EP9: AMERICA FIRST TAKEOVER OF GOP: Will Ronna Romney Resign From RNC? Special Guest Vivek RamaswamyEP9: AMERICA FIRST TAKEOVER OF GOP: Will Ronna Romney Resign From RNC? Special Guest Vivek Ramaswamy
Ronna Romney McDaniel has been a complete failure as chairwoman of the Republican National Committee (RNC) since her appointment in 2017. She has been accused of misusing party funds, mismanaging campaign funds, and failing to support conservative candidates.
00:12:11.000Tonight is a very special episode of Loomer Unleashed.
00:12:15.000For years, the Republican Party has consistently fallen short of its expectations.
00:12:19.000Major candidates, despite receiving substantial financial backing from the RNC, often fail to secure victories.
00:12:26.000Even when Republicans do manage to get elected, they frequently disappoint.
00:12:30.000Across the nation, voters have been yearning for a departure from the recurring pattern.
00:12:35.000They desire an outsider, a disruptor like President Trump, to enter the arena and shake up the system once again.
00:12:41.000Sadly, such candidates are rare, and to make matters worse, many of the party's best candidates find themselves not only battling their Democrat opponents, but also battling their own party.
00:12:52.000Unfortunately, the Republican National Committee, which is responsible for promoting and funding candidates, is led by Ronna Romney McDaniel, Mitt Romney's niece, who has been a comprehensive failure on multiple levels.
00:13:04.000This is a topic I've discussed at length and as many of you know I have committed myself to fighting for better candidates and better leadership.
00:13:11.000So let's begin by taking a look at Ronna Romney McDaniel's record during her tenure as RNC chairwoman.
00:13:18.000Under her watch the GOP has suffered a series of crushing defeats from the 2018 midterm disaster to her failure to combat voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election
00:13:27.000And the RNC's unfulfilled red wave predictions in 2022.
00:13:31.000In many of these elections, the dial could have moved towards victory had the RNC simply provided more support to certain candidates.
00:13:38.000Yet, for reasons unknown, McDaniel has frequently withheld the necessary funds and support to help push these candidates over the finish line.
00:13:46.000Curiously, many of the candidates in question who are not receiving support from the RNC
00:13:51.000Just so happened to be staunch pro-Trump and America First conservatives.
00:13:56.000Worse, the RNC has instead chosen to give nearly unlimited support to deeply flawed candidates who were often barely conservative at all.
00:14:04.000Take the 2021 Georgia Senate runoff, for example, where over $215 million, if you can believe that number, were pumped into by conservative organizations to Kelly Loeffler's campaign and David Perdue's campaign.
00:14:18.000A huge portion of that money came from the RNC itself.
00:14:21.000Both of those candidates were far from perfect.
00:14:24.000They both had questionable ties to Wall Street, with Loeffler being married to the chairman of the Stock Exchange and Purdue being embroiled in an insider trading scandal.
00:14:31.000In spite of this, the money just kept on pouring in, and all the big-name Republican stars were deployed to campaign for them.
00:14:38.000And when voters seemed skeptical, the talking point became, well, just hold your nose and vote for them and, you know, we got to keep the Senate so the Democrats don't get in, right?
00:14:46.000The lesser of two evils line that we're always force-fed, unfortunately.
00:14:50.000And of course, the Senate was ultimately lost to the Democrats and millions of dollars were squandered on two candidates who would have barely governed as conservatives anyway.
00:14:58.000And let's be honest, what have conservatives really conserved in this country?
00:15:03.000Again, this is a complete and total failure by the Republican Party on a national scale.
00:15:08.000And that responsibility falls on the feet of its chairwoman, Ronna Romney McDaniel.
00:15:13.000Then you have the many personal scandals she has been involved in.
00:15:16.000For example, the Trump campaign actually sent a cease and desist letter to Ronna Romney back in 2021.
00:15:21.000A lot of people don't know this, but they sent a cease and desist letter to her because the RNC was essentially bankrolling rhinos using
00:15:28.000Trump as a fundraising tool and raising money off of their claims that they would help combat the stolen election of 2020 which they never actually did.
00:15:37.000There are also allegations that Rana has misused funds for personal matters such as plastic surgery and spa treatments and tonight I'm going to provide evidence of these expenditures so that you can see firsthand that she is misusing RNC donor funds.
00:15:52.000When you consider that the RNC directs the Republican Party nationally, influencing not only fundraising and the allocation of resources, but also setting the agenda and talking points for candidates and elected officials.
00:16:04.000It is the RNC that controls the narrative in an election year.
00:16:07.000It is the RNC that engineers the Overton window on the right.
00:16:10.000Once you realize that, you can begin to understand why the GOP is failing and why certain candidates are ostracized.
00:16:17.000This was summed up perfectly on the debate stage at the recent third GOP presidential debate in Miami, Florida by presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy when he called out Ronda Romney from the debate stage and declared that the GOP has become a party of losers.
00:16:32.000Vivek is right, 100% correct, and I agree with him.
00:16:36.000Just think about President Trump's initial campaign back in 2015 and 2016.
00:16:41.000He had to fight tooth and nail against the RNC and the GOP establishment during the primary.
00:16:45.000The RNC's eventual alignment with Trump was more of a forced concession rather than a genuine endorsement.
00:16:51.000Were it not for President Trump's victories on the campaign trail and his massive base of support, the RNC, then under the control of Reince Priebus, would have gladly backed a different candidate.
00:17:03.000The truth is that the RNC desires to maintain control of the party and of the national narrative.
00:17:09.000And more than that, the GOP appears to absolutely hate their own base.
00:17:13.000And Donald Trump, if you haven't noticed.
00:17:16.000The RNC would sooner have the GOP continue operating as a controlled opposition party rather than a true alternative to the left.
00:17:23.000They would prefer the fundraising dollars continue rolling in unabated rather than risk rocking the boat with a controversial candidate.
00:17:30.000That is why Trump was initially ostracized until they couldn't ignore him any longer.
00:17:35.000That is why countless America First candidates over the past decade
00:17:39.000have been essentially fed to the wolves and left to operate their campaigns with zero party support.
00:17:44.000That is why even now, outsider candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy are literally being attacked by the RNC on mainstream media shows like NBC's Meet the Press with Kirsten Welker.
00:17:54.000Outsider candidates like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and even myself when I ran for U.S.
00:17:59.000Congress in Florida twice as an America First candidate, threaten the balance of power that has comfortably enriched the GOP establishment for far too long.
00:18:08.000Just look at the treatment of Vivek at the third GOP debate last Wednesday.
00:18:12.000By any reasonable account, Vivek delivered the best performance on the debate stage that night while President Trump was just a few blocks away hosting a massive rally for his re-election campaign in Hialeah, Florida at the same exact time of the debate.
00:18:24.000You see, during the debate, Vivek outlined some great America First policies while also going toe-to-toe with the mainstream media moderators Ron DeSantis and the warmongering Nimrata Haley.
00:18:35.000He even rightfully called out the RNC's abysmal track record, describing the GOP as a party of losers and calling for Ronna McDaniel to resign.
00:18:44.000Since that night, Ronna has absolutely lost her mind.
00:18:48.000She's even launched a retaliatory war against a candidate she should be supporting.
00:18:53.000She should be supporting and embracing outsider candidates.
00:18:56.000And instead of taking responsibility for her failures, okay, she has continued dismissing legitimate criticisms about her failed leadership.
00:19:04.000She has even gone as far as saying that people who were attacking her are just chasing headlines.
00:19:09.000And she has decried attacks on fellow Republicans as detrimental.
00:19:13.000And if you're a fan of my show and you've been watching, you know that I am not a fan of Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment.
00:19:18.000And I think that we need to put it in the shredder on high speed.
00:19:20.000Because who needs Democrats when you have Republicans?
00:20:05.000And we especially need it in Washington, D.C., a city so filthy and so corrupt that it seems to corrupt and control everything and everyone within its reach.
00:20:15.000Ultimately, we are running out of time as a party and as a nation to course correct.
00:20:21.000The demographic clock is ticking as millions of illegal alien invaders continue to arrive at our border every single week, and we know that the majority of them are not going to be voting Republican.
00:20:30.000In fact, these people shouldn't be voting at all, actually, since they are illegal aliens.
00:20:35.000But as we know, our elections in America are not secure and the Democrats are actively pushing for illegal aliens to have the right to vote.
00:20:42.000And now, thanks to years of GOP failures, there is a crisis in the GOP and that millions of GOP voters now have voter fatigue ahead of the most important election in the history of our nation and in the history of my lifetime and probably yours as well.
00:20:56.000That is why we as voters and as American citizens must take advantage of the small window of opportunity that we have to reinvigorate and reimagine the Republican Party in the image of America first.
00:21:07.000The only path forward is finishing what Donald Trump started way back in 2015.
00:21:12.000The only way we survive as a nation and as a party is if we drag the GOP kicking and screaming to victory by evolving the GOP into the party of America first.
00:21:23.000There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
00:21:32.000If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
00:22:34.000Tonight on Lumer Unleashed, I am thrilled and honored to welcome Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy to the show as my guest.
00:22:42.000Vivek is the first presidential candidate to appear on Lumer Unleashed, and we hope to have others on as well.
00:22:48.000Vivek was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio, and attended Harvard University, where he received a bachelor's degree in biology.
00:22:54.000He would later attend Yale University to complete his law degree.
00:22:57.000By that point, Vivek had already found significant success in finance through founding his own biotech company, Roivant Sciences.
00:23:05.000On the campaign trail so far, Vivek has been one of the few candidates to carve out a truly America First policy position.
00:23:11.000Aside from President Trump himself, Vivek has consistently been the most articulate and most innovative and most populous candidate in the field.
00:23:19.000He has brought a refreshing, youthful, and outsider perspective to the table.
00:24:10.000I am probably one of President Trump's most vocal supporters, but I give credit where credit's due.
00:24:16.000And I think that your performance the other night at the GOP debate was exceptional.
00:24:22.000I found it to be very inspiring, and you said exactly what
00:24:26.000You know really the GOP base and the MAGA base is all thinking we are sick and tired of failed leadership in the Republican Party and we are sick and tired of the culture of losing and everybody just wants to know right like why do we have people like Ronna Romney and Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell and all these people who hate Trump and seem to hate the America first positions in this country leading our nation and so I I just wanted to
00:24:52.000Because I noticed that since the debate, Rana Romney has launched into a vicious attack on you.
00:24:57.000And I have been calling for her to resign for years now.
00:25:01.000And so, what has it been like since the debate?
00:25:05.000And if you could please tell us what you've experienced since you called for Rana Romney to resign.
00:25:12.000Yeah, I mean, look, it hasn't been particularly pleasant from Ronald McRomney, McDaniel, you know, whatever we want to refer to her as right now.
00:25:48.000How can we be a party that talks about accountability in government if there's no accountability in our own party?
00:25:54.000I'm probably, Laura, one of the chief, probably the main GOP candidate ever that has opposed affirmative action strongly because I stand for meritocracy in America, not race-based quotas.
00:26:05.000But how can I do that to the left if I'm not talking about accountability and meritocracy in our own party?
00:26:12.000How is it possible that Rana Ramani, the only
00:26:23.000person who's the best did to run the Republican Party with that disastrous thing I would have applauded her for do at least if she had the guts to come on stage she was sitting in that third row right there I could see her I called her to look the American people in the eye the GOP voters in the eye and resign.
00:27:34.000And, you know, I can go into some of the further evidences of corruption here, but what it basically reminds me of, Laura, is at the end of the day, she's like a squatter in a rent-controlled apartment.
00:28:12.000If you need a couple of minutes as well, if you need a couple of minutes as well, we can pull up those FEC records because I want to go through these records as well, because, you know, I fact checked everything that you said the other night as well.
00:28:22.000And I already, you know, I'm already aware of it.
00:28:24.000And so while you're reconnecting to a better connection, we'll get that pulled up for the viewers, because I think what you have to say is very important.
00:28:31.000And why don't you reconnect with a computer?
00:28:38.000So in the meantime, you know, Vivek is absolutely correct.
00:28:42.000He's going to he's going to reconnect to a better connection right now.
00:28:45.000But I want to pull this up because, you know, as you know, for those of you who have been following me for years, you know that I've been calling out Ronna Romney.
00:28:51.000I actually wrote and produced a PAC ad in January of this year when she was running for reelection.
00:28:57.000And we're going to get this graphic pulled up on this on the screen from this article, Exclusive Analysis.
00:29:02.000If you scroll up, scroll up to full page of the of the article.
00:29:07.000It's about the money that Ronna Romney McDaniel has been spending at the RNC.
00:29:51.000I mean, what kind of flowers are these people buying, you know?
00:29:55.000It just seems kind of crazy to spend that much money on flowers that die when you could be investing that money into, you know, America First campaigns or some of these nail-biter races.
00:31:11.000And so, this is, you're not lying, right?
00:31:14.000Everything that you're saying is true.
00:31:16.000And it's funny because I did an ad about this, right?
00:31:19.000I made a TV ad that I ran in January of this year.
00:31:22.000Trying to warn people about this, you know?
00:31:24.000Trying to, you know, educate the voters about the wasteful spending.
00:31:29.000And, you know, what is she doing exactly, injecting, going to the spas and injecting Botox into her face?
00:31:37.000Like, don't you think that we would be better off as a party right now if she spent as much time as she does injecting Botox into her face on RNC Dime?
00:31:46.000Injecting money into some of these key races around the country?
00:32:42.000And you want any better evidence of bad judgment of the RNC?
00:32:45.000What the heck are they doing hiring Kristen Welker to actually host this debate when she's been pushing the Trump-Russia collusion hoax for years with no accountability, claiming the Hunter Biden laptop story was false with no accountability?
00:32:58.000So I used that also to turn it on them.
00:32:59.000Didn't get an iota of response other than her staring blindly at me.
00:33:03.000Well, additionally, after the debate, Vivek, Ronna Romney actually went on Meet the Press with her, and then she was attacking you.
00:33:11.000And it was almost this really kind of shocking but telling moment that you got to see, wait, what is NBC Meet the Press and the people that fabricated this Russia collusion hoax against President Trump?
00:33:25.000You got to see in real time how the Uniparty covers each other's asses really in real time.
00:33:32.000And it was just really bewildering and disturbing to see the chair of the RNC, you know, basically going back and forth like, oh, Kirsten, you're so amazing.
00:34:02.000That covered up the FBI working with Big Tech to steal our elections, and so I don't understand.
00:34:08.000Look, I'm a supporter of President Trump, but I will just say I'm not really sure why President Trump likes Ronna Romney, right?
00:34:13.000I highlighted in my monologue that she violated his cease and desist order.
00:34:17.000He literally sent her a cease and desist in 2021.
00:34:21.000I don't know if you're aware of that, when she was deceptively fundraising in his name, trying to
00:34:26.000Say that they were going to use the funds to go after voter fraud and yet for some reason, I don't know, I don't know why President Trump keeps embracing Ronna Romney.
00:34:33.000I think that if we're really serious about getting President Trump back into the White House, and I say that with all due respect because you have to understand, you know, I really respect you and I admire you.
00:34:45.000But at the end of the day, President Trump has a 60-point lead.
00:34:48.000Right now, you are polling nationally at 6%.
00:34:50.000I understand where you're coming from.
00:34:52.000And all I'll say is, I think it needs to be an America First candidate in the White House.
00:35:08.000What's going to happen is if this gets delayed further into next year, then they're going to say it's too close to the general election cycle.
00:36:43.000Well, that leads me to my next question.
00:36:45.000Obviously, Vivek, we know that you have to be, you know, a member of the RNC.
00:36:49.000I think that we need to reform the rules within the RNC because it doesn't really seem like there are many inspiring RNC committee men who want to take that position.
00:36:58.000And so I'm going to ask you this, and it could be a bit bold, but, you know, one thing that you know about me is that I'm bold.
00:37:06.000President Trump is the leading candidate in this race, okay?
00:37:09.000You are an America First candidate, and you are the only candidate that has actually shown respect, okay, to President Trump and his record, and you are also the only other candidate in this race aside from President Trump who's been able to connect on a visceral level with the America First MAGA base.
00:37:24.000And so my question to you is, what is stopping you
00:37:27.000Since you're polling at 6%, and I don't think you have a path to victory nationally to win the nomination, from dropping out of the presidential race, endorsing President Trump, and launching your own campaign to be RNC chair, I think that you would be a fabulous RNC chair, and you could help Republicans get this victory in 2024.
00:37:46.000Laura, look, I think somebody competent should take that role.
00:37:48.000There's different skill sets that we each utilize in different ways.
00:37:51.000I think there's a lot of good people who should take that role.
00:37:54.000I'm in this to reach the next generation of America First conservatives.
00:37:59.000Nobody's reaching young people in this party, and who aren't even in this party but can be, and who cares about the party, this movement, than I am.
00:38:07.000And so I think that's a choice that belongs to the voters, Laura.
00:38:10.000I'm going to be respectful of President Trump at every step of the way, and that's not in both directions.
00:38:15.000At the end of the day, I think it's going to be a choice between two America First candidates.
00:38:18.000I'm doing whatever's required in my part to save this country.
00:38:22.000And that's the way I look at everybody who looks themselves in the mirror and asks themselves, how can I make a maximal contribution to this country?
00:38:30.000I think that as I laid out, as I laid out in my monologue.
00:38:35.000I think that you are a very skilled communicator, and I said that in my monologue.
00:38:38.000I said that you have brought a very vibrant and youthful perspective, right?
00:38:42.000And you are reaching young people, and I think that that's what we need.
00:38:45.000We need an effective communicator, and my question to you is that at what point
00:38:50.000And it's not disrespectful to you because, like I said, I do think that you are, and I give you credit where credit's due, I was there when you showed up to the courthouse.
00:38:57.000You were the only candidate to show up to the courthouse to condemn the weaponization of government against President Trump.
00:39:03.000But at what point do you, you know, divest the resources that you're spending?
00:39:07.000You could be just as effective campaigning on the campaign trail with President Trump and also making the case to get Ronna Romney out so that you can help lead us to victory.
00:39:16.000Because I really do think that you will be a leader in the Republican Party.
00:39:20.000So Laura, I know you're a strong supporter of President Trump.
00:39:23.000As I've said, I'm a big fan of his record for this country.
00:39:27.000That being said, look, I'm on a mission here.
00:39:40.000There are tons of people that pretty much you could take a random person off the street and put them in that role.
00:39:46.000Chances are they're going to be better at that job than Ronna McDaniel has been over the course of the last five years, the last six years.
00:39:53.000I think it would be very helpful if President Trump, and he's, you know, he's a guy who understands the importance of winning next year as well for whoever the nominee is.
00:40:01.000And so yes, I think it'd be great if he also, you know, unlike the other candidates, it's not going to come from anybody else, if he also joined me in saying that this needs to happen, I think that would probably be the catalyst that pushes this over the edge.
00:40:12.000We find some different leadership for the RNC.
00:40:15.000And then let's continue this campaign of bringing other young voters into our movement.
00:40:19.000Young people across this country, and I go to college campuses probably more than any other Republican candidate in the history of our party.
00:40:26.000They're not really... I mean, the establishment media and a lot of the establishment Republican Party are absolutely against America First principles.
00:40:35.000A lot of young people in this country that you might think are on the other side of this, Laura, they're not really.
00:40:42.000And I wanted to get into some of the policy issues because I agree with you in that
00:40:57.000You know, even if you are not the Republican nominee, I do think that you are really connecting with the youth of this country and you're helping them, you know, develop a vision of America First policies that is going to impact our nation and it's going to have a positive effect for conservative leadership.
00:41:13.000And so, I wanted to talk about some of your policy positions.
00:41:50.000You gotta turn off the faucet is step one when you have a flood in the house.
00:41:55.000So I'll go real quick here, but there's a lot.
00:41:57.000We could spend an hour on each of these.
00:42:00.000End birthright citizenship for the kids of illegal migrants and end funding for sanctuary cities.
00:42:06.000Those are the two most upstream important border policies because it ends the incentives that people have here to be illegally in the first place.
00:42:13.000And on the birthright citizenship point, people will cite the 14th Amendment.
00:42:47.000Building the wall is not enough, and I want people to understand that, too, because right now they're building cartel-financed tunnels underneath that wall.
00:42:55.000Also, the southern border is not enough.
00:42:57.000I've been to the northern border, which is wide open.
00:42:59.000If anything, the minimum has to be build both walls, not just build one wall.
00:43:04.000But we can use our military to seal our own southern border.
00:43:09.000The 200 billion some odd dollars we've now sent to Ukraine.
00:43:12.000How much better would that be utilized in terms of dollar value of resources?
00:43:16.000Protecting our own borders in this country.
00:43:19.000And then not another dime of foreign aid to any Central American country until they've taken care of their part.
00:43:23.000And that's another thing is right now, I want to get your opinion on Mike Johnson, because we have Mike Johnson, who I was opposed to from the beginning.
00:43:31.000I mean, this guy is basically like Kevin McCarthy 2.0.
00:43:35.000And Kevin McCarthy is like, you know, he's like a high school girl who can't get over a breakup.
00:43:40.000He's like attacking members of Congress, you know, in the hallway today.
00:43:43.000I'm sure you saw that story because he seems to have a really... Oh, you didn't see this?
00:43:47.000Yeah, I guess he actually physically assaulted a member of Congress today while walking through one of the members that voted to remove him as Speaker.
00:43:56.000And now he's, you know, denying it even though a reporter, you know, caught it and witnessed it with her own eyes.
00:44:02.000And so you seem to have the Republican Party just melting down.
00:44:07.000I said that maybe we ought to consider, you know, monetizing the dysfunction in the Republican Party and paying down our national debt by turning the congressional daily activities into a reality TV show.
00:44:24.000And you have Mike Johnson who said, and look, I'm Jewish, I'm very pro-Israel, but why is it that as the Speaker of the House your first bill is going to be a bill for Israel?
00:44:32.000And secondly, you said, not you, but Mike Johnson said, that he was not going to support continued resolutions because this is the reason why Kevin McCarthy was
00:45:25.000The people who we elect to run the government, I mean, even those clowns running around in Congress, they're not the people who actually even run the government, right?
00:45:31.000The people pulling the strings are the people in those three-letter agencies.
00:45:35.000I mean, right now, the Remain in Mexico policy that Trump put in place, technically, it's still the law of the land and the good rules on the books, but Mayorkas isn't enforcing it.
00:45:43.000That's one of the main reasons I think it's perfectly reasonable to impeach him, and shame on the Republicans who stand in the way of that.
00:45:49.000But that's actually where the real attack issue is, and that's where the next president can make a difference.
00:45:54.000See, I think this is a mistake that many presidents make.
00:45:56.000They try to drive their legislative agenda through Congress, which is by nature designed to frustrate any person who wants to actually drive an agenda through it, versus realizing that what we really have is a shadow government.
00:46:08.000I mean, I don't want to wage pointless foreign wars that don't advance our interest.
00:46:12.000The war I'm going to wage is on the shadow government here at home, because those three-letter agencies and their bureaucratic staff
00:47:20.000You may have noticed that here on Lumor Unleashed, right, I have a crocodile, and we put the person that is going to be the focus of the episode in the alligator's mouth every single episode, and you may have noticed that that is Nikki Haley behind me, whose face is in the alligator head on the set of Lumor Unleashed tonight.
00:47:37.000That's your buddy, Nikki Murata Haley.
00:47:39.000Yeah, the alligator might be poisoned by all of the... by at least a bad case of indigestion coming if it actually bites and swallows that.
00:48:37.000I think that we are losing our national identity and also I am, as an immigration moratorium, well, former candidate for Congress, I don't think that we need to be importing more foreign workers.
00:48:48.000And so obviously, you know, I find it interesting and I want to get your perspective on this because you are Hindu and
00:48:55.000You know, immigration statistics show that Hindus are generally the most successful immigrant group in our country.
00:49:02.000However, I don't think that that should be a justification even if we are talking about meritocracy for importing more foreign workers.
00:49:09.000If you were ever elected as president or if you
00:49:13.000You know, ran for president in the future again.
00:49:15.000Would you be committed to either completely eliminating H-1B visas or significantly reducing them by cutting them in half or even upwards of 75%?
00:49:26.000What is your take on the elimination of H-1B visas?
00:49:29.000Well, I've said for a long time, for some slightly different reasons, Laura, gut the H-1B system.
00:49:34.000I mean, it doesn't make any sense no matter how you analyze it.
00:49:38.000It's just a random lottery that you do.
00:49:40.000It's also the product of Silicon Valley tech lobbying, where even the people who come here are like indentured servants of the one company they work for that sponsors them, so it's just the product of cronyism and lobbying.
00:49:51.000But let me just say a word about what is the point of immigration policy, and this actually gets to the heart of the worldview difference between me and Nikki Haley.
00:50:29.000So, of course, it makes sense to say whatever the policies are, we could debate what is or is not in the interests of people here in the homeland.
00:50:35.000There's plenty of debate for, you know, this economic interest or that cultural interest.
00:50:40.000But the sole metric should be what advances the interests of the American citizens who are already here.
00:50:51.000And you know, you talked about big tech.
00:50:54.000It's our job to be the global hegemon and the policeman and to actually carry out a duty that we independently have to people in some other place, some random godforsaken place halfway around the world, whatever it might be.
00:51:55.000And I think it's one of many reasons why Nikki Haley and I, you know, let's just say come out on different sides of that debate stage every time we face off.
00:52:05.000Yeah, and you know, I want to play another clip for you as well, because I've noticed this face-off that you've been having with Nikki Haley.
00:52:12.000And today, actually, you know, speaking of big tech and the importation of, you know, these H-1B visa workers that are stealing jobs from young Americans and millennial workers and, you know, people fresh out of college, Nikki Haley said something today that, in my opinion, is completely disqualifying, okay, as a presidential candidate.
00:52:31.000She was on a podcast called The Ruthless Podcast,
00:52:34.000And she actually called for social media verification.
00:52:38.000She actually said, I want everybody's name to be in a database.
00:52:41.000So I'm going to go ahead and play this clip and I want to get your reaction because.
00:52:47.000I think that it's really strange how Nikki Haley has this obsession with her heels being ammunition, and I almost want to start calling her the Social Credit Dominatrix after watching her say what she said today, right?
00:52:58.000I think that maybe her new nickname is, instead of Bird Brain, it's going to be Social Credit Dominatrix because she literally wants to implement a Chinese Communist social credit score.
00:54:40.000I was really happy to see you call her that and you know for you to call her Dick Cheney in three-inch heels and then to also make fun of Rhonda Sanchez's height because I actually had said that on my monologue about two weeks prior I called her George W. Bush in heels and I know that some of your staff I know that some of your staff actually some of your staff used to work for me I don't know if you know this some of your team out of Ohio worked for my congressional campaign when I ran for Congress and so
00:55:08.000Um, so they're always telling me about your, you know, campaign and how much fun they're having on your campaign.
00:55:12.000And, um, so it's really interesting and you're really lucky to have them because they were really phenomenal staffers.
00:55:18.000Sarah in particular in Ohio, yeah, she was my field coordinator and she's a very hard worker, so you're very lucky to have her.
00:55:26.000But I was, like, so excited when I saw you say that because I'm like, this either means that Vivek is watching Loomer Unleashed or, I don't know, I had no problem lending you my joke, though.
00:55:36.000I'll give you credit where credit is due, Laura, but in this particular case, it was just like a quip I came up with that day.
00:55:44.000Somewhere in the ether, but regardless, I just want people to understand the facts here.
00:55:49.000Also, because like putting all the joking aside, this is an individual who has to get the hard facts on the table.
00:55:57.000Is in debt drowning in personal debt as a family when she leaves her time at the UN or a cup of coffee stint at the UN, which he claims is her foreign policy experience.
00:56:06.000I don't know which one's a bigger joke.
00:56:08.000Her time at the UN or the UN itself, but let's put that to one side.
00:56:11.000She leaves the UN in personal debt drowning.
00:56:14.000Somebody who's running for the White House on the credentials of being an accountant to address our national debt problems, swimming in personal debt, but then ends up, in the short stint afterwards, joining the board of Boeing, whose back she has scratched forever during her time as the governor of South Carolina, going to sit on a board of, who would have guessed, Boeing.
00:56:34.000Starts a military contracting firm, Allied Defense LLC.
00:56:38.000She has not disclosed any of the clients of Allied Defense LLC.
00:57:13.000Well, when I ran for Congress, I actually called for a ban on congressional stock trading for not just members of Congress, but also their spouses.
00:57:21.000And I think that this should extend for all members.
00:58:48.000I really want to show you something because, you know, I know your position on wars.
00:58:52.000You're an anti-interventionist and you're not in favor of, you know, the continued conflict in Ukraine and you called out Nikki Haley for, you know, being on the board of Boeing.
00:59:03.000And as we know, Nikki Haley, you call her Dick Cheney and three-inch heels because she's a warmonger, right?
00:59:08.000This is a woman who wants to get us into war and every single time she's on a debate stage with you, she's trying to shame you and say that you don't have foreign policy experience because you don't get as hot and bothered, right?
00:59:21.000Like, you're not getting off at the idea of going to war with Russia or going to war with Iran or going to war with China like she is.
00:59:30.000And I don't know if you heard about this, but Boeing actually recently announced the creation of a new weapon of war that has been endorsed by Nikki Haley.
01:01:09.000Apparently, they designed this just for Nikki Haley, I'm told.
01:01:13.000Yeah, well, I think they've designed their board seat just for Nikki Haley, too.
01:01:18.000After years of scratching their back as the governor.
01:01:23.000I'm just really glad that she has a seat to sit in because walking in heels is really painful.
01:01:28.000It really causes lower back pain and knee pain and you got to sit down after a while, so I'm glad she's got that board seat.
01:01:35.000You know, and it's interesting when you say this, Laura, because people then attack me afterwards saying, oh, are you being gendered or whatever in your criticism of her?
01:02:22.000So she talks about her foreign policy experience.
01:02:24.000The only place it shows up is in her bank account.
01:02:26.000But the fact of the matter is I'm critical of Biden for the same thing.
01:02:29.000Biden sold off our foreign policy to make their family rich.
01:02:32.000That $5 million bribe to Hunter Biden was wrong.
01:02:35.000And it's interesting that I'm the only person among the Republican presidential candidates expressly identifying the fact that one of the reasons we're forking over hundreds of billions of dollars of your money, our money, to Ukraine is that Hunter Biden made money off of it.
01:02:49.000But now you know why the other Republican candidates like Nikki Haley can't say it is that they're guilty of the same thing in return.
01:02:55.000So I don't know which political party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the other.
01:02:59.000Both of them are wholly owned subsidiaries of Boeing.
01:03:01.000Nikki Haley is an offshoot and a spinoff of Boeing.
01:03:04.000I don't think that this is the class of leader that should be deciding whether to send your sons and daughters to go die fighting somebody else's war.
01:03:26.000Well, she's also just not a loyal person.
01:03:28.000I mean, I think that merit matters, and honestly, I'm a woman, and maybe they'll rag on you for saying it, but let me be the first to say, as an America First millennial woman,
01:03:47.000I'm really not that crazy about the idea of having a female president.
01:03:51.000I mean, I don't understand what the obsession is, you know?
01:03:55.000It's not that I'm opposed to women being in politics.
01:03:59.000Obviously, I ran for office myself, but why is there such an obsession about, oh, she's wearing heels, she's wearing clothes, like trying to draw so much emphasis to her gender.
01:04:15.000And so she tries to have it both ways, leaning into that identity politic vision while instead also criticizing the left when they do the same thing.
01:05:00.000I've learned from experiences in my life.
01:05:02.000As a country, we have to learn experiences in our nation's life.
01:05:05.000You cannot, with an America First vision, staff key positions with people who are fundamentally the ghosts of Dick Cheney showing up in new clothing.
01:05:15.000And whether that's John Bolton, whether that's Nikki Haley,
01:05:18.000We have to cleanse our movement of the kinds of people who are fundamentally antithetical to exclusively advancing American interests.
01:05:28.000I believe that President Trump's going to be the nominee, but just because, you know, I am interested in knowing your positions on this, I want to just ask you a couple rapid-fire questions.
01:05:36.000You can say yes or no as well, or if you want to elaborate, you can.
01:05:40.000I'm actually enjoying this conversation quite a bit.
01:06:02.000If the Deep State is successful in stealing the nomination from President Trump and locking him up in this witch hunt, would you pardon President Trump on day one if you somehow secured the nomination and became president?
01:06:31.000Yeah, I mean, you talk about any peaceful J6 protester who has had the law weaponized, applying a different standard of law when people across this country who are of different political persuasions were not prosecuted for the same actions.
01:07:06.000You've been a great sport coming on and I appreciate it because you obviously follow me on Twitter.
01:07:10.000You know that I'm a diehard Trump supporter.
01:07:13.000That's not going to change anytime soon.
01:07:16.000And like I said, I don't see a path to victory, but I admire the fact that you are passionate, you're an outsider, and you are shaking things up and you are inspiring change in the GOP.
01:07:26.000When the time comes and you do eventually drop out or you allow for this process to continue,
01:07:31.000Will you be endorsing President Trump and campaigning with him on the campaign trail if he is the nominee?
01:07:37.000Because we've seen people like Tim Scott drop out, we've seen Mike Pence drop out, and others who are, you know, not committed to supporting Trump.
01:07:43.000But will you commit on this show to, you know, when this race is over, if you are not the nominee and Donald Trump is, will you campaign with him and fully endorse him?
01:07:52.000The scenario you just laid out, yes, absolutely.
01:07:55.000Now I expect the same in return if I'm the nominee and he and I have a good relationship of mutual respect because neither of us came out of this morass of broken politicking and the broken corrupt system we have.
01:08:06.000But no doubt about it, I will have 150% my support if he's the nominee and I'm confident I would get the same in return if I'm the nominee as well.
01:08:16.000He said the other day when I was in Hialeah, he recognized me actually from the debate stage and he said, he goes, how could you not like Vivek?
01:08:25.000And I saw actually behind the stage, you know, when I had the pleasure of being able to say hello to President Trump, I saw how, you know, you were there at the Florida Freedom Summit this last weekend where I was, you know, confronting.
01:08:38.000I didn't want to interrupt you because you were, you were talking to people and you were talking to President Trump.
01:08:41.000Uh, but, but, I, I, he has a mutual respect for you and that is something that, that is why I invited you on the show and that is why I've maintained respect for you, even if, you know, I, like I said, I'm a diehard Trump supporter and I will be supporting President Trump because I really respect the fact that you've kept your principles and that even though you're running for the same seat as President Trump, you have enough integrity, Vivek.
01:09:06.000You have enough integrity to stand up for President Trump, admit that he's the greatest president we've ever had in this country, and to condemn weaponized government.
01:09:17.000You earned my respect outside of that Miami courthouse when you held your press conference, and I tried to give you my bullhorn, of course.
01:09:24.000You showed up to enemy territory, and when I say enemy territory, I'm talking about you came to a rally that was mostly Trump supporters, you knew that these people were not going to vote for you, but you still showed up, and I think you've got big balls.
01:09:38.000I love an outsider, and even if I'm not going to necessarily vote for you, you have my respect, Vivek, because you are an outsider, and you call it like it is, and you are a disruptor, and we need more disruptors in the Republican Party.
01:09:52.000You've been very generous with your time and I want to just give you a minute if you have any last thoughts or any last comments where people can follow you.
01:10:00.000I like to just keep it pretty fluid and so that's why I enjoyed this conversation.
01:10:04.000And just to close out that point about Trump, I mean the funny, the thing that irritates the hell out of me about the other candidates in this race is that they have actually for years been licking his boot for favors from money to endorsements.
01:10:15.000And then now are going after Monday morning quarterbacking some small decision he made that they can sort of use to their advantage.
01:10:23.000By contrast, for me, I haven't been licking President Trump's boot for years.
01:10:27.000I've been building businesses of my own.
01:10:28.000I've been living, fighting against BlackRock and building Strive to compete against them, doing all the things I've been doing.
01:10:34.000But that gives me a special, I would say, passion for standing up now for what's right, because what they're doing to President Trump
01:10:42.000I mean, what they do to Trump today, they're doing to the rest of the America First movement tomorrow, right?
01:10:46.000So that's actually what I'm standing up for.
01:10:49.000And so, you know, I, to be honest with you, would rather speak the truth and my convictions and lose some election than to win by playing some political snakes and ladders.
01:10:58.000And so that's why when you ask me, what's your path?
01:11:00.000I don't do, I'm not, I'm not in the game of being some sort of political horse race analyst.
01:11:05.000My job in this is to let the people of this country, and I get it that I'm new, that's fine.
01:11:23.000But at the end of the day, America First, and I think this is one important thought in closing, Laura, for your audience, because I think this, it is important, right?
01:11:31.000Whether the America First movement, Donald Trump passes on that torch in 2024 or it's in 2028,
01:11:38.000Either way, this movement needs to live for decades yet to come in driving the future of this country.
01:11:45.000And so I think we need to all embrace the attitude that America First does not belong to any
01:11:52.000One man, not to me, not to Trump, not to Reagan, not to George Washington, which is actually where it began.
01:11:58.000It belongs to you, to us, to we the people of this country.
01:12:02.000And it better be continuing for decades, if not centuries to come.
01:12:06.000And I want to think on the timescales of history, not just the timescales of tomorrow.
01:12:10.000Now we got to deal with the problems we have tomorrow in order to ever get there.
01:12:14.000But I just want to keep that mentality alive, too.
01:12:17.000At the age of 38, I hope my best days are still ahead of me.
01:13:43.000We already know from his interview, as I mentioned, while I was questioning him, he was on Patrick Bette Davis Show the other day, and he said that he wouldn't even want to be VP because he's not a plan B kind of guy.
01:14:04.000But he was very honest about his intentions in that, well, let's just go ahead and play this clip so that you know.
01:14:12.000He's not trying to audition for the position of VP like some people have said, because I know some people in the chat said, oh, Laura, it's just 3D chess.
01:15:57.000When you're guided by your mission and purpose, you set out, and you accomplish Plan A, and if you fail, then you figure it out then.
01:16:06.000But I'm not a guy who has, I'm not saying this boastfully, but I've built successful businesses, right?
01:16:11.000I've built a multi-billion dollar company that got multiple drugs approved through a broken bureaucratic FDA process, challenged BlackRock, built business.
01:16:19.000I'm 38 years old, I'm running for president right now.
01:16:22.000My wife didn't get to where she is by a successful surgeon, lived her version of the American dream, one of the best in the world at what she does.
01:16:28.000We made this commitment together as a family, an immense sacrifice with one purpose in mind.
01:16:35.000That's just a step along the way to reviving this country and our national soul.
01:16:40.000That's what we're dedicating the next phase of our life to.
01:16:45.000So we didn't do that to pursue a plan B path along the way.
01:16:49.000And so I think it would be fake to just sort of say, under any scenario, I'm not gonna run in 2028 or I'm not gonna, you know, if I don't win or whatever, I just am not
01:18:09.000I don't really see anybody right now, honestly, who is worthy of carrying President Trump's torch.
01:18:16.000But we do, if we are going to preserve our country and transform, as I said, the GOP into an image of America first, we do need to start investing time and resources into more inspiring candidates that are talking about conversations like this.
01:18:31.000People like Vivek who, you know, could be an alternative for 2028, right?
01:18:36.000And so I found it to be very valuable conversation and you see Nikki Haley is in the alligator head tonight because it really interesting story today over the weekend.
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01:25:57.000So we spoke to The Vague about this report, right?
01:26:02.000And we have a lot to get through tonight, but we saw this ridiculous report that shows the RNC spent millions on private jets, limos, luxury retreats, and Broadway shows under Ronna Romney.
01:26:14.000One thing I will say is that I love President Trump, but at the same time, it's time for President Trump to also call for Ronna Romney to resign.
01:26:22.000I love President Trump, but I also wish that he would have been more forceful about McCarthy.
01:26:26.000It's great that, you know, he eventually ended up, you know, slamming Tom Emmer and retweeted my post, or reposted on True Social, rather, the post in which I slammed McCarthy, but I wasn't too fond of the fact that President Trump endorsed Kevin McCarthy in January, okay?
01:26:41.000What President Trump has to understand, and I think he does understand this because he's a very intelligent man, he's brilliant, really a genius, is that these people are not his friends, right?
01:27:41.000She should be calling for an end to this stupid primary.
01:27:44.000President Trump's campaign issued a statement a couple weeks ago calling on the RNC to actually end this primary, calling on the RNC to stop allocating resources to these ridiculous primary debates and instead rally behind the one candidate that is actually, you know, capable of winning.
01:28:02.000And that's President Donald Trump, okay?
01:28:04.000And so, the fact that she hasn't, and she's had a two-week grace period to do so, is disqualifying.
01:28:10.000And I think that, you know, Trump's got to give her the Trump treatment.
01:28:45.000Okay, let's pull this report up here and you can see back exclusive analysis report shows RNC spent millions on private jets.
01:28:53.000So we showed you this in the beginning, right?
01:28:55.000I don't want to harp on it too much because we went over it with Vivek.
01:28:59.000If you're just tuning in, you can watch the beginning of the episode and you can see for yourself, you know, the graphic that I that I highlighted, okay?
01:29:08.000There's another report that shows from Alternet that shows Ronna McDaniel's hair and makeup have cost GOP donors nearly $100,000.
01:29:20.000So, you know, we know that we're in November right now and Botox only lasts about every three months or so if you get it done at a, you know, a good place.
01:29:28.000At the rate that she's injecting it though, I don't know.
01:29:31.000I don't know what kind of work she gets done.
01:30:09.000But when you're spending over $100,000 of donor money, and you're showing up to NBC Meet the Press looking like you just walked out of Neiman Marcus on a shopping spree, okay, with an RNC credit card, that's just not okay!
01:30:22.000Every time I see this lady, she dresses nicely.
01:30:27.000I do like the blazers that she wears, and I like the expensive looking suits, and I do like the, you know, the very kind of preppy style that she has.
01:30:50.000Literally, we have the receipts that show that, uh, yeah.
01:30:54.000She spent over $100,000 on her hair and makeup, and also over $64,000 on clothes.
01:31:00.000So she's spending a lot of money, and it's not her money, okay?
01:31:03.000Because if you do the math, it exceeds her yearly salary of $400,000.
01:31:07.000She's spending the money from the RNC to live the high life, okay?
01:31:12.000She wants to be treated like Republican royalty, and you know, you can put lipstick on a pig all you want, but at the end of the day, it's still a pig boo-boo, okay?
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01:32:52.000I had a couple questions actually lined up that some of the audience members sent in about his pharmaceutical company and also whether Rana Romney's claims that he voted for Obama were true or not.
01:33:04.000But he said that he had to go and so he did say that he'll finish the conversation another time and
01:33:09.000And so I think that it was a fair interview.
01:33:11.000I think that I asked him a lot of questions.
01:33:15.000And I asked him to come on last week and it's very hard to get people to come on, especially politicians.
01:33:21.000You know, these people are not really known for doing unscripted interviews, let alone live interviews, okay, with independent journalists.
01:33:28.000And it's not like I have made myself seem any bit neutral, okay?
01:33:49.000I got to see President Trump at the rally in Hialeah, and he gave me a shout-out, and so I wanted to share this photo with you because President Trump
01:34:18.000I thought I was going to be underdressed because I was going to a rally in Miami where it was 90 degrees and I'm like, I'm not getting dressed up.
01:34:51.000I try my best to do my 10,000 steps today and get to the gym, but I am so busy pumping out content and trying to get the best guests for you guys so that you can get two of these Loomer Unleashed shows per week that I haven't had time to go do my full workouts even though I really want to.
01:35:09.000But I, you know, I eat healthy and I drink my Field of Greens, which keeps me on track because I'm not eating heavy at night.
01:35:15.000We do the show late at night, and if you want to lose weight, I do intermittent fasting as well.
01:35:19.000I don't really like eating after 8 p.m.
01:35:22.000I will occasionally if I'm super hungry and I've had a long day.
01:35:25.000But for the most part, I really try to watch what I eat because you gotta stay fit.
01:36:15.000I appreciate that you are correct and that he was honest.
01:36:21.000We need a central place where we can link to campaign donation pages of Laura Loomer, Donald Trump, endorsed candidates who support America First policies in Congress.
01:36:28.000Well, I do not really endorse a lot of people.
01:36:32.000I've endorsed President Trump, I've endorsed Carrie Lake, and there's not really a huge list of candidates who I've endorsed because the reality is most of these candidates are not that great.
01:37:19.000I think it's called Bring It On, right?
01:37:21.000Where you have the cheerleaders and they're like,
01:37:23.000Like, uh, I don't even know the cheers, right?
01:37:26.000But if I was a cheerleader, really, if I was a cheerleader and I was gonna dress up and I was gonna wear one of those cute little outfits and get the little pom-poms, I'd be like, BE.
01:37:48.000We have to be aggressive and so you're right.
01:37:52.000I'm 24-7 because I have a sense of urgency and everybody needs to develop a sense of urgency in this country because look at how screwed up the Republican Party is.
01:38:01.000I tried getting Vivek to give me his comments tonight on Speaker Johnson because as we saw today, unfortunately, okay, they passed in the House a continued resolution
01:38:12.000So, so much for Speaker Johnson's claims that we're not going to have a continued resolution.
01:38:19.000So, yeah, he endorsed President Trump, but I don't want him dirtying President Trump's name up by saying, oh, the day that I'm going to support a continued resolution is the same day that I'm going to also endorse President Trump.
01:38:34.000So, well, yeah, President Trump probably wouldn't be in support of a continued resolution.
01:38:39.000He made that very clear when Kevin McCarthy was pushing for a continued resolution.
01:38:44.000So, I'm really not happy about that because, again, it's like these Republicans who, you know, are weak and they don't want to actually take a stand.
01:38:53.000They don't have the balls to issue a government shutdown.
01:38:55.000They're literally trying to use President Trump as a human shield.
01:39:34.000I I should have gone on that date I should have asked her out.
01:39:37.000I should have you know asked for a raise I should have Whatever right like things that people think about when they look back in their life, and they're like damn You know I wish I would have done that
01:39:50.000It's like when you're on Rumble one night and you're scrolling on the feed and you see that girl you rejected and then you're like, wow, I really should have really taken that Laura Loomer girl more seriously.
01:40:01.000Look at her hanging out with Trump and she's got her own show now, right?
01:40:05.000Or, you know, that nerdy guy in high school that everybody wanted to make fun of who's now, I don't know, maybe a leader of a biotech company running for president?
01:42:22.000I had Dave Williams, who's the chair of the Colorado GOP on my show, and we were talking about this effort in Colorado to remove President Trump from the ballot.
01:42:32.000Yes, this was episode 6, Soros corrupt Colorado courtroom plot to remove Trump from the 2024 ballot.
01:42:39.000You want to go and re-watch this episode if you haven't already watched it, okay?
01:42:42.000Because tomorrow is the closing arguments in this case, and it's going to set a precedent.
01:42:47.000We need to see what's going to happen.
01:42:49.000Because if these Soros-funded radical leftists from Crewe are successful tomorrow in getting President Trump removed from the ballot, or if this judge, rather, because it's not like it's going to happen tomorrow, if the judge in the case who was appointed by the Trump-hating governor of Colorado rules against President Trump, this is going to go to the Supreme Court, okay?
01:43:21.000So a group of six Colorado voters filed a lawsuit in September seeking to bar Trump from Colorado's 2024 presidential ballot, arguing that he's ineligible to hold office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
01:43:32.000The Civil War-era clause prohibits anyone who took an oath to uphold the Constitution and then engage in an insurrection.
01:43:38.000So you have these ridiculous Soros-funded leftists that are arguing that, you know, President Trump incited an insurrection and that he shouldn't be allowed to
01:46:06.000And then, of course, on Thursday, we're back to another episode of Lumiere Unleashed, which is going to be great.
01:46:12.000There's going to be a lot to report on, of course, because we're going to know what ends up happening, right?
01:46:16.000We're going to have the closing arguments in President Trump's case in November.
01:46:21.000And obviously, President Trump's family is back in court this week.
01:46:26.000We've been following the civil fraud trial and exposing Arthur Ngoron, this leftist corrupt judge in New York City.
01:46:35.000Obviously, President Trump's attorneys have announced that they're probably going to be pushing for a mistrial and I wouldn't even be surprised if it's because of the information that we revealed here on Lumar Unleashed and after, this is very important, after the release of my information about Arthur Ngoron and his wife, okay, you actually had
01:47:33.000You get to talk with me and communicate with me.
01:47:36.000And where are you going to get this information?
01:47:38.000They're certainly not talking about it on the mainstream media, you guys.
01:47:44.000Elise Stefanik files ethics complaint against judge in Trump civil fraud trial.
01:47:48.000The senior House Republican and close Trump ally accused Judge Arthur N. Goron of, quote, weaponized lawfare against the former president and called on the judge to recuse himself.
01:47:57.000When your wife is posting things like F Trump and, you know, is like posting memes of you in an orange jumpsuit and your children in orange jumpsuits saying that you're all gonna spend the rest of your life in prison, it's time for you to recuse yourself, okay?
01:48:12.000It's a violation and it's just not acceptable.
01:48:35.000Maybe, maybe, maybe we should look into the trans movement.
01:48:39.000You know, I'm a firm believer that there's two agendas, but if stapling a pair of balls to the legs of these male members of Congress will do our country some good, maybe we ought to reconsider.
01:49:06.000Interesting that you mentioned Gavin Newsom.
01:49:08.000If you go to Loomerd.com, go to Loomerd.com right now, you can see one of the top stories is Biden and Newsom host Xi Jinping in San Francisco for the AIPAC CEO Summit.
01:49:22.000I have not seen any reporting on this today except for my site.
01:49:26.000Tuesday, today marks the beginning of the APEC CEO Summit in San Francisco, California.
01:49:30.000So, this is so funny to me because you may have seen this week that Gavin Newsom was like, oh, we gotta clean up the streets of San Francisco, and we gotta clean up all the shit from the homeless people, and we gotta clean up all the homeless encampments, and people are like, why all of a sudden are you cleaning up?
01:50:43.000But it's also true, for months and months and months prior to APEC, we've been having different conversations.
01:50:52.000You know, uh, folks are, uh, are wondering why, um, Hair Gel Hitler, as I like to call him, that's my nickname for Gavin Newsom, Hair Gel Hitler, okay?
01:51:02.000Folks are, uh, wondering why, uh, Hair Gel Hitler doesn't really want the residents of San Francisco to be able to walk the streets without stepping in, uh, human defecation, and, uh, why we, uh, why we, uh, won't clean up all the needles, but, but you know, uh, uh, the secret's out.
01:51:21.000All right, the secret's out, and Joe Biden has Alzheimer's, and I'm going to be taking over.
01:51:26.000I'm going to be taking over running for president on the Democrat ticket.
01:51:30.000And because Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are bankrolled by the Chinese Communist Party, and we all know that because the FBI did such a good job at covering up the Hunter Biden laptop scandal, yeah, we have to have a transition of power and an official ceremony in front of the global elites in San Francisco, in front of Xi Jinping, who is going to be backing my campaign.
01:52:16.000I don't know if you saw today, but Joe Biden was like running around and he was completely stumbling and was turned around and had like a total Alzheimer's episode.
01:52:51.000Biden is the de facto host leader of APEC 2023.
01:52:55.000He's joined by First Lady Jill Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff.
01:53:02.000Just a few speakers for the event include the Pfizer CEO, so we know what this is all about, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, Johnson & Johnson Executive, and Vice President Catherine Wangel, Council on Foreign Relations President Michael Froman, Google CEO Sundar Pichai, Google CEO Satya Nadella,
01:53:25.000So, okay, there was a report that came out a week or so ago that showed that Obama was actually pressuring, I'm sure that we could get this report pulled up, Obama was actually pressuring the Biden administration to be more invested into AI and was directing the administration's efforts in getting involved in AI.
01:53:43.000Which is really scary now that we know that AI is being programmed to basically be anti-conservative, to be anti-Trump, and here it is.
01:53:51.000Biden quietly tapped Obama to help shape his AI strategy.
01:53:54.000Well, yeah, I don't really think it was so quiet because we all know that this is Obama's third term, okay?
01:54:00.000Everybody knows that it's Barack Hussein Obama who's calling the shots right now, so that's not exactly quiet.
01:54:18.000Representatives from Visa, MasterCard, and Citibank.
01:54:20.000We know that there's been massive efforts to debank conservatives and to deplatform conservatives, okay?
01:54:27.000It's kind of like this whole World Economic Forum type setup where you have all these global elites and New World Order representatives that have just gathered to have a meeting in probably one of the filthiest and most corrupt cities in America, San Francisco, okay?
01:54:42.000It's a who's who of globalists from big tech, big pharma, and finance.
01:54:54.000And Chinese Communist Party's Xi Jinping is scheduled for Wednesday, and Biden is going to hold a joint press conference with him that same day.
01:55:08.000He'll wait weeks to go to Israel, right, to deal with all the Americans who are held hostage.
01:55:13.000And in fact, he still hasn't announced his plan to deal with all the Americans who are held hostage over there.
01:55:20.000It's really heartbreaking, too, having to watch these interviews every day of the families of these hostages go on TV and talk about how there's been no response and no feedback from the Biden administration.
01:55:31.000And yet he has time to go to San Francisco to rub elbows with
01:55:47.000Another key player in the APEC summit is California Governor Gavin Newsom.
01:55:50.000Again, this is on Loomerd.com where you can read this, you guys.
01:55:53.000Although he consistently denies that he's running, rumors have been swirling that Newsom will be stepping in to run against Donald Trump in 2024.
01:56:00.000He recently went on a foreign policy tour, if you recall.
01:56:38.000This trip to China and he goes well, we got to tear down these walls, right?
01:56:41.000So obviously he's trying to make a political reference when he says tear down this wall But it's really quite unappealing and not very tasteful when you're standing on the Great Wall of China in Communist China We already know that China is increasing their aggression towards the United States of America and you're saying Oh tear down this wall so he's basically giving in my opinion if you want my analysis of the situation of
01:57:06.000It's like an open invitation for China to interfere, right, in the presidential election, yet again, like they did in 2020.
01:57:35.000I'm not really into the womanizers that bang their, uh, bang the wives of their best friends as he did when he was the, uh, the mayor of San Francisco.
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02:06:06.000Would you agree the wall is real and undefeated, generally speaking?
02:06:09.000I don't really understand the question.
02:06:14.000Are you talking about the southern border wall?
02:06:16.000I don't know what you're talking about.
02:07:02.000Are you just tuning in, or did you catch my interview with Vivek Ramaswamy?
02:07:07.000We love Vivek, and we loved the interview, and actually, I called in a couple of weeks ago over Owen Schroyer and him being in Mike Johnson's district.
02:07:20.000Yeah, and you know, I do remember you calling in, and I have an update.
02:07:37.000He called, he messaged me and was like, Laura, I saw the report and I reached out to Mike Johnson's office in Louisiana and he ignored him.
02:07:46.000And so Mike Johnson, not only has he not released the January 6th tapes, but he also is ignoring the lawyer and the counsel for Owen Schroer, who is a very famous pro-Trump
02:07:59.000Who's now sitting in solitary confinement.
02:08:02.000Since the last time we spoke, he's now been ordered to be in solitary confinement by the crooked DOJ.
02:08:07.000So, I think that you would like to know that Mike Johnson is a bullshit artist when it comes to not only just releasing the J6 tapes, but also when it comes to even helping somebody who's imprisoned wrongfully in his own district.
02:08:20.000So, you know, Norm Patus isn't exactly, like,
02:09:10.000And I want to, again, thank you so much for bringing that to my attention.
02:09:14.000Because that clip, when we posted it, Will, it went super viral online and so many people called the office of Mike Johnson, who I'm told now is only taking voicemails.
02:10:02.000You know, just when we thought we had a guy in there with his hand on the Bible, it appears that he's bought and paid for as well.
02:10:12.000Yeah, you know, he likes to talk big talk about the Bible, and he likes to talk big talk about his faith, but at the end of the day, right, thou shalt not lie.
02:10:21.000And if he really is a man of God, and he really is as faithful as he says he is, then he should be staying true to his promises.
02:10:29.000And he did say that he was, you know, a proud evangelical, and he did also say that we were done with the continued resolutions, and yet hours ago, what did we see?
02:10:38.000We saw that in the House they just voted on a two-part continued resolution, which I'm told Schumer and McConnell both approve of, and so I'm sure you will now see the Senate approve this continued resolution, which is of course more money for Ukraine, more broken promises about releasing the J6 tapes,
02:10:57.000Nothing in there about securing our southern border.
02:11:15.00070 Republicans this week voted against an amendment to strip the FBI of $300 million of additional funding that was supposed to be in this budget.
02:11:24.000That is gonna go towards them having, right there, 70 House Republicans vote in favor of funding 300 million FBI buildings.
02:11:30.000So the FBI wants to expand their headquarter office to be larger than life.
02:11:35.000They want it to be larger than the Pentagon actually, okay, which is massive already in itself.
02:11:40.000Why does the FBI need a building structure, a headquarter office that is larger than the Pentagon?
02:11:45.000I really just want to know, why do they need that?
02:12:08.000Okay, I'm not saying be violent, but I'm saying you got to get in their face of the camera and you got to start being aggressive and you got to start shaming these people show up to their town halls and call them out.
02:12:52.000With all of this coming up against Trump, and he's up against a huge wall, and it just seems to get bigger every day, the lawfare is ridiculous, this whole issue in New York and Georgia is ridiculous, and why the courts are now totally refusing any receipts to be laid on the table, which is what I've been just dying for, instead of these judges, we need something by jury.
02:13:19.000But let's just say something does happen.
02:13:22.000And I just loved your interview with Vivek.
02:13:27.000Would you consider asking Donald Trump to throw his support should he decide not to run to Vivek Ramaswamy?
02:13:38.000I don't have... people seem to think that I just have President Trump on speed dial, you know?
02:13:43.000I want to manifest that into reality, right?
02:13:59.000I want President Trump to be the nominee.
02:14:01.000I don't want President Trump to not be on the ballot.
02:14:03.000So I don't really think that that's going to be the situation at hand because President Trump can still run from a jail cell.
02:14:08.000We already know that President Trump can and will run from a jail cell if he ends up getting locked up.
02:14:14.000And I think that every single time President Trump is arrested or indicted or faces any of these attacks in the courts, his poll numbers skyrocket, right?
02:14:22.000He's already up another five points this week, beating all the challengers.
02:14:26.000Um, but I do know that they have mutual respect for each other.
02:14:29.000I asked Vivek tonight, as you saw, to drop out and endorse Trump and to instead run for RNC chair.
02:14:37.000And, you know, I can't force him, unfortunately.
02:14:39.000I'm not a social credit dominatrix like Nikki Haley, and so I'm not going to use the Leto heels as ammunition to force people into doing what I want.
02:14:51.000I do hope that eventually, when Vivek drops out, when he realizes that there's no path to victory, which I think I repeated myself multiple times tonight, I made that very clear.
02:14:59.000I respect his right to continue running.
02:15:02.000I don't want him to, because I think that it's a diversion of resources and attention from, you know, the need to unite behind Donald Trump.
02:15:09.000But he at least has committed to fully support and campaign with and endorse Donald Trump if, you know, the campaign continues and then eventually, like, the process plays out and you get to see Trump becomes the nominee.
02:15:21.000So, you can't force somebody to drop out, but you can ask them whether they will commit to endorsing and supporting Trump, and he did.
02:16:18.000So I want to use these last few moments as well to take a few more questions.
02:16:21.000If you have any more super chats or any last questions, because tomorrow is going to be a very busy day, of course, and I'm going to be debating Dave Smith on zero hedge on the issue of the Israel and Hamas war.
02:17:15.000I'm not going to say the Trump campaign issued this statement because of me, but it is pretty interesting.
02:17:20.000Yesterday the Trump campaign actually issued a statement about the transition team, and obviously Don Jr.
02:17:26.000was part serious, but also at the same time he was
02:17:29.000You know, saying how funny it would be if I was press secretary because I'm such a ball buster, right?
02:17:32.000But the Trump campaign, if you go to my Twitter, you can go to my Twitter account and
02:17:41.000And see this in the media section, probably since I post so much.
02:17:45.000But they issued a statement, and I'm not saying they issued it because of me, but there were several comments made this week like, oh, Laura Loomer should be press secretary, and Mike Davis is gonna be attorney general, and Tucker Carlson's gonna be VP, and it caused the media to go haywire.
02:17:59.000And they were all publishing these reports that went viral and got millions of views about how Laura Loomer's gonna be press secretary.
02:18:06.000And right there, right there, right there.
02:18:23.000Is Laura Loomer really gonna be Press Secretary?
02:18:25.000And I'm not saying that this statement was written because of me, or Mike Davis, or Tucker Carlson, but you saw Tucker at the UFC fight, and this statement came shortly after because the media was just going crazy with the speculation, like, oh, are they already deciding who the VP and the Press Secretary and the Attorney General is?
02:18:41.000And then you had Steve Bannon go on some HBO show and basically, like, affirm, like, definitively, that Mike, uh, Mike, um, Mike, uh, Mike, uh,
02:18:56.000That, that, uh, that he was gonna be, uh, that he was gonna be at the Attorney General.
02:19:00.000So, that, I don't know, his name is, like, slipping, slipping on the, slipping my tongue right now.
02:19:09.000I'll pull up the clip right now and you can see, but Mike Davis, Mike Davis, I think I said Mike Adams, talking about Mike Davis.
02:19:17.000But he had said, oh, you know, there's kind of like contentious interview between Bannon and the guy from the show The Circus.
02:19:23.000I think it's on HBO, if I'm not, or Showtime, Showtime, right?
02:19:26.000And, you know, these guys are very confrontational.
02:19:28.000They approached me when I was at DeSantis' book signing, when I first called them out for trying to run against Trump in this, like, very duplicitous shadow presidential campaign.
02:19:38.000So they show up and they, you know, they try to ask provocative questions, and they're Trump haters and they're leftists, right?
02:19:43.000But they like getting into confrontations on this show that's a political show that they do where they, you know, they travel across the country.
02:19:58.000I'm not saying that this is why Trump's campaign issued the statement, but it was kind of funny because, you know, the media just has no sense of humor.
02:20:06.000And it also just goes to show you like how scared they are of President Trump getting back into office, because if they actually thought that Donald Trump wasn't going to win,
02:20:14.000They wouldn't be writing articles and asking the Trump campaign to issue statements about the transition team.
02:21:20.000They respond to Trump, and they look back at Trump's presidency and say, hey, my wages were higher, inflation was lower, we weren't at wars all over the place, maybe the guy's a jerk, but he's a badass and the world fears him.
02:22:41.000You think somebody that's struggling right now in the economy cares about firing random deep state people, indicting Joe Biden's brother, deporting people?
02:22:49.000Did I say that's all they're going to do?
02:23:15.000But, you know, you know, maybe maybe these people.
02:23:19.000You know, maybe it's good that they feel scared, right?
02:23:22.000Because they should understand the fear that conservatives have on a daily basis if they're gonna get their homes knocked in or get their doors kicked in by the FBI.
02:24:30.000The left just went ballistic, and I think, I'm not saying that that's why Trump's campaign released that statement, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were just, like, so overwhelmed with media requests because of how viral this went.
02:24:42.000I mean, it was on Showtime, it was on Don Jr.'
02:24:45.000's show, it was all over the place, and everybody was just talking about me and Mike Davis, so, you know, who knows?
02:24:51.000The media just doesn't have a sense of humor either, right?
02:24:53.000I mean, part of the reason why, like, you know, this clip went so viral is because everybody knows that Mike and I are both ball busters, right, and they know our style, and that's why the media's freaking out, so.
02:25:06.000We weren't trying to cause any problems for the Trump campaign, of course.
02:25:11.000Yeah, here's another, here's a Yahoo News article.
02:25:40.000You know, we already went over this on the last episode, too, on episode 8, so you can go back and watch that as well.
02:25:45.000You can also read these articles on your own time, but I'm just showing you, you know, how viral this went because the media went ballistic.
02:25:51.000So let's go back to the chat because we're going to take a couple more questions before we end at 11 Eastern because we do have to also prepare for tomorrow's big debate.
02:26:46.000See, if I bring her in, she's gonna be like, I want attention!
02:26:48.000And she's gonna keep on barking, and she's not gonna stop.
02:26:51.000So, I might bring them in one day, and then we can... You know what we were talking about, too, is we were talking about getting a dog cam, and so we're not done designing the studio, okay?
02:27:00.000We were actually talking about getting a dog cam,
02:27:03.000And I said, hey, there's like a bar up there.
02:27:05.000Why don't we put a bar up on the wall and put like a moving camera so that we could have that or maybe there's a way to like put my ring camera, you know, to like simulate the feed from my ring camera so that we can check on the dogs like live on the show since my poor little babies aren't home and waiting for mommy to come home.
02:27:28.000I woke up this morning and Mecca was cuddling with me and then I went out and I wake up and I go on the couch and I sit out there and Loomer sometimes wants to sleep on the couch and so I always give her a big kiss in the morning and I was like, who's a cute little baby?
02:27:40.000And then they jump all over each other and it's so cute.
02:27:46.000I woke up this morning and I went out to go let Mecca out and then she jumps up on the couch and she's licking Loomer's face.
02:30:07.000Special shout out, there's me, Paula Gracia, my friend Mike Crispy, and President Trump.
02:30:12.000So we were all hanging out together the other day covering the Trump rally and it's great because Paul is President Trump's favorite sub-stacker and he's always commenting on Trump's, well Trump is always commenting on his sub-stack so it's very nice, very nice.
02:30:28.000I like hanging out with people that also love Trump.
02:32:33.000Somebody said to me the other day, they overheard me and Mike talking about, and Paul, about how, oh, Laura, you could be an honorary Sicilian.
02:32:40.000You can join our Italian organization.
02:32:42.000Because they actually wrote a letter to President Trump, and they said that he was an honorary Italian, okay?
02:32:49.000And President Trump actually posted it.
02:32:52.000And so he thanked them for being initiated into his organization.
02:33:00.000And this was, you know, something that Paul Ingrassi and Mike Crispy did.
02:33:50.000Baby Rue, you're gonna have to go watch the rerun of this site because Vivek has already been on.
02:33:54.000Vivek was already on tonight, so hopefully you'll tune in.
02:33:57.000Great show, great interview, but obviously a lot of people are busy and have things going on in their life, so this will be available for a replay for everybody that wants to watch it, so don't worry.
02:34:43.000I actually just, I wanted to thank you for that because I have noticed a lot of pushback in the MAGA community and the Trump supporters that, you know, are like longtime loyalists to Trump and things like that.
02:34:58.000And that's the main reason I wanted to call in because I feel like you being very influential with his supporters can maybe kind of think about their perspective.
02:35:08.000So what they've been telling me is he's suspicious because he agrees with us too much.
02:35:13.000And I've seen a lot of pushback because he's Hindu as well, but what I've been arguing is we can't focus on these long-time queer politicians, people like DeSantis.
02:35:24.000We can't try to teach old dogs new tricks because we're afraid of the unknown, and I feel like they're going to sabotage us in the long run if we're all too afraid to even give people a chance.
02:35:34.000So that's kind of my concern right now.
02:35:36.000I've just seen a lot of it, and I'm wondering if you've noticed that.
02:35:41.000You know, look, I think that President Trump has a movement, and obviously I feel very similarly.
02:35:46.000I don't know why people wouldn't like Vivek for being Hindu or anything, but I think that the thing is, it's what I said when I first had him on the show tonight, is that you're not going to change my mind, because I'm Trump all the way.
02:36:17.000He has actually praised President Trump.
02:36:20.000And I think that out of all the candidates, he's the only one that actually really is shaking things up outside of Donald Trump, of course, on the debate stage.
02:36:38.000And then, you know, watch Media Matters clip this clip and say, oh, you know, Trump supporter praised by Trump says she wants to make Trump king of America, you know?
02:36:47.000Look, Trump is so great that there's not a lot of people that are going to be able to carry the torch.
02:36:51.000So, you know, we have this own graphic pulled up here that we often show in the studio here, right?
02:36:58.000But what I'm saying is that we are going to need other leaders that are going to
02:37:03.000At least try their best, although no one's going to 100% succeed in the future of 100% emulating President Trump and his incredible legacy.
02:37:12.000But we are going to need new leaders in the future, and I think that Vivek has a good point.
02:37:16.000Like, we're not going to have Trump forever, and we're going to be lucky if we get him for another four years, and then after that we need to start, you know, molding and shaping the party.
02:37:24.000And so whether that means that Vivek is running now to gain support for a potential 2028 race,
02:37:30.000Who knows what's going to happen, right?
02:37:32.000But we, I think that he definitely, nobody was really able to interject this whole resign Ronna Romney thing into the media as much as he did.
02:37:42.000I tried my best in January and I thought that I did a pretty good job with the media attention I got with the national TV ads I ran, but I'm not running for president, right?
02:37:50.000And so when you have a presidential candidate literally hijack, and I say that with endearment because I like hijacking narratives, okay?
02:38:26.000And I love President Trump, but one of the things that I've criticized President Trump for, and people say that I don't criticize him, and I do, is that he sometimes gives a pass to people who don't deserve it.
02:38:37.000And he's loyal to people who are not loyal to him, like Kevin McCarthy in the past and Rona Romney.
02:38:42.000They are not worthy or deserving of his endorsement.
02:38:46.000And so I'm calling on President Trump to call for Rona Romney to resign.
02:38:50.000I was happy to see that he didn't stand up for McCarthy when we had the motion to vacate.
02:38:55.000I wish he would have been more aggressive in opposing Kevin McCarthy and not have stayed out because I would have loved to have watched Trump chop McCarthy's balls off on a national stage so that he was forced into retirement.
02:39:08.000Hopefully we can do the same thing to Ronna Romney.
02:39:31.000There is something to be said about why President Trump kept on supporting Ronna Romney, and it's time, if we want to have leadership and we want to win in 2024, I would advise, if I was one of President Trump's advisors, I would be saying, listen, President Trump,
02:40:05.000And I feel like Trump, people say he's a narcissist.
02:40:07.000I think he's humble because Trump, a lot of times, he has these people and he sees what's good in them and I think he can't see past it, honestly.
02:40:13.000And I don't think that's a bad thing, necessarily.
02:40:15.000I think it's a good quality that he's a decent human being and he wants to think the best.
02:40:39.000And I like that he didn't come in as beyond meat Trump like DeSantis did, trying to be like a fake version of Donald Trump, thinking that was going to win us over because he was younger or whatever his excuse was.
02:40:52.000I think Vivek is running the campaign that DeSantis should have run, right?
02:40:56.000If DeSantis really wanted to have a political career and he's effectively committed political suicide, he should have run the campaign that Vivek is running.
02:41:22.000You want your president to be a narcissist because if you're going to be the most powerful man in the world, you better be a narcissist, okay?
02:41:29.000You better think that you are the most powerful person in the world.
02:41:33.000Because you have to lead through a position of strength, which is why people are laughing at us right now.
02:41:38.000Because we have an Alzheimer's patient in the White House who doesn't even convey a sense of confidence.
02:41:43.000So I don't think it's a bad thing to be a narcissist.
02:41:45.000I think that it has its pros and its cons.
02:41:48.000I think that Trump is a narcissist and that it's one of the reasons why he's been able to have so much financial success and professional success and political success.
02:41:56.000And so I don't necessarily think narcissism is a bad thing.
02:42:00.000But sometimes when you are a narcissist, you have a hard time
02:42:06.000I would say that he's humble as well like he's not ostentatious.
02:42:09.000He's not He's not for somebody who is a billionaire.
02:42:12.000He's not nasty or he doesn't think that he's above anybody else but but sometimes when you are a narcissist you sometimes don't
02:42:22.000You know, think that people would betray, right?
02:42:25.000You think like, oh, well, they're gonna do to me like I've done to them, just as you said.
02:42:29.000And Trump has such a big heart, right?
02:42:31.000And he's such a genuine person that he really, really expects people to return this sense of loyalty to him when he's also being loyal.
02:42:39.000He said this in an interview with Charlie Rose years ago, right?
02:42:42.000That loyalty is important and that one of the biggest horrors that
02:42:46.000That you could commit against another person is is disloyalty.
02:42:49.000Okay, so I I don't think that Trump is being malicious I just think that you know He he has blind spots at times that are caused by the fact that he is a loyal person who expects loyalty in return But these people are not loyal.
02:43:20.000That's what you're supposed to care about the most when you're a politician.
02:43:23.000And they were acting like this was a negative aspect of him.
02:43:27.000And before I hung up or whatever, I just wanted to say thank you.
02:43:30.000I appreciate everything you do and when I was researching into DeSantis' corrupt background like with his deputy press secretary and the horrible things that he posted about January 6th is how I found you a few months ago and I genuinely appreciated
02:43:46.000So much of what you've done, and my 12-year-old daughter wanted me to tell you that she said hi because I was watching it with her and I told you in the chat, I don't know if you saw it, but she was saying that, how does Ronan and Daniel spend so much money on beauty or whatever, and she still looks like that.
02:44:52.000And do me a favor, too, because I know you texted the number.
02:44:55.000I want to send you and your daughter a Donald Trump Did Nothing Wrong shirt and a signed copy of my book as well.
02:45:02.000So make sure you text my producer the spelling of your name and your daughter's name and your sizes, and I want to make sure that we get some shirts and some books out for you guys.
02:45:15.000And yeah, like I said, I just, I appreciate everything you're doing and that you are so good at telling when people are, you know, genuine.
02:45:23.000That means a lot to me because I've been saying it for months, but I'm a tiny, you know, person.
02:45:29.000My Twitter only has like 5,000 people on it, not like you.
02:45:31.000So it's hard to get that message across to everyone.
02:45:33.000So when you, you know, we're willing to interview this person that's new and try to give them a chance,
02:45:38.000That means a lot to me, because I feel like we have no one right now that I think is even worthy of sitting in Senate, in Congress, anywhere.
02:46:21.000His wife and his kids would love to spend more time with him as well, but he's put his money into this and he's committed to go out there and message, and I think that he really is, even if he doesn't become the nominee, I really think he's doing a service to the Republican Party by condemning the weaponization of government, teaching people the importance of having integrity and principles, like standing up against the weaponization of government against Trump even when you're running against him for the same seat, and also to, you know,
02:46:48.000Showing young people that, yeah, you can be fun and energetic and, you know, it's not just this party of a bunch of old men, right?
02:46:55.000We have youth and we have people with exciting ideas and we're willing to call out the party and we're calling out Wall Street, we're calling out Big Pharma, we're calling out all types of things.
02:47:06.000And I know that some people have said, oh, well, you know, how can he call out Big Pharma and all this stuff when he made all this money in Big Pharma?
02:47:12.000Look, yeah, I think it's a fair and legitimate point, and I was going to bring it up tonight as well.
02:47:58.000He's not doing this for the money, clearly.
02:47:59.000So I think that we have to admire people who have money, like very wealthy, rich people who decide to run for office because, especially when they want to do it for the right reasons, because they could be living a life of luxury right now.
02:48:13.000But if they're trying to use their platform and their money to change things for the betterment of our country, I think that's something we have to respect, even if we're not voting for Vivek.
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