On this week's show: Alex Jones is back, and he's got a new side profile, and the left is finally starting to care about Syria. Plus, we talk about the new hires on the show, and we read out some of your letters.
00:04:28.000He can't blame that one on George Bush.
00:04:30.000He wanted to blame Iraq, and they tried to do this sort of like six degrees of Kevin Bacon, but with al-Qaeda and Syria, and oh, you know what, let's blame this on George Bush, and now they want to put that in Donald Trump's pocket.
00:04:41.000Donald Trump, for all of his faults or shortcomings, A, is not big on war.
00:06:00.000So this sounds on a surface like, oh, well, we want to get rid of fake news until you realize who's going to be a part of this overseeing body committee with fake news.
00:06:11.000So ABC News is going to get to decide who is real and fake news.
00:06:17.000I guarantee you before the Brian Williams saga, NBC would have been on there as well.
00:06:21.000It's just been so obvious with their lies.
00:06:24.000You know, George Stephanopoulos, of course, buddies to the Clintons.
00:06:27.000You needn't search that far to see executives and heads of the network at ABC who are directly related to either DNC, high-ranking officials, or the Clintons.
00:06:37.000Of course, George Stephanopoulos is the most obvious one because he's a troll with a show and you can fit him in your back pocket.
00:08:19.000Who knows what power tools could chip a tooth?
00:08:21.000Probably half the pillory skeletons start.
00:08:23.000Well, my 14-year-old, her number one concern was not having access to abortions.
00:08:28.000Okay, time to check your daughter's texts, first off.
00:08:32.000Second, she said this so flippantly as though there wouldn't be people in the audience who were horrified, as though half the country doesn't think that's absolutely terrible.
00:08:39.000And here's something that's so telling about that.
00:08:41.000I said, you're barely even kissing boys yet.
00:09:47.000So these people, the Stephanopouloses, the people who are direct Clinton aides or former Clinton aides or the Brian Williams of the world or the Snopes of the world or Reuters.
00:10:03.000They were cropping out a ship, an Israeli flotilla, with a knife from Hamas, basically, at the throat of the Israeli, and it was cropped out.
00:10:12.000So it was actually cropped out so it looked like the Israelis were terrible.
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00:15:42.000Republican members of the Electoral College, this message is for you.
00:15:46.000As you know, our founding fathers built the Electoral College to safeguard the American people from the dangers of a demagogue and to ensure that the presidency only goes to someone who is to an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
00:17:03.000It exists so that someone doesn't simply have to campaign New York, San Francisco, Detroit, Chicago, boom, done, wrap it up, promise them free crap.
00:17:12.000Not because somebody said mean things on Twitter.
00:17:17.000But I'm sure they're going to encourage people to think for themselves and to make their own decisions here, and they want people to engage in a rational...
00:17:57.000People did vote someone who they thought was competent.
00:17:59.000They saw a murderer in Hillary Clinton, and a guy who's probably not super smart, probably not the best pick, but certainly a lot better than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and they voted.
00:18:11.000As President of the United States of America, By voting your conscience, you and other brave Republican electors can give the House of Representatives the option to select a qualified candidate for the presidency.
00:18:41.000They stand with you if you do exactly what it is that they want you to do.
00:18:45.000And what they want you to do is go back on your vote, or go back on the candidate your constituency voted for, and then say that I stand with you so they can act like, oh, gee, golly, we're part of the people.
00:18:56.000First off, I bet you most dumbasses in that video didn't even vote.
00:19:18.000You guys voted or they're talking to the electorate at this point.
00:19:23.000Well, listen, we know that you have this role to fill.
00:19:25.000We know that people voted for this guy, but we want you to vote for the person we want you to vote for.
00:19:29.000Or if it's not the person we want to vote for, just anyone but the person you actually voted for, so we can kick this tin can on down the trail, and then we can call the next guy racist.
00:19:36.000Because you can bet your ass if they chose John Kasich, who the left loves to act as though they're buddies with now because he's moderate.
00:19:42.000If the House of Representatives said, hey, okay, John Kasich, you'd hear, no, he's racist!
00:19:47.000Damn it, we gotta go through this again.
00:19:49.000Here, cue another white tape celebrity video.
00:20:40.000If you're talking about directors, you're talking about some people with some sort of creative input, I can understand it, but a lot of these people aren't.
00:20:46.000Like, you're the token Asian gay from Star Trek.
00:20:49.000Why am I listening to you about federalism?
00:20:51.000Like Courtney says, fire a publicist, hire a proctologist.
00:20:57.000Listen, this is an industry of people who don't get out of bed until 10am.
00:21:01.000This is an industry of people with the highest depression rate, suicide rate, and ironically enough, the only place in the world where the divorce rate is actually over 50%.
00:21:09.000It's virtually 100% in the entertainment industry.
00:21:13.000And people are going to say, oh, this sounds judgmental.
00:21:15.000Well, yeah, you're damn right I'm judging you, especially when you're telling me what to think and how to vote.
00:21:22.000I'm not calling you racist, I'm not calling you xenophobic, I'm not calling you transphobic, I'm watching your video, I'm listening to your arguments, and I'm calling you a dumbbag of fecal matter.
00:21:32.000I think that's an appropriate judgment to make, Mr.
00:21:35.000Gay Asian from Star Trek and other actors I can't name, except for Bob Odenkirk.
00:23:32.000He's already been on the show for a few years off and on, but he loves your show.
00:23:36.000So as a 14-year-old saying he's a conservative or a fan of this, that's the same as being outed now?
00:23:42.000It is kind of in Austin, but I gotta tell you, there's kind of a youth rebellion against all the fake liberal oppression of political correctness.
00:23:49.000I've gotta say, he goes to a pretty mainline school, and it doesn't matter if the kids are black or white or Hispanic.
00:23:55.000I mean, most of them hate Hillary Clinton and actually like Donald Trump or hate social justice warriors, and it's their big entertainment is to actually watch you and other folks like Gavin McGinnis make fun of social justice warriors.
00:24:08.000So, I mean, I'm not kidding when I told you on my show that I mean, I go to, you know, like their parties, I go to pool parties, I go to, you know, boat parties or whatever with my son, also my younger daughter who's 12, and even the 12-year-old girls are starting to watch.
00:24:20.000So the big hot thing for about a year and a half is making fun of social justice lawyers, and it just doesn't go away.
00:24:26.000And they all watch my show, too, but it's kind of like, oh, yeah, and then kind of the seniors watch me.
00:25:46.000Exactly, but what's happened is the dinosaur media, the legacy media, has completely collapsed by their own annex and WikiLeaks and their arrogance.
00:25:54.000So, you know, it's kind of like they collapsed.
00:25:57.000And so now just a lot of people that won't watch them anymore, that have totally given up on them, have just come to the internet looking, you know, for the truth.
00:26:05.000And so just everybody gets a bigger audience because it's not that we all have the truth or are all perfect, but we're trying to tell the truth.
00:26:10.000And so now it's kind of atomized out into thousands, like you said on my show, thousands of moderate size media systems, not just four or five big giant, you know, colossal systems.
00:26:21.000Yeah, no, I think that's a good point.
00:26:23.000And hopefully, listen, hopefully this continues to happen.
00:26:25.000We'll talk more in the coming segments about the YouTube algorithm change.
00:26:28.000And like you said, they're really trying to get a grip on this and more control.
00:26:31.000And I bet you Google is probably not feeling too good because of their big bet on Hillary.
00:27:29.000I said, you're running this thing with the electors to try to overthrow the election.
00:27:34.000So they're screaming that our speech is violent and that we're going to cause violence.
00:27:38.000Look, the Washington Post last week said...
00:27:41.000Over the weekend said, Trump's going to get people killed.
00:27:44.000Because he tweeted back at the union head, we talked about that, who was bitching that he only brought back 85% of the jobs from Carrier when the union head couldn't keep any of them, or Obama couldn't.
00:27:53.000And Trump said, no wonder you lost the jobs.
00:29:02.000Okay, so speaking of which, like you said, you were kind of more underground, now with the mainstream, because you didn't like George W. Bush, you didn't like, obviously, Barack Obama.
00:29:11.000And Trump, you openly, I don't know if you endorsed, but supported.
00:29:15.000So what would your report card be now?
00:30:07.000And so I give him an A-plus on what he's already delivered, operating as commander-in-chief when he's still, you know, 35 days out.
00:30:14.000But some of these appointments are pretty establishment, but here's the deal.
00:30:18.000If they operate, I mean, if I was, you know, 200 years ago and needed to find somebody to be my navigator and to say, you know, some port, back then you'd have to have somebody from the port, come out on the little port.
00:30:27.000Get on your ship and then navigate you into the channel.
00:30:30.000So let's say some navigator has been bad in the past or done some crony capitalist stuff, whatever.
00:30:35.000Once Trump gets them on board, if they carry out his populist operation of Americana, which I don't think is really conservative, it's just bring back Americana.
00:30:43.000If he does that and does stuff like keep saying Merry Christmas, I'm going to stick that down your throat, busting the back and the huevos of political correctness, then I'll say he's delivered and he's the next George Washington.
00:30:54.000If he gets insulated by all the beautiful people in Washington, Yes, well, I think so, too.
00:31:09.000I am a little concerned, for example, like with the...
00:31:12.000Three billion, one of his appointees said, you know, as far as three billion deficit spending.
00:31:17.000I thought it was bad when Barack Obama did it.
00:31:19.000I am curious as to your thoughts, I know because you've openly had some issues with Governor Rick Perry there, former governor in Texas, and like Rex Tillerson.
00:31:27.000Those seem like the kind of people who you would really not be a huge fan of.
00:31:32.000All right, folks confuse the fact that I'm mad at big, corrupt corporations that make their money out of government deals and out of monopolies and oligopolies and combines and controlled competition.
00:31:44.000As John D. Rockefeller I said, Competitions of Sin.
00:31:47.000Rex Tillerson battled the Rockefellers, took Standard Oil away from them in 2006, funded the movement to expose man-made global warming as a fraud, and so was their enemy.
00:31:58.000Now, he had to then suddenly say he was for it or they were going to remove him, but he fought them.
00:32:02.000Rex Tillerson brings a lot of jobs to America.
00:32:07.000He's one of the best salesmen in the world.
00:32:09.000He'll make a great Secretary of State, in my opinion.
00:32:10.000Now, when you start talking about Rick Perry, this is a guy that was a Democrat.
00:32:14.000He took money from Big Pharma to say Gardasil was the law when it was an experimental drug they couldn't even get approved, but by the government saying it's mandated, a governor can basically get FDA approval by emergency decree.
00:32:29.000So they used him to do that to then force basically an experimental drug that they admittedly had a lot of really bad side effects, Well, I know you've talked about that.
00:32:37.000What was your reaction when you found out that he was going to be appointed by President-elect Donald Trump?
00:32:43.000If he was put over to the FDA, I would have a heart attack because he's done bad stuff when it comes to drugs.
00:32:49.000He's done some good things on guns and other stuff.
00:32:51.000He kind of got better as time went on.
00:32:53.000Is he a chameleon or did he show his true colors as more of a conservative?
00:32:56.000Perry's gotten better over time, so now I don't hate him.
00:33:00.000But if you look at the things he's done, if he's going to head up energy, he was anti-carbon tax, anti-global warming.
00:33:07.000So in that position, then I think he's a good pick.
00:33:40.000So if you're a top player, you're in Goldman Sachs.
00:33:42.000I know people that are pretty high-level Goldman Sachs that I have dinner with every once in a while that are anti-New World Order and say, no, you're absolutely right.
00:33:48.000I mean, it's like saying Goldman Sachs is so big, it's like saying it's a continent or something.
00:34:28.000Well, because I know, you know, the reason I bring it up is because a lot of people gave Ted Cruz flack because of his wife's association with Goldman Sachs, which was not...
00:35:08.000I don't care if you're small business.
00:35:09.000I care that you're a good business, that you're an honest business.
00:35:12.000So, I mean, going back to even what you said, we're talking about the corporate tax rates.
00:35:16.000I hope Donald Trump lowers that, as he said he would, and probably thinks twice on punishing companies, like we said, who have to escape the clutches of these unions and make it a fair playing field so that people want to do business in the States as opposed to being scared to leave and being unprofitable.
00:35:30.000I think it's an ugly window, as you said on my show the other day, a very, very ugly window into he brings back 1,080-something of the 1,400 jobs, and the guy viciously goes on CNN, MSNBC, and goes, you lie!
00:37:34.000Well, we have Sally Cohn on today, so I certainly disagree with her on nearly everything, with Alex Jones on some, but we're going to have reasonable discussions, of course.
00:37:41.000We were talking about this before the break, so now, name up for grabs, Alex Carly Fiorina.
00:37:47.000Now, I think this is where we would differ.
00:37:48.000I had her on my program before her surge in the debates.
00:38:50.000Harry Reid said they were going to give him fake CIA briefings.
00:38:53.000Now they've come out, a bunch of the 17 agencies, including the head agency, and said the main CIA did not say that Russia hacked.
00:39:00.000This is all just basically made up by some group of analysts.
00:39:03.000Well, Harry Reid also claimed that he slipped in the shower when the truth is he got that black guy by getting the crap kicked out of him by his brother Larry.
00:40:21.000Well, you know, I'm glad, actually, you eased my pain somewhat when we talked about the YouTube thing, because we've definitely seen some changes, and we're going, well, this isn't really what...
00:40:29.000And it doesn't track with what's happening on the site or other social media.
00:40:33.000They have noticeably been keeping subscribers from the channels they've chosen, to which they've chosen to subscribe.
00:40:40.000And that to me is, here's the deal, right?
00:40:42.000There's a difference between the First Amendment and businesses can do whatever they want.
00:40:45.000What they can't do is court your business, encourage you to use that platform for years, and then decide to switch the game.
00:40:52.000And that's what they're doing, and they do seem to be- Exactly.
00:40:56.000Can't do it, selectively targeting more right-wing voices.
00:40:59.000Well, I hear this all the time, that, well, Facebook or Google or YouTube, its subsidiary, is its own business.
00:41:05.000But if you hold out that we have this model, here is the playing field, here are the rules, we come there, we are YouTube, we build the content, we win, we succeed, we dominate, and then the left and the corporate group goes, Google, Facebook.
00:41:23.000In fact, they're actually in the video I talked about earlier, the crucifixion of Alex Jones, saying, Google!
00:41:27.000YouTube, Facebook, shut down Alex Jones and the rest of the alt-right.
00:41:46.000And so, you know, this is what they're doing is they're trying to divert off into distractions because we literally, you know, broke their back.
00:41:54.000But listen, even if they're successful censoring us, like Reddit's starting to do and others, it will just mean we move on to other platforms.
00:42:00.000And so as they censor us, we just see traffic going up to Infowars because folks go, oh, I can't find it here.
00:42:08.000It's scary because there's always that transition process where you see that dip until they come back and they have to find you, especially when Google is, you know, they're also in charge of Google, right?
00:42:21.000Listen, I tell people out there, this is why we created the Mug Club, the network, the premium network, because we can't be beholden to them.
00:42:28.000And by the way, some of the commenters, I must have misspoke when you were on my show or whatever, I was literally saying, I'm going to rip off your mug.
00:42:36.000I... A year ago, I was brought in one, not that big, but a smaller one, a little bit smaller, I got at Big Ben at their little gift shop.
00:42:51.000People should subscribe to pay for the First Amendment to continue on.
00:42:55.000This war isn't free if you fund us buying our products at InfoWareStore.com, by going to Lauderdacrowder.com.
00:43:01.000This is how we're going to be able to continue on.
00:43:04.000We don't have the big corporate sponsorships.
00:43:06.000We see Breitbart having BMW and Kellogg's pull out from them.
00:43:10.000We went away from advertising a long time ago because they always start trying to pressure you what you say, what you do.
00:43:17.000I mean, I even had some sponsors during the campaign say, we're going to pull, and I'm not bashing Ted Cruz, we're going to pull if you don't start supporting Ted Cruz.
00:43:30.000We weren't pro-Trump or anti-Trump, but if we were like, oh, gosh, I really don't like this $3 trillion and people get mad, well, you better not say that because we need to.
00:47:53.000And this professor goes on, you can see the video at louderwithcrowder.com, to simply make the ad hominem attacks, the very personal attacks, toward Donald Trump.
00:48:00.000And this student, who I believe was a college Republican, recorded it, was interviewed, and posted it online.
00:48:06.000So what do you think the response was?
00:48:08.000Not gay, Jared, from the professor's union.
00:48:10.000It was probably a lot of tolerance mixed in with understanding.
00:48:50.000This isn't always occurring, let's say, in a class where you sign up for gender studies.
00:48:54.000This occurs in classrooms all across the country, whether you want to or not.
00:48:57.000This professor so willingly, and of course out of ego, used her platform to try and push propaganda, to try and indoctrinate little children effectively, to try and indoctrinate college students.
00:49:22.000It's kind of like when you go to a film or you go to a live performance, let's say Hamilton, and you paid for tickets to watch a play, and instead you have to watch some bitch about your vice presidential candidate.
00:49:31.000This is the arrogance of the left in Hollywood, in the entertainment industry, or in academia.
00:49:38.000As NotKJ was pointing out, the complete lack of tolerance.
00:49:57.000If this is a view that's not problematic, what's the issue?
00:50:01.000The issue isn't maybe that she's ashamed of her views.
00:50:04.000The issue is that it wasn't an appropriate form.
00:50:07.000The issue is that it wasn't the time or the place to try and indoctrinate students.
00:50:10.000The issue is that you're a sucky teacher and you got caught.
00:50:15.000That's why you're threatening the student.
00:50:16.000If you went up and you had a great speech, if you went up and you had a great class, right, and everyone left happy and that were recorded, you'd hit share and like that thing like it's hot on Facebook before Facebook decides to bury it as fake.
00:50:30.000What you don't like is you got caught doing something you weren't supposed to do.
00:50:34.000What the left doesn't like is when they claim Congressman Clyburn was called the N-word and then Andrew Breitbart said, I'll give $100,000 to the United Negroes College Fund if anyone can provide evidence.
00:51:22.000If we're talking about positions of hierarchy and oppression, what is more of an abuse of power?
00:51:28.000Not being white and disagreeing with a black guy, being a professor who's in charge of the student's grade, who's in charge of the student's life course.
00:51:37.000The entire path of his life is determined in your hands.
00:51:40.000Should you give him an A or a D? And anyone who doesn't believe that professors allow their politics to intermingle with their grading, well, you're probably dumb enough that you went to university.
00:51:49.000Speaking of pants down, have you read about this, Kelly Mantle?
00:55:53.000Now they're going, hold on, gender fluid, these people want to be able to do either or at any point, depending on what's most convenient for them at the time.
00:56:01.000Now you're going to have a few people who go, okay, but you're going to have a lot of people who say, no, no, I'm not going to.
01:03:01.000This shows us, and this is one thing that I do think, we'll talk about this with Sally Cohn.
01:03:05.000I disagree with her on nearly everything, but I appreciate her gameness, willing to stand in here and trade.
01:03:11.000The left, I think, has, and this is a real turning point, we've talked about kind of, you know, the overreach and the pendulum swinging, but I do think if we go macro, the left has really exposed themselves to the masses, meaning people who aren't even necessarily politically engaged, to be the bigots here.
01:03:27.000Not Gay Jared was talking about with his friend who he thought really couldn't stand this program.
01:03:32.000And now he found out was a fan and watches it and pays attention.
01:03:36.000And this is not a guy who's super politically engaged.
01:03:38.000I mean, it happens as people get older.
01:03:40.000But I think the masses, even the people who are consuming the People magazine, the Us Weekly, the Kardashian fluff, Pop-Tarts crap...
01:03:49.000A lot of them are going, gosh, the left is really not as welcoming and tolerant as I thought they were.
01:03:54.000He found that out, and he had called a white supremacist one too many times, and he's on an academic track getting his doctorate right now.
01:04:00.000Did he say he was called a white supremacist?
01:04:03.000Yeah, because he disagreed, and another guy, another fellow friend, his views on marriage, a guy who came out of the closet after school, and...
01:04:11.000And then it's just downhill from there.
01:04:13.000The academic world, I think, actually, because it's so far left, it's actually pushing him the other way a little bit.
01:04:18.000Well, that's what Alex Jones was talking about with his son.
01:04:20.000We never had kids that age who watched us or listened to us.
01:04:36.000And then you have the left who've really showcased them to be honest-to-God bigots.
01:04:41.000And I don't throw that term around flippantly.
01:04:42.000But if you hear a story and you believe with no factual evidence that people kicked a Muslim down a flight of stairs like a Lifetime movie and tried to tear off her hijab and called her terrorist and it was because they voted Donald Trump and you run that on your front page, you're kind of a bigot.
01:05:02.000You already have a preconceived notion of people who disagree with you.
01:05:06.000If someone who simply is concerned about the economy, or maybe concerned about jobs that their family members are losing, or maybe concerned about political corruption in Washington doesn't vote the way you want them to vote, you call them a white supremacist.
01:05:20.000Doesn't that mean that maybe you have a preconceived notion of these people who disagree with you?
01:05:24.000Maybe someone who has daughters, maybe someone who isn't on board with the whole gender fluidity in Oscar nominations for he, she, Z, or other identification of the day, has a different opinion than you, and they don't want their daughter taking a dump next to you at the Nordstrom stall.
01:06:00.000It's everyone who's not this hyper-progressive left.
01:06:02.000And the bizarre thing is that they're in these positions of authority in the media, in the entertainment industry, in academia, and they're so concerned of seeing this come crashing down because it's happening at once.
01:08:54.000I pretty much knew it wasn't as bad as my brother, who didn't have an umbrella, and I wouldn't give him mine, so he took a grocery plastic bag and jumped and thought that would be a parachute.
01:09:47.000You know, I wasn't a big Trump supporter, obviously, in the primaries, but I will say this.
01:09:51.000I have gone further the other way just because of the behavior from the left and the meltdowns that are just completely off the beam at this point.
01:10:01.000Do you feel that way with your fellow sort of progressives that they've gone too far?
01:10:06.000I mean, demanding counseling and this guy needs to be run out before he's brought in as president.
01:10:12.000I mean, they really, really are like a kid being put to bed throwing a tantrum.
01:10:18.000Well, as a general rule, the left does do melodrama better.
01:10:43.000On the right, y'all are brilliant at finding those crazy pathological extremes and trying to paint the entirety of one side or one group with them.
01:10:55.000I, for the record, live as an openly leftist person.
01:10:59.000Uh, in a openly leftist community, uh, called Brooklyn, New York, and, uh, have not encountered a single person, uh, sobbing on the streets, wailing, uh, on the subway, rocking back and forth, demanding therapy.
01:11:14.000I've seen some people with free hugs signs.
01:11:16.000I would counter with that with, when was the last time you went into a tapas bar?
01:11:51.000If the right did it, you know, Hillary Clinton was vilifying Trump for not accepting the results.
01:11:54.000It didn't do anything except line her pockets.
01:11:57.000It seems like leftists want it both ways and they don't accept the results when it doesn't go in their favor, whether it's Walter Scott, Jill Stein.
01:12:04.000Well, first things first, let's be fair.
01:12:07.000It was Donald Trump who said that he will accept the results of the election if he wins.
01:12:11.000So I would like to posit that there is a good deal of self-serving hypocrisy on both sides of the political aisle.
01:12:19.000Now, if you want to have a debate about which side does it more, I suppose that's an interesting conversation, not one I'm terribly interested in.
01:12:27.000I will say that I think, I hope, if we could all step back for a second from our partisan blinders, the idea that Russia...
01:12:37.000Played any role in influencing the outcome of our elections.
01:12:41.000And the potential, potential, that there might have been any hacking, any nefarious infiltration of our electoral system.
01:12:48.000I would hope, I would hope, we all want to know if that happened, no matter who won.
01:13:10.000Mike Pence just needs to put me on higher.
01:13:11.000I will say this, in that theme, Hillary Clinton should have been disqualified to run because there's no, is there the foreign donations, the acquiescence to countries that do not have the United States' best interest at heart?
01:13:24.000I don't think she should have ever been eligible on those grounds to run because they deliberately tried to effect an election in favor of Hillary.
01:13:46.000People who study electoral systems who are smarter than I am and better at math looked at these irregularities and said, hey, look, this is problematic.
01:14:59.000Now, I'm not worried at this point about Hillary and her baggage.
01:15:03.000Let's talk about Trump and his baggage.
01:15:05.000Let's talk about the fact that he said he was going to put his two sons in charge of his business and he was going to not be involved in running his businesses.
01:15:12.000He was going to be involved in running the country and create this little firewall and delayed his press conference, which was supposed to be today, to announce that Because, lo and behold, his two sons, who are supposed to be looking after his business interests only, have been involved in his transition and vetting cabinet members and at meetings with tech giants and...
01:15:30.000Now, you know, we can talk about Hillary's past and present...
01:15:42.000I'm saying this is now our president-elect who is not disentangling himself from his business interests and making it look every day like he is first and foremost out for his bottom line, and then maybe if he gets around to it...
01:15:57.000So what if it were non-profit interests?
01:16:04.000Would it make it acceptable, for example, when presidents like Barack Obama helped raise funds for nonprofits or show up to charity dinners?
01:16:28.000But when you have organizations where less than 1% does it, No, I understand what you're talking about, but my point is, again, this is the selective outrage of Donald Trump being a business person and him having other interests, him not being only a president.
01:16:40.000Well, that wasn't Barack Obama, that wasn't George...
01:16:55.000Instead of Trump, you can just put the head of the oil company in charge of our policy.
01:17:01.000Look, I don't know if people realize this, but when Rex Tillerson and his role at Exxon went, first of all, let's for a second just note that Exxon has billions of dollars in deals that are pending in Russia.
01:17:13.000If only we were to lift the sanctions that I think everyone agrees we should have imposed on Russia because of its incursion in Ukraine.
01:17:22.000Even if and if he leaves his position, he still holds stock.
01:17:24.000He will benefit financially, depending on US foreign policy, which he will have a direct role in.
01:17:29.000Tillerson, when he was at Exxon, the United States, the State Department had come up with a deal to spread oil profits in Iraq to the different regions and factions that would help bring unity to the obviously destroyed and dysfunctional Iraq.
01:17:43.000And Tillerson went behind the State Department's back and went against American foreign policy interests and cut a deal just with the Kurds between Exxon and...
01:17:54.000To profit Exxon and to hurt American foreign policy interests.
01:17:57.000This is the guy who we're now going to put in charge of the State Department.
01:18:02.000This is about using American policy for business profit.
01:18:07.000I like the idea that some people who've made a little money can actually be involved in government.
01:18:10.000I like the idea that it's not everybody who's been a community organizer and working for a non-profit where we say they don't make profit but they make a half a million dollar salary a year.
01:18:18.000Whether it's Barack Obama, whether it's Michelle Obama, whether it's someone who works for one of these conservative non-profits who then becomes an advisor.
01:18:26.000There are a lot of things I don't like about Donald Trump, but having some business experience isn't one of them.
01:18:30.000And again, the playbook, we go back to oil money, Iraq.
01:18:33.000Syria's a big thing now again, although they've ignored it since what we're talking about with Syria started in 2011.
01:18:38.000Now we're trying to lay that at Donald Trump's feet.
01:18:40.000And does Gary Johnson know about Aleppo?
01:18:41.000It just seems to be so silly and contrived.
01:18:45.000Then we get to the Standing Rock, Dakota Pipeline.
01:18:47.000Everything is some big conspiracy with oil money.
01:18:51.000And do we really think that this person is colluding with someone like Carly Fiorina who might be appointed, who couldn't possibly be tougher on Russia?
01:18:58.000I think your panels included at CNN that I watched were out of their mind when she gave the answer on Putin and said she wouldn't take a call with him and how many troops she would add.
01:19:54.000It's literally saying that he should have firewalls so that the American people can be comfortable and confident that he is looking out for our best interest and not the best interest of Trump Industries.
01:20:05.000Are you comfortable with the influence of that?
01:20:10.000So you just made a point, and I, uh, oh gosh, we're already, we have to go into another segment.
01:20:14.000Why do you think there is, let's assume that you're correct, okay, let's go here.
01:20:17.000Why do you think it is that so many Americans disagree with you, even Democrats who feel that Donald Trump has their best interests at heart certainly more than the DNC? Because you haven't communicated that effectively.
01:20:39.000So by saying I want to make sure he's doing what's right for the American people and not benefiting Wall Street and corporate elites, I'm being elitist.
01:20:47.000He was voted in because people don't want him...
01:20:49.000Yes, and now he has a lower approval rating in his transition than Barack Obama did at this point in his transition.
01:20:58.000You have a writer for Vanity Fair today called...
01:21:00.000Attacking him over his restaurant in the plaza.
01:23:32.000Those were my issues with Donald Trump.
01:23:35.000But it really does, and this is the perception.
01:23:37.000I mean, if you talk about the disapproval rating of Donald Trump, I agree.
01:23:41.000I agree, a lot of people are polarized right now, but the only group of people, I wouldn't say the only group of people, because he's not that hated.
01:23:47.000People who are hated more, absolutely, are the progressive left today, with the safe spaces, the stifling of free speech, the constant freaking out.
01:23:56.000Let's say, you know, Standing Rock, I know you've talked about a lot, Dakota Pipeline, Walter Scott was a big one.
01:24:00.000I know these are issues that you've talked about quite a bit.
01:24:02.000We can talk about colleges and YouTube.
01:24:04.000There is a consistent pattern right now where if the left loses, they throw fits, they accuse racism, they accuse whatever the phobia is that day, and they try and shut down voices.
01:24:17.000Well, that's a good example, but if you go back, yeah, but they do the same thing with everyone else, talk about big oil money.
01:24:21.000Yeah, they're doing the same thing with the Dakota Pipeline, which we know will employ Americans and make energy more affordable, make it more efficient, it's safer, it's cleaner, and leftists suppose it no matter what!
01:24:38.000And do you think people in your position could maybe stand to learn a little bit through changing their communication?
01:24:45.000Of course their values, but at least the communication because people just aren't hearing it now.
01:24:49.000Well, that's interesting because the majority of Americans, including Republicans, believe in climate change and believe that we need green energy policy that creates better, by the way, better jobs and more affordable energy.
01:26:13.000That's actually, that's just not true, but this is an interesting problem in our lives that you and I exist in is the decreasing Venn diagrams of overlapping accuracy and fact, right?
01:26:24.000I don't know how to get around that one because that's disturbing.
01:26:26.000I was willing to give you the first two, but here's why it's important because you threw out three facts.
01:26:40.000Now I have to think the first two were complete BS because I know the last one to be untrue.
01:26:45.000But this is interesting because, see, again, I'm not mistaken.
01:26:48.000I believe Pew conducted that research.
01:26:50.000And the same Pew polls that I know, for instance, you'll cite vis-a-vis in our last conversation about Muslim beliefs around the world, you'll give credit to those polls from Pew, but not the gun control poll from Pew.
01:28:32.000Most conservatives don't want to raise the minimum wage, period.
01:28:34.000So if you're asking the American public, do you think the government should raise the minimum wage?
01:28:38.000Republicans have been blocking any increase in the minimum wage.
01:28:43.000So the fact that the Republicans in Washington, so the fact that Republicans, we can parse over however the question is raised, let's go back, let's dig out the data.
01:28:49.000My point is, you're saying, your larger point here is, Democrats and liberals are losing the American people.
01:29:15.000And by the way, you want to talk about free speech?
01:29:17.000Let's talk about the professor in California who gave an anti-Trump rant and received thousands of hateful emails and death threats to the point where she's fled the state and gone into hiding.
01:29:26.000That same incident where the professor's union threatened to expel the kid for recording an anti-Trump propaganda rant?
01:29:31.000And you want to equate expelling with death threats?
01:29:36.000Because some ads on Twitter sending a death threat is not the same as the authoritative position of a professor's union threatening to expel a kid for doing nothing wrong.
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01:35:25.000Her misguided approach places the onus on women to defend themselves rather than going and focusing and addressing and preventing gender-based violence.
01:36:06.000So I understand in spirit, rather than focus on women and giving them the ability to defend themselves, why don't we focus on raising better men?
01:36:14.000Why don't we focus on encouraging young men not to attack women?
01:37:04.000Forget about firearms, because Canada's so far down the trail, they've already agreed that, well, no, women shouldn't have the right to defend themselves with guns.
01:37:10.000Now, in the States, right, well, why don't you use mace or pepper spray or a taser?
01:37:14.000Well, this shows you, let's fast forward a couple decades.
01:37:17.000If the left gets that, then they want to do away with mace and pepper spray, because that's also too mean.
01:37:23.000Then they want to do away with knives.
01:37:25.000Then they want to do away with fighting back altogether.
01:37:41.000It doesn't make for good commercials at all.
01:37:42.000As someone gives you their package deal.
01:37:44.000I wouldn't even argue that mace or pepper spray is the most effective weapon at all.
01:37:48.000I mean, even ruling out guns, I'll complete it.
01:37:50.000But that's, to me, what lit me up was not that part of it, but just the fact that women should have a choice, no matter what that choice is.
01:38:55.000We're going to have a telethon if we hit certain benchmarks on Mug Club subscribers that night where I will be waterboarded by none other than Army Ranger Tim Kennedy.
01:39:04.000Because he's qualified, it will be real waterboarding here in the studio at 500, 1,000, 1,500.
01:39:09.000When we hit 2,000 subscribers that night, I will be waterboarded live in studio.
01:40:27.000So basically what you're saying is if you have a taser and you give it to a woman who maybe forgets to bring her phone, either way, if it's needed, someone's getting raped.
01:41:04.000For assaulting a cab driver for supporting Donald Trump.
01:41:09.000So while we're talking about the tolerance of the left, can you imagine being this far out of touch where someone that you feel fine striking them?
01:41:23.000T.J. Miller, first off, he's never had his ass kicked.
01:41:25.000The gelatinous bag that he is because he thinks he's fine enough to not get his ass kicked.
01:41:30.000So a guy has walked through life without ever getting his ass kicked and thinks that his decisions...
01:41:35.000This is what happens with the entertainment industry because you're surrounded by so many people whose job is dependent on kissing your posterior that you actually think there's a world that exists and you live in it where you can hit people.
01:41:48.000Get people who are subservient to you, in your mind, like cab drivers and maids, in Arnold's case, porking them.
01:41:54.000Have you been to the USPS during Christmas?
01:42:05.000they deliver to your apartment right but they don't deliver because you're on the third floor they won't deliver to me because i'm on the third floor they refuse to deliver a package a package that weighed three ounces i've had fedex and poor scrawny usbs guys drag 55 75 pound boxes up all three flights of stairs but three ounce base plate for a tripod was a little heavy so i go to their policy they don't deliver on the third floor I don't know.
01:42:28.000I think they said they're not required to because it's a safety hazard for all those three ounces in a box.
01:42:33.000And so, by all means, screw my Christmas.
01:42:37.000So I went to the post office to say, okay, fine, I will go.
01:42:41.000I will get my package from your office.
01:42:43.000Their office is only open from 8 to 5.30.
01:44:22.000Anyways, long story short, or short story long, it ends with me walking out, screaming Merry Christmas a-holes and slamming the door, to which I still not receive my package.
01:46:37.000Alright, I know the comments that are going to occur.
01:46:40.000They're going to say, she is very, very cute for a feminist, which I know sounds horrible, but it is absolutely true, of Red Pill documentary fame.
01:46:49.000Cassie J., thank you for being with us.
01:46:54.000So has this been a whirlwind for you with this documentary that's come out because it's lit everything ablaze and you're accused of hate speech now and being a self-loathing woman from everything to misogyny.
01:47:29.000Her position before, I won't misrepresent her, she'll describe it after the clip, was that of a feminist before venturing into this research, and it changed her opinions, and the backlash has been outrageous from some on the regressive left.
01:48:42.000You set out, and a lot of people say this, but you genuinely set out to make this film.
01:48:45.000And did this authentically change during the process of making the film to sort of taking the red pill and learning about men's rights?
01:48:53.000I'm using these terms in quotations because, you know, these are labels people have put on them.
01:48:57.000Yeah, well, so initially I set out to make a different film than the film that is now the Red Pill movie.
01:49:04.000I thought I was going to film men's rights activists for a year and be a fly-on-the-wall approach, just showing them saying, I assumed, misogynistic, you know, women bashing kind of things, and that would be the film exposing essentially this underground So, that was the film I thought I was making.
01:49:26.000And as I started to meet each men's rights activist on and on until 44 people I interviewed over a year, I realized that it wasn't so black and white and the way that the mainstream media had been portraying them was not the same experience that I had.
01:49:43.000And also this kind of sideline plot line was that my own feminist views were changing along the way.
01:49:51.000Ended up deciding to include that in the film.
01:49:53.000And that, of course, was met with the left accusing you of being misogynistic and a hate speaker.
01:49:59.000Now, do you consider yourself more liberal from what I've read?
01:50:04.000Yes, I am a registered Democrat, but I also think this past year especially, something's shaken up in the political sphere, at least in the U.S., and I personally know a lot of my liberal friends,
01:50:20.000myself included, were really kind of annoyed and, well, I'm pretty distraught with what's happening with liberals nowadays, and I think the social justice warrior element of it is, you know, the toxic element.
01:50:36.000Right, well, that would lead me to ask, kind of, you know, people like Christina Hoff Summers, what do you think now, or did you have a different opinion before, sort of women in this side of the movement, where you find yourself now, and has your opinion on people like that changed?
01:50:49.000Because, you know, I've spoken with her, I've, on stage, I mean, with her, we've done speaking engagements, and she has met with some of the most vitriolic hatred, ironically enough, pretty much so.
01:50:59.000I think I might have heard the B word out there once or twice at UMass, Cassie.
01:51:05.000Has your viewpoint been on them before and after?
01:51:09.000Well, with Christina Hoff Summers and Camille Paglia, I think where I've ended up after making this film is a little different than them.
01:51:18.000In that, spoiler alert, after making the film, I no longer call myself a feminist, whereas they still do.
01:51:24.000And I think, you know, they're trying to work within the movement to change it.
01:51:27.000Why is that important to you to remove even just the title feminist?
01:51:31.000So it seems like that's a proactive decision based on some sort of toxicity.
01:51:36.000Yeah, well, I definitely thought long and hard about, you know, should I keep the label to work within the movement and try to make, you know, better change?
01:51:42.000But I realized that any feminists that I interviewed spoke with, you know, people at Ms., the leaders and scholars of the feminist movement, my own feminist friends, and some I think would be...
01:51:56.000More classified as equity versus radical, but all of them across the board believed in patriarchy theory, and that's definitely a platform position.
01:52:06.000You have to believe that if you're going to call yourself a feminist.
01:52:09.000And also, when I would say I'm making a film about the men's rights movement, all of them would say, men's rights, what rights are men being denied?
01:52:17.000And so that really made me think, if feminism is a movement for gender equality, why can they not say a single men's rights issue?
01:52:56.000I've actually received a lot of emails while making this film, and especially since last year when we launched our Kickstarter campaign, because that was when I first went public with making this film.
01:53:04.000So I got all these emails from a lot of mothers and grandmothers talking about what their sons are dealing with, their grandsons, and a lot of what they were dealing with is this...
01:53:14.000It's kind of normalized male bashing in school that it's okay to tease guys, even hit guys in class.
01:53:22.000I know Karen Strawn heard that, or someone she was talking to said that a girl went up to a boy in school and hit him and said, you can't hit me back, I'm a woman.
01:53:33.000You know, we have to go to a break soon.
01:53:35.000Can we bring it back for one more segment?
01:55:21.000All right, we are we are back, and I have to apologize.
01:55:44.000She's a very nice, nice lady on the show, and I didn't realize, for people who aren't familiar with our commercial breaks, sometimes these get a little awkward.
01:55:52.000Cassie J, Cassie underscore J, with an E. I'm sorry, Cassie.
01:55:58.000I should have warned you, but I appreciate you sticking it out.
01:57:13.000Jordan's laughing his ass off here, and you just crushed the kid's trachea.
01:57:19.000Yeah, they can raise someone if you do it hard enough.
01:57:22.000But, yeah, so, and this was, you know, everyone was agreeing, yeah, that's good, you know, suggestion, and, you know, so that's, you know, what's happening on Facebook.
01:57:30.000Well, that's a cultural sort of treatment of men, right?
01:57:33.000But I know in your film you sort of address more, we use the term, you know, systemic a lot, it's overused, but sort of systemic disadvantages that men face.
01:57:55.000Okay, so going through the lifespan of a boy, and this is obviously a very contentious issue, but male genital mutilation starts right at birth.
01:58:04.000In the U.S., it's one of the highest rates.
01:58:06.000And then we go into school, and boys are having to adhere to...
01:58:13.000Female kind of ways of learning, which is sitting still in the seat and even this kind of war on recess.
01:58:19.000You know, boys need to move around and be active.
01:58:22.000And then going to college with affirmative action.
01:58:26.000Boys are, you know, put on the back burner, wait in line for us to get some more diversity in school.
01:58:34.000Quasi is getting the spot before a man named Clarence, generally.
01:58:59.000And that shows you when they're allowed to study in their own element, when they're allowed to take their own time and learn the way men process information.
01:59:05.000I'm not saying men are smarter, but your floor.
01:59:21.000And so here are all these, you know, college-educated girls.
01:59:24.000Women going to med school and then getting out of college and saying we're all the good men, but it's because girls like to marry up, marry into a higher status than they currently have.
01:59:34.000And so we have failure to launch with boys, boys that are still staying in their parents' basement.
01:59:40.000Gaming, pornography is some issues once it's taken to an extreme level.
01:59:45.000And let's see, later in life, obviously, family.
01:59:48.000I think that's really when men's rights activists start to join the movement is during family court and so custody battles, alimony.
01:59:57.000And what I found with Making the Red Pill is that feminist organizations have Historically fought joint custody legislation.
02:00:06.000So family court, obviously, and then later in life...
02:00:09.000And actually, single moms are more likely to abuse a child than single fathers.
02:00:36.000And the reason why is because when men hit a woman, we've been told this is sexist to say, most women in this situation are relatively powerless physically, right?
02:00:46.000In the opposite case, it's usually not true.
02:00:49.000Not saying it's acceptable, but my wife's given me a swat or two and I deserved it.
02:00:57.000Yeah, well, you know, and also, you know, if the police are called to a domestic violence situation, the automatic assumption is that he's the primary aggressor, you know, because of his size, even though women use objects and weapons more often in domestic violence situations.
02:01:14.000So, you know, there is an equalizer, but, yeah, so...
02:01:20.000Let me ask you this, then, kind of moving, and that's true, and people can go, where's the best place for people to find this film, Cassie?
02:01:25.000The RedPillMovie.com Did you at that point realize or think that you were going to be met with the banning from film festivals,
02:01:56.000At that point, did you think, okay, this could go into some murky territory or were you still unaware of today's left and their reactions?
02:02:04.000Well, so we released the film about two months ago, and when we did release the film, I certainly was concerned with how people included in the film, or what they were going to think of the film, because no one had seen the film before the premiere.
02:02:18.000But the film is extremely balanced, and I let everyone speak in context.
02:02:22.000And so I thought, you know, I was going to have the same kind of reactions from my previous films, which is saying that, yeah, it's a very complex issue, and the filmmaker took a very balanced approach and wanted to let all sides have their time to speak.
02:02:36.000And, you know, ultimately with all my films, I just wanted my audiences to understand the gray area that I came to learn by making whatever films I've been making over the years.
02:02:46.000And so that's the same with The Red Pill, but...
02:02:49.000Then the backlash with, you know, being banned in Melbourne and Sydney being pulled from a theater there and then Ottawa and a petition in Berlin.
02:03:00.000So we've had a lot of resistance to this film and You know, at the time I was like, you know, this is so silly and this is censorship and, you know, and I'm glad it did inspire a free speech kind of conversation.
02:03:15.000But also I'm okay with what's happened because once the film is worldwide, available worldwide online in a couple months, I think, you know, all those protests are going to look so silly because the film itself is extremely balanced and we do let everyone have their say.
02:03:32.000Isn't that indicative of, and I know there's been a shakeup in the political sphere, but isn't that indicative of really only one side of the political spectrum today?
02:03:40.000For example, you said you're more liberal, you're a registered Democrat.
02:03:43.000We just had Sally Cohn on and Alex Jones, and then you talk about an eclectic mix.
02:03:47.000I don't need you to agree with me on everything.
02:03:49.000If you go out after this and say, hey, I'm pro-abortion, pro-choice, I'm like, oh, okay, well, I think she's wrong on that issue and we can discuss it.
02:03:55.000But it really is the left who goes, she went off the reservation on the feminism thing.
02:04:02.000Has that been an awakening experience?
02:04:04.000Yes, because I'm not a men's rights activist.
02:04:07.000I haven't even become a conservative by making this film, but I definitely feel uprooted.
02:04:13.000I feel like my entire worldview has...
02:04:16.000Now I feel like I'm in a blank slate after making this film.
02:04:20.000I don't know what to believe anymore because I saw so much...
02:04:24.000False reporting about me and the film from these liberal media sources that I've always read and trusted.
02:04:30.000Like The Guardian, you know, Vice is one of the worst now.
02:04:34.000So I'm able to see how much my own story has been twisted out of context and made me to look like a misogynist and a racist and all these things.
02:04:44.000But it's so much easier to do that because you're pretty.
02:04:56.000I mean, it's extremely upsetting that there are so many feminists who have gone on the direct attack towards me when I think the film advocates for gender equality.
02:05:10.000Michael Kimmel, who was included in my film.
02:05:12.000He attended the world premiere, and he was a part of the Q&A after the screening.
02:05:15.000And he even said, I don't see anything in this film that's not in the ERA, the Equal Rights Amendment, that all people should be treated equally regardless of their gender.
02:05:24.000I feel like he was, you know, indirectly endorsing the film, saying he agrees with what's in the film.
02:05:30.000But still, all of, you know, his compadres are taking...
02:05:53.000The Facebook now is going to label and bury fake news.
02:05:56.000And on their council to determine what's fake is going to be ABC News and Snopes and I'm sure some people at NBC... I had this kind of awakening earlier on, but reading this stuff about you from supposedly legitimate publications that you know is fabricated or you know is false, does that make you concerned with the people who are allies?
02:06:15.000I mean, Facebook, Guardian, Twitter, they're going to be determining what's real and fake when we know they fake it?
02:06:23.000And it's scary to think that I wouldn't even realize how messed up the media is if it weren't for this past year with the release of this film.
02:06:30.000But now, you know, the only thing that I know for certain, without any question, is my own story and my own film and who I am.
02:06:39.000And so being able to see how I've been, you know, twisted by the media is there's, you know, I know for We're good to go.
02:07:11.000Okay, so when I was making the red pill, the main go-to cherry-picked soundbite by a voice for men, Paul E. Lim, he's one of the leaders of the men's rights movement.
02:07:23.000The cherry-picked soundbite was he said, October should be Bash a Violent Bitch Month.
02:07:27.000And it was satirical, it was to make a bigger point about, you know, men should defend themselves.
02:07:31.000But that was the go-to cherry-picked comment that the liberal media used to attack the men's rights movement.
02:07:35.000So I include that in the film, because everyone was talking about that.
02:07:38.000So then the film was released, and this liberal blogger realized that I debunked that quote.
02:07:45.000So, you know, this one troll blogger who I'm not going to mention, I don't want to give him any more press than he asked.
02:07:54.000So he decided, I'm pretty sure it was him, he, I swear, it's like he has a window and it's like a ticket man to get on the train or something.
02:08:05.000And so mainstream liberal sources are going to this little ticket window and he said, oh, she already dumbed up that quote.
02:08:10.000Okay, let me find another quote from Paul Ilum.
02:08:13.000And then every mainstream media source said, why don't you call out Paul Ilum's quote in your film when he said X, Y, Z? And it's So they're changing, you know, constantly changing the script.
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02:14:15.000Was a liberal, secular, atheist, agnostic Jew.
02:14:20.000And that night, after two nights of sleeping in my car...
02:14:25.000When I drove into his apartment complex in Hollywood, he laughed, made fun of me as I drove in this crappy 82 Datsun and took me in that night and gave me a place to stay that night and gave me food and took me out with his family.
02:14:42.000And I stayed there for several months.
02:16:35.000I think the way I see the world would be a more productive, healthy way for him to view the world.
02:16:41.000But I can't say that he didn't care about the world.
02:16:45.000I can't say that somehow I was better than him in the way I was trying to help the world.
02:16:54.000You can be right and be an ass, and you can be wrong and still be someone who's trying to do the right thing.
02:17:03.000And it really, when this happened, it impacted me in a way that I didn't realize that a big part of who I am, and a big part of what this show is, that you hear, when you see the way we interact with a Sally Cohn, when you see the way we interact with...
02:17:23.000And you see the difference between – I obviously love the guy.
02:17:27.000I think we posted the Tucker Carlson's of the world, the people who set out to destroy people, voices of opposition.
02:17:32.000And I'd like to think that we try to do some convincing.
02:17:36.000I'd like to think that the reason a huge bulk of our audience is liberal or don't agree with me is because I treat these conversations the way I would in Seymour's apartment.