Louder with Crowder - #114 MEDIA HATES THE TRUMP! Tim Kennedy + Ann McElhinney | Louder With Crowder

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00:02:20.000 That sound is, of course, the sound of the weekend.

00:02:23.000 I know we're daily now, so it's not always the sound of the weekend, but this is the Thursday live stream.

00:02:27.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.98

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00:02:37.000 Big show.

00:02:37.000 Big show coming up this evening.

00:02:38.000 We had to, by the way, for those who are disappointed, Bo Derek will be moved to next week, because Tim Kennedy is on tonight, because he's been all over the news.

00:02:46.000 So that was kind of necessary and we were able to get them in Anne McElhinney talking about the new Gosnell book she has coming out, of course, in relation to the Women's Life March and your tweets later on in the program.

00:02:56.000 So be sure to have those live tweets ready.

00:02:58.000 We'll be happy to read them.

00:02:59.000 Big story right now.

00:03:02.000 Big story.

00:03:03.000 Yes.

00:03:03.000 Doomsday.

00:03:04.000 Have you guys heard about this?

00:03:05.000 I have.

00:03:06.000 Doomsday.

00:03:07.000 This is when it's a slow news cycle.

00:03:08.000 You have stories that actually include the word doomsday.

00:03:12.000 That's how you know it's slow.

00:03:14.000 CBS News, they ran a live stream with scientists.

00:03:18.000 I'm doing a lot of air quotes already.

00:03:19.000 I don't like how this is beginning.

00:03:21.000 Who've decided to now move the doomsday clock up.

00:03:24.000 From three minutes to midnight to two and a half minutes to midnight.

00:03:27.000 The quote, world leaders have failed to come to grips with humanity's most pressing existential threats.

00:03:35.000 Pressing, what am I, John Malkovich?

00:03:36.000 The most pressing existential threats.

00:03:40.000 Nuclear weapons and climate change.

00:03:42.000 Disturbing comment.

00:03:43.000 Nothing for John Malkovich.

00:03:44.000 Okay, I'll work on it.

00:03:45.000 Disturbing comments about the use and proliferation of nuclear weapons made by Donald Trump, as well as the expressed disbelief in the overwhelming scientific consensus on climate change by both Trump and several of his cabinet appointees affected the board's decision, as did the emergence of strident nationalism worldwide.

00:03:59.000 Um...

00:04:00.000 Okay, so Donald Trump was of course specifically mentioned and CBS took this incredible...

00:04:06.000 they took this, what you're reading, very seriously as displayed by this man at CBS who appears to be soiling himself.

00:04:12.000 Just moments ago that doomsday clock moved forward 30 seconds and now stands at two and a half minutes before midnight.

00:04:20.000 That's the closest to midnight or the end of the world as it's been in 64 years.

00:04:26.000 It is a metaphor, but we are literally minutes away from a nuclear exchange should someone press a button.

00:04:34.000 Apparently metaphors are quite literal now.

00:04:38.000 It's an analogy, but literally it's not.

00:04:42.000 Also, that guy pooped himself.

00:04:44.000 This is me or his face.

00:04:45.000 He had kind of that Gary Shandling.

00:04:47.000 Oh, what's this?

00:04:48.000 It matters to the story. 0.99

00:04:50.000 I think it's the bullshit phone, I think. 0.99

00:04:52.000 It is! 1.00

00:04:52.000 It's the bullshit phone! 1.00

00:04:59.000 Commissioner Bullshit? 1.00

00:04:59.000 Hello? 1.00

00:05:01.000 Yes, sir.

00:05:03.000 Right away, sir.

00:05:03.000 Uh-huh, sir.

00:05:04.000 Understood, sir. 0.99

00:05:05.000 *claps* *crash* *claps* Bullshit *claps* *claps* Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit *claps* *claps* You gave a lot of work to yourself with the sensor button on that one. 0.99

00:05:25.000 That was catchy though. 1.00

00:05:27.000 I've just been informed by Commissioner Bullshit that this story is in fact 100% unadulterated Bullshit. 0.91

00:05:34.000 This is not science. 0.70

00:05:35.000 First off, let me clarify this.

00:05:36.000 A live stream of scientists complaining about nationalism and tying that into a political...

00:05:41.000 That's not what science is.

00:05:42.000 That's not what good science makes.

00:05:44.000 And I know people will say, you're dealing...

00:05:45.000 No, we're not dealing in junk science, okay?

00:05:47.000 A live stream where you tie a nuclear holocaust directly to Donald Trump, directly to climate change, directly to polar bears dying.

00:05:53.000 These are the same people who've made several other predictions.

00:05:56.000 Isn't it good that we have these examples?

00:05:58.000 If we didn't, you might think we're lying to you.

00:06:00.000 No, if you want that, head on over to CPS.

00:06:02.000 Predictions when Donald Trump will become president.

00:06:05.000 They said the stock market would crash.

00:06:06.000 That was a concrete prediction they made.

00:06:09.000 Dow Jones for the first time hit 20,000 yesterday.

00:06:11.000 Another prediction, they said mosques would be a thing of the past as soon as Donald Trump was elected.

00:06:16.000 But that has not happened.

00:06:18.000 They also said same-sex marriage would be overturned, was another prediction that they made.

00:06:21.000 Same-sex marriage would be overturned according to their predictions.

00:06:25.000 That has not happened.

00:06:26.000 As a matter of fact, Donald Trump doesn't really care about two rump rangers getting hitched.

00:06:31.000 Doesn't seem to be at the top of his radar right now.

00:06:34.000 The Science March, that's of course why this live stream occurred.

00:06:36.000 The Science March, which implies what?

00:06:38.000 That all Republicans, conservatives are against science, except these are the same people explaining to you that there are 52 genders.

00:06:45.000 This is the same political wing that predicted the ice caps would melt entirely by 2013.

00:06:50.000 Gone.

00:06:51.000 And then when they realized that wasn't the case, they shift the prediction to 2016, and now we haven't heard from the guy.

00:06:56.000 By the way, the Florida Keys are still lovely.

00:06:58.000 They still are lovely.

00:06:59.000 Someone tweeted me today, why don't you go to Florida and see all the cities that are dying?

00:07:02.000 I actually have relatives in Florida.

00:07:04.000 I visit them every year, and they live on the coast.

00:07:05.000 It's quite lovely.

00:07:06.000 And finally, these are the same people who made the prediction that the polar bears would die off when there are actually more right now, arguably, than ever in recorded history.

00:07:14.000 The only debate is whether they've in fact doubled or tripled or maybe added about 50%, but there are far more polar bears now than there were when Al Gore did his film. 0.98

00:07:24.000 So when these people give you these doomsday predictions on a live stream, we can tell you beyond any shadow of a doubt that this is unequivocally bullshit. 1.00

00:07:32.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:07:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:38.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:07:40.000 Okay. 1.00

00:07:41.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:07:43.000 Let the f*** play out. 1.00

00:07:44.000 Let it go. 0.99

00:07:47.000 In case we didn't drive that point home.

00:07:48.000 That phone is heavy, I wanted to make sure we didn't put a hole through the wall. 0.99

00:07:53.000 Bullshit phone, it's carrying a lot of weight! 0.98

00:07:56.000 Something I'd like to get into, macro, I think matters, is we were at the march, and some people have asked us, you know, what is it that these people were marching about? 0.98

00:08:03.000 And every now and then, people ask me questions and I really don't have the answer to them.

00:08:08.000 And so it makes me want to ask that question.

00:08:11.000 And it is one of the questions where if I got an answer with new evidence, with new information that I don't currently have, I'd be more than open to changing my opinion.

00:08:19.000 So if there's someone out there who's a feminist or a Black Lives Matter activist who's actually willing to come on the program and set me straight, I would welcome you if you look to our interviews with Sally Cohn, with Christopher Titus, with Zach Ford, with Harrison Greenbaum.

00:08:32.000 We've had plenty of leftists on the show.

00:08:33.000 We really do try and keep it respectful, even if I disagree with you.

00:08:37.000 I would like to know, what is it when we're talking about equality, these marches?

00:08:41.000 When we asked, they had no answer, but what is equality?

00:08:43.000 I want to know when people say we're fighting for equal rights today, what does that mean?

00:08:48.000 Feminists, what are you talking about? 1.00

00:08:49.000 I understand at one point in this country, well, we want the right to vote.

00:08:52.000 Good.

00:08:53.000 Got it.

00:08:54.000 We want the right to receive equal pay.

00:08:56.000 You should for the same job.

00:08:57.000 We want the right to go out and purchase the same goods or services that men do or that white people do or that non-trans people do. 0.75

00:09:06.000 Understood.

00:09:07.000 But in 2017, when you go out and you march, and the media refers to this as the biggest modern civil rights march of all time, it begs the question, okay, what civil rights?

00:09:18.000 What are we talking about when we're talking about equality?

00:09:20.000 Now, I know when I talk about equality, I'm talking about equal opportunity.

00:09:23.000 I'm talking about constitutional equality, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.

00:09:28.000 And maybe I'm off, but I don't see it today.

00:09:31.000 I mean, I can see how people would have argued, you know, before the gay marriage thing.

00:09:35.000 I don't really think that marriage is a fundamental human right.

00:09:37.000 We can get into that.

00:09:39.000 I guess, you know, trannies being able to take a dump on the neutral bathroom on a plane. 1.00

00:09:44.000 That's important stuff. 0.84

00:09:45.000 That's important.

00:09:45.000 I understand.

00:09:46.000 But beyond that, you know, the bigger These are the bigger issues.

00:10:12.000 Straight male that is not afforded.

00:10:15.000 To a female? 0.81

00:10:16.000 To a person of color?

00:10:18.000 You can't say African American.

00:10:19.000 That switched fast. 0.96

00:10:21.000 To a gay person? 0.99

00:10:23.000 Tweet me at escrowder. 0.98

00:10:24.000 I would love to hear that.

00:10:25.000 Speaking of which, HuffPo proudly reported yesterday...

00:10:33.000 freeholder over a joke.

00:10:35.000 Here was his joke.

00:10:37.000 He tweeted it out.

00:10:38.000 He put it on Facebook.

00:10:39.000 Sorry.

00:10:40.000 He said something along the lines of, you know, the women's march.

00:10:44.000 Good for you.

00:10:45.000 I want to know, will the women be home in time to cook dinner? 1.00

00:10:48.000 Pretty benign.

00:10:50.000 Pretty benign.

00:10:51.000 You would think.

00:10:52.000 It's not even that clever.

00:10:53.000 No, it's not that clever.

00:10:54.000 And so, as you can see from these images, I think we'll bring up, there's a video somewhere online, I believe, women actually lined up at the next public meeting to protest him.

00:11:05.000 There you go.

00:11:05.000 They're literally lined up the door.

00:11:07.000 And they sat and they asked him to apologize.

00:11:08.000 And he did.

00:11:09.000 He did apologize.

00:11:10.000 He said it wasn't meant to offend anybody.

00:11:12.000 And all the strong women in my life who saw it took it for what it was, a joke.

00:11:16.000 And it wasn't enough.

00:11:18.000 That's a lot of women. 1.00

00:11:19.000 Someone definitely missed No, no.

00:11:20.000 They still walked out on him when he was explaining this.

00:11:23.000 And I just, I think we've gone beyond the bend here.

00:11:26.000 Should a politician tweet that from a political account?

00:11:28.000 Maybe not.

00:11:29.000 But has this really wounded you to the point that you have lost all trust in your public servants that a guy tweeted a joke about sandwiches? 0.90

00:11:37.000 And by the way, it's not that much of a joke because we know that feminists can't cook. 1.00

00:11:42.000 So of all the people to be upset by the...

00:11:44.000 Yeah.

00:11:45.000 Yeah.

00:11:47.000 Hi, Mr.

00:11:47.000 Crowder.

00:11:48.000 My name is Julie.

00:11:49.000 I had heard that you made a comment regarding the Women's March last week where Ashley Judd made a speech that she was probably on her menstrual cycle.

00:11:58.000 Did I make a joke about that?

00:11:59.000 I don't recall making that.

00:12:01.000 Yeah, I think you did.

00:12:02.000 Did I? You know what?

00:12:05.000 I'm looking through.

00:12:06.000 I don't think I did.

00:12:07.000 I think you did.

00:12:08.000 I think this happened.

00:12:09.000 She spent a lot of time on the period thing, which makes me think, Jesus.

00:12:14.000 I'm kidding.

00:12:15.000 She's absolutely barren. 1.00

00:12:16.000 Let's go to clip three. 0.59

00:12:18.000 You know, upon reflection, I think I did say that.

00:12:20.000 Yeah, you did say that.

00:12:21.000 So are you going to apologize for that?

00:12:23.000 I have no intention of apologizing, no.

00:12:26.000 Oh.

00:12:27.000 I think that's really mean.

00:12:28.000 Okay.

00:12:28.000 Well, thank you.

00:12:31.000 We need to get better security in here.

00:12:32.000 I don't know how they got in.

00:12:34.000 It's interesting, too, when we talk about equal rights, that women have seemingly gotten on board with pushing the Black Lives Matter agenda, where when you really understand about Margaret Sanger and what she thought about Hi, didn't you once fat shame a woman by saying her blood type was pudding?

00:12:52.000 I don't think I said that.

00:12:56.000 I don't believe so.

00:12:57.000 I think you did.

00:12:58.000 Actually, I'm looking through the archives here and I found this.

00:13:02.000 This is a morbidly obese woman. 1.00

00:13:05.000 Okay, for people who are listening terrestrially, look at the picture.

00:13:09.000 I mean, her blood type is pudding. 1.00

00:13:13.000 You know what?

00:13:14.000 I did say that.

00:13:16.000 So you're going to apologize for that, right?

00:13:18.000 No, no, I'm not.

00:13:20.000 Yeah, okay, thank you.

00:13:22.000 If we want to talk about systemic discrimination, I think that's a conversation we can have.

00:13:27.000 If you want to get to the women's suffrage movement, you want to get to the suffragettes, which are actually different, by the way.

00:13:32.000 Karen Strawn has talked about that, has talked about women getting the right to vote without having bucket duty, without having the draft. 1.00

00:13:37.000 If we want to discuss the...

00:13:40.000 Excuse me, Mr.

00:13:42.000 Crudler. 0.99

00:13:43.000 Is it true that you once made a joke about feminists being raped? 1.00

00:13:50.000 Oh, well, that actually does sound like something I might have done at one point. 0.94

00:13:55.000 I don't know if...

00:13:56.000 But I don't think it's what she thinks it is.

00:13:59.000 I did find this one example.

00:14:01.000 I don't know if this is what she's talking about.

00:14:03.000 Oh, yes. 0.99

00:14:03.000 The feminist raped in a forced joke. 0.99

00:14:05.000 Well, the context of that was because Lena Dunham and everyone was coming out with fake rape stories. 1.00

00:14:08.000 And they were always saying that there was no evidence.

00:14:10.000 And so it wasn't really a rape joke about feminists. 1.00

00:14:13.000 It was a joke about feminists just simply accusing rape when there was no evidence. 1.00

00:14:16.000 And so I did make that joke.

00:14:19.000 Yeah, well, you understand that it's still offending, you know, very much.

00:14:24.000 I can see.

00:14:26.000 Yes.

00:14:26.000 Are you planning to apologize for that?

00:14:28.000 Well, I'm sure you probably saw this one coming.

00:14:31.000 No.

00:14:32.000 Yes, that's just terrible.

00:14:36.000 Okay, I understand.

00:14:39.000 You're going to have to bleep that, Jared, for our international audience.

00:14:42.000 That can present a problem.

00:14:45.000 Problematic.

00:14:46.000 Look, it looks like it's going to be tough to get a word in edgewise here.

00:14:49.000 We have a lineup out the door.

00:14:50.000 It's almost like there's a new Star Wars film.

00:14:53.000 I don't know how this happened, and apparently we have to let somebody go in security.

00:14:57.000 We'll be back to talk about equality and talk more about Donald Trump after this.

00:15:01.000 I have to go talk to security.

00:15:05.000 So why can't we go to the busy where the dreams are in the sky?

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00:15:59.000 All right, glad to be back.

00:16:13.000 We have Tim Kennedy coming up after the break, then later Ann McElhinney and your tweets.

00:16:17.000 By the way, still going on right now.

00:16:19.000 Shia LaBeouf's He Will Not Divide Us live stream.

00:16:22.000 That's still happening.

00:16:23.000 Okay, so no, still going on.

00:16:24.000 He was arrested.

00:16:25.000 We wrote about this.

00:16:26.000 I think he's out of the clink now.

00:16:27.000 He should be good.

00:16:28.000 We'll check in on that a little bit later because...

00:16:31.000 We'll get some press now.

00:16:32.000 People will want to see that.

00:16:34.000 Okay, let's get to this point here.

00:16:37.000 Going macro point, kind of like equality.

00:16:39.000 Have you noticed right now that the media and Paul Krugman and New York Times are all saying, you know what, no, it's important.

00:16:45.000 You need to call Donald Trump on his lies.

00:16:47.000 You need to stop being afraid to stand up to Donald Trump.

00:16:50.000 You've been hearing this, right?

00:16:51.000 Yeah, Keith Olbermann even said it.

00:16:53.000 Yeah, Keith Olbermann, that's right, Keith Olbermann.

00:16:55.000 Mr.

00:16:57.000 Maybelline himself, Keith Olbermann.

00:17:00.000 I don't know if...

00:17:01.000 What parallel universe are they living in where nobody's speaking out against Donald Trump and the media?

00:17:07.000 I was like, you need to be brave, you need to be willing to...

00:17:09.000 What?

00:17:11.000 The other day was an entire gender that was supposed to be speaking out. 1.00

00:17:15.000 Yeah, it was an entire gender, according to Aziz Ansari.

00:17:17.000 Good point.

00:17:18.000 An entire gender was speaking out against Donald Trump.

00:17:20.000 And so this is kind of like in the entertainment industry, the idea of a journalist who will forego the money to maintain their honesty and integrity and going after the story.

00:17:31.000 Those kinds of journalists, they only exist in film.

00:17:33.000 In real life, you've got the Dan Rathers, you've got the Brian Williams, you've got the Keith Olbermanns.

00:17:39.000 Here is something on the other side of the coin.

00:17:41.000 Let me present this to you.

00:17:42.000 Not only do they stand up to Donald Trump, they completely bully anyone and everyone who even mildly supports him.

00:17:53.000 If you look when it's a slow news day, it is nothing but anti-Trump.

00:17:57.000 Listen, I understand this.

00:17:58.000 You should stand up to Donald Trump if he lies.

00:18:00.000 You should stand up to Sean Spicer is incorrect.

00:18:03.000 If he cites a number that's inaccurate.

00:18:05.000 We do.

00:18:05.000 You can all have even some fun at his expense.

00:18:10.000 I don't know if I just had a stroke with that word twister. 0.90

00:18:12.000 How much would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck suck at hosting a show? 0.95

00:18:17.000 That was me. 0.98

00:18:18.000 Um...

00:18:19.000 That's fine.

00:18:20.000 But then if you look at the media, the ones who are patting themselves on the back incessantly for standing up and you look at the trivial crap after which they attack the Trumps, it's one of those things where I don't know if they're doing it to try and create a narrative that's false or that they're delusional.

00:18:38.000 What do you think is more likely as a possibility?

00:18:41.000 I think they're probably just addicted to the hatred.

00:18:44.000 Yes, they're addicted to the hatred.

00:18:48.000 Just hook it to my veins, BuzzFeed.

00:18:51.000 So let's grab a few examples.

00:18:53.000 Policy?

00:18:54.000 Fine.

00:18:54.000 Trade?

00:18:55.000 Fine.

00:18:55.000 Even taxes, maybe you disagree.

00:18:57.000 Fine.

00:18:57.000 You can do that.

00:18:58.000 But Samantha Bee, for example, these are the brave journalists.

00:19:01.000 Samantha Bee took it upon herself to go on an entire rant about Donald Trump's inauguration. 1.00

00:19:07.000 In a, wait for it, in a very bitchy, snide, unfunny way. 1.00

00:19:12.000 Now listen, I know you'll say, yes I do that as well, but I don't act as though I'm brave for standing, now of course it is more brave to do what we do from our side of the aisle, being younger, being conservative on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter as you see by the bannings, but there's nothing brave about someone like Samantha Bee standing up to Trump by mocking, well just watch this clip and see if you understand where I'm coming from.

00:19:33.000 Did I mention the concert was officially called the Make America Great Again!

00:19:39.000 Welcome Celebration?

00:19:41.000 And what makes America great?

00:19:43.000 Apparently, the total absence of any women whatsoever.

00:19:47.000 Trump's concert was like his cabinet.

00:19:49.000 Male, overwhelmingly white, and devoid of A-list talent. 1.00

00:19:54.000 She has a vagina. 1.00

00:19:58.000 Um... 1.00

00:19:59.000 Again, this is standing...

00:20:00.000 People who are terrified into silence don't simply mock someone like the popular girl at high school for not having talented artists.

00:20:08.000 And you know why Donald Trump couldn't get big-name artists?

00:20:11.000 Because they were intimidated into silence.

00:20:13.000 It would be braver for them to show up and perform because then we know that they'd be risking work.

00:20:18.000 In the entertainment industry, because you all fall lockstep with each other.

00:20:21.000 So again, let's continue on down this theme of journalists being, they need to start standing up.

00:20:25.000 Okay, well what about Seth Meyers, who took it upon himself to mock Donald Trump for watching too much television?

00:20:32.000 Yeah, this is what happens in a slow news cycle.

00:20:35.000 Seth Meyers standing up to Donald Trump, no longer being afraid by mocking his TV watching habits.

00:20:40.000 It has exactly been a reassuring start for the Trump administration, and some people close to Trump seem very eager to give reporters damning details about where he gets his information from, expressing concern in particular that he watches too much TV. Politico reported this week that, quote, one person who frequently talks to Trump said aides have to push back privately against his worst impulses in the White House and have to control information that may infuriate him.

00:21:04.000 He gets bored and likes to watch TV, so it is important to minimize that.

00:21:09.000 Hey, I hear ya.

00:21:10.000 I'm dealing with the same issue with my son.

00:21:12.000 He's nine months old, and we're trying to observe a no screens rule, but sometimes he gets cranky, and the only thing that works is Dora the Explorer.

00:21:19.000 So, been there.

00:21:22.000 That's kind of funny.

00:21:23.000 Sure.

00:21:24.000 But these are the same people who want you to believe that they're risking jail time by speaking out against an authoritarian figure.

00:21:29.000 I'll continue to present my case.

00:21:31.000 BuzzFeed had an article up, let's bring this up, where they were insisting that Mel Gibson, who's now being nominated for an Oscar, is the definitive Oscar nominee for Trump's America.

00:21:40.000 So let's be clear now.

00:21:42.000 These people want to act as though they need to be brave.

00:21:43.000 They're standing up.

00:21:44.000 They're doing the right thing.

00:21:46.000 Here, they're saying because Mel Gibson at one time went to crazy drunken anti-Semitic tirades, to be fair, could very well still be an anti-Semite.

00:21:56.000 Could be.

00:21:56.000 You can take the boy out of the anti-Semitism.

00:22:01.000 I don't know.

00:22:23.000 I could see where they made the connection.

00:22:25.000 The dots are there.

00:22:27.000 It just takes a little creativity.

00:22:28.000 But again, I do appreciate the backbone.

00:22:31.000 Same thing, BuzzFeed also took time to point out that searching for bigot or racist on Twitter brings up real Donald Trump.

00:22:38.000 By the way, these people want you to be on the lookout for fake news.

00:22:42.000 Yes.

00:22:43.000 You need not concern yourself with news coming from other political points of view.

00:22:46.000 This is breaking.

00:22:47.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:22:48.000 It's important because BuzzFeed Ben, Ben Smith, does act as though they are real newsmakers.

00:22:52.000 They are real news reporters.

00:22:53.000 I know you're probably laughing, right?

00:22:55.000 Congratulations, you're a rational person.

00:22:57.000 You're probably laughing when someone puts the words BuzzFeed and news into the same sentence, but they fan to themselves that way.

00:23:02.000 And they're the ones who've actually written articles saying it's time to stand up against Let's talk about Twitter searches and algorithms and copy-paste at the Donald Trump and pat ourselves on the back.

00:23:12.000 What else do we have?

00:23:13.000 We have, well, there's so much.

00:23:15.000 I mean, we can go down to CNN and BuzzFeed, the disaster.

00:23:18.000 But here's something that they even did.

00:23:19.000 It goes all the way down the line, not only making fun of Donald Trump's children.

00:23:22.000 I wasn't that outraged by it.

00:23:23.000 But again, we're talking about this pseudo-bravery. 0.99

00:23:26.000 They even went into the files to pull up for a charity event, campaign advisor, campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, a woman who would be praised for breaking through the glass ceiling if it had happened under the umbrella of the DNC or she showed her tits at a march. 1.00

00:23:42.000 But because she worked with Donald Trump, they had someone doing opposition research and they decided to make this a headline front page article at Huffington Post Watch Kellyanne Conway bombing at trying to do stand-up years ago for a charity function. 1.00

00:23:59.000 Emphasize on the trying to do stand-up.

00:24:02.000 Roll clip.

00:24:03.000 But you know, everybody's wondering about my leg.

00:24:05.000 It's the first thing they ask.

00:24:06.000 Kellyanne, what happened to your leg?

00:24:08.000 I'm like, well, everybody heard I was going to be in this comedy show, and they're like, break a leg.

00:24:11.000 So I did. 1.00

00:24:12.000 You think blondes are dumb. 1.00

00:24:15.000 Okay, at first glance, that is pretty bad. 1.00

00:24:18.000 But the point is, in order to attack Trump, these people who fancy themselves brave, it sounds like I'm repeating it because I feel the need to with every single story.

00:24:27.000 Keep in mind, they're saying we need to be brave.

00:24:28.000 You need to be brave and point out that Kellyanne Conway, who did some stand-up for a charity function, isn't good at it?

00:24:37.000 This is news?

00:24:38.000 I think I agree with Van Jones on this.

00:24:41.000 What in the holy heck is going on in America right now?

00:24:45.000 To be fair, I think we might have used that out of context.

00:24:48.000 I might have.

00:24:49.000 I don't think he's too fond of the Donald Trump.

00:24:52.000 I'm not.

00:24:53.000 Well, we have to get going this segment.

00:24:54.000 Sorry, I hope I've crystallized the picture for you.

00:24:57.000 But before we leave, you know, we actually need to check in Shia LaBeouf's.

00:25:00.000 He will not divide us, by the way, in case you haven't heard.

00:25:02.000 He will not divide us, his live stream.

00:25:04.000 And we're getting word that there actually might be a white supremacist there.

00:25:08.000 Let's check in.

00:25:09.000 He will not divide us.

00:25:13.000 He will not divide us.

00:25:16.000 They will not divide us.

00:25:26.000 He will not divide us, copper.

00:25:28.000 And I know my rights.

00:25:30.000 Yeah, but you didn't have the right to bite that protesting broad. 0.63

00:25:34.000 I have the right to remain silent.

00:25:36.000 And I will say nothing to you, boys.

00:25:39.000 Okay, but that'd be a shame for all this blue cheese to go to waste.

00:25:45.000 I'll tell you everything.

00:25:48.000 I'm disappointed in you, Hopper.

00:25:50.000 We had a lot riding you.

00:25:51.000 It doesn't take a lot to buy you off.

00:25:53.000 I'm disappointed.

00:25:54.000 Where's your loyalty to God and country, sir?

00:25:57.000 Speaking of God and country, we have Tim Kennedy, one of our wonderful veterans, coming up after this.

00:26:03.000 Stay tuned.

00:26:03.000 P-O-G-O Dormio.

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00:26:23.000 We should do some Dormillo like commercials, like sketches.

00:26:26.000 Maybe like you and I could like...

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00:26:30.000 Maybe like two.

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00:26:33.000 Like Bert and Ernie, maybe?

00:26:35.000 We could do it that way.

00:26:36.000 How about no mattresses and I throw you in the pool? 0.64

00:26:38.000 Get out of my bed.

00:26:39.000 Well, just think about it.

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00:26:42.000 Just get back to me when you want.

00:26:44.000 I just...

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00:27:18.000 Within the sound of silence. 0.99

00:27:25.000 You're a strange animal. 0.98

00:27:26.000 That's what I know. 1.00

00:27:31.000 But you're a strange animal.

00:27:37.000 I haven't danced to that one in a while because we have a new custom made track.

00:27:40.000 Good friend of the show all over the news today.

00:27:43.000 You know him.

00:27:44.000 You love him.

00:27:45.000 He waterboarded me.

00:27:46.000 You can follow him at Tim Kennedy.

00:27:47.000 Some may say that's why they love him.

00:27:49.000 Some may say.

00:27:50.000 We were just talking about that.

00:27:51.000 I read that on some news article today.

00:27:53.000 It said Tim Kennedy, who most recently waterboarded Steven Crowder as part of a Christmas telethon, makes it sound so much more worse than it actually was.

00:28:01.000 It does.

00:28:02.000 It wasn't that bad.

00:28:03.000 It wasn't that bad.

00:28:04.000 You were very gentle.

00:28:06.000 Okay, so let's go through the sequence of events here that led to why you're on the program.

00:28:12.000 First off, so it was Deadspin, a sports website.

00:28:15.000 And you can correct me if I get anything wrong here.

00:28:17.000 Ted Cruz said he was playing basketball on the hill.

00:28:20.000 And so Deadspin asked him to send proof.

00:28:23.000 And he sent this tweet, which Tim can't see.

00:28:25.000 But he sent this tweet of a picture of a basketball player who looked like Ted Cruz.

00:28:30.000 As a gag, it was actually pretty funny. 1.00

00:28:32.000 This player looks like Ted Cruz, to which Deadspin promptly responded, go eat shit. 0.99

00:28:39.000 So I want to make sure, some would say they were the instigator here. 0.99

00:28:43.000 And then Ted Cruz posted the Anchorman meme that escalated quickly.

00:28:46.000 I was like, okay, good thing the guy has a sense of humor.

00:28:48.000 Then this reporter on Deadspin goes out and effectively challenges any and all Ted Cruz supporters to a fight and claims that no one will take him up on it.

00:28:59.000 Enter Tim Kennedy.

00:29:01.000 Emma, do I have that timeline about right?

00:29:03.000 Yeah, but he really doubled down on...

00:29:05.000 I mean, it wasn't like he just initially was like, hey, let's all fight.

00:29:09.000 There was more to it.

00:29:11.000 Yeah, I mean, after Ted Cruz sent that picture of that Duke basketball player, which I thought was funny, and then it was like, oh, wow, that escalated quickly when he started cussing at us.

00:29:19.000 And then Tim got on there, Marchman, and started just ranting all these ugly things, calling people all these horrible names and saying nasty things and cussing at people.

00:29:31.000 And then he's like...

00:29:34.000 He just went on and on and on.

00:29:36.000 I don't know what was going on, like what bad cup of coffee he had.

00:29:41.000 It was a mitotoxin, so he needs to get Dave Asprey's coffee, mitotoxin-free.

00:29:46.000 Remember that?

00:29:46.000 He needs it.

00:29:47.000 Finally, he's like, alright, well, I'm not getting enough attention, so I'm just going to call all these people and tell them that I'll fight them.

00:29:55.000 And then after he did that, he doubled down and was like, not only are all these people not going to fight me, but they probably can't even do a push-up.

00:30:03.000 Right.

00:30:03.000 Yeah, and enter Tim Kennedy, to which you responded, I am your Huckleberry, for those who don't understand the Tombstone reference.

00:30:09.000 Well played, Tim.

00:30:10.000 Let it never be said that you are not a man filled to the brim with good film references.

00:30:17.000 So you've actually, you were serious about this because you've raised some money.

00:30:21.000 Glenn Beck put some money, and it's been matched, right?

00:30:23.000 So how much money is at play right now, and have you heard a response?

00:30:26.000 Yeah.

00:30:28.000 So Glenn Beck said he'd donate $50,000 to the charity of the winner.

00:30:32.000 And I said I would personally bet.

00:30:33.000 I can guess where that's going.

00:30:35.000 It's not like celebrity opponents where you're winning your task making paper mache diapers.

00:30:40.000 In a fist fight, I know where I'd place my bets.

00:30:43.000 Yeah.

00:30:43.000 And I said I would match it with my personal money that the winner of the fight would get a $50,000 donation from me to the winner of the choice.

00:30:52.000 Not exactly a roll of the dice though, let's be honest.

00:30:55.000 No.

00:30:56.000 You know, but the etymology reference from Tombstone actually goes all the way back to the medieval times where the knights, once a woman had been kind of accosted or offended, A guy would ride up to her and she would place a piece of huckleberry garland on his lance or his sword And effectively saying, I'm your hero.

00:31:17.000 I'm here to back you up.

00:31:19.000 Whoever offended you, I'm going to fight against you.

00:31:22.000 So it was appropriate for the scenario, but the renaissance man over here.

00:31:27.000 But I don't want to hear about you punching people.

00:31:29.000 I don't want to hear about your intellectual contributions, Tim.

00:31:32.000 Let's be honest, Steve.

00:31:34.000 He's not going to fight.

00:31:35.000 No, I know.

00:31:36.000 No.

00:31:37.000 So he's the embodiment.

00:31:38.000 He is the personification of everything that is wrong.

00:31:43.000 current impotent culture.

00:31:45.000 Yeah.

00:31:45.000 This culture where I'm going to yell, I'm going to bark, I'm going to say all this tough guy stuff, but I'm going to not, I'm not going to back it up with anything.

00:31:53.000 Right.

00:31:53.000 I'm going to be tough when there's 500 of us and we're smashing a window at a Starbucks.

00:31:57.000 Right.

00:31:58.000 But when it really comes down to the rubber meet in the road, yeah, there's not a man to be found.

00:32:02.000 No.

00:32:03.000 On that side of the argument.

00:32:05.000 Well, I wouldn't say on that.

00:32:06.000 I would say certainly people like this at Deadspin.

00:32:09.000 Let's be honest.

00:32:10.000 The Flat Whites have really taken a dive at Starbucks. 1.00

00:32:12.000 Yes, the Flat Whites have really taken a dive at Starbucks. 1.00

00:32:14.000 Careful.

00:32:15.000 Tim Kennedy, also a coffee snob, in case you didn't know.

00:32:17.000 He is in Austin.

00:32:19.000 You wouldn't expect it from him.

00:32:20.000 Also, he makes pottery with Patrick Swayze behind him.

00:32:23.000 The ghost of Patrick Swayze.

00:32:26.000 Hey, don't lie.

00:32:27.000 Don't lie.

00:32:28.000 I saw you on Ghost Hunters.

00:32:30.000 So, here's something. 1.00

00:32:32.000 People will say, oh, you're a hypocrite. 0.99

00:32:33.000 Because I challenged a guy who sucker punched me at that union rally to a fight. 0.99

00:32:36.000 And I'm like, oh, it's not the same thing.

00:32:38.000 A guy sucker punched me.

00:32:39.000 And I said, okay, same thing.

00:32:41.000 Charity of your choosing.

00:32:42.000 A sanctioned MMA bout.

00:32:44.000 And I was very careful to phrase it that way.

00:32:45.000 Basically, of course you get the better.

00:32:47.000 Someone could sucker punch you and it could be lights out.

00:32:50.000 Even though it wasn't lights out. 0.92

00:32:51.000 But...

00:32:53.000 I would never call out an entire ideology of people, for example, even liberals, because you know what?

00:32:57.000 I know if I say, no liberals can fight, I could get a phone call from Jeff Monson and I'm in trouble.

00:33:02.000 Yeah.

00:33:03.000 Jeff Monson's tough.

00:33:04.000 Yeah, Jeff Monson's a big dude.

00:33:06.000 Also, walking human pincushion, in case you didn't know.

00:33:09.000 I was aware.

00:33:10.000 Yes, it's very tough for me to compete with that.

00:33:13.000 So what kind of, I mean, I was trying to do research on this guy.

00:33:15.000 People will want, does he have some background?

00:33:18.000 Like, does he have an ace up his sleeve?

00:33:19.000 Does he train, maybe?

00:33:20.000 No.

00:33:24.000 No to all questions.

00:33:26.000 No, he doesn't do anything.

00:33:28.000 No, he's never done anything.

00:33:30.000 He might wear a flannel shirt and walk around like a tough guy.

00:33:34.000 Yeah.

00:33:35.000 Wait, is the flannel shirt the mark of a tough guy now?

00:33:38.000 Because I wasn't aware of that.

00:33:40.000 Yeah, like the millennial thing, like you walk down and these hipsters with their mustaches and their flannel shirts and their tight jeans drinking, you know, an $8 drink.

00:33:50.000 Pour over a cup of coffee.

00:33:52.000 Flat white.

00:33:52.000 We bring it back to, yeah, to Jared's flat white.

00:33:55.000 Flat white.

00:33:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:57.000 But they act like tough guys.

00:33:59.000 But they don't, like, they might as well carry an axe.

00:34:02.000 Well, you know what?

00:34:03.000 Chop the tree down. 0.64

00:34:04.000 Or fanny pack.

00:34:05.000 I never perceived it that way.

00:34:06.000 I always perceived them kind of doing the, on the runway, it's called lumberjack fat look.

00:34:10.000 That's what I thought.

00:34:12.000 I think they coined the term lumbersexual, which I guess I'm guilty of today.

00:34:17.000 Yeah, well, you have the Newsboys cap, so it sort of takes it away from you.

00:34:20.000 It's kind of a weird juxtaposition.

00:34:22.000 Now, wasn't there someone else, though, who did say he would fight this guy who's not a professional fighter and asked you if you would be in his corner?

00:34:27.000 So there have been several people who've stepped up to the plate, right?

00:34:30.000 Yeah, I think the most notable is Joey Jones, who's a double amputee. 1.00

00:34:37.000 And he's like, listen, you're being a jerk. 0.99

00:34:40.000 I will straight up hop in there and fight. 0.99

00:34:44.000 Joey Jones is a hero.

00:34:46.000 And I would put my money on Joey Jones and I would unquestionably step in that guy's corner.

00:34:51.000 Yeah.

00:34:52.000 Yeah.

00:34:52.000 And then there was another guy that was just some random dude that's like, listen, I'm not a professional fighter.

00:34:56.000 I'm not a Green Beret.

00:34:57.000 I'm not a Special Forces sniper.

00:34:58.000 I'm not a Ranger.

00:34:59.000 I'm not 220 pounds of muscle.

00:35:01.000 But I'll get in there and I'll give it my best whirl.

00:35:03.000 I think people are forgetting that because for so long we, the kind of conservatives, we've been turning our cheeks.

00:35:12.000 We have been kind.

00:35:14.000 We have been generous.

00:35:16.000 And people have mistaken that kindness for weakness.

00:35:19.000 Listen.

00:35:20.000 We're talking about the largest group of Second Amendment lovers.

00:35:23.000 We're talking about the guys that really do hard work, that have calloused hands, that are wearing freaking body armor that's sitting in a rental car talking to you on the phone.

00:35:33.000 These are the people that you're insulting.

00:35:34.000 So listen, we've been kind for too long.

00:35:37.000 I'm sick of turning my cheek.

00:35:38.000 If these internet tough guys keep talking smack to my friends or anything about, yes, I would love to have a rational, logical conversation, but all I'm not going to do is sit there and take it anymore.

00:35:49.000 Yeah, and that was a great speech until people realized that your rental car is a hybrid.

00:35:55.000 Lost a little bit of steam there.

00:35:58.000 Was it really?

00:35:58.000 No.

00:36:02.000 It is?

00:36:03.000 I don't know.

00:36:04.000 It's pretty common now.

00:36:05.000 Blake agrees it's a hybrid.

00:36:05.000 It's a hybrid.

00:36:07.000 He's going, oh. 0.99

00:36:09.000 And his balls shrank three sizes that day. 0.99

00:36:12.000 There's something. 0.99

00:36:13.000 You walk into a hybrid. 0.99

00:36:13.000 You're like, I'm Steven Seagal. 0.99

00:36:15.000 My nipples are lactating. 0.95

00:36:16.000 What happened? 0.98

00:36:18.000 It is.

00:36:19.000 That's a good analogy.

00:36:20.000 The mistake or meekness for weakness.

00:36:21.000 I didn't realize that that guy was an amputee who challenged him.

00:36:23.000 I did see one time that quadriplegic who fought MMA. You know what I'm talking about?

00:36:26.000 He just kind of nubbles onto his opponent.

00:36:27.000 What's his name?

00:36:29.000 I don't remember, but he was actually okay.

00:36:31.000 Yeah, well, he was because you can't kick it down the bone.

00:36:34.000 And so the guy would just go on up there.

00:36:35.000 I remember the guy looking at him, looking at the ref and just kind of didn't know what to do.

00:36:40.000 Didn't know how to handle it.

00:36:42.000 No, either way, it's like fighting a girl. 0.73

00:36:44.000 There's no winning.

00:36:44.000 It's like, I beat the quadriplegic.

00:36:46.000 Well, you're a jerk or you lost to a quadriplegic. 1.00

00:36:48.000 There's no good way to handle it. 1.00

00:36:49.000 That's why the Deadspin guy isn't answering.

00:36:51.000 So he's gone to complete radio silence.

00:36:53.000 Has he emailed you in private?

00:36:54.000 Like, hey, listen, man, you know, I'm sorry.

00:36:56.000 I went too far.

00:36:58.000 Or is it a total tuck tail and run for now?

00:37:02.000 Right now, I'm in the middle of nowhere at a shooting range.

00:37:06.000 That's true.

00:37:06.000 My email has been retweeted like 40,000 times.

00:37:11.000 Yes.

00:37:11.000 So I keep getting all of these awesome emails from...

00:37:18.000 Fellow barrel-tested freedom fighters.

00:37:20.000 We'll just call them that.

00:37:21.000 Who are like, listen, I got your back.

00:37:22.000 Whatever happens, I got your back.

00:37:23.000 And I was like, sweet, dude.

00:37:24.000 I love it.

00:37:25.000 So I can't get to any of those emails right now because I have maybe...

00:37:32.000 Yeah.

00:37:33.000 Well, that's incredible.

00:37:34.000 But do you feel that with your statement just now about barrel-chested that you've at all marginalized the suitcase-chested?

00:37:40.000 Because that's a common argument in the masculine community. 0.99

00:37:44.000 You are barrel-chested, though.

00:37:46.000 You're like a fireplug.

00:37:47.000 You're a pretty compact guy.

00:37:49.000 Yeah.

00:37:50.000 I'm going to...

00:37:51.000 I'm going to be a lot bigger the next time you see me.

00:37:54.000 You saw me right after my fight.

00:37:55.000 That's true.

00:37:56.000 I'm back to like 220.

00:37:57.000 I'm going to be like 240 by the end of summer.

00:37:59.000 But why do you want to do that?

00:38:00.000 Do you want to be like the kid in Hook where you can just fold up your legs and roll down the ship like a cannonball?

00:38:05.000 Biggerang! 1.00

00:38:07.000 I mean, just in case Jeff Monson Picks up one of my tweets.

00:38:12.000 I gotta be ready to go.

00:38:13.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:38:14.000 Yeah.

00:38:14.000 Well, you know, Jeff Monson is an interesting character.

00:38:16.000 Now we can get off into the weeds.

00:38:17.000 But for people who don't know, I think he was arrested for spray painting on either Capitol Steps or something.

00:38:21.000 He's an anarchist.

00:38:23.000 But then he calls himself an anarcho-socialist or anarcho-communist. 1.00

00:38:28.000 And people acted like I was stupid. 0.96

00:38:30.000 I was going, hold on, those two can't really be the same thing. 0.99

00:38:33.000 No, they don't.

00:38:34.000 They contradict each other.

00:38:35.000 Okay, so it's not just me then. 0.95

00:38:36.000 Jeff Monson's slightly retarded, even though he could beat me up. 1.00

00:38:39.000 Yeah. 0.91

00:38:41.000 Both of those concepts are completely on the opposite end and cannot coexist.

00:38:47.000 Alright, so let's assume that this guy does not pick up the red telephone to fight you.

00:38:52.000 What's next then for Tim Kennedy? 0.99

00:38:56.000 Well, in this little feud, I guess we just all acknowledge that all of these people that keep getting online and are tough guys in front of a computer, let me remind you that there's people like me That like to read those things and aren't going to take your shit. 0.99

00:39:14.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:39:15.000 What if he shows up to your gym, but he's got body armor on and he has friends.

00:39:25.000 I like this.

00:39:27.000 Well, I guess.

00:39:29.000 I forget that your gym would probably have a lot of your friends as well.

00:39:33.000 I don't think I need my friends for his friends.

00:39:36.000 Let's just be clear. 0.98

00:39:37.000 The first thing that would have to happen is that I would have to hide my erection. 0.97

00:39:43.000 Is that all of him and his friends would... 0.93

00:39:49.000 The only thing you would hear is the door locking behind them.

00:39:52.000 Yes!

00:39:54.000 That's it.

00:39:55.000 And then the house of pain starts.

00:39:57.000 Yes, exactly.

00:39:58.000 We'll hopefully have a DJ at your gym along with a videographer.

00:40:02.000 My dad always used that term.

00:40:03.000 Remember that, Jordan?

00:40:03.000 Dad would always say, hey, put him in a racquetball court, lock the door behind him, see who comes out?

00:40:08.000 Yeah.

00:40:08.000 And that was before the octagon existed.

00:40:10.000 Dad had a big mouth.

00:40:11.000 Yeah, a racquetball court.

00:40:13.000 Okay, but outside of that, Tim, I know people can find you on Twitter, but what about these courses and stuff that you have going on?

00:40:18.000 Let people know where they can find you.

00:40:20.000 I want to, like, walk around the corner so you can see what's going on right now.

00:40:23.000 I'll just open the window.

00:40:25.000 Okay.

00:40:25.000 Let's see what this is for people.

00:40:27.000 Well, right now we're just seeing the awful hybrid. 1.00

00:40:29.000 Hold on.

00:40:31.000 I've got to get out of the car.

00:40:32.000 I'm in body armor.

00:40:33.000 This is an easy thing to do.

00:40:34.000 Sounds so childish for a fighter.

00:40:37.000 Come on! 0.61

00:40:39.000 So, you can come to any sheep...

00:40:41.000 Well, Steve, you need to come to one of my sheepdog courses and go shooting with us.

00:40:44.000 I would love...

00:40:45.000 We should send Not Gage Air to that.

00:40:47.000 He's actually...

00:40:47.000 He's actually probably shoots more often than I do, but would still probably cower like a small girl.

00:40:53.000 I'm sure he'd be fine.

00:40:55.000 So, essentially what happens...

00:40:57.000 All right.

00:41:02.000 So, you're not wearing their protective ear gear, Tim.

00:41:05.000 I don't know how I feel about this.

00:41:06.000 Hey, Shane!

00:41:08.000 How you guys doing?

00:41:08.000 Hey, those guys waterboarded me too.

00:41:10.000 Yeah, he was.

00:41:11.000 Yeah, he was waterboarding too.

00:41:15.000 A family reunion.

00:41:16.000 How you doing?

00:41:17.000 Okay, so tell me real quick, we have to go to the sheepdog course.

00:41:20.000 What is it for people who are interested?

00:41:21.000 So right now, this is all law enforcement gear.

00:41:24.000 Okay.

00:41:26.000 It's loud.

00:41:27.000 Yeah, I know.

00:41:27.000 That's the gun part of it.

00:41:29.000 That's what guns are.

00:41:31.000 So it's essentially...

00:41:33.000 It's a few days of fighting, learning how to be the hardest person somebody ever tries to kill.

00:41:38.000 So we go over hand-to-hand combat, defensive tactics, self-defense, and then we go into shooting, knife fighting.

00:41:44.000 It's taught by the highest, most experienced Special Forces Navy SEAL badasses on the planet. 0.99

00:41:49.000 Yeah, so it's like a silent retreat, except you learn how to kick ass. 0.99

00:41:55.000 Yes, that's exactly what it is. 0.99

00:41:57.000 All right, Tim Kennedy, at Tim Kennedy MMA. Thank you so much for being with us.

00:42:00.000 And listen, we'll have to have you come back and update us if this guy takes you up on the offer.

00:42:05.000 I would love it!

00:42:06.000 I would love it.

00:42:06.000 I'm there.

00:42:07.000 All right, thank you, good sir.

00:42:08.000 That was Tim Kennedy.

00:42:09.000 And we'll be back after this.

00:42:11.000 I think we have Anne McElhinney coming on up. 0.99

00:42:13.000 Oh, she's Irish. 0.99

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00:43:24.000 All right, Jared, mute the mic of our guest here.

00:43:27.000 She is muted.

00:43:28.000 Glad to be back.

00:43:28.000 I can't believe she's got some nerve.

00:43:30.000 How many times do you hear me do live reads?

00:43:31.000 Once a week, that's when you hear me do live reads.

00:43:33.000 And, of course, we're talking about the Mug Club this week. 0.72

00:43:35.000 Thanks so much for everyone who signed up.

00:43:37.000 If waterboarding wasn't enough, we went undercover to the Women's March dressed as women, so we were publicly humiliated for you. 0.75

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00:44:00.000 You shouldn't be an active veteran.

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00:44:45.000 Oh, gosh.

00:44:45.000 I don't know if you know this.

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00:44:51.000 My gynecologist told me so.

00:44:53.000 Let's go on.

00:44:54.000 This is going well.

00:44:59.000 It's better to have loved and lost than ever to have loved at all.

00:45:05.000 Come cheer up my nights, come cheer up my nights.

00:45:10.000 It's better to have loved and lost.

00:45:13.000 It's better to have loved and lost.

00:45:17.000 Captain John Rookhaw than ever to have loved at all.

00:45:21.000 The Federation Starship, come cheer up my nights, come cheer up my nights.

00:45:26.000 It's better to have loved and lost.

00:45:29.000 All right, we need to work on our audio hand signals.

00:45:32.000 We are going to your live tweets before we bring on our next guest.

00:45:36.000 Jordan, what are the results from the poll earlier?

00:45:38.000 The poll, do you want me to read the question you asked?

00:45:42.000 Yes, let's read the question and give us the results.

00:45:44.000 Okay, it's, has Donald Trump brought us closer to doomsday?

00:45:47.000 Reading the results late on.

00:45:49.000 Okay.

00:45:49.000 Later on, I should say.

00:45:51.000 Oh, I misspelled it.

00:45:52.000 Gosh, well, thanks for being a brother there, Jordan.

00:45:56.000 Drawing all the attention to that.

00:45:58.000 I honestly hadn't read it until...

00:46:00.000 Also, Steven, you wet your pants until you were four.

00:46:04.000 All right, continue. 0.99

00:46:05.000 8% said yes, 40% said no, 34% said CBS sucks, and 18% said we're all going to die! 0.90

00:46:15.000 Well, thank you for the... 0.93

00:46:16.000 I appreciate that you put more enthusiasm into that than actually assisting your brother in covering up his fluss.

00:46:22.000 We have to stop skewing those polls.

00:46:24.000 Seems like those additional options could be skewing those polls.

00:46:28.000 Some great tweets, some great images, but you can bring this up.

00:46:31.000 Michael Ian Black decided to tweet me while we were on here.

00:46:34.000 A couple million followers.

00:46:35.000 Seems like he's gone off the deep end.

00:46:37.000 Is he a UCB guy?

00:46:37.000 What is he?

00:46:39.000 I think so.

00:46:40.000 I don't know which...

00:46:42.000 He's one of those improv schools.

00:46:43.000 He's been on Comedy Central quite a bit.

00:46:45.000 He's actually...

00:46:46.000 His stuff is actually very funny.

00:46:48.000 I've always thought so.

00:46:49.000 A lot of the stuff I've watched him in.

00:46:51.000 He has been funny.

00:46:52.000 But he's gone a little off the deep end on Twitter this election season.

00:46:56.000 What's odd is he took an old video from like nine months ago.

00:47:00.000 No, this was years ago.

00:47:01.000 The Lane and Dunham rape culture, Jared.

00:47:03.000 And all he tweeted back...

00:47:04.000 Sorry, this is a very leftist thing. 0.98

00:47:05.000 Holy s***. 0.98

00:47:07.000 Period. 0.98

00:47:08.000 Nothing else.

00:47:09.000 That's an argument.

00:47:10.000 So I offered him to come on to the show to air his grievances, and he responded to me like 19 times.

00:47:17.000 And it's remarkable how a guy for 2 million followers gets no retweets or likes.

00:47:21.000 It really is weird.

00:47:23.000 It says, I appreciate the offer, but we feel slightly ridiculous debating rape culture with another dude.

00:47:26.000 There are many victims who would be far better to speak than myself.

00:47:30.000 In fact, probably every single adult woman I know could share with you.

00:47:33.000 So I offered him to speak with one of our head writers, Michael Ian Black, Courtney Skoss, Courtney Kirchhoff, or Casey.

00:47:38.000 And of course, he declined.

00:47:40.000 What else did he write here?

00:47:43.000 Again, I would encourage them to speak with victims of sexual abuse because I'm not one.

00:47:47.000 I don't feel qualified to speak on their behalf, but I believe their stories.

00:47:50.000 I've heard so many.

00:47:51.000 So listen, Michael Ian Black.

00:47:53.000 Um... 1.00

00:47:55.000 Closed-minded, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1.00

00:47:59.000 You want to come on here and just tweet out some blanket holy sh**. 1.00

00:48:03.000 So this is what we're talking about with the left, right? 0.99

00:48:04.000 Where you say, hey, rape culture's not true. 1.00

00:48:06.000 So instead of saying, well, no, I believe it's true, here's some statistics, right? 0.99

00:48:09.000 The left goes, holy sh**, can you believe this guy? 0.99

00:48:13.000 Well, yeah! 0.99

00:48:14.000 Yeah, we can! 0.95

00:48:16.000 Hey, Islam tends to create more violent cultures than Christianity in the modern world. 1.00

00:48:21.000 Can you believe he said that? 0.96

00:48:23.000 Yes.

00:48:24.000 Yes. 0.99

00:48:24.000 The Women's March was, by and large, a farce with all the pussy hats and Ashley... 0.99

00:48:29.000 Can you believe he says about the Women's March?! 0.93

00:48:33.000 This is what they do.

00:48:33.000 It's like, well, present an argument.

00:48:35.000 You've been invited onto the show.

00:48:36.000 You try to take a parting shot, Michael Ian Black.

00:48:39.000 You've got more Twitter followers than I do.

00:48:41.000 You have the support of Viacom, Comedy Central, these networks.

00:48:43.000 You've been in some films.

00:48:44.000 I know, right?

00:48:45.000 We're just some kids with a podcast, you know, that started out in a den.

00:48:50.000 So listen, man, prove me wrong.

00:48:52.000 Prove one of my writers wrong.

00:48:53.000 And by the way, how do you not know that Courtney or Casey or maybe one of our wives or sisters or mothers experienced sexual assault? 0.93

00:49:03.000 But again, none of that would matter, Michael, if you had this testicular fortitude just to show up.

00:49:09.000 Just to enter the arena, brother.

00:49:11.000 Just show up.

00:49:12.000 Swing the bat once.

00:49:14.000 I don't even care if it's a foul ball.

00:49:15.000 We don't care.

00:49:16.000 Just show up. 0.99

00:49:17.000 Just don't take parting shots like a coward.

00:49:19.000 And I think that once you start doing that, you'll regain the respect of your following, who don't seem overly eager to tweet you.

00:49:26.000 There's too many sports reference, though, for a guy like Michael Ian Black.

00:49:29.000 You've got to speak his language.

00:49:30.000 He's probably more of a jock than I am.

00:49:32.000 I always find it remarkable.

00:49:34.000 What did he say here?

00:49:35.000 That was my point.

00:49:36.000 I can't speak from personal experience, and I don't want to speak on anyone's behalf.

00:49:40.000 Well, you spoke on behalf of the offended social justice warriors, Michael Ian Black.

00:49:43.000 That's why you left that comment.

00:49:45.000 So, listen, I think you're funny.

00:49:47.000 I think you're a talented guy.

00:49:48.000 I think you're bright enough that we could have a discussion.

00:49:50.000 It could be productive.

00:49:51.000 But these ideas can never actually be discussed if you don't show up.

00:49:56.000 And hey, isn't it great, Michael Ian Black, that you live in a town and work in an industry where no one expects you to?

00:50:03.000 That's the miracle of soft expectations. 1.00

00:50:05.000 They expect you to be a butter-soft little bitch, and you continue to be. 1.00

00:50:09.000 And by God, you are right on par with exactly what they want from you. 0.99

00:50:13.000 All right, we have a guest to come up.

00:50:15.000 Who seems eager.

00:50:16.000 She's chomping at the bit. 1.00

00:50:17.000 I always love her because she comes out with her voice.

00:50:20.000 Can make any day a happy day.

00:50:21.000 I think for her she's celebrating.

00:50:22.000 Before she comes on, I have to give her a plug. 1.00

00:50:24.000 Gosnellbook.com.

00:50:25.000 You know they did Gosnell Movie before.

00:50:28.000 She talked about that.

00:50:29.000 Dean Cain was in it.

00:50:30.000 And I know they ran into some hiccups speaking of the entertainment industry.

00:50:32.000 They're not super keen on the abortion films.

00:50:36.000 Gosnellbook.com.

00:50:37.000 Anne McElhinney, you said you were celebrating today.

00:50:39.000 You went to the White House.

00:50:40.000 Fill us in.

00:50:42.000 It's great to see you, Stephen.

00:50:45.000 I just want to do...

00:50:46.000 I can't not mention the fact that Stephanie is a new favourite person of mine.

00:50:54.000 Stephanie needs her own show. 1.00

00:50:56.000 I think we need a reality show with Stephanie. 1.00

00:50:59.000 I want to know everything about Stephanie.

00:51:01.000 I want to be...

00:51:03.000 I want to be watching Stephanie, you know, just mornings with Stephanie, afternoons with Stephanie, evenings with Stephanie.

00:51:11.000 So I'm just going to put that right out there.

00:51:12.000 Pretty much all times of day with Stephanie.

00:51:15.000 We could do an answer to the view. 1.00

00:51:16.000 You and Stephanie could sit around a round table, drink too much coffee, and say stupid things. 1.00

00:51:20.000 I think this is a whole future for us, Steve. 1.00

00:51:23.000 I think we have something to talk about here.

00:51:25.000 And I know that you're the agent for Stephanie, so if you could talk to her, whatever, yeah?

00:51:29.000 I'll have her people talk.

00:51:30.000 Yes, I am celebrating.

00:51:32.000 I am celebrating.

00:51:33.000 I, in fact, even have brought a glass of wine to prove to you that I'm celebrating.

00:51:39.000 Because, you know, a lot of people are tweeting and saying that they're tired of winning.

00:51:44.000 I'm not tired of winning.

00:51:45.000 I'm just liking winning.

00:51:46.000 Our book was published on Tuesday.

00:51:53.000 And on Tuesday, the book went to number three in the bestsellers on Amazon series.

00:51:59.000 Not in any category.

00:52:01.000 In all the categories.

00:52:03.000 And it slipped a little bit this week and it went back to number three today.

00:52:10.000 I was on the Rush Limbaugh show today.

00:52:12.000 I was on O'Reilly on Tuesday.

00:52:15.000 But here's the thing that happened then that paled all of that into insignificance in a way and just made everything just kind of crazy and amazing and providential.

00:52:26.000 I got an invitation to the White House today.

00:52:29.000 From Mr.

00:52:30.000 Donald Trump or was it from his...

00:52:31.000 I have just come back from the White House where I have met Vice President Pence and his beautiful wife and I have met Kellyanne Conway Who is, you know, let's talk about women.

00:52:46.000 Let's get into this whole women thing. 0.99

00:52:48.000 I know.

00:52:48.000 You know, and let's celebrate women.

00:52:50.000 Well, you missed our...

00:52:51.000 We were talking about this earlier where people, they talk about how it's our time to stand up to Donald Trump as journalists and HuffPo trotted out some old...

00:52:58.000 It was like a charity thing where Kellyanne Conway in the early 90s was doing stand-up, which granted was really bad, but she's not a stand-up comedian.

00:53:04.000 And to me, it's gotten to the point where they want to pat themselves on the back for being brave journalists, but they will go after...

00:53:04.000 It was for charity.

00:53:10.000 People who have at any point worked for Trump for the most trivial kind of crap. 0.97

00:53:15.000 And of course, if anyone on the right did it, it would be considered wildly sexist. 0.94

00:53:19.000 But Mike Pence, I imagine that he would have a firm handshake.

00:53:23.000 So we're in the room.

00:53:26.000 First of all, we go through the whole security thing.

00:53:30.000 I think it'll take me a while to get over the fact of what just happened to me.

00:53:38.000 I'm an immigrant.

00:53:40.000 I'm one of those immigrants.

00:53:41.000 I'm one of those legal immigrants.

00:53:43.000 So grateful to be here.

00:53:45.000 And every time I renew my visa, I can tell you, I don't mind the hassle because I'm grateful that I'm allowed to be here.

00:53:52.000 I haven't done the green card because it's very laborious and I'm really, really busy.

00:53:58.000 But I am not worried about spending money and spending time on getting a visa because I'm really grateful to be here.

00:54:04.000 And we go to the...

00:54:05.000 I was in the White House today.

00:54:07.000 I was there today.

00:54:08.000 I met the vice president.

00:54:13.000 I met his wife.

00:54:14.000 I met Kellyanne.

00:54:16.000 And I'm like...

00:54:17.000 Here's the really...

00:54:18.000 I mean, amazing.

00:54:19.000 I meet Kellyanne.

00:54:20.000 Phelan and I meet Kellyanne.

00:54:21.000 And we're just so...

00:54:23.000 Like, you know, your listeners know this.

00:54:26.000 It's like, my God, I'm standing in front of Kellyanne, and I'm like, with Kellyanne, and Phelan said, Phelan kind of got all kind of mumbly-mumbly and kind of like we were meeting a rock star, which we were meeting a rock star.

00:54:37.000 And so Phelan says, you know, we're the people who did, you know, we're doing the Gosnell film.

00:54:42.000 And she went, I know exactly who you are.

00:54:45.000 She said, I know exactly who you are.

00:54:47.000 And by the way, Gosnell isn't everything that you did.

00:54:49.000 You did Frack Nation. 1.00

00:54:50.000 You did all these other films.

00:54:52.000 And we're like going, I'm on your database.

00:54:54.000 I get your letters.

00:54:56.000 I'm going, oh my god!

00:54:58.000 That's what happened today.

00:55:00.000 And then we meet Vice President.

00:55:02.000 I hope you didn't react this way.

00:55:03.000 It's less than professional.

00:55:05.000 It's unbecoming of a professional filmmaker.

00:55:07.000 I was really good.

00:55:08.000 I was good, Stephen.

00:55:09.000 I'm only saving my bad for you.

00:55:12.000 I do my bad with you.

00:55:14.000 So I was really good and I was dignified.

00:55:16.000 But maybe I was a little awestruck and I was And when I met the vice president, I mean, I met the vice president, listen to me here, I'm saying those words, not even kind of, you know what I mean, owning them, but I met the vice president, and by the way, people can go to the Facebook page and see the photographs.

00:55:34.000 That's where period and time matters, because if you were saying this four years ago, it would have been, I was fondled by the vice president, so you're better off now.

00:55:41.000 My granddaughter went missing around the vice president's office.

00:55:46.000 I met the wonderful vice president.

00:55:47.000 I met the wonderful vice president's wife, who are so...

00:55:51.000 They are people, and I know, you know, we're having some fun and we want to have a lot of fun here, but they are people of faith.

00:55:58.000 And he spoke...

00:55:59.000 It was...

00:56:00.000 I felt part of history tonight when he spoke about what he...

00:56:06.000 Why he was there and why this was important.

00:56:10.000 And he was there with his wife, who had dedicated themselves And tomorrow is the March for Life.

00:56:16.000 And they had dedicated themselves so, so, so many years ago that their mission in life was for life.

00:56:24.000 And he quoted the Bible.

00:56:27.000 He talked about prayer.

00:56:29.000 He talked about the importance of prayer.

00:56:31.000 Yeah.

00:56:31.000 And, you know, you were there in this room tonight with him and thought, Now, this is what greatness looks like.

00:56:43.000 This is what this looks like.

00:56:44.000 These are people of grace and people, providential people, who just, we're really lucky.

00:56:52.000 And I'm celebrating.

00:56:54.000 I'm having a glass of wine.

00:56:55.000 I think viewers would enjoy that.

00:56:57.000 He's got one hell of a jawline.

00:56:58.000 But okay, Anne, we don't have too much time.

00:56:59.000 So I do want to get to this.

00:57:00.000 They invited you because of the Gosnell book.

00:57:02.000 Now, what's interesting to me, too, with the film before the book, you know, I've known you and Philim for...

00:57:06.000 Well, I guess back since Andrew introduced us, so 2009-ish.

00:57:09.000 That's right.

00:57:10.000 And you were not pro-life activists at all.

00:57:12.000 You looked into us because you were journalists, real journalists.

00:57:15.000 We had a taco.

00:57:16.000 We had a seafood taco together in where?

00:57:19.000 Manhattan Beach, right?

00:57:20.000 Manhattan Beach at Oahu's, yes.

00:57:21.000 Yeah.

00:57:22.000 And I remember you were saying, well, we're going to move to Los Angeles.

00:57:24.000 And Philem said, oh, Los Angeles.

00:57:26.000 I said, okay, Philem, I'm going to go with her.

00:57:27.000 I'm going to listen to her.

00:57:28.000 Nothing personal.

00:57:30.000 Anywhere we can move would be better than here in Manhattan Beach.

00:57:33.000 It's so beautiful.

00:57:34.000 And I said, I know, but there are plenty of nice places.

00:57:37.000 I know the tacos are good.

00:57:38.000 I remember...

00:57:39.000 God, my God, you've got a great memory.

00:57:40.000 I've had too many glasses of wine to have the cleanest memory of that.

00:57:43.000 But I do remember us meeting.

00:57:45.000 I remember it really well.

00:57:47.000 I remember liking you from the get-go.

00:57:49.000 And I love the relationship we have.

00:57:51.000 And...

00:57:52.000 Here's the thing about the book, and here's the thing about people buying the book, and I'm going to show it in a kind of flagrant way.

00:57:58.000 Let me just preface for people who don't know.

00:57:58.000 Hold on one second.

00:58:00.000 We can't get through everything because we've talked about this.

00:58:02.000 Go back through our archive shows.

00:58:03.000 Gosnell was a horrific serial killing abortionist is the only way I can describe it to actually understand the horror that is abortion and certainly how it ties into the modern regressive left.

00:58:15.000 You really need to look into the stories of Gosnell.

00:58:17.000 Anne and Philemon have written about it, and I have yet to read the book.

00:58:20.000 I should be getting it this week.

00:58:22.000 I'm really looking forward to it.

00:58:24.000 So that sets the stage because a lot of people don't know yet.

00:58:26.000 And that's the reason for this book.

00:58:28.000 Yeah.

00:58:28.000 And the book, I mean, we're getting a lot of very, very good feedback.

00:58:32.000 It's the number three bestseller in the United States of America right now on Amazon.

00:58:38.000 And it's, you know, there's three things.

00:58:42.000 There's three things the book does.

00:58:43.000 The book tells the personal stories of these children, of the children who died, and particularly baby Boye, who shares a birthday with my own father.

00:58:52.000 The 12th of July, 2008, obviously, but 12th of July is my father's birthday.

00:59:00.000 And this is a child who lived and died on the same day But his life mattered and his life is significant.

00:59:07.000 And his life will matter a great deal more the more people read the story and the more people watch the movie, the more this story gets out.

00:59:16.000 He's the center of the movie.

00:59:18.000 He is the center of the movie, Baby Boy A, who lived, who Gosnell joked about, who Gosnell...

00:59:24.000 He's the baby that Gosnell said, this baby's big enough to walk me to the bus stop.

00:59:27.000 He's the baby also, though, that Adrian Moten took a photograph of.

00:59:31.000 And we write about this in the book.

00:59:33.000 Adrienne Moten took a photograph of baby boy A and I've interviewed her and she said that when they came to arrest her, when the cops came to arrest her, she was relieved.

00:59:45.000 That's what she said.

00:59:45.000 Wow.

00:59:46.000 And then she said to them, I'm going to give you this phone.

00:59:49.000 And she had an old phone.

00:59:50.000 And you know the way you guys, people, your listeners and know this stuff and people watching tonight, they know this stuff that, you know, you have a phone, like an old phone, and then you throw that phone out and you get a new phone, you know, like whatever.

01:00:02.000 She kept the phone.

01:00:04.000 She kept that old phone.

01:00:06.000 And when the cops turned up, she had the phone and she said to them, you need to take the phone.

01:00:12.000 There's a photograph there that...

01:00:15.000 That's important.

01:00:16.000 And she said, and finally, I'm free.

01:00:22.000 I'm free.

01:00:23.000 That's what she said about Baby Boy.

01:00:25.000 And the photograph of Baby Boy, people can look it up online.

01:00:28.000 Baby Boy Gosnell, if you put that in, you'll see the photograph.

01:00:31.000 It's not for everyone to watch that.

01:00:33.000 It's not for everyone to see that.

01:00:35.000 And I speak to pro-life audiences across the country.

01:00:38.000 And I always now, you know, I've learned I used to be I'm pro-choice.

01:00:42.000 I was that person not that long ago.

01:00:45.000 And so now I go to these groups who ask me to speak, and I always say to them, I'm not going to show you any photographs.

01:00:51.000 And people applaud.

01:00:53.000 People applaud me when I say that.

01:00:55.000 And so I'm very conscious of people not wanting to see photographs, and I'm not going to be forcing people to see photographs.

01:01:01.000 But Baby Boy A mattered.

01:01:04.000 And at the end of the book, we have a whole section about The 47 bodies of the babies that were found on the premises have been buried now.

01:01:11.000 And a lot of Christian folk and good folk came along, and not just Christian folk, I would say just good folk, maybe not necessarily religious, came along and wanted those children to be buried and to have people memorialize them and people know them and do something to remember that they were remembered, that they are remembered.

01:01:34.000 And At the end of the book, we have a load of quotations from the people who went to that memorial service.

01:01:39.000 And there will be a permanent memorial there.

01:01:42.000 And I'm really happy about that.

01:01:43.000 I hope that memorial is made before they make a memorial to Michael Brown, which they say they're going to do.

01:01:48.000 And the people who went there spoke really beautifully.

01:01:52.000 And those words were in the back of the book.

01:01:53.000 And they said, you were not forgotten.

01:01:57.000 You were not unwanted.

01:02:01.000 We wanted you and we came together.

01:02:03.000 For you with love.

01:02:05.000 And your lives matter.

01:02:07.000 And I would challenge anyone to have a dry eye reading the actual words of the people who spoke at that beautiful ceremony that happened.

01:02:16.000 And this is an amazing book.

01:02:19.000 And I actually encourage people to buy it.

01:02:21.000 And I think, I say to people, you know, people think, a lot of people listening tonight probably, Stephen, are thinking to themselves, I can't read that.

01:02:28.000 I can't read that.

01:02:29.000 You know what?

01:02:30.000 You can.

01:02:31.000 And you know what?

01:02:32.000 It's a...

01:02:33.000 It's a privilege to be a witness to life.

01:02:38.000 And it's a privilege to be a witness to everything.

01:02:41.000 I'm privileged to be a journalist who got to tell this story.

01:02:44.000 I'm not sorry for myself.

01:02:45.000 People have written beautiful things to me and said, we're praying for you.

01:02:49.000 We know you're suffering.

01:02:50.000 And I have suffered.

01:02:51.000 I have.

01:02:52.000 I've cried.

01:02:52.000 And I never prayed for many, many years until I read the testimony of Steve Massoff, which is in the book, Yes.

01:03:07.000 testimony actually is what created, you know, yours.

01:03:09.000 That's an unbelievable story to tell.

01:03:11.000 And it is, it's, I will say this, this is, we were talking about this a week, we don't have too much time and I'll give you the last word, but I think a line in the sand, you We were talking about this when we were at the Women's March and we were there and it was really just a scene of just depravity.

01:03:25.000 And I was going, these people, the Dan Savages of the world, the Michael Ian Blacks of the world, they went out there and they mocked Rick Santorum and his family.

01:03:32.000 They had a stillborn and they brought it home a long time ago and they brought it to the family.

01:03:38.000 So they brought it to their family and they brought it to say, hey, listen, this is your baby.

01:03:43.000 It was a brother or sister.

01:03:44.000 I don't want to get that wrong.

01:03:45.000 This is your baby brother.

01:03:46.000 This is your baby sister.

01:03:46.000 They wanted their kids to understand that it was life.

01:03:48.000 And they buried it.

01:03:50.000 And the left said, hey, isn't that weird? 1.00

01:03:52.000 While they're taking bong hits, showing their tits, wearing a pussy hat at the women's march. 1.00

01:03:58.000 And I'm going, hold on a second. 1.00

01:03:59.000 The people who want men... 0.95

01:04:01.000 To go into women's rooms. 1.00

01:04:03.000 They say that it's considered hate speech for a vagina to be a requirement to be a woman. 1.00

01:04:08.000 All of this stuff that was being spoken about at the Women's March. 0.94

01:04:12.000 And to them, the weird thing is somebody having a stillborn child and considering it a life.

01:04:18.000 And if that doesn't show you the difference between good and evil today, if that doesn't show you between who really is the political party of depravity and hopelessness and a party of life, I'm not talking about just politicization in the news, but life versus darkness, I really do think there's a line in the sand there.

01:04:34.000 And that's as close as I get to On My Soapbox.

01:04:36.000 I hope people read the book, GosnellBook.com.

01:04:39.000 Go ahead.

01:04:40.000 And I gave a book to Vice President Pence this evening, and I wrote on it.

01:04:46.000 And if you've got just a second for me to tell you that.

01:04:48.000 I wrote in the dedication to the vice president.

01:04:51.000 I said to Vice President Pence, silence in the face of evil is evil.

01:04:58.000 level.

01:04:59.000 Not to speak is to speak.

01:05:03.000 Not to act is to act.

01:05:05.000 Thank you for speaking.

01:05:08.000 Thank you for acting.

01:05:11.000 You are an inspiration, sir.

01:05:14.000 And we signed it.

01:05:16.000 And I do think you...

01:05:19.000 I mean, I cannot tell you how significant it was to me To be in that room with him, for him to be so warm and kind to us, and Kellyanne, and to recognize the book and to recognize what we're trying to do here.

01:05:32.000 This story is shocking.

01:05:34.000 I mean, we could talk forever, Stephen, and you know that, and I know you're trying to wrap up.

01:05:39.000 But your law, the law in the United States of America, the only place really that has the laws like you have is North Korea. 0.85

01:05:47.000 And if you want to be like North Korea, you know, that's not the America I think an awful lot of people want to live in. 0.97

01:05:53.000 And I even mean progressives.

01:05:55.000 If they want to be compared to North Korea, that you can have an abortion at nine months. 0.87

01:05:59.000 You know, that's the law here.

01:06:00.000 That's the law here.

01:06:01.000 And that's the strength of this book, because it reminds people of what this is really about.

01:06:06.000 And it puts a face on these children.

01:06:08.000 Yeah, and it's important to realize, to take that face, to think of it, and then think of Wendy Davis and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and those people who went from safe, legal, and rare, which I still would say morally is an argument, still wrong, to...

01:06:20.000 Abortion, taxpayer-funded, on-demand, no questions asked, period.

01:06:25.000 And people need to understand, that's the main platform of the Democratic Party right now.

01:06:29.000 That's not some social justice fringe.

01:06:31.000 That is Wendy Davis, to roaring applause.

01:06:34.000 Anyone out there, read the book, gosnellbook.com, and then read the platform.

01:06:40.000 Of the Wendy Davises of the world. 0.84

01:06:41.000 Please do.

01:06:43.000 And then, listen, you can come to us, tweet me, tweet Anne McElhinney, and let them know your opinions.

01:06:47.000 Anne McElhinney, GosnellBook.com.

01:06:49.000 Thank you so much.

01:06:50.000 Go back to the wine.

01:06:51.000 Be a happy drunk, love!

01:06:52.000 We love you so much, Stephen.

01:06:55.000 It's obscene.

01:06:57.000 Well, thank you so much.

01:06:58.000 We love you.

01:06:58.000 We all talk about how much we love you here, too, but we have to slam dunk you here.

01:07:01.000 Anne McElhinney, thank you so much for being here, and hang up on her.

01:07:05.000 You're going to make it awkward now if you don't hang up on her, because then it makes me seem meaner than I am.

01:07:10.000 Thank you so much to Anne McElhinney, and maybe we'll have Phelim on one time when he gets coached on Speaking American.

01:07:17.000 We are going to be back to wrap this show up in a nice ribbon for you.

01:07:21.000 Final segment, the last segment of the week.

01:07:23.000 Stay tuned.

01:07:24.000 Chin Con.

01:07:26.000 Oh, powerful.

01:07:27.000 And a bit of cost so done.

01:07:30.000 Looks like Timmy's in for a checkup because he's feeling sluggish.

01:07:41.000 Oh, Timmy, just as the doctor suspected, you have IEDS, Informative Entertainment Deficiency Syndrome.

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01:08:04.000 Don't be a bitch. 1.00

01:08:49.000 We legitimately hold our breath for that entire segment. 1.00

01:08:51.000 We do.

01:08:51.000 There's no reason to.

01:08:52.000 No one would know.

01:08:53.000 Because we wait for this last segment.

01:08:54.000 Holding my breath.

01:08:55.000 Every week.

01:08:55.000 Speaking of what's starting next week, it's not the last segment because Not Gay Jared and Courtney Scoffs have a show starting.

01:09:01.000 I don't know what that looks like, so I'm very nervous.

01:09:03.000 And we have a bunch of guests next week.

01:09:04.000 We have...

01:09:05.000 What's his name?

01:09:06.000 Sean...

01:09:06.000 Gosh.

01:09:08.000 Merriman.

01:09:08.000 Sean Merriman.

01:09:09.000 I believe Bo Derek.

01:09:11.000 I don't know.

01:09:12.000 I believe a whole bunch.

01:09:12.000 And we have something.

01:09:13.000 I will tell you this.

01:09:14.000 We have to be careful.

01:09:15.000 We may have a shorter show next Wednesday because we'll be reporting on location on Thursday in a way that we have never done before.

01:09:24.000 It's a big risk.

01:09:25.000 But I think you'll want to tune in.

01:09:27.000 And it's not a fake tease.

01:09:29.000 You know, if we say something like this, it means that we're all going on the road.

01:09:33.000 We will be putting in quite a bit of effort.

01:09:34.000 So next week could be a little bit of a screwy schedule.

01:09:37.000 We appreciate you working with us.

01:09:38.000 We are not taking time off.

01:09:40.000 We will be en route.

01:09:42.000 Thank you so much to Tim Kennedy and McElhinney.

01:09:45.000 And here's something that I do think is an important takeaway.

01:09:48.000 We were talking about this this week.

01:09:50.000 All throughout the week.

01:09:51.000 It's actually kind of amazing.

01:09:53.000 I've always tried to be relatively fair.

01:09:55.000 I'm biased.

01:09:56.000 But my rules are be open about my biases, be open about where my point of view lines up, and more importantly, never attack someone without offering them recourse.

01:10:06.000 Never attack someone to take a parting shot.

01:10:08.000 So I... I'm not saying that I'm bipartisan or a journalist.

01:10:12.000 I'm not.

01:10:13.000 Okay, please understand that and please don't use me as your main news source.

01:10:16.000 I never want to be like John Stewart.

01:10:17.000 I want you reading from everywhere.

01:10:19.000 As a matter of fact, I prefer you reading from the leftist sources.

01:10:21.000 Half the stories we run come from Salon or Daily Kos or Huffington Post because I think it's important to be informed on the other side.

01:10:27.000 So, that being said, I like to think that we're relatively fair on this show, even though we're biased.

01:10:33.000 Um...

01:10:34.000 And I've always had to say, I think there are people who are obviously, and I still believe this, who are wrong on the left, but aren't bad people.

01:10:39.000 But I will say, this isn't necessarily emblematic of the left as a whole, or people who pull the lever for Democrats as a whole.

01:10:46.000 But the regressive left, as Dave Rubin puts it, the modern Democratic Party and their complicit media, we have reached the point, and again, I'm not throwing all liberals in this category, but we have reached a point where the media and the DNC are borderline compulsive liars.

01:11:03.000 If you see it this week.

01:11:05.000 And you know how you see it when somebody continually repeats something?

01:11:09.000 They vehemently repeat it.

01:11:11.000 It's almost always a lie.

01:11:13.000 And that's how you know.

01:11:15.000 When they continually say, feminists are the majority. 1.00

01:11:18.000 We talked about that, right?

01:11:18.000 Feminists are the majority.

01:11:19.000 Feminists are not even close. 1.00

01:11:21.000 Women are the majority of the United States of America, and feminists make up about a fifth of women. 1.00

01:11:26.000 So take half the country, take a fifth of that.

01:11:29.000 The math is about a tenth.

01:11:31.000 This was everywhere.

01:11:32.000 The media reported it because they try and draw this correlation.

01:11:34.000 Well, the march was the biggest march in modern American history.

01:11:37.000 That's about 2.5 million people out of a country of 300, 350 million people.

01:11:42.000 Out of 164 million women.

01:11:44.000 Therefore, since this is the biggest march, feminists are the majority. 1.00

01:11:48.000 Most women can't stand them. 1.00

01:11:49.000 It's not the biggest march.

01:11:51.000 It's not even the biggest civil rights movement.

01:11:54.000 It's certainly not the most effective political movement.

01:11:55.000 Remember, they tried to do that with the Occupy Wall Streeters?

01:11:57.000 Saying this is a real first grassroots movement.

01:12:00.000 Well, what about the Tea Party?

01:12:01.000 Now look at what happened.

01:12:02.000 The Tea Party, they primaried incumbents.

01:12:05.000 They brought in new politicians.

01:12:06.000 They took over the House and Senate.

01:12:08.000 Where's Occupy Wall Street?

01:12:09.000 There might be one guy still dropping deuces in Zanotti Park.

01:12:13.000 That's about it.

01:12:14.000 They're nowhere to be found. 0.98

01:12:15.000 It's going to be the same with the vagina hats. 1.00

01:12:18.000 You hear this week where we need to be brave. 0.98

01:12:20.000 We need to stand up.

01:12:21.000 You know what, reporters, it's time we start standing up to Donald Trump.

01:12:23.000 People are afraid.

01:12:24.000 Hey, respect to my fellow journalists who are brave.

01:12:26.000 You are brave.

01:12:27.000 You are brave.

01:12:28.000 I am brave.

01:12:28.000 You are brave.

01:12:29.000 They're all cowards. 0.99

01:12:30.000 It's a consistent lie. 0.99

01:12:33.000 They pat themselves on the back because they know that if they position themselves as the party of opposition, as the underdog, which they're not, here's what's important to note.

01:12:41.000 This is not the same kind of presidency as Barack Obama.

01:12:44.000 And we were worried about this somewhat because, you know, a lot of historically, Republicans, conservatives have gotten complacent under a Republican president.

01:12:51.000 And we said, well, you know, with this election, when it looked like Hillary was going to win or it looked, you know, like there was a decent chance.

01:12:58.000 We said, well, at least, you know, we'll be fighting against Hillary. 0.98

01:13:02.000 I And we know that we can be the voice of opposition.

01:13:04.000 We can help with that.

01:13:05.000 And we thought that if Donald Trump won, people would kind of take some time off, which tends to happen a lot.

01:13:10.000 But that's not the case.

01:13:12.000 And you know why it's so remarkable?

01:13:13.000 This is the big difference between Barack Obama was the man.

01:13:16.000 He was the establishment.

01:13:17.000 There's no doubt about that.

01:13:18.000 But Donald Trump still isn't.

01:13:19.000 You know why?

01:13:20.000 Barack Obama had the media in his back pocket.

01:13:22.000 Barack Obama had the entertainment industry's back pocket. 1.00

01:13:24.000 Look at Bruce Springsteen performing the private banquet for Obama and Bono sitting there mocking George W. Bush when he was coming in with Barack Obama, the cool kids table who consistently mock Donald Trump and tell all of you that you're stupid and racist for voting for him. 0.99

01:13:38.000 It's not the same thing. 0.99

01:13:40.000 The establishment is not the guy in the White House.

01:13:42.000 The man, so to speak, are the people who control information.

01:13:46.000 And right now, for a limited time only, that's still traditional media and the entertainment industry, but that's going away pretty quickly.

01:13:52.000 Join the Mug Club if you want to support that. 0.99

01:13:54.000 That's where people like us are able to equalize that playing field.

01:13:57.000 So it's important to know they are not the party of opposition, and they know that, and so they lie.

01:14:01.000 And they say, well, we need to be brave and stand up against Donald Trump.

01:14:05.000 You need to be brave?

01:14:06.000 You're the same people who are mocking his campaign manager for a bad stand-up set in the early 90s?

01:14:11.000 You need to be brave you're mocking his child?

01:14:13.000 You need to be brave you're mocking what he likes to eat?

01:14:16.000 It has been nothing but a doggy pile on the Trumps.

01:14:20.000 They are not brave.

01:14:22.000 This is not some modern civil rights movement.

01:14:24.000 And...

01:14:25.000 You don't need to buy it.

01:14:27.000 So if there's anything to take away, if someone continually repeats something, and you see this in the media, at any point, immediately question it.

01:14:36.000 Immediately, if your friends do it, if your friend consistently says, you know what, bro, I can bench you 400 pounds.

01:14:41.000 You know, I was squatting 500 pounds for eight reps.

01:14:44.000 Immediately go, you know what, I think you're lying.

01:14:46.000 If you have to bet your life, bet it on them lying.

01:14:49.000 Because generally, someone who can actually accomplish what they're claiming they can accomplish doesn't need to claim it.

01:14:54.000 So if the media was really being brave, it would be recognized.

01:14:57.000 Right?

01:14:57.000 If this were the biggest civil rights march of all time in modern American history, it would be recognized.

01:15:02.000 We wouldn't know it. 0.93

01:15:03.000 A few vagina hats and a crazy Ashley Judd tirade does not a modern civil rights movement make. 1.00

01:15:08.000 So don't be fooled. 0.97

01:15:09.000 You don't have to buy it.

01:15:10.000 If you hear them repeating it, it's likely a lie.

01:15:14.000 See you next week.

01:15:15.000 I love you.

Louder with Crowder - January 27, 2017

#114 MEDIA HATES THE TRUMP! Tim Kennedy + Ann McElhinney | Louder With Crowder

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