Loomer Unleashed - EP138: Media Goes Crazy Over Loomer Loyalty Tip Line

00:31:40.000 There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.

00:31:49.000 If America's man acted like Laura Loomer, our problems will be fixed in about five minutes.

00:31:55.000 Chained herself to Twitter.

00:31:56.000 She chained herself.

00:31:57.000 Chained herself.

00:32:27.000 Chained herself.

00:32:47.000 Good evening, and welcome to episode 138 of Loomer Unleashed.

00:32:52.000 I'm your host, Laura Loomer.

00:32:54.000 We are live right now on Rumble and X. So please be sure that you head on over to rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.

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00:33:25.000 Seems like, I mean, I don't have to say seems like I am the top news story today.

00:33:30.000 Shouldn't be the top news story today because really the top news story should be the vetting that I do.

00:33:37.000 But instead of focusing on the vetting, the media wants to, you know, make it about me.

00:33:42.000 Literally, the front page story on Drudge Report today was about me.

00:33:48.000 Front page story on all of the major news outlets today were about me, actually.

00:33:52.000 We'll get into that momentarily.

00:33:54.000 In the meantime, we are live on X. So please be sure that you head on over to X, follow me on X.com slash Laura Loomer.

00:34:02.000 Also, be sure that you're following the Loomer Unleashed account, X.com/slash Loomer Unleashed.

00:34:09.000 We're going to be doing a lot of midterm coverage as well.

00:34:12.000 I'm already starting to cover a lot of the Senate races, the key Senate races that are taking place.

00:34:20.000 You have Roy Cooper, Radical Democrat in North Carolina.

00:34:23.000 You have John Osoff in Georgia.

00:34:25.000 So my team and I are going to be playing in all of the major Senate races.

00:34:30.000 We are already uncovering lots of dirt on John Cornyn in the very contentious and anticipated Texas GOP Senate primary between John Cornyn and Ken Paxton.

00:34:43.000 So be sure that you're following the Loomer Unleashed account because we will be ramping up our midterm coverage and it's going to be pretty bombastic.

00:34:51.000 It's going to be pretty sensational.

00:34:52.000 It's going to be truthful, but sensational because if you followed me and you've been following me, you were following me all throughout the 2024 election season, you know that it was the hits and the punches, journalistic punches, of course.

00:35:05.000 We're not talking about actual violence and punches.

00:35:08.000 We're not the radical left.

00:35:09.000 We're not playing Minecraft either.

00:35:12.000 But it was Loomer Unleashed that landed the most devastating punches and blows to these Democrats who were running for Senate.

00:35:21.000 I mean, look, even the NRSC contacted me after the 2024 election and they told me that they were able to have a victory in at least definitively, they thought that three of the victories that they had in 2024 were directly attributed to my journalism and that they were very impressed, especially the exposés that we did here at Loomer Unleashed on Sherrod Brown.

00:35:47.000 Remember Sherrod Brown, the radical Democrat who allowed for Ohio to be completely invaded by Haitian invaders who were eating people's dogs and cats and their pets.

00:35:56.000 We confronted him.

00:35:57.000 We were the only publication to confront the senator about the Haitians who were eating people's pets.

00:36:02.000 Video got millions of views online, like literally over 24 million views.

00:36:06.000 And within three days of that video coming out, he dropped 14 points.

00:36:11.000 So my point is, is that we are landing big hits, big blows on Senate candidates, and they're scared.

00:36:19.000 You wouldn't believe the types of phone calls I get on a daily basis from political operatives all across the country.

00:36:25.000 Some of them begging to work with me.

00:36:27.000 Some of them begging me not to get involved in their races.

00:36:30.000 Some of them begging me to, you know, sit down and meet their candidate so that they can explain themselves to me.

00:36:35.000 Because the problem is, and this is, you know, this really dovetails very nicely into the segment tonight.

00:36:43.000 Really, tonight's episode is a Laura Loomer Reacts episode because the entire day, I was trying to get my work done, trying to do my research.

00:36:51.000 You know, I'm working on a lot of projects right now, a lot of exposés.

00:36:54.000 I have a lot of tips to go through.

00:36:56.000 We have a lot of tips that have been submitted to the Loomered loyalty line at loomered.com.

00:37:01.000 Again, if you're not familiar with the Loomered tip line and you are a private citizen, or maybe you're a federal worker, or maybe you're a Trump administration official, and you want to blow the whistle on a disloyal individual who works within the administration or a disloyal federal worker or federal contractor, go to the dropdown bar on lumer.com and you can clip, click the tip line, insert your name, your email, the subject, your message.

00:37:27.000 And you can use a fake email.

00:37:29.000 Like if you Want to be totally anonymous, and obviously, I'm not just taking anonymous information.

00:37:36.000 I have to investigate, I have to vet the information myself.

00:37:39.000 A tip is a tip, right?

00:37:41.000 So, I saw some trolls online the other day when I said, Yeah, you could be anonymous if you want.

00:37:46.000 Oh, what could possibly go wrong with some crazy woman on the internet taking anonymous tips?

00:37:52.000 Well, isn't that how the media operates?

00:37:54.000 Anonymous sources, anonymous sources, anonymous sources said this about Donald Trump.

00:37:58.000 Anonymous sources told us that Donald Trump did this today.

00:38:00.000 Anonymous sources told us that Susie Wiles did this today.

00:38:03.000 It's so funny, isn't it?

00:38:04.000 How the tables have turned.

00:38:06.000 The tables have turned.

00:38:08.000 It's okay when the mainstream media has anonymous sources, but it's not okay when I have anonymous sources.

00:38:14.000 It's not okay when I tell people, go use a fake name, go use a fake email if you want to be completely anonymous and submit your message.

00:38:21.000 And I obviously have to vet the information and make sure that the information is correct.

00:38:25.000 But if a tip leads to me finding out accurate information, what's so bad about that?

00:38:31.000 Isn't that what the media does every single day?

00:38:33.000 That's what they do.

00:38:34.000 Every single news article.

00:38:35.000 I mean, even the articles that we're going to go through tonight talking about Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer.

00:38:41.000 I call it Loomer derangement syndrome.

00:38:43.000 You know, you have Trump derangement syndrome, which is a disease.

00:38:48.000 And then you have Loomer derangement syndrome.

00:38:50.000 And it's kind of getting up there on that same level.

00:38:55.000 I don't think that anything is ever going to top Trump derangement syndrome, but every single time I am in the news, the media just dogpiles.

00:39:03.000 They just love talking about the work that I'm doing.

00:39:06.000 They love insinuating things about me, smearing me, calling me a conspiracy theorist, calling me an Islamophobe, calling me a far-right activist.

00:39:16.000 They never want to actually just give me credit for the work that I do.

00:39:20.000 But now, because President Donald Trump himself recognizes the value in my work and he recognizes the value in my obsessive research, as the Washington Post called it today, it's getting kind of hard for them to dismiss me.

00:39:35.000 I don't think that they can really ignore me anymore.

00:39:37.000 They tried for years to ignore me.

00:39:39.000 For years, they lied about me.

00:39:42.000 They called me a white supremacist.

00:39:44.000 They deplatformed me.

00:39:45.000 I'm still banned on pretty much every single social media platform except for X. And of course, I have my show here on Rumble and I have my website, lumer.com, but I am still banned.

00:39:55.000 I just had to file a writ of sertiori with the Supreme Court the other day because I want them to hear my case, my RICO case against Meta.

00:40:04.000 Everybody knows what happened to me.

00:40:06.000 Everybody likes to pretend like I didn't get royally fucked over and that I didn't get the most raw deal ever.

00:40:14.000 Okay.

00:40:14.000 I had 10 years of my life stolen from me, stolen potential.

00:40:18.000 And it's so funny, like looking at all these haters online, they think I'm getting paid.

00:40:21.000 They're like, oh, she's getting paid.

00:40:23.000 She's getting paid by big pharma.

00:40:25.000 She's getting paid by, I don't know, whatever.

00:40:27.000 They seem to think that like all these people are paying me as if like, you know, I'm not allowed to make a living.

00:40:32.000 First of all, I'm allowed to make a living as a journalist.

00:40:34.000 We have sponsors here on this show, Kirk Elliott, Precious Metals, obviously.

00:40:38.000 I have my Rumble sponsors as well.

00:40:40.000 I am an exclusive Rumble creator.

00:40:43.000 Okay.

00:40:43.000 So am I not allowed to make a living doing my journalism, right?

00:40:47.000 Not allowed to have sponsors.

00:40:48.000 I just don't understand.

00:40:49.000 Am I supposed to be homeless?

00:40:51.000 The question is, is oh, who's paying Laura Loomer?

00:40:54.000 Well, who's paying me?

00:40:55.000 My subscribers, my sponsors, the people who want to support my work.

00:41:01.000 And if you want to support me and you want to pay me, you can go to lumer.com on my website.

00:41:06.000 There is a donation button on the dropdown bar next to the tip line.

00:41:10.000 And you can mail me a check.

00:41:12.000 You can donate online.

00:41:14.000 You can click to donate on my online portal.

00:41:16.000 You can donate by sending me a check.

00:41:19.000 So, yeah, I'm paid, paid by the American people.

00:41:23.000 Everybody's allowed to make a living.

00:41:24.000 I'm making an honest living.

00:41:26.000 Doesn't mean that I work for big pharma or that, you know, I'm working for some special interest.

00:41:32.000 I'm allowed to investigate whoever I want to investigate.

00:41:35.000 And I'm not bound by the rules of the administration because I don't work for the administration, right?

00:41:40.000 That's the beauty in all of this is people wanted me silenced.

00:41:44.000 That's what's so funny about this whole situation is that you can tell a lot of people are like, oh shit, it's a double-edged sword because they want me to expose the things that I'm exposing.

00:41:53.000 But sometimes people may not like the type of exposure that is created as a result of me doing the work that I do.

00:42:01.000 But my argument to them is, well, you deprived me of my professional opportunity for the last 10 years of my life by staying silent when I was viciously deplatformed and debanked.

00:42:12.000 And now tonight, I just tweeted the article.

00:42:14.000 Now we're finding out that Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase debanked the president of the United States and that they're not accepting his deposits.

00:42:22.000 I mean, I already knew that Donald Trump was debanked.

00:42:24.000 I wrote about it in my book.

00:42:25.000 And when I met with President Trump for the first time at Mar-a-Lago, I even mentioned to him, I said, oh, you know, you and I, we have a lot in common.

00:42:31.000 He's like, oh, yeah, what do we have in common, Laura?

00:42:34.000 And I told him, I was like, I've been debanked too.

00:42:36.000 And you could tell he's like a little freaked out.

00:42:38.000 He's like, whoa, how do you know that I was debanked?

00:42:40.000 Because at that time, it hadn't really been reported that, you know, he was very debanked.

00:42:44.000 And so I pay attention to these things.

00:42:46.000 I know these things.

00:42:47.000 And that's why I filed a RICO case against a lot of these big tech social media companies, right?

00:42:52.000 But my point is, is that in a sense, these people created the monster that they want to take down, right?

00:42:59.000 They think I'm a monster.

00:43:00.000 They think I'm some kind of villain.

00:43:01.000 Somebody the other day said that I'm Donald Trump's resputin.

00:43:04.000 That's how they described me.

00:43:05.000 They said, Laura Loomer is Donald Trump's resputin.

00:43:10.000 I kid you not.

00:43:11.000 I heard it.

00:43:12.000 I don't even know who said it, but I heard it.

00:43:14.000 I was listening to some interview somewhere and, you know, just listening to all this shit that people say.

00:43:20.000 People send me things all the time.

00:43:22.000 Can't even keep up with it, honestly.

00:43:24.000 I actually subscribe to a service.

00:43:26.000 I actually subscribe to a service to try to keep up with it all because there's so much.

00:43:30.000 I'm literally paying like $6,000 a year for this service so that I can get the updates every single day.

00:43:37.000 That's how much news coverage there is around me and, you know, the work that I'm doing on a daily basis.

00:43:42.000 I have to literally pay $6,000 a year for a professional service to track all the media mentions of my name because I have to make sure that people are not defaming me and that people are not trying to tarnish my reputation.

00:43:56.000 And I have to pay people to literally go through these clips on a daily basis and archive them so that I know what every single person is saying about me at every second of the day.

00:44:07.000 So, you know, it's a lot of work.

00:44:09.000 It's a lot of work on top of everything that I'm already doing with the investigative reporting and the vetting and the research.

00:44:16.000 And it's a lot.

00:44:18.000 It's a lot to do.

00:44:19.000 But why do I bring this up?

00:44:20.000 Because they debanked me years ago.

00:44:24.000 They deplatformed me.

00:44:26.000 They all want to pretend like I didn't run for Congress.

00:44:29.000 I just love how they never want to treat me with the respect that I deserve.

00:44:32.000 They never say congressional candidate Laura Loomer, primary winner, Laura Loomer.

00:44:38.000 I want a primary.

00:44:40.000 I want a primary.

00:44:41.000 Do you know how fucking hard it is to win a Republican congressional primary, especially when, you know, you're the most banned person in the country, if not the most banned woman in the world?

00:44:49.000 Do you know how hard it is in the modern digital era during COVID to win an election when the media is running hit piece after hit piece about you every day?

00:44:59.000 You're banned from, You know, being able to participate in the debates, and you're denied access to social media, the only candidate in the nation denied access.

00:45:08.000 You know how hard that is?

00:45:10.000 You know how hard it is to go and raise, you know, nearly $2 million as a candidate by yourself in small grassroots donations because nobody wants to help you and you have to do it yourself.

00:45:20.000 I couldn't even find a fundraiser.

00:45:21.000 I had a digital fundraiser.

00:45:24.000 You know that none of the major GOP fundraisers would work with me.

00:45:28.000 Now it's so funny because everyone's calling me kissing my ass, right?

00:45:31.000 Everyone wants to work with me now.

00:45:34.000 A lot of people want to work with me now.

00:45:36.000 But when I ran for Congress, nobody would even touch me.

00:45:39.000 They wouldn't, I had a list that I couldn't get people to rent my list.

00:45:42.000 I couldn't get people to run emails for me.

00:45:45.000 I couldn't get mail vendors to send out mail for me.

00:45:48.000 I couldn't get the media to talk about the fact that Comcast blocked my campaign from sending out emails or text messages.

00:45:56.000 I don't really think people understand or appreciate what I had to personally go through these last 10 years of my life to get to where I am today.

00:46:04.000 And no, nobody helped me.

00:46:07.000 I had my supporters, the American people, but I don't have some rich daddy.

00:46:11.000 I don't have, you know, rich parents who gave me a silver spoon in my mouth.

00:46:14.000 My political connections were not just given to me.

00:46:16.000 I worked for everything that I had.

00:46:18.000 I was viciously smeared.

00:46:20.000 I was broke.

00:46:22.000 There was a time where I literally thought that I wasn't going to be able to pay my rent.

00:46:27.000 So I know what it's like to be poor.

00:46:29.000 I know what it's like to financially struggle.

00:46:31.000 And I know what it's like to have absolutely nothing, even though you could have something because you want to work and you want to be able to do something.

00:46:39.000 I probably couldn't even get a job at McDonald's 10 years ago because of the way that the media viciously smeared me, trying to make it out to seem like I was some KKK member or, you know, I was some Klansman.

00:46:53.000 Ted Bundy and I literally have the same birthday.

00:47:00.000 We do.

00:47:02.000 I saw that online.

00:47:05.000 Ted Bundy and I literally have the same birthday.

00:47:09.000 Do you know that Ted Bundy has a nicer Wikipedia page than me?

00:47:15.000 You can look it up.

00:47:16.000 You can look it up right now.

00:47:17.000 Thank you.

00:47:28.000 He has a nicer, he has a nicer Wikipedia page than me.

00:47:33.000 Well, I thought he had the same birthday as me.

00:47:35.000 One of these serial killers has the same birthday as me.

00:47:38.000 But, you know, it's like serial killers.

00:47:39.000 My point is that serial killers literally have nicer Wikipedia pages than me.

00:47:45.000 It's true.

00:47:48.000 I mean, you can like read this and you can look at my Wikipedia page, go to my Wikipedia page, and you'll see.

00:47:54.000 It was Ted Bundy.

00:47:58.000 Ted Bundy, I was one day I just went through serial killers' Wikipedia pages and I was looking at their birthdays and I was looking at their pages to see like how they describe them, right?

00:48:07.000 So American far-right political activist, conspiracy theorist, internet personality.

00:48:14.000 You can scroll down.

00:48:15.000 Proud Islamophobe, white nationalist.

00:48:20.000 Loomers gained notoriety as a result of being banned from numerous social media platforms, including Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, payment processors, vehicles for hire, food delivery mobile apps for various reasons, violating policies on hate speech, posting misinformation.

00:48:38.000 She's also been banned from events and had press credentials revoked for harassment causing disturbances.

00:48:44.000 She was the Republican nominee to represent Florida's 21st congressional district in the 2020 United States House of Representatives election, losing to Democrat Lois Frankel.

00:48:55.000 She also ran in the Republican primary for Florida's 11th congressional district in 2022, losing to incumbent Daniel Webster.

00:49:03.000 In April 2023, Donald Trump sought to hire Loomer for his presidential campaign, but a senior campaign advisor successfully discouraged Trump from doing so.

00:49:11.000 By September 2024, some Trump supporters and others had expressed concerns about Loomer continuing, her continuing presence around and the influence on Trump.

00:49:21.000 So you can scroll down, you can see everything that they say about me, activities.

00:49:25.000 I mean, they just lie about me.

00:49:26.000 They say I started an ISIS club.

00:49:28.000 Well, they don't really reveal the context of the ISIS club and the fact that it was an expose on my university.

00:49:36.000 Scroll down.

00:49:38.000 They say I tried to entrap Hillary Clinton.

00:49:40.000 They don't talk about the fact that my exposés were actually used by President Trump during the debate.

00:49:46.000 They don't talk about all of the incredible work that I've done, all of the stories I've broken, all of the political influence that I've had in breaking massive stories that have had a massive impact on our political landscape in our country over the last 10 years.

00:50:00.000 They never say it.

00:50:01.000 They just smear me.

00:50:02.000 They just, you know, they even try to make me ask me like a whack job for protesting the production of Julius Caesar by the New York public theater when they were, you know, doing the assassination of the Trump lookalike.

00:50:17.000 They never want to talk about any of the work that I've done to support the president.

00:50:21.000 They never want to talk about any of the work that I've done to make my country a better place.

00:50:28.000 They never want to talk about the hardship that I went through when I ran for Congress.

00:50:34.000 I was the only deplatformed candidate.

00:50:37.000 I mean, if you go to Google right now, just to give people a little trip down memory lane, and it's important for people to have this context, right?

00:50:44.000 Because I'm so sick of it.

00:50:45.000 I'm so sick of it.

00:50:46.000 Like every day, oh, well, how does she have this influence?

00:50:48.000 Where did Laura Loomer come from?

00:50:50.000 Well, she's an influencer.

00:50:51.000 No, I'm not an influencer.

00:50:53.000 Okay.

00:50:53.000 I'm not some bimbo influencer that just posts on social media.

00:50:57.000 Okay.

00:50:57.000 I had a very large news publication with, you know, several millions of dollars of pledged investments into my media company before I was banned.

00:51:13.000 Okay.

00:51:13.000 That's what I had.

00:51:15.000 I had millions of dollars of investments pledged into my company before I was completely and viciously deplatformed.

00:51:25.000 I had meetings with donors in Beverly Hills, meetings with donors in New York City, and, you know, several donors, about five different donors collectively had pledged about $2.5 million, $3 million to help me create an app and take my lumering to the next level.

00:51:42.000 It was supposed to basically be like the right-wing political TMZ.

00:51:46.000 That's what I was in the process of developing before I was completely deplatformed on every single social media platform.

00:51:52.000 So just think about that.

00:51:54.000 If this was in 2018 and I had several donors who were willing to commit between $2.5 and $3 million upfront investments into my media company to help me create this app that would have crowdsourced viral news clips, would have trained people.

00:52:14.000 Where would I be today?

00:52:15.000 I kind of wonder, right?

00:52:16.000 Like, if this was in 2018, where would I be today had I not been deplatformed?

00:52:23.000 In 2019, I had 500,000 Instagram followers.

00:52:26.000 Where would I be today had, you know, my account not been completely deplatformed?

00:52:32.000 Where would I be today if I would have been able to promote my book with my millions of followers when I wrote a book at the end of my congressional campaign explaining what it was like being the most banned woman in the world?

00:52:43.000 Where would I be?

00:52:44.000 How much money would I have?

00:52:47.000 Where would I be?

00:52:48.000 Would I be working for mainstream media?

00:52:50.000 Would I have, you know, multi-million dollar media company?

00:52:54.000 Would I have a billion-dollar app idea?

00:52:58.000 Like, where would I be today?

00:53:01.000 I'm never going to know.

00:53:02.000 I'm never going to have the answer to those questions.

00:53:05.000 I'm never going to know.

00:53:05.000 I'm never going to have the answer to those questions because, yeah, you know, I can be resentful over the financial aspect of it and the fact that, you know, I've missed out on millions of dollars of revenue because of what these people in big tech did to me and because of all the smear campaigns perpetuated by the radical left and the GOP against me over the last 10 years of my life.

00:53:31.000 But what's worse than the financial missed opportunities is just the lost potential.

00:53:37.000 It's lost opportunity.

00:53:39.000 I'm 32 years old.

00:53:41.000 Okay.

00:53:41.000 And I just think to myself, like, what could I have accomplished over the last 10 years of my life as a woman in my prime, as a woman in my prime, from the time I was 22 years old to now being 32?

00:53:55.000 What could I have accomplished in the last 10 years of my life?

00:54:00.000 And then people are like, oh, well, you know, you've already accomplished so much.

00:54:03.000 And oh, you know, I'm so proud of you.

00:54:05.000 You should be so proud of yourself.

00:54:06.000 Yeah, I'm proud of myself.

00:54:08.000 But, you know, I kind of want more, right?

00:54:11.000 Like, I kind of want to know what's been taken from me.

00:54:14.000 I kind of want to know where I would be right now had it not been for all of the vicious deplatforming.

00:54:27.000 So I would say there's nothing worse than missed opportunities, stolen potential.

00:54:32.000 When I say missed opportunities, I mean like stolen opportunities, right?

00:54:36.000 Not missed because, oh, I'm lazy or, oh, I'm not motivated or, oh, you know, I'm not creative or, oh, you know, I'm not smart.

00:54:43.000 I'm not driven enough.

00:54:45.000 Like, what is the monetary, social, and political value of my stolen potential over the last 10 years of my life?

00:54:57.000 I mean, if these people are talking about how influential I am now, how much more influential could I be had I not had those last 10 years of my life pretty much robbed for me as a result of all the censorship and debanking and deplatforming.

00:55:12.000 So it's interesting.

00:55:15.000 And it's funny, like listening to the way the media goes, oh, well, you know, who is she?

00:55:19.000 Who is this girl?

00:55:20.000 Like, who's this 32-year-old woman who has the influence that she has?

00:55:24.000 Well, they know, right?

00:55:25.000 Because they all participated in the digital cancel culture of my life, the digital extermination of my career, the character assassination, the deplatforming, the debanking over the last 10 years of my life.

00:55:38.000 They know.

00:55:38.000 They know what they did to me.

00:55:39.000 So why are they pretending like they don't know who I am?

00:55:42.000 They know who I am.

00:55:43.000 They've known who I am for a long time.

00:55:46.000 Yeah, I'm young, but I did a lot in my early 20s.

00:55:50.000 I did a lot.

00:55:50.000 I was very politically connected, very social media savvy, very media savvy from a very young age.

00:55:58.000 I was the communications director for Project Veritas at 21 years old, right?

00:56:02.000 So it's a lot.

00:56:04.000 I managed all the social media and all the communications for a rollout during the presidential campaign in 2016 with the biggest October surprise of the election season.

00:56:14.000 So it's demeaning.

00:56:15.000 It's so demeaning when they say, oh, who is this girl?

00:56:18.000 What has she done?

00:56:18.000 They know what I've done.

00:56:19.000 They know what I've done.

00:56:20.000 They know the stories that I've broken.

00:56:22.000 They know the exposés that I've played a role in.

00:56:26.000 They know the people who I've worked with.

00:56:28.000 They know.

00:56:29.000 That's why President Trump himself said, oh, I've known Laura Loomer for a long time, right?

00:56:34.000 We have the clip actually.

00:56:35.000 Just as a reminder, before we get into this coverage tonight, because we're going to bring my longtime friend and mentor, Roger Stone, on.

00:56:42.000 But Trump even said himself, oh, I've known her for a very long time.

00:56:48.000 I've known her for a very long time.

00:56:53.000 Well, how do people think he's known me for a long time?

00:56:57.000 How do people think he's known me for a long time?

00:56:59.000 You think I just popped out of nowhere?

00:57:04.000 Donald Trump was a donor to Project Veritas.

00:57:08.000 People don't even know that Donald Trump became a donor to Project Veritas because of me, because he saw my investigation that prompted his interest.

00:57:16.000 And he faxed over a signed letter to James O'Keefe at Project Veritas in response to my investigation that went viral.

00:57:23.000 Okay.

00:57:24.000 They don't even know that James O'Keefe got invited to meet with President Trump, who was then not even candidate Donald Trump.

00:57:30.000 This was before he even ran for president, got invited to meet with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago as a result of my investigative journalism.

00:57:38.000 So yeah, Donald Trump has known about me for a long time, right?

00:57:43.000 I didn't just pop out of nowhere.

00:57:45.000 So I just, I don't know, I guess my biggest reaction to the way that the media reacts to me and the way that the media talks about me is just the pure dishonesty in what they've done.

00:57:58.000 And I guess it's just had this kind of like glorious kind of Streisand effect, right?

00:58:05.000 I guess you could say that because President Trump himself has said the hunters are now the hunted.

00:58:11.000 The hunters are now the hunted.

00:58:14.000 And that's right.

00:58:16.000 These people who spent the last 10 years of my life hunting me and trying to take me down the last 10 years of their life trying to take down Donald Trump and hunt Donald Trump, they're getting hunted now.

00:58:27.000 And they don't like it.

00:58:29.000 They don't like it because essentially all these people in the mainstream media, they rely on leakers.

00:58:36.000 They rely on bad people within the Trump administration leaking to them and betraying Donald Trump's trust.

00:58:45.000 That's their entire source network within the federal government.

00:58:49.000 It's how they make their money.

00:58:51.000 That's how they break their news stories by disloyal people around the president.

00:58:58.000 So I'm about to cut into these people's profit margins, which is why they're starting to freak out.

00:59:04.000 That's why there's such a media frenzy and why I was the front page of Drudge Report today.

00:59:10.000 You can get that pulled up too.

00:59:12.000 But this morning, they may have changed it since this morning.

00:59:16.000 What if you got a Drudge Report earlier this morning?

00:59:19.000 I was the top story on Drudge Report.

00:59:21.000 I'm sure it's still there if you scroll down a bit.

00:59:23.000 I have the screenshot of it.

00:59:25.000 But this morning, I was the front story.

00:59:28.000 You can keep on scrolling down.

00:59:29.000 There we go.

00:59:31.000 It was the top this morning.

00:59:33.000 But I've been on the front page of Drudge for the last four days in a row.

00:59:37.000 Inside Loomers Rise, Obsessive Research, Oval Office Visits, The Enforcer, More Scalps.

00:59:43.000 We're going to get into that all tonight.

00:59:46.000 But I really honestly think that's the reason why they're freaking out is because if I am successful in rooting out all of the disloyal operatives within the president's inner circle, who's going to be the source for The media.

01:00:01.000 Who's going to be the source for the left-wing anti-Trump media?

01:00:05.000 They're not going to have any sources.

01:00:07.000 So that's probably why they're freaking out.

01:00:10.000 We can go ahead and play this Trump clip again because, again, people always love to say, oh, you know, Trump doesn't know who she is.

01:00:17.000 Trump never offered to hire her.

01:00:19.000 Oh, you know, she just popped up randomly.

01:00:22.000 No, the president has known of me for at least a decade.

01:00:26.000 Okay.

01:00:26.000 As I said before, and you can verify the story with James O'Keefe.

01:00:29.000 He literally invited James O'Keefe to Trump Tower and became a donor to Project Veritas because of my video investigation about ISIS clubs on college campuses.

01:00:40.000 Okay?

01:00:41.000 True story.

01:00:42.000 Go ahead and play the clip.

01:00:46.000 What is your relationship with Laura Loomer?

01:00:48.000 What kind of influence with Laura Loomer?

01:00:50.000 What kind of influence does she have?

01:00:52.000 I think she's very nice.

01:00:53.000 I mean, I know she's known as a radical right, but I think Laura Loomer is a very nice person.

01:00:59.000 I've known her for a long time.

01:01:01.000 And, you know, personally, I think she's a patriot.

01:01:04.000 And she gets excited because of the fact that she's a patriot and she doesn't like things going on that she thinks are bad for the country.

01:01:12.000 I like her.

01:01:16.000 I've known her for a long time.

01:01:18.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:01:20.000 But the media never wants to talk about that.

01:01:26.000 We're going to bring Roger Stone in momentarily because Roger's going to join me to discuss this.

01:01:33.000 We even have our own little stinger, Loomer Derangement Syndrome.

01:01:36.000 Let's go ahead and play the stinger.

01:01:37.000 We actually made a stinger for Loomer Unleashed because the media has gone so crazy in their attacks on me and their coverage of me.

01:01:45.000 It's so obsessive, right?

01:01:46.000 Their coverage of me is so obsessive.

01:01:47.000 And look, I don't mind the coverage because they should be reporting on my work because it's good work.

01:01:52.000 Spend a lot of time doing my work.

01:01:53.000 I work 20 hours a day.

01:01:55.000 I don't really sleep much.

01:01:57.000 I think it's personally taken a toll on my health.

01:02:01.000 If we're being totally honest here, made a lot of sacrifices.

01:02:05.000 So it's about time that they start to actually cover my work and give it the credit that give me the credit that I deserve.

01:02:12.000 And today they're finally admitting that my reports are very well researched.

01:02:15.000 It's obsessive research because, like I said, for the last 10 years of my life, they stole my opportunity.

01:02:21.000 They robbed me of my potential.

01:02:23.000 So we've got a lot to catch up on.

01:02:25.000 I'm talking about 10 years of my life stolen from me.

01:02:29.000 So that's why it's just a fire hose every single day of media coverage because really, when you think about it, it's 10 years.

01:02:37.000 I'm playing catch up right now for 10 years of stolen potential.

01:02:42.000 Let's go ahead and play the Loomer derangement stinger.

01:02:47.000 So far, who Trump has listened to is Laura Laura Loomer.

01:02:50.000 I have concerns about her rhetoric, the problem with getting all your information from Laura Loomer.

01:02:54.000 Laura Loomer came in and rooted out leaders within the National Security Council.

01:02:58.000 In a second administration, you're going to get the Laura Loomers of the world who are in his ear, who are the ones helping run the country.

01:03:05.000 It's terrifying.

01:03:06.000 literally no one who is the equivalent of Laura Loomer on our side I don't think I feel like I can make a new video like that every single week.

01:03:26.000 Before we continue, though, I want to take a moment to thank the sponsor of tonight's episode of Loomer Unleashed, Kirk Elliott Precious Metals.

01:03:33.000 Breaking news: Laura Loomer has been canceled.

01:03:36.000 The president of the United States has refused to take her phone calls as he suspects she is soon to be arrested.

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01:03:50.000 Man, I tell you, I heard, I heard she got canceled.

01:03:52.000 We coming for you, bitch.

01:03:53.000 We coming to your house, Laura Loomer.

01:03:55.000 We fire.

01:03:55.000 We know you, we know where you live.

01:03:57.000 We coming for you right now.

01:03:58.000 We coming for your friends.

01:03:59.000 We come up for your friends' little dogs.

01:04:01.000 Frankly, you know, I hope they throw her away for the rest of her life.

01:04:04.000 I hope she dies.

01:04:06.000 She is currently on the run from authorities.

01:04:08.000 She is described as armed and dangerous.

01:04:10.000 I just can't believe she's been getting away with it for this.

01:04:12.000 An angry mob appears to be forming outside the home of journalist Laura Loomer.

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01:05:49.000 We're going to be joined by Roger Stone momentarily, but let's go ahead and get this Washington Post article up because this was his story today that made everybody lose their minds.

01:06:00.000 Inside Laura Loomer's Rise, Obsessive Research, Oval Office Visits.

01:06:05.000 Laura Loomer has leveraged a personality that friends label obsessive and an extreme loyalty to Trump to emerge as a powerful figure in the president's orbit.

01:06:15.000 This is just one of several, I guess you could call them profile pieces that were published today and yesterday.

01:06:23.000 You can scroll down.

01:06:24.000 We're going to go through it.

01:06:28.000 Scroll up a little bit.

01:06:29.000 Let's see.

01:06:30.000 Laura Loomer's application.

01:06:32.000 Scroll down.

01:06:34.000 Laura Loomer's application for a White House press pass has gone unanswered for months.

01:06:39.000 The jobs she said President Trump wanted her to take working for him have never materialized.

01:06:44.000 So this is where people love gaslighting me, right?

01:06:46.000 They say, oh, well, you know, President Trump really wanted you around, Laura, you'd be there.

01:06:50.000 Well, that's the elephant in the room is that the president does want me around and he has hired me on four separate occasions.

01:06:57.000 And if the president didn't want me around, well, you know, I wouldn't have been invited to the White House multiple occasions for several Oval Office visits where I briefed him on, you know, matters of disloyal personnel.

01:07:09.000 So it's kind of interesting to me how, you know, it's been, it's been confirmed and reported on by the media that I have had these positions offered to me and given to me, but they have not materialized because, well, disloyal staffers want to block me because they want to obstruct the wishes of the president and they want To undermine the agenda of the president, and they want to disobey directives from the executive.

01:07:38.000 And yet, there she was in the Oval Office on July 24th, her fourth time hit the White House since Trump returned to office after the president invited her during a recent phone call.

01:07:49.000 Let's get this back on the screen.

01:07:50.000 It was the latest example of the unlikely access that Loomer, a 32-year-old Florida-based MAGA activist and right-wing journalist, has with the world's most powerful ban.

01:08:01.000 Loomer has taken credit for the ouster of several federal employees, including former National Security Advisor Michael Waltz and some on his staff.

01:08:09.000 Vinay Prasad, the Food and Drug Administration's top vaccine regulator, and most recently, Jen Easterly, whose appointment to the faculty at West Point was rescinded last week.

01:08:20.000 Her posts on social media have preceded other high-profile decisions, including the order ending Hunter Biden's Secret Service detail, which came after Loomer reported that he was being accompanied by agents on a trip to South Africa this spring.

01:08:33.000 So, you know, to the author of this article's credit, they actually admitted that I got Hunter Biden's Secret Service detail revoked.

01:08:47.000 I think it's the first time, aside from the New York Post, attributing this to me.

01:08:52.000 And again, it's just an example of how I constantly break stories, massive stories that have massive implications for national security, massive stories that, you know, save the taxpayers millions of dollars.

01:09:04.000 I mean, look, by getting Hunter Biden and Ashley Biden's Secret Service detail revoked, I've saved the taxpayers over $25 million.

01:09:11.000 That's a fact.

01:09:13.000 I've saved them over $25 million.

01:09:15.000 That's not to even mention the millions of dollars in contracts that I got canceled at the Department of Defense and the Navy or NIH as it relates to animal testing.

01:09:24.000 So I've saved the American people, American taxpayers, millions of dollars.

01:09:29.000 I've broken massive stories, but they never want to give me credit for it.

01:09:33.000 They finally admitted it here.

01:09:34.000 The first time I've ever seen the media give me credit for being the person that got Trump to revoke Hunter Biden's Secret Service detail.

01:09:43.000 But they always like to say, oh, you know, conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer, right-wing activist Laura Loomer, far-right activist Laura Loomer.

01:09:51.000 Well, how about damned good investigative journalist Laura Loomer?

01:09:56.000 I don't know.

01:09:56.000 You know, I just don't know why they refuse to talk about my background or my skill set.

01:10:05.000 The fact that I finished college, graduated college as valedictorian, had a 4.0 GPA at the highest GPA out of my entire graduating class.

01:10:14.000 Never attended a single college party.

01:10:18.000 Excelled academically, excelled professionally.

01:10:24.000 And if there's one person who knows me better than anybody, aside from James O'Keefe, who has been there since day one and knew me when I was a 19-year-old college student and has seen me progress over, you know, the last 12 years of my life, going from the president of College Republicans to being banned to doing my activism.

01:10:47.000 He was really there.

01:10:48.000 He was really one of the inspirations to me launching my sensational Loomered videos, the act of confronting politicians and live streaming it.

01:10:56.000 If there's one person who was there from the beginning, who has seen it all, who can vouch for every single thing that I'm saying, and coincidentally, this same person happens to be one of President Trump's most trusted advisors and one of his closest friends, it's my friend, my mentor, and political icon, Roger Stone, who joins me now live on Loomer Unleashed.

01:11:20.000 Roger, nice to have you on the program tonight.

01:11:23.000 You're looking almost as tan as I am this evening.

01:11:27.000 Laura, it's great to be with you.

01:11:28.000 I like to tell people I knew you when you were a blonde.

01:11:31.000 When I met you, you were working for James O'Keefe.

01:11:34.000 You were a blonde, and we were blowing Clinton rape whistles together, as I recall.

01:11:41.000 Yeah, that photo is online too.

01:11:43.000 You're absolutely right.

01:11:45.000 And, you know, Roger, people always ask me and they've asked me a lot over the last several years.

01:11:50.000 And you know this because you've, you know, been with me through it all from, you know, when I first launched my career, when I first became the president of College Republicans, from my time working with Project Veritas and James O'Keefe to when I left Project Veritas and launched my own media company, to the time that I was working with InfoWars.

01:12:09.000 I mean, every step of my career to the time when I decided to run for Congress two times and you were one of my campaign advisors.

01:12:18.000 I mean, you've seen it from the beginning.

01:12:20.000 And so I thought that as somebody who's been my mentor and as somebody who has really been there since the beginning, it'd be great to have you on tonight, especially because there's nobody better than you to come on and talk about the political history of Donald Trump and really who's been there since the beginning, because you were the first person to really tell President Trump to run for president.

01:12:42.000 And we're not talking about 2015.

01:12:45.000 We're talking about, you know, his political activities in the 70s and the 80s.

01:12:50.000 And you've known President Trump for over 45 years.

01:12:53.000 And so I wanted people to hear it from you because I'm sure you've seen the media today has just been on a tirade.

01:13:00.000 The front page of Drudge this morning was talking about the rise of Laura Loomer's political influence.

01:13:06.000 The Washington Post had a profile pieced out.

01:13:08.000 Semaphore had a profile out.

01:13:10.000 The New York Times had a profile out.

01:13:12.000 I mean, every single major publication today had a profile out.

01:13:15.000 And so I wanted you to come on to set the record straight so that we could respond to this frenzy together because you are also somebody who has played a massive role in the political history of our country over these last, not just 10 years, but your entire political career, your entire life.

01:13:34.000 And oftentimes, even that is taken away from you.

01:13:41.000 Well, Laura, everything you say is true.

01:13:43.000 I mean, you are, you're relentless.

01:13:45.000 You're indefatigable.

01:13:47.000 You are unsurpassed in terms of your loyalty to the president.

01:13:51.000 You were with him from the very beginning.

01:13:53.000 You ran twice for Congress as a Trump supporting Republican.

01:13:58.000 And it does kind of tickle me to see all of these fake news media outlets flipping out.

01:14:05.000 You know, I remember back when both of us were essentially completely and totally banned, being for life on Twitter, being for life on Facebook, being for life on Instagram, being for life on YouTube.

01:14:18.000 And through it all, you have persevered.

01:14:20.000 We don't always agree.

01:14:21.000 We disagree sometimes.

01:14:22.000 You always know when I disagree with you because you're always accessible.

01:14:26.000 But look, my hat's off to you because you are intensely loyal to this president.

01:14:33.000 This is the most consequential presidency in my lifetime.

01:14:37.000 And even if Trump had not made the greatest comeback in American political history, against all odds, his first term would have already put him among the pantheon of greatest presidents.

01:14:49.000 And now, look what he's done.

01:14:51.000 All of the so-called economic experts said that his fight for better trade deals, better tariff deals with our trading partners were going to cause rampant inflation, out-of-control unemployment.

01:15:05.000 The stock market would crash.

01:15:07.000 It's the same nonsense we heard in his first term.

01:15:10.000 Yet you see that we have a record low on inflation, record low inflation.

01:15:17.000 Unemployment remains low.

01:15:19.000 The dollar remains strong.

01:15:20.000 We had a record Dow.

01:15:22.000 So once again, the experts are wrong.

01:15:25.000 Donald Trump is right.

01:15:27.000 And for the first, in the month of June, for the first time in 15 years, we actually had a surplus.

01:15:33.000 This is because of the enormous revenue revenues Donald Trump is bringing in based on his economic plan.

01:15:39.000 So he's got a brilliant team in Scott Bessant, the Secretary of the Treasury, Howard Luttnick, the Secretary of Commerce, Bill Pulte over at the Federal Housing Finance Agency.

01:15:52.000 He's got an all-star team, whether it's Robert Kennedy, whether it's Toshi Gabrier, whether it's Marco Rubio, who has impressed me incredibly in the job he's done of carrying out the Trump mandate.

01:16:04.000 This is an all-star team.

01:16:06.000 And I really do think we're headed to a golden age.

01:16:09.000 And Laura, you were there from the very beginning of that, there is no doubt.

01:16:15.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:16:16.000 And I appreciate you saying that.

01:16:18.000 And, you know, it's been an interesting last 10 years because as you said, you know, we've gone through this together.

01:16:25.000 I was at your house the day that you were raided by the FBI.

01:16:28.000 I was with you the night that President Trump pardoned you.

01:16:31.000 I was with you and your family on Christmas Eve and the president called you to give you the news.

01:16:37.000 We were together the night that I was permanently banned from Twitter, if you recall.

01:16:42.000 We were having dinner with my father about to celebrate Thanksgiving dinner together.

01:16:47.000 And so as somebody who has been, I guess, victimized by the deep state and also by big tech and the mainstream media and their efforts to digitally exterminate you, despite the fact that you and I are probably the most the two most politically astute individuals.

01:17:03.000 And I will say this, you know, people are going to say, oh, stop tooting your own horn.

01:17:07.000 But I would say that nobody has had a better political track record over these last 10 years about what's going to happen politically speaking in our country than you and me.

01:17:16.000 And both you and I have been relentlessly attacked for it.

01:17:19.000 I can't think of anybody else.

01:17:21.000 Can you?

01:17:21.000 I cannot think of two other people who have been more spot on politically over the last 10 years than you and I. Well, let's be very specific about this because I remember it extremely well.

01:17:32.000 I think you and I were among the first people, if not the first people, to recognize the governor Ron DeSantis, who owes his entire rise in politics.

01:17:41.000 Donald Trump lifted him out of obscurity, catapulted him to the Florida Republican nomination for the governorship.

01:17:48.000 And then Ron was such a piss poor candidate.

01:17:51.000 Donald Trump had to change his schedule three times in the final two weeks of the 2018 campaign to literally drag him over the finish line.

01:17:59.000 He won by 25,000 votes out of 8.9 million cast.

01:18:04.000 But you and I, I think, were the first two people to accurately predict that he would repay that loyalty.

01:18:10.000 He would repay that patronage by plunging a knife in President Donald Trump's back and challenging for the nomination.

01:18:18.000 We were ridiculed.

01:18:20.000 People kept saying, oh, stop dividing.

01:18:22.000 You're dividing us.

01:18:23.000 He's not running.

01:18:23.000 Stop dividing us.

01:18:25.000 No, we were right about that.

01:18:26.000 And I'm not so quick to forget because he's one of Stone's most important rules.

01:18:31.000 A person who will stab you in the back once will stab you in the back again.

01:18:35.000 Ron DeSantis would be managing a McDonald's somewhere outside of Orlando right now, if it weren't for Donald Trump.

01:18:42.000 And he's repaid that patronage, that trust in him with nothing but treachery.

01:18:50.000 And no, I'm not going to stop saying it because it's true.

01:18:53.000 You said something that I completely agree with.

01:18:57.000 And it's really at the core of what I believe and why I do what I do.

01:19:00.000 A person who will stab you in the back once will stab you in the back again.

01:19:05.000 And that's the whole basis of the Laura Loomer vetting tip line, right?

01:19:10.000 That's the whole basis of the whole reason why, the whole motivation behind why I decided to launch the Loomer loyalty tip line on my website.

01:19:18.000 The media is now freaking out.

01:19:20.000 And we can go through all of these different news clips and I'm going to play some of them and have you react to them tonight, Roger.

01:19:25.000 But that's what people need to understand.

01:19:28.000 Somebody who will stab you in the back once will stab you in the back again.

01:19:32.000 And they will do it a third time and a fourth time until you're bleeding on the ground and you have nothing else to give.

01:19:37.000 And we saw it happen in 2016.

01:19:41.000 We saw it happen in 2020.

01:19:43.000 We saw it happen in 2024.

01:19:46.000 And over my dead body, am I going to allow it to happen until 2028 again?

01:19:50.000 I'm not going to allow for these people who stabbed the president in the back to find their way back into the Trump administration or people who have been disloyal to the president to get another chance to shive him or to completely undermine him, which is what we saw take place on a daily basis, Roger, during the first Trump administration.

01:20:07.000 It's one of the reasons why he was completely undermined, why people like yourself and General Flynn had their entire lives destroyed is because of a lack of vetting.

01:20:16.000 If there would have actually been proper vetting systems set up during the first Trump administration, the Russia collusion hoax never would have happened.

01:20:23.000 The first impeachment never would have happened.

01:20:25.000 The second impeachment never would have happened.

01:20:28.000 And so I wanted to get your thoughts on that because there's so much outrage from the left and the right about, oh, why does Laura Loomer have the influence that she has to vet these people?

01:20:37.000 And why does she think that there needs to be loyalty proclamations made to the president of the United States?

01:20:44.000 Why wouldn't there be proclamations of loyalty made to the commander in chief?

01:20:48.000 I mean, am I crazy for thinking this?

01:20:50.000 No, actually, so when I went to the Republican National Convention, you know, I saw the former White House chief of staff and former National Party chairman Reince Priebus.

01:20:59.000 Now, Reince Priebus recommended Rod Rosenstein to be the number two man at the U.S. Justice Department.

01:21:06.000 And it was Rod Rosenstein, who we now know, offered to wear a wire to try to entrap President Donald Trump in an effort to remove him as president under the 25th Amendment.

01:21:17.000 It was Rod Rosenstein, who testified before the Senate saying that he never authorized the investigation into me, yet I have the actual document on October 20th, 2017, where he signed to authorize that investigation.

01:21:33.000 But this was three weeks after it was clear that Robert Mueller knew there was no Russian collusion, knew the whole thing was a hoax.

01:21:42.000 So I think it's a graphic example of why it's vitally important that the president surround himself with trustworthy people.

01:21:50.000 And if you look at his cabinet, he is doing that.

01:21:54.000 We are always going to have these Republicans who try to come late and say, oh, I was always a Trump supporter when they weren't Trump supporters.

01:22:03.000 And the great irony, of course, the first term was that despite the fact that you had people like H.R. McMaster and General John Kelly and other Quizlings who thought that their job was to save the country from Donald Trump rather than carry out the president's vision for the country, he still emerged with a record strong economy.

01:22:27.000 He still emerged rebuilding our military strength.

01:22:31.000 He still avoided foreign wars, the first president in our lifetime to do so in modern days.

01:22:39.000 He still appointed scores of conservatives to the federal bench.

01:22:44.000 And in a very strange way, I actually think that because of his four years in the wilderness and because of the horrific tsunami of lawfare that they put him through, all it did was battle harden him.

01:22:58.000 All it did was make him tougher, wiser, and more ready for what is now going to be the most consequential presidency in our lifetimes.

01:23:07.000 This is a different Donald Trump in a way.

01:23:10.000 He's tougher.

01:23:11.000 He's always been tough, but he's tougher than ever before.

01:23:14.000 Look, they tried to kill him, not once, but twice.

01:23:17.000 They tried to keep him off the ballot.

01:23:19.000 They tried to bankrupt him.

01:23:21.000 They tried to throw him in jail, yet he still kept coming.

01:23:25.000 Is that relentlessness, that determination, that grit, that stamina that I so admire him?

01:23:34.000 It's what I saw in 1988 when I first suggested that he should run for president.

01:23:38.000 I saw very early that he had the size.

01:23:41.000 I don't mean the physical size, but the stature, the independence, the ability to think outside the box, the courage, the energy.

01:23:50.000 I don't know when he sleeps.

01:23:51.000 He sleeps even less than you do, Laura, and you don't get much sleep.

01:23:55.000 Well, you don't sleep either.

01:23:57.000 You're like my 3 a.m. texting buddy.

01:24:00.000 Roger, Roger, and I will text each other at 3 o'clock or 4 o'clock in the morning and have hour-long conversations because we both have insomnia.

01:24:07.000 But yes, we've been 4 a.m. texting buddies for a long time.

01:24:12.000 But yeah, that's true.

01:24:13.000 The president does have an incredible amount of stamina.

01:24:16.000 He has more energy than most people I know.

01:24:18.000 And I don't know how he does it.

01:24:20.000 I mean, even on the campaign trail, occasionally in the few times that I was traveling with him, and you've seen this too, he'll do like four campaign rallies in one day in different time zones.

01:24:29.000 I mean, it's incredible.

01:24:30.000 And then he still has energy to watch the UFC fight and eat some McDonald's while flying home, right?

01:24:35.000 So I've never seen anybody who has that much energy.

01:24:39.000 And I don't think I've ever, ever seen the president close his eyes or rest his eyes or, you know, even display for one second that he's tired or complain about being tired.

01:24:49.000 I've never heard him complain once about being tired or being exhausted.

01:24:54.000 And if anybody has an excuse to be exhausted, it's President Trump.

01:24:57.000 But you're absolutely right, Roger.

01:24:59.000 I do think that in the first term, there really wasn't much room, given the people and the snakes and the advisors who surrounded President Trump for there to be proper feedback as it related to vetting.

01:25:14.000 You would see like whisper campaigns online, but nothing was really ever acted upon, right?

01:25:20.000 Like people did get fired, but treacherous people were still able to remain up until the very end of the first term.

01:25:27.000 But what I really appreciate about, what I really appreciate about Donald Trump is that now, right, he's receptive to this information.

01:25:35.000 He takes this information.

01:25:37.000 I saw you at the White House last week.

01:25:39.000 You and I ran into each other during my meeting with President Trump.

01:25:43.000 You were at the White House as well.

01:25:45.000 And the president now actually has his closest friends and his advisors and the most trusted people who actually have been there since day one present to give him information.

01:25:55.000 And I'm not saying that I dictate what Trump does.

01:25:59.000 You certainly don't dictate what Trump does.

01:26:01.000 But would you or would you not agree that he's a lot more receptive, it seems like this term to actually hear out the information about people who surround him who may be working against him?

01:26:13.000 Well, in all fairness, he was elected president coming from the world of business.

01:26:17.000 It's not unreasonable for him to think that, well, there's the Republicans and there's the Democrats.

01:26:22.000 The Democrats are against me.

01:26:24.000 The Republicans will be with me because I won their nomination so sweepingly.

01:26:29.000 And I think that he thought that just because someone had an R after their name meant that they were a good person.

01:26:35.000 Eight years, four years in the wilderness, I think, altered his view.

01:26:39.000 And I think today he's more skeptical.

01:26:41.000 But I also think he's got a much, much better White House staff.

01:26:45.000 I think Susie Wiles is an amazing woman.

01:26:48.000 I think she does an amazing job.

01:26:50.000 I think she was the glue that kept his presidential campaign together.

01:26:54.000 And I'm sick of arguing with people about this on the internet who don't know anything.

01:26:59.000 She does an amazing job for him because she understands that her job is to carry out the president's vision, the president's plan.

01:27:06.000 He's the boss.

01:27:07.000 She does an excellent job in my regard.

01:27:09.000 I'm sick of people unfairly and falsely accusing her of all kinds of nonsense.

01:27:14.000 No, she's not in the World Economic Forum.

01:27:17.000 No, she was not a lobbyist for Pfizer.

01:27:20.000 This is all nonsensical.

01:27:22.000 But these people are, I think, jealous in many ways.

01:27:26.000 When it comes to a presidential.

01:27:27.000 I think they're jealous too.

01:27:28.000 I mean, I get sick of what they say about Susie because they'll constantly say things like, oh, Susie Wiles is a deep state operative there to sabotage Trump.

01:27:36.000 If she was a deep state operative there to sabotage Trump, why did Donald Trump have a MAGA mandate and win the presidential election and a blowout?

01:27:44.000 I mean, really, honestly, think about it.

01:27:46.000 If Susie Wiles was truly some kind of operative there to sabotage MAGA and sabotage Trump, why was Trump allowed to win the election?

01:27:54.000 Why did Trump survive the assassination attempts, right?

01:27:56.000 Plural.

01:27:57.000 So I'm sick of it.

01:27:58.000 I like Susie Wiles.

01:27:59.000 I respect Susie Wiles.

01:28:01.000 And Susie Wiles is one of the main people who is receptive to this information.

01:28:06.000 And so do people honestly think that people like you and I would be able to get into the White House if Susie Wiles was some kind of a deep state operative and she didn't want President Trump seeing this information?

01:28:16.000 I mean, do they honestly think that we're stupid?

01:28:19.000 So I'm sick of people commenting on my posts saying things like, oh, go investigate Susie Wiles.

01:28:24.000 No, I'm not going to investigate Susie Wiles.

01:28:26.000 Susie's doing a phenomenal job.

01:28:28.000 And, you know, there's a lot of people in the peanut gallery that want to constantly impose their opinion and what they think they're seeing from the outside.

01:28:36.000 They have no idea what they're talking about.

01:28:38.000 They have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.

01:28:41.000 No, look, I'm a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns going all the way back to Richard Nixon, three campaigns for the great Ronald Reagan.

01:28:50.000 I think that the 2024 presidential campaign of Donald Trump was the greatest political campaign in Republican Party history.

01:28:59.000 This is an all-star team.

01:29:00.000 Susie Wiles, Chris La Cevita, Tony Fabrizio, without question, the most incisive, toughest, best survey researcher in the party today.

01:29:09.000 This was an all-star campaign.

01:29:11.000 Be constantly being second-guessed by people, all of whom turned out to be wrong.

01:29:16.000 So the results are in the incredible victory.

01:29:19.000 Winning every swing state, winning the national popular vote, which the pundits told us was impossible.

01:29:26.000 And now I think you see an excellent White House staff carrying out the president's wishes.

01:29:32.000 So I get tired of it.

01:29:34.000 I've known Susie Wiles all the way back to when we both worked for Ronald Reagan.

01:29:38.000 And it's interesting if you look at it historically, in every election, she's been with the outsider.

01:29:44.000 She could have gone to work for Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio.

01:29:49.000 She chose to work for Donald Trump in 2016.

01:29:52.000 She could have worked for George H.W. Bush.

01:29:56.000 She chose to work for Jack Kemp in 1988.

01:29:59.000 She could have worked for George H.W. Bush in 1980, she chose to work for Ronald Reagan.

01:30:04.000 Rick Scott was an outsider when he was elected governor of the state, but she helped get him across the finish line in a very tough race.

01:30:14.000 And of course, I frankly think that she's very much responsible for the victory of Ron DeSantis.

01:30:20.000 Ron DeSantis' nomination was kind of a media-fueled phenomena based on Fox and talk radio.

01:30:29.000 And of course, the Trump endorsement, which is what propelled him.

01:30:32.000 Well, I would say that it was a Trump-fueled phenomenon.

01:30:35.000 He wouldn't have been able to get any of that leverage if it hadn't been for President Trump endorsing him over Adam Putnam at the very last minute.

01:30:42.000 So if he owes anybody anything, it is.

01:30:45.000 It's interesting that you say this, right?

01:30:46.000 It's Trump and it's Susie, which is, it just adds to how treacherous Ron DeSantis is for what he ended up doing to Susie, trying to destroy her reputation and force her out of GOP politics in the state of Florida, he and his wife.

01:31:00.000 And so it was really nice to see Susie awarded the Florida Statesman, or I guess you could say the Florida Stateswoman Award the other evening at the Florida GOP Awards Gala, where she was proclaimed to be the most powerful woman in the world by President Donald Trump.

01:31:20.000 And she described 2024 as the most impressive and most amazing and the biggest political comeback in United States history.

01:31:28.000 So I think that there's a lot of people out there who have no idea what they're talking about.

01:31:34.000 And most of these people who have no idea what they're talking about are a lot of these mainstream media pundits who, you know, they want to criticize me.

01:31:41.000 They want to criticize you.

01:31:42.000 They want to criticize Susie.

01:31:44.000 They want to criticize the people who have actually stood by President Trump the longest, and yet they constantly run cover for the people that are throwing knives at Trump and undermining him left and right.

01:31:55.000 And my theory about this is the reason why the people in the mainstream media and bad actors who surround President Trump are so terrified about the Loomer hotline, the Loomer tip line for disloyal staffers is because that's going to chip away at their profit margins.

01:32:13.000 Think about it.

01:32:14.000 The mainstream media says that I'm a villain.

01:32:18.000 I'm like Trump's Rasputin.

01:32:19.000 There was actually a news article out today that said that Laura Loomer is like Trump's Rasputin because I'm taking so-called anonymous tips or anonymous sources on a tip line.

01:32:29.000 But isn't that what the mainstream media does, Roger?

01:32:31.000 Every single story is anonymous sources.

01:32:35.000 So this puts them out of business because if we successfully root out all of the disloyal Trump officials or disloyal staff who want to undermine Donald Trump, who is going to be remaining within the Trump administration to serve as a so-called anonymous source or leaker?

01:32:53.000 Perhaps you can comment on that.

01:32:54.000 But that's my theory.

01:32:55.000 That's why I think that they're so triggered by this, because we're about to root out, or I'm about to root out with my vetting operation, all of their sources.

01:33:05.000 I think that's part of their hysteria.

01:33:08.000 One other point I want to make, and that is a lot of Republicans across the country have contacted me in the last couple of days to ask about Senator Joe Gruters, who is clearly, I think, being designated by the president to assume leadership of the Republican National Committee.

01:33:25.000 I'm a strong supporter of Joe Gruters.

01:33:27.000 I think he'll do a great job in that position.

01:33:29.000 Here in Florida, he stood up to a sitting governor to fully support Donald Trump to actually go into the state committee and defeat this loyalty oath, which was kind of a trap that they tried to set for the president.

01:33:46.000 Joe Gruters will do an excellent job as national chairman.

01:33:49.000 He's an excellent choice, and he can absolutely be trusted as being 100% loyal to the president.

01:33:55.000 Why?

01:33:56.000 Because he's proven it right here in the Sunshine State again and again.

01:34:00.000 Absolutely.

01:34:01.000 I fully endorse Joe Gruters as well to be RNC chairman, and he has my full support.

01:34:05.000 I've known Joe Gruters for a very long time, for I think at least eight years.

01:34:10.000 I met him when I ran for Congress.

01:34:12.000 He was one of the only Florida lawmakers at the time to meet with me when I first launched my initial campaign for Congress in 2019.

01:34:20.000 He stood up for me at a press conference when I was the only candidate, the first in the nation to be deplatformed on all social media.

01:34:27.000 And he was one of the only state lawmakers to actually stand up against Ron DeSantis'illegal efforts to remove the resigned to run law or to modify the resigned to run law so that he could take a salary as the governor of Florida while also running a full time presidential campaign as an absentee governor.

01:34:50.000 And illegally transfer nearly $85 million of Trump PAC money over to his president.

01:34:58.000 presidential PAC.

01:35:00.000 That was Trump donor money intended to be used for Ron DeSantis' 2022 gubernatorial reelection run.

01:35:06.000 And Joe Gruters was one of the only people who stood up against it.

01:35:09.000 And as a result, President Trump was demonized by Ron DeSantis and Ron DeSantis decided to personally attack Joe Gruters by docking his appropriations in the state budget for his district during hurricane season of all time.

01:35:24.000 So in an area where a lot of Joe Gruiters, his constituents, you know, needed hurricane relief money.

01:35:32.000 So I think it's important for people to remember this and the type of humiliation and attacks that Joe Gruiters personally faced and the way that he was attacked and punished financially and the way that Ron DeSantis and the rhinos in the state of Florida tried to actually take financial retribution against innocent Florida citizens simply because their state representative, Joe Gruiters, decided to stand with Trump over Ron DeSantis.

01:35:55.000 That's all true.

01:35:56.000 I think it's important.

01:35:56.000 You raise a very important point.

01:35:58.000 So previously under Florida state law, if you were in a state office and you chose to run for federal office, you had to resign the state office.

01:36:08.000 They amended this law, but it only applies to the presidency.

01:36:11.000 So if you were in, say, the state senate, you wanted to run for Congress, well, you still have to resign.

01:36:16.000 But so they cut out an exception just for running for president was designed specifically for Ron DeSantis so he could remain as governor while running for president and so that he could leverage his position as governor to raise millions of dollars from the special interests and the lobbyists and the insurance industry and the gambling industry and the utility industry and so on.

01:36:39.000 Because let's face it, nobody gave money to Ron DeSantis because they liked him.

01:36:43.000 They either gave to him because they hated Donald Trump or because they were leveraged by the fact that you had a heavy-handed governor who would punish you if you did not give.

01:36:53.000 What did we get here in Florida?

01:36:55.000 The highest insurance rates in the country, the highest utility rates in the country.

01:37:00.000 Two examples off the top of my head.

01:37:03.000 So this upcoming governor's race is going to be extremely interesting.

01:37:08.000 I am strongly supporting Byron Donalds.

01:37:10.000 I think he's the right man for the job.

01:37:12.000 I really kind of doubt at this point that Casey DeSantis will run.

01:37:17.000 I think if she does run, I think Byron will beat her like a drum.

01:37:22.000 But I think this recent scandal in which the governor and his wife misappropriated $10 million in Medicare money and moving it from a program for the poor, the disabled, and the elderly to a dark money pack where they then used it for their political purposes.

01:37:43.000 I really think that is the end of the DeSantis dynasty, frankly.

01:37:48.000 I'd say so too.

01:37:49.000 And you don't really hear a lot of rumblings from the gator heads, as I like to call them on X anymore, because I think also these people are starting to internalize the fact that Ron DeSantis is done and Casey DeSantis has done too.

01:38:02.000 So it'll be interesting to see what happens next because we know that Ron DeSantis doesn't have a home.

01:38:06.000 He doesn't have a car.

01:38:07.000 Really, he doesn't have any property or any assets.

01:38:10.000 And so who knows what Ron DeSantis is going to do unless he's offered some kind of a position within the Trump administration.

01:38:18.000 I know that there were discussions taking place about if Pam Bondi had been removed, that she would be replaced by Ron DeSantis.

01:38:26.000 But it looks like, you know, Pam Bondi is not going to be removed.

01:38:29.000 And so my question to you is, what do you think is in Ron DeSantis' future?

01:38:34.000 Where do you think he's going to go?

01:38:36.000 Do you think he's going to serve on the board of some defense company?

01:38:39.000 What do you think Ron DeSantis is going to be doing when he has to vacate the governor's mansion, which as we know, as far as I know, is the only property that he really occupies because he doesn't own a house and he doesn't own a car.

01:38:52.000 Where is he going to go?

01:38:54.000 He seems very much to me like a man without a plan.

01:38:56.000 I mean, look, we have, we had an open Senate seat that was vacated when Marco Rubio stepped down.

01:39:04.000 The governor could have appointed a placeholder and then run for that seat.

01:39:09.000 Remember, he wanted to run for the U.S. Senate before he ran for governor.

01:39:12.000 So he can't say he's not interested in being a U.S. Senator.

01:39:16.000 If he really is serious about a role in national politics, why doesn't he run for that seat?

01:39:20.000 Instead, we have Minnie Mouse running for the seat, the Attorney General, Ashley Moody, who supported Ron DeSantis over President Donald Trump.

01:39:31.000 I think she's an incredibly weak candidate, in all honesty.

01:39:35.000 And my concern, in all trying to look down the road, is, and I don't think this is necessarily by any means certain, but if we should not hold the House, and I think we will hold the House, but if we should not hold.

01:39:46.000 You think that we're going to hold the House.

01:39:48.000 Yes, I do.

01:39:49.000 First of all, I don't know.

01:39:50.000 This is one of the only times I think I've ever disagreed with you.

01:39:53.000 I think I've always agreed with you.

01:39:55.000 Well, I mean, we don't agree on everything.

01:39:57.000 I mean, we get into little spats sometimes on X because some of your friends are not my friends.

01:40:01.000 But I love you and I respect you.

01:40:03.000 So you're one of the few people who I actually will get on the phone with and I'll be like, tell me why you think this.

01:40:08.000 But no, I honestly, I don't know.

01:40:09.000 I can't really confidently say that we're going to that we're going to keep the house.

01:40:13.000 I would like us to keep the house, but this may be one of the only times that I'm going to like disagree with you on air because I don't think the Republican Party is doing enough right now to mobilize and motivate the GOP base to turn out and vote in the midterms.

01:40:28.000 Donald Trump is not at the top of the ticket this time around.

01:40:32.000 First of all, anybody with deep experience in politics would know that you couldn't possibly make an accurate prediction of the outcome of the midterm elections when we're not even a year into the president's, the first year of his term.

01:40:44.000 So it's much too early to say.

01:40:46.000 I was very heartened today to see that Pam Bondi is moving to impanel a grand jury and put in front of it the evidence of the Russian collusion hoax, which is a seditious conspiracy and I think treasonous.

01:41:00.000 We only know this thanks to the courage of Tulsi Gabber and the declassification process that she's played as the director of national intelligence and some of the early reports from CIA Director John Ratcliffe, who I think did a more shallow but still very meaningful dissection of the role of former CIA director John Brennan.

01:41:26.000 So now, even though the mainstream media tries to pretend that none of this happened or that this is inconclusive or this is just opinion, no, actually we have hard, cold facts, more than enough to go to a grand jury.

01:41:39.000 I was very pleased to hear that the Attorney General is pursuing exactly that path.

01:41:45.000 So I think it is too early to say.

01:41:47.000 Now, should we not hold people responsible?

01:41:51.000 Should these people get away with what they have done?

01:41:54.000 Then yes, I agree.

01:41:55.000 Our base would not be energized and some Trump supporters might not show up, but it's much, much too early to determine whether we are going to hold the House or not.

01:42:04.000 I still think it is more than possible.

01:42:07.000 But let's say that we don't, just for the sake of discussion.

01:42:11.000 Well, then you need Republican U.S. senators who will stand tall for Donald Trump because we both know they will try illegitimately once again to try to impeach him over some newly concocted horseshit.

01:42:23.000 And there are some Republicans that I know cannot be counted on.

01:42:27.000 So I think it is important to have Senate candidates in this next cycle.

01:42:31.000 Some Republicans, Roger.

01:42:33.000 Let's be honest, most Republicans.

01:42:37.000 It's not some.

01:42:38.000 It's most.

01:42:39.000 We all know most of these people in the Senate don't like the president.

01:42:42.000 Most of them cannot be trusted.

01:42:44.000 I mean, let's be honest.

01:42:45.000 They cannot be trusted.

01:42:46.000 I do think it's important for the president to take a scalp in the primaries to demonstrate that he is the leader of the party and that the party has changed.

01:42:56.000 Let me tell you something.

01:42:57.000 Most of the senators didn't like Ronald Reagan either, but they had to support him because he was so popular.

01:43:03.000 And so it is with President Donald Trump.

01:43:05.000 And a Republican senator like, say, Tom Tillis of North Carolina, who decides to vote against the president's nominees.

01:43:12.000 You know why he retired, Laura?

01:43:14.000 Because he would have been beaten in a primary because of that vote.

01:43:17.000 That's why he packed it in.

01:43:19.000 It's so funny you mentioned Tom Tillis because we can go ahead and get this semaphore article pulled up.

01:43:24.000 So Tom Tillis is a douchebag.

01:43:26.000 We all know this.

01:43:27.000 He was censured by his own party, if you recall, the Republican Party in North Carolina, because he voted against President Trump's President Trump's, well, he voted against funding President Trump's border wall.

01:43:43.000 Really, this was dating back all the way to the first term.

01:43:45.000 So he voted against the funding for President Trump's border wall.

01:43:48.000 He supported sending billions of dollars of aid to Ukraine.

01:43:52.000 He was weak on transgender issues.

01:43:55.000 He was weak on issues regarding the Second Amendment and weak on issues about gun control.

01:44:03.000 He's a coward.

01:44:05.000 He has always been a full-blown Trump hater.

01:44:09.000 He decided to take shots at me when President Trump invited me to the debate, if you were call, and he learned really, you know, he learned the hard way that tussling with me never ends well.

01:44:18.000 I mean, if you're going to, if you're going to come for me, you best not miss because I will cut you.

01:44:22.000 You know, I'm not, I'm not saying that I'm going to physically cut Tom Tillis, but I will go for your jugular and then I will fucking curb stomp you on the ground and make sure that you don't get up.

01:44:33.000 And that's what I did to Tom Tillis.

01:44:36.000 And Tom Tillis tried to sneak in, you know, legislation within the Big Beautiful Bill, a bill that he wasn't even planning on voting for, and he didn't vote for in the end, to try to eliminate the litigation finance industry.

01:44:53.000 And he was hoping that nobody was going to notice this, right?

01:44:56.000 Because it was in the middle of the conflict with Iran.

01:44:58.000 And I exposed it and I identified it.

01:45:01.000 And then President Trump started taking shots at him.

01:45:04.000 And Tom Tillis had to literally announce his retirement on his anniversary.

01:45:11.000 Instead of celebrating his anniversary with his wife, he had to issue a concession message online saying that he would be retiring because he wanted to spend more time with his wife.

01:45:22.000 No, Tom, that's not the reason why you're retiring from the United States Senate.

01:45:26.000 You're retiring because you're a pussy and you're a Trump hater and Donald Trump kicked your ass and he humiliated you and you would have been dragged through the mud and completely fucked up in a primary, Tom.

01:45:37.000 That's why you decided not to run.

01:45:40.000 So let's pull out this article here because I want to get your thoughts on this.

01:45:44.000 I mean, I cannot stand Tom Tillis.

01:45:47.000 If there's two people in the Senate who I absolutely hate, it's Lindsey Graham and it's Tom Tillis.

01:45:51.000 I can't stand these guys.

01:45:53.000 They tried to take cheap shots at President Trump and me when President Trump invited me to the presidential debate.

01:45:59.000 And I just think these people need to be absolutely politically curb stomped.

01:46:04.000 I hope Lindsey Graham loses his reelection.

01:46:07.000 You can scroll down and see the comments here.

01:46:11.000 Let's scroll down, talking about how Trump fired several national security officials.

01:46:16.000 Let's do a keyword search.

01:46:17.000 Okay, so behind the scenes, some Republicans are impressed with her.

01:46:21.000 Others are dismissive.

01:46:22.000 Senator Tom Tillis from North Carolina likened her to a callus that only appears after the work is done.

01:46:31.000 I mean, how disrespectful.

01:46:34.000 He's basically saying that I don't actually do original work and that I only show up when work has been done.

01:46:40.000 Laura, let me give you a piece of advice, if I may.

01:46:44.000 You need to stop mincing words and tell people how you really feel.

01:46:47.000 You've got to quit holding back and tell people what's really on your mind.

01:46:51.000 I just don't want to go to jail.

01:46:53.000 Like if I told people what was really on my mind about Tom Tillis, I'd probably be in prison.

01:46:58.000 Look, this guy is a worthy successor to Senator Burr from North Carolina, another Trump hater.

01:47:05.000 This is one of the most annoying things ever.

01:47:07.000 The defense that Barack Obama puts forward when he gets busted, cold-busted in the Russian collusion hoax is to say, oh, no, the Senate Intelligence Committee report, which was a bipartisan report, proved that there was Russian collusion.

01:47:23.000 Actually, this is a paste-up of every cockamamie, unproven claim about Donald Trump, cut and paste right out of the Huffington Post, as if these are facts.

01:47:32.000 These are not facts.

01:47:34.000 And that report is a steaming pile of bullshit.

01:47:37.000 And yeah, it was a bipartisan committee.

01:47:40.000 It had three Trump hating Republicans on it at the time.

01:47:43.000 So it has no credibility.

01:47:46.000 I've deconstructed it.

01:47:48.000 You can go to stonezone.com.

01:47:50.000 I actually have a piece in which I say, I think the title is the Senate Intelligence Committee Report is Bunk.

01:47:57.000 Look, I think that justice is coming for these people.

01:48:03.000 I think I did an entire list today.

01:48:06.000 As you know, I do a daily show at WABC Radio.

01:48:09.000 You can hear it at wabcradio.com every evening, five days a week at 8 p.m.

01:48:15.000 You can hear it online if you don't live in the greater New York, New Jersey, Connecticut area.

01:48:21.000 Today, I read a list of everybody, it was a long list, of those who should be charged in the Russian collusion hoax, which is a seditious conspiracy and I think treason.

01:48:31.000 So there's no statute of limitations.

01:48:33.000 And I really believe that Pam Bondi is going to do the right thing.

01:48:37.000 That was essentially announced today.

01:48:40.000 Yeah, I hope she does.

01:48:41.000 My point about Tom Tillis, though, is that, you know, he decided to bow out beforehand, but I wish that we could have just destroyed him during a primary or President Trump could have launched a primary against him like he's doing with Thomas Massey, because these people shouldn't be given the option to just retire early.

01:48:57.000 They need to be publicly humiliated and learn a lesson.

01:49:00.000 And they need to learn a lesson that Donald Trump is leader of the party.

01:49:03.000 Let's continue on the semaphore article because it gets even worse.

01:49:07.000 But he goes, she can say whatever she wants to to get follows or to monetize her following, said Tillis, a past member of GOP leadership's whip team.

01:49:17.000 Yeah, you want to know one of the reasons why Tom Tillis wasn't selected for GOP leadership when he was in the running to become the Senate majority leader.

01:49:27.000 It's because of me.

01:49:28.000 It's because he got completely obliterated by me.

01:49:33.000 And I supported Senator Rick Scott over John Thune.

01:49:36.000 I supported Senator Rick Scott over Tom Tillis.

01:49:39.000 And I completely destroyed Tom Tillis before he could get any momentum.

01:49:45.000 I mean, you could ask Senator Rick Scott.

01:49:47.000 I had a whole Senator Rick Scott's consultants calling me on the phone.

01:49:50.000 It's like that meme from Family Guy, you know, where they're, what is it?

01:49:53.000 Like they're kicking the dog on the ground and it's like, stop, stop.

01:49:57.000 He's already dead.

01:49:58.000 I mean, I was getting so many phone calls from the consultants of the Republican senators who were just like some of them begging me to stop, some of them asking me to keep on going because of the ass whooping that I gave to Tom Tillis.

01:50:16.000 So he should actually come clean about why he doesn't like me.

01:50:19.000 It's because I expose him for who he is.

01:50:21.000 And I'm one of the reasons why he's not going to be running for reelection.

01:50:24.000 Let's go back to this article so you can see what he said because it's just like the absolute hubris of somebody like Tom Tillis.

01:50:32.000 He should never be allowed to show his face in public again.

01:50:37.000 He said, all right, so she can say whatever she wants to to get follows or monetize her following, said Tillis, a past member of GOP leadership whip team, who last month fell out with Trump over his mega bill and is now retiring.

01:50:50.000 She may be getting information, so that lets her get ahead of it.

01:50:54.000 But I doubt seriously she's driving it, he added, because there's a lot of quality people in this administration who I think would have a real problem with that.

01:51:02.000 Actually, I get my own information and I do my own research.

01:51:05.000 One person close to the White House told Semaphore that Loomer is all over too many issues.

01:51:10.000 Yeah, because I am a political savant.

01:51:13.000 And as somebody who has known me since I was 19 years old, Roger, I think you can testify to the fact that when it comes to digging up opposition research and being aware of all the political issues and being able to stay on track on top of and on track of all of these political issues, in a way, I'm a opposition research savant, a political savant.

01:51:35.000 Well, you are certainly relentless.

01:51:37.000 There's no doubt about that.

01:51:38.000 I agree with you, by the way, on Rick Scott.

01:51:40.000 I think he would have been a much better majority leader than the current majority leader.

01:51:45.000 And just now, in all honesty, I have a much greater appreciation of what a great governor he was of Florida compared to the governor we have today.

01:51:53.000 And I also think he is a great future in this party.

01:51:56.000 So I agree with you about that.

01:51:59.000 Look, Tom Tillis took a powder because he would have lost a primary, and he knew that.

01:52:05.000 The chances of beating Lindsey Graham are extraordinarily difficult simply because South Carolina, by long tradition, has an open primary, which means anyone, Republican or Democrat, or of any party or no party at all, can vote in the Republican primary.

01:52:22.000 So you have a dynamic in which Democrats and independents, particularly in the Charleston area, will cross over to vote for The most liberal candidate.

01:52:31.000 That would be Lindsey Graham.

01:52:33.000 You also have the opposition to Lindsey Graham being divided now, I think, by three candidates.

01:52:40.000 I only know one of them who I like, but I think it is the dynamics of the situation are extremely difficult.

01:52:46.000 And of course, the president has a unique friendship with Lindsey Graham that is kind of hard for some of us to understand, but he's endorsed Lindsey Graham.

01:52:54.000 So I think it'll be very tough.

01:52:56.000 Someplace in one of these Senate races, I still think the president has to demonstrate this is his party.

01:53:02.000 He is the leader of the party.

01:53:04.000 And those who don't follow the leader will pay some penalty.

01:53:09.000 Yeah, if you go back to the semaphore article, I'll show you what I said in response to Tom Tillis.

01:53:16.000 I said, why the F should I care about Tillis's assessment?

01:53:20.000 The only easy target I see is Tom Tillis.

01:53:23.000 Such an easy target that he decided to announce his early retirement from the Senate on his anniversary after screwing Trump ahead of the vote on the big beautiful bill instead of actually running for reelection again.

01:53:33.000 He is irrelevant.

01:53:35.000 So, you know, that's my message to all of these people who want to try to undermine Donald Trump.

01:53:40.000 If you think that you're going to get away with being disloyal to Donald Trump and you're going to get away with undermining Donald Trump and you're going to get away with not fulfilling the mandate, the MAGA mandate that the American people voted for in this last election season, we're going to make you irrelevant.

01:53:56.000 And there does have to be this fear factor that exists.

01:54:00.000 People do have to be on their toes and wonder whether or not they're going to be the next target of getting loomered or getting exposed or getting confronted for being disloyal or for undermining the president.

01:54:11.000 Because I truly believe the only way, the only way to make people stay in line is if they are terrified of you.

01:54:20.000 And I think that in this current political landscape, and correct me if you think I'm wrong, I'd love to get your opinion on this.

01:54:27.000 I don't think that there's a lot of Republicans who want to willingly admit that Donald Trump is the Republican Party and Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party.

01:54:37.000 I think that they pretended to believe that in 2024 so that they could get their endorsements and raise their money and they're going to pretend to believe it again ahead of 2026.

01:54:46.000 But I don't think that they actually really believe it.

01:54:49.000 Because if these people truly believed it, we wouldn't have to worry right now about ending the recess early to have a fast track of Senate appointments.

01:54:59.000 That's my personal opinion.

01:55:00.000 That's what I think.

01:55:01.000 I don't actually think that they believe that he's the head of the Republican Party.

01:55:04.000 I say a couple of things.

01:55:05.000 First of all, Trumpism, the MAGA movement, the America First Movement, is so much bigger and more powerful than the Republican Party.

01:55:13.000 Why is it that Donald Trump won when John McCain and Mitt Romney lost?

01:55:18.000 It's because Donald Trump could reach certain voters in key states like Michigan, for example, or Arizona and others that those candidates could not reach.

01:55:30.000 So Trumpism is more popular and the Trump doctrine is more popular and the American First America First agenda is more popular than the Republican Party itself will ever be.

01:55:42.000 Secondarily, watching all these Democrats jump up and down about Jeffrey Epstein, wait till they get what they're asking for.

01:55:49.000 What they're going to find is what I found out when I researched my 2015 book, The Clintons War on Women.

01:55:55.000 As you know, Laura, the longest chapter in that book is on Jeffrey Epstein.

01:55:59.000 I introduced, pardon me, I interviewed Virginia Roberts Jaffrey for six hours for that book.

01:56:06.000 I read every word of her sworn testimony.

01:56:09.000 I read the sworn testimony of the various victims of Jeffrey Epstein, who did who did not take millions of dollars to settle.

01:56:18.000 I had the Epstein's telephone book in that book.

01:56:23.000 I reflect that in my book.

01:56:25.000 I also had the FAA manifest.

01:56:27.000 You know, you're going to find on Epstein's Island?

01:56:30.000 Democrats.

01:56:31.000 That's what you're going to find.

01:56:32.000 Bill Clinton, particularly, who is clearly on Epstein's plane, according to the FAA records, 26 times.

01:56:41.000 Sworn testimony has him on the island at least three times.

01:56:45.000 So this is going to backfire in spectacular fashion on the Democrats who seem to think Trump has something to hide.

01:56:52.000 Trump has nothing to hide.

01:56:54.000 Everything is known.

01:56:55.000 Yes, he was on Epstein's plane.

01:56:57.000 They took off from Teterboro.

01:56:58.000 That's outside New York City.

01:57:00.000 They flew to Palm Beach.

01:57:02.000 And then it was on a Friday and Sunday.

01:57:04.000 They flew back.

01:57:06.000 Marlon Maples, who was his wife at the time, who remains a good friend of mine, and his daughter, Tiffany, who's a brilliant, brilliant student and lawyer, was on the plane along with a nanny.

01:57:19.000 This proves exactly what?

01:57:20.000 Proves nothing whatsoever.

01:57:22.000 The simple fact is Donald Trump barred Jeffrey Epstein from his life in 2005 before Epstein was exposed as a sex trafficker, before he was exposed as a pedophile over an incident at Mar-Lago.

01:57:40.000 And the Clintons continued to socialize with him, continue to take money from him.

01:57:45.000 Between the time that Epstein was charged and the time he pled to the slap on the wrist that he got, thanks to Alberto Gonzalez and the Bush Justice Department, the Clintons took $25,000 from him.

01:57:58.000 They would go on to take millions of dollars from him.

01:58:01.000 So did Chuck Schumer, by the way, took thousands of dollars from him.

01:58:05.000 So this is going to backfire in spectacular full exposure.

01:58:10.000 Let's see all of the documents that are currently in the public realm that are redacted.

01:58:15.000 Let's unredact them with the exception of continuing to protect the victims.

01:58:19.000 I don't think the victims' names should be revealed, but I'm in favor of absolute full disclosure.

01:58:25.000 This idea that Donald Trump has something to fear or something to hide is complete and total nonsense.

01:58:31.000 Yeah, President Trump doesn't have anything that he fears or wants to hide.

01:58:36.000 In my conversations with the president about this, it's more about all of the innocent people who would be harmed.

01:58:42.000 Because let's be honest, what's the definition of a file?

01:58:45.000 This is what I told Politico when they contacted me and they interviewed me about this.

01:58:49.000 Technically speaking, and you know this as somebody who has had your home raided by the FBI, when they take everything inside your home, whether it's your cell phone or your bed sheets or your underwear or your photos, whatever it may be, Roger, technically speaking, that's a file, right?

01:59:06.000 That's a file.

01:59:07.000 And so when they say that Donald Trump is in the Jeffrey Epstein files, well, if Donald Trump knew Jeffrey Epstein, you know, when he knew Jeffrey Epstein, back before the era of cell phones and back before laptops and back before iPads and back before social media, what did people have, right?

01:59:27.000 You're old enough to remember this.

01:59:28.000 They had little black books.

01:59:30.000 They had those little moccasin books and they had little address books and little notepads that they would carry around.

01:59:40.000 And a lot of times people had a landline.

01:59:42.000 They had a home phone and next to their home phone, they had an address book.

01:59:46.000 And the address book was numbered or organized, depending on how they classified or organized their address book by name.

01:59:54.000 And so technically speaking, if they raided Jeffrey Epstein's homes and his multiple Properties, which we know they did, and they confiscated all the belongings, and then they leveled his Palm Beach mansion.

02:00:06.000 They completely demolished the place, completely tore every aspect of the home down.

02:00:12.000 I mean, it's complete rubble, right?

02:00:13.000 We know that this has happened.

02:00:15.000 Technically speaking, then everything in FBI's possession is a file.

02:00:21.000 Everything.

02:00:22.000 Everything out of Jeffrey Epstein's home that they took as evidence is a file, including an address book.

02:00:27.000 So there's a lot of room for manipulation for them to say, oh, he's in the files.

02:00:32.000 What if he had a photo of himself with Donald Trump?

02:00:34.000 What if he had a letter from Donald Trump?

02:00:36.000 What if he had Donald Trump's name in an address book, right?

02:00:40.000 It doesn't have to be sexual in nature.

02:00:42.000 It could literally just be an address book, Donald Trump's cell phone, Donald Trump's number, Donald Trump's address, something about Donald Trump.

02:00:49.000 It doesn't need to be sexual blackmail.

02:00:52.000 And so I wanted to catch your take on this because as somebody who has had their home raided by the FBI, perhaps you can explain to people watching how every single piece of evidence that is confiscated is classified as a file.

02:01:08.000 Well, you make a good point.

02:01:09.000 The other thing here that I think is crucial is when the president says this is a hoax, what he means is that these sensitive files have been in the possession of the Southern District of New York, which is the most liberal activist jurisdiction in the country, the New York office of the FBI.

02:01:29.000 And there's a high probability, as we've already seen, that these records have been salted with fake evidence.

02:01:36.000 For example, this total Faghazi birthday card that they suddenly produced at the Wall Street Journal.

02:01:44.000 First of all, who types a birthday card?

02:01:46.000 Please give me a break.

02:01:48.000 It doesn't even sound like Donald Trump.

02:01:50.000 It's an obvious plant job.

02:01:51.000 So when the president says it's a hoax, he correctly corrected that Joe Biden and Merrick Garland and Christopher Wright have been in control of these documents.

02:02:02.000 At this point, there's a high probability that they have been tainted.

02:02:06.000 That's what I think he was saying.

02:02:08.000 But in a larger sense, what is this?

02:02:10.000 It's an effort to distract from a much larger picture, which is to say illegal border crossings are down 98%.

02:02:19.000 Revenues from tariffs are reaching records.

02:02:22.000 For the first month in June, we have a surplus in the country.

02:02:26.000 We just passed the largest tax cut in American history, did away with the tax on tips, did away with the tax on Social Security for 88% of those who receive Social Security benefits.

02:02:40.000 We are undergoing the greatest mass deportation of illegal immigrant criminals and gang members in U.S. history.

02:02:50.000 We have really begun this enormous quest to enter the golden age.

02:02:58.000 Trump is building a model economy.

02:03:00.000 He's restoring America's strength.

02:03:03.000 We're no longer being taken for granted as the Patsys around the world.

02:03:08.000 He made a very tough decision in regards to Iran.

02:03:11.000 Look, I come out of the Rand Paul wing of the party.

02:03:15.000 I'm anti-war, but the president didn't commit us to an endless foreign war.

02:03:20.000 He didn't commit us to boots on the ground.

02:03:22.000 He decided to make a surgical strike to take out the nuclear weapons development program of the Iranians and then withdraw.

02:03:29.000 Not a single American service person lost their life.

02:03:33.000 In the end, he made a tough but correct decision.

02:03:36.000 My whole point, I guess, is that once that decision was made, there was no more time for debate among his supporters.

02:03:42.000 You have to support the president.

02:03:44.000 I did.

02:03:44.000 He made the right call.

02:03:45.000 Of that, there is no question.

02:03:48.000 It amazes me that some continue to pick at this.

02:03:51.000 I think that is an error.

02:03:53.000 Again, not committing us to endless foreign war, returning to the peace through strength philosophies of Eisenhower, Reagan, Nixon, and Trump, not the endless foreign war neoconism of people like Bill Crystal and George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

02:04:14.000 Absolutely.

02:04:15.000 And I think it's important for people to understand that these policies by President Trump do not make him Israel first.

02:04:22.000 I've heard a lot of discussion in the media lately and a lot of discussion from people on the right trying to accuse President Trump of being controlled by Netanyahu or being controlled by Israel.

02:04:32.000 Since when is protecting America from Iranian proxies in Hamas and Hezbollah doing the interests of another country or doing the bidding of Netanyahu?

02:04:42.000 Since when is President Trump making sure that we don't all die in a nuclear holocaust doing the bidding of Netanyahu or doing the bidding of Israel?

02:04:51.000 Since when is cracking down on the spread of global Islamic terrorism and making sure that Hamas releases all of the hostages, many of whom are American citizens?

02:05:00.000 Since when is that a neocon foreign policy?

02:05:03.000 And so before we cut to our commercial break and we're going to continue and keep you for the next segment as well, I wanted to get your thoughts on that because that's an important point is that President Trump is not dragging us into endless foreign wars.

02:05:16.000 And yet you have this faction.

02:05:18.000 I think it's personally funded by Qatar.

02:05:21.000 I think it's funded by Iran to try to disrupt the MAGA base, to try to make people think that President Trump is not his own individual.

02:05:30.000 He's not leading the United States as a sovereign nation, but is instead acting as some kind of a puppet for Israel.

02:05:38.000 I strongly reject claims like that against the president of the United States.

02:05:42.000 I strongly reject any criticism of President Trump that he is Israel first or acting in the interests of a foreign nation.

02:05:50.000 And I don't really understand why so many conservatives seem to think that protecting America from Islamic terror threats is Israel first policy.

02:05:58.000 What are your thoughts on that?

02:06:00.000 Look, I've known Donald Trump for 50 years.

02:06:02.000 He doesn't like it when I say that because it makes both of us sound old, but nobody controls Donald Trump.

02:06:08.000 He's not handled.

02:06:10.000 He's not managed.

02:06:11.000 He's not scripted.

02:06:12.000 He's very much his own man.

02:06:13.000 And he sees everything through the prism of what is best for America.

02:06:18.000 And I think you can see that.

02:06:20.000 So I think he made a hard but correct decision.

02:06:24.000 And I support that decision.

02:06:25.000 This narrative that he's controlled by anybody, ask anybody who's worked for him.

02:06:30.000 He's controlled by no one.

02:06:31.000 He marches to his own drummer.

02:06:33.000 It's why people elected him.

02:06:34.000 They didn't elect him because he was kind of a homogenized political figure.

02:06:39.000 He is genuine.

02:06:41.000 He's authentic.

02:06:42.000 What you see is what you get.

02:06:44.000 And the American people love it.

02:06:45.000 He is already going down as among our greatest presidents.

02:06:48.000 The idea that anyone controls him, whether a foreign nation or any individual, is just ridiculous.

02:06:55.000 Do you think that these efforts to demonize Jews, demonize Israel, and demonize President Trump as a puppet of Israel is being funded by Qatari Muslim Brotherhood money funded by Iran?

02:07:07.000 And do you think that it's time for the Trump administration to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as one of the first steps in addressing and countering a lot of this Islamist propaganda and these propaganda campaigns that often become very kinetic and violent in cities across America on the campuses of American colleges and all the campuses of American universities?

02:07:30.000 Do you think that this messaging is organic, or do you think it's being funded by Qatar in Iran?

02:07:36.000 I don't know the answer, but I do think the Muslim Brotherhood should be designated as a terrorist organization based on everything I have read about them.

02:07:45.000 Beyond that, I can't address your questions.

02:07:48.000 I don't really know.

02:07:49.000 What I do know is that the president ran for president as the peace candidate and that the American people are counting on him to end the war between Russia and Ukraine, which he's trying very hard to do.

02:08:02.000 Seems to me that every time he gets one side put together, the other side falls apart.

02:08:07.000 So it looked to me early on like Putin would cooperate, then Zelensky would not cooperate.

02:08:12.000 Then he got Zelensky to cooperate.

02:08:14.000 Now it appears that Putin won't cooperate.

02:08:16.000 Testing Donald Trump is an enormous mistake.

02:08:18.000 This guy has ice water in his veins.

02:08:20.000 He's tough as nails.

02:08:22.000 But I also think he's equally committed to peace in the Middle Eastern region.

02:08:27.000 He ran as the peace candidate, and I trust him, frankly.

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02:09:03.000 Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two mortgage giants, have been under government conservatorships for far too long.

02:09:10.000 It's time to free Fannie and Freddie from their government prisons and reap the benefits for Americans and our economy.

02:09:17.000 First, it would be the biggest IPO in history, generating more than $250 billion for the Trump administration without raising taxes or fees.

02:09:26.000 Second, President Trump has said if this happens, it will be done in a smart way that keeps mortgage rates in check.

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02:09:36.000 But let's take it one step further.

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02:10:14.000 For far too long, the middle class has been priced out of being able to own or buy a home.

02:10:19.000 And President Trump wants to fix that.

02:10:21.000 And I believe that during the Trump administration, we're going to see President Trump, who was a builder before he became president of the United States, help resolve the housing crisis in America so that millions of other Americans can experience the American dream and also become homeowners.

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02:10:46.000 Roger, while we're watching, before we continue, where do people follow you on X?

02:10:50.000 I know you're also on Substack.

02:10:51.000 You also have a show.

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02:11:01.000 I appreciate that, Laura.

02:11:02.000 So obviously, I'm on X thanks to Elon Musk restoring my free speech rights.

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02:12:13.000 But I appreciate that, Laura.

02:12:14.000 And no, if you're following Roger Stone on Facebook, you're not following me because I'm not on Facebook.

02:12:21.000 I'm not in a restaurant recently.

02:12:23.000 Same here.

02:12:24.000 People say that to me all the time.

02:12:25.000 They're like, I'm following you on Facebook.

02:12:26.000 I'm like, I'm still banned on Facebook and Instagram.

02:12:29.000 What are you talking about?

02:12:30.000 Roger and I are dangerous individuals, according to Facebook.

02:12:34.000 Should tell the story about what Zuckerberg did to us.

02:12:36.000 Yeah, no, it is outrageous.

02:12:38.000 I was in a restaurant recently and a guy came up to me and said, hey, Stone, where's that crypto I bought from you on Facebook?

02:12:45.000 Dude, I'm not on Facebook.

02:12:47.000 There are 20 Roger Stones who are on Facebook.

02:12:50.000 None of them is me.

02:12:53.000 There are many Roger Stones on X. Fortunately, once you do complain, Elon's people do take them down, but then they just pop up again.

02:13:02.000 So you can follow me at TrueSocial at RealRoger Stone.

02:13:06.000 That's because somebody has my real name.

02:13:08.000 Otherwise, I would have a uniform tag across the board.

02:13:12.000 But you can follow me on TrueSocial, which I love at RealRoger Stone or at X at Roger J. Stone Jr.

02:13:20.000 Please do because I put up pretty pungent stuff every single day.

02:13:28.000 Definitely want to follow Roger.

02:13:30.000 All right, I want to play some of these clips and I want to get back into the concept of the tip line, the loyalty tip line.

02:13:38.000 And as a political operative and as one of President Trump's longest serving advisors and also probably one of his most trusted friends, I want to have a deeper conversation about the importance of loyalty and why you think it is such a forgotten concept, not just in day-to-day relations between humans, but in politics altogether.

02:14:05.000 So let's go ahead and play clip number nine.

02:14:11.000 After a decade on the right's furthest fringes, Laura Loomer appears to be leaning into her reputation as President Trump's loyalty enforcer.

02:14:20.000 So far, Loomer's taken credit for at least 16 administration dismissals.

02:14:25.000 She's recently claimed to meet with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth as she seeks to root out, quote, anti-Trump staffers inside the Pentagon.

02:14:33.000 And there's even a phrase for her ability to pop up wherever and whenever Trump administration officials' careers appear to reach their end.

02:14:41.000 It's called getting Loomered.

02:14:43.000 Now, Semaphore reports that she's testing the strength of her informal influence and access to Trump to many Republican chagrin.

02:14:51.000 Joining us now is politics reporter for Semaphore, Dave Weigel.

02:14:54.000 And Dave, Loomer's been largely seen as a fringe voice, at least until more recently.

02:15:00.000 So why her rise in influence?

02:15:04.000 Because Donald Trump wants her to have influence and because she's very dogged, very hardworking, as she told me, is online basically 20 hours a day and has no social life.

02:15:14.000 She has been devoted to defending Donald Trump for many years and defending his ideas from anyone who she thinks is trying to get a free ride for him and get a job from a position that might undermine him.

02:15:26.000 And Trump sees his first term as a collection of some lost opportunities because he didn't have a completely loyal staff.

02:15:33.000 You see the order for the DOJ to investigate former intelligence officials from the first term.

02:15:39.000 She sees herself and Trump sees her as a way to get accountability and expose these people through constant research and public call outs.

02:15:47.000 That's the important part of it.

02:15:48.000 All the articles she publishes, the very public nature of what she puts out fits right into the conservative media ecosystem.

02:15:54.000 Yeah, she trolls people pretty loud and proud.

02:15:56.000 How does Loomer choose her targets and who might be next on the list?

02:16:02.000 Yes, it's a combination.

02:16:03.000 She does, again, a lot of her own work in just looking people's names up, seeing where they came from, seeing what they've written, seeing what they've worked on.

02:16:12.000 It's a vast array of heresies or non-mAGA traits people can have to be under her spotlight.

02:16:21.000 You saw this at the FDA.

02:16:23.000 You saw this, members of the National Security Council.

02:16:26.000 She gets tips too.

02:16:27.000 She told this to Politica before she talked to us from people who want to expose somebody in the administration.

02:16:33.000 The idea being, even though there's a lot of time for this transition, it wasn't rushed.

02:16:38.000 People were vetted on the way in.

02:16:39.000 There are some people who got jobs because of their credentials and people getting them into the pulling them up into the White House, into the executive branch, didn't notice something that they had said.

02:16:49.000 Or this has happened since we were in seven months of this, or they have some heresy, some problem with Trump policy that wasn't obvious until later in the administration.

02:16:58.000 So it's very broad.

02:17:00.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:17:01.000 No, no, sorry about that.

02:17:02.000 North Carolina Republican Senator Tom Tillis has had some choice words for Loomer now that he's taken the gloves off.

02:17:08.000 He's called her a callus that appears only when the work's already done.

02:17:12.000 So how are Republicans viewing her influence?

02:17:17.000 That was a very representative quote.

02:17:20.000 Republicans who believe they have earned their role in American public life in the Republican Party resent that somebody who is this young and is this outside D.C. and was, you said, fringe in the introduction, was seen as fringed by Republicans, was chasing Ron DeSantis around and trying to ruin him when he was running for president.

02:17:40.000 They resent that she has this influence.

02:17:41.000 And her response to Tillis was, he's a loser.

02:17:45.000 If he thinks I'm taking easy targets, he's an easy target.

02:17:48.000 He has to retire next year because he knew he couldn't win a primary.

02:17:52.000 Hard to argue with that.

02:17:54.000 Pause it for a second.

02:17:57.000 They admit it's hard to argue.

02:17:59.000 And I want to issue one correction because Dave Weigel said, trying to ruin Ron DeSantis.

02:18:05.000 I'm pretty sure that we succeeded, Roger.

02:18:07.000 I'm pretty sure that we tried, but we actually succeeded.

02:18:11.000 Yeah, I think we drove him from the presidential race.

02:18:14.000 He evidently nurses presidential ambitions again in 2028, which is completely and totally unrealistic.

02:18:22.000 Actually, I go so far as to predict that unless he is appointed to an office by President Trump, which I think would be extremely unwise given his track record of disloyalty and his treacherousness, because I think he's a backstabbing ingrate myself.

02:18:37.000 I think he's finished in American political life because he bit the hand that fed him.

02:18:42.000 I mean, he betrayed the man who made him a national figure.

02:18:45.000 He betrayed the man who catapulted him to a statewide office.

02:18:50.000 People forget how one-sided this race was.

02:18:53.000 I mean, Adam Putnam was not my type of Republican, but Adam Putnam had the support of every Republican county chairman in the state, every Republican in the state house and the state senate, the Speaker of the House, the Senate president, every member of the congressional delegation, with the exception of Matt Gates.

02:19:10.000 He was trailing in the polls 53 to Putnam to eight, I think it was, for Ron DeSantis.

02:19:17.000 And then one tweet, just one tweeted endorsement catapulted Ron DeSantis to the governorship.

02:19:25.000 It was really immediate.

02:19:26.000 Not just from her own work, but from her relationship to Donald Trump.

02:19:29.000 And if you're a Republican.

02:19:32.000 In any event, I think we have made our point here.

02:19:36.000 I'm sure that the people at MSNBC, which is kind of a fringe outlet that not many people watch, appreciate the fact that you featured them here tonight.

02:19:45.000 Otherwise, there'd be nobody watching.

02:19:47.000 Yeah, Leah, we're going to continue through it.

02:19:49.000 But you started in politics very young as well.

02:19:51.000 And one thing that he said, if you rewind it, just about 30 seconds or so, the clip there, he said that a lot of people resent me because of how young I am.

02:20:01.000 Let's play that part again.

02:20:02.000 We're a callus that appears only when the work's already done.

02:20:06.000 So how are Republicans viewing her influence?

02:20:10.000 That was a very representative quote.

02:20:14.000 Republicans who believe they have earned their role in American public life in the Republican Party resent that somebody who is this young and is this outside DC and was, you said, fringe in the introduction, was seen as fringed by Republicans, was chasing Ron DeSantis around.

02:20:33.000 I mean, they admit it.

02:20:34.000 They resent me.

02:20:35.000 This has nothing to do with me being crazy.

02:20:37.000 It has nothing to do with me being a radical or me being far right or me being a conspiracy theorist.

02:20:43.000 It's actually shocking to me that the most honest report thus far about how people view me came from MSNBC and the left.

02:20:52.000 They resent me.

02:20:54.000 They literally admitted it, Roger.

02:20:56.000 And they resent me because I'm young and because I'm ambitious and because I'm dogged and because I'm relentless.

02:21:01.000 And that's the reason why they've resented you throughout your entire life is because you were young.

02:21:06.000 And even in your early 20s, you were beating seasoned political operatives who are three times as old as you at their own game.

02:21:13.000 And there's something to be said about this and the culture of resentment in the GOP.

02:21:17.000 It's not exactly a place where people like to build each other up and give each other opportunities and support people who have talent.

02:21:25.000 It is a resentful place.

02:21:27.000 And that's the reason why I'm not in the White House is because people who work for the president resent me.

02:21:32.000 I mean, let's just be honest.

02:21:33.000 I want to get your thoughts on that.

02:21:35.000 Let me say this.

02:21:37.000 Is it possible that Senator Tillis has this level of this lack of self-awareness?

02:21:42.000 I mean, he was driven from the U.S. Senate because he opposed the nomination of Ed Martin to be the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia.

02:21:51.000 That was the first sign of treachery.

02:21:54.000 And then opposing the president on much larger matters.

02:21:59.000 This guy's taken to powder because he was beaten.

02:22:02.000 So there's no self-awareness reflected in his comments whatsoever.

02:22:07.000 Laura, in all honesty, I think you're more effective outside the White House anyway.

02:22:11.000 You do your own thing.

02:22:12.000 I agree with you about 80% of the time.

02:22:15.000 You know when I disagree with you because we talk about it.

02:22:18.000 But I think you're much more effective outside the White House.

02:22:21.000 No one can doubt your loyalty or your commitment to this president, the hours and the work you put in.

02:22:29.000 I will just accept victory and keep moving.

02:22:32.000 You need to remain vigilant.

02:22:34.000 This report that John Edwards, who seems to me to be a protege of John Brennan, the CIA director, under consideration for the number two position of the national security apparatus.

02:22:49.000 This is a very bad idea.

02:22:51.000 This is a guy who brags about vacationing with Brennan, who, if you look at his bio, you can see his career was made by Brennan.

02:23:00.000 People like this to see.

02:23:01.000 He's now denying that, actually, after I reported this report, and you mentioned John Edwards.

02:23:07.000 That's another exclusive story that I reported that Roger shared the other day of an individual who worked as the chief technology officer at the CIA under John Brennan during the Obama administration, who was put forth by Tom Rakusen, who is the senior advisor currently for Steve Feinberg, the deputy secretary of defense.

02:23:27.000 And my sources have told me that Steve Feinberg is incredibly spooked by my reporting.

02:23:32.000 Tom Ratkusen is incredibly spooked.

02:23:34.000 And John Edwards is apparently incredibly spooked as well, denies vacationing with John Brennan.

02:23:40.000 But the reality is, is that this is the type of stuff that the so-called veterans should be aware of.

02:23:46.000 They shouldn't have to rely on somebody like me, an outside force.

02:23:49.000 Thank God I exist as this outside force, because what would they do?

02:23:52.000 And I'm just saying, seriously, what would they do?

02:23:55.000 Because if I'm not the one releasing this information, who's going to release this information?

02:24:01.000 I think that we can all agree, Roger, that anybody tied to John Brennan should be nowhere near the White House.

02:24:07.000 They should absolutely be nowhere near Donald Trump or within the Trump administration, and they should probably be banned from entering all federal buildings.

02:24:16.000 I mean, is that that's something that we can agree on?

02:24:19.000 There's no question about it.

02:24:20.000 It's kind of hard to understand how John Brennan, an admitted communist who admitted in a government polygraph that he was a member of the Communist Party, that he voted for the Communist Party candidate for president.

02:24:32.000 A man who was caught red-handed, basically hacking into the computers of a U.S. Senate committee investigating his illegal use of torture.

02:24:44.000 The guy who signed the visas for, I think, four of the Saudis who attacked America on 9-11.

02:24:55.000 A guy who clearly, based on the declassified documents shared by both John Radcliffe and Tulsi Gabber, forced the Steele dossier, which he knew was a fraud, which he knew was inaccurate, into the president's intelligence assessment, and then tried to hide it in a footnote so that nobody would see that it was there.

02:25:19.000 The truth is, I think Lee Smith, one of the great investigative reporters and authors out there, reported this.

02:25:24.000 Obama was waiting for it.

02:25:26.000 It was anticipated.

02:25:27.000 This was all part of the plan.

02:25:30.000 Brennan continues to say on MSNBC as recently this week that the steel dossier may yet be true when there's no truth to it whatsoever.

02:25:39.000 When this guy is going to be brought to justice is a mystery to me, but it's very clear to me that he can be pulled before a grand jury.

02:25:49.000 It looks to me like Pam Bondi is going to do that.

02:25:51.000 Amen for that.

02:25:53.000 Are we going to continue to let these people get away with the largest dirty trick in American political history, an abuse of power in which the extraordinary authority of the U.S. government and the incredible capability of our intelligence agencies was utilized, weaponized, using two complete false narratives?

02:26:14.000 One, the Steele dossier.

02:26:16.000 The other one, not addressed by John Durham, not addressed yet by Tulsi Gabbard or the CIA, but this notion that the Democrat National Committee was the target of an online hack by Russian intelligence, for which there is no proof whatsoever other than the claims of John Brennan, a man who cannot be trusted.

02:26:37.000 So I'm ready for justice.

02:26:39.000 I'm ready for the prosecution of Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Rice.

02:26:44.000 I read the entire list today on 77WABC.

02:26:47.000 I think it was half of the show.

02:26:49.000 But I read the name of everyone who's involved in this seditious conspiracy and who should be charged.

02:26:54.000 Let's not forget Rod Rosenstein.

02:26:57.000 Let's not forget Andrew Weissman.

02:26:59.000 I mean, there is plenty to go around here, that's for sure.

02:27:02.000 Absolutely.

02:27:03.000 And to think that there are still individuals who played a role in this conspiracy theory, who participated in this coup, who participated in this hoax on the American people that still have their security clearance, including Palestinian jihadist Maher Batar.

02:27:18.000 It's an abomination.

02:27:19.000 And I hope that the Trump administration is quick to revoke their security clearances.

02:27:24.000 Thoughts on Maher Batar, who is currently serving as Adam Schiff's national security advisor and who played a key role in some of these initial meetings where they facilitated this fake intelligence, the fabricated intelligence reports against President Trump to falsely accuse him of being involved in a conspiracy with Russia to steal the 2016 election.

02:27:48.000 Thoughts on Maher Batar, who was the director of national intelligence under Joe Biden, despite being a Palestinian jihadist with ties to Students for Justice in Palestine.

02:27:59.000 Thoughts on this treacherous individual still having a security clearance.

02:28:03.000 Laura, this, I think, is one of the most important stories that you have broken.

02:28:07.000 Look, we had Robert Malley at the Biden State Department.

02:28:11.000 This is the greatest spy scandal since Alger Hiss.

02:28:15.000 This guy was sharing documents with Iran the entire time.

02:28:19.000 And while he was suspended, he still hasn't been prosecuted.

02:28:22.000 He should have been.

02:28:23.000 He should be.

02:28:25.000 He's still roaming around.

02:28:26.000 He's not even in jail.

02:28:27.000 Like, where is this guy?

02:28:28.000 Is he in Iran?

02:28:29.000 Is he in the United States?

02:28:30.000 Like, how do people like this still roam around?

02:28:32.000 And why hasn't the State Department fired every single person who worked with Robert Malley?

02:28:37.000 I think a number of his associates, like this woman, Tabutani, I think her name is, she stayed in the city.

02:28:42.000 Adrian Tabate.

02:28:44.000 Yeah.

02:28:45.000 Just beyond belief.

02:28:46.000 This is, as I say, the biggest spy scandal since Alger Hiss proved to be a Russian spy, just as a young Congressman Richard Nixon said he was.

02:28:55.000 So it is, it's amazing to me that these people still have security clearances.

02:29:01.000 This is why that story is particularly important.

02:29:04.000 And this guy goes from the Russian collusion hoax to helping Adam Schiff try to concoct the false narrative about Russian collusion in the 2016 election.

02:29:15.000 He works for the House Intelligence Committee when the Democrats are in the majority.

02:29:19.000 Now he's working as the chief national security advisor for Senator Adam Schiff, a guy who just got busted in mortgage fraud.

02:29:28.000 And before that, before that, he was working at the United Nations under Obama, and he was working in the Obama administration, advising on Israel and Palestine policy.

02:29:39.000 Well, why would you want a Palestinian jihadist who is pro-Hamas working on Palestine policy?

02:29:45.000 It's pretty obvious.

02:29:46.000 You know, Israeli intelligence, I have sources who have told me that Maher Batar is identified as an individual by Israeli intelligence as someone who allowed and helped even facilitate October 7th.

02:29:58.000 Did you know that?

02:29:59.000 I Did not know that, but clearly he needs to have his security clearance yanked.

02:30:04.000 I do want to say a word about Pencil Neck, if I may.

02:30:07.000 Adam Schiff says that the president's upset because he owns two homes.

02:30:12.000 I think he's missing the point.

02:30:14.000 So Adam Schiff claimed that both his condo in Burbank, California, and his home in suburban Maryland were both his principal legal residence.

02:30:25.000 Therefore, he got a tax break in both states.

02:30:28.000 He got a lower mortgage rate in both states.

02:30:30.000 He got a lower insurance rate in both states.

02:30:33.000 That is, to be very clear, a felony for which he should be prosecuted.

02:30:38.000 The director of the Federal Housing and Finance Agency, Bill Poulti, has sent a criminal referral over to the Justice Department.

02:30:48.000 And it remains to be seen now whether Adam Schiff, who should be prosecuted for this, it's the least of his crimes, frankly.

02:30:54.000 He should also be prosecuted in the Russian collusion hoax.

02:30:57.000 We'll see if he's called before the grand jury.

02:31:00.000 He should be, certainly should be.

02:31:02.000 Remember, this is a guy who said that he had, quote, seen more than circumstantial evidence of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign.

02:31:11.000 He's produced nothing whatsoever.

02:31:13.000 Then he comes back with the false claim.

02:31:15.000 Oh, well, Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, shared polling information with a Russian intelligence agent.

02:31:23.000 Wrong across the board.

02:31:24.000 First of all, the Trump campaign had no proprietary polling at the time in question.

02:31:29.000 They hadn't gone into the field yet.

02:31:31.000 Secondarily, any polling information he saved, shared with this Konstantin Kalimnik would have been public information that anyone could find online.

02:31:40.000 And thirdly, as I think Matt Taibbi, the investigative reporter, has proven, Konstantin Klement was not a Russian intelligence asset.

02:31:48.000 He was an American intelligence asset.

02:31:51.000 So once again, they have nothing whatsoever.

02:31:54.000 Adam Schiff is the greatest huckster, the greatest con man, the greatest fraud to ever grace the U.S. Senate.

02:32:01.000 Now, it's a contest between Dan Goldman, Jamie Raskin, and Adam Schiff as to who can be more of a congenital liar and fraudster.

02:32:11.000 But I still think Pencil Net, watermelon head, whatever you want to call them, still think he leads the pack.

02:32:17.000 So essentially, ultimately, long story short, vetting matters.

02:32:21.000 All of this comes down to vetting and doing deep dive research into these individuals, identifying all of these networks, identifying how individuals who still have security clearances or who may still be in the Trump administration are people who are tied to the Crossfire Hurricane scandal and tied to this criminal Obama network, how they are still within the administration, gaining access to the administration, identifying these risk factors to prevent them from ever having access to Donald Trump ever again.

02:32:50.000 I want to get your take on two more clips before we let you go and take questions from the chat.

02:32:55.000 CNN, right, had a panel discussion about loyalty.

02:32:59.000 And again, you're a very loyal person.

02:33:01.000 I've showed a clip the other night on my show about Donald Trump saying that he's a loyalty freak.

02:33:05.000 We can even play the clip and get your reaction to it tonight as well.

02:33:09.000 But, you know, a lot of people think they know Trump, but they don't really know Trump.

02:33:14.000 And if there's one thing that Donald Trump values above anything else, it's loyalty.

02:33:18.000 I think that you could say that from knowing him for 50 years is that if Donald Trump values anything, it's loyalty.

02:33:24.000 And so it's shocking to me that news broadcasters are actually having panel discussions about whether or not loyalty is a valuable trait to have in American politics and whether or not the president should be talking to people who express strong loyalty and devotion to him.

02:33:45.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip.

02:33:46.000 I want to get your reaction.

02:33:48.000 Shmorka, I got to ask you, we had some great new reporting from my colleagues at CNN about Laura Loomer, far-right activist, her influence within the Trump administration.

02:33:56.000 Loomer says she recently spoke with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth about her work finding disloyal employees within the Pentagon.

02:34:03.000 The Defense Department spokesperson confirms the two spoke.

02:34:05.000 She's already succeeded in getting several top Trump officials fired.

02:34:09.000 What's your read on all of this?

02:34:11.000 Hey, look, I think it's interesting.

02:34:12.000 And a lot of voters who are very ardent supporters of the president, they really like what Loomer is doing.

02:34:18.000 Even though she's not in an official capacity, they like having someone who can advise the president on finding individuals and removing individuals who may object to his agenda because they want to see that agenda move forward.

02:34:30.000 That's why he won not only Electoral College, but also the popular vote.

02:34:34.000 And so I think Loomer, as a very loyal supporter of the president, is playing this outsider role of Sam as president.

02:34:39.000 And I'm going to make sure that whomever you decide to appoint will be people who have stood with you since day one.

02:34:45.000 She's going to get a lot of support from the base.

02:34:46.000 And that's why I think the president will continue to stand with her.

02:34:48.000 But like, how do you feel about it?

02:34:51.000 You know, I'm not bothered by it because if I was the president, I would want somebody to say, sure, Michael, you shouldn't appoint this guy because this guy does not have your best interest.

02:34:58.000 Or this guy may have been critical of you in the past.

02:35:01.000 I would at least want to say, well, I wasn't aware of that.

02:35:03.000 Where do you stand today?

02:35:04.000 And how will that be problematic in your role moving forward?

02:35:06.000 Is that why you're being nice about now?

02:35:08.000 Because you're afraid they'll come after you if you say something, mean?

02:35:10.000 I got 100 plus guns out of you.

02:35:12.000 I'm not worried about anybody coming to my house.

02:35:19.000 I love this group.

02:35:20.000 Let's do this for the next 45 minutes.

02:35:23.000 Thoughts on that?

02:35:25.000 I mean, the screen says, far-right Trump ally Laura Loomer hunts for disloyalty to Trump.

02:35:31.000 I mean, why is loyalty such a foreign concept to these people?

02:35:35.000 And why do you think they're having such a visceral reaction to the Laura Loomer loyalty tip line?

02:35:43.000 Well, Laura, as you know, I don't get my news from CNN.

02:35:46.000 For some reason, I don't drink out of the toilet.

02:35:48.000 What was going on with that hat that guy was wearing?

02:35:50.000 What was that about?

02:35:51.000 That was kind of weird.

02:35:52.000 I don't know.

02:35:53.000 You're going to have to feature him and you're Roger Stone's best and worst dress list.

02:35:57.000 He'd definitely be up there in the worst dress list along with Steve Bannon.

02:36:01.000 Look, Laura, we could sit here and play clips all day.

02:36:05.000 You've gotten some incredible coverage today because you're loyal.

02:36:09.000 And I do think you play an important function outside the system where you are free to critique whoever you want.

02:36:16.000 I don't always agree with you.

02:36:18.000 You know that.

02:36:18.000 But I think you would do a great service to the administration by and large.

02:36:23.000 And you have an ability to spot people who don't have this administration's best interest at heart, who are not loyal to the president's vision.

02:36:32.000 And I know he appreciates that as well.

02:36:36.000 If you want to go to questions, we should do that because I have an early morning and I have to work tomorrow.

02:36:40.000 Yeah, we'll take a couple of questions.

02:36:42.000 If you have questions, put them in the chat.

02:36:44.000 Thoughts on the Loomer loyalty tip line.

02:36:47.000 So ultimately, Roger, you are in favor of the tip line.

02:36:51.000 You think that it's a net positive to the administration and you think that it will have an overwhelmingly positive influence on the administration.

02:36:59.000 Well, if it helps fush out people like Mar Bittar, for example, or this other character.

02:37:07.000 John Edwards.

02:37:08.000 Yeah, it's a perfect example.

02:37:10.000 People like that should not be in this administration because they don't share the president's vision.

02:37:15.000 So if the tip line helps to elucidate and demonstrate who those people are, I think it plays an important role.

02:37:24.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:37:26.000 One of the questions in the chat, more of a personal question.

02:37:30.000 Mr. Stone, how is your wife doing?

02:37:32.000 And how are your two dogs, your babies, doing?

02:37:36.000 Mrs. Stone is doing great.

02:37:37.000 She's now almost four years cancer-free, thanks to Jesus Christ and prayer and alternative therapies.

02:37:46.000 She's doing great.

02:37:48.000 She doesn't love politics, as you might imagine, but she's doing terrific.

02:37:53.000 And yes, Laura, it's true that while I was in Washington, D.C., somebody tried to poison our dogs.

02:38:00.000 We have two Yorkshire Terriers, Mimi and Peewee, after enormous veterinary bills and some time in a veterinary hospital.

02:38:09.000 They have both survived, I'm happy to say.

02:38:12.000 Still a matter under investigation, so I'm not going to discuss it any further.

02:38:16.000 But this shows you how low the left has gotten.

02:38:20.000 They can't attack me, so they attack a poor defenseless animal.

02:38:24.000 It is really disgusting.

02:38:27.000 No, it's really disgusting.

02:38:28.000 Let's go to a couple more questions in the chat.

02:38:31.000 Roger's got an early morning.

02:38:33.000 So chop, chop.

02:38:34.000 Let's put our questions in the chat.

02:38:36.000 Let's see, scroll up.

02:38:37.000 There's a few more.

02:38:43.000 Roger, are you planning on writing a script for a movie that exposes dumb politicians?

02:38:49.000 People want to know if you're going to make a movie.

02:38:52.000 Do you have plans to write a movie?

02:38:54.000 Actually, I'm working on two books.

02:38:57.000 I'm working on a book on the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan because there's never been any official report released by the government.

02:39:07.000 But it is an undisputable fact that John Hinckley Jr. was in front of Reagan, crouching and therefore shooting in an upward trajectory.

02:39:16.000 Yet Reagan was hit from above and behind, inconsistent with Hinckley being the shooter.

02:39:22.000 You're going to have to wait till the book comes out, hopefully by Christmas.

02:39:26.000 Secondarily, I'm working on a much more difficult book to write, which is a story of the epic two and a half year struggle I had with the weaponized judicial system where they charge me with lying under oath to Congress about Russian collusion that never actually happened, which is really just an effort to pressure me into testifying falsely against Donald Trump, which I refuse to do.

02:39:50.000 This book is not cathartic.

02:39:52.000 It's difficult to write because you're forced to relive this incredible nightmare where I had a corrupt and biased, hateful federal judge.

02:40:02.000 I had a jury for a woman who lied during jury selection, said she didn't know who I was, knew nothing about my case.

02:40:10.000 Yet it turned out that she had been attacking me and Donald Trump by name for 19 months regarding the very case in which she was selected as a juror.

02:40:20.000 And when Mike Cernovich is the one who discovered that fact, the judge in the case, Amy Berman Jackson, said that wasn't evidence of bias, refused to throw out my conviction.

02:40:31.000 So I'm working on that.

02:40:33.000 Many, many people want a sequel to Get Me Roger Stone.

02:40:37.000 I think that there is a documentary in the works.

02:40:40.000 I'm not going to announce it here, but there is a documentary in the works.

02:40:45.000 And right now, Laura, my great function is to do my daily radio show every day at 8 o'clock p.m. Eastern at 77 WABC Radio.

02:40:53.000 You can get it once again at wabcradio.com.

02:40:58.000 Do you have any plans to sue the federal government?

02:41:01.000 I mean, now that all of this has come out and Tulsi Gabbard has declassified these documents that really vindicate you and show the treachery associated with this coup.

02:41:13.000 I mean, it's everything that we already knew, but it's officially been declassified.

02:41:16.000 And now, you know, that they can no longer brush it aside as a conspiracy theory or a right-wing, you know, a right-wing cry for help.

02:41:24.000 I mean, they were very derogatory saying, oh, Roger Stone is just, you know, trying to present himself as a victim because he wants sympathy, because he needs money, because he needs to fundraise, because he's broke, because he's irrelevant.

02:41:37.000 I mean, do you plan on suing and getting the damages and getting back what was taken from you?

02:41:44.000 Well, the indictment of my indictment is very cleverly kind of structured.

02:41:49.000 They admit in Robert Mueller's long-redacted final report, which the judge refused to give to my defense attorneys when they asked for it.

02:41:58.000 The judge said she would review the report and give my defense attorneys the relevant sections regarding me.

02:42:06.000 Somehow she left out page 178, which even Robert Mueller couldn't sugarcoat the fact that he found no evidence of Russian collusion, Wikileaks collaboration, or any other crime.

02:42:17.000 But she didn't give us that.

02:42:18.000 They also refused to give us the crowd strikes report.

02:42:22.000 The FBI admitted early in the trial that they had never inspected the computer servers of the DNC.

02:42:29.000 They relied entirely on this company CrowdStrike.

02:42:33.000 Yet the head of CrowdStrike, a man named Sean Henry, who just coincidentally happened to be former deputy of Robert Mueller's at the FBI, testified before the House Intelligence Committee that his report contained no proof whatsoever that the DNC had been hacked by the Russians or anyone else for that matter.

02:42:53.000 I wanted to call Bill Binney as a witness, an expert witness at my trial.

02:42:57.000 He could have testified as to the download times of the material that was purloined from the DNC.

02:43:05.000 He could have given both forensic evidence and expert testimony.

02:43:09.000 The judge would, of course, not allow it.

02:43:12.000 So I've been through hell and back, but I'm still here.

02:43:16.000 I have no intention of going away.

02:43:19.000 Yes, I'm grateful to the president for my pardon, but this idea, as Hakeem Jeffrey said, that Stone traded his silence for a pardon.

02:43:30.000 Or as the judge said in my sentencing, you have been convicted of covering up for Donald Trump, to which I say, covering up what?

02:43:37.000 The Russian collusion?

02:43:39.000 There was no Russian collusion, nor was there any WikiLeaks collaboration.

02:43:43.000 So I'm not sure that I, that even if I could fashion a lawsuit, if you go to trial in D.C., there's zero chance that you'd get a fair judge or a reasonable jury.

02:43:54.000 So I'm looking at it, but I suspect that that is not where justice will ultimately be gotten.

02:44:00.000 Justice will be gotten when the people who concocted this entire seditious conspiracy to destroy myself, to destroy General Flynn, to destroy Donald Trump, are prosecuted.

02:44:12.000 That will be justice.

02:44:13.000 And then beyond that, the president's absolute right.

02:44:15.000 The greatest revenge is going to be the success of the country.

02:44:20.000 The greatest revenge will be when America thrives, when America is prosperous, when we have unprecedented peace, prosperity, security, and law and order.

02:44:32.000 And those days are clearly upon us.

02:44:35.000 Absolutely.

02:44:36.000 Last question.

02:44:37.000 This was a question online that somebody posted.

02:44:40.000 I saw this in the comments on the Twitter stream.

02:44:43.000 Somebody said, wait, was Laura Loomer really at Roger Stone's house the night of the, or the day of the FBI raid?

02:44:50.000 How was she at his house the day of the FBI raid?

02:44:53.000 I mean, a lot of people don't really understand how far back our relationship and our friendship goes, but perhaps you can dispel, I guess, the detractors online who are saying that I'm making this up.

02:45:05.000 I was with you.

02:45:06.000 I was at your house the day of the FBI raid, and I was with you the day that President Trump pardoned you.

02:45:11.000 I was with you when he called you to give you the news.

02:45:13.000 Both those things are absolutely true.

02:45:16.000 As I said earlier, I was arrested at 6.06 in the morning.

02:45:20.000 At 6.11, somebody with CNN texted my sealed indictment to my attorney.

02:45:29.000 It had no court markings or timestamps on it.

02:45:32.000 That's because it was sealed.

02:45:33.000 But if you look at the metadata collection, pardon me, the metadata tags, you have the initials of the man who wrote it and therefore the man who illegally linked it, Andrew Weissman.

02:45:45.000 So I was arrested at 6.06.

02:45:47.000 I went to the FBI Booking Center in handcuffs in Miramar, Florida.

02:45:52.000 I then went to the federal courthouse in Fort Lauderdale for arraignment where I pled not guilty.

02:45:59.000 They put me in a holding cell with four African Americans.

02:46:03.000 I patiently explained the 1994 crime bill to them and why they had to be opposed to Joe Biden and Bill Clinton.

02:46:11.000 They were chanting Roger Stone did nothing wrong by the time I went to the courthouse or the courtroom to be arraigned.

02:46:17.000 And then I returned home and who should visit me at my home but Laura Loomer.

02:46:22.000 So she was most definitely with me.

02:46:24.000 There was a demonstration outside my house of support where I had many of my friends and neighbors and supporters.

02:46:33.000 And then I bullhorned CNN away from your house.

02:46:37.000 I got in their face during their live broadcast outside your home when they were harassing you and your wife.

02:46:42.000 And I got in their face so loud and so aggressively that it forced them to leave.

02:46:47.000 Yeah, I don't recommend it to people.

02:46:49.000 It was an interesting experience overall.

02:46:51.000 All right, Laura, you can say I'm losing my voice.

02:46:53.000 Well, Roger, thank you so much for coming on.

02:46:55.000 It's a pleasure always having you on.

02:46:58.000 One of my longest standing friends, one of my best friends, and one of my mentors, known you, and I trust you more than most people in this industry.

02:47:07.000 So I really appreciate you taking almost two hours of your night tonight to come on my program.

02:47:13.000 But you always have been my favorite guest.

02:47:16.000 You were the very first guest to ever come on Loomer Unleashed, if you recall, the very first ever guest of my program.

02:47:23.000 And so it's always a pleasure and always very special for me to have you on the program again because it's important for people to understand how important you are to me and how much I care about you.

02:47:34.000 I appreciate that, Laura.

02:47:35.000 Never give up and always keep fighting.

02:47:37.000 God bless you.

02:47:38.000 Thanks, Roger.

02:47:40.000 Wonderful.

02:47:42.000 There you have it.

02:47:43.000 Legendary political icon, Roger Stone.

02:47:46.000 Great guy.

02:47:48.000 One of my best friends.

02:47:54.000 Put your comments in the chat.

02:47:57.000 There's not going to be Loomer Unleashed for the next week.

02:48:00.000 I have to go out of town.

02:48:01.000 And so I have to go to a wedding, actually.

02:48:03.000 I have to go to a wedding.

02:48:04.000 So I'll be gone for a couple of days.

02:48:06.000 I'm going to a wedding and then I'm taking a much needed break.

02:48:10.000 When I say break, I mean I'm not going to be doing my show for a couple of days, but I kind of need to just chill out for a few days.

02:48:17.000 So I'm taking a little mini vacation while I go to a wedding.

02:48:22.000 And so there's not going to be any episodes of Loomer Unleashed next week, but I will return to the airwaves the following week.

02:48:30.000 Be sure you put your comments, your questions in the chat.

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02:49:36.000 We'll take a couple comments in the chat.

02:49:40.000 I will be posting written reports while I'm on my vacation.

02:49:45.000 So you can follow my website and follow my exit account.

02:49:48.000 It's not like I'm completely disappearing.

02:49:49.000 I'm just not going to be doing my show for about a week or so.

02:49:52.000 I do need to go to a wedding.

02:49:54.000 It's pretty far away.

02:49:56.000 Gonna have a great time.

02:49:57.000 Very excited to get away for a little bit.

02:49:59.000 But I will still be breaking stories and posting news reports, breaking exclusive news reports on my website and on my X account.

02:50:08.000 So be sure that you're following me on X at Laura Loomer and on X at Loomer Unleashed.

02:50:13.000 And be sure that you follow my Rumble channel, rumble.com/slash LauraLumer, Rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.

02:50:20.000 I figured that while Congress is on a recess, it's the perfect time to take a few days while I go to this wedding because, well, we'd usually be up on Capitol Hill confronting members of Congress, but they're not there anyway.

02:50:33.000 So it is what it is.

02:50:41.000 Let's see.

02:50:44.000 How can you be friends with Stone and Bannon when there is so much friction between them?

02:50:49.000 Well, it's an interesting dynamic, but it is what it is.

02:50:53.000 Not everybody in this industry is going to get along.

02:50:55.000 Tucker's friends with Roger.

02:50:57.000 Roger's friends with Tucker.

02:50:59.000 I'm not friends with Tucker.

02:51:00.000 I don't like Tucker Carlson.

02:51:01.000 So like I said, Roger and I don't agree on everything.

02:51:05.000 And Roger made that very clear tonight during the interview that we're not afraid to let each other know when we think that one of us is wrong.

02:51:13.000 I'll call Roger or he'll call me or sometimes he'll sub-tweet me online.

02:51:18.000 But that's our relationship.

02:51:19.000 And, you know, it is what it is.

02:51:22.000 Not everybody gets along, but Roger and I are friends.

02:51:25.000 And at the end of the day, he may not like certain people that I like and I may not like certain people who he likes, but I still love him and I care about him.

02:51:33.000 And Roger's like family to me.

02:51:36.000 You know, his wife and I are friends.

02:51:38.000 You know, I was very close with her when she was going through her cancer treatment.

02:51:42.000 I was with Roger the night that or the day that the FBI raided his home.

02:51:47.000 I was with him in the room when President Trump called him and pardoned him.

02:51:49.000 We're very close friends and we've been very close friends for a long time.

02:51:53.000 I've spent holidays with him.

02:51:55.000 So, you know, you can be friends with people who don't get along with each other.

02:52:02.000 Thank you.

02:52:11.000 Let's see.

02:52:15.000 Someone said, that's crazy.

02:52:16.000 I didn't know that you were there when he was raided.

02:52:18.000 Yep.

02:52:19.000 There's a lot of things that people don't know about me and they want to say, oh, well, how does Laura have the political influence that she has?

02:52:24.000 Well, if they took a moment to actually understand my background and who I know and who I'm friends with, then maybe they would know somebody said, You look pretty tonight.

02:52:38.000 Thank you.

02:52:38.000 I think it's because I got a little bit of a tan.

02:52:41.000 So usually I look a little pale, but see.

02:52:52.000 Have fun in Israel, Laura.

02:52:53.000 Be safe.

02:52:54.000 I'm not going to Israel.

02:52:57.000 I won't say where I'm going, but I'm not going to Israel.

02:53:01.000 For security reasons, I don't tell people where I'm going anymore.

02:53:07.000 I get too many death threats.

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02:53:42.000 Loomered.com every day posting new articles about the vetting crisis.

02:53:48.000 And I'm going to continue posting information about the vetting crisis even while I'm taking some time off because I'm not really taking time off.

02:53:55.000 I'm just not going to be, you know, doing my show for a week.

02:53:58.000 But aside from not doing my show for a week, I'm still going to be fully operational and doing my investigative reports.

02:54:05.000 Just going to take a few days, enjoy the wedding.

02:54:10.000 Alrighty.

02:54:11.000 With that, thank you so much for tuning into tonight's episode of Loomer Unleashed.

02:54:15.000 I really appreciate it.

02:54:16.000 Again, there's no Loomer Unleashed this Thursday because I'm going to be busy at a wedding.

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EP138: Media Goes Crazy Over Loomer Loyalty Tip Line

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