Loomer Unleashed - EP177: It's JOEVER: Kent Says He'll Testify In Charlie Kirk Assassin's Trial!

00:37:34.000 There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.

00:37:43.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems will be fixed in about five minutes. 0.95

00:37:49.000 Chained herself to Twitter.

00:37:50.000 She chained herself. 1.00

00:38:19.000 I don't put my ass with the assets like that. 0.99

00:38:41.000 and welcome to tonight's episode of Loomer Unleashed. 0.99

00:38:45.000 I'm your host, Laura Loomer.

00:38:46.000 It's great to be back.

00:38:47.000 As you know, for the last 10 days, I was gone.

00:38:50.000 I was not here.

00:38:52.000 I was in India.

00:38:52.000 I had a great time in India where I spoke at the India Today Conclave Conference, gave a speech.

00:38:59.000 Went pretty viral.

00:39:00.000 You may have seen some of the clips online.

00:39:02.000 But thanks so much for tuning in tonight.

00:39:05.000 It's great to be back in the seat.

00:39:07.000 Lots to talk about.

00:39:08.000 A lot has happened over these last two weeks, over the last 10 days or so that I've been absent from Loomer Unleashed.

00:39:16.000 And we're going to hop right into it.

00:39:19.000 But before we get started, we are live right now on Rumble NX.

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00:39:42.000 We are really driving all of the discussion.

00:39:46.000 There was somebody the other day that said that Laura Loomer is at the epicenter of the MAGA civil war.

00:39:52.000 Now, I don't really take pride in helping to facilitate any kind of war because, well, I want there to be cohesion.

00:40:00.000 We should all be supporting President Trump and we should all be supporting the MAGA movement.

00:40:05.000 But I do view myself as an enforcer.

00:40:07.000 And I was asked this question when I was on stage at the India Today Conclave Conference in New Delhi.

00:40:13.000 And I mean, all the way in India, right?

00:40:16.000 The Indian media is even talking about my loyalty tip line and the way that I have my little, my, I guess you could call them purity tests, but we do need to have purity.

00:40:26.000 We do need to have purity tests in the GOP.

00:40:28.000 I'm not necessarily talking about, oh, like, what's your sex life like?

00:40:32.000 Or, oh, you know, do you drink?

00:40:34.000 Do you smoke?

00:40:34.000 Do you do drugs?

00:40:36.000 We need to have purity tests as it pertains to people's values and whether or not they are actually loyal to the cause or whether or not they're subversive people who are trying to undermine the president's agenda, undermine the America First movement for the sake of developing their own brand, becoming a personality, becoming an influencer, right?

00:40:59.000 We're in the age of influencers, becoming a podcaster, whatever you want to call it.

00:41:04.000 Seems like there's just too many people these days that they said all the right things.

00:41:10.000 They maybe did all the right things.

00:41:12.000 They really had a lot of us fooled for a long time.

00:41:15.000 But now we see that a lot of these people on the so-called political right or MAGA, right?

00:41:22.000 Although it's hard to really tell what's MAGA these days and what's not because of all the foreign influencing going on and the efforts to subvert President Trump and falsely accuse him of being controlled by BB Nuts and Yahoo.

00:41:36.000 You have a lot of people that are really going out of their way, it seems, to completely fracture MAGA.

00:41:42.000 So I wanted to focus on this tonight because not only is it happening in the podcast world, and we've talked about this a lot here on my show, right?

00:41:52.000 Talked about Candace Owens, we've talked about Tucker Catarlson, talked about Nick Flentis, talked about all these different personalities, right?

00:41:59.000 Talked about all the different influencers and how some of them all of a sudden appear to be pushing out Islamic talking points and have done a total 180 as it pertains to their views on immigration, as it pertains to their views on Islam, as it pertains to their views on Donald Trump.

00:42:16.000 We've talked about that.

00:42:17.000 But it's even more sinister now because we're starting to see that there is an influencer administration pipeline in which some of these crackpot conspiracy theorists who have their shows who are pushing Muslim Brotherhood propaganda who are obsessed with Israel, right?

00:42:35.000 Obsessed, like literally obsessed to the point where I call it Israel derangement syndrome. 0.59

00:42:40.000 You may have recalled when I did an interview with Steve Bannon a couple of months ago and I said, you know, with all due respect, Steve, it sounds like you and a lot of your viewers and your guests have Israel derangement syndrome.

00:42:52.000 And he blew up on me, right, when we were talking about Qatar because I was trying to make the point that Qatar is pushing a lot more money into lobbying our politicians and trying to influence our institutions here in the United States than Israel.

00:43:07.000 But you can't speak facts anymore because people just lose their mind.

00:43:11.000 And if you talk about this Islamic influence, you're going to have your head shoot off by people that just want to say, well, what about the Jews? 0.85

00:43:17.000 And what about Israel?

00:43:19.000 So I thought that maybe this would be confined to the podcast world, to the influencer world, because it's quite unbecoming, you could say, of anybody in an administration.

00:43:30.000 It's unbecoming of a vice president.

00:43:32.000 It's unbecoming of the director of national intelligence.

00:43:37.000 It's unbecoming of staffers in these office.

00:43:40.000 It's unbecoming of anybody really who is serving as a cabinet official in the Trump administration.

00:43:47.000 But what do we see now?

00:43:49.000 Well, we see this Trump administration, Trump cabinet pipeline to the influencer class.

00:43:55.000 And now this has become even more evident and it is the center of controversy this week.

00:44:00.000 Of course, I'm talking about Joe Kent, the director, I guess you could say now former director of the National Counterterrorism Center, which is, you know, basically underneath ODNI, okay, the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:44:18.000 You'll probably remember that Joe Kent actually served as Tulsi Gabbard's interim chief of staff before he was appointed by President Trump to be the director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

00:44:31.000 Now, Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent go way back.

00:44:33.000 They have a long-standing friendship.

00:44:35.000 And she really is the person who brought Joe Kent into ODNI and ultimately, you know, now underneath ODNI as the director of National Counterterrorism Center.

00:44:46.000 Why do I bring this up?

00:44:48.000 Because we would expect people in the administration, especially cabinet members, to support the president and to support his agenda, especially after, you know, vying for these positions, talking about how they wanted to be in the administration for the sake of coalition building.

00:45:04.000 We were told that having Democrats in the administration, oh, it's going to be great.

00:45:09.000 It's going to be grand.

00:45:10.000 It's going to be so jolly.

00:45:11.000 Everybody's going to get along.

00:45:12.000 We're all going to hold hands.

00:45:13.000 We're going to sing kumbaya.

00:45:14.000 It's going to be amazing.

00:45:16.000 But of course, I told you all it wasn't going to be amazing because there's no such thing as kumbaya.

00:45:21.000 There's no such thing as coalition building.

00:45:23.000 Because everybody in Washington, D.C. is an opportunist.

00:45:23.000 Okay.

00:45:26.000 Everybody is about what's good for me.

00:45:30.000 Screw what's good for everybody else, right?

00:45:32.000 That's the mentality of everybody in Washington, D.C.

00:45:35.000 So as somebody that spends a lot of time vetting and a lot of time doing research and a lot of time looking at these kind of interpersonal relationships, monitoring people, like looking at their associations, documenting, right?

00:45:51.000 I document all of their associations.

00:45:54.000 I like to document these things because as I say, I keep receipts.

00:45:58.000 I keep folders.

00:45:59.000 I keep files on these people because it's really good to have an eye for pattern recognition, being able to identify these patterns because you're able to kind of put together the spider web of connections.

00:46:12.000 And then when you like kind of imagine one of those little boards, right?

00:46:15.000 Like you watch a detective and you see all the different lines and the string being connected, right?

00:46:20.000 It's the same thing when you're vetting people.

00:46:23.000 You have to create these flowcharts.

00:46:25.000 You have to kind of connect all the dots and create these webs of people and connections so that you can see the influence operations.

00:46:34.000 And unfortunately, what we're, what we're witnessing now in the Trump administration is a foreign influence operation.

00:46:40.000 Not Israeli. 1.00

00:46:41.000 We're not talking about the Jews here. 0.90

00:46:42.000 I know that some of you, your ears may be perked up.

00:46:45.000 It's not that kind of a podcast here.

00:46:48.000 But when I'm talking about foreign influence, I'm talking about all of the foreign meddling by places like Russia, Qatar, Turkey, Islamic countries, Russia, China, right?

00:47:03.000 The CCP.

00:47:05.000 And what's interesting is watching this web of influencers and then their relationship to people in the administration.

00:47:14.000 So how do you identify this influencer cabinet?

00:47:18.000 Pipeline.

00:47:19.000 Well, you look at people's tweet history.

00:47:21.000 You look at who people hang out with.

00:47:23.000 You look at their associations.

00:47:25.000 You examine their spouses, you examine their colleagues.

00:47:29.000 You look at them to see who they brought on right and what we found and what i've identified and when I say we, it's not just me.

00:47:36.000 A lot of people have identified this but what I specifically have noticed is that there is a very disturbing trend and pattern of an influencer cabinet pipeline from the Wokereich, this conspiracy theorist I use that term because these people are conspiracy theorists.

00:47:55.000 They are.

00:47:55.000 They are making claims okay, without providing any receipts, providing any evidence.

00:48:00.000 Um look, i've been called a conspiracy theorist, but there was a point where you could be called a conspiracy theorist and you know whether it was pertaining to Covid or it was pertaining to I don't know election fraud.

00:48:13.000 They use that term to diminish what we were saying, because what we were saying is true and a lot of people then started to develop this mindset of, oh well, if you're called a conspiracy theorist, it's because you're actually right.

00:48:27.000 And unfortunately, what we've seen happen over the last two, three years is there's this group of influencers who they they it's like a form of psychological warfare you have to give them credit for how clever this is.

00:48:42.000 They thought to themselves, okay well, if I just say that i'm being victimized and i'm being called a conspiracy theorist, then obviously people on the right are going to relate to me, because people have been so uh, basically like tuned out from the term conspiracy theorists and racist and Nazi and all these other terms that these words don't have meaning anymore.

00:49:03.000 And so you have these actual conspiracy theorists, actual Nazis, actual racists, trying to take advantage of the fact that people have been desensitized on the right to this terminology and they're using it to push the envelope and get away with their sensationalism, their lies, their foreign influence operations.

00:49:25.000 Because what did people hear for the last eight to nine years?

00:49:29.000 Russia collusion Russia this Russia that Russia, this.

00:49:34.000 Oh, conspiracy theory, this conspiracy, this conspiracy theory, that.

00:49:39.000 And now nobody really cares.

00:49:41.000 So they're able to gaslight you when you call somebody a conspiracy theorist or you call somebody a racist or you call somebody a Nazi, when they're actually being Nazis right, and actually being conspiracy theorists, because we always said that this was going to be a case of the boy who cried wolf.

00:49:57.000 In that there are Nazis, there are real conspiracy, conspiracy theorists. 0.76

00:50:01.000 There are real racists.

00:50:02.000 Okay.

00:50:03.000 And what happened is when the radical left use these terms to flippantly accuse anybody, right?

00:50:10.000 Soccer moms of being domestic terrorists who didn't want their kids having to use the same bathroom as transgenders, people who believe the election was stolen, people who didn't want to take an experimental vaccine. 1.00

00:50:24.000 They overuse these words to the point where they almost made it so that these words don't have any meaning anymore.

00:50:32.000 So what do these influencers now do?

00:50:34.000 Well, they behave like hardcore Nazis. 0.91

00:50:36.000 They blame Charlie Kirk's assassination on the Jews in Israel. 0.98

00:50:40.000 They'll blame the Jews for literally every single thing in our country.

00:50:43.000 We've talked about this extensively, okay? 1.00

00:50:46.000 They will make wild claims like Brigitte Macrone has a penis, right? 1.00

00:50:51.000 That's one of these conspiracy theories out there. 0.98

00:50:54.000 And if you call them a conspiracy theorist or you call them a neo-Nazi, or if you say that they're engaging in white, like actual white supremacist behavior, I'm not talking about like calling Trump and his supporters white supremacists.

00:51:06.000 I'm talking about actual white supremacist rhetoric, actual neo-Nazi rhetoric, actual conspiratorial rhetoric.

00:51:13.000 It just doesn't have the same meaning anymore because everybody has been so desensitized to it.

00:51:19.000 So now what we have is, you know, a group of these out of control influencers who now have some of the largest podcasts in the world and they're able to actually relate to a lot of these people who may not necessarily like agree with their views,

00:51:35.000 but they're also not going to be outraged when they're called a Nazi or when they're pushing actual Nazism or when they're engaging in full-blown conspiracy theories because people have just kind of become like unfazed by that word.

00:51:51.000 So if you were to have heard the word Nazi like years and years and years ago, your ears would perk up. 0.85

00:51:56.000 You'd probably get a little nervous, be like, where, where, where? 0.82

00:51:58.000 Now, right, you could just shout Nazi, racist, conspiracy theorists.

00:52:02.000 And people just, they're kind of like in this drone mindset, right?

00:52:06.000 Where they keep on like droning on and they're not exactly like being influenced by that at all.

00:52:11.000 They're not really having a visceral effect.

00:52:13.000 They're not feeling the emotion of what those words actually mean.

00:52:17.000 The real meaning of those words that have now been completely diminished because they've been misused by the radical left for so long and nothing's really being done about it.

00:52:27.000 And we're watching the radicalization of a lot of people in our country, right?

00:52:32.000 A lot of people in our country are being radicalized by these conspiracy theories online that are really just rooted in an animosity for Jewish people, Israel, evangelical Christians, President Trump.

00:52:45.000 And they've been able to spread.

00:52:47.000 They've been able to spread.

00:52:49.000 And I think that it's really reached a breaking point because it has penetrated the cabinet.

00:52:56.000 And this is the pipeline.

00:52:57.000 You'd think that this would stay with the influencers, but unfortunately, we have seen now that there are some people who work in the Trump administration who have these views.

00:53:07.000 And, you know, a lot of this has really started with the revelation that Tucker Carlson's son, Buckley, works for the vice president, JD Vance.

00:53:16.000 And people thought, oh, well, you know, it's really alarming that Buckley works for JD.

00:53:22.000 And wow, did you hear Tucker?

00:53:24.000 And, oh, he made this really weird comment at Charlie Kirk's funeral about the hummus eaters killing Jesus and killing Charlie.

00:53:32.000 And, you know, some people then just said, oh, well, you know, it was just kind of a provocative comment.

00:53:36.000 I'm just going to keep on moving along.

00:53:38.000 Oh, it's not a big deal.

00:53:40.000 It doesn't matter that his son works for the vice president.

00:53:42.000 You know, and then we find out that all these different people like start to have these same views.

00:53:47.000 And a lot of these staffers who ended up working with Tucker Carlson now work for Tulsi Gabbard.

00:53:52.000 And oh, Tucker Carlson's former producer works for Tulsi Gabbard at ODNI.

00:53:57.000 Oh, wow.

00:53:57.000 Joe Kent, right, is friends with Tucker.

00:53:59.000 He's the director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

00:54:04.000 And what you realize is they have used these relationships with these podcasters and these influencers to traffic in these conspiracies into the administration.

00:54:15.000 And now we have reports out that some of these cabinet officials have actually been assisting the proliferation of these conspiracy theories, of this propaganda,

00:54:28.000 of this blood libel against Jewish people in the state of Israel, of these actual neo-Nazi anti-Trump conspiracy theories that are being generated by the IRGC and Hamas and Islamic terrorist organizations and then funneled through, right? 0.96

00:54:46.000 Funneled through as talking points to conservative influencers who then regurgitate this bullshit on their shows. 0.88

00:54:53.000 And then RT and all these like foreign publications, Muslim Brotherhood publications, Al Jazeera Qatar then clips that content, okay, the propaganda based off of lies and blood libel, and then they blast it out online and it's then further recycled and regurgitated. 0.92

00:55:10.000 And then this cycle is just a vicious cycle that keeps on repeating.

00:55:14.000 So after Joe Kent turned in his resignation letter several days ago, what did we see?

00:55:22.000 We saw that he said that Donald Trump was controlled by Netanyahu, that Donald Trump was controlled by Israel.

00:55:28.000 Again, doesn't show any evidence.

00:55:30.000 He says that his wife, who was killed by an ISIS terrorist while she was serving our country, actually was killed by Israel, right?

00:55:37.000 Even though he's on the record for years saying that his wife was killed by ISIS.

00:55:41.000 He then goes on to say, and we can get his resignation letter up on the screen.

00:55:45.000 We're going to be talking about this momentarily with my guest, Lee Smith of Tablet Magazine, the author of the China Matrix.

00:55:52.000 He's going to be joining me momentarily.

00:55:54.000 But I have to kind of set the stage for you to understand what's going on here, right?

00:55:58.000 Because you hear all these podcasters all the time, like I have sources and the government and oh, this person in the Trump administration messaged me and they try to say these things because they want to gain validity and they want to gain some kind of like respect for the blood libel, right?

00:56:15.000 Because people know that these conspiracies are just completely out of control, right?

00:56:19.000 They're not rooted in truth.

00:56:20.000 They're not rooted in any substance.

00:56:22.000 But if you're able to say something like, oh, a Trump official, a senior White House official, somebody in our Intel agency, somebody who works with Tulsi Gabbard, or in the case of Candace Owens, who said, oh, counterterrorism officials in our government told me that this is true.

00:56:41.000 Then, right, it gets picked up by the media and then people start to wonder, well, is this true?

00:56:46.000 Like, I mean, you see, anonymous sources are used constantly by reporters. 0.99

00:56:50.000 And this is the problem with modern day reporting: a lot of times it's total lies, it's complete bullshit. 0.98

00:56:56.000 And then other times, it's actually true.

00:56:58.000 And we're in this kind of age now where we're dealing with not just conspiracy theories, but the age of anonymous sources where people are kind of made to take a gamble on whether or not the information that they're receiving from these so-called anonymous sources is real or not, right?

00:57:13.000 So Joe Kent resigns.

00:57:15.000 And then one of the individuals at the center of Candace Owens's theory that Erica Kirk was at the Fort Huachuka Air Force facility in Arizona plotting the assassination of her husband.

00:57:33.000 Of course, this is not what I believe.

00:57:34.000 This is what Candace Owens has been promoting on her show. 1.00

00:57:37.000 This guy who apparently was the source, right?

00:57:40.000 And Candace Owens swore, his name is Mitch Snow, I believe, that he was vetted, right?

00:57:44.000 He was vetted by somebody in the Trump administration.

00:57:47.000 He was vetted by Intel officials, is what Candace Owens said.

00:57:50.000 He did an interview the other day on some kind of obscure podcast.

00:57:55.000 And they said, oh, well, Candace Owens says that you were vetted.

00:57:58.000 Who vetted you?

00:58:00.000 And then that's when everything just kind of exploded for Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent because Mitch Snow ended up admitting, oh, Joe Kent is the person who vetted me for Candace Owens, right?

00:58:13.000 So we get, we then started to realize that Joe Kent was Candace Owens' source for this information, right?

00:58:20.000 The lies that the French were trying to assassinate her, the lies that, oh, Israel was behind killing Charlie Kirk, the lie that Candace Owens spread that Kash Patel was covering up foreign influence and that Joe Kent was the hero of the Trump administration, trying to expose the fact that Israel killed Charlie Kirk, that Israel assassinated Charlie Kirk because he warned Donald Trump not to get involved in a war in Iran, right?

00:58:47.000 That is their theory.

00:58:48.000 And, you know, Joe Kent is now denying it.

00:58:51.000 He did an interview last night on Mark Levin.

00:58:54.000 We're going to play some of those clips.

00:58:56.000 I'm going to bring Lee Smith in to talk about this.

00:58:59.000 But it's very disturbing because Joe Kent isn't just some low-level official in the Trump administration.

00:59:05.000 This is the guy who is responsible for counterterrorism policy.

00:59:09.000 He was the director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

00:59:14.000 And unfortunately, we've had four Islamic terrorist attacks in our country over the last two weeks, three weeks, and several Americans have died.

00:59:23.000 And you have to ask yourself, like, why is our intel agencies, why is the director of national intelligence, why is the National Center for Counterterrorism not catching these Islamic terrorists before they open fire? 0.94

00:59:35.000 And then it just hits you like a brick in the head. 1.00

00:59:38.000 And you're like, holy shit. 0.99

00:59:40.000 The reason why we have all these Islamic terrorist attacks in our country is because the director of national counterterrorism is too busy listening to neo-Nazi podcasts and crackpot conspiracy theories and feeding content and lies to continue the spread of these conspiracy theories instead of actually doing his job to identify threats of Islamic terrorism. 0.99

01:00:04.000 And so Kent is out.

01:00:05.000 And now, really, the icing or the cherry on top of this cake was this report that came out today that I had really been hinting at for the last several weeks.

01:00:16.000 And yeah, it was reported today.

01:00:19.000 Get it up on the screen.

01:00:21.000 Joe Kent apparently is not just ending his, you know, his time as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center with his conspiracy theories and this very disrespectful letter to President Trump accusing President Trump of basically, you know, going to war for Israel and then going on Tucker Carlson's show and suggesting that the Trump administration was covering up the fact that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

01:00:50.000 But it actually came out today that Joe Kent said he told Michael Schellenberger that he would testify in the trial of Charlie Kirk's assassin, Tyler Robinson.

01:01:02.000 Not against Tyler Robinson, but for Tyler Robinson.

01:01:06.000 And so the director of national counterterrorism has now said that now former, right?

01:01:12.000 Former, because he resigned, that he is willing to advocate for the man who murdered Charlie Kirk because he wants to convince people that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

01:01:23.000 This is who's in charge of counterterrorism in our country.

01:01:26.000 And it's all under Tulsi Gabbard's watch.

01:01:29.000 And yet, Tulsi Gabbard is totally silent and it's kind of the elephant in the room.

01:01:33.000 So joining me now to discuss this dilemma and this, I'm just going to call it what it is.

01:01:40.000 It is a neo-Nazi.

01:01:42.000 It is a neo-Nazi foreign influence operation pipeline between radical influencers and Trump administration officials is Lee Smith, who works at the Tablet Magazine.

01:01:54.000 He's a journalist at Tablet Magazine, and he's also the author of the China Matrix.

01:01:58.000 So, Lee, thank you so much for joining me tonight on Loomer Unleash.

01:02:02.000 I really appreciate you coming on the show.

01:02:06.000 Thank you, Laura.

01:02:07.000 Thanks so much for having me, and I appreciate you too.

01:02:10.000 I really, I'm very grateful.

01:02:13.000 Thank you.

01:02:14.000 I don't know if you were able to listen to my opening monologue there, but it's become quite clear for a while now, and many of us have speculated that there are people in ODNI leaking a lot of these anti-Israel talking points.

01:02:30.000 And we've been saying it.

01:02:32.000 I know you've been reporting on this over the last several months.

01:02:34.000 I've been reporting on this the last several months.

01:02:38.000 And a lot of people have suspected that most of the leaks that come out of the intel community in the Trump administration to undermine our foreign policy, whether it be our dealings with Israel, our dealings with the Middle East, our dealings with Venezuela, have all come out of ODNI, right?

01:02:54.000 Because Tulsi Gabbard, of course, director of national intelligence is a Democrat and has a longstanding documented history of opposing President Trump's foreign policy and has decided to fill the ranks of these positions at ODNI with hardcore anti-Semites.

01:03:11.000 And you came out with a report today really kind of detailing this, asking the question if Tulsi Gabbard is going to be the next one to fall after, you know, just these outrageous accusations by Joe Kent against the Trump administration and complete silence from Tulsi Gabbard.

01:03:30.000 Well, that's one of the things that I find very bizarre because though she was right to explain what the role of an intelligence chief is to put information intelligence before the president who makes the decisions, having been elected by the American people, nonetheless, it was also, it's also her job as a Trump appointee to defend the policies of the president when she was testifying last week on the Hill, to defend the policies of the president in front of a very hostile audience.

01:04:00.000 And also the idea that neither she nor the vice president who reportedly met with Joe Kent before Kent filed, posted that really repugnant resignation letter, that neither of them were able to call or bring him off of the bring him off the brinking point.

01:04:21.000 And so again, the fact that the fact that neither the vice president nor especially the DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, was able to or mustered the courage to say, these are obscene lies.

01:04:33.000 The president, of course, is not under sway of foreign powers, just as he wasn't controlled by Russia, as people like John Brennan and James Comey said.

01:04:43.000 Of course, he's not under the sway of the government of Israel, any foreign power.

01:04:48.000 These are decisions that the president has made to defend the to defend the American homeland, to advance and protect America's peace and prosperity.

01:04:58.000 So yeah, I think it's very bad.

01:05:05.000 Today you tweeted, I'm going to read your tweet.

01:05:08.000 You said the podcasters and Trump officials who attach themselves like parasites to POTUS to draw power from him because they have no power of their own are losing because they lost the argument over Israel on the ground.

01:05:19.000 Me and Tablet Magazine.

01:05:20.000 And then, of course, there's a link to your article, your new article that just came out yesterday.

01:05:26.000 Who's the boss?

01:05:27.000 Joe Kent is out of the door at ODNI after blasting President Trump's Iran policy.

01:05:32.000 Is his boss, Tulsi Gabbard, next?

01:05:34.000 You know, it's interesting that you describe it that way too, right?

01:05:38.000 Because it's hard to not notice it's podcasters.

01:05:41.000 Never before in any presidential administration has a podcaster or any kind of podcasters really have this much relevance or this much sway.

01:05:51.000 And yet, unfortunately, we've seen that some of the top podcasters in America, like people like Candace Owens and people like Tucker Carlson, they have this very disturbing pipeline to some individuals in the administration who were brought in by Democrats.

01:06:08.000 I mean, it has to be said, right?

01:06:09.000 Because many of us warned against coalition building.

01:06:12.000 I know you were one of the people that warned against the coalition building.

01:06:16.000 We all knew that this was going to be a disaster.

01:06:18.000 I remember you calling me last year, us having many conversations about this, and it was only a matter of when, not if, but when it was going to blow up in everybody's face, Lee.

01:06:32.000 I mean, I think that, well, no, I was going to say that, look, one of the things that we've been reminded of while we've been concerned about the different people that have been brought into the administration, the fact is that the president, singularly, perhaps, among American presidents, has proved that he actually is the boss and he makes the call.

01:06:50.000 And so it certainly, I imagine it soothed a lot of nerves.

01:06:53.000 I know that I'm happy to see that the man I voted for in November is actually calling the shots.

01:07:00.000 Nonetheless, Laura, you're absolutely right.

01:07:02.000 And I would even say that the people who have said this is a coalition are wrong.

01:07:06.000 The president was elected because he's Donald Trump.

01:07:11.000 And what, you know, the most important thing, I think, that really drove people together and made people recognize who Donald Trump was and they didn't know beforehand was the fact that Donald Trump was shot in the head in Butler, Pennsylvania.

01:07:26.000 So the idea that somehow Trump was beholden to all these different figures who attached themselves to Trump, I think is preposterous.

01:07:34.000 I mean, I think that a lot of people have done good things on behalf of the president.

01:07:39.000 I think to a certain extent, Elon Musk did.

01:07:42.000 But also, we keep in mind, I mean, you know, it's the president who's the president who's running the show, not the influencers, not the various people who have come on board.

01:07:53.000 And the reason that a lot of these people attach themselves to Donald Trump is the same reason anyone does, because he's the president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world.

01:08:02.000 And the fact is that Tucker Carlson took a lot.

01:08:05.000 We note that Tucker Carlson and others did not attack Trump personally, knowing that that might get them in trouble.

01:08:11.000 So what they did was they attacked Trump's policies.

01:08:14.000 They attacked Trump appointees in order to stay close to the president.

01:08:19.000 Because again, once these people are cut off from the real source of American power, which is the White House, then they're nothing.

01:08:28.000 These are just people screaming insane ideas into a wind tunnel.

01:08:36.000 I agree with you, but I don't think it's just about being cut off from the White House because not all of these people who are giving kind of a platform or an audience to these chaos agents, right?

01:08:49.000 These podcaster chaos agents, as I like to call them, are in the White House.

01:08:53.000 They're cabinet officials, but they're not necessarily working in the White House.

01:08:57.000 And so how problematic is it, in your opinion, that Tulsi Gabbard still has not issued a statement today after it was revealed that Joe Kent apparently told this reporter that if it came to it, he would testify in the trial of Tyler Robinson, not against Tyler Robinson as the director of or the former director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

01:09:22.000 He could have done good, right?

01:09:23.000 He could have actually testified and talked about how Tyler Robinson appears to have been in this radical trans Antifa terror cell, possibly maybe even that Groyper terror cell, right?

01:09:34.000 There's a lot of crossover between these trans movements and furry movements and the Groyper movements. 0.79

01:09:40.000 But instead of even using his position to explore these radical left terror cells in America, like Trantifa, he decided to completely fabricate, right?

01:09:50.000 fabricate a narrative of foreign influence.

01:09:54.000 And Tulsi Gabbard was his boss, whether she wants to admit it or not.

01:09:58.000 She can deflect all she wants during her Senate hearings and say that Donald Trump was his boss. 1.00

01:10:02.000 But at the end of the day, Tulsi Gabbard is the person who brought Joe Kent in as her interim chief of staff.

01:10:08.000 And then he was transitioned into this role as director of national counterterrorism.

01:10:12.000 Do you think that Tulsi Gabbard should resign?

01:10:17.000 I mean, I don't have a lot of opinions on that.

01:10:21.000 I will say again that I think that the, I mean, it was last week for me that it was most notable.

01:10:27.000 I mean, the fact that the DNI didn't say anything in front of at least a half hostile audience, didn't say anything to defend the policies of the president.

01:10:36.000 I found that, I found it shocking again, because that's the job of a Trump appointee.

01:10:42.000 When you go to the Hill, you defend the policies of the president you serve.

01:10:47.000 Look, I want to say something about the Joe Kemp thing.

01:10:49.000 And I mean, your reporting on this has been fantastic.

01:10:52.000 And a lot of people have noted the, you know, the very disgusting and very disturbing aspects that this may help Charlie Kirk's assassin get off.

01:11:01.000 There's another point to this, and that is, Laura, certainly you've covered a lot of the anti-Israel stuff.

01:11:07.000 You've covered a lot of the anti-Israel protests.

01:11:09.000 You covered the meltdown throughout the United States, the different college campuses, the protests, these vicious protests.

01:11:16.000 I was assaulted.

01:11:17.000 I was assaulted on these college campuses. 0.97

01:11:20.000 I had a Hezbollah and a Hamas flag literally shoved in my face, and I was spit on by these pro-Hamas radicals calling me a kite and telling me that I should be killed by Hamas. 0.87

01:11:31.000 It's all on video. 0.50

01:11:32.000 So I've seen it firsthand.

01:11:33.000 I know it's not a conspiracy theory.

01:11:35.000 No, absolutely.

01:11:38.000 And we know that there are foreign powers that are pouring money into anti-Israel and chiefly anti-American activism.

01:11:50.000 So when the former director of the NCTC says stuff like this, it's so outrageous, right?

01:11:57.000 So it's very destructive for this particular case, right?

01:11:59.000 For the case against Charlie Kirk's assassin, but it's also very destructive.

01:12:04.000 It obscures, it's so crazy.

01:12:07.000 It obscures the reality that there are really foreign powers that are putting money into anti-American, anti-Israel activism here in the United States.

01:12:17.000 So I see it as a dual problem.

01:12:22.000 There are two different issues going on here.

01:12:24.000 And I think that needs to be brought out as well, because this is essential for our country that we do understand the foreign powers that are messing here with our internal politics.

01:12:33.000 But the idea that this was a part of Charlie Kirk's murder, and as I report in this piece, Joe Kent first said what he was telling law enforcement officials, he thought that the Iranians might be behind it.

01:12:46.000 So of course, when he resigns and he appears to be in trouble with a reported investigation, now he starts blaming Israel, right?

01:12:54.000 Because that's the convenient excuse now for the anti-Semitic podcast crew, right?

01:13:02.000 So he's misdirecting attention from the bad things that he did and trying to obscure facts by putting on Israel. 0.50

01:13:10.000 But the nuttiness of the whole thing, again, the other thing that's getting obscured is we do have a problem with bad foreign actors in this country. 0.82

01:13:20.000 We do.

01:13:22.000 And I'm not saying that there isn't any foreign influence.

01:13:24.000 And maybe there was some foreign influence in Charlie Kirk's assassination.

01:13:28.000 I mean, look, you had Tyler Robinson.

01:13:30.000 And what I find to be really interesting about Tyler Robinson's case is we were told that there was a Discord channel and there were all these tweets online of people with all these Palestinian flags.

01:13:39.000 I mean, I have to say it, Palestinian flags in their bio saying Charlie Kirk is going to die today.

01:13:46.000 Charlie Kirk is going to get shot in the throat. 0.89

01:13:48.000 There was a tweet online posted by somebody with a Palestinian flag in their bio and a trans flag that said that. 0.98

01:13:54.000 And I saw there was a report and people have connected that there were these like militant transgender militias, essentially.

01:14:01.000 And they were a bunch of gays and transgenders training each other how to use weapons to fight fascism. 1.00

01:14:08.000 That's what they, that's what they call themselves. 0.96

01:14:10.000 And one of the leaders of this movement is a Palestinian woman.

01:14:15.000 And the group that was responsible for training these transgenders, and there was previous reporting on this too, apparently received funding from overseas in the Middle East, right?

01:14:26.000 Specifically, Qatar.

01:14:28.000 And so we were told by the FBI director that they were going to be looking into all 20, they said like 20 or 22 individuals.

01:14:36.000 And I'm sure you heard the same thing because it was news for a while who were in the Discord chat.

01:14:41.000 Like who knew?

01:14:41.000 Because they said that it was premeditated, excuse me, and that people knew before Charlie Kirk was assassinated that Tyler Robinson was going to do it.

01:14:50.000 Right.

01:14:50.000 And then there was chatter apparently in this Discord.

01:14:53.000 That's what was reported after the fact.

01:14:55.000 And then members said, wow, like he really did it.

01:14:57.000 He really did it.

01:14:58.000 So to this day, we still have no idea who those members are from that Discord channel.

01:15:02.000 And Joe Kent could have used his position as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center to go look into those transgender terror cells, right? 1.00

01:15:10.000 That's his job.

01:15:11.000 You have domestic terrorism, you have foreign terrorism. 0.62

01:15:14.000 But it's really an indictment on the failed leadership of Tulsi Gabbard and also the failed leadership of Joe Kent.

01:15:20.000 That the president of the United States on September 25th, really shortly after, about a week and a half after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, issued a directive designating Antifa as a terrorist organization and then ordered the DOJ and the respective agencies in his administration to investigate these terror pipelines of Antifa in America.

01:15:41.000 Did Joe Kent ever do that or was he too busy feeding lies to Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and Max Blumenthal?

01:15:48.000 Yeah, well, this should have all of us concerned because there's a, I mean, look, neither of us can see into the future and see what's going to happen in the 28 election.

01:15:58.000 But should the Democrats win in the 28 election, I mean, it's possible we could be in a worse place in three years than we were two years ago.

01:16:07.000 And the fact that these Antifa people are still on the loose, the fact that there's been no real effort.

01:16:13.000 I mean, you know, I'm sure FBI Director Kash Patel is on the ball and looking into it.

01:16:19.000 But this was a real opportunity to go after Antifa and to really nail some scalps to the wall. 0.82

01:16:26.000 Instead, we've been going through mayhem and tragically, Joe Kent has only augmented the madness because, yeah, you're right.

01:16:35.000 Antifa is a big problem around the country.

01:16:38.000 And we had an opportunity to really go after that 100%.

01:16:42.000 And that's not happened.

01:16:46.000 And it's really, as I said before, an indictment on the failed leadership of Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent because we had really a referendum, right?

01:16:56.000 This extraordinary election victory in November.

01:16:59.000 We defeat the radical left.

01:17:00.000 President Trump has the most miraculous and amazing political comeback in American history.

01:17:06.000 And everybody thought, all right, we're going to dismantle the radical left networks.

01:17:10.000 We're going to shut down all these radical 501c3s.

01:17:12.000 We're going to designate Antifa.

01:17:14.000 We're going after all these networks.

01:17:16.000 And I mean, I don't know about you, but have you seen a single Antifa terrorist or any of these Islamic terror networks operating on U.S. soil be shut down?

01:17:25.000 I mean, every single week, Loomer unleashes outside of the White House.

01:17:29.000 And we see people wearing Hamas and Hezbollah flags and bandanas and carrying the flag of the IRGC Lee chanting death to America.

01:17:36.000 I mean, we document this every single week.

01:17:38.000 Loomer unleashes outside the White House or up on Capitol Hill filming these domestic Islamic terrorists and Antifa insurgents. 0.94

01:17:46.000 So I just, I'm trying to understand what Joe Kent accomplished and whether or not, right, he is just an extension of this foreign influence operation.

01:17:56.000 Because if I wanted to extend the terror threat in America, what would I do?

01:18:02.000 I would have somebody basically positioned as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center who maybe has the image, right?

01:18:11.000 Combat veteran, has a wife who, you know, was killed by a terrorist.

01:18:16.000 to create this image of false hope for the American people that they're actually going to make you safe.

01:18:23.000 They're actually going to crack down on terrorism.

01:18:25.000 Nobody's going to suspect that the guy whose wife was killed by ISIS terrorists is going to be blaming everything on the Jews.

01:18:32.000 But it's been absolutely incredible to watch Joe Kent go from talking about the threat of Iran, talking about the threat of ISIS, to now even blaming his wife's tragic murder on Israel.

01:18:44.000 Not ISIS, even though it's been well documentedly, he's blaming it on the Jews.

01:18:50.000 Well, Laura, I think this actually goes back to something else that you've reported and you've really been on this, which is the fact that, look, again, I think we agree it was not a coalition that won for Donald Trump.

01:19:02.000 What it was is that Donald Trump promised to make America normal again, right?

01:19:07.000 That we weren't going to have these different lunatics running around college campuses and running around American cities and hoisting the Palestinian flag in our nation's capital. 0.95

01:19:16.000 We were going to return to something normal.

01:19:18.000 And thank goodness that terrified and alarmed many ordinary Americans who said, you know, even though I don't love Donald Trump, Donald Trump is a normal American guy.

01:19:28.000 I'm going to vote for Donald Trump.

01:19:30.000 But what happens when you have when basically you're promoting not Donald Trump, but people who have pushed themselves into the Trump circle, who are pushing instead the Jew hate, right? 0.80

01:19:45.000 Who are pushing these freaks, who are pushing the Groypers, who are pushing this anti-Israel, anti-Jew paranoia. 0.98

01:19:52.000 I mean, that really kind of evens the score.

01:19:54.000 So what are people going to say?

01:19:55.000 Like, well, you know, I don't, I, of course, I despise Hamas, but I'm not sure that I love these, you know, these Adolf Hitler fanboys either.

01:20:05.000 So that's been incredibly destructive.

01:20:07.000 I mean, again, that's the podcasters.

01:20:09.000 And unfortunately, some of the people inside the administration have tolerated this much too much.

01:20:14.000 So that's a very big deal.

01:20:16.000 One of the things that I'll say about foreign influence, something happened, which I consider very significant this past weekend.

01:20:22.000 I'm sure you saw it too, Laura.

01:20:24.000 You may have talked about it.

01:20:25.000 But the clip coming out of The Economist, the interview with Tucker Carlson, where he starts mouthing Chinese Communist Party talking points about how China is so big, China is inevitable, that the United States has to share power with China.

01:20:39.000 So I think that gives us a very, very interesting insight into what's been happening, certainly for the last year.

01:20:46.000 We'd been accustomed to thinking that a lot of this activity was going on on the left, the Democrats being structurally the pro-China party.

01:20:54.000 And now that you see sort of the prince of anti-Trump schemers, Tucker Carlson, mouthing pro-Chinese Communist Party talking points, I think we should be able to draw a big picture and see what's happening here in the United States.

01:21:09.000 Well, and it wasn't just his economist interview.

01:21:11.000 I mean, he did the interview with The Economist.

01:21:13.000 And of course, I saw, I reported on that as well, talked about it just absolutely ridiculous, talking about how it's inevitable that Taiwan is going to fall to China and that we're not going to get involved and that the United States should just allow for Taiwan to be completely invaded by China.

01:21:29.000 But what was even more disturbing than that is, you know, what I've noticed, and I tweeted about this, is Tucker Carlson seems to time his interviews and to really time the release of these provocative statements as it relates to the statements of loyalty or statements of support for our foreign adversaries, whether it be Islamic adversaries or Russia or China.

01:21:54.000 And he always does it when President Trump is getting ready to make a big decision or make some big travel plan as it pertains or relates to the country that is being discussed.

01:22:06.000 So, for example, when President Trump was trying to negotiate the release of the hostages in Gaza, what did Tucker Carlson do?

01:22:16.000 He flew to Qatar.

01:22:18.000 He started doing a lot of interviews with the Iranians and the Qataris and talking about how Hamas really isn't a terrorist organization.

01:22:25.000 Hamas is just a political group. 0.84

01:22:26.000 That's what he said.

01:22:27.000 It's a political gathering.

01:22:30.000 And I tweeted this and you can show all the different examples.

01:22:33.000 When President Trump wanted to carry out airstrikes in Nigeria, Tucker Carlson said, oh, we're going to have a war in Africa. 0.86

01:22:41.000 We're going to have a bunch of American white men from Iowa and from the Midwest go and die for a bunch of Africans. 1.00

01:22:50.000 That's actually not what happened. 0.86

01:22:52.000 And then, you know, we had these calculated airstrikes and he had this guy named Bob Amsterdam, who is a lobbyist for the Nigerian government.

01:22:59.000 Of course, the Nigerian government is an Islamic government and they are persecuting Christians. 0.93

01:23:05.000 And what does he do?

01:23:06.000 He says that it's a conspiracy theory without disclosing the fact that this guy is a lobbyist.

01:23:11.000 When the president was talking about Operation Midnight Hammer and wanted to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, what does Tucker Carlson do?

01:23:18.000 He interviews the president of Iran and says that Iran never actually tried to assassinate President Trump, that it was a lie and that President Trump must be losing his mind because that never happened.

01:23:29.000 When President Trump invaded Venezuela and captured Nicolas Maduro with like overwhelming approval from everybody in Venezuela, I mean, it's like you're absolutely right.

01:23:42.000 I mean, he says it's globo hobo, right?

01:23:45.000 And now what do we have?

01:23:46.000 He's mimicking Chinese propaganda.

01:23:49.000 Why?

01:23:50.000 Because this week, if it wasn't because of the Iran war, President Trump would have been in China this week.

01:23:55.000 President Trump would have been visiting and meeting with Xi Jinping this week.

01:23:59.000 And we know that the president has since rescheduled his meeting with Xi Jinping.

01:24:05.000 And Tucker Carlson makes these inflammatory talking points. 0.88

01:24:08.000 Well, you think that the Chinese don't know that his son, Buckley, is working in the office of the vice president when he's making these very provocative statements.

01:24:16.000 So I find it to be rather not just provocative, disrespectful, but also treasonous that he times these foreign influence interviews, right?

01:24:27.000 There really needs to be some kind of article.

01:24:29.000 Maybe this could be your next article, Lee, kind of like an examination of what crosses the line.

01:24:35.000 Like when does something, when is something not journalism and when is it foreign lobbying?

01:24:39.000 You know, this is a this is a fascinating issue.

01:24:42.000 And of course, it's something we've all been thinking about for a while.

01:24:46.000 This is very destructive and very dangerous.

01:24:48.000 And of course, you know, the reports have shown that Joe Kent may have leaked some of the information he had to media, including Tucker Carlson.

01:24:57.000 I mean, these are according to reports.

01:24:58.000 I have no insight into this at all.

01:25:00.000 But yeah, I agree.

01:25:05.000 I think at a certain point, we talked about this during Russia Gate all the time, right?

01:25:10.000 When there were people at the Washington Post, New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, wherever they were, and they were running a propaganda campaign to destroy Donald Trump.

01:25:20.000 And as it turns out, to destabilize the government of the United States.

01:25:24.000 So I see no reason why people who ostensibly align themselves with the right, why they should not be at least subject to the same sort of criticism and the same sort of scrutiny from media.

01:25:37.000 We're not talking about, I'm not talking about investigations or prosecutions right now.

01:25:42.000 What I'm talking about is that, right, if the people at the Washington Post, the serial, the people who served as a platform for intelligence operations, for leaks of classified intelligence, if these are bad guys, then what about some of the people on the right who are doing exactly the same thing?

01:26:01.000 And I think they should at the very least be subject to the same sort of criticism and the same sort of scrutiny.

01:26:07.000 When we talk about, when we talk about, you know, this, this, this meme we see or this quote we see all the time on Twitter, you can't hate the media enough.

01:26:14.000 Well, I'm afraid it's coming to a point where we might be able to say you can't hate, you can't hate phony influencers enough because they've caused an awful lot of trouble for the president and for the country.

01:26:29.000 And it's not journalism.

01:26:30.000 It's lobbying, right?

01:26:31.000 It's foreign lobbying.

01:26:32.000 It's unregistered lobbying.

01:26:35.000 And that's what they're trying to do.

01:26:36.000 They're trying to use this culture of influence journalism or independent media to say, oh, I'm just having a conversation.

01:26:45.000 Or as Tucker Carlson likes to say, I'm just asking questions, right?

01:26:49.000 I'm just asking questions.

01:26:51.000 Well, believe it or not, we actually had laws in this country about Americans being able to just ask questions of foreign governments, especially asking questions of foreign governments and influencing policies, right?

01:27:04.000 When you are trying to present yourself as a representative of the United States government and you're not, right?

01:27:11.000 It's called the Logan Act.

01:27:12.000 It's called FARA.

01:27:13.000 But what we saw, and this is what I said in my opening tonight, and you have to give them credit because it's actually quite brilliant.

01:27:19.000 And maybe you've picked up on this.

01:27:21.000 Maybe you haven't.

01:27:23.000 What they're doing is they're basically running a copy and paste, copy and paste, Lee, that's what it is, of RussiaGate.

01:27:33.000 That's what they're doing.

01:27:34.000 And they're absolutely.

01:27:36.000 But what they're doing, though, Lee, is they're taking advantage of the way that the GOP and people were desensitized to these terms of Russian interference, foreign interference, foreign collusion, conspiracy theories, right?

01:27:55.000 Russia, Russia, Russia, Qatar, Qatar, Qatar.

01:27:57.000 And so now, right, when you hear these things, because the media participated in these foreign influence operations for so long, a lot of conservatives don't take it seriously anymore.

01:28:08.000 So when you tell them, oh, this is a foreign influence operation, this is like Russian propaganda, like actual Russian propaganda, not made up Russian propaganda with like a steel dossier, right?

01:28:18.000 Actual Russian propaganda with Dugan reposting Tucker Carlson and talking about all the best influencers that people should follow and monitor, right?

01:28:26.000 Like actual Russian collusion.

01:28:28.000 People don't take it seriously anymore.

01:28:31.000 I totally agree.

01:28:32.000 RussiaGate has turned out to be great for the Russians. 1.00

01:28:35.000 Yes.

01:28:36.000 Because that's what these guys are using.

01:28:37.000 They're using RussiaGate as cover.

01:28:40.000 We're pushing real Russian propaganda.

01:28:43.000 I absolutely agree.

01:28:45.000 No one's going to stand up and say, look, I mean, I covered RussiaGate as much as anyone.

01:28:49.000 But it's very hard for people to go like, wait a second, this is real Russian propaganda.

01:28:54.000 It's actually real.

01:28:55.000 Right.

01:28:56.000 Without people saying, wait a minute, I don't get it.

01:28:58.000 This is too confusing.

01:29:00.000 On the other hand, I do think I am confident in the good sense of the American people, when there are influencers who are promoting Alexander Dugan or these other garbage individuals, or they're promoting these foreign countries. 0.93

01:29:13.000 I think a lot of Americans see this like, that's just disgusting. 0.84

01:29:17.000 I don't care what they say about the Moscow Metro.

01:29:20.000 I don't care what they say about Russian supermarkets.

01:29:23.000 I don't care what they say about the benefits of Sharia law. 0.83

01:29:26.000 The whole thing just seems appalling to me.

01:29:29.000 And I love the United States and these guys are grossing me out.

01:29:32.000 So I think that finally it comes down to, it comes down to the good common sense, the hoarse sense of the American public.

01:29:40.000 And Laura, I mean, really, that's how I see the work you do and the work that I see I do. 0.52

01:29:45.000 We are out to represent solid Americans who know what truth, who know what garbage looks like. 1.00

01:29:52.000 And we speak out for that and we report that. 0.98

01:29:56.000 But yeah, what you're saying about Russia Gate being used as cover, it's disgusting.

01:30:01.000 There's another thing too, that Russagate, RussiaGate and other bad things that have happened over the last decade have made so many people, especially on the right, especially Trump supporters, distrust the press entirely, which of course we have plenty of reason to do so.

01:30:18.000 What a lot of these people are doing, whether it's Tucker Carlson, whoever it is, they're preying on the anxiety, the fears, and the anger of the American public.

01:30:29.000 What the right should have done, what right-wing media personalities should have done and said, look, I understand that you don't trust different people and you shouldn't.

01:30:39.000 I don't either.

01:30:40.000 What I'm going to do is I'm going to do my best to relay my reporting to you, my insight to you, my understanding of what the world looks like.

01:30:48.000 They didn't do that.

01:30:49.000 They preyed on their fears because these people are predators.

01:30:53.000 They're very sinister, very bad people who have been doing this to our public.

01:30:59.000 Absolutely.

01:31:00.000 And, you know, not only do they distrust the press, but they've also been able to weaponize Russia collusion and the Russia gate to carry out, you know, kind of like I said, a blueprint of Russia Gate, but actual Russia gate, not made up Russia gate, but they're, and they're also replicating it with other countries, right?

01:31:17.000 So it's not just Russia, it's Turkey, it's Qatar, it's Iran, it's a lot of different countries.

01:31:23.000 And unfortunately, unfortunately now, we've seen that this distrust for the media has now turned into an anti-Semitic trope because the same people that say don't trust the media are saying, well, the Jews control the media.

01:31:36.000 And so now people like you and I, right, we're told, oh, well, you know, you work for Tablet.

01:31:42.000 Oh, you're pushing Zionist propaganda.

01:31:45.000 You're an Israeli agent. 0.51

01:31:46.000 Oh, Laura Loomer is Jewish. 0.99

01:31:48.000 Okay, well, she's just pushing Israeli propaganda. 0.99

01:31:51.000 And even if you show everybody all the receipts and you show everybody all the documentation and all the evidence and you show them how they're being manipulated by this web of foreign influence and you, I said it in my monologue tonight, like you act like one of these detectives from these 1950s and 1960s movies and you print out the photos and you put the safety pin on the wall and you make a whole big show eventually.

01:32:14.000 People will still say that it's that it's Zionist propaganda or that it's Israeli spy work.

01:32:21.000 It's Israeli spy work. 0.96

01:32:22.000 It's just we got to a point now where people actually have brain rot.

01:32:25.000 They can't think for that.

01:32:26.000 I'm confident. 1.00

01:32:27.000 I'm confident that most Americans, most Jews, most Christians, they know that that's garbage. 1.00

01:32:36.000 They recognize Israel. 0.99

01:32:38.000 They recognize Israel as a very important American ally.

01:32:42.000 Israel is proving, as I wrote in this tablet piece today, it's proving to be the most important wartime ally we've had since Winston Churchill held off the Nazis until FDR could get into World War II and help defeat the Nazis.

01:32:54.000 So Israel, most Americans understand that.

01:32:57.000 And also most Americans understand that Jews are at the root of America.

01:33:03.000 You hear people talking about, oh, the Schofield Bible and this biblical commentary from 1901, that's what fooled everyone into being Zionists. 0.98

01:33:10.000 No, the reason that there are towns like Goshen, New York, towns named after Goshen, towns named after Jerusalem, it's not because of anything like that.

01:33:21.000 Because the people who settled this country believed that they themselves were living, they had modeled themselves, modeled their pilgrimage to the new world, modeled it after the Jews of the Old Testament. 0.98

01:33:35.000 And hence, if you read American literature, if you read American history from the 17th, 18th, 19th century, the different names of people come from the Bible.

01:33:44.000 Why?

01:33:44.000 Because we revered the Jews.

01:33:46.000 Americans revere the Jews. 0.82

01:33:48.000 Americans are at the root of our founding.

01:33:51.000 So most Americans understand this.

01:33:54.000 The people who are turning into, who are falling for anti-Semitic propaganda, these people, God bless them, may God save their souls.

01:34:06.000 Once you fall down that trap, it's very hard to get out.

01:34:09.000 And the way that I think about it is anti-Semitism is the curse of anti-Semitism, right? 1.00

01:34:15.000 Because what happens if you start thinking like this and you start believing these stupid, foolish, self-destructive things, you can't think straight, right? 0.99

01:34:25.000 You can't think straight for yourself, for your family, for your community. 1.00

01:34:29.000 That's your curse.

01:34:30.000 Once you start to think that the entire world is shaped by Jews, that you have no control over your own fate, and that you can't make decisions over your family or community, that's a tragedy for you. 0.84

01:34:44.000 That's going to come back much more on you than it will on the Jews. 0.96

01:34:48.000 That's how I see it.

01:34:49.000 Nonetheless, I agree with you to see this stuff spreading on social media and to see this stuff not just now on the left, but on the right in much smaller numbers.

01:34:59.000 And it's not in, it's not on 4chan.

01:35:01.000 It's not on 8chan.

01:35:03.000 It's not on Reddit.

01:35:04.000 It's actually permeating.

01:35:06.000 Like there are people I know, like very well-off people, people that are totally normal, doctors, school teachers.

01:35:14.000 I mean, people that I know in politics, people who I've known for 12 years, and they're like, oh, well, they'll make these weird comments when I'm on the phone with them.

01:35:23.000 And they're like, oh, well, obviously you must think like Erica Kirk killed her husband, right?

01:35:27.000 I'm like, what are you talking about?

01:35:29.000 Like, oh, well, clearly, like, you know, that kind of bullet couldn't just go through Charlie's neck.

01:35:34.000 It would have just blown his whole head off.

01:35:36.000 Like, clearly, this was like an Israeli operation. 0.91

01:35:39.000 And these are not like crazy people.

01:35:41.000 These are very established people saying this stuff.

01:35:44.000 And it's horrifying to me.

01:35:46.000 It's horrifying hearing people who I've actually respected say these things to me.

01:35:51.000 And I don't even talk to some people anymore because I just, I cannot believe that people are this depraved.

01:35:58.000 We could see it heading this way a little bit.

01:36:01.000 You could see evidence of it with Russia Gate.

01:36:04.000 That once people on the left started to fall for this conspiracy theory that Donald Trump was controlled by Vladimir Putin.

01:36:11.000 And once this started to, and then COVID, of course, once these things started to pollute our information ecosystem, you could see a friend of mine, a tablet, puts it very well.

01:36:22.000 He said, you know, you could construct a conspiracy theory without Jews, but that would be like having an orchestra without a string section, right?

01:36:31.000 So at a certain point, the Jews are always going to be inserted into some mad conspiracy theory. 0.81

01:36:38.000 So in a way, I mean, in a way, I've seen this building for at least a decade now.

01:36:43.000 And so it doesn't surprise me that much.

01:36:47.000 Nonetheless, I'm still confident in the good sense of the American people, though I hear it too, Laura.

01:36:52.000 I hear it from people in Washington.

01:36:54.000 I hear it from people in New York.

01:36:57.000 And it's extremely poisonous and extremely dangerous. 0.59

01:37:03.000 Nonetheless, I think the people, the people who will pay the highest price for anti-Semitism are the anti-Semites. 0.74

01:37:10.000 Historically, that's how it looks.

01:37:12.000 Going back to the Bible, that's who pays most dearly. 0.96

01:37:19.000 Another thing that I wanted to talk to you about, I posted earlier this morning, and I'm going to get this tweet pulled up, but I posted earlier this morning about how I truly do believe that there's going to be another 9-11 style attack. 0.52

01:37:33.000 And I think that our adversaries, our enemies, Islamic terrorists are taking advantage. 1.00

01:37:39.000 I mean, we see this in the way that Islamic groups, designated terrorist organizations are amplifying these trad Catholics, right? 0.99

01:37:48.000 You see that there's this very weird alliance between designated Islamic terror groups and they're starting to amplify each other.

01:37:54.000 And it's like, whoa, why are conservative Catholics amplifying a designated Islamic terrorist organization that is supporting Rashida Talibur Ilhan Omar?

01:38:02.000 And you start to see all these conservative influencers talk about how great Islamic culture is and go on all these trips to the Muslim countries and start temping for all these Muslim nations.

01:38:13.000 And what I'm worried about, especially now that we see that, you know, the shocking resignation of Joe Kent and just these outbursts where he's now trying to aid Charlie Kirk's assassin, blaming Israel for killing his wife, even though it was ISIS, right?

01:38:27.000 Goes on and on and on.

01:38:29.000 You have the person in charge of monitoring terrorism and preventing, right? 0.94

01:38:34.000 His job is counterterrorism in America, believing that the biggest terror threat in America are Jews.

01:38:41.000 The biggest terror threat are Jewish people, not Muslim terrorists, not the millions of Iranian proxies or the illegal aliens or the fact that we have ISIS in all 50 states, according to the FBI. 0.88

01:38:53.000 None of that. 0.99

01:38:54.000 No, he believes that Jewish people are the biggest threat, just like Candace Owens believes that your local Chabad is the biggest terror threat in your community, just like Tucker Carlson seems to believe that Jewish people are the most violent people in the world. 0.98

01:39:09.000 He says that Israel is the most violent country in the world, right? 0.99

01:39:13.000 That's what he says.

01:39:14.000 So what does it mean for the safety of the American people and the future of national security when the people who are in charge of presenting intelligence reports to the president of the United States and delivering a counterterrorism strategy for national security officials, right?

01:39:33.000 That's Tulsi Gabbard. 0.91

01:39:34.000 Like she's the one who's in charge here.

01:39:36.000 Joe Kent worked with her.

01:39:39.000 What does that mean for the future of America?

01:39:41.000 And do you think that our national security and counterterrorism strategy is currently compromised, given the fact that a bunch of Holocaust deniers, Jew haters, and just like rabid anti-Israel conspiracy theorists and Islamic sympathizers seem to be occupying ODNI?

01:39:59.000 I know a lot of people were extremely concerned.

01:40:02.000 A lot of people in my community where I live were extremely concerned about the attack on the Detroit, West Bloomfield, Michigan synagogue.

01:40:14.000 They were extremely, many, though many don't listen to Tucker Carlson, of course, but they heard about it and they were very concerned about what he was saying about Chabad.

01:40:22.000 And, you know, I mean, I mean, Chabad, as far as I'm concerned, I mean, Chabad, you know, I know the point of Chabad is to augment and support and cultivate Jewish life in Jewish communities.

01:40:39.000 But, you know, I'm not Jewish, but Chabad, I think, is good for any community.

01:40:44.000 I mean, it's just such a beautiful group, a beautiful group of people.

01:40:47.000 And so people were very worried about that.

01:40:49.000 And more something we talked about before we traded a message or two about it was my concerns, your concerns as well.

01:40:56.000 You talk about a mass casualty event and attack in the United States.

01:41:00.000 Yeah, I'm extremely concerned about that.

01:41:02.000 And this is, you know, we've had a lot of, a lot of problem people here for a long time.

01:41:07.000 But what happened after Joe Biden opened up the borders of this country, kept them open for four years.

01:41:13.000 The number of bad people who kept in, who came in during that period is very, very high, right?

01:41:22.000 So that's actually been my concern, right?

01:41:25.000 A lot of the illegal aliens from Latin America, that's a big problem for our country. 1.00

01:41:31.000 But for me, one of the big focuses has really been on people, terrorists.

01:41:36.000 and terror supporters who have crossed our borders.

01:41:39.000 And if we look at the different problems at Columbia University, for instance, there's Mammoun Khalil, who's still here.

01:41:45.000 There's Mossan Madawi.

01:41:47.000 He's here as well.

01:41:48.000 And these are people who went out there and caused big problems at Columbia.

01:41:52.000 They weren't just protesting.

01:41:54.000 They weren't just exercising their free speech.

01:41:56.000 And of course, they have no free speech rights because they're not American citizens, right? 0.81

01:42:01.000 But these were people who helped who incited violence against Jews, not just against Israel, but Jews at college campuses around the country.

01:42:12.000 So yeah, I'm extremely worried about that. 0.97

01:42:15.000 And if you look actually at what's happened over the last year, the different attacks, the different attacks waged by Muslim terrorists in this country.

01:42:25.000 I mean, we've all read the reports about what might have happened in Michigan.

01:42:29.000 Had this guy not been stopped?

01:42:31.000 Had this guy driven a different way?

01:42:33.000 Have the security guards not been there?

01:42:35.000 Had the security guards not, and really I think that the FBI deserves tremendous credit for that, for training the security guards at this synagogue.

01:42:45.000 And I'm certain that they're doing this around the rest of the country as well, which is great.

01:42:49.000 And so I certainly commend Kash Patel and others at the FBI for it.

01:42:54.000 But what would have happened had that gone the other way?

01:42:57.000 I mean, we're talking about kids in school because that's a lot of what Chabad does. 1.00

01:43:01.000 We're talking about kids in school.

01:43:03.000 We're talking about teachers.

01:43:04.000 We're talking about parents.

01:43:05.000 I mean, there were a lot of people there at that time.

01:43:08.000 So yes, this is one of the things that definitely has me concerned.

01:43:11.000 And the idea that there's a lot of cover being put down for this by people, by the anti-Semites, by the Jew haters, by people who say, Yeah, making excuses for it.

01:43:23.000 I mean, to the point where it's now entering politics.

01:43:26.000 I mean, in Michigan, you have a Muslim candidate running for U.S. Senate by the name of Abdul al-Syed.

01:43:33.000 And instead of expressing horror and condemnation for this Islamic terrorist attack that happened on a Jewish school, he said, well, they had it coming. 1.00

01:43:43.000 I mean, he literally issued a campaign statement saying they had it coming. 0.87

01:43:48.000 And said that if Israel hadn't apparently killed his brother or killed his brother's kids, apparently his brother was a member of Hezbollah.

01:43:56.000 Yeah, no, this is actually a very big concern.

01:44:00.000 People don't understand exactly what happened here.

01:44:02.000 Yeah.

01:44:03.000 People don't understand what happened.

01:44:04.000 First of all, there's nothing confirming this guy's claims or his friends' claims that he was rattled by the fact is two brothers and his this and that were killed.

01:44:17.000 One of this guy's brother was a Hezbollah commander in charge of a rocket team, right?

01:44:22.000 So the retaliation for that, what we're talking about is specifically, we're talking about a Hezbollah sleeper cell, right?

01:44:30.000 Where there are many thousands of pro-Hezbo, pro-Hezboha activists in Dearborn, Michigan.

01:44:36.000 This is a very, very big issue.

01:44:41.000 People made up imaginary stories about what had happened here.

01:44:44.000 That's the reality.

01:44:45.000 This is a Hezbollah city.

01:44:47.000 But that's what I'm saying, though, is that we now see, instead of people coming out together and saying, oh, my God, it's so horrific that we have Islamic terrorists and sleeper cells in America, you now have actual U.S. Senate candidates. 0.87

01:44:58.000 And we can get it pulled up on the screen.

01:45:00.000 I posted it on my Loomer Unleashed account today.

01:45:02.000 This guy is probably going to end up being the Democrat nominee for U.S. Senate in Michigan because the whole place has just been taken over by Muslims and he's justifying it. 1.00

01:45:12.000 He's spreading this lie, this propaganda that hasn't even been verified that, oh, the IDF killed his family members. 0.98

01:45:19.000 So he wanted to go kill a bunch of Jewish kids. 0.96

01:45:21.000 And it's like, we're supposed to say, okay, that's fair. 1.00

01:45:24.000 That's fair. 0.99

01:45:25.000 Like, let's go kill a bunch of American kids because what the hell do American Jewish kids have anything to do with the IDF taking out a Hezbollah commander? 0.99

01:45:34.000 I mean, and then Tucker Carlson repeats the same exact lie. 1.00

01:45:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:45:39.000 You're right.

01:45:40.000 You know, it's too bad that he tried to make a run at a synagogue and kill a whole bunch of kids.

01:45:45.000 But you must understand where he comes from too.

01:45:47.000 You must understand his side, the tragedy that he and his family in South Lebanon experienced while they were trying to kill Jews in Israel.

01:45:56.000 I want to get the clip up on the screen.

01:45:58.000 I want to show the tweet first.

01:45:59.000 Let's go ahead and show the tweet and then we'll show the video.

01:46:03.000 Let's get that tweet up really quick so you can see it.

01:46:05.000 Democrat Michigan, United States Senate candidate Abdul Al-Syed, Muslim, of course, released a video in which he's sympathetic to the Michigan Islamic terrorists who attacked a Jewish preschool.

01:46:15.000 Said, quote, a week earlier, an airstrike killed his niece and nephew.

01:46:19.000 Imagine if that had never happened.

01:46:21.000 Like, oh, well, you know, if you don't want to get attacked by Muslims, then maybe you shouldn't support Israel. 1.00

01:46:27.000 This is a guy running for office.

01:46:29.000 He gets the support of Chuck Schumer, gets the support of Democrat institutional money behind his race.

01:46:38.000 They branded this guy when he ran for governor of Michigan several years ago in 2018 as the next Obama, right?

01:46:44.000 But the Obama that isn't afraid of openly being Muslim, right? 0.95

01:46:48.000 The Obama that doesn't have to lie about not being a Muslim, right? 0.62

01:46:52.000 Says El Syed continued his rant, proclaiming his support for open borders.

01:46:56.000 Quote, they'll tell us that some people are inherently evil. 1.00

01:46:58.000 Yeah, actually, if you are a Hezbollah terrorist and you ram a car into a preschool and you try to kill a bunch of two-year-olds, you're pretty fucking evil. 0.83

01:47:06.000 They'll tell us that the system of immigration that allowed him to come here should be dismantled, like literally advocating for the terrorist and saying that it's okay that he came here, that he's an immigrant, and that he's a terrorist because, you know, they need to change their behavior and we shouldn't be blaming the terrorists. 0.98

01:47:25.000 I'm not translating this.

01:47:26.000 People are going to listen to it for themselves.

01:47:28.000 So let's go ahead and play this clip.

01:47:30.000 Our state was rocked by news of a heinous attack on Temple Israel, a synagogue in West Bloomfield, Michigan.

01:47:36.000 An armed assailant drove his truck into the building where there are 140 children.

01:47:40.000 Because of the heroism of temple security and law enforcement, the assailant was disarmed and ultimately killed.

01:47:45.000 No teachers, children, or congregants were physically harmed.

01:47:48.000 I'm so relieved.

01:47:50.000 I grew up not 15 minutes away from Temple Israel.

01:47:52.000 Many of my childhood friends and classmates worshiped there.

01:47:56.000 I shudder to think through the emotions of the parents whose children were in the synagogue.

01:48:00.000 This attack will leave scars on the inside that'll stay with the community for decades.

01:48:04.000 These scars, they'll echo centuries of trauma on the part of the Jewish people, calling back the memories of atrocities, including the Holocaust, against Jewish people that are torn afresh every time something like this happens.

01:48:16.000 To my Jewish sisters and brothers, I want to reaffirm my commitment to your rights to worship, to learn, to practice, and to celebrate your faith.

01:48:23.000 Anti-Semitism has no place in our communities, ever.

01:48:26.000 Full stop.

01:48:27.000 Yesterday, we also learned that the attacker was Ayman Ghazali.

01:48:30.000 He was Arab American and Muslim.

01:48:32.000 I condemn what he did.

01:48:34.000 There is never a justification for attacking innocent people or houses of worship.

01:48:38.000 Never.

01:48:39.000 As an epidemiologist, I've spent my career studying the worst things that happen to people to understand how to stop them from happening.

01:48:45.000 And I'll never forget one of the simplest lessons I learned while on my psychiatry rotation in medical school.

01:48:51.000 Hurt people, hurt people.

01:48:53.000 Violence is a cycle.

01:48:54.000 Ayman Ghazali lost family, including two children, in an airstrike in Lebanon last week.

01:48:59.000 They were innocent people.

01:49:01.000 And then in an evil act of displaced rage, he tried to take it out on innocent children who had nothing to do with the loss of the innocent children he lost, except that they share a faith.

01:49:11.000 Temple Israel is not the state of Israel. 0.54

01:49:13.000 Jewish people are not the state of Israel. 0.84

01:49:15.000 And the people of Israel are not the political actors who make direct choices for the state of Israel.

01:49:20.000 We cannot and must not conflate these and act rooted in anti-Semitism.

01:49:25.000 One can have righteous anger at the actions of the state of Israel while expressing solidarity with the Jewish people, including Jewish people in Israel.

01:49:32.000 The conflation of these, whether in the dastardly way Emil Ghazadi did or in an effort to use the specter of anti-Semitism to defend the indefensible, it sits at the root of our failure to stop this violence.

01:49:42.000 Ayman Ghazali hurt people.

01:49:44.000 There is no justification for what he did.

01:49:46.000 It was wrong and he never should have done it.

01:49:48.000 Hurt people hurt people.

01:49:50.000 A week earlier, an airstrike killed his niece and nephew.

01:49:53.000 Imagine if that had never happened.

01:49:54.000 Imagine there was no war in Iran.

01:49:56.000 Imagine if there were no airstrikes in Lebanon.

01:49:59.000 Imagine if his family had never died.

01:50:00.000 Imagine there was never an attack on Temple Israel.

01:50:03.000 That's the world that we want to live in.

01:50:06.000 That's the world we need to build for.

01:50:08.000 Violence always begets violence.

01:50:10.000 Only peace can extinguish that.

01:50:12.000 Because hurt people hurt people.

01:50:14.000 In the coming weeks, a narrative is going to take hold.

01:50:17.000 It'll be shaped in part by the very people who launched that war that led to those airstrikes that killed those children that drove this crazed attacker to violence against innocent people at a synagogue in Michigan.

01:50:27.000 They'll tell us that some people are inherently evil.

01:50:29.000 They'll tell us that the system of immigration that allowed him to come here should be dismantled.

01:50:33.000 And they'll use it all to justify the war that created this in the first place.

01:50:37.000 When the powerful pit us against each other, we all lose.

01:50:41.000 When the powerful start wars, we can't know what the consequences will be.

01:50:45.000 When we fail to ask why, we miss the opportunity to address the cycle of violence in the first place.

01:50:50.000 So what now?

01:50:52.000 We ought to grieve for the internal scars that the children of Temple Israel and their parents and families will carry with them for decades.

01:50:59.000 We ought to grieve for the children who are dying at the hands of airstrikes.

01:51:03.000 We ought to grieve for the communities being told that we are powerless to show up for one another's pain.

01:51:08.000 And we ought to grieve for a world that so quickly forgets to grieve.

01:51:12.000 And then, in our grief, we ought to do the thing that Ayman Ghazadi was too small to do.

01:51:17.000 Rather than allow ourselves to be plunged deeper into the cycle of violence, we ought to commit ourselves to work to ending it.

01:51:23.000 We can and must condemn the attack on Temple Israel.

01:51:26.000 And we can and must condemn the violence 6,000 miles away.

01:51:30.000 And we can and must condemn the broken politics that allows leaders to make war that they pretend has no consequences.

01:51:37.000 Violence never ends violence.

01:51:39.000 It only perpetuates it.

01:51:40.000 May we have the foresight, the courage, and the strength to stand in the breach.

01:51:46.000 I mean, this is a candidate for the United States Senate in Michigan who is likely going to be the Democrat nominee. 0.71

01:51:55.000 I feel a lot dumber for having watched all of that. 0.60

01:51:59.000 I'd only seen clips of it. 1.00

01:52:03.000 I feel dirty and dumber. 0.98

01:52:06.000 I'm not the smartest person, but I'm not the dumbest, but I feel close to it having watched that. 0.99

01:52:11.000 I mean, the rationale for it, the different elisions, the moral elisions, I mean, it's repulsive.

01:52:18.000 And so, look, the point is this, what we know is the problem is not just the immigration system.

01:52:27.000 America is not better off for letting Hezbollah supporters or Hezbollah cells into America. 1.00

01:52:36.000 That's the fundamental problem right there. 0.94

01:52:38.000 And the people who think that somehow the interests of the United States and Israel are split over the issue of Iran and Hezbollah are nuts.

01:52:49.000 That's not the case.

01:52:50.000 We see it exactly in parallel.

01:52:54.000 Well, and also just this moral grandstanding about how we have to condemn the foreign policy of a foreign nation.

01:53:03.000 Israel has a right to defend itself, just like America is a sovereign nation.

01:53:07.000 Israel is a sovereign nation.

01:53:08.000 And he's basically saying that if you want to be sad about a terrorist, an Islamic terrorist, I noticed that he called him an armed assailant.

01:53:16.000 He didn't call him an Islamic terrorist, right?

01:53:18.000 Because of course, you know, he's in Michigan.

01:53:20.000 He's got to get the Muslim vote. 0.80

01:53:21.000 He's not going to get all the Muslims to vote for him if he calls him an Islamic terrorist because he calls him an armed assailant, right? 0.73

01:53:26.000 I mean, there's a big difference between an armed assailant and an Islamic terrorist.

01:53:30.000 You just see the bastardization of language to desensitize people to the reality around them.

01:53:35.000 The fact that we have millions of Iranian proxies, whether they're Hezbollah or Hamas sleeper cells, as you pointed out, millions of these people living in our country, and many of these people currently actually running for office after becoming naturalized citizens in our country, Lee.

01:53:51.000 So the fact that he believes that you can only express grief for the children inside the synagogue who were almost slaughtered by a Muslim terrorist, if you also condemn justified airstrikes on Hamas in Gaza.

01:54:10.000 I mean, it's just this false moral equivalency.

01:54:13.000 It's outrageous.

01:54:14.000 It's evil. 0.88

01:54:15.000 It's disgusting and evil. 0.93

01:54:17.000 It's Tucker, what I like to say, right? 1.00

01:54:18.000 Disgusting and evil. 0.95

01:54:20.000 And in lots of ways, I mean, you know, I'm going to blame us Americans for we should have expected more and we should demand more and we should continue to demand more. 0.97

01:54:32.000 For instance, that's unacceptable.

01:54:33.000 Here's what we want you to do.

01:54:35.000 If you're running for office, we expect you not only to condemn the act, we expect you to warn constituents from those communities that should they continue to do this, that they will be in big trouble with the law and they will help root out the bad guys in those communities.

01:54:54.000 But of course, this is not what we're seeing because we've been to, I mean, Laura, again, this is something we traded, we traded messages about briefly before, but this has been going on since well before the World Trade Center bombing in 2001.

01:55:07.000 And the fact is that we've kept our borders open.

01:55:09.000 And again, that Joe Biden threw our borders wide open during his four years in office.

01:55:15.000 And a lot of these people have come to the country to cause great harm to Americans and American interests here at home.

01:55:23.000 And there should be very serious warnings.

01:55:25.000 There should be very serious threats.

01:55:27.000 And unfortunately, that hasn't happened.

01:55:31.000 The things that have happened instead that we've made excuses, we've made excuses.

01:55:35.000 And this is what this guy's doing, of course, right?

01:55:37.000 He's making, he's rationalizing it.

01:55:40.000 And there's absolutely no room for that.

01:55:42.000 Instead, he should step to the other side and start making threats to bad people in that community saying, if you keep this up, we're going to take you on ourselves because you're causing us trouble.

01:55:54.000 You're causing our whole community trouble here in the United States.

01:55:57.000 And the fact that no one's really done that in the United States from that community is a big problem that we're going to, that we need, and we're not going, not in the future, but right now. 0.65

01:56:10.000 Because again, this comes back to what happens in 2029 if we're looking at historical patterns and there's a Democrat who's president and those borders are open once again.

01:56:23.000 And there's hundreds of thousands of more people who issue from countries and enclaves that produce terrorists.

01:56:34.000 So we need to get to it right away.

01:56:37.000 Yeah.

01:56:37.000 Well, I think what's even more disturbing than that, Lee, is the fact that Joe Kent had not yet resigned from his post as director of National Counterterrorism Center when this attack happened.

01:56:47.000 And I didn't see a single statement from the director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

01:56:52.000 So I guess it's not terrorism if Jewish people are getting attacked.

01:56:56.000 And I've noticed this very disturbing trend.

01:56:59.000 And I love Donald Trump.

01:57:01.000 I think that Donald Trump is a great president for all Americans.

01:57:05.000 He has shown that he has moral clarity as it relates to standing up against anti-Semitism and speaking out against Jew hatred and being a pro-Israel, pro-Jewish America first president.

01:57:19.000 But it needs to be said that his administration does have an anti-Semitism problem.

01:57:25.000 And when we look at the title of your article that you just published the other day, who's the boss?

01:57:36.000 Well, Trump is the boss.

01:57:38.000 So the boss ultimately has the executive power to make the decision, Lee, as you know, to find a solution to a moral problem.

01:57:48.000 And that's why we elect leaders and we get to, you know, we live in this constitutional republic.

01:57:53.000 We have this beautiful right of being able to choose who we want to represent us because we get to have a choice between different candidates and we have primaries and we get to judge people just like there's going to be a primary in 2028.

01:58:05.000 And we're going to be able to discuss the moral and character flaws of some of the candidates that are being hoisted upon us almost like a coronation ahead of 2028.

01:58:16.000 We're going to be able to have conversations about moral clarity and which candidates have moral clarity.

01:58:22.000 And we're going to be able to go to the ballot box and vote.

01:58:25.000 Hopefully we have the Save America Act and we're not going to have illegal aliens voting in our elections. 1.00

01:58:29.000 And we're going to be able to, as Americans, pick the person who has the most moral clarity, right?

01:58:37.000 The American people chose Donald Trump because Donald Trump has moral clarity.

01:58:40.000 And so it is time for President Trump.

01:58:43.000 I don't know if his advisors are showing him all of this. 0.99

01:58:46.000 I don't know if his advisors are telling him the extent of Kent leaking to podcasters who hate Donald Trump, who hate Jews, who love Islamic terrorists.

01:58:55.000 But it's time for President Trump and the Trump administration to put the moral clarity hammer down and reassert, as you said, who's the boss.

01:59:06.000 And sometimes when you have to reassert who's the boss, people get fired.

01:59:09.000 And I personally think it's a moral abomination that Tulsi Gabbard Lee has not issued a statement condemning Joe Kent leaking to Max Blumenthal, leaking to Tucker Carlson, leaking to Candace Owens.

01:59:25.000 And it's an abomination that Tulsi Gabbard, who had the audacity to speak at Charlie Kirk's memorial, has not condemned Joe Kent, her interim chief of staff, saying that he will testify to aid the assassin of Charlie Kirk.

01:59:40.000 So I don't even think President Trump should give her the dignity of a resignation.

01:59:44.000 I think that Tulsi Gabbard should be fired. 1.00

01:59:46.000 And that's my position tonight through this interview.

01:59:48.000 I'll say it live on air.

01:59:49.000 I think that President Trump should fire Tulsi Gabbard.

01:59:52.000 She has not shown that she has moral clarity.

01:59:55.000 She is not fit to be producing intelligence reports for the president of the United States. 0.87

02:00:00.000 I think the case that I argue in my piece is certainly there's a big problem there.

02:00:06.000 And the fact that Joe Kent was leaking the whole time and DNI was apparently alerted to this and the leaking continued is a problem.

02:00:15.000 I mean, right now, one of the reasons that or the big reason that the leakers, the leakers and losers and the podcasters and the schemers are losing right now is because they've lost the argument on the ground, right?

02:00:33.000 As Israel is proving to be a, again, a great wartime ally.

02:00:38.000 Also, Donald Trump is winning.

02:00:41.000 So I think that's the most important thing right now for the president continue.

02:00:46.000 This is a very serious war and it decides not only what's happening now, but it will decide our future peace and prosperity.

02:00:55.000 And this is why I thought it's so important for well over a decade for the Iranian nuclear program to be dismantled, as Trump has said, either through peaceful means or through otherwise.

02:01:06.000 And so I'm grateful that that's his key focus right now.

02:01:11.000 And I imagine after that's accomplished, I hope sooner rather than later, of course, I imagine he'll be turning his attention to other issues, which may in time include personnel who have posed different problems for him.

02:01:28.000 Yeah, well, I think that this is more than just a problem.

02:01:32.000 I think that it puts President Trump and his own life in jeopardy because if the director of national counterterrorism under the director of national intelligence is willing to testify in support of an assassin who killed somebody who worked hard to get President Trump elected, somebody who was a leader of a conservative movement, and they are blinded to evidence and they are willing to spread lies.

02:01:59.000 What are they willing to do to frame somebody, whether it be fabricating evidence, fabricating intel?

02:02:06.000 Are they going to cover up an Iranian plot to assassinate the president again, like we saw, so that they could blame the Jews? 0.92

02:02:13.000 Are they going to allow for a terror plot carried out by Muslims to cause grave bodily injury to the president of the United States or Americans because they don't want to actually say, oh, well, it's Islamic terror. 0.98

02:02:28.000 I mean, these people are literally being, it's worse than a brain rot. 0.99

02:02:32.000 It's like a full-blown psychosis. 0.99

02:02:33.000 I really honestly think it's a mental disorder. 0.98

02:02:36.000 It's Israel derangement syndrome. 0.99

02:02:38.000 Oh, absolutely. 1.00

02:02:40.000 It's a mental and a spiritual disorder. 0.99

02:02:42.000 It's a mental disorder. 0.84

02:02:44.000 I'm not a religious leader, so I'm wary of speaking in those terms. 0.96

02:02:50.000 But yeah, I mean, clearly, historically, if you look at what Jew hate is, it's a spiritual disorder. 0.94

02:02:55.000 It's about distance from God and hatred and hatred of God.

02:02:59.000 So I absolutely believe that.

02:03:01.000 And look, you make a very good point.

02:03:02.000 And frankly, I haven't thought about it in those terms.

02:03:04.000 If you're someone who's willing to complicate a prosecution, a murder case, then certainly their motives and certainly their intentions should be questioned.

02:03:18.000 I hadn't thought about it like that.

02:03:20.000 You put it very well.

02:03:22.000 Yeah, I think it's created a national security threat.

02:03:25.000 It's created a possibility of maybe a hung jury, a mistrial, or maybe even Tyler Robinson walking if they're able to convince people.

02:03:34.000 I mean, Utah, pretty conservative state, not exactly known as being a very pro-Trump state.

02:03:39.000 I mean, a lot of the Republicans there, what was it, like 30% there voted for McMullen or whatever that guy's name was.

02:03:46.000 So the fact of the matter is, Lee, is that a jury in a state like Utah where you have some never Trump sentiment, people are conservative, they probably have heard of Candace Owens.

02:03:58.000 They probably are listening to Tucker Carlson, right?

02:04:00.000 The odds that some of the people on this jury in a red state are going to be listening to Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens or at least being influenced on social media and seeing some of these conspiracy theories.

02:04:11.000 How many members of this jury pool have already been tainted to believe that Israel killed Charlie Kirk?

02:04:17.000 And what are they going to think if the former director of the National Counterterrorism Center under the Trump administration, somebody who Trump himself endorsed, goes and lies under oath?

02:04:29.000 I mean, clearly Joe Kent doesn't have any integrity or morals because he's now under FBI investigation for leaking classified information.

02:04:37.000 If you are going to leak classified information and potentially jeopardize our nation's national security, and you are going to lie about the people who actually murdered your wife, the mother of your children, what's going to stop you from lying under oath?

02:04:52.000 He's already lied under oath, technically speaking, because he leaked classified information and then lied about it, right?

02:04:57.000 He lied about it.

02:04:58.000 So would he lie under oath in a courtroom?

02:05:02.000 Well, he's already clearly stated that he would because we know that Tyler Robinson is the killer.

02:05:07.000 There's DNA evidence all over the gun.

02:05:07.000 He confessed.

02:05:09.000 There's photographic evidence.

02:05:11.000 The family turned him in. 0.89

02:05:13.000 The boyfriend, the trans gay lover, the furry lover admitted that he confessed the murder to him. 0.92

02:05:19.000 And yet Joe Kent still wants to fabricate lies and he's willing to do so under oath in a courtroom, which is a felony.

02:05:25.000 You can go to prison for that.

02:05:26.000 So I guess he's willing to actually go to prison to spread anti-Israel conspiracy theories.

02:05:32.000 How many more people like this are working at ODNI?

02:05:36.000 I think it's possible, by the way, now that you raised the issue, and I'd thought about this before, but I think it's quite possible that he's not going to have an opportunity to testify because if the reports are accurate that he's being investigated for leaks and it appears a series of leaks, then it's possible that there is no defense legal team that's going to want to put someone on the stand who's been charged, who's been charged with leaking classified information.

02:06:04.000 So again, I certainly don't mean to dismiss the problems that have been going on.

02:06:10.000 I'm just saying he may himself run into problems that he himself has caused.

02:06:16.000 Right.

02:06:17.000 And that will and that will keep him, hopefully keep him off the stand.

02:06:21.000 And that's certainly a possibility.

02:06:25.000 Yeah.

02:06:26.000 I mean, look, it could all be a possibility, but the fact that we're even having to sit here tonight and discuss these possibilities with a national security official, with a top secret security clearance who is the director of national counterterrorism and Charlie Kirk was a victim of domestic radical left terrorism, that should shake everybody to their core.

02:06:47.000 It should shake everybody to their core that the people who are in charge of investigating Charlie Kirk's death are not really interested in getting to the bottom of Charlie Kirk's death because they're more concerned with fulfilling and entertaining their sick, twisted conspiracies and blood libel.

02:07:05.000 Why?

02:07:05.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:07:07.000 We saw this during Trump's first term with anyone everywhere from John Brennan to Andrew Weissman to Robert Mueller, all of these different people, Alexander Widman, who despised Donald Trump.

02:07:19.000 And we figured that it had to do with, well, they're Democrats and they know that Trump wanted to drain the deep state and do all these different things.

02:07:27.000 Why do we see so many people now from the right, nominally from the right, though they're not really, why do they hate Donald Trump so much? 0.75

02:07:41.000 I think that a lot of people, as I said in my opening monologue tonight, a lot of these people are just grifters. 0.71

02:07:47.000 Okay.

02:07:47.000 I don't think that a lot of people really truly supported President Trump.

02:07:50.000 We already know that a lot of these people from RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard's camps, they don't like Trump, right?

02:07:56.000 They just, it was kind of like a host.

02:07:58.000 It was really extortion, really.

02:08:01.000 Well, I don't know if the president views it this way, but I think that if I were to sit down with Donald Trump and I were to, you know, kind of like speak the way I do to the president, right?

02:08:09.000 And I were to have this conversation with him.

02:08:11.000 And I feel like I'm pretty good at communicating with the president and getting my message and my arguments across to him.

02:08:18.000 I would explain to him that he was extorted.

02:08:20.000 I would tell the president that he was extorted because really he didn't make the decision to bring these people into his administration.

02:08:28.000 He may like to think that he made the decision to bring Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. into his administration, but he was literally extorted.

02:08:35.000 I mean, look at what RFK Jr. Did, for example, right?

02:08:39.000 RFK Jr. hated Donald Trump, and maybe he still does, but he always wanted to be HHS secretary.

02:08:45.000 He always wanted to be able to reform our healthcare system.

02:08:49.000 He was never going to be able to do that on his own, right?

02:08:52.000 He talked about his own medical condition and how that had debilitated him and kind of stunted him, right?

02:08:58.000 With his voice.

02:08:58.000 I mean, I'm not mocking him.

02:09:00.000 I think he's, you know, fine.

02:09:00.000 I've met him.

02:09:02.000 I get, I've had cordial conversations with him.

02:09:04.000 I'm just, if you listen to the way he talks, he talks about things that prevented him, right?

02:09:08.000 Like the bias against his family and the Democrat Party, the bias against him for speaking out against the medical industry, his own medical condition.

02:09:16.000 So, really, in a sense, like his only way of getting to do what he always aspired to do throughout his life was getting a position within the Trump administration.

02:09:25.000 And he knew that he was never going to become president of the United States, right?

02:09:29.000 So, what did he do?

02:09:31.000 He decided to, you know, coordinate with a super PAC and with his own, with his own, you know, campaign team to strategically place himself on the ballot in key states so that he could take enough of these electoral votes away so that there would be a I posted tweets about this during the campaign,

02:09:57.000 and it's a very complicated concept to explain to people unless you go back and you read all of my reports on this.

02:10:04.000 But he really wanted to create a situation where Congress would select the president of the United States, right?

02:10:13.000 Because if nobody gets 270 electoral votes, ultimately then Congress gets to side, right?

02:10:21.000 They pick the nominee.

02:10:22.000 And that's what he was hoping would happen.

02:10:26.000 And he waited until the 11th hour.

02:10:28.000 RFK Jr. did.

02:10:29.000 And this was documented, right?

02:10:31.000 I wasn't prepared for your question.

02:10:34.000 And so if I had known you were going to ask this, I could have, no, I could have pulled these tweets up to show people what I was to show people what I was talking about.

02:10:43.000 And I can answer the question, but I want to show people because they may seem like they may say to themselves, like, oh, what do you mean extortion?

02:10:51.000 Well, his own super PAC admitted that they were trying to create a situation where Congress would select the nominee, right?

02:11:01.000 They would, they would select the nominee.

02:11:03.000 And then ultimately, you know, you don't have to be a candidate that wins the popular vote.

02:11:09.000 You don't have to win the popular vote.

02:11:11.000 And maybe my producer right now, and I'm talking in my ear, they can pull these tweets up and they can find it.

02:11:16.000 And they can pull up my reporting from the election year.

02:11:20.000 But there was a report in, maybe it was like Spectator.

02:11:23.000 It was one of the, one of the, maybe it was Axios.

02:11:26.000 There was a report documenting how his own PAC staff had admitted that they wanted to create this situation where they took enough electoral votes away to the point where it wouldn't matter, right?

02:11:40.000 It wouldn't matter who won the popular vote because Congress would be able to select the nominee.

02:11:46.000 And so ultimately, what does that mean?

02:11:47.000 That means that you are holding the nation hostage.

02:11:50.000 You are extorting Donald Trump.

02:11:52.000 And he did this up until the 11th hour.

02:11:54.000 He ended up leaking his private conversation with President Trump, if you recall.

02:11:59.000 He then said he didn't know that his call was being recorded at the Republican National Convention and then said, oh, well, I'd be willing to drop out of the race.

02:12:08.000 I'd be willing to drop out of the race if you made me HHS secretary and you committed to it.

02:12:13.000 And one week up until the time when he dropped out of the race, he was calling Donald Trump a con man, right?

02:12:19.000 Talking about how President Trump had no moral clarity whatsoever.

02:12:23.000 And I like showing people the receipts up front.

02:12:27.000 And I'll send these to you later when the interview is over and I'll retweet it for people so that they can see it.

02:12:32.000 I think my producer found it.

02:12:35.000 His own PAC admitted this and they said, Well, why do you want him on the ballot in these specific states?

02:12:40.000 Because that was their whole electoral strategy, right?

02:12:43.000 That his PAC advisors and his campaign advisors created.

02:12:47.000 And the same thing goes with Tulsi Gabbard. 0.99

02:12:49.000 You can pull up her tweets and you can see that she called President Trump Saudi Arabia's bitch. 0.98

02:12:53.000 I mean, we could pull these tweets up. 0.97

02:12:54.000 They still have not been deleted.

02:12:56.000 She said that it's Trump's Iran war.

02:12:59.000 It's president here.

02:13:00.000 You can go back and you can see some of these tweets, right?

02:13:03.000 So RFK Jr.'s candidacy is designed to create a contingent election.

02:13:09.000 Okay.

02:13:10.000 You can see I tweeted this on January 2nd, 2024, and I wrote about it.

02:13:14.000 There's an article on my website.

02:13:15.000 So for those of you who are watching and you want to understand this whole concept of extorting the campaign, you can scroll down.

02:13:23.000 Keep on going.

02:13:26.000 Okay, a contingent election occurs when no candidate reaches the required 270 electoral votes needed to become president of the United States.

02:13:34.000 The United States Congress picks the next president in a contingent election.

02:13:38.000 Efforts to use RFK Jr.'s candidacy to create a contingent election seem vast, as Loomer previously reported.

02:13:45.000 That state of Nevada records show Michigan GOP chair Christina Carabos, president of Unauthorized a 501c4 Nevada-based organization.

02:13:52.000 You can scroll down, right?

02:13:53.000 But I outlined this whole entire strategy that was deployed by RFK Jr. to create a contingent election.

02:14:01.000 And the PAC even said that, you know, their goal was to create this contingent electionly so that President Trump would be forced to play ball with RFK.

02:14:11.000 Well, that's not really a good faith effort, right?

02:14:13.000 You're not actually coming to the table and saying, oh, I really like you.

02:14:16.000 I think you're super qualified.

02:14:18.000 I really think that you're a great supporter.

02:14:20.000 It's extortion.

02:14:21.000 It's like, if you don't, if you, if you don't, and you recall, he was still on the ballot in some states because they didn't actually remove him from the ballot, even though he requested to be removed from the ballot, right?

02:14:31.000 So they still took votes away, even though he had requested to be removed from the ballot.

02:14:36.000 It was like, if you do not make me a part of your administration, I'm going to take 20% of the vote in each of these key states.

02:14:46.000 So that's not exactly somebody who supports you.

02:14:49.000 And ultimately, we saw a lot of RFK Jr. supporters trashing President Trump up until the very end, calling him a con man, blaming him for Operation Warp Speed, blaming him for the vaccine, blaming him from all like these COVID deaths and the COVID vaccine injuries.

02:15:04.000 And the same thing happened with Tulsi Gabbard, where she felt disaffected.

02:15:08.000 It's not like she actually really liked Donald Trump.

02:15:10.000 She was attacked by Hillary Clinton, who accused her of being a Russian agent. 0.52

02:15:14.000 Okay.

02:15:15.000 She sues Hillary Clinton. 0.99

02:15:16.000 She gets disavowed by the Republic or the Democrat Party because she called out Kamala Harris. 0.96

02:15:22.000 She called out Hillary Clinton. 1.00

02:15:23.000 She called out Joe Biden, right?

02:15:25.000 She challenged the Democrat establishment, which was like the worst offense you could ever commit as a Democrat running for president. 0.64

02:15:32.000 And so she was excommunicated.

02:15:34.000 So again, going back to what I said, Tulsi Gabbard is an opportunist. 0.95

02:15:38.000 Sure, she can say all these things and, you know, aloha. 0.70

02:15:41.000 She has her very calm voice.

02:15:43.000 Aloha.

02:15:45.000 I served in the military and I know what it's like to lose my fellow brothers and sisters in war, right?

02:15:52.000 Isn't calling for people's guns to be taken away, right?

02:15:56.000 She's like a moderate Democrat in a sense, right?

02:15:58.000 But she's actually really not a moderate Democrat because there's tons of photos of her with all of these, you know, radical Greenpeace activists and Antifa activists and climate change activists.

02:16:10.000 And you realize that she's just really good at talking the talk to get what she wants.

02:16:14.000 We call that being a political chameleon.

02:16:17.000 We call that, you know, taking advantage of your circumstances to get ahead in life.

02:16:24.000 We call that being an opportunist, just plain and simple.

02:16:26.000 It's called pure political opportunismly.

02:16:29.000 I'm sure you're familiar with it.

02:16:31.000 You've encountered a lot of opportunists working in this world of political media, just like I have.

02:16:36.000 And so I think that there's always been hatred there, right?

02:16:39.000 You ask me, why did these, when did these people start to hate Donald Trump?

02:16:43.000 I think that they always hated Donald Trump.

02:16:46.000 And we just made this illusion in our minds.

02:16:49.000 I didn't.

02:16:50.000 I know you didn't because we're smart enough. 1.00

02:16:52.000 We didn't fall for this kumbaya bullshit. 0.99

02:16:55.000 But they told us we need coalitions. 0.99

02:16:57.000 We're going to build a coalition.

02:16:59.000 We're going to build the bridge the gap between the Democrats and Maha and MAGA.

02:17:04.000 And, you know, you had people putting like their little heart designs and MAGA plus MAHA inside a little big heart, just making it all so hokey and carnival-like.

02:17:14.000 And at the end of the day, it was always sitting in the back of my mind.

02:17:17.000 How are we going to reconcile these differences in foreign policy and issues like abortion, right?

02:17:23.000 And issues like immigration, things that really matter, okay?

02:17:26.000 Things that really make or break a political coalition.

02:17:29.000 And ultimately, as we've seen, Lee, it's always been there.

02:17:33.000 The friction's always been there.

02:17:35.000 And people want to define a post-Trump GOP, right?

02:17:40.000 I know this is quite long-winded and I'm almost done, but everybody kind of went along to go along to get along until they needed to.

02:17:50.000 But we're now in 2026, right?

02:17:54.000 And we're at that point now where if you want to be a candidate in 2028, you have to start deciding in 2026 whether you're going to run because by 2027, you have to file.

02:18:05.000 And there's going to be multiple people in the cabinet.

02:18:07.000 I've said this.

02:18:08.000 I said this last year.

02:18:09.000 We're going to see they don't all really like each other.

02:18:11.000 They're all pretending to be.

02:18:12.000 No, no, I think you have these cabinet meetings where they're with Elon Musk and they're wearing their Doge hats and it's one big happy party.

02:18:20.000 And oh, you're so great.

02:18:21.000 Oh, no, you're so great.

02:18:23.000 Oh, no, you're even better.

02:18:24.000 Let's get lunch.

02:18:26.000 You know what let's get lunch means in places like Washington, D.C. 1.00

02:18:29.000 It means go fuck yourself. 1.00

02:18:31.000 That's what let's get lunch means. 1.00

02:18:32.000 It means go fuck yourself. 1.00

02:18:34.000 Let's get lunch sometime. 1.00

02:18:36.000 Okay. 1.00

02:18:36.000 That's that's like the political world code, code, code language for go fuck yourself. 1.00

02:18:42.000 It's like what you say to somebody when you don't really want to, you know, talk to them. 0.99

02:18:45.000 And you're just like, oh, yeah, you know, you see them at the galas, you see them at the parties.

02:18:49.000 Oh, yeah, it's so great.

02:18:50.000 House of family, house to kids.

02:18:51.000 Oh, let's get lunch sometime.

02:18:53.000 You don't really actually want to talk to these people.

02:18:55.000 You're keeping tabs on these people.

02:18:57.000 You're monitoring these people.

02:18:58.000 You're trying to see what their political aspirations are.

02:19:01.000 So, you know, you can, you can see how you're going to position yourself in the rat race.

02:19:05.000 Tulsi Gabbard is going to run for president.

02:19:08.000 I reported that RFK Jr. is going to run for president.

02:19:10.000 He profusely denies it.

02:19:12.000 He can deny it all he wants.

02:19:13.000 Whatever.

02:19:14.000 We'll see in the end who's proven right.

02:19:14.000 We'll see.

02:19:16.000 JD Vance is obviously running for president.

02:19:18.000 Marco Rubio is probably going to run for president.

02:19:22.000 All the knives are going to come out.

02:19:24.000 We're going to see how good this coalition building really was in 2027 when ultimately people are going to have to start resigning.

02:19:30.000 So to answer your question, is Tulsi Gabbard next?

02:19:34.000 If the president gives her the dignity of allowing her to resign and doesn't fire her for having absolutely no moral clarity, she will eventually resign Because she's going to run for president.

02:19:44.000 I already pointed out the other day that she has five PACs, four of which she has direct involvement with.

02:19:50.000 And so she's going to have to resign eventually if she wants to run for president. 1.00

02:19:55.000 Marco Rubio will have to resign if he runs for president, right?

02:19:58.000 JD Vance will run for president.

02:20:00.000 RFK will have to resign if he runs for president.

02:20:03.000 So it's not a matter of will Tulsi Gabbard resign or will she be the next to fall?

02:20:08.000 It's a matter of when Tulsi Gabbard will fall and when Tulsi Gabbard will resign or she'll be fired and ultimately begin her anti-Trump crusade to redefine herself so that they can hijack a post-Trump GOP. 1.00

02:20:22.000 And whether that means completely eliminating all traces of MAGA and completely destroying the America First MAGA movement and repudiating Donald Trump and supporting the impeachment of Donald Trump and standing by and allowing his family to be subjected to years of harassment and weaponized government and investigations and maybe even jail time. 0.99

02:20:44.000 These people don't give a shit. 0.98

02:20:45.000 All they care about is themselves. 1.00

02:20:47.000 If Tulsi Gabbard gave a shit about Donald Trump, she would have said, I support the president in all of his decisions. 0.99

02:20:53.000 I stand by him as his director of national intelligence, not, well, you know, I had to check my opinions at the door. 1.00

02:21:00.000 I had to check my radical left views at the door when I decided to swallow my pride and join the Trump administration after talking shit about Donald Trump. 0.99

02:21:10.000 Right. 0.99

02:21:12.000 I would express support for the president instead of saying, well, yeah, you know, he's the commander in chief.

02:21:17.000 And so he has the executive authority to make decisions. 0.99

02:21:20.000 Well, no shit. 1.00

02:21:21.000 Yeah, he's the president. 1.00

02:21:22.000 We already know Tulsi, right?

02:21:24.000 It's like this very roundabout way of answering questions.

02:21:27.000 So, I mean, that's really ultimately what it comes down to.

02:21:30.000 It's political opportunism.

02:21:31.000 And it's not when they started hating Trump.

02:21:34.000 These people have always hated Trump, just like all the Republican senators hate Trump too.

02:21:37.000 And you see it now in the way that it's so hard for them to even agree to pass the Save America Act.

02:21:43.000 I mean, what is so hard about saying we're not going to allow illegal aliens to vote in our elections and we're not going to sexually mutilate children. 0.99

02:21:53.000 Right.

02:21:55.000 Just to come back very quickly to the coalition.

02:21:58.000 I mean, I don't know many voters.

02:22:00.000 I doubt you do either.

02:22:01.000 Many voters have said, you know, I would not have voted for Donald Trump had Elon Musk or Tulsi Gabbard not been on board too.

02:22:13.000 I think that Donald Trump won all of the votes that Donald Trump got and for a whole bunch of different reasons.

02:22:21.000 Yeah.

02:22:22.000 So the coalition thing, the coalition thing, I think has been, I think that the people who talk about the coalition generally are talking about, that's my point.

02:22:30.000 The people who have attached themselves to Trump to be able to project power they don't have on their own.

02:22:35.000 That's the people who tend to talk about the coalition, right?

02:22:38.000 I think that people voted for Donald Trump.

02:22:40.000 And I think that even without these people, he still would have won.

02:22:43.000 But they like to say, they like to say, like, people voted for Donald Trump because they like Donald Trump.

02:22:48.000 I don't know anybody who voted for Donald Trump because they're like, oh, well, Tulsi Gabbard's going to be in the administration or RFK is going to be in the administration.

02:22:55.000 In fact, I know a lot of RFK supporters that still refuse to support Donald Trump, even after the fact.

02:23:00.000 And that's why I said he waited until the last minute and he wasn't even taken off the ballot in all of the states.

02:23:06.000 He still appeared on the ballot because it was extortion.

02:23:08.000 It was extortion, right?

02:23:10.000 It wasn't like, wow, I really like you.

02:23:12.000 I'm going to drop out of the race because, you know, it's the right thing to do. 0.54

02:23:16.000 And I've come to see you're an amazing leader.

02:23:18.000 It was, okay, well, we have all these ballots, right, ready to go.

02:23:23.000 And we're going to, we're going to force a contingent election.

02:23:26.000 His own PAC is on the record admitting that they tried to create a contingent election, a concept that is kind of unfamiliar to the average American.

02:23:34.000 You have to read about it on my website.

02:23:36.000 I know you know what it is, but a lot of Americans don't know what a contingent election is, Lee.

02:23:41.000 But it's funny, you know.

02:23:44.000 No, I was going to say it's funny when you see about how the, you know, the so-called AmAGA influencers who talk about themselves, the way they flatter themselves.

02:23:53.000 I mean, yeah, I'm sorry.

02:23:54.000 I don't really know anyone who is tilting toward Kamala Harris.

02:23:57.000 But then, wow, when that Joe Rogan endorsement came in, they flipped for Trump.

02:24:01.000 That's when they really went for Donald J. Trump.

02:24:04.000 It's like, yeah, I'm sorry.

02:24:05.000 Maybe there are people like that.

02:24:07.000 I just don't know them.

02:24:08.000 But you see how people, again, have been have been building up their own influencers who actually are not that influential as we see in polls, as we see, as we see when Donald Trump wins in things they want Donald Trump to lose at.

02:24:25.000 And so I think that we're having more clarity on that now, that the people who've been opposing Trump are losing and in many cases have already lost.

02:24:35.000 And I think that the Joe Kent resignation really underscores that and the things that will follow from that.

02:24:41.000 Now people are starting to see those in the Trump administration who are keen to advance the president's agenda on behalf of the United States.

02:24:51.000 So I think we've seen some really ugly things.

02:24:54.000 And I think that one of the ugliest things, Laura, is you've been sort of underscores.

02:24:57.000 Like, look, among all the bad things that Joe Kent has done, also, he resigned after a number of different terrorist attacks on the United States, including what could have been a major attack on that Michigan synagogue.

02:25:11.000 So in spite of all the bad stuff, I think we're starting to get more and more clarity now.

02:25:15.000 And what Americans, what Donald Trump supporters voted for, that's what we're getting.

02:25:22.000 And that's what the Iran campaign is about.

02:25:26.000 And God willing, that campaign will end victoriously very soon.

02:25:31.000 But really, I think that we're getting a lot more clarity.

02:25:36.000 And so actually, I think we're heading into a very good time.

02:25:38.000 I'm also hopeful that the Iran campaign will give the president and the GOP a boost heading into 2026 midterms.

02:25:48.000 I mean, certainly a lot of those candidates could use it.

02:25:52.000 And I think a tremendous victory at war that will ensure American peace and prosperity for many years to come.

02:26:00.000 I think that's that would be a good idea.

02:26:02.000 Although I do think that even in the even in the de-escalation of the Iran conflict, and I don't even like calling it a war because it's not even really a prolonged war yet.

02:26:11.000 You know, it's really just still in the beginning phases.

02:26:15.000 And it's strategic, right?

02:26:16.000 It could end any day, really.

02:26:20.000 But you see this, you still see the games that are being played.

02:26:23.000 And maybe I'm reading into this too much.

02:26:25.000 And maybe I'm just so aggrieved by Tucker Katarlson, as I call him, that, you know, I see everything now through the lens of a foreign influence operationally.

02:26:35.000 But I find it to be kind of interesting, right?

02:26:39.000 That even through Tucker's communications with the Iranians, we know that he just recently said, and maybe he's lying, I don't know, that the CIA was apparently reading his messages and that he was in communication with the Iranians.

02:26:53.000 We know that he's in communication with the Iranians because he interviewed the president of Iran.

02:26:57.000 So we know that that's not far-fetched.

02:27:00.000 He obviously is in touch with the Iranian regime.

02:27:03.000 But I find it to be really funny how throughout all these negotiations, everything has been successful with President Trump, Steve Witkoff, and Jared Kushner negotiating, right, for the most part.

02:27:15.000 But I couldn't help but notice tonight the report that JD Vance had to go to Pakistan and that the Pakistanis, right, we pretend like Pakistan is an ally. 0.96

02:27:26.000 Their biggest export is terrorism.

02:27:26.000 I don't know why.

02:27:28.000 I just got back from India a couple of days ago where I spoke at a conference about this.

02:27:33.000 I mean, you have the Pakistani government literally threatening to nuke India if the United States ever attacks, if ever attacks Pakistan, right?

02:27:44.000 Their senior defense advisor literally said on the record a few days ago that they would nuke India if the U.S. ever attacked Pakistan.

02:27:52.000 I bring this up because the Iranians apparently said that they were only willing to negotiate with JD Vance.

02:27:59.000 They weren't willing to negotiate with Jared Kushner or Steve Witkoff, right?

02:28:04.000 So it's kind of funny in a sense because the jokes these days just write themselves, right?

02:28:09.000 People joke about how Tucker Carlson's like the new IHO.

02:28:13.000 Yeah, I saw some reports on that that were questioning the accuracy of those reports.

02:28:19.000 So I don't really know what's going on right yet.

02:28:23.000 Well, but this is my point, though, about the foreign influence operation, about like the accounts, the accounts that are promoting this, right?

02:28:30.000 I've noticed that they're foreign accounts, right?

02:28:33.000 So this is what I'm saying about this foreign influence operation is that even now the negotiation, it's like subliminal messaging.

02:28:43.000 Like, oh, well, even let's say it's true.

02:28:45.000 Let's say it's not true.

02:28:46.000 The fact that RT is pushing this out, the fact that Turkish media is pushing this out, the fact that Al Jazeera is amplifying it, like the accounts that are that are proliferating this, right?

02:28:57.000 And I retweeted it and commented on it as kind of like, you know, a humorous joke to point out the fact that, oh, well, of course, all these like foreign outlets are highlighting the fact that the Iranians allegedly don't want to negotiate with the two Jews in Trump's administration.

02:29:13.000 They want to negotiate with Tucker Carlson's buddy, JD Vance, right?

02:29:17.000 Because it's all subliminal.

02:29:19.000 Whether people realize this or not, there's a message in everything that these foreign actors do. 0.58

02:29:24.000 And you may not feel like you're being victimized by it in the moment.

02:29:27.000 You may not think that you're being impacted by it.

02:29:30.000 But how many times have people scrolled through their X account and they see foreign outlets reposting, right?

02:29:36.000 The clips of these social media influencers badmouthing Donald Trump.

02:29:40.000 And then these clips get played on Iranian state media or Russian state media.

02:29:45.000 You may not realize it, but every single day you're victimized by the foreign interference and foreign propaganda machine that is trying to undermine the Trump administration.

02:29:53.000 I mean, every time I log on to X, I get blasted with RT tweeting clips of Candace Owens and Nick Flentis and Tucker Carlson and then Al Jazeera re-amplifying it and Muslim Brotherhood accounts.

02:30:04.000 So, you know, there's this double-edged story. 0.70

02:30:09.000 The amount of garbage, the amount of garbage in what the American public has been subjected to during the, you know, during the first Trump administration, we know that Twitter was throttling Trump supporters and stuff like that. 0.94

02:30:23.000 But now what we see, I mean, I mean, you know, Trump, Trump voters are being overwhelmed by the amount of, as you say, by the amount of foreign garbage that's really drowning out, that's really drowning out important information that all American voters need. 0.89

02:30:38.000 And you know, Laura, one of the things that concerns me is I think some of that, a lot of those operations are foreign, but I'm concerned.

02:30:46.000 I'm not talking about Twitter.

02:30:47.000 I'm talking about other social media platforms.

02:30:49.000 But it strikes me that other social media platforms may be driving up also that engagement to hurt Donald Trump, right?

02:30:56.000 A lot of people thought that all these places were on board, that after Trump's second, you know, that during Trump's second term, everyone was going to play fair, Facebook and YouTube.

02:31:05.000 Like, yeah, we admit he's the president.

02:31:07.000 We'll get with it.

02:31:09.000 I suspect that may not be entirely the case.

02:31:12.000 I suspect that some of these platforms may be juicing up a lot of anti-Trump people to hurt Donald Trump and to, you know, to confuse his supporters.

02:31:25.000 So again, it's not just the Russians and the Chinese and the Iranians and the Qataris and other actors.

02:31:30.000 I think that some of it is probably going to wind up being American companies too.

02:31:36.000 Yeah, but who is ultimately curating the content at these American companies, right?

02:31:40.000 Over 70% of the workforce in Silicon Valley, H-1B visa workers, right?

02:31:45.000 Yeah, foreigners. 1.00

02:31:46.000 So at the end of the day, it's a foreign social media in America.

02:31:50.000 It doesn't even matter if you are an American social media-based company.

02:31:54.000 It's a foreign influence operation. 0.75

02:31:56.000 Look at all the Saudis and the, I mean, look, the Indians, look at all the Chinese, look at all the Muslims.

02:32:03.000 I mean, during Trump's first term, there was a story.

02:32:06.000 There was a story about how it was a Turkish national that deleted Donald Trump's account.

02:32:11.000 A Turkish national, probably a Muslim Brotherhood operative.

02:32:14.000 Remember, remember when a Turkish national deleted Donald Trump's Twitter account?

02:32:18.000 It barely got any news coverage, but you could pull it up.

02:32:20.000 You could see this really happened in 2017, I believe.

02:32:24.000 And then you had the story about the Saudi Arabians, the Muslims that were working at Twitter 1.0, and then they were using their access to read political dissonance or critics of the Saudi government's Twitter deals.

02:32:36.000 Yeah, sure.

02:32:37.000 I mean, so a lot of this stuff is foreign.

02:32:41.000 And how many of these people that are moderating the content really have an interest in eliminating foreign influence operations if they themselves are foreigners from communist and communist countries and Sharia shitholes? 0.98

02:32:54.000 I mean, just look at the people that they employ.

02:32:56.000 Look at it.

02:32:57.000 It's over 70, over 70, 75% H-1B visa employment in Silicon Valley.

02:33:03.000 I mean, this also comes back to something we were talking about before.

02:33:05.000 So how many of the, you know, how many of the Jew-hating accounts, how much of their numbers come from an American audience and how much it comes from a foreign audience?

02:33:16.000 So that's one of the things that makes me confident about the mental and spiritual stability of our country.

02:33:23.000 But look, I mean, I think it's very important that Americans are entitled, like other countries, we're entitled to have a debate about our own politics, right?

02:33:32.000 We acknowledge that we drive the world's economy.

02:33:39.000 We're the world's greatest military.

02:33:41.000 So we can understand why people want to have some sort of opinion or why they would want to influence the way we think.

02:33:48.000 But I think Americans are also entitled to have their own discussions about what should happen in our country.

02:33:52.000 And of course, that's what our election is about.

02:33:54.000 And that's why we don't want foreign election interference or any election interference.

02:34:00.000 Yeah, but I think also on social media, we're entitled to have debates without being influenced by teenagers, by disaffected teenagers who live in Bangladesh or Kazakhstan.

02:34:17.000 My favorite are the Pakistani bots that say, Donald Trump is done. 0.78

02:34:24.000 MAGA is dead.

02:34:25.000 And then you check no and it says in Pakistan or something.

02:34:28.000 So it's out of control.

02:34:31.000 But I really would recommend that everybody read your most recent, recent article and tablet because, well, I mean, it's what I've been saying.

02:34:41.000 It's what you've been saying.

02:34:42.000 It's what a lot of people have been saying.

02:34:43.000 And it's kind of now a question, a question a lot of people are asking.

02:34:47.000 I've had conversations with people who work in the White House about it too.

02:34:50.000 Is Tulsi Godbert going to be the next one to fall?

02:34:52.000 But I don't know if she's really going to fall, right?

02:34:55.000 I mean, the problem is, is that the administration has been too gracious in the way that they've handled PPO this time around.

02:35:03.000 In the first administration, it was a lot more brutal.

02:35:05.000 There was a lot more drama.

02:35:07.000 It was, you're fired.

02:35:08.000 I'm going to fire you in the most humiliating way.

02:35:10.000 You know, you're going to have a job for eight days.

02:35:13.000 You're fired.

02:35:14.000 I'm firing you on social media.

02:35:15.000 I'm going to tweet out you're fired.

02:35:17.000 You know, it was like very dramatic.

02:35:19.000 And that was part of the contention and a lot of the drama in the admin is that a lot of people felt personally aggrieved, right?

02:35:28.000 They almost had their own, uh, their own burn book, right?

02:35:32.000 Their own burn book for the Trump administration and Trump administration officials, in a sense.

02:35:36.000 And you had leakers and you had tell-all books and you had all these people coming and going and lying about the president.

02:35:42.000 And it was just like a circus.

02:35:44.000 And now, thanks to Susie Wiles, largely, I mean, it's a double-edged sword.

02:35:48.000 I think she's done a very good job at preventing a lot of the chaos and keeping people like grounded so that you don't have people writing tell-all books and running to the media, becoming CNN contributors.

02:36:01.000 But, you know, it comes, it's a double-edged sword.

02:36:03.000 While Susie has done a great job in really kind of keeping the peace and preventing a lot of the chaos, of course, Kent is an outlier.

02:36:13.000 They don't really fire people that much anymore in the admin.

02:36:17.000 And that would be my only criticism: is that while Susie's policy of like creating a drama-free environment has been somewhat successful in terms of PPO, when you compare the first term to the second term, you also now have this kind of recycle bin of incompetent people.

02:36:35.000 So when they don't want to fire somebody, they just reassign them to a position where they're not going to be able to do as much damage, right?

02:36:42.000 So, you know, you had Michael Waltz.

02:36:45.000 You had Michael Waltz, for example, who screwed up, right, with Signal Gate to NSC, and then they made him the ambassador to the United Nations, kind of a kind of being, it's like being exiled to Siberia in a sense, right?

02:36:56.000 It's like akin to being exiled to Siberia, being, you know, the ambassador to the United States.

02:37:00.000 The United Nations is bad.

02:37:01.000 It's bad, but it's not Siberia.

02:37:04.000 Right.

02:37:04.000 But, but what I'm saying is that you're not going to be able to, or one would hope that you're not going to be able to create as much drama for the president as the ambassador to the UN as you would as the national security advisor, inviting leftist reporters to your signal chats, right?

02:37:20.000 So my point is, is that there's a lot of instances like this where we've seen people who were supposedly fired, but they're not really fired.

02:37:27.000 They've just been kind of given demotions or moved around.

02:37:29.000 Like Kirsty Noam, for example, right?

02:37:32.000 Gives her testimony in front of Congress.

02:37:35.000 Basically, the president insinuates that she lied under oath because, you know, she made a claim that the president was aware of something.

02:37:41.000 And then we saw the president say, I wasn't aware of it.

02:37:43.000 Technically speaking, that's lying under oath.

02:37:46.000 And then she gets another position. 1.00

02:37:48.000 And, you know, she, she's no longer DHS secretary of Senator Markway Mullen, now the new DHS secretary.

02:37:53.000 But it's like a, it's like a shuffle, musical chairs, musical chairs of positions in the administration.

02:37:58.000 And so at some point in time, people actually do need to be shown the door.

02:38:03.000 And that's what I'm talking about about asserting who's the boss and dropping this hammer of moral clarity because we can't keep giving positions and excuses to people who lack moral clarity.

02:38:15.000 We just can't.

02:38:16.000 I mean, this is a fireable offense.

02:38:18.000 You shouldn't be allowed to have, you know, a lesser position in the administration and have the dignity of being a government official if you are going to engage in this type of dangerous blood libel that is going to get people killed.

02:38:32.000 And it has gotten people killed.

02:38:36.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:38:37.000 And, you know, I mean, you would like to think that everyone in the administration would be clear-sighted on this and that they, and I mean, look, we have to come back to the essential fact.

02:38:50.000 I mean, Donald Trump is right.

02:38:51.000 I mean, he's the, he's the most pro-Israel candidate in American history, even more pro-Israel than Harry Truman, who first recognized Israel.

02:39:00.000 He's philosophic.

02:39:02.000 I mean, I always encourage people who, and I said this during Trump's first term when there were concerns, oh, I don't know, how does Donald Trump really feel about Jews?

02:39:09.000 I'm like, have you met, have you actually read Art of the Deal?

02:39:12.000 I think anyone who's read Art of the Deal, recognizing that, as it turns out, every almost everyone Donald Trump knows is Jewish.

02:39:19.000 The people he calls on the phone, the parks commissioner and New York City, Andrew Stern, everyone he's talking to is Jewish all the time.

02:39:26.000 So Donald Trump was raised in New York.

02:39:28.000 He's raised in a Jewish milieu.

02:39:30.000 loves he he loves jews um and and and that's why his daughter's jewish his grandkids are jewish Right.

02:39:39.000 I know, and people, and people say that all the time.

02:39:41.000 And of course, it's true.

02:39:42.000 And of course, he loves his family.

02:39:44.000 But I mean, if you and also his sense of humor, you know, the favorite, the thing that people, I think, like most about seeing Donald Trump speak, it's not when he's speaking off of a teleprompter because a lot of people can do that, but when he's speaking, when he's engaging with the North, there was something that he did during his first term and he was speaking.

02:40:04.000 I can't remember if he was speaking out of the, you know, out of the press room or the press briefing room or what, but he was kind of hanging on his pedestal.

02:40:11.000 I'm like, this just feels like a rat pack evening.

02:40:14.000 This is fantastic.

02:40:16.000 And so that's, you know, that's what people, that's what I think people really love about the president.

02:40:21.000 And that's why it's so jarring to hear different things seeping out of the administration or different things from people who've attached themselves to the president.

02:40:33.000 Again, they claim to represent the president or speak for him or express the feelings of his supporters.

02:40:42.000 That's why it's so jarring and so upsetting.

02:40:44.000 And, you know, the president can't really be on guard all the time saying, this person's not with me.

02:40:50.000 This person's a Jew hater and I want nothing to do with them.

02:40:53.000 So, I mean, I keep in mind the big picture that this is a president.

02:40:58.000 This is a president.

02:41:00.000 When we say America first, we mean he understands the history of this country, also the tradition of our country, where we come from, who we are as a people.

02:41:12.000 And again, the Jews are at the root of the United States and have been and have been since this country was first settled.

02:41:24.000 Absolutely.

02:41:26.000 And we're not going to go anywhere either.

02:41:30.000 I don't think that a lot of, I mean, like, there's obviously a lot, there's a lot of self-hating liberal Jews, unfortunately, who have decided to side with the Islamists and the people that are perpetuating these blood libels. 0.96

02:41:45.000 But I think that over time, Jewish people have, and it's not just about Jews, right?

02:41:50.000 What starts with the Jews never ends with the Jews. 0.99

02:41:52.000 People need to be aware that you see that the vitriol is now being spewed towards evangelical Christians, too.

02:41:57.000 Nobody's safe, right?

02:41:58.000 If you, you don't have to be Jewish.

02:42:00.000 If you believe that Israel has a right to defend itself, if you believe that Hamas is a terrorist organization, if you believe that Israel has a right to exist, if you believe that Islamic immigration is a net negative for America and the West, you are a target. 0.85

02:42:15.000 These people, these people really view you as an enemy to their agenda if you don't embrace a total and unapologetic anti-Jewish.

02:42:25.000 It's not just anti-Israel.

02:42:26.000 It's anti-Jewish.

02:42:27.000 It's anti-evangelical, anti-Israel, and pro-Muslim agenda. 0.90

02:42:34.000 Pro-Muslim agenda.

02:42:36.000 This is a very good point that a lot of people, that a lot of people forget that a lot of, you know, a lot of pro-Israel, a lot of pro-Israel people philosophes like, no, we're here to protect the Jews.

02:42:46.000 We're here to support our Jewish.

02:42:47.000 Like, stick up for yourself.

02:42:49.000 Right.

02:42:50.000 Stick up for yourself.

02:42:50.000 It's not about the Jews.

02:42:51.000 It's not about the Jews. 0.80

02:42:52.000 Right.

02:42:53.000 Yeah.

02:42:53.000 Right.

02:42:54.000 Hey, my friend, don't worry about the Jews. 0.98

02:42:54.000 Don't worry. 0.98

02:42:56.000 They've been around for a long time.

02:42:58.000 Right.

02:42:58.000 The Jews are okay, right?

02:43:00.000 They're going to go.

02:43:01.000 They've been through a lot of hard things.

02:43:03.000 It's about themselves, really.

02:43:05.000 And that's how you stick up for yourselves.

02:43:07.000 Stick up for yourself.

02:43:08.000 Stick up for your community.

02:43:09.000 Stick up for your country.

02:43:10.000 That's what you have to do.

02:43:12.000 Whether we're talking about evangelicals or whether we're talking about Catholics, I'm Catholic.

02:43:16.000 Whether we're talking about, you know, whoever, stick up for yourself.

02:43:19.000 Stick up for your country.

02:43:20.000 Don't just say, oh, I'm here to embrace and protect my Jewish, my Jewish brother.

02:43:25.000 Yeah, that's nice.

02:43:26.000 That's great.

02:43:27.000 But stick up for yourself.

02:43:28.000 Stick up for your country.

02:43:31.000 Absolutely.

02:43:32.000 Uh, Lee, you've been very generous with your time.

02:43:34.000 We've been live for a long time, been a really informative.

02:43:37.000 Really fun, Laura.

02:43:38.000 Thank you so much.

02:43:39.000 It's been fun.

02:43:40.000 You'll have to come on again.

02:43:41.000 Is there anything else that you wanted to highlight?

02:43:43.000 I think we went through your article.

02:43:44.000 People can read your article.

02:43:46.000 Let's get it flashed up on the screen again so people can see it.

02:43:48.000 I recommend people read it in full.

02:43:50.000 Thanks.

02:43:50.000 Who's the boss?

02:43:51.000 Joe Kent is out the door at ODNI after blasting President Trump's Iran policy.

02:43:56.000 Is his boss Tulsi Gabber next?

02:43:57.000 Check it out, tabletmag.com.

02:44:00.000 Anything else that you wanted to highlight or talk about?

02:44:03.000 Anything that you're working on?

02:44:06.000 No, I'm working on a piece we mentioned it briefly about what I, what I, you know, we talked about the possibility of a mass casualty attack.

02:44:14.000 I mean, look, one of the things that I always like to talk about is because one of the big things that's going on, and it happened during Trump's first term too, it's it's a major demoralization campaign.

02:44:27.000 And part of it has to do with Trump, but part of it just has to do with America.

02:44:30.000 Part of it has to do with the Jews. 0.55

02:44:31.000 Part of it has to do with the evangelicals.

02:44:33.000 But the big target is America, making people feel making people question the virtues of our country, the righteousness of our cause.

02:44:46.000 And of course, we have problems.

02:44:48.000 We're normal people, but also we're Americans.

02:44:50.000 And so I like to encourage people to stay grounded and also to remember who we are, what our history is, and what our future is going to look like.

02:45:02.000 I mean, this is the great achievement of Donald Trump, right?

02:45:04.000 To make us realize, to remind us of who we are, of who we are as a people and who we are as a country.

02:45:11.000 And so, yeah, I always like talking about that because that's one of the things I try to do.

02:45:17.000 That's one of the things I try to do in my writing, whether it's the different books I've written, the different articles that I write for a tablet, the times I get to speak publicly as I'm getting to speak with you today.

02:45:30.000 Just like, yeah, we're a great country.

02:45:32.000 We're a really great people.

02:45:34.000 And that's the most important thing.

02:45:35.000 In addition to all the president's policies, I really think that's the biggest thing.

02:45:41.000 So you talk about the moral example, the righteousness, the righteousness of our cause.

02:45:48.000 So I like talking about that.

02:45:50.000 And I know you do too, because you stand up for it.

02:45:54.000 You represent it every day in social media and with your show.

02:45:58.000 And I really appreciate that about you.

02:46:02.000 That and your sense of humor and your outspoken nature.

02:46:06.000 So thank you so much for bringing me on this evening.

02:46:09.000 I really appreciate it.

02:46:10.000 I appreciate it.

02:46:11.000 I mean, look, you have to be outspoken.

02:46:11.000 Yeah.

02:46:12.000 Some people say, wow, aren't you worried?

02:46:14.000 You're going to really get blacklisted everywhere.

02:46:17.000 Look, I've already been blacklisted.

02:46:18.000 I've already, you know, I've already been deplatformed, de-banked.

02:46:22.000 I had to basically rough it out and claw my way back to the back to the top and get knocked down again and try to get back up again.

02:46:30.000 And so it's a constant struggle, but I'm not going to sit here and be lectured.

02:46:35.000 And again, it's not about the Jews, but I'm not, as a Jewish American who has always been pro-America, I don't have dual loyalty, I don't have dual citizenship.

02:46:45.000 I've always been for Trump.

02:46:46.000 I've always been for America.

02:46:48.000 I was the president of College Republicans.

02:46:50.000 I was valedictorian.

02:46:51.000 I'm not going to be told that I am not an American or that I'm not a loyal American because my family is Jewish, right?

02:47:00.000 Like, I'm just not going to be told that.

02:47:02.000 I'm just not going to be told by anybody that my voice doesn't matter and that the voices of other people don't matter because they believe Israel has a right to exist or because they believe that evangelical Christians have a right to exist.

02:47:16.000 And so I think everybody has a moral obligation, and especially if you call yourself a conservative, to speak out about this, right?

02:47:23.000 to speak out about it because it's not it's not about israeli policy i have no problem with people being anti-israel i i don't i don't really understand why you would be anti-israel yeah it doesn't it doesn't make i don't get it if that what makes you proud if you sleep better at night you just say i oppose uh the settlers or whatever well i don't okay right i don't have a problem though if people want to criticize israel Okay, great.

02:47:50.000 Go criticize Israel. 0.69

02:47:52.000 But we need to stop pretending like this was ever just about having a foreign policy debate.

02:47:56.000 It's no longer about a foreign policy debate, right?

02:47:59.000 We're at the point where people are literally trying to justify Sharia law.

02:48:03.000 I mean, if people don't believe me, they can't say that.

02:48:04.000 Because that's not what people mean.

02:48:06.000 Right.

02:48:06.000 Yeah.

02:48:07.000 That's not what people mean when they say, oh, why can't I criticize Israel?

02:48:10.000 I mean, you know, actually a friend of mine is going to write a piece for Tablet.

02:48:14.000 And I was saying like, well, what does that mean?

02:48:16.000 It's nonsense.

02:48:16.000 It means nothing.

02:48:17.000 It's garbage. 1.00

02:48:18.000 Why can't I criticize Israel? 1.00

02:48:19.000 It's a garbage state. 1.00

02:48:20.000 As they criticize Israel every single day. 1.00

02:48:23.000 Like, I just love when they say you're not allowed to talk about it, but it's all they talk about.

02:48:27.000 Right.

02:48:28.000 It's like, well, what are you criticizing?

02:48:28.000 But it's not just that.

02:48:30.000 Like traffic laws?

02:48:32.000 I don't get it.

02:48:32.000 What are you so proud of?

02:48:34.000 Like some sort of debate in the Knesset that I don't get it. 0.99

02:48:37.000 So none of these people, it's all total garbage. 0.99

02:48:42.000 All right. 0.99

02:48:42.000 The important thing for Americans is we're seeing it happen on the ground right now in the Middle East. 0.99

02:48:48.000 If you weren't paying attention since October 7th, watching Israel roll up its adversaries and American adversaries, states and enclaves and militias that have killed Americans.

02:49:03.000 Right now, the United States and Israel are working together in one of the greatest wartime relationships and human alliances in human history.

02:49:13.000 And the partnership, as Donald Trump keeps saying, what he has, the relationship he has with Bibi Netanyahu is extraordinary.

02:49:20.000 So yeah, it's very moving.

02:49:21.000 So people who don't get that, I'm sorry, you're not paying attention.

02:49:24.000 If you're not watching that and you want to criticize Israel, whatever that means, well, knock yourself out.

02:49:30.000 Absolutely.

02:49:32.000 Lee, where do people follow you?

02:49:33.000 They want to read your content, follow you on social media.

02:49:36.000 Tablet, Tablet.

02:49:38.000 They should definitely read Tablet.

02:49:39.000 And, you know, Tablet, we have a regular magazine now, too.

02:49:42.000 It's a beautiful magazine.

02:49:44.000 So I encourage people to subscribe and get and subscribe to Tablet.

02:49:49.000 And of course, we're online too.

02:49:52.000 And, you know, I'm on Twitter and Truth Social.

02:49:55.000 So if people want to look there.

02:49:59.000 And again, Lord, it's been really great talking with you this evening.

02:50:02.000 Thank you.

02:50:03.000 Absolutely, Lee.

02:50:05.000 Thank you so much for coming on my program.

02:50:07.000 And anytime that you want to come on my show and talk about your writing or talk about any of the issues going on in our country, I look forward to having you on again.

02:50:16.000 I look forward to it.

02:50:16.000 Thank you.

02:50:17.000 That'd be great.

02:50:18.000 Thanks so much.

02:50:18.000 Have a great evening.

02:50:19.000 You too.

02:50:20.000 Thank you.

02:50:22.000 It's great.

02:50:23.000 Very good interview with Lee Smith.

02:50:26.000 He always has so many great things to say.

02:50:28.000 I really like Lee Smith.

02:50:30.000 There's not a lot of people these days in conservative media who I can actually say I enjoy reading their content anymore.

02:50:36.000 Sad.

02:50:37.000 But a lot of people, they've been infected.

02:50:39.000 They really honestly have this derangement syndrome and it's very, very alarming.

02:50:44.000 I mean, I think a lot of people are just very in denial. 0.86

02:50:48.000 And, you know, I can go ahead and play some of these clips, but you have people just doing mental gymnastics trying to justify the most asinine things.

02:50:58.000 You have Tucker Carlson interviewing a CCP asset this last week, talking about how America needs to cede their power to China.

02:51:07.000 You have Tucker Carlson just last night in his interview talking about how we need to support Sharia law because Sharia law and in cities and in countries where they have Sharia law, societies operate in a better way.

02:51:21.000 It's cleaner.

02:51:23.000 I'm not making this up.

02:51:24.000 I mean, we can, we have these clips.

02:51:25.000 We can go ahead and play them for you right now.

02:51:27.000 You can hear them for yourself.

02:51:30.000 But this is just not normal.

02:51:32.000 This is not what conservatism represents.

02:51:34.000 This is not what these people claim to represent when, you know, they were on Fox News or they had their big shows and they're big conservative audiences.

02:51:45.000 And we went from seeing Tucker Carlson in his book talk about how Islamic immigration is one of the worst things that could ever happen to our country and how it doesn't do anything but bring chaos and dirtiness to our country.

02:51:57.000 And now, right?

02:51:58.000 It's a little bit long.

02:51:59.000 This clip is about five minutes long.

02:52:00.000 We can play it for you.

02:52:02.000 Now we have Tucker Carlson talking about how great Islam is and how amazing Sharia law is and how, wow, I mean, every time I go to an American city, it's just so dirty. 1.00

02:52:12.000 And I go to the Middle East and I love going to the Middle East because it's so clean. 1.00

02:52:16.000 So because there's some trash on the ground or because, you know, the city's a little bit dirty in the United States, we're just going to toss out our Western civilization and our culture and we're going to become a Sharia civilization. 1.00

02:52:27.000 We're going to become an Islamic civilization. 0.87

02:52:29.000 That's what Tucker wants because, well, he doesn't like how dirty it is in America. 0.74

02:52:34.000 So what's the solution to trash on the ground?

02:52:37.000 It's not hauling the garbage truck or calling in sanitation services or putting some more public resources into cleaning up your cities.

02:52:45.000 No, it's abandoning the constitution, according to Tucker, and implementing Sharia law.

02:52:51.000 But don't take it from me.

02:52:52.000 You can listen to Tucker in his own words.

02:52:54.000 I travel so much that I see it.

02:52:57.000 There's not a single Western city that's thriving.

02:53:02.000 And they're all degrading in exactly the same way.

02:53:05.000 Is a lot of it just a moral decay?

02:53:07.000 Or is it actually true from everything?

02:53:09.000 It's a lot of things, but it's self-hatred. 0.91

02:53:11.000 Crazy. 0.81

02:53:11.000 Every city. 0.81

02:53:12.000 Every European city, every American city, it's just white. 1.00

02:53:14.000 People lose their will to live, their will to pass on their culture, their values, their religion to their children, their will to have children. 0.99

02:53:21.000 It's all gone.

02:53:23.000 I mean, it's not gone with everybody, but I mean, in the cities, you really see it.

02:53:26.000 It's like the people who built this are long gone and their descendants have fled and they don't care enough to keep it going.

02:53:34.000 There's just a lack of self-respect that is disgusting to me.

02:53:38.000 And I have contempt for it.

02:53:40.000 I don't, it doesn't bother me to be hated.

02:53:43.000 What really bothers me is when people hate themselves.

02:53:46.000 If you hate, if you hate yourself, how are you going to treat me?

02:53:49.000 That's correct.

02:53:50.000 Oh, man.

02:53:51.000 I don't like it.

02:53:52.000 And I notice it because I travel outside the Western world, the white world. 0.96

02:53:58.000 I'm just be honest, the white world. 0.85

02:53:59.000 I travel a lot in the Middle East.

02:54:02.000 It's amazing.

02:54:03.000 It's amazing.

02:54:04.000 I'm not Muslim, obviously. 0.92

02:54:06.000 In fact, I'm like Christian, you know, flat out Christian.

02:54:09.000 And my ancestors are from Europe.

02:54:12.000 And so I'm not, I have nothing in common on that level with the Gulf.

02:54:18.000 But you go to the Gulf and it's incredible to be in a place that has pride in itself, that believes in its religion and culture, that thinks we're onto something.

02:54:28.000 This is great.

02:54:29.000 We're really proud of this.

02:54:29.000 Look at what we're doing.

02:54:31.000 Those people are happy.

02:54:33.000 They're welcoming of others.

02:54:34.000 They're tolerant of diversity.

02:54:36.000 Like, oh, is it tolerant of diversity?

02:54:38.000 There's none of that here.

02:54:39.000 Are you kidding? 0.89

02:54:40.000 All the whites, oh, we love black people. 0.99

02:54:42.000 And they run and move to Bozeman because they're no white people. 0.99

02:54:45.000 Absolutely.

02:54:45.000 Send their kids to the country.

02:54:47.000 They hate diversity.

02:54:48.000 They hate it.

02:54:49.000 And our version of it isn't working at all.

02:54:52.000 Like at all.

02:54:53.000 So, but you go to a country like Japan or the Emirates or Qatar or Saudi Arabia and you see that when people are self-confident, when they're really pleased with what they're doing and they believe that their system is the right system, that self-confidence results in a kind of welcoming attitude.

02:55:14.000 So you'll be sitting at dinner in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and you'll say, you know, I just, I'm really kind of pro-Jesus, like I'm a Christian.

02:55:23.000 They'll be like, oh, that's so great.

02:55:24.000 And they don't have the same.

02:55:26.000 Well, they mean it.

02:55:27.000 They don't have the same beliefs.

02:55:28.000 They're Muslims.

02:55:29.000 It's a country governed by Sharia law.

02:55:29.000 They're Muslims.

02:55:31.000 Right.

02:55:32.000 And they're like, that's great.

02:55:33.000 Good for you.

02:55:34.000 It's great.

02:55:34.000 Yeah.

02:55:35.000 And you notice like in the in ISIS or Al-Qaeda or like the Muslim extremists, they're all from like collapsed, pathetic societies dominated by colonial powers. 1.00

02:55:48.000 They've been degraded and that's why they're so angry. 0.93

02:55:52.000 Right. 0.62

02:55:52.000 So there's something about being degraded that turns you into a violent nutcase extremist. 0.62

02:55:57.000 You're seeing a lot of violent nutcase extremists in our country.

02:55:59.000 Not surprising because the country's being degraded.

02:56:01.000 Correct.

02:56:02.000 So in a country with self-confidence, people are tolerant and open-minded and happy.

02:56:07.000 And in a country where people are told to hate themselves, they start to hate others.

02:56:12.000 This is all very obvious, but I only know that because I've traveled a lot.

02:56:12.000 Duh.

02:56:17.000 And I am naturally open-minded.

02:56:21.000 Like just because you don't do it my way doesn't mean it's bad.

02:56:23.000 Like I really feel that way where they're into things that I'm not into, like, I don't know, polygamy or Islam.

02:56:28.000 And I can sort of look at it and be like, no one's forcing this on me.

02:56:32.000 I'm not mad at you for being a polygamist. 0.85

02:56:34.000 I think it's really hard, but whatever, leaving that aside, but I can go to a place like that and I don't feel like I need to judge everybody on their, on their local customs.

02:56:42.000 I just don't feel that need.

02:56:44.000 And, but in the process of doing that, like you just, you get perspective on your own society.

02:56:50.000 And the core problem is a loss of faith in our people, in our values, in our religion.

02:56:59.000 I just don't believe anything.

02:57:00.000 I don't care what you tell me. 0.90

02:57:03.000 Like, I'm noticing that New York City has people shitting on the sidewalk or having sex in ATM vestibules and people are dying of drug ODs on the street in their carjacks. 0.96

02:57:12.000 You're telling me it's thriving. 0.95

02:57:13.000 I was just there.

02:57:14.000 It's not.

02:57:15.000 I don't care what stats you throw. 0.92

02:57:17.000 Well, according, according to the American Academy of bullshit, it's actually the best it's ever been. 0.97

02:57:22.000 I was there last week. 0.98

02:57:22.000 Really? 0.98

02:57:23.000 It's not.

02:57:24.000 All I'm saying is let's treat the people who run the banks, the people who are getting rich from usury like the criminals they are and make them suffer because that's totally fair.

02:57:34.000 If you exploit and destroy people, you're not a good person.

02:57:39.000 And we should just say that.

02:57:40.000 And I think we should start by getting collective action.

02:57:43.000 Everybody who's deep in credit card debt, I don't care what your race would be, actually a way to unify the country.

02:57:48.000 We're just going to have this month all getting together and we're not going to pay our credit card bill.

02:57:53.000 That would be amazing.

02:57:55.000 What do you think?

02:57:55.000 That would be amazing.

02:57:56.000 But your average person can't do that.

02:57:58.000 So why don't we all get together and do that?

02:58:00.000 You know what would happen if we did that?

02:58:01.000 I'd be assassinated immediately just for saying that.

02:58:05.000 He's so paranoid, right? 0.96

02:58:08.000 He always thinks he's going to be assassinated.

02:58:10.000 He went to Israel, wouldn't leave the airport. 0.90

02:58:13.000 I'm going to be assassinated. 0.99

02:58:14.000 I'm going to be assassinated.

02:58:16.000 But it's funny because when other people say that they're going to be assassinated, he says it never happened, right?

02:58:20.000 Like when President Trump says that Iran wanted to assassinate him, Tucker says, oh, that never happened, right?

02:58:26.000 It's just, it's so interesting watching somebody deny the death threats on somebody else's life, but then they're so paranoid, right?

02:58:32.000 He's just so paranoid about being assassinated himself.

02:58:37.000 Czar.

02:58:40.000 So I talked earlier in my opening monologue and also in my conversation with Lee Smith tonight about how Joe Kent is now being condemned by a lot of people on the right because he has apparently agreed or said that he is going to testify or would be willing to testify in the trial of Tyler Robinson, who, of course, assassinated Charlie Kirk.

02:59:05.000 And we really have seen the turning point staff kind of avoid talking about these influencers or people in the administration who have kind of, you know, enabled a lot of these conspiracies.

02:59:18.000 They don't say anything about Candace Owens.

02:59:20.000 They don't say anything about Tucker Carlson.

02:59:22.000 They don't say anything about Megan Kelly.

02:59:25.000 And a lot of people have just kind of watched this for, you know, since September of last year.

02:59:31.000 It's been painful to watch, right?

02:59:34.000 It's like watching a battered wife just constantly, you know, sit there, not stand up for herself. 1.00

02:59:41.000 I don't want to say like go back for more, but in some cases, yeah, it is like going back for more because Tucker and Megan were invited to speak at Turning Point events, even though they're entertaining a lot of these depraved conspiracy theories.

02:59:52.000 I mean, Tucker the other night had Joe Kent on a show and Joe Kent's talking about how, well, you know, the Trump administration's covering up the fact that Israel killed Charlie Kirk and Kash Patel wouldn't exactly allow me to see the documents.

03:00:05.000 It's like, nobody wants you to see any documents, Cash or excuse me, Joe, because you are a leaker and this is why you and Cash got in a fight in the White House.

03:00:14.000 They had a screaming mash in the White House. 0.94

03:00:15.000 This was well reported because eventually Kash Patel had to go to the president and tell him that these crazy lunatics over ODNI were trying to use the investigation materials from Charlie Kirk's assassination investigation file to push these crazy foreign conspiracy theories, right?

03:00:34.000 These crazy conspiracy theories that were not rooted in any evidence whatsoever, except the imagination, the psychosis, the Israel derangement syndrome in Joe Kent's mind and Candace Owens' mind and Tucker Carlson's mind.

03:00:47.000 And of course, in the mind of Joe Kent's new wife, Heather Kaiser, who seems to be a bit of a leftist, worked for Max Blumenthal.

03:00:55.000 You always, it's very telling when people's spouses die.

03:00:59.000 Terrible tragedy.

03:01:02.000 But, you know, I guess his wife, the one that died, from people I know who served with her, people I know who know her, said that she was a nice lady, normal. 0.88

03:01:13.000 His new wife, well, crazy views. 1.00

03:01:17.000 You go to her Twitter account, sounds like a total leftist, sounds like a total communist the way that she speaks. 0.92

03:01:22.000 Constantly reposting anti-American content, constantly reposting Max Blumenthal's content.

03:01:28.000 Then I break the story about how his wife works for Max Blumenthal at Grey Zone.

03:01:32.000 And now other people have finally picked up on this.

03:01:35.000 I put that out last year and gave it to the White House last year and told them, hey, you know, it's kind of weird that the director of national counterterrorism is married to a woman who works for Max Blumenthal, who's constantly attacking the Trump administration and says that he has all these sources from inside our intel agencies.

03:01:51.000 Well, who's he getting this information to?

03:01:53.000 Is it Joe Kent?

03:01:54.000 Is it Joe Kent's wife?

03:01:56.000 Because, you know, people are going to tell their spouses about what their day at work was like.

03:01:59.000 It's called pillow talk, right?

03:02:01.000 That's why you're not allowed to testify against your spouse.

03:02:06.000 So now a lot of these people, I guess, who work at Turning Point, maybe they're having buyers from Wars.

03:02:14.000 I don't know.

03:02:14.000 They're starting to realize that the people that they brought on board, the people who they trusted, the people who they thought were Charlie's friends, like, no, everybody thinks that they were Charlie's best friend.

03:02:25.000 Everybody, everybody has a Charlie story.

03:02:27.000 Everybody thinks that they're Charlie Kirk's best friend.

03:02:30.000 Everybody thinks that Charlie Kirk believed everything that they believed in.

03:02:34.000 And Charlie told them before he died.

03:02:36.000 Charlie told them before he died.

03:02:40.000 It's insufferable, really, listening to all these podcasters and their crazy conspiracies say in the most disrespectful way possible over a dead man's body that they know that Charlie Kirk believed in this crazy Jewish conspiracy theory because he told me.

03:02:56.000 He told me.

03:02:58.000 He told me before he died.

03:02:59.000 And I know I don't have evidence of that because he's dead.

03:03:02.000 You're just going to have to believe me.

03:03:03.000 I mean, that's how these people operate.

03:03:05.000 Even Joe Kent has no shame after leaking this information to Candace Owens and lying and saying that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

03:03:12.000 Joe Kent tells this crazy story about how, oh, well, you know, I knew Charlie and he looked at me in the White House.

03:03:18.000 He saw me in the Oval Office.

03:03:20.000 I mean, really, he really said this.

03:03:21.000 You can find the clip and play it yourself.

03:03:24.000 He said he was in the Oval Office.

03:03:26.000 He was in the West Wing of the White House.

03:03:28.000 And it was a very dramatic scene, of course.

03:03:31.000 Everything with Joe Kent is very dramatic.

03:03:34.000 And he saw Charlie out of the corner of his eyes.

03:03:37.000 And this was right before Operation Midnight Hammer.

03:03:39.000 And he looked at Charlie and Charlie looked at him and their eyes, their eyes met.

03:03:45.000 It was like, you know, lovers crossing paths.

03:03:50.000 And Charlie apparently said, Joe, save us, Joe.

03:03:55.000 Save us.

03:03:56.000 Don't let Donald Trump go to war with Iran. 1.00

03:03:58.000 I mean, it's just such a bullshit story. 0.99

03:04:00.000 Yeah, yeah, because you're going to be shouting messages with each other. 0.99

03:04:03.000 And Charlie Kirk is really going to be begging Joe Kent of all people to save us from an Iran war, right? 0.97

03:04:09.000 When Charlie Kirk got the president's cell phone number, okay?

03:04:11.000 The president met with Charlie Kirk.

03:04:13.000 Charlie Kirk was at the White House on a frequent basis.

03:04:15.000 You mean to tell me that we're supposed to believe that there was this whole dramatic showdown?

03:04:20.000 You can go to the chat.

03:04:21.000 I want to see what people think about this, but you can't help but mock it, right?

03:04:24.000 And I'm not trying to mock anything about Charlie Kirk.

03:04:26.000 I mean, look, he's dead, but the reality is, it's like everybody has a Charlie Kirk story.

03:04:31.000 Everybody.

03:04:32.000 Oh, well, Charlie told me this.

03:04:34.000 And Charlie told me that he believed in the JQ.

03:04:37.000 And you just have to trust me.

03:04:38.000 Charlie was actually a Catholic.

03:04:40.000 Charlie actually didn't really like his wife.

03:04:43.000 Charlie was getting a divorce.

03:04:44.000 Charlie slept in a different room.

03:04:46.000 Charlie this, Charlie this, Charlie that.

03:04:48.000 Like everybody wants to say like what Charlie believed and what he thought and what he they thought he believed so that they could fit their own twisted narrative.

03:04:57.000 And a lot of these people were platformed by TPUSA.

03:05:01.000 We just have to say it.

03:05:03.000 A lot of these crazy people who are now a problem were platformed by TPUSA.

03:05:08.000 Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens. 0.99

03:05:10.000 I mean, shit, Candace Owens was practically born out of TPUSA, right? 0.99

03:05:16.000 Give him her job. 1.00

03:05:17.000 Now she's trying to destroy him and his wife because Charlie Kirk wouldn't date her. 1.00

03:05:21.000 I don't know. 0.99

03:05:22.000 Maybe he wasn't into black chicks. 1.00

03:05:24.000 I don't know. 0.99

03:05:25.000 Chose the pretty white blonde. 0.99

03:05:28.000 Chose the pretty white blonde over her. 0.98

03:05:30.000 She just can't cope.

03:05:31.000 She just can't cope.

03:05:32.000 So now she's lashing out like a woman scorned. 1.00

03:05:36.000 I mean, let's be real.

03:05:37.000 That's what this is really about, right?

03:05:40.000 Charlie chose Erica.

03:05:41.000 He didn't choose Candace.

03:05:42.000 And Candace is, well, you look at Candace's wedding photo on her wedding day and her scowl next to her husband, George, who some people say is gay.

03:05:52.000 Again, just saying there are some claims out there that she married a homosexual man.

03:05:57.000 And then you look at her photo on her wedding day next to Charlie Kirk and you compare the two.

03:06:01.000 And in her husband's photo, she's just standing there, right?

03:06:05.000 Kind of a forced smile grin on her face.

03:06:07.000 And then with Charlie Kirk, it's like, right?

03:06:11.000 She's in for the camera. 0.94

03:06:11.000 She's in. 0.94

03:06:13.000 So I think it says a lot that on a woman's wedding day, it's supposed to be the happiest day of her life, right?

03:06:20.000 Supposedly.

03:06:21.000 I don't know.

03:06:22.000 Supposed to be the happiest day of your life as a woman, they say.

03:06:26.000 And you're happier smiling next to Charlie Kirk than your own husband.

03:06:32.000 So they welcomed all these people in, and there has to be some accountability. 0.98

03:06:36.000 And I'm not shit talking. 0.96

03:06:37.000 I had conversations with people at Turning Point about this, and I told them. 0.98

03:06:40.000 I said exactly how I feel.

03:06:42.000 I said, I think what's happening to you is morally reprehensible.

03:06:46.000 I condemn the attacks on Erica.

03:06:48.000 I condemn the attacks on Tyler Boyer.

03:06:50.000 I condemn the attacks on Turning Point staff and the harassment.

03:06:54.000 But two things can be true.

03:06:57.000 I can condemn the attacks on Turning Point and also admit that Charlie Kirk had horrible judgment of character.

03:07:04.000 Okay.

03:07:04.000 He did not surround himself with people that had his best interests in mind.

03:07:08.000 Okay.

03:07:09.000 These people who want to, I'm not talking about these staff right here, but people, like so-called influencer friends who are now jumping in on the bandwagon, trashing his wife, attacking his wife.

03:07:23.000 And then instead of actually naming influencers by name, they say, oh, it's so sad what happened to his wife and kids.

03:07:30.000 Well, why don't you actually name the people who are attacking him, right?

03:07:34.000 But they don't want to actually name them because they all want to be friends with each other, right?

03:07:38.000 They all want to go on each other's shows and have access to each other.

03:07:42.000 And you're not really seeing a lot of people express moral clarity in condemning this.

03:07:46.000 But apparently, I guess Andrew Colvet, who's one of Charlie Kirk's right-hand men before he died, gave these text messages to Joe Kent because they wanted to try to track down all leads.

03:07:58.000 And so Joe Kent, being the director of National Counterterrorism Center, had apparently told Andrew Colvet that if he gave him these private text messages from Charlie Kirk, they would try to track down leads and see if there was any kind of foreign influence, right?

03:08:10.000 Because Andrew said, it's not that he believed that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

03:08:14.000 He wanted to know if there was any foreign influence from any government, right?

03:08:17.000 Because there are a lot of people speculating that maybe there was some kind of foreign actor, Islamic, whatever it may be, right?

03:08:24.000 So he gave him these text messages and told him he didn't want them to be public.

03:08:30.000 And Joe Kent ends up leaking them to Candace Owens.

03:08:33.000 And, well, you're not supposed to leak them to Candace.

03:08:36.000 Candace ends up taking that material to then exploit Charlie Kirk's wife, exploit Charlie Kirk's kids, exploit Turning Point USA, and to further promote her deranged conspiracy theories. 1.00

03:08:47.000 And just listen to this, right?

03:08:48.000 This is Blake Neff.

03:08:49.000 Again, Blake Neff, the guy who's bald.

03:08:52.000 He used to be Tucker Carlson's lead writer until he was fired for allegedly making racist and sexist remarks.

03:08:57.000 I mean, look, they made him resign.

03:09:00.000 He was kind of fired, right?

03:09:01.000 When you're forced out, when you're forced to resign, it's not really resigning.

03:09:04.000 You're more fired than anything.

03:09:05.000 But you have to remember, this guy was Tucker Carlson's lead writer. 0.99

03:09:08.000 So is he really going to be condemning his former boss for his deranged promotion of Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories, whether it be promoting Ian Carroll, who was called Erica Kirk a whore and a bitch, or whether it be promoting Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes, who also have called and referred to Erica as a bitch, right? 0.96

03:09:28.000 Just like vile treatment of a widow who is obviously trying to do her best to carry on her husband's legacy and be a mother for two young babies that are never going to know their father, really. 0.97

03:09:43.000 Just horrible tragedy.

03:09:46.000 And you can see that, you know, now they're finally having to admit, oh, the betrayal, the betrayal, the betrayal is so severe.

03:09:52.000 Well, a lot of people have been warning about this for a long time before these, you know, text messages became public and before it was revealed that Joe Kent plans on testifying in the trial of Tyler Robinson.

03:10:07.000 And now they talk about how they feel so betrayed, but there's a lot of people that surround a lot of these turning point staffers.

03:10:13.000 Some of these turning point staffers themselves, I'm not necessarily talking about Andrew Colvet, but I would say that in a way, Blake Neff is betraying Charlie Kirk, right?

03:10:22.000 Thinks that he's his friend.

03:10:24.000 This guy is protecting Tucker Carlson. 0.98

03:10:27.000 He was Tucker Carlson's former lead writer, and you never hear him condemn some of the shit that Tucker says or the people who he's promoted. 0.97

03:10:34.000 So I agree. 0.91

03:10:35.000 They should feel absolutely betrayed by Joe Kent, but they should also feel betrayed by some of their own staff and their own officials who have shown a lack of moral clarity in condemning people who other people at Turning Point USA considered their friends.

03:10:50.000 Oh my God, I'm friends with Candace Owens.

03:10:52.000 I'm friends with Tucker Carlson.

03:10:53.000 I'm friends with this person.

03:10:54.000 I'm friends with that person.

03:10:56.000 Who cares?

03:10:57.000 Like, who cares at the end of the day who you're friends with?

03:10:59.000 Right?

03:11:00.000 If you're really Charlie Kirk's friend, aren't you going to actually stand up for his wife? 1.00

03:11:04.000 Are you going to let her be called a bitch and a whore and let Joe Rogan say, oh, she's got a dick. 1.00

03:11:09.000 Oh, like she's so crazy. 1.00

03:11:10.000 Have you seen her eyes? 0.90

03:11:11.000 Have you seen her eyes?

03:11:12.000 Like, that's not what friends do.

03:11:15.000 And I find it hard to believe that Charlie Kirk would be okay with his friends standing by while his wife is getting viciously harassed and attacked on a daily basis.

03:11:24.000 So I find this clip to be somewhat amusing.

03:11:26.000 I'm going to play it.

03:11:28.000 I mean, I'm glad that Turning Point is finally calling out Joe Kent and saying that he's a leaker and that they feel betrayed.

03:11:35.000 But at the end of the day, I think that some of the Turning Point staff really need to exercise some personal accountability and some of the friendships that they made and some of the people who they gave a platform to.

03:11:45.000 And I was criticized for criticizing Charlie Kirk in the weeks leading up to his assassination.

03:11:51.000 But I stand by what I said.

03:11:52.000 I never deleted my tweet because I agree.

03:11:55.000 I liked the idea of open free speech and debate, but this was never about free speech and debate.

03:12:03.000 These people never really wanted to debate Israeli policy.

03:12:07.000 They wanted to hijack Turning Point USA.

03:12:10.000 And nobody ever thought Charlie would be assassinated.

03:12:13.000 But then when he was assassinated, it gave them an opportunity to complete that hostile takeover, which is what they ultimately tried to do.

03:12:20.000 When, you know, we saw all these Jew haters and people that were enabling all of this, you know, derangement about Jewish people in Israel and Muslims.

03:12:28.000 When I say Muslims, like promoting Muslims, right? 0.99

03:12:31.000 Promoting Islam to be platformed at Turning Point events while Charlie was alive. 0.76

03:12:35.000 So again, let's go ahead and play this clip.

03:12:38.000 It's just further affirmation about how depraved Joe Kent is.

03:12:41.000 This is Turning Point responding today to the report that Joe Kent says he's going to testify on behalf in support of Tyler Robinson, who murdered Charlie Kirk.

03:12:52.000 Moments ago, a new report from journalist Michael Schellenberger dropped.

03:12:57.000 As you know, yesterday we covered the backstory, but what really happened with the screen grabs, the notorious screen grabs now.

03:13:07.000 And I revealed to this audience that I did in fact share that screen grab with Joe Kent.

03:13:14.000 And Joe suggested that I leak that publicly.

03:13:18.000 I declined.

03:13:19.000 He actually, I went back through our messages and he suggested I do so twice.

03:13:23.000 I declined.

03:13:24.000 Obviously, those were private messages.

03:13:26.000 I wanted to keep them private for Charlie's sake.

03:13:29.000 I thought it was honoring my friend.

03:13:31.000 Anyway, so this new report comes out from Schellenberger and it says, as you see on your screen, that Joe Kent says he's willing to testify at the trial of Tyler Robinson.

03:13:45.000 So this is obviously a huge bombshell and escalates everything to a much bigger level.

03:13:51.000 I have reached out to Michael Schellenberger and he has agreed to come on the show today.

03:13:56.000 He interviewed Joe Kent for this report.

03:13:58.000 So these are Joe Kent's own words.

03:14:00.000 Michael Schellenberger will be joining us at 1.30 Eastern.

03:14:04.000 So set your clocks and please, please, please tune in then.

03:14:08.000 It's going to be an important conversation.

03:14:10.000 And Blake, let's just take this out a step and explain why this is actually a really important thing.

03:14:18.000 As you know, there's a lot of conspiracy theories that we do not indulge, that we do not discuss.

03:14:24.000 This is different.

03:14:25.000 Joe Kent was a government official at a very important post, and now he's saying he's willing to testify ostensibly on behalf of Tyler Robinson.

03:14:36.000 Yes.

03:14:38.000 This is a bigger deal.

03:14:39.000 This is a line crossed that we have not seen.

03:14:42.000 I mean, let's just recite it where he says, Kent, this is Schellenberger's reporting on Substek.

03:14:42.000 Yes.

03:14:49.000 Kent said he knew he might be called as a witness before he made his statements that a quote, foreign nexus may have been involved in Kirk's assassination.

03:14:58.000 I was definitely warned of that over and over again, said Kent.

03:15:02.000 If I end up having to play that role, then I'll do it.

03:15:05.000 It's not something I'm seeking.

03:15:06.000 When pressed that his testimony could help the Robinson defense, Kent said, then honestly, so be it.

03:15:12.000 If it gets us to the truth, that's obviously the risk I'm taking.

03:15:17.000 Neither Robinson's attorneys nor the prosecuting attorneys responded to a request for comment.

03:15:21.000 And then looks, I'm not sure if there's more.

03:15:23.000 I might have to pay for Schellenberger's subscription.

03:15:26.000 Yeah, but.

03:15:27.000 Yeah, I'm sure it does go further.

03:15:29.000 And we're going to, like I said, be talking to Michael Schellenberger in the second half of next hour at 1.30 Eastern.

03:15:36.000 And I can't wait to hear what he has to say.

03:15:39.000 Some people are so obsessed with these same conspiracies that they concoct for every other thing that ever happens.

03:15:48.000 And so they have to shove it into this one too, because they care more about their conspiracy theories than about the person who murdered my friend facing justice.

03:15:57.000 I am fed up with it.

03:15:58.000 Yeah, and you should be.

03:16:00.000 And this, this is.

03:16:03.000 He's so fed up.

03:16:04.000 Like, he's so fed up, you guys.

03:16:06.000 He's so fed up that he won't even call out his own former boss, Tucker Katarlson, who he used to write for.

03:16:11.000 He was the lead writer for at Fox News before he got fired or resigned, right?

03:16:15.000 Gave him the option to resign.

03:16:16.000 It's like getting fired. 1.00

03:16:17.000 Same shit. 1.00

03:16:19.000 So again, it's like, I'm so offended. 1.00

03:16:22.000 I'm so offended.

03:16:24.000 I cannot believe these people.

03:16:25.000 They're so consumed by their anti-Israel, but like conspiracy theory this conspiracy theory that.

03:16:31.000 Well, aren't you one of the biggest promoters of these conspiracy theories by proxy by sitting around and not actually calling it out?

03:16:38.000 I mean, Tucker's your friend, right?

03:16:39.000 Tucker is who you used to work for.

03:16:41.000 Tucker went on vacation for a week when you had to resign from Fox News at a protest.

03:16:46.000 Remember, you can look it up.

03:16:47.000 All this stuff is public.

03:16:48.000 You can see it yourself.

03:16:49.000 You're so outraged that people are promoting these conspiracy theories because Tyler Robinson killed my friend.

03:16:55.000 Well, then why do you say nothing when Tucker has Ian Carroll on and they say that Israel killed Charlie Kirk?

03:17:01.000 Why do you say nothing when they have Candace Owens on or they have Nick Fuentes on and they lie and they say that Tyler Robinson didn't kill Charlie Kirk?

03:17:10.000 I'm not saying that Nick Nick said that Tyler Robinson didn't kill him, but that's what Candace says, right? 0.83

03:17:16.000 And even then, Nick goes on Tucker Carlson's show and then Nick says that Erica Kirk is a whore and like says all these nasty things about her. 0.86

03:17:24.000 And Tucker Carlson then has Nick on a show. 0.97

03:17:27.000 So again, I say it again.

03:17:29.000 I ask the question again.

03:17:30.000 If he's so outraged, so outraged.

03:17:32.000 She's my friend.

03:17:34.000 My friend died.

03:17:35.000 You're lying about my friend.

03:17:37.000 Then why don't you actually call the people out by name?

03:17:41.000 Who's the biggest promoter of this?

03:17:42.000 Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson.

03:17:44.000 You're not going to call Tucker out because you used to work for him.

03:17:47.000 And maybe, just maybe, he's still friends with Tucker, right?

03:17:50.000 I don't know how you can be friends with somebody like that if you're truly their friend, right?

03:17:55.000 You wrote for Tucker, Tucker's your friend.

03:17:56.000 And then yet Tucker goes up on stage at Charlie Kirk's Memorial and says that the hummus people, the people who eat hummus, they killed Charlie and they killed Jesus.

03:18:05.000 Well, who are the people who eat hummus, right?

03:18:07.000 Come on.

03:18:08.000 So the Jews, of course, right? 0.68

03:18:09.000 The Jews. 0.64

03:18:12.000 So this is what I'm talking about, about just like the lack of moral clarity and just all of this fake outrage.

03:18:19.000 If you're going to call something out, then actually be principled, right?

03:18:22.000 Stop protecting people in your own inner circle and only saying something now because it's so egregious.

03:18:28.000 Like you didn't know that Joe Kent engaged in neo-Nazi conspiracy theories.

03:18:31.000 The guy literally lost most of his, both of his congressional races because he got caught going on a white supremacist podcast, right?

03:18:39.000 Hello?

03:18:40.000 It's not exactly new that this guy has weird feelings about Jewish people.

03:18:45.000 So we can continue playing this clip.

03:18:51.000 I mean, this is a tough job for us today, to be honest, because this is really personal.

03:18:58.000 I have been open to everything.

03:19:00.000 I think, candidly, I don't get enough credit for even the fact that I shared these group chats in the first place.

03:19:07.000 We shared a lot of information about trans, about Charlie, how Charlie was more concerned about than any other community about the trans coming after him.

03:19:16.000 You want to know the truth?

03:19:18.000 That's actually the truth.

03:19:19.000 I heard over the course of the last two years of Charlie's life, probably about 50 references of how he knew the trans Tifa was going to come after him.

03:19:28.000 And he was worried about that.

03:19:30.000 That's the truth.

03:19:31.000 Never mentioned one time about the Jews.

03:19:33.000 Okay?

03:19:34.000 Never once.

03:19:35.000 And here's why it's so frustrating is because there is going to be even more evidence that is presented to the public in May at the evidentiary hearing.

03:19:46.000 Okay.

03:19:47.000 And it's a mountain of evidence, some of which has been made public, some of which has not been made public yet.

03:19:53.000 And the prosecution is going to lay out its case against Tyler Robinson.

03:19:57.000 And I'm told it's a whopper.

03:19:59.000 I'm told they've got this guy dead to rights.

03:20:02.000 And meanwhile, you have government officials that are now saying on the record to journalists they are willing to testify on behalf of the defense to get ostensibly to get Tyler Robinson off the hook for something that he did.

03:20:17.000 And so the level of betrayal that I currently feel is dramatic and extreme.

03:20:26.000 The level of just frustration, the idiocy that is on full display, we have to call it out because if this ends up screwing up the jury pool, if this ends up in some ways getting a hung jury, getting this taste, this case thrown out, or even just getting the death penalty off the case, off the potential list of consequences here.

03:20:50.000 I'm not going to be happy with that. 0.85

03:20:52.000 I'm telling you that as somebody who was open to all different options, I didn't care where the truth led.

03:20:59.000 This is where the truth led.

03:21:01.000 This is it. 0.98

03:21:02.000 And for any fair-minded person, this is crackpot conspiracy garbage brain rot stuff. 0.95

03:21:07.000 And now it's gotten really serious. 0.98

03:21:09.000 This isn't podcaster junk. 0.91

03:21:10.000 This isn't like social media conspiracy nonsense. 0.75

03:21:14.000 This is an actual government official who's now going to be called to testify on behalf of the defense.

03:21:19.000 And that is a bridge too far.

03:21:20.000 That is a line in the sand that we must hold because this could negatively impact the trial of the assassin of my friend, of Blake's friend.

03:21:30.000 So that's the breaking news.

03:21:32.000 I don't want to dwell on it for the whole show here because we're going to have Michael Schellenberger come on next in the next hour and he can tell us more about what he knows.

03:21:40.000 But if this is how it reads, this is an egregious, egregious moment that we're having to live through.

03:21:52.000 Strong sell.

03:21:54.000 You know, I don't think we can get all hyped up this time.

03:21:57.000 I'm in a bad mood.

03:21:58.000 Yeah.

03:22:00.000 Such a bad mood.

03:22:02.000 Welcome to the club, Blake. 1.00

03:22:04.000 I've been in a bad mood having to listen to your friend Tucker Carlson talk shit every day. 0.99

03:22:09.000 Welcome to the club. 0.99

03:22:12.000 Tucker Carlson, who Joe Kent gave his exclusive interview to, right?

03:22:17.000 But Turning Point still won't call out Tucker by name.

03:22:20.000 Interesting, right?

03:22:21.000 Turning point endorsed JD Vance for president already ahead of 2028.

03:22:26.000 Haven't heard JD Vance condemn Tucker Carlson.

03:22:28.000 In fact, he's got a son working in his office in the White House, deputy press secretary.

03:22:33.000 So seems like we have a lot more bad days ahead of us, Blake.

03:22:40.000 I'm going to be in a bad mood, too.

03:22:44.000 I mean, it's just, it's very theatrical, right?

03:22:47.000 It's very theatrical, as if like, this is the first time they're realizing that Joe Kent and all these people that have been promoting Joe Kent believe in these deranged conspiracy theories.

03:22:56.000 Did he not watch the Tucker interview?

03:22:59.000 Wasn't Joe Kent's claims that Israel killed Charlie Kirk, something that Blake wanted to criticize when Joe Kent went on the show the other day.

03:23:07.000 They waited until this article by Shellenberger came out today.

03:23:11.000 Right, I had already been saying this.

03:23:13.000 I had already been saying before Shellenberger published his report, if you read my reporting, that Joe Kent was deliberately trying to assist the defense and that Candace was trying to assist the defense.

03:23:23.000 So why is it that they have to wait for an article to come out when it's already obvious to all of us and it's been obvious to us for months that they're trying to aid the defense, right?

03:23:31.000 So again, we can all be outraged all we want, but you have to be consistent.

03:23:36.000 If you're going to be outraged over Joe Kent and his claims that he's going to aid the defense he's going to help Charlie's assassin get off by making up a lie that Israel killed Charlie Kirk under oath in a courtroom then you have to also be just as outraged with Tucker Tarlson for giving him a platform.

03:23:55.000 And you have to be just as outraged with all the government officials who do not explicitly condemn these people, right?

03:24:01.000 You have to be outraged by Tulsi Gabbard for not condemning Joe Kent.

03:24:04.000 You have to be outraged by Jd Vance not condemning Tucker, Carlson.

03:24:07.000 You have to be outraged by all of them and you should be.

03:24:10.000 You should be because this is about moral clarity.

03:24:14.000 Moral clarity, you either have it or you don't.

03:24:18.000 I have it.

03:24:19.000 Tucker does not.

03:24:20.000 Okay, I have it.

03:24:23.000 Tulsy Gabbard does not.

03:24:25.000 I have it.

03:24:26.000 I don't know if Jd Vance has it.

03:24:29.000 I don't know.

03:24:29.000 I'm still waiting on him to condemn Tucker.

03:24:31.000 I thought that maybe Tucker, Sipping for Sharia the other day and saying that there's not a single thriving western city, I thought maybe that would be the line that he crossed. 0.99

03:24:41.000 That was a little too far.

03:24:42.000 That finally got Jd Vance to come out and slam him and condemn him.

03:24:45.000 But still no condemnation.

03:24:48.000 I don't know if we're ever going to get one.

03:24:51.000 I don't know if we're ever going to get one.

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Loomer Unleashed - March 25, 2026

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