J.D. Vance and Tim Walz are the first two candidates in the first Vice Presidential Debates, and they are going head-to-head in a debate hosted by CBS News in New York City. I break down what you can expect from tonight's debate and give my predictions.
00:28:38.000It's the first vice presidential debate between J.D.
00:28:42.000Vance, who of course is President Donald Trump's pick for vice president, and then he is debating Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota, who of course is Kamala Harris's pick for vice president.
00:28:52.000So the debate is going to be live in about 10 minutes.
00:28:56.000And so we are going to be streaming the entire debate live.
00:29:00.000It is on CBS News, but I will be providing my commentary and coverage and fact checking in real time.
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00:29:31.000It's going to be a lot of great coverage tonight, and there's a lot to talk about, and I'm sure that, you know, we're going to see Tim Walz lie.
00:29:40.000That's what Kamala Harris and Tim Walz do.
00:29:43.000The Democrats have nothing but lies on their side.
00:29:45.000So things that you can expect to see tonight.
00:29:47.000I'm sure Tim Walls is going to attack J.D. Vance for his perceived, I guess what they want to call the Republican Party's war on women.
00:29:58.000You're going to see Tim Walls constantly bring up the topic of abortion.
00:30:01.000I'm sure that they'll attack J.D. Vance for his comments on childless cat ladies.
00:30:07.000Given the ballistic missile attack on Israel today by Iran, you're going to see the Democrats and in this case, Tim Walls try to pivot away from his ties to Hamas and his ties to Iranian proxies.
00:30:23.000We know that he has a lot of ties to Islamic jihadists, given his background as the governor of Minnesota, a state where jihadists are rampant.
00:30:34.000And there's multiple photographs, as we know, from My own exclusive reporting here on Loomer Unleashed, and you can find those reports on Loomer.com that show Governor Tim Walz with associates of ISIS, associates of Hamas, associates of Hezbollah, and the Muslim Brotherhood in his home state of Minnesota.
00:30:52.000So those are just some of my predictions.
00:30:58.000Vance bring up the fact that Tim Walz is so radical that not even his own family members will support him and his own brother, another exclusive story that I broke, called Joe Biden and Kamala Harris a third world banana republic.
00:31:12.000And that, of course, was posted on Jeff Walls, that's the brother of Tim Walls, his Facebook page the same day that the Biden-Harris DOJ had Donald Trump indicted in his case in Manhattan, New York, which was overseen, of course, by Judge Juan Merchant.
00:31:29.000So those are just a few of my predictions tonight.
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00:31:48.000We're going to have a lot of great coverage tonight.
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00:31:56.000Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Israel tonight who are under attack by Iran.
00:32:03.000We saw that Iran is now threatening Israel.
00:32:06.000They're threatening to eradicate the Jewish people, the Jewish state, after Israel successfully took out the leader of Hezbollah and other officials and top leaders in Hezbollah and Hamas.
00:32:17.000And so it's a real shame because tomorrow, of course, is the first day of Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year.
00:32:22.000And so to all my Jewish viewers, if you're watching, I want to wish all of you Shana Tova a sweet and happy New Year.
00:32:30.000But it's just a shame that the people of Israel, they say majority of the people in Israel are currently hiding out in bomb shelters to escape and really evade all of those ballistic missiles that are crashing down.
00:32:44.000I saw a report earlier today that said that Iran spent $300 million on those ballistic missiles that they fired into Israel today.
00:32:53.000And no Israelis died, but the single person who did die was a Palestinian.
00:32:58.000And so it just goes to show you that the Iranians, they're killing their own people.
00:33:02.000They're killing their own people and the people that they claim to support.
00:33:06.000They claim to support the Palestinians, okay?
00:33:08.000They are supporters and funders of Hamas and Hezbollah.
00:33:13.000We can show that clip momentarily here.
00:33:16.000Before we get into the debate coverage tonight, it's really a horrific clip if you haven't seen it.
00:33:21.000A Palestinian man just standing underneath a lamppost and then all of a sudden some of the wreckage from one of the Iranian missiles falls on his head and it's so heavy.
00:33:33.000You can imagine thousands of pounds of metal just falling on top of somebody's body.
00:33:39.000And it landed on his head and it literally decapitated him.
00:33:43.000And so I want to warn you that the video that you're about to see is quite graphic, but you should just see the carnage that the Iranian Islamic regime is carrying out.
00:33:52.000And of course, these were attacks intended for the Jews, the people of Israel, but there are lots of casualties in war.
00:34:01.000And in this case, they ended up killing a Palestinian.
00:34:27.000And we saw today that President Donald Trump issued a statement, and he's right.
00:34:31.000You know, President Trump has been warning about the fact that we are on the verge of World War III.
00:34:35.000He's been talking about this for years now, and he said it last year when he was campaigning in the Republican presidential primary.
00:34:43.000There's numerous clips of him talking about how he's the only person who can prevent us from World War III.
00:34:49.000And he said that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, of course, have been very easy on Iran.
00:34:53.000Iran was broke when President Trump was in the White House, and now they are receiving tons of money.
00:34:58.000And I really want to know, how many missiles do you think they were able to purchase with the $16 billion that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris gave them?
00:35:24.000You can go on my ex feed and you can see that post for yourself.
00:35:27.000Let's see if we can get Caroline's tweet pulled up.
00:35:30.000Because essentially what she was highlighting is the fact that the United States government, the Biden-Harris regime, is in touch with the Iranian regime, telling them how brutal they can be towards Israel.
00:35:45.000So it's like controlling the level of carnage.
00:36:05.000The Biden-Harris administration is repeatedly telling a U.S.
00:36:08.000enemy, you know, the people chanting, death to America, death to America, death to America, holding the signs of our leaders burning on fire.
00:36:16.000What level of assault against the U.S.
00:36:29.000Let's go ahead and play all three, and then you can see President Trump on three separate occasions talking about Obama has plenty to do with it.
00:36:37.000Of course, the fact that they were going to get us into World War Three and their support and emboldening of Islamic jihadists was going to get us into war.
00:36:45.000And as Donald Trump always says, there will not be any more Israel left.
00:37:49.000And yet, he's negotiating with President Xi of China, who, when I say he's very smart, the press — look at — that's a lot of press back there.
00:38:03.000So, for him to negotiate with President Xi of China is like my high school football team playing the — let's see, what's a good team nowadays?
00:39:58.000The vice presidential debate is about to start in the next 30 seconds.
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00:40:48.000Tonight, with just over a month to go until election day, the first and only meeting between the two men who hope to become vice president of the United States.
00:40:56.000Democratic Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota and Republican Senator J.D.
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00:43:00.000We have not shared the questions or topics with the campaigns.
00:43:52.000still considers it the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world and it has drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon.
00:44:01.000It is down now to one or two weeks time.
00:44:05.000Governor Walz, if you were the final voice in the Situation Room, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran?
00:44:42.000But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there.
00:44:50.000You saw it experienced today where along with our Israeli partners and our coalition able to stop the incoming attack.
00:44:58.000But what's fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter.
00:45:02.000It's clear, and the world saw it on that debate stage a few weeks ago, a nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment.
00:45:55.000When our allies see Donald Trump turn towards Vladimir Putin, turn towards North Korea, when we start to see that type of fickleness around holding the coalitions together, we will stay committed.
00:46:09.000And as the Vice President said today is, we will protect our forces and our allied forces and there will be consequences.
00:46:30.000And thanks, most importantly, to the American people who are watching this evening and caring enough about this country to pay attention to this vice presidential debate.
00:46:37.000I want to answer the question, but I want to actually give an introduction to myself a little bit because I recognize a lot of Americans don't know who either one of us are.
00:46:44.000I was raised in a working class family.
00:46:46.000My mother required food assistance for periods of her life.
00:46:48.000My grandmother required Social Security help to raise me.
00:46:52.000And she raised me in part because my own mother struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life.
00:46:56.000I went to college on the GI Bill after I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served in Iraq.
00:47:01.000And so I stand here asking to be your Vice President with extraordinary gratitude for this country, for the American dream that made it possible for me to live my dreams.
00:47:10.000And most importantly, I know that a lot of you are worried about the chaos in the world and the feeling that the American dream is unattainable.
00:47:17.000I want to try to convince you tonight, over the next 90 minutes, that if we get better leadership in the White House, if we get Donald Trump back in the White House, the American Dream is going to be attainable once again.
00:47:27.000Now, to answer this particular question, we have to remember that as much as Governor Walz just accused Donald Trump of being an agent of chaos, Donald Trump actually delivered stability in the world, and he did it by establishing effective deterrence.
00:47:40.000People were afraid of stepping out of line.
00:47:42.000Iran, which launched this attack, has received over a hundred billion dollars in unfrozen assets thanks to the Kamala Harris administration.
00:47:52.000They use it to buy weapons that they're now launching against our allies, and God forbid, potentially, launching against the United States as well.
00:47:59.000Donald Trump recognized that for people to fear the United States, you needed peace through strength.
00:48:04.000They needed to recognize that if they got out of line, the United States global leadership would put stability and peace back in the world.
00:48:12.000Now, you asked about a preemptive strike, Margaret, and I want to answer the question.
00:48:15.000Look, it is up to Israel what they think they need to do to keep their country safe.
00:48:19.000And we should support our allies wherever they are when they're fighting the bad guys.
00:48:23.000I think that's the right approach to take with the Israel question.
00:48:28.000Governor Walz, do you care to respond to any of the allegations?
00:48:32.000Well, look, Donald Trump was in office.
00:48:33.000We'll sometimes hear a revisionist history, but when Donald Trump was in office, it was Donald Trump who we had a coalition of nations that had boxed Iran's nuclear program in, the inability to advance it.
00:48:46.000Donald Trump pulled that program and put nothing else in its place.
00:48:50.000So Iran is closer to a nuclear weapon than they were before because of Donald Trump's fickle leadership.
00:48:55.000And when Iran shot down an American aircraft in international airspace, Donald Trump tweeted, because that's the standard diplomacy of Donald Trump.
00:49:04.000And when Iranian missiles did fall near U.S.
00:49:08.000troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as headaches.
00:49:15.000Look, our allies understand that Donald Trump is fickle.
00:49:19.000He will go to whoever has the most flattery or where it makes sense to him.
00:49:23.000Steady leadership like you witnessed today, like you witnessed in April.
00:51:46.000Sure, so first of all let's start with the hurricane because it's an unbelievable, unspeakable human tragedy.
00:51:51.000I just saw today actually a photograph of two grandparents on a roof with a six-year-old child and it was the last photograph ever taken of them because the roof collapsed and those innocent people lost their lives and I'm sure Governor Walz joins me in saying our hearts go out to those innocent people, our prayers go out to them and we want as robust and aggressive as a federal response as we can get to save as many lives as possible and then of course afterwards to help the people in those communities He is not.
00:52:56.000Just for the sake of argument, so we're not arguing about weird science, let's just say that's true.
00:53:00.000Well, if you believe that, what would you want to do?
00:53:03.000The answer is that you'd want to reshore as much American manufacturing as possible, and you'd want to produce as much energy as possible in the United States of America, because we're the cleanest economy in the entire world.
00:53:15.000What have Kamala Harris's policies actually led to?
00:53:18.000More energy production in China, more manufacturing overseas, more doing business in some of the dirtiest parts of the entire world.
00:53:25.000And when I say that, I mean the amount of carbon emissions they're doing per unit of economic output.
00:53:30.000So if we actually care about getting cleaner air and cleaner water, the best thing to do is to double down and invest in American workers and the American people.
00:53:39.000And unfortunately, Kamala Harris has done exactly the opposite.
00:53:42.000Governor Walz, you have two minutes to respond.
00:53:44.000Well, we got close to an agreement because all those things are happening.
00:53:47.000Look, first of all, it is a horrific tragedy with this hurricane, and my heart goes out to the folks that are down there in contact with the governors.
00:53:57.000I serve as Co-chair of the Council of Governors as we work together on these emergency managements.
00:54:10.000The federal government comes in, makes sure they're there to that we recover, but we're still in that phase where we need to make sure that they're staying there, staying focused.
00:54:17.000Now look, coming back to the climate change issue, there's no doubt this thing roared onto the scene faster and stronger than anything we've seen.
00:54:24.000Senator Vance has said that there's a climate problem in the past.
00:54:27.000Donald Trump called it a hoax and then joked that these things would make more beachfront property to be able to invest in.
00:54:33.000What we've seen out of the Harris administration now, the Biden-Harris administration, is we've seen this investment.
00:55:57.000Well look, what the President has said is that if the Democrats, in particular Kamala Harris and her leadership, if they really believe that climate change is serious, what they would be doing is more manufacturing and more energy production in the United States of America, and that's not what they're doing.
00:56:11.000So clearly Kamala Harris herself doesn't believe her own rhetoric on this.
00:56:15.000If she did, she would actually agree with Donald Trump's energy policies.
00:56:19.000Now, something Governor Walz said I think is important to touch upon, because when we talk about clean energy, I think that's a slogan that often the Democrats will use here.
00:56:28.000I'm talking of course about the Democratic leadership.
00:56:30.000And the real issue is that if you're spending hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars of American taxpayer money on solar panels that are made in China, number one, you're going to make the economy dirtier.
00:56:41.000We should be making more of those solar panels here in the United States of America.
00:57:36.000And thinking about how do we respond to that, we're thinking ahead on this.
00:57:40.000And what Kamala Harris has been able to do in Minnesota, we're starting to weatherproof some of these things.
00:57:45.000The infrastructure law that was passed allows us to think about mitigation in the future.
00:57:49.000How do we make sure that we're protecting by burying our power lines?
00:57:52.000How do we make sure that we're protecting lakefronts and things that we're seeing more and more of?
00:57:56.000But to call it a hoax and to take the oil company executives to Mar-a-Lago, say, give me money for my campaign, And I'll let you do whatever you want.
00:58:06.000We can be smarter about that, and an all-above-energy policy is exactly what she's doing, creating those jobs right here.
00:58:55.000So first of all, Margaret, before we talk about deportations, we have to stop the bleeding.
00:58:59.000We have a historic immigration crisis because Kamala Harris started and said that she wanted to undo all of Donald Trump's border policies.
00:59:08.00094 executive orders suspending deportations, decriminalizing illegal aliens, Massively increasing the asylum fraud that exists in our system.
00:59:19.000And what it's meant is that a lot of fentanyl is coming into our country.
00:59:23.000I had a mother who struggled with opioid addiction and has gotten clean.
00:59:26.000I don't want people who are struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance because Kamala Harris let in fentanyl into our communities at record levels.
01:03:42.000Margaret, my point is that we already have massive child separations thanks to Kamala Harris's open border.
01:03:47.000I didn't accuse Kamala Harris of inviting drug mules.
01:03:50.000I said that she enabled the Mexican drug cartels to operate freely in this country and we know that they use children as drug mules and it is a disgrace and it has to stop.
01:04:00.000Look, I think what Tim said just doesn't pass the smell test.
01:04:03.000For three years, Kamala Harris went out bragging that she was going to undo Donald Trump's border policy.
01:04:11.000We had a record number of illegal crossings.
01:04:13.000We had a record number of fentanyl coming into our country.
01:04:15.000And now, Well, now that she's running for president, or a few months before, she says that somehow she got religion and cared a lot about a piece of legislation.
01:04:23.000The only thing that she did when she became the vice president, when she became the appointed border czar, was to undo 94 Donald Trump executive actions that opened the border.
01:04:35.000This problem is leading to massive problems in the United States of America.
01:04:40.000Parents who can't afford healthcare, schools that are overwhelmed, it's got to stop and it will when Donald Trump is president.
01:05:31.000We could come together and solve this if we didn't let Donald Trump continue to make it an issue.
01:05:36.000And the consequences in Springfield were the governor had to send State law enforcement to escort kindergartners to school.
01:05:44.000I believe Senator Vance wants to solve this, but by standing with Donald Trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point.
01:05:52.000And when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings.
01:06:30.000Look, Margaret, first of all, the gross majority of what we need to do at the southern border is just empowering law enforcement to do their job.
01:06:36.000I've been to the southern border more than our borders are.
01:06:37.000Kamala Harris has been and it's actually heartbreaking.
01:06:40.000Because the Border Patrol agents, they just want to be empowered to do their job.
01:06:44.000Of course, additional resources would help, but most of this is about the President and the Vice President empowering our law enforcement to say, if you try to come across the border illegally, you've got to stay in Mexico, you've got to go back through proper channels.
01:06:57.000Now, Governor Walz brought up the community of Springfield, and he's very worried about the things that I've said in Springfield.
01:07:03.000Look, in Springfield, Ohio, and in communities all across this country, you've got schools that are overwhelmed, you've got hospitals that are overwhelmed, you've got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes.
01:07:20.000The people that I'm most worried about in Springfield, Ohio, are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris's open border.
01:08:38.000And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio, does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status.
01:08:54.000Margaret, the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check, and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
01:09:01.000So there's an application called the CBP One App, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum, or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand.
01:09:16.000That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card, and waiting for 10 years Thank you, Senator.
01:09:20.000Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process.
01:10:17.000And Kamala Harris and I do believe in the middle class because that's where we come from.
01:10:21.000We both grew up in that, we understand.
01:10:23.000So those of you out there listening tonight, you're hearing a lot of stuff back and forth and it's good, it's healthy, that's what this is supposed to happen.
01:10:29.000You should be listening, how's this going to impact me?
01:10:31.000The bold forward plan that Kamala Harris put out there is one is talking about this housing issue.
01:10:37.000The one thing is there's three million new houses proposed under this plan with down payment assistance on the front end to get you in a house.
01:10:44.000A house is much more than just an asset to be traded somewhere.
01:12:32.000Well, first of all, you're going to hear a lot from Tim Walz this evening, and you just heard it in the answer.
01:12:37.000A lot of what Kamala Harris proposes to do, and some of it, I'll be honest with you, it even sounds pretty good.
01:12:42.000Here's what you won't hear, is that Kamala Harris has already done it.
01:12:46.000Because she's been the Vice President for three and a half years, she had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies, and what she's actually done instead is drive the cost of food higher by 25%.
01:12:55.000Drive the cost of housing higher by about 60%.
01:13:02.000Open the American southern border and make middle class life unaffordable for a large number of Americans.
01:13:08.000If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now.
01:13:14.000Not when asking for a promotion, but in the job the American people gave her three and a half years ago.
01:13:19.000And the fact that she isn't tells you a lot about how much you can trust her actual plans.
01:13:24.000Now, Donald Trump's economic plan is not just a plan, but it's also a record.
01:13:29.000A lot of those same economists attack Donald Trump's plans and they have PhDs, but they don't have common sense and they don't have wisdom because Donald Trump's economic policies to deliver the highest take home pay in a generation in this country.
01:13:42.000One point five percent inflation and to boot peace and security all over the world.
01:13:47.000So when people say that Donald Trump's economic plan doesn't make sense, I say look at the record.
01:13:52.000He delivered rising take-home pay for American workers.
01:14:01.000Look at what was so different about Donald Trump's tax cuts, even from previous Republican tax cut plans, is that a lot of those resources went to giving more take home pay to middle class and working class Americans.
01:14:12.000It was passed in 2017 and you saw an economic boom unlike we've seen in a generation in this country.
01:14:19.000That is a record that I'm proud to run on and we're going to get back to that common sense wisdom so that you can afford to live the American dream again.
01:14:29.000I know a lot of you are worried about paying the bills.
01:14:31.000It's going to stop when Donald Trump brings back common sense to this country.
01:14:35.000Governor, do you want to respond to that?
01:14:37.000What has Kamala Harris done for the middle class?
01:14:38.000Yeah, well, Kamala Harris's day one was Donald Trump's failure on COVID that led to the collapse of our economy.
01:14:44.000We were already before COVID in a manufacturing recession, but 10 million people out of work, largest percentage since the Great Depression.
01:15:59.000They were wrong about the idea that if we made America less self-reliant, less self-productive in our own nation, that it would somehow make us better off.
01:16:09.000And for the first time in a generation, Donald Trump had the wisdom and the courage to say to that bipartisan consensus, we're not doing it anymore.
01:16:17.000We're bringing American manufacturing back.
01:17:08.000I think the thing that most concerns me on this is, is Donald Trump was the guy who created the largest trade deficit in American history with China.
01:17:56.000If you notice, what Governor Walz just did is he said, first of all, Donald Trump has to listen to the experts.
01:18:00.000And then when he acknowledged that the experts screwed up, he said, well, Donald Trump didn't do nearly as good of a job as the statistics show that he did.
01:18:07.000So what Tim Walz is doing, and honestly, Tim, I think you've got a tough job here, because you've got to play whack-a-mole.
01:18:13.000You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did.
01:18:17.000You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did.
01:18:22.000And then you've simultaneously got to defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries, and housing unaffordable for American citizens.
01:18:31.000I was raised by a woman who would sometimes go into medical debt so that she could put food on the table in our household.
01:18:39.000I know what it's like to not be able to afford the things that you need to afford.
01:19:33.000Yeah, well, and to the folks out there who didn't get at the top of this, look, I grew up in small rural Nebraska, a town of 400, a town that you rode your bike with your buddies until the streetlights come on, and I'm proud of that service.
01:19:46.000I joined the National Guard at 17, worked on family farms, and then I used the GI Bill to become a teacher.
01:20:22.000They, look, I will be the first to tell you, I have poured my heart into my community, I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been perfect, and I'm a knucklehead at times.
01:20:56.000Many times I will talk a lot, I will get caught up in the rhetoric, but being there, the impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China.
01:21:13.000Praising Xi Jinping about COVID, and I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that he ends up losing.
01:21:19.000So this is about trying to understand the world.
01:21:22.000It's about trying to do the best you can for your community, and then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is.
01:21:29.000My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier, or was being a good member of Congress, those are the things that I think are the values that people care about.
01:21:41.000The question was, can you explain the discrepancy?
01:21:45.000All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this.
01:21:48.000So I will just, that's what I've said.
01:21:52.000So I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protest went in.
01:21:58.000And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance.
01:22:06.000Senator Vance, in 2016 you called your running mate Donald Trump unfit for the nation's highest office and you said he could be America's Hitler.
01:22:16.000I know you've said, you've been asked many times, and you've said you regret those comments.
01:22:20.000And explained you then voted for Donald Trump in 2020.
01:22:23.000But the Washington Post reported new messages last week in which you also disparaged Trump's economic record while he was president.
01:22:31.000Writing to someone in 2020, quote, Trump thoroughly failed to deliver his economic populism.
01:22:38.000You're now his running mate, and you've shifted many of your policy stances to align with his.
01:22:44.000If you become vice president, why should Americans trust that you will give Donald Trump the advice he needs to hear, and not just the advice he wants to hear?
01:22:56.000Well, first of all, Margaret, because I've always been open.
01:22:58.000And sometimes, of course, I've disagreed with the President, but I've also been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump.
01:23:04.000I was wrong, first of all, because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record.
01:23:10.000But most importantly, Donald Trump delivered for the American people.
01:23:14.000Rising wages, rising take-home pay, an economy that worked for normal Americans, a secure southern border, a lot of things, frankly, that I didn't think he'd be able to deliver on.
01:23:23.000And yeah, when you screw up, when you misspeak, when you get something wrong and you change your mind, you ought to be honest with the American people about it.
01:23:29.000It's one of the reasons, Margaret, why I've done so many interviews is because I think it's important to actually explain to the American people where I come down on the issues and what change.
01:23:37.000Now, you pointed out some messages from 2020.
01:23:40.000Margaret, I've been extremely consistent that I think there were a lot of things that we could have done better in the Trump administration the first round.
01:23:59.000So there were a lot of things on the border, on tariffs, for example, where I think that we could have done so much more if the Republican Congress and the Democrats in Congress had been a little bit better about how they governed the country.
01:24:11.000They were so obsessed with impeaching Donald Trump, they couldn't actually govern.
01:24:14.000And I want to talk about this tariff issue in particular, Margaret, because Tim just accused this of being a national sales tax.
01:24:22.000Look, the one thing, and you're probably surprised to hear me praising Joe Biden, but the one thing that Joe Biden did is he continued some of the Trump tariffs that protected American manufacturing jobs.
01:24:33.000And it's the one issue, the most pro-worker part of the Biden administration, it's the one issue where Kamala Harris has run away from Joe Biden's record.
01:24:42.000If you're trying to employ slave laborers in China at $3 a day, you're going to do that and undercut the wages of American workers Unless our country stands up for itself and says you're not accessing our markets unless you're paying middle-class Americans a fair wage.
01:25:02.000Now to the issue of reproductive rights.
01:25:04.000Governor Walz, after Roe vs. Wade was overturned, you signed a bill into law that made Minnesota one of the least restrictive states in the nation when it comes to abortion.
01:25:15.000Former President Trump said in the last debate that you believe abortion, quote, in the ninth month is absolutely fine.
01:26:27.000So in Minnesota, what we did was restore Roe versus Wade.
01:26:32.000We made sure that we put Women in charge of their health care.
01:26:35.000But look, if you don't know Amanda or a Hadley, you soon will.
01:26:41.000Their Project 2025 is going to have a registry of pregnancies.
01:26:46.000It's going to make it more difficult, if not impossible, to get contraception and limit access, if not eliminate access to infertility treatments.
01:26:55.000Wow, he literally just dodged the question.
01:26:57.000Infertility treatments are why I have a child.
01:27:00.000That's nobody else's business, but those things are being proposed.
01:27:04.000And the catch-all on this is, is well, the states will decide.
01:27:08.000What's right for Texas might not be right for Washington.
01:27:36.000I want to talk about this issue because I know a lot of Americans care about it and I know a lot of Americans don't agree with everything that I've ever said on this topic.
01:27:44.000I grew up in a working class family in a neighborhood where I knew a lot of young women who had unplanned pregnancies and decided to terminate those pregnancies because they feel like they didn't have any other options.
01:27:56.000One of them is actually very dear to me.
01:27:58.000And I know she's watching tonight and I love you.
01:28:00.000And she told me something a couple of years ago that she felt like if she hadn't had that abortion, that it would have destroyed her life because she was in an abusive relationship.
01:28:09.000And I think that what I take from that as a Republican who proudly wants to protect innocent life in this country, who proudly wants to protect the vulnerable, is that my party, we've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust back on this we've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust back on this issue where they frankly just don't trust us.
01:28:27.000And I think that's one of the things that Donald Trump and I are endeavoring to do.
01:28:31.000I want us as a Republican Party to be pro-family in the fullest sense of the word.
01:28:36.000I want us to support fertility treatments.
01:28:38.000I want us to make it easier for moms to afford to have babies.
01:28:41.000I want to make it easier for young families to afford a home so they can afford a place to raise that family.
01:28:47.000I think there's so much that we can do on the public policy front just to give women more options.
01:28:54.000Now, of course, Donald Trump has been very clear that on the abortion policy specifically, that we have a big country and it's diverse.
01:29:01.000And California has a different viewpoint on this than Georgia.
01:29:04.000Georgia has a different viewpoint from Arizona.
01:29:07.000And the proper way to handle this, as messy as democracy sometimes is, is to let voters make these decisions.
01:29:15.000Let the individual states make their abortion policy.
01:29:17.000And I think that's what makes the most sense.
01:29:20.000And a very big, a very diverse, and let's be honest, sometimes a very, very messy and divided country.
01:29:26.000Governor, would you like to respond and also answer the question about restrictions?
01:29:29.000Yeah, well, the question got asked when Donald Trump made the accusation that wasn't true about Minnesota.
01:29:35.000Well, let me tell you... Governor, would you like to answer the question?
01:29:37.000You know, the question that we asked you.
01:29:39.000There's a young woman named Amber Thurman.
01:29:40.000She happens to be in Georgia, a restrictive state.
01:29:43.000Because of that, she had to travel a long distance to North Carolina to try and get her care.
01:29:51.000Amber Thurman died in that journey back and forth.
01:29:54.000The fact of the matter is, how can we as a nation say that your life and your rights, as basic as the right to control your own body, is determined on geography?
01:30:07.000There's a very real chance, had Amber Thurman lived in Minnesota, she would be alive today.
01:30:13.000That's why the restoration of Roe vs. Wade.
01:30:16.000When you listen to Vice President Harris talk about this subject, and you hear me talk about it, you hear us talking exactly the same.
01:30:22.000Donald Trump is trying to figure out how to get the political right of this.
01:30:26.000I agree with a lot of what Senator Vance said about what's happening.
01:30:28.000His running mate, though, does not, and that's the problem.
01:30:34.000He mentioned, I think referring to a national ban.
01:30:37.000In the past, you have supported a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks.
01:30:42.000In fact, you said if someone can't support legislation like that, quote, you are making the United States the most barbaric pro-abortion regime anywhere in the entire world.
01:30:53.000My question is, why have you changed your position?
01:30:56.000Well, first of all, I never supported a national ban.
01:30:59.000I did during when I was running for Senate in 2022, talk about setting some minimum national standard.
01:31:04.000For example, we have a partial birth abortion ban in this in place in this country at the federal level.
01:31:09.000I don't think anybody's trying to get rid of that, or at least I hope not, though I know that Democrats have taken a very radical pro-abortion stance.
01:31:15.000But Nora, you know, one of the things that changed is in the state of Ohio, we had a referendum in 2023 and the people of Ohio voted overwhelmingly, by the way, against my position.
01:31:26.000And I think that what I learned from that, Nora, is that we've got to do a better job at winning back people's trust.
01:31:31.000So many young women would love to have families.
01:31:34.000So many young women also see an unplanned pregnancy as something that's going to destroy their livelihood, destroy their education, destroy their relationships.
01:31:41.000And we have got to earn people's trust back.
01:31:44.000And that's why Donald Trump and I are committed to pursuing pro-family policies, making child care more accessible, making fertility treatments more accessible, because we've got to do a better job at that.
01:32:12.000Physicians feeling like they may be prosecuted for providing that care.
01:32:16.000And as far as making sure that we're educating our children and giving them options, Minnesota's a state with one of the lowest teen pregnancy rates.
01:32:25.000We know that the options need to be available and we make that true.
01:32:28.000We also make it, we're a top three state for the best place to raise children.
01:32:33.000But these two things to try and say that we're pro-children but we don't like this or you guys are pro-abortion, that's not the case at all.
01:32:41.000We are pro freedoms for women to make their choices and we're going to make options for children more affordable, a $6,000 child tax credit, but we're not going to base that on the backs of making someone like Amber Thurman drive 600 miles to try and get health care.
01:32:59.000First of all, I agree with you, Amber Thurman should still be alive, and there are a lot of people who should still be alive, and I certainly wish that she was.
01:33:05.000And maybe you're free to disagree with me on this and explain this to me, but as I read the Minnesota law that you signed into law, the statute that you signed into law, it says that a doctor who presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched late-term abortion.
01:33:26.000That is, I think, whether you're pro-choice or or pro-abortion, that is fundamentally barbaric.
01:33:32.000And that's why I use that word, Nora, is because some of what we've seen, do you want to force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions against their will?
01:33:39.000Because Kamala Harris is supported suing Catholic nuns to violate their freedom of conscience.
01:33:44.000We can be a big and diverse country where we respect people's freedom of conscience and make the country more pro-baby and pro-family, but please. - Yes, Governor, please respond.
01:33:53.000Look, this is one where there's always something there.
01:34:09.000Please tell me, what was I wrong about?
01:34:11.000That is not the way the law is written.
01:34:13.000I've given this advice on a lot of things, that getting involved, getting against, that's been misread and it was fact-checked at the last debate.
01:34:19.000But the point on this is, is there's a continuation of these guys to try and tell women or to get involved.
01:34:25.000I use this line on this, just mind your own business on this.
01:34:28.000Things worked best when Roe vs Wade was in place.
01:34:31.000When we do a restoration of Roe, that works best.
01:34:47.000So the hiding behind we're going to do all these other things, when you're not proposing them in your budget, Kamala Harris is proposing them.
01:34:54.000She's proposing all those things to make life easier for families.
01:34:57.000I asked a specific question, Governor.
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01:37:40.000So as I said, you guys, Canon's going to monitor for us, let us know when we're going to cut back live over to the debate coverage.
01:37:48.000But as I said in my intro before the debate started, I said, what can you expect?
01:37:54.000Well, I said, given the ballistic missile attack on Israel in the upcoming anniversary of October 7th, expect Tim Walz to try to pretend like he's going to be tough on Iran.
01:38:04.000But as we have seen, well, he is the governor of Minnesota, which a lot of people call Little Mogadishu because it is essentially turned into Somalia.
01:38:13.000And I'm not Exaggerating when I say this, they have so many radical Muslims there that people actually say that it's Somalia and they blended the Minnesota state flag with the Somali flag to redo the Minnesota state flag and Tim Walz, there's actually a video of him proudly
01:38:31.000standing next to the Somali redo of the Minnesota state flag and I think we have that video we can go ahead and we can play it or we actually have it here so here's the new flag the state flag and of course it was you can show the original Minnesota state flag and then the Minnesota flag compared to the Somali flag so that you can see the way that they fuse them together to appease the radical Muslims in Minnesota and so
01:38:58.000No, he's friends with Imam Asad Zaman, who praised Adolf Hitler and celebrated the October 7th attacks online.
01:39:06.000As I have exclusively reported, he has also given a platform to and has campaigned inside the radical ISIS-affiliated Dar al-Farouk Islamic Center in Minnesota, which the FBI has identified as a key recruitment location.
01:39:22.000And of course, as I have been reporting for years, well, Minnesota is the number one ISIS recruitment location for Islamic terrorists in the United States of America.
01:39:31.000And so don't believe Tim Walz when he tells you that he's going to be tough on Iran.
01:39:36.000Kamala Harris and Joe Biden gave Iran 16 billion dollars, okay?
01:39:44.000They've done nothing to curb or to stop or condemn the rise of Palestinian jihadi Muslims who are destroying our monuments and destroying our cities across the country.
01:39:55.000We're now tuning back in to the rest of the vice presidential debate.
01:39:59.000...red flag gun laws and legislation to ban certain semi-automatic rifles, including AR-15s.
01:40:05.000So let me ask you, earlier this year, for the first time, the parents of a school shooter were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
01:40:16.000Do you think holding parents responsible could curb mass shootings?
01:40:22.000Well, Norah, on that particular case, I don't know the full details, but I certainly trust local law enforcement and local authorities to make those decisions.
01:40:28.000I think in some cases the answer is going to be yes, and in some cases the answer is going to be no.
01:40:32.000And the details really matter here, of course.
01:40:33.000For example, if a kid steals a gun, that's going to be different than if a parent hands over a gun knowing that their kid is potentially dangerous.
01:40:41.000But look, I want to just sort of speak as a father of three beautiful little kids, and our oldest is now in second grade.
01:40:48.000And like a lot of parents, we send our kids to school with such hope and such joy and such pride at their little faces on the first day of school.
01:40:55.000And we know, unfortunately, that a lot of kids are going to experience this terrible epidemic of gun violence.
01:41:00.000And of course, our hearts go out to the families that are affected by this terrible stuff.
01:41:05.000And I think that Governor Walz and I actually probably agree that we need to do better on this.
01:41:09.000The question is just, how do we actually do it?
01:41:12.000Now here's something that really bothers me and worries me about this epidemic of violence.
01:41:17.000The gross majority, close to 90% in some of the statistics I've seen, of the gun violence in this country, it's committed with illegally obtained firearms.
01:41:25.000And while we're on that topic, we know that thanks to Kamala Harris's open border, we've seen a massive influx in the number of illegal guns run by the Mexican drug cartels.
01:41:35.000So that number, the amount of illegal guns in our country is higher today than it was three and a half years ago.
01:41:44.000And I think the answer is, and I say this not loving the answer, because I don't want my kids to go to school in a school that feels unsafe or where there are visible signs of security.
01:41:54.000But I unfortunately think that we have to increase security in our schools.
01:41:59.000We have to make the doors lock better.
01:42:02.000We've got to make the windows stronger.
01:42:04.000And of course, we've got to increase school resource officers because the idea that we can magically wave a wand and take guns out of the hands of bad guys, it just doesn't fit with recent experience.
01:42:14.000So we've got to make our schools safer.
01:42:16.000And I think we've got to have some common sense bipartisan solutions for how to do that.
01:42:33.000As a member of Congress, I sat in my office, surrounded by dozens of the Sandy Hook parents, and they were looking at my seven-year-old picture on the wall.
01:43:55.000No one's trying to scaremonger and say we're taking your guns, but I ask all of you out there, Do you want your schools hardened to look like a fort?
01:44:03.000Is that what we have to go when we know there's countries around the world that their children aren't practicing these types of drills?
01:44:31.000And I appreciate what Tim said, actually, about Finland.
01:44:34.000Because I do think it illustrates some of the, frankly, weird differences between our own country's gun violence problem and Finland.
01:44:42.000Okay, first of all, We have way higher rates of mental health abuse or mental health substance abuse.
01:44:49.000We have way higher rates of depression, way higher rates of anxiety.
01:44:53.000We unfortunately have a mental health crisis in this country that I really do think that we need to get to the root causes of because I don't think it's the whole reason why we have such a bad gun violence problem, but I do think it's a big piece of it.
01:45:04.000Another driver of the gun violence epidemic, especially that affecting our kids, it doesn't earn as many headlines, but is the terrible gun violence problem in a lot of our big cities.
01:45:14.000And this is why we have to empower law enforcement to arrest the bad guys, put them away, and take gun offenders off the streets.
01:45:21.000I think there's a whole host of things that we can do here, but I do think at our schools we've got to talk about more security.
01:45:49.000And several things I want to mention on this is, talking about cities and where it's at, the number one Where the most firearm deaths happen in Minnesota are rural suicides.
01:46:01.000And we have an epidemic of children getting guns and shooting themselves.
01:46:05.000And so, we have and we should look at all of the issues.
01:46:10.000Making sure folks have health care and all that, but I want to be very careful.
01:46:13.000This idea of stigmatizing mental health, just because you have a mental health issue, doesn't mean you're violent.
01:46:18.000And I think what we end up doing is we start looking for a scapegoat.
01:47:15.000We have, first let me say this, this issue of housing, and I think those of you listening on this, the problem we've had is that we've got a lot of folks that see housing as another commodity.
01:47:25.000It can be bought up, it can be shifted, it can be moved around.
01:47:29.000Those are not folks living in those houses.
01:47:31.000Those of you listening tonight, that house is a big deal.
01:47:33.000I bought and owned one house in my life.
01:47:35.000My mom still lives in the house where I was, and when I think of a house, I'm thinking of Christmas services after midnight mass where you go with your family.
01:47:45.000And one of the things, as I said, this program that the Vice President is pushing forward and bringing a new way of approaching this is something we're doing in Minnesota from that lead.
01:47:55.000We in the state invested in making sure our housing was the biggest investment that we'd ever made in housing.
01:48:23.000Now look, you're going to pay it back, and you're going to pay your mortgage.
01:48:26.000Those are things that we know in the long run, the appreciated value, the generational wealth that's created from it.
01:48:32.000And I will give Minneapolis an example.
01:48:34.000Minneapolis is the one city where we've seen the lowest inflation rates.
01:48:37.000We've seen a 12% increase in stock because we put some of these things in.
01:48:42.000And we're implementing a state program to make sure we get some of that down payment assistance.
01:48:46.000We get it back from people because here's what we know.
01:48:49.000People with stable housing end up with stable jobs.
01:48:52.000People with stable housing have their kids able to be able to get to school.
01:48:56.000All of those things in the long run end up saving our money.
01:48:59.000And that's the thing that I think we should be able to find some common ground in, but we can't blame Immigrants for the only reason that's not the case that's happening in many cities the fact of the matter is is that we don't have enough naturally affording affordable housing, but we can make sure that the government's there to help kick-start it create that create that base Governor, your time is up.
01:49:21.000Senator Vance, as far as your campaign's position, the promise is to seize federal lands to build homes, remove regulation, provide tax breaks, and cut back on immigration, which you say pushes up prices.
01:49:36.000Where are you going to build all the new homes you're promising, and what part of any of this plan will provide immediate relief?
01:49:44.000Well, first of all, Tim just said something that I agree with.
01:49:47.000We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does drive up costs, Tim.
01:49:59.00025 million illegal aliens competing with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in the country.
01:50:06.000It's why we have massive increases in home prices that have happened right alongside massive increases in illegal aliens.
01:50:14.000Alien populations under Kamala Harris's leadership now Tim just mentioned a bunch of ideas now some of those ideas I actually think are halfway decent and some of them I disagree with but the most important thing here is Kamala Harris is not running as a newcomer to politics She is the sitting vice president if she wants to enact all of these policies to make housing more affordable I invite her to use the office that the American people already gave her and
01:50:39.000Not sit around and campaign and do nothing while Americans find the American dream of homeownership completely unaffordable.
01:50:47.000Now, you asked, Margaret, what would immediately change the equation for American citizens?
01:50:54.000As Donald Trump says, drill, baby, drill.
01:50:57.000One of the biggest drivers of housing costs, aside from illegal immigration, is think about it.
01:51:01.000If a truck driver is paying 40% more for diesel, Delivering to the job site to build the house is also going to become a lot more expensive.
01:51:09.000If we open up American energy, you will get immediate pricing relief for American citizens.
01:51:16.000Not, by the way, just in housing, but in a whole host of other economic goods, too.
01:51:20.000Senator Vance, you still have 23 seconds there.
01:51:32.000Well, what Donald Trump has said is we have a lot of federal lands that aren't being used for anything.
01:51:35.000They're not being used for a national park.
01:51:37.000They're not being used, and they could be places where we build a lot of housing.
01:51:41.000And I do think that we should be opening up building in this country.
01:51:44.000We have a lot of land that could be used.
01:51:47.000We have a lot of Americans that need homes.
01:51:49.000We should be kicking out illegal immigrants who are competing for those homes, and we should be building more homes for the American citizens who deserve to be here.
01:52:09.000Look, crossings are down compared to when Donald Trump left office.
01:52:12.000But it's again, Blaming and not trying to find a solution.
01:52:15.000I was going to ask on this question, are we going to drill and build houses in the same federal land?
01:52:20.000And I think when people hear federal lands, these are really important pieces of land.
01:52:24.000Now, Minnesota doesn't have a lot of federal lands.
01:52:25.000I know in the western part of the countries we do.
01:52:28.000There's not a lot of federal lands in and around Minneapolis, for example.
01:52:32.000So the issue is, is I don't understand the federal lands issue unless we see this, and I worry about this as someone who cares deeply about our national parks and our federal lands.
01:52:40.000Look, Minnesota, we protect these things.
01:52:42.000We've got about 20% of the world's fresh water.
01:53:08.000Senator Vance, you said you don't like the economists.
01:53:10.000Which economists are saying that it is immigrants that's adding to the cost?
01:53:13.000Governor, your time is up, but Senator, on that point, I'd like for you to clarify.
01:53:19.000There are many contributing factors to high housing costs.
01:53:23.000What evidence do you have that migrants are part of this problem?
01:53:28.000Well, there's a Federal Reserve study that we're happy to share after the debate.
01:53:31.000We'll put it up on social media, actually, that really drills down on the connection between increased levels of migration, especially illegal immigration, and higher housing prices.
01:53:40.000Now, of course, Margaret, that's not the entire driver of higher housing prices.
01:53:44.000It's also the regulatory regime of Kamala Harris.
01:53:52.000But we increasingly have a federal administration that makes it harder to develop our resources, makes it harder to build things, and wants to throw people in jail for not doing everything exactly as Kamala Harris says they have to do.
01:54:07.000And what that means is that you have a lot of people who would love to build homes who aren't able to build homes.
01:54:14.000We should get out of this idea of housing as a commodity, but the thing that has most turned housing into a commodity is giving it away to millions upon millions of people who have no legal right to be here.
01:55:35.000We're going to cover Americans with pre-existing conditions.
01:55:37.000In fact, a lot of my family members have gotten health care.
01:55:41.000I believe, you know, members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least for the first time, switched off of Medicaid onto private insurance for the first time under Donald Trump's leadership.
01:55:50.000And I think that, you know, a lot of people have criticized this concepts of a plan remark.
01:55:56.000I think it's Tim Walz knows from 12 years in Congress.
01:55:59.000You're not going to propose a 900 page bill standing on a debate stage.
01:56:03.000It would bore everybody to tears and it wouldn't actually mean anything because part of this is the give and take of bipartisan negotiation.
01:56:09.000Now, when Donald Trump was actually president, and again, he has a record to be proud of, prescription drugs fell in 2018 for the first time in a very long time.
01:56:18.000Under Kamala Harris's leadership, prescription drugs are up about 7%.
01:56:22.000Under Donald Trump's entire four years, they were up about 1.5%.
01:56:29.000You go into a hospital, you try to buy something, and nobody knows what it actually costs.
01:56:34.000That price transparency will actually give American consumers a little bit more choice and will also drive down costs.
01:56:41.000And we talked about the reinsurance regulations is what I was talking about.
01:56:45.000Look, Donald Trump has said that if we allow states to experiment a little bit, on how to cover both the chronically ill but the non-chronically ill.
01:56:55.000He actually implemented some of these regulations when he was president of the United States.
01:56:59.000And I think you can make a really good argument that it salvaged Obamacare, which was doing disastrously until Donald Trump came along.
01:57:06.000I think it's an important point about President Trump.
01:57:09.000Of course, you don't have to agree with everything that President Trump has ever said or ever done, but when Obamacare was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and healthcare costs, Donald Trump could have destroyed the program.
01:57:22.000Instead, he worked in a bipartisan way to ensure that Americans had access Affordable care.
01:57:28.000It's not perfect, of course, and there's so much more that we can do, but I think that Donald Trump has earned the right to put in place some better healthcare policies.
01:57:36.000He's earned it because he did it successfully the first time.
01:58:15.000He ran on the first thing he was going to do on day one was to repeal Obamacare.
01:58:21.000On day one, he tried to sign an executive order to repeal the ACA.
01:58:25.000He signed on to a lawsuit to repeal the ACA, but lost it to the Supreme Court, and he would have repealed the ACA had it not been for the courage of John McCain to save that bill.
01:58:38.000Now fast forward, what that means to you is, you lose your pre-existing conditions.
01:58:42.000If you're sitting at home and you got asthma, too bad.
01:59:44.000Senator, you have not yet explained how you would protect people with pre-existing conditions or laid out that plan.
01:59:50.000Well, look, we currently have laws and regulations in place right now that protect people with pre-existing conditions.
01:59:56.000We want to keep those regulations in place, but we also want to make the health insurance marketplace function a little bit better.
02:00:02.000Now, what Governor Walz just said is actually not true.
02:00:06.000A lot of what happened and the reason that Obamacare was crushing under its own weight is that a lot of young and healthy people were leaving the exchanges.
02:00:13.000Donald Trump Actually helped address that problem and he did so in a way that preserved people's access to coverage who had pre-existing conditions.
02:00:21.000But again, something that these guys do is they make a lot of claims about if Donald Trump becomes president, all of these terrible consequences are going to ensue.
02:00:32.000But in reality, Donald Trump was president.
02:00:34.000Inflation was low, take-home pay was higher, and he saved the very program from a Democratic administration that was collapsing and would have collapsed absent his leadership.
02:00:45.000He did his job, which is govern, in a bipartisan way and get results, not just complain about problems, but actually solve them.
02:00:52.000Governor, did enrollment under the Affordable Care Act go up under the Trump administration?
02:00:58.000It's higher now that we've seen it go up.
02:01:29.000And when we are able to make it, and we are making it this way, when we incentivize people to be in the market, when we help people who might not be able to afford it get there, and we make sure then when you get sick and old, it's there for you.
02:01:43.000Because I heard people say, well, I don't want to buy into Medicare or whatever.
02:01:46.000Good luck buying health care once you get past 70.
02:02:08.000There is a child care crisis in this country, and the United States is one of the very few developed countries in the world without a national paid leave program for new parents.
02:02:20.000Governor Walz, you said that if Democrats win both the White House and Congress, this is a day one priority for you.
02:02:28.000How long should employers be required to pay workers while they are home taking care of their newborns?
02:03:02.000And I had to go back to work five days after my kids were born.
02:03:05.000This allows you to stay home a certain amount of time.
02:03:08.000What we know is, that gets the child off to a better start, the family works better, we stay in their employers, we get more consistency in that.
02:03:15.000So Kamala Harris has made it a priority.
02:03:17.000We implemented it in Minnesota, and we see growth.
02:03:19.000That's how you become a pro-business state.
02:03:22.000But the negotiations on it, and here's the issue.
02:03:25.000Those big companies are able to offer it, Those of you out there who don't have it, just imagine what happens if you get cancer or your child gets sick.
02:03:37.000In some places, that means no paycheck because you've got no protection on that.
02:03:41.000This is the case of an economy that Donald Trump has set for the wealthiest amongst us.
02:03:46.000He's willing to give those Tax breaks to the wealthiest.
02:03:51.000He's willing to say, bust those unions up, do whatever.
02:03:54.000What we're saying is the economy works best when it works for all of us.
02:03:58.000And so a paid family medical leave program, and I will tell you, go to the families or go to the businesses and ask them.
02:04:05.000As far as child care on this, you have to take it at both the supply and the demand side.
02:04:10.000You can't expect the most important people in our lives to take either our children or our parents to get paid the least amount of money.
02:04:17.000And we have to make it easier for folks to be able to get into that business and then to make sure that folks are able to pay for that.
02:04:23.000We were able to do it in Minnesota and I'm still telling you this, we were listed as the best state, we're still in crisis on this.
02:04:29.000A federal program of paid family medical leave and help with this will enhance our workforce, enhance our families and make it easier to have the children that you want. - Governor, your time is up.
02:04:39.000Senator, do you support a national paid leave program?
02:04:43.000And if so, for how long should employers be mandated to pay their employees while they are home taking care of their newborn?
02:04:51.000Yeah, well, first of all, Margaret, a number of my Republican colleagues and some Democrats, too, have worked on this issue.
02:04:55.000And I think there is a bipartisan solution here because a lot of us care about this issue.
02:05:00.000I mean, look, I speak from this very personally because I'm married to a beautiful woman who is an incredible mother to our three beautiful kids but is also a very, very brilliant corporate litigator, and I'm so proud of her.
02:05:12.000But being a working mom, even for somebody with all of the advantages of my wife, is Extraordinarily difficult.
02:05:19.000And it's not just difficult from a policy perspective.
02:05:21.000She actually had access to paid family leave because she worked for a bigger company.
02:05:25.000But the cultural pressure on young families, and especially young women, I think makes it really hard for people to choose the family model they want.
02:05:33.000A lot of young women would like to go back to work immediately.
02:05:36.000Some would like to spend a little time home with the kids.
02:05:38.000Some would like to spend longer at home with the kids.
02:05:40.000We should have a family care model that makes choice Possible.
02:05:44.000And I think this is a very important substantive difference between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris's approach.
02:05:49.000I mean, look, if you look at the federal programs that we have that support paid family leave right now, the Community Development Block Grant, and there's another block grant program that spends a lot of money from the federal government.
02:06:00.000These programs only go to one kind of childcare model.
02:06:03.000Let's say you'd like your church maybe to help you out with childcare.
02:06:07.000Maybe you live in a rural area or an urban area and you'd like to get together with families in your neighborhood to provide child care in the way that makes the most sense.
02:06:14.000You don't get access to any of these federal monies.
02:06:17.000We want to promote choice in how we deliver family care and how we promote child care because, look, it is unacceptable.
02:06:25.000Of course, Sam and I have been on the campaign trail a lot the past seven or eight weeks, and one of the biggest complaints I hear from young families is people who feel like they don't have options, like they're choosing between going to work or taking care of their kids.
02:06:38.000That is an incredible burden to put on American families.
02:06:47.000You have also said, Senator Vance, many things about the American family.
02:06:52.000The Federal Reserve says parents will spend nearly as much on childcare as they do on housing each month.
02:07:00.000So I want to get your thoughts on this.
02:07:03.000President Trump recently said, As much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it's relatively speaking not very expensive compared to the kinds of numbers we'll be taking in.
02:07:16.000Is President Trump committed to the $5,000 per child tax credit that you have described?
02:07:23.000Well, what President Trump said, Margaret, I just want to defend my running mate here a little bit, is that we're going to be taking in a lot of money by penalizing companies for shipping jobs overseas and penalizing countries who employ slave laborers and then ship their products back into our country and undercut the wages of American workers.
02:07:41.000It's the heart of the Donald Trump economic plan.
02:07:43.000Cut taxes for American workers and American families.
02:07:46.000Cut taxes for businesses that are hiring and building companies in the United States of America.
02:07:51.000But penalize companies and countries that are shipping jobs overseas.
02:07:55.000That's the heart of the economic proposal.
02:07:57.000And I think what President Trump is saying is that when we bring in this additional revenue with higher economic growth, we're going to be able to provide paid family leave, childcare options that are viable and workable for a lot of American families.
02:08:11.000Can you clarify how that will solve the child care shortage?
02:08:16.000Well, because, as Tim said, a lot of the child care shortage is we just don't have enough resources going into the multiple people who could be providing family care options.
02:08:25.000And we're going to have to, unfortunately, look, we're going to have to spend more money.
02:08:29.000We're going to have to induce more people to want to provide child care options for American families.
02:08:33.000Because the reason it's so expensive right now is because you've got way too few people providing this very essential service.
02:08:38.000If you go to Tim Walz's ex-account right now, you'll see that he's tweeting up a storm.
02:08:40.000And you have to ask yourself, how is he tweeting right now when he's on stage?
02:08:45.000I know that Tim Walz does not control his own Twitter account.
02:08:47.000Do you think Congress will agree to the $6,000 credit for newborns and $3,000 credit for children over the age of 6 as your campaign has promised?
02:09:44.000If those members of Congress, I can't believe they're not here.
02:09:46.000When I go to businesses, sure they'll talk about taxes sometime, but they will lead with childcare, and they will lead with housing.
02:09:53.000Because we know the problem is, especially in a state like Minnesota, we need more workers because our economy's growing, but we need the workforce.
02:10:02.000Let's talk about the state of democracy, the top issue for Americans after the economy and inflation.
02:10:08.000After the 2020 election, President Trump's campaign and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting the results.
02:10:16.000Judges, including those appointed by President Trump and other Republican presidents, looked at the evidence and said there was no widespread fraud.
02:10:26.000The governors of every state in the nation, Republicans and Democrats, certified the 2020 election results and sent a legal slate of electors to Congress for January 6th.
02:10:40.000Senator Vance, you have said you would not have certified the last presidential election and would have asked the states to submit alternative electors.
02:10:48.000That has been called unconstitutional and illegal.
02:10:52.000Would you again seek to challenge this year's election results even if every governor certifies the results?
02:11:01.000Well, Nora, first of all, I think that we're focused on the future.
02:11:03.000We need to figure out how to solve the inflation crisis caused by Kamala Harris' policies, make housing affordable, make groceries affordable, and that's what we're focused on.
02:11:11.000But I want to answer your question because you did ask it.
02:11:14.000Look, what President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues, Peacefully in the public square.
02:11:37.000And now, of course, unfortunately, we have all of the negative policies that have come from the Harris Biden administration.
02:11:44.000I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but unfortunately, it's not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz want to talk about.
02:11:55.000It's Americans casting aside lifelong friendships because of disagreements over politics.
02:12:01.000It's big technology companies silencing their fellow citizens.
02:12:04.000And it's Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she'd like to censor people who engage in misinformation.
02:12:12.000I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we've seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years.
02:12:19.000Now, I'm really proud, especially given that I was raised by two lifelong blue collar Democrats, to have the endorsement of Bobby Kennedy Jr.
02:12:50.000She's done it over a number of other issues and that to me is a much bigger threat to democracy than what Donald Trump said when he said that protesters should peacefully protest on January the 6th.
02:13:01.000Well I've enjoyed tonight's debate and I think there was a lot of commonality here and I'm sympathetic to misspeaking on things and I think I might have with the senator.
02:13:11.000There's one, though, that this one is troubling to me, and I say that because I think we need to tell the story.
02:13:17.000Donald Trump refused to acknowledge this, and the fact is that I don't think we can be the frog in the pot and let the boiling water go up.
02:13:56.000So, Senator, it was adjudicated over and over and over.
02:14:01.000I worked with kids long enough to know, and I said as a football coach, sometimes you really want to win, but the democracy is bigger than winning an election.
02:14:08.000You shake hands, and then you try and do everything you can to help the other side win.
02:14:31.000So, I think this issue of settling our differences at the ballot box, shaking hands when we lose, being honest about it, but to deny what happened on January 6th, the first time in American history, that a president or anyone tried to overturn a fair election and the peaceful transfer of power.
02:14:52.000And here we are, four years later, in the same boat.
02:14:55.000I will tell you this, that when this is over, we need to shake hands, this election, and the winner needs to be the winner.
02:15:07.000Senator Vance, did you want to respond to that?
02:15:09.000Yeah, well, look, Tim, first of all, it's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power on January the 20th, as we have done for 250 years in this country.
02:15:24.000We are going to shake hands after this debate and after this election, and of course, I hope that we win, and I think we're going to win, but if Tim Walz is the next Vice President, he'll have my prayers, he'll have my best wishes, and he'll have my help whenever he wants it.
02:15:36.000But we have to remember that for years in this country, Democrats protested the results of elections.
02:15:42.000Hillary Clinton in 2016 said that Donald Trump had the election stolen by Vladimir Putin because the Russians bought like $500,000 worth of Facebook ads.
02:15:52.000This has been going on for a long time.
02:15:55.000And if we want to say that we need to respect the results of the election, I'm on board.
02:15:59.000But if we want to say, as Tim Walz is saying, that this is just a problem that Republicans have had, I don't buy that.
02:16:08.000And I think a revisionist history on this.
02:16:13.000Don't understand how we got to this point, but the issue was that happened Donald Trump can you do it and all of us say there's no place for this it has Massive repercussions this idea that there's censorship to stop people from doing Threatening to kill someone threatening to do something.
02:16:29.000That's not that's not censorship censorship is book banning We've seen that we've seen that brought up.
02:16:34.000I just think for everyone tonight, and and I I'm gonna Thanks, Senator Vance.
02:16:40.000I think this is the conversation they want to hear.
02:16:43.000And I think there's a lot of agreement.
02:16:44.000This is one that we are miles apart on.
02:16:47.000This was a threat to our democracy in a way that we had not seen.
02:16:51.000And it manifested itself because of Donald Trump's inability to say.
02:16:54.000He is still saying he didn't lose the election.
02:18:57.000Will you keep your oath of office, even if the president doesn't?
02:19:01.000And I think Kamala Harris would agree.
02:19:03.000She wouldn't have picked me if she didn't think I would do that.
02:19:06.000Because, of course, that's what we would do.
02:19:08.000So, America, I think you've got a really clear choice on this election of who's going to honor that democracy and who's going to honor Donald Trump.
02:19:19.000We will be right back with both of our candidates.
02:19:22.000That's the CBS News vice presidential debate continues.
02:19:26.000Well, that was quite the cop out right there from Tim Walls, who who said, well, I don't run Facebook when he was questioned and pressured by J.D.
02:19:45.000Vance, talking about how the White House currently has been censoring and encouraging political censorship of conservatives.
02:19:53.000And as we know, you can even pull up the article, you can find it right now, Mark Zuckerberg even admitted that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the White House asked him to censor Trump supporters and I asked him to censor information about COVID-19 lockdowns and COVID-19 vaccines, and so that's not exactly a very good answer.
02:20:23.000Mark Zuckerberg says White House pressured Facebook to censor COVID-19 content.
02:20:28.000Meta boss Mark Zuckerberg has said he regrets bowing to what he claims was pressure from the U.S.
02:20:32.000government to censor posts about COVID on Facebook and Instagram.
02:20:35.000And we all know that January 8th, 2021, a day that will live in infamy in the United States.
02:20:41.000History books, the day that all the big tech social media companies banded together to de-platform a sitting United States President, President Donald J. Trump, who was de-platformed and he was permanently banned on all social media and debanked while he was still a sitting United States President, two days after January 6th.
02:21:01.000I mean, you cannot censor the President of the United States, especially anytime, right?
02:21:06.000But especially while he's still the sitting United States President before transition of power, so...
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02:24:14.000And I'm as surprised as anybody of this coalition that Kamala Harris has built from Bernie Sanders to Dick Cheney to Taylor Swift and a whole bunch of folks in between there.
02:24:25.000And they don't all agree on everything, but they are truly optimistic people.
02:24:30.000They believe in a positive future of this country, and one where our politics can be better than it is.
02:24:36.000And I have to tell you, that better than it is, is the sense of optimism that there can be an opportunity economy.
02:25:43.000She's bringing real solutions for the middle class.
02:25:46.000And she's centering you at the heart of that.
02:25:48.000All the while asking everyone, join this movement, make your voices heard, let's look for a new day where everybody gets that opportunity and everybody gets a chance to thrive.
02:26:00.000I humbly ask for your vote on November 5th for Kamala Harris.
02:26:05.000Senator Vance, your closing statement.
02:26:07.000Well, I want to thank Governor Walz, you folks at CBS, and of course the American people for tuning in this evening.
02:26:13.000One of the issues we didn't talk about was energy.
02:26:15.000And I remember when I was being raised by my grandmother, when she didn't have enough money to turn on the heat some nights because Ohio gets pretty cold at night, and because money was often very tight.
02:26:25.000And I believe, as a person who wants to be your next vice president, that we are a rich and prosperous enough country where every American, whether they're rich or poor, ought to be able to turn on their heat.
02:26:36.000In the middle of a cold winter night, that's gotten more difficult thanks to Kamala Harris's energy policies.
02:26:41.000I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford a nice meal for your family.
02:26:46.000That's gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies.
02:26:49.000I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford to buy a house.
02:26:53.000You ought to be able to live in safe neighborhoods.
02:26:55.000You ought to not have your communities flooded with fentanyl, and that too has gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies.
02:27:02.000Now, I've been in politics long enough to do what Kamala Harris does when she stands before the American people and says that on day one, she's going to work on all these challenges I just listed.
02:27:12.000She's been the vice president for three and a half years.
02:27:16.000Day one was 1,400 days ago, and her policies have made these problems worse.
02:27:22.000Now, I believe that we have the most beautiful country in the world.
02:27:25.000I meet people on the campaign trail who can't afford food, but have the grace and generosity to ask me how I'm doing and to tell me they're praying for my family.
02:27:34.000What that has taught me is that we have the greatest country, the most beautiful country, the most incredible people anywhere in the world.
02:27:42.000But they're not going to be able to achieve their full dreams with the broken leadership that we have in Washington.
02:27:49.000They're not going to be able to live their American dream if we do the same thing that we've been doing for the last three and a half years.
02:28:31.000The first and only vice presidential debate This election is now complete.
02:28:53.000It was a cordial debate of a kind that people mostly say they want.
02:28:56.000You notice here the two candidates lingering on the stage.
02:29:00.000That's quite a difference from the presidential debate in which it was not even sure that Vice President Harris and Donald Trump would shake hands.
02:29:08.000It was a debate in which the line, I appreciate what Tim said about Finland, was one of the many ways in which Senator Vance agreed with the governor.
02:29:24.000On the question of the top of the news today, which is the Middle East and the kinds of foreign policy surprises that hit any president.
02:29:32.000Tim Walz made the case that Donald Trump's Temperament is unfit for any kind of surprise, cited the members of the Trump administration who have attested to that.
02:29:42.000Vance came back and said there were no wars during the Trump administration.
02:29:46.000On the economy, I'll make a political point, which is that what Vance did was something Donald Trump was incapable of doing during his presidential debate, which is repeatedly saying, if Kamala Harris was going to do these things, why didn't she in office?
02:29:59.000Now, whether voters buy that or not, Tim Walz mentioned the Inflation Reduction Act and a variety of others, other items under Biden.
02:30:06.000But returning to that political point has worked in the past for Donald Trump against Hillary Clinton.
02:31:01.000Vance was a lot more empathetic and nicer to Tim Walz than he really needed to be tonight.
02:31:05.000And I think that a lot of Americans miss that.
02:31:08.000But unfortunately, it's really hard to be cordial with the left these days just because they really lack empathy.
02:31:13.000And it's hard to be cordial with a party that is inciting political violence and is cheering when Donald Trump almost took a bullet to the head.
02:31:24.000I think JD Vance did a great job countering the hypocrisy of Kamala Harris and also really bringing back all of the issues to Kamala Harris's policies, whether it was inflation, fentanyl, the open borders, free speech, all of these issues in our country right now, rising housing prices.
02:31:41.000And so I think that overall, JD Vance really He did a great job tonight.
02:31:46.000He showed a side of himself that is really contrasting with what the media narrative has been about his personality.
02:32:27.000And, you know, whether you become VP or I become VP, I'll be there cheering you on.
02:32:32.000He didn't need to be that nice, but he was.
02:32:34.000And it just shows you that the media lies, they demonize Donald Trump, they demonize his supporters, they demonize JD Vance, and they want to make us look like the villains.
02:32:43.000They want to make Trump supporters look like the villains because that's all they have.
02:32:47.000This boogeyman idea of conservatives and Trump supporters being a threat to democracy and how we are supposedly now the biggest terror threat in the country.
02:32:57.000White Christian conservative men Ultra mega conservatives and as you saw tonight it's a load of crap because JD Vance came across not just vice presidential but also very presidential in his demeanor and his tone and also he was very on point.
02:33:15.000You could see that he answered all of the questions and even though the CBS News was trying to fact check him at an eight to one ratio compared to Tim Walz when you look at all the fact checks tonight You can see that he didn't get nervous.
02:33:35.000But when they said, well, you didn't really answer the question about why you were in China, when they asked him to answer the question on abortion, it really threw him off because, well, he was hoping that the media was just going to be on his side the whole time, like a three versus one situation, as we saw with the presidential debate in Philadelphia with David Muir, Lindsay Davis and Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
02:33:59.000And so I was surprised to see that the media pushed back a little bit.
02:34:04.000Tim Walls, of course, just said, well, I misspoke.
02:34:24.000What do you guys think about my assessment?
02:34:26.000I think that I was pretty spot-on in the beginning when I told you he was going to talk about abortion.
02:34:31.000He was going to dodge questions about a nine-month abortion.
02:34:33.000I told you that he was going to try to make it look like he was going to be tough on Iran because they want to hide the fact that Minnesota is now, well, the Islamic terror capital of the United States of America.
02:34:42.000And the fact that he has documented histories and relationships with Hamas operatives, Muslim Brotherhood operatives, ISIS-affiliated Islamic centers.
02:34:52.000Loomer Unleash is definitely leading the way and I was on my phone a lot during this debate because, well, I was working in tandem with Loomer Unleash DC contributor Charles Downs, you should follow him at TheCharlesDowns on Twitter if you're not already doing so.
02:35:07.000And we were reposting our clips because for, well, over two years now, well, we've been confronting all of these senators and representatives about the policies to show you how hypocritical these people are.
02:35:19.000And so make sure that you go back and you review my ex-timeline tonight because, well, you're going to see a lot of the previous statements made by members of the House, members of the Senate, and Tim Walz himself that show you how full of shit he really was tonight during this debate.
02:35:35.000Also, too, let's go ahead and play this clip.
02:35:37.000I have a feeling this is going to be one of the most played clips of the debate tomorrow when people go back and watch it.
02:35:44.000Tim Walls actually said that he is friends with school shooters.
02:37:09.000They support the complete bastardization of childhood innocence.
02:37:15.000And it is very, very disturbing to hear a guy who could possibly be the Vice President of the United States say, I am friends with school shooters.
02:37:39.000I think that that clip is going to come back to haunt him.
02:37:41.000I just saw right now while browsing X that the Trump war room has actually posted that clip.
02:37:47.000And so they're not skipping a beat to remind people of what Kamala Harris's pick for vice president said.
02:37:56.000And now I think she's starting to have buyer's remorse on Tim Walz because the other day, right?
02:38:00.000She goes, oh, well, I had sleep insomnia.
02:38:03.000I was just so sleep deprived, you know?
02:38:05.000So now she wants to say that she has a medical disorder, and I have sleep apnea, and I'm, you know, I have sleep insomnia, and I just don't sleep well, and I just, I was so sleep deprived when I chose Tim Walz.
02:39:13.000So she's pissed off a lot of these Democrats who are pro-Israel and Jewish.
02:39:17.000And then she also has pissed off a lot of the Palestinian rioters.
02:39:21.000And I'm not saying that the Palestinian rioters agree with Donald Trump, but there are a lot of Muslims out there who don't want their kids to be indoctrinated with the LGBTQ agenda.
02:39:48.000And we don't have to agree on everything, but Donald Trump, of course, is the pro-peace, anti-war candidate.
02:39:54.000And that's why you're seeing Democrat Muslims in places like Hamtramck and Dearborn actually cross the aisle and endorse Donald Trump over Kamala Harris, despite the fact that she chose a pro-jihadi, pro-Hamas, Muslim fanatic lover.
02:40:12.000In the form of Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota.
02:40:27.000We're going to take a few more questions from the chat, but before that, I want to take a moment to thank the third sponsor of Loomer Unleashed and our live debate coverage tonight.
02:40:49.000I think Loomer must have squished her because sometimes they have a little bit of rough house play.
02:40:54.000Loomer's 60 pounds and Mecca's 10 pounds and I think that Loomer accidentally sat on her because now her leg hurts and she's in the corner over here.
02:41:01.000I feel so bad for my little baby, but it's too late!
02:41:06.000So the first thing I'm doing when I wake up in the morning is going to the vet.
02:41:09.000But before that, as soon as I log off tonight, what I'm going to do is I'm going to open up my positive medical emergency kit and You know, these kits are amazing.
02:41:19.000With a $15,000 vet shortage predicted by 2030 and emergency clinics cutting back hours, some pet owners are waiting weeks for appointments.
02:41:27.000You may have noticed that there used to be 24-hour emergency vets all over.
02:41:32.000Now, well, it is so hard to find an emergency vet, and sometimes it's life-or-death situations.
02:41:38.000In this case, I think Mecca just has a little bit of a sore leg, so hopefully she's gonna be okay.
02:42:04.000It has gauze pads in here, famotidine, which is essentially like Pepsid for dogs, and let's see, it has a Laura Loratadine, what else does it have in here?
02:42:15.000Antiseptic, medical gauze, all types of emergency supplies here so that you can hold your dog over.
02:42:22.000It's got a medicated charcoal in case your dog, you need to induce vomiting in your dog in case, well, your dog gets into something.
02:42:29.000We all know what that's like when the dog eats a grape or a cashew or a piece of chocolate and you're like, oh my god, my dog's gonna die!
02:42:38.000households now have pets, and vets are struggling to keep up.
02:42:41.000So, what's the number one reason we're all scrambling to get appointments?
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02:43:00.000It's like having a little mini vet clinic at home to hold you over, just in case, well, you can't get to the vet.
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02:43:15.000And if you're not evacuated or maybe you are evacuated, this is big enough and light enough that you could put it in a to-go bag and you could bring it with you when you evacuate your pets.
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02:43:57.000Handle it yourself and then you can make sure that they're cared for when it counts because our animals are like family members.
02:44:32.000You know, sometimes Loomer, she doesn't realize how big she is, you know, and she just wants to cuddle and she wants to go over and play with her, but she's so big.
02:44:40.000Imagine somebody six times your size sitting on you.
02:44:43.000So it's sad, it's unfortunate, but I think that Loomer squished Mecca.
02:47:00.000For those of you who are Jewish, Shana Tova.
02:47:03.000Tomorrow, of course, is the first day of Rosh Hashanah, so I hope that, well, hopefully all these ballistic missiles stop getting sent into Israel from Iran and people are able to leave the bunkers and actually celebrate the new year with their family members because, well, it's terrible what's happening in Israel today.
02:49:24.000I said, well, I know they're trying to be cordial and they're trying to, you know, have a nice, cordial debate, but I was surprised to see how Empathetic and just kind of calm, and I wouldn't say sedated, but just wasn't as aggressive as I thought it was going to be, because personally, I don't think that these people really deserve respect.
02:49:45.000When I say these people, I'm talking about Tim Walz and Kamala Harris.
02:49:49.000They are discussing people who have incited violence against Donald Trump and his supporters, and so I'm surprised.
02:49:56.000But look, I'm not going to criticize J.D.
02:49:57.000Vance for being a nice guy, but if it were me, I definitely would not have been that nice, personally.
02:50:06.000Scroll down, all the way down, all the way to the bottom of the questions, all the way to the bottom.
02:50:13.000Today is also the seven-year anniversary of the Las Vegas shooting, the Las Vegas shooting terrorist attack.
02:50:29.000And of course, we still have absolutely no answers about, well, what happened that day.
02:50:35.000And I wrote about it extensively, and I showed a lot of evidence that it was actually an ISIS terrorist attack, and I wrote about that in my book, so...
02:50:42.000If you haven't already ordered my book, you can get it on my website, loomerd.com, and it's called Loomerd, How I Became the Most Banned Woman in the World, and well, there's actually an entire chapter in my book called What Happened in Vegas, where I talk about the Las Vegas shooting, and let's see.
02:51:07.000And I had a Mohammed cartoon artist, Fosh Fossen, actually make custom-made graphics and cartoons for every single chapter.
02:51:16.000So here is the chapter for what happened in Vegas.
02:51:19.000And so if you want to learn about the Las Vegas shooting, seven years later, of course, well, it happened on October 1st, 2017, then you can read my book.
02:51:28.000Talk about a lot of things in here, especially the Las Vegas shooting, which was a terrorist attack.
02:51:32.000Again, it lumered how I became the most banned woman in the world.
02:51:35.000I noticed that today with, well, all the ballistic missiles being flown into Israel and the vice presidential debate and 35 days away from the presidential election, the seven year anniversary of the Las Vegas shooting really didn't get the attention that it deserved.
02:51:49.000And so I just wanted to take a moment, of course, to remember all of the people who we lost that day on October 1st.
02:51:58.0002017 in that terrible terrorist attack which our government covered up.
02:52:02.000So take a moment of silence for all those people.
02:52:51.000They were protesting me, and the front page of the newspaper, they tried to make it look like I was Adolf Hitler giving a speech, and it was really horrific stuff, but I gave a really great talk.
02:53:01.000It was sold out, and it was a private event, and sold a lot of copies of my books, and Got to meet a lot of amazing patriots in Grass Valley, California, many of whom are traveling across the country right now canvassing for different organizations in swing states.
02:53:16.000So, really amazing to be out there in California and speak to so many patriots, but here you go.
02:53:27.000A handmade sign is held up along the intersection of Brunswick Road and Sutton Way during Saturday's protests at the presence of Laura Loomer.
02:53:36.000They actually showed up to their Board of Supervisors meeting and they really tried to, believe it or not, they tried to get a law passed to ban me from being able to attend or speak in Grass Valley, California.
02:53:48.000So we saw tonight the topic of free speech came up and don't let Tim Walz lie to you.
02:53:53.000The Democrat Party is the party of censorship.
02:53:56.000John Kerry, who was the Secretary of State under Obama, was just speaking at a conference the other day where he said that the biggest problem, the biggest problem, In democracy today is the First Amendment because they, oh, it's so pesky, that little First Amendment that makes you have to uphold the free speech rights and not censor everything you don't like is disinformation.
02:54:16.000Okay, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden ordered Facebook to censor COVID information and censor Trump supporters.
02:54:23.000We know that during the 2020 election, Facebook and Twitter censored the Hunter Biden laptop story and falsely labeled it as Russian disinformation.
02:54:33.000Even though we know that it was admitted as evidence in the Hunter Biden trial.
02:54:40.000So Donald Trump is fighting for free speech.
02:54:42.000Make sure that you download Truth Social as well.
02:55:13.000I'm going to be heading out to San Francisco on October 25th to give an oral argument in front of the Northern District of California for my RICO case.
02:55:22.000So we're appealing that case after they tried to dismiss my case against the big tech social media companies.
02:56:11.000It's a five-part series, so stay tuned because, well, it's going to be a really great, really great docu-series.
02:56:18.000We outline how we are being replaced, so I think you're going to really enjoy it.
02:56:22.000And if you want to support the costs associated with that, Well, you can subscribe to me on X. You can go to my website, Loomerd.com, and make a donation as well, because there's a lot of fees associated with production costs, of course, and we're pushing out content non-stop.
02:56:40.000Let's go ahead and play the promo, and then, of course, stay tuned for two days.
02:56:45.000I guess that's the day of the Thursday show, right?
02:56:47.000So we could even play the promo the day of the Thursday show.
02:56:50.000So we'll play the promo, or the trailer, rather.
02:58:50.000You can do so by clicking the Get Loomer'd button by the bottom of my page on Rumble.com, and that allows you to become a member, a subscriber, $7 a month or $70 per year.
02:59:02.000And you can also subscribe on X as well.
02:59:05.000But that's how you support my work as an independent content creator and an independent journalist.
02:59:10.000With that, I want to thank all of you so much for watching the vice presidential debate with me tonight.
02:59:16.000Make a plan to vote, 35 days and in a few days.
02:59:20.000And already now, early voting has already started in some states across the nation, so please make sure that you are registered to vote before the deadline because there's cutoffs in each state for registering to vote.
02:59:31.000And if you're not going to be in town on election day, November 5th, then vote early, okay?
02:59:35.000Do not miss out on this opportunity to vote, the most consequential election of our lifetime.
02:59:42.000Also be sure that you're following, if you're, I can't imagine that anybody's undecided, but if they are undecided, keep on watching J.D.
02:59:48.000Vance and keep on watching Donald Trump.
02:59:50.000If you go to donaldjtrump.com, we'll go right now.
02:59:54.000DonaldJTrump.com you can click on the events section at the top in the drop down corner and you can see all the different rallies.
03:00:02.000He was just in Wisconsin today and well on Thursday he's back in Saginaw, Michigan for a rally and then on the 4th on Friday he's going to be in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
03:00:13.000On the 5th, he's going back to Butler, Pennsylvania, which of course is the location of where he was almost assassinated by Thomas Matthew Crooks.
03:00:20.000So that should be a very emotional rally where they're going to be honoring those who were shot, including Corey Comparatore, the firefighter who tragically lost his life that day.
03:00:29.000So I know that that event is already sold out.
03:00:33.000When I say sold out, I mean tickets are closed because we'll All the Trump events are free to attend except the private fundraisers and photo opportunities, but you can scroll down and make sure that you get tickets.
03:00:43.000I do know though that the one for Butler, I mean, maybe they expanded it, but last time I checked it was closed.
03:00:49.000Oh, well, they actually have opened it up again.
03:01:01.000It's going to be a great weekend watching President Trump and all these swing states where he's leading.
03:01:06.000But with that, thank you so much for tuning in tonight.
03:01:09.000I hope you all enjoyed the live debate coverage.
03:01:12.000If you missed it, tuned in late, you can watch the replay on Rumble, rumble.com slash LauraLoomer, and also on X. I want to thank the sponsors of tonight's episode again, 1775 Coffee, Brightcore, and Positive.
03:01:24.000Make sure that you check the bottom of the episode on Rumble, episode 79, and that's where you can find all the links for all the products with my special Loomer discount code that gets you, your friends, and your family extra savings.
03:01:37.000With that, thank you so much for tuning in.
03:01:39.000I'm your host, Laura Loomer, and I will see you again this Thursday for another live episode of Loomer Unleashed.
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