Tonight marks the first presidential debate of the 2024 election cycle as Donald Trump and Joe Biden take on each other in the first Democratic primary debate. This marks an important milestone as the election transitions from the primary season to the more focused and intense final competition leading up to November 6th.
00:46:42.000As many of you know, tonight marks the first presidential debate of the 2024 general election cycle.
00:46:48.000The political world and the voting public will be closely watching tonight as Donald Trump faces off against Joe Biden.
00:46:55.000This debate signifies an important milestone as the election transitions from the primary season to the more focused and intense final competition leading up to November.
00:47:04.000This year is flying by, as we are already just four and a half months out from election day.
00:47:12.000First, let's discuss the failing Joe Biden.
00:47:15.000Just like our country is in decline, well, Joe Biden himself is very much in decline.
00:47:20.000In many ways, it is hard to believe that we have suffered through nearly four years of this walking disaster of a man already.
00:47:27.000Time certainly flies by when everything is in decline, I guess.
00:47:31.000And as we all know, Joe Biden has not been running the government for the majority of his time in office.
00:47:36.000Instead, that responsibility has fallen to Kamala Harris, Barack Obama, and countless other unelected bureaucrats throughout the executive branch, like Biden advisers Bob Bauer and his wife, Anita Dunn.
00:47:48.000Joe Biden functions as a figurehead, a ceremonial president who is simply there to smile, check boxes, and garner votes.
00:47:56.000The Biden administration has been defined by decline and inaction.
00:48:00.000Under their watch, much of the progress Donald Trump made during his time in office has been erased, sadly.
00:48:06.000Many of Trump's policies were immediately rolled back once Joe Biden entered the Oval Office, after the stolen election.
00:48:12.000The economy has been allowed to unravel at the seams.
00:48:15.000Inflation, sparked by COVID, has never been dealt with.
00:48:19.000The wealth gap in this nation has been allowed to widen, contradicting the left's claims of opposing such inequality.
00:48:25.000In fact, the distance between this nation's richest and poorest citizens has never been greater.
00:48:30.000The middle class has been further pushed out of existence.
00:48:33.000Around the world, America's position in power has declined rapidly.
00:48:37.000Under President Trump, we were a respected nation once again, even feared in some cases.
00:48:43.000Now, however, we are the laughingstock of the world.
00:48:46.000Everyone can see our listless, feckless leader for what he is.
00:48:50.000Everyone knows that this nation is barely holding itself together, let alone holding the world together.
00:48:56.000So under Joe Biden, countless flashpoints around the globe have been allowed to flare up.
00:49:02.000Ukraine, Gaza, Taiwan, North Korea, The list goes on and on.
00:49:06.000The past few years have been nothing but a downhill slide for this nation.
00:49:11.000Similarly, Biden's mental functions have been sliding downhill as well.
00:49:15.000Back in 2020, it was already apparent that he wasn't fully there.
00:49:19.000His mental faculties were clearly not what they once were back when he was Vice President.
00:49:24.000As his time in office has gone on, his condition has steadily worsened.
00:49:29.000However, just in the past few months, his decline has rapidly accelerated.
00:49:33.000It is to the point now that the White House insiders are sounding the alarm bells to the DNC and members of the mainstream media.
00:49:41.000They are quietly hinting that Biden will essentially be incapacitated soon into a second term if he manages to secure it.
00:49:49.000This decline is clearly observable in many of the recent press conferences and public appearances Biden has done.
00:50:24.000Despite being dragged through countless court hearings over the past year, he has persevered All while still campaigning multiple days a week all around the nation.
00:50:32.000Moreover, President Trump's base has been re-energized by the blatant campaign of corrupt lawfare directed at the 45th president.
00:50:39.000This has served only to highlight the corruption in the government and how the system protects itself from outsiders.
00:50:46.000President Trump also has the privilege of running on a successful first term in office, unlike Joe Biden.
00:50:52.000Despite issues with bad personnel, obstruction, and the unfortunate COVID pandemic, President Trump was able to achieve a great deal.
00:51:00.000Additionally, many Americans saw the Trump years as a time of prosperity and optimism, and I personally think that he's the best president of my lifetime, at least, if not in the history of our entire nation.
00:51:28.000And despite a global COVID lockdown, which many believe was a bioweapon used to interfere in President Trump's With all of this in mind, tonight's debate should be an easy win for President Trump.
00:51:36.000Trump never mandated vaccines or mask mandates, and he worked as hard as he could to get the country open again, despite people like Dr. Fauci working to subvert his administration and work against him with false and fake science.
00:51:48.000With all of this in mind, tonight's debate should be an easy win for President Trump.
00:51:54.000However, expectations are so abysmally low for Joe Biden that even a terrible performance by Donald Trump is still far above what most people expect to see from Joe Biden tonight.
00:52:05.000But we know that there's no such thing as a terrible performance from Donald Trump because every single time he's at a debate, especially in positions where he's under pressure, like he will be tonight, three against one, I think that President Trump always shines the brightest when he is facing adversity and opposition.
00:52:22.000So whatever cocktail of stimulants they pump into Biden before the debate tonight, it always seems to be just enough for him to get by.
00:52:30.000With only a handful of gaffes and meltdowns.
00:52:33.000Moreover, Joe Biden is in friendly territory with CNN, moderating the debate.
00:52:37.000And as we have seen, CNN has already revealed that they will be muting the candidates when they begin to speak over each other.
00:52:43.000They don't allow for any audience to take place or be present tonight at the debate.
00:52:49.000And this is really, at the end of the day, just code for having an excuse to silence and censor Donald Trump when he tries to refute Biden's many lies.
00:52:57.000All of this adds up to a debate that should be an easy Trump victory.
00:53:01.000But ultimately, I'm sure that it will be rigged, and it's already being rigged just by the terms of the debate that have been laid out by CNN and Joe Biden's campaign.
00:53:11.000And I'm sure tonight that we'll see that all of this will come together to be done to minimize any such win for President Trump in the eyes of the mainstream media.
00:53:20.000So as we watch tonight, make note of how many times the moderators interrupt Trump versus Biden.
00:53:25.000Take note of how many times the moderators cleverly redirect the conversation or needlessly correct or fact-check Donald Trump.
00:53:32.000And also, be wary and count how many times they mute Trump compared to Joe Biden.
00:53:38.000I think it will be pretty clear that this is not exactly a level playing field.
00:53:42.000But then again, when has President Trump ever been given a fair shake?
00:53:46.000Even way back during the 2016 primary debates, the room was packed to the brim with donors and neocons who would clap like seals, you know, please clap, for imbeciles like Jeb Bush, and they would also boo whenever Trump so much as opened his mouth.
00:54:00.000But despite the rigging, Donald Trump was able to overcome all of that by being sharp, incisive, and aggressive.
00:55:40.000I feel like I'm a teenager getting ready to go to my first concert or, you know, getting ready to go out for a fun night.
00:55:47.000Because let's be honest, If there's anything that's more fun than going to a Trump rally, it's watching President Trump debate his opposition.
00:55:56.000And if there's anything more fun than that, it's watching President Trump debate his opposition while it's being hosted by fake news CNN.
00:56:03.000So we know, right, we all know that this is not going to be a fair debate, just like this has not been a fair election season.
00:56:10.000This has not been You know, we have not seen fair trials for President Trump.
00:56:15.000We're not really living in the age of fairness, right?
00:56:18.000We are living in the age of rigged elections, a lack of freedom of speech, and censorship, and obviously all of the political elites on the left and the right and the establishment are uniting to try to stop President Trump.
00:56:32.000And, you know, we can talk about how there's now a sense of unity in the Republican Party, Well, that's what they're going to tell you.
00:56:38.000But at the end of the day, right, all of these Republicans in office understand that they're going to need President Trump to win their elections.
00:56:45.000They're going to need President Trump in order to fundraise in a general election year.
00:56:48.000And so do I trust that all of these people truly have President Trump's back or that they're actually rooting for him to win?
00:56:56.000But despite all of that adversity, we're going to see President Trump persevere, and I'm really excited that those of you watching have decided to spend your debate night with me.
00:57:04.000The debate is going to start in about 40 minutes.
00:57:07.000It's going to be live on CNN, but I am going to be carrying the stream here, and so you can watch my debate coverage.
00:57:15.000Don't worry, I'm not going to be, you know, over-talking It's just a place where you can watch the debate and then afterwards, of course, I'll have some post debate commentary and prior to the debate starting tonight.
00:57:28.000I'm going to have some pre debate coverage with former.
00:57:33.000Governor of Illinois is actually a Democrat.
00:57:35.000He calls himself a Trump a crap, so he's going to join me tonight is former Democrat governor of Illinois.
00:57:42.000Rod Blagojevich, so he's going to be on momentarily and.
00:57:48.000We're going to talk about whether or not Illinois is in play this year for President Trump, President Trump's rising poll numbers, and also the overwhelming support for President Trump in the black community.
00:58:02.000But before we get started, I want to show you this article from the New York Post That came out today.
00:58:08.000You know, as you've seen, President Trump and his campaign advisors have, I would say, joking, but they're not joking because we all know that it's not a joke.
00:58:17.000And you've seen even medical doctors come out live on television and talk about how Joe Biden is clearly under the influence of drugs and stimulants in order to campaign and participate in the debate tonight.
00:58:30.000So here's an article tonight from the New York Post that came out earlier today.
00:58:33.000Adderall Botox and a B12 shot in the butt.
00:58:36.000Why Trump's claim that Biden will be pumped up on drugs for the debate isn't so far fetched.
00:58:41.000Donald Trump has claimed that Joe Biden will be pumped up on drugs to enhance his performance at Thursday's debate, including getting a big fat shot in the ass.
00:58:48.000His assertions have been dismissed by some segments of the media as a campaign bluster.
00:58:53.000But private doctors to the rich and famous tell The Post that VIPs often use drug cocktails in the ass.
00:58:58.000And I don't even have any shame saying that.
00:59:00.000an edge before they take the spotlight for a big event.
00:59:02.000Yeah, I mean, look, even I, I don't use drugs, but when I'm feeling low energy, I go and I get an IV and I don't even have any shame saying that.
00:59:11.000I go every three weeks, I go get an IV because I feel tired a lot of the time.
00:59:17.000I travel a lot, and I want to be healthy.
00:59:37.000But I definitely go to IV clinics at least once a month and I will get, you know, zinc, I'll get vitamin C, I'll get vitamin D, glutathione, I'll get biotin, I'll get vitamin B. I get all types of vitamins injected into my body and I'll sit there for an hour at a time because, you know, it really helps you feel better.
00:59:57.000And you can do this once a week, I was told.
00:59:59.000I just go once a month because, you know, they're kind of expensive.
01:00:02.000They're almost like $200 every single time you go and you get one of these injections.
01:00:08.000But you can actually go once a week, and they certainly do boost your energy.
01:00:12.000And so doctors here told the New York Post that not only do they think that Joe Biden is getting IVs or shots of vitamin B, which, of course, boosts your energy levels, but also, you know, they said that he could possibly be on Adderall for enhanced focus as well.
01:00:31.000These can include everything from peptides to a boost in brain function and Botox to avoid a spready brow to Adderall for enhanced focus, and, yes, sometimes even a shot in the butt.
01:00:41.000Yeah, I mean, they give you your injections in the butt.
01:00:44.000So, I used to get just the sole vitamin B injections before I started doing the vitamin IVs.
01:00:51.000And anytime I would get a vitamin B shot, they would give it to me in the ass.
01:01:14.000And I'm sure a lot of people have gotten vitamin B shots or vitamin injections.
01:01:18.000And if you have, then you also know that that's how it's done.
01:01:24.000Before I interview my guest tonight, I want to play a new Trump campaign ad that just came out today that's actually going to be broadcast during commercial breaks from the debate.
01:01:34.000So this is an ad that was put out by the Trump campaign today, and it's really about Joe Biden's deteriorating state and his mental decline.
01:01:44.000So take a look at this new Trump campaign ad.
01:01:47.000When you think about the Joe Biden you saw in the debate, ask yourself a question.
01:01:52.000Do you think the guy who was defeated by the stairs, got taken down by his bike, lost a fight with his jacket, and regularly gets lost, makes it four more years in the White House?
01:02:05.000And you know who's waiting behind him, right?
01:02:20.000I personally think that it's a funny ad and it's something that everybody can relate to because, let's be honest, everybody knows that Joe Biden is not in a good mental state and he is rapidly declining.
01:02:34.000I mean, there's rumors that he actually shit himself, okay, at the G7 Summit recently.
01:02:40.000There's rumors that this guy shit himself while meeting with the Pope.
01:02:43.000And there are international media reports about how he passed gas in front of the royal family in the UK.
01:02:51.000So this guy is an embarrassment to our country, and he clearly is not demonstrating the same type of stamina or energy levels that President Trump has.
01:03:02.000And as we know, President Trump has enormous energy levels.
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01:05:27.000But joining me now to discuss the debate prior to going live at 9pm tonight and to also talk about his support for President Donald Trump As a Democrat, is former Democrat Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich.
01:05:44.000Rod, thank you so much for joining me tonight.
01:05:59.000So, you know, you are not a typical Trump surrogate in the sense that you're not just a conservative or a registered Republican.
01:06:08.000You actually are a registered Democrat, and you were the former governor of Illinois, but you have decided to endorse President Trump over Joe Biden despite the fact that you have, you know, helped well-known Democrats in the past get elected, people like Nancy Pelosi, and you are Well, I support President Trump for several reasons.
01:06:27.000So please explain to the viewers why, as a Democrat, you are endorsing President Trump for reelection and what you expect to see tonight ahead of the first presidential debate.
01:06:39.000Well, I support President Trump for several reasons.
01:06:42.000I have a personal reason, but in addition to the personal reason, and I wouldn't support him if I didn't believe in these things, I think today's Democratic Party is a very different party than the party I grew up in, the party I was involved in, the party that I represented as governor twice in Illinois, three terms in Congress.
01:07:00.000I was the first Democrat governor to endorse Obama for president in 2008.
01:07:03.000He and I knew each other in Illinois politics here in Chicago, came up together about the same time, different parts of town.
01:07:12.000I supported Nancy Pelosi to be the Democratic leader when I was a member of the House.
01:07:17.000And so I think I have really strong Democratic credentials.
01:07:21.000I like the things that I did as governor that helped people, working people, everyday people.
01:07:25.000And I look at today's Democratic Party and I don't see a party that cares about those people.
01:07:29.000And I look at President Trump, I look at the new Republican Party that he's been creating.
01:07:34.000I think about the political realignment that's going on in American politics led by President Trump.
01:07:39.000And so much of what the Democrat Party used to stand for and the people that we fought for are really the people that President Trump is fighting for and that today's Democratic Party has abandoned.
01:07:50.000People who go to work every day, the men and women who do the work of the world.
01:07:57.000He's promising to do so again, and I know that he will.
01:08:00.000I think about the black community, which has been very, very generous to me when it comes to support and votes and very loving to me during difficult times in my life and my family's life when Calamity came down on us, but I see what's happening with the black community, today's Democratic Party, how it treats the black community.
01:08:16.000It treats it with the Democratic Party today and Joe Biden treats the black community as just a block of votes.
01:08:22.000They're not at all interested in lifting black people out of the difficult conditions that they face in places like the inner city of Chicago.
01:08:30.000They'd rather just leave them there and keep them angry at those in our society who are doing better economically.
01:08:37.000Because if the Democrats lose the 95% of the black vote that they get traditionally consistently in elections, they can't win elections.
01:08:45.000And so they have a very cynical, racist policy towards the black community, led by the so-called elite white liberals of the Democrat Party.
01:08:53.000When I think about the values that matter to most people, Faith in God.
01:09:15.000It's actually become more of what the Republican Party used to be.
01:09:18.000The Republican Party of the Bushes and the Cheneys.
01:09:21.000In the Mitt Romney's, the Country Club Corporate Republican Party, they've moved over to today's Democrat Party, joined by a group of radical socialists.
01:09:32.000And the typical average working person that's made up the bulk of the Democratic Party and the black community and the Latino community have been left out.
01:09:41.000And that's why Trump is going to win a historic number of black votes and Latino votes in this election.
01:09:46.000And it's why I feel very confident that he's not only going to win The battleground states, but that he has a very good chance of winning a state like Illinois that hasn't gone to a Republican candidate since 1988.
01:09:56.000Yeah, and there has been some discussion about whether or not Illinois is in play.
01:10:04.00014% of the population in Illinois is actually of the black community.
01:10:10.000And President Trump's policies mean if you look at his first term in office, Yeah, the lowest unemployment for the black community.
01:10:16.000And now, if you look at somebody like Joe Biden, who was responsible for, you know, the crime bills and massive incarceration for young black males throughout Joe Biden's very lengthy political career as a senator, vice president, and now, unfortunately, in my mind, the illegitimate occupant of the White House.
01:10:36.000We also see, as you said, President Trump has Massive favorability among the black community.
01:10:41.000His recent rally in the Bronx compared to the rally that was hosted just this last weekend by Congresswoman AOC and Jamal Bowman who ended up losing his election in his primary race on Tuesday.
01:10:53.00025,000 people showed up to see President Trump in the Bronx and you didn't see him pandering to black people.
01:11:01.000You didn't see him, you know, trying to speak Ebonics or, uh, you know, listen to black, uh, like blasting rap music or throwing up gang signs.
01:11:10.000I mean, I say these things because this is the type of pandering that we're seeing coming out of the Democrat Party right now.
01:11:18.000And Joe Biden, to your point, has even gone as far as saying things like, oh, well, you're not black if you don't vote for me.
01:11:25.000And he even filmed a black outreach commercial several months ago.
01:11:29.000We played it on this show of himself Sitting with a black family eating fried chicken.
01:11:34.000Are you going to show me that or did you want me to comment on that?
01:11:40.000No, I just wanted to get your opinion on it.
01:11:42.000I mean, we could pull the clip, but we did show this clip several months ago.
01:11:46.000I just wanted to get your, you know, get your opinion on this.
01:11:49.000Do you think that members of the black community enjoy being pandered to in such stereotypical ways?
01:11:54.000Or do you think that President Trump just being himself and not really pandering or changing his campaign message to, you know, to go out and get the black or Hispanic vote is what you know, is behind his recent, you know, surge in polling when it comes to members of these communities?
01:12:10.000I think there's four factors that are contributing to President Trump's growing support, increasingly growing support in the black community.
01:12:19.000I think first and foremost, it's the failure of the Democratic Party to truly deliver for the black community, not just these last couple of years, these last three years with Joe Biden, but for a whole generation.
01:12:31.000It's been nothing but talk and promises.
01:12:35.000But no real fundamental opportunities to lift people who are living in poverty, out of poverty.
01:12:41.000And the fear of the Democrats is if they lose, if the black community comes out of poverty, they're going to lose that base of political support.
01:12:47.000It's a very cynical, calculated politics that they're playing.
01:12:51.000And the community is growing increasingly to learn and recognize the phoniness of what those Democratic Party policies have been.
01:12:58.000Yes, the Democratic political elite, largely made up of black political leaders, continue to advocate the policies of the Democrats, but at the grassroots level, at the street level, in the neighborhoods, and I see this in Chicago, where I live on the South side, on the on the West side, where I grew up, there's a real, very real undercurrent of talk.
01:13:20.000You hear it in the barbershops, People are talking amongst themselves.
01:13:23.000And they're seeing, you know, that they're expressing their frustration with the Democrats, that they find themselves in the same place that they've been for generations, as well as living in communities that are not safe.
01:13:35.000And the Democrat Party has been attacking and abandoning the very people that keep black people safe, and all of us safe, and that's the police.
01:13:42.000In addition to that, the second thing I would say is that President Trump has been vilified and persecuted in ways that people who've gone through the wrong side of the criminal justice system, like the black community, recognize.
01:13:58.000And these weaponized prosecutors who've turned non-crimes into crimes to persecute President Trump Uh, is something that the black community fully understands.
01:14:08.000I had difficulties myself with that criminal justice system.
01:14:11.000It was in the black community that I found love and support and understanding because they recognize when something is fake and fraudulent and they see what's being done to Trump and they recognize it and they're going to respond with votes for President Trump.
01:14:24.000The third point I would make is look at the issue of the criminal justice system and criminal justice reform.
01:14:29.000Joe Biden was the architect of the 1994 crime bill.
01:14:33.000He wrote a bill that condemned a whole generation of first time nonviolent offenders, drug offenders for the most part, to a whole, to decades of prison sentences, condemning them to no chance at a second chance.
01:14:47.000And as a result of that, an author by the name of Michelle Alexander wrote a bestselling book called The New Jim Crow in America, which she explains was the result of the policies of Joe Biden and the Clinton administration back in the mid 1990s.
01:15:01.000So the Democrat party has abandoned and persecuted the black community with its policies.
01:16:04.000He goes to the White House for eight years.
01:16:06.000I go to the big house for eight years.
01:16:07.000And during that eight years, I had a chance to spend a lot of time with some of my colleagues, black guys who'd been in prison for a long, long time and got to know them.
01:16:15.000And I saw how they admire Trump for a straightforward attitude and his personality and his willingness to go against the grain.
01:16:23.000So when I think about those factors and I think about the possibilities in this particular campaign.
01:16:28.000I'm confident and in fact we're seeing it already.
01:16:30.000The Trump campaign is going to make a concerted effort to try to win black votes and I hope they do because most Republican candidates don't even try.
01:16:37.000They are there for Trump to get and I predict he will get a record number of black votes and it's going to be among the reasons why he's going to win this election by a far bigger margin than any poll is going to indicate.
01:16:50.000Absolutely, and it is interesting that as a Democrat, you know, you couldn't count on somebody like Barack Hussein Obama to pardon you, but it was actually President Trump.
01:16:59.000So, you know, it just goes to show you that if President Trump truly was as vindictive and as focused on revenge as, you know, Joe Biden and the mainstream media like to falsely accuse him of being.
01:17:09.000And I predict that this is going to be a major focal point tonight by people like, you know, Jay Tapper and Dana Bash and Joe Biden himself, because they want to characterize President Trump as some vindictive dictator who's hellbent on, you know, getting back into office getting back into office so that he can imprison all of his political opponents.
01:17:27.000But clearly, President Trump, if he truly was a dictator, he's not going to be issuing pardons to Democrats like yourself.
01:17:34.000Well, look, my personal experience with President Trump is that he's a very kind person.
01:17:40.000I've gotten to know him just a little bit.
01:17:43.000I did his television show, Celebrity Apprentice.
01:17:45.000He was very kind to me on a personal level because he was sympathetic to the plight that I was going through.
01:17:50.000And who would have thought way back then when I did that show in 2009 that the years would go by, he would be the one that would rescue me from what was done to me.
01:17:57.000Restore my freedom, reunite me with my two little girls, my daughters, and my wife.
01:18:02.000And that then what was done to me at the AAA level to a Democrat governor would be used against him at the Major League level by a Democratic president's administration.
01:18:12.000And let's not kid ourselves, the DNC is working with the DOJ To do what they're doing to President Trump.
01:18:18.000This is a coordinated campaign and Biden knows it.
01:18:35.000But it's something that's so much larger than what's being done to him, a former president, and hopefully future president, or me, a Democrat governor.
01:18:43.000They're doing this to the American people.
01:18:45.000And the community, again, that recognizes this the most is the Black community.
01:18:49.000And I do believe Again, that the Democrats are overplaying their hands with their persecution of President Trump and put aside the outrageous lack of patriotism to destroy our rule of law and our Constitution for political purposes.
01:19:08.000It's also going to have, I really believe, A backfiring effect on the Biden campaign.
01:19:16.000I mean, I've seen it firsthand because, you know, I organized the rally in front of the Fulton County Jail the day that President Trump was arrested in Georgia when he had to take his mug shot.
01:19:27.000And, you know, you had people like Fannie Willis and Joe Biden and the Democrats outside having their little party and their press conferences with MSDNC where they were celebrating the fact that Donald Trump had to take a mugshot, but I found that most of the people who were outside of the jail at the rally I organized were black people.
01:19:45.000They were black people who were telling me that Fannie Willis had victimized their family members, too, and that they had family members, many of them were black men, their fathers, their uncles, their brothers, their cousins, serving inside the Fulton County Jail.
01:19:59.000And so, if anything, I think that you're absolutely correct that President Trump now, I guess, Being indicted four times and having to take a mugshot, being arrested, facing all of these guilty, guilty charges, has really earned him what I would like to call street cred with the black community.
01:20:18.000And they see, wow, they really are trying to go after this billionaire businessman.
01:20:26.000And I guess that in a country where people didn't really believe that politicians, or for the most part, I think that there's this general consensus in our country, correct me If you think I'm wrong.
01:20:38.000But for the most part, people tend to think that politicians are above the law.
01:20:41.000They see politicians breaking the law all the time, getting involved in corruption scandals.
01:20:46.000And very rarely do we see politicians, especially those who actually are guilty, and we have a lot of evidence of this.
01:20:53.000Just look at the Biden crime family, for example.
01:20:57.000They never seem to face any prosecution for their crimes.
01:21:02.000And so I think that you have a lot of people, both Republican, Independent, and Democrat, who are looking at President Trump and they're thinking, wow, you know, if a billionaire businessman and the President of the United States can have an election stolen from him and he can be fined hundreds of millions of dollars by corrupt judges Who have financial conflicts of interest, as is the case of Judge Merchant or personal conflicts in the case of Judge Ngoron.
01:21:30.000Because your average person is not a billionaire.
01:21:32.000Your average person is never going to hold elected office in this country.
01:21:35.000They're never going to be president of the United States.
01:21:38.000And then you also add in the racial component, too, where people are saying it's not just any billionaire, any politician, but it's a rich white man.
01:21:47.000And I think this has really They've taken the shutters off of a lot of people's eyes and disrupted the cognitive dissonance that millions of Americans have been subjected to over these last eight years of non-stop witch hunts in the media and false allegations against President Trump.
01:22:03.000And they're realizing, wow, everything that I've been told over these last eight years is a lie.
01:22:08.000And Donald Trump is right when he says the only thing standing in between you and them is me.
01:22:13.000Do you find that a lot of Democrats are going to be voting for President Trump because they feel like this is just Yes, I do.
01:22:24.000Again, I've talked about the black community.
01:22:26.000And again, I just want to emphasize that that's going to be something that's going to be very significant in favor of the president of President Trump.
01:22:34.000By the way, I just neglected to point out the migrant crisis is another issue.
01:22:38.000Illegal immigrants coming to America and being treated by Democratic politicians like our mayor here in Chicago and our governor here in Illinois, Governor Pritzker.
01:22:46.000And putting their priorities, the priorities of illegal immigrants above the interests of the black community is a very big issue in the black community.
01:22:53.000With regard to just general democratic voters, working class voters, irrespective of race, color, ethnicity, creed, whatever the case may be.
01:23:11.000Uh, from things they see is wrong and unfair.
01:23:14.000And I think they see exactly this when it comes to the persecution of President Trump.
01:23:20.000And I would also say that among working class Democrats, whether they be white ethnic Democrats, Latinos, where by the way, President Trump is going to score another huge success in terms of making, getting record numbers of Latino votes in this election as well.
01:23:35.000No, I think among the rank and file Democrats across the board, men and women who work.
01:23:40.000They see this and they ask themselves and they say, why is all of this happening to one man who has had so much success in his life?
01:23:49.000And all of a sudden, he's never had a problem with the law.
01:23:52.000And now suddenly all of these things are happening to this one man at one time.
01:23:56.000And then the next question they're asking themselves, and I think the answer to this question is admiration for Trump.
01:24:03.000They say, why would a guy who's had all that success in his life?
01:24:07.000The money he's made in business and real estate, the success he's had as a celebrity on his program, Celebrity Apprentice, a number one rated show.
01:24:14.000Why would a guy put himself in a place like this and take these hits and face this persecution and be vilified and treated the way he's been treated?
01:24:26.000Unless he truly does love this country.
01:24:29.000And unless he truly believes that he can fix it, and not only save America, but make America great again.
01:24:35.000See, I think most people are seeing it that way.
01:24:37.000And I think as time goes on and the persecution continues, and the persecution continues to mount against President Trump, I think more and more Democratic voters are going to leave the Democratic Party, at least in this election, and support him.
01:24:50.000And my pitch to the Democratic voter is put aside your party affiliation.
01:24:55.000There's something more important than your loyalty to your party.
01:25:21.000And I think in overwhelming numbers, Democrat voters are going to leave the Democrat party in this election and support Trump.
01:25:29.000Absolutely, and I think you hit the nail on the head there, Rod, in that their hatred for Donald Trump is greater than their love for their country.
01:25:36.000And that's the reason why we have so much division and so much chaos in our country.
01:25:40.000Not because of Donald Trump, not because of the so-called MAGA extremists, as Governor Pritzker has said.
01:25:46.000In fact, we have a clip, I believe, we can play here of Governor Pritzker comparing Donald Trump to Hitler and comparing what he likes to call MAGA extremists to Nazis.
01:25:59.000But before we play that, I do want to get your take on the pandering of the Biden campaign to the black community.
01:26:05.000We found that fried chicken cookout ad.
01:26:08.000And this is from earlier this year, but it's just an example of the gross stereotypes being pushed by the Biden campaign and the extreme pandering because they have nothing to campaign on.
01:26:18.000And so they have to campaign on identity politics and racial division as opposed to what you said Donald Trump is campaigning on, his true authentic self.
01:27:55.000I mean, I'm actually surprised that they would do something like that.
01:27:57.000It's so obvious and it shows the contempt that the Biden team has for the black community to think that something as blatantly stupid as that ad and using Fried chicken is some sort of a symbol.
01:28:11.000That wouldn't be anything but offensive to the Black community.
01:28:14.000The Black community, like everybody else, they're smart.
01:28:29.000But it just goes to show you the pandering and we saw this with Hillary Clinton too when when she was campaigning against Donald Trump when she was talking about carrying hot sauce in her purse.
01:28:39.000My point is is that Joe Biden Has nothing to campaign on.
01:28:43.000He has to use racial divisions and racial language and racial symbolism in order to, you know, try to campaign in these communities that he's losing a grip on.
01:28:56.000Over 65% of Americans in this country support mass deportations.
01:29:00.000And as we know, you know, President Trump has promised to launch a mass deportation campaign on day one of his Of this new administration and I think tonight that we're going to see President Trump trying to focus on issues like the invasion and the Biden migrant crisis that is resulting in the rapes and the murders of innocent people, innocent young children across this country.
01:29:22.000Every single day there's a new story about a young woman who's raped and murdered and strangled and buried in a ditch by an illegal alien.
01:29:28.000We're going to see President Trump focus on Bidenomics and inflation and the devastation that Biden's policies has caused our economy and everyday Americans who are struggling.
01:29:39.000And as we have seen by messaging that has already been pushed out tonight by Joe Biden and his surrogates and people like Gavin Newsom, who are in the spin room tonight, invited by the Biden campaign, and Jasmine Crockett and Raphael Warneck, all these people want to focus on are abortion.
01:30:00.000And, oh, Orange Man Bad and Trump supporters are MAGA extremists and domestic terrorists who committed an insurrection on January 6.
01:30:07.000Those are the three things that they're focusing on because they have absolutely no record in these terrible four years that Joe Biden has served in the White House.
01:30:17.000And did you say, Laura, that there was going to be a clip from Governor Pritzker?
01:30:21.000We'll play this clip as well because, you know, President Trump had a really big rally in Illinois not too long ago, and Governor Pritzker, just like many of his Democrat colleagues, they have nothing to run on.
01:30:32.000And so, you know, when asked about President Trump, instead of focusing on policies, he actually compared MAGA and President Trump to the Holocaust.
01:30:42.000Jen, you know, I led the building of a Holocaust museum.
01:30:47.000The rhetoric that's being used by Donald Trump, the rhetoric that's being used by some of the MAGA extremists, is rhetoric that was used in the 1930s in Germany.
01:31:00.000I am very concerned about the direction of the country if we see policies like what Donald Trump is espousing come to light for our country.
01:31:13.000So apparently if you want closed borders and you don't want to see invaders getting bussed into Chicago bus stations, which, you know, we've released exclusive video footage of that.
01:31:22.000We've been tracking the invasion in major cities and we have correspondents all over the country that film migrant buses and the invasion.
01:31:32.000I traveled down to the Darien Gap myself and I'm going to be releasing a documentary about this invasion into our country.
01:31:38.000But if you're a Democrat, like Governor Pritzker, According to them, you are a Nazi.
01:31:44.000You are just like Hitler if you want to kick all of the illegal aliens out of our country, if you are sick and tired of migrant crime, if you are sick and tired of inflation or gang violence in inner cities and places like Chicago where a lot of these Venezuelan gangbangers are coming in and absolutely wreaking havoc and promoting so much lethal violence in our communities.
01:32:41.000They were taping my phones, asking me to make him a United States Senator.
01:32:44.000That guy who just talked about the Holocaust Museum, he was instrumental in making it happen because he was able to get me as the governor to provide a lot of funding for the building of that Holocaust Museum.
01:32:55.000And that was a great thing that we did, and he deserves credit for that.
01:32:59.000He's on the FBI tapes asking me to make him a United States Senator and he says to me on that call he understands my desire to appoint someone who's black to the position to succeed Obama because at the time when Obama left for the White House there were no black senators.
01:33:14.000And in the age of Obama, I felt it was important to have someone who was black be appointed by me to the United States Senate.
01:33:21.000Pritzker's comment was, quote unquote, he understands I have a black problem.
01:33:26.000In other words, a political problem, which I think indicates kind of where he is when it comes to the issue of race.
01:33:32.000And I would say that's the same thing when it comes to the issue of other things regarding people.
01:33:35.000And for him to be able to say those things about Trump is really the pot calling the kettle black.
01:33:41.000This whole stuff with racism and bringing up race is really projection by Democratic political leaders, projecting their views and pointing fingers at Trump because they have nothing else that they can say because they can't defend the policy of Joe Biden.
01:34:10.000And so when he talks like that it really makes me I'm upset at myself for appointing that guy to the Illinois Human Rights Commission.
01:34:16.000I thought he was a better guy and a different guy, but unfortunately, he's just another, well, politician who got lucky in life and inherited a couple of billion dollars from his successful family.
01:34:27.000Yeah, well, we'll forgive you by all of your surrogacy work for President Trump.
01:34:32.000Before we cut to the debate, we'll play this clip of President Trump talking about Governor Pritzker just because it's funny and it goes to your point about all the fried chicken, right?
01:35:26.000The American Dream still is available for people.
01:35:29.000This election, what's at stake is the continuation of the American Dream, making it better and more available to more people, protecting the rule of law and the Constitution, and actually lifting up people who've been left behind and kept down.
01:35:56.000And I would say to my fellow Democrats, put aside your party affiliation and put first your love of country and do the right thing and help us make America save America and make America great again.
01:36:08.000Well, Governor, thank you so much for coming on Luma Unleashed tonight.
01:36:23.000Well, I really appreciate you taking time to come on tonight, and you're welcome to come on Loomer Unleashed anytime you want to come on and spread a message and recruit more Democrats.
01:42:49.000We made sure we had a situation where we now, we brought down, which is a major issue for many people, to $15 for an insulin shot, as opposed to $400.
01:43:03.000No senior has to pay more than $200 for all the drugs they conclude beginning next year.
01:43:10.000And we're going to make that available to everybody, to all Americans.
01:43:14.000So we're working to bring down the price around the kitchen table, and that's what we're going to get done.
01:45:28.000You want to impose a 10% tariff on all goods coming into the U.S.
01:45:32.000How will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher?
01:45:35.000Not going to drive them higher, it's just going to cost countries that have been ripping us off for years like China, and many others in all fairness to China.
01:45:42.000It's going to just force them to pay us a lot of money, reduce our deficit tremendously, and give us a lot of power for other things.
01:45:49.000But he made a statement, the only thing he was right about is I gave you the largest tax cut in history.
01:45:55.000I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history.
01:48:53.000The damage he's done to our country, and I'd love to ask him, and will, why he allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails, and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country.
01:49:06.000President Trump, we will get to immigration later in this block.
01:49:09.000President Biden, I want to give you an opportunity to respond to this question on national debt.
01:49:14.000He had the largest national debt of any president in a four-year period, number one.
01:49:18.000Number two, he got a $2 trillion tax cut and benefited the very wealthy.
01:49:23.000What I'm going to do is fix the tax system.
01:49:25.000For example, we have a thousand trillionaires in America.
01:49:47.000We'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do, child care, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person I didn't know that we had over a thousand trillionaires in America, you guys.
01:51:17.000This is the first presidential election since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.
01:51:22.000This morning, the court ruled on yet another abortion case, temporarily allowing emergency abortions to continue in Idaho, despite that state's restrictive ban.
01:51:33.000Former President Trump, You take credit for the decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, which returned the issue of abortion to the states.
01:51:42.000However, the federal government still plays a role in whether or not women have access to abortion pills.
01:51:50.000They're used in about two-thirds of all abortions.
01:51:54.000As president, would you block abortion medication?
01:51:58.000First of all, the Supreme Court just approved the abortion bill, and I agree with their decision to have done that, and I will not block it.
01:52:06.000And if you look at this whole question that you're asking, complex but not really complex.
01:52:12.000Fifty-one years ago, you had Roe's trade, and everybody wanted to get it back to the states.
01:53:34.000The problem they have is they're radical, because they will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth.
01:53:41.000After birth, if you look at the former governor of Virginia, he was willing to do this.
01:53:46.000He said, we'll put the baby aside and we'll determine what we do with the baby, meaning we'll kill the baby.
01:53:52.000What happened is we brought it back to the states, and the country is now coming together on this issue.
01:54:14.000And this is the guy who says the state should be able to have it.
01:54:16.000We're in a state where in six weeks, you don't even know whether you're pregnant or not, but you cannot see a doctor and have him decide on what your circumstances are, whether you need help.
01:54:27.000The idea that states are able to, a little like saying, we're going to turn civil rights back to the states.
01:55:35.000But they're voting, and it's bringing it back to the vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted, including the founders, if they knew about this issue.
01:56:10.000Seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion.
01:56:18.000Do you support any legal limits on how late a woman... Joe Biden literally just said more people get raped by their brothers and sisters than by illegal aliens.
01:56:27.000First time is between a woman and a doctor.
01:56:54.000And if I'm elected, I'm going to restore Roe v. Wade.
01:56:56.000So that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth, because some states Democrat-run ticket after birth Again, the governor, former governor of Virginia, put the baby down, then we decide what to do with it.
01:57:11.000So he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month.
01:58:07.000If the MAGA Republicans, he gets elected, and the MAGA Republicans control the Congress, and they pass a universal ban on abortion, period.
01:58:26.000Let's turn now to the issue of immigration and border security.
01:58:28.000President Biden, a record number of migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on your watch, overwhelming border states and overburdening cities such as New York and Chicago, and in some cases causing real safety and security concerns.
01:58:42.000Given that, why should voters trust you to solve this crisis?
01:58:45.000Because we worked very hard to get a bipartisan agreement that not only changed all of that, it made sure that we are in a situation where you had no circumstance where they could come across the border with the number of border police there are now.
01:58:59.000We significantly increased the number of asylum officers.
01:59:03.000By the way, the Border Patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position.
01:59:07.000In addition to that, we find ourselves in a situation where, when he was president, he was separating babies from their mothers, putting them in cages, making sure the families were separated.
02:00:27.000In that final couple of months of my presidency, we had, according to Border Patrol, who is great, and by the way, who endorsed me for president, but I won't say that, but they endorsed me for president.
02:01:21.000President Trump, staying on the topic of immigration, you've said that you're going to carry out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation in American history, unquote.
02:01:29.000Does that mean that you will deport every undocumented immigrant in America, including those who have jobs, including those whose spouses are citizens, and including those who have lived here for decades?
02:02:08.000They're killing our people in New York, in California, in every state in the Union.
02:02:17.000And because of his ridiculous, insane and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen.
02:04:09.000We're also in a situation where we have great respect for veterans.
02:04:12.000My friend, my friend, I'm in Iraq, leaving one of the next one of those burn pits, came back with stage four glioblastoma.
02:04:18.000I was recently in France for D-Day, and I spoke to all about those heroes that died.
02:04:26.000I went to the World War II cemetery, World War I cemetery he refused to go to.
02:04:31.000He was standing with his four-star general and he told me, he said, I don't want to go in there because they're a bunch of losers and suckers.
02:04:37.000My son was not a loser, was not a sucker.
02:05:03.000I'm so glad this came up and he brought it up.
02:05:06.000There's nobody that's taken better care of our soldiers than I have to think that I would infer generals and others say suckers and losers.
02:06:04.000The only sacred obligation we have as a country is to care for our veterans when they come home and their families and equip them when they go to war.
02:07:27.000It was such a horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country that when Putin watched that and he saw the incompetence that he should he should have fired those generals like I fired the one that you mentioned.
02:07:40.000And so he's got no love lost, but he should have fired those generals.
02:07:43.000No general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, Afghanistan, where we left billions of beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were obliterated.
02:07:57.000And by the way, we left people behind, too.
02:09:01.000He didn't do a thing when the attack took place, number one.
02:09:05.000Number two, We got over 100,000 Americans and others out of Afghanistan during that airlift.
02:09:13.000Number three, we found ourselves in a situation where, if you take a look at what Trump did in Ukraine, he's, this guy, do whatever you want.
02:11:18.000What do you think happens to those NATO countries?
02:11:20.000And so if you want a war, you ought to find out what he's going to do, because if in fact he does what he says and walks away... By the way, all that money we give Ukraine, the weapons we make here in the United States, we give them the weapons, not the money at this point.
02:11:35.000And our NATO allies have produced as much as we have.
02:11:46.000In October, ISIS attacked Israel, killing more than a thousand people and taking hundreds of hostages.
02:11:53.000Among those held and thought to still be alive are five Americans.
02:11:57.000Israel's response has killed thousands of Palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis.
02:12:03.000President Biden, you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict, but so far Hamas has not released the remaining hostages and Israel is continuing its military offensive in Gaza.
02:12:17.000So what additional leverage will you use to get Hamas and Israel to end the war?
02:12:24.000Number one, everyone from the United Nations Security Council straight through the G7 to the Israelis and Netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan I put forward.
02:13:10.000We're providing Israel with all By the way, I'm against Iran when they had a full-blown intercontinental ballistic missile attack on Israel.
02:15:10.000Former President Trump, I want to ask you about January 6, 2021.
02:15:15.000After you rallied your supporters that day, some of them stormed the Capitol to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes.
02:15:23.000As president, you swore an oath to, quote, preserve, protect and defend, unquote, the Constitution.
02:15:28.000What do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction on January 6th and worry that you'll do it again?
02:15:35.000Well, I don't think too many believe that and let me tell you about January 6th.
02:15:40.000On January 6th, we had a great border.
02:16:02.000What happened to the United States' reputation under this man's leadership is horrible, including weaponization, which I'm sure at some point you'll be talking about, where he goes after his political opponent because he can't beat him fair and square.
02:16:18.000My question was, what do you say to those voters who believe that you violated your constitutional oath through your actions in action on January 6, 2021, and worry that you'll do it again?
02:16:33.000And Nancy Pelosi, if you just watched the news from two days ago, on tape to her daughter, who is a documentary filmmaker, they say, Is he falling asleep?
02:17:20.000And she now admits that she turned it down.
02:17:23.000And it was the same day she was, I don't know, he can't be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar.
02:17:29.000She said, I take full responsibility for January 6th.
02:17:36.000Look, he encouraged those folks to go up on Capitol Hill, number one.
02:17:40.000I sat in the dining room off the Oval Office.
02:17:42.000He sat there for three days, being begged by his vice president and a number of his colleagues on the Republican side as well to do something, to call for a stop, to end it.
02:17:55.000Instead, he talked about these people being patriots and great patrons of America.
02:18:00.000In fact, he says he'll now forgive them for what they've done.
02:19:21.000The unselect committee, which is basically two horrible Republicans that are all gone now and out of office, and Democrats, all Democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information they found because they found out we were right.
02:19:50.000The fact of the matter is, what he's telling you is simply not true.
02:19:55.000The fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up on Capitol Hill.
02:20:01.000And all those people, every one of those who were convicted, deserves to be convicted.
02:20:06.000The idea that they didn't kill somebody, just went in and broke down doors, broke the windows, occupied offices, turned over desks, Turn them over to statutes?
02:20:16.000The idea that those people are patriots?
02:20:42.000I'm going to give you a minute, President Trump, for a follow-up question I have.
02:20:48.000After a jury convicted you of 34 felonies last month, you said if re-elected you would, quote, have every right to go after, unquote, your political opponents.
02:20:56.000You just talked about members of the Select Committee on January 6th going to jail.
02:21:01.000Your main political opponent is standing on stage with you tonight.
02:21:04.000Can you clarify exactly what it means about you feeling you have every right to go after your political opponents?
02:21:09.000Well, I said my retribution is going to be success.
02:21:12.000We're going to make this country successful again, because right now it's a failing nation.
02:21:16.000My retribution is going to be success.
02:21:18.000But when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level.
02:21:23.000His son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times.
02:21:26.000He should have been convicted before, but his Justice Department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things.
02:21:33.000But he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office.
02:21:36.000Joe could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he's done.
02:21:41.000All of the death cause at the border, telling the Ukrainian people that we're going to want a billion dollars or you change the prosecutor.
02:21:49.000Otherwise, you're not getting a billion dollars.
02:22:32.000No president's ever spoken like that before.
02:22:35.000No, President, in our history we've spoken like that before.
02:22:37.000Number three, the crimes that you are still charged with, and think of all the civil penalties you have.
02:22:43.000How many billions of dollars do you owe in civil penalties for molesting a woman in public, for doing a whole range of things, of having sex with a porn star on the night while your wife was pregnant?
02:24:05.000President Biden, you have said, quote, Donald Trump and his MAGA Republicans are determined to destroy American democracy.
02:24:12.000Do you believe that the tens of millions of Americans who are likely to vote for President Trump will be voting against American democracy?
02:24:20.000The more they know about what he's done, yes.
02:24:23.000The more they know about what he's done.
02:24:26.000He's got a lot of cases down the road coming out.
02:24:29.000He's got a whole range of issues he has to face.
02:24:33.000I don't know what the juries will do, but I do know he has a real problem.
02:24:37.000And so the fact that, could you ever think you'd hear any president say that I'm going to seek retribution?
02:24:43.000You ever hear any president say that I thought Hitler had some good ideas?
02:24:47.000What got me involved to run in the first place after my son had died, I decided in Iraq, because of Iraq, I said I wasn't going to run again.
02:24:54.000until I saw torches and singing the same anti-Semitic bio they sang back in Germany.
02:25:06.000And the young woman spoke to the mother, and they asked him, they said, what do you think of those people, the people who got killed, the one who tried to stop it, and the ones he said, I think.
02:26:38.000All you have to do is listen to what was said at the time.
02:26:41.000And the idea that somehow that's the only reason I ran.
02:26:44.000I ran because I was worried a guy like this guy could get elected.
02:26:47.000If he thought they were good people coming out of that forest, carrying those woods, carrying those torches, then he didn't deserve to be president.
02:26:56.000Didn't deserve to be president at all.
02:26:57.000And the idea that he's talking about all this being fabricated.
02:28:07.000So we need Joe Biden to fall down, and we need him to claim that he drives an 18-wheeler, or to use the term cheap fake, or he needs to touch his nose and can't find his way off stage.
02:28:21.000So we could get a last minute bingo when he's exiting the stage if he can't figure it out.
02:28:37.000We got some interesting mic drop moments.
02:28:48.000So when Joe Biden called President Trump a convicted felon and said he was on stage with a convicted felon, President Trump said, well, you know, your son is a convicted felon and you could be a convicted felon by the time you get out of office.
02:30:11.000But, you know, when you take a lot of Xanax or you take a lot of Adderall or, you know, any type of stimulant, you get something called cotton mouth, okay?
02:30:20.000I don't know if any of you have ever had cotton mouth.
02:30:22.000You can get it from smoking a lot of weed, too, okay?
02:30:26.000And I'm not speaking from personal experience.
02:30:28.000I'm just saying that I have been told that if you do this... Sources say.
02:30:37.000But I've been told that people who use a lot of Adderall or people who even take a lot of Xanax or people who smoke a lot of weed They have this thing called cotton mouth where you feel like your mouth is really dry and you start like slurring your words and not able to really speak properly.
02:30:53.000That's what's going on with Joe Biden.
02:30:54.000I'm not saying that he smokes a lot of weed, but I wouldn't be surprised if they pumped him with a bunch of Adderall.
02:31:00.000Really, a lot of medications have that side effect.
02:31:05.000But one of the most common side effects of a lot of medications, especially dementia medications, is a dry mouth.
02:31:13.000Like, you feel like you have to constantly cough and you've got a dry mouth.
02:31:17.000So, we're coming back to the debate now.
02:31:19.000Let's talk about persistent challenges you both faced in your first terms and you'd certainly face again in a second term.
02:31:27.000President Biden, while black unemployment dropped to a record low under your presidency, black families still far less than white families.
02:31:36.000Black mothers are still three times more likely to die for pregnancy-related causes, and black Americans are imprisoned at five times the rate of white Americans.
02:31:48.000What do you say to black voters who are disappointed that you haven't made more progress?
02:31:52.000Technology made a lot of progress, number one.
02:31:55.000The fact of the matter is there are more small black businesses that have been started than any time in history.
02:32:00.000Number two, the wages of black, black unemployment is the lowest level it's been in a long, long time.
02:32:07.000Number three, we're trying to provide housing for black Americans and dealing with the segregation that exists among these corporate, these corporate races that collude to keep up people out of their houses.
02:32:22.000In addition to that, we find that the impact of the choice that black families have to make relative to child care When we did the first major piece of legislation in the past, I was able to reduce black child care costs.
02:32:45.000We've got to make sure we provide for child care costs.
02:32:47.000We've got to make sure because when you provide that child care protections, you increase economic growth because more people can be in the job market.
02:32:57.000So there's more to be done, considerably more to be done.
02:33:00.000But we've done a great deal so far and I'm not letting up and they know it.
02:33:07.000What do you say to black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far?
02:33:11.000I say I don't blame them for being disappointed.
02:33:13.000Inflation is still hurting them badly.
02:33:16.000For example, I provided for the idea that any black family first-time homebuyer should get a $10,000 tax credit to be able to buy their first home so they can get started.
02:33:27.000I made sure that we're in a situation where all those black families and those black individuals who provided had to take out student loans that were ballooning, that if they were engaged in nursing, and anything having to do with volunteerism, if they paid their bills for 10 years on their student debt, all the rest was forgiven after 10 years.
02:34:34.000As sure as you're sitting there, the fact is that his big kill on the black people is the millions of people that he's allowed to come in through the border.
02:34:44.000They're taking black jobs now, and it could be 18, it could be 19, and even 20 million people.
02:34:51.000They're taking black jobs, and they're taking Hispanic jobs, and you haven't seen it yet, but you're gonna see something that's gonna be the worst in our history.
02:35:38.000And they're going to try again if they win.
02:35:40.000You find ourselves in a position where the idea that we're not doing it, I put more, we put more police on the street than any administration has.
02:36:06.000Another persistent challenge is the climate crisis.
02:36:09.0002023 is the hottest year in recorded history, and communities across the country are confronting the devastating effects of extreme heat, intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes, and rising sea levels.
02:36:23.000Former President Trump, you've vowed to end your opponents' climate initiatives, but will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis?
02:36:47.000And what he's done to the black population is horrible, including the fact that for 10 years he called them super predators.
02:36:53.000We can't, in the 1990s, we can't forget that.
02:36:55.000Super Predators was his name, and he called it to them, and they've taken great offense at it, and now they see it happening.
02:37:02.000But when they see what I did for criminal justice reform and for the historically black colleges and universities, where I funded them and got them all funded and the Opportunity Zones with with Tim, as you know, Tim Scott was incredible.
02:37:35.000I read this morning where ever the best numbers he's lost.
02:37:42.000Because he's done a horrible job for black people.
02:37:44.000He's also done a horrible job for Hispanics.
02:37:47.000But when you see these millions of people pouring into our country and they're going to take the jobs and it's already started and you haven't seen anything yet.
02:38:45.000We find ourselves, and by the way, black colleges, I came up with $15 billion for HBCUs, Historic Black Universities and Colleges, because they don't have those.
02:38:55.000They don't have the kind of contributors that they have to build these laboratories and the like.
02:39:00.000Any black student is capable in college of doing what any white student can do.
02:39:04.000They just have the money, but now they'll be able to get those jobs in high tech.
02:39:08.000We're in a situation where the idea that he is claiming to have done something that had the cleanest water, the cleanest water, He hadn't done a damn thing with the environment.
02:39:20.000He, out of the Paris Peace Accord, Climate Accord, I immediately joined it.
02:39:25.000Because if we reheat to 1.5 degrees Celsius at any one point, there's no way back.
02:39:30.000The only existential threat to humanity is climate change.
02:39:33.000And he didn't do a damn thing about it.
02:40:51.000By 2035, we will have cut pollution in half.
02:40:54.000We have made significant progress and we're continuing to make progress.
02:40:58.000We set up a climate corps where thousands of young people will learn how to deal with climate, just like the Peace Corps.
02:41:05.000We're moving in directions that are going to significantly change the elements of cause of pollution.
02:41:11.000But the idea that he claims that he has the biggest heart up here and he's really concerned about pollution and about climate, I've not seen any indication of that.
02:41:22.000And by the way, with regard to prescription drugs, one company reduced the price to $35, which I was calling for, voluntarily.
02:41:34.000I made sure every company in the world, every pharmaceutical company, cannot have to pay me.
02:41:39.000And by the way, So every day, millions of Americans struggle just to make ends meet.
02:41:45.000For many older Americans, Social Security provides a critical lifeline.
02:41:49.000President Biden, if nothing is done to Social Security, seniors will see their benefits cut in just over 10 years.
02:41:57.000Will you name tonight one specific step that you're willing to take to keep Social Security solvent?
02:42:02.000Yes, make the very wealthy pay their fair share.
02:42:06.000Right now, everybody making under $170,000 pays 6% of their income, of their paycheck, every single time they get a paycheck from the time the first one they get when they're 18 years old.
02:42:18.000The idea that they're going to... Everybody, they pay... The millionaires pay 1%, 1%.
02:42:27.000So no one after... I've not raised the cost of Social Security for...
02:42:49.000Well, no, that one enough will keep it solvent.
02:42:51.000But the biggest thing I'll do if we defeat this man, because he wants to get rid of Social Security.
02:42:57.000He thinks there's plenty to cut in Social Security.
02:42:59.000He's going to cut Social Security and Medicare both times.
02:43:06.000The House Republican Caucus that he supports is in fact wanting to cut it as well.
02:43:12.000The idea that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous.
02:43:17.000And by the way, the American public has greater health care coverage today than ever before.
02:43:24.000And on the ACA, as I said, you're in a circumstance where 400,000 people, I mean 40 million people, would not have insurance because they have a preexisting condition.
02:43:34.000Only thing that allows them to have that insurance is the fact that they, in fact, are part of the ACA.
02:43:41.000And by the way, the other thing is, we're in a situation where I talk about education for black communities.
02:43:46.000I've raised the number, the amount of money for Pell Grants, another $8,000.
02:43:51.000Anybody making under $70,000 a year is going to be able to get $15,000 towards their tuition.
02:43:59.000He just doesn't know what he's talking about.
02:44:35.000But Social Security, he's destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and they're putting them onto Social Security.
02:44:43.000They're putting them onto Medicare, Medicaid.
02:44:45.000They're putting In the place of our citizens that they're doing.
02:44:52.000Veterans are living in the street and these people are living in luxury hotels.
02:44:57.000He doesn't know what he's doing and it's really coming back.
02:45:00.000I've never seen such anger in our country.
02:45:05.000The idea that veterans are not being taken care of, I told you before.
02:45:09.000By the way, when I said suckers and losers, he said he acknowledged after that he fired that general.
02:45:15.000That general fired because he's the one that acknowledged that that's what he said.
02:45:19.000He was the one standing with Trump when he said it, number one.
02:45:22.000Number two, that we're going to be in a situation where millions and millions, the way he talks about it, illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs.
02:45:34.000There's a reason why we have the fastest growing economy in the world, the reason why we have the most successful economy in the world.
02:45:40.000We're doing better than any other nation in the world.
02:45:43.000And by the way, those 15 Nobel laureates he talked about being phony, those 15 Nobel laureates, economists, they all said that if Trump is reelected, we're elected to have a recession and inflation is going to increase and go up.
02:45:57.000And by the way, worst president in history, 159 presidential scholars voted him the worst president in the history of the United States of America.
02:46:06.000Let's turn to the cost of child care, which many American families struggle to afford.
02:46:10.000President Trump, both you and President Biden have tried to address this issue, but the average cost of child care in this country has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child.
02:46:20.000For many families, the cost of child care for two children is more than their rent.
02:46:25.000In your second term, what would you do to make child care more affordable?
02:46:30.000Just to go back, the general got fired because he was no good.
02:46:34.000And if he said that, that's why he made it up.
02:46:36.000But we have 19 people that said I didn't say it, and they're very highly respected, much more so than him.
02:46:42.000The other thing is, he doesn't fire people.
02:47:06.000He should have fired every military man that was involved with that Afghan, the Afghanistan horror show, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country.
02:50:30.000Look, the fact of the matter is that he's dead wrong about, he's increased the tariff, he's increased, he will increase the taxes on middle class people.
02:50:40.000I said I'd never raise a tax on anybody making less than $400,000.
02:50:45.000But this tariff, this 10% tariff, everything coming into the country, you know what the economists say?
02:50:49.000That's going to cost the average American $2,500 a year more because they're going to have to pay the difference in food and all the things that are very important.
02:50:59.000Number two, he's in a situation where he talks about how he has not raised he somehow helped the middle class.
02:51:09.000Middle class have been devastated by you.
02:51:09.000The middle class has been devastated by you.
02:51:11.000Now you want a new tax cut of $5 trillion over the next 10 years, which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country.
02:51:11.000Now you want a new tax cut of $5 trillion over the next 10 years, which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country.
02:51:18.000You have the largest deficit of any president in American history, number one.
02:51:18.000You have the largest deficit of any president in American history, number one.
02:51:22.000Number two, you have not, in fact, made any contact, any progress with China.
02:51:29.000We are the lowest trade deficit with China since 2010.
02:51:53.000Former President Trump, despite the efforts that both of you have made, more than 100,000 Americans are dying from overdoses every year, primarily from fentanyl and other opioids.
02:52:02.000What will you do to help Americans right now in the throes of addiction who are struggling to get the treatment they need?
02:53:02.000So, President Trump, you have 67 seconds left.
02:53:04.000The question was, what are you going to do to help Americans in the throes of addiction right now who are struggling to get the treatment they need?
02:53:11.000Jake, we were doing very well at addiction until the COVID came along.
02:53:15.000The two and a half, almost three years, like nobody's ever had before, any country, in every way.
02:55:06.000President Trump, and again, the question is about Americans in the throes of addiction right now, struggling to get the treatment they need.
02:55:13.000This, because this does pertain to it.
02:56:47.000Look how I've turned around the horrible situation he left me.
02:56:51.000As I said, 15 million new jobs, 800,000 manufacturing jobs, more investment in America, over millions, billions of dollars in private investment in enterprises that we are growing.
02:57:03.000We, by the way, we brought off a lot of people, the whole idea of computer chips.
02:57:28.000Those fabs they call to build these ships, those fabs pay over $100,000.
02:57:33.000You don't need a college degree for them.
02:57:36.000And there's billions, about $40 billion already being invested and being built right now in the United States, creating significant jobs for Americans from all over the world.
02:57:47.000President Biden, you have 40 seconds left.
02:57:52.000The idea that somehow we are this failing country, We're the envy of the world.
02:58:01.000Maybe a single major country president wouldn't trade places with the United States of America for all our problems and all our opportunities.
02:58:09.000We're the most progressive country in the world in getting things done.
02:58:13.000We're the strongest country in the world.
02:58:14.000We're a country in the world who keeps our word and everybody trusts us, all of our allies and those who he coddles up to from Kim Jong-un, who he sends love letters to and Putin, etc.
02:58:27.000They don't want to screw around with us.
03:00:33.000To a specific concern that voters have about you.
03:00:37.000Will you pledge tonight that once all legal challenges have been exhausted, that you will accept the results of this election regardless of who wins, and you will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable?
03:00:53.000Well, I shouldn't have to say that, but of course I believe that.
03:00:58.000And if you would see my statements that I made on Twitter at the time, and also my statement that I made in the Rose Garden, you would say it's one of the strongest statements you've ever seen.
03:01:06.000In addition to the speech I made in front of, I believe, the largest crowd I've ever spoken to.
03:01:11.000And I will tell you, nobody ever talks about that.
03:01:13.000They talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the Capitol.
03:01:18.000And in many cases were ushered in by the police.
03:01:20.000And as Nancy Pelosi said, it was her responsibility, not mine.
03:01:32.000I wish he was a great president because I wouldn't be here right now.
03:01:36.000I'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself.
03:01:40.000I wouldn't be under indictment because I wouldn't have been his political opponent, you know, opponent, because he indicted me because I was his opponent.
03:03:32.000President Trump, as I come back to you for a follow-up, the question was, will you accept the results of this election, regardless of who wins?
03:03:42.000Just to finish what he said, if I might.
03:03:45.000Russia, they took a lot of land from Bush.
03:03:49.000They took a lot of land from Obama and Biden.
03:03:52.000They took no land, nothing, from Trump.
03:04:17.000And, you know, you asked me a question before, would you do this with — he's got us in such a bad position right now with Ukraine and Russia.
03:04:24.000Because Ukraine's not winning that war.
03:04:27.000He said, I will never settle until such time.
03:06:48.000The Border Patrol is literally fact-checking him in real time.
03:06:51.000You have New York Times columnist and ultra-Democrat Nicholas Kristof who, you know, is a big-time Obama, big-time Biden person, saying, I wish Biden would reflect on this debate performance and then announce his decision to withdraw from the race, throwing the choice of the Democrat nominee to the convention.
03:07:11.000Just like I've been telling you guys for months, have I not, have I not, have I not been telling you that this was going to happen?
03:07:18.000That the rules of the DMC and the convention were going to allow the DMC to bypass the primary process and install the person that they want as their candidate at the convention in August.
03:07:29.000Why do you think they haven't announced for Joe Biden to be on the ballot in Ohio?
03:08:38.000They had Gavin Newsom there talking to Sean Hannity.
03:08:41.000Remember they had Gavin Newsom debate Ron DeSantis when everybody thought, well, I didn't think so, but all the rhinos in DC thought, That Ron DeSantis was going to be the nominee.
03:08:54.000You're going to see tomorrow, there's going to be editorials.
03:08:56.000You're going to see the Wall Street Journal.
03:08:57.000I guarantee you, you're going to see the New York Times, the op-ed, Joe Biden needs to step down or for the sake of the election, you know, Joe Biden needs to step aside.
03:09:06.000And then you're going to see the White House come around and maybe announce that Joe Biden has Alzheimer's or You know, he's got some kind of health issue.
03:09:14.000They're going to try to make it a sob story and say, oh, you know, look at everybody making fun of Joe Biden.
03:09:20.000And then Gavin Newsom's going to say, well, I didn't technically lie when I said that I wasn't going to run for president because I was installed.
03:09:28.000There's a big difference between running for president and then being installed as the candidate.
03:09:32.000So pay attention, pay attention to the semantics, because the entire Democrat candidate nomination process at their convention is basically right now a game of semantics.
03:09:45.000They know that they can say, well, we weren't lying to you when we said that we weren't going to run for president.
03:09:50.000We were installed because the DNC rules allow for any candidate to be installed as the nominee if the executive leadership of the DNC agrees upon any candidate.
03:10:16.000We've made significant progress from the debacle that was left by President Trump in his last term.
03:10:27.000We find ourselves in a situation where, Number one, we have to make sure that we have a fair tax system.
03:10:35.000I ask anyone out there in the audience, or anyone out watching this debate, do you think the tax system is fair?
03:10:41.000The fact is that, I said, nobody making under $400,000 had a single penny increase in their taxes, and will not.
03:10:49.000And if I'm re-elected, that will be the case again.
03:10:51.000But, this guy has increased your taxes because of the deficit.
03:10:56.000Number one, he's increased inflation because of the debacle he left after the way he handled the pandemic.
03:11:02.000And he finds himself in a position where he now wants to tax you more.
03:11:07.000Everything comes in the United States of America.
03:11:10.000They did when, for example, he wants to get rid of the ability of Medicare, for the ability for us to be able to negotiate drug prices with the big pharma companies.
03:11:58.000We have I'm going to make sure that we have child care.
03:12:01.000We're going to significantly increase the credit people have for child care.
03:12:05.000I'm going to make sure we do something about what we're doing on lead pipes and all the things that are causing health problems for people across the country.
03:12:14.000We're going to continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break.
03:13:56.000They've been trying to get it for 42 years.
03:13:59.000But you know what we did for the military was incredible choice for our soldiers, where our soldiers Instead of waiting for three months to see a doctor, can go out and get themselves fixed up and readied up and take care of themselves and they're living the highest approval rating in the history of the VA.
03:14:17.000So all of these things, we're not failing anymore.
03:15:45.000Anderson, this was a game-changing debate in the sense that right now, as we see, there's a deep, a wide, and a very aggressive panic in the Democratic Party.
03:16:03.000And they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people down the party in the ticket.
03:16:10.000And they're having conversations about what they should do about it.
03:16:13.000Some of those conversations include, should we go to the White House and ask the President to step aside?
03:16:18.000Others are, other of the conversations are about, should prominent Democrats go public?
03:16:24.000Because they feel this debate was so terrible.
03:16:26.000They do say, in moments in the debate later, the president got better and got his footing, but then at the end even his closing statement was a little halting.
03:16:34.000The contrast between the two candidates.
03:16:59.000But I can tell you, it started minutes in.
03:17:01.000It started with the first couple of answers.
03:17:03.000And it has continued throughout the night from a, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, to what do we do about this?
03:17:08.000And it involves very senior people in the Democratic Party, including elected officials, saying, we have a problem.
03:17:13.000And just to co-sign what John is saying, I mean, the panic that I am hearing from Democrats is not like anything that I have heard in this campaign so far.
03:17:21.000And a lot of it has to do with, first of all, there was a deep frustration about Trump's lies.
03:17:28.000But the problem for Biden was that Trump was able to take Wow.
03:17:31.000sometimes incredible falsehoods and turn them into some kind of argument, whereas Biden's answers were in a lot of cases not coherent, deeply problematic, that he was not able to take straightforward answers that he was not able to take straightforward answers and answer them to the American public.
03:17:50.000And then also at some points bringing things up that teed up Trump attacks.
03:17:55.000So there is a real concern here tonight that there's been some real damage done that cannot be undone.
03:18:03.000Biden solidified the perception among voters, but especially among his base.
03:18:10.000They were hoping that tonight would be a game changer.
03:18:13.000They are now seeing a president who is in the White House who they do not necessarily believe can do this for another four years.
03:18:25.000Look, I can't argue with either of them about how Democratic leaders are reacting to this poll.
03:18:35.000We said at the beginning that each person had a fundamental goal, and for Biden that goal was to appear energetic, engaged, and look like someone who is capable of serving for another four years for president.
03:18:50.000I actually think He scored a bunch of points.
03:18:52.000I think if you just judge this on sort of policy stuff, he did score a bunch of points on issues like abortion, for example, on some of the economic issues.
03:19:04.000But there is a feeling, I think there was a sense of shock, actually, at how he came out at the beginning of this debate, how his voice Uh, you know, he seemed a little disoriented.
03:19:18.000He did get stronger as the debate went on, but by that time, I think the panic had set in, and I think you're going to hear discussions that I don't know will lead to anything, but, you know.
03:19:31.000There are going to be discussions about whether he should continue.
03:19:35.000And I think part of it is Donald Trump did not meet his mission either.
03:19:39.000He could not resist the temptation to be nasty, to prevaricate about a whole bunch of things, about his own record, about Biden's record, and to seem petty and small at times.
03:20:23.000He gave an answer, a three, he couldn't even give a coherent answer on the biggest issue for Democrats tonight.
03:20:30.000I've heard from leading Democrats across the United States, elected governors, congressmen, who are texting me and saying, "I'm worried I'm gonna lose if Joe Biden's at the top of the ticket." Bob Casey, I promise you tonight in the state of Pennsylvania, is thrown up in his mouth because he knows that if he's got to stand next to Joe Biden, he's going down in Pennsylvania.
03:20:52.000If he's on the ticket, I don't know how it's going to work.
03:20:55.000Yeah, look, it was a really disappointing debate performance from Joe Biden.
03:20:58.000I don't think there's any other way to slice it.
03:21:00.000His biggest issue that he had to prove to the American people was that he had the energy, he had the stamina, and he didn't do that.
03:21:06.000And so I think that is of concern, and I think for a lot of Democrats that's very disappointing.
03:21:12.000I will say, Donald Trump also had some really rough moments in this debate.
03:21:16.000And, you know, talking to the Biden campaign, they say, you know, their dials started really moving away from Trump as he was increasing his personal attacks on Biden.
03:21:23.000So I think there was a lot about his kind of character and the...
03:21:31.000All right, we are going to cut to MSDNC now as well.
03:21:34.000So you just got to see CNN having their meltdown, and we are now going to spend our post-debate coverage time together.
03:21:41.000We have a double bingo, so congratulations if you were following along with the Trump campaign bingo card tonight.
03:22:30.000The panic is setting in because they all know that they decided to literally steal an election and put an Alzheimer's patient in the White House and America has woken up.
03:22:43.000Lawrence, I also want to get your response.
03:22:45.000I think one of the interesting things that Alex said there was that some of the poor coherence and poor answers from Donald Trump are being viewed as standard Trump and therefore not newsworthy, while the performance from President Biden is being viewed as newsworthy because it came in below expectations.
03:23:06.000Yeah, in any sort of normal universe, you would think the candidate... I didn't have sex with a porn star.
03:23:24.000...concentrating on is optics, that thing we call optics, and in this case also audio because of the aging voice of Joe Biden.
03:23:32.000But the question is that we don't know the answer to this.
03:23:35.000I mean, my God, he and Trump are practically the same age.
03:23:38.000...thinking they're for Biden or they're for Trump or thinking whatever they were thinking. What in this debate of substance that was true, if anything, moved their vote?
03:23:51.000So if you really wanted to look at it in terms of what is it supposed to be, it's supposed to be an illuminating forum in which you learn something about a candidate that you didn't know before that is true.
03:24:02.000Not that you learn a lie from the candidate.
03:24:08.000But given that the optics is the way the game is played, what we don't yet know, and we'll know in polling a week from now or so, is what was the effect of all of this?
03:24:19.000What was the effect of the guy who said, you know, I did not have sex with the porn star?
03:24:24.000What was the effect of the convicted criminal candidate pointing to the other candidate and calling him a criminal?
03:24:32.000What is the effect of all of that back and forth?
03:24:35.000And I think we're guessing about what the effect is of the realization that Joe Biden is actually as old as his birth certificate says he is.
03:24:43.000His voice is that old, too, but he's 10 years younger than Warren Buffett.
03:24:52.000Decisions and what was not shown to me in a way that was true Has made bad decisions in the presidency.
03:25:02.000I don't see the set of bad decisions, and what was done in the Biden presidency was certainly underdeveloped in a debate where you never heard the word infrastructure, for example.
03:25:12.000Like, it was underdeveloped as this went on, and that has a lot to do with the nature of the rules of these debates.
03:25:19.000I think what you just put your finger on, to me, is sort of the whole issue around where we find ourselves.
03:25:24.000The job of the president is making decisions.
03:25:27.000The job of a president is to communicate.
03:26:07.000Joe Biden should be the person communicating that.
03:26:10.000Joe Biden is not good at communicating his own record.
03:26:13.000And in the context of a campaign right now, his job, number one, is communicating.
03:26:18.000Oh my god, I'm having so much fun tonight.
03:26:20.000So that, you know, and I don't disagree with you.
03:26:22.000I mean, I think you're right about the decision making.
03:26:24.000But I think the reason that there is all this, you know, anxiety and all this stuff is because ultimately, and particularly in the television age, a lot of the presidency is communicating.
03:26:33.000But particularly when you're running for re-election, when it is the thing that is the most important thing.
03:26:38.000There's another job of the press, and this is even pre the television era.
03:26:41.000There's a reason that FDR was never shown in his wheelchair.
03:26:46.000There's a reason that John F. Kennedy pretended to be a vigorous man, but he was certainly not.
03:26:54.000And Kennedy accelerated it, and I think Reagan super-accelerated it, because he was an actor and he was a Hollywood figure.
03:27:00.000And it's only gotten more intense until we got to President Obama, who, like, became popular partly because, like, rap artists were, like, taking his speeches and turning them into, like, hit music video.
03:27:10.000Like, it's accelerated, but it was even true during the Roosevelt era.
03:27:15.000The president is an avatar for the American people.
03:27:19.000And the American people have a very high opinion of themselves.
03:27:22.000The American people think of themselves, this country invented the concept of the superhero for a reason.
03:27:28.000Because the American people think we're Captain America.
03:27:30.000They think we're strong, they think we're robust, and they want their president to look that way.
03:27:34.000If William Howard Taft had lived in an era where they saw pictures of the president, he wouldn't have been the president.
03:27:39.000Americans want the president to represent them in the world in a certain way that has vigor, that has strength.
03:28:44.000He was in much better physical shape in his last presidential campaign, and was in effect much older, because it turns out he was in the last year of his life in his last presidential campaign, which he won.
03:28:56.000But we don't have a better government Because we've turned to the most superficial components of politics to decide our candidates.
03:29:06.000If we did that in the 1940s, FDR would not have been president.
03:29:10.000And, you know, good luck with World War II.
03:29:13.000Can I say one more very quick thing, which is just the John Fetterman debate?
03:29:49.000The only thing I would add, though, is that the record of the decisions, and I love what you said at the beginning, it's such a false contest, right?
03:29:57.000Because the president is about being in a room surrounded by the smartest people, if they'll come work for you, and making decisions.
03:30:04.000The smartest people around Biden made the decision to do this.
03:30:07.000So I think there is a fair question about the performance and about Biden, who thought this was a good idea.
03:30:14.000And who thought that putting him on the right, rather than just small things like that, why would you put him on the right?
03:30:20.000Because that meant for the camera, because Biden likes to look over at the moderators and to look away.
03:30:25.000Had he been on the left, he would have been facing Donald Trump.
03:30:28.000Oh, you meant he looked like he was looking off-camera?
03:30:30.000He looked like he was looking off-camera.
03:30:31.000Every decision they made exacerbated the problem.
03:30:36.000But now that there is this problem, what does the campaign do?
03:30:49.000I worked on campaigns, and it is the job of a campaign to take the hit, right?
03:30:55.000I mean, it is the job of the campaign to take the blame.
03:30:59.000And that is a better scenario than it being the candidate.
03:31:02.000Because, you know, I mean, you can't change the candidate, but you can.
03:31:07.000This works and that conversation is live and active at the highest level of the Democratic Party.
03:31:12.000Well, let's bring in somebody who has operated at the highest levels of the Democratic Party and still has many, many contacts there and has been talking to people.
03:31:57.000The only thing that matters, and you won't really know for three or four days, is how the voters that will decide this election will react.
03:32:04.000I would also add, I have deep suspicion that Donald Trump, with swing voters, bombed as well.
03:32:13.000The biggest thing in this election is voters' concerns, and it's both swing voters and base voters with his age, and those were compounded tonight.
03:32:20.000So what the campaign's going to do is try and run ads.
03:33:21.000And if they were already concerned about Izzy Ufford, and the way I think about it is, sadly, this really pains me to say this, they're three years apart.
03:33:27.000They seemed about 30 years apart tonight.
03:33:29.000And I think that's going to be the thing that voters really wrestle with coming out of this.
03:33:34.000In terms of people in Democratic politics and people who have the kind of influence that donors have in Democratic politics, which is, you know, there's a PhD thesis to be done right there, even in the premise of this question, what kind of reactions are you hearing in terms of what they want to see, what sort of reaction they want to see for what happened tonight?
03:33:58.000Well, Rachel, I mean, there's really only two scenarios.
03:34:01.000One, which is Joe Biden decides to step down, and we have a fascinating seven-week campaign to get the supportive delegates in Chicago.
03:34:11.000The only other option is somehow to right the ship here.
03:34:16.000Now, I'm not sure whether Trump will debate again.
03:34:29.000It's the next debate now, but all you can do if you're a Democrat is ask yourself what I can do, which is, yeah, we missed an opportunity, but it's still a close race and you're running against Donald Trump.
03:34:41.000And again, I think this will come out, but, you know, I've talked to people who are doing dial groups and focus groups with swing voters, and as much as they were concerned about Biden's performance, and they were, you know, they weren't, no one was saying, I'm really excited about Donald Trump coming back to the presidency.
03:34:59.000He reconfirmed all the reasons they voted against him in 2020.
03:35:03.000And again, I look at that as a huge missed opportunity because he really provided a lot of openings, I think, for Biden or any candidate to really exacerbate that.
03:35:12.000So I think Democrats will spend 24, 48, 72 hours, you know, in some state of crisis.
03:35:20.000But then we have to find a way forward.
03:35:43.000You basically have Barack Obama's campaign manager right now who campaigned with Joe Biden saying that this was a DEFCON 1 moment for the Democrats tonight and that Joe Biden is losing.
03:35:54.000And then you just heard the words come out of his mouth that President Trump and Joe Biden are three years apart, but it seemed to me that they were 30 years apart tonight.
03:36:27.000And then David Plouffe, who I just said was Barack Obama's campaign manager who campaigned with Joe Biden as well, literally just said that this was a, quote, DEF CON one moment and that Joe Biden is losing.
03:36:38.000So what you have right now is the Obama political machine dumping Joe Biden on live television right now.
03:38:54.000They're all sitting on a bluff and John Wayne was sitting with two Apaches.
03:39:05.000These guys are nothing but these pony soldiers.
03:39:08.000Look, folks, what's going to happen over the next couple of days is they're going to be they're going to be out there fact checking all the things he said. - Yes!
03:39:23.000I can't think of one thing he said that's true.
03:40:40.000This has just been, I mean, you heard his voice and his energy there and his cadence there, a world away from what you just heard on the debate stage.
03:40:52.000That Joe Biden would have killed in that debate.
03:40:58.000But the Joe Biden that we saw on the debate stage was about 90% more soft spoken.
03:41:21.000She is lying through her teeth and she needs to be taken off of national television.
03:41:26.000I mean, honestly, she is just trying to cope right now.
03:41:29.000Now, this is the biggest cope I've ever seen in my life.
03:41:32.000Having been very confident and sort of coherent, meaning that he was speaking in sentences and saying things that could be understood, whether or not you agreed with them at the beginning of the debate.
03:41:43.000And over the course of the debate, he became much more aggressive, much less coherent and repeatedly failed to answer questions posed by the moderators, which people debating always do.
03:41:55.000But it became embarrassing when they were reiterate the question and reiterate the question and reiterate the question.
03:42:00.000And he would go back to, in many cases, points from earlier in the debate where he had come off very badly or on points that where he had lost.
03:42:09.000For example, calling members of the military who had given their lives in service to the country suckers and losers.
03:42:14.000It was Donald Trump who Cut to full screen.
03:42:47.000And he got Trumpier as the evening went on.
03:42:49.000He was relatively sort of modulated and concise and succinct in the beginning, and then he got way, way Trumpier.
03:42:56.000And to plus point also, like, It is a really important thing to remember because there's this sort of aura around Donald Trump's mystical political appeal that he is unlikable and repellent to voters.
03:43:07.000And that schtick, which is the kind of sledgehammer, petulant, self-aggrandizing, self-obsessed... Self-obsessed.
03:43:15.000You ask me about fentanyl, let me tell you something about me.
03:43:20.000You ask me about childcare, let me tell you something about me.
03:43:24.000There's a reason that he lost the popular vote the first time that he ran for president against Hillary Clinton, that he lost the second time he ran by a much larger margin and lost the Electoral College, and it was very much a reminder of that.
03:43:36.000And I think that that reminder grew, to your point, more and more acute over the course of the evening, the more kind of, he kept kind of crawling up into his own previous references as the night went on.
03:43:48.000And it is in self-referential, people.
03:44:01.000Number one, I thought the egregious lack of fact-checking, and I know it isn't the moderator's job to debate Donald Trump, but he was allowed to say a series of lies that I know on our programs we're going to be playing a lot of it with a slew of fact-checks.
03:44:15.000I mean, he literally denied the words he literally said on camera in Charlottesville.
03:44:36.000That's where she said it was her fault.
03:44:39.000Oh no, we're just going to pull the documentary, man.
03:44:43.000He was desperately trying to get somebody to come to defend the Capitol because Trump won't.
03:44:48.000Because Trump sicked his mob of supporters on the Capitol.
03:44:52.000They came to the Capitol with weapons and zip ties and Nancy Pelosi and other Despite the fact that Trump wasn't bringing them in.
03:45:04.000And I'm gonna give Biden one line he did get.
03:45:06.000When he said he had the morals of an alley cat, now that was an old guy move that I actually could respect.
03:45:11.000Like that was like a thing that only old guy would say.
03:45:14.000We're going to sign back in and keep watching, but we're going to go to the chat really quick while we reload the stream for a little bit longer.
03:45:22.000A little bit more post-debate coverage.
03:46:04.000And now everybody's realizing, oh my god, we can't actually keep pretending for another four more years that this guy who's probably gonna die from old age or Alzheimer's is actually fit to be president.
03:47:18.000I'm really glad that we can all kind of finally have this moment of unity, where even the Democrats are now coming to terms with the fact that Joe Biden is severely... He's severely ill, okay?
03:47:31.000I am so sick of the gaslighting that we have had to endure for the last four years, where people are like, oh, he's fine, he's just got a cold.
03:49:09.000So the question is whether it's going to happen, and I think that David Plouffe's take on that is probably correct, and I think that Joe Biden's take on that is correct.
03:49:17.000My colleague Alex Wagner is standing by right now with California Governor Biden's surrogate Gavin Newsom.
03:49:23.000Alex, I cannot wait for this conversation.
03:50:04.000This is a world we're living in now, Donald Trump created, where 13-year-olds have to deliver the child of the person that impregnated them.
03:50:14.000This is a world that Donald Trump has created.
03:50:17.000And so for me, it was daylight and darkness.
03:50:22.000of the president's record and I'm very proud for his vision of the future.
03:50:24.000I mean, let's talk about the substance though, because I feel like on the signature issue that Democrats have, which is abortion, the president's response was garbled and undirected at best.
03:50:36.000Do you feel like he did what he needed to do on an issue that could motivate voters in the polls?
03:50:40.000I think it's significantly insignificant because it's de minimis.
03:51:23.000And I was very, very proud that he was able to articulate the work that he's done and lay a foundation of understanding of the lies and the deceit that continued to come out of Donald Trump.
03:51:33.000You were out there getting up for questions about whether Biden should step down.
03:51:41.000There is panic that has set in among people who have watched this debate, who are Democrats, people who are strategists, and some even inside Democratic campaigns.
03:52:17.000We need to deliver for him at this moment.
03:52:19.000With all due respect, the more time we start having these conversations go down these rabbit holes, it's unhelpful to our democracy, our fate and future of this country, the world.
03:52:29.000They need us right now to step up, and that's exactly what I intend to do.
03:52:33.000Not to belabor the point, but, I mean, this was a Biden campaign strategy.
03:52:37.000This was their idea to do this debate now.
03:52:40.000And I wonder what you think they got out of it.
03:52:41.000What was Biden's strongest moment from this debate in your mind?
03:53:51.000Thank you so much for taking time here.
03:53:53.000When you said worry less and do more, do what?
03:53:58.000What do you think that people who support President Biden, people in democratic politics, people who are planning on voting for him, who are worried that he seemed older than they expected tonight, that he didn't seem to reassure people on stamina issues as Joy was saying before, what should people do?
03:54:16.000We'll talk about what he has done and what he's done recently.
03:54:19.000What he's delivered in bipartisan, unprecedented legislation.
03:54:22.000An infrastructure bill, the Chips in Science Act, the work that he's done across a spectrum of issues to deliver for the American people.
03:54:29.000And the vision he's laid out for the future and contrast that.
03:54:33.000Not just lifting up those issues, but contrast that and drive that contrast of the dystopian vision that Donald Trump has to the future.
03:54:40.000It's a binary choice at the end of the day.
03:54:42.000And so we've got to drive that contrast even harder.
03:54:47.000And Trump didn't make that better tonight because he continued the lies and the grievances and the retribution and the language that no one else want to see moving forward.
03:55:26.000In terms of bucking up and not navel-gazing and moving forward.
03:55:32.000If you were to advise the campaign how to turbocharge, how to kick up into another level, I do think they're going to have to make up ground they didn't previously have to make up because of this debate performance.
03:55:44.000What can they do that they're not doing?
03:55:46.000Should they do the second debate in September?
03:55:48.000Should they change course in some of the ways that they are trying to communicate?
03:55:53.000I hear you making a very strong case for President Biden's record, but I don't know what they should do to make that case more strongly than they have been.
03:56:02.000Well, I think you just double down on what we're doing.
03:56:04.000We're all about to go out to six states across this country.
03:56:41.000And it's about having the back of the president.
03:56:43.000If you think that Joe Biden is going to be replaced by Gavin Newsom, what a one in the chat.
03:56:47.000I wanted to ask you, you've talked a lot about President Biden and his performance and his accomplishments.
03:56:52.000If voters out there could see one answer from Donald Trump tonight or one moment that stuck out to you where you thought people cannot elect this man, what would that be?
03:57:02.000I mean, what should people out there who are pushing out there that was damaging and terrible from Donald Trump the most?
03:57:12.000The way he talks about immigrants offends me.
03:57:15.000I live in the most diverse state in the world's most diverse democracy.
03:57:40.000It's about all of the things stacked together that represent not only what he said tonight, but what he said over his entire career.
03:57:40.000It's about all of the things stacked together that represent not only what he said tonight, but what he said over his entire career.
03:57:47.000He doesn't have your back, period, full stop.
03:57:48.000He doesn't have your back, period, full stop.
03:57:50.000We must have the back of the president of the United States, Joe Biden, at this critical moment and focus on tomorrow, focus on the vision that will ignite this country moving forward and talk about the stakes of falling short.
03:57:51.000We must have the back of the president of the United States, Joe Biden, at this critical moment and focus on tomorrow.
03:58:09.000Governor, I am sensing a frustration with the format of this debate, the reduction, the reductivist nature of the debate, the sort of carnival like atmosphere of the debate and a desire to get back to the essence of news and the choice ahead for the American public.
04:00:18.000If you're the campaign, you're going to push Moments there were a couple on social media, but it's not the debate they wanted I think the biggest challenge for them and Nicole's been talking about this a little bit and we've sat in similar chairs is How distracting all of the chatter is going which all getting on?
04:00:36.000on email about whether he should be replaced.
04:01:29.000Now, is that chatter the same chatter?
04:01:32.000I think Lawrence made this point earlier today, earlier this evening, in two weeks when Trump is sentenced and if Joe Biden goes out and has a strong couple It may not be, but incumbent upon the campaign to now dig out of this hole.
04:01:45.000And that's not where you want to be coming out of a debate.
04:01:47.000I will also say, I worked for President Obama in 2012 as his traveling press secretary when he absolutely bombed the first debate.
04:02:21.000What would you I mean, if you were like, you know, on the campaign now and you have all this chatter, we're all hearing in our text, what do you think in the next 24 to 48 hours would you do?
04:02:34.000Well, you've seen aides do this and you saw Governor Newsom do this a tiny bit at the end.
04:02:39.000I mean, he said at the beginning he won the debate.
04:02:41.000I don't think that's... Oh, he's an excellent surrogate, by the way.
04:04:04.000On the Vice President question, obviously the most important role of the Vice President is to be the understudy in the case of the worst for the President.
04:04:13.000And so speaking with, we haven't spoken with Vice President Harris yet, she's due to be joining us soon.
04:04:23.000Well, that's interesting because I do think when people chatter about replacing him, they don't always mention Vice President Harris and they should.
04:04:30.000I mean, she's the Vice President of the United States.
04:04:32.000She is first in line, but people think about a brokered convention and what that might look like, right?
04:04:37.000And so I also think it's important for the campaign and for the Biden that she is absolutely with him and has his back and believes he has what it takes to be president.
04:05:16.000David Plouffe, who was just on the air earlier, and David Axelrod, two of the closest advisors, were the ones who went and told him he bombed the debate.
04:05:22.000He didn't watch it for a couple of days, and then he knew.
04:05:24.000He David Plouffe, who was just on the air earlier, and David Axelrod, two of the closest advisers, were the ones who went and told him he bombed the debate.
04:05:35.000He didn't watch it for a couple of days.
04:05:38.000And then he knew I did not do well in the debate.
04:05:40.000He gave one of the best and I was traveling with him all the time.
04:05:44.000He gave one of the best performances at a rally the next day in Colorado that he gave the entire year because, again, they're competitive people.
04:05:50.000I would say in this moment it is probably a combination of Mike Donilon, And Steve Ricchetti perhaps, Ron Klain of course, who are conveying directly to him how that debate performance went and where it goes from here.
04:06:11.000Do you believe that doing the debate this early was a campaign idea or was it his idea?
04:06:16.000I think likely a campaign idea that he would have to have signed off on.
04:06:22.000I gotta say, I am not convinced, and I know you're gonna disagree with me on this, but I am not convinced that it was a bad idea to do the debate this early.
04:06:29.000Because part of the calculus there is, let's not look like we're afraid to debate, and let's debate really early so if it goes really badly, a lot more water will be under the bridge by the time anybody has to make any sort of decision based on this.
04:06:43.000I mean, having this debate in June is way better than having this debate in October.
04:06:49.000I actually, I thought it was a good idea from the standpoint of the biggest question that Biden faced from his own supporters, people who were with him but want to feel confident, is the stamina question.
04:07:00.000So I think doing it, especially doing it in the summer, it's got like a pre, you know, July 4th kind of timing vibe.
04:07:10.000I mean, I think had he delivered and actually delivered a vigorous, even just a decent deliver, you know, sort of performance, I think this would have been a very smart idea.
04:07:19.000But I think some of the decisions around it, I think putting him on the right, I still will maintain.
04:07:54.000So going against him, you needed better optics for your...
04:07:58.000Well, let's bring in some very important new voices to this conversation, people who are the people we've been talking about in the abstract all night, voters.
04:08:06.000Joining us now from Phoenix, where he watched the debate with four voters, is NBC News correspondent Gatti Schwartz.
04:08:15.000Fascinating stuff at the top of your hour because this is my panel right here.
04:08:19.000We are in the backyard in Maricopa County here in Arizona and after we were done watching the debate, you're over here, the TVs are over here, they don't have IFBs in.
04:08:30.000And so as you all were talking about the possibility of somebody else other than Biden running on the Democratic ticket or possibly an open convention, they were talking about this same thing and they are completely removed from these spin rooms and everything that's happening.
04:08:45.000It's happening over there in Atlanta right now.
04:08:48.000It's just really interesting to hear you all talk about that, to hear you all talk about that, all at the same time.
04:08:52.000So, first off, I want to get your perspective and whether or not it changed, but when we came, when we set this up, we were talking about double-haters, the people that don't like either candidate.
04:09:07.000How would you describe both candidates after tonight, starting with you?
04:09:12.000Oh, so Trump, he didn't really answer questions.
04:09:17.000He just kept rebuttaling what Biden said or bringing up something that has nothing to do with the question.
04:09:24.000Biden, he was trying to answer the questions, but he also was trying to rebuttal Trump as well when he was, you know, coming at him about things that have nothing to do with the question, like, you know, golfing or things like that.
04:09:34.000I saw you get pretty heated when they started talking about golfing.
04:09:37.000Yeah, because why are you talking about golfing?
04:09:39.000This is a political debate about presidency and how are you going to be in the office?
04:11:22.000I feel like when Trump was speaking, You know, he's got that orange skin and he had that silly smile and he moves his hands like this and I want to put a set of tambourines in between like the wind-up monkey because he pats himself on the back so much.
04:11:34.000And here's Biden, unfortunately, poor thing, who he would talk and it was like the puppet master was like, oh here I am and I'm gonna go do this and then I'm over.
04:11:45.000And his head was down, his eyes were glazed, it was like he was on and he was off.
04:11:51.000And I think both parties should really think about an open convention.
04:11:55.000Nicole, how do you categorize this choice?
04:12:01.000I mean, it's like Sophie's choice, but reverse.
04:12:04.000I don't want to make either choice because I was not surprised by their performance at all.
04:12:09.000Trump acted like Trump, Biden acted like Biden, and that's why I'm frustrated with where we are today.
04:12:15.000You're all talking about open conventions.
04:12:16.000I don't think any of you are Democrats or card-carrying Democrats.
04:13:00.000So, for me to consider somebody else, that's what I'm looking at.
04:13:03.000I'm looking at leadership characteristics.
04:13:04.000Now, there is something that we've been talking about, and I've been kind of reluctant on bringing it up, because I don't want you to get all kinds of hate from people.
04:13:11.000But it's the idea of, like, I don't like any of these candidates, so I may not vote, but I'm scared of people saying, no, you have to vote.
04:13:30.000I mean, I was, back in 2016, it was all that chatter of, you know, it's your American right, it's your due diligence, and if you don't vote, then you're voting for the other person, and all of this that really had my husband and I prayerfully considering, like, Who do we vote for?
04:13:47.000And with the two choices we have now, we don't.
04:13:50.000And I can feel more confident not voting for either of them than I can trying to... I did the lesser of two evils last time, and January 6th happened.
04:14:03.000Actually, when we were watching the debate, every time January 6th came up, I saw you all lean forward.
04:14:08.000When they started talking about January 6th tonight, what went through your minds, starting with you?
04:14:14.000Stop saying that it's Nancy Pelosi's fault.
04:14:18.000Start taking... Former President Trump needs to take accountability for his part in this as well.
04:14:26.000I just can't even, I don't even want to go there because it just riles me so much that our country and our public buildings were just so defiled in that.
04:14:36.000Because he keeps saying that the election was stolen from him.
04:14:41.000It wasn't stolen, he was ousted from office, his four year job as contractor.
04:14:46.000For the American people, he was fired and he needed to go.
04:14:50.000There was another moment where I was watching you very intently as you were all watching the debate and I saw a lot of you lean forward when you start, when he, the question was about child care, right?
04:15:07.000When you heard the questions, what was going through your mind?
04:15:08.000Well, the main thing that was bothering me the most was when Biden was speaking about it, he was just saying, oh, it's only affecting blacks and Hispanics, but it's affecting everybody because child care is just expensive in general.
04:15:19.000And then when it's time for Trump to answer the question, he didn't even answer it.
04:15:44.000Jeff, did you see or hear any solutions?
04:15:47.000Well, I don't know that Trump has any policies in mind, and I know Biden does, but I don't think... How's he going to execute those policies if he returns to office?
04:16:07.000And again, this is coming from non-democrats talking about open convention.
04:16:11.000One of the other things that I thought was really important, you know, a lot of times when people are watching politics, they think everybody in the world is watching politics.
04:16:19.000Three of you said something I thought was fascinating.
04:16:22.000The truth is, how many here would have made it past three questions in this debate before turning the TV off?
04:16:30.000You three said that, no, and what would, at what point, if you weren't watching and hanging out with us and we weren't, you know, supplying you with all that guacamole, like, at what point would you have turned it off?
04:16:41.000What part just turned you off completely?
04:21:26.000I don't think anybody in America needs to have it explained to them that Nancy Pelosi didn't cause January 6th.
04:21:32.000I think the other thing that we're gonna learn in the coming days is...
04:21:38.000I mean, and it's anecdotal, but it is the threat.
04:21:42.000Voters know a lot about both of these men already.
04:21:47.000If debates were the only thing that determined outcomes, neither of our bosses would have won.
04:21:54.000I think he might quibble with losing all three.
04:21:55.000He definitely lost the first two to John Kerry.
04:21:59.000And he too had no idea that he'd lost.
04:22:02.000There is a thing with incumbent presidents, sort of, And I don't think Joe Biden is actually like this, but there's just some chip in them like, I have to debate this.
04:22:09.000McCain cited an insurrection against the government he ostensibly led.
04:22:16.000I think the questions for the Biden campaign are, how quickly can you get yourself back on offense tomorrow morning?
04:22:24.000And how quickly can you sort of reassure your coalition, which has a Adam Kinzinger and Jeff Duncan delivered straight to the Republicans who are, you know, like their voter, their AmeriCorps way, know how.
04:22:44.000How quickly can you get yourself back to the structural imperative?
04:22:49.000One of them is if they rewatch that debate and if the president watches that debate, it's very clear that his strength was when he was not listed.
04:23:02.000to remember numbers and then correcting himself and losing the thread.
04:23:07.000It was when he was passionately responding on veterans.
04:23:10.000It was when he was talking about January 6th.
04:25:48.000So I've been going through all the Twitter posts right now and we had a commercial break right there.
04:25:53.000So I've been making notes on my phone here of all the different videos.
04:25:56.000Let's go to Twitter and look at the feed because there's just a few things that you all need to see now because there's just so much going on.
04:26:01.000So go to the front page of my Twitter feed.
04:26:23.000Kamala Harris was also just on CNN and she she looks shook and she's sitting there and she's like oh well it was a slow start it was a slow start.
04:26:33.000Let's go ahead and play this video right now of President Trump walking in to the room of his advisors and staff after just obliterating Joe Biden during this debate.
04:27:28.000So, Chris Law, Savita, and Susie Wiles.
04:27:31.000Tonight, President Trump delivered the greatest debate performance and victory in history to the largest voter audience in history, making clear exactly how he will improve the lives of every American.
04:27:39.000Over and over, President Trump highlighted common-sense plans to reduce inflation, bringing down the cost of groceries, housing, and gas, as well as his plans to bring back his successful first-term policies that kept our southern border secure and free from the wave of Biden migrant crimes currently sweeping our country.
04:27:55.000Joe Biden, on the other hand, showed exactly why he deserves to be fired.
04:27:58.000Despite taking a week-long vacation at Camp David to prepare for the debate, Biden wasn't able to defend his disastrous record on the economy and border throughout the debate.
04:28:09.000He lied, invented stories, and could not articulate a single plan to make things less expensive.
04:28:16.000I mean, it just says President Trump is spot on when he says that if Joe Biden is too incompetent to stand trial, he's too incompetent to be president.
04:28:33.000The families of Lakin Riley, Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nungare, and every other victim of the Biden migrant crime are grieving.
04:28:42.000Our country is on fire at home and we stand on the brink of World War III because of Joe Biden's incompetence, but we can turn it all around and bring back the American dream starting on day one by reelecting President Donald Trump.
04:28:54.000So, wow, pretty powerful statement there from President Trump's campaign team.
04:30:11.000And the fact that the Democrats are not, you know, pulling this crazy woman aside and telling her, hey, you know, this is wrong what you're doing to Joe Biden.
04:30:20.000Again, I don't feel sorry for him, but it really is just so wrong.
04:30:24.000So, again, we've been streaming for about four hours now, and I can't keep my staff here all night long, but there's going to be so much more coverage.
04:30:34.000Stay tuned to my ex and my true social account, because I'm going to be live tweeting throughout the rest of the night, posting updates.
04:30:40.000We just showed you about an hour and a half of post-debate meltdowns from MSNBC.
04:30:45.000CNN and all the crazy liberals who are just losing their mind right now over Joe Biden just completely failing.
04:30:54.000Congratulations to President Trump and his amazing campaign team.
04:30:58.000This was an incredible debate performance by President Trump and I just think that this debate is really, truly going to be a game changer.
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04:32:19.000Thank you so much for spending your debate night with me.
04:32:22.000History was really made tonight, so we're gonna see.
04:32:25.000I think they're really gonna replace Joe Biden, but like I said, be sure that you're following me on Rumble Truth Social X. Getter and Gab for all of my live updates and My reports, I will be continuing my post-debate coverage tonight and all throughout tomorrow and the weekend as well, because I'm sure that there's not going to be a shortage of meltdowns from the Democrats.