Loomer Unleashed - EP53: HUNTER GETS OFF: Joe Biden's Secret Plan to Commute His Son's Sentence as Trump Witch Hunt ContinuesEP53: HUNTER GETS OFF: Joe Biden's Secret Plan to Commute His Son's Sentence as Trump Witch Hunt Continues

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00:24:00.000 Good evening and welcome to episode 53 of Lumer Unleashed.

00:24:03.000 I'm your host, Laura Lumer.

00:24:05.000 On Tuesday, Hunter Biden was found guilty on all three counts in his federal gun crime case.

00:24:11.000 After deliberation, the jury determined that the son of the illegitimate President of the United States of America has violated laws prohibiting firearms ownership to illegal drug abusers.

00:24:21.000 And we all know how much of a drug user Hunter Biden is. 0.97

00:24:23.000 And we all know that Hunter Biden is a deplorable, vile human being. 1.00

00:24:28.000 Words cannot fully convey what a despicable piece of shit this guy actually is. 1.00

00:24:33.000 The laptop scandal, despite the Deep State's attempt to bury the story and falsely label it as Russian disinformation in a letter that was signed off on by 51 intelligence officials, 1.00

00:24:44.000 ...reveals that Hunter's life has revolved around near-constant drug abuse and prostitution.

00:24:49.000 From meth to crack cocaine, Hunter Biden seemed to have little preference as to which illegal substance he was taking.

00:24:56.000 While binging on these drugs and sleeping with hookers, he happily photographed himself naked and in the act, saving these images to his laptop for later viewing, apparently.

00:25:05.000 And unfortunately, you know, many of us have had to see those images.

00:25:10.000 But this only begins to scratch the surface of what Hunter Biden and the Biden family at large have been up to over the last few years.

00:25:17.000 Many people remember Joe Biden's other son, Beau, who died from a brain tumor back in 2015.

00:25:23.000 Few people, however, know that Beau's wife, Hallie, started hooking up and having sex with her brother-in-law, Hunter Biden, just a few months after Beau died, although many people believe that the affair actually began while Beau was alive but on his deathbed.

00:25:38.000 Talk about keeping it in the family, I suppose.

00:25:41.000 As was discussed in his trial, Hunter also got Hallie, you know, his dead brother's wife, hooked on crack.

00:25:47.000 So, very wholesome family, as you can see.

00:25:50.000 This is a known fact, but many have speculated that things are even more disturbing and disgusting behind closed doors.

00:25:56.000 Of particular focus is Hunter Biden's relationship with his niece, Natalie.

00:26:01.000 Once Natalie's father, Beau, died and her mother started a sexual relationship with her uncle, Hunter, things seem to have gotten a bit weird.

00:26:09.000 Text messages from Hunter's laptop indicate strange conversations about, and also directly with, Natalie.

00:26:15.000 Perhaps this echoes Joe Biden's own odd sexual interactions with his own daughter Ashley when she was younger, as she wrote about in her now infamous diary.

00:26:25.000 I'm of course referring to the nude showers together well into Ashley's adolescence, all of which has been documented in her diary, which of course has been verified as being true and legitimate by the DOJ and the FBI.

00:26:37.000 You know, a Florida woman just was sentenced to a month in jail for stealing the diary that was left behind at a drug rehab facility. 0.98

00:26:46.000 So without going into further detail, this all points to Hunter and the rest of the degenerate Biden family as being deeply disturbed and also intimately involved with non-stop criminal behavior.

00:26:59.000 I think for most of the people on the right, this comes as no surprise.

00:27:02.000 Many of the political families in America are like this.

00:27:05.000 The Bidens are simply having their skeletons exposed for the world to see.

00:27:09.000 Since Tuesday, the White House has predictably been busy running cover for Hunter Biden.

00:27:14.000 They actually have the gall to try spinning Hunter's conviction as a reaffirmation of the efficacy of the American judicial system and proof that no one is above the law.

00:27:25.000 They're using this talking point as a foil to the right's claims that President Donald Trump was just subjected to a corrupt kangaroo court in New York.

00:27:32.000 Apparently Hunter is now the sacrificial lamb that the left is going to use to try to get all of us to buy back into the legitimacy of our broken justice system.

00:27:41.000 What a joke.

00:27:42.000 Joe Biden has also used Hunter's guilty conviction to gaslight the American people into believing that his son Hunter Biden is a so-called recovered addict.

00:27:52.000 Just don't ask any questions about who brought those bags of cocaine into the White House a few months ago.

00:27:58.000 You see, the difference between the two cases is extreme, but that matters little to the left. 0.94

00:28:04.000 While Donald Trump was found guilty of dozens of felony counts of alleged false business reporting, a nebulous claim to begin with if we're being honest here, there is literal photographic evidence of Hunter Biden smoking crack in bed with hookers and prostitutes.

00:28:18.000 I shouldn't even need to point out how different these two cases are, and I think most Americans get it.

00:28:24.000 However, while it is important to highlight the crimes and corruption of America's first family, we cannot allow ourselves to become too distracted with this obvious sideshow. 0.69

00:28:33.000 We cannot get sucked into this game of whataboutism with the left.

00:28:37.000 They're literally trying to gaslight all of us into thinking that Trump's trial was fair after all, that Judge Mershawn was unbiased, and that, you know, our judicial system in this country isn't rigged.

00:28:47.000 But we all know better than that, and we know that our system is rigged, and so we must stick to our guns on this issue.

00:28:54.000 Yes, actually, our court system is rigged against right-wingers and President Trump.

00:28:58.000 Yes, there is an expansive legal witch hunt underway

00:29:03.000 To attempt to obstruct Trump from campaigning.

00:29:05.000 This is election interference.

00:29:07.000 And yes, the deep state will do everything in their power to prevent Donald Trump from winning.

00:29:12.000 And should they fail, they will do whatever is necessary to keep his new administration under wraps.

00:29:17.000 We must keep our eyes focused on the prize this November and beyond.

00:29:21.000 And if we're being honest, Joe Biden will probably just pardon his son.

00:29:25.000 He said he wasn't going to.

00:29:26.000 But he'll probably just end up commuting Hunter Biden's sentence on his way out of office anyway.

00:29:32.000 You know, and they'll just say it's an issue of semantics.

00:29:34.000 I never said I was going to pardon my son.

00:29:35.000 I said I wasn't going to pardon my son.

00:29:37.000 I never said that I wasn't going to commute his sentence.

00:29:39.000 Because there is an obvious difference, of course, between a pardon and a commutation of somebody's sentence.

00:29:46.000 But, you know, when we really get down to things, Hunter Biden's antics aren't really going to move the dial on Election Day this November.

00:29:53.000 I don't think anyone is going into the polls this fall with Hunter Biden's meth and crack addiction at the forefront of their mind.

00:29:59.000 Let's be honest, we already knew about this in 2020.

00:30:02.000 They're far more likely to be thinking about Donald Trump's plan to fix our screwed-up economy, to secure our open border, and to end the violent conflicts flaring around the world on U.S.

00:30:13.000 taxpayers' dime.

00:30:15.000 That is what all of us in MAGA and in the right-wing media sphere should be focusing on.

00:30:19.000 Energizing the MAGA base, articulating the policies of a second Trump term, and ensuring that the future Trump administration is not infiltrated and co-opted by rhinos and leftists. 0.50

00:30:31.000 That is the mission, period.

00:30:33.000 There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.

00:30:42.000 If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, 0.72

00:30:47.000 Our problems will be fixed in about five minutes.

00:30:48.000 Chained herself to Twitter.

00:30:50.000 Is she chained? 0.86

00:35:55.000 He's basically having to play babysitter because Joe Biden is dazed and confused going through his sundowners phase.

00:36:04.000 We have to listen to Joe Biden talk about how his son, oh, my son Hunter, he's just the brightest man I've ever met in my life, and oh, my son Hunter, he's such a good guy, and he's a recovered addict, and oh, there's so many Americans that are struggling with addiction, and oh, I'm so relatable because my son, who's a recovered addict, who's not actually a recovered addict because, you know, Secret Service keeps finding bags of cocaine, and

00:36:30.000 Oh, I guess that puts me in a tough position because, oh, I guess people are going to start asking questions about whether or not that's my cocaine because I'm obviously on drugs because, you know, I'm crapping my pants overseas and I can't function.

00:36:43.000 So, is it my cocaine or is it my son's cocaine?

00:36:45.000 And if it's my son's cocaine, I can't really keep going around calling him a recovered addict.

00:36:50.000 I mean, that's really what we're dealing with here, folks, okay?

00:36:52.000 Everybody knows that Joe Biden's son is not a recovered addict.

00:36:56.000 It's the most abusive form of emotional manipulation and gaslighting as this administration continues to have an open southern border with fentanyl pouring across.

00:37:06.000 Every single day, innocent Americans are dying in either intentional or unintentional drug overdoses because of the drug epidemic in our country, which has only gotten worse with Joe Biden's open borders.

00:37:18.000 It's an insult.

00:37:18.000 It's an insult to the many Americans in this country who not only struggle with addiction issues, but the many Americans who can't afford rehab.

00:37:27.000 I mean, we're talking about Hunter Biden, the son of

00:37:30.000 We're good to go.

00:37:51.000 Where you can go.

00:37:52.000 They have these things in Malibu.

00:37:53.000 They have them in Hawaii.

00:37:55.000 They have them all over, actually.

00:37:57.000 They have them overseas.

00:37:58.000 They even have them in your own home if you're rich enough and you pay for your own private doctor.

00:38:15.000 I find it to be incredibly insulting when Joe Biden says that his son is a recovered addict because

00:38:20.000 Look, the cocaine didn't just find its way in the White House randomly.

00:38:24.000 It either belongs to Joe Biden so that he can stay awake...

00:40:41.000 A lot of people have had their sentence commuted.

00:40:43.000 Roger didn't ask for a pardon.

00:40:45.000 He wanted his sentence commuted.

00:40:46.000 So he received a sentence commutation.

00:40:51.000 Was found guilty, okay?

00:40:52.000 And he's going to be sentenced.

00:40:55.000 And Joe Biden could still be telling the truth when he says, I'm not going to pardon my son.

00:41:00.000 Notice that Joe Biden, excuse me, did not say, oh, I'm not going to commute my son's sentence, right?

00:41:08.000 He said, I'm not going to pardon my son.

00:41:11.000 So it's really important because there's a big difference between getting a pardon and then also having your sentence commuted.

00:41:18.000 And Joe Biden very well could commute his son's sentence.

00:41:21.000 And I noticed that nobody's talking about, you know, nobody has asked him, Hey, are you going to commute your son's sentence?

00:41:28.000 Because Joe Biden will just say, Hey, you know, I'm on sentence, but I kept my promise.

00:41:33.000 I never pardoned my son.

00:41:35.000 I'm not, I said, I wasn't going to pardon my son.

00:41:39.000 So a lot of people have not really thought about that.

00:41:41.000 Do we have that clip from Joe Biden before we bring Rick on?

00:41:45.000 Let's actually play that clip, because I'll talk to Rick about this as well when he joins.

00:41:50.000 But I want to play the clip so that people can hear the words, because it's an issue of semantics, this question that Joe Biden was asked.

00:41:57.000 And let's go ahead and play the clip.

00:41:59.000 This is from his United States-Ukraine press conference on the bilateral security agreement in Italy today.

00:42:06.000 Where he answered questions next to Zelensky.

00:42:09.000 Barely.

00:42:10.000 Had to leave the stage early after stuttering his words.

00:42:12.000 So go ahead and play the clip.

00:42:14.000 About two weeks ago, you changed course to allow Ukraine to fire U.S.

00:42:18.000 weapons into Russia.

00:42:20.000 Given the reported successes, would you consider further expanding the parameters on U.S.

00:42:24.000 weapons into Russia, even despite your concerns about escalation?

00:42:28.000 And on the news from home, you're going through something that so many American families go through, the intersection of addiction and the criminal justice system.

00:42:37.000 But you're not like most families.

00:42:39.000 Was your son able to get a fair trial?

00:42:41.000 Do you believe the Justice Department operated independently of politics?

00:42:46.000 And for President... Let me answer your question and you ask his question, okay?

00:42:51.000 With regard to the first question, it is clear that the near abroad, meaning just across the line of the border with Russia and Ukraine,

00:43:05.000 That it makes a lot of sense for Ukraine to be able to take out or combat what is coming across that border.

00:43:12.000 In terms of long, long range weapons, longer range weapons into the interior of Russia, we have not changed our position on that sort.

00:43:21.000 With regard to the question regarding the family, I'm extremely proud of my son, Hunter.

00:43:27.000 He has overcome an addiction.

00:43:28.000 He is.

00:43:29.000 He's one of the brightest, most decent men I know, and I am satisfied

00:43:35.000 That I'm not going to do anything.

00:43:37.000 I said I abide by the jury decision.

00:43:40.000 I will do that.

00:43:41.000 And I will not pardon him.

00:43:47.000 So I will not pardon him.

00:43:48.000 He didn't say, I will not, uh, you know, commute his sentence.

00:43:52.000 So joining me now to discuss is Rick Manning, the president of Americans for Limited Government.

00:43:59.000 Rick, thanks so much for joining me tonight.

00:44:01.000 I really appreciate it.

00:44:02.000 My pleasure, Laura.

00:44:03.000 You know, one of the things as we look at the Hunter Biden situation, we can't let there be an equivalency here.

00:44:10.000 Let's understand Hunter Biden broke the law.

00:44:14.000 And, you know, the Justice Department attempted to bury that.

00:44:17.000 They attempted to say that the laptop which led them to this revelation was invalid for four years.

00:44:25.000 They sat on it.

00:44:26.000 They denied it.

00:44:27.000 They got so-called intelligence officials to say it was Russian disinformation.

00:44:32.000 And then they entered it into actual evidence, saying, no, this is all true, which causes other problems for Joe Biden.

00:44:39.000 But be that as it may, Hunter Biden was guilty of something.

00:44:43.000 Donald Trump, on the other hand, had a judge who, as you disclosed, was conflicted.

00:44:48.000 His daughter was raising huge amounts of money off of the trial.

00:44:52.000 He had a judge who was making decisions that said, gee, we're not going to let you talk to anybody and bring in Brad Smith from the FEC to show that, in fact, there was no underlying crime or no federal crime that was being avoided.

00:45:07.000 He was not guilty of anything on a federal level.

00:45:10.000 And so the whole reason, the whole rationale behind the Trump trial, the Trump prosecution, was false.

00:45:17.000 And the jury was never allowed to hear that.

00:45:20.000 The entire premise of the trial in New York was to get President Trump.

00:45:25.000 It had nothing to do with justice, and he committed no crimes.

00:45:28.000 Hence, but the jury was not allowed by the judge, whose daughter was making a lot of money on this,

00:45:37.000 was not allowed to actually hear the defense's case that there was no underlying crime.

00:45:44.000 And so they were left with an impression there was an underlying crime that was false.

00:45:50.000 And as a result, beyond the fact that there's constitutional violations, this is a travesty and the Republicans

00:45:58.000 Need to get off the idea of the Hunter, talking about the Hunter Biden thing, because that's meaningless except for the proof that the FBI buried the laptop.

00:46:06.000 What matters is we have our candidate for president who is likely going to be accepting his Republican nomination from behind bars.

00:46:06.000 Right.

00:46:16.000 That's what matters, the manipulation that exists.

00:46:20.000 And Laura, you know, I appreciate the work you've done to uncover the spending and the massive

00:46:26.000 Uh conflict of financial conflict of interest that exists and to complement that we've put up a take action to urge uh members of congress to tell direct and tell James Comer chairman of the house oversight and accountability committee to tell him to issue subpoenas to both the daughter and the judge

00:46:48.000 And say, we need to get to the bottom of this.

00:46:50.000 Was there connections?

00:46:51.000 Were you communicating about the financial value of this?

00:46:55.000 And was this, in fact, a rigged trial based on an effort by a judge to get a lot of money into his family's coffers?

00:47:04.000 Yeah, you know I saw the call to action and we have that now.

00:47:08.000 The first call to action which was urging lawsuits to be filed by different United States Attorneys General's against the New York State Supreme Court for basically violating the constitutional rights of President Donald Trump and really just not upholding his due process.

00:47:28.000 I didn't see the call to action for

00:47:32.000 If anybody goes to getliberty.org it should be up there and there's a button you just push the button you can take action.

00:47:45.000 Okay great.

00:47:47.000 I know that that was updated later earlier today but I know that this one that we're looking at right now the United States Attorney General to sue New York

00:47:57.000 Will the New York Supreme Court to stop election interference and overturn the Trump conviction if we want to get that full screen here so people can see it?

00:48:04.000 Where do people go so that they can sign this?

00:48:08.000 Yeah, if you go to GetLiberty.org, that's GetLiberty.org, there's a button that you can push.

00:48:15.000 It's right there on the top of the screen, you know, in the middle of the screen when you pull it up.

00:48:18.000 Just push the button.

00:48:19.000 It'll take you directly to this page.

00:48:21.000 And here's what we're doing.

00:48:22.000 This is why we're doing this.

00:48:24.000 A lot of people out there have given money and are doing everything they can think of.

00:48:27.000 Well, one of the things that I think needs to happen to make sure the Supreme Court, the U.S.

00:48:32.000 Supreme Court, gets involved is to have state attorney generals to sue the state of New York.

00:48:40.000 Because if you have two states suing one another, or one state suing another state, the Supreme Court is the court of jurisdiction.

00:48:49.000 So, the Supreme Court, that goes to the Supreme Court.

00:48:53.000 They have to deal with it.

00:48:54.000 Now, they may choose not to deal with it.

00:48:56.000 They may say, oh, well, State, you have no standing on this, but they have to deal with it.

00:49:02.000 And given the fact that President Trump is appealing, we need to force the Supreme Court to not just ignore this, not to do what they did with the Pennsylvania case before the 2020 election, where they said, well, Pennsylvania, state of Pennsylvania changed their laws, held an illegal election by allowing voters, people to vote absentee who were not absentee, just do mail-in ballots.

00:49:25.000 That was illegal under Pennsylvania law.

00:49:27.000 The Supreme Court said, no, we're going to wait until after the election.

00:49:29.000 And then after the election, they said, well, sorry, it's too late.

00:49:32.000 The election's already been held.

00:49:33.000 We can't allow that to occur with this election.

00:49:35.000 We have to, with this situation, this is election interference and the people of Idaho, just as the people of Idaho, the people of Florida, people of Texas deserve to be able to have a fair and honest election.

00:49:46.000 And when the state of New York is putting their thumb on the scale and allowing people to believe, Oh, president Trump was guilty of something.

00:49:53.000 And you're now, and skews the entire outcome of this election based on that kind of rhetoric.

00:50:00.000 That's something which has to be dealt with, and the Supreme Court has to say no.

00:50:05.000 You can't violate a man's Sixth Amendment right to know what he's being charged with and get away with it because you're trying to manipulate the election.

00:50:14.000 You cannot do that.

00:50:15.000 The state of New York, you are wrong.

00:50:20.000 To me, it seems the state attorney generals, the attorneys general, whether it's Idaho, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, don't care.

00:50:29.000 They have a responsibility to step in and say, I'm representing the people of my state.

00:50:34.000 We have a right to have a fair shot to win this election. 0.99

00:50:36.000 And darn it, Supreme Court, you need to step in. 0.98

00:50:40.000 That's your job. 0.98

00:50:42.000 So what are you going to do with the information that's collected on these forms?

00:50:46.000 Because, you know, a lot of people will say, oh, you know, these forms are just used to collect email addresses.

00:50:51.000 But what's actually going to be done?

00:50:53.000 Because I know that you today were actually, I spoke with you earlier today, and you were actually up on Capitol Hill meeting with lawmakers.

00:50:59.000 And so you are actually planning on taking this information to lawmakers, correct?

00:51:06.000 And you are having meetings with the Speaker's office.

00:51:09.000 I'm calling State Attorney Generals this week and next, following up on this, to try to encourage them to actually take action.

00:51:32.000 Um, but having people from in state contacting them directly is one of the best ways to set the stage for them to go ahead and do this.

00:51:41.000 Those calls, those emails that you sent to state attorney generals are following up a letter which we sent to them laying out the legal case for why they should do this.

00:51:51.000 In terms of what happens, we have there on the form, there's an opt-in.

00:51:56.000 If you receive, even from Americans for Limited, we'll sell your information, anything like that, but if you want to receive the daily information that we send out, different articles on different issues that are going on that we produce, it is a, you know, then you can opt in and you get that.

00:52:12.000 If you don't, opt out and you don't.

00:52:14.000 And that's all that happens with your information.

00:52:17.000 So, you know, you're going to be communicating in that instance with your state attorney general,

00:52:22.000 And obviously, it's hoped that your state attorney general is responsive enough that they'll email you back and thank you for contacting them.

00:52:30.000 But if you don't want to receive anything else from us ever again, fine, just opt out.

00:52:35.000 I don't know.

00:52:56.000 No, we have the other side against freedom in this country and we have to have those we elected to protect our Constitution to stand up and say we will not allow this to occur and that's why the State Attorney General need to get involved.

00:53:11.000 They need to grow, you know, say this is worth it.

00:53:15.000 This is a fight worth having and that's what we're trying to do because quite honestly

00:53:20.000 We cannot let President Trump stand alone and bear this while Republicans sit there and want to talk about Hunter Biden and try to create some kind of equivalency.

00:53:29.000 So you agree with the monologue?

00:53:31.000 I mean, in my opening monologue tonight I talked about this, how really it's really nothing more than a distraction because they want to pretend like we have a fair justice system and it's being used to distract and also delegitimize President Trump and make him look like a crybaby even though he has, you know, a just grievance and acts to grind.

00:53:52.000 President Trump is not behaving like a crybaby like the media is saying.

00:53:57.000 I mean, I see the leftist media says,

00:53:59.000 Oh, Donald Trump just wants to cry about, you know, his guilty verdict and how he's treated and his grievances.

00:54:05.000 No, you know, President Trump has been mistreated and this is a rigged system.

00:54:09.000 And, I mean, do you agree with my analysis of this?

00:54:12.000 I think that it's a semantics game.

00:54:15.000 I think that Joe Biden is saying, I'm not going to pardon my son, but then in the end, he's just going to commute his son's sentence.

00:54:21.000 And then people are going to say, hey, you lied.

00:54:23.000 You said that you weren't going to pardon your son.

00:54:26.000 And then he's going to say, oh, I kept my promise.

00:54:28.000 There's a difference between a pardon and a commutation.

00:54:31.000 Well, first of all, I think for 95% of the people out there, they don't give one wit what happens to Hunter Biden.

00:54:40.000 The truth be told, the guy's a drug addict, he bought a gun, he lied on the form, and he's been found guilty of doing that.

00:54:48.000 I think the piece of it in the LA trial that'll happen later on, related to the financial connections around the world, and some of those things that were discovered through the laptop, I think that's far more significant, because it directly relates to the President.

00:55:03.000 But the truth of the matter is, the danger of this is,

00:55:10.000 An outpouring of people around this country who are saying this is wrong.

00:55:16.000 We have ACLU liberal lawyers saying it is inconceivable that Donald Trump was found guilty in this case.

00:55:25.000 We have this awakening that's occurring.

00:55:27.000 About the kind of the woke attempt to destroy Donald Trump at all costs and the damage it's doing to our system of justice.

00:55:36.000 We have to stand up for the rule of law and we have to demand, and I'm using that term, I don't use the term demand when it comes to legislators very often, but we have to demand that our legislators grow a pair and stand up for the rule of law and stand up against this

00:55:53.000 Because quite honestly, I'm tired of Roger Stone being rousted at 6 a.m.

00:55:58.000 and dragged off, Paul Manafort being rousted at 6 a.m.

00:56:02.000 and being dragged off.

00:56:03.000 I'm tired of Steve Bannon, the Congress, saying, well, gee, you know, you didn't follow the subpoena, when in fact, he was seeking a judicial relief, and after the judicial relief was not granted, he said, I'll come talk to you.

00:56:17.000 And the Congress said, no, no, the Democrats, we don't really want to talk to you, we want to jail you.

00:56:21.000 So Steve Bannon being marched out to jail.

00:56:23.000 There is a systematic attempt by the left to effectively take out those who are leaders for Donald Trump.

00:56:31.000 The Fannie Willis case is about trying to eliminate the lawyers who support Donald Trump.

00:56:35.000 Every one of these cases has something to do with negating the ability for Donald Trump

00:56:40.000 To be able to run an effective campaign and to create an environment where he cannot win.

00:56:45.000 And if we don't stand up for those people, we elect don't stand up and say, we will not put up with this.

00:56:51.000 If they don't do that, then quite honestly.

00:56:55.000 It's a we're in deep trouble.

00:56:58.000 And it's up to we have those of us who understand this need to explain it to those who are think sitting in Washington, D.C.

00:57:04.000 or in their state capitals thinking, oh, well, it's just business as usual.

00:57:08.000 It isn't business as usual.

00:57:09.000 The system, the very fabric of society has been torn.

00:57:13.000 And it's really hard to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

00:57:16.000 We have to stand up now.

00:57:17.000 So why do you think then, why do you think that none of the Republicans have issued subpoenas?

00:57:21.000 Because we have a clip actually, Loomer Unleashed, we, my DC correspondent Charles Downs, actually confronted Comer, of course, who has the subpoena power.

00:57:33.000 And, you know, Chairman Comer

00:57:36.000 Well, from our sources and my reporting, we reported a story about how Comer's been blocking efforts to send a subpoena to Lauren Mershon, the daughter of Judge Mershon, who of course is the president of Authentic Campaigns, a Democrat political consulting firm.

00:57:52.000 And when we asked, you know, Chairman Comer, hey, what about this report that says that you're blocking a subpoena,

00:57:58.000 Chairman Comer.

00:58:20.000 Why won't you subpoena Lorimer, Sean?

00:58:22.000 There's, like, reports that, like, that wanted to go down, but you blocked it.

00:58:25.000 Is that true?

00:58:25.000 That is not true.

00:58:26.000 That is 100% a lie.

00:58:27.000 100% a lie?

00:58:28.000 100% a lie.

00:58:29.000 All right, just confirming, you're saying those reports that you blocked the subpoenas are lies?

00:58:33.000 That is 100% a lie.

00:58:41.000 So what do you think about that?

00:58:44.000 Well, you know, here's how subpoenas work in the House. 0.99

00:58:49.000 A chairman can say we want to subpoena something, but it has to be approved through the Speaker's office.

00:58:54.000 So if there is a subpoena that they've been trying to get done, and Comer isn't blocking it, then he's, by inference, saying that Speaker Johnson's blocking it.

00:59:05.000 I don't actually believe that's probable.

00:59:09.000 We may be dealing with a semantic situation here, but the proof's in the pudding.

00:59:13.000 No, he's either going to issue a subpoena or not.

00:59:15.000 And that's why we put this take action together that's separate from the New York Attorney General lawsuit that you can find liberty.org.

00:59:22.000 It should be right a button right there on the front page of that of that website, which is our kind of corporate website.

00:59:29.000 Go there, push the button.

00:59:32.000 And the first thing we do is we we don't tell you to send an email right off.

00:59:36.000 We give the phone number for the House Oversight Committee and say, call the House Oversight Committee and ask them where the subpoena is.

00:59:42.000 Okay.

00:59:43.000 And so the objective here is to get hundreds of thousands of people to call that committee and demand that we stop and we try to get to the bottom of the corruption that exists when a daughter is making millions of dollars, having money directly delivered to her home,

01:00:04.000 The judge himself is denying witnesses that would be exculpatory for President Trump.

01:00:15.000 He might just be a really bad judge, or he might be somebody whose daughter's making a lot of money, and a conviction was in his family's financial interests, and there was no other outcome that could be imagined.

01:00:29.000 Either way,

01:00:30.000 The House Oversight and Accountability Committee has a duty, sworn duty, to get to the bottom of this election interference and get to the bottom of it right now.

01:00:39.000 It just really, it's mind-blowing, right?

01:00:42.000 President Trump was up on Capitol Hill today and he met with House Republicans and, you know, the GOP Senate leadership as well, and they say, you know, they're 100% united, but don't you think that it's a little bit disingenuous for them to say that they're 100% united?

01:00:58.000 If they truly were 100% united, right, wouldn't that mean, mathematically, that we would have 100% endorsements for Donald Trump?

01:01:05.000 We still have 12 United States Senators, Rick, who have not endorsed Donald Trump.

01:01:09.000 We still have several members of Congress in the Republican Party, including Thomas Massey, who has not endorsed President Trump.

01:01:18.000 And I think that that's a problem.

01:01:20.000 And it just goes to show you

01:01:22.000 You know, we're not going to see subpoenas.

01:01:23.000 We're not going to see action taken on these matters or the calls to action if we can't even get Republicans United to support Trump.

01:01:31.000 And they can have their press conferences all they want, like they did today, and say that they support Trump.

01:01:35.000 But I find it to be a little disingenuous.

01:01:38.000 What did you think about President Trump's return to Washington, D.C.

01:01:42.000 today?

01:01:43.000 Well, I thought it was important that he

01:01:46.000 On a failed race!

01:02:06.000 Yeah, they want to spend, yeah, in Maryland for a Senate race.

01:02:09.000 We're not going to win Maryland.

01:02:10.000 We're not going to win Maryland.

01:02:12.000 And you know, it's so funny.

01:02:13.000 It's so funny, Rick.

01:02:15.000 It's funny that you bring this up, because, you know, Larry Hogan's fundraising emails today, I saw that he doubled down and said, oh, well, if Donald Trump wants to endorse me, I'm still not going to support him, just like I didn't support him in 2016 and 2020.

01:02:29.000 But he's fundraising off of Donald Trump's indictments.

01:02:33.000 If you look at the NRSC emails that are going out,

01:02:37.000 Larry Hogan is actually raising money off of Donald Trump's image, name, and likeness. 0.87

01:02:41.000 So if he's going to be a jerk and reject Trump's endorsement and then also say, oh, I'm not going to support the GOP nominee, then maybe President Trump should send him a cease and desist so that he can't use his image, name, and likeness for his fundraising emails anymore. 0.80

01:02:56.000 Well, he'll have to send the NRSC a cease and desist. 0.98

01:02:59.000 And unfortunately,

01:03:01.000 I think he's kind of signed over his image and likeness to the political parties, and I think that was a mistake on his part.

01:03:09.000 I will tell you this.

01:03:11.000 I live in Maryland.

01:03:12.000 I've known Larry Hogan.

01:03:13.000 I first met Larry Hogan in 1994.

01:03:15.000 I've met with him over time on various things.

01:03:23.000 Truth be told,

01:03:26.000 I, when a guy gets up there and says, I'm not, I'm going to vote whatever's in the best interest of Maryland.

01:03:32.000 I'm not going to vote based on party.

01:03:34.000 Then I don't, then single, the only rationale for voting for Larry Hogan in the general election is that he's going to vote for a Republican to be the majority leader.

01:03:43.000 I don't have any evidence that he's going to vote for a Republican as majority leader because he may view a Democrat as being the right answer for Maryland in terms of majority leader.

01:03:52.000 I said, Sarah and runs.

01:03:54.000 Saying I'm attacking Trump, supporting the Trump impeachments.

01:04:04.000 Who's continually sought to undercut President Trump.

01:04:09.000 And we can have political differences, but there's no uniting behind Trump for Larry Hogan.

01:04:15.000 And he can't expect me, as somebody who lives in Maryland and runs an organization, although we're based in Virginia, we have a lot of people who live in Maryland who are part of our organization.

01:04:25.000 To expect me to then endorse him based on some party loyalty, when in fact he has no party loyalty himself.

01:04:32.000 And given that, I would rather have somebody shooting from outside the tent at us than have somebody inside the tent shooting us in the back.

01:04:44.000 Larry Hogan has lost my vote as somebody who supports Donald Trump.

01:04:48.000 And I think anybody in a circumstance like this has to strongly consider whether or not somebody who is avowedly never Trump can be trusted in a world where the left is going to continually be angling to get Trump.

01:05:05.000 And I'm thinking particularly after you've had a midterm election in 2026 and you have a likely, you know,

01:05:13.000 At least one of the houses taken over by the Democrats in 2027 and likely another impeachment of Trump because that's all the Democrats know how to do.

01:05:22.000 They don't have policies.

01:05:23.000 They just want to impeach Trump.

01:05:24.000 So it doesn't matter what the issue is.

01:05:26.000 They'll find a way to impeach him.

01:05:28.000 I don't want Larry Hogan being standing up first thing and saying, yeah, he needs to be impeached because he's seeking some kind of a headline in the Washington Post.

01:05:35.000 And quite honestly, don't trust him.

01:05:38.000 Won't vote for him.

01:05:39.000 And, you know, he can't tell me, or he shouldn't be able to tell anybody, gee, we have to come around and because the only vote that really matters is the first one.

01:05:48.000 Well, I'm sorry, but no, the votes that matter are the ones where we sit there and we're trying to get something done and we're stuck trying to wait on a Murkowski and a Hogan and Collins trying to figure out how to get a Supreme Court justice confirmed.

01:06:06.000 I don't trust him.

01:06:07.000 I don't want him there.

01:06:08.000 I certainly don't want him being the headline in the Washington Post saying,

01:06:11.000 Hogan breaks ranks on every single issue, providing an out for every other Republican is a squish to be able to say and run away from Trump. 0.96

01:06:19.000 I mean, heck with him.

01:06:21.000 Absolutely.

01:06:22.000 And good on you for saying you're not going to vote for him because, you know, so many people would say, oh, you know, I'm just going to vote for a guy with an R next to his name, even if he is basically like a Democrat, like a Mitt Romney, you know, like a Mitt Romney who didn't even show up to the meeting today with President Trump.

01:06:37.000 Well, you know what?

01:06:39.000 Mitt Romney doesn't support Trump and it's somewhat honest of him not to show up.

01:06:43.000 But it just reminds us how lucky we are that he said he wasn't going to run again because he couldn't get reelected in Utah.

01:06:49.000 And that's why voting matters.

01:06:51.000 It's why getting involved early matters.

01:06:53.000 It's why letting these guys know, hey, you're either going to vote my interest or you're not going to vote my interest, but you're not going to vote my interest.

01:07:00.000 I'm not going to vote for you.

01:07:03.000 Well, it's great that you're a Trump ally, and it's great that you're using your organization to raise awareness about the witch hunt and the abuse of our justice system and weaponized government. 0.51

01:07:13.000 What are some other measures that Americans for Limited Government are working on right now, and some other legislative issues or, I guess, public advocacy issues that you're pushing right now?

01:07:27.000 Laura, one of my passions is draining the swamp.

01:07:32.000 This is something that we've been working on for a long time.

01:07:35.000 And one of the reasons I go around the Hill was on the Hill today was to talk to the legislators about when Trump wins, first thing out of the box, doing a reduction in force to the federal workforce, 10 to 20%, doing a buy-in so you get people to retire early so we can replace them with people who are going to be

01:07:57.000 pushing a legitimate civil service goal of the political's agenda, the elected president's agenda, which is what the civil service is supposed to do.

01:08:07.000 Talked about how to deal with some of the regulations and cut the regulations out and use some of the legislative processes to do that and what needs to be done now to get that done.

01:08:16.000 And also how to streamline the firing system so public employees who sit there and they take sometimes a year to a year and a half to get somebody fired

01:08:27.000 Move.

01:08:28.000 He physically abused their co-workers and he can't get them fired.

01:08:32.000 And there's a way to fix that.

01:08:34.000 And so I talked to him about that also.

01:08:36.000 So draining the swamp matters because ultimately if we don't drain the swamp, Donald Trump as the elected representative will spend every single day swimming against a strong current of people who refuse, refuse to pull the levers of power to do what he was elected to do.

01:08:52.000 And that is a, and the administrative state cannot win.

01:08:55.000 We have to, we have to make,

01:08:57.000 The bureaucrats responsive to the elected officials rather than the bureaucrats driving the policy regardless of who gets elected.

01:09:06.000 That's called elective.

01:09:07.000 That's our democratic republic that we have.

01:09:10.000 That's how it's set up and right now it's upside down.

01:09:12.000 We got to fix it.

01:09:14.000 Absolutely, and hopefully we can elect some Republicans that actually have a pair, because unfortunately we saw during President Trump's first administration, when we had control of the House, the Senate, and the White House, he was kind of

01:09:29.000 You know, he was kind of handicapped in a sense, not by his own doing, but by feckless Republicans that just didn't, like you said, want to actually use the levers of powers accordingly.

01:09:39.000 And we see now that now even Republicans are coming to their senses only after, right, only after Donald Trump was found guilty.

01:09:48.000 We're good to go.

01:10:09.000 And my question is, why wasn't this all done on day one of the illegitimate Biden administration?

01:10:15.000 Why weren't the House Republicans utilizing the power of the purse to shut the government down and defund the FBI or actually force the firing of these political appointees?

01:10:27.000 If I were in Congress, and we all know I ran for Congress twice, what I would do is I would be advocating for a government shutdown if Republicans had control of the House.

01:10:38.000 And I would say, okay, if you want your government to be reopened, then you're going to fire these political appointees at the DOJ who really cannot be removed from office unless they are fired because they're not elected officials.

01:10:51.000 Get rid of the head of the FBI, get rid of the head of the DOJ, and then we will fund the DOJ and then we will fund the FBI.

01:10:57.000 But you're not getting an ounce or a dollar of funding until you fire these bureaucrats who have abused their power. 1.00

01:11:06.000 But the Republicans, of course, say, oh, well, we can't shut down the government.

01:11:10.000 Why not?

01:11:10.000 They shut down the government in 2019.

01:11:12.000 Remember when the Democrats shut it down because, oh, they don't want to give Donald Trump $5.7 billion for a border wall.

01:11:19.000 But hey, we're going to send $400 billion to Ukraine so Zelensky can shove it up his nose or, I don't know, whatever he does with the $400 billion.

01:11:30.000 Yeah, well, when you send $400 billion and you don't have anybody accounting for it,

01:11:35.000 You know, you can be certain that a certain percentage of it's ending up in Swiss bank accounts, but I don't know.

01:11:43.000 I mean, I'm just saying the guy seems to have the snivels a lot, so I don't know.

01:11:47.000 Maybe, maybe he shares hobbies with Hunter Biden.

01:11:49.000 Who knows?

01:11:49.000 Maybe, maybe there, maybe that's why Joe spent so much time in Ukraine.

01:11:53.000 What I know is this, what I know about that is there aren't 218 Republicans who feel the way you do.

01:12:00.000 Okay.

01:12:01.000 And unfortunately,

01:12:02.000 The rule in the House of Representatives is 218 rules.

01:12:05.000 If you've got 218, you can do anything.

01:12:08.000 If you don't have it, you can't do anything.

01:12:10.000 And so, yes, we need people who have a bigger, stronger backbone.

01:12:15.000 What I observed, I actually was sitting with President Trump with a lot of the DHS officials in the Roosevelt Room when we're talking about strategy in terms of the shutdown in 2019.

01:12:29.000 And it's a and one of the things that I think is absolutely true is we have to make it we have a problem in D.C.

01:12:37.000 and the problem is every one of us who live in D.C.

01:12:40.000 and I live in the D.C.

01:12:41.000 When I when we had that shutdown this first the first Sunday after that shutdown my pastor in my church.

01:12:41.000 area.

01:12:49.000 Gets up and says, we're opening the food bank to all the poor federal employees who are now out of work and aren't going to have any money.

01:12:58.000 And so we're opening because the mean government is shut down.

01:13:01.000 Now, my pastor wasn't a liberal.

01:13:02.000 My pastor actually supported Trump.

01:13:04.000 He just was naive in that regard.

01:13:08.000 And so when you're sitting there and you are in the swamp,

01:13:14.000 The biggest thing you find is that the people, the bureaucrats, who are your neighbors, are sitting there and they think, oh, I'm not going to get paid and all this stuff.

01:13:24.000 When in reality, what they know is they are going to get paid and this is essentially a vacation for them.

01:13:30.000 And they know that, but they play it up.

01:13:33.000 And as a result, we lose inside this beltway.

01:13:37.000 Unless people outside the beltway are demanding that their legislators stand up

01:13:43.000 And fight for fiscal sanity and for policies that matter and for freedom in this country.

01:13:49.000 And that's where we have to be.

01:13:51.000 And by the way, you asked the question.

01:13:53.000 I told you to drain the swamp. 0.75

01:13:54.000 The other thing I'm working on is is trying to stop censorship, trying to stop and the censorship regime that exists.

01:14:02.000 And we've got another time to talk about this more, but you know, I know you've been very concerned about Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which was a which is a

01:14:12.000 Piece of it's part of the law that deals with, um, the regulation or social or rumble.

01:14:21.000 Um, and it's basically says you can have what people can post what they want onto their, onto the platform.

01:14:29.000 Um, and you can't be sued if you're the platform by outside interests that don't like what's posted there, but it also allows for there to be a second option there.

01:14:38.000 And that is that they can self edit.

01:14:41.000 on those platforms and they can ban people off their platforms.

01:14:45.000 And the push me pull you on this is, what can we do to make certain that Laura Loomer doesn't get banned off because of having the opinions that actually turn out to be true and right, but are offensive to those who want to hide the truth?

01:15:01.000 How do we make sure she's able to exist in that world? 1.00

01:15:06.000 And the reality is,

01:15:08.000 With the First Amendment, we may not be able to have access to all platforms.

01:15:12.000 2018, we were fighting this battle, trying to figure out what to do about it.

01:15:17.000 Getting rid of Section 230, or at least trying to figure out something around Section 230 made sense.

01:15:23.000 Six years later, we have Rumble.

01:15:26.000 We have alternative platforms.

01:15:28.000 This program's on Rumble.

01:15:30.000 If you had Section 230 going away, sunsetting, what would happen is,

01:15:35.000 Every one of the Soros lawyers out there would be suing Rumble, and they'd sue him out of existence.

01:15:42.000 And so we have to figure out how to not throw the baby out with the bathwater on this.

01:15:45.000 And right now, Congress is looking on a bipartisan basis and ending Section 230 effective the end of next year.

01:15:52.000 And that would be a disaster for conservative media.

01:15:56.000 And so we're trying to figure out a way around it.

01:15:58.000 And that's one of the things I've been talking to legislators about as well.

01:16:03.000 And what was the reception on Capitol Hill when you were talking to them about lawsuits against the attorneys general?

01:16:10.000 So if you can share with us, perhaps you have some stories or some feedback about your discussions today up on Capitol Hill, because it was a very exciting day on Capitol Hill.

01:16:20.000 I will tell you, today I spent time talking about the Drain the Swamp initiative.

01:16:26.000 And because I, I'll just, the committee sitting on the House,

01:16:32.000 Have to start acting on some of the things on the Drain the Swamp Initiative as it relates to regulations and trying to get rid of some of the really bad regulations.

01:16:41.000 They need to act now to take action so we can do stuff in January and February.

01:16:48.000 And so I was trying to get some of the leadership

01:16:51.000 Um, in the house to actually pull, kind of pick up the ball and run with it.

01:16:55.000 Uh, because if we don't do that now, if we wait, we're going to lose a whole year in terms of a lot of the really important.

01:17:02.000 Were you able to, uh, were you able to get their attention today while Donald Trump was up on Capitol Hill?

01:17:08.000 I was actually, I was able to talk to them and they, you know, they were aware of a lot of the drain the swamp stuff, some of the stuff they hadn't heard for in terms of different ways to approach.

01:17:17.000 And quite honestly, you know, a lot of people haven't ever been in an administration.

01:17:22.000 I was fortunate enough to be in the George W. Bush administration labor department.

01:17:25.000 I was part of the Trump transition team for labor in 2016.

01:17:30.000 And so I spent a lot of time thinking about how to solve the problems I saw when I was in the Bush administration.

01:17:38.000 And truthfully, there's some things that can be done, but they have to be willing to do them.

01:17:43.000 They have to prep for them now.

01:17:44.000 Do you want to be in the next administration?

01:17:48.000 Do I want to be in the next administration?

01:17:51.000 The truth is, I don't know.

01:17:54.000 What depends on is a very simple thing.

01:17:57.000 I did not go into the first Trump administration, even though I was one of the first conservative Trump supporters.

01:18:04.000 We actually helped launch his campaign over the trade issue.

01:18:08.000 But the fact is, if I make a determination that having my organization fight from the outside,

01:18:16.000 Better helps the country and helps Donald Trump be successful.

01:18:21.000 I will keep fighting on the outside.

01:18:23.000 If I make the determination that my expertise and knowledge is better used on the inside to try to get things done there, I will, I will do that.

01:18:32.000 Right now, we have to fight like hell to win this country back.

01:18:36.000 And I'm focused on doing everything I can in that regard.

01:18:40.000 And there's some big items on the table that we're fighting on and quite honestly,

01:18:45.000 Most people don't either have the knowledge, the time, or the courage to stand up and say no.

01:18:51.000 The First Amendment means Congress shall make no laws, and point that out to people and fight for the First Amendment in a way that used to be kind of just accepted as being the way to do it.

01:19:01.000 People don't stand up and say no, we're not going to allow these Hamas creeps to go around and destroy our country and not face any kind of pushback. 0.97

01:19:11.000 We have things happening in this country that need real attention now,

01:19:15.000 And I'm blessed to be in the position I am to be able to try to drive, in some small way, knowledge and encourage and help people be courageous in dealing with problems that, quite honestly, I don't think they're actually prepared to deal with.

01:19:33.000 Yeah, it seems like there's a lack of courage and I think that, you know, your answer is a very selfless answer and that's how most people should be thinking about whether or not their actions help President Trump on the outside or on the inside.

01:19:47.000 And a lot of people say, oh, why didn't you run for Congress again?

01:19:49.000 You should have run for Congress again.

01:19:51.000 And yeah, President Trump told me he would have endorsed me if I ran again.

01:19:53.000 And, you know, I said,

01:19:55.000 To myself, am I better helping President Trump as a potential member of Congress or helping on the outside doing what I do best, which is exposing people and holding people accountable?

01:20:05.000 So I appreciate you for your honest answer because so many people are so quick to just say, oh yeah, I want a job.

01:20:12.000 I want a job in the admin because they want to have a title.

01:20:15.000 But you are clearly concerned about putting President Trump first.

01:20:19.000 And if only all of our representatives in Congress and all of the

01:20:23.000 The bureaucrats in the Republican Party thought with that same mindset, we'd probably be in a better position today.

01:20:29.000 I agree.

01:20:31.000 And Laura, I want people out there to understand.

01:20:35.000 I'm not by myself on this.

01:20:36.000 There's a whole lot of people in small groups that people haven't heard of.

01:20:39.000 We're fighting every day to try to keep freedom in this country. 0.94

01:20:44.000 And, you know, they don't get a lot of attention sometimes, but the hard fight for freedom occurs every day on the edges and trying to get congressmen and congresswomen to not do stupid stuff under the guise of bipartisanship.

01:20:57.000 We have, we have a country that's worth defending and the DNA, very DNA of our country is under attack.

01:21:04.000 The soul of America is at stake, whether or not the idea that we are a country where the people are endowed by our creator with inalienable rights, not the government giving rights, our creator giving rights.

01:21:17.000 And we have that, that is at stake.

01:21:20.000 When a Supreme Court justice is under attack, he wants a moral, he wants a government, wouldn't it be nice if we had a godly government?

01:21:31.000 He's under attack.

01:21:33.000 That used to be kind of a 90-10 issue.

01:21:36.000 And the left, the same Democrats who booed God at their convention, are now trying to drive any kind of pretense of being godly, moral, whatever you want to call it, understanding that there's absolute truth.

01:21:50.000 They're trying to drive that out of the public.

01:21:53.000 The public cannot allow it to occur.

01:21:56.000 Our country can't survive if that occurs and thank goodness for people like you stand up and do the hard work who go and expose things like illegal immigration, not sitting at the border, but going all the way down into Panama.

01:22:09.000 And exposing what's going on.

01:22:12.000 Those kind of things matter because people need to see what's really going on and the NGOs and non-government organizations that get government money who are funding that stuff, they need to know it and thank goodness that you've made it your mission to expose that kind of corruption, whether it's in the courtroom of Judge Murchon or if it's in Panama.

01:22:34.000 The job you do and the work you do is just priceless and thank you very much for what you do.

01:22:38.000 Yeah, well, thanks.

01:22:39.000 It's my pleasure to do this type of work, and you're right.

01:22:42.000 We have a documentary coming out right now as well.

01:22:45.000 You know, all these reporters and members of Congress, they just want to go down to the Mexican border, but they're really missing the big story of where all of this illegal immigration is really coming from, and it's the Darien Gap, especially a lot of these Chinese invaders that we're now seeing.

01:23:00.000 So, I've talked about the documentary I have coming out.

01:23:02.000 It's called The Great Replacement, and, you know,

01:23:05.000 Some people will say, oh, it's such a controversial title.

01:23:08.000 Why did you call it that?

01:23:09.000 Because I went down to Panama and I realized that it's not a conspiracy theory.

01:23:12.000 It's a reality.

01:23:13.000 We are being replaced.

01:23:15.000 And when you do the math and when you look at what's happening on the ground in a place like the Darien Gap, you realize that all of these efforts to suppress terms like the Great Replacement is an effort to get people to stop paying attention to the invasion of their country.

01:23:30.000 People can stay tuned.

01:23:31.000 My documentary is coming out right before the election.

01:23:34.000 I decided, Rick, that I wanted to turn all this footage that I got down in Panama into a documentary and I want to release it at either the end of September or beginning of October because I truly believe that it's going to be the most hard-hitting documentary of the 2024 political season and that it will be a

01:23:54.000 Like the film version of An October Surprise.

01:23:57.000 I really do believe that my film will be seen by millions of people.

01:24:01.000 You're open to a timing suggestion.

01:24:03.000 Ballots are being cast in some places in third, fourth week of September.

01:24:08.000 So I think that everybody needs to see what you've come up with, what you're putting together before they vote.

01:24:17.000 And so take a very close look at when ballots start getting sent out.

01:24:21.000 And try to make certain that it's available to people before that.

01:24:24.000 So maybe I'll take your, yeah, I should take your advice on that.

01:24:27.000 Maybe, what do you think?

01:24:28.000 Maybe the end of August?

01:24:29.000 You think maybe the end of August?

01:24:31.000 No, if it's ready, I might do it right after Labor Day.

01:24:36.000 You know, you're going to have the convention, the Democrat convention in August.

01:24:40.000 August is a dead time when most people aren't paying any attention to politics.

01:24:43.000 They're trying to take a break.

01:24:45.000 But right after Labor Day would be the perfect time to release it.

01:24:48.000 Give it about three weeks to breathe before the first ballot goes out.

01:24:51.000 And get people talking about it and make it and really drive the immigration crisis in this country that Donald Trump fixed and Joe Biden created.

01:25:03.000 The 10 million people have come across the border illegally.

01:25:05.000 The fact that we are dealing with mostly military age men coming across this country and they're being dispersed into our cities in such a way that the real battle for America, if we do have a fight with the Chinese, the battle for America will be on the streets of Chicago. 0.95

01:25:21.000 We're good to go.

01:25:51.000 Absolutely, and also fentanyl.

01:25:53.000 Well, Rick, I can't thank you enough for coming on Luma Unleashed tonight to talk about the, you know, the different measures that you're taking with Americans for Limited Government to help take our country back from these radical communists and to help President Trump and to help restore freedom and sanity back to our country.

01:26:13.000 What's the best place for people to follow you and to support your work and also get updates on everything that you're doing?

01:26:20.000 Yeah, I would encourage people to go to that GetLiberty.org site.

01:26:24.000 Check out the three take actions that we have on there.

01:26:26.000 If any of them interest you, take action, you know, do something.

01:26:30.000 We have to do stuff here.

01:26:32.000 We don't, you know, a lot of people talk about stuff.

01:26:33.000 We try to actually get people, help people do stuff.

01:26:36.000 So go on.

01:26:37.000 And if you want to receive our materials, just respond to one of these take actions and opt in.

01:26:44.000 You see, there's a little button that says, I'd like to receive updates from this organization.

01:26:47.000 We've

01:26:48.000 Well, that's.

01:27:18.000 Wonderful.

01:27:20.000 Well, Rick, where do people follow you on social media?

01:27:23.000 Yeah, well, if you go on to Truth Social, it's LimitGov, just at LimitGov.

01:27:32.000 If you go on, we're on Rumble.

01:27:34.000 We used to do a lot more, a lot of videos.

01:27:38.000 So we're LimitGov, Limit G-O-V-T on Rumble, and we're still on X, once again, Limit G-O-V-T.

01:27:47.000 So follow us on any of those platforms and you'll be getting information from us.

01:27:53.000 And truthfully, the Truth Social platform, I strongly encourage people to use Rumble, use Truth Social, use X, because, you know, none of us have any guarantees that we're going to be on Facebook next week.

01:28:06.000 What we do know is that we have to support those platforms that support freedom and make certain we're putting traffic on those platforms because that's how those platforms get money and advertisers and are able to then grow and thrive.

01:28:23.000 So those of us who think this is important need to support the platforms that are supporting freedom and make that a priority.

01:28:31.000 Absolutely.

01:28:32.000 Well, Rick, thank you so much for coming on my show tonight.

01:28:35.000 It was a pleasure having you, and I hope that everybody goes to your website and signs those take action forms, because we definitely want to see some lawsuits against the New York State Supreme Court, and we want to see some subpoena action against Judge Mershawn and his daughter.

01:28:52.000 Thank you very much, Laura.

01:28:53.000 I appreciate it, and just keep up the great work.

01:28:55.000 Thank you.

01:28:56.000 You are a national treasure.

01:28:58.000 I appreciate that.

01:28:59.000 Thank you so much.

01:28:59.000 Thank you.

01:29:00.000 Have a great evening.

01:29:02.000 You too.

01:29:03.000 Thank you.

01:29:04.000 So Rick Manning everybody doing great work and I encourage all of you to go to his website.

01:29:10.000 We have let's get the website up on the screen one more time for for people to see it so that we can get these these action forms here.

01:29:23.000 So go ahead and sign these forms.

01:29:26.000 And before we move on to our next guest, Chase Geiser, who's a host over at InfoWars, I want to take a moment to...

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01:32:09.000 Obviously, you like me because you wouldn't be watching my show if you didn't like me.

01:32:13.000 Unless, of course, your media matters.

01:32:15.000 Hey, media matters.

01:32:16.000 I know you always clip my shows, so, you know, they have to have something to write about, right?

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01:32:25.000 But with that, my next guest is Chase Geiser, who of course is a host over at InfoWars, and he's the host of the Sunday Night Live show over at InfoWars.

01:32:36.000 So joining me now is Chase.

01:32:38.000 Chase, thanks so much for coming on Loomer Unleashed tonight.

01:32:41.000 Yes.

01:32:42.000 It's an honor and a pleasure to be with you.

01:32:43.000 Thank you for having me.

01:32:44.000 Of course.

01:32:45.000 You know, I watch Info Wars a lot, and I've seen your show, and I've also seen you.

01:32:52.000 You're very vocal.

01:32:53.000 You have a book coming out soon.

01:32:55.000 We're going to talk about that tonight.

01:32:57.000 But also, really at the top of everybody's mind right now is what's going to be happening tomorrow.

01:33:03.000 We saw Alex Jones kind of had a bit of a meltdown on his show about a week and a half ago.

01:33:10.000 And he was crying and he he said that he's going bankrupt and he made a plea with people to donate to InfoWars saying that

01:33:19.000 You know, he's going to have to liquidate his assets in order to pay off this over $1 billion, right?

01:33:25.000 $1.5 billion judgment that he owes to the relatives of 20 students and six staff members killed in the Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.

01:33:34.000 So it's my understanding that there's a hearing that's going to be taking place tomorrow.

01:33:39.000 So what can you tell us about this hearing?

01:33:43.000 Sure, so as far as I understand it, I'm by no means an expert in the nuances of bankruptcy law, but having worked at Infowars for about a year, you do learn a little bit unintentionally whether you want to or not about bankruptcy law.

01:33:54.000 I believe that there is a hearing at 10 o'clock in Houston, 10 Central.

01:33:58.000 There's another one, 11.

01:33:59.000 The first one is about Alex's personal bankruptcy.

01:34:02.000 And the second one is about Free Speech Systems, which is the parent company of InfoWars.

01:34:06.000 And Alex has motioned to convert his Chapter 11 bankruptcy into a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, which means it looks like if that goes through, he's going to lose his ownership stake in InfoWars.

01:34:17.000 And it seems like the judge may dismiss the bankruptcy case for free speech systems tomorrow because the plaintiffs have refused to agree to a settlement plan with InfoWars.

01:34:30.000 And so what's going to happen then is if this case is dismissed, InfoWars will lose its bankruptcy protections and the plaintiffs will be able to come in and liquidate everything, which is what we anticipate they're going to motion to do.

01:34:40.000 Next week.

01:34:41.000 So very likely that next week InfoWars is shut down.

01:34:44.000 It's possible that we could buy some time if they agree to some sort of settlement over the course of the next two months to keep the crew on and keep the show on the air while we sell the rest of the inventory for the products that we have an InfoWars store, but it's unlikely based on what I've experienced and seen from the opposition in this case that they'll do anything gracious or friendly or reciprocate any goodwill or anything like that.

01:35:04.000 So it seems like the final days for InfoWars.

01:35:07.000 Now, of course, that's not the final

01:35:09.000 End of the story for Alex or the crew.

01:35:11.000 I'm sure there'll be something else that comes down the pipeline, but we did have a new development in the case today where they have actually motioned the court for ownership of Alex's personal Twitter account as well.

01:35:21.000 So they now not only want at InfoWars, but they want real Alex Jones on Twitter so they can shut down his personal Twitter account.

01:35:28.000 And that'll be something that will be brought up in the cases in the hearings tomorrow as well.

01:35:32.000 Yeah, we have an article.

01:35:33.000 Let's get that full screen here, too. 0.66

01:35:35.000 It's an article that just came out today on Reuters.

01:35:38.000 Sandy Hook families want to seize Alex Jones' social media accounts.

01:35:42.000 Families of the Sandy Hook Massacre victims want to seize Alex Jones' social media accounts in his bankruptcy, saying that

01:35:50.000 At the conspiracy conspiracy theorists, their words not mine, frequent postive fans are a key part of the Infowars business being liquidated to pay Jones's debt.

01:36:00.000 Jones, who filed bankruptcy protection 17 months ago, has given up on trying to reach a settlement that would reduce the $1.5 billion that he owes to the relatives of the 20 students and six staff members killed in the 2012 mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

01:36:16.000 So they

01:36:19.000 The article does say that they want to actually take control of Alex Jones's X account to prevent him from using it to promote new business ventures.

01:36:28.000 So they just, you know, you did say that other things will come down the pipeline for Alex, but if they are successful then in actually confiscating his social media accounts, he's not going to have a means to promote further ventures, correct?

01:36:43.000 It'll certainly make things more difficult, but there's a couple of different avenues that this could play out.

01:36:47.000 First of all, I don't think the judge is going to go for it.

01:36:49.000 Believe it or not, Judge Lopez has been fairly reasonable throughout this process.

01:36:53.000 It's been the plaintiff's attorneys that have been super difficult.

01:36:56.000 The fact that Jones was found guilty by default of defamation to begin with has been part of what's difficult.

01:37:02.000 The jury determining that he owed $1.5 billion, that was unreasonable.

01:37:06.000 But the judge specifically in this case seems to be very reasonable.

01:37:09.000 I've listened to several of the last hearings.

01:37:12.000 And I don't think he's on our side necessarily, but he seemed genuinely neutral to the extent that that's possible.

01:37:18.000 So, I doubt that they're going to be able to get this, that they're going to be able to pull this off in the motion tomorrow.

01:37:22.000 I think that they're just attacking from all fronts whenever possible.

01:37:26.000 But if they do successfully shut it down, there's a couple avenues.

01:37:28.000 The first thing to consider is, I know Musk has made

01:37:31.000 It meant to protect the platform when users are attacked directly.

01:37:35.000 So I think that this would probably fall into that category that might get Musk involved.

01:37:38.000 I mean, it's a little bit of a Hail Mary and a stretch, but it's certainly possible that he would get involved.

01:37:43.000 He hasn't said anything like that.

01:37:45.000 I'm hopeful.

01:37:46.000 And the second thing is, even if they do take Alex's personal account, Alex will be able to start up another account.

01:37:51.000 And we've seen countless examples of this where, you know, maybe he won't have 2.3 million followers right off of the bat, but it's just a matter of time before he gets his audience back if he starts another account.

01:38:03.000 Yeah, it is really crazy.

01:38:05.000 I think this is, it made history, right?

01:38:07.000 Wasn't this one of the largest judgments for a private citizen in United States history?

01:38:12.000 Of course.

01:38:13.000 I think Alex Jones has defamed worse than anyone has ever defamed before in terms of monetary value.

01:38:18.000 And you have to keep in mind that the state of Adam Lanza, who was the actual shooter, was only sued for $1.5 million.

01:38:24.000 So somehow, if you look at the math, Alex is a thousand times more culpable for what happened to the person who actually killed those kids.

01:38:31.000 Yeah, well, it seems to me like this is more about getting money than anything else, because you're right.

01:38:37.000 I mean, Alex wasn't the one that pulled the trigger.

01:38:38.000 He certainly had opinions about the Sandy Hook shooting, and, you know, some people say that the coverage was sensational, and even if it was, right?

01:38:49.000 He was not the person that actually pulled the trigger and killed all of those innocent children.

01:38:49.000 You're right.

01:38:54.000 And so, it is interesting to compare the discrepancy in the judgments and, you know, the monetary amount that Adam Lanza was, well, the estate of Adam Lanza was sued for compared to, as you just pointed out, Alex Jones.

01:39:06.000 We're good to go.

01:39:30.000 inspirational 200 page rant Patriots Fired Up.

01:39:34.000 I define populism as the realization that it's not about Republicans versus Democrats or right versus left it's about the people versus the political class and so this book is meant to inspire patriotic populists on that front and also encourage everybody to vote for Trump because I do believe that Trump is the populist candidate and perhaps the only hope for our country.

01:39:55.000 Well, I'm very happy to see that you are supporting Trump and that you believe that Trump is the best answer for our country because, you know, I think that the message that you're promoting is good.

01:40:06.000 But I will say, I do have to say this because I don't want to be called a hypocrite by my own audience.

01:40:13.000 Um, you know, I have done an investigation into RFK Jr., and I have done an investigation into the people who have been propping him up.

01:40:23.000 And one of the people that promotes him and props him up is a guy by the name of Tony Leones, who happens to be the owner of Sky Horse Publishing.

01:40:33.000 And so I've already received messages about this tonight, and while I like you as a person, and, you know, I've watched Info Wars myself,

01:40:43.000 I do have to say your book is published by Sky Horse because I have been very critical of Tony and the fact that, you know, he is probably one of the biggest contributors to RFK's Super PAC American Values.

01:40:57.000 And so I'm happy to see that you yourself are a Trump supporter because, you know, I think that it's kind of deceptive the way that Tony's publishing scheme works.

01:41:09.000 I'm sure you can't talk about this.

01:41:11.000 You probably signed

01:41:12.000 Yeah, so a couple things there.

01:41:14.000 I do have a non-disparagement agreement in my contract, so I'm not going to say anything negative about Tony.

01:41:33.000 And I'm not really going to defend him either.

01:41:35.000 I'm vehemently opposed to RFK.

01:41:37.000 I think RFK is a CIA plant.

01:41:39.000 It sickens me that RFK Jr.

01:41:41.000 has a former CIA op running his campaign as a campaign manager, the same woman who married into his family after just like a year of being involved in a relationship.

01:41:50.000 I think it's sick that you would have members of your family assassinated by the CIA and then you would hire the CIA to run your campaign.

01:41:56.000 I think his entire objective of his campaign, RFK's, is to

01:42:00.000 Yeah.

01:42:01.000 Yeah.

01:42:18.000 Just as much as it bothers me that another American would entertain the idea of supporting this candidate.

01:42:24.000 But I am pleased that he has published this book because this book is explicitly a pro-Trump book.

01:42:30.000 The entire epilogue of the book is dedicated to why you should vote for Trump and why he's a populist president.

01:42:37.000 And the other reason we chose the publisher is because Skyhorse published Alex Jones' books, The Great Awakening and The Great Reset, and before we knew that we were going to go bankrupt, the thinking was, if I publish this through Skyhorse, we have a special deal with Skyhorse and InfoWars, where InfoWars would have been able to buy thousands of copies of the book at an extreme discount, then Alex and I would have been able to sign them and sell them for a markup, and it would have been great for InfoWars, monetarily speaking.

01:43:01.000 Of course, we're not going to be able to buy this book here at InfoWars because we're about ready to

01:43:05.000 That didn't work out, but I do understand your reservations about Tony Lyons and Sky Horse, and I'm not going to say anything negative about him, but I'm also not going to contest any of the things.

01:43:13.000 No, and I wanted to have you come on because I do think that, you know, I've seen your show and I've seen that you're pro-Trump, but I just had to out of, you know, the sake of transparency.

01:43:23.000 No, I understand.

01:43:24.000 Because I was railing on Tony Lyons not too long ago, and I take issue with his publishing strategy and the way that he pries on conservative clients that are victims of censorship, and the fact that he has then basically turned his relationships with MAGA personalities or Trump supporters into a way to then somehow fund RFK.

01:43:47.000 And so I just had to, for the sake of my own journalistic integrity,

01:43:53.000 Even though, you know, I think that the message of your book is something that all people should familiarize themselves with, the rise of American populism, because it truly is really relevant, not just here in our own political landscape here in America, Chase, as you would probably agree, but also, too, I want to get on the recent rise of populism in Europe.

01:44:11.000 We just saw the European Union elections take place, and it just seems like a, you know, crushing defeat for

01:44:17.000 We're good to go.

01:44:35.000 We're good to go.

01:45:05.000 Do you think that Donald Trump has anything to do with kind of this mass awakening and the rise of populist and mass victories across the world right now?

01:45:20.000 Yeah, I think Donald Trump has something to do with it, but I think it's actually more the other way around.

01:45:24.000 I think the rise in populist sentiments is the reason that Donald Trump has been so successful because people are resonating with that message more.

01:45:32.000 I do think he convinced a lot of people of populism, but it was the underlying bedrock of populist sentiment that propped

01:45:38.000 him up and why we should vote for him again for a third time.

01:45:42.000 So what I would say is that the number one catalyst, and this is not something that we've just seen in the last eight years, but it's something that we've seen in the last 100 years.

01:45:51.000 The number one catalyst for populist ideals or nationalist ideals is a political establishment that fails its people for an extended period of time.

01:46:01.000 And the more a people suffer because of the failures and corruption of their political class,

01:46:05.000 The more populist they become.

01:46:07.000 Now, we can go back to Germany in the 1920s and the Weimar Republic.

01:46:11.000 We had hyperinflation and that catalyzed a major nationalist movement.

01:46:15.000 Now, I'm no Nazi.

01:46:16.000 I don't sympathize with Nazis.

01:46:17.000 I hate the fact that we gave $63 billion to the Nazis in Ukraine on Hitler's birthday, April 20th this year. 0.96

01:46:22.000 I think it's absolutely fucking disgusting and that's why I don't pay income tax unless I absolutely have to when it's withdrawn from my money because 0.91

01:46:28.000 Following orders is not a good enough excuse for Nuremberg 1, it's not going to be a good enough excuse for Nuremberg 2, right? 0.96

01:46:34.000 So I'm opposed to Nazism, but there is a rational explanation for why the Nazis resonate, like why it happened. 0.81

01:46:40.000 It wasn't just like an ass-kicking came falling out of the sky and everyone's like, oh this Hitler guy! 0.92

01:46:44.000 He resonated with the people because they've been so screwed over after the Treaty of Versailles. 0.96

01:46:48.000 Unfortunately, he blamed erroneously an entire ethnicity, but the German people were suffering so much that it was all about this populism, this nationalism,

01:46:57.000 And they took it the fascist route.

01:46:58.000 It could have gone the Marxist route.

01:47:00.000 I'm hoping that here in the United States in the 2020s when we experience similar hyperinflation and the potential collapse of the dollar.

01:47:06.000 Because of the way that fractional reserve banking is set up, I hope that we don't have to just choose between fascism and Marxism at the end of this road as a people.

01:47:14.000 I hope that there's a third option, a populist option, which is why I support Trump so much, because things are gonna get worse before they get better in this country.

01:47:22.000 And the worse things get, the more inclined a people is, on an entire scale of the civilization, to do very unjust things, radical things in response.

01:47:32.000 And I hope that we just have this rational populist response to this political crisis that we're in, and we support Trump and megapoliticians and populist ideas instead of going the fascist or Marxist route, which is going to be before us.

01:47:45.000 And so your book then, it sounds like you provide this historical context, right, for people who want to learn about different populist movements throughout history.

01:47:54.000 You don't just talk about populism as a whole, but is it safe to say that your book really is like a historical blueprint for how we got to this point, or is it more focused on the past or the future, or the present political situation, or kind of a mixture of all three?

01:48:12.000 There is some historical context in the book, but the book is like a 200 page populist rant.

01:48:19.000 So you should walk away inspired to be a populist, to vote populist, to support Trump, to actually fight back instead of biting your lip at social events when people say they're going to vote for Biden or they think Trump's a criminal.

01:48:32.000 If you read this book, you won't do that.

01:48:34.000 You will snap back. 1.00

01:48:35.000 You will loomer unleash on these fucking people. 1.00

01:48:39.000 It's meant to inspire people to actually be a little bit more combative. 1.00

01:48:45.000 We love that.

01:48:48.000 We love combativeness.

01:48:50.000 So, you know, there's a lot of qualities that President Trump has and a lot of different characteristics, I guess, that are appealing to populists.

01:49:00.000 As a populist yourself and as the author of this book, what do you think is President Trump's most appealing quality to populists?

01:49:08.000 Or why do you, what is the populist case for voting for President Trump?

01:49:13.000 That is such an easy question to answer.

01:49:15.000 I'm glad you asked it.

01:49:17.000 It's so easy to vote for Trump.

01:49:18.000 The reason I think he's a populist here and it's a no-brainer is because all of the world's super villains hate him.

01:49:25.000 And the reason I'm voting for him is because all the right 0.76

01:49:28.000 White people hate him.

01:49:29.000 Oh, if Klaus Schwab hates him, if Trudeau hates him, if Nancy Pelosi hates him, if the Clintons hate him, if the Fauci's hate him. 0.98

01:49:34.000 Everybody that I hate from the bottom of my soul because of their betrayal of this country, their incessant lies, their literal treason, hates Donald Trump more than they hate anybody else, so it's a no-brainer to vote for him.

01:49:46.000 I mean, and there's a lot of positive reasons to vote for him, so I'm not just trying to make the case for him on a negative, but that is by far the reason that it's a no-brainer.

01:49:52.000 Anytime he may say something that kind of rows me wrong or I might disagree with or whatever,

01:49:56.000 It's like, oh, but yeah, but everybody that hates the world and hates humanity hates them.

01:50:00.000 So it's very easy for me to support him just on that notion.

01:50:02.000 But things like even today saying that he wants to eradicate an income tax and replace it with tariffs.

01:50:06.000 I mean, that's just great.

01:50:08.000 I can't think of a day that goes by where he doesn't say something that resonates with me as a populist.

01:50:13.000 And so his policies and his approach and everything like that, the fact that he's a political outsider and that he's been so under attack and he's one of the few presidents that's ever left the office with a low

01:50:23.000 Despite the fact that the billionaire class made so much money off the printing of money during the pandemic.

01:50:28.000 I mean, there are so many reasons to vote for him, but the number one reason for me supporting him is because all the most evil people in the world that I've studied and looked at hate him so much.

01:50:36.000 It's a very good sign.

01:50:38.000 Were you always a Trump supporter since 2016 or did you have a reawakening?

01:50:43.000 Did you have a reawakening?

01:50:44.000 Okay, that's good.

01:50:44.000 Oh, always.

01:50:46.000 Always.

01:50:46.000 That's good.

01:50:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:46.000 I voted for Trump in 2016 and in the primary in 2016.

01:50:50.000 I think we're finding now a lot of people are kind of waking up as post COVID, you know, when a lot of people were locked down and they had time to, you know, sit at home and watch videos, especially watching InfoWars, you know, a lot of people I know got red pilled watching InfoWars during the pandemic.

01:51:06.000 But, you know, we have a lot of people now that I think

01:51:09.000 We're total Trump haters.

01:51:11.000 I don't know if you would agree with this, but we've even seen it with some of the members of Congress and members of the Senate who were originally anti-Trump.

01:51:18.000 You know, they're coming out and they're fervently supporting President Trump.

01:51:23.000 Two examples I can think of are Senator J.D.

01:51:26.000 Vance and Nancy Mace.

01:51:28.000 You know, these are two individuals who entered their political careers being anti-Trump.

01:51:33.000 At one point even, you know, at least in Nancy's case, supporting the impeachment of President Trump.

01:51:40.000 And now you see these people really have had a total 180, and they're some of President Trump's biggest champions in Congress and the Senate.

01:51:49.000 What do you think the reasoning is for that?

01:51:52.000 I question any politician has a change of heart on any policy or any other candidate.

01:52:00.000 I question the authenticity of that.

01:52:03.000 And to me, it's a red flag.

01:52:05.000 I'm not, I'm not trying to say this about Nancy or JD specifically.

01:52:08.000 Maybe I'm wrong about this, but to me, this is an example of politicians determining or understanding a shift in the wind and then just riding the wave.

01:52:20.000 So I'm very skeptical as to members of the political class, because you have to keep in mind the political class doesn't really have

01:52:27.000 The incentive to support a genuine outsider like Trump, just at scale.

01:52:31.000 And we can take one example, being the fact that it's legal for our political class, our politicians, whether in the House or in the Senate, to engage in insider trading.

01:52:40.000 I mean, they're legally protected for insider trading.

01:52:43.000 So they have an incentive as leaders to vote for the raising of the debt ceiling, so they can spend more tax dollars on companies that they're personally invested in, and so they get the kickback when their portfolio expands in value.

01:52:55.000 When you have somebody like a Trump come in that potentially could disrupt that on a scale, because this is not somebody who's personally invested in that way or engaged in insider trading in that way.

01:53:03.000 I mean, if he was, he would have made a lot of money as President of the United States, and he didn't because he's not a sellout.

01:53:07.000 I'm often very skeptical when these people do these things.

01:53:10.000 I'm often thinking that maybe they're trying to cater to Trump's vulnerability to flattery.

01:53:16.000 And they want cabinet positions so they can compromise his term if he wins.

01:53:21.000 I'm not just saying that.

01:53:22.000 I'm not saying this, you know, with certainty about these specific people, so I'm not trying to disparage anyone, but I would be very wary of anyone who claims to have a changed heart.

01:53:29.000 I mean, keep in mind how many times the Clintons had changes of heart over, like, gay marriage, for example.

01:53:34.000 There's famous clips of Hillary Clinton saying that gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married when she was a senator, and then she reverses on that, and they just go with the wind because they don't have any principles.

01:53:42.000 I'd be very skeptical because

01:53:43.000 Trump has always been the same, so if the positions of politicians change on Trump, it seems to me that it's likely disingenuous.

01:53:52.000 What do you think?

01:53:55.000 I think for the most part that statement is true, but I do think that, you know, I've had JD Vance on the show, and I've had Nancy Mace on the show, and I think that they, like, actually got to know him on a personal level, and

01:54:08.000 I think in their case being in the swamp and seeing firsthand the weaponization of government and also, you know, just the vitriol coming from the Democrats and how everything that comes out of the Democrat Party is designed to get Trump.

01:54:20.000 I think that you have some of these representatives who go to Washington DC thinking,

01:54:26.000 We're good.

01:54:50.000 I like to think that Nancy Mace is genuine in her support for President Trump. 0.81

01:54:54.000 I mean, this is a woman who actually had bigger balls than most men in Congress and voted to remove Kevin McCarthy. 0.99

01:55:01.000 And you have people that have claimed to support President Trump, you know, from the beginning that voted in support of Kevin McCarthy during the motion to vacate.

01:55:08.000 So I would say that Nancy's sincere.

01:55:12.000 And look, J.D.

01:55:12.000 Vance is one of the only members of the Senate who actually was outside of the Supreme Court.

01:55:17.000 It was Marsha Blackburn, Tommy Tuberville, and J.D.

01:55:20.000 Vance who showed up to the Supreme Court the day that the Supreme Court was hearing arguments about whether or not to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado.

01:55:28.000 So where were all these other senators who, you know, supposedly claimed to support Trump?

01:55:33.000 So I actually take those things into account.

01:55:37.000 You know, we'll see.

01:55:38.000 I like to believe Nancy Mace and J.D.

01:55:41.000 Vance are now, you know, true believers in Donald Trump.

01:55:46.000 Repent for the kingdom of Trump is here!

01:55:49.000 I was about to say repentant sinners, you know?

01:55:51.000 I was about to use that term.

01:55:52.000 I do believe that Matters is going to cut this and say, oh, Laura Loomer and InfoWars hosts say that members of Congress who

01:56:03.000 Hey, that's a badge of honor.

01:56:04.000 I think on my bio, in my book sleeve, it says, as mentioned, it's a cult, right?

01:56:07.000 It's a cult.

01:56:08.000 It's a cult.

01:56:09.000 That's what they'll say, right?

01:56:11.000 No, but truly, I believe that, you know, it's akin to now being a political repentant sinner.

01:56:16.000 And so I'm grateful for those people who, you know, were anti-Trump who are now speaking up because

01:56:22.000 Even the people that claim to be pro-Trump, you know, from the beginning, they're not using their voices as loud as they should be.

01:56:29.000 So that leads me to my next question.

01:56:31.000 You know, you're obviously very involved in politics.

01:56:34.000 You're a host on InfoWars.

01:56:36.000 You guys have all types of hosts all the time.

01:56:38.000 You guys have one of the most popular political podcasts in the world.

01:56:42.000 What do you think about the veepstakes?

01:56:44.000 Who out of the people that President Trump has proposed on his, you know, possible VP list,

01:56:52.000 We're good to go.

01:57:14.000 I know you had Senator Tim Scott, you had Marco Rubio, Elisa Fonik, J.D. 0.99

01:57:19.000 Vance, Byron Donalds, Doug Burgum.

01:57:23.000 Let's see, Doug Burgum.

01:57:24.000 I'm trying to think of who else.

01:57:25.000 Who else was on the list?

01:57:27.000 Let's pull up the list.

01:57:28.000 Do we have the full list?

01:57:29.000 I mean, they have Doug Burgum, Marco Rubio.

01:57:40.000 Let's see.

01:57:41.000 Not Rubio.

01:57:43.000 You have a full list.

01:57:44.000 Let's get the full list pulled up.

01:57:47.000 Not exactly a poker face.

01:57:49.000 You remember that famous line?

01:57:55.000 Yeah.

01:57:56.000 Out of the list that was put forth by President Trump, and we have that now, let's get it full screen.

01:58:02.000 J.D.

01:58:02.000 Vance.

01:58:04.000 He's got nice eyelashes.

01:58:05.000 I think it's going to be between J.D.

01:58:07.000 Vance or Doug Burgum.

01:58:08.000 That's my prediction.

01:58:10.000 I think that of the people on the list, and let's scroll down, here we go, the contenders, J.D.

01:58:14.000 Vance, Senator J.D.

01:58:15.000 Vance from Ohio, North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum, Senator Marco Rubio from Florida, Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina, Ben Carson, that was the name, okay, Ben Carson, former HUD Secretary, Representative Elise Stefanik from New York, Representative Byron Donalds from Florida, and Senator Tom Cotton from Arkansas.

01:58:36.000 So, uh, I can automatically say... It's gotta be J.D.

01:58:40.000 Vance, because Ohio's a swing state.

01:58:42.000 Yeah, J.D.

01:58:43.000 Vance or Doug Burgum, although I think maybe Doug Burgum would be better suited, potentially, as Energy Secretary, given his background.

01:58:50.000 So, maybe Doug Burgum for Energy Secretary, and maybe J.D.

01:58:53.000 Vance for, I don't know, VP.

01:58:55.000 I just think that, I know for a fact that the options are between those people on the list.

01:59:01.000 Right, so those are the people.

01:59:02.000 I saw Byron Donalds today was on Fox News, and they asked him whether or not he would want to be VP, and he said, yeah, of course I would like to be, and he wouldn't confirm whether or not he's filled out paperwork.

01:59:12.000 I don't think that Mark Rubio should be VP.

01:59:16.000 I don't think that Senator Tim Scott should be VP.

01:59:18.000 I really like Dr. Ben Carson, but part of me thinks that he may be, I don't know, maybe a little too demure.

01:59:25.000 I really appreciate that he's been loyal.

01:59:27.000 He's probably been the most loyal to Trump out of anybody.

01:59:31.000 I really love Dr. Carson.

01:59:33.000 I certainly think that he should have a role in the administration.

01:59:37.000 But in terms of what I think the top two are going to come down to, just based off of what I'm hearing and what I'm seeing, and the way the base is reacting, I really do believe it's going to be a toss-up between Burgum, Governor Doug Burgum, and Senator J.D.

01:59:53.000 Vance.

01:59:55.000 Well, I think that Ben Carson should have a role in this administration as a brain surgeon.

01:59:59.000 I mean, obviously, we have somebody that needs an operation.

02:00:03.000 Absolutely.

02:00:04.000 Maybe we should recruit him.

02:00:07.000 We should recruit him.

02:00:08.000 Maybe we should get one of those White House... What are those?

02:00:11.000 Whitehouse.gov petitions?

02:00:13.000 Send Dr. Ben Carson into the Biden administration to perform immediate brain surgery.

02:00:21.000 Yeah, that would be amazing.

02:00:22.000 That would be amazing.

02:00:23.000 My question is, for you, is do you actually think it's going to be Joe Biden as the candidate?

02:00:26.000 Because I'm having increased doubts as time goes on.

02:00:28.000 Do you think it's going to be Mike?

02:00:30.000 I don't.

02:00:30.000 Because she's got a new book out I saw at the airport the other day.

02:00:34.000 Who's it going to be?

02:00:35.000 I don't know who it's going to be, but I don't think it's going to be Joe Biden.

02:00:38.000 I mean, the guy is clearly sundowning and he can't function. 1.00

02:00:43.000 His video's today.

02:00:44.000 Do we have the video from the G7 Summit?

02:00:46.000 I think we have that video of him.

02:00:48.000 Let's play that video.

02:00:52.000 He had all these... I don't know what it was.

02:00:53.000 They were watching some guy land, I guess, with a G7 summit flag, and then Joe Biden starts... And you know what I love? 0.97

02:01:00.000 What's so funny about these appearances whenever Joe Biden goes abroad, and it's so funny, all of these officials are like, oh shit, the president of the United States is having a moment. 0.96

02:01:11.000 Let's just go with him and pretend like this is normal. 0.95

02:01:14.000 Like he's in D-Day and he's turning around

02:01:16.000 When they're doing the anthem and, you know, Emmanuel Macron and his wife, like, look around like, you know, oh, what's going on here?

02:01:24.000 And then they turn their bodies so that Joe Biden isn't the only one turning around.

02:01:28.000 And you can obviously tell they're running cover.

02:01:30.000 We have this clip today from Italy where Joe Biden, of course, started walking away from all these other world leaders.

02:01:37.000 And in an effort to prevent him from being embarrassed on the world stage, they decided to follow him.

02:01:43.000 So take a look.

02:02:05.000 Unbelievable.

02:02:10.000 Had you not seen this clip?

02:02:11.000 It's viral all over the place.

02:02:12.000 No, I saw it.

02:02:13.000 We covered it on The War Room this afternoon.

02:02:15.000 It's just, it's just shocking every time you see it.

02:02:17.000 I mean, the guy was wandering off like a madman.

02:02:19.000 And then Georgia Maloney, Georgia Maloney's like, come on! 1.00

02:02:22.000 I could just, I could just see her now in her little Italian.

02:02:24.000 I can't really do an Italian accent.

02:02:26.000 Maybe you

02:02:28.000 I don't know.

02:02:29.000 Can you do an Italian accent?

02:02:31.000 Mamma mia, Joe! 0.90

02:02:33.000 This way!

02:02:35.000 Mamma mia, Joe! 0.90

02:02:37.000 Come over here! 0.95

02:02:40.000 German.

02:02:41.000 I haven't hung out with the Italians since 1943.

02:02:42.000 Mamma mia! 0.87

02:02:43.000 Mamma mia! 0.87

02:02:45.000 Mamma mia, Joe! 0.90

02:02:53.000 We got the debita!

02:02:55.000 Yeah, no, it's crazy.

02:02:56.000 And every time you see Joe Biden on video with anyone, whether it's little children or adults, they always seem like they're hiding a big secret or that they feel they're around somebody fragile.

02:03:08.000 And look at the way they're all looking, right?

02:03:10.000 And he's doing the shuffle and Maloney had to.

02:03:12.000 I mean, I just want to know what was going through her head at the moment.

02:03:15.000 And, you know, she's sitting there and having to turn around and act like this is normal. 0.99

02:03:19.000 Everybody in that video hates Donald Trump.

02:03:22.000 And then he had to put his sunglasses on.

02:03:25.000 He had to put his sunglasses on to cover his eyes.

02:03:28.000 I don't know.

02:03:28.000 That's like his cue.

02:03:29.000 It's almost like they tell him, OK, now, any single time somebody, you know, shuffles you away, Joe, you got to put your glasses on.

02:03:37.000 And we have, you know, we have the videos that he put out, too.

02:03:42.000 He put out this video answering questions because they think it's fun to poke fun at the fact that Donald Trump is a convicted felon and, oh, Donald Trump doesn't want to answer questions, even though Trump answers all the questions.

02:03:54.000 And the videos that the White House puts out on Twitter of Joe Biden, they're just crazy.

02:03:59.000 I mean, he literally looks dead.

02:04:01.000 And I don't know if they think that him having a soft-spoken voice makes him look appealing,

02:04:07.000 Look at him.

02:04:07.000 He almost looks like he belongs in hospice.

02:04:09.000 Here's another clip from from today as well during his press conference where he was mumbling about not pardoning his son, but we talked about that.

02:04:21.000 Oh, well, okay. 0.97

02:04:22.000 My producer says there's so many clips because I said, I said, Hey, uh, Cannon, find every single fucked up clip of Joe Biden slurring his words today. 0.75

02:04:30.000 And he said, Laura, I just don't have enough time because I'd be here all night. 0.58

02:04:34.000 So, uh, we did the best.

02:04:36.000 We did our best to, uh, we did our best to get all the clips.

02:04:39.000 So here's a clip of him struggling to speak on stage with Zelensky today.

02:04:42.000 Go ahead and play the clip.

02:04:44.000 It includes major commitments from Ukraine.

02:04:54.000 He looks like he's asleep.

02:04:56.000 I mean, look at- can we just get like a zoom in on his face right there?

02:04:59.000 Just pause it.

02:05:00.000 Just look at that face. 0.66

02:05:01.000 I mean, he looks sick. 0.86

02:05:05.000 He looks really sick.

02:05:06.000 He looks like- Is he staring into a teleprompter?

02:05:09.000 Is that what those little screens are?

02:05:10.000 I don't know.

02:05:10.000 I don't know if he's staring at it, but he can't speak.

02:05:13.000 He ended the press conference early today.

02:05:16.000 And then he stuck out his hand for like 5 minutes to shake Zelensky's hand before Zelensky was, you know, even across the stage to come shake his hand.

02:05:24.000 I think that this guy is going to die before the election.

02:05:27.000 Or, I don't know. 0.87

02:05:28.000 Who do you think is going to die first?

02:05:30.000 Do you think Zelensky is going to get whacked by his own military or do you think Joe Biden is going to die first? 0.64

02:05:35.000 I think Biden's going to die first or maybe they'll pull a Scalia and someone will put a pillow over his face.

02:05:43.000 I mean, I'm not advocating for that, obviously. 0.65

02:05:45.000 I'm certainly not advocating for that.

02:05:48.000 I'm not advocating for that, but I do think that Joe Biden has

02:05:55.000 ...has become such a liability.

02:05:56.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

02:05:57.000 I mean, look, we've had our own government has assassinated presidents before.

02:06:02.000 So are we gonna wake up and find out that Joe Biden died in his sleep from some kind of medical illness?

02:06:08.000 Is he gonna slip and fall?

02:06:09.000 Who's more likely to get whacked, Joe Biden or Donald Trump? 0.91

02:06:11.000 Is he, uh, is he gonna slip and fall and hit his head while he's out and then, you know, they're gonna say, oh, we had a brain, you know, a brain bleed and he's gonna die? 0.82

02:06:21.000 Or are they gonna take him out?

02:06:22.000 I don't know.

02:06:23.000 Are they gonna whack him before the election because he's too much of a liability now?

02:06:28.000 Again, I'm not advocating for this, but I'm just talking about the realities of our own government.

02:06:32.000 Our own government has assassinated presidents before.

02:06:36.000 And I wouldn't be surprised.

02:06:37.000 I mean, look, we have Joe Biden.

02:06:38.000 He didn't even qualify to be on the ballot in the state of Ohio.

02:06:41.000 That's 17 electoral votes.

02:06:43.000 You know, I was talking about RFK.

02:06:45.000 The whole point behind his PAC and Tony Lyons' PAC, American Values, is to create a contingent election.

02:06:51.000 They want to take enough electoral votes away so that neither Trump or Biden get elected.

02:06:56.000 And RFK Jr.

02:06:58.000 knows that not even he would be president.

02:07:00.000 They would have Congress select our next president, which is what his whole entire strategy is, which is why I'm not a fan of Tony Lyons because I personally find his method of prying on Trump supporters who have been censored to try to give them book deals and then, you know, using his money to fund RFK is deceptive.

02:07:18.000 I think that it's a really trashy business model.

02:07:20.000 Again, those are my words, not yours.

02:07:22.000 I'm just being transparent about how I feel.

02:07:25.000 I appreciate that you're a Trump supporter, but that's why I think this election is so dangerous because RFK is not running a campaign to win.

02:07:32.000 He knows that he can't win.

02:07:34.000 His own PAC that is run by Tony Lyons has admitted that they don't want to win, that they want to cause a contingent election.

02:07:41.000 And so if the Democrats are going along with this and they know that Joe Biden

02:07:45.000 Isn't going to be the nominee.

02:07:47.000 What do they care if Congress ends up choosing somebody who's more radical than Trump and Biden?

02:07:52.000 Not saying that Trump's a radical, but we have to understand that the Uniparty doesn't want Trump and they don't want Biden.

02:07:58.000 They certainly don't want RFK, but RFK is just a means to an end for them to then install somebody.

02:08:04.000 Because the way that a contingent election works is you don't have to be a candidate on the ballot.

02:08:10.000 They don't have to pick Trump.

02:08:11.000 They don't have to pick Biden.

02:08:13.000 They don't have to pick Chase Oliver.

02:08:14.000 They don't have to pick RFK.

02:08:16.000 They don't have to pick Jill Stein, you know, or any of these other candidates. 0.92

02:08:19.000 They can pick whoever they want.

02:08:21.000 We could literally get President Alex Soros.

02:08:23.000 We could get President Ilhan Omar, President AOC, if we have a contingent election.

02:08:28.000 And so that's why I think that the Democrats are

02:08:32.000 Not putting up a new candidate right now because I think that we are running the risk of having a contingent election or maybe, you know, right before August when the convention takes place, Joe Biden is going to die or have some kind of medical emergency or they'll whack him.

02:08:46.000 Because the DNC rules, Chase, they actually outline a process.

02:08:50.000 I don't know if you're aware of this, but the DNC actually has rules that say that it doesn't matter what the outcome of a primary is, if the DNC leadership has enough votes,

02:09:01.000 Just the leadership, not even voting members, okay?

02:09:05.000 Just leadership of the DNC.

02:09:07.000 They can actually install their own candidate and announce their candidate of their choosing at the convention.

02:09:13.000 So they could convince everybody that Joe Biden's going to be the nominee going into their convention and then

02:09:19.000 At the end of August.

02:09:20.000 Vention is supposed to take place.

02:09:22.000 They can actually install somebody completely new.

02:09:25.000 So let's do the math on that.

02:09:26.000 June, July, August.

02:09:27.000 Ballots go out in September in some states.

02:09:29.000 And then this is a way for them to pick somebody else.

02:09:32.000 Completely shock the system.

02:09:34.000 And you're not gonna have debates between this person and Donald Trump.

02:09:37.000 You're not gonna have opposition research on this person.

02:09:39.000 It's peculiar.

02:09:41.000 It's peculiar that they scheduled their convention 75 days before the general election, which is totally unprecedented, and it's caused problems for the Democratic campaign because most several states, at least one, have rules in place that you have to submit who the candidate is for the general election 90 days before the general election.

02:09:57.000 So by having them in the county before, it's caused problems for them, and they want to do it remotely.

02:10:01.000 So I agree with you.

02:10:02.000 There's something very fishy going on with us.

02:10:04.000 With this and the fact that they're having these debates just at the end of June earlier than ever before is, is also bizarre because it seems like they're setting the stage to make the case for Joe Biden to be ousted and replaced with an ambush candidate.

02:10:16.000 I agree with you on that.

02:10:18.000 Yeah.

02:10:18.000 And it's, and it's not even necessarily an ambush if this is their plan altogether for the DNC convention.

02:10:25.000 And it would certainly explain why they didn't want to certify Joe Biden to be on the ballot in the state of Ohio, but lots of shenanigans at play here.

02:10:34.000 Any last words, Chase, about, you know, just the election, the upcoming presidential debate, the hearing tomorrow?

02:10:40.000 I mean, what's at stake for you?

02:10:42.000 What are you going to do?

02:10:43.000 Let's just say the Info Wars does go under and you find yourself not having a job next week.

02:10:48.000 What is next for you, hypothetically speaking?

02:10:50.000 Because I guess that would mean that you and the rest of the crew would be unemployed.

02:10:55.000 Yeah, so I will go wherever Alex goes as long as he'll have me.

02:10:59.000 And I'm not worried about myself.

02:11:00.000 I've already had people reach out for opportunities.

02:11:02.000 I know that I'll be fine.

02:11:03.000 I know that Alex will be fine.

02:11:05.000 This crew, I think, is the most talented crew in the business.

02:11:07.000 They will be fine one way or the other.

02:11:08.000 It's just a shock, so I'm not really concerned about that.

02:11:11.000 I would just encourage your listeners to follow me at realchasegeyser on X and follow Alex Jones at realalexjones on X. I don't think that they're going to succeed in taking over his social media account, so that's the best place to follow him.

02:11:27.000 Thanks for tuning in.

02:11:49.000 Yeah, I hope so.

02:11:50.000 I mean, it would really suck to, you know, to see InfoWars go under because I do think that Alex does a lot of great work and, you know, part of the way I was able to really launch my career after working for Project Veritas is when I started as an independent journalist and Alex Jones would oftentimes have me on as an InfoWars contributor.

02:12:08.000 So, you know, he certainly is a free speech icon and it would be a shame if InfoWars were to shut down.

02:12:15.000 Along with your social media accounts, I know that, I mean, look, I may not like your publisher, of course, but I do like you and I do think that the topic of the book is interesting.

02:12:25.000 So once again, the title of your book and where people can purchase your book.

02:12:30.000 The Rise of American Populism.

02:12:32.000 You can find it on my Twitter account, linked at Amazon.

02:12:34.000 Please pre-order it because pre-orders count toward first day sales.

02:12:38.000 And we wanted to race to the top because despite the fact

02:12:42.000 That it's published by Tony Lyons.

02:12:44.000 I guarantee reading this book will get more votes for Trump than the money that Tony Lyons may spend on a pack for RFK Jr.

02:12:51.000 Well, I appreciate you being a good sport and, you know, entertaining my conversation about this.

02:12:56.000 You don't attack Laura Loomer head-on.

02:12:57.000 Look, you know, look.

02:12:58.000 You can't attack Laura Loomer head-on.

02:13:00.000 She's unleashed.

02:13:01.000 I love InfoWars.

02:13:03.000 I love InfoWars and I love

02:13:06.000 You know, a lot of people that I know, unfortunately, a lot of people in the conservative media world, unfortunately, have the same publisher, but I just feel that it's important for people to know it's not a dig at you, it's not a dig at InfoWars, and I'm sure your book is very interesting.

02:13:21.000 I'll read it myself, actually.

02:13:22.000 Hopefully you'll sign a copy for me, because I do think it sounds very interesting.

02:13:26.000 Do you want me to get Tony to sign it?

02:13:27.000 Do you want me and Tony to sign it for you?

02:13:30.000 No, but I just personally think that people...

02:13:34.000 I just personally think that people deserve to know, you know, the truth about these things, right?

02:13:40.000 Because I think that... I can't talk shit about them, so I just have to nod. 0.98

02:13:44.000 I know. 0.99

02:13:44.000 I understand. 0.99

02:13:45.000 I just think that, you know, it's an interesting business relationship. 0.69

02:13:48.000 I will say, they fucking spelled forward wrong on the audible version of the book. 0.96

02:13:52.000 They spelled it F-O-R-W-A-R-D. 0.99

02:13:54.000 It's been a fucking nightmare to get them to correct it. 0.96

02:13:57.000 Well, hopefully they correct it. 0.99

02:14:00.000 Well, Trump elected.

02:14:01.000 I just want all the MAGA money to go to Trump.

02:14:03.000 I don't want any money going to, you know, any shady figures.

02:14:03.000 Me too.

02:14:06.000 But look, I think that the book, it sounds really interesting.

02:14:09.000 I'm going to read it.

02:14:10.000 I hope that you'll sign a copy for me.

02:14:12.000 Again, keep us posted on how this hearing turns out tomorrow.

02:14:16.000 You said that you're also going to be tweeting out a live link for people to watch it before we close out here.

02:14:22.000 What about the link that people can go to watch the hearing tomorrow?

02:14:25.000 Yeah, just follow Alex at RealAlexJones because I am going to be going to Houston with Alex tomorrow morning.

02:14:32.000 Yes to this show possibly as well.

02:14:37.000 I know Bannon wants to have Alex going to be in.

02:14:42.000 If you follow me and Alex on, you will know as immediately as possible after this case develops.

02:14:49.000 And it's 10 a.m.

02:14:50.000 Central, and that's, of course, 11 a.m.

02:14:53.000 Eastern, when people can watch it.

02:14:55.000 So, again, Chase, we wish you all the best, and, you know, we wish everybody at the InfoWars crew our best as well.

02:15:03.000 We certainly don't want to, you know, InfoWars shutter their doors because of this $1.5 billion judgment.

02:15:11.000 And so we'll be thinking of you, and again, thank you so much for coming on the show.

02:15:18.000 Thank you so much for having me.

02:15:19.000 It's an honor and pleasure to be with you.

02:15:20.000 Nice to finally interact with you.

02:15:22.000 Absolutely, and we'll have you on again sometime too, so thanks for coming on.

02:15:26.000 Thank you.

02:15:28.000 Yep.

02:15:28.000 Thank you.

02:15:31.000 Yeah, so this is going to be really interesting tomorrow, this hearing.

02:15:36.000 I mean, it's out of control.

02:15:38.000 $1.55, that's the judgment for so-called defamation, so...

02:15:42.000 I don't know.

02:15:43.000 It's a bit excessive, but we will see what happens in this bankruptcy hearing.

02:15:48.000 I'm sure that I'll be tweeting about it one way or another tomorrow.

02:15:51.000 That, of course, was Chase Geiser.

02:15:54.000 We're going to take some questions in the chat, but...

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02:16:44.000 Let's go to the chat and take some questions.

02:16:54.000 Let's see.

02:16:59.000 Chase is awesome.

02:17:03.000 Uh, Tam said the coffee's really great.

02:17:06.000 Let's scroll up a bit.

02:17:07.000 Let's see what people were saying.

02:17:13.000 Alex and critical guests were what mattered. 0.71

02:17:15.000 Not flashy backgrounds and studios and all that garbage.

02:17:17.000 Let's see.

02:17:18.000 Let's see.

02:17:19.000 Side with the Alpha Conservatives.

02:17:22.000 Scroll up.

02:17:31.000 And again, look, you know, I wasn't trying to create an awkward situation there for Chase, but, uh, you know, I take my integrity seriously and I was railing very hard against Tony Lyons.

02:17:40.000 And I, you know, I liked Chase very much and he asked me to come on my show.

02:17:45.000 And, uh, I said, yes, I said he could come on.

02:17:47.000 And then he said, yeah.

02:17:48.000 And of course, uh, you know, he, he could promote his book on my show and that it occurred to me before the show that the publisher for the InfoWars books was Skyhorse Publishing.

02:18:00.000 And so I just wanted to, you know, make it clear because people can choose to do what they want with their own money.

02:18:06.000 And I'm not telling people to not buy his book.

02:18:08.000 I mean, look, I'm sure that it's an interesting book, but I do want people to know that if they buy the book or they buy books from Sky Horse Publishing, that you

02:18:18.000 You know, are sending money to a publishing company that is owned by a guy who happens to be the head of RFK's Super PAC.

02:18:26.000 And I'm not going to lie to my audience.

02:18:28.000 You know, look, I obviously want people that I know who are writing good books to be able to have success with their books.

02:18:36.000 But I also don't want the head of RFK's PAC to be making millions of dollars so that he can be pumping more money into into RFK.

02:18:45.000 So, you know, look,

02:18:47.000 It's a choice that people make.

02:18:49.000 I'm not telling people, don't buy this book.

02:18:52.000 Okay, I'm not trying to be malicious.

02:18:55.000 I'm sure that it's a good book.

02:18:57.000 I just want everybody to know what the story is with Sky Horse Publishing.

02:19:00.000 So, you know, I wasn't trying to create an awkward situation there.

02:19:03.000 I just personally

02:19:05.000 Would feel like a hypocrite, right?

02:19:07.000 For telling people about Sky Horse Publishing two weeks ago and months ago on my Twitter account and then, you know, having somebody come on to talk about a book that's published by Sky Horse.

02:19:18.000 Again, Chase is not an RFK supporter, and he signed a non-disparagement agreement, so he's not really exactly allowed to talk about the situation.

02:19:27.000 And he's a Trump supporter, so if you want to support him by purchasing his book, that's your choice.

02:19:34.000 I, like I said, I just feel like I had to disclose the information about Tony.

02:19:38.000 So that's, you know, it's not an attack on Chase.

02:19:42.000 It's just me making sure that there is transparency about who Tony Lyons is.

02:19:48.000 And, you know, I feel like that's my responsibility as a Trump loyalist.

02:19:52.000 So some people may get mad.

02:19:54.000 Oh, well, let's scroll down and see some more questions in the chat.

02:19:59.000 Down.

02:20:06.000 Yeah, I do.

02:20:10.000 Why?

02:20:10.000 Because I make an effort to try to wear a different top on all my shows because I'm like, oh, you know, what if they think I wore the same outfit twice?

02:20:18.000 But I definitely wear the same clothes twice.

02:20:20.000 I just try to have variety.

02:20:22.000 Like, I actually was going to wear a shirt earlier, and then I said, oh, I wore

02:20:25.000 I wore that shirt not too long ago, so I can't wear that shirt.

02:20:28.000 So, this is actually a brand new shirt.

02:20:30.000 This is my first time wearing this shirt, so I'm glad that you noticed that I wore something different because this is not a shirt that I've worn before.

02:20:37.000 So, brand new outfit for Luma Unleashed tonight.

02:20:44.000 Someone said, yeah, conflict of interest there, Laura.

02:20:46.000 I see where you're coming from.

02:20:47.000 Yeah, and look, Chase was a good sport about it. 0.99

02:20:50.000 So again, I'm not trying to be an asshole. 0.99

02:20:53.000 I just feel like I personally have a responsibility as a Trump loyalist to disclose these things because otherwise I'd be a hypocrite. 0.98

02:21:02.000 I'm not a fan of Tony Lyons.

02:21:05.000 Doesn't mean I'm not a fan of Infowars or Alex Jones or Chase Geyser.

02:21:08.000 That's, you know, a totally different subject there.

02:21:11.000 I have no problem with Alex and Infowars and Chase.

02:21:14.000 I'm just talking about the publisher.

02:21:16.000 That's all.

02:21:17.000 Just gonna keep it 100.

02:21:20.000 Let's see.

02:21:22.000 Someone said, oh my God, are you serious, Laura?

02:21:25.000 Yes.

02:21:26.000 I don't know if you're saying, oh my God, are you serious because you're upset with me or you're saying, oh my God, you're serious because of what I just disclosed and you didn't know about it.

02:21:36.000 But yes, I'm serious.

02:21:37.000 Let's scroll down some more.

02:21:39.000 Always serious.

02:21:41.000 Always serious.

02:21:43.000 Super serious.

02:21:50.000 Someone said, let's see.

02:21:54.000 The only awkward was he found your words amazing.

02:21:57.000 The rest of us find Laura amazing.

02:21:59.000 Is Laura Loomer a Christian?

02:22:01.000 No, I'm Jewish, but we love, I mean, look, everybody I work with is Christian and look, I have no problem with Christians.

02:22:09.000 So I don't see why that would matter, but I appreciate it.

02:22:15.000 Let's see.

02:22:16.000 Someone said I look great.

02:22:17.000 Thank you so much.

02:22:21.000 I said that because you were, okay, so they said, oh my god, are you serious?

02:22:24.000 Because they were shocked about Skyhorse Publishing.

02:22:27.000 Yeah, I'm serious.

02:22:28.000 So I publish a report about it.

02:22:30.000 People can go read it.

02:22:31.000 Again, I'm not trying to, you know, hurt people's book sales, but I am just letting people know that when you buy books from Skyhorse Publishing, Tony Lyons gets rich.

02:22:41.000 And, you know, one of the things that this guy's doing with his money right now in a presidential election year is propping up RFK's pack.

02:22:47.000 So.

02:22:49.000 Again, I'm sure it's a wonderful book.

02:22:54.000 Let's see.

02:22:55.000 We have a $10 Super Chat.

02:22:56.000 Let's read the Super Chat.

02:22:59.000 Laura, I agree.

02:23:01.000 The better on releasing your film, the better.

02:23:02.000 Trump, I'm sure, will mention your film on all of his rallies until Election Day, based on the trailer you've shown, will be a hit.

02:23:10.000 Well, thank you so much.

02:23:11.000 I'm glad you think so.

02:23:12.000 I sure hope that President Trump will use it.

02:23:14.000 Maybe he'll even play it at his rallies when people are waiting.

02:23:17.000 Who knows?

02:23:18.000 Let's see what else.

02:23:19.000 What are some of these chats?

02:23:20.000 What do we have here?

02:23:24.000 Um, Ronald Rump said, smash the hunter doll behind you and give us an Alex Jones roar. 0.98

02:23:32.000 Save Info Wars.

02:23:35.000 I don't want to break it.

02:23:36.000 It's a really sensitive doll.

02:23:38.000 And MC7, God bless America and President Donald J. Trump, the greatest president ever.

02:23:45.000 Raider.

02:23:47.000 Here's another bump.

02:23:48.000 Well, thank you so much for all those super chats.

02:23:48.000 All right.

02:23:56.000 Someone said, at least she lets us know who the people are.

02:23:59.000 Yep, that is very true.

02:24:00.000 You know, at least I'm letting you know.

02:24:02.000 So I just want to be honest with all of you.

02:24:06.000 Do I think the debate is going to happen?

02:24:08.000 Yeah, you know, I think the debate's going to happen, but it's going to be really bad for Joe Biden.

02:24:16.000 Alrighty, well, you know, we answered a lot of Super Chats tonight.

02:24:20.000 We had two great guests.

02:24:22.000 A lot of interesting things happened today up on Capitol Hill.

02:24:25.000 You had President Trump meeting with the House Republicans and also the Senate Republican leadership.

02:24:31.000 Also today released is President Trump's interview with Logan Paul, who's a popular

02:24:38.000 We're good to go.

02:24:55.000 We also have the Virginia primary on Tuesday.

02:24:58.000 So if you live in Virginia, be sure that you vote in the primary because that's taking place.

02:25:03.000 And I know that President Donald Trump is going to be doing a teletown hall out of Virginia on Monday, June 17th.

02:25:12.000 So for those of you who live in Virginia, stay tuned for that because you have an election coming up.

02:25:18.000 Let's see what else.

02:25:23.000 Someone said, so by buying the book, we're giving money to RFK Jr.'

02:25:27.000 's Super PAC, which is basically funding a contingent election against Trump.

02:25:32.000 Unfortunately, yeah.

02:25:33.000 So, I feel like I have a moral responsibility to say that.

02:25:37.000 I like Chase.

02:25:38.000 I like InfoWars.

02:25:39.000 I'm not trying to hinder anybody's book sales, but being honest that

02:25:44.000 Logically speaking, when you buy books from Skyhorse Publishing, yeah, Tony Lyons gets rich and Tony Lyons might donate more money to the Super PAC American Values that he is the head of for RFK Jr.

02:25:58.000 I'm just keeping it real because, again, yeah, I've been very critical of Tony Lyons and

02:26:05.000 It would be very hypocritical of me to start, you know, promoting books by Skyhorse after I told people about Tony Lyons.

02:26:12.000 So, it's not an attack, again, on Alex Jones or InfoWars or Chase Geyser.

02:26:19.000 Again, I'm sure the book is interesting and if you want to order the book, then, you know, that's a personal decision that you're going to have to make.

02:26:26.000 I'm not telling people to not order the book.

02:26:28.000 I wanted Chase on my show.

02:26:30.000 Chase is on my show.

02:26:31.000 He came out with a book and he's talking about the book.

02:26:35.000 But again, you know, there's a lot of actors right now in this political season.

02:26:40.000 Tony Lyons is one of them.

02:26:42.000 And you even heard Chase himself say that he's, you know, a populist and that he supports President Trump and he's against RFK Jr.

02:26:49.000 So I'm not doubting the sincerity of Chase.

02:26:51.000 You know, he clearly says that he thinks that RFK Jr.'

02:26:56.000 's camp is a CIA op.

02:26:59.000 So he's not going to say those things publicly.

02:27:02.000 If he is an RFK supporter.

02:27:03.000 So, again, if you want to, you know, check out Chase and his book, that's your choice to do so.

02:27:09.000 I am just, again, it's my job as a journalist to show people the money flows between these Super PACs and the players involved.

02:27:18.000 So, I'm sure that it's a great book and hopefully he will send me a copy and sign it for me as well.

02:27:29.000 Let's see.

02:27:32.000 Yes, that also goes for the book Unhuman by Jack Posobiec that just came out too.

02:27:37.000 That's another Sky Horse book, right?

02:27:39.000 So what Tony's doing is he's giving book deals to all of the most popular Trump supporters and then when he sells millions of copies of books by Trump supporters, he's going to use that money to then go support RFK.

02:27:54.000 So full disclosure is important.

02:27:57.000 I'm just being honest.

02:28:00.000 So with that, thank you so much to everybody who tuned in to Loomer Unleashed tonight.

02:28:06.000 There's not going to be Loomer Unleashed on Tuesday because I'm going to be traveling out of town.

02:28:11.000 But Loomer Unleashed will resume next week.

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02:28:18.000 So stay tuned for the promo that's going to be released on my social media accounts.

02:28:21.000 It's going to be some extra content going into the presidential election year.

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