00:00:04.000Thank you, everybody who's tuned in to this interview.
00:00:07.000Joining me for an exclusive interview is Miss Cynthia West.
00:00:12.000It's a pleasure to speak with you, Miss West.
00:00:15.000In this exclusive interview for the Loomer Roomer, which will air on Rumble and X and also be featured on my Substack newsletter for my subscribers, we're going to get into some questions.
00:00:25.000And I want to set this interview up fairly for my viewers.
00:00:30.000You have said that you and Congressman Thomas Massey had a romantic relationship from August 2024 to January 2025.
00:00:38.000And that he tried to buy your silence with cash after you ended the relationship.
00:00:44.000When you broke up with Mr. Massey, you were fired from your job in Congresswoman Sparks' office, a job that you alleged Congressman Massey helped you land so that you'd be closer to him in Washington, D.C., while you were dating.
00:00:58.000You then filed a wrongful termination lawsuit against Congresswoman Sparks' office.
00:01:04.000Now, since your viral interview in the form of a deposition has been published, It's received a lot of attention, including commentary from President Donald Trump himself, who shared portions of that interview, as well as commentary and reporting, including my own reporting on your deposition on his true social over the weekend.
00:01:31.000Now, since this deposition has been published and viewed by millions of people, both Congressman Massey and Congresswoman Spartz have denied any wrongdoing.
00:01:42.000Both have attacked you personally, and they have sent their supporters after you personally.
00:01:46.000For coming forward with these allegations, despite themselves attacking President Trump with accusations that he is not being forthright and honest about the Epstein files.
00:02:00.000Now, to set this up and really just explain all the details before we get into this interview so people understand the facts of the matter, instead of taking cash from Massey or a settlement from Sparks' office, which would come with non disclosure agreements, you turned them down and you decided to go public.
00:02:19.000Because Congressman Massey was, in your own words, talking about transparency and victims' rights and having women be heard, and he literally tried to silence me.
00:02:32.000Tonight on Loomer Unleashed, you will not be silenced.
00:02:35.000This discussion is an opportunity for you to tell your story and for you to set the record straight.
00:02:42.000Questions during this interview are going to be broken into six segments.
00:02:46.000Number one, your relationship with Thomas Massey.
00:02:49.000Number two, your time working in Congresswoman Sparks' office.
00:02:54.000Number three, Congressman Massey's alleged cash offer in return for your silence.
00:02:59.000Number four, the broader political discussion and the implications it has given that Congressman Massey's election is taking place in the GOP primary in Kentucky on Tuesday.
00:03:12.000Number five, how this experience has impacted you personally.
00:03:16.000And number six, your personal motivation and reason for going public before the election.
00:03:26.000You've spoken publicly about your relationship with Congressman Thomas Massey.
00:03:31.000In your own words, what are you alleging?
00:03:36.000Well, I think there are several factors here.
00:03:39.000I think that the biggest issue on when we discussed, you know, earlier you're talking about Thomas going out and saying that we needed justice for victims and they needed to be heard.
00:03:51.000The idea of having to sign an NDA and what that meant.
00:03:56.000And also, you know, we had that whole vote for trying to release the names of the members who had used the treasury to pay out for sexual indiscretions.
00:04:09.000And you start talking about, you know, The inappropriate behavior or things that we're seeing from our members, Congress, our elected officials.
00:04:18.000And it didn't sit very well with me and what I experienced too.
00:04:23.000And so there are several things aside from the trying to buy my silence, my experience overall.
00:04:33.000I think I don't want to necessarily try and bring people to a conclusion.
00:04:38.000I think the best idea is to tell them my story and then they can decide is this somebody that they want.
00:04:50.000What do you want viewers to understand by the end of the interview, especially as voters head to the polls on Tuesday to either vote for or against Congressman Massey?
00:05:01.000Well, if we're going to talk about transparency, if we're going to talk about authenticity, right, like in this process, I'm basically laying myself out raw because in order to speak true, who thinks?
00:05:16.000There's so much criticism that comes with it.
00:05:19.000And there's people who think I'm getting paid for it.
00:05:24.000And the reason I'm doing this is because I really, truly feel that it's important for people to have an understanding of who they're electing.
00:05:33.000Because, on one hand, you've got someone who's talking about victims' rights and transparency and doing all these good things.
00:05:50.000And so I just feel that it's important for the people of District 4 in Kentucky to have an understanding of who they're electing.
00:05:57.000And if they choose that when they've got all the information, well, then they've made an informed decision.
00:06:01.000And my, you know, I've done what I can do.
00:06:06.000Now, since you've gone public with the original interview you conducted, Axios and Kentucky Public Radio have both reported that your ex account was reached out to in the form of a DM, a direct message from Congressman Massey in August of 2024.
00:06:24.000After the death of his wife, who he was married to for about 30 years, I want to fully understand your relationship with Thomas Massey from how it first began and exactly how it ended.
00:06:37.000So let's go through that timeline for viewers to understand how the contact was first initiated, whether you were pursuing him, whether he was pursuing you, and how this relationship transpired and ended.
00:06:51.000So, what was your first contact with Congressman Massey, and how and when did that happen?
00:06:57.000Well, I had at that point in time before Thomas had me delete my old account, which is fine.
00:07:05.000I had a fairly decent following of doing advocacy for MMTLP, which was a subject that you were familiar with.
00:07:12.000But my first encounter with him was not where, well, I may have messaged him about that, but really when we first started talking, it was something to do with like NATO.
00:07:22.000And I just had asked a question, just kind of a generic question, in a public facing conversation.
00:07:29.000And then He went and messaged me in my DMs and started liking all my posts.
00:07:38.000You say that Congressman Massey made you delete your Twitter account.
00:07:41.000When and why did he make you delete your Twitter account?
00:07:44.000Same kind of thing like what he did with his current wife, right?
00:07:47.000Where honestly, he didn't want any connection to the advocacy work that I was doing.
00:07:59.000He was actually just really controlling, to be honest.
00:08:04.000So, yeah, he just wanted me to make sure that I wasn't going to be using social media, really.
00:09:12.000So quickly, and there was so much pressure to do and be, you know, what he wanted me to do and be.
00:09:19.000Now, you said that he reached out to you first in the form of a DM about a week before you met him in person in Florida on August 30th, 2024.
00:09:36.000If you can recall, I know you said you don't have the original account anymore, but how did he find your account and why did he reach out to you?
00:09:46.000Well, he, I mean, he was pursuing a relationship, is the impression that I got.
00:09:53.000I mean, I knew that I was not the first.
00:09:56.000So, the first woman you're saying, when you say you're not the first, can you expand on that?
00:10:44.000Pretty fast because we're talking August 30th, and you said that he reached out to you a week before then, right?
00:10:50.000So that would have been the third week of August, and his wife had only died a month and a half prior to that.
00:10:56.000And so, how soon, how many women are we talking about that you at least know about that he had sexual relationships with in the immediate aftermath of his wife dying?
00:11:08.000Before you began your relationship two months after?
00:11:11.000He didn't have an intimate relationship with the person that he had met from X on.
00:12:20.000She was campaigning with him all weekend.
00:12:23.000And so when you were dating Congressman Massey, how did this come up?
00:12:28.000I mean, did you ask him about his previous sexual partners or was he bragging about it?
00:12:32.000Like, how did he end up telling you that he had sexual relations with Lauren Boebert?
00:12:39.000Honestly, it was kind of braggy, but hey, see, Thomas is just, it's hard to explain.
00:12:46.000Like, he, I mean, I think we'll get into it more when we start talking about some of the things that made me feel a little bit uncomfortable, but I just, I feel like, you know, there's almost a tact that you would have when you're in a relationship with the person that you're with that was just kind of lacking there.
00:13:08.000So, there were many situations where I felt uncomfortable.
00:13:48.000I don't know exactly because you would have to go and I'm sorry, my nose is itchy.
00:13:52.000You would have to go and look because I know she left abruptly to go to her son's court hearing.
00:13:58.000And so I'm sure somebody could do some digging and try and calculate, but it's not something that I've really ever cared too much to look into.
00:14:15.000Interesting, I mean, that was not the impression I got.
00:14:17.000I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, make a judgment based on the well, no, I think it's important for people to know these things because you have Congresswoman Boebert campaigning for Thomas Massey, and now people understand that it's not just because she believes in his policies, but she apparently has had a sexual relationship with him allegedly.
00:14:36.000You're saying that he told you this while you were dating, that's what he told me, yeah, that's what he told you, yeah.
00:14:42.000I mean, I wasn't there, but that's what he told me.
00:14:47.000Is this the, in your sense, the first time that you think Massey had ever reached out to women over X to possibly begin a relationship?
00:14:56.000Or do you think that this is something he engaged in while he was married as well?
00:15:02.000Did you ever get the sense that he was, you know, new to dating and speaking to women?
00:15:07.000Or do you think that he had been having relationships with women while he was married and his wife was ill?
00:15:16.000You know, that's a question that I've gotten from a lot of people because that's an assumption.
00:15:21.000And to be fair, I didn't have any indication whatsoever that there was anything going on other than talk of fantasy about another woman in their bedroom or with their relationship or outside of their marriage, anything like that.
00:15:40.000So you dated, it's fair to say, for about five months, correct?
00:15:46.000And you said that it moved pretty fast.
00:15:48.000You described it yourself as an unhealthy codependent relationship.
00:15:52.000You said that you had just become legally separated.
00:15:55.000His wife had obviously just passed away two months prior to you meeting him.
00:16:00.000But it sounds like you said it yourself the relationship moved quite fast.
00:16:06.000Can you explain to the viewers what you mean by the relationship moving fast?
00:16:12.000And just if you can go into detail, if you feel comfortable doing so, explain did he ever say he wanted to marry you, have a family with you?
00:16:23.000Did you ever live in his residence in Kentucky?
00:16:26.000Because some people have different interpretations of what it means to go fast in a relationship.
00:16:32.000And I want to make sure that you're understood and heard and listened to in the fullest capacity.
00:16:39.000Well, I mean, from the time we started talking, we started talking nonstop, whether it was text or phone.
00:16:47.000And he came down to Florida within a week.
00:18:02.000When you say you were love bombed, can you give us some examples?
00:18:06.000Well, I mean, just, you know, the always, you know, going out to eat in all these nice places, going to, I mean, South Africa was totally like an experience in itself.
00:18:21.000You know, and he was very, very flattering.
00:18:27.000And it was really interesting because, you know, there's this very kind side to him.
00:18:32.000And then there was the side where it was like really abruptly angry.
00:18:38.000And he would always just say, you know, like he needed his medical margaritas.
00:18:42.000And it's so funny because all the things that I was, you know, my red flags that I wouldn't date someone who was like certain things or certain ways, I just discounted them all.
00:18:54.000And so it just, it was kind of like it started to become like walking on eggshells.
00:18:59.000But I wanted the relationship so bad, which is, I was so unhealthy and it just got so much worse.
00:20:12.000But then, so like, whenever I did anything that Thomas was unhappy about, he'd be like, well, I talked to Chris and we both agree.
00:20:20.000And I mean, even about like very, Very personal, intimate things like that I felt uncomfortable with, and be like, Well, I talked to Chris.
00:20:27.000And yeah, can you give us some examples?
00:20:30.000Um, well, I mean, I was a very selfish person because I didn't want to, um, you know, Thomas.
00:20:46.000He, I know you, you put that post out about the hand jobs, and people are like, What's so bad about that?
00:20:55.000I mean, I know that, you know, you may engage in one thing like with him and his wife.
00:20:59.000They may have engaged in behavior, but if somebody else doesn't feel comfortable with it, I mean, the idea of he had to talk out fantasies, right?
00:21:10.000Of being with other women or other, you know, like other people and like people that he knows.
00:21:22.000For those who don't know what Cynthia is referring to, I put out a post the other day.
00:21:27.000Because obviously, I've been speaking to multiple people, and one of the women who was intimately involved with Congressman Massey told me that one of the sexual dysfunctions in the relationship is that he could only get off sexually if he was getting a hand job, which is interesting.
00:21:48.000And so I find it to be quite well, not just graphic, but also, you know, these are details that people, you know, have about their relationships.
00:21:58.000And when they start to be corroborated by other women who have also been involved with the congressman, there's a pattern, right?
00:22:04.000And that's when you build credibility in the sense that, you know, multiple women have the same experiences.
00:22:12.000Then I think that we call that pattern recognition.
00:22:16.000And it makes the claims, especially the claims that you have alleged with your relationship and your time with Congressman Massey, a lot more believable.
00:22:25.000Well, and it was just so demeaning, right?
00:22:28.000Because You're with this person that you feel like you've fallen in love with and you want to be with them.
00:22:35.000And he said, Oh, no, it doesn't mean that I'm not with you because I'm thinking about it like the mental gymnastics.
00:23:40.000And I'm sitting there like, they can't consent to this.
00:23:43.000And I know they're not actually there, but how do you.
00:23:47.000When you say there's a young girl, if you feel comfortable doing so, can you explain what he wanted in this fantasy when you were with him in South Africa, just so people can understand what he's talking about?
00:24:25.000And, um, so basically acting out pornographic, yeah, yeah, like, like talking, literally talking him off.
00:24:33.000And, and when I said no, when I said no, I don't want to do this, then he would get mad and he would be like, You're selfish, you know, like, I take care of your needs.
00:24:42.000Why aren't you taking care of my needs?
00:24:44.000And I just, You know, and honestly, too, I just got myself in such a bad situation.
00:24:52.000Like, I was a messy person beforehand, and I was trying to find my faith.
00:24:59.000And then I started dating this man, and I just got myself in a world that I did not want to be in.
00:25:06.000But at the same time, like, I told him I would contemplate, contemplate.
00:25:11.000No, I told him I'd contemplate doing some of the things he was asking.
00:25:13.000And then I said, one time, I said, I'll contemplate, contemplate.
00:25:16.000And he's like, wait, you said you would contemplate.
00:25:20.000But, um, Like, I just figured maybe he would have a heart and he would let go and like understand that this is stuff that I really didn't want to engage in.
00:25:30.000But it instead of like him backing down, like I was hoping he would back down, it kept amping up.
00:25:38.000And is that I just want to be clear because you had said in your deposition that you felt uncomfortable when he, quote, asked you to engage in behavior that you were not comfortable with, end quote.
00:25:49.000And so, just for clarification, so we're all on the same page here, that is.
00:25:53.000The behavior that you're referencing that made you feel uncomfortable trying to act out pornographic scenes and describe, yeah, having sex with other women while he was being intimate with you.
00:26:05.000Yeah, I didn't know that was he having not to be too graphic.
00:26:08.000If you don't want to answer this, you don't need to, but was he having sex with you when he asked you to act this out, or because you know, we now know that he's a handjob guy?
00:26:18.000And I don't want to be graphic, but I know I feel it kind of, it kind of, if you don't want to answer, you don't have to answer, but you know, it kind of almost sounds like.
00:26:29.000I mean, I don't know if the congressman watches porn, but the stuff that you're describing, it sounds like the congressman was trying to force you to act out pornographic scenes, right?
00:26:40.000Like trying to recite pornographic scenarios or almost like scripts, right?
00:26:46.000Pornographic scripts that you would see if you were to watch pornography.
00:28:16.000What was his reaction when you told him the relationship was over?
00:28:20.000You described in your deposition that he became very hostile towards you when you told him no, when you set these boundaries, when you refused to consent to these very sexually graphic and demeaning demands that he was making of you in your relationship.
00:28:36.000So, can you explain to the viewers how he reacted?
00:28:42.000Well, it was the first week that I went to DC.
00:28:48.000And no, I was really scared to have to quit my job.
00:28:57.000And I think that I started sacrificing so much to be in the relationship that once you start giving and modifying your life, then you're like, okay, I've already made an investment.
00:29:48.000You can't serve two masters, and all you have to do is Google Victoria Sparts and you can see her staff history, right?
00:29:55.000And so, you know, he had this idea that the job would be so easy and that I would be able just to make sure his needs were met.
00:30:04.000Well, you know, he's getting off earlier than me, and I've got work that I've got to take home with me, and he's got these needs, and it just he was so angry.
00:30:13.000And, um, and then you know, when I was done with work, then I have to, you know, do all the things, and so.
00:30:23.000I remember it was, and I had a UTI that week.
00:31:17.000And so, you know, I remember doing the actions and just praying to God, just like, get me out of this situation that I have gotten myself in, that it's just way out of control.
00:31:33.000And I left my job and I'm like in this awful, awful situation.
00:31:38.000And so, you know, the next day, so then I don't know if it was Thursday or Friday, but the next day was travel day, right?
00:32:31.000I know that sounds really weird, like I so loved this man, and I felt I was deficient that I couldn't provide for his needs, and and so um.
00:32:43.000I broke up with him on the car ride, but mind you, like this is our birthday weekend.
00:32:47.000So my birthday is the 11th, his birthday is the 13th.
00:32:51.000And he's got some plans that I'm concerned about because I think he's got something planned that I'm not very comfortable with.
00:32:58.000With a couple, and then I'm very uncomfortable with what I think he had planned.
00:33:08.000When you say he had plans, if you don't mind getting into it, to meet up with a couple and just I kind of had it, it was one of those couples from the story.
00:33:17.000One of his stories, and I just had because there was so much pressure, and I didn't know if, like, if he had anything planned or what his idea was.
00:33:28.000But, um, I didn't know, and I knew that I only had so much time.
00:33:35.000So, he also wanted you to recite stories about other married couples, not just women, yeah, but actual.
00:33:42.000Like, he wanted to be sexually get off on you telling him stories about him.
00:33:50.000Having, yeah, well, and this is married couples, and this is a couple that we were going to be meeting, right?
00:33:56.000And so, um, I just it was so bad, but at the same time, like, I thought I was deficient.
00:34:04.000I mean, and I thought that for a long time too, after even we broke up, like, I loved that man so much.
00:34:10.000And, um, so, so we're driving back, um, and usually if you leave earlier, you can make it from DC to Kentucky in one day, but because we left later, because my work stuff.
00:34:24.000No, we stopped at a hotel and he drinks a lot.
00:34:28.000So we went to the gas station that was by the hotel.
00:34:33.000And I was like, I'm buying the alcohol this time because he was usually going to buy it.
00:34:39.000And I drank way too much when I was in that relationship.
00:34:44.000I really don't drink very much at all.
00:34:46.000But I was like, we're full sending it tonight.
00:35:20.000And so he got, I mean, that's really when things really shifted for their relationship.
00:35:23.000But I'm just, I'm using that as an example because I'm trying to convey something.
00:35:31.000You know, when I say, like, because people ask me, like, I don't like trying to categorize my experiences as far as how he treated me, right?
00:35:49.000Like, because I don't even want to be a victim.
00:36:43.000And so while you were having sex with him, he said that he wanted to wreck you physically so that you were, I guess, what were the words you used?
00:37:37.000I actually, I'm trying to, I wore it because I haven't worn it, but I wore it for the, um, The other interview because I'm kind of trying to like slip it and feel empowered about this because I have kind of reclaimed my strength, which is also another reason why I'm like, I never would have been able to speak out publicly about this.
00:37:56.000I was so, so broken, like, so broken for quite a while after that.
00:38:01.000And like I said, I still love this guy, but man, it was bad.
00:38:09.000What's the significance of that ring you're wearing?
00:39:23.000And particularly men, I've heard like they just can't be alone, but at the same time, like so.
00:39:29.000Then, and this is where it starts getting really unhealthy because my background is in mental health, right?
00:39:34.000And so, um, like he's going through grief, we are literally walking through grief, but at the same time, like becoming so attached.
00:39:45.000Um, yeah, you said his wife had an autoimmune disorder.
00:39:51.000What kind of autoimmune disorder did she have?
00:39:53.000I can't remember, I just remember it was autoimmune.
00:39:57.000Sounds like he's a very sexually demanding person, though, from what you've described.
00:40:01.000I mean, I could imagine that that would be very difficult for somebody with an autoimmune condition to keep up with all of those sexual demands.
00:41:01.000This quick after his wife had passed away, like how, what was the reaction from his children and what was the reaction from your family?
00:41:09.000Um, well, I think it was harder on his youngest, um, but they, I mean, they were fairly welcoming, um, and um, my family, shoot, like he was very charismatic, and and I remember we went on, we had this family Zoom, and he was on there, who's basically, you know.
00:41:35.000Trying to assure them that, you know, hey, it's good that she moves with me and it's all going to be okay.
00:41:41.000And so everybody kind of thought like this was a fairy tale in a way, is what my family, they were like, oh, you know, this is so good off of, you know, the back of having such a, you know, catastrophic experience with the ending of my marriage.
00:44:08.000I'm so glad that we moved on from that other topic because I'm feeling much better now.
00:44:12.000Okay, so um, when um, when I started dating Thomas, my ex got very jealous, right?
00:44:21.000And so that's where that injunction piece comes into play.
00:44:25.000Where my ex started like tweeting on Thomas's stuff and just really intensifying behavior that was concerning.
00:44:35.000And we don't need to go into a huge amount of details on that, except for the fact that Thomas came out first and they had my injunction.
00:44:45.000And they had so, an injunction is like almost like a temporary restraining order type thing.
00:44:52.000So you go in and you get the initial one that you get.
00:44:55.000But then you have to go in to get like a follow up.
00:44:59.000My lawyer in the contract, my divorce attorney, he doesn't do injunctions and his lawyer does.
00:45:06.000And so you had Anna come out and say that because I had said that Thomas was trying to silence me with $5,000 and she was trying to say it was about the attorney.
00:45:17.000Well, there was a time where I was trying to find an attorney for that injunction.
00:45:23.000It would have been $3,000, but I couldn't get them in time.
00:45:26.000So essentially, I go and I represent myself in that case.
00:45:54.000But it was really interesting because, you know, they tried to discredit me to say that, look, she's a liar because.
00:46:02.000She was saying there was an issue here and she didn't get the injunction.
00:46:05.000And so that was really easy to show that that was false based on contact that he had had with my ex's commander.
00:46:14.000And then, as far as receiving any money for a lawyer, I didn't at that point in time.
00:46:19.000So to say that he gave me money for a lawyer, that's not accurate.
00:46:24.000And so it's really interesting because I know the story, right?
00:46:27.000Because it's what was lived experiences.
00:46:30.000And so I'm trying to, it's like they're trying to create these webs.
00:46:35.000And then the next one was so when I didn't want to leave my job because I was, I'm a single mom and I'm like, I don't want to quit my job because how am I going to provide for my family?
00:47:22.000So this is not the $5,000, just so we're clear.
00:47:24.000So he offered when you were dealing with the legal fees and you were going through your separation from your husband, he gave you an envelope that had $10,000.
00:48:34.000And so after I got, I mean, I don't know if you want to go to that point.
00:48:40.000But just to clarify, so when I got fired and he didn't want me to pursue any legal action against Victoria, that's when he offered me the $5,000.
00:48:52.000So those are the different pools of money that I think people are conflating.
00:48:57.000And it's confusing, but it's not, if that makes sense.
00:49:04.000Yeah, that helps clear up a lot because I saw some people online attacking you over the different financial amounts.
00:49:13.000How did your employment officially end with Congresswoman Barts?
00:49:17.000And additionally, after you get done explaining how your employment ended, when did you first consider filing a complaint with the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights?
00:49:29.000And what exactly was in your complaint?
00:49:38.000Like these people and the whole, like, oh, we want justice for Epstein victims.
00:49:43.000And then the hate that I've received, like, you can't make this stuff up.
00:49:47.000But, um, What I learned and why I haven't been dropping a whole bunch of receipts is because I talked to my legal team from the house and I found out.
00:49:57.000I thought when I did this video, like I literally was like, I am walking away from $60,000 and basically putting my head on the chopping block for the whole world, right?
00:51:17.000Like, so when you start seeing, like, okay, so, so, no, I had my experience, and, and I probably would have sat with that because I have a lot of guilt and shame, and people are like, why was she still talking to him?
00:51:30.000I'm like, my head was not in a good space for quite, quite a while after that.
00:51:35.000But for me, like, I love my country so much that I am willing to literally, I mean, like, I am being character assassinated as we speak, right?
00:51:51.000Like, I am coming out recognizing, and we have a problem, right?
00:51:55.000We talk about wanting to give voices to the victims of the sexual harassment fund and all of that.
00:52:03.000Like, why would anybody come out and speak?
00:52:07.000About what powerful people are doing to them when you see what happens to the people that do that.
00:52:12.000Because you've got this idea that if somebody comes out and they're a victim, that we're still like good and evil, black and white.
00:52:21.000Like life is messy and people are going to have past and people are going to be messy.
00:52:26.000And if people see something and they're like, oh my gosh, look, she failed her injunction, or oh my gosh, look, she's got this post or that post, like they literally will try and delve through to find any reason to discredit you or dismiss your.
00:52:43.000And so we've got a real issue with that.
00:52:44.000And so I knew that was going to happen.
00:52:46.000I didn't want to come out and do this.
00:52:48.000But at the same time, I love my country and I saw what was happening with like Joe Chiani, right?
00:52:55.000So for context, this is what I found because when I had stuff happen to me, I had some people coming to me and I knew because he had talked to me about kind of his Iranian connections.
00:53:06.000So Joe Chiani, and this is my understanding from what I've read, and I think you've verified it.
00:53:12.000So after the October 7th attacks in Israel, You had peace talks that were going on between Palestine and Israel, and they were progressing.
00:53:25.000But then you've got this Iranian born American, Joe Chiani, who has deep ties to Democrat fundraising and a positive relationship with then President Biden.
00:53:38.000In fact, he had appointed him to some sort of scientific advisory board.
00:53:42.000And Joe Biden even vacationed at his home for a week.
00:53:46.000Yeah, well, and that's where the talks sizzled out.
00:53:48.000So they were progressing until Joe Biden goes and Stays there.
00:53:52.000And when that happens, it all fizzles out, right?
00:53:58.000And this is one of Thomas's big donors, per my understanding, and it seems to be verified.
00:54:03.000I mean, I want to make sure that I'm talking carefully because I don't want to slander anyone, but per what I've seen for FEC reports and everything, he's at this fundraising event, and it appears that he is receiving money from these pro Palestinian.
00:54:21.000Folks, and then also tweeting while he's there saying, Hey, we need to remove all aid and assistance to Israel.
00:54:28.000And so that doesn't look like someone who's American first and like isolationist.
00:54:33.000Like, you can't be like, oh, I don't want people getting money from AIPAC.
00:54:36.000Well, at the same time, you're taking money from the other side.
00:54:38.000Like, you need to be principled, right?
00:54:42.000And just so the viewers are aware, I did review, Lumor Unleashed did review the FEC records, and we did find that Joe Chiani has contributed to Thomas Massey.
00:55:04.000He appears to be Muslim from his social media activity.
00:55:07.000He did contribute contributions to Thomas Massey and he has given millions of dollars to Democrat candidates and Democrat causes, including Joe Biden.
00:55:18.000And then there were some other family ties too, but it's kind of like, okay, when you know all of that's going on, and then I have my experience, it's like you want to get it out there.
00:55:29.000And so, you know, when I first got, Well, he's also hypocritical, too.
00:55:36.000Thomas Massey loves to bash Jews in Israel as a side note here.
00:55:41.000But what's really interesting is that if you look at the PACs that are supporting his campaign, one of the largest donors to this PAC that he's benefiting from is a man by the name of Jeffrey Ass, who is the richest man in Pennsylvania, and he is Jewish.
00:55:56.000And he's one of the largest shareholders in TikTok, right?
00:55:59.000So you have the China connection as well, another form of hypocrisy.
00:56:03.000The biggest form of hypocrisy is that Jeffrey Yass himself donates a lot of money to pro Israel Zionist Jewish causes.
00:56:11.000So you can see online that Jeffrey Yass has contributed to pro Israel causes, Jewish causes.
00:56:17.000And Thomas Massey is one of the biggest benefactors of Jeffrey Yass's contributions through this PAC.
00:56:23.000And yet, Thomas Massey is talking about how Israel and Israeli donors and people that donate to Israel have too much influence in our elections.
00:56:32.000But he's more than happy to take money from people like Jeff Yass.
00:56:36.000But I mean, if we're going to go on about hypocrisy too, I mean, one of his main talking points and subject matters that he likes to focus on is the national debt.
00:56:48.000And don't get me wrong, we have a problem with our national debt.
00:57:21.000But it appears that on Thomas Massey's FEC records, there's a lot of kind of, I guess you could say, inappropriate spending, a lot of inappropriate expenditures.
00:57:31.000This is a guy that likes to talk about, as you said, the national debt, and he likes to wear a clock and he gives out clocks like national debt clocks.
00:58:23.000I mean, I don't know if he told you he was spending campaign funds or whether he was using his personal credit card when he took you to South Africa.
00:58:31.000But I think that we can, and I'm not blaming you for this, but you're responsible for your actions.
00:58:37.000But I think we can all agree that if a member of Congress is taking their love interest, I mean, for a spouse, I think that you have, I think it's different in the sense that there's accommodations for actual congressional spouses.
00:58:52.000Sometimes when they are invited on these trips, there's certain trips.
00:58:55.000Where you have spouses that are invited.
00:58:58.000Those are more like the annual meetings for the GOP where they allow for the spouses to come.
00:59:04.000I don't really think that includes the international travel.
00:59:07.000Yeah, my ticket was not paid for by campaign funds, but I hear what you're saying because I was really weirded out by this whole idea of like anytime.
00:59:17.000So, for instance, like he had some friends in Pensacola, and if he came to visit, he would just be like, oh, well, we could just talk about doing a possible.
00:59:27.000Fundraiser in the future, and then we can just use campaign funds.
00:59:30.000And that was one of the things that really bothered me is because you see these members of Congress, and it's kind of what they do they wine and dine off of their campaign funds, and it just seems wrong to me.
00:59:43.000Did you see that happen a lot when you were dating uh Congressman Massey?
00:59:51.000Oh, like that was one of the prominent ones, right?
00:59:53.000Like, so coming down to see your friends and tie, I mean, he did mind you, he did do a fundraiser eventually, but they just kind of laugh about it, like it.
01:00:01.000It's just kind of like the known thing that you do.
01:00:14.000And I know that not everybody's like that, but it didn't sit well with me.
01:00:20.000Now, in response to your allegations about your employment and your employment termination, Congresswoman Sparks' office released the following statement.
01:00:27.000She said, quote, Sparks' office cannot comment on the details of Ms. West.
01:00:33.000Pending allegations, but we can confirm that Ms. West held a temporary 90 day probationary position with our office and her employment was not extended beyond that period due to unsatisfactory job performance.
01:00:48.000What's your reaction to Sparta's statement?
01:00:52.000And do you have any receipts that show that this was not, in fact, a 90 day probationary period, but in fact, an employment?
01:01:01.000You can look up, there's an Adam Wren article about how she had to shift to all of her employees.
01:01:07.000Going to the 90 day employment because people leave so much that she was trying to make it look better because of her like turnover rate.
01:01:18.000Why do people leave so much working for Congresswoman Sparts?
01:01:21.000Can you, can you, uh, well, I mean, you just Google Sparts staff abuse and you'll see all the things.
01:01:27.000Like, she, I mean, I sat there and watched her tell my co worker exactly what to do, and I watched my co worker follow through and do exactly what she was told to do.
01:01:39.000But in that period of time, Victoria Spartz had changed her mind about what she was supposed to do.
01:02:15.000But the thing of it was, it's funny because she's like, you know, she's only a 90 day employee.
01:02:19.000So, you can look up the article that talks about that.
01:02:22.000And of course, she can't talk about it because I found out, like I said, that we, I mean, even though the talks fizzled out, we are still in litigation.
01:02:31.000And so, if she talks about it, then she violates her confidentiality, like her, what do you call it?
01:03:25.000So, OHEC is the legal team that represents the member.
01:03:28.000And so, because she was afraid that this staffer was going to sue her.
01:03:32.000And so, I was working with them because we were worried about her returning her computer and all these other things.
01:03:41.000And in that, I was talking to these people, the OHEC people, and I was like, hey, look, I know she left and it was super fiery, but if she talks about the toxic nature of this, This work environment, it's probably true.
01:03:59.000And I just spelled out a whole bunch of stuff that was happening.
01:04:03.000And so the OHEC, they ended up having to recuse themselves and not represent her.
01:04:07.000I don't know if it was because of that conversation.
01:04:10.000So, but she has, so she had to get like an outside counsel.
01:04:14.000So when she came back and she said that she was only settling, like I feel good about clarifying this, she was only settling because she wanted to save the taxpayers' money.
01:04:26.000She, her office is allotted a certain amount of funds.
01:04:30.000Um, for the legal, and she was running out, and then she was gonna have to start paying for it from her own money, not the taxpayer, right?
01:04:37.000So that was problematic for her in the negotiations.
01:04:41.000I really felt strongly, I hate the idea of the treasury paying out, like it is so wrong for the taxpayer to have to pay for these indiscretions and then just have the person who is, um, you know, a victim of whatever Congressional Accountability Act have to be basically gagged to not say anything, and the taxpayer has no idea what happened.
01:05:01.000And so, I wanted her to have to be able to pay for it out of her own pocket.
01:06:09.000I mean, look, I think that Nancy Mace is probably the most credible of them all in the sense that she was not campaigning.
01:06:15.000You didn't see Ana Paulina Luna campaigning with Massey either.
01:06:19.000And I think that Congresswoman Mace walks the walk and talks the talk when it comes to standing up for women.
01:06:25.000I don't know if you've reached out to her, but I could imagine that you probably would find an audience with her if you were to speak with her.
01:06:32.000I mean, I know she takes these matters pretty seriously, but it is kind of funny that Lauren Boebert posed for photos with Congresswoman Mace and Anna Paulina Luna on the front page of the New York Times recently.
01:06:52.000In a spread about how, oh, meet the women in Congress that are taking on the Congressional Slush Fund and demanding transparency as it pertains to members sexually harassing people or having to make these settlements with women.
01:07:10.000She doesn't really want to live by her words.
01:07:14.000Well, and you look at that, like, because Thomas and Victoria, I believe, and that would need to be verified too, but I believe they signed on to it.
01:07:35.000So you've got this hush fund money, it only exists for a Congressional Accountability Act violation.
01:07:44.000So that would be like sexual harassment, it would be like discriminating against for religious reasons, it would be somebody's sexual identity, those sorts of things.
01:07:55.000There's particular issues that it covers.
01:07:58.000But why would we only want to know for the sexual harassment piece?
01:08:02.000I think the taxpayer has a right to know about all of it.
01:08:06.000But the other part of it is in order to go to the point where the treasury is even willing to pay out, because how irresponsible would it be to the taxpayer if anybody who said, oh, something happened to me, we were just throwing money from the treasury?
01:08:28.000Guess well, whose claim had merit to get to that point to even be able to settle?
01:08:32.000So they try and minimize my experience.
01:08:35.000And it's really, I mean, whether that be the injunction and coming back and being able to show that, or with the claims against my work environment in the 90 day stuff, like it's just trying to cover their tracks.
01:08:48.000And it's really kind of intriguing to watch.
01:08:50.000And now I'm so grateful to find out that my legal opportunities have not come to an end because I really do feel like there needs to be some vindication.
01:09:00.000For that, because what she does as an employer is wrong.
01:09:06.000And, you know, everyone's like, oh, why'd you come out a week before?
01:09:09.000Well, first of all, I tried to go out to talk to all these different offices and get help.
01:09:14.000I tried to talk to, you know, Randy Fine even said that I came to him a year ago.
01:09:19.000Yeah, I just will say for the viewers, your social media posts online show that you tried reaching out to multiple representatives and you also engaged Congressman Massey publicly for the last two and a half years.
01:09:32.000And so, Or for the last two years or so, I would say because there were tweets that you had.
01:09:39.000So there were tweets from 2024 as well.
01:09:41.000So from 2024 now till about 2026, it shows that you were engaging with Massey online in various comments.
01:09:51.000You know, it appears that you guys had, even if you weren't like physically involved in a relationship, that you had replied to some of his posts online in between that time.
01:09:59.000So my point is that the records and the receipts show that you did try, and I have confirmed this with Congressman Fine as well, you did approach him.
01:10:08.000You are running for a school board position right now in the state of Florida.
01:10:11.000And last year, you attended the Florida Freedom Forum in Florida, where you approached Congressman Fine and you brought these allegations to him.
01:10:19.000And you also said that you thought that Congressman Massey was taking money from Iranians.
01:10:26.000So I do want to say that I independently confirmed all of that.
01:10:30.000Based on what you've witnessed, though, Ms. West, do you believe that Massey or Sparks's conduct should be investigated by the House Ethics Committee?
01:10:41.000Would you be willing to provide a copy of the report that you filed?
01:10:46.000And would you be willing to testify to the House Ethics Committee behind closed doors?
01:10:51.000Well, I went and talked to the House Ethics Committee.
01:11:46.000Let's say a staffer just finds that somebody's taking money from China or something like that.
01:11:52.000If it doesn't fall under the Congressional Accountability Act and they raised concerns and they were fired for those concerns, there's no whistleblower protection.
01:12:00.000And then so you go to the Ethics Committee and kind of like if you look at Victoria Sparts, for instance.
01:12:07.000So not this last primary that she had, but before that.
01:12:11.000So there was an ethics complaint that was open on her for staff abuse, like for staff.
01:12:21.000And so they decided to close it because they didn't want it to look like they were, you know, trying to influence any elections.
01:12:29.000And so my colleagues and I, you know, we're all pouring into ethics and other offices trying to get help for what's going on.
01:12:41.000And we're like sitting there waiting, trying to see if they, you know, first the new Congress, like the 119th, you know, you have the minority switch to the majority.
01:12:51.000So we were waiting, like, okay, when are they going to open back up an investigation and when are they going to take care of this?
01:13:01.000And the idea that they police their own is absolutely freaking ridiculous.
01:13:06.000The whole thing needs to just be revamped.
01:13:08.000I would love to have a seat at that table.
01:13:12.000And before we move on to the next section of this interview, just to be clear, because there have been accusations that you just want money.
01:13:20.000You have not taken, you gave him back the $10,000.
01:13:25.000That you described as cow money, cash, that he did not report to the IRS.
01:13:30.000Now, to be fair, if you had taken the money, which you did not take the money, I don't believe that it would need to be reported to the IRS if it was personal money and it was not campaign funds, because that would be underneath the IRS limit of, I believe, $19,000 per year of gifts to an individual.
01:13:48.000So I saw some discussion online about, oh, does he need to report it to the IRS?
01:13:52.000If it was personal money and it was a gift, then no, it does not need to be.
01:14:19.000You can, I would love for you to explain how that money was offered and how you were first approached.
01:14:23.000Because the $10,000 was offered or given to you when you first started dating, or when you were dating in December, you gave it back to him in the parking lot of a Cracker Barrel.
01:14:48.000And so when I gave that back to him, it was like the weekend after Martin Luther King Day.
01:14:54.000So I gave that to him in the Cracker Barrel parking lot.
01:14:57.000And so when I lost my job, and mind you, I'd been talking to him about the dynamic because we were still talking all the time.
01:15:07.000Like I'm telling you, the struggle was real.
01:15:11.000So we were talking, and so I mean, I still thought I loved this man, and I still felt like there was something inadequate with me, and blah, blah, blah.
01:15:21.000I felt I owed him the courtesy to call him to let him know that I had engaged with ethics and I was looking at the legal stuff because I knew the way that I was let go was wrong, right?
01:15:35.000And mind you, this was February 14th, and she took away my access to the computer and everything.
01:15:43.000And just let the clock run out on the 90 days because it's all optics, right?
01:15:47.000I mean, it's the talking point she's using right now, which she's done with more than just me.
01:15:53.000So, when I called him, and I don't remember the exact day, but he, I know he had had food poisoning and we were talking.
01:16:01.000And I was like, you know, just out of courtesy, I wanted to let you know that I was pursuing this.
01:18:43.000I know I was talking to him, like, because I said we still talked, and he this is so weird, like, oh, so messed up.
01:18:51.000He would call me for love advice, right?
01:18:53.000So, he was dating, um, basically, he'd gotten in this next serious relationship, and he would give everyone like code names.
01:19:01.000So, I was Florida gal, or he'd call me moonshine.
01:19:04.000And, um, this next girl that he was dating, and she's from Kentucky, and my heart goes out to her because I mean, She probably got wrapped up in the relationship just like I did, and he said that she would do anything that he wanted her to.
01:19:18.000I asked him about the intimacy stuff, and he's like, She took to it like a duck to water.
01:19:24.000So he's like, She'll do anything I want, but then he met this new person who's his current wife, and so he was like, So he's calling me, but I thought that he the report said that he had known that woman before his wife had passed away because she was a staffer for Rand Paul, yeah, yeah, no, I think they had met, but no, so he's telling me that he's got so he's.
01:20:19.000Really, when I realized, when I like really fully understood how little I meant the entire time, was, you know, so my ex had, after all this stuff, he had lost his command because of what happened.
01:20:34.000That goes into the injunction stuff and all that.
01:20:36.000And they were trying to decide when he was retiring if he was going to retire at his rank that he was at or if they were going to take away a rank.
01:20:47.000And with military retirement, right, like when, so I mean, we were married for the full 20 years of the career.
01:20:53.000And so I would be entitled to half of that retirement, which is helpful for me to be able to raise my children with, right?
01:21:01.000And so, and mind you, Thomas knew at least my youngest, right?
01:21:05.000So he, mine, I think she was like six at the time, seven.
01:21:11.000And I'm like, hey, you know, and he had intervened, which I am now finding out, I'm finding out a lot of things that maybe that that was not appropriate at all, but he had helped me get that, the no contact order.
01:21:22.000But I thought, you know, Hey, they're undecided what they want to do.
01:21:27.000The disciplinary action is due to, you know, the interaction with Thomas.
01:21:32.000And I said, Well, you know, would you be willing to just call or maybe write a letter because this affects my ability to take care of my kids?
01:23:06.000I'm very sorry for that emotional abuse that he put you through.
01:23:12.000I want to ask you about his political philosophy and his political views.
01:23:19.000A lot of people, you talk about how dark it's been.
01:23:22.000I think a lot of people are starting to see a very dark side of Congressman Massey.
01:23:26.000They started to see it in the aftermath of his wife's death.
01:23:30.000I think that people, they say people grieve differently.
01:23:35.000But I know that a lot of people found it to be very bizarre that he started dating immediately after his wife passed away.
01:23:42.000And it's been the subject of a lot of commentary pertaining to how Massey conducts himself with women and also how he conducts himself politically.
01:23:55.000Congressman Massey's race is currently the most expensive House race primary in the country because he opposes President Trump and Thomas Massey's constituents overwhelmingly support the president.
01:24:07.000President Trump did very well in Kentucky.
01:24:10.000And now Congressman Massey is at odds.
01:24:14.000He's at odds with not just President Trump, but also the voters who he relies on to seek re election.
01:24:42.000I will take, I don't know if I should take credit for that, but I do think that I helped get him to the place where he was willing to endorse President Trump because I'm like, dude, we are going to run into an iceberg.
01:24:52.000Like, if you can help get the libertarian vote, we need every vote that we can get for this because we're going to run into an iceberg.
01:24:59.000So he went ahead, like, and he had a recording on his phone of, like, when President Trump, I mean, we have a very compassionate president, and he called Thomas when his wife passed away and he had it on recording and he had played it, and he was like, At that point in time, it was a very positive kind of relationship.
01:26:09.000You know, obviously he didn't like the big, beautiful bill and the spending stuff, but it goes deeper than that.
01:26:15.000And I think that it's like just kind of intrinsic fragility, honestly.
01:26:21.000Did he ever make derogatory comments, though, about President Trump or say that he hoped that he had been jailed?
01:26:26.000Because, you know, during the presidential primary, he had said that he thought that Donald Trump was going to go to jail and made the case and made the argument against President Trump being the nominee.
01:26:35.000Did you ever hear him make any comments that?
01:26:45.000When you were working for Congresswoman Spartz, who is a close ally of Vice President Mike Pence, and she's actually his Congressman, It's Congresswoman.
01:26:54.000Did she say anything derogatory or negative about President Trump behind closed doors?
01:27:00.000You know, honestly, when behind closed doors, it was mostly like, honestly, them trying to build a coup to oust the speaker.
01:27:07.000That was what a lot of their people were.
01:27:09.000So at this point, you're talking about Mike Johnson.
01:27:47.000Well, I mean, that's the thing, like, right, where you look at, and that was what frustrated me so much.
01:27:53.000And I think there was one of my old tweets where I said, you know, that I can think of 5,000 reasons to call you, and then the bull emoji and the poop emoji, and then the other one about I thought we were supposed to just walk away, we couldn't make a difference.
01:28:06.000And it's just, um, you know, he would use that.
01:28:09.000And and and mind you, like, I am, I personally am grateful for any information that we can get about the Epstein files.
01:28:16.000Like, you can do the right thing for the wrong reason.
01:28:35.000And so I think that drives him in a lot of ways.
01:28:38.000But I mean, is he more libertarian minded?
01:28:42.000But see, the problem with that is like, if you want to create change, in my opinion, like come to the table with solutions and negotiate towards those, right?
01:28:53.000Because if you're only going to just die on that hill and not get anything passed or do anything, you're being ineffective for your constituents.
01:29:05.000I've seen the need of his constituents.
01:29:07.000And what are you bringing back to them?
01:29:10.000So honestly, it's just kind of a failure of governance, in my opinion.
01:29:16.000Today, Congressman Randy Fine stated on X that Congressman Massey is, quote, 100% Nazi adjacent.
01:29:24.000I don't know if you've seen the videos, but he has decided to campaign not just with Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, who you say he said he had a sexual relationship with, but he's also campaigning with Congressman Warren Davidson, who just Recently, it was endorsed by President Trump.
01:29:38.000I find it interesting how all these people waited till after they had their elections and after President Trump endorsed them to come out and endorse Thomas Massey.
01:29:47.000Congresswoman Victoria Spartz was there as well.
01:29:50.000And at this campaign event, where they've been having their event with the so called Masseys, Nasties, as you call them, there's a guy by the name of Ryan Matta, who is a Thomas Massey supporter, and he appears to be a surrogate, not just a supporter.
01:30:08.000He showed up to the event wearing a shirt or sweater that said American Reich, and it had Nazi symbolism on it.
01:30:17.000And Congressman Massey took a photo with it.
01:30:20.000Now, When people made this photo go viral, a lot of Massey supporters said, Oh, that's just an AIPAC plant meant to make Thomas Massey look bad.
01:30:32.000This is just AIPAC and their dirty Jewish tricks, you know, their typical Jewish tricks.
01:30:37.000Well, today, Ryan Matta was actually spotted doing a live stream from Thomas Massey's home residence in Kentucky.
01:30:46.000So not only did he take a photo with the congressman in a Nazi sweatshirt, but he was invited to the congressman's home in Kentucky.
01:30:53.000And he was talking about how, you know, he was personally invited by the congressman.
01:31:00.000And while he was there in Kentucky wearing Nazi gear, he was standing inside Congressman Massey's Kentucky residence in front of his giant oven, talking to him about how big his oven was while he was openly glorifying Nazis.
01:31:15.000You know, I feel like people, I mean, it's just like cognitive dissonance, or I'm not even sure.
01:31:26.000They've got this idea that if they, you know, admire someone, that they're going to give them a pass for all things, right?
01:31:39.000And then if somebody comes against that person or speaks critically of that person, then obviously you're being funded by APAC.
01:31:49.000Or, I mean, I can't tell you the anti Semitic things that have been launched my way.
01:31:54.000And I honestly, I'm like, Okay, this is weird, but people are kind of, they need to check themselves because the hateful rhetoric and what we are very openly,
01:32:11.000not we as in us, but what people are very openly accepting, you know, you may not be the person who's necessarily wearing that sweatshirt, but if you're entertaining somebody who has those ideological beliefs, right, you're promoting that.
01:32:29.000And we really need to hold these people who we elect accountable for the people that they're engaging in.
01:32:36.000I mean, I'm really concerned about where we're going as a society.
01:32:45.000Does it surprise you, though, from your time dating Congressman Massey, that he's now campaigning with actual Nazis?
01:32:52.000Or did he ever express any anti Jewish sentiment or any anti Semitic views while you were dating him?
01:32:59.000You know, I think it's progressed significantly because.
01:33:03.000Um, you know, he would talk about APAC and mind you, you got to remember, like, and he warned me because he's like, Hey, Victoria Spartz takes money from APAC.
01:33:12.000Um, so you know, he aligns himself with people who do take money from APAC, but I think that you know, in the world of politics, money is power, right?
01:33:24.000And um, he started aligning himself with these, um, you know, pro Islam, um, radical Islamists, is what I will call or refer to them as.
01:33:35.000And he was getting a significant amount of money.
01:33:37.000And so, the more caustic his rhetoric, you know, he, I mean, we literally, if everything seems to check out, it looks as if, you know, he's at a campaign donation event and he's, you know, he's tweeting, we need to remove all aid and assistance to Israel.
01:34:01.000And the more caustic your rhetoric is, the more money you bring in.
01:34:06.000And are you, I mean, That's just, I mean, to sell your soul like that, that's wrong.
01:34:16.000I mean, and maybe I shouldn't say to sell your soul.
01:34:18.000Maybe that's inflammatory and I shouldn't say that, but it's just wrong.
01:34:24.000You seem to be very courteous and very cautious in your wording and also very conscientious of how your words impact others, even though Congressman Massey has deeply hurt you.
01:34:34.000And, you know, it sounds like you've really gone through the ringer emotionally over these last.
01:34:41.000Two years, especially over the last year since breaking up with the congressman.
01:34:47.000I want to understand the impact that this has had on you personally, especially in light of your recent deposition and the way that you've been viciously attacked by Congressman Massey and his supporters over the last couple days.
01:35:00.000Congressman Massey's campaign responded to your allegations saying, These last minute dirty tricks don't merit a response.
01:35:07.000The trashy lies they're putting out now demonstrate how desperate they are.
01:35:15.000Well, I mean, I look at how much that relationship cost me and what it was taking.
01:35:21.000Because I'm, I mean, at this point, I'm pulling out from my school board race because I've got people on my Facebook campaign page saying she's sleeping with 14 year old boys.
01:35:29.000And it's like, I, the impact that this had on not just me, but my family.
01:35:40.000I remember, and I'm so grateful to be past this phase where I would just wake up in the middle of the night with panic attacks.
01:35:49.000And in just throughout the day, and just have the most doom feeling constantly.
01:35:57.000I remember, and my background is in mental health, so I've worked with people in dark places, but I remember just always having just this anxiety and fear about what was going to happen, how it was going to happen.
01:36:14.000And the shame and guilt that I had for myself because I wasn't able to.
01:36:21.000Um, be enough for that relationship, and you know, I remembered at one point in time I was just driving over a bridge, and I was thinking, you know, people just jump and then it's done.
01:36:34.000And I mean, I didn't have a plan or an intent, but that thought the fact that I went there in my head, I had that thought in my head like that was a defining moment for me.
01:36:47.000And I reflect on that, and I am grateful in one way because.
01:37:01.000I still, but, but what that did for me to have to lean on God because there is no way that I was going to be able to get through that situation when I had lost so much.
01:37:14.000What, what He did to me, but also what Victoria did.
01:37:18.000And so when I saw that she had won the primary, and I'm sitting there thinking, if I'm quiet, if I take this money, you know, There's more people like me who could be hurt.
01:37:29.000Like, I remember crying with my coworker who also got canned at the same time as me.
01:40:46.000That was the weird thing, too, though.
01:40:48.000Like, okay, so you've got his burner phone and then you've got the other phone.
01:40:51.000But I think I was telling you about how, like, so my cell phone now is an iPhone.
01:40:58.000And so his burner phone was an Android and then his normal phone was an iPhone.
01:41:04.000And it was weird because all of the pictures on the Android, which was the burner on this phone, my phone that I use now that's connected to data, it was like all those pictures when I was going through them one day.
01:41:16.000Looking through and screenshotting, they were there.
01:41:18.000And now, like, I don't know what happened, but they're all gone.
01:41:21.000But I have my old phone that I have, I'm not going to connect it to dad or anything.
01:41:25.000Like, maybe it sounds paranoid, but like, all the pictures went away.
01:41:34.000Like, that's why I don't know why they would want to even, um, they're being sloppy.
01:41:41.000Like, even the thing with the injunction, it's just sloppy.
01:41:45.000Like, you would expect more from members of Congress, like up your game or something.
01:41:49.000But like, I'm like, I've got so much, and my legal team has so much stuff, and ethics has so much stuff because with Victoria, I created a File.
01:43:21.000And she was just raked through the coals.
01:43:23.000So anytime that someone comes out and there's a power dynamic, it's going to be very difficult for someone to come forward.
01:43:32.000But then when you start introducing, Social media and people wanting to discredit you, and people that are going to dig into every facet of your life to discredit you.
01:43:47.000I knew what the stakes were when I came out, but I also felt that it was too important not to for the sake of my country.
01:43:54.000To the fact where I was like, I have to let go of the things that really meant a lot to me.
01:43:59.000This school board race, I really wanted to make a difference in my community.
01:44:03.000Like, I really would have been good at that.
01:44:07.000And, but at the same time, I'm like, no, I have to sacrifice that and in my own way sacrifice myself because it's literally what you're doing.
01:44:17.000So we're telling women, I mean, men and women, but we'll just talk about women.
01:44:22.000We're telling women that if they come forward, that they are going to be, I mean, they're going to be called sluts.
01:44:29.000They're going to be, they're going to be said to be making things up, all the different things.
01:44:34.000So I don't know, like, if I would, I would recommend that to anybody moving forward.
01:44:54.000And I think social media makes it way worse because people are losing their empathy.
01:45:00.000They're just so quick to want to destroy another human.
01:45:02.000And I made a post, I think I pinned it to the top, where I liken social media to like the modern day guillotine.
01:45:09.000And we're all in this town hall, and it's like we're there for entertainment value with these baskets to try and catch a head as it rolls.
01:45:17.000And we don't care if someone is guilty or innocent, but we're going to get our dopamine rush off of crushing another soul.
01:45:25.000And that was the kind of thing that I was talking about in my school board race because I was talking about bullying, particularly like cyberbullying and what our kids have to go through.
01:45:33.000And you look at what we do as adults to other humans and you're like, wow, humanity has a big problem.
01:45:56.000Now, any viewer watching this, especially this close to the election, given that the election is on Tuesday of this week, they're going to ask why now and whether politics played any role.
01:46:09.000Are you in coordination with or in contact with any of Thomas Massey's opponents, or are you in contact with the Trump administration?
01:46:19.000And are you in any kind of talk or agreement with anybody to inflict harm on Thomas Massey?
01:46:29.000Uh, politically speaking, of course, so by going public now, or did you just feel, uh, you know, this urge inside of you to come out and speak out now?
01:46:39.000Well, I mean, but that's the thing, though.
01:46:40.000I tried to go like, and who wants to go public?
01:46:43.000Who wants to go public and go through the scrutiny, right?
01:46:47.000And everybody wants a salacious story.
01:46:48.000And yes, I have the salacious part of my story, which was really uncomfortable, but you know, people start listening.
01:46:55.000And the sad thing is, people listen when it's a primary, and where I was going and trying to seek help through all the, um, the Official routes like that, that whole system was broken.
01:47:05.000Well, I think it's important, even though it's uncomfortable.
01:47:08.000I think that the salacious part's important because Thomas Massey has called President Trump a pedophile protector.
01:47:14.000And I'm not saying that Thomas Massey is a pedophile, but there is a little, you know, I mean, you could say a lot.
01:47:21.000There's a lot wrong with a man who's in a relationship after his wife just passed away, fantasizing about sexual fantasies and making a woman want to recite those sexual fantasies.
01:47:37.000Like, it sounds like you can't really want to do this.
01:47:39.000You could say that it was against your own will, in a sense, like kind of trying to force a woman to consent to acting out these very pornographic, intrusive, and, you know, degrading sexual fantasies or sexual thoughts, especially involving women, or you could even say girls that are just barely of age.
01:48:02.000And so I say this often and I'll say it again people who live in glass houses probably shouldn't be throwing stones.
01:48:09.000And it sounds like Thomas Massey's been living in a glass house.
01:48:14.000I know that it's probably traumatic that you had to relive and recite all of those very graphic sexual memories from your time with Congressman Massey.
01:48:26.000But it does further highlight this level of hypocrisy, right?
01:48:30.000You see, oftentimes with many members of Congress, their private lives do not match what they're doing in their personal lives.
01:48:36.000We just saw this with Eric Swalwell, who just resigned in disgrace.
01:48:39.000Another one who wanted to attack President Trump over the Epstein files, and we find out that he's now been credibly accused of raping multiple women.
01:48:46.000So, you know, it's just another form of evidence that shows a lot of these members of Congress who throw stones are living in glass houses.
01:48:57.000Well, and to speak to that, too, you know, people, you know, they're asking about the timing, right?
01:49:04.000And a lot of it had to do with the progression and the NDA and seeing Victoria win her primary and recognizing.
01:49:12.000That, you know, if I stayed quiet, then people will be harmed.
01:49:17.000And so there were multiple factors that come into play.
01:49:20.000Also, too, like with my school board race, I knew that people were going to use my relationship with Thomas Massey against me, and I wouldn't even be able to defend myself because I will have signed an NDA, right?
01:49:30.000Like, and I just felt so wrong about the whole thing, anyways.
01:49:34.000I mean, trying to fight for accountability and transparency as I have done, and then, you know, working with survivors of military sexual trauma to try and stay quiet on this, I couldn't do it.
01:49:50.000People think, okay, she's just vindictive.
01:49:53.000Come out because she's like as lighted, and I don't know if you got the flavor from me, but I don't feel comfortable talking about the things that happened to me.
01:50:05.000Like, I don't want to be a victim, I don't want to be like, Oh, boohoo me, this happened.
01:50:13.000I hate that I'm in this position, but I was put in this position and it wasn't my choice, and so I'm gonna speak my truth because that was what happened to me.
01:50:29.000You know, people, like I said, though, people are going to think and take whatever they want from this.
01:50:35.000And I'm sure I'll get attacked for what I've put out so far, but that's just going to be how humans act towards each other.
01:50:43.000So, just to be clear, are you receiving any payment or any type of legal support connected to these media appearances?
01:51:36.000And despite what people may say about Israel paying me, like I said, how are you supporting yourself?
01:51:42.000I know you said that you were a candidate in Okaloosa County for the school board in District 5 in Florida, but you are going to be announcing that you are dropping out of the race tomorrow, unfortunately for you.
01:51:56.000I mean, it sounds like you've lost a lot.
01:51:59.000So, you know, it's not like you're doing this to try to appeal to voters in any way because, if anything, it's just now killed off your campaign.
01:52:09.000But you are not receiving payment, but you are in talks with lawyers for possible defamation lawsuits.
01:52:16.000Have you spoken with a lawyer about any potential civil claims?
01:52:20.000Well, I need to look because now that I can switch over from the house legal, like I don't have to quit that litigation, I can figure that out.
01:52:29.000I don't know what options are really available to me.
01:52:32.000So that's kind of like getting through to the next process.
01:52:45.000Oh, one other point of clarification that I want to make because people were looking at my campaign account.
01:52:54.000In my divorce, we sold rental property and you can seed your own campaign account.
01:53:01.000And so I put a portion of money in my campaign account and then I raised a portion of money as well.
01:53:09.000And so people are like, oh, look, she's receiving money because she's got so much money in there.
01:53:14.000Well, I just parked some funds in there.
01:53:16.000And so that's easily verifiable should anybody want to take the effort to go and verify their information before they start slinging mud.
01:53:29.000I want to end this interview by ensuring that you're getting your point of view across as clearly and as honestly as possible.
01:53:35.000Is there anything you said today that you want to clarify or restate more precisely?
01:53:41.000And if so, what specifically do you want Congressman Massey to understand from your testimony today during this interview?
01:53:49.000You know, like if I was going to speak specifically to Thomas, right?
01:53:56.000I just, I hear him saying that it's fabricated, right?
01:54:04.000That he didn't, he knows he gave me the $10,000 and he knows, you know, that you gave me, I mean, I could just speak directly to you, you know, that I gave you that $10,000 back and you know the $5,000 was nothing to do with a lawyer.
01:54:20.000You, For my injunction stuff, because that was back in October.
01:54:24.000You wanted me to walk away because you wanted to engineer this relationship.
01:54:31.000Well, this situation for the work, for the relationship to be self serving to you.
01:54:37.000You wanted me to be able to be there and to provide you all these favors that you wanted.
01:54:43.000And you could not stand the idea of me, you know, going against Victoria Sparks, who you worked with to arrange this job.
01:55:15.000They're not objects for your pleasure.
01:55:17.000I mean, the whole idea, like, Trailblazer, wherever she is, I hope she comes out because I know you hurt her.
01:55:25.000And It's gross when somebody says that they don't want to do something, you listen to them, you don't force them or manipulate them or coerce them to do whatever it is for your pleasure.
01:55:44.000Like, I don't know what happened to you along the way where you had to get so, um, I don't know if it's power hungry or you know, I know you have fragility with your ego, I don't know what's going on with you, but maybe the best thing would be.
01:56:00.000For you to lose your election so that you could go ground yourself and have some humility and treat people with kindness and grow some empathy because it was wrong what you did and the lying about it.
01:56:12.000And Victoria Spartz, I know you're going to watch this too.
01:56:14.000And I know you're probably losing your mind about this, but how many people have you gone through in just over four years?
01:56:23.000It's like 100 staffers, something like that.
01:56:28.000And I know you're always like, oh, she's crazy.
01:56:54.000You know, if I have to let go of my school board race, if I had to walk away from $60,000, if I have to go through all the public scrutiny where they're like trying to pull up everything that they Possibly can to just hurt me intrinsically.
01:57:08.000Like, I at least want the people, the reason why I'm doing this, to know what they did was wrong.
01:57:13.000And I wouldn't just make this up to destroy myself.
01:57:20.000What specifically do you want Kentucky Republican primary voters to take away from your testimony, aside from what you just said, and that you want these people, including Thomas Massian and Victoria Spartz, to know that their behavior is wrong and that they have hurt people?
01:57:35.000Well, I mean, for the Indiana voters, I mean, I just want them to recognize that they're electing someone who's harming their staffers.
01:57:45.000I mean, at least Congresswoman Spartz, yes.
01:57:47.000For Sparks, for Thomas Massey, I mean, aside from what happened to me, like personally, right, because people might not even be interested in that, that's fine and well, whatever.
01:58:00.000But when you start looking at the national security implications, as far as what we know about Iran, and then when you start looking at the hate fueled anti Semitic rhetoric and just literally having Nazis, you know, from what I'm hearing, You know, at your home, or at least people who are promoting Nazi rhetoric, is that who you want to represent you?
01:58:29.000Because, I mean, our founding fathers, the way our government is formed is we elect our representatives to ensure that our needs are being met at the federal level.
01:58:44.000Like, I know sometimes it's good to, or it feels good to have someone who's going to, like, Talk a fiery game that like stick it to the man, but what are you getting?
01:59:07.000Um, and ultimately, it's their choice, you know, it's up to them to decide what they want to do.
01:59:13.000And I can't make that decision for them, but I hope that at least through this process, and I know that people have their suspicion about the 11th hour.
01:59:25.000And revelations, but at least you know, we know that it's truth being spoken.
01:59:30.000At least I know I'm bringing truth to the table, and all of the stuff, Laura, that you're bringing and others, it's verifiable.
01:59:37.000So take that and decide is this the person that I want to represent me?
01:59:42.000I don't even really know much about Ed, I really haven't looked into Ed, but um, you know, if pick who you want, pick your poison, right?
01:59:51.000If if you want that, if you want someone who's just going to be inflammatory and not get anything done, well, then elect him again.
02:01:01.000I'm not really sure where this path goes next.
02:01:05.000It's kind of like, let's see where we go tomorrow, one day at a time.
02:01:11.000Sounds like mostly accountability and transparency, then.
02:01:15.000And then, lastly, Ms. West, looking straight into the camera, based on what you personally experienced and what you said today in this interview and your testimony, what do you want the viewers to know?
02:01:27.000You could say one last thing in closing in this interview.
02:01:30.000What do you want the people watching this interview to know?
02:01:42.000All of them, whether they be spoken words, whether they be things that you type, whether you're a talking head, some media person, everything has a consequence.
02:01:54.000And there are people on the other end of that, right?
02:01:58.000And when we start talking about people who've experienced wrongs coming forward, and if we want people to come forward, if we value accountability and we value transparency, Then we need to make sure that we are operating in a place where we are not vilifying people who come forward with their stories.
02:02:24.000I mean, granted, you're going to always want to see, you know, as much information as you possibly can to make an informed decision.
02:02:31.000However, when you treat people with such vitriol, as we're seeing with me, right, and others, I'm not the only one, you're keeping other people from speaking out against the wrongs that are happening to them.
02:02:49.000This continuous cycle of harm and wrongs being done to people.
02:02:54.000And so, if we want to create that change where people feel safe enough to come forward, that has to start with every single one of us.
02:03:03.000And I know I'm speaking these words, and they're probably going to fall on deaf ears because let's face it, people just want that dopamine rush of just saying something hurtful to someone else.
02:03:59.000Well, Ms. Wes, I just want you to know that I do believe you and I find your testimony and your demeanor to be genuine and sincere and honest.
02:04:09.000And I have independently verified a lot of the information that you have claimed, including the information about your trips to South Africa.
02:04:24.000Uh, to be honest, I never once felt like during this interview or watching you over the last week since you went public that you have tried to exaggerate or conflate anything in order to make uh the congressman seem um you know worse than he is.
02:04:40.000I've actually seen you defend him in some instances, and uh, there are people that say that they think he murdered his wife, and you know he did, and you said that he didn't murder his wife, yeah.
02:04:52.000And so, I'm just saying that I don't think that you behave like a woman scorned.
02:04:57.000And I found you to be very straightforward and credible and believable.
02:05:02.000But of course, you just, you know, you interviewed with me for two hours now.
02:07:57.000Some of my staff have been with me from the very first race in 2012, and they have done so much.
02:08:04.000You know, we've never had, contrary to all the BS you've heard, we've never had a single ethics complaint filed against me or my staff in 14 years.
02:10:02.000There were a lot of surreal moments in this race, and frankly, in being in Congress, but being in a side by side racing through the woods with Bobby Sauce was definitely on my bucket list.
02:10:17.000So, and getting to that point, I want to thank the influencers who came all this way and produced all the videos and got out the young boat.
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02:13:03.000We accidentally, I think, I accidentally, I didn't mean to do this, it started out as an election and it turned into a movement.
02:13:28.000I mean, I think people, if you're not tired of politics, if you're not jaded, if you're not cynical, and so many people are, the people that want somebody that'll go along to get along, I've never heard of that strategy, but that seems to be what the voters want.
02:13:47.000That's what's been promised to them, but not the young voters.
02:15:43.000And there's, by the way, after 18 months of a blackout of not letting me on Fox, they finally let me on Fox today, four hours into the election.
02:16:06.000Hey, their slop is selling, so they'll keep selling it.
02:16:12.000But listen, I got to watch Fox also for the first time in 18 months.
02:16:18.000And there was the president talking about, by the way, while gas is almost $5 and diesel's almost $6, they're talking about this big ballroom they're going to build, and it looks like the Roman Empire, architecture from the Roman Empire.
02:17:44.000Knock that off, you're gonna make me feel good about losing.
02:17:49.000What I wanted to do was give you all credit when they saw the influencers here, they panicked, they sent the secretary of war here, and you stopped the war for a day.
02:19:37.000Our empire will collapse if we keep sending our money to other countries.
02:19:42.000I never picked a fight with the country that's tried to take me out here because I've never, but I've never voted for foreign aid to any country.
02:20:52.000Look, for years I've been standing up for the Second Amendment, the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, the Tenth Amendment.
02:21:01.000I just realized the Seventh Amendment is under attack.
02:21:05.000It's because I serve on the Judiciary Committee.
02:21:08.000The Seventh Amendment is your right to a jury trial.
02:21:28.000So that's part of, that's an amendment that frankly, I didn't think I was going to have to fight for, but I've been fighting for it in D.C., and we need to keep fighting for the Seventh Amendment too.
02:21:38.000They want, these corporations want get out of court free cards.
02:26:35.000Ed Gowrine, we weren't running against Donald Trump.
02:26:41.000We were running for what we believe in.
02:26:52.000Listen, if you always vote with the president, if the legislative branch always votes with the president, we do have a king.
02:27:02.000If the legislative branch always votes whichever way the wind is blowing, then we have mob rule.
02:27:11.000But if the legislative branch and the representatives and the senators that serve with it always follow the Constitution, we have a republic.
02:29:38.000In fact, about an hour or so after the polls closed, I mean, I wanted to call this election 10 minutes, right?
02:29:47.000After the polls closed, because I was confident, just like I've been confident for a while now, that Thomas Massey was going to lose his reelection campaign, that I wanted to call this race.
02:30:14.000He is basically insulting all of the voters in Kentucky's fourth congressional district by saying that they're foreign agents, saying that he tried to call his opponent, Ed Gell Reign, but he couldn't reach him because he's in Tel Aviv.
02:30:26.000When, I mean, we have video footage of Ed Gell Reign's victory party, and he is, in fact, in Kentucky tonight celebrating.
02:30:49.000He lost his election because news flash to the woke Reich losers, the woke Reich retards who seem to need a history lesson.
02:30:56.000We fought a war against the Nazis in the 1940s and thousands and thousands and thousands of brave Americans lost their lives fighting Nazism.
02:31:09.000Okay, we already had an absolute referendum rejecting Nazism.
02:31:14.000We're not going to go back in time to history and import Nazism into America.
02:31:23.000We're supposed to be one nation united under God.
02:31:27.000And you know, it's really interesting.
02:31:28.000You're listening to Thomas Massey's concession speech, and he said that we don't need a uniparty, we need a unity party.
02:31:35.000Well, how exactly does the congressman plan on having a unity party when he's helping actual Nazis?
02:31:42.000Launch congressional campaigns across America.
02:31:44.000He is saying that the voters who don't like the fact that he undermines the GOP, he voted against border security, he voted against the immigration package to expand funding for ICE and DHS.
02:31:56.000He has basically just been throwing around all these unfounded sexual accusations against the president of the United States, calling Donald Trump a pedophile protector because Donald Trump believes in due process and he doesn't want a bunch of random people who simply knew Jeffrey Epstein to have their lives ruined and be called pedophiles because, well, You know, they attended a party one time and Jeffrey Epstein walked by and they were in a photo that somebody took, but they didn't really talk to him and didn't really know him.
02:32:24.000But we're going to ruin those people's lives now and we're going to call them a pedophile and we're going to harass them because that's not how America works.
02:32:30.000That's not how our justice system works.
02:32:32.000And President Trump is a great president and a great leader for actually upholding due process because if anybody knows what it's like and what it feels like to have weaponized government used against them, it's Donald Trump.
02:32:43.000And I said this, I said this over a year ago.
02:32:45.000I said that the Epstein files are the new, it's a new Russia collusion hoax.
02:32:50.000I'm not saying that there's a complete hoax and that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't a pedophile.
02:32:57.000I do believe Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile, but I do believe that the whole Epstein file fiasco is a hoax.
02:33:03.000It's like the Russia collusion hoax, but that was so tired and overused that now they need a new hoax to try to get everybody into a psychosis, and that's what it is.
02:33:13.000Israel derangement syndrome basically deny the fact that you are unlikable, deny the fact that you are a faulty candidate, deny the fact that you have worked against the interests of the people in your constituency, your constituents.
02:33:26.000You have worked against the Republican Party, you have undermined the leader of the Republican Party.
02:33:31.000And you clearly do not care about unity, Thomas Massey.
02:33:34.000So, all these people chanting 2028, 2028 at his concession party tonight, basically signaling that they would like him to run for president in 2028.
02:33:45.000Go ahead, run for president in 2028, and you're going to get smoked.
02:33:49.000So, I think it's quite fitting, given this absolute rejection of the woke Reich tonight, the humiliating defeat that the woke Reich has suffered just weeks after the Ohio election when Casey Push, another woke Reich candidate, lost their election.
02:34:05.000We're now coming up on the Texas elections.
02:34:07.000And then in August, we're going to have the Florida primaries as well, where you're going to see Dan Bilzerian and you're also going to see James Fishback lose their elections because the American people reject Nazism.
02:34:17.000The American people reject the woke Reich and they absolutely reject this Israel derangement syndrome.
02:34:23.000Joining me now to discuss this is GOP Congressman, Trump endorsed Congressman, Florida GOP Congressman, Randy Fine.
02:34:32.000Congressman, thank you so much for coming on the program tonight.
02:35:19.000I mean, I think for me personally, I think for you personally, I think I'm very proud of Donald Trump for leading the Republican Party to not make the mistake that Democrats made 20 or 30 or 40 years ago when they refused to address Jew hatred in their own party.
02:35:37.000There was a time when they only had a couple.
02:35:39.000We had two Marjorie Taylor Greene, who Donald Trump chased out, so she quit.
02:35:44.000And Thomas Massey, who embraced full unmitigated Jew hatred.
02:35:49.000And we've now smushed them both and made clear to them the Republican Party, we will not, there will be no quarter for that.
02:35:57.000If you come at us, we will come right back at you.
02:36:00.000And so I'm very proud of President Trump for what he's done because what people need to understand is anti Semitism is just the canary in the coal mine for the collapse of civilization.
02:36:09.000It starts with the Jews, it doesn't end there.
02:36:11.000And it is not a coincidence on the same day that Thomas Massey goes down.
02:36:17.000The Democrats have a candidate who won their primary and is now in a runoff that says Jews should be put in concentration camps in the United States.
02:36:26.000The Democratic Party is in full collapse right now.
02:36:30.000And the only thing that will save America, not for the Jews, but for all Western civilization, is the Republican Party.
02:36:37.000And so it was a big night tonight for America.
02:37:19.000Chronically online, because I have a team of people who work with me, who work for me, who are committed to pumping out news and content on a daily basis.
02:37:28.000So, yeah, I'm online, but I'm actually reasonable.
02:37:32.000And I would say that I have a pretty high batting average, and I'm not living in la la land and, you know, absolutely delusional, like the rogue Reich.
02:37:40.000These people, Thomas Massey has a lot of veterans, right?
02:37:44.000You have like World War II veterans living in his district, and he's sending Nazis around, like literal Nazis.
02:37:50.000I'm not here to call everybody who I disagree with.
02:37:59.000This is the problem with what the Democrats did when we saw the SPLC.
02:38:02.000Now, the information's come out that the SPLC funded the Nazis.
02:38:06.000They funded the white supremacists in order to create this whole hoax after Charlottesville to say, oh, look at, you know, Donald Trump supports Nazis.
02:38:15.000They said, Russia, And now that we have Alexander Dugan and we have RT actually influencing the elections and running cover for the woke Reich and serving as like the official clippers.
02:38:27.000It's almost like the Kremlin is providing clipping services to all of these members of the woke Reich.
02:38:33.000Nobody really cares anymore because they've been desensitized to the term Russia, or actual Russian election interference.
02:38:40.000Like today, when the Russians tried to interfere in the election in Kentucky by posting from the official RT account, which is state sponsored media, in support of Thomas Massey by attacking me and my media company and our questioning of the congressman, right?
02:38:55.000Attacking Jewish Americans on behalf of a foreign government because you like that congressman who.
02:39:01.000I guess supports your foreign government.
02:39:04.000We saw the way that Iranian donors in the form of Joe Chiani, a Democrat, allegedly Muslim mega donor who's donated millions of dollars to Democrat causes and Joe Biden vacations at his home, right?
02:39:16.000Why are the Iranians and the Russians supporting Thomas Massey?
02:39:21.000Why are his supporters walking around in actual swastikas and Nazi garb knocking on people's doors?
02:39:27.000Did this guy actually think that he was going to win by sending Nazis door to door?
02:39:34.000I think there are three different groups there, and I think we should talk about them because they're all important.
02:39:38.000Obviously, look, there have always been these sort of neo Nazi losers.
02:39:43.000I had to deal with them when I was a kid in Kentucky 30, 40 years ago, 40 years ago now, I guess, when I was 12, 13 years old.
02:39:50.000There have always been these kinds of people, like the guy you talked about wearing the swastika around his neck as he campaigned for Thomas Massey.
02:39:59.000Then you've got sort of the Muslim terror folks, the folks from Iran that are trying to be involved because they want to engage in our politics.
02:40:07.000And get us to stop them from stopping them from getting a nuclear weapon.
02:40:12.000But I think part of the reason people get confused about the Russia stuff is they don't understand why Russia would care about an election like this.
02:41:55.000The RT account during the Russia-Ukraine war for a long time was banned.
02:41:59.000And at what point in time, you know, RT actually had some decent news coverage.
02:42:03.000But something has happened over the last several months, really actually since October 7th.
02:42:07.000I've really been noticing this since October 7th is when it took place.
02:42:11.000RT has now transitioned, you can see here, into an account that just retweets a lot of the most divisive podcasters in America.
02:42:19.000And you have to ask yourself why an account that is literally the state sponsored, state funded account out of the Kremlin for state sponsored Russian media, directed by Vladimir Putin himself, why are they so focused on clipping Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, Dan Belzerian, James Fishback, like all these divisive people, Thomas Massey?
02:42:41.000I mean, all of the Jew haters in our country are now being featured on Al Jazeera, right?
02:42:49.000Muslim Brotherhood, Turkish media, Iranian state media, Russian media, Chinese media.
02:42:55.000And at some point in time, we need the DOJ to intervene here because the first thing that Pam Bondi did upon being sworn in as Attorney General was she signed a memo and implemented a memo that essentially got rid of all foreign FARA registration enforcement and all of the funding and all of the apparatuses at the DOJ for enforcing FARA.
02:43:19.000And so even if these people are Involved in fara violations, which I strongly suspect many of these people are.
02:43:28.000I know I've spoken to you about this extensively about how they have information that shows that the Turkish government and especially Erdogan, Muslim Brotherhood, is paying millions of dollars to some of these podcasters so that they can sow specifically anti Israel, anti Jewish sentiment.
02:43:45.000Like that was the main thing that I was told.
02:43:47.000And also anti Trump sentiment as well because they want to use anti Semitism as a way to divide our country.
02:43:53.000Make people think that, oh, Donald Trump is controlled by Israel.
02:43:58.000We have Bibi Netanyahu pulling the puppet strings here, and Donald Trump is just living in Bibi Netanyahu's world.
02:44:03.000That is what they want people to think.
02:44:05.000It is some of the most ancient anti Semitic tropes the idea that Jews are puppets.
02:44:11.000Okay, go back and look at Nazi imagery.
02:44:14.000Go back and look at any type of imagery throughout the course of civilization, and you will see this puppeteer imagery being used to describe Jews.
02:44:23.000And I want to get your take on this as a member of Congress, as somebody who now is being subjected to this and victimized by having a woke Reich opponent, Dan Bilzerian, who my sources tell me is allegedly a federal informant working with the FBI in a case right now, cooperating with FBI agents.
02:44:43.000Which makes you wonder, you know, why would the DOJ, the Trump DOJ, be working with somebody who is a top tier Jew hater, right?
02:44:52.000Unless this is all some kind of act for him.
02:45:16.000Actually, implemented and created some of the legislation that I proposed when I ran for Congress and I desired to see implemented, but I didn't get to Congress.
02:45:26.000You proposed legislation, for example, to outlaw dual citizenship for members of Congress, including Israeli citizenship.
02:45:32.000You want members of Congress to be able to speak English.
02:45:35.000You want members of Congress to, trying to think of some of these others that you've done too.
02:45:48.000Also, save the Puppies Act, saving animals from halal slaughter and saving animals from Islamic animal abuse.
02:45:55.000This is something that you have been a champion of, and these are all America first.
02:46:00.000Yet every day I see online, you are absolutely berated.
02:46:03.000You are called a kike, you are called a subversive Jew.
02:46:06.000They say, go back to Israel, you fucking Jew, you fucking kike, fuck you, Jew.
02:46:11.000I mean, not to be graphic here with a member of Congress, but you and Jared Moskowitz, Democrat Jewish member of Congress, are probably the two most abused members of Congress on the internet.
02:47:27.000And so you'll find losers out there who are unhappy with their lives and they want someone to blame.
02:47:33.000And instead of, instead of doing what my grandmother did to me when I felt sorry for myself, giving me a swat on the butt and say, get off of it and get back to it.
02:47:43.000Don't sit around and feel sorry for yourself.
02:47:45.000These people look for someone to blame.
02:49:13.000Farah, for sure, but there are a lot of people online in other countries that are pretending to be Americans.
02:49:18.000Like, I'm not, I mean, if I had a dollar for every single Pakistani account that pretended to be some white Groeper saying, I'm not going to die for Israel, and then you click their account, and now it's like, oh, it's in, you know, Karachi, Pakistan, where they just attacked our consulate.
02:49:36.000And so perhaps they do need to bring these social media executives before Congress have a conversation about this because ultimately this is a threat to our national security.
02:49:47.000Because look, I mean, the mosque itself, and I condemn violence, right?
02:49:51.000People are saying, oh, you know, she's advocating for violence.
02:49:53.000I condemn violence, but I'm saying this shooting that we just saw at a mosque yesterday in California at a jihadi Muslim Brotherhood affiliated mosque where they have held events in support of Palestinian terrorists and Hamas terrorists.
02:50:08.000You know, they're now saying supposedly that the shooters had a manifesto where they blamed the Jews.
02:50:31.000My point to a big issue is that they're talking about, oh, we need to have Islamophobia laws.
02:50:36.000Well, if anything, doesn't that show that there's more anti Semitism unless the shooters were that dumb that they thought a mosque was a synagogue, right?
02:50:46.000Unless they thought that a mosque was a synagogue because their manifesto doesn't mention Muslims.
02:50:59.000I mean, the mom at this mosque has been on the record.
02:51:02.000I bring this up specifically for one reason.
02:51:04.000And the reason is because they're now saying online, whether it's true or not, that the shooters were radicalized online, that they were radicalized online and in group chats.
02:51:16.000And I'm just getting snippets like seeing these clips online.
02:51:19.000And if that is true, if that's the case, then.
02:51:22.000You know, we have free speech, but I do think that the free speech applies to American citizens, right?
02:51:27.000These are American social media companies.
02:51:29.000We are not entitled to allow for foreign influence operations that are designed and paid for by terrorist regimes and our adversaries to have fake sock puppet bot accounts online to sow division and discord.
02:51:42.000And so I'm not calling for censorship, but I do think that there's a difference between banning a United States citizen that has a First Amendment right to be online and say whatever they want, even if it is.
02:51:52.000Viewed as racist or hateful because there's no such thing as hate speech, and a difference between some foreigner or Pakistani pretending to be American, right?
02:52:01.000Like that's almost as bad as stolen valor.
02:52:03.000You can, you can, you can, well, be charged with a crime, right?
02:52:08.000And so, if you are committing stolen valor by pretending to be an American and creating division online, I think that that should be a bannable offense.
02:52:18.000I think that should be a bannable offense.
02:52:20.000Well, I don't even necessarily want the companies to be told what they can and can't do.
02:52:25.000I just think it would be nice, for example, if on X, I could say, or you could say, I only want my content seen in the United States by people who aren't on VPNs, and or I only want the people who can like.
02:52:41.000And comment on my content to be from the United States.
02:52:45.000I think a lot of this foreign slop affects what people see.
02:52:51.000And by the way, I don't want to tell these companies they can't do it.
02:52:54.000I would like the setting to allow me or anyone who wanted.
02:52:58.000I don't really care what people in Pakistan think about American politics.
02:53:03.000And I'm not even saying I should be able to limit it to my district or my state.
02:53:07.000I just think it'd be good to limit it to America.
02:53:10.000But I think that what we have to understand is anti Semitism is real.
02:53:17.000And I think what tonight shows is in the Republican Party, we're not going to put up with it.
02:53:22.000The Democratic Party can talk about putting Jews in concentration camps, which one of their congressional candidates so openly said today all Zionists.
02:53:32.000She said that they were going to, the leaders.
02:53:34.000She said that they're going to be put in internment camps.
02:53:36.000We can get it pulled up on the screen.
02:53:55.000Texas Democrat Maureen Galindo faces backlash for pledging to imprison American Zionists at ICE facility.
02:54:01.000So she said that she went on this rant and said that she was going to put American Zionists code for Jews in internment camps and that she was going to castrate all the pedophiles.
02:54:10.000And then she says, well, that means that we're going to take all the Zionists and the Jews because it's the Jews that are the pedophiles.
02:54:16.000So we're going to castrate all the Jews because Jews are pedophiles and we're putting them in internment camps.
02:54:21.000You can go put the article back on the screen and see it yourself because I think people really need to.
02:54:25.000You know, people say things all the time like, oh, there's no way candidates like this could win.
02:54:29.000Well, I mean, they might actually win.
02:54:31.000This might actually be like an actual nominee.
02:54:34.000My understanding, Laura, is that she came in first place in the runoff.
02:55:45.000You say that Donald Trump is stamping this out, but I do think that more can be done.
02:55:49.000And look, I applaud the president for being against Thomas Massey, but.
02:55:54.000John Thune and Mike Johnson need to condemn this behavior.
02:55:58.000It is long, and I know that you don't want to go down this route, but I'm going to say it because it needs to be said.
02:56:03.000The fact that Thomas Massey, we now have a video recording, and I'm going to play this for you because I want you to see it and I want to get your reaction.
02:56:11.000The fact that we now have a video recording, and Thomas Massey is still going to be in office.
02:56:16.000Just because he lost doesn't mean he's out tomorrow, okay?
02:56:19.000He's going to be in office till they have the next swearing in ceremony in January or so.
02:56:26.000So he's going to be able to continue sabotaging, he's going to be able to continue doing what he wants to do.
02:56:32.000To undermine Donald Trump until he's out of office.
02:56:35.000He's going to ratchet up the behavior because now he's got nothing to lose.
02:56:43.000I don't think that he should be allowed that opportunity.
02:56:45.000I think that Mike Johnson and the Republicans need to censure Thomas Massey for campaigning in Kentucky with a man who was wearing a swastika and who was wearing a shirt that said American Reich, full blown Nazi garb.
02:56:58.000We have the photo, we can get it pulled up on the screen.
02:57:01.000We have the videos of Ryan Amata inside Congressman Massey's house.
02:57:04.000People thought, Oh, they actually said this is a plant from APAC.
02:57:10.000They said he's a plant from APAC there to make the congressman look bad because who would show up wearing a Nazi shirt to a rally?
02:58:28.000There's no way that Thomas Massey has control over who shows up to his events.
02:58:32.000Like, so many people want to show up to events and take selfies with a member of Congress, right?
02:58:37.000And then lo and behold, Thomas Massey is thanking him publicly after he took a photo with him in the American Reich sweater, gives him a hug, and then invites him to his house.
02:58:47.000Now, we have this video footage of two days after he shows up to his event.
02:58:52.000Ryan Matta is then inside Thomas Massey's home.
02:58:55.000I posted this video on X inside Thomas Massey's home.
02:58:58.000And then, in the most provocative thing possible, and don't tell me that Congressman Massey didn't know what he's doing, he's sitting there surrounded by this guy who is a Nazi.
02:59:09.000Clearly, like, don't tell me you're not a Nazi when you're wearing American Reich sweaters and swastikas.
02:59:14.000Like, people say, I don't want to be called a Nazi.
02:59:17.000All they do, all these Jews do, is call us Nazis.
02:59:20.000Well, maybe you wouldn't be called a Nazi if you didn't wear a swastika and you didn't wear Nazis.
02:59:25.000Garb that said American Reich with the Nazi emblem, the eagle that the Nazis wore during the time of the Holocaust.
02:59:32.000So here's this other video of Ryan Matta.
02:59:35.000I believe we have the clip of him inside Thomas Massey's home.
03:02:01.000He goes to this house belonging to the congressman with Bobby Sauce.
03:02:05.000If you watched Congressman Massey's concession speech tonight, he literally took a moment to pause and say, Where is Bobby Sauce, my favorite influencer who's here tonight?
03:02:17.000So he said his favorite influencer who showed up, who's online, is the guy that showed up to his house with a Holocaust denier who wears Hitler garb.
03:02:26.000Look, it's clear that Massey chose to embrace Jew hatred full steam.
03:02:48.000And look, I mean, I guess he got angry because American Jews did spend a lot of money to defeat him because we don't want Jew haters in our government.
03:02:57.000So he has clearly chosen to embrace it.
03:03:20.000And we have made clear we had, I said in a speech six months ago that I served out of 220 Republicans in the US House of Representatives, 99% were not Jew haters.
03:03:37.000Because honestly, we see this weekend, you had, and this is what I was saying before, It's time for John Thune and it's time for Mike Johnson to stop beating around the bush.
03:03:49.000We saw Rand Paul's son go on a Jew hater bash at a bar the other day where he said, You people, you fucking Jews, you fucking Jews are going to be responsible when Massey loses.
03:04:02.000I mean, just the most vile stuff you could hear.
03:04:05.000And then he says, Oh, I'm so sorry, I have an alcohol problem.
03:04:08.000No, you don't have an alcohol problem.
03:04:10.000After his son gets called, uh, Called out for going on this Jew hating rant that sounded like a neo Nazi at a bar, the same bar that Graham Plattner, another Nazi running for Senate in Maine, used to bartend at, where he used to brag about having his Nazi tattoo.
03:04:25.000I don't know if that bar is like a Nazi hangout or if it's like some secret place for Groypers.
03:05:53.000Then you have Warren Davidson, who just waited to the last minute in Ohio to get endorsed by President Trump and then waited for his election to end to endorse Thomas Massey.
03:06:36.000I think it was a massive error of judgment.
03:06:39.000I only found out they were doing it after I left Washington last week.
03:06:44.000And I suspect that I'll have conversations with them when I begin to see them again.
03:06:49.000I wonder how they feel because I think part of the problem, if I were to give people the benefit of the doubt, I saw this with Tucker Carlson.
03:06:58.000You know, my father used to hang up the phone with me when Tucker came on the air because it was so important to him.
03:08:19.000This is political activity is going to a rally.
03:08:22.000And there's one thing about disagreeing with the president and maybe finding yourself at odds.
03:08:26.000And look, I don't even agree with President Trump on everything.
03:08:29.000I find myself agreeing with him on a lot, but there's ways to respectfully do this.
03:08:33.000You don't have to go and, you know, say, oh, well, you know, my opponent's in Tel Aviv.
03:08:37.000Even when he was on stage with, These members of Congress, he was lying and trying to degrade everybody who is voting and supporting and saying that they're foreign agents.
03:09:27.000It's unbelievable to have made a comment about calling him in a foreign country and to say that, then turn around and say, you've handled yourself honorably.
03:09:37.000Look, Thomas Massey is a disgusting person, and he got the ultimate censure and expulsion tonight by the voters of Kentucky.
03:09:47.000They have thrown him out of office in an incredibly humiliating way.
03:09:52.000Because the fact of the matter is this Donald Trump's endorsement means a lot.
03:09:56.000All of the money that was spent against Thomas Massey means a lot.
03:09:59.000But at the end of the day, it was the people of Kentucky who went into the voting booth and threw him out and for good reason.
03:10:07.000So if he wants to be a spoil sport and a whiner and the loser that he is, the guy's a loser.
03:10:28.000And highlighting how Thomas Massey, too, is a Jew hater.
03:10:31.000I mean, he didn't seem to have the balls to confront you head on.
03:10:35.000I mean, for all of his talk and his little snarkiness when he's around his friends and he's drinking on stage at his rallies and he's with his Nazi influencers, did he ever say anything to you in person about opposing you to your face?
03:10:48.000We just found out in a video clip that has since been exclusively released and published by me that Thomas Massey apparently recruited and helped build the campaign infrastructure for your neo Nazi opponent, Dan Bilzerian.
03:11:02.000I want to go ahead and play this clip of Dan Bilzerian saying that Thomas Massey, who just gloriously lost his election tonight, was rejected by the voters who rejected Nazism in Kentucky's 4th District tonight.
03:11:18.000That Thomas Massey basically is organizing a coup against you.
03:11:41.000You know, this is my first political run, so I'm sure we're going to have hiccups and hangups.
03:11:46.000I plan on going to Florida and doing some live events and, you know, communicating with the people, hopefully get a Get a group of people to kind of like go on the ground and knock on some of the doors.
03:11:57.000The problem is 70% of my district that has historically voted in the primaries.
03:12:28.000It's just, you know, we're going to, I'm going to do some untraditional stuff, but I think we should also do the traditional, you know, door knocking, leave no stone unturned.
03:12:39.000So, this must feel really nice, nice for you tonight, Congressman, knowing that the man who is responsible for your primary election is now defeated.
03:12:48.000But did you ever know that Thomas Massey had been quietly and secretly plotting against you, or is this the first time you're finding out?
03:13:05.000Losers generally hang out with losers.
03:13:08.000And so, you know, I don't find any of it surprising.
03:13:11.000But I think it speaks to just the fraud that Massey is.
03:13:15.000Here's someone who talks about foreign influence and America first and everything else, who's apparently conspiring with a foreigner, someone who's a citizen of Armenia to run for Congress.
03:13:28.000I think what it shows is that Massey's simply an intellectually bankrupt loser who gravitated towards Jew hatred for the same reason so many other losers gravitate towards it, because it's easy.
03:13:40.000It's an easy way to blame someone else for your own failures.
03:14:35.000Oh, but I was told, see, Congressman Fine, I was told that Jews are not American and that you and I are going to be sharing the same concentration camp cell and we're going to be deported to Israel with Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin.
03:14:49.000That's what I was told by Dan Bilzerian, your opponent.
03:14:52.000Well, again, look, again, I don't know how politics works in Armenia where he served in the military.
03:15:00.000But, you know, I mean, it's a different country.
03:15:02.000Their political customs are different.
03:15:04.000I just know that people in Florida aren't going to elect a foreigner from Armenia to Congress.
03:15:08.000So I don't spend a lot of time worrying about it.
03:15:11.000Was this the first time that you got wind of Thomas Massey?
03:15:15.000Of course, when you saw the clip a couple of days ago when I first reported this, that he had been working against you.
03:15:19.000What's been your interaction with him in Congress as a colleague?
03:15:34.000I think his disdain for Jews has been well known for a long time.
03:15:40.000It's obviously become more vocal in the last year, but he wouldn't meet with his Jewish constituents because he says all Jews are dual citizens.
03:15:48.000So I generally don't go out of my way to speak to him.
03:15:57.000I think, for example, the Chabad rabbi in. Lexington, Kentucky, he wouldn't, he wouldn't meet with because, you know, again, all Jews, I think to him are, are dual citizens.
03:16:07.000So, I mean, I had, I had seen and heard enough before I got to Congress to understand that he was not, did not like people like me.
03:16:15.000And so I don't go out of my way to spend time with Jew haters.
03:16:19.000Same reason I never talked to Marjorie Taylor Greene.
03:16:21.000I mean, I just, I just don't go out of my way to talk to people like that.
03:16:24.000So I've never, I've never interacted with him good or bad.
03:16:44.000I actually was at the congressional picnic tonight as the results were coming in, but I actually left before the president came out in order to start to do some media commentary about the results.
03:17:46.000You could spill tonight on Loomer Unleash about what some members of Congress were saying or thinking or discussing as the results were coming in?
03:18:00.000And I will say, I had a number of people compliment me and they said, you know, it took some stones to be able to go take the guy on.
03:18:07.000Look, tomorrow morning at nine o'clock, we have our Republican conference meeting.
03:18:12.000He may be there and, you know, and probably won't be a very happy camper.
03:18:16.000And clearly, I have spoken out against him.
03:18:19.000More forcefully probably than any other Republican, because I think part of dealing with anti Semitism and some of the disdain and disgust that I have for so many of the Democratic Jews is they only seem to want to call it out when it's on our side, which it exists.
03:18:42.000Josh Gottheimer, Jared Moskowitz, there are those who do call it out, but there are a lot more elected Jewish Democrats Than there are elected Jewish Republicans.
03:18:53.000They were in a far greater position to stop it in their own party than I and others are in mine.
03:19:00.000Yet we have done the hard work to do that.
03:19:39.000Last I looked, it was about 10 points, which is meaningful, but it's not 70.
03:19:44.000And I just want to thank you for the work that you did in putting a lot of this information out, because interestingly, much of what you have pointed out, others have refused to do.
03:19:54.000And you've shown how the power of social media can be used for good.
03:19:58.000The other compliment I want to give to you.
03:20:00.000Is the reason why so many influencers go down the dark path of Jew hatred is because there are a lot of people out there who hate the Jews.
03:20:10.000There's a lot more Pakistanis than there are Israelis, for example.
03:20:14.000So you've chosen to fight in the world where there aren't as many people to easily be by your side and to support you.
03:20:21.000And you haven't chosen the easy path that Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson or Megyn Kelly have chosen to go down.
03:20:30.000And thank you for what you do every day to get the word out because someone's got to be telling the truth.
03:20:35.000I can do it inside of Congress, but it's important to have voices outside of Congress doing it as well.
03:20:39.000Yeah, look, I mean, I appreciate those compliments.
03:20:41.000It means a lot coming from you, Congressman, but I do believe that the woke Reich is an existential threat.
03:20:46.000They have decided to unite with the Red Green Alliance.
03:20:49.000And, you know, we talked about it being a Red Green Alliance where you had these communists and the radical left aligning with the Islamists.
03:20:56.000But now you have some of these defectors from the right, people who used to be stalwarts in the GOP media complex, like Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson.
03:21:05.000I mean, at one point in time, Tucker Carlson was, you know, the top.
03:21:10.000MAGA, I guess you could say, MAGA media personality.
03:21:15.000And every single night, everybody would tune in to Tucker when he talked about things other than Israel and the Jews and Muslims to kind of get the pulse of MAGA.
03:21:27.000I think there's a reason why you don't see Jew hatred the same way on television that you see it in the influencer world.
03:21:34.000It's because people respond to their audiences.
03:21:38.000And if you're going to cater, To Pakistan and Yemen and Iran, where there are hundreds of millions of people, that's why you see them go to the dark side.
03:21:58.000And hopefully, we'll see some congressional investigations soon.
03:22:01.000Last thing I want to say before you leave is there were a lot of accusations in this interview that I did by Cynthia West, who's an ex girlfriend and former congressional staffer for Congresswoman Spartz about Thomas Massey and his inappropriate misdemeanor.
03:22:14.000Conduct, his use of a burner phone that's managed by his taxpayer funded staff called a boner phone that he uses to manage his sexual relations with women, his alleged accusations of emotional abuse and alleged sexual abuse of Cynthia West, and also this accusation that he has been taking Iranian money from supporters of the regime.
03:22:40.000Do you plan on pursuing any type of House ethics complaint and pursuing any type of congressional investigation into Thomas Massey's ties to?
03:22:49.000Possible IRGC assets or foreign regimes?
03:24:30.000And of course, this couldn't have been made possible without my incredible team.
03:24:34.000And I'm getting so many messages from members of Congress right now, from GOP donors, from White House officials, from all types of different political officials and my supporters and friends of mine who are saying congratulations because, you know, my expose of Thomas Massey, my interview that I did with Cynthia West, I will say that in the 48 hours between the election that I released that damning interview that was retweeted by the President of the United States and seen millions of times online,
03:25:03.000Thomas Massey dropped another 10 points or so in the polls.
03:25:06.000So, you know, look, a lot of this, a lot went in.
03:25:09.000I'm not taking credit for this, but I will say that this, in the last 48 hours, last 48, 72 hours of this election, when it really mattered, I think that this really, really did some damage to Congressman Massey, rightfully so.
03:25:24.000But, you know, more than that, you know, my team and I at Loomer Unleashed, we have been tracking Thomas Massey extensively in the halls of Congress for the last two years.
03:25:35.000And we have aggressively confronted him and questioned him when other members, Of the GOP media refused to do so.
03:25:42.000He seems to be quite protected, even the leftists.
03:25:46.000For example, I recently started working with a public affairs company, and we sent out press releases the other day to 4,000 media contacts about my exclusive interview.
03:25:59.000Now, mind you, this was a pretty damning exclusive interview.
03:26:02.000It was retweeted by the president of the United States and seen millions of times online, and members of Congress are now commenting on it, and it just played a really big role in helping to unseat Congressman Massey.
03:26:13.000And not a single media reporter replied to the press release because Thomas Massey's been endorsed by Code Pink, right?
03:26:20.000He's been endorsed by AOCs, endorsed by all these leftists and all these radical left organizations.
03:26:27.000And so he's not exactly somebody who the left wants out of office.
03:26:31.000Generally speaking, if you are an effective Republican, the left is gunning for you.
03:26:37.000They're lying about you, they're smearing you.
03:26:39.000Like that's what they do to me every day and my team at Loomer Unleashed because we're effective and we're exposing people and we're holding people accountable.
03:26:47.000We are truly holding people on both sides of the political aisle accountable.
03:26:51.000It doesn't matter if you are a Republican, if you are a Democrat, if you are a member of this administration, Loomer Unleash holds people's feet to the fire and we get results.
03:27:02.000We get the receipts and we get results here at Loomer Unleashed.
03:27:06.000And one person who is up on Capitol Hill, because I don't live in Washington, D.C., I go back and forth between Florida and D.C., who really helps make a lot of this possible and couldn't do it without him, is my My dedicated and trusted, phenomenal DC correspondent, Charles Downs, who's joining me now live from Washington, DC, to discuss the election results.
03:27:35.000I have an update, too, about the congressional, I guess, I think it's picnic.
03:27:40.000I heard when Thomas Massey lost, President Trump got a smile on his face and started shaking congressmen's hands, saying, Massey lost, Massey lost.
03:27:49.000There's a picture of him like smiling, but I heard he shook multiple people's hands.
03:27:53.000Well, I'm sure that we're going to see a great Truth Social post come in anytime soon now, but let's go ahead and break down these results, get into the numbers, Charles.
03:28:01.000I know that you are originally from Ohio.
03:28:04.000And so, you know, you're just right across the way from Kentucky there, and you know the district quite well.
03:28:11.000Why don't you tell the viewers tonight why we were able to call this election so fast before other outlets and just a breakdown of the different counties and the different numbers and why we were able to tell About 10 minutes after this race, when numbers started trickling in, why Thomas Massey was going to be defeated tonight?
03:28:30.000Oh, yeah, so most of Massey's population actually lives in northern Kentucky, which is the Cincinnati metro area.
03:28:37.000So it's like, it's funny, the Cincinnati airport is in northern Kentucky.
03:28:42.000So that's how close Cincinnati and Kentucky are, essentially.
03:28:46.000And the main counties there are Boone, Kenton, Campbell.
03:28:49.000And Kenton was the first Kentucky county to respond in Thomas Massey's district.
03:28:55.000And when the numbers came in from Kenton County, Thomas Massey was down like 12 points.
03:29:00.000And I told you on the phone, oh, he's done.
03:29:03.000Because there's no way Boone and Campbell aren't voting the same way.
03:29:06.000And like I said, most of his population live in those three counties.
03:29:11.000He could run them up everywhere else, and it wasn't going to matter.
03:29:14.000If he was down 10 in those three, it was over.
03:29:17.000And it's very telling because, like I said, Cincinnati Airport is located in north of Kentucky in this district.
03:29:24.000So people say so goes Ohio, so goes the nation.
03:29:29.000It's kind of like Ohio people who live in Massey's district.
03:29:33.000So, the woke right got smashed two times basically by the same people in the last four weeks.
03:29:39.000It's clear they're not liked in the Republican Party, they're not wanted, and they should just go be Democrats.
03:29:46.000So, that's the breakdown of Massey's election and why he lost.
03:29:50.000Shout out to everyone in Cincinnati and all those great voters.
03:29:55.000Well, you know, another thing that's really interesting too, and I was talking about this with Congressman Randy Fine, if you were listening in, is just the.
03:30:04.000It's so interesting how they love to say, Oh, you guys don't matter.
03:30:09.000I don't know anybody else who had their Massey reporting retweeted by the President of the United States in the final hours of the election.
03:30:16.000And also, too, I mean, we've received millions of views on our reporting on Thomas Massey over the last two years.
03:30:23.000I mean, I'm sure we could pull up some of these videos here of you confronting the congressman up on the Hill, just, you know, highlighting and exposing his hypocrisy.
03:30:32.000And what's ironic about this, too, is we see the actual levels of foreign election interference.
03:30:50.000Like, when I saw him in Washington, D.C., one time and attempted to ask him a question, he wouldn't even speak to me.
03:30:57.000I mean, as the congressman just said, he hates Jews.
03:31:00.000And it's known that Thomas Massey doesn't take meetings with Jewish people.
03:31:03.000He is a total Jew hater, Nazi adjacent, as I said.
03:31:07.000I mean, you can see the way that he's been totally consumed.
03:31:10.000I suspect that Thomas Massey is probably going to go totally batshit crazy between now and January because he has nothing left to lose.
03:31:19.000So we'll probably see him ratchet up the Jew hate.
03:31:22.000Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he were to come to Florida and campaign with Dan Bilzerian or if he campaigns with Anthony Sabatini or if he campaigns with James Fishback.
03:31:31.000Like, he's probably going to try to invite some idiots to Congress.
03:31:37.000Yeah, he'll probably invite some of these people to Congress.
03:31:40.000But, you know, this is a man who's been credibly accused of sexual misconduct.
03:31:44.000Conduct, abusing his position of power to sexually pressure women, including his ex girlfriend, Cynthia West.
03:31:51.000We streamed the two hour exclusive interview in the very beginning of tonight's show as the results were coming in.
03:31:57.000Again, this is an interview that has been seen millions of times now.
03:32:02.000But we have consistently, and you as well, Charles, you have confronted and questioned Congressman Massey over and over again about his hypocrisy related to the Epstein files and voting against our immigration border security bills.
03:32:17.000Stephen Miller, of course, called Thomas Massey out tonight.
03:32:20.000We can go ahead and play that clip as well.
03:32:22.000But I want to show some of your fantastic video confrontations and the great work that you did because we get so much shit from all members of Congress and we get so much shit from people in general.
03:32:33.000Like Speaker Mike Johnson won't even approve our hard pass to get a congressional badge because we hold everybody accountable.
03:34:26.000There's more clips as well, but we see the way that he is so dishonest in the way that he conducts himself.
03:34:31.000You know, this is a congressman who says tonight that he wants a unity party, he says.
03:34:37.000He says he wants a unity party, but then he's so disrespectful when he is challenged or When he's questioned, he doesn't even understand the timeframe from when a president has to get congressional approval, right?
03:34:51.000He doesn't even understand the concept of a strategic strike.
03:34:55.000And he tries to use snark and insults and humor and, I mean, just hubris and I'd say arrogance.
03:35:04.000I think that Thomas Massey is probably one of the most arrogant members of Congress, if not the most.
03:35:31.000Or that he went to the press conference where they were calling him a pedophile protector and they're holding up signs saying Trump's a pedophile protector.
03:37:23.000Who actually had the guilty conscience, Congressman?
03:37:25.000Yeah, and then all of the woke Reich, right, when these videos come out, they swarm us, right, because they have their bot networks, their Russian bot networks, and actual Russian bots.
03:38:12.000And why are they using our footage as a way to try to attack people who are voting against Massey?
03:38:19.000It shows you the internet's not real life, Twitter's not real life.
03:38:22.000And yes, it's a tool for getting your messaging out, but people in the real world are not sitting around like listening to Pakistani bots and neo Nazis.
03:38:31.000Talk about how they want to fuck the Jews and kill the Jews and how America is being controlled by Israel.
03:38:40.000And I guess, like, yeah, shout out to CNN.
03:38:41.000I don't know how that happened, but that was a fantastic clip of them saying, like, 91%, the monkeys are 91%, they're not humans, we're not voting for Massey.
03:38:59.000I don't know if you all saw it, but they wrote a community note on one of our posts that said, Massey didn't associate with Nazis because Reich isn't a Nazi word.
03:41:14.000We said that Massey is talking about his oven with a guy who we photographed who was wearing a Nazi sweatshirt and talking about his swastika.
03:41:24.000He wasn't just talking to like, The people like Ryan was talking to Massey, and Massey was interviewing him.
03:41:30.000He was specifically interviewed, he was invited.
03:41:35.000And tonight, during his concession speech, I'm sure you saw I was mentioning this to the congressman.
03:41:42.000Thomas Massey, one of the first things that he did in his concession speech is he and you can go and you can see the club.
03:41:48.000We already played the full concession speech for the most part.
03:41:50.000And before I had the congressman on the show tonight, you can go ahead and you can watch it yourself.
03:41:57.000Thanked all of the influencers who came to Kentucky for him.
03:42:00.000So he admits that he had to import influencers to knock on doors for him and to try to create this illusion that all these people were supporting his campaign because he couldn't find enough people in Kentucky to actually knock doors and do media for him.
03:46:34.000He started DMing me and messaging me and tweeting at me nonstop.
03:46:43.000And I'm getting some other updates right now coming in from some of the elections in New York, where I also exposed some Jew haters and some Islamic woke right individuals who were trying to sneak in on a school board in one of the most Jewish districts in America, in Syasa on Long Island.
03:47:05.000All three of the school board members who I exposed lost their election tonight.
03:47:12.000So we are rejecting these people who are trying to harass and intimidate American citizens who happen to be Jews.
03:47:21.000We are rejecting people who want to spread conspiracy theories about foreigners occupying our country in the terms of controlling our president.
03:47:38.000I don't want to sound like one of these leftists that goes around and accuses everybody that I don't like of being a Nazi, but we have to call this what it is.
03:47:46.000If we're not willing to address the actual problem that we have, just like we have anti white racism in America, we also have anti Semitism in America.
03:47:54.000We have a serious Jew hate problem in America, just like we have a serious anti white racism problem in America, which I've been calling out for years.
03:48:02.000We need to reject this because we can't allow for history to repeat itself.
03:48:06.000And as I was saying before, Before I got this update from Syasa tonight, Ryan Matta approached me three years ago.
03:51:27.000And so I've watched since October 7th a lot of the people that I've known.
03:51:32.000For 10 years, not saying I've known Ryan for 10 years, but people that I've known for 10, 12 years since I got started working in this industry just become completely radicalized, right?
03:51:43.000They've been completely radicalized and they've changed.
03:51:46.000And I think that everybody has realized over these last couple of years that there is a full radicalization effort going on because look, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Alex Jones, you name it, there are so many people out there who used to be normal.
03:52:03.000Right, they used to actually be normal people who we listen to, and now they've come like Candace Owens is one of them too.
03:52:09.000They've completely lost their minds, completely lost their minds.
03:52:13.000Like, I want to get people's opinions on this in the chat, but if you've noticed this foreign influence operation where people are being radicalized to hate Jews and basically become supporters of Islamic terrorist organizations, press one in the chat because I've noticed it, and I don't even have a lot of the same friends that I used to have anymore because these people that always loved me.
03:52:35.000They used to say that I was such a kind person, that I was such a good friend, that I was such a hard worker.
03:52:58.000Every day, that's what these people now say about me.
03:53:02.000And it's like, how did we go from me, you know, sending you a gift and being nice and, you know, us hanging out at political events and covering events together?
03:53:12.000Like, some of these people, how did I go from, You know, standing by Roger Stone when his wife was dying from cancer and she miraculously survived, to being at his house the day that the FBI raided his home, to Roger Stone writing articles about me, lying about me, saying I've been Baker acted, which is completely false, completely false.
03:54:36.000And so at the end of the day, when people try to say to me, Oh, you're having sex with somebody or you're trying to use your body or your looks to get somewhere, I mean, like, hello, I'm.
03:54:50.000Probably one of the most flat chested people you're ever going to meet in your life.
03:54:55.000I don't know what these people are talking about, right?
03:54:57.000I have no idea what they're talking about, Charles.
03:54:59.000But I bring this up because all of these people used to say things like, oh, you're so great, or you're pretty, or you're this, or you're that.
03:55:09.000There's so many videos of Roger Stone comparing me to Esther, saying that I'm a genius, saying that I'm a political savant, saying that I'm his mentor, saying that I'm one of the smartest people that he knows, saying that I could be a future president someday.
03:55:23.000I'm just saying, you could go and find the videos of Roger Stone saying things like this about me.
03:55:27.000And now he acts like I'm the worst person ever and wrote an article about me because people are either getting paid by Muslims or they have been totally radicalized by online influence operations to hate Jews.
03:55:38.000You don't just turn on your friends of 10 years like that without, you know, some kind of influence operation.
03:55:43.000Oh, yeah, there's something really weird going on, definitely.
03:55:47.000And yeah, I knew Ryan when he was normal, too.
03:55:48.000He like reached out to me, but I only talked to him like once or twice.
03:55:52.000But yeah, that was around the same time you did.
03:56:55.000I was president of College Republicans.
03:56:57.000So, it's not like I'm some random influencer online who just created a Twitter and now, you know, oh, I have a following and I just post stuff.
03:57:33.000I've known them, I've been at parties with them, I've been at events with them, I've been at professional meetings with these people, and they have completely changed their personalities.
03:57:42.000So Trust me, when I say that I think that all this Muslim money is being shuffled around all over the place, I know these people.
03:57:50.000I've been in rooms with these people before where they've said derogatory things.
03:57:54.000When I say derogatory, I mean like actually truthful too.
03:57:57.000The left would call it derogatory, but they would say, oh, let's get these Islamic immigrants out.
03:58:03.000Alex Jones used to do competitions on his show.
03:58:05.000You could even pull this up on YouTube about Somali Muslims.
03:58:09.000Like he used to say, oh, come up with a song.
03:58:19.000It was a whole competition, if you recall, if you were an original InfoWars viewer, and you could see that, you know, he had this competition for people to create a song mocking the Islamic Somali invasion of Minnesota.
03:58:36.000And they used to talk about the threat of Islamic jihad, how we have an Islamic caliphate.
03:58:40.000And now all these people want to talk about is the Jews and Zionism.
03:58:43.000You know, he's got Nick Fuentes on his show every fucking day, and he doesn't even talk about Islam anymore.
03:58:50.000He's best friends with Tucker Carlson.
03:58:52.000Tucker Carlson is going to the Middle East and areas making excuses for Tucker Carlson while he goes and he shills for Qataris and he shills for Saudis and he shills for Iranians.
03:59:02.000So, again, you can go watch these videos yourself and see all these clips.
03:59:06.000We have the video of Tucker Carlson saying he thinks that Iran should be bombed because it's a depraved society.
03:59:12.000But now he wants to act like Donald Trump is the Antichrist for saying that we should bomb Iran.
03:59:17.000All of these people have completely done 180s and changed their positions.
03:59:21.000And And don't think that members of Congress aren't doing the same thing.
03:59:25.000This influence operation runs very deep.
03:59:28.000Your favorite influencers online, your pundits, your friends, people in your community, people in your academic institutions, members of Congress.
03:59:37.000Look at Lauren Hobart, or as I like to call her, Horan Hobart.
04:00:02.000And now she's mocking people while she's talking to the pro Hamas, George Soros funded drop site news, saying things like, oh, well, I just think that's like ridiculous.
04:00:14.000That's a Zionist talking point about Sharia law.
04:00:16.000None of my constituents have ever come to me and said that they are anti Sharia law.
04:00:21.000I mean, we could even find this montage online.
04:00:23.000I've tweeted it, but it just goes to show you these people are liars.
04:00:32.000She said that Hunter Biden was a predator and that he was an alleged pedophile and a crackhead, and now she has him on the show.
04:00:38.000So here's the clip right here of Marjorie flipping on Islam.
04:00:41.000You can just see this montage for yourself.
04:00:43.000Just to show you, this is not organic.
04:00:46.000And so when I say, oh, Thomas Massey held a fundraiser with an Iranian Democrat Muslim billionaire, and this is why he's pro Islam and why all of his supporters now hate Jewish people and why they're spewing all these Islamic talking points, I'm not just saying these things.
04:01:02.000And it's happening, and people need to come to understand that your content and the information that you are consuming is literally being curated and influenced by Islamic regimes, terrorist organizations, and foreign governments, adversarial regimes, China, Russia, Iran, Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood, okay, Erdogan, Turkey, all these people.
04:01:55.000Let's go ahead first and play this Sharia clip with Marjorie so you can see the montage because she's one of Massey's best friends.
04:02:00.000And then you can go ahead and tell your story.
04:02:03.000But people need to see this, they need to understand what this is because.
04:02:07.000You're not going to when Thomas Massey gets up there and he says, Oh, I couldn't reach my opponent, Ed Gelrain, tonight because he's in Tel Aviv and they gave me a Tel Aviv phone number.
04:02:20.000That's him deflecting from the fact that he himself is a product of foreign influence and foreign money.
04:02:50.000That right there, we've had enough of it.
04:02:52.000President Joe Biden's being pushed around by the G Hawk Squad.
04:02:55.000So, members of Congress that are supporting terrorists, Hamas terrorists that are bombing Israel, you know, they want to put their hand on the Koran and be sworn in?
04:03:43.000And I have all the freedoms in the world to never have to bow to a religion that would force me to cover my body up and only see my eyes and my fingertips.
04:03:56.000And that is a major threat for all American women.
04:03:59.000And I think that's something that hits hard for all women.
04:04:03.000Anyone that is a Muslim that believes in Sharia law does not belong in our government.
04:04:10.000The bottom line is Sharia law is not compatible with America.
04:04:32.000This is a place where the men over there, they can have sex with anybody they want.
04:04:36.000They have sex with little boys, little girls, multiple women.
04:04:39.000They marry as many women as they want.
04:04:41.000They marry their sisters, their cousins.
04:04:43.000A Muslim takeover or possibly Sharia law.
04:04:46.000That is a great threat to every single American woman.
04:04:49.000And I'll maintain my right to say that I think Sharia law and women being forced to wear burqas is the greatest threat to our freedoms as American women.
04:04:57.000I am 100% opposed to Sharia law in America.
04:05:01.000100% unapologetically opposed to Sharia law in America.
04:05:06.000I got to speak with Marjorie Taylor Greene tonight, and I asked her one of the things I was worried about, which is all this Sharia law, Muslim concern I see on X.
04:05:26.000I will tell you, I do think there's a paid social media influencer campaign going on on X. If you want Islam and Sharia law, you stay over there in the Middle East.
04:07:36.000I probably caused, with my video interview that I did the other night of Cynthia West that was shared by the president, it probably made Thomas Massey drop at least five to seven points more than he would have.
04:07:47.000Like if you look at the polls from the day that I dropped the video, and you saw this too, Charles.
04:07:54.000And so I caught, we caused significant damage to Thomas Massey.
04:07:59.000And will you ever see the media give me any kind of credit, even though, you know, I received congratulations tonight from political consultants and all types of political people and people at the White House?
04:08:12.000No, because they're haters and they don't want to acknowledge people who are actually genuine and people who aren't a part of this paid influence operation while they gaslight everybody and they say that we are part of a paid influence operation.
04:08:27.000Send us your money because we would love to expand our operation here at Lumor Unleashed, right?
04:08:32.000Yeah, I mean, like, I just think it's really funny how we are accused of being part of a paid influence operation because if people understood how mean and lean this operation was, oh boy, they have no idea, do they?
04:08:48.000No, what's really funny, too, going on about this Massey story I was going to tell is when Massey asked me to lunch, it was after we asked him about his.
04:08:58.000Muslim donors who worked at Columbia University, who also cheered on President Trump's prosecution by Alvin Bragg.
04:09:07.000And the same Muslim donor, Dr. Reyes, complained that Columbia University wasn't Muslim enough while they were allowing the students to have pro Hamas riots during the Trump trial in 2024.
04:09:20.000She said, There need to be more riots.
04:09:24.000And this was who was donating to Thomas Massey, who He refused to give the money back to, and instead of saying, I'll give that money back, he said, Why don't you go to lunch?
04:11:31.000So he posted several posts today about Congressman Thomas Massey on True Social, but we are all patiently waiting to see what President Trump is going to be saying about.
04:11:42.000Congressman Thomas Massey losing his election.
04:11:46.000That's awful what Massey did today, by the way.
04:11:48.000He sent out that fake endorsement after he literally called Trump a pedophile, voted to strip his war powers away.
04:12:43.000So, Thomas Massey today decided to try to trick voters in a last minute dirty trick.
04:12:47.000So, during his concession speech, he was saying that they didn't do any dirty tricks.
04:12:51.000They actually did do a dirty trick because what Thomas Massey did was he used a Old endorsement that Trump posted about him from 2022.
04:12:59.000And he posted it in a text message and had it blasted out to people to make it seem like Trump had actually endorsed him instead of Eb Gail Rain.
04:13:06.000So President Trump posted this at 2 46 p.m.
04:13:10.000And he did this, of course, right before the polls closed because he was trying to trick people into voting for him today.
04:13:17.000Horrible Congressman Thomas Massey put out an old endorsement from many years ago of him by me, long before I found out that he was the worst congressman in the history of our country.
04:13:27.000I endorse Ed Gail Rain, a true American patriot, which Massey knows full well.
04:13:31.000So the statement that he put out is fraudulent, just like he is fraudulent.
04:13:35.000Withdraw your fake statements, Massey, right now.
04:13:38.000So President Trump was pissed, and rightfully so.
04:14:05.000So, when we got that fake community note about Reich not being a Nazi term, that happened at around the same time that text message got sent out.
04:14:14.000And then, obviously, I was talking to everyone else kind of involved in the race, and weird things were happening to them.
04:14:21.000Their posts were getting hit, which is weird community notes.
04:14:24.000So, it was definitely a coordinated operation of bullshit.
04:14:27.000Team Massey put together at 1 3 o'clock today.
04:14:31.000And what's really interesting about this is President Trump has not.
04:14:33.000Posted on his Twitter account in about 78 days.
04:14:36.000And so he actually took to his Twitter account because that's how concerned they were about what Thomas Massey did.
04:14:42.000And then Massey had the audacity to respond and be like, I don't care.
04:14:46.000And he literally reshared a text message on his congressional account.
04:14:49.000Like he was like, Oh, you mean this message?
04:14:52.000Ha, So he was like mocking Trump to his face.
04:15:29.000Let's take a couple more questions before we close out tonight.
04:15:31.000Again, if you missed the full interview of Cynthia West, who is Thomas Massey's ex girlfriend and a former congressional staffer for Victoria Sparts, On my Rumble channel, President Trump tweeted it.
04:15:44.000I mean, it has more views on X, of course, but I'm not really on YouTube.
04:15:50.000So if you're watching this live, though, please be sure that you're following me on Rumble, rumble.comslash Laura Loomer.
04:15:58.000Hit the green follow button and enable notifications on your phone.
04:16:54.000I feel like I play for an audience of one.
04:16:57.000And at the end of the day, if Donald Trump is happy with my work and Donald Trump likes the work that I do and Donald Trump sees me and he sees how hard we're working here at Loomer Unleashed, that's what matters.
04:17:07.000So all these petty people in the media, all these influencers and podcasters and podcastists who hate me because I'm Jewish or they hate me because whatever, I don't know why they hate me.
04:17:41.000I think that it's a great interview and you should all check it out.
04:17:45.000But it should have way more views than it does because the media intentionally suppresses this and they do this on purpose because they want to protect Thomas Massey because Thomas Massey is an obstructionist to Donald Trump and he's going to continue to be an obstructionist to Donald Trump.
04:18:23.000The people made their voices heard tonight.
04:18:29.000Foreign PSYOP, a foreign influence operation by Russians and Iranians and Chinese and Qataris and Turks to make you think that you are controlled by a foreign government.
04:18:59.000They voted in a primary election and it was only American citizens who voted.
04:19:03.000So If you're saying that there's no point in voting anymore, well, okay, then don't cry when people that you don't want elected get elected.
04:19:14.000You have to get out there and make your voices heard.
04:19:16.000I think one of Thomas Massey's most disgusting lies was oh, Israel's buying a seat.
04:20:07.000He had a fundraiser for Thomas Massey at his big ranch.
04:20:10.000Supposedly in California, it's like a $37 million ranch.
04:20:14.000And Joe Chiani, you can see here, Biden billionaire mega donor Joe Chiani faces ouster from own company over serious concerns about his conduct.
04:20:25.000So, what, Miriam Adelson isn't allowed to donate money or make her voice heard as an American citizen because she's Jewish, but an Iranian billionaire?
04:20:35.000So, Thomas Massey doesn't like Jewish billionaires, but he loves Muslim Iranian billionaires who were appointed to committees because they donated money to Joe Biden, allegedly.
04:20:46.000I mean, this was even the subject of a congressional letter.
04:20:49.000Scroll up to the very top of this letter.
04:20:51.000So, this is from the House Oversight Committee in April of 2022.
04:20:55.000Oversight Republicans slammed Joe Biden for awarding taxpayer money to his political donors.
04:21:01.000So, where's Thomas Massey calling this out?
04:21:04.000On September 2022, 2021, Joe Chiani, the founder and the chairman and the CEO of Massimo, was appointed to the President's Council in Science on Technology, PCAST.
04:21:17.000Donor contributing over $1 million to the Biden Foundation in 2017, $750,000 to the pro Biden super PAC Unite the Country, and $1 million to the Biden inaugural committee, in addition to receiving an appointment to PCAST.
04:21:31.000Mr. Chiani's company, Massimo, received nearly $3 million in federal government contracts since January 2021.
04:21:38.000In January 2022, committee Republicans also sent a letter to the International Development Finance Institution, IDFC, requesting information on Lucas Walton, another top Biden donor who was heavily invested in the company that received the largest government.
04:21:52.000Government loan in the history of IDFC.
04:21:56.000While Massimo received government contracts in previous administrations, Mr. Chiani's close ties to President Biden, including an appointment to a White House board, creates the appearance that he is benefiting from his political contributions.
04:22:09.000Mr. Chiani is not the only political donor to receive taxpayer money from this administration.
04:22:15.000Awarding lucrative government contracts to companies led by large Democrat donors is becoming a troubling Biden administration pattern.
04:22:23.000And raises questions about whether political contributions play a role in the decision to award federal taxpayer dollars.
04:22:30.000Given Mr. Keaney and Mr. Walton's history of political donations to Democrats, the government contracts and loans companies associated with them received raise questions as to whether the administration is playing favor with political donors.
04:22:41.000So, this is an Iranian who was at the subject of a House oversight investigation into possible and alleged pay for play.
04:22:48.000Go back to the New York Times, New York Post article about Massimo.
04:23:31.000President Biden is spending a five day vacation with his family at the $37 million estate of a billionaire donor whose appointment by Biden to a federal advisory board drew ethics concerns.
04:23:40.000With the White House describing the businessman as a friend, indicating he will stay for free.
04:23:45.000And you can see here that Joe Chiani was born in Iran.
04:23:49.000Go type in Joe Chiani Iran online and you'll see for yourself.
04:23:59.000Wikipedia doesn't matter, or you can see here.
04:24:03.000Go back actually, meet the Iranian immigrant.
04:24:05.000This is from Forbes, or you can even see on his own Instagram where he says, I was nine years old when I moved to the US from Iran.
04:25:24.000Chiani family gave $100,000 to protect Freedom Political Action Committee.
04:25:29.000That's a PAC that's used to support Thomas Massey and even showing how hypocritical Thomas Massey is while he bitches about Zionist Jews.
04:25:38.000Being involved in racism, Jewish billionaires like Mary Madelson.
04:25:44.000First of all, he loves Jewish billionaires when it helps him.
04:25:47.000Jeffrey Yass is the richest man in Pennsylvania.
04:25:49.000You could pull up an article about Jeffrey Yass.
04:25:51.000I reported on Jeffrey Yass during the 2024 primary because he's the largest U.S. shareholder of TikTok and he was one of Ron DeSantis's largest donors.
04:26:54.000We need to start embracing the Palestinians and campaigning with the Iranians and the Palestinians and the Turks and the Muslim Brotherhood.
04:27:01.000Like, these people are just so full of shit.
04:27:03.000They make me want to blow my brains out.
04:27:05.000Billionaire Jeffrey Ask linked to $16 million in donations to anti Muslim and pro Israel groups, which means he is anti Sharia, right?
04:27:13.000Sounds like a patriot to me when he's not donating to Ron DeSantis.
04:27:17.000But, you know, regardless of that, Thomas Massey says, Oh, well, I've got to go call my opponent, but my opponent's in Tel Aviv when he's actually in Kentucky.
04:27:42.000This one clip alone of his ex girlfriend, Cynthia West, telling me about how she really wanted to start speaking out.
04:27:48.000The reason why she wanted to go. public is because she saw that Thomas Massey started taking money from all of these Iranian Democrat Muslim billionaires like Joe Keaney.
04:27:57.000And that's when she freaked out and was like, whoa, this is so anti American.
04:28:03.000Otherwise, she was just going to be in silence.
04:28:05.000And we can find that clip and play it for you before we close out tonight.
04:28:08.000But again, these people are welcome to spend their money however they want.
04:28:12.000But how come he's only criticizing Miriam Adelson, who's a billionaire and a Jew and pro Israel, when Jeffrey Yass contributed to Thomas Massey's PACs as well?
04:28:21.000And he is also a billionaire and pro Israel.
04:28:53.000She said that he became angry when she declined some of his sexual advances, that he wanted to grudge her when she didn't want to participate in swinger activity.
04:29:04.000We're going to play this clip, but you'll hear it from her yourself.
04:29:08.000And then this is what we'll close on tonight.
04:29:09.000So if you have any questions, put them in the chat now because this is the last clip we're going to play tonight from our election night coverage.
04:29:15.000But everything I say, I back up with receipts.
04:29:33.000Four hours, four hours we've been live for.
04:29:35.000We've been live for four hours tonight.
04:29:38.000And the first two hours is my live stream interview with Cynthia that I have released the other day that President Trump shared on True Social that helped destroy Thomas Massey tonight in this election.
04:30:50.000Like, so when, no, I had my experience, and I probably would have sat with that because I have a lot of guilt and shame, and people are like, why was she still talking to him?
04:31:20.000Like, I am coming out recognizing, and we have a problem, right?
04:31:25.000We talk about wanting to give voices to the victims of the sexual harassment fund and all of that.
04:31:32.000Like, why would anybody come out and speak about what powerful people are doing to them when you see what happens to the People that do that because you've got this idea that if somebody comes out and they're a victim, that we're still like good and evil, black and white.
04:31:50.000Like life is messy and people are going to have past and people are going to be messy.
04:31:56.000And if people see something, they're like, oh my gosh, look, she failed her injunction, or oh my gosh, look, she's got this post or that post.
04:32:03.000Like they literally will try and delve through to find any reason to discredit you or dismiss your accusations.
04:32:12.000And so we've got a real issue with that.
04:32:14.000And so I knew that was going to happen.
04:32:16.000I didn't want to come out and do this.
04:32:17.000But at the same time, I love my country and I saw what was happening with like Joe Chiani, right?
04:32:24.000So for context, This is what I found because when I had stuff happen to me, I had some people coming to me and I knew because he had talked to me about kind of his Iranian connections.
04:32:35.000So, Joe Chiani, and this is my understanding from what I've read, and I think you've verified it.
04:32:41.000So, after the October 7th attacks in Israel, you had peace talks that were going on between Palestine and Israel, and they were progressing.
04:32:54.000But then you've got this Iranian born American, Joe Chiani.
04:32:58.000Who has deep ties to Democrat fundraising in a positive relationship with then President Biden?
04:33:08.000In fact, he had appointed him to some sort of scientific advisory board.
04:33:12.000And so Joe Biden even vacationed at his home for a week.
04:33:15.000Yeah, well, and that's where the talks fizzled out.
04:33:17.000So they were progressing until Joe Biden goes and stays there.
04:33:21.000And when that happens, it all fizzles out, right?
04:33:29.000Big donors, per my understanding, and it seems to be verified.
04:33:32.000I mean, I want to make sure that I'm talking carefully because I don't want to slander anyone.
04:33:38.000But per what I've seen for FEC reports and everything, he's at this fundraising event, and it appears that he is receiving money from these pro Palestinian folks and then also tweeting while he's there saying, Hey, we need to remove all aid and assistance to Israel.
04:33:57.000And so that doesn't look like someone who's American first and like isolationist.
04:34:02.000Like, you can't be like, oh, I don't want people getting money from APAC.
04:34:06.000Well, at the same time, you're taking money from the other side.
04:34:08.000Like, you need to be principled, right?
04:34:11.000And so, just so the viewers are aware, I did review, Lumor Unleashed did review the FEC records, and we did find that Joe Keaney has contributed to Thomas Massey.
04:34:33.000He appears to be Muslim from his social media activity.
04:34:36.000He did contribute contributions to Thomas Massey, and he has given millions of dollars to Democrat candidates and Democrat causes, including Joe Biden.
04:34:47.000And then there were some other family ties, too.
04:35:05.000Thomas Massey loves to bash Jews in Israel as a side note here.
04:35:10.000But what's really interesting is that if you look at the PACs that are supporting his campaign, one of the largest donors to this PAC that he's benefiting from is a man by the name of Jeffrey Yass, who is the richest man in Pennsylvania, and he is Jewish.
04:35:25.000And he's one of the largest shareholders in TikTok, right?
04:35:28.000So you have the China connection as well, another form of hypocrisy.
04:35:32.000But the biggest form of hypocrisy is that Jeffrey Yass himself, Donates a lot of money to pro Israel Zionist Jewish causes.
04:35:40.000So you can see online that Jeffrey Ass has contributed to pro Israel causes, Jewish causes.
04:35:46.000And Thomas Massey is one of the biggest benefactors of Jeffrey Yass's contributions through this PAC.
04:35:53.000And yet, Thomas Massey is talking about how Israel and Israeli donors and people that donate to Israel have too much influence in our elections.
04:36:02.000But he's more than happy to take money from people like Jeff Yass.
04:36:25.000And hopefully, the House Republicans will investigate his ties to the Iranians and why all of a sudden he's now going around spewing this toxic Islamic propaganda and being so openly hostile to Jews, which is exactly what the Iranians and the Palestinians do.
04:36:41.000And I showed you tonight how unprincipled and I showed everybody this week how unprincipled and really just how hypocritical Thomas Massey is and everything that he says and does.
04:37:02.000Casey Bush lost in Ohio to Vivek Ramaswamy and another blow to the woke Reich.
04:37:08.000Bill Cassidy just lost his election to Julia Letlow.
04:37:14.000You just saw tonight Thomas Massey lost to El Gilrain.
04:37:17.000And coming up in a couple of weeks, you're going to have right around the corner, just in a few days, actually, you're going to see John Cornyn lose his runoff election to Ken Paxton, who was endorsed by President Trump today.
04:37:30.000And then when we move on to the elections in Florida in August, you're going to see Dan Gilzerian lose, and you're going to see James Fishback also lose his election.
04:37:39.000And so the woke Reich is getting a history lesson.
04:37:42.000They're getting a history refresher because apparently none of these people took their middle school history class.
04:37:48.000They didn't take history classes when they were in elementary school.
04:37:51.000They don't seem to understand what the Second World War was, the Holocaust was.
04:37:55.000They don't seem to understand that thousands of Americans lost their lives fighting Nazism.
04:38:39.000This is about demonizing Jewish people.
04:38:41.000This is about creating conflicts between Jews and Americans to usher in Christlom so that ultimately the communists and the Muslims can create a godless society.
04:38:51.000And eradicate Christians, eradicate Catholics, eradicate Jews, eradicate all godly people and replace them with an Islamic fascist government, okay?
04:39:02.000An Islamic fascist government, an Islamic caliphate that is supported by Islamic commies like Zoran Mandami and Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.
04:39:30.000Everything I needed to learn about Islam, I learned on 9 11 when I was eight years old.
04:39:34.000And I understood what a mass murder was.
04:39:37.000I learned what a mass murder was when I was eight years old, when I was sitting eating my eggs at the kitchen counter.
04:39:44.000And my father, who's from New York City, turned on the TV and had to explain to me that Muslims flew airplanes into a building when I was eight years old and murdered 3,000 Americans who I got to watch on live television jump from burning Twin Towers when I'm eight years old.
04:39:58.000Okay, so everything I needed to learn about 9 11, I learned watching it live on TV as an eight year old child.
04:40:05.000I don't need to sit here and wonder, you know, what this cultural enrichment of having more, you know, Muslims and communists in my country is going to be like for me and my family and my future family.
04:40:18.000I think that we are all really, we all were supposed to understand what never again meant, right? 80 years ago.
04:40:38.000I don't even think they're teaching 9 11 anymore in schools.
04:40:42.000From my understanding, they don't even like teaching about 9 11 anymore because, well, you have to have that uncomfortable conversation about why Muslims decided to fly airplanes into buildings and kill 3,000 Americans.
04:40:52.000So we're in a dark place in this country, and it's important that we continue to call this out.
04:40:58.000There are foreign funded influence operations in our elections.
04:41:10.000APAC are American citizens who support Israel.
04:41:12.000These are not foreigners like all these anti Semite politicians want you to believe.
04:41:17.000Now, if we want to have a conversation or a debate about making APAC register to be a foreign lobby, we can have that conversation.
04:41:24.000But to demonize people, American citizens, and say that they are foreigners while they use their American money to influence elections, just like people do on a daily basis, I don't see Joe Keaney and all these Muslims getting berated every single day for putting their money into these elections.
04:41:39.000You got to eventually call a spade a spade.
04:42:02.000I have no idea why AIPAC campaigned against me.
04:42:05.000But when I ran against Lois Frankel, who's a self hating commie Jew, a Kapo Jew, when I ran for Congress in 2020, they campaigned against me.
04:42:15.000When I ran against Daniel Webster, who is a Christian man with Alzheimer's, I mean, walked around wearing a life alert button, supported the impeachment of President Trump.
04:42:24.000They supported the Christian man over me.
04:42:51.000But, you know, these people don't want to take responsibility for the fact that they are unlikable candidates and they don't have a platform.
04:43:00.000Thomas Massey doesn't talk about anything aside from Jeffrey Epstein and Israel.
04:43:05.000People are trying to put food on the table.
04:45:36.000Like some people find it to be very liberating where it's like, oh, why would you want to take your clothes off and go streaking across a football field, right?
04:46:04.000A lot of sororities and fraternities do this.
04:46:07.000And it's just, it's kind of the analogy that I have where you know you're not supposed to be doing it and you know that it's shameful, but you're doing it anyway and it's going to just give you a rush.
04:46:15.000I feel like a lot of these people know that they're not supposed to hate Jews.
04:46:19.000They're not supposed to openly express their hatred of Jews, but they get an adrenaline rush when they get to go on the internet with their burner account and say, Die, kike, die, die, you fucking cunt Jew, you fucking kike.
04:47:23.000And we have to see this election that's happening where you have an actual Nazi on the ballot talking about wanting to throw Jews in internment camps in the Democrat side of the aisle.
04:50:23.000Politics is a billion dollar a year industry that gets poured, money gets poured in from everywhere, not just Jewish people, you low IQ idiots.
04:50:43.000I really do not know half the time what these.
04:50:45.000People are saying to me when I read the comments or these questions.
04:50:49.000I genuinely try to answer people's questions and speak to everybody, and I'm fairly open minded, but I really just have such a hard time understanding where these people are coming from.
04:51:30.000And they say, Where does it come from?
04:51:32.000To be honest with you, I am really just not a fan of Islam, but I started to have intense feelings about Islam.
04:51:39.000And I really started to develop a serious hatred of Islam when I became targeted by Islamic organizations that lobbied the social media companies and the banking institutions to deplatform me for simply speaking out about Islamic terrorism.
04:51:52.000So, You know, if you didn't want me to hate you, you probably shouldn't have lobbied social media companies to ban me as a journalist and basically destroy me financially for 10 years of my life so that I wasn't able to have any money, have a bank account, not allowed to have any social media.
04:52:27.000Maybe when one of these Muslims or one of these Islamic organizations apologizes to trying to ruin my life for speaking out about getting thrown out of an Uber by a Muslim driver who saw me wearing a Star David necklace and physically threw me out of a moving vehicle with my friend on Rosh Hashanah,
04:52:47.000maybe when they approach me with a check for, I don't know, a couple million dollars, which is probably the amount of money I could have made with my talent and my platform over the 10 years or so that I was completely deplatformed.
04:52:59.000Maybe when one of these Muslims writes me a check, no questions, no strings attached for millions of dollars, and they say, Here you go.
04:54:06.000I already told you what my answer was, and I wouldn't have had 2 billion enemies if these people would have learned to be civilized and not tried to ruin my life because I spoke out about Uber hiring ISIS terrorists.
04:54:41.000Getting blacklisted everywhere while not being able to do my job as a journalist because I had no social media, because I was banned everywhere, not allowed to have social media as a congressional candidate.
04:54:53.000These Muslims love to act like they're so innocent.
04:54:55.000Why don't they talk about what they did to me?
04:54:57.000How come they don't ever try to give me compensation for what they did to me?
04:56:07.000Why is it that I still am banned on all these different apps and platforms and banking platforms and banks and financial institutions because I spoke the truth about Islam or I had some criticism of Islam?
04:56:37.000I don't hate Muslim people, but I really do feel like these organizations did me dirty.
04:56:43.000And if they wanted me to come to the table and try to resolve some of these issues, they should probably compensate me for what they did to me because they know what they did to me.
04:56:52.000And a lot of these different leftist and Islamic organizations know exactly what they did and they continue to lie about it to this day.
04:56:58.000And they should just come clean about it and be honest about what they did because we all know it's true.
04:57:44.000They've been under intense programming from this foreign influence operation since October 7th.
04:57:49.000And it's very alarming to see the personality changes some of these people have exhibited, the psychological changes they've exhibited over the last several years.
04:57:56.000So, with that, I just wish that these people would come to see the light and they would.
04:58:03.000Repent and try to make amends for the harm and the pain that they've inflicted on others over the last several years with their conspiracies and their lies.
04:58:11.000I don't think it's going to happen, but hopefully, people will see that Twitter's not real life after tonight, right?