:52.000 Love this channel.

03:01:53.000 Thank you, DJT2024.

03:01:55.000 Oh, amazing.

03:01:55.000 I'm so glad you love the channel.

03:01:57.000 Thanks so much.

03:02:00.000 Be sure that you share it.

03:02:01.000 Tell your friends.

03:02:03.000 Nikki6512 said, You work all the time, Laura. 0.82

03:02:06.000 Unlike our lazy house GOP, worthless, they all are MAGA Trump.

03:02:12.000 That is true.

03:02:13.000 That's why I don't have a voice right now, because I've been working so much that I've lost my voice.

03:02:18.000 I can't get off the phone.

03:02:20.000 I can't stop streaming and now I've lost my voice.

03:02:23.000 Hope I got a. Events this weekend, too, that I have to go to.

03:02:27.000 And so hopefully I actually have my voice for the debate next week.

03:02:35.000 All righty, everybody.

03:02:36.000 Well, that's a wrap.

03:02:38.000 I really appreciate everybody who tuned in tonight.

03:02:40.000 We had a really great show.

03:02:41.000 A lot of fun.

03:02:42.000 I'm going to have to go work off all these snack packs and.

03:02:46.000 Hope that I can still fit into my pants later.

03:02:49.000 Hopefully, you know, I love blaming Ron DeSantis for everything, so now I get to blame him for my weight gain, too, if I end up gaining weight from these snack packs and meatballs tonight.

03:02:58.000 So, be sure that you are following me on Rumble.

03:03:02.000 Click the like and share button of this stream, because even after the live stream ends tonight, people will still be able to watch the show.

03:03:09.000 We're good.

03:03:10.000 We're good.

03:03:11.000 We're good.

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03:03:13.000 We're good.

03:03:14.000 We're good.

03:03:15.000 We're good.

03:03:16.000 We're good.

03:03:17.000 We're good.

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03:03:20.000 We're good.

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03:03:22.000 We're good.

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03:03:27.000 We're good.

03:03:28.000 We're good.

03:03:29.000 We're good.

03:03:30.000 We're good to go.

03:03:30.000 Um again.

03:03:31.000 I want to thank rumble, of course, for inviting me out to Alabama.

03:03:34.000 Be sure that you are also following me on locals.

03:03:37.000 Bookmark Luma report.

03:03:39.000 I know I keep on saying that, but it just launched this week, and I'm really excited about it, and we definitely want people to watch Luma report.

03:03:46.000 And that's where you can get your news.

03:03:48.000 It's news aggregation, right?

03:03:49.000 So you're able to get all types of headlines and all types of news, and it's an

03:03:57.000 I think that you guys will find that very useful.

03:03:59.000 Real News for Truth Seekers, and if you scroll down at the bottom as well, it has all of the Trump events too.

03:04:04.000 So, it's a place where you can get a lot of news, and you can also take polls, and you can read my exclusive reports, reports from other journalists, and then also see, you see Donald Trump on True Social.

03:04:17.000 We have a live, we have a link to Donald Trump's True Social account, so if you scroll down to the bottom, you'll see there's Trump events.

03:04:23.000 And then there's also Donald Trump on True Social and you click that and it takes you to Trump's True Social feed.

03:04:29.000 And so if you don't have a Trump, if you don't have True Social, which you should all be on True Social if you're a Trump supporter, right?

03:04:35.000 Then you can just go to Luma Report and we have all the information about Trump that you could ever want, right?

03:04:42.000 Everything that you would want to know about Donald Trump that your heart desires, right?

03:04:45.000 Because we are

03:04:46.000 We're good.

03:04:47.000 We're good.

03:04:48.000 We're good.

03:04:49.000 We're good.

03:05:07.000 We're good to go.

03:05:25.000 A possible replacement for Joe Biden and that's why I wanted to have this coverage tonight because the media is not going to show you how duplicitous they are.

03:05:34.000 They're not going to explain to you their technique of deception and how they're trying to, you know, pull the blanket over your eyes right now.

03:05:41.000 This was done as a way to slowly push out Biden and introduce Gavin Newsom on a national stage.

03:05:48.000 So hopefully I opened your eyes tonight.

03:05:50.000 But with that, see you next week on Loomer Unleashed, and I hope you all have a great night.

03:05:55.000 Thanks for watching.

03:05:56.000 There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.

03:06:05.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes. 0.95

03:06:11.000 Chained herself to square.

03:06:12.000 Is she chained? 0.86

03:06:37.000 We're good.

Loomer Unleashed - November 30, 2023

EP13: Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis LIVE DEBATE COVERAGE with Laura LoomerEP13: Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis LIVE DEBATE COVERAGE with Laura Loomer

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