Loomer Unleashed - EP194: FBI Foils Woke Reich Drone Terror Plot At White House UFC Event

00:23:53.000 There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.

00:24:03.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes. 1.00

00:24:09.000 Chained herself to shit. 1.00

00:25:01.000 and welcome to tonight's episode of Loomer Unleashed. 1.00

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00:25:30.000 Lots to talk about tonight.

00:25:32.000 But aside from the Iran deal, if you want to call it the Iran deal, at the top of everybody's mind today is this horrendous sounding terror attack that was supposed to happen, I guess, according to the FBI, on Sunday, the day that President Trump hosted the America 250 UFC event at the White House, where they reconstructed UFC Octagon.

00:25:59.000 And long story short, the FBI says that five people have been arrested.

00:26:04.000 We can go ahead and get the Article up on the screen here, but early this morning, around 5 a.m. or so, Kash Patel took to Twitter to announce that the FBI has arrested five people in connection with a drone attack plot against the White House UFC Freedom 250 Fest.

00:26:21.000 Now, you know, when I first saw this story, I thought, wow, hmm, are they jihadis?

00:26:26.000 Like, what are they?

00:26:27.000 Who's plotting a drone attack?

00:26:29.000 But then I started thinking to myself, wow, I remembered when Hassan Piker was on his show, and we've talked about this here extensively at Loomer Unleashed. 0.88

00:26:37.000 How Hassan Piker seems to be getting away with inciting and encouraging acts of terrorism, both domestic and foreign, as a jihadist Muslim communist. 0.57

00:26:48.000 And I remember an episode of his show where he was teaching people how to make drones, suicide drones for that matter, with parts that they could buy online, talking about how, oh, it's so easy. 0.90

00:26:59.000 I'm sure we could find the clip as well.

00:27:01.000 Hassan Piker, right? 0.53

00:27:02.000 Popular streamer, Muslim, who the Democrats, of course, are streaming, uh, campaigning with, and they're streaming their campaign events with him, trying to, Make themselves appeal to a younger generation, openly talking about how, oh, it's so easy to build drones. 0.51

00:27:18.000 It's so easy. 0.92

00:27:19.000 Why don't you start going after people in America who are billionaires? 1.00

00:27:23.000 And why don't we start killing the capitalists? 0.96

00:27:25.000 We have talked about this extensively here at Loomer Unleashed. 0.97

00:27:30.000 I've shown you the clips of him saying he wants the streets of America to run red with the blood of capitalists.

00:27:35.000 He doesn't care if billionaires die.

00:27:37.000 He doesn't care if Donald Trump dies.

00:27:41.000 Turns out that these five individuals were in a signal chat, according to this indictment by the FBI, which included 23 people.

00:27:51.000 23 people are in a signal chat.

00:27:53.000 Five of them plotted and were arrested for trying to attack the White House with drones.

00:27:59.000 And the indictment is pretty disturbing.

00:28:01.000 We can go through the article, and then I'll play this Hassan Piker clip because, you know, I'm not saying that Hassan Piker is to blame for this.

00:28:11.000 Commonality, right?

00:28:12.000 A pattern between the woke Reich and the radical left.

00:28:15.000 Something we've been talking about a lot here on Loomer Unleashed.

00:28:18.000 And I've been warning everybody, I said, eventually, eventually, you're going to have members of the woke Reich, you know, so called conservatives join forces with the radical left because they're going to find common ground on issues of classism and hatred for Jewish people and Israel.

00:28:35.000 And well, that is exactly what has happened.

00:28:38.000 You can go down and continue reading this article.

00:28:40.000 The FBI thwarted an explosive drone attack on Sunday's UFC Freedom. 250 event on the White House South Lawn and have already taken five people into custody.

00:28:50.000 The multi phase terror attack allegedly involving explosive laden drone aircraft to strike buildings in the vicinity of the event, sparking mass panic and driving the fleeing crowd towards a sniper team poised to pick victims off, the officials said.

00:29:04.000 A second wave of attackers had allegedly planned to storm the White House gate, the officials added.

00:29:13.000 Scroll up a little bit.

00:29:15.000 The plot was stopped cold on June 10th after investigators executed a search warrant in Cincinnati, where the first arrest was made.

00:29:22.000 FBI Director Kash Patel said in a statement.

00:29:24.000 You can continue scrolling down.

00:29:28.000 Some of the suspects traveled to Fredericksburg, Virginia on June 12th or 13th to make preparations for the attack.

00:29:35.000 Upon investigating a suspect's iPhone, authorities found at least 23 users of an encrypted chat app signal involved in discussing parameters of what could have been a devastating terror attack in the heart of our nation's capital.

00:29:49.000 A suspect told investigators the goal of the attack was to target capitalist elites.

00:29:54.000 Billionaires and politicians who received money from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, known as APAC.

00:30:01.000 Wow.

00:30:02.000 So, who is constantly talking about billionaires and the elites and politicians?

00:30:07.000 Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene just the other day was talking about the elites.

00:30:12.000 Candace Owens was talking about the elites, right?

00:30:15.000 Remember when she was talking down to our vice president, JD Vance, saying, Oh, well, you know, you notice that he's very elite.

00:30:21.000 He's elite while Candace walks around wearing, you know, $10,000 outfits and has two multi million dollar homes.

00:30:27.000 Then you have Tucker Carlson talking about AIPAC nonstop, Thomas Massey talking about AIPAC nonstop, Hassan Piker, Marjorie Trader Greene, Candace Owens, so be it.

00:30:38.000 All these woke right personalities.

00:30:41.000 And of course, the entire radical left, the entire progressive radical left talks nonstop about classism and the elites and AIPAC.

00:30:49.000 And so ultimately, you know, you have members of the Republican Party who want to use this and they want to use it in an election year, obviously, to say, see, look, I told you the radical left.

00:31:01.000 Is so violent.

00:31:02.000 This is why you have to vote for Republicans in the midterms.

00:31:05.000 And while I'm sure that some of the individuals within this chat, the 23 individuals involved, and we still don't have the identities of all five of these individuals who have been arrested, while I'm sure that some of these people may, in fact, have left leaning tendencies, I'm sure that a lot of them are also conservative, right?

00:31:26.000 I'm sure that some of them are conservatives or they may describe themselves as Christian nationalists.

00:31:32.000 In fact, One of the individuals did describe himself as a Christian nationalist.

00:31:37.000 And the reason I bring this up is because this hatred of Israel and this hatred of Jewish people and this kind of irrational like paranoia about APAC, even though there's a ton of countries that give money to, you know, try to influence our elections and APAC, these are American citizens, right?

00:31:55.000 So people falsely state that this is Israeli money.

00:31:58.000 These are American Jews, American citizens.

00:32:01.000 They're not all Jews, but a lot of them happen to be Jews who Support Israel.

00:32:06.000 But you actually have instances of politicians receiving foreign money and not disclosing this.

00:32:12.000 I mean, they should face consequences for this.

00:32:15.000 You have a lot of lobbies.

00:32:16.000 You have the Qatari lobby.

00:32:17.000 You have the Turkish lobby.

00:32:19.000 You have the Emirati lobby.

00:32:20.000 You have the Chinese lobby.

00:32:24.000 You have all types of foreign lobbies in this country who are, you know, injecting a lot of money into our universities and into the political system, trying to influence our elections and also buy off our politicians. 0.68

00:32:38.000 But the only one that people seem to want to talk about these days, because the GOP has done absolutely nothing to push back on the woke Reich and the cancer of anti Semitism that is spreading like a wildfire throughout the GOP, because some of the people running for president in 2028 have decided, unfortunately, that they would like to get the Greiper vote, the Nazi vote, the white nationalist vote, whatever it may be. 0.78

00:33:02.000 They've decided that they want to pander to Muslims and they want to pander to the worst of the worst that the so called GOP has to offer, even though these people are truly just. 0.72

00:33:12.000 National socialists, leftists, ultimately, they are now openly telling their viewers that they should be voting Democrats. 0.53

00:33:19.000 So I don't know what kind of conservative that sounds like.

00:33:21.000 Doesn't sound like a conservative to me.

00:33:24.000 But, you know, of course, this administration, which I support, right, they have not released the identities of all the individuals. 1.00

00:33:33.000 And I think it's really interesting because, well, right, the Biden administration released all the identities of the J6ers and they didn't care about privacy and they ruined everybody's life. 1.00

00:33:42.000 Even people, grandmothers, soccer moms, people who didn't even. 1.00

00:33:46.000 commit acts of violence.

00:33:47.000 And then meanwhile, our own FBI is keeping the names of some of these individuals, uh, a secret or they're not disclosing who all these individuals are.

00:33:56.000 And I say, why not just tell everybody who these people are so that we can start looking into their social media.

00:34:01.000 I guess one of them is an illegal alien.

00:34:03.000 So who knows what their ideology is?

00:34:06.000 Probably a leftist, but I saw a photo of one guy and his family said that they turned him in.

00:34:11.000 They actually reported him because, you know, he was a conservative and he, Uh, seemed to have very extreme religious views and he was obsessed with Jeffrey Epstein and he was obsessed with APAC and started pushing these, you know, these views and these lies that Donald Trump is controlled by Israel and that he's controlled by the Jews.

00:34:32.000 And so when I hear that, I'm like, wow, that doesn't really sound like a leftist talking point to me.

00:34:37.000 That sounds like your typical guest or your typical conversation on Megyn Kelly's show or Nick Fuentes' show or Tucker Carlson's show, or for that matter, even Candace Owens' show these days.

00:34:49.000 And we need to really have a conversation in this country about how the most extreme elements within both parties are coming together, right?

00:34:56.000 We call this horseshoe theory remains truly undefeated.

00:34:59.000 And this is a wake up call.

00:35:01.000 They said that they wanted, if you scroll up in this article, it clearly says that round two was to make everybody scatter, right?

00:35:09.000 Scroll up a little bit.

00:35:10.000 They wanted to make everybody scatter in a multi phase attack.

00:35:15.000 And they were going to strike the building.

00:35:20.000 And then have a sniper pick certain politicians off.

00:35:24.000 And so, according to this FBI indictment, they actually had photos of the APAC tracker in their devices.

00:35:31.000 And so, when they were deciding which of the politicians they wanted to kill or they wanted to shoot from a sniper's nest, they were identifying them based off of the APAC tracker, the track APAC account that's on X, which many members of the Woke Rack have seen Marjorie Trader Green repost this account before, I've seen Ro Khanna repost it.

00:35:52.000 I've seen Thomas Massey repost it.

00:35:54.000 I have seen people who are diehard Tucker Carlson supporters repost these graphics that is made by this APAC Tracker account, and you can find it online.

00:36:04.000 If you just type it in on X and you type in track APAC or APAC Tracker, you'll see these images, and they make it like a bounty, right?

00:36:11.000 They're clearly making these out to be like some kind of a tracker.

00:36:16.000 You see here, this is the official X account for APAC Tracker, which the FBI said they found some of these APAC Tracker.

00:36:24.000 Of flyers and mugshot photos that they use to target the politicians on the devices of some of these individuals who were plotting to commit a drone terrorist attack and a sniper terrorist attack at the White House.

00:36:38.000 So it says, tracking AIPAC and the Israel lobby's anti democratic influence on the United States.

00:36:43.000 Donate to our PAC, Citizens Against AIPAC Corruption.

00:36:46.000 So what's really interesting is they say it's the Israel lobby, when in reality, these are American citizens.

00:36:53.000 And I have no problem with people holding people accountable and documenting financing and You know, trying to identify where people's funding is coming from.

00:37:01.000 But what we've seen is there's a very provocative and violent way in which the APAC tracker is operated.

00:37:08.000 And you can scroll down and you can see the images yourself, right?

00:37:12.000 Um, they, they promote Islamic jihadist candidates like Abdul Al Sayed, who wouldn't, wouldn't issue a statement about the death of the Ayatollah because in his words, a lot of his constituents were feeling very sad about it.

00:37:26.000 Uh, they demonize people who, have taken money from Jewish individuals or donors.

00:37:33.000 They try to create this image and this lie that if you support APAC, and it's funny because I didn't even want to have to be in this position to have to defend APAC, but here I am.

00:37:45.000 And it shows that I actually have integrity because APAC campaigned against me in both of my congressional races.

00:37:51.000 They campaigned against me in District 21 when I ran against Lois Frankel, who is a Jewish Democrat incumbent, even though she is You know, basically an ally to the Hamas caucus in Congress.

00:38:04.000 I've never been anti Israel, so I don't even understand why AIPAC campaigned against me to this day. 0.91

00:38:08.000 I have no idea why they campaigned against me, but I've always been very concerned about this X account.

00:38:14.000 And I've talked about it on previous episodes as well.

00:38:18.000 I always said the way that these images and these flyers are created, they're like wanted posters.

00:38:23.000 And all it takes is one psychotic individual, like that guy, Elliot Rodriguez.

00:38:29.000 Remember Elliot Rodriguez, who showed up to the Jewish Museum? in Washington DC on my birthday one year ago.

00:38:35.000 And he shot that Jewish couple.

00:38:37.000 Remember, he shot them for no reason other than the fact that they were pro Israel and they were attending a pro Israel event randomly, didn't know who these people were, walked up to them and then shot the girl. 0.83

00:38:46.000 And then as she's crawling away, trying to, you know, fight for her life, shoots her again in the back. 0.96

00:38:51.000 I mean, these are crazy people who are clearly trying to incite violence. 0.86

00:38:57.000 And all it takes is one lunatic to see these flyers and they, they, they see the way that they're, created in a way with like dark red imagery to, you know, there, there's been psychological studies that have been done on, on colors. 0.93

00:39:11.000 And some studies show that red incites anger.

00:39:14.000 And so that's why there's an entire color palette for hospitals, for example.

00:39:20.000 Um, because there's this whole study about how certain people react to colors.

00:39:24.000 So purple, for example, and blues are supposed to be very calming colors.

00:39:28.000 And, uh, if you are in a hospital, you'll notice that like if you get sick or something or you have to go to the hospital, Or you're in an emergency room, the, the, the color of the walls are usually like an off white or like kind of like a gray or brown because it's supposed to be like a sedate color, right?

00:39:44.000 Like nothing that is going to really like invoke any kind of, you know, emotion, just something that is supposed to keep your blood pressure down.

00:39:52.000 You're never going to go to a hospital and see a bright red wall.

00:39:55.000 So the color red in these, in these studies is supposed to incite anger and it's supposed to get your blood pressure going.

00:40:01.000 And it's also supposed to create a sense of anxiety.

00:40:04.000 And so if you scroll down and you look at a lot of these APAC tracker flyers, They're all red, right?

00:40:10.000 Like they show them in a way where it's red in the back.

00:40:15.000 It kind of looks like splattered blood.

00:40:18.000 And it's like a microscope, like looking over the person, almost like they deserve to be poked in pride and investigated.

00:40:24.000 And you see that they just post all these flyers.

00:40:27.000 They make a lot of these flyers for different candidates, right?

00:40:29.000 And they try, they put it in a black and white photo so that they can try to make them have this like evil, sinister aura.

00:40:38.000 And it's done on purpose to villainize people who take money from APAC.

00:40:43.000 And clearly there are psychotic people out there.

00:40:46.000 And I take this very personally because I have to literally.

00:40:50.000 Put a panic button on my desk in my studio and people will say, Oh, why do you get so triggered by this?

00:40:55.000 Why, why does this bother you so much?

00:40:57.000 Why do you talk about these issues so much?

00:40:59.000 Because I have to spend thousands of dollars every single month out of my money that I wish that, you know, I could spend on other things, maybe investing into my life, investing into my family.

00:41:11.000 I don't know, just other things that I should be able to spend my money on.

00:41:15.000 And I have to spend my money on security, arm security, cameras, motion sensors.

00:41:22.000 Panic buttons that are literally connected to my local police department because so many crazy people out there have decided to normalize this idea that you are not an American citizen if you are Jewish in America. 0.52

00:41:35.000 And if you are a supporter of President Trump and you are Jewish, you are not really an American citizen, but you're actually a spy for Israel.

00:41:42.000 And as a result of these crazy lies and propaganda that is spread by people who retweet this insane account that really should be banned for incitement to violence, Twitter should literally ban this account and ban people who repost this APAC tracker account, not because they're talking about APAC, but because it is inciting violence. 0.73

00:42:02.000 I, I can testify to this because I've been victimized by this.

00:42:06.000 The police officers who interrogated the individual who tried to murder me in the state of Florida.

00:42:11.000 You can get this article pulled up literally told me that when they interrogated them and they asked them what inspired them to try to come to Florida to murder me or say that they wanted to come to Florida to murder me and several other Jewish individuals.

00:42:26.000 And he said that I was an Israeli spy and Israeli agent, is that he watched Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and Nick Fuentes.

00:42:33.000 This is what the police officers told me.

00:42:36.000 This is literally what they said to me.

00:42:38.000 And so, you know, when I see all this stuff and I see Tucker Carlson last week do an entire show talking about APAC, and then people make up lies about me and they Photoshop graphics.

00:42:48.000 There's been people that actually Photoshop my face on these APAC tracker graphics.

00:42:53.000 I've never taken money from APAC.

00:42:54.000 They literally campaigned against me in both of my campaigns.

00:42:56.000 Campaigns.

00:42:57.000 I don't, I was banned from attending an APAC event.

00:43:00.000 When I was a member of Congress, I showed up to an APAC event and I thought, oh, I was told, oh, you should go if you're a candidate.

00:43:06.000 Like it's, you know, good for networking.

00:43:08.000 You can meet people.

00:43:09.000 You can meet people at these events.

00:43:11.000 So there was CPAC and there was APAC.

00:43:13.000 I think this was like 2019 or 2020 when I was running for Congress.

00:43:19.000 I registered for the event.

00:43:20.000 And when I got to the door, I was on a blacklist.

00:43:23.000 They wouldn't even allow me into the APAC event.

00:43:25.000 I've never said anything anti Israel in my life.

00:43:28.000 And so, You know, you can see here, Florida charges Texas man over threats to Jewish conservative media figures.

00:43:35.000 And the suspect was charged with extortion, written threats to kill, and unlawful uses of a two way communication device.

00:43:41.000 And so I have to constantly live in fear.

00:43:45.000 I mean, really, I hate to say this, but I have to be open about this because, you know, people want to mock me and they want to say that I'm overreacting and they say, oh, why do you take this issue so seriously?

00:43:56.000 Because when you have to have a panic button in your house and in your bathroom and In your shower and in your bedroom and next to your bed and in your closet and every single room of the house.

00:44:07.000 And you know every single police officer's name pretty much in your area by name because you get so many people trying to come to your house, threatening to kill you because they have been convinced by conspiracy theorists online that you are some kind of Israeli spy or Israeli agent. 0.99

00:44:22.000 Then maybe you'll understand why I hate this shit and why I get so triggered when people do this because it's literally going to get people killed. 0.99

00:44:32.000 It's already gotten people killed. 1.00

00:44:33.000 The Party of Socialism and Liberation, their guy, Elliot Rodriguez, walking up to these people.

00:44:39.000 And I have to worry about this.

00:44:40.000 I have to worry about this.

00:44:41.000 I get harassed.

00:44:42.000 My family members get harassed, even though they're not even involved in, um, in politics.

00:44:47.000 My family members have received insane postcards in the mail, like with very violent imagery.

00:44:53.000 And I receive, uh, things in the mail and people try to show to my house.

00:44:57.000 They've tried to kill me.

00:44:58.000 People have been arrested.

00:45:01.000 Okay.

00:45:01.000 And have been charged for plotting to murder me because they believe these lies.

00:45:07.000 And so I'm just so sick of it. 0.62

00:45:09.000 I'm so sick of it.

00:45:11.000 And now, It is radicalizing people to the point where 23 people were radicalized enough to join a group chat on Signal, right?

00:45:19.000 Like, imagine how psychotic you have to be to say, you know, today's the day that we show these politicians who spoke at APAC or they got a check from APAC. 0.94

00:45:28.000 We're going to kill them at the UFC event for America 250. 0.98

00:45:31.000 We're going to drone the White House. 0.98

00:45:33.000 Like, this is what all of this rhetoric has done over the last several years since October 7th.

00:45:39.000 They have allowed for the most obnoxious and violent.

00:45:43.000 Voices to be amplified by the social media algorithms.

00:45:46.000 And now people's lives are directly in danger.

00:45:50.000 And so, you know, the Republicans can say, oh, well, this is the Democrats.

00:45:56.000 They're inciting violence.

00:45:57.000 No, it's your own people, right? 1.00

00:45:59.000 It's a lot of your own fucked up Republican people. 1.00

00:46:02.000 And I hate to say it, but there are a lot of fucked up people in the Republican Party. 1.00

00:46:05.000 There are. 1.00

00:46:06.000 And taking out the trash means taking out the trash in your own party. 0.87

00:46:10.000 And if people wanting to run for president in 2028 or people who are running for office in the GOP, Don't have the courage to actually call out the Nazi problem and the Jew hate problem happening in our country because the people that have tried to come to my house to murder me, they're not Democrats. 0.77

00:46:26.000 These are, these are conservatives.

00:46:28.000 These are conservative people.

00:46:30.000 I like to call them woke Reich.

00:46:32.000 This guy who tried to plot to murder me, who got arrested and extradited from Texas to Florida.

00:46:37.000 Yeah, he's not a Democrat.

00:46:39.000 He's a woke Reich conservative.

00:46:41.000 He's a woke Reich conservative.

00:46:43.000 I say conservative because really ultimately these people support national socialism.

00:46:48.000 And the horseshoe is complete because when you have conservative people who call themselves Christian nationalists or whatever the hell they want to call themselves, right, to justify their supremacy and to justify their campaign of hatred.

00:47:02.000 And I'm not saying that all Christians are like this.

00:47:05.000 Most Christians and Catholics I know condemn this type of behavior, but there's this virus that is trying to infect the Catholic church.

00:47:12.000 It's trying to infect Christianity and they have decided that they want to push Christ long. 0.93

00:47:18.000 They've decided these people, they've decided that The real alliance is between Christians and Catholics and Muslims, even though Muslims openly talk about how they want to kill the infidel. 0.93

00:47:29.000 So Jews are supposedly the enemies of America and the enemies of everybody in the Western world or around the world in general, according to these people. 0.98

00:47:39.000 But the Muslims chanting death to America are our allies now. 0.98

00:47:42.000 They're our partners, apparently, according to some people. 0.98

00:47:45.000 They're our partners and we're supposed to trust these people.

00:47:48.000 And we're going to potentially unlock billions of dollars for some of these people.

00:47:54.000 I think that everything I needed to learn about Islam, I learned on 9 11.

00:47:54.000 I don't know.

00:47:57.000 And at the end of the day, there's only two types of people that are really carrying out these threats of violence against me. 0.99

00:48:03.000 They're the jihadi Muslims. 1.00

00:48:05.000 And I get a threat assessment from my security company that I pay for thousands of dollars a month. 1.00

00:48:10.000 I have to pay in security.

00:48:12.000 And every single month, when I check my security threat assessment and I see, you know, 10,000 death threats against me, and then they say, you may want to upgrade to the next level because, you know, you're in a category where we think that somebody may actually try to take your life. 0.99

00:48:27.000 And I have to shell out even more money every single month to basically just stay alive in my own goddamn house. 1.00

00:48:33.000 Well, they're Muslims and they're members of the woke Reich. 0.99

00:48:36.000 They're, they're so called conservatives, right? 0.92

00:48:38.000 These are not necessarily Democrats.

00:48:40.000 So increasingly, as time goes on, it's not necessarily the radical left that is the threat to my life.

00:48:46.000 It's actually people in the GOP that are a threat to my life, people who the GOP refuses to condemn.

00:48:53.000 And seems like that was the case with this threat at the, at the White House the other day too.

00:48:58.000 So.

00:48:59.000 Yeah, we can blame the Democrats.

00:49:00.000 Woo! 0.60

00:49:01.000 We're going to blame the Democrats for everything.

00:49:03.000 And we'll just ride this wave until the midterms and blame the Democrat Party for everything.

00:49:07.000 But when I look at my threat assessment every single month, I see exactly who is talking about wanting to kill me from their little anonymous accounts. 0.97

00:49:16.000 And these are so called conservatives and Muslims. 1.00

00:49:20.000 So take that for what you will.

00:49:23.000 But it's increasingly clear to me that all these alliances with Muslim countries and Muslim individuals and The conservative movements continued whitewashing of Islam as if it's no threat to our country.

00:49:36.000 Uh, who do you think started this whole trend of calling people out for taking APAC money?

00:49:40.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:49:41.000 It's the Islamic lobby in America. 0.74

00:49:43.000 And they actually are, I call them Islamic lobby because they're funded by Turkey. 0.59

00:49:46.000 They're funded by Qatar. 0.87

00:49:48.000 They're funded by Muslim countries. 0.68

00:49:49.000 And well, now we clearly see that other countries, our adversaries like China and Russia are also getting in on the social media disinformation operation to rip America up. 0.94

00:50:01.000 Part because they found out that the quickest way to destroy Western civilization from within is to spread anti Semitism. 0.90

00:50:08.000 Because once anti Semitism takes over a society, their ultimate collapse is inevitable, right? 0.93

00:50:14.000 We've seen this throughout history over the years, over the last several decades and centuries, and that anytime anti Semitism spreads, it spreads like a cancer and it's this kind of like a necrosis that eats a society from within, and ultimately that society collapses.

00:50:33.000 You know, we see the way that RT, Russian state media, as I've talked about extensively on this show, tries to amplify a lot of these woke Reich podcasters now.

00:50:43.000 And you see the way that Dugan, right?

00:50:47.000 Alexander Dugan is coming to the defense of a lot of these woke Reich podcasters Megan Kelly, Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens.

00:50:56.000 Then you see Candace Owens travel abroad to Russia.

00:50:58.000 And now RT is talking about how they want to invite Marjorie Trader Greene to Russia.

00:51:03.000 It's not a coincidence.

00:51:04.000 This is not a coincidence.

00:51:09.000 And when you study about Russia, we're going to get into this tonight with my guest. 0.67

00:51:14.000 You start to see that a lot of these countries that like to pretend that they're Christian or that they're Christian nationalist nations, they have no problem selling out to Islamic factions to do their bidding or to do their dirty work or to help assist in the killing of their enemies, right? 0.53

00:51:30.000 Or their perceived adversaries. 0.70

00:51:31.000 And Russia is one of those countries.

00:51:33.000 And when I look at The way that this radicalization is taking place online.

00:51:40.000 It's hard to ignore the fact that a lot of this radicalization that is happening on social media is being amplified by foreign bot networks.

00:51:49.000 And of course, the first thing that Pam Bondi did upon taking office, being sworn in by Donald Trump last year, is she signed a memo that essentially got rid of FARA enforcement.

00:52:01.000 And so now you have all these adversarial nations, whether it be Russia or China or Qatar or Turkey, and they're taking advantage of the fact that there is basically no FARA enforcement.

00:52:13.000 And so you have all these foreign operations that are running wild online.

00:52:20.000 Members of the GOP seem to want to call out now is Israel, right?

00:52:24.000 They want to just call out Israel and say it's all Israeli, right? 0.61

00:52:28.000 Just ignore the fact that RT has basically transformed their entire news operation into a 24 7 clipping operation for the woke Reich. 0.57

00:52:37.000 Just ignore the fact that, you know, you have the Iranian lobby branding as rebranding themselves as the Quincy Institute and NIAC, and they're going around trying to give briefings to policymakers in Washington, D.C. Just ignore the fact that the Emir of Qatar is sitting next to Donald Trump today at the G7 summit talking about how, and there's a debate whether they said a trillion dollars or $19 trillion investment into our country, as if that's really going to work out great, 0.50

00:53:04.000 knowing that Qatar is one of the biggest sponsors of the Muslim Brotherhood and they fund Al Jazeera, which openly supports Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:53:11.000 And oh, wait, the Trump administration supposedly designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. 0.65

00:53:16.000 But meanwhile, every single Muslim Brotherhood 501c3 is still operating in America and hasn't had their status revoked, right? 0.92

00:53:23.000 So, so much for that. 0.81

00:53:24.000 But, You see firsthand how selective it is, and how a lot of people running for office now, like with aspirations, they like to gang up on Jewish accounts online for sport.

00:53:36.000 Like they'll never criticize Megyn Kelly or Tucker Carlson.

00:53:39.000 In fact, today our vice president went on the Megyn Kelly show. 0.90

00:53:42.000 She's another person that promotes APAC Tracker and tries to, you know, demonize APAC and rile people up, right? 1.00

00:53:49.000 Radicalizing people online. 1.00

00:53:51.000 They call her Grandma Groeper for a reason.

00:53:54.000 Because I think that D. Down these people truly do want somebody to die.

00:53:59.000 I really do.

00:53:59.000 I think that deep down, all of these woke right podcasters, they are not willing to pull the trigger themselves.

00:54:06.000 They don't have the courage, like Megan Kelly doesn't have the courage, and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, they don't have the courage to go out there and assassinate somebody themselves.

00:54:14.000 So I think that, like, deep down psychologically, and this is my opinion, of course, I think that they want to spread this really hostile rhetoric towards Jewish people and create all these conspiracies on their podcasts so that.

00:54:28.000 So, that the people that they hate and the people who they demonize the most, people like me, Mark Levin, and others, end up getting shot, right?

00:54:35.000 They wouldn't actually shoot us themselves, but I think that their goal is that, you know, they're hoping that they're going to be able to radicalize some whack job enough where they're going to say, yeah, all my problems in life are to blame on the Jews and to blame on Laura Loomer and to blame on Mark Levin and to blame on, you know, all these Jews in the media who the woke Reich says needs to be deported, even though they're US citizens. 0.93

00:54:57.000 And they're hoping that somebody ends up killing us.

00:55:00.000 And You know, it's hard to not believe this when their rhetoric every single week just seems like an obsessive streamline of anti Jewish and anti Israel rhetoric.

00:55:12.000 I mean, they don't talk about anything else aside from Israel.

00:55:16.000 And we're not going to win the midterms and we're not going to win in 2028. 0.78

00:55:20.000 All these people, all these people jockeying for the Nazi vote ahead of 2028. 0.56

00:55:25.000 And the reality is, none of you are going to win. 0.61

00:55:28.000 The Democrats are going to win at this point in time because the GOP has allowed for the woke Reich to take.

00:55:34.000 Over our party.

00:55:36.000 They are allowing for the woke Reich to completely undermine Donald Trump, to radicalize people to the point where they're willing to go and signal group chats and try to plot terrorist attacks against the President of the United States and Republican members of Congress for simply taking a check from AIPAC. 0.73

00:55:54.000 And then you expect the coalition to stay in shape.

00:55:57.000 You really honestly think that people like me and others are going to get out and vote?

00:56:01.000 You really honestly think that this is going to mobilize people to get to the polls and vote when you are creating an Unsafe country for people like me and others who have always been loyal to the president, have always been loyal Americans.

00:56:14.000 You think that you are going to really incentivize us to get to the polls when you are too cowardly to call out the woke Reich and you're too cowardly to put, you know, these people, these podcasters, podcastists, as I like to call them, in their place?

00:56:30.000 Hello?

00:56:30.000 I mean, these people, do they think that X is real life?

00:56:34.000 Is that what they think?

00:56:35.000 They think that X is real life and that all these people and their Pakistani bots and All their Russian and Chinese bot networks, are they going to go to the polls and vote for you on election day?

00:56:44.000 You need real people in the real world who are actually going to be mobilized to get out and vote.

00:56:50.000 And the reality is, is that when you do polling, you see that most people in real life don't hold these crazy extreme views that sound like your modern day recruitment slogan or recruitment video for Hitler Youth.

00:57:03.000 It's getting totally out of control.

00:57:05.000 And I'm getting really sick and tired of the GOP's refusal to call it out. 1.00

00:57:09.000 It's really pathetic. 1.00

00:57:10.000 It's quite cowardly, actually. 1.00

00:57:12.000 And it's really embarrassing being a part of a party where our own leaders, instead of actually calling it out the way that Trump called it out, right?

00:57:19.000 He called Tucker out.

00:57:20.000 He called Megan out.

00:57:21.000 He called Candace out.

00:57:23.000 Uh, other people who are, you know, high up in our government or people looking to run for office just don't have the moral clarity.

00:57:31.000 They don't have the courage to call any of these people out.

00:57:36.000 So for me, I'm sitting here thinking, well, they're either cowardly, which means they're never going to actually be able to effectively lead our country, which means I'm never voting for them.

00:57:46.000 Or it means that they actually do agree with it.

00:57:49.000 They do agree, which is why they never call it out.

00:57:51.000 They never condemn these people the way that Donald Trump has condemned them.

00:57:56.000 So it's a lot for people to swallow and to handle.

00:58:00.000 But I think that gone are the days of just blaming the Democrats for all of our problems.

00:58:06.000 I think that the GOP really needs to start taking responsibility for this very toxic culture that they are creating in their refusal to condemn a lot of these candidates that go around spreading this extremist rhetoric that is.

00:58:20.000 Literally radicalizing people to carry out drone attacks against the White House.

00:58:24.000 I mean, we already have a munitions crisis in this country, and I don't really think that we would be able to respond effectively to a large scale attack like we would have been able to, I don't know, maybe several months ago.

00:58:40.000 I don't know.

00:58:41.000 It just seems like people really are trying to egg on a very terrible violent attack in our country because why else would you be encouraging people to? 0.97

00:58:51.000 Kill elites, to kill billionaires, to kill people who are wealthy, to kill executives. 0.97

00:58:56.000 This all started with Luigi Mangione. 0.99

00:58:58.000 And we have the clip here of Hassan Piker.

00:59:00.000 Again, Hassan Piker campaigning with all of the Senate Democrats, talking about how easy it is for people to go out and build drones.

00:59:07.000 Where's the DOJ?

00:59:08.000 Why hasn't anybody indicted Hassan Piker yet?

00:59:12.000 What are we doing?

00:59:13.000 What are we doing over at the DOJ?

00:59:15.000 I mean, it's a joke.

00:59:16.000 It's an absolute joke of the DOJ.

00:59:19.000 It's an absolute joke.

00:59:20.000 I mean, what the hell have they actually accomplished in the last What is it, 15, 16 months?

00:59:27.000 What have they done at our DOJ to hold domestic terrorists accountable, right?

00:59:33.000 Oh, wow, we're going to designate Antifa.

00:59:35.000 We're going to designate Antifa after Charlie Kirk got shot in the throat.

00:59:39.000 Has anybody actually been arrested for being in Antifa since the designation?

00:59:44.000 Has anybody actually been arrested after Donald Trump designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization?

00:59:50.000 Has anybody been arrested?

00:59:52.000 Is anybody going to be arrested?

00:59:54.000 Or are we just doing this all for show? 0.52

00:59:56.000 Because as far as I'm concerned, Hassan Piker is inciting and aiding and abetting terrorism by encouraging his streamers to go out there and build.

01:00:11.000 How many more, how many more violent acts need to happen?

01:00:15.000 How many more people need to die?

01:00:17.000 How many more people need to be threatened? 0.99

01:00:19.000 How much more fucking money do I have to pay per month for my personal security in order for our DOJ to actually take this threat seriously? 0.99

01:00:27.000 Do I have to actually get a bullet in my throat like Charlie Kirk before somebody pays attention to the threats that I'm subjected to every day because our politicians are too cowardly to call out the woke Reich? 0.99

01:00:38.000 Do I have to get shot on my own front porch? 0.99

01:00:40.000 Is that what it's going to take? 0.70

01:00:41.000 Is that what it's going to take?

01:00:42.000 Do I have to actually, you know, get shot in the head in order for somebody to do something for our country, for our politicians to actually take these threats seriously and to stop normalizing all of this hatred? 0.98

01:00:53.000 What do I have to do to get, you know, these people in the fucking GOP to listen and actually do their job? 0.99

01:00:58.000 What do we have to do? 1.00

01:00:59.000 You know, which Muslim leader's cock do we have to suck in order for some GOP politician to pay attention? 1.00

01:01:08.000 Seems like that's the only way anything gets done anymore, doesn't it? 1.00

01:01:12.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip. 0.96

01:01:16.000 Again, that's a Shahhead drone. 0.99

01:01:18.000 Like, that's crazy. 1.00

01:01:19.000 Oh my God.

01:01:24.000 Bro, you really actually don't need, like, I was thinking about this with, like, the Afghanistan, the Taliban, Pakistan fight that was taking place.

01:01:37.000 And I was really thinking about this.

01:01:39.000 You really don't need suicide bombing anymore, you know. 0.87

01:01:43.000 Because, like, the Taliban guy was like, Oh, you have nuclear arms, but we have like suicide bombers, like, we'll just blow up your country with suicide bombers.

01:01:52.000 And it's like, You really don't need that anymore in drone warfare, right?

01:01:56.000 You don't need that at all. 0.98

01:01:57.000 Just make fucking drones, just you can purchase them from you know, you can purchase them in the online marketplace. 0.99

01:02:04.000 Like, China literally sells uh, like explosive ordnance delivery mechanisms that you can put to a DJI drone that you can purchase. 0.99

01:02:15.000 At virtually no significant cost in comparison to like, you know, sophisticated equipment that you need to put together.

01:02:23.000 So, I guess like you kind of at that point, you're doing that for the love of the game, right?

01:02:30.000 Like you're doing suicide bombing just for the love of the game.

01:02:33.000 Cause like you want to keep it old school.

01:02:37.000 Is that what it is?

01:02:38.000 Why is bro saying that?

01:02:39.000 I'm just saying it's like insane that I mean, this is basically, this is functionally what you could get away with if you.

01:02:47.000 If you've facilitated like a somewhat difficult to pull off suicide bombing strike, right?

01:02:55.000 And instead you're just using a shot head drone that's like what, $10,000?

01:03:03.000 I guess nobody in the DOJ can find it within themselves to hold Hassan Piker accountable.

01:03:09.000 We just have to talk about, oh my God, the Democrats are campaigning with Hassan Piker.

01:03:15.000 Let's just complain about everything, right?

01:03:18.000 Playing because we're allergic to actually taking action.

01:03:21.000 We're allergic to actually holding people accountable.

01:03:24.000 We're allergic to actually, you know, stopping violence, whether it's in the woke Reich or the radical left.

01:03:29.000 We're just not going to do it.

01:03:31.000 We're not going to do it.

01:03:32.000 We're not going to do it because we want these people to vote for us, right?

01:03:35.000 I'm telling you, there's a very violent future awaiting us in our country.

01:03:42.000 I just feel it.

01:03:43.000 I just feel like the radicalization that is happening online and the radicalization that is being excused by people on the left and the right, right?

01:03:53.000 It's not just the left, it used to be the left.

01:03:54.000 But now you see this even in the Republican Party, just people making excuses for woke Reich people, people like Thomas Massey trying to egg these people on, people like Marjorie Trader Greene.

01:04:06.000 People like Candace Owens, people like Tucker Carlson, people like Megyn Kelly.

01:04:10.000 And nothing is really being done about it because, well, everybody just wants to be friends with each other, right?

01:04:15.000 Everybody just wants to employ each other's family members.

01:04:18.000 And well, you know, I can't really condemn violence.

01:04:21.000 I can't really condemn Tucker calling Trump the Antichrist, even though that could really incite somebody, some religious fanatic to try to kill Donald Trump, which may have been what actually happened because some of these individuals who were scooped up by the FBI for participating in this drone attack look to be You know, religious fanatics.

01:04:40.000 So, if the GOP doesn't start to crack down on this, just imagine how bad it's going to be when the Democrats actually do take over, when the Democrats do win in 2028.

01:04:52.000 Because at this rate, the Democrats are on track to take the House, they're on track to take the Senate, and the Democrats are on track to win 2028.

01:05:00.000 And I don't know what the people who work for Donald Trump are telling him, really, honestly.

01:05:05.000 I don't know like what kind of bad intel they're giving him or, you know, what they say to him about these races, but.

01:05:11.000 I mean, the reality is, we are on track right now due to the GOP's refusal to codify the Save America Act, their refusal to codify President Trump's agenda, and their refusal to actually push back on the propaganda and the disinformation campaign that is happening right now.

01:05:29.000 We are on track to lose the midterms.

01:05:31.000 And so when you think, oh, well, people are going to vote Republican because, well, it's the Democrats that are inciting violence.

01:05:37.000 No, it's actually Republicans and Democrats who are inciting violence, and the GOP doesn't want to call it out because they Also, they want to pander for these people's votes.

01:05:47.000 So they're willing to let violent rhetoric and activity take place on social media.

01:05:55.000 And it doesn't matter who they target, what they say, it doesn't matter.

01:05:58.000 They don't care as long as they think that they can, you know, post something based about Israel, post something derogatory about Jews.

01:06:06.000 And yeah, I'm going to get their votes.

01:06:07.000 I'm going to get their votes.

01:06:09.000 And I'm going to make a segment of the population incredibly unsafe, you know, but it doesn't really matter at the end of the day because they just seem to care about getting votes.

01:06:18.000 Right, getting elected.

01:06:20.000 But it's not going to work out for the GOP because when you compromise your principles and when you compromise your values that much, people see through it.

01:06:29.000 And then people who actually are loyal sit home and they don't vote.

01:06:33.000 You're demoralizing people.

01:06:34.000 You're not giving people a sense of security.

01:06:36.000 You're not giving people a sense of safety.

01:06:39.000 And as a result, I predict that there's going to be a lot of self suppression in the midterms.

01:06:43.000 I think that there's a lot of people who feel like they're not being listened to.

01:06:48.000 And I'm not saying not being listened to by Donald Trump.

01:06:51.000 They're just not being listened to by their lawmakers.

01:06:54.000 They're not really taking these threats seriously.

01:06:56.000 I don't see anybody in Congress, really, for that matter, taking this seriously, taking the growing threat of violence all day long.

01:07:04.000 I just saw GOP members of Congress parroting this absolute lie that this drone attack was plotted by members of the radical left.

01:07:11.000 And the reality is, it's not.

01:07:13.000 It's not.

01:07:15.000 Some of these people would consider themselves to be right wing. 0.98

01:07:18.000 So when you have right wingers being convinced to, Take up arms to go and kill people at the White House. 0.85

01:07:25.000 You have a serious problem in your country. 0.95

01:07:27.000 You have a big problem.

01:07:28.000 It's an existential crisis.

01:07:30.000 And I think that a lot of this stuff, as we've seen, is being funded by Qatar, Russia, Turkey, Iran, and nothing is really being done about this.

01:07:42.000 And I think we all have really been subjected to foreign propaganda, whether it's Islamic propaganda or Russian propaganda.

01:07:50.000 And I wanted to bring in my guest tonight because we're going to be talking about this.

01:07:56.000 Andrew Moore is the editor, one of the editors of Loomer Unleashed, and also the editor of my newsletter, The Loomer Rumor.

01:08:03.000 And Andrew recently had the opportunity.

01:08:07.000 He was invited to go to Ukraine on behalf of Lumor Unleashed as a correspondent for a week, and where he was embedded in a war zone, right?

01:08:17.000 Actually having to take shelter in bomb shelters at some period of time.

01:08:21.000 And, you know, he went on this trip not for the purpose of going on vacation, but for the purpose of seeing things on the ground.

01:08:29.000 You know, we get a lot of news about Russia, we get a lot of news about Ukraine, we get a lot of news about the Middle East, and we're constantly told, like, what to think.

01:08:38.000 You know, who's good, who's bad.

01:08:40.000 And, you know, this, this network or this, you know, this show, my publication is neither pro Russia or pro Ukraine.

01:08:48.000 Um, you know, I have actually taken a lot of positions over the years and I still stand by this. 0.90

01:08:53.000 I've been very critical of our taxpayer dollars going to Ukraine.

01:08:56.000 I don't want my money going towards funding a war between Ukraine and Russia.

01:09:01.000 I just don't.

01:09:02.000 I've called for military aid to Israel to end as well.

01:09:05.000 I just don't want our taxpayer money going abroad to fund wars when.

01:09:10.000 Well, you know, we have a lot of issues here in the homeland.

01:09:12.000 And it doesn't mean that I hate Ukrainians.

01:09:14.000 It doesn't mean that I hate Russians.

01:09:16.000 I just don't want my money going to Ukraine.

01:09:20.000 But what is evident to me is that while I don't want my money going to Ukraine and I don't want my money going to a lot of countries for that matter, I also realize that this issue has kind of pit people against each other where they feel like they have to take a side where you're either pro Russia or you're pro Ukraine and you have to absolutely demonize the other side.

01:09:41.000 And You know, my perspective is you can recognize the human suffering that the civilians on both sides of this war are being subjected to due to the fight between Russia and Ukraine.

01:09:52.000 There's a lot of innocent Russians who have been killed, and there's a lot of innocent Ukrainians who have been killed. 0.53

01:09:58.000 But what is really evident to me is that, you know, while I don't want my taxpayer money going to Ukraine, I don't really see the Ukrainians right now running influence operations on social media with the woke Reich or trying to falsely accuse the president of being a pedophile or turning their entire state media. 0.63

01:10:16.000 Into some kind of propaganda arm for literal neo Nazis here in America. 0.64

01:10:22.000 And while I've been critical of, and, you know, Andrew may not agree with me on all of this, and that's his prerogative.

01:10:28.000 We'll bring him in to discuss this.

01:10:29.000 And, you know, some people may not agree with what I'm about to say.

01:10:33.000 You know, I think that Ukraine has their own Nazi problem, right?

01:10:36.000 Some people will deny this.

01:10:37.000 Some people will say that it's propaganda.

01:10:38.000 They'll say that it's not true.

01:10:40.000 But one of the biggest things that I had an issue with as an American, but also as a Jewish American, was finding out that my taxpayer money was.

01:10:48.000 Funding Ukraine, but specifically funding their Azov battalion, which is a neo Nazi battalion, right? 0.62

01:10:55.000 I mean, they have had a record of supporting Nazism. 0.73

01:10:59.000 And I think that this is an issue that, you know, we're seeing the rise of anti Semitism. 0.80

01:11:09.000 We're seeing anti Semitism be weaponized, not just on the battlefront, right?

01:11:13.000 In the war between Russia and Ukraine, you have Putin talking about how he needs to denazify.

01:11:19.000 Denazify Ukraine.

01:11:21.000 But what's really interesting to me is just how we fall for a lot of this propaganda.

01:11:25.000 And I know I've received a lot of criticism.

01:11:28.000 And so I want to say this in the most eloquent way, but I also don't really know how to say this because it's kind of embarrassing in a sense that a lot of us, and especially myself, feel like we have been victimized by Russian propaganda. 0.91

01:11:42.000 And when I hear Putin say we need to denazify Ukraine, I say, wow, yeah, actually, that is pretty accurate. 0.63

01:11:49.000 They do have Nazis that our taxpayer dollars are funding.

01:11:52.000 But what really kind of shocked me to my core is at the same time seeing how Russian state media, and I started to realize this over the last six months or so when I started.

01:12:02.000 You know, I always followed the RT account.

01:12:04.000 RT used to invite me on the program starting in 2020.

01:12:07.000 They used to say, Oh, come on.

01:12:09.000 We see that you've been deplatformed.

01:12:10.000 We want to talk about social media censorship.

01:12:13.000 And they would criticize, right?

01:12:14.000 They would appeal to my motions, my feeling of rejection by, you know, my own political party and the mainstream media here in America.

01:12:22.000 And I feel like it was, uh, like a full blown psychological operation, right?

01:12:26.000 Just to kind of show you how I personally fell for Russian propaganda.

01:12:30.000 And, you know, when I was deplatformed and when I, When my election was rigged because the big tech social media companies wouldn't allow me to have access to social media, RT started reaching out to me and asking me to come on their show.

01:12:43.000 And they said, Why don't you have a byline on RT?

01:12:46.000 And you can even write for RT.

01:12:47.000 I never took any money from RT, I was never paid.

01:12:50.000 But I felt, Wow, how crazy is it that my own government won't allow me to?

01:12:55.000 They're not fighting for me when the big tech social media companies are deplatforming my campaign and they're not allowing me to have a voice, but RT will let me talk about these issues, right?

01:13:03.000 And then you start to get kind of goaded into saying things like, Oh, well, Maybe they care more about free speech than my own country.

01:13:11.000 Or, wow, Putin made a comment about how they stole the election with mail and ballot fraud.

01:13:16.000 And so you make comments that are pro Putin. 0.58

01:13:20.000 And I made a lot of those comments. 0.59

01:13:21.000 I said, wow, he's 100% right about needing to denazify Ukraine.

01:13:25.000 And I recognize that I said, wow, he's openly criticizing the big tech social media companies for rigging the election against Donald Trump.

01:13:33.000 And while I'm glad that he said those things, part of me wonders did he actually mean it?

01:13:39.000 Or is this part of the psychological operation to try to?

01:13:42.000 Co op the right after 10 years of being told that there was Russia collusion and, you know, a Russian interference scandal in our elections.

01:13:52.000 And then we all got Russia fatigue and we started to, like, get really sick and tired of people who would constantly attack Russia for everything.

01:14:00.000 And a lot of us just became overly sympathetic to Russia and we put the blinders on because we just thought that, oh my God, anytime anybody mentions Russia, well, this means that, you know, they're trying to spew propaganda against Donald Trump and the conservative movements.

01:14:16.000 And they're calling us Russian bots.

01:14:17.000 They called us all Russian bots, remember?

01:14:19.000 And I remember even confronting Jack Dorsey during the Twitter hearing.

01:14:24.000 And I said, you know, we are not Russian bots.

01:14:26.000 We are conservative Americans.

01:14:28.000 And you started to sympathize with the Russians because they would call people like me a Russian bot.

01:14:34.000 They would say that we were not real people.

01:14:36.000 We were part of a Russian bot campaign to support Donald Trump's 2016 campaign against Hillary Clinton.

01:14:43.000 But now, when I see them say things like, we need to denazify Ukraine and we need to continue our brutal war with Ukraine.

01:14:50.000 While they pretend to be, you know, some Orthodox Christian country, but they're slaughtering thousands, like hundreds of thousands of young Christians in Ukraine.

01:15:00.000 And then they're supporting actual neo Nazis in the United States of America by clipping their podcasts.

01:15:06.000 I'm like, wow, we fell for Russian propaganda.

01:15:09.000 And I fell for Russian propaganda.

01:15:11.000 And so when Lumor Unleashed had this opportunity to send a correspondent abroad to Ukraine to be embedded on the front lines of the war and meet with Ukrainian officials and There were multiple U.S. senators there at the Odessa Security Conference.

01:15:28.000 And Andrew asked me whether I would approve a correspondent to go to Ukraine.

01:15:34.000 I thought about it for a while and I was really hesitant to do so because I thought, what are people going to think of me?

01:15:41.000 I've been so anti Ukraine for so long and I have parroted these talking points thinking that I was saying the right thing and not recognizing how, as a conservative or as a Trump supporter or just as an American citizen, how I was being emotionally manipulated by propaganda online.

01:16:00.000 And so I felt a little embarrassed to be completely honest, sending a correspondent abroad because I thought, well, people are going to attack me and they're going to say that I'm a hypocrite and they're not going to be gracious and they're not going to give me an opportunity to change my opinion or to at least open my mind and try to have my opinion changed or at least see the other side after being force fed so much anti Ukraine news for the last two or three years.

01:16:29.000 And so ultimately, I sent Andrew and Andrew spent a week there.

01:16:33.000 And I wanted to bring Andrew on the program tonight.

01:16:36.000 Because we have so much footage and so much content from Ukraine.

01:16:39.000 And I've learned so much.

01:16:41.000 I haven't been to Ukraine myself.

01:16:43.000 I'm planning on going.

01:16:44.000 Eventually, someday, I would like to go.

01:16:47.000 Someday, I'd like to go to Russia as well.

01:16:49.000 But I personally think that I would probably be jailed if I went to Russia for criticizing their propaganda operation here in the United States.

01:16:57.000 I am not so confident that I would be jailed or targeted with violence if I were to go to Ukraine.

01:17:03.000 That's just something that's been going through my mind lately.

01:17:06.000 I thought, well, if I went to Ukraine, would I ever go to Russia?

01:17:09.000 And, you know, I would visit both countries.

01:17:11.000 But I feel like I would have to be more worried about being held hostage or being held as a prisoner if I were to ever visit Russia, because I don't know how they would respond to me criticizing their government for running these very obvious disinformation operations and amplification campaigns on social media.

01:17:28.000 So I've been thinking about it a lot lately.

01:17:31.000 And, you know, some, I don't know if I really should regret some of the things that I previously said, or maybe I should just move on and try to open my mind going forward.

01:17:39.000 But this is kind of the first step in doing that.

01:17:41.000 So I wanted to welcome Andrew Moore to the program tonight and wanted to go through his experience and allow him to talk to you about what it was like going to Ukraine as a conservative and as somebody who now works with Lumor Unleashed.

01:18:00.000 Yeah.

01:18:01.000 Well, it's a pleasure to be here.

01:18:04.000 And thank you so much, Laura, for all of your work on this issue. 0.61

01:18:09.000 Over the last few weeks and really over the last few years, I will say to a T, everyone on the government side, the civilian side, was very happy to see Laura Loomer, Loomer Unleashed there as a brand, as a presence, because they believe, the Ukrainians believe, that really the truth and the facts on the ground are on their side, right? 0.58

01:18:36.000 So they sort of want everybody to come there and see. 0.61

01:18:41.000 And observe what's going on, and there's none of this leading you around, uh, like they do in Russia with Tucker or Candace, where you have KGB handlers kind of bringing you to these Potemkin villages and things, and like in North Korea or something, and the grocery stores and the subways and everything that we're supposed to be told.

01:19:02.000 I'm not doubting that there are beautiful locations in Russia.

01:19:06.000 I mean, look, there are parts that look beautiful.

01:19:08.000 I always said maybe someday I would want to, I have ancestry on both sides, right.

01:19:12.000 I actually have Ukrainian ancestry and I also have Russian ancestry.

01:19:18.000 I do.

01:19:19.000 And so I always thought, well, maybe I'll visit both countries someday.

01:19:24.000 But honestly, I think that the way that I have been targeted, I've been openly critical over the last few years about Ukraine.

01:19:33.000 I mean, that's not a secret, right?

01:19:35.000 People clearly have seen what I've said in the past, and a lot of MAGA has been very critical of Ukraine.

01:19:42.000 I wouldn't say that I've been hypercritical of Russia until recently when I noticed that RT, like Russian state media, which is operated by the Kremlin, started posting woke Reich influencer attacks on me.

01:19:55.000 And I started to think it was so bizarre because, one, Why would a Russian state media, why would the media of a foreign government be so focused on trying to target like certain citizens in America?

01:20:09.000 And why are they strategically using their social media to amplify the anti Trump and anti American commentary coming out of some of the most popular right wing podcasters in America?

01:20:22.000 And some people will say, like, oh, well, what prompted you to send a correspondent abroad?

01:20:26.000 This is what did it.

01:20:27.000 This is really what did it.

01:20:28.000 I got so intrigued.

01:20:30.000 By why these woke Reich podcasters were partnering with a foreign media entity to attack Donald Trump and to attack conservatism and to attack America and attack Israel and attack me, I decided to send my own correspondent to see what was going on in Ukraine. 0.71

01:20:47.000 Yeah. 0.74

01:20:47.000 Well, it was truly an eye opening experience. 0.74

01:20:53.000 And really, the reason to go is because, like with so many other issues, what you actually see on the ground isn't what you're seeing.

01:21:01.000 Very online here in the United States, or what you're seeing in some of the mainstream news reports.

01:21:08.000 And one of the reasons for that is it's just so difficult to present the full picture of what's going on after the full scale invasion in Ukraine in a way that comes across the way it should.

01:21:26.000 This is a war that spans a number of different fronts the information warfare with all of the West, humanitarian.

01:21:37.000 Disasters with the human rights abuses that have been perpetrated.

01:21:42.000 Bucha is one of those examples.

01:21:44.000 There are many, many other examples.

01:21:48.000 This is a war across the religion where over 700 churches and synagogues have been attacked or destroyed throughout the war.

01:21:58.000 I saw just the other day, I think it was yesterday or the day before yesterday, Russia fired a drone at the oldest standing church in Ukraine.

01:22:10.000 Terrible.

01:22:11.000 And then they want to talk about how they're a safe haven for Christians. 0.71

01:22:13.000 And what's really interesting to me, too, is how RT and just Russia in general, but especially their state media, they seem to be amplifying in conjunction with the Turkish media and the Chinese media and the Qatari media.

01:22:29.000 I've noticed that there's this whole access going on here and the Iranian media.

01:22:33.000 And you'll have like Al Jazeera quote tweet an RT clip, or you'll have like a Muslim Brotherhood pro Erdogan account retweeting.

01:22:41.000 The RT account, right?

01:22:42.000 Or you'll have Iranian state media on X retweeting RT or RT retweeting Al Jazeera, right?

01:22:49.000 Or vice versa.

01:22:50.000 And I find this to be so fascinating because in doing so, I've noticed that all of these various like foreign media companies, they are pushing this narrative of the woke Reich that, that like Judaism is a cancer, that evangelicals are a cancer, and that, oh, there needs to be an alliance between. 0.93

01:23:15.000 Christians and Muslims.

01:23:17.000 And when I started seeing RT retweet propaganda like this about Christ's law, it also made me want to investigate Russia's relationship with Islam and the Muslim world a lot more.

01:23:30.000 And I think that's also been part of my great awakening over these last couple months is that I've really come to see firsthand. 0.65

01:23:38.000 I mean, I always knew that Russia was allied with Iran, but I guess it wasn't until I started digging in deeper that I realized just how phony this whole religious war, this holy war that our adversaries are trying to. 0.99

01:23:51.000 In sight here in the United States of America through propaganda and through division, and especially all of these social media accounts like the APAC tracker account and the radicalization that is happening on social media, that I realized just how full of shit these people were. 0.98

01:24:09.000 They like to say, Christ is king online and that they are protecting Christians, that they are protecting Catholics, that they are preserving Christianity in the world. 0.99

01:24:20.000 But in reality, they're actually mass murdering Christians, they're supporting the mass murder of Christians. 0.92

01:24:25.000 And they're allied with actual Islamic jihadist organizations that also pledge their allegiance to mass murdering Christians and non Muslims. 0.98

01:24:35.000 That's absolutely right.

01:24:37.000 And the attack you spoke about was against the monastery of the Lavra, which is actually older than the nation of Russia.

01:24:45.000 It's probably the holiest site in Ukrainian Orthodoxy in that part of the world.

01:24:52.000 And they blew up part of the altar.

01:24:56.000 This was something that has been brought up before.

01:25:00.000 By Russia in negotiations, giving the Russian Orthodox Church access to the Lavra. 0.57

01:25:07.000 And now they go and blow it up.

01:25:10.000 We actually visited the night I was there, one of the nights I was in Kyiv. 0.93

01:25:16.000 There was one of the most massive aerial attacks of the war with hundreds of Shahed drones, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles hitting all over the city.

01:25:26.000 You could hear the explosions, you could hear counter air fire. 0.50

01:25:31.000 All the way down in the bunker I was in.

01:25:34.000 And the next morning, we went and visited wreckage around the city.

01:25:39.000 One of those sites was an evangelical church that was completely exploded in the middle of it.

01:25:46.000 A cruise missile had hit it, and the damage was extensive.

01:25:52.000 We walked all around the remaining facility perimeter and then in the actual sanctuary part.

01:25:59.000 To many Americans, this would be.

01:26:02.000 A familiar site.

01:26:03.000 If you've ever seen Joel Osteen on television, you see how he has the screen behind him and things.

01:26:09.000 That's kind of how their church looked.

01:26:11.000 I grew up in an evangelical, non denominational church as well.

01:26:15.000 It looked very, very familiar to me.

01:26:18.000 And the pastor there that we spoke with walked us through all the different areas of the church.

01:26:24.000 I mean, inches away, there was their kindergarten area, there was their area where they do media for the church.

01:26:33.000 These are like office rooms.

01:26:36.000 Around where it was struck.

01:26:38.000 I asked him what his message was for the president, and he said he wants, and others had said this as well they want President Trump to be the peacemaker in this terrible full scale invasion, which now has gone on past World War II.

01:26:56.000 And when we left that facility, I told the pastor, you know, thank you so much for showing us around.

01:27:04.000 We took lots of pictures, lots of videos, and heard a lot of Stories from him and others.

01:27:10.000 And I said, I'll pray for you, which in the United States, very common for us to say.

01:27:15.000 And he said, No, you can do.

01:27:17.000 Far more than that.

01:27:18.000 That's not what I want.

01:27:19.000 And that is honestly a response I've never received ever in person, online.

01:27:25.000 And it sort of broke my heart, but I think it also speaks to the seriously desperate situation that Christians, also Jews, are in in Ukraine.

01:27:38.000 You cannot be an evangelical in Russia.

01:27:42.000 I mean, they do not allow it.

01:27:45.000 Russia, you know, if you look all the way back to Soviet times, The Soviet ideology after the Tsars replaced religion, right?

01:27:55.000 So it became a religion of the state.

01:27:58.000 So Lenin basically became the prophet, basically became God, with the Kremlin being where his relics were located.

01:28:08.000 And then they even took all of the religious holidays and turned them into state holidays and made up weird traditions, all kinds of things, which anyone who's lived in Eastern Europe.

01:28:20.000 Still remembers all of those things because they were all subject to it.

01:28:24.000 And then today, what you see Putin doing is using the Russian Orthodox Church and the patriarch there as a way to launder his own misinformation and use it for legitimacy and cultural, sort of traditional legitimacy, which some in the West, your Candace Owens, your Tucker Carlson, see and they say, oh, this is great.

01:28:48.000 And then they use the example of President Zelensky.

01:28:51.000 Taking action against some of the Russian Orthodox churches that had spies within them.

01:28:58.000 And there's actually two different kinds of versions of the Russian Orthodox church.

01:29:03.000 But, you know, to say that he's depressing religious freedom.

01:29:08.000 And nothing could be further from the truth.

01:29:11.000 We went to the closest we were to the front line was in the Kherson region in the rear area.

01:29:19.000 We visited a village called Yakovlevka.

01:29:22.000 And this was an area that was completely flooded. 0.57

01:29:26.000 By Russians and another one of their targeted kind of humanitarian attacks when they blew up a dam and flooded all the fields, flooded all these villages, and it poisoned all the water. 0.78

01:29:37.000 So these villagers had no water, just regular people walking around.

01:29:42.000 And so we were surrounded by minefields everywhere because this was an area that had been liberated by the Ukrainians after the Russians took it.

01:29:50.000 And we were inside one of these buildings and were all of a sudden in a church service and didn't realize all these people were waiting there.

01:30:00.000 For us to begin church.

01:30:02.000 And they were so happy to see Americans.

01:30:05.000 They were so happy to see people who were paying attention to their story because they feel, I think, forgotten.

01:30:13.000 I think that they feel like they're isolated.

01:30:17.000 This is an area that's difficult to get to.

01:30:20.000 The roads are really, really bad.

01:30:23.000 And all around us, like I said, is pretty dangerous.

01:30:26.000 There's anti aircraft guns.

01:30:28.000 You know, you pass by.

01:30:30.000 Throughout, we were right next to the largest post Soviet grain silo, something that looks like it's from Kansas or Iowa or West Texas or something, and it had tank shells blown through it.

01:30:43.000 Every building we walked by had 762 bullet holes through it.

01:30:48.000 So, a place that had experienced massive, massive amounts of combat.

01:30:52.000 Many of these people, probably all of them, have lost family members, but they still haven't lost their faith, their resilience, their strength, and they still live there.

01:31:04.000 And I think.

01:31:05.000 One of the most striking things, whether you're in a small village or a large city, is that everyone in Ukraine today is there for a purpose, right?

01:31:16.000 There is a heightened sense of reality, a heightened sense of being that I have never experienced before, where everyone in an entire country is there for a reason because so many of them could have left.

01:31:31.000 Many of them have gone in fault on the front lines, but most people.

01:31:37.000 Want to see their country be free and they take great pride in their cultural heritage, their history.

01:31:45.000 Separate from.

01:31:46.000 Did you feel safe while you were there?

01:31:48.000 Because I noticed the entire time that you were there and we were in different time zones because when you were in Ukraine, I was in Alaska.

01:31:57.000 And so we kept on missing each other.

01:31:59.000 And then I was also on a cruise ship because this was the week, the week that you decided to go to Ukraine was the week that I was in Alaska.

01:32:06.000 And so I was in the middle of the ocean and I didn't really have much cell service, right?

01:32:11.000 The Wi Fi wasn't that great either when I was in Alaska because I was on a ship in the middle of the water.

01:32:11.000 I couldn't.

01:32:18.000 So, I mean, I would get these messages from you and sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and, you know, I check my phone and the service is very sporadic when you're on a ship.

01:32:30.000 And I would see these messages from Andrew, like, oh my God, we're in a bomb shelter right now.

01:32:34.000 Oh, explosions are going off.

01:32:36.000 Did you feel safe there?

01:32:38.000 Because, you know, you obviously went on a pretty adventurous trip and were, is this just, What it would be like if anybody were to visit, hearing bombs go off or seeing drone striped buildings?

01:32:50.000 Or were you specifically, like when you talk about the concept of a war zone, would you describe the entire country as a war zone?

01:33:00.000 Or would you say that you specifically went to an active war zone in the areas of Ukraine that you visited?

01:33:07.000 It's a great question.

01:33:08.000 And it's one of the most difficult things to communicate about the invasion, right?

01:33:13.000 Is the level of threat and being in that environment.

01:33:18.000 Because you'll see people shopping and eating at restaurants, and then an air alert will go off, sirens all over the city.

01:33:26.000 Everyone's phone is going off with a loud alarm. 0.68

01:33:30.000 And then, when that happens, what everyone does is they take to several telegram channels because the Ukrainians are very, very good with their technology at seeing where these drones and missiles and ballistic missiles are directed within the country. 0.59

01:33:45.000 And so they'll pay very close attention to that.

01:33:48.000 I mean, usually, after you would hear an air raid siren go off, You'd see everyone on the street looking at their phone trying to see where something is going, what is being launched.

01:33:59.000 After the first couple of nights, so we began in Odessa, which is right on the Black Sea, and Crimea is across from there at this conference. 0.87

01:34:09.000 And the first night, I mean, we heard counter UAVs destroy Shahed drones coming into the city.

01:34:19.000 Generally, when there's a large conference like this that involves U.S. senators, U.S. diplomats, Russia is hesitant to launch a massive strike. 0.68

01:34:29.000 That's not always the case.

01:34:31.000 There is a video of the Greek prime minister who had a bomb explode right next to him during a visit and it nearly killed him.

01:34:40.000 It could have killed him.

01:34:41.000 And so you can imagine what the consequence of something like that would be Russia killing a foreign head of state in Ukraine.

01:34:49.000 So it's not perfectly safe, but there are shelters that people can go to.

01:34:55.000 I was told if you see people in the street running that you should also run.

01:35:01.000 But it was nerve wracking during the large scale attack in Kyiv, which is the primary target.

01:35:07.000 So you can see all of these maps and all of the incoming.

01:35:12.000 And that night, when all of the missiles are being launched, it kind of stopped around maybe.

01:35:20.000 4 30 a.m.

01:35:22.000 And then later on, I fell asleep in the basement shelter at 7 a.m., went to my room and heard massive explosions outside, which were hypersonic missiles, Zircon missiles that were used.

01:35:37.000 And this is a tactic to kind of let people think it's over.

01:35:42.000 And these ballistic missiles, which Ukraine can't intercept, I think they intercepted zero out of eight or nine of those ballistic missiles that night.

01:35:54.000 They will explode.

01:35:55.000 They will go off before a siren even goes off, oftentimes.

01:35:59.000 So that's nerve wracking.

01:36:01.000 You do not know where they're going to go.

01:36:04.000 You think, oh, they're not going to target here or there.

01:36:07.000 But these missiles are rushed through production in Soviet style to meet Kremlin production guidelines.

01:36:15.000 There was a story today on how all their gyroscopes are faulty and they land hundreds of meters from their target so they can truly hit anywhere.

01:36:24.000 And that part is concerning.

01:36:28.000 And of course, it's only a small taste of what people in Kyiv, people in these other areas have to experience on a daily basis.

01:36:35.000 This will happen in the morning when people are bringing their children to school.

01:36:39.000 I mean, intentionally, that is the point.

01:36:42.000 And they hit schools, they hit hospitals.

01:36:45.000 We went and visited a hospital that was destroyed that night, lots of homes that were destroyed.

01:36:50.000 There's some particular areas of the city that have been hit far more than others.

01:36:56.000 You have some videos, so let's go ahead and start showing some of the videos.

01:36:59.000 So I know you have the order of them.

01:37:02.000 So, which video should we go through first?

01:37:06.000 I think if we were to start with the video of just the kind of high rise view of the explosions in the city, you'll see more of what I'm talking about in Keith.

01:37:16.000 What the hell is that?

01:38:23.000 Andrew Moore, reporting for Lumor Unleashed.

01:38:25.000 Behind me is the city of Kyiv, where a little while ago you heard air raid sirens go on.

01:38:30.000 There were several missiles headed this way that got intercepted.

01:38:33.000 So, overall, it's a pretty quiet night here, unlike just a couple nights ago, where everyone was hunkered down in bunkers, underground, under buildings, in the subway here, to try and stay alive while an onslaught of missiles were incoming, including about eight of Russia's most advanced hypersonic missiles, which all connected.

01:38:57.000 With their targets.

01:38:59.000 You also at that time heard Patriot missiles shooting.

01:39:03.000 You heard anti aircraft gunfire.

01:39:05.000 Truly a harrowing experience.

01:39:07.000 But for the citizens of Kyiv and of Ukraine, this is just a small taste of what they've been going through here during the full scale war since it started.

01:39:18.000 You also saw today an important development with Ukraine striking facilities in St. Petersburg while Putin was putting on his Russian version of Davos.

01:39:32.000 With Alexander Dugan and Candace Owens.

01:39:35.000 So while they were going into this conference, there was black smoke everywhere, and they had to see Ukraine's response to their terrible strikes a couple of days ago, which destroyed a hospital here and a church, residential buildings, and other things.

01:39:56.000 Ukraine is still very much in this fight and has effective long range strike capabilities. 0.87

01:40:04.000 Which their strike today in St. Petersburg shows is very real and effective.

01:40:20.000 And you filmed the footage.

01:40:22.000 Was that the view from your hotel balcony when all of those drones were being fired?

01:40:28.000 Yes.

01:40:29.000 The first one was from the top floor of the hotel.

01:40:33.000 And the second one was in an adjacent area that a friend of ours had sent us where they saw all those cruise missiles.

01:40:41.000 Those were either cruise missiles or hypersonic missiles exploding. 1.00

01:40:47.000 The Shaheds, you would hear it. 1.00

01:40:50.000 They kind of joke about this. 1.00

01:40:52.000 Ukrainians have sort of a morbid sense of humor, which I appreciated. 1.00

01:40:58.000 But there's like a lawnmower sound and a weed eater sound to some of these things, and they kind of know which one it is. 0.98

01:41:06.000 And those types of munitions, they have a much harder time shooting down, which is why you saw today President Zelensky, after meeting with President Trump at the G7 summit, talk about more Patriot missiles.

01:41:22.000 It's the only system.

01:41:24.000 That can really shoot down all of those types of ballistics.

01:41:29.000 And a part of that deal might include actually producing Patriots in Ukraine where it's much cheaper to do.

01:41:38.000 President Zelensky said that he had conversations with Raytheon, the manufacturer of Patriots, to do that.

01:41:47.000 And I think you look at just the amount, the sheer amount of Patriots that they're using.

01:41:55.000 With what America produces on a yearly basis.

01:41:58.000 It just doesn't keep up and it wouldn't keep up in one of our own fights.

01:42:03.000 And I think that is perhaps the biggest lesson of this trip is, you know, if you remove the word Ukraine from the conversation and you look at what is in this fight for the United States, what does an America first foreign policy look like with or without aid to Ukraine? 0.73

01:42:22.000 And I think what it looks like is benefiting from using their UAV.

01:42:29.000 Technology, both offensive drones and military drones.

01:42:32.000 Yeah, and from my own research into this as well, it seems that Ukraine produces over 7 million drones a year and America produces 300,000.

01:42:43.000 And obviously, with the new Arsenal of Freedom Tour at the Pentagon, there's now incentives for smaller companies that are more efficient and can also make drones or make missiles cheaper, faster, in a more innovative way.

01:43:00.000 And so, you know, we have a record investment thanks to Pete Hegseth and President Trump $1.5 trillion, right?

01:43:08.000 $1.5 trillion.

01:43:10.000 How much does it cost?

01:43:11.000 I mean, do you have any kind of assessment as to how much Ukraine spends per year on manufacturing their 7 million drones and just the quality of those drones compared to drones that are, let's say, manufactured by the United States?

01:43:25.000 Because one of the biggest issues right now with missiles, especially in the aftermath of the Iran war, which Today, you know, we were told the war is over.

01:43:37.000 I have my doubts. 0.99

01:43:39.000 I don't really trust the word of jihadist Muslims. 1.00

01:43:42.000 So we'll see how long the war is over for.

01:43:44.000 But, you know, for all, for the purpose of, you know, just kind of entertaining, you know, the foreign policy that's being put forth by President Trump and JD Vance right now, saying that the war is over, right?

01:43:57.000 Like, let's just say that that's, you know, that's the case.

01:44:00.000 And the Iranians are going to respect whatever this MOU is.

01:44:04.000 We've yet to see the actual terms of the MOU.

01:44:07.000 One thing that I know people are talking about in the Pentagon right now, and I've seen this firsthand as a Pentagon correspondent, but also just chatter from my own sources in the administration is the growing munitions crisis, right, that the United States is facing.

01:44:24.000 And also just the crisis with regards to our own reduced Patriot missile supply because of the war with Iran.

01:44:33.000 So, how fast can Ukraine produce these drones and missiles compared to the United States?

01:44:40.000 And Uh, would it be beneficial for the United States to, uh, have this partnership with Ukraine or is the quality decreased because they're, you know, producing significantly more, uh, than, you know, than, than Americans? 0.56

01:44:53.000 And I imagine that there's probably higher standards and more regulations here in the United States. 0.76

01:44:58.000 You were just talking about how the Russians really aren't that precise and the precision's off. 0.71

01:45:02.000 And so there's not really as much accuracy as opposed to maybe a manufactured, uh, a drone or a missile that's manufactured here in the United States.

01:45:10.000 So, What is the reliability and in terms of the cost breakdown as well?

01:45:18.000 What's the cost analysis?

01:45:20.000 That's a great question.

01:45:22.000 I asked this exact same question while I was there visiting some of the UAV factories and the ground vehicle factories as well.

01:45:34.000 And the price ranges from the low thousands to kind of the mid tier, which is maybe more around.

01:45:43.000 $30,000, $40,000.

01:45:45.000 And then up from there for those higher tier types of drones that I don't think they use much.

01:45:51.000 The drone units themselves, mobile drone offensive units, which we do have a picture here with the one that has kind of the spread out.

01:46:02.000 It's a fixed wing type of drone with a group behind us.

01:46:08.000 So that drone is an offensive drone.

01:46:12.000 We were there with the team.

01:46:14.000 It's a mobile offensive drone unit team, and it took them very little time to set that up.

01:46:21.000 It was incredibly lightweight.

01:46:23.000 I mean, you could hold it with one hand.

01:46:25.000 It costs about $30,000, which is on the high side, but it's extremely effective and it's reusable, right?

01:46:32.000 So this drone actually drops different charges on the enemy.

01:46:37.000 And we saw the charges, we held them, we talked to the unit about them, and the charges themselves are made specifically for each purpose.

01:46:46.000 So is it a hard target?

01:46:48.000 Is it a soft target?

01:46:49.000 Is there a roof?

01:46:49.000 Is there not a roof?

01:46:51.000 And this unit has been incredibly, incredibly successful at destroying tanks, at destroying units positioned within houses, obviously, units out in the open.

01:47:03.000 They're able to launch these very, very, very quickly and efficiently, carry a number of them with them to basically any location where they can launch them and then recover them as well.

01:47:15.000 And they have countermeasures on them.

01:47:18.000 I won't reveal what that is here.

01:47:19.000 But they have countermeasures to know when they're under threat as well from Russian counter UAV fire.

01:47:29.000 And so that's an offensive capability.

01:47:32.000 And we talked to their commander, who's been featured in all kinds of television ads in Ukraine and other kinds of recruitment tools, which is an interesting thing.

01:47:43.000 Each brigade in Ukraine actually runs their own ads across the country to recruit.

01:47:48.000 So it's different than the U.S. Sort of entrepreneurial, you want to get the best people, you have the best sort of marketing campaign.

01:47:56.000 And he was very bullish on this drone, on its capabilities, and said they've used many of them before.

01:48:05.000 And this one has been super effective, but they're always testing and trying out new things.

01:48:09.000 And so you talked about American drones.

01:48:12.000 And as far as I know and observed while I was there, there's only one effective American drone that is used.

01:48:19.000 It's the Hornet drone.

01:48:21.000 I believe that that is a U.S. company, I forget the name, that manufactures it.

01:48:27.000 The rest are.

01:48:29.000 Ukrainian companies that have grown up and been able to produce these things at an astounding rate.

01:48:35.000 And the most important thing for the operators is that they have closed feedback loops with the manufacturer, right?

01:48:41.000 So that they can say, we found this problem.

01:48:45.000 It takes too long to set it up.

01:48:47.000 It's too heavy.

01:48:48.000 It's too light, whatever it is.

01:48:50.000 And American defense primes are just not set up to do that and to take that sort of feedback.

01:48:56.000 And so when we talk about this $1.5 trillion, which is Sorely needed rebuilding our military after years of decay under President Biden, the greatest military in the world.

01:49:10.000 But this is the cutting edge of warfare, and we're seeing that some of that money.

01:49:16.000 Well, not just the degradation, but also to kind of the depletion.

01:49:20.000 So, a lot of this, and this is what one of the criticisms of Ukraine was, and I think this is why a lot of Americans have negative feelings about Ukraine as opposed to just, you know.

01:49:32.000 Well, we're giving too much of our taxpayer money away.

01:49:35.000 It was the fact that a lot of defense analysts and national security officials warned the Biden administration that we were depleting our own missile supply and we were depleting our own munitions.

01:49:50.000 And I think they got to the lowest point ever, really, in modern day times underneath Joe Biden, if I'm not mistaken, at the height of the Ukraine war, because he had depleted our supply so much.

01:50:02.000 And, you know, this is something that even President Trump highlighted on the campaign trail.

01:50:07.000 And it was kind of a rallying point for conservatives.

01:50:11.000 I mean, look, it's a legitimate criticism.

01:50:13.000 I'm not saying that this is propaganda, but this has been going on for so long now.

01:50:19.000 And, you know, I think that it was Putin that said that he didn't want to sign any deals.

01:50:25.000 And it was Putin who wasn't looking to end this war anytime soon, even though President Trump, from the beginning of his administration, has presented multiple deals.

01:50:35.000 And he has tried to negotiate deals.

01:50:38.000 He offered to fly abroad.

01:50:40.000 He said that he would go to Ukraine.

01:50:42.000 He said that he would go to Russia.

01:50:44.000 The president of the United States has been very, very accommodating.

01:50:48.000 He met with Zelensky at the Vatican.

01:50:52.000 And this has just gone on for too long.

01:50:54.000 And so I think that there is a lot of justified anger by the American people because of the way that our country and our tax dollars and also our own. 0.98

01:51:06.000 Missile supply has been used as a piggy bank for the Ukrainian people. 0.93

01:51:11.000 But I also think that what I've noticed, especially paying more attention to this over the last year, is that the Russians are very good at tapping into emotions. 0.85

01:51:22.000 They're very good at exploiting the anger of the American people, especially the anger of the MAGA movement. 0.61

01:51:30.000 And I think we need to take a step back and sometimes think about how our emotions are being exploited and how our emotions are being weaponized because if What happens if an adequate and America First agreement can be reached, especially as it pertains to our own drone supply and drone manufacturing?

01:51:53.000 But the public sentiment towards Ukraine continues to remain so negative that you can't even get Americans on board with supporting their own national security, right?

01:52:02.000 Or supporting their own rearmament or supporting their own, like a mutually beneficial drone production agreement.

01:52:10.000 What happens if the negative public opinion towards Ukraine becomes so great that you're able to convince the American people to be against their own national security?

01:52:23.000 Right.

01:52:23.000 So I start to think of it.

01:52:24.000 I start to think of it in terms like that more recently, because it's very easy to simply go out there and say, yeah, I hate Zelensky or I hate Putin or I hate Russia or I hate Ukraine.

01:52:36.000 But now that the United States is facing its own missile shortage and its own munitions shortage, you have to really pay a lot more attention to how this propaganda is designed to create constant anger so that the American people, I think, kind of subconsciously without even realizing it, Are setting themselves up to be attacked by our adversaries, right?

01:52:59.000 And this is kind of what this is really what jolted me to my core over these last several months because then I started to see Putin and Alexander Dugan entertain the idea of selling nuclear weapons and just selling missiles and selling drones to the Iranians for the sake of attacking the United States of America and attacking Western nations.

01:53:21.000 And that, for me, is a wake up call, and it has been a wake up call.

01:53:26.000 Call and when people say, Wow, what happened?

01:53:29.000 How did she wake up one day and all of a sudden she decided to change her opinion?

01:53:34.000 And I think getting that was enough.

01:53:35.000 That was enough.

01:53:36.000 That was enough for me, honestly.

01:53:38.000 Seeing how all these endless wars were depleting our own supply of weapons and how our adversaries were taking advantage of those wars, I started to think, Well, maybe this isn't just about acquiring more territory.

01:53:38.000 That was enough.

01:53:52.000 Maybe this is actually their strategy of prolonging conflict at the same time.

01:53:57.000 While they support each other for the sake of depleting our own resources, because we're like a piggy bank and we're so generous to people all around the world, you know, always coming to people's rescue, so that maybe then they could join forces together to attack our own nation and to, you know, destroy America standing as a global superpower and usher in multipolarity. 0.52

01:54:20.000 And when I started to see their willingness to, you know, call themselves a Christian country, talking about Russia, of course, here, and to talk about how they're such a safe haven for religious protections and, you know, You saw Tucker Carlson talk about this ridiculous concept of Globo Homo. 0.53

01:54:39.000 And I hate to even go here, right?

01:54:42.000 But just the absurdity and the theatrics of it all, I thought there's no way that people could actually fall for this propaganda when they're watching these interviews with Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens.

01:54:52.000 And then I started thinking to myself, well, what is the purpose of talking about a concept like Globo Homo?

01:54:58.000 Well, you're clearly trying to tap into people's religious convictions, their religious views.

01:55:05.000 Their faith, their concept of morality.

01:55:08.000 And, you know, that's when it becomes very dangerous, is when you're able to convince the American people that other countries have a higher standard of morality or they're more righteous or moral or, you know, they're more democratic, right?

01:55:25.000 Or that they're more hospitable to people of your, I guess, your specific ideology, whether it be your, you know, religious ideology or your political ideology.

01:55:40.000 You start to, and again, it's a total psychological operation.

01:55:45.000 And I can't believe I didn't see this sooner.

01:55:48.000 You really start to see how this is all designed.

01:55:51.000 It's a form of information warfare to make people subconsciously hate their own country and desire, you know, living life or experiencing life in another country.

01:56:04.000 And that's the whole purpose, right?

01:56:06.000 We were sold these interviews as innocent interviews.

01:56:10.000 Oh, Tucker's a journalist.

01:56:11.000 He's a journalist.

01:56:12.000 He worked for Fox News.

01:56:13.000 He's just going to Russia.

01:56:14.000 Oh, he's just talking about how beautiful the subways are and how amazing the grocery stores are.

01:56:20.000 But it's really supposed to make you hate your own country to the point where you would sympathize with an adversary if they were to attack our country.

01:56:29.000 So they want to get Americans to a point where they say, yeah, we had it coming.

01:56:33.000 We had it coming so that Americans don't rally in a nationalistic manner to the defense of their own country or, you know, just Americanism in general.

01:56:45.000 Because this is, this is, this is the, this is what multipolarity needs, right?

01:56:50.000 As, as a movement and an ideology and just as a political, political theory in itself.

01:56:55.000 This is what multipolarity ultimately needs in order to be successful.

01:57:00.000 They need Americans to have self-hatred and to loathe themselves to the point where they're either justifying attacks on Americans or saying things like Americans are actually the problem or America is actually the enemy.

01:57:15.000 And they have been so successful.

01:57:17.000 I mean, throughout this campaign, whether it be, you know, the Russia-Ukraine war, which began under Joe Biden's presidency or October 7th, right?

01:57:24.000 And we know that The Russians have been involved there as well.

01:57:28.000 There have even been reports of some of the missiles, some of the missiles that have been used by Hamas having Ukrainian or like Russian riding on it, right?

01:57:39.000 And then there's this whole debate over whether or not, you know, they were provided by the Ukrainians or whether or not they were Ukrainian weapons that were somehow confiscated by Russians through this invasion and then ultimately given to Islamic terrorists.

01:57:54.000 There are reports about this.

01:57:55.000 And this is when I started.

01:57:57.000 Doing a little bit more research and looking into it is when I started seeing these reports about missiles that had Russian or Ukrainian messages on them being found right in the aftermath of the attacks on October 7th.

01:58:13.000 And I don't think these really got it, it didn't really get a lot of attention.

01:58:16.000 It didn't really get a lot of focus.

01:58:18.000 I know I've talked to you about this, but it made me realize how many people in our own country, when I started to see a lot of these, and October 7th, of course, was.

01:58:28.000 A really big red pill for a lot of people. 0.99

01:58:30.000 I've always been pro Israel and always been anti Islam. 0.98

01:58:34.000 And so for me, you know, it didn't really change my worldview. 0.86

01:58:38.000 But when I started to see how so many social media influencers in America were cheering for Hamas and cheering for the Muslim Brotherhood and they were cheering for dead Jews and cheering for these attacks. 0.55

01:58:50.000 And then I started to see that in the aftermath of their aiding and abetting Islamic terrorist organizations and their support for our adversaries, where did they decide to go? 0.70

01:59:01.000 They decided to go to Russia, and some of these people who are some of the biggest propagandists online today who support Hamas and support the Muslim Brotherhood, including some of these Hamas terrorists themselves, are living in Moscow, like they're literally living in Russia. 0.71

01:59:19.000 And it's just a wake up call. 0.52

01:59:22.000 You see firsthand how they clearly support this because if Russia was truly committed to peace or Russia was truly against Islamic terrorism, and they like to pretend that they're That they support the Jewish community.

01:59:36.000 Putin's always telling the story about how he was an orphan and how he was raised by Jewish parents or like he was adopted, right? 0.52

01:59:43.000 He says that he was adopted by Jews or raised by Jews.

01:59:46.000 And then you're brainwashed into thinking, well, you know, obviously they're not going to be hostile towards Jewish people, but oh, they're a Christian country.

01:59:53.000 They're not going to have tolerance for Islamic terrorism.

01:59:57.000 But then you see these people like Jackson Hinkle, who is running cover for Hezbollah. 0.51

02:00:01.000 He literally attended Nasrallah's funeral, he was a special guest. 0.77

02:00:04.000 He's hanging out with the Houthis. 0.97

02:00:06.000 He's hanging out with Hamas. 0.98

02:00:07.000 He's advocating for the Muslim Brotherhood.

02:00:09.000 He's advocating for Erdogan. 0.82

02:00:11.000 He's having a funeral service for the Ayatollah. 0.58

02:00:14.000 And then instead of flagging him or telling him to go back to America where he came from, Right? 0.69

02:00:21.000 Or instead of working with the US government to have him somehow charged for aiding and abetting Islamic terrorism and using Russia as a safe haven, he's clearly not just treated like a star in Russia, but he's also living the large life.

02:00:37.000 And it makes you wonder who's giving him money?

02:00:39.000 Who's funding him?

02:00:40.000 Right?

02:00:41.000 Is he getting funding from the Russian government?

02:00:42.000 Why does Russian state media amplify him as he's supporting Islamic terrorists and cheering for Iran when they're launching attacks on US soldiers?

02:00:51.000 And you maybe I see this because I spend more time online than most people.

02:00:55.000 But when you start to really study the social media ecosystem and you see, you know, where these people are living and what type of protection they're getting and who's spewing anti American talking points and what their contracts are and who they actually work for.

02:01:10.000 John Kiriakou is another person that comes to mind, a common guest with Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson.

02:01:16.000 You know, Candace Owens, I believe, has promoted him.

02:01:18.000 Now he's making the rounds on Fox News.

02:01:21.000 Trying to influence the minds of boomer conservatives who generally watch Fox News.

02:01:28.000 And you see this guy getting treated like he's some kind of national security expert when he's a former CIA officer who literally defected to Russia.

02:01:37.000 Cause in his own words, the Russians were the only people that wanted to give him a job.

02:01:41.000 And he went to prison.

02:01:42.000 He went to prison for leaking classified information.

02:01:45.000 And so it becomes very clear when you see these people, wow, they're making very anti American comments.

02:01:51.000 Wow, that was a very anti Semitic thing.

02:01:53.000 Wow, that was a very anti evangelical comment.

02:01:56.000 Wow, it almost sounds like they're making excuses for the Iranian regime.

02:02:01.000 How does this guy who worked for the CIA prop up Russia?

02:02:04.000 How does he prop up Iran?

02:02:05.000 Then you start to see the commonalities with these people and you realize that they all have some kind of tie to Russia, right?

02:02:12.000 And even with the Democrats accusing Tulsi Gabbard of being a Russian asset and accusing her of having ties to Russia, you really start to see it in the way that her entire office and her staff at ODNI have these same sympathies that.

02:02:27.000 You know, align with Russia.

02:02:30.000 You see the way that the last thing that she did upon leaving office this week was release this very vague kind of PowerPoint slide about Ukrainian biolabs. 0.52

02:02:40.000 And then, you know, she had Joe Kent working with her as her chief of staff and the director of the National Counterterrorism Center and, you know, propping up all this Iranian propaganda.

02:02:49.000 And then you look online and again, it's the same thing it's Iran, it's Russia, it's Qatar.

02:02:55.000 And they're all propping up these clips.

02:02:57.000 They take clips of Joe Kent, they take clips of Candace Owens, they take clips of Candace Owens.

02:03:00.000 Clips of Megan Kelly, they take clips of Tucker Carlson, and you start to realize well, you know, maybe we can be against sending our money to Ukraine, but also not demonize the Ukrainian people to the point where it serves as an excuse, right?

02:03:15.000 Or some kind of moral justification for Russia to invade and kill these innocent people.

02:03:21.000 Like maybe we need to take a step back and kind of analyze how our anger has been channeled and weaponized and then repackaged on social media in disinformation campaigns and.

02:03:32.000 You know, in these news packages, news packages for Russian state media, Qatari state media, Turkish state media, Chinese state media, Iranian state media, and how these networks are working together online, whether you see it or not, you have to really pay attention and really observe it.

02:03:50.000 I've been mapping this stuff out for months, right?

02:03:52.000 So it's become very evident to me that this isn't just a coincidence.

02:03:56.000 At first, I wanted to ignore it and I didn't want to believe what I was seeing, but once you see it, Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

02:04:04.000 And once you see it, it starts to become even more apparent.

02:04:07.000 Like, once you see it, you see it everywhere, and you can't go online without noticing it.

02:04:15.000 And every single day, I go online, and that's the first thing that I notice whenever I wake up.

02:04:19.000 It's the first thing that just pops out in front of my eyes.

02:04:23.000 And it's disturbing to see how many people are oblivious to it.

02:04:27.000 And now I'm being called a Democrat because I'm having some introspection and some self reflection.

02:04:33.000 Admitting that maybe I fell for some Russian propaganda as a conservative in America.

02:04:38.000 And I'm not talking about the Russia collusion hoax.

02:04:41.000 I have a theory that the Democrats deliberately did this because the Democrats clearly want our country to be taken over by foreign adversaries. 0.65

02:04:49.000 That's why they're flooding our country with illegal aliens. 0.98

02:04:51.000 And that's why they're supporting the Iranians. 1.00

02:04:53.000 And that's why they're supporting the Palestinian movement. 0.98

02:04:56.000 And I don't really think that they care about the humanity of Ukrainian people. 0.98

02:05:02.000 I think that they want to. 1.00

02:05:04.000 Continue this conflict as long as they can so that people can, you know, become angrier and their anger can be weaponized so that they can become a pawn in this disinformation campaign to channel the anger to have this American, you know, American revolt against our own government. 0.73

02:05:23.000 And that's what you're seeing where the woke Reich is being amplified, their hatred towards President Trump and their hatred towards his administration, even though these people at one point in time claimed to support the president, is being channeled to not just undermine the Trump administration, but to create. 0.56

02:05:39.000 A civil war like conflict in our own country where people are not going to be able to unite, even if they belong to the same political party.

02:05:46.000 And so I've noticed it.

02:05:49.000 And I am being called a Democrat by people on the right who said, Oh, you're like a Russia collusion hoaxer now.

02:05:56.000 You're pushing Russia collusion 2.0.

02:05:58.000 Or what are you, like a liberal?

02:06:00.000 I'm going to unfollow you.

02:06:01.000 But then I also have the people on the left who say, Oh, well, you know, she's just a low IQ MAGA supporter and she should have realized this years ago.

02:06:09.000 Well, no, I didn't.

02:06:10.000 Realize it years ago because I'm not going to believe your lie that Donald Trump is a Russian spy or that Donald Trump is a Russian agent.

02:06:16.000 Like, you know, that words have words have words have meaning.

02:06:22.000 And I see this too with the current SPLC trial.

02:06:24.000 Here's another example outside of Russia.

02:06:28.000 They're having this, they have this indictment, right?

02:06:31.000 And they're releasing a lot of the evidence in this indictment from the SPLC.

02:06:35.000 And the SPLC is now being charged with fraud because they raised millions of dollars claiming in the aftermath of Charlottesville that they were going to combat Nazism.

02:06:45.000 Right. 0.57

02:06:45.000 And that Donald Trump was a white supremacist and that Donald Trump was supporting a white supremacist Nazi movement. 0.57

02:06:51.000 And that was the basis for Joe Biden to launch his presidential campaign. 0.95

02:06:56.000 And now we're finding out that they not only paid, you know, Nazis and Klans members, but also one of the SPLC directors, there was a news story about this today, was apparently having a sexual romantic relationship with one of the Nazis that they were paying.

02:07:12.000 And so it's the same thing where if you call people, Yeah, I saw Don Jr. today post it.

02:07:18.000 It was actually pretty funny. 0.99

02:07:19.000 He said, I guess they took fuck fascism a little too literally. 0.99

02:07:23.000 Like they took it literally. 0.98

02:07:25.000 But here's the article you can see for yourself for those of you who may not have seen the story.

02:07:33.000 But SPLC boss funneled $1.2 million to lover neo Nazi group.

02:07:38.000 Perry even had joint bank accounts.

02:07:41.000 Why am I talking about SPLC as it pertains to Russia?

02:07:44.000 Because it's like the boy who cried wolf.

02:07:46.000 For years, right?

02:07:47.000 The same timeline, really, if you look at it, it was like one year later.

02:07:50.000 Russia collusion, the lie started in 2016.

02:07:55.000 And then.

02:07:56.000 You know, we're in 2026, so it's been 10 years.

02:07:59.000 And then Charlottesville was 2017.

02:08:02.000 So it's around the same exact timeline.

02:08:04.000 And they really ran these ops at the same time like, oh, they're Nazis.

02:08:09.000 And oh, it's a Russian collusion.

02:08:12.000 And eventually, when you start, when you say something over and over again and it's not true, you're like the boy who cried wolf. 0.99

02:08:18.000 Now nobody gives a shit when you say the word racist. 0.99

02:08:20.000 Now nobody gives a shit on the right when you call somebody a Nazi or you call somebody a fascist. 0.99

02:08:26.000 Nobody cares now when you say Russia collusion or, oh my God, the Russians are influencing our elections. 0.99

02:08:31.000 They're trying to make the Democrats take the midterms because, well, they want to have chaos in America.

02:08:37.000 Now, when you say that, nobody believes it because they've been browbeaten over these last 10 years to, you know, believe these lies about so-called Russia collusion or neo-Nazis, right?

02:08:49.000 In the Republican party.

02:08:51.000 And now that we actually do have real Russia collusion in the GOP and we do have real Nazis in the GOP and the left for that matter, Like, look at Graham Plattner, for example.

02:09:02.000 Nobody's taking it seriously. 0.53

02:09:03.000 People, people, people would be outraged before if we had a candidate running for U.S. Senate who had a Nazi tattoo, or if we had Tucker Carlson interviewing Holocaust deniers and basically, you know, insinuating that, that, uh, six million Jews didn't actually die in the Holocaust, like Holocaust revisionism.

02:09:23.000 This stuff would have been inexcusable years ago.

02:09:26.000 But thanks to the Democrats and even some of the neocons who pushed these lies of Russia collusion and these lies that That everybody I don't like is a Nazi.

02:09:37.000 Now we're facing an existential crisis because, well, the Russians have taken advantage of that. 0.62

02:09:43.000 They've really capitalized on people's anger. 0.89

02:09:45.000 They go, wow, MAGA hates Ukraine because they're tired of their taxpayer dollars being used as a slush fund. 0.78

02:09:52.000 And they're tired of all these oligarchs going on shopping sprees, even though our oligarchs do the same thing.

02:09:58.000 And then, wow, MAGA's really tired of being called a Nazi.

02:10:02.000 And their president was called a Nazi for 10 years.

02:10:05.000 And, well, they're also really tired of.

02:10:09.000 Being told there's Russia collusion, and wow, Pam Bondi eliminated the fire enforcement memo on day one of being sworn in.

02:10:18.000 So, what are you going to do if you're a bad actor or you're some kind of Russian intelligence officer and you want to carry out some type of information warfare operation?

02:10:29.000 You're going to take advantage of the fact that there's no fire enforcement and you're going to actually have real Russia collusion and you're going to amplify real anti Semitism and real Nazism. 0.70

02:10:41.000 Because nobody is going to believe it. 0.74

02:10:43.000 Nobody is going to believe it.

02:10:44.000 Because why did Pam Bondi eliminate enforcement to Farah?

02:10:48.000 Because it was weaponized to push Russia collusion lies during the first Trump administration.

02:10:56.000 And now the Russians are taking advantage of that to push real Russia collusion.

02:11:00.000 So hopefully people understand the op.

02:11:03.000 I understand the op.

02:11:04.000 I'm trying to explain it to people so that they too can realize that they've been victimized by Russian propaganda.

02:11:10.000 But it's so exhausting.

02:11:12.000 It really is so exhausting because.

02:11:14.000 It's enough. 1.00

02:11:15.000 And it's a lot to unpack because it's been going on for so long, and Russia's very good at it. 0.91

02:11:22.000 They've been doing this since the Cold War. 0.90

02:11:25.000 And even I will say, some of, after many conversations there, some of this, there are many Nazis in Ukraine, quote unquote, idea. 0.60

02:11:35.000 Some of that is a Russian and Democrat op.

02:11:40.000 And why is that the case?

02:11:42.000 Well, because Putin is able to say, I'm going to denazify Ukraine.

02:11:48.000 And he's never called this a war, right?

02:11:51.000 It's a special military operation. 0.62

02:11:54.000 And what he means by that also is that he's going to just destroy Ukraine. 0.69

02:11:58.000 He's going to do to them what Russia did to the actual Nazis, which was reduce their cities to rubble and engage in all kinds of humanitarian abuses that the Western allies did not do when they entered Germany during World War II.

02:12:16.000 And then the Biden administration had an interest in saying, well, Ukraine is full of Nazis because he was running a political campaign.

02:12:23.000 And so it gave him.

02:12:25.000 Political leverage to be able to say, oh, well, we're fighting the Nazis over there, and we're not giving that part of the unit money. 0.69

02:12:35.000 We're giving the rest of them money, which they literally tried to demarcate the Azov battalion.

02:12:41.000 But when you go around Ukraine, there are banners, I mean, covering entire buildings about the Azov battalion because they're the most effective fighting force in the country.

02:12:52.000 And many of them were taken as POWs.

02:12:55.000 When they were defending the city of Mariupol at the factory there, which was shelled for weeks and weeks and weeks.

02:13:02.000 And they want them to be freed.

02:13:05.000 So it's a completely different point of view than what we have in America of that battalion.

02:13:11.000 Of course, there are some people who are going to say and do crazy things, who have crazy tattoos, who may say, oh, well, we're Nazis, we're fighting the Russians.

02:13:22.000 That's not the full sort of.

02:13:26.000 Group that makes up the battalion.

02:13:29.000 In fact, we did an anti UAV drone simulator, which is built on a gaming platform.

02:13:36.000 So you wear kind of a 3D headset.

02:13:38.000 And this is actually what they use to train their soldiers.

02:13:41.000 And you want to talk about cost, this is like one hundredth of the cost of what a US defense prime would use to roll out in their field to train their soldiers.

02:13:52.000 And there were multiple difficulty levels to shooting down the drone.

02:13:56.000 The hardest one was the Azov setting, which was.

02:14:00.000 Like, there are drones coming at you from everywhere, and you can't possibly shoot them down unless you really, really, really know what you're doing.

02:14:07.000 And so, I think, you know, looking at that today, and again, this war, it's gone through phases, it's gone over years.

02:14:15.000 People forget that President Trump inherited this war from Biden, and there were a ton of political issues that played out throughout that whole thing.

02:14:23.000 I mean, the cynical view is that he purposely didn't give them enough to defeat Russia, he just gave them enough every six months or so, every quarter, so that they could defend themselves.

02:14:34.000 Relatively well, and kind of push back the Russian advance, but not defeat them.

02:14:40.000 And one of the reasons for that is to rev up the US military industrial complex, right? 0.79

02:14:46.000 But when you look at today, the munitions we were supplying them with, that there were all these videos about for two or three years about how we don't have enough howitzer shells, right, to put in artillery and shoot at these cities, which Russia was using to level cities.

02:15:04.000 They're not even using artillery anymore.

02:15:06.000 It doesn't exist on the battlefield.

02:15:08.000 There's a 30 kilometer kill zone in every direction, and it's all drones.

02:15:13.000 It's over 90% of the casualties are from drones, right?

02:15:17.000 So, the war has just evolved so, so, so rapidly.

02:15:20.000 And I think looking at it today versus two years ago, three years ago, four years ago is different.

02:15:26.000 And so, I think it's brave and important for what you're saying and how that perspective has evolved.

02:15:32.000 Well, so has the situation on the ground, so has the information warfare.

02:15:37.000 A lot has changed.

02:15:38.000 The politics in the United States on this issue has changed as well.

02:15:43.000 So, I think it's a really important part of this conversation.

02:15:48.000 To sort of highlight those things.

02:15:50.000 And you're not alone.

02:15:51.000 I mean, it's impossible to not see all those things that are coming from Russia.

02:15:57.000 And they've been very, very successful at it.

02:16:00.000 And as you said in a New York Times piece, these issues, the foreign policy issues, are becoming more and more kitchen table issues.

02:16:09.000 And people are looking towards alternative media, towards podcasts, towards shows, towards this show for accurate, truthful information.

02:16:18.000 Yeah, and the podcasts are not regulated by.

02:16:20.000 Far up because there's no far enforcement.

02:16:22.000 And so, as more people turn to podcasts or podcastistan, as I call it, they may be finding themselves victimized by Russian propaganda or Qatari propaganda or Iranian propaganda.

02:16:34.000 So, it's one of the reasons why I personally don't even watch podcasts anymore unless I'm doing research or looking to see what crazy things somebody is saying on their podcast because I just don't trust anything anymore.

02:16:48.000 Honestly, I really find myself unable to trust it because it seems like so many people are being dishonest about.

02:16:54.000 Where their funding is coming from.

02:16:56.000 And, you know, I see it myself.

02:16:59.000 I see that for years people have said, oh, there's no such thing as Russia collusion.

02:17:04.000 Yeah, maybe in the sense that they were talking about it as it pertains to President Trump, but there really is Russia collusion.

02:17:10.000 I mean, look at these influencers going abroad to Russia and whitewashing everything and then talking about how much better Russia is compared to the United States of America, even while Russia is talking about selling nuclear weapons to Iran for the sake of destroying the United States of America.

02:17:27.000 That is propaganda.

02:17:28.000 And there is no enforcement, and nobody's going to jail.

02:17:31.000 Nobody is getting in trouble. 0.96

02:17:33.000 I think I played the clip of Hassan Piker earlier talking about how, oh, for $10,000, you could easily just build your own Shawhead drone. 0.53

02:17:40.000 And let me show you how. 0.90

02:17:42.000 And is it any wonder why people are now consuming shit on podcasts from Podcastistan and now they're plotting their own drone attacks on the White House? 0.92

02:17:52.000 So, this drone warfare that we see in places like Iran or in Gaza or in Russia and Ukraine. 0.96

02:18:02.000 It's now coming to the streets of America.

02:18:05.000 It's coming to the streets of America largely because of propaganda.

02:18:11.000 And you could even say that a lot of this is Russian propaganda.

02:18:14.000 I'm really interested in finding out more about who these individuals were who were plotting the attacks on the White House. 0.61

02:18:21.000 Some of them are woke Reich.

02:18:22.000 I know one of them has been identified as an illegal alien.

02:18:26.000 And I want to know what kind of media they're consuming because a lot of what you see online these days is being completely.

02:18:34.000 Completely amplified by foreign bot networks.

02:18:36.000 And it's no longer just about right versus left or, wow, it's the radical left that's inciting violence.

02:18:43.000 No, you have people on the right and the left that are coming together through horseshoe theory and they are unfortunately joining together to carry out acts of violence for the sake of, well, pushing their own warped ideology.

02:19:02.000 I mean, in this case, the example is.

02:19:04.000 Israel derangement syndrome. 0.69

02:19:05.000 A lot of that is being pushed by Russia.

02:19:09.000 I think it's also kind of interesting that Zelensky himself is Jewish, and a lot of this stuff is being pushed out as they talk about denazifying Ukraine.

02:19:18.000 And yeah, they do have Nazis in Azov Battalion.

02:19:22.000 I'm not denying that there are Nazis in Ukraine or they've had a history of Nazism, but there are so many levels of this propaganda.

02:19:30.000 And when you see the various accounts that are reclipping and sharing these people who are calling Trump the Antichrist or are saying that our country is under Israeli occupation or they're saying that.

02:19:41.000 Every single member is sold out to AIPAC, like Tucker Carlson will interview Thomas Massey and they'll spend two hours talking about this very topic.

02:19:49.000 Or just like on a show he did two days ago, where he obsessively talks about AIPAC and calls it the Jewish lobby.

02:19:55.000 And then this stuff gets amplified by foreign media.

02:19:58.000 Well, there's no regulation and there's no enforcement and there's no charges that are going to be levied by our DOJ.

02:20:04.000 What's stopping them from seeing this attack or this thwarted attack and saying, wow, we almost did it?

02:20:11.000 If it weren't for the FBI intercepting those.

02:20:13.000 Attacks, people would have actually been killed at the White House.

02:20:16.000 You know how devastating that would have been for our America 250 event, for the UFC event to be attacked with drones and snipers?

02:20:24.000 So they're watching.

02:20:25.000 Our adversaries are watching.

02:20:27.000 They're taking into account the fact that we have a munitions crisis, that the party is divided, our country is divided.

02:20:35.000 People are using Jewish people as a scapegoat.

02:20:37.000 They're using Israel as a scapegoat to blame people and to have this kind of rally point among these.

02:20:46.000 You know, varying factions in the radical left and the woke right to bring them together, right?

02:20:52.000 That's what horseshoe theory is to bring them together so that they can unite around their common goal. 0.94

02:20:57.000 And in this case, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if you have foreign adversaries in these chats. 0.82

02:21:03.000 Like, how do we know some of the people that are in these chats aren't foreigners themselves that are trying to gin up or convince these people to be violent or to carry out acts of violence against the White House, right?

02:21:15.000 That, if there was a successful drone attack or a sniper attack on the White House, That would surely show our adversaries that America is not as safe as our government wants you to think it is, that our White House, that our political buildings are not as safe as the White House or our government officials want you to believe.

02:21:34.000 And it makes me think that maybe we're going to see the next 9 11 be an act of drone warfare, right?

02:21:40.000 Maybe there's going to be some massive attack on a synagogue or some kind of Jewish day school or evangelicals here in America.

02:21:48.000 Like, what's going to stop homegrown domestic terrorists that are being amplified or supported by these?

02:21:53.000 Foreign propaganda bot networks online from creating their own shot head drones like Hassan Piker is encouraging people to do.

02:22:01.000 Nothing is stopping them. 0.67

02:22:02.000 Nothing is stopping them.

02:22:05.000 I think it's a question of when, not if.

02:22:07.000 And one of the things I'm personally terrified by it because, pardon me, what happens if somebody tries to target me with a drone?

02:22:16.000 And you see these videos from the battlefields of Ukraine and you see these videos of like drones like chasing people around, right?

02:22:24.000 Following people and then killing them.

02:22:26.000 And It's like, is this what we're facing now in America? 0.97

02:22:30.000 Are we going to now have to worry about all of these woke Reich neo Nazis colluding with the radical left jihadist Muslims and going around and chasing Jews and evangelicals on the streets of America with drones? 0.54

02:22:43.000 I know it sounds like a sci fi movie, but this is where we're headed. 0.72

02:22:47.000 And when I woke up this morning and I saw that news story about the thwarted drone attack, I just got chills.

02:22:52.000 I was laying in bed and I saw the story because I wake up really early and then I just kind of scroll the internet for a little while because, you know, I want to.

02:22:59.000 Think of what I want to talk about on my show.

02:23:02.000 I read the news.

02:23:03.000 I want to see what people are talking about, right?

02:23:05.000 I want to reply to my emails, reply to my messages.

02:23:09.000 And I started to just wonder what compels somebody.

02:23:13.000 Like, how do 23 people in a signal chat get to a point where they want to carry out drone warfare against their fellow Americans and the United States of America's most iconic political building, the White House?

02:23:28.000 GOP members of Congress, by Democrat members of Congress, and by Islamic groups in America.

02:23:33.000 And there's no, there's no, Line of demarcation anymore.

02:23:38.000 There used to be standards, right, Andrew, in the varying political parties where you would say, okay, well, this is the Republican foreign policy and this is the Democrats' foreign policy.

02:23:47.000 And this is our own red line.

02:23:50.000 When we talk about red lines, this is the line we're not going to cross as Republicans.

02:23:56.000 And now the lines have been so blurred.

02:24:00.000 You can't even really tell what the foreign policy is with the Democrat Party or the Republican Party because there's so many people being radicalized.

02:24:07.000 I don't know what your thoughts are on that, but that's my opinion.

02:24:13.000 Oh, he has a connectivity issue.

02:24:16.000 In the meantime, we'll go to the chat and take a few comments or questions.

02:24:19.000 Is he back?

02:24:20.000 Okay, you're back. 0.60

02:24:22.000 I don't know if you heard what I said, but I said that when you see people using these same talking points as actual domestic terrorists who tried to use drones to blow up the White House, you see the radical left using these talking points, the jihadist Muslims, members of the GOP Congressional Caucus.

02:24:39.000 Elected Democrats, social media influencers, there's not a line of demarcation anymore.

02:24:44.000 When you think about the political parties or the political spectrum in America, generally speaking, each party has their own foreign policy, right?

02:24:51.000 Or things that they believe in, which are pivotal to their foreign policy.

02:24:56.000 And because of this whole concept of a big tent movement, it now feels like there really is no defined foreign policy in the GOP.

02:25:04.000 And as foreign policy becomes more of a kitchen table politic, a kitchen table Political topic in our country, excuse me,

02:25:17.000 you are going to find that there's either going to be people on the right that join the left because they're going to find more extreme emotion for their very radical and very anti American and pro multipolarity foreign policy views on the left.

02:25:37.000 And then they're going to start defecting to the left, which is only going to guarantee us Democrat super majorities.

02:25:42.000 Or you're just going to have people be.

02:25:45.000 Self censoring themselves and not even showing up to vote, they're going to be suppressing their own vote because they're not going to feel like they have a political party anymore that represents their foreign policy views.

02:25:55.000 Because so many of these politicians have seen the algorithm, right?

02:26:00.000 And they see that they get ratioed online and their social media comments, or they're watching other people make these ridiculous comments and they're getting hundreds of thousands of views and all these likes.

02:26:11.000 And you have to ask yourself, is this real life or is this a bot network?

02:26:15.000 Is this real sentiment among American people, American voters, or Are these foreign bot networks?

02:26:21.000 And it doesn't really feel like our government has a sense of urgency to try to figure this out.

02:26:28.000 And if it doesn't get addressed soon, we're not going to see the end of these wars.

02:26:33.000 I know that Donald Trump wants to call himself the president of peace.

02:26:37.000 And for the most part, he is the president of peace.

02:26:39.000 He does what he can to try to end these wars.

02:26:42.000 And he's tried to end the Russia Ukraine war.

02:26:44.000 He's tried to end the war with Iran.

02:26:47.000 He's tried to end the conflict between Israel and Hamas.

02:26:51.000 So I do believe that President Trump is committed to peace, but.

02:26:55.000 If these propaganda campaigns continue to go unchecked, forget about it.

02:27:01.000 These wars are intentionally and deliberately being prolonged by our adversaries to make the American people have hatred towards the president that they elected and towards their own country.

02:27:13.000 Right.

02:27:14.000 And the influence operations are highly effective and they're working, sadly.

02:27:20.000 And that's what you see represented when somebody like Candace Owens goes to Red Square and brings her family on a vacation there and says, well, everything's great.

02:27:30.000 And I will say, everyone in Ukraine.

02:27:33.000 From sort of the top to bottom that I spoke to at these conferences, some of them were diplomats, some of them were business people who were just completely confused by what they're doing.

02:27:46.000 I mean, they're aware of Russian misinformation and sort of digital tactics, but even they are like, what are these people doing?

02:27:55.000 They are Americans, they are thinking people.

02:27:59.000 Well, and this was a subject at the conference, too.

02:28:01.000 You told me that while you were there, you attended the Odessa Security Conference.

02:28:05.000 And there was another conference, the Architecture of Security Conference.

02:28:09.000 So you attended two of these national security conferences.

02:28:13.000 And apparently, all right, I was getting messages from you while you were there.

02:28:18.000 And you were telling me, oh, people here are talking about you.

02:28:20.000 And I said, oh, really?

02:28:21.000 What are they saying?

02:28:21.000 And they said, they're talking about how you're kind of cracking the code on all these influencers who are serving as little Russian propagandists.

02:28:29.000 And so you said that while you were at the, I think it was at the Odessa Security Conference, you actually asked one of Zelensky's top advisors what they thought about.

02:28:39.000 Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, and some of these other influencers.

02:28:42.000 We have the clip here as well, parroting Russian propaganda and why they thought they were doing it.

02:28:48.000 And I want to go ahead and play the clip.

02:28:50.000 I guess, should we just play the entire clip or we'll just play everything from the top, but we'll just play the whole clip.

02:28:57.000 It's about three minutes and 49 seconds long.

02:28:59.000 But I found it to be really interesting that, like I said, I've never been to Ukraine.

02:29:04.000 You wanted to go as a.

02:29:06.000 We were invited to send a correspondent, but.

02:29:10.000 I have not had any communication with anybody in Ukraine.

02:29:13.000 And so to find out that they were openly talking about my reporting on these Russian foreign influence operations at the Odessa Security Conference and at the Architecture of Security Conference, I guess it was kind of shocking to me that my reporting was being discussed at these national security conferences.

02:29:33.000 So I want to go ahead and play the clip.

02:29:42.000 In 2013, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych rejected a deal that would have brought Ukraine closer to Europe and instead moved the country back toward Russia's influence.

02:29:52.000 Ukrainians poured into Kyiv's Independence Square.

02:29:55.000 What began as a small protest quickly grew to become the revolution of dignity.

02:30:00.000 For months, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians stood in the freezing cold facing riot police and beatings.

02:30:07.000 They were protesting corruption, Soviet-style authoritarianism, and the attempt to drag Ukraine back under Moscow's shadow.

02:30:16.000 By February 2014, the crackdown turned deadly.

02:30:20.000 Smoke filled the streets of Kyiv.

02:30:23.000 108 protesters were shot and killed.

02:30:26.000 Images from Maidan became a symbol of sacrifice and resistance.

02:30:31.000 That same spirit is alive and well today.

02:30:34.000 Today we're in Maidan Square, a place where the Ukraine we know today started, but also a scene of death and sacrifice. 0.55

02:30:44.000 I'm Andrew Moore with Lumor Unleashed. 0.94

02:30:46.000 We're here in Kyiv, where several minutes ago three Shahed drones came towards the north of this city, but they're not hitting this area where we are in Maidan Square.

02:30:55.000 This area represents the birth of the modern democratic movement in Ukraine, but today it's a scene of death where you see flags all over the place of Ukrainian soldiers, American soldiers, soldiers from the EU, South America, who have died, fought, and bled in this war to preserve freedom.

02:31:16.000 And Vladimir Putin is responsible for the deaths of every one of these Americans, every one of these soldiers who came here to fight for freedom.

02:31:25.000 So why is Candace Owen standing in front of the Kremlin in Red Square?

02:31:30.000 Why is Tucker Carlson echoing talking points from Alexander Dugan?

02:31:35.000 Earlier today at the security forum, I asked the chief of staff for President Zelensky about this issue, and he told me that the answer Is obvious.

02:31:49.000 A man of few words.

02:31:50.000 It's contained within the question that they are spreading Russian propaganda to harm Americans.

02:31:58.000 What's your response in terms of information warfare to American media personalities traveling to Russia like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and spreading Russian talking points to their audiences in the United States and across the world?

02:32:11.000 Can you explain what you mean?

02:32:13.000 They're people with large audiences in the United States, media personalities who are.

02:32:18.000 Sort of taking Russia's side in this war and spreading Russia's propaganda to American audiences and audiences across the world using their platforms.

02:32:30.000 How can I put a statement about the same thing?

02:32:37.000 What do you expect from me?

02:32:40.000 Because the answer is obvious.

02:32:45.000 Today in the Middle East, Russia is providing drones and material support. 0.98

02:32:51.000 For the Ayatollahs to kill Americans. 0.64

02:32:54.000 This is a big reason why we don't have more involvement there to affect the kind of change militarily that America would like to affect long term. 0.88

02:33:02.000 It's hurting the United States, it's hurting our allies. 0.80

02:33:06.000 No one should be fooled by the Russian talking points being echoed by the woke Reich. 0.66

02:33:12.000 They are directly contributing to Putin's death machine rolling through this country and attacking Western democracies. 0.70

02:33:26.000 So he kind of gave you this very, like, not sarcastic, but kind of like, oh, well, you know, what do you expect?

02:33:34.000 You know, it's obvious, right?

02:33:35.000 So without saying it, he said they're obviously Russian agents or the Russian propagandists.

02:33:41.000 So it's kind of interesting, right?

02:33:43.000 It's kind of interesting that, and again, I'm neither pro Ukraine or pro Russia, but I find it to be very interesting that the senior advisors for Zelensky are essentially telling the Odessa security conference that, well, you know, why are you asking this question?

02:34:01.000 It should be very obvious that these people are essentially being propped up by Russian and they're Russian propagandists.

02:34:07.000 And they probably have access to more intel, right?

02:34:10.000 I'm sure that they have spies and people who provide them with.

02:34:15.000 More direct intelligence than who knows, maybe our own intel agencies aren't looking into these people.

02:34:21.000 I mean, I was told that our intel agencies are looking into these funding networks.

02:34:26.000 I've been talking about this for a while.

02:34:28.000 When I say I don't know how extensively they're looking into it, I don't know if there's going to be any prosecutions.

02:34:33.000 I do know that the FBI has looked into some of these podcasters.

02:34:36.000 I do know that my CIA source told me that they have evidence at the CIA that multiple of these podcasters are being funded by Turkey.

02:34:46.000 And so I know that I've had private conversations with multiple U.S. senators and urged them to get briefings, right?

02:34:52.000 I obviously cannot be a part of these classified briefings, but I encourage these senators.

02:34:56.000 I won't say who, but I've had conversations with multiple U.S. senators' offices to get a classified briefing from the CIA regarding the information that they have with Turkey paying these podcasters because I couldn't get more information from my source because that would be classified information, right?

02:35:15.000 I can't get classified information.

02:35:17.000 I don't have a clearance.

02:35:18.000 And so I do know, though, that our own government is looking into some of these podcasters because even the FBI rapid response account essentially confirmed that the other day when one of these social media influencers was falsely claiming that they had a,

02:35:36.000 and this was a foreigner, of course, somebody who's Russian, was falsely claiming that they have like an inside source at the FBI who is running background checks on people and doing advanced searches on people who they don't like and people who they want surveilled by the FBI.

02:35:53.000 And so the FBI said they were immediately looking into this because this person is not only a foreigner, but they are claiming that they're in touch with Tyler Robinson's defense team and that they're trying to help Tyler Robinson out.

02:36:07.000 So, again, I do know that some of our intel agencies are monitoring these people, but it's good to know.

02:36:15.000 It's good to know that in Ukraine, they're also monitoring them.

02:36:19.000 I mean, I've heard that the Israelis are monitoring some of these people as well.

02:36:22.000 So, That's why obviously Israel monitors influencers because, well, there's been multiple instances of social media influencers who are very anti Israel traveling to Israel and then they get denied at the airport and they're sent back and they're told that they need to get back on the plane and that they're not going to be monitored.

02:36:39.000 They're not going to be let into the country because they were monitored and they found that their activities could lead to violence against Jewish people or cause social chaos or disruption within the country that they're visiting.

02:36:54.000 And so, um, Other countries take this a lot more seriously than we do.

02:36:59.000 I think you're muted, but other countries take this a lot more seriously than we do.

02:37:03.000 And I think that we need to start taking it just as seriously as a country like Israel that doesn't allow people into their country if they engage in these types of influence operations.

02:37:14.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:37:16.000 And you were talking about Israel keeping a close eye on influencers.

02:37:20.000 And you remember Tucker tried to make a whole story out of being allegedly stopped at the airport, which.

02:37:28.000 Turned out they were kind of trying to take pictures with him after he engaged in really this embarrassing interview with Mike Huckabee.

02:37:38.000 As embarrassing as his interview was with Putin, that's not journalism in any way, shape, or form.

02:37:45.000 And you can see what everything you were talking about in terms of that alignment with the sort of that horseshoe, with the woke right, with Russia, with Iran, with these anti US interests, because they have a transcendent overlapping interest in terms of control.

02:38:02.000 And power that goes beyond religion, it goes beyond economics.

02:38:06.000 That's why China, Iran, Russia are all supporting each other. 0.84

02:38:10.000 Russia is supporting the Islamists.

02:38:12.000 I don't know if we want to play that video. 1.00

02:38:14.000 That's kind of a good one. 0.70

02:38:15.000 Yeah, we have a clip, and that's another thing that I wanted to talk about because in your report from Maidan Square, you're talking about how Russia is providing the Iranians with missiles to attack Americans, to kill Americans. 0.51

02:38:29.000 They're flirting with the idea of someday Iran obtaining nuclear weapons supplied to them by China or Russia. to attack and destroy the West. 0.61

02:38:38.000 This is a concept called multipolarity, or, you know, if you spend a lot of time in podcastistan, it's also called Duganism. 0.86

02:38:47.000 Um, it's spreading like wildfire.

02:38:49.000 And it's very interesting as well, seeing Dugan himself keep such close tabs on the social media influencer landscape in America.

02:38:58.000 I mean, if you look at his social media, all he talks about are the dynamics between the influencers, almost like they're trying to whip up a cacao.

02:39:07.000 Concoction in Russia as to how to pit people against each other or how to best utilize some of these influencers.

02:39:14.000 And even though Dugan is not American, he is, you know, trying to create this narrative that certain influencers are Russia phobic.

02:39:23.000 First of all, I'm not Russia phobic.

02:39:24.000 I don't hate Russian people.

02:39:25.000 I don't even hate Russia, but I'm very disturbed by their amplification of all of these anti Trump woke right influencers in a very coordinated way. 0.51

02:39:37.000 You could just go to the RT social media feed.

02:39:40.000 They basically do not post anything outside of woke Reich podcast clips now.

02:39:45.000 It's very bizarre.

02:39:47.000 I mean, shouldn't Russian state media be talking about Russian news as opposed to, you know, just talking about American woke Reich podcasters and their anti Israel sentiment?

02:39:57.000 It's very bizarre.

02:40:00.000 I think that it's definitely something that should be investigated.

02:40:07.000 And I think that's a really bizarre thing.

02:40:10.000 I have the clip of Dugan.

02:40:12.000 Yeah, yeah, play it.

02:40:14.000 I'll play it.

02:40:14.000 I'll play it because some people will say to me, You're making this up.

02:40:17.000 You sound like a Democrat.

02:40:19.000 And I'm not, I'm not a Democrat.

02:40:21.000 I would never vote Democrat.

02:40:23.000 I feel like soon I'm going to be politically homeless.

02:40:25.000 I don't even know what's going to happen in 2028 or who I'd be voting for at this point in time.

02:40:31.000 Because if nobody in the GOP is going to address this, then who am I going to vote for in 2028 if nobody wants to address these issues?

02:40:38.000 It's very disturbing to me how people.

02:40:44.000 Are just so complicit and they're letting this happen.

02:40:47.000 But here's the clip.

02:40:47.000 You can hear it for yourself.

02:40:48.000 This is Dugan.

02:40:49.000 He's been promoting Candace Owens.

02:40:51.000 He's been promoting Tucker Carlson.

02:40:53.000 Tucker Carlson actually interviewed him when he was in Russia.

02:40:57.000 Megyn Kelly gets promoted by Dugan, Nick Fuentes.

02:41:00.000 So listen to him in his own words. 0.84

02:41:04.000 And we are going to distribute nuclear weapons to everybody who can use it against the West.

02:41:11.000 I think we are going to supply all kinds of strategical weapons to.

02:41:17.000 All enemies of American hegemony, Western hegemony against NATO, starting from Middle East to the Far East to North America, we are going to war.

02:41:34.000 It's a war.

02:41:35.000 It's a war.

02:41:36.000 I think Janice Owens attended the St. Petersburg, I think it was the St. Petersburg Economic Forum.

02:41:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:41:46.000 And smoke filled the air.

02:41:49.000 That morning, when Ukraine launched a UAV counterattack, Russia has pretty bad air defenses.

02:41:57.000 And soon there's going to be a fuel shortage, most likely in Russia, because of all the refineries that they've been blowing up recently.

02:42:06.000 And so clearly they're making massive, massive advances there to increase their leverage and these peace negotiations.

02:42:13.000 But Dugan, you know, a lot of this online warfare is directed by Dugan.

02:42:20.000 I mean, he picks out who.

02:42:22.000 The podcasters are who the media personalities are to support and who they should go after.

02:42:28.000 And RT and other, there are other outlets as well, but RT is the main one, English language that they used to go and support these people.

02:42:37.000 And that was the whole purpose of RT.

02:42:40.000 That was why it was created to be one big, major, sort of modern influence operation in the United States.

02:42:47.000 And they had probably the most modern.

02:42:52.000 Television studio when they built it in DC 15 years ago or so, just before they got labeled as a threat, as a foreign registered agent.

02:43:07.000 And now they no longer have that studio and they broadcast mostly out of Russia.

02:43:13.000 But it is truly bizarre how they track these issues and they're very good at it.

02:43:19.000 And I think some of these things in Ukraine, you saw General Budanov's answer be so.

02:43:25.000 Terse and sort of, well, this is obvious.

02:43:28.000 Well, this is not obvious to many, many Americans who are not used to observing Soviet style propaganda because we have a very open system and we're a very open society.

02:43:40.000 But that is something that is exploited in a military sense and an information warfare sense as a weakness.

02:43:48.000 And, you know, who doesn't have this problem?

02:43:50.000 Russia, because your show is banned there, because, you know, X is banned there.

02:43:55.000 You can't watch this show there.

02:43:57.000 You can't have.

02:43:58.000 Foreign influence there.

02:44:00.000 In fact, they're even banning Telegram, which is, I mean, I think it was a Russian app.

02:44:06.000 It was a Russian app.

02:44:06.000 Yeah, it was literally founded by the Russians.

02:44:10.000 So before we close out tonight, I mean, I want to take a couple questions.

02:44:13.000 So put your questions in the chat.

02:44:15.000 We'll take about two or three questions for Andrew.

02:44:19.000 But before we close out, I wanted to highlight again how Russia likes to claim that they're a Christian country because one of the things that Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson both did while they went to Russia was they talked about how.

02:44:31.000 Oh, it's such an amazing Christian country, and they're doing so much to spread Christianity, and it's a great place for Christians to raise their children and a great place for Christian families. 0.98

02:44:42.000 But then they're aligning with Islamic terrorists, and they're actually aligning with Islamic jihadists to massacre Christians, to massacre Jews. 0.97

02:44:51.000 And clearly, you're not really pro Christian if you're going to align with Islamic terrorists. 0.97

02:44:57.000 They're actually utilizing Kadarov's own Islamic military, these Chechenian Islamic jihadists. 0.70

02:45:05.000 To invade Ukraine by convincing them that they need to carry out some type of spiritual form of Islamic jihad in order to support Vladimir Putin.

02:45:15.000 So clearly, that is not a pro Christian or pro life or just Christian message in general.

02:45:23.000 And I think that we should play this video.

02:45:25.000 I find it to be so shocking.

02:45:27.000 It's so alarming to me that so many Americans are unaware of this.

02:45:32.000 They're unaware that, no, Russia is not actually.

02:45:36.000 A Christian country. 0.94

02:45:37.000 Russia has decided to sell its soul to Islamic Jihad, and they have partnered with Islamic Jihadists for the sake of carrying out actual jihad, not just warfare, right, with drones, but they're actually using savage Muslim Jihadist soldiers to go into some of these Ukrainian villages to rape women and to kill children and to just savage Ukrainians. 0.87

02:46:02.000 So, more people need to know about this alliance between Russia and these Islamic nations. 0.84

02:46:07.000 So, let's go ahead and play this clip.

02:46:11.000 So, do you see the supernatural at work as you look out across what's happening in the world now?

02:46:17.000 Do you see God at work?

02:46:18.000 Do you ever think to yourself, these are forces that are not human?

02:46:30.000 No, to be honest, I don't think so.

02:46:33.000 My opinion is that the development of the world community is in accordance with the inherent laws, and those laws are what they are. 0.92

02:46:44.000 Vladimir Putin and his Muslim allies have declared a Muslim Orthodox jihad in Europe. 0.86

02:46:50.000 Behind the front lines, Putin has forged an unholy alliance with Islamist terror. 0.88

02:46:54.000 Putin, through Chechen Muslim warlord Ramzan Kadyrov, has unleashed tens of thousands of jihadist mujahideen on Ukraine. 0.76

02:47:03.000 Kadyrov rules Chechnya through Sharia law and will seek to do the same in Ukraine. 0.83

02:47:09.000 Putin's soldiers of the caliphate have slaughtered Christians and destroyed their churches while restoring mosques. 0.59

02:47:18.000 Many churches in Muslim-occupied Ukraine have been damaged or destroyed, but satellite photos show a newly restored mosque.

02:47:26.000 But Putin hasn't stopped with the destruction of churches. 0.81

02:47:29.000 He is replacing Ukrainian Christians with Muslims from Central Asia.

02:47:33.000 Tens of thousands of Muslims have moved into occupied Mariupol. 0.69

02:47:37.000 Putin has launched a great replacement of Christians in occupied Ukraine, and he won't stop with Ukraine. 0.98

02:47:43.000 Spread the word about Putin's unholy alliance with militant Islam. 0.95

02:47:53.000 So, I always said that I wasn't anti Russia or I wasn't anti Ukraine. 0.98

02:47:59.000 I wasn't pro Russia and I wasn't pro Ukraine.

02:48:02.000 But I will say, seeing a clip like that makes me more sympathetic to Ukraine than Russia. 0.67

02:48:10.000 Even with my opposition to my tax dollars going abroad, if I had to pick a side, seeing Russia's Weaponization of political and militant Islam would make me pro Ukraine. 0.81

02:48:29.000 I will just say that. 0.93

02:48:32.000 Yeah.

02:48:33.000 Yeah.

02:48:34.000 It's the horseshoe theory.

02:48:35.000 Like you said, it's undefeated globally and right here at home.

02:48:41.000 So, I, you know, I, like I said, I was always that person that just said, I'm not anti Russia.

02:48:49.000 I'm not anti Ukraine.

02:48:50.000 I just don't want $400 billion of my taxpayer dollars going overseas to Ukraine. 0.63

02:48:55.000 When we have homeless veterans and we have illegal aliens and we have, you know, broken roads and broken infrastructure here in the United States. 0.78

02:49:02.000 But watching Russia pretend to be a Christian country and pretend to be some kind of bastion of Christianity while they weaponize political Islam to mass murder innocent Christians and non Muslims and to flood a Christian country. 0.90

02:49:19.000 And also, I guess Ukraine is Jewish. 0.82

02:49:22.000 It's largely Jewish, but it's also largely Christian as well. 0.93

02:49:26.000 But to flood a A country that has a large Jewish population and a large Christian population with jihadist Muslims. 0.97

02:49:34.000 And when I'm just talking about any kind of Muslim, right, we're talking about specifically jihadist Muslims, men who are trained in Chechnya to mass murder. 0.97

02:49:44.000 And that's what Kadarov does. 0.94

02:49:45.000 He literally trains these people to die for jihad.

02:49:49.000 And so they don't care about casualties. 0.89

02:49:51.000 They don't really care about Chechnyan jihadist Muslim soldiers dying in war because they actually want to die. 0.98

02:49:58.000 They encourage them to be as brutal as. 0.95

02:50:00.000 Possible and to engage in the most dangerous form of warfare and occupation possible because he convinces them that they're going to be rewarded by carrying out this act of jihad. 0.86

02:50:12.000 They'll get their 72 virgins because not only are they carrying out their duty of Islamic jihad, but they're also supporting Putin, who is closely aligned with him. 0.58

02:50:25.000 So I don't think a lot of people are aware of this relationship. 0.67

02:50:31.000 I don't even think most Americans know who.

02:50:34.000 Kadarov is.

02:50:35.000 But I would encourage anybody trying to make their case, right?

02:50:41.000 Try to wake people up about the Russian propaganda and also trying to bring awareness to the humanitarian crisis.

02:50:53.000 When you're trying to reach a MAGA base in particular, people who feel aggrieved, people who have anger towards Ukraine because they've been told that, you know, they've been shafted while their families have been suffering here in America, your tax dollars are going overseas.

02:51:07.000 To support Ukrainians instead of giving your family a stimulus check.

02:51:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:51:14.000 Talking about the utilization of Islamic jihadists to mass murder people and take over their country through a great replacement is something that would really resonate with the American people.

02:51:27.000 So it's terrifying. 0.57

02:51:29.000 It's horrifying.

02:51:30.000 It's horrifying to me.

02:51:32.000 With Senator Kennedy on religious freedom and prosecuting some of these.

02:51:38.000 It is truly a big one.

02:51:41.000 That to me is an issue. 0.83

02:51:42.000 That to me is the reason why people should be pro Ukraine as opposed to pro Russia. 0.80

02:51:47.000 Yeah.

02:51:49.000 It's kind of a deal breaker for me.

02:51:52.000 Yeah.

02:51:53.000 They have aligned fully.

02:51:55.000 And Katarov was one of the first people into Ukraine when the full scale invasion started.

02:52:00.000 And just going back to what we were talking about earlier with the drones that may have been captured, Ukrainian drones, you know, launched from Hamas, Russia's very, very good at false flag operations. 0.54

02:52:11.000 I mean, that's very good.

02:52:12.000 Well, maybe it sounds a little tribalistic for people to say, oh, of all the issues, that's what makes you reconsider your position.

02:52:20.000 And people will say, oh, why all of a sudden are you changing your position on Russia and Ukraine?

02:52:25.000 That's why. 0.85

02:52:28.000 Their weaponization of political Islam and their weaponization of social media to use the woke Reich and amplify the woke Reich on social media to cause chaos and anti Semitism in America. 0.90

02:52:44.000 Yep. 0.74

02:52:45.000 That's the reason why I'm now reconsidering my whole perception of Ukraine and everything that I was told about Ukraine and everything I've been told about Russia over the last 10 years.

02:52:58.000 And now I want to go visit Ukraine.

02:53:03.000 You'd be welcomed with open arms, the birthplace of Hasidic Judaism. 1.00

02:53:11.000 That's what they'll do to America, ultimately. 0.99

02:53:13.000 If these multipolar totalitarian dictators are able to somehow attack America with nuclear weapons or to launch some type of invasion into the United States, they'll flood our country with genocidal Muslims, too, which is what I've been warning everybody about. 0.99

02:53:30.000 Oh, absolutely. 0.99

02:53:32.000 And they will use Muslims to mass murder Americans, to conquer the West and to conquer the United States of America and to implement their caliphate. 1.00

02:53:39.000 They will. 1.00

02:53:41.000 100%. 1.00

02:53:43.000 They will weaponize militant Islam, political Islam, to bring the West to its knees. 1.00

02:53:48.000 And that's what they're already doing. 0.93

02:53:49.000 And people will say it's a conspiracy theory and then they just call me Islamophobic.

02:53:53.000 But no, this is reality. 0.89

02:53:57.000 It's real.

02:53:58.000 That's our reality.

02:53:59.000 That is our reality. 1.00

02:54:00.000 We will end up just like Ukraine. 1.00

02:54:03.000 Yeah.

02:54:04.000 I used to laugh when people would say this.

02:54:06.000 I would say, We're not Ukraine.

02:54:08.000 That's over there.

02:54:09.000 Okay.

02:54:09.000 We're over here.

02:54:10.000 When people, when senators would try to justify sending money overseas to Ukraine, and I want to make it clear, I'm not in favor of sending more money to Ukraine.

02:54:17.000 I don't want to send more money to Ukraine. 0.51

02:54:20.000 But you can be against sending money to Ukraine and also recognize the Russian propaganda and also call Russia out for this barbaric tactic of weaponizing political Islam for the sake of carrying out jihad against innocent Christians and Jews.

02:54:20.000 No.

02:54:36.000 It's.

02:54:39.000 Very, I just, I've really thought about this a lot.

02:54:43.000 And I, like I said before, I'm kind of embarrassed.

02:54:45.000 I'm kind of embarrassed that I fell for so much of this propaganda for so long.

02:54:49.000 But maybe I, maybe I should have just informed myself a lot earlier.

02:54:54.000 But I didn't know any of this was happening.

02:54:57.000 I really honestly didn't know that they were weaponizing Muslims to carry out acts of jihad in Ukraine.

02:55:03.000 I didn't realize this.

02:55:04.000 But, and then I saw the extent of all the social media.

02:55:08.000 Propaganda because I was banned for years.

02:55:10.000 You have to remember, I was deplatformed on social media for a lot of the first Trump administration.

02:55:15.000 So I didn't have access to Twitter or Facebook or Instagram because I was banned.

02:55:19.000 But now that I do have access again, I see it.

02:55:22.000 I see it so clearly.

02:55:24.000 I see all of this propaganda so clearly, and my eyes have truly been opened.

02:55:32.000 Yeah.

02:55:33.000 It's a horrifying reality.

02:55:36.000 Is there anything else that you wanted to add?

02:55:38.000 We'll go to the chat.

02:55:38.000 We'll take two or three questions.

02:55:40.000 I know it's getting late here, but.

02:55:41.000 Two or three questions for Andrew.

02:55:43.000 If you have any questions in the chat, yeah, let's see what we got.

02:55:51.000 Behops one said, I don't think Russia ever actually stopped being communist in the 90s, it was all an act.

02:55:58.000 Yeah, uh, go ahead.

02:56:00.000 What are you gonna say?

02:56:01.000 I mean, well, it's it's a good comment.

02:56:03.000 They just kind of changed from one totalitarian type of system to another.

02:56:09.000 There was a brief uh period of flux, uh, where it was different, but.

02:56:15.000 Putin has been in charge since, I think, 1999, basically.

02:56:20.000 So it's been a long time that he's been dictator of that country.

02:56:29.000 Let's go to the chat, take two more questions or comments.

02:56:35.000 Let's scroll up, a couple more questions.

02:56:52.000 Let's see.

02:56:52.000 There was a comment right here about the Boston bombers.

02:56:55.000 Where did it go? 1.00

02:56:56.000 Oh, Chechnya, just like the Boston bombers. 0.99

02:56:58.000 Remember them? 0.89

02:56:59.000 But then again, Graham Fuller of the CIA ran them. 0.95

02:57:02.000 Yeah, a lot of people don't remember that the Boston bombers, the Boston bombing attack that happened where you had these Chechnyan brothers, that's where they were from too.

02:57:12.000 They were from Chechnya and they carried out that attack, right?

02:57:16.000 They mass murdered.

02:57:16.000 Yeah.

02:57:17.000 They mass murdered.

02:57:18.000 What was it like?

02:57:19.000 A dozen Americans died.

02:57:21.000 I don't know the exact death count, but there was like 12 people, I think, were killed in the Boston bombing, including a small child.

02:57:28.000 Yeah, there's a sort of jihadist warrior culture there.

02:57:32.000 And our troops, American troops, encountered some of those people who were fighting as volunteers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

02:57:39.000 And they generally, when you hear what they say about it, they say that they were the fiercest fighters that they encountered over there.

02:57:46.000 Far, far, far more effective than your sort of regular Afghan soldiers.

02:57:51.000 And, you know, just to get back on the funding piece, too. 0.82

02:57:56.000 I think from an American perspective, when you look at $4 trillion spent on COVID, and then we see that 40% of it was fraud, right?

02:58:06.000 How can we give money to another country and expect there to be less fraud?

02:58:12.000 That was kind of my perspective going into it.

02:58:16.000 And I still have that perspective.

02:58:17.000 I just think that there's materials and sort of a trade, if you will, between okay, we have Patriot missiles, we have things that we can help you with.

02:58:28.000 We're going to extract knowledge and data and tactics and then integrate that into our units because this is coming, like you said, everywhere.

02:58:39.000 These drone attacks, whether they're on the homeland, whether it's China and Taiwan, whether it's in Iran. 1.00

02:58:47.000 I mean, arguably, the reason why we didn't land troops in some of these areas is because we just cannot defend against these Shahed drones organically within units on the ground, right? 1.00

02:59:01.000 It would require a change of. 1.00

02:59:03.000 Of doctrine, changes in TTP, and then building in all of those things to what each unit is doing.

02:59:10.000 And America could benefit from all of that.

02:59:13.000 So it's almost like a trade.

02:59:17.000 And Ukraine is like extremely willing to give all of that to the United States, which is what they offered in Iran.

02:59:29.000 I think they've offered the similar type of aid to Israel.

02:59:34.000 And so I think.

02:59:35.000 As part of any deal, you know, the United States really should follow its own best interests there and take them up on that.

02:59:44.000 Because for Russia, they believe they're at war with NATO as it begins.

02:59:49.000 When Ukrainians are captured and brought to prisoner of war camps in Russia, there are so many stories of their captors telling them, we will take you, we'll put you in the Russian military, which they often do, and then we'll take over the rest of Ukraine.

03:00:06.000 And then You will help us take over the rest of Europe. 0.80

03:00:09.000 I mean, that's really what they're doing. 0.77

03:00:11.000 And then the jihadist aspect of that, bringing in Islamists from Chechnya, from other parts of the world, is also a big part of that. 0.65

03:00:19.000 You see that in Belarus, where they're literally flying in plane loads of people who are refugees to sneak them into Poland.

03:00:28.000 There are tunnels that they use that through.

03:00:33.000 So this is not just Russia, it's their allies in the region as well that are using the same.

03:00:40.000 Tactics aligning this sort of Marxist jihadist movement for their own power, for their own empire. 0.54

03:00:50.000 Yeah, coming to America soon if people don't wake up and start pushing back on the woke Reich and the way that they're being utilized to usher in multipolarity. 0.68

03:00:59.000 People think it sounds crazy, but I'm telling you, that's the future if we don't stop it. 0.72

03:01:05.000 One more comment, one more question before we close out tonight.

03:01:08.000 Let's go back to the chat.

03:01:10.000 Let's see.

03:01:12.000 The Huckster said, Wow, what an eye opening show.

03:01:14.000 Thanks, Laura.

03:01:15.000 President Trump needs to hear this propaganda that's going on.

03:01:20.000 Yeah, definitely.

03:01:21.000 I'm glad that you all found it to be informative.

03:01:25.000 If you found the show to be informative tonight and you learned something new, put a one in the chat.

03:01:29.000 See how many people we have watching.

03:01:32.000 See a lot of people, but hopefully people's eyes are going to be opened.

03:01:32.000 Oh, yeah.

03:01:38.000 We have over 26,000 people watching live right now on X, and then that's not including Rumble, but hopefully people's eyes have been opened and that you learn something new because I don't think that.

03:01:51.000 There's anything wrong with admitting if you fell for Russian propaganda.

03:01:54.000 I think we all did.

03:01:55.000 I admit it.

03:01:56.000 You can have some humility and admit to it, but there's time to course correct.

03:02:02.000 We can course correct now.

03:02:03.000 You don't have to be blinded forever. 0.77

03:02:05.000 I'm not saying you have to automatically support sending your tax money to Ukraine, but you can oppose sending money to Ukraine, but also recognize what the Russians are doing to warp the minds of Americans and how you're being utilized as a tool for a foreign government online. 0.80

03:02:21.000 Take one more comment in question. 0.87

03:02:22.000 Let's see.

03:02:23.000 People are saying, Let's see.

03:02:31.000 Somebody said, I definitely fell for propaganda.

03:02:35.000 I'm trying to see where that went up.

03:02:37.000 Let's see.

03:02:37.000 Scroll down all the way, all the way to the bottom.

03:02:40.000 Let's see.

03:02:42.000 Better late than never.

03:02:43.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.82

03:02:54.000 Okay, Paula Bug said, Why does Russia want to replace Christians with Muslims?

03:02:58.000 Doesn't Russia know or believe ultimately Islam will completely take over their country? 1.00

03:03:04.000 Yeah, it's a great question. 0.98

03:03:06.000 They're able to repress every sect of Christianity, you know, and then use Russian orthodoxy for political purposes in this sort of Soviet style. 0.58

03:03:19.000 They do the same thing with Islam, you know, they kind of isolate violent jihadists and then use them in their military. 0.77

03:03:25.000 They're fine with violent jihadism as long as it's being used. 0.84

03:03:28.000 For their own political purposes, right?

03:03:31.000 And that's one of the things that Putin did when he put Kadirov where he is and he justified that war, I believe in Chechnya, through a false flag operation.

03:03:41.000 I mean, he blew up an apartment building and then said, oh, there was a terrorist attack.

03:03:46.000 Now we have to go in, and then crushed anyone who wouldn't come around to his point of view.

03:03:53.000 And Kadirov has free reign, basically, but Putin keeps him on a leash.

03:04:01.000 That's a great question.

03:04:02.000 But in sort of that totalitarian system, they're kept sort of under a lid and deployed against Russia's enemies whenever Putin feels like it.

03:04:16.000 Right.

03:04:17.000 Well, Andrew, thank you so much for traveling to Ukraine and spending a week there away from your family.

03:04:23.000 And I have a little baby.

03:04:25.000 So, you know, you spent a week away from your family.

03:04:29.000 And we really appreciate you basically putting your life in danger to get all of this footage into.

03:04:35.000 Open people's eyes.

03:04:36.000 You certainly opened my eyes.

03:04:38.000 Maybe we'll be able to go to Ukraine together someday and you can show me everything that you saw firsthand on the ground.

03:04:44.000 I think I would actually really enjoy visiting.

03:04:47.000 And like I said, I would be open to visiting Russia as well, not on a propaganda tour, but I don't feel like I would actually be safe if I were to visit Russia because you see the way that they jail people for simply questioning the government there.

03:05:03.000 I don't know.

03:05:04.000 I don't really feel like that would happen to me if I were to go to Ukraine. 0.55

03:05:07.000 In fact, even though I have.

03:05:10.000 Been critical of Ukraine's government, and I've said a lot of very inflammatory things about Ukraine.

03:05:17.000 People from Ukraine still seem eager for me to want to come and visit and learn about what's happening on the ground.

03:05:22.000 And so I think it's really interesting, too, just this whole dichotomy that exists between Ukraine and the press freedom that is extended to journalists as opposed to the press freedom that is extended to journalists in Russia.

03:05:36.000 And I'm not here to do a propaganda tour for Ukraine.

03:05:40.000 I'm just I'm just noticing how, even just being mildly critical of the influencers and simply pointing out online, oh, wow, Russia Today really seems to be like transforming their media operation into a clipper account for the Woke Reich.

03:05:55.000 Ever since I made that very mild comment about the Russian government and RT, they seem to be directing all of their propaganda towards me.

03:06:02.000 And so, every single day, when somebody in the Woke Reich makes a nasty comment about me, the Woke Reich clip is clipped and then it's amplified immediately by Russia Today.

03:06:13.000 And it's happened like 10 times in the last week alone.

03:06:16.000 So I don't know what's going on, but it definitely doesn't seem organic to me.

03:06:22.000 And it seems like something our own DOJ should probably start investigating because if they're doing it to me, how many other Americans are they targeting, right?

03:06:30.000 How many other Americans are they trying to undermine and lie about and incite hatred and violence toward online simply because they're pointing out the fact that Russian accounts are being used to amplify these anti American conspiracy theories?

03:06:45.000 But.

03:06:46.000 Is there anything else that you wanted to add, Andrew, before we close out?

03:06:52.000 You know, I think just overall, the takeaways from this trip and then this segment is there's just so much more that we could talk about this war, about all the different levels to it, because it's happening across so many different spheres.

03:07:16.000 And one of the advantages of going there was just seeing.

03:07:21.000 How some of these cultural things don't necessarily translate.

03:07:26.000 I mean, things like in Slavic culture, like being a beggar, for example, is viewed very, very negatively.

03:07:34.000 And that's why you saw General Budanov at the conference say, well, yes, we need help, but we are not beggars.

03:07:41.000 We do not hold our hand out for help from the United States, right?

03:07:45.000 And to an American audience, that I think sounds a little bit strange.

03:07:50.000 If you think that you need help or you want something, you sort of ask for it, you say something, you are your own best advocate.

03:07:58.000 So that's just a small kind of microcosm of the cultural and social differences that I noticed while I was over there.

03:08:07.000 And then also how deeply familiar with this fight against Russia, Ukraine is.

03:08:13.000 I mean, they've been fighting them not just since the Biden administration, but since 2014 when they kicked out their own.

03:08:22.000 Pro Russia dictator essentially, who now lives in Moscow, right?

03:08:27.000 Moscow is sort of an all expenses paid trip for anyone who hates the West.

03:08:34.000 Hamas goes there, the Iranian leadership goes there.

03:08:39.000 That's where formerly pro Russian leaders in Ukraine and other countries go.

03:08:46.000 And so I think just having this conversation is so important.

03:08:54.000 Seeing kind of the facts as they are today and how this situation has transformed over the last few years, this adds a huge amount of context, I think, for audiences who maybe don't pick up on all those nuances, don't see through these short news reports, this happened, this happened, but there's not really context, and they don't have time to sit there and read some long foreign policy piece that kind of unpacks some of this.

03:09:23.000 But really, there's not a lot of that out there, which is.

03:09:26.000 Why I think these kinds of honest conversations, this reporting that you're doing is so important, and why people in Ukraine, but it's not just Ukraine, it's Poland, it's people, others that I've talked to, Romania, sort of freedom movement folks in Belarusia, and even people who've escaped Russia are supportive of this.

03:09:51.000 And they understand completely this idea that there's a target on your back because you're speaking negatively about their preferred people.

03:09:58.000 The Candace Owens's, the Tucker Carlson's.

03:10:01.000 And so I just hope more people see through that.

03:10:04.000 I hope that you and I have a very nice political home in 2028 where we're not having to kind of think about where is our party on some of these foreign policy issues that are super critical. 0.67

03:10:16.000 And it can't be one that's aligned with Tucker and Candace and the Wilk Reich. 0.65

03:10:22.000 That wouldn't be good for anyone.

03:10:24.000 Absolutely.

03:10:25.000 I completely agree.

03:10:26.000 So thank you so much for your travels to Ukraine.

03:10:29.000 Thank you so much for.

03:10:30.000 The great footage that you took while you were in Ukraine.

03:10:33.000 And thank you so much for spending so much time on the program tonight talking to viewers and sharing your experience.

03:10:39.000 Where can people follow you if they want to follow you online and see your reporting?

03:10:45.000 So it's just more I am at M O O R E I am on Twitter.

03:10:45.000 Yeah.

03:10:52.000 And I'm posting footage as we get it.

03:10:55.000 There are some things that have not been cleared by the Ukrainian military in areas where we were at, embedded with units, other things that sort of wartime correspondents have to go through anywhere in the world.

03:11:09.000 So we'll be rolling out some of that.

03:11:11.000 We'll be rolling out more footage, though.

03:11:13.000 Yeah.

03:11:13.000 We'll be rolling out more footage.

03:11:16.000 You have to get approval because you were able to actually get access to some locations that are highly sensitive.

03:11:22.000 So we just have to make sure that some of the footage is blurred.

03:11:26.000 But just make sure that you're following me and you're following Andrew online, and we'll be releasing a lot of that footage over the next few weeks because it doesn't seem like this conflict is ending anytime soon. 0.74

03:11:37.000 And it seems like Russia is having a lot of success, unfortunately, manipulating the Woke Reich online and using their foreign influence operations to. 0.71

03:11:49.000 Get more Americans, especially conservative Americans, to completely turn against their own country and support Iran or support Russia over the United States. 0.69

03:11:59.000 Yeah.

03:12:00.000 Which is why they're targeting the largest podcasters, which is why they're targeting people like Tucker and Candace.

03:12:00.000 Yeah.

03:12:06.000 So people need to wake up and realize what's happening.

03:12:09.000 But luckily, you have helped open a lot of people's eyes.

03:12:13.000 So, Andrew, thank you so much for coming on.

03:12:14.000 I really appreciate it.

03:12:15.000 And hopefully, we'll have you back on the show soon.

03:12:19.000 Thank you.

03:12:20.000 Absolutely.

03:12:20.000 It's a pleasure.

03:12:21.000 Thank you so much.

03:12:22.000 Thank you.

03:12:26.000 Well, I hope that you all found this to be an informative episode tonight, and I hope that you learned something new.

03:12:32.000 I certainly did, and have been over these last several weeks since Andrew went to Ukraine.

03:12:40.000 And who knows, maybe I'll be visiting Ukraine in the near future as well, because I think more people need to start having their eyes opened and just start thinking have I been victimized by foreign propaganda?

03:12:52.000 Am I being played by.

03:12:54.000 Form propaganda?

03:12:56.000 Am I having my emotions manipulated or pried on by bots or by bad actors on social media who want to bottle up my energy and weaponize it for their own political purpose or for their own anti American goals?

03:13:13.000 So, just something to think of.

03:13:16.000 We don't really think about these things when we're logging on social media, but try to be more conscious of that when you are using social media.

03:13:25.000 I know that I'm starting to try to be a little bit more conscious of that as well.

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03:13:31.000 I find myself not really enjoying spending a lot of time on social media these days as I start to see just how prevalent all this foreign influence is. 0.99

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Loomer Unleashed - June 16, 2026

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