Louder with Crowder - #101 FAT-SHAME BARBIE! Jordan Peterson, Gavin McInnes and Michelle Malkin | Louder With Crowder

00:00:03.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.

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00:00:08.000 Civility?

00:00:09.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

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00:00:14.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:00:17.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:00:19.000 If you have a very unhealthy body, you should have a horrible body image.

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00:01:00.000 I'm your host, Stephen Kreider.

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00:01:03.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is my producer, Jared, who is not gay.

00:01:08.000 Nope.

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00:01:13.000 We're good.

00:01:15.000 Good.

00:01:15.000 Big show.

00:01:16.000 Episode 101.

00:01:18.000 101.

00:01:19.000 101.

00:01:20.000 Common college course.

00:01:22.000 Yes.

00:01:22.000 Which is perfectly fitting because we'll have Professor Jordan Peterson on the program.

00:01:27.000 Newly famous after the Joe Rogan show.

00:01:29.000 We wrote about him a while ago at University of Toronto.

00:01:32.000 Everyone said he was a hate speaker because of this whole gender pronoun debacle.

00:01:37.000 And a smart guy.

00:01:38.000 Smart guy.

00:01:38.000 Looking forward to sitting down with him.

00:01:39.000 He'll be live in studio.

00:01:41.000 Well, that's a treat.

00:01:42.000 I should have said it's a big show.

00:01:44.000 We have Michelle Malkin as well. 0.98

00:01:45.000 We have Gavin McGinnis and Dr.

00:01:47.000 Ben Carson.

00:01:48.000 Big show.

00:01:49.000 Ben Carson.

00:01:50.000 Big show for a relatively slow week.

00:01:53.000 That is true.

00:01:54.000 It has been an awful week for news.

00:01:57.000 Isn't it sort of coincidental that as we go into holidays, all of a sudden there's just no news?

00:02:04.000 No.

00:02:04.000 What a coincidence.

00:02:05.000 When all the spending ads and budgets are gone, no news.

00:02:08.000 Well, it's just one of those deals, right?

00:02:11.000 It's news that's fit to print.

00:02:14.000 Unless it's between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

00:02:17.000 Then it's just, eh, it's a blip on the radar.

00:02:19.000 It's one of those things, you know, I worked at Fox for four and a half years.

00:02:22.000 I've basically appeared on every network out there.

00:02:24.000 And, uh, listen, that's the secret.

00:02:27.000 If there's no news to talk about, well, first off, if there's no news to talk about during a hot season or during sweeps week, they will talk about, they will create stories.

00:02:35.000 Fabric is always, it's reliable, reliable.

00:02:38.000 And then if there are some news, big stories, big stories to talk about during a season where they don't want to talk about, well, Unless it's Flight 370 and then just 24-7 for months.

00:02:50.000 Just nurse on it. 0.99

00:02:52.000 Flight 370.

00:02:52.000 Remember that one that went to the Malaysian flight?

00:02:54.000 Oh, the Malaysian flight.

00:02:55.000 And then it was like three months.

00:02:57.000 I know, I know.

00:02:59.000 I never found it.

00:02:59.000 All worthless.

00:03:00.000 It's like the really disappointing series of...

00:03:03.000 HBO or something.

00:03:05.000 Of course, the show's going daily.

00:03:06.000 The studio's not entirely finished.

00:03:07.000 We have all the space, so I'm getting used to it.

00:03:09.000 That's going to be a new sign.

00:03:10.000 All right.

00:03:11.000 Let's talk about the biggest stories because we'll have tons of guests tonight.

00:03:15.000 Ben Carson, I'm looking forward to.

00:03:17.000 Big story of the week?

00:03:18.000 Biggest story of the week?

00:03:19.000 Do you know what it is?

00:03:20.000 I'm going to go ahead and guess.

00:03:22.000 Can I cheat?

00:03:23.000 No, you can't cheat.

00:03:25.000 I know what it is.

00:03:28.000 Donald Trump, Time, Person of the Year.

00:03:30.000 There you go, right up there on screen.

00:03:31.000 Donald Trump named Time, Person of the Year.

00:03:33.000 Well, hold on a second, Jared.

00:03:34.000 Jared just brought up a screen of Hitler.

00:03:36.000 Let me explain the context right off the bat.

00:03:38.000 So Donald Trump named Time, Person of the Year.

00:03:40.000 Right away, boycott time.

00:03:44.000 From all the left.

00:03:45.000 Let's boycott Time magazine. 0.70

00:03:47.000 People were furious.

00:03:48.000 And you have Sean King.

00:03:49.000 Now you can bring up the screen.

00:03:50.000 Sean King saying, well, I guess Trump...

00:03:53.000 Well, he sounds like a white guy. 0.60

00:03:55.000 Yeah, he sounds like a white guy.

00:03:56.000 Trump is in good company with Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin.

00:04:01.000 Hold on a second. 1.00

00:04:03.000 Stupid. 1.00

00:04:04.000 Do you understand the point you're making? 1.00

00:04:07.000 You're proving that the left is offended by everything.

00:04:11.000 Time's person of the year is not the best person on planet Earth.

00:04:17.000 It's not Time's favorite person.

00:04:19.000 It's the person of the year.

00:04:21.000 It's the person who had the biggest impact on the news cycle.

00:04:25.000 Time magazine focuses on news of the year.

00:04:29.000 And you can bet if Hillary won, it probably would have been Hillary. 1.00

00:04:32.000 Yes.

00:04:32.000 If Hillary won, it would have been Hillary.

00:04:34.000 After 9-11, it was Rudy Giuliani.

00:04:36.000 They've had terrorists.

00:04:37.000 They've had Hitler. 0.91

00:04:38.000 They've had Stalin. 0.52

00:04:39.000 Do you think that Time Magazine would put Hitler on their cover?

00:04:43.000 Because he's their fave?

00:04:45.000 Because they love him.

00:04:45.000 This just can't get enough.

00:04:46.000 Hitler's totes adorbs left on the cover.

00:04:49.000 Okay, so shouldn't that prove a point?

00:04:51.000 First off, Time, I guarantee you, is riddled with leftists employed there.

00:04:54.000 It's not a conservative publication.

00:04:57.000 Guarantee you that.

00:04:59.000 We've reached a point in the United States where people are offended at the mere documentation of history.

00:05:08.000 Could you imagine if someone wrote an article?

00:05:12.000 Well, you know, this is pretty bad.

00:05:14.000 Slavery is still going on in the United States.

00:05:16.000 I just can't.

00:05:17.000 I'm boycotting.

00:05:18.000 I can't even believe you'd say the word slavery.

00:05:22.000 We're offended at documenting that Donald Trump has had influence.

00:05:26.000 Now, I love watching this.

00:05:28.000 I love watching leftists melt down.

00:05:29.000 It just shows how intolerant they are.

00:05:32.000 Boycott Time Magazine.

00:05:34.000 First off, Time Magazine is going to boycott itself, alright?

00:05:36.000 It's probably not going to be around that much longer.

00:05:40.000 Did you see this when you watched it?

00:05:41.000 I was going, hold on a second.

00:05:42.000 Do these people realize that time were not Hitler? 0.55

00:05:45.000 I don't know.

00:05:46.000 I feel like Twitter should just come with pacifiers these days.

00:05:48.000 By the way, these are the same people who lamented laborious the death of Fidel Castro.

00:05:55.000 Oh! 0.60

00:05:57.000 Oh, he was a folk hero to us.

00:05:59.000 Then he was disappointing.

00:06:02.000 They had a moment of silence for the guy, didn't they?

00:06:04.000 Yeah.

00:06:05.000 Chris Matthews said he was like a folk hero to leftists, and then tried to say, well, he was disappointing.

00:06:08.000 Like, he was part of a murderous communist regime, and you're putting his mistakes on par with, oh, that cab driver was so rude to me!

00:06:16.000 It's boring.

00:06:17.000 Service was not quite at the par.

00:06:18.000 And now they're offended at Donald Trump being on Time Magazine.

00:06:21.000 And by the way, we have later on coming on the show, there's a new rendition of Baby It's Cold Outside because the first one was too rapey.

00:06:28.000 Everything's offensive.

00:06:29.000 Amy Schumer's going to be Barbie. 1.00

00:06:32.000 For those listening terrestrially, I apologize.

00:06:33.000 We do not cover the repairs of your radios on which you no doubt vomited.

00:06:39.000 It is one of those issues.

00:06:41.000 Now, listen, a lot of people are saying, why haven't you been talking about Trump a ton these past couple weeks?

00:06:46.000 Let me explain to you why.

00:06:48.000 Because he hasn't done anything yet, and this is a phase where I've seen with every president, they make a lot of promises or they make a lot of pivots is the term you see in the media.

00:06:58.000 Meghan McCain was on a network called Pivot for a while. 0.89

00:07:02.000 Until she brought her double Z's over there to Fox News. 1.00

00:07:05.000 I feel like this is the month gap where they're just trying to do anything they can to stay in the news.

00:07:08.000 It's a month gap where they really have to confirm why people voted for them.

00:07:12.000 And often this is a time where you see a lot of pandering.

00:07:15.000 Because they're trying to unify the country.

00:07:17.000 You do have to ride that first wave.

00:07:19.000 So how do I feel about Donald Trump?

00:07:21.000 I just don't want to speculate because anything he says right now could go either way.

00:07:27.000 On the cabinet picks, some of them have been great.

00:07:28.000 I think win some, lose some.

00:07:30.000 I really like the, and we're talking about the guy who will very likely repeal Obamacare.

00:07:34.000 I love that Obama's legacy will be like a fart in the wind.

00:07:39.000 I'm glad that it's going to go away very quickly.

00:07:41.000 The carrier deal.

00:07:43.000 It did happen, though.

00:07:44.000 And that happened, and I didn't talk about it a lot last week because we didn't have a ton of information.

00:07:49.000 We have more now, and there's been some more fallout.

00:07:51.000 So I think we can talk about this because, again, Time magazine, I would say this is the next biggest story, and I think there are a few things that people are missing.

00:08:00.000 Donald Trump carrier deal, the left was furious.

00:08:02.000 He claimed he saved more jobs.

00:08:03.000 They claimed he didn't save as many jobs as he did.

00:08:05.000 Donald Trump's really been appealing to the Rust Belt sort of union workers, blue collar.

00:08:10.000 That's been a big part of his strategy.

00:08:13.000 Well, the union heads are doing as union heads do.

00:08:19.000 Roll clip.

00:08:19.000 Chuck Jones, who is president of United Steelworkers 1999, has done a terrible job representing workers.

00:08:25.000 No wonder companies flee country!

00:08:29.000 What do you say, Chuck, when you hear that?

00:08:33.000 Well, first of all, I'm very damn nice.

00:08:35.000 But with Donald Trump saying it, That must mean I'm doing a good job because these people are making a decent wage at Carrier, and I feel like I'm somewhat involved in making that happen.

00:08:52.000 Yeah, right.

00:08:53.000 So this guy goes on to then, you know, no word of the fact that this union could be the reason that so many jobs are leaving the United States.

00:09:02.000 Yeah, nice pat on the back, seems appropriate.

00:09:03.000 He goes on to it, we don't have it in the clip, we have to be careful with CNN clips because they might hit us with copyright infringements, thanks YouTube, to attack Donald Trump repeatedly, mercilessly.

00:09:14.000 These people are just, they're attacking, they're attacking, they're attacking, the unions are.

00:09:18.000 We saw this coming.

00:09:19.000 We talked about this.

00:09:20.000 And this is something, like I said, I have a lot of grace for people whenever they're about to go into office, win some, lose some with Donald Trump.

00:09:26.000 But Donald Trump has made a part, and everyone has praised him, right?

00:09:30.000 So he's beholden to this a little bit, how great he is in the Rust Belt, how he's going to shake up the map.

00:09:33.000 And he has talked about tariffs, and he has talked about bringing back manufacturing jobs, and he has done so without expressly addressing the elephant in the room.

00:09:42.000 Which is unions who are a big reason, you know, unions and crony politicians in the Midwest, all of whom virtually are Democrat.

00:09:51.000 And Donald Trump as president doesn't change that, doesn't change the local legislature.

00:09:54.000 So when you say you're going to bring the jobs back, when you're going to punish companies from leaving, and you're not addressing the reason they're leaving right off the bat, and a big part of that is unions because you got a lot of votes from them, this is what's going to happen.

00:10:05.000 And here's my point.

00:10:07.000 Stop trying to pander.

00:10:10.000 Not just Trump.

00:10:10.000 Anyone.

00:10:11.000 Stop trying to pander to people who will never be your friends.

00:10:14.000 AFL-CIO will never be your friends.

00:10:16.000 Donald Trump.

00:10:16.000 The UAW will never be your friends.

00:10:18.000 The Steelworkers Union will never be your friends.

00:10:21.000 Look at their political contributions, which far outnumber Big Oil, which far outnumber the Koch brothers.

00:10:27.000 It's not even close.

00:10:28.000 They will never be your friends, Republicans.

00:10:30.000 And so I definitely see this being a twisty, windy road to the depths of hell if you don't Make a pre-existing condition, if you will, that, alright, listen, we want to bring jobs back, but we need to address this.

00:10:46.000 We need to address the root problem.

00:10:47.000 I am on board with lowering corporate tax rates.

00:10:49.000 I am on board with relieving these companies who are beholden to these corrupt unions as best as you can.

00:10:56.000 But let me do the math for you.

00:10:58.000 Over the past 15 or 16 years, about 5 million jobs in the manufacturing sector have gone away, okay?

00:11:03.000 Most of those are not due to outsourcing.

00:11:08.000 They're due to automation.

00:11:10.000 Now, I don't think many of us are arguing that with automation we should do away with that, right? 1.00

00:11:14.000 Then you become like one of those fight for 15 morons. 0.59

00:11:16.000 So, even if Donald Trump were to bring back all of the jobs, right, you're talking about maybe, let's say, 100,000 a year. 0.98

00:11:23.000 Let's say you were to bring back 100,000 a year in a labor force of 152,000, it wouldn't do enough.

00:11:28.000 It wouldn't do that much.

00:11:30.000 It wouldn't be a drop in the bucket.

00:11:31.000 And we're doing this to try and pander to a voting base, not to try and fix an economy, and you're trying to pander to a voting base who will throw you under the bus anyway.

00:11:38.000 You negotiate with these people, they're going to come back and bend you over to the next negotiation and want more, and when you don't, they're going to give virtually 99% of all their contributions to Democrats, as they have done.

00:11:47.000 99% of their contributions have gone to Democrats throughout history.

00:11:50.000 That's not going to change.

00:11:51.000 They're not your friends.

00:11:52.000 Stop trying to make them your friends.

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00:12:27.000 But how'd you get in here?

00:12:29.000 Shoot me an Astroglide Hey Jared, what are you doing? 0.99

00:12:45.000 Shooting bad guys. 1.00

00:12:47.000 With what? 0.60

00:12:47.000 By AR-15. 0.60

00:12:48.000 Where'd you get it?

00:12:49.000 AR-15.com.

00:12:51.000 Enunciate it more clearly so our audience can hear.

00:12:54.000 AR-15.com.

00:12:55.000 That's better.

00:12:56.000 They sell guns now?

00:12:58.000 Yeah, they do.

00:12:59.000 Are they any good?

00:13:00.000 They're the best.

00:13:01.000 Where from?

00:13:02.000 AR-15.com.

00:13:03.000 Kaboom! 0.99

00:13:04.000 Kaboosh! 1.00

00:13:04.000 You really make that sound? 1.00

00:13:06.000 Didn't have the budget for sound effects.

00:13:07.000 Kaboow! 0.92

00:13:08.000 Kaboow! 0.92

00:13:09.000 Oh, there's another one!

00:13:10.000 Kaboow! 0.96

00:13:11.000 You shot him!

00:13:12.000 With what?

00:13:13.000 By AR-15!

00:13:14.000 From where?

00:13:15.000 AR-15.com.

00:13:16.000 Hey, how do you know they're bad guys?

00:13:18.000 Dirtboards and burkas. 1.00

00:13:19.000 Kaboow! 0.92

00:13:19.000 That's racist! 0.92

00:13:56.000 That's Hopper Growling.

00:13:56.000 We have Jordan Peterson coming up after the break.

00:13:59.000 Looking forward to Jordan Peterson.

00:14:00.000 Then we have Michelle Malkin, Gavin McGinnis, Dr.

00:14:02.000 Ben Carson.

00:14:03.000 Get your coffee ready.

00:14:05.000 Or your methamphetamine.

00:14:07.000 Ooh.

00:14:08.000 Or crack if you're from his hometown of Detroit.

00:14:10.000 So I had more to say on Trump and the carrier deal.

00:14:12.000 You know, we'll get into it.

00:14:13.000 We'll get into talking about the deficit and GDP a little later.

00:14:15.000 It's kind of boring to lead it off.

00:14:16.000 But long story short, I think, and the same thing you're seeing with Dr.

00:14:21.000 Ben Carson this week.

00:14:23.000 Listen, Dr.

00:14:24.000 Ben Carson, there are some things I like about him, some things...

00:14:27.000 There's nothing I dislike about him, but sometimes I worry about his experience level.

00:14:31.000 Sometimes I worry about things that he said, but I really like him.

00:14:34.000 I think he's a decent guy, okay?

00:14:35.000 But wherever you line up, there is no proof to the allegations from the left that Dr.

00:14:40.000 Ben Carson is a racist or a xenophobe.

00:14:43.000 There's no doubt. 0.98

00:14:44.000 And so when it comes to...

00:14:45.000 Even with people with whom I disagree, and Dr.

00:14:47.000 Ben Carson, I wouldn't say is amongst them, I feel compelled.

00:14:52.000 Is it me?

00:14:52.000 I feel compelled to defend them when the left makes these accusations.

00:14:56.000 Donald Trump appoints xenophobic racist Ben Carson.

00:14:59.000 Really? 1.00

00:15:00.000 The black guy raised in Detroit to a single mother who he tried to stab? 0.94

00:15:05.000 I mean, when we talk about the black experience, the guy has a gold membership. 0.94

00:15:13.000 I don't understand.

00:15:14.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:15:15.000 Because remember, I was like, well, Condoleezza Rice isn't really black.

00:15:17.000 Well, Colin Powell.

00:15:18.000 But now they've taken Colin Powell back. 0.98

00:15:21.000 He's a real Negro. 1.00

00:15:23.000 We'll take him. 0.81

00:15:24.000 It's Latin.

00:15:25.000 It's not racist. 1.00

00:15:25.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:15:26.000 One of the clips that I really like from this week that I just felt we have to run and then we have to get to. 0.98

00:15:26.000 Okay. 0.98

00:15:30.000 Amy Schumer.

00:15:32.000 Rick Santorum.

00:15:33.000 Something to like.

00:15:34.000 Something to disagree with Rick Santorum on passionately.

00:15:38.000 But he was asked in a CNN form with Van Jones by basically an illegal immigrant. 0.88

00:15:42.000 Let's use the proper terminology.

00:15:44.000 She was trying to talk about the possibility of being deported or not being able to remain illegal.

00:15:51.000 Well, let's roll the first clip.

00:15:52.000 This was the setup.

00:15:53.000 Marley was dead to begin with to garner sympathy. 0.83

00:15:57.000 And I... Stand to lose all the work that I've done if the new administration decides to end DACA, which is the program that allows undocumented individuals, like myself, to have the ability to work.

00:16:15.000 Uh-huh.

00:16:19.000 Well, because she put on a nice pantsuit, she should be able to commit felonies. 0.99

00:16:27.000 She looks like that Americana girl from Ugly Betty. 0.97

00:16:30.000 Yeah, what's her name?

00:16:31.000 America Rivera.

00:16:33.000 No, not America Rivera.

00:16:34.000 Mexico Rivera.

00:16:36.000 What is it?

00:16:36.000 Illegal Rivera.

00:16:37.000 Yeah.

00:16:38.000 Someone will get us her name and they'll be relieved.

00:16:40.000 Just stop it.

00:16:41.000 Don't call her Ugly Betty.

00:16:42.000 That was the name of the show.

00:16:43.000 That was the name of the show.

00:16:45.000 Alright, so Rick Santorum, they were expecting him to try and tiptoe around this and you're like, well, maybe so, maybe not.

00:16:50.000 And listen, it takes brass balls to respond the way Rick Santorum did.

00:16:55.000 Go ahead.

00:16:56.000 Not a very, very pleasant place to be.

00:16:58.000 And I remember asking him, and he hated Italy because it was a horrible childhood in his mind.

00:17:03.000 And I asked him, I said, you know, did you ever resign America?

00:17:06.000 He said, no, America was worth the wait.

00:17:08.000 It was worth doing it the right way.

00:17:10.000 And I think what most people in America feel...

00:17:13.000 Is that you can get a tremendous benefit by being here in this country.

00:17:17.000 You just described something that I don't know what country that your parents came from.

00:17:23.000 But my guess is you wouldn't have had the opportunities to be able to accomplish what you have.

00:17:28.000 And my final point is you have the ability to go to any other country right now.

00:17:35.000 And apply those wares and be successful and then reapply to come back to America if you so choose.

00:17:41.000 Look at his face.

00:17:42.000 I love this.

00:17:42.000 Look at his face.

00:17:42.000 - Senator, can I answer?

00:17:44.000 - Oh, oh, oh, all right, come back.

00:17:47.000 He's just like, whatever. - Whatever. - Whatever.

00:17:50.000 Listen, I mean, I don't think anything else. 0.98

00:17:52.000 You're racist. 0.88

00:17:53.000 Why'd you say that to me? 0.99

00:17:55.000 What are you supposed to say?

00:17:56.000 That Navarro lady? 1.00

00:17:57.000 A lady who claims to be Republican, but all she's done is made a career off of bashing Trump. 1.00

00:18:01.000 Why do all your Mexican women sound like dudes? 1.00

00:18:04.000 I don't know. 0.52

00:18:04.000 I can't go up that high. 0.52

00:18:06.000 Once we get the better soundboard, you can bring...

00:18:08.000 We can sound like not gay Jared on the shelf. 0.99

00:18:08.000 Oh, okay, that's a good point. 0.99

00:18:10.000 So I just love...

00:18:11.000 It's very rare that you get a moment this earnest.

00:18:14.000 Because, listen, all of us feel that way.

00:18:16.000 I know I do.

00:18:17.000 Someone's like, well, what about me?

00:18:18.000 I'm here illegally.

00:18:19.000 Do you think we should get rid of me?

00:18:21.000 Yes.

00:18:22.000 And so they expect us to say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:18:25.000 And I love the mm-hmm.

00:18:27.000 Every now and then, you get somebody who just doesn't back down.

00:18:30.000 And they don't always get credit.

00:18:32.000 Sometimes Rick Santorum doesn't get credit for this.

00:18:35.000 Speaking of credit...

00:18:38.000 Amy Schumer.

00:18:39.000 I don't really know what the segue is there.

00:18:40.000 There wasn't really a big fat joke.

00:18:43.000 No.

00:18:44.000 That's about all we can do with Amy Schumer. 0.74

00:18:46.000 It gets old hat.

00:18:47.000 But she has been assigned the role of Barbie. 0.94

00:18:51.000 And Not Gay Jared can bring up her letter. 0.83

00:18:53.000 So everyone was obviously saying...

00:18:54.000 The resemblance is uncanny.

00:18:55.000 Yes, the resemblance is uncanny.

00:18:56.000 It's like if Barbie...

00:19:00.000 If Barbie had befallen on her, the scenario of Macaulay Culkin at the end of My Girl, and she were stung with a thousand bees, she would then look like the picture on the left, Amy Schumer.

00:19:12.000 Anyone who didn't see My Girl, you should be ashamed of yourself, and for those who did, you're welcome.

00:19:16.000 So she responded because people were saying, you know, I just don't really think Amy Schumer will make a good Barbie. 0.70

00:19:21.000 Listen, they're not going to cast me as the new cool hand Luke.

00:19:25.000 I'm okay with it.

00:19:28.000 I'm disappointed.

00:19:29.000 Here's what she wrote.

00:19:29.000 Jared, bring it up.

00:19:30.000 She responded with very honor to be nominated for two Grammys and to be considered to play an important and evolving icon.

00:19:35.000 Remember only a few weeks ago when they were releasing Normal Barbie?

00:19:38.000 It wasn't an important and evolving.

00:19:40.000 It was a sexist icon.

00:19:41.000 But now that it's Amy Schumer, we're all hands-on Barbie.

00:19:46.000 Is it fat-shaming if you know you're not fat and have zero shame in your game?

00:19:49.000 I don't think so.

00:19:51.000 But you don't know that.

00:19:53.000 You just claim that.

00:19:55.000 I am strong and I am proud of how I live my life and say what I mean and fight for what I believe in. 1.00

00:19:59.000 So you believe in being a middle-aged, unmarried, motherless, miserable whore. 0.99

00:20:06.000 That's her bit. 1.00

00:20:07.000 She talks about whoring herself out.

00:20:10.000 You set your stopwatch with Amy Schumer, right?

00:20:12.000 And she goes out, walks out on stage like the Chelsea Handler thing. 0.94

00:20:14.000 This is the female comedian bit. 1.00

00:20:16.000 Ah, I'm a filthy slut. 1.00

00:20:17.000 Dang, 14 seconds. 1.00

00:20:18.000 Wow, she made it 14 seconds. 1.00

00:20:20.000 That's Amy Schumer's... 0.99

00:20:21.000 Listen, if you're proud of that, that's fine.

00:20:22.000 But people have the right to criticize it.

00:20:24.000 Just like people have the right to criticize Barbie, who wouldn't have made it in the Excel catalog a mere few years ago.

00:20:30.000 I'm a badass comic headlining arenas all over the world and making TV and movies and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:20:34.000 Anyone who has ever been bullied or felt bad about yourself, I'm out there fighting for you, collecting multi-million dollar checks for a movie that will flop.

00:20:41.000 And I want you to fight for yourself, too.

00:20:43.000 We need to laugh at all the haters and sympathize with them.

00:20:46.000 If I say I'm beautiful, I say I'm strong, you will not determine my story.

00:20:51.000 I will.

00:20:51.000 Here's the thing.

00:20:53.000 Incorrect.

00:20:54.000 You don't get to determine if you're beautiful. 0.99

00:20:56.000 Much like Lena Dunham taking a crap on a toilet. 1.00

00:20:58.000 Selfie, please! 1.00

00:20:58.000 That's disgusting. 1.00

00:20:59.000 Take it off. 0.56

00:21:00.000 Does not get to determine that that's beautiful. 0.99

00:21:02.000 We say Lena Dunham on a toilet, defecating, is not sexy. 1.00

00:21:06.000 We prefer our Barbies to be sexy. 0.99

00:21:08.000 Amy Schumer, you're funny.

00:21:10.000 To some, you're not sexy.

00:21:11.000 Barbie is not known as the funny chick at the bar. 1.00

00:21:13.000 She's the hot chick. 1.00

00:21:15.000 She is the trophy wife. 1.00

00:21:16.000 That's what Barbie is. 1.00

00:21:17.000 You are not.

00:21:18.000 Jordan Peterson next on now the recovered audition tapes from Barbie starring Amy Schumer Yeah, I wasn't really a huge fan of that one.

00:21:36.000 No, I thought that that was very where he was acting.

00:21:38.000 Okay, Chase, you will be reading for the role of Ken, so you've read the sides.

00:21:44.000 Yep.

00:21:44.000 And let's just start with trying the theme song.

00:21:50.000 Okay, keep rolling the song and the reveal on Amy.

00:21:55.000 Now.

00:21:56.000 Come on, Barbie. 0.98

00:21:57.000 Let's go.

00:21:58.000 No, no, no.

00:22:00.000 No, no, no.

00:22:01.000 No.

00:22:03.000 Stay tuned for more Recovered Audition Tapes from Barbie.

00:22:07.000 Starring Amy Schumer.

00:22:08.000 She can make babies. 1.00

00:22:11.000 Not too much dancing.

00:22:35.000 We have to be professional because we have a real guest here, Real guest.

00:22:38.000 Real guest.

00:22:38.000 He's a gentleman and a scholar, quite literally.

00:22:41.000 We say that a lot.

00:22:42.000 We say that.

00:22:42.000 We mean it this time.

00:22:43.000 But it's not true.

00:22:43.000 He's a professor at the University of Toronto, Jordan Peterson videos on YouTube.

00:22:48.000 Jordan B. Peterson, at Jordan B. Peterson on Twitter.

00:22:50.000 I have those plugs right, correct?

00:22:52.000 You do.

00:22:53.000 You do.

00:22:53.000 I highly recommend it.

00:22:54.000 So we wrote about Professor Jordan Peterson a while back.

00:22:58.000 He can just talk about exactly what it was.

00:23:00.000 It rolled around.

00:23:01.000 Gender pronouns and freedom of speech versus supposed social justice.

00:23:05.000 I come from Canada where it was just sort of assumed.

00:23:08.000 And then now he's blown up.

00:23:09.000 He's been all over Joe Rogan on the interwebs.

00:23:12.000 Thank you for being with us, sir.

00:23:13.000 Nice dance.

00:23:14.000 Well, thank you.

00:23:15.000 You're very graceful.

00:23:16.000 Well, you know, it's funny.

00:23:17.000 With Canadians, until he smiles, you don't know about the piercing stare. 1.00

00:23:22.000 It's kind of left in the dark on that one.

00:23:23.000 Kind of left in the dark.

00:23:24.000 So I appreciate it.

00:23:25.000 You know, sometimes it's like you get professors and they say, I appreciate humor.

00:23:29.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:30.000 But they don't crack a smile.

00:23:31.000 Well, apparently they've had some kind of a face issue.

00:23:33.000 I try not to crack a smile when I'm making jokes.

00:23:36.000 Really?

00:23:37.000 Why?

00:23:39.000 It's more amusing to me that way.

00:23:40.000 That's more amusing to you.

00:23:41.000 I can understand that.

00:23:42.000 So your art is only for yourself.

00:23:44.000 You know what some Canadians call that? 0.92

00:23:46.000 Pretentious.

00:23:50.000 Explain to us exactly what this was.

00:23:52.000 You are not playing ball with the gender pronouns. 0.80

00:23:55.000 Tell me the situation at University of Toronto.

00:23:57.000 This is how most people know you, and then we can expand on it.

00:24:00.000 Yeah, well, there was a bill that was passed, a piece of legislation in Canada that's almost passed now at the federal level called Bill C-16, and what it purports to do is to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of protected groups under the Canadian Human Rights Code and the Criminal Code, and so it makes harassment and discrimination You can pursue it under the hate provisions of the Criminal Code.

00:24:26.000 That doesn't seem so bad, but the problem is that it's interpreted in a broader set of policies that were laid out in the Ontario Human Rights Commission, and those policies are very bad, in my estimation.

00:24:39.000 Well, it's one thing a lot of Americans don't understand, and I remember talking about this with Ann Coulter back in the day when they banned her from, was it Ottawa?

00:24:46.000 University of Ottawa?

00:24:46.000 It was somewhere in Ottawa.

00:24:48.000 I think it was University of Ottawa, yeah.

00:24:50.000 I think it was, yeah.

00:24:51.000 I'm not sure.

00:24:51.000 And I said, well, you don't understand freedom of speech is not really a legally protected right in Canada.

00:24:56.000 We don't really have it the same way the United States does.

00:24:58.000 And she couldn't really believe it.

00:25:00.000 And I said, well, here are some precedents, legally hate speech.

00:25:03.000 And a lot of people say, well, we do have freedom of speech, we just don't allow hate speech.

00:25:07.000 So is that kind of what the Senate around there in Ontario with the LGBTQAIP situation?

00:25:13.000 Well, the thing that bothered me was that the legislators under the pressure from these marginal...

00:25:20.000 Social justice type groups are instantiating a particular view of human identity into the law.

00:25:26.000 And the view essentially is that your identity, regardless of its level, but say your sexual identity, your sexual preference, your gender expression, which is essentially your fashion choices, Yes!

00:25:41.000 It is.

00:25:42.000 I'm dead serious about that.

00:25:44.000 Well, you know, Lauren Southern is a friend of both of ours and she has some tranny friends who are also very nice. 1.00

00:25:49.000 They were really mad because we had a psychiatrist on who had dealt with a lot of transgender people.

00:25:53.000 She said probably some of the most deeply disturbed individuals she had come across who required the most work.

00:25:58.000 And she talked about how there used to be transsexuals and transvestites, and most transgenders don't go through with the bottom surgery at all.

00:26:05.000 As a matter of fact, many of them don't go through the top surgery or even the hormone replacement therapy.

00:26:10.000 And I said, what's the difference between today's transgenders and, you know, last decade's transvestites? 1.00

00:26:16.000 She said none.

00:26:17.000 It's just a term.

00:26:17.000 So you are actually medically accurate, but it's wildly offensive and you'll get letters.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, well, you see, the problem is for me that it's very dangerous to make a law that forces the presumption that there's no relationship between the underlying biology and people's identities, because as far as I'm concerned, that's factually false.

00:26:38.000 It's conceptually weak, but it's also factually false.

00:26:41.000 And the law actually goes farther than that, so you can imagine that identity has a number of components.

00:26:46.000 Biology would be one. 1.00

00:26:48.000 That's the part that's associated with the objective world, with the real world.

00:26:51.000 And the idea that that doesn't have any influence on people is palpably insane, especially given...

00:26:58.000 It's even insane in terms of the internal workings of the arguments that the people on that side of the equation are making.

00:27:06.000 So, for example, when transsexuals go through with... 1.00

00:27:09.000 With surgical and hormonal procedures, they're obviously acting on the presupposition that biology is an important component of identity because they wouldn't bother with the hormonal treatments otherwise.

00:27:18.000 That's certainly not merely something that has physical consequences.

00:27:25.000 Okay, so then you could say, well, you know, your identity as a man has a biological component and it has a sociological component.

00:27:32.000 And you can argue about how much of the way that you are and the way you present yourself is culturally constructed and how much of it is biologically based.

00:27:40.000 But there's some contribution of both.

00:27:43.000 Okay, the law insists that there's no contribution of the biology.

00:27:46.000 And then you could say, well, that makes your identity only a social construct.

00:27:50.000 But then the law goes farther than that.

00:27:52.000 It doesn't even allow...

00:27:54.000 For the social construction element of it to be part of the game, because you're allowed to define your identity subjectively in any manner you see fit.

00:28:03.000 But then they also demand taxpayers pick up the tab for the biological component when they want to change it.

00:28:03.000 Right.

00:28:08.000 I don't know about that in Canada, but I know in Nancy Pelosi's district, we were talking about that with the...

00:28:12.000 The reason the Electoral College exists is so that values can be protected within the state, so that someone in North Dakota isn't paying for your adedictomy over there in San Francisco.

00:28:19.000 Right.

00:28:20.000 But that's the big irony.

00:28:21.000 Well, it's a social construct, but this idea, kind of what you're talking about, if there can be a male brain and a female brain, meaning if you were born to the wrong carcass, to the wrong gender, well, that sort of counters their entire premise to begin with.

00:28:34.000 Well, one of the things that I pointed out in the first video I made, I made three videos on this topic.

00:28:39.000 One about the bill.

00:28:40.000 And the danger of making law out of this kind of doctrine.

00:28:44.000 And another complaining, criticizing the University of Toronto's decision to make anti-racism and anti-bias training mandatory for their staff, which is something I regard as a form of pseudo-scientific political re-education.

00:28:57.000 I think there's no excuse for it whatsoever, and in fact the evidence for that sort of thing suggests that mandatory anti-racism and anti-bias training either has no effect or makes people worse.

00:29:07.000 So you spoke out against this?

00:29:09.000 Yes.

00:29:09.000 And you're still gainfully employed.

00:29:11.000 Yes, although I received two warning letters from the university.

00:29:15.000 I'm not saying I have any problem with that, but I'm surprised.

00:29:18.000 Yeah, well, I mean, it could have gone...

00:29:20.000 I think what the university essentially did, because I said in the video, in the first video, that what I was doing in making the video was probably already...

00:29:29.000 Illegal according to the Ontario Human Rights Commission and then they were going to make it illegal federally and so I said even making the video criticizing the legislation was probably already illegal and that as my employer the University of Toronto was just as responsible for what I said as I am because that's also part of the legislation.

00:29:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:48.000 Well, people need to understand that that's very important, the legislative process here.

00:29:53.000 People say, well, hate speech, and it sounds good to a lot of students, right?

00:29:56.000 And I think it comes from a place of compassion.

00:29:58.000 Well, we don't want to speak hatefully.

00:30:00.000 We don't want to hate people.

00:30:01.000 So, yeah, we shouldn't allow hate speech.

00:30:03.000 But who then becomes the arbiter of hate speech?

00:30:05.000 Well, that's the problem.

00:30:06.000 And just because hate speech is wrong doesn't mean it should be illegal.

00:30:08.000 No.

00:30:09.000 I mean, the stuff Jared does on his day off.

00:30:11.000 Those should be, you know, they're reprehensible.

00:30:13.000 And wrong.

00:30:14.000 And wrong, but I support his right...

00:30:16.000 I just threw up all in my mouth talking about it.

00:30:18.000 It's no wonder he works for you because you're obviously a very compassionate employer as well as a great dancer.

00:30:23.000 Yes, and by the way, much of this is created biologically.

00:30:27.000 The other half, lifetime fitness.

00:30:29.000 It is.

00:30:30.000 You're an impressive specimen.

00:30:31.000 Thank you very much, Mr.

00:30:32.000 It's actually hard to sit here because of the glow of light that's coming off you.

00:30:32.000 Pierce.

00:30:36.000 Well, you have that Sam Elliott sort of rustic vibe about you.

00:30:40.000 Well, I am from northern Alberta, you know.

00:30:42.000 This is true.

00:30:43.000 Just like a primitive part of Texas.

00:30:45.000 Is it horrible going into work now?

00:30:47.000 I mean, you've been on Joe Rogan, and we've written about it, and we've had millions of people.

00:30:51.000 Does everyone just respectfully, do they hate you in Toronto?

00:30:54.000 No, no, no.

00:30:56.000 The funny thing is that I'm more self-conscious when I go on the campus now.

00:31:01.000 Yeah, I would imagine.

00:31:02.000 You feel exposed.

00:31:03.000 I do feel more exposed.

00:31:03.000 Yeah, I do.

00:31:05.000 And I'm not complaining about that, by the way.

00:31:09.000 But...

00:31:10.000 But I don't have anything to complain about with regards to what's happened.

00:31:15.000 I mean, first of all, I've had overwhelming public support and what I wanted to do with the initial videos was to articulate my thoughts on the matter because it's very complicated what's happening politically around the world in Canada, in the US, in Western Europe, in Australia, New Zealand.

00:31:29.000 It's very, very complicated and something isn't going well.

00:31:33.000 And it's very hard to sort it out.

00:31:34.000 And one of the things that's happened since I've had, there's been 180 press articles written about the videos and the consequences of those videos since September 27th.

00:31:45.000 And a tremendous amount of public criticism.

00:31:48.000 And one of the advantages to that, to being criticized publicly and also to being supported publicly, is that it forces you to get your arguments straight and straighter and straighter.

00:31:57.000 It's like trading with a weighted vest.

00:31:59.000 We said that about being raised in Canada.

00:32:02.000 And this is where I wanted to discuss having been raised in Montreal.

00:32:04.000 We didn't have any conservatives or libertarians.

00:32:07.000 We had liberals and we had liberal separatists.

00:32:09.000 I remember someone came into class in the fourth grade.

00:32:12.000 Francis of Assisi, came in in a Jean Chrétien mask saying, thank you all for getting your parents to vote liberal.

00:32:12.000 I went to St.

00:32:18.000 They were totally unashamed doing this.

00:32:20.000 And then when I went to college, I had a professor say, who's a Christian?

00:32:25.000 Raise your hand.

00:32:26.000 You probably won't pass this class.

00:32:28.000 The class was Greek mythology.

00:32:29.000 Apparently I can't pass a class because I couldn't open my mind enough to talk about waxwings flying close to the sun.

00:32:35.000 This was just, it permeated everywhere.

00:32:37.000 The other point of view didn't even exist.

00:32:39.000 Whereas I had an American father who made sure I understood the American Constitution, why the United States was created the way it was, and most people don't.

00:32:46.000 So you were saying off air, which surprised me, you thought that Toronto or Ontario had maybe evaded this sort of radical social justice warrior leftism, contrasting with the United States.

00:32:56.000 I always assumed that it was the position in Canada by default.

00:33:00.000 Well, I was thinking more specifically about the University of Toronto.

00:33:03.000 I mean, the U of T is a very diverse campus, partly because Toronto has people from all over the world in it, many people from all over the world, people who've moved there from different countries.

00:33:19.000 Immigrants, by and large, are relatively conservative.

00:33:21.000 I mean, in Canada, the immigrants tend to support the Liberal Party because the Liberal Party has been more pro-immigration.

00:33:27.000 But in terms of their fundamental stance with regards to social issues, almost all immigrants are more on the conservative side.

00:33:34.000 Would they?

00:33:35.000 Well, they're very pro-family, for example.

00:33:40.000 Are Haitians?

00:33:41.000 Like a lot of Haitians in Quebec, you know, because of the French laws. 1.00

00:33:44.000 And French Canadians are often quite racist, so they weren't happy about it.

00:33:47.000 Yeah, well, the immigration situation in Quebec is quite different than it is in Ontario, because there's preference for people who are French-language speakers for immigration into Quebec.

00:33:58.000 But, like, the University of Toronto has a tremendous number of Asian students, and they're often children of first-generation immigrants, and they're extremely focused on educational attainment and employability.

00:34:09.000 They're not really that interested in all things considered in political issues, and so because of that, the University of Toronto, I would say, has been...

00:34:16.000 The student body at least has been more conservative in the old classic sense of conservative than might be typical say at an American Ivy League institution.

00:34:24.000 That makes sense.

00:34:25.000 Now what's happened is that the administration has become increasingly left-wing as the years have progressed and the administration has become more and more powerful and a lot of what is happening at the University of Toronto with regards to political correctness is a consequence of the doctrines that are put forward by the administration.

00:34:42.000 Yeah, and you can take a sip of water.

00:34:43.000 I'll take the floor here for a second.

00:34:44.000 I could see it was getting parched after that, and our audience, I guarantee you, is enthralled.

00:34:48.000 No, it's interesting that you say that.

00:34:50.000 One thing I noticed, particularly in Montreal, I don't know if this is the case in Toronto, Asians almost entirely congregated only with Asians.

00:34:59.000 It was very different from the United States.

00:35:00.000 When I went to a school which was largely Middle Eastern, a lot of Asians, they would sit at their own tables in the cafeteria, and they just didn't intermingle. 1.00

00:35:08.000 They had to when they played gym, you know, and they did their map out with dodgeball, and they were quite good at it.

00:35:17.000 But they didn't intermingle, and that was one thing that was very different.

00:35:20.000 It was people were separate cultures. 0.96

00:35:22.000 They didn't even speak English or French at the school, and I wonder if that might have something to do with them being apathetic politically in a place like Toronto.

00:35:28.000 No, I really do think it's just that they're more focused on their studies.

00:35:32.000 Like, the U of T student body is a very hard-working group, and it's a relatively hard school to get into, and the academic standards are pretty high.

00:35:41.000 And it's also not a social university.

00:35:43.000 Because it's a downtown campus, because most people commute there, It's by no means a party school, and so I'm not really even that familiar with the manner in which students socialize.

00:35:53.000 Let me hold that thought, and we'll talk about the manner in which Asians socialize and how much better they are than us at math.

00:35:59.000 He said it, not me.

00:36:01.000 Latterworth Crowder, stay tuned.

00:36:02.000 He'll get letters. 1.00

00:36:03.000 The fuck? 1.00

00:36:19.000 I'm your not-gay-jared-on-a-shelf. 1.00

00:36:21.000 I've come complimentary of every Mug Club sign-up, now through the new year.

00:36:24.000 That sounds like a bargain.

00:36:25.000 Have you signed up for your Mug Club yet?

00:36:26.000 Only $99 annually, or $69 for students.

00:36:29.000 I'm not...

00:36:30.000 comfortable with this.

00:36:31.000 Not only do you get access to Loud Earth Crowder daily, finally, but the entire CRTV lineup, including Mark Levin, Mark Stein, and Michelle Malkin.

00:36:39.000 This is breaking and entering.

00:36:41.000 Eh, I'd think twice about that.

00:36:43.000 Some pretty damning photos are already on the cloud.

00:36:45.000 I do what I say.

00:36:47.000 When it's time to party, we will party hard.

00:37:05.000 We'll be right back.

00:37:29.000 Serious gout.

00:37:33.000 From now on, we should only have Bach.

00:37:37.000 That's a horrible idea.

00:37:39.000 So I couldn't tell there, in that intro, whether you were dancing or twitching.

00:37:44.000 Well, thank you for bringing it up.

00:37:46.000 I have a long story history as an amateur boxer.

00:37:49.000 So it's twitching.

00:37:50.000 Yeah, well, let's just file that under Jordan Peterson making ill-timed Parkinson's jokes.

00:37:54.000 Horrible.

00:37:55.000 He's a bad man. 0.92

00:37:56.000 There's never a bad time for a Parkinson's joke.

00:38:01.000 Okay, so we were talking about this with Montreal and Toronto, very different upbringings.

00:38:05.000 So you talk about being uneasy on campus.

00:38:09.000 Is it just that you feel exposed?

00:38:11.000 Do you feel targeted?

00:38:12.000 Do you feel more so by faculty or by students?

00:38:15.000 Because like you said, the majority of Americans don't have a problem with you saying, all right, a man is a man and a woman is a woman.

00:38:21.000 But that's not the case on campus or in the media.

00:38:24.000 Well, that's also not precisely what I said.

00:38:26.000 What I said was that I wasn't going to use words that were made up by radical leftist activists because they were legislating the necessity for me to do that.

00:38:35.000 I was softening it for you, but yes.

00:38:36.000 Well, but it's a real specific issue for me.

00:38:39.000 It is.

00:38:40.000 It's a red herring in some sense that this happened to focus on the rights of transsexuals, because I don't really think that's what it's about.

00:38:49.000 And I think the reason that, I think I mentioned earlier that there were 180 newspaper articles now published about this in the last two and a half months, which is, that's a crazy number.

00:39:01.000 It's almost incomprehensible.

00:39:03.000 For something that seems relatively benign.

00:39:05.000 Well, that's it.

00:39:06.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:39:07.000 So, you know, when you're arguing with someone, even if you're doing this with someone you know well personally, a big part of the argument is often what is the argument about.

00:39:15.000 You know, so if you're married to someone and you come home and maybe you're late...

00:39:19.000 And your spouse is annoyed at you, what you have to decide as a couple is whether or not the argument is going to be about that particular instance or is it going to be about everything that's wrong with your relationship.

00:39:30.000 And you know how sometimes a little argument can spiral up until you're arguing about absolutely everything, including whether you should even be together.

00:39:37.000 Well, no, not in that case, but I'm quite certain the Clintons do.

00:39:41.000 Okay, well, fair.

00:39:42.000 And they have every reason to as well.

00:39:44.000 So, figuring out what the argument is about is a huge part of the problem when you have a disagreement.

00:39:50.000 And I don't think that this issue would have attracted anywhere near the attention that it attracted if it wasn't about something radically other than the specifics of this bill.

00:39:59.000 And what it's really about, I believe, is the same thing that the American election hinged on, at least hinged on in part, which is...

00:40:09.000 The group rights versus individualism, that's part of it.

00:40:14.000 How we're going to decide how to balance things like fairness and justice in our society.

00:40:20.000 What's the role of achievement versus equality?

00:40:27.000 And the arguments about, say, equality of outcome versus equality of opportunity.

00:40:32.000 It's going to be difficult for a Canadian in the era of Trudeau.

00:40:35.000 I mean, I don't know if you saw that interview where he just seems to vehemently hate small business owners.

00:40:39.000 He was talking about how it's really just a haven for tax breaks.

00:40:42.000 I mean, in the United States, even Democrats have to say, well, we're the party of small business when really they're not the party of business at all.

00:40:47.000 They're the party of big government.

00:40:49.000 Sidney, this is a guy who really does believe in speech codes and believes in equality of outcomes and not opportunity.

00:40:56.000 And it surprised me.

00:40:57.000 It surprised me.

00:40:58.000 Stephen Harper was the first guy I voted for as an adult.

00:41:00.000 And he's probably the one person I voted for in my lifetime most proudly.

00:41:04.000 And you guys were doing so well.

00:41:05.000 Higher in the Economic Freedom Index, Canadians, did they just not know what they had?

00:41:08.000 Because it seems like the culture has really changed quickly to one of oppressive political correctness.

00:41:14.000 Well, the reason that a democracy works, at least in part, isn't because the people that you vote in have better ideas.

00:41:22.000 It's not always obvious how much of any given candidate's ideas can actually be implemented into the political system, because there's a lot of checks and balances in it.

00:41:30.000 And now and then it's good, maybe every decade or so, say speaking in the Canadian situation, it's every eight years here, that you just throw the people out and you replace them with a new group.

00:41:40.000 And partly why that's so useful is because corruption tends to get instantiated if you leave people in power for any excess length of time.

00:41:47.000 And I think part of what happened with Harper was that he had just been in power long enough so that people were starting to become skeptical of what he was up to.

00:41:56.000 And wanted to switch it.

00:41:56.000 Yeah.

00:41:58.000 Now, I don't really think that people in Canada precisely knew what they were voting for, because I think Trudeau was much more influenced by radical leftists than any good liberals have any right to be.

00:42:10.000 I mean, we have a socialist party in Canada, and the more radical leftists should be associated with the socialist party, with the NDP. Yeah.

00:42:17.000 But they've invaded, let's say, the Liberals, and I would say to some degree the Conservatives.

00:42:22.000 The Justice Minister in Canada is clearly a political correct activist type.

00:42:29.000 Do you worry being targeted, given all the press now?

00:42:33.000 Targeted in what way?

00:42:34.000 Targeted by an active government who would do well to silence you.

00:42:38.000 Well, I think it's anybody's guess whether or not I'll be hauled out in front of the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal.

00:42:44.000 Those would be the logical people.

00:42:45.000 You would stand up comedians because they have their priorities in order.

00:42:48.000 Yes, exactly.

00:42:49.000 Well, comedians, they should be silenced, you know, especially the ones that aren't that funny.

00:42:53.000 Yes, exactly.

00:42:54.000 But that happened with Mike Ward.

00:42:56.000 I remember when I was doing stand-up, I was 17 in Montreal, we had Comedy Works, and everyone was going up there when Harper was elected, and they were just bitching about it and how they couldn't believe it.

00:43:05.000 And I was sitting there going, do you understand that these are the people who will devour you?

00:43:08.000 The liberals you claim to support, these people will devour you.

00:43:10.000 And they never got it.

00:43:11.000 And I think some of them are waking up now.

00:43:13.000 A lot of comedians just still think it's about progress, but I don't think Americans understand that.

00:43:18.000 When Amy Schumer and Elena Dunham say we're going to move to Canada, you're going to move to a place where a man was put in front of a human rights tribunal For offending a kid from a Make-A-Wish Foundation.

00:43:28.000 So I certainly think you'll at least be audited.

00:43:31.000 Yeah, well, I've been audited many times, so I'm sure that'll continue.

00:43:36.000 Like clockwork?

00:43:37.000 Partially audited.

00:43:39.000 Well, I guarantee you your Prime Minister knows who you are, because Canada's not as big of a place as the United States, and he seems very tech-savvy, so he's probably been on your YouTube.

00:43:48.000 I'm not sure he understood the more complicated parts.

00:43:51.000 No, I'm not sure he did either.

00:43:53.000 As a matter of fact, he's not really looking at YouTube.

00:43:55.000 He has his phone off and he's just using it as a mirror.

00:43:58.000 So it's easy to trick people.

00:44:01.000 I'm sorry I said something nasty about him, but what he said about Castro was unforgivable.

00:44:06.000 You must think you're somewhere else.

00:44:07.000 You don't need to apologize for speaking out of Justin Trudeau.

00:44:10.000 It's encouraged.

00:44:10.000 Well, it was kind of a cheap shot.

00:44:12.000 Well, it's not a cheap shot.

00:44:14.000 The cheap shot was the guy who knocked him out in sparring, but it wasn't even that cheap.

00:44:17.000 You said you were going to concentrate on that.

00:44:19.000 Yeah, we had to concentrate on that.

00:44:20.000 Let's do one more segment with Professor Jordan Peterson, and then we'll do a web extended, because I'm just learning so damn much.

00:44:27.000 You better be learning.

00:44:28.000 Take notes.

00:44:28.000 I am learning.

00:44:29.000 Take notes, not gay, Jared. 1.00

00:44:30.000 Music isn't in yet. 0.94

00:44:31.000 Where are we going?

00:44:32.000 I thought you said 10 seconds.

00:44:33.000 No, it's coming.

00:44:34.000 Are you wrong?

00:44:34.000 No, now it's 10 seconds.

00:44:36.000 Now it's 10 seconds?

00:44:37.000 Now it's 10 seconds.

00:44:38.000 Okay, alright.

00:44:40.000 You're fired.

00:44:40.000 Yeah.

00:44:41.000 And now, the recovered audition tapes from Barbie, starring Amy Schumer. the recovered audition tapes from Barbie, starring Amy Schumer.

00:45:01.000 Edward, thanks for coming in.

00:45:03.000 You'll be reading for the role of Ken.

00:45:06.000 And we'll take that theme song from the middle verse and action.

00:45:13.000 Come on Barbie, let's go party. 1.00

00:45:17.000 Come on Barbie, let's go party. 1.00

00:45:19.000 And the reveal on Amy and Barbie.

00:45:21.000 Come on Barbie, let's go party. 1.00

00:45:24.000 Now...

00:45:25.000 Come on, Barbie. 0.98

00:45:27.000 Let's go party.

00:45:29.000 Come on, Barbie. 0.98

00:45:30.000 Let's go party.

00:45:32.000 Come on, Barbie. 0.98

00:45:33.000 Let's go party.

00:45:34.000 You know what?

00:45:36.000 I don't think I'm right for this role.

00:45:38.000 No, you're doing great.

00:45:39.000 You're fantastic.

00:45:40.000 No, you know what?

00:45:40.000 I really just...

00:45:41.000 I don't feel...

00:45:42.000 I don't feel I'm right for...

00:45:44.000 I just don't think this is me.

00:45:46.000 No, keep going!

00:45:47.000 No, I really just...

00:45:47.000 I'm not feeling the motivation.

00:45:50.000 Well, we can pay you more money.

00:45:52.000 That's not about the money.

00:45:53.000 I'm going to go.

00:45:56.000 Let our EP know that we'll need a bigger budget in casting, Ken.

00:45:59.000 Okay, but you know, Amy's going to want to be paid equally. 1.00

00:46:02.000 Yeah, that's not going to happen.

00:46:04.000 Stay tuned for more recovered audition tapes from Barbie, starring Amy Schumer.

00:46:09.000 She can make babies. 1.00

00:46:38.000 My producer's horrible at getting adequate plugs in.

00:46:40.000 Thank you. 0.76

00:46:42.000 You should be ashamed of yourself.

00:46:44.000 Jordan Peterson, at Jordan B. Peterson on Twitter.

00:46:46.000 Jordan Peterson videos on YouTube.

00:46:47.000 Highly recommend it.

00:46:48.000 The guy's blowing up all over the place right now.

00:46:50.000 So you do have a program as well that you're in charge of.

00:46:53.000 You mean in terms of popularity?

00:46:55.000 Yes, I don't mean the refugees that you're taking in your country. 0.99

00:47:01.000 Because if you kill your enemies, they win, Jordan. 1.00

00:47:05.000 So you're creating this new program, the Future Authoring Program.

00:47:09.000 Tell us what that is.

00:47:10.000 So we've talked about your opinions and the controversy, but at the end of the day, what good is it unless you're giving back or you're helping?

00:47:15.000 What is this? 1.00

00:47:16.000 Shut off the damn espresso machine. 1.00

00:47:18.000 Continue, sorry, with your point. 1.00

00:47:20.000 Well, one of the things...

00:47:22.000 I wrote a book about 17 years ago called Maps of Meaning, and Maps of Meaning was an attempt to detail out what people should do instead of becoming ideologues or nihilists.

00:47:33.000 Right.

00:47:33.000 And because...

00:47:36.000 When you're searching for meaning, if you're detached from a traditional meaning system, like a religion, then you tend to move towards nihilism or towards a kind of ideological purity, like an authoritarianism.

00:47:48.000 And both of those seem like extraordinarily bad ideas.

00:47:50.000 If you're nihilistic, it's very hard to conjure up enough enthusiasm to keep living, because living is very difficult.

00:47:56.000 And if you're an ideological authoritarian, then you're extraordinarily dangerous.

00:48:01.000 It's funny that you say that, because obviously the argument from the New Atheists is that this sort of purity and this ideological authoritarianism would stem from religion.

00:48:11.000 No, yeah.

00:48:12.000 I wouldn't call them a particularly sophisticated group of thinkers.

00:48:16.000 Well, the first thing I would say about that is that you shouldn't blame religion for what's essentially a consequence of tribalism.

00:48:23.000 I think it's a good point.

00:48:24.000 Well, and it's easy to confuse those two things.

00:48:27.000 Chimpanzees go to war. 0.99

00:48:29.000 With each other?

00:48:30.000 Are you going to blame that on their religious beliefs?

00:48:32.000 Well, it depends on what headdress they're wearing.

00:48:35.000 So that was discovered by Jane Goodall back in the 1970s, and she actually didn't talk about that for a number of years because it shocked her so badly.

00:48:44.000 Even if you look at Native Americans who were to pantheistic people, where really it's not centered over religion specifically.

00:48:50.000 People, like you said, they've warred over territory, they've warred over goods and services.

00:48:54.000 Regardless of religion, but it's a formidable tool, a propaganda tool for people to misuse, and I think that that's often misconstrued as a valid argument.

00:49:02.000 It is.

00:49:03.000 Well, you have to get the locale of causality correct, if you're going to think about these things deeply.

00:49:08.000 Now, religion is a divisive force, but it's also a unifying force.

00:49:12.000 And so, you can argue about whether it's more divisive than unifying.

00:49:16.000 I think that's a foolish argument in some sense, because I think it depends on the situation, and it depends on the religion, and it depends on the historical context, and all of those things.

00:49:25.000 But Christianity united people under the rubric of Christianity, and Buddhism united people under the rubric of Buddhism.

00:49:31.000 And the thing is, for large groups of people to come together to interact and to communicate and to cooperate, they have to be able to do that under a shared value system.

00:49:40.000 Now the problem is that group A that has a shared value system might want to go to war with group B that has a different shared value system.

00:49:48.000 But you can't blame that on the shared value systems.

00:49:53.000 Because if without a shared value system, then every single individual is at war with every other individual and that's really not an improvement.

00:49:59.000 Can you blame it on the shared value system though?

00:50:01.000 I think we'd probably find some common ground with Islam when that shared value system involves killing everyone who doesn't share that value system. 1.00

00:50:08.000 Well, that's the issue.

00:50:09.000 The issue is whether or not you can distinguish between a value system that's proper, like a game that everyone can play, and one that isn't proper, like a game that becomes murderous.

00:50:20.000 And partly what I did when I wrote Maps of Meaning was to try to sort that out.

00:50:23.000 But anyways, one of the consequences of that was that it struck me very Powerfully that individual development was the right alternative to nihilism and to ideological possession and so that the right way for people to move forward if they want to improve the world is to improve their characters and their skill set and their ability to communicate and their strength and their courage and all of those things and I designed some programs with my lab and with some business partners of mine including my old advisor at McGill University,

00:50:51.000 Robert Peel and a student of mine from Harvard, Daniel Higgins.

00:50:54.000 We developed this program called the Self-Authoring Program And one element of it is the Future Authoring Program, which we now have a Christmas special on, by the way.

00:51:04.000 And the Future Authoring Program helps people write a vision for their future, and a counter vision, and then a plan.

00:51:11.000 And so the program, which is a writing program, because writing helps people think, and thinking restructures their brain and their personality.

00:51:20.000 The program helps people detail out a vision of their future three to five years down the road, and so it asks you some very pointed questions, like, imagine that you were trying to treat yourself properly, like someone you cared for and were taken care of, and you were going to set up a future for that person three to five years down the road.

00:51:38.000 What would your family relationships look like?

00:51:41.000 Maybe, how would you improve your relationship with your father and your mother and your siblings?

00:51:45.000 Because that's always important to people.

00:51:47.000 What would your career goals look like?

00:51:49.000 What are your educational plans?

00:51:51.000 How would you handle drug and alcohol use?

00:51:53.000 Because that does a lot of people in.

00:51:55.000 How would you take care of your mental and physical health?

00:51:57.000 And so on.

00:51:58.000 So we made the questions very specific.

00:52:00.000 And then we asked people to write for 15 minutes about What they could have in their life and how they could act if things were going right for them.

00:52:08.000 And then we ask them to do the reverse, which is to write for 15 minutes about what kind of hell their life could turn into if they let all their bad habits and resentments and poor choices aggregate and consume them.

00:52:19.000 And everyone knows that.

00:52:21.000 Okay, Jared.

00:52:22.000 I hope you're listening.

00:52:24.000 Well, I can tell.

00:52:25.000 Three years down the road, he sees himself in the middle of a road, so it's not a good place to go.

00:52:29.000 Well, I could tell when I came in here that he was a very troubled person, and I can see why you make fun of him a lot, and why he puts up with it.

00:52:37.000 Well, yeah, he has no...

00:52:38.000 Again, that middle of the road is not a place he wants to be, so the studio is better.

00:52:41.000 Well, I suspect he also doesn't have that many other choices.

00:52:43.000 This is true.

00:52:44.000 So maybe your program isn't as useful because the Choose Your Own Path...

00:52:47.000 Actually, no, that actually turns out to be wrong, because what we found is the program is the more apart at the seams someone is, roughly speaking, the better the program actually seems to work.

00:52:58.000 And so imagine what's happening is that people are articulating out a kind of personal hell that they could avoid, and a personal heaven that they could attain to, so to speak.

00:53:12.000 And that means Often people are afraid to move forward.

00:53:15.000 They're afraid of what might happen if they move forward, if they make choices.

00:53:18.000 But what this program does is help put the fears behind them, pushing them.

00:53:22.000 Because maybe, and I do this in my clinical practice, someone might tell me about why they're afraid of making choices and making changes.

00:53:29.000 And then I ask them, well maybe you should be more afraid of what will happen if you don't do that.

00:53:34.000 And that's really helpful, because lots of times inaction really, really hurts people.

00:53:38.000 And so we're helping people understand why their failure to act could put them in a place they really don't want to be.

00:53:44.000 And then we're also helping them outline a goal.

00:53:46.000 Now, the way the human mind is organized, and this is true for animals to some degree too, is that most of the positive emotion that we experience in our life, most of the pleasure that we experience, is actually experienced in relationship to a valued goal.

00:54:00.000 So, for example, you're most likely to be happy when you see that you're progressing towards something that you want.

00:54:05.000 Well, that assumes that there's something that you want.

00:54:09.000 And so, if you haven't laid out a structure That's a structure of ambition in some sort with a high value at the top.

00:54:15.000 It's very difficult for you to take any pleasure in your life.

00:54:18.000 Well, that's the dopamine reward system, right?

00:54:20.000 That's right, that is the dopamine reward system.

00:54:21.000 Now, why do you know that?

00:54:22.000 That's exactly right.

00:54:23.000 I know that because I've had a lot of help and I'm pretty messed up.

00:54:25.000 And I will say this, you know, people are very over-prescribed and over-diagnosed and I went through actual genetic testing and did have, you know, I've talked about this on here, but severe ADHD in a way where I just would accomplish something and would feel very tired.

00:54:36.000 I just didn't really see pleasure in a lot of things.

00:54:39.000 And I took a long time to work on that and kind of discover that about myself.

00:54:43.000 But I learned all about that, you know, and I also learned about negative habits.

00:54:46.000 Now you can create a neural pathway, you know, basically where you develop a habit to this is the path toward pleasure and that's how you see proclivities toward addiction with Gary Wilson on with pornography.

00:54:55.000 Yeah, well, okay, so what happens is part of the reason that people are prone to addiction is because they don't have any proper non-addictive pleasures in their life.

00:55:03.000 So here's an example.

00:55:05.000 If you take laboratory rats and you isolate them so they're living alone in a cage, it's really easy to get them addicted to cocaine.

00:55:12.000 But if you take the same rats and you leave them in a naturalistic environment, they'll pick natural rat activities over cocaine.

00:55:18.000 It's very difficult to get them addicted.

00:55:19.000 So that makes sense with why all the Wall Street bankers have the crack problem.

00:55:23.000 Yes, that's right. 0.88

00:55:24.000 You're saying they're isolated rats? 0.98

00:55:26.000 I'm just saying they're all rats, pretty much.

00:55:28.000 But not natural rats. 0.97

00:55:30.000 You're compared more to lab rats. 0.97

00:55:32.000 Yes, abnormal rats. 1.00

00:55:33.000 Well, they should be the rats of Wall Street. 0.61

00:55:35.000 So we've had about 5,000 university students, 5,000 to 7,000 university students now do this program, although it's not only for university students.

00:55:43.000 They've just been our target program.

00:55:45.000 By the way, for people listening, so if they want to be helped, where can they find this or learn about this?

00:55:49.000 Because it sounds very helpful.

00:55:50.000 They can go to a site called selfauthoring.com.

00:55:53.000 S-E-L-F, authoring, as in writing books.

00:55:56.000 Well, this is very important because when people, you know, you have all these sort of self-help gurus online or, you know, teaching young men how to be alpha males or this I'm sure you know red-pilling, which is great, waking up, but it doesn't really go beyond that.

00:56:07.000 I hope that some people out there really do hear what this guy has to say and go to this site and go beyond just, it's great to learn that social justice worries have been lying to you for a long time, and it's great to talk about that, but there is a next step.

00:56:18.000 Yes, and then the right next step.

00:56:20.000 I really, I truly believe this, I truly believe this, that the right next step for people is to turn themselves into strong citizens.

00:56:28.000 And strong means they're not afraid.

00:56:31.000 And they have a goal, and they're pursuing it, and their lives are meaningful, and they're meaningful because they're pursuing something that's important.

00:56:38.000 Yeah.

00:56:39.000 What if they're pursuing, like, sex hormone replacement therapy, though, and ironically, your self-help program creates a giant super tranny? 0.96

00:56:47.000 Hmm.

00:56:48.000 Well, I can't say that that's a problem that we've really ever thought about.

00:56:53.000 I also have to say that it's probably one that we won't be giving any serious consideration.

00:56:59.000 Well, I'm just saying, what if you help the wrong person, right?

00:57:02.000 That's always the We've raised the university students' performance who've done this program.

00:57:15.000 We've raised their grade point average, roughly speaking, 25%, and dropped their dropout rate 20%.

00:57:21.000 And we've done that in several different institutions.

00:57:23.000 And here's what's really cool, I think, and this was very surprising to me, it came out of the research, is that The worse the students were doing, the better the program worked.

00:57:32.000 And the biggest effect so far has been on males versus females, because males are underperforming women in most educational institutions.

00:57:39.000 This eliminates the sex difference in performance.

00:57:42.000 And the people it's helped most have been minority males.

00:57:45.000 And it's helped them so much that we've obliterated the performance difference between the minority males in Holland and the Dutch national females.

00:57:53.000 Wow.

00:57:54.000 Yes, yes.

00:57:55.000 So it's very, very cool.

00:57:57.000 Jordan Peterson videos on YouTube.

00:57:58.000 We're going to do a web extended version.

00:57:59.000 This is fascinating stuff.

00:58:00.000 Thank you so much for being with us.

00:58:01.000 Stay with us on the digital sphere.

00:58:03.000 Lotter with Crowder.

00:58:04.000 Stay tuned.

00:58:05.000 Why are you here? 0.97

00:58:19.000 I'm your not gay Jared on the shelf. 0.99

00:58:21.000 I come complimentary with every mug club set up now through Christmas. 0.81

00:58:24.000 Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na! 0.98

00:58:27.000 It's better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all.

00:58:47.000 Come cheer up my nights.

00:58:49.000 Come cheer up my nights.

00:58:51.000 It's better to have love at last.

00:58:54.000 It's better to have love at last.

00:58:58.000 Captain John Rook, God, and ever to have love at all the Federation Starship.

00:59:03.000 Come cheer up my nights.

00:59:04.000 Come cheer up my legs That song, of course, coming from Pogo.

00:59:09.000 Is my microphone working properly now?

00:59:11.000 It's properly working.

00:59:12.000 Jared will be fired.

00:59:13.000 NotKayJarod will be fired.

00:59:13.000 Send all your hate tweets at NotKayJarod.

00:59:15.000 For those who didn't know, yeah, that was a pre-tape with Jordan Peterson because he came from Canada.

00:59:19.000 He actually stopped here on his way back to Canada.

00:59:21.000 And when he stopped here, we were waiting for some stuff to come back in for the studio.

00:59:25.000 I apologize for those listening terrestrially.

00:59:28.000 We'll do our best to equalize it here before the podcast on the weekend.

00:59:31.000 We should be good going forward, though, right, Jared?

00:59:33.000 Should be good.

00:59:34.000 Listen, I know we hate to fool you.

00:59:34.000 Yeah.

00:59:36.000 We have to pre-tip every now and then, especially with a Canadian, because they're friendly and we want to do what they say.

00:59:41.000 Coming up after this segment, Michelle Malkin.

00:59:43.000 Then we have Dr. 0.99

00:59:44.000 Ben Carson and Gavin McInnes, which is good.

00:59:47.000 So I have this up on my screen here.

00:59:49.000 Amy Schumer's Barbie, yay or nay?

00:59:50.000 And we've read the results.

00:59:51.000 3% said yay.

00:59:52.000 That's kind of rough.

00:59:53.000 31% said nay.

00:59:54.000 66% said vomiting induced.

00:59:57.000 I don't want to say predictable results.

00:59:59.000 Yeah.

01:00:00.000 That was...

01:00:01.000 The vomiting had already come in.

01:00:02.000 It's all I'm coming.

01:00:02.000 I don't want to be smart.

01:00:03.000 I know what some of you are saying.

01:00:07.000 Steven, isn't that body shaming?

01:00:10.000 Mm-hmm.

01:00:11.000 So we're going to have Michelle Malkin coming up next. 1.00

01:00:14.000 Speaking of shame, we were talking about this earlier in the program, and now we have the audio.

01:00:20.000 Not KJard thought it was a joke.

01:00:22.000 He thought it was a parody when this happened.

01:00:24.000 Because Baby It's Cold Outside, one of our most beloved Christmas songs, is now being ruined by social justice warriors, of course.

01:00:34.000 Everything is, right?

01:00:35.000 Time Magazine, we're offended at documentation.

01:00:37.000 How could you put Trump on a magazine?

01:00:39.000 How could you?

01:00:40.000 Well, because he was the most influential person that year.

01:00:42.000 He became president.

01:00:43.000 Was one of the biggest underdogs in modern history to become president.

01:00:46.000 Boycott!

01:00:47.000 Boycott!

01:00:49.000 And now we have, Baby It's Cold Outside, a nice love song, a romantic song, about a man trying to woo a woman at a party with a beautiful and storied history in American culture.

01:00:58.000 They said it was too sexually aggressive, and they decided to rewrite it.

01:01:03.000 Two people from Minnesota focusing on consent and rape culture, and it's as awful as you think it would be.

01:01:09.000 Let's listen.

01:01:10.000 You're talking about You reserve the right to say no At least I'm gonna say that I do You reserve the right to say no I really can't stay Well, you don't have to Oh, but it's coming down Oh, you didn't have the line in there about the pomegranate LaCroix?

01:01:31.000 I couldn't.

01:01:31.000 That's why I thought it was a parody!

01:01:34.000 Okay.

01:01:35.000 First off, the song was never about rape.

01:01:37.000 Let's think about this.

01:01:38.000 At least I can say that I've tried.

01:01:40.000 I ought to say no, no, no.

01:01:43.000 Right?

01:01:43.000 She's talking about her parents getting mad.

01:01:45.000 She's talking about trying to play it hard to get.

01:01:48.000 Being coy, I ought to say no, no, no.

01:01:50.000 They try to claim what's in this drink automatically means Bill Cosby's coming up to rape because of the muscle cell when all it means, potentially, I like this drink.

01:02:00.000 What is this? 0.54

01:02:01.000 Let's downplay the joy of playing hard to get with rape, though.

01:02:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:06.000 I mean...

01:02:06.000 She was at the moment when she honored the Maxwell House!

01:02:14.000 So, it's just like shooting fish in a barrel, rape, Bill Cosby jokes. 0.97

01:02:17.000 And I'll never stop. 0.95

01:02:18.000 I'll never stop, and I won't apologize. 0.54

01:02:19.000 By the way, if you go to CRTV and say, by the way, your guy Stephen Crowder made rape jokes tonight.

01:02:24.000 They already know.

01:02:26.000 They already know.

01:02:28.000 They saw this ride.

01:02:29.000 They bought a ticket anyway.

01:02:31.000 So the song is not about rape, but it is about a man trying to woo a woman and a woman trying to play hard to get. 0.51

01:02:39.000 It's the dance that is love.

01:02:41.000 It's the dance of romance, right?

01:02:44.000 And let me tell you something.

01:02:45.000 I ought to say no, no, no.

01:02:47.000 A couple of drinks, does that make it easier?

01:02:49.000 Does that lower inhibitions?

01:02:50.000 Some would say that's by design.

01:02:52.000 And some would say that people enjoy that.

01:02:55.000 Listen, let me tell you something.

01:02:56.000 I do that with my wife.

01:02:58.000 I know I'm not raping her, and more often she does it to me. 0.91

01:03:00.000 You get a couple of glasses of wine or cider, And my wife is all of a sudden really fun. 1.00

01:03:07.000 She's a good-time gal. 0.65

01:03:09.000 You see, I'm just saying, what I'm talking about is there's nothing wrong with this if it's consensual.

01:03:13.000 And at no point did anyone assume that this wasn't consensual because this comes from a time where a man would pursue a woman.

01:03:19.000 She liked to be pursued.

01:03:20.000 She liked the person to be a gentleman.

01:03:21.000 She liked the man to make the drinks. 1.00

01:03:23.000 And she didn't assume that he was a sexual predator out to rape her and create a new orifice. 0.99

01:03:30.000 A simpler era, some might say. 0.90

01:03:34.000 And do you have any idea how many Americans across the country are guilty of rape if it's a couple of drinks?

01:03:39.000 And oh, maybe I shouldn't.

01:03:41.000 One thing escalates to another.

01:03:45.000 Give my wife a couple of gin and tonics. 1.00

01:03:46.000 Myself a couple of gin and tonics. 0.99

01:03:47.000 Next thing I know, I wake up with a velour glove next to the bed and my ass hurts. 0.99

01:03:50.000 I have no idea what happened and my wife is to blame. 0.99

01:03:53.000 Not myself.

01:03:54.000 Not Gay Jared's going. 1.00

01:03:55.000 She's going to call.

01:03:56.000 I can see his face right now.

01:03:58.000 Not what you think.

01:04:00.000 Get your minds out of the gutter. 0.97

01:04:02.000 Talking light spanking. 0.63

01:04:07.000 This one's just too perfect, too. 0.58

01:04:09.000 Okay, here's another story.

01:04:09.000 So we've ruined Baby It's Cold Outside.

01:04:11.000 There are so many songs we can get into.

01:04:13.000 And you know what?

01:04:13.000 Listen, I'm just not going to do it.

01:04:15.000 I'm not going to admit it.

01:04:16.000 And it's sick and it's twisted that you're having kids grow up in a world where you have to listen to everything and go, oh, this romance song? 0.99

01:04:22.000 Maybe he's raping her. 0.98

01:04:23.000 Michael Douglas in Romancing the Stone? 1.00

01:04:25.000 That's sexual assault. 0.97

01:04:27.000 Princess Bride? 1.00

01:04:28.000 My gosh, might as well be a prison gang rape. 0.98

01:04:30.000 What are these people thinking? 0.95

01:04:34.000 They see rape in everything.

01:04:36.000 They see the world through a prism of rape. 0.98

01:04:40.000 Like a kaleidoscope of just women being raped non-stop when they rotate it. 0.99

01:04:47.000 It's like an LSD trip of rape. 0.98

01:04:50.000 You know what a kaleidoscope is, right? 0.95

01:04:52.000 I do.

01:04:53.000 Silver tuna tonight!

01:04:55.000 This one is perfect. 0.81

01:04:58.000 So a fat kid. 0.93

01:04:59.000 It actually doesn't seem that fat in his defense. 1.00

01:05:01.000 Santa Claus, who's a jerk, right? 1.00

01:05:04.000 Santa Claus here is a jerk in this scenario. 1.00

01:05:07.000 Tells the kid he might want to lay off the cheeseburger and fries or something. 1.00

01:05:09.000 You know, probably had a bad day.

01:05:11.000 Obviously unprofessional.

01:05:14.000 But the Santa had to resign.

01:05:16.000 It became a national story.

01:05:17.000 And I was sitting there with Not Gay Jared and Aaron when we were working and pulling together clips.

01:05:22.000 And I will say, I had them about urinating themselves.

01:05:25.000 Before we watched the clip, I just love it.

01:05:27.000 I love it, these stories.

01:05:28.000 Whenever there's something that's so absurdly silly, but local news has to cover it seriously.

01:05:32.000 So I sat there and said, before I play this clip, well, this Santa Claus was spreading anything but holiday cheer.

01:05:39.000 When he told little Johnny to lay off the burgers and fries.

01:05:42.000 I thought I was semi-accurate.

01:05:45.000 Here's the actual report.

01:05:47.000 Just for laughs.

01:05:47.000 He says Santa body shamed him.

01:05:49.000 Here's what happened.

01:05:51.000 Nine-year-old Anthony May says he went to sit on Santa's lap and he asked for an iPod Touch and a drone for Christmas.

01:05:57.000 But when he got up to leave, he says Santa told him to be a good boy and lay off the hamburgers and french fries.

01:06:06.000 Alright, listen. 1.00

01:06:08.000 I think that Santa Claus is a jerk fired great. 0.99

01:06:11.000 But the fact that this makes it into our national news cycle tells you about today's current outrage culture. 1.00

01:06:15.000 But there is something just mercilessly funny about a local crappy network being forced to cover an entirely silly issue seriously.

01:06:28.000 And today at the Squirtle water skiing event... 0.86

01:06:31.000 Young nut gatherer took a dime.

01:06:34.000 It's just they have to do this.

01:06:36.000 I don't know why.

01:06:37.000 Whenever I've seen local news, half the time I go, why is this still on? 0.51

01:06:41.000 You know, you get your local news from your local site, your weather, and it's just silly.

01:06:46.000 So I don't know.

01:06:48.000 It was just one of the things that was really funny.

01:06:49.000 We have Michelle Malkin coming up after the break. 0.99

01:06:51.000 She's fetching. 1.00

01:06:52.000 She's fetching. 1.00

01:06:53.000 Hey, Jared, what are you doing? 0.98

01:07:06.000 Shooting bad guys. 0.73

01:07:08.000 With what? 0.60

01:07:08.000 By AR-15. 0.60

01:07:09.000 Where'd you get it?

01:07:10.000 AR-15.com.

01:07:12.000 Enunciate it more clearly so our audience can hear.

01:07:15.000 AR-15.com.

01:07:16.000 That's better.

01:07:17.000 They sell guns now?

01:07:19.000 Yeah, they do.

01:07:20.000 Are they any good?

01:07:21.000 They're the best.

01:07:22.000 Where from?

01:07:23.000 AR-15.com.

01:07:25.000 You really make that sound?

01:07:27.000 They're not the budget for sound effects.

01:07:28.000 Oh, there's another one!

01:07:32.000 You got him!

01:07:33.000 With what?

01:07:34.000 By AR-15!

01:07:35.000 From where?

01:07:36.000 AR-15.com.

01:07:37.000 Hey, how do you know they're bad guys?

01:07:39.000 They're birds and burkas. 1.00

01:07:40.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:07:40.000 That's racist! 0.99

01:07:42.000 That's racist!

01:08:12.000 This is a nice lady, great guest.

01:08:14.000 She was one of our first guests on the program.

01:08:16.000 I couldn't be more excited to see her name on the marquee at CRTV, where I will be.

01:08:21.000 People who are Mug Club members already know will be launching Daily Crowder at CRTV. The Mug Club, you get access to all of it. 0.96

01:08:27.000 She has a new show out, Michelle Malkin Investigates.

01:08:29.000 Mrs.

01:08:30.000 Malkin, thank you for being here.

01:08:32.000 Crowder, thank you for having me.

01:08:32.000 Mr.

01:08:33.000 Look at you.

01:08:35.000 Now, is this just you wake up like this, or are you at a studio right now because you're embarrassing me?

01:08:39.000 Well, you know, I wasn't foxified.

01:08:41.000 That was all the past couple of days.

01:08:43.000 I just came down to D.C. from New York, so I don't have the fluttering eyelash thing.

01:08:48.000 Being Foxified is nowhere near as dangerous as it used to be now that Roger Ailes is out.

01:08:53.000 But we are very...

01:08:54.000 Gosh.

01:08:55.000 Okay.

01:08:56.000 I will hush, but he didn't.

01:08:58.000 And that's the problem.

01:08:59.000 So we're glad to have...

01:09:00.000 So you have this show, Michelle Malkin Investigates, for people who don't know.

01:09:02.000 So we've got Marc Levin, Marc Stein, you know, they'll be doing these daily shows.

01:09:05.000 I love the daily show.

01:09:06.000 People kind of know what that looks like and how embarrassing it is.

01:09:09.000 Yours is different.

01:09:11.000 Yeah.

01:09:11.000 When I've described it to people, it's kind of like a...

01:09:14.000 Michelle does sort of a 48 hours. 1.00

01:09:17.000 She goes through and investigates some of these, I guess, cases that people don't know a whole lot about.

01:09:23.000 Kind of making...

01:09:24.000 Was it how to make a murder, Jared, or making a murderer?

01:09:28.000 Making of a murderer.

01:09:29.000 Making of a murderer.

01:09:29.000 Making of a murderer, only no cats get thrown over a fire dipped in turpentine.

01:09:34.000 How would you describe it?

01:09:37.000 Well, I would say that it is the right-thinking version of Frontline on PBS, or what would happen if 60 Minutes wasn't faking news.

01:09:46.000 So no Emmys in your future.

01:09:49.000 Yeah.

01:09:50.000 So, you know, I mean, I've been doing daily opinion and news journalism now for 25 years, and this is something I've always, always, always wanted to do, have the time and space to go much deeper.

01:10:04.000 Than in just any single column or blog post or four minutes on cable TV. And so a lot of the topics actually stem from, in fact, this whole season of what will be a total of 13 shows come from my ideas, my past work, product, my sources.

01:10:23.000 And we've released the first four episodes.

01:10:27.000 They're available.

01:10:28.000 Can I show a clip for people who haven't seen it and then we'll come back?

01:10:31.000 Please do.

01:10:32.000 There we go.

01:10:33.000 Okay, let's show a clip so you can see what it's about.

01:10:35.000 And then there's a specific case I'd like to talk about after this.

01:10:37.000 Jared, do your job.

01:10:37.000 Roll the clip.

01:10:38.000 An all-new Michelle Malkin investigates.

01:10:41.000 The government trading visas for Chinese cash.

01:10:44.000 Liberals like Bernie Sanders, they're all for benefiting the rich as long as the government is running the program.

01:10:51.000 One Vermont town is caught in the crosshairs.

01:10:53.000 This is the biggest EB-5 fraud in the country.

01:10:56.000 The fact that they were calling in a hole in the ground was a deep concern for city officials.

01:11:00.000 I call it an economic disaster.

01:11:02.000 The dark world of EB-5.

01:11:05.000 MMI is all-new on CRTV. My first question is, did you meet the guy who does the Dark World voiceover?

01:11:12.000 No, he's like some disembodied voice somewhere in a classified location.

01:11:18.000 He's a head in a jar, you pay a nickel to see in a tent.

01:11:21.000 I should hire you to do it.

01:11:24.000 I could do it.

01:11:25.000 I could change my voice.

01:11:27.000 But then the problem is, you know, then your time is not your own every time a new drama comes out.

01:11:31.000 There's a case that I was reading about.

01:11:33.000 I know you've done some episodes on this.

01:11:35.000 So Daniel Holtzclaw.

01:11:36.000 I think this is very...

01:11:37.000 Am I pronouncing it right?

01:11:39.000 Yes.

01:11:39.000 Holtzclaw?

01:11:40.000 Okay, so this is a case a lot of people maybe don't know about, and it relates specifically to Black Lives Matter, and why a lot of people may have...

01:11:48.000 Well, you delivered misinformation in how cases and rulings and charges can be politically motivated.

01:11:55.000 Why don't you...

01:11:55.000 I'm probably butchering it.

01:11:58.000 In fact, you've set it up exactly right with the context here, because the trial of former police officer In Oklahoma City, Daniel Holtzclaw occurred exactly in the immediate aftermath of the Ferguson riots.

01:11:58.000 No, no, no.

01:12:14.000 And that was a huge cloud that hung over the jury, the prosecutors, the police chief who threw Daniel under the bus and fired him months before he even had his day in the court of law.

01:12:28.000 We've seen this narrative so many times.

01:12:32.000 Stephen, of the social justice mob, the witch hunts that occur before the truth is actually known.

01:12:38.000 And so when I saw this verdict announced a year ago this weekend, actually, December 10th, I just, you know, even I just assumed that Daniel must be guilty because of the sheer number of accusations, charges, and accusers that were involved.

01:12:53.000 Was it 13 accusations of rape?

01:12:55.000 Something like that?

01:12:56.000 It was 13 accusers and a total of 36 charges.

01:13:00.000 The jury ended up convicting on exactly half of them.

01:13:04.000 And as one of the police detectives who was in the lead of what I consider manufacturing the case admitted to me on camera, and it's in the show, the jury just, quote-unquote, split the baby on the verdicts.

01:13:15.000 This is not how justice is supposed to occur in America, and there's so much more to it.

01:13:21.000 Stephen, I find it to be so alarming, and you've known me for so long.

01:13:27.000 You know the kinds of stories that I've told.

01:13:30.000 This is the most important story of my career that I've ever covered.

01:13:35.000 It is the most massive, monstrous miscarriage of justice, and I feel so inspired to continue telling the story, and I feel so blessed that CRTV is giving me a platform to do it.

01:13:48.000 It's amazing.

01:13:48.000 Let me ask you this.

01:13:50.000 So, because you said 36 counts.

01:13:52.000 So I'm like, Bill Cosby at a certain moment, well, you know what, this lady could be trying to, once it was like, you know, I don't know, 189, you're like, ah, okay, even if a quarter of them.

01:14:01.000 But in this case, are you presupposing that you don't think this guy did any of it?

01:14:05.000 Or you think he did a portion of it?

01:14:07.000 Just so people kind of, you know, because they hear, okay, Black Lives Matter, a guy convicted of these horrible crimes.

01:14:12.000 What's the real cover up?

01:14:13.000 What do you think he did, if anything?

01:14:17.000 Well, my personal opinion is that he's completely innocent of everything that he was accused of, but I don't want people to just take my word for it, and I think that's the new paradigm here and the difference between so much of what the mainstream media does.

01:14:31.000 I want people to look more into the case, and so does Daniel, just to merely open their minds up, and we've given them a platter of original source documents And what's amazing about these two shows is the amount of the discovery material, the actual video and audio of some of these accusers, and how outrageously outlandish their stories were.

01:14:53.000 In one case, and this is just one case, Stephen, there was one woman who had denied seven times, and we have it on tape, denied seven times that anything Whatever inappropriate had happened between her and any police officer, and then when the sex crime detectives tell her, oh, by the way, we're looking for victims of sexual assault involving a police officer that you might have encountered, all of a sudden she He remembers it.

01:15:18.000 Twelve of these accusers only came forward after the original woman had accused him, and it was that huge circus and publicity and aftermath that caused so many of these women, and even one man who was so ridiculous that even the police department had to exclude him from trial, and this is how the snowball happened.

01:15:38.000 Yeah, he saw some publicity.

01:15:39.000 He said, I can get in on this.

01:15:40.000 They said, no, you can't.

01:15:41.000 But that's illegal.

01:15:42.000 So why would a judge go along with this?

01:15:46.000 I mean, people obviously, they go with the making of a murderer, right?

01:15:49.000 And so that's easy because it's kind of, I talked about how I was pushing this narrative and the people who were involved with the film leaned left.

01:15:55.000 In this case, people right away are going to want to side with the Black Lives Matter antenna go up.

01:16:00.000 What you're describing is highly illegal, if not at least unethical.

01:16:05.000 How do people go along with that, on that kind of a magnitude?

01:16:10.000 Well, we've seen what the snowball effect is.

01:16:13.000 As we said, we talked about this cloud that was hanging over the case.

01:16:16.000 There were Black Lives Matter activists and Black Panther Party activists in their full paramilitary regalia.

01:16:24.000 During the trial, chanting inside and outside the courtroom, they were giving racial threats to Daniel's lawyer, his family.

01:16:36.000 There were phones that had to be confiscated during the trial because there were activists who were taking pictures of the jury.

01:16:46.000 How did it happen?

01:16:47.000 Moral cowardice.

01:16:48.000 Yeah.

01:16:49.000 And fear and intimidation and bullying, which you have covered so well on all of these so-called safe spaces in the campus environment.

01:16:56.000 I think you're taking it to something that people experience, right?

01:16:56.000 What?

01:16:58.000 And it's one thing to make it sort of fun on YouTube.

01:17:01.000 We were talking about this earlier in the program.

01:17:03.000 Being banned from college campus now has become like, you know, sort of this cottage industry.

01:17:07.000 I think someone wrote that this week.

01:17:09.000 I don't want to claim it as my own, but that's why I just stopped doing colleges because I always wanted to tell people.

01:17:12.000 I always did stand-up.

01:17:13.000 I was like, ah, listen, if this is going to happen...

01:17:15.000 When I had Black Lives Matter fact-check my jokes, I think it was like Cal Poly, and then I saw on the paper, like, Stephen gave hate speech and said, you know what?

01:17:23.000 Okay, this is totally false.

01:17:24.000 I have no control over it.

01:17:26.000 It's not worth my time.

01:17:27.000 But it was published and people believed it.

01:17:29.000 That's just me telling a few naughty jokes.

01:17:31.000 But then you expand it to crimes.

01:17:33.000 I can certainly see how in a politically charged environment, especially where they're going, we've got to give this mob something, You know, this can happen, but I know most Americans don't want to believe it.

01:17:44.000 No, they don't.

01:17:45.000 The bottom line in this case is that there wasn't a single corroborating witness to these alleged 36 assaults.

01:17:53.000 There wasn't a single direct piece of poetic evidence tying Daniel to any of these crime scenes of which there were allegedly dozens.

01:18:03.000 And so I know it sounds so unbelievable.

01:18:06.000 It is.

01:18:07.000 It is so incredible to think that this could happen.

01:18:11.000 But we already know in the context of a lot of these social justice witch hunts going back decades, that of course it's possible.

01:18:19.000 And what's entirely chilling, of course, Stephen, is that if this could be done to a police officer, it could be done to anyone.

01:18:28.000 Yes.

01:18:28.000 It can even be done to a short Filipino-American woman.

01:18:32.000 Sure.

01:18:33.000 Or a guy with a show on YouTube that's mildly popular.

01:18:37.000 And they've done it.

01:18:38.000 I mean, it really is unreal.

01:18:39.000 And that's what we've talked about.

01:18:42.000 There's one side that always wants to stifle dissent.

01:18:45.000 There's one side that always wants their way.

01:18:47.000 There's one side that wants no voices.

01:18:49.000 And you see that with Black Lives Matter. 0.96

01:18:50.000 What was it this week?

01:18:51.000 It was...

01:18:52.000 Gosh, you saw it, Joe.

01:18:53.000 It was Tommy Loren, the guy who can't stand her over there at the Breakfast Club, I think.

01:18:57.000 What's his name?

01:18:58.000 Charlemagne?

01:18:59.000 Charlemagne?

01:18:59.000 That's right.

01:18:59.000 I don't know.

01:19:00.000 One of those stupid, ridiculous names these people give themselves. 1.00

01:19:02.000 And he was just like, oh, you know what? 1.00

01:19:03.000 I completely disagree with her, but I'm going to be friends with her and try and change her mind.

01:19:06.000 It's just article after article where you cannot discuss with white supremacists.

01:19:10.000 And when you're starting from that baseline...

01:19:13.000 Well, then anything's allowable.

01:19:14.000 And so you wonder how many judges, how many prosecutors, how many people in a jury are just starting with that baseline of misinformation.

01:19:21.000 And then you connect the dots and say, well, I guess I can see how this happens.

01:19:25.000 Right.

01:19:25.000 And, you know, it's bizarre to try to fit this case into their normal black line.

01:19:30.000 I matter black and white frame, but Daniel is half Japanese and he grew up in a multiracial family and yet they cast him as some sort of KKK white supremacist Robert Byrd type predator out there on the streets.

01:19:48.000 It absolutely made no sense.

01:19:51.000 The police detectives got it in their mind. 0.87

01:19:54.000 Serial rapist, predator, racist, when they had absolutely no professional or assessment to go on, they went back to his high school days to try to find anybody. 0.94

01:20:07.000 They scoured his entire life to find anybody who could vouch for their opinion that he was misogynist and that he was violent. 0.99

01:20:16.000 They couldn't find a single person.

01:20:19.000 How is that even possible?

01:20:21.000 You could go back, like, this week for me, and I would be completely ineligible for state senator.

01:20:27.000 It wouldn't even be...

01:20:27.000 You could take this interview.

01:20:28.000 Did you not make a sexual harassment joke about the...

01:20:31.000 Well, yeah, I guess you got me.

01:20:33.000 And this guy didn't have anyone?

01:20:35.000 No.

01:20:36.000 And, you know, what's important here, of course, and this is in the context of so many of your viewers who might...

01:20:43.000 Be it to law enforcement officers, family members, or LEOs themselves, is that you know that people lie all the time.

01:20:50.000 And in fact, I got the sex crime detective, who was one of the two who led this case, to admit to me that, yes, all the time people lie for vision, to get their charges dropped.

01:21:02.000 And these kind of trades go on all the time between DAs and people in some of the inner cities.

01:21:09.000 Northeast Oklahoma City was a neighborhood that Daniel patrolled on.

01:21:12.000 And yes, he had been subject to a number of excessive force complaints, but he was exonerated and cleared in every single one.

01:21:21.000 And at the same time, of course, you had many of these women who were proven liars with criminal records who were making these outlandish allegations against him.

01:21:30.000 Well, hold that thought.

01:21:31.000 We will have you on for one more segment to talk about this.

01:21:33.000 And we'll make some outlandish allegations against not gay. 0.95

01:21:37.000 Jared, hint, they're true.

01:21:38.000 Liderworth Kreider, CRTV, Michelle Malkin Investigates.

01:21:40.000 Stay tuned.

01:21:41.000 Stay tuned.

01:21:57.000 Okay, Robert, reading for the role of Ken.

01:22:00.000 We appreciate it.

01:22:01.000 And we will do the restaurant scene that you see in the sides.

01:22:07.000 Great.

01:22:07.000 Glad to be here.

01:22:08.000 Okay, the scene is you are waiting at the restaurant.

01:22:10.000 Ken, you've had a long day driving in your convertible.

01:22:14.000 You're waiting for Barbie to show up.

01:22:17.000 And action.

01:22:19.000 Okay, great.

01:22:20.000 Reaction, reaction, reaction.

01:22:23.000 And the reveal of Amy.

01:22:26.000 No.

01:22:27.000 Hey, Ken.

01:22:28.000 Sorry I'm late.

01:22:32.000 Ken, note your line is, I've been waiting for this all day.

01:22:35.000 Right, yeah.

01:22:37.000 I've been waiting for this all day.

01:22:39.000 I would have been here earlier if the driver didn't try and fill me up in a cab.

01:22:43.000 Uh-huh.

01:22:44.000 Uh-huh.

01:22:45.000 Okay, Ken, your line here is, you look lovely tonight.

01:22:50.000 Uh-huh.

01:22:52.000 You know, Ms.

01:22:53.000 Schumer, I don't think this is going to work.

01:22:55.000 Why not?

01:22:57.000 You know, I just don't think we have the chemistry.

01:22:59.000 Oh, what?

01:23:00.000 Is it because I'm plus size?

01:23:01.000 Yeah, is it because she's plus size? 1.00

01:23:02.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:23:04.000 I just, you know, I... Because I also have a lot of other good qualities.

01:23:07.000 Well, yeah, I'm sure you do.

01:23:08.000 Like, I'm really funny.

01:23:10.000 Well, yeah, I know you're a very successful comedian.

01:23:12.000 Want to hear a joke?

01:23:13.000 Uh, sure.

01:23:14.000 Okay.

01:23:15.000 Knock, knock. 1.00

01:23:16.000 Who's their vagina? 1.00

01:23:18.000 Stay tuned for more Recovered Audition Tapes from Barbie, starring Amy Schumer. 1.00

01:23:23.000 She can make babies. 1.00

01:23:27.000 Alright, glad to be back.

01:23:51.000 No more dancing, not KJ. That's scary in the studio.

01:23:55.000 The underbed for parents just don't understand.

01:23:58.000 Well, that is Fresh Prince, and that's Pogo.

01:24:01.000 He's Australian, and he remixes shows and movies.

01:24:06.000 Not auto-tune, but this guy, he'll hear beats.

01:24:09.000 Well, actually, people in your family who are musically inclined will probably find it fascinating.

01:24:12.000 And he'll like take a clip from Star Trek and all of a sudden you have a song that'll get like 5 million plays because he turns it into a rhythm.

01:24:18.000 And he can't get a work visa back to the States.

01:24:21.000 He's very open about it because he's like – well, he's like – and he's totally against the illegal immigration.

01:24:25.000 He was a big fan of Donald Trump.

01:24:26.000 He's like, what am I going to do?

01:24:28.000 I made a significant amount of money working in the States with the wrong work visa.

01:24:31.000 I didn't have no work visa.

01:24:33.000 It was the wrong one.

01:24:34.000 That was the best of us.

01:24:34.000 He's like, I'm just going to wait this out.

01:24:36.000 I'm not going to break the law.

01:24:37.000 I'm like, oh, and so he allows us to use his music.

01:24:40.000 Different.

01:24:41.000 So we were talking about some outlandish claims.

01:24:43.000 You know, this week we're kind of talking about this, and I know we're going to get some flack, but you have this guy who walked in looking for the tunnels at the pizza parlor, for the underage sex scandal rang in Pizzagate, and things do get blown out of proportion.

01:24:56.000 There is fake news out there both on the left and on the right.

01:25:00.000 And kind of like when people do hidden camera videos on YouTube.

01:25:03.000 We've never faked anything, but a lot of people do, and so we can't compete with the fake story, right?

01:25:09.000 It's like, well, this is pretty compelling, but then someone scripts it.

01:25:11.000 Do you find, having been an investigative journalist really, I mean, decades at this point, that it shortchanges what you do and it's hard to cut through the fog?

01:25:19.000 Because this is obviously an unbelievable case that people should know about, but when they believe that John Podesta has kids chained up in his basement in a Vietnamese sex hammock, it doesn't ring very true.

01:25:31.000 Yeah, well, I think my experience has been that most people have good filters and radar for the BS and the fake news, but I'm also sort of humble enough after 25 years Not to just sort of jump to one conclusion or the other.

01:25:53.000 I haven't looked into that story.

01:25:55.000 I mean, and especially having spent several months investigating just this one case with Daniel Holtzclaw, knowing the amount of time it actually does take for you to feel that you are in command of all the material, I just don't know.

01:26:13.000 I can't one conclusion one way or the other because I haven't had the time.

01:26:16.000 Well, I don't even, maybe not even that story, but I mean, we see it all the time on the, you know, on the left.

01:26:20.000 Yeah.

01:26:21.000 It could be, you know, it could be, I don't know, Donald Trump raves nine-year-old boy or, you know, you've seen stories like that. 0.51

01:26:25.000 And then on the right, Hillary Clinton is secretly a lizard person demon and it gets like five million. 0.56

01:26:30.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.90

01:26:31.000 I buy that.

01:26:32.000 True, actually.

01:26:33.000 Yes, yes.

01:26:34.000 Well, take your pick.

01:26:34.000 But I'm saying we see so much of this now.

01:26:36.000 And you were at the forefront.

01:26:37.000 And, you know, my friend Andrew Breitbart, when he was alive, at, hey, it's great that the media gatekeepers are gone.

01:26:42.000 I still agree with that.

01:26:44.000 And I love to see them in their death throes right now.

01:26:47.000 But there is a new problem of when anybody can have a platform, a lot of people just say, well, we can make more money or traffic this way.

01:26:54.000 And they just lie.

01:26:55.000 And it's right alongside real news.

01:26:57.000 And I do think that's a problem.

01:26:58.000 I don't know how to fix it.

01:27:00.000 Yeah, it is a problem, but to fix it, I think it's the same solution that I've always adhered to, which is that the solution is more speech and better speech and not less.

01:27:11.000 I would not be very happy in an environment where there were some arbiters of Of real news.

01:27:19.000 This is why the conservative blogosphere was able to break through and be as successful as it was in the early 2000s.

01:27:26.000 Because you don't need some sort of Sorbonne-like certificate to verify what's real.

01:27:34.000 And so, you know, when you have the likes of these, you know, poobahs, grand poobahs of journalism, you know, who are in charge of the mainstream institutions that were the biggest disseminators of fake news, CBS or Rolling Stone, you know, or Dateline or 60 Minutes, I don't trust them any more than I trust the people who are spreading Hillary as a lizard stories.

01:27:59.000 Well, I might trust the people saying that a little bit more.

01:28:03.000 Yeah, there was a time in this country where Walter Cronkite was considered, my god, an actual journalist.

01:28:07.000 And that's one of the things that I find funny.

01:28:08.000 We're like, oh, I miss real journalism.

01:28:09.000 No, no, hold on a second.

01:28:10.000 You just didn't know how biased it was back then.

01:28:13.000 There was never an era of, well, maybe there was to some degree, but people inherently have biases.

01:28:20.000 That's just the nature of human beings.

01:28:21.000 And we tried to deny it for a long time.

01:28:23.000 Now you can just see it on social media.

01:28:25.000 Like I said, why I would be disqualified from any cabinet job?

01:28:28.000 My social media trail.

01:28:29.000 It would just be too easy.

01:28:30.000 It would be too easy.

01:28:32.000 Well, this is why it's so cool that we're doing what we're doing at CRDTV.com.

01:28:38.000 I mean, we're going to all have production values that rival or surpass anything That's out there in the mainstream media.

01:28:45.000 And, I mean, you've been at the vanguard of this, of people who are just sick and tired of any of these sort of mainstream outlets, frankly, whether it's CNN or Fox News or ABC. Yeah.

01:28:59.000 Well, and I, yeah, it's been a problem across, across the board.

01:29:01.000 A big thing for me when I finally heard, I was on Joe Rogan's show and I heard his numbers like this, was it last month?

01:29:07.000 60 million downloads.

01:29:08.000 That was ridiculous.

01:29:09.000 And then like another 12 million YouTube, and I was going like, oh my, like that's bigger than all of them combined.

01:29:14.000 And it's a much more active listener base.

01:29:15.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:16.000 Yes.

01:29:17.000 That's one thing, like people, remember now everyone always said, well, there's no...

01:29:19.000 People go out to buy Fox News t-shirts.

01:29:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:29:21.000 No one's buying Fox News mugs or t-shirts.

01:29:24.000 And what's funny is, is it's, it's, There used to be this time, remember, when we were starting, I guess, more so on, I started later than you, where they said, there's no money online in advertising.

01:29:34.000 And I just always said, well, hold on a second.

01:29:36.000 I can trace exactly who's coming in from where and what they're doing, and that's way more valuable.

01:29:41.000 You just pay this amount for advertising because that's what you paid on TV. But you really don't know who's sitting there in front of the TV, and now that's changing, where certainly companies run by anyone under the age of 50, they don't want to put a lot of their advertising into radio or traditional TV. They do it all online where they have the analytics.

01:29:57.000 Yeah, that's absolutely right.

01:29:59.000 My hope is that what we're able to do at CRTV.com has more power, more longevity.

01:30:08.000 I think the synergy between and among all of the personalities who are being featured is very, very unique.

01:30:14.000 Rather than just having one platform that is full personality-based, that it's having this village of us offering a wide variety of formats.

01:30:27.000 And I really, I am so hopeful and so excited about, you know, our prospects.

01:30:33.000 And to me, it's almost coming full circle.

01:30:35.000 Because remember, I started Hot Air initially as an internet broadcast.

01:30:39.000 Right, right.

01:30:39.000 Yeah, that's what it was.

01:30:40.000 We were just too early.

01:30:42.000 We were too early.

01:30:44.000 Yeah, well, you know, I appreciate that I'm on there.

01:30:46.000 Certainly the black sheet with what we're doing.

01:30:47.000 But Mark Levin and these people, you know, they've been great.

01:30:49.000 You've been great.

01:30:50.000 So I do think, and I don't know about you, I have so many people coming out of the woodwork saying, can you get me a show?

01:30:54.000 Can you get me a show?

01:30:55.000 So I take this chance to say no!

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01:31:07.000 Or, I don't know, you're some kind of a foe.

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01:31:16.000 *music* Apparently within 3 hours we don't believe we can take a woman in here, but 15%去了 the complete interval and on of 43 hours 13 hours we down at a respectful action report is separated from trash handling of her police activity? 0.99

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01:31:53.000 All right, live read time.

01:31:55.000 You've only been getting one of these.

01:31:57.000 I mean, how many have we done?

01:31:58.000 We've done, I think, a total of four live reads.

01:32:00.000 Yeah, I did a couple.

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01:32:47.000 For the app?

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01:33:34.000 Well, Jared and I have been producing all of that for years.

01:33:38.000 Myself alone without Jared for years.

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01:33:43.000 Tonight's mic issue is notwithstanding.

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01:35:10.000 Oh gosh, I need to turn up my mic back here because that music wasn't loud enough.

01:35:14.000 I was dancing by memory.

01:35:15.000 I know.

01:35:15.000 That's a scary thing.

01:35:16.000 We're going to have Gavin coming up after the break.

01:35:19.000 Speaking of scary thoughts, you know, I have to close this because I'm about to lose my charge.

01:35:23.000 I need to do a MacBook, Jared.

01:35:25.000 Or any computer.

01:35:25.000 A MacBook?

01:35:26.000 That was on your list of things to do.

01:35:27.000 He also didn't do that.

01:35:28.000 This guy over here.

01:35:30.000 This putz.

01:35:32.000 What was I saying before that? 0.61

01:35:34.000 Oh, right away.

01:35:35.000 I forgot.

01:35:36.000 Guest.

01:35:36.000 Guests.

01:35:38.000 I'm trying to think.

01:35:38.000 So we have him.

01:35:39.000 He was just appointed here.

01:35:41.000 We're dialing up now.

01:35:42.000 We're dialing up now.

01:35:43.000 We have Dr.

01:35:45.000 Ben Carson.

01:35:45.000 He's inside.

01:35:47.000 He's all over the news this week.

01:35:49.000 Dr.

01:35:50.000 Ben Carson just appointed to, I just forgot, Housing and Urban Development.

01:35:55.000 It's been a long day.

01:35:56.000 I did not have a stroke, I promise you.

01:35:58.000 My tongue is swollen from something.

01:35:59.000 I think I'm allergic to soy. 1.00

01:36:01.000 Damn it! 1.00

01:36:02.000 Those Luna bars. 1.00

01:36:03.000 Those Luna bars.

01:36:04.000 We do have him on.

01:36:05.000 We're always glad to have...

01:36:06.000 Do we have Dr.

01:36:07.000 Ben Carson?

01:36:08.000 Let me check in here.

01:36:09.000 Cartoon Dr.

01:36:10.000 Ben Carson, are you there?

01:36:12.000 Yes.

01:36:13.000 Yes, I'm here.

01:36:14.000 Glad to be here, Stephen.

01:36:16.000 No, thank you for taking the time.

01:36:17.000 We know you're busy.

01:36:18.000 So, a big week for you, obviously.

01:36:20.000 You were appointed head of housing and urban development.

01:36:24.000 So, how are you feeling about that?

01:36:26.000 Well, I feel the same way I do every day, Stephen.

01:36:30.000 Grateful.

01:36:31.000 For the air that I breathe and to experience our Lord's most wonderful creation that is life.

01:36:39.000 But the job, what about the job?

01:36:41.000 That's fun too.

01:36:43.000 Okay, now I personally think that you'll be great in this role, but you're not without critics.

01:36:48.000 Many of them, of course I'm sure you know, they're claiming your lack of experience.

01:36:54.000 Namely that several weeks ago you said you would deny any cabinet appointments to you due to your lack of experience.

01:37:02.000 Well, I've changed my position.

01:37:04.000 Okay, so what's changed it?

01:37:06.000 The intoxicating adventure that is life.

01:37:11.000 And Donald Trump threatening to release my photos to iCloud.

01:37:14.000 I see.

01:37:14.000 So what major changes do you expect to make?

01:37:17.000 What would you like to see happen as you make your impact on this Department of Housing and Urban Development?

01:37:24.000 Well, Stephen, I would love to see more affordable housing for all Americans through the implementation of private programs and less dependence on government subsidies.

01:37:36.000 And for every American in their house, A box turtle. 0.53

01:37:42.000 A box turtle.

01:37:45.000 Because every American, when they come home from work, deserves to be greeted by a friend.

01:37:52.000 All right, then.

01:37:53.000 There's a rumor going around, I think you've addressed it, that you're suited for this job because you grew up in public housing.

01:38:01.000 I think I know the answer, but is there any truth to that?

01:38:04.000 No, that's not true.

01:38:05.000 That's a common misconception.

01:38:07.000 I just grew up in Detroit.

01:38:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:11.000 And I did try and stab my mom once. 0.91

01:38:14.000 Right.

01:38:15.000 I can see how that might be confusing.

01:38:17.000 But my attack was divinely thwarted by her belt buckle. 0.99

01:38:23.000 Well, Dr.

01:38:24.000 Ben Carson, what is it that you most hope to change?

01:38:28.000 If you have to nail it down to a single issue, what do you want to accomplish with this position?

01:38:33.000 Well, Stephen, my goals remain the same.

01:38:36.000 I believe that there is too much anger in America and too much divisiveness.

01:38:44.000 And I would like to unify our country once more to help people understand that life is full of sweet surprises every day.

01:38:58.000 The sun comes up and I can feel it lift my spirit.

01:39:04.000 Okay.

01:39:05.000 Dr.

01:39:05.000 Ben Carson, thank you for the time.

01:39:07.000 Fills me up with song.

01:39:10.000 I look into the eyes of love and know that I'd be loved.

01:39:15.000 We have to go, Dr.

01:39:17.000 Carson.

01:39:17.000 Wait, wait, Stephen, wait.

01:39:19.000 Yeah?

01:39:20.000 Bless us all who gather near.

01:39:24.000 With noisy games.

01:39:26.000 And Cartoon Dodger Ben Carson, everybody.

01:39:31.000 He's a great guy.

01:39:32.000 Sometimes it's just hard to...

01:39:34.000 He's inspirational.

01:39:36.000 He inspires me.

01:39:37.000 It's hard to slam dunk someone like that.

01:39:40.000 Especially to get...

01:39:42.000 We do have Gavin McInnes.

01:39:43.000 We'll be coming up at McInnes.

01:39:45.000 Coming up after the break.

01:39:46.000 Because he has a thing about that, Gavin.

01:39:48.000 Little known fact about Gavin McInnes.

01:39:49.000 He's a sensitive soul.

01:39:51.000 He is.

01:39:51.000 He's a sensitive soul wrapped in the...

01:39:53.000 He has a sensitive interior wrapped in the exterior of a thoughtless prick.

01:40:02.000 So Gavin is...

01:40:03.000 I love that about him.

01:40:04.000 I was going to say Dirty Razorblades, but... 0.99

01:40:06.000 Dirty Razorblades, yeah. 1.00

01:40:08.000 Okay, so speaking of which, the alt-right is kind of something people were talking about, or this idea now of identity politics.

01:40:15.000 You know, I was sitting there and I was...

01:40:17.000 People have asked, am I alt-right?

01:40:20.000 Listen, here's the thing.

01:40:20.000 With the alt-right terminology, most people and probably a lot of people who are fans of the show consider themselves alt-right, but they wouldn't really have ties to the roots of people who consider themselves white supremacists, alt-right.

01:40:30.000 I'm not saying any alt-right.

01:40:31.000 Probably a minority are white supremacists.

01:40:34.000 So some people have said, well, why don't you address some of these issues?

01:40:39.000 Or why don't you try and at least understand where they're coming from?

01:40:42.000 Let me say something to begin with.

01:40:44.000 Of course, I think that actual racism, hating someone based on the color of their skin is abhorrent.

01:40:53.000 But again, we've talked about this.

01:40:55.000 Unlike Black Lives Matter, who said that you can't even be friends with Tommy Loren.

01:41:00.000 Remember that happened this week? 0.91

01:41:00.000 You can't even be friends with them because they're white supremacists, so don't even have a discussion. 0.91

01:41:04.000 I understand that I can have blind spots.

01:41:06.000 And so I do try and get into the frame of mind of some people who send me tweets sometimes with whom I disagree.

01:41:12.000 Here's something I will say.

01:41:15.000 With the Obama administration, where we are, With this identity politics that have been forced upon people and thrust upon people, you are seeing a reaction that I think is much more severe than it would have been otherwise.

01:41:27.000 You can only call people racists.

01:41:29.000 You can only call people white supremacists. 0.81

01:41:30.000 You can only call people bigots until they finally go, you know what?

01:41:33.000 It doesn't matter what I do.

01:41:34.000 I mean, you called Ben Carson a racist.

01:41:36.000 So sure, I'm a racist.

01:41:38.000 And they claim it. 0.96

01:41:39.000 And now you have people proudly, more people probably than in a long time, because you created this monster.

01:41:45.000 You're the one who created this problem.

01:41:47.000 through deliberately using racial divisiveness in order to try and gain votes in the United States Now, let me give you an analogy.

01:41:57.000 If I'm in a neighborhood, okay, and someone moves in right next, put it this way, I would much rather, much rather have a black American move in next to me who shares even half of my values than a Bernie bro socialist hipster move in next to me. 0.89

01:42:12.000 It wouldn't even be close. 0.89

01:42:14.000 If I could pick out of a list, well, of course, let me take a black guy with kids and a wife than this kid because he's going to be coming over asking for sugar and he's not going to give it back. 0.99

01:42:25.000 Now, that being said, if I lived in a neighborhood, and this is something that actually happens, where all of a sudden the demographics entirely changed, where everybody who moved in was black because the government said, you have to have these demographics in your neighborhood.

01:42:40.000 If that happened, and that has happened with some people, I can see how someone would say, well, hold on a second, hold on a second.

01:42:47.000 That's a problem.

01:42:49.000 And I have a problem.

01:42:50.000 Why are we doing this?

01:42:51.000 Why are you giving spots to people who don't deserve them in college?

01:42:54.000 Why are we getting people, whether it's black, whether it's female, whether it's trans, pick the oppressed class du jour. 0.99

01:43:00.000 So let's expand this beyond racism.

01:43:02.000 Let's expand it to xenophobia, the term they love to use.

01:43:04.000 Do you know what xenophobia actually is?

01:43:06.000 It's the fear of everything.

01:43:07.000 That's what xenophobia is.

01:43:09.000 That's really what it is.

01:43:10.000 It's all encapsulating.

01:43:11.000 No one has a problem With the first scenario, take your pick.

01:43:16.000 If someone said, hey, your neighborhood has to accept, as they did in Germany, this amount of refugees. 1.00

01:43:22.000 Well, hold on, hold on a second, hold on a second.

01:43:26.000 You're forcing us to take these refugees in our neighborhood? 0.94

01:43:28.000 You're booting other people from their houses?

01:43:30.000 Whenever the government steps in and forces some kind of diversity, or forces some sort of political agenda, and they drape it in race, or they drape it in gender, whatever is required that day to gain the most amount of votes, as we saw with Barack Obama when he ran, it was entirely about race. 0.99

01:43:45.000 With Hillary Clinton, when she ran, it was entirely about vaginas. 1.00

01:43:51.000 Bitch became the new N-word. 1.00

01:43:52.000 We said that would happen, and it did. 0.99

01:43:55.000 But when you force it, you also force a rejection.

01:43:58.000 I mean it's just like a kid who rebels against his parents even if he has the greatest parents in the world.

01:44:03.000 That being said, the government is like the parents who lock their kids in a closet and beat the hell out of them just because they feel like it.

01:44:08.000 So I'm not saying that the federal government would be comparable to good parents.

01:44:13.000 But I can understand a lot of young people right now, and I do see younger people.

01:44:17.000 Being more divided, certainly we've talked about this, than my generation, than my parents' generation, because they've been force-fed so many falsehoods.

01:44:27.000 And these falsehoods have also been falsely attributed to race, to gender, to religion.

01:44:35.000 Take your pick.

01:44:36.000 Thanks to social media, it all goes unchallenged.

01:44:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:44:40.000 And so you have a bunch of people who go, you know what?

01:44:42.000 I reject all of it.

01:44:44.000 Because they feel as though they've been forced into a corner.

01:44:47.000 You can't have the systemic vilification.

01:44:49.000 This is why people...

01:44:50.000 Let's be real about this here.

01:44:52.000 White cis males.

01:44:53.000 You can't have the systemic vilification of white straight males telling them to check their privilege, telling them that they haven't earned what they have, telling them that they don't know what diversity is, telling them that they don't know what adversity is, telling them that they don't know what challenge is, and then saying, give the right of way to this guy.

01:45:10.000 Or this girl.

01:45:12.000 Or this depends what they choose to be today because they're pansexual, genderqueer, fluid, whatever the hell the term is today.

01:45:19.000 LGBTQAIP and Asylum F. Sorry if I got the acronym wrong.

01:45:22.000 You cannot do that with white males specifically.

01:45:26.000 I'm not saying, listen, that straight white males probably don't have a lot of advantages.

01:45:32.000 I'm sure there are many advantages that I've enjoyed.

01:45:34.000 I'm sure there are many advantages that I've enjoyed just as a man that women don't and that women enjoy as a man. 0.98

01:45:38.000 It doesn't.

01:45:39.000 It doesn't mean they don't have blind spots.

01:45:40.000 My wife has blind spots. 1.00

01:45:42.000 She's a tall, pretty woman. 0.87

01:45:43.000 For the longest time, she thought Starbucks was a place where you get free coffee.

01:45:49.000 She was unaware that one had to pay for coffee at Starbucks. 0.97

01:45:52.000 As attractive tall blondes are. 1.00

01:45:55.000 No, no.

01:45:56.000 You have to pay.

01:45:57.000 It's just like you pay for some, but you buy one, you get three free.

01:46:00.000 No, that's not how it works.

01:46:01.000 That's not how it works at all.

01:46:02.000 That's not how Starbucks works at all, sweetheart.

01:46:04.000 It works for me sometimes, but I would guess it's for reasons.

01:46:07.000 It depends if the cashier speaks for the lisp.

01:46:10.000 So I try and get in that mindset, and I do see how a lot of young people, particularly young college students, feel frustrated.

01:46:15.000 And it happens with young black people.

01:46:16.000 It happens with young black people. 0.98

01:46:18.000 But particularly, like we're talking about, you're a white, cis, straight male!

01:46:21.000 You can only yell that and scream that for so long and demand that people be ashamed of who they are, something they have no control over.

01:46:27.000 We demand that people are proud of things they have no control over regarding race, gender, sexual orientation, but demand that some people be ashamed until those people who you've tried to force-feed shame say, nope, not gonna do it.

01:46:39.000 And culturally, I see that reaction.

01:46:42.000 It could be scary.

01:46:43.000 Gavin, next.

01:46:44.000 That's right, I forgot.

01:46:45.000 Oh.

01:46:59.000 What are you here for?

01:47:00.000 I'm just in the studio.

01:47:01.000 Went and do some mug club promos.

01:47:04.000 Oh yeah, the mug club promo.

01:47:05.000 Yeah.

01:47:06.000 Only 99 bucks annually.

01:47:08.000 It's actually a pretty good deal.

01:47:09.000 That sounds pretty good.

01:47:11.000 Yeah.

01:47:11.000 What you got in there?

01:47:12.000 Coffee?

01:47:13.000 Tea?

01:47:14.000 Vodka?

01:47:15.000 Cranery. Cranery. Cranery. Cranery.

01:47:23.000 We'll be right back.

01:47:53.000 because my rocking out is learning.

01:47:55.000 Thank you.

01:47:56.000 Hence the typing.

01:47:57.000 We have Gavin McInneson here.

01:48:00.000 Gavin, what's the best plug for you, brother?

01:48:04.000 Compoundmedia.com.

01:48:05.000 Compoundmedia.com.

01:48:06.000 That's where his daily show is, but he's everywhere.

01:48:07.000 He's on the Facebooks, he's on the Twitter, he's got the podcast, of course, compoundmedia.com.

01:48:11.000 Gavin, thanks for being with us.

01:48:12.000 You look like you are taping a horror film.

01:48:15.000 From where are you broadcasting this?

01:48:17.000 I got a little drunk and I... I tried to rob a bank.

01:48:21.000 I don't realize I don't keep money in banks anymore.

01:48:23.000 Right.

01:48:24.000 So I'm actually on my way to hideout in the Bronx.

01:48:27.000 I got a friend of mine with a van.

01:48:28.000 He's driving me.

01:48:29.000 I don't think the cops know where I am.

01:48:31.000 But I'm really scared.

01:48:33.000 I can imagine.

01:48:33.000 I'm scared.

01:48:34.000 The Bronx is nothing if not one big hideout.

01:48:37.000 It's pretty much one big giant burned out building.

01:48:40.000 So I think you'll find plenty of places.

01:48:42.000 Yeah, I'm just worried about food.

01:48:44.000 I've become accustomed to my little accoutrements.

01:48:47.000 You know what I mean?

01:48:47.000 Yes, exactly.

01:48:48.000 Yeah, the Bronx can be rough for that.

01:48:50.000 Not quite the most cultured area of New York.

01:48:53.000 So, Gavin, you were talking about this before, and I thought this was interesting.

01:48:55.000 You play a game now, and it is very thoughtful.

01:49:00.000 It sounds silly on its surface, addressing leftists' worst fears.

01:49:06.000 Tell us about this game, because it's very compelling.

01:49:08.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:49:09.000 Well, the most hyperbolic example is You Have Sex with Dolphins. 0.99

01:49:15.000 Well, hold on a second. 0.98

01:49:16.000 What's the name of the game?

01:49:18.000 Play it through. 0.99

01:49:19.000 Okay, before we go, You Have Sex with Dolphins. 0.99

01:49:23.000 That's not quite the lead. 0.95

01:49:24.000 Play it through, and this is a game where you play through the worst-case scenario, leftist fears, to see where we go, right?

01:49:32.000 Am I getting this right?

01:49:33.000 Yes.

01:49:33.000 So if someone accused you of that, your first instinct is, no, no, no, no, no.

01:49:38.000 No, I don't.

01:49:38.000 I never have.

01:49:39.000 Right.

01:49:40.000 And then, but instead of doing that now, I go, wait a minute. 0.69

01:49:43.000 Who has sex with dolphins? 0.88

01:49:46.000 There's probably someone. 0.97

01:49:48.000 How would you do that?

01:49:49.000 How do you get to them?

01:49:50.000 You do it in a tank.

01:49:51.000 Don't the people in the dolphin tank, aren't they a little angry about this?

01:49:56.000 And you do that with everything.

01:49:57.000 Like a friend of mine, Lady Alchemy, she's a It's a performance artist here in New York and she does this sort of nude dancing. 1.00

01:50:03.000 And they found out she was a Trump supporter.

01:50:06.000 And they said, people here don't feel safe and we don't want you doing this job anymore.

01:50:11.000 And I say, okay, first of all, you're accusing her of being a Nazi.

01:50:14.000 She's obviously not.

01:50:16.000 But let's just play it through.

01:50:18.000 Let's say she was.

01:50:20.000 Why can't someone have a horrible ideology like that and take their clothes off? 1.00

01:50:25.000 Are swastikas going to shoot out of her nipples? 1.00

01:50:28.000 Is she going to have like a blow dart she sneaks under her armpit and go and shoot it into minorities necks? 1.00

01:50:35.000 Even in your worst case scenario, where's the harm? 0.97

01:50:39.000 Well, with a woman it's slight, but I guess putting a known, like a Nazi, if it's a male, in a position where he would be interacting with clients, I could see that being a problem. 0.79

01:50:48.000 Yes.

01:50:48.000 Well, those cases you come up with, they take so much hypothetical work.

01:50:52.000 Like, okay, if you're a Nazi and you're a teacher and you're working in school and you're discussing, like, the Holocaust, I could see you being biased and, you know, saying it didn't happen or whatever.

01:51:03.000 That's a crazy scenario we just came up with to make them look rational, right?

01:51:07.000 Yes, exactly.

01:51:08.000 Far more rational than sex with dolphins, which is more likely.

01:51:11.000 But I don't know if you know this, though.

01:51:13.000 That's not that far off.

01:51:14.000 Have you heard of people who do water births with dolphins?

01:51:19.000 Oh, no.

01:51:20.000 I'm familiar with water births.

01:51:21.000 I didn't know if someone threw a giant fish in the mix.

01:51:23.000 For a while, they're like, well, if you look at the way dolphins give birth, it's supposed to be...

01:51:26.000 And they tried to start...

01:51:27.000 I think Penn and Teller did an episode of this.

01:51:29.000 They would go out and they tried to have births with dolphins.

01:51:32.000 I'm like, hold on a second.

01:51:33.000 Dolphins are horrible animals.

01:51:35.000 They commit infanticide.

01:51:37.000 They bully for fun.

01:51:38.000 They hunt for sport. 0.99

01:51:40.000 They gang rape other dolphins.

01:51:41.000 It's an episode of Lockup with Flipper and people are out there trying to give birth.

01:51:45.000 This is a real thing.

01:51:47.000 So even the most far-fetched scenario you could take, Gavin, was not that far off from a leftist reality.

01:51:53.000 True, true.

01:51:54.000 And I guess that could be harmful to the baby.

01:51:57.000 But my point is, with the teacher, the Nazi teacher we came up with, right? 0.69

01:52:02.000 She doesn't exist.

01:52:03.000 That doesn't happen.

01:52:05.000 And that's a teacher.

01:52:06.000 That's a very unique job.

01:52:07.000 We have people being fired from selling pistachios.

01:52:12.000 Seriously, pistachio girl in the... 0.98

01:52:14.000 I know, but it's just the way you reduce it.

01:52:18.000 She was fired from selling pistachios for voting Republican.

01:52:22.000 And it's 99% true. 0.83

01:52:25.000 Yeah, I mean, her ideology is pretty darn hateful. 1.00

01:52:28.000 But that's none of my beeswax.

01:52:31.000 That's her thoughts.

01:52:32.000 And she's selling pistachios, not teaching children anything.

01:52:36.000 Similarly, MDE presents World Peace on Adult Swim.

01:52:42.000 That just got cancelled.

01:52:44.000 Because of rumors that it was bigoted or whatever.

01:52:46.000 No one cites an actual sketch, but play it through.

01:52:50.000 So you're saying that there is a racist sketch show?

01:52:54.000 There's a demand for that?

01:52:56.000 People laugh and clap when you make...

01:52:57.000 No!

01:52:58.000 There's no demand for that.

01:52:59.000 People don't want that on TV. Parents don't want to know that someone would scroll past and see a racist comedy sketch show.

01:53:07.000 It's a ridiculous lie. 0.97

01:53:09.000 It's a good point. 0.67

01:53:09.000 And certainly if we scale it back and apply it to the actual scenarios that we hear from leftists, the what-ifs that we actually hear, what if Obamacare gets repealed? 0.67

01:53:20.000 What if Republicans get the House?

01:53:22.000 What if abortion were outlawed? 0.97

01:53:26.000 What if you're like, well, hold on a second.

01:53:27.000 That wouldn't be the apocalypse that you claim it would.

01:53:31.000 Right, yeah.

01:53:32.000 And we don't have to do what-ifs with them.

01:53:35.000 Like, they said, what do we want dead cops?

01:53:37.000 When do we want them now?

01:53:38.000 They got dead cops.

01:53:39.000 Right.

01:53:40.000 They said, uh, they said, uh, Sally Cohen says, oh, Mike Brown was running away with his hands in the air.

01:53:46.000 The next thing you know, we got riots all over the country, and Zamir Brevik is getting bludgeoned with a hammer because he's white. 0.57

01:53:54.000 Yeah.

01:53:54.000 Because the press lied and said that there was...

01:53:57.000 By the way, what's the ethnicity of your cab driver there?

01:54:00.000 Do we know?

01:54:01.000 He put on headphones and said he didn't want to listen to this.

01:54:05.000 All right, Gal.

01:54:07.000 This is a nightmare for him.

01:54:10.000 This is the stuff his nightmares are made of.

01:54:13.000 That's America.

01:54:14.000 Oh, my God. 0.99

01:54:14.000 He just said bludgeoned to death with a hammer, please. 0.99

01:54:17.000 Someone send back up.

01:54:20.000 No, you're right.

01:54:22.000 Well, that's kind of an irony, isn't it, from what you were talking about, where, okay, what if someone were a Nazi?

01:54:26.000 But then leftists, you know, there aren't what-ifs with the dangerous ideologies, like we were talking about, this Islam, where people actually get killed on a daily basis. 1.00

01:54:34.000 You don't need the what-if, but that's not important right now.

01:54:37.000 No, there's only two ideologies in America right now that lead to violence.

01:54:42.000 Extremist Islam and liberal hyperbole. 0.98

01:54:47.000 Those two things, I can cite actual cases where people have been shot and killed.

01:54:51.000 Yet, who gets fired from their jobs?

01:54:54.000 I mean, we've got the head of the DNC strategy guys tied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

01:55:00.000 We can list deaths for that. 0.82

01:55:02.000 But, no, we've got to fight Nazis. 0.91

01:55:05.000 We have to get people fired for being a Nazi.

01:55:07.000 Meanwhile, even like the worst Klansman of the past 20 years, what has he done?

01:55:13.000 Well, he was fourth in line for the Obama presidency.

01:55:16.000 That's what happened with Robert Burr.

01:55:17.000 Hey, Gavin, can you stay for one more segment?

01:55:19.000 Sure, yeah.

01:55:20.000 It sounds almost like a sound booth being in that cab.

01:55:22.000 It's dampened, it's perfect, and it's getting a real train-spotting vibe.

01:55:26.000 Gavin McInnes, compoundmedia.com.

01:55:27.000 Stay tuned.

01:55:30.000 Stay tuned.

01:55:45.000 I know.

01:55:46.000 I'm glad he came in.

01:55:47.000 Oh, Mr.

01:55:48.000 Nolte, thank you so much for coming in on such short notice.

01:55:54.000 Okay, Mr.

01:55:55.000 Nolte, I don't need to tell you how to do this, obviously.

01:55:58.000 It's not your first rodeo.

01:55:59.000 You have the sides, so whenever you're ready.

01:56:05.000 Captain, I am.

01:56:07.000 We're lost. 0.95

01:56:08.000 We're lost, Captain Ahab, you son of a . 1.00

01:56:12.000 We're lost, Ahab.

01:56:13.000 Okay, hold on.

01:56:14.000 Are you, um...

01:56:15.000 Are you sure you have the right sides?

01:56:17.000 I think it's some kind of method acting.

01:56:20.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

01:56:21.000 Continue.

01:56:21.000 I'm trying here.

01:56:23.000 Ahab, you turn this ship around. 0.92

01:56:27.000 Captain Ahab, you turn this ship around, you son of a... 0.96

01:56:31.000 Okay, Mr.

01:56:32.000 Nolte, I'm sorry.

01:56:32.000 I need to make sure you have the right sides.

01:56:35.000 This is the Universal Project.

01:56:37.000 Yeah.

01:56:38.000 With Amy Schumer.

01:56:39.000 Yeah.

01:56:40.000 I'm waiting for Moby Dick.

01:56:43.000 Stay tuned for more recovered audition tapes from Barbie, starring Amy Schumer.

01:56:48.000 She can make babies. 1.00

01:56:50.000 All right, glad to be back.

01:57:09.000 We have him here in the cab.

01:57:11.000 Gavin, were you giving directions to your driver just there?

01:57:14.000 Yeah, I was just getting out early because I realized I don't want to show people where I live because I have psychotic social justice warriors trying to kill me.

01:57:21.000 Yeah, I have that too.

01:57:22.000 It's called the ISIS kill list.

01:57:24.000 So, compoundmedia.com is where people can find Gavin McInnes.

01:57:28.000 All right, let's let him pay his driver here.

01:57:30.000 Oh, I don't pay.

01:57:32.000 Oh, you don't pay? 0.99

01:57:34.000 Well, that's because you're a Nazi. 1.00

01:57:38.000 Just use the white privilege card. 0.99

01:57:39.000 It's really handy.

01:57:39.000 Look at this.

01:57:40.000 Look at this lighting here.

01:57:41.000 This is actually surprisingly functional, this interview.

01:57:45.000 Well, this is why the mainstream media died, because the technology got so good that we didn't need your fancy setups anymore.

01:57:56.000 Your fancy setup.

01:57:57.000 No, but you know what?

01:57:57.000 When I used to be at Fox, they would like, no, listen, you can't do it by Skype.

01:58:01.000 And I was like, listen, I can set up with a super high-speed line or wherever it was for a long time, even when I used to do hits at CNN. And they always had these satellite uplinks, which cost thousands of dollars, you know, to do.

01:58:11.000 And you know what's crazy?

01:58:13.000 I don't know if you know this, but when you do these satellite uplinks, the monitor is always below the television, right?

01:58:16.000 And it has like a few second delay, so you always just say just shut it off.

01:58:19.000 Well now, right now, I'm looking at you in this camera in real time, no delay.

01:58:25.000 And it's amazing.

01:58:27.000 Like they don't even have this at the cable networks because they have to use the older technology.

01:58:30.000 So there's no way they can compete.

01:58:33.000 And when you do those interviews and there is that delay, it sounds so awkward.

01:58:38.000 And it ruins the whole interview because the other person looks like they're flummoxed because they have that two-second delay.

01:58:45.000 No, it really is a revolutionary time for news.

01:58:49.000 And I was just talking to Cernovich about this.

01:58:51.000 I didn't realize that there was all these Bernie people at Hillary rallies until he pulled out his phone and periscoped it.

01:58:59.000 There were Bernie people in Hillary rallies?

01:59:01.000 Yes, protesting it.

01:59:03.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:59:03.000 That makes sense.

01:59:04.000 They were very anti-Hillary, and they still were, you know, for a long time going into it.

01:59:09.000 Yeah.

01:59:09.000 And how do we find that out?

01:59:11.000 We didn't get that from the news because they literally built a wall around her rallies to keep out journalists. 1.00

01:59:17.000 Yeah.

01:59:18.000 Yeah, it's definitely been a weird time.

01:59:21.000 We were just talking about this with Michelle Malkin.

01:59:22.000 You know, there is this kind of...

01:59:23.000 Listen, you're, I guess you would say, a provocateur, right?

01:59:26.000 You're no stranger to controversy, but I do know that you also care about truth and accuracy.

01:59:31.000 And so I do know that you probably are concerned.

01:59:33.000 There is a problem that comes with it where some people have just opted to, both on the right and the left, lie because they know it gets more clicks.

01:59:40.000 They're like, let's just make up a story, and it gets picked up.

01:59:44.000 And that is the consequence of everyone having a voice.

01:59:47.000 I think it's better than having the Walter Cronkite and the Brian Williams be gatekeepers, but it comes with its own problems as well.

01:59:53.000 Well, Bloomberg.com said that.

01:59:56.000 They said they hoped the free market would handle this, but maybe the state is going to have to.

02:00:00.000 Look, when people lie, it gets weeded out really quickly.

02:00:04.000 You go and look it up, and you realize...

02:00:08.000 Right after the election, there was a rumor going around that Trump won the popular vote.

02:00:12.000 I wanted that to be true, and I searched around, and I could tell by the sites saying it that it wasn't remotely true.

02:00:19.000 Right.

02:00:20.000 Because they look fake right away.

02:00:22.000 And then, you know, it's a free market of ideas.

02:00:24.000 Over time, trial and error, authority in numbers, the truth starts coming out.

02:00:29.000 That's why Wikipedia works.

02:00:30.000 That's why the Internet works.

02:00:32.000 That's true.

02:00:33.000 Sometimes it's hilarious when people go in and screw with stuff and you're like, well, that's not true.

02:00:39.000 Gavin is not a Wiccan sorcerer.

02:00:42.000 Go write that on my Wikipedia page right now and it'll last for an hour.

02:00:47.000 Now, yeah, it wasn't that way early on, and that's actually giving me, I guess, sort of some optimistic hope, because Wikipedia was really rough early on, where it was about 50% inaccurate, and they've since put some systems in place to correct that.

02:01:01.000 And I think you're probably seeing the same thing with a lot of other social media, and without banning people, like you said, hopefully a market of ideas can solve that problem.

02:01:09.000 Well, essentially, you said about Donald Trump and the popular vote.

02:01:11.000 What's your scorecard on Donald Trump?

02:01:13.000 And we said about this, the reason I haven't talked about Trump right now is because I think we both would agree this is a time period where all presidents do their most pandering because it's about uniting and they have this sort of wave of momentum and this is where they say a lot of things that may or may not be true or they may or may not be able to follow through so I want to wait until he gets into office so I have to say that first but what would you give a scorecard right now based on what you're seeing?

02:01:41.000 I'm ecstatic.

02:01:42.000 I mean, it would be hard work to come up with some things that I could criticize.

02:01:46.000 I was a little uneasy with the woman from the WWE getting appointed, but she's got a rich resume outside of that. 0.98

02:01:55.000 I was a little uncomfortable with Ben Carson.

02:01:57.000 Being the head of HUD, because I think his only experience is having lived in black areas. 0.76

02:02:04.000 But I'll wait to pass judgment on that.

02:02:06.000 But outside of that, it's just been so much winning that I have to keep...

02:02:09.000 I walk like a 99-year-old man.

02:02:12.000 I am exhausted from winning.

02:02:14.000 And I just found out that it's looking good for Cruz as a Supreme Court judge.

02:02:20.000 That's what Got News is saying.

02:02:21.000 Well, you were the only one who predicted that.

02:02:23.000 And when Trump accused his dad of shooting JFK, I thought you were off.

02:02:29.000 I will gladly admit that I'm wrong.

02:02:31.000 I would love to see that.

02:02:33.000 Now, see, that is so huge, because we took a blow losing Scalia, and if Cruz is in there to save dead babies, to save...

02:02:44.000 Well, you can't, yeah, I mean, save future dead babies.

02:02:46.000 They're done.

02:02:47.000 They're gone once they're dead.

02:02:49.000 But to put a stopgap in the Supreme Court, once that happens, oh my god, I feel like I can turn off the news.

02:02:57.000 But what about the increased $3 trillion in spending and the deficit and stuff like that?

02:03:01.000 Because I know you were really against that with Barack Obama.

02:03:03.000 I don't think that's necessarily going to happen.

02:03:05.000 I think he'll correct that.

02:03:07.000 But if he were to do that, I'd be pissed.

02:03:10.000 So would I. And as Alex Jones said, I'd drag him out of the White House by his heels.

02:03:14.000 But you've got to remember that Drumpf is Scottish.

02:03:17.000 There's Scottish DNA in there.

02:03:19.000 And we are way cheaper than anyone could ever imagine.

02:03:23.000 I mean, I live in Williamsburg.

02:03:24.000 I've been negotiating with Hasidic Jews my whole life.

02:03:27.000 And they are constantly stunned at how cheap I am.

02:03:31.000 There's so many things in that statement that can get you letters that I appreciate.

02:03:35.000 There's a multitude.

02:03:36.000 But no, I'm glad that you said that.

02:03:37.000 I was talking about this earlier in the show.

02:03:37.000 You know, same thing.

02:03:40.000 It bothers me the pandering to the Rust Belt sort of Midwestern states without saying, also, screw the unions.

02:03:47.000 Without saying, we want to keep jobs in America, but if companies want to escape the clutches of these unions, screw them.

02:03:53.000 Let's, I don't know, expedite them to Texas.

02:03:55.000 I would love to see Ford go to Texas.

02:03:57.000 And if Ford needs to go to Mexico to get away from the UAW, I understand it.

02:04:00.000 So that needs to be addressed, and you see that.

02:04:02.000 My point is this.

02:04:03.000 Donald Trump, I know, he didn't want to upset them because a lot of them voted for him.

02:04:07.000 But now you see they're coming out and crapping on him anyway.

02:04:10.000 They're not your friends.

02:04:12.000 So I really do hope to see him put a cap on that because they've been tiptoeing around it.

02:04:17.000 99% of union contributions have gone to Democrats.

02:04:19.000 I don't know why they're even close to playing ball with them.

02:04:22.000 Stop it.

02:04:23.000 They'll always hate you.

02:04:24.000 Stop it.

02:04:25.000 Just follow Reagan's patterns, you know.

02:04:29.000 When the air traffic controllers went on strike, he just fired them all.

02:04:32.000 That's what we need to do.

02:04:34.000 The second these guys start flexing their muscles.

02:04:36.000 And by the way, the teachers unions have so much lobby power, both on the left and the right, the DNC and the GOP. They need to be shut down.

02:04:48.000 They have turned all teachers into these Marxist robots who are ripping away at the very fabric of our country. 0.97

02:04:56.000 They all need to just be flushed down the toilet.

02:04:58.000 Well, I would say the same thing with the unions that have made it so hard for Carrier to make a profit.

02:05:02.000 And so that's where I don't want to see bailouts, and I don't want to see any acquiescing to them.

02:05:05.000 You know, you look at the American auto manufacturers.

02:05:08.000 We were talking about this. 0.99

02:05:09.000 Sometimes made in America, sometimes made in America means cheap union crap that's no good. 0.95

02:05:14.000 And sometimes it means top quality. 0.93

02:05:16.000 And we need to accept both possibilities, right?

02:05:19.000 I mean, it's like assumed.

02:05:20.000 If it's made in America, no.

02:05:22.000 Sometimes if it's made in America, you're paying triple the cost because, like the guy who just took a dump on Trump, the Steelworkers Union, they're charging three times the price and half their employees aren't working.

02:05:31.000 And there is this dogmatic thinking that because Trump changed some Midwestern states, oh, we want to be careful with these people.

02:05:37.000 We don't want to upset the unions because they could be part of a new coalition.

02:05:40.000 They never will be.

02:05:42.000 Right.

02:05:43.000 But the solution is not to let the jobs leave.

02:05:45.000 The solution is to pound the unions and get those jobs back to reasonable prices.

02:05:50.000 But not to punish companies escaping them.

02:05:50.000 Right.

02:05:53.000 And that's what I think Trump was doing with Carrier.

02:05:53.000 No.

02:05:55.000 He was saying, I'm going to stop punishing you guys.

02:05:58.000 And then we were talking about this on Red Eye tonight.

02:06:00.000 They said, what do you think about Trump saying he can just call a corporation in five minutes and get jobs back?

02:06:05.000 And I go, good.

02:06:07.000 I don't think you need a long conversation.

02:06:08.000 It's, I'm going to stop strangling you and let you breathe. 0.61

02:06:12.000 But it is a problem if you're calling some businesses and not others.

02:06:12.000 But yeah.

02:06:16.000 And that's what I'm saying.

02:06:16.000 It's a tough period right now because all he can do is make calls.

02:06:19.000 But if he lowers the corporate tax rate across the board, I'm good with it, right?

02:06:24.000 It needs to be across the board.

02:06:25.000 But that's what I'm saying.

02:06:26.000 But right now, he is just calling specific businesses.

02:06:28.000 If he were president doing that, I'd have a problem with it.

02:06:31.000 And that's why it's a different situation because he's not in office yet.

02:06:34.000 Right.

02:06:35.000 So you're saying after he's president, you don't like the idea of him making calls to individual companies.

02:06:40.000 No, he should not be in the business of picking winners and losers.

02:06:40.000 I don't like him making...

02:06:43.000 It should be the same across the board.

02:06:45.000 Well, start at the ones that have the most jobs and say, if you leave, you're in trouble.

02:06:50.000 But what if they need to leave to keep their business afloat?

02:06:54.000 Because, by the way, also, none of these manufacturing jobs have left.

02:06:56.000 Very, very little.

02:06:57.000 I mean, if he took back every single manufacturing job that was not given away due to automation, it wouldn't even be a blip on the radar.

02:07:03.000 Right.

02:07:05.000 Well, true, but the other problem we have here is we're bringing in the third world into our own country. 1.00

02:07:11.000 So whether we send the factory to Mexico or we bring Mexicans to work in this factory, it's still outsourcing. 0.80

02:07:17.000 So if you close the borders, there's going to be this bigger push to send the company...

02:07:22.000 To the illegals that you just sent over the border, and he's saying, no, we're not going to have that. 0.98

02:07:27.000 Well, he's saying that with some companies, but again, it doesn't work if you don't address the problems where the United States can't compete, right?

02:07:33.000 You can't compete if you have to work.

02:07:35.000 A good example is, you know, and we don't want to have this, and I know you and I would both agree on this, we don't want to have Hyundai or Toyota pull out from employing more Americans than all the American auto manufacturers.

02:07:44.000 You know, these companies, these countries invest in the United States more than any other country.

02:07:48.000 So we don't want to piss them off and drive them away because our own companies will fold, right?

02:07:53.000 A UAW worker is at least two times the cost of a Kia worker or a Toyota worker in Texas.

02:07:59.000 Toyota's in Texas.

02:08:01.000 GM is in Michigan.

02:08:02.000 So let's create incentives for more companies to invest in the United States as well.

02:08:07.000 That's what concerns me with this.

02:08:09.000 But like I said, if he lowers the corporate tax rate, It's not a problem.

02:08:13.000 If you create a business-friendly environment, it solves itself.

02:08:16.000 Aren't these great problems to have, though?

02:08:17.000 I feel like we're both in Motley Crue, and we're backstage, and there's a blonde and a brunette, and we're both deciding who's going to get what groupie.

02:08:25.000 I mean, if we're in a situation where we're saying, which businesses should be here?

02:08:30.000 Should we destroy the unions first, or the corporate tax first?

02:08:33.000 I mean, this winning is getting exhausting.

02:08:35.000 Well, as long as we're not saying, I'm going to put a 35% tariff on people outsourcing jobs if they need to.

02:08:41.000 I have no problem with people saying, listen, we can't do it here.

02:08:44.000 For example, if we make a mug that comes in in China when we're backordered so that Americans can paint it and etch it.

02:08:50.000 That's a good thing, right?

02:08:52.000 Or we say, well, you can't get that mug from China, so it's a $50 mug in the United States, and all those people are out of work.

02:08:57.000 Hopefully people understand basic economics when they're at least looking at these issues through media.

02:09:02.000 That's what I'm concerned about, but I have a lot of leeway because, like you said, I don't think Donald Trump's going to increase spending by three trillion, and I don't think he's going to punish companies if he doesn't lower a corporate tax rate first.

02:09:14.000 I don't think he will.

02:09:16.000 And you also didn't think he was going to win.

02:09:18.000 No, no, I just said that as a positive.

02:09:19.000 I'm saying I don't think he'll do the things that he's saying that make us, like, we may not like.

02:09:23.000 I think he's in a period where he has to unify some people, throw them a bone, because he won, they're pissed, Jill Stein in her recounts, let's try and quell the pain as much, and then get into office. 0.95

02:09:36.000 And so I'm waiting for him to get into office and hopefully kick ass and take names. 0.97

02:09:40.000 He's going to kick ass, and the culture has changed here. 0.99

02:09:43.000 The only thing that I'm surprised about is how long it's taking the far left to realize that they lost. 1.00

02:09:49.000 They really are acting much more petulant and spoiled and vengeful.

02:09:54.000 They're supercharging it.

02:09:56.000 They really are, as Sam Hyde said to me the other day, he goes, they're really doubling down now.

02:10:02.000 I expected them to take some time off, but they're acting out.

02:10:06.000 They're having a temper.

02:10:07.000 You know why?

02:10:07.000 Because they're trying to lay the groundwork for anything Trump does, so they can say, see, see, see, we told you.

02:10:11.000 No, no, you told us in that span of one month that he was going to do racist stuff, and you just picked policy. 0.84

02:10:16.000 They're trying to use every excuse they can preemptively right now, so right now everything is racist and sexist and homophobic.

02:10:22.000 Gavin, great stuff.

02:10:24.000 I love that you have the Christmas lights in back to you.

02:10:26.000 Compoundmedia.com for people to find you.

02:10:28.000 Thank you.

02:10:29.000 We need to have you back soon.

02:10:30.000 This was actually a nice little setup.

02:10:31.000 You look studly.

02:10:32.000 Yeah, I'll go outside for the next time.

02:10:35.000 Very nice.

02:10:36.000 Stay away from kids.

02:10:36.000 50 yards at least.

02:10:38.000 Gavin McInnes will wrap this show up in a nice bow for you.

02:10:40.000 Stay tuned.

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02:12:09.000 Jared, can you shut off this monitor?

02:12:10.000 I'm watching myself and I hate it.

02:12:12.000 I can.

02:12:13.000 I could put this monitor on because I wanted to see Gavin, but then he makes me see myself.

02:12:18.000 He should be absolutely ashamed of himself.

02:12:22.000 All right.

02:12:23.000 We often have a takeaway here, and usually it's related to the show, but tonight it isn't.

02:12:28.000 And this is usually, at least in part, inspired by some emails that I get.

02:12:35.000 But no, Charles, I'm not sending you those pictures.

02:12:39.000 This is not about that.

02:12:41.000 You know, we've talked about this before, and I had someone talking about sort of when dealing with political issues and someone in their family and how, oh, but you know what?

02:12:50.000 They're too late.

02:12:51.000 They're too old to change.

02:12:52.000 People don't change.

02:12:53.000 And I've heard this before, and I know I've heard this worldview before.

02:12:56.000 And I think I've talked about this on the show, but it probably is from...

02:13:00.000 A year ago.

02:13:01.000 So if you've heard the story, save the complaining on the Twitters and in the emails.

02:13:06.000 I'm sorry.

02:13:06.000 You're going to have to go through two minutes of a very similar story.

02:13:09.000 It's not one that I believe.

02:13:10.000 It's not one that I've experienced, that your worldview or your life experiences create a person who is fixed.

02:13:17.000 You know, people mature in all different kinds of ways.

02:13:20.000 I know I have.

02:13:21.000 I mean, look at the show has.

02:13:23.000 I know Not Gay Jared has immensely.

02:13:24.000 It has a long way to go.

02:13:26.000 But...

02:13:28.000 At one point I did find myself maybe getting into that trap.

02:13:30.000 And so this is easy to – it's an easy excuse to use, right?

02:13:32.000 Well, people don't change.

02:13:33.000 You can use that with politics.

02:13:35.000 You can use that with any kind of ideology, whether it's religious, scientific, whether it's a level of education, whether it's intelligence.

02:13:46.000 You can use that argument.

02:13:47.000 People don't change, so don't – people don't change.

02:13:50.000 It's this fixed idea of a human.

02:13:54.000 I thought that at one point, and there was an experience that really changed me.

02:13:57.000 I talked about this.

02:13:58.000 I hope I'm not stepping out of lines.

02:14:00.000 What is with my plurals today?

02:14:01.000 I'm hanging around my French-Canadian mom too much with that. 1.00

02:14:04.000 The plural and the shrimps.

02:14:07.000 Shrimps.

02:14:08.000 She puts it where it's not needed.

02:14:08.000 Shrimps.

02:14:10.000 She's here Jean-Guy all day long.

02:14:11.000 It's all here.

02:14:12.000 Yeah, we need to get Jean-Guy back out there.

02:14:14.000 My aunt.

02:14:17.000 Who's no longer with us.

02:14:18.000 My aunt, I grew up...

02:14:19.000 And I know this is going to sound terrible because she's no longer with us.

02:14:21.000 I always knew her when I was young.

02:14:23.000 As a very kind of scary aunt.

02:14:25.000 She was very...

02:14:26.000 Mean is the only way to say it.

02:14:28.000 Sorry, Mom.

02:14:30.000 She was mean when I was a kid.

02:14:32.000 Maybe she just didn't like me and my brother, but she was pretty mean. 0.97

02:14:35.000 She was the aunt I was scared of.

02:14:35.000 I was scared of her.

02:14:37.000 He didn't go around.

02:14:38.000 Well, I didn't know this when I was young.

02:14:40.000 That this aunt, when my grandparents had her, they didn't have any money.

02:14:43.000 They weren't really able to support her.

02:14:45.000 And so they had to send her with, I guess you'd call it a foster family, a family to assist basically during the week only.

02:14:52.000 It was for several weeks at a time until they were able to take her back in the house.

02:14:55.000 And that didn't happen with their younger siblings because at that point they were able to take care of them.

02:14:59.000 So the younger siblings grew up with the parents and she grew up with this other family who were, they were immensely abusive.

02:15:05.000 Just horrible, horrible people.

02:15:06.000 And it seems like you hear a lot more of that from back then.

02:15:08.000 I don't know if it's just that, you know, it seems like you're like, what?

02:15:11.000 They did what?

02:15:12.000 They hit you with a clothesline?

02:15:15.000 You know, and you're like, why would they do that?

02:15:16.000 They hit you with bamboo sticks?

02:15:18.000 Well, it seems really common to me to hear of older people, like my parents, talk about their parents.

02:15:22.000 Not specifically them, but that age, that generation, where they weren't close to their parents at all, and they don't really ever know their dads that very well, just very distant, and often very abusive.

02:15:32.000 It does seem to be, and that's what people say, the golden age.

02:15:34.000 It's a generational thing, or what?

02:15:35.000 Because before that, that wasn't the case.

02:15:35.000 Well, you know what?

02:15:38.000 It's not historically always been the case where men haven't been able to show affection or say I love you or hug each other.

02:15:45.000 As a matter of fact, it was seen as disrespectful for a long time if you weren't able to shake a hand, pat it back, give a hug.

02:15:50.000 So those things change, and I think that there was a blip in kind of the cycle of human emotion, which wasn't very healthy for men.

02:15:58.000 Now, that doesn't mean that you need to be a guy who cries at everything and need to be hyperly sensitive and get in touch with it.

02:16:02.000 You don't want to be that.

02:16:04.000 Men used to be balanced.

02:16:05.000 A man could be a jock, an intellectual, an artist.

02:16:08.000 As a matter of fact, you weren't considered complete if you didn't have all of those facets, right?

02:16:12.000 You were supposed to be all of those things.

02:16:13.000 And then we got into this mindset of pigeonholing people and, well, he's the jock.

02:16:17.000 He's the intellectual. 0.98

02:16:18.000 No, all men were supposed to be all of those things or you were seen as a loser.

02:16:21.000 So this aunt harbored a lot of ill will toward her parents. 0.90

02:16:26.000 She was angry.

02:16:27.000 And I don't blame her.

02:16:29.000 I didn't know this as a kid back when I thought she was mean. 1.00

02:16:33.000 Her and my grandmother didn't talk for like a period of over a decade.

02:16:36.000 And I wasn't aware of it.

02:16:39.000 And then when my grandmother died and she was on her deathbed, she righted the wrongs.

02:16:44.000 It's a true story.

02:16:46.000 And she brought in my aunt and apologized to her for everything.

02:16:49.000 Everything that had happened when she was a daughter, the fact that they hadn't spoken, the problems that had occurred in their relationship, the strain.

02:16:56.000 She apologized for everything.

02:16:58.000 And, you know, they sat there.

02:17:00.000 They cried.

02:17:00.000 They wept.

02:17:01.000 She was there, my aunt, for my grandmother for the last couple of weeks.

02:17:04.000 And I know it sounds like a Hallmark film.

02:17:08.000 After that, my aunt was an entirely new person.

02:17:11.000 She was the aunt whose house you wanted to go over to.

02:17:13.000 She was a French-Canadian Ebenezer Scrooge with a semi-mullet. 1.00

02:17:19.000 These are French Canadians still. 1.00

02:17:20.000 The story can't be that grandiose.

02:17:23.000 It was like night and day.

02:17:25.000 It's anecdotal, but you'll have two sides scientifically to this idea of neuroplasticity versus fixed IQ. You have ideas versus people's emotions are entirely shaped by their experiences, whereas some people say it's entirely nature, and some say it's a combination of nature or nurture thereof.

02:17:43.000 But I really, and the more I look at evidence and the more I look at people's life experiences, I don't see any proof that people can't change, that you are fixed.

02:17:52.000 And so if you find yourself in a situation that you think you can't change, and it's easy to do this.

02:17:56.000 We've had this, right, where we even started this show, and we were getting so few people watching it when we started it because we got booted from our home station.

02:18:05.000 Unceremoniously.

02:18:06.000 Glory days, as I'm calling it.

02:18:07.000 The weekend.

02:18:08.000 And we were producing it, and it was a disaster, kind of like the sound here tonight, where we said, you know what, maybe we don't even want to put this on YouTube because no one's watching it.

02:18:15.000 And we got in that mindset, like, because no one's watching it today, no one's going to watch it tomorrow.

02:18:19.000 And we're incredibly blessed, and I'm not saying our numbers are Joe Rogan numbers, but hopefully someday we'll get there.

02:18:24.000 But that changed.

02:18:25.000 And I've watched my aunt change.

02:18:27.000 And I've watched people in my life change.

02:18:29.000 I've watched my wife change. 0.70

02:18:30.000 I've changed.

02:18:31.000 And I don't mean that my values have changed, but you can absolutely change the way you see the world, the way you interact with people, as Jordan Peterson was talking about, the why, the how you interact.

02:18:42.000 You have entirely...

02:18:44.000 You have control over that.

02:18:45.000 You have entire control over that.

02:18:47.000 And once you accept that, I'm not talking about some crazy matrix scenario.

02:18:51.000 Once you accept that you can choose how you interact, you can change who you are for the better.

02:18:56.000 And I know people who've done it.

Louder with Crowder - December 09, 2016

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